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Discussiontopplingtyranny/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:46 AM
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They don’t have the capability to build as many robots as it would take to replace all labor, especially if the US had to stop importing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:38 AM
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Yes they are complementary to labor. It still wouldn’t make sense because who is going to build the robots? The United States doesn’t have the capability to build all that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:26 AM
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Everyone wants money, but I think there may be different motives for men and women, with some intersection. I don’t think it’s completely binary
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:20 AM
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I’ve been single almost my entire life 😂 I’ve been in a relationship for like a year. I honestly don’t see the point when women have so much power and it’s just not natural. The wealth they control and positions they hold are not sustainable. I can keep beating the same drum - trillions of dollars of debt, drug addiction and overdose, mental illness, homelessness, cost of living, chronic disease, and they’re all INCREASING. The environment is deteriorating, extinctions are increasing. This isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:39 AM
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A real woman would share… with me 💁
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:26 AM
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I think you might have that backwards… I mean it’s usually men getting into wars and fighting them, and I don’t think it’s just for approval. And I think you’re severely underestimating the role that competition anxiety plays in getting women to be promiscuous and ultimately sell sex, because they want approval I personally could not give one single fuck if another man approves of me or not, whatsoever, unless it’s someone I have an established relationship with. I don’t even understand the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:19 AM
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Nah I totally believe it. There are many incentives to do it. Older men get access to much younger women they wouldn’t otherwise have. Women in circumstances notorious for being less than lucrative get quick easy spending money for minimal effort. Privacy, they can stop at any time and their reputation will be mostly unaffected. No “middle man” necessary to establish trust with. It’s mainstream now; there’s no taboo. It’s like social media but much easier to make fast cash with (the Uberization …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:13 AM
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It wasn’t about most people, it was about a subset of a subset (girls in college)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:05 AM
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But the supply of labor makes it nearly impossible unless you simply banned paid labor. There will always be people willing to work for less than the costs of producing a robot. You don’t seem to really grasp the material conditions of people who do menial labor for pay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:36 AM
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I don’t think they will be replaced, it will just become a tool. If white collar jobs were replaced that would increase demand for blue collar jobs. You would have to assume that software could be created that will always outperform every human, but given the constraints are not easily defined, like the rules in a board game, I doubt that will ever happen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:33 AM
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Except it isn’t free, it costs money to build a robot, I literally just mentioned that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:13 AM
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Physical tasks. You want them to replace labor. Computers already do everything you listed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:12 AM
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Pfffft what? Do you expect me to fuck the 99% of men Yes. 👦🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:09 AM
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It’s not cost efficient, especially when demanding labor is mostly done by the poor and there is no incentive for them to stop doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:00 AM
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Even if possible we are nowhere near that capability, but I don’t think the benefits will ever outweigh the costs. There will never be a task that a robot will be superior at, and yet the cost of producing a human will probably always be lower than the cost of producing a humanlike robot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:59 AM
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I personally don’t care at this point, but women are destroying the economy, and by extension they will drag the government down with it, along with natural and human habitats. Women can gloat all they want, the data doesn’t lie and women will suffer more when it happens. Men tend to thrive much more when confronted by challenge and chaos 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:54 AM
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There are many reasons why technological progress should continue… human evolution, revitalization of habitats, and simply social change because it tends to have positive effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:51 AM
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Because robots can only complete predefined tasks. If all tasks become predefined then technological progress is essentially halted, and we arrive at technofeudalism a la Klaus Schwab
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:48 AM
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If we are assuming society advances, robots will complement labor, not replace it. There are demands right now not being met due to market forces, like housing, which can be assisted by automation, but assuming advancement, should also enable previously unviable projects. If society stops advancing, it will most likely be due to efforts to automate everything
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:41 AM
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Contemporary definition (propaganda)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:36 AM
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I would call that globalization not globalism. I think of globalism more of like global central planning which is not quite the same thing. Globalism may facilitate globalization but I think globalization can also happen independent of globalism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:30 AM
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🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:07 AM
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Whatever you say larping trash
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:28 AM
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Trash
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:26 AM
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Sounds like Jew talk. Literally white Americans are just like Jews.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:24 AM
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You’re a white American and not an immigrant larping loser
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:23 AM
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You’re not an immigrant, you’re a lying white American larping as an immigrant. It’s diverse because it keeps brown and black people overwhelmingly poor, profiting off their labor and mass incarceration
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:38 AM
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The United States allows upward mobility for people they’ve preselected only to portray inclusivity and hide the fact that white households have far more wealth than non immigrant POC, despite no evidence that they work harder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:37 AM
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Why do you people larp so much? So fake and uncultured, literally only care about one single thing, living off other peoples labor and increasing your own wealth at the expense of others while doing literally nothing and being good at nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:09 AM
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Marxist who frequents wallstreetbets and NFL subreddit. The dissonance is palpable and you are so very obviously a white American from a long line of white Americans. You are the definition of white privilege. Investing in the stock market while preaching Marxism to increase your white privilege. And only a white American who speaks English fluently enough to participate here would be interested in the NFL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:07 AM
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Throwaway account is clearly BS. I come from an immigrant family and have been to multiple countries, and have lived in Europe. The US is a stankhole. The only benefit to living in the US is either being of pure white Western European descent, a poor immigrant who scored a massive pay raise, or from a very shitty oppressed country that is likely the result of western intervention
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:03 AM
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The white privilege is loud and clear
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:31 PM
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Nope never said that either. You asked why men do something and women don’t under the same circumstances, and I simply told you what the determining factor is. The implication that women don’t do anything evil because it manifests in different ways is a joke. You are a joke and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:29 PM
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No it didn’t, you’re literally talking in circles now. Leadership requires socialization, so a leader would necessarily be exempt from a lack of socialization. Literally just said this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:21 PM
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I didn’t make any observations about the health of people who engage in terrorism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:19 PM
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What logic? You are the one who suggested men shouldn’t lead due to perceived flaws. The logic we are discussing is yours. I simply made an observation, and you made a conclusion out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:18 PM
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No, literally no one said that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:17 PM
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That’s the implication of your statement. Men are flawed, thus women should lead. If the logic is that men shouldn’t lead BECAUSE they are flawed, the implication of saying that women should lead is that they aren’t flawed. This isn’t difficult to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:14 PM
