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Have a life where you meet people and do stuff. But if you're religious join a religious singles group.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:26 AM
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Being loved and loving someone is as badic to the human experience as having friends or parents. It’s better to see the truth and learn through living then to sit back and try nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:25 PM
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Please, I’m stronger and went more when it comes to dating than you. You have the luxury because you were lucky. Instead of being thankful you look down on people. People who have went through more than you ever could and insult them. You were never tested. You never had to choose between the person you wanted to be and the life you wanted to have. I know I am less sensitive than you because I have gone through more, because people like me would never go on the internet calling men weak and sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:16 PM
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You really think men have changed more than women in recent history? People are people and men aren’t any more weaker them before. The game changed and women have gained and men have lost. Which is good for equality but bad for dating. The idea that suddenly men are weaker is just shaming men for things that are often out of their control. Which of course you would never believe because I must be weak and my struggles in dating have nothing to do with being 5’3 Asian guy as your article says. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:04 PM
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Women would rather be alone than be with them. They are insecure because they have been judged not good enough which women have made clear to them. Online dating, meeting women in real life, approaching women, meeting women in their social circle, women they are friends with. They aren’t projecting insecurity onto women. Women , men society tell them they aren’t good enough. Men are just saying what’s peopke already tell to them. You act like the insecurity is unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:37 PM
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Men mock women who think they deserve men of wealth and physical attributes. They don’t hate women who want a hug and get ignored on online dating. Or at least them men who acknowledge such women exist. Women who don’t feel like women because they aren’t physically built like one. Ugly men are still scene as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:14 PM
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Status. Women want men who reflect well on them more then what they provide mostly. For example a women who knew the same man the same amount of time would rather go on a date with a guy who makes people laugh rather then someone who makes her laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:20 AM
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It’s most of it though. I mean if all female status, power and achievement requires her to be married with kids, all the other stuff matters way less. Obviously it’s a shit deal for women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:19 AM
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I have worked harder and longer than most. It’s a painful moment when you realize that the things you can’t change are more important than the things you can change and the time you sacrifice and work for never pays off. You have control of your effort but not of your success and when you are alone in your thirties body starting to get run down from the years of running marathons and lifting weights do you realize, it’s time to start living for today and not sacrifice for tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:21 AM
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If you can’t get a date, well it’s not something I r see puked do but I can’t blame a guy working his assort for years and still failing that he lies about his height in online dating by a few inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:16 AM
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Not my experience. I was pretty social and the guy who new everyone. Not that it hurts, but at the end of the day physical requirements that you often can’t control matter a lot more then your social circle size
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:14 AM
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But th guy beneth them didnt bang them then forget them. If these women can get a good man that isnt "beneath them" into long term relationship where the guy isnt abusive, weird, cheating, then they absolutly should. But a women I believe can get into a relationship with a guy she believes is beneath him and a women can absolutly help a guy with his insecurity more then she can convince a guy to commit to them. Not saying she should have to, but sayings its a better option. Its up to her if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:30 PM
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In my real life, the only women who reported having issues in dating who were also social and in shape were women in their 50's +. Not that they didnt find people but I believe they had a harder time and had to compriomise on things such as only dating men near their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:57 PM
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No, its because they have a harder time, but no one wants to accept that maybe its not ALL their fault. People think men want to force women to date them. No one wants that. They just want to acknowledge that there is a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:54 PM
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I dont think guys have ever claimed that looks dont matter the most for women in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:00 AM
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All relationships that are important need to be emotionally supportive. You need to know the people in your life want good things for you . If you aren’t getting emotional support form your SO , then what the hell are you getting? Not saying your SO is the only source but if they don’t support you emotionally then I dint see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:06 PM
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Confidence is not built on achievement. That’s why imposter syndrome exists. That’s why all the people in Hollywood suffer despite success and fame and money and looks. Confidence is knowing who you are and what’s important to you. It’s about knowing you can control and that your success does not define you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:04 PM
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Resilience comes from success.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:31 AM
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You know what. I hope one day you find yourself in a better place. Truly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:25 AM
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You must be fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:10 AM
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Is it better to say women have changed and men have stayed the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:58 PM
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Validation. That’s it. Having pain validated and to not be seen as lazy and less then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:33 PM
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Guys won’t go evil because they don’t get what’s entitled to them. They go evil because no one acknowledges their pain. If society accepted that many men struggle and as a society they are deserving of support, not judgement nor derision. To be seen as a person in pain , not a virus to be cut out. Then we wouldn’t have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:32 PM
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This here is the problem. That men are not deserving of empathy. No guy expects to guilt a women into a relationship. They just want it accepted that it is hard and often not worth it . You are the person people are trying to change .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:29 PM
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Almost every guy is insecure and they all pretty much learn their value to women through relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:27 PM
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They don’t expect empathy, they expect people to accept their lives in experience irrespective of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:02 AM
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Yes. I ran marathons. Made a lot of friends till my knee messedup, But I have a lot more confidence in my social skills and my value as a friend. But it took time and a hobby I would do even if I never made friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:02 AM
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social hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:54 AM
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As a 5’3 asian guy who has been told he is funny, friendly and the guy who knows everyone I don’t agree. That isn’t my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:23 PM
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Yeah, and that’s how we know standards changed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:37 PM
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Women today more more about what the man they are with means about them rather then what type of life they will have with the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:27 AM
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Because people who dont have something value it more when they get it, and if a guy cant find happiness in one area he will develop himself in others and will base his happiness based on other things. IS there a guy who is depressed at home unahppy and doing nothing with his life better. Probably not. But a guy who knows works to live a happy life who has few options, because he doesnt care about the things that makes him attractive, or refuses to do things that might help him find women better.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:06 AM
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I have not met a women that was worth paying people thousands of dollars to stab me in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:22 AM
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I find its less important that you are funny and confident. It matters more if people like you better then her in a given social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:20 AM
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Yeah as a 5'3 asian guy who lifted 4 days a week while running 30+ miles a week. Who was described as the guy who knew everyone as a funny guy by more then a few guys; I think you overestimate how much you can control regarding your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:18 AM
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That’s like saying you shouldn’t acknowledge racism because it won’t stop racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:28 AM
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I like my self. I know IM trying. But does the world like or even care about me for the things I like about myself. Not really. I work out a bunch. I ask people how they are and am interested in their life. I enjoy playing miniture games and painting. I make an effort to take care of my own well being. I go out of my way to plan things for myself and for friends. People have told me I am funny and they seem to enjoy my company althoug admittedly my humor is not for everyone which is fine. But ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:12 PM
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I remember reading comments on clips from the devil wears prada thinking, women are only nice because they have to be to someone of higher status with power. Like all niceness was fake and manipulative. If you were good at stuff important like your job then you were still a good person as long as you didn’t lie or sabayon people. Niceness in that movie was a weakness and based on the comments from what I assumed wear women, a lot of women agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:11 PM
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I don’t pursue anyone at this point in my life. I just be the best version of myself and try to meet good people. My experience has shown me what pursuing dating results in. Or dating in general does. I’m not a kid in his twenties or even in their thirties
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:51 AM
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You can’t control who you are attracted to. And I dint know what a 5 or a 6 is . But the women who were single my age I met running and working out who were not in as good of shape as me were not interested. And I say this with experience, for me it’s a bad idea to pursue people you are not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:42 AM
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This is basically what almost what everyone will tell you. Because you will never ever proove tom someone that you have done enough to deserve a chance at love. That the game is the problem not you. No matter how much you do or say to counter, they will always say it is your fault. Im nto saying we can all be better people or improve ourself. But in the end good people who put in more effort then the average person into being the best version of theself for themself can still fail at datign for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:07 PM
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If you dont meet the fitness / social status requirements for a women, you dont get a date or really even a converstation. You need one to get a chance at the other. people who read books are more empathetic. The people I know who read more arent cleaning up in dating. Espcially in HS or college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:59 PM
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It’s the point where you realize you have to change in ways others might think are better to get what you want but not in ways you want to change. I stopped working out as much when I got negative effects from doing it too much and started painting warhammer miniatures and playing at my local board game shop. I like my change but it ain’t going to help me get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:04 PM
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As someone who found the answer for himself, it’s at the point where you have to be someone you don’t want to be to get what you want or the self improvement itself like working out too much has negative effects in your life. It’s a painful thing when you realize that the things you can’t change matter more then the things that do. But that’s something you have to go out in the world and find out for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:01 PM
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How do you have a conversation with someone who doesnt look at you or make an effort? You are right it is a two way street, and I am making an effort. I have friends I have coinfidence. I am interested and I do invest in people; I know you dont believe it and honestly I dont care if you believe me or not. But I tried . Im not some kid who tried for a few years . I burned myself into my late thrities thinking that I shouldnt give up. But I know how it is. No one cares or acknowledges the effort. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:27 AM
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I dont know about you but rejection never made it easier next time. Everytime I was rejected it felt like I was not only being rejected by that person but like I was reliving all the previous rejections by all the previous women. And no matter how much I tried to control my emotions and tell me it didnt matter. Those emotions always boiled to the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:16 PM
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As long as men are the pursuers, they will approach women who are physically attractive. An older women with experience knows that the best way to get what they want is to go after the men they want. If a women is complaining why men their age dont approach them, they arent very wise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:57 PM
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People kill themsleves. You know that right. Men kill themselves a lot. Its like the highest reason for young asian males to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:51 PM
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Only someone who hasnt really known failure would say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:50 PM
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understanding rejection is a part of life doesnt help anyone. All it does is minimize someones pain. You want to tell a women who's kid has cancer that life isnt fair. You think that helps? Acknowleding that rejection causes real long term pain and trauma that logically causes people to give up in a world where your value is based only success can help.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:49 PM
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As a 5'3 balding asian guy... Whenever someone say they are not attractive I kinda roll my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:26 PM
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I dont know what to tell you. In my experience approaching women or meeting women through friends who were single, I got ignored. Women would avoid eye contact and answer questions with one word answers. And this was like at running meetups, its not like cornered them drukenly at a bar. Sometimes I would be introduced to women by mutual friends and it would be obvious from like a few questions where they answered in one word answers they had no interest in talking to me. And in my mind I would t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:47 AM
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Not including online dating, its the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:15 PM
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Depends on your standards for looks/age and the amoutn yo uput yourself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:14 PM
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I think most of the time a guy approaches and/or messages someone on online dating and fail, its because of looks. Conversation /flirt assumes someone will engage in converstion with you. Most of the time I have gotten rejected they didnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:12 PM
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You wont resent people who say that the reason you dont have life is because you didnt try. You wont resent women who reject you.You may enjoy your life more. Not improving yourself doesnt mean you do nothing. The lie people say is that if you improve yourself you will be happy. You will find love. You will have more self esteem. The trutyh is none of that is really true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:14 AM
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It’s only a problem if they want to know what love is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:36 PM
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You’re in a bubble that paints the other side as crazy and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:45 AM
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If you can’t understand why people might disagree with you, then you don’t really understand their point of view and are too ignorant to judge them. You are just as delusional if you think your judgement isn’t. Asked on ego and actually cones from a place of love and not of hate. Just as those you look down on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:26 AM
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Dude we dont live in a pure capitalistic society. Weve been modifying capitalism all along and it needs to be modified further. Or else humaity will proibably end as people stop affording to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:50 AM
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How do you know you are the majority and not just living in a bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:38 AM
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Heres a thought. What is true for you isnt true for me. People live absudrd lives under absurd conditions. That doesnt mean their truths are absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:37 AM
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Or the point for some after trying for years is to realize that the things you can change dont matter as much as the things you can. And when you suggest that, no matter how much you try, no one believes it. because when people say life isnt fair, they dont actually know what they are talkign about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:18 AM
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or you can do all that for years and years and realize it didnt help. then when you complain people will say you didn't try hard enough. Thats the secret, its never hard enough becasue people dont really care about effort they only care about results.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:17 AM
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I think a better question is to rank the affects of difficulty in relationships and dating. None of the following is neccesarily a bad thing but they have had a bad effect on dating Equality Social Media Porn
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:44 PM
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I think a better question is do you express to the men that you value them as much as you express to that to women in your life. Secondary question is do you complain about the women in your life as much as you complain about the men in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:41 PM
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In general I think that women always wondered what being with a man meant about them. But now more then ever looks matter more with the advent of social media. Where before they would be more about job and maybe even relay how he treats her, now if a guys value isnt demonstrable easily on social media, then they are less valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:39 PM
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Look you are probably right, but there is difference between cooking and being nice/confident/ treating someone well. There is a difference between beign attracted to a skill and being attrated to someone's char5acter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:45 AM
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No it would mean an average women would have a better chance at getting a firs date if they can cook. If you are single it would also mean that you cant find a person who cooks well and thats in part why you are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:07 PM
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Most people think like= attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:55 PM
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Good men still desire love. Good men still want sex. A starving person is still in pain when everyone else around them is fed. It’s easy in your 20’s and thirties to be strong. But flurries and on… Tell a women unable to have kids they should just be happy that all her friends and family are able to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:49 PM
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At work, Some girl in her 20's jockingly called a guy in his 50's a fairy because he liked to say poof. The guy knowing she meant nothing by it said he would rather be called a warlock. I tried to explain to said young girl that maybeee you shouldnt call a guy that. To her confusion she asked me what was wrong with calling a guy a warlock. I couldnt stop laughing. I know slang changes but I didnt realize we have come so far that we are actually losing somewhat homophobic slurs from peoples vocab…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:05 PM
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We all know good people who fail at dating. Man or women. Men will be truthful though because it usually comes down to looks. When women say they want a funny guy, or honest or loyal. Yet at the same time, they invest little time into vetting or end up with guys who treat them poorly. The nice guys you say are nice guys, guys who may even say themselves are good guys are not what we are actualyl talkign about. When a guy says nice guy, he means a good man. When women say nice guy, she means a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:02 PM
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Honestly its less about n count and more about a women who slept around in their social circle. No guy is wifing someone who slept with all his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:24 AM
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Women chase attractive men to if they were responsible for approaching , asking men out, and being expected to prove your worthiness for sex. The average man by virtue of taking this responsibility have more character in the world of dating (Not relationships) then women. At the end of the day its easier for a man to ask out 100 beutiful women, then it is to be happy in a relationship where there is no sex because there is no physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:22 AM
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fix... that... Some guys here make it sound like hitting the gym for 5 years and gaining a social cirlce is enough for every guy to have girls interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:42 PM
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You saying 70 percent of single women within the dating range of people ciomplaing? Average single women in their 20's is not obese. Maybe overweight but not obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:29 PM
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I have been referred to by more then one person as the person who knows everyone. Yes I have a social circle. Yes its a fairly large social circle. And yues often these women who ignore me will often be friends of women I am friends with. Thats always fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:43 AM
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Avoid eye contact, closed body, answer question with single words. And this is in social situations. Meetups and such. Then I will see the same girl approach my better looking friend. Women who are married are fine. Or ones in a relationships who mention they have a BF in the first minute of conversation are good to. Its not like the only people I approach are women, much less women I want to date. Its a social situation your there to socialize. Meet people make friends. But as a 5'3 asian guy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:41 AM
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No. It showed me how much insecure women can lie and be cruel and hate themself because they lie and are cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:28 AM
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If the girl was conistent as in this is how she goes about dating and sex and she brought value to my life, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:27 AM
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With how single women react, it is not normal to approach women in a social situation. Looks matter and you realize very quickly how women will make up their mind about you before you even open your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:25 AM
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It doesnt make the intrinsically bad people not wanting to fuck a guy. It doesnt make a guy instrinsically bad if he doesnt want to fuck a women. but men will almost all agree that loosk matter the most. Women will claim men have bad souls or arent real men. Unattractive women can still be good people. Men who cant get a date are not seen as good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:31 PM
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Because society does not accept that women are just as superficial as men and care about material wealth, and correctly criuticized them for that in the same way they criticize men, then you absolutly could not. Because men who fail do so becasue they are not good people or weak in some way. When in fact its about money and superficial looks. Its not about having generic male goals, it is about what women truly desire and care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:28 AM
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No. I woudnt . No that isnt. I approach a lot of people because thats what you do when you meet friends of friends or do some social activities like join a runnign group. You talk to people who share intersts and or friends. If I was interested, I would flirt or ask them out. And if they arent interested they would reject me. And we might still be friends or acquantences. IF they make no attempt at conversation or basic respect, while making an effort with other people, they have no desire to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:12 PM
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control is wanting to be treated with basic respect? especially when you give it. Or else you dont have the person in your life? What the hell are you taling about. I expect nothing from people but I expect basic respec from people in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:20 PM
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In what way is me having a bad opinion of someone an assumption of control ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:09 PM
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I mean would you make a girl your girlfriend if they had casual sex with all your friends and extended social Circle? Not only known about it but seen it happen. What about a girl that ignored you and hit on all your friends, was rejected by them, then decided was interested in you? Assuming of course you found this women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:49 PM
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Single. But I would rather have been in a horrible relationship then never had a relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:21 AM
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You ever watch the devil wears prada. Look up a clip. If you ntoice no one talks shit about the women. And theya re all horrible selfish assholes. Women see kindness these days as weakness or something only people in lower positions of power do. Which is something women do a lot. They see cruelty as honesty. As confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:48 AM
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Yeah, just be confident brah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:45 AM
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It shows me how invisbile privlidge is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 11:07 PM
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most young men dont know the difference. They think they are horny when really they are lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:43 PM
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You mine as well shame women for growing up and realizing they were insecure and not taking responsibility for their own success and happiness. You mine as well shame women for realizing they want a guy to treat them well and be a good husband, partner and father. Not some guy who looks good on social media that can afford a 100k wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:38 PM
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Male criticism of women is misogyny. Women criticizing average women means she's a pick me Criticizing average women in dating is like trying to make reasonable laws for gun control. They will fight their battle to have 1000 round automatice ar clips so they can make sure they dont loose the ability to own a handgun to take to the gun range.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:59 PM
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It’s funny because people are so used to taliking about self improvement like it’s a few year process. Not like you are spending a decade reading you are now in your mid thirties realizing that now is the time your hard work should payoff. That you sacrificed , grew and questioned everything about yourself. Only to realize it didn’t matter. I think you don’t understand. The stories people tell of hard eork. They don’t end with you being alone in you 30’s and 49’s unless they are telragedies. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:40 PM
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As a 5’3 Asian guy, not in my experience. Sometimes the effort you put in simply reveals how little the things you can change matters compared to the things you can’t. And you realize you have to be something you don’t want to be if you want to get something you want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:48 PM
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But what happens when you become the best version of yourself and you realize it doesnt matter and that the best version of yourself is one women arent attracted to. That the things youc an change dont matter or dont matter enough. DO you choose to become what women believe the best version of yourself is or what you think the best version of yourself is. Do you choose to be someone you dont want to be in order to have the life you dont want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:58 AM
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Shaping them self to be high status, not to get men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:57 AM
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You think men are trying to be manipulative?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:43 PM
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Dude I wish I was 5'7 Is 5'7 even really short?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:01 PM
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We all do. Even more if you don’t watch tv
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:25 AM
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You probably already have .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:23 AM
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Evidently my life story is incel content https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/4df4iq/i_dont_understand_why_my_life_is_so_different/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:30 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/4df4iq/i_dont_understand_why_my_life_is_so_different/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:28 PM
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76k + at 25 is top 10 percent. over 5'10 is 50 percent , so 5% 6 foot guy 15% and average income is 50 percent so yeah that one is closer to top 7.5% But yeah, is that realistic to you? How many men are attractive? 50 percent of those guys ....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:24 PM
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Im in my 40's and never even had a date. I am the friggin mod of fa30plus. Not because I asked, but because it was offered to me. What works for me may not work for you. But I know how you feel and I know this life is shit. But if you are here talking that means you have made the choice to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:19 PM
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5'10 guy or taller making more then 75k a year in his 20's is top 5%. A 6 foot guy making moer then 40k is top 5% guy Thats unrealistic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:15 PM
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When you decide you wont have anyone, you will ask yourself what your best life would look like. What your best self will look like. And often its a painful and ugly answer. And when you figure that out you can only go about building that life/person and see if its a life worth living. But you are free from any assumptions of how much money you make, what you shoudl look like or what society deems as acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:05 PM
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IM a 5'3 asian guy . I was never attractive no matter how good of shape I was and making money didnt matter when a girl wouldnt even look me in the eye when I tried to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:03 PM
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If society would acknowledge women have unrealistic standards and that men who struggle to date arent to blame, then there would be noconflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:57 PM
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Whats next is a question you have to ask yourself and you can only answer it if you really accept you may really be alone. The better question is why can't you calmy and peacfeully accept you will probably be alone. You may always feel lonely but that means you cant still look for something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:55 PM
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The funny think is you thing things cant get worse or by shaming men it will make things not get worse. As if shaming men isnt what hasnt been happening all along. You think tate is the worse but no. But keep pouring more gasoline on the fire. The next man wont even advocate for marriage or taking care of women. The next man may not even advocate getting a job. The next man may talk about how every man should own a gun. All waiting for the next trump to coalesce around. Tate is a con man . He se…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:44 PM
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They made laws to help women get into college when the numbers were 60/40 in favor of men. Now its the opposite and no one is saying a thing. Either mainstream acknowledges the difficulty men are going rhrough or things will get worse. If mainstream rejects rogan, then peterson, then tate... Who do you think will come next. Someone worse then Tate. And the numbers backing them will only increase. Because lets be honest, the trend of uneducated anddisillusioned men will only grow. Celebrate the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:22 PM
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this is just prrof that everyone exists in echo chambers. The fact you dont here about him yet his incarcerations has thousands of upvotes just shows how out of touch some people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:02 PM
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Plenty of men know what its like to get into a relationship, then suddenly get attention from women who ignored him. Plenty of married men know what its lik to get older with money and gain confidence and have more women give them attention. And plenty of women will throw away their long term relationship because the reality of being with a HV or a fun man is not what its cracked up to be often.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:20 PM
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The more time I spend on r/foreveralinewomen the more I realize that women that fail at dating hate average female dating entitlement as much as the average guy. That the anger and resentment men feel in dating isnt becasue they are men or entitled, its because they are human. Almost every blue pill women would rather not be alive then forever be a 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:31 AM
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I was watching the devil wears prada clips for some reason. As I read the clips I realized that what I assume is women all basically accepted and almost seemed to be okay with the shitty behaviour toxic and shitty person who are clearly not nice people in the film. it was okay because it was honest. It was okay because they were generally cruel and mean to everyone and their cruelty had a purpose, it was not just about being hurtful. Now according to many the boyfriend whois generally nice but s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:45 PM
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I’m old enough to remember people taking Andrew dice clay seriously. And now we have Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:08 AM
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Nobody notices average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:05 AM
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Both genders see the top percentage and think thats average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:21 AM
