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I think the thing is you're actually waiting on her at these moments. Which is okay for the loo or a drink but if you really need assurance that she'll come back is to not give her assurance that you'll be there when she's gone. Say something like, "don't take too long, I won't be here forever. Or even more than five minutes." Oh also you could just build enough attraction and that should work. If she doesn't like you she doesn't like you and that should be the end of that. Not all girls are gon…
/r/seduction28/12/13 08:27 AM
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To add on to everyone else, go out on nights that attracts bigger crowds, ie more target options. Friday, Saturday and whenever ladies night is at wherever you are. That's 3 nights a week. Save the rest for studies
/r/seduction15/11/13 01:27 PM
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Well then it isn't a mindset thing either, you could do all those things later, and sleep and wake up later. The cycle's the same, just that the timing's different. The later timing might suit some other people. Besides OP doesn't get the 8 hours or so, but that doesn't mean he's sleep deprived either
/r/seduction31/10/13 04:06 AM
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I think I can pull that off on a normal day, but not on a workout day, if I don't get like 8 hours my muscles ache for more than just the next day and then the next workout day isn't as productive anymore
/r/seduction31/10/13 02:50 AM
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I don't think it's a mindset issue, you can go having high energy and seizing the day and all, with the low amount of sleep and high energy, you'll definitely burn out
/r/seduction31/10/13 02:49 AM
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That's a pretty early wake up. What time do you sleep?
/r/seduction30/10/13 06:09 PM
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I use an anti pespirant and it's a put and leave on when you sleep works wonders with not fuckkng thinking about it
/r/seduction10/10/12 01:52 PM
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Thank you for this. I'm 5"9 and feel short in clubs. Also I'm serving the army in a day where I'm going to have to shave my head as well.
/r/seduction30/07/12 05:57 AM
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Ignore her, do what Cajun says, but talk to your guy friend about shutting up. You say you guys are close, he should be helping you out instead of telling girls you're in the community
/r/seduction30/07/12 05:47 AM
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Sometimes I feel the way you do, but I was there around the clock, I felt very early weekday classes (like 6-730am) had young women, working class women, as well as the older crowd, because of their retirement and them not having anything to do, and their weird body clocks that make them all early risers. Also, after-work classes had a fair few (but not as much as morning) amount of attractive women. For weekends, I felt later in the mornings, like 10am ish and beyond and also well into the afte…
/r/seduction30/07/12 04:05 AM
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Well my best advice is not to go after her, but there is this one word advice that'll definitely work if you really have to: Kino. You made her laugh, you guys are sitting on her bed, it'll be easy to spark the kino fire. You could do this, and mention that you want to be very casual with her, so you still can bring other girls over... not sure how cool she'll be with it. Best advice: Be alpha, be this girl's bestfriend and tell her about the game. Next time you bring girls over she can be your …
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:53 PM
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In yoga classes there's usually a certain amount of distance that you should give each other, but usually the studios are small and still by respecting that distance, you are always going to be next to someone and within talking distance of them as well. It can be really casual, and why not sit next to her instead of some greasy fat guy who's wife goaded him into yoga thinking it'll turn that beer belly into at least a barrel chest. Boy, is she deluded... On topic, most instructors do not permit…
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:48 PM
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Or after steps 1-2, 5 a couple of times, tell her she should join you after class one day for a coffee/etc/etc, then when she asks when? You say not today (cause you're busy leading your awesome life as you are busy doing something awesome and will not come off too desperate) and say, I'm busy doing xxx, how about next week/next class? Saves you like, 8 steps, and when you're on the date, be yourself, don't go total interview mode and you'll know her likes and dislikes. And since you already kno…
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:45 PM
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The yoga classes you go to must have girls PMS-ing all over the place. I'm no yoga student but I did work in a gym (that had a yoga studio, with yoga instructors from India.). Most of the yoga classes were aimed towards slow movement and relaxation, aside from hot yoga, power yoga, fat-loss yoga, etc and in this case, it's just exhausting. Beginner classes (which usually are where young, hot girls are at) are usually therapy, gentle, hatha basic, traditional yoga classes. Those classes are very …
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:38 PM
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Wanna stretch ?
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:35 PM
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Yeah you wouldn't want to do this. But girls that are flirty with you even after they said they've boyfriends, it probably means they're just in the relationship for the sake of it, or they want something else. So it's all on the girl. If the girl really likes her bf, she wouldn't have anything to do with you. So make sure when you have a girl, you make her want you more than anything else. Chances are, her cheating on her boyfriend is not your amazing seduction skills, rather she wants somethin…
/r/seduction29/07/12 01:43 PM
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looks at link karma looks at real peen looks at e-peen oh boy...
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:27 AM
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Probably. What you're saying about the run into them probably doesn't apply to what I mainly do, which is daygame. Also, I was looking more of a day 2 close, over Ks and Fs. Don't see why I'm getting downvotes when I'm just plain asking for help. But thanks, the conversation stuff made and sense and I'll try to use it.
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:55 AM
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I meant karma from walking the dogs, but I thought it was obvious enough... EDIT: And how is link karma useful? haha
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:52 AM
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You're obviously trolling. Not getting results from merely reading and not doing. Then again, I've been here for close to a month, have been doing more than I have been reading, but dissatisfied with results I've been getting. Phone numbers, flakes and texting to close to day 2s that lead nowhere. I'm trying, obviously.
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:40 PM
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Will the karma count towards my total link karma?
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:37 PM
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Cold weather at the beach spells sunsets blankets warm wine and snuggling. Now ain't that a pretty picture.
