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I promise you, from a guy’s perspective, having an articulable reason for rejection is way less cruel than a nebulous, ineffable “no”, which often feels more like a rejection of their whole selves, not just some aspect of their personality or behavior or lifestyle or appearance. If it’s changeable, they can change it if they want. If not, it’s much easier to accept that it wasn’t meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:33 AM
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They want to go back to the 1950s, except without the part where we taxed the top earnings of the wealthiest people at 90%.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 02:58 PM
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See my other comment responding to Feroste. But to summarize, according to this study, men and women both have an implicit in-group bias. It is very slight among men (3%), and very strong among women (90%). Meanwhile, there is also an explicit out-group bias among men and women, although the out-group bias is stronger among men than women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 08:44 AM
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I'd have to look at those individual studies to respond to them, but I agree that it is clear that in-group bias between the sexes is asymmetrical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 07:40 AM
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I'd read it again. Yes it states that men seem to lack a mechanism which bolsters automatic own-group preference. As in, there is one, but it isn't reinforced. What the paper actually says is that the level of in-group preference among men has a lower baseline than women, and is moderated by life events or circumstances which affect emotional conditioning such as sexual experience, unconscious homophobia, and level of maternal care in upbringing. If you see Table 4 (top), men display a tiny pro-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 02:25 AM
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As that paper states, it's not that men don't have an in-group bias, it's just that women have a much stronger one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 08:41 PM
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Always happy to clarify and/or cite, if you’re willing to provide specific problems and read beyond a paragraph!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:13 AM
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Ok, from your silence and reading your other comments, it is clear that you have no interest in reading past a sentence or two to any reply, and reject any dissenting opinion, no matter how slight, regardless of the context or depth of the conversation, and reply with only your own pre-formed opinion rather than responding substantively to any direct quotation or evidence brought to bear. Your confidence in your own righteousness seems to be clouding any sense of nuance or depth in your argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:38 AM
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the person responsible for creating a lot of ideas we have about gender and mind-body dualism Yes, absolutely Plato's mind-body dualism was central to his philosophy, but it's also an important way in which he differed with Aristotle. Whereas Plato saw the human immaterial Form as non-gendered (he believed that women were the reincarnations of weak/cowardly men, who were yet capable of being reincarnated again as men through a life of strength/virtue), Aristotle rejected this concept of Forms in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:32 AM
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I took a Philosophy minor at a Catholic college. Except for perhaps my frustration in my previous comment, I promise that I'm engaging fully in good faith and without insult. I think we fully agree on the existence and poison of misogyny, I only took issue with the ideas that a) there was any less misogyny before Plato, and b) that he was the worst offender of his era when it comes to influencing further patriarchal systems of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:03 AM
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In that case I find it hard to believe that you do know what you're talking about if you can't entertain reading even the slightest deviation from your position. Had we been able to actually engage on the topic, we might've been able to teach each other something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:54 PM
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I know what I'm talking about and I have no idea whether you do or not Well, y'know, actually reading it would've fixed that problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:45 PM
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Ok, replying that quickly means you clearly didn't even read what I wrote. if you had, you'd see that I'm not denying that Plato influenced plenty of misogyny himself I'm saying that it's a little weird to lay it specifically at Plato's feet when Aristotle is right there, far harsher and more influential, and that they were both influenced themselves by thousands and thousands of years of patriarchal societal organization.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:39 PM
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We can agree to disagree. It's really not too debatable. I'm not blaming him for patriarchy It certainly sounds like you are when you say since Plato, we have associated women with emotions and denied the important information feelings and emotions are trying to communicate to us... When I destigmatize all of that, as it likely was before Plato How else could one interpret that except as seeing Plato as some dividing line between egalitarian and patriarchal thinking? It was probably much, much e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:27 PM
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Yes, Plato and Aristotle agreed on many things, and disagreed on several others, but Aristotle was the more influential force on Western philosophy for a long, long time. But in any case that's all irrelevant to my original point, which was pushing back on the statement: When I destigmatize all of that, as it likely was before Plato... I'm saying that the roots of patriarchal societal systems long predate Plato. But if there is an ancient Greek philosopher who had the greatest impact on the apol…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:17 PM
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Yes, Plato was Aristotle's teacher, but their arguments diverged in a number of ways. Aristotle's writings were much more accepted by the Catholic Church, which basically dictated Western philosophy until the Enlightenment. The Church wasn't too fond of Plato's positions on educating women, for example, or his views on Republicanism vs. Monarchy, which Aristotle took a much more favorable view of. On this point especially, the Church preferred Aristotle, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:58 PM
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I'm not sure why you're singling out Plato. While his views were far from progressive, he did advocate for the education of women, unlike Aristotle, who was unquestionably a more influential force on European philosophy over the next 2000 years (i.e. Catholic Church doctrine). And neither of them were operating from scratch, either. The roots of patriarchal societal systems go back at least to the development of agriculture, and perhaps further, as we see similar societal structures in our close…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:45 PM
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Never was enforced. Ok, you're living on another planet or are just completely blind to almost all of human history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 07:02 PM
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For instance, traditional marriage vows for women include "love, honor, and obey. The wildly popular Fifty Shades of Grey is a female submission fantasy which propagated deeply wrongheaded and harmful stereotypes about roleplay and BDSM in general. And it reinforced equally wrongheaded tropes surrounding female submissiveness and masculine control/success as well. Not being submissive is often seen as 'taking the man's role'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 08:00 PM
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To be fair, I think femininity is pretty conditional and strictly enforced as well. It's boundaries focus more on appearance rather than behavior, whereas masculinity is more enforced by behavior (although appearance and behavior also apply to both). Women are constantly told they need to conform to standard feminine (i.e. traditionally attractive/submissive) molds. I think where the difference lies is that in recent years, women who deliberately undermine the traditional feminine narrative are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 07:06 PM
