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Have you ever seen ads against women's emancipation from the first suffragettes times? They basically portray the horrors that would take place if women became "free". They showed men not being able to meet and drink with friends because they would have to take care of the kids for example. These men were afraid that the roles would change and they hated the idea. Men knew that women were held under their boots and that they had more freedom than them. And yes, most people had it shitty. But mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:21 PM
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Well, if I was forty and single I don't think I would give your uncle a chance if he has never been in a relationship. I think it's a major red flag, shows that something is probably wrong with him. But it's just me. I guess that focusing on himself and his hobbies would be the best solution. Maybe he will meet someone "by accident" while hiking or traveling to Hungary, or doing whatever he likes to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:20 PM
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Sure Honey. It's hard not to recognize you when you write all of those disgusting things all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:59 AM
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Yep, it's a forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:42 AM
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Don't bother. She has a weird kink that she projects onto everyone else and even shows it off in front of her kids. She humiliates herself and says that its ok if her husband beats her. Discussion with her is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:38 AM
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Yep, If a man is unattractive in his twenties he will probably stay this way and it will get worse. My brother's friends are over 35 now. Three of them will most likely be lonely for the rest of their lives, just like they were when they were young. They make really good money (all of them work in IT), bought apartments so are "successful". It didn't change anything for them. And no, they don't look better with age as well, hitting the gym didn't help. Even their female friends who are still sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:13 PM
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Have you seen old men? I work with dudes in their late thirties and forties. The ones who are lonely will stay that way forever, I can guarantee you. Some of them look like my dad who is older than them. And they do make good money. It doesn't save them from being bitter and, well, old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:01 AM
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If you want to fight for this marriage, I would suggest this: Imagine your life 20 years from now with this man and ask yourself if you would be happy living with him if he stays the way he is now. Because if he decides not to change, it will only get worse, trust me. Plan save escape option for yourself, just in case. And now, you can't tolerate this behavior. He is testing how far can he go, probably trying to train you, just like red pillers talk about training their partners. So show him now…
/r/ExRedPill07/01/22 05:55 PM
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It doesn't sound like fun. It sounds like pain and degradation, and these are things I'm not interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:56 AM
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The guy in the center is the cringest one as well.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/22 10:12 AM
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No, of course it shouldn't be painful for you. I agree with this part. But it doesn't hurt all men, my man is ok with that, it's neutral for him. And I know that it's probably not as pleasurable for him as other positions, but it's the only way I can somehow feel pleasure from penetration without using my hands on the clit. And it's pretty common for many women, it's also common to not feel pleasure from penetration at all (without having to stimulate our clit). Most women need clitoral stimulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:17 AM
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BDSM is a little sick, it's definitely not normal. I guess it's ok if both partners like it. But it's still weird, I would freak out if my man wanted to do any of it. I would stop respecting him I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:09 AM
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Well, it's disgusting. I had to stop eating my sandwich when I read it,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:08 AM
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Because jumping up and down is not pleasurable. Like at all, it just feels like thrusting. It doesn't stimulate the clit. Grinding gives some pleasure because it stimulates us better. So of course I'm going to do that, I'm not going to only do things that are pleasurable to man. Penetration is pleasurable for men in literally every other position. We deserve at least this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:58 PM
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Porn is not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:26 PM
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She just cares about her skin. It's just a vitamin c-cream, she started using it as a teenager. It's not "anti-aging" cream. And even if it was, so what? Again, she would be using products for her skin to it looks good. If I wash my face and apply cream does it mean that I'm afraid of aging? Or when I care about my hair? Why would trying to look good and clean be a sign of "fear of aging"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:47 PM
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Actually, my mom only uses one vitamin-c cream that she has been using since I remember. She doesn't use expensive creams, even when I buy them some. It's the same cream my grandmother used to use, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:52 PM
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The funny thing is that George Clooney is post wall according to their definition. He looks much worse than he used to and he loses compared to better-looking actors. Also, I work with older women in their thirties and forties. I also work with older men. None of these women has problems with dating, some of them got married only this year. While men who are single have been single for years now and are angry and hard to spend time with. Women will always have options if they take care of themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:37 PM
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Yep! And then I look around and see, that what they say doesn't take place in real life. I swear, these guys live in some weird fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:33 PM
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You don't change much between 20 and 25. So why would there be a decline? My source is just my observation. No woman I know have problems with dating and finding a husband. I work with older women and most of them found husbands in their late thirties. I was on couple of weddings this year, one of them married a man my age. My point is that people who take care of themselves, have options later in life as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:31 PM
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Everyone ages. So I knew that. But I grew up with beautiful women, my mom was amazing at 40. I didn't feel like my life was going to end once I'm 30. I still don't, but red pill men try to make me be afraid of that. There are even redpillers who say that a woman can't be successful at all when she is over 30. Which is obviously bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:28 PM
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No, womne don't see decline in attention at 25. We really don't. I swear red pill claims that "the wall" appears earlier and earlier every time I enter these pages. No, women don't see decline in attention at 25. We really don't.t. doing it when I was 16 and gave me the biggest attention when I was a kid (11-12 years old). But I don't think we're talking about attention from pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:39 PM
