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I wonder how this "amazing" "debate" topic made it through both the filters and mods...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 04:48 PM
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Wow I'm so insulted by this screeching.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:20 PM
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Gotta wonder why "she" if it's even a she bothers yapping if she knows/admits she's messed up. Cheapo trolling IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:05 PM
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I did do it. Most women just ignore you. You = 0. Me = 1. Goodbye!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:09 PM
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The first one makes sense but the other 2 don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:56 PM
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Wow you can like read minds all the way across the Internet. You're really something man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:39 AM
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For the purposes of this forum I believe that some aspects of AF/BB are true, as well as 80/20 and RP hypergamy. The flair comes from my acceptance of parts of these ideas of the "RP blogs."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:09 PM
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Cool man you enjoy living in your own little world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:06 PM
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You got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:04 PM
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If red pilled is "understanding how reality works" and not "something some random bloggers said" then I'm far more red pilled than you or most people here. Let me know your definitions and we'll go from there, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:37 PM
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They aren't being settled for in any big way at all given that they are comparably sexually attractive to the STR men (and that's charitably assuming differences in the groups ONLY came from that group of traits) and even less so because they are way more attractive than some one trick comic alphas you've cooked up based on some study which you probably misinterpreted or that doesn't exist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:27 PM
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HAH yeah they were able to find differences which hit the statistical significance level but other than that both groups were getting laid and both groups had men that were sexually attractive. Just that sexual attraction took a slight back seat in the STR group. Wow, who would have thought it? Basically you think "detectable differences in groups" equals "very different men" and that's a huge mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:13 PM
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Yes, I literally just covered this with you. They're short term mates. Men that women sleep with in one night stands or have casual sex relationships with. They do this with your so called "high betas" as well so it's a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 04:54 PM
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Alphas are worthless to most women as they are not giving them, even from a young age what they want in a partner. And FFS someone came up with more of these ever evolving terms around here? None of the actual reds who come here will know WTF you're talking about. Never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 04:43 PM
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Under this breakdown alphas are basically one trick pony men who are only sexually attractive any have nothing else going for them. Beta then is anything from fat spineless idiot to sexually attractive well to do white collar pro which makes "beta" here a useless term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 04:27 PM
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No I'm literally snickering at your comment. I'm pointing out to all other people reading that they proof is in the research on this topic which can be done on Google with a little bit of effort. I do not care enough to post links they are easy enough to find. That's all there is to it. Nice try with your little mind games though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:25 PM
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Yeah I guess. "They are all fucked anyway so I might as well do whatever and not give a shit."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:23 PM
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LOL not just because you said so though byebye now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:23 PM
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Google for the "Am I normal" penis study. It's some huge data thing that will tell you all about real penis size and not made up bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:04 AM
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The guy I was describing (and the one you described) was not romantically involved though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:03 AM
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I mean you're talking to this guy for hours for the 3rd of 4th time in a month about all sorts of personal things. You made out once. You probably have some feelings for him. He also raw fucked a girl from your whatever class the night before who you sorta know. That situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:03 AM
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Sounds like a weird defense mechanism of some sort honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:00 AM
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Thicken Longshaft is definitely superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:00 AM
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There is no debate here bud - look at reported sex frequencies for single and taken people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 02:59 AM
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LOL people physically get off from very similar stimulation. The small differences and preferences anyone with half a brain can figure out if they communicate effectively. That and the same woman wiht n = 1 could have easily tried out all and MORE techniques because she has had more times in the sack (opportunities) to try those things. And in practice most casual sex is drunk random fucking. So your point is moot on so many levels its not even funny. And that sexual compatibility shit is only a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 02:57 AM
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Maybe the last statement is true but the 1 partner woman will have much more than 10 total sex times lol ... MUCH more. And sexual compatibility is just some made up buzz phrase here. Most normal people are completely compatible sexually except total freaks and weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:31 PM
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Experienced with what? Penis shapes? I bet most n = 1 women have as much practically useful experience in bed as your n = 15 woman. Because in case you forgot, most actual sex sex happens in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:27 PM
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I can't speak for all other men but the sluts we casually sleep with we really have no reason to care about very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:59 PM
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I don't know about obsessions but I'll talk about aversions. I and many other men are averse to high n counts because our life experience tells us that high n count women are a bad bet for LTRs. The studies are found later to confirm this. We don't care about n counts for random hos we fuck. We don't respect high n count sluts and we don't want to LTR them. That's all there is to it really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:03 PM
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Same thing in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:51 PM
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No you don't ... the small balls point is about the guys who are orbiting and don't pull the trigger. Hence the women deal with the small ball orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:32 PM
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I mean I didn't expect that of men I dated, You said this meaning you assumed they were going to keep dating or fucking other women while you got to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:31 PM
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I never said it's uncommon. Lots of men with small balls out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:15 PM
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I mean you just assumed the worst about the guys I guess but that kind of mindset can be a slippery slope if it goes too far (though obviously some healthy skepticism is good). It all depends on your standards, their standards and how long you're willing to wait / patience to vet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:15 PM
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OK but that's not the same as 1 woman being on the receiving end of 6 men "chatting" to her as orbiters. The women aren't really doing anything much, while you were dating all 3 actively. This is all in reference to this comment of yours to be clear: It’s incredible how many guys women can talk to and juggle at once. That’s just kind of the benefit or privilege of being female and having the passive role in dating. At most, I was able to talk and date 3 girls at once. Taking the active, masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:13 PM
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Of course lol why do you want to extract some stupid double standards from me or other men lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:09 PM
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You're right, but if she doesn't like Office Guy that much, she might not tell him it's over right away (leave him hanging) and worse accept a date 2 even though she's BLEH about him. Hence their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 07:01 PM
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I mean alright alright that phrasing is hyperbolic (I would hope) but date 1 super chemistry isn't that rare, again, unless you are saying "yes" to longshots and fence sitters. If she really likes you after date 1, she should be focusing on seeing you ASAP and the other guys kinda disappear till further notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:50 PM
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It's funny how brainwashed some blues have become here with Manospherian terms lol. It's incredible. You weren't this bad 3-4 years ago when this sub just started and I posted for a few months here on another account.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:46 PM
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Lol postponing a date (the Saturday one in your example) for some time in the future to see how things go with the Office guy (assuming she enjoyed that date) isn't tantamount to swearing a blood oath to the Office guy lol. Yeah man like how is this hard to understand lol!! Their example proves that person's own absurdity haha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:45 PM
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He expects his women to have very high standards and avoid going on dates with men they aren't really in to (so no saying "yes" to supermarket PUAs lol). Basically it's from extended meeting cold approach (getting to know him for 1+ hours at a bar then setting up date 1), social circle dating or extensive profile online dating matches only). That's my take on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:42 PM
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It's fair game to assume these things under normal, real world circumstances. That's my point. Sure for PPD more clarity would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:38 PM
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This is true but also indicative of men with small balls ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:35 PM
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This mostly sounds like wussy ass men who don't make a move and try to orbit a chick for ages before doing so. You really shouldn't have three options as a man if you've pulled the trigger on these women. Ask them out, get to know them, and make a move. If you are doing that you will either be looking for someone to make the moves on OR going steady with one of the girls you made the moves on. Not "considering making moves on 3 options" aka wuss behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:35 PM
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I think people here assume that dating is more than date 1 type thing. They are assuming you keep seeing someone so sex becomes more likely. Also some people do fuck on the first date so these assumptions are fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:25 PM
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Yeah man this loose fence sitter attitude she's a proponent of is pretty telling lol You either casually fuck around and be open about it or get serious. The time loss from going 1 by 1 is like NOTHING unless your standards are SUPER low and you date everyone and everything. FFS...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:23 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:21 PM
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Assuming date 1 goes well in my eyes... I'd expect a kiss on date 1. and assuming date 2 happens (I assume she likes me if she agrees to date 2). Sex on date 2 possibly (2-3 weeks of knowing each other), likely on 3-4 (3-4 weeks of knowing each other). EDIT: I am assuming these are "night/dinner" dates and not "casual work lunch date." or some "happy hour not actual date but hanging out thing." If it's the last two then it's way more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:20 PM
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You don't see the point of avoiding distractions which allows for you to put your best foot forward? How do you rationalize that one? You're just saying you disagree but not actually explaining anything. OMG you had to wait like 1-2 weeks to go on a date with the second guy so what? At least you went in distraction free with the full intent on focusing on the guy who's spending time with you and not wondering if boy #2 is a better bet. Distractions make for problems with commitment and decision …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:16 PM
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What you're suggesting is pretty unrealistic anyway unless you're like in college or something (or low standards / low RMV) and end up with 2+ dates per week. You gotta have really low standards to say yes to that many men who are usually mid or low RMV anyway. OK ... So even if someone you end up with 2 guys asking you out per week why not just delay with the first guy till a week or 2 later and try out the first guy? Like what if you date both and you like both about equal, then what? You pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:09 PM
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What do you mean exactly to ask? She needs to go 1 at a time and once it fails she moves on to the next guy. This is how she "SEEs" if it ends up being something more. This can take as little as 1-2 weeks per guy and if she's remotely picky (she better be) then she won't be getting that many dates anyway... This makes her more available (literally time wise) and keeps mind games (playing guys off one another) and distractions to a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:58 PM
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Permanently or till she stops with the other guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:54 PM
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Well maybe that's why you need to avoid the casual daters and long shot takers? I definitely would. Those are the people that have no clue what they want in life or in a partner. Run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:52 PM
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She just has to be ready to take that step with NO reservations or distractions of any kind. She doesn't have to be my GF from date 1 but no distractions and reservations is super important. None of this wishy washy date bullshit. Don't like me after date 1? Tell me it ain't working and that's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:50 PM
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LOL yeah I mean if you wanna enjoy the sloppy seconds and "do whatever" dating attitude don't bitch and moan about your dating problems afterwards. Been there done that. Never again. Dating for most people means finding a lifelong partner and someone to start a family with. This shit isn't serious, it's as serious as it gets, PERIOD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:48 PM
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I know 2 girls with about average cam scores who worked on MFC bud. On top of that 2-3 more girls who I know on the site but not in person. So yeah what was your point again? That your friend is either a very special exception or full of shit? If so, we're all good. Nothing about her is normal, and a quick Google search will show you what "IRL" strippers make (45-70k range it seems for the norm).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 04:33 PM
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What would I find in Google on her? Not her verified income, so what? Some of the top models on MFC are cutesy next door types who simply mastered suckering guys along with teasing and seduction tactics, so if we you were implying she's "smoking hot" or some such arbitrary thing then that's not worth much here either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 04:22 PM
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8" is like 0.01% man. '> 6.5" is top 1% and anything larger than that becomes exponentially more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:40 PM
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So likely bullshit. I'd buy 89k for both. Average sex worker income is a good bit lower than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:37 PM
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Oh man you actually made me laugh. I'll have to use that as my next username somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:07 PM
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One more thing to throw into this mix here is people ending up "dating" or "on a date" with people who are just looking for casual sex / hookups but aren't completely explicit about this. That makes and even bigger mess. Hence everyone being up in arms about it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:02 PM
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People don't realize that girth is also important for both visual and physical stimulation. The relationship between girth and length is actually not that strong either aka chodes and pencil dicks are real. The real winners are thick and long. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:58 PM
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So I found this info on Google: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm#numberlifetime https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm#number12months Seems like the most legit US date, does anyone have more depth on this? Reporting medians, women have 4 lifetime partners and men about 6. Guess it makes sense to have different numbers for medians since men prefer casual sex and 10-15% use hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:55 PM
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I think the second definition was the OP definition though so that was the one being debated. Women basically chimed in with their own definition of "dating multiple people."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:52 PM
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To be honest it ain't so bad in certain demographics. The lower classes have been thoroughly fucked though. I have a working class family but my aunt/uncle/cousin's side of the family are for all intents and purposes the top of the upper middle class and things look way better there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:50 PM
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Ok evidently the whole meaning of "dating" here was all over the place and it would have been great if people elaborated on what they meant. It was basically anything from "getting drinks just to get to know a guy a bit" to "fucking 4-6 people over a 6-12 month time frame concurrently" lol to anything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:47 PM
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She made 189k on MFC + stripping? Sounds like bullshit but OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:46 PM
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I think people here are confusing the following lol.. 1) People who "no sex" date multiple people before having some kind of commitment/status talk 2) People who "fuck easy on the 1st date" date and see multiple partners in their search for their BF/GF It's hard to tell who is referring to what as "dating" ... It seems most people assume #2 is what comes with "dating multiple people" hence the outrage. Turns out most people just mean #1 with "drink date" and not "fuck date."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:39 PM
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Are people saying "dating" here to mean just no-sex dates? Like "get to know him/her over drinks" and nothing more than making out at most? I mean sex and dating are hard to split up completely. Eventually dating leads to "dating and fucking" if you are going steady and what not... so I wish people would be more clear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:36 PM
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Yeah it's a shitty situation all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:32 PM
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89k including the stripping right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:31 PM
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Ok if it's just grabbing drinks with multiple guys before moving forward with one guy then I have nothing to take issue with. That's not what was said before about "seeing multiple people for months at a time" though. Two totally different things here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:30 PM
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Not me? I said most people aren't doing that. I took issue with people who DO this whole "dating 4-6 different guys concurrently over a period of 6-12 months while sleeping with some or most of them."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:27 PM
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I explained it to you. Most people are NOT concurrently dating or fucking others. This is minority behavior and therefore not expected from MOST people. (For all others, see any sexuality stats for this). If you are dating 5 other people you should therefore be compelled to provide this important information to your suitors because honesty and transparency are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:13 PM
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Well assuming that you'll just be wrong most of the time and if you are the one doing that you'll be surprising (in a negative way) the other people who might tell you to fuck off shortly after or ghost you. Look at the sexuality stats for normal people (not ppd people, sorry). No one is concurrently fucking 5 men or women at a time for 6-12 months. That's called "sleeping around" and not how most people date. Most people who are seeing someone as a potential long term prospect even for 2-3 mont…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:11 PM
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I don't see the "being picky vs. not" point in the OP at all. The shoe analogy really doesn't help explain why concurrent dating is any better than 1 at a time dating which has nothing to do with pickiness. If you want to stick with this poor analogy then it's about TRYING each pair 1 at a time vs. trying on 5 pairs at the same time (impossible in real life, but this is how the analogy would work here). I'm not interested in debating that analogy though, so back to the point: if you know 5 peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:54 PM
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Yeah I used to do the "casually date and maybe screw around while I'm at it" thing 3-4 years ago and realized it was arguably a waste of time if you are looking for a lasting LTR. Too much time spent with incompatible people and too much time spent trying to get laid one extra time. Better things to do in life IMO. There's very little down side to focusing on 1 partner who you preemptively think would be a good match at a time because once you feel incompatible (you should know after like 1-4 da…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:45 PM
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100% yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:38 PM
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Smoking means lean waist and big (fake) tits? Lots of those there. Again, do you know how MFC works? You can see the cam scores for the girls, and 1000 = starting/average cam score. Try befriending these girls and ask them some questions. If they like you all will be revealed. Oh and the "average" chicks? I don't know man. If you look at some of the TOP rated (cam score) models they look a bit like girl next door types. Lots of guys would call them average (many are just naturally attractive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 07:52 PM
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They are making $5 per hour lol. It's very low paying work for the "average" cam girl in the West. This shit makes sense to girls in foreign countries who can leverage exchange rates / cost of living differences in their favor. In the West this shit is a waste of time for most girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 07:35 PM
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Lol dude don't be so gullible... Go befriend girls who work on MFC for example and have average cam scores. Ask them how much they make per month. I knew 2 girls like this in real life. They make like $400-600 per month working 20-25 days per month with 6 hour shifts on those days. Almost a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 07:27 PM
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Dominated huh? Hopefully you've got a better definition of that than one of the local retarded incels who's pretending to be a red piller that said that women like anal when you "just give it to her."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:55 AM
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Words don't have single fixed definitions and the words "the" and "a" offer pretty obvious variations to the word "breadwinner" but you keep pushing that agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 03:26 PM
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That's THE breadwinner. "A" breadwinner isn't exactly a rocket science concept. But have it your way. We can call it "very meaningful financial contributor" I don't care for this pedantic semantic argument you are pulling. That's reluctantly_red's point here obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 03:13 PM
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Sure you are wtf? 60-80K per year can pay for a good chunk if not half of fixed living expenses or send/save up a bunch of money for college for the kids or what not. Or pay for some really nice vacations without even exhausting 50% of that income. It's also an example where she's probably a good bit younger than him and he'll expect her to move up in pay grades sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:57 PM
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Err sure he does, to a point. Like reluctantly_red said she's A breadwinner and makes A breadwinner income for her/his socioeconomic level. Not "the" breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:37 PM
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It demonstrably depends on the guy and his income/education and her and her income/education. Most guys want her to have a good income ..up to his.. to a certain point. In other words he wants her to make up to 60-80k if he himself is making 80-100k. If he's making 50k he might think it's reasonable for her to make 30-50 or something. Of course if he's making 150k then he'll probably be fine with the 60-80k earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:31 PM
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The list of traits isn't that relevant here and would be a terrible metric because you can make the list as long or short as possible (the level of importance of each trait and its inclusion is totally arbitrary). So you basically just pointed out why that "length of traits list" metric would be terrible yourself. This is all completely irrelevant given that the link above basically showed that at the HIGHEST level (judging whole people, not individual traits) that men tend to agree more about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:57 AM
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Your latter point is just a baseless assumption. Please go read the paper since it answers this burning question of yours about variety of preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:37 PM
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You're just making up numbers dude there is no way you as one individual can know what a population average is with even the slightest degree of accuracy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:36 PM
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Well there's no better info so that's that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:36 PM
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Of course people can agree and have variety. We are talking about gender differences in that variety. Men have less variety (variation). What is confusing you? There could be a wide variety of dangerous things but women for example would have more agreement on what is dangerous than men. It sounds like you have a fairly weak understanding of statistics and you certainly didn't read that study given that you've been typing responses here for the last hour. I read it in it entirety within the last…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:29 PM
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Uh sex drive is the desire to orgasm. You can orgasm via masturbation. Sounds like you think sex drive = desire for validation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:27 PM
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Yeah I have. Nude beaches are not all European beaches. And most women aren't showing their vajs that's for sure. There is no fantasy here. Just simple reality if you actually look at well made sexuality surveys that offer insight into peoples' sex lives made under privacy ensured conditions. Her showing her body (privates) to less men makes her body more exclusive. What is confusing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:26 PM
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That's not what consensus means. Consensus means that men mostly rated the same women as being attractive. Their ratings correlated more highly with each other (see the link). These women also almost certainly possessed certain specific traits that most men find attractive (for example, MOST men prefer large breasts or asses which have sex appeal). Hence women with big whatever were rated as more attractive than average and this effect was strong (high correlation among ratings between men). I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:14 PM
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Well at least it wasn't all at the same time of there would have been some nice sloppy seconds involved!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:07 PM
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Most people figure it out with 2-3 relationships and 1-6 sexual partners. You can find these stats online. And reducing ONE person down to a count is of course not meaningful but we are talking in generalizations here to prove a point about people.. in general. Not to mention yes, 1?2?4? partners is all normal (in a normal range) but once you're double that (7-10+) ... you're doing something wrong OR you are doing something deliberately. Like 15% of less of women have more than 10 partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:06 PM
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Lol yeah the last thing you said is true but a total lie is harder to say convincingly. Most people won't make up something that blatantly fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:03 PM
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That makes no sense at all. The n=2 girl could be a firecracker in bed and have a high sex drive. She just manages it with her fingers. It's not exactly uncommon. Sex toys exist for a reason. Fucking men you barely know (or women) is almost always more about validation or some kind of dependence on company/others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:01 PM
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Those are the same thing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:00 PM
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Why do you not believe that more consensus = less variation? More consensus here = less standard deviation, and standard deviation is literally variation. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26241100_Using_Revealed_Mate_Preferences_to_Evaluate_Market_Force_and_Differential_Preference_Explanations_for_Mate_Selection/download Try this link. There are charts that show the standard deviation and it seems to be slightly lower for men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:55 PM
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Yeah I don't really hang out with people who do shit like that. You can't always know before hand though. Someone has to learn the "hard" way first about people like that ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:06 PM
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Nah this whole post of yours was debunked by some science out there that was posted here before. Using math and how men/women rated members of the opposite gender this was shown AFAIK. Maybe someone has the link? Edit: found the article in Google https://medicalxpress.com/news/2009-06-consensus-men-women.html
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:05 PM
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Isn't it worse if he had sex with you though? Then you feel like you got used for that. You also feel like he might tell people who are easy/slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:00 PM
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Why? Take two comparably good looking girls. One has a count of 2 the other is 15. Seriously, you want to tell me these are the same person lol? One has shown her twat to over a dozen men and is much "easier" to get into bed. She can run into those dozen guys and they'll all know exactly what she looks like naked. She loses her "specialness" or value in this way. For one fucking is just some random whatever activity. The other gets all of the same opportunities and turns them down. Having her sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:57 PM
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https://priceonomics.com/how-long-do-couples-date-before-getting-engaged/ Here's another interesting link that also compares regions on the US. Basically women in the Northeast get engaged on average at age 28 (men 30) and are dating about 4 years before that. That means half of people meet their spouse before age 24f/26m respectively in the Northeast. NYC might bump up 1-2 years max on that. So most people in NYC and the Northeast still do meet their spouses in the early to mid 20s. And lol in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:30 PM
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Dude you do you if you think everyone is a liar. Don't drag me down with you into pessimist paranoia land. Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:27 PM
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The average age of courtship is 4-5 years (meet, date, engagement) and I suppose we have no stats to show that it's longer or shorter in big cities (as mentioned I suspect it is longer). https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/whats-hot/this-is-how-long-today%E2%80%99s-average-couple-dates-before-getting-married/ar-AAxZP29 most age groups date for an average of five years before tying the knot. But not Millennials. According to the report, those between the ages of 25 and 34 knew each other for an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:09 PM
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Oh once I get into a good one who gives a shit ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:58 PM
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Age of first marriage can have as much to do with lack of savings to get married as it does when you pair up (big cities = huge cost of living). It doesn't mean people aren't in an LTR to begin with. I'd argue they are more often in successful LTRs because there are more people to choose a partner from in a big city. Marriage age =/= pairing age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:30 PM
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It may not have been worded well but it means the women understandably showed no shame because their previous sexual experience was modest/normal. Yeah I know not the typical use for that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:28 PM
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You're right but only for people who are single in their 30s which most people are not. The only people who are LTR material in their 30s AND single are those who dropped out of decade long LTRs which they got into in their 20s and they could easily still have low single digit N counts. No idea about stage 5 clinger suspects but people who remain single into their 30s without a very long LTR are far more suspicious to me (did they go through like 5-7 failing relationships? There's the real red f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 03:35 PM
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Actually if she never brings up the topic most of the time you can assume she's got something to hide. Most girls I've been with have volunteered most of that info themselves and it was all rather modest and shameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:46 PM
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No that missed the point that husband material still needs to be sexy and sexual to her. Husband material is BOTH sexy and shows good personality traits. Nothing about this said that guy wasn't sexy. And sexy is all you need if you want your hook up. Point is this: nothing wrong with showing the good husband personality traits when you are looking to hook up because they are not relevant... all that's relevant is that you are sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:12 PM
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Not everyone is down with abortion in case you didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:28 PM
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(accidents happen even when smart people use BC as well as they can) ^ ^ ^ I said this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:41 PM
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That's weak mentality. You can't get fucked over if you're losing very little. If you're strong and high value you're not losing much by offering something and then waiting to see if you get something good in return. That's how winners operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:58 PM
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Relationships are a two way street. If you aren't reciprocating his free milk and him making you one of his priorities you're in for a really rough ride in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:36 PM
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One shitty guy doesn't mean it'll happen against every time or even very often. You sound like a TYPICAL red piller who got his feefees hurt years ago and now screaches AWALT AWALT and reeks of paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:33 PM
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I'm sorry but you're being to vague to warrant a reply. If you elaborate with specifics I can probably respond to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:32 PM
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Yes they do evolve so why not focus on the real evolved ones and not some grade school crap. Christ this was like PPD 3-4 years ago when I started posting here for a while before I left Reddit for years. Grade school is still all the rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:21 PM
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Making shit up like that is easy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:20 PM
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Uhuh and what makes you think amazing will let you be non exclusive with him before you discover his amazingness?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:19 PM
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My bad, I should have added the bold (I thought it was implied): "You'd say the same about a guy you dated for 4 years AND had kids with who you were expecting to propose to you sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:09 PM
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LOL when you get a BF for 3-4 years come and tell us that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:09 PM
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You are using some weird grade school definition of high status social circle? Are you in your teens? I mean sorry but that stuff is irrelevant to most single men (not kids). I mean sorry but I have nothing to discuss here if that's the case because that's all superficial clique (laughable really) bullshit where "coolness" (what you called "high status social circle") is the most subjective thing ever. People in various cliques all got laid. Preppy with preppy, ghetto with ghetto, druggies with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:08 PM
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You'd say the same about a guy you dated for 4 years who you were expecting to propose to you sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:02 PM
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kids kids kids kids You're saying marriage, but actually talking about kids. If your BF who you had kids with (accidents happen even when smart people use BC as well as they can) became a carny you'd also be "figuring things out."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 04:54 PM
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Your "husband" was once a guy you dated. You could also be dating and still working on MANY of the things you mentioned ("where to live or aligning our careers") unless you think it's so easy to just start over again with a completely new person. People can and DO have to work on those things if they want to make a relationship WORK and relationships that WORK turn into marriage. It sounds like to you "dating" = some random 3-9 month relationship. No, dating can be a 3 or 5 year relationship tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 04:51 PM