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In-group bias between the sexes is asymmetric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/21 02:31 PM
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No one should have to engage in sex acts they don’t desire, but with 7bn+ unique people on the planet, I don’t think we should worry about not being able to find a reasonably compatible partner. There are plenty of kinksters who can find each other, and plenty of normies who can do the same. The slippery slope argument doesn’t hold water. The slope ends at consent. The same argument was used against legalizing gay marriage, that it would be a slippery slope to societal deviancy and destruction. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:57 PM
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Is expanding sexual horizons a bad thing? Obviously one needs to communicate and find a consenting partner, but I think that the mainstreaming of more niche fetishes has helped women lead more fulfilling sexual lives as well as men. The broader acceptance of sexual deviancy means that people who have non-normie desires don't have to live in shame for things about themselves that they can't really change, and that they can more easily find a consenting partner who is enthusiastic about fulfilling…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 04:36 PM
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You hear "male nurse" all the time. I think it's pretty natural to happen in certain occupations where one gender is more prevalent. It's not necessarily a good thing, just an unforced linguistic quirk.
/r/MensRights24/11/20 05:43 PM
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It's not just "bias". It's institutional sexism. The widespread conscious or subconscious belief among police that assumes that black and brown people are naturally more likely to be engaged in criminal activity is institutional bias. An official policy like the Duluth model, which incorrectly presumes that the male is the aggressor in all DV situations. In fact, the numbers are far more equivalent: "Overall, 22% of individuals assaulted by a partner at least once in their lifetime (23% for fema…
/r/MensRights03/11/20 06:06 AM
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I don't think they argue that natural traits are "good", mostly I see them arguing that recognizing some natural tendencies is effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 10:05 PM
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1: People who falsely accuse someone of rape should get the same punishment the falsely accused would have gotten. 2: We can’t do that, it would make actual rape victims afraid to come forward! 1: What would actual rape victims be afraid of? 2: Being falsely accused of…oh.
/r/MensRights07/06/20 12:07 AM
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What you say is true, but this is precisely one of the inequalities that intersectional feminist discourse purports to correct for, but seems to neglect to do so when it comes to men.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 06:31 AM
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Incorrect. We have proven inborn biases against snakes and spiders. It's not so great a stretch to hypothesize that there may be some innate sex/gender biases we are born with.
/r/MensRights04/01/20 01:08 AM
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Researchgate Link
/r/MensRights04/01/20 12:52 AM
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Harmful ideas are the opposition, not people, and certainly not any specific group of people identified by some cluster of genetic traits.
/r/MensRights24/12/19 05:15 AM
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I see them pretty often where I live in the Deep South.
/r/MensRights05/11/19 08:21 PM
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Possibly. Probably not if you control for social economic status.
/r/MensRights26/10/19 02:31 PM
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Not sure where you're getting your data, but "1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men experience severe intimate partner physical violence, intimate partner contact sexual violence, and/or intimate partner stalking with impacts such as injury, fearfulness, post-traumatic stress disorder, use of victim services, contraction of sexually transmitted diseases, etc." and poverty and IPV are absolutely linked.
/r/MensRights26/10/19 05:35 AM
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Ok, good. There are clearly unjust sentencing trends between men and women. But that doesn't mean that even absent this bias we wouldn't see a major imbalance in the commission of violent crime by gender, as this comic reductively suggests. Nor does this bias come from the same source as race-based biases.
/r/MensRights26/10/19 05:26 AM
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DV statistics uncontrolled for poverty, you mean...
/r/MensRights25/10/19 10:05 PM
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It shouldn’t. Similar results may stem from different causes.
/r/MensRights25/10/19 10:03 PM
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It's not fake though.
/r/MensRights14/10/19 01:56 AM
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Specifically her followers.
/r/MensRights22/09/19 02:10 PM
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Poll from incredibly biased population yields incredibly biased results, wow!
/r/MensRights22/09/19 05:27 AM
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I would argue that being distracted momentarily while driving, to turn up or down the volume on the radio, for instance, is so commonplace, and in the overwhelming number of cases, consequence-free, as to be an action made practically automatically, without active preparation, intention, or conscious thought. But more importantly, I would argue that no one ever looked down at the radio or their phone with the intent to harm someone by hitting them with their car. It is a case of negligence, not …
/r/MensRights20/09/19 12:52 AM
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An accident caused by not paying attention is the definition of unintentional.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 11:17 PM
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Legally and psychologically, intentionality is material. We naturally react more strongly to tragedies which involve malice and preparation than we do to those which occur absent any motivating desire. Blame Theory is a pretty interesting subfield.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 10:32 PM
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Why not do both? Imagination is not a finite resource.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:33 PM
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http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/9/e016942 Conclusion: While both men and women get tired of sex with time, women lose interest in having sex with their partner after an average of just 12 months of being a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 01:13 AM
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I believe the deleted comment I was responding to made some sort of legal claim. As a general principle, I believe that social media should be as open a marketplace as possible, but the distinction the US makes between repression of free speech by government and private entities is an important one.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 02:16 AM
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Yes, but the difference is that the government has exclusive right to application of force. The US constitution protects citizens from the government’s use of force to coerce speech.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:24 PM
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I understand the point you’re making. Twitter being a US company, this case is under US jurisdiction. Therefore US law applies, not just the general principle.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:18 PM
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That’s freedom of the press, not free speech, a separate enumerated first amendment right The burglary would be prosecutable, but a private entity impinging the paper’s freedom of the press is not. The constitution restricts only the government, not private entities.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 11:08 AM
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The risk is only ultra-low because of herd immunity.
