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How does that answer to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:40 PM

How is that relevant to my comment? Did I imply at any moment that anyone should stay forever in a sexless relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:28 PM

Yeah that is because the so called "blue pill" advice assumes that the guy has other incentives to be with his wife than sex and thus, keeping the relationship has value in his eyes. Otherwise indeed, just divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:15 PM
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I sweat to god this sub is becoming worse and worse (yeah it is possible apparently) with the shitty AI writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:41 PM
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I would be more interested in pursuing sex overall. Yes. With my partner and also when singlemb
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:49 AM
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This conversation is stupid and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:02 AM
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You'd have sex too if you end the relationship THEN have the sex with the person you were gonna cheat with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:59 AM
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If having sex with someone else is not something that is acceptable in a relationship for your partner, then this way of solving your problem will end your relationship with your wife anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:55 AM
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You never HAVE to commit adultery. You can always end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:43 AM
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Well nothing forces men to use apps with height sliders neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:40 AM
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So women should continue using an app that has something on it they don't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:08 AM
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Which behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:07 AM

It depends... passed 25, I know a lot of men who would see virginity as a problem in a potential relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:53 PM

I have no idea how your comment equate shared experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:50 PM

So it's not about shared experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:48 PM

he said that he preferred to learn together. Which does not make sense on the low body count part. Because a girl with a body count of 1, who stayed and had sex with her only partner for years will have a lot of experience. Possibly more than someone who had many ONS which, in my opinion tend to be extremely limited in offering space and opportunity to learn about what you like, experimenting, etc. Contrarily to long term safe relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:19 PM

That works only for low body count or virgin men who want someone with a similar sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:17 PM
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It sad to see a man's value through how easily he can get sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:38 PM
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Of course we can. Never argued it's impossible. It's just very far from being the default mode as many people commented here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:36 PM
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Its not one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:07 PM
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Yeah both of them are things that are possible thanks to evolution and impact or could impact evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:07 PM
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Ok... I'm not reading all moments ahaha. That's not important enough. tho i dont think she understands evolution as well as she thinks she does honestly. Yeah like 99% of people, including within the field of biology some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:59 PM
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have wildly different levels of understanding of how dependent they are and what they are dependent on. Wildly agree. Especially all the "entrepreneurs" crowd yapping about "self made alpha/girlboss". The concept of the fetichisation of commodities is quite useful to think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:43 PM
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Did she call men evolutionary dead ends or anything like that? Maybe I didn't read carefully enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:37 PM
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Humans, like most of our primate cousins, are almost certainly naturally polygynous. The general rule in our closest cousins is not polygyny nor polyandry but polygynandry... aka males mating with multiple females and females mating with mutliple males aswell. Additionally, human females have hidden oestrus, which is considered a good indicator of a promiscuous mating systems with paternal uncertainty as a strategy to lower sexual conflicts, infanticide and overall male aggression. Still, you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:26 PM
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It's because of the ability of social primates to form coalitions and perpetuate altruistic punishment. Not because it's fair but because It has consequences. We wouldn't need a justice system otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:28 AM
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No, you don't. You're comparing to the hostily of nature here...if humans were that cruel and unkind people would attempt to murder you on a daily basis. Do you think other social animals attempts to murder each others on a daily basis? We are going to the extreme opposite of naturalistic angelism here. You're taking for granted the structure of society. Claiming you're independent because you pay your own bills is like saying that food comes from the grocery store. It shows a deep lack of under…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:25 AM
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Us creating societies is a 100% evolution, and we developed traits that are specifically adapted to this. I don't know who promised women that they are owed shelter, food, clean water, electricity, etc. Why should men work to provide you with these luxuries? Those are not provided to women. They're provided to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:22 AM
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Who is saying anything about treating anyone as loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:19 AM
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She never said anything about "base instinct". We are animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:17 AM
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We are animals. Animals are capable of compassion and judgment. That's very useful traits adaptated to obligatory sociality. Where in OPs post does she speak about being shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:16 AM
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In nature, succumbing to our biology that you elevate, men are simply stronger than women and get their way unless they've secured a man to defend them. That's what our nature considers "fair." You don't know a thing about sociality in primates. We are highly social animals living in multimale-multifemale groups with cooperative breeding. Females can very well form coalitions with other females and other males to kickoff aggressive males who are problematic for the well being of the group. We're…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:12 AM
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They dont have to ask for it. They know they wouldnt like it and may not use the app anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:08 AM
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How is lying, manipulating, and generally acting as an asshole somewhat the pendant of what OP posted? Aka : not being interested in someone as a sexual and romantic partner, even if this person is a nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:06 AM
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From an evolutionary perspective, individuals who are part of a group able to cooperate and coordinate to develop and distribute medical technology have significantly more descendants at the end of the day. Consistent forced mating is not such an easy thing to achieve in a multimale-multifemale social group of primates. Coalitions are a bitch to strong mean monkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:02 AM
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Yeah... but they start drooling at the first sign of any beginning of a mammary gland.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:21 AM
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Historically, human females tend to have periods a lot later than this. Even later than now. Because food scarcity slows down development.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:19 AM
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I'm answering to a comment citing a tv show where theyre talking about someone in a relationship. Not "just met online".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:02 AM

Why would you date someone not worthy your time?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:22 AM

In the context of dating, i hope you only do it with people worthy of your time...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:58 AM

If you like someone, being with them is time we'll spent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:38 AM

Everyone "pays" with their time for a relationship... that's how relationships work. You have to spend time with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:37 AM

How is paying attention to your loved ones paying?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:35 AM
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That's a shitload of work. Look for a girl who can provide herself her own excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:00 AM

Biologically preveledges means nothing outside of how society is organized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:37 AM
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We are in nature. Society is what we developed in nature. To handle our sociality. There's rules, coalitions, support, defense, social punishment, etc. In most animal societies. And it varies culturally from species to species but even from troops to troops in a single population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:42 AM
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If you want to go that way, reproduction was out of reach a lot before for most men too. And still, everything happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:35 AM
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About the infertility, I'm not sure. As it is not necessarily the consequences of inbreeding. But all the rest is 1.01 populations genetics. The important concept here is what we call effective population size (Ne), which can be defined as the "genetic" size of the population (to make it simpler). In case of biased sex ratio, we have (with Nm the number of males and Nf the bumber of females): Ne = (4NmNf)/(Nm+Nf) So, in this case, Ne = (4100)/101 = 4. Which means your population of 101 individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:32 AM
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Where did she say orgasm was the engine of desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:12 AM
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You're not necessarily gonna get or "secure" a partner with skills. But it WILL help keeping a happy sex life in a long relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:11 AM
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Sincerely, shaving it off may indeed be an option but I wouldn't assume anyone to willingfully go through that. Men's body hairs mean they would be shaking their entire legs from ankle to ass, then their belly, then their torso, then their back and shoulders and neck. What a pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:57 AM
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I didn't like it. Got a boyfriend with a lot of it. It felt a bit weird at the beginning. I got used to it. Now I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:55 AM
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Because women are very hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:47 AM
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Yes. I'm doing it currently have done it before
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:47 AM
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Your subconscious does nothing. You evolved incentive salience for sugar because individuals with it reproduced more. The sweetness tastes good even without any energy density. That's how artificial sweetener works. I encourage you to read past the surface on these subjects. Its very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:21 PM
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Well, it's already waaaayy more than the general public. So cheers to you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:32 PM
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Why are you drawn to sugar pr fat heavy food? Because you know it's a big source of energy for your Krebs cycle or because it taste soooooooo good?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:32 PM
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Do you have a background in evolutionary biology? Asking because it's pretty rare to encounter posters with this fine understanding of the mechanisms. Especially in non specialized subreddits. Appreciated!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:45 PM
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Sex is biologically for making children indeed as an evolutionary function. Which is why, the innate desire for sex was the only traits that needed to be selected for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:44 PM
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Thank you for understanding my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:42 PM
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We don't need a desire to reproduce to reproduce. We just need a desire to have sex. And the evidence that we didn't evolve a desire for reproduction but for sex. Is that as soon as we were able to remove reproduction as a consequence of sex. We generally stopped reproducing but largely continued to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:13 AM
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The same that happens to an organism that reproduced. It ends up dying. But I know you're asking what happens to a populations made of individuals that don't reproduce, and the answer is obviously that it goes extinct. Still, you didn't get what my argument was about. In a nutshell I'm explaining that for organisms to reproduce, there is no need for the evolution of a desire to reproduce in the sens of a desire to have offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:47 AM
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That's not how evolution works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:08 PM
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None of that had anything to do with my comment. I did not at any moment imply any of the thing you speak about. If you want to do both side of the convo be my guest but there's no need for me to participate further
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:34 PM
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That is not what the conversation was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:31 PM
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Well, they'll be wayyy closer to equality based gender norms in a country where it's legal for them to chose what they wear. Which is why all welcome to them. With or without their niqabs or hijab.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:25 PM
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You can wear the hijab and want to have basic human rights at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:19 PM
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We are here talking about walking 10'000 steps a day. I'm talking to you about people from all around the worlds (africa, the us, Europe, asia, south america, etc) walking in the Bush 8 to 9 hours a day, 6 days a week and still managing to be fat. Hence, 10'000 steps is not gonna keep you fit and lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:07 PM
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What does origin has to do with anything? And research stations are international... more than half of us are from the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:44 PM
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If people can go against their very existing innate desire to absolutely stuff their face and lay down all day because "human smart, human control impulse", then it's for sure LESS difficult to go against a supposed innate desire to "have a family" or what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:41 PM
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I dont know what you mean exactly by stuffing your face? What kind of "eating habits" are you thinking of? Because I'm a biologist currently doing field work in the big wild African bush. We follow groups of monkeys for 8 to 9 hours a day, 6 days out of 7. We would think that anyone would be somewhat fit in these conditions right? Well a good 1/4 of the field assistants are fat, and half of us are fine but could probably lose a kg or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:39 PM
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I don't know why you're talking to me about gangbangs but I do know this conversation is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:11 PM
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Actually, eating as fucking much as the fat and sugary food you can land your hands on and moving as little as you possibly can are two desires that are VERY powerfully universal and VERY much evolutionary adaptive and VERY deeply biologically determined to the point that we have that in common with most vertebrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:07 PM
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There is no reason to think that the tendency of wanting to actually have kids as in being a parent was ever selected for, especially in males. The tendency to want and get sexual interactions is truly decoupled from fertility in humans only since 100 years max. So there's no reason to hypothesize that any other kind of traits would have been selected regarding fertility as there wouldn't be so much reproductive differential between the ones who want to mate and the ones who want to reproduce. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:00 PM
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Dude, doing 10'000 steps a day is not a guarantee to not be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:42 PM
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The "mass immigration" is also people who don't want to be in these countries for these specific reasons... ever thought about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:38 PM
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Which is quite funny in and for itself. So thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:10 PM
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Who did design these nervous systems?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:52 PM
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It should be discussed at the moment the decision to have children and to raise them in one way or the other is taken by the couple... until we as a society get out of the paid/reproductive labour dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:28 AM
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People have kinks... I'd not be able to bring him satisfaction about this kink. I'd also be worried that this kink may be a coping mechanism to a trauma or something that is very hard on him and thus, would be very attentive to him around this subject. How does he feel with his masculinity, his body, his gender, his position as a man in the world, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:27 AM
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How do you know? And the majority of what group of men? Internationally? All age class included?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:20 AM
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I really doubt it's "very few" to be honest. Maybe not the majority but its not as if they were some legendary creatures impossible to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:19 AM
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I will "not all men" here... There's also plenty of men who are not in any of the groups you mentioned. I know plenty of men who are not drooling over IG or OF models and would never pay for any nude... Men who are not showering random hotties with drinks at the club, nor paying for their expensive dinner on tinder dates. I do not know if theyre the majority or not, as we all tend to have a biased view of demography due to our own personal social environment but the men around me mostly aren't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:17 AM

If they don't die from measles...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:36 PM
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I swear to god the pop science evolutionary biology stated all in absolutes and in "every single species of mammals", etc. is giving me a headache first hand. I don't know why we kill ourselves working for peanuts and publishing papers all year long. All of that is known in detail by random people on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:07 PM
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Yeah cashiers try to sooth our mind when they ask for our IDs ans my son's teacher tried to make me happy when she asked him if he was taking a walk with his big sister when she saw us from afar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:18 PM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:17 PM
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Depends on the woman... I'm freshly 35, I look 25 and dress "young and comfy" (high waist baggy mom shorts like the girl in Jurassic Parc, fun shirts, fun socks and colorful sneakers, a bagpack and two braids or eventually space buns). My boyfriend is my age and also look quite young but really dresses like a teen (super baggy clothes, never wear anything else than sweatpants if he doesn't have to, caps or beanies, colorful sneakers). I would never date a 35 years old man who dresses like a "ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:15 PM
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Imagine you're a microbiologist specialised in bioremediation and you're looking for a job. You start to throw your application at every single open position that exist around you. Hairdresser, construction, neurosurgery, farmer, ecologist, mechanic, security officer, firefighter, secretary, nail artist, sound engineer. You don't even look at the positions, you just throw your application everywhere so you're sure that you don't miss an opportunity. Bigger the net, bigger the fish right? Well, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:23 PM
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Again, no one said "isn't atreactive" you're painting black and white on what is said
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:33 AM
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You have reading comprehension problems too. Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:17 PM
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Again, you're adding stuff. No one said anything about "wishing they could change".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:16 PM
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No, that doesn't mean that... Rejecting someone for "X" does not mean that you have zero attraction for the person with "X". Again, are you a robot?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:09 PM
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Try again. Suffering from a "lack" of something is defined as having NONE of it, or not enough of it. The fact that someone MAY be MORE attracted to their partner if "X" does not mean that without "X", there's NO attraction at all, neither not "enough" attraction. I'm very surprised I need to explain this to an adult man. Weren't you ever attracted to someone who could have been MORE attractive? All the persons you were attracted to in your life were at the absolute maximal Level of atractivity …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:06 PM
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We are cooperative breeders with concealed ovulation. It's a strong strong tool for paternal uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:49 PM

Which average woman? The absolute average woman is almost 40 for example. Are you asking about her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:21 PM
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I did. My boy is 164cm (I'm 165) I had an immediate crush on him because he's really freaking absolutely cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:18 PM
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I did. My boy is 164cm (I'm 165) I had an immediate crush on him because he's really freaking absolutely cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:17 PM
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Physical attraction cannot be reduced to ONE physical criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:15 PM
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Again, go back, read, and add so nuance. Even if your partner maybe would be MORE attracted to you if you were taller does not mean that your partner is NOT attracted to you (aka LACK of attraction).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:14 PM
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This absolute black and white thinking is ridiculous. Preferring tall over short does not mean you're not attracted to your partner who's not tall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:00 AM
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The strong patterns will be in relation with other sociodemographic categories. So "most women" as a general is useless to anyone. What age class? What countries? What socio-economics background? Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:11 PM
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Examples maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:06 PM
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Of course you don't. But these guies may like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:40 PM
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I'm horrified about the idea of getting dinner with someone i don't know well. It's way too long and formal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:52 PM
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3) they like to masturbate to porn because it has nothing to do with actual sex with someone. It's a completely different activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:51 PM

Once more for the thousandth time, it's not that look don't matter, it's that it doesn't matter above all, that it is not necessarily even an exclusion criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:47 PM
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Feminist != blue pill but thanks for the input
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:12 PM
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You're interacting with the content... that's why. I'm a huge feminist and I never see the kind of content you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:34 PM
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That's an argument for reading the bios in order to avoid these kind of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:05 AM
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I'd like to look like my boyfriend. Aka I'd like to look very cute and non threatening so not super tall or super bulky, skinny if possible. I'd like to have exactly the life career I have now as it's my passion. I'd pursue the same kind of relationship I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:51 PM
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Aren't we allowed to joke anymore? Jeez...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 05:33 PM
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You neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:13 AM
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Data or this does not exist. Sorry, I'm from the "rational" sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:12 AM
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Of course a lot of women are like that. A lot of people are like that. But most? Certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:26 AM
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100% i chose B
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:03 PM
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That's an experience I do not share. I had no problems finding these men and being attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:38 PM
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I don't think "most" men value these traits. I'm just not interested in men who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:11 PM
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No I don't, because different men will consider different things as characteristic of a "good gf/wife".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:07 PM
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Yeah... dating men is largely less attractive on average than dating women is... sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:06 PM
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Yes. And sometimes I have ZERO idea of why.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:07 PM
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I would think that it's sad that he felt like he had to lie about it. Now, as I do not care the slightest about his number of past relationship and understand that he may have felt self cautious about it in the beginning, to me, it would be a small and unimportant lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:05 PM
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You keep anwering things that are barely related to my comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:00 AM
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How did any of that countered the fact that there is a sample bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:25 PM
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You have a bias. It's hard to be a woman beater without a woman... so of course woman beaters are on average more likely to be in a relationship than a random guy. It's a bit like the stat01 example of peoples' paternal uncles having on average significantly less children than peoples fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:45 PM
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Coul. But the post is precisely about causality and the mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:34 AM

But the fact is that we've seen throughout history that promiscuous women have issues maintaining long term relationships, Could you reread this sentence you wrote? Because it sounds to me like "We've seen that people who travel every month have issues staying in the same place long term"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:45 PM
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Which has nothing to do with ones ability to pair bond decreasing due to repetitive bondings events.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:40 PM
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You clearly lack scientific litteracy...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:39 PM
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So, multiple findings showing promiscuous people being less faithful, more depressed, having a higher rates of STDs is just happening by accident? No it probably happens because these are associate to some specific common variable. To infer the beginning of a causation, you would have to follow people across time points and see how the increase of partners correlates with a change in pair bonding ability markers...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:38 PM
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None of that says anything about ability to pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:36 PM
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Maybe ask chatGPT better next time because this paper has nothing to do with ability to pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:34 PM
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Because if I depend from my boss for money, I depend from one person. If I depend from my guy for money, i depend from his boss to give HIM money, then from HIM to share it with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:18 PM
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So basically you're asking women why they prefer to depend on their boss rather than their husband boss right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:17 PM
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Because I fall in love with a guy... not everything is a calculated move in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:08 PM
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It's simply seen as shitty when there was obviously some intent to pretend something around commitment was there while knowing well that it was actually not the case. In my experience, men who are just interested in sex were mostly obvious to identify and most of the time would not openly pretend anything else. But I know that in some other social circles, some men can go far to get the sex they want... Of course commitment is not anything that anyone is entitled to. And men can change their min…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:27 AM
0

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:15 PM
4

Obviously sex is a positive incentive. But when we argue that sex is not a reward, we precisely argue that it is not something that is given as a reward. Food is an incentive, that does not mean that when someone gives you food, it's as a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:17 PM
1

Seeing Simeone "like that" is not about ticking boxes of "partner qualities" to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:22 PM
1

I don't agree fully. Some people prefer not to spend most of their time with their partner as a way of organizing their life. Maybe it's weird to get married in these case but hey... why not. For example, I really don't want to live with my partner. At least if we lived together, I'd want my own room.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:41 AM
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I don't know about marriage, but most of the rel as relationships I know with someone away for extended periods of time are in science and specially primatology. It's often the woman who's away for weeks to months for field work and they seek to indeed keep the flame more. I agree with you excitment part, it's also about energy. I feel like it's important to bring energy from outside in a couple. When you go away, you discover things, you have stuff to speak about, etc. But I also think that thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:37 AM
1

Why I'm response to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:00 AM
1

"Women" lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:43 PM
1

"Women in general" you live in your head and assume everyone is like your made it up in there. I'm not even American... Why would I be a fan of a shitty show?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:42 PM
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You can keep your "y'all". I'm not a tiny notch represented by what you said. My point is simply : if these guies were having a problem with hypergamy per se. They wouldn't be passport bro either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:35 PM
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How is going for guies from waaaayyy richer countries because they're way richer than their local men not "as hypergamous", "shallow", "vapid" than any of what passport bros say american women are doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:07 PM
1

Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:57 PM
1

I don't think anyone argued that it wasn't "easy" for women to have this position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:17 PM
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I didn't speak about evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:21 PM
1

Overall, I find the 30-40+ women going after 20ish guies really weird and quite predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:09 PM
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All right! Just a tiny detail about the "dominant" females in species with such male dispersal. Hierarchy is often nepotic in these groups, aka, the dominant females are dominant through their matrilines demand inherit their rank from their mothers. Also, leadership and dominance are not always correlated. I also don't like the "humans are supposed to...". We lack data for these assumptions. But I do agree that cooperative breeding in general throws OPs argument through the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:06 PM
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It's not true, there is a lot of natural selection operating. Just not on the same things as before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:59 AM
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Actually sexual selection is only about the ability to mate. The ability to successfully reproduce aka siring viable offsprings who will in turn reproduce is part of natural selection. And the subject of sexual selection being a different or subtype of natural selection is a big debate in evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:58 AM
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Er... the debate about sexual selection being a subtype of natural selection is still on in evolutionary biology. So I wouldn't be that definitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:52 AM
1

