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18	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from?	Discussion	truebluethruandthrue	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 06:42 AM

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2	Does this post describe how most redpillers view women and sex? I'm in my 30's, but I've been on my own financially, and, quite frankly, emotionally, since I was 19. (I moved far away from home to a place where i knew no one) It is true that I have walked away from most of my romantic relationships. My take is that in relationships, the person who is benefitting least from the relationship, and the person who is less enamored is more likely to walk away. Perhaps also the person who is more ambitious, or has higher standards. At earlier ages, men are perhaps …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/15 12:24 AM
5	Does this post describe how most redpillers view women and sex? I do agree that there's a problem with domestic violence laws, and the way we view domestic violence. Men can be the victims as well as the perpetrators. But operating under the assumption that most of us are NOT domestic abusers, or criminals of any kind... Do women not face the same/similar consequences for most actions? For example, as a woman, if I go into debt, don't I still have to pay back the money? That's obvious- yes - and before you say, "she'll probably get some man to pay it off" I'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/15 11:22 PM
12	Does this post describe how most redpillers view women and sex? Women will never take equal responsibility for managing their emotions and actions as men. So, uh...how can you know this is reality and not just your subjective experience of reality?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/15 11:01 PM
10	Does this post describe how most redpillers view women and sex? Yeah? Tell my guy that when I'm on top of him ;) I'm pretty sure he'd agree that it's his body being acted upon, and I'm performing the action. You see, the fun thing about sex is that you TAKE TURNS taking the reins. And if you're only doing it the one way (with the man performing) then you're missing out on half the fun. I feel for you, and for any woman you act upon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/15 10:57 PM
0	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? The comment I replied to has that quote right at the bottom. And you "agreed 100%" So I think my reply was not only well-placed, but relevant =)	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 03:59 AM
0	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I was specifically referring to this comment: "Fyi- degrees don't mean shit, idk why women think they deserve more money for doing a simple task just because they have a degree" I'm not sure if you originally wrote it or not. I didn't say anything about supportive roles vs. CEOs- that's somebody else's argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 03:45 AM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? So your "women had to be more adaptive to survive" theory suggests that this is an evolutionary trait passed only from mother to daughter? But not from mother to son? So being adaptively fluid is passed along via the X chromosome then? Would males not also inherit this trait, having gotten an X from both mother and father? Edit: Ok, had a look at your links. So you premise is that women have more plasticity in their personality/sexuality, and they emulate the man they are with. To back this clai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 03:25 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? There are links in the post above. Not all are directly to the research but I'm sure you can find them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 01:10 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? That's great. Congrats!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 01:06 AM
5	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I'm pretty sure women can build things, Mr. Squid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 01:05 AM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Ummmm.... research? Stats? Science? I know that's what red pillers believe, trust me, I toddle on over there and read every time I want to be entertained. But...why? Why do they think this is true?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:57 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Well... if you're going strictly by stereotypical gender roles...in a world where men didn't exist, it would be unlikely that an army of invaders would exist, or that world war 3 would break out. You might have had better luck with this one if you said a natural disaster. Edit: I am not, repeat, AM NOT saying men shouldn't exist. I love men. I'm just saying that if you're looking at the world through a red pill lens, these scenarios are unlikely to play out in a world without men. So like, you'r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:56 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Really? I didn't know that. Interesting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:53 AM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? See this is just restating the original thesis with no hard evidence. All of the evidence that I see, via science, suggests that women do better without men than vice versa. Do you have any evidence to back your opinions up?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:51 AM
3	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Wow. Well, thanks for your...perspective. I'm glad you weighed in with your super important opinion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:50 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Every study I've seen suggests the opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:49 AM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Go ahead and read the rest of my history- on the rebound, hardly, I've chosen not to be in a relationship now. And I'd hardly say alpha widowed ;) I do dislike my ex, which actually means I"m happy to be rid of him and have since had better experiences with other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:47 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? can be is not the same as averages. People are animals, and thus follow trends. They sho' do! http://introvertzone.com/ratio-of-introverts That's a pretty fuckin small difference. and yet you are happier alone. Do you not see that this means you are foraging outside of your bubble to achieve that emotional sustenance? Men don't have such a strong need. I actually have no idea what you're saying here. yes, of course, you are a special snowflake, and are thus immune to all statistics. Actually, I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:45 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Uhm, not really. Because it seems that those who hold college degrees and have specialties DO tend to make more money. Just sayin'. Stats don't lie. http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2011/08/05/how-higher-education-affects-lifetime-salary But, ya know, whatever, don't want to throw a wrench in your "if it's not manual labor, it's shit" narrative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:39 AM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I think more than loving each other we LIKE each other. I'd say you're doing pretty damn well then. Best of luck to you!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/15 12:36 AM
0	You are dating someone you are really attracted to for a while, and they tell you they have slept with nearly 400 people. What would be your response? Have a conversation about this and what it means to him. I'm pretty sure the info would lead to a break up- we'd just be too different and our ideas about sex would probably be too different. But I would be curious- what was his attitude toward these 400 women. How did he come to be in bed with all of them? If he was honest with all of them, they all felt supported and respected afterwards, and he showed concern for their well-being, no harm, no foul. But that would be a difficult feat, eh?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 09:28 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I think red pill would serve their followers better by recognizing that we both ought to prize each other. But I think part of the reason men are drawn to red pill is that it's such an extreme philosophy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 09:23 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I think most of what I've seen in media is problematic. And I've seen very little. I haven't seen trainwreck, but I really appreciate Amy Schumer's work so I'm sure I'd like it. I think any time a character puts their self-worth on the train tracks to please someone else, it's cringe-worthy. Male or female, I don't like to see that. But if someone, male or female, shows that they value their partner and want to do things to support or please them, that's wonderful. I guess there's a fine line. M…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 09:20 PM
