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Yes, red pillers love to point of the exception of picking up a drunk girl at a club without talking to her Hey you gave me a shout out lol. Generally, all you'll get out of that is a hookup with a bottom-tier women She wasn't bottom teir she was actually decent looking and was going to law school too. Plenty of decent quality women can hoe around from time to time. Anyway, do social skills matter? Absolutely. But are they more important than looks? Fuck no. If they were then a guy with 3/10 loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:58 PM
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I don't know enough about Elliot Rodger to comment much further, but I don't think it's fair to treat him as if he is representative of the average incel, he clearly had extreme mental issues and delusions which would've contributed heavily to his actions. Size =/= danger level to humans. All else considered equal, size will increase danger level. Take two people who are biologically identical in every single way except that one is 6'5 250lbs and the other is 5ft 100lbs, the bigger person will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:31 PM
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A shooter kills who they have access to kill. They get plenty of targets they didn't plan on killing. Quick google search shows that most of the dudes he killed were his own roommates who he stabbed to death. So it wasn't a case of him just indiscriminately killing everybody in sight and they just happened to be mostly men, he actively targeted them. as it implies there is something inherently less safe about male humans, something that can not be taught out. No shit men are inherently less safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:05 PM
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I forgot about Elliot Rodger, although according to google he killed twice as many men as he did women and it wasn't a school shooting either. In fact, the few times women have ever serial killed, it was usually related to stealing money or psychotic breaks against their own kids Are you trying to imply that a woman murdering her own fking children isn't as bad? Anyway it's undeniable that men commit these atrocities more, I think it's partially due to higher testosterone but mostly because wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:12 PM
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You’re in for a surprise That link never said the majority of men who pay for sex are in relationships, just "many" which almost couldn't be more vague. Many could be just 10%. That article proves nothing. It's also 12 years old which makes it even less valid. Someone not being a role model doesn’t make them worthy of stigma and scorn. Should drug addicts not be stigmatised then? Even if they're only hurting themselves? There's a difference between just not being a role model, and being a revers…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:41 PM
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Then why is it primarily men who shoot up schools over not getting a girlfriend I feel like that primarily happens due to bullying rather than not getting a girlfriend, I know the columbine shooters had prom dates atleast. Who has shot up a school citing their reason as not being able to get a gf? a man who doesn't get women is a failure of a person in general. Men who can't get laid are generally looked down upon strongly by both men and women. In the same vein, if it was women who were entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:26 PM
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Contrary to popular beliefs, sex buyers are overwhelmingly not incels, half of them are married or partnered. I find that hard to believe, why would a man pay for sex unless he is unable to attract a woman normally? It's obviously far cheaper and it's also way more fulfilling and enjoyable to bang someone who is actually attracted to you. I have no doubts that there are partnered men who pay for sex too, I just don't think they would be the majority by any means. First you spoke about the people…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:55 AM
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You seriously don't understand why getting fucked by incels for a living is stigmatised and not respected on the same level as other professions ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:43 PM
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As they should be
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:08 PM
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<image> Whatever helps u sleep at night buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:13 AM
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Imagine having nearly 100k karma on fucking reddit and having the audacity to call somebody a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:01 AM
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The guys I’ve seen getting the laid the most after parties or in the hookup scene were guys who were born as 5/6 in looks. Who looks-maxxed A looksmaxed 5 or 6 would basically be a 7 or 8 though lol so they're still top teir in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:13 AM
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Yep I agree with you except for "average looks", I think it is generally a lot higher than that, especially for hookups, also a lot of women have 6ft preferences which is above average obviously. But yeah back to my original point from my first comment, I do think looks are way more important than personality or really any other factor besides status. Not that personality doesn't matter because of course it matters, it just doesn't matter on the same scale- ugly guy, great personality will do te…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:24 PM
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I don't really know in your case, but I don't think that those are common occurrences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:17 PM
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Bruh I've gotten laid from the club without opening my mouth once until I got in the taxi home with the girl. Personality means shit compared to looks and status, especially when it comes to casual sex. When it comes to LTRs, looks serve as a threshold that once you meet, your personality takes over. But even then it's still looks that come first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:47 PM
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I don't really see your point, whether you found them hot instantly or it took a bit of time for the attraction to kick in, you're still attracted to their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:54 AM
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Do you think this happens to anyone with any regularity? Genuinely? Well if they are unattractive enough then yes, go on the ugly subreddit and read some of their stories. That's completely besides the point though, my point was that everybody cares what people in their vicinity and larger society think of them to some extent, even if they pretend not to. People even more successful would be even less likely to date 20 year olds This is just so untrue. Whenever you see some super rich guy with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:09 AM
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Do you think this hypothetical woman cares about what 99% of men she wants nothing to do with think of her? Absolutely, everybody cares what other people think of them, it's another massive coping mechanism to pretend not to care what anyone thinks. If every time this woman stepped outside, she overheard people saying stuff like 'ew look how ugly she is' it would definitely have an effect on her self esteem. This is genuinely funny. Early 20s me dated bartenders, baristas, early career folks. 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:38 AM
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"be attractive, be rich, have status" then women will like you Do you disagree with this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:02 AM
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Nice coping mechanism, it's nowhere near as subjective as you seem to be suggesting. I never said you're worthless, I just said your smv is lower now than it was when you were younger. It's not you who gets to decide how attractive you are, it's the market, and 99% of men are going to find a woman hotter when she is 22 year old than at 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:56 AM
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pathetic 32 virgin male with 0 relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:11 AM
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Surely you can agree that it absolutely pales in comparison to looks though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:04 AM
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Surely you can agree that it absolutely pales in comparison to looks though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:03 AM
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It's just a reddit thing, the only people in my life I've ever seen claim looks don't matter and it's all personality are bluepillers on reddit. Seriously, idk how long you've been on this site for, it's definitely getting better nowadays, but wind the clocks back to 2016-19~ and whenever somebody would say they struggle attracting people, they would get flooded with replies with thousands of upvotes saying looks don't matter to women, it's just your personality, have you tried taking a shower e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:40 AM
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Being desired for your looks is the only true form of attraction, everything else is a proxy to get something from somebody (ie money, company, status, entertainment etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:48 AM
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Damn this reddit account is 10 years old today
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:31 PM
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Even if you personally don't like it, having muscle does generally help guys with being more attractive, tinder experiments have shown this. Not a bodybuilder physique but a ripped athletic body with a little bit of size, pairs well with some facial hair and a tan. That said I agree that muscle is definitely less important than face and height, I think that's basically undeniable at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:30 PM
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If your smv was an 8 when you were younger and then reduced to a 5 with age, it's not just the quantity of men who would date you that reduces, it's also the quality. This should be fairly obvious. Just because the quality of men you date nowadays is higher doesn't mean you didn't have the potential to date even higher quality men when you were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:55 AM
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Not something to be proud of but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:33 AM
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For example, you can be kind, hard working, empathetic, and have healthy emotions without being a dormat that lets women walk all over you. You can also be all those things and be attractive to women, and be considered a high-value man in the SMV/RMV sense. Red pill just can't acknowledge that reality. Where does redpill claim you can't be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:53 AM
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If you make advances and they're not wanted, so you say have a nice day and leave > no issue If fkn only this was true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:29 AM
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A smooth, confident, average looking guy will do far better than a creepy good looking guy. Hell no, although I guess it would really come down to how we're defining looks though. Yeah that's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:22 AM
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Yeah I agree 100%, my point is that it's not just some fringe group of retards who have those standards about whether someone is a creep or not, it's arguably the majority, atleast in the bars/clubs I frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:31 AM
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I'm not, I think it's fucked up that people think that, but in my life I've seen enough shit to know that a person's level of looks will have an equal or larger bearing on whether they are considered a creep or not than their literal behaviour, especially in men. I see chad type dudes at the club/bar slap random girls asses all the fkn time and the girls are almost never upset about it, then minutes later I'll see some random unattractive dude minding his own business and girls will act like he'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:16 AM
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A person's level of attractiveness has literally nothing to do with whether they're creepy or not. Couldn't be further from the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:10 AM
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Well looks like we have different life experiences because like I said I see that kind of thing happen often and I've rarely seen a girl get upset about it. These are good looking guys I'm talking about though, as in model teir or atleast borderline.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:57 PM
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Maybe to you but I see chad dudes pull that kind of shit in the club/bar very often and the girls don't have a problem with it. I'm not trying to say it should be ok to slap a stranger's ass fyi, I'm just saying that (hot take) whether you're considered a creep or not is more to do with physical appearance than behaviour, in extreme situations this isn't the case but generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:52 PM
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All the biggest slayers I know irl have beliefs that align with the redpill. Hell, listen to nearly any popular rapper from the last 30 years, the majority of them have clear redpill beliefs in their lyrics. It's a complete coping mechanism from bluepillers to act like everyone who has redpill beliefs is a complete loser who can't get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:11 PM