Yep. Conspicuous honest signaling!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:51 AM
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Reducing today’s dating landscape to “natural selection” is both scientifically inaccurate and intellectually lazy. Yeah appeals to "evolution" in these conversation are very often BS indeed. True natural selection rewards traits that ensure survival strength, intelligence, resourcefulness not just raw physical appearance. Wrong natural selection can select any trait that spread well. They don't have to be overall positive in our viewpoint. See vitamin C synthesis loss for example. In prehistory…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:50 AM
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Men pretending to care about men's issues who aren't selling anything (discord, "formation", shitty PDF "books") are very difficult to find. Should make something go "ding ding ding!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:24 PM
8

Are you gonna tell your father that mean girl don't want to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 04:52 AM
1

There is a lot of people into the world. You sharing experience even with millions of men does not make it universal in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:32 PM

Your lack of nuance is typical of 5 year olds... that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:03 AM
0

Ha ok so you just made that up. Got it thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:08 AM
2

Sorry but could you elaborate on what you categorize as these strategies and how they're represented in the animal kingdom?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:43 PM
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forcing many unrelated kids to cohabit is bound to become a clown show. You never heard of boarding schools, foster care, community living? It's normal for unrelated kids to cohabit. This idea of mom dad and their children sharing their day to day life with no one but themselves in their little homes is new and a blink in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:12 PM
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What are the data about 8 out of 10 of these families being toxic in some way? Because top of my head, I could say that about any kind of family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:05 PM
1

Ok cool at least we known we're talking about your tiny personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:54 PM
1

I'll put it another way. Maybe you should change your post then. Because you said that it is very rare that a woman involved with a man is not primarily interested in his ressources. Which is not the same. Women who get involved with men with no interest in resources or in him providing for them are the minority. And for this.. you obviously have data.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:37 AM
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there are women who go on dates just for free food. That's what you observed. A) There exist, women who will go on dates with guies to get a free meal out. B) Now, your opinion was that the vast majority (almost all actually) of women who are with a man, are primarily interested in enjoying his wealth, resources or free food. A does not constitute a foundation to support statement B. At all. Thus... the foundation of your opinion (B) remains... inexistant. This does not mean that A does not exis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:55 AM
1

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:18 AM
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Being in love with someone and having built a life, relationship and projects with someone you're in love with, having shared years of loving, soothing interactions and having these taken away from you are really really far from a similar feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:43 PM
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Did it ever occur to you that maybe you feel comfort in the idea that the men exhibiting these traits that makes them successful compared to you (in your own opinion) inherently also carry "bad" traits such as low empathy? Did you ever question how your observation may be biased by this comforting psychological coherence? To me, it seems like when some women insist that most beautiful and gorgeous women are necessarily superficial and dumb. It seems unfair that some people may be extremely attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:41 PM
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No one deserves or not deserve to be romantically rejected. Someone either feels romantically toward you or they don't. Kicking someone in the balls unprovoked is morally wrong. Not wanting to enter a relationship with someone is not. It's kind of crazy anyone needs to explain that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:36 PM
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Do you know what "somatosensory representation" is? And do you see any difference between your emotional state after someone tells you that they don't want to date you and after someone dumps your ass while in a loving relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:33 PM
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Which is not, in any way whatsoever the smallest indication that rejection may be compaared to getting unprovokedly kicked in the balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:29 PM
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What are your data supporting the idea that tall, confident and energetic men also tend to have low empathy and are not connected to their emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:22 PM
1

Who said that now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:45 PM
1

The fondation of your opinion on that is non-existent so again, there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:22 PM
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No I'm arguing that most women are primarily attracted by other things and only a minority of women are primarily interested in resources or the like. You can pretend whatever you like with zero data backing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:55 AM
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Either you have data on the fact that women are primarily interested by resources or it's your opinion and isn't worth a penny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:35 AM
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I'm sure you want to come and comment whatever sentences just to speak with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:33 AM

I'm just giving the data that are used in the Amazon book link you provided. In case people are actually interested in seeing what was found in this study on so many countries and individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:41 PM

Why not link the study itself... the one with all the data? here Edit : so for who is interested, the Buss study on more than 10'000 people and 37 countries show that men and women place priority on overwhelmingly similar features in their mating choice. The typical and non debated sex specific differences around finances, ressource, health, youth and physical appearance are mostly situated toward the middle and the end of the classification of what traits are the most important. Which is VERY d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:36 PM
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And what are women attracted to? Hint... you can check your own reference for that. buss study of 1990 on mating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:35 PM

Yeah our visible body is made of external features that are on the external part of our organisms... You know like outside, where the light can shine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:05 PM

All of which are... external features?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:40 PM
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It is very rare for you maybe...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:41 PM

Shhhhh... he's trying to look morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:15 PM

Which internal traits of women are men attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:09 PM

Your ability to interpret scientific data is obvious given your own post. Go back to the buss thing, and check your interpretation sugar...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:08 PM

Did you... post a screenshot of some health app or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:52 PM
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It's also a typically biased way of thinking to interpret any of these facts as females being choosy over males competing with each others and monopolizing females.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:52 AM
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1) I was not speaking about that. I spoke about before you even actually interact with someone. I was speaking about every informations an individual carries about themselves that you can see from afar... 2) it's cool we know about the halo effect but let's not pretend it works like that. It deviates your judgement of beautiful people's characteristics toward positive appreciation. Which is NOT the same as what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:28 AM
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But i promise you a shit ton of men would ruin a decent relationship if their favorite pornstar asked them to fuck. Probably, but luckily, there is enough who wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:01 PM
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Do you really think that you partner would leave right away in this scenario? Like really?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:59 PM
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No. There is a lot more than pure physical features that you get from seeing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:58 PM
1

Thank you for making your own sexual desire the universal male sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:56 PM
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Self-domestication is a term and a valuable hypothesis in biology. Specially regarding humans but also other highly social animals
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:42 AM
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Nope I also understand that they may not have met someone they were interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:45 PM
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I feel like listing pro/cons about someone is maybe even more objectifying than numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:11 AM
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I understand that there is a "gradient" of "handsomness" that I tend to call "conventionally attractive". But I'm either attracted or not attracted. My attraction could be on a spectrum. Like "Hu I like the guy, he's super cute and I feel all light hearted when I think about him" or "Hu I like the guy, maybe I should talk to him morr" are not the same. But it's not the guy who would be a 6 or an 8. It's my level of attraction. And this can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:08 AM
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Depends on where you live I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:30 PM
1

Getting 4 to 6 clients a month that are vetted is really not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:59 AM
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But to get the same equivalent of money (let's say 2K€) doing prostitution where you have a website and ads online and chose your clients that you meet at hotels you have to do 6 to 10 hours (rate is 200-300€ an hour). If you have good clients that you know and will bring you to the restaurant too and book 3-5 hours at a lower rate (often 500-600 for a whole evening) you can see like 4 of them a month. That's 10 times better than actually go live full time with someone you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:30 AM
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Unless we're speaking about trafficked prostitutes in awful brothel conditions, 100 clients a month is a revenue of 10 to 30K a month. It's not a typical rate for prostitutes out of the streets and I bet your middle to high class dude is not giving the girl that much money right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:21 AM
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My comment was that no one would pay 130K a month for a GFE. Because what OP proposes is 24/7 work. And in order to be "better" than traditional prostitution it would need to be paid at least as much per hour (actually more I'd say).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:14 AM
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Because it's not something you do 8 hours a day. If you want to make 4 clients a day, you'll need infrastructure or a brothel or something to handle all the client stuff. Your hour rate will then sensibly go down anyway. The "nice" sex work that has a high time/money revenue is something you do go get some money to bridge ends or live a little more comfortable next to the actual bill paying activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:37 PM
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Dude... sex work can be around 200€ an hour where I live if you're relatively pretty (not speaking about model level. Do you think any guy is gonna pay 130K a month for a GFE?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:19 PM
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The absolute worst thing about sex work is speaking with them and pretending to enjoy their company. You're proposing a lot more of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:13 PM
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Or men. Sex specific dispersal is a thing, but it can go either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:03 PM
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And you have a stinky peepee
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:17 AM
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Your points are just bad and badly expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:48 AM
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Depends on the women. A subgroup of people in society cares about social status and wealth a lot. Another subgroup not at all. Which one did you want to interact with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:31 PM
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Because I do not understand his statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:52 PM
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Also, you can see these people have a specific ideology in mind because they always leave out that in hunter gatherer societies, malineality and female philopatry was usually the default setting because it makes sense in a socio-ecological point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:44 AM
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Where does that "theory" come from? I cannot find it anywhere, not even in shitty pop evopsy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:41 AM
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I; would say that if my only contact with men was this subreddit I would enter a coven.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:23 PM
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I'm surrounded by great men. Clever men. Nice men. And generally, intelligent, sensible, and great people. This subreddit didn't "teach" me anything new. But it reminded me that I'm lucky, and that it's not all men...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:37 PM

The tall white man does not have a personality? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:18 AM

I don't even know who you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:01 AM

Yeah... if I look around me everyone is a scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:00 AM

You do realize what the "average" is and represent? You realize that the "average" can very well represent NO ONE? Collect the coordinates of everyone living in Mediterranean countries. You'll see that people "on average" live in the middle of the sea. Probably mermaids!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:56 AM

You literally said she married a tall white guy to say : "See! SHE also like tall guies! What a hypocrite embracing gender roles in dating!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:51 AM

On what are you basing your idea that feminists are the ones most enforcing these "dating roles"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:49 AM
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Nah... parentality reveals very surprising parts of someone's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:47 PM
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Yes sure. But you will MAKE the child with a male. Now, referring to the post, if you're intentionally single mom, you don't care about becoming the default pare t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:46 PM
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If you want to have kids, you're gonna have to have them with males. Now yes, as a woman, if you're not ready to become the default parent, you're taking a lot of risks by having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:10 PM
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Yes. As long as there exist replicators that are not exact clones and that replication rates are not absolutely maintained the same among them, evolution (the change in the composition of the population along generations) is necessarily happening. It's literally an emergent property of the existence of variable replicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:22 AM
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Anyway.. let's say it wasn't Ai... Say, is it the primary goal of every organism/species to procreate? We can't really say that. I know it feels like splitting hairs but it's important to define what a "goal" is. Evolution has no goal, it is a blind process. The only reason organisms are adapted around procreation is because procreation is by definition what makes them still exist through time. This video (and the whole serie by the way) that is not even from a biologist is one of the best way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:46 AM
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It's not really that it is well written. It is specific sentences and the fact that on the contrary, it takes overcomplicated path to say basic things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:24 AM
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That said, if someone uses ChatGPT or AI to better articulate their point of view, does that then negate the validity of said point of view? Yes it does because I have no way of knowing how much of it is actually what you actually understand. So I can't know where you stand exactly. So it renders the discussion useless. If it's your point that you gave AI just so it could "articulate it better", then just put your prompt with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:20 AM
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I bet there is more than two different groups of any kind of people...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:16 AM
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You do. And that is really disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:06 AM
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Ok I don't really want to spend effort in a discussion where the other one uses ChatGPT .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:43 PM
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That's a trick question. It's only at the beginning of my master specializing in evolution and behavior, after a strong bachelor in biology, that I actually started to understand the complexity of the subject. The most important thing is that we stop selling the "cartoonish" simple version of the theory evolution to the public like we do today. I mean, it's ok to simplify when popularizing, but currently, I feel like we do not emphasize enough how "actually, it's a LOT more complicated than that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:29 AM
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You're talking alone here dude... rambling even. Of course I hit on guies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:58 PM
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Wtf are you talking about? You spoke about trying to date someone who purposely tried to make it hard aka who does not want to date you. I don't see how anything in this comment relates to that? Do you think I never got anxiety when hitting one guy or making a move? I don't get your point... like at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:50 PM
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How would you know ffs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:36 PM
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It's not... no one forces you to interract with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:35 PM
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I think I understand natural selection quite well, it's what I'm reading, writing and experimenting about every day. What I also understand is quantitative and population genetics and the fact that a highly polygenic trait controlled by probably hundreds to thousands of genes interacting with each others is gonna be experiencing the effect of many opposing selective pressures. Because most of these genes are gonna be pleiotropic. Thus, the value of such trait in a population can not be expected …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:34 PM
3

So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:46 PM
4

Obviously... if someone tries to make it harder for you to date them, it means they don't want you to date them. So why would you date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:28 PM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:23 PM
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They don't care and will say that it's false and that you are actually above average because they cannot accept they may be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:21 PM
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Are you sure the words in your comment are in the intended order?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:09 PM
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No, evolution is not that simple, especially not when talking about extremely plastic and polygenic continuous traits like personality types or "behavioral syndromes". This is a huge simplification of evolution that is very misleading and factually wrong. Additionally, "for most personality traits studies find heritability estimates from 60 to 80% " does NOT in any way mean that 60 to "80% of personality is genetic." Again, extremely misleading and misinformation claim based on I guess, pop scie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:07 PM
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That's not how the evolution of traits like these work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:18 PM
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I don't see how they're connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:14 PM
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Not the first time I read that from you here. Not the first time I'm like "yeah exactly, someone got it." But no... they want to pursue some idea of a "general" woman, with whom they can manufacture their pick up strategy using "stats" and "averages". It's not working, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:13 PM
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Not every but most... if we count sexual animals of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:08 PM
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It does not. The men who use sex work in all forms the most are the ones who can't think about anything else than women and thus, give them this "power".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:48 PM
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You're just making up claim with no arguments to support them. The baseless claims are then literally your arguments. It's not a debate, it's a waste of server space.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:10 AM
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You people really live in a children book from the 50s US... do the feminine women wear white apron too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:05 PM
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Feminity: doing the dishes, baking a cake, being submissive, having a ... nurturing (???) presence. Well... f*** me...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:02 PM
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And again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:46 PM
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Never read anything like it. By the way you just loudly tell me your political opinions unprompted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:27 PM
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So obviously not? Also... how would you do such a thing like, in a first sight, profile or very very first meet visible way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:35 PM
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What is virtue signal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:23 PM
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I'm quite the radical leftist. We tend to signal to each other quite obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:47 AM

Sexual dimorphism and intelligence have nothing to do with each others. It's simply that diminution in sexual dimorphism tend to indicate diminution of sexual conflict. Aka, the incentives of males and females are more in tune. This tend to happen in species with multi-male-multi-female societies or fission-fusion societies where interindividual cooperation between the sexes is important for survival. These species tend to evolve mechanisms that reduces sexual-conflicts such as monogamy, family …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:27 AM

My boyfriens is unemployed. I don't care. But generally, I don't care about money in life. If I have food and a roof secured, I can have my fun for cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:36 AM

Monogamy tend to greatly reduce the differences in reproductive fitness interests between males and females, which directly reduces sexual conflicts that can become costly at the species level. Monogamous species tend to have lower level of maternal silencing than non-monogamous representant of their lineage, which supports this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:26 AM
2

I can't really explain it. It's not about ticking boxes, that's for sure. I've not fallen in love with guies ticking all the theoretical boxes and I've fallen in love with guies who don't. Sorry that I can't really help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:25 AM

Hu... no... quite the opposite. A major side of my libido problems when they arise come precisely from the fact it kills my mood that my stupid body is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:58 AM
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Maybe, I don't know, I do not fall in love or get attracted to every men I'm friends with, even if most of them are attractive. Attraction is also something people feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:55 AM
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More word salad. Something being conditional does not make it fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:57 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:25 AM

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:46 PM

Alors every link that you posted cite the fact that women have more domestic responsibilities as one of the first possible reason for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:10 PM
0

How could I have a guess about half the fucking world population?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:46 PM
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It depends on which woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:52 PM
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So we basically agree. No we don't. If I say most men just want to rape children and you tell me that there exist, probably, some men that wants to rape children, we do not agree. You know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:30 PM
10

And more "most" blabla without any backing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:44 PM
12

Well you're the one saying "most", "many", or "the average women" or even just "women". So you know... it's on you to back it up. If your question now just changed to "is there women who base their love on finance and ressource", I guess yes. There is probably women who base their love on dancing moves too. Humans are diverse. And yes, even if it's 0.05%, it will be "many". There's a shitload of Homo sapiens on this little globe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:58 AM
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No it's not. You're getting these statement out of your κωλαράκι with nothing to support it. So I can refute them the same. It's not true. Love is something complex, it will be a bit different for everyone, but it is not tight to finance and resources for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:52 AM
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Everything. It is not very rare for a woman to really love their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:31 AM
0

Are you really THAT thick? How would the comeback work if she said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:11 AM
7

A yes... el famoso "biological imperative". Men "biological imperative" is what? Kill all males in order to impregnate every female around?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:08 AM
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It's very rare for a woman to genuinely love her partner. Source : your ass I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:06 AM
1

The plural of anecdote is not data.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:55 AM
1

How is the view from the bottom of the universe' belly button?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:53 PM

Your post says two things. "Conventionally hot" and "Hollywood body". Which one it is that you are actually talking about? Because what you describe (not eat too much and move your ass a bit) will NOT result in Hollywood level of body hotness (even if we put face, boobs and butt aside).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:55 AM
1

And you know that because? You have access to the mind of most men in the whole world? Crosscultural and all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:21 PM
1

Ah yes thank you for your informed input. I needed an online guy from another country to explain to me what my dear close friends from several years actually do believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:25 PM
1

No dude... for YOU it's that simple. Not every man is half a robot. Women are not a monolith but you guies should start to learn that men aren't either. Most men I know would feel so insulted by what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:50 PM
2

I disagreed with every parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:01 PM
1

I don't really do small talk. And I'll definitely not have a hookup after small talk. What I describe is that you can see that someone has the potential of being a friend quite fast when you're yourself investing in the interaction and not being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:19 PM
2

No they do not. It's actually their only window to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:13 PM
1

It really sounds like you live in the middle of the most boring and socially conforming individuals in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:12 PM
1

Ah yes, engaging in these kind of manipulative tests is exactly how you treat friends... jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:11 PM
2

and men and women tend to have very different interests and experiences. Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:07 PM
1

What do you bound over with your male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:03 PM
1

Usually "hookups" were proceeded by a night out with discussions, laugh and fun. Which, you know, happen when you connect on some level beside wanting to fuck a nice body.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:01 PM
2

I do have the same hobbies and interests than my male friends. Or at least i find their hobbies and interests interesting and vice-versa... If you guies are so sure that all women like fashion and gossip while all men like sports and vehicles maybe the problem is that you are and are surrounded by uninteresting people who are just social conformists clichés.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:58 PM
5

Speak for yourself. Not all men and not the majority of men are what you describe. And I'm glad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:52 PM
4

Maybe it's the only friendship women around you had to offer to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:49 PM
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Get out of here with your stupid concept of genuine human connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:48 PM
1

Because normal people do not have female friends in order to fill the category "female friends" they just are friends with PEOPLE that happen to be female. Wtf with the box ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:47 PM
3

That is you stating "facts" that are just your own life. My boyfriend is surrounded by pretty girlfriends, my friend circle is filled with pretty girls and pretty boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:46 PM
3

So you basically feel romantically about every average and nice woman you know? If it's the case, how do you not still fall in love with every girls when you're in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:41 PM
1

This implies that falling in love or developing romantic feelings is a question of ticking boxes. Which it is not. Someone can tick all of your desired boxes and you can still not feel "that way" about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:40 PM
2

Monogamy tend to lower sexual conflicts evolutionary speaking. That's one of the argument I can see for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:30 PM
2

Uh... sorry but I'm 35 and we were in the middle of social media, online dating and feminism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:45 AM

>I just lacked the ability to produce ejaculate. So according to your own definition of "orgasm" as inherently linked to ejaculation and reproduction, you did not, actually "had all of the male parts and process required for a male orgasm" and thus, did not experience any orgasm during this period.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:47 PM

> Wouldn't you expect them to look exactly the same, if they were the same process? No you wouldn't because there is differences in average male and female brain activations patterns in almost everything. Things don't have to be exactly the same in every marker for them to be, actually the same process.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:45 PM

Yes every concepts in biology are arbitrary. You take something and define it, and it's blurry around the edge. Did you just discover that the world was complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:43 PM

There isn't ALWAYS a refractory period... like... In men? I met my share fare of guies who could easily continue to go without a break nor going soft after coming..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:41 PM

The "pleasure" side of male orgasm has the same "evolutionary purpose" as every "pleasure" stimuli : drive individuals with decision-making abilities toward fitness imperative behavior. You like sugar because individuals that like sugar a lot ate and searched for sugar more and thus had better survival and more descendant. You like sex because individuals who liked sex had more sex or seeked more sex and thus, reproduced more. There is no reason that this pressure was counterselected in females …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:40 PM

Then, aside from ejaculation, you do not know if men experience orgasm either. Only ejaculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:16 PM

