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This might be true for Christians and Muslims, but not Jews. Most Jews aren't really into the whole waiting until marriage thing, and the ones who are usually get married fairly young, and aren't going to marry a non-Jew.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:19 PM
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Frequenting conservative and religious circles is a viable strategy for finding a virgin. These women don't want men who look at porn and are into weird fetish shit. Some might overlook a guy having slept with women in his past, but they're not going to date someone who is still looking at porn and has no plans of stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:18 PM
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I know it's anecdotal, but I was a virgin, and quite a bit younger than my husband, when we met. He was not a virgin, very far from it. The catch is, he is a 10/10 Chad looking guy, and he treats me like a princess. I wouldn't have settled for any less. If a guy wants to date a virgin, then he has to be a top-tier guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:16 PM
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I like rough sex, a lot. I wouldn't be compatible with someone who couldn't bring themselves to do it, even occasionally. I wouldn't cheat on someone over it, but I don't think I'd stay in a relationship like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:09 PM
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Feminism is not to blame for this. Very few people under 30 earn enough money to support a spouse and one child. Most don't even earn enough to support a spouse without a child and still have a comfortable lifestyle. And because our society doesn't have the same social support system that existed years ago, many young couples aren't going to have a kid that they can't afford to raise. Not to mention, a lot of men aren't willing to settle down with women before their late 20s or early 30s. Going …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:58 PM
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Grow a beard. Beards boost ugly men up a point or two, but subtract several points from men who are average or attractive. Women are aware that a lot of men grow beards to hide weak chins and jawlines, and therefore, won't date a man with a beard unless she's fine dating a man who is not very attractive when he's clean shaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:38 PM
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Fake hair, yes. Most women don't like bald men, and a lot of men get lazy and just shave their heads when they start to go bald. If those men were willing to invest in a good hairpiece, they'd be able to go out with more attractive women. For makeup, some men could benefit from wearing a little concealer if they have terrible skin. Men with bad skin would have more luck in the dating world if they wore concealer. Men can also wear clothes that are designed to make their body type look more attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:33 PM
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Yes, body type is just one factor that determines attractiveness. But women don't care if men are fit or not if he lacks certain other physical traits such as height, nice hair, wide shoulders, thick beard growth, strong jaw, film star eyes etc (i.e. the Chad traits). Pretty much. Women want a guy who is attractive overall, not just someone who isn't fat. If a man is short, bald, and has a face that's not very attractive, then his body type is irrelevant, his looksmatch is an overweight woman wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:15 PM
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Women don’t go around looking at every man they see as providers. Meanwhile, men, including married men, admit that they see random women in public and think of them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 04:45 PM
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Honestly, I don’t really respect or trust most men for this exact reason. Unless they show me that they respect me and don’t just see me as a sexual object, I keep my distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 04:43 PM
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It's more contagious than the flu, and it's more deadly than the flu because no vaccine exists for it. That being said, the mortality rate is 0.2% among people under 40. The ones under 40 dying are ones that already have pre-existing conditions. Young healthy people aren't dying of coronavirus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:20 PM
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I think it's reasonable. If marriage is something you want, then spending years of your life with someone who doesn't prioritise it is a waste of time. If you've been with someone for a year and you aren't certain you want to marry them, then it's time to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:15 PM
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I got married after only knowing my husband for 8 months. We are still together. If it takes you 10 years to figure out if someone is right for you, then they're probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:58 PM
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Most makeup looks, women do regardless of how men feel about it. Women aren’t doing it to please men, they wear makeup for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 02:15 AM
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Making plans for the second date on the first date is very important, because the "I'll call you" routine pretty much always means "later bitch, byeeee!". If a woman doesn't want to see you again, being pushy about setting up the second date while on the first date will just mean getting stood up for that date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:56 PM
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Nothing she has said is untrue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:53 PM
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And yes, I've seen women end dates like it's the end of a job interview "Okay, this was good. Thank you. We'll be in touch. See you...around!" lololol. Fucking brutal. If the date sucks, this basically is the best way to end it. It's polite but lets the guy know he won't be seeing you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:50 PM
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I think you should rethink that. Do you think your husband doesn't watch porn? You're basically making him go at lengths to hide it from you. Wanting a husband who doesn't watch porn is acceptable, and he married her knowing that. She shouldn't be expected to change her mind just because he finds it inconvenient to hide it from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:37 PM
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I drink once or twice a day...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:35 PM
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A lot of women would never date a divorced guy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 02:55 PM
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I’ve never been into it. And I’m not post-wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:48 PM
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You can be submissive without the daddy/little girl aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:46 PM
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I find it creepy and weird, I’m not into it. I’m very submissive and all, but I don’t incorporate that into our sex life, it’s just not something I’m into.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:45 PM
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That sounds like a violent threat. I don't want a friendly relationship with someone who wants to see me be physically harmed because I didn't want to talk to him. And because I know there are men out there like that, I'm always armed when I leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:06 PM
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What she's saying is, it's okay to snub those guys if you're not interested in them. They're not starting these conversations to be good neighbours, they're doing it because they're sexually attracted to you, and that's all they want, no friendship or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:04 PM
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Deep throating isn’t possible unless you’ve taken something to numb your gag reflex This isn't true. and then there is a legit risk of choking That's what a safe gesture is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:59 PM
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it’s perfect acceptable to expect deep throating, cumming on faces, surprise anal, choking and slapping in a relationship. These are all things that I like. Not all women are into it, but some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:54 PM
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Some men don't like women to be completely bare. Not only that, a lot of women get ingrown hairs due to shaving, which can lead to infections and stuff. I don't ask my husband to remove any body hair, in fact, I prefer it. I hate facial hair and I expect him to shave his face. I shave the rest of my body other than the pubic area, so I think that's a fair compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:51 PM
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I like it. I'm able to orgasm from PiV alone though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:43 PM
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I told him that I really liked him. I don't see the point in trying subtle ways to let a guy know you're interested, just tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:38 PM
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Wearing a low-cut top doesn't make you promiscuous. Why would I, or any man marry such a woman?? A lot of men want a woman who is sexually confident, and wants to look good for her husband. I obviously support a woman's right to wear whatever she wants, but I don't think it's good for a marriage if a woman always wears clothes her husband finds frumpy or unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:36 PM
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Why don’t they just accept being plain and average like men do? No one wants their partner to see them as plain and average. It's nice knowing that your partner sees you as the best woman he's ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:10 PM
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Because most men I've met only wanted sex, not a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:30 PM
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I'm a heterosexual woman, and I don't find average men attractive. To be honest, I'm probably only attracted to 1-2% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:26 PM
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Those 15% of men having kids with multiple women are in the 20-80% category, most aren’t top 20% guys. My husband had 4 serious relationships before me, and was never married. We are undecided on having kids. We’ve been together for years, and he’s shown no signs of wanting to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 07:20 PM
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If people keep their sexual desires to themselves, they can't be shamed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:57 PM