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:36 PM
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Being satisfied - does not mean you're deluding yourself into thinking you're some form of perfection. Being satisfied is, exactly what you said - acknowledging the flaws you cannot change, and learning to love them. The things you can't change about yourself...or things that can be change but are out of your hands to change are part of being satisfied with yourself, coupled with the things that you can change, and did. It's about being satisfied with yourself as a whole, acknowledging the thing…
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:33 PM
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I second the other girl thing, but go on that second meeting with her, come clean say you were nervous, go with a smile on your face and an apology and do an activity thts both fun and keeps you both preoccupied and not a lot of room to talk except for light hearted stuff. Then just joke about the stuff you guys are doing. Know your logistics (idk if it's the word, the English language is butchered in my country), know what's fun and bring her there. Ask a stranger or 2. Boring people that don't…
/r/seduction28/07/12 03:59 PM
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Whatever comes to you. Make a joke about the teacher, or simply go plain direct and stuff. The more sincere you are (but in PUA cases, though I hope you don't become like this, the more sincere you come off) the more shes going to feel something
/r/seduction28/07/12 03:52 PM
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My mom's half white half indian and my dad is something like an indian... I come off as hispanic (plus i have a hispanic name (nothing to do with my race)) half the time, which asia girls seem to like, and the other half of the time as an indian... which they don't seem to like. I had a discussion with a couple of people I game with about Singapore-Chinese girls, about them being the hardest to game, it seems one of the reasons is they have a lot going on, another would be that they can't seem t…
/r/seduction28/07/12 01:48 PM
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Well I'm of mixed decent, but I've been living in Asia my whole life and don't get me wrong, lots of Asian guys want white girls, most are receptive to me but I don't know about them not liking Asian guys. It's of personal preference I think
/r/seduction28/07/12 12:24 PM
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Singapore here, ( South East Asia), so slightly relevant I guess. I've approached Koreans japs and china girls. Although it always seemed that Singapore-Chinese girls are the hardest to game, and I think it's largely due to them being locals, they have a lot going on for them. So for your part, it would be Koreans. Don't fret much however, most Asian girls really dig white guys cause of their exoticness and different hair/eye color. Play the adventurous exotic fun foreigner card and you're good …
/r/seduction28/07/12 12:18 PM
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Don't beat yourself down. That is most important. Keep going out and tellin yourself as long as you go out, you've done enough. When you're out, question yourself, ask yourself is it worth it approaching and you'll find tht it is and you'd approach sooner or later. I went out for a few weeks without approaching before I could approach.
/r/seduction28/07/12 12:10 PM
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I'm new to the game, but kudos! I've got 2 girls that asked for my number before, and let me tell you, the feeling is boss. One of which was halfway whilst I was talking she suddenly just asked for it, as if she was afraid it was a one time interaction and she wouldn't be able to enjoy being with me anymore. We exchanged in the end, a policy I've always had...but I didn't managed to get her on a date.
/r/seduction26/07/12 02:25 PM
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Beautiful FR, and so was the comment section. Question though, I'm still pretty new at this and have a lot of trouble in day game escalation. How soon and earlier do you escalate ? More importantly, other than what was highlighted above, what sort of ''moves" do you usually use to escalate in the day, especially with women you meet on the streets, not people you've been introduced to and been given DHV by your cousin ?
/r/seduction25/07/12 06:34 PM
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Well you are younger so you might want to come off more mature looking. Dress how a man would. Although, like the other comment said, you are good enough, dont do anything out of your way. I text on the day itself. Most interactions in day game aren't that long and she probably won't forget you, but the happy fun energy she might have associated with you might be forgotten.
/r/seduction23/07/12 03:07 PM
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You got a number now what ? Get another one. Then another 10. Text game her in the meantime land a date quickly.
/r/seduction23/07/12 03:00 PM
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"How you doing?"
/r/seduction23/07/12 02:53 PM
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Anything can be turned sexual, even your cold reads. You look very fashionable in that sexy black dress, you must be in the fashion industry. "she replies, doesn't matter what is it" of course it's the sexy you that makes it sexy. Weak example but you see how it is.
/r/seduction23/07/12 12:07 PM
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There's also this recently famous types of couches that can turn into bunk beds... I haven't seen one that can turn into a maybe queen size bed, but that would be the coolest to get.
/r/seduction23/07/12 06:03 AM
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Sorry, what is NSA?
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:06 PM
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You do. I'm not as old as you are, but I've spent all of my teenage years filling myself with insecurities and shit. Honestly, if you don't think those things, you mean you don't find the girl attractive when you approach her? It could be as simple as thinking "wow this girl is cute" then going up to her and saying exactly that. You do think these things, you're just pushing away. Next time you see a girl that's attractive, use the first word that pops up when you see her, you see a hot girl, th…
/r/seduction22/07/12 02:07 PM
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I think you shouldn't have asked, asking is just simply put, extremely AFC. Men don't ask for what they want. They go out and get it. Easy ways to kino would be pretend to palm read, lead her by putting your hand on the small of her back, holding her hand, arm around her shoulder. The arm can be used when she's cold as well. You being from Montana might not feel as cold as she might have, so you gotta look out and pick on these things. Congrats on the insta date though, and you did well regardle…
/r/seduction22/07/12 02:02 PM
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Am so gonna use your accidental lines. Genius, there's so much pushing and crowdedness in the clubs I go to over here. In fact I'm gonna try the swirl thing with the compliment. Usually I use it to check her out and tell her I was checking her out ha. Also like that part about when you get rejected. You're gooood.