Where, what are the issues and on what body of scientific work do you base it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:14 PM
3

What are you shocked about precisely?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:59 AM

There is a refractory period in women orgasms. It's just shorter and less intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:58 AM

As male and female reproductive tissues and organs are developmentally differentiated only, even if you were fully right that there is 0 physiological process associated with female orgasms, it would still be perfectly possible that human females orgasms exist as a vestigial process of common features. The same way males have nipple that are useless. In this context, the fact that human females reach orgasm through clitoridal stimulation only makes sense as the tissue of the clitoris are precise…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:54 AM
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Children need adults in their lives. They need a secure and constant set of adults to care for them, support them, teach them, and accompany them in becoming adults and members of society. My opinion (somewhat backed up by different fields of development focused sciences) is that the more diverse this set of adults is, the better the outcome as they can all bring up elements specific to their social and personal position. So yes, I think children need males as daily caretakers around them. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:47 AM

Hahaha I wonder where I fit as a party hard, fry my brain if I want, passionate scientist with only long term relationships with broke and fun guies and a very vanilla sexuality. Am I "in these streets"? Which streets?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:00 AM

You're literally talking about eight different actions- none of which align with "normal," or typical behavior. This... it's pretty clear that the only thing these have in common is that they are situations that made it to the front page of the news. Which is very telling on OP talking most of his views on other people from the internet, not real life. It's kind of wild that someone would take news events and infer "normalcy" from them when obviously, if it's in the news, it's probably not commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:49 AM

Everything in this discussion is until someone pulls out data. One day... I'll do it. I'll sample this part of reddit and give it a nice little shake up with plots and all. Not today, as I have more interesting monkey data on my plate. But one summer day of boredom, I will do it. It will be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:19 AM

I think you are right on everything BUT porn. I think we have good data now that watching porn is common for most western country women today. Not as widespread as it is in men (but this may be partially because of the lack of offer directed to a woman public) but still not "rare".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:19 AM

You made a list of both pretty common (watching porn) and extremely niche and rare (getting peed on by rich celebrities) and came to the conclusion that women in here are shy introvert and the minority because they... don't belong to this weird group that you just made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:11 AM
1

Provide some source, papers and your interpretation of their models' predictions then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:13 AM
1

I guess it depends heavily on what we call "value" .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:01 PM
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You don't understand what I wrote. I do not compare people on an essential notion of "value". I don't consider people I want to have sex with as more valuable nor do I consider people with whom I don't less valuable. Most importantly, I do not think individuals have any inheren general "value".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:29 PM
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I don't compare people on some kind of essentialisation of "value"...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:11 PM
1

I'm swiss and living in switzerland, I hang up with quite young people and see then every day at university. This is not a common thing. And the stats do not support that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:17 PM
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I have niche taste I guess. Swipe on very few guies. Also, once I'm exchanging messages with one, beyond "hey how are you". I'm not swiping anymore. It feels weird going after several person's at the same time. We probably have very different ways of using ODS.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:48 PM
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you are misunderstanding the main point of self improvement and fitness- it’s for yourself Don't you dare bring up living a life worse living... come one now! This is a serious discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:12 AM
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Seems like you decided how everyone works. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:03 AM
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If the person you are with doesn't make your life better or if another person will give you better life than your partner, then you should be justified to leave. Yes...? I don't see how that rely to my comment. Someone not making effort is a reason to leave. The reason for making effort shouldn't be that otherwise your partner would leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:57 AM

I agree on that, beside extremely extremely rare special cases, it's probably almost never the case that a woman would specifically prefer a tiny penis than an around average one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:53 AM

You are lying... TO YOURSELF! sorry, I think this sub is making me mad as a hatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:52 AM

You all spend a LOT of time trying to replace people in their own heads for no reason at all. I'm not a guy but small perky boobs are OBVIOUSLY a whole preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:51 AM
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Long term relationships where individuals put effort for the sole reason that they feel at risk to be "replaced" are not good relationships either. If you think it's either one or the other... why do you want a relationship at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:48 AM
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Sorry but... why do you think it's important to have long term relationships if that's how you see them? Who wants that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:46 AM

Stfu... most men I know closely have cried in front of me, including my boyfriend. I didn't lose any respect for them. And I didn't lose attraction for my boyfriend either. And he has cried quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:34 PM
0

Maybe read some feminism work?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:37 PM
2

I'm not really comfy with phone call and facetime. I really prefer to see someone face to face. Also, I'm not going to 3 dates a week. I go the rare time someone seemed cool and that's it. Serial dating is fully alien to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:25 PM
1

If i don't think about going to see him after our first few conversation by text, then more conversation by text will not help. Indeed, I don't have the time to text all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:10 PM
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You can chose whatever you want as a partner. But implying that a certain subset of people should not date altogether is such bullshit. I don't care about broke. I'm glad to get beers from the supermarket and drink them at the lake if it's too expensive for someone at the bar. Let people date if they want and who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:36 PM
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The ones who genuinely can't afford to date should maybe get their lives together first. Fuck that. People can do whatever they want. Broke people date, broke people are not necessarily shitty slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:06 PM
0

You can just ask if he's broke or not... no need for him to pay to signal it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:05 PM
3

It's like they never... like... connected with people?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:02 PM
2

Wtf are you talking about? In case of Online dating, I'll match a guy, exchange some messages and then, propose to go out for a beer to meet. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:01 PM
1

Where did he say he refused to do anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:54 PM
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So far, you are explicitly refusing to do the things that would make a man a prize. PAYING???? Jesus girl... why do you even want a partner? Get a sugar daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:52 PM
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This is where you show why the other person should care. By taking out your wallet? 🤢 it’s to figure out whether you see her as a long-term asset, and whether you are willing to be active in a relationship. If a guy think about me as an asset, I'd rather never see him again. And seriously, so a broke guy cannot be willing to be active in a relationship? Come on, people's conversation and general acting will tell you a LOT more about that than a credit card sweep. Seriously, that is so awfully cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:48 PM
7

And you should... because that is despicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:42 PM
2

I don't, am I not a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:41 PM
2

A proxy for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:41 PM
4

I wonder why I got so lucky, maybe the indication was there from the start? Yeah it's like you're dating women from your "tribes" and not random pretty enough women. But they don't want to accept this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:40 PM
1

Yes... and if it's the case be the change you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:39 PM
5

People don't want children and people don't marry but still live live together as if they were married. Scientific fact is that marriage is low and birthrate too. Your interpretation of it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:40 PM
7

If the idea of a CEO person makes me puke?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:38 PM
1

Do you think that woman have more of a certain negative behavior and tactics than men due to just evolution?! I think that science is not interested in answering such broad and badly defined questions. So anyone pretending to use "scientific concepts" to engage in this discussion would have a high potential of being full of shit. As an evolutionary biologist and a woman I have two broad advice : there is 2 main ways of being very very wrong about evolution. 1) The old style social science way, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:08 AM
1

Well as an evolutionary biologist... be wary of people who only speak about evolution in very particular set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:05 AM
1

Anyone who is referring to themselve or to any other human being as high or low value is someone I want to stay as far away as possible. I would really really prefer not to share a group with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:36 PM
2

You're living in a parallel reality dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:27 PM
2

Ha yes sex work is absolutely not shamed. Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:02 PM
2

Who said anything about fairness? And you know that prostitution is legal in many places... does it change anything? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:54 AM
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Gold diggers are objectifying men in a way for their ressources. Yes. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:07 AM
1

So felons attract women unless they're autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:37 AM
1

Autistic men are not at a reduced probability of being felon. So en masse, they can perfectly be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:27 AM
2

This is something that make sens. Where I live, people go out, in parks, at the lake, at cafes. They go for a swim after work, they go for a little bike tour, etc. It makes everything a lot more convivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:06 PM

Autistic men can very well attract women, and can also be felon or bad people you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:25 AM
4

Get out of here being happy and everything. You're miserable! Don't you dare think otherwise. If you're not a 18 year old with the tightest pussy in the universe gathering resources and deep dicking from 6666 Chad's that you can throw away anytime you want, then, you are miserable or coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:09 PM
1

Nah... its most heterosexual women. Because things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:05 PM
2

They see every situation as a power dynamic. While it's true that there is a power dynamic in every situation, there isn't someone interested into taking power in each of these situations. But THEY would take advantage of this power, and think it means EVERYONE WOULD. I guess they feel bad about that, deep down, and they use this idea that everyone would do the same to ease that feeling. That's a shame, because if they do feel bad about that deep down, it means they could be otherwise. They saw …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:29 PM
1

Yes and guess what. There is people, who dont need to be impeach to do something not to do it. And not because they're better people fundamentally, but because that's literally NOT what they want to do in life. To me, I guy worthy of a relationship is someone that, at a fundamental level, does not have any interest in having "prime pussy" or I don't know what ridiculous shit you all will come up with. I expect FAR more from people I give time, attention and support to. Like I have no interest in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:20 PM
2

If what he wants is prime pussy, his not in the category of guies that are good for relationship. So again, this solves that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:47 PM
6

"Solid social network of valuable and supportive people"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:46 PM
2

There is a huge come back in creationism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:45 PM
5

I bet You know as much about biology as I know about quantum mechanics. And that's not a lot...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:28 PM
5

A full on Christian arguing on evolutionary psychology is a great premiere to me. Funniest shit ever. Don't you know evolution is a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:24 PM
5

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/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:22 PM
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You'd be surprised. The type of women happy to be single rather than with shitty partners are very much the type with strong hobbies and passions, solid social network of valuable and supportive people and thus, are truly able to be very happy single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:17 PM
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If a guy's goal is to use the fact he's under demand to get whatever he want from women at any price and replace them at the first point... he's not part of the worthy one for relationship so ya know... this solves that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:15 PM
1

It's simple, if orgasm is not very easily attained just by PIV, then, if we dont do something else that makes me orgasm, I will lose interest in having sex altogether. Neither my partner nor I want me to lose interest in sex altogether, so we have sexual activities that will give me orgasms often, in addition to PIV and other things that will give my partner orgasms. Unfair or not unfair is not the question. It's also unfair that PIV gives orgasm to men so much easier. We just work around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:03 PM
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The studies you speak about have often misleading titles and abstract. They do not show that men prioritize beauty and women prioritize money and status. Not in the sense that it's the most important thing to them. Which is what a priority is. What they show, is that compared to men women give more importance to status and vice versa. Which is a very different conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:50 AM
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I don't see how you equated a woman wanting someone entertaining == a woman wanting someone funnier, more intelligent, etc than her. How did you decide on this fundamental assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:56 AM
1

Using a gif from a scene where a girl actually pretends that she's happy about being with a Chad, while she's in an insane turmoil is chef's kiss...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:26 PM
8

If the 5 % account for all male humans from age 0 to death... just by being interested in your own age classes +/- 5 years already mean you're attracted to what 10-20% of the population at most today...add to that at least a bit of other criteria and you're easily down to 5%...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:12 PM
3

What will this revenge be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:53 PM
7

Yeah as a biologist I think the modern generation LOVES to appeal to biology to give credit to their opinions and ideology but are way to lazy to actually to their homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:22 PM
10

How is any of that purely biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:21 AM
1

Social power to do what? What's the use of the power we got thanks to my snarky comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:00 AM
3

You seem like a very grounded and emotionally stable person and for me, all of it would have been more green flags than red ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:06 AM
3

I'm very found of some of my exes. And I may have little stars in my eyes when I speak about them. Because I think they're great persons and I recall great moments with them. I wouldn't have this kind of conversation in dates at the beginning of the dating period but I mean, if the other person is asking questions, they'll end up getting answers...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:04 AM
1

No, it's actually a green flag for me. I mean, you shared a good portion of your life with someone. I hope you have a high opinion of this person. Unless there was some mean shit going on like abuse, etc. If things happened like you said, I feel like this woman was a bit insecure and shouldn't go around asking questions she can't handle the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:02 AM
0

What power?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:37 AM
7

Tbf only a small minority of men run companies and countries a A small minority of women controlling men running companies and countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:08 PM
11

I'm mocking you, not manipulating you honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:23 PM
13

Everyone seems to let men in charge. But you, other men, should be wary that it's actually some women in the shadow controlling them and thus, by extension, you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:09 PM
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We really shouldn't let men run companies and countries then, If they're so predisposed to being manipulated by women under the cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:06 PM
0

What is the proportion of the human female population Who is hot AND at the comic con? Like 666 men i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:26 PM
1

Yeah the limiting factor probably lies more there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:39 AM
7

The fact you say it's almost "IMPOSSIBLE" to find a woman without a dog says a LOT about the rest of the usual arguments on how its "IMPOSSIBLE" to find a woman who's not a gold digger or who doesn't want a 666 guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:51 AM
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Ahahaha agree so much. The guy is spending too much time thinking about a women's "primal sexual desire" for "such an alpha male with a great career and big muscly protective providers arms." I can write the rest of the novel. "Amanda couldn't stop herself, her panties slightly wet, but imperceptibly. It was her DNA screaming inside here. Her feminist upbringing, usually so strong at silencing this hum, deep in her entrails. It was useless now. The Man radiated resources and power. The other mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:45 AM
2

He's describing a situation where there is no feeling on one side and "chemistry" and "primal desire" on the other. Even if the guy was poorer and uglier she should leave to go with someone she's attracted to... wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:30 AM
2

Your question is literally :"You're with a dude you don't case about and fall fully in love with another. One is poor and average, the other is rich and handsome. Do you stay with the one you don't care about?" Relationship don't work like that. "You can't help the primal sexual desire for s8ch an alpha dude..." did you write that with only one hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:26 AM
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Bravo bravo building that for yourself. I hope you'll enjoy it as long and strong as possible. I feel that kind of privilege too, I live in a 3 story old house in a semi-country side village close to the city where I do the science I love. I live there with 6 other women (one only part time as she travels constantly), the youngest is 22, the oldest 65 (just retired). We have a beautiful garden, an outground little pool and a lot of joy and peace. All of that for super cheap because sharing is ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:54 AM
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"Innocent men" 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:45 PM
1

Dark sasuke energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:17 AM
1

Did you look at the questionnaire in the study linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:23 PM
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I don't know about women as a whole, but personally, it's science, my education and the well being of my close friends/relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:01 PM
1

I like going for a coffee or some beers in the end of the afternoon/beginning of the evening. If we get along super well and want the date to expand, we have room to do it and if it's not going so well, it's easy to say bye after The first round. Cheap, practical and safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:59 PM
1

She then told me what my IDEAL girl would look like or be at the moment I told her that if I had a GIRLFIREND she’d dress nice and be physically fit so no fat and not be much of a talker, then she said and???…. Here, right on the screen. Happy? Maybe take your own advice honey boy. THEN he goes yada yada about starting off... So I repeat, in a different wording for you love. He spoke his truth, he spoke about his ideal girl and a potential girlfriend, not some chick he may be willing to go on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:16 PM
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No... it's just that love is not common sense. Neither is friendship. You can LEAVE a relationship, despite being in love, thanks to common sense. You can decide to not enter a relationship despite the love or the crush, thanks to common sense. But you can't enter a relationship through common sense. Not if you pretend that it is based on love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:31 AM
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Talk for yourself. The men I fell in love and had relationships with were quite diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:27 AM

Maybe it's you who's simply not lovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:19 AM
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He was answering about IDEAL girl and HE said my GIRLFRIEND would be this and that. The starting off part is just him trying to hit the branches down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:04 AM
1

Thanks for the clarification then. It doesnt change a millimeter of my answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:23 PM
1

What are you talking about. Do you think "lonely" was the part of the description that made me doubt they would be fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:12 PM
3

Both kind of guise you described sound like the worst nightmare ever. I'd rather be single and never touch a guy ever again than chose one of them as a companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:11 PM
3

The hot guy was also the nice guy in titanic...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:58 PM
3

every instinct wired into them by evolution and they just don't want to. What instincts and through which traits are they wired into human females? What were the evolutionary pressure to select for these traits? What's the extent of the polymorphism in human populations for these traits? By what mechanisms are these traits strongly favored in females but not in males? How these traits achieve not being passed down to the male offsprings of the females who have them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:57 PM
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The bad guy isn't fun for long periods. But the "lonely, desperate men out there that would worship the ground a woman walks on in a relationship with them" are? What is this absurd dichotomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:53 PM
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"Ideal" partner is a rational idea about what we think would be good qualities. In reality, love and crushes often happen in very unexpected ways toward unexpected people. I don't go around with a checklist chosing who I engage with socially, be it on a friendship or a romantic space.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:44 PM
1

There is a tendency for sure. But you can't compare violence between two groups when one of these is not in power to be violent. You can't compare ability and willfulness of taking care of the weak, young and the elderly when one group was socialized for that and the other against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:12 AM
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Because of gender norms. It's not inherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:12 AM
1

Then it's a big plus. I mean I can raw fuck with my man AND be clean after that? Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:06 PM
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Everything is working its just the urethra that get out under the balls right? For sure... don't see how it would affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:05 PM
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You still have plenty of games with hot characters that are ultra sexualized. You could also learn mod if this is SUCH a problem that not EVERY SINGLE GAME YOU COULD PLAY is filled with bouncy asses and perky boobies. Why don't you go play sims 4 so you can make your own hot character and makes it "whouhou" in the shower? Cry me a freaking river.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:58 PM
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I'm not surprised ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:27 PM
3

Monogamy and a world where most men have a wife and a family is impossible and impractical because of biological realities. The stronger, bigger, taller and more violent men are perfectly able to bash the skull of all the other men and gather all the women for themselves. Any social structure that tries to ensure that stronger, taller bigger and more violent men are artificially kept from doing that will usually lead to giving weak, small and non-violent men extra rights and a game of double sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:15 PM
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YOU leave our games alone! We are VERY happy with diverse characters men OR women. So stop whining about the fact they're not hot enough and go play games where the characters are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:12 PM
0

