trojan25nz Archive

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-3	Becomes misandrist, proves the ones who point out misandry are misogynistic on a man hating sub. Incel They have women only communes where men are not allowed. You wanna give context as to why that’s the case? You wanna know why conservatism pushes modesty standards more on women? It’s not about laws and power, it’s about real behaviour and trying to control for the ease of violence produced by men Men fight, take, and will kill if we can justify it Some dudes don’t try very hard to justify it. Having a woman merely talk back, have a backbone or not dully obey the master is enough for violent bac…	/r/AntiFeminists	13/11/21 01:31 AM
1	Becomes misandrist, proves the ones who point out misandry are misogynistic on a man hating sub. Incel Context matters Saying that to your 12yo neighbour when she just came out of the shower is pretty bad	/r/AntiFeminists	13/11/21 01:25 AM
3	Becomes misandrist, proves the ones who point out misandry are misogynistic on a man hating sub. Incel When you harass non-public (random) users by pulling them into your hate sub? Prob frowned upon, specifically by reddit admins	/r/AntiFeminists	13/11/21 01:24 AM
-7	Ugly men don’t deserve my time ITT: babies go waahh after being denied actually believe she was the one denied	/r/PussyPassDenied	20/11/20 02:25 PM
1	MensLib shut down this topic, but I think good discussion was going on, feel free to continue here. The positive of 'toxic masculinity' is masculinity. And toxic femininity definitely exists pussypassdenied exists to celebrate when toxic femininity is put down (i guess in this case, the entitlement that come from being a woman) TRP, MGTOW etc listed many qualities as toxic and feminine. It seemed like they thrived on pointing out theeir failures	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/07/20 12:46 PM
1	Way to deal with gold-diggers True love is well rehearsed love Tattoos can be picked on a whim	/r/PussyPassDenied	18/05/20 12:50 PM
2	How can I overcome my jealousy so it stops ruining my relationships? Hey dude, I was going through my comment history deleting stuff, and came across a reply i made to your post from months ago about fighting insecurity, only to find that you've made another one recently I hope you're doing better dude. That's all I really wanted to say. Regarding this specific situation, maybe you made a good choice? If you recognise that you can't handle a woman like that without becoming bad, you're left with two good choices: try to wrestle with your head and fight throug…	/r/ExRedPill	06/10/19 01:19 PM
12	How do I stop this thinking? I'll give some advice. There are some feelings underlying the TRP stuff that won't go away when the TRP stuff goes away. The feelings like distrust, insecurity, anxiety... TRP is a convenient excuse for these feelings that you think are causing you problems, but its not TRP. It's you, dude. They're your feelings. Sure, disregard everything that TRP has said, but don't make the mistake of thinking that this will fix your feelings, because they're not actually that connected, your negative fee…	/r/ExRedPill	11/04/19 12:16 PM
6	TRP ruined my relationship and I’m not sure if it’s repairable I think, even without TRP, this is a common problem that a lot of men have with their relationships You don’t have to know TRP to learn the really harmful stuff that ruins relationships Things like being too selfish, untrusting, insecure. That thing you mentioned about calling the relationship off is something I recognise over thousands of these sort of posts. Power moves, and threatening things you think should be important and putting her in a position to prove your negative feelings right TRP…	/r/ExRedPill	10/04/19 12:18 AM
8	Western men say they want “trad women”, but they don’t in practice I think men who have little to no experience with women want someone who is very convenient for their needs, just like women who have little to no experience want someone who is convenient. I think as you get more experience with the other person (and life in general), you learn that some needs are more flexible than others People with little to no experience don’t understand what it reasonable to be flexible with or what to be firm with, so go too far either way	/r/ExRedPill	08/04/19 08:53 AM
2	Thoughts on Alexander Grace? Only glanced at his work just now, so it's only an opinion at surface level It seems like he discusses RP more than he lives by it Some of the statements he makes seem weak, "It's just biology" is an example of an argument that relies on you saying it for it to be true. But its hard to say whether he means this, or he's just playing his character Otherwise, meh. The more discussions about what men want and how to deconstruct these things we tell ourselves, the better Also, he sounds like he's …	/r/ExRedPill	24/03/19 07:39 AM
2	Had an awful relapse & am now uncomfortable in my relationship Oh hey, It’s great to hear you’re gonna give it a chance even through some scary feelings Good luck with everything dude	/r/ExRedPill	22/03/19 05:10 AM
