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It’s still possible to have sex with 50+ men and barely ever initiate compared to men if you have sex every time you initiate, where men have a hit rate of more like 1 in 100 at best source: my ex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:02 PM
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It’s not a particularly substantive basis for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:55 PM
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A general statement is an absolute statement that may have specific, predictable exceptions. It’s still a statement that requires a higher standard of proof. You don’t need to have met every woman, but you need to have unbiased data on a large and diverse enough sample of women that you can reasonably generalize to the entire population and control for confounding variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:53 PM
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no it’s not. You made a sweeping claim. If you were just saying “you haven’t proved that’s always true” the burden of proof would be on the original claim. You said “You haven’t proved that that’s always true, instead, this is a general truth based on my sample size of one”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:51 PM
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strong addition
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:49 PM
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A lot of them come from TRP, so the answer is yes to both. But the air quotes around “men” is unnecessary. Plenty of men are virgins, bad at sex, stupid, inconsiderate, or otherwise just not worth engaging with for any reason. They’re still men. Being a man isn’t anything but being an adult human who lives as a man. It’s nothing to be especially proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:47 PM
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That’s not initiating (at least not generally speaking; if you and your partner KNOW what a signal means maybe it could be) If it’s not something that makes it unambiguously clear that he has the option for sex if he wants it, it’s not initiating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:44 PM
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Oh, I think I get you. I generally try to take a systems theory approach to life informed by the C-theories (chaos, complexity, coherence) so things like strange attractors, feedback loops, etc are things I try to see at the macro scale. It would definitely be interesting to try to apply them more precisely
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:03 AM
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Thank you! I know Mach’s principle says something about what it means for an element to be rotating relative to a global frame of reference, so there may be some conclusions to draw there, but I hadn’t really thought about what the elaborated implications in real life might be
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 12:41 AM
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We go into detail elsewhere on why it’s silly to assume it can be compactified into a one dimensional function
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:21 AM
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Beautiful addition; thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:16 AM
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I never even mentioned red pill in the OP. I’m not redpilled. Or bluepilled. I’m whitepilled. EDIT: Apparently the sub has been deleted or privatized; my memory of it is basically reformed blackpill EDIT2: I guess white supremacists use that term now too? I’m indigenous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 01:17 AM
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I may have mistakenly given the impression that I think I don’t personally judge people; I definitely judge the fuck out of people. This CMV was about one of the things I judge the fuck out of people over
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:39 AM
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Thank you for this!!! I’ll check it out!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:51 PM
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Well if I went around eating people I sure wouldn’t go for the rotten ones first
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:38 PM
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Well, assuming the other person is real, there’s their perception of your value, which is subjective, and your perception of their perception of your value, which is subjective, plus just the way you treat each other which has to be interpreted subjectively but it probably within your culture would be interpreted by the average person in basically the same way. Human interactions are fairly universal in emotional content.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:30 PM
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I think conceptually, it’s useful to think about there being at least two subjective components and one objective component
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:20 PM
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No, Jesus Christ. I hope nobody else thinks I’m saying that. People should be referred to as people. Barring that, men, women, whatever they want to be called, or their name will do just fine. My general philosophy is that traumatizing people is bad because it’s dangerous, so don’t do it unless you have a plan to make things right again for them somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:26 PM
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I think you’re right. The responses were really interesting; there was a lot of agreement and disagreement from both TRP and FDS people. It’s also really interesting to see how many people claim with absolute conviction that their beliefs are based on “reality”. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:20 PM
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You are right on the mark. My point here was to explain how a certain action which benefits the individual also benefits the collective, which should hopefully mean there’s no good reason not to do it except not thinking about it. There’s a very long comment thread here where I try to explain why this is probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:06 PM
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Yes, I think it promotes growth mindsets. If a serial killer or a genocidaire can reform into a philanthropist, I think we should be facilitating that transformation wherever possible. Since we have more than enough serial killers and arguably not enough actual philanthropists (not just people who do it for tax breaks)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 08:28 PM
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I appreciate the conversation, it was interesting and I'm grateful for your time. Just one last explanation of why you're wrong: no human knows the thoughts of every other person. Doesn't preclude the concept of a supersystem, matrix, independent observer etc. that can observe those things. Any human only sees one projection of this set. So saying you can talk about true value by knowing subjective value is like saying you can know the area of a triangle by only seeing one leg. In a lot of cases…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:26 PM
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I'm not really arguing for or against much of anything other than trying not to piss people off. I linked to Wittgenstein because of his good foundation demonstrating that logical philosophical arguments generally can be reduced to semantics. So calling something "semantics" doesn't minimize it the way it seems like you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:21 PM
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You can disagree with the axioms all you want, but I was never trying to model your decisions. I'm modeling the decisions of someone with typical ASPD thinking, which is easy for me for reasons I delved into earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:15 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_Investigations#Meaning_in_language
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:05 PM
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Okay, we're getting closer. So the experience of the sociopath is the only experience that matters, but it isn't exclusive with the idea of an objective reality, or other conscious beings. We will talk about an entity E. Take the set Vt as E's "true value". It will be the bijective set of the subjective valuations of every conscious being of entity E. These valuations occur from -infinity to infinity or -FS to FS, however you want to think about it (I use full scale because dB is good for measur…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:59 PM
