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So, basically, when a guy says he's an incel and doesn't hate women, you think he's lying about not hating, but when another guy says he's not an incel and hates women, he's lying about not being an incel? That's really confusing.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:02 AM
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But that's exactly what a lot of people here are saying - people who have sex are the bigger misogynists.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:54 AM
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For the top 1%?
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:58 PM
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I can explain why you're starting with the false assumptions, but I already did, in the first comment.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 12:36 PM
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This is either a pile of horseshit from someone who tries to sound smart, or just a sad trolling attempt.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 12:32 PM
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No, they're double gay now. It accumulates in the body.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 08:01 PM
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Damn chemicals in the water turn the frogs gay, part II.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 02:34 PM
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Regardless of his looks, I think he's the perfect example to illustrate my point from our previous conversation. The man was somewhat of an extreme leftist, then decided he'll be more successful on the other side and immediately changed all his principles and opinions. And I'm sure he'll do it again if he thinks there's more clout and money there.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 10:33 AM
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Yes, comrade, we are.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 03:47 PM
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I also think you're always saying "Edomite (so-called white)" just because it rhymes.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 03:02 PM
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Yeah, right.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 03:00 PM
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Edomites (so-called white people), whom are pushing the LGBTQ agenda, own the banks, the media, and controls Hollywood etc. No, don't be shy, tell us exactly who it is.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:49 PM
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I can tell you that we aren't there yet. It's really sad. For me, it's hard to even comprehend that people can make fluorescent rabbits but can't make less ugly people. How short are you talking about? I couldn't find the statistics right now, but I think the one that's always mentioned here says that from 96% of women (the amount who admitted the partner's height matters for them) 100% wouldn't date a man shorter that 5'0, and about 50% wouldn't date one shorter that 5'7. His height didn't both…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 07:20 AM
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Again, you're talking about keeping the attractive traits, I'm talking about removing the unattractive ones. Being tall doesn't automatically make you attractive, but being very short does make you unattractive. Same with the other traits. I understand that's it's not "just change this one gene here", but I believe it can be done (though I'm not a scientist). Maybe not about all the traits, but about a lot of them.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 07:59 PM
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Are you replying to the wrong comment? I said nothing about her being a pickme.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 01:28 PM
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I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. I can agree that different women like different-looking guys, but there's a reason it's usually referred to as "different flavour of Chads" here. All the different types of men that are attractive to different women still constitute quite a small part of all men. Very short men are universally unattractive, men with micropenis are universally unacctractive, men with recessed chin and other signs of low testosterone are also universally unattractive. If …
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 11:37 AM
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The controversial videos are always more profitable. She herself says in this video that the original one about male loneliness was the fastest growing video on her channel. There are people who will say anything for fame and money, and they can make a lot of good points, it just doesn't mean that they really mean what they say and that they won't support an opposite point of view next time.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:59 AM
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and a shoulder to cry on I thought, the whole "women aren't your therapists" meme was against this idea.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:28 AM
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It doesn't say this to me, had to check, still 5'7.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 10:50 AM
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He's also 5'4. Google says he's 176cm (5'9).
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 09:41 AM
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A good-looking black guy will always be more successful with women that an ugly white one. Race doesn't mean that much. It also depends on how rare your skin color is. In Russia, the blacks are always very popular, because they are seen as exotic (about 1 person in 2000 here is black).
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 10:14 AM
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I probably should have been more direct. I'm in Russia, and everything you've said is false here. Up to 2022, there were much more female emigrants from Russia than male ones, because it's so much easier to do as a woman. On the other hand, immigration is mostly men or families. "Lots of female immigrants from asia and latin america" do not exist here. Why the hell would they go to the worse country than theirs? Also, when you're not rich, race means much less that looks. Almost every time I've …
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 09:55 AM
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No it isn't. We'll run out of food long before we get to this level of overcrowding. The prisons are probably less overcrowded than that experiment was. When there's a big guy who constantly beats up anybody he doesn't like, and you don't have anywhere to go, I'm not sure you'd think about reproducing.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 08:05 AM
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The experiment was highly critiqued. The people who didn't know much about mice have put a lot of them in an encosed space, and when the mice started to go crazy from stress deduced that maybe heaven wouldn't be so good for humans.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 10:04 PM
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Today I learned Russia is not a slavic country.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:53 PM
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The whites get laid there because they're from rich countries and are seen as high status. When you're an ugly loser from almost the same country, just with lighter skin, you don't get laid.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:18 PM
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You're talking about white people as if they all either are rich, live in rich countries or have easy access to the girls of other races who definitely love them the most. For me it's very weird.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:48 PM
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So, there's no white people other than in US and Western Europe?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:01 AM
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I'm gonna assume you're made of straw, so it would be easier for me to attack you.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 11:09 AM
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Well, if confidence mattered, you'd already have a girl.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 09:07 AM
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Man, it's like your third account just on this sub. I don't think someone has found out how you find a girlfriend since your last post.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 09:03 AM
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Look at the other comments. One side is saying "some men are so lonely they become addicted to parasocial relationships and are basically paying for nothing out of desperation", and the others are like "you just hate that women have more control over the profits".