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Status matters more than money
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:48 PM
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And if by chad you mean the stereotypical musclebro who just wants sex I think I will pass on chad. Chad just means a man who is top teir in physical appearance, nothing to do with the kind of person they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:14 AM
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If you have all of those traits, it's basically impossible to struggle with dating. Find me an example of a dude who has all of those things who can't get laid and I'll cashapp you $50 rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:33 AM
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Good luck dude lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:30 AM
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Pre sure it's just a troll account although on this sub you can never really know for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:21 AM
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It’s just nuanced personal preferences when you get to a certain level of attractiveness. Yeah fair I do agree with that, once you reach a certain level of looks then it does basically just boil down to taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:38 PM
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I don't entirely disagree with you but I don't think it's nearly as subjective as you're trying to make out. I think a lot of people, typically men, will rate the women they see as attainable as higher than they realistically should be. Less attractive dudes will rate a 6/10 girl as higher than a girl who is 8/10, not because he thinks she has objectively better features, but because he sees her as more attainable. An experiment has been done where they showed numerous babies pictures of differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:44 PM
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lived experiences Lmao if it was your lived experience then you wouldn't be typing on reddit would you. But yeah it is a waste of time trying to argue with the man haters on this sub I agree, very difficult to rationalise somebody out of a purely emotional position that they didn't rationalise themselves into.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:30 PM
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"flaws" that all adult women have. all adult women have. all Last I checked 18+ is an adult. Even if you think that's still a kid, 25 is undeniably an adult and a lot of the girls I'm talking about were around that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:22 PM
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Never said women weren't at more risk of violence, I just said it's such a statistically unlikely thing to happen that it makes 0 sense to use those stats as a justification of prejudice towards all men. For every one man who murders a woman, there are literally thousands who would give their own life to protect a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:17 PM
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Late teens, early to mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:07 PM
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It's not nonsensical, it's just harsh, and tbf not particularly practical for day to day people. But I do think that it is fairly accurate. Only 15% of men are 6ft tall or greater. I think only 5% are 6'2 or taller. Combine that with a handsome face, and that's already only 1-2% of the population. Combine that with high status and a good physique and that's getting beyond 0.1%. A TRUE 8/10 rating is top teir and very few people are anywhere near it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:06 PM
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Yes ofc, plenty of girls I've dated/hooked up with. Also I swim laps and see plenty of girls who go to my pool who are pretty without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:46 PM
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People don't get famous for just existing though, people get famous for what they do- for example being a pro actor, athlete, musician. Those are all forms of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:42 PM
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Also when people are younger their necks/faces don’t necessarily reveal being overweight. I disagree, I can pretty easily gauge how fat somebody is by looking at their face. There are exceptions, people hold fat differently, but you're (very) rarely going to find a fat person with hollow cheeks and a defined jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:41 PM
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Mostly men, but that is completely irrelevant, you still have a 1 in a million chance of getting murdered by a tinder date, and you are still 100x more likely to die from the things I listed than getting murdered by a man. Also both men and women still have a 99.999% chance of NOT being a murderer, when you get to those kind of minuscule numbers the difference is, for all intents and purposes irl, completely negligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:37 PM
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7 homicides per 100k people in America. 80% of homicide victims are men, so per 100k people 1.4 women are murdered. This would be skewed by dangerous areas, so (assuming you don't live somewhere dangerous) you have less than 1 out of 100k chance of being murdered full stop. The chance that a random dude who you are meeting for a date ends up being a man who murders you is *maybe* 1 in a million. There are probably hundreds of things you do every single day that have a FAR higher chance in your d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:27 PM
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Even in loose fitting clothing you can tell if somebody is in shape or not by looking at their face, arms etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:08 PM
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It seems to me that 95% of the women on this sub have never heard the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:05 PM
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Don't listen to the chumps saying that they like "natural" beauty. Such a thing doesn't exist ???? There are plenty of women who are beautiful without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:01 PM
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Go to the club when there is anyone remotely famous there and see the way they get treated by women. Status means a LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:08 PM
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It serves more as a guideline than a definitive evaluation. Your rating does come at the end of the day from your treatment I agree, but its unlikely that some 6'4, ripped, Henry Cavill lookalike is going to struggle with women, so there are traits you can look for to make a decent estimate of your smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:04 PM
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It's a bell curve distribution imo, 5 is average, every number above or below that should account for 1 standard deviation of difference. So 6 is top 15%˜, 7 is top 2.5%˜, 8 is top 0.1%˜ etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:57 PM
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Technically yeah but I wouldn't consider them remotely unrealistic or delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:26 PM
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don't be a bitch is a sexist and ignorant standard PPD woman moment either have big tits or big ass This is basically the same as a woman having a height standard. If a woman wants a taller guy is she sexist and ignorant too? and absolutely no single moms Seems reasonable to me, who tf wants to raise another man's kids ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:41 PM
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Those aren't high standards imo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:38 PM
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If women truly preferred no sex over mediocre/bad sex, then most women would be celibate as according to the women here, most guys suck in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:52 PM
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As a dude who went from getting next to no sex, to sex with women I wasn't attracted to, to finally being able to bang attractive women (started out as obese and balding, my options slowly Increased in quality and quantity over time as I got in shape and got a hair transplant) I just could not disagree more. Bad sex isn't ideal by any means but no sex is a fucking curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:29 PM
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In reality, anyone on a relationship they didn’t want is going to be unhappy. I don’t see how this can be argued any other way. Good sex >>> bad sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:24 PM
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Idk where you're from but where I live you can just hop on welfare- a job isn't required by any means to live, it just drastically reduces your quality of life if you don’t have one, as does not getting any action. Also in that second paragraph you're implying that settling for a guy who doesn't reach a womans initial standards, ie. A man who is 5'10 instead of 6ft would be 'unhealthy and stressful', which is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:06 PM
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Would you say the same about standards in the job market? As in refusing to settle for any job that doesn't pay X amount despite not having adequate qualifications? You can fantasise about whatever standards you want, but unless you bring atleast an equal amount to the table yourself, it IS unreasonable to have certain standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:57 PM
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Those are all fair standards
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:11 PM
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Status? Status is a mirage, an illusion. There 100s of idiots buying status symbol clothes trying to break into higher status. It comes more from social approval than of self-approval. Who tf is saying status comes from having nice clothes? Power? Power is given to those who deserve it. LOL. Money? You don't need as much money as you think. It depends on what you want out of life, but generally speaking I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:59 AM
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Looks* and looks*
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:54 AM
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A lack of neuroticism is no way near as important as looks. Important, sure, but not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:53 AM
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I like tate for the most part but he's not a particularly good looking dude, he himself admits this, so he's not a chad. To be a chad you need to have a good looking face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:50 AM
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if anything, autism tends to hurt women more Surely you don't genuinely believe this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:41 AM
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A tree but I'd rather be emotionally venerable with a tree than a man too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:23 PM
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Tree pill
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:22 PM
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yeah if all you know about sexual relationships comes from tv because you have absolutely no experience with women liking you, I’m sure it seems very different. Wrong I'm in a LTR but was hooking up with new women every week from the bar/club when I was younger I wish I didn’t know so many great women with potential who tie themselves to factory workers with shitty tattoos, a criminal record or a Joe Dirt mullet Yeah because they're alpha fucks, they don't need to be good providers to get with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:10 PM
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Alpha fucks just means a good looking dude who women will fuck without needing commitment. A beta bux is a man who isn't attractive enough to fuck without commitment but may be able to get a relationship if he is a good provider. These are 100% real concepts. You may not like the terminology of alpha/beta but that doesn't all of a sudden mean they aren't real things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:26 PM
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I see 0 explanation as to how they're not real but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:03 PM
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Yep this is the perfect comment and rebuttal to this post. Looks are #1 by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:55 AM
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If you have it you’re hot no matter what and if you don’t you’re ugly no matter what. This is false
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:32 AM
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How are they not real
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:39 AM
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I disagree that he would be considered a chad, especially at his height and build. I agree that his looks/status were probably enough to get laid with though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:09 PM
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This post is about a lack of looks, money and status resulting in getting rejected. You made a point that a guy who had those traits approached you but ruined it through being awkward af. My point is that he would still do fine in the right places (online and nightclubs) and he could have had the best approach in the world but if he didn't reach your looks/money/status thresholds then it wouldn't mean anything- he would still get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:19 PM