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The harder I worked to be a quality person, the more I realized that the things I could change mattered less then the things I couldnt change. You cant get a date. Women ignore you. Well you go out and build a large social circle, become succesful professionally, work out a ton... Then you go out into the world and get the same reaction from women. No one talks about how effort can show you how little your actions matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:16 AM
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Yeah women can total tell my mental health on online dating or when they avoid eye contact with me day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:31 AM
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because you may like your personality. Your friends migth liek your personality. But if women dont lie your personality you must have a bad personality. As if having a personality is like having money. You either have it, a lot of it or have none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 12:55 AM
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A man who is looking to settle down in his 30's who always had options will tend to date younger. Most women I know in their 30's who get married for the first time are dating /marrying men in their fourties who have already been married once.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 12:50 AM
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And women thing me being a 5'3 asian guy has no effect on my dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:38 AM
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Pretty sure both the husband and wife are expected to prioritize home over career and traditional gender roles say nothing of the wife having no input on how the money is spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:37 AM
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a 6 foot guy making more then 75k in his 20's is top 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:30 PM
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5'10 guy or taller making more then 75k a year is top 5 percent in your twenties. A 6 foot guy making moer then 40k is top 5% guy (approx)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:25 PM
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I remember I went running with a good looking frinend of mine. I realized how he lived in a different world then me where all the women made eyecontact with him and smiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:42 AM
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No they just do 95% of the dating. And I treat women in dating better then they treat me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:33 AM
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As a 5'3 asian guy that is not my experience whtsoever. And I see a lot of guys like me who also have the same experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 07:42 PM
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When men talk abotu dating here they talk about getting a date. Which is what men struggle with. Men arent worrying about if they are relationship material when they get rejeted irl and online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:39 PM
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Men are at their best when they have something to endure the bad times for. A man seeking happiness usually finds himself seeking hedonism. And it does not make most men happy. You ever watch true detective?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:02 AM
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The one who complains less about their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:20 AM
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Men have had to endure shit jobs since the beginning of history. They are built and at their best enduiring for a family. For someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:18 AM
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Yeah but you said you are only interested in people who want to be interesting and clever . Not people who are clever and interesting to you. As a man I find women will care more to Go on a date that her social circle thinks is funny and clever. Someone who can command a group . Instead of how that person is with the person they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:10 PM
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I take issue with the idea of wanting someone to be funny and interesting. In other words that they are funny and interesting to everyone. Instead of let me get to know them and find out if they are funny and interesting to me. Naturally. Not as somethign they want to be but someone who they are. I never said that being a good person is enough to be with forever, but its enough to make it worth getting to no a person. Im not looking to be entertained by someone who is trying to be funny or inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:41 PM
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its kinda funny because all these men seem to want to shame men who are happy to just worship some women they will never be with. Meanwhile all the men and their waifu's dont even care or barely notice. Maybe its a side effect from OF, streaming, camming, and online dating. Technology has not only made men more lonely but made them more aware of their lonliness. Honestly I see this trend only continuing and growing with the younger generation. The hostility toward women as long as some women see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:29 PM
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call me dumb but I dont understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:11 PM
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Would I go on a date with a good person. Sure. And if our interests didnt align then it probably wouldnt work out. But funny and interesting. That isnt somethign like money or height. its not absolute. And I care more if someone is interesting to me then if they are interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:02 PM
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I have afriend who was in the military and has a bunch of stories. A friend who I have common interest in who is always down to catch a a movie or try a new restaurant or go hiking. A man who would stop whatever he was doing to help me if I need it becasue we both know we would never abuse the kindness of the other. Thats a good man, and you have to realyl be paying attention to even realize it. Clever/funny people are nice, but its superficial. It has nothign to do with being a good man and in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:57 PM
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the thing is , Not everyoen wants to be clever or funny. And they are interesting but no women will take the time to out a man is masculine man who doesnt have anything to prove, interesting. The most masculine men I know, you would never tell because they dont give a fuck. Like really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:52 PM
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Most nice guys are invisible. Its only the nice guys who arent really nice guys that you see. Its like saying all feminists hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:49 PM
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Nah... I see a lot of maculine men who are nice, they dont date as much as masculine men who arent nice. Assholes are just not as exciting nice guys. Hell a good masculine man never has to proove they are masculine. I think a lot of times people perceive assholes as being masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:48 PM
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hyperamy back in the day meant women had kids and families. There arent the same consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:52 AM
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People look at them. Everywhere they go women smile at them. Imagine going through life where every women smiled at you. Young old. They all listen to you, care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:51 AM
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Probably not to the person making more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:49 AM
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Because he is good looking succesful fun and interesting. the type of man that can care abotu N count is the type of man who has no problem getting sex. Unless you are attracted to men who struggle to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:33 AM
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I sopent a month just trying to make eye contact with women I am attracted to, never did I realize more how I was invisible to women who were not standing behind a register and paid to interact with me. Man that was a shitty month.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:24 AM
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Everyone's choices have consequences. Thats not misogyny, that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:55 AM
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Personalities that women are attracted to. You can have a personality that people like. You can have a personality that makes you a good friend and a large social circle. The idea that a good personality is one that will supercede your looks to women isnt true. Any women knows the same thing that men know. the things about themslef whether that includes their personality are often times not attractive or meaningful to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:56 AM
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Does the average guy care? Probably not. But the above average guy cares more then the average guy because he can be picky. And the number of women who have been rejected versus the number of men for n count is probably way higher for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:43 PM
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Guy with dating struggles who has this issue doesnt have a prioblem getting a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:41 PM
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In my mind I dont think the average guy cares. But the guy in his 20/30s making more then 100 k and over 6 foot. He has options and if he is single he probably does care. Because he probably been with those type of women enough and has no problem getting them. So the average attractive guy who women want in a relationship probably care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:40 PM
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If you are a guy who isnt getting any, you really dont care. If you are a man who has no problem getting some, then it doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:16 PM
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Ehh... if you have a problem getting into relationships or end up with men who cheat, then mayeb you should. But if you dont then it really doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:15 PM
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Gaslighting now. Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:03 PM
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Well I guess in your life its not black and white that you accused me of making stuff up and never never acknowledged you were wrong. But I guess there is nothing ironic about the guy who uses a study to make a point, then suddenly says its not all black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:22 PM
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If you think short guys have more FWB and sexual partners then the average guys sure. Go wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:14 PM
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Can we just take a moment to realize you were wrong about what comes out of my ass before you move on to the next argument you are trying to pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:08 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609515308614 Criteria for Inclusion and Exclusion The only inclusion criterion was an active sexual life with a steady female partner, without any related complaints. why you gotta be mean man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:49 PM
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I think the study defines this first as men with a steady partner. So yeah if you are a short guy with a GF or wife, you getting more sex. Not that single short men are dating more or have more sexual partners. Or that single short guys are having more sex. Or as they put it - The only inclusion criterion was an active sexual life with a steady female partner,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:41 PM
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No one can tell you anything. There are too many variables. Your best option is to go out there and have a life and meet women and see if it matters. Stop lsitening to what people say online because what is true for others may not be true for you. Maybe it matters maybe it doesnt. Maybe the women you are attracted to care and maybe they dont. Maybe youa re expecting hot women to throw themself at you or maybe you are attracted to unconventional looking women who are dying for any male attention.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:22 PM
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its fine in your 20's and even early thirties but after that... Yeah. People move on. They move for work or for family. They have no time for themself much life to emoptionally support a friend. And its hard to have a friend who's life priorities is so different after they get married and have kids. But thats my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:11 PM
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I dont want disability, I just want her to loose her job and be forced off all social media forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:09 PM
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Life as a single friend ususally means losing friends to make new ones to lose those friends to make new ones. You arent building any lasting memories with anyone. And if things get bad, there is no assumption that a friend will help you emotionally or physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:07 PM
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If women were the ones who approached men and asked them out for dates, they wouldnt have to preselect for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:20 AM
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She is happy with the way things are and assumes you are to. She explicitly told you what she wanted , you did not assuming you never told her you did not want to be just friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:44 PM
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You don’t have to believe me about economic success not guaranteeing you women . But self improvement and money ain’t going to mean you can get a date for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:58 PM
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For a good part of my life I was making good money. Had a nice house and a nice car. Its not like it came up in conversation with women who wouldnt even look me in the eye when I approached them. Id sit by my pool in my empty house alone with my dog listening to the echos wondering why I needed such a big place. That is my experience believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:27 PM
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Who is paying for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:19 PM
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I am an 5'3 asian guy. I worked out hard for more then a decase. Ran marathons lifted 5 times a day. I had a large social circle and often times referred to as the guy who knows everyone. ANd I never got a date. I have never been on a date and I am in my fourties And Im sure you will say I lack self awareness or my effort was placed incorrectly. Maybe you think I am lying. But I know self improvement is not the path to guaranteed success. And I believe in all liklihood you dont believe that I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:56 PM
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Yeah that’s what the rich say about the poor. Just life yourself from your bootstrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:16 PM
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Allow men to be proud of and support men. There is no figure I can think of that comes to mind who hasnt beeen demonized as misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:24 AM
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The type of women who could be my best friend already always have boyfriends. Or they aren’t attractive. The sad thing is you don’t realize that for a lot of guys, they can’t settle for looks but they can settle for personality. Because at the end of the day a guy has to approach someone and ask them out. That requires a level of physical attraction if a guy is looking for a relationship. You need a personality to be happy, but you need physical attraction just to ask the person out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:01 AM
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Do you think men care about what type of men the platonic women in their life can get ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:47 AM
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Skepticism that he is a good man who puts in honest effort and has self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:56 AM
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They are kind to me too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:15 AM
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Im sure there are men like that out there. But they arent the majority of men. But the war is lost for men so there is not point in arguing the point. The men I know who do not struggle with dating do not think of themselves as nice guys. Any guy who struiggles with dating is met with skepticism. God knows I would never talk about my sturggles with any average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:57 PM
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Depends what you want. its a lot on online dating to be average and not want someone who isnt obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:54 PM
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I think its greyer then that, you give someone an organ, you cant demand it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:48 PM
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This si the type of thing you start saying when you get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:47 PM
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No it became that. Just like incel used to mena involunatary celibate became mysgonistic resentful man and woke became not about black rights and became about women and trans rights. This didnt happen by accident. There is a war of words going on that is defining morality and culture. There is no word to say you are a good guy who struggles with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:43 PM
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No nice guy means that anyone who is actually a nice guy is secretly a nice guy. Its just a way for women to argue why so many of them arent actually attracted to menw ho treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:30 PM
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I dunno. Women are fine with being able to take care of themself financially and many dont care about kids. So all thats left is that they want a man to engage them emotionally. And guess what. Kindness does not move the needle with an average guy who isnt super weatlhy or succesful. Even between women kindness and understanding is seen as weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:28 PM
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Is it though? I understand it can be in many situations. But not always. I think any guy who gets mad becasue he thinks he implicity should get a chance at dating because of their relationship is surely insecure. But is it so weird that a guyu might want to know a girl before he asks her out. Instead of basing all attraction on a very superficial attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:25 PM
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If your marriage ended because of the orgy, maybe indirectly, would it have been worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:32 AM
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And Im sure a women from ppd would count if a guy paid. Why some women would not care if a guy slept with a lot of women is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:30 AM
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No one includes prostutes in their body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:12 AM
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The truth is , that youwill only find out later as the current later generation of women who are single move into their 60's whther or not it was better to be alone with no kids or be with a monotonous guy while boring, may have been reliable and someone to share their life with. People change and what you want and enjoy today may not be what you want tomorrow. And friends move on. They dont always stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:47 PM
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I cant really understand how a guy can pursue a women or be with a women he isnt attractive to. Seems like a big cruel lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:04 AM
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Women are uncomfortable idea that they feel as deeply, are just as afraid, and just as weak as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:51 AM
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Yes I have tried for more then a decade to improve in ways that would make me more attractive to women. Not that you would believe me. You will refuse to even entertain the idea that I have taken mor eresponsibility then the other people I date. I took responsibility for dating yet failing into my thirties. The thing is you think that its easy. That everyone you know could have poured themself into this endeavor yet have no success for as long as I did. With everything you say you diminish all I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:34 AM
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Oh I never got a date, not sure if you read what I wrote. Not that it made sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:45 PM
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Women have the right to do what they want. No one should be forced to date anyine they dont want to. But women seem to resent men for being attracted to them. Because they think they deserve better then their options. Which is no different to men resenting women for not dating them. Telling a man isnt good enough to get a date is just as fucked up as telling a women she sint good enough to date the man who just used her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:30 PM
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You think men complaining about how women wont date them is somehow less morale then women telling men that they arent good enough to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:21 PM
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The wrong type of effort. Typical. You cant believe that all the men you know who are in relationships have in all liklihood not spent as muich effort to date. As much time in the gym before they got a relationship. As much time self reflecting. As much time socializing. And I know my situation is worse then yours because you could choose to not date to never have another relationship and you dont choose too. I may neer get the girl. I meay never been in love. I spent my 20's and thirties thinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:13 PM
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No all women do is complain about the quality of men they can get. Men get told here they got to lift and get better personalities when the cant get the women they want to date. Women dont tell each other anywhere near as often by women that they have shitty personalities or are out of shape. And most abuse happens both ways. Couples abuse each other. But all you ever here of is one side of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:04 PM
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Women are constantly talked about shitty men and shitty relationships and being used for sex. Women are runnign aroudn demanding more from men and resent anyone who says maybe they themselves arent good enough. Lets face it, one sex gets told way more from their own sex and the opposite sex that they arent good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:58 PM
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For most men, acknowledgement is enough. Men who complain about their situation aren’t expecting people to change. That’s the incorrect assumption people make in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:50 AM
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I have tried harder and longer then most men. I used to think selfd iomprovement psotitivity and work woudl find me happiness. But the harder you work the more time you put into it, sometimes the ore you realize how pointless it is. I know you wont believe me. you will think that there is no way I put in more time then the men you kow and never got a date. That I couldnd have had a large social circle and was in shape and still failed to ever get a date. That I have to have alwasy been negative,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:21 AM
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Yeah tell me you have been rejectred 200 times online and never gotten a single date. Tell me that you have gotten ignored hundresd of times in real life. Tell me you walk through life without a person near your age of the oposite sex making eye contact with you unless youa re behind a register. And tell me everytime you express pain over it you are told you are entitled . People who rejected me didnt know me. They didnt give me the time of day. They rejected me because they disliked the very id…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:03 AM
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The more I met women near my age. The more social I became. The more I realized that women didnt want to date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:41 AM
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The secret no one tells you is the more you get rejected while trying the more you realize it isnt about stuff you can control. The netter in shape I got. the more friends I had. the more I approached. The more rejected I got and the more I saw men who were less fun, interesting, funny or even social do better then me. The more I saw rejecting me and pursuing men that werent approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:39 AM
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I have been the funniest guy in a group. The most well liked, women still prefer the attractive men over my 5'3 asian ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:38 AM
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Have you ever asked someone out you were not attracted to at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:36 PM
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Less emotional support from other men. Less emotional support from society The idea of being a good person is tied to a male identity that has little to do with who you are as a person but what you have or you can provide. Men who are rejected by society are ore likely to not engage in society and in many cases create negative consequences to society. Women have more ways to value themself in the eyes of society then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:21 AM
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The only women I know irl who are in shape without child issues who have issues are women around 50. Not to say that they dont find someoen but they have a much harder time which they are not used to. Also they end up often with men older so their standrds change. But the men you want will either already be in a relationship or be not lookign to settle down. If you want a good guy who will make a good partner and be reliable you will be fine. If you want a romance storty where a man will sweep y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:47 PM
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How many times have you met a happy couple where the guy said he was not initially attracted to his wife. How many times have you has the wife said the same thing about the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:44 PM
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As a man. I one cares how you got what you got, only you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:56 AM
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At some point you havt to choose between who you want to be and the life you want to live. And you dont know the actual line. Men go to the gym they try to make money. They all try online dating. They try to socialize and meet women; but at the end of the day some thing s might go against who they want to be, what they like abotu themself and their morals. So they choose not to adapt. They accept the world for what it is and choose not to play the game. I feel like we all know people who have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:40 PM
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When the initial threshold eliminates 80 percent of men, how important are the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:30 PM
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And if he was a 5'3 he would not have made the cut
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:27 PM
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What does it mean to bring something to the table ? If hes a good dude and they enjoy their tiome together , is that not somethign ov value? Sex? someone to talk about your day with or do somthing with. I get if they are an emotional, ecopnomic, or physical liability; but what does it mean to bring something to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:19 PM
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I think its worse because most women here know of men in their lives who have said they want to be with them and woudl treat them well. Any women who dates doesnt know a life where no one finds them attractive and all men treat them like they dont esxist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:43 PM
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There was a story in npr where scientist used an equation to prove that alien life was very likely. Then a women who taught at harvard overheard some men talking about this. They sat down and decided to apply the same logic to dating. She wanted a man taller then her who was as educted and succesful as her. the truth is, some men have lost before they open their mouth. Ive realized that charisma matters a lot less then what peopel think. And a lot of charisma is being what other people want. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:41 PM
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Its always sad to me that people people believe that others struggle in ways they dont. Its kinda shitty having a social circle and still getting rejected by women. Getting ignored by by friends who introduce you to their friends. Going to places where you are liked and have friends, only for new people to ignore you. Its always kinda sad because you'll see the same women who ignores you approach better looking men. Its so apparent how little friendship and charisma matter. It always feels like …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:37 PM
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You may not understand this but people are different. Whats true for you is not true for me. There are a lot of men and women but not all of them are attracted to each other. Say what you will but the truth is that you cant judge anbother person until they walk 1000 miles in their shoes. Its pure arrogance to assume your reality is the same as others. The thign is yuo get to a poitn sometimes where the harder you try the more you realize how impossible things are. And you realize you get to a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:47 PM
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As a 5'3 asian male I am bottom 20-30 percent pretty mcuh no mattter what. As 5'3 you pretty much loose half of people willign to date (Conservatively) and then race will lower the remaining dating population by 30 percent. Going out into the world. Working out for more then a decade lifting and running and building up a social circle tot he point I have been referred to as the peson who knows everything has shown me the reality. Self improvement is not as effectie as people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:02 PM
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The reality is that some people no matter how hward they try will not date. the reality is that dating is that charisma doesnt matter is a women doesnt talk to you. Going out into the world. Working out for more then a decade lifting and running and building up a social circle tot he point I have been referred to as the peson who knows everything has shown me the reality. Self improvement is not as effectie as people think for everyoine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:01 PM
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you got a citation, everything I read says the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:45 PM
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Know more about other guys not themself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:30 PM
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The chance of divorce rises if the wife makes more then the husband. Are men caring about education or how much they make. Thats not goign to change until men arent valued /value themselves as a provider moreso then women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 05:35 PM
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These women seem to have a different feel during their fifties. These succesful women in their 30's still date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 05:31 PM
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To me post wall is closer to past 50 if they are in shape. Yeah they seem varying degrees of bitter and resentful when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:27 AM
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Its one thing to fail at something, its another thing to people to deny you worth and your effort. And at the end of the day the only people who are alrigth being alone are people who have had someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:37 PM
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Sometimes the harder you try to work to resolve your problems, the more hopeless you realize things are. The issue is people don’t think you came to the realization through hard work effort and personal responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:12 AM
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They can be addicted to excercise and be injured. I was addicted to running and had a running injury (AChilles). I wouldnt let myself heal properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:40 PM
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How desperate are you for money? If you can pay rent and your bills but you want a vacation and nice clothes, then not well honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:39 PM
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I think guys know guys better then women know guys. The awkward harassers exist. They just are like the loud minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:38 PM
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All I know is that a pretty girl smiling at me will make me feel indescribably happy. Just that. Not a conversation or a date. Just a genuine smile is enough to make me feel painfully happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:59 PM
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Whatever term you use will be demonized. there is a war of words going on. why do you think nice guy ends up being nice guy. The thing is when you really cant get a girl or married or have a kid. Assuming you want to of course. You stop caring a lot about society and what they think about you. hating women is what society has place on incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:05 AM
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At some point you have to choose to be who you want to be and hold true to who you are or become what someone else wants. Everyperson has to make that choice. There is no good personality as long as you are comfotable with it but there is definitly a personality women want more then men. And there are definilty hobbies and interests and lifestyles you can adopt to help you with women. The idea that what women want is alwasy good and changing and acting according to what they want is objectively …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:02 PM
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There was an okcupid stat that showed that a lot fo women said they were bu but only messaged back and forth with men soooo.... Maybe they find them attractive and are curious, but they still want a traditional female male relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:00 PM
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My friend dated a girl who was really into him. She woudl create drama to sooo... I feel like the girl that really wants the guy usually creates drama when she has him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:59 PM
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Every overweight women who dates I see is almost alwasy with a guy who isnt as overweight as her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:13 AM
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Incel means to non incels a mentality. Incel means involuntary celibate to those who see themselves and incel. The issue I see a lot is people think its about how they see incels. Not how incels see how people see them. You may not be referring to a person but they will think and feel you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:58 AM
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Usually? I have never seen a guy out in the world get angry with a women when they got ignored. God knows I got ignored a fair amount and I never got angry. not saying it doesnt happen nor that it is your fault, I just dont know how common it is with the average women. Men are valued as providers. To have families. To date. That is how they get validation. There is pressure on men who cant get a women. They are insulted and called incels. Toxic men who cant date are lumped together with men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:09 PM
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Even if they are looking for deeper traits, they are still filtering for things like height and race. Things that woudl easily eliminate 40 percent of their dating pool. And IM not just talkign about women who want a 6 foot guy, Im talking about a women who wants a guy who is 5'9" average male height will reduce your dating pool by half.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:33 PM
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Do you honestly think when women are looking for a high value man they are looking for a good partner. Because when I look around thats not what I see. Especially with women who are single into their midtwenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:18 PM
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Is it based on superficial shit, or is it based on the freedom of options. Whoever has the more and better options is higher value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:16 PM
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No I am the one saying if you think its okay for you to shame who you want, then you think its alrigth for anyone to shame anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:32 PM
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Youa re the one who is fine with shaming nameless people on the internet, try doing it in person. try doing it to their face. Your ther oen without emathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:16 AM
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Why dont you go to work and shame gay people for having sex with the same gender and we'll see how that works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:19 AM
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Personally I dont care about N counts but people should be = allowed to have their preferences without being shamed. People who cant find what they want will suffer if their preferences are unrealistic. Im not saying all preferences are right, but you shouldnt guilt or shame people into dating people they dont want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:38 PM