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We both weren't satisfied, bud Hey look you learned some much new stuff today!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 04:49 PM
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Hur hur hur man "nice one" but no it's more complicated than that and nothing you need to be concerned with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 04:29 PM
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I like how you tested me for testosterone over the Internet. I am normal like everyone else who is happy having sex 1x per week. You are not. It's a tough pill to swallow but it's funny to watch you squirm in the face of actual evidence against you. Given my lack of issues with sexual function WHEN I desire them I can only assume my test is in the normal range. I also have no problem gaining muscle or losing fat. Are you now going to switch from test to alphaness or HUR HUR masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 04:14 PM
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At 25 in my example it definitely is because that's 1 'relationship' every 12 months more or less. I don't give a crap about some weirdo lifelong bachlor/ette 45 year old asshole who means nothing to 90% of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:46 PM
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SMV as in sexual attractiveness / fuckability? Higher status social circles are totally irrelevant unless the girl wants to try to fuck her way into a relationship with him. Sociable/personable? Hardly any impact on SMV unless the guy is OBNOXIOUS to begin with. Charismatic? Might help a bit but won't make him fuck girls in leagues higher than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:33 PM
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Well not 10 minutes but maybe an hour or 2. Seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:31 PM
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The only difference between marriage and dating is a some bullshit legal paperwork. All of the other work (effort!) like compromise, care, love, affection is all the same. If anything people present a better version of themselves in dating or engagement than marriage (most people do become more complacent over time), so if you're not putting the effort into the relationship or compromising or doing all of the other important stuff what the hell are you even doing?? So I think your attitude sucks…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:21 PM
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1-3 relationships is normal so that terms really loses its meaning if you use it like that. Serial monogamist is like 5-7 relationships by age 24 (for example, age is important), and those were all 9-18 month relationships, for example. Just jumping around from 1 to the next. For most people its like 2 relationships average in their lifetime I've seen somewhere so that's a good reference point. After 4-5 you gotta start to get worried esp. with younger people like mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:19 PM
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We were both highly satisfied when we were together. https://www.nbcnews.com/better/health/how-often-do-happiest-couples-have-sex-it-s-less-ncna828491 Another link I recall showed that happiness declined a bit for people having sex more than 1x per week. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284175688_Sexual_Frequency_Predicts_Greater_Well-Being_But_More_is_Not_Always_Better **Edit here it is after like 30 secs on Google It's OK man you can go back to boinking all day
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:15 PM
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ANd holy shit here you are spamming me REEEINg with your 4th out of 5 replies to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:13 PM
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Hur hur hur yeah you have no life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:13 PM
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Google it and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:13 PM
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Wow you showed me sport!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:12 PM
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Some normal things are good. Others not so much. Nuance, buddy, nuance. Funny enough couples with the normal 1x per week rate also generally rated among the most happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:09 PM
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BMI 22 or so? I run or lift 3-4x per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:09 PM
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Your desire for sex is ABNORMALLY HIGH. Like that's not even debatable. If it's not messing with your life or daily whatever then maybe you're ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:19 PM
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Yeah you need help. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:09 PM
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We were together 3 years. It went down to 1x per week around the halfway mark. Another girl I dated probably the same, but the total relationship length was 2 years. You're not normal dude. Maybe see a therapist? I'd hate being that horny all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:09 PM
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You have it all backwards. How do you think anyone fucking much more than that is normal and their sex drive isn't way too high? Hint: new couples have more sex. Clearly people here have never been in an LTR but only STRs (less than 12 months relationships).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:58 PM
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You're clearly under sexed man. I had sex like 5x per week when I first met my last GF (now ex) and we were still all lusty and love crazy. From there things gradually die down to 1-2x per week. This is sufficient for most people, especially those who have a life and are busy. If you want to assume the worst about them and the best about you then you go right ahead. And people who reported more than 1x per week did not report being more happy AFAIK from that study.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:57 PM
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Normal couples have sex 1x per week or 4x per month. 10x per month is more than double the normal rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:50 PM
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So pick your target group and observe? Who are these men? Working class or community college educated mid tier workers? I'd assume given that you are talking about the dating life you want people age 20-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:31 PM
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Lol yeah I think the last bday I was happy to celebrate was ... 23? I'm turning 26 and kinda wish time would freeze :) I can only imagine how the 56 year olds feel
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:30 PM
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I could reframe this and say this is "be a nice guy" advice because "good character" in her OP is basically "be a nice guy" in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:27 PM
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I mean decent means what? Below average at best? You can't fix the bone structure man. As long as he's happy with below average girls, sure. I bet he gets some like that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:11 AM
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It's a nice fantasy to think this thin framed, ultra short dude could actually be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:08 AM
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30lbs of muscle lol? A 6'2 wide framed guy would be a candidate for that. This dudes face and bone structure is not changeable. Keep dreaming if you look like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:07 AM
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I'll assume they mean for individuals and not that nebulous social cost definition. OK, so what are these problems? Where are the specifics? It sounds like cocaine is great but I gotta wonder what the actual problems are and how they concluded so. What is occasional or low dosage use? What % of people fall into which category? It's understandable why you're jumping to conclusions here: confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:08 PM
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Hah yeah my prior academic achievements leave much to be desired. This thing is my last hope. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:45 PM
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Ok so where is the research? Not a single source said what you just said: All the research shows that when these substances are used in moderation they are less harmful than alcohol. Period. What are you pulling here? Quote where it says that about individual use.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:38 PM
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I live in NYC so I can dream a bit and try and get into NYU or Columbia. My cuz went to Columbia. Oh well gotta bump up my score more and try I guess. If not I want to stay on the East coast.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:35 PM
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I guess the new survey will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:34 PM
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Not single thing here said that long term use of non-alcohol drugs was safer than medically defined moderate consumption of alcohol. Not surprised at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:30 PM
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Yeah on THIS sub. Shocker. This place is full of drug users. Just like it's full of people who don't want kids. I wonder why. Both small minorities. It's like people saying genetics is king on an incels sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:28 PM
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Yeah well said. I think "coolness" is way more nebulous and situational that "confidence" though, at least without considering how each individual would act in different situations. And assuming confidence usually translates to coolness is just a bad idea (not you, the OP).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:32 PM
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PUA can be considered any pill when everyone is makin up new pill definitions all the time. What is Red Pill to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:29 PM
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I'm not an expert on any sort of human abominations bro
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:28 PM
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Yeah I'm not gonna take your word for any of that. I'll believe it when I see something specific about level of usage (doses), etc. Moderate drinking (15 drinks per week for a male, split over 3+ days) is probably way safer than most of those drugs in the first list. Interested in seeing actual medical sources because your word isn't good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:58 PM
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I am specifically talking about UMC people who are like 1/2 of my extended family. It's clearly different in the UK, but in the US most kids go to college and work in completely unrelated fields because they are following their own unique interests which competitive schools set them up to pursue regardless of their parents' occupations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:57 PM
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What good would getting fatter do him? Or slightly more muscular? It'll be peanut gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:40 PM
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Snap out of it man lol that guy is like 5'2 and his face + build are terrible. He is bone structure fucked. No amount of clothing or lifting will fix him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:35 PM
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Aka he ain't ever gonna be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:28 PM
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And how is this guy gonna looksmax lol? https://i.imgflip.com/28w44y.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:23 PM
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After years of prep I finally took a full practice LSAT and scored 168. So pumped!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:06 PM
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What it comes down to is, if you're an attractive, confident guy, what you're doing is cool. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:00 PM
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LOL so attraction is all luck based? Basically you become a Chad once the luck train arrives to you. One girl "randomly" likes you (you get lucky) and then more and more girls like you. Ha ha ha ha ha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 02:59 PM
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Almost nobody's parents got any any cushy jobs is that what you keep telling yourself to feel better about your own failures and that of your parents? Most people don't go on to work in the same line of business as their parents so their parents can't help them much in that department. Wake up chief. And yes they had their tuition and board paid for for 4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 02:57 PM
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Alcohol is obviously more harmful to society overall because it's completely legal almost everywhere and widespread in use I don't care what you think about alcohol use in general dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 02:55 PM
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If his college girlfriend from State is the kind of overachieving striver that someone with a Yale Law degree would marry, then she is by definition not a general ed major teaching kindergarten in Fort Lee. Yale or Fort Lee or not I don't see how the same guy with a law degree from the likes of NYU or Columbia couldn't be dating his GF of 3 years who went to a State school who teaches not in Fort Lee but some other small town in NJ near NYC for example (to keep geography consistent)?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 02:54 PM
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Good job Taco
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:41 PM
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Oh I agree some of the POOR immigrants are gross. I'm talking about the dudes with well off parents sending them to the US for college or grad school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:19 PM
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Most people don't realize that dicks above 6.5" are extremely rare (1%). The median penis is like 5.2" erect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:32 PM
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Desire and talk is cheap though. I agree it's possible but most don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:56 PM
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Lol dude the usage rate is the SAME in the USA. https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/02/23/nearly-1-in-6-canadians-have-used-marijuana-since.aspx According to the data, which Statistics Canada will continue to update, 15.4% of all citizens, or nearly 1 out of 6 Canadians, have used cannabis over the past three months Still a small fraction of people using it. 1/4 young people makes sense, but again, also a 3:1 non user to user rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:52 PM
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I guess it's just your word vs. mine. I grew up in the ghetto and 9/10 women have shit manners. My UMC cousin's side of the family 1/10 women have shit manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:50 PM
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This is another plausible scenario: Guy just finished law school (a top 10) and went to a BigLaw firm. He's been with the State girl for 3 years already. He becomes a big shot in BigLaw 20 years later. Your example kinda assumed this guy was already a big shot in BigLaw and that means he's like 40-50 years old... that's when he gets married? Or are we just assuming that the State girl a total dumbo?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:49 PM
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I've found that from the WC latinos tend to the certain groups of very nice people (on the direct opposite end of latino gang shitbags). Trailer trash and ghetto people are the worst IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:41 PM
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State school girls seems to have the sexiest cheerleaders though ;) even if by a small margin
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:37 PM
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Where did you get this idea that UMC families (let's say in the US this is like 100-300K household income) give their kids "everything" ? My cousin is from a UMC family and he and his friends never got massive hand outs. They have their post scholarship tuitions paid for in college plus room and board were covered. Most got $10k-20k used "first" cars or hand-me-downs (like an 8 year old BMW). After that they were independent post graduation save for gifts in the value of $1000-5000 on events lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:32 PM
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The people who did this research were that stupid? You really think that? I mean you were smart enough to figure that out in a minute. You think they didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:28 PM
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She's the exception. On a general note people here seem to think that exceptions negate the rule which is funny. Rules and generalizations matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:15 PM
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Irish dudes lol? I meant the ones who have English as a second language. UK dudes are simps. French, Italian, Greek,** Scandinavian. Even Eastern European if they speak good English. **especially these guys are next level romancers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 04:58 PM
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They are not accurate but there no way anyone can claim they are not more accurate than a handful of anecdotes and also the best available information. Who said anecdotes and recollections are accurate or more accurate? What else is there here other than black and white thinking? You're either using drugs in the last x months or you are not. I have no idea how anything you said counters my original point which still stands: PPD is a crappy sample of what most people do. And in this case it's thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 04:56 PM
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Metrosexual European dudes in NYC date the kind of women that make up the wet dreams of incels and PUAs. Some of these girls are actually pretty smart and sweet too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 04:35 PM
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I hate to break it to you but local trends are not THAT different from national averages when comparing absolutely. So even if it's DOUBLE the national average then like 4% of people do coke instead of 2%. Or 10% and not 5%. Nice try, though. And I can respond to people sharing anecdotes with national averages to push and support my point: PPD is a shit sample of what actually goes on nationwide which was my whole original point! :) Local trends are for you to enjoy and you only, and even then, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 04:31 PM
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That proves my point further. Lowering standards = accepting lower RMV mates similar to their own now lower RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 04:18 PM
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SMV is comparable I'd say, highly dependent on looks and how well you aged. RMV I'd say men get the advantage as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 03:37 PM
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Ok so you legit want to tell me you know most of the people in your town? I mean it's not a village right? You can't know everyone. And not at every bar. Are you judging 1,000 finance pros based on the 10-20 guys you know? Of whom 5-10 do coke? Are you sure these aren't mostly single dudes? Bad biased sample? What about the finance pros with kids? Most of them doing coke too? And the second thing: What am I not grasping here? That I don't need to care for made up facts or respect certain groups …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 03:29 PM
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Why do I have to grasp their shades of grey? I don't care about them in the grand scheme of things. I wanted to point out that even their so called "local trends" are abnormal in general or are exaggerations that they made up in their head to make themselves sleep easier at night. You make it sound like 50% of the finance pros in your town do coke when in fact it's like roughly 5% of them (I showed these numbers) and you happened to know that lot (I bet there's an explanation for that!). I get i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 03:20 PM
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WHY should we care at all about your local level of anything or your friends? Why? You still haven't answered that. The dudes here aren't trying to learn to date 40 year old Connecticut cougars from a 3 town area. So why you keep going on about yourself is still beyond me. My point was this: people on this forum are very much abnormal to the generally accepted country wide norms. And this isn't me calling all of them bad people FYI. And people got upset over it. Oh well. I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:58 PM
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so V tapers and megajaws? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:44 PM
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An good amount of positive traits and general lack of negative traits when it comes to looks, intelligence and personality aka "be attractive, don't be unattractive." Life goals and lifestyle being similar to her are important too. There should be lots of info out there about which specific traits are hot vs not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:44 PM
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There is no need for nuance there... but I'll go ahead and ask ya.. What is the need for nuance here? To give you a free pass to talk about yourself? If not, why don't you explain it to me. Why should anyone care about YOU and your friends little bubble? (You said I live in a bubble, well you're right, but my bubble is bigger aka the normal bubble when it comes to drug use than yours if you know all of the coke heads, a tiny minority of people even in the finance space, except old wall street du…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:33 PM
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Hur hur not really. It's a very small minority of people. https://sunrisehouse.com/addiction-demographics/financial-industry/ Over all the occupations surveyed, 8.6 percent reported using illicit drugs within the month prior to the survey; in the financial services and insurance industry 6.5 percent of individuals reported using illicit drugs in the month prior to the survey. Numerous sources, such as an article from the Business Insider and the books Bullish Thinking: The Advisers Guide to Advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:27 PM
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I'm not on any horse rofl you are soooo butt hurt. I drink, I used to smoke pot. I'm just pointing out people here are disproportinately drug users and think many more people use drugs than they really do. It's hilarious how you thought I was moralizing all drug use when I wasn't at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:25 PM
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Can't say I know much about Canadian drug use man
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:24 PM
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Of course it's not based solely on your income. I never said it was. But without income changes class mobility isn't possible at all. 100K and 200K is a massive difference wtf is wrong with you? If they both in fact live "comfortably" (same spending on rent, etc) one of these guys will acquire MUCH more in his career just via basic savings and investment. He will be noticeably wealthier. And no most people here are NOT UMC lol (they are mid tier college educated with below top 15% incomes) they …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:23 PM
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Of course it's not based solely on your income. I never said it was. But without income changes class mobility isn't possible at all. 100K and 200K is a massive difference wtf is wrong with you? If they both in fact live "comfortably" (same spending on rent, etc) one of these guys will acquire MUCH more in his career just via basic savings and investment. He will be noticeably wealthier. And no most people here are NOT UMC lol (they are mid tier college educated with below top 15% incomes) they …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:20 PM
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I never called those women dumb??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:16 PM
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Lol wtf I used to smoke pot every day and still drink every weekend. You got nothing right this time bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:09 PM
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Oh look another druggie saying the same thing. I'm actually fuckin blown away by the level of denial on here when people are presented with factual information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:08 PM
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What take? People here think that drugs are the norm because they only hang out with other drug users. Been there done that. Your cognitive dissonance is killing you. Nothing about what I said is an opinion or open to interpretation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:07 PM
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Frat parties aren't everyone man. Wtf is wrong with you? And hard drugs were usually way more rare than pot. I crashed enough to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:06 PM
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Of course it is used, just that the use is like minuscule and less prevalent than other places. YOU just know the coke heads. I love how you're trying to BS your way out of this even when presented with further detailed information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:05 PM
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Yes exactly. That one guy. One guy. Then 3-4 people use that shit. Out of 20. Or out of 40. A small minority. And who said these party people are representative of all people? What happened to other people? How about the group of people chilling in a small group at someone's place over beer or wine and some guacamole? lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:59 PM
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No one is moralizing anything. Maybe you are? Anyway I don't care that much about that point. The rest of the post was more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:55 PM
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Yeah, this is all coming together now. You are older. People with a history of long term coke use use it more. Drug use has gone down a LOT on wall street. https://sunrisehouse.com/addiction-demographics/financial-industry/ Please educate yourself. This is not meant to be insulting. The overall rate of use is actually lower than other industries. Over all the occupations surveyed, 8.6 percent reported using illicit drugs within the month prior to the survey; in the financial services and insuran…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:53 PM
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Are you for real? ONS is just that in practice. It means you meet, fuck and then don't talk ever again. The typical bar stranger fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:51 PM
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The whole point is just that. "Regional trends" and "certain types of people" is the "story of PPD." :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:15 PM
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LOL back in the hood I was offered weed by at least 3 dealers daily on the way to school at like age 13+
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:56 PM
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Your local life does not define what is the norm around the country. No one cares what happens just around you in a discussion of the SMP in the USA. So yes, I am right. It's a YOU thing and a PPD thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:48 PM
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What is a recreational user exactly? And you lived in like 8 places and I showed you data from every single corner of the country in a large poll. Sorry but you lose there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:38 PM
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Talk is cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:36 PM
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I live in Brooklyn. Grew up in the Bronx. In the hood all sorts of shit was smoked and used. Hippie hipster soyboy and artsy girl tattoo artist types around here in Brooklyn smoke pot all day. The corporate types smoke WAY less pot than the artsy types as they mostly drink. You seriously seem to think that most drug use (pot or heavier drugs) in the US is all in the most educated area of the country. That is total bullshit. People in areas with better education have lower use of drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:31 PM
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Cuban American (50% white 50% latino) born and raised in the Bronx. Moved to Brooklyn at age 16. Mid 20s now. You do not know every single person anywhere stop being absurd lol. I'm a former pot head but holy shit it's hilarious to see all the drug using people here going nuts when you point out they are a minority of people. PPD = above average amount of drug users. Shocker lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:31 PM
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Just because you think it's not accurate does not make it not accurate. Ohh!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:29 PM
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I provided large scale data to show drug use prevalence for this reason. You can stick your head in the sand if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:29 PM
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Nah man, come on. You're making the term UMC mean nothing. You can set the bar for "rich" arbitrarily wherever you want, but a 100K vs 200K lawyer are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:29 PM
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There is absolutely nothing better out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:13 PM
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Mormons and bible belt conservatives are also a minority. Even if we exclude them these numbers aren't going to change much. Good try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:12 PM
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Weed was my escape out of my lazy ass average life. Most people who smoke pot are boring, lazy mofos. Unless you think stories of stupid shit are "cool." I grew up. Sorry man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:11 PM
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Explain to us how you, one individual, with limited experience with all the different groups of people in the country, can know any better than this large scale data from the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:10 PM
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Mostly low value men in lower tier jobs themselves. Ho-hum middle class jobs. Or just dumb men. Career itself isn't really attractive that much is true. It's all of the things about her that got her into the career that makes her attractive (her intelligence and personality). Hint to dumb men: more intelligent women can do all of the womanly/girly/wifely things better than dumb women. And you all like those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:08 PM
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The vast majority do not do drugs not even pot. If you and most of your friends do drugs no one is surprised you think it's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:00 PM
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That's all drug use including pot and meds. 1-2% was for cocaine. Read more carefully. "Illicit" refers to use of illegal drugs, including marijuana according to federal law, and misuse of prescription drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:59 PM
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You guys need to snap out of it. Even if ALL of the usage happened in those industries the amount of people doing it is a tiny minority. I posted an actual link to nationwide drug use. Enough speculation and making stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:57 PM
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No they are NOT lol I literally posted a link that SHOWS how little people use drugs in the whole population. That means even less use happens in those industries unless those drugs are exclusive to them. Even if so, it's like 1-2% of people using them. Snap out of it. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-trends https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-trends https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-trends My cuz who works in elite law…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:55 PM
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For young adults and teens the usage rate is like 20-25%, mostly boys again. Yes, 15% is a small minority. 40% is a large minority. I like how you're trying in every way possible to make drug use seems OK, 'accepted' or normal. I used to think this shit and then I quit. I hated my past self and life. I was a buffoon but somehow got out of it. Most people can't see they are buffoons or losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:54 PM
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The hottest guys I know don't even have that much casual sex because all the validation they need they get from women just lusting after them. Going any further isn't worth the effort. Heard this from my short Chad friend I mentioned earlier and another dude I know closely who slays.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:52 PM
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Eh that's not elitist since there's no objective quality judgment to be made here at all..... that's just stuck up / ignorant. :) I gotta complain because I think I'm becoming elitist in some ways but I try not to be stuck up or ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:51 PM
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OK smart guy tell me the "true" rate of drug use then? 5 of your friends do it so like.. most people do it? Like 80%? Is that your incoming argument? Tell me the TRUTH. No 15% is NOT common. 15% is a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:33 PM
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This isn't some me vs. your preference thing. Fucking someone you hardly know with a condom on your dick just doesn't feel that good, yes, in the literal sense. Condoms are terrible but necessary for casual sex because lots of those girls are banging multiple dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:30 PM
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How the hell do you broaden your horizons in something like music? You either like it or you don't (assuming you gave it a shot).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:29 PM
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Weed users are common to other weed users. Oh my god I'm shocked!!! In reality they make up no more than 10-15% of the population. Small minority. Most of those are MEN, too. Hard drug users even if under-reporting are like what... 2-5%? Bro I'm from the hood that's where I saw tons of drugs. I moved out, found new friends who are better off people and drug use became almost non existent. Mostly alcohol, a little cigs and pot. White collar people poppin hard drugs are fucked up big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:22 PM
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Can't get in even with the paywall breaker. I really want to see the actual numbers here because I have this funny feeling they are about the same even if statistically significantly different for pro casual sex and less so women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:08 PM
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I mean yeah I'm sorry I guess you're either hot enough full package or you're not and you're right looksmaxxing has its limits... Why not go for an LTR? Casual sex sucks man. LTR is way better. Been there. I mean I'm 5'11 or so so above average, but most women still don't lust after me, but I've had casual sex partners before and 1 decent LTR. FWIW one of my most luster over friends is like 5'6 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:04 PM
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It's not the main thing at all man. There are women who make FUN of people talking about height on Tinder even. (They post things like "I'm 5'5 and I'm told apparently that matters!") And on a more important note only a small amount of women are really using height as a MAKE OR BREAK type deal. That would be like as dumb as men making or breaking on a girl's cup size. People say it's biology but LOL that makes no sense since these tall fetish women would likely be out of the gene pool ages ago b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:58 PM
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You can tell that the people here and their social circle are beyond fucked up when they are regularly encountering drug users that make up to like 1-3% of the population (stuff other than alcohol and to some extent pot which is a little more popular), especially white collar older people. PPD aka the worst sample of what is normal in the developed world EVER. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-trends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:43 PM
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How did I miss the nuance while pointing out that a handful of artists with filthy rich parents aren't the norm? Try and actually debate and not "I'm right you're wrong" please and please refrain from using fiction as an example, or your few friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:36 PM
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I grasped that 3 people who all sound oddly the same made up some BS about how poor artists from $200K/year families are UMC. 3 people have been wrong before when one person was right. I'm still waiting for a non fiction, general reality-based argument (not something your 1 friend did) from you that uses some basic logic of personal finances and budgeting to address this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:33 PM
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Not being generally physically hot enough is a killer. Almost no dude has it all, you just need enough hot traits to make you hot enough for enough women to satisfy you. If you're not like 5'3 or less height along ain't killing you, it's overall looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:26 PM
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No one here explained anything. They mostly resorted to "I'm right you're wrong" and came up with a handful of ludicrous examples that apply to like 1% of starving artists lol. What kind of bullshit argument is that? Literally NO one argued against me specfic points and NO one presented anything but their opinion on how they think things are. OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:22 PM
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LOL I love how mods downvote here. No one is reading this except you and oh look a downvote. Really? Are you this upset? People who can bankroll a UMC lifestyle for their broke son are NOT normal UMC people, they are UC 1% income earners at the very least. Thinking anything else defies logic (in before you come back with "muh experience" where some friends of yours had rich parents who were much richer than you actually knew... naturally.. since you didn't do their taxes).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:16 PM
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Why? I'm wondering why you think that top 1% low UC people are some valid example of anything here. Even when it comes to starving art boy sons they are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 04:00 PM
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Please do not use one example of fiction to make a point about real life, I mean come on. I have never seen that show either, but that's beside the point. Fiction is fiction. What generally happens in real life is a different story. I think you're confusing entry level UC people with top 1% or better family incomes with UMC people (top 15% but less than top 1%). UMC parents (mom and dad) make $200k per year ($120/80 split, this is actually slightly above entry level UMC income in the USA) and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:50 PM
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Until they have kids. If they aren’t able to provide a UMC life for their kids, that’s when it drops. Oh here we are. The really subjective arbitrary point behind your entire POV. Why is that then that it drops?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:13 PM
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I acknowledged ALL of that but I am saying it's not enough for those people maintain their parent's socioeconomic class, they drop a notch or even two. The UMC handouts are not big enough to do it, especially during the lifetime of the parents. Which part of this isn't clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:07 PM
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What is the difference in frequency of initiation between women who are more into casual sex vs not? I gotta wonder if the result will be like: "well women who like casual sex initiated 1.7 times per week while women who were not into casual sex initiated 1.5 times per week but hey it's statistically significant so we can publish it yayyyyy!" Where is the actual math for this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:05 PM
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That was 7 years ago. A lot of those ppl ended up marrying someone as rich as their parents or getting a well paying career outside of “the arts” thanks to their UMC network. And the ones that are still “artists,” well they’re also still UMC because despite how they want to be labeled they still have a UMC safety net and still have UMC access. They still have their trusts. When their parents die they still get larger sums, heirlooms, investments, and property. And thus, so will their kids. If th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:56 PM