/r/seduction22/07/12 12:11 PM
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What about a genuine compliment ? See a girl you think is too cute for that ugly dress, then say that. See a girl that has curves in the right places? Call her sexy lady. Start with a Hi, then drop in the compliment, it's not rehearsed, and as long as you are honest with yourself, it will show that you genuinely mean it. If you really want to go with the generic hi stuff... Do that thing where you smile widely look extremely amazed and curious and say "Who are you?!" A couple people here mention…
/r/seduction22/07/12 12:08 PM
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I agree with the Ikea as well, they have some cheap gems that look classy. What most of their wood is plywood or chipboard, but they slap a thin layer of some other wood/wallpaper type thing to make it look like its solid wood with grain. Most girls can't tell the difference. Want to remodel an entire room but are just afraid to fuck up because of budget constraints? Play sims3, silly, but it worked for me hahaha.
/r/seduction22/07/12 11:58 AM
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Honestly, even normal dudes hitting on girls is somewhat rare. Where I come from, next to no one does that, especially in clubs. They just go up and grind. So being an interesting person on top of being a confident enough guy to come up and talk to a girl... You're pretty much in. On friday I've had a night very similar to OP's... and that's when I came up with the smoking strategy. Clubs are loud and the parts for good interactions are smoking rooms and bars. Myself, I'm not a regular smoker ei…
/r/seduction22/07/12 11:36 AM
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I smiled. You did goooood. "few minutes of pretending to start a movie" hahahah
/r/seduction22/07/12 10:01 AM
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This guy has got it completely right I think. Save a few things. When he says hi isn't the best opener, I believed he meant the generic hi how's it going how are you shit. I almost always start with hi! It's energetic, friendly and familiar (strange guy walks up to u and pops and question, or strange guy walks up to you with a big smile and hi ? then after pops and question. Also familiarity as in the sense that they would be geared to immediately reply with a hi and not go awkwardly uhh at your…
/r/seduction22/07/12 09:43 AM
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Thought the pictures made it less motivational, I mean a perfect bubble butt in between words you trying to read about its there for the taking, go out and get it. touches butt on screen It would be better if he had all the motivational stuff and first, then a parade of girls parading their asses in the end. Now that is motivational.
/r/seduction22/07/12 09:06 AM
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Think this rule will cause as much problems as it will solve. Sure, it'll motivate me and everyone else in seddit to go on out and sarge more (I've been going at it 2-3 times a week or so, I'm still working on my interactions before I post better FRs). Problem is, I think the same 95% who don't go out will come up with fake FRs to stay in seddit. Also, most of us don't have the means of recording and stuff... so it would be hard to question the authenticity of the FRs. Seems to have to be based …
/r/seduction22/07/12 08:58 AM
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This was going to be my first suggestion, but I've always heard complaints from friends who get cheap futons saying they're uncomfortable. That being said, it depends now on your price range. Worst come to worst, change the sofa seats to some really comfy king coils/whichever brand makes the comfiest seats, throw in some exotic looking arabian sofa pillows and a comfy blankey..I mean, who wouldn't want to snuggle up in that?
/r/seduction22/07/12 08:51 AM
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I think they're in a foreign land and don't want to be all alone. Have you thought about asking them to a bar/club ? Would be easier to isolate her and go higher up the kino ladder for a kiss... Then getting her for sexy times would be easier. Besides, you guys already had a great day together. Out of my element here, but I've never met an overly friendly virgin that didn't want to to have it going on (like obvious intent, not in your case, she's friendly but without intent) so i doubt on the vi…
/r/seduction22/07/12 08:46 AM
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Well getting a bed in place of the couch doesn't seem like an option, but what about thrashing the couch for one of these ? http://housegardendesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/modern-sofa-beds.jpg
/r/seduction22/07/12 08:25 AM
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I do lots of mall game. But I rarely go in shops. My best tip would be get a wingman to push you have fun and get in state with. It helps getting off rejection so much easier.. If this is not a option create a motivational reward for your self. Lets say 5 approaches and you get to buy yourself your favourite cup of joe (for me it's a raw steak of a good cut I'd get and then grill it at home later to perfection). If you're already not too bad at conversing with people, in your mind just keep on t…
/r/seduction21/07/12 06:05 PM
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You and mr tall ^ there needs to own your height. Walk as if you have the perfect height, regardless of how tall everyone else is in that situation. Once it shows that it doesn't bother you on the outside, it will reflect on everyone else. My wingman is a really (5"5 or 5"4) short Asian dude, he dates tall models so often I get jealous. True he's been in the game for so long compared to me and he just doesn't give a fuck about his height.
/r/seduction21/07/12 05:54 PM
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Oh how I loved that song. I'm gonna have to YouTube it and play it on repeat for... Till the chicks know the name of my band.
/r/seduction19/07/12 06:24 PM
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hell, she might want some of that salsa dancing ass.
/r/seduction19/07/12 05:14 PM
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Can't your friend play wingman in a date just once for you? Alternatively, text a bit more, build some rapport and attraction then ask for a date. Dont drag on the text game for too long before dropping the date bomb. Her only. I might be out of my depth here as I've not gotten a day2 yet... But that is what sounds sensible to me
/r/seduction19/07/12 02:52 PM
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Hm, couldnt you get an apt/loft without the roommate ? If with a roommate it costs 400, 800 on a 2k income doesn't sound too bad...
/r/seduction19/07/12 01:01 PM
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If its "what are you looking at?" just say "you" dead in the eye with finality and a serious tone. For "what"... I guess you could say anything under the sun.
/r/seduction19/07/12 10:59 AM
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"if you have to actually pee do it". I lol'ed beyond measure. Thanks for the heads up. On topic of public spaces - baby/family rooms that are beside toilets in malls usually have a nice sofa ish seat to it, and a lock. If u get caught, again, it's just a security guard...
