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How is choosing to select those men out of one’s own dating pool discrimination?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:10 AM
1

Explain the difference, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:08 AM
-1

How aren’t you? Seems that is precisely what is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:07 AM
1

None of these are even close to the biggest negative consequences of promiscuity Y’all only care when it starts affecting you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:17 PM
0

It’s always the one contributing way less who says it’s a partnership, not a transaction. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:38 PM
1

Lmao. “Discrimination” is a non-starter where relationships are concerned. Yes, relationships between two adults require a somewhat equal contribution and match for happiness to result. A woman is not a workplace. Nobody is required to subsidize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:37 PM
3

It’s not shallow, though. Some of the traits of certain neurodivergent conditions make it very difficult to be a good partner, especially to a neurotypical person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:43 PM
1

When are people going to get over paying for dates? Marriage is not on the horizon if we’re still discussing that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:41 PM
2

Hahah. Men who think like this end up abusing autistic women. Autistic women don’t experience all that much more relationship success than do the men, AND they are frequently mistreated/abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:40 PM
3

Not really, no. I don’t believe in forcing people or harming living individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:37 PM

Not many. I never said there would be handouts. Plus, competence doesn’t always refer to employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:58 AM

Competence is. If you cannot do something as rote as operating a vehicle, there are 100% guaranteed serious downstream issues to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:35 AM
3

This comment was clear, just broad. I’ve been clear in other comments as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:32 AM
2

If they’re not practicing exposure therapy, then no, that wouldn’t be adequate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:51 AM
10

Correct. You should, instead, go to therapy and consider exposure in order to help yourself move past this issue. If you live in the United States, ~no woman is going to particularly enjoy the fact you have no car and cannot drive, unless perhaps you live in Manhattan. “Bringing attention to it” = expecting to guilt others into pretending they feel a different way so that one feels better about themselves what I just described = Action What are you hoping to achieve by posing this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:50 AM
6

It is the reason. All of the other arguments are padding to insulate hurt ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:47 AM
6

Yes, that is the expectation. Men can meet it or they can’t. Complaining about their station does nothing to change it, though, and nobody is going to change their outlook (which is a very common one btw) simply because men find it unfair. The long and short is if you’re not competitive in a competitive market and can’t deliver, you’ll be selected out. People who aren’t well liked by women are generally bad bets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:46 AM
9

Yep, and nothing is changing that, unless men select specifically for competence when locating a lifelong partner. They will complain about something else then tho—we are already seeing this with men who are claiming women are “stealing their jobs” and “infiltrating the workforce.” You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:43 AM
-2

It doesn’t have anything to do with pressure. You’re either capable or you’re not, and if you’re not, somebody made a mistake somewhere in your genetic line.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:42 AM

This is actually men’s fault for not prioritizing traits they want in the mothers of their eventual children. Stop prioritizing only looks, start caring more about personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:41 AM
3

Yes, it is. These are not good genes to reproduce with from a very shrewd standpoint: I have severe anxiety, depression, and OCD, all of which have limited my ability to learn how to drive and purchase a car. You need to accept that you have limitations and find someone understanding of them. Society cannot reasonably bend around this to accommodate. Women, historically, are better suited to less strenuous working conditions, doing more at home (gardening, cooking, socializing), and also are typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:38 AM
6

Yes. They always wanna come up with some crazy reason. Nope, it’s the one directly in front of your face 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:29 AM
3

Yeah, this is correct. It’s not changing. It’s a result of many years of evolution and is actually a positive thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:29 AM
2

the reality is talking about these situations wrt men is an elaborate guise to cover up the extent of their hatred they don’t actually care about these things, they just want permission to be terrible because “oh look!! this happens to men in microscopically negligent numbers too!!” please
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:12 AM
4

Ok. Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:08 AM
3

No it doesn’t. I am pro-choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:24 AM
2

It’s not being forced, though, because you knew it was a risk and that supporting a child you helped create is a social and legal expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:15 AM
4

It wasn’t forced upon him, though, because presumably he had an IQ above room temp and was aware that having unprotected sex could result in a child. “Unwanted” is not equal to “force,” it means you don’t like the outcome of something you willingly and voluntarily participated in. The woman’s responsibility in her own case, if she wants the baby, is to gestate, give birth, and do her part by either parenting or helping support financially. Man needs to do so as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:01 AM
9

Nobody is asking that. We already know that you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:59 AM
4

Nope. She wouldn’t have gotten pregnant without your penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:57 AM
6

Why would I? The majority of men who talk about these things act like you, and you have a disturbing preoccupation with the concept of men being allowed to legally rape women. Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:56 AM
3

It’s unrelated. You also seem to be obsessed with rape. What a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:55 AM
2

It’s fantasy. I don’t care about them either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:54 AM
0

This is completely unrelated to the discussion, champ. I’m not getting anywhere bartering with your persecution fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:52 AM
3

neck deep in persecution fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:52 AM
4

They hate women, that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:50 AM
2

You are too ideologically captured to have productive conversations with. Enjoy your Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:50 AM
7

No, it can’t, actually. The scenario you’re describing involves subjugation. The one I am describing does not. You don’t get to blame another consenting party for an outcome you knew was a risk. Both are to blame, but only one can gestate and thus has agency over her own body at that point. Guess maybe the guy should have enacted similar agency by wearing a condom, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:46 AM
5

Wrapping your own penis up and taking care of your own ejaculate is your responsibility, not the woman’s whom you are sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:44 AM
6

Whose idea is it to have unprotected sex 90%+ of the time? I’ll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:43 AM
5

No, all risks. You are not endangered by another person’s pregnancy. You cannot gestate. You may be held part responsible for the resulting child, but that’s a different conversation. If you stick your penis inside a woman and ejaculate, and a child results from the pregnancy, it is your child as well, not just hers. Both people created that situation, but only one can make decisions about the pregnancy itself, because only one can gestate. What do you mean, that they “otherwise wouldn’t have?” …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:42 AM

No
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:35 AM
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It actually doesn’t, because men cannot gestate. That’s what I mean when I say “biology isn’t fair.” Correct, you do not get as much of a say in the decisions, because you a) cannot carry a child and thus evade all risks associated, b) chose to sleep with someone else knowing it could result in a child, and c) usually don’t end up the custodial parent. Women suffer consequences automatically for being pregnant. One of those consequences is being pregnant. Wrap it up or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:31 AM
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Women do face consequences. Abortions and giving birth are far riskier consequences to face than having to pay chump change every month. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:26 AM
2

Doesn’t matter. You can’t gestate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:25 AM
2

They’re not doing that where you’re concerned, I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:56 AM
4

Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:20 AM
22

Completely insane
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:05 AM
18

Let’s just say if someone ever decided to pull the rug out from under me with a child, they would never, ever see said child, ever again. You don’t get to rescind your parental rights and then still want to be “involved.” Secondly, no. Biology’s not fair, life’s not fair. Women risk a lot being pregnant and we have to do it, not you. That means we have more of a say. Paying a few hundred bucks a month is not the same as, literally, risking your life to deliver a child and spending all your time …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:05 AM
2