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A few things you're missing. We don't all think that all women are sluts with high n counts (some weirdos here do, but most do not) who had crazy weird sex with 10+ men "Just in case" we may act in that way to get info we want out of women for our own good (and perhaps their own good, to avoid later relationship issues), especially if the woman is part of a social circle or lifestyle in which there ARE lots of sluts (and RP men are around a lot of these, so go figure) The rest of your post is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:35 PM
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Bimbos like dumb women specifically or what? Or bimbos like girls likely to be slutty? I don't know how that has any effect on whether she's likely to be high n count (and therefore you need to do what blackedout said). This stuff is only necessary when you think she's at risk of being high n count. You'll have to clarify what you mean by bimbo here (slut with high n count, dumb, both? neither?).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:30 PM
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It makes no sense to call someone UMC when they neither desire nor can afford to uphold their parent's values or lifestyle nor can provide the same for their own children. Of course this can't be argued against so people resort to cheap shots and "I'm right because I said so" from there. This talk of UMC starving artists is some garbage PPD cooked up exclusively (it must be by people who are worse off than their parents trying to protect their ego while simultaneously shitting on "prole" RPers).…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:26 PM
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Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 04:31 AM
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blackedout is pretty off point sometimes but this time he is 100% on point. On top of that just act a little intrigued by what she says yet unconvinced about her and her history and she'll talk even more. It's a powerful combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 04:31 AM
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40 year old single guys can't say they care because at that age everything single is fairly high n count. No surprise there. That doesn't mean they don't care or are thrilled with their choice of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 04:30 AM
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No which is why she resorted to a cheap shot. If she tried to elaborate she'd look dumb. If you think she's right elaborate in detail or I'm just going to ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:57 AM
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4 years ago I would sit around analyzing this bullshit lol. I feel embarrassed to have listened to any of this crap and not just focused on the basics of being hot, interesting (to most people) and social.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:55 AM
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There isn't even one agreed upon system among the academics. Thanks for the demonstrating your own false sense of superior knowledge though. You're not the authority on class so you word doesn't mean squat to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 01:28 AM
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Yeah you set the bar at like the top 0.00001%. I think that's a pointless distinction for PPD. Sorry but think about it. Like 85k per year is top 15% on income and that's UMC by most standards if you have a college education too. So like you think 500K income and college education is the same life as college + 85K or 100K? Not even close. A distinction is important. People making like 400k+ per year as going to have mass savings for their kids (like a trust fund) and lots of hard assets like rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:47 PM
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What I described isn't UMC it's entry level UC people making 1% incomes (500k) who can actually pay for luxury apartments of their KIDS in the cities where these things exist and actually cost $$$$.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:39 PM
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What are you talking about? Parenting and upbringing is PART of it (in changes HOW LIKELY you are to become one thing or another) but YOU (how you turn out) are the MOST important part of it. What part of this do you not understand? Explain in depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:31 PM
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I guess the engineering/mechanical technical inclination is sorta WC.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:30 PM
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lullululul what an argument lululul Come back when you have something useful or interesting to say cheap troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:29 PM
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I agree that being in the top 15% or so is somewhat exceptional, but I don't see why you pointed that out specifically? I don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:29 PM
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What kind of college and job now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:19 PM
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Looking at art is UMC. Painting shit that sells for $500 and living in a dump if the guy is lucky is not it. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:18 PM
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UH yeah everyone inherits SOMETHING from their parents including even an old beat up house unless they are really poor. You are just bullshitting your away with your made up definitions of class which weirdly focus on parenting and little on who the person is on his own merit. The latter is much more important in the end. Parenting is important, but not as important as who you become due to that parenting. Hand outs are not class changing in most cases. Do your girlfriends live in LUXURY apartme…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:16 PM
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It's about not taking their parents money out of choice. And even if they did the amount offered might not be life (class) changing unless the parents are literal multi millionaires. In my example I made it clear the the kids were against their parent lifestyles from their teen years. So yeah sonny the rich dad's kid who went to no college or crappy college and has a publishing or DJ job and makes jack shit isn't UMC at all. LMC if he's lucky even with some assistance from daddy. After mommy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:01 PM
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You don't need 1% income to send your kids to private school, especially a private college.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:56 PM
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Did you go to college and mix with those people at a young age?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:55 PM
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Yeah the local lawyers are entry level UMC. They are just scratching the top 15%. There is a huge lifestyle difference between entry level UMC and top end of UMC or low upper class. The elite private law lawyers are high UMC / entry level UC depending on how well they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:44 PM
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I thought so too! High five!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:37 PM
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for the most part its just that UMC women don't seem working class guys as dating/marriage material. Yeah this is exactly the right way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:36 PM
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Nouveau riche is about upper class multimillionaires man who are fresh money
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:31 PM
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We are talking about the kid here, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:28 PM
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Snap the hell out of it man. You can come up with any arbitrary definition of "rich" but you're full of shit if you think that owning a $1 million home paid off at age 40-45 is a bad thing. On top of that you can add second home, imported high end cars (80-120K), college funds, nice clothing and nice vacations ON DEMAND. Probably 1-2 million in the retirement account. This is UMC and pretty wealthy (pretty rich, not filthy rich) by Western standards. Not paper pusher 100K with a JD at No Name LL…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:27 PM
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LOL exactly. What your parents were is important in what you CAN become or are LIKELY to become, but NOT the ultimate determination of what you DID become.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:15 PM
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I see I see. I was Bronx (fam) --> Brooklyn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:14 PM
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Haha why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:05 PM
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The options they can give are irrelevant if the kids don't want them. What IS matters, what "can be" or "was" is fluff talk. Oh and... I'll add that the same sonny even taking daddy's options is going to have a hard time being remotely UMC in behavior/values/etc. after 2 decades (age 15 to 35) of artsy fartsy wild years. This latter point isn't as important as the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:04 PM
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Sere. I bet it's out there actually. But if this all ain't nice (I don't just mean psych tests), what is? I'm asking YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:58 PM
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Resting on the laurels of your parents? Nice try. It's a mix of upbringing (parenting) and YOUR OWN achievements. 500K/year daddy raises a tatoo artist, band member son who lives in a hole in the wall dump at age 35? Sorry but sonny here isn't UMC. Raised in UMC family, but LMC/WC (poor lol?) in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:55 PM
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OH okay so these are just acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:34 PM
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LOL yeah they claim their are UMC because they went to some mid level college and now push paper. They are middle class (middle class people earn above average incomes and have some kind of college education). The WC people and poor make up like 50% of America. They are confused about how class/income/education works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:32 PM
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Higher class women are probably straight up on psych tests higher conscientiousness and agreeableness. If that's not "nicer" I don't know what is man...??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:29 PM
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middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:26 PM
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You said so yourself and I was surprised so I asked?!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:26 PM
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Nah man broke hipsters are just as low RMV as the steel workers for the well paid UMC women. The hipster dude is banging the artsy fartsy barista who went to community college or has no college education at all. Overall there is no debate that college > no college for LONG TERM financial success. Even paper pushers eventually out earn the plumber. And plumbers who scratch 100K per year are CAPPING OUT and working SHIT HOURS AND WEEKENDS for that money with NO corporate benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:25 PM
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Nah there's the group stooge real demeaning shit talk and then there's some meaningless shit talk. The former is what I think you gotta deal with. Ok well if you don't care then you don't care. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:21 PM
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Sigh... I'm 50% latino and 50% white and grew up in a shittier NYC neighborhood. Then I moved to another one and upgraded (MC people mostly). And my cuz is UMC legit. Yes, upper class women (well, MC and UMC) are way more nice/polite than WC women, esp. the ghetto acting bitches often found in some minority groups. There are some groups of latinas (more conservative) which have really sweet girls, but they are a minority (pardon the pun lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:18 PM
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They probably talk shit about you behind your back. Like a group stooge. You really don't care??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:16 PM
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Right right it's about all of the parts of the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:10 PM
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Uh, UMC lawyers are the people making $180K+ per year out of law school. They will be self made millionaires in net worth if they stick it out at private law firms, even without making partner. The local lawyers making their $100k per year which is also their effective pay ceiling (except for annual 2% bumps) at No Name LLP aren't rich and barely UMC.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:08 PM
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It's worse if you've really exhausted all repair options and tried over a decently long period of time to fix it. That's all I can say really and yes the time period for example is a vague term.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:05 PM
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OK now we're on the same page, but I think people here always assume that "fallacy = always do the opposite."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:04 PM
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Well it's about work hard AND party hard. The fancy birthday dinners and gifts were all part of my cousin's upbringing (he's UMC family, I'm WC family).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:00 PM
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Ouch. Sounds like you settled for some "friends." The downfall of the extro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:56 PM
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Yeah just because it doesn't lead to 100% better outcomes doesn't mean it's a worse choice (again, we're talking relationships). Maybe sticking it out is a 70% success rate and then this fallacy is actually a GOOD thing (while breaking us is like a 50% success rate). And your latter point, I think most people DO get that and think logically to some degree when making these decisions. They KNOW breaking up MIGHT be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:53 PM
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Who cares if this tendency exists? That's the point. Sometimes sticking it out IS better and your study doesn't show it isn't better most of the time. Gambling isn't a relationship, so drop that dumb comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:46 PM
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This argument is way too vague to go anywhere. Relationship duration is a big question (related to age of the people of course). The hope of fixing things isn't all that keeps people together. Some are actually trying. If things aren't AWFUL than starting fresh could be far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:40 PM
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So basically this fallacy doesn't actually mean shit other than "oh that choice isn't 100%". OK got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:38 PM
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It has to do with parenting. The UMC parents were all into college prep and rewarding excellent academic performance with gifts, birthday celebrations at fancy restaurants and what not and now these women except their men to be able to partake and understand such activities and mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:34 PM
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No where did it say people stick it out 100% of the time. That's just what people tend to do (not 100% of the time but perhaps more than 50%??) for a variety of reasons. Also ignoring things here like relationship length and time of sticking it out, but that's beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:22 PM
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So there was nothing there that says breaking it off is actually better? So yeah people will follow their feelings and instincts here. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:12 PM
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And what's the problem with this thinking? Is there some grand study that said it's better to start fresh and break it off?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:11 PM
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Most women here aren't fancy competitive private school educated UMC anyway (mostly just MC, period contrary to what they choose to say) so they aren't going to give you any real answers, BRO. Based on what I see my in cousin's social circle of actual UMC people in NYC there's a FEW exceptions when UMC women will hang out with and date lower class men. These men gotta act the part and not look like buffoons in a classier social setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:03 PM
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Trying to apply some fallacy bullshit to feelings and emotions is retarded when trying to discourage decision making in a human. Especially since that fallacy doesn't "disprove" that sticking it out may be the better long term choice. People remember the HAPPY times in those relationships and realize that letting go of something that made them happy for 5? 10? 15? years is incredibly hard, especially when fixing things is potentially possible and likely faster than meeting someone new... and mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:01 PM
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I don't know anyone in their right mind who'd take their SO back after the other person went on a fucking spree though.. like seriously. If someone does they must be hella lower value RMV wise than the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:48 PM
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So on this topic... does it even count as meaningful "cheating" if say there is a married couple that is separated (living apart too of course) and one of them sleeps with other people. In this case they both tried to make things work, each party voiced its complaints (or 1 party at least) and then they split up. It might be cheating in a technical sense (they are still married) but no one can really hold it against the person sleeping with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:41 PM
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The average almost certainly means "mean" in this case or median. Close enough. What else could it mean? Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 06:44 PM
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I don't see how apps are a game changer. The Internet was the real game changer. Perhaps the telephone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 06:34 PM
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Right so about HALF of women meet their spouses before 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 06:33 PM
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I'm 26. I don't think much has changed in the last 10 years regarding this business.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 05:49 PM
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Yeah why would you want to be around someone you really like all the time? So dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 05:02 PM
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Yeah HS is unlikely but later college and right outta college is definitely prime time for high RMV people pairing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 04:56 PM
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Not everything there is THAT expensive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 03:10 PM
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The biggest LOL here is people believing that some random ho had access to 200K in credit card available limit. Wake up fools. The 200k credit access 29 year old grad student. Brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 02:19 PM
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You're just a typical desperate low to mid value guy. What else is new? If you're not high value enough to meet women who have the same goals and desires as you that's your problem. Oh well what goes around comes around that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 09:28 PM
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How about these women who claim they were "exploring their sexuality" and got to know their 10+ casual partners they had in college "well."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 06:11 PM
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No sour grapes in this thread at all..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 06:07 PM
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I agree so it tends to be a great place to take a girl you already know a bit and have some good chemistry with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 04:25 PM
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Depends what you mean by fixer upper really. Can't C your V without more info.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 02:00 PM
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Seen some women on here say that using those words. Smurfson? Maybe someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:57 PM
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Up to kissing/fondling, not fucking. That's my disagreement here. Once kissing/fondling is full on being explicit verbally is green lighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 05:34 AM
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EDIT: OK well where is the data for beyond 12 months for this study and the years before this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 05:33 AM
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Thanks for sharing. Good to learn about the good old folks of PPD and their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 05:32 AM
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"No sex within the last year" doesn't really qualify as incel though for the guys going on 12 month long dry spells. So the 27% stat isn't all that ominous IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:36 PM
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Yeah it sounds like a handful get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:35 PM
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Some people get enough good and validation from other places in their life. They don't need to take little fake lie based wins in dating. They are the real winners and will ultimately get amazing SOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:31 PM
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I take back all my claims dude. I don't need them to refute anything you said. Your claim is unsubstantiated and therefore easily ignored as potentially being totally made up. Call me salty again, deflect away from this key issue with your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:27 PM
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I made no claim. Your claim is completely unsubstantiated and now you're attacking me as a cover lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:24 PM
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We are talking about YOUR post and YOUR claim which you made FIRST. And made with no substantiation. My main refutation of your claim is that you have no substantiation. You can ignore my claim, it's of little importance in critiquing your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:16 PM
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But some women here claim in college they banged 10-15 guys and got to know all of them well. They respected them and the guys respected them back. What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:14 PM
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Oh now it's me!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:07 PM
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Thanks for sharing the same unsubstantiated claim like 5 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:07 PM
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Cool philosophical line their, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:06 PM
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It's not delusion just because you claim it is LOL. It's just more talk and nothing more. No I don't trust you, believe your word and nor does anyone else unless they are hardcore victims of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:05 PM
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It would mean most men would be punished. They aren't. You have absolutely NO way of knowing this. Incoming response about "I know/saw/think I think something something." Weak argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:03 PM
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Talk is cheap. You don't have to agree with me or believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:00 PM
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That's just some made up bullshit or projection. Most Chads are just banging 1 Stacy and they are really into her. That much is clear to anyone with world experience. Single Chad does not go around lying to every hot girl to get laid. Literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:54 PM
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Yeah I think most men are not that desperate and don't ever need to do that because they are OK with not having full PIV sex. They know condoms sucks and random hook up sex is just barely OK unless they are virgins or really inexperienced OR don't get validation in any other way. You can think whatever you want it could well be just a reflection of you and the people around you and nothing more. If I'm around more honest people than average then all the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:50 PM
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What about the women who claim they wanted to "discover their sexuality" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:48 PM
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You must only know guys that need to deceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:45 PM
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That makes no sense at all. OK let's ignore college. Grown up world post age 22. High value (hot) men in this case do not need to deceive women because they can get even above average women interested in casual sex because they are... hot. Hot guys and hot girls need little deception because they can get satisfying action anytime (hot guys with above average girls and hot girls with anyone they want). Some guys will be open about not wanting anything serious and others will lie and deceive. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:42 PM
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Yeah I'd say those girls are actually average promiscuous at the worst lol because they are in hella judgmental circles of friends. Alternative chicks and weirdo fatties are more likely to be high n sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:37 PM
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No they don't at all. In college most hook ups don't even get to full on sex so there is no need to clarify anything it's all completely fun risk free fooling around. If the guy pushes for more (PIV sex especially) the girl will generally feel him out for what he wants from her. This includes asking him about other girls, what he wants in a relationship, etc. Sometimes young girls don't give a shit and want any random sexual encounter just to try it. At this point he can lie or deceive/be ambigu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:29 PM
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Something like this https://i.pinimg.com/originals/30/78/03/30780382847df9d789f8c47acf25b8e3.jpg although there are other examples too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:25 PM
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No not at all, unless you're not that hot and want to shoot at a higher league of women looks wise. Don't forget that super important caveat. Once you've been honest it's the girl's fault if she goes for uncommitted/casual sex and then gets hurt. And some girls are into that shit anyway (like 10-20% or so).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:24 PM
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Something like this https://i.pinimg.com/originals/30/78/03/30780382847df9d789f8c47acf25b8e3.jpg although there are other examples too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:21 PM
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Exceptions don't make the rule so that means nothing. Lying or just being a douche in general when you sling shit people throw shit back at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:16 PM
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but if anyone starts being "truthful" and starts explicitly talking out loud about all that underlying stuff about maybe wanting to date/fuck each other, the whole thing collapses. That's only true to the point that the 2 people get physical. After that being explicit (what you wrongly called "honest") is completely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:10 PM
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It's true though. If not God or the universe, it's just people. Lie and be a piece of shit and the people you hurt or their friends will return the favor. How does this go way past people here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:08 PM
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Agreed. I knew some cam girls more closely (including 2 IRL) who masturbated like daily but had n counts of like 1-3. These girls straight up volunteered this info with a straight face unlike the closet hos that bullshit around and say stuff like "none of your business" or "I never kept count."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:00 PM
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Yeah I mean it also depends on how many times you saw each other and how long each time was. 3 months is longish but not crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:57 PM
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I seriously can't believe the bullshit some people are saying to you in this thread. You dated in the most traditional and normal way (back in my angry days I would have yelled at you too but I realize I was the one who was all jaded and messed up).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:46 PM
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Oh please most people are NOT ripped or Chads. That's total bullshit. I live in NYC too so Chicago isn't exactly making me feel out of place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:42 PM
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I'm going to ignore you in this comment chain. That's about it..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:41 PM
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Well sure enjoying being with them is always important that goes without saying. ON the other hand you are going to have a cut off for low income and other lazy shit guys can be. Like maybe you wouldn't date some chubby 40k per year dude even if you "clicked" because that's just bad news for long term family planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:40 PM
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It's mostly a trailer trash thing that's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:38 PM
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Yeah I mean it's not about STEM but rather that most of those jobs pay way above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:56 PM
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Who cares about Reddit? Your first statement is bullshit in a practical real world sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:36 PM
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Littleknown was right about meth being trailer trash drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:27 PM
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Bro you clearly don't know much trailer trash or ghetto ass WC areas
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:16 PM
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LOL it's not like you're any higher than mid tier middle class yourself but that again has nothing to do with your vague income BS or straight up wrong basic bitch BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:03 PM
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OK so basically impressive to you = in a band? ok, understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:01 PM
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So you have a specific borderline fetish like attraction to musicians in particular? Who cares? Is there some point you have or are you just enjoying talking about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 05:46 PM
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Basically you're just making up BS like an expert and purposefully keeping it vague to avoid being laughed at lol okay thanks for the laugh... keep telling yourself that Starbucks and yoga pants = basic bitches and that commission boys are "high earners" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 05:45 PM
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You're into musicians with global status? Some of those guys look like gym rats except they traded STEM for guitars. I know gym god STEM guys who play guitar (actually a few).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 05:18 PM
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A lot of men are just...unimpressive, especially those dime a dozen chad STEM gym gods ya'll jerk yourselves off too. Those are like objectively hot traits that most women like. What to you is impressive then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 04:48 PM
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Don't personalize this or I'll report you but 25+ and plenty to live alone fairly comfortably. Yoga pants and Starbucks does not equal basic bitch at all that is the dumbest BS I have ever heard and sales reps bros who made a decent commission here and there doesn't equal high earning or impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 04:33 PM
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No you don't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 04:27 PM
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You either don't know what highest earning under 30 means or these girl aren't basic bitches at all because those almost never go hand in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 04:17 PM
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"hottest" meaning maybe good looking but their success ends there and that's a really low bar for a man. Those dudes are usually medium status at best. Medium to medium high earners. Not really the whole package. Aka the sports and video games baseball cap wearing chubby "bros" with borderline administrative jobs. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 05:43 PM
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RMV attracts men for relationships. It includes looks and sexiness or whatever. It makes no sense to exclude looks since the looks threshold needs to be met always.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 06:06 PM
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Yup for sure and for girls who are NOT hot and simply can't be because they weren't born with great looks and have a limit on how much they can improve them ... being interesting and skilled is their ONLY shot at a higher RMV partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 04:53 PM
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This theoretical mental wanking is boring
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:33 PM
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"Insecurity" is a just a cheap insult on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:33 PM
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Yeah the true value of their husbands ought to be examined LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:32 PM
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Frankly they are just as much if not more concerned with her ACTUALLY being easy (racking up n count because she opened her legs) than her being a mild tease. If she's out tits hanging, letting men touch her and openly flirting with everyone or something then that's obviously ridiculous but if she's wearing a short dress without exposing her ass and showing a modest amount of cleavage that's not a problem really.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:11 PM
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Men neither want the attention whore which you described nor the girl that slept around with way above average amounts of men. Men are referring especially to the "sleeps around" slut the other definition is used more by women. Very often acting slutty and being a slut who sleeps around go hand in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:55 PM
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Certain insecurities are a great thing. Lacking them is the same as being a naive idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:52 PM
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A nerd can be attractive too! Anyone can be attractive!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:51 PM
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Right being a dumbass is attractive though. Brilliant stuff people cook up to try and control other people. "Bro don't wear a seatbelt, are you insecure or something?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:48 PM
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Well you burned him but you also burned yourself. :|
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:43 PM
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Yeah I thought that too but that's just some bullshit that's easy to make up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:28 PM
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It's like you're completely blind to the fact that you don't or can't know the preferences of all of the other men you find attractive OR unattractive (or women in general). No one cares what you think but thanks for this predictable shit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:20 PM
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LOL so you're ignoring all the men you could well like who do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:12 PM
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Made by one of the male trolls on here with multiple accounts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:11 PM
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Insecurity can be a good thing so the guys really won't care if you think that. That high value point though? Nice meaningless bullshit statement right there. Almost sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy or No True Scotsman thing in the making. "If he cares he's not high value" hamster hamster
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:03 PM
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Her high value guys don't care she's a former or current sex worker. Hmm. Yeah I totally buy this. 100% convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:01 PM
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I find it hard to believe anyone is going to catch serious feels in that situation especially if the gold digger is putting on an act. People can smell that fake shit from a mile away. The dude would have to be a total loser to fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:54 PM
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Hate? Or just don't find them hot? Hate is kinda too strong a word don't ya think?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:54 PM
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Then they wonder why the hourglass beautiful faced women view them as invisible...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:13 PM
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Based on your own stories and we can figure out what the majority of them were based on what kind of person you portray yourself as. You're also jumping around from "observation outside of personal experience" and your "actual" experiences...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 07:55 PM
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Sure but this idea that women only feel sexy with one partner is some bullshit lol Promiscuous women don't give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 07:10 PM
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You have the ability to do that but it doesn't mean your observations are accurate at all because of your limited interaction with what is outside your personal experience or preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:44 PM
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Don't ask a vegan to talk about his opinion of cheeseburgers. Don't ask some stoner flipping those burgers about how to become a banker. You hung with certain groups and were less clued in about or totally oblivious to others. That's the point. This shit isn't rocket science. You are also a "reddit person" lol wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:35 PM
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Lol I’m incredibly self aware bud. How'd you figure that out? LOL. Like explain it in detail. Oh a TINDER guy hahahaha no wonder. Man you're just like me a few years ago. Sorry bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:25 PM
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What is normal and is not isn't always a matter of opinion lol who told you that bullshit? Neither of those two especially atlas and their stories is remotely normal. Normal means "most common" if you're still confused here. If you don't want to take my word for it go Google up something about how people date or what normal n counts is for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:20 PM
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Why are you linking two self admitted super promiscuous posters as examples of how most other people date lol?? I mean I get it you guys fucked each other and all your friends. I hung out with some of those people in my college years but then I realized that most people weren't like that when I started hanging out with another side of my family and their friends. So if you fumbled your way into happiness good for you. Tried that and it didn't work for me and as I see it those people I used to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:14 PM
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I'm sure you think they are high tier but you're not the only judge of that. You're also almost certainly lying or BSing to these women so that's not as good as you make it look. Glad this little thing you got going on is working for you. Doesn't change that fact that you're a broken dude with a really pessimistic outlook and mindset. Plus some serious attachment issues for sure. You're just scared of opening up because you're scared to get hurt. You don't think you can handle any more hurt beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:03 PM