/r/seduction18/07/12 02:45 PM
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She texted you...3x in a row? Maybe friend zoned.... Maybe not
/r/seduction18/07/12 12:04 PM
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Dont deliver jokes then. Some people have it some people dont. I can't speak for people who don't have it...cause I'm a funny guy. Sometimes. Watch Sasha day game video on YouTube, entitled how can I be more funnier (yes, same as your post.) oh and if you tell a bad joke? Don't give a fuck, you and yourself do not depend on someone else's reaction, you're there to have fun and see if that girl is compatible/suit your liking. Not the other way around.
/r/seduction18/07/12 11:49 AM
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I actually thought with that lol at the end he was going for some thickly veiled irony... But I'm not too sure anymore.
/r/seduction17/07/12 03:46 PM
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Sex up the convo a bit maybe ? Then you can judge how much of the kino ladder to climb by her responses
/r/seduction16/07/12 05:09 PM
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http://www.rsdnation.com/node/72471 This guy sums it up pretty nicely, puts in links to self esteem and the likes. It shows that, confidence from the "ego", puts you in ups and down, because ego is fed with stuff like validation and compliments and successes in the field, and you feel confident, but this confidence is wavering, not self sustainable if hurt. So if you were to be brought down by rejections and insults of the like, you would feel bad and unconfident. Self-esteem however, is untouch…
/r/seduction16/07/12 11:07 AM
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To Read: Ego Vs Self-Esteem.
/r/seduction16/07/12 08:04 AM
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Sunny Singapore. Asian country. I'm fairly young (turning 20 soon), but I have to enlist for 2 years in the army. So it wouldn't be that much action on my part soon... It's a must to serve here.
/r/seduction15/07/12 05:47 AM
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It's cool. I doubt she was drunk or had the wrong number, I got her number on wednesday, texted her on thursday which she did reply to and agreed to meet me on friday, and the clubbing/partying activities are pretty much dead on thursday and then she didn't reply on friday. I'll brush it off like it doesn't matter. I've done like what you've said, daygame, I've gotten a fair few numbers and facebooks, but they've haven't lead to anywhere yet, some were flakes, some responded positively to textin…
/r/seduction14/07/12 04:39 AM
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Haha the cheapest club here has an entry fee of 15$. The rest are of 28$++. Drinks are around 12-15$ for bars and 15$ upwards for clubs. It's an expensive country when it comes...to everything. The scene here is Wednesdays/Fridays/Saturdays. So next day partying would be only from a Friday.
/r/seduction14/07/12 04:24 AM
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:/ Yeah, if you've done daygame, the numbers you get tend to flake half the time as well. Some girls give out their number just out of politeness, or they've had just a fleeting moment of attraction. I'll do more daygame and also night game when I can (don't like the idea of spending so much cash for club entry fees, drinks, cabs, etc) and hopefully line up a new first ever day 2. Guess the best way to proceed is indifference, being outcome independent.
/r/seduction13/07/12 03:25 PM
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No well, I mean the thing with my ex-gf was just an instance of what I've done with previous girls in the paying sense (even though there has only been one...). I'll stick to at least offering to buy then. My ex-gf had offered to pay for me at times and I had let her, it was a healthy relationship in that sense, if not any other sense at all. She did, she didn't reply my text today, even though she sounded positive yesterday, so I'm enjoying the most loneliness glass of whiskey. I'll just keep c…
/r/seduction13/07/12 01:19 PM
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I don't know. This confuses me. Back when I was more of a nice guy then i am now, the only girlfriend i had, i had always offered to pay and at least sometimes even if she refused I'd still pay half of her portion. But I thought she took me too easily and well, it didn't end pretty well, I was needy and stupid. Sometimes i read around and people saying not to pay, and others saying to pay. So it's weird. Oh, anyway, i texted her today as we're supposed to meet. No reply for a couple of hours. Th…
/r/seduction13/07/12 09:08 AM
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There is a whole e book from that page... You can find it online it called the ultimate guide to phone and text game I think
/r/seduction13/07/12 09:02 AM
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This is where I am right now. I guess it's about knowing yourself and life can happen... With or without other people, knowing the fact that you have yourself and that is more than enough.
/r/seduction13/07/12 08:02 AM
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Learning how to make your conversations less humorless already huh
/r/seduction13/07/12 07:58 AM
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I'm not too sure about this either... Paying seems very nice guy. Not paying might come off as a douche bag as we barely know each other. I thought of something along the lines of "I don't want to take away your independence as a woman from you". Not too sure how that will pan out, either. Anybody has a second opinion to this ?
/r/seduction13/07/12 06:36 AM
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That was probably the look got yesterday. Felt abit awkward though, I only knew her for five minutes and the cockblock and my friend was there... I will try my best to capitalize.
/r/seduction13/07/12 06:35 AM
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Thanks will try out the game and such. I did triangle gazing the first night i met her, she held crazy eye contact but didn't look down. Was probably too soon, just gotta battle the stupid nerves and go for everything!
/r/seduction13/07/12 04:35 AM
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Alright thanks load mate, if you could... http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/wh8sx/lined_up_my_first_day_2_ever_would_appreciate_any/
/r/seduction13/07/12 04:03 AM
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Did not manage to even get a semi going on.