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I wasn't referring to SMV, just to the phenomenon I see where people are advocating general violence or other kinds of antisocial behavior towards men referred to as "low value", which doesn't have a qualifier on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:45 PM
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It changes it to make that particular association automatic, so if your mind has catalogued other traits along with the phrase HVM, you will think of them even if there's no "logical connection". It can be as benign as thinking of America when you hear "car" versus Britain when you hear "automobile". But that's unlikely to be a negative. Another comparison might be thinking about what happens to your brain if you were to refer to all Black people using the N-word, even if only in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:44 PM
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I think I missed a section when I was typing up my response earlier; I should have explained the connection to sociopathy. If you really want the logical framework I can do it. I'm not going to put it in symbolic logic unless you absolutely insist because it's harder to type and I don't want to use LaTeX right now. ASPD is characterized by selfish behavior, lack of empathy, and disregard for social norms. So I will model their decision process on the Cartesian consciousness in a void. I am choos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:40 PM
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The words you use change your brain, look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:05 PM
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No, I'm using them in the mathematical sense. If you don't understand how I'm using I'm more than willing to explain, but if you're saying it "means nothing" you're not understanding me. I'm literally describing a geometrical abstraction. There is no reason that HVM is worse than saying 'a male that is considered a high value potential mate' (implying attractive, successful, mentally stable, etc...) except that it is more terse. That doesn't make it worse at all. Words that are short and simple …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:04 PM
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It implies they can exist, but I think it provides a good argument that no living person would be able to meaningfully assess it. Every time I see this value modality of judgment pop up someone always takes it to genocide. If a person can have a zero or negative value and you're evaluating people, rather than behavior, genocide just makes good sense. But if you take a behavior evaluation framework it's extremely obvious why genocide is a low value strategy and an idiotic response to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:59 PM
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No judgment on the response, but it's pretty interesting how every red pill person assumed I was talking about sexual market value even though I never brought up sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:42 PM
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They also get confused about how to extend their logical systems to better reflect reality, which is one of the most frustrating things. It's like by saying they're wrong you're somehow invalidating every conclusion they've ever drawn which is never the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:40 PM
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I'm a biomedical engineering student who mostly has a focus on neuroscience and the relationship of cognitive psychology to linguistics. Language rewires the brain. This is well established. The words we use do actually change humanity, whether or not any individual person wants to acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:39 PM
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Maybe some of us don't strict definitions. I do. The key word in that phrase is "objective" not "context". My goal was to provide a logical framework that would contextualize a more pro-social behavior as being individually rewarding, even to a sociopath. We live in an individualistic culture and hoping that people do the right thing is clearly not enough to make it happen. If I can provide even a sociopath with a reason they should do something that will affect other people positively, getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:37 PM
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I see you dodged the question of prosociality by deferring to growth, which I am forced to support. I also looked at your most recent post and I really want to disagree with you just for that, but based on this comment, I really can’t. The implication of this concept, then, is that low or high value itself is a much less interesting number than the derivative or instantaneous rate of change of the value. I don’t care what their value is nearly as much as I care how fast they’re changing it and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:21 PM
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Thank you 🌺✨ You’re nice. I appreciate the energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:09 PM
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I believe the consequences for most people are probably minor to nonexistent, but it had a big impact on my life so I guess I’m ornery. I’m also positive I’m not the only one affected by it, because according to half of this sub I’m basically Thunder Chad judging by my n-count so I’m sure other guys have it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:08 PM
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Points I agree with: thinking about life in terms of fairness and deserving things is bad. It’s really bad for the individual person, but also therefore bad for society. For the sake of context, evidence suggests I am a high-functioning sociopath. And it’s usually other sociopaths and psychopaths who determine the boundary for the worst we treat other people. So I tried to make this readable for other sociopaths because I think if they change their minds, the rest will be easier to get into line…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:05 PM
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I’m familiar with the halo effect; you may want to look up Tarski’s Undefinability Theorem which formally proves that nobody actually knows anything at all about how the world actually is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:23 PM
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Yeehaw. Okay, you’re the first person on this thread to actually counter a basic postulate of the argument. For the rest of you keeping score: She just provided a more objective framing by making it reliant on context. That being said, I still think it’s shitty to use. These terms could be replaced with the ones I suggested. And these mentalities don’t stay just isolated to the subreddit or just to the scope they were created for, these people go out into the world and act on these beliefs wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:21 PM
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I’m trying to make this something that can be interpreted and parsed even by sociopaths. So arguments that rely on the concept of objective morality aren’t going to cut it. For a clear example, imagine if the very first human mating interaction was a rape. Does that make the man low value? Hard to say, since literally the entirety of human existence after that was dependent on him being who he was. But we can still say that rape is a low value behavior because if normalized (or more normalized),…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:14 PM
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A number of responses on this thread have pushed me to at least slightly adjust my view, but honestly I’m not sure you read very closely because there’s no emotional content. Completely negating my view could be done the following ways: Prove (or persuade convincingly) that HVM/LVM terminology is pro social, rather than antisocial. This can also be done by proving that it’s good for the person being evaluated somehow. Prove that the terminology can be defined in a non-subjective way. Prove the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:10 PM
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You may want to go back and read the whole now; I think our frames have desynchronized
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:05 PM
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Okay, point. There is a biological reality to be interpreted that can’t be denied or suppressed. I would argue though, that nothing about the internal social status evaluation prohibits a different cognitive interpretation. Like it’s not that many extra steps to say “this person has no value in my life” versus “this person has no value whatsoever.” Because, to get all clinical and weird about it, all mass and energy has value. All humans also therefore have some minimum level of value, even if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:03 PM