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Land yourself a man from the 20-80% bracket and you will most likely have a man for life, it will be very ordinary, but it is the safe choice and it can still be a good life. I'd rather be single for life. If you land yourself a man from the 20% it likely won't last, you'll just be 1 in 4 women he has a serious relationship/kids with Do you honestly believe that 20% of men have kids with four different women? I married a top 20% guy. I know he's had serious relationships before me, I don't care.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:55 PM
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They still (publicly) insist that any talk about sex is a turn off. Because a lot of people don't understand nuance. A guy who is pleasant and charming knows how to dirty talk within the first few minutes of a conversation without offending women, partially because he knows if the woman is interested in him or not. The vast majority of guys lack this awareness. They don't really know if the woman is into them or not, and they don't know what type of dirty talk women enjoy, so they just say somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:50 PM
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Overall, I don't enjoy the company of men. I very much enjoy the company of my husband though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:44 PM
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Literally, every single woman wakes up and puts on make up, no matter a lot or a little, and who are they putting this make up on for? Who do lesbians put on makeup for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 07:26 PM
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Most of those songs are written by men. Women who don't want to sing about relationships rarely get offered a major record label contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 07:16 PM
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I'm a woman, mine is physical touch for giving and receiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 07:14 PM
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Honestly, I do have a preference for white guys, particularly white men with blue eyes. If that offends someone, I don’t care. I’m friendly toward people of all races, and no one is entitled to sexual attention from anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:02 PM
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No, he’s just not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:05 AM
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I’m not white. I’m also not a racist. I just don’t find him attractive. He’s like a 5 to me, and I don’t date or sleep with 5s. He doesn’t have a handsome face, just a good body, and women are usually not into men who have fit bodies but unattractive faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 11:13 PM
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He's not malformed. Having a larger nose and a shorter chin does not make you deformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:18 PM
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How is he gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:54 PM
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Nice dinner and champagne at home. He bought me chocolates and a teddy bear, I'm buying his gift today.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:49 PM
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Fight Club Brad Pitt I'd still go out with him..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:46 PM
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There's nothing attractive about him in that second photo (first photo doesn't load).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:41 PM
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For me, guys who look like Captain America.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:38 PM
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He's not violently hideous. I'd obviously prefer the muscular Brad Pitt, but the guy on the left is not unattractive at all, and I'd go out with him if I were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:30 PM
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Well not inside my country Romania has fairly high rates of human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:15 PM
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My husband is sexually satisfied. We do it daily, sometimes more. I wouldn't be in a relationship with someone who considered sex to be a favour that I'm doing for him. I don't play games like withholding sex to get my way, so I'm not going to put up with someone who holds other activities over my head in order to get their way sexually. My husband is a grown man, if we need to buy something for the house, he can spend a few hours at IKEA with me helping me pick something out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:55 PM
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I don't want to be with someone who has anything to do with the sex trade. A lot of prostitutes are forced into it anyway, especially in countries like Romania. A lot of prostitutes in Romania are Romany women who were kidnapped and forced into prostitution, and pimps get away with it. Prostitution is closely tied to human trafficking. I want nothing to do with someone who participates in that. On another level, it's just pathetic. If you are so unappealing that you can't find someone who wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:48 PM
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Someone who frequently has forced sex fantasies probably has a lot of fantasies about sex in general. They're likely very sex-positive, and think about sex often. So it makes sense that someone who has kinkier fantasies just fantasises about sex more often than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:39 PM
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How is it drama? A lot of couples happily engage in this sort of roleplay, there's no drama connected to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:36 PM
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Someone might be into forcing strong, masculine men into submission. Or they might be into being dominated by short twink men. Who you are attracted to and what you want to do with them doesn't always match up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:31 PM
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That's not what OP is saying. OP is saying that rape fantasies make the woman feel powerful, because the guy is risking everything just to have sex with her because she's that irresistable. OP also said it's just a theory of hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:28 PM
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What makes it funny is how unaware they are of their own blatant hypocrisy It's not hypocritical. You can recognise your biological impulses, but decide not to follow them 24/7 because doing so would mean living a lifestyle that's unappealing to you. I like dominant men. That doesn't mean I want a husband who demands I become a stay at home mom and who refuses to listen to my opinions. That wouldn't be an enjoyable life, and not something I'd want to put up with 24/7 just to fulfill a sexual des…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:18 PM
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I'm very much a feminist, and and I have submissive fantasies. I don't see it as a contradiction. What someone enjoys in the bedroom isn't a reflection of their ideology. It doesn't mean I want strict rigid gender roles in everyday life. Some people are into doctor/nurse roleplays. That doesn't mean that working in a hospital would actually turn them on. Not to mention, people who have a BDSM dynamic in the bedroom usually don't have it carry over to every other aspect of their daily lives. Bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:11 PM
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A lot of women have only had negative experiences with men. A lot of guys are manipulative, pushy, and cruel toward women. Or are only interested in sex and not a relationship. Some people get sick of trying, and find their own happiness being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 06:54 PM
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About an 8. Looks are extremely important, but I don't disregard personality either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:27 PM
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That's a valid response though. If someone considers themselves high value, and their high value spouse considers them high value, that means a lot more than whether random strangers on the internet consider them high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:18 PM
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Very physically attractive. Thick hair, hourglass figure, pretty face. Feminine. Only ever slept with or even kissed one man, my husband. High libido and kinky. Intelligent. Somewhat submissive. Very loyal and caring wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:10 PM
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Obviously the love for a romantic partner is more passionate and romantic, but you should still care about them in platonic ways as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:30 PM
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"do women want to fuck Chad?" because the answer is always no For many women, the answer is yes. "would a woman who had bought into the 50 Shades fantasy bang an unemployed bum who claimed to be an entrepreneur?" the answer would be a clear yes. That's a stupid analogy. If a guy were an unemployed bum but could successfully present himself as a wealthy entrepreneur, then the women he sleeps with would assume he's a wealthy entrepreneur. Him actually being a bum is irrelevant. That's like saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:22 PM
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Not cheating makes you morally superior to cheating. If a man wants a wife and a mistress, then he should tell women before starting a relationship that he is polyamorous and wants more than one partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:00 PM
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sending your girl texts throughout the day about how you wanna fuck her, constantly touching her to remind her how sexy she is, being inventive in your approach in order to,keep things from being stale... Why can you not do this, and be a caring, loving individual? It's certainly possible, my husband fulfills both roles. They're not conflicting roles or personalities. The Madonna-Whore Complex is conflicting though. You can't be prudish and slutty at the same time. And even if you do meet a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:58 PM
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That’s because no one wants a hateful partner. Incels are hateful. And OP was physically and sexually assaulted. That’s actual abuse and trauma. Being rejected for being ugly or awkward is not abuse. Incels see themselves as victims, because they see someone rejecting them as a form of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 11:20 PM
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A beer can is actually 8". A Red Bull can is 6.5".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:31 PM
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Do you have a source to back up your claim? Because if not, anecdotal evidence > no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:22 PM
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I do kind of see her point though. If someone is working full time (40 hours a week) and can't even afford a studio apartment, that says something about that area's economy. Either wages are too low or housing prices are too high. Keep working until you make enough to support yourself in the style to which you aspire. Wages in the last 15 years have not increased at anywhere near the same rate as housing prices, or even inflation rates. And during the Recession of 2008, one of the first things t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:19 PM
