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I don't personally believe modern marriage is the healthy choice to make BUT I am also not naive enough to think there should be nothing anchoring men to the children they produce. Some men think so highly of their own sense of honor and morality that they forget how prone they are to giving in to the urge to ditch their old wives for a younger woman. I've seen it more often than I can count. That's pretty much why child support and alimony exist. Yeah they're unfair now but men really can't pre…
/r/TheRedPill18/01/19 08:17 PM
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Yeah maybe not full blown unsatisfied but desiring to know what else she could get IF there was better waiting around the corner. Hypergamy basically.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/18 07:02 PM
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No that's not what I'm saying. There is a difference between dressing decently as to be publicly acceptable and dressing for the sole purpose of sexual attention. It might be a matter of degree, sure. You can't exactly "save beauty" like you would money. It is a sign of respect for a woman to purposefully keep herself out of situations that explicitly advertise her to the opposite sex in a sexualized manner. Her dressing up to not look like a slob in public is another thing altogether. Makeup is…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/18 09:06 AM
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Well just think about what it means. It means they would like to sexually advertise. So take it for what it is. A woman who is content with her situation with a given man wouldn't desire to do that. It is disrespectful. It implies some kind of dissatisfaction. Many women are discontent being in one relationship because their future lives and/or future children aren't as much a factor thanks to modern culture. So they feel no need to make the necessary sacrifices to keep men because they no longe…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/18 07:28 AM
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As a JP fan, I'm skeptical of his vision of american culture reverting back to a stable state that is healthy for men and women. That being said, I do wonder if some of the reluctance to bring about the necessary changes to do this is coming from a place of corruption on the part of men here. I get it though. You found a way to finally win. Great. But at what point will you actually want to NOT contribute to the decline? Will you get so used to a more hedonistic, reactionary lifestyle that you w…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/18 07:43 AM
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This isn't too hard to pull off aside from the court orders working out for the guy. Did something similar myself. I firmly believe ex's are great plate material as long as they have no control over your life or finances. It's a win/win.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/18 01:27 AM
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IF...I was married. Yeah. lol. I'm not advocating for marriage here dude.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 02:10 AM
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The assumption being you can't have some control over their peer group?
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 12:49 AM
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But if people like me out breed you, then your ideas die and mine survive. Or at least are more likely to. So if I'm whatever you say I am, it must be better than whatever you are if it survives.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 12:14 AM
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No thanks. I'll let nihilistic tools like yourself refrain from reproduction so future generations are more like me than you. Hahahahahahahaha. See how that works?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/18 10:52 PM
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Yeah you have to believe that eh? Because a successful family guy would ruin your narrative.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/18 09:53 PM
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PSA: You can have hobbies and raise kids at the same time. I'm sorry you're damaged goods and can't fathom someone having a life involving both. I'm sorry your life sucked and you couldn't make the cut. Now show me on the doll where the bad woman hurt you.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/18 06:37 PM
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The surplus of people is solved by stopping the bottom tier of the population from reproducing. Not the upper tier. The people with the best means of raising children should be having them more actually instead of leaving the irresponsible to do it. I know a lot of people unhappy or mentally ill. What does that have to do with it? Not having kids isn't going to accomplish anything. The problems will still be right there.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/18 07:04 AM
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They all change once they get the ring on their finger. That's you projecting dude. I'm sorry she fucked all your friends. It sucks but it doesn't mean that everyone else should give up something good because you had a bad experience. Kids are awesome. You suggesting that kids aren't a worthwhile goal is the equivalent of a radical feminist saying the same thing. You would say that because it didn't work out for you. Doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept that sad life. You'll die alone but …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/18 02:27 AM
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Most solid as in risk free? Yeah sure...but risk free is also reward free at the same time. Take your pick I suppose. If you don't genuinely feel inclined towards raising children then that's fine in individual cases I suppose. But ask yourself "should this be the norm and what would be the long term consequences of a norm like this?" The best answers start looking a little different then. Think about the impact of that on a societal scale. I understand some already believe the collapse is immin…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/18 08:07 PM
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Not every scenario is salvageable. I understand that. But some of them are. Some kids can be managed a lot better by their fathers right now. It's not an excuse to just give up entirely. Do what you can. Sometimes little seeds will bloom later when they get shit on by women and the justice system themselves. A ton of these problems can be prevented by simply not reproducing with shitty women. If you have a kid, make sure the mother is actually legit in her temperament and not afraid to be femini…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/18 07:23 PM
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Your kids will be corrupt to the degree you allow them to be. Being active in the kids life goes a long way.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/18 05:12 PM
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Not all games fall into that category. Are most? Sure. But I think titles like Dota 2 are exceptions to this. They are free, can be played whenever you have free time, and let you blow off some competitive steam. If video games are played in moderation there isn't really a problem. But if people skip gym to play them, they have too much of a hold on someone.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/18 03:26 AM
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This reminds me of a small complaint I had been meaning to bring up with the plate spinners. Something I've noticed that happens sometimes is the plate spinning types will purposefully spin the submissive types who would have otherwise made good spouses and spin them into the aggressive and dominant types when they inevitably reflect on how they let some guy use them like that. This naturally results in less options for the guys looking to start families. So the dilemma is, is plate spinning fuc…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/18 08:46 PM
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That's why it's crucial to educate yourself and practice social competence. Once you get out of the mindset of the common "drone" type of person, you'll be less replaceable than you think. And they'll know it if they're anything halfway intelligent themselves.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/18 10:01 AM
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Well it seems to make sense to me that men who are likely to get divorced are the ones that rely entirely on their wives and children for emotional support. They have few friends (sometimes a direct result of pressure from the wife to stop having certain friends) so when their marriages collapse it's like their whole lives are made meaningless. Especially after watching some other dude come into the picture with the mother and attempt to take his place. It's not surprising to me that this correl…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/18 01:35 AM