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I don’t refer to people as “lowlives” for exactly this reason. Social, economic, and political institutions almost all perpetuate the active corruption of meritocracy. The US government has made billions off of the backs of criminalized people of color, many of whom were innocent of the crime they were accused of. There’s always things you don’t see
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:58 PM
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The exceptions always end up coming out of the woodwork and fucking things up though. Like, 20th century American patriarchy was based on a generalization that women were weaker and better suited to the home, and men were stronger and better suited to providing. And eventually enough of both got fed up with those assumptions that they started tearing the system down come hell or high water. For the sake of social stability if nothing else, it makes sense to me to establish social norms that leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:55 PM
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What are you saying is the truth? That those are the judgments people make in their head? I know that’s how they do it right now, but I think it’s something that can be and should be changed and it would be good for both every individual as well as society
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:52 PM
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Well, okay. Yes. Everyone uses heuristic judgments; it’s not practical to try to actually assess everything super rigorously. But do you agree that the same heuristic judgments could be as useful, if not more so, and possibly more pro social if we directed them towards ideas and actions rather than people? You can still use it to make decisions about people, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:50 PM
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It sort of sounds like you agree with me, but don’t think a different term should be used? I’m curious as to why, if that’s the case. Your comment also makes me think of HVM and LVM as measures of how much the person values themselves, which is thought-provoking and might be a useful way to use it. But also, it would make people saying stuff like “all LVM should just go die forever alone” like, completely morally abhorrent. It would mean LVMs are people we should be directing our deepest and war…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:48 PM
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Definitely expressing one’s thoughts is something I support. There’s also a feedback relationship where the things you say become cemented as beliefs if you don’t already believe them, which is part of why I think this is important. As to reasons why not to do it, here’s two: Pro social incentive: Rating behaviors instead of people encourages a growth mindset in the populace at large, which will encourage self-development, improve the quality of social interactions, and ultimately increase the q…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:44 PM
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I’m not sure where the idea that HV women date men close to their age is coming from without knowing what I consider to be value in a woman, but if it helps explain anything I grew up mostly under the poverty line and am still working my way up to where I can save and be completely financially independent. I’m 25 now. If it happens sooner that would be nice, but I’m trying to be patient with myself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:40 PM
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If I’m reading the way you’re using HVM/LVM correctly, you’re using it as “mate”. I think that’s probably got more merit to it so I’ll address it under that assumption. A high value attorney (I’ve never heard anyone use this phrase but I will imagine) would be being judged by their value as an attorney. That is to say, the scope of the valuation is limited to their relationship to the legal system. Wherever context is limited to something that a single human being could actually reasonably obser…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:35 PM
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Good point; I’m not sure if the way I expand on it will be too eggheaded but I’ll give it a go. The usage of “value”, outside the context of any particular market in which a valuation metric can be precisely defined, implies an abstracted and holistic kind of value. Like that’s not just your value to this person, that’s your value to the whole universe. Not everyone uses it like this, and those are the cases where I think it can be easily replaced with another term. But there are those who use i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:27 PM
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It's definitely a code. I would say mostly they are lying to themselves, but not in a way that is particularly egregious compared to the lies most people tell themselves. My point is mainly that the particular wording of the code they use is itself harmful and reinforces thought patterns and societal relationships that degrade the quality of societal interaction for everybody. Women can and should choose whatever they like. Honestly, in my experience what I've wanted the most from the women I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:09 PM
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This isn’t really an argument, is it? You used the term I coined. So, thank you, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:56 PM
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This sounds like TRP SMV theory, which if you’re explicitly referring to a particular economic market makes a little more sense, but I’m talking about the FDS practice of just labeling people. They don’t assume men who have high sexual attractiveness are “high value”; generally, the way they use HVM and LVM refer to that person’s value in their life but a lot of the more toxic ones use it as some kind of objective rating system
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:54 PM
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That's a big if. Also, having regular sex at one point in time isn't an indication that you'll have regular sex for the rest of the relationship. This isn't about her being frigid, either; as relationships progress sometimes the sex will change in quality and frequency just because you're both going through changes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:08 PM
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Where are you getting the idea that succeeding in a career requires sacrificing emotional growth or "hardening"? I don't know any successful people that don't have managing their emotions as a daily priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:07 PM
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This is my favorite comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:02 PM
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This comment makes me strongly feel like you have never been good at sex, or empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:00 PM
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Underrated for younger men. Once I hit 35-40 I imagine I’ll want to get hitched. That being said, I’m not “constantly on the hunt” for women. I don’t want to “constantly” do anything related specifically to women; that’s why I’m a bachelor. The advantage is that using all that time for self improvement and making your life circumstances better makes you more attractive to women. It decreases the effort needed to find someone interested in you. The returns are disproportionately huge honestly but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 08:58 AM
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The premise is sound, but actually reading personalities based on these superficial life traits is pretty hard, especially if it’s a field you’re not familiar with. Like you would think doctors and health professionals would be some of the most empathetic people but a lot of them have weird power issues or are functionally sociopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:49 AM
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Isn’t anything a silly reason to do anything? People decide what motivates them. But status in particular is something I think is extremely useful as a means to an end; I don’t personally find it interesting as a goal in itself although I don’t judge people who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:32 AM
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Glad someone else said this so I didn’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:30 AM
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Prominent chins, high cheek bones, almond shaped eyes and big lips are all characteristics of cultures that are not European. What you are describing as "girl next door" looks sounds to me like the waifish, Eurocentric beauty ideal pushed in America for a very long time. Having more curves and stronger features isn't a characteristic of women in porn, it's a characteristic of non-white women. Perhaps porn has done something to change those preferences by displaying a wider range of body types th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:01 AM