2	Had an awful relapse & am now uncomfortable in my relationship 2/2 in fact she says she wants compliments and affection from me, but again I’ve been conditioned to think it’s all just a sham from women who don’t want what they say (thanks TRP! /s) Don't let strangers on the internet tell you what your gf wants. Even I'm only telling you what she wants based on what you've told me. I don't know her at all. How could I possibly know what she wants? Also, if you let trp advice affect how you choose to address some of these problems, responsibility can on…	/r/ExRedPill	19/03/19 09:59 PM
2	Had an awful relapse & am now uncomfortable in my relationship 1/2 I thought I was okay with being vulnerable but this is just a line I’m not comfortable crossing with something as intimate as music Music can be representative of ourselves. Songs we like to listen to will reflect how we feel about ourselves and our feelings on the world. She wants to share this music with you because she wants to share a part of herself with you. So yeah, can be pretty intimate lol And it's 100% okay to feel uncomfortable with this. Maybe you don't want to share that …	/r/ExRedPill	19/03/19 09:58 PM
3	Had an awful relapse & am now uncomfortable in my relationship ultimately my fears come down to two things: one being these deep feelings make it feel like I’m playing for real now with my girlfriend That does sound like being vulnerable makes you a little uncomfortable, but I don't know every experience you've had which contributes here, and most importantly these sort of thoughts can feel really meaningful and important now, but maybe later, days months or years, it might not seem to matter that much I guess, for me, it really depends on what you choo…	/r/ExRedPill	19/03/19 01:31 PM
1	Had an awful relapse & am now uncomfortable in my relationship I'm working backwards through your reply; and I’m also very afraid of this being the norm in my relationship It might be helpful to unpack your feelings and thoughts around this before you approach her about it. I only say this because you say you're afraid, but it's not really clear why you are afraid and what other thoughts accompany this feeling. When I say talk to her, I am also implying that you've given yourself time to think through it yourself, that way, you actually have some conv…	/r/ExRedPill	19/03/19 12:25 PM
1	Had an awful relapse & am now uncomfortable in my relationship Being emotionally vulnerable in a new relationship can be scary, but is a common experience for many people So responses to this can be good, bad, or just something else, either from the person exposing their vulnerability or the person witnessing it You can mitigate the risk that comes with being vulnerable by talking to her, and yourself trying to stay aware of your partners current feelings. This step avoids a lot of problems that can come from not communicating your needs to one another …	/r/ExRedPill	19/03/19 11:54 AM
4	Any communities/websites that dive in female psychology without the misogyny? From the perspective men still? I only ask because still want to innerstand the psychology of women and how relationships impact them/why they act how they act is making some implications about how you want to approach female psychology, as in, you want to focus on their relationships with men, female behaviours that are common when in relationships with men, particular issues you personally find problematic with regards to their behaviour (the "why they act" to me is implying that you wan…	/r/ExRedPill	18/03/19 10:19 PM
1	Falling into the rabbit hole... I have, however, noticed a somewhat fickle nature in women of my age range (I'm 21) with whom I've previously worked. Young people do young people shit. This is always true Some things to note though Not every new adult comes into adulthood with the same level of knowledge, experience, maturity, etc regarding 'fickle nature', no one owes anyone attention or time. Ever. I'm almost 30, but I always choose who I want to give my attention to. It's not my right to expect others to give me atten…	/r/ExRedPill	01/03/19 12:28 PM
1	Falling into the rabbit hole... You're meeting the wrong kind of women I mean, that's the problem with TRP though. The strategies they espouse appeal to women who are likely to confirm TRP beliefs. Shallow. Narcissistic. In need of guidance. That's the type of women who fall for the tricks. People who are that easily persuaded by those tricks can also be persuaded away from you just as easily, which TRP tries to reinforce But that's not all women. Or even most. Do you work? Any mothers or grandmothers...married women, …	/r/ExRedPill	01/03/19 11:03 AM
1	Falling into the rabbit hole... What arguments do you have a problem with? Family members can be unreliable sometimes. You sort of have to recognise what is within someones scope to understand what you're saying or recognise when you're talking to people who have no idea to begin I don't think I can even imagine telling my grandparents what the internet does, and how useful it is (they're dead now, so its not an option anyway) But you're in a space, where people regularly discuss TRP beliefs (and the impact of beliefs th…	/r/ExRedPill	01/03/19 10:42 AM