Women are certainly the gatekeepers of sex as well. Not sure how you’d refute that. We are the prize, not men, and that’s why we do most of the rejecting. These guys all have bad social skills and come on way too strong and then say they don’t know what’s going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:53 PM
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We do, we just don’t care. Women are the gatekeepers of sex for a reason. I think you are mistaking a lack of caring for a lack of knowledge. also, no, an above-average guy with above-average social skills is not going to struggle. Not sure who told you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:32 PM
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Essentially the Muslim principle which says they have an obligation to deceive outsiders in order to preserve the image of their religion and to successfully spread it all over the globe. The literal goal of Islam is complete control over the world. Importing them and their ideals is never a good idea for Western countries, ever, unless they publicly renounce their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:21 PM
4

Look up Taqiyya and then tell me most Muslim men, especially the ones openly advocating for the subjugation of women, don’t support Sharia
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:14 PM
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It is. Go on over to Twitter if you want to see how much this has exploded. Reddit is more heavily moderated and so people can’t be as transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:52 PM
3

It’s not a small minority lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:38 PM
1

Nope. It appears to me that she wants to actually like the person she’s with, which is completely dissimilar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:34 PM
2

No. If you become attracted over time, that's different, but the other things can't "make up for" a complete lack of attraction. Not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:44 AM
1

“We all know that the average man struggles to attract women these days.” Nope. Problem #1 here is this mindset. Average men are not struggling. Below-average men (either in terms of looks, accomplishments or social aptitude, usually the latter) are struggling, just as they always have. They, while more willing to commit to trap a partner, still don’t by default treat women better. In fact, sometimes they will treat women worse! All men who can get casual sex are amenable to it. Women are the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:01 PM
1

0/10
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:07 AM
1

Correct. Most men very naturally have rock bottom standards in terms of what they will accept, but not in terms of what they expect. This is taken out on the women they date who meet their standards for sex, but not for their fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:36 PM
0

Complimenting others doesn’t indicate a lack of self respect. Good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:35 PM
-1

You think people have to put in effort and be try-hards to earn compliments? You know, I might try dating more masculine women, if I were you. it sounds like you want to be the one complimented and pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:04 PM
0

It’s not, though. If it were about your own self-respect, you’d do this alone without a second thought and not try to rope other people into this unnatural weirdness. Withholding affection from women because you disdain that they get attention is very strange and resentful behavior. Not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:59 PM
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I don’t. I’m plenty disciplined. What you’re suggesting is unnatural and unrealistic—men like this simply want women to stop knowing when they’re attractive so they are easier to denigrate and manipulate. Much easier for average men if beautiful women are flying blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:30 PM
0

What does “earning it” mean? She has to compliment you first? Did you earn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:29 PM
-3

Young men aren’t going to stop hitting on women just because your efforts failed. Weird form of intrasexual competition you’re trying to institute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:28 PM
2

Things need to be corrected because women want things they can’t provide. Men absolutely despise women whose standards they cannot meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:10 AM
2

Yep. 0 accountability from this cohort, but women are the eternal victims. Sure. Super victimy to proactively pursue what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:07 AM
0

This is cope. Sorry. You cannot force other people to see things in you that only you and maybe your mother see. If you have something of value, you learn how to communicate that. Wanting the most you can get doesn’t make you a bad person—wanting the most you can get via forcing others to artificially conform to the baselines and standards you believe are appropriate does. Why on earth would a woman want a socially inept man? It is evolutionarily sound to be disgusted by that. You also cannot “s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:02 AM
1

Then there’s no problem, is there!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:52 AM
0

Whatever you need to tell yourself. Go be gay if you think men are more attractive than women, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:27 AM
2

It’s not. I don’t hate sex. Not sure where you picked that up. There’s nothing more to discuss if you think prostitutes enjoy having sex with men who have to pay them to manufacture consent. Presumably, this woman wants to be with a man she actually likes who is fine with her lifestyle demands. Different scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:04 AM
0

She clearly means “cannot afford to pay for the luxuries I am used to having in life.” Not quite prostitution. That would be a man buying a woman for his own satisfaction. Prostitution is okay for men because they benefit. What she’s talking about is a big ol problem because unwanted sex isn’t guaranteed. Let’s not equate apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:11 AM
0

Most prostitutes aren’t very expensive and don’t lead particularly luxurious lives. You’re using a term you know is profoundly derogatory to insult women above your station because you are also plenty aware you can’t ascend so far. It’s not accurate and it reeks of insecurity. Women are not prostitutes or demons for having standards you cannot satisfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:25 AM
-5

the answer is simple: men are much less aware of their shortcomings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 01:58 AM
3

They work out a very small percentage of the time. Most of the time it’s fantastical, impractical BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 09:26 PM
2

Lmao. No, you’re correct, I can’t prove that. It’s too bad that isn’t what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:21 PM
4

This is very disingenuous. You can’t really fight your enemies if you blithely misunderstand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:31 PM
1

It’s quite immaterial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:38 AM
1

Most women want to be taken care of. It’s not a problem for most of them if they are moderately infantilized and pampered. It’s a big problem for women if their male partner wants to be babygirl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:26 AM
1

A very sizable minority, even within your age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:48 PM
1

there is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:33 PM
1

Not really. It doesn’t necessarily reflect my opinion. You incorrectly inferred that I agreed with this perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:29 AM
1

It’s not an issue conversely. Men and women aren’t looking for the same things in a partner, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:28 AM
1

You can take the targeted eyerolls elsewhere. I guarantee I don’t think whatever you’re trying to project.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:23 AM
1

Sure. I don’t see what that has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:23 AM
1

I mean, I don’t know who you’re arguing with. I didn’t say anything about the general accuracy of that perception, just that it’s the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:22 AM
2

The reason is that right wing women see left wing men as feminine babies w/no practical skills. I could explain it in nicer terms, but.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:02 PM
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Respectfully, no. I was trying to be nice about it, but it’s irrelevant to you because you are male and thus will never have to deal with serious consequences if you choose not to, besides maybe child support. This is poor theory of mind in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:55 AM
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Respectfully, no. Pregnancy and sex are not rare occurrences only “talking heads on television” deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:48 PM
2

No it isn’t. “Ableism” usually means you’re being excluded or prevented from something that is considered a natural human right. This is not that. Being denied access to another PERSON is unfair, sure, but justly so. Autism does not entitle you to a bridging of gaps or a leg up. You either figure it out or don’t. The fact that certain personality traits are unattractive to women as a whole is evolution in action, not women being meanies to exclude you. Imagine, for instance, raising a child with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:01 PM

No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:52 AM
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Not a guarantee they’re a virgin for values reasons. My husband was a virgin when we met and it honestly caused a lot of problems. We worked through it, but it’s not always good and it doesn’t mean they’ll treat you better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:39 AM
2