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I never heard about it until I discovered red pill pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:30 PM
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Who are feminist leaders? When did women who are leaders of the movement actually discuss killing men? Gave ideas on how men could be enslaved? How men should be obedient because they are too emotional? And #killallmen was criticized by tons of feminists, despite it being an answer for women being murdered and raped or not having rights in many places in the world. Killing men or taking away their rights is not accepted and discussed. This hashtag is criticized by many feminists and if you try t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:27 PM
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Who are leaders of feminist movements? And when did these leaders say that we should take away men's rights, or enslave them, or that men should be obedient, otherwise they will deserve their punishment? That men are worse than women in every way? Or that men come from the devil and should not be educated?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:03 PM
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I do, but they are usually being shut down and silenced by other feminists. Red pill dudes don't shut down men who dehumanize women. They invite them to their conventions instead. You don't have forums full of women discussing the need of taking away men's rights and trying to prove that men are superior to women. Or youtube channels telling that a good man is silent and obedient, eats pussy on demand, and if he doesn't do it he doesn't love his woman. Even hardcore feminists on youtube don't ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:32 PM
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After I discovered red pill I started following other men's spaces, not necessarily the red pill but conservative/christian. I even joined some of their facebook groups in my country out of curiosity. In one of the groups, I saw two guys who I knew and thought were normal people. And then I read what they wrote. One of them, whom I thought I knew well because he is my friends's brother, wrote that men are superior to women in every way possible and that men should take away our rights and just p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:59 PM
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I do it for fun but also use it to educate my friends and show them how men can think about them behind their backs. Red pill turned me into a hardcore feminist and did the same to my friends, including the ones who were still deep into religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:45 PM
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Most women really can, they just don't try at that age. It's becoming more common each year. Menopause usually heats around 50, not 40.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 06:44 PM
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Women definitely can have children at 37-39. My mom had me at 41 and my sister at 43. Almost all of my friends have mothers who were in their late 30s or over 40 when they gave birth to them.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 10:34 AM
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Yep. There are older people who are hot (Tom Hiddleston, Gwen Stefani) but this guy is definitely not it. The thing that makes me laugh is the way he portrays Eastern European countries, as he supposedly lives in Ukraine. I'm Polish. No, we are not submissive waiting for old american men to marry us.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/21 11:11 PM
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I agree. Nobody should have a problem with that, this includes women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 10:57 PM
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Because many of men in their 30s and forties are creepy.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/21 10:40 PM
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I have the same as her. I don't feel horny just because I'm in love and crazy about someone. I just don't. The sexual attraction is kind of triggered in me by kissing and the situation in general. When I fantasize about someone hot, I don't imagine sex. I imagine neck kisses, love declarations, and things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:26 PM
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Many people. I don't feel sexual attraction when I meet someone or have deep feelings for them. I can be in love, have butterflies in my stomach and still, I won't even think about sex. Kissing or whispering sweet things? Sure. But being in love doesn't make me horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:24 PM
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I just cringe at this point when I see "red pill" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:26 PM
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Why would they start the topic themselves? Only to lie? When they feel the need to talk they share with their friends. It's not like we sit together and decide to talk about our experience with anal. >They asked. That's how I know. I also know that women like to keep up appearances in their friend groups. I also asked to give a blowjob. I didn't want to, I just felt like I should be doing it to be a "good lover".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:46 PM
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None. But I'm a woman myself and I talk to women. Women will fake in front of their men and then admit to their friends how their sex is really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:37 PM
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Nah, definitely mostly men want it. Women will not get any pleasure from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:25 PM
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This is what most men want when thy say about exploring. Anal sex, deepthroat etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:33 PM
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See, the problem is that men want to try things that will most likely be pleasurable for them but painful or uncomfortable for women. A man wanting me to try anal will always be a problem. Being open-minded? Sure, as long as it's not disgusting, painful, or degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:29 PM
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I'm an enthusiastic partner and I will never agree on most things from porn. I don't want to be degraded or in pain. It doesn't mean that I'm not enthusiastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:27 PM
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I agree. When I watch Rollo Tomassi, Jesse Peterson or freshandfit content I don't even get mad. I just cringe. And when I find out that someone watches these guys I just lose respect for them.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/21 08:01 PM
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We lose most of our eggs when we hit puberty. At 30 women still have plenty of them. It's pretty common for women in their 40 to have kids these days and even more in their 30s. My mom had my sister at 42. Three of my friends were born were their mothers were in their 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:44 PM
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In the red pill world, 25 yo women are "approaching the wall" and 30 yo are angry, lonely spinsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:38 PM
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I'm 27. So are my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:35 PM
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It's me, all of my friends, my sister, her friends... My sister is 18. She and her friends call men who hit on them, who are in their thirties and forties "pedophiles". If I dated a 40 yo man, my friends would ridicule me for it and think that I'm a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:12 PM
