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3	Genuine question for feminists wondering why this doesnt ever get address OP, I'd like to know what you have done to address this? Coming from a country that doesn't have any conscription/draft for anyone (and yes I'm aware that we're privileged in this, but it was a decision made when the country was formed after independence from our colonists), if you want to live somewhere where nobody can be drafted or everyone can be, you have to do something to make that happen. It's not feminism's fault that it exists. Complaining abo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 10:06 PM
13	The cost of living crisis is in a large part contributed to by the ability of women to pursue careers. If you ask me, the problem is men having careers. If men were only allowed to have part time jobs, and left all the real careers to women, everything would be less expensive. Do you see how dumb your argument sounds. Women now need to work in order to subscribe to life This is the human condition, everyone needs to work in some shape or form in order to subscribe to life. Why, in your opinion, should half the population be locked out of being paid for their labour?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 02:53 PM
2	What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”? Gambling is stupid. I agree. I will call out both stupid men and women Ok, so women are actually better with money than men since they might spend more but tend to spend it on things like clothing and feeding the kids, while men often gamble away their money. So, you're doing a 180 from the OP where you said men are smarter with money and consider the long term while women just spend in the here and now. but some women will say “I’m just a girl” and act like any criticism is misogyny. I've no un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 10:35 AM
7	What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”? Women drive anywhere from 70 to 80% of consumer purchasing. It’s not sexist if it’s based off of real numbers You claim to have a high IQ, how can you write something so stupid. Surely you can figure out why women drive more consumer spending than men. Have a think about it and if you can't get there, try looking it up. Part of being an adult is making mature decisions that don’t have instant payoff but happen over time. Like just because I have the money to buy a trip to Europe doesn’t mean I s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 09:13 PM
13	What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”? I won’t date a man that makes less than me or has less prestige than me.” Who are you quoting here? Don't say women in general, I've never heard any woman in my whole life say this, so provide the details or we will assume you made it up (we all know that already anyway). I know if men got these jobs, they’d be smart with money. They’d save so that they could be ready to one day start a family. But women just don’t seem to do that. Always spending on material goods and dinner And you couldn't he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 07:08 PM
1	I feel like men being the sole providers is an unrealistic expectation in 2026. You didnt want to click on my video that defends OP point Correct and I already explained why. but instead type paragraphs insisting I’m still wrong… You are wrong. Like what is your point? That western women in general expect men to provide for them financially? You know that's not true. Why are you pretending it is? the video goes against the your argument because it actual woman telling us what they want lol One "actual" woman does not represent what women in general want or do, and you know …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 12:43 AM
2	I feel like men being the sole providers is an unrealistic expectation in 2026. Most women.. most PEOPLE dont make +100k I know, that's what I said in my comment that you're replying to. So you’re saying im “plain wrong” that she’s an outlier but im correct your average westerner is not earning 140k? Yes, she's not an outlier in that she doesn't expect a man to "provide" for her. She is an outlier in the amount of money she makes, just like a man making that money is also an outlier. The point still stands, whether a woman is earning 30k or 140k, they generally expect to co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 11:38 PM
4	I feel like men being the sole providers is an unrealistic expectation in 2026. what you’re explaining is a personal and an outlier Nope, it's totally the norm. You're right of course that most people are not earning 140k, however most women in western countries work and expect to contribute to the household bills and expenses and don't for one second expect to be a "kept woman". You are just plain wrong in suggesting that the person you replied to is an outlier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 11:03 PM
31	I feel like men being the sole providers is an unrealistic expectation in 2026. When I read posts like this it always makes me wonder where exactly you live that this is your view. Like, I live in a western country and everyone works here, men and women. I literally don't know any woman who would expect to not work and spend her days "swiping her boyfriend/husband's credit card" as you put it. I certainly know some women who stayed home for a few years when their kids were young or worked only part time while the kids were young, but this was a situation where 1. It was a d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 10:55 PM
1	Most people need to experience casual sex, especially men. And.. I'm out. I know to quit while I'm ahead with people who just repeat back what you've said as if they think they are getting the better of you. Good luck, I believe you're going to need it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 09:19 PM
2	Most people need to experience casual sex, especially men. I hate Redditors so much. The most insufferable, toxic, childish, people around. Wow, you really talk about yourself like that? Harsh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 09:04 PM
2	Most people need to experience casual sex, especially men. No, no one has done research on this. It's just a given people are discussing and presenting their case based on their own personal framing and logic. IF you demand proof for everything, you wont find it in either way, because it's not studied. I didn't expect any proof since I know it doesn't exist because OP is wrong. But, he made a claim, albeit a ridiculous one, so he either needs to back it up with evidence or admit he's talking out of his arse. Then start belittling him to stfu and listen.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 08:57 PM
13	Most people need to experience casual sex, especially men. No proof then? Just more manosphere talking points, as expected. Again, you know nothing, time to grow up - some good advice is to talk less, listen more, or online post less, read more. But, that means listening to and reading from a variety of different people, not just the ones you agree with or idolise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 07:15 PM
21	Most people need to experience casual sex, especially men. Most women have had at least one casual sex experience, and the guys they sleep with are usually more attractive than the men they enter relationships with, except for some rare exceptions. This is bullshit. You know what, if you can show proof that the men women have sex with are usually more attractive than the men they enter relationships with, I will believe you. Good luck researching that! As a woman who has had casual sex in the past and knows many other women who have, I know that it's us…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 07:09 PM
16	Would you change your views and behaviour? But many women care already, and act already. There are likely more women volunteering for mental health causes than there are men. You are asking a ridiculous question. You cannot expect women to have sex with men they don't want to have sex with, even by claiming that the man will kill himself if she doesn't, that is manipulative and coercive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 08:55 PM
17	Would you change your views and behaviour? How cold of you /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 08:35 PM
10	Would you change your views and behaviour? im not theorising that its the cause But, your OP uses the words "root cause". ?? numerous studies have shown sexlessness and chronic loneliness have adverse health impact. True. If something has an adverse health impact on you then you should do your best to eliminate that in order to improve your health. For chronic loneliness you must make an effort with people, try to be friendly, get involved in activities in your area etc, anything that will help you form bonds with others to hopefully all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 08:28 PM
24	Would you change your views and behaviour? Ew. No, I'm not going to have sex with men I don't want to have sex with in case they might kill themselves otherwise. What is wrong with you? Your premise makes no sense anyway, it could never be proven that "sexlessness" is the root cause of male suicide because it isn't. There are many factors but depression and substance abuse are likely the top two. I know of plenty of suicide cases here in my country and many of them were in a relationship but had serious depression or serious substance ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 07:37 PM
6	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Not one of my colleagues is working a harder job with longer hours than me, and men don't get to claim that just because there are some men out there who work harder or longer than us. There are also some women out there who work harder and longer than us, for example the women who work a full time job then get home and do the bulk of the childcare and domestic work. Just because part of that is unpaid work doesn't make it less work. Try to use a bit of critical thinking here and think it throug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 02:37 PM
13	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Still waiting for y’all to start working equal jobs. I’m on my third day of 12 hours today and only took Sunday off. Women don't have to work the same job or hours as you personally do to be working equally and want an equal partner. I work the same job and hours as my colleagues who are both men and women, we all work 40 hours a week. You consider yourself superior to everyone who works less than 12 hours a day? Lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 01:09 PM
–	Women should not be given unchecked power, ever. Not just cheating, but lying and planning to lie for the rest of your life, and after she has done all the hard work in and damaged her body to bring the child into the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 02:11 PM
–	Women should not be given unchecked power, ever. We've had hundreds of years of "believe all men" movement. Men were always taken more seriously than women and a man's word was considered to be more reliable than a woman's. Anyway, your OP is a mysoginistic rant, you should delete it. No, my emotions are not random or all over the place thanks, I'm as logical as any man, you don't get to decide that for me or any other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 01:45 PM
2	Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture? Why can't you just speak and debate normally instead of making up fake claims that you know as well as I do are not true? Can you just be real now please. Asking again. At least you seem to be aware of men who are unable to compete, but it seems that you only lack the information on why cannot they compete, am I wrong? You're wrong. I'm not lacking any information. What information do you think I'm lacking? Honestly don't bother replying unless you're willing to discuss normally instead of "mano…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 10:23 PM
–	Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources? This is absolute bullshit. A woman can absolutely be content and happy with a man simply because hes the best she could find, and she doesn't have other superior men to compare him against. She can be happy with a man if she's attracted to him, likes him personality wise and he treats her well. And also, he must be attracted to her and like her and be treated well by her, otherwise neither of them are likely to be happy. Comparing him to "other superior men" just doesn't come into it. I dunno, I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 10:05 PM
1	Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture? Obviously I don’t mean women literally are looking for 7 ft man it would be absurd I'll take this as an admission that you claimed something as fact that you knew all along was not a fact. Glad you now understand what that word means! Instead you are now claiming that you were only using hyperbole to illustrate your point. Bullshit. YOU claimed it as fact, admit you were lying! It's ok to admit when you were wrong, doesn't make you less of a man. But I know you probably think it does. It doesn’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:12 PM
0	Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture? This irrelevant question in no way refutes or even addresses what I wrote. Can you engage with what I wrote? Do you understand now what the word "fact" means and that your above comment contained no facts? Or are you still confused?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 07:25 PM
0	Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture? facts Lmao It amazes me how many guys on this sub have such a poor or non existent grasp of some very basic words. It would be a good idea to check the dictionary first before using a word if you're not sure of the meaning. Otherwise it can make you look like an idiot. Nothing you wrote above is a fact. It's literally just your opinion/belief of what might happen in a completely hypothetical scenario that has never been the case and has no chance of ever being the case. Here's a fact for you tho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 06:08 PM
6	Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture? You must cringe so hard typing out this shit. I wonder why you do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 02:42 PM
1	Why are so many women convinced that they’re morally superior to men? In what world has anyone ever been ostracised for claiming that women are too emotional or are bad drivers? None of the many many people I've heard say that shit throughout my life were ostracised. Be realistic please.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 02:18 PM
3	Women do not peak in their 20s Well you see, when "redpill" guys talk about a woman's peak they are thinking of themselves and not the woman. They are choosing to believe that a woman's peak is when she is most sexually attractive to the highest number of men. While an actual woman would not think of herself in such a basic way, and many (maybe even most?) would tell you their peak was in their 30's, still young enough to be healthy and look good, but also developing their career, and much more confident with who they are as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 09:49 PM
–	Does the female PPD community actually represent mainstream women? This is not in any way a response to what I said? for most normal people "beeing french" isnt disproving something I didn't say it was? Can you respond to what I said or is that too embarrassing because you know it's true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 09:41 PM
–	Does the female PPD community actually represent mainstream women? Ok but most of the studies they claim are not actually studies at all (e.g. the ok cupid survey) and/or show the opposite of what they claim, or sometimes are even about something other than what they want to prove. They certainly don't seem to understand what counts as proof or data to back up a claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 09:34 PM
–	Does the female PPD community actually represent mainstream women? So are they pretending they can't or what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 09:21 PM
-1	Women are the ones red pilling men 13 and 14 year old boys can definitely be red pilled by their interactions with girls in middle school I see, so not women as the person I replied to claimed, but children. So, you're saying that children are being "red pilled" by other children? Really? and by their observations of their older brothers and sisters interactions with others. No. They are being "red pilled" by online influencers. Like a 13 year old can see adult relationships and understand parts but not fully understand everythin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 09:34 PM
23	Women are the ones red pilling men 13 and 14 year old boys are not "red pilled" by women, be serious. They are "red pilled" by online influencers spreading hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 07:13 PM
4	Women should not be taken seriously and there is a reason for it We both know that's not true. If it was just this one comment it might be believable but you're on various threads under this post challenging people to refute what OP claimed. Why would anyone go to the bother of refuting something that everyone (yes including you) knows is biased, sexist bullshit. You probably don't even realise that most people here are laughing at you guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 07:14 PM
6	Women should not be taken seriously and there is a reason for it Come on, defending a guy saying that women are not worth taking seriously is, well, a choice. Aren't you embarrassed, you know he's wrong to say such absurd nonsense. Making posts that are not based in reality gets us nowhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 06:35 PM
–	No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxious they WANT women to work they want the OPTION to take care of their woman But what makes these men believe that it's what they want that counts? Surely it's up to a woman to decide what to do with her life? The audacity!	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 07:41 PM
8	No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxious You see, I have a major problem with assertiveness being assumed to be a masculine trait. It's not. All people should be able to assert themselves when needed, and suggesting that an assertive woman is seen as acting like a man and therefore unattractive logically means that a woman being a submissive doormat is attractive to men, likely because then they can control her. All the manosphere/redpill/ misogynistic talk of normal positive human traits being gatekept as masculine and encouraging wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 03:54 PM
2	No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxious I do think that that men have an inherent bias against women who “act like men”. Can you describe what a woman does that means she's "acting like a man"	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 03:44 PM
11	No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxious I reject the idea that a woman is "masculine acting" by being independent, having a career, paying her own bills etc, those things are not "masculine" any more than they are "feminine".	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 03:26 PM
–	Conservative dating is the best approach to dating That's not a response to what I said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 09:35 AM
–	Conservative dating is the best approach to dating could look at job as an optional thing instead of something needed to live But jobs are needed to live, they are not optional. The only alternative is to rely on another person to pay for you, which is dangerous. You're here telling women they should put their lives/livelihood/future in danger. No thanks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 09:31 AM
5	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument Is this satire?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 01:08 AM
13	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument That's not how that works. Everyone has to use their body to earn money, it's not specific to men. When a woman works to earn money to pay her bills do you consider that a violation of her bodily autonomy or does it only apply to men in your mind? What about women who pay child support? Unless you're suggesting that men who pay child support wouldn't be working if they didn't have to pay it and would just live under a bridge or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 11:53 PM
19	The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argument No. A pregnancy in the woman's body does not give her any say over the man's body. You know this so why are you pretending you think it does?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 11:21 PM
4	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Women have spent the last century dismantling any of their traditional roles, and happily appropriating men’s when it suits them. Yep, women weren't happy being in roles that put us as inferior to men, shocking!, so we worked on dismantling them. Taking on roles like earning money for our labour, being a breadwinner, and taking on management roles in companies is not "appropriating"men's roles. Men believed they owned those roles and tried to convince women we weren't capable of them, but it tur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 01:25 PM
5	The Blue Pill is in denial about women's flawed humanity, while the Red Pill just shames women for it If she just breaks up that's fine. No, that's not fine in many men's minds. She will be accused of "branch swinging" whether she did or not. Source: it happened to me with more than one guy and I've seen it happen to other women too. She breaks up with him, he is shocked as he ignored her when she communicated she wasn't happy with how he was treating her. The first question out of his mouth is "Is there someone else?". She says no, since there isn't and she's breaking up with him because she's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 06:17 PM
10	Respect for men going down in modern society If they were competing against us and failed, it's not us to blame. Oh wow. It's like you can see it but you're refusing to see it. Maybe slowly read your op again, and then slowly read this thread from the top again. Who's stealing who's jobs? And why is that a problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 08:45 AM
12	If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it? It is not even a tiny bit true. Ask all the women who were dumped for a "younger model" or whose husband cheated with younger women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 01:13 PM
–	The Alex Pretti looksmaxx edit proves women won't have sympathy for you if you're an ugly man. You haven't in any way, shape or form demonstrated that this proves what you say it proves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 12:46 PM
7	Hypergamy has historically been common in women. So, women only finding less than 10% of men attractive seems reasonable to you? Where did you get that from? I said nothing about what does or doesn't seem reasonable to me. And your response makes no sense in relation to my comment. Care to try again?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/26 03:44 PM
7	Hypergamy has historically been common in women. Ok, so now you're learning the value of critical thinking. Good on you. You shouldn't take everything you read and hear in red or black pill spaces as gospel. Read lots of different things from a variety of different people with an open mind, and then think things through over time to form your own opinions. It can sometimes take years to form a solid opinion on a topic based on all the available information.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/26 12:23 PM
14	Hypergamy has historically been common in women. This is actually hilarious. Now that women can earn their own money and choose their own partner, it's clear that women are not "naturally" hypergamous. But then you guys can't blame women being hypergamous for the fact you are unable to attract a partner. So what to do? I know, let's change the definition of the word in our own heads and pretend it means a woman being with a man she finds good looking and attractive. Then we can continue to say that women are naturally and biologically hypergam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/26 11:56 AM
14	Hypergamy has historically been common in women. Theres reasons for it like mating for the strongest genes, status, wealth, resources etc Or, like, your hypergamous father choosing the man who in his belief has the strongest genes, status, wealth, resources etc. You obviously agree that it's men who are hypergamous, you just don't want to come out and say it. But there's really no other way to explain why in western countries today most women settle down with a man of the same socioeconomic status as herself, when she's the one choosing and no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/26 11:12 AM
23	Hypergamy has historically been common in women. So when black/redpillers talk about these things they aren't necessarily wrong. Yes they are wrong. Because they don't say "Hypergamy has historically been common in women" as per your title. They say that women are naturally and inherently hypergamous, which is incorrect. Hypergamy was a social/cultural phenomenon, not a biological one. Historically it was often the young woman's father who chose her husband, not the woman herself, so really it's men who were hypergamous, not women. Now that wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/26 09:27 AM
3	Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women? men get raped by women True. And women get raped by men. But that's not the topic we're discussing here. women choose to become single moms if they can afford it otherwise it gets denied I've no clue what this sentence is supposed to mean. you can spin in circles but the base of your arguments are shallow no matter how often you repeat it Again, not sure what you mean by this. Is there any chance you could just plainly say what you mean? You seem to be arguing against what I said but it's not cl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 11:54 PM
4	Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women? that does not work What's "that" that you're referring to? And how or why does it not work? Articulate your argument, if you have one. your argument falls apart as soon as abortion is legal No, my argument included abortion being legal and available. Did you misunderstand what I wrote? see sperm banks, rape victims, adoption and so on... Those are separate topics not connected to what we're discussing here which is men being able to have sex with a woman, impregnate her and then turn around and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 11:30 PM
6	Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women? without consent from the man to fund her unliteral choice + repeated irresponsible behavior... No, no. They were both irresponsible, not just her. You could argue he is more irresponsible since he has no control over if the pregnancy in her body continues to term or not, but she does. And, if it does go to term and a child is born, they are both expected to fund it, not just him. And yes, she has unilateral decision making over her own body, just as he does. Why is this so hard to understand? A …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 11:13 PM
9	Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women? I'm not going to bother to reply to all of your points since they are all either reiterating what I said, or taking what I said and trying to twist it into the opposite meaning for some strange reason. I'll just respond to this one: So if women don't want to be parents, she need to act before pregnancy becomes a possibility too? No, obviously, since she can act after she becomes pregnant since the pregnancy is happening in her body and only she controls her own body. If the man was the one who b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 10:43 PM
61	Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women? Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women? It's pretty simple and I would be willing to bet that you already know why. But, for the sake of any young guys reading this who legitimately don't know, I'll explain. Let's say a man and woman have sex with each other. Whether they like it or not they are both consenting to the possibility of a pregnancy happening. That pregnancy may or may not result in a child being born in the end, but they both know a pregnancy can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 08:32 PM
5	It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gate Women are straight up less likely to be intelligent. Thanks for letting us know we can discount all opinions from you and not even bother reading them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 08:58 AM
10	What would your (hypothetical) partner think if they saw your Reddit account? So unless she has a degradation kink I’d say the relationship would probably be over. Wow, you're admitting you don't show your real self to the woman in your life, and if she saw the real you, you believe she would leave you? How sad. But since you also say At least on here all I do is pretty much shit talk women for being all but inferior and condescend them any time they make a counter argument. Yeah, of course she would leave you if she knew how you really think. It's fairly pathetic that yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 01:20 AM
-3	Are men more likely to accept a woman’s more promiscuous past if he’s had less experience? Women aren't goods, they're human beings. The term "second hand" doesn't apply to human beings since you can't own a person. You can continue having sex your whole life if you want to, there's no point where you are "used up".	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/26 01:11 PM
-4	Why are Red Pillers so obsessed with status? You're using a dishonest technique I see a lot of men on this sub use. You make an outrageous claim that's obviously wrong to anyone with a brain, and when called out, you change it to a much softer version as if that's what you meant all along. The following two sentences by you are not the same: Women are obsessed with money and status. women generally care about a man's money and we can see the affect status has I won't be responding to you anymore on this topic as it's clear you are not open…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 01:38 PM
2	Why are Red Pillers so obsessed with status? Well I've been hit on by redpill guys so I clearly am. Wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 01:16 PM
-3	Why are Red Pillers so obsessed with status? Another woman that thinks because a generalization doesn't include her that makes it not generally true, shocker Another "manosphere" guy who claims things about women and then declares every woman who doesn't fit his narrative is an "exception to the rule". If there are more exceptions to your rule than those that fit your rule, it's not actually a rule, just your biased opinions. That maybe the group that is about dating women is promoting something that helps in dating women.... basic logic h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 01:13 PM
-10	Why are Red Pillers so obsessed with status? Except women are not. For example I'm a woman and definitely not obsessed with money and status. So you probably mean some women are, but then some men are too e.g redpill men as pointed out in this post. So what point are you trying to make exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 01:04 PM
9	Women complain about men lacking commitment, yet society allows women to always have one foot out the door while putting all the risk on men if they do commit Why aren't you supportive of changes in laws that would prevent men from being financially abused? Why would you be in favour of laws that prevent men only from being financially abused? Women get financially abused too, shouldn't the laws protect everyone from it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/25 09:54 PM
9	Women complain about men lacking commitment, yet society allows women to always have one foot out the door while putting all the risk on men if they do commit The reality is that women are hypergamous. You definitely don't know the meaning of the word "hypergamous". If you did, you wouldn't have written this statement. Honestly getting sick of men here constantly stating that women are hypergamous, I see no evidence of that, can you provide evidence that they are? No, of course you can't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/25 09:49 PM
–	The red pill is driving women away from men and is central to why modern dating sucks Why not answer my question? What is it about men getting in shape, working on their wardrobe, the social skills, becoming more outgoing that you find so threatening? I don't find anything about that threatening. That's another thing you just made up in your head based on literally nothing. You seem to live in a fantasyland you've built in your own head. If I knew you personally I'd be embarrassed for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/25 09:25 PM
–	The red pill is driving women away from men and is central to why modern dating sucks Nope. I've even met redpill men and while they make a big show of "I don't have to be nice to women to get them, I just snap my fingers and they come running", the frantic desperation oozes from them and I've never actually seen one of them pull a woman. You are clearly either lying or dumb though, like it's not possible you really believe women want men to reject redpill so that women can go back to abusing men. It's hilarious if you have somehow convinced yourself this is true. But I don't thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/25 09:12 PM
–	The red pill is driving women away from men and is central to why modern dating sucks This is the most ridiculous comment I've read in a long time. There's no way you actually believe what you wrote here, you can't possibly be that dumb.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/25 08:44 PM
–	There is very little reason to believe unattractive guys will be good partners You are correct. But, many guys on this sub say that an attractive guy will treat women terribly and an unattractive guy, if given a chance by a woman, will be so grateful that he will treat her really well. Which is obviously bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/25 02:00 PM
–	Women want to date confident charismatic alpha males but think that men who listen to alpha male stuff are misogynist. Those podcasts talk about unflattering aspects of a womans nature, to which they feel theyre being hated on. Incorrect. They talk about untrue aspects of women's nature. But actually it's not even untrue, it's that they take aspects of human nature that are not good but are done by some people and pretend that they are done by only women and/or by the majority of women. It's dishonest, and hateful towards women so of course women feel hated on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/25 09:26 PM
–	The problem with many women here Unattractive men barely get chances with women, so why abusing them and turn them away? Makes no sense It makes no logical sense, but humans don't generally operate using logic. A lot of guys on this sub seem to have this weird idea that a less attractive man will be so delighted to be with a woman that he will treat her amazingly well but that just isn't true. I'm on the older side and have had several relationships in my life and I can tell you straight up, anyone can turn out to be abusive, y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/25 12:01 PM
3	Women way overestimate their value and they get burned for it. Why? hypergamy, most women going after the top 10%, a known fact. You should've told us we were dealing with someone who doesn't even know what the word "fact" means. You shouldn't be posting and arguing if you don't even know the basics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 10:09 PM
–	"Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way" Not talking to someone doesn't somehow translate to "I hate you". And I never said it does? It's just that it's always the old and unattractive women who try and talk to me. Very rarely do the young attractive ones speak to me. What's wrong with talking to the old and unattractive women? They might be very interesting, have great stories etc. And why don't you make any effort to talk to any women? Do you just not talk to anyone unless they make the first move? And are you the same with men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 07:45 PM
27	CMV: Western men need to take accountability for the terrible behavior of many western women Why would we want to marginalise and repress feminism? That's crazy. No thanks to that. Misandry sure, but we haven't even managed to get rid of misogyny yet and that's a much much bigger problem, so not too concerned about misandry right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 07:42 PM
–	"Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way" I don't talk to women at all unless I have to at work. There's another clue. See, we all do it all the time, often unconsciously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 07:25 PM
–	"Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way" It's actually a classic for redpillers and "manosphere" guys, we've heard it many times on this sub. Some version of "Yeah I don't respect women or consider them as people but I never say that out loud so they can't know that". This can be true for psychopaths but is rare for regular people. You're unconsciously letting out clues about yourself all the time. We all are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 07:13 PM
–	"Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way" being friends with women is just a consolation prize. This one sentence sums up why you struggle with dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/25 06:55 PM
4	The best thing about modern world is that as a woman I can choose to have a job that pays me Seriously, I'm saying good night to you now. Please, read more and post less. You'll be glad you did, you're just embarrassing yourself here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 07:15 PM
6	The best thing about modern world is that as a woman I can choose to have a job that pays me I knew you wouldn't have an argument against what I said. But it would be much more impressive if you admitted that and said you were planning to reflect and learn more about the subject. Instead, you quoted one of my sentences back to me? Weird. And disappointing. I hope you can do better in the future. Talk less, think more. Post less, read more. Best of luck!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 07:02 PM
5	The best thing about modern world is that as a woman I can choose to have a job that pays me Dude, nothing I said there was in the vein of life being tough for women but easy for men. It's pathetic that you went to that because you couldn't refute what I wrote. I was replying to your assertion that women could always work and so there was nothing to fix for women in society. It's obvious you are much younger than me since you are so unaware of history. I would suggest reading and learning more instead of posting online about things you know nothing about. By the way, I do not have any k…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 06:15 PM
4	The best thing about modern world is that as a woman I can choose to have a job that pays me Not quite. I'll give you an example. I had a grand aunt who worked as a teacher her whole life ( 1920's to 1980's) and remained unmarried. She was able to do this because her family was middle class and had the money to send her to college to get her degree. They also were willing to spend that money on her, certainly not every woman who wanted that life was in a similar position. So, she had her own house and paid her own bills and lived without a husband and kids because of her class privilege…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 05:36 PM
7	The best thing about modern world is that as a woman I can choose to have a job that pays me The rate of singledom among women below 30 is 30% and below 45 is 15%. If women were so keen on "going it on their own", you would think more of them would be actually doing it. The rate of cohabitation has actually risen among gen Zers, again if singledom was something most women were keen on more of them would actually be doing it. Women have never suggested that all women want to be single. It's that the women who want to be single (and/or child free) can be, and can earn a decent wage to fun…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 05:09 PM
3	Women are allowed to accept they're not attractive. The conversation comes up often in new relationships It really doesn't. It has never come up in any of the relationships I've been in anyway. men are more likely to be bothered by a woman’s n-count than vice versa. Insecure losers sure, but they are not very attractive to women generally so I wouldn't worry about it. If you’re saying he won’t know about her n-count because he wasn’t there, I mean, I guess you’re right. But at that point the problem is moreso that he doesn’t trust a word she says…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/25 07:48 PM
1	Would you be more comfortable in a world where strict social and gender norms, roles, and hierarchies exist over a world where there’s more freedom from gender roles for all people? There was no huge resistance from men against women's rights. Lmao. Not very educated are you? And I was talking only about beauty stadards. So what? It doesn't matter what the topic is. If you want to make major societal changes you are going to get resistance from some groups of people. You can either continue fighting because you believe in it or you can give up because it's "too hard". Go ahead, tell women on this sub what they suppose to be attracted to Why would I do that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/25 07:43 PM
7	Women are allowed to accept they're not attractive. When trying to settle down the high n-count woman is much more likely to encounter men bothered by the n-count, No, she isn't. And unless they've literally been close friends or something all their lives he will literally not even know how many people she has slept with in the past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/25 07:32 PM
2	Would you be more comfortable in a world where strict social and gender norms, roles, and hierarchies exist over a world where there’s more freedom from gender roles for all people? And there will be a huge resistance from women There was a huge resistance from men when feminists were fighting for women's rights. No wonder men are making so little headway if they're afraid of resistance from women. Pathetic really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/25 07:27 PM
3	I think many women actually think it’s immoral to NOT be hypergamous That's not at all what it means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/25 07:15 PM
2	I think many women actually think it’s immoral to NOT be hypergamous Your use of the word "hypergamous" in this sentence makes no sense. What do you think that word means?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/25 07:13 PM
20	Why do women expect traditionalism in relationships? Why do women expect traditionalism in relationships? We don't. Oh wait, are you talking about some particular women here? Well I can't answer for them, none of the women I know are like that. It's like they want to have their cake and eat it too. Welcome to humanity! You're going to hate it here. What you have to realise is that we as a society have decided that everyone should be treated equally with the same rights and opportunities. This includes people you don't like and don't agree with. Wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/25 09:04 AM
8	Men need to stop being logical This is the biggest hindering men face. Lol, not as many men as you think face this problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/25 07:01 PM
0	Why it's not "paranoia" when men worry about being taken advantage of financially Getting rid of gender roles for women doesn't get rid of gender roles for men. It absolutely did. Nowadays a man is not expected to be the sole earner in the family and provide for not only the children but also the woman. Women are now bringing in money to the household also, which frees men from their "gender role" of being the sole provider. Women still overwhelmingly expect a man to be a provider. Overwhelmingly? No! Are there still women who expect their man to be the provider? Sure, but th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/25 01:51 AM
4	Why it's not "paranoia" when men worry about being taken advantage of financially Except they are not. Because a man getting married or getting into a relationship in this day and age in a western country will not be getting with a woman who doesn't earn money. He will not be getting with a woman who will stop working and earning money as soon as she is married and expect the man to pay for her life. She will be earning money also. Are you disagreeing with this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/25 01:25 AM
15	Why it's not "paranoia" when men worry about being taken advantage of financially I had an ex who would push back whenever I asked her to pay her share of the bills Ok. And I had an ex who constantly tried to manipulate me into paying a higher proportion of the bills, even though we earned about the same and even during a period of time where he was earning more than me. Does my anecdote cancel out your anecdote? men are usually expected to shoulder the majority of financial responsibility Not in western countries in 2025, for people under the age of 60 anyway In divorce, if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/25 12:26 AM
0	Are alpha widows becoming more common? I don't understand why the term is belittling? Sure you do. I am just curious if it's becoming more common No because it's not a thing, just redpill nonsense m	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/25 07:32 AM
7	Are alpha widows becoming more common? No, I'm laughing at how seriously some of you take this stuff, as if it was real, when it's all actually nonsense. You come across as another one that takes it seriously and has totally bought into the nonsense. And what exactly is the message? That some women don't find a man they are happy to marry and settle down with so they stay single. So what? Why the need to belittle them and give them ridiculous names like "alpha widow"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/25 07:57 PM
3	Are alpha widows becoming more common? Sounds like you take this stuff very seriously. You do realise there's no such thing as "alpha" in humans right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/25 07:47 PM
3	Men are not able to be providers anymore due to capitalism You really seem to be under the impression that what humans did in the past somehow defines us and means that anything we do differently is an aberration of some kind, and that means we can't change and evolve in the future? Just because something existed consistently across human history does not mean we are bound to it forever. Sorry if you don't like anecdotal evidence but my experience in life tells me that men are not "providers" naturally. They have been taught to believe they are and many…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 10:21 PM
13	Men are not able to be providers anymore due to capitalism Female contributions and male contributions co-evolved as part of a cooperative system. So isn't this what we are seeing now with both men and women providing monetary income, home making and child rearing in a variety of combinations depending on the couple? So is it really "male and female contributions as part of a cooperative system" that's hardwired? Rather than the weird sexist misogynist belief of man providing woman receiving said provision that you are claiming is hardwired?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 10:06 PM
3	Men are not able to be providers anymore due to capitalism All you really seem to be saying here is "it's not exactly hardwired, but when you look into it it's kinda really hardwired". Given how many women I know personally and know of who are not being "provided for" by a man, I'm confident that it's not "hardwired". The fact that there are still some men who wish they could be the provider (likely because that would make them feel "in charge") is more likely based on culture and how they were raised. There is no "hardwiring", and evolution is an ongoi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 09:56 PM
0	Men are not able to be providers anymore due to capitalism Huge bit of redpill culture surrounds the idea that "women only want rich men!1!!1 women are gold digging whores!1!1!!". Yeah but redpill guys are misogynist idiots, trying to blame women for everything that's wrong in their own lives. Their frustrations have come from their inability to be responsible for their own lives and their belief that they should be able to control women to get what they want. I'm not speaking for every individual, but a general pattern The general pattern with humans i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 09:47 PM
3	Men are not able to be providers anymore due to capitalism When you say "hardwiring", what are you basing that on exactly? Like just because humans do something in a certain way for a period of time doesn't make it "hardwired". A big part of what has made humans such a successful species is our adaptability. we see women always wanting to be with a rich guy No we don't, that's in your head.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 09:32 PM
2	Men are not able to be providers anymore due to capitalism Men are not able to be providers anymore I don't think I care. I'm perfectly capable of providing for myself. Is there a reason you think we should care?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 09:28 PM
4	Can a gold digger be a feminist? Thanks for your question. I earn my own money and always have, I don't want a man to provide for me. Signed, a feminist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/25 12:00 PM
1	A large amount of women who want LTRs don’t actually like them in practice This is certainly a theory, that you came up with. However, you didn't back it up with any evidence, so why should we believe it? It's just as likely that a particular woman was being treated badly by her ex, or taken for granted and that's why she moved on, as it is that she just moved on for no real reason, just "making up reasons" as you say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/25 10:52 PM
7	A large amount of women who want LTRs don’t actually like them in practice This is certainly a theory, that you came up with. However, you didn't back it up with any evidence, so why should we believe it? It's just as likely that a particular woman was being treated badly by her ex, or taken for granted and that's why she moved on, as it is that she just moved on for no real reason, just "making up reasons" as you say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/25 10:51 PM
13	If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it. If women are hypergamous But since women are not hypergamous... what do you expect people to debate here? And no, wanting to date someone good looking is not hypergamy. Wanting to date someone you are attracted to is not hypergamy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/25 09:45 PM
5	CMV: Let's talk about this topic. Men are not ecpected to take on all the responsibilities, they are not ecpected to work themselves to exhaustion nor are they expected to run the household. This is your imagination talking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/25 11:36 PM
1	People pick and choose when women aren't a monolith. OP I think it's important to make you aware that men and women are the same species.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 06:04 PM
27	Genuine Passport bros get too much hate The generalisation of all men who go overseas is an outdated stereotype. OP have you been overseas? Have you met any of these guys? I spent several years living in an Asian country and met enough of them to know that they generally have some combination of the following: 1. Unable to hold down a job for long. 2. Poor social skills. 3. Anger issues. 4. Failure to launch syndrome. Basically they are children who refuse to grow up and take responsibility for themselves but they still want the sex, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 10:25 AM
2	On OLD women definitely privilege the "alpha male" type of guy Sure, except you said that women are able to tell a guy is abusive or a con man when he is not good looking but unable to when he is super good looking. This implies that all the abusers and con men who are with a woman are super good looking since the non good looking ones wouldn't manage to get in a relationship. Your logic is stupid of course but if it were true that's what it would mean 🤷	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/25 08:11 PM
2	On OLD women definitely privilege the "alpha male" type of guy Wait, do you think that abusers and con men are all "above average looking"? Jesus no, they come in all types of packages. Staying away from good looking men does not make a woman safer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/25 06:53 PM
3	How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism? If it has been years I would question the type of people you surround yourself with. I know loads of women like that. But then again I make an effort to surround myself with decent people. And a decent person would never expect another person to fund their life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 05:19 PM
11	Do (some) women realize what going after masculine men means? the trend I see is women dating "up" in terms of social status and what their partner can provide. No. Based on statistics (and you should know this as it's been discussed numerous times in this sub, and the statistics have been shown), most people date and marry within their own socioeconomic group. You are not seeing a trend that doesn't exist. I would hazard a guess that you are reading this from "redpill" and "manosphere" guys online, and not actually seeing it. Also... It's not solely tied …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/25 08:41 PM
11	Do (some) women realize what going after masculine men means? Explain the obsession with height and money a lot of women have in the modern era Why on earth would I attempt to explain other women's preferences in men? I don't have an obsession with height or money and neither do any of the women I know. We are just normal women living our lives and most are in long term relationships or marriage with a man who is not super tall and not rich.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/25 08:36 PM
45	Do (some) women realize what going after masculine men means? I'm so sick of reading the word "hypergamy" every day in this sub. No, a woman being attracted to a good looking man is not hypergamy. At least learn what words mean before you use them to try to sound smart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/25 08:15 PM
2	You can’t expect women to take men’s issues seriously, when you point out inequities but never go into the context of it I hope I make my point clear. You certainly made your immaturity clear. Every response you've given here is just the epitome of childish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/25 10:22 PM
4	Our understanding of traditional gender roles is entirely based off 50s nostalgia I wouldn't describe my job as something that helps the greater good, but I still wouldn't give it up. I would never give up my ability to pay my bills and live independently for anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/25 08:00 PM
3	Our understanding of traditional gender roles is entirely based off 50s nostalgia Same	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/25 07:39 PM
6	Our understanding of traditional gender roles is entirely based off 50s nostalgia So? It's just a book.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/25 06:50 PM