Oh my god.... Did feminists.... STATE THEIR OPINION? What on earth?! The audacity!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:11 PM
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You know perfectly well that game sales go down to record lows because companies publish half assed unfinished games that they over advertised that you will less and less own for real. The game sales go down because skid row works very well when you get less and less for the same money. The game sales go down because people start to understand that consoles sales and development is starting to look like Apple Iphone and that they rather make you pay every 6 years for piece of plastic that is on …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:06 PM
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This is untrue (define "most") and even if it was, gender norms and roles are not inherently tied to dating. But that seems difficult to get for men in this sub. Gender norms' main problematic results are not that women have to be this and that in order to attract men... Gender norms are a problem because they say what a woman can and cannot BE. Not rationnal, inherently soft and quiet, less intelligent than any man, weaker than any man, not allowed to do things like (from THIS very post comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:58 PM
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I scrolled only first page but even in this little reddit part of the internet I didn't see any post saying "Yeah, men should be masculine, tall, and rich."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:48 PM
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Exactly like races or nations borders are! You have a shitload of actual real tangible things like phenotypes or pieces of land, then, you arbitrarily chose some that fit whatever socio-cultural context you're in, and you draw the line. When it's done, you can say "But... it's biology/nature/science/reality!" based on the actual real tangible things, when you are, in fact, talking about the lines you drew. Naturalisation is not a new strategy. It highly relies on some sort of fallacy easily reso…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:46 PM
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Prenatal environment is studied and we have no idea of the extent of its influence on development of physical and behavioral traits. It is well known that humans adults treat newborn differently based on the gender they believe they are. It is therefore completely plausible that mothers interract AND act differently during their pregnancy depending on the gender of the foetus. It is also highly plausible that the other individuals around the mother act and interract differently with and around h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:39 PM
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None of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:22 AM
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So funny how "judge" became "date" in your comment without you even noticing. That says everything about the loss of time this conversation is. Your body counts makes you a slut/lesser human, blabla is not the same as I don't want to date you because of your body count. I don't want to date someone who cares about my body count either. I have no problem with them not wanting to date me. I have a problem with them saying all kind of shits about who I am based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:16 PM
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So you liked it when girls were forbidden to play video games because they were girls. Got it. Well... too bad. We are not forbidden anymore. You also liked it better when we were not allowed to do science? Was science better when it was a male space? Are you sad also that you can't do science without these pesky women? Are you sad that you have to share your space with people of other races too? Was nice when we had different water fountains and different schools?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:44 PM
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You were a teen 20 years ago. How many comic books convention did you go to? I was never into comics but I was hard in video games. I went to the arcades, had video games marathon with friends all my teenage years and there was more guies for sure, but there always was girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:26 PM
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We are starting to see more of... where? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:17 PM
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Many gender norms are a manifestation of innate sex differences between men and women. Yeah and as such they can continue to exist as descriptive things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:14 PM
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Yeah and they even do SCIENCE today!! The audacity! Can you imagine? Girls? Doing science? The world has truly become such an unfair place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:12 PM
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The things you're talking about were never yours to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:10 PM
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That's awful, manipulative and the sign of a sad, pathetic excuse of a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 05:08 PM
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You can have the preference you want. None of it was ever argued to be oppressive. It's the demeaning and insulting comments that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:07 PM
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Coul, I've never done it so I have all the room I want to criticize insulting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:05 PM
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Yeah probably but it is not a given that most men equate a good character media-wise with a sexually appealing one. Maybe you don't know them but I tend to know a lot of interesting people who are interested in media portraying complex, diverse and deep characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:03 PM
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Yes bad things continue to happen.... and?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:13 PM
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And there is a lot of way to look cool and awesome. Speak for yourself, a lot of men enjoy the change big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:11 PM
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Nail on the head here!👏 Innate or not, gender norms should be at best descriptive. Having them with strong normative power hurts a lot of people and is also a freezing force to society's evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:10 PM
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That's your personal opinion and preferences. I find Jordan from Intergalactic hot as fuck for example. I find Abby from LoU2 ugly but I love her DA and how it relates to who she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:04 PM
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We don't care that you stare at fat asses in video games. We just like to play video games in which women are diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:58 PM
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It is not considered nice to, for example, insult a guy because he's short...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:57 PM
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I would absolutely consider media that would push the narrative that men under 185cm are lesser men as oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:56 PM
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If they cater to everyone all is good. There is still games with sexy asses. But not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:54 PM
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Feminism started the gender war. DING DING we have a winner!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:53 PM
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Get out of here spouting sensical statements!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:42 AM
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"They're only responding" is your argument? Well feminists were only responding to the sexualization of women. their spaces had been invaded and hated by feminists. Their space? Like video games belongs to the specific subset of male gamers who want to see ass and boobies and hate to see muscular or lesbian women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:39 AM
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If a Video Game depicts Sexualized Women then it is their right to depict those women in that manner. Feminists do not have the right to demand the Games change to stop "muh sexualization" or "muh misogyny" because it is the Games (and Gamers) right to depict women that way. Feminists are not demanding that it is illegal to sexualize women in media. They are stating what they think of it. Are you arguing that feminists do not have the right to vocally state their opinions on media? If you don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:31 AM
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*It's not very effective *
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:44 AM
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Why do you think I don’t understand it better than you? Because the way you stated these few sentences is exactly what most evolutionary biologist would get a heart attack from. I do have a PhD you know… Coul story, I have 4 and two are in quantum physics. After all, it's the internet. Why do you think female infants prefer plush objects like dolls as toys whereas male infants prefer wheeled objects like trucks? I'm sensing psychology bachelor struggling with stats and data analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:09 PM
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Please be sure you understand evolutionary biology before saying things like this. Especially when talking about complex behaviors. Especially given your last sentence which is some kind of pot-pourri of vague terms with absolute statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:04 PM
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Yep, you can have sex or not with whoever's you want inside the bound of consent :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:34 AM
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So what...? Let's make consent irrevocable?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:01 AM
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Quite good metaphor actually!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:54 AM
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Reaaalllyyy not. It could even push me the other way. Imagine someone accuses you to have ignored her when she told you she wanted the sex to stop at one point. Now imagine your defense line is "yes but look! at the start, she was consenting!". Everyone would be convinced that indeed, you seem to not understand that consent can be revoked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:52 AM
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You're getting downvoted because chatGPT content added value here is around -273.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:45 PM
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My experience is a lot of men who date hot fit women and pay fat sex workers on the side, in secret. A lot of man love and are aroused by fat women. I don't understand it, but reality is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:33 AM
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There is a LOT of guies who LOVE, not put out with, not settle with but actually LOVE and seek out fat women. And the amount of fat sex workers I know make me think that a lot of them are HIDING this preference socially. I don't understand it. I do not find fat people esthetically pleasing. Particularly not women. I find skinny ass bony women hot. Still, it doesn't prevent me from accepting that other people find other things attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:39 PM
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Nah.. we only get bad Haikus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:13 AM
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Some debates require facts 🤣 surely not this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:21 AM
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When a smaller portion of a group consume pornographic or erotica material, it is expected that they will probably consume more intense or niche stuff. Because the "average" people in the group simply don't consume or consume very very little of that. So the portion that consume it regularly has more chances to be already a bit more "extreme". Also, look up traumatic revival and the like. Sexual violence can often create unhealthy arousal in response to violent clues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:50 AM
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Men have been doing that for a lot of time in history in monastery, orders, etc. Voluntary celibacy is a thing. Nevertheless, I don't think this is an argument that holds against your take that overall, it's possible that sex and romance is some kind of a need for most men (and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:46 AM
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It's not a paraphrase. And you know it. The only thing linking these two sentences are your desire to jump in with your fake "I am an (almost) biologist and actually biology is important ya know...." If you can't see how throwing "BioLoGyY" when we discuss these subject is ridiculous, you're as "biologist" that I'm an engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:29 AM
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Are conservative and liberal the only to political beliefs that exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:16 PM
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Biology doesn't matter? Did I say that somewhere? The rest of your comment is you responding to a point no one did beside yourself in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:34 AM
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So edgy 🙄... no you are not, and you understand very well what I implied was wrong with the use of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:21 AM
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You are a 100% clueless. Carrying newborns on your chest or back was and is the norm in most humanity. No woman ever sat at home with a new born after she healed back from birthing. And it's not only women, it's siblings and fathers too. And it's not for traveling, its for working. And your other comment about breastfeeding... do you know how common it is for women to breastfeed each others kids in culture were they're close together? Most children will.be breastfed for.2-5 years, other babies w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:12 AM

Huh... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:13 PM
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You mean how pain is used as an excuse to say "Ho.. I'm in pain"? Women are talking about actual physiological realities. Not mumbo-jumbo pseudoscience evo-psy horsecrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:12 PM
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Don't know who that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:31 PM
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"Biology" it's always biology... how convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:24 PM
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The dissonance is intense here. I'll be happy to let you to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:37 PM
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an example of giving value to individuals without them demonstrating why that value is so high or deserved The value these women get is to be sexually attractive. So it's pretty evident for me that this fact demonstrates that the value is per se deserved. Because you can't get so much attention and value on your attractiveness if there isn't people that find you attractive who give you your "value". In fact can you show us what an ugly woman is? Just put the link here .. do you even think they e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:36 PM
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The simple observation that women see other women with more likes and she has more likes than most men shows the importance of herself. Not everyone equates likes and internet fame as being "important" or "superior". But for the people who do, then women are constrained to being pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:27 PM
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Imagine we made men CEOs, Michael Jordans without even seeing them run a company or dunk a ball .. All they have to do is be born and get on a platform and then try a variety of things to get notice with very low effort. No one is making these women CEOs or athletes, they're just sexual things. Women would have to find other ways (preferably what men are seeking) to get attention and they would treasure it more . Men would save their attention coupons for women that deserve their attention. Woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:21 PM
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Wait a minute... it's men who can't refrain to spend tons of money on OF, simp and drool like crazy under thirst traps of random average girls (OPs words not mine), give all their attention to stupid posts as long as the chick is not dead ugly and it's women who can't handle social media? 🤣 It's literally like saying that because young people get insanely drunk and puke everywhere at 10pm, it was a mistake to let bars open because they (the bars) can't handle alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:15 PM
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You're too focused on posting shallow shits. Yes, men have a harder time getting attention for how they look. Now look at the attention they get for what they know, how they think, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:07 PM
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Worst part is how displaced is the superiority. It's based on shallow things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:04 PM
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Whatever the male version of this girl is or really any man on earth did interpretative dances like this it would be just ridiculously mocked by most all people. Becaus it is ridiculous. The only reason it's not is if you sexualize this person. The message is that if you're sexualized then you can do anything it doesn't matter. Personally, I'd say it's mostly degrading and I hate that part of womanhood. Guys have a significantly harder time on social media getting attention and even respect comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:04 PM

Judging by the time you spend on reddit, it's not your case. So drop the whole "life hard and cold for the simple man, tits are the only nice warm thing" and get a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:33 AM
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Stfu nothing and everything is a state of nature. The state is also what protects you from super chad to crush your skull because your voice is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:59 AM

Get a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:50 AM

And its women fault for no wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:28 PM
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No... THAT is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:18 AM
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"Ride or die bros", did you ever see what is the social structure and history or say... the hooligans? Here them talk behind each others back all day long and trying to fuck each others girlfriend...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:33 PM
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And it really feel like they wrote that with only one hand on the keyboard...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:27 PM
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And it is so ridiculous too. All of us know men in real life that aren't like that. Maybe its only basement dwellers angry bitter guies unable to socialize that are like that. But as they don't see other people, they don't know they're the weird ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:25 PM
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Men don’t bond over talking. I know plenty of men, probably most men I know, who meet each others or in groups to talk about life, their hobbies, their problems, etc... What women don’t want to acknowledge is that male camaraderie is fundamentally about forming a tribe to play violent patriarchal war games. That is what scratches men’s itch. Any actual group where “men have each other’s back” is unforgivingly about male power and subjugating an opposing team. I should tell that to my male friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:23 PM
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Being comfortably risk averse and indecisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:29 PM
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Sexmate then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:42 AM
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You know that behavior and personality are phenotypes too right? Or you just learned a new impressive word? Of course someone will judge you on your phenotype? What else? They'll sequence your genome and judge you on your SNPs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:44 AM
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2.3M "like" is 0.14% of the total TikTok users.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:19 PM
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It's filled with Beta Bux men who maxxed out on education and career Sorry but I really doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:21 AM
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If you have to make strategies and things like that on something so intimate to get someone to be with you then why be with this person?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:18 AM
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Because there is a difference of scale between being regularly single for months (what the data on loneliness tells us is that 40-60% of people are CURRENTLY not in a stable relationship) and never ever having had sex or romantic moment or a stable relationship. 99% of adults men had sex or a relationship by the time they're 25. For the vast majority of men, being forbidden any access to any women beside the one their family (or the government) will choose for them (probably based on family asso…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:40 PM
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You need your pills and some herbal tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:53 AM
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Ahhhh ok... we're not actually speaking about friends here. Merely acquintance. Maybe you should use another word than "friendship".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:55 PM
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Seriously lol... WTF is wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:12 PM
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If people are partnered, and it's most of the time the case, it will come up in a discussion at random. And it will come up with a pronoun most of the time. And we'll meet said partner at a point. If someone gets a new partner, it's quite clear they'll speak about it at a point, and we'll know. You know the sexual orientation of your friends 99% of the time. The one friend I didn't explicitly know just came out as gay to everyone (he was closeted) pretty soon. It's the only time I didn't have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:12 PM
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that it would be just as fair to entitle the former breadwinner with additional hours with their kids to make up for all the time they spent working. If they want it and the kid is happy with it for sure. But then there is no need for compensation anymore as both parents probably see take care of their children at the approx. Same rate. You seem to have quite a wrong impression of how things go usually, parents that have the lesser care time are rarely super interested into seeing their children…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:27 PM
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and mothers are constantly told they legally need to make the children available on those days even if the father consistently cancels or doesn't show up. This! I've seen that so so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:32 PM
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It's not only about the kids' expense, it's about loss of earnings for the parents who's responsible for the child most of the time. I'll give an example, my son is old (17) and lived 80% of the time with his father (weekends type of care) for the last 7 years (it was the opposite before, but we though that it may be good for him to spend a bit more time with his father as he got older, and he was happy about it). We're both in academics but in vastly different fields. Lately, my son got hit a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:30 PM
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Swiping only on 1% doesn't mean swiping on the most rich, conventionnally hot, musculare guies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:35 PM
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Some women enjoy dating apps, find a boyfriend they really like, they are not delusional about who they are and are based in reality and understand that desirable men will exploit there opportunities. I'm this kind of woman. Do you know on what percentage of men I swipe? 1% big fat max.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:50 PM
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We were speaking about successful men... Like men that are able to get girlfriends and relationship. You came in the discussion saying no, successful men are assholes. Then you changed the definition of successfull... If being successful = being promiscuous. And if being promiscuous = being an asshole, then of course that successful men are assholes... Can you see your tautology here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:50 PM
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You did not understand my comment at whole but I'm not surprised. It's a simple and to be faire quite classic sample bias, and a little logical fallacy too. My statement : Successfull guies are not necessarilly nor most likely to be assholes. Your statement : Yes they are because most of the assholes I know are successfull. But the "assholeness" you speak about can ONLY express itself in situation where the man is successfull. Someone that has no success does not have the occasion to cheat or ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:21 PM
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What you are describing is being in a group of assholes. It's not by mistakes that you all are friends with so many guies abusing and cheating on their girlfriends. So basically, what you are seeing is a classic bias of observation. Imagine you have a bunch of guies, all are assholes. Some of them have success and the others don't. The ones that are successful with women have girlfriends, the ones that are not successful do not. Thus, the former do abuse and cheat on their girlfriends while the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:13 PM
1

Usually where how? That's not my observation at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:44 PM
1

Heritability does not mean that something is hard to change. We have around 40-60% heritability for most personality traits and it's a shady measure difficult to understand. That still means that half of the variation observed is due to environmental and developmental/life history factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:42 PM
2

Well good luck having the vast majority of guy who gets more than that accept this change so that 1% of eternal virgin can have non consensual sex with their ugly ass cousin Betty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:40 PM
6

They are addicted to our attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:41 AM
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there is literally no instance in which you use the phrase "come and take it" to mean that you aren't defending something The instance when someone says you should give them something and you say, no, if you want it, take it yourself. Also, you have the wrong conversation all wrong in order. Are you that challenged? Now, I've explained my point. It's pretty clear to anyone you just couldn't refrain from jumping in to blabber your edgy take, that no one is interested in. Go on and argue about it …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:38 AM

Last time I checked, saying "I will not jump off the cliff" does not mean "I will force you to jump off the cliff".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:10 PM
3

I'm sure they will be DELIGHTED when they have to feed their 8th child because contraception and abortion is as forbidden as divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:54 PM
5

When did women force you or men to fight? Like its women who send you the draft? Its them that declare war and decide to get involved in the wars you get drafted to? Delulu
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:44 PM
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This... enjoy your no alcohol, no video games, no porn and 5 monitored prayers a day. Enjoy never touching a woman outside of marriage (or at risk of jail) and getting married to your ugly ass geeat cousin Betty whose father is rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:42 PM

Are you able to provide anything valuable to a conversation or just your cousin?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:41 PM
1

Like... come (verb related to an idea of movement) and take (verb associated with the idea of changing the ownership status of something so it is now transmitted to you) it (here, "it" refers to women's bodily autonomy and freedom to chose their romantic and life partner). In a conversation that says "If you don't give it, it will be taken", it says : " then come and take it, because I will not give it". Don't you understand your own first language? Is it your wizened brain or the educational st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:40 PM
8

"Please provide us with a precise and exhaustive description of the different characteristics and features of what is attractive to you. Because there is a chance you are like my cousin!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:27 PM
3

Did I say women will defend it? I said come and take it, under a post saying we should be giving it away otherwise they'll be taken away. All the rest happened in your tiny wizened edgy brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:09 PM
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Switzerland here. The worst things about the "draft" is the military tax. It's excessively easy to not go to the army at all and do any other civilian community work instead. Some leftist groups tried to do a thing where the military would be only on willingness but the community work would be universal. Never could get enough signatures outside of far left milieu.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:58 PM
6

Trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:55 PM
6

Oups, pertussis. Dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:49 PM
20

"But all we ant is true connection and companionship"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:46 PM
8

What I thought. Thanks for the valuable input then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:25 PM
8

Not what I experiences or seen but ok. Thanks for bringing your immense knowledge of "every man". Got your Nobel from trust me bro university already? Still waiting a peer reviewing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:22 PM
5

We will see, I don't see the future. I never said we will go to war... I don't know that. You're the only person fantasizing a big war here. And it's quite funny to read actually. Go for it. Do the big war, do the big revolt, force women to marry and pair up with men they don't like. But tomorrow I guess, because tonight, it's raid night. There is Dungeons to roam and reddit posts to write. You americans are getting a covid denier and antivaxx as a health minister, and flat earthers creationists…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:14 PM
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No i wasn't there 100 years ago. Were you? And so what? We should bend over before it happens? Save men the inconvenience of revolting and taking away our bodily autonomy? Again... I'd rather these men (because a shit ton of men don't want that) to get up and take this freedom from us by force than give it to them. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:59 PM
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I understood your "point". I never said anything about any "collective conscious decision". My point holds. The outcomes in your speculation are the same: either we give away our freedom to chose who we partner with, either it will be taken from us. Why would we give it away then? Let's have a fight for it, and we'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:57 PM
18

But let's also force men to marry who they're told to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:05 PM
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So basically, if women don't bend and go in relationship they don't want. Men will overthrow power and make them. And so, to avoid being forced into relationship we don't want, women should force themselves into relationships they don't want... Nah... I'd rather make them get up and take my freedom to associate with who I want to build a life by force than give it to them under threats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:03 PM
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Their cope is big and simple. Sexually successful men HAVE to be assholes to save their ego. It's like 16 years old girls that think that all hot women are stupid and superficial. It seems too unfair that some people can be hot and successful and clever and good people and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:01 AM
1

Maybe everyone should throw out the "dating market"...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:17 AM
1

Again, I guess there is a difference between someone who tried but suffers too much and then decide it's better for him not to see the other person. And someone who cut all bridge immediately at rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:03 AM
0

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:17 AM
1

Pretty clear to anyone if you can never heal from a break up (or rejection from a friend) and consider that normal, you're lacking important emotional regulation tool and are, therefore, not as capable as you should indeed. Don't like it? Same price.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:09 PM
3

The only problem the RP have with overweight women is that they still reject them while they should (according to them) be as desperate as the average incel here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:32 AM
1

Yeah you watched too much movies. Or your 20yo...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:11 AM
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I'm sorry about that second situation. That sounds very unpleasant. Didn't happen to me. But it was painful and surprising to watch. However, sometimes it's the woman who didn't reciprocate the feelings who ends the friendship, and not the guy with the unrequited love. Of course... and I think it indicates the same thing. A friend burning all bridges because you fell in love with her probably didn't value your friendship that much. y that I lost a good friend because I couldn't read the situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:06 PM
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Of course. It's plenty clear in my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:54 PM
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That's exactly my point though... We evolved a want for sex, because it made us reproduce more. But we didn't evolve a want for kids (what you call your "mind" wanting it) because it was not needed as we already had a want for sex. But contraception decoupled sex from kids and therefore, with mostly our want for sex, we fail to reproduce enough. That is basic science (from a biologist specialized in evolution and behavior)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:18 PM
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But I am not arguing that a guy falling in love with his woman friend should not ask her out!!! I am speaking about what goes after this moment. I’ll phrase this in a way where women are the ones being negatively affected so MAYBE you can have a bit of empathy for men in this situation. A woman is dating a man, that romantic relationship last for 5 whole years. The man decides he wants to break up but still be friends, the woman says she doesn’t want to be around him anymore. Is the woman selfis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:56 PM
1

Then overcoming the heartbreak and going back to the friendship will have a far more positive outcome than burning birdges and having neither the romantic neither the freindship relationship. I don't see how this is complicated to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:07 PM
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When you are 16 years old maybe. If it was uncontrollable, no relationship would ever last more than a year or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:50 PM
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The fact they were close friends imply that there was a strong positive outcome from the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:48 PM
2