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Yep, I just don't see men over 40 who would be attractive to me. I work with old men and none of them is hot. And their age alone makes them undatable. If I was single, I would not consider even giving them a chance. I'm in the market square in my town right now. Tons of 40 yo men. Not a single one is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:10 PM
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I don't get it either. Sex is one of the least important things in my life. If my man suddenly couldn't have penetrative sex, I would not have a problem with that. Oral sex is nice, so I would hope that he would still be pleasing me. But if he couldn't, I would be fine as well. I definitely wouldn't leave a happy, intimate, and loving relationship that I have now to get a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 10:28 AM
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A lot of men hear excuse after excuse of why their wives don’t want to have sex...they have headaches, they are too tired, they aren’t in the mood, their husbands haven’t done enough...the list goes on. Sadly, in these types of relationships, a lot of husbands need to earn sex with their wives which shouldn’t be the case. It kinda should be the case. If their wives truly enjoyed themselves, they wouldn't say no too often. They should make sure that their wives orgasm and enjoy themselves, or tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:44 PM
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I live in Poland and grew up in a conservative and Christian environment. I went to a Christian school, attended tons of Christian meetings, etc. We had a lesson at school called "bible studies" and another lesson called "religion". They told us that, as women, we should prepare ourselves to be wives, that we should serve our husbands and follow their lead. We were told that if we wanted to work, have a career or do pretty much anything else than getting married, we were poisoned by evil and mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:05 PM
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Submission and femininity are seen as weakness and pretty much as enslavement because traditional, conservative men portray it this way. They say that a woman should serve her husband, that his aspiration and sexual needs are more important. That she is his helpmeet and should focus on his success. This sounds like a nightmare. As a woman who loves life and wants to be successful, this "traditional femininity" sounds like a waste of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:15 PM
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The worst part is that no matter what your brother will do, the manosphere will blame his wife if she manages to leave him. They will say that she destroyed her family, that she divorce raped him and so on. I've read a lot of manosphere materials, I've spent some time on their youtube channels and twitter. They are not about men's rights. They mostly care about dominating and ruling over women. They openly say that for a relationship to work, a woman needs to submit in everything and should focu…
/r/ExRedPill09/07/21 10:28 AM
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>In actual fact, feminists completely get away with their bigotry in the mainstream. No, they don't. At least not in my country, Feminists are called men-haters and feminazis all the time. Whenever someone says that it's not actually true, people mention violent or angry feminists. Admitting in public to being a feminist goes with a high risk of being criticized. And I don't see why would it be different for red pill? Because what? They have a lot of hateful members who discuss putting women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:04 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:30 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say. It doesn't matter what sidebar says if Redpill members and coaches act the way I said they act. I'm not judging the idea, I'm judging the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:30 PM
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I've read the sidebar. And sorry, the actual actions, books, and words of red pill gurus, the culture around it can't be ignored. Red pill is hated because of the misogyny and dehumanization of women that is a big part of it. It doesn't work like that. Just like feminism is criticized for "kill all men" or other violent actions of its members. Men don't say "hey, let's ignore the misandry, we should just focus on the principles". So why should we do it when it comes to the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:37 PM
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It's not just self-improvement thought. There is a whole culture built around it, and putting women down is a big part of it. Red pill "gurus" play a big role in it. That's why red-pill is hated. Rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:29 PM
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Do you have the same spirit when it comes to feminism and ignore feminazis and "kill all men" gals? Maybe the theory is good. But red pill members do much more than that. And red pill gurus preach disgusting misogyny. If you don't want to be seen as hateful maniacs, you need to put them in check. re said by red pill men. Maybe the theory is good. But redpill members do much more than that. And red pill gurus preach disgusting misogyny. If you don't want to be seen as hateful maniacs, you need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:35 PM
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I don't think that a taller or richer man is superior to me. I don't feel humbled in a presence of successful men. I'm superior to these men in tons of other things. Them being taller or richer don't make them good partners. I needed my man to be hot, love me like I'm the most amazing woman in this world and be supportive. My fiance is taller than me and obviously stronger (like all men). But I make more money, I'm more creative and ambitious, I'll probably be more successful. He would be called…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:31 PM
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Why would I want my man to dehumanize me? To see me inferior? Why would I want my men to expect me to be submissive? And the last thing, why should I be ok with my man spending time with people calling women sluts, whores, cumdumpsters, and worse? Redpill paints women as mindless creatures. If a woman studies, has aspirations, passions and doesn't submit, they say that she was "brainwashed by feminism". According to them, the only good woman is a woman who marries right after high school and ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:20 PM
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Her fantasy is just a response to a harm that men do towards HER gender. Men can't ignore this shit and then be surprised that women get pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:59 PM
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I wouldn't debate any redpiller or mgtow. You know why? Because I know that their followers would come after me and no matter what I would say,. They would call me stupid female who feeds her hamster or whatever. I also don't like debating "alpha men" because they get aggressive during debates and I can't handle that. And again, they would make fun of me no matter what I would say. So not worth it.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 07:56 PM
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>Ironically like many sexist things this exists on the same coin and has the misogynistic belief that women sexuality is inherently pure and innocent Women's sexuality wasn't seen as pure and innocent. Quite the opposite, women's sexuality was seen as impure, that's why in many places women didn't learn about sex until their wedding day. Women's pleasure was treated as unimportant and women were supposed to stay innocent by not fantasizing and wanting sex (because it would make them impure).