10	Our understanding of traditional gender roles is entirely based off 50s nostalgia someone dedicated to keeping the house tidy. Jesus, being "dedicated to keeping the house tidy" would be my worst nightmare. I mean, I have a brain. Why do so many men believe women have nothing going on in their head and should be happy with meaningless drudgery?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/25 06:35 PM
2	Women aren’t harder to date; this generation of women have built themselves up more and aren’t willing to date a man that doesn’t do the same To think we’re the same is like thinking cats and dogs are the same. Do you think cats and dogs are the same species? Cats are the females, dogs are the males? Lol!!! You do know that men and women are the same species right, therefore are more alike than different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/25 09:02 PM
5	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with So? Being divorced doesn't prevent you from being a parent to your children. Did you think it does?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 07:15 PM
7	All Women Are Essentially Sex Workers” — Tate’s Harsh Truth, Explained I have facts to prove my argument Your argument that women only enjoy sex with an extreme minority of the best of the best men, while lying about it to the rest of men Great, show us your facts then. while all you have are accusations of misogyny and ad homs Except I didn't accuse you of being misogynistic, no need since the misogyny is very apparent. I also didn't use any ad hominens, pointing out that your comment was childish is not one. Only a microscopic minority of men are provably sexuall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 12:18 PM
9	All Women Are Essentially Sex Workers” — Tate’s Harsh Truth, Explained Your childish opinion doesn't prove anyone right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 10:59 AM
–	Men are "bad" claim it goes with basic logic that in order to be abusive towards women you have to get women attracted to you first. Well, it goes with basic logic that in order to abuse someone, you have to be in some form of relationship with them. When it comes to romantic relationships, presumably the two people involved are attracted to each other, yes. This says nothing about good looking men being more likely to be abusive or less good looking men being more likely to treat their partner well. See the flaw i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:33 PM
–	Men are "bad" claim If it's "literally proven" then show us the proof! (We all know you can't as it doesn't exist).	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:04 PM
8	It's not offensive to ask for dna test So show us the numbers from an american state that shows paternity fraud has been rising over the last number of years. I'll wait.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 07:27 AM
6	It's not offensive to ask for dna test Nothing in this comment suggests that rates are "rising". Can you clarify - is it that you believe the rates are higher now than they were 10 years ago? Like, rising compared to what? And do you have any evidence to support this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 07:18 AM
8	It's not offensive to ask for dna test Cases of paternity frauds are rising. What's your evidence for this? maybe more testing More testing doesn't increase the amount of paternity fraud happening.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 07:00 AM
10	It's not offensive to ask for dna test Who says it's rising?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 06:52 AM
10	One of the biggest problems in dating is men think they want easy sex. Jesus christ dude, you've really bought into it huh? I feel second hand embarrassment for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/25 09:23 PM
6	Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by them You're now doing the exact thing I'm talking about. I have seen where they will hire the girl just out of college, then eighteen months later she's been promoted to management over people who had been there years. I've seen the same thing, with both men and women who are smart, driven and ambitious. And I've seen lots of men and women in a job for years without getting promoted. she was a DEI pick See, you're assuming this because it rubs you the wrong way to see a woman do better than you. Woul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 01:01 PM
2	Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by them It's wrong to just assume that a woman is out-pacing a man because of a handout or favoritism and not based on her work ethic alone. Correct. It's actually sexist to assume that. I wonder how they would find out she was out-pacing them The numbers are obvious to everyone. well, sometimes women are the recipient of special treatment on the job. No, in this job there is no special treatment that can be given to improve performance. And it sure is interesting how the mediocre guys never suggest spe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 09:07 AM
21	Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by them Men are not wired nor are we socialised to view women as competitors Lmao this must explain why in my job any time a woman is performing better than most of the men, the men scramble to come up with "reasons" why. A common one is that she must have been given extra help in some way by management. She wasn't given any extra help and they have no proof, not even specifics of what that help might look like, but they have it so ingrained in their psyche that men are better than women they just can't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:23 PM
–	Women hold onto the concept of male privilege because they are deeply attached to feeling lesser than men. Your deeply ingrained misogyny makes you not worth listening to. I think we need to be more strict with women and give them hard guidance, like a parent would to their rebellious child. You should lead with this on every date you go on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 09:16 AM
9	Women don't care if men can get sex, Men don't care if women can abortions If women get the option to correct a mistake pregnancy, men should too. A "paper abortion" does nothing to correct a mistake pregnancy, it doesn't affect the pregnancy at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/25 10:31 PM
2	I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standards As a man born extremely ugly, being told I'm not good enough because I'm not Henry Cavill Nobody in your whole life has told you that you are not good enough because you're not Henry Cavill. Stop making shit up!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/25 08:08 AM
3	"Everything is misogyny" is confirmation bias, not reality. The reality would be admitting there is just as much misandry as misogyny. Except there is not as much misandry as misogyny, we know this from the treatment of men and women over many many years. History shows us the deep misogyny in our society, which has not gone away; we still regularly hear men claim that women are less logical than men, less intelligent than men, less suited to leadership etc etc. Women are still being treated as less than in a variety of ways, Jen are not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 08:32 AM
12	Females, you're not single because a lack of quality men. Its because you're not pretty enough to get a rich one. females are never told to look in the mirror and give themselves an honest critique. OP have you never been told to look in the mirror and give yourself an honest critique? Because that's way overdue for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/25 08:22 PM
25	Orgasm Big time. He actually wrote that men often have no clear idea if their partner is even enjoying it?!?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/25 12:26 PM
13	Men who were clear and consistent about not wanting kids are no morally different than sperm donors to me. I made sure I could never get anyone pregnant after that. Wouldn't the smart thing have been to make sure you couldn't get anyone pregnant before that? Like why wait until you had two kids before taking responsibility for your life?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/25 11:58 AM
8	I think there needs to be reforms in the paternity system If you're just going to pretend you can't understand what I'm saying then there's no point to continuing this conversation, have a good day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/25 10:19 AM
11	I think there needs to be reforms in the paternity system You're missing the point here. Just because I ejaculated doesn't explicitly mean I wanted a child. Of course, but it means you explicitly accepted that a pregnancy could occur, and unless you are not very smart you know that the pregnancy won't be happening in your body therefore you won't be able to decide what happens with it. If you want to make sure you don't father any children the time to act is when you have control of your own actions. Stating after the fact that you don't want this preg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/25 09:53 AM
17	I think there needs to be reforms in the paternity system I don’t think men SHOULD be expected, and/or require by law, to pay or contribute to a child that they explicitly state they don’t want. When you ejaculate inside a woman you are explicitly stating that you accept a pregnancy can happen. Once a pregnancy happens it's now out of your hands because of biology. What you seem to be advocating for is that men should be able to freely ejaculate inside a woman, then if a pregnancy happens he can now "explicitly state" that he doesn't want a child. It's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/25 08:27 AM
7	Women who want a provider don't seem to realise that hes gonna want something in return. she proceeded to prove my point. You seem to have a poor grasp of logic, what more can I say? That one woman's response just does not prove what you are claiming. You can pretend all you like but we both know it's common for women to look for resources from the men they date. Again, you're lacking logic here. You made a claim, you need to prove it. Saying well we both know I'm right does not prove you're right. Why don't you answer my question though? Does the one guy I mentioned prove something…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 10:31 AM
9	Women who want a provider don't seem to realise that hes gonna want something in return. One women in the comments even said she uses money and men paying for dates as a way to filter the And that one woman doesn't tell us anything about "most women" which is what you are claiming. Would you believe when I was younger I dated a guy who wanted to sit at home playing video games all day and expected me to work and pay the bills. That must mean that most men are looking to get resources from women, right? I mean, I'm using your logic here. Does your logic only apply to your own biases …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 10:21 AM
14	Women who want a provider don't seem to realise that hes gonna want something in return. Well then part of this for men is also getting resources from the woman in some way. In the past the man would provide resources in the form of money and the woman would provide resources in the form of labour (cooking, cleaning, birthing, childrearing, 24/7 labour basically). Times have changed and women now don't need men to provide all the money, people now can set their own terms for a relationship. Sure there are some women who still want the man to provide all the money (and even some men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 10:05 AM
18	Women who want a provider don't seem to realise that hes gonna want something in return. most women are too focused on getting resources and material things from men Nah, just because other guys online keep telling you this doesn't make it true. Sorry that you're so easily taken in. Most women are in fact focused on studying, working, building a career, having a romantic relationship and possibly kids, not on extracting resources from men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 09:47 AM
13	The common misconception among women. We need to get over it as soon as possible to avoid unnecessary repeated arguments. OP your post reads like you're a 12 year old whose parents finally let him have access to the internet. And you went straight to the "redpill" stuff didn't you, to read up on what the other boys at school are talking about so you can fit in. This is an opportunity for you to realise that it's a bad move to believe everything you read without evidence. People need to employ critical thinking to navigate the online world safely. Critical thinking is a skill developed with practice like all skills …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/25 08:13 AM
6	Philophobia is every man's destiny - and curse - as a consequence of daring to trust women. I believe the remedy to this is to never fully trust women, just as women never fully trust men. Instead, take calculated risks. Be aware of the pitfalls, and plan accordingly: just as women do. You literally would though. Women have in group bias. Most of you agree with eachother. Always gassing eachother up. If I said what I just said with a different flair you would have no problems with it. Bullshit. I have disagreed with many people in my life, lots of those were women. Women do not always agree with each other. I actually think now that you're probably trolling, this is such a stupid take. There are women who are in relationships with men out of their league and then there are wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 10:05 PM
8	Philophobia is every man's destiny - and curse - as a consequence of daring to trust women. I believe the remedy to this is to never fully trust women, just as women never fully trust men. Instead, take calculated risks. Be aware of the pitfalls, and plan accordingly: just as women do. If I was a woman you would agree with me. No, I am disagreeing with what you are actually saying. I wouldn't suddenly agree if you were a woman instead of a man. There are many things that can disqualify a man from ever having a relationship. For women it's almost guaranteed that they will meet someone because men have diverse standards But, for every (heterosexual) woman who is in a relationship, there is also a man in a relationship. Y'know, maths! Now you're probably going to rant something a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 09:38 PM
15	Philophobia is every man's destiny - and curse - as a consequence of daring to trust women. I believe the remedy to this is to never fully trust women, just as women never fully trust men. Instead, take calculated risks. Be aware of the pitfalls, and plan accordingly: just as women do. The origin of the term is men noticing the fact that whenever women break off a relationship they very quickly hookup with a "friend" who just so happened to be - and conveniently so - sitting on the sidelines all along, ready to catch her. So either women are astronomically lucky all the time, or they're just monkey branching. Which do you think is the more likely explanation? I already know what the most likely explanation is. It's why every guy I have broken up with in my life his first quest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 09:23 PM
17	Philophobia is every man's destiny - and curse - as a consequence of daring to trust women. I believe the remedy to this is to never fully trust women, just as women never fully trust men. Instead, take calculated risks. Be aware of the pitfalls, and plan accordingly: just as women do. So, you stated: "Women can't love the same way men can". I asked you how do women love and how do men love,in your mind, and you responded with: It is probably based on the difference in what men and women love. Men and women don't love different things, they both love another person. Women love looks and height and status. If you were a woman I would tell you to speak for yourself and not me or other women. But since you're a man I'm telling you that you don't get to speak for me or any other w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 09:03 PM
13	Philophobia is every man's destiny - and curse - as a consequence of daring to trust women. I believe the remedy to this is to never fully trust women, just as women never fully trust men. Instead, take calculated risks. Be aware of the pitfalls, and plan accordingly: just as women do. Women can't love the same way men can What does this mean specifically? Like, in your mind, how do men love and how do women love and what's the difference?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 08:37 PM
21	Philophobia is every man's destiny - and curse - as a consequence of daring to trust women. I believe the remedy to this is to never fully trust women, just as women never fully trust men. Instead, take calculated risks. Be aware of the pitfalls, and plan accordingly: just as women do. You're all aware of monkey-branching. I'm aware it's something men tell themselves when a woman breaks up with him. Saves him from ever having to think he might not have been the perfect partner. I believe the best way to move forward is to wise up to what women are doing. Admit that they do not love the way we love, that their notions and concepts of romance and love are completely alien and foreign to ours Um, you do realise we are the same species right? Being a hollow-man is not a curse, it'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 08:19 PM
–	Being able to have sex at any time is still a privilege. Why exactly do you keep answering every comment with the line "I'm not talking about rape" which has nothing to do with the comments you're replying to. None of them suggested in any way that you're talking about rape. Dumb and useless post if you won't engage in good faith with the commenters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 05:53 PM
0	Having a terrible baby mama is not an excuse to abandon one’s kids. Wanting to be a father when convenient still makes the guy a bad father. Ok, there were not "many more" (your exact words), "deadbeat moms or worse". You probably forgot a whole world exists outside the US and we can actually compare a time with legal abortion and a time without it and see this clearly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/25 01:42 PM
3	Having a terrible baby mama is not an excuse to abandon one’s kids. Wanting to be a father when convenient still makes the guy a bad father. You’ll see many more deadbeat moms or worse if abortion is not legal. Nonsense. Abortion was illegal in my country up until 2018 and we didn't see loads of "deadbeat moms or worse".	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/25 01:18 PM
2	Blue Pill Lies: Non-Custodial Fathers and Child Support When did I say women cant or dont earn money? You certainly implied that married women don't earn money when you suggested that the majority of marriages consist of a male breadwinner and female home maker. And when you said that men lose half their stuff in a divorce, which implies that only men own anything in a marriage. Mostly men work more and earn more while women work less Now you're doing that thing called moving the goalposts. There's a huge difference between "man works earns money, wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 07:24 PM
5	Blue Pill Lies: Non-Custodial Fathers and Child Support Aw sounds like you're sad that you got called out for your dumb comment. I no longer think you live in a backwards country, I think your problem is you spend all your time online listening to the lies made up by manosphere guys. Welcome to the real world where women own money and assets too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 01:57 PM
5	Blue Pill Lies: Non-Custodial Fathers and Child Support What backwards country do you live in where the vast majority of marriages consist of a male provider and female homemaker? Yikes. That hasn't been true here in my country since the 1980's. I don't know one woman under the age of 60 who doesn't work for money. But even in the scenario you are describing the marital assets belong to both of them, so it's fair to give half each on divorce. If you don't like sharing you should live alone and definitely don't have kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 01:44 PM
4	Blue Pill Lies: Non-Custodial Fathers and Child Support What makes you so sure the man owns everything? Definitely not true among the people I know. Was more likely years ago but not now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 01:12 PM
4	Blue Pill Lies: Non-Custodial Fathers and Child Support Maybe beacuse the number they need to pay is ridiculus The amount the custodial parent is paying for the kids is most likely higher so what are you on about? divorce where woman gets half of everything? And the man gets half of everything, that's fair isn't it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 11:44 AM
32	What is the difference between a guy women make wait for sex and a guy guy that gets it shortly after you first meet? You're assuming the difference is in the guy, whereas I think the difference is in the woman. Some women if they are sexually attracted to a guy will generally sleep with him early in the relationship. Some women will always wait a while until she gets to know the guy better. Of course, we're talking about humans so there are going to be outliers who sometimes sleep with the guy quickly and sometimes wait longer, but that's still more likely to be due to herself and not the guy. Women are genera…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/25 08:44 PM
15	How turned off would you be if before sex, he pulled out a consent form? I have no idea what you mean by this comment. Could you explain?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/25 12:06 AM
9	How turned off would you be if before sex, he pulled out a consent form? you don’t know if he’s been falsely accused in the past to warrant that reaction or not. I also don't know if he's been rightly accused in the past either. But him asking me to sign a form to waive my consent for the next few hours or whatever would be a major red flag that is more likely to mean he will not stop if I ask him to, since he has a form I signed in advance to say I would consent to it. But consent happens in the moment and can be revoked at any time even during the act, so signing t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 11:59 PM
32	How turned off would you be if before sex, he pulled out a consent form? If a woman knows she’s documented giving consent, she likely wouldn’t even accuse the man. Don't pretend you can't see how this could allow men to rape women knowing they have a (previously to the act) signature to say she consents to it. Do you not understand that consent happens in the moment and is not something you can sign away in advance?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 11:45 PM
14	How turned off would you be if before sex, he pulled out a consent form? the behaviors and reactions leading up to the act all assure you he isn’t a bad person. In that case, the behaviours and reactions leading up to the act would assure the man that the woman isn't a bad person. Right? He’s simply terrified at the potential of getting falsely accused. That's a ridiculous thing to be "terrified" of. Obviously it can happen but the chances are slim and honestly if he's that terrified he should probably refrain from having sex with women, rather than getting her to si…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 11:40 PM
10	How turned off would you be if before sex, he pulled out a consent form? How turned off would you be if before sex, he pulled out a consent form? There's no way I would sign one. If he can't tell by my behaviour and reactions how turned on I am, same as I can tell from his behaviour and reactions how turned on he is, and needs a form signed, I wouldn't stick around for it. OP, you must be able to see the numerous issues that could arise from this, so why on earth would any woman sign it? It's not even about being turned off, it's about the possible implications the g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 11:25 PM
0	Q4M: "Women are too picky", but also "I don't want to feel like I was settled for". Which one is it? Fair enough, I didn't spot that. You two are playing the same game back and forth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/25 04:59 PM
–	Q4M: "Women are too picky", but also "I don't want to feel like I was settled for". Which one is it? It's weird how you call men "men" but call women "females". Why deliberately deviate from the correct word eh? And you talk about logical consistency 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/25 04:46 PM
8	women are screwing themselves over by supporting feminism No, we read it, and the ideas presented are in fact wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/25 03:35 PM
11	women are screwing themselves over by supporting feminism Women have always had to work, all humans have to work in some way. The difference now is: Women can be paid fairly for their work Women can choose what type of work they do and are not limited to two or three choices as they were in the past. Women can choose to not have kids, or limit to one or two kids, so they don't have to give up their career completely to become a parent, you know, like men have always been able to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/25 02:43 PM
20	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? I mean there does seem to be laws against men even trying to date women. There aren't any, unless you are going to tell us which laws you are referring to. No? Didn't think so. Men risk jail time asking a girl for coffee No they don't. Melodramatic much?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 09:02 PM
33	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? Wait, is there a law I don't know about that prevents "fat women" from trying to date whoever they want but doesn't apply to anyone else? They assume that all men are desperate so date way outside of your league. The redpill guys on this sub are constantly telling us that this is the case, that women get to choose who they date but men have to take whoever they can get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 08:33 PM
3	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false I do not claim that all women are dumb or evil Don't backtrack now. Your exact words were: I know 8 year olds who could see through this logic but for whatever reason I’ve never met a grown woman who sees the problem with it. I genuinely don’t know if women are dumb or manipulative Don't pretend that you only have a problem with specific women, it's obvious from your writing that you don't think much of women in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 03:35 PM
7	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false The reason I go so far as to insult their intelligence (not completely I also made way for the possibility that they’re not dumb just evil) Wow, thanks for allowing the option that all women may not be dumb, some of them are just evil. Very generous of you. They do not stop at the mere thought that their worldview is likely to be true, they state it as concluded fact. And redpill guys state nonsense like "hypergamy is female nature" as concluded fact. Sort yourself out first. Look, I'm a woman, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 02:36 PM
2	Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues. Men were hypergamous! lol hence a man looking to bag a rich man's daughter being a plot point in a lot of old lit. Very true! So really you could say it's human nature, and just like all human traits, some people have it and some don't. So these guys claiming that all women are hypergamous and men are not are just steeped in their hatred of women, no shock there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 05:06 PM
2	Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues. Hate to break it to you sunshine but all women do this, even if they are well off. They will always look for a man who is equal or better because it feels more natural. There you go again, claiming this as a fact when it's just something made up by the "manosphere" with no proof. Your belief that all women do it is not proof of anything "sunshine". And no, women today are not "oppressed". And you're unable to understand what you read, what a surprise!	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 04:57 PM
7	Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues. "The tendency of women to marry people who are more successful or have a higher social status is known as hypergamy. This phenomenon is observed across many societies." Jesus it's hard sometimes to argue with people who are too dumb to understand. Nobody is saying that hypergamy doesn't exist as a phenomenon. Just that it isn't "female nature" like you lot have decided it is without proof. If men were the ones who were oppressed in the past, couldn't have their own careers or control their own m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 04:14 PM
0	Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues. Hilarious dude 😂😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 04:11 PM
33	Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues. But I do think now that women and their hypergamous nature really does contribute to a lot of men's issues in subtle, insidious ways. You know I'm sick of seeing the term "women's hypergamous nature" all over this sub as if it's something we have all agreed on when we absolutely haven't. First, you will need to prove to me that hypergamy is in my nature somehow, even though I am not hypergamous and never have been. Neither are any of my friends. However, I have known some hypergamous women over …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 01:39 PM
–	Women are so quick to ask for money I could tell you all my anecdotes of guys expecting me to pay for them etc, but what's the point? This is just another "women bad" post. We get it, you respect men and don't respect women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 10:03 AM
1	How are young men being disenfranchised? Red pill says good looking guys CAN AFFORD to treat women like shit. Because they are already wanted. How is this different from how good looking women can afford to treat men like shit? Because they are already wanted. Why does the "redpill" frame it as a failing of women to be attracted to good looking guys, yet somehow it's not a failing of men to be attracted to good looking women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 06:48 PM
-1	How are young men being disenfranchised? Blue pill will say something generic like "Looks don't matter it's all about personality". Nah. They say something like"looks are not the only thing that matters, personality is important TOO". Can you see the difference between those two sentences. You "redpill" guys have a habit of misrepresenting what others say and then arguing that it's bad or wrong. Kinda pathetic if you ask me, like why not just argue against facts rather than made up strawmen. An average guy will think back in his high s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 06:13 PM
–	I recently ran into a girl who rejected me years ago, the tables have turned I’ve aged well & she looked terrible yet somehow still acted awkward/standoffish as if I should be embarrassed or nervous around her. This perfectly epitomizes TRP in its entirety. I recently ran into a girl who rejected me years ago, the tables have turned I’ve aged well & she looked terrible yet somehow still acted awkward/standoffish as if I should be embarrassed or nervous around her. Didn't she beg you to be with her and then you got to reject her? That's usually part of the rp fantasy. Women’s delûsïon knows no boundaries Based on what? One woman who you have made up stuff for in your head about what she thinks? It’s truly staggering because I am certain she is aware…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/25 11:56 AM
8	Women were treated better in most respects before 3rd wave feminism OP, you've made it very clear throughout this post that you believe, as a woman, you would be happiest marrying a man, becoming his property and being treated like a child with no money of your own, no autonomy or ability to make decisions for yourself or your family. So, you should go right ahead and do that. I'm going to pass though, that's the beauty of feminism, it has brought us to this place where each of us can decide how we want to live our own life. I'll stay here in the modern world wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 02:56 AM
12	Women were treated better in most respects before 3rd wave feminism I am sure your your dad did not rape your mom and your grandpa did not rape your grandma. You have no way to be sure of this about the person you are responding to. You wish it was true or else your opinion is null and void, but wishing something does not equate to being sure of something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 10:52 PM
9	Women were treated better in most respects before 3rd wave feminism It's the perfect vision of male leadership in the family and you never get the sense that June is oppressed. What about the not so perfect version? What about the woman whose husband is too dumb to make a decision, so he uses her "input"" to make a decision, and takes credit for it, and she's supposed to be grateful that as a woman she doesn't have to make difficult decisions because her"leader" husband is shouldering that burden? Is she oppressed now? What about the woman who is married to the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 10:49 PM
–	Without paper abortions there is no equality. Especially under capitalism You're just talking gibberish now, I never claimed anything about why women get abortions, and I don't think it matters, it's because of bodily autonomy that they can. Men don't have an equivalent because they don't carry pregnancies anyway. Now, some of us are off to the pub to celebrate the first night of Christmas holidays, so maybe you can try your insane gotcha on someone else. Peace.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 08:52 PM
–	Without paper abortions there is no equality. Especially under capitalism This doesn't relate to my point in any way. Bodily autonomy means you get to choose what happens to your body. Nobody is going to force anyone to adopt a child?! Are you trying to suggest that women who abort a pregnancy and men who "paper abort" should be forced to adopt a child each? Edit: is the purpose to punish them in some way?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 08:11 PM
–	Without paper abortions there is no equality. Especially under capitalism You are exactly saying that a womens bodily autonomy is more important than a man’s. I have not said that, and in fact I clearly said that everyone's bodily autonomy is equally important. My argument doesn't change just because you decide to read in things that are just not there. I'm starting to think you are just not very smart. Again. If your refuse to pay. You got to jail. Yes, if you refuse to pay your taxes,pay back a loan you took out etc you could risk jail. This applies to men and women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 02:12 PM
–	Without paper abortions there is no equality. Especially under capitalism Your argument makes no sense Sure it does. My comment was clear and logical. Your argument is blinded by your emotions and in fact makes no sense. you are again being sexist by saying that a women’s bodily autonomy is more important than a man. Except nowhere did I say that a woman's bodily autonomy is more important than a man's. You made that part up in your head. Everyone's bodily autonomy is equally important. So called "paper abortion" has nothing to do with bodily autonomy.. That's where y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:50 PM
–	Without paper abortions there is no equality. Especially under capitalism If women are allowed abortions then technically it is sexist to say men should not have the right to paper abortions. No, it's not sexist, "technically" or otherwise.The mistake you are making is equating abortion with what you guys call "paper abortion". They are not even remotely the same thing. One is a medical procedure that should be between the patient and their doctor only, and relates to bodily autonomy. The other is people trying to get out of paying their bills. Everyone has to pay the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 12:38 PM
6	Guys in "female" occupations should lie about their job if they want to succeed in dating Wait, are you saying you go out on dates in a hard hat so you can look the part? 😂😂😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 06:46 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". This is my last message because you are arguing in bad faith here so what's the point? Also what men are controlling you? Where do you live that men are looking and making decisions over your agency? I am confused, cause unless you are in the middle east I don't understand what control has been stripped of you? I didn't suggest for one second that I am currently being controlled by men. My country is a lot more feminist and egalitarian, and therefore more balanced than many others, including the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 02:28 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". Except males have to lead the way in the reverse swing because women want to stay within the popular gp so will vote with whomever the media at the time tells them too. Men are not bound by this. What you are doing here is assigning positive traits to men (they have their own mind, are intelligent enough to weigh up the information and make a good choice) and assigning negative traits to women (they are sheep who don't think for themselves and just naively follow the crowd). It's hate that cause…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 02:21 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". its not to hate women it is just to say if you are not in awesome shape, take care of yourself you will not be desirable to the opposite sex. That simple. Again it keeps getting misconstrued. People who make an effort with their appearance look better and are therfore more attractive to the opposite sex? That's what you are saying here right? Nobody needs redpill to tell them this shockingly obvious fact that everyone already knows. It's not necessary to pretend that women refuse to date men who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 02:13 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". Data is just there to show men the dynamics between the sexes this is pretty irrefutable at this point, and a good majority of men are waking up to it which is why we are seeing a huge shift in mentality. I am not sure what truth you are trying to refute or what you deem "red pill guys" are making up or such, I honestly have no idea what you are talking about cause your argument is just so vague. Ok, I'll give you a clear example. Redpill guys claim that women (not any particular women mind you,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 01:35 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". We have to discount women here No wonder you can't see things clearly when you are discounting the opinions of half the population due to their body parts. The adults ( the males) Thanks for clearly showing us how hateful you and people like you are. I think we can swiftly discount everything you say since you've made it so clear that you are blinded by hatred. The only hope is that you are still young and will develop some critical thinking skills as you mature. Otherwise you are a lost cause.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 01:14 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". I think we are seeing a major shift in men because men are now allowed to share information due to technology the way women have always shared information Explain how women have always been "allowed" to share information but men have "not been allowed"? it is now backed by data. No it isn't. Cherry picking data that suits your narrative is not showing that your beliefs are "backed by data". Sure you can persuade some naive people that it is, but that doesn't mean it actually is. Men are also log…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 01:01 PM
9	Women with at least one son: Did having a son make you more sympathetic to men's issues and more disturbed by the prevalence of mainstream open misandry? He may need help; therapy, counselling, a mentor I agree. It's funny though that your first reaction was not this, but instead your first reaction was to tell the woman he is hurting to go easy on him and realise it's not his fault but hers? or society's? I'm still not sure who exactly you are trying to blame for the guy's behaviour rather than him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 07:33 PM
17	Women with at least one son: Did having a son make you more sympathetic to men's issues and more disturbed by the prevalence of mainstream open misandry? You're excusing the teenage boy treating his mother like shit for not putting up with abuse and making it her fault? society's fault? I'm not sure who exactly you are trying to blame for his vile behaviour but anyone except him it seems. He is a teenager, he's old enough to realise that just because someone is related to you that doesn't automatically make them good. Young men are sentenced with the original sin of being male before they even get out into the world. What bullshit is this? You gu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 07:18 PM
8	Blue Pill Means You Pull the Wool Over Your Eyes About Women to Protect Your Own Ego Because there is no such thing as "female nature" that describes all women and excludes all men, nor is there any such thing as "male nature" which describes all men and excludes all women. I mean, can you name one behaviour trait that exists only in women, or only in men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 05:36 PM
1	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? Historically? No way, besides rare outliers. When I was a child I asked my teacher why she became a nun because even at that age I was fascinated by the idea that anyone would choose to live like that. She told me that she didn't have a choice, her parents sent her off to the convent to become a nun when she was 15 years old. In the 21st century where women actually have choices, guess how many women are becoming nuns? Basically zero. Does that tell you anything?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 08:51 PM
-2	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? nobody is literally forced to approach. If you read my comments carefully you will see that I never suggested anyone is or should be forced to approach anyone else. What I'm saying is that there is nobody who wants to have sex but chooses not to in order to protest gender roles, that's just not a thing. You know I'm right about that. If someone claims that's the reason, they are just coming up with a story to cover their lack of desire for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 07:34 PM
-6	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? I didn't. But very few normal human beings would be happy or content to not ever have sex. If you spend your life, or many years of it, as a virgin, because you are either too scared to or can't be bothered to try, I think it's most likely because you are not very sexual and don't feel a strong desire for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 07:09 PM
-3	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? Um, it's understandable in the sense that people can do what they choose and it's not my business. If you're asking for honest opinions about this guy, I think he clearly has no libido or at least a very low libido. So, he wouldn't be my type for a relationship, not because he's a virgin, but because of the reason he's a virgin. He would rather avoid asking someone out than risk asking someone out and then potentially have a sex life. I say this as a woman who has asked guys out and made the fir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 06:54 PM
13	Men; if you were a woman, would you be a trad wife, or would you aim to be a “modern woman”. What a ridiculously dumb response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:46 PM
18	Men; if you were a woman, would you be a trad wife, or would you aim to be a “modern woman”. That's what smart women do. They date one or two guys in college/uni find out what they like and what they need and then find their husband without wasting their prime years on the cock carousel which results in a good marriage or relationship and them not having to work full time or cry online that there are no good men left. No, that's not what "smart women" do. That's what women in modern times who prioritise marriage and kids do. To suggest that women who prioritise things other than being m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:21 PM
1	CMV: "financial abortion" should not be allowed Compared to 18 years of child support? It's not. This is what's called moving the goalposts. You went from saying women bear no consequences for unplanned pregnancy to now saying well yeah it's a consequence but it doesn't count because I don't believe it's as bad as the (one and only) consequence men face. Anyway, I'm not bothering to respond to the rest of your comment because it's full of childish arguments. I hope you develop empathy some day, but unless you are still a child that's probably…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 06:28 PM
1	CMV: "financial abortion" should not be allowed You seem to be under the impression that making the difficult decision to have an abortion and then having an abortion is not a consequence? Weird. What exactly do you think an abortion is? It's not like the woman just thinks the foetus away, it's a painful and scary medical procedure. It's a consequence for the woman. The man has zero consequences of an unplanned pregnancy. the baby only exists because the mother chose to not abort it No. The baby exists because two people had sex, pregnancy ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 06:01 PM
0	CMV: "financial abortion" should not be allowed I have no idea what this means in relation to my comment? Edit: after reading it again I think I know what you mean. You are suggesting that it's unfair that more men pay child support than women yes? That's dumb, more men pay because more men abandon their kids, while women stay and raise their children. What's harder - paying a bit of money to support your child or raising your child and paying money to support them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 04:19 PM
1	CMV: "financial abortion" should not be allowed No, my logic is sound. I was replying to someone who wrote "his money, his choice" as if that means that a man who doesn't want to financially support his child can choose not to. But, if the man has custody of the child, the woman also cannot decide not to support the child financially, she will have to pay child support. The law is gender neutral.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 02:47 PM
-4	CMV: "financial abortion" should not be allowed To the same extent as "her money, her choice". That choice doesn't extend to parenthood. As the biological mother or father, you are expected to financially support your child. The law is the same for both men and women. Crying "my money my choice" doesn't get you out of your legal obligations to pay things like taxes or bills (child support is a bill to be paid by non custodial parents).	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 02:32 PM
13	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I agree that there is no proof Good because OP definitely has no proof for his wild claims about women and men. The only proof I have is experience This is exactly what I said the OP would do. But you seem happy to jump in and defend him, ok. I also have experience in life and mine is different to yours. Now what? I’ve definitely been dumped in the past pretty quickly by a woman and I would consider myself a 6 to a 7 in my youth. That some woman put up with years of abuse from a dude that her an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 06:28 PM
15	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It If men want to be in a relationship with a 5 or 9, they will treat them very similar once they are in it, same amount of love and values. You have no proof of this. If women get a 9 guy in a relationship, she will have a completely new playbook and set of rules, put up with way more, and actually desire him much more in the relationship than she would a 5, that she believes she had to settle for. You have no proof of this either. You are probably going to reply that you have observed this yourse…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 05:58 PM
-2	What do you think of the comments in this podcast? This is something that men themselves often times echo but get told they are wrong. Now we have two women on a podcast acknowledging this. Wow, two whole women in the world have said something, it surely must be true for all 4 billion women!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/24 08:38 PM
–	Why do some men care so much about body counts? All you are doing here is deflecting by changing the subject. Why don't you respond to my previous comment? Do you not see how you are wrong? Or just want to keep digging your heels in? Funny how women have no problem rejecting a man with no experience, but don't want to be rejected for their own experience. I have never rejected a man for having no experience, I don't even ask them how much experience they have. I've also never been rejected for my experience, no guy has ever asked me, but I wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 12:01 PM
–	Why do some men care so much about body counts? But both are not true 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 10:55 AM
–	Why do some men care so much about body counts? Isn't disliking a cheater also a way to consider a woman your property? She can have sex with anyone she wants any time, you don't own her just because you are in a relationship. When I read this I almost thought you were getting it, but alas no. In a monogamous relationship the two people have agreed to be monogamous, so cheating is not ok, it's not about owning the other person. How many people someone slept with before meeting you is frankly none of your damn business and has no bearing on th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 10:54 AM
–	Why do some men care so much about body counts? So it's wrong to don't want cheaters? Nope, I never said that. I'm saying there is no "visceral reaction of disgust" that men have to promiscuous women, it's only to the idea of it, which is based on men considering women their property. I mean, you only care how many previous owners an object had if you are looking to buy it right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 10:34 AM
–	Why do some men care so much about body counts? don't like the idea of their property having been used by other men before them. Yes this is the real reason, no matter how much they go on about "pair bonding" and such. Lots of men here say they have a "visceral reaction of disgust" to a woman who has had sex with a lot of other men. But this is not true, because if they don't know how many they don't have any reaction. They only have a reaction to the idea of it, based on their ingrained belief that women are their property.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 10:20 AM
–	Why do some men care so much about body counts? Do you guys really need it explained to you that women are not objects to be owned as property? The only way your car analogy works is if you see women as men's property. Do you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 10:02 AM
-2	In democracies, there are no laws that discriminate against women, only laws that discriminate against men Ireland doesn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 04:00 PM
1	CMV: Women aren't entitled to anything, and men would benefit by acting accordingly But all jobs in the US have quotas. The most blatant lie on reddit today.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 07:16 PM
15	The Worst thing to happen to women was turning them into men. And the responsibility of women to hold men to higher standards has disappeared It seems to always come down to the same thing with you guys - that it should be the responsibility of women to make men behave themselves. No thanks. As a woman I am responsible for my own behaviour, not men's. Learn to keep yourselves in line.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/24 07:03 PM
3	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day Growing up, on a steady diet of Disney movies and romcoms can seriously warp your view of the world. I, like many guys, was bombarded with fairy tales, romcoms, and chick flicks that painted women as these perfect, angelic beings who could do no wrong. Did you not have parents, siblings, friends, family friends, teachers, classmates, parents of your friends and classmates to observe and see what real people are like? Were you an only child who was homeschooled? And forced to watch only Disney mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 09:38 PM
29	Doesn't Elon, Nick Cannon etc. prove that TRP is partially right about hypergamy and about how women are willing to share certain men? Ooh a handful of women in the world have slept with Elon Musk, that must prove that women are all hypergamous, the other billions of women don't count for some reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/24 07:09 AM
–	It is chiefly through the patriarchy that men keep other men in check First, I’m not sexist. I didn't accuse you of anything, I was responding to OP, but since you have commented to me... 2. Yes you are sexist, you've been in this sub a long time and I've read many of your comments. The rest of your comment is just defending OP's threat. Redpill guys complain non stop about "western" women not being submissive and deferential to men and try to come up with so many theories as to why. Is it not obvious?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 12:08 AM
–	It is chiefly through the patriarchy that men keep other men in check remove that authority, and see how deprived you'll be, remove that authority and you'll be in danger, you'll be deprived of your safety, We've heard this threat a thousand times from sexists already, you are not telling us anything new, you're just a garden variety sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 11:37 PM
2	How I see this all playing out if sexuality isn’t suppressed. Enforced monogamy simply prevents the top % man from creating a harem. Therefore they never have access to a man so far above them, suddenly their expectations are lowered and their standards are more realistic. You have zero proof of this. In fact, I think you just made it up in your own head. Since "enforced monogamy" has ended, thanks to feminism, I think you'll find that most women who can't get a man they want (not necessarily top 1% as you claim, but anyway) choose to stay single instead. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 07:07 PM
3	How I see this all playing out if sexuality isn’t suppressed. So you do think men are stupid?! And so controlled by their dicks that they will happily tie themselves to a "loser"! Pretty misandric take. Why do you think women should be on board with your plan to get all the loser guys a monogamous relationship with a woman who doesn't want him? I see how it benefits the loser guys, but why would women want to be part of this? Btw, we had enforced monogamy for a long time, women didn't like it, hence feminism. How do you propose to convince women nowadays t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 06:43 PM
2	How I see this all playing out if sexuality isn’t suppressed. Women generally don’t date “losers” This suggests that you think men are quite happy to date "loser" women? That's kinda pathetic, I'd say women are right not to date losers, especially those who want one person to spend their life with, why choose a loser who will most likely make your life worse? And you're basically telling us that you think men are stupid since they will happily date losers	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 06:19 PM
19	Without enforced monogamy, civilization will not last. we need to return to the days when people had faith imagine if the U.S. went back to being a 99% religious country like it was in 1950, does my plan not seem easily possible then? I don't think you understand how time works, lol. There's no going back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 09:46 PM