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:43 AM
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Human gene editing is banned in a lot of countries, which also hinders its "refinement".
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 12:40 PM
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which is the path the world is taking If it was taking this path, there would be fewer bans on human gene editing, and more talking about single people. Sadly, gene editing is also eugenics (and we know it's Nazi), so we'll just do nothing and wait while the weak are dying out naturally (it's natural so it's good).
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 12:26 PM
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The Onlyfans isn't the oldest job in the world, the good old prostitution is, there's quite a difference. Also, guys here are getting angry about other guys paying for Onlyfans, you're just looking for a way to make it about women.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 12:17 PM
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Wouldn't we be doing better without the hereditary diseases? In the worst cases, there are such genetic defects that a child is born, suffers for a few years at most, and then dies. There's a lot of problems which wouldn't exist if some people weren't allowed to procreate. Again, I didn't forget about the fixing the genes way, it's just in the early stages of development and mostly forbidden. And frankly, we're not doing fine. There's like a half of this sub that's not doing fine at all.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 12:11 PM
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Are you really saying that the post shaming simps is misogynistic?
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 11:57 AM
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I'm not sure what it means. What do you propose people do then, if they want to improve the genes in the whole society?
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 11:54 AM
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Because it's basically paying for something freely available. If onlyfans was free (I don't know if there's a free version), I don't think there would be so much negativity towards it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 11:52 AM
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Who the hell pays for porn? There's a full internet of it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 11:20 AM
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After the eugenics movement was well established in the United States, it spread to Germany. California eugenicists began producing literature promoting eugenics and sterilization and sending it overseas to German scientists and medical professionals.[15] By 1933, California had subjected more people to forceful sterilization than all other U.S. states combined. The forced sterilization program engineered by the Nazis was partly inspired by California's.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 11:03 AM
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Because that's how Nazi Eugenists thought. ​ know of the diseases women can pass onto kids So you're mad those people are only half-Hitlers on mom's side? I agree that the best way to improve the humanity's genetics (at least, until we can fix genes in utero) would be sterilizing the genetically unfit of any sex. However, the people are usually mad at this, so the next best thing is not letting a half of them reproduce. Statistically, it still improves the population's genetics. Also, it looks l…
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 10:59 AM
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lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 10:44 AM
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That's just bullshit. A very specific minority of criminals is manipulative, like conmen. The vast majority of sexually successful criminals are dumb aggressive assholes who can't plan more than 5 minutes ahead. I'm not talking about career criminals, just the guys who get out of prison and get back there in like a month for beating another person. I knew a guy (very briefly) who was either drunk, in prison or in hospital because this kind of life isn't very healthy. He complained (or boasted?) …
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 08:33 AM
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Why is there a video of a picture instead of the picture itself? Who even does that?