/r/ExRedPill12/06/21 05:13 PM
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I also didn't get any attention when I was in high school. Men who wouldn't give me a chance back then, now ask me out. Literally, my high school and university colleagues started being interested in me and giving me attention after ten years of treating me as if I was invisible, or as one of the guys. Do I blame them? No. I was an awkward, poorly dressed girl with a puffy face and bad skin. I didn't know how to flirt back and I was, well, ugly. Like, really ugly. I grew out of it at 25-26 when …
/r/ExRedPill12/06/21 04:03 PM
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I think that the red pill rage or anger phase is a normal tactic in radical or hateful movements. It's not just something that exists only in redpill/mgtow. I saw it in my country in other movements or even political parties. The idea is to ridicule the other side, show them as an enemy and as inferior people who want to destroy the country or whatever bullshit reason they have. Otherwise, it wouldn't work, these kinds of movements or ideologies need hurt and angry people to thrive.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/21 03:49 PM
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Making you cum is rocket science? Like one needs to follow a precise recipe and time the whole thing to make sure you came in the right window of opportunity? No wonder if all your experience were lacking if fucking you is akin to playing 3D chess. But it is what it is. I need to be touched the right way, in the exact, one spot. Clit needs to be stimulated the whole time, no matter what, or I will not feel any pleasure. And no, I never used any sex toys and I masturbate maybe once a year. So I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:34 PM
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Read previous posts, maybe you will understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 02:09 PM
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>As for the rest of the post, so? Older men can get younger women just find for consensual, casual sex one way or another. It doesn’t matter what you personally think about it. Same with older women. But these are exceptions that you try to treat like a norm. Young women don't chaste old men. Deal with it. Most women date men around their age. ​ >Because it is true, many women here are obsessed with men dating younger women for that reason. There are tons of women my age and younger than me who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:56 PM
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You were trying to diminish women's opinions by saying that they for sure are old and jealous. As if you don't like hearing the truth. When young women write these things, they get ignored because men don't like to hear it. >So you hate old men to the point you dehumanize them. Nice. No, they dehumanize me and my friends. And no matter how much you want it, old men aren't a catch for young women. Young women don't chase old men. Big age gaps are exceptions, not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:23 PM
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You have old dudes here trying to cope and saying that they pick at forty, but somehow women here are the bad guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:24 AM
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A lot of women here are young and they still say that they don't like old men. But old men hate to hear that. I'm 28 and I never gave a chance to an old dude who approached me. And I wasn't even that hot until I was 25. I work with old men in their late thirties and forties. None of them is hotter than any 20 something years old man I know. I don't even see them as men, but as "work colleagues" at best. None of my friends date or marry an old man. When they hit on us, we make fun of them. When a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:21 AM
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She runs a really fucked up subreddit. She said that women should sacrifice everything for their men, that being degraded is ok. She is a troll, has a sick kink, or is just a really messed up person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:16 AM
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>But, please continue your crusade. Maybe go picket outside of Leo or Clooney’s house too while you’re at it. ​ Keep thinking that these exeptions are the norm. There are older women with hit, attractive men. Divorced Heidi Klum, who is 48 now, married a 30 yo Tom Kaulitz, German Rock Star. Miranda Kerr, a divorced, single mother over thirty married hot, and young billionaire. Shakira is married to a 10 years younger football star. And these are just view examples out of many. But these are exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:13 AM
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I generally agree. I think that people should be reasonable and just do things when they see that they need to be done. I earn more than my man but we work the same amount of hours. I don't expect him to clean a certain percentage longer than I do, to "pay me back" for my money. That would be weird and unhealthy. He cooks most of the time, but I almost always clean after meals. When I'm not home and he is, he often cleans, makes laundry, cooks dinners so I have a warm meal when I come back. I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 05:48 PM
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This one is my favorite <3
/r/ExRedPill26/05/21 04:11 PM
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>"In a straight couple, the man should like the woman more than she likes him.And he must fall in love first." Red pill/manosphere twitter is full of similar advice but for men. The feild is even. They also say stuff like "she should do more for you than you do for her", "you are more important than she is". I agree that this message is toxit and shitty. But so are dating coaches most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:55 PM
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Is it just me or actually a lot of these responses is wholesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:59 AM
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I have couples in their twenties in my social circles who have kids. All of the fathers are active in their children's upbringing, they don't have a problem taking a day off of work to take care of a sick child (their women also work). Their wives and partners who are my friends have time for themselves, we spend some weekends on female-only escapades when their children stay with their dads. And I'm not talking about older kids, most of them had between 8-12 months when we traveled, the oldest …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 07:20 AM
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Well, no. Maybe I was loud as well, I tend to laugh a lot I'm usually the social butterfly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 07:12 AM
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> umm I don't know where you reside but here in Europe my generation was and still is way more active in nature than people in their 20s who, even if they go on a hike or two, spend most of the time taking pictures to post on social networks I also live in Europe, and older men act...old. Sometimes, some of them, try to act "youthful" which is even more cringy. There is a type that always wears a suit and babbles about their "important" job, tries to lecture everyone, or is always irritated and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:29 PM