6	Is Polygyny the future? online dating is only beneficial for the top 5% of men According to whom? Where did you get this number from? women only finding the top 20% attractive According to whom? Where did you get this number from? You're going to reply that it's from "studies", that you have never even seen, you've just seen this "fact" (lol) repeated over and over again by the "manosphere". Can we not? I'm not going to accept made up statistics here. If you want to have a good faith discussion then bring real facts pl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 09:33 PM
9	Do women prefer to share a high value man than to have a low value man? I know a woman in her 40s who divorced her husband because "it was better to be somebody's (the high value man) side piece and get crumbs of his affection" than to be married to her husband (lower value man). Well I know lots of women in their 40's and not one of them has done this. What does that tell you? Also I have a strong feeling that women's libidos get higher when they get cheated on (attraction towards the cheater increases). No, don't be daft. am I completely unhinged? Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 03:57 PM
0	Why do women find it so hard to not be fat? It seems there's a slight misunderstanding of my comment on your part. OP asked why is it so hard for women to not be fat, which is insulting and rude to women for no reason, since it's clearly at least as hard for men. I replied that there are fewer overweight women than men, despite the fact that women naturally have more bodyfat. I never suggested that women are "inherently fatter on average". I was being quite tongue in cheek with my comment towards the OP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 08:03 PM
3	Why do women find it so hard to not be fat? Good thing then that I didn't say it does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 07:52 PM
2	Why do women find it so hard to not be fat? I don’t give a crap about men you hate. It applies to the men I like too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 07:51 PM
43	Why do women find it so hard to not be fat? "Over 70 million adults in U.S. are obese (35 million men and 35 million women). 99 million are overweight (45 million women and 54 million men)." I googled the above info. And this is despite the fact that women naturally have higher body fat percentage than men. 25% compared to 15%. So, the real question is "why do men find it so hard to not be fat?". And don’t mention how men are fat too You don't get to dictate what people mention in their comments. Women are naturally predisposed to carry m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 07:13 PM
25	Women would rather share a successful married man than an average single man So much misinformation in one post, I can't cope. Claiming something as fact with nothing to back it up is pointless. Women hate other women. No. Some women might, sure, but you can't just claim this as a woman thing. For example, I'm a woman and I don't hate other women. Women are jealous. Some are, some aren't, just like some men are jealous and some aren't. Women are always looking a better deal. Again, no. You can't just claim that women are "always" doing something. For example, I'm a woman…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 11:50 PM
7	"Low value Women" are more interesting to be around and to generally hang out then "high value women". guy cant speak no ill of any woman Never said this. Calling a woman a "whore" because she has tattoos or likes to party is pathetic. He doesn't know the "bodycount" of these women, he's just assuming based on his own prejudice. Also, I said it's not something that a traditional guy would do, I never suggested men can't say anything bad about a woman. Learn to read.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 10:49 AM
15	"Low value Women" are more interesting to be around and to generally hang out then "high value women". i am a traditional Guy who believes in low bodycount, good father figure and all the other traditional shit No you're not. You're cosplaying. Imagine the typical, fully tatted up, hot, 60 bodycount, no father figure, believes in feminism 22 year old women that takes drugs and does onlyfans. More baggage then a Plane. Very specific type of woman you are interested in. A night out with "low value whores" is the best time off your life. Its hard to explain. A traditional guy would have respect for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 10:21 AM
4	Are women "witholding affection from men"? Women have specifically asked men not to interact with them No we haven't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 07:05 PM
-1	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. Again, this is all just stuff you guys have made up in your heads. It might be different where you live, but here in the western country I live in, people nowadays wouldn't dream of getting married after two years of dating. What they do after two years of dating is move in together, then after a couple of years of that they get engaged, then take about two more years to plan the wedding. I know loads of people who got married after being together for 7 or 8 years, it's not at all unusual. Every…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:02 PM
4	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. Like you said they have all the power can sleep with hot guys and then the nonhot guys they end up married to are the last pick. This is utter nonsense. You do know that the average age for women to get married these days is around 30,and they generally marry someone they've dated and lived with for a few years. So, the woman is choosing the guy at, say, 25 years old, when she has plenty of options, not in her late 30's when her eggs are starting to run out. They are choosing their first pick, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 04:18 PM
–	The sheer number of reports of men responding in anger to being “rejected” by women says way more about women’s entitlement and inflated egos/delusional standards than men having some natural affinity for hostility Well of course, women are always to blame for men's poor behaviour aren't they? /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 10:24 PM
–	All men pay either in the front end or the back end Earth. If you're telling us that the women you have dated so far in your life have not given you any of their time, attention, money or energy, while you have given them copious amounts of those things, well, you're doing something wrong. Yikes. Relationships are a two way street, and yes, you do have to talk to your partner to stay in a relationship with them, and no, talking to your partner does not equal paying them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/24 06:22 PM
–	Let’s talk about financial abuse. Dude, if you are not happy with your divorce settlement then take it up with the courts. Nobody is financially abusing you. Are you really in the small percentage of divorced people paying alimony in this day and age? Did your wife never work after you two got married? Why didn't you marry someone with their own source of income?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 10:53 PM
–	Let’s talk about financial abuse. During divorce you are forced to continue paying everything you paid previously No you aren't. Where did you get this nonsense? In a divorce the marital assets (which belong to both parties) are divided up. People don't have to continue paying all the things they paid before. Another great example is alimony. Another great example of what exactly? You're arguing that a man ordered to pay alimony (which is in less than 10% of divorces) is in a financial arrangement he didn't consent to? Nope, he …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 10:39 PM
–	Let’s talk about financial abuse. Let’s talk about financial abuse. Ok, but nothing in the body of your post is about financial abuse? So for a lot of the man/woman debates I see a pretty direct correlation between sexual needs for men and financial needs for women. Most relationships men are there for sex and women are there for financial security. When you understand that people in general want money and people in general want sex, things will get clearer for you. There's no world where women want money only and men want sex o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 10:27 PM
13	Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships. What makes you think that if a couple are not jetting off to exotic locations every weekend that means they are sitting at home doing nothing? Regular couples go out for dinner in a restaurant or meet friends for a few drinks, or invite friends over to eat in their home, or go for walks or hikes together or do other sporting activities together, or go shopping or visiting family etc etc etc All things that don't break the bank and the man is not expected to pay fully for them in the modern era. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/24 04:05 PM
10	Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships. All of them are into “travel” now. They need new IG posts and reels for their story. She can’t be “bored” so you’re going to have to be doing date activities constantly and activities are not cheap. It's very clear that you don't interact with women in real life and just see them on Instagram like david attenborough observing some species or other. Lmao. If you did interact with them you would know this is not true for regular average people. That’s how dating works for men. Actually I doubt you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/24 04:00 PM
63	Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships. this notion that guys are just emptying their bank accounts when they get a gf is getting old. So so old. It's tiresome to constantly hear these redpill guys saying "of course the woman should do all the housework, I mean the man is paying for everything after all". Um, no, no he fucking isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/24 02:52 PM
20	Should women go to university young in western nations? I don't like women arrogantly trying to work and have kids at the same time. "arrogantly" jesus. . Luckily women don't have to base their life decisions on what you personally do or don't like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 07:22 PM
–	Here's an interesting thought experiment For the sake of women everywhere I think that is the world we should choose. I completely disagree with this. It shouldn't be up to women to sacrifice our pleasure in order to prevent men from assaulting and raping women. I would gladly sacrifice my personal pleasure to prevent all the trauma women are subject to in current world I wouldn't. I have a hard time believing that anyone who has experienced pleasurable sex would give that up to make other people behave in a certain way. Women are not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 06:56 PM
3	In a healthy relationship there is no reason for women to cheat. My girlfriend doesn’t need anyone to lead her yet she lets me. Weird how that works. That is weird, yeah. I have second hand embarrassment for her. Unfortunately there are still many girls being raised to believe that they will have to give up their freedom and allow a man to control her life in order to have a relationship. It's sad. But, you still haven't in any way demonstrated that the man leading the woman results in a healthy relationship, you just keep repeating that it's what you want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 10:21 AM
6	In a healthy relationship there is no reason for women to cheat. If a woman isn’t willing to follow my lead or add value to my life in a non transactional manner, we are not compatible. Yes, it sounds like you wouldn't be compatible with a woman who is capable of leading her own life and doesn't need another person to lead her i.e. the vast majority of women. This doesn't mean that if you find a woman who is willing to follow your lead that it would be a HEALTHY relationship. It would be a relationship that suits you, that doesn't make it healthy. A relations…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 10:01 AM
6	In a healthy relationship there is no reason for women to cheat. Some would disagree Most would disagree. At least most sane, rational and decent people would disagree. the man leads and the woman follows. The man knows who he is, what he wants and what he won’t tolerate at all times and the woman follows his lead and adds value to his life in a non transactional manner. In your version of a "healthy" relationship, you make it sound like the woman is a prop to complete the man's life, rather than an actual person with a life of her own. Definitely not a healt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 09:35 AM
–	What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with? Wow you really make these guys sound quite thick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 07:46 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? you never once ask the question "what is actually attractive to the kind of man who I'm looking for?" How the hell would you know whether women ask themselves this question or not? Obviously some women do and some don't, not all women behave the same way, just like not all men don't?! And then wonder why no one wants you. Who's wondering this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 01:15 AM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? What is it with the guys here jumping in to tell me what the other guys actually meant? His words were clear, I understood them and replied to them. I don't need you to reinterpret them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 06:16 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? Nobody said they do. I care obviously, as do all the other successful women. It might shock you but I'll let you in on a little secret - the majority of women don't base their life decisions on what men want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 05:01 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? My jaded views have made me realize I need to work hard as a man to be successful in this world and I have. As a woman I've always known I need to work hard to be successful, and I have. Why did it take you so long to figure out something this basic? And what in the world made you believe that it somehow only applies to those with a penis? Weird. And yes, I do think less of most women Like I said, prime example of a sexist who doesn't see women as real people. Sounds like you're proud of that to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 04:18 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? Welcome to the real world. Dude, the fantasy world you've built in your head is not the real world. You have clearly built up such a hatred of women over time that I'd say you are a lost cause. Best of luck with that, it's going to be rough for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 04:01 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? No it wasn't. He literally said women don't have to pay for anything, he didn't specify dates. Why are you trying to defend this sexist? Are you a sexist too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 03:59 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? Women don't understand what it's like to work at something Jesus christ, you can't actually believe this is true. It's the most sexist thing I've read in a while. You clearly think little of women. Women don't have to pay for anything, Wtf? Of course they do. don't have to have a good job What world do you live in? Clearly not the real world anyway. don't do anything except exist Really, so in your warped mind women literally just exist without ever having to do anything, work at anything or pay…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 03:46 PM
0	If women are the sexual selectors, why have I as a man broken up with and turned down women? There's no such thing as "sex inequality". Sex isn't equal or supposed to be equal. You are not entitled to have a woman of your choice handed to you by the government or whatever to do your sexual bidding. This is like saying there is "friendship inequality" because some people have more friends than you do. Humans don't work that way, deal with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 06:57 PM
0	Covert Narcissism and the Red Pill Man I forgot redditors universally lack of any sort of reading comprehension whatsoever, No, I understood what you wrote. women here don't say that So you lied when you said they did. Is it hard for you to admit you were wrong? Clearly so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 06:34 PM
0	If women are the sexual selectors, why have I as a man broken up with and turned down women? No, the only "inequality" that exists is that if you wish to date someone they must find you attractive or want to be with you for some reason and if that's not the case then they cannot be forced to be with you. This goes for everyone, yes, even women! Your "80/20" assumption means nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 06:29 PM
-1	Covert Narcissism and the Red Pill Man Does it even matter what the difference is? They are all nothing but misogynists end of story. As a woman who works hard, pays bills and tries my best to treat everyone with respect and decency I don't appreciate when they say that women are hypergamous gold digging whores, because no we're not and I literally don't give a flying fuck what pill colour these misogynists choose to go by, they are misogynistic assholes regardless. And sane women avoid them which is why they don't even know what reg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 06:15 PM
0	Covert Narcissism and the Red Pill Man Can you show examples of women here saying they think "men are tools of competence to serve them"? What am I saying, of course you can't. You are not quoting what women here say, stop lying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 05:57 PM
1	If women are the sexual selectors, why have I as a man broken up with and turned down women? We go by an 80/20 assumption Why would we do that when we know that assumption is nonsense? Only idiots would go by an assumption that has never been proven true and is observably false.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 05:47 PM
–	The 80:20 rule some men push is flipped. The fact that the woman they finally find most likely isn't attracted to them This is not a fact, just something you made up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 11:14 AM
7	Do women who chase " Chad " have it as bad as men claim ? You mean you don't believe that this guy got a hot 19 year old (probably virgin) and wifed her up, while all his exes ended up married to ugly men or single and desperate for a man? Or that this is representative of all the women who were too stupid to "lock down" an awesome guy like him when they were 19 (their "prime" apparently)? Shocking!	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 10:31 AM
24	Why do you women vilify some men who are doing nothing to them? Why do you women vilify some men who are doing nothing to them? Woman here. I don't do this. Are you talking about some particular women? If so your question shouldn't address "you women" as if you're referring to all of us. There are some men out there just mind their own business and then are suddenly accused of being some of the most vow people in the given area. What's a "vow" person? Anecdotally I hear or I am part of conversations with women who want to punish a man for some of the most si…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 01:07 PM
14	Why does red pill give conflicting messages about what men want? if we're supposed to go back to the 1950s with a man at work and a woman at home for every single household, there's gonna need to be a lot of money We're not supposed to go back to the 1950's. Stop listening to what sexist men want, it has no value for women in modern times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 09:41 PM
3	CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibility your point is the same as prolifers that women should be responsible and carry fetus to term if they had sex. No, my point is not the same as prolifers. I'm not saying that people shouldn't have sex. Just that people should be aware that sex can result in pregnancy. If a pregnancy happens, it only affects the woman therefore she should have full control over that. If the pregnancy results in a child, then the parents of that child should have to raise the child. However, we can't force people to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 10:11 PM
8	CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibility if a woman decides to give birth in such scenario, its her responsibility to come up with the plan to pay for it. Nope, it's both parents responsibility to pay for their child. You clearly wish it wasn't but it is, that's a fact in current society. She has a choice and should have, but men should have a choice as well They do have a choice. But because of biology the man's choice occurs at the point of having sex. The woman has the same choice at that point, but also has a further choice because…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 08:51 PM
14	CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibility Of course they should, and the wise ones do. But an unplanned pregnancy results in consequences for the woman no matter what (whether it's going through pregnancy and all that entails resulting in a child that must be raised and paid for, or the tough decision of aborting the pregnancy and then going through the abortion). The man suffers no consequences unless the pregnancy results in a child, in which case the only consequence he must suffer are financial. So the stakes are higher for a woman.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 08:40 PM
-4	"redpilled" and NOT misogynistic? I don't get what you mean. What is it you don't know and what is it you think I don't know?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 06:02 PM
-7	"redpilled" and NOT misogynistic? Nope. Feminists think misogyny is misogyny. It's interesting that you used the words "seem to think" rather than just the word "think". This indicates that you don't actually know what feminists think and are just guessing, and assuming your guess is correct. If you wish to know what feminists actually think, just ask us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 05:34 PM
5	"redpilled" and NOT misogynistic? Huh? You started out saying "criticising people isn't hate". Now you've changed it to it is hate but I believe it's ok since others are hateful too. I find this to be a pathetic attitude that some people have, and a lot of "manosphere" guys have it - this idea that yeah I'm behaving badly but it's only in retaliation for others who are behaving badly, I didn't start it. How childish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 05:14 PM
–	Are women actually able to be friends with men? women are friends with men for money and resources and nothing else. This sentence tells us nothing about women, but tells us all we ever need to know about you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 05:23 PM
4	Why do so many women still deny that men are way hornier? This is the source of 99% of the issues being discussed here. Men will fuck anything with a pulse without even speaking a word to them. Sounds rapey. You should probably clarify that you're speaking for yourself here, not men in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 04:47 PM
8	Men and women are not, and never will be equal Not true. I've been punched in the face twice in my life by two different guys, without any provocation on my part. In both cases the guy assumed things about me (which weren't true in case 1 and which were none of his business in case 2) based on my appearance, and decided that not liking these things about me was enough to justify them punching me. I have never attacked a man, yet there was a problem for me. Women not attacking men is not enough to protect women from being attacked by men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 02:45 PM
1	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims Take the privilege of having ti sign up for the draft to vote. Nah, we don't have a draft where I live, so I am no more privileged than the men in that regard. The privilege of getting circumcised. We don't do that to babies here, so again, no privilege there. The privilege of working an equal amount of high fatality jobs like on the oil rig, mining, logging, and roofing. I literally don't know even one person who does those jobs. We have no oil rigs, few if any mines these days and we don't rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 10:55 AM
1	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims Well this is bullshit. I'm a woman, an ordinary woman, living my life. woman want the the rights of a man Yes. Which I basically have, thanks to feminism. the privileges of a woman No, I want the privileges that men have, of which I definitely have some being in a middle class community in 2024, but just not quite there yet. and the responsibility of a toddler Um, no, I want to have, and do have, the responsibility of a fully grown adult. How dare you suggest that women want the responsibility o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 11:19 PM
4	Is there legitimately an actual correlation with causation to women wearing revealing clothing and promiscuity? See how logic works. It’s hard, I know. Keep trying. Smug much? You sound insufferable. What you're basically saying here is that it's not the clothes that make a difference, since a woman can wear a bikini on the beach but not get raped, but that if she wore a bikini in a city slum she is likely to get raped. However, I've never in my life seen a woman wear a bikini in a city slum, have you? No of course you haven't. So women get raped no matter what they are wearing as has been proved time and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:30 PM
4	Is there legitimately an actual correlation with causation to women wearing revealing clothing and promiscuity? revealing clothing that exposes their genital outline increases their chance of an undesirable encounter. Except it doesn't, because "undesirable encounters" rarely happen at the beach. And in fact, women are more likely to be raped by someone they know, while on a date, or their SO regardless of what they are wearing than they are on the beach. You're disregarding logic in your responses here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 07:36 PM
3	Is there legitimately an actual correlation with causation to women wearing revealing clothing and promiscuity? Sounds like you've totally bought into the idea that women cause their own rapes by dressing in revealing clothes. I guess no woman in a burkha has ever been raped in your fantasy land? If you were correct about this then no woman would ever be safe wearing a bikini on the beach or by the pool, and yet these outfits don't generally cause rapes. Use some logic please.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 07:02 PM
1	What is happening to men? I am concerned what happens when a group that is far more nefarious starts competing for their attention? I have such a problem with this sentence. It goes back to what I said in my original comment above. A veiled threat that if women don't get in line and do what men want something terrible will happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 11:25 PM
4	What is happening to men? I am concerned sorry, I don't know how to use reddit's fancy formatting stuff If you want to quote something from the comment you are replying to, put this symbol, >, directly in front of the quote, without a space. I like to be helpful. it's not that Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson appeal to any of our real problems Yeah I already knew that, hence why I was questioning why OP said it. Those guys are grifters who don't care about young men, or anyone but themselves. they're just not afraid to say that the life…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 10:57 PM
3	What is happening to men? I am concerned men are always at fault for their outcomes. If a man suffers it’s usually their fault. This is a funny take, since women are constantly blamed and held accountable for men's behaviour, men's decisions and men's outcomes. Feminism in a way is also hating on men. Nope. And I know you didn't come up with this idea yourself, you just heard or read "manosphere" guys online tell you this. Jordan Peterson and Andrew tate might be the target of mockery and bashing but they appeal to real concerns in men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 07:59 PM
5	Is it true that most people cannot lower their standards biologically? You're not seriously replying to a person who wrote the following? Women don’t participate in sex. Will they enjoy that sex? Probably not, but sex is just a transaction for relationship benefits. women are biologically gold diggers	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 12:39 AM
2	The "Wall" does indeed exist, but only for women who have built it themselves. You're just repeating redpill talking points so it really sounds like you have very little experience in life so don't know what you're talking about. men in general don't want to pursue a serious relationship with someone with a high body count. Sure they do, that's why normal guys don't bring that topic up with their girlfriend, because it doesn't matter to the attraction he feels for her, or to his desire to have a long term relationship with her. Take it from someone who has experienced life…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 09:48 PM
10	The "Wall" does indeed exist, but only for women who have built it themselves. I can't take this stuff seriously. This idea that a woman who is a bland "good girl" in her 20's, avoiding parties, travel, sex then she will be rewarded with a serious relationship with a "high value" man. While a woman who has fun in her 20's, goes to parties, travels, has gasp sex with men and, y'know, enjoys life while studying and starting her career will be punished by becoming haggard and ugly as soon as she turns 30 and no quality man will want her. It's ridiculous Does it ever occur to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/24 08:15 PM
1	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. I don't see the point in replying to me if you couldn't answer either of the things I asked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/24 07:07 AM
1	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. Ok so you agree it's not true? Cool. Your feelings may or may not align with reality but in this case you can see that they don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 09:14 PM
1	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. men are take away from job positions they would get Show me one man who was "taken away" /not hired from a job he would have gotten (how can you prove he would have gotten it anyway?). You can not show that. Guess what, men and women can both apply for a job, and a woman getting hired for it does not prove it should have been the man's job and it was taken away from him. Lol. current laws favor women leaving their husbands Show me one law that "favours women leaving their husbands"? Take your ti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 07:25 PM
2	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. I think women’s standards are extremely high. Top 20% of guys sleeping with the top 80% of women answers this for you. It would answer this if it were true, but only a moron can believe this is true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 07:19 PM
1	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. a society that don't allow the oportunities for men to form a family will just fall apart. Our current society DOES allow the opportunity to men to form a family. Just because some men are not able to take that opportunity, and some women aren't either, doesn't change that. So no problem here eh?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 07:05 PM
2	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. They'll want what they can't get it. You can't always have something just because you want it. These men you are talking about need to learn that. Perhaps it all comes down to how we educate boys so they don't grow up thinking they can have a woman just because they want her, learn that women are people, not property. Remember French Revolution? Wealth inequality? Similarly, sex/relationship inequality will result in men revolting Wow, if you can't see the difference between wealth which is owne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 05:46 PM
4	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. overturn modernity and restore societal stability (consistent relationship, commitment, kids) Ah, you're just a garden variety misogynist advocating for the good old days when men automatically had some sense of importance over half the population just for being born with a penis. You're sad that men have lost a lot of their privileges in modern times aren't you? We're not going back there, you would be better off to drop that attitude and think about how things could work in the present and the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 05:33 PM
2	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. Then something needs to be done by society to deal with them. And no, forcing women who are not attracted to those guys to be in a relationship with them is not the answer. Find a different solution. You're suggesting they will form gangs and commit violence - society's solution to that would be to put them in prison, not to offer them their choice of woman. Be serious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 05:26 PM
7	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. If he has no kids, no wife, no girlfriend. He is a force of nature, he will not even care for himself. If you are right about this, and I'm not sure you are, then this is a fundamental difference between men and women. Most women who don't have a romantic relationship and/or children, will still take care of herself, build a life, and be a contributing member of society. We don't live in a world that's catered only to what men want anymore. Men need to find a way to deal with this. Maybe not foc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 05:13 PM
1	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. Loads. But is there any point with someone as clearly far gone as you are. Here's one and we'll see how you get on with it and go from there. A woman not needing a man to survive is not a problem. What makes you think it's a problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 05:02 PM
2	Women standards aren’t high, it’s just too many guys are too desperate to not be single. I'm not sure I've ever read a comment on reddit with so much misinformation and misunderstandings and outright falsehoods as this one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 04:56 PM
4	"What do you bring to the table" is a horrible take as love shouldn't be something that can be calculated by the numbers The fact that you call a woman you think is not good enough for you "that" says a lot about you, and it's not anything good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 04:01 PM
15	Marraige is a net loss move for men. Just gonna keep moving on from you then. Well if you're going to refuse to debate people in a post flaired as debate, then I don't know why you even made the post. It sounds like you believe abusive women don't exist I believe abusive men and abusive women exist. My comment was a reply to yours where you suggested that a man who is happy he is married "beat the odds". I am claiming that the odds were in his favour so he didn't beat them. Can you respond to that, rather than dismissing me for a m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 06:58 PM
17	Marraige is a net loss move for men. Nah, the odds were never stacked against that guy. It sounds like he appreciates the equal financial contribution his wife makes without feeling emasculated from his "rightful place" as king of the castle by being "the provider". It also sounds like he pulls his weight with the housework and doesn't expect his wife to do it all because it's "women's work". If all that is true then he was always going to end up happily married to a good person. If you feel the odds are stacked against you and peo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 06:13 PM
1	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? I agree, women are equal to men. I am waiting for women to be sentenced at levels comparable to men in the justice system. Well women don't commit violent crimes at a level comparable to men. But if you really want to change this, why not do something about it, like feminists did for women's rights? Sitting around "waiting" doesn't change anything. And for women to be 50/50 doing real jobs. Let me guess, you think jobs that men do are real jobs and the jobs women do are mickey mouse jobs eh? The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 08:09 PM
2	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? So feminism is fighting for...women not being happy? No dummy, keep up lol. Feminism is fighting against the sexism against women which still exists, as you are so kindly displaying all over this post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 07:41 PM
2	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? Ah so you're a rape apologist. Got it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 07:30 PM
3	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? I see sexism is alive and well in 2024. Guys, you know the way you regularly see posts on reddit asking "what is feminism actually fighting for these days? Don't women have the same rights as men, why are they not happy?" Well, exhibit A right here. The disdain towards women is palpable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 07:24 PM
2	How is the second branch secured during a monkey branching? So, this is your second attempt at this post. In the first attempt you wrote the whole thing as a gendered thing that women in general do. Here was my response to that : "You've written this whole post in a gendered way as if "monkey branching" is female behaviour rather than human behaviour. There are SOME men and SOME women who behave this way, so to suggest that it's something women do in general is ridiculous. Every boyfriend I ever broke up with - the first question out of his mouth was "th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 08:56 PM
2	The issue with this subreddit is the fact that blue pillers just simply ignore facts You're going to be shocked to hear that it never ends. People who genuinely want to improve themselves are constantly learning and trying new things throughout their lives. They don't get to, for example, 50 years old and go oh, this is it, I'm the best I can ever be so I'll stop now. But they are the people that understand that nobody is perfect, however you can always keep trying and improving, your path is not set from birth. Maybe you are not one of those people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 08:25 PM
4	The issue with this subreddit is the fact that blue pillers just simply ignore facts The issue with this subreddit is the fact that blue pillers just simply ignore facts This claim is hilarious considering that redpill guys constantly claim things as facts when they aren't actually facts. You're not ignoring a fact if you know it's clearly not a fact, lol. Dating and romance are easier for women than men. Where's your proof of this fact? I see "manosphere" guys regularly say that women can get sex easier than men can, but that doesn't make dating and romance "easier* for women. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 08:13 PM
–	Why is it easier for women than men to get laid? What a sad little life you must live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 07:55 PM
8	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. Wouldn't it be preferable to live with "box wine and cats" than have to French kiss some guy she finds yucky? Well cats are amazing animals and wine is delicious, so I would love one of these redpill guys to come and tell us what's supposed to be so bad about cats and wine?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 04:38 PM
14	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. Agreed. I'm almost 47 and you are correct. It just makes me laugh how much these redpill guys want this fantasy to be true ; that women will "hit the wall" and regret not going for those guys when we were younger 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 04:20 PM
-1	At a 50/50 male to female ratio, why are there so many men left out? Why would there be a statistically relevant rise of chronically single men who, despite trying, can't land a date, much less a hookup or "situationship"? Well, first you would need to show that there is a statistically relevant rise of chronically single men who, despite trying, can't land a date, much less a hookup or situationship. Do that first please, as otherwise your whole post makes no sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 01:15 PM
–	Women aren't happier single. go find someone actually saying that to complain about it. But I wasn't complaining about anything. I was refuting your claim that women often say they are happier single in order to bash men. In fact, that doesn't really happen, however men on this sub seem determined to warn women that they are actually not happier single. Which begs the question, why? What difference does it make to you if women are happier single or not? Presumably if you want a relationship you are looking for a woman who a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 07:59 PM
–	A hypothetical scenario advocating abstinence for the lesser-endowed Why would you be advocating abstinence for random people you don't even know? Like, stay out of other people's bedrooms lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 07:28 PM
–	Women aren't happier single. It's a often recited man bashing talking point No I don't think so. I've only ever seen men, like you, suggesting that women are happier in a relationship with a man to say that women are "deluding" themselves and "will regret it" later. No, women in general are not going to be in a shitty relationship in order to not be alone, that's a man thing for some reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 07:24 PM
7	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ You left out the rest of that sentence after the first two words, I'll remind you.. just like a man who is the custodial parent and receives child support from the child's mother could spend that money on his new girlfriend if he chooses to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 11:54 PM
4	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ No, it's her money once it's handed over (since she's actually doing the hard work of raising the children) and he has no say in how she budgets HER money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 11:00 PM
6	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ She could, just like a man who is the custodial parent and receives child support from the child's mother could spend that money on his new girlfriend if he chooses to. That's how money works, people can spend it how they choose even if others think they are spending it foolishly. But, you can't give the money directly to the child, they're even more likely to spend it foolishly. It must go to the custodial parent, and it then becomes part of their overall household budget. As long as the kids a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 10:37 PM
20	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ Many of them can't bear the thought of handing money over to a woman and then not getting to control her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:28 PM
13	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ For society. The individuals are irrelevant. Well if half the individuals in society are considered relevant enough to have things their way and the other half's wants/needs/desires etc are considered irrelevant that's not a very healthy society is it, hence why the half that weren't happy with it forced change. For now. In western society. I can tell from this comment that you haven't travelled much, it is spreading all over the world. Outbreed the Muslims or we are going back. Funny. For examp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:24 PM
14	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ I know, but you have to feel sorry for them, their poor little brains just can't understand how they are not entitled to have things the way they want - I mean imagine living like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:17 PM
23	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ It worked in the past. For men. Wasn't so great for women. So why wouldn't it work again? Because we now, as a society, consider women as full human beings equal to men, not as chattel, that's why. Current situation is not working. So find a better way. We're not going back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 07:59 PM
33	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ why so many of the trp men, don’t understand why woman don’t want a relationship like this, where they are second and controlled by a man Well, they've convinced themselves that women were happier in the past, as second class citizens, you see this sentiment often in this and other manosphere subs. Easy to oppress others when you've decided they are happy being oppressed	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 07:55 PM
9	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example Yes, because women who make a lot of money go for broke guys Some of them actually do, some go for guys on their financial level, others stay single and continue to pay their own bills as they have always done. Women don't care for 'nice and decent', they want dark triad personality traits. Is this another reason you are giving for why so many manosphere guys are struggling to get any woman interested in them? Because they are under the false impression that all women go for assholes? Jfc. Men a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 07:47 PM
12	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example Most men don't want loud girlboss feminist types. We want someone pleasant to be around. In the modern world where women don't need a man to be financially secure, you better be pleasant to be around if you want a woman who is. Maybe that's where many of these "manosphere" guys are going wrong, expecting a nice decent woman when they are neither nice nor decent themselves? And then getting angry they can't get what they want, and making up stories about women not wanting them because they're not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 07:00 PM
2	Q4M: Describe the type of male a traditional woman deserves? Do you see any daylight between what I wrote and this? Honestly, no. You've described her as bringing a cozy, peaceful attitude, always willing to follow his lead, cleans without complaint etc. She seems like some men's ideal of how a bangmaid should behave, rather than a real human being. It's 2024, we know that women are real human beings with thoughts, dreams & ambitions (that can be independent to those of her husband), opinions, makes mistakes etc etc. It's sad to me that some men still hol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 04:15 PM
2	Q4M: Describe the type of male a traditional woman deserves? Why do we need to evolve past this? For many people this is what they want I understand that some men do want a woman who is nothing but a support character in his life. But if you can't see the problem with this then I can't help you. Why do you need to attack people for lifestyles they choose ? I haven't attacked anyone. Do you think disagreeing with someone is attacking them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 11:31 AM
-1	Q4M: Describe the type of male a traditional woman deserves? My girlfriend and I support each other's goals. We are both agreeable, cooperative people (despite me not agreeing with you 😉). Idk if we dress modestly (somewhat?), but we don't particularly care much about that anyway. Don't really care about body count either. We both are happy to follow each other's lead (though I tend to lead in more areas than she does). And our relationship is great! We definitely see each other as real people and care a lot about each other. We don't really care about a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 11:16 AM
2	Q4M: Describe the type of male a traditional woman deserves? Well, as in real life, you will never know, since there is no test to measure how many people someone has had sex with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:19 AM
3	Q4M: Describe the type of male a traditional woman deserves? this sounds like a very caring, committed, and cooperative woman No. This sounds like a figment of OP's imagination, a woman who has no ambitions or goals of her own and only sees herself as a support character in the man's life. Any man who would specifically want a woman like this doesn't see women as actual people. From the OP: Supports her man's goals Cooperative and agreeable Dresses modestly, claims low bawdy count Happy to follow his lead Have we really not evolved past this in the 21st c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:16 AM
–	CMV: The whole "traditional" lifestyle that is pushed by some red pillers looks unappealing and is counterproductive/contradictory You still don't. What's the point of making such a dramatic comment when it's just plain false?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 05:42 PM
3	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? I’d be a virgin or close to if I had to actually be in a relationship with a woman to fuck her so I’m glad too Nah, if you had to be in a relationship with a woman to have sex with her you would work hard to get in a relationship, or at least the majority of men would. And women btw. Why do you think people got married so young when sex before marriage was seriously punishable? Men are stupid to complain when they can make money off having sex with beautiful women and uploading it as porn Don't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 06:07 PM
0	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? you can partly blame reddit and mainstream media for censoring red pill, because it forced red pill to find a new home that would tolerate it, which is conservative media. "It's not our fault we hate women, reddit and main stream media forced us to be indoctrinated by conservatives, we have no agency to think for ourselves" lol!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 05:49 PM
8	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? “I want a traditional woman!” Is the want of men, not specifically RP men. Many men want a traditional relationship with a woman who’ll cook, clean, not have a high body count, not cheat, stay fit, love him, etc In that case, we're so lucky to live in a time where society is no longer based on what men want. It shocks me that there are so many men angry that it isn't based on what they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 05:36 PM
4	What are some of your 'favorite' societal contradictions? this is probably an example of correlation but not causation. Totally agree. Also, (I don't know about the US, but here in my country) birth control wasn't legal until the 1970's at least and then it was only legal for married women, so it had no effect on single motherhood, although it did allow married women to not be tied to continual pregnancies, birth and child rearing. It wasn't legal for single women until at least the 1980's.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:27 PM
23	What are some of your 'favorite' societal contradictions? Birth control has led to higher rates of single motherhood No it hasn't. Changing social attitudes has led to higher rates of single motherhood. I'm guessing you're either too young or too uneducated on the topic to know. But back in the day if a woman was pregnant out of wedlock there was no option to be a single mother. She either had to marry the father, if he would agree to that, and regardless of how good or bad that marriage would be for either party, OR she had to go away, have the baby i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 09:52 PM
5	Question for RedPill about households where each spouse works full-time I am not accepting a relationship with a woman that spends 8+ hours a day in a job. She does not have enough time/energy left to be a good partner after that. Please explain how a man working 8+ hours a day in a job has the time/energy left to be a good partner, but a woman does not. Makes no sense. Or, wait... do you believe that the man doesn't even need to spend time or energy being a good partner because he's "the provider"? Barf. Good luck with that attitude in the 21st century.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 09:42 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Yes of course it is my opinion. What else did you think it might be? A peer reviewed study?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:01 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. following a faith based system that millions of people follow. Major red flag imo	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:23 PM
7	Why do men crave a stay at home wife so much? Then Don't Oh I didn't, I'm not that stupid. There's more girls without money then with money. Sure, but that's been changing over the last 40 or so years. More and more women are making sure to have their own career and income rather than rely on a man. So, this little fantasy the "manosphere" is peddling to young guys that you should have a sahm so you can be head of the household (lol) and keep your woman under you is just going to end in a lot of poor sad little men upset they can't get what…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 03:11 PM
9	Why do men crave a stay at home wife so much? What a load of baseless generalities and falsehoods. Because men have learned that 50/50 doesn't work. She won't respect you as much and it ruins the power dynamic. Guessing by power dynamic you mean the man having the power, head of the household type crap. Yeah, women don't want that, generally speaking of course. Not to mention that women are never reliable with their half anyway. You state this as if it's a fact, so show us what you are basing it on please. Because I know lots of 50/50 coupl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:46 PM
3	CMV: Dating for most men gets easier at 30 because they lack the sexual experience to realise , women's standards and desires for a relationship, marriage shift out of necessity. And yet that same pew research says the following : "income dynamics among couples have shifted. In 1980, only 13% of married women earned more than or about as much as their husbands. By 2000, the share had risen to 25%. Today, 31% of women who are married or cohabiting are contributing at least half of the couple’s total earnings (including 28% who earn more than their husband or partner and 3% who earn about the same amount). In 69% of married or cohabiting couples, the man earns more than th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/24 11:05 PM
1	CMV: Dating for most men gets easier at 30 because they lack the sexual experience to realise , women's standards and desires for a relationship, marriage shift out of necessity. I am showing my knowledge and understanding of everyday events Every day events in the 1950's to 1980's. We're currently in the year 2024, get with the times. If you're so sure that women in general expect a man to pay everything for them, show the evidence. "Men are generally taller than women" Is a FACT - it's not only easily observable by everyone, it's provable and has been proven, it can't be disputed. "Women treat their money as their own and their male partner's money as both of theirs" i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/24 07:43 PM
