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Whats next? Eating as a manipulation of marketing to consume? Actually, yeah. People consume things like energy drinks, certain diets, supplements, and the like because marketing uses the desire to be happy and successful through the medium of looking like someone you're conditioned to think is happy and successful in order to get you to buy those products. But honestly that's beside the point and not even a fraction as powerful as the kind of basic desires I'm talking about when it comes to wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:17 AM
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cultural relativism disproves biological theories of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:12 AM
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You could replace the word "misrepresentations" with the word "representations" and the meaning of my argument wouldn't change. I'm bringing attention to the fact that all media is curated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:05 AM
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Still have no idea what that has to do with wheelchairs. But regardless, I'm sorry if my post was difficult to read. I'm describing a social theory called "mimetics" that by definition applies to everyone inside a social system, so I'm sure you'll forgive me if it's a gigantic generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:26 AM
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I'm confused- why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:17 AM
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Firstly, I think you VASTLY underestimate the power of what you're calling "status." I'm not referring to just the portion of men who think of sex as ladder-climbing. I'm talking about the much, much broader concept of "being a man" or "fitting in" or "having self-respect." Secondly, I'm not pathologizing anyone. I'm describing a social phenomenon that affects all men, women, and children. Thirdly, I'm not talking specifically about the desire to have casual sex. I mean, yeah, that's very closel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:52 PM
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I think the term you're looking for is armchair psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:24 PM
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I take issue with the label "weirdo" because I think these guys are acting on a very understandable impulse: the desire to validate their own existence by imitating misrepresentations of success. It's the typical little brother psychology: Big brother plays with toy, so little brother wants that toy. Is it because the little brother wants to have the same toys as the big brother? No- it's because the little brother, on a deep level, sees the older one as inherently cool and wants to "be" them, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:31 PM
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How do such people meet? I mean, there's the typical ways. Bars, friends of friends, group hangouts, work lunches. But I think the main way is "Pastor, I'm ready to have kids and bring them up in the Church. Can you find me a suitable spouse?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:12 PM
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Depends. Do you mean "easier to do" or "easier to do well?" It's pretty dang easy to find a partner who wants to get married, if you're looking in a pool based on a religious impulse, shared values, and family support. It's also very easy for both people in that relationship to join together because they want to be in A marriage rather than because they're in love with someone who is going to be the best life-partner for them, or because they plan on being the best life-partner for that other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:05 PM
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Coming up with reasons to hate women is like, a pastime for a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:10 PM
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Normies is a meaningless term. There's no special club. Coercing is what a creep thinks is a different word from forcing Women in developing countries don't think they have to please a man and agree to whatever he wants, either. The words you're looking for is patriarchal culture and religion, and oppression of women. Apparently you need to live in a society that oppresses women in order to have sex? I didn't say you're a porn obsessed virgin. I said you talk like one. You know what sex is suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:42 AM
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men is not a synonym for players "Forcing women" is a very sketchy way to handle anything in your relationships The idea that you can only get good sex overseas is bonkers. Sounds like a you problem Your conflation of passionate sex with young women and "tight" vaginas sounds like you're not interested in sex but the image and promise of sex, the way a pornography obsessed virgin might be "Western Governments" do not give a fuck if you're having sex lmao what planet are you from "losers" have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:03 PM
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- To anyone that declares that it's "basic biology" or "science says" or, god forbid, "evolutionary psychology proves" that anything happens, please never post on the internet again. You have no idea what you're talking about. This goes 100x for anyone who combines that phrase with "most/all men/women" or "The West." - Mrs Degree sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:32 PM
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I think Olivia Wilde gets a pass because Harry Styles is a famous person who usually dates older women. Otherwise, whatever media sources you're referencing don't seem to represent the general opinion I see online in any of the various spheres I've checked in on- overall, everybody agrees that it's equally sketchy for a powerful, rich female celebrity to date a guy who's less than half their age as it is for a powerful, rich male celebrity to date a woman half his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:49 PM
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I wish you the most normal life, Fredo. May you be a fit guy with a fit girl and wear whatever is popular for the rest of your life. May you always be the same as you think everyone else is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:21 PM
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If you're not attracted to someone, you're not attracted to someone. Of course. But "Obviously I'm out of her league because I'm more attractive than her" is just egocentric dumbass territory. Switch the genders and it's still egocentric dumbass territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:19 PM
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Fredo, feel free to think however you think most people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:03 PM
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Exactly. Reputation. Is that why you're dating someone? So that other men will think highly of you because they also want to be with that woman? Surefire way to live a shallow life, spending your time thinking about what other people might think about when they think of you. Life is way too short for that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:33 PM
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Lmao. "How dare you assume I would deign to associate with such a 5.3! I'm a 7.8, I deserve only a 7.7+" Dude. Get a grip. You might have had a fun time, but instead you just displayed that you only care about one thing. And it's not even appearances- it's yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:25 PM
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What's wrong with Bimbos? Bimbos are just hot women with poor critical thinking skills who put a lot of attention into their appearance. The opposite of a Bimbo is a Himbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:34 PM
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That truly doesn't make sense. "I want to have children" does not in any way logically result in "I want no women to be able to legally or safely abort their pregnancies" It's absolutely and, frankly, obviously belief-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:52 PM
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Not sure how this is all that different from just a standard fuck-buddy, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:37 PM
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This place is so weird. "Looks are everything, money and charisma don't matter!" "Success is everything, looks and charisma don't matter!" "Rizz is everything, looks and money don't matter!" every single day. And then the one poor person that dares to say something like "I think the dating scene is way more complex than that, and while being as socially adept, good looking, and successful as you can is definitely the best way to start, you also shouldn't obsess over those things so you become un…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:43 PM
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Cultural whirlpools, man. People are told something is important, over and over and over again, through symbols and representational media and moral codes, and eventually they forget why it was important in the first place (survival) and it just becomes this purposeless drive that's seen as desirable by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:59 PM
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Tbh I don't think it's necessarily disrespectful to the women. You can have an agreement that if kids are a consequence of the sex, he's still not interested in being monogamous. That doesn't seem like the issue to me. The issue for me is what happens to the kids. To grow up knowing that your dad has to split his attention among other families and you're not his priority would be pretty fucked up. That's unacceptable. I'm sorry that happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:20 PM
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CMV: "both genders" is a weird way of saying "people."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:38 PM
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What.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:05 AM
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so how, in your theory, do you account for the fact that lots of happy couples exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:01 PM
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Is this still a cultural expectation in most of the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:35 PM
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PUAs are stringy pieces of shit. They're not teaching men to "be more confident." Sure, confidence is a side effect of arrogance, strategic manipulation, and devaluing everyone around you. But that's like saying that somebody selling exlax milkshakes is "helping people lose weight." You know who gets women into bed? Guys who aren't obsessively memorizing the strategies of clinical psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:24 PM
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Because it makes conversation a one-sided interview. It reduces the person's value as a partner to what they're able to express in a few sentences, and it removes responsibility from the asker to display the vulnerability that relationships require, or to answer the question themselves. It's also as unromantic as it gets. Basically, it's a dumb thing to ask. Show what you bring to the table, and use your ability to observe what the other person brings as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:49 PM
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It's always embarrassing to see someone develop an opinion and then just decide that it's objectively true. Like part of their brain never left 1st grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:19 PM
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Asian, well-groomed, fit, artistic or athletic Pale, high cheekbones, thin, intellectual, tall North American Indigenous, long hair, clean shaven, any build Black, handsome face, fit, nerdy, fun, confident Height unless otherwise specified is unimportant. Age is unimportant. Income is unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:15 PM
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Let’s assume a few things. oh boy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:06 PM
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That makes sense. Continual effort to romance eachother is pretty much what you both signed up for. If you're not getting that from him, then I can see why you'd feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:20 PM
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I know we won't be. One of us is going to die first someday. That's one of the reasons we make so much of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:18 PM
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Do you need him to make you feel special? Or do you want to know that you're special to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:18 PM
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Most men just want a woman who is healthy. "Female Beauty Standards" and "what body types men will date" are not synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:04 PM
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I'm deeply head-over-heels, sighing-in-the-moonlight, best-friends-forever in love with my partner and we've been together for 10 years. Married for 6. There have been months where we didn't have sex. There have been weeks when we have sex every day. We take each other out on picnics by the seaside and we poop with the door open.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:03 PM
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It's a stereotype. People who believe it's true will have it verified to them constantly. Any evidence to the contrary will be dismissed as an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:58 PM
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All of them. They're all hotties.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:55 PM
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1) Who says abuse in nunneries is rare? It wasn't in some of the orphanages they ran, that's for sure. 2) Nuns aren't female priests- they're female monks. They don't just interact with altar boys every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:41 PM
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I'm good. You're very kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:40 PM
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Oh, at the same time as your reply someone made a suicide report on me. That shit sucks. Sorry to accuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:11 PM
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Did you submit a suicide report on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:52 PM
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Yes, they are horrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:52 PM
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there's lots of guys who don't want to date a woman who they can't make dependent on them in every way possible, so her having an income is actually a downside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:38 PM
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I don't get the whole number system. I think she's beautiful and sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:10 AM
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It's so fickle and meaningless. Rating women is more about what number they aren't than what number they are. It's a way to belittle and demean, not an objective measurement. That being said, ages ago I did the homework and found the most consistently highly-upvoted female celebrity on the major female celebrity subreddits, and it's Scarlett Johansson.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:08 AM
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Totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:54 PM
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"wanting money is hardwired into your DNA" - a person who knows nothing about biology
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:44 PM
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one that validates their pre-existing biases
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:23 PM
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I do not care. If he's too rich, that's a red flag even.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:04 PM
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<3 Thank you! Your English is very good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:55 PM
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For 1000s of years, women selected men for their status and power. For being the protector and provider. oh okayy /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:03 PM
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Please note: If you follow any of the Red-Pill or (insert loneliness cure here) gurus, please pay attention to this post. You're being preyed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:27 PM
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I put the entire lid down like a goddamn civilized person
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:00 PM
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Correct. A need means bad things happen if you don't get ut. An urge us just a strong feeling of want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:48 PM
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Usually when people end a relationship it's because that relationship isn't what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:13 PM
