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Helicopter parents refers to parenting college aged kids. It doesn't apply to the under 18s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 04:45 PM
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I guess I'm one of "those" parents. The reason is that one, my child possibly has autism. His behaviour isn't normal, so I can't leave him with other parents because they don't know how to deal with him, let alone leave him alone. Also, I am also antisocial and arranging play dates I find exhausting and difficult. I'd also prefer to just be on my phone than socialise. So I am an anti-social mother with an anti-social son. Other kids in my son's year actually do play together quite a lot, and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 04:44 PM
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Basically, a woman can get wet without her being mentally turned on. It seems to be a physical defense against rape. I've read this as well, but as far as I know this isn't substantiated by any evidence. I'm sceptical. The vagina is a mucous membrane and continually produces moisture/ discharge. Cervical mucous is also lubricating and unassociated with arousal. Even unaroused women can have sex without arousal and without sustaining damage. "Getting wet" is different, this occurs during sexual a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 01:11 PM
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But a growing percentage of men can’t get sex. Will that trend continue though? 7000 years ago only 1 man was reproducing out of every 17, that's pretty much as bad as it gets for men. https://bigthink.com/philip-perry/the-mystery-of-the-neolithic-bottleneck-may-be-over-thanks-to-one-plucky-undergrad From a long term perspective, things seem pretty good for men right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:04 PM
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Lol. For one, we're out of the newborn stage, this is all ancient history. I'm just explaining stuff for the kids at home. Secondly, he's not getting ass-fucked at work. Stop projecting your own issues onto my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:47 AM
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Yup. Try getting 45 minutes of sleep, getting up for an hour and a half, then getting up after only 45 minutes again, constantly getting interrupted in your REM cycle, whilst your husband gets an uninterrupted 10 hours... you will want to murder him, I promise. Try doing all the housework and changing all the nappies after having major abdominal surgery, whilst your husband plays on his phone and never changes a single nappy... you'll want to murder him, I promise. It definitely gets better as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:00 AM
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With newborns, sex drive may in fact plummet due to stress , lack of sleep, shift of priorities/time etc. Generally I agree with you but what people seem to miss is that a lot of this is physiological. Breastfeeding releases prolactin, a hormone that is also responsibly for the refractory period in men; it dampens libido and can make you incapable of arousal and orgasm. It also prevents ovulation and stops menstruation. This is evolved, because having births too closely together is bad as it inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 08:40 AM
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It's for the same reason you don't see female TRP defenders with kids as much. Kids are hard work and taking care of them sucks and is boring. I was more TRP, then I had kids and wished my husband would put in more work around the home so I could focus more on my career, now I'm more TBP. :). It's not because of scorn and rejection, it's because sitting back and letting your wife take care of you, do all the housework and childcare, whilst you work your kush job, is more fun. (This does not appl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 08:24 AM
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Where this has actually been studied, in younger people, this isn't the case. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2011.569637 women's sexual desire was significantly and negatively predicted by relationship duration after controlling for age, relationship satisfaction, and sexual satisfaction. Men's sexual desire, however, was not significantly affected by the duration of their romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 07:27 AM
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Of course Bezos is a beta. If he wasn't, he'd have a kinky, submissive wife at home By all accounts I am the kinky, submissive wife and my husband is definitely not a chad/alpha, he's the nerdy type - considerably less rich than Bezos. Anyway I'm confused, I though the TRP version of "chad"/"alpha" was a guy who fucks around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:51 PM
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Sort of, it's raw data from okcupid: http://web.archive.org/web/20130107203246/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 03:38 PM
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I once chased a guy for half a mile because I wanted to look at his face because I liked how he looked from behind. This was last week. Hard to catch up because I have short legs. Verdict: was disappointing, ah well. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 03:35 PM
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I dated older much guys when I was 18, they were all total losers compared the guys I dated when I was 24+. I'm not sure if I just had really poor judgement when I was younger, or if the dating pool of guys that age were just all creeps that would date a much younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 06:08 PM
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Well at least it's feasible! What's crazy about that graph is there's nothing a woman can do to be as attractive as a shorter girl. Man, I didn't realise how privileged I was to be 5'3"!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 03:04 PM
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Maybe you should try hitting on olger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:56 PM
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I think this has a ring of truth to it, but the more formal treatment of it is in game theory. Basically, one of the best strategies is actually a relatively cooperative one. Individuals that repeatedly defect actually do quite poorly. This article has a nice treatment of the whole problem: https://www.quantamagazine.org/game-theory-explains-how-cooperation-evolved-20150212/ On a personal level, I tend towards tit for tat, and it's actually not a very good strategy because you get trapped in cyc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:46 AM
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Donate them to the sale and my school or a charity shop, or hand them down. The thing is kids clothes don't last forever, kids are hard on them. I've thrown away at least two pairs of leggings this year that I bought new because they've gotten holes in them from them wiping out on the pavement. And they get stained and whatnot. The only clothes that end up in a charity shop have to be in good condition, and a lot of times they're in good condition because the kid never wore them for a good reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 04:28 PM
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We don't have yard sales, is what I'm saying we don't have, lol. What do you do for school uniform?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 09:24 AM
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Ha, a flat is about the same as renting a house here. Maybe 80-90% lower. But not half the price, sorry, the maths don't work out that way. 50-50 custody is always going to be more expensive in total, because you've got kids living in a place part-time, that's always space that's going to waste half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:22 AM
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Nope. We have charity shops, which sell donated clothes. But they're pretty picked over. Plus sometimes they charge a lot because it's a charity and they're trying to make money! It's not really cheap. Sometimes you can get new stuff for cheaper. I'm just saying that shopping used might get you like... 10% lower? Maybe? But only until they're 5. It's not the massive cash savings like people in this thread who don't have kids seem to think. What really saves money is shopping at Primark lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:19 AM
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Sew your own fucking clothes? HAHAHAHA fabric is wayyyyyy more expensive than clothes already made. Hand me downs? All baby stuff, for the same exact reason the charity shops don't have any bigger stuff. yard sales? We don't have those in the UK, again I do shop at like the schools' rummage sale for clothes, but really you do have to buy new for the majority of stuff. Look, stop digging yourself a bigger hole, I already agreed that clothing is not the most expensive part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 04:19 AM
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My girlfriend spends $400 a month on clothes and believes this is unavoidable Right, she's wrong, but you do realise that children.... get bigger? I do shop at charity shops, but at least where I live there's like rarely anything bigger than size 4 or 5. I haven't been able to get anything for my oldest from one for at least a couple years. Clothing definitely isn't the biggest cost though, it's definitely housing, particularly housing where there are good schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 03:56 AM
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That really surprises me. When I was single I had no desire to ever be a step-mom. And for the ones that didn't have custody, I judged them for not being in their kids' lives and being a bad father. So single dads were damned if they do, damned if they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:28 AM
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too lazy to be a good wife. Maybe. I have an education and a career and I'm an incredibly lazy wife. It turns out that cooking, cleaning, and taking care of children is mind numbingly boring and it's harder for me take on such menial tasks than I thought it would be. I'm motivated to work when the work is intellectually stimulating only. Having an education and career doesn't mean not lazy, and no education and no career doesn't necessarily mean lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:22 AM
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Anything any reasonable feminist would want is already here. Where is "here"? The U.S. is one of only two countries in the world without maternity leave, which is definitely a major feminist issue for me. Putting mothers back to work so soon after giving birth is just inhumane, I wouldn't do that to a dog. You just had puppies? Go herd sheep!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:18 AM
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Ohh, good one. Has children from another woman. Yeah I don't get why people do that unless they're a single parent themselves, then you get what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:13 AM
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Being pro-life. I would want to terminate in case of unwanted pregnancy, so I'd never consider having sex with someone pro-life, it'd get too messy. Weirdly though it never came up, I guess I always lived in relatively liberal areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:09 AM
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Definitely my husband. Married 7, together 9. I'm pretty antisocial so, uh, I don't really have friends. Had some in uni but as we've moved a lot since then forming close friendships haven't happened much - plus it's hard to make friends after you have kids, I mostly have "mom friends" whose kids are friends with mine moreso than I actually enjoy hanging out with them in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 04:15 PM
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​Being asexual is what you desire, people might have had sex initially for a while then realized they were asexual. I'm not sure how you can't see the connection. Don't desire sex -> happy not having sex. It's a bit like the person saying "can men be happy going a majority of their younger years without having sex with a woman" and I point out that yes, gay men are perfectly happy going a majority of their younger years without having sex with a woman. It's... in the definition. No, most homosex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 08:03 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 07:15 AM
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but you are not guaranteed you will have your husband not leave you just because you're married Of course not. The point is, it demonstrates where his head is at. If a guy is thinking leaving is a real possibility, he's unlikely to commit to marriage. If he's willing to commit to marriage, it's less likely he's thinking he'd be likely to leave. It's not about forcing a guy to stay because the cost is too high, it's more about predicting how likely he is to leave based on his own internal decisio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:34 PM
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It's a honest signal of commitment. The fact that it's potentially costly to the guy is the whole point. I would not have kids with a guy unless he was willing to marry me. Having kids is a huge commitment and basically eliminates the possibility of me having a relationship with anyone else of high quality (your SMV goes to practically 0 if you're a single mom.) I want some guarantee I'm not going to be a single mom, and a guy doing something that indicates he's not contemplating high tailing it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:08 PM
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Yeah it's a fetish :P
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 09:16 AM
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Meanwhile, my husband forbids me to masturbate and gets upset with me when I do. -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:21 AM
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This is completely silly logic. For one, I'm a woman and I completely lose interest in sex after I've had an orgasm. Secondly, if this effect is real (and I do think that many women are like your girlfriend) there are probably adaptive reasons why women don't need to have a refractory period as much, which is to say for conception purposes. After orgasm, a guy doesn't need to continue having sex to conceive, whereas women are more likely to conceive if they orgasm before sex or after; the timing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:10 AM
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I literally got quoted yesterday as saying women don't like sex the other day because I said that women don't get anything from being cum in. What I meant was that sex with a guy who's wrapped it, or gets me off but doesn't get off himself, is preferable to semen inside. Not that women don't like sex. Yet this got grossly misinterpreted. I have to say I've seen it more here than anywhere else for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:03 AM
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If that's the case, then I think we have a serious problems where incels think they're betas, and are taking exactly the wrong advice. "Beta" is not synonymous with "low quality male." There are lots of ways to be a low quality male, and being an inconsiderate dick is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:42 PM
