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Do you agree that the article is a fascinating jumping-off point, regardless of its heated rhetoric and paranoid flavor?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:44 AM
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Random question; you're an "Amazon." How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:42 AM
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I summoned the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:41 AM
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I summoned the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:41 AM
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Why are women into risk-takers? Think evo-psych: a risk to him is a risk to her and her offspring...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:39 AM
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Lying/Faking is just not sustainable in anything but the shortest term. Can you give some examples of when it is sustainable? The moment they found out you've lied about anything you're screwed...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:37 AM
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This is my point about the gendered statement. Women want to know a man's "actual" personality so as to assess compatibility. Men also want to know a woman's "actual" personality so as to assess compatibility. We agree on the first statement. Do we agree on the second statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:34 AM
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Sorry about that. I want to understand. You sound smart af. It's just so cryptic and sphinx-like to me. "Be yourself so that I can see if you fit or not" - Women Does this translate to, "Don't work on your body/mind so that I can assess the genetics of your body/mind without the distorting effects of discipline?" But isn't discipline itself also an important genetic factor that they want to select for? Sounds a bit authoritative right here :p Sorry about that; I didn't mean to take a commanding/…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:31 AM
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Her attitude is arrogant as fuck and its just a girl trying to be a badass dude. Its unattractive and annoying. Maybe we can ignore the messengers and just deal with the arguments. After all, it's the internet, so you don't even know that Atlas is a woman or is a lawyer or anything. I think there are guys that work for me and theyre winners. And the guys that don't work for me are losers. Atlas claims that men who do not fall within her definition of "winner" are losers? And a guys got to be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:13 AM
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Decide exactly what it is your version of "ultimate" is then work out the concrete steps to get there. Start small, work up. Any tips? Can you actually reach a level of transformation (sounds crazy, I know) where you no longer recognize your past self because you have altered every aspect of yourself through increasing momentum? Maybe u/Atlas_B_Shruggin can chime in!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 07:54 AM
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What does this even mean? Gah. I want to understand. Is it simply that a woman wants to know a man's true personality to see whether they're compatible? Why genderize that statement, then? Don't men also want to know a woman's true personality to see whether they're compatible? Maybe u/Eastuss can help us out...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 07:52 AM
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You seem smart and very passionate, but I have to be honest, I'm having extreme trouble decoding what your actual comment/message/argument is here. My understanding so far is that you disagree with Atlas. On what exactly? And why exactly? Her message seems to be one of anti-complacency and being a winner; it seems hard to argue with. I wish I could understand your comments better. How is this a "chick's attitude?" Aren't women actually the opposite (i.e., more complacent) because they don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 07:49 AM
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"Be yourself so that I can see if you fit or not" - Women This is confusing for me. Physically, women want men to hit the gym and sculpt their best bodies possible, don't they? Regarding personality/character/game, don't women want men to sculpt themselves into the best men they can be? I don't get it. Why would they want men to not sculpt themselves physically/mentally into their best versions? Don't they want better men? You'll have to explain this to me in some detail. Men certainly want wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 07:37 AM
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Channing Tatum said "My name is Jeff" in a pussy ass voice and girls across the nation nearly drowned in their wet panties. When? What are you referring to? Is this in a movie?
/r/askTRP03/02/18 10:06 PM
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don#t shit were you eat. end of story He didn't.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 09:57 PM
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There is no optimal combination of perfect words to get your oneitis to come over. I'm simply curious about which "verbals" optimize your odds with a woman, and why. It's a simple question about game. But I agree that verbals are a marginal consideration as compared with (A) nonverbals and (B) kino and (C) bigger-picture stuff about frame/teasing/flirting. And game itself is marginal compared to SMV, of course.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 09:30 PM
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It's real. It's my brother's story. But I don't know how I'm supposed to prove that to you over Reddit...
/r/askTRP03/02/18 09:25 PM
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Not a troll. The only falsehood in this OP is that it's not exactly my "friend"; it's my younger brother. It's true that he's my "friend," I guess, in a technical sense. I didn't say he was my brother because I thought it was kind of irrelevant to the story. I would hope that you're a rational/bright person and you know that people mess up pronouns all the time, particularly when they're trying to inhabit someone's situation and therefore thinking from the person-under-discussion's perspective. …
/r/askTRP03/02/18 08:23 PM
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If she seems unenthusiastic to come over to your place, but also hangs out with you periodically, then how do you know whether you're wasting your time with her?
/r/askTRP03/02/18 08:17 PM
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you retain the element of being mysterious, instead of sabotaging yourself through irrelevant text convos... I totally agree that you should reserve texting strictly for logistics because you don't want to subcommunicate that you're (1) a loser with no life or (2) needy/thirsty. I guess it keeps you "mysterious" too, but can you flesh out what exactly that means and why exactly it's important? Does it create excitement? If it does, why exactly does it create excitement? What other things does it…
/r/askTRP03/02/18 08:15 PM
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No combination of words will get her wetter or not if she's already into sex with you. I totally agree. It's a marginal consideration. But I still wonder what optimal "verbals" are. A girl who wants to fuck you WILL find a way to do it if you don't royally fuck it up. I don't agree with this. In our culture, women are averse to making a move. The man must make the move. If she wants you, she will be on Easy Mode, but you still need to make the move.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 08:01 PM
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Well, it would give them plausibility deniability (they could deny to themselves that they're being a slut, since they're "just going to check out your LEGO," and therefore not a slut but rather innocent). It's also humorous, which is great. However, it's also weird/creepy for an adult to say he has LEGO. Also, when they see there's no LEGO, that might be weird, but it would actually be weirder if you did have LEGO as a grown-ass man, so...