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Brainwashed RP dudes, who else? I interpreted your story from how you told it now you're just adding a bunch of things that pertain to YOUR life and not necessarily the experience of others. I'm glad you didn't mind your now husband boning other women while you were getting to know him good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:00 PM
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My opinion is fact for some but not all cases. How's that for facts? When you play with shit you get shit on you. That's just how shit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:02 PM
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Oh dude forget that imperative bullshit, what is wrong with you? You got brainwashed by RP and this place. I was like you years ago. The value thing is based on demand for that yes. Like if bigger proportion of women want LTR and less proportion of all men want it, the LTR guys are pretty highly valued and in demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:01 PM
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Cool story thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:00 PM
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You're broken inside man. I'm sorry. Probably think way too highly of yourself too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:00 PM
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Not everyone is insanely high obsessed with sex libido either. Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:59 PM
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Yeah all of the STIs man, the symptoms aren't always obvious right away ya know? Your vaj or dick don't develop huge mushroom spores right away ;) And about 3rd Chad... he might have feelings for the girl and then OOPS there's 2 more Chads. Poor Chad gets burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:58 PM
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Marriage are is going up but people aren't single. They are in LTRs and cohabiting. Hence that has no impact on n count. As for the rest of it all I know is people are losing their V later and I think the young people n count is down very slightly. Still no crazy hook up culture in sight ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:55 PM
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You must certainly mean for guys who want casual sex LOL. Sluts are low value for LTRs and guess which women like casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:52 PM
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This is not the example I provided at all. Mine involved multiple people over the course of multiple weeks meeting multiple times. This is RP plating for you. Not 1 week and 1 meeting between some of these people (your example of non RP people). That's also some pretty loose people who are fucking within hours of meeting each other but that's beside the point I suppose unless you meant that the Amy hook up wasn't sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:52 PM
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No, grew up around NY. Most of the concurrent fucky fucky happened when I lived ( grew up) in lower class neighborhoods for what it's worth but all of those relationships were a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:50 PM
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Red Pill advice to plate usually doesn't work without lying. You have to be the hottest sexiest mofo alive to pull it off with hot women. Not lying for an above average guy will land you below average plates. So most of these hardcore RP guys will lie to get more for less. I gave most of that shit up in recent years and I feel great. From the perspective of a guy who does that, I can tell you there are looots of women who secretly want the same thing. They aren’t telling YOU because you are pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:48 PM
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I don't really care for your opinion tbh which is why I stated "I think you did it wrong" in my first comment; you already had a best option decided upon in your mind and blew it by screwing around with two other women, that was stupid on your part. The third one I met last. The other two I was already with. I just didn't drop them right away as per great old TRP advice. And what do you think the men on here do lol? All they do is lie to women. All of the guys with side pieces, plates, whatever.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:42 PM
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LOL where did I say anything about some cosmic Godly justice man? It's not that at all (not the just world anything), it's that shitty behavior gets noticed and people will be shitty to you in return. How do you not get that? People do bad things to people that did bad things to them. You think the assholes aren't getting hurt in the process too? Get real bro. Look at the men here. They are broken emotionally devoid robots. Sick human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:39 PM
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We can agree to disagree but that doesn't mean you know those women as well as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:37 PM
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That's why when you ask them you have to specify they do count lol can't make it vague and let them BS it If she starts fumbling the answer you know she's full of shit or a total slut and lost count
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:39 PM
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They are much higher overall value to women who are into relationships. People who are into casual sex are of higher value to each other. People who are into relationships are of higher value to each other. It's about compatibility. What I meant was since most women in general prefer LTRs, to women in general men who are into LTRs are higher value overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:38 PM
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So you've bounced through 4 LTRs and you consider yourself a success? Even if they were at the most 2-2.5 years long each? Not the definition of success to me or most people who want a lasting relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:30 PM
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If not RP/PUA officially then posters here for sure. Lots of posters on TRP say this too. I want to know the source hence this post asking "who"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:28 PM
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Yes that has nothing to do with fucking people concurrently or fucking at all. It just means being attractive and HAVING THAT OPTION.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:02 PM
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There we go. Good to get that out of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:01 PM
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And where is the part that all of these people were concurrently fucking 2-3 other people? (we're talking about PLATING or CC, basically). Emphasis on concurrently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:01 PM
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You might be observing a pretty small group of people who are just overly promiscuous. How do you know you're not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:00 PM
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I was asking from the RP/PUA perspective, not college hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:59 PM
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Yeah, privately reported sexuality data from the govt. How did you learn it? Make it up because you assume everyone is like you? Thanks for the "evidence." The differences are so small even if you lived in a big city, small city and countryside you wouldn't perceive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:58 PM
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But meeting and fucking a lot of different people is, hands down, the best way to get into a relationship. Just don't tell everybody you're loosely dating that you're fucking a dozen other people, and if you meet someone you like, actually date her . LOL wtf is this? It's like you didn't even read what I posted. This is basically what I said in the OP. It's shitty behavior that is basically lying by omission at the very least and it will be sniffed out by relatively smart women or just intuitive…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:56 PM
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Fucking other people isn't the only way preselection works. You just need to have women visibly into you to other women and you're all set.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:54 PM
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Most platers are totally shifty liars. They are the literal definition of it and they are the ones who shit up the dating world for honest people. Otherwise the women would bail UNLESS they are sluts (in which case they don't care) and most women are not. People here on PPD have said most of their casual relationships were still exclusive and not some everyone is fucking 3 people thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:52 PM
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Sex might go down a bit in LTRs after the excitement phase but you'll have way more sex in an LTR in the long run. WAYYY more. And better sex (no protection for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:50 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:49 PM
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Yeah it's totally overblown. I think TV and porn has done a number on some really weak minded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:48 PM
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Right, attractive men INTO casual sex. Why did you ignore all of the attractive men who are into relationships here? These men are much higher overall value to women and they will get the best LTR picks because they will lock down a girl early when the most of the best girls are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:45 PM
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If women are open to you "having fun" then that's cool. Understand that you just gave them all the freedom in the world to fuck around with this so make sure YOU don't care. Risk of STI or sloppy seconds in that case is pretty high. So yah, make sure you really don't care because the risk of you catching feelings and then getting burned when she tells you she's fucking 2 "Chads" on the side or gives you an STI that's not obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:43 PM
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Yeah hooking up meaning rubbing a guy's cock and kissing to feel the guy out and see how pushy or desperate he is. They aren't giving them the sweet V. A BJ if the girl is into sucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:34 PM
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I just learned that cities are less promiscuous than small towns and no different than rural areas lol so that big city thing is false .. totally unexpected to me I also don't believe anything about you or this place is the norm anymore. 3-4 years ago on this sub and TRP I would have believed you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:33 PM
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Dude you are admittedly single.. what do you think you are doing? You're clearly not getting what you want. If you did you'd commit in a heartbeat. Who do you think you are fooling except yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:31 PM
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A lot of the "casual sex culture" I've seen has been based on men refusing to form any human connection at all out of fear of hurting women I think it's more like they are shit scared to burn THEMSELVES (getting hurt by women rejecting them after a few dates when looking for a relationship) to the point of paranoia and becoming drones or emotional robots. This place is loaded with emotional robots. I was one of them and I somehow snapped out of it. The only part that makes sense is avoiding bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:23 PM
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There's no connection to my reply to that comment and my OP. Is that confusing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:21 PM
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It was a step above trailer trash actually (I'm from a WC or lower middle class family north of NYC) and these days I'm almost up to snuff for the girls I want to be dating. At least I have no problem admitting I was the problem even when I thought I wasn't. If you aren't getting commitment from a girl you want to commit to you're not good enough. You're the problem. It's time to come to grips with reality. I did a few years ago and it's about to pay off. Although admittedly some people can't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:19 PM
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I AM THE ALPHAAAAAAA!!! BEATS CHEST ROAAARRR
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:17 PM
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http://time.com/4116508/for-a-happier-life-have-sex-once-a-week/ Couples having sex more than once a week do not report being any happier, according to a new study published in Social Psychological and Personality Science, but couples having it less than once a week report being less happy. The study was based on an analysis of the results of surveys of more than 30,000 Americans collected over 40 years in three different projects. It’s the first study that finds that copulation could be one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:16 PM
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Dude you can't know a person's body count unless you either ASK them or watch them have sex. Lots of women will kiss and flirt but not go any further. In fact most women are like that exactly. Like I used to be you are probably also stuck with people who are more promiscuous so you assume everyone is like that, and that's a bad way to generalize. Not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:13 PM
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So what lol? That's not the point here at all. He's still single because the relationship grade women are not dating him and he doesn't realize he's the problem. He can't diagnose his own problems and they are clearly internal (attachment and personality issues which make him repel women who are relationship quality). He's still fucking around with women thinking that he can get his cake AND eat it too. The smarter relationship quality women know the guy is a PHONY.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:11 PM
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I started meeting people IRL who showed me that relationship quality people attract and keep relationship quality people I basically changed my social circle somewhat. Went from lower class trashier parties and hookup type people to people who actually get and stay in LTRs (thanks to my cousin, big role model for me).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:09 PM
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Ok thanks for sharing I don't believe you or your stories represent the norm in any ways certainly not today and PUA/TRP concerns younger men primarily.. this MRP old people thing is some small time thing compared to the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:07 PM
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I mean many (most?? like 2/3) young people (high school and college age) will have ONE casual sexual experience at some point just to experience it. From there like 80% of women and 60-70% of men just pursue LTRs. And yeah the lying assholes ruin the pot for honest guys and girls learn quickly from their friends mistakes. I've seen these convos unfold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:06 PM
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Can you show me a link to this guy? All I found was some RooshV rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:03 PM
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Hookup culture is some overblown bullshit. When I was brainwashed in my RP days I thought it was all true. Then I did my research and found out what it was all overblown bullshit and younger people are having less sex than ever. So if anything it should be easier than ever to find an LTR in your early 20s. The only exception is the most promiscuous people: with Tinder they can go wild now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:47 AM
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I have never heard a single person describe meeting their SO this way for any relationship has lasted over a year. It sounds almost exactly like one guy I know from my hometown who I think has had 6 or 7 "girlfriends" over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:46 AM
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I am an alpha HAHAHAHA I just love how badly you want to say that. Nah man, calling /u/sadomasochrist sado can confirm you are little more than a high beta
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:55 AM
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Delaying sex is a great way of getting rid of dudes just looking to fuck. When I was in my casual sex RP/PUA mode for a few years it was literally the most effective way of getting me to stop bothering you, which is exactly what you want. On the other hand a good way to get rid of CC sluts and low self esteem girls is to try and fuck them ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:54 AM
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OLD is disproportionately unattractive people especially for relationships/RMV. I did OLD for a long time and holy shit once you get out of that and focus on real life only you realize how much OLD sucks especially Tinder and similar apps. People who use apps for dating are the biggest idiots around. If they got a 2+ year relationship out of that they got very lucky. Paid old school is better but not by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:50 AM
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You can't read to save your life.. lol I said the happiest couples reported having sex as often as the average in terms of SEX FREQUENCY not happiness that much is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:39 AM
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Dude I lost my V in high school and I bet you were one of the guys who was stuck in a basement somewhere in college masturbating while others were making out or having sex. I'm almost certain you're one of those "late bloomer" types that'll be forever bitter. It must be really hard for you to understand that grown ups have pretty similar schedules if they have normal jobs and that people can smell insecurity, lies/deceit and other bullshit instantly. This goes double for anything involving you b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:38 AM
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And yet he's perpetually single? Come on who is buying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:35 AM
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What do you expect from a dude who's a self admitted nerd and probably sat locked up in a basement during college as a virgin? He'll be forever bitter and jaded. I don't know why you even bother with them I was just like them but not as bad and somehow snapped out of it a few years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:19 AM
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There is more variation for women that's true but if there wasn't an obvious preference for certain types across the board then all men would be rated the about same but that obviously isn't true. Like your fam if 6/10 women found guy 1 attractive but only 2/10 found guy 2 attractive I bet the numbers wouldn't change much with another fam like 7/10 and 3/10 or something for which girls like him and which don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:09 AM
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LOL what a load of bullshit the happiest married couples reported 1x per week which is also the married average - saw that in a link somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:36 PM
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What big leagues what does that even mean lmao?? :D Yeah keep telling yourself that even modestly intelligent girls can't figure you out and get butthurt so bad you even downvote for being reminded of it. "big leagues" hahahhaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:21 PM
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I'm almost 26 bud and dated in AND after college. They aren't too busy in fact grown up schedules are far more tight and they are WAY better at deducing that you're up to shady shit because of that assuming they (or assume you're simply not serious or interested). I had one girl flat out tell me this a few years ago after she decided she won't date me anymore and she was a catch compared to most. You think you're such a genius but you're definitely single and you don't even understand why you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:12 PM
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I have tons of experience dating and I've learned exactly what doesn't work so actually I think you lack common sense. I bet you're single so what do you have to show for it? I'm actually changing my ways because the plate spinning bullshit doesn't work at all for the women who actually have brains and aren't CC sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:21 PM
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I don't know why you went straight to fairy tales but those people have better incomes and areas to live in, which leads to more comfort and life satisfaction as certain petty money and safety issues are avoided. They have employer paid insurance, benefits, send their kids to safer and better schools and wine and dine and travel and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:17 PM
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It doesn't need to protect premarital assets because the person who did not acquire them has no claim on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:15 PM
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Depends heavily on your social circle. WC/LMC people tend to be miserable and full of problems, esp minorities and ghetto ass type people. Been there and then left. Difference is incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:10 PM
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That's the point of a prenup. It's not about things acquired in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:09 PM
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There is no way you can guarantee she won't find out or at the very least suspect it (enough for a dealbreaker) if you are seeing other women every week unless she's retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:08 PM
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Yeah and the happy people aren't sharing shit, news at 11. Want to talk about obtusely missing the point? It's you not getting that you see a 500 unhappy people and assume 100 million people are unhappy. This is obtuse because you're ignoring all of the happy people who you cannot see and who are not talking about their life. Mandatory "real life remark" incoming... because they are too busy enjoying time with their SO and not bitching about their shitty life on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:52 PM
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Nothing makes her an expert she's just some nobody with what is likely a small time publisher who wrote some drivel (no different that most Manosphere writers who I used to hold in high regard till more recent times). Why is your skin so thin man get over the fact that nobodies can say whatever and write books.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:40 PM
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No it minimizes the success of keeping the LTR girl because of the risk of her finding out or suspecting him seeing other women which will make her run off going ICKKK (you said yourself he's gonna get burned??). If this supposedly maximizes things why would you not stick with it yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:32 PM
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The prenup protects FUTURE assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:31 PM
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Yeah as I said (and you acknowledged it) that approach IS terrible but this is was RP basically advocates and I also was that guy and it lost me several potential keepers. If they are gonna casual sex it up while also seeking an LTR they gotta really keep it casual and sporadic... ONS mostly if anything. Oh well some people never learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:18 PM
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Yeah those just sound like idiots in shit relationships man. I mean when I was in an LTR I STOPPED giving a shit about BJs because I'd had so many at that point. Like this shit is good but it gets old esp. if you can get it anytime or during 69 or something. You a facial kinda guy? I did that shit one and it was enough. One girl. One time. Been there done that and once was enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:15 PM
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Meh "hot stable guy" CAN do that too if he want to, he just normally wouldn't because he's smarter and doesn't want to ICK out the LTR girl that he wants in fear or her finding out or suspecting it even
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:10 PM
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Uh no LOL nothing he had made before the wedding is hers. It's assets acquired AFTER the wedding that are "shared."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:56 PM
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Just because you have something "tangible" doesn't make it truthful or representative of people in general either which is exactly the point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:50 PM
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That stretch is getting even bigger if you're using an "extended group" who you no way are intimately familiar with. What kind of cringey ass people share bedroom stories? What kind of people do you mix with man?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:49 PM
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What does frame have to do with anything here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:32 PM
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3-4 years ago I would have believed this bitter world story for sure as being the norm. Today I'm a little smarter than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:26 PM
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Actually it's basically impossible to see beyond your group of peers and even then most of this information is pretty private. Poor ways to prove a point about people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:08 PM
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I'm saying that it's not confirmation bias because the fix action prescribed by MRP works. Conformation bias assumes its incorrect. Confirmation bias just means you treat every bit of new evidence you find as confirming your currently held beliefs without scrutinizing the new evidence. Nothing to do with right or wrong on a standalone basis (it could be as part of a larger argument, which is basically what you got wrong). You basically had issues, found MRP, then ASSUMED that many other people m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:07 PM
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No one is debating whether is "works" or not, we are debating if that group is remotely representative of most marriages or marital problems. And confirmation bias is a GIVEN here lol I mean you basically said "let's find X problem in a place where X Y and Z problems exist."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:44 PM
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I'll defer to /u/PennnyLame's responses as they got what I was pointing out (and refuting that pussy rationing non sense too)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:39 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that that is a horrible place to figure out how many dead beadrooms are out there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:37 PM
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Yeah if you spend your time on "MRP, deadbedrooms" you're going to come to the same false/biased conclusions about how religious people are by doing nothing but spending time in a church lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:42 PM
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I like this dude so I'll hold off on sex because he's important which naturally leads into artificially restrict access This woman told you this or are you pretending that you can read her mind and intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:22 PM
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The funny part is some of the idiots on here think Mr No Brakes Caveman is the epitome of sexiness on that basis only. Which is a total load of bullshit unless you are picking up some nasty ghetto hos
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 04:07 AM
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That's way too little information to judge on but you also just used the word masculinity instead of "sexy" (my original word) which are related but definitely not the exact same thing (and also lacking context it's hard to judge). You need to clarify and stick to the original point please.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:22 PM
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Not at all I just told you they are sexy but incomplete men. The key issue here is you think they are more sexy than my John example but that's a totally baseless claim on several levels that I already explained (I'll repeat myself: John won't/doesn't need to reveal his nurturing traits to women he hardly knows and TWO you never showed that negative correlation claim in the first place).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:53 PM
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A man who has any self respect isn't going to "nurture" someone he hardly knows that makes no sense at all. Yeah I don't care what he/she/it thinks they will spot lol what you're saying is some serious non sense from a practical perspective (where's that link? I like reading some of this stuff). An alpha by your definition is a just a sexy but otherwise incomplete man who would suck as a father or SO
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:50 PM
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Yeah but those nurturing traits won't even be obvious or exposed in the beginning so again that's a non issue
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:47 PM
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Not gonna lie to me it just sounds like you described friendship + sexual attraction which creates a romantic relationship (affection + attachment) lol sounds like you just want to phrase it in a specific way which for some reason jives with you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:25 PM
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I have no idea where you think they are "negatively correlated" to arousal I want a direct link to that claim. More importantly is this.. These traits in practice are IRRELEVANT regardless to her arousal because she won't get to experience them much if at all when meeting the man for the first time. His sexy traits will be at the forefront during their initial interactions. His nurturing traits will only be revealed much later in the courting process.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:22 PM
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No that's not it at all man. Desperate and inexperience go hand in hand those go hand in hand with guys who don't get laid with hot women much if at all so they are very very easily aroused and have very very little stamina in bed. I've read too many stories by these guys online and even heard enough IRL to know this is mostly true. An experienced man isn't going to get that easily aroused but he'll appreciate a sexy girl. The actual physical arousal from her? LOL that's for the inexperienced/de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:20 PM
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Those have nothing to do with both the high beta and alpha having the ability to have all of the same physical and character traits which are sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:15 PM
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We have a great relationship, frequent sex, hardly ever fight and when we do it's productive and generally results in a positive outcome/resolution for both parties. We have a team mindset, always have each other's backs and are pretty much obsessed with each other. I have had several friends tell me privately that we're the most obviously in love couple they know and that they look up to us. Yeah that's how I see the couples I described exactly. Some of these women called their husbands or boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:13 PM
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Second tier meaning they lack the full package of positive traits that a man can have. How are they more arousing if they the high beta can have all of the same physical and character traits which are sexually attractive? I just said this in my John example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:12 PM
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So alpha is a second tier male in general because he's fairly one sided (hot but otherwise worthless) We agree then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:05 PM
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Most hotties are out of most terps leagues and certainly mgtows and other black pill nerds hence they react to them with boners lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:05 PM
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Yeah but beta here is often analogous to mid tier or low tier LTR seeking male, often because he's not sexy to women like most terps or mgtow guys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:03 PM
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What makes you think you and your husband are normal or good role models for other couples? I know more long term successful couples where the people are significantly more involved than you describe. And how is there some weird "mystery" thing going on just because you have separate hobbies? That makes no sense it sounds like what you're really saying it "don't spend so much time together that you grow tired of one another."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:59 PM
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It's a matter of rights (via law for example) vs. a preference for something to be true when you expect it to be. You're right one is a rather HUGE extension of the other which is why there are different words for these things and they are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:54 PM
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So no one has been upset because expectations were never met? They were always entitled, not upset because "not meeting expectations" isn't a thing? Do you know how bizarre you sound in this whole thread? You must be a foreigner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:37 PM
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Nah not at all that's a special group of low SMV men that say that My original comment actually mostly referred to WOMEN calling men SOs their "best friends"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:21 PM
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Because you are so easily turned on it REEKS of desperation and inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:51 PM
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John: physically attractive to many women (will possess most physically positive traits while having few physically negative ones), well-read/smart/skilled/high income, assertive/confident but not aggressive unless strongly provoked first, caring/kind/dependable, honest, passionate. John's strategy: meet physically attractive, self-sufficient (possibly also high income), skilled/well-read, gentle/caring and honest women to date. Likes attract likes, basically. They date.. get to know each other.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:38 PM
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Wtf who is shaming you for virility? I love to last that long because (if you are actually privileged enough to do it raw) it feels great (for both), the girl orgasms more than once (I want to make her feel good) and I build up a really long intense orgasm (I feel really good). I guess this is rocket science to some people here lol but that doesn't surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:24 PM
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It sounds almost like you're making comfort and masculine traits mutually exclusive in any single male and that's total bullshit. Totally made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:11 PM
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Yeah I don't hide it buddyboy, and I also know a dweeb like the dude above who'll blow his load in literally 90 seconds if he ever had sex with a real hottie. I might love my porno but I wouldn't get a hard on over some ho in a dress ffs that's pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:07 PM
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Countless people call their SO their best friend. This is not news to anyone with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:06 PM
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Why not low alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:47 PM
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I'd say you shouldn't be friends with women who aren't attracted to the internal parts of you (personality or interests) while not caring much for sexual (heavily related to physical) attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:44 PM
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OK well even if it were true (which I don't agree it is), who cares? What's the point? What have you accomplished should this be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:20 PM
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So what it doesn't show women act MORE entitled than men lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:05 PM
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I do I also know men who feel like they deserve to be deferred to, cooked for, cleaned after and sexually serviced.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:57 PM
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Of course it's an attempt to change your view. I'm saying your "view" is based on extremely weak evidence. And my life experience don't mirror yours so let's put that out of the way if you don't mind and I can say "man version" things of what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:44 PM
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You Googled "I believe in Christ" and found Christians, basically. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:43 PM
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Why would she branch swing in this example (see above) if her SO is already cream of the crop?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:42 PM
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Judging which gender is more entitled based on whether one style of writing or another is more prevalent from which on the Internet is far from a complete analysis. Sorry but you'll have to expand this like 10 fold to include more acts that show entitlement to be convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:41 PM
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I don't know I can't complain about my athletic performance or the fact that I get morning wood? Are you one of the guys that blew hid load with a stripper rubbing it through your clothing too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:20 PM
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That goes hand in hand actually
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:19 PM
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Yeah that's definitely not the guys around here we all know the pervs around here love their porno
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:18 PM
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As in literally? Then he dumps her, not the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:18 PM
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Yeah and someone who actually fucks a ton of dudes is always the prime example
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:17 PM
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If a young woman who still has options perceives her mate as her best possible choice she will remain loyal to him, attracted to him and seek to please him. If she does not consider him her best choice she will always be subconsciously on the look out for a better man and for the better option present himself she will move on to it. How large of a difference do you think it takes for the woman to actually act on her hypergamic desires here? There comes a point where the men she gets (if she's hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:39 PM
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Drugs have nothing to do with this and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:36 PM
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Lol man you sound like the guy who people make fun of for cumming from a lap dance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:20 PM
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But the low N count girl in the stripper heels and body con dress, flirting with every guy in the bar? I don't care about her N count, she's a slut. Full stop That's called a tease or attention whore... Slut is for women who actually open their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:15 PM
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Yeah, my stamina is low sex drive is really high. Your stamina is guaranteed to suck if you get a boner that easy because you will totally lose it if you actually have sex with the sexy girl LOL. Sex drive is irrelevant unless you are literally fantasizing masturbation style in public (without actually fapping) about any girl in revealing clothing...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:13 PM
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I hope you don't mean that literally lol I mean what kind of low stamina mofo do you have to be to get a boner from looking at a girl in a skanky outfit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:03 PM
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What the hell are you trying to say man damn..!?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:41 PM
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Yeah that's on point man and also mirrors a few of the opinions provided here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:35 PM
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and are often slutty because they have high standards. Everything you said makes sense except for this... this makes no sense at all lol. If two women are comparably attractive and get a similar amount of "offers for sex" the one who is slutty and accepts most often has what can only be called lower standards. Or don't call it standards at all and call it preferences for/against casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:32 PM
1