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probably because it's a natural urge on the same physiological level as hunger and thirst, even if the consequences for not fulfilling it aren't as dire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:03 PM
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Possibly, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:45 PM
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sounds like a fun game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:39 PM
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I know you're a 5'7" woman and you're pretending to be a man so you can publically hate yourself and try to get other people to validate your self-loathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:30 PM
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Tall women aren't considered masculine lol Tall women are incredibly attractive and lots of men, maybe even the majority of men, are into them A lot of men aren't interested in relationships with women who are taller than them, for the same reason that they're not interested in relationships with women outside of their culture: it's not something that gets represented often, so their perception of it (that relationship) as a desirable, enviable thing is low. In other words, they've always pictur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:11 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:51 PM
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Never in a million years. I've known a couple users, not close friends, but people I care about. If you're on meth, you're not yourself. If I was already in a long-term relationship with someone who began to suffer from substance misuse disorder, that would be a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:49 PM
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That's an idiotic comment and I hope that if you consider yourself one of those "logical men" you feel ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:57 PM
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Oh gotcha. Yeah, I mean that tracks. My comment isn't saying "men are more logical, women are more emotional." I'm saying "men are expected to be more logical and women are expected to be more emotional."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:56 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:47 PM
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Sure, the distinction between logic and emotions is a constructed one, but it is a distinction that many people maintain. You could use other words to get the picture across: pragmatic, practical, objective, goal oriented. Maybe to answer your question more pointedly, to say that "women are more emotional" is really to say that they are (*some women to some degree in some cultures) less compartmentalized toward their body-mind emotional reaction to possible choices, and also have higher sympathy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:14 PM
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In my experience women are more inclined to include emotional reasoning as being similarly valid to logical reasoning when making a decision. Men are more inclined to view only logical reasoning as being valid to decision making. I've heard people say this is biological, and perhaps it is, but it wouldn't surprise me if this was also largely a cultural thing, as men are expected to display high intelligence and decisiveness and low emotionality, and so focusing on logic, simplifying decision mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:03 PM
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Or, and hear me out, humans have always had sexual preferences that are a mixture of consistent bio-psychological drives and current trends, and you just happen to be noticing the fact that a certain fad of hypermasculine expression isn't the only thing women find attractive. In the 80s it was spandex and big hair In the 70s it was long hair and blouses In the 60s it was flowers and meditation In the 50s it was berets and poetry In the 20s it was romance and sexual liberalism In the 1800s it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:18 PM
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oh- you're 5'10'? XD I thought you said you were tall
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:05 PM
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People massively underrate how much height determines women’s beauty Tall women are considered more "beautiful" by most social standards, for whatever that's worth. most guys would pick a 5/10 5’4 woman over a 10/10 tall woman ^ this may be true, BUT it's NOT because: tall height being considered masculine It's not because tall women are masculine. Not at all. It's because the expectation set by media representation and general social norms is that the man is supposed to be taller. Men that have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:01 PM
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Meaningful to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:49 AM
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Being single is definitely healthier than being in a relationship that makes your life worse, yes. Lots of people find they'd rather be single than be in a relationship in which their love needs are not being met, for example. I find it very likely that an AI might fit that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:19 AM
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People have meaningful relationships with goldfish. But if you mean romantic relationships? Yes, definitely. If you can have a meaningful romance with someone who is catfishing you, you can have a meaningful romance with a complex of subroutines. The next question is can people have healthy romantic relationships with AI?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:00 AM
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Definitely option 1. I think the times in which people say it's worse are those where they realize that cheating was used in lieu of being honest about bisexuality, therefore there's an added feeling of "i didn't have the relationship i thought i had." nevertheless, I see them as morally the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:30 PM
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I mean, if an app wants to try it can, but honestly, people should do what they want to do. (In fact, the secret truth is people WILL do what they want to do, unless exceptionally barred from it). So if people need to learn to limit their options so they don't get all weirded out, then that's a skill they need to learn. But if they like being a social sexual butterfly, then power to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:51 AM
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Anecdotes are breeding grounds for confirmation bias, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:07 AM
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Has to do with mindset. I can't ever be with someone who is close-minded toward people different than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:07 AM
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A true libertarian, liberal, progressive conservative, neoliberal, or classical liberal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:24 PM
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Right wing economically, left wing on social issues. No contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:19 PM
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I'm not asking because you don't want to see a prostitute. I'm asking because the way you talk about women just has a weird vibe. Also the idea that prostitutes should be treated "like pedophiles." Not accusing you just genuinely curious if you would say yes or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:52 AM
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Do you hate women? Genuine question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:45 AM
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And that's what they usually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:47 AM
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I don't know that it does, but some people come on here insisting that the thing that stands between them and getting a girlfriend is the fact that they're celibate. To which I would respond, if that's truly what you think, a prostitute should fix that right up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:39 AM
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It is if the complaint is "I am the way I am because I don't get any sex," like, if that's the problem, pay the professional. It's pretty straightforward. The cycle is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:38 AM
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Assuming my wife didn't feel it was creepy or pushy of him, I would feel bad for him, and the roses would get a nice vase on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:11 AM
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Tinder equivalent of playing chess with somebody who is using a chessbot on the other end.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:05 PM
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Not if he was the right amount of affectionate to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:09 PM
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Man, I am trying my best, but I just can't manage to care how much money he spent on someone before he was with me. I'm glad that in this hypothetical we're much better matched and I'm not with someone who just throws cash at me, and he's not with someone who apparently is a really expensive date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:36 PM
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Does not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:08 PM
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So you think that the statistics will prove that people were having more sex before the sexual revolution? But don't have any statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:57 AM
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Can you respond to my first question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:47 AM
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"You would think sexual liberation would increase sexual encounters for all, but this turns out not to be the case due to rejections" Can you cite your sources for this? Also can you explain how rejection would not exist in this hypothetical monogamy world? Is this arranged marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:22 PM
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Then these women he's talking to aren't interested in timid and shy men. It's not the Testosterone they're after.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:37 PM
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Sure, I'll buy that for a dollar. Doesn't mean that if "you don't have high libido women will sense it and won't get turned on." Just means dudes with high testosterone smell good and musky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:36 PM
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Yeah, buddy, that's not libido pheromones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:34 PM
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But I have low testosterone, and almost no libido. Women can sense this. No they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:01 PM
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Fun fact- you can make up the difference between looking good and looking amazing by being a total fucking psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:31 PM
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Straight men should be taken seriously when they give advice about men, but not about dating men. Vice versa for women. Honestly, I don't really see why this is hard for people to understand. People should only give advice on things they have experience in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:03 PM
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Only 15% of 18-25 year olds use Tinder, the most popular dating app, and the numbers only go downhill as they get older https://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+of+people+who+use+tinder&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS976US976&oq=percentage+of+people+who+use+tinder&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30j0i390l4.14138j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:35 PM
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If you're on those apps, you're only participating in the "market" with the women who are. The whole world isn't tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:15 PM
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AMEN
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:14 PM
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Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:23 PM
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So that's called "emotional abuse."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:58 PM
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I'm just going to take you at your word that that's true, because in my experience it's definitely not. But let's imagine that it is. - "nice" is not an attractive quality. It's the most basic attribute a person can have, and doesn't mean that they're not abusive, inappropriate, a bad partner, creepy, or other negative qualities - "dick" is subjective and sometimes people just come off as jerks because they're really bold and straightforward, which are attractive qualities - If by "dick" you mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:39 PM
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That's my point. A lot of people are assholes in some context- especially they're with the girl you like. Why assume it's because they're an asshole that they're getting the girl? Why not realize that you might as well say "it's primarily assholes bagging my groceries" or "it's primarily assholes in Las Vegas."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:21 PM
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Such as seeing something happen and assuming they understand the causes. Lets say a girl chooses someone who matches her in lots of ways (sexually, intellectually, politically) and they happen to be a very straightforward and sometimes impolite person. This could be falsely attributed to "women always choose jerks" even though the fact that he sometimes comes off as a jerk was really just coincidental, correlative at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:00 PM
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1) Baader-Meinhof phenomenon/ survivorship bias 2) Online echo chamber/ redpill philosophy 3) False attribution/ convenient explanation 4) Small sample size
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:39 PM
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No, i will not be looking at other mammals to see how humans behave. There are plenty of humans. I will also not be accepting metaphysical "basic urges" explanations for observable reality. I will be interested in the studies that corroborate your assertion that more women have passed on their DNA than men. That sounds promising for your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:36 AM
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biologically the vast majority of men cannot be attractive to women lol what nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:54 PM
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If you start joining cultish online forums and begin feeling paranoid toward intentions of the person who dedicated their life to you, it's probably your own insecurities of inadequacy being projected onto your relationship. If you want to be settled for instead of loved, this is one way to make that true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:40 PM
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Hahaha i have literally not called anyone names but you've called me like 12 in one comment. You are too funny. Make an argument about what? I've said what I wanted to say. If you're this upset about it, maybe question why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:09 AM
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Lmao what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:34 AM
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Yes but nobody owes anyone else a lack of shallowness. It's only unethical if they're dating somebody outside their requirements and abusing them for it, or if they're bullying people who aren't in their preference range.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:02 AM
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https://passport-photo.online/blog/reddit-statistics/#:~:text=Reddit%20Demographics,and%20~32%25%20are%20female. Just look at the facts for yourself. If you think data is incorrect because you have a hunch, then your problem is a lack of rationalism and objectivity.
/r/AntiFeminists23/01/23 09:56 PM
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Emotional abuse can take several different forms, including: Refusing to participate in the relationship Shaming or blaming Silent treatment Trivializing the other person's concerns Withholding affection and attention Source: Very Well Mind ​ Signs of abuse include: Instilling self-doubt and worthlessness Source: Psychology Today ​ behaviors that are potentially emotionally abusive: Manipulation Refusal to ever be pleased Silent treatment Arbitrary and unpredictable inconsistency Source: One Lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:08 PM
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Read: Manipulating and emotionally abusing people is possible! What next, a "Life Hack" that "you can kick toddlers and run away before their parents know it was you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:26 PM
3