/r/askTRP03/02/18 08:00 PM
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I totally get where you're coming from. But I don't see the inherent value in mixing it up every night; what advantage does it confer if you use a different line every night? It's not like you somehow get points for variety; the women don't know if you're using you're "go-to" line vs. something fresh.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 07:18 PM
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yeah, cuz having a line prewritten is very spontaneous. She doesn't know that it's prewritten of course. The phrase is casual/"whatever"/cool.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 07:03 PM
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What kind of lines do you recommend apart from this one?
/r/askTRP03/02/18 07:03 PM
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We want to know what the best phrase is to optimize your odds. Is this the best phrase to optimize your odds? If you "did everything right already and she's horny and ready to go back home with you" and "you could literally point/nod to the door and start walking and she'd follow you" then anything would work of course, including this phrase of course, but that's a highly specific scenario that doesn't always occur.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 07:02 PM
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1: Why don't you care about frame-control? I thought it was important af. 2: What can be done about that? 3: Why is that not a waste of time?
/r/askTRP03/02/18 06:16 PM
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Jesus dude. This is such a covert toot your own horn kinda post that it honestly would make me cringe even if I didnt know you/ wasnt the one being "sneakily" woven into this in such a weird quasi impersonal over the internet kind of way. Especially since you posted the SAME thread on MY account and then I go to PPD and see this and ugggghhhhh. Since the only time you actually engage in a real way seems to be this sub im just going to lay it out. Congrats on not catching feels like I did. Honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:11 PM
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"It feels almost like being spit on." I feel you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:32 AM
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Are you chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 05:52 AM
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Are you talking about flow state?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:51 AM
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Im attracted to them for purely aesthetic reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:28 AM
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one can have a separate "social brain" which can be either more masculine or feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:27 AM
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Can you share in more detail your insights about coolness? I read the Wikipedia page you linked to and it was interesting, but you seem to have more knowledge about this that goes beyond the Wikipedia page.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:58 AM
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Usually theres a reason it gets to that point, in my experience. Sometimes its a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:23 AM
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Is the key just to go out there and get rejected 100 times until you DGAF?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:10 AM
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"Being rejected initially doesn't faze me at all." Why not? Did it used to, and then after a certain number of rejections it stopped making you cringe at yourself and feel self-hatred/mortification/depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:10 AM
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What methods do you recommend in order to become an ice-cold unfazed slayer?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:09 AM
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"Evolution is not something that wants, it doesn't drive you anywhere in particular" But the ice-cold slayers slay pussy and dominate the gene-pool, right? "The difference between what people say you should be and what is actually out there in the world as far as men go should tell you something" What should it tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:09 AM
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What is "sub8?" Sub 8 sounds like you mean "8 or lower on a scale of 1 to 10." So that's not actually that bad...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:05 AM
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What did Lowry and Pat Pat and Johnson and Powell have that gave them game? Can you describe their game? And in what way were the other guys awkward? They're on top of the world...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:04 AM
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Wait, why would WNBA players not want to fuck NBA players? Wouldn't they want to fuck them even MORE?...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:01 AM
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Wait, shouldn't evolution make us as fearless in terms of approaching and totally unfazed in terms of rejection? Evolution wants you to be an ice-cold badass hyper-confident slayer, right?...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:58 PM
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Hah! How did you know that it was him? Did you recognize him yourself? Or was everyone whispering "There's Dirk!" Did you not think that he was sexy? Which athletes/celebs DO you find sexy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:32 PM
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Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:27 PM
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lol. Well this thread seems pretty varied in a lot of ways..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:26 PM
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Right. How much time do you spend thinking about your looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:25 PM
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Right. Isnt that why Koan's are so effective? Because they eventually lead one to realize that there really no point in forced action/un-natural action?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:24 PM
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Have you ever met a girl who was more dominant than yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:22 PM
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I have a friend who is somewhat like the girl you describe and she said she "wouldn't be adverse to it". Then I tuned her out because I was working on my frame. Dont some NBA players read philosophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:21 PM
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Foe me, they just exude this alpha-god presence. Like what chick/woman/girl/human would not jump at the chance to get in their zone?!?!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:19 PM
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What is your epitome of "cool"/swag? For me it really changes day by day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:17 PM
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Which drugs would you personally recommend? LSD, MDMA, Shrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:14 PM
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What is really "fucking transparent?" What is a League Pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:13 PM
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"Nerdishness appears to me to be one of the main manifestations of masculinity" Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:13 PM
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So you think they're not actually cool but it's just an illusion due to the halo effect or whatever? But tons of girls will fuck these men so it's not just NBA fans... I'm not even a big NBA fan..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:12 PM
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I will take that compliment and run with it. You are also v lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:10 PM
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But how did that even occur? That's amazing...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:10 PM
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Isn't HBD racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:10 PM
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Why is it irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:08 PM
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Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:07 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:03 PM