Revealed preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:29 PM
0

Nature doesn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:43 PM
4

Sure: Being too forward about sex Becoming easily offended Not being funny Not being stylish or well groomed Talking about himself, rather than asking her questions Expecting women to pay for themselves on the first date/any early meeting Becoming too clingy and intense too early Talking obsessively about their own interests without interruption Detailing grievances with women as a whole Not being observant of body language Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:31 PM

The problem is that most of these guys are autistic and can’t tell what a personality flaw is. They cannot understand when they themselves are doing unattractive things that repel women, so they must rely on “well, I’m not a 9 and I’m 5’8, so women hate me!” Nope, you’re just unaware of yourself and don’t understand women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:28 PM
-1

Not really. All varieties of straight people have it easiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 12:05 AM
-4

You stand on this “with men?” Girl, this entire post is a misinterpretation of what’s actually difficult and you are identifying with the wrong people. You have no clue, it seems, how hard it is to impress a woman as another woman. It’s extremely easy in comparison to do that as a man. So no, we don’t “stand with men.” You should instead be telling them how easy it is and how hard they’re failing. Ugh nevermind you’re polyamorous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 12:05 AM
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they don’t. The fact that they continue to find suitors does not make those suitors forced, nor does it make the women entitled. If you’re bagging people with your existing standards, it means they aren’t too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:25 PM

Very simple solution: don’t date more experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:36 AM
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It’s difficult, but it’s not impossible. With that said, no woman is putting out an AI deepfake of her getting raped. A man would do that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:25 AM
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Yes, they can. Is your head underground? AI deepfakes have gotten so good that normal people cannot tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:18 AM
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I don’t structure my life around near statistical impossibilities. I don’t think Nassim Taleb has a fulfilling life, for example. Proactive measures are don’t stick your dick in the type of dumb crazy who would falsely accuse you of rape, and always wear a condom. Requesting to film or record women having sex with you is not the answer. If you still somehow think it is, you need to see a therapist about a potential OCD diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:17 AM
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No it isn’t. This is an insane level of paranoia about things that will not happen. If you aren’t rich or famous, almost none of these potentialities apply to you in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:03 AM
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I don’t think so, but it’s a lot easier to sell if it’s common practice. What you risk here is a) finding out your wife is a lying bitch after your baby’s already born (which is typically inevitable anyhow) or b) completely alienating your trustworthy wife whose baby is certainly yours (something that would also become evident over time). The baby’s already born at that point. I would agree to a PT, but he’d feel really stupid when the results came back and it was his kid. That’s all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:58 PM
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This indicates an extremely unhealthy degree of paranoia and/or the desire for indefinite leverage over people you aren’t even necessarily in romantic relationships with. The blackmail by men if this were the norm would be insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:56 PM
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You are completely beyond help if you don’t understand why women don’t want men having documented, visual proof of sexual encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:55 PM
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Proof of paternity is not a dealbreaker. The other two are categorically different and indicate an unusual degree of paranoia and/or future stinginess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:54 PM
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Ain’t no way. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:37 PM
0

There is no always, ever. Women are individual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:18 AM
2

I mean, in a large portion of cases, yes. That’s demonstrably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:16 PM
0

Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:44 AM
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Do everything I say, don’t have any hobbies, be at my beck and call, clean the whole house, wipe my ass, cook my food, and pay 50% of bills. That is what men mean when they say in a forthright manner they want a “traditional” wife. They’ll resent being providers a few months in. They want mothers, not wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:43 AM
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It does make the men look bad. Exceptionally. (If bad means incompetent and unsuccessful) Also, you aren’t getting that, and neither are any other men from your cohort. It’s a pipe dream and you’ll end up selected out of the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:40 AM
2

An entire group is itself a generalization. The issues are incorrect generalizations, not correct ones. Unfortunately, no matter how much we’d like, things that we prefer and enjoy do not always emulate anything close to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:57 AM
1

No, because I’m talking about a demographic, not a person. The former can be generalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:00 AM
1

You don’t have any clue who I am, so it’s a bit presumptuous to assume I have anything outstanding to take responsibility for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:38 PM
-1

It becomes misogyny when you don’t take responsibility for the same things, and men often don’t. Just worry about yourself. There’s plenty to clean up on your side of the street, I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:46 PM
2

You don’t get an “option” if the kid is biologically yours. Paternity testing is whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:28 AM
5

Most quality women aren't fucking on the first date. Minority percentages on the second date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:14 AM
3

If you stop trying, your wife is going to lose interest. That's all it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:02 AM
2

Depends when it is and what it’s about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:18 PM
2

You aren’t buying the person in the instance of drugs. They aren’t comparable situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:27 PM
2

Sure you did. “It is impossible to win the personality lottery.” Right. You have to be a) born with a generally acceptable one; b) willing and able to change it to the extent you experience more success; c) willing to date women who can accept your lack of generally acceptable personality traits. There is no who gets what or whom involved. That isn’t how dating works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:26 PM
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I don’t see what fairness has to do with anything. Dating and marriage are an inherently unfair selection process. Getting picked is part of winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:03 PM
3

she doesn’t enjoy her job. The boundary is always violated. If she wanted to have sex with you, she wouldn’t require payment. The money is what she wants. It’s not hard stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:51 PM
0

This comment is absolutely hilarious. Do you know what the RF in TERF stands for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:43 PM
2

Nope. Not in any universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:38 PM
4

It’s not an apt analogy, because a woman is a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:38 PM
2

Or it is true, and denying it only delays resolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:38 PM
3

Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:42 AM

I’m on board with this logic until men start trying to make this women’s problem to solve, which is inevitably where this conversation always goes. They don’t usually want to be the ones changing anything. If they change, sometimes they’re more successful superficially, but hold onto a lot of resentment for a long time—sometimes forever. Both men and women need to stop blaming each other for how nature is. They also each need to stop blaming individuals for larger trends, and when dating, look f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:26 AM
7

Men would be with perfect 10s at every opportunity. What is the point of comments like these?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:33 AM
5

No, they aren’t. Much more rational than many posts and comments I see in here. Being this dismissive will not be conducive to understanding female grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:32 AM
2

Who is “you?” There aren’t many radfems hanging around this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:39 AM
5

I have, but it’s not most of them. You’re referring to college girls who are casual feminists. Their opinions are only slightly more informed than yours are. Sex work would not exist without “incels.” Women are not buying sex. Men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:44 AM
1

You’re being exploited because women don’t like you? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:42 AM
2

No, they don’t. Where’s the proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:42 AM
4

Feminists don’t push it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:41 AM
1

You aren’t being exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:40 AM
8

Yes they do, lol. They just don’t do it in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:27 PM
4

What do you think radical feminism is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:21 PM
4

No. Women are not goods like drugs. Not even close to the same thing. Stop being intentionally obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:19 PM
8

Reddit is a dumpster fire full of midwits with no real knowledge, so that’s no surprise. Radical feminism (not meaning radical as in most extreme, it has a very specific meaning) is the largest branch of feminism in opposition to sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:17 PM
7

Not really. Autism is a social impairment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:16 PM
4

Have you considered why that might be? 75% of sex workers end up with PTSD. Lying about conditions is part of the way they cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:15 PM
7