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You think I haven’t tried everything in between. It’s easier for you to look down on me and call me a victim instead of admitting I put way more effort then the average person only to never get a date. More effort then you. Stop looking like I am putting myself and start being thankful that you are lucky to have what you have. You wouldn’t have tried as much or as long as me. Stupid people here act like hitting the gym for a few years and having a social circle is enough to get anyone a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:27 AM
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Have you ever asked out a girl you aren’t attracted to ? I have. People say lower their standards when they have never actually tried . Like they don’t feel like an asshole. Like they don’t feel like scum. Like they aren’t aware they aren’t lying. You think you deserve the success with women you have gotten and I dint deserve to have any. You are the one who is entitled and you don’t even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:40 AM
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See the things is you styart to realize at some point that dating is the most negative thign in your life,. You realize that the time you were working for is today. The time you were sacrificing for was today. So you ask yourself why? Why am I choosing to do something that is negative and brings me no positivity? Do better. Thats for people who are very fortunate to believe that they have the ability to change things for the better. But for others they realize the harder they work at something a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:51 AM
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I didnt think being short was a big Idea. I figured if I worked hard it woudl all be alright. But when try your best to be the best version of yourself and still fail, you realize that its more about things you cant control then things you can. The world will show you the truth. I dont know yoru truth but I know mine. and I know I tried harder and longer then you did before you got a first date. Not that I think people like to believe that there are people who worked harder and are as smart as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:40 AM
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When you work your ass off for more then a decade and you cant even get a date, and everyoen wants to tell you, well you didnt try hard enough or you lack sefl awareness or your just dumb, your gonna assume that its not all your fault. Saying life is unfair doestn mean you live in perpetual victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:38 AM
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She can change her mind, You probably arent going to change it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:43 AM
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Its not hard to tell if an attractive girl is putting effort into a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:42 AM
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I think its about getting a guy they are attracted to, to liek them. Have you ever tried to date a women you werent attracted to? Its not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:18 AM
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People have different truths. They experience life differently. there is no truth between how people expeirence interpersonal relatiomnships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:41 PM
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you know anything about double eyelid surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:29 PM
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Well just becasue you hlift and have a social cirlce doesnt mean you will get a GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:24 AM
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WILLFULL IGNORANCE. You are shown an example where you are wrong, and you ignore it. I am nto saying all incels work hard. I am saying some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:22 AM
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I dunno, I see a lot of the same guys at the gym on a friday or saturday night who obviously have no one. Ive lifted a fair amount and longer then most and it wasnt enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:47 AM
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Im not excusing laziness im calling out ignorance https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/4df4iq/i_dont_understand_why_my_life_is_so_different/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=PurplePillDebate&utm_content=t1_ij9cxxu
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:32 AM
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willful ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:26 AM
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not wanting to live is also called suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:21 AM
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Or maybe you just shouldnt make assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:21 AM
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Spend anytime at the gym and you will see jacked guys who probably are alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:20 AM
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pfftt.. I worked out for a decade and it didnt help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:19 AM
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I feel like in most peoples minds all any guy has to do to get a date is to have a social circle and workout for a few years. Like they cant understand how a guy couldnt get a date if they put the smallest effort. Liek the gulf of experience cant be that large.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:45 PM
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Pretty sure it just means women date assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:43 PM
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No you wont. not always. One day you wake up and you are in your late thirties / early fourties. You have dragged your self through self improvement and socialization. And you realize the day you were supposed to sacrifice for is far past. That your parents were married with kids almost a decade before your current age. But the thing is, people think it will take a year or 2 to see results. They dont realize that isnt true for peopoe. Thye dont realize people can go for decades and still be unab…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:25 PM
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It may make you not want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:16 PM
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Why would you keep trying at something you fail at that you dont enjoy and you make no progress in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:14 PM
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You think they really know what they want? You know what people want who never get any. To know why people wrote all those songs, plays, mvoies, poems, tv shows and basically every form of art form.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:38 PM
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Be in the same social circle as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:35 AM
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In the end the only people who seem to succesfully give up on love are those who have had it and been burned by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:16 PM
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Educated women want educated men, low n count men want low n count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:51 PM
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I’d say the societal expectation of men to not get emotional support is why men tend to be happier in marriage then women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:59 PM
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There have been correlation between n count and marriage success for men and women. So if that isn’t important to you it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:45 PM
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I dunno lady. I feel like a lot of women want a guy taller then them because they want to look good on social media. Because they jusdge other people and themselves think they too are judged. DO they want gigachad, no. But do they overwheliming care more about heigh and race then men. Hell yes. A guy doesnt have to go on social media. They just need to ahve good lookign male friends. Try onlien dating. And meet women and see who they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:11 AM
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Are you a kind supportive women who has a rich social life where she meets plenty of men? Are you superficial and want a man a certain height who can provide for you if you choose not to work? Do you want someone who is charismatic and confident? It all depends on who you are and what you want. Women who dont care about looks have no problem finding a guy who is responsible and loyal. The more you want the more you have to give. If you are lookign for a single 6 foot guy (14.5 percent) who makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:40 AM
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Depends entirely on the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:57 PM
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First a guy almost alwasy knows if he is interested or not. Secondly the better a women knows you and still rejects you the more painful the rejection is. As a guy, investing time and energy isnt worth it. Better to ask someone out , get rejected then see if there is value in a friendship where the power dynamic is even. Because as logn as a guy is attracted and hopes from more from a women but never asks them out, the power dynamic will be off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:57 PM
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It ain’t pathetic it’s just life. It’s just the truth. People experience life differently. https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/4df4iq/i_dont_understand_why_my_life_is_so_different/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=PurplePillDebate&utm_content=t1_ij9cxxu
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:20 PM
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People fail all the time despite massive effort. That’s life. Life ain’t fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:12 PM
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Or you realize it isnt enough and you loose even more confidenc in yourself. And you feel like shit because the world asumes if you try enough you will succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 04:09 AM
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Depends what you want? I have the same problem. What makes the women in your social circle or fridnds of friends in yoru social circle not want to date you? I might have all that but at the end of the day my social cirlce will always have someoen better looking then me for women to go after. It doesnt matter how in shape I am, Im still a 5'3 asian guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:32 AM
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If a gender never treats you well and alwasy rejects you, what do you think you will do? Man or women. Do I blame you, no. But the black panthers got guns and patrolled their neiberhoods because police treated black people like shit. But that didnt change the culture of hate . So you can defend your neices and rightly talkl shit about the horrible things some men sayu, but you aint making the world a better place or your neices.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:24 AM
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If you cant get a date and have sex, you probably wont be able to fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:19 AM
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If you cant get laid your probably not falling in love. The thing is a lot of guys feel the need for love most acutely as a desire for sex. They just dont realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:17 AM
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I think that is basically every gender issue. Like a women complaining about a lack of job oppurtunities to a guy who is unemployed or a women who complains about assholes they date when a guy cant even get a date. The thing is most men will acknowledge if they are an asshole that they are an asshole or acting like an asshole. Women refuse to accept there is anythign wrong with being superficial. They bristle at the idea that they should date someone shorter then them. Like its not superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:09 AM
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I take great pride in things I ahve accomplished. Doesnt mean I am happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:59 AM
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I never said to people the reason they are lone are because they are stubborn and stagnant. Im gonna sit here and say anyone who talks like you has, has done less then me to get a first date. Or else they wouldnt be arrogant enough to tell peop[le I dint know to just figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:58 AM
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All people only know how to treat themself with respect when other treat them wtih respect. Literally a huge part of therapy is having someone treat you with respect and show you how you should be treated. ANd when someone tells me to figure it out, honestly it pisses me off. Because youhave no idea what I have done. And even if you did know you would fail to believe that other people are more deserving of family and loive then you but dont get it. That life is really not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:06 PM
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let me ask them if they would trade their struggles for their wife and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:03 PM
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Work might bring satisfaction but it doesnt bring happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:47 PM
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a 5'11 man telling me that being 5'3 isnt somethign to be insecure about. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:46 PM
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Its such BS that men who stryuggle with dating must have no life or friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:44 PM
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Everything you need to have pride as a man is harder now. Getting a relationship, married, job , get a family, provide for a family and things are not going back. Why do people think that things arent different now. Things are harder now for men. A lot of pressure was put on men when things were easier , but thats different now but the pressure is stil the same. The expectations are still the same. Thats why drugs and depression are so high. Men have a responsibility to recreate themself, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:38 PM
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The woke movement was about people of color but was co-opted to be also be about white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:50 AM
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So deciding to try to not be single means the pain of getting dressed up while for men it means facing rejection asking women out. In other words for women its about is this guy worth and for men its whether I am worthy to even start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:44 AM
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You'll here more women then men change their mind about someone and end up in a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:41 AM
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When my ma and pa came home my dad zoned out and my mom yelled at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:20 AM
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My 11 year old niece gets told by other students their preferred pronouns at a catholic school. Evrybody walksk around with a computer camer and phone in their pocket. The internet exists. What are you talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:13 AM
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Like in the CDC rape statistics they include unwanted touch. As a guy who sucks at datign in the internet who wanted to know why you read a lot. One of those was the DiCarlo escalation ladder. Basically a progressive order of touching that mover from the less to the more sensativ area. The idea was supposedly to physically engage a women. The thing about it was after each rung you are told re recalibrate based on her reaction. Whcih also means stop if she is uncomfortable. Which in of itself see…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:07 AM
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Pot calling the kettle black? Never heard that term? You may not know this but in the world of seduction one of the things people talk about is physical escalation. it was a line too far for me personally. I did not feel comfortable with it. But basically in order to buuild attataction you initiate touch. You move that touch progressivel to a more lets say sensitive area. And the goal is that after each touch you read her reaction. How do you learn to read a women;'s reaction, experience. Now th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:01 AM
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Im not saying its full proof, but A guy would not pressure a girl for anal. It would be the women's goal. So If something does happen ins a society where progression in sex is a women's job, and he even asked for anal outside of an established relationship, that would be seen the same as immorally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:55 AM
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Yeah... Maybe you need to go see someone. I feel like you might be the one projecting. Im not saying I dont need to see someone but it aint for wanting to rape women. If anything my issue is the opposite. An over abundance of empathy that gets me in trouble. But I dont expect you to believe me. The entire point of my argumentis to never put a women in an uncomfotable postion where she never has to feel pressured to do anythign she isnt comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:51 AM
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Okay kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:43 AM
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those are all cut and dry but most sexual assault occurs wth people who no each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:09 PM
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No, but I think a man who approaches a women will have a cultural leg up as far as being seen as agressive and coercion. The line would be much clearer. The issue with rape is there is not a clear line. Its he said and she said. With women taking the cultural responsibilityu a women would never just end at a man's place unless she asked. A women would not leave a party with a man unless she asked. And in the eyes of a jury or as proof, it would be clearer. Also for men it would be clearer where …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:08 PM
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No actual that was literally not equal facilities and access to services.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:04 PM
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Im sorry did white people try to rape and colonize your parents country? Because they did mine. Yeah busses though. Those sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:51 PM
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Becasue men are bigger then women changes the dynamic drastically. A women cant trap a man in the corner physically and make him talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:43 PM
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Actually as someone who sometimes reads a subreddit devoted to perpetually solo women, lucky you were born an attractive women or an average looking women with unconventional taste in men. I wish I was at least born a man with unconventional taste in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:35 PM
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Whether you are a minority or majority, as long as you have equal oppurtunity, then you dont need inclusion. But of course I would be lying in saying that there is value to seeing someone like you in different positions. So I do believe that if you have NO people of color or only people of color, or no women or no men in a position of power in your organization, thats just bad for business. Stupid things happen when you get too many people who are all from the same background.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:32 PM
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Lucky you were born a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:26 PM
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As a guy, I think 90 percent of men have tried and failed at online dating. By fail I mean even if they get a date its not with anyone they are all that attracted to. So all men already feel unattractive. And women, they are all on social media. Their boyfriends even more now have to be someone that they can show off. Throw in that more women are educated and want a guy with simialer eduication. Throw in that women make more, which invariably men will make less. Add to the fact that a lot of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:19 PM
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I get there is no perfect way to get a guy. But is it really so hard to just date a guy through your social circle. No guy is perfect but most women know if the guy is going to lie and use someone for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:25 AM
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A lot of them run the gambit, and a lot of them can get sex, but it feels like a lot of the men who are willing to be with them don’t want a relationship and are willing to have sex with them, but unwilling to show them any kindness. While I agree having a guy use you for sex sucks, if he is nice to you and takes you out in the process; that’s way better then not being able to have sex at all. But if a guy shows you no kindness , or respect yet he is willing to have sex with you; that’s not much…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:20 AM
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Honestly you gotta kinda test this stuff in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:35 AM
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If women find confidence and success, then men becomeing more attractive is a thing. If men are attracted to looks it is a thing. But the idea its at 30 for women.. Nahh. The women in shape who have issues dating according to the women I know are closer to 50. They will still go on online dating and get a lot of attention but the physical quality of the guys will be a lot less. And are guys who could never get women in their 20's gonna fuind they have hot young 20 year olds want them in their 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:38 AM
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You assume hardwork and patience will win through. The heroes journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:02 AM
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Some people get older and realize looks are more important then they thought
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:41 PM
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Its not the neccearily effective but it is the best advice. Stuff liek working out make it seem like you will date when you are good enouigh. They encourage people to be alone. The thing is, being out in the world is the best way for you to date if your looks are in the gutter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:17 PM
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When I was in school I though my lack of success wa due to my lack of effort. In my twenties as I put more effort into looks and work I though it was because I weasnt succesful enough and in shape. In my late tenties I though I needed to approach more, get a social circle and take more risks In my late 30's and 40's I realize no matter how good of shape I was in, how much money I had or how much I approached; it duidnt matter. When that happened I realzied the person I wanted to be was not who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 09:09 PM
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It helps but its not great. Nothing like approaching women who ignore you only to seem them approach and flirt with your better lookign friends. Nothing like thinking a girl might like you only to realize she is just trying to talk to your better lookign friend. But honestly I think social circle is more important then getting in shape
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:39 PM
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Young attractive women are not taken as seriously as young attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:52 AM
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I used to think it mattered what you brought, but then I met enough women to realize they woudlnt give me a chance to prove I have something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:37 PM
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the thing about being a hot guy versus a hot girl, there really isnt any downside. Like a hot guy will do better at whatever career they have while a hot girl will be taken less seriously. A hot guy , lie a hot girl walsk through life with [people smiling at him. Succesful guy has to work way harder then the hot guy to be succesful and will never be the hot guy. The hot guy can be succesful and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:24 PM
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Its funny because men and a lot fo women think that being succesful will get you the SO you want, but in men and women really just want someone hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:33 PM
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Its interesting when you say dating to women here, they immediatly equate it to relationships. Not how much effor they put into getting a date or how many women they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:20 PM
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Some people find their work doesn’t bring them happiness and friendships become more shallow as people move on or get married/kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:14 AM
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Do you want men to invest and care about society? About women. men who dont believe they will ever experience love and sex are barley getting by. Men who have kids and wives, they can invest in other people. In society. They have a reason to live, more then themself. its easier to love another then to live for yourelf.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:12 PM
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It kinda matters how you define pills, but for race and height all you need is OLD numbers. At the end of the day its not anecodtes or what people self report matter. Its actions and numbers. People can say that online dating isnt real life, but there is no more accurate data on how people actualyl act.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:02 PM
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Be really attractive as in attractive enough for him to approach and ask you out. Is he fairly attractive, date a lot, past his mid twenties. Probably be a little bitchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:58 PM
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In my thirties 30 I lifted 4 times a week and ran 35 miles a week. 40's ish male lift 2X a week and run about 12 miles a week and 1 hour on the stationary bike. Not sure if its age, injuries (Well the running is injuries) but its harder to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:55 PM
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The only time I have seen women who are in shape complain about dating is after 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:35 PM
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That is so impractivcal. Every guy knows that being emotionally vulnerable will only lead you down a path where you resent women who you open up to but dont find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:29 PM
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Depending on the standard deviation the 80-20 rule may apply
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:43 PM
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If wimen cared about men as more then reflections of yourself, then you would never have to be with a man who saw you as just a hole. Most women who can get casual sex know men who try to know you . But that man fails at things more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:45 AM
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If you are wrong you will believe that you don’t have the power to positively improve your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:40 AM
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I think you are talking about attraction and not love. Love is something built over time IMO. But even then I think you can love someone but not want to wrap your life up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:59 PM
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It's in every song, poem, book and movie. Good or bad its a basic experience of being human. A person who never known what it is loved and allowed themself to be loved has not really lived as a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:42 AM
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statistically the shorter guys divorce at a lower rate. Maybe you just have bad judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:56 AM
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to be fair this is reddit sooo expecting anyone to get past the headline is asking a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:22 PM
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There is a graph of race and desirability on the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:50 PM
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You cant negotiatie attraction. All you can do is build a society that values people. One where not dating and not being able to get a date isnt stigmatized. A society where because a man is alone, that doesnt mean he is undererving of love. Maybe I am wrong bnut a women knows she can be a good person and still struggle in dating for purely superfiicial reasons. Men arent runnign arouind sayign its about personality. Women refuse to say height and race matter. I look aroudn and see plenty of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:49 PM
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I have a feeling these guys were still taller then them and white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:43 PM
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Just as men women were able to only innately be valued as women and not for their accomplishments, so do men need to be valued for being men not just for their accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:42 PM
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I feel like you are sayign men and women's expeirence are the same. For one race matters massively. It really sucks to be a black women, but any one else is considere more attractive then the average men. Much more. And for women what matters is the first message rate, while for men what matters is the reply rate. So men deal with at best a 10 percent reply rate. Not a date rate but a reply rate if they are lucky. And women get like 2 messages an hour. That is online dating. Its sucks to be a bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:37 PM
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As a 5’3 Asian guy, I j is what it’s like to get rejected the moment you open your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:19 PM
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Waymond in everywhere at once. The real waymond, the one who wants a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:16 PM
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TFW the intensively insecure girl is afraid she will end up with a short Asian guy like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:53 AM
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If most men put as much effort in as me and never got a single date, I think the human race would die out. https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/4df4iq/i_dont_understand_why_my_life_is_so_different/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=Healthygamergg&utm_content=t1_ij3r9bt
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:51 AM
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Someone who I assume is a women in another thread said since men have a harder time getting sex they should lower their standards. Im thinking thats exactly what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:15 PM
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friends with benef... itting moral philosophies?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:13 PM
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this is social ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:59 PM
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basically you are saying guys should just lie to women and get one night stands to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:58 PM
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Q4w , what are your social hobbies that arent dominated by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:56 PM
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Its not hard to find good men. Your friends be it male or female all know single good men. Would you date them? Probably not. But every one has a friend who is a single guy they have known for like a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:44 AM
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6, portability and preparation time make them impractical for everyday consumption
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:38 PM
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They date people who have nothing to offer but sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:43 PM
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I think most women underestimate the former. But I’m a 5’3 guy who gets rejected before I even open my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:04 PM
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As a 5’3 Asian guy I disagree. I spent way too much time getting rejected by women before I opened my mouth. Didn’t matter how many friends I had who enjoyed me or how much time I spent at the gym. It didn’t matter how big my house was or how nice my car. Women I met never gave me a chance to even show it off. And this was mostly at running groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:25 AM
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As a 5’3 Asian guy who was in good shape, funny and had a good social circle, you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:23 AM
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Oh I know. Believe me. And After all my time online dating, speed dating, approaching, etc... Unless Im paying for it I aint getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:00 PM
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Heyyy thanks , you matter to me too!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 12:48 AM
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I’m A 5’3 Asian guy .. I don’t think plastic surgery will help that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 12:47 AM
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Over 40 , but you seem optimistic to think I’ll live to 60 from my POV
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 12:39 AM
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I am the 2 percent. Guess I dont fucking matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:57 PM
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I dunno man. I think its less obvious then you think. People come off intense here because they cant tip their hand in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:28 AM
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Thats what they say, but the numbersof the heights of people whoa re married say differently. Not that there isnt correlation, but the difference in heights shows that there is more at play then just be taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:04 AM
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Its nerver been a problem to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:59 AM
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objectively too high. But it feels equally shitty to pretend to be someone so an attractive girl likes you as it does pretending to like a girl you have no attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:20 AM
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Same. Except for me its 40 ish years and its not really my choice , and I dont actually have any dating experience. But same. Fuck dating. It was the greatest source of negativty in my life. A source that I chose to put myself through over and over again. Well fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:14 AM
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pretty unlikely as I have never gone on a date and I am in my fourties despite a lot of self improvement. But I appreciate the sentiment I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:11 AM
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No one can fix you but you, but dont lie to yourself if you think you are really a nice person who is only nice to people you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:02 AM
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I had social anxiety. Probably not as bad as the person commenting. I remember people going out of their way talking to me. I got better at talking to people. Made same friends. I became the person tryign to talk to people. The people who are confidently talking and going out of their way to talk to people. They have feelings to. And it doesn't feel good to try to be nice to people only to have them give you zero effort in return. And the person talking has no idea if the person ignoring them ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:49 AM
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Tell that to every guy who gets rejected online hundresd of times. As a 5'3 asian guy, It seems pretty high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:44 AM
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I will be downvoted for this, But you are nor nice. Social anxiety is selfish. Not in a you're evil type of way, but it is all about focusing on yourself. Im not saying you can control it but can a truly good person have bad social anxiety. If all you do is worry about yourself, can you care about other peopple,. Can you be there for other people. Can you see someone in distress whrn you are focused on yourself. Can you be aware of someone else mental state when all you feel is your own. Social …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:43 AM
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Honestly you just need to find a work regimen you will stick to. If you have been consistently working out for 6 months then you can think about body sculpting. Also it help to have goals like run a marathon or bench something or take up a sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:22 PM
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Eh I find inital attraction to be more about several prerquisites then influenced factos. Stuff like Is he taller then me. Race. Ive spent enough time approaching women in my exprience to realize that Im pretty much always screwed before I open my mouth. I though honestly It was different. I though a sense of humor and other external factors mattered more. But god damn did reality show me how wrong I was for me at least. Ands the harder I worked to change so called external factors the more it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:58 PM
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I just assume women in general want a man taller then them. So a 5’”4 guy loses half the women assuming an average female height of 5’4” .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:48 PM