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I was going to say something like this. Glad someone did. If a woman is not in a position to offer healthy children and motherhood, she has NOTHING of real value to offer in the first place and certainly isn't worth going through the motions of dating. I think the removal of that context is exactly why so many relationships suck and die these days. People instinctively feel there is no point to putting up with so much shit if kids' lives aren't at stake.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 11:42 PM
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Most men don't want to cheat? Ehh. Sounds a bit naive to me. Most men CAN'T cheat because it's too risky seeking other partners while having one on the side. The men that can do it and get away with it certainly do it all the time. I agree with most TRP principles but this idea that men are somehow innately more loyal than women is complete bullshit. More men just lack options. Try not to confuse those two things.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 01:59 PM
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How the fuck does a girl have 100% control of your sex life when you're the one committing? Lol. You're agreeing to it. Just don't marry and you really have all the threat you need. The ability to bounce the fuck out.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 01:50 PM
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The way I see it, what the hardcore redpill crowd is getting at is to stop always cooperating even with traditional values because it's actively breeding more cheaters and making you a sitting duck. Cheaters take quick advantage of morality. Since collective trust is so low due to there being so many games going on all the time(the most simultaneously in history actually), the best strategy is to be a strict copy cat. What marriage effectively does is remove a male's ability to actually pull off…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 12:03 AM
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Right. Did you see the game they made out of it? I think the website is ncase.me. Wonderful display of it.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 05:09 PM
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I agree that the old moral values in western culture are now being used as a way to keep the men playing by said rules while the women throw them out when it's convenient and too late. My stance is, I will reciprocate up to the point they're not reciprocated back. Copycat morality if you will. It allows you to keep the pragmatism in the morals without falling prey to one sided application. It's the best way to handle it by my estimation. This is largely based on game theory.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 04:11 PM
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My take on these situations is that the context in which it happens is important. Most of the situations I know personally are extremely beta men trying to play hero for a woman that would have never chosen them in their prime. It's generally a sad position to be in where desperate men think they finally have an actual shot when they're just the runner up. No man who respects himself will be happy or satisfied with that position in a woman's mind. That being said, it's a good thing for children …
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 10:53 PM
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I mean...it kind of varies according to your location but in the south I haven't had an issue supporting a family of 4 on roughly 55k a year. The trick is to treat your finances like you do a good diet. Get the necessities out of the way and severely limit the excess. You'd be surprised how far a check can go if you don't blow it on things like alcohol or tobacco for example.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/18 10:23 PM
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My strategy with my daughters is that I tell them truth to the best of my knowledge. I know they're probably going to fuck up eventually but I'll try my best to warn them about the dangers of irresponsible sexuality. They'll of course be girls and probably have a few bad experiences but the role of the father is to explain those bad experiences in a truthful way that they can absorb and learn from. Especially if their immediate family tries to instill a victim complex in them. Try to have a good…
/r/TheRedPill15/05/18 05:53 PM
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Saw it in the air force time and time again. I have ways thought since then that the military is the best place to observe redpill truths in action. The inhibitions are smaller since it's a bunch of young strangers with almost no social attatchments.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/18 01:33 PM
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I had that issue deciding between a few hobbies. I ended up going with the one I was already deeper into knowledge wise and had social proof from. (Guitar) The more you divide your time, the less you can devote to mastering each hobby. Keep that in mind.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/18 11:48 AM
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No one was trying to fool you. Relax. The guy was just giving his opinion on the dangers of excessive sexual gratification. Is this edginess a side effect of the pill or something? Jesus.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/18 11:41 AM
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Well the day you figure out that the "no moralizing" bullshit is the exact same as the "no slutshaming" tactic, come back and talk to me. Until then enjoy your solipsism I guess. For however long it suits your shallow interests.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 04:11 AM
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(slow clap) you sure got me.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/18 11:35 PM
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I don't buy that. Useful people do what is going to be in their best interest and the interest of everyone around them simultaneously. Anything less is self-serving and one dimensional in a way that is going to make things worse at the end of the day. We don't live in a vacuum. Everything we do matters. You can justify all kinds of bullshit with the above reasoning. What we want isn't always good. Accepting that is the cornerstone of the humility an adult needs to properly function in the world.…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/18 11:12 PM
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Meh. It's not for me honestly. I think mothers should be attending to the children. The time spent pursuing a career could be better spent raising their children. There is a multitude of emotional needs you just can't satisfy as a working mom. I say that from experience being raised by a working mom. I understand some women just don't have that luxury. It's a shame but it doesn't change what the optimal setup is.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/18 12:02 AM
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So just have children but don't marry. Just establish paternity.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/18 01:58 AM
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You can't be optimally both. At least in a way that doesn't seriously risk fucking up your children in the process.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/18 01:18 AM
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The reason there are so many miserable married men is because they are likely not handling the relationship right and letting wifey run the ship. They probably shouldn't be married at all and they should have really made up their minds if they wanted a family or not. I meet too many guys these days that clearly don't want the families they make. It's really sad. I have 3 kids myself but I took complete responsibility for them and do my best to ensure their life goes smooth. Nobody else will and …
/r/TheRedPill07/05/18 12:47 PM
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It isn't a stable solution. Sure it might have stopped him in that instance but think about the precedent it sets. Loser men demand sexual attention or they blow people up. I don't think we want to go down that road. Whatever Elliot Rodger was, I don't want to see more of it. Women were right to reject him.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/18 11:20 AM
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Wait so what exactly is your gripe then? Having a basic grasp of myth? The fuck does that mean? If there are ideals or lessons to be learned then it follows that some forms of religion are closer to the truth than others. Granted it could be the case that none of the current versions of religions are complete yet.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/18 06:34 PM
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Well it's obvious who hasn't. Nice set of straw men. Jordan Peterson talks about those ideas predating Christianity. If you'd actually read his material, you'd know that he stresses that religions are prone to corruption and have to be updated with current knowledge to stay relevant and useful. Nevertheless, to say there is no wisdom in religious traditions is childish. You're critique of judeo Christian thought is fedora-tipping level at best. Grow the fuck up dude. Ideals are a good thing.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/18 04:14 PM