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Being opinionated can be a good thing. It gave me a lot of benefits in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:16 PM
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> you mean a few :) Thank you, English isn't my first language. > we are talking guys in their 30s not 60s or 70s Nah, I work with men who from 33 to 40 something years old. They all have a "my times were better" attitude. When we go for a work beer and I or other younger people talk about our hobbies, plans etc like playing music, traveling or just fucking camping in the mountains, they all laugh and ridicule our ideas. The past was better, they know it all = old men attitude. My much older bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 10:55 PM
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Feminine doesn't mean submissive. A woman who doesn't do everything what her man wants and has her own opinions, passions and desires isn't less "feminine".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 10:39 PM
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- Old-people's attitide ( no matter how hard you try, you will have it) - Worse hair and looks - I-know-it-all attitude - Tried many thing in life and doesn't many of them doesn't excite him anymore- no 'first times' together - Suddenly wants to have a child and doesn't care that his younger girlfriend might want to enjoy her youth without diapers. ​ Just to name a view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 02:35 PM
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Honestly, none of this changes my central premise. The reason you don't view having a strong, masculine man to protect you as being a real consideration is because you can go to the supermarket if you need food, because there are no predators trying to eat you, and because you don't expect hostile outgroups to show up trying to steal your territory. You live in a predictable and safe environment, thanks to the work of men carving civilization from the savage wilderness, so you can whine on the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 07:39 PM
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> Meanwhile the men were getting turned into Swiss cheese. He? No, meanwhile men from the village were getting drunk or traded things with Russians. And women fought as well during Uprisings. Hence, children had to fight. And were shot. Women died during the war. And many were brutally raped by Germans and Russians during "liberation". Liberation my ass. > If you think taking over the farmwork while the men get slaughtered and then cowering from the victorious Germans is equal to what was expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:33 PM
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> Look I'm sorry that you hate your father. He? I see his faults but I don't hate him. He was a shitty husband though, just like my uncle. And fathers of my friends (I, unfortunately, grew up in a shitty catholic environment). All of my friends who grew up in conservative families are in normal, equal relationships now. They don't have to ask for permission to meet with me, to buy something, to get money. > I'm aware of the staggering levels of exaggeration that tend to occur whenever a woman is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 05:43 PM
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> As for this ''all a housewife does is suck dick and clean'' line that you're taking. That's just the feminist poison you've soaked up. Yes, traditionally a woman's responsbility is to maintain the home, but at this point men have invented so much technology to help with that, it barely takes any time at all. Your life as a housewife would be primarily concerned with nurturing and educating the children, a role you would almost certainly enjoy much more than you've been told you would. ​ First,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:33 PM
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I got unwanted sexual attention when I spontaneously went to the pub and later to the club in sweatpants, martens, and my man's t-shirt. That night my friend wore shorts a'la cargo pants and also some old t-shirt. She got interrupted as well. It doesn't matter what we wear. And I like looking good, I work from home and I still wake up dress up. Although I don't wear "sexy" clothes. I prefer dresses, midi skirts etc. But still, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:58 PM
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I honestly don't see how being with a dominant man who would try to tell me what to do and expect me to stop doing the things I like because he would expect me to stay at home and serve him, would be worth it. And all of this only because someday something dangerous might happen. Not being my own person, only listening and following, because something might happen from time to time. I definitely prefer my man, who doesn't try to boss me around and "be in his frame", who is ok with me being happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:52 PM
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Yeah, my man would also be called a soft or beta by red pill dudes. He isn't dominating in bed, neither am I, there is no power play at all. We never have rough sex. Now I make more money than he does, he made more than I do for a moment. When we met, neither of us worked. He cooks, I usually clean after dinner. At the same time, he has what these guys say a man should get from a woman: my youth, my support, etc (I cringe while writing this, but just trying to use the red pill perspective). I fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:49 PM
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No. It's something that we do for men. But men usually don't care about pleasing us, so it's only a one-way effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:33 AM
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Well, sex is not really that enjoyable so we had to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:11 PM
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And my fish metaphor is about wanting it to come as easily as someone who's literally biologically advantaged in the specific thing being discussed, and in the process losing sight of your own biological designs and advantages. Men are not biologically better at being musicians or at doing other things. More and more women prove that we can be great at these things as well. Men are stronger, that's it. But women grow babies inside their bodies, so we are even (I would say that growing babies is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 06:32 AM
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Because I love my man. Do I need him? No. But I want to be with him because I love him, I choose to form a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:18 PM
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> i myself am a woman of potential childbearing capabilities (though no plans on it) Same here. But I still admire other women for having children and accomplishing their goals. Just because some men on the internet hate the idea of women not being their servants, it doesn't mean that you have to listen to them. Do what makes you happy, not what men's red pill sites want women to do. Look around, more and more women are accomplishing great things. And honestly, I understand your concerns. When I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:18 PM
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Girl. Women give births, our bodies literally can grow and feed another human being. At the same time, we can be musicians, engineers, writers... ​ That's much more impressive than being strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:32 PM