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there was nothing wrong with his personality, he was very mentally ill. there was nothing wrong with his personality, he was very mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:12 PM
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Not every comment made by women needs to be turned into a conversation about ugly men not being able to get girlfriends. Sure but that's literally what this post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:06 PM
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Elliot Rodgers wasn't good looking he was average at BEST and he was 5'6 or 5'7 and scrawny as fk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:17 PM
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Actually no... https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcT3t1mqTIuVxqdC5rA5q_IoQSI1fZOuFemGoKie3xiKrA3A2-tAe7F7M&s=10 Weird ass comment btw. Not really Let’s not imagine strangers fucking next time mmmkay? Get mental help
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:03 PM
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They are though as long as the man is physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:48 PM
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Imo money and status mean very little until you get to top (multi-millionaire or a local celebrity+), looks always come first. He may have been more masculine than you but that doesn't necessarily mean he was better looking than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:47 PM
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I am 6' tall, and am fairly attractive, if that helps make the story more believable for you. That just makes the whole message of your post irrelevant though. If you were tall and good-looking of course she picked you. Do you seriously think it would've gone down like that if you were 5'4 and ugly but had the same personality ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:31 PM
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Bruh surely this is a troll post, you just admitted that you got in a relationship with him regardless of his shitty personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:39 PM
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And yet he still hit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:34 PM
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If the dude is as good looking as you say then he is selling himself short of his potential with his social skills but he could still do fairly well in environments where social skills aren't as important eg. Online, at the club on the dfloor etc. The important point is that he could've had the best approach in the world, but if he was short and ugly you still would've rejected him (even if you were single) so an adequate amount of looks, money, status are still a requirement and a prerequisite …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:02 PM
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That's the one I recall him saying it in but maybe not, it was around that same time though. He said something along the lines of 'I fucked 2 new girls every single day'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:48 PM
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This has gotta be bait
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:32 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zFWAiLZEmyU somewhere in this vid if I recall. Apologies for Kenny ko it's the only version I could find.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:24 PM
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Connor Murphy still got a hell of a lot of pussy in his prime though, he has also stated this if I remember correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:52 PM
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None of those factors are more important than being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:28 AM
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chads are men who are average looking or above average looking 8/10 bait
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:31 AM
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I’ll never understand why certain guys refuse to believe that these things are every bit as important as looks Because personality simply isn't nearly as important as looks. Not saying it doesn't matter because it does, but it's not in the same league. Good personality without good looks = friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:14 AM
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I don't think it would exactly raise her social status, but usually she would get a lot of support from her immediate social circle as well as wider society, so her social treatment would become more positive, which is similar imo. But I do think a man's social status would definitely drop due to being seen as weak. That video is relevant because you saw people stepping in to help the woman immediately when she was the victim, verses when the man was the victim not only did nobody step in, peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:52 PM
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You misread what he said, he said that a woman throwing out abuse accusations will raise her social status, wheras a man doing the same will lower his social status. He didn't say a woman being abusive will raise her social status, although even then it probably would among some feminist circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:40 PM
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How? This vid comes to mind https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVHnZX8E50
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:27 PM
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Not currently although he likely will be in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:00 PM
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Nowadays not often as I quit drinking so I rarely go to bars or clubs but back when I was going out twice a week I would pull (as in take someone home with me) about once a fortnight. Not all the girls I got with were 6s tbf but most were in that range.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:07 PM
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I'd rate myself about a 7 and I've pulled 6s plenty of times before from the club. There's no way I'm a 9 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:03 PM
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Yeah fair enough I understand what you mean, that's just a ripped physique with a small layer of bodyfat on top
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:01 PM
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I would hardly say Adam driver has a doughy physique. It's just the lighting in that pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:44 PM
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A man with a 7/10 smv can only fuck 4s?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:12 PM
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there is nothing person A can do to change that (including looksmaxxing etc) Not necessarily true, going from obese to jacked and lean and then getting a hair transplant made a huge difference for me, including attracting women who previously found me unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:56 PM
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It's easily the most important component
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:59 AM
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Some truth to what you're saying although I do think plenty of women just flat out won't approach men, even ones they're attracted to, but they will usually give an indicator of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:15 AM
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Donald trump is married ... ... No way, a 6'3 billionaire managed to find a wife. Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:08 AM
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Well tbf the bluepill isnt the root cause, its just a useless set of platitudes which won't really help nor hurt anybody besides wasting their time. The failures and deficiencies you speak of are simply a subpar amount of looks, money, status and/or charisma needed to attract the women they want to attract. Redpill tells you to max out those areas as much as you can, bluepill makes it out as if how attractive you are comes from how nice and respectful to women you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:13 AM
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Following bluepilled advice is what gets them to that point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:32 AM
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It's pretty normal to search online for things you want advice or information on. I don't understand your point at all tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:25 AM
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Sure but thats besides the point. You said This basically requires admitting to other men that you're a failure at something. So they'd rather go to women who will play nice and coddle them than ask other men who may be brutally honest but help them actually get somewhere. When the whole point of the redpill is brutally honest truths as apposed to feel-good platitudes you get from the bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:14 AM
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The red pill is literally men giving other men advice on dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:14 AM
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Bot account
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:31 PM
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Tate is based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:38 PM
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Granted my experience is mostly from clubs/bars/parties but I do think the overwhelming majority of people care about looks first and everything else second. I don't think conventially unattractive people with no money can't get in relationships but I do think it will be hard for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:51 PM
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There are exceptions but it is very unusual in my observations for a woman to be with a man she's not attracted to physically unless he brings money/status to the table or she doesn't have any better options and is settling. This is especially true in short term relationships ie. hookups, which is what I was mostly referring to, but it still rings true in LTRs. Attractive women have options, and that includes men that are both physically attractive and also good as a person, why would they settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:30 PM
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but generally personality is enough I am shocked people genuinely believe this, in what world are women choosing to hook up with ugly guys with 'personality' when they could get somebody they are actually attracted to. Betabux doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:27 PM
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Those younger women who do like older men aren’t going for 33 year old, short, balding, low income mentally ill losers. Where does the red pill claim that those are the traits women look for in men? Redpill constantly preaches looks, money, status, charisma/game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:07 PM
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Also, can you tell me how do you quote something like you did with the "100% chance of success"? Use one of these '>' (dont include the quotation marks) before whatever you are quoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:50 PM
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100% chance of success This is false
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:19 AM
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I mean yeah fair enough I just re read your post and you never claimed it was purely lean muscle. But point still stands, a few months of training isn't enough to build an impressive physique. Do you even look like you lift when you have clothes on? Are you noticably jacked but also sub 15% bodyfat? Not trying to be a dick here, it's a genuine question, because if you don't have visible muscles then obviously it's not gonna help much. If you don't at all resemble the dudes I posted you can't jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:11 AM
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Yeah I never said you didn't gain 20lbs, I said you didn't gain 20lbs of lean mass. You very easily could've gained 20lbs of muscle+water+fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:00 AM
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Muscles are less important than height and face but they do make a noticeable difference if you actually look impressive. It should be fairly obvious, but a lot of dudes for some reason take the advice as 'go to the gym' and not 'achieve an impressive physique', as if simply going to the gym will make a solid difference regardless of the final result- Post your physique, I guarantee you don't look particularly impressive after a few months, and no way you put on 20lbs of LEAN mass, those are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:35 AM
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It's not just about exposure, being famous would make plenty of women who otherwise wouldn't want you, want to fuck you, simply due to your high level of fame/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:06 AM
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By status he's talking about fame and your position in the social hierarchy, not your job status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:56 AM
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Its impossible to be high status and not completely dominate in terms off women. It beats looks, money, and status by a mile. It beats looks, money, and status by a mile. and status Status is more important than status
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:50 AM
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5'10 Above average height, global male average is 5'7 Slightly balding Doesn't matter that much if it's only NW1 or less Nice face This is one of the most important attributes for attracting women Good body Also pretty rare for a man to have a good body, something like 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese, and the remaining third who aren't don't necessarily have much muscle. Having a good body is far from average. With those stats you would be in the upper range of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:30 AM