/r/seduction12/07/12 07:36 AM
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Its an Asian country by the way... I didnt managed to do much on the dance floor for some reason yesterday but it was an okay night considering how much I drank, and the fact that I went more just to spend time with friends after a couple months of working and rarely seeing them. We've obviously drank so much more than just 2-3 whiskey cokes. Okay the lowdown - Flirted and talked with 2 chicks in the smoke room, played some guessing games, did a spin thing (where you hold her hand and spin her a…
/r/seduction12/07/12 06:27 AM
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I've left and check back to this on my mobile so gums out of the question. From your 2nd last paragraph, this almost never happens. I've never seen a girl attack a guy other than drunk on the dance floor, even to really good looking or alpha guys. But I'll attack, and follow the rest of your advice. I don't generally ample unless I club so I wouldn't mind doing the smoke room game. 2 things however, explain calibration (as I'm not too sure) and sometimes I feel uncomfortable/out of place with th…
/r/seduction11/07/12 01:31 PM
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Will try this. Would work well to train my vocal projection anyway.
/r/seduction11/07/12 01:26 PM
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The answer is - Shy girls. Some girls just don't want to meet up without an hour long text conversation. Goddamn.
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:25 AM
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Wow well, we've got to get some sort of brown community going on here as well ha. Hm, I don't know about the online game cause I've never had a profile etc (I'm young.). Well for over here, most extremely traditional asian chicks will run at the sight of you.. But the caucasian chicks seem find with it almost all of the time. And probably, you don't want a girl that filter you out, whether physically in real life or an online dating profile, just based on your ethnicity or stigma/stereotypes you…
/r/seduction10/07/12 02:17 PM
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Thanks for the push. I went out sarging again today, got a facebook and a number close... Feeling a bit demoralized I haven't gotten that elusive day 2 yet. I know it's a stupid belief and things like this will come and I've to be confident that they will come...but the monkey's dancing on my back saying otherwise.
/r/seduction10/07/12 02:05 PM
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Goddamn you guys are tall. Well, I'm brown too, and the main population here is Chinese Asians, sometimes I feel disadvantaged but I'm not too sure. Why don't you try emulating his game, if it works better, then you know.
/r/seduction10/07/12 03:26 AM
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If you didn't care for rejection you would inevitably be avoiding pain. So approaching would merely be seeking pleasure... Or not seeking it. So it's either staying stagnant or getting pleasure. Which kind of agrees with the last part but yours uses pain as a driving force... I don't know if that's healthy to me, mentally.
/r/seduction10/07/12 03:15 AM
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Here's a question, approached this one girl, great interaction, she laughed a lot but and she said she wanted to give me her number, even before I went for any sort of close. It was just going really swell. Did some great fluff talk in text message and slot in the date perfectly. She said she'd had to check with her parents (she's 17 and I'm turning 20) but the next day when I check with her, she says no, I continued texting her a bit... She's still pretty responsive and shit, do I continue a ru…
/r/seduction10/07/12 03:04 AM
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Yeah I should've been a little more clearer. Obviously if you want a one girl relationship you would want to feeling emotionally connected to her... I'm just saying don't do it in the initial stages of the relationship, girls tend to be fickle and flaky at the start of the relationship or you guys aren't as attracted to each other as you think or any other various factor that the relationship might not work out. Until she gets very attracted, has increased comfort and etc... Well you guys would …
/r/seduction09/07/12 02:19 AM
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Exactly. Don't see why I'm getting votes down though. Yeah, you're looking for a one-girl relationship. I am too. But it is absolutely wrecking to concentrate on her and like I said, emotionally invest in a girl. Before playing the game, I emotionally invested in girls that were marginally interested in me, it did not feel good at all. That is an understatement. It comes from a place of neediness and insecurities and just by egging the mindset of outcome independence/she is merely an option, you…
/r/seduction08/07/12 12:29 PM
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Yeah I think what's posted is the one you've read. Also I think it's within a post in the sidebar, I found it out from there and I think it's in the beginner section. Side note though, notice at the end he says that if anyone was interested he would continue... Is there any existence of a part two portion of his post ?
/r/seduction08/07/12 09:50 AM
1

Why well don't you escalate with a girl that you're not so nervous around first ?
/r/seduction08/07/12 05:38 AM
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I like this but please don't invest emotionally in this girl. It might work out and it might not.
/r/seduction07/07/12 11:52 PM
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This comment should be side barred, a lot of the guys here are not going out due to minor insecurities about their looks... Insecurities that women would not care for.
/r/seduction07/07/12 10:01 AM
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French girl With boobs compared feet size with me, said I had really large feet. Exchanged a few words and that was it. What a waste.
/r/seduction07/07/12 03:23 AM
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Yes WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING THIS SHE SAID SHE HAD A GREAT DAY OMG. Sorry.
/r/seduction07/07/12 03:19 AM
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I'd say read and watch as much as you can. Just make sure youre always doing twice as much Sarging. Read everything but only internalize and memorize what suits you, what you would see yourself doing. Narrow it down to methods and puas that you like and then you'll have a certain style.
/r/seduction07/07/12 03:17 AM
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I'm not an nyer but I completely shut my game down unless it's getting off a station and shit. Id hate to get rejected and stand awkwardly in the train whilst everyone is looking. It's a wrong mindset and I know it. A hot french girl with boobs once opened me on a train, and she compared feet sizes and said I had large feet (size 11, we're in Asia mind you do I'm considered big foot for the most part.) had a short convo with her, was anxious as mad. When I got off I realised I could have put in …
/r/seduction07/07/12 03:10 AM
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For le Asians as well
/r/seduction07/07/12 12:00 AM
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It's how the world works, you either live with it or die alone trying to fight it. It's never late cause the time you have now is more than time you'll ever gonna have from this point forth. I'm turning 20 this year virgin, I'm just trying as hard as I can to game and shut cause hell I don't want to look back and wait even longer being frustrated at this world
/r/seduction06/07/12 03:35 AM
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I think a fake F/R just shows low self esteem and the need for validation. If its a lie, u get validation from people on the Internet you barely know, which is almost next to worthless. You could've spent that time hitting on another girl. If its true, you had sex you discussed techniques... What more dyou need?