1	Falling into the rabbit hole... They make the world look like a much darker, more savage place but sadly, I have nothing to prove them wrong. I meant this You might not have much insight by yourself, but having conversations with others with a different perspective might shed some light on the options available to you Concerning your mental health issues and the treatments, I imagine getting to a 'normal' is some work, but just because you are normal, doesnt mean your mindset is 'fixed' now, much like someone who has gastr…	/r/ExRedPill	01/03/19 10:15 AM
1	Falling into the rabbit hole... Share what you think you have. We can all talk through it together	/r/ExRedPill	01/03/19 09:52 AM
1	How am I supposed to stop believing in redpill/blackpill if my experiences with women constantly show it to be true? Erm, it really sounds like it have bad tastes and are literally willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel for sexual relations The people you’re surrounded by seem a little out there...are these people at work, or tinder or something? Do you work in a professional setting? Where you are and where you choose to spend your time matters. If you want damaged girls, you hang out where damaged girls group up Think about it like this, imagine a conventional city girl going to a rural dive bar, where b…	/r/ExRedPill	15/02/19 04:09 AM
10	I became addicted to prostitutes after 2 years of red pill The strong ties to feminism can scare a lot of guys off from that sub I'm subbed to it, and fully support it, but even they occasionally get comments from some dudes about how feminism doesn't care about dudes and all and the sub is a part of it All I'm saying is that for someone used to TRP or MGTOW rhetoric, menslib might look too extreme for them. Not that there are many neutral zones out there, but still, it seems to be triggering sometimes	/r/ExRedPill	21/01/19 02:43 AM
14	Why is TRP "toxic" They’re not incoherent. And don’t end everything man It takes courage and patience to truly learn from the bad in your life. Sometimes you learn that things are just bad, and sometimes you learn that you’re not alone. Sometimes you learn to help others, and sometimes help yourself What’s your illness?	/r/ExRedPill	06/01/19 12:15 AM
1	Why is TRP "toxic" I don't see why Women need to change. Women nowadays don't seem to WANT to change These statements you've made, they discount women who DO want change, and they discount women who HAVE changed That's literally any women that doesn't confirm your beliefs It's like saying, I don't see why nazi's would need to kill jews Nazi's don't WANT to kill jews Conveniently discounting all the nazi's that actually killed jews. This is a comparison to highlight the flaw in this little part of your lo…	/r/ExRedPill	05/01/19 11:35 PM
1	Why is TRP "toxic" It assumes a lot about how women feel and think, inherently believing they follow these nature driven rules where only strong men can get what they want... It's unwilling to recognise the flaw in how it sees women, and how it's completely different to how it treats men Men are these victims, and need to make ourselves cold, and strong, and etc... because of what women are. WE have agency to change ourselves, but THEY don't. Like, what? How can it be that THEY are completely irrational an…	/r/ExRedPill	05/01/19 10:20 PM
1	Why I will be no longer reading anything related to any of the “pills” That's sad. Our siblings can sometimes be the biggest assholes. They take us for granted because we're family, so are willing to snap at everyone else when they get frustrated by their own shit Just assume he's a shitstain until he treats you better. I make sure to treat my younger sibling like they matter, because I hated my older sibling acting like they were annoyed or embarrassed by my presence. That shits stupid, and your bro needs to mature some more	/r/ExRedPill	03/01/19 09:11 AM
1	Boyfriend and I are both ex-redpill. Sometimes I doubt his stance though and it’s causing problems. Anyone have experience with ex-redpill as a couple? My opinion: I imagine that even though neither of you explicitly agree with redpill, the jokes he makes using rp resonate with the freedom he used to feel when believing and saying whatever. When you feel bothered by it, maybe he interprets that as you squashing that freedom of expression, which he might feel hampers his ability to be his 'self'. If this is true, then a conversation needs to happen about why he's so willing to hold on to rp enough to joke about it And also, joking about so…	/r/ExRedPill	31/12/18 05:31 AM
7	I almost posted on MGTOW but I’m trying to be better Girls (especially teen aged) can be really dumb in groups. Dumb as in, they know how to be nice or chill, but would rather be assholes because they always act like that with their friends. Dudes do they same thing when they talk about how they’re gonna fuck some chick, as that chick is in hearing range (personal experience) Maturity is a process, and some people get hooked on what they know rather than trying to change and be better (like being a dick, saying dumb shit without actually thinking …	/r/ExRedPill	22/12/18 12:42 PM