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:07 PM
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I personally think those children should be raised by professionals. There's a lot of people who are unfit to be parents genetically (but anyone who dares to mention it is literally Hitler), and a lot of those who will just be shitty incompetent parents and screw their children up regardless of the genes.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 08:12 AM
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No, I think that's what you were suggesting while trying to bring attention to the name. Looked at some of the episodes - looks like an attempt to gain clout using popular meme characters. I'm not sure it's even worth the discussion.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 11:38 AM
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Are you aware that he's called by this joke name in this post only, and it's not a self-naming? OP even includes the artist's "real" name in the post.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 11:16 AM
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Imagine Jack the Ripper telling the police:"Listen guys, I understand that killing prostitutes might not be the best way to help them, but what else can we do to help?" Have you considered not bullying them? It won't get them laid, of course, but it won't hurt.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:01 PM
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I don't see how this contradicts my words. If someone grows his own food, it doesn't mean he's self-sufficient. Food isn't the only thing people need to survive.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 02:23 PM
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I absoultely disagree. Low status men used to get wives. No one sees if you're getting ass, it's a private matter. Maybe the kids just look like their mom, not the neighbour. But everyone sees if you're not supporting her financially.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:11 PM
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Technically, everybody was pressured into it, by the economy. I agree that it's wrong to say that it benefited men at the expense of women.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:08 PM
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Maybe we're talking about different cultures, but from what I've read, it was not a choice between kids and work, but rather between kids and starving at old age. Everybody still worked, no one cared who's pregnant.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:01 PM
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That's just not true. Women were pressured into marrying when surviving by yourself was barely possible for an average person. It doesn't have anything to do with women's rights. If anything, when women had less rights it was harder for low status men, because not only the woman had to agree to marry you, you had to get her parents' blessing as well.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 11:12 AM
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100% of people can't be rich. If everyone's trying very hard, 90% just die younger, and the 0.01% buy themselves new mansions and yachts. Also, thinking that everyone in the past was "self-sufficient, productive, healthy and happy" is hilarious.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:41 AM
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"I have a lot of sex, also I'm a boxer, also I've been in military, just me being myself makes women flock to me". Why are you trying to imitate an alpha male here? Who are you trying to impress?
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 07:29 AM
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WHY IS THERE ONE OF ME BUT THREE OF YOU?77
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 07:54 AM
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Who said anything about patriarchy?
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 07:39 AM
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A stupid argument, honestly. Your children are not your future, they're different people who have a part of your DNA. Are you so determined to see a part of your genes be there after you're gone?
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 07:16 AM
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It's like calling women whores if they don't agree with you. It's not only stupid, it's just the wrong word.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 10:50 AM
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By the statistics I could find, about 8% of men in US are 5'6 or shorter, but only about 2.5% are autistic. Also, I don't get why it's worse if it's not that rare.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 10:04 AM
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I'm sorry, are you trying to scare men with living in a huge mansion, having a personal chef and a 100k of yearly income? Even if some people are too disgusted of old women to accept it, having this option is already living on easy mode.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 02:16 PM
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Well, when you suggest that there can be an institution that rehabilitated incels, and that one should escape from it in order to leave, it means to me you're talking about either criminals or insane people, or both. Not like just a guy who can't get laid because nobody likes his face.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 01:39 PM
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How nice of you to assume that every guy who never had sex but wants to must be crazy.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 10:45 AM
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Why did you start talking about ugly men, and then immediately switched to the average ones? Yes, 5/10 + income + personality (not necessary) can find someone, just not very easy. Also, being average-looking and having a decent income makes them higher than average person. But neurodivergent people are quite rare, and if you're comparing them to the uglies, take those who make basically the same percentage as the neurodivergent, the lower few percents.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 11:10 AM
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If you lack social skills or you are high inhibition I lack social skills due to my ugliness. You don't get to socialize a lot when no one wants to talk to you. you won't even read the signals from the opposite sex, hardly approach anyone If you're good-looking, women will approach you, and maybe find your awkwardness cute. and let's be real being a 5/10 is not ugly So why are you comparing being neurodivergent with being 5/10? I agree, being autistic is worse than being average-looking.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 10:54 AM
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Try running straight.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 01:38 PM
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You're saying it like being bitter is a choice. I would like to be happy then. The studies suggest the happy people are the happiest.
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 02:34 PM
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No, thanks. If I wanted to be that crazy, I'd go read IncelTear for a few hours. The downside of all the "thought experiments" is the same - you always know they're not real. It's a way to keep reminding yourself you've got nothing in real life, and if you're not completely crazy, it will hurt more.
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 07:10 AM
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Let's begin with numbers. Let's not begin with numbers. First, a chad isn't defined by numbers, it's just a good-looking man who is popular with women. Second, you assume that all the characteristics are normally distributed and aren't correlated with each other. If your aim was not to get a ridiculously low number of chads, you'd probably stop at the 2.11%. if we more openly acknowledged the blackpill, meaning that nonchads cease all sexual/romantic attempts to associate with women... Where did…
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 06:38 AM
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No, not in big boy. A strange assumption.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 11:06 AM
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Why are the two of you measuring BMI in percents?
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 10:53 AM
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Just wait for the rain, so it's like you're also showering.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 10:49 AM
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Who hurt you?