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As a man I have realized that, if you are unlucky you may have to choose between liking yourself and being the person you want to be, and having the life you want and being loved by someone you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:06 PM
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If you are unlucky you may have to choose between lining yourself and being the person you want to be, and having the life you want and being loved by someone you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:06 PM
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Here is the real truth. Go out and find out. The answer for you may not be the answer for someoen else in the thread. You cant talk yourself out of trying. All you can do is go out and find out the answers for yourself. Its painful but the truth is in that old saying. Teh truth is if you can get women but they reject you when they find out where you live, then thats a good thing. You learned something. Thats better then getting rejected and never know ing why.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:45 PM
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If you are in you're single in your twenties 74 percent of women are not overweight and 43 percent of women are not obese
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:42 PM
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This is my lived inexperience. You keep telling me that I should go after short girls as if short girls necessarily want a short guy. I’ve been the funniest most liked guy in the room. It doesn’t help when women out of my social circle don’t even make eye contact much less get to know my personality. You are literally ignoring my years of experience , which is what you are claiming I am doing. Both can be true you know. Does personality help ,sure. But the better your personality is the more you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:43 AM
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As a 5’3 Asian guy who did a fair amount of self improvement, I disagree that things are that easy for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:03 AM
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Having a social circle just mostly reinforced my assupmptions on women. They still chased after the better looking guys. They never really gave you a chance. Most of my friends who were women were all in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:51 AM
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100/100 you are responsible for yourself and how you treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:48 AM
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The more I worked on the other things the more I realized that it didnt matter, or maybe its cuz Inm a 5'3 asian guy. In my social circles people seemed to like me and enjoy my company and want me around. Men and women. But at the end of the day the women I met still chased after the better looking guys. They didnt really give me a chance. Even friends of friends I was introduced to were pretty crappy to me. Kinda pissed me off still hoenstly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:27 AM
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Theo more I grew my social circle and worked on my :Social Skills" and was liked byt people, the more I realized how women still were not looking to date a 5'3 asian guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:19 AM
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I think its more about earning power.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:44 AM
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I love how something interesting means someethign interesting to women. I have read easily over a few hundred fantasy books. And they were damn interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:42 AM
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well there was the self admitted alcoholic who died of drug related issues and the lady with 5 kids. They were pretty though. but yeah just becuase you have a social circl edoesnt mean women will like you. It just means you get to meet women who go after your better looking friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:48 AM
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just because you have a social life that doesnt mean women will be intereested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:33 PM
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Feel like the women have a part to play in this too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:32 AM
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Probably the one I am aware of is that the large majority of women will be very sad and lonley in their 40's if they dont have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:50 PM
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Depends at what age you end up with the amazing person .. If I end up with an amazing person at the age of 60 and I end up with no kids or family, then nah. If I end up with the amazing person at 30 then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:48 PM
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Do men shot on women for wanting hot men, or because they all say its about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:36 PM
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Or the commplete opposite and accpet that men need to be more empathetic to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:35 PM
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Yeah I tried that, still alone. I had to come to the very painful realization that who I though was the best version of myself either didnt matter or was not what women wanted. And the more I lived my life and tried to be happy and surround myself with good people, the more you realize how shallow adult friendships are and how most people leave you so you gotta make new friends who leave you... Im glad it all worked out for you, but the thing is the longer I live the more I realize a lot of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:11 AM
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Yeah , then one day maybe you'' wake up and realize all the time you spent sacrificing for tomorrow was meaningless. That the time you were supposed to be happy is now because your not in your twenties any more. then you realize all that approaching made you a worse person. Resntfult, depressed, negative and unhappy. So whyc hoose to do something that makes you unhappy. Why choose to try to spend time with people who dont treat you well. What do you think will really change. Becuse you wont alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:44 PM
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Running has improvement the more you practice, the other does not in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:04 PM
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Alright let me just switch that button off
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:21 PM
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It was a ticket to get beer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:17 PM
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I ran a 10k today and had an extra ticket for beer. handed, offered it to the nearest stranger as all my friends were leaving too. She gave me the look that reminded me why I hate approaching women. Still gave her the ticket and walked away but man, it kinda ruined the day for me. Swear based on her reaction I handed her a poisonous snake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:26 PM
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True vulnerability is being able to rely on someone when they cant handle stuff. Sobbing mess 24/7 is one thing, but its another to be vulnerable and have it used against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:23 PM
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I dunno, you are talking to a 5'3 asian guy. Im sure my experience isnt typical. At the end of the day, looks is what makes most guys approach and risk rejection. You have a better chance of having women do all the approaching or having the more attractive women date more and treat them badly; then having men risk rejection on women they arent really attracted to physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:08 PM
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Rejection. it has negative effects. Resentment from women. Loss of confidence. A general sense of lack of any control inlife and nihilism. Look at all the red pill/ black pill guys that basically had to destroy any empathy toward women in dating in order to find success. Many men have to sacrifice that rather then lose their confidence. All this trying and failing comes with huge emotional costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:53 PM
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Yeah but approaching is hard. Rejection is hard. Attracctiveness is the main driver of what makes a guy deal with rejection. Its not abotu realization. Plenty of guys know less attractive women are less entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:50 PM
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Nah.. I go outside and I seel the same men getting chased by women while the same guys getting ignored. Im sure you like men just see the attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:30 PM
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No you dont neccesarily get results if you do that. Thats the point. The more effort you put in the more you relialize the things you cant control matter then the things you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:29 PM
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You only get numb to rejectuon if you have some wins and some loses. Someones ability to put themself out there depends a lot on their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:28 PM
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If the dems had gotten rgb out this wouldn’t have happened. And if they would rather talk about trump then making pro choice as important to dems as pro life is to republicans things would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:55 AM
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Do you look at the economic condition of rural states and think… yeah they need less power in government. The rural states should have been won over by dems, but they suck so hard they have made no headway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:53 AM
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The dems care more about September whatever then coming up with a plan for roe or inflation. They talk more about race then going out and supporting unions because they don’t want to be anti business.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:45 AM
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Inflation might be happening but that’s no excuse to have a plan . And it’s not the minority ruling. It’s that dems suck at getting shit fine and they blame everyone else but themself for their shittiness. The republicans listen to their people more. The Democratic Party would never let a popular person they couldn’t control like the republicans let trump be president. They had plenty of time to pass roe into law. They just never made it a priority nor the will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:41 AM
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Yeah dems also like to blame republicans too . Like they never saw roe coming. I would rather vote for republicans in hopes that the dems wake up, get their shit together and finally get some leadership change. 4 more years of trump is less a threat to democracy then a Democratic Party that does nothing but blame republicans and fights a meaningless culture war.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:41 AM
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I think a lot of the peopl in the US agree with you, but none of them are on twitter. People care more about the gas prices and inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:37 PM
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Feel liek Dems try to control the conversation. They would rather talk about Jan 6th then roe or inflation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:36 PM
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I think expressing weakness in a way where it makes the women feel like its her repsonsibility to fix it, is more the issue. Whether or not you have a handle on it. But I think thats true for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:35 PM
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ITs more an issue if the guy makes a lot more money then the women. The tasks are split as people want it for the most part. I mean the tasks are not enourmosly more because fo the addition of the guy. If the guy makes a lot of money and her leaving him means she will take a step down in lifestyle (Doesnt have a guy who will take his place with the equal amoutn of money) and deal with the societal backlash, then she will leave. the biggest reason people in unhappy marriages stay is for women wht…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:33 PM
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You never know until you get out there. There are a lot of factors. People will say the guiys who do fine are average or the guys who do horrubly are normal. At the end of the day everyone is tryign their best but some people realize that through self improvement they do fine and others realize it doesnt help. Life is a voyage and realizng what the real world is and having you dreams run up againt reality is growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:13 PM
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for the average 20 year old probably not much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:50 PM
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Some women cant actually realize that men have as strong and deep emotions as women. They would actually just shame them for their feelings. Men struggle. It doesnt matter if its better or worse then women, they struggle too. Acknoledging the struggle is the only way you can actually take this society out of the dark ages the same way women did the same for other women. By acknowledging their struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:48 PM
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No thats what I consider a small problem
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:55 AM
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Because trans people using the wrong bathroom are gonna shoot up schools and kill themself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:44 PM
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I never said it was your problem. I have never said I wanted people to do anything. All I want is for people to agree its a problem. That people are suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:46 PM
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I never said it was your problem. I have never said I wanted people to do anything. All I want is for people to agree its a problem. That people are suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:45 PM
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Its not about women. Its not about blame!! Why do you always have to go to its women's fault. Its about taking the diifficulties of men in a world where their place and value in it is greatly diminished. Its about caring about men suffering. Its abotu men nto being able to have families. Not about women not wanting to mary men. Its about men not being able to have relationships, not about women not wanting to date men. Your so damn self centered you care more about how you think someon is blamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:09 PM
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More sad men who either kill themself or radicalize politically and more shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:04 AM
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Anti woke anti feminism will grow and everyone will stay in their little bubble. The rich woke feminist against the poor racist mysognist. There is a reason why young men dont trust feminism more then men in their 60's
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:46 PM
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Stop blaming men. ALl the men on here that cant get a women will be told control what you can control and take some responsibility. Women have a vote. Women ahve power. Why is everything abotu men. Take some god damn responsibility in this political syustem when more women vote then men. Being angry at men on redd isnt goign to solve anything. Stop lookign at men and start looking at yourselfs. Thsi wouldnt have happend if RBG had just stepped down. Congress could pass a bill right now. States w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:43 PM
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Its a reasonable option but it is no gurantee of success and the world will never accept that you truly tried
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:26 PM
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Ehh... YOu can say that until you actuially focus on what you can change and realize it doesnt matter. And the thing is no one understands how fucking hard that really is. To work onyourself for a decade and get not a single date. To have friends be in shap always working out. To own a house and have freinds, men and women and still get nowhere. To realzie the moment you open your mout that the decision has been made. To tell yourself not all waomen are like that but to get rejected again. and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:25 PM
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As a 5'3 asian guy that hasnt been my experience. Not that I know the exact reason but I know they decided before I opened my mouth. Maybe women liek you exist, but I bet you didnt have a hard time dating. Meaningwhile I was putting in work in self improvement, socializing and work; getting nowhere. Online dating , speed dating, mustuial friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:23 PM
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Yeah thats not true. I did all of that and it didnt matter. But whatever. I always find it funny when someone says have a good personalitya nd money and you meet women who wont look you in the eye or even have a conversation with you..... Even when you have mutual friends who introduce you or at social meetups... Im glad it was true for you but as a 5'3 asian guy, that wasnt true for me. But whatever. People are more comfortable thinking you are telling the truth and I am lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:20 PM
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A lot of women I approach seem to care more about what the man she is with means abotu her then whether she would actually enjoy spending time with him. If company was important then height wouldnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:16 PM
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Have you ever asked an incel about why they didnt have any femal friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:03 AM
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Yeah and women shouldnt protest and be angry to make their point. They should talk about how hard their life is and beg for rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:02 AM
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You know who else doesnt have opposite gender friends ... Ill give you a hint it ends with the letter c e l.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:58 AM
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then you must have shitty male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:55 AM
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that's not my problem, maybe you're too weak. Lack of empathy is lack of empathy. The fact you demand emapthy but refuse to give it is gross. There is alwasy someone out there suffering out there. Everyone is suffering . We all should give each other empathy. Because there is someone suffering way worse then you and the only reason things is because they didnt say its not my problem. The sad thing you think you are entitled to empathy. You r problems are real and men are not. But if you dont get…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:42 AM
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I dunno. The decision isnt up to me. All I can do is show interest and be the best version of myself. The rest is not in my hands.. Its not like its guaranteed that the person I want to be is anyoen women want to date. Its not guranteed even if that was a person they want to date, that the things I cant control more then the things I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:03 AM
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Ah the classic Take no responsibility. Have no empathy. Shame the men. Its like you dont realize how much men used to talk to wopmen liek that when they complained about the jobs, the vote, or sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:59 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:27 PM
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No most of the people I know are women. Thye for the most part are ion relationships or married. And I have met a friends of there's and boy does it suck. They dont look at me or give me a dirty look... Its like IM friends with your friend. She just introduced us. What is your problem. I mean the husbands/boyfiernds are all cool. .. Its like all I did was say HI hows it going . .. Ive literally travelled to do marathons with yoru friend. Literally run hundresd of miles with her. Alright.. NVM...…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:57 PM
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There has always been unrealistic body portrayal of women in media. If anything porn these days celebrates more body types then the swimsuit models if the 80’s . There is more body positive acceptance of not only body types but races because of porn these days. Now actual sex isn’t better, but big ass and hips and women with no boobs. Now it’s the norm before sir mix a lot and baby got back. If anything people are less hung up on body types these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:29 PM
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Talking in general sure, but dating nahhh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:37 AM
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You dont think hot women in media hasnt been a for a long time? The higher education fo women and their greater earning power has been a more recent rise. Because lots women not men who care about how much their man makes or how educated he is. Women arent looking for a looks matcha s much as an education match / earning match/ societal value match. And when all the women rise and the men stay the same and fall. Its women who have to be willing to date down. Society valued women as more then jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:30 AM
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Nah man. I think you're wrong. Older women / middle age women sure. But really hot women yong especiallyif they look young. In business. I disagree. There is more of an assumption of hot women being dumb then hot men. There are assumptions when hot women get when they get succesful that hot men dont get too. But I have a feelign we wont agree on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:26 AM
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Take a hot 22 year old versus an attractive 22 year old guy. Who is taken more seriously. There is a bias for young women in the workforce in general. There is no bias toward men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:49 AM
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Do you think men are treated like human beings in dating? In online dating? During approaches? Not saying women shouldn’t be treated like human beings. Not even saying women should be nicer in OLD or during approaches. I’m just saying the disrespect goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:44 AM
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Based in my experience no
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:58 PM
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No success online and the ones I meet don’t seem too interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:58 PM
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As a 5’3 Asian guy in a country with mostly white women, I disagree. I have a fairly large social circle and am considered by many funny. You act as if women will give me the time of day to even know my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:19 PM
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I don’t think they struggle, it’s just a hot guy still pretty much has to work, a hot women can let a man take care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:24 PM
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Ugly women us worse then ugly guy. Or at least very ugly. And when you are young s hot guy is still taken seriously at work. Hot women are taken much less seriously at professional careers but of course if you are talking about dating hot girl is better. Personally I would rather be a hot guy and date average women with a good career then a hot women surrounded by men who want to take care of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:19 PM
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Sex is an expression of societal truths. Because people lie abotu everything. Its their actions that mean something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:06 AM
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Its not about sex. Its about how and why a women decide to have sex with a guy. Thats like a rich guy being annoyed by how much a poor person talks about money. And telling him there is more to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:01 AM
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Every guy who has spent anytime on OLD and found no success will end up going down a rabbit hole of looking for deeper societal truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:11 AM
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Older male gurus existed ina place where it was enough for a man to have a good job and priovide, to get a girl. Now women dont need men nearly as much. Its a different world and old rules dont apply. You dont just go to college and buy a house anyomre.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:09 AM
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And feminism was supposed to mean equal rights for women before a small group villianized all masculinity. Its a way of words. and the people who who see you as an evil group rather then as a diverse group of people have more fun deaminizng people and virtue signaling online, rather then realize we are all people just trying to do our best int he world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:08 AM
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No it means involuntary celibate. Your definition of incel is the same as assuming feminism means man hatimg.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:12 AM
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For a time in my life I owned a nice house and a was in shape at the gym 5 times a week and runnig marathons. Im also a 5'3 asian guy. And despite having a good social circle, women I met didnt want to date me and none of them new me well enough to know how much I made . My experience runs counter to what you experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:51 PM
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As a 5'3 asian man who put a fair bit of effort over a decade, I will not agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:34 PM
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Then why are the people arguing against me and mental health care coverage also also pro gun control
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:40 AM
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short men are statistically less likely to cheat and get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:25 PM
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Most people learn a lot about themselves becaue of relationships. You learn a lot from the shitty parts of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:41 AM
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How would you even know. You would just assume they dated wouldnt you. God knows if you are forveralone and socially well adjusted you dont talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:45 AM
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How many women refuse to take it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:30 AM
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Of course. I have a friend who had a kid and never took a penny of child support while working 2 jobs and earning a masters degree. Now she does iron man triathlons in her free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:52 PM
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Sometimes the harder you try the more you realize you had no control in the first place. https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/4df4iq/i_dont_understand_why_my_life_is_so_different/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:51 PM
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Never said it did, but it might reduce shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:44 PM
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The people who talk abotu gun control only really want to talk about it. Is there a strong voting block against mental health coverage? Politicians can get voted back in by playing to their base and not getting any real effective legislation in place. Or they can actually make legislation that might change things. People want to just grand stand. Thats what the world is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:34 PM
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Well for the three percent who aren't I have a feeling that they have no problems finding someone. But those left. Well I dont think you would be attracted to them and probably would rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:24 AM
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For those who spent years trying their best to attract the right person only to find out they have little to know control, I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:22 AM
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you didnt answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:34 AM
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Would you be happy with the bottom 15 percent of women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:17 AM
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what do you mean by fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:16 AM
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The main difference is that men are supposed to approach. Who and how attraction works I believe is based almost entirely on thatinteraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:18 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:47 AM
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How would you know what would work until you try? How effective has gun control been? How effective havs gun control been in decreasing gun violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:47 AM
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People would rather virtue signal and soe division by talking about gun control then go about the hard work of instituting national mental health coverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:25 AM
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As an asian guy 30 percent of those women will be attracted to me. As a 5'3 that will reduce your dating by another half. So out of 100 women befor I even say a word, only 15 percent of women are attracted to me. And let me ask you a simple question. What type of women would those 15 percent look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:16 AM
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You gotta live life and have relationships with people to grow as a person. If you down all your time at self improvement until you feel like you are ready, that’s just a defense mechanism to avoid taking a risk because you feel like you aren’t ready. Better to have bad relationships and realize your flaws then to sit alone and try to figure yourself out. It’s okay to make mistakes. That’s how most people learn and grow. Hell people even look vack fondly on their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:20 PM
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Believe it or not people don’t think I’m negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:16 AM
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And youre a horrible person who needs to put others down and look down on other people to feel good about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:15 AM
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You can’t for a moment believe that I am not a negative person. That working on it was me striving to be the best version of myself. You assumed working hard meant for women, but I meant working hard to have a good life. Man you are toxic. Unwilling to give credit and believe that other people might deserve love just as much as you. But by chance or bad luck hot none.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:36 PM
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See the problem I have with you is you don’t really care. You don’t know me and you are only comfortable with the idea that you deserve love and the ones without don’t. You NEED to feel better then other people. You are the narcissist. You aren’t trying to show humility and help people. You are trying to feel superio about yourself by putting others down and looking down on other people. Stop projecting. I may need therapy, but you you are just a terrible person who can’t acknowledge others peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:31 PM
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I grinder harder and longer then you and hot nowhere. Not that you will believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:39 AM
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I spent 4 years enjoying my existence spending time with positive people who liked me. That’s where I learned enjoying life isn’t enough. All it is is a treadmill when you get into your thirties of losing friends and making new friends to making new friends. Because at the end of the day friends you make as adults move on. And you are talking like these women let me know them. Let me know their energy. You know who I hung out with ? Good people who treated me well and who had sinister interests.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:30 AM
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Or maybe you should be thankful that you are so fortunate. Maybe guys worked harder tried harder then you. Maybe your not better then anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 12:25 AM
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Man I worked harder and longer then you have and got nothing. My goal was just to see if I could get a women to make 1 women a day make eye contact with me and smile. I steruggled to get one girl to look at me. Much less return a smile unless they were standing behind a register. Not at the gym. Not when I passed them on thw stree running. And all this was not including all the timem at the gym, online dating, speed dating, approaching , workign out, building up a social circle hobbies... But wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:17 PM
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Yeah I do this too. Still alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:57 PM
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I did this for a month, never realized how much women avoid eye contact with me. Really depressing. I remember I went running on the beach with a friend of mine and all I saw was women looking and smiling at him. I had a friend who ran I ran with all the time once. She ran with a mutual friend and said how weird it was running with a good looking guy because all the women looked at him. You guys take for granted women even look at you much less smoke back. The world tells you the truth. You just…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:56 PM
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Yeah I dont think men who becom edisatsified will neccerasily kill you. Not that you probably care about other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:10 AM
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Those arent incels, you would know that if they still allowed incel subs on reddit. Not syaing they wont become incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:32 AM
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Your not exactly talking her pants off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:50 PM
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Good with women means winning genetic lottery?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:29 PM
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Top post is blaming incel entitlement. Literally a group of men who dont date are to blame for bad dates? How the hell are a group of unhappy men who never date and gave up on dating to blame for the dating environment. Do they think incels are to blam for inappropirate approaches or not callign them back after dates? Next they will blame the men in the pristhood and eunuchs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:26 PM
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I think most men who are influenced by sex heavily are lonley or seeking validation. A lot of men mistake hornyness for lonlyness.] Men, often even with friends, struggle for emotional connection. \Judd Apatow said once if you are laughing at me you must nit hate me. Well if a women is having sex qwith you she must not hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:57 PM
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Cut the number of women that are attracted to you by 2/3, now make all your failure culiminate into you HS/ early twenties beofre you have any money/career. Now ask yourself if you can come out the other side and still believe in love. People who say life isnt fair, rarely teuly understand that life isnt fair because they dont understand that unfair means you dont overcome it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:37 PM
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Women care about a nice guy like a guy cares about how much money a women makes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:26 PM
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Just cut a guys dating pool to a 1/3, then add in race then add in who is attracted to him and who he is attracted to. Yeah sure. Tahts just up to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:25 PM
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Not much and fuck no
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:16 PM
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Depends on the man. The average women is not going to want to date someone shorter then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:14 PM
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But thats the point. Some people dont want to make a bunch of money or have a job. Some people have freinds they like and hobbies they like, and they are shit for helping them meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:13 PM
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As someone who had a fairly large social circle, all you do is meet women who ignore you and chase after your better looking friends. Yes I had goals and an okay career. But I would consider it a win if the women who ignored me actually spent a moment to actually know anythign about me. I used to meet so many women when I spent more then a decade running marathons and meeting people at running groups. I was the guy who knew everyone. I was still a 5'3 guy asian guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:32 PM
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Yeah I am aroudn people who treat me well. And I am nto gettign the girls I want but there are a lot of things I am unwilling to do or allow other people to do to me that might help me get women. And its not like these women who ignored me, couldnt just walk up and start talking to me. Thats life though. Some times you have to chose between the person you want to be and the life you want to live. Im not naive enough to believe like when I was young that if you became the person you wanted to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:14 AM
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I dont want to know someone or get to know a friend of someone who wont make a little basic polite conversation with me when I initiate it. I would assume anyone else I treated the way they treated me would feel the same. All you can do in life is choose to be around the people in this world who treat you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:49 AM