10	Should I tell my girlfriend that I'm exredpill? It's not important that she knows you used to follow trp and applied it to your life. What will be important is what you learned from that experience, and how it continues to affect your behaviour. Does she feel like you care about her, her well being, her feelings, her thoughts and her pride? If you tell her that you followed trp before this foundation of trust in your care of her has formed, in her mind, then the idea of a trp/incel/mgtow male might deter her from continuing the relation…	/r/ExRedPill	18/12/18 08:21 AM
1	i thought i had exed the redpill but.. Adapting to change is the way we survive... but it's in our nature to keep things how they are, to achieve success using the paths our parents taught us...because they worked before. People need to die so that some of these unchanging paths die too. You alluded to these paths when you said in your other post If a man lacks empathy his society taught him to do that and he eventually accepted that this is how it has to be We can change things, but change is always violent. And even if I beli…	/r/ExRedPill	17/12/18 11:46 AM
1	Red pill lacks empathy. If a man lacks empathy his society taught him to do that and he eventually accepted that this is how it has to be Society changes. Gay people can get married rather than be exiled or murdered. Black people aren't automatically slaves We can let the bad things that permeate society continue, or we can try to change it If you want to let it continue, you have to ask yourself whether you're a victim of of society, or complicit in it, and maybe even benefit from the way it's structured	/r/ExRedPill	17/12/18 11:37 AM
1	i thought i had exed the redpill but.. As a man you should ignore your feelings I wrote "That's your FEELINGS pushing those reactions out". You can feel what you want. But if you don't try to recognise what you're feeling, and lead with reactionary comments instead...you're not really going to be making helpful comments, because they're driven by emotion rather than thought. Women generally talk through their emotions with others to gain insight into their actions and how it is influenced by their behaviour. Reasons they did thin…	/r/ExRedPill	17/12/18 11:30 AM
10	Answer to Q1: No there are no power relations. Answer to Q2: Women have more power. Sell? If we're talking marketplace, men need to inform themselves better Better sources of information is vital Men need to be aware of predatory practices when it comes to advertising. In this case, appealing to their emotions (look at what feminists say!!! THEY RUIN EVERYTHING!)	/r/ExRedPill	12/12/18 12:27 AM
10	Answer to Q1: No there are no power relations. Answer to Q2: Women have more power. Problem 1: Your sources are young college aged girls, who are generally new to the adult world and don't know much of what they're talking about Problem 2: You're using the thoughts made by borderline children to justify... killing romance? idk man...you might need to give it some more thought and time Edit: One point though, that video was made in 2017. Surely there are some well thought out responses to the video? I personally didn't watch it because, I don't really value these opinions no…	/r/ExRedPill	12/12/18 12:16 AM
2	i thought i had exed the redpill but.. It’s always bullshit. But if it affects you, then you need to find a way to make that bullshit stop affecting you. You can’t erase it, so you have to deal with it	/r/ExRedPill	11/12/18 01:43 AM
11	i thought i had exed the redpill but.. how do i fight this feeling? By not succumbing to those feelings like you have in this thread. Your responses betray a lack of sense, some irrationality...they're too general. Low effort responses that provoke reactions, because you don't have a fleshed out idea yet.... That's your FEELINGS pushing those reactions out. Slow down, think a bit more about what people are giving you, think more about what you want to respond with, and double check that how you want to respond is the best way to conv…	/r/ExRedPill	10/12/18 01:21 PM
3	i thought i had exed the redpill but.. We play GTA, but crime sprees happened before that game came out, they happen after it came out, and crime is reducing overall... What's your point?	/r/ExRedPill	10/12/18 01:16 PM
5	I'm in the process of going full red pill, why shouldn't I? Sorry for not getting back to ya I think it's very important that you make clear exactly what your problems are, written down. The first step to fixing a problem is recognising its a problem. Then understand what you can do Then what she can do What you and she can't do And what you WILL do You've jumped all the way to the end, and it seems like right now you're becoming aware of what you want and how you want it. You gotta go back to the start What instances upset you, then find common elem…	/r/ExRedPill	29/11/18 09:02 AM