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No, you asked why men are more susceptible to terrorism due to loneliness, which I believe you to mean isolation, and I said because of hormones. Women will literally have urges to kill their own babies due to hormones, it’s called post partum depression; sounds like they shouldn’t be in leadership roles either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:12 PM
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Rather than make asinine arguments like men shouldn’t lead because they are flawed and women should because they’re perfect, let’s rather explore what happens when white people have the most wealth and power, because women have had power in varying degrees for thousands of years, and there’s no evidence that it’s ever solved anything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:07 PM
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Leadership by nature is a social role. When you talk about the connection between terrorism and “loneliness,” I presume you are referring to a lack of socialization, which is not a problem innate to leadership roles. The implication of your argument is that men can’t lead because they are flawed, also implying that women are perfect and have no flaws. Do you really want to sound this dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:01 PM
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But I didn’t say that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:56 PM
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That’s a subjective judgment. What makes them better?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:03 PM
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A more recent (2020) girlpowermarketing article puts the number at 60% with multiple sources cited but no links
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:11 AM
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This Forbes article links to this Federal Reserve page which has too much data for me to go over right now. I don’t know why all these sources would be lying though, especially when this is hardly reported on by the major news outlets
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:04 AM
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Found it: https://www.bmo.com/privatebank/pdf/Q1-2015-Wealth-Institute-Report-Financial-Concerns-of-Women.pdf As accurately reported, women controlled a majority of wealth and held a majority of management positions in 2015 which was expected to grow
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:07 AM
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BMO Report: Despite Controlling $14 Trillion in Wealth, American Women Still Have Challenges to Overcome -Women are the primary breadwinners in over 40 percent of American households but only earn 78 cents for every dollar a man makes -Two thirds of primary caregivers are women -The challenges many women face in their personal and professional lives can have negative consequences for their finances CHICAGO, ILLINOIS--(Marketwired - April 2, 2015) - According to a report released today by the BMO…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:03 AM
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Yeah you never know when newspapers just randomly make up studies that never happened
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:59 AM
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This is social media. You’re not writing a thesis here 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:53 AM
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Business Insider is as credible a source as any newspaper. It’s not a blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:51 AM
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Yeah I said there is. Here is the link: http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/bmo-report-despite-controlling-14-trillion-wealth-american-women-still-have-challenges-tsx-bmo-2006436.htm But as I already said, the study was taken down
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:47 AM
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The study is linked in the article but they took it down quickly after I posted it to social media in 2019. The article accurately summarizes what the study said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:44 AM
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How do you feel that women control a majority of wealth in the US? Source Do you think women are oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:32 AM
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I actually get where you’re coming from, even though there may be some confusion. I think you’re saying you were so comfortable with it that you didn’t even mind recreating it. I think the distinction matters and yeah, they might have thought you were too comfortable. Like they want you to grudgingly accept it, not be so comfortable that you want them to do the same thing they described. I think that’s very much correct, it’s not entirely black and white, there’s a balance they want you to have,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:17 PM
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It’s over for you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:07 PM
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No I didn’t 😂😂😂 nothing I have written in this thread is about appearing confident. Usually you meet a person before dating them. If you are talking about people you meet on dating apps, I can’t help you. Dating apps for women are like what sex workers are to men. They may not realize it, but the dynamic is about as similar as it gets given the differences between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:59 PM
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obviously i am paraphrasing care about with get to know I still never said anything about “seeming confident.” There’s a difference between being intimidated and being insecure to an outside observer being confident and seeming confident are the same thing. That’s a catch-22. If it’s true how could you possibly know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:34 PM
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you have to seem confident when you talk to women Not what I said. I said to have confidence in yourself, not to seem confident when talking to women get to know her and she wont judge you for not seeming confident I never said that either? You have to talk to women to get to know them how do you know her so she wont judge you when you talk to her for the first time? I never said that 😂😂😂 I said you are more likely fixated on sex and that’s why you get the cold shoulder
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:28 PM
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Honestly I have no clue what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:16 PM
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So you don’t have conversations with dates or you have conversations with everyone on the train?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:00 PM
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Observing or even acknowledging someone’s existence is not “meeting” them. Meeting implies at least an introduction, and suggests at least some exchange of thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:59 PM
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You aren’t meeting all those people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:58 PM
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But they do because it establishes status. That matters for men maybe not so much for women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:58 PM
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Do you work in the service industry or something? How many people could you possibly meet every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:57 PM
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By being a decent person
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:38 PM
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I see what you’re saying but I think I disagree. I think mental resilience plays a role, and the people I see with the most insecurity seem to be, by all means, physiologically normal, as you put it. I think people with physical disability may be less fixated on their insecurities for a variety of reasons. One is mental resilience developed from living with the disability itself, and the other is that they may be spared from a lot of griefing they may have otherwise received had they not been ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:53 PM
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Chad fishing doesn’t back up your claim. There’s no evidence that the women the Chad fisher attracts would be perceived as equally attractive, hence why I supplied an alternative hypothesis that they are simply exploiting insecurity. You disregarded the alternative explanation with no evidence at all to support your claim. The studies you cited provided evidence that your claim may be true for interactions one way between men and women, but don’t provide evidence it goes both ways. Again, why I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:44 PM
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This is not exposing insecurities, this is showing how people are much more tolerant of attractive people, and it has nothing to do with insecurity, on the contrary, an insecure woman would be afraid of the man on the Chadfishing profile. 100% conjecture supported by no data at all, not even anecdotal. It is fine to make assertions that are purely conjecture, but it does not comprise an argument in any sense And at no point have I advocated that "all women", I'm saying this is a standard type of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:30 PM
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In a general sense, that may be true, but still not quite the same. I’m referring to a specific case scenario. Maybe you aren’t needy or insecure in general but are overly concerned with how one particular person perceives you. It doesn’t necessarily have to be an insecurity but rather a fixation, and the fixation is not what’s being “mirrored”. I think that’s a good clarification to make. A fixation on her perception or opinion affects the outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:13 PM
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As far as individual testing goes, Chadfishing is one thing that has demonstrated this; I don’t think exposing women’s insecurities validates the claim. It’s more likely due to the fact that the particular women being affected perceive “chad” as being more attractive than they are, but it probably doesn’t work on a woman who isn’t insecure As far as formal science is concerned, it has been proven that attractive people are perceived more positively and the Halo effect. This has also been analyze…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:04 PM
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No I’m talking about being overly concerned with acceptance. If you are fixated on external validation then I think you are less likely to receive it, what I mean by the “observer effect.” The act of attempting to gauge how much she accepts or validates you affects the outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:40 PM