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Total tangent, but I've found that the best guys in bed were ones who had had a previous girlfriend who was saving it for marriage for religious reasons. They were hella good at foreplay/fingering (sample size two, but still!)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:39 PM
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If a guy truly believes 100% that he is "The Prize", he will start behaving that way without any conscious effort. Again people will pick up on this. The problem is you have to back that up with substance. Men who believe they're a prize but objectively speaking are losers will fail hard with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:37 PM
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you stop being nice and considerate toward her and go have sex with someone else. So you think cheating is an appropriate response to relationship difficulties?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:33 PM
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It's actually about equal. But, in the gender wars, men only care about women cheating, and women only care about men cheating, so that skews the narrative. Cheating isn't a reason either sex is evil, it's done at equal rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:13 PM
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I'm 5'3" and my husband is 5'7" I think? I've never measured him so I'm not positive. Somewhere around there. I've slept with/dated guys over 6' but the sex was never any good. I'm not sure it was bad because they were tall but too tall is a bit awkward when you're short. I've never dated anyone shorter than me but there aren't a lot of guys that are. Anyway; no, I don't particularly like tall guys. But I guess it would be weird to date someone shorter than me or the same height.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:51 AM
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Lol. I said women don't get anything out of having him cum in them. Not that they don't enjoy sex. Personally, I've had sex with 50 people and love sex. I just want them to wrap it up, and if they don't cum, as long as I do I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 10:50 AM
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I have a problem with this framing of the argument because it frames it as unfair for men. The problem is that biology makes things unfair, for the woman. Women do not get anything out of having a man cum in them. Men are incentivised to do this because it feels good. If you eliminate all consequences with cumming in women willy nilly, then it's women who bear 100% of the financial costs of abortion, adoption, or parenting, not to mention the physical and psychological costs. Basically, it's a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 09:26 AM
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in this day and age Dude, no, it was way higher historically because of women were way more motivated not to be single mums because of poverty / immense stigma of out of wedlock babies. And there were no DNA tests so you could get away with it. Oh, and divorce was illegal. There's never been a time safer to get married and have kids and be assured they're yours. Nigeria is different because it's a third world country so it's basically like "the old days" there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:10 AM
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I've have told my mother to fuck off, because she's ... well... extremely difficult. I lose my temper. If a complete stranger behaved that badly towards me I'd say see ya later, never contact me again. She's visiting in for THREE WEEKS next month, didn't even ask me before buying the tickets. I'm dreading it. I can only remain polite for about a week and then I just can't take it anymore. I guarantee you I will be cussing her out by week 2, happens every time. Trust me, I wish I had more self co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:04 PM
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I've never been. Am I a unicorn????
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:01 PM
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I was a unicorn. Then I got bluepilled. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 10:06 AM
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trips to Ikea The horror
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 10:05 AM
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Not necessarily. In my experience really attractive men tend to be bad in bed because they're hot so they don't have to put in any effort to get laid. They end up having a string of one night stands where the woman goes "well he was hot, but the sex was awful, see ya later and never again" and the guy doesn't care because he can just pick up the next sucker. Men and women are different; for a man a woman being hot is sufficient for the sex to be good, but for women the man being hot is not suffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:11 AM
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Women don't get validation from sex, or if they do, it's very marginal. Why? Because it's so easy to get sex! Men get validation from sex, not women, because it's more challenging to get. The easier it is to get something, the less validation you get from it. That's obvious, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:11 AM
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The problem is that NEETs are typically NEETs because they lack social skills - the same skills that provide the benefits you get out of a relationship. Being in a relationship with an asshole is worse than being in a relationship with no-one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:06 AM
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It's not about wanting, really. It's just that if you don't know someone well, you'll be the most polite, and if you're friends with someone, you can be more casual. At the other end of that extreme is you can tell your parents to fuck off and they'll still love you anyway. It's that we're under constant pressure to behave well, and the more involved with someone you are, the more relaxed you can be about your behaviour, because you know they aren't going to reject you over minor social infracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:08 PM
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Pre-child shape is kind of a myth. I was lucky and lost the weight from my first pregnancy really easily. But even if you lose the weight, your body is typically permanently damaged and it never quite looks the same. There are some women who are lucky and carry small and it doesn't affect them quite as much, but I went from 105 to 155 with both my pregnancies and just some things are unfixable! I have a lot of loose, stretch-marked flappy skin and a C-section shelf. Even though I lost the weight…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:37 AM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:19 AM
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Knowing I am in this forever makes me want to make sure it stays satisfying and on a positive spiral. It can also have the opposite effect. The more like you feel like someone won't leave you, the more you can behave badly towards them (and they towards you.) If marriage makes people feel more secure, the less incentive they have to behave well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 10:54 AM
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Just because it's a cliche doesn't mean it's down to marriage itself. I'd argue that's mostly about having children, particularly the weight gain. Pregnancy and breastfeeding hormones also suppress female libido, so that affects the blow job frequency as well. Marriage and children are correlated, so people often misattribute effects of one to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 10:51 AM
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I can't tell you statistics, but anecdotally speaking the one time it happened to me it was not an accident, although the guy who did it try to pass it off like one. This guy sitting next to me on the bus pretended to be asleep and gradually crept his hand closer and closer to my boob. It was very deliberate. When he touched it I whacked his hand away with a water bottle and he mumbled a "sorry" but still pretended to be asleep. If he'd actually been asleep and I smashed his hand with a water bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 08:21 AM
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its*
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 03:50 PM
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Yeah that's what mine makes and it's just about barely enough to support a SAHM and two kids. I mean, it's comfortable, kids are expensive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 03:49 PM
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Interestingly enough I only hear dudes talking about this. Is this because one orgasm is enough for guys to be down and out, and clear the sexual fog out of their head? Whereas women don't really reach their orgasm limits as often as men? i.e the orgasm gap? Personally, I have a refractory period like most men do. I don't have this "multiple orgasm" feature that some women seem to. I don't have an particular clarity, but if I was distracted by sexual thoughts prior to orgasm, then those are cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 07:52 AM
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Pregnancy that early barely affects her at all. It doesn't do permanent lasting damage, but personally I found the first trimester of all my pregnancies the most difficult due to debilitating morning sickness. Third trimester was a breeze. That said, it's the third trimester and birth that really cause permanent damage to your body that you'll never recover from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:19 AM
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Isn't it an RP thing to say "never take care of another man's kids"? He sounds like a good person and unfortunately it didn't serve him well, but I stand by the fact that the abortion itself served him well. Otherwise he would never have realised she was using him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 10:58 PM
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There are lots, but here's one study: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2011.569637 women's sexual desire was significantly and negatively predicted by relationship duration after controlling for age, relationship satisfaction, and sexual satisfaction. Men's sexual desire, however, was not significantly affected by the duration of their romantic relationships. And popular press which covers a few: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/women-get-bored-sex-long-term-…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 10:56 PM
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Yeah but 7 years is better than 14 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:16 PM
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Women want it, so they're against it, lol. Knee jerk reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:11 PM
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Later abortions happen either because the woman didn't know she was pregnant or because there were complications with a pregnancy she had previously planned to keep. Or because pro-lifers in her state have passed a waiting period law. Or because pro-lifers in her state have passed restrictions which have closed down abortion clinics and now all the appointments are further out due to increase demand on the remaining clinics. Or because pro-lifers have blocked medicaid from covering abortion, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:08 PM
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The closer to conception it is, the more broad the support for the decision. Except that pro-lifers have increased the average age that foetuses are aborted, by passing waiting period laws and making clinics more scarce. I wonder if they ever suffer from any moral angst over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:05 PM
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Ok. So a woman gets accidentally pregnant. Keep in mind there are two people likely responsible for this, by the way. She chooses abortion. She has to pay for the abortion, and she has to go through pregancy and abortion which is physically unpleasant. What are the consequences for the man? NOTHING. She choose adoption. She has go through pregnancy, childbirth, and then she has to give her child away, and she has to take time off of work or school to recover, and she has her body permanently dam…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:02 PM
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It doesn't sound gut-wrenching to me. Sounds like he dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 06:52 PM
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or allowed one to occur. You can't force women to not get an abortion, so it's definitely a possibility. That said, I personally don't have sex with pro-life men to avoid getting in an unpleasant situation like that, I imagine pro-life men might have a similar policy about pro-choice women? I'm sure it's assortative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 06:48 PM
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It would make more sense for humans to be that way initially when there were not very many humans around. As the population grew, human males could then be less committal and leave soon after because human life became more communal, and raising the children did not have to be done by the bio-father. For much of human history, we lived in hunter-gatherer groups of around 50 or fewer (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number). The overall population size is fairly irrelevant as bigger …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 12:18 AM
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This sounds a bit "I'm 15 and this is deep" to me. There's research that shows that female libido drops with relationship duration. I don't think there's any evidence you can stave this off by remaining more "mysterious," it just happens regardless. No matter how closed off you are emotionally, you'll still become familiar and less exciting over time. So I don't think it's worth torturing yourself by pretending to seem more mysterious, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:57 PM
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We get that now, that wasn't obvious until recently. A lot of people confused "not willing to let existing child die" with "actually liking and wanting children." Some still do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 10:15 AM
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Humans are a rare animal that evolved bi-parental care and pair-bonding. It's particularly rare among mammals, it's a bit more common in birds. Is there a bit of this dichotomy, yes, but the prevalence in humans is much lower than it is in most other animals. Short-term mating in humans was historically not a very successful strategy, because human babies are so much work and are so vulnerable, that the majority strategy for men is long-term mating. If it weren't adaptive it wouldn't be so commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:45 AM