18	I'm in the process of going full red pill, why shouldn't I? So, firstly, and obviously IMO, women shouldn't ever be put on some pedestal. The way you talk about how you were before also doesn't seem too healthy, and if you're as committed to red pill as you say, you're trading one unhealthy for another. That's not to say it's not useful in someway. I think of it as eating shit covered McDonalds to survive until you're capable and knowledgeable to cook for yourself. A philosophy that Red Pill promotes is only ever able to solve a small range of proble…	/r/ExRedPill	29/11/18 12:27 AM
14	I'm in the process of going full red pill, why shouldn't I? I'm still young and learning to control my temper. I've never been a beater, let that be clear It only takes once. And as you perceive her to be more submissive NOW, if it goes back again LATER, and you get even more frustrated that things are going bad again..it's better that you have a firm grasp on how to de-escalate as soon as possible (without any of that expectation that shit better get fixed or you'll double down on the red pill shit) So far though, what you described seems almost like …	/r/ExRedPill	28/11/18 11:29 PM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points duped by society at large and how to show them a healthy sexual strategy. True, but the framework given by TRP to address this shows a reductionist view on women and their reasoning capabilities. It's ALSO duping men. You don't fix a lie by saying a lie on the opposite side of the spectrum Tell me, what is it specifically that is a problem? I’ve read a lot of books, not just side bar bullshit, and I can’t help but see the positives. Are you implying that TRP has no problems, and that it's …	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 09:36 PM
11	feminism today tells boys not to be men. then they grow up and find that women only want men. feminism is psychosomatic childhood avoidance. u/krishnoo can you stop with the rambling propaganda in this subreddit please? If you have questions, that's cool. But you're literally doing what they do in TRP with the anti-feminist nonsense based on nothing but feels	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 07:30 PM
2	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points But you brought up logic. You said you studied it And you've failed to demonstrate any good use of logic, which suggests you haven't studied it	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 07:10 PM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points Everyday language? Was talking about your application of logic and how you reach conclusions.... Which is by saying things are a certain way Just trying to help you see where you’re implementing poor methods to solve the issue you’ve bought up	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 06:31 PM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points You fail at basic arguing Mere assertions don’t make your points logical or true	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 06:20 PM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points You’re missing 101 knowledge, so hopefully you actually begin there Edit: I assume you were being sarcastic?	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 05:53 PM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points the point was that redpill isn't itself good The good you find in rp can be found in other places...better, less bitter ones	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 11:13 AM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points No i blame feminisms for hypocritically reinforcing something that a patriarchal society has inforced, WHERE? And don't point me to fashion magazines and twitter posts... You are well read of feminist theory. Where? All my 'generalization' comments had an 'i feel' statement. But they're not GOOD generalisations, yet they are what you use to reinforce your argument. If bad points are what you use to reinforce your argument...it's a bad argument I'm not coming at you from a feminist angle bt…	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 11:11 AM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points Me: But you make really reductionist and very broad statements... Example1: i feel like feminism is a whole literature's worth of psychosomatic childbirth avoidance. As well as a viewpoint that ALWAYS nonetheless propagates a blinding, one-dimensional white feminist privilege. Example2: I feel like feminists want to have their cake and eat it too, by coming against the male gaze over the boobies, and never uttering a word about the female gaze over the wallet. yes, PEOPLE should have s…	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 10:55 AM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points What’s the premise of the red pill? You’re alluding to some theory that is reasonable, but I argue that the ‘reasonable’ writings that redpill hold dear do not originate