/r/MensRights05/10/17 04:29 PM
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That's exactly what we did in 1776.
/r/MensRights24/08/17 02:19 AM
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Some people will say, "I can't do it, I don't know how.." and then behave as if that's the end of the conversation. Whereas others will reply, "I don't know how to do it. Can you explain to me how to do it or tell me where I can find out how to do it?" When I was a kid, I'd ask my parents every time I didn't know something. The response was always, "look it up". We had a pretty sizable reference bookshelf, so it was easy to do without leaving the house (in those pre-internet days). The response …
/r/MensRights20/08/17 03:20 PM
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They've made the best fighter a woman Bronn is not a woman.
/r/MensRights16/08/17 02:09 PM
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All of those characters earned their place, it felt so natural I didn't even notice it. And a 3/4 ratio either way is pretty even in a group that small; eunuchs are still men.
/r/MensRights16/08/17 02:05 PM
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As a man, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:50 AM
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I am interested in how this male and female nature plays out on an individual level I don't think that's what RP folks are doing. The theory describes statistical realities, not individual outcomes. Individuals will of course deviate from the overall trends in any number of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:19 AM
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I think the Pareto Principle is a fairly good model here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 04:12 AM
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The great majority of women aged 18-29 dress immodestly. How can you refute this? Go on any social media and you'll see. Go outside, and you'll see. I think your definition of "immodest" is extremely puritanical. What do you expect women to wear? Cardboard boxes? While women's clothing may accentuate the lines of the body (due to sociobiological imperatives), this does not in any way diminish their capability or worth. Go outside, you'll see. Have you even SEEN a conversation between a woman and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 11:08 PM
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Again, check your shoes. What did you mean by this? It's a reference to what I said in my first comment in this thread, "If you smell shit everywhere you go, check your shoes". It's a common phrase. The fact that you see all or nearly all women acting/dressing immorally/indecently is an indication that your disgust isn't produced by other people's indecency, but by a misalignment of your own compass. If it's obvious that a woman is only posting pictures due to her sexuality, that's "too much". A…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 09:28 PM
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One can post themselves in a sultry dinner dress one night and at the neurosurgery lab cutting up brains the next day. Dont be ridiculous. This is a monumentally rare occurrence. Not at all in my experience. Again, check your shoes. Why shouldn't she use that to her advantage? Because she's broadcasting to the world that she puts too much value on her sexuality, to the point where she doesnt have any other worth (according to her). How much is too much, and why do you get to define it? Women's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 07:53 PM
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It's bad because it shows a woman has no other value other than her body It's potentially bad if it's the ONLY thing on their social media. One can post themselves in a sultry dinner dress one night and at the neurosurgery lab cutting up brains the next day. We all try to put ourselves in the best light on social media, by whatever means. In western society, as with most human societies throughout history, female beauty is valued. Beauty is a means of increasing social status and access to resou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:49 PM
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Show me one woman who doesnt post her sexuality on social media. Which is a bad thing because...? Also, my grandma. Show me one woman who doesnt wear skin-tight clothes every day. Do you go outside? Is it ever cold enough where you live so everyone basically looks like a marshmallow with legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:48 PM
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If you smell shit everywhere you go, check your shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:36 PM
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No one is saying that men can't close their legs. Only that due to the anatomical structure of our hips, that an open-leg sitting position is a more natural and comfortable for males. In contrast, the larger angle between the hip joint and the knee joint in women naturally encourages a crossed or closed-kneed sitting position. Men are of course able to close and cross their legs, but it is a less natural position which in general requires more effort. This is not to excuse those obnoxious people…
/r/MensRights27/07/17 02:00 PM
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She just roleplayed princess really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:46 AM
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The laws look at it with respect to the biological sense that we all have the right to our bodies before anything else Except the death penalty is a harsher punishment than life in prison, and kidnapping is a less heinous crime than murder. The right to life is not subordinate to the right to bodily autonomy.
/r/MensRights15/07/17 05:23 PM
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It's a common thing to confuse social norms with moral actions. We all do it, we've all got different blind spots. Orange just hasn't thought it through yet.
/r/MensRights01/07/17 04:05 AM
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Are you pro-appendectomy at birth as well?
/r/MensRights01/07/17 03:53 AM
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We could ignore the nonsense?
/r/MensRights18/06/17 02:17 AM
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Christ this is such a non-issue. The solution in all cases is just saying "excuse me, may I sit?" In society you have to communicate with other people. That's how it works. And secondly, it's not men's genitalia in the way, it's bone structure. The Q angle of the femur makes it significantly more uncomfortable for men to sit with their knees together. Most of the time, it's physiology, not impoliteness. In those cases where it is rudeness, just calmly ask them to move.
/r/MensRights18/06/17 02:16 AM
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That's some necessary context.
/r/MensRights06/05/17 05:34 PM
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Never seen Grays Anatomy. I first saw her in Brick, now she's got a recurring role on Maron.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:35 PM
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Nora Zehetner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:22 PM
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Hm. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:23 PM
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Why are certain things 'benevolent sexism' and other things 'privilege'?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:58 PM
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She served her sentence, but she still kidnapped, raped, tortured, and killed someone. She should not be held up as a model for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:56 AM
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Conflating DV vs combat deaths is apples and oranges. Of course DV deaths are going to be higher because only a small percentage of the population are in the military, and only a small fraction of those see combat. Compare that small percentage to the percentage of all US residents who who are or have been in relationships over the same time period. I think you'll likely find that if you adjust for population, being in Iraq/Afghanistan is more dangerous than being in a relationship in the US. Ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:48 AM
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Can you back that up with data?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:42 AM