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I mean there’s more than one way to skin a cat. I think marriage and monogamy is good for this, but not that it’s the only way to do it. There are very few things that are exclusive to a monogamous relationship. One of the few I can think of really depends on context and where you live. Marriage comes with status and the aura of adulthood and maturity in many cultures, especially religious ones. Eschewing it might mean giving up that status symbol, but how much that matters is up to you. Really …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:10 AM
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Monogamy is good for building dynastic wealth and strengthening social bonds, especially across cultures. That’s the best reason I see. Otherwise, no real reason, assuming you’re managing your disease risk and everything else well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:53 AM
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No, if it helps her get off I encourage it. Me and my ex would often watch in bed together. I think it helped her get out of self conscious headspace sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:25 PM
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Look for someone where you both bring out the best in each other
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:18 PM
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Cult behavior anywhere is pretty much identical which is why it shows up in movies a lot, makes sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:05 PM
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The things I gatekept for (the more I read this sub the more I sound like the hypothetical “Mega Thunder Chad” but what I’ll say is it’s definitely not all it’s cracked up to be): Kids Not attractive enough to go to the Grammy’s with. This can partially be genetics but has a lot more to do with performing femininity/status Gets too attached to be independent from me Bad hygiene Ignorant (willful is worse than unintentional but both are bad Tends to avoid conflict Long distance Tries to make me j…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:45 PM
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Men shouldn’t be confusing acceptance with love
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:40 PM
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Women who knowingly and willingly support their friends “even when they are wrong” Women who display different moral standards for in group versus out group members. Women who hate men. Yes it’s fine that you hate men because of your trauma. Yes, it’s vaguely flattering that you think I’m “different” and “not like other guys” and “genuinely good”. Don’t care. Not interested in seeing what happens when you start to doubt that. Hating a gender and trying to date them at the same time is inherently…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:32 PM
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I find most friendships in general to be more liability than asset. Women are better than men, but I would rather hang out with any sex of any other species than be friends with a human being. That said, there’s a decent chance I’m a high functioning sociopath so I don’t know that my experience is very generalizable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:00 AM
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Speaking as a male, who thinks of himself as bigender or possibly a transgender woman sometimes but is also gender critical/maybe a gender nihilist: I am obsessed with screwing, but I also am aware of and acknowledge my desire to be seen as a woman and experience life as a woman. But I also imagine experiencing sex as a woman, and I can’t imagine wanting it less even if I was in a different body. So I don’t know that saying it’s a defense makes sense. The biggest impact of sexual connection with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:27 AM
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I’d say it’s sort of how like in theory men who only experience women through pornography could fetishize women, but hate real life women. If their only positive experience of men is an amalgamation of ideals rather than actual experiences, I can see how they would want to date a theoretical man but actually hate all men that actually exist
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:18 AM
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Romantic relationships require someone to trust and like you to an extent beyond almost any other social relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 10:46 PM
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Your other reply had me thinking you might be a frustrating person to deal with, but this one changed my mind. If there are guys whom you are still trying to figure out if they are a friend or more than a friend, I can understand the idea of giving hints. And women legitimately do have a different experience in the dating game. Nobody knows what high value is supposed to mean practically, except for signs that they look for (attractiveness, income). It's okay to not shoot your shot every time. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:30 PM
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Flashbacks to my ex. I remember the biggest comparisons she made that made me look bad weren't to other men, they were to the idea that I should always know what she wants without her telling me despite us coming from completely different cultural backgrounds. I think women that come from culturally homogeneous backgrounds tend to think this is like some kind of "innate skill of maturity" instead of just being familiar with their particular slice of culture
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:26 PM
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Yes, finally. I have stopped trying to definitely get into a relationship so I am able to reject people for anything that doesn’t meet my ideals. Not that I’m committed to that being my long term choice; I plan to get a vasectomy but I still think I want to have a family. So maybe things will change. But for now, while I am 25 and still getting my sea legs in life, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:29 PM
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True. In one amazing day on Tinder being shown to women, I will get maybe 15 likes max. In less than an hour being shown to men, I have 99+.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 05:55 AM
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It is a very tiny fraction of people anywhere who understand how to read a white paper, critically think about it, and apply that analysis to a live argument. It is an even smaller fraction of people who understand the basic structure and valid operations available in a rigorous logical argument, and the tiniest fraction still that truly understands the limits of logic and why a “logical argument” isn’t inherently true or valid. I only debate the most competent people in any given thread. Whenev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:59 AM
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I think deprioritizing romance for everyone is probably a valid and useful societal shift. On the other hand, there are health and emotional benefits to companionship that extend beyond what you can attain just by having your material needs met. It’s not really something you can put a price tag on (unless you don’t care about the partnership component at all, which is valid)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:51 AM
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I mean, there are certainly some components of ugliness that can’t be managed like this, but I think the majority of the bell curve can be covered. I have gone from like hideous and arguably downright disgusting with certain grooming characteristics to being somebody who gets called pretty and beautiful all the time, and gets a lot of positive sexual attention. I do have strong bone structure and relatively good symmetry in my face so that is a genetic gift, but I have a lot of other features th…
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 10:08 PM
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Eyebrow plucking, eyelash curling and general grooming, skin care, good haircut, well chosen and well-cared for clothing (like using lint rollers, ironing when appropriate), good diet, good fitness regimen, carefully chosen accessories, self-awareness of body language, positioning, vocal pitch, volume, delivery, enunciation, good dental hygiene, and attention to fragrance. That’s the stuff I can think of that doesn’t require surgery, and also won’t strike anyone as immediately super effeminate i…
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 09:29 PM
0