9	CMV: Dating for most men gets easier at 30 because they lack the sexual experience to realise , women's standards and desires for a relationship, marriage shift out of necessity. Never forget, “her money“ is her money; “his money“ is “our money.“ Forgive me if I don't believe you. I've had more than one boyfriend in the past who operated like that, his money was his money while my money was our money. People like that are awful but it's not gender based. You're not claiming any kind of fact here, just showing your bias against women, taking a negative trait that some people have and trying to claim that it's a women's trait when it isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/24 03:44 PM
8	CMV: Dating for most men gets easier at 30 because they lack the sexual experience to realise , women's standards and desires for a relationship, marriage shift out of necessity. Billy found himself the mature women who now knows what she really wants. Good for Billy, glad he found himself a mature woman who knows what she wants, that's great. Someone who can cover the mortgage. Nah mate, it's the 21st century, she wants someone who can cover HIS share of the mortgage. See, the problem here is that you're taking something you don't like about the old system, in this case the fact that men were expected to provide all the money for the household, then pretending that's wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/24 10:09 AM
8	Do you think feminism has made it harder to get laid? the stereotypical feminist is a lesbian, specifically a man hating lesbian. No.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/24 12:50 PM
1	Why are people so reluctant to accept serial monogamy? I can name dozens of things. Protection, emotional security, provisioning, higher quality genes, status, entertainment, romance, etc. Literally none of this is true. "higher quality genes"? Lmao wtf? This conversation is done, I'm not going to bother with someone who is this deluded. Bye.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 10:35 PM
0	Why are people so reluctant to accept serial monogamy? No, in the same way that you can't name one thing men provide to women that isn't mutually beneficial for them. Your premise is ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 08:51 PM
4	Why are people so reluctant to accept serial monogamy? Women don't really invest anything into a relationship Well this is certainly an opinion. It's completely wrong of course, and a very simplistic and childish way to view women and their contribution to relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 11:01 AM
8	Why would conservative women be more happy ? I can't speak for what makes other women happy or not, but I know for myself that I could not be happy being submissive to another person, allowing another person to make major decisions on my behalf and I could definitely not be happy being a stay at home mother, spending my days changing nappies and cleaning up after others. I have a brain and am happiest when I'm using it therefore I like to work, earn my own money and make my own decisions. Sure there are probably some women who would be hap…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/23 10:23 PM
9	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? men when if we ask for a divorce we still gotta give up half our shit Can you drop this bs, it's tired. If I married a guy and we ended up getting divorced, I would have to give up half my shit. Why do you think this only applies to men? It's the 21st century. For most western countries the laws are straightforward ; anything belonging to one party before marriage remains theirs, anything earned during marriage belongs to both of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 10:17 PM
–	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? Compulsory reminder that women are people, not cars or other goods that you buy, don't be so gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 10:07 PM
9	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? Oh you should be allowed to divorce. You shouldn't be allowed to take the kid with you though as well as have me pay for it. I don't disagree, both parents should still have responsibility for their kids even if their romantic relationship has broken down. Do you also agree then that men shouldn't be allowed to walk away from their kids and refuse to parent them anymore because the romantic relationship has broken down? Because I know a few men who have done this, they had to be forced by the co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 09:20 PM
8	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? So we're back to square one - if there is only one vote per household, how do you decide which of the two adults in the household vote is counted? And which isn't?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 08:40 PM
11	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? Um, people can share the same value system and still not vote for the exact same candidates. You're probably American and don't know anything about proportional representation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 08:34 PM
9	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? Sure, but I want him to say it, to show his sexism. He probably won't reply of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 08:33 PM
5	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? Having kids is just not worth giving a woman that kind of power over you. I kinda feel the same as you in that I believe there is literally nothing that's worth giving a man that kind of power over me. I mean, historically and traditionally it was men who had the power in a marriage, and things haven't changed that drastically, except for women now being allowed to divorce for any reason at all, which is necessary in my opinion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 08:25 PM
16	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? marriage needs to be tied to something larger, like the right to vote (one per household). So in a marriage you would generally have two adults in the household, how would you decide whose vote gets counted to represent the household and whose doesn't?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 08:17 PM
14	Would older women be happier if they lowered their standards? hmm, well I figured you were older giving such terrible advice She didn't give any advice though, did you misunderstand the comment you replied to? Older women LOVE getting bad advice to younger women, it's jealously thing This is just a load of nonsense. Seems like you have misunderstood a lot of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/23 09:04 PM
15	Do you think older, single, childless, "cat ladies" are largely happy or not? Sure, but that wasn't my point at all. I was responding to OP's assertion that this is a new thing and so we will have to wait and see how it turns out. It's not new and the truth is some women will be happier in a relationship and with kids, and some women will be happier living an independent life. It's up to each woman to make the choice for what she believes will make her happy, and obviously some get it right while some choose the wrong path for them and regret it. This is life, it's really…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/23 05:41 PM
47	Do you think older, single, childless, "cat ladies" are largely happy or not? But this is a fairly recent phenomenon and these women are really pioneers, This is not in any way a recent phenomenon. There have always been women who chose to live alone and have a career. My great grand aunt was a teacher who never married or had children and had her own house. Living like that was not unheard of back then. Sure there might be more women nowadays choosing that life, but there's no great mystery about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/23 04:33 PM
3	did something along the way go wrong for human societal development? How about you sign up for the draft too thunder thighs? How? There's no draft where I live, neither men nor women can "sign up" for something that doesn't exist. Also, I thought the draft was specifically something you don't sign up to, but are forced into against your will? But I wouldn't know since we have no draft here in my country. Also, thunder thighs? Seriously? What are you, 12?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/23 04:51 PM
-1	did something along the way go wrong for human societal development? apparently marriage rates are down, childbirths are down But, these things were kept artificially high during patriarchal times. When you allow people, including women, to make their own choices in life, there are fewer marriages and fewer children born, shocking. you got more people now saying they got no friends or very little friends. Compared to what time period? Have you looked at research on this topic? you got more males not getting post secondary education or performing poorly in primary…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/23 04:21 PM
6	What are some examples of Blue Pill Media that lied to you about women? Actually, women don't. Don't work as much hours as men. What you actually mean is that women don't work as many PAID hours as men. Funny how women were kept out of much of the paid work for a long time, especially the most lucrative ones, and expected to do the bulk of the unpaid work, be responsible for the kids etc, and as a society we are still recovering from that discrimination, yet sexist people still insist that men work harder than women. And they tend to avoid mentally and physically ta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 10:17 AM
4	What are some examples of Blue Pill Media that lied to you about women? This is just a list of things you feel you have been lied to about. Can you provide examples, as the OP has asked for, of these lies being spread by the "bluepill" media?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 01:35 AM
11	What are some examples of Blue Pill Media that lied to you about women? But OP asked for examples, you haven't provided any. Let's take point number 4. It sounds like you're saying that the "bluepill" media has lied to us by telling us that women work as hard as men. Can you give an example of these lies. And it sounds like you're suggesting that women don't actually work as hard as men, which is just sexist and tells us more about you than the media lying to us all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 01:33 AM
0	To 35+F, what do you think of men 35+M who went on strike against you? I used to tell it as 1, but to girl -- friends. I would be too embarrassed to tell it to guy friends. As I said, you had to save face with your buddies so couldn't tell them the truth. Do you now see how this idea of women constantly monkey branching is made up by men and spread between them? Also, you didn't answer my other question - Or the implications that has caused to women now in their 30s who didn't do what you did? Can you tell me what implications you are referring to? What terrible th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 11:23 PM
26	To 35+F, what do you think of men 35+M who went on strike against you? what I really want to know, is for those who did this (cheating, monkey branching excessively) to good men in their 20s, if you are already 35+F, do you even feel bad for what you did? Do you even care? Do you even understand the damage you caused to these men? No, this is not what happens. I never "monkey branched", but all the guys I dated in my 20's and early 30's had one thing in common. Their first question when I broke up with them was "Is there someone else?". Every time! And even though …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 02:18 PM
13	RedPillers: if women are basically children, why do you not look after them like they’re children? Women that fit my definition are considered adults. Also, unattractive. Wow, so you're fully admitting that you're attracted to children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 10:30 AM
11	RedPillers: if women are basically children, why do you not look after them like they’re children? As long as he is the one paying I can't call him a child. Why is paying money the one thing that differentitates an adult from a child in your mind? These days the man is not the one paying in many cases, do you not consider them men when they are not paying? It kinda sounds like you just think SAHM's are like children because they are not paying, but all other women are adults?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 10:16 AM
–	Now that my value is high, I don't want to commit anymore, is that common for men ? It is a relatable position for a lot of men, you’re suddenly desirable I really really don't think being suddenly desirable in your thirties after being undesirable up to that point is a relatable position for many men at all. In fact, it kinda sounds like a fantasy based on the good old well known manosphere revenge fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/23 06:09 PM
-1	Why do men say women have high standards? Every man in the world could overlook a woman's lack of income if she's attractive and pleasant. You don't actually think men are all this stupid do you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 12:20 AM
-10	Why do men say women have high standards? What happened to feminism and equality? Oh its still there, doing the things it was intended for, not the things it wasn't intended for i.e helping short, fat or broke men get laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 12:17 AM
5	Can women do/feel these things to the extent men can? I'm just wondering, why do sometimes women get flustered in survival situations? And do you wonder why men sometimes get flustered in survival situations? Is it because they never got that training Yes, a lot of people in the modern world got no wilderness survival training. That includes a lot of men too. because men would always do it? Men would always do what exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 10:34 PM
6	Can women do/feel these things to the extent men can? How old are you and what level of education do you have? I fail to understand how you need elaboration on this, but you can read up on it in a high school text book. Honestly OP, just going on the post and your replies under it, one would be forgiven that as an alien you are doing a terrible job of blending in with the humans in order to learn more about them. Time to go back to the spaceship before they catch on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 07:47 PM
2	Can women do/feel these things to the extent men can? men in general are a lot less allergic to responsbility. Based on what? My experience has been the opposite tbh. Are you basing this opinion on any facts at all or just your dislike of women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 07:30 PM
12	Can women do/feel these things to the extent men can? Your whole post seems to be asking the question are women human, like men are? I mean, I've read some ridiculous posts on this sub that seem to be written by someone who has not only never met a woman before but also just never met any humans before, but this one really takes the cake. Do women feel like dominating their field? For every man who has ever dominated a particular field, there are hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands who don't dominate that field. That's how competition works,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 07:06 PM
10	Mens wants dont matter I think the problem is beginning to become clear here. Would bet money that OP's mother gave him everything he wanted his whole life, so he decided that's the measure of a good woman. So any woman he encounters who doesn't give him what he wants (to stick his dick in probably) he decides is a "feeemale" not worth considering a human being. Mother likely made OP into the spoiled, entitled person he is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 01:51 PM
8	Mens wants dont matter females dont see as as human beings The irony of this sentence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 01:20 PM
–	In a house with no kids and where the man is at work from 7am - 5pm, what daily tasks do women do around the house Why though? There are so few of them. Why would you even care what they do?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 02:40 PM
5	Q4W: How do you feel about other women defending passport bros? A lot of the men who go overseas are just men victimized by hypergamy (western women wanting someone whom they consider better than them in some way) Hard disagree. I spent a number of years in an Asian country and met plenty of these guys, they are generally not victims of anything. They are generally from decent, middle class families, got a good education and on paper should have had everything going for them. But, they tend to be lazy, spoiled and entitled, and have rubbish social skills whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/23 05:41 PM
2	CMV: Women complain about the double standards when it comes to sex while also identifying the reason when it’s convenient why is paternity testing so openly shamed It isn't. You obviously spend a lot of time online and in the "manosphere" and that's why you think this. Women in general are against men requesting paternity tests out of the blue after a baby is born, thus accusing her of cheating out of the blue, and not against paternity tests in the situations they are needed for. why are there places in the world where it is banned? Name the PLACES where they are banned? You can't, you would have replied "France" …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 11:05 PM
2	CMV: Women complain about the double standards when it comes to sex while also identifying the reason when it’s convenient i assume the men who wanted children don't have to be asked by the courts to financially support them, yes My premise is not in the least based on either of these things. You are avoiding answering to what I wrote. Even if you go back to a time when we didn't have so much contraception available, say 100 or more years ago, there's no argument that it's ok for men to sleep around, as that just resulted in men fathering multiple "illegitimate" children that they weren't legally required to care fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 10:26 PM
–	When i think child support laws will chance You learned that, and you still wrote the words : i assume the men who wanted children don't have to be asked by the courts to financially support them, yes Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 10:12 PM
6	CMV: Women complain about the double standards when it comes to sex while also identifying the reason when it’s convenient No..I’m not. You're not? Wait, so what does this sentence mean? : For example, when talking about birth control there’s an argument that men should get a vasectomy rather than the woman getting a hysterectomy because a man can get impregnate numerous women but women can only have one pregnancy. ???? The reading comprehension skills in this sub are abysmal I agree, but it's not usually me who has problems with reading comprehension, so please enlighten me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 10:10 PM
–	When i think child support laws will chance You presume wrong then (in many cases, not all of course).	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 09:57 PM
4	CMV: Women complain about the double standards when it comes to sex while also identifying the reason when it’s convenient Because you are saying that in a monogamous couple (and those are the people generally who consider vasectomy or hysterectomy after they've had a family) it makes more sense for the woman to get a hysterectomy, as the man can impregnate many women? But it doesn't. The vasectomy makes more sense since it's an easier procedure with a very short recovery time and presumably those men aren't planning to impregnate many women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 09:56 PM
4	CMV: Women complain about the double standards when it comes to sex while also identifying the reason when it’s convenient This post makes no sense. Often times, women will complain about the double standards in society regarding sex. Usually the complaint is something along the lines of how men are applauded for having lots of sex while women are shamed for having a lot of sex. Yes, this is a double standard and women are right not to be happy with it. This double standard makes total sense but many women only acknowledge it when it’s convenient to an argument. It doesn't really make sense in 2023. We have a lot of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 09:49 PM
–	Men and women are both human, but do women want things men do? Could you please elaborate on the main character thing, that was interesting. You would assume that people in general would expect to be the main character in their own life, right? However, for a long time (and still ongoing to some extent - as I said it could take several generations) women were raised and socialised to be a secondary/support character in a man's life. And men were raised and socialised to be the main character in not only their own life, but also that of their wife and kids a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 06:54 PM
–	Men and women are both human, but do women want things men do? So we know men have historically wanted social status, land they can call their's, to work with their hands and shape the environment around them (building, etc) Do women want these things too? Or do women have a different set of needs? As a woman I am sure that many women want social status, why would men and women be different in this regard? Land they call their own? Of course women want this. I am not American, but I have seen reports recently that in the US single women now make up a bigger…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 06:15 PM
5	When i think child support laws will chance Are you under the impression that child support only has to be paid for "accidental" kids? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 09:15 AM
3	There’s no reason not to get a paternity test unless there is some n fact doubt Wait, are you referring to children as "fuck trophies"? That's gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 10:14 PM
3	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. What a dumb question	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 12:13 PM
2	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. I think you don't understand the meaning of the word "proof". Goodbye.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 09:01 PM
4	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. You still haven't provided proof of anything. Either do that or don't bother replying. I think I can guess which option you will go for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 08:56 PM
5	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. Nothing thanks, I literally just finished my dinner. It was lovely, I decided by myself what I wanted to eat and cooked it myself too!	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 08:43 PM
4	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. So you say, that's not proof of anything. Do you also date millennial and gen z men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 08:42 PM
2	Do you have any other quotes like "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" that you will be telling your sons? Oh I think we're mad at both. Obviously women should do whatever men tell her to do at any given moment /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 08:33 PM
3	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. So?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 08:23 PM
8	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. On what planet has anyone claimed that it’s common for women to have an OF account? On manosphere spaces it is commonly claimed, I've read this opinion numerous times from various people on this sub too. As for the rest of your list - well, those are pretty common characteristics in millennial and Gen Z women I call bullshit. Got any proof?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 08:05 PM
7	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. Brainwashed?! Like, sorry, but unless you were an only child who was homeschooled and not allowed to interact with others, you would have seen with your own eyes growing up that people of all genders can be entitled brats etc. I have to wonder about these men that think they were brainwashed to believe women are all perfect and amazing and it wasn't until they were fully grown men that it occurred to them that women are human beings just like men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 08:01 PM
19	“modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption. Nah it paints women as entitled brats who are too stupid to make their own decisions and have no accountability, while painting men as smart, logical, decent people who always take accountability for their actions (lol) and are being treated oh so badly by all those mean women. It's ridiculous nonsense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 07:10 PM
3	Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy? I agree, Im not entitled to a woman Good I support scrapping all the social programs. All of them? Wow! Even the social programs that help disabled people? You're in favour of a dog eat dog world and anyone who can't keep up should just die? I mean, that's your opinion but most people are more compassionate than that so it won't happen. If women want to avoid all men, A ok in my books But women don't want to avoid all men, just the ones who believe they are entitled to women's bodies, and especi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 08:17 PM
4	Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy? Cuz women vote to tax me so much I'm forced to pay for social programs I don't want to, to help people that want nothing to do with me. If all women want to avoid all men, cool, I don't mind, just stop stealing more of my money to make your lives easier. As a woman who has never stolen your money, or that of any man, and who pays my taxes just like all the men and women I associate with, I find your comments insulting. I'd happily be single with 30% more net income You can be happily single whil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 07:56 PM
–	A thought experiment about gender relationships "Soon, Grogs commit the vast majority of sexual assault, rape and violent crime despite only making up about 1/3rd of the population, with most victims being males" Are grogs keeping society afloat? are grogs working mining oil? are grogs keeping the law? are grogs saving peoples from burning buildings? are grogs responsible for every single scientific advancement in the past years? are grogs keeping my water and eletricity running? are grogs paying most of the taxes? are grogs building my home?…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:34 PM
–	A thought experiment about gender relationships You do realise that your comment here is basically saying that sexual assault of women should be a reward afforded to men for "mining oil" and "saving people from burning buildings". Jfc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 11:48 AM
4	CMV: The best sexual achievement is taking a ton of virginities Are you aware that "the world" doesn't care? You could spend your whole life trying to prove to the world that you are high value, instead of actually enjoying your life and then realise no one cares. Most people are not judging everyone they meet as being high or low value sexually and romantically, most people are just living their life. It really sounds like you've spent too much time online and need to live in the real world more. Hopefully the therapy you have booked will help you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 10:15 PM
3	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. You're the accuser, that's up to you to provide evidence. Lmao what?! There's no "accuser" here. I didn't accuse you of anything. The person who made a claim (you) is the one who needs to provide evidence to back up said claim (that's how a debate works), which you have failed to do. It always makes me laugh when "manosphere" guys so confidently make wild claims and then get all flustered when they are expected to back them up with evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 11:38 PM
2	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. And you still have not shown any evidence. Time to admit you just have no evidence maybe?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 11:08 PM
3	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. You dated an unemployed man or a man who became unemployed while you dated him? They're 2 very different things. See women like to try to manipulate the wording here to act virtuous when they are never virtuous. They are never looking to bring someone up, they only want men at the finish line. When he became broke you probably started to lose respect for him as well. See, none of this is evidence of men lining up to date broke and homeless women. Try responding to what I asked, that's how discus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 09:43 PM
5	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. You don't see women lining up to date broke or homeless men. I can't wait for you to show us evidence of men lining up to date broke or homeless women. It's so fun when people make wildly incorrect claims that they can't defend when called out. Literally can't wait!	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 07:41 PM
8	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. Women are attracted because the guy is an asshole If you are really sure this is true, you will have no problem showing some proof of this, and demonstrating that women in general are generally always attracted to men BECAUSE the guy is an asshole. Will be interesting to see if you even attempt it or just ignore. women will monkey branch This shit makes me laugh because I know from my own experience that "women monkey branch" is bullshit that men make up to avoid dealing with their own problems …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 07:31 PM
3	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. Thinking that having to have your life together is a male-only problem Yeah, this is really the part I take issue with. Like, my parents raised me and all my siblings to work for our money, I mean how would we survive otherwise? These guys are constantly suggesting that women don't need to work or pay bills because a man will willingly do that for them. In what world does that happen? No man has ever paid my bills for me. I have however had more than one boyfriend who expected me to pay his bill…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 10:47 PM
2	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. Well the title of that says "behaviour in adolescents" so I won't bother reading it. Got anything about adults?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:54 PM
5	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. misogynists and benevolent sexists gets laid the most According to what stats?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:32 PM
10	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. Fucking obviously that's abuse. Obviously, but women can't even not do that. They want everything from you, but they can't even not abuse you. I've pretty much killed myself trying to be an actually decent partner Do you know what dude? As a woman, in the past, I killed myself trying to be a decent partner. And guess what - those guys that I was with didn't appreciate that. I obviously chose the wrong guys, because I see plenty of my friends and family members in relationships with decent people…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:11 PM
14	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. I do like women. Do you think I share my Reddit account with real people? men are the only ones held accountable for pretty much fucking everything. Women get a pass for everything Tell us again how your attitude towards women is not the problem?!	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:54 PM
9	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. "Women are held to much less rigorous material expectations than men. A woman that just has a car and can drive herself places but nothing else materially going for her probably won't have that counted against her by most men. For men, however, all the things OP described having himself tend to be considered just an element of the bare minimum." No, not in the 21st century. Having a job and a place to live are considered the bare minimum for all adults, not just the male ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:49 PM
6	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. Pussies are amoral. Period. But the humans they're attached to are not. Did you forget that they are attached to a real life human? Or do you consider the attached human just a part of the object?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:28 PM
22	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. I'm disappointed that you didn't even take a few minutes to think about your attitude like I suggested. Instead you replied immediately to tell me I'm wrong, even though I was doing you a favour. women are terrible communicators. They just disappear and you're left questioning everything. The games and bullshit will give you a nervous breakdown while obliterating your faith in humanity. Wow, are you not aware that men do all of this too? You just didn't think of that because of your attitude tow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:48 PM
27	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. I'm sad because I just feel like I'm tossed out for no reason conveyed to me. I'll do you a favour and convey it to you. I have a job, a home to maintain, a car to maintain, and I'm trying to fucking schedule something to do with another person because it's really fucking always on us, isn't it? Like goddamn. If a woman even has a driver's license and a car, that's an accomplishment. Your attitude. You clearly look down on women and feel they should be doing more to "earn" your interest. But, wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:26 PM
7	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think suggesting something like hypergamy is a real pattern of behavior from women and therefore being you should be more aware of it to better protect yourself is considered misogyny. You're right that hypergamy WAS a pattern of behaviour from women in past patriarchal times. Think about it - if you were expected to get married and have children and in fact the only way to get yourself a decent life was to marry and be provided for by the other person, you would choose the best you could get right? Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 11:15 PM
8	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think As I understand it a redpilled man is a man who understands and accepts that women are attracted to money and status. You've misunderstood. If that is correct, is that so bad to be a guy who believes that? It's not correct. And if it's true, but women do not like redpillers, then why do women feel offended that guys think that about them if it's true? It's not true. Can't women just accept that they are attracted to status and money and own it, if it's true, rather than be offended at that notio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 11:06 PM
11	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think these days it's generally up Do you have any proof that women date "up" more "these days" than in the past? No? Didn't think so. You just made that up in your head.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 11:02 PM
14	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think It is generally true that alpha fucks beta bucks is an observable phenomenon and most women participate in it. Are you sure about that? I'll tell you what I've observed. My friends and acquaintances who are married with children all met their partner in their early to mid 20's, when they both had a career and earned a similar amount, got married in their early 30's,then had children. But, the woman gave up her career when they started to have kids (either gave it up completely for 10 or so years…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 10:59 PM
10	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think Treating women like flawed humans in the same way men have always been treated and having standards like wanting to marry a woman that hasn’t slept around isn’t misogyny. I'm fully aware that treating women like flawed humans is not misogynistic and I never suggested it was. in the same way men have always been treated Have they? This comment makes me wonder how old you are. having standards like wanting to marry a woman that hasn’t slept around You can have any standards you want for who you ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 10:44 PM
10	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think I don't. Thanks for your concern though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 10:22 PM
13	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think How so? All their beliefs treat women like a monolith who all act in a certain way (which is always a bad way), it's just negative generalisation of women to absolve men of accountability. If you believe it's not misogyny that's your choice but it clearly is, so you're just choosing to believe something that isn't true because it makes you feel better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 10:17 PM
14	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think You're the one who said it when you said that most men are more redpill than we think. Redpill is misogyny therefore if you think most men are redpill then you think most men are misogynistic. Guess you are misandric as well as misogynistic 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 10:10 PM
2	The average American man is much more redpilled than you think So the label of "RP" in itself is deemed inappropriate but when you toss the label and just use talking points, most men are much more RP than they will ever admit. Most men are misogynistic, no shit. They've been trained to be unfortunately. Just because redpill is a "modern" version of misogyny doesn't make it special or in anyway better than the older style of misogyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 09:54 PM
2	The best way for men to weed out the women only interested in free meals and using men is to split the bill. No thanks sister.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 05:32 PM
17	The best way for men to weed out the women only interested in free meals and using men is to split the bill. Is there really that many of them though? Here in my country I've never known a woman who would date a guy she doesn't like to get a free meal, I mean she could just pay for her own meal by going out with a friend rather than a date she doesn't even like. I think it says a lot about your attitude towards women that you've decided in your head that most women would be prepared to go out with someone they are not attracted to in order to leech off them for food. I've never done that nor seen anyon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 12:15 PM
12	Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship… Remember more girls don't take accountability vs men. How can anyone "remember" something that isn't true?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 11:51 PM
6	Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship… You're just repeating the same thing over and over. It's getting pathetic. Show me the proof that men are more reasonable than women and we can talk. Otherwise this conversation is over, because you very clearly don't want your view changed and all you're doing is defending your misogynistic take without reasonable discussion. If you were really a man you would be able to have reasonable discussion right? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 10:16 PM
4	Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship… No, but the way they process many things are not even close to the same. What way is that? What way do men process things and what way do women process things, and how are these ways different, and do you have proof that these ways apply strictly based on sex with no overlap? I also never called women dumb or unintelligent You implied it. I know plenty of brilliant women. They, too, typically say one thing and do another. As do many men, what's your point here exactly? Your OP seemed to suggest …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 10:01 PM
1	Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship… I know they firmly believe the things they say, it’s just often directly at odds to what they actually do/actually happens. Jesus, you're not learning anything here are you? You asked us to change your view but of course you don't really want that do you? This reply is in the vein of "women might mean well but they are just not smart enough to actually know what they want, so they can't ever be taken seriously". Don't you see that? Let me ask you a serious question : do you think women and men a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 09:50 PM
–	Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship… I’m stating the way things are. This is like the misogynist mantra. Just telling it like it is, lol. Always based on twitter posts, tik toks or youtube videos, never how it actually is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 09:33 PM
7	Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship… I just don’t think taking them super seriously is a great idea if you really want solutions. Actions > words Aaaand... There's the misogyny! Just to be clear, you are saying that you don't think it's a good idea to take women very seriously if you want solutions to a problem? I guess you are one of these people who believes men are "problem solvers" and women have their heads in the clouds? All I can say is you are missing out in life by writing off half the population like that. this is a super…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 09:26 PM
4	Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship… Something I’ve noticed time and time again is that typically women really don’t know what they want until it’s actually happening right in front of them (even despite the fact they seem incredibly sure they do). This is just another iteration of "women are too stupid to know what's good for them, they need a man to decide for them". Are we not past this shit in 2023? My reasoning is because in almost every discussion topic surrounding relationships, there is always the option for women to turn a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 09:11 PM
3	What if a man is celibate for 15 years in order to work till 35, and wants to be with a woman 10-15 years younger ? Women can find new sexual partners easily, though - much easier than men can. That's what would constitute "cutting off sex" in that situation. So people can end the relationship if they're not satisfied with it? Yeah, we all know that already, you don't need redpill to tell you that. Doesn't change the fact that most relationships are not transactional in the way you describe, or the fact that the person in control of the money automatically has the power balance in their favour in a way that y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:21 PM
8	The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make it at least 80% of men who will not make it Will not make what? Way more than 20% of men get sex/a girlfriend/a wife or long term partner. What goal do you have in mind when you say they won't make it? improving yourself as a man takes a LOT of hard work which most men aren't ready to do. Well, without sounding mean, that's their own problem. If people aren't prepared to do the hard work to get what they want in life, nobody is likely to hand them what they want. What do you expect? And even if you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 08:51 PM
5	What if a man is celibate for 15 years in order to work till 35, and wants to be with a woman 10-15 years younger ? You're making the mistake of thinking that relationships are generally made up of a man trading his money for sex and a woman trading sex for his money. That's not the case these days. For example, I personally wouldn't cut off sex with my partner if he was pissing me off, as I also enjoy sex and I would miss it as much as he would. Why would I do that to myself? But I also wouldn't rely on a man for money, because that's one sided and he could cut off the money without doing damage to himself. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 08:09 PM
8	What if a man is celibate for 15 years in order to work till 35, and wants to be with a woman 10-15 years younger ? A younger woman getting her older partner to buy her lots of things is probably more in control of the relationship than the other way around. No, she wouldn't be, because he can cut off the supply at any time if she "displeases" him, or doesn't do what he told her. The one with the money tends to have more control. Message to the younger ladies : work on your career, and keep your career going even if a man tells you he will "look after" you. Remember, he can pull the plug on that any time he w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 07:41 PM
0	Do you think men bring the more, same, or less to the table as they did in the past? That's a nice strawman you have made there. Why don't you tell us what you think affirmative action is then and why it's a problem? If you really were the best for the job or promotion then you won't need affirmative action anymore RIGHT? It means that removing it should only be positive RIGHT? Unless of course women are benefitting from it... Anymore? I didn't need it in the first place. It doesn't exist outside the US. Remember that the original comment I replied to suggested that "most" women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 02:23 PM
1	Do you think men bring the more, same, or less to the table as they did in the past? You clearly don't know what affirmative action is. Let me guess, you think it means women just get handed jobs they are not qualified for over men who are qualified for them? How do you explain all the women in countries that don't have affirmative action? What mental gymnastics will you use to explain how those women were handed jobs they don't deserve? If you don't want people to make those accusations maybe you should start speaking out against affirmative action. Men who are not good enough …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 10:25 AM
3	Do you think men bring the more, same, or less to the table as they did in the past? Bullshit. Proof that "most" women's jobs are there just for a corporation to claim they hire women? Got nothing? Didn't think so. You're just insulting all the women who have worked hard to get to their position.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 09:18 PM
–	Men don't get it. Women have moved on I'm still waiting btw. I have zero idea why you posted the article above which has no connection to what we were talking about. So are you admitting you were wrong or are you trying to find something to back up what you claimed above (hint: you won't find anything so you may as well admit you were wrong).	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:01 PM
–	Men don't get it. Women have moved on ??	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 07:07 PM
–	Men don't get it. Women have moved on in some countries such as Sweden they legally want to stop men from marrying elsewhere This is completely untrue, I've argued with people about this before and it's really annoying that the "manosphere" is still repeating this shit like Chinese whispers. No one in Sweden or any other country is trying to legally stop men from marrying elsewhere. Care to tell us what makes you think this? Guaranteed you have nothing except a comment you read on reddit that you took at face value, even though that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 06:46 PM
6	Why should men commit? What makes being my wife better than being my GF There is not one fact in the comment you replied to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 06:38 PM
30	I've never understood why famous male celebrities chose to date/marry other female celebrities You could go to any poor village in the world and find a hot, loyal wife EASILY. You're making the mistake of thinking that all men want a poor, uneducated, submissive puppy dog as a wife, who will be so grateful to be with him that she will do everything he says without question and never voice her own opinions. But, only insecure men fantasise about having a wife like that. Confident, self-assured people want a partner on their level, someone they can bounce their thoughts and opinions off, so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 10:03 PM
2	Why is asking for a paternity test a relationship ender? Ah Earth lover guy, you and me have had words before about how useful it would be for you to learn some critical thinking, I see you haven't taken my advice. Pity, but that's your prerogative. Riddle me this though, you claim "cause feminists" then link an article that shows the percentage results for paternity tests that men and women paid to have done. How is this related to feminists being the cause of anything?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/23 06:17 PM
–	Normalize being a cat lady. Kitties are great! I genuinely believe that a lot of women become cat ladies because mutual reciprocation is too big of an ask for them in relationships. You do know that more men have cats than women do, right? Are you going to do some mental gymnastics now to explain how it's different for men and doesn't mean that "mutual reciprocation is too big of an ask for them in relationships"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/23 08:46 PM
2	Most modern women have a problem with orbiters and it is one of the single worst issues in modern dating They are outliers, not the norm. Ah, the redpill mantra, lol. "It doesn't matter how many examples I am shown of people who don't fit my narrative, I will claim every one of them is an outlier". I hope you're aware how pathetic it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/23 09:10 PM
4	Most modern women have a problem with orbiters and it is one of the single worst issues in modern dating Women use men for time, money and emotional support; Men use women for sex. You're forgetting the men who use women for time, money and emotional support (yes, they exist, you're just too biased to see it) and the women who use men for sex (yes, they exist, you're just too biased to see it).	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/23 08:45 PM
6	Most modern women have a problem with orbiters and it is one of the single worst issues in modern dating I would estimate at least a solid 55 to 68 percent of women are or have been benefiting from this type of situation. This is just an assumption on your part, based on no data or facts. Decent women will cut those relationships off and stop letting the guy be led on by them, but in today’s society those types of women are far and few between. Decent women are few and far between? Another assumption based on no facts or data. In my personal opinion these kinds of situations plus non-mature men who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/23 08:06 PM
4	The fact that blue pillers never have genuine counterpoints or refutation to the countless valid TRP grievances, and only seem to be able to respond with insults and ad hominem attacks, is a strong credit to the legitimacy of TRP. Redpill actually makes claims which can be evaluated for truth content All the redpill claims have been evaluated numerous times on this sub and others, and the result is unanimous; they are rubbish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 07:17 PM
19	The fact that blue pillers never have genuine counterpoints or refutation to the countless valid TRP grievances, and only seem to be able to respond with insults and ad hominem attacks, is a strong credit to the legitimacy of TRP. TRP consistently provide facts They don't though. I've been on this sub for some time and I consistently see redpillers making wild sweeping claims. For example: "all women are hypergamous it's in their nature" or "women constantly monkey branch" or "men have no choice but to date any woman who wants to date him, therefore he has no accountability for what happens in a relationship, women are the choosers" etc etc I could go on. When people calmly and clearly point out how and why these claims a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 06:23 PM
6	The only reason you hear so many women say that men overrate their appearance is because they are projecting, as any balanced individual can clearly see women do this infinitely more than men. how have you not seen all of the bullshit people post on social media Well for one thing I don't bother with nonsense social media, I use it to keep in touch with people but I don't seek out people posting ridiculous things. I have never, and I mean never, seen or heard anyone calling a morbidly obese person "hot", either on social media or in real life. Why don't you show us some proof that this is happening regularly? Lizzo?? I seriously doubt there are many men who think Lizzo is "hot", but s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 08:41 PM
11	The only reason you hear so many women say that men overrate their appearance is because they are projecting, as any balanced individual can clearly see women do this infinitely more than men. our society glorifies female bodies.. Even if they weight 400 pounds, they're called "hot". Literally nobody is calling morbidly obese people "hot". You're deluded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 08:01 PM
16	The only reason you hear so many women say that men overrate their appearance is because they are projecting, as any balanced individual can clearly see women do this infinitely more than men. Average looking men would never act like they were superior to or reject women in their own league. Hahaha. Really? Never? You're joking right? Average looking men would never act like they were superior to or reject women in their own league. In fact they frequently are very self aware of their capabilities and usually simp for women far less attractive than them, and that goes for men in general. Anyone who suggests that one gender includes more self aware people than another is a moron in my …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 07:42 PM
3	Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradiction If shitting on men or a demographic of men is used as a means to boost self-esteem, is it really self-esteem? No, but I didn't suggest it is. People don't gain self esteem by putting others down, it comes from within.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 11:38 PM
13	Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradiction You're just repeating the same thing here. by believing in your worth, you're also saying that person doesn't have that worth No you aren't. If you were to ask me out, I might say no because I'm not attracted to you, there's no chemistry or I don't feel we would be a good fit. The fact that I have some self esteem does not mean that I'm trying to negate your self esteem by not saying yes to the date. Your self esteem is independent of my self esteem, because it's yours and not mine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 11:05 PM
25	Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradiction the self-esteem of these girls contradicts the self-esteem of those unattractive men. No. You having self esteem doesn't take away from the self esteem of others. That's why the word "self" is in there. Your self esteem applies only to how you see and feel about yourself, not about the esteem others hold for you. It's as if you're arguing that women should have less self esteem lest the poor men feel worthless. But those men need to work on their own self esteem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 10:49 PM
11	Beggars can’t be choosers I'm 40+, and the women my age that I meet simply don't meet my standards. I'm not especially choosy: Please don't be obese, please have hobbies, please be curious about the world and want to learn about something (really, anything). As a woman, I feel the exact same way about the guys I meet, and I'm also 40+. I dated some of these guys when I was younger (no curiosity about the world, or anything really, no interest in learning new things or in competing with others in any way) and honestly the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 05:51 PM
1	Thoughts on Passport Bros? Childish response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 08:54 AM