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There are clear an obvious differences between a fertilized egg and a tumor. A tumor does not have the natural capacity to be an independent life form, as a zygote will often do. Life does not begin until the egg is fertilized by the sperm. Neither sperm nor egg will become a fetus alone. The masturbation argument is nonsensical. Abortion is commonly used as a birth control technique, whether the parents don't feel ready, or aren't financially stable enough to care for the child, they still have…
/r/MensRights24/03/17 11:24 PM
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A "clump of cells" is a human in an early developmental stage. How should we treat their right to life differently than an infant?
/r/MensRights24/03/17 09:41 PM
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It is far more likely for a man to be assaulted by a stranger on the way home from work. Women are more likely to be involved with their perpetrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 03:23 PM
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It's forcing men to be like aggressive caveman and shaming them for not fulfilling that role that's the problem. The problem is that a lot of those behaviors aren't forced, they're innate, so it appears as if people are shaming men for congenital traits when they use the term. We still are, on a certain level, cave people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 03:03 PM
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By default, no. As policy that would be struck down. But it can be reality, if not policy. It is a rational fear for male DV victims. From the NIH link: "Some men have reported that when they call the police during an incident in which their female partners are violent, the police sometimes fail to respond. Other men reported being ridiculed by the police or being incorrectly arrested as the primary aggressor. Within the judicial system, some men who sustained IPV reported experiencing gender-st…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:43 PM
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"Moneyed privilege" more like. Across the board, men are sentenced more harshly than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:31 PM
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[Here](www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12061547/How-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse-often-end-up-getting-arrested-themselves.html) you go
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:26 PM
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I wonder if she'd be pissed if her rich husband left her for a prettier girl in the future?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/17 06:50 AM
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It certainly fits into the definition of reckless endangerment, but we legally distinguish crimes of a sexual nature in recognition of their amplified atrocity. These would also certainly also fall under the heading of sexual assault, and we call sexual assault including penetration, rape. It is perhaps rape of a lower degree, but I have a hard time eliminating it from the definition of rape.
/r/MensRights23/02/17 02:48 PM
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You're asking for a definition of a moderate feminist?
/r/MensRights23/02/17 02:14 PM
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The most beneficial kind of feminism is about equal rights for women. Great. That's something we can all get on board with. It wholly ignores those spaces where men's rights are lacking, and in some cases (e.g. NOW & fathers' rights) actively erodes them, not in order to achieve equality but supremacy. I don't think feminism can or should take on board the cause of men's rights. Creating too big a tent opens the door to factionalism and vulnerability, muddy goals and half-solutions. Separate but…
/r/MensRights23/02/17 02:11 PM
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At what point does unilaterally changing the nature of the agreed-upon encounter become rape? If a man agrees to have vanilla sex, but then the woman handcuffs and pegs him, is that rape? If not, what should it be? I use this example because it is not merely a matter of degree. Removing a condom mid-coitus is introducing a much greater degree of danger (of STI or unwanted pregnancy) to a sexual encounter than unwanted anal penetration with (presumably) sterile equipment.
/r/MensRights23/02/17 01:58 PM
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I think the only real way forward is for the moderate majorities of both movements to take some control and create sustainable and mutually-supportive platforms. Right now they're both being driven by the loud, inconsiderate nutjobs with personal beefs against the opposite sex. Only when it can be a natural position to be both a feminist and an MRA can we make real progress. It's not a zero-sum game when you look at the goal not as a series of single issues, but as a project to create a more jus…
/r/MensRights23/02/17 01:33 PM
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Almost all of those signs seemed fairly reasonable or were a joke. Let's not be like those miserable humorless feminists who cry "triggered" at the slightest disagreement.
/r/MensRights16/02/17 02:44 PM
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I have no idea what the crime of adultery was based upon The Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 02:50 PM
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That is quite a windmill you've constructed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 02:46 PM
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It's because the guy who invented corn flakes told people it would keep boys from masturbating.
/r/MensRights01/02/17 01:45 AM
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It's why we take proper precautions in those circumstances. Airbags, seatbelts, licences, safety briefings...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 07:46 AM
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But it is an understandable fear. The risk is relatively low, but the downside is potentially very very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 04:37 AM
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Even if you choose not to sleep with the unattractive man, isn't there still some benefit to you in being seen as desirable? Having the option and not taking it, for whatever reason, vs. not having the option period are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 04:24 AM
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The gender intimacy gap
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 04:15 AM
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Look up "Q angle".
/r/MensRights13/01/17 08:18 PM
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I got a comment removed from the subreddit that shall not be named for pointing out that men's equality issues are silenced in feminist spaces. They kind of proved the point.
/r/MensRights22/12/16 10:56 PM
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Kind of hard to claim the mantle of equalism when the name of the movement is exclusionary.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:22 PM
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Men are physically stronger than women, who have, on average, less total muscle mass, both in absolute terms and relative to total body mass. Not sure what point you're driving at here?
/r/MensRights14/12/16 05:36 AM
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There is a legitimate argument to be made here that a gender-exclusive ridesharing service has some advantages in womens' safety while the male-only barbershop is a matter of comfort. It is a double standard, but one with some claim to reasonableness.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 01:43 AM
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Because it isn't. A body is more than a possession, it is, in some sense, a person. Money is never a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:26 AM
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Unlike circumcision, FGM comes in a myriad of forms depending on the local tradition. Circumcision is most similar to FGM Type IIa.
/r/MensRights07/12/16 04:29 PM
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If you explain to the parents there is no medical harm in not cutting the foreskin labia and they still insist, I feel they should be allowed to go through it. See the problem now?
/r/MensRights07/12/16 04:24 PM
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It should be cut for health reasons? Or it should ONLY be cut in cases of medical necessity?
/r/MensRights07/12/16 03:38 PM
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Good for you. Shouldn't everyone get the choice?
/r/MensRights07/12/16 02:56 PM
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Good Samaritan laws protect those who do act, not persecute those who don't.
/r/MensRights17/10/16 04:53 PM
6