It’s the intentional creation of a new social norm. I think the easy trap to fall into here is to say everyone who wasn’t already doing this was a bad person and didn’t understand consent. It’s going to be messy and take time to figure out, and not everyone will catch up. But, it’s very common not to realize someone was manipulating you until after they nut and start treating you differently. Many people will consent to sex, but would not have consented if they realized they were being manipulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:55 PM
14

From a man, mostly anecdotally: Tend to sort people into boxes labeled “rational” and “irrational” even though most of them have no training in formal logic and don’t even know that it has limitations. Perfectly logical arguments can get you to do insane things. Get confused about the difference between criticism and aggression, between friendship and flirting, between submission and defeat. Are bad at recognizing how long they have been talking. Are bad at recognizing that the majority of the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 08:31 PM
1

Yes, but if you buy a lottery ticket and don’t have anywhere to put the money, because you didn’t even account for the possibility that you might win when you bought the ticket, you are also an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 07:46 PM
1

people still buy powerball tickets. a lot of them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 07:00 PM
5

Where are you pulling your statistics from?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:38 PM
11

They are also at higher risk of being murdered. Are you changing your claim then? Because I would agree women probably are more likely to find a FWB or someone they already knew as a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:31 PM
12

I would say this has to do with the fact that women are risking relatively more by seeking casual sex with men, so the “cost” in terms of risk is higher, incentivizing them to do it less. It’s not because they don’t want it as much. I also think it’s because the skill level of men tends to be lower. If you account for sexual skill (women like sex as much as much as men do when they are getting the same level of sexual pleasure) I think women are just as into it if not more, because it’s less wid…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:27 PM
1

Being a member of society doesn’t prevent you from starving or being abused. At best, it gives you a few legal rights, the right to emergent medical care, and a paper identity. There’s no guarantee of safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 07:46 PM
9

It entails dying without regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:28 PM
12

My health, my time, and a worthy death.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 06:58 PM
105

I think men recognize that they have a stake in society, but feel that the minimum basic level of opportunity or support that society gives them is becoming so small as to be nearly meaningless. I grew up in an emotionally abusive household under the poverty line most of my life. If I want to make my prospects better, I either have to work super hard and fight against the current of economic disadvantage, or find some way to numb myself to the fact that I will never have a better life. For a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 06:24 PM
1

No, no one is beyond help. And reformed blackpillers are one of the few people who can help currently blackpilled people, because they’re some of the only people who have actually developed solid counterarguments. I have to be honest. If you come back from the edge, you may find still find it difficult to relate to people. You may even never be able to relate to anyone again. (I find this unlikely and personally I manage to find moments of remarkable and absolutely worthwhile humanity in books a…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/20 11:56 AM
7

Yeah this happened to me. We met in college while I was homeless. Dated for three years. We both graduated, talked about marriage and kids some; she didn’t want them and I wasn’t ready to decide. We stayed together for a while beyond figuring that out because we were still in love with each other, but eventually I needed to focus on my career because providing a family is a priority for me. It was pretty messy, I think moreso because it was just life circumstances that did it rather than either …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:55 AM
1

Oof. Just described my whole last relationship. I felt this very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:48 PM
15

My first thought is that it doesn't seem like he really understands anything about what Islam says about women.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/20 10:58 PM
2

It’s related to the concept of negging but in a potentially much more damaging way. Women with low self esteem are easier to manipulate. For a certain personality type, this presents an opportunity to match with someone who physically or otherwise seems to have “higher SMV” so to speak. Some men will always go after the least self confident women because they see it as their best shot, some will go after everyone regardless of circumstance, and some do it when their own self esteem takes a hit i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:42 PM
1

I am insufferable. I need a broad spectrum of experiences to feel my best, which includes art, intellectual stimulation, a lot of physical activity, and keeping my body at the most healthy I can possibly make it. I make a point of trying to become an expert in anything that seems like it will bring significant utility to my life. I think I’m starting to realize that that’s something I want in a partner too. They don’t have to be an expert in all the same things I am - I want us to be able to bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:38 PM
1

Big city in Texas. And I trust that you mean that. Like I explained in another comment, most people if you ask them directly will say they don’t care about money and that what matters is who you are and what kind of personality you have. Money just factors into all these tiny little details that people don’t realize that they notice, but they do. Even personality. It’s a lot easier not to be uptight and anxious when you know you can spend a couple hundred dollars in a pinch and still not have tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 11:36 AM
5

Depending on how you do it, this tactic can look either like respecting consent and taking things slow so that you’re allowing the person space to make decisions and proving that you are trustworthy, or it can look like typical cult indoctrination tactics of operant conditioning aimed at getting the person used to saying yes to you. Unfortunately I’ve played it at both ends of the spectrum without really understanding that that’s what I was doing. I think I’m getting better now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 11:31 AM
1

I’m sure they didn’t think they cared about it, and if you asked them if they did they might actually be offended. They probably did think of it as “social”. But it’s way easier to be social when your friends don’t have to pick you up and drive you across town for everything, when you can afford clothes that fit and a decent haircut, having a cell phone and internet access, etc. Notably, I was significantly more popular when I moved 45 minutes away to an area that was much less affluent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:44 AM
18

My mom met my dad when he was hitching rides on trains, eating pecans he picked off the ground for food and walking everywhere. It wasn’t an issue for them either. It is partially cultural expectations. I’m able to date people within my economic class without trouble. However, my economic class is “almost homeless” and I really really don’t want to stay that way, so I have sort of a yuppie mentality and I have discovered I’m not meshing well with people that don’t have similar levels of ambition…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 12:53 PM
5

I don’t think trapping yourself into an unwanted relationship by unintentionally getting someone pregnant is exactly the move we’re trying to refine here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 12:47 PM
2

There’s musculature that affects the shape and hang of your face (on top of the fat distribution) and while skeletal structure is a very slow change, it is something that is improved by having a balanced muscular structure. Probably not something that anyone picks up on consciously but I feel qualitatively different after having some bone-hardening training and deadlifts for so long (which increase bone mass and density). Like I walk around feeling more solid. It makes a difference. Edit: Most o…
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 12:02 PM
16

No, we still do. Not relative to most people, but relative to men in better economic circumstances. And we struggle significantly more than men in those circumstances when it comes to trying to present as relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 11:09 AM
1

