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Are you actually retarded? I believe cheating is wrong and dating someone who cheated for you is illogical. This is exactly what I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:03 AM
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And honestly that's the sad thing about this sub sometimes, I really think you're disagreeing with me just because I'm a man. nonsense victim complex Um you definetly aren't reading what I said because I believe cheating is wrong and dating someone who cheated for you is illogical. I'm arguing against it by using her logic of trading whenever you find someone new. I think that would destroy love. Yes I read all of that and disagreed with it. Your "logic" is faulty. but love is commitment to a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:56 PM
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Well then you're wrong. My boyfriend does not meet any women he'd love more than me (that would also love him back/fuck him). If he did he'd leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 08:35 AM
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Is it not obvious to you that a relationship (and especially a marriage) is based on more than just attractiveness? My boyfriend meets women he finds more attractive than me, but he does not meet women he LOVES more than me. If he did he would leave me. Men/women stop themselves from sleeping with the most attractive person in their vicinity because they value their partner's love more than a quick lay (even if the lay is more attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 01:32 PM
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he "could" have gotten a woman younger than me. maybe im projecting my own hypergamy or maybe my INTP neuroticism lol but the idea that if I had access to peak SMV men I would inexplicably chose a less attractive man is so foreign to me. I honestly cannot imagine what would propel a man who can fuck young women to then choose an older woman. and I mean you said yourself that without the stigma all men would choose young wives, and yet yours didnt. Im not saying your wrong, I think youre probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:31 AM
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he is not less attractive than any of the other men i was ever with at all, this is just some weird TRP fiction I would have thought its a pretty reasonable conclusion. If all men are chasing young women then the man who cant get a young woman and marries a woman in her thirties is probably less attractive than the man who can get young women (ie the men who got you when you were a young woman). Dyou think all this is because women find men more attractive as they age. As in the men I can get in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:04 AM
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Im not trying to be offensive at all Im genuinely curious. All this implies that youll attract the most attractive men in your early twenties. As a woman who met her husband in her thirties did it ever bother you that the he was (presumably) less attractive than the men you previously dated? Did you ever worry he still pined for the younger women he got to fuck in his youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:28 AM
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So if that's masculinity and OP is searching for a feminine (non masculine) woman hes searching for an irrisponsible, unmotivated, irrational, weak, cowardly, dependent, lazy, incompetent, undisciplined swine?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:24 PM
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That anecdote tells me nothing other than the fact u obviously spotted an obvious tranny. " I figure it out whether I’m told or not." How hard is it to understand that 99.99/100 times u hadn't figured it out you werent told at all. Also no ones disputing that 8/10 trannies r obvious trannies....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 08:31 PM
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Ive no doubt you clocked some random tranny somewhere. Youre right this was a long time ago, a time when being a tranny was a scandal. It was quite literally a scandal when a tabloid outed Caroline Cossey, her husband left her and she struggled to find work. Its easy to look at someone u know is a tranny and tell urself u woulda figured it out anyway even if u werent told.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:25 PM
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Yup, the casting agents, directors and millions of movie viewers couldnt tell anything but a random man on the internet says he can tell so Im gonna believe him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:58 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:03 PM
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My point still stands. I could point to a regular woman and youd tell me theres something off about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 02:41 PM
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Source on her being intersex cuz this is the first im hearing of it. Also this is a pointless experiment because I could show you a picture of a biological woman and you will (earnestly im sure) claim you can tell something vaguely "weird" about her that u "cant pin point to me but its definitely there." No one I show you will convince you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 02:25 PM
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Caroline Cossey. No one blinked an eye when she was a Bond girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:32 PM
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So youd be happy with your husband fucking a woman more attractive than you providing its in a threesome? How are you not overcome with fears of him abandoning you for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:54 PM
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Id be interested in how the "trapping" thing would be handled. If the state legally recognizes a transexual as a female it'd be hard to argue their passing as female is any kind of deception. But to my knowledge Australia's gender recognition is a bit more complex where certain documents are handled by the Australian government while others are matters of local government.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:10 PM
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Men are being included in nearly everything that pretains to women. They're dominating female sports, wearing feminine makeup and dressing in feminine clothes. Now they're taking off the feminine logo on pads so that they can have a part of something that's a uniquely biological part of a women: menstruation. It bares noting that it's Male-to-Females wearing makeup, feminine clothes and entering womens sports whilsts its Female-to-Males using these products. If u refer to MtFs as men youd probab…
/r/RedPillWomen25/10/19 06:20 PM
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You're missing the point entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 12:10 PM