Yeah in the Northeast I knew tons of black athletes and they were almost always dating black women. Like I don't recall a SINGLE mixed race couple off the top of my head (black male white female)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:20 PM
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The first dude is a Tyrone, so he'll strike out with many white girls. No Stacy for him. The other guy is not a high powered suit lol he's just a mid tier white collar guy. "Financial consultant" means shit all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 05:55 PM
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These idiots also think that if they saw a girl kiss a guy or talk to a guy at a party that basically her n count is going up by 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 04:32 PM
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Most can =/= most do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:25 PM
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As people have said there could be a very real limit to how much you can actually boost your SMV all wishful thinking aside... Reality can be tough man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 04:41 AM
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There was no distinction there, keep pulling out all of the old tricks though I know you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:04 PM
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I understand full well that you contradicted yourself, because there is no reason to get rid of something which is "OK" for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:00 PM
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I don't really feel harassed the ones who are into me like keep finding excuses to talk to me but there is no openly sexual moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:45 PM
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Why would you get rid of your insecurity of your paternity if insecurity is an OK thing (according to you) and a good thing I'd say (if you are certain of paternity) ... you make no sense at all - cheap troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:37 PM
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Uh let's see... they got into an LTR in their early 20s and stayed in it? Had a few LTRs before that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:05 PM
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I mean you can think it's reliable all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:55 PM
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No one cares enough to reply if they don't agree a bit while upvoting is pretty easy. Dumb metric for someone from a fancy school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:51 PM
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If you want people to understand you more clearly you should find better examples, otherwise you'll just assume they understood you when they didn't and that happens a lot around here. If you don't care then that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:46 PM
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The whole package is what women judge on sure that much I can agree with. Your tired old examples need a refresh though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:42 PM
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Right but what's the focus with frat bros in particular? Did you just randomly pick that example? They are a minority even at your school and other people also partied and many of the ones who did get the actual best jobs weren't usually in frats at least at CM where my cuz went.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:35 PM
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Yeah Investment Banking is the competitive one and some investment positions at Blackrock are competitive (ultra competitive) and the actual consulting roles at the big consulting firms .. the rest is 2nd tier and totally frat bro material. And mind you that's some higher end "frat bros" not even stereotypical idiot types.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:25 PM
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Most traders there are little more than sales jocks lol unless you're talking derivative trading wizkids from Harvard .. this is straight the horse's mouth what they told me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:24 PM
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"Finance" doesn't mean anything dude it could be totally mediocre white collar crap I am talking about very specific, ultra competitive roles that have high salaries in the beginning and a ton of room for growth. Finance has sales/account management too. I researched this stuff a few years ago when I was getting my shit together and talked to my cuz's classmates extensively who all went to a fancy private 4 year school in the Northeast.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:52 PM
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Yeah you're right about those specific roles but that's got nothing on people going into big name tech or big name finance (or big name law is you wanna count grad school) into very specific roles which also have huge long term potential without having to have shit life full of travel (or terrible hours). Like M&A advisory or portfolio management roles in investments or working at FB or Google are way better than sales or account management.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:43 PM
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Hot I really can't judge... credentialed... yeah to some degree... stable? Now stable is probably where they actually do the worst, unless you are saying that "unstable" is a jobless bum or guy who flops between BK and McDs joints as a burger flipper. But you got the fun + some money part right. The basics work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:40 PM
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You're either trolling with hyperbole or delusional. I had my problems with women esp 3-4 years ago but damn even I don't ever think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:36 AM
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This is why “douchey frat bros” swim in pussy. They’re fun but also get the best money making jobs. Good but second tier jobs. There's a small group of guys and gals who were 50/50 work hard party hard types who were also socially savvy in my cuz's college who got the real fancy jobs in tech and finance and most of them dated each other long term and were almost never breaking up. The frat bros were 80 party 20 work clowns who could never compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:04 AM
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Your "neutrally phrased responses" are loaded with insinuation and basically shrieking in shock that how dare I think things here are being derailed on purpose away from the actual topic. Go shriek somewhere else I'm done with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:52 AM
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It says more about what's going on in their head for sure. Women are usually being offered sex or whatever and then they either say yes or no. With men the men might not be that interested in casual sex (so low partner count) or they might be interested and just not getting any (also low partner count). Granted high n count men could be fattyfuckers to the max so...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:50 AM
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Why are you in particular shrieking at me this entire thread? I never said anything about previous sexual partners I specifically said total or near total lack of sexual experience is not the same thing as n counts because they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:22 PM
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The conversation isn't about n counts and whether women care it's about how weird it is for older males (like 25+) essentially to have no sexual history (which is obviously weird but not the question you're asking).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:45 PM
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No, she's replying to my comment and I'm asking what her point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:43 PM
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This thread turned from n counts to "did he ever have sex before me" which is not even remotely the same thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:11 PM
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Low N men didnt occur to me at all all i came to reddit So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:09 PM
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There's a difference between "no sexual history" and "some normal amount of sexual history" and "way too fuckin much sexual history."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 08:45 PM
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I mean who even goes to feminists for anything given that they are like a tiny minority of all women or people? I may have had problems in the past with relationships but that has nothing to do with me getting advice from feminists.. so are terps and other Manosphere guys victims of feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:32 PM
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I see how those numbers are quite well reflective of reality when you stop using a really shitty selection of people to represent millions of people. Like I said I was you years ago and I realized how wrong I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:31 PM
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Brilliant argument man... "I'm not blind.. you are." I mean you can keep telling yourself that lol I don't give a shit but all less biased sources of info say otherwise. What do you mean why? For a "not blind" guy it should be so obvious. They don't want to just be used for sex and potentially perceived as sluts, so they vet guys more seriously (longer, more scrutiny). They have no interest in just sex and why would they if they can get the physical pleasure by reaching in their underwear with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:12 PM
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Yeah sounds about right, maybe above average actually. Most women are either single or only getting with guys who are more of a sure thing for an LTR. Some people are just stuck in circles where low value people sleep around trying to one up each other and get lucky. I used to be one of them for a bit and I finally see that I was just stuck with shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 05:40 AM
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Does that mean you think all men have the same standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:45 PM
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So IRL where people have certain images to uphold you take their crap at face value (for a HANDFUL of people you sampled) but thousands of people on govt surveys with privacy is incorrect? Like how does that many any sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:39 PM
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In what sense? Whatever it may be, how can you possible think men are all the same??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:37 PM
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Yeah totally they are lying to everyone except you, how do you even begin to think that's real? And you'd be surprised how many women don't go all the way with guys they make out with and yeah even "cuddle."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:27 PM
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I'm not sure I follow your line of reasoning... also I try to focus on what's common or expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:26 PM
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Sluts are gonna slut man of course
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:21 PM
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Yeah I'm sure all of the girls in the dorm were telling you about their last night sexual encounter in detail I mean wtf are you on about? They are lying about totals in some private survey thing and then not hiding it when it really matters lololol are who are you kidding? I lived off campus but visited my cousin and bro in college who lived in dorms and no one was talking about their hook ups the following day during my numerous sleepovers that's such horseshit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:21 PM
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Yeah of course most are not open to that lol especially the more beautiful ones Even casual relationships are usually exslusive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:18 PM
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Inexperienced men are no better than experienced men. In what sense? I'm not following. You mean inexperienced are not better for LTR material? If that's the case I'd argue that lots of experienced men have some attachment issues or other mentally ill bullshit which gave them the "experience" aka lots of n count and that's not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:17 PM
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Well for what it's worth people here have posted sexuality data from government surveys that were done privately to thousands of people that's probably as good as it gets and yeah it's nothing like what these people are making up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:15 PM
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I've been with virgins and sluts dude, the difference in performance in bed is tiny. If the virgins aren't retards they will follow your directions quite easily and will do better than a dumb slut. This I stand behind 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:12 PM
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Most men have way higher standards than you think. Most average dudes will say NO to ugly fatties even for sex just to avoid embarrassment. Now the highly attractive guys? Even higher standards. These guys will usually LTR the first Stacy they "match" with for lack of a better way to say it (and why not? lots of on demand sex with Stacy is as good as it gets ... way better than random sex with some slightly above average hos).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:10 PM
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I have no idea where you are getting these numbers but how do you think you know what millions of strangers are doing in their bedrooms? I mean seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:06 PM
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How can you possibly think you can know what is "common" or not for millions of strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 07:58 PM
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Because they are supposedly overreporting or underreporting in all cases so it doesn't matter these same supposed problems affect all of the numbers. When I looked into the actual info on this it turned out that big cities less promiscuous than smaller cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 07:32 PM
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Doesn't matter if they do or don't in this case, big city numbers are actually the smallest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:00 PM
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The vast majority of people are totally unconcerned with this topic once they graduate from high school. I think this is BS. They just assume that there's nothing off or weird about their partner, and while that might be true most of the time... it's the handful of times that they are wrong that are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:09 PM
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Big cities have women reporting the lowest n counts. Someone posted a link about it a few weeks ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:07 PM
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Like 10 to 15% of women have a count over 10, what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:05 PM
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And here you are losing your shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:36 PM
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That's like a little league trophy at that point lol .. he'd have to be huge boned too otherwise he's just a beanpole nobody cares about I knew a shitton of incel grade tall guys in college
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:24 PM
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Find a ruler and take a look at a 15cm. This is the difference between "tall" and "short" ... LOL. It's really not a huge deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 06:57 PM
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Yeah I saw that it was 19% online and the rest offline. It was the largest single "category" though and some idiots thought that meant "online is now bigger than offline" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 05:09 PM
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Hmm.. I think Tinder is much worse than clubs lol a lot of those girls aren't slutty at all they just go out to hang out with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 05:08 PM
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Oh ok yeah Tinder for sure, but way less of an issue with the traditional online dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 05:05 PM
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The idea here is that you're supposed to hide them from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:41 PM
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Yeah but some of the girls who join OLD will still leave as low N count. not sure what your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:30 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:18 PM
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For #2 you are missing the women who are new to OLD and still have low n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:10 PM
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Hahahaahah see you actually equated "charismatic" with intro/extro I mean you really have no idea what you are talking about. Cool trick with the bullshit in the last line, MBTI puts me about about 50/50 E/I. Go read something by Carl Jung before you run your mouth on this topic again. Hint: most people are not E/I heavy enough for this to actually impact them in any big way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:49 PM
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Who said anything about virgins wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:45 PM
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I think the only value in OLD is the paid dating sites and on those only people with extensive profiles. Shows they aren't lazy, have something (hopefully interesting) to say about themselves and likely more serious about meeting someone compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:14 PM
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They are almost always going to be judged I mean come on..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:04 PM
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I'm making none you have no idea what an introvert is. Introverts have very little to do with overall success in dating or attractiveness and you have no idea what the definition of this word even is from a psychology background.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:04 PM
1