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Beyond socialisation and something being innate is the effect of the environment to change the pressures that shape behaviour. In the past we believed that women loved having children, but the availability of birth control and abortion have caused birth rates to plummet precipitously, below replacement rates in countries where it's easily available. It turns out that most women, if they want kids at all, pretty never want to have 14. The maternal instinct isn't as strong as we thought it was. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:35 AM
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Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak built the apple computer out of their parents garage. They did not need these suppports you speak of, hence they are desires. Uh, they were both single men without children. They're also total and complete outliers. You think your average single mom can be Steve Jobs? Are you nuts? I actually have two kids and I work for home. I'm a computer programmer. I'm living the dream. And I'm tell you it is basically impossible to work without childcare. When I had my first ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:10 AM
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In the absence of state sponsored childcare, it's not possible to work. Women in Nordic countries work, but in the US there's no maternity leave and no state sponsored childcare, for the most part. Most low wage jobs pay less or equal to the cost of childcare. There's a reason humans evolved biparental care, the raising of children in the absence of a strong welfare state just isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 08:22 AM
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Yeah, it's the French that don't think cheating is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 08:34 PM
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There are some cases where the woman decided to have the kid on their own, but that represents the minority of cases. Often women and men decide to have the kid together. I think the cases where the woman wants the kid but the man doesn't, or the man wants the kids but the woman doesn't, represents a minority situation. Even if the man doesn't want the kid, sometimes it happens because he simply does not care. Then the woman has to pay a lot of money and take off work and suffer physically at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:14 AM
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Pretty sure society doesn't benefit. Your children not starving to death is a very strong incentive for theft and other crime, and there is diminishing returns for punishment because of that. There's a reason crime rates fell dramatically when welfare states were established in various Western countries, and was high before that even considering strong penalties like chopping off hands. To reduce crime, you need to reduce the incentive for it; it's much more economically efficient than punishmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:04 AM
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I'm pretty sure Sheryl Sandberg isn't being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:59 PM
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Sheryl Sandberg is a CEO, she's not "mentally ill." You can debate her ideas without name-calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:54 PM
4

Those old tropes aren't from women who are lower class, those are also middle class women. The lower class women were washerwomen and farmers. Not nurses and secretaries. The reason those nurses and secretaries weren't in higher powered careers than that was because they were women, not because they were lower class. You're confusing class with job prestige here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:24 AM
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I think you're misinterpreting what I'm trying to say here. I'm not saying you shouldn't have standards for relationships. Or claiming it's the onus on the one getting fucked over. Or that you shouldn't expect to be treated correctly. I'm merely saying the original person saying "cheating is betrayal and disrespect that indicates you dont love that person romantically" is incorrect. You can love a person romantically and still cheat on them, just like you can love a person romantically and still…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 01:10 PM
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There are things which can both be true and are also not helpful to tell the recipient of a behaviour. If a woman came crying to me because she's being abused would I say, "oh, he's just engaging in mate guarding behaviour, that means he really loves you!" No. Lol. But it's true that love and jealousy are often intermingled though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12496732 We're having a theoretical discussion here, not advising crying guys who have been cheated on, as least as far as I can t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:49 PM
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That's a no true scotsman argument. Love is a feeling. You can't redefine it based on whether cheating happens or not, particularly since cheating is often circumstantial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 04:14 PM
1

Long term mating (a small number of kids with a high degree of parental investment) requires men to pick women who are financially and emotionally stable. A woman who will abandon you, abuse the kids, spend all the money, make your life a living hell, etc isn't good wife or mother material. So a woman's career and education doesn't matter for short term mating, it does matter for long term mating. I agree, but I still think the money thing is less important. But being smart / stable enough to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:27 AM
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Yes, we all know that, lol. You think women don't know that? Why do you think women throw down massive amount of money on beauty crap?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:22 AM
3

Reality: While job, career is something u need to do for ur survival, please note that it is not something that attracts a man, a man 99 times out of 100 will choose the young clerk who is short/petite, young and who is a virgin Maybe, but then the problem is that men are not choosing to marry virgins. No guy is going to sit around and wait to marry you before having sex with you unless he is very religious. Men want to sample the milk before buying the cow, no one is going to invest in a cow si…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:19 AM
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For most of my late teens/early twenties there were a lot of guys I slept with who wanted to commit and I was annoyed by that. For both men AND women, you can BOTH enjoy sex AND want commitment - they're not mutually exclusive, and in fact are synergystic. There definitely may be sex differences about how much each wants of either, but it definitely depends on the parties involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 11:46 AM
3

But on the other hand that really opens the door for cheating. Look at military wives. If my husband was gone for 6 months at a time I might start having a wandering eye too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 11:28 AM
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The morning after pill is basically 4 birth control pills. IT DOES NOT WORK IF YOU HAVE ALREADY OVULATED. It only works if you were close to ovulating, but haven't ovulated, and obviously it only works if you know that your birth control has failed. A substantial number of pregnancies are because your birth control method failed without you knowing about it - you only know about it once you're already pregnant. It's not a 100% certain option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 06:55 AM
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Right, but was your mother pro-life or pro-choice? My mom is pro-choice so when I got pregnant as a teen I had an abortion. My cousin's mom is pro-life and when she got pregnant as a teen she raised her daughter as a single mom. Of the two of us, she's definitely the nicer/ better person than me, but she got lots of shit from judgemental people just because her mom brainwashed her into thinking abortion was immoral, and I was brainwashed into thinking it was no biggie. Seems unfair to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 06:52 AM
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Some probably were, but some probably weren't. I know my fair share of single moms, a lot of the deadbeats stuck around to father a second child and THEN took off. My cousin isn't exactly a deadbeat (he pays the child support) but he had two kids with his ex before deciding he didn't really enjoy being a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 06:48 AM
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Isn't he the gold digger here, because he managed to get 200k from her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:19 PM
1

Lol. You realise Lysistrata is a fictional comedy written by a man and didn't actually happen, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:08 AM
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I agree. Most guys can have a one night stand here and there. Actually getting a girl to commit to you is a lot harder. Getting regular casual sex is hard, but getting it occasionally is easier than getting a girl willing to have sex with you exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 12:25 PM
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I always keep my eyes closed during sex. I don't know want to see anyone's face. It's usually too close to focus anyways so I just go cross eyed? So I have no idea what my husband's O face looks like and I'm happier that way! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 10:02 AM
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Any disability makes it hard to be seen as desirable, of course. What you lack in social skills you have to compensate for somehow; whether that's physical attractiveness, as you said being really good at something, having a good job, etc. It doesn't mean give up entirely. There are a lot of people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 09:58 AM
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That's really blunt, kind of the way autistic people communicate ;0.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 09:52 AM
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I'm an atheist, and it's true, some people get away with stuff. Karma is only real in so far as some people are better at getting away with doing immoral stuff, but most people will get caught at it, even if they're pretty good at it. The guys that get away with lying have silver tongues. Most people are bad liars and will get caught. Anyway this is a long, long discussion which has been addressed by a lot smarter people than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:44 PM
3

Or possibly having been locked up in a castle her whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 05:41 PM
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Right, my point is, it wasn't the mother's choice to be single. That's the point. Being a mom is a choice. Being single it not always a choice. If a guy leaves his kid, that's the guy's choice, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 10:27 AM
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...are you serious? Erm... yes? You seem to be taking this rather personally. Have a good day. I'm really not, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:54 AM
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They picked a guy, got knocked up, decided to keep it - some at the urging of the father - then ended up alone. So in that case, isn't it more of the father's choice that's the problem? To leave? Of the two people here, which is the person who is more culpable? Its always her choice. You can't make the whole 'her body, her choice' argument and then turn around and argue that she's somehow the victim. Even in places where abortion is practically very difficult its not like adoption isnt a thing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:16 AM
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That seems really cruel. What's she supposed to do now? Post birth abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:12 AM
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Single mothers are a bit of a red herring considering the number and obvious magnitude of choices they were making What choices? In my experience single mothers tend to be lower class women who were brainwashed into thinking that abortion was immoral. I don't think it's really their fault. My cousin and I both got pregnant as teens, but I was raised by a pro-choice mother and had an abortion. I got married and had two kids later in life. Meanwhile my cousin raised her daughter alone because her …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:00 AM
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I think you've adequately demonstrated why some people discount people with problems. Sometimes people with problems are actively making themselves seem repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 08:53 AM
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Ha, well actually I'm happily married to my husband and we did have a threesome (before we got married.) I'm just not the jealous type, or at least I wasn't at all jealous when we did it! But I think the important part is that I'm bi, so I was as interested in the girl as he was. I don't think it necessarily works if the girls are straight. Generally speaking I don't like threesomes much though because it just introduces too many elbows.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 08:10 AM
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Less libido doesn't mean less attracted to their partner. Not always, but in this case they're synonymous because their libido rebounds when they obtain a new partner. It's partner-induced low libido, which suggests less attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:50 AM
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The point is to get a new girl Erm then why not fuck them separately? If the girl only willing to have a threesome because she'd be jealous if you did it without her, then OF COURSE she'd still be jealous in the threesome. 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:44 AM
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Why do people conflate "settling down" with boring sex? Let's blame Freud! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:43 AM
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Uh wat? I knew I was into kink from like... 14. This was pre-internet days so I didn't even know it existed until I went looking for it. Didn't lose my virginity until 17. It's an intrinsic part of my sexuality. I suppose there are some people that do it because of this but I'd say a vast majority talk about getting into it before even knowing it existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:39 AM
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If she had wanted she could have done nothing at all and still end up with top grades, they literally offered her to do all her shit. That's not life on e-z mode, that's just dumb. Here's a tip; the function of homework is to teach you stuff. If you are getting people to do your homework for you you will fail your exams. My first year of university, we had online quizzes. I figured out how to hack them, got 100% on all the quizzes... and did so poorly on my exams I ended up with D+. When I wised…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 09:00 AM