/r/seduction06/07/12 03:27 AM
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It's often not what you do but more of how you project it, I read play guitar video games watch soccer and play it write my own stuff watch shitty indie films... But it all doesn't matter if you can't project what you love, can't project your passion out. In my first few days out gaming I couldn't make my interactions interesting, wasn't feeling confident. After posting an F/R here and people saying I lacked confidence and self esteem I realized, why the fuxk should I care about what I talk abou…
/r/seduction06/07/12 03:15 AM
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Take it up a notch. If you can read you can write. Most writers I know come from just being book lovers. It doesn't have to be a three way novella love story, it could just be a blog about sports art or whatever the fuck you love. Find a chick that reads and you're good to go, actually.
/r/seduction05/07/12 10:34 PM
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True, but generally a hot girl would get called hot/cute a lot of times... Wouldn't it be playing it with better odds to try a not so everyday compliment? Depends greatly on the girl you're hitting on. Pretty but insecure types, I guess any old compliment will do... High maintenance bitches? Yeah. Well, I'm going out later to try some day game, and I'll try a couple of not so generic compliments.
/r/seduction05/07/12 05:11 AM
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I don't know either. I mean I've experimented with colognes and after shaves, but I never knew what defines musky and most of the stuff I use wear out during the day.. Any particular scents to recommend ?
/r/seduction05/07/12 03:29 AM
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Shows that going direct with the generic hey you're really cute doesn't work with all girls, and you could based some of your rejections on that, if you're getting rejected more than often.
/r/seduction05/07/12 01:39 AM
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Goddamn girls with colored contacts,
/r/seduction05/07/12 12:25 AM
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Disagree. You're probably thinking night/club game where girls hit on. If you didn't know the seduction community - would you still hit on a a girl in broad daylight and tell her she was cute? No, same with every other guy.
/r/seduction29/06/12 10:57 AM
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Awesome. The movie starts at 10.55 and you went and meet her at 10.55? I'm assuming she watched the movie with you ? You've came on bit strongly with rock climbing straight away, but if you interacted really well with her it should work.
/r/seduction29/06/12 01:14 AM
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Goddamn i hate andy what a player
/r/seduction28/06/12 11:39 PM
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You can flirt online if the girl's as much into using her facebook/computer as you are... But poking is just shy man's game.
/r/seduction28/06/12 11:34 PM
1

What if what i thought i said was extremely funny but the girl was just not having it and i come off as "it affecting me" when all i was trying not to do is bust my gut from laughing hahahahahahaha
/r/seduction28/06/12 11:23 PM
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What is SNL ? I'm pretty new too but wow you've done great. And yeah you might just be the rebound however.. Hope it lasts !
/r/seduction28/06/12 01:06 PM
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Daygamee bitchesss
/r/seduction28/06/12 10:22 AM
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Yeah. It depends on a lot of factors, what'd you think you can get out of the interaction, day/night game, whether you have a wingman, how receptive/level of attraction the both girls show... Man getting pussy is hard.
/r/seduction28/06/12 05:23 AM
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...for science!
/r/seduction28/06/12 05:21 AM
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Alright then, I'll test it out on a weekly basis, I'll see if i can last the day first however...
/r/seduction27/06/12 05:33 AM
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Hm, that would make sense as the guy below says about stronger workouts. But looking around, it says it takes a week-ish (different sources say different durations) to note a level of change in testosterone. Then wouldn't a restart of testosterone level mess up stuff, like working out ? Wouldn't be able to lift as much, etc...
/r/seduction27/06/12 03:34 AM
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I rather have that problem then being blown off all the time! I live in Singapore, it is very easy to get blown off in daygame cause of our overly conservative culture of not talking/interacting to strangers.
/r/seduction27/06/12 03:32 AM
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Good enough, I'd feel pretty tired after fapping, I used it a lot to cope with my sleeping problems. I don't have ED or anything like that either. Idk about saving up though, I did one week plus without it and when I fapped it kinda of hurt in a weird way after. I'll try it again for the kicks. Although, I've also heard positive things about masturbation, like it reduces the chance of prostrate cancer, etc. I think it would be the best to find a fair trade off of happy times..
/r/seduction27/06/12 03:30 AM
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Goddamn I am moving to Japan and going on the most awkward of dates! That being said, I've actually opened a 2 set of japanese women outside a coffeeshop...they were receptive and fun but they weren't having any of it when it came to exchanging numbers/meeting up again.
/r/seduction27/06/12 02:21 AM
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Open both of them. Short conversation among-st the 3 of you. Isolate target. You can isolate a target directly, by telling the other girl you want to talk/borrow the chick for 5 minutes. Bring her away then, viola. I wish it was that simple, huh?
/r/seduction27/06/12 12:47 AM
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I'll try it. But aren't there very obvious health benefits of masturbation as well? I'm gonna go on it on the basis that if I don't fap it'll give me more motivation to go on out and sarge even more than I've already have...and since I do daygame i've got to try even harder.
/r/seduction27/06/12 12:02 AM
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I'm not exactly new but neither am I that old here... But what exactly is nofap (other than the obvious literal terms of it) and what are the benefits of nofap?