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Don't come to a debate sub if you don't want to debate people lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:57 AM
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Nope, again you're using 3rd grader teir logic. Had I said 'I've approached women before successfully therefore all women like being approached' then you would be right that I'm doing the same as you, but I didn't say that at all, I just shared my experience to prove that there are plenty of women who do like being approached- as many women love to say on this sub, women aren't a monolith. Some will like it, some won't. But it does mostly come down to looks at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:53 AM
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I swear 90% of the reasoning of women on this subreddit boils down to 'I don't do/like that therefore no woman does'. Literal 3rd grader teir logic. I've successfully cold approached many, many times at the bar and so have a lot of my attractive friends. I used to be significantly less attractive due to weight and hairline issues that I both solved, and cold approaching back then was very rarely successful, so it mostly is just down to looks. Will you get a 100% success rate if you're hot? No, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:58 AM
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Whether it's appreciated or considered harassment is entirely down to your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:52 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jtbUqJiIDG0
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:36 AM
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blue pill man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:31 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:55 PM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:50 PM
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Technically you are correct but I think it's important to distinguish between them as personality is just a vague all encompassing term, telling somebody they need to work on their personality could be interpreted in many different ways and is quite subjective, wheras telling somebody to work on their charisma is much more specific and can be gauged more objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:39 AM
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Charisma is your ability to charm others with your words and mannerisms. Personality is your interests, your values, your beliefs etc. There is overlap but no they're not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:29 AM
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Well it teaches that they care about looks, money, status and charisma, which is just observably correct. Personality does matter too, but it's secondary to those characteristics- no amount of personality will make an ugly, broke, uncharismatic loser do well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:38 AM
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'That company I went for an interview with didn't hire me because they were just scared I would make everybody there look bad'
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:45 PM
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They may not actually realise that they dress badly, style needs to be learned to an extent They may not actually be aware of the massive importance of physical appearance, sure everybody knows it matters to some extent but they might just think it's only the cherry on top of everything else when in reality, it's the cake itself, atleast in sex/dating They may be at a stage in their life where they just don't care anymore- typically younger people are far more stylish than middle aged+ people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:26 AM
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It's true though, literally ask anyone who has gone from unattractive to attractive the difference in the way they were treated. Looks are absolutely vital in this world socially and romantically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:03 AM
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How is it insulting though? Even if a woman is not interested in it, why be insulted? Some people like to hook up, some don't, it's dumb to get mad over something like that. Do you think the guys you hooked up with should be insulted that you didn't take things further?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:48 PM
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bc with most men at the bar we assume he's likely only interested in sex (which is insulting enough) I've hooked up with girls from the bar plenty of times for just a ONS, how is it insulting if a guy only wants sex? In my experience plenty of women do too. You find each other attractive and want to have a good time together, its not anything too serious. I find it so confusing when I see bluepillers say this kind of stuff on here because it doesn't reflect my irl experience at all, basically al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:26 PM
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A huge part of a man's value and self worth, arguably the biggest part, comes from his romantic/sexual success. Technically he doesn't need to sleep with a lot of women, it could just be one specific girl such as a girlfriend or wife. But if a man never gets laid, yeah his self esteem is going to be next to non existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:08 PM
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No guy with a really low body count is going to be truly confident in himself trust me. He could fake confidence but it's not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:50 PM
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Hell, I don't even know anyone that makes 100,000 a year. Do you? Yeah plenty, that’s not a particulary rare income. I'm not from the US but I assume you are, 18% of Americans make 100k or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:05 PM
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That's what happens when you pin T
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:27 PM
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dont be a douche This can be disregarded completely, but yes you're otherwise right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:01 AM
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Tall and handsome* Not that having a good physique won't help, it's just not quite as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:59 AM
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This is technically true but it doesn't make any significant difference if he is legitimately good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:40 AM
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By God please tell me you are just trolling, wtaf did I just read
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:27 AM
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By God please tell me you are just trolling, wtaf did I just read
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:27 AM
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By God please tell me you are just trolling, wtaf did I just read
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:27 AM
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Perfect comment, these are my thoughts exactly and I had a very similar experience to you in terms of going from undesirable to attractive, so I know the whole 'looks are just subjective' bs that bluepillers spout is exactly that, BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:57 AM
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Blue pill man ??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:51 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:32 AM
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Correct, but the assholery needs to be backed by a level of physical competence and masculinity. And yes good looks as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:47 AM
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True but good looking asshole does better than good looking nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:26 AM
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Now that women have the freedom to pursue what they want in life everyone is seeing women’s real level of interest in relationships, sex and child rearing; which is incredibly low. "Among those 18 to 29 years of age, 63% of men versus 34% of women considered themselves single. This dropped to 25% of men and 17% of women for those 30 to 49 years of age." Source
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 01:32 AM
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By God I wish more women were like you, this is 100% not what my experience with women has been when it comes to fights and avoiding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:11 PM
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If you’re fit and have a nice place and a 5 average face and average height, at least half of single girls you got a chance with. This isn't remotely true. Not saying you'd be fkd when it comes to dating, not at all, but 50% of single women aren't going to be willing to date you based on those stats, maybe 5-10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:55 PM
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Don't disagree, but surely you don't agree with him that any dude is an 8/10 simply for being 6'3, regardless of how ugly, fat, broke and/or autistic they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:31 PM
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And they know better not to waste time proofreading Typos on Reddit comments 🙄 Takes 2 seconds to proof read, also you say this as if simply being on reddit and arguing with strangers isn't a total waste of time in itself. A 6'3 ugly dude is way better than a 5'7 fit dude. You're right in saying that height has the ability to overpower every other attribute a shorter guy has. It's just not a discrete value, it comes on a scale in comparison to how short the other guy is and the other attributes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:49 AM
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Dude, are you uneducated quantidied Generally educated people are taught to proof read. At 6'3, you're better than every guy who's shorter than you This is a retarded thing to say, 6'3 ugly, fat guy isn't more attractive than 6ft, ripped, hot guy. I say this as a guy who is literally 6'3.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:47 AM
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Love that scene
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:05 PM
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Finally, it’s funny how women’s concerns about “safety” diminish in directly correlation to how hot the guy is. Ever notice that? The meek polite short balding guy seems “creepy and dangerous” but the tall, loud and obnoxious square jawed douche is “exciting and confident” Can't wait for the bluepill justification of this bahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:43 PM
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Simply being 6'3 doesn't make you an 8/10 what are you smoking. A hypothetical 10/10 man would be a dude with an impeccably good looking face, 6'5 tall, perfect physique, massive social circle, hugely charismatic, 8" dick and billions in the bank. A below average looking, out of shape, average income bloke who just happens to be 6'3 isn't only a couple of points away from being a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:55 PM
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I used to say the same. Unfortunately I ended up finding the right combination of alcohol and drugs. Lessons were learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:32 PM
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Dude ignore this poster, she's legitimately insane (check her post history).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:29 PM
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A woman like that is extremely rare They may not be the majority but it's not exactly difficult to find a girl who fits that description if you go out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:16 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:50 PM
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Yeah agreed, only place I see this being considered conterversial is on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:57 AM
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Haha true story
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:45 AM
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My personal experience with what the majority of women I've had sex with have said to me says otherwise. I also often overhear casual conversations from groups of women discussing it and they definitely care. Also the fact that women constantly shame men for dick size and use terms like 'small dick energy' says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:23 PM
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Big dick doesn't help with getting women (unless word gets out that you're hung, then it might help a little), but it does help a lot with keeping them. End of the day it's not the most important attribute but to say it doesn't matter is just a coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:59 AM
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I discovered the red pill as a 17 year old virgin. By 22 I had well lost count of my bodycount. Take the good bits, leave the overly toxic shit, and the redpill will help you get laid as long as you have a decent base. When I say the redpill I'm not talking about purely PUA or game bs, I'm talking about dedicated self improvement in looks, money, status and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:49 AM
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nor do most women care about size Debatable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:18 AM
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Dating is a marketplace, some people have greater value in it than others. Same with the job market, some people have greater value in it than others. Doesn't mean they have less inherent human value, it just means they are less desired by other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:06 AM