Purses that look like vaginas? Sounds like an interesting concept. Not my cup of tea but hey fashion is fashion.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 06:03 PM
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This is a humorous ad intended to bring awareness to the product, but since you asked... yeah menarche ceremonies are very much a part of human culture and history.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 05:36 PM
2

Can you give an example?
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 05:17 PM
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the desire for money which is intimately tied to the desire for reproductive access Again, I question this premise. I get that it is true in some cases for some men at certain parts of their lives, but it's not even close to being the only reason. I'd love to see some studies that support this. ​ Genetic Determinism is far closer to reality than people here want to admit lmao. Source? This just your opinion or?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:05 PM
3

Can't know unless you go, I guess.
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 09:29 PM
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You're right- I don't. But should fathers really have to work every minute of the day to be able to afford to have kids? Seems more like a critique of the economy than an argument for "women should be more interested in money than in looks or society will collapse."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:28 PM
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I thought we were talking about scientific innovation not being beholden to bloated real-estate investments by working full time? Doesn't an overburdened workforce actually inhibit scientific progress? No, "blankslate" aka tabula rasa, is not alive in sociology departments. It's used the way solipsism is used- as a mental tool to prove certain concepts, but it's been decades since it was the prevailing theory. Genetic determinism and tabula rasa are not the only two options, and neither are accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 08:54 PM
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I don't have kids and I'm not in a hurry to stop pursuing raises and higher paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 08:49 PM
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I guess I see your point, but "mens rights" is a political movement, so "against mens rights" could be interpreted as being "against the men's rights movement" the same way that "antifeminists" is taken. The better analogy would be if you could name a sub "againstblackpanthers" and see if it gets taken down immediately or not.
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 08:33 PM
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- how long do you think "looksmaxxing" takes? People go to the gym every day and still manage do literally everything else in life. Taking care of your appearance and looking your best is just a small time investment daily, not a full time job. - Men don't just build rocketships or semiconductors. They go to their day jobs. You really think there's no motivation for earning a wage other than making babies? - Traits are not "inherited" alone. People are highly complex amalgamations of genetics, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 08:27 PM
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Inappropriately named subreddits were neither the topic of the OP nor my comment.
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 08:14 PM
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Sounds like you're putting ideology before friendship and ability to enjoy art. I'm against war but I love a good war movie. People appreciate things all the time that don't 100% align with their sensibilities- that's how we expand our minds and grow. If you only ever watched plays that were against feminism somehow, you'd probably atrophy your ability for thinking outside the box and also not get to enjoy a lot of theater.
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 07:38 PM
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Subreddits aren't generally evaluated uniformly. If a subreddit gets a bunch of strikes against it, it can be banned. Just having a similar name or even roughly similar content isn't enough to warrant even-handed banning, both subreddits need to be producing similar levels of strikeable content.
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 05:35 PM
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Who cares who came up with the word I have nothing against incels. It's their ideas that people should avoid if people want to be happy, and using their language is the first step to adopting those ideas. Toxic masculinity doesn't exist, this is some psychotic idea. There simply is masculinity, it has good and bad contexts. Masculinity is not some ethereal trickster spirit that imbues men with bravery in battle but then also causes them to beat their sons for crying. You're thinking way too idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:00 PM
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Why do people get arrested?
/r/AntiFeminists09/01/23 11:05 PM
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It doesn’t describe a type of man but rather toxic behaviors. Men are the perpetrators of toxic masculinity but it is enforced by both men and women, Correct, this is all true. I shouldn't have said "to describe men" but rather "to explain men" these days I’d say enforced more by women outside of conservative social circles. In my experience and through observation it is enforced primarily by men, most intensely in conservative contexts like religion, and extremely intensely by conservative wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:54 PM
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Dude. - He is a nightmare for everybody. - Feminists aren't the "illuminati" nor are they even a cohesive group that agrees on anything - He's fleecing his viewers with constant off-the-cuff bullshit, not waking anyone up
/r/AntiFeminists09/01/23 10:36 PM
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Because they have... probable cause... ie... evidence... Man. I know you're smarter than this. Don't turn your brain off just because of a parasocial relationship you have with an influencer.
/r/AntiFeminists09/01/23 10:10 PM
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he is lmao
/r/AntiFeminists09/01/23 09:58 PM
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Ok, this is substantively stated and something we can debate. I don’t think OP’s friends or men in general being other men down when they self improve due to their conception of masculinity but rather due to compensating because of their insecurities around self improving/being lazy. It's not the conceptualization of masculinity that's the issue but the socialization of it. In other words, it's not the image of manhood, it's the way it's enacted. The image of manhood is actually often quite cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:52 PM
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I'm not about to argue about an argument with you. It's quite clear that "being insecure and bringing eachother down" and "trying to insult each other because they make them look bad" are functionally identical and any semantic argumentation about this on your part is just pissing in a waterfall. I get that you got all triggered when you hear "toxic masculinity" because it makes you think of feminists and that makes you angry. But not every discussion is a "i'm right you're wrong" fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:15 PM
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That's literally what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:54 PM
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How is it toxic masculinity Because it's literally what the term was invented to describe. It was invented in the 1980s by the father of the Mythopoetic men's movement to describe men who are insecure bullies because they have distant relationships with their fathers, and he viewed it as a roadblock to men's self-improvement and the men's movement in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:47 PM
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1) please don't looksmax. that is *ncel terminology. Just work on your appearance like everyone else. 2) If you've ever heard the term "toxic masculinity" this is exactly what it is talking about. A culture where men are discouraged from standing out or improving themselves, and this is reinforced by men dragging each other down with bullying or other tactics. 3) Yes, you're 100% correct. You have to overcome this social pressure to conform in order to be your best self. In some ways, it might e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:41 PM
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red pillers and incels are pretty much the same general group, but it has nothing to do with attractiveness. Also, I don't know where you're getting these stereotypes. Also, I don't know where you're getting this idea that there's a "feminist narrative" that men who oppose feminism do so because they can't get laid. Honestly, this sounds like red-pill echochamber stuff, nothing to do with real world.
/r/AntiFeminists09/01/23 05:21 PM
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"they" can't, huh? "all" of "their" boyfriends are like that? Okidoke. You started out this post citing scientific studies. You'd really support your argument well by keeping that energy up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:05 PM
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That's why they're the ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:03 PM
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In other news, new study comes out showing that theft is another way to increase your income.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:53 PM
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You said he was pressuring her to skip the part of the date where they could get to know one another yes so he could put her in a position to be date raped. no You then cited a bullshit statistic to support your case. I cited several studies and an article that explained the critiques and failures of those critiques regarding one of those studies. Unless you can provide substantial evidence that these studies are all "bullshit" you should be more careful with your words.
/r/AntiFeminists06/01/23 04:47 AM
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You and I know it's not the facetime portion that anyone is pointing to as indication of that. You're being disingenuous. Surely you have a strong enough argument that you don't need to resort to underhanded fallacies?
/r/AntiFeminists06/01/23 04:27 AM
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You can find tons of surveys showing that isn’t the case as well. Please do. Or we can look at actual official crime stats for most countries on reported rapes & see it’s less than 1% of the population. In the US alone the backlog for rape testing kits is so full the physical boxes take up literal rooms in police facilities. I guarantee you personally know somebody, probably in your family, who has been sexually assaulted and the crime was never reported. Furthermore, one of the reasons the surv…
/r/AntiFeminists06/01/23 04:25 AM
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Not via. Also i'm not accusing him of anything.
/r/AntiFeminists06/01/23 02:49 AM
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this article from BehavioralScientist.org explains those criticisms and why they're not necessarily legitimate this 2014 study indicates that almost half of all women have experienced sexual assault since or during college and this 2006 study indicates that almost 1/5 women experience sexual violence just during college If this had been a creepy woman saying "nah let's skip the part where we meet in public, you just come straight to my place where you're getting pounded" and it made you uncomfor…
/r/AntiFeminists06/01/23 02:45 AM
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(for the sake of this conversation I'm assuming you do know who is a woman and who is not on Reddit even though that's not necessarily apparent) While I understand your impulse to not too quickly judge someone, the fact is he's pressuring her to skip the part of their date where she can get a sense of him in a public place. Furthermore, 1 out of every 5 women in the US has experienced a completed or an attempted rape, so it only makes sense that on the whole that women are pretty likely to under…
/r/AntiFeminists06/01/23 01:24 AM
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yes, sorry. anachronistic. thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:08 PM
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Oh, I thought you were trying to say gender roles don't exist. "arguing gender roles" vs "arguing against gender roles" now that I know what you really meant... I still have to say hard no. SOME gender roles make sense in SOME contexts within moderation, but "humans are a sexually dimorphic species" is not even remotely sufficient argument for "billy likes tonka trucks, sally likes unicorns" much less an argument against deconstructing such needless roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:02 AM
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Are you being serious? Or are you trying to make fun of somebody?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:51 AM
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Speaking of which, why didn't the US civil rights movement focus on the rights of white people who suffered radium poisoning??
/r/AntiFeminists05/01/23 04:25 AM
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Confidence is viewed as admirable in men, demureness is viewed as being admirable in women. Thus, your premise. Except these are anachronistic tropes from the past haunting us and many people and subculture actively and constantly remove reminders of these kinds of silly gender roles, leveling the playing field for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:26 AM
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This post is a bit hard to understand, but I'll see if I can respond in a way that works for what your points are. - Some people assume that most men don't have difficulty dating relative to anyone else (this is pretty much borne out by the data- about 82% of men are in a relationship as opposed to 86% of women iirc) - some people claim that men are pretty much bad all around as partners This is both subjective on a personal level and subjective in the sense that societal standards are themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 11:49 PM
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Why would their head melt at a distance measured in Plancks?
/r/AntiFeminists03/01/23 01:54 PM
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*a small percentage of women. And So do a small percentage of straight dudes, there's just fewer female serial killers and child rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:05 PM
2