/r/seduction26/06/12 11:35 PM
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Well I think most of it has been said... But points to note, a wingman is to aid the interaction, if your buddy gets stuck for words you come up with something to talk about, you need to help him isolate his target by entertaining the rest of the group, if its a 2 set, and your wing can't seem to isolate his target, turn on the charm on the other chick and isolate her away. Also, have behind the back signals, so your wing knows whether to come in or not. Also have an ejector word for when you wa…
/r/seduction24/06/12 11:19 PM
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Get fit. Don't even need to get ripped. Start jogging once a week. Get to a momentum of 3 times a week. You will NOT see results. Once you get to this, do HIIT or sprints, high cardiovascular workout. Results will come then. Since you're meaty, check with a doctor first if you're scared. Stop using lotions, if you've tried brand after brand and it doesn't work, time for some serious medication. Go to a doctor, they can give you antibiotics, and stronger topical creams/isotren/etc for your acne (…
/r/seduction24/06/12 08:44 AM
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Time to restring that acoustic and buy a uke. I haven't got so far as to even a date yet... but wow this is so inspiring.
/r/seduction24/06/12 07:29 AM
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Yeah. I've gone out over the week got a few numbers and most of them were flaky, and I felt bad, I thought that I had tried and cared hard enough to slug my ass out there and approach, so the feeling when a couple of numbers (esp from real cute ones) go astray... well I know that feel, but after listening to people that've done it for a long time, they just say move on, there're better girls, and you see them getting new girl after new girl... You know its gonna happen for you soon enough, and j…
/r/seduction24/06/12 04:07 AM
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Well that's me - when I'm not nervous. Still working on true confidence, I'm always funny with my friends that I'm comfortable with, but not with perfect 10 chicks... Working on it!
/r/seduction23/06/12 08:59 AM
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This is good. It tells you to love you for you, not for what you do, not for faking it and just loving yourself, but just love you for being you. No reason whatever, which is the best reason to love for yourself for. It gives you confidence that you don't need to convince yourself you have, you've always loved yourself, and you'll always have the confidence. I only wish i can reach that level of confidence soon.
/r/seduction23/06/12 08:58 AM
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Hm, I don't know how much the tonality of Style/Mystery's method of agreeing with stuff she likes and qualifying that to show that you like her for her and not for her looks; I.E, - She likes painting, and is passionate about it, "I like that about, that you're so passionate about painting". It might come off as the tonality of needy/submissive/approval seeking tonality... Does anyone know how do I sort of qualify, but not come off as that?
/r/seduction23/06/12 08:55 AM
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Eye contact will get you far. I only keep eye contact with women now, men get intimidated (YES INTIMIDATED cause they're afraid and put up a shield of aggressiveness). Try not to give out your normal look when holding eye contact, slightly raised eyebrows, a little widen eyes, slight smile, etc. Imagine having sex with her for a sexual look (no smiles and shit here), imagine her naked for a friendly smile and slightly amused look and soft eyes (slightly widen). Those are the 3 i use, different p…
/r/seduction23/06/12 06:24 AM
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thank you for this. Thank you so much. Next time you go there, try and hit on her and act as if you guys have never talked on the phone... I wonder what will that do to your AA
/r/seduction23/06/12 06:20 AM
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I'm actually not that tall either, (5'8-9"), I'm on the slim side still (still working out, but with low body fat so I have abs and look sexy enough with a shirt). I dress well, I don't know what you mean by the perfect 10 of funny but I'm a funny dude, and can turn on the charm. Although, I'm not that confident, but i put myself out there every week to build on my confidence. Start building yours OP.
/r/seduction23/06/12 06:15 AM
1

Confidence. Confidence helps you in everything.
/r/seduction23/06/12 06:11 AM
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Get ripped, you'll have all the confidence you seen. Get those inside-hell sort of shoes, or if you're really young and think you can pull creepers, go for that. Both would give you 2-3 inches which would put you in about the average height range... As for the penis, fuck it, mouth her first, then do her and she wouldn't mind. If you have good girth going on for you... Then it wont be really that small..
/r/seduction23/06/12 12:45 AM
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This is a good problem, no? Hahahaha.
/r/seduction22/06/12 12:35 AM
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That's what she said.
/r/seduction20/06/12 12:15 PM
1

Alright, thanks. I'm working on it. I've come from a place of deep seated insecurities and a lack of confidence, and have been trying to build in the other way. I don't think I show so much nerves and shit during interactions, but I don't really add value either. I'm working on it. I'll post a newer report once I do better interactions and get numbers that aren't flakes. And just to note, it's been 5 days since I've started this, 3 numbers (4 now, and a facebook) with one that isn't a flake seem…
/r/seduction20/06/12 12:13 PM
1

I would love it if you could help me with my anxiety and awkwardness as well.
/r/seduction20/06/12 11:57 AM
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Thanks for the tips! If you could, you can critique on my first FR here http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/v90ls/fr_4_days_of_daygame_from_my_first_ever_approach/
/r/seduction20/06/12 02:53 AM
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I was pretty confident during my first number close I guess that's why it worked. But as for the other 2... I'm not too sure. Anyway I realized I screwed up the asian girl's number by sending her the wrong text cause she has the same name as a guy friend of mine LOL. Hm, any ideas how to work on/improve my confidence?
/r/seduction19/06/12 11:18 PM
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I know what you mean, but honestly I used them for the simplicity they held. You'd be more concern of women being objectified by PUAs/people of the seduction community here who seduce and use women just for sex. I use the terms yes, but I'm just looking for a girlfriend or someone I'd be compatible with, not a parade of girls to sleep and forget with.
/r/seduction19/06/12 11:15 PM
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Thanks, I keep telling myself that, but I guess it's something that will go away with repetition and time.
/r/seduction19/06/12 11:13 PM
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Mermaid and a girl. That's gotta be the perfect formula
/r/seduction19/06/12 10:33 AM
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I have this too! Mine is probably mild and a barely noticeable amount when I'm relaxed and shit, but it gets terrible when i go on talking to chicks. I've literally bought some over the counter antiperspirant for my hands. It made the sweating lessen the next day, but I hope with regular use it'll be even less or gone. The brand that i got was Perspirex's Hand and Foot Lotion.