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women like you will respond to advancements such as male birth pill or even sexrobots. I have no feelings on sex robots either way. A man who would use a sex robot is not a man that most women would be interested in anyway, so no one will notice him being gone from the dating pool. And I fully support male birth control pills. I wouldn't stop using my own pills though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:13 PM
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And their men pay for it. That's the trade-off for being able to live in a clean, smoothly run household and get three meals a day without having to do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:11 PM
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Why should feminists have to take time out of their day to fight to get more men in college? When there's an inequality that affects women, we do something about it. If men are too lazy to get off their asses, instead of sitting around waiting for feminists to fix their problems, then they don't deserve to get their problem fixed. Feminism is a women's rights movement. I focus my time on issues of inequality that negatively affect women. Nothing is stopping men from doing something about issues …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:05 PM
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It depends on so many other factors. The age of the guy. A 30 year old will usually prefer a late 20s single mom, a guy in his 40s will be more likely to prefer the 40 year old woman. How attractive is each woman? Most guys aren't into women more than a few years older than them, unless the woman looks very good, and a little younger than her actual age. How many kids does the single mom have, and what are the circumstances that led to her being a single mom? A lot more guys are open to dating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:00 PM
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Same actor, different bodies. 99% of women prefer the one on the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:50 PM
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A. Gyms are free now? News to me. A Planet Fitness membership is $40 a year. If you can't afford to spend $3.33 a month on the gym, then you are really not in a position to be dating. You can't go on a coffee shop date for less than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:45 PM
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Being slightly chubby is fine, as long as the guy is open to dating slightly chubby women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:42 PM
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I find muscular men more attractive than guys who aren't muscular. It's a preference, but it's not a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:33 PM
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I was called a slut back when I was a virgin. And the only man I've ever slept with or even kissed is my husband, and I'm still called a slut by some people as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:08 PM
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There's a huge difference between someone consensually having anal sex with many strangers, and a guy who won't leave a woman alone or starts stalking her. Creeps do directly affect non-consenting individuals, so shaming them is fair. Sluts can be ignored and don't bother any non-consenting individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:06 PM
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My stance on lying is that if you do it, it's fair game if you get stood up. On more than one occasion, I was going on a blind date set up by friends and the guy was heavier or otherwise looked different than the photos he texted me, and I would leave without even saying hello. Maybe that seems harsh, but it's manipulative to make someone think you're more attractive than you are, hoping to embarrass them into staying for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:03 PM
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I'd say he has to be at least a full inch taller, so 5'7" would be okay, as long as he was fine with the fact that in heels, I'm taller. There's a little flexibility when it comes to height, I wouldn't turn down an absolutely model-tier 10/10 guy for being 5'5", as long as he didn't have insecurity over it. What is a dealbreaker is lying about it, which is actually very common among guys who are close to my height. A lot of guys want to seem closer to 6' than 5', so a lot of guys bump their heig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 02:36 PM
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Some feminists already refuse engagement rings from their partners, or at least refuse diamond rings. Personally, I don't see the advantage of that. You can't avoid all societal double standards that negatively affect women, so why would you turn down something that benefits you? Refusing things like engagement rings and nice jewellery just means you get all the disadvantages of being a woman without enjoying a nice benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:02 PM
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And most people aren't buying kid's clothes at thrift shops or cleaning products at Dollar Tree. Therefore, they are part of the household budget, and they are things that for most couples, the woman makes the decisions on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:53 PM
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Most women are fine with you doing the grocery shopping if it means that much to you. Most people see grocery shopping as a chore rather than a privilege, so they'd be more than happy to pass it off to the other person if they're passionate about doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:50 PM
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Most men are fine with their girlfriends or wives controlling the household spending. Most men don't care what brand of hand soap or ketchup their wife buys, to them, it's one less household chore to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:46 PM
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And if you are going off the grid for a week because you’re camping or something, you tell people. A quick text like “hey, I’m going on a hiking excursion, I probably won’t have signal for the next few days, let’s catch up on Monday.” Just disappearing for days shows a lack of social skills.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 09:20 PM
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Something like this happened my freshman year of college. I met the guy on some campus Facebook page, and we had plans to meet for coffee. He sent me this while I was just a few minutes away, letting me know that his pictures were 2 years old and he had since gained some weight and shaved his head since he started going bald. I texted him back saying I wouldn’t be showing up, overweight men and bald/shaved head men aren’t my type, so I’m not going to waste his time or mine.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 09:06 PM
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However, being red pilled means that you accept evolutionary biology, which is the exact opposite of intelligent design taught by religion. Christianity isn't the only religion. Many religions are 100% compatible with evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 12:14 AM
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None of the other subreddits you've named advocated for things like legalising rape, kidnapping, domestic violence, or child pornography, all things that MGTOW is guilty of. FDS might be manipulative, but they are one of the most vocal subreddits against sexual abuse of children, not apologists like MGTOW and the incel community.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 03:53 PM
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Cavill’s body is exceptionally fit though, compared to the average man. Models are irrelevant, most women aren’t dating literal body models. So compared to all men, Cavill’s body is way above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:16 AM
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He’s incredibly attractive. Handsome face, tall, blue eyes, muscular, etc. He’s one of the most fuckable guys I can think of actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:14 AM
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They’re not wrong. The advice is still valid though. If you’re short and ugly, you can go from a 3 to a 5 by having a really good body.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:02 AM
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Most women would gladly fuck Chris Evans...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:59 AM
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I think it’s more that if a guy is already attractive in other ways (face, hair, height), his body will be noticed more and be seen as more attractive than if he were not otherwise attractive. Also, all those examples you gave are more fit than 95% of men. Henry Cavill’s body is not “slightly above average”, he’s well more attractive than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:45 AM
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RPW is only beneficial if you want to be a subservient wife. If you don't want to do that, and you want a partner who doesn't subscribe to Red Pill views, then FDS is a much better ideology to follow. It's also far more practical, most men are shit. RPW attempts to deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:40 PM
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A lot of people are going to be attracted to someone who looks different to most other people around them, as long as they are reasonably attractive. Obviously the vast majority of people in Scandinavia are white, so black people are unique there. As long as the guy meets other criteria (isn't short/fat/ugly), he will have a better chance than an equally attractive white man. Obviously, this is a general rule but not always true. Some people have strong racial preferences one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:09 PM
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A lot of men don't realise that sometimes women don't lie about it just to avoid having something rude said to them, in certain situations, it's a safety issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:55 PM
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It's not boomers who are shaming women for admitting that they like cute tall guys, it's short ugly millennials/gen z'ers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:02 PM
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That's fair, but then men have to stop chastising women who are honest about their preference for Chads. A lot of women lie about it when in mixed company because they don't want to listen to angry rants and be labelled as a shallow whore. It's easier to just say 'I care a lot about personality' and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:58 PM
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My looks are definitely above average, so are my husband’s. We got married because we are more traditional in that regard, staying unmarried indefinitely, or having an open relationship don’t appeal to either of us. Average men are beneath me, if I’m being honest. I’m in good physical shape, put a load of tile and effort into looking my best, spend money regularly on maintaining that, and exercise daily. I don’t put the average amount of effort in, so why would I have settled for average?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:52 PM
2