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You might get some sympathy from other women but Idk what it is about about young men that sends them into some kind of avoidance/quasi-panic mode. I'm a cis woman and other women crying does this to me. I can't really explain it, it's just a natural aversion. I personally have a "male" like approach to emotions. I don't have a lot of friends to emotionally dump on, and that's because the amount of effort it takes to maintain friendship I find exhausting. I don't find therapy helpful for the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 08:28 AM
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I read this as "anti-vaxxer organic food essential oils" type stuff which unfortunately does seem to be a female disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 08:22 AM
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On a side note, I also hear these same guys complain that most teachers are female. They don't actually care about that, it's just whataboutism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 08:25 AM
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It can help you get over the nervousness/anxiety from never having had sex before. This can be a big hurdle to get over. RP teaches you to act and be confident in order to get laid, but faking confidence is really very difficult and hard to learn, sometimes it's easier to just become more confident from having had experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 08:14 AM
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You claim that women that being a housewife is better than being a work slave. I point out in my case it was not. You claim that this means I was too dumb to realise that being a work slave is superior to being a housewife, despite you yourself previously making the claim that being a housewife was better than being a work slave. Either it was reasonable for me to assume that being a stay at home might be easier than working, the claim you made originally, or it was dumb of me, and you are also …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:47 PM
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I'm pointing out you contradict yourself from one statement to the next, merely reacting to what I say rather than making a coherent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:33 PM
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That seems a convincing argument to temper the messaging that being a SAHM is easier than working and that women prefer it, so that women aren't misled to believe it all comes up roses before having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 12:03 PM
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Women are just now learning that they don't want to be work slaves in the work world. Once the get in it, they realize being a housewife wasn't such a bad deal. Maybe for some of them. In my case, the opposite happened. We had planned for me to be a SAHM. I got blue pilled when I had my first baby, and I was like "holy fuck this is a lot harder than I thought it was going to be." It turns out that personally working at my job is a lot more fun for me than raising kids and keeping a house which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 11:47 AM
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Right, but now that we've decoupled sex and babies, of course women no longer require the commitment. They want the commitment because of the babies, not because they inherently want commitment. If it were really about the commitment for sex, then the dynamic would be the same, but it's not, because it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 11:40 AM
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No, women were trading sex for commitment towards a baby. Now that we've decoupled sex and babies, women no longer require the commitment for the sex. All this means is now people want commitment before agreeing to have a baby, at least in the upper middle classes. It's just shifted now that these are decoupled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 11:37 AM
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I got the implication, my point is that it's not just a thing that kids do; by virtue of the fact that schools inherently create this kind of dynamic, it's associated with it, but not limited to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:48 PM
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It's elementary school, it's small towns, it's the workplace, it's your neighbourhood HOA or PTA, it's anywhere there's a relatively small group of people that interact on a regular basis and a social hierarchy develops. Thankfully we live in a society now where you aren't forced to live and interact in such hierarchies as much as we used to. It used to be essential for survival. Now it's less of the case. You can also move house/jobs and try integrating into a new hierarchy much more easily too…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:05 PM
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Only if you want to constantly be compared to a dead person who's been lionised in your spouse's memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:09 AM
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I disagree. Willingness to commit increases with age. Having had short relationships earlier in life doesn't mean it isn't possible or even probable later. I had relationships but never had fallen in love until I hit my mid 20s, then all of a sudden I fell in love multiple times. It was like a switch had been flipped in my brain. The same thing happened with the desire to have kids (which people have colloquially termed "baby rabies") - it came on suddenly, and later in life. I think a lot of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:34 AM
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Uh what? No. Previously divorced raises huge red flags with me. Single at 35 is definitely way better. Maybe at 50 or something that'd be preferable, but not at 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:25 AM
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It doesn't even make sense to use "Chad" in this context. The idea of the Chad is he's some sort of universal sex god that all women like. Of course in reality there a smattering of men that really pull and they tend to be celebrities of some kind. Nowhere near 20% of all men. And even then not all women are into them. Trump bragged about pulling and there's a certain type of woman that'd go for him for sure, but it's probably less than 1% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 11:16 AM
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I feel like this is more true for men than for women though. I have exes that were hung up on me for a long time. But I was never hung up on any exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 11:12 AM
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For lesbians, yes. For heterosexual woman, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:40 AM
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No, it isn't a medical issue. A pregnancy isn't a disease. Pregnancy isn't a disease, but it is a medical issue. Not all medical issues are diseases; menopause and a broken bone aren't diseases either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:36 AM
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I've tried literally every birth control and they all had side effects. The one that I liked best was vasectomy. Then withdrawal, but you really have to trust the guy for that (only did it when I was married). I'm currently on the copper IUD and it's mostly okay, but uterus pretty much always hurts a little. And holy fuck they were NOT lying when they said "increased menstrual flow". I had to buy super extra plus absorbent tampons which I've never bought before in my life. They're massive!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:13 AM
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Only if the woman is pro-choice and raised in a pro-choice family. The parents that are cautioning their daughters to be "care who they spread their legs with" are mostly pro-life families. The closest my mom came to saying something like that is to "wait until college, that's what I did." I know you're like "oh well it's a person's choice to be pro-choice" but not really, we've all been brain-washed by our parents. My first cousin was raised pro-life and when she got pregnant at 16 she had the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:06 AM
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I believe they call this "demisexual." This does exist, but they can be hard to distinguish from women that simply have a low libido, or a high libido, or women who are socially conditioned to appear to be a good girl. Personally I've never met a woman who says she's only sexually attracted to her husband and no one else. I have a friend from college who met her husband in high school and stayed with him all through college and grad school, married him, and they now have two kids. She's your ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:55 AM
1

Then why are all the lesbians fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:37 AM
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I've never had an STI and I've slept with more than my fair share of women. This is because I don't have one night stands, I don't need them because of ethical plating. Having concurrent sexual partners is actually much more risky than one night stands, STI risk wise. https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/178/2/249/123527 Also you could very well have contracted STIs you aren't aware of, because many of them are aymptomic and/or aren't tested for in a standard panel. You've almost certainly contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:22 PM
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Then it was longer than that, because you can't have sex for at least 6 weeks after childbirth as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:37 PM
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I'm 33 (so not the requested group) but I have a friend (35?) with an older girlfriend (40+) who is going through menopause and he's complained of its effects. They're not married though, they're in an open relationship. Which, I should point out, it still possible even if you are married. I think it's probably expected that in older couples, there are issues caused by menopause. There are physiological reasons peri and post menopausal women would be uninterested in sex. Unlike men, women's abil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:32 PM
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I know my wife's friend Chelsea didn't have sex with her husband for 9 months after she got pregnant. So.... the whole pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:27 PM
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The idea that men can easily defend themselves or attack women is nonsense in our age. I can tell you've never tested this. Even women who train (rowers) have worse upper body strength than untrained men. Your average man will easily be able to overpower your average women. In the few times I've gotten into an altercation with a guy not much larger than myself he's easily overpowered me and it was terrifying. In theory you can carry mace or whatever, but a guy can close the distance without you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 10:43 AM
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For a first encounter, I think it makes sense. You're strangers at that point, right? So you want to be extra sure. Once you're married, like you and I, and you know the person a little better, then you can decide on what level of consent is necessary in your relationship together. With your wife, apparently no means yes, and in my relationship, meh means yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:53 AM
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The U.S. implemented several controls on welfare in the last 80s/90s. It did not reduce the rate of single motherhood, which continued to rise, but it did increase the rate at which single mothers were employed: https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/116/3/1063/1899757 https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/003465303765299891
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:55 PM
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The U.S. has already done this, though. https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/116/3/1063/1899757 It didn't reduce single motherhood, but it did increase employment of single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:54 PM
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Money will also be a factor when deciding to leave a partner. I have no problem with any of those. So you have no problem with someone deciding to stay with an abuser because the alternative is starving to death? https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/financial-abuse/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:50 PM
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Agreed. I'm a hardcore masochist, but I never say "no" or "stop", even when I have a safe word in place. The one time a guy ignored my "no" and "stop" it was genuinely terrifying and not sexy in the least. I think the closest I've come to saying no is saying, "I don't really feel like having sex" and my husband knows that's not a hard no, it just means I don't feel like it, but if he really wants to it's fine, but don't wait for me to cum / expect me to be enthusiastic because it's probably not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:26 AM
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:D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:54 AM
2

Interesting. I engaged in a bit of prostitution in my younger days, and my husband hired one or two when he was younger, and now we're parents together. Certainly I wouldn't want to do it now that I have kids, but the fact of it existing in the world isn't an anathema to family necessarily. There are plenty of men and women that aren't having kids for entirely different reasons than sexual hedonism. I wouldn't pin it on that entirely. Parenting is a lot of work so of course hedonism is more attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:53 AM
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Actually, you can: http://www.hse.gov.uk/laundries/index.htm Ill-health The main causes of ill health are: Blood borne viruses - Laundry treatments at high and low temperatures At any rate, the problems you mention are problems with sex in general, not prostitution in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:36 AM
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It's legal in the UK, solicitation and running a brothel are not though. But I agree with the overall point, for instance the UK has made certain types of porn illegal and are implementing age verification in July, and is less religious overall than the U.S. (although technically speaking it is a Christian country, unlike the U.S. which theoretically has separation of church and state.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:32 AM
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Presumably that's because there's a social belief that men are naturally hedonistic and need to be encouraged to be more responsible, and women are naturally responsible and need to be encouraged to be less responsible, so that they both end up equally hedonistic and responsible. Whether that's true or not is left up to the reader.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 06:35 AM
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It's apparently easier than grammar is for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:37 PM
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Literally got a "you think like a guy" comment on this subreddit, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:36 PM