so tired of this racist af pitbulls:black people argument/joke/whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:15 AM
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Again, sounds personal. If you want to cuddle your mom, go for it. Sounds wholesome and she's not always gonna be around, so might as well get that dopamine now. But regardless, your post is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:18 AM
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No shitlock, watson. Same if you did that to women. Marriages and marriage-approaching relationships exist in the sex-libido context. I mean, we'd still have asexual cuddle buddy situations or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:15 AM
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Sounds like SOMEbody has some personal issues and is making themselves feel better by saying everyone else has them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:04 AM
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"I had a kink brought on by trauma and i'm here to reframe it as self-help despite the fact that it could encourage women to put themselves in dangerous situations."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:03 AM
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"i am 8 and my dad lets me drink beer and watch boobie movies with him too while he says my mom is lazy and dumb i love naruto and i agree femails need to submit to men men are better"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:39 AM
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This is massively important and not talked about enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:36 AM
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This guy doesn't know how widespread cooking literacy is these days clearly. He also thinks he's really cool for saying "western females."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:31 AM
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"Based" is such a dumb word.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:28 AM
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I don't care what it is, the name alone makes me hate it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:22 AM
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Eh I get what you're saying but I think what you're saying is that "resilience is attractive" because trauma definitely does not create attractiveness. It's a classic case of survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:21 AM
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"Toxic masculinity" is a term invented to describe how men put down other men. Feminism has adapted the term to include the ways in which men extend those patterns onto themselves and hurt women in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:13 AM
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Fecund, fertile, and fat. I personally think it's really hot in the right context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:10 AM
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THAT is how you construct an argument. Personally i like older women with strong brows and noses and such, but hey
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:06 AM
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"If you don't do this one specific activity that is unique to a handful of cultures on one holiday that not everyone celebrates, then you're dumb and should get made fun of" is such a small minded ignorant thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:00 AM
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I'm married and i don't think i've ever experienced one. Nobody is pathetic for who they have or haven't kissed, or when.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:53 AM
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You do you boo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:51 AM
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Yeah, meaningless as in "doesn't have a reliable meaning." People have a very hard time defining virginity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:50 AM
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If you're trying to assume i'm a woman, then not to worry. I'm sure you won't be cursed with female companionship during your lifetime, at least i hope not for their sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:49 AM
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Hey if that's what comes out of you when there's no rules then i guess you're just a sack of garbage to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:39 AM
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Oh, sorry. You're just shitposting your life away and didn't actually have anything to say. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:37 AM
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I'm doing neither, but you can't even come up with an original put-down much less a substantive response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:35 AM
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Sorry what facts? I'm more than happy to be convinced if you define your terms and show me facts. Otherwise you're just jerking off into your bellybutton and asking me to tell you good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:34 AM
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Was there a point to this? Also, hymen virginity is a myth, and virginity itself is a nearly meaningless construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:32 AM
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"Male evolution"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:22 AM
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It's very accurate! In the sense that, just like eugenics, it's absolutely bunk pseudoscience that fits some persecution-fetish narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:20 AM
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It's just another round number that looks cool to people who either care more about status than relationships, or just are using common vernacular to express the common preference for physically imposing partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:17 AM
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Girls are hellbent on getting you down? Not an insult, genuinely curious: are you/they in middle school?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:16 AM
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No. They age like individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:08 AM
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Incels "we're too ugly to ever get women it's genetics and nothing else if only women would have sex with us disgusting ugly creatures we would have a chance at happiness" looks absolutely 100% normal like every other guy with a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:07 AM
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Individuals. They age like individuals. Just like men. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:59 AM
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Doesn't matter. These categories are subjective. You can't just say "ok so i had sex but not because she's in my league" that's like saying "ok so we let all those people in the club but not because we're the kind of club that has those people"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:30 PM
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"Lets be honest about this scenario i just imagined"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:20 PM
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Only bisexuals are bisexual, women or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:19 PM
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If they're fucking, they're not out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:09 PM
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No, NOT "obviously." People say "all men" unironically all the time and you have a responsibility to say what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:56 PM
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Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:35 PM
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Kind of goes to show that his business model benefited most from men NOT getting girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:34 PM
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This is unfair because it is a blanket statement. When will people learn that stereotypes are wrong? Yes, i've talked to about a dozen creeps on the internet who have that weird fucked up mindset and use words like "degenerate western women" and "youthful appearance" and "just grateful for your attention" but i've also met one or two white guys IRL who were just really into asians. I also live in a place where there's a lot of philipinos and white americans living together so it happens a lot an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:33 PM
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I hear this a lot from dudes on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:47 PM
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*between those two points. Not in the middle. As that is arbitrary
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 05:57 PM
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If that toxic feminist also made a living charging lonely, insecure people to access exclusive content that consists of them making stuff up off the top of their head, and also posted constantly about how rich and badass they were in that dan-bilzerian/12-year-old-in-the-mirror way? Yeah kinda
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 04:47 PM
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It makes these men have no hope because they really are damned if they do or damned if they don't. Jesus, guys. I swear every day I see this sub I feel like I live in an alternate universe where people are somewhat nice to each other and don't think about this shit 99% of the time. Nobody is hopeless, especially not for seeing an escort. Nor for being a virgin. Yeah, sometimes we have life circumstances that make it harder or easier to get laid. Most people fluctuate on that spectrum throughout …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:50 PM
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Strong "all women are the same" vibes for sure. Also, not to put too fine a point on it, but misogyny and sexism are two different things. I can see an argument for this possibly being sexist but i think it doesnt fit the bill of misogynistic.
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 03:16 PM
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And your source is?
/r/AntiFeminists24/12/22 09:57 AM
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Idk why anyone wants another person to be obsessed with them. Does not sound healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:27 PM
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Two people i do not trust.
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 11:24 PM
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1) those are not genitals, thank god 2) on both men and women in places where that attire is expected, yes. Edit: i can't read your reply if you write it and the block me lol
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 11:23 PM
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Yeah i'm confused about the whole "exposing your genitals" part of this post. Where is OP going? I've literally never in my life seen anyone's genitals in public.
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 10:13 PM
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This is a truly bad take. Hate to be the bearer of bad news here. 1) when women wear revealing clothes in appropriate contexts like at the beach or at a party it's considered normal. This is not at all exhibitionism. 2) men wear revealing clothes all the time 3) women aren't "stupid" either nor does this have anything to do with intelligence 4) why would the police be called on men for wearing revealing clothes? That's ridiculous
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 10:00 PM
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yeah, like, as a kink. Same way men are aroused by dangerous women and risky situations. That doesn't mean women don't think of their own safety or value being treated kindly by partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 07:24 AM
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You don't think women are impressed by or value being treated safely or kindly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:10 PM
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We watch our fuckboi friends in action, mostly to learn Oh nevermind your flair is dickhead. You know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:55 PM
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Why do you think men are better equipped to see red flags in other men than women? In my experience, reality is so far in the opposite direction that this scenario is hardly imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:27 PM
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You're asking internet strangers to guess at the most intimate details of a person's inner thoughts? Just communicate with her and you'll find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:04 PM
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Nah, because the guy who wants but doesn't have at least has hope. The one who has what's supposed to make them happy but isn't happy has nothing to hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:50 AM
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I think there's a lot of truth to this- and I think you neglected one of the most potent arenas of this, which is pornography, especially amateur. Nonetheless, I'd like to critique the assumption that any of these personas are real, or that the relationships that ensue are particularly real either. I think these are most likely highly mimetic situations, and "having access to these opportunities" is really just "getting to look like you have what you think other people want" and is in no way dee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:10 PM
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Just them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:32 PM
1