Not really. There are asexual couples who have a romantic relationship but no sex. Or couples where one partner is disabled and can’t have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:14 PM
1

A $10 meal is incredibly expensive if you’re poor. Even $5 is out of some people’s price ranges. Not to mention, if you live in a poor neighbourhood with no car and no public transportation, you probably don’t even have access to a supermarket with fresh meats and produce, you are probably shopping at Dollar General. Someone living in poverty probably cannot afford to eat healthy. Which is why poor people have way higher obesity rates than middle class people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:17 PM
3

If a member of BTS died (which would be a tragedy since I think they’re all very young) and a female fan cried, she’d be called a fan girl. There’s definitely a double standard in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:26 PM
1

For me, about 70/30, leaning toward looks. Basically, the looks have to be high enough to even have the personality considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:20 PM
7

Most women are strongly attracted to their partners. Even if their partner isn’t incredibly conventionally attractive, most peoples don’t marry someone they don’t have chemistry with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:18 PM
4

In most cases, they were either unattractive, or I found their personalities annoying. A lot of guys would try 'negging' techniques, those guys would always get brutally rejected. I'd at least be polite to someone who just wasn't my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:03 PM
1

No, that's pretty much the whole concept behind TRP, seeing women as an object rather than people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:00 PM
1

I've never in my life gone out with an 'average man'. Average men aren't attractive in the least. I wouldn't go out with someone who is too lazy to make the effort to meet attractive women. If he finds it easier to pay for sex than being a good partner, then they're not a good partner, either because they're ugly, bad in bed, or have the personality of a sea urchin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 01:19 PM
1

If a guy can only pick up fat single moms, then he falls into Category 1: too unattractive for me to consider for dating or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:24 AM
1

3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:11 AM
5

We still wouldn’t be compatible. A guy who pays for sex instead of trying to meet a woman at a bar or on Tinder either: Is ugly, or at least well below the range I’d consider attractive. Is socially awkward, which isn’t even the least bit attractive. Can’t go any length of time without sex, and is therefore not marriage material. I have a high libido, but I can’t be with someone who is going to be looking to cheat if I’m unwell or ever have surgery or something. Is into something incredibly fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:20 AM
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But there is a proven link between human trafficking and prostitution. And other professions don’t have pimps. A lot of prostitutes are trafficked immigrants, kidnapped American women who are forcibly given IV drugs, or runaway teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:16 AM
2

I married someone with a 100+ n count. He’s a really good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:12 AM
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Because a lot of prostitutes aren’t in it voluntarily. A lot of human trafficking victims, or forced into it by an abusive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:52 AM
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I wouldn’t date someone who had an incurable STD, that includes things like Herpes and HPV. I also wouldn’t date someone who has done something disgusting or illegal. Or paid for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:50 AM
2

If he does like going down on her, then it’s a win-win. If he doesn’t, then that’s his decision whether he does it or not. If he doesn’t, then it’s up to the woman to decide if she’s willing to stay with a guy who doesn’t give oral. To me, oral is standard in a relationship, and that goes both ways. I wouldn’t be with someone of oral were completely off the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:37 AM
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They don’t, if the guy they’re with makes an effort to go down on her or otherwise ensure she has an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 03:36 PM
1

Then they should buy those products, and stop buying products with White women on them. The market would change almost immediately. Brands with more racially diverse models have been doing very well. If you ask them in a survey? Sure. Because men imagine some hot non-White woman. But IRL? Asians do well, but not anyone else. I see couples all the time of white men and non-white women. Men say all sorts of things. But IME it's only the oddballs that actually go through with it. Don't get me wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:00 AM
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No woman wants a lazy partner. And I say that as one of the 30% that fall into the category you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:29 AM
1

It does for me. I've only ever been with one man though so I can't comment on any differences or variety. If so, why don’t so many of want to do it more? Because for some women, it is physically painful. Either due to their own biology, or a partner who doesn't care about getting them turned on, since dry sex is painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:26 AM
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True, but a man who doesn't like how I wear my hair or makeup isn't someone who I would even go on one date with, since I'm not changing my look for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:22 AM
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That guy is like a 3/10 at best. No woman is caving to his demands. If he meets a woman, she will be obese and probably not wear any makeup at all. No one is contouring for a guy too lazy to trim his pubey beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:17 AM
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That's exactly what I would expect for Reddit. Redditors will rate ugly men way higher than reality, because those men look like themselves, and they want to try to build them up. Meanwhile, they want to try to bring attractive women down, in the hopes that the woman on the left will be willing to go out with that guy on the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:13 AM
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If you only date white and/or black men, the percentage of 6' tall men goes way up. But even going off of the 14% figure, that's certainly not impossible. Most people probably automatically reject 86% of potential partners anyway for one reason or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:08 AM
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She wants a guy who is going to be a few inches taller than her in heels. If she's 5'4" and regularly wears 3" heels, and wants the guy to be at least 5" taller than her in heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:02 AM
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But they were a kinda "global standard of beauty" for a while right? For a while, sure. But people want a more inclusive representation of beauty that doesn’t just mean white women. There are always some people with niche preferences sure. But it's a niche. It’s not a niche. I would argue that the majority of white men are open to dating a non-white woman. This is also true. But the key word is "attractive" and there aren't that many attractive non-White women. I have never seen one IRL. And yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:03 PM
3

She looks perfectly fine to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:05 PM
2

Look at Victoria's Secret. Didn't they have mostly tall White women? Yes, they're also losing money, so they're a terrible example. But an attractive White woman is the global standard of beauty. That doesn't mean there aren't men who prefer women of other races or have no preference. Attractive non-white women don't have a problem meeting attractive white men who are into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:04 PM
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She's very attractive. And the facial hair is irrelevant. If you are committed to removing your facial hair daily, no one sees it so it's not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:47 PM
3

But this is your own personal racial bias. You think Eastern European and other white women are more attractive than Middle Easterners. And you're entitled to that view. But a lot of white guys would be open to dating Middle Eastern women, and consider them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:40 PM
1

I can't remember seeing a Chad go Middle Eastern. I'm Middle Eastern and I'm married to a white guy who could be described as a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:26 PM
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Yes, most men would. She's looks like an Arabic Auntie. It sounds like you just don't like Middle Eastern people to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:24 PM
3

Most men find Gal Gadot incredibly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:22 PM
1

I wouldn't like that. That being said, I wouldn't marry a man who wanted to stay home, and I wouldn't marry a man who makes significantly less than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:52 PM
1

does excluding social media using women exclude all viable options Pretty much. I'm not social-media obsessed or anything, but if a guy told me that he doesn't date women who use social media, I would think 2 things: He sounds like he comes with a lot of drama. Either he's opposed to it because he's needy or insecure. Or he hates anything modern and I'll be stuck listening to lots of rants about how much better things were 200 years ago. Or he has some odd political views that involve hating soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:46 PM
1

It excludes well above 90% of women. A guy who has such a rule is going to have very limited choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:38 PM
1

That's going to be different for every couple. Overall though, I would say that unless one partner is upfront about wanting sex way less, or suffering from a medical condition, around once or twice a month is the minimum expectation. Meaning, if you're having sex less than once a month, you're not an asshole if you end the relationship and move on. That's just the minimum though. I think couples, unless one partner hates sex, should strive to have sex at least once a week. In my marriage, we pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:30 PM
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He's not doing good work. Rather than improving himself to attract more attractive women, he's ranting about someone who is not only getting laid, but getting laid by men who fit her very narrow preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:18 PM
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Her standards are working for her though. Why should she lower her standards if she's having no problem attracting 6'5" men? Not to mention, some super tall men (like 6'6" and up) don't have conventionally attractive faces, or they are super skinny and don't have conventionally attractive bodies. Super models might prefer a handsome 6' guy over a 6'5" awkward guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:15 PM
2