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<image> The world would be a better place if simping was outlawed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:57 AM
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Simps are the root cause of not all, but many of the major issues in modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:53 AM
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Most women aren’t into that look I did already say in my comment that its maybe 15-25% of women who are, so in other words 75-85% aren't, which is easily most. Even if you think its lower than that still, I disagree, but its definitely greater than 0.5% so my point still stands. In my experience, generally the types of women who are really into that look are women who are into fitness themselves, so it's a win-win. Men like are perceived are vain and narcissistic. By certain groups of people, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:33 AM
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Broadly speaking face is the most important feature for attracting the opposite sex in both men and women imo, my point was that getting an impressive physique (as in very jacked and ripped not just fit with a little bit of muscle) helps you appeal to a certain niche, and can give you an abundance of options as you have far less male competition within said niche due to these types of physiques being rarer than the women who are into them- in other words for every 1 man with a very impressive ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:15 PM
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Agree with this, face is king in terms of being attractive. That said, if you train hard, diet and take steroids to get a physique like this, the percentage of men who look like that (maybe 0.1-0.5% of men) is far lesser than the percentage of women who are really into that look (maybe 15-25% of women), so it gives you a massive upper hand in dating because of simple supply and demand. You still need a decent genetic base for this to be effective, but you don't need to be a male model.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:43 PM
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30% of men say they would rape if they could get away with it <image> Citation heavily needed. The Man Hating Association of America doesn't count fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:42 AM
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Sure but that's not what you said is it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:13 AM
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Ok but you said Having no desire to talk to women is easy to discern And the other dude replied saying how do you discern that, because he doesn't want to talk to you? And you said yes. So you basically implied that you can discern if a man wants to talk to women (plural), based on if he wants to talk to you, a woman (not plural), or not. Which is a bit of a silly extrapolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:48 AM
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Please tell me you're just stirring shit with this reply, it is beyond idiotic to think if a man happens to not want to talk to you then he never wants to talk to any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:15 AM
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Glancing in the general direction of a woman isn't rape fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:14 AM
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There are more young women volunteering there then men. Ok. I literally have no clue what this has to do with what I said. Confidence in one area breeds confidence in the next area. Nope, there is such a thing as situational confidence. You could be very confident in your abilities to play the piano but freak out getting into a boxing ring. Only way as a man to increase your confidence with women is to have positive reinforcement, experience and success. Otherwise you can fake confidence, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:41 AM
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1 day later and still total radio silence from the feminists here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:37 AM
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feminism is BY DEFINITION about equality between the sexes North Korea is BY DEFINITION the 'Democratic People's Republic of Korea' so they must be good, it's literally in the name, they're a democratic Republic!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:33 AM
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Funny how nobody is replying to this, just downvoting because they have no actual counterargument. This is exactly why I'm against feminism. What an ideology claims to be is nowhere near as important as the actions of its followers. Feminist logic: North Korea is known as the 'Democratic People's Republic of Korea', so they must be a good regime, I mean it's in the name, they're a democratic republic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:31 AM
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Working in a homeless shelter breeds confidence It may bring you happiness but confidence with the opposite sex? There are 1000 things I can think of that would help more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:51 AM
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I think Brad Pitt looked like a girl when he was young When he was in his early 20s maybe, he looked pretty masculine late 90s eg here . 0/10 looks ........... I say he rates higher than Brad Pitt. Ok fuck this I'm done with this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:18 AM
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Men see this hierarchy. Women do not. One woman's 9/10 is another woman's 2/10 This is so dumb, no woman is looking at a prime brad pitt as a 2/10. Likewise no woman is looking at a guy like this as a 9/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:51 PM
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unchangeable trait like height Leg lengthening surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:18 PM
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This is just detached from reality Most men don't have female friends Bruh moment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:58 PM
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Are you high dude, the leading cause of death in parterned women is not murder, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:22 AM
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Implying all women are feminists and have the same sense of humour
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:13 AM
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Fuck no, I truly feel for any dude that desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:14 AM
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Finasteride, hair transplant and TRT fixes most of these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:04 AM
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You are only an incel if you call yourself that Wtaf that literally makes 0 sense. If you cannot get laid despite your best attempts, you are involuntarily celibate. Whether you call yourself an incel or not is completely and utterly irrelevant. Stop trying to push your agenda onto others. I'm not an incel nor do I have any agenda to push, I'm just using incredibly basic logic. Some people recently have absolutely butchered the meaning of the word to essentially just describe anybody they disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:14 PM
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Whether someone actually identifies themselves as an incel or not is irrelevant, they are either involuntary celibate or not. Most incels probably don't call themselves incels or associate with the culture. The majority of dudes I know irl who get 0 play are just very unfortunate looking, physically unattractive men, their personality is irrelevant. If somebody is an 'incel' because of their personality, they're not actually an incel are they- it's not 'involuntary' if they have control over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:35 PM
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A lot of far left wing people tend to hate everything attractive, strong, successful etc. Hence eat the rich, toxic masculinity, fat acceptance etc. It's a belief system for losers in denial who hate the insecurity instilled in them by constantly seeing other people in better positions in life, so instead of working hard on themselves to reach a higher standard of living, they want to burn everything down to be on an equally shitty level as themselves. Whenever you see some far leftist reply to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:48 PM
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Pretty much every guy I know personally who slays is right wing, not necessarily openly, but behind closed doors they have atleast some notable conservative beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:36 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right, I like to think the majority of reasonable people would say both are wrong. That said I think the main issue that guys here have, atleast personally speaking, is that extreme feminist BS like that is rarely denounced by the mainstream, hell it's often encouraged, but extreme redpill shit will get you cancelled very quickly. So long as extreme feminism is a thing, there will always be an extreme redpill. Newton's 3rd law type shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:41 PM
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Second, who exactly tell single guys they shouldn’t use porn? You must be new to this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:59 AM
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How is that a great comeback, that's basically just admitting that what guys says about promiscuity and pair bonding is correct- two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:47 AM
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warping their idea of what a normal body looks Normal ≠ ideal This idea that good bodies are 'unrealistic' is probably the only thing I strongly disagree with anti-porn folks on. It seems like some elaborate coping mechanism where people tell themselves that attractive people with great bodies don't actually exist and it's all manufactured by the media etc. Most men know their place, unattractive men know these hot chicks are out of their league, it's just a fantasy, wheras attractive men bang t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:09 AM
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Clubs/bars are v different to approaching someone off the street like the videos show Yeah this is true, I think picking up people off the street is kind of dumb in most scenarios, exceptions exist but as a general rule Plus how often do those interactions end in a relationship rather than a ONS followed by never seeing eachother again? Almost 50/50 for me, or some we atleast became fuckbuddys and saw each other several times afterwards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:14 PM
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Where I live cold approach hookups are pretty damn common among attractive folk at the club and bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:50 PM
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I can't think of a single job that only has hot people doing it. There are plenty of mid models, actors, bartenders, strippers etc etc etc What jobs are you referring to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:35 AM
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If that's true then fair enough I agree with you that people shouldnt date someone well below their league but 90% of the time when I see a woman say that their friend is 'better looking' than their boyfriend it's not true at all, especially when makeup is taken out of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:19 AM
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alas I know many women who are with non-chads and refuse to leave them despite me urging them to. Unless the women you see are top teir themselves, why tf would you urge them to leave somebody in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:56 AM
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Thick, chubby, BBW, etc. are all porn categories that are popular with men These are popular because it's easier for unattractive dudes to self insert themselves into videos with fat women. I'm sure plenty of guys are into thick women but straight up fat, no way it's any significant portion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:20 AM
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Guys who like fat women are fairly common. Bullshit, plenty of guys settle for fat women in a beggars can't be choosers type scenario, that doesn't mean they would actively choose to date obese women if they had better options
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:18 AM
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Damn looks like I hit a nerve. Anyway I was being slightly hyperbolic but it can't be far from the truth considering already 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese and I think its fair to say the average redditor is in worse shape than the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:01 AM
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Well with enough money they could still get women technically, although the relationship probably wouldn't be a very loving one and rely on him spending lots of money on her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:11 PM
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He said some things that are true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:58 PM
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You could in theory improve yourself from a 4 to even above a 7 if you fix multiple big flaws which are holding you back. For example if you're obese, have bad acne and are balding, getting to 12% bodyfat, putting on a bunch of muscle, fixing acne with medications/skincare and getting a hair transplant could take you from a 3-4 to a legit 9 if you have the genetic potential. But if you don't have any serious flaws then I agree that taking care of yourself can only help so much. You can usually t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:52 PM