For men, it's always _____ NO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:23 PM
2

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:16 PM
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yes, at the time. Now obviously it's 1 for me, 11 for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:08 PM
1

It was 0 for me, 10 for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:44 PM
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The truth. No need to change things around I like the way I am and I like them the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:21 PM
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Sure, I'll compromise. It's a theory. Or to use scientifically appropriate therms, it's a hypothesis (in science, a theory is a hypothesis that has experimental evidence to support it). A hypothesis is just a guess at reality, and needs evidence to be taken seriously. If you want to be intellectually rigorous, truth-focused, realistic, and courageous, you need to venture your ideas forward and test and even debate them. Otherwise you're just a brain full of guesses but no proof. So, a way you mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:59 PM
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Then they're not... facts... Facts are verifiable by definition. If you can't verify it then it's not a fact, it's a faith. I have news for you- you're a lot more religious than you think. You may not pray 5 times a day or go to a Church on sundays but you're happy to accept as absolute truth things that you cannot prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:40 PM
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If something is a "self evident fact" but you can't even imagine how you would prove it... it's not a fact. It's a faith. Are you religious by chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:35 PM
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lol @ "no u" You made a pretty strong claim. The burden of proof is on you. Otherwise, all you're doing is making up fairy tales. That's how logic works. I can't just say "elephants are purple when you're not looking" and when you say "you're just making things up- elephants are always gray" go "NOOOO YOU'RE MAKING THINGS UP."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:29 PM
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You just had a thought and decided it was truth, my dude. That's called ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:02 PM
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Mostly because it's inhabited by people who think like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:13 PM
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People who think like this are doomed to be assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:38 PM
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Both pills are lies and come from the same false *ncel mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:04 PM
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My take is that you can be poor, socially awkward, and/or ugly and still have a happy dating life. Just don't get caught in self-pity if you don't get exactly what you want when you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:02 AM
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The most ass-backwards take I have seen in a long time, congratulations. That's not how it works in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:54 AM
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I agree with a lot of the things I read against modern feminism and even Andrew Tate Sounds like you finally found your breaking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:28 AM
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They didn't pick shots of handsome men being manly to make fun of men, they picked shots of two doughy rich guys, both known for being braggadocios who are clearly posing in blue-collar costumes. This post isn't making fun of men, it's making fun of posers who think that there's only one way to be a "real man" and try to fake their way into that image while coming off as inauthentic.
/r/AntiFeminists15/12/22 12:22 AM
3

Oh shit when did that happen did I oversleep?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:37 PM
31

It's fascinating. Every day it's a different death sentence. I'll see a post one day that says "I've seen the ugliest, most socially awkward men hook up with total babes and it's only because they were upwardly mobile and rich. Being poor is a death sentence." Then the next day it's "I've seen the poorest most socially awkward men hook up with total babes and it's only because they had good bone structure. Being ugly is a death sentence." Then the next day it's "I've seen the ugliest, poorest me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:30 PM
2

Please explain what the irony is here.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 12:41 AM
4

oh riiiiight women are the cause of all your problems. My apologies, carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:36 PM
3

true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:35 PM
13

Totes. Why not? If you're on the fence, especially consider the following two points - sex work isn't just PIV prostitution for simple sexual gratification, it includes things like BDSM which can serve psychological purposes - sex can be hard to come by for men with certain physical disabilities
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:54 PM
9

I think it's unfair to blame "ourselves" for the causes of increased loneliness because it's apparent that it's an issue we're facing as a society. Separating us out like that decreases our ability to look for systemic changes that can help everyone. On the other hand, I think you make excellent and massively underrated points about who is capable of helping us out of loneliness (ourselves, primarily) and whether or not we should simply blame those of the other gender or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:41 PM
2

that doesn't have to do with gender either...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:38 PM
18

And this is of course how women like it. Stupid take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:34 PM
1

crowded house tonight looks like
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 07:06 PM
1

lmao
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 06:56 PM
3

"Blanket statements" is not the same as "logical absolutes." It's usually used to refer to stereotypes stated with no exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:25 AM
55

1) blanket statements are categorically wrong 2) you will always find examples that support any given position 3) generalizations can be true in general, but aren't by themselves proof of any theory of behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:27 PM
0

what... is the point of this comic? This makes no sense.
/r/AntiFeminists06/12/22 08:56 PM
2

This is probably the closest i've seen a "why men struggle in dating" generalization get to being true. I think it only applies to a specific segment, which is not mentioned in the post, but it's in the right direction. Long-term desireability isn't about being "alpha" or "chad" or "9/10" or "wealthmaxxed" it's usually just about being an adult who has their shit together somewhat and has their own personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:30 AM
2

"less than ever" and "more than anything" are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:11 PM
1

Hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:57 PM
4

Frequency and accessibility count much more than "exists at all in any amount"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:33 PM
63

- anal - anal followed by oral (?!?) - only rough sex - only male-dom rough sex - degrading actions (assumption of kink) - no foreplay - no attention to the g spot or clit - bad angles - bam bam bam bam - no attention to erogenous zones or sensual massage - barely any kissing or romantic interaction - no talking, only lame porn words
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:15 PM
103

Everybody can "afford" to be insanely selective. When you use negative adjectives to describe someone else's personal boundaries and standards like that, it just makes you sound like you think they should lower their standards so they'll sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:41 PM
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Yeah, I don't think it's that different now than it was 100 years ago. More sex overall now, but probably nowhere near as much of a difference as you're thinking. Shame can alter behavior somewhat, sure. But I would say it's really the secondary effects of shame- watching your family drop your 15 year old sister off at a nunnery because she got pregnant, or finding your aunt's body swinging from the ceiling because her girlfriend told- that really does the behavior reinforcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:16 PM
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Familiar with the mythology, yes. Not with proof. And- fun fact- shaming helps nobody and only further entrenches whatever negative gender divides already exist. Purity culture may run on shame from an ideological perspective, but it's not sustainable in the truly goal-oriented sense. Personally I think this makes sense as I'm pretty sure purity culture is not about producing an actual result so much as it is celebrating the methodology and hoping that the results corroborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:02 PM
–

Considering that it's much easier for women to lose their virginity, To whom, lesbians? This is a very ill-supported argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:32 PM
0

Gross no. Quit trying to find people to hate or buddies to build a little hate group with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:58 PM
3

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:34 PM
4

Personally I don't recommend taking any pills sold to you by strangers on the internet that are described solely by color. No joke though ____pill is basically just code for "toxic dogma." Observe from afar, learn what you can, but don't take the pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:49 PM
1

Sometimes asexual people discover that they are demisexual or somewhere on the ace-spectrum meaning that in very particular circumstances they experience sexual attraction but not otherwise. That could also be something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:15 AM
3

You give off the impression that you learn about the world from porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:11 AM
4

No, it literally does mean people she had sex with. Are you okay? I mean that literally I'm not trying to insult you. You're being unsettlingly hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:26 AM
1

There's a whole standard for equalizing (normalizing? whatever the term is) anonymous self-report data and interpreting it. You've got to control for certain factors and test different areas and so on. And although there's doubtlessly a slant-factor in self-report data, there's technically no incentive for people to lie if it's anonymous. Regardless, according to some studies, women have about 4 partners on average in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:23 AM
13

Yeah you basically just admitting to having no reason for thinking this other than your imagination and "stories you hear of women just going completely nuts." I doubt I can change your view because you never tried hard to prove it to begin with. Also, the fact that you think having sex="faltering" and virginity="innocence" kind of explains why you sit there and let your imagination run wild. Come back with statistical evidence and less subjective editorializing and maybe there will be something…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:59 PM
1