/r/seduction19/06/12 09:17 AM
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Good tip, thanks! Always feel scared when going out to meet girls and stuff, as if it won't be socially accepted. It's so irrational but I can't seem to kick it. Will try the number shit the next time I #close!
/r/seduction19/06/12 09:13 AM
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I started off with a handshake when I introduced myself. I hugged her when we parted ways. EDIT: Idk how to make it simpler, there was a lot I wanted to get across and I didn't think i used that much pua "words"... I started off with the handshake, would be weird if we shook again when we parted and it felt so formal. Plus, my sweaty hands made me feel that one handshake was more than enough lol.
/r/seduction19/06/12 05:20 AM
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You've done more than alright, and also, I think you should've gone in for the number! She's sending you signals! There are guys that get girl's numbers without my signals at all.
/r/seduction19/06/12 12:21 AM
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No, I met her in the streets. I guess i should have added an intent of a second meet up long before the close, but she wasn't too agreeing at first i guess, first she kept smiling and saying no, I didn't have much time for an interaction cause I didn't stop her/get to stop here till we exchanged numbers, we walked as we talked...
/r/seduction18/06/12 01:27 PM
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Those are general pua terms not seddit specofic terms
/r/seduction18/06/12 04:25 AM
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Go for someone on the street you wouldn't go for. Unattractive (yes harsh) but your age. You'll be full of confidence add value and fun to the interaction go for the number of she says no tell her you guys could be strictly platonic friends and you just want to have fun.
/r/seduction18/06/12 03:48 AM
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Loads of stuff from the sidebar's all time seddit posts are good. I think a lot of game has to do with self esteem and confidence, you must believe that you're worth a damn and worthy of a girl worth a damn. It's my hardest sticking point (i think?) and it's the thing that makes me find it hard to do solo game. Once you have that, good openers and some reading(questions instead of statements), and use your good points (humor, wit, sarcasm or knowledge) to have fun. Just having fun with what you …
/r/seduction18/06/12 12:53 AM
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Yeah - but from approach to number, there's where the problem lie, you have to keep it short and witty. I had 2 numbers from yesterday, a HB 9 Chilean and an asian, I sent them a text i blatantly stole from simple pickup, i thought it was short simple and witty, and could possibly open up to many areas of conversation. I did not get a reply from either at all HAHA (trying to laugh it off, I'm still new to this). The text i sent was - VIP number, store safely in your phone. - myname. I got a good…
/r/seduction18/06/12 12:45 AM
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I liked the compilation, but I'm not too keen on the beginners' guide. It's very targeted at indirect approaches, seeing someone again (which would narrow it down just to bar/club game/events/etc) and a wide spectrum of game would be lost on beginners. Now, I'm a beginner but I've only done day game and I really like it. Loved the rest.
/r/seduction17/06/12 03:51 AM
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Well then you'll have to add intent to the small talk, make it slightly sexual. I think these conversations are more like conversations in real life, where you can go on and on about one topic. Topics like hobbies and shit would come into play here. Just don't bore her out, and make it a fair trade off that the conversation is about your stuff and her stuff. Keep it interesting, and same for text game, when the interest/conversation is dying out, bail on your terms with a high value "thingy" lik…
/r/seduction17/06/12 02:31 AM
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Well - if your flirting causes you and him collectively to lose female friends, then yes, and you can just go on out and flirt with girls you guys don't know. If it doesn't, then it's just Tom's fault that he's an AFC. Show him The Game or seddit and hopefully he'll be more like you. Or maybe he's just crushing on your particular female friend.
/r/seduction17/06/12 02:26 AM
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Yeah. She's giving you more than enough signs. I'd say Go back there, tell her there's a problem with the phone, its new and there's no numbers in it, put in yours. Phrase it better, I couldn't think of a way.
/r/seduction17/06/12 02:19 AM
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Yup, today would be the third day I'm out sarging, I game'd with more people yesterday (2nd day ever) and also, got my first ever number close! I don't know how comfortable I am trying out alone still, because I had to wait for my wings to still point out towards girls to approach them, I can't seem to approach them without that little "push". Although, tomorrow would probably be the first day I'm out sarging alone...
/r/seduction17/06/12 01:51 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/v4wx9/some_little_tricks_i_use_online_game_texting/ did you happen to see this? I think this is very much catered towards your game. Also there's this http://wingflirt.com/
/r/seduction17/06/12 01:49 AM
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This is gold online, but for the text game I think it might be too wordy, I send out long texts that are pretty witty as well but you don't get as good responses. I think it's geared in girls mindset that long texts come off as needy
/r/seduction16/06/12 11:56 PM
1

I can do the same thing for a mall I guess. I should be more specific, this first time was a day game
/r/seduction16/06/12 09:32 AM
1

Hm, I wanna try solo too, but daygame instead. Any tips for this?
/r/seduction16/06/12 04:26 AM
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Here's what she said: It looks like we're not going out tonight I answered this with "Well I am, just not with you (:" IMHO I think this awesome wow. Might want to privatize it ? If a chick I'm texting a girl sees that half of my texts are placed here or half of my responses are from here... Well, that would not end well.
/r/seduction16/06/12 02:59 AM
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Heres a way - tell the girls you see that you won't add them on Facebook cause you have this romantic notion that the only way you guys should communicate with each other is in person or on the phone. If she's suspicious, show her your Facebook which is free from this shit cause you tell it to every girl you date!
/r/seduction12/06/12 11:22 PM
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