If most women wanted children, most women would have them in high number in situations where they have the choice to have them. Most people want to have sex and have it even when it's extremely dangerous or forbidden. Most people want sugar and fats and we can see that most people do have it despite it killing them. But for a reason most women want children but don't have them because of what? If this want exists, it's weak as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:46 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:44 PM
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Speak for YOUR friendships... Also there is many ways to mitigate this pain without burning all bridges.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:42 PM
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you may need a lot of distance and you may ends up with basically the same issue: letting the other one think that you only cared about sex because you are not that involved any more. Something that being open and discussing the situation can avoid easily... given that both party are adults responsible for their own emotions and handle them accordingly. Aka for the one who rejected : being patient and comprehensive, monitoring the interractions to avoid feeding the attraction and sacrificing som…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:41 PM
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Exactly yes. As I said, when it did happen in my life we worked together on handling it so that neither of us would lose what we considered as a very very valuable part of our lives. The rest of our friends also didn't had to suffer too much from the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:36 PM
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It's simply that an eager willingness to burn all bridges tells something about the value the person did put in the relationship they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:21 PM
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If someone drops a friend for not calling on a birthday, same thing, that was not an actual friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:03 PM
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For most people who don't have obsessivity problems, being in love is not something that is uncontrollable. It's most of the time something you willingly let happen (first thing) and that you feed consistently (second thing). So people let the crush become love, and THEN continue feeding this love knowing well it will not be reciprocal. If the platonic relationship was REALLY important, it's perfectly feasible to take a little distance and work on starving the romantic love. I feel like some peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:02 PM
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The fact that some men will not even TRY kind of really show that they were not actually that interested by their platonic relationship at all. That's usually when we are like "ah ok... so he just wanted ass" which is not exactly true but more "he just valued her as a potential girlfriend"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:55 PM
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I would say this reaction most likely happen when the guy just cut all bridges after facing rejection. The low value he seems to give to the relationship they had is what makes people think he "only wanted to get in her pants". I've been on both side of these situation, and I never felt like the guy just wanted to get in my pants because he continued to treat me like a human with value after I rejected him. We did have a deep and not so nice discussion, we did put some distance between each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:53 PM
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EDIT : I overcomplicated things. Here is a lot more simple explanation. In a world without modern comfort and security nor contraception. Your reproductive fitness depend on how well you can find a good mate, how healthy you are, how well you can feed and raise your children, how well you can protect them from danger, and then how well they'll do the same. In this context, what difference WANTING to have children does make in how much you'll actually have? How will reproduce more? The one who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:12 AM
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Don't see how you would infer hate from this but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:17 AM
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It's wrong for the last trait. We have instincts for caring for children once they are there AND we raised them cooperatively. The ones birthing more reproduced more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:39 AM
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No. I said that everytime I saw the reactions you described : saying he's entitled or sexist. It was on the internet, in response to complaints that were, entitled or sexist. Never said anything about most men on the internet. Said about specific men that recieved specific responses to specific complaints. I never heard these type of complaints outside the internet. And the reaction to these were therefore, also, on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:31 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:14 PM
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Well, unless they plan on never getting access to the same level of contraception we do, they'll follow the exact same tract. And if you see the success of contraception where it is indeed accessible in Africa, there is no doubt about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:17 PM
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Very little sex is enough to have more than 1 child per woman... Teen pregnancies alone should do a pretty big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:00 PM
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It will raise toward replacement yes. So will awful situations. People will have sex. And we all know what happen of people have sex. You think that all the people who don't want kids will stop to have sex altogether if we take out all contraception and abortions? And think about all the happy couples that wanted to have kids, and have 2. They'll stop having sex altogether? Think about the prostitutes, the rapes... Babies, babies, babies all over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:35 PM

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:31 PM
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I'm not saying a man is never right to be afraid about that. I'm saying that if it's recurrent and obsessive then he should check if he's not simply insecure and suffer from anxiety. Exactly like women systematically monitoring their men and over interpreting everything to feed their own doubts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:04 PM
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Well you didn't say anything about the venting. I've seen and participated in countless venting/counseling of men who were rejected as I've very mixed social circles and I've never seen such reactions. I've seen such reactions on the internet when the venting is "women are bad for rejecting me", "No women want me while I'm such a perfect guy", "This woman was poor and fat while I'm rich and fit! She's such an entitled brat for rejecting me.", "Anyway all women want is 6 pack, 6 inches, 6 figures…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:01 PM

So it's women faults because you make the rational choice of spreading stds in order to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:56 PM
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I'm exactly in this age range and I don't see it. I see it mostly in the media, and it really seems to result in some social myths that you'll end up alone with nothing to do with your life otherwise. It's not impossible that some humans do, but there is no evolutionnary reason for this to have been selected and if doesn't seem to be expressed at large scale as it is obvious that people do not, actually, have children when they don't need to (otherwise we wouldn't be talking about low natality).…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:55 PM
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Yes... or maybe people develop insecurities too online and then will put that in their relationship. You do you at the end of the day. But it's like women crazy jealous and anxious about cheating. They can continue to be linke that while in perfect healthy and good relationship. Because they are disordered and paranoid about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:09 PM

So the spread of STDs is due to men not vetting the STds. But Its because of women because if you vetted them she wouldn't have sex with you? What???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:06 PM
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What you mean by invalidated?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:04 PM
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We don't say that it's insecure to not want to be a second choice. We say it's insecure to obsess about hypothetically being the second choice. When we say hypochondriac people have an anxiety disorder we don't say that not wanting to be sick is abnormal...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:01 PM
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Maybe in the US, from what I see in a lot of Europe there more strong emphasis on living a fullfilling life with a good work-life balance, fun, happy time, social interraction, good health and intellectual growth. Which sometime correlates strongly with wealth accumulation for very "brainwashed" people in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:13 PM
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And by doing that, they put the foreign countries on the road to the exact same situation we have here. It's a displacement in space and time, but at the end, it will not change the final outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:07 PM
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I'ts a great thing, people just seem to find it difficult to accept that we do not, actually want to have children that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:00 AM
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The rate of abortion in South Korea is almost 30 per 1'000 women age 15-44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_South_Korea#Abortion_rate In the US it is 11.... https://www.cdc.gov/reproductive-health/data-statistics/abortion-surveillance-findings-reports.html#:\~:text=Among%2047%20reporting%20areas%20with,abortions%20per%201%2C000%20live%20births. Birth control is obviously more available in south Korea than in the US, particularly today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:58 AM
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I think that not wanting babies is more the "standard" state actually. Especially for females. Contraception is a problem because humans, as a whole, in general, do not have any special drive to have babies at the personal level. What I mean by drive is like an intrinsic or instinctive drive to have babies. We have this kind of drive to have sex, to eat sugar and fat, to rest, to sleep, to protect our close humans, to socialize, to take care of tiny humans when they are there in our care. But ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:49 AM
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I'll copy paste my comment to the other "fertility rate" post. It's a biological fact. Relying solely on our drive toward sex for reproduction was a maladaptive evolutionary strategy in our case. Like with all maladapted traits, it will drive us to extinction or there will be adaptation. What we see today is the simple fact that we never developed any strong drive for having children per se. Our reproduction relied solely on our willingness to have sex. Wit contraception, we decoupled the variat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:27 AM
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And they evolved this physical dominance by fighting each others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:57 PM
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Are you trying to convince everyone Solanas was right? Is THAT the input you have for society? It seems to me like quite a waste on server power to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:56 PM
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Following a hot person that passed your feed to be sure not to miss them next time is really brain dead and pathetic to me. The fact that anyone would actually care is alien. But hey. I don't have to understand it, a lot of people don't do that. Ps. 95$ of people with social media spend at least some 7 hours a week scrolling. If on top of that what you chose to scroll to is asses, buttcracks, sweaty abs or boobs, in my eyes it's like watching reality TV or eating in the trash of Macdonald by cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:43 PM
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So we agree. We don't instinctively want to have kids. So when we are able not to have them we don't. It's a simple biological reality. That's why it is so hard to raise natality without authoritarian measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:40 PM
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I think you misunderstood me. No need to evolve any want for offsprings to consistently reproduce. It seems that until now, the drive to have sex was absolutely enough and a lot more easy and direct. Nothing indicates that any adapted preference for having offsprings was ever selected for, because it was never needed. But now, it will be needed. Or anything else that correlates with reproductive success. That's how natural selection works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:48 PM
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We have meaningful and efficient control over our fertility since 100 years and in a part of the world only. Women education correlates with access and correct use of contraception and decrease in accidental unwanted pregnancies. Why is it so scary to imagine humans and the vast majority of animals (females in particular) simply don't "want" to have offsprings?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:36 PM
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You're basically saying people were having children because they had nocturnal choice. The fact that the no choice came from no contraception or otherwise you die of hunger, or otherwise you'll go in hell doesn't change the fact that we don't actually want to have children that much. As soon as you alleviate any of the pressure to have children, we have less. You don't need to pressure humans into eating sugar. But you visibly need to pressure them to have offsprings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:22 PM
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Natality has constantly decreased since women were able to control their reproductive activity. It's a simple fact. Other incentives such as social pressure may have kept it for a tiny while but they drop too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:56 PM
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Fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:25 PM
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Bad condoms vs freely accessed and chosen feminine contraception is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:24 PM
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We just invented contraception.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:16 PM
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I find it pathetic to spend hours (we all spend hours scrolling if we have social media) on hot people picture. Brain dead activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:23 PM
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Wtf... why? I saw that a bit in different groups that mine, specially in super normie people. Men spending days scrolling soft porn and women spending days getting crazy and controlling about it. Jesus what a nightmare. I mean if your guy doesn't do something you don't like because you monitor him leave the poor guy alone and find one that is compatible with you. Jesus...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:21 PM
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I wouldn't date a guy that follow random women on social media for no reasons outside as they are pretty. Not because I would be jealous but because I think it's such a boring, idiotic and normie thing to do that this person will likely not be a good fit for me. I can't even imagine a more brain dead activity than "scrolling" on pictures of sexy people... wtf seriously people need hobbies. And I don't mean that if I discovered it I would break up, I mean that the probability that I end up dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:12 PM
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It's a biological fact. Relying solely on our drive toward sex for reproduction was a maladaptive evolutionary strategy in our case. Like with all maladapted traits, it will drive us to extinction or there will be adaptation. What we see today is the simple fact that we never developed any strong drive for having children per se. Our reproduction relied solely on our willingness to have sex. We decoupled the variation of this traits from the fitness differential it was correlated to. The next qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:04 PM
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If you find your man boring and thinks your life would be better without him yes you should leave him. For BOTH of you. Poor guy wasting time with someone he probably thinks love him, it's awful to keep someone in a situation you KNOW is a dead end. Now, outside of that, I think that if you had great years loving someone, then leaving because of a temporary low is sad and honestly not a good idea. You built something with this person, and this thing is precious. I'd rather give it a bit of time …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:25 PM

The fact that one of the reason pubescent girls are not good relationship for long term monogamy is that they carry no signals about their parenting skills. If you think that females are selected for residual reproductive value in cooperatively bred species with highly fragile offsprings and long bi-parental care show that you failed your classes on fundamental evolutionary models. Or maybe it was too long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:37 PM

So you should know that fitness differential does often exist across mate preferences, particularly in bi-parental or cooperatively breeding organisms. (Mate preferences, not pure sexual attraction). Sexual attraction and mate choice can BOTH be adapted traits. It seems presumptuous, at the very least, to just say "evolution do not care about that trait".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:32 PM
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that evolution isn't interested in. I'm quite impressed that you know what "evolution" is interested in or not. You should come work in evolutionnary biology. It's a skill a lot of us would like to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:56 PM
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Same... didn't get the memo from natural selection I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:25 PM
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The whole problem lies with "reward". These womand will not throw themselve at him to reward him for his success. They'll do it to gain benefits, to extract plus value from his succes. They don't desire the trophy status, they desire the side benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:55 PM
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I don't see how mating is taking control? Also I wonder were did you get your information from? Because females elephant are know to reject and sollicitate guarding and mating from males. Aka there is a big component if female choice in mating behavior of elephants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:02 PM
1

Take control of the herd? What you mean take control? Male elephants live either alone or in groups with other males. They do not follow the herd at a distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:20 PM
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The core of male and female attraction is still very much focused on the things that lead to evolutionary fitness: social status, youth (in women), phyiscal attractiveness (good skin, hair, etc (health, no disease, well nutritioned, etc)), intelligence ( proxy of wit/humor, creativity), resource provisioning ability or potential (proxy by education, job, social status, skills, ambition, etc), behavioral information that leads to commitment/loyalty, paternity security, safety, etc. Fully agree bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:14 PM
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Most social mammals are not "matriarchal" per se but matrilineal. It's not the norm also that males and females live together at equal frequencies and when they do, each sex usually has it's own hierarchy. It's difficult to define "power" in animal context too. When you say male exert "power" from a distance, what you mean by that? What does he control?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:05 PM
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You can have the impression that you can't consciously chose what you find attractive, but I'm not sure this is a falsifiable claim. You can reprogramm yourself or be reprogrammed to think, feel and experience a lot of different things. I don't see how it is possible that attraction is different. There may be very specific things that have less to do with attraction and more to do with more "basic" instinct such as disgust but that we link to attraction. I remember a sociobiology course were the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 09:11 AM
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all that matters is that you lived long enough to reproduce and pass your genes on. Specifically, at the core, to be selected or favored, what matter is that there is more of your genes than others. just say that “big strong men are the most fit” or “women with a certain hip to waist ratio are the most fit” It depends what people mean by "fit". And because a lot of people don't understand evolution very well, they probably are mistaken on what "fit" is. Do you believe in evo psych? You probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:22 AM
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Our culture evolve very fast and is, by definition most of our direct environment. I never found that human behavior was especially strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:02 AM
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Reproductive success is the only thing that counts for selection. Survival is only beneficial in regards and if it increases the reproductive success I know the definition of evolution thank you it's my field of expertise in biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:40 PM
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That's not what is usually considered evolutionary advantageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:49 PM
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It would also need us to define what we see as evolutionary advantageous. And if we want that. I guess we don't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:37 PM
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The ability and need of leaving in complex groups is a biological trait evolved for sure. But the emergence of cultures is mostly an obligatory inevitable consequences of the kind of group we create. What the culture contains can be a lot of different things and does not necessarily correlate with what is good for the species at all. And I think it is pretty obvious if you look out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:35 PM
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Evolutionnary biologist here, joining. Also, the preference of stronger or bigger framed males (or succesful in fight against other males) it's generally a thing that exist in a lot of animal societies. You should read about sexual selection and sexual dimorphism because size and strength in males are typical derived traits arising from male-male competition over females monopoly (intraexual selection) and not at from female preferences (intersexual selection). Strong sexual selection through fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:32 PM
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Healthy relationship don't have people doing sex act that they don't want FOR someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 10:46 PM
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Where did I say anything about impossible? He said "too high", I speak about "too high".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:37 PM
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It is an innate biologic trait. Due to pregnancy. You learned that in your birth preparation lessons?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:58 PM
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More stupid pseudo biology after the break. Maybe you should stick to being a mother and thinking/speaking about motherly things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:56 PM
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Maybe say "psychological" fact when you back it up with psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:53 PM
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It's a sexual situation. The person in it is not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:51 PM
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Most of the "mechanical thanks for the neurotransmitter, good night" sessions are without any object of desire. The very rare "well, I'd like to spend a nice moment with myself now. No electric help, and not rushing to it sessions" are mostly with it, but it's often more a situation than SOMEONE specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:48 PM
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Not when you are desperate and reifying like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:45 PM
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Yes he does. And then wonder why women don't like him...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:25 PM
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Did you just said that being an interesting person that has their shit together while being relatively healthy in their body are too high standards? Jesus, it's standards people should have for themselves. If I don't find my partner interesting, hot or mentally stable I will simply not be in love with him.... what you want? Women who are not in love with you? Don't you want a fit, interesting and mentally stable woman? Because if the answer is no, then it feels like you don't want a partner but …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:23 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:00 AM
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and that kind of evolution takes place over 100 million years You can divide this by 100 at least. But overall, you get a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:46 AM

This... it's so funny. And at the same time, they hope that women over 30 (who also don't want them) start feeling desperate so that they will pursue them like crazy. It's kind of obvious and fun to see them try so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:12 PM
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It is sexiste and feminists have said they were sexist numerous time. If it's free, you are the product.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:14 PM
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Almost every little point you gave here is absolute bullshit. Like even the temporal stuff about well known history. Starting by the whole staying at home bullshit. Women worked for the vast majority of these last centuries unless they were aristocrats. Stay at home wives existed for around 50 years before 2000. Open a history book. It's nice that you thought about that but it's a lot nicer to build an opinion on actual facts. Here, your whole point is standing on things you believe that are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:53 PM
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Ha... but misandry was not a natural and justified reaction to hundreds of years of misogyny...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:06 PM
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What you mean by that exactly? Yes, a lot of "journalisme" talk about the most utter detail precise and fringe thing and makes it the "new feminist thing" because it will generate comments, hates and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:10 PM
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Because it makes people react like you do. Generate comments and money. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:29 AM
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Do you think that people who engage in short terms and Fwb never like each others? There is "friends" on Feb...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:53 PM
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Only if his 6 feet tall, makes over 6 digits and has a 6pack. I may eventually settle to accept someone with ONE of these missin IF is dick is a the very least 8inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:06 AM
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Kinda funny that abortion is a huge national issue in the US, but men's issues basically never get talked about or addressed outside of some very limited ones like say conscription, So make it an issue. But not just when it's nice to shut off women. It's frustrating to see a movement that claims to be for equality, treat equality like a one way street exclusively to women's benefit. Got it... women should be taking care of that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:34 AM
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Maybe complain about that instead of the fact that women can abort?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:32 AM
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They have the freedom to chose to end something they I'd happening in their body. The fact it de facto allows to chose to be a parent or not is not what the law and discussions around abortion are. If we were laying eggs, we wouldn't have more choice to end the development of the egg than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:29 AM
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If the child was in your body, you could decide the same you know. It is, about bodily autonomy. Like no one can force you to give a kidney.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:26 AM
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When we're talking about abortion, one of the big arguments is that women should get to decide when they are ready or want to be parents. But no.... this is not, or shouldn't be one of the big arguement. The arguments about abortion are centered around pregnancies. Not parenthood. It's, as OP said, about bodily autonomy, like basic trivial, physiologic bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:20 AM
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Coul discovery channel facts. Both would suck, but Lion is slightly better, because you aren't getting pegged by female hyenas' pseudo peni in dominance displays. The vast majority of male lions will simply die young and without having mated once. If you're lucky enough to get a pride, you'll spend the rest of your life on the edge of being killed as well as your cub by the first slightly stronger male. But you just see the disney style version of it. You only picture the winners and romanticize…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:26 AM
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I will never enter a relationship where i am expected to do any of this. I am a busy woman with a social and academic life of my own. I'll support my man in moments where he needs it and I have the surplus to do so. I expect only the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:37 PM
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Yep. The best is to go on non expensive date. Where I am it would be super weird to invite a first date to a restaurant or something... go for a few drinks. Pay yours or the first round then the other pays for the second one, easy... chill... you are there to meet someone, not to show off your financial power.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:34 PM
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The evolution of sexual reproduction is quite the complex subject and not everything is settled about it. But I don't see how it had to do anything with genes having interest or desire. Genes are big chains of nucleotides. They're molecules...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:21 AM
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Genes don't have desire nor interests. The reason we observe genes that are good at replicating themselves is simply because they're the only one present long enough and in enough copies for us to observe them. Desire is a feeling. Viruses have no such things. Viruses replicate themselves because otherwise they wouldn't be viruses but just random pieces of DNA or RNA. Random pieces of DNA or RNA have infinitesimal chances of arising by chance and they are not very stable by themselves. If they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:43 PM
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No, the lack of desire to reproduce is the baseline for every animals, humans included. Animals, and humans, desire sex, not reproduction. Now, in humans, a desire to reproduce, to parent offsprings, do exist. It is just not present in the majority of humans. The things that makes human generally unwilling to reproduce are collateral effects of traits that are central to our survival too. Which is why it is so common. Now, as I said, the elements making some human willing to reproduce should for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:30 PM
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Every phenotypical traits is genetically derived at some extent at least. If the desire for children is not at least partially genetic, what is it then? Where does it come from? God?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:53 PM
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the fact that all other animal species seem to want to reproduce suggest that the desire is innate within humans, too. You are mistaken, nothing indicates that any animals has any innate desire or want to reproduce. Animals are driven to have sex. Reproduction is the consequence of that. You're also mistaken in thinking that there exist no selected genes preventing individuals from reproducing. Most ants exhibit obligate eusociality where sterility is a key feature of workers, for example. Actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:47 PM
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It is simply that different traits that are beneficial for survival and reproduction can very well counteract each other or simply get out of hand. Select for effort aversiveness and exceptional intelligence and you get super efficient beings with a rich internal life who gain absolute dominion over the world.... and invent contraception with their great intelligence, and use it extensively thanks to their aversion to effort and their ability to have self fulfilling subjective lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:40 PM
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As a result of traits that push for minimization of hard times and effort and maximization of personal development, own goal pursue and overall entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:37 PM
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The desire for kids is of course at least partially genetic. Most personality traits are to an extent. After long enough, traits that favor or correlate with the desire of having children will undoubtedly be favored and spread tough. Until recently, there may have been no selective pressure to favor desire to be parent as the desire for sex was enough, but if we were able to maintain a society like we have now for hundreds or thousands of years, people who want kids will breed more than people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:33 PM
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From what I observe they're poorly grown people. Emotional maturity of a teen, free spirit mentality while heavily relying on people around for everything, no goal, no passion, full on aversion for anything that requires effort or is difficult, live a life of video games and parties alone, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:23 PM
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Of course the 18 women are foolish to fall for the 35 losers who says that she's "mature for her age". You can judge her how you want. Now I doubt it tells a lot about her at a later point. People are naive and foolish when young. But they evolve and change. It's what is particularly problematic with the said 35 men. They never evolved past their post high school phase and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:18 PM
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Basically, Buss took traits that he knew should show differences across sex and asked people to rate them 0 to 3, then compared the mean between sexes with a basic t-test. So the Buss study shows that men compared to women rate youth and beauty higher. And that women compared to men rate ressource-related traits higher. But none of that has the power to say anything about what men and women prioritize when selecting mate. And 99% of the time, like here, when people invoke Buss, it's to say "men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:22 PM
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I'm sorry but celebrity aside, on average, 30 something guies consistently dating 18 girls are not wealthy nor successful. They're most of the time trashy and did not evolve at all from the moment they left highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:03 PM
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It's funny because beside the outliers cases of extremely wealthy 40-60 years old men dating barely legal women, in reality the vast majority of men above 30 who consistently date women in their early 20 max are absolute losers. Like for real, every single guy I know who started to date only younger women after 30 are pathetic guies that no one want in our circles anymore because we all know how shitty they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:00 PM
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Just check the method... it's extremely poor. It's based on notation from 0 to 3. The size effect is not super great. Plus it says that women rate resources linked traits as more important than men do. But it does not say in anyway that women prioritize these traits. Edit: you can downvote or you can demonstrate how the Buss study shows what men and women prioritize in mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:28 AM
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Some of you should read that "study" from Buss. Because it really does not claim the thing you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:28 AM
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Some of you should read that "study" from Buss. Because it really does not claim the thing you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:27 AM
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By some and some other don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:10 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:09 PM
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The rational being said to be calm headed now! Don't be histerical!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:51 PM
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If I'm satisfied about how he treats me, then I'm satisfied. How he treated other women before will not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:44 PM
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Nothing. If people don't want to have kids, you don't want people to have kids either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:38 PM
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Coul story. "Babies".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:30 PM
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How do they express it? Are you referring to abortion? Because it is not murder nor babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:47 AM
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No one forces you to agree. Still, I'm curious to see example of how these genuinely nice guies are expressing their frustration about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:53 AM
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If you express your frustration in a hateful misogynist way, people will yell you you're a hateful misogynist. Doesn't take a third digit to your IQ to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:17 AM
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I'm very curious how these "genuinely nice guys" who are frustrated and upset about not finding a girlfriend express this frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:16 PM
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This... Jesus the "(Sources, et.al. 1934)" with no references at the end is really screaming "look! I know how you're supposed to write intellectual stuff!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:13 PM
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Exactly what I said, y0u know nothing about hyenas. Hyenas have social bounds, network and intelligence similar to most primates. They live in relatively peaceful nonviolent groups where hierarchy depends vastly on friendship and social coalitions. They're matrilineal, they do not bully males. Actually, I would say it is a hundred time better to be a male hyenas than say, a male lion or wolf. Learn about them, you'd be surprised. What you are talking about are fake popular misconceptions. Think …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:40 PM
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You don't know a thing about hyenas but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:20 PM
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You don't know a thing about hyenas but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:19 PM
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I lived in abandoned houses for years. I learned to do everything from electricity to plumbing. It's not rocket science either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:03 AM
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You mean military history when women had to take up mens work because they were at war and therefore proved they were perfectly able to do all of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:32 PM
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Obviously all women. Men attack other men at much higher rate than anything else. If anyone need protection from men, it's men. They're the one killing each others at insane rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:31 PM
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That is factually wrong. Women are perfectly able to do all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:17 PM
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You think women are not able to do that? Who did all that during the wars in europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:16 PM
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Where I do researches, there is elephant, hyenas (two packs) and leopards. There is no men to protect us. The person responsible for Bush security is a woman and most of us are. We protect ourselves by following some basic security rules and that's it. There is nothing a man could do to protect me from an angry elephant that I couldn't do myself. Men historically did the risky things because women were more precious than men in their eyes given the long gestation time and the newborns dependence…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:15 PM
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Prostitution is legal in a lot of western countries and it does not seem to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:07 PM
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This is ridiculous of course but the argument of OP is basically that women need men mostly to be protected against other men. So in this case, a world without men, OPs take doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:05 PM
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What is stopping you from being targetted by bad men isn't feminism, it's the threat of police and military action. So you just basically said that women couldnt live in a society without men because they need them to be protected against men? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:03 PM
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I don't care about it. First of all. And he's a great guy, I'm in love with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:27 AM