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Yep. It's not that the winners never lost, it's just that they didn't lose for long. They reflected on their losses and adjusted strategy. Everyone has a catalyst for this stuff. It's just a matter of how much it's going to take before you swallow it.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/18 07:38 PM
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Yep. True wisdom requires experience. It's almost as if you're doomed to view things from a naive lense until you go through rough times. That's why I've always liked the saying "to hell and back". You have to go through hell to understand the need for heaven.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/18 01:09 PM
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The cultural disdain for the SAHM is such a shame. It's effectively emotionally disarming children before they have a chance to be properly socialized and nurtured. Any married men reading this who are attempting the dual income with kids thing be warned. It's not in your favor. You've actually double fucked yourself by first marrying and then buying into the whole career woman crap. If they spend most of their time around coworkers, you'll naturally be a lower priority. You won't have enough ti…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/18 11:32 AM
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The main aspect of attraction that isn't malleable is social competence. It must be built on experience. They look for that first and foremost because it doesn't lie. Women are used to men lying to appear like a better catch so of course they've learned to be picky and pick up on social cues to judge your competence. They want to see if it's just a rehearsed game or if it's your own competence and confidence.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/18 01:45 PM
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That helps I guess but that's like buying aloe Vera gel prior to getting sun burned.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/18 02:14 PM
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Doesn't mean you have to make it worse by risking alimony and all your assets. Child support is understandable in principle. If you make a kid you SHOULD be held financially responsible for it. How much the payments are could use some adjustment though.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/18 02:11 PM
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People in this sub are so bad about conflating "relationship" with "marriage". You can have a solid relationship without marrying anyone. You can even have children and not marry. The marriage part is you making a foolish bet just to flaunt how awesome you think your relationship is at the moment. Stay humble and just don't marry. You maintain the power of leaving that way. That's your only weapon in a gynocentric society.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/18 11:33 PM
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Then why get one? Just have kids with someone who is really into you and isn't a complete fuck up. If they demand marriage, next em.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/18 11:27 PM
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Why men bother telling women not to do things is beyond me. When you tell them not to do things, you give them the ammo to claim victim. Just take it as the sign it is that they're not as good as you thought. They want to do shitty things. Accept it. Don't fight it. Just punish/reward accordingly.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/18 10:44 PM
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Lol. Men are a disaster themselves. Just count the amount of soyboys you see running around acting like hedonistic faggots.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/18 07:30 PM
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it doesn't matter if it's good or bad for civilization Bullshit. Kids are suffering more than anyone. And not in any way they understand. Any civilization that eats it's own before they can renew the dying culture is doomed for dysfunction and ultimately destruction. This is a nihilistic attitude and it actually harms everyone eventually. this is a great time to be a man. Yet...a horrible time to be a boy. I take it you have no children or spend very small amounts of time with any. Would this be…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/18 05:36 PM
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He may try to play only by the first, but that will do no good when everyone else is playing a different game. This is a key point for me. I think taking a copycat stance towards the situation is ideal. A copycat stance would be to reward women with an appropriate display of strategy 1 if and ONLY if they manifest strategy 1 themselves. The question is: Is marriage a permanent forfeiture of the ability to withdraw strategy 1 rewards to the female that decides to abandon strategy 1 mid-relationsh…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/18 05:23 PM
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I didn't say anything about not having a mother around. Lol. You can cohabitate and raise kids without getting the government involved.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/18 01:53 PM
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You don't have to marry to have a family.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/18 04:35 AM
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Right. I'm not saying don't hold frame but do it using as little words as necessary. Too many words makes it look like you think about it too much or are trying too hard. You don't have to give away what you appreciate. That's unnecessary information.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 03:51 PM
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Yeah that's a good one. I've used it before.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 03:05 PM
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A threat is different than an admission of being bothered over what someone said. When you say you don't appreciate what they said that means it had some influence on you. As if you expected them to say something approving.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 03:05 PM
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I wouldn't even bother telling people you "don't appreciate". That actually means their opinion bothers you. I usually just say "okay" sarcastically or amusingly and leave it at that. Sometimes I'll even just walk away mid conversation. They get the point eventually.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 12:22 PM
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Oh man you're in for a treat then. The AF is FULL of TRP behavior. I just finished 8 years last year. The money isn't much if you enlist but you'll definitely make friends and have plenty of chances to drink. Just don't marry.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 06:49 PM
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Assholes don't just fall out of the sky, they're created. The very existence of this sub betrays your sentiment. The knowledge here has already inspired memes. It's not a secret. It's just not taken as serious as it should be by naive young men.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/18 05:19 PM
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Eh. Sounds like the easy way to success sure. I'd rather be challenged personally. Makes for better men instead of confused manlets that shoot up schools.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/18 05:05 PM
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I disagree. The more it's recognized, the more it's pulled out into the open where it belongs. It may result in introspection. You never know.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/18 02:27 PM
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That's not what I was advocating. I'm just saying that the traditional route of marriage is suboptimal given the new culture. I think relationships can be great if you're someone who is figured out. But until the culture stabilizes, I can't honestly encourage legal marriage to young men my age. Given the statistics, it's a shit deal.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/18 05:54 PM
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I see it as more like "most women have become whores, so while we wait for this culture crisis to get sorted, we will take what we can get without putting ourselves through the grinder".
/r/TheRedPill28/02/18 05:40 PM
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Feminism is the backlash from unchecked male irresponsibility. Every guy that didtched the mother of his kids to bang someone else slowly created the resentment that triggered it. It didn't come out of nowhere.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/18 07:37 AM
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I think it's interesting that no matter what side you're on, the ideologues get pissed at JBP. Coincidence? Maybe.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/18 03:45 PM