from redpill. It’s been adopted to make the redpills primary agendas also seem reasonable by association	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 05:25 AM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points In confused. You say you’ve read some feminist material? But you make really reductionist and very broad statements... I see feminism as a critique, it’s a lens you apply to the foundations that otherwise don’t get that treatment... You bring up things about race, which is a good point about what feminism can address better (and actively does, not all feminists are white and address gender solely from that perspective). But it also comes off as a bit of whataboutism The examples you have of your…	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 03:38 AM
1	well read in feminist theory but scared that i find myself being convinced of all this redpill ideology... please help me refute some of these points Red pill is the source of shit and just so happens to incorporate some good advice that is also promoted elsewhere (like self care tips? Pride in ones self? You can look at religion and find a lot of those same messages)	/r/ExRedPill	25/11/18 03:25 AM
1	I'm pretty angry about how bad I've been duped. And step away from trying to win a debate, and look more at “does this help/hurt me or others?”	/r/ExRedPill	23/11/18 05:14 AM
1	Feeling torn Isn´t womens preference for different types of males on birth control, during the menstrual cycles and ovulation proof of the "Alpha fux and Beta bux-theory" Dang, I was recently reading a thread about some studies done in this, released within the last couple of months, that has sort of rendered a lot of the initial assumptions, about exactly what happens with women during their cycle with regards to attraction, bunk. At least, the really extreme ones about only being attracted to rough guys …	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/18 07:16 AM
5	Do women love conditionally? Even your mum has conditions... Such as, if you physically and mentally torture her for weeks on end, crippling her and harming everyone she loves...I think she could probably stop loving you	/r/ExRedPill	08/11/18 04:10 AM
10	Do women love conditionally? If there's no such thing as unconditional love, then what's left is something that can probably be described as opportunistic... We don't like being in relationships where the person you love doesn't ever show it. Or they abuse you. We don't like it, but even that can be seen as opportunist if they stayed... Honestly, the definition of opportunist you made "only about finding someone that will listen to them and praise them" is actually really broad, and probably one of the first definitions of …	/r/ExRedPill	08/11/18 04:09 AM
4	I've been trying to leave for over a year now. I don't even know how to ask for help anymore. Hi. Would you be comfortable voicing those actual thoughts and letting others see if theres some root issue that might be able to be addressed? Example, I used to get really jealous of attractive girls getting attention and expecting to get it rather than trying to get someones attention, like me. Obviously, they did try, just not with me... I mean, that's just a random thought i pulled out from a memory of how I felt. It normally followed with an idea that they were probably 1) aware and 2) act…	/r/ExRedPill	23/08/18 11:04 AM
1	No faith in long term relationships Good luck It's a learning experience aye. There are better ways to see yourself and relationships if they're getting you down too much that might be more meaningful to you or take you where you want to be. Hope all goes well for you	/r/ExRedPill	20/07/18 04:15 AM
2	No faith in long term relationships You’re going to live a long time. And you’re going to be drawn to many people with varying degrees of intensity. Some might be someone you want to be friends with. Some might be you have a crush. Some might be you want to talk and cheer them up or something I feel like it’s a consequence of having empathy, wanting to relate to others and wanting to belong. We can’t arbitrarily draw some line against some natural thing. But with a relationship, it’s something that you build and maintain. The feel…	/r/ExRedPill	20/07/18 02:06 AM
6	No faith in long term relationships It can be romantic to imagine one person is made uniquely for another, but that’s naive too. While not bad, you end up making poor decisions because you’re not reasoning as well as you should I personally think I can have a relationship with many people, but I’m not willing to break what I have to explore that potential. That’s like crashing your car to test the quality of the airbag. I don’t need to do it myself when others seem to have done it before me Is it a shame to take precautions to not…	/r/ExRedPill	20/07/18 01:49 AM