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 06:54 AM
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Basically, all you do on Reddit is searching for the unlucky men and calling them Nazis. You're not a good person.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 06:37 AM
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Why would I accept a lie? I know what is repulsive about me much better than you do.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 08:09 AM
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Calling your bullshit is not the same as hysterically rejecting the hard truth, you know.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 08:05 AM
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you guys think you're accepting hard truths by blaming women for not being attracted to you Who exactly blames women here? It's very much understandable, nobody likes ugly people. instead of showing you the actual hard truth I'm a bit intrigued, but I still think your "hard truth" will be a usual personality bullshit. You're not gonna horrify people here with the oldest lie in the book.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 07:58 AM
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The size of your ego is astonishing. I never knew we're having so much fun here just because you're letting us enjoy the blackpill.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 07:43 AM
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And unless you're willing to fight stray dogs for a fresh juicy rat, you have no right to complain about hunger.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 07:38 AM
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Some people are just obsessed, not unlike yourself. Doesn't mean they're gay or even racist.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 02:45 PM
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Are you counting the envious posts about black guys as the gay ones? I don't remember seeing a gay post about specifically black men on an incel sub.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 01:39 PM
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I said "incel fanfiction sites", because even when the large incel subs were up, there were people there who just liked "making incel content" regardless of their own feelings or situation, like the people with "daily reminders". If they're on the incel sites now, they don't write about themselves, they write what they think the others feel, for the internet points. It's like the virgin obsession, when there's lot of content on the incel forums about only wanting virgins, but in reality most of …
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 01:32 PM
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I could easily find a video where african women are described as traditional and family-oriented. Apparently, they also love cooking and making love to their husbands. If you're reading incel fanfiction sites, that's your problem.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 01:11 PM
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You never see it. I've read people describing african women the same way, and as a Russian, I see the same idealization of Caucasian women and women from most of the ex-USSR countries all the time.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 12:56 PM
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They're not morally better at all, but it's not a racial issue. Women from poor countries are idealized regardless of their race, it's not a "yellow fever".
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 12:35 PM
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It has already been mentioned in comments that it's not a racial issue at all, it's an economic one. Rich guys see the poor girls' willingness to be their wives as them being not as picky as their western counterparts, while the girls are just tolerating a loser to move to a rich country.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 12:30 PM
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Oh, the racist post of the day. Waiting for the guy with Ammonites and Moabites, it's not the same without his comments.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 11:42 AM
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Many of them are very racist, hate black women Sour grapes, maybe. Or they just wanted to bring you down because you have it better than they do.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 11:36 AM
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I can only suppose you don't see like 80% of the guys as people. The majority of incels are ethnic, and very few of them write about wanting the white girls only. I don't have the experience talking to the average people about this, because there are almost no blacks where I live. I'm not American, but I can't believe a girl who's 6 or 7 (since you want a guy like that) can have no guys of similar looks and socioeconomic standing available. You need to be like 2 or 3, and there still would be gu…
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 11:17 AM
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Maybe 10 years ago, I've seen (on some PUA site, I think) a description of how game can work, and I think it's better than usual "charisma and confidence" bullshit. Basically, game is a way to get a girl who already likes you to get into bed with you faster, and it was not about cringy pick up-lines, but more about talking to a girl a lot. Of course, there also was a lot of pseudo-scientific shit attached, but the conclusion was more or less sensible - when she feels she's known you for a long t…
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 10:53 AM
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A luxury to have to work? What are you talking about? Women who could afford not to work were a minority, in poor families both spouses always worked, they had to.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 08:58 AM
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Ah, ok then.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 01:15 PM
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Nice alt bro. As the people like to say, if you don't love yourself, no one will love you.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 12:35 PM
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Another example of "if you don't agree with me, you don't understand my very clever posts", masked in a full post of bullshit. That's just a primitive, pathetic manipulation attempt.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 04:51 PM
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There's music in cartoons, there's no cartoons in music. Checkmate, atheists.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 11:07 AM
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So? They're still consuming the content, not making it. If an anime lover goes to the anime conventions, would you consider him the same?
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 10:53 AM
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Why are you lumping musicians and music-lovers into the same group? The latter should be together with the other "passive, recreational activities". It's like saying sports fans are the same as the players themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 10:45 AM
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Using the Bible as a history book also isn't a good idea. I'm not sure it's a good idea to use it for anything except its direct purpose, which is religion. Edit: well, now I don't see this thread further than this comment, and can't see my own reply. Sad.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 10:02 AM
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Why would I care how the Bible defines this word? Using the ancient religious texts as dictionaries is not a good idea.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:59 AM
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Well, I can't debunk your words because you're not even using them right. That's not what a nation means. “Arabs” and “Persians” were never seen as “races,” I can't even find the Arabs seen as a nation, except for some nationalists. They're an ethnic group. Also, you didn't answer my questions about "Edomites".