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> our curse is somehow growing up in a culture that made you want a bunch of things that you're not easily predisposed to getting. Being a woman doesn't mean that we can't easily do things other than being servants and child bearers. And obviously, childbirth is much more impressive than anything a man can do, but that's another thing. A woman who wants to do other things that just support men is not a fish wanting to ride a bike. Because we, as women, can actually do other things. I as a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:26 PM
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It doesn't make anyone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:20 PM
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I'm sure I'm not in a coma :D But it doesn't really matter. I would work on myself and do the things I love without his praises. Again, I wasn't born to please men. I have only one life and I wouldn't waste it on not doing what I love, only because it doesn't make me hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:19 PM
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Well, Id doesn't matter if men care about women interests, degrees ect. I never wondered if me doing something would make me hotter. But you can also find a better man. Mine supports me in doing the things I love to do, he is my biggest fan and brags about my accomplishments to all of his friends. I heard him a couple of times saying to his friends how amazing I am according to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:02 PM
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But it's not true. I don't live to please men and have children. Which, btw, is much more important and impressive than having big muscles and lifting heavy things. Women aren't less smart, more and more women invent things, create, compose, write. You are not worse than men and your life doesn't have to focus around men unless you make it that way. You can be happy and work on the things that you actually enjoy, or you can die miserable trying to please men because you don't feel important enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:48 PM
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> A woman’s best is marring that man. There is no set “womanhood” for women to strive for. Only getting the best man, which is quite disheartening. Since women only have 12 years (18-30) of attractiveness, they are limited to what they are do, and how long that may take. How many relationships that aren’t long term. What type of career or what she is going to do with her life after kids. Man suffers not this issues. He’s goal is to be the best, and is honored for it. Although this screws over th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:42 PM
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His wife is either faking it, or he made everything up (the second option is more probable). I just can't understand how these men can believe in this story. It's obviously not true, just like most of their field reports.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/21 02:47 PM
1

For red pill standards? No, I'm the worst. I'm not submissive and actively refuse to be, I want to be successful in my profession, I'm not a people pleaser and I always had an "I don't give a fuck" attitude. For my man? I think I'm a great catch. He says that I'm the best thing that ever happened to him. We never argue, we support each other in achieving our goals. I show interest in his hobbies as he shows interest in my hobbies, we also developed mutual hobbies throughout our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:48 PM
1

- Not having to work and provide for me. Bullshit. My man will not be able to give me what I actually want, no man will. Just buying food is not enough. - Not having to perform. I mean, I probably don't have to be successful (no one has to). But if I don't try I will be miserable, because I won't achieve the things I want. So... I kind of have to work my ass off to feel good and accomplished. - Having easy access to sex. How could it be a benefit? Sex is not that great, and I can't imagine how s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:43 PM
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Nah, she is of higher value in every way than he is. I just checked, this dude got extremely lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:12 PM
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That's what they want. They want women to think that our lives are over when we stop being 25. Not only when it comes to dating, but in general. But it's not true, so stop worrying and start enjoying your life.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 03:31 PM
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I think she is good now, it seems that this whole situation motivated her to work on her happiness. After she got rid of his stupid ass, he tried to come back to her a couple of times but thankfully she didn't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 09:54 PM
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I'm also from EE, and I mostly agree. Only women in my country are not traditional or submissive, despite men in the US thinking that we are. Like, being a SAHM is not a thing here and women get offended when they hear about being subservient. We laugh every time when someone says that we are so traditional. Recently we had tens of thousands of women rioting on the streets against our conservative, church-loving government. And we know what men from the US want, we don't see them as some magical…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:50 PM
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More and more women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:34 AM
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Its funny how you say all these things like sex isn't one of the best feelings you can have in the world. It's not, not for me, and not for many women anyway. And yeah, every time my man wants ex, I need to shower first, can't be tired, sad or angry etc. I understand that he needs it and I try to not refuse too often, but it definitely requires much more work than hugging. But it's not the best feeling in the world. I know at least 20 things better than sex. > Sure sex takes all of that, but wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:24 AM
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Maybe in the past 20 years in the west. Definitely not before, not not in other parts of the world. We had "men are amazing, everything is woman's fault" effect for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:57 PM
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Honestly, none. But I have two friends who were cheated on. One found out about it a week before her wedding, she had to cancel everything while dealing with a breakdown. She was with this guy since forever, he was her first and she was his first. So no, not fucking around and giving him her youth did not save her from being betrayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:18 AM
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No one ever thought that women could do no wrong. At least not where I live. We have a saying that means "where devil can't go, he will send a woman". Women were held accountable for their husbands' bad behavior towards them. Even church saints described women as flawed humans, while men were the "picture of God". Women were to be subservient because it was believed that they can't properly function without a man. So how could this possibly translate to "women can do no wrong"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:09 AM