6	No faith in long term relationships Honestly? More in love than before, we both admit it to each other It’s not just about being comfortable with your relationship, it’s seeing them grow, seeing them become more confident as adults, finding things to enjoy together, all of that builds. But also, love is a commitment. There’s many times our relationship could’ve failed, so many. But we chose to stick together because day to day, we make each other happy, or content I agree, you can never be sure (when it comes to a stranger). But s…	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/18 10:02 PM
1	No faith in long term relationships I liked that you added that thing about talking with your husband about the ‘cheating’ feelings and him feeling the same. I feel like a lot of people with OPs mindset are scared that thinking about cheating is wrong, because once you have those feelings you’re going to be carried away and lose control of your body and cheat because it’s now inevitable.	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/18 08:21 PM
5	No faith in long term relationships Do you get sad that music you listened to 8 years ago, you prob don’t listen to now? Why’s that? Maybe because, a lot of that music is actually pretty shit. Some of it might still be good, and those are the songs you still hold on to because they’re still meaningful to you... Yeah, it’s a lot of effort to love all things constantly, forever, because there’s a lot of stuff that don’t actually deserve it Personally, I love my wife’s loyalty. And her cleverness. I’m lucky that I have someone who ha…	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/18 08:14 PM
2	Aren't men as selfish and unpredictable? I think their argument is that women are selfish so men SHOULD be too... Blaming them for the loss of character and integrity, and that being a dick is either gaining it back, punishing them, or both	/r/ExRedPill	10/07/18 08:06 AM
2	Unconditional security makes women bored? A parallel can be drawn between “women with relationships” as he sees it, and your relationship with your employer. Sure, at any time you can leave. Some people get stuck in the idea that work will look after them. But if you’re a lower level worker/ someone not worth investing in, they’ll replace you when it’s convenient. A relationship can have a lot more impact in your life though, like a job where you’re a top manager, friends with the owner, or the co-owner. At that level, it would be stupi…	/r/ExRedPill	26/05/18 04:26 AM
4	How TRP nearly made a rapist. My experience following The Red Pill Attractiveness and colour are sorta tied in that, features that are common on white people are considered more attractive then features commonly associated with non-white (for example). You can argue that colour has nothing to do with this, but these feature differences are what people are more likely talking about when talking about colour. Unless you’re talking about the literal colour of someone’s skin, but then you wouldn’t be addressing someone when they say being white is better	/r/ExRedPill	14/05/18 07:52 AM
1	Ex Kicked Me out Of my house and Got Me Fired from my Businesses, possible legal options? It’s not an impression	/r/MensRights	28/01/18 04:32 AM
1	Ex Kicked Me out Of my house and Got Me Fired from my Businesses, possible legal options? Idk man. You’re doing a pretty good impression of a terrible adult.	/r/MensRights	28/01/18 12:38 AM
1	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" Never said they should. I'm saying they shouldn't advocate for the mistreatment of women in order to get some control in their lives, regardless of how superficial the solutions are. TRP name is derived from that scene in the matrix where taking the red pill reveals the truth of the world (the truth that feminism is controlling the world). Their "advice" continues with this train of thought. They promote doing harmful things, harmful to their lives, their relationships, and other peoples relatio…	/r/MensRights	28/04/17 04:05 AM
1	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" underlying phenomenon is the same... In that they discuss relationships. Cool. Already agreed. The severity is different, so comparisons are weak. Which was my point. But you're saying they're the same thing, because they give relationship advice. That's like saying the prime minister of Australia and Kim Jong Un are the same, because they're leaders. Ignoring the fact that one of them are very shit, and it's our responsibility as members of society to discourage anti-social, well, encouragement…	/r/MensRights	27/04/17 06:25 PM
1	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" dating advice that is even remotely on par... You gave examples, I showed how they weren't on par at all, you said something that involved projecting your personal experiences with a woman onto "women in general". What I mean by that is, you never clarified what group of women. You said, 'women lie and cheat', as a way to reinforce what you perceive to be the intent of the articles you gave. Whose approaches were completely different to the TRP side plating (which literally involved lying, manip…	/r/MensRights	27/04/17 02:06 PM