They are absolutely so much better. Absolutely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:15 PM
3

You misunderstand. I am not talking about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:14 PM
2

You don’t even know what a radfem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:14 PM
5

Probably a reference to autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:12 PM
12

For good reasons. Pretending not to understand why women have grievances will push them away further.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:05 PM
27

Definitely not. Incels caused incels to become incels. Women having choices may have contributed to your lack of success, but any success you would have had otherwise would have been false and manufactured. Learn more about the different types of feminism. You really don’t know enough about it to be making these critiques. Plenty of feminists don’t support sex work—incels do, though. Sex work does not exist without male desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:04 PM

Men think relationships are about sex and looks because that’s all they care about. I think having a compelling personality can contribute to SMV, but it’s one part of the whole. Men also have a tough time multitasking and downstream of that, seem to be unable to hold multiple things in their heads about dating at once. I don’t know if you’re right or wrong, but being unpleasant will not work if you’re autistic and average-looking (likely most of the men in this sub).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:29 AM
1

I don’t think they necessarily do it intentionally all the time, but sometimes. I think it’s a mostly unconscious process.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:34 PM
7

Men cheat a little more, but making this about cheating misses the point of the comment. It’s not really about cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:40 PM
-2

Life’s not fair. The sooner you learn that, especially with respect to dating (which is inherently ruthless and unfair), the easier you’ll get along.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:43 PM
0

Yes, right. Three things: Why should I care about shitty women? Seems like that’s your problem. Why should I take accountability for the entire demographic of women you’re complaining about? I don’t even belong to it. That’s not my responsibility. Stop dating women you don’t really, really like. That will solve most of this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:29 PM
3

Let’s be friends
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:23 PM
1

It depends. If he’s a conservative who believes in the subjugation of women, no. If he’s anti-immigration and pro-merit, sure. If he’s a liberal who doesn’t shower and likes polyamory, no. If he’s a liberal who makes good money and doesn’t have a completely deranged, removed-from-reality perspective, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:22 PM
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For men it isn’t an active process. I think they are slaves to their instincts and hardly know what’s going on. This actually makes it worse, because sometimes they end up staying with the placeholder and wasting her time indefinitely instead of letting her go to be with someone who may actually appreciate her. I’ve only seen women do that when their boyfriends or husbands are actively disappointing. Typically they mask during the courting stage to ensnare women and drop it once they feel secure…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:15 PM
2

I’m not familiar with all the unsuccessful-redpillerisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:56 PM
9

“Let’s say you’re a young, average woman.” Well, herein lies the problem. I am not average and cannot explain the process to you from that standpoint, but generally, women are not interested in “good enough.” That’s a male thing. The male thing is typically to bag someone for a “serious” relationship who is good enough, wait until the perfect one comes along, then dump the placeholder. Women will not do that as often—typically, they will reject you outright and let you on your merry way. The pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:05 PM
4

I did complain when men wanted only sex, because they weren’t worth my time and weren’t what I was looking for. Men who act like this write their own stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:14 AM
3

Well, yes, expecting unconditional love is unrealistic and thus that point is not exactly worth entertaining as a first principle. You’re theoretically looking for a wife, not a second mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:16 AM
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I don’t think so. Women contribute in other ways. Men don’t, thus women are looking, in some cases, exclusively for financial security. That’s the point of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:28 AM
5

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think men’s stinginess and “quotas” of sorts leads to a more similar dating orientation than is natural on women’s part, because affection, attention, and other things that cost $0 are not even freely being given—leading to a sense of insecurity about things that do cost money. If he can’t even be nice/if all he wants is sex, how can he be relied upon for support? Women’s desire for security is very much an evolutionary function of being the physically weaker sex an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:01 AM
5

No. This is a response to male commodification.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:43 AM
3

That isn’t narcissistic personality disorder. Everyone has narcissistic traits. Also, again, no. Men are less empathetic and are more arrogant/grandiose than women on average. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/01/28/in-u-s-women-more-likely-than-men-to-report-feeling-empathy-for-those-suffering/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6002876/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5110041/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:45 PM
2

Um, no. I don’t think you’re referring to narcissism. Sounds like you might be referring to histrionic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:33 PM
0

No, that isn’t true. Men are ~40% more likely to be narcissists by the clinical definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:11 PM

lol, ok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:43 PM
3

No, I didn’t say that. I said men are more likely to belong to outlier categories in every area. This includes personality disorders. Men are ~40% more likely to be narcissists in the clinical sense (of having a personality disorder). Even if every woman who has been misdiagnosed or missed entirely suddenly had the correct diagnosis of NPD, they would still not outnumber the men. Characteristics falling within NPD are historically personality traits belonging more commonly to men, even as indivi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:15 AM
4

I think you’re a bit confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:04 AM
-1

Lol. Doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:43 AM
8

This is all a bunch of conjecture. Men are frequently measured to be more narcissistic and more antisocial than women. There’s no getting around it. Part of this is men not understanding the role genetics play: after all, men are far more likely to end up with extreme outlier traits (i.e. mental retardation, autism, extreme intelligence, crazy congenital abnormalities); among them are personality disorders. The only cluster B personality disorder where men are outnumbered by women is borderline …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:42 AM

You’re missing the point, which is that of course people don’t change when they’re told to. They change when they are inspired to, which is much less of a conscious, concerted effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:36 PM

Can you explain how these things are related to civilizational collapse?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:37 PM
8

Moderate conservatism doesn’t mean the effects of the sexual revolution go away. It means that the effects of the sexual revolution stay put because people date around, nobody is actually religious anymore, and birth control keeps abstinence from being a social priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:44 AM
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Society is already reverting to moderate conservatism. Moderate being the operative word. liberal, aristocratic people have always had fewer children. The conservatives do all the grunt work and the intelligent liberals with one kid reap the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:35 AM
3

One facet of western culture is not equivalent to the entirety of its civilization. Cultural trends are expected. Some things stay and some don’t. Women being able to vote is likely a thing that will stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:46 AM
3

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:29 AM
22

But you very clearly are. People can see right through this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:45 AM
11

You aren’t risking anything. Have as many kids as you like, if you can afford them. Your wife will be risking a lot then. You can’t control anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:45 AM
11

Because it is inherently pathetic and evil to want to subjugate half of society simply because you aren’t up to snuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:43 AM
10

People had more children when costs were lower and infant mortality was higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:40 AM
10

There is no such thing as a “liberal civilization.” You are referring to a set of political beliefs which are no longer en vogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:29 AM
11

There is no evidence that women’s liberation is causing a civilizational collapse. People in the west have always had fewer kids, for example. But yeah, I mean… I don’t care about the stragglers. There are always some and I’m not part of that demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:27 AM
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It’s not going to cause civilizational collapse. Men who believe this are struggling to adapt and as such, want things to return to the way they were. That will not happen. Thus, it will (potentially) lead to the ending of your bloodline—not a collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:09 AM
1

No? A domestic worker is not raising my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:12 PM
0

If you require a prenup, you’ll get a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:34 PM