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Why would I try to talk to someone who made it fairly clear they didnt want to talk to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:00 AM
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Oh no they just werent interested in the girls. They had other girls they wanted or girlfriends. I mean they were happy to flirt and lead them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:51 PM
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Yeah.. You seem to think that the girls that ignored me had a chance with the better looking guys in my social circle. Like I was gonna tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:45 PM
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I hate threads like this because its just guys saying they are great and telling everyone who fails must be stupider or not trying as hard as them. Everyoen is so willing to admit why they DESERVE to get someone, they refuse to believe theyu are just luckier and life isnt fair most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:16 PM
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Just because you find it humiliating to be ignored by women, doesnt mean you took rejection ungracefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:15 PM
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yeah I tried that. Made me feel worse. Large social circle. Meet people for people. Instead of meeting women to date, I met women who despire me having female friends, and sharing interests, and having friends ion common, still ignored even platonic attempts at talkign to chase someoen better lookign in my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:14 PM
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Because everyone has value to bring to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:13 PM
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Nothing shittier then having a large social circle and seeing women you approach/ meet through that social circle ignore you, chase after the better looking guys in your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:10 PM
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Anyone else worried they might become the weird creepy single uncle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:57 PM
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It’s not transactional. Men can and do become emotionally involved with women. They let their guard down. They come to emotionally depend on and allow women to emotionally depend in them. And to men that is love. But too often women aren’t feeling the same thing. Women get and give emotional support without it being anything more then friendship while men do this type of thing very rarely . It’s not transactional it’s how many men feel love is to them but realize women don’t. A man who allows th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:35 PM
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Sex is the best information a man has available to him to know how someone feels abotu them. Its not that they dotn care about the other stuff. Most men just knwo that a women will readily do or fake the other stuff even if they dotn liek the man much just because he fills all the other stuff. Men who think the other stuff is important try to be nice to womena nd get to know them. They get trapped int he friend zone. Men who know better know that sex is more important to knowing how a women feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 07:10 AM
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small gtarp servers. You go in not knowing anything and try to social engineer / grind yoru way through the city to gain information
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:52 AM
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season 15...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:34 AM
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Shonda is crazy. 100 black male surgeons in greys and not one asian guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:34 PM
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Its a personal choice. Dating failure can drive you toward you to a lot of negativity. It can make you feel like shit and make youhate women and the world. Few want to pay for sex. But at the end of the day, hopw unhappy are you willing to be to fit th emold of society. Especially when society doesnt accept you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:29 PM
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stop lookign at the guys and start lookign at the girls
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:40 PM
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There are plenty of stories of men who spent a lot of time getting to know women who think that it will lead to dating but it isnt. Im not saying that the friend zone exists but it is how it feels for a lot of men. Men and women have very different views on the early stage and whileit is apperent that getting to know someone is just friendship to a women, often times getting to know someone is an attempt to move into dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:54 AM
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Its more about effort versus benefit. Most guys learn very early hopefully rthat how you feel abotu someone has nothing to do with how they feel about you. So men realize actions speak lopuder then words. So they force actionf rom women to gauge their interest because they realize getting to know someone very rarely changes the outcome as far as sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 10:19 PM
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Life changes. People grow. Your relationship with yoru family is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 10:16 PM
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you have never been to forveralonewomen. There are far fewer but they are not all waiting for mr. right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:02 AM
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I think a lot of women who are childless will get to the point where they are old and have no one to take care of them, that they will wish they had someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:35 PM
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Dude just wants to know that he can be a troll in his free time without being deplayformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:52 AM
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When you try all the good options and fail. Some people are willing to try the less good options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:42 AM
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Yeah... that ain’t true. You know how much time I spent working out just to get rejected constantly cuz I was a 5’3 Asian guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:26 AM
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It’s always about the men... every guy who has given up on love has probably been ignored hundreds of times in online dating. Hell I get rejected in person when I meet women with mutual hobbies, friends and friends if friends. And when I mean rejected , I mean basically ignored . It’s negative as shit and no, it’s not about men just having bad social skills. It’s about men looking around and realizing women care more about what being with a guy reflects about her, then actually getting to know a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:25 AM
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Seems like the most important thing to her is how people will veiw her for her choice in who to have sex with. Way down the list is actualyl enjoying it. Even way more down the list is she actually liking the guy as a person. Shit liek this reminds me why getting rejected as a man fucking hurts. The girl basically doesnt want to be seen with you because you will make her look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:03 PM
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Any activity you do solely to meet women, where as youe enjoyment is totally on how effective it is to help you date will inevitably have you slip back into negative habits. However you should try to pursue things that point you tward people near your own age and that helps you meet women. Priority one is that you enjoy what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:53 PM
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And yet how many times have I heard a women say they werent attracted to a guys look at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:14 AM
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Why is shallow being bad? I mean its normal. But if you reject someoen based solely on their physical appearance that they cannot control, you shouldnt feel good abotu it. Both because they woudl probably be a great partner you wont have in your life and because they have done nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:07 PM
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I think there is a difference between opening up and wanting to be able to emotionally depend on someone else to help with their insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:05 PM
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Yeah, I feel like for a lot of men and women, OLD was their first experience dating. Which is by its nature very superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:01 PM
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I wonder if a generation of men learned how unattractive they are through online dating. Its hard to improve in onlien dating without also runnign into stats abotu how height and race affect dating. Then you bring that insecurity and experience into real life. And also a generation of women learned how attractive they were through online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:34 PM
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Its fine. Its okay to say not to know. But to say I can do it so you should too. The idea of putting another person down when you dont know them, what they have done. Tahts just you trying to feel better abotu yourself. That has nothing to do with actually making this world better. Which this being social media maybe thats what everyone wants to do. Feel better about thmeself and get validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:07 PM
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Im not re piller but I know a lot of gusy who struggke with dating. Hell I am related to a few 5'4- 5'5 asian guys in their 40's who were good dudes, in shape , that nevr got married . That barely had any success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:56 PM
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I get so tired in this sub about people not realziing for men, getting the date and being able to show off their personality is the hardest part in dating. Thats where 90 percent of men struggle. I get women fall in love with a guys character. That that is what really makes women engage with a guy. But from a guys POV, its hardly ever relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:49 PM
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Nahhh... The thig is I was focused for a long time on goals. And then life doesnt turn out the way you think it does and your goals dont either. And the entire time you never had a ny girls. And you wake up realizing you are alone because women didnt give a crap abotu your passions or yoru goals. And if you dont achieve yoru goals , then you have nothing. I remember thinking to myself how I looked good on paper. But no women gave a crap or spent the tiome to get to know me. I would approach wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:46 PM
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Mostly they dont understand why the quality of men or number of men in general interest dropped. I knew a few friends who said they didnt want to mother a guy, in both the emotional sense and the actual cooking and cleaning sense. Then they wondered why all the men they got with where using them as their side chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:05 PM
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I have never known a man to say they hate a women for asking them out. And the worst thing a guy can do is say no if you already know him or trust the person who introduced you . What trauma? The trauma of learning the guys you like don’t like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:50 AM
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You know you can choose the men you ask out. You can choose men you know well. Men who you are friends with or who share friends that will tell you if they use women for sex. Men who you know who have been good boyfriends. Of all the things to look for in a man through your social Circle, a guy who doesn’t sleep around is one of the easiest. If you are choosing to ask out men who you don’t know, then that’s just bad choices. Or you are prioritizing different things. And why would they hate you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:22 AM
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Yes. They are just people. The ones I met were runners, and I feel like they were a different sort to the women I met beofr then. These women took responsibility for their own happiness; I think. They didnt complain about their husbands. They migth have hated their jobs but they were generally pretty happy and took effort to be supportive and positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:02 AM
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When you mean mentally superior does that mean they think they are right? Because thats a person thing, not a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:56 AM
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A man or women will more likely go out with a guy if they ask even if they arent that interested. If a women really wanted to date better men then,they would be willing ask them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:59 PM
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Men admit to being shallow. Yet women claim that men grow more attractive the more they get to know them. If women want to date more attractive better men, they are free to approach and ask out men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:00 PM
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Unhappy in a relationship because their guy isnt tall or doesnt make a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:52 PM
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Some people realize the more you become the want to be, the more you realize it isnt what women want or not relevant to her attraction. I believed when I was young if I became the person I wanted to be I would get the life I wanted. But thats not true. Then you play in the grey area, until you push your morales to their breaking point. I think if I pushed my morales to the breaing point and got the life I wanted, that validation would have turned me into a person who had the life he wanted but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:14 PM
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Yeah... even non superficial women for the most part dont want to date guys their height or lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:11 PM
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I have tried to date someoen I was not attracted to and it sucked. But the difference is I have never claimed that I didnt need physical attraction. How many women I have known have said that the reason they are with the person they are with was not because of how they looked. That it was about their personality. No guy says looks dont matter. No guy will tell a lady that the greason she cant get a date is because of her looks. But everyone thinks its all abotu persopnality for dating for a guy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:53 PM
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I have been aroudn that. They tend to get married again within a few years. SO the process repeats again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:40 PM
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I long distance run. I felt more like a stronger individual when I copuld run for hours rather then lift heavy weights. The energy felt like it lasted longer and being bigger just felt uncomfortable. Also it was nice to make friends who had similar goals and went through similar hardships. Also the married women I met runnign made me believe in women in general more. They didnt talk shit or complain about their hsubands as much. They seemed to take more responsibility over their won happiness an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:42 AM
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Adult frinedships aroudn 30 and beyond feels like a never ending cycle of making friends, losing friends, making new freinds, losing friends. Usually the people you meet move on to new hobbies, or get a BF/GF, or whatever... Its kinda depressing and feels like more work then its worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:38 AM
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It’s about humility not luck. It’s about thankfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:54 PM
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Sure man. Life is fair. You are in control. You have bad luck not other people. Others need to take advice not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:53 PM
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You seem to assume I am desperate. I know how much effort I put in. I know how long I put it in. And I do choose to put good peopel around me. The sad thign is what you dont realize is, sometimes the more effort you put in, the more you realize the things you cant change are more important then the things you can. This sint woe is me. This is peopel are different. They ahve different experiences. This isnt me sayign woe is me, its me saying you have an ego and refuse to be thankful that you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:46 PM
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Dude at the end of the day you realize one of the few things you control in your life is the people you surround yourself with. If people are rude and dont treat you well, you shouldnt be around them. Its not about being defeatist. its about surrounding yourself with good people. You want to tell me I am desperate and that wom,en can tell. Im not but there is no way for me to convince you I am not or thats no the issue. And Im fine with that. BUt if youa re able to experience love. If you have b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:25 PM
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I have spent so many years , changing things up man. You have no idea. I have approached. I have cold approached. I have gained a large social circle and hobbies. I have gotten in shape. Like I get you probably don’t believe me in that I have put in a ton of effort. It’s fine. But you are lucky and you should be thankful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:11 PM
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Shooting above my level, sure. You can’t control who you are attracted to and I ama 5’3 Asian male. But it’s fine. I don’t expect people to believe that I put in a massive amount of effort. People like to believe their succces is about the effort they put in, not that they are lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:01 PM
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5’6 isn’t that short
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:41 PM
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Some people only get rejected and have no success despite massive effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:39 PM
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How out of my way? If im standing in line at in a line for coffee and I see a cute dog I migth point it out to a stranger. Will I chat wth someone at the runnign group who is new ? Sure. But Im not randomly approaching women at a public place because Im bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 09:15 PM
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I find either you need a goal or a skill you want to get better at. Runnign was great because it was a long term goal of running a mile then a 5k then a half marathon. And plugging into running groups are nice too. Anything that doubles as social interactiona and workout is good. But its less about motivation and more about finding something you enjoy and look forward to or a goal you really want to work toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 09:10 PM
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Always ask for more. Usually anything under 30 percent is not going to seem unreasonable. Dont argue. Just ask and be comfortable with silence. Also you can always ask for things outside of pay. PTO, money / time for education, work from home, flexible hours etc, experience in different parts of the companyu you may want to transfer or at least skillyou can claim on your resume when you switch to another company.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 09:09 PM
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The secret no one tell you about self improvement is that if you amssively go out of your way to become the person you want to be and fail; the more you realize that the person you want to be is not someone women want or that the things you can change about yourself dont matter in the face of the thigns you cant change. I liek myself, doenst mean I like my life. But my life is dependent on the people around me, and likign myself is wholly dependent on the decision I make, not on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:26 PM
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Moremoney for men's for men's mental health then women. A societal push in attempt to decrease the incidence of rape for women to initiate dating and sex. A push for more money and scholarship money for men to be in college. A law that makes OLD companies publish Public information on all online dating sites about success rates, based on given information (Race, height, gender, messaging rate).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:48 PM
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Until I meet someone IRL who changes my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:41 PM
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Is this one of those times where I talk about my experience and told as a 5'3 asian guy who worked out that my experience doesnt count, or that I am really award despite having a large social circle and dont know it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:36 PM
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Womenn have more power and choice then they ever have, as they should have. But they dont care who suffers as a response to it. Society has tried to and suceeded to some degree to change the way it valued women, but refuses to change the way they value men. You dont want a bunch of bitter angry hateful men? You dont have to date them. There was that story of a black guy who befriended member of the KKK. He convinced them through kindness to change. But in the end it wasnt his job to fix these ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:41 PM
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The nice guys you interact with arent the bitter people who you talk about online. These are not the same men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:24 PM
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IRL, no not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:20 PM
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DO, you actually think men who have been treated badly by/rejected by a gender continue to interact with them? MAybe we are talking about different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:15 PM
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Amnyone man or women who cant get sex/relationship will be bitter. And the idea that all people have to do is self reflection and they can get someone is BS. You cant control who you are attracted to. Not a man or women. Dating is shitty. Datinng is shittier for men then women. DAting today is shittier for men then women then in the past. You will have more bitter men. You can shame these men, but that will only make them angrier. But no women will give any ground to men and just say yes, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:05 PM
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As a 5'3" asian guy I empathize. I remember thinking that getting in shape, having an active social life, and approaching women would eventuially help me meet someone. Man was I naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:50 PM
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It doesn’t but at the end of the day better to keep an open mind and try different things. Also when people tell you you are alone because your standards are too high, you can speak from personal experience what happens when you lower your standards. Also you really know you tried everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:14 AM
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A lot of people liked it. It depends what you want from a batman movie. It definitly had a lot of good ideas and the execution was good. It was a good movie but it wasnt a great batman movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:39 PM
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The batman was mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:50 AM
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We including OLD and women I approached who ignored me. Hundreds. Online tinder swipes then thousands. And its not just rejection its how hard you work on yourself socially, physically and professionally and see no progress. Spending many years working out and having an actice socialk life while having a good job and still getting ignored by women you approach, meet through friends of friends, online dating, through mutual interests, or even speed dating can be pretty soul crushing. Then you got…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:44 AM
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Do you know what its like to approach flirt with and ask out a women you are not physically attracted to? Its different if someone I kinda knew who I had no physical attraction said they might be interested and asked me to go out for coffee. Saying yes to that is different then asking out someone you have no visceral attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:20 PM
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Just change society to value men for being men and make it known that just because a women doesnt want to have sex with you, that doesnt mean you tied less, are less of a man or make less of a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:57 AM
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Yes. Its funny because my good female platonic friends were all ugle when they were young. I didnt usually believe them but then I saw the picture. They knew how to be friends though. And they never shit talked the people they were in relationship with to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:47 AM
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Women in my experience love hierarchy. They like to know where they are and then they enforce them. And they want to maintain their position. There was this one guy who said men express their dominance physically. Agrression. So women use different tool. More emotional and passive agressive actions. Are women jealous; sure. But I think its more about maintaining their position and their power in the current power structure. Preserving the current structure. If you play into your position and fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:30 PM
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If you are anything liek me, good friends and cardio helps. But yeah... I wish women were less mean to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:22 PM
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As a 5'3" asian male same but the opposite. My favorite is when I tell people my dating experience would be completely different if I was a 6 foot white guy.. And people will respond with of course but I dont really count, like im hunchback of notre dame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:19 PM
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Well maybe she has nice feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:29 AM
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Ehhh.. the men I know who like dominant women are really insecure but successful and smart. So they are used to being able to get attractive women and manipulate them, but secretly don’t respect them for being manipulatable and being impressed by him. They got a lot of imposter syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:16 AM
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I think in a culture where women are the instigators/initators of dating and sex, and im not a women so I have no idea what is goign on, women would be asking men for consent. So there would be no grey line. Yes men who want to assault women will, but women would never have the grey line sexual encounters that they regret that isnt exactly rape but is kinda rape or at least one that was had for not good reasons. And What is and isnt rape would be much clearer in society . Now I understand you as…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:47 PM
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I love how you think men who fail try less. Not that they try massively harder then the average guy only to get nowhere and realize the things he can’t change matter more then the things he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:49 PM
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If society standardized women asking men out and women being the instigators of sexual interest then sexual assault and rape would go down. The words , if I was interested I would have asked you out , would be said. And women being smaller would not have the same fear of safety rejection that women have when rejecting men. But being called a chad chaser is probablyworse right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:46 PM
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A lot of beliefs/ philosophies/religions are controlled by men. The ones that have nothing to do with men like astrology and witchcraft tend to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 07:57 PM
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Liberals seem more likely tp leave the country then to actually fight for their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:27 PM
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I mean personally I didnt give up. I just took a break. But usually its not about how many its the context. Online dating was usually about 60 rejections per time. Speed dating, I met about 20 women who all rejected me. At a meetup group.. It was more over years. Friends through frined, thats more liek I stopped expecting anything or goign out of my way over years. At some point if you are lucky you aspire to be the best version of yoruself. You work hard and when you get close, then yuo look ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:07 PM
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I dunno. Personality. Decency? Loyalty and honesty? reliability. Emotional support? Being a good person who you can rely on to have your back in life. Someone to believe in you. Spmeone in your life who genuinely wants you to be happy, succesful and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:04 PM
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I mean have you ever embraced a single life? I feel liek when women say that , they are thinking of months or a few years in their twenties. I dont think they know what its liek to spend a decade in their thrities being single with no one interested in them. Seeing all their friends get married and have kids. Have them move on no longer having time for you or having anythign in common with you. Making new friends who do the same thing, so you make new friends who do the same thing. In a constant…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:54 PM
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And another hard pill to swallow that sometimes looks do matter and it is the most determinant factor in dating. My dating life as a 5'3 asian guy in the US would be completely different if I was a 6'2 white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:58 AM
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Nothign worse then getting rejected by a common friend, especially a common female friend. If you think a women ever cares about her single guys friends, you would be wrong. Female friends are in theor own world dealign with their own shit. They dont care if you are single or not. I say this as someoen with more femal then male friends and a fairly large social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:57 AM
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I have tried this. I was the person who new everyone. Just tried to surround myself with positive good people who had common interests in. What you learn is that you end up having no perment people in your life. Peiople move into and out of your life and while everyone has at least a divorce or kids to talk about. You are always alone, having to make new friends when you rold ones move on for work or meet someone. All that did is teach me how hollow adult friendships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:55 AM
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Nithing worse then being ignored by people when a mutual friend introduces you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:54 AM
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Nothing like getting ignored by someone who you meet througha common interest, or worse yet through a common friend. But I guess acknowledging me would be too much to ask, but at least our mutual friend sends me an email as a way of apology...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:53 AM
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Nothing like being ignored by a women a mutual friend often a mutual femal friend introduces you to. Its like shit, you think our mutual friend is goign to introduce you to some creepy weirdo... Im not asking for a deep meaningful converstaion, just look me in the eye and say high and dont pretend I am not acutally in the conversation. That way our friend wont have to email me an apology for how she acted and I wont have to pretend it was no big deal. And I wont have to tell the story at our mut…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:51 AM
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Lol this is the experience of an attractive guy. You are lucky you can win some and lose some when you approach. its a luxury not a lot of gusy have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:47 AM
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Yeah, most men would never approach then. Or get a date once a year if they waited for signals from women lookign at them or being in their vicinity. I remember I woudl always go to a runnign group on thursday. I knew everyone and was well liked but Im stilla 5'3 asian guy. The number of times I saw women hit on other guys there was astounding, but no one was hitting on me. No one wanted to talk to me. And when I tried to talk to them I always got ignored. Didnt matter I was in shape. Didnt matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:45 AM
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Trump shouldnt have won in the first place and the issues with the democratic party still ecist and they will not entice people to change by saying the republicans are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:43 PM
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In my mind afghanistan was a fight between those who had families and those who did not. But that is probably too much of a oversimplification but its an interesting thign to think about. Young men with nothing to lose will fight longer and be more able to be radicalized then someone with a job wife kids and a mortage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:44 PM
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its interesting seeing the difference in generations. Like the younger generations that never experienced the cold war and the threat of nuclear war or even 911. The idea of nationalism is much different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:42 PM
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I voted for kang
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:39 PM
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And the biden administration fixed the divide . Oh wait, everyone who doesnt support biden is stupid, racist and mysoginist. He should have no problem gettign relected looking at his popularity ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:30 PM
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Yeah but I made that distinction. I said Im not fighting for US spheres of influience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:21 PM
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Its not about trump, its why he was voted in that is the problem. Has any of that reason changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:20 PM
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If you think that then you really dont understand the problems with the democratic party. Trump exists because of how shitty republican and democratic party are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:17 PM
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Thats why I think taking russia off swft would be bad. Last thing we need in the world is a competing banking system built by china.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:13 PM
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There was an askmen thread about what you would do if they insituted a draft. Everyone was negative against it, but its liek would you really not want to join if a country landed troops uin your own country? If you are from the US wouldnt you join up enthiscuatically if some country landed troops on hawaii or new york?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:12 PM
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There is this one comic who said that instead of losing weight for a wedding, they should gain it so I. Wedding picture people will tell them how good they look. And while I’m sure not everyone, I have yet to see someone wedding pictures where they look more overweight assuming they weren’t pregnant then they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 12:31 AM
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Everyone gains weight after they have kids and get married. And that number does not specify for age or marital status . So tell me do you disagree with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:15 PM
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Pretty sure the average single adult women does not weigh 170. Which is who men are talking about. Not 35 year old moms with 2 kids and a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:14 PM
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You should talk to single women in their 50’s and fourties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:34 AM
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Does a women who ends up going long periods turning her husband down for sex realize she is in an unhappy marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:45 PM
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Well talk to the overweigth women in your life and see if they have boyfriends who are skinnier . Eyes go to the most attractive people naturally, but most people have to actively look at the below average and average people. And if the average women is overweight then that means the averag women who is overweigth with a skinnier boyfriend will in all liklihood mean that the average guy is dating a women who is probably less attractive then them. Because lets be honest, most women dont put on we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:34 PM
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When I see overweight and women who are slightly overweight, they have boyfriends who are skinnier then them and better lookign then them. And people say it must be because women gain weight after kids, but i have not found that to be true. When I see the top hottest girls, they tend to have men who are less attractive but everyone else; I dont find that to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:31 PM
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At the top yes but at the average to middle no. Every acergeve looking who is usually somewhat overweight is fatter and less attractive then her boyfriend. And no they didn’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:54 AM
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Because people think they got their partners through hard work and deserving and not a genetic lottery completely out of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:52 AM