3	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Ok Are you single now? Yes. If yes, Did stopped looking for commitment from guys? Yes, I am actively avoiding commitment from guys. Do you prefer being single than being in relationship? Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:40 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I don't know much about that, but I think usually they get the alimony because they get custody of the kids and have to support them. (that's actually something about the men's rights movement that resonates with me, I don't think women should always get custody of the kids) But this doesn't explain why men seem to want to remarry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:37 PM
3	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? My last "real relationship" ended about a year ago. I got on okcupid for a few months, went on some dates, and every guy I went out with wanted a relationship (I think something about my profile pre-selects for relationship-minded men). I felt overwhelmed and I hate "rejecting" people, so I got off okcupid. Now I am still hanging out with three of the men I met there, one more seriously than the others (I see him once a week and sometimes sleep over). He very much wants to be in a relationship. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:30 PM
3	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I'm not sure Mr. God of Dreams. Both men and women can be introverts- I certainly am one. I'm far happier when I spend the majority of my time alone, and I'm a woman. Maybe I'm an anomaly? And I hate chick flicks. And I get far more emotional sustenance from my relationships with other females. I'm not saying my personal experience is proof of a greater pattern, but what you're saying certainly doesn't ring true to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:24 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? How does red pill define it when they say "women need men more than men need women" ? I guess I just mean in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:21 PM
3	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I don't have to. I have a college degree that allows me to do highly specialized work that pays far more than manual labor. I was just helping my uncle out. But if I had to do it, I would. It would be hard. I would grow new muscles, but if the choice was that or death or poverty, sure, I'd do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:18 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? It's kind of hard to unravel how this is even an answer to the question. It sort of sounds like you just grabbed a bunch of red pill talking points and flung them at the page? Do you have any examples, studies, or evidence you can cite to back your opinions up?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:14 PM
5	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I'm a woman, and looking back over my life, the times when I was happiest were the times that I was single. This is just a personal observation about my own life, I'm sure it's not true of everyone. Any other ladies want to speak up? Have the happiest times in your life been when you were in a relationship, or single?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:09 PM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I don't know if I agree with how you're using the world feminine, but beyond the semantic dispute, I think I agree. I'm always miffed when I see red pill men calling for a return to traditional societies. Have they seen examples of traditional societies at work? Usually they're not doing so well. I don't think most men from the decadent west would want to move to the middle east. We could argue about whether the chicken or the egg came first, but comfortable, wealthy societies and women having m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:06 PM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I think both would survive. They might be very different, but both would continue to go on. I think I'd prefer to live in the world with only women though!	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 08:01 PM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? One argument for why RP says that women need men more is that they are trying to empower men who are convinced strongly by society that the opposite is true. Most men are in relationships (and are fed by messages) where there is almost no positive reinforcement of value by their partners and society shows popular media where men are not considered valuable. It leads to problems when men in relationships have no subconscious perception of self worth. Many men, in the absence of any kind of positi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:57 PM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? My personal experience suggests that men need women more. Not just for the baby thing, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:46 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? But the studies listed above do suggest that men are more likely to remarry, while women often just want to stay single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:45 PM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Many of those men are very feminine, honestly. Very low T men, based on what I can tell from interacting with them. This seems to be the go-to explanation from red pillers any time someone points out something they don't like about men. "Well, they're just like women, that's their problem!" But they are men. So maybe men can also have flaws/problems that you see as uniquely feminine. Maybe the problems/flaws aren't feminine, but just part of the human condition?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:41 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Ok, if I'm missing something, please explain it to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:32 PM
2	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Couldn't be, you know, a confirmation bias at work here or anything?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:30 PM
1	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? My work wouldn't be possible without my degree, and I make a higher hourly than almost any man in my family (I think my brother in law makes more than me, but he doesn't have the flexibility and other benefits that I enjoy). My degree gave me a specialty, without which I couldn't do my job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:29 PM
5	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? Funny, a male dentist fucked up my sister's teeth and a female dentist fixed them. Women CAN do labor jobs. The right tools make all the difference. I'm helping my uncle with a project and (because he's getting older) I ended up doing all of the heavy work yesterday- but with the right equipment, even the heavy work was possible with my (woman) strength. He confided that I was much more useful to him than my 6 foot 4 male cousin. He even said he thought I was stronger (which I doubt, but thanked…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 07:25 PM
4	Red Pill often says women need men more than men need women. Where does this idea come from? I think they're talking more about interpersonally, not so much societally- I'm pretty sure their argument is that one woman needs one man more than one man needs one woman. I think a lot of the gender differentiation in career comes from old gender roles. Even in my mom's generation, women were mostly just encouraged to be nurses or teachers. That's speculative of course - perhaps in future generations women still won't want to be fire fighters etc. Still if men disappeared tomorrow, women coul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 06:59 AM
2	Hi PPD! Tell us your "origin story" I dated a red pill guy but didn't find out about red pill until after we broke up. When I started doing red pill reading, all of his strange behavior started to make sense. I feel bad for him - He ended up proposing just as I was thinking, "this relationship will never work, I have to get out." It's sad, because I see his humanity and know that deep in there, there's a good person. But he was really lead astray by red pill ideas. Like I said, I feel for him and wish I hadn't hurt him, but I coul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/15 06:06 AM