Most men work in an office, dude. Only about 5% of jobs in America are manufacturing jobs. Manufacturing jobs are not the only, or even the most dangerous. Trucking, fishing, law enforcement, EMS, military, construction are all heavily male-dominated fields and just as or more dangerous than manufacturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 07:11 AM
3

Right, it goes to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:50 PM
3

Rent is not something that could go either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:48 PM
3

Would you support more stringent monitoring of how child support payments are spent, to ensure that the funds go to supporting the child and not to new shoes for the custodial parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:40 PM
2

Sure, that's one strategy to minimize potential awkwardness in that scenario, which just boils down to basic manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:24 PM
4

You can decline to chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:09 PM
5

Talking to other people is part of normal human socialization. It's not a matter of anyone "owing" anyone their time. If you don't want to talk, don't. But relegating human interaction into some tiny boxes is ridiculous, weirdly regressive (almost Victorian), and will inevitably fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 12:56 PM
2

Oh, but then you aren't respecting their "lived experience".
/r/MensRights29/04/16 07:32 PM
5

But she didn't do anything wrong! (Besides get physical)
/r/MensRights27/04/16 06:58 PM
5

Fun fact: we're STILL using Purple Hearts minted in preparation for the land invasion of Japan, and we're not going to run low any time soon.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 10:17 AM
2

This is exactly how Trump is operating, how he can claim that he's not inciting violence. Is he a dictionary-definition-fascist? Not yet. But are is positions and followers fascist? Yup
/r/MensRights19/03/16 05:40 AM
12

Acute observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:12 PM
2

How is this not aiding & abetting a fraud?
/r/TheRedPill07/03/16 10:17 AM
6

Drywall is heaven after a month spent roofing. Roofing. Never again.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 06:26 AM
2

Just imagine an America where the sons of the powerful were even more sheltered from combat service than they have been! Universal conscription, when executed judiciously, makes war a much more challenging prospect for politicians to consider, as it puts their own interests, and the interests of ALL of their constituents on the line. Flaws in the current volunteer military system in place in the US are a contributing factor to America's facile bellicosity. A universal draft allows a country to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 11:31 AM
2

There's a good reason to make the draft mandatory for all eligible citizens. The same reason why only those who served in the military could vote in some early democracies. Linking voter privileges to military service, or the potential of military service, creates a much less warlike society. Alternatively, if a nation without citizen-soldiers needs to raise an army on short notice, it will need a mercenary soldier-class within itself for defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:15 AM
2

male circumcision and FGM are not the same. To believe that they can be compared without caveat is to completely deny the mutilation that occurs to young women. I did not compare them without caveat, I compared them with the agreement that: "FGM occurs in more varied and severe forms than circumcision". My reasoning is that despite these differences, "they are both examples of the denial of bodily autonomy for non-medical reasons to a child who is without the ability to consent, and should be fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:47 PM
7