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What’s funny is she basically described the carousel young women into the beta male provider narrative this sub loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:50 AM
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https://youtu.be/oM1V-UyWiOE?t=108 Stuff liek this alwasy makes me think people assume success is automatic with effort and time. Sometimes shit goes bad and no one will care why, just you have nothing. No women cares if you have a good heart. And life has a way of destroying ambition for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:20 AM
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Presonally I tried that path and hobbies and friendships have diminishing returns for me. Things I enjoy loose satsifaction. Friendships are good but people move into and out of your life rapidly. So you have to get good at making new freinds and friendship feels a little artificial because it feels as an adult more self serving. But that is my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:38 PM
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To many men, its the best of all those options. None of those things fulfill a man's needs the same. There are reasons why men choose this path, when it goes against societirs morales and conditioning. You may resent and be unhappy with a women who resoponds to the red pill. But it still feels liek she loves you. Maybe that love is conditional and attached to a personality that is artificial. But it still feels more like love then some guy yo hang out with and some women you pay to have sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:44 PM
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They have tried both and chose 1. The best option in their experience. Its liek telling a guy who comes from a poor background that he can be a millionaire. And he tries and all he comes up against is a world where the odds seem so long its not worth trying. Options is something for rich people who have parenst who pay for them to go to college and help them get a job with their connections. And if you dont understand that, then you exist in a bubble. its easy to sit back and judge these men as …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:22 PM
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I am not red piller but sometimes you accept people for who they are and not who you want them to be. And you become the person that person needs/wants in order to be treated the way you want to be treated. You can sit in judgement and but men are human and its not hard to see how visceral men feel intamacy from payign for sex, waifu pillows, or sugar daddying some girl. You can stand by your morals but if you do; you may liek yourself more; but that doesnt mean you liek your life and have your …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:10 PM
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If a guy hits onr your girl that just means shes hot. That doesnt mean you were right to move in with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:15 AM
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I was watching a podcast and one women there said that she liked seeing women flirt with her boyfrined. That seemed normal and it didnt bother me. Then she said the reason whty was she said it was because "I was right." In my mind it bothered me because if you have a live in boyfriend for a couple of years and you think a women who doenst know him boy can validate your decision. Well that idea pissed me off
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:52 AM
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Maybe. A lot of men express fear and sadness as anger. Probably because fear and sadness arent acceptable emotions. But I do think if you dont allow a man to express anger, there is less of a chance he will express deeper emotions. And by allow I mean not shame him for being angry by makign it seem like he is at fault. Which is something men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:56 PM
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There was a women runner who was competing and to try to be an olympic runner. She wrote an article talking about how her shitty male coaches made ruined her and made her injured. I wrote a comment about how she was a grown women and trying to compete at the olympic level would very likley lead to injury. Its not healthy. How so many men in sports go through the exact same thing but her story is different because of the pressure and because there was no female coaches. I got downvoted to shit. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:18 PM
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Yes, but you cant make them be happy. Its not your responsibility to make them happy. Support them, yes. Some people see their spouses as a reflection fo their own unhappiness and insecurity and punish them for that. Sometimes to their face and sometimes to their friends and coworkers behind their back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:11 PM
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nahh... Its not socially acceptable to not be able to get a date or a relationship. No one is like, well you can do everythign rioght and still fail. They will ALL immidiatly zer in on a multitude of flaws to make someone unworthy. No guy is hearing from his platonic male or female friend that he is a good loyal friend amazing friend that shouldnt let some girl who wont even spend 15 minutes to get to know him on a coffe date judge his value a s a person. Boy do I wish I did though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:00 PM
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A lot of good things in my lif ehappened because of my attempt to improve myself to date. I amde a lot of friends got into good shape. But everything actualyl dealing with women. Being ignored, online and in person. At meetups, when meeting friends of friends and at social gatherings... Its just a huge giant black hole that from which my self confidence cannot escape. At the end of the day I keep asking myself why the fuck would I go out of my way to be around people who make me feel like shit. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:48 PM
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It taught me how unattractive I was. Like you research how toim improve your dating profile and message and you come across stuff liek how race and height affect your dating. Amnd the thing about OLD is you have so many variables you can change. After changing all the variables you realize how the things you cant change matter for some more then the things you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:36 PM
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There are unattractive nice guys who fhave friends who are women but no one is asing about them being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:34 PM
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Andrew yang talked about how as you get older the things that make you happy now stop giving you or give you less satisfaction as you get older. How he was thankful he was married with kids. Seinfeld who was a confirmed bachelor said he didn’t realize what marriage was and how it made him grow. He even talked about how he was jealous of gaffigan because he had kids and the struggle it created for him to help him be a better artist, as he was too comfortable. Another person, I forget to , maybe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:37 AM
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Equality. Better educated women. Obviously its not bad but for a long time women had to be with a guy to survive. Now women have more of a choice and make more money then men on their 20's so being with a guy is an option. Not to mention women who are educated have less of a chance having kids. Society has shifted in a way to be better for women. Obviously its not perfect but it has gotten better. What it means to be a women has changed, but what it means to be a man has not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:26 PM
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Its like how a women in a romance story wants the guy to have many options but choose the girl. Not only to choose the girl but to act differently with the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:43 AM
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There is a big difference between being a a guy and having to make all the moves and being passive in dating. Its like saying parenthood dmeands are the same for a man and a women. Yes there are basic needs that need to be met but the experience is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:41 AM
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IF women were the ones approaching, I one hundred percent agree. If there is a women who I am not attracted to but she is asking me out and seems like a good person and fun; and she exp[licitly tells me she is attracted to me; then I am going to try to see past looks. In my opionion this isnt a man or women thing. Its the dynamic in dating. I have seen womena pproach ment and I have seen men approach women. And people are more willing to give someoen a chance when the other person is interested.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:31 AM
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I always wonder when someone writes this, if they have approached flirted wih and asked out someone they aren't attaracted to. To me its not about looksmatch. Its a desire to actually go through the entire process. We arent women who get asked out by guys who want a chance. We are men who explicitly say we are attracted by askign them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:20 AM
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To me it’s not about being ruthless. It’s about mutual respect. You can love someone but not want to be with them for the rest of your life. You can respect that someone wants a different life, without saying it is wrong. I think thinking what you want in a partner is different then what you want from life. But I do think people change in marriage and if/when people do the marriage can end. If a partner stops caring about how they look and about sex it’s fine to not want to be married to that pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:31 PM
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I find a lot of the way I play with my cousins babies or even with my own dog are an expression of unmet desires on a very basic level. I remember getting hit hard in the feels when I saw the husband of a my sisters inlaw hug his 11 year old daughter. He is a quite man but there was joy and adoration on his face and embarassment on hers. Sad that ill probably never have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:21 PM
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Men are different and want different things. Attracrtive/succesful men who have women chasing them will more likely want a less tradtional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 09:42 PM
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I am the 1%!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:51 AM
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As someone who lives in southern california there are a lot of us. Women just dont notice us. But we didnt leave our country to behere. This is our home, where we have our firmed and our family and lives. If we our outsiders here, then we are outsiders everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:42 PM
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Evidently being unable to get a date despite messaging hundreds of women on OLD and approaching women irl; while being in good shape and haveing a good social circle is wanting a chad lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:35 PM
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Not sayign it doesnt happen, I just mean if it happens a lot. If a person is unable to see it coming. Not think, this good lookign, in shape, 6 foot, succesful guy approached me and asked me out. Obviously we must be a good match and I should sleep with him ont he first date with no fear that he has no interest in a LTR. Not, hey this 6 foot white guy in his 20's who makes more then 60k a year, in shape is automatically is basically in the top 5% of desirable men. I should probaby be careful bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:30 PM
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I think most women are just not aware that their physical standards are very high. Any time a women thinks she does something wrong on a date which causes a guy after sleeping with her to never call her back; I think its a women overestimating what she thinks is her physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:22 PM
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I think few are the women who dont care about physical appearance; and even fewer are women who dont care how the man they are with reflects on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:49 PM
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Well they thought they were messaging 4's but really they were 8's.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:32 AM
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I dont remember which study but I believe the looks were based on how women ranked the men; which was not evenly distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:29 AM
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No its said womenb talked to a wider range of men in their opinion. The truth of the matter was though, they were actually messaging men at or above their level. Women had no idea that what they though was average was actuallyt not. They had no idea when they were messaging down they were actually messaging up .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:04 AM
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Sounds like a man who never had to choose between having the life you want to have or being the person you want to be. Thats a luxury not everyone has.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:01 AM
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Yeah thanks. But so was the guy telling me I should be on hgh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:44 PM
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I have never shown a pic here to anyone and been better off for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:34 PM
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Yeah no. I put more effort then you did before getting a first date. I know that. But I’m not gonna convince you otherwise. But your not going to convince me otherwise so I guess we are both closed minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:30 PM
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Last guy I sent a pick to send I wasn’t swole enough and I neede to take steroids and hgh if I was serious about trying to date. This despite running marathons and lifting several times a week for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:27 PM
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Or not interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:35 PM
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old
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:32 PM
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Yeah tell that to the doctor who cant get his patient to take ivermectin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:31 PM
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Just talk to and if they enjoy a conversation go on a 15 minute date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:30 PM
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Yeah.. nah... I mena I used to think that. But I realized that wasnt true. Not that I expect you to believe me. In these situations its fairly easy to say someone lacked confidence because there really is no defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:29 PM
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As someone who is 5'3 and never gotten a single date despite massive effort; I always hate this fucking argument. Notr that your not allowed to date men you are attractive to. It justy really hurts. Not that its your problem or you shoul even care or change your mind. But the idea you and every other women liek you arent asking for much in the world, ionly to not date someone like me just makes me realize no matter how much I tried I was always fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:13 PM
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Most women In their 20's and 30's will eliminate 50 percent of gusy before they open their mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:12 PM
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Its funny Im older now and I remember seeing pictures of myself when I was younger thinking I was not bad looking, but realizing how little succes I had. Hell I just saw a picture of myself before I had to basically shave my head and injured from runnign too much and thought I wasnt bad looking. But then I remember all the women who ignored me irl and on OLD and realized I was still not good enough to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:10 PM
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Somewhere there will be a person with a parasitic worm who dies becuse they refuse ivermectin because they think its for horses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:08 PM
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The fact it is a boyfriend/girlfriend is relevant. Not just friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:23 PM
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All I know is that I don’t know many women when they are hanging out with their friend, go out if their way to convince their friends boyfriend to hang out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:05 PM
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And when you say that people will still tell you you havnt done enough and imply you still deserve to be alone; while they are banging girls in high school without ever actualyl having to ask anyone out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:00 PM
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Have you ever payued for your friends boyfriends uber to convince him to hang otu with you when he was on the fence about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:57 PM
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And how many plane tickets have you bought for your friends boyfriends who werent that interested in going?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:55 PM
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I feel like the older that person is when they get married the larger the age gap. Standard deviation is probably high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:54 PM
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Its because incel content subs get removed from reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:48 PM
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Dont know the guy, but this story makes him sound insecure. Its one thing to pick up the bill; but this is different. And who knows why/if women date older men. But its an objective fact that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:46 PM
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I went to park city to snowboard and its weird to be a minority there. Like it was weird to be on a plane where I and everyone I knew were the only people that werent white.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:21 PM
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Maybe its just me, but I feel like social media has forced a lot of women to become out of touch with how they are actually feeling and more focused on how people MIGHT feel about them. I dont think men have improved but women have definitly suffered more motionally from social media and a need to focus on how people veiw them instead of how they actually feel abotu themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:28 PM
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I remember when I thoght my goals were achievable... Boy was I wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:25 PM
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I know a women who once said it was a real problem in dating that there were not enough men with college educatuon... Yeah no girl ever asked abotu my college education before not being interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:35 PM
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People who are confident never say their worth, they just say I dont want to be involved with someone. People who talk abotu their worth , sound entitled. A guy who says I work hard to be X and deserve a girl who is also X sound the same way. Its not about being confident, its about claiming your worht somehow makes you entitled to something. Not that someone you should insult you or put you doewn for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:31 PM
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Almost every young (20's) overweight women I know has a boyfriend much less overweight then her. And Most of the overweight men I know are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:40 PM
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Its weird getting older because you realize that you arent going to be the person you though you would be nor live the life you though you would live.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:40 PM
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Yeah I had a pretty large social circle. It never helped me dating. Nothing like being introduced to a friend of a friend and getting igonored. Nothing like meeting a friend of a friend and trying to chat and having them avoid eye contact... .Its liek lady; you know Im good friends with your friends. YOu know everyone here knows me. Why are you acting suddenly like I am some weird creepy guy. Im just making small talk. Man I used ot think the way you did. I assumed if I knew people and went out …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:59 PM
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Yeah.. sure. Its a lot like weight. A little extra weigth isnt a big issue, but a lot it is. 5'8" isnt that short but 5'3" is. I dont know how many times I have heard women say I just want a guy as tall as me, and then I come in and say im shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:43 PM
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At the end of the day you see way more women who say they were not initially attractied to their husbands then vice versa. IMHO thats the price women pay for being the passive one in the initial dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:36 PM
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You can stop hanging out with a friend at anytime without any real explanation. As you get older you realize, especially as a guy how hard it is to maintain frinedships. Its possible but people ahve ids, get married and move. As an adult you have to get good at maintaining old friendships and/or making new ones. Without a wife or a long term relationships; your memories are your own. You arent creating memories with anyone. A memory with a friend is just another piocture you can share of them on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:02 PM
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Reddit is not a haven for free soeech.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:43 PM
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How the fuck you gonna accuse me of tall tales and lyign after I go out of my way to be tell the truth? Then tell me to sit down because I tried to be honest. This is what happens when you try to be honest to toxic assholes. Instead of sayign nah you are mistaken about what 4 plates is. Then yolu pile on . Have some self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:24 AM
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Sure you tell me that average women would rate a 5'3 asian guy better then pete davidson. And pete davbidson is below average attractiveness? That feels pretty objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:35 AM
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You enjoy shitting on people. I literally went out of my way to clarify to make sure I was right and you want to be an asshole to me. Honest mistake man. Sorry if my casual marathon running and gym going for the last ten years wasn’t enough to get a date to you,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:03 PM
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45*4 +35... its not that hard to lift/ add honestly. I maxed out adding 30 more lbs, but never tried more because I never had a spotter and Honestly I hated being that big. Hit my shoulder on so many corners. People said I hugged to hard. So many broken pencils and plastic spoons. Is 4 plates 4 on each side or just 4 total. I dltn even know actually. If its 4 on each side yeah I didnt do that. But whatever Im fine with you not believing me. Im just some random person on the internet. Remdinds me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:33 AM
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That beauty standards put me at the bottom of the pile and there isnt anything I can do about it, sure I guess. God knows I dont expect anyone to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:49 AM
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More effort then you did to get your first date
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:56 AM
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I met women through meetups and through friends. Didnt help. I didnt count. was out most nights of the week just meeting people buildign upa social circle and talkign to people. Those 4 times I ran I was out at running groups. I was one of the coaches at one marathon trainning group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:40 AM
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There was a comedian Godfrey who was asked “ why is everything about race” and he -answered “exactly, why is it all about race. “
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:15 PM
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Come on, if he is considered unattractive I’m basically a troll. I may have insecurity but it doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:37 PM
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I dunno man. I rmemeber when I was gettign ready to run my 5 marathion in 2 years. I was at that time benching like whtever 4 plates is . I had a good job. I decided to try speed dating. Signed up for 3 nights. Got a haircut bought some new clothes . Got some nuce jeans tailored. I didnt get 1 date from thos e3 nights, I was running at the time 40 miles a week and lifitng 4 times a week and I had been doing so for almost 5 years. Not 1 fucking date. Its like what more else do I need to do... I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:57 PM
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men are twice as likely to die from an opiod overdose... MEn are more likely to die from sucicide. This sint about men getting on demand sex. This is abotu men rather dying then live in this world. But you can straw man this to whtever you want. And I say this as a man who was friends with a women who died from opiods.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:45 PM
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Nah, you are aloud to like a tall guy as much as I am a skinny girl. But lets not act like they are average. Ive met kind smart anf funny oveweight women. Women who I wished I was attracted to but wasnt. I didnt feel good about not being attracted to them. Should you have an issue with likeing tall guys, hell no. But you shouldnt feel 100 percent alright with rejecting a guy just because of his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:38 PM
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Men killign themselves and dyign from drug overdoses... Men are suffering but the world doesnt care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:32 PM
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Please... Abusers are manipulative gaslighter who lie and become whatever people want inorder to get what they want. The average guy with no luck with women, refuses to change and lie inorder to get a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:22 PM
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If he is a 5 I as a 5'3" asian male is at best a 2.5 no matter how much I workout. Do women really think is that a 6 foot not overweight white guy is average?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:18 PM
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Pete davidson says that duirng a date he will pull out his dick and say what are we gonna do about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:18 PM
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In my country women approach attractive men and engage them in conversation. Usually especially when alcohol is ionvolved
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:50 AM
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I meant personality wise. Strong proud black man vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:57 AM
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Id rather have to lose weight to get a partner then become an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:12 AM
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Its up to you if you think there is no problem with being superficial. Other people might disagree. f
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:04 AM
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Meh... I have seen womenchase boring men over and over. Men who already have girls. I have made women laugh. I have been the most liked funniest guy in the room. At the end of the day Im stil an 5'3 asian guy . So they want a fun guy, sure. But at the end fo the day there is still a attractiveness thereshold you have to meet to look good in picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:52 PM
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Its superficial. Not that you should date anyoen you arent attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:48 PM
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Its suyperficial. Can you help being superficial a little. No. But is there Nothing wrong with it? of course. No one should be dating anyone they are not attracted to, but you shouldnt feel good about dating based on ingrained raciual steriotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:47 PM
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I think for black women its a class thing, but not for an asian or indian male.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:45 PM
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Is that because of looks or is that because a sterotypical strong black man is more attractive then a stereotypiucl strong black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:45 PM
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At the end of the day some men have to choose between hating their life or hating themself. No one needs to be told that having no morals or emptahy will give them mor oppurtunities to get what they want. But you still become what other people want instead of what you want in order to get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:43 PM
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If you are happy with dating then you would probably not be here as a guy. Life as an a guyu able to get women they are attracted is blu pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:41 PM
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You alright bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:40 PM
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What happnes first? will a women realize she has bad taste in men/aiming out of her league consistently, or will she have sex with a guy thinking that will make her more attractive to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:39 PM
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Have I had attravie friends that were women. Sure. But their value as a friend with me went way beyond just talking. I have enougha verage lookign friends men and women I can talk to about my life and vent with. Most attractive women are not worth being friends with. They usually think their presence and conversation make them good friends. And it does not. Most men / unattractive women are more fun, interesting and funnier to talk to then the average attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:37 PM
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They tend to loose all ambition to work and own a house. If they have no postiive social interaction with women they tend to end up resenting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:42 PM
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I believe personally if a guy asks you out and you accept it doesnt mean you are attracted to him. But it does mean he is attracted to you. But I may be alone in that assumption. Obviously there are other factors in the relationshio that may lead men to believe differently. But in general thats what I think. MEn are all different. A really good looking confident guy who approaches you and asks for a date when he doent know you at all at the grocery store is probably going to be more fine with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:41 PM
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I dont want to pay for 200 dollar dinner date; but I dont live in a world where getting the validation of an attractive women accepting on and going on a coffee date is worth more then the 15 minutes I would actually spend on a date. Do most men here really get so many dates that rejection for a 15 minute coffee date is worse then wasting the 15 minutes on the date?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:32 PM
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Have friends and a pet. Also have hobbies and goals. I Would rather be able to date. Friends move on. Pets die. Hobbies and goals; especially phsyical ones are fleeting. Being able to get married and have kids is more meaningful in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:28 PM
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The running groups I got to are all abotu 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:24 PM
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If you cant have a good relationship with another male or female enough to get married; what makes you think you are emotionally mature enough to have raise a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:20 PM
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but are they bad boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:55 PM
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Yeah I friends of friends introdyuce me to women and they didnt make eye contact. A few times. I have approached friends while they were talkign to women they know and same. Fun times. A lot of these times were with friends who were women. One freidn even apologized in an email to me for her behaviour. That was nice. I remember I was sayign byt to a freidn at meet up and she was talkign to someone else. I smiled at the lady and she gave me a dirty look. Good thing I was already set to leave. Mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 04:37 AM
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I dunno man. Plenty of women like BTS. And they dotn exactly seem like muscular bad boys. Neither did n'sync back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:41 AM
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I did an experioement where I just tried to get women to make eye contact. In line at the grocery store or the coffee shop. At the gym I have been going to to for several years. On the street while I am jogging in the morning. I realized not just that women dont make eye contact but thye seem to actively avoid it unless they are standing behind a cash register. Then one day I went runnign with my bette lookign frined. And as we were running on the beach I realized as I tried to look at women tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:33 AM
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Women make eye cintact with you? Funny thing is I tried an experiment where I just tried to get women I was attracted to make eye contact with me... That was a very, very depressing month. Nothing like approachg a friend of mine while thye are talking to an attractive women just to have they not make eye contact with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:16 AM
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To me its not clear that you wont be allowed on the discord if you arent willing to say your reddit username. Maybe thats just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:59 AM
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Maybe you should tell people its required to give your reddit username to join the discord unless things have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:14 AM
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Hate watched the morning show
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:07 AM
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And he will still get women. Yet men who have no success with women. Who have never pressured women into anything are the bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:18 AM
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I think looking for someoen with a complementery personality is more important then looking for equality. Also not having kids probably helps a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:36 AM
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You will never feel equal. One person is always goign to give more then the other. If you dont want to do all the hosue chores find a guy who likes to clean. If you want someone to help out with the kids find a man who likes paying with kids and loves being a father. But that same man may be fine working at some minimum wage job with no wish to make more money. I think its dumb for a man to complain about how clean the hosue is when he does nothing. But do I think its dumb for a women to blame a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:22 AM
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This women sounds horrible for a LTR. Everyone always thinks they are doing more then the other person. The idea of equality is a horrible expectation to have when going inot a relationship. I would not want to be with anyone who has an imaginery score total in their mind where they are keeping track of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:11 AM
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If your anaverage 5'10 white guy probably a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:23 AM
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My friend dated a girl who was below his attractivene4ss. She cooked and cleaned for him, was enthusiastic in sex. She happily shared in his hobbies and enjoyed his friends. Wanted the same general lifestyle as him. Sure she was co dependent but that girl given the chance could win a guy over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:22 AM
2

At 48 what type of goals do you need a man to have outside of him knowing what makes himself happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:42 AM
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I love how in this perfect worl dwomen will get to know you enough to actualy knw what is goign on in your life. Maybe this is true for some people... The type of people who can go on online dating and get a date, but not for all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:40 AM
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If they are there on a friday or saturday night probably
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 08:21 AM
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Join a weekday night bowling league. Go to your friends kids birthday party. Arcade bars. Airsoft events. Maybe a gym on a friday or saturday night.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 08:16 AM
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Shout out to parents who give presents to kidless adults during Christmas when they give presents to your kids. I got too many nieces and nephews.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:15 PM
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Because a lot of women get a huge ego boost from getting a guy to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:30 AM
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Personally it doenst work for me. Not that it may work. There are a lot fo basic self improvement ideas you can do that arent morally incorrect. But when you start getting into the more grey stuff; you ahve to decide are you personally alright with the actions. In generall all the healthy attractive succesful people with healthy expectations of what they want, are going to find someone. Everyone left has to scramble with people who are flawed. The men who are willing and able to lower their phsy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:50 PM