I have no problem getting laid, but finding an LTR partner is a bigger issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:02 PM
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I don't know maybe it actually kills your expectations because you go through disappointments instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 08:46 PM
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Why wouldn't any man care about it? Sluts made some big choices and they say something about them and their lifestyle and what kind of partners they will be. More like oblivious and dumb men don't care. Men who do care come in varying quality. Not all high quality men are high partner count that's total bullshit. They may be often be above average but not necessarily high.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 08:34 PM
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What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 08:29 PM
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High conflict people have underlying personality traits that to everyone else are issues like I said you can call it whatever you like but it doesn't change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 07:11 PM
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A high conflict person and low conflict person will end up in conflict too hence the high conflict person is the issue or has issues. No need to sugar coat this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:33 PM
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What do you think causes high conflict relationships?? Issues. You can call it whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:20 PM
1

Man seafood used to be a mystery to me but I'm getting into it now....... what do you like from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:08 PM
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I gotta ask how many of those men know about their little princesses slutty past LOL. Hmm probably not many because they are naive idiots thinking past decision don't matter. You'll find a guy who is also a man slut so if you don't care that's cool or you'll find a clueless naive idiot. Take your pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 05:48 PM
1

Cool man what do you cook? I'm getting into cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 05:44 PM
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i dont consider normie women who ride the cc a little in college to be "Sluts" though. i mean congenital sluts, like me The CC college mini sluts have the same issues just not as bad with one big difference: I think they tend to be more full of shit as they try to hide their sluttiness
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 05:43 PM
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I'll have to check that out at some point there's a Total Wine a while away from me and I heard they have classes. Good to know girls dig that stuff some chick here got insulted by raging reds in a thread a few days ago when she said her friend was turned off by a guy being clueless about drinks. Oh and I love hearing about splurges but you don't have to share if you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:38 PM
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I'm getting into food now but want to add wine and what not to that one day. Too bad its pricey but I think it'll help me with the classier ladies. My cousin who is a little older than me is a fancy elite law associate in NYC and I've definitely had my eyes opened to what the people he mixed with are into (I'd love to date women he knows or his fiancee knows but I'm not in their league honestly lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:17 PM
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Yeah for sure I wanna buy you a beer for that one (fuck reddit and reddit gold)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:04 PM
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I mean I agree with some classic RP bits but these days RP is anything great and the rest is BP crap. Does this idea work? Yes! It's RP! Does this stink? It's BP/not RP. So sad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:36 PM
2