It’s not quite that simple. They typically do value the things they talk about, but sometimes not as much as they say. I will grant you that women are reluctant to talk about things like wanting someone good in bed, but I think it’s less virtue signaling and more that men react very badly and accuse superficiality/vapidness when women are forthright about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:10 AM

You don’t realize how important it is until he smells bad to you (or bad generally)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:32 PM
3

If you have a micropenis, size matters. If you’re around average, no one will care. It’s mostly a skill and attentiveness thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:01 PM
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The table is for information, not argumentation. Women like what they like. It’s not our problem that smelling good and being a good lover is an issue for some men. Those ones just won’t have success.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:31 PM
3

Revealed preferences are measured by observing behavior, so actually, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:26 PM
0

People can read the chart. That’s why I posted it. I like that you left out the sensitive one on purpose. Yes, you need to be good at sex, smell good, and be sexy to the people you’re pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:24 PM
1

I don’t know if you understand what revealed preferences mean. That means those are their preferences after having been involved with someone or dating around, not before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:16 PM
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8th and 16th on the list aren’t exactly high priorities. I don’t think this is doing what you think it is. Of course being good in bed and alluring to the woman you’re trying to woo is important. Do you expect to act like a bump on a log and have women think you’re a prince? Is that what you’re trying to insinuate?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:55 PM
2

Yeah, some of them were really close and some were way off. Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:54 PM
2

100%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:53 PM
1

No problem. Here are some links from his website. http://pauleastwick.com/ideals
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:53 PM
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Sure. Here’s an example <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:41 PM
10

They mean that they want to know revealed preferences, not stated preferences. The problem is that a lot of women don’t know the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:32 PM
8

Nothing romantic about this. If you want a woman to stay at home, no prenup. That’s the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:01 PM

These videos are jokes man
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:46 PM
2

🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:12 PM
1

Naturally weak men should date women who don’t desire strong men. You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. You’re hurting someone else by lying about your personal constitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:11 PM
2

I don’t have any other men in rotation. He’s the first man I slept with. 😹 Keep grasping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:06 PM
2

Not usually, no. Don’t try to get into a discussion with me about makeup, though. You don’t know anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:03 PM
4

Nah, he tells everyone frequently he lucked out. His balls are empty, his brain is stimulated, and his stomach is full. The way I interact with nitwits who overestimate their SMV on Reddit is not how I treat my loved ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:01 PM
6

You’re not who I’m referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:00 PM
2

Those aren’t things that can be compared. Apples and oranges wrt appearance and personality. You cannot “develop” intelligence or creativity where they aren’t present to begin with, though, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:53 PM
2

You’re reading too much into it. I would never suggest something as stupid as a “redpill only war.” I’m referring mostly to blackpillers, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:26 PM
0

Yes, that’s why you can’t use those statistics to further your point. I disagree. It’s a very small number. Less than 2% of men over 25 are still virgins. (I can actually pull a specific source for that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:11 PM
-1

That isn’t accounting for being single by choice. Most young men are commitment-phobic. You can’t use those types of statistics synonymously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:03 PM
0

Nah, not really. That’s the case for maybe 2-5% people. Really unusual people will have an easier time doing things in person where they aren’t being preemptively judged on superficial metrics. This definitely isn’t a problem that’s relevant to most people. Trying to make it so just makes you look whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:55 PM
4

Depends which problems you’re referring to. some of the issues women complain about are demographic issues, not individual ones. Not being able to pull is not a problem worth social attention. Widespread sexual assault, on the other hand, is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:41 PM
6

I didn’t have any desire to do that. I waited because I had no interest in fulfilling tradwife fantasies for local men who didn’t meet my standards. Don’t assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:33 PM
4

If you are undesirable and unwilling to change authentically, yes, you should settle. The problem is your attitude, not your looks, your height, your income or your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:32 PM
1

I’m married. 😹 I never said it was an issue for me currently, but being selective in a sea of entitled hairy monsters is frustrating regardless of your own personal quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:31 PM
5

I don’t support those choices either. Don’t assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:30 PM
3

Yes, I’m aware of that. I don’t care which outcomes are better for men. I thought that was clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:15 PM

Actually it is the case. Consider that your standards are still too high. Men always want a 10 and project this infatuation onto women. Even if I grant you this fantasy, you can’t force women who you consider “undesirable” to want you. If men are dating these undesirable women, turns out they are, in fact, desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:10 PM
5

No, if you can’t get women, you should authentically improve yourself in observable ways. The gym part of redpill and suggesting discipline are not bad things. Suggesting you alter your entire personality is. A victim mindset can be shed and changed, but your personality can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:06 PM

That’s still true. You can’t force people to date within what you declare to be an acceptable matched range for them. Who you can pull is who you can pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:05 PM
6

Most of them are. The ones who aren’t can stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:04 PM
3

Yes, I know the difference, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:46 PM

Sure I do. Most of them aren’t especially unique and fit into one of several archetypes I’ve seen and interacted with plenty of times before. If you’re having trouble, it’s because you aren’t actually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:45 PM

An increase of complaints does not mean an increase in difficulty, it means an increase in ineptitude and desiring the absence of benchmarks and standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:38 PM
4

Because male weakness translates to hatred, a lack of accountability, and taking out their failures on others. Often violently. Male entitlement and victim complexes are typical downstream effects of weakness. I don’t value those qualities and I don’t know any high value women who do. Empathy and compassion are for your mother to feel, not your dating prospects. Women likely regard you and others like you as some sort of kicked puppy. That isn’t sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:35 PM
1

It is made up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:33 PM
5

There is not a single iota of proof you can furnish for this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:32 PM

This is cope. Normal people are not struggling to get into happy, healthy relationships or to acquire sex. It’s somewhere between 2-5% of people, liberally speaking. being single by choice is included in most statistical models of this “problem,” so you can’t use those numbers as evidence for people trying and failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:32 PM
3

I don’t care about what happens to them. You can hate someone’s constitution and not care much about the manner of their eventual demise. A better question is why wouldn’t someone competent hate weakness
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:27 PM

No it wasn’t, because you don’t have one. Endorsement of dysfunction doesn’t make you a martyr, it makes you stupid. I have plenty of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:26 PM
-10

They don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:24 PM
6

Thankfully, I don’t care what left-wing men think about me. Yippee!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:19 PM
3

Hating weak and pathetic men is hardly hating all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:16 PM
6

Misandry isn’t real. I hope that helps. I also never said “kill all men,” but I wouldn’t be sad if the annoying ones fell off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:13 PM
8

I am. Not all autistic men are whiny babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:09 PM
3

No, because it isn’t relevant to what I’m talking about. It doesn’t disprove anything. Americans and other western countries have always used citizens as jarhead grunts—since the first World War, in particular, around which time the advent of modern culture occurred. I meant what I said, you’re just not very strong when it comes to interpretation. Just because culling the herd was a second-order effect of war doesn’t mean it was the reason it happened or that it was the conflict’s entire purpose…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:06 PM
2