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I said nothing about you. I used an example like that to demonstrate how useless your strategy is. Go read a book on normative ethics and drop the ego. You sound like a thug. Probably are now that I think about it.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 06:41 PM
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Well Hitler wanted genocide and he got it so he must have been a real man. Great logic bro.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 04:13 AM
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Yeah but how we want to live is going to depend on how well we understand things. Stupid people want to live recklessly and hedonistic. Just because we want something doesn't make it good in the long run.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 11:18 PM
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So what is the solution then? MGTOW?
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 05:13 PM
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He has addressed the female side of the problem before. I forget the names of the videos. He has even mentioned the family courts being atrocious. The reason he advocates to still take the risk is because he thinks the alternative will be worse for children if the norm changes. He actually does a good job of addressing the male side of these issues as well. Something that doesn't get fair consideration here in my opinion. Not saying I necessarily agree with him but thats where he's coming from. …
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 12:18 PM
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Yeah that sounds about right. Men used to be as experienced as the average woman. This helped with their egos for marriage. But since that has been changed, a lot of men find themselves feeling less experienced than the women and thus a weaker frame.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 01:49 PM
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When I read about some of the situations on here where cheating/cucking is occurring, I wonder how the men in these relationships were ever comfortable with the situation. If you stay with or marry a woman who gets drunk, clubs, goes on trips alone, works around a bunch of men, etc. you are asking for it. The only reason I ever had kids personally was because the mom agreed to stay at home and raise them...and I STILL DNA tested them. Lol. My point is that if you're going to try the whole family…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/18 03:47 PM
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Until some babies come into the picture...your comment is so short-sighted. This is why I believe that the primary motivator for committed relationships is children. They don't seem to have any meaningful context outside of that. Men and women don't feel how much they NEED each other until then because neither are vulnerable enough. Children show you real quick how much women are needed.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/18 02:01 PM
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I think all he means by that is to discover how to feel and have fun. Something chads are naturally good at. Men tend to get very obsessive and rigidly logical about things. It has it's advantages but also a few disadvantages if you cant flip the switch to something more mellow when socializing. I think that is the essence of what Jung was meaning.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/18 01:10 PM
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Didn't a study recently reveal that there was no female ejaculation and that it was actually just them pissing themselves?
/r/TheRedPill09/01/18 12:57 PM
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But try not to conflate the contract part with the commitment part. They don't have to be a package deal but for some reason that's the only way people are conceptualizing it. Once it's a contract, commitment is forced on the male end.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/18 06:48 PM
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Bitches that are fat or uglier than you, do not deserve your precious cock and could only be used as blowjob artists, but even then, it's probably better if you don't do it. Could you elaborate on this one?
/r/TheRedPill02/01/18 06:09 PM
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Being married only sucks if you lose frame or control of it. Most men who marry end up becoming beta because they're initially satisfied and let themselves go. Now I do believe marriage is pointless but it's not like you have NO control of how it goes. You just have to be a step ahead of the women you're with emotionally. Don't get with women who are emotionally more intelligent than you.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/18 06:07 PM
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High SMV guys indulge in party sluts all the time. It's not really a hit to their value to do so. By thirsty I mean thirsty for sex in the moment. Not in general. It might be a great way to get experience but it has a side effect.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 07:49 PM
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High SMV guys indulge in party sluts all the time. It's not really a hit to their value to do so. By thirsty I mean thirsty for sex. Not relationships. It might be a great way to get experience but it has a side effect. Can't have it both ways.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 07:38 PM
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Dare I say that thirsty men might be perpetuating these scenarios when they go for low hanging fruit?
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 03:53 PM
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Good on you for not bullshitting her about it. Only desperate men have to hide the truth to get laid.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 05:55 PM
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You really have to just be able to spot the red flags. They will be common if you live in an urban area. Slightly less common with women in rural settings. Just call a spade a spade and move on if you get that gut feeling. Nothing you can do about it just stay sharp and pay attention.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 11:35 PM
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We can "manipulate nature" right up until nature sends a hurricane/tidal wave/earthquake at us to prove that we really are just "mere humans" after all. But we still can...I'm failing to see what exactly your point is here. If we were to just bend over and let nature fuck us then you can say goodbye to this subreddit or the device you used to access it. Your perspective is self defeating and retarded.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/17 11:19 PM
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Like men are. Lol. Attractive people have less need of loyalty. It's not just a female thing.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/17 02:06 PM
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Say that all you want but you'd be either dead or a miserable mess if you didn't have civilization and a semblance of culture to protect you when you grew up. "Mere humans" sounds like self defeatist bullshit to me. Humans can be incredibly powerful. We are now able to manipulate nature at will because we understand it. Mere my ass.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/17 02:05 PM
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Well he definitely didn't have all the answers but I happen to firmly believe he was correct about how sexuality is primary in our subconscious motives.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/17 04:13 PM
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I don’t care about the system and our society, I care about myself. Why is that a necessary dichotomy? You can do both you know. You can even care about yourself more and it's still fine because your well being ties directly into the well being of the others and vice versa. So it's really a little bit of nihilism if you think about it. If my life’s purpose is just to produce a human...then fucking kill me right now. What else are you going to do when you're 50 plus years old? Sit around and reme…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/17 11:51 AM
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Those are professions we take up to make life safer, more comfortable and/or less boring. You couldn't have any of that if we had never become the population we are. The problems in any society stem from shitty childhoods and irresponsible parents. You eat away at the system you thrive in when you make anything else more important than the proper development of kids.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 09:57 PM
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Right. So what if we say that your relationships with women and the way you contribute to human evolution is probably the most important thing to do effectively? Everything else pales in comparison as far as I can tell.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 09:50 PM
0