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What do men crave? 19 year old catholic virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:57 PM
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DO you think there's a somewhat mysterious or nebulous component to cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:56 PM
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How do you think girl "cool" differs from guy "cool"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:56 PM
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"Art is what you can get away with." -A.Warhol haha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:55 PM
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That would require experience though, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:54 PM
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I like this. Though the obliviousness component to your description seems to kind of resemble naivety in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:53 PM
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Heeeh. So... If i can learn zen it would enable me to also learn "cool"? Basically just cultivate a "just-do" mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:52 PM
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That sounds lovely/ kind of like you're describing a saint though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:49 PM
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How did you meet NBA players? Are they really "lame af" that sounds a bit like an exaggeration..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:48 PM
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Ive met people who are pretty covertly cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:48 PM
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Wow How did you meet him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:48 PM
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To you? Or is that a stab at a more objective description of cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:47 PM
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That sounds hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:46 PM
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Does aged cool differ so widely from high-school cool? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:46 PM
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Ive seen people embarrass themselves and still make it seem "cool". A component of "coolness" for me would be acknowledging that things can and do happen (embarrassing shit) and just taking it in stride.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:45 PM
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Right. I would posit that the inward game comes before the outward game eh. Also d'you agree that people can be awkward/nervous and own it and still be considered cool? Do cool people consider themselves cool(some/all)? I think thats another good question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:42 PM
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I have a good friend who has schizophrenia. He's medicated, and very functional. Doesn't seem like he has any issues with girls either, from what I can glean. Though I'm not sure how much of his history he usually discloses casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:36 PM
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Just repeating because I lumped too many different questions together before...needed to break them down rather than make a big crazy thread with too many varied questions..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:24 PM
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I wonder if /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin could tell us his opinion on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:10 PM
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Right on. What was the nature of her mental health issue(s)? Do you think if someone has moderate-severe issues in the mental health area they can own it and still be perceived as attractive? I wouldn't rule out someone who I was otherwise attracted to/interested in even if they had a serious mental health issue, but then again I may be very biased. As well, do you think there are standard components to a "stellar" personality, or is there just way too much variation for someone to pin down?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:24 AM
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I agree. I've always wondered whether not experiencing any significant personal/social issues would actually make someone somewhat bored with life in general. Or just make them uninteresting and somewhat bland perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:10 AM
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Ah, gotcha. I agree that unending questions can be a deterrent to finding real solutions sometimes. I like to ask questions because differing viewpoints can help me get a sense of what I think until ultimately that changes too. I mean, everyone is basically just building on themselves with the information they have available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:50 AM
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Im not sure what you mean by that, but I recognize your username from OCPoetry. I really dig your work!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:27 AM
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What kind of self journey?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:23 AM
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Im somewhat familiar. I was wondering about this on a less drastic scale though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:22 AM
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Hmmmmm I agree. Though, why do you think everyone cares so much about appearing like they don't really care what people think about them? Do you think that coolness has anything to do with being one's authentic self?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:19 AM
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Would you say that looks effectively get you in the door, but that the rest boils down to basically just personality? Do you think that someone can have a charismatic/cool persona/ outer shell but a deeply insecure/uncool inner self?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:14 AM
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How does one reprogram oneself with the aid of drugs? Wouldn't some drugs accomplish this eg. hallucinogens better than others? Though-- what is the actual mechanism that enables one to effectively change themselves while under the influence? https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2017/10/05/different-types-of-meditation-change-the-brain-in-different-ways-study-finds/ also could mindfulness meditation and other types of meditation be a slower, but ultimately safer way to change one's perspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:08 AM
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How does coolness act as an aphrodisiac? Are there other ways to "open the doors of perception" that aren't drug related? Eg. Rigorous meditative practise, yoga?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:01 AM
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This one would be great: What do you think about the notion that there are various developmental windows in a human's life that are crucial in determining the nature of the person that one turns out to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:59 AM
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I stopped because it was ultimately raised health concerns for me. Though I don't think casual drug use is a negative really, just that it can be easy to overdo it. Are millennial wearing polo cubicle jockey's cool? Do you think there is ever a way to in effect "get-over" one's individual narrative and attain a milestone of cool-ness? Should I just own my tween-moviestory? I drive the speed limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:58 AM
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Would you say that charisma, like coolness can affect how attractive one is perceived by the opposite sex? Which one would you say is more desirable? Can one have one without much of the other, or do they usually go hand in hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:54 AM
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Huh, what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:26 PM
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Cant read your response because my eyes wont cooperate on this one.
/r/askTRP07/11/17 11:06 PM
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God forbid a women with male friends....
/r/askTRP06/11/17 06:31 PM
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