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I think it could seem that way if you are being disingenuous. If you are pretending to be interested in a woman just to get laid, and she senses it and doesn’t appreciate it, you may very well get the cold shoulder. If you have a genuine care and concern for a woman, I don’t think she is likely to judge you harshly for feeling intimidated by her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:34 PM
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A confident incel when approaching a woman will tend to be seen as a scary pervert, because he is ugly. On the other hand, a Chad will be seen as a man of attitude or as a romantic man. This depends on the notion that attractiveness is objectively determined and I know that’s a popular idea on the internet, especially in black pill circles, but there’s no actual evidence to support it. I used this example before and I’ll use it again. Some people say pugs are ugly but others swear they are cute.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:25 PM
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Idk what you mean by “subject” or physiological normality. Of course anyone is subjected to outside influence in society and how does physiological abnormality prevent it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:10 PM
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I’ll give you another analogy, from the Bible: Shortly before dawn Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. 26 When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. “It’s a ghost,” they said, and cried out in fear. 27 But Jesus immediately said to them: “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid.” 28 “Lord, if it’s you,” Peter replied, “tell me to come to you on the water.” 29 “Come,” he said. Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. 30 But …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:05 AM
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Sure thing well I guess it’s over for you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:44 AM
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Virtue signaling, gossip, “networking”, social media, visibility, presence, being “popular”, they def still compete, probably even more socially than I guess the “mainstream” which is more about excelling I think
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:42 AM
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It is though. I feel like you’re commenting on TV life and not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:40 AM
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You don’t, that’s the natural state. You just don’t fuck it up by being insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:33 AM
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No I don’t think so at all. I think confidence is the natural state of humans and is only eroded by negative external influence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:11 AM
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Sounds like you’re coming up with roundabout ways to describe insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:00 AM
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No, I was agreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:57 AM
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No one said anything about intoxication 😂😂😂😂 the whole reply is a hilarious amount of projection
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:56 AM
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It’s over for you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:49 AM
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If you love yourself you shouldn’t need her validation. Looks aren’t everything. There are things you’re better at than her. That should be a source of confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:30 AM
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That’s what I’m talking about. When I was really sort of innocent and naive and just liked doing things for myself without caring about “success” or other peoples opinions is when I attracted the most girls
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:26 AM
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But even in the highest echelons of society, there’s a lot of fakeness and there’s even a term for successful people who don’t feel confident: imposter syndrome. You can be unsuccessful and still confident. Gang members are a typical example. Many are not traditionally successful people, quite the opposite even, but they can still exude confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:24 AM
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I may have not fully explained how I perceive the process as working, as I intended to start a discussion. I wasn’t seeking criticism for the sake of criticism, but I don’t think your points are entirely invalid. I am not saying that the act of portraying confidence in itself imposes a state in a woman’s mind that leads to a positive outcome. What I am saying is that taking a measurement, or to use an analogy, looking behind Dr. Oz’s proverbial curtain, is somewhat counterproductive to a positiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:19 AM
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Clearly I referred to a positive feedback loop at the end of the post but that was only tangentially related. This is also not describing optimism bias because a bias is a faulty judgement that leads to erroneous conclusions. I will explain what I’m getting at in a separate reply
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:59 AM
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Yeah I don’t think it’s good advice to be disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:12 AM
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If obsession over penis size is what you consider substantive, maybe you have some repressed urges
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:10 AM
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Well it’s not twitter
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:59 AM
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There’s a reason Palestinians are under attack, it’s because division and conquest is effective, and it happens anywhere people are given arbitrary power over others. Palestinians are under attack because they’re probably the most sociable group of people in the world, perhaps the last “truly social” for the sake of actually loving others and not just faking it for material gain Ergo, in countries that are relatively insulated from outside attack, forced separation probably becomes more common. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:14 AM
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Then why are marriage rates consistently falling? Every time you people come up with excuses and justifications, you fail to address all the relevant correlations. We can go even further and ask why chronic disease is on the rise, homelessness, drug addiction and overdose, things that they call “diseases of despair.” If loneliness isn’t rising also, that would be a statistical anomaly, since many of these issues are probably interrelated
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:08 AM
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I suppose you can, but I wouldn’t recommend breastfeeding a teenager
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:39 AM
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The easiest way to be unfuckable is to not take care of yourself. Looks are subjective. Some people say pugs are ugly, some say they are cute, but the popularity of the breed cannot be denied. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I guarantee that if you don’t take care of your physical health then you will definitely be less attractive to people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:07 PM
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But if you’re not getting married, starting a family, buying a house together, taking care of each other in old age, things of that nature, I still don’t understand the point other than just being friends with benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:06 AM
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Nope not at all. Just say you have no game
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:01 AM
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Ok, how’s that different than any other kind of relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:51 AM
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Why would I feel worse about myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:35 AM
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I still don’t see the point if you have nothing to work towards long term. Like just not being lonely? Just to have someone around? Sounds needy, I would rather set my own agenda every day
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:44 AM
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So friends with benefits then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:42 AM
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I guess things go back to how they were before it started
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:28 AM
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What is the data on longevity of relationships between people who never have children, though? You mention they’re happier after children have moved away, but most people are also usually reluctant to start hard work, yet are satisfied when they finish. This is the duality of life. Without the negative, there is no positive. I’m curious what your relationship status is, because your perspective sounds unrealistic and naive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:47 AM
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I haven’t noticed any correlation between promiscuity and superficiality. You brought up promiscuity; I didn’t mention anything about it. I also didn’t mention anything about being fake. It’s more of a sociological phenomenon that men are generally less mentally tough due to less competition for territory and resources than there has been in the past, and probably for dietary and nutritional reasons as well. You don’t have to be fake to realize society is largely fake. I would argue it’s more re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:33 AM
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Yes, I understand that, and I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, it’s because of social media and dating apps. When dating took place entirely face to face, it was easier for men to take more risks and women were less defensive, for a variety of reasons. One of those is because it’s very easy for “average” men to be passed up on dating apps, and it’s easier for “above average” men to be duplicitous online. I’m a millennial, I went to high school before social media existed. Teenagers toda…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:25 AM
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Yeah but girls also talk a lot and they probably knew I was a virgin. I think they were half joking but I know I still could have hit 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:12 AM