Both are attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 11:35 PM
1

I can’t imagine only eating 1200 calories a day. That’s not worth it to have a thigh gap (to me).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:31 AM
1

Many women don’t get super skinny unless they barely eat anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:18 AM
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I know that some do. I don’t consider it attractive though. I also bike about 5-10 miles a day and work out at home. I’m assuming they just don’t eat much in order to maintain a though gap, since having a thigh gap means you don’t have much muscle in your thighs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:08 AM
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I don’t want a thigh gap. I’m about her size and I look just fine when I sit down. No rolls or anything. If you have good posture there shouldn’t be any folds or rolls when you sit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:23 AM
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That doesn't change what I said at all. You can also ignore your doctor when they tell you to stop smoking three packs a day. That doesn't mean you're right and the doctor is wrong. Being underweight isn't healthy. It leads to osteoporosis, thinning hair, a lower immune system, and infertility. None of that is worth it, to me, to look like this in a bikini when I can be healthy, enjoy food, and look like this in a bikini instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 11:52 PM
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Very few women demand that men are muscular. The requirements for men basically are: Have a job and make an appropriate income for the socio-economic group you are trying to attract. Don't be fat. Don't be bald. Don't be unkempt. Don't dress like shit. All these are things required of women, with the following difference: Have a job, and either make enough or have above-average domestic skills. Fat women don't attract men. Plus size/slightly overweight women do, if they have a curvy figure (big …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 11:44 PM
1

It's not. A 5'4" woman who only weighs 95 pounds will be advised by her doctor to gain a little weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 11:07 PM
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95 pounds for a 5'4" woman is a BMI of 16.3, very underweight. 110 pounds would be quite thin but still healthy. If you want a BMI of 21.75, which is right in the centre of the healthy BMI range, that would be 127 pounds. A healthy 5'4" woman should be between 108-145 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:35 PM
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It's not a male scale. A BMI of 19 is very thin, but still healthy. When you start getting into 17 and 18, those women are actually underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:04 PM
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It's not "because vagina". It's because desirable female bodies and desirable male bodies are different. Some men prefer or are attracted to very skinny women, and some men prefer or are attracted to plus sized/thick women (not obese). Women, on the other hand, rarely find chubby men attractive, and not many are into very skinny men. The flip side is, women are held to a higher standard in other ways. Women are expected to remove all body hair. If a woman has thinning hair, she basically has to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:57 PM
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Bmi > 19 19 is about as low as you can get and still be a healthy weight, so your preference is underweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:17 PM
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There are a lot of plus sized yet attractive women who are with normal-BMI men. Some men are okay being with women in the size 16-18 range (especially men who are really into big boobs/thick thighs/big asses). Plus sized (not obese) women don't have to settle for fat men, so they don't. People will have standards as high as they are able to. An overweight but attractive woman with nice hair doesn't have to settle for a fat ungroomed man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:11 PM
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60% of Americans are overweight or obese. The median isn't thin, the median is overweight. If you took 100 random women and lined them up based on BMI, and eliminated one from the left and one from the right until you got to the woman in the middle (or technically two since it's an even number), that woman will be overweight but probably not obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:30 PM
1

The average woman does wear makeup at least some of the time, and do eyebrow care at least some of the time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:28 PM
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The average man has a similar BMI/body fat percentage. The reason women have high standards is because they make more effort than men in other ways. She has an attractive face from what i can tell, her hair is long, thick, and healthy, and she has no visible body hair. For her, being with an unshaven, balding overweight man would be a step down or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:27 PM
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He has a wife and son. They take priority over a grandmother and brother. His wife felt she was being mistreated by the media and wanted to get away. Surely he could sympathise since that's largely what killed his mother, so when she said she wanted to move to Canada, he didn't strongly object. And besides, I get the impression he's been wanting to get away from the royal life for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:33 PM
1

Some women actively prefer men with body hair, and consider hairless bodies to be a turn off. It's not laziness for a man to be hairy if that's what his partner prefers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:19 PM
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Especially armpit hair where sweat likes to linger. In my experience (I don't shave my underarms regularly in the winter), I have more BO when they're hairless than when there's some hair there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:18 PM
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armpit and leg hair are unattractive on both men and women I find hairless armpits and legs unattractive on men. And long hair vs. short hair is a bad comparison. I'd argue over 90% of men would date a woman with short hair. Very few men, probably less than 10% of men, would date a woman who shaves her head daily and is completely unwilling to grow it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:13 PM
1