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Thats not love thats obsession or at the very least a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:57 AM
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Im glad I gave up on online dating. I remember i figured out I spent at that point (way more now) 40 hours trying to get a date online and didnt get a single date. Thats just messaging. Tahts not including askign peopel for input on my profile, reading up on what to message and signing up for different sites. Hell this doesnt even include my tinder stuff, just eharmony, match POF, yahoo personals (im old), etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:05 PM
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Taking responsibility for your own happiness and not assuming your marriage, family or spouse will provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:44 AM
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Because some women just want attention, they really arent attracted to the guy. Not many men here, but plenty of men are willign to wait for marriage as long as the women publicly says he is her boyfriend and adds value to his life. Fliritng is not really addign value to most men's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:42 PM
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Call the police, yeah that's a lie. Talk shit about men who hit on them, they absolutely do that. I spent a fair amount of time hearing my sister and her friends talk shit about men hitting on them respectfully at the club. Women absolutely talk shit about men who hit on them and laugh about them with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:44 AM
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She lied about her personality in essence. Gott adminre she was able to do it for so long though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 02:05 AM
1

What did chris rock say, no one is trying to steal her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:10 AM
0

just watched the netflix movie love hard and remmbered clearly how my sister basically catfished a guy into marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:09 AM
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There was a story on the internet of a guy who went to see an escort. He spent the entire time crying about how his wife and best friend was dying from cancer. His wife was the one who hired the escort and insisted he go because they used to have a very active sex life. At the end of the day does your man know you really care about him. Do you provide enough benefit to your guy without sex. Thewre was another story of a therapist who was talking to a guy who used to escorts He said at the end of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:53 AM
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Women, date in your friend group. Is the guy genuinely capable of being friends with a women married, single, old and young. Do women genuinely enjoy being purely platonic friends. Lower your standards and date that guy. For men, look like you care about your appearance, have no standards, go out a lot and be willing to approach every women without shame and directly ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:49 AM
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You dont get it. The men wiling to "force" themselves down women's throats are doing just fine int he current sexual envrionment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:36 AM
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I dont care. Im looking forward to rooting for the catfisher in the netflix rom com movie love hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:34 AM
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Even if you believe you have all these attributes, that does not mean you will find dating success. And the harder you try and the mor you improve and still fail, the more you realize the person you want to be is either not what women want or at least not relevant to what they want. Just because you like yourself and have a social circle of people who like you, that doent mean women will want to date you. MAny red pill ideas are the same as any other advice. But there are some ideals that men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:52 AM
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You could just date within your friend circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:36 AM
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Honestly, I think no healthy women will emotionaly rely on a single male friend who may or may not have feelings for them. A good women understands this si not something a good friend does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:33 AM
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Men based theive value on their profession. Who has the greater probablity of gettign a divorce, a situation where a man loses his job or a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:18 PM
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Nah MAN I hit the gym fixed my hair and got nicer clothes. Hell I remember the first time I tried speed dating. I was running like 40 miles a week and lifting preparing for a marathon and lfiting 4 times a week. GOt some new clothes. Got a new haircut. I went 3 times and changed how I dressed each time. My 5'3 aian ass didnt get a single date. I love how all you arrgoant assholes thing no one tries. Like it wasnt through blood sweat and tears that women showed us time and time again what reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:16 PM
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IS it that they worked or that they had the same oppurtunity. There is a quote that went," 'When you took a man's job away from him, his ability to feed and clothe his family, that man was going to get angry." I further put if you take away a mans job you take away his ability to have a family and that man will get angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:08 PM
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I'm tired of getting rejected by women before I even speak a single word and then being told its all personality. But I'd rather go online and say it here then tell the women who won't even look me in the eye despite trying to talk to her in a socially acceptable situation. Its not abotu proving it, its about tellign other men the truth. Its about changing society to show that you value as a man has nothign to do with whther a women wants to date you. Which runs counter to society. To women. Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:07 PM
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when she was a child she told her father she wanted to go to college. He answered why, your just gonna be someone's wife. AFter that lets say she has issues ever accepting any help from men. Even sugesting that a man helped her even at a hobby will piss her off. Its kinda weird ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 08:22 AM
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I new a women who took no money from her husband because she didnt want him to feel entitled to contact with their kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:06 AM
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I only said it because as a man who never had a date, I wondered myself why I should want a family when I couldn't even get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:08 AM
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My sister had a friend. She was the first friend in her friend group to get married. One by one the rest of her friends for 15 years ish got married and had kids and shew could not have kids. She would cry to her friends about what was wrong with her, why she could nt have kids. Everytime a friend got pregnant the words that were said after gratz was did you tell the friend about it. Yet men here have no sympathy for not just not being able to have kids, nor have a family, but even being able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:01 AM
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You assume after getting comfortable with yourself women will give you signals of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:11 PM
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The guys tend to be what women see in books /movies/ etc... aimed at women. Confident well dresses succesful men who make them feel special for choosing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:07 AM
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Every guy who talks about difficulty in dating is told he isn't good enough. So yeah for a guy who is supposedly value is measured by his success being unable to get a girl is considered a great insult by society. Society will literally basically say you arent good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:56 PM
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At the end of the day I think a guy gets himself going while acwomen is more expecting the guy to get things going.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:41 AM
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Or maybe some men just aspire to be a nice person. Whether it gets you a date or not. Because being cruel would bring them pain and shame and make them hate themself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:57 PM
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There is a big difference between being angry at some women and then going out of your way to do somethign that will hurt a women who is in all liklihood treated you well during a limited interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:54 PM
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But you are in front of a person who I assume is being kind to you, knowing you will take what you want and in all liklihood hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:42 PM
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Why would you want to be around a horribe person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:41 PM
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I get you can justify it, but you are still going out of your way to lie to someone for sex. I understand sometimes you are in a situation where you have to lie, but the idea that you see a women and go up to her with the intent to lie to her. And not a single lie but an enitre conversation and interaction. One where its not about survival like money, but about sex. One where you are lying to someone who is being nice to you in all likleyhood. Where it is a preplanned thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:36 PM
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Thats like saying one legged man can walk just as far a a man with 2 legs, they just have to put in more work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:16 PM
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God its funny because people think struggling in dating means you had a hard time in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:12 PM
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Its fine for some men, but it forces many men to either become less morale going down the pill idealogoy or be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:08 PM
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I dont understand how some men can ask out women they arent really attracted to without feeling like a horrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:04 PM
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the thing is as a guy you have to ask out someone you want to date. A women will have the luxury of being asked out and going out with a guy he is not attracted to, but its assumed that a guy who approaches flirts with and asks out a girl is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:02 PM
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Is it about knowing your SMV or is it you can’t control who you are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:40 AM
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Do you now how hard it is to be the most liked and charsasmatic / popular man in the room? Do you know most men arent like that and dont want to be like that; but that is what women point to when they say this guy has no problem with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:52 PM
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Everytime I write a message on OLD or approach a women in social situations I challenge a women to prove me wrong. I want to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:40 PM
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I always laaugh because people like to act like all a guy has to do is work on himself for a few years and suddenly all he will be able to date. Like working on your personality and hitting the gym and working out is the only thing keeping guys from a good relationship. Not saying someone should try but if you think thats alla guy needs, then you are living in a very privledged dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:24 AM
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1+1=2 only works if you see a chang in your life based on your work. Accepting you have no control in the end is a part of life and growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:18 PM
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But acknowledging it would help people feel better about their life. Not saying you shoudl say its the only thing, but acknowledging it is a thing would help men realize the difficulty of their task. That some men date n hard mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:16 PM
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Whenever people say shit about FA men, I just point to this sub and say no its not just a male thing. Women on that sub resent women in relationships and who can easily get a date and complain about their dating advantages as much as men. Of course they also complain about men willing to be alone rather then date at their level too soooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:21 PM
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Good luck. I wish I could say as I got older, I realized it mattered less. But the truth is it seems like not being alone matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:38 AM
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The idea of improvement is based in the idea that you arent good enough. I would go to the gym 4 days a week and run 30 miles a week for almost a decade. And I ended up with a messed up shoulder from lifting and achillis tendonosis from running marathons. You know what you can do? You can realize that the best person you can be has nothing to do with what a women who wont give you the time of day thinks. You decide to be the person you want to be and love yourself. The problem is you are alone a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:16 AM
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When you aren't willing to date a man of a certain height that all thats matters. Its not that you dont fall for a guy's personality its that you wont even give him a chance if he is short unless he is the most charismatic confident guy in the room. Women seem to think abotu a guy they want to be with and they think abou this personality. Its what means the most. But for a lot of guys, the hardest part is just getting the date. So yeah a women only really cares abotu personality becasue she is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:13 AM
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You have no idea what its like to put yourslef out their in your 20's and 30's and find no success. To think back and realize how the largest source of negativity in your life is dating. That you never have any success so you have no idea what you want. To look back and realize the person you wanted to be, the person you were proud of was nto attractive to women. And to decide to be someoen else or be alone. Have you written to hundreds of women on OLD and never gotten a date. Reached out to str…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:43 PM
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Men are superficial, but most women are also superficial and will not date a man shorter then her . So when the question comes are women superficial the answer in my mind is yes, and if you ask if men are superficial my answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:37 PM
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This is how men experience the world. It makes no sense to us too. But we are forced to accept the world as we experience it and decide how to respond. We are still responsible for our choices but this is our lived in experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:35 PM
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How long does he have to put himself out there for you to think he doenst deserve to be alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:23 PM
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I always laugh at stuff like this becasue women say they dont care about looks. And I say as a 5'3 asian guy I find a very different story. And then people will say I dont count. Then women will say yeah of course women want a guy at least as tall as them. And if you call them out suddenly I am forcing women to be with someoen they arent attracted to. When all I am trying to say is women are superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:06 PM
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I get being good looking enough is part of it, but dont you feel like shit lying to someone? To me its not because I was attractive enough, but its that you have the moral flexibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:49 PM
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If most men could date and still be moral, then they would. The thing is you are asking many men to be alone. To not just not have sex but not have a family or experience love. So its hard for me to judge to harshly men who play in the grey area. And this is as a man who has chosen morality over love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:46 PM
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yeah i am special huh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:50 PM
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To know what is working you actually have to have success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:39 PM
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After approaching women hundreds of rejections online and speed dating; I can tell you its not the same. When you run a marathon every step takes you closer to your goal objectively, while every time you try to get a date and fail, you start to realize how the more you try the mor impossible the goal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:27 PM
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just put one foot in front of the other and you eventually get there. IT just takes some 3 hours and others 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:44 PM
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Long distance running and dating had a lot of parallels to me. When you start out running you try to push yourself. You meet people who you train harder then. Who you train longer then but they run so much faster. You try to ignore the pain but eventually though you start to get injured. At first its not too bad but they build up. Then you get your first major injury and you have to stop because pushing forward does more harm then good. Eventually you realize that the need to push yourself is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:50 PM
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The average guy here has a harder time dating then the average women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:18 PM
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Man it has not been that way in my experience. Hell I have been gnored by friends introduced me to theri friends. Honestly it kinda pisses me off but evidently having a friend of a friend ignoreme when introduced makes me entitled. I had a friend even apologize by email to me once for the friend of a friends behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:14 PM
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Yeah me too. But a lot of people go through a lot of rejection and never have any success. You ever work hard for years and years trying to be the best version of yourself only to find out that the things that were important to you were either not relevant or not important to women? You ever have to push your morality to its edge, and choose to like yourself or like your life? If you havnt you should be happy and thankful that you are fortunate to not have had to. Harder you work the more you fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:44 AM
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I dunno, 5'6 isnt that short. Your still taller then most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:38 AM
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You know it's weird. When you are young you see unhappy grownups. You see them bitter, angry, endlessly nostalgic wishing they were young again. When you're young it never makes any sense but as you get older, you start realizing the things that people tell you but you have to experience to understand. Why they seem to be choosing to be unhappy and stop living.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:37 AM
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Just shave it. This is just a peek into what its liek to get older. It sucks but better to accept aging gracefuly rather then let it hold yo uback from living our life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:00 PM
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I spent more then eating alright and running 35 miles a week. Still never got a date. Yeah I think I would trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:57 PM
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I think its dumb when guys say that, but there are plenty of women who want a tall guy and not just a guy taller then them. God knows as a 5'3" guy women my dating pool is smaller then just women who are shorter then me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:56 PM
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as a 5"3' asian guy All I got from trying to be in shape is a bad achilles, messed up back, and a fucked up shoulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:54 PM
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I did speed datign a bunch of times and I realzied I enjoyed talking to the other guys more then the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:52 PM
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Women are doing the best they can. They arent evil. But the ones I know dont really give a shit about your problems but they dont really expect you to give a shit about theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:51 PM
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I f you say here it sucks because women care about height and rarely want to date someoen who is shorter then them; people here say its wrong to force women to date men they arent attracted to. Or if a guy here says its hard approaching women all the time to only get ignored; women will say youa rent entitled to a women's attention. Its like a man cant have negative experiences with dating with out it somehow being interpreted as us saying women should be force to be with men they dont want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:48 PM
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And if men don’t think a women should be president and refuse to vot for them that’s their right too. Doesn’t make it right. Not saying women should date other races. I’m saying gender shouldn’t matter when it comes to the presidency and we should realize people have more to offer then what our instincts tell us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:32 PM
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You know if these men had 1 postive women in their life, they would just be sad and lonley ; not angry. COuld be a teacher or a sister or coworker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:04 PM
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Why would you say I bend toward not being a good person? There is a venn diagram between what you want to be and what others want. If you are very lucky you work on the things that overlap and you find someone. The problem is when you do the things that overlap and you still find yourself alone. Thats when the real difficult decisions have to be made. Thats when the introspection really starts. You live a very fortunate life if you discover otherwise. You should be thankful that being the best v…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:58 PM
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Its what happens when you have a group of young men who cant get married and have kids. They will often latch onto any ideaology /group /political/religous or whatever that tells them it isnt their fault and gives them the only path to happiness. II dunno at the end of the day why would an army completely loose when they are supposedly defending thier family. Sons and fathers defending thier mothers, wives and daughters. What can be stronger and to me the answer is that on one side its men who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:57 PM
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Yeah probably
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:50 PM
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Maybe it is irrational but there is peace for me in caring for someone and knowing that they are happy even if it is without me. Maybe its the possessiveness that makes someone more uncomfortable. The need for someone else to make you happy instead of the joy of seeing someone you care about be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:29 AM
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Or if you cared about someone enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:03 AM
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Sounds to me like you should just be happy that you are lucky enough to have found someone. But you have never been alone like I have, so you wouldnt understand. No one deserves love. They get it or dont like friendship, but no one can deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:19 AM
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Its one thing to not do what you emotions tell you, its another to not respect and not listen to what they are telling you. Thats is a path that will lead you to unahppiness and self loathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:50 AM
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Last I checked they dont let you join without telling everyone your username on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:37 AM
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my sister lost a lot of weight. For a year she did that thing where they deliver food and she worked out everyday. Probably ran like 25 miles a week and lifted with a personal trainer. At the end of that she was still overweight so she did this thing where she would fast for a week then spend 2 weeks working out to try to keep the weight of then repeat. She lost some weigth doing that but still technically overweight. Sher ended up losin genough weigth to get a guy though and before her wedding …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:31 AM
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No its mostly genetic. Like I am eatign okay and doing about 5/6 hours of cardio a week and lifting. Still technically overweight. Although everyone else in my family is really overweight and I am probably the first of about 10 cousins and 10 aunts and uncles to get to 40 and not need high blood pressure medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:25 AM
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Yeah, I remember when I used to think this. Man was I wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:24 AM
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You know 90 percent of overweight people will always be overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:21 AM
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That success is only a function of effort. And that people fail at dating because they dont try hard enough or they completely lack self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:53 AM
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Obviously you have good intentions, but this just feels like it is enforcing the idea that you only have value if someone loves you. I always say no women who doesnt even take the time to get to know you can possibly judge your value as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:51 AM
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I liked to buy garlic bread then put some eggplant, tomoto slices, cheese and tomato sauce on . Then bake it. Not sure if its an open face eggplant sandwhich or a pizza with eggplant toppping., Also Im in my fourties and never gone a date before sooo.. I guess I do both. Also you gotta pre cook the eggplant and tomato. Usually I just bake those first with a little olive oil, salt and garlic. Man I wish I knew what it felt liek to be loved and love. Also mushrooms arent a bad addition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:45 AM
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I hate people like you because you have no idea what its like to really work hard for a long period of time to date and fail. Guys like you what? Spent a few years in the gym, got your first GF in your early twenties talking asbout how hard you worked on yourself. You have no idea what its like to work out until your body drops. To Have a lare social circle but still fail time and time with women. To read books and approach women. To Realize that you ahve to choose between the person you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:42 AM
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As a man I agree and think the world would be better if more women like you were around. I cannot understand why it is in men's best interest to tell women to have less sex. IRL I have only seen one guy care about n count in the slightest and he said to me right now the women you will marry is fucking another guy. And in my mind I was like so? And this was a guy who seemingly had a fair amount of casual sex including with women who completely ignored me. Jokes on him though Im in my fourties and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:37 AM
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Women who think criticism of women is equal to blame and talkign about bad female judgement in men is telling them they should date people they are not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:32 AM
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I got banned for suggesting the afghanistan were an example of an army of incels and how they defeated the afghanistan army because their religion was the only chance they had to feel pride and get married. Where unlike their opnents they were more willing to die because they had less to live for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:30 AM
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that I was just unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:00 AM
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Honestly the only person who said that and I believed was here. She then went on to say it size queens most wostly relegated to overweight women soo. She was so unflinching cruel sayign things like fo course women dont want to date out of their race because they want kids that look like them; i couldnt deny that she believed what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 08:10 PM
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They're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 08:07 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if an entire generation of men like me learned how unattractive they were through online dating. Then told themself that irl would be different and were proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:47 PM
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This is less about fisherman understand fish and more that fishermen understand other fishermen. When you see these situations what your gender is, dictates what you understand better. So its not so much men who succeed understand owomen better; it's that men understand other men better then women. Justifications of why is just air At then end of the day how a guy acts is better understood by other men and how to act like guys who succeed is better understood by other men. SO when men say act li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:02 PM
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All options are a catch 22 at this point. Hate myself or hate my life. Choose 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:24 PM
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Not in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:10 AM
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I wouldnt want to date anyone who wanted to date me becuase of where I am from and I lack the dating experience to tell if a women was or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:06 AM
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Trying to date was my greatest motivator but my failure at it has become my greatest demotivator.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:33 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how different of a person I had a dating life. Liek what would I think about. What would I wish for. It feels like its n the background always. In my fantasies , in my fear. Pat present and future. My greatest source of hope and greatest source of negativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:11 PM
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Because young people are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:08 PM
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There was a comedian Godfrey who would prbably do really well if he stopped talkign about race. He was asked once why is everything about race. And his answer is yeah, that is the question. Why is everything about race.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:35 PM
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I would liek to say that someone who worked out half as much as me, but experience has told me that aint true as a 5'3" asian male.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:32 PM
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As a guy who cant get sex nr a relationship; getting sex would at least be a sign of progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:31 PM
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It doesn’t for everyone but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:05 AM
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Women say that being able to have sex isnt that great of a privledge. I agree to a point. If a guy doesnt show you any affection or kindness but is willing to have sex with you , thats not an amazing thing to be able to have. But if a guy flirts with you, makes you feel special and has sex with you; but doesn't call you in the morning because you werent really special to him; well men literally pay a lot of money to women for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:53 AM
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Man, I dont think you have spent much time with women if you dont realize women rank themselves way more then men do. IN women dominated workplaces women work very hard to put everyone in their place in a hierarchy way more then men who just want to get stuff done. And this doesnt have to be in hyper competitive environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:15 AM
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Hate breeds extremism. YOur hate, their hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:09 AM
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There was that movie made based on the story iliza shlezinger told Where she dates a to her, unattractive but succesful nice guy becuase he says his mom has cancer. According to her story he lies about his education and the house he owns and his mom having cancer. Although on pressing she reveals that she isnt really sure if he actually lied about his mother having cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 11:53 PM
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its that or mgtow or involuntary celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:18 AM
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Yes but it doesn’t exist for a lot of men. And you are asking men to accept being alone or having someone and not being alone. And those who choose to be alone are told they are not worthy of love by both red and blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:54 AM
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Probably they had shitty parents. I’m thinking they acknowledge to the kid he had shorty parents. It’s no excuse but acknowledging his situation goes a long way . The old it’s not your fault Robbin Williams speech. Condoning an action and acknowledging the roots of a problem are 2 separate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:41 AM
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I agree, either accept love is blue pill or believe it doesnt truly exist. At least for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:36 PM
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On skimming it it is interesting. WOmen seem to argue its to absolve men from immoral actions. As if born of anger and resentment men became asshles then invented the redpill as a reason to excuse their actions. It seems to me though it was the understanding and philosophy that men seek out first. Then the actions came as a response. I guess the question that comes next is what came first the chicken or the egg for most men. The act or the beliefs. Not that blue pillers would believe that the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:35 PM
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I guess but most men became red pill. They started as a blue pill. They have to acknowledge that there is a reason they changed. People dont like to change; they are forced to by external pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:14 PM
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I wonder if women realize that most men would accept a blue pill life if it was able to get them what they wanted in a women. That men have to adapt to find success. For some that means hitting the gym. For a lot of men that's not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:04 PM
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better then a warp bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:33 AM
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I mean I try to go into every interaction with no expectations and still I am disappointed. Even NPC's will look you in the eye and answer questions with more then one word answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:31 AM
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So there was a saying I heard that went; the only thing you can control is the people you spend your time with. As I got older I realized how important it was to surround yourself with generally positive people that feel like accept you and make you feel liek they want you around. People you arent afraid to be yourself around. You really dont want to be around a lot of people who complain abotu their lives and the people in it. You want people to support you in the things you are trying to do. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:07 AM
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Maybe I am wrong but this seems like a loud minority of guys who care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:02 AM
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Friend told me about a court case where the guy claimed another man raped him while he was passed out drunk and when he went to confront the man he proceeded to beat him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:00 AM
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You can only do that so many times before you realize that trying causes more suffering then not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:13 AM
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As someone who has tried to live their life. Do things that they enjoy and surround themselves with good positive people; I realized how shallow that life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:54 AM
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Deal with it? Thats somethign a shitty person says about the shitty things they do instead of just admitting its shitty. I think the standard response to taht You're not wrong, you're just an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:35 AM
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I like to imagine he thinks I am having a lot of meaningless sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:16 AM
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No but the ones who are, are not the type you are talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:11 AM