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When I was still a virgin, I had multiple girls straight up telling me they wanted to fk, but I didn’t because I was blue pilled. One girl I found more attractive than anyone else literally dropped her panties right in front of me as we made out, the first time we met after talking online for a while. I went to see her with the intention of dating, but we had sex within like two hours. I’ve been told I’m attractive but honestly I don’t have the best stats on paper, I just kept high standards for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:04 AM
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I can tell you are a man. You don’t have to be terribly attractive, you just have to be a sympathetic character and present yourself as having self worth. That’s literally all. The obstacle is all mental. Anyone can do it if they have the right preparation, practice, and attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:58 AM
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Yeah like I said, I rarely meet women with similar interests and the ones that do have them I think have usually inherited them from other men, implying they aren’t available
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:52 AM
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I can’t 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:51 AM
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Yeah sorry I just don’t see what’s so fulfilling about doing the same things every day with the same person, unless there’s a greater purpose behind it, like raising kids
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:50 AM
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Red pill means accepting harsh reality over ignorant bliss. It’s more about rebuffing the popular sentiment in modern media (especially Hollywood movies) that the pretty nice popular girl will choose the nerd over the toxic bully for his pure intentions and character. I would call self improvement more red pill because it focuses on superficial characteristics that modern media tells us women aren’t that interested in. It’s more red pill to believe women are interested in superficial features an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:46 AM
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No, blue pill is more about believing women fall in love with you for your personality and character, not your appearance and presentation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:30 AM
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Opportunity cost. A man who tries to present himself as “relationship material” will most likely just come off as boring and she’ll sleep with someone else who comes off as exciting. I mean we tend to approach people romantically that we have sexually attraction to, so if she sleeps with someone else instead of you, it’s a lost opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:28 AM
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Is there any empirical evidence to back this up? Maybe straight men and straight women tend have different interests? I know that’s not a popular sentiment in 2023, but I haven’t met any women who are terribly interested in the things I’m interested in. I think that social media may have distorted reality somewhat in this regard. Like because we see girls playing the same video games guys do, we assume that’s a natural occurrence and she isn’t only playing the game because she’s already attached…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:22 AM
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Yeah dudes can be shady, I avoid guys who act too friendly and shut down, but I’m way more outgoing with guys who are unfriendly. People judge me but guys are just weird
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:56 AM
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Ohh actually you know what, I think I have been fetishized. This girl in my high school Spanish class would always tell me how she wanted to fuck me like staring straight in my eyes. She was older and taller and had D cups. I never did it because I was so naive and blue pilled, I have spent the rest of my life regretting it quite frankly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:39 AM
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You’d be surprised… or maybe you wouldn’t 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:29 AM
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Why does it seem the opposite for me in all my experiences? All my life, women have been far more willing to get the pipe once or twice than to settle down in a committed relationship. Even when I’ve gone out of my way to try, it’s like they actively sabotage it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:27 AM
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That’s me but I’m also beautiful if I do say so myself 🤩
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:23 AM
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Black is the new purple 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:20 AM
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Nonsense anyone can reproduce if they really want to, I mean other than those who physically can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:18 AM
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Gonna need to have a revolution before an individual can contribute anything significant I think. I know people have their personal heroes I just don’t think any of them are real
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:17 AM
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Once I tried a thing out with a girl that was at least a couple points below what I even attracted just randomly. I tried to start a thing with her because she was clingy but not in a terrible way, like she didn’t need to have me around, she just wanted to be around me. It didn’t go well
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:15 AM
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Fitness is a really effective approach in my opinion. If you don’t have a ton of bills to worry about and plenty of spare time, fitness is the way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:13 AM
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Well realistically simply being in a relationship with a woman isn’t very fulfilling in and of itself anyway. If you want to have fulfilling relationships then you should make a family, and you could always boost your status by looking for a wife overseas. You just have to get some babies out before her mind has a chance to wander
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:12 AM
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Passport bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:10 AM
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Well I’ve had women say they love me and still treat me like shit, so I can’t say I’ve experienced feeling loved and adored. Even my mom’s love is very toxic. She has never accompanied her obsession with any amount of respect or consideration for my feelings. That’s why I feel like being fetishized could actually be an upgrade! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:09 AM
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Oh definitely. Expecting something to last a lifetime sounds like a naive fantasy by this point in my life. She would have to be absolutely obsessed and totally in love with me, and I’ve only experienced anything like that from my mom 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:03 AM
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As long as it’s a woman fetishizing me, hell yeah that sounds fun and different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:59 AM
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Entirely random? Which positive traits do women not prefer? If we can categorize positive traits and rate them on a scale, then your argument loses effectiveness. It means that there is at least some predictability in dating. In fact, studies have repeatedly shown that socioeconomic status is a major predictor of mating success for men. The lower the socioeconomic status, the less likely he is to have any sexual partners at all. I don’t know if the inverse is equally true, but I would be willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:05 AM
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No I don’t have to prove anything 😂😂😂😂 it is self evident communist revolutions have only been successful in relatively homogenous countries. You are moving the goalposts now to “socialist current” whatever tf that means 😂😂😂 which African country is the model of socialism that you think is successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:01 AM
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Any country with a population above literally 1 has some genetic diversity, obviously. But since this is a finite planet, and all social interactions are not the result of random phenomena, it is common sense that when one refers to homogeneity, it’s RELATIVE to the homogeneity of other countries. You’re trying to have it both ways, responding to my arguments that are obviously in reference to RELATIVE homogeneity, but rebut with an argument that treats it as absolute. That’s not how anything wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:53 AM
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Yeah I’m not one of those people, but obviously the more children one wants to have, the earlier they should start. Like if someone wants 4 kids, they probably shouldn’t wait until their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:48 AM
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The burden of proof isn’t on me, it’s on communists, that’s why I say just prove it and start your revolution. There is no revolution because it’s IMPOSSIBLE. When you can identify a single country in which a communist revolution has succeeded with as much genetic diversity as the US, then show me. And that’s just genetics. You wanna introduce languages and religions? Sure, right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:43 AM
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Genetics is not a real science anymore 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:31 AM
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Again, we are talking about a SINGLE country having a communist revolution. China is relatively homogenous because the genetic difference between their most disparate populations is significantly smaller than the genetic difference between the most disparate populations in the US. ITS AN OBJECTIVE FACT. You can cry about it all you want with your wahhh yankee culture, it’s not my fault you can’t distinguish fact from opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:27 AM
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“Yankee culture” 😂😂😂😂 sounds like white audacity to me. Russia is relatively homogenous, fact. China is relatively homogenous, fact. Even Cuba is relatively homogeneous compared to the United States, though I don’t think it was a real revolution at all. The idea that the United States can invade almost any country they want but is scared of entering a small island country that can easily be blockaded is just laughable, but again, white people think they know fuckin everything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:20 AM