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In some countries it's still legal to beat your wife, and marital rape is legal, and forced/ child marriage is still a thing. The similarities are definitely there, even if they're no longer current in Western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:32 PM
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That seems incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:28 PM
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Yeah that's not a super bad ratio. A pregnant woman is a super bad ratio. And probably why that preference exists, because it's a sign a woman isn't already pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:08 AM
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I think height is more relative than absolute. It's more that girls want a guy taller than them, not necessarily the tallest guy possible. That's not really comparable to other traits. No guy is like "she just has to have bigger tits than me."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 07:09 AM
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True, but the post didn't mention those. The most universal one is a higher hip to waist ratio. Breasts and slimness are more cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 07:07 AM
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No. My n count is 50, that'd be pretty hypocritical. I did marry a low n-count guy though. Most of the guys I liked tended to be fairly low n count because I like geeks and nerds (being on myself, I don't know how to interact with "normal" guys) and they tend to have low n. I do know one geeky guy with a really high n counts though and I didn't count him out (but we just didn't have chemistry).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:49 AM
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I don't catch feels easily, but a lot of the guys I hooked up with did. I've had friendships with guys end because they got a crush on me and I wasn't interested in them. I certainly wasn't going to have sex with them because that'd lead them on even more. I was never worried about me having feelings for them, I was worried about them having feelings for me that I knew I'd never reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:55 PM
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Children don't get born because a woman gets married. They do in my house. I'd abort any children conceived out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:55 PM
4

Isn't morbidly obese "sickness" though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:52 PM
1

So you think I'm a selfless lover then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 05:39 PM
1

I've had sex with 50 people. That's definitely an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 05:23 PM
1

https://qz.com/1328742/think-everyone-died-young-in-ancient-societies-think-again/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:02 PM
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You remember it if the sex was really good or really bad, just like any other experience. Personally I remember some experiences although I'd say 99% of the sex I've had I don't remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 09:49 AM
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Well, before I got married, I just talked about sex a lot. Now that I'm married, I try not to talk about sex a lot, hard habit to break!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:37 AM
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I have a friend who is a nurse, she's married to a doctor. He got a necrotic wound on his leg, refused to see a doctor about it even though she said "honey, that's necrotic, you need to get it treated." He went into sepsis, she said "honey, are you sure it's not sepsis" and he's like "nah I just have the flu." Then she gets a call saying "honey I need you to take me to the hospital." His leg had blown up to like 10x its size. He was in the hospital for 3 months and barely survived. Spent a year …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:45 AM
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Marriage was invented when humans died much earlier than they do today. That's mostly myth. The average lifespan was lower in the past because of really high 0-5 mortality (child mortality) which brings the average way down. People who made it to adulthood would often live into their 70s just like today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:40 AM
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If you define alpha and beta that way, but IMO you're defining alpha and beta completely wrong. At least in other animals, the alpha is the male that has the highest social status in the group. If you look at men in high status positions, they're always married, at least in our society. Historically they might have multiple wives and concubines, nowadays there may be mistresses but for social reasons they have to keep that under wraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:34 AM
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They do if you want your kids to grow up in a stable two parent home. Or at least, makes it a lot more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:31 AM
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I'm a sexually rapacious woman and I don't have kids outside of wedlock. It's not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:30 AM
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It's not a zero sum game. Also it's a weird comparison because infant circumcision isn't voluntary, shaving is, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:51 AM
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It's easier to see what's going on without hair. Porn is all about having something sexy to look it. A commonplace in porn is if it feels good, it looks terrible, and if it feels terrible, it looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:50 AM
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The ultimate sign of fertility is having already successfully born a child. Maybe, but she's born another child with another man, which she's probably already taking care of and might want you to help with, and also might already pregnant. That's critical. It's not that she's overall capable of having kids, but that she's having kids with you. Yes, a woman with a flat belly might be infertile, but if you don't get her pregnant what have you lost? If it doesn't work you can leave. Meanwhile if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:47 AM
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I think the problem is that everyone is the hero/ine of their own story. It's very hard to admit, psychologically speaking, that you're the problem. It's much easier to blame other people. The problem is that once you start blaming an entire gender, you've basically lost the game, psychologically speaking, because it's so much easier to blame a faceless monolith than to blame yourself. Are their social ills? Definitely. But spending too much time focusing on that instead of what you can do to pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:24 PM
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Pretty much all of university classmates selected this way, but are all pretty much bluepill. eugenic IQ raising effect reversing current trend Or rising autism rates. All of my uni classmates that married smart men have children with developmental delays / ASD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:38 AM
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If you want fewer single moms, encourage abortion in the lower social classes / among teens. All the single moms I know were against abortion for themselves and it's correlated with class. All the upper middle class teens I know that got pregnant had an abortion, and then later got married before having kids (including me).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:35 AM
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For quality: for my husband, I selected both intelligence and loyalty. So far so good. Initiation: I initiated a lot, which lead to my fairly outlier sexual partner count (50) before settling down and getting married because men went with it a lot (although I did get rejected a fair bit too!) Pay more: I used to do this, men would just insist on paying. Then I gave up. Date younger: Younger guys didn't start seeming attractive to me until we were all overall older and I was already married. Imma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:30 AM
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Yeah, a good 1/3 have no significant age gap. It's not a huge difference but the effects do cascade. My spouse is 5 years older than me and was a lot more advanced in his career when we met (I was in graduate school making 20k a year and he was an early stage researcher which was like 60k?). So when we first had kids it made sense financially to prioritise his career over mine, and two kids in my wages are really stagnating because of it. Whenever I talk about working full time (I work part-time…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 09:01 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships has a good summary. Less than 15% of couples have the woman older than the man; the overwhelming majority of couples have and older man and younger woman. It's pretty ironclad that gender based age disparities in relationships exist - whether these express true preferences is slightly more up in the air. But I'm personally convinced that there are some true preferences involved; whether that's more on the woman's side for older,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:27 PM
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Part of that actually comes back to the original point of the post though. Women prefer men who are older than them, and make more money and have better jobs, whereas men prefer women that are younger than them and deprioritise how much money they earn. Collectively this means women are marrying men who on average have higher salaries. What this means is that when it comes down to deciding who will stay home with the kids more, men will on average have higher salaries (because being older, they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 03:04 PM
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I wonder how many divorcing couples will actually opt for that. Less than half. The majority of parents settle on custody themselves; only 3% of cases go to trial. In 51% of cases, both parents decide the mom will have sole physical custody, and those remaining cases are largely split custody, and in a small minority of cases dad has sole physical cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:57 PM
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Maybe not, but a university setting is a good place to meet men. That's why they used to joke and say "she went to college to get her M.R.S. degree."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:51 PM
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I'm not sure that's 100% true. I hooked up with lots of uggos, but when it came to settling down and having kids, attractiveness was more important to me because I didn't want to have ugly kids. That said, maybe it's still true on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:58 AM
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There's a replication crisis in psychology; this one used a lot larger sample size than the previous studies, so generally the consensus has been in the field that this invalidates the previous, much smaller studies, or at least calls it question. Facial masculinity was what the previous studies had looked at as well, so that's the reason they used it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 01:09 PM
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Ah, that must suck. I no longer get comments about my height but I do have a babyface. In grad school I had trouble with my students and my friend I was complaining about this to, who is over 6' and very imposing pointed out it was probably how I looked... it hadn't even occurred to me. And I do have people treating me with disrespect because I have kids! When my first was a baby the cashier at a dollar store said "you look too young too be married and have a baby". I said "I'm 27", she said "oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:55 AM
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\119. :/ I need to lose at least 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:46 AM
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It's odd that women have this insecurity when you consider there isn't any social penalty applied to them. I'm a woman and I literally got made fun of all through middle school and high school because I was short. My final height was 5'3".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:06 PM
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I'm 5'3" and I hate heels. Too uncomfortable. I wore them when I was younger due to the influence of culture but as I've gotten older I've lost all my fucks about it. The one exception was my wedding because I could NOT find comfortable but nice white flats at anywhere. I found one pair that gave me horrible blisters, so I ended up going with a more comfortable low heel. I should just just worn black flats, who cares if the shoe isn't white!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:04 PM
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Estrogen and progesterone both mimic pregnancy. During pregnancy women, on average, have a lower sex drive. On average, women are most interested in having sex whilst ovulating, proximately because of the hormonal environment which makes her more capable of being aroused and more interested in sex - and ultimately, because we evolved this way to make babies. If anything, she's less likely to cheat on you because she's overall less interested in sex. On the other hand, it is bad for relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:40 PM
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This particular statement would be laughed at in a serious academic setting. Evolutionary psychology is, however, a legitimate field. Unfortunately a lot of people who don't understand it well have poisoned the well, so to speak. Internet commentators... please stop helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:34 PM
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This was the hypothesis, but it's been debunked: https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/largest-study-to-date-finds-that-birth-control-does-not-change-what-type-of-men-women-are-attracted-to/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:33 PM
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I’m no scholar on the research associated with behavioral differences related to partners while a woman is on birth control but I actually thought there was some data showing women prefer less masculine men while on the pill. There was, but it's been debunked: https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/largest-study-to-date-finds-that-birth-control-does-not-change-what-type-of-men-women-are-attracted-to/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:32 PM
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She doesn't allow him. He sneaks to the 7-11 to buy sweets! She doesn't allow him. He sneaks to the 7-11 to buy sweets! Yeah there are a lot of pathetic men around and their wives treat them exactly as poorly as they allow. My husband doesn't let me eat lots of sweets. Am I pathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 08:56 AM
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No need to be a dick about it. Some might say that is also a sign of immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:21 PM