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They are strangers. They are equal in a sense they are both humans equally capable of kindness and cruelty. They are equal in terms of threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:07 AM
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I have no basis for this but I basically think of this as chads versus incels and the incels won. I kept wondering what type of army could kill a group of men defending their wives, daghters mothers and homes? In the end a bunch of religious zealots found a bunch of guys rejected by society. Desperate for love and dignity, religous guys told them they were victims and told them to reclaim what they deserved. The chads all have families and loved ones. Women they care about. Futures even. Now who…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:04 AM
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All unattractive men. Lets not pretend like all men are treated equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:57 PM
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As someone who has never dated or had a relationship; it weird to get older and even weirder for people to ask me if I have kids and if Im divorced. I'm gonna take it as a compliment. I was at a get together and one guy I hadnt seen in a few years asked me if I had gotten married and divorced in the time I had seen him last.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:55 PM
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Happier then she was single without a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:48 PM
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old an no
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:25 PM
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I mean she got what she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:25 PM
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I think they just lie out of obliviousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:18 PM
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I dunno, my sister did that. the marriage isnt so great but she has a kid so shes not really complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:09 PM
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despite dating being the most negative thing I chose to actively try to do in my life; I still think about it. Or more precisely I think of actually having a family and kids but my mind automatically follows to my failures dating. Added is the fact that because of injuries I am much more out of shape and my hairline is gone. So objectively I am worse off now. But I heard my niece say I love you her dad as she left for school and it just makes me wonder all the same. I ran a few weeks ago up a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:00 AM
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Yeah, I think I was like 11 when I watched this movie and it kinda fucked me up. Thought it was your typical 80's sex comedy. Man was I wrong. Most surprising ending since the sixth sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:02 AM
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Yeah, I remember wondering why she doesn't look guilty or surprised. Instead she looks at him with pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 12:05 AM
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Last American Virgin Guy has a thing for a girl but she dates his bestfriend. Besfriend gets her pregnant and ditches her. He gets money to help her pay for an abortion and they start dating. Then on her birthday I think he finds them together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiosE6xNW0Y Im still pissed about this scene even today.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 12:00 AM
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Shits been happneing for a long time and the news only cares now? IT's one thing to Report what is happening but the moral indignation is just an attempt to grab ratings at the expense of well the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:47 PM
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This always bugs me because when you say women arnet attracted to short guys; guys arent sayign they should have to sleep with short guys IT just means women are shallow about height. Somehow sayign women dont like dating guys shorter then them for the most part is the same as tryign to force women to have sex with short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:31 PM
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Pissing of someone for more then a decade over BS is les improtant to me then being right about BS
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:06 PM
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Moderate for what? for people who have no respect for them? Who reject them? You wold think if people cared about incels they would be more accepting of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 09:47 PM
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They are not wholesome but they are all men have. And in no positive places on the internet will you find someone saying failure at dating is not a reflection of your worth. The only people they can go to is each other and they are only going to listen to each other; because they are the only ones who respect them despite knowing their failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 09:12 PM
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Incel communities are one of the few communities that will tell a guy he has value. Anywhere else s guy is told everything in his life he has done is invalid , and worthless. That he never truly tried in dating. No matter how much you argue about how hard you work they will move the goal post. Incel Communities are one of the only places that will say a women’s willingness to date you is not a reflection of your worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 08:50 PM
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My cousin is still pissed off at me for something I said over a decade ago ... but I keep wanting to say; but I was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 08:45 PM
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The funny thing is, women dont realize how many guys they reject. The women who rejected me new none of these things and I wasnt overweight. I got rejected online and in person. Mostly by just ignoreing me and never getting to know me. And then they wonder why the men left who do get a chanve. Who the women do get to know dont fit the bill. Do women even realize how many men they are filtering out? Because of race or height.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:44 PM
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This is like blaming your boyfriend for something your friends boyfriend did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:40 PM
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I think there are plenty of people who have worked on themselves and were themselves and still failed. But of course people here will just call them out as being liars instead of just acceptign the fact that datign isnt guaranteed for everyone no matter how much effort you put forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:38 PM
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Most guys first inclination when they get a hot girl isnt to show her off to his friends and put a picture on social media. Hell many guys complain about being with a really attractive girl because of how much attention she gets from guys hitting on her and dealing with her orbiters. Is it nice to have a hot girl and have your friends give you a high five. Sure. But IM sure he would rather be at home fucking her. I honestly dont think unattractive guys issue with dating unattractive women has an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:33 PM
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Women don’t just want a date they want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:32 AM
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I read somewhere where a women said less attractive guys are too insecure to date less attractive women. First that makes no sense. And secondly is this projecting? Like are there men some women want to date but they are too insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:24 AM
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Its a vicious pattern for some. You build yourself up, feel good about yourself but the moment you start to try to date you realize how meaningless it is. You just keep thinking about how negative dating is. How it is just a black hole of happiness that draws all your confidence. How it is all this wasted mental and physical effort. How you have put so much time and effort and emotion into it; only to get nothing out of it but more negativity. And the world just accepts that this is the way it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:10 AM
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You think women who reject short guys tell them why ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:58 AM
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OLD is where men learn they are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:16 AM
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I'd rather be ignored online then irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:15 AM
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Hey high five, Ive probably messaged around the same number people and never met anyone in person and aroudn the same age. Hopefully you were smarter then me and didnt go down the speed dating rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:11 AM
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Chris rock has that one joke about his wife not letting him around a friend of hers. A guy meats a great attached girl and thinks I want a women liek that. A girl meets a great attached guy she thinks I want him. He also made the joke that his wife was right, be cause he would have fucked her. Less funny now seeing as he did in fact cheat on his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:37 AM
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i used t experiemtn with random questions. I think one was what's your favorite dinosaur?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:50 PM
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I see women approach and talk to attractive guys al the time. I see men actually being friends with women. ALthough usually the people involved are not in their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:35 PM
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Yeah but when peopel complain about their height race and jawline dont matter; they get mocked for being insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:33 PM
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OLD was where i learned I was below average no matter how much I worked out. Back when I did online dating, my informal information was that basically most men got dates within 50 messages. If they found any success at all. In general I foudn if you are attracted to conventional lookign women (See not fat) and short, non white, or fat; you will have a hard time. IF you are 2 of the 3 then you should probably just give up. I always find it funny when people say I should try online dating. As if T…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:19 PM
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it’s looks.And men will learn without being told and be difficult to dissuade that women Are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:03 AM
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Its weird because I think attractive people dont realize unattractive people live in another world. I went running with a friend of mine and women would all look at him and return his smile. He literally goes through life with women smiling at him. I used to run a lot with a friend of mine. She ended up running with another friend of mine in the same place we alway run. She remarked how weird it was because all these women were staring at my friend and she thought it was weird running with a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:33 PM
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I think it is reductive to say rejection is always explicit. I have had too many times where I was completely ignored on approach in social situations where I knew that the person was afraid if they showed me basic human respect, I migth misinterpret it as interest. And yes anger can be an issue but often this happens in a public place surrounded by mutual friends. Its not fun being introduced by a mutual friend only to have that person ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:29 PM
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To me I am mre thinking abotu women who will basically ignore me in normal situations but be willing to talk to my better lookign friend. AS if given a basic amount of human kindness I will fall in love. And its better to be rude to me then talk to me because I am not good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:25 PM
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So the women don;t think their short term guys are more attractive but outside observers do. SO when a omwn says she didnt find the guy she liked to be more attractive she is telling the truth, but objectively he is more attractive. Add to that women got more matches then men. So objectively short term guys are more attractive and date way more then most of the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 08:54 PM
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But for how long?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:59 PM
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Average human beings or average women? You go on foreveralone women and they are not jelous of men they are jelous of other women's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:14 AM
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Was the boyfriend wrong though? I only watched the movie and he should have just sjut up and let her do her own thing, but she ended up leaving the job for the same reasons he said if I remember correctly. I was wacthing a joe rogan interview with jim breur and he was recounting how horrible SNL was. And his wife who cared nothing for show business said; why dont you just quit? And he was angry but he knew she was sooo right. Was he not nice, or was he telling her the unvarnished truth that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:49 PM
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I was watching some clips on The devils wears prada. I assumed that most of the commenters were women. The thing abotu everyone in this move is that for the most part no one is nice. Everyone is not just uncaring, they are mean, condescending and at time (however probably not neeldessly) cruel. Yet the women talked and complimented these characters as if they were good people. For a lot of women I sense that being nice is seen as weakness or manipulation. Powerful women have the luxury of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:38 PM
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The thing about listening, you ust first feel heard. The person saying the thing must be someone the person trusts. IF someone is telling someone else they are "wrong to feel" what they are feeling then that person will probably not listen to anything else the person is sayong. You really have no contol over what ou feel. Only how you deal with what you feel or interacting with things that make you feel a certain way. Anyone who has truly tried to control strong feelings knows they have to ackno…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:20 PM
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The thing is like 90 percent of overweight people will always be over weight. Being overweight is pretty much a fact as much as telling someone who is deeply depressed to just snap out of it. And justliek the incel who cant get a date, the overweight women needs to be told they still have value. Or else they will turn to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:16 PM
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I don’t even think women should change who they are attracted. I just think they need to , for the sake of men admit that good men will fail at dating for reasons outside of their control and not because of their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:52 PM
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I mean the problems are not going to go away. They will only get worse. The hate will only grow. But I understand how someone wouldnt care abotu something if it doesn't affect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 04:33 AM
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I dont know how it is for women. I only know as a man how it is to approach and ask out a women you are not attraced to. To realize it is that or be alone. I will tell you it feels like the most selfish lie . It feels like trying to force yourself to like a song.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 04:31 AM
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Maybe you should rexamine your frindships. The people in your life who have fallen off, who you dont talk to. Maybe you should reexamine what you talk about. You may not be aware of what people are keeping from you. You may not be aware of people who spend time with other people more like them, or whose lives are more similar. I have friendships. People who want me around. That is because I know what I can and can't talk about. I had a friend whose son came out to her on the phone. He was 25. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:09 AM
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As you get older friends loose meaning. People have their wives and kids and themselves to take care of. Adults dont talk abotu problems. Not really. They seek out other people with the same problems or they lok for people who put them in positive mind space. There is no support from friends for a man who is alone. Not from friends. Which is what UI was arguing. I am not sure if you agreeing with me or still telling a man who has the problem he must be an asshole. Have you never talked about a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:40 AM
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You cant tell men to lower their standards any more then you can tell women. People cant control what they are attracted to and in the current society, more and more men will be alone and single. And unless people can address this problem in a positive way that still gives men value; there will be more hate. Women dont need men anymore. Not liek they used to. More men will be single. This problem will grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 01:34 AM
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If you dont take an attempt to acknowledge the feeling of a group of people. If you minimize. You shouldnt be suprised when they grow angry. But of course, its up to the individual to care about others and try to make the world a better place. To create a world without hate. I understand if it doesnt affect you, that you wouldnt care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 01:05 AM
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See this is the crux of the problem. I never said there arent non shallow women. But I am saying that not all men will find love. And these men are going to have a hard time for a lot of thiings out of their control. I am no tryin in anyway to attack women; I am trying to support men. I dont disagree with anything you say. But if you are going to tell me that a 6 foot white guy is going to have as easy of a time finding love as a 5'3 asian guy. Women are as flawed as men when it comes to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 12:58 AM
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Because men take romantic failure personally and either they get very sad or very angry. If women admitted that at times it is unfair, it would do a lot to deal with the shame and stigma of failingin dating. IF you paint faminists as all ugly lesbians ; it shouldnt be a surprise that feminists would be angry. If you paint incels as ugly weak losers; it shouldnt be suprised that these men will foster a toxic space. Its not a women thing. It;s a society thing and if women as a par of society dontt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 12:20 AM
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I wish there was a movemen among men and women that said men are not their job nor is their success with dating based solely on things they can control nor is it a judement on their character. The problem with creating a more positive male movement, women would have to agree that often times, people in their gender are not attracted to good men for shallow reasons. The issue with that is somehow women will conflate that to mean that women shoudl date men they are not attracted to. Which is untru…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:47 PM
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yes, thats why he never talks about it and gets no support from his problems. Becasue , especially as you get older, no one cares and noe one wants to hear about it. Thats why if he has these problems he has to go online to even ave a conversation about the difficulty of being trying so hard and yet failing so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:05 PM
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Your wrong about the nice incel. No one respects his problem or wants to talk about his problem. They will give advice but in the end everyone will basically insinuate through their advice you deserve to be alone. Because in essence what they say you do is either things yu have done that they dont know , tried but done badly despite your best efforts or a list of your flaws. There is no place for an incel to be told outside of incel circles that he has value and dating is not a measure of that v…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:33 PM
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No I mean they werent intersets in me when I was in better places mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:30 AM
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Well I just ran 3 miles and did a chest and back workout . Believe me , the women I met while running marathons didn’t care how healthy I was
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:05 AM
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Why? Friends work hobbies physical health? The longer you live the more shallow you realize these things are? I saw an actress say once about having a kid. The good thing is it takes suicide completely off the table. But don’t worry. I’m not going to claim I’m not 4 inches taller then I really Am on my online Datong profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:26 AM
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It is selfish, but when you contemplate suicide daily versus lying to get a date. When you contemplate murder overe lying to get a date. Murder of yourself. Well everyone makes that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:39 PM
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I dont know. But how many stories do you hear about a guy lying to get with a girl or a girl not finding him all that attractive but years later they are still together. Its one thing to have few options then get the person you really want through manipulation. But its different to have no one then having to bend your morales once twice or three times to have a chance at knowing what love and family is. All you have to do is win once. Lie once. Once for love and once ofr family. And if they leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:33 PM
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A tainted love and family or no love or family at all? I have a friend and he was married and he was cheated on. He met another women who was married and he got her to cheat on him and eventually they are together now. I wonder how he can do that, but I never ask. But I look at him and his current girlfriend and he seems happy. His girlfriend who is 10 years younger then him and looks closer to 15 years younger then him just threw him a borthday party. And i think even if it didnt last. Even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:07 PM
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What about love or family? Hell even your career?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:01 PM
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I never suceeded at dating. I never had a relationship. I tried my best at self improvement. I am a flawed person and there are a lot fo things I believe I should improve and that would also make me a more attractive partner. Thats the easy part. But when you deal with most of those issues and still fail. Thats when life gets real. Thats when you are faced with adult decisions. That is where you start makinghard choices. I dont blame men who choose to lose thei rmorality. In a world where men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:53 PM
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Or you are very unhappy never having experiencing live and growing old alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:48 PM
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If you have never had to choose between hating your life and hating yourself; then you either have a very fluid morality or you have had a very privledged life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:47 PM
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IF you have no idea why one would lower your self to not be alone you have lived a very privledged life. I have a friend who is probably one of the best men I have ever known. He helped everyone in his life. He isnt fat nor unemployed. He helped his sisters kids, he took care of a father and mended things with a mother who abandoned him to be with another man. Yet he is scared approaching passing 50 that there will be no one there to take care of him when he gets old. Like he was there to take c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:45 PM
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I dunno. I know a fair number fo women in their mid 40's and older. They seem to struggle getting men, especially men within a few years their age. A few friends who dont use online dating seem to struggle the most. The ones using online dating dont seem to like their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 04:09 PM
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FDS is women with options not liking their options. Fawomen is women with no options. Which has more people in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 04:04 PM
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I loved the movie too, but it was a bit on the nose about evil men taking advantage of young women and the patriarchy. I kept wanting captain america to appear at some point ot help them out. Especially at the end but that would have defeted the point of the movie; being saved by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:15 AM
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The kenyan one is super interesting. There is a tribe where they do a right of manhood which is all about taking pain. If you fail you wont be able to marry. There are other issues like the elevation they live at tends to create stronger runners. But the ceremony they put them hrough includes circumcision at the age of 15 ehre if you flinch, you get labeled a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:11 AM
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In a world where men have no value. Women with options think they deserve better and men are only worthy if they reshape themselves into what women want. Women have value and need to remember that. Men have no value and need to earn everything especially love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:46 PM
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IF that was true , then there would be more women in r/foreveralonewomen then in r/femaledatingstrategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:16 PM
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In the words of bill burr, at least your problems are taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:55 AM
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That’s not all it says. But still it is s more male positive view then red pill which tends to say men who fail in love dont deserve to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:00 AM
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I don’t feel like women are attracted to men who want to be nurtured.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:55 PM
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America in the 80’s had better action movies because they were fighting Russians who had technological parity. Now it’s all Nazi’s. Anyways who does Russia fight in their action movies ?do they too fight modern nazi’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:49 PM
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Most people find happiness by exploring life and learnign about themselves. LEarning who they are and what is important to them. There are some thing in life you have to learn through experience. You cannot be told.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:45 PM
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In a weird way mgtow and black pill are the most positive male philosophies. They are the only ones that say men are good enough and have value . That life isn’t about changing yo suit other needs not is love something people earn or deserve. In the same way some feminism validates women so does , black pill and mgtow validate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:26 PM
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You can get sex if you pay for it and honestly if you put some effort into having a social life and your looojs, no I e knows your dating life and even more so , no one cares outside of maybe your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:23 PM
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Happiness comes from experience. You can’t know the value of something unless you have lived with and without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:18 PM
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Mandatory vaccines will probably be a tax on the unvaccinated. I believe there is precedence for that in the US. No one is going to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:36 AM
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I cant think of a good solution. It's not like society will make progress in how they value men in the same way it has made progress to value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:44 AM
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AT the end of the day the average looking guy is a chad. He is top 20 percent guy. But women think he is average. They think 10's are 7's. These men you are thinking of arent aerage. You just think they are. I had a friend say she wasnt into her guy becayse of how he looked. He thought he was funny. He was still an in shape 6 foot white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:36 AM
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Didnt you see that okcupid graph that women think average looking guys arent actuall in the tip percentile of attractiveness. And he dates basic because all those women he actually matches with think they are dating down when they are really dting across. Then those women dont understand why he just sleeps with them and doesnt want a real relationship; not realizing she is dating out of her league. All the really attractive top 20% of women are chasing the top 1% thinking they are equal when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:54 PM
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The existence of battered women shelters would seem to say you are wrong. Lacking these shelters women would stay in their marriages which by your definition would then not be failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:31 PM
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IT doesnt mean you are happy. It just means you dont have a practical alternative. It's like someone having a shitty low paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:16 PM
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There was a joke I heard. You know why divorce is expensive; because its worth it. Is it overall benefit or is it the cost of breaking apart is worth more then staying together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:25 PM
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It's more if it hasnt by this time it prolly wont happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:03 PM
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The age where you made the best of yourself and lowered your standards the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:01 PM
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I can never understnand people who work out in the morning. I tried working out in the morning and I spend the day being sore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:00 PM
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Arguing either sex needs to improve will never get you anywhere. Your better off just extolling the virtues of being single if you want to be positive. Its funny because fds is all about being good enough and while red pill is all about not being good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:52 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/replicationindex.com/2020/08/12/why-do-men-report-higher-levels-of-self-esteem-than-woman/%3famp https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1340040/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:06 PM
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More women date and have sex. In what world do men want the same type if girl when compared to men. Men are attracted to and date more different type of women then men. That’s a hard truth. You really think self reported self esteem is the best way to measure self esteem? Now why would men report self esteem higher then women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:21 AM
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Do women under 40 generally think if they were guys they would be more successful in their career? Under 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:11 PM
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I think in general it is a lot rarer for men, especially not very attractive men to settle in terms looks. I think this is true because in the end the guy has to ask the women out. I think in a culture where women were primarily the ones to ask someone out. Where men dated more then women; men would care much less about looks. But in a society where one person has to ask the person out. Where one side gets explicitly rejected more. The person asking needs the initial attraction to make the cost …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:19 PM
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They can say they believe that but I would probably believe something different. REally, you thought you could do better. Sure. You still think 10 years older you could still do better; keep trying. There's the door good luck, but thanks for always initiating sex and planning that suprise birthday party for my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:14 PM
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a recent and now deleted post said that a man wanting to date but not be friends with a women means he doesnt respect her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:26 AM
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I have no idea how old you are but I find as I get older so does the age range of friends. So the idea that all women in my life exist in a world of sexual tension when many of them are much older or younger seems odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:20 PM
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I dunno man. A person in a relationship going to an opposite sex friend who is single for emotional support. No bueno.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 10:28 PM
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Sometimes I wonder about women who complain guys only want to date them and not be friends. Do they know how to actually be a good friend with a guy. Because for most guys it doesn’t include emotional support and if your not having sex it obviously does not include physical intanacy. I think these women are just shitty friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:54 PM
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Petsonally if you are in the same social circle is given the wrong idea so wrong. Obviously it can be too much but if a guy likes a girl he should ask he out. That is what should happen. If you are in the same social circle the chance of the guybreacting poorly to a rejection seems pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:44 PM
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What are you taking about? If an attractive women is complimenting me I assume she is selling me something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:41 PM
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I can never understand why women thinking wanting to date a girl means a guy respects them less then wanting to be friends with a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:20 AM
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I think reward is the wrong word. I think the right way to say is spoiling superficialy attractive men, then are suprise when he has no depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:33 PM
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Every time I hear this all I think is all I have said and done and couldn’t get a date. Or maybe I’m just ugly so nothing I do even matters. Why can’t you accept that a lot of men are trying their best are still not enough. That they do everything you ask and still get nowhere. That maybe the reason men check out while women want more is because whatvwomen want is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:03 PM
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For me personally, while I have never done it; the only reason I see it as an option is if the current tactics aren't working. Like just walking up and talking to women tends to get me ignored. If I pushed maybe I would get a different outcome. Assuming of course it was in a safe environment where socialization is expected. Also from a logical POV women who are naturally nice and friendly will tend to probably already be in a relationship. Personally I agree though. Why spend your time with some…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:07 PM
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I have seen some women say that when they do this it is a test. To see if they are really interested. Further they say that women like them are better because unlike friendly women that are nice to everyone, if you get a women who is difficult to liek you they will care abotu you more deeply because their attention is given to less people. Personally I dont know why you spend time interacting with anyone who was rude or disinterested, but I am no women so I have no idea what is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:55 PM
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That was not my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:45 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5VVrsnpzo I mis remembered stuff. She wanted the guy to be at least 5'10" - 6"2' with hair. She took out things like dependable, and ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:59 AM
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I hear this a lot, but I honestly wonder if the people saying this have ever tried to go out flirt, pursue, and ask out someone they had no physical attraction to. I am in no way saying that if you fat , it is dumb to expect to date an attractive girl. But attraction is something you can’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:51 AM
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I have been trying OLD without success since the early 2000's. It was never good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:41 PM
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What are men good for to today's women? Money/ secutiry/family. No not really. So what about love? Is it really love or someoen who looks good on instagram and to their friends. Someone tall, in shape, with a good job andis social. There was a ted talk where a women talked about online dating and she wrote a long list of things she wanted. Then she wittled it down. What stayed? At least 6 foot and jewish. What got pruned; things like kindness and honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:30 PM
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I ran 20 miels this week and lifted 3X. And I can't say I had a good experience wiht therapy .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:26 PM
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