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Yeah I went over a couple messages ago how Mexico was colonized by Spain, and the United States continues exploiting it which also continues racism. What are you even arguing? You’re the one who said the United States exploits Spanish racism. Spain left Mexico a long time ago, it’s not Spanish anymore, it’s American. Russia isn’t a multiracial country. I specifically said multiracial and multicultural. The world doesn’t work that way because the world revolves around white supremacy and white pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:15 AM
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I think it’s more common with higher and lower socioeconomic status, and less in the middle. 2% sounds pretty low. I don’t trust self reported statistics, especially when “sex work” can mean a lot of things. Does sleeping with all the executives of a company for a job promotion count as “sex work”? I’m sure the subject would want to deny that it is, but I doubt the competitors for that position would see it the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:54 AM
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Spaniards are in Spain, what does that have to do with racism in Latin America? The United States exploits Latin America period. If the US is a racist country (it is) and exploits other countries through neocolonialism, there’s no reason to expect racism wouldn’t spread to those countries also. You still haven’t named a multiracial and multicultural country where a communist revolution has succeeded. And correct, it’s not about convincing anyone, because your ideas are braindead for starters, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:50 AM
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Yeah and I mentioned they all have a colonial past that the US still exploits. Go ahead and start your communist revolution if it’s so viable. All you people do is talk online when it should be so easy if it’s really viable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:14 PM
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Racial conflict in Latin America is downstream of racial tribalism in the United States. The US has dominated the region for centuries and they all have a colonial past that the US exploits. I think I probably know more than you do considering I have very recent Latin American immigrant ancestry. Serbia and Bosnia are two different countries, which brings a different dynamic to the discussion. We are talking about a single country that is multiracial and multicultural
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:05 PM
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But Cuba is an integrated country. That’s like claiming any Latin country is “multiracial”. What I mean by multiracial is a significant amount of people who are a singular race, either genetically or by self identification, not people who are mixed race. The United States is a tribal country when miscegenation is still largely taboo. The countries you mentioned don’t have that issue because it was either never taboo or the predominant populations were established before it could ever be addresse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:48 PM
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Which one of those is multiracial and multicultural?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:39 PM
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It’s not a dating subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:30 PM
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Yeah not because ifs more profitable, because they’re evading law enforcement. Meanwhile the rich and powerful do the same without going through the same trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:56 PM
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That’s actually untrue lmao it is less profitable if it were legalized. The only real benefit is for women already doing it that don’t want to get caught
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:51 PM
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Well the US is a very tribal country, and people who I think are more like me tend to group in one small region, but due to current circumstances, I can’t leave where I live at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:10 PM
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But such notions get hundreds of thousands if not millions of endorsements on social media, and social media is far more representative, I think, than anything portrayed by corporate media
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:08 PM
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Weird that women oppose it so strongly yet so many predators go unnoticed for so long. It’s also weird how so many feminists and other women castigate conservatives when they talk about their opposition to sex work. They usually come back with the refrain “sex work is work,” and I don’t see much vocal opposition from young women, if any at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:01 PM
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I literally just said I have socialized a lot. I went to church and school like millions of other people, I’ve traveled to many countries and have lived overseas. I’ve talked to enough people to know that no one in the US really has anything substantive to offer me. It’s a country in steep decline that only really exists to fund foreign countries and interests, and many don’t really care
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:57 PM
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And back then marriage and two parent households were more common. I understand decline in marriage and two parent households doesn’t necessitate an increase in sex work, but prevalence of marriage and two parent households does sort of rule out any increase in sex work. In other words, there is an indication that sex work could be more common. I’m willing to bet that it absolutely is. Can I prove it? No, but who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:55 PM
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I have done lots of socialization. I find it becoming increasingly more repetitive. No one wants to talk about anything new or significant, and if they do, it’s just to hear themselves talk and they don’t listen at all. People want to go outside less, be less active, physically and mentally, like I said, it’s just not for me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:52 PM
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I don’t socialize with anyone. I think religion is useless and a scam, I think government is useless and a scam, I think college is a scam, I think everyone at work is pretty miserable because they’re being ripped off. Tbh I just don’t think the US is a good place to make friends at all. It’s only a good place to work, if you’re an immigrant or part of the preferred demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:36 PM
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No one said they do, but if women are equal at performing all previously required functions of the economy, why do college degrees have higher diminishing returns as more women graduate compared to men, and why is the trade deficit increasing at the same time? If they aren’t equally proficient at the same tasks previously required in the economy, how are they making up the deficit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:33 PM
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But marriage and two parent households were also more common whereas marriage is becoming increasingly less common and single parent households more common
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:14 PM
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Not to mention the fact that the most viewed content on social media seems pretty heavily sexualized. And more news reports of women using onlyfans to pay bills. These are just the ones we know of 😂😂😂😂 I am pretty sure MOST of them don’t want to be discovered and reported on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:12 PM
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It’s all throughout news reports, people like Jeffrey Epstein. Schools reporting teachers, churches reporting priests and pastors. I’m sure their victims are compensated in exchange for silence and it works considering some of these people have hundreds of victims before being caught
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:11 PM
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Depends on the system, but if it’s just religious/cultural enforcement, I don’t see that as tyrannical as the current police state
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:00 PM
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Not sure how that relates to anything I said. Are you talking about communism? Which multiracial multicultural country has had a communist revolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:55 PM
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Not according to people I’ve heard from, including actual pimps. It may not be done exclusively for money, but it can be done for other types of compensation including drugs, job offers, promotions, even for grades in school
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:54 PM
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What’s ironic about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:37 PM
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But again you’re ignoring the dilemma of an expanding sex market. If participation in the selling of sex continues to increase by one gender over the other, there are fewer options available for the other gender. It’s not about whether I want relationships to be transactional, it’s about whether relationships are made more transactional by the collective decisions of society
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:36 PM
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It’s just not gonna happen. If authoritarianism comes to the US it will most likely be in the form of Islam which I am just as much opposed to. But yeah I just don’t see what you do with African Americans in a Christian nationalist or fascist country or whatever because they won’t cooperate and neither will their allies. It is too cost prohibitive to lock as many up as you would need to. I think you’d have to deport millions of people if you tried to reinstate slavery. The government is already …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:31 PM
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This isn’t Europe and you have no solution for the African Americans you brought as slaves. You can be a cringey authoritarian but authoritarianism in America will self destruct pretty quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:21 PM
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Plus I’m actually libertarian lol I think at this point if you try to force such a drastic change, there will be negative side effects. The problem is not so much the production of porn or even sex work itself as much as the distribution of resources by the government
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:18 PM
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I believe porn is more of a symptom than the cause. Porn is like the tip of the iceberg of the sex work industry imo. I don’t think most sex workers want to be on camera
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:15 PM