2	Thoughts on Passport Bros? You would prefer those men die alone? Get a grip. There is no big conspiracy against you. Women aren't out there wishing men they are not attracted to would all die alone. If you accept that most people don't care about you since they don't even know you, then focus on what you want in your own life, and work on that, things might go better for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 08:54 AM
14	What's wrong with average men? No one wants her pussy. There’s plenty to go around. Wow, you've solved the biggest issue on this sub. All the guys crying and whining incessantly that they can't get laid can shut up now, because according to you there's plenty of pussy to go around. What gives her the entitlement that she deserves that top guy with those 6 stellar attributes? Show me where she says that she deserves that. Hint: she doesn't say that. And even if she did find him, why does he have to settle “down” with her? He d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 09:25 PM
-2	Thoughts on Passport Bros? Someone who is good with kids, humble, wants a large family, and someone who isn’t wrapped up in their career. Ah, so your idea of "marriage material" is an upper class lady from the 1800's lol. Is she allowed to even have a career? As long as she doesn't take it seriously or feel proud of it is that it? You should be no. 1 and her career comes second eh? Do you think success is a masculine thing and successful women are a turnoff? I'm only asking because I've seen these sentiments parroted many…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 09:07 PM
3	Thoughts on Passport Bros? Dating is just better elsewhere. As someone who has travelled widely and dated in several countries I disagree with this statement. How much travelling have you done (and how much dating in other countries?) to be so sure dating is better "elsewhere"? It’s a lot easier to find a “marriage material” partner in other parts of the world. You will of course have to define what you believe to be "marriage material". I suspect it will be different from what I think. If your definition contains the wor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 08:40 PM
0	Thoughts on Passport Bros? She gets a financially stable guy, he gets a pretty woman. It’s the way the world has always worked Except it works less and less like this in the western world. In many cases, he is also getting a financially stable woman, and she is allowed to have standards for the man she chooses and can turn down someone she doesn't find attractive even if he's financially stable. Unfortunately some men can't handle the situation so they want to flee to a place they think still works in the way you describe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 08:19 PM
2	Thoughts on Passport Bros? Do you believe such men are low in value? If so, how can such men afford such a lifestyle? All the ones I met were middle class guys. They got a good education and had everything going for them on paper but found it hard to hold down a job long term, and couldn't get a girlfriend or certainly couldn't keep one long term. Often because of anger issues, poor social skills, laziness, entitlement etc. As to how they could afford to go abroad, their parents helped them out with the money for it, thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 08:00 PM
19	What's wrong with average men? Jesus it's like you people can't read. She is not dating "up", she's actually not dating at all. And she's not holding out for "a very slim possibility", she knows there is no one that would be worth her dating, "nil chance" I believe she said. Shouldn't you guys be happy that she's not "settling" for you and using you for your resources, so you're free to date women who are genuinely interested in you. Why are so many of you guys angry about this woman living her life without dating?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 07:50 PM
24	What's wrong with average men? Yep, so rather than "settling" which is something you guys are against right? She is choosing to stay single,as she doesn't need a man to pay her bills or provide any resources. Shouldn't you be happy about that? If a guy comes along who ticks all her boxes and would add to her life rather than detract from it she might consider dating him, but she knows that won't happen so she's happy staying single. Why do you have a problem with that? Is she hoarding pussy that you feel entitled to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 07:46 PM
15	What's wrong with average men? She wouldn't be interested in hooking up with you, did you not get that from her comment? Also, I don't give a fuck who has a higher or lower "n count", grow up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 07:20 PM
16	What's wrong with average men? Most likely she hit the wall and is simply avoiding dating as a coping mechanism to avoid confronting the fact that she’ll never land a dude who meets her standards. She’d rather put her head in the sand and not me reminded of her low SMV You really just made up the whole (very unoriginal) revenge fantasy for this woman, you know, that revenge fantasy that any woman not interested in dating you will "hit the wall" and end up sad and alone and wish she had given you a chance. That's not real life…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 07:15 PM
27	What's wrong with average men? She’s not interested in men unless she can extract value from them Well you just made this up about her. There's nothing in her comment to suggest this. But she wants to move into his place that’s nicer than hers. You made this up about her too. Where did she suggest she wants to move into a man's house rather than them getting a house together or him moving into hers? Sounds like you hate women so much you are choosing to see misandry where it doesn't exist, so that you can feel like you are ri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 07:02 PM
22	What's wrong with average men? Nah mate, that's not what hypergamy means. She isn't dating "up" is she? She's choosing not to date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 06:41 PM
38	CMV: It’s not misogynistic or controlling for men to expect/ask the women they date or marry to not dress like they are still single Sounds like you think you can read that guy's mind lol. In truth, you have no idea what he thinks or even if the woman walking behind him was his girlfriend or not. You've concocted a little story in your head about these random people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/23 05:31 PM
38	CMV: It’s not misogynistic or controlling for men to expect/ask the women they date or marry to not dress like they are still single Is this the weekly "it's not controlling for men to control what their girlfriend wears or how she behaves, stop telling us that we don't get to dictate our girlfriends lives" post? Crying about it on reddit over and over won't make the behavior less controlling sorry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/23 05:29 PM
23	Would you rather share a high status millionaire or have a low status/earning man such as a cab driver all to yourself? (the cab driver has no ambitions to change his socioeconomic status in the future) I would never ever be comfortable sharing a partner with someone else. I mean, he couldn't even be a partner to me if we weren't exclusive right. So, the cab driver obviously. There's nothing wrong with that profession. And I work too so between us we would have enough money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 10:33 PM
1	What, if any, is your concept of "fairness" in dating? Because I don't take orders from you. If you are so interested, look into it on your own. Thanks for making it super clear you are arguing in bad faith. I hope you get over your hate some day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 10:10 PM
3	What, if any, is your concept of "fairness" in dating? The fact that a law is not written does not mean that it is not there. Well it's clearly there in your head, but unless it's written down by the government it doesn't exist. You know this as well as anyone does. Try arguing in good faith next time. There are plenty of examples on the Internet about allegations and lawsuits brought against not very graceful guys who had the enormous audacity to try to meet a girl. Why don't you show us examples? Now make sure your examples clearly show that the g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 09:54 PM
5	What, if any, is your concept of "fairness" in dating? If the guy is handsome it's flirting. If the guy is ugly it's harassment. Clearly your opinion. But, things that are considered criminal acts have laws against them. Show me the law and I'll believe you lol. It's hilarious that you feel you can just declare something is considered a criminal act and then just give your opinion and think that proves something. Nah, I'm pretty sure it's from not being able to date. In our ridiculous society No. The reason inc*ls are considered sexist, misogynist e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 09:27 PM
1	What, if any, is your concept of "fairness" in dating? Considering men who are unsuccessful in dating to be bad people (misogynistic, sexist, racist and all that) Inc*ls are not considered bad people because they are unsuccessful in dating, it's for other reasons. considering a criminal act when an unsuccessful or unattractive man approaches a woman Well luckily an unsuccessful or unattractive man approaching a woman is not considered a criminal act.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 09:12 PM
9	What, if any, is your concept of "fairness" in dating? Guys just describe the way things are Haha. No they don't. Guys here constantly say things like "women refuse to date anyone under 6 foot" and other nonsense with no basis in reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 08:46 PM
7	CMV: Red pill views of family law (divorce, custody, child support) have little to no basis in reality I won't even bother You already went to the bother of writing a long comment trying to "debunk" the OP, but you didn't seem to be aware that you look foolish when the OP has sources and data and you have none. When called out your response is I won't even bother, lmao! Your next move will prove what kind of person you are. Will you be a person with integrity and admit you were wrong? Or will you slink away into the night, never to interact with this post again while convincing yourself you are r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 07:03 PM
7	CMV: Red pill views of family law (divorce, custody, child support) have little to no basis in reality I assume your either a woman or a fat fuck Your response to the OP providing sources to show that your points were incorrect is to suggest they are a woman or a fat man, both of which are inferior to you in your mind I'm guessing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 06:59 PM
2	Does a man have to be better in some aspects than a woman in order for her to be attracted to him? Most women are, ideally, looking for a superior in every sense of the word. I just wish they wouldn't deny it. "I wish women would stop saying what they really think and say what I want them to, to support my narrative. If women would just say what I want then I can be smug in believing my narrative that I made up in my head and feel justified in hating them" This is what you sound like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 10:18 PM
5	Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall. Thanks for the links, I had never seen that claimed before, cool. It means that most women are better off looking for a man rather than staying single. Nah that depends on each individual woman and what will make her happier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 09:44 PM
6	Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall. Btw, your link above brought me to an article, not a study.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 09:19 PM
22	Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall. I'm refuting the common claim from femcels/misandrists that "the happiest demographic are single childless women". Are you sure about that? I've only ever ever heard it claimed that single women by choice tend to be happier than married women, not that single women are the happiest demographic out of all demographics. Can you provide some examples of people claiming what you say they are claiming? (and there's no reason these examples need to be from "femcels" or "misandrists" in particular). Bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 09:16 PM
–	Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall. Yup some statisticians and economists debunked his study about a week after he published it yet everyone still loves to refer to that study to bolster their arguments Somehow this reminds me of another "study" that people here love to refer you to bolster their arguments, even though it doesn't even say what they claim it does, oh and it's not even a study. Yeah, I'm talking about the ok cupid survey.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 09:05 PM
41	Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall. Predictably, the happiest women are women married to men This may or may not be true but that doesn't mean that the individual woman you marry will be happier with you than being single. What exactly are you trying to prove here? Surely you know that the women who are married to great guys that they love are happy to be married, and the women married to douchebag assholes who treat them like shit are not happy (same applies vice versa for men).	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 09:01 PM
–	Should men be expected to intervene when random women are in trouble? I go out of my way to help women and men all the time. Nah mate, above you said you wouldn't go out of your way to help fellow humans because "they sure as shit aren't going to be helping you?" The rest of us can read, you won't get away with pretending you said something different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 06:12 PM
–	Should men be expected to intervene when random women are in trouble? So you took my comment : I've been helped by other people many times and I've helped many people also. And decided that instead of the words I wrote it actually must mean that men in particular have gone out of their way to help me but women haven't and that I have never gone out of my way to help anyone. Why are you pretending I said something other than what I actually said? Btw, I, a woman, have been in situations where there were men who could have intervened and chose not to, but I still go…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 05:30 PM
–	Should men be expected to intervene when random women are in trouble? they sure as shit aren't going to be helping you? Sure they are. I've been helped by other people many times and I've helped many people also. Decent people regularly do that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 05:02 PM
5	Women and Men screwed up dating... once her value is used up The fact that you believe a woman's value gets used up by men she interacts with is concerning to say the least. I recommend getting off the Internet for a while, get out there and talk to a variety of people around the place, yes even the ones who you don't consider to be sexually appealing to your peepee. You will learn so much more about how humans work than you will find on here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 04:54 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? It sounds like you were in a relationship and then you dumped him as soon as he was broke No no, when I met him we both worked for the same company and earned similar amounts. As soon as we moved in together, he quit his job and stayed home everyday playing video games while I worked 10 hour days to pay the rent and bills. Yet he flat out refused to so much as cook me a dinner after my long day at work or do the dishes or the laundry, because he saw all of that as women's work. Like I said I was…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 10:33 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? You just prove my point further, you broke up with him. Haha nice try. You commented "ask literally ANY woman if she would DATE a guy who earns less than her or doesn't work". I did DATE those guys, so your point is proven wrong. People break up for a variety of reasons which may or may not have something to do with how much money the person makes. That's right, the average working class man is your enemy and not the CEO making 1000x your wage I dunno where you got this from, I never mentioned a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 09:39 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? Ask literally ANY woman if they'd date a guy who makes less than them, let alone a guy who doesn't work. You must be out of your mind. I don't need to ask, since I'm a woman and I have dated guys who make less money than me. I even had a boyfriend years ago who stopped working and expected me to pay the bills as well as do all the housework. I was much more patient with him than I should have been. So, there goes your whole argument - women do date men who earn less than them or don't work. I ag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 09:15 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? Wouldn't work because women are hypergamous If course women were hypergamous in the past when their only way of having a good life was by marrying someone who could give them a good life, women are obviously less hypergamous these days, and will be even less so in the future, as long as we keep working towards equality. So, that's not really a valid argument for why it wouldn't or couldn't work. it ruins the sexual economy too much. What even is the "sexual economy"? I've never heard that term b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 08:47 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? Women in the workforce simply just creates more competition for men I would argue that men in the workforce creates more competition for women, so let's push men out of the workforce so women can easily take up the jobs they deserve. I mean, men had a fair shot for thousands of years, it's women's turn right? Do you see how you come across by saying this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 07:56 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? but in practical terms a lot of women have a hard time respecting an "equal" man, In practical terms a lot of men have a hard time respecting an "equal" woman. Many women know this to be true and it's talked about a lot due to the changes in our society over the last number of years. Women are now equal to men in many ways and see that men still have trouble respecting us as equals. Whereas your statement is just something made up by the manosphere, you have no proof of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 06:22 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? The income requirements I listed aren't just typical of IG models and starlets, it's also typical of so many women who are average or even clearly below average. You got any proof of that? Or, actually, first off, how many is "so many"? Sure there are women who only want rich guys but they are not average, ordinary women in general, they're a minority. Just like there are men who only want a virgin woman but they are not average, ordinary guys in general, they're a minority. Most average ordinar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 05:55 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? the occupation of the high-status, high-paying job by a woman means one less high-status, high-paying job is available for a man Jfc was this argument not put to bed years ago? The best jobs do not automatically belong to men, women are not taking jobs that rightfully belong to men. who, if he's not already a top 10 - 20 percenter in terms of looks, absolutely needs a job with high pay and high status to have even a hope of attracting basically ANY woman to date him. Nah, he can take a mediocre …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 05:35 PM
5	I think "women need to pick better" is a valid argument only against women Yes, if that is your only choice then that is the real choice in front of you. But people generally are not faced with only one person in my whole life who is romantically interested in me or suicide. You're being a bit dramatic here. Usually the choice will be a few people interested in me, I could weigh up the pros and cons and decide to be in a less than ideal relationship because it means a lot to me to be in one, or being alone and finding fulfillment in other aspects of my life besides rom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 10:20 PM
4	I think "women need to pick better" is a valid argument only against women You don't understand there is a desire gap.Men already have a higher sex drive than women and much lower options So? Even if that were true, do you think that absolves you for the decisions you make in your life? It doesn't. Women also distribute character certificates of men whom they reject Do you think men don't do this also? Your whole comment is a lot of words to say you wish women could be held accountable for everything that happens in a relationship so you and men like you don't ever hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 09:43 PM
14	I think "women need to pick better" is a valid argument only against women Am I not responsible for picking the wrong investments and losing my money? Sure, and you are also responsible for picking the wrong woman to be with. You guys need to stop with the nonsense idea that women are responsible for picking the wrong men, but the poor men have no choice and are forced to be with whichever woman picks him. Grown up men don't behave like this, they take responsibility for their own lives just like grown up women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 09:19 PM
11	I think "women need to pick better" is a valid argument only against women men are essentially forced to be in relationships Men are really really NOT forced to be in relationships. Stop peddling this shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 09:12 PM
7	Are women financially better off not being with men? Assuming that men are only interested in sex and women are only interested in hypergamy, That's some wild assuming you are doing there. Now, to your main question : Are women financially better off not being with men? Not all women are the same, and not all men are the same, so you can't make a blanket statement like this. But, for me, yes I'm better off financially not being with a man. Every serious boyfriend I had cost me money, either by being too lazy to work so I had to pay the rent and bi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 09:06 PM
5	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. You grow the fuck up and pay for your own damn life. I already do. And I pay my taxes and don't expect to be given a human being to use and abuse because of it. In short, I am grown up, so we're back to it's time for you to grow the fuck up!	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:44 PM
6	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. others equally not entitled to a single cent of the money I've earned with mine. When you live in an organised society, paying taxes is a part of that, whether you like it or not. It has no connection with you believing you should be handed a woman for your sexual wants. If you believe that I am not entitled to a woman's sexual labour You're not entitled to it whether you pay taxes or not. The two things are not linked. Paying taxes doesn't entitle you to use another human being. My choices were…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:30 PM
10	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. Ok you think taxes are legalised theft, I disagree. But, that doesn't explain why you believe your payment of tax should entitle you to women's bodies. You realise women are human beings, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:16 PM
16	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. Jesus dude, you seem quite shocked that your tax dollars don't entitle you to women's bodies. What in the world made you think they would?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:07 PM
16	Men have leverage, but it is not always as obvious... and a dark prediction for the future women rather be side chicks of a rich attractive guy No, we don't, this is all in your head.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 07:54 PM
1	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling It’s men who install the HVAC air conditioning and refrigeration and it’s men who install the electrical wiring that transfers power to your homes. Wait a minute, air conditioning and refrigeration are not necessary for survival, they just make life a little more pleasant. Most of the menial tasks that you are describing aren’t necessary for survival they just make the world less physically disgusting and heartless Menial tasks like raising and teaching the next generation of humans, or nursing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 11:49 PM
2	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage Do you not know what the word "transactional" means? I suggest dictionary.com.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 06:56 PM
6	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage I'm well aware of those numbers, that doesn't prove that women monkey branch all the time. Unless of course you are assuming that most women get divorced in order to "monkey branch" to another man. If you were to survey a bunch of divorced women you would find out that's rarely the case. Assumptions don't prove anything my friend. You really should learn to think critically, but if you are from the US it might have been the education system that let you down. If you were from my country I would …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 05:14 PM
3	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage What you've written here doesn't go against what I said, or back up your previous point. It's literally just a word vomit of manosphere talking points. If in doubt of how to reply to a comment, just repeat the "women initiate 70% of divorces" slogan, or the "women always monkey branch" one, or if you're really not sure just throw in as many of them as you can think of. So, you learned all this stuff online and just took it as gospel, without researching or reading up on the topics? How sad. Can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 04:54 PM
6	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage Gotta be the right height , have the right amount of money, have the right dick size. This is nonsense and you surely know that. Do you really think that most men with normal jobs who are not rich can't get relationships? Of course they can, there are loads of them around. Or men who don't have "the right dick size" (which you would probably say is some outrageous number like 10 inches or something). Get a grip, you're spending too much time online for your own good. Most men gave up. No, they d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 04:20 PM
4	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage In a sense, all women are golddiggers Um, no. No they are not. Clearly we are moving to marriages that are more transactional, This is not clear at all, you haven't in any way proven this to be the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 04:03 PM
2	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling Do you agree that many shallow, short-sighted, selfish women play a role in the single motherhood issue, or do you think that only bad men are to blame? I believe that some men and some women are assholes, decent people, narcissists etc, these things don't go by gender. I don't believe only "bad men" are to blame for anything, or "bad women", human personalities and behaviours are complex and there's often a variety of factors that influence any particular phenomenon. But I certainly get sick of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 03:46 PM
2	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling The heavy lifting, huh? Yes, "the heavy lifting" is a term that doesn't mean work that's physically heavy, but the important work that needs to be done to keep society ticking over. I actually believe both men and women do the heavy lifting in society. But I was responding to someone who claimed that only men do. In the past men's portion of the heavy lifting was paid while most of women's portion wasn't. Is it surprising that women are against that system nowadays? Being a woman myself it's not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:47 PM
3	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling Caring for the children or elderly? If you’re opting out of marriage/child rearing then who’s family are you caring for, exactly? But isn't that the point of this post, many women are opting out of having children for a variety of reasons, one of which is a lack of desire to do all the heavy lifting in their household e.g. Childrearing. Women doing the heavy lifting of society, lmao. That’s a good one. You already admitted men do all the real work And here we have it. Man (who almost certainly h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:25 PM
8	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling Women like to think they’re stronk and independent but they still and likely always will rely on men to do a great deal of the heavy lifting in society. Nah, men have been relying on women for a long long time to do the heavy lifting in society : caring for all the children, caring for all the elderly people, doing all or most of the cleaning and menial tasks the men consider beneath them, this is what keeps society going. Sure, men do most of the construction etc but they are paid for that. Peo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:02 PM
11	Wouldn't it be so much safer for women if they started hitting on men? assuming that for many women the definition of haressement may change according to how attractive the guy is. This is not what you claimed in your OP though. You claimed that women "explicitly" say this is the case. Now you are claiming you assume this to be the case, rather than hearing it from women. You're just making up things women say or do based on what you've read and heard in the "manosphere". You're not the first, this sub is full of guys claiming things on women's behalf to fit their …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 06:15 PM
1	CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average man It always makes me laugh when I see somebody suggesting this, as if it has never been done before. Here in Ireland we had most schools as single-sex schools for a long time, and many still are. You know what the research shows? It shows that girls do better in girls only schools, while boys do better in mixed schools. You're literally suggesting something that will put boys at a disadvantage. You'd think Americans would have learned that segregation is not the way from past experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/23 02:10 AM
1	AF/BB is a bad strategy for women. Is anyone here advocating for women to raise their daughters to be men's maids?There is nothing undignified about the maid profession anyway. Dude, I said bangmaids, if you don't know what that means you must be new here. I was in no way disparaging the maid profession. So why don't they? Many of them do. Why are you so gung-ho that women should settle down with a man at 20? The divorce rates are way higher for that group than for those who marry later. The later a person marries after age 32, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/23 11:48 PM
8	AF/BB is a bad strategy for women. A woman in her 20's can have a good man Sure, if she's lucky or unusually mature for her age. A woman at 32 is more likely to choose a man who is suitable for her. Same applies to men. In modern times there's no reason to rush in to marriage with the first person you meet since there are so many opportunities to get educated, get a good career, travel to experience life etc, and most parents would not want their daughter to give up all that to become a dependent of a man. Sorry redpill guys, tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/23 11:20 PM
8	AF/BB is a bad strategy for women. OP your whole post is full of assumptions, but the biggest one is this: A woman at age 32, will never have as good a partner as she could have at age 20. How would you measure that? If I had married the loser I dated when I was 20 I would have had a miserable life. Lots of 20 year olds in modern times are immature and date the wrong people completely. Many of them learn from that, and meet their long term partner when they are a bit older and more mature. Redpill guys seem to have a strange beli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/23 11:05 PM
8	Women get resentful from splitting half the costs with their partners What because working a 9/5 in a capitalist society is interesting? For some people yes, it's possible to enjoy your job, for others no. But I will tell you something that is interesting for the majority of people : having the money to pay your bills. I would argue it's easier but also more fulfilling to develop a career yourself than to devote your energy to trying to find a rich sponsor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/23 11:04 AM
1	Too many women want a father, not a husband. I just think that if you want someone else to pay all your bills, you should take care of the house. I doubt you will find many people who fundamentally disagree with this, except for selfish, entitled men and women. Why are you focusing on the selfish, entitled women as if they are the majority of women and ignoring the selfish, entitled men as if they barely exist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/23 06:23 PM
4	Too many women want a father, not a husband. It is for some people. Yes it is. Like, for example, I had a partner years ago who, as soon as we moved in together quit his job because he "didn't like it", sat at home playing video games while expecting me to do all the work to earn the money, pay the bills and do all the housework. He believed so thoroughly that he deserved a woman to do all of that for him that he was shocked when I broke up with him over it, couldn't understand what the problem was. It always makes me laugh when redpill gu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/23 05:41 PM
2	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" The comment was tongue in cheek, but I think you knew that Yep, that's why my answer was tongue in cheek too. I knew you weren't really about to book your ticket. Because red pill/manosphere guys are constantly going on about how western women are awful and they will go abroad because women are better there, yet when others say sure if you believe that off you go, they never actually go. I seriously doubt you will ever go, you will do the same as most normal people, you will meet someone you lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 12:20 AM
2	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" I'm saying even if you're absolutely right that doesn't mean passport bros are wrong in their reasons for looking abroad. They are wrong when it comes to their reasons for looking abroad. All they ever say is : western women are masculine, greedy, gold digging, disrespectful etc etc and that's why they are going abroad, to meet a feminine, submissive, traditional woman. They are missing the point that you can't complain about western women not being up to your standards and state that's why you'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 12:12 AM
4	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" So even shitty losers get treated well in foreign countries? No, it may seem like that at first but you will eventually realise you are not getting treated any better than you were at home, I mean you're still the same person right, you haven't improved yourself, you've just moved to another location. I'm booking my ticket rn. Right now? Brilliant! Let us know when it's booked, you will be the first guy on reddit defending "passport bros" who actually follows through and goes. This is so excitin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 11:47 PM
2	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" If you're going to engage in debate you'll need to attack the passport bros' points of criticism against modern western culture, progressive ideology(s), feminism and the like. I don't need to do any such thing. If you don't like feminism and you believe you will have a better life in a non feminist or less feminist country, off you go, I'm certainly not stopping you. I relayed my experience of living in an Asian country and how so many (not all) of the western men acted, you can disagree if you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 11:40 PM
2	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" Explain to me how what I said is rude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 11:31 PM
3	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" Are you assuming foreign women are all homeless dumb children? What? No, absolutely not. Remember, I'm the person who has lived in an Asian country for seven years, you are the 18 year old boy with no experience in life. You would be better served by studying, working and travelling for the next number of years to gain some life experience rather than being online trying to tell people how something you've never even experienced is the solution to all their problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 11:07 PM
3	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" But you didn't need that level of rigor to cast judgement... If you read my comments thoroughly you will see that I didn't "cast judgement", I relayed my experience of specific western men I met in an Asian country I was living in at the time. But you gave that as the explanatory factor in why these men treated women like shit. In your own case suddenly you don't believe the causation... No, the reason I gave was that these guys couldn't get a girlfriend at home. Then they went to an Asian count…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 11:03 PM
1	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" You see where I a coming from I am also way off? You're way off for me, maybe not for other people you've spoken to on this topic, I can't speak for them. You implied that these were ‘desperate’ women based purely on their heritage/race. That is blatant racism and all your handwringing anecdotal nonsense is no apology. I implied no such thing. I clearly stated that these are middle class women raised to believe that marrying a western man and going to the west would mean a better life for themse…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 10:29 PM
1	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" Racist nonsense Nah, you're way off on this. I see where you're coming from because you've seen people on reddit saying that passport bros are taking advantage of poor women from third world countries who have no other choice. But, you'll notice that I didn't say any of that. The guys I was talking about were guys I personally knew, many of whom I worked with. They were not preying on poor women. The women I'm referring to were middle class from good families and had been raised to believe that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 10:20 PM
–	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" Does the same ability for Western women to get a new guy make Western women treat Western men like "shit"? If not, why? You would need to survey many women to find this out. I can only speak for my own experience. I've never treated a man I was with like shit, I've been treated like shit by some of my boyfriends though. The fact that I could get another man if I left the one I was with was never a reason to treat the one I'm with like shit. The fact that you even think this is normal and not sho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 10:13 PM
8	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" Stay in the US and just accept fat, masculine and combative women? First of all, I'm not suggesting that anyone should stay where they were born. As you read in my comment, I lived in an Asian country for seven years. I also lived for a year each in a few European capital cities. And I've travelled to many other countries. I think travel is fantastic, and living in other countries can teach you so much, especially in learning about other cultures and becoming more understanding of the different …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 10:06 PM
9	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" Do you think the "passport bro" system is working for men? Lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 09:29 PM
5	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" Awareness of what exactly? If you are a loser who can't get a girlfriend at home, go to another country and find a woman who is desperate for a better life and will reluctantly have sex with you to get it? How does that improve the man's life? Like, ok, he is getting sex, but now has an immense amount of pressure on him to provide her with a better life or she will leave him. And he will be back to square one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 09:27 PM
2	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" It's exactly how it is. Some of these guys go abroad specifically to find a wife because they couldn't get one at home. Others went there because they were fuckups in life in general including romantically but also career wise, socially/friendship wise and it was just something to do to start over. Many of these guys were very intelligent academically but severely lacked emotional intelligence and social skills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 09:20 PM
7	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" No I never heard of him, but I'm older and a little bit old school, I only bother with the technology that is interesting or fun for me, and I don't follow influencer. I don't use tiktok and I don't use youtube except for looking up the odd video of something I've interest in. there is this guy on youtube he calls himself MLD. He is exactly all of these things - got charged with assault in Tokyo after he glassed a girl in the nightclub because she refused to sleep with him Doesn't surprise me. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 09:11 PM
33	"You have to work 5x as hard as your grandfather for women 20x worse" I'm kinda sick and tired of seeing posts about "passport bros" as if they are the smart and brave men who strike out for a better life. I spent a number of years living in an Asian country. And let me tell you, these guys are the losers who couldn't get a girlfriend at home, most of them couldn't hold down a job for long at home either. Usually anger issues, lack of social skills, failure to launch syndrome or just being a weirdo/creep. Many of these guys were intelligent, but completely lacking…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 08:50 PM
11	85% of Chinese are not marrying and 60% are not procreating Sure, then you are dependent on a woman too, and so am I. We are all dependent on a variety of people in our society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 03:32 PM
15	85% of Chinese are not marrying and 60% are not procreating I don't see how paying is the deciding factor on being dependent Of course it is. Otherwise, you would believe you are dependent on a woman because the person who served you breakfast in the cafe is a woman, or the person who cleaned the hotel room you stayed in was a woman. In that sense, we are all dependent on a lot of other people as few if any of us can do everything on our own. I'm still not dependent on a man because the rubbish collection company I've hired sent men out in the truck to c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 03:31 PM
21	85% of Chinese are not marrying and 60% are not procreating Huh? This is a dumb thing to say. My rubbish isn't collected by some kind man who does it out of the goodness of his heart. I pay a company to collect it and I have no say over who they hire to work for them. That's not me depending on a man, that's me paying my household bills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 02:59 PM
1	Why do so many men not seem to care whether women actually enjoy sex? A lot of women are married to men who they are not as sexually attracted to as they were\are to the men they used to fuck before they got married You have zero proof that this statement is true. Just because redpill guys say this doesn't make it true. If you want to stand over this statement, show the proof.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 09:22 PM
1	The West is an investment, passport bro is the reward after a long time investing I have no clue who any of those people are. You will have to spell it out, how are their lives connected to your post about passport bros.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 12:15 AM
2	The West is an investment, passport bro is the reward after a long time investing Going passport bros, thats the reward. Go there and STAY THERE, build a life there. Thats your reward after grinding for so long. So your reward for "grinding" so hard is to leave and start from scratch in a new place? Lol. They will appreciate all the work you put in to bring your wealth to them Doubtful. Have some pride bro. This is embarrassing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 11:48 PM
5	Do you know any red pillers in real life? Are they sexually successful? Most of us have a quiet confidence that comes from internal mastery. "internal mastery" sure bro 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/23 03:35 PM
–	Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate it They do care a lot more about money than men Certainly not more than manosphere men who are constantly crying about having to pay money to support their children and split marital assets, money seems to be by far the most important thing to these men, almost the only thing they care about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 03:15 PM
–	Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate it I guess a lot of poorer women are an entry point or for practice, just for fun and sex What an awful way to see women who happen to be poorer than you. OP, you might not have said anything overtly misogynistic in this post, yet your hatred and disdain for women is palpable, it's dripping from your every word. You might want to consider how you are coming across here, it's not a good look on you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 03:06 PM
–	Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate it Both your example 1 and example 2 here amount to the same. Both people contributing equally can mean each contributing half of the same things to make the whole, or splitting the things in half and each contributing their half. Example 1 makes more sense though since if one person gets sick for example, the other can more easily pick up the slack. Also, I have to say that your OP is a pretty disgusting rant, "women have intelligence but there are holes in it" what the actual fuck is this? Both m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 03:01 PM
6	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him Sure, does it surprise you that women don't want to be told what we "should" do? Were you expecting women to agree with your OP?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 11:45 PM
6	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him Sorry but I have a visceral reaction to guys saying what women "should" do. I disagree completely. It's up to each individual to make of their life what they want from it, and yes that can be harder for some people than others, I appreciate that. But it's never acceptable to expect another person to make experiences happen for you because they experi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 10:18 PM
3	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him Can you please stop referring to sex as a "gift" a woman gives to a man. That's not what it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 09:45 PM
2	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him I simultaneously see sex as a mutual gift and believe that neither should be giving something they seriously do not want to give. That's great, but what OP is talking about is the following, direct from his post : If a woman does this, she will also reduce a man's insecurities and thus his need to criticize her for her richer sexual past. According to OP, a man will need to criticise his woman if she doesn't reduce his insecurities. And specifically will need to criticise her for her "richer sex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 09:43 PM
3	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him I mean, sure that might be his own experience with his lovers. But, the OP is still suggesting that a woman who is sexually experienced and gets with a sexually inexperienced man should do things she doesn't want to do so that he can experience the things he has missed out on, which is obviously nonsense. Then he talks about women "giving" these experiences to the man, as if sex is something the woman "gives" to the man. Surely you agree with me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 09:16 PM
14	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him But, your OP assumed that the woman in this scenario has experimented in the past, knows what she likes and doesn't want to do the things she didn't like going forward, right? And your OP strongly suggests that she should do things she already knows she doesn't like for the sake of her man getting to experience them. Don't you see the issue with this? It's up to the man here to make his own life happen for him, to find ways to achieve what he wants in life, not to wait for a woman to come along …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 08:11 PM
8	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him You're rewording your OP here, this is not at all what you said before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 07:43 PM
10	If a sexually experienced woman begins a relationship with a sexually inexperienced man, she should be willing to experiment with him and teach him I already have experience myself (thanks to the women who generously gave it to me). I think this is the crux of why you are getting so much push back here. You are seeing sex as something a woman "gives" to a man for his benefit. You likely think she is gaining something else for "giving" him sex. But, that's not what sex is. It's something that two people do together for their mutual benefit, or at least it should usually be. Why should a woman who has taken the time and experience to discover…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 07:38 PM
3	There’s a good reason men get praised for sleeping around and women don’t Lets say I'm selling melons for 10$ and that is the known price of my melons for quite a while, then i hear about some dude selling the same melons for $5. Well I'll be pretty pissed won't i? You're making that age old mistake of equating sex to something women 'give' to men for a price, instead of something two people do together. Sex is not the same as "goods" in the market as you put it. It's downright gross to hear men on this sub talk like that, no wonder so many of you struggle to get girl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 11:34 PM
2	Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average? You can't be serious with this question? Even if you read the OP and couldn't spot the assumptions and falsehoods, there are plenty of other commenters who have clearly laid them out, just read them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 08:58 PM
10	Single independent women are not really as independent as it seems Damn right. I've never had a boyfriend do any of that even while we were dating, let alone after we broke up. Although, I've had more than one boyfriend who expected me to do that shit for him. I also don't know any woman who has her ex paying for stuff for her. OP must know some strange people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 07:50 PM
74	Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average? Sorry but there's too many assumptions and falsehoods presented as facts in this post to make it worth arguing. OP I would suggest you do some research on the topic and come back with a better post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 01:58 PM
3	"Touching grass" is unuseful family members have genes that make them likely to share political positions. I stopped reading at this sentence, no idea what the rest of your post says. I've no idea if you need to touch grass or not, but you do need to go back to school if you believe our genes influence our political opinions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 11:19 PM
-1	There's no point for a man to get married in a western society Nice try but you're not fooling anyone. This is a change my view post, not a simple answer my question that I'm just curious about post. Do you want your view changed? If so,, (this is meant in a kind, civil way), you need to grow up a little and stop seeing sex as something a woman gives to a man as a reward when has behaved himself and done all the right things and jumped through all the hoops. That's not what sex is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 06:51 PM
1	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? Sounds like you are friends with some awful people. What has that got to do with this conversation though?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/23 01:21 PM
1	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? Promiscuous and monogamous are not opposites of each other, your comment suggests you think they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/23 08:10 AM
-1	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? It doesn't matter what studies actually show. Do you really think that? If so, why did you bother linking that shit from the institute for family values or whatever they call themselves? If men believe it's the case because it's what they read on the internet, then that's going to color their perceptions. My point is that "men" don't believe this nonsense. You're talking about a small percentage of men who get their education about the world from "the manosphere", they hardly matter in society i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 11:17 PM
0	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? Men often don't see it this way. They see it as "if a woman had sex so easily with a man in the past, then she might have it easily with another man while she is my partner". These men you're referring to see it in a weird way. This report shows that the chance of infidelity increases with promiscuity, as well. Sorry but a right wing "think tank" is not a reliable source for anything. Got any impartial studies conducted in a scientific manner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 09:28 PM
3	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? More of this "women are allowed to have standards, men are not" which is often repeated in this sub, but when pressed nobody can explain what they mean. Who is allowing women to have standards but not allowing men? How do they enforce it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 08:09 PM
1	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? No we’re not outliers Sure you are. I'm probably much older than you and have yet to meet a man who cares about how many guys his partner has slept with previously. I'm not just talking about guys I've personally been with, but just people in general talking about their relationships too. You're quite mistaken by thinking you are the norm and not an outlier. Most men find promiscuous women repulsive. Source? Just your personal opinion I'm guessing. You don't get to speak for most men. This is wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 08:03 PM
0	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? I'm not sure if most men care about that, since their issues are likely more about false paternity fears I've said it before, but I will say it again. "False paternity" is only an issue if your partner is having sex with other people now while with you. It doesn't apply to situations where she slept with many others in the past but is monogamous with you now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 07:04 PM