Generally the most common thing I see is just a “fixed” versus “growth” mindset. A lot of it has to do with growing up with little physical self-awareness because it’s something that’s become sort of...not talked about anymore? Posture, enunciation, vocal tone, face shape, musculature, skeletal structure, athleticism, emotional affect, skin health, communication skills, and empathy are all things that it seems like incels get stuck in a rut over and then allow themselves to believe these things …
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 10:56 AM
1

That’s what you choose when you try to be good. You don’t get to do all the bad things that are superficially and immediately gratifying. It is exhausting.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 10:40 AM
118

Im 25 now so only sometimes get counted as Gen Z and I’m at the very top end when I am. don’t know about others but when I turned 18 I literally couldn’t afford to hang out with girls my age. I didn’t have a car, a job, my own apartment, college admission, or money, so there was basically no incentive for them to know me. I hated bars and I still do because I don’t have enough money for anyone to pay attention to me (lots of other appearance characteristics related to this as well, it’s not just…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 07:33 AM
5

The cat thing is a strong argument. As a guy, I really really enjoy the ability to sleep next to my partner sometimes and would feel like something was missing from the relationship if it didn’t happen. But it’s a preference 🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:49 AM
1

We’ve tried the “eye for an eye” system for millennia; it doesn’t seem to really make anything better and does seem to make a lot of things worse
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 01:47 AM
2

A lot of their mentality is based on punitive justice so I think it’s probably important for all of us to stamp out that impulse in ourselves
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 01:45 AM
5

I disagree with the other comments. You can absolutely use logic to debunk these guys, and it’s one of the few things that will actually work, because they have already accepted logic as a fundamentally truth-preserving tool for decision-making. It starts with Gödel’s incompleteness theorem: No formal logical system capable of representing at least the primitive recursive arithmetical operations can be both consistent and complete. The “formal logical system...operations” is a fancy and very pre…
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 01:43 AM
-1

I don’t think women reject good men, or men they perceive as being good for them (which is how I would define a good man). But standards of good and bad are subjective and personal. Dark triad traits in conjunction with contextual KSA provide you with good operational awareness to do anything you want that involves someone psychologically or their attitude towards you. That includes getting them to be into you or have sex with you. Men with dark triad traits who have the additional assets necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 10:55 AM
0

She’s probably just boring
/r/seduction15/08/20 03:22 AM
1

Mods. You can have moderator bots and privileges are highly customizable as well. I’ve never had a server get big enough for that to be an issue so Google would be a better resource than me for that.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/20 09:20 PM
3

You make a new server, and you can post the link with some hashtags on different social media sites to find people who are into certain subjects, or just hand the link to IRL friends you already know and see if they wanna spread it that way
/r/ExRedPill14/08/20 08:54 PM
7

It’s basically a tool for group chats, kind of like slack. It’s nice because you can make channels (something like threads in a subreddit) for specific kinds of conversations, so you can have as many people as you want in a server if it’s a popular topic, or just a few cool friends if you want like a main squad to roll with.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/20 08:38 PM
2

Don’t bring it up. If you’re trying to date her or you want to be careful ask before you go exclusive or get physical, but if you don’t care and she doesn’t bring it up, she doesn’t care either.
/r/seduction14/08/20 08:37 PM
18

Find some good discords dude. It’s what I’m doing. Social media can be good or bad, but my experience is that curated group chats with a real community feel is a way better way to make friends.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/20 08:36 PM
1

I mean, if you feel like your city is small enough that this is a real concern, go for it. There’s nothing like the big city to make you feel like your problems are bite-sized.
/r/seduction14/08/20 02:33 PM
1

Just walk around looking sexy and stupid bro
/r/seduction13/08/20 03:24 AM
6

You also talked to her with her headphones in; a lot of women use this as a signal that they don’t want to be spoken to. This is especially true for public transportation
/r/seduction13/08/20 02:05 AM
10

It sucks, but also she went through some very severe trauma at a very young age from someone she trusted a lot. Now that I’m an adult and she has some respect for me I try to have harder conversations with her about the way she deals with people. But I can’t fix her. I just realized the only way to even start to make things better was to come up with a worldview that made me functional. Any regret or vindictiveness just holds me back. And I want to get as far away from my family as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:02 AM
8

Okay, so I don’t know how common my story is, but I will share it. My dad left before I have memories. I have one sister and just my mom. Until I was about 12 or 13, I grew up doing everything my mom told me. I had no friends. She raised me to believe basically that men are shit and all of them will grow up to be rapists, that sexuality is dirty, and that I should only listen to women. Basically I sort of started doing my own thing and redpilled myself through about the age of 21, when I finally…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 08:31 PM
1

That’s just who I see swiping on Tinder in a college town. I tend to meet women online and the ones who have really attractive online personalities tend to be internet obsessed (like me).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:25 PM
3

It’s hard to tell without actually reading the conversation, but it may be that she just sees you as a friendly work resource who is likely to help her. It sounds like you’re into her and you want to avoid misunderstandings, so while I don’t think she’s playing hard to get, you might want to consider it yourself. If you make sure to set really strict boundaries around your time and only help when you feel like it/are available (not just to be nice) then she will either get the message that you’r…
/r/seduction11/08/20 06:36 AM
7

I wouldn’t push it even if there is a chance, even though I suspect there is. If someone is a fwb with you it’s usually within the realm of possibility; however if they’re hesitant there’s usually a reason and in my experience trying to push past that reason only works for a short time. I don’t think there’s exactly a wrong answer here; I just don’t want y’all to get hurt and this kind of thing can easily lead to that.
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:40 PM
1