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If the popularity of sex work continually increases, and if sex work is generally more lucrative for one gender than the other, then the cost of entering a relationship not based on commodification of sex is continually increased and the benefit continually reduced for the gender sex work is less lucrative for. I feel like I’m being pretty clear, and not sure that rephrasing it helps any
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:10 PM
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Right but that doesn’t address the dilemma I described in my original post. If there’s a large gender disparity in the production and consumption of sexual services as a market good and if the production of those services is expanding over time, then one gender is left with fewer and fewer options for a relationship that isn’t based on the commodification of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:50 PM
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The underlying assumption is that I have a partner. Without self disclosing, what if I did view it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:39 PM
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I don’t understand how one can even begin to discuss the topic without addressing the reality of sex being a commodity. It is self-evident by the fact that a pornography industry exists. Once it is acknowledged, the disparity between production and consumption by gender must be addressed, as well as the change over time in the proportion of the population that engages in the sales of sexual services in return for financial compensation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:29 PM
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Because women have different hormones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:12 PM
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Bet you’re a swiftie too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:00 PM
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“College educated” means you paid for a paper. She has the right instincts. It’s not about oneself in isolation, it’s the fact that there is always a newer alternative to you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:58 PM
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This is actually deceptive because a significant proportional increase in relatively low fertility rate is not going to offset a significant proportional decrease in relatively high fertility rate. Kinda how math works
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:57 PM
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Have you seen the statistics on chronic disease, homelessness, drug addictions and overdoses, inequality, public debt, and college graduates by gender per year? I wonder if there are any correlations. I’m sure all those Ivy League experts have already sufficiently studied this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:54 PM
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I’m gonna guess socioeconomic status is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:47 PM
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I get it, it’s just not a hill I’m going to die on when I already know this is a subject the modern scientific community has no interest in investigating
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:32 AM
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Says the inceltears and two X chromosome subredditor 🥴 bitterness defines you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:06 PM
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I’ve never needed a SO to help “solve” a problem. I might need help executing the solution, but I have literally never required help figuring out the solution to a dilemma. Just listening, smiling, and looking pretty would be a significant upgrade to combative, judgmental, and/or indifferent. Would I like someone with a personality who expresses themselves and isn’t just a robot? Yes, however modern women are adapted to modern society, and in my experience they tend to express themselves in ways…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:34 PM
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Lack of evidence doesn’t constitute evidence. A peer reviewed study actually doesn’t need to be conducted for a claim to be true. It may be impossible to prove, but that doesn’t make it untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:25 PM
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Submissive to me just means not argumentative, not disagreeable, and not disloyal. It doesn’t mean staying quiet and never speaking your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:19 PM
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No we went over this, the peer reviewed study showed it had STEADILY INCREASED since 2009, there was no random spike that just disappeared
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:17 PM
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But you randomly brought up sex, and provided no explanation why multiple reliable sources would contradict yours, including a PEER REVIEWED STUDY. You say online activity indicates nothing, but in combination with PEER REVIEWED STUDIES, the fact that men commit suicide 4 times more than women, the fact that women are now the majority of college graduates, the fact that even the CDC has called loneliness an epidemic, I don’t understand what your agenda is. There is far far more evidence contrary…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:15 PM
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Of course online activity alone doesn’t say a whole lot, but when peer reviewed studies say the same thing, that’s pretty indicative of a problem. You can say whatever you want, it’s pretty obvious you are just a single mom in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:11 PM
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You’re definitely not married judging by the focus of your posts. You can pretend all you want, it’s clear you’re a single mom
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:08 PM
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How is sexlessness a moral panic? Moral panic would be the opposite. Also a peer reviewed study is just going to be a superior source in pretty much every circumstance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:07 PM
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Even if true, and I don’t know that it is, the discussion wasn’t about all homosexuality but a specific interpretation of the intent behind it. I don’t understand why it matters, like who pays to hear about this stuff? What difference does it make whether it was prevalent or not? The only reason I can think that it matters to anyone is because they want to convince others to do it. That’s a firm negative for me, and always will be. There is absolutely nothing I find attractive about men, never h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:27 AM
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What are facts? You asked me a question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:59 PM
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Idk and idc tbh. I am curious though why so many women seem to be so interested in something that doesn’t even involve them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:39 PM
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So was it: A) single mom B) cat lady C) both
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:03 PM
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So you’re actually implying that most people are paired between one man and one woman, but yet there’s an abundance of online activity that suggests that isn’t true at all. You even participate in a forum called IncelTears, which seems pretty cruel and sadistic if you actually believe what you’re saying. But it’s doubtful you believe any of the bs you say. It seems more likely to me that these are the actions of a jaded …. who hates men because you knowingly and repeatedly had intercourse with p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:00 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7293001/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:55 PM
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Because everyone isn’t gay. Same thing as saying rape isn’t rape because she wanted it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:43 PM
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Single mom or cat lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:32 PM
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I’m gonna posit my own theory here, you’re a cat lady who couldn’t stop rewarding the guy that continuously cheated on you, so now gaslighting other young men gives you some kind of schadenfreude because it’s easier to blame an entire gender than take any sort of personal responsibility for your own shitty decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:28 PM
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Again I have to ask, wtf is even your agenda when NOBODY even mentioned sex??? You clearly have an ulterior motive in positing an alternative narrative and I can’t even imagine why, but it seems like pretty shitty behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:24 PM
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Literally every other source is reporting differently and honestly the logic is absurd. Every other source says sexlessness has steadily increased since 2009. You said the only reason it decreased at all was because of Covid, which obviously cant be true if a peer reviewed study says differently! And the idea that sex was suddenly increase massively after forced separation among young people is even more absurd when young people require socialization the most during critical years of development…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:22 PM
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Of course I think all groups that are more genetically alike than different are distinct from groups that are more different than alike
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:27 PM
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Literallly everyone is wrong. The female sex/gender is inherently more inclusive. It’s how their brains are wired to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:08 PM
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Yeah but that excludes everyone who isn’t, you know, European, which is the majority of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:06 PM
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Speak for yourself. Btw this is a low key r4pist attitude that I’ve heard repeatedly and needs to be called out for what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:05 PM
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I guess college is even more useless than I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:26 PM
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Nobody wants to hear about your problems bruh, sorry to break it to you. You got severe mental issues. The world is not your trauma dumping ground. If you don’t want a solution to your problem then find something more productive to do with your time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:25 PM
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You just keep proving my point. Go to college or something. Correlation does not prove causation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:24 PM