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In high school people form mixed gender groups of friends, from which relationships emerge. If a 21 yo wanted to replicate this with 16 yos theyd have to socialize with 16 yo boys too, other wise it would literally just be perceived as a creepy old guy waiting for girls outside the school gates. This was my exact point. Relationships usually form out of mixed gender intra/inter group socializing. 21 yo men don't find themselves forming relationships with 16 yo girls because they'd never enter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 11:24 AM
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The first link you provided goes against your point. Men have more leisure time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:42 AM
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Oh sure. Tons of the guys I knew didn't have gfs either, but the exact same could be said for tons of the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 12:39 AM
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I cannot imagine what a high school like that would even look like. High school men not dating is so distant from any reality ive experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 11:51 PM
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Don't think it's a mistake so much as most 21 yo men find 16 yo boys annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 11:50 PM
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I feel like we've had a very similar conversation before about average age gaps and what not. All I can say is this is just very foreign to what I perceive in my part of Western Europe. The men around me in college aren't looking to date girls still in school, they may date girls a few yrs younger but its more like 21's about to graduate with 18 yo freshmen at most. Similarly girls in my high school usually dated only a few yrs older at most. The few 16 yos dating 21 yos with cars and flats were…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 10:38 AM
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You seem to believe that most boys in high school aren't dating but most girls are and that these girls are apparently dating the "lower class" men who still hang around in the local social scene. Do you genuinely believe that most women dated low life losers in their teens? Explain to me exactly why you think having an active social life in your local community makes you lower class?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 10:15 AM
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First of all you weren't trying to "be a good person" lol you were trying to get yourself laid, dont frame satisfying your own desires as some sort of ethical position. "Complain to the police" and say what? A guy spoke to me in a club? You can't be serious? Chatting up a girl in a club isn't a crime and never will be. "I can't change that". Yes you can. Stop the self pity, find out why people dislike you and suppress that quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 10:09 AM
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Go to bars/clubs and hit on every woman possible. Improve your ability to read people and use that to improve your flirting. Who gives a shit if women are creeped out?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 09:09 AM
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there is literally nothing wrong with what she's doing lmao. If she wants to be your forever gf then sure. Women who sacrifice their own imperative for the male imperative have no self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:31 PM
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who cares. She does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:10 PM
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Yes, and emphasis on "gf" not "wife" material.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:58 AM
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i mean... i think they did... wasnt that what everyone was criticising them for even just 10 yrs ago
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 12:31 AM
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dont wanna barrage u with q's but ur the only one that answered seriously. When you use the term "AGP" is that just a flippant remark or do u actually care about any typological distinctions between trannies
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 12:01 AM
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Why does readin about random men gettin trapped irritate you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 11:55 PM
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I always kinda assumed that when you said you date "men who originate from the hajnal line" (paraphrasing) that you meant men from near the hajnal line, i.e. Poland, the baltics, czechoslovakia etc. It's only now occurred to me that you might have meant men who originating from the part of Europe enclosed by the hajnal line, i.e. Germany, UK, France etc. Which one did you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:43 PM
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Okay wtf does this have to do with my simply correction?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:38 PM
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That is literally the polar opposite of reality. Look up the stats, theyve been qouted herename frequently, men remarry more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 02:12 PM
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Why 24 months exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 04:17 PM
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So basically a male friend in a female body.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 09:11 AM
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Ireland had a referendum recently, abortion is no longer illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:33 PM
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except it doesnt happen "often"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:42 PM
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Why the obsession with making a line that separates beauty from person. Because you're presenting this "beauty is apart of a person" as some sort of gotcha with relation to how men love women differently than vice versa. When in reality both sexes love their partner because of what that partner can do for them, be it protect/provide for them or illicit sexual arousal in them. The scales are already even "since the things that a [wo]man can do for a... [man] can easily exist outside of that speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:02 PM
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I never said that she was unique beauty is part of a person and can't exist without one Okay then beauty may be apart of her but it is not "uniquely" apart of her, which means it can exist outside of her (ie in another woman). If the ability to illicit sexual desire can be easily found outside of you then it might as well not be an integral part of you. You're now just teetering along a technicality. Men love you because of what your beauty can do for them, the fact that that beauty may be "apar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:12 PM
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Illiciting equal sexual arousal cannot exist without her? She can be replaced with a host of other women that have the ability to illicit arousal. One would just as easily say a man has money because of something he is. He is born into a upper class family, he is a business owner, he is a white collar professional, he is frugal. At the end of the day money and beauty are both just numbers (the latter of which is out of 10) that are partially bestowed at birth due to luck and partially something …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:48 AM