I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:01 PM
5

It might provide some valuable insight you seem to be lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:54 PM
1

No, I meant it literally. My husband is autistic and he struggles with interpreting what is obvious to other people, too. What you’re mentioning is not relevant. I also never said war was used to cull the herd, just that it was a resulting effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:46 PM
2

Suicide should be difficult to accomplish. This has taken a weird turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:38 PM
-6

I’d implore you to consider how frustrating it is to be a young woman who wants a self-assured, competent man in a dating market full of people like the ones in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:37 PM
5

It is for people who aren’t autistic. I am referring to people who can get on the computer and use the internet to complain about how lonely they are. We’ve never been in a state of permanent warfare, per se, but international conflict that affected us used to be a lot more consistent than it is now. We haven’t really been “at war” for many years. That’s the point. Culling the herd via war (which also includes healthy male bonding) has fallen out of cultural rotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:34 PM
2

Nah, I don’t agree with subsidizing weakness, and the government deciding who lives or dies on a concerted, individual level is not something I support.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:32 PM
4

… Okay, let me try to explain this again in simpler terms: The point of the redpill is to meld unsuccessful, insecure men into something resembling, in image, a successful and confident man. This kind of external metamorphosis can work to trick women, but it will not work to ensure you (or her) happiness, because the problem is that you resent expectations’ presence in total and that is not truly who you are. instead of pretending to be something you aren’t, consider accepting you fall into an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:31 PM
-8

Who cares if it’s a trauma response? It’s a scourge on modern social climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:27 PM
7

It’s a paradise for men with an IQ of 80, I’ll grant you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:26 PM
6

I think the ones who survive war are uniquely positioned to come back and be different, more resilient people, so I think the function of war in particular is useful development for adrift young men. I’d be open to entertaining other ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:25 PM
8

At the very least, the belligerent ones who hate women or blame us for their problems, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:21 PM
5

It’s true, though. 😹
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:20 PM
6

I don’t have any interest in discussing the customs of savages. They aren’t who’s being referred to. That much was obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:14 PM
2

Pretending to be something you aren’t (masculine and competent, as is the goal of the entire redpill platform) is inauthentic, which is another adjective for false.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:13 PM
4

They aren’t happy with you, they’re happy with a false image you’ve spent many resentful years creating. I would guess that breeds even more resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:07 PM
4

Yes. War used to take care of this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:05 PM
8

Nah. “choose better” means “choose me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:09 PM
2

Nietzsche didn’t like defeatist losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:26 PM
3

I wonder why she didn’t respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:24 PM
1

Sorry but this is just ridiculous. You obviously do care. You’re complaining about not being Chad, which is a massive projection. Women don’t care if you’re Chad. They aren’t men who are obsessed with pulling a 10 throughout the duration of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:23 PM
0

They can. Read Nietzsche.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:47 PM
1

No, not really. There are plenty of men who truly aren’t stingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:47 PM
27

If he has ED and he’s subscribed to multiple subs, he’s consuming way too much. It’s now affecting your relationship and your sex life. He’s not sexually performing and it’s entirely his own fault. Masculine men have desires, not “needs.”
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/24 09:50 AM
0

There are plenty of men who do not feel this way. Lol. This is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:46 AM
-3

Having an interest in something doesn’t mean you’re owed it or that you’ll be good at it. Every human being has, for example, an interest in staying alive, and most are interested in companionship and having a soft place to rest at night. If no one likes you, consider whether the problem is everyone else or you. if it’s the latter (it is), you have three options: a) get better, b) reevaluate your standards, c) stay single. This is evolution in action: there are some men with inferior bloodlines …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:43 AM
0

Arguing about fallacies is for rookies. Desperation and accepting any woman who would breathe in your direction is not the noble sacrifice y’all seem to conceptualize that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:25 PM
1

If you’re an asshole without regard or your friend is, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:24 PM
2

That sort of thing has an expiration date, according to men of your kind. There are more important things than physical attraction which need to stick around post-heyday to glue you together and propel things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:22 PM
1

Disagree. I’ve felt it in several. Your friends, if good ones, are there even when your most demanding relationships (marriage) end.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:20 PM
2

Probably correct on the last point, but I don’t know. I have unconditional love for the people who did life alongside me for years, even though I couldn’t give them anything but my company. I’ve gone my separate ways with several, but the love’s still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:19 PM
2

It’s not flattering to be desperate. That doesn’t signify love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:17 PM
-1

Unconditional love exists. It's called friendship. Siblings, sometimes, if you're close with your family. Relationships are much more about mutual benefit. If there are expectations and you're spending the majority of your time around someone else, it needs to be beneficial for both them and you to end up being a happy, successful relationship. Most people only have one spouse. You can have many friends, and that's easier, because not every friend needs to be everything you need in the way a spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:48 AM
1

Yes, this is true. Source: I dated as a lesbian for years. I only preferred to date other lesbians, but they were in extremely short supply. It was hell to try to find someone even remotely compatible, let alone someone with whom I had chemistry. Men of all sorts have been interested in me since I came out as bisexual, and let me tell you, heterosexuals of all sorts massively overstate their dating woes--even more common with the male crop. It's a walk in the park compared to gay dating. Trust m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:33 AM
9

Yep. I’ve always said that men do the work during the first couple of months, and women do all the work thereafter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:01 AM
1

If you don’t fantasize about sex or want to masturbate, you aren’t having pervasive sexual thoughts. You are completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:24 AM
0

Sure, but if a woman has zero sexual thoughts prior to marriage, she isn’t exhibiting values or self control, she’s exhibiting a lack of sex drive. There is a distinction to be made there and it’s an important one men overlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:57 AM
1

I’m not a feminist. You don’t understand female biology. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:51 AM
1

“hypocrisity” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:50 AM
1

Relax, lady. I was extremely religious for many years and have a high libido, but I also started masturbating and consuming explicit media/fantasizing about other people at a young age. Women who display 0 signs of sexuality prior to marriage are not exhibiting self control, they are exhibiting a lack of sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:50 AM
1

I’ve mentioned explicit qualifiers that indicate what I’m talking about multiple times now. Self control and a high sex drive can coexist, certainly. High sex drive + never masturbating + never fantasizing doesn’t usually happen. Women who are super chaste and display 0 sign of sexuality in general are not likely to have high sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:48 AM
0

I’m not coping, I’m married. you’re the blackpilled one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:52 AM
2

Desire doesn’t underpin everything when you don’t have a spontaneous libido. The pickup artist logic has poisoned your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:53 PM
3

lol, she’s not going to have difficulty finding a partner or conceiving. having less than 10 bodies, for example, is usually not a problem for normal men. anything more than that might be cause for concern, but nonmonogamy is only indicative of a pattern in women when it is chronic and long-lasting. some one-offs in college aren’t going to prevent lifelong happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:42 PM
-2

Yep, exactly. It’s not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:57 PM
-1

Yes, but sometimes that never goes away and/or is very potentially genetically influenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:56 PM
0

Sure they do. You’re projecting. There are plenty of men who just don’t give a shit at all. In fact, I’d say they’re the majority (within reason).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:55 PM
-1