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Really? And how do you know? And you know that many women tend to act nice, even when they are creeped out? I'm one of those women. Many of us also act nice when someone hit on us even though we don't want to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:53 AM
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Yep. I'm 28 and I still find it gross when dudes in their late 30s and 40s from my work, on festivals, or wherever try to flirt and ask me out. I'm in a relationship, so I don't look for anyone. But when a guy my age, in his early thirties or 20s hits on me, I see it as a compliment. When an older dude does it, I find it gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:14 PM
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- I hate cocky, mean men (and people in general). It doesn't make me want to please them, instead, I don't want to hang out with them and try to escape as soon as possible, - When I hear about men who don't clean after themselves, who don't cook or take out the trash, I find them pathetic, not masculine. I immediately picture them as they leave shit stains on the toilet and no matter how good they look in a suit, they disgust me. - I think it's sexy when my man cooks for me, especially when he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:05 PM
3

Hot men can become creepy when they act creepy. Even if they don't seem like it at the beginning. I felt disgusted when a guy I had a crush on started making "jokes" to me about me sucking his dick. It made me stop being crazy about him immediately, instead, I cried later at night to my friends. I was creeped out by an attractive "friend" who asked me and my other friend if we ever tried anal. Maybe hot men (hot people in general) have the advantage of not being seen as creepy from the beginning…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:31 PM
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Seriously, this dude is a clown. It shows that women should not listen to these types of "coaches", because they don't care about our happiness. Why would I listen to a guy who puts men first? Oh, and I have an idea for his next video. If womens' pleasure isn't required for reproduction, then Men shouldn't leave women who are mean, don't respect them, and who don't do anything besides laying and eating netlifx. Because male happiness is not required for reproduction either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:06 PM
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Becasue according to them I will leave him as soon as some old dude approaches me, or he will leave me when he gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:01 PM
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Weird to have that irrational borderline incel hatred He? How stating facts is incel borderline hate? Most women don't date old men, Kevin Samuels would like to change that. He sees that most couples have similar ages, not some 15+ plus difference. And he is not attractive, he does look for his age. Tons of these men (manosphere) try to lecture us on how we should date old men. They know that most women don't really want aged boyfriends, most of us are with men who are around our age, the differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 03:17 PM
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Soon to be. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 03:07 PM
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Maybe some older women. But he is not attractive, definitely can't win with tons of hotter men. Just becasue he wears a sute and talks a lot, it doesn't make him a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 03:05 PM
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Yep, he desperately wants young women to be attracted to aging men like him. He does look old already and probably sees that we don't want dudes 15 years our senior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 03:01 PM
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How having an old husband who will be in control of the money could be a good thing for me? He obviously doesn't really care about women's wants, he just wants women to sacrifice and make old men happy. Why would listen to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 02:58 PM
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I think it's kind of true for everyone. If I was single, I wouldn't want someone much older, but above all, I wouldn't want someone divorced or with a child. At the same time, I wouldn't want a forever single man, who jumps from one woman to another. I don't think I could trust someone like this, or that I could feel safe with a guy like that. So both options, men with baggage (divorced or with children) and men who weren't in a committed relationship for a long time sound bad, just in a differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:24 AM
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"Making you do only what he wants" is the feminist bogeyman caricature of the word "submit" tied to the assumption that all men are sociopath abusers. It's how men portray it. She has to listen, put him first and do what he says. His hobbies are more important, his voice is more important. He gets to decide what they do, his time is more important. His sexual needs are more important, if he wants to do something weird, she needs to be open. I've spent too much time in manosphere to belive that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:52 PM
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How would he know if it works from only reading some forums? And if he would try to make me submit and do only what he wants, of course it wouldn't work. And yeah, being a submissive houswife is not worht the risk, becasue I would be screwed if I didn't have my own money and he started negging me and treating me as less than him (by applying redpill tactics).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:22 PM
1

I can't know what he will be like in ten years. What if he decides that red pill is great and starts applying it's tactics? If I was a houswife, I would be screwed. Without my own money, having to explain why I want something, having to ask for permission... I've read too much of Rollo Tomassi stuff to not be paranoid about it. And honestly, too many men put their hobbies and free time first, as more important than their partner's time. At least from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:53 AM
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He doesn't have to be awful. But he might get angry at me, we might argue. He might decide that his football snickers or something are more important than my keyboard. He might decide that he deserves more time for himself because he works outside of the house. He might decide that I can't have evening classes because I'm a housewife and I have to prepare supper for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:47 AM
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Well, you do you. I guess people are different. When I started doing the things I do now, when I was learning new things, I never asked myself if it would make me more attractive. It just didn't cross my mind. If I wanted to do something, to learn something, to work somewhere, I did just that. My hobbies aren't making me hotter for men. But it doesn't really matter, they make me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:38 AM