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She is useless to him because she cant illicit the awe and arousal that better women can illicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:24 AM
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I took the mbti functions test you linked earlier and these were my results: https://imgur.com/a/oUKtwwy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 11:44 PM
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A little off topic but do you think any of the types are particularly more inclined to testing "incorrectly"? I concluded I was INTP in my teens but upon coming back to it recently I keep testing as INTJ even though I still struggle to relate withto any INTJ descriptions. Although I could be confusing genuine neuroses for "INTP quirkiness". I struggle to answer any of the test questions wholeheartedly because I usually devolve into pedantic overanalysis and conclude something to the effect of "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 10:40 PM
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I guess within our school he was "high smv" but as soon as we left school he became nothing. He was chubby and 5'8 so the only reason he was popular in a small school was cuz he was an athlete and really masculine/alpha. We fucked in a bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 12:50 PM
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Youve got it wrong. Women arent "worried" for their girlfriends when they date older men. They pity and shame their girlfriends for lowering her status by having to "settle" for an older man. Women only "worry" about girls younger than them who date older men. Its a form of maternal affection, they remember what it was like being young and surrounded being tempted or played with by lecherous men and they want to protect her from it. They want to protect her from making mistakes that will make he…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 10:34 AM
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If you are in a group of people, that group spontaneously decides to go do something, and you do not then you are now opting out of the group in its present state.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:41 PM
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You said you were a skin head and that's what skin heads did. I assumed that you didn't just opt out of situations whenever they turned to fagbashing, clearly I was wrong. Some what related to your friendship with blacks: I think it's interesting you're so sexually repulsed by black men. One would think they'd be your ideal (masculinizing at a younger age, more violent etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:24 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong but I'd say they're incomparable. "I believe the black race is genetically predisposed to functioning poorly in modern society but I think you as an individual are still interesting and intelligent" Is different to: "I participate in beating up fags (because they're fags) on a Monday and then go partying with fags (because they're fags) on a Tuesday"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:02 PM
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Did the fagbashing cause any mixed feelings for you? How did you consolidate having such opposed groups of "friends"? Just keep them apart? Surely some of your fag friends took issue with all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:39 PM
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Did your time as a fag hag ever overlap with your time as a fag basher accomplice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:27 PM
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Burden of proof fam.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:12 PM
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You are welcome to argue that men and women both throw temper tantrums I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that the video wasn't in anyway a temper tantrum nor does aggression = temper tantrum. Showing me a woman displaying one of the most primal human emotions (one that is in fact more common in men) and then saying AWALT is what's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:11 PM
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Thanks for more useless hearsay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:01 PM
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Thanks for useless anecdata.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 08:42 PM
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How is this any more of a temper tantrum than what men do? This is a woman getting aggressive. How is aggression in anyway more common amongst women than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 08:42 PM
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Men will go on and on about how pure innocent inexperienced young women make the best wives and then act surprised when the retard throws a tantrum. Show me a woman with a PhD throwing a tantrum. ​ Men actively select for less intelligent and less mature women. CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:22 PM
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I don't agree with your use of the word "cultured" but yes you're right. There's nothing wrong with high betas, I'm just saying that's what this sub caters to.
/r/RedPillWomen28/06/19 11:05 AM
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This sub won't really tell you how to find masculine/dominant men. This sub leans towards "high betas" which most women would be happy with. The fact is the working class is the last refuge of true exaggerated masculinity.
/r/RedPillWomen28/06/19 09:34 AM
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I mean I know you don't believe in the whole lecherous older man poor defenseless young woman narrative, but you do admit the male and female imperatives are at odds. We trust 30 yo doctors/lawyers more than 20 yo professionals because we instinctively know the former are wiser. If the sexes are at odds isn't facing someone wiser a disadvantage? I can see it benefiting men, I can't see how normalising age gaps would bring anything but disadvantages to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:05 PM
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Im phoneposting rn so I cant find thea exact study but there was one passed around here multiple times showing that divorce rates are at their lowest amongst couples with a 0-3 yr age gap. Do you earnestly believe 20 yo women should be dating 30 yo men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:37 AM
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If they could they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:09 PM
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because being a single mother is a choice; being a single father usually isn't. This is a already a pretty tepid claim, but even if we agree that who a man impregnates *and* the fact she abandons him say nothing about his character per se it still doesn't change that few women want to be burdened by their husbands' bastards.