1	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" If they're less likely to write about it on Reddit, that just means on average they may be better liars, not better people. Not better than TRP you mean? And by they, you mean all women, or...? Because my attacks have been against TRP and your odd drawing of similarities between the TRP and Cosmo. (They have an audience, they talk about gendered issues, but you have to add a bit more on to cosmo to make them seem as bad) Although, you have made mention of "women" being cheats and liars a lot. I …	/r/MensRights	27/04/17 04:46 AM
1	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" It's dating little kid nonsense, except, yknow... They're not little kids. Going back to our comparisons of Cosmo and TRP, where cosmo actually is for kids (teens). There are ways to discuss relationships without being manipulative and hostile. You're living in a very naive state if you seriously believe that many women don't advocate lying or cheating on a wide variety of fronts. Based on the evidence you presented, this isn't true. You've offered nothing that suggests advocating for lying and …	/r/MensRights	27/04/17 03:26 AM
1	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" You know, there is an easy solution to that: don't date those people. No red piller is forcing women to date him. I had the unfortunate experience of dating a girl once who proclaimed she and her friends always kept a "back up boyfriend" / "guy on deck" You mean you? It was a part of your experience of female side-plating. Or... did you forget to alt? You've thrown me for a loop there, sorry. Gonna try reorient myself. Same crap, different vocabulary: Different crap. A relationship based on lyin…	/r/MensRights	27/04/17 01:02 AM
3	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" she and her friends always kept a "back up boyfriend"... You didn't like it when it happened to you (you refer to it as unfortunate, so I assume you didn't like it), but it's okay when TRP does it to others (I don't say just women, coz it could work on both, even though TRP is mostly hetero)? Cosmo article refering to side plating, pls? In my life, I hear both sides from both men and women (mostly men though). Cosmo is still on a different level from TRP though Why? Is "negging" disingenuous? Do…	/r/MensRights	26/04/17 08:39 AM
13	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" Well. It seems I'm mixing my conversations. My apologies for that feminism side tracking Your point was: to call Red Pill misogyny, that employs a high degree of embellishment. You then used Cosmo as a counter example. Are you saying their messages and views are equal in severity and impact? Because there is a difference between "juvenille" teen girl, how-to-navigate-the-world type things (Cosmo) and the predatory "negging", side plate bullshit shared by grown men. I see more female positive mes…	/r/MensRights	26/04/17 05:57 AM
16	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10377779/How-to-train-your-boyfriend-like-a-dog.html That one was interesting because it was written by a man drawing similarities between dog training and training a husband. IT's a womans section on the telegraph, which I assume is one of the UK's main papers. http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a2879/train-boyfriend/ This ones from 8 years ago. I don't see how this would be encouraged by any credible feminist thought though. None of those t…	/r/MensRights	26/04/17 03:47 AM
5	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" It's like a football game where they're on opposite sides but going for the same goalposts (I'm not American so, forgive if that was wrong). And yeah, one of them are in a better position to score against the losing side (cosmo and woman)	/r/MensRights	26/04/17 03:42 AM
–	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" Red Pillers aren't rapists Wasn't my point. My point was they are openly misogynist, whereas cosmo are not openly misandrist. TRP encourages practices that undermine woman and the value they place on themselves. Cosmo undermine women and only value the superficial. They're almost on the same team, just different sides	/r/MensRights	26/04/17 02:54 AM
–	Daily Beast Article Attacks Reddit's Red Pill Forum As A Site for "Women Haters", "Misogynists" and "Rape Sympathizers" Maybe Cosmopolitan Magazine has misandric views (you'd have to find some sources. TRP is pretty overt with it's dislike against women (or misogyny). Like, you don't have to dig that far to find rape denialists (which is pretty disgusting). I don't recall a Cosmo article about how all men are rapists	/r/MensRights	26/04/17 02:40 AM
-1	Handling "you look old" "Umm...thanks lol?" - light but addressing their rudeness, in a light way. I mean, that is pretty rude, and they're probably trying to be funny. But if you make it that they're the ones with the problem and not you (keep it light) then that puts you in a better position to move on to better people or have them feel guilty and want to apologise. Unless you want think you can sleep with them, in which case: "I have the experience to match wink" lol	/r/seduction	13/07/16 02:36 PM