Pretty cool idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:15 AM
1

What would other birth control options look like? There are currently prophylactics and surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:06 AM
3

But didn't you know that uh a lock that can fit many keys naturally expands, keeping the spiritual auras of all the spermatazoa its ever touched which make it smell bad and also makes it a feminist and a lesbian and a liberal which is why only virgins who dont know how horrible i am at romance and dont know what they're missing should be able to get married because they're intrinsically worth more, darwin agrees with me btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:54 PM
1

It's usually men who are on here demanding beautiful submissive teen virgins and calling every woman over 25 a post wall hag. The FDS subreddit is like 50% this but with the genders reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:49 PM
23

Same thing any other person wants in a partner. His needs don't change based on your perception of his value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:16 PM
15

who tf is a "loser" I'm sick of people trying to convince others to view the world the way 14 year olds do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:46 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:55 PM
7

Online self-report surveys have low credibility, but self-report anecdote-based comment sections on debate subreddits have much lower credibility
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:24 PM
3

Okay. If your CMV thesis is You can't do X without Y and your argument is You're statistically less likely to be able to do X without Y in comparison to 1952 you've already proved your own thesis wrong. ​ Nobody is "an average statistic" by the way. Averages are largely meaningless when it comes to individual experience. Likelihoods are a more valuable statistic if you can get ahold of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:14 PM
0

It's 2022...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:03 PM
1

Got married at 22, as a virgin. Still married about a decade later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:57 PM
3

I don't think you know what the word "proof" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:39 PM
8

I mean, it's bold and unsupported statement that flies in the face of anecdotal evidence- presumably the only evidence it's based on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:58 AM
2

Having been been to many Christian churches over a couple decades i can say with confidence "only God is capable of unconditional love" is pretty standard doctrine. Ypu can't just say "their actions remind me of someone who believes in a soul therefore it's irrelevant what they say they believe." That's painfully disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:37 AM
2

- Religion usually tells us that humans are explicitly incapable of unconditional love - Belief in soulmates is not a prerequisite to a belief in, or an ability to have, unconditional love - Your flair is so stupid. Women believe all sorts of things about Islam. They can't all be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:17 AM
12

Kindness, decency, and loyalty only matter if a man can satiate a woman's hypergamy. uh no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:00 AM
4

If you “save yourself” as a male, you end up looking like a loser in your 20’s who didn’t have sex because he simply couldn’t get laid. According to whom? I don't see this irl. Furthermore you have to watch as more and more of your peers explore dating and sex, while you wait for something that isn’t a guarantee to begin with. Correct. You could also not "save yourself" which is a harmful and outdated poorly defended and defined conservative religious way to describe "waiting to have sex." If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:50 PM
7

I'd like to challenge the idea that this is unpopular. I'd also like to challenge this idea that it's become "common for girls to go on dates for free meals and then ghost the guy." I'm not saying you're wrong, that just sounds like a personal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:45 PM
5

The idea that you can take any person and just call them 'flawed" for not having some character trait you think is cool is not only indefensible, it's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:51 PM
49

Smugs: They have it all figured out, and want you to know that. They like to "say it like it is" and are convinced their way is correct. I can't say more because, uh, some of them are mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:48 PM
2

I'll give you an even bigger problem in modern dating: see all those numbers in your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:41 PM
43

PPD is one of the only places where "pill" minded people actually get to have real conversations with "non-pill" minded people. Don't ruin that with turning it into a pill-mill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:55 PM
0

This is all very made-up. Real people rarely fit these categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:11 PM
20

It means they're not monogamous, that's all. In context, if they're casually dating, they're saying "this is not the only person I'm seeing." If they're in a long term relationship they're probably saying that they're polyamorous without having to explain what polyamorous means.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:57 PM
1

Only 5% of twitter users are under 18. Don't be rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:47 AM
30

You just posted a giant logical fallacy and capitalized the first letter of every word. Not only is the first thing NOT implied by the second, even if it was you still couldn't claim that the fact that the second sometimes happens means the first one is always true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:54 PM
1

Maybe I'm just an optimist but I think kids are pretty good, on the whole, and realizing where the previous generation went wrong and trying to course-correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:46 PM
1

Do I even want to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:44 PM
6

I wasn't implying it had anything to do with men. It's unfortunate for anyone involved with that discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:56 PM
2

It's already a passe way of looking at the world. And it doesn't have a good, how should we say, reproduction rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:43 PM
10

I predict the worldview that produced words like "looksmax" will die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:03 PM
6

Be wary of any answer that doesn't qualify that women aren't a monolith and they all have different preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:07 PM
-2

Two thoughts: 1) All the white guys I've ever met who say that they need to find an asian girlfriend are racist misogynist incels who think that asian women are untouched by the sins of western society and will submit to him as head of the household and have childlike bodies. ew. 2) You're definitely right to be skeptical, but you're starting to sound almost paranoid. I don't think you necessarily understand the social cues of someone from a totally different culture as well as you might think, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:13 PM
5

Flat earthers always seem to get some sort of comfort out of the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:53 PM
3

I'm sorry to hear you're going through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:53 PM
2

How long you gonna say that for?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:18 AM
5

I've been in a 10 year monogamous relationship, so idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:33 AM
5

That's a circuitous-ass argument. Misogyny is okay because capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:14 AM
1

Very true. ​ My favorite part is that any time I call out misogyny on PPD it's immediately assumed, without any evidence or other context, that I'm a woman. Usually on Reddit people just call me "dude."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:22 PM
2

You poor thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:02 PM
4

I think it's shit advice like the other person said because you can really fuck up some people's worldview who would otherwise be able to be in long-term monogamous happy relationships. BUT if it works for you and it makes you and your partner happy, definitely do whatever makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:00 PM
3

I must have missed that day in biology. What chapter was that, the Possessive Instincts chapter? In Being With a Man 102?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:27 PM
3

I never did. I'm saying his relationship was shit to begin with. And, at the risk of being pedantic, that's still not what gaslighting means. I think you mean blameshifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:21 PM
-6

That doesn't even make sense. I don't think you know what the word gaslight means.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:08 PM
5

I see your point. I guess if I put myself in the place of the cheated-on, I can't imagine being able to even understand the "it was only physical" argument. That's kind of where I'm coming from. It just doesn't make sense to me when I imagine it, which is, I suppose, subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:59 PM
7

That's still emotional because you need to choose to cheat on your partner. You can still not care about the person you're sleeping with, but you clearly DON'T care about your partner enough to honor your monogamy. Thus, emotionally cheating as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:50 PM
-3

If you can’t deal with a man ‘claiming’ you, why even get into a relationship? Go fuck yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:36 PM
4

as someone with an actual mental illness, fuck right off with your sexist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:34 PM
50

100%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:33 PM
-2

Men who think like this are stabbing themselves in the back long before their girl stabs them in the back. She's not your. god. damn. property.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:33 PM
10

This sounds like trying to psychologize biology. It's an interesting story, but I think we should be cautious about trying to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:31 PM
8

physical and emotional cheating. I realize that there is such a thing as "emotional cheating" where it never gets past flirting or whatever, but if you're physically cheating you're doing both physical and emotional at that point, so I'm not really sure how it doesn't include both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:18 PM
11

I'm not sure I'm understanding the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:11 PM
1

lol well there you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:22 PM
3

"I don't think that man has ever been to medical school" - Buzz Lightyear Is it also insane that probably over 90% of the US population takes NSAIDs during their lifetime? 200 years ago, if you had a headache, you either shut up about it or you went to the local ferrier and he stuck a hot poker in your eye socket until you calmed yer sorry ass down. Kids these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:52 PM
3

I trust people enough to get to know them, and trust them more and more as I do. Intimacy and trust go hand in hand, so as I let them see more of me, i see more of them, and deeper we go exploring the galaxies of our bodies and minds. Trust is vital in a relationship and I could never begin one if I believed everyone was in it for themselves (turns out many aren't but if you treat them that way they respond that way)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:34 AM
4

I think that when you make statements like this (especially without statistics) you are basically just explaining how you view people. Not necessarily that you view everyone as meat but that you have an inherently pessimistic and probably opportunistic view of humanity. Not everyone thinks like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:28 AM
7

If you want to dehumanize half of all humanity, it's because you're a sopping shitwad of a person and no amount of projection or blameshifting is going to make that okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:26 AM
5

It is definitely fashionable. Don't go by fashion, tho. Go by your own sense of style. If that's androgynous, then do that! Personally i dig all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:05 AM
6

This terminology is so gross. You want to date a misogynist (of any gender) keep thinking in these terms. You want to have a real, substantive relationship with someone who views you as more than a piece of meme-shaped meat, then you've got to spit up the pill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:53 AM
1

100%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:54 PM
1

Please never type anything again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:11 PM
2