/r/RedPillWomen25/06/19 01:48 AM
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why would I want my hand when I have a hot DTF wife? Why would you need porn in the first place if you had a hot DTF wife? This weird logic doesn't apply to the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:56 AM
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Also, the problem usually isn’t porn. Whenever you ask a woman who blames porn, you will find out that the real problem is masturbation, not porn. I get what you mean but I just don't believe that the ridiculous availability of an unending variety of masturbation material doesn't radically alter masturbation from what it would be without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:07 AM
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You mean like the duty sex women have done since the conception of Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:39 PM
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Never claimed you cant destroy wife goggles in other ways. Never claimed men were angels before porn was widely available. Only ever claimed that the over use of porn in the long term will inevitably lead to destroying your wife goggles, which is exactly why women like in OP's story take issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:17 PM
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Plenty of men DO get it up for their old wives. The whole purpose of wife goggles is to allow a man to continue to find his wife attractive so he will stay with her and their kids. But what good is staying attracted to your once hot wife if you CAN get petite teen girls, and that's exactly what you're tricking your brain into thinking. Letting petite (all be it digital) teen girls bring you to orgasm daily and fire up your oxytocin (pair bonding hormone) is going to destroy wife goggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:28 PM
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You can never stop a man from thinking about other women, let alone teenage girls. But there's a pretty clear difference between "still finding other women attractive" and "obsessing over petite teens but settling for a gf you're not attracted to". As another poster said this is the female version of a BB with a chad obsessed gf. Men are quick to claim porn is harmless but if you hop over to r/deadbedrooms a lot of the female posters will mention how their husbands prefer the petite teens in por…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:55 PM
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I get why *being* a male nurse might be humiliating for him but why would his attending you be humiliating for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:12 AM
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Youre just rewording yourself.WHY is being a slut bad? Precisely because men are afraid of sluts cucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:57 PM
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You're right I forgot that the voice of a naive and inexperienced minority is usually most accurate. ​ > humans think biting wires is stupid, infant humans bite wires
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:37 PM
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It does. It doesnt matter if you dont think these men are creepy. What matters is that women think theyre creepy. There is a correlation between men who date much younger women and men with personalities that make them low RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:24 PM
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Dyou think individual women's demand for "violent, porn-like sex" (in the way of bdsm) has a negative impact on their men's ability to love them? I guess it would be a madonna-whore kinda thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 03:17 PM
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You're absolutely right single mothers should take what they can get. It's not that the deal isn't perfect it's that it's illogical. In your scenario the man making 40k has absolutely no leverage by which to negotiate with a single childless woman. It isn't going unfulfilled, men have largely stepped up and taken on more domestic duties than in the past, the fact that most couples have the woman do "most" of the housework is reflected by the fact that most couples have the man providing "most" o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:05 PM
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How is the inverse of this logic not also applicable? ​ Men have 2 options: 1, Pay all the bills and do housework 2, Pay a portion of the bills and do (a portion of) the housework ​ Surely even if the wife is only earning 40k her paying a portion of the bills still contributes to his quality of life, and now he's either doing just as much housework as before or even less by splitting it in half. ​ Your logic is applicable to both sexes and only skews one way when you factor in children. I.e. the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 09:24 PM
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I struggle to believe you live in a "central" European country. Maybe a balkan one with heavy muslim influence. Bars and casual sex are definitely a pretty common place thing in all European countries, (even if to a lesser extent than in the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:50 PM
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And the vast majority of men who are happy with their relationships are in relationships with women with an n count of 1+. It's almost as if porn use and having sex only become problems in excess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 12:08 AM
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Tell that to the women in /r/deadbedrooms whose husbands can't get it up anymore because they'd rather jerk it to teenage girls in film then face their post wall wives
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 01:20 AM
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OMG thank you for making me see the error of my ways. Youre so right. Clearly I should have said "Young hot women dont have extensive pastimes men would consider worthwhile hobbies" because obviously sacrificing absolute accuracy for efficiency of communication is a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 10:17 AM
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I enjoy eating. I do so frequently. It is not however a "hobby".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 03:20 AM
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Lmfao What a passive aggressive response. No English is not my second language. If anything you're the one that stuggles with english seeing as you cannot grasp that technical synonyms often have practical nuanced differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 02:50 AM
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You're being beyond obtuse. The original point was that women aren't interesting to men. I substituted the word "hobby". First of all makeup isnt a hobby its a pastime. Second of all it doesnt matter and you're being pedantic for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 12:19 AM
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Does it matter. When men on this post say they want a woman with hobbies they mean hobbies thatthey some how make her more interesting to talk to (ideally the same exact hobbies he has). Makeup and fashion may be a "hobby" to u but they dont make u more "interesting" to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:24 PM
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Yes that's my point. Its something that take sup the time a potential hobby would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:21 PM
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young HOT women Women at the top of the FSM. Stacies. Whatever you wanna call them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:44 PM
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This is a cop out. I'm sure you'll think my reply is a cop out too but: you're not a woman so you wouldn't know. I’d rather someone I have something in common with like interests beyond “looking hot”. Why? You have friends fro that. Most women try to merge into their bf's interests, what does it matter if it's some what forced? Sounds like you want a male buddy... with tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:35 PM