Those are not mutually exclusive... actually it's quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:39 PM
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She said literally nothing about slow and passionate. But hey, hope you had a good one writing this little piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:01 PM
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You are the one making a claim that it is unhygienic. So you define unhygienic AND you provide the infos backing up your claim. there a reason only gross feminists don't shave armpits and promote it. What promotion? Plenty of perfectly normie women don't shave their armpits. You're out of your mind sorry. Go to the lake next to the campus and there is a least 30-40% of girls with armpits hairs. However we will probably silently judge them. That's you dude. Most people have other better and more …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:22 PM
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And what is not acting nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:16 PM
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And countless of people here told you in all lengths how and why you were wrong about it being hygienic. Are you american? I can guarantee you most people don't care and tons of men love it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:46 AM
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If you shower daily and still stink if you have hair, it means you're not able to clean your hairs correctly. Aka, you don't know how to shower. It's simple logic. I'm happy you finally gave in and admitted your problem it's that you find it ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:37 AM
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You're a saint here. So.much patience. The guy is 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:48 AM
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Well you may need to learn how to shower properly. A surprinsgly high portion of people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:37 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:32 AM
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Because if you wash them, hairs make no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:26 AM
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It takes a month to grow a full armpit. You say the overwhelming majority of men shave their armpit once a month? Please. So much bad faith. The majority of men I know with beard don't even freaking own a razor. They just have these electric ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:24 AM
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Come one, even men on tv or ads are not shaved under their armpits 99% of the time. You KNOW it's not a social basis for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:21 AM
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How? What do they start doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:07 AM
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Not a clown that is for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:44 AM
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Did your anime pillow tell you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:21 PM
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Because you had exactly the reaction I described. Your first absolute instinct was to defend the "masculinity" as something maybe biological or maybe something we can't change. Well we don't know if we can or not. And no, it's not gonna be nice at the beginning. Men should go about doing that by trying to change the mentalities, refusing to adopt gender roles they don't want, and refuse being belittle for it. Like women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:11 PM
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So basically what I said. Traditional cultural masculinity didn't change while traditional cultural feminity did. Men also didn't like the "non-feminine" women when it started you know. Now most of them do (whatever you hear on this part of the internet, non submissive, leading and opinionated women everywhere have loving relationships with men). Maybe try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:12 PM
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Aside of dominance, That's not masculine behavior. It's good qualities. I really wish you courage to show that something makes women wet "biologically" with no link to cultural background.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:28 PM
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I know men who I trust politically. They're rare but not more rare than women that I trust politically. Most people on my political "side" are not brighter than the general population and simply believe things "because".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:37 PM
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Wdym "dominating"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:34 PM
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What you mean by gendered behavior and by biological component? Gendered behavior are in essence cultural but our response to culture is in essence biologically derived.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:19 AM
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Thoughtful. I despise the fake feminist guies parroting liberal feminists stupidly aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:18 AM
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I don't know about that. Also things changed since I was a late teen young adult so it may be different as the new early 20 really didn't grow up in the same world I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:15 AM
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Yes, a lot of women spent the last decades fighting to break traditional feminity and achieved a lot. Men, on the other hand, did not really do that with masculinity and on the contrary, a lot of the reaction to feminism was to accuse it to destroy traditional masculinity and to defend it harshly. So feminity relaxed and masculinity did not. Which brings us to a social incoherence as these concepts work in a binary dialectic and each of them are defined in opposition to the other. Masculinity ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:40 AM
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Interesting, not always agreeing with the person in front of them, opinionated, passionate about things we find interesting, fun, enthusiastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:35 AM
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Agree that a lot of people forget that nice is not enough. BUT, I think it's important to note that some women got fucked up by being fed tons of scenario were love is expressed through passion, fights, problems, etc. Aka romantic drama, and particularly some young women tend to confuse emotional roller coasters with love which can make nice loving relationship seem "boring" to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:33 AM
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I didn't say average girls were invisible. I said they do not get tons of compliments online and dozens of men thirsting and simping in their DMs. Shit, most women I know don't even post that much selfies or picture of themselves on Instagram...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:10 AM
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No I didn't actually, because I don't present myself there as some pretty typical girl. Once I played swiping right on every guy, i did got quite a lot and most of my matches actually disappeared, probably once the guies swiping on every women actually saw my profile. When using seriously, I got some matches (less than 5 last time) with people in my range and in my tribe, went on a date with two, one of them became my boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:08 AM
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You used "like" two times, in two sentence dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:26 PM
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That's not what was argued. What was argued was ***tons*** and ***dozens***. I have no one in my DM's from insta or reddit or even facebook (but this is so not used anymore that it doesn't count). Is that more than the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:21 PM
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Not having dozen men in dms doesn't mean being below average. It depends more on how you present yourself to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:06 PM
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I use instagram yes. A used Tinder too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:05 PM
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Women can now get tons of compliments online on a daily basis and have dozens of guys sliding in their DMs. What demographic? I personally don't and I don't know that many women who do. Are you chasing only women who spend their days posting selfies and pictures of themselves on their social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:37 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:04 PM
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Sorry what??? Am I supposed to understand anything in your comment? Is it supposed to be related to what you said and our conversation in any way? Don't try to drown the cat here. You said boring guies make excellent fathers and you described boring guys as : lack of ambition, confidence, or not as interested in having a ' good time '. Which are obviously NOT qualities that make people good parents.... Like... at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:17 PM
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I don't have young kids, my boyfriend has a vasectomy. Why would any of us be a house anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:41 AM

Ha yes and people who lack confidence and ambition who don't care about a good time make excellent fathers...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:26 AM

Ha yes and people who lack confidence and ambition who don't care about a good time make excellent fathers...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:25 AM
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He said himself that GF weren't enough. External validation will never be enoug. The guy has imposter syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:53 AM
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Ah yes... the self doubt about being sexy is gonna disappear as soon as women with a third of his power at best will ask him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:05 AM
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I live in a country with a pretty goof welfare system where you can very well have your own shitty apartment and live a very frugal life by yourself. So it's not sure. I personally live in squats for years. You share a house with 15 people, you get a huge vegetable garden, chickens and the trash. If you don't work, there is ways of living without being a burden for your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:43 PM
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I never went to a first date that was not just a beer or a coffee somewhere. In this case, most of the times there is no service at the table and you go order to the bar and come back with the drinks. So I don't know, most of the time it will be super 50/50 organically. Like at our first date my boyfriend was a bit late, so I ordered a beer waiting for him. Then he arrived, went to order his beer. Then I bought the next two, then he bought the next two... then I don't remember so well. We ended …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:48 PM
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Absolutely not. I'm a radical leftist, I personally do not care at all about being financially successful outside of basic comfort. And what I consider basic comfort materially is very low. If the guy makes ZERO money, it could be a problem because I'm not sure I can support someone else. This doesn't mean that it would be a deal breaker, just that I'd rather not have this kind of problem. But as long as he makes the bare minimum for his own survival its ok. Actually, it's the opposite, If a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:06 PM

Characteristics defining your two categories of "guys" to begin with. And explanations on why it makes them "boring" or "fun"...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:20 PM
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You're not an egg and men are no sperm. Come on now. Just return to the unicellular lifeform if this is how you're gonna use the sack of fat that grew in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:39 PM
1

Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:32 AM
1

I sometimes feel so freaking priviledge that I was not born in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:41 PM
1

I care if I can't go boobs out at the beach or to swim. But I don't see any moment outside of that where I would be more comfy bra free than in a light bralette. Even the small ones get in the way a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:50 PM
6

I didn't actually met any adult that couldn't cook at least basic meals. Like... sometimes the things I read here mesmerize me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:47 PM
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Harder or not, it's often not really rewarding. At one point, spending all your days alone with people who are not adults melts your brain away. I would be on depression immediately if I didn't have activites outside of the house. Also in my country kids go to school 8 to 12 then 2 to 4, they need to come back to eat. So your time alone is in small patches that don't allow to do much besides cleaning or cooking. I remember when I was a teacher for 4 to 6 children and my child was the same age...…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:30 AM
1

You're assuming so much about so many people dude. Do you even see it? 1) Men who want children all work hard to be the best they can to have them. 2) There is actually a state where you can be the best father you can. (Do you have any kids?) 3) The men you describe are on average looking below a certain threshold (Do you think world works like the character building in a video game or DD? Like everyone has the same amount of points to distribute and if someone has 10 in charism, it means their …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:33 AM
1

What? I'm sure you know a lot of people better at things you want to be good at more than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:33 PM
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You're stereotyping guys type in the most stupid way I have ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:30 PM
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I do not see how this and being a good father are exclusives in any way... could you explain your train of thought about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:05 PM
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In typical evolutionary biology, providing ressources is considered parental investment, yes. And I think it doesn't apply here because parental investment theory is not something we can slap on any species. We are not very knowledgeable on the mating strategies and social structures of early humans and strongly cooperative species are always problematic to the basic evolutionary models. Selection mechanisms get very complex and "noisy" the more levels you add. So it becomes more and more diffic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:54 PM
0

This...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:45 PM
0

What are those characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:42 PM
-1

Why would the boring guy be a better father than the fun one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:40 PM
0

The men who want to be fathers the most, and would make for good fathers, are having the hardest time dating and starting families. How do you know they would make great fathers if they can't be fathers at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:39 PM
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Jesus... first time I here a naturalistic point of view here who knows more about biology and evolution than the 3 bullshit simplistic take parroted by evo-psych. Congrats! Nevertheless, I would still be very careful about the parental investment theory in species who are cooperative breeders, like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:36 PM

It seems that in your scenario, two type of people leave the dating pool. 1) Men who are ugly or below average in most metrics AND would be content with any robotic AI thing to replace a person. Aka the ones who seriously need to touch grass and are chronically disconnected from the world and brainwashed by dark internet bullshit. 2) Women who are gold-digging and only care about superficial shit like money and abs. Aka the ones who are disconnected from reality and brainwashed by idiotic tiktok…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:13 PM
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Insulting someone, threatening someone, publicly shaming someone, etc. Saying that you believe it is selfish to not get a vasectomy when you don't want kids anymore while your partner endured all the consequences and responsibility of contraception on top of carrying and birthing the couple's children is not bullying. Because now, please answer this question : if the couple doesn't want kids anymore and the man doesn't get a vasectomy, then what should be done to avoid future pregnancies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:03 PM
1

Where did I bully random men on the internet and said we deserved the right to do it please? What "bad things" are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:59 AM
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No. It's women's fault... 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:44 AM
1

K. bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:35 PM
1

I never said any of this. And you're not answering my questions nor my takes. This is not a conversation sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:39 PM
1

In regards to being 99% the same were close enough with Neanderthals to interbrees are they human? The border of the definition of the concept of species are moving, like it is for the definition of any concepts. But if we were able to interbreed to produce fertile hybrids with no hybrid depression, then yes. We would probably indeed at least end up being the same species. But this has nothing to do with the idea of considering males and females from sexually dimorphic species as different speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:11 PM
3

Man of my dream or not, I'll ask if we should go get breakfast? I mean what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:07 PM
1

We are a good 99% physically the same yes. And yes I understand the sentence but don't see how it's a good thing in any case to have cultural narratives that say something entirely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:06 PM
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What now? We girl changed the definition of rape? And how is that related to my comment at all? Do you know WHO wrote the definition of rape in most countries law? And WHEN. In my country, feminists association are the ones responsible for the whole campaign to remove the "penis in vagina" part of the rape legal definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:03 PM
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If she's scared and you're not. It is simply normal. I live with 6 girls, 2 of us aren't bothered by spiders, so when we are here, we take them out. It would be stupid to ask someone scared to do something that is 10 times more difficult for them than for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:01 PM
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the challenge is making sure they feel valued and appreciated for their contributions. Not letting it become the expectation and leading to resentment. This is extremely spot on. Particularly the nuance between needed and expected, that a lot of people don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:50 PM
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So to make him feel useful and needed I ask him to... do something random I can perfectly do? My man IS useful, therefore needed, therefore I don't have to stage situation where I need him. Because I do need him. Wtf....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:47 PM
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Slower for the thick ones in the back. "If you describe a rape, without saying it's a rape, a LOT of men answer that they would do it."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:45 PM
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We are not the same species basically, sexually dimorphic species should really be considered two different species that are so symbiotic that they are grouped together. Obviously this is not the scientific truth but it should be the cultural narrative. This is ridiculous. Where do you draw the line to sexual dimorphism?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:42 PM
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Then don't step out onto that ledge...? You dont have to abandon yourself in a relation with a man you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:32 PM
2

Hem... I love my boyfriend, if a situation is dangerous, I don't want him more than me to go to the front line wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:31 PM
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Thank you for this level of sanity. Also : I'm 6'3 and 110kg. None of that means anything against a group of three 5'6 boys, all intent on jumping me at the same time. Or one boy with a knife. Or a gun. Or from behind. Or catching me off guard. I would like to add that in my experience (woman) physically imposant men who look strong and quite impressive tend to be attacked more by stupid and aggressive men in the streets. It's like they make a good target (it's more socially rewarding to take do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:29 PM
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Everyone has to judge if their date is safe. Is the risk for danger higher as a hetero woman, yes. But it's still something that everyone has to judge upon meeting someone. all the male has to do is demonstrate that he's reliable, trustworthy, dependable, has structure, can plan things, discipline, focus, direction, he can protect and provide. That's a lot. Do YOU have all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:24 PM

Graduated women are graduated women. They graduated. Wtf are you talking about ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:14 PM

"But its not exceptional of course! Neither is my score (1600 just in case, if you're curious🤓) at the maths SAT. " I'm still waiting for the moment he'll "discreetly" slip his IQ in a comment. ..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:43 AM

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:40 AM

How important is the "rank" of the academic institution you went to in the US is crazy to me. I guess these top institutions are also obviously more expensive than the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:40 AM

The guy is in finance? Hahah oh god. And he spends his time speaking about doing important stuff and doing maths? "C'est du p'tit lait".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:38 AM
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Where did I say "kill all men" is acceptable? well it has less impact because it's women saying it* That is what you understood from my comment? Jesus sorry but this will be a far too tiring conversation. I said what I wanted to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:15 AM
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All these lies start to be a bit sad... I hope you find a way to get a bit better. My time was used enough on you. Have a nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:56 PM
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point me out to ONE place I said this makes me impressive or a genius. The fact that you truly believe that the "blabla" about mediocrity you serve after each of your announcements actually convince anyone but (eventually) yourself that you're not showing off is the funniest part. You lack social and communication literacy that most 12 years old kids already have. You sound deranged and on the verge of a break down. You sound like you hate yourself and hate others even more for not hating themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:42 PM
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No. You need to heal that ugly wound because it will not help you be a better or more clever or more successful or happier person. But you don't get to bring others to your pathetic state of mind just so it hurts a bit less for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:34 PM
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Some of them got their lunch stolen at school and after reading them, you kind of understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:32 PM
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Everything is a dick measuring contest to you. Fascinating... You're a teenage boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:30 PM
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Understand your point overall (and agree) but maths teachers is a bit too narrow. Most researchers in field with maths know their basic derivatives on top of their head just because they use and need them so much. Economy, biology, engineering. Basically anything that deals with dynamic systems will and have to know that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:27 PM
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First class student with 1600 at SAT in HIGH SCHOOL!!! In action here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:24 PM
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Dude... you spend quite the time spreading around how great/clever you are for someone complaining about "boss babe" who show off too much while you are so humble. Are we gonna be graced by your IQ results too in another comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:21 PM
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You are annoyed at your self-hate problem And instead of working on that, you direct that annoyance to people who do not have self-harm problems. You could wish for a life without self hate. But instead, you prefer to wish for others to self hate like you! And you complain that you are the one hating yourself while you do good. But you specifically complain about the fact that other people should hate themselves more. Ha... poor guy. Like it will not get better that way sorry. You're just lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:17 PM

to say that this has nothing to do with gender is absurd because rather we acknowledge it or not there is bias towards whats being said from a certain sex to were context doesn't matter. Who said it had nothing to do with gender? It has everything to do with gender. And the materialist reality of gender in a system. Which is what we call "context" The rest of the comment is just more proof that I didn't succeed in explaining any of this to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:12 PM
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But he knows how to derive "the" quadratic formula!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:43 PM
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Why on earth would you assume I'm american? I'm just saying that if some classified documents came out that they had data/DNA records on their citizens i wouldn't be surprised at all And how easier and more probable on large scale would that be if we simply all joyfully sign up for DNA extraction and analysis at birth for ALL citizen? Your argument is literally "there is a chance that this is already happening at some level, so we may simply just facilitate it on large scale." Clever boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:29 PM

Because there is regulations in place. Extracting DNA demand specific material and protocols. There would be proof It is done illegally very easily. Your argument is stupid. The states can do whatever they want with the support of the army. So why not already give them absolute totalitarian power? Anyway if they wanted it, they could take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:10 PM

Labs doing blood tests are not able to extract DNA from said blood tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:21 AM
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Saying something is selfish is not guilt tripping, degrading, gaslighting nor humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:45 AM

About the feasibility and the like. We don't even automaticly DNA test children at birth for important life altering diseases or mutations which could be taken care of if known before. We don't even automaticly DNA test people before they have kids to tell them if they may pass on dangerous life altering mutations. If we were to start automatic DNA test, I guess this would be a priority over paternity no? Additionally, did it cross your mind that in this world, a LOT of people may be very oppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:43 AM