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Because we might have hobbies, interests and need money for that. We might want to do other things and have some time and resources to do so. When I work, I get my money and I don't have to explain why I bought another keyboard or attended a scholarship. I don't have to ask for permission to do things. When a woman is submissive, she has to ask and her husband might say no. He will be free to do his "man things" but she will have to ask and rely on his whims. What if he gets angry at his wife? H…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:33 AM
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I'm angry. Really, Poland pisses me off on daily basis at this point. Luckily, tons of people try to fight against these abortion laws, there were giant protests a couple of months ago that lasted for weeks. These were the largest protests that we had here for years, tens of thousands of people walked together. Also, people are leaving the church, so things are changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:46 AM
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Oh, Poland has really shitty abortion laws. True, and it's getting worse. Have they missed their biology lessons? I think that they knew how it works. They just permformed a mental flip to present men as "life givers". You know, they are penetrating, they are giving sperm... So they "give". As always, they hate to see woman's role as more important and more significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:19 AM
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Now I live in Poland but I'm half Ukrainian. In both of these countries it's pretty much the same, Ukraine is worse though. Their argument was that sperm is life and egg is just a lifeless thing. They literally said that they carry life in their body all the time, and that they give it too a woman. For them, mother is just a repository of this life. When I told them that a mother gives half of the genetic material to the child, and it's a woman who does all the work, they called me a womanhater …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:04 AM
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True. Where I live there is a nationalist movement with really traditional views. Once women from the organization wrote on the Facebook page that motherhood is beautiful, that childbearing is important ect. Men from the same group got pissed and said that sure, motherhood is important but women just carry the child. They said that it's men who create life and women are just the soil. ​ Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:46 AM
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Exactly, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:57 AM
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Can be whatever. A musician, writer, pastry baker, dancer, programmer, mother, supporting other mothers, you name it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:57 AM
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But it's not about being more attractive. I know that my mission and aspirations don't make my man's dick hard. So what? It's important that he supports me in it, just like I support him. But I wouldn't stop doing what I'm doing because it doesn't make me hotter, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:55 AM
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No, they don't support women having their own mission. I wrote a couple of times under different redpill youtube videos that the reason many women don't want to "submit" is because we have our own missions and aspirations. I said that I didn't want to only serve and support my man's goals, because I also want to be successful and built something for myself. All of them hated it, said that I will die alone (despite me being in a years-long relationship.). So no, they don't support it. There are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:52 AM
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Many of the things men like are painful for the woman. They get pleasure and orgasm faster by seeing a woman in pain. It's mostly men who want anal. I don't need therapy to stop seeing things that would be bad for me as bad, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:22 AM
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No, tons of women don't want that. Tons of women are afraid that they will be bad lovers if they don't let men abuse them. And it men who want to "ExPeRiMEnt" and "TRy nEW thINgs" that bring these thigns up and expect their partners to agree on them. Being in pain is not what we all want. Women actually want sexual pleasure and orgasm as well. Sorry if that bothers you but reality doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:42 AM
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Did I trigger you? I have to destroy your bubble, women most of the time don't actually "look up" to men, we see old men for who they are- stressed because of the middle age crisis aging humans. If someone says something cringy, it's most likely a dude approaching his forties. I mean, look at manosphere gurus.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:36 AM
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No, that's true. I used to think that men were wise and stoic (because of my father and the whole Santa Claus myth) when I was still a little girl and delusional about the world. I was surprised when I actually started talking to older men at work. I meet tons of "successful, mature men" in my professional life. Those 30 and 40 year olds are not wise and mature most of the time. We cringe when they make jokes are trying to act professionally. When I stopped being a child, I learned that even men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:29 AM
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But it's true. And a lot of us also say that old men are immature despite being old. So they can be both, immature AND creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:12 AM
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Evolution? Why do virtually all women love bdsm and rough sex? Dominant, assertive men, turn them on. No, not all women like this. I'm sick of men behaving like it's true and that we only want to please you. We don't. I'm one of the women who don't even agree on dirty talking. It's just the manosphere who loves to talk about how women don't value pleasure and want be beaten up. Even on Reddit and Twitter, there are threads written by women who are sick of painful, rough sex and are shamed for be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:26 PM
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I mostly agree with what you wrote in your response. I was mostly responding to common notion in the manosphere, that women's lives are miserable when they hit 30 and that only relationship will make them truly happy. None of this is true. They really talk about "the wall" as a revevnge, he the things these men want to happen... don't really happen. I'm 28, I hit the wall five years ago according to some of them, or three years ago according to other manospherians (I didn't even know I was in my…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:19 PM
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> In their early 20s Sarah is likely making more money than Ben and she is at her peak SMV and RMV. Thousands of men want to sleep with her and marry her. She can experience all the so called Chads and Tyrone’s she wants. It doesn't look like that. And reading this I have a feeling that some of you really think that our lives get miserable once we hit 30. It doesn't. My life is much better now when I'm 28 than when I was 20. And it's not because of my man, he is great but I've been with him for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 06:04 PM
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