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Raising child and taking care of the house > war, work, hunting etc I disagree with this. Pregnancy, birth, and raising children is very painful, unpleasant, difficult work too. My pelvis is too narrow to give birth naturally and 200 years ago I would have died an agonising death at 18. In the modern environment, I had an abortion at 18, and a C-section at 26 after a 50 hour labour, and a failed VBAC and C-section at 30. In the developing world, it's still very difficult to be a woman. Even if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:10 AM
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Yup. This is universal. It's not just that, but people have trouble imagining what it's like to be in different position than what they're in or be different than what they are. People care most about what affects them personally or something they have had personal experience with. I didn't think about nor care much about the rights of wheelchair users until I had kids and was wheeling mine around in strollers; then I suddenly noticed how hard it was to go anywhere and I started being more cogni…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 10:58 AM
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I think that part of the difficulty in getting women to admit that they have an advantage when it comes to finding sex / romance is that they take it as being told the advantage exists in the current marketplace, but if they're the average woman, it's not easy to conceptualise this as an advantage. I definitely had/have an advantage, because I'm relatively thirsty for a woman. So I both wanted to have sex with lots of people, and there were plenty of men willing to have sex with me! (I have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 10:52 AM
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people didn't start to "pimping out kids" since high school, that's a caricaturization. I.... really hope people weren't pimping out kids. But no, it's not a characterisation, age of first time parents has risen appreciably and measurably. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db21.htm Hardly anyone idealizes adulthood lol Maybe they don't realise that's what they're idealising when they idealise how dating "used" to be, but the end result was that you took on more responsibilities earlier in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:24 PM
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Sounds like your typical "get off my lawn" post. It used to be people got married out of high school and started pumping out kids right away. Is that really what you want? Trust me, adulting is not as fun as it seems, enjoy your youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 11:17 AM
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serial monogamy If you look at the poly community though, it's at the very least evenly split gender wise, if not female dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:09 AM
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I don't need so many, but when I was single I'd just think, "why not? Could be fun!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:05 AM
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Most women must be absolutely disgusted by their husbands I said "some men" not "all men," lol. Historically though, yes, there were women that were absolutely disgusted by their husbands. Now we've moved as a society more towards love marriage and less towards "he raped you now you have to marry him" it happens a lot less! But yeah a woman surveying a room of men might be actively repulsed by a lot of the guys, some probably just neutral, and some might turn them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:04 AM
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Right, after oral they're turned on. My point is that if you're not turned on, it's unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:04 AM
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A woman who is frigid and isn't interested in sex is a lot less likely to cheat, sure. Having a healthy sex drive is certainly a prerequisite. But are all those men (like OP) that find other women attractive when they're in monogamous relationships are guaranteed to cheat? Bullshit. We aren't animals. Just because I find other people attractive doesn't mean I'll cheat, lol. By the way, he does know my tendencies. I was dating like ... 3 other people when we first started dating, and I filled out…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:35 PM
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They typically apply clitoral stimulation at the same time. I don't know anyone who just sticks it in and doesn't. It definitely adds something, but on its own it's not sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:34 PM
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I totally agree with that. But if you can be amicable, then I don't think "the spark is gone" is a great excuse for a divorce. Not saying that happens a lot, but I've heard people say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:00 PM
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Well you just said "masculine" women, which applies to lots of things, not just sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:25 AM
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He's doing okay, we have a lot of sex, and no, I haven't cheated on him. I just have a wandering eye. I can't help that other people look like tasty snacks. Also the conference has a Code of Conduct and I wouldn't want to violate that! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:23 AM
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I fixed my post after the fact, but I wanted to sleep with 1/3 of the conference, but instead I went home right after and didn't go to the open bar. We're actually monogamous, and I've never cheated on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:21 AM
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It's exactly the right thought experiment. A straight woman having sex with most men is often a similar experience to a straight man having sex with a gay men. Women aren't attracted to most men and having receptive sex when you aren't aroused is physically unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:16 AM
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There are physiological reasons why you might not. One, having sex as the receptive partner is not as innately enjoyable. The vagina has very little sensation to it, stimulation of it can be unpleasant or neutral, and stimulation of the uterus at the top is unpleasant. The clitoris, which is analogous to the penis, doesn't get stimulated by PIV sex that well / if at all, depending on penetration. The "G-spot" is controversial and some argue it doesn't exist; personally, there isn't much physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:03 AM
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Well, I'm pretty feminine and have had lots of sexual partners before I got married and had kids (50). But there are parts of me that are masculine, sure. I'm an analytical thinker and a computer programmer. But I'm also submissive, maternal, have two kids, love animals, and am in a traditional style marriage with my husband. I also look very feminine. I'm just really horny and not too into romance, so in that sense I'm masculine. But when I was pregnant or breastfeeding that killed my libido an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:53 AM
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I wouldn't say I want to fuck everything, but for instance I went to a work conference and thought to myself that I would fuck 1/3 of the conference, definitely. Then I skipped the after party, went home to my husband and said "you ever feel that way about conferences" and he looked at me like I had horns and said, "no, you're weird." He's naturally monogamous and I'm not, I have to work at it. That includes not drinking or going to afterparties at conferences!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:47 AM
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A lot of life involves hoping for the best. I have kids, and they're even more unpredictable than a spouse. You sort of have a sense of the person your spouse is. What you get when you have a kid is largely completely unpredictable and they're a much greater financial and time commitment than a spouse. It's a total gamble. But to quote a commonplace: no risk, no reward. I get that everyone has different amounts of risk aversion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:43 AM
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People change. Sometimes people become Nazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:21 PM
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Marriage isn't supposed to be about YOU; it's supposed to be about children. I agree. Irrelevant. What has suddenly happened with best interests of the child?!!! If you have children and you want to get divorced anyway something has seriously gone wrong, regardless if you can cite something as concrete as "adultery". Tons and tons of people are still staying together for the kids, that's definitely still a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:03 PM
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I think in some cases it's a problem of having your cake and eating it too. If a man wants his wife to be a housewife and stay at home mom, then yes, you have to contribute financially to that. The alternative is that you contribute to child-rearing and cleaning/maintaining the house equally and you both work, and then when you have a divorce you'll have both financially contributed roughly evenly financially. You don't get a room and board costs only nanny/house cleaner/prostitute for a decade …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:05 PM
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I'd be interested in reading if you'd like to post it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:57 PM
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For me, I use chemistry to describe what happens when we have sex; does hooking up with them make me wet? Or am I not turned on at all? It definitely depends someone on my own mental state (i.e. am I in my fertile window... if I'm not, no one will turn me on, for the most part.) but it definitely depends on the guy as well, and personally there's no pattern I can discern. It seems completely unrelated to whether I find someone visually attractive, although of course if we've gotten to this point…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 09:56 AM
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I once had amazing chemistry with a guy I initially though was unattractive; short, a bit chubby, very hairy. But he got me so, so, so wet. Around the same time I hooked up with this guy I thought was really very physically attractive, tall, good looking face and just... nothing. I wasn't aroused by him at all. They both had good personalities, were smart, both grad students at my uni. But I had chemistry with the former and not with the latter. I cannot explain it at all, it was entirely subcon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 09:51 AM
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More info for those interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_histocompatibility_complex_and_sexual_selection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 09:45 AM
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Good to know! But can't you bring your laptops? Anyway, this is basically just a really good example where technology prevents social interaction by making our lives easier :).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 09:30 AM
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It's good advice for people who actually want to do it, but it doesn't solve the problem of apathy. I have a friend who is in university and still a virgin and I was giving him some motherly advice about dating and I suggested inviting some girls to his all-male DnD group (not necessarily to date, but just to get more in his social circle) and he said, "oh, we play online, we're too lazy to come out of dorm rooms." I felt like I was some sort of ancient creature for liking getting together with …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:06 PM
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I agree, but I disagree with why. Simply put, people are displacing social activities where you meet in person with things that can be done inside the home without meeting anyone (Facebook, Netflix, porn, etc.) It's even happening with kids. It used to be that kids were so incredibly bored they'd literally just wander over to each others' houses and knock on the door to play. Now they prefer watching YouTube on their tablets. And now even just calling someone, let alone just dropping by someone'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:28 AM
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Honestly, same is true for MRAs. I think activists are an angry bunch. Of course there are plenty of people who identify as feminists who are normal people because it's somewhat mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:51 AM
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Opening up about how you have depression and that has stopped you from achieving your dreams on the other hand would cause a loss of attraction. I think that's okay, as long as you're doing reasonably well in your life. My husband suffers from depression, but he's successful. Admitting to having depression to me doesn't make him seem weak to me, it makes him seems stronger because he's overcoming it. It'd be different if he was posting about being depressed on Facebook every day and using it as …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:48 AM
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For me it's true. However I'm also repulsed by female emotions. I can't handle other people having emotions around me. It makes me deeply uncomfortable. I wouldn't be repulsed if my husband cried because he doesn't make a habit of it. But if it were like, daily, I'd definitely be repulsed. I struggle with how to teach my highly emotional 6 year old boy to handle his emotions because of this. I have taken a parenting class and read a lot of parenting books, and I know all the parenting books say …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:36 AM
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Non-human! Mostly social insects (hymenopterans).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:44 AM
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You monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:18 AM
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I mean no? If a guy isn't willing to commit to a legally binding marriage doesn't that suggest he's got one foot out the door already? That's a pretty bad sign from a woman's perspective. There's lots of fish in the sea, I'm not going to pick one who isn't willing to make a commitment lots of other people are willing to make. It's not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:16 AM
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They can't seem to come up with a good reason other than not wanting him to be able to leave whenever he pleases. Is that not a very good reason? We have two kids. I don't want him to up and leave whenever he pleases. He doesn't want me to up and leave whenever I please. Is this not the point of marriage? Commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:15 AM
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Mate quality assessment does vary by social context. This is why for instance, in mice, female mice are more attracted to male mice that already smell like a female. The fact that another female was willing to mate with you is information about your mate quality. If your friends actively put down the guy, this will make you think less of him. The social context in high school is weird though. For instance, in high school I was undesirable because of this (being unpopular) but in university popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:52 AM