Black- complete bullshit that appeals to people on the more melancholy side of things Red- complete bullshit that appeals to people who think very highly of their intelligence but don't actually know what they're talking about Purple- complete bullshit that appeals to people who view themselves as unbiased but don't really know when to cut their losses Blue- complete bullshit that is very easily taken too far like all the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:56 PM
2

I'd be curious to know the results no matter where this takes you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:26 AM
9

You can have home field advantage. Feel free to give me three of your choosing. I'm genuinely curious. Keep in mind your previous terms were things like "lovable losers" and "high value men"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:39 AM
3

Speak for yourself i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:36 AM
17

With respect, unless you have actual data relating to measurable and definable dimensions, you don't have a macro view, you just have a mythology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:51 AM
34

I just try not to think of people in terms of value that can be put into numbers. Every relationship is uniquely strange, with the potential to be beautiful. People aren't numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:22 AM
15

I didn't make a change, I just got lucky with someone who was patient enough with me for me to realize that I'd been botching it and/or missing signals from others for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:11 AM
2

It's interesting that you assume i'm a woman- also interesting that you assume that if I'm a woman then I must have less of an understanding of what an average guy looks like. Listen man you don't have to believe me I'm just telling you the truth in what i've seen. It's at least 50/50 and ime it's closer to 70/30 girls pursuing guys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:56 PM
-3

Mostly average men and attractive women, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:37 PM
1

or the vast majority of men, since we are not wanted enough to be pursued, so we need to cast out a wide net. I have a hard time with this premise. I have no doubt that some men experience. I have no doubt that in some cultures this may be true, but from personal experience I see more women pursuing men than men pursuing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:23 PM
0

Women don't have types either. We're all just people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:32 PM
5

Because no philosophy that ends in "-pill" has ever been right about more than a couple made-up anecdotes on some myopic forum online, regardless of what color it fancied itself. Women, and this surprises some people, are humans. And humans don't all act the same or make the same choices for the same reasons or have the same brains or similar backgrounds or have, frankly, anything about them that's predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:14 PM
1

Not even close to what i said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:41 AM
5

I know. A man isn't a different species than a woman. He's just an adult human, and depending on the culture that he's in (and those cultures can get very specific), there are some masculine roles he can choose. Choosing those roles usually makes life easier for him- that's why they're there. But ultimately he has to choose those roles. And he has to teach himself. It makes it easier to have a good role model, definitely. But masculinity gurus are anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:19 AM
5

The kind of men who think that boys can't learn how to be adults from women aren't the kind of men that should be looked up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:09 AM
3

According to this dude, incels think it's their looks, but ReD PiLlErS know it's Women that are To Blame. Truth is it's his shit-ass personality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:01 PM
2

If you have a word like incel And another word like the n-word One of them is clearly worse And its the one you can't even say
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:59 PM
4

It's just catchier than misogynist, which is why you've personally heard it so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:43 PM
3

I think people who talk like that are stupid, in general. And it doesn't really matter what that saying even means.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:04 PM
14

Anything on the internet that calls itself a -pill is bad for you is another good rule of thumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:24 PM
4

It's all bullshit and the deeper you look into it the more it rots your brain. Just be the person you want to be, be with the person you want to be with, and don't reduce anyone to a set of numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:35 AM
1

This is simply false. Not only do people's opinions on what constitutes an attractive face differ wildly, but many people, including myself, don't simply care or think first about whether or not a face is considered attractive. It's just one of many many factors that go into someone's general aesthetic, which itself only matters if I'm viewing them as a potential romantic or sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:47 AM
1

yeah, women feel that way often with how they are treated in society too. It's difficult to exist when there is injustice and abuse toward people like you.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 09:22 PM
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I mean, it's easy to say "dude that sucks" when someone says "Man I'm just so depressed- I don't feel like I'm allowed to look like me or have emotions or hobbies, and I'm worthless in society's eyes unless I'm seen as being sexually desireable, which is exhausting to keep up with. But if they say "Fuckin 6'4" Jamal mogged me in front of this rice-patty 8.5 at the bus stop- It's only a matter of time before I go rope or go postal if I keep getting snubbed by worthless roasties while I'm not yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:26 PM
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I think the problem is that a lot of the spaces they were gaining presence in were social-media based, which does allow for a lot of visibility but doesn't have a lot of room for substantive responses. Take Reddit for example. If you were to go to r/braincels or whatever and respond to what they were saying, you'd get downvoted, dogpiled, and eventually banned. It only becomes a space where they speak to themselves, not where they listen or are listened to. Note that this lack of response-abilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:18 PM
1

This sub isn't like red pill where we break women down to try and understand them with the goal of fucking them. You'd be surprised. For a sub that's about men not needing women, there is a shocking amount of red-pill and incel-style attempts to understand women and decode the dating game in the comments.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 10:53 PM
-1

Totally agree. This needs to be said more often here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:56 PM
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I agree, although I can't think of any recent examples of liberal men specifically denying conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:14 AM
5

Um. ​ Fucking what.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:58 PM
13

lol this guy ^
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:56 PM
5

You just disagreed with me and then proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:28 PM
9

And so can women. And again, this isn't actually what I'm talking about, as you can see in my second sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:21 PM
15

I don't know what that has to do with "men in general" but that's irrelevant. I'm saying I hear both lots of "as a liberal woman I don't like conservative men" and "as a conservative man I don't like liberal women."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:56 PM
7

I hear both in equal measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:49 PM
4

I think an important distinction to make is the difference between being attracted to: a "bad boy" because they are "bad" in the sense of being abusive or narcissistic or reckless or whatever, and being attracted to a "bad boy" including all those attributes because they want something that is implied by those attributes. Another way of saying it is this: if a woman likes the most stereotypical version of this bad boy you've proposed (muscular, scarred, dominant, self-obsessed, criminal, etc) do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:22 PM
6

This definitely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:29 PM
1

I've had many cross-gender friendships that had none of the cons you've mentioned. This may sometimes be a general criticism of some cultures, but it's not universally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:28 PM
-1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:15 PM
1

I don't get why guys think they can say all this about career women but then have a career themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:06 PM
2

Naturally that's going to be a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:35 AM
2

The Gay Science!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:43 AM
3

Totally agree. You might enjoy some Nietzsche.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:53 AM
7

Pros: some really well-informed observations of internet cultures in here, some well-rounded exposure to different subgroups, and some strongly stated theses. Cons: loooots of bullshit as soon as you try to come to any conclusions with your data. This one is my favorite: Simping culture is coming to an end, more and more men are coming to realise the dangers of porn and how it turns men into boys, cucks even. and this one Marriage and monogamy will cease to exist in the west With all due respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:58 AM
2

I'd love to hear any criticisms you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:19 AM
5

Yeah, these internet communities, the ___pills and even the MGTOW and FDS communities do something very similar to conspiracy theorists and cults. They come up with stories that are impossible to disprove and help explain some sort of human suffering, and then they come up with a whole language and framework so all of their thoughts and conversations seem to prove their worldview right. It's toxic as all hell and fundamentally encourages extremism. However, as you point out, that isn't to say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:33 PM
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attractiveness includes personality. They are inextricable. Do you mean to say that personality doesn't help if you're not pretty?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:06 AM
2

Absolutely. Not even difficult. It's the personality to pull it off that would take work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:30 PM
6

People seem to be generally attracted to people who have goals and meet them. The puncher will actually be more attractive because they're able to show initiative and are focused on their own desires, which shows that they are more likely to be effective at taking care of someone else's too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:16 PM
5

We're a man/woman marriage, and we check in with each other regularly about this- we've both agreed that we're sharing finances 50/50 (though sometimes we switch to a sliding scale if one of us is temporarily making much less. So if I'm making 50% more than they are I will pay 3/5 of the bills for example). We don't have kids but we also share 50% of the housework, garden, etcetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:15 AM
9

My spouse and I are 50/50 and really happy with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:20 PM
3

lmao you're 31 dude chill. You're not old, you probably don't even know what the word "psychotic" means, you're not senile, past your prime, and if you go out in the middle of the street to start fights with random strangers that just means you're a criminal and an idiot, not batman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:00 AM
4

It literally does not matter as long as you're making informed, mutually consented and respectful decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:31 PM
2

Finally. I'm sick of that bullshit talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:29 PM
59

If I find myself thinking of women in terms of Stacys and non-Stacys... I should probably rethink my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:37 PM
22

That's because some men don't show their creepy side until they're alone with a woman. I think if you're a straight dude you should probably double whatever percent you assumed at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:34 PM
0

Uh... that's a pretty broad generalization there.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 04:38 PM
6

Because you want to.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 03:51 PM
-1

There's just a lot going on here. Orientalism and fetishization of Thai women, as if the thing that makes them attractive isn't them as people, but them as "not Western." Toxic nostalgia in wishing for something "traditional" but only using that word to invoke a single aspect of tradition that seems beneficial, not really intending the breadth of that term. Sexism in asserting that a woman has greater appeal if she is uneducated. Misogyny and the potential for spousal abuse in thinking that you …
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 02:27 AM
0

oh boy.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 10:47 PM
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That overall, profanity is unladylike and that a woman ruins her reputation by repeatedly using these words in her vocabulary. Is this the 1800s?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 09:25 PM
1

fair.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 08:00 PM
2

There's a difference between reporting anecdotes and personal wisdom and creating an echo-chamber of negative thought- which becomes unrealistic because it is an echo chamber, which amplifies certain experiences, even if those initial experiences were true.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 07:06 PM
1