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The absolute irony of the men of PPD complaining that women dont have enough hobbies when in every other thread they'll talk about how hobbies, personality, achievements mean nothing in women. Young hot women don't have extensive hobbies because they spend all their time being young hot women. Getting hair/nails done, keeping up with fashion, shopping, experimenting with makeup, working out, toying with men and "flexing" on other women in the FSM. You want a girl with hobbies wait till she hits …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 11:56 AM
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Honestly an underrated point of the movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:14 PM
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There isn't as much advice for women on "how to girl" because there aren't as many women who need it as there are men who need advice on "how to man". Now why there are fewer such women isn't something I know the answer to but I presume it's very heavily related to whatever reason there are fewer autistic women than autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:09 PM
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Female attractiveness is not based on personality, behavior, status or achievement For sex yes. But she's not looking to get laid she's looking to get wifed up. All of those things do matter for getting commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 02:38 PM
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No one calls it ageism to say post wall women are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 05:15 PM
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to support it Yeh to support a claim neither I nor you originally made. look up to up Yes that's exactly what Im saying. Looking "up" to someone is called that because it refers to a hierarchy. That you have to be disrespectful, mean, and look down on them? You can be courteous, nice and diplomatic with a person without respecting or looking up to them. This is all really silly since at the end of the day you made a brass claim that men like equals, and that theres multiple surveys proving such,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 12:29 AM
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Okay so yet again only one out of the four surveys youve linked refer to what you initially claimed, i.e. that men like women to be their equals. 3 sources telling me women don't want to support men emotionally or financially when I've already admitted to that obvious fact are useless in this discussion. You've only managed to find one source that is even related to your original point, and it directly contradicts it. How does men wanting "nice" women mean they want equals? Even if the word "nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:35 PM
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I never claimed women don't want men better than them too. ​ You can meander around it all you like but you claimed there were studies, then linked a completely unrelated survey but somehow couldn't like the survey I asked for, how convenient. ​ > misandry and nothing more. ​ How about my lived experiences as a woman who actually looks around and notices what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:12 PM
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Never said women don't want a man better than them too... You can meander around it all you like if you're gonna claim there are surveys its on you to link em. Clearly you had the ability to link an unrelated survey but somehow couldn't find these surveys you spoke about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:09 PM
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Cite these studies. Yup men definitely want female equals. Thats exactly why men fantasise about strong intependent women and not submissive teenage waifus.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:26 PM
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I understand the number was randomly chosen. Im pointing out that the collected data (whatever exact number it may be) is less misleading than youre arguing it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:21 PM
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Men never want equals. It means he wants all the benefits of inequality with none of the burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:00 PM
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36% of men who can ditch their wives do ditch their wives. This isn't as misleading as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 03:59 PM
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You think TRP is based off a survey? You think objectivism/marxism/anarchism was based off a survey? Why do I need a survey to assert a pretty obvious observation. I am a young woman. The amount of older men who deliberately hit me up far outweighs the amount of older men i stubble upon and develop acquaintances with. Any understanding of the average young woman's life would tell you this applies to her too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:05 AM
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He also only dated women his age before me so I know ageing won't be an issue. Congrats you're already in a very different boat than the vast majority of girls dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:53 PM
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Would you still love this man if tomorrow he had no money or status? Do you think your fiance would still love you if tomorrow you weren't a hot young 24 yo?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:40 PM
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talk to him verbal communication is a woman's domain. "Talking" to men often does not work. You took everything I said too literally. "is this fair" doesn't literally mean "does this correspond with God's divine code" and "what should I do" doesn't literally mean "please instruct me". If I'm in work and I ask a coworker how they'd perform a task it's not because I want them to instruct me it's because I want to see other potentially different thoughts/techniques and compare them to my own. it's …
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/19 01:42 PM
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I may "think" that such an arrangement is "[un]fair". I may be wrong about that. I was looking for general "advice" on cohabitation. And more specific advice on what the reasonable expectations of cohabitation may be, whether cohabitation prior to marriage should be avoided regardless of negotiation and whether "negotiating household duties [is] tantamount to negotiating sex/commitment/attraction" (and therefore best avoided).
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/19 02:19 AM
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lol, alright you have a point, life isn't fair. I guess you can rephrase it as "I just don't think the benefits of such a relationship outweigh the costs, to me personally".
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/19 01:56 AM
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Is that not contradictory? You've explained that who women find top tier in their 20s changes once they enter their 30s. So how are the top tier men at 30 pulling 20 yos if the 20 yos are looking for douche bro frat party guys who are soooo fun instead of the stable accountants?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:04 AM
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Men and women both find male homosexuality *disgusting*. Male homosexuality does not directly involve women so of course they don't mind being friends with gay men themselves. But watch how women react if their husbands were to become close friends with a gay man, or if their husband suddenly says he's open to experimenting. To a straight man the thought of *having* gay sex is disgusting. To a straight woman the thought of her *husband* having gay sex is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:29 PM
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I don't even know how to respond to people who come onto a debate sub with the sole purpose of not debating in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 01:03 PM
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Apply all of that in reverse. Men choose bitch Stacy's who spent their 20s being showered with attention and gifts and then act surprised when that same Stacy doesn't stick with you once your gifts stop coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 12:56 PM
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Nah I was referring to the only other response passepar2t's comment had at the time. The one saying he's an "ambivert".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:01 PM
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I guess now is a better time than ever. Idk the average female age at first marriage in my country is 33, it just feels like a life time away.