That part I get. But it seems to me that how we handle the process of creating and sustaining the vessels is of the utmost importance.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 08:09 PM
3

Discover oneself? For what purpose? Just to do it?
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 06:53 PM
2

The "success" you have in life is for what end though? For the sake of it? Maybe that's what frustrates so many here. It ultimately ties back into sexuality. Sexuality and reproduction is like a makeshift barometer for scoring value in people. Trying to divorce your purpose from your biology will only result in depression and anxiety. If you think this isn't about sex, read Freud.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 06:47 PM
8

This is the best way to pass through the anger phase. To realize it isn't the best way for sexuality to play out. It just leads to more betas.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 02:04 PM
1

No. All I'm saying is the responsibility of developing a functional morality lays at the feet of each individual. Not a society as a whole.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/17 01:56 PM
2

Right but...whos in control of their morality again. Oh yeah. You. Funny how that works.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 04:53 AM
2

Yeah I can agree with that. It can be too rigid and unnecessarily hinder proper development in people. I guess the distinction is between necessary government and some kind of Oedipal over reach. Good point.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 04:50 AM
0

Oh ok, if I'm not a slave to the state then I'll just stop paying my taxes and have zero consequences for it. Right? Last time I checked we're not forced to live here. Move somewhere else. Seriously. Stop bitching about it on reddit and go to another country. Government is the reason that the middle east is a theocratic shit hole. The only reason the US isn't is because most people here don't want it to be that way. Bullshit. Theocratic shit holes develop because of the way other countries run T…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/17 11:27 AM
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Do you even understand the ways in which you benefit from having a government? I'm not saying government is perfectly ran but you're really being dishonest if you suggest that you're a slave to it. Our government at least keeps us from being a theocratic shit hole like the middle east. This whole nihilistic "fuck the government" mentality is so stupid. You grow up your whole life protected by it and then turn around and hate it because you can't handle your own resentment of it's imperfections.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/17 12:47 AM
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Yet conveniently you'll benefit from it every day of your life. Funny how that works.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/17 12:44 AM
92

Even Children No. I don't think you've thought that one through. If you decide to abandon children you create, you're no better than the women you complain about when they abandon men when it's convenient for them. You're creating a problem and then leaving it for society to clean up. That makes you a degenerate.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/17 07:36 AM
1

Exactly. It doesn't stand the test of time. This is why MGTOW will not be a workable solution to the problems men are facing today. It may be a quick fix but forgoing the search for a woman suitable enough to have and raise children with is genetic suicide. The risks might be high but isn't that part of it? You can at least arm yourself with the knowledge presented here and outperform the neckbeards by every metric. It won't eliminate risk but it will increase your chances tenfold.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/17 09:49 PM
2