Evopsych is real. Sorry you weren’t selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:55 PM
0

It’s really not about that. Women can want casual sex in their early years and a family later. These are both genuine desires. We’re not men—desire for sex is not always what underpins everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:54 PM
2

no, actually, you can’t. if the desire is not there you cannot fashion it out of thin air. Because you are a man, you can’t conceptualize what it’s like not to have a spontaneous libido. A large percentage of women don’t have that, especially if they never masturbate or fantasize sexually before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:53 PM
1

No, it has to be something that develops and evolves innately without any influence from any single person. It’s a process, not a conscious choice to change. That’s how anything with sexuality works—you can’t force it. Sex drive is not related to lifetime number of partners, so you’re getting confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:52 PM
0

It’s not “sista science,” and I didn’t say libido was a set value, but if someone has always had a low sex drive, that isn’t changing. In the case of sociosexuality, yes, that can evolve over time. Women also don’t experience category specific attraction in the same way men do, so it’s hard for them to model any genuine changes that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:50 PM
0

No, not really. it’s factual information. that is how many women’s sociosexuality works. This doesn’t even apply to me, because I never had a “hoe phase,” but sex drive is actually not related to lifetime number of sexual partners. A woman can still be conservative and have a high sex drive—being extremely pious and never masturbating says something about her orientation, not about her self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:49 PM
1

Nah, that’s a fantasy you have about how things actually work. If she isn’t masturbating or fantasizing prior to marriage, nothing will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:47 PM
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Not true. Women's sociosexual orientations often do change with age, even with unrestricted past behavior. That doesn't happen solely because they regret their pasts and want to settle, they just genuinely move past it and want families. It's not at all uncommon. You're confusing sex drive with promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:11 AM
2

You cannot coach a woman into having a higher sex drive. A very religious virgin will not suddenly become a sex kitten once married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:15 AM
-1

What is the goal of your expression, exactly? If it’s to convince women your problems are worthy of remediation by them or to start some kind of government-issued girlfriend program, your efforts are fruitless. Complaining will fix nothing in your world or at scale for young men who are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:25 AM
1

This is true, though. Women do all of the hard work past the courtship phase. Y’all only have to try for a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:35 AM
5

The irony of the post is completely lost on most of the commenters here, wow haha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:16 PM
1

he has ASPD
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:15 PM
-1

Somebody honest, at least—ah, yep, ASPD
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:15 PM
1

Sure. Food. Women still cook and make the shopping trips. That’s modern day foraging. Yea, I’m a fascist for not wanting my sons to have inferior genes. So be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:20 PM
3

That’s because this sub is full of effeminate, lazy men with no sense of agency or responsibility. It’s not a representative sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:18 PM
0

Women gestate and have boobs/produce milk for a reason. they are meant to be the primary parents in the early years of a child’s life. His comments exemplify malfunctioned genetics and laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:13 PM

your “definition” is incorrect. the study of mating patterns is a big part of what I study and do for work. it’s not just about appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:09 PM
2

Of course you are. And no, they certainly wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:59 PM
1

Your bio uses the wrong form of “your.” Please consider dismounting the high horse before you plummet involuntarily to your death with another inane comment like the ones you’ve already made. You’re denigrating the fact my husband supports me and trying to paint me as some sort of leech who “knows nothing of the real world.” I guarantee I have experienced more material hardship in my life than you ever will. Clawing out of those circumstances (which I did not create myself, I was born into them)…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:58 PM
5

I’m recovering from a death in the family. I’m a full time student. My husband makes six figs and when I’m done, we’ll be close to half a million in gross. Hehe Edit to add I supported myself for ten years. Do you have any more feet to put in your mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:45 PM
3

Yes, and men rarely abscond being providers. You’ll find someone who fits. If not, perhaps it’s better to stay single than to be with a woman who would be able to find a man who would enthusiastically pay for her meals. There is no “male loneliness epidemic” that wasn’t directly caused by modern men’s shortcomings. Y’all used to fight in wars and build things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:20 PM
0

If earning money is soul crushing, you aren’t built for marriage or a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:02 PM
3

Sure you do. Just be single or find a woman who wants to provide for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:00 PM
-2

No, exceptional men have value to me, because I’m objectively exceptional. I’m in the 99th percentile across several metrics and expect similarly from my partner. People should have standards relative to what is appropriate for them, but I would say that being inept and weak is a turnoff for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:53 PM
5

Yeah; they don’t. It’s revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:47 PM
8

lol Most abuse that legitimately injures a victim and puts them within inches of their life is perpetrated by men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:45 PM
1

Yes, eugenics are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:44 PM
5

Why are you giving it to them if you don’t want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:26 PM
6

It’s advice. Please don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:26 PM
7

Don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:23 PM
14

Those things are true, though. Am I supposed to lie, or to not say true things? I guess if being truthful is equivalent to hatred, fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:42 PM
8

None of those things. I’m in my 20s. My husband pays for everything and tells me I never have to work again if I don’t want to. He’s fine with my academic pursuits, though, as I desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:13 PM
1

Right, I’m sure you’ve been massively successful, that’s why you’re on this sub insinuating that the majority of women use men like ATMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:11 PM
8

I absolutely don’t have a problem paying for my own food in any normal circumstance. I have a problem with someone asking me on a date and secretly hoping I will offer to pay for it. I always brought my wallet when I was dating just in case, but if someone expected me to pay for the date/didn’t at least take out their wallet for good measure, I wouldn’t be seeing them again. You want a mommy, not a girlfriend or a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:06 PM
13

Yes, expecting a woman to offer to pay for the food on a first date is absolutely a feminine behavior. Most women don’t appreciate being shafted into that role. Men pursue, women vet. Women are more valuable in the dating market than men are. Sorry to be harsh, but if you want to secure a partner, you do have to try to impress them. Men and women typically go about this in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:01 PM
3

Ok. Feel free not to listen to my advice. See where that gets you. Your stratagems have worked really well so far, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:59 AM
3

Sweetheart, you don’t have a point. the sensitive young man shtick is old now. Either accept the way things are, be single, or date other strange people like yourself who are averse to commitment, expectations, and kind gesturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:58 AM
10

Why not just find a woman who is masculine and wants to take care of you? you’re expecting feminine women not to be feminine in ways that you, specifically, dislike. That isn’t how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:57 AM
6

it’s the way of things. your dislike of age-old evolutionary dynamics is not women’s responsibility to solve. date a man if you want to be doted on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:54 AM
2

I don’t hate men. I guess you could say that I hate weak, incapable men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:53 AM
3

Yes, and overwhelmingly to men’s benefit. They quickly lose their “egalitarian” status when both parts of the couple are contributing equally in a financial sense and she does most/all of the housework (most common 50/50 scenario) or when a child is brought into the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:52 AM
-3