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They think winding up as lonely cat ladies is those womens' fair punishment for having hooked up with bad boys throughout their young and desirable years instead of looking for a stable relationship with a "good" guy. Yeah, I get that that's the revenge fantasy. I'm not sure it's correct though. Personally I had no trouble transitioning from cock carousel to committed monogamous marriage with two kids when my biological clock started ticking. Not that I know a lot, but the ladies that ended up a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:03 AM
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It's mutually antagonistic, but there is such a thing as a reciprocal exchange. Marriage can be equally good and bad for men and women as long as both parties gain something and make a sacrifice of equal value. Obviously both parties want the better end of the deal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:58 AM
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Don't act like a man and you won't be mistaken for one online ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:54 AM
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If you did this, I would have never married and had children. Having children decreases my lifetime earnings. It's also physically and emotionally taxing and a lot of work. Marriage allows me to have reasonable financial security in order to do so. I'm not willing to bear a man's children if he can't be bothered to at least make a financial stake in them. This includes covering my lost earnings, not to mention compensating for the complete ruination of my body and ruining any future mating oppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:30 AM
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Well the problem is there are people in this thread saying that unwanted pregnancy is worse for men because they can't get an abortion like women can, but also that men won't use it because unwanted pregnancy is worse for women. So it's inconsistent. Either the threat of unwanted pregnancy is great enough that men will take this, or it isn't and only women are willing to face these kinds of side effects. In reality, some proportion of men will likely take this, but not probably as many of them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:25 AM
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I think that's fair. I don't disagree there are different ways of being happy and that can include being forever single. The feature that's worrisome to me is going from really wanting and being interested in attracting women (TRP) and evolving to MGTOW. To me that suggests that it's not necessarily in their nature to be happy being single, but that they're being unhealthily avoidant of women, and that it's a reactionary thing. I have a friend from college that is a bit like this and I'm honestl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:02 PM
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Giving up on dating entirely and staying away from women, yes. Romantic and sexual relationships are a core feature of the human experience. I think probably any psychologist would say it sounds deeply unhealthy. Being too overly focused on appealing to and dating women is also unhealthy too though, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:15 PM
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It seems psychologically unhealthy. Although I can't substantiate this, because no studies have been done, I wouldn't be surprised is there were higher levels of psychiatric disorders in this group - whether it's causal though, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:10 PM
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The anger phase is a unfortunate side-effect of discovering the truth. I don't think it has to be, or if it is, maybe you're selling the "truth" in the wrong way. A lot of the language is very hateful and alienating, like "cock carousel" "chads" etc and can cause people to feel emotional distance from their fellow man. Truth is clinical and objective, not emotional and raw.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:04 PM
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If you can become ridiculously wealthy and famous, then yes, it drowns out most of the other stuff. Are any of us going to be the next Hugh? Just no. That's not a concrete goal to work towards. They're looking for lots of stuff, and different women are looking for different stuff. It makes sense to specialise where you think you might be the most successful on theses axes. If you're a geeky guy (hey, you're on Reddit) you're not necessarily going to enjoy or be successful turning yourself into a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:59 PM
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It is just a path you can take because of what you learn Surely that's a major failure of TRP, if instead of improving their lives it just causes some proportion of people to give up on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:55 PM
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I account russia as the west, but okay. ... https://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/russia/rulatlog.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:52 PM
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I guess the point is, improve yourself, then be yourself. If yourself sucks, and you're yourself, you'll perform badly in the dating market. BUT if you try to fake "being an alpha" you'll do even WORSE (if it's possible - depends on what you're starting with) because women will see right through you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:43 PM
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/210-would-not-bang
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:29 AM
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Anoter thing is to comment girls on their boobs. ...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 01:23 PM
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She does have sharp knees, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 12:24 PM
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I'm not talking about your friend in particular; I don't know him, so I'm not going to comment. I'm taking an extreme example and showing how "acting like an alpha" can be irrelevant. Although I will say I don't think it's that helpful for the average guy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 12:23 PM
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Audrey Hepburn Lol. You might be aiming a bit too high there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 08:25 AM
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My buddy also struggled awfully, he acted like an alpha but is objectively unattractive. I think this is where a lot of RP goes badly wrong. You can't fake confidence. If you're more confident than you have reason to be, that's called arrogance or being cocky. And if it's so badly mismatched with your qualities you'll perform worse than if your attitude matches your social status, because you'll invite people to put you down a peg. If you go around with a cocksure attitude, and you're stupid, ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 08:23 AM
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Is your current SO the best sex you've ever had, and if not, how often do you long for that amazing sex? No, and maybe a bit here and there? My ex would spend an hour tickling me and it was amazing. If I ask my husband to tickle me he'll say no 9/10 and if he does do it it's for like 5 minutes. But, it's actually hard to compare lovers. They're so completely different. There's a reason I ended up with a strict top instead of my ex, who was a bottom. I've never longed for or ever gotten back with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:37 PM
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I'd say none of them were. Although not 100% sure what they are, but like really attractive guys that get laid a lot, yeah? Like frat guys? Yeah none of that. Usually easily attached nerds and geeks were the ones that wanted a relationship. That said I'm not sure chads are real, because I've never met one... maybe we just ran in different circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:51 PM
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Obviously don't shit where you eat, lol. First rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 08:20 AM
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By your definition, I'm a thot. But I had no problem getting married as soon as my biological clock started ticking. I actually do think the "have sex with a lot of men and eventually just pick one for marriage" is a pretty good strategy for women. (As long as you practice safe sex / are fine with abortion, because you really don't want to get stuck parenting with one of the cast-offs)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 08:19 AM
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I don't deny that men are thirsty, but of the men I've hooked up with, there were a fair portion that wanted a relationship with me and were genuinely disappointed that I only wanted casual sex and didn't want a relationship with them. Just because men are more thirsty than women doesn't mean men don't want relationships as much as women do. It's not contradictory to want a relationship but also be much more willing the engage in casual sex. It's often a "I'll take what I can get" kind of propos…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 08:15 AM
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Alimony is mostly gone and is on the way out Has it? Probably depends on your jurisdiction. In the UK it's fairly stable: https://www.furleypage.co.uk/the-latest-development-in-the-spousal-maintenance-saga-mills-v-mills-2018/ That went to the supreme court. The ex-husband wanted to stop the payments, the ex-wife wanted an increase, the courts decided it should continue at its current level indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 06:00 PM
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because he will probably kill himself if he doesn’t. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 03:55 PM
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It's not really funny, it's expected on the basis of self-interest. As op mentions, giving up your earnings potential to be a SAHM carries significant financial risk. You can mitigate that risk by not having children, or if you do, make sure you maintain a career, or if you do, make sure you're married (and to a guy with good enough earning potential) so you have the legal protection thereof. If you want to "get one over" on a woman financially, then get her have your kid and then move to anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 03:50 PM
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Ok... but the vast majority of musicians don't make it. There's a reason the term 'starving musician' is a thing. It's very, very sweet that you believe in him, but honestly if you're dating an artist, novelist or musician the SAHM thing is kind of a pipe dream even if they're moderately successful. I'm friends with a couple where the husband is a moderately successful novelist (he's published 3 novels) and she looked into staying home but the money thing didn't work out. She was able to go back…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:57 PM
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So he has wealthy parents but he used to be broke?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:34 PM
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if you split up, especially if you aren’t legally married, everything will belong to your husband and you’ll have nothing to your name. You’ll probably have to move back in with mom and dad and be stuck working a dead end job on minimum wage. This is kind of predicated on the idea that you're an idiot. First step, definitely always make sure you are married. I wouldn't have kids with a guy unless we were married, SAHM or not. It offers you greater legal protection. You can also make sure you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:30 PM
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The "aiming to be a millionaire" thing kind of sends up red flags for me. Sounds delusional TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:23 PM
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Generally I agree it's a dangerous proposition, however, I think it's not more dangerous than it used to be. For one, there is now alimony and child support. Historically these either didn't exist, or did exist but weren't well enforced. Today it's better enforced. Also, historically women didn't have good opportunities for working outside the home, period. Today there are much better employment opportunities if you get divorced, even though they'd of course be better if you had stayed in the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:19 PM
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Yup. This is what is meant by "chemistry." I can find a man visually appealing, and then have sex with him and not be turned on by him at all. And I've had really mind blowing, amazing sex with a guy who I initially thought was ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 05:19 PM
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Most people in general aren't great writers. If the best you can do is "i'm sarcastic," I'm also not interested, so that works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 05:15 PM
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When people say women are "less visual," they're referring to the large body of research showing that women are less sexually stimulated by visual content: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2739403/ Whether this explains why women rate physical attractiveness as less important compared to men, maybe, maybe not, but it seems a likely mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 05:12 PM
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I don't think the study is silly, but I agree with your conclusion that it's especially skewed because of the conditions (artificial conditions of being forced to choose someone based on picture alone). Looks are important, but they're not as important generally as they are in this microcosm (Tinder). I've found a guy visually attractive before, slept with him and ... nothing. Didn't turn me on at all. And I've had amazing sexual chemistry with a guy with whom my first impression was that he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 05:05 PM
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Well, the major difference is the effect of the modern environment on it. In the past, it made good sense to want a virgin. For one, she'd be guaranteed to not already be pregnant. Before we had calendars, an accurate way of dating the age of fetuses and the length of pregnancies, reliable birth control, abortion, DNA tests, etc. the main risk of an impure woman was that she was already carrying another man's child and you'd end up raising someone else's kid. In the Bible, if a man finds out his…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:59 AM
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what my point is that it seems mostly pointless and unnecessary to have this "system" Well if that's your point, I totally agree. At least in my case, I was the aggressor in approximately 90% of my relationships. The couple of times a guy asked me out and I said yes, it didn't really work out because I just wasn't attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:22 AM