You got it; exactly.
/r/seduction08/08/20 11:23 PM
2

For an easy example, let’s take a man who always forgets his anniversary with his wife. He can be extremely busy and maybe each time at work there was a horrible accident that was very stressful and distracted him each time. The fact that the mistake happens twice, even given that there were extenuating circumstances, can be taken in some context to mean that he didn’t care enough to force himself to remember. Intentions are one important part of how to tell if someone is a “good” person. But im…
/r/seduction08/08/20 11:01 PM
7

Inner game development always starts with life goals and creed IMO. It’s far less important to think about what kind of life you want to lead than what kind of man you want to be, if that makes sense. Because the thing is, you are going to make mistakes. You are going to be wrong and miss things and, occasionally, hurt people, even if you don’t mean to. But starting with a creed lets you determine, to some extent, what kind of mistakes you want to make. It’s far less important that you avoid bei…
/r/seduction08/08/20 09:08 PM
7

Oxytocin and neuroreceptors in general do not work like this. Damage to the neuroreceptor doesn’t occur from overuse because they’re on-off. They can either have a neurotransmitter on them or not. They can be damaged if somehow the wrong neurotransmitter is jammed into them the wrong way, such as with overuse of certain amphetamines, but an oxytocin receptor is not going to be damaged by receiving oxytocin under normal circumstances. Orgasm is a neurological event. The maximum amplitude, and the…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/20 01:27 PM
2

It sounds like you’re making a lot of good moves. Proud of you and happy to hear it. I would offer this revision to your #1: People like to get what they want. One of those things is usually a sensation of power and control over things in their life. But different people want different amounts of this. And, personally, if a super rich hot woman showed up tomorrow that checked all my boxes and offered to give me everything I wanted, and somehow I had metaphysical proof I could believe her, I woul…
/r/seduction08/08/20 12:24 PM
8

The word “privilege” is probably too binary for the concepts people are trying to explain with it at this point. It seems more like it just means a qualitatively unique asset, but one that also prevents you from having other experiences which is an opportunity cost and a disprivilege in itself.
/r/MensRights08/08/20 02:06 AM
6

He did a really good job. Kept up the guard, (mostly) kept his balance, didn’t do anything that would make him look like a monster on camera. He definitely has around 50 pounds on her minimum, and more of a man’s body is typically lean body mass. There’s a reason boxing weight classes are 7 pound increments. If you hit somebody square and you have significantly more mass than they do, you can kill them. It makes situations like this much more squirrelly. I’m a pretty big advocate that men should…
/r/MensRights08/08/20 02:03 AM
1

Talk to her first. That’s not a hard rule though; some chicks are e-girls these days. You seem to feel like you know generally what she’ll want.
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:45 PM
2

It’s worse. Think earlier. Like 9.
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:49 PM
2

At first I downvoted this like everyone else, but I do think it merits a proper response. White knighting is not the opposite of seduction. It’s misdirected seductive intent concealed as actual empathy. Caring about somebody else experiencing violence isn’t white knighting by default. That’s not to say it can’t be that ever, which would be horrendous, because you should care about violence regardless of whether or not it gets you laid. But I don’t think that’s what’s happening here.
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:09 PM
2

It’s not meaningless at all. He’s saying it’s not a binary on-off decision, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a critical component of mental health. Jt absolutely is. Saying it’s a “part of mental health” != calling it a disorder. It doesn’t have to rise to the level of pathology to be a problem.
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:01 PM
3

I got you. Faking image is always a red herring regardless. I also agree that there's such a thing as diminishing returns. Focusing on shallow aspects of appearance too long will be a waste of your time and also won't really work. I feel like when I was where you are I started focusing more on making myself attractive on paper, and also drilling down goals. One of the things that is attractive that is a lot harder to quantify is purpose. It's clear when all you want is to talk to women, find som…
/r/ExRedPill07/08/20 04:52 AM
4

Well, what is “everything to maximize looks”? And is it a specific guy’s face or just like the concept and the belief that you’re not hot? I’m kinda of the opinion that looks can always be stepped up. There’s no ceiling. Edit: Agreed; don’t go for plastic surgery or steroids.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/20 02:58 AM
5

Well, I would try to zero in on the hot dude in the street in your mind. Is he different from you? How? I imagine he’s there as your mind’s schema of qualities you’re still not sure that you have. Is he a red piller? That would be a good place to start. Besides all that, dry spells suck. I feel you.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/20 02:14 AM
1

Everything is questionable. We have to convince people, and that means responding not to the most extreme versions of feminism or the most abhorrent examples of dehumanization we see from people who call themselves feminists, but to the most coherent version that is both most aligned with our own values and also the most logically sound. We have to understand their arguments so well that we can argue them as well as they can. I am a feminist as well as a men’s rights activist and a lot of other …
/r/MensRights07/08/20 01:47 AM
3

I would say there’s a nontrivial probability that they will, if other economic conditions aren’t drastically changed. I don’t think it’s happened yet and I’m not 100% sure it will. I think our society is already too unstable not to have some kind of drastic equilibrium-restoring transformation though.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 01:34 AM
1

It sounds like you handled things well pretty much the whole way through but she might have gotten freaked out when you sent a big message about your feelings right after. That doesn’t make what you did wrong it just gives off a certain impression. I would just give her space and kinda wait to let her make up her own mind. She will respond best if she feels like you’re letting her regain a clear state of mind. But also, there’s no obligation to stick around too. If she doesn’t know what she want…
/r/seduction07/08/20 12:47 AM
1

Like fourth wave or what do you mean?
/r/MensRights07/08/20 12:44 AM
-1

He asked why men get more quality dates from women than vice versa. That is the answer.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 09:18 PM
4

I agree that speech being shut down isn’t really good for any kind of global positive change. But we can talk about it anonymously, here, no? You might not be able to put your name on it while you’re figuring stuff out but we can at least be critical in environments like reddit as long as we keep the tone right.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 09:13 PM
1