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/19 11:36 AM
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The comment I responded to was on being "test[ed]".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 11:31 AM
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"no u" ​ Edit: womens' *
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:01 PM
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Don't listen to the other commenter. In MBTI you can only have one type because you can only use one function primarily, another function secondarily etc. Functions take time to develop as you age so you do not have the time or the energy or the need to develop both extroverted and introverted versions of each function. The "tests" are based off of stereotypes of each of the types. You can not fit all the stereotypes of an INTP but if you still use INTP functions then you're still an INTP lol. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 12:22 PM
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I mean, the more general/wishy washy answer would be that I'm still young, still discovering things about myself and my life so it seems a bit early to be placing such dealbreakers on a good relationship when I'm still not 100% sure about what i want in life/relationships. The more concrete answer is that I'm in a good relationship and it's hard to just end something that makes you happy.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/19 03:16 AM
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Why would that risk be lower if I date an older woman? Because the brain doesn't stop developing until 25. Because a woman who has shown she can run her own household stably and efficiently is more likely to run your household and raise your children stably and efficiently than a college student who eats ramen noodles daily and still doesn't quite know how to do her own laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 01:34 AM
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That's all mostly true. You may refuse to be "jaded" but it doesn't change the fact that older men in general are just as likely to be jaded as older women. My only counter argument is that you'd be taking the same risk in dating younger women. Instead of will he be a CEO or a cashier it's will she be a loving wife and mother or a branch swinging BPD sufferer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 12:41 AM
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Since when has this punchline meant to shame men? It's always been to the benefit of men. "You deserve a gorgeous intelligent wife even if you're a fat slob."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 12:26 AM
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When we are talking about a relationship she wants my best, which is fair, whatever she wants from me I will provide. But you aren't providing her with your best, by your own account. ​ Even if we concede that men improve as they age you've said yourself " Everything an older woman can provide, the younger woman will be able to provide, all I have to do is wait for her to grow up. ". Everything you have now a younger man will have once he ages. ​ You also cannot provide " the specific things tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 12:24 AM
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Okay. It's still men hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 11:45 PM
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Men like me... See this is my point. These conversations always boil down to men hamstering and shaming women in order to show off to strangers online. Yes, by this definition we are as equal minority as those women. That's some piss poor maths/stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 11:44 PM
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What a pointless description. Define "plenty". Clearly not as many as men want. If a small minority of women much smaller than the majority of men whoin want to sleep with then constitutes "plenty" then sure theres plenty. Find a single woman on PPD who disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 12:36 AM
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Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 03:50 PM
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I love all the PPD men suddenly saying shes a young girl at 30 when in another thread theyll claim 30 yo women are post wall hags.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:38 PM
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How is that successful? Being a single mother makes you bottom of the barrel. Having a hobby (ie playing piano and violin) says nothing. She says nothing about. doing so professionally only that she can/does play instruments which by itself is a hobby. She has a bachelors which is bare minimum for the UMC and not hard to get. Shes trying to get another bachelors which wouldnt be that much of anthe achievement even if it were anything more than an attempt atm. Her only above average achievement i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:32 PM
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Individual women. No one has ever said individual outliers dont sleep with older men. The majority of young women think your creepy. You do not date the majority you date outliers. How the hell is this hard to understand. PPD men just larping about women shaming them by lying about the desires of young women when they literally are (or were) young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:27 PM
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This. No one has ever claimed that its impossible for an individual woman to find an older man attractive. But they are clearly outliers and usually for a particular reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:24 PM
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I think what some men dont like is the idea that younger women generally do find them creepy and wouldnt date them, where does that leave them? Having to date post wall women? So they start the good ol shaming (of post wall women who tell the truth).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:23 PM
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I don't get what youre saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:44 AM
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Do they teach this? RedPillWives has a great thread on dominance thresholds which outlines precisely why this "the most masculine men get the most feminine women" trope from TRP is false. Women with low dominance thresholds cannot handle highly dominant men, and it's pretty easy to see there's a correlation between having a low dominance threshold and being low dominance yourself (i.e. more feminine). Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWives/comments/4ep0xh/relationship_dynamics_part_one_upda…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:24 AM
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"I intentionally come onto a debate subreddit but you know I don't really feel like debating". You're a divorcee married to a woman 10+ yrs your junior. What makes you think you're the "normal" one here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 01:44 AM
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Thank god we can make snarky comments when we can't think of intelligent replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 01:30 AM
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And why upgrade when you've got a sexy young wife at home Same reason Trump upgraded for a third younger wife. No man goes into marriage thinking he'll upgrade. When you're wife gets old no matter how good she looks or how good of a mother she is, your eyes will wander to younger women, and the only thing stopping you from cheating/upgrading will be wife goggles/pair bonding. This is precisely why women should date men with good pair bonding ability and older men who've pumped and dumped and bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 01:14 AM
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I mean what girl wants to be the starter wife? Marry an older guy and you'll both grow old together. So instead of a starter wife she'll be the second wife that gets upgraded for a third one. Isn't that exactly what you've hinted at wanting? Isn't that what men like Trump do? Plus you won't grow old together that's the point, he's already enjoyed his youth with someone else and will die and leave you alone during ur retirement. Also why would a girl want to work? How will she be a good mother of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 03:54 PM