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Complaining just to be heard, not seeking an actual resolution. You’re already convinced there is no solution, so why the fk do you keep going on about it? This isn’t normal male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:20 PM
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You’re right, it’s over for you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:57 PM
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Referring specifically to a side of my family that are immigrants implies the men and women from the same family are siblings
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:15 PM
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One side of my family are immigrants. The men’s children are decently adjusted, but there’s a very clear pattern of maladjustment among the women’s kids
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:00 PM
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You must not have much experience with immigrants. Sounds like you’re trying to “save” somebody, good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:58 PM
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I just don’t think they tend to bring as much to the table when they already have residency, but hey if you find something that works, go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:54 PM
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To be quite honest, your behavior is very feminine and that’s probably why you lack any success with women, and not because of your height. I know multiple guys who are no taller and have had no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:27 PM
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Idk what all these acronyms are you use. I think you spend too much time online and not talking to people irl. To sum it up, you think the only thing women could possibly be attracted to is height. That is the essence of your argument. You really don’t understand women at all, and are projecting your own biases onto them. Honestly you might just be better off with a man, based on the fact that you don’t even seem to want to understand women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:16 PM
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That’s why I said you should talk to taller women. Your username is uselessloner and all you do is whine. Ain’t no woman attracted to this, that’s your problem. Anyway, you seem to be fine with your position in life, so I don’t have anything else to say. You don’t have to convince me of anything and I’m not trying to convince you of anything. It’s not that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:08 PM
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You
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:59 PM
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I don’t know if you want women at all. You have complained ceaselessly about the lack of finding any while acting like you have the luxury of being selective. Beggars can’t be choosers. Maybe you could be a chooser if you weren’t such a, as you describe it, beta, but apparently you can’t even talk to women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:05 PM
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But there’s indication that’s what’s happening. Animals also don’t have market economies, governments, police, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:59 PM
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Ig it’s a good thing if you think being married to the government is superior. I said they are facetious marriages, and I stand by that. I think many of these people are married as a business arrangement, and they don’t care about loyalty or fidelity, which makes marriage pointless anyway, imo, except for the wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:31 AM
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And marriage rates have steadily decreased since then. Marriage rates in the nineties reached lower than at any point in recorded American history, and hasn’t stopped declining. I don’t think there’s any data to suggest that any relationship norms after the 60s should be any model for a stable marriage. Now I will concede divorce rates have also dropped steadily but if fewer people are getting married, that isn’t very consoling. If marriage rates are declining faster than divorce rates, it sugge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:18 AM
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If every attractive woman you know is in her 30s, I’m concerned about the sample size
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:03 AM
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I can see your point because in today’s society, a virgin might be perceived as too “clingy”, but that’s not the actual problem. The problem is that all those people you mentioned have a fake marriage, many of them will probably end up divorced, passing the trauma onto their children, or stay quiet while being in an abusive relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:01 AM
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Why are you allowed to comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:54 AM
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I am 100% anti-statist, you got that right. Ideally I’m an anarchist, but I fw libertarians
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:51 AM
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I think you’re not really grasping market economics. The more tall men dispose of women, the more they also have to compete with other men. Calculate over multiple generations, and they’re less competitive than even an informed short man. Listen, I don’t care if you want to stay single. I’ve been with plenty of women, and you’re probably significantly younger than me. I’m just trying to help you out. If you wanna fuck a sex toy or another man, you do you! It makes no difference to me at all!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:35 AM
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Well let’s get a mod in here to declare you the winner, will that make you feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:23 AM
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I wasn’t aware this was a debate. I was simply giving advice to another person. If you don’t like the advice given, you’re free to disregard it entirely if you so choose. That’s the beauty of it eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:42 AM
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The wealthy and powerful don’t need a system to include them. All systems inherently include the wealthy and powerful or they wouldn’t be wealthy or powerful. The question is not whether capitalism is inclusive of the wealthy and powerful but whether centrally planned economies are inclusive of the underprivileged. Central planning by definition is exclusive and involvement in the centralized planning of an economy is itself an example of power. If a relatively small group of people has power ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:28 AM
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But if we acknowledge that capitalism is a system, then the obvious question is for whom is the system designed to generate and accumulate capital? If the goal is to make generation and accumulation of capital systemic, then one must conclude that the system must be inclusive and not exclusive to the wealthy or the powerful. In my view, that means a more capitalist system would be one that is less restrictive, but central planning by nature is more restrictive, so we end up at a contradiction. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:13 AM
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I think it’s easier on the east coast. I think women over there care much less about political beliefs than women on the west coast. I could be wrong but that’s what I think based on my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:07 AM
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If you’re gonna go that route just become a passport bro so the market is more in your favor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:05 AM
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Neither democrats nor socialists created cities and are probably more or less the natural result of a market based economy. It seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. Sure there are more leftists in cities now, but the government has not always spent as much money as it does, either. They’re basically paying voters to keep themselves in power, which isn’t sustainable btw
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:04 AM
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But the government isn’t capitalist, it’s simply opportunistic and exploitative. Those are not synonymous with capitalism. Which governments have eliminated sufficiently capitalism to the degree that corruption was also eliminated, by your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:00 AM
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Also, being that I easily found sources which dispute the numbers you cited, I’m also curious what your intent here is. I never made any claims about whether people are having less sex or not, so I can’t help but wonder why you are interested in proving that they aren’t having less sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:51 AM
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Weird because a peer reviewed study from 2020 puts the number of young men reporting no sexual activity in the previous year at 30%, with the number steadily rising, and newspaper reports from within the last year all report a similar number, so I’m curious where that data is from
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:48 AM
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I think these are the types to care more about money actually
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:20 AM
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Just look at it as self selection. The only person they’re likely to have a long term relationship with is their own sibling or relative anyway. They’re only good for one thing and I’m pretty sure they understand that, which is why they have chosen to self select in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:09 AM
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I’m not here to convince you of anything. You can believe what you want to believe, makes no difference to me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:02 AM
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Well if there’s a thread about it, I guess it’s over for you. Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:55 AM
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Well if you receive the right social cues then most likely she won’t find it creepy when you make suggestive comments
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:48 AM
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Sure, it won’t happen magically, it happens because of the deficit between how they’re treated and how they want to be treated
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:45 AM
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Dress decently, maintain hygiene, be capable of having a polite conversation. If you can do that then you’ve established some trust. The most difficult part is making it sexual but if you can do the basics then that will be easier