You don’t necessarily have to say she’s cute, but it’s more honest and she’s going to pick up on your energy regardless. Being direct will make her feel less like you’re trying to play her. I say ask for her number because your boss will get mad if you try to flirt with her at work.
/r/seduction06/08/20 07:28 PM
-11

Having sex with women is almost universally more pleasant than having sex with men.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 07:14 PM
4

Okay so, I’m 25 and my rule now is to never ever ever get involved romantically at work if I can avoid it, but I’m at what I would call a “serious” stage of my career and I can’t afford to fuck things up. And that would apply at any age if a supervisory relationship was involved (don’t date your boss). But if I was just working a side job while I was in school, honestly, the specific job that it is wouldn’t really matter because there are other places. You don’t want to be trapped working with s…
/r/seduction06/08/20 07:11 PM
2

I think you hit the nail on the head. We are all monsters. But men are allowed more leeway to identify with the monster, and I think for that reason it’s easier for us to acknowledge things about our psyche like impulses towards violence, depersonalization of other humans and aggressive or promiscuous sexual impulses. For women, social and emotional control and status is more decoupled from the physical power they can exert from their own bodies, and is a lot more image-based (my assessment anyw…
/r/MensRights06/08/20 08:46 AM
1

I feel that. It’s shitty. My ex started dating me when I was homeless, up to the point of helping me pay for an apartment until I got a raise and I was able to pay for it myself. I think we both thought it would be okay because she was the woman and I was the man, and so that way the power dynamics would sort of balance out. It really didn’t. She was super emotionally abusive and basically acted like she owned me until we broke up. Who’d have thought? 🤷🏽‍♂️ turns out some inequity can’t just be …
/r/MensRights06/08/20 08:23 AM
1

That’s a good point, but is going to university necessarily a good thing? My sister is in massive debt because she went to college because it’s what you’re “supposed to do.” I ignored that bullshit and have zero debt, awesome credit, an associate’s degree in a field I love, and a better exposure to education than almost every Bachelor’s and Master’s graduate I know that I picked up for less than 500$ from half price books. I do need a Bachelor’s still and that’s a whole process, but I’m in a way…
/r/MensRights06/08/20 07:52 AM
1

I considered accepting there is no patriarchy, I just don’t find the evidence convincing. I’m not disputing the sources there. The claims that are backed up by evidence are things I have heard in other places, and I don’t know enough about statistics to properly vet statistical studies anyway so my vetting would be meaningless. What I do have a background in is formal logic, and the conclusions they’re drawing are not logically valid based on the statements they themselves make about the sources…
/r/MensRights06/08/20 02:43 AM
0

Read em. This is good info, and it’s important to remember context. The existence of inequities that favor women in certain contexts is not mutually exclusive with the concept of a patriarchy. Institutional power in general is relative to contexts. There are contexts in which Black or indigenous people have greater institutional power relative to white people. There are contexts where women have greater power than men. We want to have the perspective of looking at the broadest possible context, …
/r/MensRights06/08/20 02:18 AM
0

I appreciate your comment and your perspective. I can see some of how you've arrived at your opinions. Ancient history: Trump and Pence are both men. Slavery is also still legal, courtesy of the 13th Amendment. It just applies exclusively to prisoners. I absolutely agree that the only thing that matters is today. We need to be dealing with the problems we have right now, not problems that we imagine to be left over from the past. You are 100% right about that. I say AMAB because even if a presid…
/r/MensRights05/08/20 04:44 PM
0

I'm a radical feminist. I don't say that. But it's not impossible for patriarchal and matriarchal systems to coexist simultaneously within different contexts. Particularly since every single US President and Vice President ever has been AMAB and a man, I think it's heavy-handed to be dismissing the idea of a patriarchy outright.
/r/MensRights05/08/20 02:57 PM
1

Outlier white men. There are people of other ethnic backgrounds also in positions of power, but you're right that it's skewed. But it's also important to recognize that not everyone who is in power is someone who's name you'll know or be aware of.
/r/MensRights05/08/20 02:54 PM
-1

I’ve always felt super supported when I talked about my sexual abuses and rapes with women. (I’m a guy.) Men have basically never been supportive to me. The best I can say they’ve done is be really awkward about it and say “damn...sorry, dude.”
/r/MensRights05/08/20 12:11 AM
6

In my experience, if a girl has low self esteem, calling her ugly whether she shows it or not is gonna hurt like hell. If she has very high self worth, she might put up with it but women by now are aware of what negging is and they see it as a pretty depraved tool and compensation for deficiencies. Women who have average self esteem may or may not react with a sense of humor, but if she seems to not be bothered at all my guess would be she has zero commitment to the relationship. The way you men…
/r/seduction04/08/20 10:00 PM
7

the biggest trouble I had was believing whatever I had to say would be enough to get them to talk to me, unless I had an explicit reason to do so. this made me awkward upon starting conversation and it’s super off-putting. also, enunciation was a big thing for me because I mumbled. I think in general, calibrating your communication style to the person you’re talking to is something that takes a lot of practice.
/r/seduction04/08/20 09:09 PM
64

I mean, if the feminist argument is that men have unfair institutional advantages, making it “harder for men to succeed” would be a desired measured effect, would it not?
/r/MensRights04/08/20 07:40 PM
2

Be as honest as possible that that’s what you want. If someone says no or that’s not what they’re looking for, accept it with grace and don’t ask again or pressure them. Also, getting a clean STD test before every new sex partner will help a lot of people have more trust in you. You should also be able to recognize what common STDs look like during visual genital inspection. This is to keep you and others safe. Also, just be conscious of your actual feelings and if you end up falling for somebod…
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:40 PM
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