A lot of women naturally have facial hair but remove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:08 PM
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I like when a guy has hair on the top of his head, but I also want to be able to see all his facial features. I'm not sure why this doesn't make sense. That's like asking why some men like women with hair on their heads but expect them to shave their body hair. most men lose their hair so what exactly happens when those locks are gone and they grow facial hair to compensate? Would you rather they don't grow facial hair at all because you dislike it? I like a full head of hair and no facial hair …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:05 PM
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My point is, they like him despite that, not because of it. Most women would go out with a handsome and charming guy who’s only been with one or two women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:05 AM
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Since the vetting process takes place before marriage Yes, but she would do vetting as well, and a man who forbids her from attending church or insists that the kids are not raised with religion would not be deemed worthy of being a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:21 AM
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Most right-wing conservative religious guys these days aren't appealing to right-wing conservative religious women. Not many right-wing, socially conservative guys are willing to completely give up pornography or masturbation, not to mention movies, shows, and video games with nudity. Religious right-wing women (at least the Christian ones I know) are devout. They don't watch Game of Thrones or R rated movies, they don't play video games (usually not at all, but especially none with sex or viole…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:14 AM
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It depends on the religion, but for the most part, a religious woman, especially a Christian or Muslim, is more likely to be traditional, submissive, and stay at home than an atheist woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:07 AM
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There's a huge difference between stay at home wives and trad wives. Trad wives are submissive, most stay at home wives are not unless they're also religious. Trad wives dress to be attractive to their husbands, a lot of stay at home wives don't, and in my experience, are frumpier than working wives. Trad wives have sex whenever their husbands want, most stay at home wives don't. Someone who becomes a stay at home wife/mom just because they're tired of working is probably not going to be a trad …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:04 AM
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Women actually prefer men that are good at getting women in bed, but then want him to let go of his options to be loyal to her. No, they prefer men who are handsome and charming. Men who are handsome and charming have probably been with more women than men who are not. If you want a 10/10 Chad, you have to accept that he's probably going to have been with quite a few women before you, because you're obviously not the first one to find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:55 PM
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I think it's an unrealistic expectation. The vast majority of women who want a very traditional lifestyle like you describe are religious. They might be okay with you not being religious, but it would be very unfair to seek out and marry a traditional woman, and then look down on her for attending religious services or wanting to raise the kids in her religion (or at least expose them to it and give them the choice).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:52 PM
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She was probably in a relationship with those men, at least short term, and knew they were STD free. Or maybe she just wasn't into you. Neither makes her prudish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:29 PM
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This is why i multiply body n counts by 3.5 and yes some people will give hand jobs,blow jobs and even thigh jobs and somehow not include that as sex? Very few people regularly have oral sex without PIV sex. Do you honestly believe that most women are regularly giving oral to men during ONS without expecting sex in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:28 PM
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If a guy has several women who want to sleep with him, then one of two things is true: He doesn't care, he wants to meet a potential lifelong partner, and is willing to wait three months for someone he genuinely cares about. He can get laid easily on a regular basis, so he ignores the woman who wants to wait three months, and instead pursues women who don't have such a timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:03 PM
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And that’s exactly why some women don’t have sex after just three dates. They want to ensure there’s more of a commitment, since future partners will judge them if guys in the past lied about their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:42 AM
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I’ve literally only ever kissed (and slept with) one guy my entire life, my husband. We have sex at least once a day. Not having casual sex doesn’t mean you don’t like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:06 AM
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Not for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:04 AM
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As a woman, there’s no reason not to. Friends of mine who have casual sex are always complaining that they rarely orgasm. A guy who is having a ONS with someone they don’t care about isn’t going to care if she orgasms, or take the time to find out what she’s into. I personally consider sex without orgasm a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:03 AM
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Some women have been with a lot of guys because they went on a few dates, had sex, and then the guy never called her back, because to him the three-date-rule was basically a ONS with extra steps. If you wait three months, you know the guy actually wants a relationship, since no one is going to wait that long just to have some casual sex and then ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:57 AM
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Raising the bar of average is not a bad thing. The average man in 2020 has a lazy appearance. That shouldn’t be the case. Things like regular shaving, regular haircuts, and wearing clothes that fit should be seen as standard, and not being even moderately well groomed should be considered below average, which is already how a lot of women see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:55 AM
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Women shouldn’t have rights because they don’t want to sleep with unattractive men? Women are, as a whole, more content being single than men. The person who is less needy gets to be pickier, that’s how all human interaction works. Either become more attractive or quit complaining, because no one cares about someone who won’t do anything to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:19 PM
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There are three choices: Become more attractive. Date unattractive women. Don't date. Most men aren't at their full potential. They could take steps to become more physically fit. They could start dressing better, get a better, more flattering haircut, and improve their overall grooming. If a guy doesn't want to do those things, then yes, his options are unattractive women or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:05 PM
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He doesn't have a conventional look so it's hard to say. His hairstyle/hair dye and fake tan are a matter of preference, but he is obese, so objectively that's unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:53 PM
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Men also get to choose who fucks them. A man isn't required to sleep with a woman he finds unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:48 PM
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That's a choice. You could also take the third choice and try to improve so you're above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:30 PM
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I’m almost certain the one night stands were the reason. Someone waiting until marriage might forgive it if it happened once or twice in college, but no one in the devoutly religious lifestyle wants a partner who violates a key aspect of the religion on a regular basis, and has a very different view on sex than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:42 AM
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6’ tall men certainly aren’t hard to find. In some European countries, 5’11” is the average. FWIW, I only ever went out with blue-eyed men and that’s a lot rarer than being 6’ tall. It’s just that it’s not such a rarity that it’s an impossible standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:33 AM
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I’m also in the southeastern US and I only had two fat professors in college (one male, one female). And both were highly respected in their fields, well above that of the average professor, and elderly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:22 AM
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Because being with someone who makes significantly less means a lifestyle decrease. Let’s say you like going to a concert once a month, that’s what you can afford. If your partner can’t afford to pay for their own ticket, that means you’re going to be going to less concerts or making a sacrifice somewhere else just to afford their ticket as well as your own. And that’s just one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:17 AM
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I wouldn’t call it mislabelling, since if a large percentage of a society deems something “asshole behaviour” it’s a social taboo. A lot of women think it’s sleazy for a guy to only want sex instead of a relationship. Whether you agree or disagree is irrelevant. A lot of women will see you as an asshole if that’s your intent. Men can argue all day long that they’re being mislabelled, but they’re not going to change anyone’s minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:12 AM
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Well, like I said, he eventually had many ONS (with women). Maybe this was a huge turn off to devoutly Catholic women. Most people who are waiting until marriage don’t want someone who has had many ONS. Devoutly religious people rarely have a hard time finding a spouse. Most get married young, and will settle for someone who isn’t exactly gorgeous as long as they share their religious values.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:04 AM
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The thing is though, when you get a vaccine, you're already warned that it's not 100% effective and can come with some negative side effects. It's just that for almost everyone, barring allergies or serious illness, the benefits significantly outweigh the risk. However, if someone were to argue 'vaccines are 100% effective and have no side effects', someone sharing their experience in which they had a negative side effect would be a valid argument to disprove the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:29 AM
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You'd be surprised. A lot of women who are into FDS have those views because they can afford to be picky. FDS is all about not settling for low-value men, and demanding high standards. Attractive women can afford to set very high standards and not settle for single dads/balding or overweight men/men with low-paying jobs. It's women who are less attractive or not very dateable who have to jump through hoops to attract men and settle for less than perfect men. Highly desired women can afford to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:27 AM
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I don't engage in debate with people who use those sorts of tactics though. That's like anti-vaxxers and Holocaust deniers who claim there's an abundance of evidence proving their claims, but 'the government destroyed all the evidence'. If all evidence proving your argument has gone missing, and all evidence disproving your argument is a lie, then your argument sucks and really isn't worth debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:19 AM
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Two major reasons: ⁠He might want a meaningful relationship. Not everyone wants to sleep with a variety of people, some people do want a committed relationship and love. ⁠When he gets older and wants to settle down, all the women that he considers high value will probably be with other guys who wanted to commit 5-10 years ago. Attractive, intelligent, kind women with no kids and very few sexual partners typically don’t stay single into their 30s. And the odds of successfully finding a woman 10+ …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:49 AM
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It feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:01 PM
7

Big booty doesn't always equal fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:58 PM
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This is true about everyone. You don't notice people who are unattractive to you, unless they're doing something to bother you. I can tell when men on here say things like 'most women go clubbing/have casual hookups/are thin and attractive.' That's because the only place they're talking to women is in clubs and bars, and they're only talking to women who are attractive and open to hooking up. They're not meeting nerdy, quiet, or chubby women who hang out at coffee shops or bookstores. Those wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:21 PM
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This has more to do with the fact that the traits are negative than the fact that they are feminine. No one, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, want a catty, whiny, entitled partner. Tom Holland is 5’8 and the fact he crossdressed as Rihanna didnt make him any less attractive. This doesn't say anything about women's views toward feminine men. He did it one time for a television performance. If a woman is with a guy who dresses as a woman for Halloween, or some other one-off occasion for…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:10 PM
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That’s really not the case. I think you’re really underestimating the percentage of women who are not having sex at all, or have only ever been with one or two boyfriends. A lot of women don’t go to bars or clubs, and don’t do Tinder hookups. It’s just that you don’t interact with these women, so you forget they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:56 AM
1

Do you honestly think that the majority of women are regularly having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:27 AM
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According to friends of mine who have ONS, it's still the same these days. Most men don't give a shit if a woman enjoys sex if he's not in a committed relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:58 PM
1