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Women desire a man who is desired by other women. Sure Women want a guy who has bedded a high number of sweet girls No, Women want a guy who can bed a high number of sweet girls. An attractive commitment minded, family oriented man is more desireable than a plate spinner. As a highly desirable guy, a very attractive masculine male, what other chance does my wife have? As a highly desirable girl, a very attractive feminine female she has a world of men to choose from. Plenty of whom are attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 03:05 PM
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> Marry an older guy. Right so the reverse of BB. Women should give their youth and beauty to a man who's already gotten to enjoy his and other women's. A man who's ability to pair bond has already been shattered. All because he has the resources that men her own age will eventually have too? ​ > So not only are they young but they are really stupid and unwise as well and they'll fall for the dumbest shit you can imagine. Perverse incentives like I said. This is precisely why women shouldn't go …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:58 PM
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Aww thats super sweet. Were you at all worried about "the wall" / not being able to move on from him, at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:36 PM
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this might be a stupid question but I've always been curious. What made you dump the first guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 09:58 PM
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Im earnestly curious, I understand why marriage is important to women but do you really think a man cant be your life partner without marrying you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 03:51 AM
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Ok. I was specifically referring to: " It's a reason that doesn't usually *lead to good things.* "
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/19 12:34 AM
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Marriage isn't about "children", it's about "family". And that includes childless families. If you decide you, your Husband and your two pet labradors are your family then they are. What marriage is is a merger of two lives and two people from friends to family. When you get married you declare to yourself, your spouse and your community that this person is no longer just a lover or soul mate or partner but a family member with all the psychological, cultural (and usually legal) ramifications of…
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/19 03:16 PM
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Educated, intelligent and level headed women raise educated, intelligent and level headed children. Educated, intelligent and level headed women *generally* don't settle down or raise children prior to marriage. ​ Having to settle for the type of woman that will raise your children out of wedlock usually doesn't lead to good things either. ​ (I recognise this doesn't apply to childless couples like OP, I'm just addressing the "lead to good things" remark.)
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/19 03:06 PM
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is there any concrete reason to get married as a woman, She asked for reasons to get married *as a woman* not *as a man*. Even so women still lose assets in marriage. Both parties go from owning 100% of the marital assets to owning 50%. ​ Even if a part of queenofquac's response wasn't relevant, most of it still was. Men still benefit from having a partner "specialize" in different tasks.
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/19 03:02 PM
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Similarly Western European. I think you're mistaken about 16 yo's dating 20 yo's being the norm. It happened more than sparingly in my community but it was mostly a working class thing in which girls with little to no prospects outside high school dated men in blue collar work who could afford cars/their own apartments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:38 PM
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The fact that it's never in reverse is true and pretty obvious. What country do you come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 03:59 PM
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The same could be said for my country and pretty much every country because its a misleading stat. A majority date 0-6 yrs older. A smaller majority date 0-4 yrs older. An even smaller majority date 0-2 yrs older. You could just as easily say most women date a man between 0-30 yrs older. Yes they do and the vast majority are only 0-2. I'm not talking about the 23 yo white collar professional dating the 28 yo white collar professional. I'm talking about the 18 yo college freshman dating the 36 yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 03:20 PM
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If they were all young women would be going for them. Being a young widow and spending your retirement alone isn't attractive. The lack of passion in older romances compared to puppy love, as well as decreased ability to pair bond are not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 03:03 PM
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Go to any of the threads or comments in which men explain why they choose to date younger women and they give a pelthora of other factors, including the fact they are "less demanding" (ie they are immature enough to not realise when they're given the short end of the stick).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 03:01 PM
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The female imperative is to settle down and nab commitment from the best man they can. Having "sexual relationships" that do not lead to that are therefore detrimental to the female imperative. Having plenty meaningless "sexual relationships" IS the male imperative. This is my point. Age gaps favour men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 03:00 PM
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Dating older men isn't a female imperative lol. It may be a strategy to achieve the female imperative but is isnt the female imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 02:57 PM
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To say I was "manipulated" would be going too far. There were times I've been with older men that I regret though. My first-ish boyfriend was 35/36 while I was 19. He didn't "manipulate" me. He was just a guy who took me on dates and seemed impressive at the time. The point is that he wasn't impressive. He was a loser. But I didn't see that at the time (at least not at the beginning). When you've just turned 19 and have little to no experience with men a man taking you out to dinner and driving …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 02:53 PM
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In you're example the older attorney is mentoring the younger attorney for the younger attorney's benefit. The complete would happen in a relationship. Male and female imperatives are directly competing. An older man "mentoring" a younger lover is molding her to suit the male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:28 PM
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I should be paid for having to read these lazy "responses".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:21 PM
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Where did I say you have to justify yourselves? Get off a debate sub if you're not going to debate how is this hard to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:19 PM
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I wasn't aware that there were retards dumb enough to come onto a debate sub and proclaim the fact they aren't obligated to be here or to actually debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:18 PM
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Literally what on earth does this have to do with anything that I said other than confirming it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:17 PM