There are several types of FGM, the traditions surrounding the practice vary between cultures. Here is the WHO breakdown of different types of FGM. Circumcision as it is practiced in the west is closest to type 2a. FGM occurs in more varied and severe forms than circumcision, but they are both examples of the denial of bodily autonomy for non-medical reasons to a child who is without the ability to consent, and should be forbidden on those grounds regardless of gender. Experts are divided over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 04:55 AM
11

Circumcision is genital mutilation. No one should have the right to supersede the bodily integrity of their children for non-medically necessary procedures. Find me a woman who says "I'm really glad they held me down and cut my clit off." In cultures where it is normalized, FGM is defended and enforced by women. Circumcision is also genital mutilation, performed without the consent of the child. It only seems normal in the US because we are culturally accustomed to it because the guy who invente…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 12:58 AM
1

The kid didn't choose to be born, and needs parental care.
/r/MensRights04/02/16 12:35 AM
3

Adam Ruins Everything.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 03:17 AM
17

Common Law marriage is in the US too, except for Louisiana. Woo Napoleonic Code!
/r/MensRights10/11/15 03:39 PM
6

He fixes the cats? Shouldn't a veterinarian do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:50 PM
1

Cokehead, snowman, cokejaw, keyrat, sniffer, sleigh rider, squirrel, user, bag bitch, toucan
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:44 AM
2

Ultimately, I think this could create a greater female-scarcity, not less. Artificial/recreative procreation creates two different classes of men: those who use sex-bots, and those who have no need of them. It narrows the 80/20 split to 90/10 or less. Just HAVING A HUMAN GIRLFRIEND becomes a status symbol. The only bulwark against this development is if these robots remain comparatively terrible at creating the sexual experience or prohibitively expensive to the general public.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 12:48 AM
2

Because then the state is generally going to have to pay to care for the child rather than putting the burden on a single parent (usually the mother), and the state is like
/r/MensRights28/08/15 02:55 PM
2

Interesting stats, do we have contrasting data for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 07:31 PM
-1

Science!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/15 05:28 PM
9

Taking into account divorce rates, the ratio of divorces initiated by women, and the (US) court bias against men, would you consider at least some of those fears well-grounded?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 12:07 AM
5

lead to romantic (not just sexual) success
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 07:36 PM
1

Isn't this usually the point at which TRP recommends using Dread Game?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:58 AM
3

You should know about /r/suicidewatch
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 10:27 AM
7

Feminist manifesto Shrill, annoying, and pointless. Checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:28 AM
-1

It's fine as long as everyone acknowledges that it's a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:16 AM
7

It's fine as long as we can all acknowledge that it's a fantasy, not reality.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 10:57 AM
7

Whoosh
/r/MensRights01/02/15 08:48 PM
11

We shouldn't be judged by what we want to wear!
/r/MensRights01/02/15 08:33 PM
0

Can we stop complaining about car insurance? Higher rates for males are backed up by statistics & good business practice. I don't enjoy paying more, but my feelings don't really mean shit in this case.
/r/MensRights31/01/15 03:11 AM
2

Again, sorry about that. Some of us let the anger & frustration come out, which helps no one. Have you or have you not done anything outside of Reddit to try to advocate for men's rights? Without actions to back up your words, your words are meanless. Speaking for myself, I'm a fairly passive advocate. I participate in discussions like this one online, and air my candid views when the topic arises in conversation IRL. If a petition comes my way which touches on MRA topics (e.g. fathers' rights, …
/r/MensRights23/01/15 09:44 PM
1

Differently. Men deal more effectively with competition, which makes them more successful overall in fields which require that. In fields which require more egalitarianism and consensus, women are more efficient. That's a bare-bones (and by no means comprehensive) summary of the articles I cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 09:23 PM
-1

Yes, they each can, but each responds differently in groups depending on gender parity, definition of goals, and desired outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:18 PM
3

"The difference between men and women in same-sex interactions may have roots in evolution" "Men perform worst when the benefts are shared with another man in a cooperative environment. Either the presence of women or competition or both lead to a significant increase in male performance.18 The case is quite different for women. They tend to reduce their effort when paired with men in case of team pay, and perform best when competing against men" "we find that men and women are equally attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:55 PM
8

Please see the sidebar for multiple links on how modern feminism is actively anti-male. First- and Second-wave feminism had valid rights and issues to fight for. Feminism in its current form (and I would say that there is a divide here between mainstream feminism and academic feminism) largely fights for expanded rights at the expense of men, and sans responsibilities. I'll believe that feminism is fighting for equal rights when NOW holds a rally demanding Selective Service Cards on the National…
/r/MensRights22/01/15 12:40 AM
4

Sorry some of the anger & frustration is being thrown your way here. I really appreciate your coming in and being inquisitive & polite.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 12:25 AM
5

This is the only truly relevant paragraph: "The fraternities wrote, 'We are concerned that the university’s revision to the FOA may create new liability for individual members of our organizations that is more properly a duty to be borne by the university itself.'"
/r/MensRights14/01/15 01:47 PM
6

Here
/r/MensRights16/12/14 04:37 PM
25

If you can't handle incoming words, you sure as hell can't handle incoming rounds.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 01:41 PM
-1

outside of prison Why is this a metric that you can brush aside, but gender isn't?
/r/MensRights04/10/14 01:22 PM
1

Sex, usually.
/r/seduction26/09/14 10:59 PM
2

I couldn't agree more with all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 08:25 AM
6