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If a guy calls himself a 7 but can't attract any 7s, you're right that he's delusional about his smv but that doesn't mean the redpill is wrong about what makes a man desirable to women. The redpill says a man who has looks or physical attributes (handsome, tall, ripped, deep voice, hung, well dressed, athletic), is rich, popular and charismatic is going to be attractive to women, and every one of those traits you take away, the less desirable he will be. You may get the loser/obese women on thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:24 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:32 AM
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Yeah I've always thought it was obvious even when I was a kid, I agree with you that society in general says fitness matters. Honestly I do overall think most of the fundamental redpill beliefs are basically common sense and bluepill ideas are not even the mainstream view at all, they're just the things you would hear from your grandparents or people trying to be polite, otherwise just from people in deep denial. Blue pill in the matrix movie literally just means blissful ignorance, so in terms …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:17 AM
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Being fat goes beyond just appearance, it's a symbol of what type of person you are as well- it shows traits of laziness, lack of discipline, lack of intelligence, lack of impulse control, addiction, deep seeded emotional issues that need the void filled with food etc etc. Fat people are often unable to properly engage in any physical activities, so a lot of shit is off the table if you have an active lifestyle you would like to share with a partner. And although that involves exercise, I'm not …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:08 AM
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I used to always try and think as to why there were a notable number of women like that- people here say its because top teir men will pump and dump them which unjustly raises their ego but I honestly don't think that's true, for mid women probably but true bottom of the barrel teir women? I finally came to the conclusion that it's most likely just pure low IQ, a lack of intelligence and the ability to introspect and use logic. Reminds me of small children, they usually have a delusional amount …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:03 AM
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F
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:14 AM
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Please tell me this is meant to be a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:00 AM
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In theory yes absolutely, in practise probably not because often the traits that result in somebody being broke are negative traits that bleed over into other facets of life. Keyword OFTEN, not always, before I get someone has a rant at me calling me a classist bigot. saw this TikTok where a woman was explaining that males making $50k/year should bow out of the dating pool I actually agree with her for the most part, I just think it's funny that a woman like that has the audacity to make such de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:55 AM
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Your opinion as a woman is negligible to what women in general are like. Even if your social circle is the same, that's still a negligible amount of people compared to the general population and is biased to whatever area you live in. If you lived in Saudi Arabia and I said most women aren't muslim would you reply 'nuh uh, I'm a Muslim, all the women I know are Muslims, that doesn't reflect my experience at all?' Also have you not considered that maybe you choose your circle based on women who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:32 AM
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Tren is a helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:34 PM
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these men would not feel like they are worth more because a gay guy wants to fuck them Nah gay men compliments are where it's at
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:31 PM
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There's a middle ground between a virigin and a woman with a triple digit bodycount, most men don't want the latter but I don't think they'd care if she's been with a few guys before
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:09 PM
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This is such bs hahaha, only time I've ever seen or heard of anything remotely like this is in the movie American Pie
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:59 PM
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If you live in the US I don't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:55 PM
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Stacy (9, 10) >= Chad In terms of pure SMV, Stacy beats Chad pretty easily, in terms of quality of life, I chose the man every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:40 PM
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They may be gym bros but that alone means very little- did they actually look legitimately impressive ie like this, or did they look more like this? Because one has a fk tonne of options, the other doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:21 PM
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Dating is not a market How is it not? I agree with you that it's fucking sad that it is, but plenty of shit in life is sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:56 PM
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Although even that I disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:48 PM
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They may be the most common issues brought up, although even that I disagree with, but nobody in the manosphere thinks that those are the biggest or most severe issues facing men, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:46 PM
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I didn't say slim thick, I just said thick. Plus size literally just means not skinny, that could describe 1000x different body types and proportions. This woman and this woman are both plus size but their bodies don't have any remote resemblance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:42 PM
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you get a market where the one side thinks the other is living in a paradise of endless sex, while they do not desire endless casual sex partners at all Idk why people always say this, maybe it's just my circle and the types of women who go to the places I hang out, but it seems like the majority of women I see are more than happy to have casual sex with good looking men, in fact they will literally put in decent effort to seek it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:22 PM
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You have no idea wtf you're talking about and saying shit like this is so insulting to men who have actually been victims of female violence such as myself, weapons are a thing believe it or not, but it goes beyond just violence. Losing half your money and your kids in a bad divorce, getting your entire reputation and social circle destroyed if you get falsely accused of something. Women have much more power, by proxy, over men than the feminists on here are willing to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:56 PM
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Instead, the manosphere acts like the biggest issues facing men are who pays for first dates and mandatory paternity testing This is just blatantly false and if you've spent any time in manosphere spaces you would know this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:30 PM
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Calling out men on here for being paranoid about women is a bit hypocritical considering how obsessively paranoid women here are about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:23 PM
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Sure thing what ? What the fuck are you talking about ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:39 AM
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'You don't understand English as well as you think you do if you need somebody to use basic punctuation so their sentences don't completely blend together into one' I understood it eventually but I had to re-read it several times. Also your point isn't valid either, the men asking women to approach aren't the same men shaming women for approaching, men aren't a monolith and all have separate beliefs and ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:14 AM
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Reading that just gave me an aneurysm, please learn to use speech marks or colons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:47 AM
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Damn that made me feel patriotic, fuck yeah let's go Australia
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:35 AM
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There's a big difference between a woman being 'thick' fat, where she has big boobs and butt but still an hourglass figure and a pretty face, and a woman who has a big gut and a double chin. I find it hard to believe a gym bro would want to be with the latter if he actually looks remotely impressive and has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:08 AM
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Haha give me a fkn break women say this kind of shit all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:43 AM
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You know what that's fair I take back what I said, but I still think the best people to learn from are the types of guys I described. I'm of the belief that the way in which you approach isn't really that important as long as you have a level of confidence and social skills, which a little bit of booze can go a long way in creating, what's most important is who is doing the approaching, so become the type of guy who women want. Depending on who you are that can be much easier said that done but …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:32 AM
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Says the mf who walks up to women asking to lick their pussy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:20 AM
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You sound like a very empathic person and I appreciate the thought behind caring about men on this issue, but honest truth is that most dudes don't really care if a woman sexually assualts them because the feeling of fear or vulnerability isn't really there like it is for women. Exceptions exist, I still think it should be a crime but not something that needs to be heavily enforced unless the victim feels truly violated and wants to speak to the cops. I'm a big ripped guy and it happens to me on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:19 AM
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Arrests don't paint the whole picture, women are far less likely to get arrested for violence or sexual assualt because most men won't bother to go to the cops about it. You could say this is men's fault if they choose not to talk to the police but imo most cops have bigger shit to deal with than a woman grabbing a guys ass or slapping him and they'd usually just brush you off anyway. Based on my observations from the night life and seeing alcohol fueled violence on the regular, female on male v…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:01 AM
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Yep you tell them hahaha, first thing the redpill teaches is LMS and looks comes first in that for a good reason. Very high levels of money and status combined can beat looks though, but 99.9% of people will never get close to that level so you better start grinding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:15 AM
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100% this, the only people you should ever be asking for advice are guys who get a lot of women, but at some point in the past struggled with women. Any other group isn't going to know what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:48 AM
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That doesn't disprove what he said in the slightest, both of those statements can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:46 AM
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Married men are giving the same advice as woman I'm not married but I do have a lot of success with women nowadays and I 100% believe in many of the points of the redpill such as looks, money, status, having charisma, not listening to what women say but observing what they do etc etc bottom line is guys just don’t want to put in real effort and don’t acknowledge that maybe they themselves, are the problem Shit like this makes me so frustrated, the whole idea of the redpill is vigorous self impro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:44 AM
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The people who go on these crazy and expensive first dates are setting themselves up for disappointment and putting too much pressure on themselves Depends on their income, as long as it's within their means there's no issue spending a lot of money on a date. A millionaire spending $200 on a first date is completely different to a broke college student doing the same. This is pretty obvious I know but it is an important distinction to make, as dudes who actually follow redpill advice instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:46 AM
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Yeah true, when he said transactional I assumed he was talking about prostitution but I guess that word can be used to mean different things
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:31 AM
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When you realise 90% on the women on here are over 250lbs everything starts to fall into place
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:55 AM
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dont approach women -purely- as a sexual prospect he was talking about relationships not hook up He was talking about both
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:42 AM