That "book" made me feel like I was reading something written by a mentally handicapped kid and I'm no intellectual wizkid by any measure. I got through like 2/3 of it then quit because it was making me gag. Mark Manson's "Models" was a million times better than that garbage. Edit: lol this is triggering the idiots with no defense of that book to downvote, so sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:29 PM
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You did confuse the two. You have no idea what an introvert is (I did some pretty extensive and rather hard to get through reading on this topic recently) and now you're going to scurry off to Google to find out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:06 PM
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And another one. You're getting too predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:05 PM
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The thing is these guys won't figure anything out if they haven't already this is like 99% of the problem with most Manosphere stuff. You're going to need an array of guides covering a handful of styles, then. Generic is as bad as no advice to these men. It took me forever to finally figure it out but I stepped out of my comfort zone and tried a more euro style to fit my relatively lean medium height medium frame body (I'm half Cuban half white) and it works well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:05 PM
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Yeah that doesn't sound like bullshit at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:01 PM
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Just world isn't so just but poor character doesn't need some godly force to feel repercussions. Poor character can be seen by people around you and they will return poor character back to you. That's what people mean when they say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:40 PM
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That still makes it far more of an entitlement than access to sex for all thirsty losers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:23 PM
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And their little pudgy legs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:06 PM
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What are you talking about?? Just because not everyone has access to soup kitchens and homeless shelters doesn't mean that a majority decision wasn't made which deemed these things are what are essentially entitlements (to life).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:05 PM
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Is that like some inside joke or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:47 PM
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You have a ridiculously low bar? Cmon man I bet you don't even notice the average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:46 PM
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TRP does tell guys to hit the gym, wear decent clothes, get a good haircut, etc. obviously do what you can to look good, but it's pointless to worry about the things you can't realistically change like height or race or facial bone structure. Yeah problem is that specific advice (bad or good) is hard to come by there and exactly why I stopped reading that shit years ago. What is a GOOD haircut or "decent' clothes? RP sucks ass at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:44 PM
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Hah ok essentially the entire rest of the paragraph was blah bla bla about looks (genetic fitness).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:43 PM
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Yes look at "RP views" lol "Alpha, or Alpha Traits, are those traits the RP model of human sexuality defines as "Instinctively Sexually Attractive" such as height and status in males, or youth and WHR in females. As such it aligns closely with "Markers of Genetic Fitness" as described in Evolutionary Psychology. However, it is independent of this source and RP includes things in Alpha traits based on experience in real world dating even if there is no scientific backing."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:23 PM
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Most people agreed and majority rule is a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:22 PM
1

You guys really need to stop confusing introverts and shut ins, you don't actually have any idea what an introvert is in any psychology related sense of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:22 PM
1

Your empty response basically means you have no idea what you actually want in a girl or you're too afraid to say it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:10 PM
1

Your local RP mod made a looks based alpha definition in the PPD jargon sidebar page lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:09 PM
1

People have decided that you are in fact entitled to one and not the other regardless of how you feel about it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:08 PM
1

According to some alpha = good looking though ... so that kind of makes your argument moot. If you go with good looking and shy vs. ugly and confident then yeah the good looking guy will win with most women. Being good looking enough isn't optional
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 01:35 PM
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How about all of the short guys supposedly no one loves lol you want one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 01:28 PM
1

And what do you want then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:02 AM
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I already said that one is necessary for survival to an individual (and one is very helpful) and the other is not (sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:02 AM
0

Comparing food/shelter and sex is dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 09:46 PM
1

Low value loser got triggered by some internet post.. wtf is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:41 PM
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The mentality of most men in here is the same that I was in 3-4 years ago. Low value dudes who are lazy and don't know how to make a woman attracted plus totally overvalue their self worth cause their head is up their ass and they think that their philosophical mental masturbation makes them hot shit..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:53 PM
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Boring dude had charm or anything and messed up hard and that's it. It's true you can't teach class or charm on some internet forum
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:48 PM
0

Whoa.. the "autistic" counter good one, sport
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:46 PM
0

Don't ask me that's how the world works whether you like it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:46 PM
1

What reality lol? That you have clue what you want? That's a fact. The rest is all up for debate due to being fluff talk on a forum
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:46 PM
1