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Such good faith responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:16 PM
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They aren't. The reasons for the encouragement/justifications are. Read my OP or my response to atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:16 PM
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The reasons aren't consistent. "18 yo's are mature, strong and independent and in no way have a mental disadvantage to a 30 yo" and "18 yo's expect less than 30 yo women and benefit from the mature and experienced 30 men" are not consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:15 PM
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Thanks for confirming OP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:23 PM
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Right so why would she sleep with an older man if 18 yo men are already strong and powerful?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:21 PM
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Except the men justifying age gaps are the same ones encouraging age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:19 PM
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Because he can bring anything else to the table Like what? Everything he can bring to the table now is either worse than it was 10 years ago or something that a man 10 yrs younger will eventually also bring to the table in 10 yrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:53 PM
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Lmfao, that's fair. Comment rescinded. She's still more attractive and everything else I said is still valid and conveniently ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:52 PM
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But neither do you... so why would you assume it's always a flaw with the wife and not the husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:50 PM
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Why would that matter when the younger/hotter new wife can also do those things? In fact why would it matter if your wife does all of those things if a maid/cook and tinder thots can do it even better?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:47 PM
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she’s old. Relative to you maybe. She's young relative to him, and (most importantly) young relative to his wife. ​ What examples are there of high value men not leaving their wives to fuck youngsters? Maybe its my own bias but idk of many (any) rich men like that. ​ It goes without saying that I disagree with your basic premise. AWALT is a heuristic and so is AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:42 PM
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what reason would he leave to leave? Being able to finally satisfy his sexual imperative by sleeping with multiple barely legal women more attractive than his wife ever was, and then eventually marry one of those women if he really wants the benefits a wife brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:35 PM
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Do you genuinely believe men can do no wrong? I know its obviously one sided but Justine Musk's article is interesting nonetheless. https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:05 PM
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But why would the scenario in your first paragraph not apply to an old wife you married young.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:46 PM
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It seems the consensus amongst RPW (the original kind, the likes of /u/atlas_b_shruggin) is that this is a sure fire way to become a starter wife. (see musk or bezos)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:43 PM
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Lmfao what an obviously emotional reponse... No one is saying some girl dont have daddy issues. No one is saying some girls wont date older men. Were saying most women on average dont want to date much older men. Meaning that even if a 10-15 yr age gap can exist in individual relationships it isntwas sustainable as a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 02:17 AM
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Okay so all that typing to effectively just say "yeh you should find male sexuality terrifying", when my initial point was only ever that u seemed needlessly dismissive of the same worries u r now saying r valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:25 AM
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You've spent half the post trying to convince me that the wall and trp concepts are correct when i never said they werent. M point was that the very fact TRP concepts are true and the fact men are constantly going on about them is a good reason for women to worry. Our sharp decrease in SMV/RMV past 25 and the way men describe it is a very good reason for women to worry. The fact men's sex drive is a force we fail to understand is a good reason to worry about it/distrust them. The things we hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 05:36 PM
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You act as if these worries are totally unfounded and it's ridiculous to think a satisfied man will cheat. Maybe women fear men cheating because we're constantly being told directly and indirectly that our looks are our most important feature. Maybe we fear this because of how vehementally TRP and incels scream about "the wall" and how all women are used up past 25. Maybe we fear this because in the previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/anjimr/what_are_some_things_you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 12:49 AM
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IME men who fuck trannies are either bi, fetishists or opportunists. Bi guys arent desperate but might be low value in women's eyes. Being desperate will certainly make a man more likely to be an opportunist. As far as straight guys with fetishes they arent desperate or low value, they're your typical teachers, doctors, office workers, builders and members of the community who marry cis women and have kids and fuck tranny hookers on the sly. The only reason trans women would become competition f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 09:07 PM
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Obviously this question wasn't directed at me so I won't bother answering it but I will comment on something I found interesting. One person commented that they don't see trans women as competition in dating because any man who'd date a trans woman isn't one they'd want to date themselves. ​ It's not at all surprising seeing as (i think) 60 something % of women would reject a bisexual man outright, and it is common knowledge that women find such behaviour emasculating and unnattractive. What's i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 01:27 PM
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If. men arent capable of finding women their own age attractive the why should any of us bother with monogamy. Clearly men are only ever capable of liking women in their twenties...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:09 PM
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I dont understand how women in these relationships can feel loved. The article is full of her talking about how wonderful his personality is how great the guy is how well he carries himself etc. she clearly has a very high opinion of him. She takes paragraphs to describe whats great about him but you know the only thing that he sees in her is her youth. I guess in a regular relationship you can at least pretend you arent shallow. Idk how you can love someone knowing that the #1 thing they value …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 01:35 AM
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This really isnt the sub to ask this in. The cis women here arent gonna have any experience dating as a trans women, and those men who do date trans women arent gonna be openly talking about it. So most of RPW will have no clue how to answer your question. Tbh I cant really answer the question very objectively either. Anecdotally I can tell you Ive dated financially successful men who would be prime beta bux but who didnt have many of the more "alpha" qualities that make a good captain. It seems…
/r/RedPillWomen25/12/18 08:11 PM
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