4	Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women? So what? Outliers don't count, redpill men are always saying this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 07:00 PM
6	Women Admitting That Their Promiscuous Pasts Prevent Them From Enjoying Sex With Their Husbands This comment is a joke, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 06:45 PM
10	is it wrong to want a feminine woman ? You come on! You've never seen a woman with big muscles? Have you been living under a rock? And are you saying that men without big muscles are inherently feminine? Because that's the next logical step here. However, that would make the vast majority of men feminine. What are you even talking about here when it comes down to it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 05:04 PM
16	is it wrong to want a feminine woman ? Having muscles is inherently masculine. Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but I think you'll find that "having muscles" is inherently human. Or in fact, inherently mammalian. We could even go further, birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians, even insects all have muscles as far as I'm aware. You need to go back to school bro!	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 04:49 PM
–	What is the big deal about submission? Oooh, showing your true misogynistic colours now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 11:53 PM
–	What is the big deal about submission? You saying that men asking for a submissive woman, whereas no women are shamed for asking for a dominant man, is what made me feel like you are shaming me. I didn't say anything at all about women asking for a dominant man and whether they are shamed for that or not. Women are allowed to have preferences and none are shamed for it But when men have the slightest expectations we get argued with and told “no you’re not allowed” Who is "allowing" or "not allowing" this? Last I checked all people ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 10:13 PM
–	What is the big deal about submission? I'll ask again : What did I say that made you feel I was shaming you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 09:43 PM
–	What is the big deal about submission? No, it’s saying “I’d rather be alone than come back to someone that puts me down constantly”. Most men who say they want a submissive woman are not saying they would rather be alone than with a non-submissive woman, they are saying this is the way it SHOULD be, men are natural leaders etc, to use your example they don't want someone who puts them down all the time, or, they don't want someone who is bitchy, bossy etc. There's a huge gulf between being submissive and putting someone down all the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 08:21 PM
7	What is the big deal about submission? we don’t want to come back home to another “challenge”. This is akin to saying "I just want to be right all the time, and I don't want to come home to a woman who won't pander to me by telling me I'm right all the time". It's kinda pathetic when you think about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 08:01 PM
6	Why do conventionally attractive woman almost always date high status men? I feel woman take thing much more personally when these types of claims are made. Men generally brush it off or laugh. I don't think your feelings really prove anything here. Many men on this sub generally "feel" that men are better than women, yet they are never able to explain exactly how or prove it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 07:16 PM
3	The principles of the manosphere are based on a just-world fallacy In other words women still get custody in 79,9% of the cases. You're missing the part where 90% of couples agree on custody without going to court. We're not talking here about the fact that more women have custody of the children (because in most cases the man is more than happy to let her have primary custody), but that in cases that go to court because they can't agree, men get custody at least as much as women do. I don't think you understood my original comment at all. In any case, that was…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 10:53 PM
4	The principles of the manosphere are based on a just-world fallacy Even the example you give about custody is not being supported by any websearch I did Maybe you didn't search hard enough, because you don't want to believe it. https://blog.gitnux.com/father-custody-statistics/ "Fathers receive custody in about 50% of contested cases when they seek primary residence in the United States."	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 08:16 PM
4	The principles of the manosphere are based on a just-world fallacy If that was true the manosphere would not have gotten so popular, because the claims the manosphere make can easily be tested against reality and science. And therefore those claims would have been proven to be BS long ago They have been proven to be bs long ago. Just because manosphere guys refuse to believe the proof doesn't mean the proof is not there. Do you want an example? The manosphere guys are constantly repeating the following : women always get custody of children in court after a div…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 04:55 PM
6	A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stability Sure. It's normal for young people to want to have fun and not be ready for or even interested in settling down until they have gotten an education, travelled or enjoyed life in some way, started a career, matured to some extent and have some idea what they want out of life. I still don't know why these guys think it's fine for men to do all that, but for some reason women are bad or devalued for doing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 05:59 PM
5	Dating for long term relationships past university age is pointless They may care about your attitude though. Just saying. You might want to look at changing your attitude if you want to find a long term relationship in the next four years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 02:35 PM
8	A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stability What exactly do they view as hurtful though? Is it that the man didn't manage to have much of a social life when young, so he finds it hurtful that women did? So jealousy really? And we are only speaking about a percentage of men here. I would say that most men who had fun when young then met someone for a serious relationship wouldn't feel hurt that she had fun when younger too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 11:20 AM
9	A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stability it's about how men see it. But I would bet that all the men who also enjoyed themselves in their younger years, sometimes with women who weren't "marriage material" even, wouldn't see it this way. It's honestly tedious to read another post about men being unhappy that women can enjoy themselves when young, travel, find themselves whatever and then settle down to have a family with someone if they want that. Instead of focusing all their energy on finding a man to marry at as young an age as poss…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 11:11 AM
2	Men in western society should reject marriage Both. In the past women often married for financial security, and men for the security of clean clothes for work, a clean organised home and meals on the table. Marrying for security is much less prevalent these days. Were you trying to make a point with this question?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/23 04:01 PM
9	Men in western society should reject marriage Women are more.likely.to marry for calculative reasons than men Nothing you have written here leads to this conclusion. It's like you just plucked it out of thin air. Can you walk us through what got you to believe this statement?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/23 07:23 AM
8	At this point in time women already have complete psychological control over men. I think you will find that women generally want to do more than just survive. So, no, we don't sit around not using our brains until they atrophy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 06:28 PM
8	Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the world So you went from this: When’s the campaign for gender equality in workplace deaths? Or 50% female steel workers? I never hear about any gender equality initiatives to get 50% male nurses or kindergarten teachers. To this : I don’t care about percentages in industries either way. You're not really worth conversing with tbh, you don't seem to even know what your own opinions are. But btw, When do we get gender equality with alimony payments? I wouldn't have a clue mate, alimony seems to be an Amer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/23 12:21 AM
17	Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the world Because women don’t give a shit about male teachers But do men give a shit about male teachers? Because you suggested above you want gender equality for teachers, but now you don't really want that because you think women don't want it? It doesn’t matter if 10% of teachers are men or 50%, women are still going to fuck doctors or lawyers like they are now. Men know this. When did it become about fucking? Do you want equality in teaching because you think it's the right thing or do you not want it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 11:45 PM
–	Question for Women : Would you accept that your Man has Sex with other women (you would be his only Girlfriend/Wife) if he would be MR Perfect? NOPE! Cut him off is obviously the answer. Also, you said he would be perfect for me in every way, totally my type, but then you had him calling other women "dumb hoes", this would not be a perfect guy for me. I'd always rather be alone that with someone who doesn't respect me, and a guy who expects a "one way open relationship" clearly doesn't respect women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 10:13 PM
21	Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the world Here in my country the main teacher training college recently announced their new initiative to get more men into teaching as it's too female-dominated. Unfortunately "manosphere" guys will always ignore these examples and continue to complain that there are NO initiatives for gender equality in female-dominated industries. Also, you could take a leaf out of feminists book and get an initiative started, y'know, if it means that much to you. I would hazard a guess though that it doesn't even matt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 09:47 PM
0	Is it true for most guys that there are more dating options in their 30s as pointed out on here? It still comes down to the same thing though. "Lads, don't worry that no women are interested in you in your 20's, when you are in your 30's loads of them will be desperate and will be swarming all over you and you can take your pick, sweet revenge on the ones who turned you down". No, no chance. This doesn't happen. I really think you should stop spreading this nonsense, as young guys who are struggling to even make friends or function in society may believe you. Why would you mess with their l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 08:47 PM
1	Is it true for most guys that there are more dating options in their 30s as pointed out on here? Good for you, but I don't see the connection between the comment above and my reply to it and your comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 06:49 PM
-2	Is it true for most guys that there are more dating options in their 30s as pointed out on here? Men in their 30s/40s that suddenly have more options because they did the work and because they are now deemed "good enough" by declining women who used to reject them when they were younger will no longer be interested, Jesus, not this tired old myth again. No. Just no, guys who are being rejected by women in their 20's will not get to reject those same women in their 30's who suddenly come crawling back looking for a chance. This doesn't happen. The women who didn't want you then carried on wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 06:33 PM
–	Would a woman working in a male dominated industry be a deal breaker? What are you repulsed by? Your belief that money is the only metric you can judge someone's contribution to their family by. In your mind the person who provides money is "the provider" but the person who provides anything else is somehow not a provider and isn't "giving anything back". You can't really believe this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 08:08 PM
1	Women look at the men they are dating glass half empty, while men look at them glass half full Wow, so you are asserting that young, attractive women are greedy, delusional and have bad attitudes, instead of all women? Ok, so according to you all men, older women and unattractive women are the selfless, sane people with wonderful attitudes? Lol!	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 07:08 PM
–	Would a woman working in a male dominated industry be a deal breaker? Men should make their own money. Agreed, and women too. I think everyone should be able to support themselves. It's a basic necessity in this day and age. They are expected to be providers The "their own money" in your previous sentence negates this. Are women expecting men to be able to support themselves rather than leeching off her, or are women expecting men to be providers for them? I know many of the guys in this sub who would say that women overwhelmingly expect men to be providers but I'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 06:13 PM
2	Women look at the men they are dating glass half empty, while men look at them glass half full I read what you said and pointed out all the faulty assumptions your opinion is based on. Do you agree or disagree? A duscussion needs more than your above response	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 01:19 PM
–	What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it? It's weird to me that purely based on your own opinion, you have decided what women "should" do with their lives. Glad women have minds of our own and don't have to go along with nonsense like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 11:23 AM
–	Would a woman working in a male dominated industry be a deal breaker? She got her own money, but it doesn't really matter because she's not making it for him. She's not going to support him. She's going to want him to make his own money like she's doing. Yeah, why shouldn't he be expected to make his own money like she is doing? Nobody wants a leech right? Women aren't providers. They want providers You're contradicting yourself. If a woman can provide for herself, she wants a man who can also provide for himself, so they are equal (although some of these women ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 11:08 AM
–	What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it? Why should they? How is that better for women? Or do you just mean that would be better for men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 10:25 AM
3	Women look at the men they are dating glass half empty, while men look at them glass half full Women look for the negative in any positive thing about the dude they are dating, Do they? Based on what? Sounds like something you just decided is the case. while guys are constantly trying to find a positive out of the negatives and straight up ignore the negatives Are they? Based on what? Sounds like something you just decided is the case. They can end it with a guy and have 10 new ones ready to go out the same day. As a woman this has never been the case for me. And I think most people, incl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 08:57 AM
3	Observation: girls are constantly baiting guys into destroying their own futures at every point in life Lmao, you're too far gone mate. Good luck with your superiority and large brain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/23 11:23 AM
4	Observation: girls are constantly baiting guys into destroying their own futures at every point in life You don't seem to know what a source is. Lists of questions and instructions such as "look around you" are not sources. You are making the mistake of thinking we live and have always lived in a meritocracy. So when you see more male politicians and CEO's you assume they all got there because they were the best person for the job. You are not questioning your own biases, rather you are leaning into your biases because it makes you feel good to believe you are inherently superior as a man. Deep do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/23 08:14 AM
10	Observation: girls are constantly baiting guys into destroying their own futures at every point in life Im not gonna stop saying the truth. The truth or your opinion? Men are simply better leaders than women Source? We are more capable Source? smarter have a higher level of self-awareness Source? are better decision-makers than women Source? Our brains are literally 10% larger. So? You clearly haven't studied much biology if you think a larger brain makes you a better leader. Do you literally have any source for anything you said here, or is it just something you made up in that big brain of yours…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 10:22 PM
8	Observation: girls are constantly baiting guys into destroying their own futures at every point in life As men we are supposed to be the leaders and lead women Um, no. Stop telling young guys shit like this. Men are not "supposed to lead women", all you're doing is disrespecting women and teaching impressionable young guys some bullshit that will lead them astray.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 09:24 PM
67	Observation: girls are constantly baiting guys into destroying their own futures at every point in life Haha, the very first thought that came to me reading this post was : wait, these guys are always going on about women not having accountability, but here this guy is suggesting that men have no accountability at all, the poor men are being lured into ruining their lives by women. It's too funny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 09:07 PM
0	In the end, all men want is to feel needed. How do we help men cultivate a new purpose? I more mean ahead as in ahead of where they are currently, not ahead of women per se. Ok, but I would say that you are already singling men out as separate from women in your OP which would suggest that men "getting ahead" would be ahead of women per se. When you put that together with the fact that men were ahead for a long time and society has worked hard to put women on the same legal standing with men, even if socially that doesn't always apply, when you talk about men "getting ahead again" …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 08:58 PM
2	In the end, all men want is to feel needed. How do we help men cultivate a new purpose? why should a woman want or feel the need to be seen as beautiful by the man she's interested in, I don't know if she "should", but in so far as she does, it's probably equivalent to a man wanting to be seen as handsome or good looking by a woman he's interested in. The OP was about the specific need or want of men to feel useful, which was very much assuming that women don't need to feel useful but only men do. Basically, I think you're making a false analogy here, do you see what I mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 08:51 PM
2	In the end, all men want is to feel needed. How do we help men cultivate a new purpose? help men get ahead again I dunno if you really meant it or not, but are you aware how this sounds? It's like you want men to be "on top" or "in charge" again, like they were in the past, as if you think men have been robbed of their rightful place?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 08:41 PM
5	In the end, all men want is to feel needed. How do we help men cultivate a new purpose? it's an important one for men, to feel like they're needed, to be seen as exceptionally capable I don't see why men should or do feel the need to be seen as "exceptionally capable", if they are not exceptionally capable. I don't believe that pandering to a man's ego is a healthy way for women and men to interact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 08:35 PM
3	Men struggle because they treat women as equals Why do women always want someone taller than her in relation to herself. For example a 5'11 woman still wants a taller man Always? Really? So my 5'11" sister who chose her 5'9" partner and has been happy with him for the last 10 years doesn't exist? (You said always, so don't go playing the "exceptions to the rule" card please).	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 12:03 AM
2	Men struggle because they treat women as equals Can you give an example of how most women "act as if they want better men"? And some stats or data to show that's the case? Because I don't really understand what you mean by that, going by all the women I have known in my life, I don't see any evidence of that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/23 10:44 PM
6	Men struggle because they treat women as equals men should act better than women. Instead of treating her as equal Are you saying that men should act "better" than women because you believe men are "better" than women? It really sounds like that's what you believe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/23 10:35 PM
0	Q4M: How do you treat pregnant women? Dude, please please get the help you clearly need, before you waste your life and wake up in your sixties or something to realise you wasted what could have been the best years of your life being angry and bitter. Seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 08:08 PM
3	TRP is common sense explained to autistic men - CMV So, you understood that feminism is not dating advice for men, but you somehow failed to grasp that feminism is also not about "praising men"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 09:16 PM
1	what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other? Ladies, if you have no personality, no backbone, no boundaries, you could land an amazing (not in the good way) guy like neverusetren, lucky you /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 07:54 PM
6	what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other? This is a very, very naive statement. If you think only nice, kind, mentally stable women are in long term relationships you're either very young or very inexperienced in life (i.e. terminally online). This is not how things work at all. Humans are much more complex, nuanced and emotionally led than you believe. Let me guess, you also think that the only men who ever have sex are 6'3" "chad's".	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 07:27 PM
2	My theory on east vs west gender relations I don't know where women got this idea that they can just shrug off responsibility for themselves, as if death, accidents, abuse, layoffs, and abandonment don't exist. Agreed, but I think those woman are rare nowadays, at least where I live. Worse are the men (there are many in this sub) who try to convince women they will be so much happier as a housewife and mother, being financed by a man. It makes me laugh actually, like do they think we are stupid enough to believe that after seeing our mot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/23 06:59 PM
1	When men say they don't want a career woman, it's not that they don't want a woman who has a career, they just don't want a "boss babe". Women crave these traits in men. Yeah, no thanks dude, from me and many many other women. Whether you realise it or not you are an advertisement for why there are so many guys online crying about "women's standards are too high, women are hypergamous, why can't I find a hot woman who will do whatever I tell her to do". These guys are never going to have a partnership with a woman while they keep this attitude. Not sure why you are perpetuating this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 09:02 PM
2	When men say they don't want a career woman, it's not that they don't want a woman who has a career, they just don't want a "boss babe". its not about her having a career. It’s about the personality traits necessary to excel that she then brings home. Being assertive. Disagreeable. Combative. Etc. Do men exhibit these same traits in order to excel at their careers? If so, why are they allowed to have them and women not? This is just men trying to shame women into being dependent on them so they can feel like the "big man" in the house. Pretty pathetic in this day and age. No wonder redpill guys are constantly online complaining t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 08:44 PM
1	When men say they don't want a career woman, it's not that they don't want a woman who has a career, they just don't want a "boss babe". Why oh why do so many redpill men keep claiming that having a career is a masculine thing? Most women these days have a career, just like men do. Time to get with how the world has changed or get left behind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 08:14 PM
17	As a woman, you can afford to be lazy and uninteresting and you'll still find someone to provide and take care of you. Don't go moving the goalposts now honey. Your post wasn't talking about the one woman who was uninteresting, your post was generalising all women in this way. Your anger is really showing in your responses to people who disagree with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 01:33 PM
11	As a woman, you can afford to be lazy and uninteresting and you'll still find someone to provide and take care of you. You could make it up and I wouldn't know. Like you made up this post and thought we wouldn't know. Lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 01:17 PM
24	As a woman, you can afford to be lazy and uninteresting and you'll still find someone to provide and take care of you. Do you feel better now that you've got this little made up (clearly hate-filled) story off your chest. If you don't have money, your boyfriend or the guy you're temporarily dating will give you some because men give money to their girlfriends Hmm, I'm a woman and no boyfriend of mine has ever given me money. Where did you get the idea that this is happening regularly? As a woman, you're basically exempt from doing alot of things that men have to do (such as being a provider, being drafted, being…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 12:17 PM
4	Why are traditional relationship dynamics viewed with such hate? So, for example, in a relationship where they both work, if the woman enjoys cooking and cleaning etc and the man enjoys working extra hours to bring in more money for the family and carrying heavy bags and such, there's nothing wrong with them dividing their household responsibilities in this way. But what you say about a woman who loves her career and feels good bringing in money for the family and a man who enjoys cooking and cleaning, is it ok in your eyes for them to divide responsibilities…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 09:21 PM
–	we should criticize deadbeat dads (to an extent) not single moms That's nonsense. Men are not all passive beings that just let things happen to them. Of course men have as much of a choice as women in how their life goes (and historically men had even more choice than women).	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/23 08:59 PM
–	we should criticize deadbeat dads (to an extent) not single moms As long as you think the same when you hear men whining that his wife took half "his" stuff in a divorce. Those men obviously "chose" to marry the wrong woman, according to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/23 07:52 PM
2	CMV: Men don't want older career women because they're insecure and intimidated So do you think that career men are "jaded, narcissistic and look down on women who haven't had more success than them"? Looking forward to your reply that "it's different for men". Lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/23 06:59 PM
4	Discussion : Why shouldn’t there be “losers” in the dating market? Why is it wrong a lot of men will lose out? many people put in effort to the best of their ability, the problem arises is when that ability is no longer good enough for a significant number of people. This applies to housing, student loans, medical bills, employment. Reddit agrees with this. If you add in relationships then it no longer applies. Why is that? I think it's because a relationship involves another person. So the guys crying it's unfair that women's standards are too high, women are hypergamous, only go for men over 6 foot etc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 06:16 PM
–	Women define being single as not in an official relationship, men define being single as not sexually active. This leads to an inherent lack of understanding. The definition you attributed to women is the correct one, as in the commonly accepted meaning in the modern western world. You can argue all you like, but you know that's what society in general considers the meaning of the word. People who are not having sex are called "celibate". You can be in a relationship and be celibate, although it's rare enough these days. You can also be single but still having sex, which is quite common.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 05:21 PM
–	Women define being single as not in an official relationship, men define being single as not sexually active. This leads to an inherent lack of understanding. Then men are wrong in this instance as that's not what the word means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 05:09 PM
–	Women define being single as not in an official relationship, men define being single as not sexually active. This leads to an inherent lack of understanding. Women tend to define being single as not having someone they would call their boyfriend or significant other. This means women still consider themselves single when they are in the talking phase with one guy, casually dating, a situationship, etc. Until a woman can become official with a guy, she will call herself single. Women are correct, this is the (commonly accepted) definition of "single". Men tend to define being single as being not sexually active. When you ask a guy if he's single, if h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 05:04 PM
2	Any unusual flags/traits you look out for in women? Why don't you respond to what I said? Hits a bit too close to home does it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 07:25 PM
2	Any unusual flags/traits you look out for in women? Wait, according to you, the reason I'm single is because you need a woman to guard you from your own bullshit? I don't follow. My being single is entirely my choice. Tell me more about how worried you are that you are fucking up your own life that you are taking it out on people who call you out on it lol. Do you feel better about yourself because I am single? Lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 07:10 PM
10	Any unusual flags/traits you look out for in women? Some women I’ve been with appreciate that I guard them from their own bullshit. Wow, you're deluded. You need a woman who will guard you from your own bullshit. I hope you will appreciate her, but I doubt it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 06:55 PM
0	What exactly is a traumatized woman? of course if you are hot most of this does not matter to the same degree. I don't see at all how hot someone is negates the trauma they have from previous relationships, what makes you say that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 06:29 PM
18	What exactly is a traumatized woman? Woman formerly in toxic relationship may be about to cast her unresolved angst at new partner A man formerly in a toxic relationship would be likely to do the same. So, are you asserting that people who have previously been in a toxic relationship shouldn't get the chance to date again, or that sensible people should only consider a relationship with those who have never experienced a toxic relationship? I just think that most who have never been in a toxic relationship have probably not experie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 05:21 PM
–	What’s your opinion of revoking consent after the fact? What’s your opinion of revoking consent after the fact? There's no such thing. If consent was given at the time of the act, it cannot be revoked afterwards. If consent was not given at the time, then it's rape, and the victim can of course report it afterwards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/23 01:06 AM
8	Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't Women can complain about short guys (height cannot be controlled) but when a man points out the fat woman (weight can be controlled) complaining about short men then he should "feel like a piece of shit". I don't know what you mean. I have seen loads of men on reddit (including in this sub) complain about fat women. In what sense do you mean that they are "not allowed"? They do it regularly. Women can ruthlessly demean short (or poor) men with impunity, but when a guy says he doesn't like fat wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/23 11:15 PM
8	Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't What do you understand by the word "crucified"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/23 10:58 PM
4	Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't It's really hard to tell which part of my comment you are adressing with this nonsense. Can you spell it out?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/23 10:42 PM
10	Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't How so? Who is allowing or not allowing people to complain, about anything? If a man complains about only getting unnattractive obese women, he is immediately crucified. Please, show one example of a man getting "crucified" for complaining that he can only get "unattractive obese women".	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/23 09:41 PM
–	I firmly believe the main reason dating is so bad these days is because of women. Relationship is suppose to be easy Is it? Who says? In a heterosexual relationship 9/10 times it is the women who do the ghosting, initial the divorce, lose feelings quicker, go off to someone "better", usually heed to their girlfriend's advice rather than communicate it out with their partner. You just made all this up. Or do you have some kind of data showing that 9 ghostings out of 10 are done by women? 9 out of 10 divorces are initiated by women? 9 times out of 10 that someone loses feelings…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/23 07:36 PM
5	How many relationships are initiated by women in modern dating? Men rarely initiate relationships if they get sex and company. I don't believe this is true. How did you come up with this opinion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/23 05:47 PM
–	CMV: Men today have a massive victim mentality, and it is holding them back from finding success. I'm sure that you make a lot of ridiculous claims and when anyone asks for proof you drop out of the conversation. You are making sure nobody here will take you seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 09:17 PM
–	CMV: Men today have a massive victim mentality, and it is holding them back from finding success. Ah it's you again. Any source for "women have no empathy for men at ALL. It's all about them"? Or do you just go around this sub making unsubstantiated claims hoping no one will notice?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 08:50 PM
2	Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt is Great. You made a claim you can't back up, so you choose to walk away with your tail between your legs. I know everything I need to know about you now. Bye	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 06:51 PM
3	Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt is So you have one source? No, since I didn't make any claim, I don't need a source. You made a claim which I questioned and asked for a source. Is there any chance you are going to provide one? Or will I just assume you made it up?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 06:20 PM
3	Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt is Based off what stats though? Dude, that's what I'm asking you. You made a claim that women hold three quarters of the debt, which is surprising to me. I asked you what is the source of that claim but you haven't delivered. I googled it and the above info is what came up. Are you going to explain where you got the number from or will I just go ahead and believe what I read on Google?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 05:44 PM
3	Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt is It is true it’s a fact women hold more debt. I don't think I believe you. Here's another one from Google : Who has more debt in US men or women? Indeed, men carry more overall debt than women, including across most debt categories. But women carry more student loan debt and often have more credit cards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 05:24 PM
3	Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt is Women hold 3/4 of the debt in the states Is this true? I googled it and the stuff that came up says the opposite. Below is one example, but there are others Experian compared debt balances among men and women and found that, on average: Men have 2% more credit card debt than women Men have 20% more personal loan debt than women Men have 16.3% more auto loan debt than women Men have 9.7% more mortgage debt than women Women have 2.7% more student loan debt than men What's your source for the claim…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 05:17 PM
4	Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt is women marry men who are richer or earn more Do they? All the married couples I know were earning similar amounts when they met. Now, 10 to 15 years later the man earns more since the woman switched to part time or took several years off work to raise the kids. This decision was a mutual one in the sense that they both thought it's better to have one parent stay home with the kids but the man would feel emasculated by doing that so the woman agreed to it. women expect men to pay Do they? Granted …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 04:16 PM
–	What if boys were taught the truth about hypergamy and female nature from an early age? We teach young children about the slave trade and racism (I learnt about it at 13 or 14) why not female nature? Because those are real things that exist. "female nature" is just nonsense cooked up by guys who spend too much time online. Just because you decided to believe the nonsense doesn't mean it should be "taught" to young kids. Get a grip.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/23 11:07 PM
4	A large amount of the issues with the modern dating sphere stem not from high female standards, but low reciprocity and the selfishness that has imprinted itself on female dating culture. I do however agree that in the modern day at the very least, relationships are a net negative for men. I'm very sure that wasn't the case in the past due to traditional cultural standards which encouraged early commitment and made it that women were taught domestic skills and very heavily encouraged to work to please the men they were with I'm shocked that you could write this and not see the problem. You're so close.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 04:48 PM
5	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? the male-dominated team was surprisingly chill , while the female-dominated one was full of drama and negativity. This hasn't been my experience at all. I guess it just depends on the people involved. I've worked in a team of all or almost all women with no drama, and currently work in a team of almost all men - there's so much gossiping and tattling, in the past couple of weeks there have been two guys having major meltdowns bawling crying etc. Honestly, I don't find generalisations about gende…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 12:55 PM
8	Is there even any society set expectations left on women anymore? ??	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 11:20 PM
2	Is there even any society set expectations left on women anymore? Just look up food stamps in the US and see who gets the majority of it, single fathers or single mothers. Ok, this is going to be my last response to you as you are obviously not discussing things in good faith. You stated that as a woman I would "pre-qualify for EBT" before you as a man would. Stating now that "Just look up food stamps in the US and see who gets the majority of it, single fathers or single mothers" doesn't back up your point?! Did you believe it would back up your point? No, wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 08:26 PM
3	Is there even any society set expectations left on women anymore? First, men are a fraction of the workers on Onlyfans Ugh, so you did mean onlyfans. How sad. Also, that doesn't change the fact that men can and do work on onlyfans. Secondly, EBT, you pre-qualify for EBT before I do just by nature of you being female. I've got no idea what EBT is. I'm guessing some type of social welfare payment? If so, no, I don't "pre-qualify" for it "just by nature of being female". That's not how it works at all where I live. Does it work that way where you live? If so, can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 08:05 PM
2	Is there even any society set expectations left on women anymore? You're right, no law But you said this in relation to women as if it's different for men, but obviously it's the same for everyone. but we have a hell of a lot less of a cushion than women How so? Please don't say onlyfans, men can and do work on onlyfans too, and also it's still work. We just end up homeless and dead if we won't work. So do women. Except for the people (men and women) who have families or friends who love them, they are less likely to end up homeless and dead if they lose their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 07:47 PM
3	Is there even any society set expectations left on women anymore? You're right that there is no law dictating you work, but this applies to men too. So anyone saying there is an expectation for men to have a good job is wrong, because there's no law saying that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 07:39 PM
10	Is there even any society set expectations left on women anymore? This is obviously nonsense, but go on, I'll humour you. Show us some evidence, any evidence at all that women "bear zero responsibility for anything".	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 07:31 PM
1	“its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argument I am referring to one dimension of socks being similar to one dimension of women and making an analogy Which "dimension" of socks is similar to which "dimension" of women? Because the only one you have mentioned is that they can both be used up and become worthless. See the problem? Maybe brush up on venn diagrams if you don't understand the simple logic here. Which logic is that exactly? Why don't you spell it out, since I'm unable to understand (must be my lady brain preventing me)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/23 09:37 PM
0	“its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argument not wanting heavily used goods Just to be clear: you're referring to women as "goods" in this scenario? Goods to be used then thrown away, like socks and shoes?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/23 08:46 PM
0	CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on dates Go ask Bill Clinton. You are basing your beliefs on sex on what Bill Clinton claimed to get out of what he did? Weird. I don't think there has EVER been a man in history who has ever gone "Man, this woman is so sexy! In fact, she's so sexy that I want to wait a while before I have sex with her!". Maybe not, but there has certainly been guys who have gone "I really really like this woman and could see a future with her, so I won't try to rush her into sex in case she thinks that's all I care abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 08:50 PM
-3	CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on dates For starters, she had sex with me on the third date, not the second You said above you guys had oral sex on the second date. Is oral sex not sex to you for some reason? Only PIV counts as sex in your mind? Why? "I'm not as into this guy so I'll fuck him right away, but this guy I really like, I'll wait.". That's complete nonsense. Lots of people think that way, including many men. Don't pretend that's not a thing for many people (not for me btw, I have always had sex very quickly with people I f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 08:29 PM
-4	CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on dates Being directly shown that you are less attractive to your partner than her previous hookups But he's not being shown that. The fact that she had sex with some guy on holiday, where people often hop into bed with each other since there isn't time to get to know each other, doesn't mean that she is less attracted to the guy she's with now, who by the way she had sex with on the second date, she's obviously into him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 08:08 PM
-2	CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on dates How am I supposed to not be upset about that? Because you're a grown up who doesn't get upset about every little thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 07:50 PM
6	Treat her like an employee . . . not a slave And I don't know many women who aren't, which is all the proof I need to address your own anecdote I didn't ask you to address my anecdote though, I asked you for proof of the statement you made: women are generally happier when they can trust a man to competently be the head of the household than when they have to be so themselves I'll take this response as you admitting you have no sources, it's just something that you want to believe is true. So there's no point in arguing this, as the whole …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 05:40 PM
10	Treat her like an employee . . . not a slave women are generally happier when they can trust a man to competently be the head of the household than when they have to be so themselves Well as a woman I am not happier in that scenario and I don't know many other women who are, so you will need to prove that. What research led you to this idea? Can you provide the sources? And why does the household even need a head? In relationships nowadays where generally both people are working outside the home etc what's the point in assigning one person…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:37 PM
2	Treat her like an employee . . . not a slave You're the Captain. She's the First Mate See, this is just sexist. What's wrong with a woman being the captain and a man being the first mate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 03:21 PM
1	Treat her like an employee . . . not a slave Nah, it really doesn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 03:09 PM
13	Treat her like an employee . . . not a slave -Should guide the big picture idea for long term goals of the relationship. How is a man automatically more qualified than a woman for this? Should be in charge of the household financials How is a man automatically more qualified than a woman for this? Etc. You still haven't answered my earlier question, why do you think men 'should' automatically be given the more powerful role in a relationship, rather than it being an equal partnership, or even a case where the more powerful role goes to the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 03:08 PM
12	Treat her like an employee . . . not a slave Again, you're deciding what's "best" for others relationships, based on your own preferences for relationships. Why? Another person could just as easily proclaim that women should be the leaders in relationships and they would be no more wrong or right than you are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 02:00 PM
5	Fringe opinions promoted by engagement are skewing your conceptions of the other gender You're on the right track but the examples you gave are extremes, not stances representative of what most people actually think/say. But, both examples given by OP can be seen frequently in this sub coming from redpill guys. They are not redpill extremes, they are fully believed and regurgitated by redpillers	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 01:52 PM
13	Treat her like an employee . . . not a slave Can a relationship with different dynamics work out? Sure, maybe, but I'm not particularly interested in taking part in that experiment. Fair enough, you can live your life as you wish, but... a man should still be in the leadership role Why are you here telling other people what they SHOULD do? You have decided that all men should be in leadership roles, in their personal relationships no less, based on nothing concrete, just your feelings that gender roles are natural. What makes you think you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 01:39 PM
–	If expecting a woman to cook/clean because she’s a woman is misogyny, then wouldn’t expecting chivalry from a man because he’s the man be misandry? Women want tit for tat because they're childlike in their search for fairness. Generalisations like this are so stupid they mean nothing. If you're a feminist that disagrees you have abandoned womanhood Yes, I understand that you meant "have defected", not "are defected". So you are claiming that women are "childlike in their search for fairness" and any feminist who disagrees has abandoned womanhood. Lol! I've seen enough childlike behaviour of both men and women in my life to know you are talk…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 10:49 PM
–	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves Those men, one busted, will rarely pull the mental gymnastics that women do to try to make it the injured parties fault. That's a strategy that's damn near exclusive to women. What information are you basing this on? I have seen both men and women do this throughout my life, I'm 46. Yes, this is anecdotal, sure, but do you have any non-anecdotal evidence of what you say? Of course you don't, so I will continue to believe what I've seen time and time again with my own eyes, rather than your "wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 10:13 PM
3	If expecting a woman to cook/clean because she’s a woman is misogyny, then wouldn’t expecting chivalry from a man because he’s the man be misandry? women are children Not true, and normal people don't believe that and would consider you a raging misogynist and stay far away from you. Good luck in life if that's what you're going for. If you're a feminist that disagrees you are defected What do you think the word 'defected' means? You didn't use it correctly here anyway fyi	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 08:31 PM
1	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves trying to surpress mens preferences and voices altogether with the powert of mass media using women as tools to opress men to govern the population Oh you're a conspiracy theorist, I didn't realise. Goodbye.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 08:15 PM
3	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves you’re doing exactly the same thing using anecdotal evidence As did you. I don't think anyone in this post, including OP, provided any type of evidence besides anecdotal. I guess the nature of the claim makes it not really verifiable, people have opinions here based on their own experiences, or based on their biases. Will you take accountability for this hypocrisy? What hypocrisy is that? Please explain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 08:08 PM
7	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves Men will admit the ugly truth and take their medicine, not frantically run from accountability like women. Hahaha! You don't actually believe this do you? Any woman who has been in a few relationships with men could definitely tell you otherwise. You are just basing your beliefs on your bias. Kinda pathetic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 07:17 PM
5	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves this thread is proving it How so? Be specific please, as I don't see this proof here	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 07:12 PM
2	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves Yep, exact same thing men do in that situation. Turns out it's a human thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 06:50 PM
1	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves It's as rampant as it is with men in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 06:16 PM
11	Men Who Want A Family Are Biologically Forced To Date Women Under Roughly 35-43 You're referring to that ok cupid survey aren't you? (not study, survey! Of users of that site, not people in general). Where they found that women saw 80% of men as 'below average' but still swiped on them anyway? More than 20% of men are in relationships and/or having sex right now, how does that equate to 80% of men being "deselected"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:29 PM
13	Men Who Want A Family Are Biologically Forced To Date Women Under Roughly 35-43 When I see an old man with his young pregnant wife, I know that man must be very capable in many ways in order to achieve that. Very capable? Really? And yet the example in your OP was: An Indian man in his 90s recently had a healthy child with his wife who’s in her 20's. Do you believe that the 20 something Indian lady chose/selected that man in his 90's? Or is there a big chance that the patriarchal culture allowed that man to negotiate with her father to marry her, against her will? What did …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:06 PM
7	Men Who Want A Family Are Biologically Forced To Date Women Under Roughly 35-43 Females are very selective and deselect more than 80% of men in their ideal age range. Can we stop with this bs please? What you wrote here is not true and you have zero proof that it is. Why can't we just stick to the facts, this isn't one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 08:46 PM
–	Women saying it's hard for them to find a man to 'commit' is pure hypocrisy Just make marriage permanent again and men will be interested again. Women won't be interested again though if you do that, been there done that, it wasn't great, y'know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 04:26 PM
4	Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging. Your misogyny is an awful look for you 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 10:30 PM
4	Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging. What's the strawman I'm arguing according to you? You haven't answered to anything I wrote, so you are clearly in bad faith, what a waste of time this conversation has been.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 10:24 PM
7	Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging. It's only a great mystery if you're unaware of what men value vs what women value. I'm aware of what people value thanks. It's funny that you believe women hit a wall but men just keep on powering through lol. Everybody gets older and doesn't look as good as they used to, including men. Have you considered that you're playing dumb? Not in this scenario, no, because I'm not playing dumb.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 10:12 PM
7	Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging. So in your head women hit a mysterious "wall" as they get older and become less attractive, but men somehow get more attractive as they get older? Have you considered that this sounds really dumb?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 08:15 PM
1	Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging. His money got him willing pussy is all I'm saying, it disproves the point of this OP that you'll only get laid in your thirties if you got laid in your twenties. This doesn't disprove what OP said because you made it up. You said above: Harvey Weinstein was pulling girls with his money. I bet for every one he forced, 50 did it willingly You are just guessing that women willingly slept with him for his money, but you don't know that, not even close. Maybe he forced every woman he slept with or co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 05:59 PM