Not what I'm talking about... Chad genetics will make those guys into Chads with those activities too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:45 PM
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Yeah some people here are good with posting links I wish I had more of them and others are just jerkin themselves off talking about themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:57 PM
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Dude there is really no way for you to know what is happening in the population at large. You think if you know a few studs and incels that you are suddenly possessing accurate info regarding all people? That's crazy talk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:56 PM
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OK buddy you think 5 years will make a huge difference? No. Sources or GTFO please
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:47 PM
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Yeah I could tell you that LOL I mean your standards are easily brought into question. Some high level admins who aren't fat and went to community college or some state school are mid tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:44 PM
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None of that is going to explain why they look like model Chads with built pecs and delts and perfect V-shaped bodies. That's called genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:43 PM
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"There are more studs" ... dude how can you even begin to make a claim like this? Do you read the minds of people? Did you like exist 20 years ago as an adult? I doubt it. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm In the last 13-14 years nothing had changed much. Plus or minus like 1 partner or less. You can find more data from that source if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:42 PM
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Food and shelter are actually provided by the government to the people in need so yeah people are entitled to it in some way. Your reply is just a failed wise ass gotcha and she's actually right. You either earn your way to sex or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:27 PM
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No, dude. That's bullshit. Where do you get your information? Post direct links to sources, no articles or blog crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:19 PM
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One is vital, the other highly necessary for survival of an individual. Sex on the other hand is not. What kind of stupid ass comparison is that for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:18 PM
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OK if so I'm with you there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:17 PM
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In Eastern Europe n counts increased? In the US and maybe other parts of the West they are the same or lower than before actually, especially for younger people based on real data which some users have posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:16 PM
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People generally have fewer friends as they get older .. that's my observation for 90% plus of people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:12 PM
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Why you are complaining about this is the real question...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:09 PM
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That could still be mid tier given that we know nothing of their education or career, or even looks beyond being "fit."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:06 PM
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That's exactly what high RMV men and women are doing, and they are doing it far younger than some shut ins claim in most parts of the Manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:01 PM
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LOL dude no way Derek went through even 10% of those women. That guy is either full of shit or goes through mid tier at best women (likely lower) in terms of all in RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:53 PM
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Nah like 80% of people still meet offline. Online is a fairly small minority when considering ALL offline vs online.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:49 PM
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Problem is will listening to reformed failures really get you the level of success you want? Manosphere reformed "figured it out" types might have learned something, but they are usually still mid tier at best. The natural dude usually have a way higher level of capability and you just need to get the right bits out of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:37 PM
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Well that attitude works so long as you're happy with what you're matching with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:36 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:33 PM
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What does that have to do with what kings wanted and if that's applicable to 99% of normal men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:04 PM
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I mean what relevance does a literal handful of people have to other men? Why do you think KINGS represent the norm for men as opposed to the opposite of normal mens desires??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 03:52 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 03:42 PM
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No they are not what are you talking about? Through friends, in college and at work are all "offline." What are you even trying to pull here you can't understand basic math and the difference between online and offline apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:15 PM
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So basically 15-20% actual lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 05:34 PM
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Hahahahah lol did you just read the headline? 19% is the total online, all of the other categories are offline. So yes, 81% is NOT online and therefore the vast majority of people still meet the old fashioned way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 05:04 PM
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Yeah taht's bullshit you can easily find data that says that like 80% of people still do real dating ... where do you get your made up info?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:56 PM
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Nah dude there are body types and shapes and exercise can't change that. That and face is also genetic. There are also lots of studies that show that height is less important than face or body related things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:55 PM
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What's a big assumption? That no one has it all or that tall me can often be quite unattractive due to other features lacking?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:54 PM
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A man's face or body can also cause an instant rejection. So who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:24 PM
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Teeth is face related, skin is likely considered part of face (clear skin). So there's that. I didn't say anything about "#1" for face. I said face (facial traits by extension obviously) > height. Eyes were same as height (another facial trait). https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a19535604/top-20-traits-she-wants/ Here's another survey via Google (you really need to look for this stuff yourself) that asked when which physical traits they liked in 1 part of it. Face > height.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:28 PM
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I read your comment. I think you are wrong because you are being illogical and making things up all at the same time. There is NO evidence women prefer height over all other things AND those things are also ALL genetically given to a guy, like height. Just you talking bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:17 PM
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Hmm.. that would mean there is some relationship between body shape and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:15 PM
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What do you think all of the other male physical traits are? Fucking pixie dust lol? Face, body bone structure is all genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:10 PM
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Facial attractiveness is still part of masculinity (sexy male face traits). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232572264_You're_only_as_pretty_as_you_feel_Facial_expression_as_a_determinant_of_physical_attractiveness Here is a link that shows that face > body for attractiveness. I did a Google search for "gender most attractive body parts" and found: http://academic.udayton.edu/MatthewMontoya/pubs/Montoya_CRISP.pdf This was a basic survey that asked people what they most important parts ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:07 PM
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It depends on how good he is in the other departments. You think tall men with average faces and bodies get a lot of ONSs lol?? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:43 PM
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Where do you get this bullshit man? Where are you from for realz? What kind of people do you put yourself around??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:41 PM
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Yeah dude I hear everything BUT height being talked about when guys are talked about. Weird. The 6'3 guy you mentioned.. yeah.. sure... he also has to have a super attractive face AND body LOL. MR PERFECT! These women then wake up to reality and make some compromises. Lots of 6'3 men are ugly as hell and have little success with women (ugly faces, bodies, etc) or shitty personalities and no brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:35 PM
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"Damned if you damned if you don't" is your motto buddy lol. Total bullshit, basically. There is a difference between authentic masculine behavior (honest) and overcompensating (fake) masculine behavior and that's the key difference. You're not a girl and will never understand what womens' brains are wired to view as hot or sexual. Read some science on this and stop making up bullshit. There is more evidence that faces or body shapes (v-tapers) make men hot rather than height. There's also prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:33 PM
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Average height women (5'4) should have no issues at all because very few men are below 5'5 anyway unless they have some height obsession and it's a huge thing to them. Like that's not even something they are going to think about, it's all gonna come down to other stuff looks wise. I have just heard that a lot of women don't want to feel bigger than a guy. I keep reading this crap on places like reddit and never see it play out much IRL. Fatties hit on fit dudes and the fit dudes are often quite …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:25 PM
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You should stop basing your world view on what idiots on the Internet post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:21 PM
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"Pretty boys" OK I don't know exactly what you mean but handsome/pretty men like Gravel_Roads described with masculine personality traits will do WAY better with women (especially beautiful, model level women) than just masculine men. WAY better. No debate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:21 PM
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Yeah that's true but no one has it all... most tall guys aren't hot due to having unattractive faces, being out of shape or having unattractive bodies due to bone structure. Such is life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:11 PM
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It really makes no sense for super short girls to care about height LOL given they are going to be like half a foot shorter than short 5'5-5'7 men unless I guess they are like walking balls of fat. SMH... Although in my experience some of my super successful shorter guy friends (super fit and handsome but not tall like 5'6 or so) get attention for similar height fatties all the time ... so that size thing is bullshit for the most part if the dude is generally hot. (They also reject those women m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:10 PM
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To be honest those dudes are lucky as hell because if they also have some good level of assertiveness or masculinity in their behavior they completely destroy most men when it comes to attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:07 PM
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Some of my guy friends who are 5'5 - 5'7 have been called sexy or hot or handsome plenty of times. There are a ton of physical things which make a dude attractive (face, body type, swagger/style, etc) what is the retarded obsession with height in this place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:58 PM
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Most men aren't desperate and do resist plenty of women and reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:43 PM
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Well if you read all of the science behind human attraction you can get a better idea of what works in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:37 PM
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Honestly I don't think most men are that crazy about them either it's mostly a Manosphere guy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:37 PM
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Yeah but his "point" is not wrong. That difference in wants is what causes the difference in difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:13 PM
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No this is total desperation. Other men wouldn't react like that to being "surrounded" by women. Healthy, normal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:03 PM
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I'm in the gym 4-5 times per week, they come on more sporadically. Unless they are randomly there on Saturday, which most people are not. Basically I'd see them more often. They have normal jobs based on their outside of gym clothing. I know enough about them to make a pretty accurate conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:03 PM
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Don't project your out of control desperation for sex of female attention on that dude, bro. I also have female friends who I don't find attractive enough sexually for anything more than a platonic relationship and we have shared interests so that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:24 PM
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If a majority of people agree on something then yeah that thing is likely "true" or at least it has some value (or lack of value) depending on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:20 PM
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Yeah you can continue to be one the vague something something nobodies on here that will later admit that he's actually a 24 year old virgin engineer. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:04 PM
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Yeah bro definitely don't tell him if you went to like one of 3000 public school here lol don't do it you'll be "doxxed" right away
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:42 PM
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Well this is why you avoid marrying low income low effort dumbos most of the time, except clearly most men can't and aren't worth the women who actually contribute financially to a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:39 PM
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Hate to say this man but your bone structure is way more important in making you look like "you work out" in slim fitting clothing more than anything else. Insertions/origins of the muscles, etc. I've tried all sorts of routines and eaten correct macros and I look like nothing like the gym Chads who work out 50% less than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:56 AM
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I think most people just suck at not just knowing what are the most powerful traits of attraction in general, but they are also terrible at fully understanding how their own attraction works. They mostly go with what's super obvious, but that's not necessarily what is most powerful/important. It's a cognitive bias issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:52 AM
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What I know is you haven't explained why any of that is important in this specific case, which is debunking large scale evidence that height doesn't actually mean much if anything at all when it comes to getting laid using partner counts as a metric, which is kind of like the "king" metric here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:44 AM
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Of course you can't argue it, but not because I don't understand it, but because it's completely irrelevant in this case. You can move the bar to all kinds of heights when the current evidence doesn't support your preconceived notions and then force a stalemate if you want... go for it. By the way your assertion that OLD is a "good scientific test" of IRL is hilarious. Like straight up hilarious. It totally ignored most of the chemistry that people feel when they first meet and much of OLD data …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 10:56 PM
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None of your argument holds water. First of all, with the large sample size, every group of men is a MIX of all kinds of traits in your list (facial attractiveness, status, muscularity and physical fitness, and career attainment or education) so therefore the key difference is only height. How do you not possibly see that? (Height is controlled, all else is a MIX of good and bad in all other men). Also, yeah, men MIGHT be lying, but they are all lying. Why would you assume that only one group of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 10:44 PM
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What more do you want when the question is totally straightforward? It's thousands of men with one variable that is controlled for: height. Group by height then calc the numbers. Simple. If height was all that important it would have a way huger impact since men have a shitload of thirst for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:49 PM
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That's peanuts man, real life is a different ball game. Most men report no difference in past n count by height. Only very short men. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/very-short-men-have-fewer-sex-partners/ So much for that theory Waiting for that quote now when you get home!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:07 PM
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Can you provide a direct quote from the book? I don't believe that there was anything in there about ranking physical traits. Most likely it was just a list of traits which are important, but nothing about importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:12 PM
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You mean Buss speculated a whole bunch about why women like some traits in men? Great but we can do much better than let one guy's speculation tell us what is what (and he mostly talks about WHY, which is less important here). Look up some studies where various physical traits are compared to others and see what comes out on top. It's never height.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:26 PM
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Link those supposed books. Most of the stuff I have read over the 4+ years that I've been following RP related material have shown that adonis ratios and facial ratios are way more important than height or or absolute size. And to your point a 5'4 man with a 9/10 face is actually likely about as attractive if not more attractive than some 6'4 dude with a 6/10 face. Face > height. Data shows that really short men only report ONE less partner than very tall men, but that assumes most of their face…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:15 PM
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Bro what do you want from someone on here who reeks of an odd mix of hoity toity and ghetto?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:39 PM
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I mean, I'm not sure. You're the one who asked for a source, but now it seems like you're agreeing with me that women want masculine men. No I want a source that says size differences have some big impact arousal or attraction. I sincerely doubt that. I'm not saying height is the be-all end-all, but I don't think it's controversial to say that women generally prefer men taller than them. At a subconscious level this is because taller=bigger=masculine, which in turn makes her feel more feminine. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:25 PM
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Most overweight American women that I've seen are with men at least as big as they are. And the men are generally still more masculine than them in other ways. Right so clearly the size thing isn't a big deal. From my boys the biggest slayers are around average height and all lean and they are the ones with the hotties and these hotties aren't way smaller than the dudes, many about the same size. And no I am questioning the strength of that desire, not if it exists or not. To me it doesn't seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:59 PM
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How are all of the overweight American women getting aroused and feeling feminine then when they are largely the same size as their men?? That sounds like something the incels came up with lol I want to see a source for that and no I don't want your explanation as a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:22 PM
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Yeah... the spread for women rating men is even wider, though again not by much. Women tend to disagree more on which men are attractive, this is math proven. But of course some people are still better looking than other on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 03:50 PM
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Yeah you really need to figure out how to read a basic graph, and also remind yourself of what "mean" and "standard deviation" are. Ratings are 0-100 here (we can translate to 0-10). It shows that the spread changes with the average rating of the photo. For a woman in a photo rated 6.8/10 on average the standard deviation is ~2.4 (eyeball here). Do you know what this means? I'll assume not, so here it goes: This means that assuming the ratings follow an approximate bell curve that: 66.7% of rati…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 03:27 PM
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I've been doing quite a bit of reading about all of this attraction and dating business for some years now and I found one big piece of this question. The full spread as you call it is pretty big. So yes, someone might be a 4 to one person and 8 to another. With an average of "6" for the target person. See here - the standard deviation is quite large, and it's not quite just a matter of outliers (though I agree some ratings are) https://www.researchgate.net/figure/fig1_26241100
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 02:31 PM
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Sounds to me like you just don't want to accept that the current way is accurate enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:53 PM
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They definitely don't have all day to do it but why not during some of their free time or lunch break or something? You can spend like 30 mins a day here (like me) and post/read a decent bit. So basically no one is able to have an honest opinion of certain other people being assholes or pieces of shit basically, without themselves being "insecure". That makes no sense at all, because that means that hating on assholes that hurt animals basically makes you insecure. In our case it's shitting on m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:35 PM
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Why would you think a diary is more trustworthy? Does memory of a sexual encounter really get that fuzzy? For the people not getting action regularly, it'll be something they cherish and remember well. For people in LTRs, that will be something very recent most likely that they can therefore recall quickly and accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:32 PM
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Those would still be self reports lol wtf unless you think normal people will let themselves get monitored during sex or something which is just a big NO?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:51 PM
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And what do you propose instead of self reports?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:25 PM
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I never read that post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:14 PM
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You clearly missed where the double standards are LOL (hint: not in how they respond to being accused of having double standards indirectly with these dumb "gotcha" questions).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:40 PM
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No you're just trolling as usual with your "question" by pointing out a double standard which is supposed to incite a brawl which is of course what this place is all about and always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:28 PM
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People here think it's a great debate to point out obvious double standards apparently. Been that way forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:19 PM
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Flying cars 10-20 years away... every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:12 PM
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I'd be surprised and disappointed more than offended because it would show that she doesn't view me as trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:09 PM
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I think it becomes anti-validation at some point. Imagine tons of thirsty low value women (fatties let's say) constantly hitting you up. No gorgeous girls. What do you think you're going to think of yourself? A low value dude who is not worth the good ones attention. So I think it might have the opposite effect sometimes!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:07 PM
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So you're saying it's impossible for a UMC guy to say that "Poster A is a piece of shit based on what he says here" without actually being insecure when they also point out that they are better off than Poster A? How else would they convey this over the Internet? How does that make any sense at all? That's a cute little "mind trick" to cope with being reprimanded by someone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:03 PM
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If everyone did it your way then no one would give anything first, so no reciprocation could ever happened. Only a weak ass pansy is going to be afraid of giving a little as a way to see if the other person will reciprocate, because that weak ass pansy has nothing to give or is afraid of losing what little he has. High value people will "give" plenty without blinking an eye and not feel bad about not getting anything in return - they'll just know to avoid giving to certain someones in the future…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:11 AM
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People here will claims all kinds of stuff like "they are using new definitions" etc etc. I personally only buy a small part of AF/BB, which isn't even alpha/beta necessarily, since AF/BB is more from the female POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:06 AM
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How about using the class argument or crapping all over people who you think are just scumbags or assholes (to them and to others)? Does that still make them "insecure" or are they just doing an honest putdown of someone they think is a general piece of crap in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:02 AM
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No, simply pointing out differences in classes is not automatically bragging. But you can tell the ones who are bragging because they will straight up say "you're jealous of me because I'm more middle class than you", which is basically what someone said to me the other week. I do not believe that person is UMC at all, that's not how UMC peeps act. Lol for real? I lurked here over the years and even posted 3-4 years ago, but never saw that. Can you show me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:28 PM
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How do you know they lied, dude? How do you know how much they lied? What are your sources? Your point stands for virgins and nothing else. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:52 PM
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I got done with screwing around casually, online and IRL. I want something more and online is definitely out for that. Doesn't change my point at all though that the men online are disposable attention for lower value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:51 PM
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Well sure dude you can call whoever you want an 8 or 7.3 or whatever thanks for sharing but that doesn't even begin to add up to "high value" woman since you ignored the rest of the package. Yeah I'm sure you think you're super special with your "high status job" (yeah right) and "great looks" (that sounds super objective and legit lol). And the proof that you can't even get a GF online (easy for any high status guy) is telling. Even the low value online women dispose of you. Ouch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:45 PM
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LOL yes in some random fucking. Then she disposes of you. You were the cream of the shit pile for a girl who was into casual sex and fucks lots of other guys. Well done. You might be getting sloppy second sand don't even realize it.Yet for countless girls most of the men online are worthless but they settle (a lot) for whatever they can get in terms of attention and male company. Mostly lower value women by any consensus who can't lock down what they really want: a high value male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:36 PM
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Well you have no better source of actual information for that topic. And no, 1 partner is not that big of a deal. A median partner count of 4 instead of 3, or 5 instead of 6 is not game changing information. If you believe it is, how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:33 PM
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Nobody in the UMC drives lambos unless they spend most of their income on it, come on LOL that is BS. $150-200K cars for for entry level upper class people (top 1% in the USA) who make 300-400K per year at least and can reasonably expect to save enough for what is nothing but a toy. UMC people drive new imported cars here. MC people drive the 5 year old Benz. LMC/WC people drive 10-15 year old Benzes (to use Benz as an example of all classes). Anyway yeah the PPD UMC people are actually MC IMO a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:31 PM
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Where did you get this idea that middle class people (your words: "I'm better than you cuz I'm so middle class") are "new money" they don't really have much money to speak of LOL. Even UMC people generally don't brag about money per se even if they make more than 90% of other people. And I'm still missing the point about insecurity. Any amount of bragging or overtly displaying confidence is actually a lack of confidence? LOL. OK. Is that how you cope with other people rubbing success in your fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:54 PM
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Some random women fucking some random guy shows what exactly? Nothing, really, beyond that some girl wanted to fuck for some reason. What does she ultimately want or prefer? I never brought up YOUR desires here even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:51 PM
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It can't be all working class, simply no way. WC family kids often don't go to college even today.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:49 PM
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The amount of inflation or deflation of partner counts is minimal. One partner at the most for most people. Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:48 PM
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That's because most men are utter trash at presenation. They think that plain blue jeans and a "washed" t shirt is "good styling."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:51 PM
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Chili's drinks make someone I know sick (like painful stomach ache) every time they go (I think they stopped going there after this happened 2-3 times) I prefer TGIF I bet there is a ton of variation between each outlet with these restaurants
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:38 PM
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I don't think you can even tell the difference between insecurities and bragging lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:37 PM
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Too bad the women with the smartphones don't actually value any of the 1000s or 100s of randoms at all. They may as well not exist. It's like offering a dude shit. He's not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:32 PM
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is calling a family that earns $2M/year and one that earns $10M/year both UC dumb? 2M and 10M per year is much closer in lifestyle than 150K and 600K. See the point? Thanks for the other link. Like I said it seems like the definitions are all over the place. Not just yours. All of them. And yes, you're just arbitrarily picking one and saying it's official. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_States#Academic_models The "rich" and "upper class" are clearly mixed together often…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:21 PM
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I've read all of the relevant materials on that topic and the up/down is not much. About 1 partner for at the population level. Nothing basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:18 PM
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Uh ok then who could you possibly be referring to or know in any useful capacity from the ultra rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:17 PM
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You're just arbitrarily defining this stuff, there are no agreed upon definitions of it. Social (socioeconomic) class textbooks which are summarized on placed like wiki give a much broader definition of it. You're basically defining UC as ultra rich, which is not helpful at all for anything. Calling a family that makes 150K / year UMC and then another that makes 600K/year UMC is beyond dumb given how misleading it is (all else about equal - values and all).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:23 PM
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You can think that but it's not much of an argument at all. You're just assuming that all ultra rich people are Zuckers. I've read some of their bios and they are all quite different, many leaning towards being traditional and old fashioned people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:21 PM
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OK well how are you so well versed with the richest 500 people in America? I bet you couldn't name more than 10 of them. And who cares about them? (They are mostly old conservative entrepreneurs - similar to the law and finance guys). They aren't all Sergey Brins and Zuckerbergs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:36 PM
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I mean you can set the bar as high as you want for UC. Top 1% earners (say like 300-400K/year) can be considered pretty damn special, but no, they are not donating money to pay for buildings. You're basically drawing the line at the top 0.1% income earners for whatever reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:35 PM
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That assumes the kids and grandkids don't end up a bunch of air brained nobodies... :) Who knows how these things turn out ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:29 PM
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Some of the most slutty people (in guys) I met at places like Penn State were definitely not UMC, more likely LMC or MC (or WC who got the idea that college will help them in life) at best people who I'd say were lucky to get into the school and not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:25 PM
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Maybe we're talking about different things but via my cousin who works at an elite law firm in NYC I've been around the top 5 to 1% earners or even richer (law, finance) just a little bit. They mostly vote republican and have fairly conservative views in private (they may pretend to be more "open" in public).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:22 PM
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Well without you specifying what counts (oral or not) what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:06 PM
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I mean yeah you can increase the sample size by like 3-4x by using more years of data. The line will be smoother but the direction won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:41 PM
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Who cares about the cause? The smart argument here is about correlation, not causation. No one is really trying to prove causation. If people are more likely to die in neighborhood X from gun fire on most days, you stay away from neighborhood X. What causes the gunfire is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:39 PM
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So what? The downward shaped line is what is important as it shows a general relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:28 PM
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Recent no and no.. I still like going out to get a drink and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:32 PM
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Thanks for sharing what you like, I guess? Some of it is still pretty open to interpretation (example: hourglass figure).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 05:01 PM
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The rowdy house parties have gotten boring and even trashy to me (I'm 25). I'll still go to them but only if I have a couple of close friends going as well. Drunken hook ups are really overrated too. The girls are either too drunk to put in any real effort, smell bad / have bad breath (booze or cig breath is gross) or will act sporadically and crazy due to drugs or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:42 PM
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Something something something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:34 PM
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Preferences have nothing to do with the comment of yours that I responded to with a question. You were either talking from the perspective of one woman (of many) and that would make sense, otherwise it would make no sense at all because it would imply that a 4/10 man is completely invisible to ALL women yet there is no way all women rate him 4/10 exactly (or 4/10 and below only).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:34 PM
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LOL what that implies there is NO variation between preferences between women at all. Which is dead wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:22 PM
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Correct. But you do not know what the market thinks about any specific individual. It is impossible to know exactly. Only a guess. Potentially a very wrong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:21 PM
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Yeah lol refreshing myself on this stuff these days for some grad school application tests... Average there is an arithmetic mean :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:18 PM
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SMV can be a completely made up subjective number here lol and that's exactly what it is for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:16 PM
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Problem is some dumb idiots use it to represent what they think all other men/people will rate someone else... like an final rating average from many ratings. I used numbers before and it's dumb as hell. I just use normal words now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:05 PM
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Well this is from the perspective of ONE individual woman, right? Because a 4 to one girl might be a 6 to another... so it's not like those guys who are slightly below average are going to be overlooked by all girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:04 PM
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Problem is every guy uses that HB scale differently so you I never know exactly what the dude is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:53 PM
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You're confused about what I care about (or my point) if anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:13 PM
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We're talking about LTRs here dude not casually fucking sluts... what kind of high tier male would consider a slut for an LTR lol??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 05:32 PM
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Why wouldn't a high tier man give a fuck? High tier men (whatever that even means) don't all follow YOUR definition or desires
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 02:36 PM
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I already posted the link to the study/article that looked at outcomes. Are you paying any attention to what I am telling you dude??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:23 PM
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That article talked about a specific study which did measure outcomes. Those numbers were all from the study. Naturally they made no assumptions about whether men or women drove the preferences - that will always be speculation. Well, except I provided a survey where men/women stated their preferences. So now we have one study + one survey. None of those numbers are speculation. How about now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:06 PM
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Where does any of this speak to what is the norm for women with high n counts like yours.. or higher? It's just you- you slept with a bunch of guys in college and maybe didn't even get too drunk to do it. So what? People have their own examples of what sluts did IRL and then there's hook up studies which outline some general trends surrounding casual sex (read: alcohol, parties, etc.). None of that is remotely made up. When people talk about the "porn fantasy" they are talking worst case scenari…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:05 PM
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Well if we assume male preferences are weak, what about then (they perhaps seem to be, at least anecdotally)? Does that math seem plausible then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 05:57 PM
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Well you post studies, are you good at math? I'm not 100% on this one. See that link I posted. If 49% (let's say 50% for simplicity) of women said they would date shorter men, and with totally random pairing 10% of couples should be female-taller, shouldn't the actual female-taller rate in the population be 5%? From here: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-common-is-it-for-a-man-to-be-shorter-than-his-partner/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:32 PM
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You're hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:13 PM
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Yeah I did trigger a lot of the closet sluts on here. That was indeed fun. Cheerio sweetie!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:12 PM
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OK self proclaimed expert of nothing, I'm going to go ahead and ignore your suggestion. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:10 PM
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Your intuition has YET to be WRONG hahahahaha yeah OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:08 PM
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"I'm right you're wrong because I said so" is another way to word your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:08 PM
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What range? Have fun with the cognitive dissonance caused by a simple survey of what people actually think. Have fun hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:05 PM
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Nice No True Scotsman there. "But but your evaluation doesn't add up to mine so therefore you haven't really thought about it." For a long time debater (supposedly) you should know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:04 PM
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I already posted a link for you that said women care more about their man's sexual history. Thousands of women said so, and these were women on a Sex Toy survey LOL. Imagine women who are a less sexual? YOUR evaluation of evo psych here isn't adding up and this obscure forum isn't some mecca of evo psych interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:02 PM
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That's weird, I saw another survey which suggested that up to 49% of women wouldn't mind and 7.5% of couples are actually female-taller. Numbers are totally off.. 4% vs 49%. And 7.5% actual vs. stated. UK vs US difference, maybe? Really inconsistent. Your first link is dead FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:00 PM
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I personally value it and I think other men should think about it more because it has broader implications on them and their relationships beyond "valuing purity for no real reason" so I post about it. Why not post about it? (That's the why not thing, not about whether I should value it or not).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:49 PM
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Me being new here doesn't mean I haven't read a thing or two. I posted here many years ago on another account for a bit and have read RP related things for years. Regarding evolution, I don't buy 100% of evo psych explanations for every single little thing I feel or think, although some make more sense than others. So no we do not "know" that, that is just a theory, not fact. In this case I don't buy it as much because this has to do with past promiscuity, not present. It's more about being sync…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:48 PM
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I think that muscularity and build (body type and bone thickness) are going to be much stronger predictors of protection ability and how strong a man looks. Tall beanpoles aren't a stereotype for no reason, and that's what many tall men are (unless they are fat, which isn't really strong looking either but perhaps better than beanpole). Done some reading in my years and I've tried to figure out attraction (out of curiosity and for the sake of maybe improving myself) and I don't think I've seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:32 PM
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Then what do you say about all of the people shrieking about the other topics on here? I think the big deal is the lack of understanding on WHY some people find this stuff gross (in their SO) or just acknowledging that MOST people would find that gross (in their SO).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:23 PM
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The point is this: The dumb people are still bottom of the barrel. They went from shitty grades in school (and getting in trouble all the time with the teachers/principal) to now having shit jobs, probably no higher education and possibly criminal records. I'd argue some of these people changed for the worse. I'm sure you can fill in the rest for the average and smart people given what I just said. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:21 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b0mz71/lying_is_an_important_part_of_sexual_strategy_i/eiftuo2/ So does this story with a handful of exaggerations to prove a point actually represent a fantasy? Remove the video, ass to mouth, maybe the threesome and it's actually exactly how many women rack up their count. If you want to get rid of the drug addiction, sure. It'll just be lighter drugs (cigs, pot and alcohol) that will almost certainly be involved - booze almost 100%. Most slut…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 05:13 AM
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How much of that 6ft+ only BS is just socially conditioned or rationalized crap, though? Like maybe her friends got a perversion for tall guys from their childhood idols who just happened to be tall as well as other things... and now these friends all want their BFs to be tall, too. The girl hears them obsessing over tall guys and to look like she "has it" also goes for tall guys to get their approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:57 AM
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Yeah the low and medium n count people all feel the same way too. All is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:44 AM
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Why not? I think that more sexually pure women (not pushing for virgins only or anything like that) are better long term bets for MOST men. I wouldn't try to convince a former player of that on the other hand. Also, the bigger argument I'm having is this whole "I honestly wouldn't care if I just randomly learned she was a total slut in the past" position. I just don't buy that for even a second if it comes out of nowhere years into a relationship (for either gender).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:43 AM
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The "manerisms, kindness, loyalty, or love" are the same on the surface because the person is trying to suppress their urges which would be viewed by others as less desirable. Not saying this is the case with all former sluts, but many. You read my story of a girl that started a shitstorm here lol? You would be OK with that? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b0mz71/lying_is_an_important_part_of_sexual_strategy_i/eiftuo2/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:41 AM
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What? We're not talking about me. We're talking about the specific idiots I knew in high school. They are still the same. Bottom barrel for their age group. Little growth of any kind (career, knowledge, etc.) On the other hand, some of the smarter kids continue to do well for themselves. They got educated, got good jobs, then better jobs, etc. The idiots are still idiots, even if a somewhat improved version relative to their 16 year old self... but that's a stupid comparison. They need to be com…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 11:43 PM
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No, one didn't just "have sex multiple times". You can do that with one partner. One of them had sex with a much larger than usual amount of men in situations where most women would not have sex with those men. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 11:41 PM
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Why? Some poor chump out there may well be on the receiving end of a very similar girl. When it comes to me, you're confusing the need (which I initially thought wasn't necessary) to explain my point with a slightly exaggerated example here to posters with supposed fixation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 11:37 PM
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But let's say you have a choice of women (perhaps you don't have this luxury?) .. do you not choose the one who has shown a long term interest in something (a committed monogamous relationship) and nothing that works against that vs. someone who has a past that's a bunch of casual sex and broken LTRs? All else is about equal. You now are in a position to choose who to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 08:03 PM
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I turn 26 this year and honestly most idiots from high school are still idiots at age 24-26 to me. Nothing changed in 10 years. What am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 08:00 PM
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Where did I give the hint that I don't hold myself to the same standards? Please show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:35 PM
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I'm entertaining the idea that this real person wife is a real former slut (a past he doesn't know) with all of the things this means about her and how he would react to it. Obviously it's not likely that it's true, but I think he's in denial when he says he wouldn't care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:35 PM
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I stand for certain things and have no problem expressing myself, regardless of how SOME people will perceive me. Not sure what your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:29 PM
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As I told the other poster I don't believe in ALL rp ideas or all versions of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:26 PM
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Anyone who is 100% red is a fool. Perhaps I should change my flair to "believes in various RP ideas." On that front I have other thoughts on life which I believe are "red pilled" but not necessarily the same as famous RP bloggers/writers. I don't know if that makes me purple here or red or whatever. I believe in other areas for gender splits, I believe in some AF/BB, 80/20, disadvantages of men in various areas of society and unfair treatment, the wall, and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:25 PM
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That's not the way I see it at all. It's their inherent personality that drives their decision making (like choice to slut around) and attachment style. This doesn't change. At best it's a facade to get what they want (read: mostly fake). A former promiscuous person (man or woman) can be "loyal, healthy and loving" but not to the same degree especially over longer periods of time as a non-promiscuous person, in general, with few exceptions. The best analogy I have is this: Who do you hire to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:22 PM
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I think that's generally true, but have no idea how that is related here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:14 PM
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Being concerned with liars is something everyone does. There is no gender split there that I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:13 PM
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What issues? By the numbers I'm not a high or low count male. Who are you to say that normal count men don't care about being duped or dating high n count sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:10 PM
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Yes, I do not believe in lying to get laid. It's the shit of super low value males. You're either hot enough to get some action without any BS, or you need to work on getting hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:09 PM
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I think you're being amoral in the worst place possible. Go be amoral with your boss - your paycheck is on the line, perhaps your life (well being). When all is said and done you go home to what? The person you actively lied to? Yeah that sounds not so great.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:02 PM
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Sexual amorality is one RP tenet I do not agree with, actually. Shit is just an excuse for some really bad behavior by people who are low value and need to repeat some BS to themselves to keep their sanity. There is a generally agreed upon "code" of morality and most people follow it. Not following it will have some really nasty consequences eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:55 PM
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Sure, but my point was two fold: 1) an above average n man w/ 10-15 partners will still be like "WTF" if and when he discovers his SO was with 30 partners long after they started dating 2) I'm trying to be empathetic to the idea that some men fear being lied to by a former slut that's trying to her hide slutty past because she knows that MOST men will be repulsed by it (aka a failure of likes attract likes... it's possible)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:52 PM
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Older people care less I agree with that for the most part and I'm sure it makes sense to you why that is the way it is (time = more opportunities to accumulate partners is one, so it is expected).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:49 PM
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How so? What about normal n men? Nothing to be ashamed about for them, If they care, they are insecure? All of the women get free passes on all their past decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:44 PM
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A guy could ask you straight up about your n-count. You could then lie. Then when he meets your friends he can throw some related questions about past relationships at them. Then before you know it, he's on to you because your stories don't get corroborated. How are you going to manage getting everyone to lie all the same and tell the same story about you? Or convince them to lie at all? Good luck with that shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:43 PM
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I've heard all kinds of things too. Some of it came from messed up women that indeed you shouldn't trust. It sounds like you know a couple that fit the bill perfectly. Be careful too, brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:33 PM
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Well then he's more likely to TRULY not care, I can say that. Of course maybe he'd prefer a non-slutty woman, but has to settle for a slut. In that case, sucks for him, but he'd never admit it for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:25 PM
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Your personal experience doesn't change facts about people at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:22 PM
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I posted a link showing people care, women especially. Why did you feel the need to respond and tell us you're an exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:00 PM
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Oh, evolutionary level you say? In that case both genders would still be highly averse to past promiscuity, all for the sake of their offspring. (Men don't want to take care of another man's kids, women don't want the guy to run off to other women .. both traits situations related to promiscuous people). I put a moderate amount of stock in that. Practical things are better for me. That simple Google search and that survey tells you that women care way more about who their man was fucking before.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:54 PM
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How did you get cuckoldry involved here lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:39 PM
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Your real world experience probably doesn't jive because you are nothing like most women. I bet somewhere in your past was: high promiscuity, drugs/substance use (hint: not beer/wine/liquor) and a totally "give no fucks" approach to life. You probably don't want kids, you're probably atheist. All largely minority and totally related things. How many did I get right out of 5? You're just projecting your "experience" on all other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:38 PM
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Women are even worse for this, just FYI. They care more. https://www.bustle.com/articles/97433-more-women-than-men-care-about-a-new-partners-sexual-history-says-new-study-and-over
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:19 PM
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hell, a LOT??? of them lie to themselves and think ridiculous shit like "well that guy didn't count because i wasn't in love with him" Yeah buddy I think that's taking it a bit too far. Why do people here pretend like they can read minds? Or take some pure bullshit bait on the internet and translate it to "all women." The rest I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:15 PM
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What is so insecure about wanting to know about someone with a past like that? Explain in detail for us all. I bet you can't because you're just a cheap troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:04 PM
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Some girls have volunteered that information to me, actually. I strongly avoid dating women outside my social circle because they become total wild cards who can hide their past more easily. But yeah, if I'm totally lost I'd ask point blank. HOW she answers will actually reveal quite a lot. I have nothing to hide on that topic, so I expect neither will she. Not the point here at all, though! I can buy that some of the guys here that truly don't care are high n count themselves. Moderate count gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:50 PM
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There are two groups to be clear: 1) low attractiveness (in the general sense) young men who do not have blatant personality issues who were ignorant in the past but can fix themselves (these guys should be no problem) 2) low attractiveness (in the general sense) men who have personality disorders and other mental problems (these guys are goners - at best they'll have to settle for women with similar problems IMO) That's all I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:39 PM
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Many are yes, why do you ask? Lots of them are permanently damaged goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:34 PM
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You need to wake up. Not saying your SO is #2, but most guys would be like OMG WTF :O :O is they learned she was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:32 PM
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It would definitely bother me big time if I thought my SO was paragraph 1 but was actually paragraph 2. It would bother me even more if she didn't bring up any of that stuff from paragraph 2. It would be like I'm dating a completely different person, and people just don't change THAT much from being 18-20 to 26-30, unless it's some facade bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:30 PM
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So there is this hypothetical dude out there and he's got his girl and he's happy. He think she had a few BFs in college and maybe high school. Then she dated a guy after that and they broke up... and now he met her and things are so great. He is head over heels and she talks about having children in the future. In fact the girl here had quite a different past. She started having sex in middle school and by age 15 had already had several STDs, fortunately curable. She felt like she would miss ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:25 PM
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I'll give it a shot. I've just spent more time at the off price and discounts stores than before :| Most of that stuff still sucks, I went into a Zegna pretending to be some high roller and goddamn the suits are like silky smooth. And fit almost perfectly without alterations. Fuck the $2500+ price tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:13 PM
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I never said anything about anyone you dated. I said that I want to see the look on your face SHOULD your SO or w/e tell you about her past, and that past turned out way more promiscuous than you thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:13 PM
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You're in a loving, stable relationship with someone you don't really know. That's a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:12 PM
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I would love to see the look on your face when you find out she was WAY more promiscuous before than you ever thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:38 PM
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Ha ha ha? That's hilarious thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:36 PM
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And where do the lies end? At what point does all of that nasty shit surface and combust into one gigantic fireball along with the joke of a "relationship" that was build out of nothing but bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:35 PM
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The shit that guys pass for "good dressing" here is laughable. My world was turned upside down a few years ago when I took my first trip to Europe with my cousin. I just wish I made more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:15 PM
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Youtube is the last place I'd use for evidence of anything, given that anything remotely unflattering will never make it on there unless it's some cheap PR stunt to make it seem like you are more transparent than you really are. Shitbag PUA scammers are a good example that have also been readily exposed. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt of not being a general dumbass or obnoxious asshole IRL. His looks won't save him in that case, unless the women are totally desperate losers or equally d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 02:06 PM
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There are a lot of reasons why a lot of men find sluts gross, but that's separate from there being no respect for them (because it's easy for them to have sex - they just say "yes" to whoever offers) and that's separate from why men don't want them for a LTR. And even if someone finds sex genuinely fun does that mean they are free from judgment? And if slutty people are perfectly cool with their sluttiness (men and women both) do you think that slutty couples are open about their slutty past?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:57 AM
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Maybe I am misunderstood you, but I thought you were saying that your personal experiences make for good reason to question what method studies used. I think that's 99.9% bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:59 PM
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What the hell is this exaggerated straw man BS loool??? I have no clue what the other TRP shithole sub dwellers do because I haven't taken the sub seriously in years. I have only followed some RP authors directly. Bye?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:50 PM
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Yeah the odds of your personal experience qualifying anything in an otherwise well done study are pretty slim. Just wishful thinking to think you have some power to dismiss large amounts of information which you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:46 PM
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We hate liars, basically like anyone else. In this case, we are talking about specific liars. We don't like the fact that we can still get screwed over even if we try to avoid it. We keep bringing it up because people keep asking us about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:45 PM
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Insecurity or not both men and women are gonna feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:16 PM
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Sluts have personalities which make them for inferior partners esp. for raising families. Impulsive, low FTO, lower conscientiousness and agreeableness, potentially lower self esteem / validation seekers, more likely to have been drug users, etc. It's a pretty nasty list.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 05:50 PM
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Many of us don't want closet sluts who are masquerading as reformed great potential mother material. We just don't think people change that much. Whatever made sluts sluts... isn't going away over the course of a woman's life. Pretending like two comparably attractive women of the same age, but one with n=3 and the other n=30 don't have blatantly obvious differences in personality is beyond dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 04:17 PM
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Look at the average age when women get married. It's around 28-29. Yeah man but they gotta meet their spouse, date and then at the end of that get married. That takes about 4 years as data shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 04:08 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:51 PM
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Nice graphs, where is the original source?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:25 PM
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They are doing all of that for sex. Next level chump moves. Where did you get the idea it was for anything more?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:22 PM
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The point is that this guy won't look like this on a normal day or night out. It's like his marketing/job. The photos are a bad example of what women will find very attractive, if that's what you mean. On the other hand, if he just didn't pose, have a pump and put on some clothes and was in a candid shot, he would be quite attractive to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:17 PM
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Men can be more confident in their ability to get a partner later in life than women... if they choose to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 02:38 PM
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Well for what it's worth I do think that that dad > mom for "coaching" a son, but mom is better than nothing. Why would you assume his peers know any better? They could the the dorkos. Grown ups > kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 02:33 PM
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There are some things that don't go out of style, that is the stuff that can be coached it's not all some "the in thing" non sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 01:29 PM
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These posed shots are an exaggeration of what he looks like though. It's all show: angles, lighting and pump. Assuming this guy isn't a weirdo or asshole he'll do pretty damn well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 01:12 PM
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LOL if you think that womEn will consider the # of friends over a guy's looks, personality and work status for how attractive he is. Just LOL. Seriously, and what kind of socially and mentally stunted woman judges a guy's social status by how many friends he has? So dumb. I mean I've heard some girls say they would rather a guy have just a few close friends than a ton of "friends" because they want to be able to actually spend time with him. It almost makes too much sense ya know? You likely don…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 01:02 PM
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Social standing and having tons of friends aren't the same thing my man A low level contractor with 20 drinking buddies has no real social standing You think a guy who moved to SF from Kansas to work at big name tech company who has little to no friends in the new city has no social standing? He's got that any plenty more you gotta get outta this BS that some people here talk about fake school level social standing and think about how actual grown ups work man I know guys without that kind of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:34 AM
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Attractive really doesn't mean as much as what HE wants and what kind of personality he has. Some people prefer very small social circles and are more introverted and that'll be great with other intro girls Like what if the dude moved across the country for a job and he's 30? You think all life is like college with drinkin buddies n shit? Do Facebook old friends count?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:24 AM
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Not everyone is around friends 24/7 man people move around the world to study and work and stuff and most people have less friends as they get older it really depends
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:13 AM
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Shouldn't you be black flair wtf is this bs ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:03 AM
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Ok so what's the deal, then? Just cause some dude isn't always with a group of people you just assume the worst? Sounds like the guy should be happy he's avoiding the assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 08:16 PM
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This seems to be the requirement when every attempt is a long shot though. Shit is way less common with social circle dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 05:13 PM
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You can't tell a loner just by looking at them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:20 PM
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Well it's definitely the kind of relationships I'd want to have and I'm tryin not to give up lookin
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 02:38 PM
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Well what's so difficult about sexual compatibility this isn't really somethin I've heard anyone else bring up when they talk about dating people. Are ya weird somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 02:23 PM
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I keep hearing those IUDs have very low failure rates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 09:26 PM
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Why you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 09:13 PM
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So what exactly is a adult male societal rebel to ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:47 PM
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lol it's obviously one of the dumbest lines ever that keeps being said by the PUAs and RPers. Them fish are being killed but ladies not so much so it's fuckin dumb as hell. You're right the women do want to be caught (find an attractive high value guy who will keep her) but the PUA and Terps are dumb as all hell they want the women to like them for who they are which is creepy low value men (yeah right who likes that?) so they will say the women give bad advice (and sure some women do, but many …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:13 PM
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