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I think really it serves to highlight the specific issues involved. But were all of the above classifications true, you would be a woman, and you would have been raised as such. But yes, I agree with you.. Plus, "imagine you were a woman" doesn't really cover it in such detail. I'm sure all of our minds jump to things other than biological clocks when asked about what you would do were you the opposite sex. Moreover, usually these questions come with a qualification like "for a day" or "for a we…
/r/MensRights14/02/11 04:38 PM
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What last experiment?
/r/MensRights13/02/11 02:23 PM
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How is this thought experiment anything more than "Men, imagine you were a woman?"... I'm not criticising it as such, I'm just wondering in what way it would be different.
/r/MensRights12/02/11 06:22 PM
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Sorry, this wasn't a dig at you. Again, great premise, just poorly argued.
/r/MensRights28/01/11 11:35 AM
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This article and your post BOTH lower themselves to the "us and them" mentality. It generalises based not on evidence seen objectively, but subjectively, in that it takes the writer's personal experience and applies it to ALL women. It doesn't say women are capable of being brutal, for instance, it says women are brutal. Yes, I did acknowledge that this man made good points but he made them badly. If he wanted to write about his experiences, he should have written about his experiences, instead …
/r/MensRights28/01/11 03:57 AM
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Oh! I'm sorry I thought the 'Great job, dude' was directed at me. I should learn to read, really.
/r/MensRights28/01/11 03:50 AM
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May I just finally say that in looking for more information about the Mail's stance on these kind of issues, I didn't have to look long before I found this very recent (December) picture of the front page. Ignore the very-British-indeed weather complaint, and draw your eyes upward, to the picture of the shoes (the shoes aahhh), and the not-at-all-sexist comment beside it: http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/m15862024.jpg Make up your fucking mind, Mail.
/r/MensRights27/01/11 09:37 PM
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Okay I am sorry. :P To be fair, when I posted it, the entire thread was only full of positive things to say about the article and I thought I'd resign myself to languishing at the bottom of the page forever.
/r/MensRights27/01/11 09:30 PM
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The Daily Mail is a right wing (although I know this means different things in different contexts) tabloid newspaper. My impression of it is that it massively sensationalises headlines to the point of being borderline inaccurate, its evidence is questionable, it is very anti-immigration (and will use the word "immigrant" as if it is a synonym for "those foreign bloody bastards"), and not even for what I would call "logical reasons" (ie, overcrowding or economic reasons) but instead in some kind …
/r/MensRights27/01/11 09:28 PM
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The content or the article is more important than the name of the publication. Yes, you are absolutely right. If this article had been an articulate and intelligent look at the under-representation of sexism against men in media coverage and public opinion, I would have treated it as such, no matter the publication. I may even have commented that it wasn't the Daily Mail's usual fare and that I was impressed that they had published it, my prejudices confounded. Unfortunately this article happens…
/r/MensRights27/01/11 09:06 PM
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Yes, the premise is sound, I agree with his main point, funnily enough, but I am also so disappointed in how he got there and in his argument, which IS bollocks. I also just have a "this is bollocks" alarm that goes off in my head whenever I see "dailymail.co.uk" between parentheses on reddit.
/r/MensRights27/01/11 08:49 PM
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My point is that this guy doesn't help the case when he includes sexism in his argument. Comparing it to racism, for instance, it would be like someone saying "Why is it okay for black people to be racist to white people when you can see clearly that black people suck?". It loses credibility, and he loses credibility when he is making this point. Which yes, you should care about. I agree with his point but he made it in a stupid way. edit: I got the wrong end of the stick here. Sorry :(
/r/MensRights27/01/11 08:31 PM
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This is a good point when applied with evidence and when it is relevant. For instance making a statement such as "On average, men have a higher conviction rate for violent crime than women" is stating a fact (one that I just made up and am assuming for the purposes of this argument is true). That is not to say it cannot be then used out of context, or twisted to make it seem that it would apply to all men, or that no women are violent. To derive the comment "All men are more violent than all wom…
/r/MensRights27/01/11 08:26 PM
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I promise you, I am not a feminist, just very VERY anti-Daily Mail. Of course I don't hate men. I do very much hope there IS real equality soon, and I hope that when the sexism disappears, badly-thought-out-hypocritical-circular-reasoning-riddled-arguments like those employed in this article (and bear in mind, it is just this article we're talking about here, not the whole men's rights movement, which I am a supporter of myself) go with it. I'm just saying you can't banter around this kind of no…
/r/MensRights27/01/11 08:06 PM
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Actually, I'm going one further and I'm going to say that this article is a pile of bollocks, and, ironically, probably the most sexist thing I've read in a long time. He spends one breath right at the start calling the sky sports presenters (who have been forced to resign over some sexist remarks) "old duffers", presumably to cover his arse when everyone realises he's just as bad, then he establishes that he is a "gentleman" so we're all on his side, and then he goes on for the next 30-odd para…
/r/MensRights27/01/11 07:34 PM
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This had the potential to be an interesting and well argued topic but, as is to be expected from the Daily Mail, it's full of questionable evidence, outright generalisations, stereotypes (of women AND men), hypocrisy and general ignorance. I can agree with parts of it, and with the title and premise, but SURELY there's a better article out there than one published in the Daily Fucking Mail. And brrriiiing on the downvotes.
/r/MensRights27/01/11 07:13 PM
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