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:43 AM
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The "so-called" doesn't save your rhetoric at all, because nations are not "so-called" races. Why is your division by nation perfectly matches the old division by race?Nations are not races at all. a word that is used to describe someone or something is 👉not suitable or not correct👈” because that’s not their actual identity. None of the words you use to describe "nations" are their actual identity. Even the one you give me as the proof of your words is not their identity, because they call thems…
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:16 AM
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I'm not saying they are, I say they theoretically can be. It doesn't work with height, because men don't just have to be "this tall at least", they have to be taller than average.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:06 AM
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I call people nations not “races” like you do. If you divide people by races and call this nations, it doesn't make them so, even if you take the fancier names for them. You literally call all the "white" people the same name, making them the same nation in your eyes. It's not what a nation is.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:01 AM
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Well, I indeed don't understand why we're arguing. In my opinion, if someone says money don't buy happiness, he's trying to tell you he's in a position where it's true, meaning he's rich.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 08:41 AM
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I understand that race is much more a social construct that a hard science. I'm just saying that if you're so determined to talk about nations, you shouldn't take modern races, call them by the outdated religious names for the same races and say they're nations if you call them like that. the fact that the people identified as nations as I showed by the Mizraimites calling themselves “Cham” (Ham) 🤣. You just took a three letter word (even a name!), found the similar sounding one in a different l…
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 08:37 AM
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It just means that this adage is more or less right for the people who make less than that. As the statistics tells us, it's about 82% of people in USA.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 08:25 AM
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Mizraimites (so-called Egyptians) called themselves “Cham” And if your naming was even a bit correct, you wouldn't call them Mizraimites. Also, bringing the bible studies etymology to this kind of stupid racism doesn't help your cause. I can say that hamburgers are so delicious because God cursed them and now they're a sumbol of gluttony. In the most part of history, most of "nations" existed as very small groups. A village could be in like four different countries in a century and it wouldn't c…
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 08:18 AM
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How would you feel if you didn't have sex at all, because you never had a chance, because everybody was disgusted by you? That's the main difference, not just "had sex".
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 07:52 AM
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Sex isn't a big deal for the people who can get it easily. People telling you that just try to signal their high social status. Same as "money can't buy you happiness" from a millionaire.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 07:34 AM
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Those are not nations. Do you think there were people who self-identified as Hamites because they believed God cursed them?
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 07:32 AM
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If there's no race, why do you keep calling people of different races by the names from a more outdated race theory, which was even worse than the current one?
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 07:12 AM
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Lol. "Light-skinned" isn't as much relative to the other people than "tall". All women can be light-skinned enough for their skin color not affecting their desirability. Most men can't be noticeably taller than the average.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 06:56 AM
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In those scenarios 99% of men either suffer more or die.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 03:22 PM
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If the lower 90% of men aren’t having sex & reproducing then the future generation will face depopulation. No, it won't. One man can easily reproduce with a hundred of women. Problems begin when the women can't work while being pregnant and raising kids, and those problems can be partially solved by the daycare. There's much less jobs that require physical strength now. I think even a society with the 1% of men can survive, though the quality of life won't be the same. As for the sexless men, I …
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 11:01 AM
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r/FA30plus
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 06:57 PM
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My bad, I somehow didn't see the context.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 02:17 PM
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You do remember you're the one who started it, right?
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 11:37 AM
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Says the man who spends his free time by telling the unluckier people about a just world we're living in.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 11:31 AM
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No u.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 11:22 AM
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Of course you do. Everybody is treated equally, and if someone says he isn't, I'll just tell him he's snivelling so he'd shut up and not bother me. Who cares about being treated like shit, having fewer women possibly interested in you, making less money, having much higher risk of suicide? I said everybody is equal, so that's how it really is.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 11:20 AM
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If you haven't seen it, it doesn't mean it's bullshit.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 10:52 AM
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From lived experiences. Being treated like a child is not exactly a thing guys talk about IRL, because it would drop their social status to zero.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 10:31 AM
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Yeah, of course. It doesn't matter if you're tall or short, as long as you're not short.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 08:29 AM
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Oh yes, the healthy and happy lives of middle eastern women.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 07:13 AM
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Could someone please ban this bot?