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Sure. Sometimes with directly telling them i want to kiss them, lick their pussy or fuck them. Fucken lmao this has to be a troll, even a gigachad teir guy doing this would be questionable at best unless the woman he approaches is a complete slut with no self respect. Kissing is one thing, I've done that myself, but going up to a girl and saying you want to lick their pussy out of the blue, you're gonna get some of the autists here locked up with that hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:27 PM
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dont approach women -purely- as a sexual prospect dont approach women purely as a romantic or relationship prospect ever Wtf kind of advice is this, I do this shit all the time at the club and it works if she's attracted to you and DTF
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:19 PM
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One of the first lessons of the redpill is to not listen to what women say, but watch what they do, but for some reason guys on here still insist on asking women for dating advice even though it's only going to cause them more confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:48 PM
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The VAST majority of casual sex women have is after there is a spark. What would you consider to be a spark, the example I used was extreme where there was practically 0 interaction before asking for sex, and I do agree with you that the overwhelming majority of women won't do that, but what if you meet somebody at a bar and chat with them for a short while then go home with them- if you got to know the person to some extent would you consider that a spark, even if you didn't know them particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:33 PM
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Yeah this is true, sad but very true, notice how I used the word 'people' and not women- it's perfectly normal to not find fat men attractive either. There have been times in my life where I was fat as fk but I never complained about women not finding me attractive because why should they, I looked like shit, I was unhealthy and it just gives off an aura that you lack discipline and self respect which are traits that bleed over into all facets of life. I would hope that all the guys in this sub …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:20 PM
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I have literally been on the street outside the club and had girls come up to me and tell me I'm hot and ask to come home with me right there and then. No I am not making this up. This has happened more than once. Yes I did accept the offers. Sometimes promiscious, usually drunk, horny women do just look at guys and think "I want to fuck him", its not particularly rare to see actually if you go clubbing often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:25 PM
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incel dates women Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:08 PM
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You were taught who to be attracted to based on popular media. Dumbest thing I've read this year so far
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:45 PM
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It's completely normal to not find fat people attractive lmao, this is your brain on 'murica
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:44 PM
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body type is a big flag, guys that are kinda big and buff and "jacked". Lmao are u srs, big buff dudes are often some of the kindest guys you will meet. Even the ones who aren't so kind are usually just vain and up themselves, but not violent or abusive. Outliers exist but I wouldn't say buff guys are any more likely to be abusive than anyone else. Imo the guys who are most likely to be abusive are men who have a chip on their shoulder and want to regain some feeling of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:26 PM
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Its very unlikely that an attractive woman is going to be in a place like this bro let's be real. The average woman in America is already 170lbs at 5'4, I think it's fair to say that the average redditor with any notable amount of karma is in worse shape than the average person, so there's a good chance that she's obese. Ever notice how no women on this sub seem to be into really handsome, tall, ripped guys but if you go onto somewhere that attractive women use like instagram the chad type dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:19 AM
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This is partly true but I also just love sex for the pleasure of it and I'd say most men would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:27 AM
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This is partly true for but I also just love sex for the pleasure of it and I'd say most men would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:27 AM
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If he was some regular guy with a respectable job, I’m not saying he’d turn heads, but he would absolutely be quite successful in dating I don't think he would do terribly, but I don't think he would be a slayer, he would just have an average dating life. Do you disagree with me that assuming they were both nobodies, the first guy I sent would have an easier time getting girls, especially for casual sex ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:45 PM
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Jeremy Allen looks a bit weird, has negative canchal tilt, and a bad chin (I don’t know the term for this feature), yet he’s sort of in vogue with women right now. Some women will even say “he looks weird but idk I find him so hot” It's called status, and it's one of the key elements of the redpill. Same thing happens to Joey ramone and Mick Jagger despite being very unattractive facially. Take away his celebrity status, just make him an average dude walking down the street and he would not turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:30 PM
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Yeah true I walked into that, my mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:08 PM
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Testosterone is a helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:07 PM
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yelling that women don't need oral or clit stimulation to orgasm. They don't though, well not all of them anyway, maybe 50/50. Depends on dick size and how good the guy is at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:06 PM
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Both men and women can't easily have casual sex with women Debatable, my experience with having a fling with a bisexual girl tells me a very different story
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:04 PM
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Funny how all the women in this thread are telling on themselves- if the only types of dudes you can attract are men with no stroke game, they says more about you than men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:00 PM
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Afaik there's a higher number of bisexual women than men, so they could be dating other women. Otherwise I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:53 PM
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Among attractive men there is subjectivity concerning which is the most attractive sure, you can't rank a group of people's attractiveness in a perfect 1:1 list of least attractive to most attractive, but that's what leagues exist for. Two guys can be say an 8/10 in the looks department for different reasons and not particularly resemble each other, some women would prefer one over the other and vice versa, but they're both considered to be good looking dudes and would both still clean up at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:02 PM
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It's also ridiculous to evaluate beauty by separately measuring individual features as if they're disconected. I've seen the charts with the people rated by beauty and it’s utter bullshit Yep you're not wrong, some people suck at rating faces. Facial harmony is just as important as individual features, but that can still be measured to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:37 PM
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Outliers don't prove the rule though, I always find this frustrating when trying to argue with bluepillers. Take the two guys I linked in my comment, put them in a room with 100000 women and ask them which they would prefer to date/find more attractive. Somehow you've got to control for sour grapes, I guess you would have to put them in a room with 100000 women who have high self esteem. How many do you think are going to chose the second guy? Like seriously, you call it subjective, but of those…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:36 PM
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Yeah dude there's no such thing as objective attractiveness, this guy and this this guy are equally good looking and its only about personal preference ! God damn, shit like this is why I can't take bluepillers seriously, of course there are good looking people and ugly people, I wouldn't even call that a redpill opinion, that's just basic common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:11 PM
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NONE OF THOSE REDPILL CONTENT CREATORS IS AN ALPHA, IS ATTRACTIVE, IS SEXY!!! Tristan Tate and Austin Dunham are pretty good looking dudes and they absolutely slay. Edit: also I assume you're going to reply to this saying something along the lines of 'umm actually I don't think they're attractive', which is fine, you're entitled to your own opinion, but women on this sub need to realise that they can't just extrapolate their own personal opinions onto all women. These dudes do 10000x better than…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:34 AM
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Yeah I tend to agree although if she doesn't find him physically attractive I'd say there is a very high chance of infidelity, so you can't have one without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:09 AM
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Tbh that was just a joke, a bad taste one at that, I do see your point and I've made a similar argument in the past. A bit of reasonable caution is fine and should be condoned if not encouraged, but there's a line where it just becomes paranoid mental illness and it seems like a lot of the women on this sub have far crossed that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:42 AM
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If they are clean, present well, and doing more, they should be drowning in female validation, right? Since “women only care about looks” according to red pill lore. Looks is more than just being presentable, it's about facial features, height, race, hair (balding), physique, skin quality, age etc. Unfortunately many of these are unchangeable without cosmetic surgery, but that is always an option if one has the funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:50 PM
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As much as this is mostly true, it isn't the only factor. Looks > status > money > charisma, that's the order of importance but they all make a notable difference. Hell I'd even argue that status has more power to get women than looks does assuming you're not hideous, but you have to have pretty damn high status to reap notable benefits. Contrary to what some people claim, there are plenty of decent looking dudes who struggle with getting women. Sure they're always going to have some options and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:29 PM
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If this person started saying things like “black people commit x amount of the crime” or “you never know which one is the bad one so it’s best to be cautious of them all” would you say “yeah totally makes sense and no one should tell you otherwise? ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:46 PM
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It’s was very fulfilling. Yeah you're in an extreme minority, male or female, if you can be perfectly fulfilled by masturbation. Most men aren’t great at sex Girls be out here starfishing then acting like they're good at sex just because the guy nutted even though he was doing all the work lol. But yeah I agree most men probably aren't great at sex but neither are most women. Right the hottest men get with the hottest women. Okay? And? Did you even look at the images, read their fkn bios they cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:08 AM
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You have no idea what my testosterone levels are I know you don't have the testosterone levels of man or anywhere close, that is just basic biology. Idek what you're trying to argue here lol. Again, it isn’t that big of a deal. And orgasm fixes it. Not someone else giving it to you. Masturbation isn't a replacement for sex, if it's enough to satisfy your needs then you don't have a very high sex drive. he just thinks there’s this game involved in talking to women, when most women just want to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:35 AM
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I went without sex from 22-28. It isn’t that big of a deal. Easy to say as a woman with negligible levels of testosterone lol, I'd say that is a pretty big deal and that would definitely fuck me up mentally to some extent. He still thinks playing some weird pick up artist game is going to get him a girlfriend who is young, virginal, athletic, kind, a homemaker, independent, successful and every other trait he is looking for. Redpill doesn't tell men to use pick-up artist game to get women, that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:02 PM
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I agree with you to an extent but you're kind of implying that there isn't a large chunk of men who have everything going for them except for a dating life, so although it's obviously not the only thing that matters, it is the only thing that's missing. If a guy had everything in life except for access to drinkable water, you wouldn't go up to him and say he should stop caring so much and that there's more to life that water. Dating is a bit different because of course a lack of romantic attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:42 PM