And trying to guilt someone into one is a bad way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 06:58 PM
2

It is 'real', as in it is an actual group with a platform and a (disjointed and internally inconsistent) worldview, but it is not 'real' in the sense that anyone in academic, political, or other spheres of influence give their opinions any weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:06 PM
1

A lot of things in these subs are nearly impossible to empirically test for. These 'theories' either jive with your experience or they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 02:21 PM
-1

I checked karmadecay, only came up with a two-upvote post in r/TIL.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 08:20 PM
4

Making others better makes the world better. Making the world better makes you better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 05:33 PM
45

"autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice.” Fucking amen.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:43 PM
8

/r/Tumblrinaction Enjoy!
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 02:50 AM
4

Ok, this is a good point. The statement that all women do have to be concerned about those people who will harass or hurt them is absolutely undisputable. The disagreement comes in when men are blamed for contributing to the problem by their very existence. "Not all men" is a weak argument, true, but it matches in strength the assertion it rebukes. I think what some of us find frustrating here is the fact that any dissenting idea is shouted down instead of explained. I can understand wanting to …
/r/MensRights29/05/14 08:20 PM
4

It varies from state to state, but generally it means that you are licensed to carry a registered firearm, loaded or unloaded, on your person in a concealed holster. Completion of an approved safety course and a background check are required in my state before issuance.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 01:28 AM
3

Sure it is, and my point was that both feminists and MRAs are fighting those outmoded ideas.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 01:09 AM
14

Those arguments come almost exclusively from religious doctrine, not from MRA positions. Please help us dispense with the bronze-age ideas that men cannot be primary caregivers, and that women are too weak to be included in selective service. Let's all share the same rights, and the attendant responsibilities that come with them.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 07:24 PM
13

I think it's more often held that there are specific areas in which men are unfairly disadvantaged (family court, for instance), and MRAs seek to correct that. I don't often hear the argument that men are "oppressed" as a class in MR forums, though the MRM does generally disagree with the idea that women are either. In modern, first-world society, neither gender is systematically oppressing the other, though there are sociobiological advantages and disadvantages for each, and we should be workin…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 07:07 PM
16

What specific positions of the MRM do you object to?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:49 PM
2

#Yesallfrogmen
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:46 PM
2

Medic here, I saw CFS totally destroy a friend of mine. A normal, motivated Marine became almost completely rackbound. He got drummed out on medical disability. It's a real thing, though rare. Although I disagree with Frogman's stance here, I'm not gonna kneejerk assume that he's lying about his medical condition.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:41 PM
5

I'd eat the whole bowl. I don't want to live in a world where I can't have M&Ms.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:33 PM
6

Yep, it's sometimes the first phase, and also the source of some of the worst parts of TRP. But instead of dealing with the reality he'd glimpsed, he ran right back down the allegorical BP cave, and blamed women for their natural inclinations, rather than using his insight to make himself more desirable. Truly a sad story. Dude clearly needed major therapy, and a father figure in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 04:17 AM
9

It's still bluepill to see it & not exploit it. He'd taken the first step, but instead of "going redpill" and exploiting the opportunity by improving himself, he took bluepill to its ultimate extent, blaming women for not seeing him as the perfect gentleman he was told they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 03:11 AM
3

Patient confidentiality only comes into play in an actual medical setting. HIPPA does not apply to random medical advice in the wild.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/14 02:55 PM
1

My experience says otherwise, I'm often asked to help, if it's somewhere I go regularly. Also, I live in a place with 24 hour bars, so closing time is generally at the bartender's discretion. That might have something to do with it.
/r/seduction27/03/14 06:02 PM
1

I've actually become a specialist at picking up bartenders. My basic approach: become a regular on their shift for a week or two, be charming, tip well. Then show up near closing one night, help her close, walk/drive her home, make your move. This has worked for me multiple times for years.
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:38 AM
0

"Real Feminists" are like "Real Christians" it just means "only people who agree with me are right".
/r/MensRights19/02/14 05:27 PM
1

It sucks that you can't be a nice person without people taking advantage of you, but that's life. You can. It's difficult, but you can. It's all about boundaries.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/14 08:11 AM
9

Sometimes offense IS given, you worthless fuck. Everyone who ever loved you was wrong. /s
/r/TheRedPill02/02/14 12:53 AM
2

Well "seeming" mandatory is a far cry from being mandatory. I would hope that all new parents educate themselves on the procedures that go into the childbirth process. And even if it isn't mandatory, or if the birth doesn't take place in a hospital, would you have any objection to it being made a more commonplace procedure in order to definitively determine genetic parentage for medical reasons? What about testing prenatally? Paternity can be determined as early as 8wks into a pregnancy with 99.…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 11:35 AM
4

Hahaha, no. A quick perusal of my history would tell you how wrong you are. That was nowhere close to screaming. To be clear: I disagreed with a specific point, and gave you a source showing why I believed that pre-birth testing was the most efficient, most humane way to go about genetically testing for paternity. Ethically however, this method would require the mother's consent. Hopefully it will one day become common enough a practice that no one will take offense at determining paternity.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 11:27 AM
1