The next obstacle is how you expect to develop the infrastructure for this. There are nowhere near enough labs to do 10,000 unnecessary DNA tests per day; we don't even have the capacity to keep up with DNA testing for criminal cases. Where are these labs coming from? Where are these DNA techs coming from? What controls do you have in place to prevent contamination, mixing up samples, false "positives," and tampering? What are your plans to identify and deal with rare DNA anomalies like chimeris…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:04 AM
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Ah GTFO with that material reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:57 PM
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Disagreeing is not shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:55 PM
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Acknowledging that a man refusing to take a risk to avoid future unwanted pregnancies in his relationship, after the woman took them for years* on top of carrying the children and giving birth to them, is selfish. Is not shaming. It's a fact. Outside of a vasectomy, what should be done then, for the couple to continue to have a healthy sex life without the risk of pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:55 PM
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Because in these stories, women took health risks, health responsibilities and health inconveniences for years in order for the couple to have a nice sexual life with controlled reproduction. They also carried and gave birth to their children, risking their lives and long term health, and suffering like crazy for this. When the time comes that both of them decide kids are off the table, refusing to do that in turn is actually kind of selfish. I would personally feel like my partner refuses to ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:51 PM
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None of it is coercing...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:43 PM
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The context of hateful or toxic comments doesn’t make them acceptable, and dismissing them as jokes or satire doesn’t change their impact. Yes the context precisely change their impact. "Kill all gays" does not have the same impact than "Kill all heteros" in a context where gay people get robbed, beaten and killed because they hold hands in the street. Its freaking obvious. A 17 years old saying "I hate my mom" doesn't have the same impact than a mom saying "I hate my 18 years old son". People a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:41 PM
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No. Hate is not hate. DISCLAIMER for people with limited comprehension skills: this is not a comparison between the situation discussed and the situation in my following example. It is a demonstration that all "hates" are not the same, do not mean the same and should not be seen and dealt with the same. If we rewind some centuries ago. Imagine a white person owning slaves and hating black people. He tortures them because he hates them. Now imagine a slave of this man, who hates white people. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:34 PM
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It's easy to recognize which one is not satire. You know how? When you give power to someone saying "your body, my choice" and they do try to take away your rights, you know it is not satire...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:29 PM
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"In situation of power, equality feels like oppression."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:27 PM
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People on reddit vehemently oppose men who leaves the children who are not theirs What you mean by oppose? Most time what I see is people saying that about kids that are old. They are basically telling that the kid didn't do anything wrong, and that the father loves the kid, and that the kid loves the father, and that in this case, leaving and abandoning every rights and responsibilities about the kid may add more trauma and awful consequences to an already super fucked up situation. I don't see…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:23 PM

If there is a clear breadwinner that makes 70% of the money, I might expect that person to do 30% of the work rather than 50%. I disagree. I'm a scientist doing what I absolutely LOVE 8hours a day. I take my breaks, it's chill. If my partner is a construction worker working similar hours but making 70% of my salary, there is no universe it would be fair to ask him to make more chores because he gets paid less. He's probably more tired or at least as tired as me when coming home...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:03 AM
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You are the one who did this analogy. I said that this analogy is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:28 PM

Where did I say women were selfless?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:25 PM

Yes, people leave a relationship when the relationship is not satisfying. And if you feel a relationship can be compared to a shitty job you don't like maybe here is your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:18 PM

Yes, people leave a relationship when the relationship is not satisfying. And if you feel a relationship can be compared to a shitty job you don't like maybe here is your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:18 PM

Yes I would actually, I'm doing what I love. Like someone in relationships should.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:55 PM
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Yes top 20% of people in any field where they're top 20% have less struggle in said field than the other 80%. I mean that's HOW they became the 20%.... Is that the big news?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:33 PM

"If I'm acting awful, it's because women reward this, it's not my fault." On a post about accountability... .... .......
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:29 PM
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I do tend to notice sexually or romantically ~ 20% of guies my age range at most. But this 20% is not the richest, tallest, squared jawest, huge dickest and famoustest men around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:10 PM
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Data and science from trust me bro university. Analyzed thoroughly by someone with plenty experience in the field of science, with absolutely no bias in what they'd like the data to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:09 PM

Well if their bonds release different chemicals, it’s extremely unlikely they’re even in terms of bonding power then. Actually, most studies on the subjects are on some kind of monogamous voles and tend to show that the neurological and chemical sex specific differences related to pair bonding actually allow them to counteract their physiological differences in order to end up having similar behaviors. So quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:47 PM

And you are infering women in general from your "dates"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:40 PM
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you are biologically wired to take care of your loved ones Which is very well done by offering offsprings care, cooking, cleaning, etc. children need that nurturing presence during their early stages of development and childhood, so if you do choose to go along with that route, you are far better off with the mother staying home with the kids to look after them. Why do you think men aren't able to offer such a nurturing presence? Ps: What do you mean by "biological imperative" exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:38 PM
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Women don't have very large amygdalas or hypothalami, which plays a huge part in how sensitive people are to visual stimulation, hormone sensitivity and ability to pair bond. Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:24 PM

Nobody wants to pay full price for a used game and women’s value does go down with every man they let use and abuse them. What you mean by use and abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:11 PM
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My 163cm boyfriend is too! And broke as fuck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:45 PM

Please keep this ridiculous attempt at biology away form this discussion on hypergamy which is a word used in sociology to speak about women marrying up on social status in the context of enforced monogamy. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:44 PM
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Why do you think men cater to women? Because, in recent history, probably since the shrinkage of extended family units, the most frequently and strongly highlighted "argument" to convince women to enter a relationship and thus, offer sex, access to paternity and domestic work, was men's ability to provide financial and material ressources. Why are women more in demand? In my opinion, for the simple reason that today, life goals shifted from having kids to take care of the family inheritance and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:24 AM
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No. Because I don't care about this question and my background in neurobiology and behavioral biology allows me to know almost for sure that there is no way to answer this question. We don't have the knowledge, the consensus, or anything like that. If this question interest you, find literature reviews on the subject in neurosciences and educate yourself. Chatgpt will be a lot better used in helping you understand the reviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:42 PM
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I'm a scientist. I do that when I'm interested in a subject, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:37 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:35 PM
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I'm obligated to nothing. Who do you think you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:08 PM
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Don't you think anyone besides you has better things to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:48 PM
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Hahahaha Jesus. I use it all the time to help me in the reference searching part of my work. It has no idea about anything. It will tell you it found XY in this research, and you check it and see that no... it's all wrong. It's so funny you feel like this proves anything. After a long debate, you could make it agree with extremely ridiculous claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:24 PM
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So you fed it "facts" from trust me bro university and then asked it if it agrees with the conclusion coming from these facts? Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:20 PM
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Are you, by any mean, asking us to demonstrate with examples that human females are able to use and understand logic? Is that really the essence of your post here? Do you think emotions are by essence illogical?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:28 PM
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If it's free, you're the product. Getting free cocaine foes with being raped, harassed and seen as an object. In the same way most women may not be able to understand what it means to be invisible. Most men are not able to understand what it means to be a prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:44 PM
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Maybe my men are lying, maybe I'm especially beautiful, maybe you're wrong. Answer 2 is highly improbable, answers 1 and 3 are more probable in my opinion. I believe in answer 3. Because 8 experienced first hand how the beauty of someone just grew during my relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:39 PM
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Even if we look at the sex industry, that requirements for a male performer highly exceed that of a female performer while they often get paid less. Depends on the porn... there is plenty of data on the physical risks associated with a lot of heterosexual porn. Higher risks of getting infected by STDs, chronic UTIs, vaginal tearing, anal tearing, anal incontinence, etc. For the rest of your post, I all boils down to demand. The demand for dating is higher in men than it is in female. As the dema…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:15 PM
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No. Not designed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:56 PM
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And in any case, our sensitivity to environmental and social cues is, indeed, biological and an evolved trait. So there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:45 PM
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Close phylogenetic relationship does not mean similar social structure, behaviors, etc. Our closest phylogenetic relatives are chimp and bonobos. The animal we use the most as a model organism for human social behavior is the vervet monkey, which is so far that it still has a tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:32 PM
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None of that says anything about how we evolved or what is biological or not. It says how things are, after 10'000 years of monogamy and the abandonment of tribe lifestyle. It tells a lot about how our cultural background may shape our behavior. But nothing about our "biology" which is what I was discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:28 PM
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Your link list as an argument to why large animals would be important that they were easy to hunt. It seems to contradict your point that it was only for men because dangerous and hard to get... Also, I didn't read it all, but they're all about the fact the megafauna went extinct following us as an indicator that we ate them a lot. Megafauna were super K species with close to no predators. K species are very very low on resilience. Aka they're extremely sensitive to disturbance in the system, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:13 PM
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Humans are a dissimulated oestrus species. There was 0 insurance of paternity before enforced monogamy entered the game probably less than 10'000 years ago, and not I every groups. Researches show that if you put any baby in the close care of any person (male or female, biological parent or not), the neurological and hormonal state of offspring-caretaker relationship is the same after a few weeks/months. Our instinct is to care for our little ones. We specifically evolved the capacity to get tie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:01 PM
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as in other primate societies most women choose the men in power. The one’s with the resources, the skills to continually acquire those resources and the skills to protect those resources. There is hundreds of primate species, with various social structures, reproductive habits, and in a lot of them, cultural differences where individuals tend to do X and prefer Y in a group and to do Z and prefer W in another. You know literally nothing about what you are talking about, sorry. You're talking ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:51 PM
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We are cooperative breeders. Kids were raised by the group, not by mommy and daddy. And the group is 50% other females.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:45 PM
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Also, from my understanding most of the time when we scavenged for food it was due to times of struggle or when we’re incapable of catching tons of large game. It's the opposite. Large game hunting is dangerous, you don't do that if there is plenty of food around. You hunt large game in winter, when your stocks are low and easier food is scarce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:44 PM
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Because in biology, nothing is designed. In any conversation on evolution, it's the LAST word you want to use. And if you did make some research, you wouldn't use that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:36 PM
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You didn't answer the question. How do you know any of these things you observed are due to how women's bodies are "designed" (again, awful choice of word)?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:20 PM
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If women participated in these things same proportion as men. Let’s say 50% men 50% women. The men most likely brought back 70% of the food during scavenges if not more. And you came out with these numbers how exactly? And as for hunts, most women only hunted small game with the occasion of hunting large game still accompanied by many men. Big game required tons of men, just like a war requires tons of men. And it is known that big game was a quite small percentage of the calorie intake of a gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:16 PM
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And how did you get these infos about how womens bodies were "designed" (great word choice to speak about biology by the way...)?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:49 PM
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If you are 100% sure... Because your a specialist on the matter or you did thorough researches on the subject I guess. Right? Foraging and hunting small animals require no physical strength. I don't see how this relies on sports?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:48 PM
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Your life's experiences can't prove shit. Your one data point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:47 PM
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Yes women took part in some resource acquisition but men obtained the bulk of it. 80% of food were taken from foraging and small animals hunting. Female participated in those activities in the same proportion as Male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:41 PM
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First and foremost: What you mean by biologically and how do we infer what is attractive or not biologically?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:39 PM

Essentially women use sex as a trading system and a reward system This is true, women are able to use sex that way and do it. The fun thing is that you think men don't. And even more, that the reasons they don't some kind of fundamental thing linked to male sexuality. I think men rarely use sex in these way because the sex they offer does not have significant market value to women as a whole. Gay men absolutely use sex as trade and/or reward. Because there is demand. Hetero men usually don't, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:35 AM
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I want more couples to be well adjusted to be together. So I want less guies willing to pretend anything just to get random partners. R
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:34 PM
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Please do.... like really, nothing would make me more happy than men being less desperate and willing to put up with anything for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:45 PM
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gamble everything he's built up Evertything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:31 PM
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There is basically nothing more valuable a woman can bring to compensate for all of those years In your vision of a LTR and what you get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:28 PM
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https://www.who.int/teams/global-hiv-hepatitis-and-stis-programmes/hiv/prevention/voluntary-medical-male-circumcision WHO propose voluntary male circumcision to fight AIDS in Easter and southern Africa. Aka for populations who don't have good access to other measures to prevent it. https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/prenatal/decisions-to-make/Pages/Where-We-Stand-Circumcision.aspx However, existing scientific evidence is not sufficient to recommend routine circumcision. Therefor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:25 PM
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Well they shouldn't for something that has that small benefit. In most european countries, doctors can't perform it unless there is a medical or religious problem. And even for phymosis, other procedures are used.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:58 PM
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Yes, probably, but it doesn't mean that women shouldn't take care of this and learn to deconstruct that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:56 PM
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Well, you can chose for yourself, not for newborns.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:51 PM
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Risk-comfort/benefits are to account for. Most of European males have uncircumcised penises and there isn't any problem. Other substantially less intrusive and hurtful measures are a lot more efficient in preventing these problems. So why use this one when all the others are available?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:32 PM

Agree. In no universe circumcision should be something outside of medical problem. And it's weird to prefer it over normal penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:29 PM
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BBC is not giving their sources when they cite studies? WTF now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:26 PM
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It's weird that people treat a random person better than their spouse all in name of unconditional love. I think it is more simply because the level of seduction and all that that you are on at the beginning of a relationship is simply not holdable in the long run. It's easy to spend hours getting ready and getting all pretty tired visit your new partner 2 times a week. It's not when you're going straight to their house after your active day. It's easy to be ALL about your partner at the beginni…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:20 PM
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<image> Not gonna lie, I did giggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:50 PM
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Yes I do, also, I don't plan on dating again, as I want my boyfriend to stay my partner for life and he shares my political beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:33 PM
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I only witnessed two of these, one with a guy I knew, one with someone in my circle, both were true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:35 PM
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Good post. I think I do agree with most reasons you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:10 PM

Most people I know met through school, friends groups, concert party, or work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:15 AM
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You do you, but people who need kids in order to get purpose generally make quite lame and shitty parents. Your kids will turn to you when in search of purpose, if you don't know what to tell them beside "Well, that's why I had you.", I guess you'll be of little help, and they generally need it. For the same reason Michelangelo wouldn’t appreciate TODAY’s half-assed, cheap art. Does he hate art? No, he’d hate what it’s become. Ohhhh... I see, someone has big opinions about things here. I don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:38 PM
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Never asked why I couldn’t get a woman. I don’t want one. Nice. That's a very good point Tbh, I want kids, Why? I just want a son and daughter. Why? You said you don't appreciate the presence of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:01 PM