0	If you marry in the US, you should only marry someone who earns the same or more than you, and divorce immediately if they start earning less. So if you went and asked 100 married people why they got married, how many of them are you expecting to say it was a purely financial decision, that they are playing a long game and hoping to get some alimony out of it when that opportunity arises? That is not why people get married. Not everyone bases their life decisions on money only, I think you can't assume they do just because you do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 05:20 PM
1	If you marry in the US, you should only marry someone who earns the same or more than you, and divorce immediately if they start earning less. You do realise most people don't get married for financial reasons, and that most people don't divorce for financial reasons either. Right? You make it sound like all you think about is money and you make your life decisions purely based on their financial aspects, so you're assuming everyone else does too. They don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 03:47 PM
1	Are Woman in America are different? Is was more about women seeing men as wallets and not people. But in fairness to you. I didn't articulate that very well. Huh? I don't think you articulated that at all. And as a regular normal woman I don't appreciate anyone making assumptions that women generally see men as wallets, it's most certainly not the case where I live, so you're going to have to provide evidence of that to convince me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 10:04 PM
1	Are Woman in America are different? Is it not possible two things can be a struggle, while at the same time one being worse than the other? Of course it is. But somebody asking you for something and you being free to say no is not a struggle. Get real here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:44 PM
2	Are Woman in America are different? How is someone asking you to buy them something and you refusing any kind of "struggle" for you? You're way off base here, the other person is talking about people getting roofied (and possibly raped by the one who drugged them) and you're talking about that someone asking you for a drink which you can just not do? What's wrong with you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:15 PM
3	Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries? If you think your partner asking you not to do something because it makes them uncomfortable is an ultimatum then I wonder what you would say is a boundary. A boundary is something you set for yourself. Expecting another person to do something to suit you is not a boundary. Obviously in a healthy relationship people talk and discuss and agree to do things to improve the others comfort level to some extent. But expecting someone to change something fundamentally individual about themselves to sui…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 09:41 PM
–	The best way to develop and validate your beliefs is to imagine yourself explaining your position to your own child I'm a firm believer that children learn by example. So, a man holding redpill/misogynistic beliefs can tell his daughter that she is special and should get an education, not rush into marriage too young, not put up with a guy who uses her or abuses her or treats her badly etc, but the damage will be done by then as she will have seen the example of him and her mother for years growing up and will have internalised their ideas that women are hypergamous, a woman who has a "bodycount" is worthless…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 09:34 PM
2	How different would historical gender dynamics and modern dating be if the size/strength difference between males and females were reversed, but everything else had remained the same? Men had leverage by being strong because for most of history jobs were labor intensive You don't think pregnancy, birth, nursing and raising young children is labour intensive? Or was very labour intensive in a world without contraception? Way to show your contempt of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 09:00 PM
3	Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries? This sounds like you would be ok with your partner telling you she doesn't want you to hang out with your buddies any more now that you're in a relationship with her? I mean, it sounds like you think a relationship means two people setting ultimatums for each other and threatening to break up if the other person doesn't conform to the new rules. You're describing a toxic relationship here. Many of us would prefer a healthy relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 08:32 PM
2	Do very attractive men have a hard time respecting women because they know first hand how easy it is to get most woman to cheat with him? I mean, how much respect a man has for women is not connected to how hot or attractive he is. My guess is that most of these posts are ugly guys LARPing some kind of revenge fantasy of being so hot that women can't help but cheat with them. Spot on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/23 06:58 PM
9	Why should women want traditionalism? What's in it for them? Women have all power on sexuality Not sure what this means. so if they marry a man that has power over them or is controlling is because, guess what, it is what they have chosen. WOW! Most women kind of want at least he illusion the man is in charge, I guess it is something fundamental in them in a sense. This is why they marry and fuck even criminals, but would never fuck the nice guy nerd next door. Double WOW! Your argument is ridiculous, I just can't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 09:40 PM
11	Why should women want traditionalism? What's in it for them? sounds better than fucking around with 10 different dudes a week and then ending up with 10 cats in your 40s. But, have you ever been a woman in her 40's with cats? No? Then you don't know how she feels or what would be best for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 08:35 PM
2	Why should women want traditionalism? What's in it for them? The joy of modern society (thanks in a large part to feminism) is that women can do whatever they want, just like men. There's no "shall" involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 08:32 PM
16	Why should women want traditionalism? What's in it for them? Funny somehow having a stable family is a fantasy What's your idea of a "stable" family though? One where the man is automatically in charge because he's the one born with a penis? Do you think a penis makes a human more intelligent, capable or decisive? Women don't want those kind of relationships, many men have accepted that and adjusted, time for redpill guys to catch up. somehow women having 50 sex partners before you can somehow work and it is totally OK. That worked for men for many years,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 08:29 PM
2	Why don't women understand that men have to work and have money? Who says? OP? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 03:28 PM
1	Why don't women understand that men have to work and have money? Don't forget there are loads of men like that too, I don't know why OP is suggesting it's only women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 02:23 PM
2	Why not look for a woman with a career? Men inherently want to provide for a woman, for the family Inherently? Really? I've met men in real life who don't want to do this. Can't really be inherent to men if they aren't all like that. But women have the inherent nurturing, emotional and empathetic features which are somewhat lacking in men. Again, you are claiming things of all men which are not true. Have you never met a man who is nurturing and empathetic? I know I have. Frankly your opinions on men, and on women, are disappointing. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/23 12:26 AM
0	Why not look for a woman with a career? Oh my god, you literally don't understand what boundaries are. A boundary is something you set for yourself. Like, if someone insults you, you just walk away and refuse to engage with them, that's a boundary. Making rules for another person, telling them what they can or can't do is controlling. Please learn this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/23 12:07 AM
2	Why not look for a woman with a career? It wasn't me who shamed working men Me neither. You clearly didn't understand my comment, which was a summary of the comment I was replying to. You complain about men who work, and you complain about men who don't work. I didn't complain about either of those things. I was discussing why men are so adamant that they don't care about a woman's career or how much she earns. It doesn't make sense to me that a man who wants to get married and have a family wouldn't look for a woman who can share the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 11:52 PM
1	Why not look for a woman with a career? that's just who most women are attracted to - men that're their financial and social superiors. Men are aware of this, and so they respond accordingly. So men don't make their own decisions? They just respond based on how women act? Interesting! But as a woman I personally have never been attracted to a man I see as being my financial or social superior, I prefer men who are somewhat equal to me, so please don't lump all women in together, we are humans so not all the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 11:46 PM
2	Why not look for a woman with a career? There are a lot of single mothers out there, and some mothers who have a husband who sits on his ass and doesn't work, who are trying to feed a whole family despite the dire economic situation. Do you not think they are heroes? Or is your admiration only for men who do this? Personally I admire all people who work hard. So I don't see how you can claim you are "more feminine" than me, based on your comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 11:39 PM
2	Why not look for a woman with a career? Wow. Here in my country men do not pay for all of those things you listed. I've actually never known a woman who was living with a guy and wasn't paying half the rent, it's unheard of. Also both people pay for the wedding and the down-payment on a house. Sounds like the US is the problem. I've said it before and I'll say it again. America is not feminist enough, there's a large cohort of people who have resisted feminism tooth and nail so many things have not changed in the way they have in othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 06:48 PM
3	Why not look for a woman with a career? Yeah I mean when you compare the US to Western Europe or Canada, it's really lagging behind in egalitarian values. So in the US men are expected to pay for everything throughout life, like if a couple gets married it's only the man who pays for a house for them? Women never pay towards a house with their partner? Even in the 21st century? Shocking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 06:35 PM
9	Why not look for a woman with a career? What I don’t want is some masculine, loud mouth, boss bitch ho who thinks that because she pays rent and has a car that it makes her some kind of special person. It's easy to tell someone is young and/or inexperienced in life when they say things like this. As if women in general in 2023 think they are a "boss bitch" for owning a car and having a place to live. I also find it really funny that so many redpill guys think that having a career is somehow a masculine endeavour so that all women with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 06:33 PM
5	Why not look for a woman with a career? Yeah it's almost as if many men are intimidated by women on their level and seek partners they can feel superior to eh?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 06:20 PM
6	Why not look for a woman with a career? Women don’t wanna share financial responsibility, so what does it matter to me what she does or what her career is? I have to pay for everything anyways. Where the hell do you live where you will have to pay for everything throughout life, and women don't share financial responsibility? That is absolutely not the case where I live. If you are in a western country I don't believe you for a second.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 06:14 PM
18	Why not look for a woman with a career? So are men generally happy to be financially responsible for another adult, even in tough times like currently when it's hard to raise a family on one salary? Why would men, the more logical sex (according to guys on reddit lol) put themselves in such a precarious position? Why not use logic and date women who can already support themselves financially?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 06:06 PM
1	New research helps explain why relationship satisfaction tends to be lower in role-reversed heterosexual couples You said that me being a man, I wouldn't want trad roles reversed. No, you said you don't want them reversed. That's because as a man you are refusing to see how they are inherently bad for women, but not for men. That's because you were implying that men have it better I wasn't implying that men HAVE it better nowadays, but that they HAD the upper hand under "traditional" gender roles. Hence the push to dismantle them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 03:05 PM
2	New research helps explain why relationship satisfaction tends to be lower in role-reversed heterosexual couples None of what you wrote here is a response to anything I said? But yes please tell me in which ways would it be better to be a man?? No, I won't do that because that was never my point and you know it. You didn't respond to my point, you just brought up a load of new points that we weren't even discussing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 09:17 AM
4	New research helps explain why relationship satisfaction tends to be lower in role-reversed heterosexual couples Traditional gender roles suck for many men. They have to put in all the effort, endanger themselves, and spend far more time working than the woman in the relationship. If that's the case then why are there so many men trying to defend them, like the guy I responded to above who said there's nothing inherently bad about them and he doesn't understand the push to dismantle them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 09:13 AM
3	New research helps explain why relationship satisfaction tends to be lower in role-reversed heterosexual couples Thank you for this. Nothing he wrote there is in response to my comment, it's ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 09:10 AM
0	New research helps explain why relationship satisfaction tends to be lower in role-reversed heterosexual couples It seems like you didn't understand my comment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 01:03 AM
7	New research helps explain why relationship satisfaction tends to be lower in role-reversed heterosexual couples I honestly don't understand the insanely passionate push to reverse or dismantle traditional roles Obviously YOU don't, being a man. Think about it from a woman's point of view for a moment, can you see why now? They are not inherently bad They are not inherently bad FOR MEN, who get to keep their agency, autonomy, and have power over others. For a woman though, well it's a whole other kettle of fish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 12:47 AM
12	Another AF/BB example. Do women really think that the “BF” material is winning? Nah, redditor learns that redpillers want to have their cake and eat it too, and are big mad angry with the world that they can't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 08:36 AM
1	Are men seen as expendable? I attempted a reply but deleted it, because in the end all of your words translate to "women bad". And you didn't acknowledge or discuss anything I wrote above. I just can't carry on a conversation under those conditions. Good luck, sorry you hate yourself and other women, you might want to look into therapy for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/23 06:27 PM
-8	Are men seen as expendable? The difference is that women are entitled and other men are not. I think the difference is you are just choosing to see the bad in women. What about entitled men, there are loads of them in the world too, you just pretend they don't exist?.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/23 05:48 PM
9	Are men seen as expendable? until the day women are able to be drafted in the US, I will never support abortion rights whatsoever. What does one have to do with the other?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/23 05:42 PM
-8	Are men seen as expendable? It's shocking to me that you can think women in general should be grateful to men for going out and doing their job that they are paid for? The paycheck is the reward you get for doing your job, same for women too. You think women are entitled for not being grateful to random men? I never heard the like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/23 05:39 PM
-1	Does the past ever matter? Um, no. Guys in this sub regularly say that a high "bodycount" (for a woman only, not for a man) predicts the likelihood of cheating, being unable to "pair-bond" (lol), divorce, entitlement, you name it. They are suggesting that a high "bodycount" (again for women only, not men) leads to likely bad behaviour from the woman in the relationship. It's not just disgusting, it's dumb as fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/23 10:49 PM
0	Does the past ever matter? They want a woman who is truly going to stick by for decades and takes commitment seriously. Also, one who is going to instill good values into the children they might have together. Yes, sure, and how many previous sexual partners she had is not going to indicate any of this. What will indicate it is a woman who has grown and matured over time. And who has developed good standards of morality that she will instill in the children. It will also help both of them and their children if he has also…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/23 10:33 PM
-1	Does the past ever matter? All men care about n-count You should have told us you were appointed as spokesperson for ALL men in the world, we would have celebrated! Bluepillers lefties are just too conditioned to give voice to their distaste of womens n-counts. So the conditioned (probably fully brainwashed) redpiller claims that everyone else has been conditioned to think wrong things. That's laughable. Just maybe, those guys don't care about "women's n-counts".	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/23 08:50 PM
-1	Does the past ever matter? A lot of people like to say not to judge by past actions, but isn't the best predictor of future behavior past behavior? You're talking about the whole "bodycount" thing right? Look, nobody says not to take past actions into account. Many people would never date someone with a criminal past for example, or a history of cheating. Of course past behaviour is the best indicator of future behaviour in many cases. But, the problem with the bodycount thing is that redpill guys are taking something tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/23 04:18 PM
7	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? I don't follow. Being an elite athlete is not a "normal thing". He said women receive accolades for doing normal things like driving a car, which is nonsense. Then he brought up wnba. I mean, do either of you have an example of what you are talking about here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 07:51 AM
13	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? Ah, by accolades you mean generic praise, in the same way men get praised for doing normal things like parenting their children for example?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 01:18 AM
1	CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please women Great, so a woman is uppity if she doesn't expect a man to buy her shiny things and would prefer an equal partner. But she will be called a gold digger if she does expect it. See how women are always in the wrong in the eyes of misogynists, no matter what they do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 01:16 AM
6	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? Ok then, please give me an example of a woman receiving accolades for doing normal things? The guy who brought that up wasn't able to provide an example so why don't you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 01:13 AM
12	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? You still haven't shown women getting accolades for anything. You've suggested women think they should get accolades, but haven't shown they actually do. That was literally something you made up. Anyway, neither you nor the other guy has answered the question I asked, so this conversation has been a big fat waste of time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 01:11 AM
10	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? Huh? I've never seen a woman receive accolades for doing normal things, can you give an example of what you mean? And, that still doesn't explain how just "being a woman" gets you ahead in life, while men have to use their intelligence and humour to get ahead? You guys are not making any sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 12:53 AM
6	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? Why not respond to my question about getting ahead in life?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 12:25 AM
4	CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please women Cool, and many women don't want jewelry from men who think that will buy our "submissiveness". No wonder so many women are choosing to stay single instead of being with men like you describe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/23 12:10 AM
17	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? Men need humor, wit, and intelligence to ever be successful in dating and to get ahead in life, women don’t really need much beyond being a woman If you leave dating out of it for a minute, in what way do women not need humour, wit and intelligence to get ahead in life and just need to exist as a woman? Assuming by get ahead in life you mean things like get a job, get promoted, buy a house, build a network of friends and acquaintances etc? Just "being a woman" doesn't get you any of those things…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 11:56 PM
5	Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner? Why not? Do you think women are less interesting or less fun than men? Do you not think they vary, just like men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 11:14 PM
1	current trends in Purple pill subreddit Looks at studies showing the unhappiest people are women in their 40's Well, the majority of women in their 40's are married to men, so that really doesn't surprise me. There are also studies that show single women are happier than single men, and happier than married women. What does that tell you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 08:01 PM
4	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? Surveys of childless women tell us that a top reason is not career, lifestyle or financially related: it’s that they just haven’t found the right partner. Aren't they right to not have kids if they haven't found the right partner? I mean if they go ahead and have kids with the wrong partner then the relationship fails, you guys will cry that single mothers are awful and it's the women's own fault for picking the wrong guy. Women can never win when it comes to misogyny. Let's get rid of misogyny …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 07:11 PM
2	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? a chance that things might even be a bit better since things like blatant misogyny, inceldom, etc would all be more isolated seeing that these are primarily born of frustration I refute the fact that misogyny is born of frustration. Misogynists are socialised to be that from a young age, often from birth. Incels take their misogyny to a further level since they are frustrated that they are not automatically better than all women and entitled to the perfect woman of their choice as they were led …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 06:52 PM
21	CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please women Wait, men only want women who use them for jewelry and stuff? Ok.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 01:31 PM
8	CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please women You seem a little obsessed with women 'dying alone', you brought it up in another comment too. Is this a revenge fantasy you have of all the women who won't sleep with you? The truth is, dying with a man by your side is not really worth it if you have to put up with shit from him for years before you die, it's much better to have a good life then die alone. If a woman is enjoying her life and doesn't want a marriage, why would you argue against that? What's in it for you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 11:22 AM
81	CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please women Sex to a man is like jewlery to a woman you'll go along with ridiculous **** to get it As a woman I wouldn't go along with ridiculous anything to "get jewelry". I can buy my own jewelry if I want it after all. This just shows that you know nothing about women as people, you are assigning values to women that you think they have due to your own misogyny, rather than those they actually have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 09:46 AM
1	What do you think of the stereotype that woman are deeply complex creatures with a myriad of wants and needs whereas men are simple creatures that are very easily satisfied? Your response was all the counter I needed. I could not have crafted it to better illustrate my initial, secondary, and tertiary points Except that nothing I said has proven your points at all. If it had you would be explaining why, but you can't. I've seen this tactic many times on reddit: A: "you are just proving my point" B: "how so? explain" A: "i don't need to explain, it's obvious" In this situation, it's not at all obvious, so your choice to insist I'm "proving" your point without being a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 10:59 PM
2	current trends in Purple pill subreddit It’s insanely ignorant to think the manosphere created traditional women What? I never suggested the manosphere created anything. Obviously they created nothing at all. I said that in modern, western society, the manosphere are the only ones carrying on this nonsense of "traditional" relationships (which somehow equates to the man being in charge and the woman being submissive). The rest of us have moved on. Time for you to move on too, or get left behind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 10:26 PM
1	What do you think of the stereotype that woman are deeply complex creatures with a myriad of wants and needs whereas men are simple creatures that are very easily satisfied? Unable to give any counter to what I said? As expected. Embarrassed for you tbh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 10:21 PM
-1	current trends in Purple pill subreddit Jesus, really? Where? I mean, nobody under 60 in my country lives like this. Are you in a country that still upholds "traditional" beliefs and relationships to a large extent?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 10:20 PM
5	What do you think of the stereotype that woman are deeply complex creatures with a myriad of wants and needs whereas men are simple creatures that are very easily satisfied? Omg my eyes are rolling back in my head right now. You're somehow linking some women terminating pregnacies with women being less self-explored and self-critiqued than men? How so? If men were the ones who got pregnant do you not think some of them would choose to end the pregnancy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 09:59 PM
0	What do you think of the stereotype that woman are deeply complex creatures with a myriad of wants and needs whereas men are simple creatures that are very easily satisfied? So no examples? Why am I not surprised?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 09:19 PM
3	What do you think of the stereotype that woman are deeply complex creatures with a myriad of wants and needs whereas men are simple creatures that are very easily satisfied? I don't believe that either men or women are more complex or more simple, we are all humans and there's a lot of variation between people, but... Women are not actually more complex, they are just significantly less objectively self-explored and self-critiqued so there is a much greater gulf of cultural understanding between what they say about themselves and how they actually behave Can you give an example of how women are less self-explored than men? Or less self-critiqued than men? Because th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 08:52 PM
-1	current trends in Purple pill subreddit But "traditional" and "conservative" views on women are bullshit, which is why we as a society have moved away from them. Only "manosphere" people are carrying on with these moronic beliefs. Kinda sad really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 08:39 PM
0	current trends in Purple pill subreddit That's weird because I almost never hear men truly shame virgins (joking around doesn't count). Haha! "That doesn't happen. Well, it does happen, but I've decided it doesn't count so I can win this argument" - you. Lol!	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 08:25 PM
4	current trends in Purple pill subreddit One thing I read was that women need to feel. Make them feel sad, happy, angry, hurt, whatever... just make them feel. Every human being needs to feel. Sorry but this is a ridiculous comment. If you can get them hooked on feelings, they get addicted to that shit. It's like a drug. They hate that they love it. This sounds abusive. A man being abused by a woman would go through the same shit, and also "hate that he loves it".	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/23 08:17 PM
3	Andrew Tate was right, he shouldn't let his women drive his car. Andrew Tate taught us more without saying anything i drive a manual so women couldnt drive my car even if they wanted, at least not american ones Most American men couldn't either, meanwhile in the rest of the world.... everyone can drive manual transmission, so you sound ignorant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/23 06:44 PM
7	Andrew Tate was right, he shouldn't let his women drive his car. Andrew Tate taught us more without saying anything Clearly he is successful in life and gets lots of women despite not being the greatest looking. There’s something to take away from him Um, sex trafficking does not equal "gets lots of women"?! Wondering right now if you are a psychopath based on what you said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/23 06:22 PM
3	What is the appeal of younger men (mid 20's) for older women (30's 40's)? Well I think not all women want the same things in their dates, just like not all men do. This is hardly shocking information? But yeah, people who are self sufficient and don't need another person to "provide" for them can date whoever they want yeah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/23 10:10 PM
6	What is the appeal of younger men (mid 20's) for older women (30's 40's)? Because (according to the stereotype) hypergamy should be pushing women to desire older, richer, and way more successful men Maybe here is where you realise that the redpill is bullshit? Maybe women were only "hypergamous" in the past because they had to be, and modern women who earn their own money and pay for themselves can date whoever they want. 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/23 08:43 PM
2	Men don’t care about women’s career? Men are still the breadwinners in 70% of relationships No. Men are the MAIN breadwinner in 60%+ of relationships, not the ONLY breadwinner. Most men nowadays couldn't afford to be the only breadwinner in the household. And honestly the man should likely be the main breadwinner in families with children since the woman will need to have time off for childbirth, nursing etc and her career will suffer because of it. She has little choice in that when a couple decides to have children. the idea that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/23 09:17 PM
13	Men don’t care about women’s career? Bullshit. There are loads of women out there contributing equally to their relationship or household. There are even women out there contributing more than the man is to the relationship or household. If you compare how many women nowadays are doing that compared to 30 years ago, then 60 years ago you will see the upward trend. I mean my god, most of the women of my mother's generation here in my country were housewives, now every single woman I know works, not one of them is a housewife. Basica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/23 08:34 PM
-1	Men don’t care about women’s career? most women expect men to pay for nearly everything. Blatant lie, based on nothing of course, as usual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/23 08:28 PM
6	How to get over how easy it is for women to have sex? most men can barely get laid (or relationships) in the first place, if at all. Yep, that's why the human race died out years ago. Did you even think before posting this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/23 09:00 PM
1	What would a man social life need to look like for him to find dating success through it alone ? It is often brought up that men who struggle do so because they lack a vibrant enough social life which I would assume is somewhat true but the average man doesn’t have a lot of friends throwing parties every weekend neither. Most men have a few friends, they go to work and enjoy some activities which may or may not involve members of the opposite sex. This sounds like you're describing the people I know in my age group (mid 40's). Was that your intention? Because when I was in college and throu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/23 08:52 PM
2	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? I don't care what you "feel" about me either, but you're the one here defending your feelings, not me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 08:49 PM
2	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? Being ill-adjusted to a mentally ill society isn't a bad thing. Wow, everyone else is crazy, you're the sane one, lol! You enjoy your "modern women." Um, I'm a heterosexual woman, so yeah, I enjoy being a modern woman, thanks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 08:43 PM
3	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? You're in the bottom 1% of likeability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 08:34 PM
2	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? It's not backwards except in this clown world western society. So you understand that your "beliefs" ARE backwards in the modern world we live in. Why are you insisting on them? Why not get with an intelligent, educated, kind, decent woman who will treat you like an equal? Are you scared because you know you're not her equal?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 08:29 PM
3	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? I'm just pointing out how a lot of people here choose insults instead of debate, as if shaming me is going to change my mind. Sorry, did you want your mind changed? I doubt anyone is shaming you to try to change your mind, I think they are probably shaming you because your views are comical in 2023. If you don't want to be insulted or shamed, maybe don't spout ridiculous, embarrassing, cringey "beliefs" to a bunch of modern people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 07:47 PM
2	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? You can try to insult me, but you don't know my soft spots and you're not important enough for me to care about your opinion. I won't insult you or try to, but you complained above that someone insulted you, I was just pointing out that some people deserve to be. You're obviously salty about it, but I suggest a bit of introspection. You're highly unlikely to find a woman in the modern world who wants to be with you based on your demands, and if you think you have, she's highly unlikely to stay l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 07:04 PM
3	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? It's not many people who deserve to be insulted, but unfortunately for you, you are one of the few. Do with that as you will (maybe consider why that is).	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 06:43 PM
1	Given that there is a list of things that men are expected to do in relationships that women aren’t, what is a list of things women are expected to do that men aren’t? 🤮	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 06:41 PM
-6	Women here advise guys to "touch grass" and "talk to actual women" yet stigmatize and threat profile men for approaching them No dude, nobody moved the goalposts there, you just misunderstood what "go touch grass" means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 06:18 PM
2	Mating Strategies her focusing on her career while young then find their partner in their mid to late 20’s. It always makes me laugh when people on subs like this act like mid to late 20's isn't young haha, wait til you get to 30 years old and see what you think then, you will realise you are still young!	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 08:59 PM
11	Relationship status in the 18-24 demographic isn’t as important as that among 30-34. By that point, studies still show most men and women have found LTRs. many girls that rejected me when they were under 24 are hitting me up as they hit 30 Nah they aren't. This is just a manosphere revenge fantasy and your version is not any more believable than the others	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 04:03 PM
0	Dating apps are not ideal for women either, except for women that want only looks in men A girl on a dating app can probably determine more about a guy from pictures and prompts than they could if a guy just approached them and said one sentence Thankfully that's not how it works, person A doesn't get approached by person B who says one sentence and then person A has to decide based on how person B looks and the one sentence whether they will date them or not. People can and do have more conversation and interaction than one sentence before deciding if they want to date. most of the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 09:31 PM
1	Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false? Let me quote what I wrote because you seem to have poor comprehension skills... read it slowly, all of it, not just the bit you emotionally react to :) Condescending much? I understood it the first time thanks. "Myron's argument is that - rape is a crime, it is not cheered, it is not "allowed" therefore we do not have a rape culture. No one promotes or thinks rape is good. So yeah, he is right, "rape culture" is a myth. " This is just a copy of the same comment I already replied to. Why? And no …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 10:58 PM
4	Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false? I'm pretty sure I didn't make an edit (bit tired though after a long day at work in terrible weather, so maybe it's possible I don't remember), what are you referring to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 10:43 PM
3	Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false? Yep, definitely missed them. Do they even exist? And btw, there's also many posts on this sub of people "poo poo-ing" women's experiences, including abuse, disrespect by men etc. Do those posts prove anything to you? Anyway, you have no proof, not even a little bit, for your claim, so what was the point of replying to me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 10:37 PM
3	Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false? Based on what? What proof do you have of feminists making fun of or not believing male rape victims?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 10:18 PM
0	Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false? It isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 10:12 PM
0	Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false? rape is a crime, it is not cheered, it is not "allowed" therefore we do not have a rape culture. No one promotes or thinks rape is good. So yeah, he is right, "rape culture" is a myth. Jesus, did you actually think the term "rape culture" means "we cheer rape"? That's not what it means. Now, if you are interested in knowing what rape culture actually is, I suggest you go educate yourself. There are plenty of feminist subs that could explain it to you. There's even a specific sub designed for peo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 10:00 PM
2	Women's rights Vs. Women's responsibilities Nah, women are NOT obligated to smile, act nicely, be softspoken, or show how well raised she is to men. Do you know any women who have been arrested for not doing these things? Lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 10:03 PM
20	Q4W: Do you believe/know/think that your grandmothers have never loved your grandfathers? This story warms my heart, although it's sad she had to wait so long to enjoy her life, I'm so glad she was able to finally do that. Many others never got that chance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 09:52 PM
2	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. As do women. So what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 09:52 AM
1	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. OK that's fair enough. Does he also get a warning for his uncivil comments about "dumbing it down so women can understand"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 03:01 AM
1	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. Basically you're a coward who doesn't have the conviction to stand by his beliefs. Not surprising really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 11:54 PM
1	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. You could try real life. Are you not honest about your sexism in real life? And if not, why not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 11:49 PM
3	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. why do you even care what they think I don't personally care what they think about me. I care that men are getting away with treating women in general this way and comparing them to property, because we should have moved past this shit years ago, and I care that men like you act like it's no big deal, almost as if it's normal and natural. It isn't. Women were treated like the property of men in the past, and as a group we decided that's not acceptable. Why are you defending the perpetuation of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 08:31 PM
2	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. tell me the problem then. Making an analogy relating women to cars does not equal ‘women are property and nothing else’ simply because cars can be owned. Dude, you are choosing to not see the problem, because as a man, nobody has ever treated you like property or made analogies comparing you to property. Maybe try putting yourself in other peoples shoes from time to time. How do you think it would feel as a woman in 2023 who is educated and independent, earns her own money etc to have to listen …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 08:11 PM
1	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. Nope I don’t see any problem Well that about sums it up I guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:58 PM
6	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. You kind of do pay for your wife/gf though. With your time, money, and all sorts of other things Just like a woman does pay for her husband/bf too, with her time, money and all sorts of other things. But, the comment I replied to specifically compared women to cars (property) that you buy, then own, and that you don't want a car with high mileage on it (comparing a woman's, but oddly not a man's, sexual experience with "mileage") Do you see the problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:45 PM
10	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. Sure, when it comes to property that we pay to own. You're seriously stating that you see women as property of men? That you pay good money for so you don't want it to have too many previous owners that could have used up it's value? Gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:34 PM
12	Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences. For example: if a guy is not your ideal height but you like his face then give him a chance, don't be overly close minded just because he doesn't check all your preferences. So would you agree with men being told : If a woman has more previous sexual partners than you consider ideal, but you like her face (or personality or whatever), then give her a chance, don't be overly close minded because she doesn't check all your preferences?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:29 PM
1	Cats have more value than Red Pillers. elicited a strong emotional surge in your own physiology, possibly thousands of otehr women who read the statement I dunno about the other women, but there was no "emotional surge" in my physiology lol. I merely reacted logically to the banality of guys in 2023 still trying to put women down with little childish digs like "oh, must be on her period" every time a woman says something he doesn't like. Haven't we as a society moved past this? Well, most women have obviously, time for you guys to ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:14 PM
2	Cats have more value than Red Pillers. sophistication Riiight, sophisticated humour	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:06 PM
3	Newly Single Female Friend of 20+ Years Realizing the Wall is Approaching But you realise that a 45+ year old woman is also not trying to date a man who wants kids, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:02 PM
2	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can Cause black people are asking for equal treatment and opportunity As are women. Women are seeking consolidation on a reproductive monopoly base on looks. I really don't know what this means. You think that less good looking women shouldn't be allowed to procreate? Or that less good looking men should be entitled to procreate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 06:52 PM
2	Cats have more value than Red Pillers. Someone is on their period Are you unaware of the misogyny you've displayed with this comment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 06:50 PM
0	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can What do you believe? That men should be content with knowing that no woman wants them due to things they had absolutely no say But you do have a say in how you treat people. And if your belief is that you are a misogynist because women won't be the way you want them to be, no wonder no woman wants you. Did you even take one minute to think about what I said above?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 06:46 PM
1	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can "evolutionary psychology" is not really any better of a source than the ok cupid survey. Why didn't you respond to the rest of the comment? What are you basing those claims on? If you don't say, I and others here will have no choice but to assume you made them up (I already know you did btw).	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 06:40 PM
3	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can It's the perfect comparison. In what way do you disagree with it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 06:23 PM
0	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can Most guys don’t start out RP. They start out by respecting women as equals You're an idiot if you believe this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 06:15 PM
-1	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can I’m way less entitled than women are Hahahaha I’m saying women are trying to make this fantasy world a reality. What? I just believe men would invest more in being emotionally desirable if they knew women desired that more than looks Based on this comment and your OP, it seems your whole argument boils down to "men wouldn't be misogynistic towards women if women would just behave the way we men want them to behave". Please have a think about why you believe that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 05:51 PM
3	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can I still see the dating market and a strict hierarchy enforced by women Based on what? I think the amount of women who value looks before all with massively eclipse the women that don’t. Based on what? The majority of women care deeply about looks Based on what? So like 80% of men have to compete for the minority of non looks based women but because those women are in so demand, they become looks based. What is your 80% figure based on? Let me guess, the ok cupid survey, lol! I wonder if the ok c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 05:38 PM
3	Are women worse off if they follow traditional gender roles? But you said that someone compliant is better than an obnoxious overgrown child, therefore more men should be compliant, as unfortunately lots of them are obnoxious overgrown children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/23 10:40 AM
2	Are women worse off if they follow traditional gender roles? So you're saying that more men should be compliant?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/23 10:38 AM
1	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. There are literally men doing that right now. What you mean is that men don't get that easily. You don't want to put in the hard work to get what you want, you wish it would be handed to you. That's entitlement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/23 12:20 AM
13	It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMV Yeah sure because women know my attitude though a dating app profile Well your attitude is pretty obvious from this post, so yeah, it's probably apparent from your online dating profile too. Does your profile mention ridiculous concepts like how you demand "male authority" to be respected? Lolol!	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 10:32 PM
17	It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMV where women respect male authority This right here is why you're not successful with women in the US and why you imagine they have an attitude. You're the common denominator, it's your attitude that's the problem. 🤮	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 10:19 PM
0	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. Wow! So you're salty and jealous of others because you married a lazy person. You could have married a hard working woman and then you wouldn't be here complaining that men have to work so hard to finance women. All your own fault bro!	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 08:05 PM
-2	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. Well you clearly have a terrible attitude towards women. I don't know what else to say. Is this attitude working out well for you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 08:00 PM
1	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. Women's careers don't matter. Sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 07:16 PM
6	Is it inaccurate to say "men basically built the world"? What? Europe didn't have those things either until they did. The US didn't have those things until the Europeans gave it to them. You're still racist and sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 07:11 PM
18	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. I guesss im worng about that stat it looks more like 30% but i cant find good data on it. If you have no good data then you can't claim it's more like 30%, you're just making that up now so you won't look so bad for making up the 40% claim, lmao! Housevies are doing sf all thats not sexist at all its the easiest job in the world. If you say so, I wouldn't do that job, no matter how easy you say it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 07:09 PM
12	Is it inaccurate to say "men basically built the world"? Jesus fucking christ. How racist can you be? You actually think Africa has no buildings higher than one storey? And no written languages? Racist and sexist I see.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 07:03 PM
14	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. 40% of women are house wives current year That is certainly not the case in the western country I live in. Where did you get that statistic and which population does it apply to? people seem to forget that a lot of women do F all. This is just sexist and completely untrue for ordinary people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 06:45 PM
1	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. OP, you do know it's 2023 and women are also expected to be providers? I literally don't even know one woman my age or younger who doesn't have a paying job, including those with a husband /partner and children. Do you know lots of women who only have to look good and that's it? They don't have to contribute financially to their household at all? "women are made to feel …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 06:24 PM
2	For the committed ladies: how do you feel about your husband/boyfriend hiding money and investments from you as a backup plan? I asked this question because women are allowed to have a backup plan but it seems like men are not Wait... who is allowing women to have a back up plan but not allowing men? Do you think there is a law about this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/23 11:27 PM
20	What does ‘feminine’ mean to you? Not combative with your partner, This just sounds like "do what you're told and don't argue"	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 11:04 PM
14	What does ‘feminine’ mean to you? I think he means you should rely on your husband to provide the money you need to survive, otherwise you are not feminine. Isn't it shocking that we're still listening to shit like this in 2023.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 11:01 PM
3	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost How often does this happen? How often are you splitting the date expenses? Be honest I'll be honest. When I was in my early 20's I dated a guy who, (we split the bills on dates btw) as soon as we moved in together he quit his job because he "hated it and didn't see why he should do work he doesn't want to do, and promised he would get another one asap to pay his share of the rent" and who do you think paid the rent for months until she got the sense to break up? When I was in my 30's I dated a g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:43 PM
5	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost “the tendency for women to marry men with higher incomes than themselves persisted.” So according to you, a trend "persisting" is equal to "becoming more prevalent"? You're not worth discussing anything with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:33 PM
3	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Maybe next time you should pay attention to who you’re replying to before throwing accusations around and downvoting. I apologised for my mistake, if you can't accept a genuine apology that's your problem. Also, I hadn't downvoted you, not my fault that others here disagree with you. Anyways, my point is that women either marry across or up. Not down. I don't see why anyone should marry down. If some men choose to do that, well that's on them. Luckily for all of us, in 2023 in western countries …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:30 PM
5	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Female hypergamy is becoming more and more prevalent Bullshit. If you really believe this is true, you will have no problem providing proof. I'll wait. Could be a long wait eh..	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:24 PM
3	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost My apologies, that wasn't you. It was someone else who said women always date and marry up. I then refuted that (because it's not true), and you responded with "do they date down though?", that's not a suitable response. My question still stands : what point are you trying to make?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:21 PM