I really hope I'm mistaken about this but I think the PRIMARY underlying motivation to be a top tier male is in fact to be successful in reproduction with attractive females. It may be subconscious even. Success in males has always been mostly to have success with females. Everything else, evolutionarily speaking, is secondary. Science and technology were driven by the desire to improve the living conditions of not only ourselves but our tribes and empires. With this in mind, I really can't help…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/17 07:38 PM
1

I can agree with that. The comparison is only good for establishing frame. Otherwise, it's a circle jerk and can make dudes overly bitter about women.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/17 02:46 AM
1

I...agree. :). Neither sex is really bringing much to the table these days if we're being honest.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/17 03:06 AM
5

Mom, cousins, aunts, grandmothers, etc.? Are you seriously suggesting that every woman you've ever known was negatively feminine? A unicorn is an unrealistic expectation of women. Always was. Just because perfect women don't exist doesn't mean all women are bad or out to get you. Like I get it. The culture has made them worse than before. It's made EVERYONE worse than before if you look at the whole picture.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/17 03:01 AM
2

I agree with you. They're not equal in the traditional sense of "sameness". Just different and better suited to different lifestyles than men. I mean when you compare them to men by male standards, of course they come up short. But that's a retarded way to look at women. It's the same half-assed social deconstruction that feminists/sjw's do.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/17 11:05 PM
3

It really depends on what standards you are judging by. That's my whole point. Surely more of you here would understand that you're bitterly projecting male values on women and for some reason surprised they come up short. It's just the wrong way to interpret women I think.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/17 07:25 PM
6

Seeing no value in MODERN women is not the same as feminine values having no merit or use. It's called positive femininity. It does exist and needs to be developed in young girls more than ever.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/17 06:38 PM
2

but let's be honest, most of the time it's true. No. Not even remotely. Men are better at being men. That has very little to do with what makes a woman "good". Feminine values aren't inherently "worse" than masculine ones. They're actually better for social work and dealing with children if developed properly. I wasn't suggesting feminism was positive femininity. It's the result of misconstrued values. Feminism was created when penis envy got out of control. So we agree really. I just think it's…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/17 06:35 PM
203

Yeah I get fed up with the whole "men are inherently superior" crap that gets peddled here. Men like to believe they are superior according to their own values. It's the same for women. Hence feminism. The truth is both are valuable in differing contexts. Understanding these contexts and differing values is the key to strong frame. Don't let the resentment of feminine values prevent you from respecting their place in the world. It ultimately leads to a stronger frame.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/17 04:02 AM
4

This whole "control the masses" notion always seemed a bit bullshit in my opinion. I just see it as educated people taking advantage of collective human psychology for profit. It's not like it's forced. The way out of the cycle is to educate yourself and decide what is meaningful to pursue and what isn't. If the masses were truly being controlled, none of us would be on here saying this shit. If there is really any control, it's very shitty.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 02:57 PM
1

So if BB raises, more BB are nurtured into society creating the epidemic of puss-whipped manlets we see today. It's really a loss in the long term isn't it?
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 12:10 AM
1

So any kind of provider role inevitably means less attraction? What if the best thing for children IS the male value system and the insistence on a female one for "fairness" is just a massive shit test that is failed often?
/r/TheRedPill20/10/17 07:43 PM
1

Interesting but...what if our idea of good father is warped?
/r/TheRedPill20/10/17 04:51 PM
2

A frequent occurrence in MRP are men who stop being faithful to their wives, divorce them, fall out of love. While I don't usually frequent MRP, I was married when I discovered TRP. I'll be divorced come December. The only thing that justifies it to me is that I was cheated on in my marriage. TRP gave me the understanding that it was probably not "fixable" after something like that. They're forever someone else's girl first before yours and they proved it with their actions. Which seems to make …
/r/TheRedPill20/10/17 11:01 AM
6

Holy virtue signal Batman! You either haven't read the side bar much or you're a lurking woman yourself.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 07:50 PM
7

You can have a good relationship with marriage AND without marriage. You're more likely to KEEP it good without marriage hanging over the dynamics of it but at the same time, you don't have to care if it goes south. You can more easily move on and just find another plate.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/17 09:55 PM
2

I think the best way to be MGTOW is to get women hooked and just never commit like they want you to. That's what really pisses them off. They hate having alpha male meat dangled in front of them but never being able to keep it. The avoid women approach just seems like an over-reaction. One that results in being ejected from the gene pool. Not worth it in my opinion but for others it doesn't seem to be an issue. To each their own.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/17 11:43 PM
1

It's fine to blame other things as long as the solution is to adjust strategy accordingly rather than sit back and wait for changes to come from the top. By suggesting one side of any conflict is the problem, you're leaving out a lot of the complexities of the conflict. Blame can be on both parties to varying degrees. More difficult to dissect but probably closer to the truth if you ask me.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/17 11:38 PM
5

Well what I meant was if you have your shit together and understand the nature of the game, you won't have anything to fear because you'll be in a superior position. I mean...if you are trying to stick to one female then yeah you have much to fear. Otherwise, no harm no foul.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/17 09:27 PM
7

I think a take-away from all of this should be that women's hypergamy is a positive thing at the end of the day. It can be harsh and brutal but it nevertheless led to the furthering of the species. No male wants to be told or shown proof that he is insufficient. But at the same time, some mechanism needs to be in place for selecting the best of the bunch. This is the purpose of hypergamy. You should have no reason to fear or look down upon hypergamy if you're a man with your shit together. Perio…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/17 08:17 PM
3