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:43 AM
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But I didn’t say that, I specifically mentioned a shorter man will do better with a taller woman with more confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:40 AM
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Ariana grande is a short girl by pretty much any definition. Considering I was talking specifically about shorter men and taller women, it’s not that relevant. Of course she will be treated as disposable when there’s an excess supply of short women and an excess demand for tall men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:38 AM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:26 AM
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Most women usually have something going on but there’s a likelihood that it’s not exclusive. You need to be able to pick up on social cues like eye contact and laughing/smiling. Making attempts will help you get better at it, so you know when to escalate or cut your losses
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:59 AM
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Yeah there’s some similarity in that society caters to groups we aren’t part of, which is why I think this is the way to go. One thing I would advise is to make your sexual desire known, without coming off as creepy, so you want to make sure she’s not intimidated first, by chatting in a friendly way like you mentioned, but escalate to more sexually playful language, or you’ll fumble the bag. The two big things to communicate are that you care about her feelings and you find her sexually desirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:53 AM
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The sexual marketplace chips away at their confidence so when they see a guy who has confidence despite not possessing top tier stats, they instinctively empathize with you and women tend to be drawn very strongly to things they can identify with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:37 AM
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I don’t care what anyone says, I guarantee a 5’8” dude with confidence is way more attractive to a 5’10” woman than a 6’3” guy whose whole existence revolves around his height. It’s like moth to a flame, trust me, that’s why they’re nicer to you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:34 AM
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You can’t be skeptical, you have to believe they want you, that makes you look more confident and they love that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:31 AM
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And personally, after having been with both shorter and taller women, I definitely prefer the latter. I think because they’re taller they tend to be treated less delicately, which creates an unfulfilled desire, because a woman is still a woman, whether big or small, they still want to be treated with the same delicacy. Plus long legs are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:30 AM
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It’s a whole subreddit dedicated to being tall as a woman. It’s definitely a cope. Hey you can try something different or just keep running into the same problem. I’m shorter than you and most of the women I’ve been with have been taller. I’ve had tall women straight up tell me they just wanted to fuck. Not at all unattractive ones either. You can take it or leave it, it makes no difference to me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:19 AM
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It doesn’t solve the problem, and I think probably just makes marriage less likely or more facetious. It’s a societal problem, and the production of and profit from pornography doesn’t help. It’s more of a dilemma regarding how resources are distributed imo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:12 AM
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I think they’re just coping with the fact that short girls are too competitive for them. They have that “girls stick together” shit so they can’t just talk crap on short girls, especially since shorter girls are more common, they can easily be marginalized for doing so, so instead they brag as a method of coping. Trust me all tall girls know what I’m talking about. Just be respectful and attentive and you’ll be fine, because they won’t get that from tall men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:58 PM
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She probably looks like a man tbh. Don’t listen to that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:52 PM
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Tall guys have a basically limitless supply of short girls which crowds out taller girls from the market. I think shorter girls tend to be more insecure so they lack scruples and the taller ones, I think, don’t tend to like stooping to their level, metaphorically speaking 😂 you’ll always be better off making decisions based on how women act and how they treat you instead of what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:51 PM
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Debunked by whom? That’s what pew research said 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:42 PM
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Yeah for sure, you need to tap that 5’10” - 5’11” market. They’ll treat you way better and make you look godlike bagging an Amazon warrior princess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:41 PM
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Sounds like you’re saying they do like it and want it but doesn’t usually end up working in their favor. I personally don’t want to save any woman. I want them to be honest about their emotions and transparent with their vulnerabilities, but I don’t see that as saving them, I see that as having naturally complementary gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:30 PM
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Then go for taller women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:25 PM
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For real? Women don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:24 PM
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Ideally potential would be fine, great even, since it gives you something to work on and bond over, but in my experience, almost no one wants to put in the effort
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:21 PM
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When I was in high school, I had a huge crush on this girl, and we ended up hooking up. I was a virgin and she told me she was too. We made out a few times and dry humped. She made it known she had hooked up with other guys but insisted she was a virgin. The last time we hooked up her mom threw a condom in her room. I was naive enough to believe people just told the truth in general because I didn’t understand the point of lying. Soon after, she broke up with me, saying my beliefs contributed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:13 PM
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Scarcity and excess. Men value it more because it’s more scarce for them. Women value it less because it’s less scarce for them. Like supply and demand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:56 PM
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Well according to pew research, 63% of men are single while only 34% of women are. It doesn’t prove the 80-20 thing but neither does it disprove it. It actually strengthens the overall argument that multiple women are sharing the same man all throughout society
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:50 PM
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I think that’s an oversimplification since consumption is such a social norm. It may not be a lack of social skills at all, but simply an adjustment to the norm. For example, let’s say a woman dates two different men on two different days, and one drinks but the other doesn’t. The man who drinks may come off as more charming and sociable than the one who doesn’t (let’s assume for the sake of argument that the opposite doesn’t happen). If consuming alcohol is the norm, then not consuming alcohol …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:46 PM
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It didn’t help my parents raised me in a super conservative Christian environment, but like everyone in my family was secretly and knowingly violating their tenants. It’s like they did it just to screw me over. It sucks because I know people think I’m an asshole but they don’t really understand. Hope things work out better for your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:18 PM
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It hasn’t though, if we just look at the numbers. The disparities by gender in relationship rate is higher than ever. There are more single men than ever. Years ago, it was much more likely that one man and one woman would stay married and have a family. We know the statistics have changed, so it’s kinda hard to pretend “it’s always been like this.” Yes, inequalities have always existed, but inequalities can also grow, and they have
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:15 PM
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Your friend is like me. That’s how I was and I’m also an anarchist. I didn’t realize it was happening so never took advantage. A couple relationships shook me and I can’t really recover. People always want to talk to me but I don’t want to talk to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:12 PM
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That’s not the problem, that’s a SYMPTOM of the problem, and there is a huge difference. The more that higher status men are able to monopolize the market (thanks to social media and dating apps), the more everyone else is reliant on virtual relationships, the less socialized they are, which creates a feedback loop where the men chosen more often get chosen even more and the men chosen less often get chosen even less
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:06 PM
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It’s not even about showing him off on instagram. Those days are long gone. Those kind of men don’t tend to post girls they sleep with unless married because it sends the wrong message to other potential mates. It’s all about competing in the secret world of women that straight men don’t have access to. These women are competing with each other for the same man, to “prove” who is “prettier” much the way men might compete in physical sports or combat sports to prove their dominance. It’s just all…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:02 PM
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According to pew research, as of last year, 63% of men were single but only 34% of women were. That means that not only are a significant amount of women sharing a man, but they apparently have no problem doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:55 PM
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Personality doesn’t matter, it’s probably the least relevant thing when it comes to attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:53 PM
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