This is a fair take-down of these as insults. However, I think the analysis of the term "incel" is missing something. Incel is more than just a reference to the literal origins of the word. It's meant to invoke the culture of incels, which has made a massive wave on internet forums. It's a culture in which men collectively contribute and subscribe to a pessimistic vortex of negative stories of women, fatalistic views on life, and reductive explanations of love, hidden behind the facade of "self-…
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 05:09 PM
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Nope, sorry. Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:31 AM
4

what happened?
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 02:03 AM
8

?
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 01:58 AM
0

What a depressing, exhausting way to live.
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 06:34 AM
7

Set verbal boundaries. If they're not respected, leave.
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 06:29 AM
2

I feel like it has to do with the _pill/incel worldview that that word is used to prop up. Even if contextually you're trying to use it to describe a specific person's specific behavior, you're still using a word that's meant as a generalization and stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:51 AM
1

Well, from personal experience I think the vast majority of the benefits are and should be in the "both" section. But in the man-only section there should at least be - potential for fatherhood - feminine perspective on style and homekeeping - opportunity to engage with traditional roles like providing and protecting
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 02:22 AM
4

hey, batman. hows it going saving men from those evil women?
/r/MensRights01/07/21 10:12 PM
2

So many reasons. First of all, there's nothing in the man section of the diagram, which doesn't make any sense. Men get as much out of being in a healthy, balanced relationship as women do. Second of all, the women section isn't realistic either. It feels like it was written by someone who watches old movies and has never been in a relationship. It's unhealthy and unfair. Third of all, what is meant by status?!
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 03:17 AM
12

There's a 31 year old woman out there thinking the same thing with the genders reversed.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 02:44 AM
1

Me: "you're wrong" You: "in other words I'm right!"
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 10:13 PM
2

Well you're not doing a very good job. I say that with sincerity and respect. Men don't need more of your problems vomited out at women. Your hatred is not just hurting you, or the women you hate- it's hurting all of us. If you don't get help, you're just going to make everything worse. You're not batman. You're not the joker. You're not a vigilante saving everyone from the "feminazis." You're, like many of us, just a sad, confused, angry person who hasn't addressed the ways they were hurt as a …
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 07:31 PM
3

You actually sound really unhappy and full of anger and unresolved trauma.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 07:21 PM
3

Have you attempted to get professional assistance with your childhood trauma? I really recommend it.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 07:06 PM
2

I'm sorry you were bullied as a child.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 06:58 PM
1

I'm so sorry to hear that- that sounds awful. If I'm understanding you correctly- your mother's friends thought women are superior, and their daughters annoyed you? Then, if I understand, you broke their bones?
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 04:26 PM
1

That's fascinating. What happened?
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 03:44 PM
-2

Why you talk like a bully from a PG film? lol
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 02:50 PM
1

Damn every single thing you've said is wrong.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 02:49 PM
2

This diagram is stupid
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 06:53 AM
1

lol swing and a miss. Would you like to try again?
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 01:40 AM
1

Give what? You haven't given anything. You can't decide whether or not you want me to be upset or impressed with your relationship status, you can't even use your big boy words, and you've been wrong every time you've assumed something about me. Oh, and for the record, confident, stable men have multiple girlfriends all the time, and they don't have to move to a foreign country to do it. Anyway, have fun.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 10:34 PM
1

C U N T. spell it out. It's got a U in it. Don't be shy. And I didn't ask, nor do I care, about your personal life. Again, the fact that you *think* I care says more about you than it does me.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:16 PM
1

Lol you know nothing about me, much less how I look. And I didn't ask where you live or what you do- the fact that you need to tell me that you're "living the dream" says a lot. Please extend my congratulations to each of your two girlfriends for figuring out a way to only have to deal with half an asshole.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 04:49 PM
2

There's no end to the hateful words people will come up with to describe otherwise normal things.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 05:27 AM
1

you sound like you've been hurt a lot in your life. I'm sorry to hear that. but do be a man and if you're going to call a feminist a cunt just for reminding you of people you don't like, spell it out like you mean it.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 04:40 AM
1

Why would I not want to help someone?
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 03:57 PM
9

Oh, sorry. Thanks for letting me know- if you need any help, just holler.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 05:25 AM
0

It's kinda like incel ideology was wrong from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:42 PM
-3

But I have... Been around these forums for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:17 PM
11

Red Pill is a hollow, baseless philosophy that at best peddles regular yet rebranded self-help of basic utility, and at worst a sickening farce of reality that breeds hatred and violence toward self and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:10 PM
1

uh, I guess as a challenge to the stated belief: some women are conditioned to like aggressive men through trauma bonding and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:16 PM
-9

Whichever one identifies as an incel or listens to _pill ideology- they're screwed. Anyone else with a reasonable and well-adjusted view of the world and a minimal amount of confidence should be just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:22 AM
0

"We'll see how much I know." no no. Not playing games.
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/21 05:04 PM
0

You're not answering my question. But I'll go first. I've been described as a feminist, most of my friends are feminists, I spend time on feminist forums online, and working with local social justice events, but more importantly I've read feminist literature and taken classes with them on the syllabus, all the way back to exerpts of simone debouvoir. And will you now answer my question?
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/21 04:06 PM
-2

How much do you actually know about feminism?
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/21 03:50 PM
3

So there's a lot going on here. Not in a bad way. But I can't tell you the whole history of the world and explain everything in a Reddit comment. In fact, if you think you can understand all of feminism from a meme or a couple people saying "yeah feminazis" in a web forum then you should probably reexamine your knowledge intake. That being said, I can provide you with a story that helps explain what you're talking about. Let's say that there's a mythical realm where women aren't allowed to vote,…
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/21 12:13 AM
5

Not only is what you're saying illogical, it's also not the way feminism as a study views the world. First of all, yes, absolutely, a system can simultaneously "favor" and harm something. For example, you can grow up in a position of power but be alienated by it.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 11:19 PM
2

I mean, that's certainly much closer to what feminism is than your original statement. Still some strawman going on. For example, just because the system is set up to promote a power dynamic that favors men, doesn't mean men can only "sometimes be harmed" by the system. In fact, the system defacto harms men.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 11:00 PM
-5

WOAH so now men can disgrace their entire gender by not living up to your ideals? What the fuck dude. Super fucking shitty.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:55 PM
-10

You're genuinely hurting and insulting men just for pointing out that something you've said is factually wrong. You're also assuming he's doing it to please women. Pretty shitty stuff right there.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:38 PM
4

So... according to you... it USED to exist, but stopped existing all of a sudden once women started voting at rates of like 4% higher than men in the US? Isn't that like saying racism ended when the slaves were freed? Also, don't think that it's escaped my attention you've completely changed the topic because you couldn't argue that the core tenets of feminism are anti-men.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:35 PM
2

" it makes the statement that men never suffer from discrimination of any kind" No it doesn't... not even a little tiny bit. Not even in the definition you gave for it. Also, academic philosophers and historians that came up with the modern notion of "patriarchy" weren't unaware that the world is a place with different countries and classes. It's a economically, geographically, and historically situated concept.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:19 PM
-6

I thought you were going to tell me about elements that are anti-male? Not the fact that historically men more easily reach places of power.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:13 PM
-20

People have called me a feminist. I've known many people who called themselves feminists. I hang out in feminist spaces online. It's really not "this meme in a nutshell." Not even a little bit.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:09 PM
-6

You don't get out much do you
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:07 PM
-30

oh? what core elements. Please.
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 10:06 PM
-43

Oh gosh this isn't what you actually think feminism is about do you?
/r/AntiFeminists09/04/21 09:59 PM
0

This kind of mindset is indicative of an untrustworthy personality. If I say "hey, wanna see a magic trick? Give me a 20" and you do, then I run off with it, you're not gonna say "well I gave it to him, he didn't actually steal it."
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/21 08:12 PM
-18

What she did was tacky... what he did was theft.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/21 05:57 PM
1

Yeah no I get that. I guess I'm just easy to bait. I feel like somebody has to say something.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/19 02:16 PM
1

Would you care to explain the difference? I'm unfamiliar with this term.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/07/19 09:24 PM
0

Good to know your generalized assumptions aren't limited to transphobic bigotry.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/07/19 08:16 PM
2

Are you saying "Liberal feminism" as opposed to a different school of feminism, or?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/07/19 08:15 PM
2

How about "gender is not a follower/leader dichotomy" regardless of which gender gets which role.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/07/19 08:15 PM
1

Wow, ok, this is not true. I understand that you might be jaded, cynical, hurt, or simply love to generalize, but this kind of thinking only perpetuates the lack of trust in relationships that leads to more broken hearts in the world. Men are not a single block of people who all think the same way, and although some might think like this for various reasons, it is completely unfair to generalize all of them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/07/19 06:25 PM
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