No, because that happens on a much more frequent basis than gold digging. You can’t gold dig a poor man (most of you, on this sub), but you can certainly abuse women as a poor man. Almost every woman I know has been abused by at least one man, whether in the context of a romantic relationship or not. Don’t know of many men who have had all their “gold” stolen, even in the case of, say, alimony, which is usually properly owed. I’m not really sure how your comment is relevant to the discussion at …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:49 AM
3

Can you describe, though? With examples and material terms? Your vague responses are quite telling that this is an irrational, emotional complaint, not a qualifiable one. What does “not using” someone look like in this instance? what is a genuine relationship? Also, why shouldn’t women care about money?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:47 AM
10

Why’s that? Let’s unpack this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:41 AM
19

If all the women you’re meeting are gold diggers, you are almost certainly the problem. a lot of men also overstate their financial value. 70k a year, there’s not much gold to dig for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:39 AM
9

Men like this don’t consider staying home to be a legitimate reason to need support. They are incurably resentful of the fact they have to contribute and help care for others in their family units. They are better off not marrying or procreating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:35 AM
4

How would you describe a relationship in which the woman wasn’t using the man? 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:19 AM
-1

you know exactly why
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:15 AM
4

if they get meaning and purpose from providing, they aren’t being used, you’re just stingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:14 AM
2

men smell a lot worse than women, even with deo on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:00 AM
2

sure, and i like it that way. keep your stank away from me. do whatever you like with your hair, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:00 AM

I guarantee you all of these men are much more objectively attractive than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:57 AM

A lot of men can. This specific kind of man cannot. He probably considers himself charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:01 AM

They are not lacking in charisma. You lack the social hardware to tell who has charisma and who does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:56 PM
3

i mean, it is unhygienic if other people can smell it beyond sticking their nose in your armpit. you won’t have a ton of BO if you shower every day and after strenuous physical activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:54 PM
0

We aren’t talking about pubic hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:43 PM
3

East Asia, maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:52 PM
14

Right, but statistically, you are wrong. Complete removal is definitely a minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:48 PM
15

No, they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:45 PM
9

That isn't a normal thing for men to do. Why don't you chide your hairy brothers instead of critiquing the small percentage of women who don't shave their armpits?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:44 PM
1

I didn't bring up sex. I brought up resentment. Being a sex pest is usually concurrent with resentment, but, sex pests who have charisma typically don't have problems scoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:25 PM
18

Are you unhygienic because you don't shave your armpits?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:24 PM
0

Let's not lie, now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:00 PM
-1

I have my act together. The difference is my husband doesn't require a certain income bracket or level of education from me--those are personal endeavors I can pursue at my leisure. I also never said men shouldn't have *any* standards, just that income was a stupid one if you want a feminine woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:00 PM
0

Human dynamics? Please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:44 PM
-2

if a woman’s husband can’t afford to have her stay home if that’s what she wants, arguably, he is the one without his shit together. makes a lot more financial sense and from a quality of childcare perspective to have mom stay home. expecting sizable contributions from your live-in gf or wife indicates you are incapable of supporting a family and that you are stingy with your resources—effeminate, insecure traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:03 PM
1

oh, really? explain to me why.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:52 PM
0

Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:47 PM
1

it's definitely okay to have standards, just not that one. requiring that your wife work is indicative you aren't comfortable with supporting a family, and that's incompatible with the lifestyle the types of women you'd like to date want to lead. if you want to be the man of the house, you have to... be the man of the house. if she *wants* to work and have a career, that's different. i never said anything about drug addicts. LOL the only standards a healthy, masculine man should have are a) is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:43 PM
0

it’s effeminate to expect that she work, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:33 PM
0

How's that? Being a loving partner is a red flag? What else do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:26 PM
2

PUA nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:25 PM
1

What is your point, exactly? I didn't mention rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:25 PM
1

yes, for marriage i don't think you should be expecting too much with a user flair like "anime pilled male" though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:53 AM
1

if my family and friends hate him because he isn't good to me, that's a problem. anything else is a non-issue. i like who i like. edit to add i've seen you mention income, which is not... a trivial thing? if he can't make enough to support multiple children, it's not about what other people think, that's just an incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:35 AM
-2

oh, i know. the sentiment applies regardless. if you expect anything from a woman except being a loving partner, you're ngmi.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:58 AM
1

i don’t decry the “anti-female” ones. you’re assuming a lot. i’m above average by large margins in most metrics. and also, that only worked for rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:39 AM
-1

Expecting a woman to have money is effeminate and if a man asked me what I “brought to the table” financially on a date, that would be the end of the arrangement Don’t get me wrong, I supported myself for years and understand the value of hard work—just won’t chain myself to a stingy man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:57 AM
1

i’ve never been sexually assaulted? who are you talking to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:39 AM
-2

do you think women are unaware of the character of the men that they choose lol if you’re charismatic or attractive, you can get away with much more, for sure—i don’t see how that discounts what i’m saying, which is that if a woman can tell you are resentful and bitter, you’re not going to score or be given a chance in any other way
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:37 AM
-2

most men want women who are a 10/10, too, and tend to be much more fixated on unchangeable traits like youth and appearance. next argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:30 PM
0

we don't all agree that it's the top 20% of men getting all of the attention because that is not a real figure. can't argue meaningfully when your premises are false. getting better is not just about material aspects. it's about learning not to resent women for being women. they can smell your attitude toward them a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:26 PM
1

i did not do that. expecting a mommy bangmaid who will help someone through infantile problems is separate from providing a listening ear and support to someone who is emotionally mature, moved past explosive childish emotion (most emotional expression for men is rage), and can, for the most part, handle their lives in adult ways. i used the adjectives i used for a reason. also, if you need regular emotional maintenance and reassurance as in the way of a woman, you need to be looking for a man o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:55 PM
1

you’re not answering the question, and you’re inferring implications i didn’t make.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:49 PM
1

in what world do those sentences describe the same thing? what do you think i am referring to in the latter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:42 PM
1

those are two separate issues
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:01 PM
1

i can pull up some figures for you: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5784910/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5110041/ https://hbr.org/2019/03/research-when-juggling-work-and-family-women-offer-more-emotional-support-than-men the fact is expecting emotional doting and catering is a feminine trait. you should probably find someone who is a bit masculine for a woman who can satisfy these needs most men don’t need consistent and concerted emotional support from their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:55 PM
0

i didn’t make the same argument as you, because women accept emotional neglect from men on a regular basis. i would hardly call that an expectation for clinical-caliber services. any amount of effort is not quite therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:35 PM
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men are not the therapists in heterosexual relationships. an expectation from your gf or wife that you will care about her life and emotional world is not equivalent to your being her therapist. men are the ones who invest less in their friendships and care far less about social interaction outside of their marriages. wife ends up playing mommy bangmaid who listens to hubby’s infantile problems that could have been moved past in his teens with an iota of emotional maturity or self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:17 AM
-5

delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:14 AM
0

disordered opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:13 AM
-1

Maybe, but only if they had some kind of shared interest or interesting trait No No No all that to say, most average men don’t have issues getting partners. step away from the PUA logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:43 AM
-1

this is a nice way to cope with the fact that a high-quality american woman wouldn’t entertain you
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