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 09:30 AM
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We'll cross that bridge when we come to it, I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 01:11 PM
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Yes, she could. And you can just refuse starting the relationships with her, if you think that possibility of this outweighs the benefits. For some people, the option to refuse is a step up.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 12:36 PM
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I agree that you can be screwed over in relationships. But usually having relationships means at least someone considered you worthy of being with (even if it's just to gain something for you). It's basically having some choice against no choice.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 12:09 PM
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Are you implying that Depp is worse off than the guy who had suffered for years before finally killing himself?
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 10:50 AM
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You don't like the relationships you're in, you get out. You don't like the lack of relationships, you're screwed.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 08:59 AM
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That's not true at all. They're consequences of the demographic transition and the economy changes.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 09:10 AM
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In FA-related subs, I've seen several times people mentioning Cumberbatch as "a below average guy who is still famous and loved".
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 07:11 AM
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So you just don't like that people with a lot of negative life experiences choose inaction more often?
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 12:18 PM
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Not by your definition. You can't just outsource responsibility if you define it like that, you'd just be making a different choice and living with the consequences of it. You're also living with the consequences of the others' choices, because you're not omnipotent and the other people affect your life.
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 11:59 AM
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So, it's basically understading that your actions have consequences? All right, that looks like a common knowledge. But now I don't understand the OP's comment that incels just don't like responsibilities. Using your terms, we always have them, incels just choose the way they see as the best one, same as all the other people. Yes, their choice will sometimes be different from yours, because people are different, and the outcomes (and possibilities of those outcomes) won't be the same for differe…
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 11:40 AM
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We understand each other less and less with every comment.
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 07:36 AM
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I mean what I said in my previous comment. If you have your own place, you have the responsibility of paying bills, if you have a car, you'll be responsible if someone driving this car is to blame for a traffic accident. The responsibilities usually come with something nice, because no one would like them on their own. If your boss gives you new responsibilities in your job without a pay raise, you're not "a very responsible person", you're a sucker. And being held responsible for the actions of…
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 07:24 AM
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I don't think we mean the same thing when we're talking about responsibility. If you were given a choice between two options, which would not make any difference at all, but choosing the first one would give you more responsibility, what would you choose?
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 11:02 AM
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they do not like responsibilities Who does? Responsibility is a negative thing on its own. People accept a responsibility willingly only when it's a downside to something very nice. If you have your own place, you have to pay the bills. Liking the responsibility itself is like willing to pay the bills while living on the street.
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 06:59 AM
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What did she do?
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 06:04 AM
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Maybe. So? You're still hating people for what they don't do and ignoring the ones who actually do it.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 08:01 AM
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That't just trolling. I'm literally telling you about chads treating women like shit - yeah, right, let's skip this. But an incel who doesn't do it must be a coward, otherwise he'd fucked her up like a real man!
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 07:12 PM
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Every single time I heard someone using terms like that IRL (not the internet slang, closer to "dumb sluts"), it was a guy who was very successful with women. And it was not only name calling when hanging out with his friends. Basically, when I see a man treating women like shit, I can safely assume he's had a lot of them. It doesn't always work the other way around, if a guy is popular, he absolutely can be a good guy. But when he's an asshole, it's usually because he will have no problem findi…
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 09:39 AM
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At the first look, it appears the child in this picture has no face. But it's actually an optical illusion. If you look closer, you'll see he's just facing away from the camera, and, being a child, is bald.
/r/AllPillDebate06/04/23 07:26 AM
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Easy times create lazy, weak men, men of no value. In a society where everybody has to work their asses off to survive, the only value a usual working guy has is "if you marry him (and you work your ass off too), you probably won't starve". In modern society women have this even without a man. The "strong man of value" you're talking about wouldn't have any value at all now, if he was ugly. There were incels back then too, but... Again, you're repeating the stereotypical bullshit about the incel…
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 06:56 AM
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I'm sorry to say this, but your view of the past is even more idealized than the stereotypical "incel view" that you're bashing. The past wasn't "the glorious time of the Real Men (TM)", the people were just poor, and that's basically it. Most of the societal differences here are the product of economy and technology differences. If you make people very poor, and remove all the welfare, you'll get the same society in a matter of a few generations. Do you really think a coal miner wouldn't change…
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 09:37 AM
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I'd say not only "not customer facing", but "not people facing" job. People (even my colleagues) who have seen me, heard me (apparently I sound just a bit better than I look) or only communicated with me via text treat me very differently, I've noticed it lots of times.