While true, someone who identifies as polyamorous is way more likely to have had casual sex than someone who identifies as monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:32 PM
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Assume a woman is receptive to hooking up under certain circumstances. She wants to know more about the guy than simply 'does he want to hook up?' She's going to want, at the very least, a few minutes of conversation to ensure that he's not mentally unstable or violent. It's also a case of basic human politeness. It's considered rude to ask for sex in your very first sentence talking to someone, so someone who does that is probably someone who is socially inept in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:42 PM
2

Poly people are a small minority of the population. The majority of atheists are monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:38 PM
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But the women who regularly have casual sex are in the minority, which is different than doing it once or twice. Not to mention, there are a lot of women who just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:35 PM
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Most women do like sex though. Most like sex with someone they have strong feelings for, rather than casual sex, but women who don't like sex at all are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:31 PM
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How many hours a week do you think women spend listening to men talk about stupid shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:54 PM
1

Most men prefer a partner who is at least somewhat feminine. They like her to have similar hobbies, but they still want her to be somewhat feminine, at least in her appearance. How many men do you think want an SO who looks like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:50 PM
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A guy who doesn't think feminine women are worthy of respect isn't a guy worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:44 PM
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That has less to do with them not being like all other women, and more to do with the fact that most people want to be with someone with similar interests, and the more involved they are in their hobby, the more they want their partner to share that. For example, if you're a baseball fan, you have season tickets to your favourite team, and you go to at least one game a week, it's going to be important to you that your partner at least moderately enjoys baseball, otherwise it will lead to conflic…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:42 PM
3

A lot of female gamers are super feminine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:20 PM
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If you've received a general message of rejection from other women Most of these women were rejected from other women because they either have a hostile attitude toward any woman who isn't a tomboy, or they are just socially awkward and weird but men give them attention because they want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:07 PM
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NLOGs put down women who are traditionally feminine, and are not nearly as special as they think they are. You're not a special woman because you play video games, for example. Lots of women play video games, it's not an incredibly rare trait in a woman. And being a hardcore gamer doesn't mean you're not traditionally feminine in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:05 PM
3

I've never met a dog that didn't have a funky smell, I can't imagine sleeping in a bed that smelled like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:00 PM
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Girl doesn't want my dog on the bed (sorry bitch, GTFO) I mean, it's your house and your choice, but not wanting dogs in the bed is incredibly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:58 PM
1

A razor, deodorant, toothbrush, clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:57 PM
1

No, I wouldn't have sex unless I were in a committed relationship, I wouldn't do that with someone I were casually dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:56 PM
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No, I'm strictly monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:52 PM
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Expectation of sex is not consent. You can go home with a guy, change your mind, and leave. If you tell him to stop, then he needs to stop, he can't say 'no, you came back to my place so you've already consented'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:04 AM
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Because I have a slight preference for taller guys, so all things being equal I’d choose the taller one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:06 PM
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It’s telling that women believe doing their hair and makeup is some insane hardship that entitles them to date 9-10 Chad’s. Attractive women who spend a lot of time on their hair and makeup do date 9-10 Chads. And I had professional contouring done once by a friend of a friend who works in Hollywood. I’m fairly attractive but have a very large nose. He made my nose look tiny, and I got more attention from guys than I usually do. But had I decided to trick some guy into thinking that’s what I loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 10:55 PM
1

As a lifelong partner, the fat funny girl. Most people don't want to spend the next 50 years spending most of their non-working hours with someone they can't stand to have a conversation with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:48 PM
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JFC women actually comparing “frizzy hair and makeup” to being a short guy with no jawline? I clearly said, a woman with no jawline, a huge crooked nose, and thinning hair. No amount of contouring or personal style is going to fix that, and she's not going to be seen as anything higher than a 5, a 6 if she gets her hair and makeup done professionally every day. Doing hair and make up is not an accomplishment nor a hardship. It can literally be done in a matter of hours. It's a hardship if you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:46 PM
2

5'2" would be too short for me. A woman around 5' tall might not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:41 PM
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Is height the most important attribute for male attractiveness? It's definitely not the most important. Does it make a difference if a man is 5'9" or 6'2"...? Both are taller than me, so it doesn't make a huge difference. If they were identical in every way, I'd choose the 6'2" guy. In your opinion what is better: being 6'2" with a mediocre face or being 5'9" with a highly attractive mannequin face? Definitely the 5'9" guy. Facial structure matters way more to me than height. men who claimed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:34 PM
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Do you honestly want to be in a LTR with someone who is attractive, but is boring, unintellligent, and has no sense of humour?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:21 PM
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That’s not even mentioning the immutable traits like height, hair, dick size, nose, jaw etc Other than dick size, all of these are immutable traits that women have as well. A short woman with thin, frizzy hair, a huge crooked nose, and a weak jaw is not going to be seen as attractive, no matter how she dresses or does her makeup. And all the things you mentioned would cost hundreds of dollars. Makeup runs out, hair grows. These are recurring expenses for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:20 PM
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No woman will ever admit that she wants a fine looking chad to have sex with and treat her like shit ( but she loves it ) when she's horny and a nice guy who will treat her well when she's ready to settle. Most women want a fine looking Chad who treats her well, and wants to settle down with him and have regular sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:13 PM
0

I'm American and lost my virginity at 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:04 PM
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Alternatively, there should be no problem from women when men drop them for "taking something off the table that they offered to other men". I would consider it a red flag. You have the right to break up with someone for whatever reason you want. At the same time, it's perfectly valid for someone to do something a few times, decide it's not for them, and take it off the table. Anal sex can be very painful for women. If a woman hates it, she's not required to put herself through pain with every n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:01 PM
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25 is old to be a virgin. That doesn't mean that 25 year olds are old people, but considering that in the US, the average person loses their virginity at 17, a 25 year old virgin is definitely way older than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:58 PM
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I was referring more to the hairstyle. A lot of men would find a woman within his preferred age range attractive if they had one of these hairstyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:49 PM
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That's up to the individual couple to decide. In my marriage, we don't have close friends of the opposite sex. My reason: Any close straight male friend I've ever had eventually tried to turn it into something more. It's not worth the drama. His reason: He's slept with most of his friends at least once (long before we started dating). I don't mind if he talks to them on social media and stuff, but given their history, I would not be okay with him going out one-on-one with his female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:47 PM
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A lot of men would disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:41 PM
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Your opinion is definitely in the minority. Most men would find these women attractive, so a woman looking to meet a guy isn't going to not cut her hair because a small percentage of men won't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:40 PM
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A lot of it has to do with your natural features to begin with. A smaller woman with a smaller head and more delicate facial features will look different with short hair than a tall, larger woman with stronger features.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:29 PM
1