I mean, I'm close friends with a fair share of men, and what I described is their dating experience. We probably do not live within the same demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:44 AM
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And it can be measured scientifically because: And it has been measured that way and they showed it was 3 months? The other thing is a survey (not science) about saying I love you to someone. Saying I love you doesn't mean you love someone. And don't saying it doesn't mean you don't love someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:14 PM
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The demographic using OKC was very different than the demographic using tinder at this point. You knew where to go to find what.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:38 PM
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I have huge doubt about monogamy being the result of "millions year" of human evolution. But I may be wrong as the evolutionary history of Homo is not my field. Nevertheless, i know some things that make me doubt. 1) Modern humans are only 300'000 years old, not millions. 2) Only around 10% of human societies where monogamous until last century. 3) If I remember well, recent genetic analysis seem to indicate that some monogamy may only have emerged 20 to 10k years ago, which would make sense as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:14 PM
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I have huge doubt about monogamy being the result of "millions year" of human evolution. But I may be wrong as the evolutionary history of Homo is not my field. Nevertheless, i know some things that make me doubt. 1) Modern humans are only 300'000 years old, not millions. 2) Only around 10% of human societies where monogamous until last century. 3) If I remember well, recent genetic analysis seem to indicate that some monogamy may only have emerged 20 to 10k years ago, which would make sense as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:14 PM
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I have huge doubt about monogamy being the result of "millions year" of human evolution. But I may be wrong as the evolutionary history of Homo is not my field. Nevertheless, i know some things that make me doubt. 1) Modern humans are only 300'000 years old, not millions. 2) Only around 10% of human societies where monogamous until last century. 3) If I remember well, recent genetic analysis seem to indicate that some monogamy may only have emerged 20 to 10k years ago, which would make sense as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:13 PM
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I have huge doubt about monogamy being the result of "millions year" of human evolution. But I may be wrong as the evolutionary history of Homo is not my field. Nevertheless, i know some things that make me doubt. 1) Modern humans are only 300'000 years old, not millions. 2) Only around 10% of human societies where monogamous until last century. 3) If I remember well, recent genetic analysis seem to indicate that some monogamy may only have emerged 20 to 10k years ago, which would make sense as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:13 PM
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Oh, ok. Genuine question here, would you rather not have sex with him at all? Or what would be the ideal time for you? Also, are you religious? You don't have to answer these questions obviously, I'm mostly trying to understand a posture that is very distant from mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:51 PM
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For sure. I'm not questioning that! You're entitled to any standard you want. I was wondering if YOU didn't have any problem waiting 3 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:06 PM
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If you know what you want, you don't need to go to 100 dates. You need to go to 100 dates if you go to any date you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:05 PM
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App. 2.4 billions adult men with an internet connection. More than 220 millions OF users. You can do the calculation yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:04 PM
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Sorry but I discovered you on this post and just, I think you are quite awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:10 AM
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If a man doesn’t want to wait 3 months I’ll just assume I’m not valued as a person and ghost. I understand how you may think that, but I don't feel the same. I wouldn't be with someone who wants to wait 3months, it's simply doesn't align with my views and my needs in a relationship. The average length of time it takes to fall in love for women is 90 days. Ho wow. Do you have source for that? I fall in love in days. Then it just gets stronger and stronger. If a man wants to be ambiguous and vague…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:08 AM
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Women who want commitment can wait until they get it before having sex. See... I feel like an alien here because in my experience and what I see around me, there was an explicit mention of the contrary, the moment you had one or two "date" with someone and had sex, you're not fucking anyone else. This idea of people going to multiple repeated dates every week or months with several people and act kind of romantic with all of them (sex or not) is something I never did and never saw. When you go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:50 AM
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You do you but I have a question. When you say "You make them wait", it kind of implies that you don't have a problem waiting?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:41 AM
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Why would someone have sex on the first date? Because you developed sexual attraction to the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:39 AM
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There is barber shop in every freaking street where i live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:04 AM
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Well, maybe you don't know the right people then. You're free to live how you want. But it is your view of a "fullfilling" life. Sex is worthy for me, and it hasn't many influence on my life. If I can have it with a loving partner, it's a great addition. Otherwise, well, I'll miss out a bit but it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:55 PM
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Well, maybe you don't know the right people then. You're free to live how you want. But it is your view of a "fullfilling" life. Sex is worthy for me, and it hasn't many influence on my life. If I can have it with a loving partner, it's a great addition. Otherwise, well, I'll miss out a bit but it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:55 PM
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But you don't learn from women telling you that sex is absolutely worth it? In the right conditions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:05 PM
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But you didn't say you didn't like it. You said it was worthless. You can't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:36 PM
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How would you know as you never had it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:27 PM
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Let's be real, we are not producing good men. They are socially awkward, lazy, addicted to video games and pornography. They don't make good partners. What specific demographic are you talking about? I know plenty of men and most of them are hundreds of kilometers from any of these things. Do these kind of men exist? Sure! But you can't say "men" and then describe that! It's awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:23 PM
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Securing commitment and resources will not make the sex any better. It's actually the worst thing you can do because you'd actually HAVE to provide sex to fulfill your end of the "deal". If that's the life you want, have fun, but personally I would be very dissatisfied by being some kind of long term prostitute exchanging sex for resources and commitments. Within a true loving relationship, sex will be good 90% of the time. You just have to select well and to take the time. The ability to listen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:15 PM
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This other commenter seem to think that sex, for women, can't be anything else that a currency to lock down men. She's a virgin so it's not surprising. She simply doesn't know how great sex with a great partner feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:05 PM
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Women want GOOD sex. And the proportion of sex altogether that is good enough sex is FAR tinier for women than men. Do plenty of women still want good sex? Oh yes. Are they able to get it? Can be very difficult. Do a lot of them just stop trying or don't bother that much because of how little is the probability that the sex will be good? Yes, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:04 PM
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No, the only concern is to find out right on the spot of the first date and having to say "It's really not gonna fit here... bye!" And yes, in general, when a date goes well, people see each other again very quick, or end up in bed. The difference is that I know no one who's going to a different date every week. People around me go on dates with people they carefully selected, then either never go to another one, or know relationship is a possibility and go very fast toward that straight to that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:59 PM
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It's so funny that you can't conceive viewing sex as nice and not as a currency you offer to men to get something out of it with anything else than just fucking everyone you meet or engaging in hookup culture. Your views are so narrow. I truly believe that women who spend their lives trying to avoid fuckboys who will pump and dump them are simply unable to see how poor they are at selecting their potential date/partner. I never waited a stupid threshold of dates to have sex with someone. If I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:56 PM
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Couples go clubbing at the same rate as other in my experience...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:48 PM
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So you agree with me that the commenter I answered to is wrong. The fact women go to mixed clubs do not mean they go in order to attract men or get mens validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:13 PM
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Ewww... I encourage all women to have sex with men if they like and want to without trying to take anything else that that from it. I'm not "giving out" free sex. I enjoy the sex I have, it's not some kind of charity. Maybe the answer is more that women like you stop considering sex as some kind of currency you exchange for other things you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:10 PM
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Clearly women are upset with the current dating market, y'all are scared that you could be dating a covert redpiller, pick up artist, ect He... where do you get that from? I'm not scared of that and don't know any of my feminist friends who is. I'm pretty sure I'll not end up dating any of these. And if it happens I'll see it fast and end things... what's the big deal? Most men don't want to wait till marriage or wait 3 months to get to know you before sex but most women don't wanna put out on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:08 PM
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Obviously not ENOUGH demand for such a club, knowing the COST of such a club every night of the year. But for the reasons I stated, not because everyone goes in a club to find sexual partners or sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:46 PM
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When there is an all women night, it's always full. But you understand that HALF the population is a quite heavy cut for a club right? Most people also have mixed friends groups with couples in it. An all women club would lose even more clients as all the women in these social group would go to the mixed ones so they can be with their friends/boyfriends/friends who want to go with their boyfriends, etc. By the way, the few times I went to all women nights, the outfits, hairs, make up, were 5 tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:42 PM
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You're the one making extraordinary claim on the basis of a book written by mister no body. At this point, you are asking me to provide actual research disproving the existence of unicorns. Science don't do that sorry. The one with the extraordinary claim, brings the extraordinary proofs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:21 AM
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What all women club?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:02 AM
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So you do thing that NO ONE subscribing to OF is healthy? (Off topic, but I honestly believe most of these school shootings we're having in the USA wouldn't be occurring if these young men had a good girlfriend to occupy themselves with) 🤮🤮🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:58 AM
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App. 2.4 billions adult men with an internet connection. More than 220 millions OF users. You can do the calculation yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:55 AM
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I mean sex does takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:02 PM
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And so what? Bu...bububut a lot of people... and so you argue that what you saw is a feature?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:02 PM
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How do you decide which consumptions indicate "healthy" people and which ones "in need for help"? Where is the limit to this? Can I say that we should stop manufacturing videogames, alcohol and ski because they're either used for unhealthy coping or are just plain dangerous for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:00 PM
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Ah yes... the famous women that are desperate to.have men date them. Exactly the demographic we hear squealing day and night on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:55 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:53 PM
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Because profitable skills don't necessarily mean being able to make 100k in some months to invest them/pay back your loans, what do I know. Because not all great skills are paying back a lot of money when you use them. It makes perfect sense that someone smart, given the opportunity to make a lot of money in a short time, would accept it, if the job is ok to them. because most sex workers don’t earn a lot. Well, making 300 to 500 an hour at least once a week and more if you want is a shitload of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:52 PM
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I'm all in but not sure it'll help anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:47 PM
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You'd feel better with warnings on porn and OF? "Warning! This service may cause addiction. Also, those girls do not... I REPEAT, Those girls do NOT like you for real! You pay them to make you feel like it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:28 PM
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Are you implying 10% of men with an internet connection on earth are emotionally vulnerable people we should prevent from making their own choices because they're too driven by their dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:26 PM
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So you are for the cessation of anything commercial obviously?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:24 PM
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And you know that they are outliers because you have specific knowledge of the stats of this population right? So you know who's more than 1.5 times the interquantil range over the 75% in therms of educations and skills. Share your sources on sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:11 PM
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Source : trust me bro university.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:43 PM
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Source : trust me bro university.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:42 PM
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I would not be so fast assuming that sexual content providers don't have any other marketable skills. It's quite common for very skillfull people to go do what is the most financially rewarding, wether or not it's what they have the most skills in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:50 PM
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THIS I saw an entire feminist summer camp fall to pieces over sex work. Sex work is a HUGE part of the dissentions in the feminist movement (and I mean MOVEMENT) not bullshit normie supported by corporation instagram liberal "feminism".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:48 PM
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But now we have Only Fans, a site where women are "empowered" to toy with the emotions of men for financial gain. And every porn star has an OF. Modern prostitutes can do their job without even having to deal with how ugly or smelly the guy is. Last time I check, it's a man who did more than 600 millions from OnlyFans users and the work of the content creators there. Aditionnally, I wonder why you would say that offering a service like this one is "toying" with the emotions of men and exploiting…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:45 PM
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When did men lose free will? If you listen to these guies, when "evolution" gave them a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:13 PM
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And? The jump.to your other point is quite impressive no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:12 PM
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If women where rejecting men with prosocial behaviors and selecting the ones with dangerous traits. And if that was "biology" we wouldn't be one of the most cooperative and peaceful species existing...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:10 PM
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On the other hand... it's less easy to find women serial killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:08 PM
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More internet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:06 PM
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More internet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:06 PM
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Hahaha you saw an opportunity for dick measuring contest and you JUMPED in. See, it's YOU that desperately want to compete and fight with other men. Nothing to do with women, it's your own little projection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:04 PM
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You need 15 minutes of me face-mashing and tongue-fucking your funky bleedbox to get off. "But why can't I get any woman". Dude, the entirety of this message screams that the problem is you. And I mean, your problem....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:01 PM
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This is ridiculous...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:56 PM
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There’s a 30% high rate of fatherhood among the prison population than among the civilian population. Prison population is made out of a vast majority of men from poor backgrounds. You know what population has more children? Yes... the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:54 PM
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Where, in this story, the woman is putting two men to fight each other so she can chose which one she wants? Where? Are women now responsible for these men being so violent and having so little things in life outside of "womenwomenwomenwomen" that they will kill other men for that? Like is it now OUR fault? Are men never responsible for any awful thing they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:50 PM
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You just proved that there is cultural background showing men beating up other men over a potential mate without asking anything to the interested. Not that women like it or use that to chose...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:43 PM
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If evolutionnary psychology actually did say that women put potential partners in mental death matches in order to chose them. We would be denying it. But I'm pretty sure you would have difficulties finding a handful of published papers that actually show that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:39 PM
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This guy ? Aaron Clarey is an American blogger, author, and financial consultant. I should start writing pseudo scientific books stroking naive people the right way... I could fund actual research with the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:57 AM
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Obviously, but it seems like this guy think there is too much pursuing expected from him in the early dating stages and not enough coming from the ladies. I don't think the chances of finding a woman who don't expect to be overly "pursued" is that slow that he should decide to stop dating altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:56 PM
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Well he has problem with the pursuing part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:47 PM
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Its not just about approaching but pursuing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:13 PM
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I wonder how someone can state such a huge extraordinary fact without providing any of the extraordinary proof it should need.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:14 PM
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Sex is obviously a very strong incentive for men. Probably more than for women as it makes quite a lot of sense that in animals, the males with the strongest incentives to mate, probably did overall reproduce a lot more. So it is very reasonable to think that being very very interested and motivated by the pursue of sex is an evolved trait that was strongly selected for. Now, the mechanisms behind this strong incentive, I don't know it very well, but it is likely that its strength is not continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:12 PM
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Sex is obviously a very strong incentive for men. Probably more than for women as it makes quite a lot of sense that in animals, the males with the strongest incentives to mate, probably did overall reproduce a lot more. So it is very reasonable to think that being very very interested and motivated by the pursue of sex is an evolved trait that was strongly selected for. Now, the mechanisms behind this strong incentive, I don't know it very well, but it is likely that its strength is not continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:12 PM
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I don't really think the examples you give are actually contradictory. Someone being successful is not always linked to money, and I feel like it is healthy to find pleasure in providing beneficial things to your partner life. Whether they need it or not. I also think that shaving is not a sign of style or wanting to appear beautiful. And the other way around, not shaving does not mean the person isn't interested in their look. Overall, it's funny, you seem like my boyfriend . I am pursuing my s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:03 PM
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Yes... it takes time and sacrifice to free oneself from societal pressure to act and present a certain way. It has cost. Societal pressure always work by punishing AND rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:30 PM
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I think that if trans people know that in full knowledge of the situation, their partner would not have consented to sex with them, it is absolutely the same. It's clear and conscious consent violation. Because they KNOW their partner doesn't want to have sex with them in this context. Now, be careful, there is a difference between lying or not disclosing something. No one says that someone not saying they're broke or not telling their age, is a violation of consent. If something is important fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:57 PM
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It's a clear, conscious, and shameless display of disdain for consent. So I will judge that as being an asshole that should be avoided. Is it the kind of actions that makes me wary of the ability of the person to do worst to obtain what they want? Yes. Do I think it's a tiny piece of the bigger problem we have around sex and consent? Yes. Does it have the same consequences (and therefore gravity) than sexual abuse or rape? No. Absolutely not and it's really idiotic and dangerous to argue that it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:48 PM
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It's stupid. If they want people to approach, then maybe they should approach also.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:40 PM
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Obviously it's understandable. He's right to not force himself to assume a role he doesn't want as I don't think otherwise, the relationships he would get would make him happy. But it would be sad that he just goes celibate thinking he has no chance because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:39 PM
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I don't even see how your comment contradict mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:32 AM
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And you are right. Also in the sense that how we experience and response to our environment IS actually our nature. It's determined genetically too. We evolved the ability to mold our behavior through culture, education, pairs observation, etc. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:24 PM
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Just came to point out that differences in behaviors can have so so so much more reasons that "brain chemistry". Additionally, brain is plastic. Like how it is wired changes depending on what you do, think, experience, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:50 PM
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Women date single dads all the time. Actually men date single moms all the time also. When you fall in love with someone, sometimes you put some things aside, or become willing to do things you didn't thought you would before. Otherwise, yes I don't see why anyone should be offended that people don't want to date them. Sure it feels bad, but where is the offense?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:25 PM
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Would a single 35 year old woman who's bio clock hasn't run out yet and wants kids, but it's getting late in the game, sign up for a relationship with a single dad who has joint custody of his two kids 80+ percent of the time, whose ex gets the kids every other weekend, and the guy told her he's "done" having kids and he basically just wants a wife to fuck, help pay bills, keep the house clean, and cook? Hu... yes all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:21 PM
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Sorry what? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:15 PM
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Another statement that you got out of your little cucul?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:13 AM
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I think it comes from this boomer humor culture of seeing your wife as this prison guard party pooper thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:44 AM
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Sadly, I'm a scientist in a french speaking country. So I literally switch 50 times a day usually. Science don't happen in any other language than English.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:10 PM
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The feminist equivalent of "Then I will eat double the meat Hur Dur!" Of stupid guies. Hahaha strangely, I love it. 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:36 PM
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When you listen to guies here, going through thousands of inept OD profile, sending thousands of "Hey, how are you?", then facing the cost of no answer, being used for days for free validation before ghosting, going to shitty dates where you pay for everything only to be ghosted right after, etc. Doesn't really sound like low effort to me, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:32 PM
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There is huge limitations to that. A stupid cliche hot goofy quarterback is not gonna be able to surf the wave of his abs more than a few years past high school if he doesn't actually acquire some deeper and more interesting personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:30 PM
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Nope, I believe it makes it harder. I struggle to learn vocabulary in the classical way as it is often based on loose equivalents, which disturbs me. But I'm good at catching meaning from contextual clues. Now that I'm almost bilingual, I actually struggle constantly to find my words in BOTH french and english. The best semantic choice comes to me immediately, but often in the wrong language, and it's frustrating to accept the less ideal equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:26 PM
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Then niether strategy will work. You're either adaptable, either good enough at what you want. There is no third solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:34 PM
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I'm dying 🤣... Like women all over the world would like to massively emigrate to the US. Also, "feminine" cultures, and you speak a out the whole balkan... jesus, I think you mistake being slim with nice hairs, nice nails and nice make up with feminity. Going to the Albanian cafe to get borek for the first time was a near traumatizing experience as the ladies behind the counter are 30 times scarier than the grave looking groups of huge men snacking on Ayran and MalboroLights. These women are use…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:24 PM
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Hey OP, I see you repeating that a working woman can be a tradwife. Care to share what is a tradwife in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:13 PM
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This...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:12 PM
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You are missing a large part of the question here. Aka. What does it MEAN to have human status. Ultimately, this boils down to is a fetus deserving of human rights? Is a fetus a human life equivalent to a human existing outside the womb? Children are not autonomous and are subjugated to the will of their parents in how they're raised, fed and even in the medical services they have access to. Yet, we say they have human right, which they actually don't have, not in full. I think a solution to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:05 PM
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For the love of god. The point was never that social skills and social circle was a guarantee to access romantic and sexual relationships. The point was that WITHOUT IT, I will be a lot lot harder, near impossible depending on the rest of the variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:57 PM
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IQ is vast and can express itself in a shitload of different ways. I scored best in language comprehension. Basically it just makes me strangely specific all the time, super aware, naturally of every little nuance attached to the different synonyms and semantic choices. Aka, the area where my IQ is exceptional just makes me weird as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:54 PM
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Not exactly... particularly not in monogamous species. Anyway, my point was more that, in a species with so much individual variations, for someone who's not at the top of the top of the social common hierarchy, it may be a far better strategy to understand and identify the demographic they want and can attain, and direct their efforts to understanding what works for them. Aka, becoming a specialist and focusing on some people specifically is probably a better and more efficient strategy than pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:11 PM
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Were speaking about relationship here. Not 3 shitty dates in a jacket.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:17 PM
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he only takes you out for cheap coffee where you split 50/50. My boyfriend doesn't "take me" somewhere. We go together and talked about it beforehand besides some very specific "surprise" cases. So I can't even think about one situation or the other. Better yet, he's had a history of giving tons of money to female webstreamers, giving all his emotional validation etc whereby essentially rewarding them (despite them not giving a shit about him as a person or treating him as a disposable object). …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:15 PM
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I mean, they have to choose you back, that's for sure. But you still choose who you ask out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:04 PM
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Err.. there is evolutionary advantages and costs to both generalists and specialists foraging strategies. Same for casting a wide net vs carefully choosing your goal and crafting the optimal strategy for it specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:26 AM
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You underestimate your point 4. There is moment in your development where your brain is setting up big highways for the future. Moments where it's specifically plastic in some area. During preteen, teen and very young adult period (say 19), your brain si basically strengthening connections that you use a lot and pruning away all the now "useless" connections you made as a crazy kid. Teenagers are usually extremely inclined to socialize with other teens, and as it's also the moment your emotionna…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:00 AM
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Two equally paying jobs at 50% are harder to find, get, and maintain than one at 20 and the other at 80. Progressing in your career is easier when you work full time than part time. A good reason for women not to decide to take the 80% is because they're not sure they can trust their husband with the household and a good reason for that is simply because men didn't HAVE to stay home with the kids for months so they indeed are not that good at it (everything is learned by experience). The best so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:49 PM
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Yes but it makes sense if you think that one of the reasons women statistically earn less than their Male partners is precisely because they can't invest as much time and effort in their carrier BECAUSE they have to carry more of the household responsibility. It's like a snake biting their own tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:44 PM
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What you say is true but the problem is in the fact you'd base this on the earning. See, I remember when I was living with my son and a friends couple who also had kids, the man was a website manager for a stupid firm. He was basically working 3 hours per day from home. I was a teacher and my other friend was a nurse. The guy made almost the same amount of money that both of us United while working a third of the time we did. In no universe would that be a justification for him to do less housew…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:40 PM
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I don't like it neither when it is used for men. For me, providing carries some concept of covering basic needs. Like you are providing means you are the one responsible and the one offering the other their means of existence. And that is not good in my opinion as it deprives the provider and the provided their most inherent individuality. We provide for our young kids, and the level of constraints it has for both parent and offspring is obvious. I don't think any true equal partnership is possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:49 PM
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Providing is maybe the wrong word. But for sure, it feels very good to feel useful to your loved one. Not only mentally or sentimentally but in a trivial way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:29 PM
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Well, if I meant most i would have said most. Sorry to use your own language better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:01 PM
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In what universe a lot of women is most? A lot is an absolute quantity. Most is a relative quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:44 PM
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and you’re extrapolating it to most women for no reason. Where did I do that exactly? Your entire comment is you getting mad about things I never said. Like at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:15 PM
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Precisely, the argument is about the fact that it would be ridiculous to advocate for avoiding men altogether as it would substantially hinder life for everyone. It's a typical case where safety actions being worst than what they're supposed to prevent. It will successfully prevent 95% percent of the rapes toward female victims but would be immensely impactful on the life of the vast majority of people. In the same way, advising to avoid partying, going to bars or drinking altogether to diminish…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:26 PM
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The confidence of this person to just blabla things on subject they know NOTHING about is insane. Thank you for the "parrots are herbivores". Really proved he didn't even open Wikipedia before arguing ^<sup>.</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:37 AM
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your same best friend will refuse to acknowledge the same facts in human breeding. Yes... because things linked to culture, cognition, communication, sociality and emotions are way more complex in humans. The more socially complex a specie is, the more individual variation you see. This is probably caused by multilevel selection and complex selection mechanisms. Could we theoretically decompose every human phenotypical characteristic into genetics and environmental effect (so interractions of ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:34 AM
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If you think genetics is a real thing, then submissive women will also breed submissive women. Therego we have a genetic feedback loop where each generation of women gets more submissive in theory. And finally submissive women inherit the Earth through demographic domination. Yeah... and if you actually know anything about genetics, you understand that this is not only a far fetched guess that is the level of a 5years old but also (if magically true) something that you'll see the result of in ~ …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:23 AM
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So this minority of men are just raping and SAing most women they are close to right? Because if around 10-20% of women are raped at least once, and only a TINY TINY minority of men do that AND 80% of the time they do that, it's to someone from their friends, family, romantic relationships or exes. They have to be quite proficient in SAing most women they come close to...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:15 AM
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Yeah... same. But I believe it would help a lot of people here to realise that and maybe search for their tribe too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:00 AM
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t’s probably just that my social circles are very progressive and artistic leaning. THIS. Most of the time in here, I'm at total awe about the things said by people and how it absolutely do NOT match anything I see in my life. Then I remember they're probably mostly extreme normies or absolute weirdos desperately trying to be normies or get normie date. Average X, Y will not apply to you if you're not represented by the "random average majority"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:50 AM
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Again, average is average, median is median, percentages are percentages. Do a lot of women want protectors? Yes. Do most women want protectors? Maybe. Is there ENOUGH women not wanting protectors so that it is still very possible to encounter some? Certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:46 AM
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I have a big thing for skinny men. Most my ex were lighter than me and my BMI stands right in the middle of the normal range. But this is just personally me. I also feel like it's the case for a LOT of women. Between BIG guies who aren't athletic or skinny bony guies, a lot of women will prefer the latter. Being very thin often highlight or enhance bone structure. Also, due to the lowe average fat level in men, the majority of these skinny men aren't looking sick or scrawny. It looks "natural" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:44 AM
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Stop having a conversation if you're too lazy to answer. No one forces you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:00 PM
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Thanks for this super informative and good faithed answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:26 PM
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Yeah... on tiktok maybe. And even.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:21 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:34 PM
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The fact women may not prefer it doesn't mean you're not good. I prefer pizza than burgers. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna be happy eating a burger.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:34 PM
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I. Never. Said. Vaginas. Are. The. Same. Size. Ever!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:32 PM
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Maybe the blue pillers aren't after the same women you do. So they actually don't observe nor suffer from your problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:33 PM
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I'm not insulting. I'm asking because it's been two times in a row you do exactly this. You take one word and slip to the next one over the semantic range as they could be used interchangeably. But I know you do it on purpose. I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt that maybe it wasn't your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:30 PM
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Never said they were equal size. You said some women vagina couldnt FIT big penis. Like physically. This is factually wrong. The largest size of penises one may typically encounter is nothing compared to the head of a full term foetus. Tearing will happen because the penis is jammed in without lubrication and the woman is unrelated and not horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:29 PM
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Reread my comment please.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:10 PM
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Elasticity is literally the property of an object to return to it's initial state or size once the forces applied are removed. Take a stretch piece of clothing. A size 4XL with elasticity may be loose to you. A size 3XS with high elasticity may fit. A 3XS with low elasticity would not be loose at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:08 PM

Being plenty satisfied is not the same as tolerating either. You have a neural problem where your brain slips to the next word on the semantic range by mistake?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:04 PM
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Evey woman is physically able to handle any dick as our vaginas are able to handle a baby's head. It's just a matter of time, stretch and being relaxed and horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:58 PM
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What???
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:54 PM
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On one side : saying preference if they may choose from infinite penis sizes. On the other side (the comment you're responding to) : being totally satisfied with normal penis sizes. You : see!!! These two are not the same. Well thank you I guess for this great moment of truth....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:51 PM
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🤣 This was SO sure! On what subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:45 PM
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