/r/AllPillDebate31/03/23 01:00 PM
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those with female faces and bodies Is this a slang for "women"?
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 03:11 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure about mouth-breathing. None of the sources I could find about it say that mouth-breathing is definitely a cause of bad facial development, not the other way around.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 03:01 PM
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Make a 10/10 out of a 5/10? You'll need surgerymaxxing and Ponzi level frauding for that. Real question is "how do you make an attractive guy out of 2-3/10?"
/r/AllPillDebate23/03/23 11:57 AM
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I'm not sure how it is in everyday speak, but I've only heard "ethnic" about the "brown people" - indians, east asians, maybe arabs.
/r/AllPillDebate23/03/23 11:55 AM
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If you put it that way, we'll have to agree that whites are ethnic too. How can there be a human without ethnicity?
/r/AllPillDebate23/03/23 11:49 AM
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I'm definitely not trying to learn how to shit on others and evade the questions.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 10:06 AM
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Or you can stop pretending to be offended by my cruel words and try to substantiate your claims about responsibility. It's not like you were acting in good faith when you started this.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 09:31 AM
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And now you're steering away from your words. Am I also responsible for it?
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 09:22 AM
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I just thought about the possibility of me being completely wrong. But seriously, I'm always interested how people can turn any topic to the personal responsibility issues. Whatever you do, if you're a loser, that was your choice. The stupid people just chose to be born poor and ugly and deserve to be mocked for it, right?
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 09:15 AM
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So is being ugly a choice or an action? I'm a bit confused.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 08:43 AM
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I don't do that, but I can see two usual reasons. First, some guys are ready to face a lot of rejections if that can bring them a bit of success. Second, they can believe a lie that's constantly told in anti-incel subs - "you just don't notice that she's interested, always take your shot". Of course, it doesn't happen to the guys who are successful with women, but lack of success sometimes makes people desperate.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 07:55 AM
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I mean "no woman gave you the signals she's interested, every woman you meet is repulsed by you or at least not interested at all".
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 06:13 AM
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How is it honesty to imagine all men like that? It's like saying "you'd be a cannibal too, you just don't have spare people around".
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 02:23 PM
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The IOI's are a common topic in incel communities. We definitely know about them. We see them all the time, when women look at the attractive people. You don't seem to understand an even simpler thing. What would you do if no one even gave you those signals? As I see it, there's only two ways: either wait for the one who will show interest in you (which may never happen), or start asking out the girls who are 99% not interested, hoping to meet the 1%. And since both of those ways are quite often…
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 09:36 AM
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You know how people always find a way to rationalize the good-looking guys' horrible decisions? Like "he was misunderstood and lonely", "the victim must have asked for it", and so on? Well, you've just came up with a second half of this mental gymnastics holy grail - a way to hate people for the stuff they never did.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 07:23 AM
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I've read it (and it says they had 2 daughters), and as I understand, before the divorce they were happy with their situation. It doesn't say that keeping their house "impeccable" was his requirement. If they didn't have a special agreement stating that she does all the housekeeping and is entitled to money for doing it, I don't see how it can be fair. He supported her financially for 25 years.
/r/AllPillDebate13/03/23 11:24 AM
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In most families I know, both parents work (except for the maternity leave, of course). It's not that "he was able to work" it's "she was able not to", and now she demands a compensation.
/r/AllPillDebate13/03/23 10:55 AM
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How exactly did he build his business on her housekeeping?
/r/AllPillDebate13/03/23 10:37 AM
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Thankfully not, that's why I'm not that miserable. Literally doing nothing is much better.
/r/AllPillDebate13/03/23 10:09 AM
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Both of the alternatives are quite horrible, but given no other option, I'd prefer wasting a lot of money talking to a guy who doesn't care about me to mutilating my body.
/r/AllPillDebate13/03/23 08:43 AM
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https://www.nber.org/papers/w25863
/r/AllPillDebate12/03/23 04:32 PM
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How exactly a ban on abortions helps people to stay together? I can understand that an abortion can hurt a family, but I think it's way less harmful than a birth of an unwanted child.