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Cold approaches just generally don't work well, not in getting sources to talk to you as a journalist, not in getting jobs, not in getting dates, not in getting pretty much anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:55 PM
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The idea that we can just simply chalk this up to biology is imo not really something I can agree with. It's moreso about the actual act of approaching/initiating, not about "casual sex". I didn't say this was about biology. I said it about market forces. Which don't really have much to do with biology intrinsically, although certainly they can interact! With lots of people approaching them, this places no pressure on women to pursue others. And as they're not being pursued, men therefore have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:50 PM
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Right. But the dating scene is, at least partially, reflective of preferences. Women have an much, much easier time getting casual sex. The problem is they don't actually want it that much, or if they get it, it's not that great for them. (ON AVERAGE. I say this as a woman who had and enjoyed an awful lot of casual sex. This may not apply to you, etc etc.) It's just basic market principles in action. It's harder for men because they get more out of it, on average. It's easier for women because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:16 AM
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I'm just exhausted, wondering if all of this is worth it, just to bust in some thots pussy. It doesn't even feel good, it's just empty. Soulless, boring, empty connections. It does not feel real or worth it. , but eventually I get bored and want something authentic, as soon as that happens it's over with. She'll instantly lose interest. Not RP, but to me it sounds like your "successful" RP tactics aren't actually getting you what you want, which is a relationship, rather than just sex. IMO a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 01:04 PM
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I have one, and I'd love to use it on him, but for some reason he keeps saying that'd be "rape" or something, I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:19 AM
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I have a copper IUD, one of the most effective forms of contraception available. Even so, I actually have a friend who only wanted two children, and now she has three, because her IUD failed. If a method of contraception is 99.4% effective over the course of a year, but there are a billion women of reproductive age in the world having sex, that's 6 million unintended pregnancies a year. Statistics!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:17 AM
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I just think what you said makes you a greasy blob of shit. Right. And what do you think about people who insult strangers on the internet? I don't think you came out of this smelling like roses, despite your claim of superiority :).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:40 PM
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I do, but I just do what every random commenter on the internet tells me to do, so I guess there's no help for it! Oh well!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:40 PM
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If you can't see how this comment is gross I don't know how I can help you: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b0m16e/having_a_baby_is_a_bigger_commitment_than_marriage/eifl5a3/ Read it again. She said that the only reason a man would ever parent his kids after a separation is to pay less money. This is a pretty gross thing to say about fatherhood. And then said that men that did were "fussypot mommymen". Again, gross comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:38 PM
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Well I did go for the balls, that's true. But honestly she posted really gross things first. Guess I shouldn't have sunk to her level :). That's a rhetorical lesson for me! I didn't see any contempt for fatherhood. She championed totally abandoning your kids based on the behaviour of the mother and implicitly denigrated anyone who continued to parent kids they had with someone who cheated on them though. That's pretty contemptuous IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:27 PM
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I'm just trying to make her understand that her contempt for fatherhood is going to have a terrible outcome. It's okay if you aren't planning to have children, but if you are planning to have kids it's asking for trouble. Kids need fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:22 PM
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Great, I'll tell my husband we're not longer having sex. Should work great.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:58 PM
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Great, I'll let my husband know I'm replacing him with a dildo. I'm sure he'll be pleased.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:57 PM
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"Childfree" doesn't mean "without children," it means "does not nor wishes to have children." See /r/childfree. I'm sorry for your miscarriage, but I think you'll find that if you do have children you might start eating your words. I, too, was convinced I didn't need an extra parent as much as it turns out I actually did. I 100% guarantee you will experience a moment where you wish he'd be more helpful within the first two weeks. Like for example, carrying a load of laundry so you don't pop a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:06 PM
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It's a form of costly signal and therefore more likely to be honest. https://blogs.cornell.edu/info2040/2015/09/20/honest-and-dishonest-signaling-in-animals-a-biological-game-theory/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 04:01 PM
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Marriage is the mini commitment you make before having children, in order to show that you're capable of committing to the big commitment of having children. Basically it's a form of honest signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:59 PM
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It's not, because women don't actually have control over whether men cum in them. Men do. If I had a magic wand that prevented men from cumming in me, I'd absolutely use it!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:54 PM
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I really hope you're childfree. Fathers are an important part of a child's life, believe it or not. Men can enjoy spending time with their children without being "fussypot mommymen." I'm not sure exactly what you consider masculine activities, but my husband enjoys playing chess and LEGO with our kids, and some men also enjoy playing sport with their kids (we're not a very sporty family though.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:52 PM
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I feel like this is a completely uncontroversial claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:47 PM
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Doesn't that make you question his value of your mate though? I don't think I'd ever have a kid with a guy who had abandoned previous children. To me that'd indicate he was poor father material.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:46 PM
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I don't really think it's "most men," but even in a society where men have an equal amount of attachment to children from birth, you'd expect this pattern. To whit: if there's an unintended pregnancy, and the man wants to have it but the woman doesn't, then there's a possibility no baby will be born because abortion is available. Whereas if there's an unintended pregnancy but the woman wants it but the man does not, then there is a baby. So right off the bat there's a gender imbalance here, base…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 03:40 PM
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Higher status means greater access to both long term and short term mating opportunities in men. My point is that using this as part of the definition is just incorrect. In women, low social status women can be promiscuous because access to mating opportunities are easier for them, whereas low social status men have a bit more trouble doing so due to access. My point is that promiscuity doesn't really belong in your definition of alpha status in human women, or really alpha status at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 10:00 AM
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Women naturally become less attracted to their partner over time, whereas men do not. It's necessarily you or her that's the problem, but biology. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2011.569637 There are absolutely things you can do to improve your sex life but just be aware that this is the norm of female sexuality. Based on your username I think you might be being too hard on yourself and also perhaps on your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:52 AM
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The environment had changed and is less harsh. Therefore this places less pressure on families / women to prioritise resources over other qualities. In places where the environment is still harsh, i.e. some rural parts of Africa, you still see examples of, for instance, resource defense polygyny. In Western / wealthy countries, women really do value other qualities (intelligence, attractiveness) over resources than they might in a different environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:47 AM
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"Alpha" terminology has to do with social dominance in a hierarchy. Not promiscuity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_(ethology) It's true that alpha males in tend to do better in terms of RS, however this is not part of the definition. You can have non-alpha males do well in terms of RS using other strategies (i.e. the sneaky male strategy, see dung beetles/ walruses). In humans, I see women forming more complex social groups and they absolutely do display dominance hierarchies. Sororities a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:36 AM
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There has been an overall change though, which has happened over the course of 100 years. Far too fast for natural selection. We seem to be adaptive in the short term. Humans have a much more flexible mating strategy than a lot of animals, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:49 PM
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To be fair, our society / culture does gloss over it quite a bit. When I was a kid I asked my mother "did it hurt when you had me?" and she said, "it's more uncomfortable than painful." After I had my own, I asked her why she had said this to me growing up and she said, "well, I didn't want to scare you." THANKS MOM. When/if my kids ask, I'm not going to sugarcoat it! The general consensus in my baby YMCA classes was that, holy fuck, why had no one every told us how hard it was?! I guess it's on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 02:43 PM
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Although I don't have a problem with the general analysis, but I will say that it ignores the r/K problem. To whit, most people in first world countries are having few children, maybe 2, and then investing a lot in those few children. If your strategy is to invest a lot in few children, then you don't actually need nor necessarily want a much younger women who can produce a larger quantity of lower quality children. You're correct that a 24 year old woman has a lot more capability to have more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 02:27 PM
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did you know that they forget the pain right after birth and want to have another baby? Usually that’s the case. Lol. I have two children and ... just no. I don't remember some parts of childbirth because I was in labour for 50 hours with my first, and sleep deprivation makes you have trouble consolidating those memories. But no, you don't totally forget how awful it is. People are resilient, sure, but there's a very, very high rate of PTSD symptoms and post-natal depression following childbirth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:22 AM
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Depends on what country and what time period. In a modern Western country, with availability of reliable birth control and abortion, I like being a woman. 100 years ago or in a lot of third world countries today with poor access to abortion / C-section, I'd much rather be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:12 AM
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Not OP, but 0 weeks. It'd be a clear sign we were just not on the same page about sex. I think a guy who'd want to wait because he was "serious" about me would probably be totally shocked by the number of people I've slept with, anyway. Not a good match. And frankly, someone saying they were serious about me when we haven't had sex yet is a huge red flag for me. Sounds like a weird stalker TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 04:34 PM
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Same. The only time I've "waited" for a guy is when he was a virgin; then we eased into it for obvious reasons. Personally I have never made a guy wait for sex, so I would find it weird and off-putting if a guy did it to me. Even when I was a virgin, I was the one badgering my boyfriend (we were both 17 at the time) to buy condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 04:33 PM
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Rather it claims love doesn’t actually exist as anything other than a means of expressing “fitness” and appreciation for the exchange of utility. women do not actually experience that for any beings other than their own children Equally you could argue that love for children doesn't exist except for as a means of expressing fitness. You basically picked an ultimate (evolutionary) explanation for love of a spouse or partner, and then you've picked a proximate (psychological) explanation for the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:29 AM
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There is a sex difference, absolutely. But I think it's a stretch to say it's a "serious problem with regret." First, there's still that 54% of women that had a good time. That's not an insubstantial number, it's still a majority. Secondly, it's not always about regret. In that study they measured only positive feelings towards the experience on a 6 point scale WITHOUT breaking down why. As the receptive partner, bad sex is more unpleasant if it goes badly than it is for the insertive partner; t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:09 AM
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True, but unfortunately it's not that easy to fake. Invariably these are men who are poor at social communication to begin with, so at the outset it's going to be harder for them to fake it. To the extent that subscribing to TRP causes them to focus more mental energy on obsessing about women, it could easily decrease their RS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:00 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 06:06 PM
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Grammar pass DENIED.
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