True. Nobody owes anyone anything yet we're all better off if we believe we owe each other a bit of effort in the attempt to sustain civilization. At least to my knowledge, that's what civilization is. It's the sign of a fucked up individual to reap the benefits of civilization and then turn around and shit all over it with their behavior. You're taking but not giving. That will not last. That's pretty much what the "decline" is.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/17 12:14 AM
3

Yeah. There is a difference between just reaping the benefits of a fucked up situation and enjoying the fact that such a situation exists for your gain in the first place.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/17 12:08 AM
71

Props to that dude for actually contacting you. Exactly. Guys that take joy in the downfall of another male are no better than the women they despise. Fuck those guys.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/17 05:42 PM
3

Now that I think about it, it's almost like the experience or hormones of pregnancy make them needier and/or more awake to the reality of how serious sexuality can be. It's like they don't really grasp why they NEED you around until then. Could just be an act to garner security but that explanation would only make sense if the sex was also infrequent. Definitely something to this though.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 05:35 PM
2

I see. In that case, marriage seems like a shit-test. Marriage is essentially relationship-insurance for a woman. It's almost like she's saying "yeah I know you're a good guy and everything buuuuut...just in case...ya know? :)". I think that eliminates a necessary pressure on her to TRY in a relationship. Especially when they have options everywhere. As a male, you probably don't even if you're attractive especially if you work a lot.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/17 04:41 PM
2

Ah. I see. Okay. Fair enough.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/17 08:03 PM
2

It would be bad for the kids to be born out of wedlock. Why? I don't understand this. Are you suggesting the only way a woman will have children with you is if you risk everything?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/17 06:30 PM
3

I'm still unsure if the legal part is worth it though. Say you found a woman that would be a good mother and stick around even with no legal marriage contract. Would you still want to get married? Or are you rationalizing the decision to do so after the fact because now she'd leave if she didn't have you by a contract? Honestly curious. Not trying to be a dick or anything. I'm in a similar situation.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/17 03:29 PM
6

Life is inherently random and meaningless and this is a reality that most people can't accept. As in a cosmic level of meaning? Sure. It doesn't make the universe a bit of difference whether humans live or die. But that doesn't and possibly shouldn't matter to us either. So what if the universe is ultimately without a unifying meaning? It makes us no difference here and now. This nihilistic realization is part of maturing and eventually we realize that at least SOME system is necessary. But ever…
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 06:06 PM
12

Fucking a hot mate is one thing. Marrying a hot mate is probably not a good idea.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/17 08:06 PM
3

MMA interested him more. How the fuck is boxing more athletic than MMA? No ground game, referee break ups, etc. I'm struggling to understand your logic here.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/17 02:24 PM
7

So people are helping McGregor stay winning? Please explain that one. Why won't other people just destroy him and take some of the hype for themselves. Nate Diaz managed something to that effect. The hype exists because he consistently won in the past. Hype doesn't come out of nowhere. Who else should be in Mcgregor's position? I see people like you constantly desperately trying to rationalize why people shouldn't hype a fight. You're just starting to sound like a crab at the bottom of a bucket …
/r/TheRedPill21/08/17 02:18 PM
5

Isn't that talented...okay. Keep telling yourself that.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/17 11:17 AM
22

Because those boxers didnt have the reputation of boxing on the line with their fights. The mayweather mcgregor fight is one of the first of its kind. The money is the result of the public's interest in a fight like this. You can play contrarian all you want, it IS an interesting fight. Calling McGregor talentless or a sham just makes you look interestingly bitter about the whole thing. McGregor holds two championship belts yet he's an imposter....get the fuck out of here with that shit. The guy…
/r/TheRedPill21/08/17 11:16 AM
-2

Maybe. I'm not so sure though. At least fatherless kids look to outside sources for a good role model and possibly find one. With a chronically gaming father, they likely learn to live introvertedly and become socially awkward.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/17 07:15 PM
17

She should be neither. Just something to avoid.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/17 03:44 PM
-7

To be fair, the average modern father is likely to be bad for the kids too. I've witnessed fathers trying to get their kids to play world of Warcraft with them.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/17 03:42 PM
1

It's backfired several times with some great girls, which is a shame. That means something you're doing is ineffective at achieving your goal. Why should anyone else adopt your strategy? That used to be the norm for both sexes, and was respected, but it seems like times have changed a lot. Right. That's kind of the whole point of TRP. What if I told you there was a fine line you could balance on in regards to the whole alpha/beta thing? Maintain stoic outcome independence but open up to people a…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/17 11:36 PM
11

The alpha/beta dynamic is taken to psychopathic extremes sometimes. There is nothing wrong with being genuine around someone regardless of their sex. The issue I see is that what is considered "normal" behavior by most modern men is generally quite feminine. It's been a part of the modern attitude for years now. There is nothing wrong with caring for people but as a man, it shouldn't be your primary concern. That meaning don't sacrifice too much just to show you care about someone. Maintain your…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/17 07:07 PM
17