/r/AllPillDebate12/03/23 03:00 PM
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Because it's not the only factor affecting the crime rates. Donohue and Levitt (2001) presented evidence that the legalization of abortion in the early 1970s played an important role in the crime drop of the 1990s. That paper concluded with a strong out-of-sample prediction regarding the next two decades: “When a steady state is reached roughly twenty years from now, the impact of abortion will be roughly twice as great as the impact felt so far. Our results suggest that all else equal, legalize…
/r/AllPillDebate12/03/23 02:56 PM
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If you ban abortions, in 20 years you'll be a nation of young criminals whose parents didn't want them.
/r/AllPillDebate12/03/23 01:03 PM
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Exactly, how dares he having such an offensive nose without the others' consent.
/r/AllPillDebate10/02/23 11:25 AM
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/r/AllPillDebate10/02/23 10:56 AM
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First, if we change "the cost of abortion" to "the cost of protection", my point still stands. Those are bullshit arguments to explain having a lot of kids. I started talking about abortions because the commenter above me did. I absolutely agree that not conceiving is better than aborting. But if someone has kids only because there were spiritual aspects to having an abortion, they don't deserve those kids, and I refuse to believe that's the case with the majority of large families. Second, I do…
/r/AllPillDebate03/02/23 06:52 AM
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I think having a child gives enough experience to make better deicisions about having more children. At most, two kids, if the girl in question was very young and dumb. But not like five or more. why do YOU think a massive drop in teen pregnancy means that they'll just have them all later Well, that's usually how it works. The women, who didn't have children when they were teenagers, usually still have them later. It's not like a girl either has a baby when she's 14 or never does.
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 02:17 PM
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Strangely enough, our version of sex ed consisted almost exclusively of learning about STDs. No financial advice at all. Or actual sex advice. Now that I think about it, I can't remember being taught money management at all, but the morons who can't understand how much money they make are still rare. It's almost like the education system has little to do with it. How do you equate teen pregnancies with having a lot of kids? You think if they start earlier they'd have time to make more kids?
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 02:03 PM
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Why do you need sex ed to know if you'd be able to support a child? A quick advice - if you can't afford an abortion, you wouldn't. It's common sense ed.
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 01:41 PM
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I know that being poor is expensive. I also know that the people who can't support kids but still choose to have them are idiots. But then again, even the idiots either uderstand this simple truth after a kid or two, or get their children taken away, because it's basically child abuse. I knew families with a lot of kids (one of my classmates was from family like that, for example). It has nothing to do with the costs of abortions. Even the archaic reason to have a lot of kids for them to financi…
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 01:29 PM
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That's just bullshit. I don't believe someone who can't afford an abortion can support a child instead. Those who can afford neither, use the worse ways to get rid of a child or a fetus. Being from a poor (though not American) family myself, I can say that the societal pressure into having kids affects the poor people much more than the difficulties of abortion. Also, an unrelated note: if you're making a minimum wage here, you either walk or take a bus.
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 01:12 PM
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Even morons know that raising a child costs a bit more than an abortion.
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 12:44 PM
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Really, so why do my knuckles not reach the floor? Where's my full body black hair? Not all the apes are the same. With that logic, you could argue that gorillas aren't apes, because they're too big and different. I'm saying that the human social hierarchy is probably much closer to the apes' one than to the wolves or hens. Nobody uses those terms outside the manosphere. And since the manosphere isn't exactly defined either, it's always true. You just hear the terms and say "oh, the manosphere m…
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 06:51 AM
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>We're not apes. We're humans. Humans are apes. >The public sees the term 'alpha male' and 'beta male' etc. as pathetic and childish. First, why do you think that? I can remember only people caling self-proclaimed "alpha males" pathetic, but not the terminology. Second, the public doesn't spend much time arguing about human social hierarchy, so the terms aren't that useful to them. >It's not entirely over for them but it's the next notch above. I wasn't saying that it's over, I was saying that w…
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 06:26 AM
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Please stop citing this stupid article. "Alphas" and "betas" have been debunked for wolves, but not for apes. You can easily find research on chimpanzee alphas. If anything, the researcher's mistake was attributing the human qualities to the wolves. About using the terms you suggest - most of them are already used, but there's often a need to combine them in order to describe a certain type of man. Do you think it would be better to say "it's over for highly desperate non-confident submissive ug…
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 08:38 AM
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In the wars, the winners would kill all the men and children, but take women as their own. So two men had the kids with the same women, but only one of those men "reproduced". I understand that it doesn't explain such a difference, but can easily shift the difference to, say, 1 men to 10 women. And the tribal structure described in the comment above shifts it again.
/r/AllPillDebate19/01/23 10:56 AM
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