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As a 6'3 dude I back this, height has given me a huge advantage in getting girls and it would be dumb for me to pretend otherwise. Being tall also means women are happy to talk shit about short guys in front of you because they assume you won't take offence, and I have had this happen many times. I think you can definitely work around being 'not tall', but if you're sub 5'5 for example, it's going to be very difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:21 PM
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Telling someone to just forget about dating entirely is probably the absolute worst possible dating advice you could give somebody lmao. "I am badly in need of employment, how would I go about getting a job?" "Just forget about work entirely bro, you have to be okay with yourself. Live a life that you find joy in"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:05 PM
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Most women I have hooked up with wanted to be dominated in one way or another, whether it be spanking, choking, hair pulling etc. It's got literally nothing to do with porn or grifters, it's my lived experience. And there are plenty of women on this post commenting that they like it too. I would never do that shit unconsentially but to act like no women are into it is ignorant af.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:18 PM
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No I'm not saying looks don't matter, they do matter a lot, they're arguably the most important part of attraction, it's just that if you are good looking then you will get approached way more than once in a blue moon if you are in social environments often.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:10 PM
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Once in a blue moon Who's gonna tell him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:15 PM
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Fucking a lot of hot girls is considered success with women yes, you don't need to be a virgin to believe this T. Sex haver
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:47 PM
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To me “high quality” is someone kind, loyal, trustworthy and intelligent enough I can have good discussions with and also make me laugh. Those are the traits that matter in a lasting, loving relationship. Looks fade, millionaires can become broke overnight. Hey that's great and all, really it is, but most women care about looks, money, status just as much if not more than how kind or intelligent a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:52 PM
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only the top 1% of men get approached That's a bit of an exaggeration, maybe top 10-20%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:35 AM
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I've had a similar experience to him and I've been told that I am hot or good looking by quite a few people over the years so I'd assume I'm decently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:16 AM
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This already happens bro
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:46 PM
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Probably bars/clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:25 PM
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True that's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:22 PM
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How are men supposed to act on this advice? Ignore it lmao, are u really gonna let some random feminist on reddit dictate how you act irl bro, get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:01 PM
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Source: I made it up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:11 PM
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Throw a number out there then, it's definitely not an insignificant portion of women who are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:27 PM
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It doesn't even describe most. Idk that's highly debatable. I'd say it's minimum 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:26 PM
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It's not a small minority, it's more like 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:43 PM
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you've had luck with three women Lol I've had luck with many more than 3 women, but 3 or 4 women have specifically said to me that they were giving me the fuck me eyes and were upset that I didn't approach them. I'm now finding out from this post that there's a population of men that are very frustrated that I didn't notice them staring silently from across the room like we're in a romcom or some shit It's equally as dumb whether a man or woman does it, people only do it because they're afraid o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:03 PM
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Haha nah its not on me to learn what that looks like, there's no such thing as fuck me eyes, a look a girl gives a guy could be interpreted in 1000 different ways, especially if it's a stranger and you don't know what they look like when they're making certain expressions. If a woman wants a man to approach her it's up to her to be more obvious than just looking in the general direction of a man, this should really go without saying lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:42 PM
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I've had women approach me very overtly like the way you described before, but I've also had women get upset that I didn't make a move on them and their justification was that they had been giving me 'the fuck me eyes' as if I'm supposed to know wtf that is. Moral of the story: different women act in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:39 PM
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This is laughably untrue, the amount of times I've had a girl tell me she was giving me the 'fuck me eyes' and was upset I didn't approach her is crazy (I mean it's only happened like 3 or 4 times but that's still 3 or 4 too many). Wtf are fuck me eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:35 PM
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I'd venture that bluer-pilled advice on Reddit is a large factor in sending guys down the redpill rabbit hole 100%, seeing how delusional, out of touch and sometimes just plain insane the takes of the bluepillers on here are has done more to solidify my beliefs than anything I've ever heard a redpiller say, although at the end of the day by far the biggest influence on my beliefs has just been countless IRL experiences. Most of this shit I already had come to similar conclusions about on my own …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:16 PM
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Yep I agree with this 100%. LMS is your potential, whether you approach or not and your game determines if you fulfill that potential or not. But if you have 0 LMS then your potential is also very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:42 PM
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Yeah ofc it does, what do you think S stands for in LMS
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:51 PM
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This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:05 PM
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All looks, money, status does is increase your pull/rejection ratio, and increase the number of women who approach you first. If you want to get laid a lot you still need to brute force approaches (as in approach as many women as possible) even if you're top teir and you are still going to face rejection, just at a comparatively much lower rate than a dude with very poor LMS. But it does get to the point where if your LMS is low enough, you would have to approach literal thousands of women to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:50 PM
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And regarding women's sexual responsiveness I truly believe that the majority of women will sleep with any guy who displays the right dominance cues in the right situation. Lost you there dude, there is 100% a minimum Looks, Money, Status threshold every woman has set for men in order to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:44 PM
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Kpop dudes have extremely high status, if these guys were just nobodies who walked into a bar I highly doubt they would slay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:29 PM
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I didn't say you need to have those stats to get laid, my point was that if you fit that description then you're gonna have a hard time not getting laid, assuming you put yourself out there and aren't completely socially retarded because you will have girls making moves on you on a regular basis. You can still get laid otherwise, it's just not going to be as effortless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:55 AM
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yet give no advice on how to treat a woman well, which is the most important thing you ought to teach if you want men to get into and maintain relationships. Dude it's not even close to the most important thing for a man to get into a relationship, even if you're fully bluepilled surely you can agree that social skills and social circle are more important than just being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:48 PM
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If you're decent looking, over 6ft and have an impressive physique then as long as you put yourself in social situations (go to the bar or club) you will get girls coming up to you pretty often wanting to hook up with you. Little bit of alcohol and your inhibitions will be lowered enough that getting laid is easy. If these dudes struggled then they probably either weren't good looking enough or never went outside. Exception is if they were extremely spergy or socially awkward, then yeah I agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:56 PM
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i’ve seen who are dumbfounded when they’ve spent months at the gym and improve their appearance & still can’t find a relationship. It’s really their personality Could be their personality but it's probably more to do with their face and height. Gym only makes a notable difference if you have a decent base. Also that's all completely irrelevant anyway because unless they're on a bunch of steroids then they're not going to be able to build an impressive physique in a period of months, it takes sev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:10 PM
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i’ve seen who are dumbfounded when they’ve spent months at the gym and improve their appearance & still can’t find a relationship. It’s really their personality Could be their personality but it's probably more to do with their face and height. Gym only makes a notable difference if you have a decent base. Also that's all completely irrelevant anyway because unless they're on a bunch of steroids then they're not going to be able to build an impressive physique in a period of months, it takes sev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:09 PM
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Do you not see any issue with basing your entire arguments off 'I do this' or 'I do that' and then extrapolating that onto women in general. Most women I know irl act nothing like the way you've described yourself. Tinder experiments show that there is a high threshold for looks in men. Anybody who has gone on a night out at the bar with a really good looking dude will back up the importance of looks 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:55 AM
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corsets weren't a thing when i was coming of age they were i thought men liked women more the less fat they had on their body, to any extreme As long as they're a healthy weight I think guys care a lot more about other attributes, idk many dudes who's ideal woman is stick thin. People cite the 90s as a time where very skinny was ideal and although I think this is true to an extent there were still plenty of actresses/sex symbols who were a normal weight or on the curvier side.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:33 PM
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I am straight up red ragging some people. Oh of course, try to offend me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:37 PM
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desirable women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:31 PM
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when it comes to actual dating, a lot of what is chosen isn't just the face. Correct, it's looks (face, height, frame, muscularity, bodyfat percent, hair, style etc), money (self explanatory) and status (how popular you are among your social circle, whether you have a high status job like pro athlete, musician, influencer etc). Desirable women are not dating geeks unless they settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:28 PM
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Men don't have eyes, ears, a basic functioning brain that can recognise patterns apparently. Anyway idk why I'm letting you bait me, like I said I'm 95% sure you're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:20 PM
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Other traits like intelligence, humour, and some sort of talent all play a part. I'm convinced the majority of so called women on this sub are just dudes who have conspired together to form an elaborate trolling division just to fuck with people, there's no way in hell you actually think those are the key traits that get dudes laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:46 PM
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Men have always liked curves, how long do you think corsets have been around for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:13 PM
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