3	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost There are a non-trivial number of men who choose to pay for everything That's their choice, they can choose it if they wish, they are not forced to. However I have yet to find a single woman who chooses to do this. I've seen it. I've been it. Therefore male hypergamy is basically impossible Not impossible at all, how hard are you trying? female hypergamy is still alive and kicking Alive, yes, kicking, no definitely not, it's less and less by the year.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:18 PM
2	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Sure, just like if I went out with a guy who is unwilling to pay anything, then going out for dinner would be expensive for me. Both me and OP can choose to go out with these people or not, we're not being forced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:14 PM
5	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost So you've changed your stance from : As always, women date and marry UP to: But have any of them dated down? What point are you trying to make? The majority of people date and marry within their own social and economic class. Not many people go up or down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:09 PM
3	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Female hypergamy is prevalent enough that there are many relationships where the man pays for everything. No, "female hypergamy" was a thing for historical reasons, it's less and less of a thing because women can now earn their own money and have options besides getting married and having loads of kids. If there are still relationships where the man pays for everything, that's the man's choice, he could instead choose to date women who don't expect him to pay for everything, there are plenty of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:06 PM
4	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Well then he's wrong, about women in general. If the women he is choosing to date don't want to do that, maybe he should try dating a different kind of woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 10:01 PM
13	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost No, you misunderstand. OP is suggesting that the women expect him to pay for both him and her to eat out, go to clubs, go on holidays etc etc. And that this means women are unable to understand the value of money. I'm saying that women understand the value of money just fine, that he is dating a certain type of woman only, and that regular women, myself included, don't expect a man to pay all of this stuff, we expect to more or less split it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 09:12 PM
8	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Funny that of all the women I know, not one of them has dated or married "up".	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 09:08 PM
6	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost It's funny isn't it. He called me a european liberal feminist as if it's an insult, but I took it as a compliment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 09:05 PM
9	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Not really, per month, in a rich western european country	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 09:04 PM
7	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Sounds like you're a terrible person and are attracting other terrible people to you. Improving your attitude will do wonders for you in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 08:51 PM
8	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost I feel bad for you if this is your real situation. It's amazing to me to hear this as this is not at all how things are where I live. But then again I live in a country that takes feminism and gender equality seriously. Maybe your country is not feminist enough?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 08:43 PM
12	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost What? You cut out the end of my second quote. If I can afford to eat out and travel, should I date a guy who has no money and pay for us both to eat out and travel? The answer is no. Just like no guy I've ever dated has expected to pay for both of us to eat out and travel, we both have money so we split the expenses. What is your point/question /issue with this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 08:41 PM
11	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost So no comeback to what I actually said? No? Didn't think so! You've been proven wrong, the humble thing to do would be to graciously admit that, but you are probably unable to be humble eh?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 08:36 PM
9	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost So? If the man can afford $25 and the woman can afford $25 they can have a nice meal together. What's the problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 08:29 PM
13	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost No it isn't. If I go out with a guy, I can afford to eat out, travel etc, and so should he. I'm not expecting to pay for both of us, just like I wouldn't expect him to pay for both of us. It's not at all backing up what OP is saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 08:21 PM
15	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost You literally just proved my point No I didn't You expect a guy to have enough money to spend $100’s or maybe a $1000 a month on fun things for a relationship. No I don't. The fun things I do normally in life cost no more than a few hundred euro, and any guy I date (likely within my economic and social class) will also be spending a few hundred a month on fun stuff. The fact that we do some of that fun stuff together doesn't cost him any more than it costs me. Most guys don’t have the money for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 08:18 PM
26	CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things cost This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard on reddit in a while, as well as being sexist af After dating over 30 women and observing my guy friends relationships as well, women have absolutely zero idea about the value of money Now you've changed it from "pretty women" to just "women" To them, every guy they consider dating is going to be well off enough to eat out regularly, go to events, vacations, drive a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 07:53 PM
0	Single Parent Inherent Rights and Financial Abortion. Edit: All of you arguing my point, aren't doing a very good job, if you're going to block before receiving a rebuttal. It's clear that you don't believe your own bullshit. I replied to you, didn't block you and still haven't received a response from you!? Cool, then men get a unique choice because it's their bank accounts and future earnings that are uniquely burdened and endangered by pregnancy and for the next 18 years. This is incorrect, as I explained in my reply to you. Do you not have a re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/23 10:19 PM
10	Single Parent Inherent Rights and Financial Abortion. then men get a unique choice because it's their bank accounts and future earnings that are uniquely burdened and endangered by pregnancy and for the next 18 years. It isn't though, the woman will also be paying for the child for the next 18 years. There's nothing unique to men in having to pay to raise children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/23 06:46 PM
0	CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted baby They have a choice, to either parent their child, or walk away and pay child support. I literally can't fathom that anyone would not want to be involved in their child's life, but for people like that they have to at least contribute some money since they are not doing any of the hard work the woman is doing raising the child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/23 01:45 PM
5	CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted baby The problem with paper abortions is that while they make things fair and square between men and women They don't even do that. The man just signed a paper, the woman is still left to deal with the pregnancy and the very difficult choice between abortion (not a pleasant experience by any means) and childbirth (definitely not a pleasant experience) and then raising a child with no help, not even financially, from the other person who created that child. That's not exactly fair and square is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/23 01:34 PM
0	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them the main complaint is clearly that they want to be with their main partner earlier They don't get to be "with their partner earlier" just because they want to, women also have lives, rp men will just have to deal with that, or marry evangelical christians or whatever. In their 20s before said partner has slept with the entire town, and they now have to deal with all the trauma and baggage in their 30s. You have weird hangups about sex don't you? And that even then their partners can't stop the b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 11:25 PM
1	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them women give women the advice of never do anything for any man because they are kuweens In my 45 years of life I've never heard a woman give this advice to another woman "never do anything for any man" - nope, not something women say to each other. Got any example of a woman saying this to another woman? "Because they are kuweens" ha, nobody talks like that where I live lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 10:56 PM
1	Dating is really not that hard - a perspective from Europe I dunno what to tell you. From how you describe yourself it sounds like you've got the whole package that at least some, if not many, women would be attracted to. So where are things going wrong for you? What do you think?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 10:50 PM
1	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them And women do not like the men whose personality is porn and video games, but those men don't say that women just don't like men because they themselves aren't liked. Huh? Women don't even pause to think they aren't inherently likeable and may need to actually try to become interesting or funny All women, most women or some women? You've used a pretty broad brush there. And just to be clear, you're saying that women don't do this, so you are asserting that men "pause to think they aren't inherent…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 10:47 PM
1	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them Oh they sure do that	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 10:30 PM
9	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them What do women do to try and be liked? They don't need to develop personality as men do, because men lust for them so badly. Sure, if women's only prerogative in life was to attract a man. If she didn't need to be educated, build a career, have friends, have a life basically, then sure, she doesn't need to develop a personality. Their entire personality is social media 90% of the time Like young men's entire personality is video games and porn?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 10:22 PM
0	Dating is really not that hard - a perspective from Europe It’s not to credit of my own but my parents are rich as hell I have been to 75 countries, 7 continents, speak five languages, have loose friends in quite a few different countries around the world, have been to 6 Super Bowls, 4 world cups, etc, etc Sounds like you've had a privileged life compared to most. It's cool that you can attend so many major events, but honestly attending things because you can afford to is not that impressive. You are singlehandedly destroying the whole redpill idea tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 10:19 PM
1	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them Yep	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 09:42 PM
2	For the first time since 2010, the percent of women under 35 who have not had sex in the last year has surpassed that of similar aged men Who said it does?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 09:41 PM
0	Dating is really not that hard - a perspective from Europe Your response comes across as overly aggressive. how you must be some outcast weirdo to not have a date/kiss by your 20s is fucking weird I'm sorry that people treated you this way. However, most regular people do have their first kiss before the age of 20, but maybe you have some extenuating circumstances or were just extremely unlucky, I don't know, but I don't think it's nice of anyone to call you an outcast or a weirdo. Just because you have lived a life where just being remotely unique is e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 09:40 PM
6	For the first time since 2010, the percent of women under 35 who have not had sex in the last year has surpassed that of similar aged men Oh, I'm usually pretty good at picking up on sarcasm, didn't get it this time lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 09:25 PM
11	For the first time since 2010, the percent of women under 35 who have not had sex in the last year has surpassed that of similar aged men Doubtful. Most men these days are absolutely not looking for a pure virginal woman (at least here in my country they are definitely not), so who are women trying to appear this way for? What good would it do them to appear this way?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 09:11 PM
3	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them Nope, because you said "women", as in "women in general" and basically described them all as gold diggers. Is that what you really think or was it just a poor attempt at being clever?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 09:02 PM
9	RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to them I'm not the person you replied to, but yes, it's very obvious they are jealous of every guy who gets to have sex or a relationship with a woman, and also extremely jealous of women 'being able to get sex so easily' - that's their words, I've read them many times on this sub and some others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 08:58 PM
-1	Dating is really not that hard - a perspective from Europe They don’t want to take any risk IRL, or try new activities, or talk to people who don’t immediately make their dick hard. This is such a good and interesting and true point. Trying new things, learning different skills and talking to a variety of people of different genders, age groups and phase of life is so life enriching and generally makes you a more interesting person with better social skills. No wonder these guys can't get dates, they are shallow and boring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 08:53 PM
1	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? By your logic, if you can't 100% find out for sure or if only two people know about it, then it's none of your business. I added an edit but maybe you didn't see it before replying. My logic is that it's none of your business. Also, you have no way to find out so let it go. I do wonder why so many guys on reddit care so much when guys out in the real world don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 12:16 PM
2	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? You probably could find that out though, because none of that stuff was done completely in private between two people. Others know about them, they were likely arrested for some of those things, there are records. There's no other person besides myself who knows how many people I've had sex with, it's not publicly available information. Edit to add:. Also I wasn't suggesting it's not your business BECAUSE you can't find out, but that it's not your business and you can't find out anyway so why pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 12:01 PM
2	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? So if you can't find out about something, it isn't your business and you aren't allowed to care about it? Yes, because sex is something private between two people, so it really is nobody else's business. What if your husband had visited a brothel in his youth? Is that none of your business? Yep, none of your business.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 10:18 PM
0	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? No, we just acknowledge that the question would be received poorly. Yeah keep telling yourself that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 10:14 PM
2	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? No it isn't. You can insist something is your business all you like, but if you have no way to find it out then it's very obviously not your business.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 07:14 PM
5	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Ask your mother/father, they’d likely tell you the same Sorry but you want me to ask my mother and father what? My mother who got married at 19 and is only still with my father because divorce was not even legal here until the 1990's and was frowned upon due to the catholic ethos of the country, and is still somewhat frowned upon? And my father, who is still with her for the same reasons, even though they barely tolerate each other, as is the case with many many couples their age. What do you wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 05:53 PM
-3	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Or maybe no reason to ask at all because it really doesn't matter?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 05:39 PM
2	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? If a women is sleeping around with multiple men you can not guarantee paternity. Yes, as I said, if the woman is sleeping with other men while sleeping with you and gets pregnant, you cannot be sure of paternity. If she slept with other men before you but is only sleeping with you now then paternity is certain. Women generally have a bunch of standard that is also rooted in evolution, yet men accept it. Not sure what you mean by this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 05:30 PM
11	What is considered a “High Body Count” ? A woman is made to be with one man You state that like it's a fact, but it isn't, it's a belief. Can I ask where you got such a belief from? And also, do you think a man is made to be with one woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 05:13 PM
7	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Body count matters due to paternal uncertainty No this doesn't make sense. Paternal uncertainty can only be caused by the woman being with other men at the same time as she's with you. How many people she was with before you has no bearing on paternal uncertainty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 04:57 PM
4	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? I'm eliciting responses from you that outline the solipsism inherent in your worldview I completely disagree with this. I'm not sure you really understand what solipsism is. Because I don't agree with asking people about things that are really none of your business does not mean I am selfish or not self-aware.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 04:42 PM
4	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? In what way do the men I've been with not have privacy about their past? I just told you I never asked that. I also don't expect them to ask me private information about my past. I've never been fake, like I haven't led a guy to believe I'm a virgin, guys I've been with know I've had sex before, the number of times, number of partners and specifics of sex acts are none of their business. What are you having trouble understanding?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 04:30 PM
7	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? No man I've been with has ever asked how many previous sexual partners I've had, and no, I've never asked a man if they've hired sex workers, lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 04:19 PM
7	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? You literally just advocated for men getting a woman drunk and tricking her into admitting something (that is none of your business). people love to lie about their intentions, their past, who they are, what they want, etc I'm not sure I would agree that people love to do this, but I agree that people do this, men and women both. At least when men are deceitful, they admit to being assholes Is this a joke?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 04:13 PM
0	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Is it absurd to recognize that women deem men with lower N-counts than themselves to be impotent? That's our lived experience as men, and it's what drives the underlying fear of N-count asymmetry. I completely disagree. There might be some guys like this, but the overwhelming reason why many men even care about a partner or potential partner's "bodycount" is due to historical/patriarchal reasons of men believing that women are their property, and thus not wanting their property to have been used…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 04:10 PM
1	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Funny because I'm a 45 year old woman and my experience is definitely that women don't "glob together" based on how many sexual partners they have. It's hilarious that you think they do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 04:04 PM
4	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? This is disgusting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:56 PM
4	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? This just makes me think you are very young and inexperienced. Yes, people are generally friends with those they have something in common with, but the things they have in common are extremely varied, especially as time goes on. Anyone who only makes friends with people exactly like themselves is, frankly, missing out on all life has to offer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:53 PM
2	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Thanks bro, and yes, next time I'm in a relationship I will leave the guy if I can't trust him to say the truth, thanks for this gem 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:50 PM
3	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Yes it does. You seem to think that women make friends based on just one metric : whether they have the same views on casual sex as each other. That's such nonsense and it does sound like you don't realise that women are people with different sides to them besides the sex appeal that is likely the only thing you can see about women. How sad that is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:43 PM
4	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? I think it's more that you wouldn't know she's lying, and the only reason she would be lying is that she knows that many men have this weird hangup about how many previous partners his woman had (which harks back to patriarchal norms of a woman being the property of a man) and not because she's a liar in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:33 PM
3	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? That's nonsense. I know I've had a variety of friends over the years and I'm not special. Personality and lifestyle, yeah. But both personality and lifestyle mean a lot more than how many people you have sex with. Honestly, this just sounds like you don't realise that women are real people with interests (besides finding a man).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:22 PM
17	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? It's interesting that in other discussions on this sub about this topic, guys always go on about how important it is for them to know this about a woman etc etc. But this post has exposed that most guys will not outright ask a woman, they go for "indirect" questions (indirect questions lead to indirect answers, if you need to know something you have to be brave enough to ask). Just shows that these guys know how absurd it is to ask this and obviously fear that the woman will laugh, and break up …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:12 PM
3	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? So you believe people tell the truth at all times? Interesting....	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:06 PM
6	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? This is nonsense. I have friends who have been with 2 or 3 guys max then got married and been with her husband since. I also have friends who have been with over 100 guys, and friends in between. You could absolutely not tell anything based on who my friends are, and I expect it's the same for most women. I mean, you do know people become friends based on other things than whether they are "hoes" or not, lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 03:05 PM
3	For guys that really care about body count, do you ask? Bullshit	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 02:56 PM
2	"Body count" metrics don't really help determine anything I knew this argument was going to come out eventually: “we’re not cavemen and cavewomen anymore.” But we're not. So why do women still fixate on height and wealth and status? How would I know? You would have to ask some of the women who fixate on height and wealth and status. I'm not one of them and neither are my friends. I think you are grossly overestimating how many women are fixated on those things. We still have lizard brains that operate in the background and guide our subconscious behavi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 02:10 PM
0	"Body count" metrics don't really help determine anything You do realise that in 2023 we have evolved to the point that we don't need to only follow our "biological imperatives". You talk as if we are still primitive, living in caves, trying to escape predators. People nowadays do a lot of things that are not in line with what is "evolutionarily" necessary or safe. This is just redpill (aka sexist) men using evolution/biology to justify the notion of women being the property of men, a notion that those of us who have progressed ruled out years ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/23 01:57 PM
2	Women of Reddit, what is your actual body count vs. the body count you tell the men you're with when they ask? I personally don't mind the number so long as it's not something crazy like 50 when she's 25. But how would you ever know? You said above that you believe women travel to other cities to have secret sex that no one will know about (lol!), so you will never really know and just have to accept that fact. Unless you only plan to date or marry women who have never left their home town, but even then you don't know if they have slept with guys who were visiting for the weekend or just passing through…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/23 10:00 PM
3	Leftover men are still more useful to society than leftover women How do you explain it in countries that don't have quotas?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/23 06:29 PM
1	The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex! I already knew that, thanks for pointing it out though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/23 09:46 PM
2	The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex! According to who?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/23 09:45 PM
2	The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex! Being pretty has privileges Yes, being good looking brings privileges, for men and women. I didn't say otherwise. Or as one of my wife’s sorority sisters once exclaimed “hey, did you know there are women out there that actually have to pay for drinks?!” This has nothing at all to do with what I wrote, so I'm not sure what point you're making really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/23 09:44 PM
0	The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex! Wait.. where did you get the statistic that 60% of men are "opting out" of dating? I don't think that's anywhere close to being correct.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/23 09:41 PM
7	The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex! No, but they are constantly suggesting that it's unfair to them that the better looking guys get more attention from women, and that women are so shallow, even though the better looking women also get more attention from guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/23 09:26 PM
0	The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher. Come 2 months from now that study will pop up again and some feminist will argue until they are blue in the face how they are still right…. Because it justifies their life. And then in two months time, red pill guys will counter that with a vox article that apparently "debunks" the study and argue til they are blue in the face that they were right all along that women can't be happy unless they are married with children..... because it justifies their beliefs	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/23 10:12 PM
5	The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher. Yes, in the modern era being single doesn't mean being celibate. Maybe that's why lots of single women are happy being single, they can have the best of both worlds - regular good sex and no guy expecting her to do all the housework while they both have full time jobs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/23 09:58 PM
1	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? If I thought it could change your mind, I would Haha you didn't research anything, it was a made up story, as I pointed out. I"m embarrassed for you. You're not only being a dishonest liar but trying to pretend that you have done research (but can't provide it for some reason) is pretty pathetic mate. I've met plenty of feminists such as yourself on this sub who refuse to acknowledge the privileges that modern western women share over their male counterparts. Your fake story above didn't mention…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 06:11 PM
1	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? So if you don't make up stories and only report facts, I'm sure you will have no problem telling us what sources you researched in order to make the claim that modern women in general "post-marriage, they continue to party hard with their Chad "friends", while hubby is out there still making money and funding her cheating lifestyle."	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 01:44 PM
0	Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable? That wasn't the assertion in your OP. The assertion you made was : Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 02:24 AM
6	Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable? "Sexual partner distributions" does not equal "sexually desire". Do you have any proof at all for the assertion you've made in this post?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 01:49 AM
7	Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable? Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data What data is that? (I have my fingers crossed you're not going to reply with that ok cupid "study").	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 01:26 AM
1	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? Nope I responded to the comment I meant to respond to. Cool story though, did you do a creative writing class or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 12:02 AM
1	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? Dude, you didn't tell us you were a fiction writer. Well done! That's a good story you made up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 10:56 PM
2	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? What I said was that women don't want a homeless man or an autistic man or a short man Men don't want a homeless woman either, or an autistic one, or an obese one, or a super tall one... because those men can't fulfil men's traditional gender roles... Are you sure that's why? I think you are conflating two separate issues. Most people want to date and marry someone who is like themselves, also someone capable and they can proudly be with. You think most men will proudly introduce their homeless …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 07:37 PM
3	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? This comment is all over the place and it's very hard to understand what you're trying to say. It seems you are implying that if more women dated and married homeless or autistic men, then they would be happy because those men would protect them like the "traditional" men they are? Lol, I doubt that's what you are trying to say but that's how it's coming across.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 06:53 PM
3	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? I don't have any children and don't plan to. But I think you're mistaken, the idea that fathers put in effort to help raise their children is the modern way. The "traditional" way would be the woman raises the children more or less singlehandedly while the man goes out to work to earn the money, then goes to the pub or playing golf on the weekends. It's modern fathers who are joining in with raising their children, not traditional ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 06:15 PM
2	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? What? You're not making sense here. I just looked it up to get the exact number. The average age of mothers at the birth of their first child is 31.7. This includes all mothers giving birth in the country, even immigrants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 06:11 PM
2	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? You're suggesting that women in general want to take cocaine? Gonna need a source for that (which you don't have as all statistics will show you that men abuse substances more than women). And that women in general want to be "railed" (as you put it) in a nightclub bathroom. Seriously doubtful, but I will patiently await your proof of that. Modern women seek to ho it up until biology forces them to bring their shriveled eggs to market This may be the dumbest thing I've ever read. Seriously, when…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 06:08 PM
6	Are there any other truly purple pilled men or women here? No shame in that. I disagree, he should be ashamed of what he wrote, he obviously doesn't respect women at all, and will likely be quite controlling of any woman who ends up in a relationship with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 05:59 PM
3	Are there any other truly purple pilled men or women here? Thanks for this, it gave me a good laugh!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 05:57 PM
2	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? "Peeing on the sidewalk" oh man I'm in stitches here! I did say that women want to have experiences and achievements just like men do, so just to be clear : is it your assertion that young men in general want the things you listed here as experiences and achievements? Weird. It might be what you want but I doubt most men would agree with you. Lmao!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 05:27 PM
2	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? the type of man that can offer you a traditional lifestyle was always out of your reach What makes you say that? I mean, I know I could have had a traditional lifestyle with a traditional man based on several things, like how some of my peers have traditional lifestyles with traditional men- it's far from unheard of where I come from, and the fact that when I was in my early twenties I had plenty of offers from these type of guys, but I turned them down because it wasn't what I wanted. But I'm c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 05:18 PM
1	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? Sure, I don't exactly disagree, but you do know that women are generally fertile until mid 40's? Less fertile than 20's sure, but women have things to experience and achieve in their 20's just like men, which is why the average age for a woman having her first child is now early 30's. Nothing wrong with that and the manosphere can suck it	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 04:03 PM
6	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? Mmm I've seen them say that women were happier when they were in the dependent role in the past. Ha! The guys of the manosphere delude themselves about things like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 03:32 PM
9	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? a large percentage of your eggs are gone by 30 Ooh scary! Should we all be so scared that we rush out to find a "traditional" man before we turn 30 in case we run out of eggs? Luckily modern medicine has allowed people to have children at a much later time in their life. In my country it's now normal for a 30 year old to have their first child, people are considered very young to have kids in their 20's, and nobody bats an eye at a 40 year old pregnant woman. Women don't have to feel threatened …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 03:30 PM
6	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? If you want labor to be well paid then cut the work force in half. Good idea, I think it's men's turn this time to be submissive to the women and stay home cleaning the house, raising the kids etc while women go out and earn good money which they can use to provide for their family but also to go drinking with the girls and have an affair. I mean, it was the other way around for a long time, it's men's turn now right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 02:33 PM
11	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? How so? As a woman (a modern one), I don't want any "traditionalism", whether it's one way or two.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 02:28 PM
13	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? Women today demonstrate behaviors that aren't traditional, but want traditional men. Well I'm a woman who is not traditional and I don't want a traditional man. I know lots of women like me. Where are you getting your information about today's women? Traditional women weren't promiscuous, or at least not open and proud about it. They were feminine, acted like a lady, made an effort to look good at all times, listened to men's authority, etc. Whether or not we agree any of that is good, that's ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 02:26 PM
12	Do men really want traditionalism more than women? I would rather traditionalism over what we have now. Personally I would rather what we have now over traditionalism. I actually like providing, so I don't mind taking on the role of a trad husband as long there's a wife who will take care of the kids and their chores while I'm gone Being dependent on another person for my livelihood is one of my worst nightmares. If I were to ever marry (unlikely for me) I would rather have an equal partner. I like kids but wouldn't ever want to raise them full …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 02:10 PM
3	Question for both genders: what do you wish your own gender would stop doing or do more of? Sure, many women choose the wrong man and many men choose the wrong woman. This is usually because people who are abusive/manipulative are often good at hiding this for a long time. It's no reason to victim blame people who get raped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 12:13 AM
1	Question for both genders: what do you wish your own gender would stop doing or do more of? You are disgusting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 09:40 PM
1	Question for both genders: what do you wish your own gender would stop doing or do more of? Do you think the same about children who get raped? They should have worn different clothes? Should have chosen the adults in their life better? What about men who get raped by women? According to you people should know in advance if someone will rape them to avoid that person? I'm not ashamed of myself in the slighest You really really should be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 08:47 PM
10	Question for both genders: what do you wish your own gender would stop doing or do more of? You really just blamed women who are raped for being raped! Wtf!	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 07:26 PM
9	New study finds men are leaving the workforce en masse, why work hard if you are not entitled to a wife nor children? This already happened in Japan by men turning into Hikkikomori and japanese economy is in the brink of collapse, men have left the plantation since there's nothing left for them You obviously don't have the right qualifications. My job hands out husbands, but be aware you will be taxed for benefit in kind /s 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:47 PM
4	New study finds men are leaving the workforce en masse, why work hard if you are not entitled to a wife nor children? This already happened in Japan by men turning into Hikkikomori and japanese economy is in the brink of collapse, men have left the plantation since there's nothing left for them the current expectation for men in western society is to work until you drop dead, This is most certainly not the expectation here in western europe. When you say "western society" are you sure you don't mean the US only?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:46 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? This is a much bigger topic that I can't see the point in getting into here and now as this post has been deleted. But a few things for you to think about : What does promiscuous mean? Is it a number, or does it also depend on what sex acts someone has or hasn't done? Why would a man not want to be with a promiscuous woman? What's the actual problem with that? If it's a number then which number means someone is promiscuous? Some would say 2, others 15, others 50. If it's 15, why is 14 ok but 15 …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:39 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? Of course everyone can have any standards they want, doesn't mean they will find someone who meets their standards and is willing to be with them. A woman can also have standards and for many women one of those standards is not dating a guy who believes my value lies in how many people I have been intimate with, or not dating someone who thinks they have a right to know private intimate information about my life before he met me. You just have to deal with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:22 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? That wasn't an insult. I don't think you're a moron, I said don't be one, you know, use your head a little. If you don’t want to disclose nobody forces you to, but you can’t be mad at a guy if he decides to not see you again because you don’t want to tell him. I never suggested anyone should be mad at any guy for choosing not to see them again for whatever reason. Likewise, you can't be mad at a woman if she laughs in your face then dumps you for asking such a ridiculous question. She will move …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:16 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? Yes, people are free to do as they please, I never said otherwise. You're missing the part where the woman is free to dump him because he asked such a stupid and invasive question about her private life before he even knew her. But again, normal guys don't ask this, so if anyone ever does ask, I will immediately know he's not the one for me, it would most likely mean he is "redpilled" ew!	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:00 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? No, don't be a moron. What part of it's not your business do you not understand?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:56 PM
0	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? When I applied for my mortgage or a loan the bank didn't ask for my credit score, they went and obtained it as it's documented and available to banks, for a reason. It is the banks business to check that info. If they asked, how many people do you think would lie? What I have done sexually in private with another consenting adult is nobody's business, it's not documented so you cannot obtain it. Because it's literally not your business. Also, I have never considered someone I'm dating as a finan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:39 PM
2	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? If a guy asks you that question, run, far away from him. No normal decent guys ask that of a woman (source: 45 year old woman - no guy has ever asked me that, not one night stands, not 3 month flings, not serious long term partners with the possibility of marriage, none) because why would he need to know that? Sex is a private thing between two people, it's nobody else's business. Don't worry yourself OP, your future partner will likely be a normal guy who knows how to talk to women, not an over…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 01:59 PM
1	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? As long as men aren't under the delusion that they'd fare any better against emotion than a woman if they suddenly had their hormones swapped to match ours. The problem is most of them are under this delusion, and use it to justify thinking women are beneath them in some way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 10:44 AM
1	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? I'm not really sure a blow by blow of one argument you had with your girlfriend is really useful here, I don't think it adds to the conversation. But anyway, I know so many men who have countless tales of this with the women they’re dating and have dated. And I know countless women who have had to deal with their boyfriends/husbands moodiness. What's your point? You seem to just want others to confirm that your bias against women is correct. It isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:16 AM
2	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? I'm getting more and more confused about what your point is here? That you know your parents true personality so well you can assume all men and women are just like them? The people we are when we go out or go to work isn’t the real us I feel sorry for you, how do you keep up the facade for 40 hours a week?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 12:15 AM
4	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? They followed very traditional gender roles and managed to stay married through some rough times This has no relevance to the current conversation. so it’s unlikely they are far outliers for a married couple imo Again, no relevance. Honestly unless you’re married for a very long time, who else besides your own parents and maybe siblings do you get to observe their behaviors over a very long period of time of decades? Most of my gfs only dated me for 1-2 years, which isn’t long enough to get a re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/23 11:11 PM
3	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? I read it- you say it's a small sample size (no shit), but that you wouldn't be surprised if it were a lot more common than we realise. What makes you believe it's more common than just your mother and father? What makes you think there aren't loads of couples out there where the woman behaves the way you associate with your father and the man behaves the way you associate with your mother?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/23 10:58 PM
8	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? what I’m trying to convey is that men tend to be more stoic and are seen as more logical in how they view and process things, whereas women tend to be more moody and prone to having her feelings fluctuate somewhat moderately throughout the day or days These are views that go way back to more patriarchal times than we live in now. It was easier to keep women in a place below that of men if you convinced everyone that men are naturally stoic and logical and women naturally have highly erratic emot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/23 10:50 PM
3	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? Sorry but this is ridiculous. You're basing your opinions "women legitimately think they are being logical even when they are clearly not" on one woman you know, and "When a man lashes out due to rage, he usually later acknowledges that it was an anger management issue" on one man you know. My opinion would be different to yours, but I am basing mine on the many many men and women I've known in my life, not just one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/23 10:44 PM
17	“Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? “Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors? The content of your post doesn't match the title. The content shows that you believe men are emotional due to their hormones and women are emotional due to their hormones. What exactly do you want to discuss here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/23 10:32 PM
1	CMV: A girl liking your money is a good thing not bad By Women. This is accomplished through sexual selection and 'dating up' which is an observable and well-documented phenomenon. Lol "actively shamed". Right lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/23 10:55 PM
2	CMV: A girl liking your money is a good thing not bad Are you sure ? Because I see many women my age simply following their boyfriends/spouses on their journey through graduate school. Yes, I'm sure. From this comment I guess you must be quite old, or living in a non western country. Here in my western, very feminist, country, I see men marrying or being in long term relationships with women of roughly equal education as them. I've seen a woman following a boyfriend/spouse on their journey through graduate school about as often as I've seen a man f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/23 10:16 PM
0	How to tell if a girl had a hoe phase in college but cleaned up afterwards? She should let him go. I wish she could see this post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/23 09:42 PM
2	How to tell if my girl had a hoe phase in college but cleaned up afterwards? My god, if you need this explained to you there's really something wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/23 09:14 PM
3	CMV: A girl liking your money is a good thing not bad Welcome to the modern world where everyone, including women, "have to actually build competence and wealth" on their own to obtain security. Get a grip on yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/23 08:47 PM
6	How to tell if my girl had a hoe phase in college but cleaned up afterwards? She resisted heavily before putting out on the 2nd date Dude. Are you aware of how this sounds?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/23 08:38 PM
4	If a straight man is (at least partially) unattracted to femininity, what does that mean? Logic and courage are not "masculine" traits, they are "human" traits. All humans possess them in varying degrees. I don't even understand how someone with an ounce of intelligence can ask "how are they not masculine traits?". Have you never seen or heard of a woman being courageous, for example? Of course you have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/23 08:39 PM
2	If a straight man is (at least partially) unattracted to femininity, what does that mean? The OP said: The reason why I described the above traits as "masculine" or "feminine" is because men or women respectively are more likely to have them, or have them to a larger extent. They provided no proof that they are. You are now backing up the OP's stance but you also have no proof. Care to provide any?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/23 08:28 PM
2	If a straight man is (at least partially) unattracted to femininity, what does that mean? How are they?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/23 08:21 PM
5	If a straight man is (at least partially) unattracted to femininity, what does that mean? Nah, I call bullshit. I mean, you've included "being more logical" and "courage" as masculine traits when they aren't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/23 07:18 PM
4	Statistics on single women buying properties on their own Not unless you can prove that most women own homes because of "divorce rape" (what a disgusting term). You may as well say that men own fewer homes than women because men are lazy or bad with their money, for all the proof you have for that statement. In my case, I own my own home because of hard work and a bit of luck in being ready to enter the housing market at the optimal time, no divorce rape necessary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 03:29 PM
4	What, or when, do you think the breaking point will be? Men are more analytical that's why they have all the jobs that require those skills. All the jobs? You sure about that bud? Look, you're making a fool of yourself here, basically saying that men are more intelligent than women and "better" than women (yes I know you didn't say those words, but your comments imply this). You might want to think about how you developed this viewpoint and why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 03:15 PM
9	What, or when, do you think the breaking point will be? Most women dont have the analytical or critical thinking skills to do most hard science, engineering, or manufacturing jobs I stopped reading your comment at this point. Just because you have been brought up to see women as inferior doesn't make it true. You should follow the advice of your username and go do some self reflection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 03:09 PM
1	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? This comment bears no relation to my comment that you're replying to? Also, catastrophic consequences Lol, dramatic much?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 12:06 AM
2	No matter how good-looking a man is, he isn't able to escape the burden of competence. Well asking me to provide proof of something "to the contrary" of your experience is pretty difficult isn't it? I didn't ask you to provide proof of something to the contrary of what I said. You made an assertion (about women), I asked if you have any proof of that as my vast experience of people tells me otherwise. If you're not going to address this then there's no point in responding to the rest of what you said, as you are basically just making stuff up in your head and asserting it as truth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 11:06 PM
2	No matter how good-looking a man is, he isn't able to escape the burden of competence. Do you have proof that that are aside from "in my experience"? No. That's why I said "in my experience... " and not "statistics show..." I've seen women who have quite stable government/regular jobs create offspring with jokes. Ok. I haven't. But, if you have seen that then you have surely seen the opposite? Men with stable jobs create offspring with jokes? If not, I would say you have cognitive bias. They are "chronically broke" and they are quite functional in their day to day lives. Their vag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 10:55 PM
1	No matter how good-looking a man is, he isn't able to escape the burden of competence. Aren't the women who have children with those guys also chronically broke or mentally unstable? In my experience they are. Do you have proof to the contrary? Literally no woman I know well in my life would consider having children with a guy like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 10:23 PM
4	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? Yep, even years ago, before I ever heard of reddit, red pill, the manosphere etc, if a guy I was dating had asked that I would have been like "huh? why do you want to know that?". It would have been such a weird question to me. Plus, I've travelled a lot and lived in a few different countries so if I lied he would have no way of knowing, which makes the question even dumber and weirder. The guys on reddit who say they wouldn't date or marry someone with a high "bodycount" make me laugh, because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 10:18 PM
10	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? Yes, thank you for saying this. I'm 45 years old, and not one man I have ever slept with or been in a relationship has asked me that. If they had I probably would have laughed. It's such a ridiculous question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 10:05 PM
5	Is MGTOW the solution then? people don’t think that long term. Especially women. Where did you get this information, that women especially don't think long term? It sounds like something you made up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/23 10:41 PM