Good point.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 07:50 AM
3

Non-invasive prenatal testing is available, how about that?!
/r/MensRights30/01/14 07:48 AM
6

Care to elaborate?
/r/MensRights30/01/14 07:45 AM
0

Children can't consent, otherwise nobody would be vaccinated. Their parents consent, and it is unethical to ask for unilateral consent in this case. Pre-birth testing would require the mother's consent. The quickest, least invasive method (NIPP) can be performed as early as 8wk, requires only a blood draw from the mother and is 99.9% accurate. This is the most sensible method to determine paternity before the child is born. http://americanpregnancy.org/prenataltesting/paternitytesting.html
/r/MensRights30/01/14 03:44 AM
7

Yes, absolutely!
/r/MensRights30/01/14 03:35 AM
3

Sure, it's pretty common knowledge (especially in this sub) that family court is incredibly and unjustifiably prejudiced against men, and needs to be fixed. This is a specific issue I haven't seen on here before, however.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 03:34 AM
1

Well in that case you're forcing the mother to give up her DNA without her knowledge or consent, which is one of the most unethical practices I've ever heard of. Any doctor who engaged in that procedure would have their license stripped immediately.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 03:32 AM
2

I'll know when my children are mature enough to make certain decisions better than govt will. Probably, but the concern is to protect infants from those parents who may be less thoughtful. This is why a government mandate is useful here. I'll consider postponing circumcision until they can choose. I'm very glad to hear that. But I'll catch an earful from the men (and probably women) in my family if I really do postpone. Like you said, your children, your decision. Not your family's. deeply antis…
/r/MensRights24/01/14 06:18 PM
1

Whatever the intended purpose of either procedure, there are irreversible deleterious consequences for the victim. Whether or not to gain the "positive" effects of circumcision is a major life choice which should be left up to the owner of the foreskin.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 05:45 PM
2

I'm not advocating an outright ban, just a ban until the age of majority, whatever that might be in your country. I hope you allow your sons to make this decision for themselves. Also, as a medic, I can think of many more sterile places than a hospital.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 05:40 PM
10

You could make the same argument for FGM: a man as the head of his household should be able to choose to genitally mutilate his daughter. Bodily integrity is a HUMAN right.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 04:08 PM
13

Well I'll just be opening a tattoo shop in my local hospital then!
/r/MensRights24/01/14 03:40 PM
4

No one gives a shit about your opinions on US foreign policy Unfortunately, lots of people do care about celebrities' opinions on foreign policy, because people conflate fame/financial success with expertise.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/14 02:30 PM
26

Are you saying women are so dumb, that they can derive their whole sense of self-worth from beer commercials?
/r/MensRights11/01/14 09:05 AM
1

She loved this, thank you.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 05:58 PM
18

u/jpflathead used LOGIC. It was not very effective.
/r/MensRights26/12/13 03:39 AM
3

You absolutely have a point here. Of course her (and my) views on the subject are more nuanced, I just thought this was a humorous anecdote that people here might get a chuckle out of.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 01:09 PM
1

But aren't the ideas espoused by radical feminism still fairly powerful in the social consciousness?
/r/MensRights24/12/13 01:03 PM
3

Seems to have worked out ok. And fuck me, but I like intelligent conversation with the girls I'm "dicking".
/r/MensRights24/12/13 01:02 PM
3

No worries on the pedestal thing. Learned my lesson a long time ago.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 01:51 AM
29

I did mention that it was breakfast the next morning, yes? And there appears to be all signs of a mutually desired repeat performance.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 12:41 AM
24

Feel free to believe that, but it definitely happened. They're out there, dude.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 12:23 AM
39

I plan to.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 12:21 AM
3

Yeah, it's only been a couple of dates, but she's doing well so far.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 12:20 AM
2

TIL. Other virtues? Hot, artistic, independent, tough (we got blindsided by some drama in my social circle while we were out & she handled it like a champ), and we constantly crack each other up. She's looking like keeper material so far.
/r/MensRights23/12/13 11:52 PM
12

I paraphrased as best I could. C'mon.
/r/MensRights23/12/13 11:29 PM
4

Also works for fleshlights.
/r/MensRights22/12/13 02:00 AM
2

Does that make you an NRA?
/r/MensRights12/12/13 01:18 PM
4

This should be our banner.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 01:17 PM
2

If 'feminism' now claims to be fighting for everyone's rights, then it REALLLY needs a new name. 'Feminism', just by the name alone is about increasing female societal power. In many ways this is a valid and worthy cause. Likewise, Men's Rights Activism is about increasing male societal power where it is lacking. I think very few of us MRAs deny that male power has been dominant in most societies for a variety of reasons throughout human history. A redress of this imbalance in a rational, equita…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 01:13 PM
7

Problem is, they're coming from a philosophy which asserts that there is a pervasive, overarching "rape culture" which subtly encourages & congratulates the bullies, the rapists (not to imply that those two behaviors are necessarily related). My personal belief is that people are naturally selfish and violent (how else did we get to the top of the food chain?) as well as being social creatures (which can lead to altruistic tendencies). Both of these elements of human nature are expressed in ever…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 07:44 PM
1

Whoops! Actually, my name is the only one I see accidentally left in there.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 01:43 PM
2

Original link which sparked the whole thing here.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 12:39 PM
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