The solution here is to integrate the projected image with the true self. Talk the talk and walk the walk. Nothing about us is set in stone. Change what you don't like about yourself to match the image you wish to project. That way you no longer have to worry about projecting an image. You will be the image at your core.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/17 01:19 PM
1

Hehe. This is true. Whatever allows one to escape responsibility for sonething I guess.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/17 12:49 PM
3

Good friends add value to your life in some form. The bad kind of friends are the ones that siphon it from you. Just remember that and you'll be golden. Trust your gut and watch people like a hawk. Everything means something. Nothing happens "just because" or for "no reason".
/r/TheRedPill13/08/17 09:33 PM
6

well, if your intention was only to fuck his GF, you are actually a little dark triad but.. sex strategy is immoral as TRP is teaching.. nothing wrong with that.. True. Sexual strategy doesn't require moral prescriptions. But saying "nothing wrong with that" assumes a moral prescription right? If you're going to be fully amoral, there will be no wrong or right for you. Things just are. To be amoral is to completely do away with subjective or prescriptive truths. A harsh way to live in my opinion…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/17 06:26 PM
29

Eh. If he's that much of a beta then I would say bang away. If not you then someone else. She's not married so he's a glorified orbiter basically. I personally don't find much value in having beta friends. They tend to drag you down. Having alpha male friends you can trust IS valuable. Betas...not so much.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/17 04:12 AM
152

I consider it to be the most beta thing to do as a guy. Betray close friends over pussy. Saw it time and time again in the military. Absolutely destroys unit cohesion. Fucking a chick who "has a boyfriend" that you don't even know is another thing entirely. But when you befriend another dude and use that friendship to cuck him, you're basically another female at that point.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/17 07:31 PM
1

The reason I advocate mid/forefoot is because it takes the force off of the ankle and knees and keeps you more forward with your stride. The calves can handle the force of the strike better and you'll avoid more knee and ankle problems. That's why most professional runners are mid/forefoot strikers.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/17 09:40 PM
8

And for the love of Seneca please make sure shoes and form are squared away before attempting a long distance run. Learn what a heel lock is and make sure your shoes fit snug. Go for a mid foot strike with each step. It will feel like you're running on your toes but don't worry. It's better than letting the heel strike first. It should start hurting in the calves when you first start but give them time to get conditioned to it. It takes the stress off your shins when you do this.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/17 10:58 AM
2

Religion seeks to control men, make them subservient, obedient, bow to a supposedly "higher" power. Religions may have been taken to that extreme throughout history but the idea wasn't to make them subservient to any other man. The idea was to promote respect in the ultimate dominance hierarchy. The hierarchy with nature/god at the top which man is always subservient to whether he likes it or not. Recognizing that fact is the first step in existential humility. Sure religion sought control and o…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:28 PM
1

Well, if women are the ones having a problem with honor, then they'll also have a hard time sticking to their religious convictions. I don't trust their capacity to hold themselves accountable even to a God. I just don't see the reason men agree to marriage by the state. Why not just take religious vows in front of each other and the God and let that be that. I'm sure marriage licenses are a modern invention anyway.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 11:00 AM
3

I'm currently struggling with the idea that modern marriage is a good thing even biblically. The current social climate isn't nearly as compatible with marriage as it used to be. Why not just be with a particular woman without unnecessary risks of the modern legal contract? Commit, have kids, etc. but none of that REQUIRES marriage if you think about it. A balance of power is necessary before a relationship can be fair.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 05:59 AM
2

It's just a LTR though. Get it all out of your system while you can. A lot of that you feel starting relationships is just the excitement of mystery. Don't expect that to last with anyone. If you don't want kids or anything like that, what is the point of LTR's? Just date and fuck around. That's where all the fun is right?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/17 11:13 PM
4

What do you mean by happiness? Being able to fuck whoever you want guilt-free? Happiness is a loaded term these days. Some ways of being happy last longer than others. I prefer to pursue ways of being happy that last longer than a nut.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/17 11:28 PM
3

He doesn't? Was he not able to exist and grow into what he is BECAUSE of that society? Hmm...funny how that works.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/17 11:09 PM
4

Noted. I have one eye/ear tuned in at all times. It's exhausting but it'll be over soon enough. I recently separated from the military and I honestly think it made me despise long-term contracts. I have a new respect for freedom you could say.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/17 08:36 PM
17

Just imagine if you had a daughter for a second. Is this the way you'd want some dude to treat her if she had been loyal and good to him? Some serious shit to think about. I'm not saying you're wrong but seriously consider the precedent you're setting when you do this. You'll add another sob story to the growing collective female mindset of "fuck guys. they leave you eventually anyway". And you know what? They're kind of right about that. O.o. It's up to you. Are you in the "enjoy the decline" c…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/17 06:05 PM
10

but the paragraph about gender identity makes me think you're still in college. He wasn't talking about gender identity. He was talking about sex differences and how they're being "hyper exaggerated" for profit. Google "supernormal stimuli" if you want to read more about it.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/17 03:21 PM
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Sheesh. That doesn't concern you? I'd be pulling the plug if a wife of mine said that shit. I'm actually about to get divorced myself when I can afford the filing fee. Wife says she understands and is agreeing to everything so it should be smooth. I realize I might be playing with fire and she could turn on me but I'd rather get it out of the way now rather than later when I have more shit to lose.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/17 03:10 PM
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