There are a lot of people into kinky sex who hate the BDSM community, and are strictly monogamous. In fact, they're probably the majority of kinky people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:11 PM
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leftist nuttery You live in a very liberal area of the country, and you're meeting women who are into BDSM, a demographic that already leans liberal. I think your politics are off-putting to these women. They consider you attractive enough to sleep with, but they don't feel like listening to you bitch about their political views every day for the next 50 years, so you're not LTR-material to them. Because you have strong political views, you're better off actually trying to meet right-leaning wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:08 PM
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I'm not telling you to change what you enjoy doing, but most women don't find motorcycles or guns that interesting, and want an SO they can share some hobbies with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:57 PM
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Most women on FDS list specific traits to look for in a man who will be pleasant to cohabitate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:53 PM
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Not all Chads are unintelligent. There's no reason a guy can't be tall, handsome, physically fit, and intelligent, kind, and funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:49 PM
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I’m the opposite, I think the second one looks more feminine, and that’s a fairly masculine cut. In the ponytail picture though, that’s basically the ponytail that long haired men wear. It’s not styled or curled or anything, it’s just utilitarian. And most short haircuts are voluptuous. In fact, it’s a lot easier to style your hair to appear more voluptuous and full if it’s short, since long hair weighs it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 03:59 PM
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My point is, a lot of women with long hair just have it pulled back every day and it’s not styled. To me, that’s less feminine than a styled, attractive short haircut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 03:09 PM
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Not necessarily. I’d argue that a short, layered haircut that’s been styled is more feminine than long one-length hair pulled back in a ponytail.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:24 PM
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The restaurant owner doesn’t care about gender roles, they just want to get paid. She leaves, they’re going to pressure the guy to pay the bill. If a guy leaves a woman with the entire bill, same thing, they’ll look to her to pay. Most dates are initiated by men, and if you ask someone out you should be prepared to pay. If the woman asks a guy out then skips out on the bill, then that’s dining and dashing, which becomes a legal matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 02:53 AM
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The vast majority of men do not work in jobs that are they labour intensive. The majority of Americans are white-collar workers, and among blue collar workers, the majority do retail, food service, or fast food. My statement was referring to the vast majority of people in society, not people who work in the most dangerous professions. That being said, if my husband had a career that was so labour intensive that he was too exhausted to do any household work or childcare, I would opt not to have k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:25 AM
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Short hair is feminine if you get a feminine haircut and properly style it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:22 PM
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My cousin's SO tried doing part time work after she had a baby. It wasn't really practical though. They still had to send their son to daycare on the days she works, but because she was part-time, she didn't get any benefits, and she wasn't eligible for any promotions. She ended up going back to full time because it wasn't financially worth it to work just part time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:09 PM
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It's not even about assertiveness, it's more about social awkwardness. Refusing to pay for your half makes you appear broke, and being broke is seen as shameful. Not to mention, if she absolutely refuses to pay, 99% of the time she can just leave without paying and the restaurant will write it off as a loss if the guy refuses to pay for her half, but she can't really return to that restaurant again if that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:43 PM
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That's impossible on Tinder, unless the conversation went like this: Guy: Hey, what are you up to tonight? Girl: Not much, I'm just at Purple Pill Pub having a drink, you? Guy: What a coincidence, so am I! Then they look up at their phones, wave to each other, and sit down together for a meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:35 PM
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Using the word consent in that context comes off as autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:29 PM
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Most women aren't going to tell the guy that she assumed he was going to pay, they just won't go out with him again. The only way I could see someone doing this is if the guy picked the restaurant and it's so expensive that she literally cannot afford to pay the bill and still cover her rent/utilities that month. Most women will just pay their half, and if they are miffed that the guy didn't pay, they just won't go out with him again. going out on a Tinder date, first date; they decided to go ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:25 PM
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I was referring more to a couple where both people work full time. It's very common for both people to come home from work, and the mother has to make dinner and bathe the kids while the husband unwinds from work playing video games or watching TV. Also, very few women just leave a guy one day without warning. There are usually a ton of warning signs, as in, the woman literally tells the guy 'I find your behaviour exhausting and you need to step up,' or 'I'm not happy in this marriage, we should…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:18 PM
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OP set the guideline of short as 'shorter than shoulder length', so basically, chin length and shorter. Most people define short/long as above or below the shoulders. When most people talk about short hair on women, they're talking about something like this or this. That being said, even a super short haircut such as this one is not an absolute dealbreaker to most men who would otherwise find her attractive. At the very least, a lot would try to find out if it's a temporary look, or if her hair …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:12 PM
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That's my point. Women aren't being submissive to him because that's their kink. They women who hang out with him and put up with his bullshit do so because that's basically their job, that's how they make a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:53 PM
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She might just not be into you. You might be objectively more attractive than her, but if you're not her type, then she's not going to be into you. It's also possible she's either gay or asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:42 PM
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If a man doesn't earn enough to allow his wife to not work, then he should expect to do half the housework. I don't care whose fault it is that he doesn't earn enough, whether it's Obama/Trump/immigrants/feminists/China/whatever, he can't expect a woman who is going to be traditional and take care of all childcare and household duties if he also expects her to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:38 PM
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Most men do not do an equal amount of parenting during their marriage. Even in couples where both parties work full time, it's usually the mother who does the majority of the childcare when she gets home from work. A guy who expects his wife to do most of the childcare should not expect to get equal custody when she leaves him for being a lazy ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:32 PM
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Never heard anyone advocating that men always deserve equal custody, strawman fallacy. A lot of MRAs lobby for equal custody to be the standard. The problem with that is, for most married/cohabitating parents, the mother does the majority of the childcare. Someone who does not do an equal amount of childcare during their marriage should not expect equal custody in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:22 PM
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I agree, but I would say the number of men who love short hair (as in, it's a very strong preference) is equal to the number of men who absolutely refuse to date a woman with short hair. The men who strongly prefer short hair would probably exclusively date short haired women if it wasn't so uncommon, but because the majority of women have long hair, it's hard to automatically reject all long haired women. Among the 80% who have a preference but neither is a deal breaker, the majority do prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:52 PM
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I would say less than 10% of men consider short hair an automatic turn off. For about another 10% of men, short hair is a turn on. That leaves 80% of men left who might have a preference one way or the other. Which goes back to my original point, if a woman wants to cut her hair, she's not going to worry about the 10% of men who will automatically turn her down over it. If a woman is in a relationship with a guy who prefers long hair, she might then be hesitant to cut it, but if you're not curre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:00 PM
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Most women who actually get a men's haircut, as opposed to a pixie or something, are gay and/or intentionally presenting as masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:41 PM
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Short hair =\= efficient. Unless you’re referring to very short butch styles, short hair requires a lot of time and effort to look good. Women don’t cut their hair short because they don’t want to make any effort, they do it because they like the look of short hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:13 PM
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I’ve had the same experience. I’ve been flirted with more when my hair is short compared to long. Short hair stands out since it’s a lot less common than long hair, so men notice short haired women more. And a few informal studies suggest that women with short hair get more messages on online dating sites than women with long hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:37 PM
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There’s a huge difference between short hair and no hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:34 PM
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They’re in the minority though. Not enough men hate short hair for women to be hesitant to cut their hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:33 PM
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They’re more visible if you have a super short haircut, one that can’t be styled at all, but if it’s long enough to style, you can do a lot to make it look fuller than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:32 PM
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I think attractive short haired women stand out more to men. It's a lot less common than long hair, so men are way more likely to notice a woman with short hair than long hair. There was also a journalist who created two identical Tinder profiles, one with short hair and one with a long wig (that looked realistic), and she got way more responses on the short hair profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:15 PM
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Eh still,he could fuck one without the cash,the man is ripped and has a steady supply of drugs A steady supply of drugs, to someone who is into drugs, is the same as having someone funding your lifestyle. If he worked a basic office job, making $40k a year and lived in a one bedroom apartment, do you think he would have dozens of women surrounding him, fucking him whenever he wants, obeying his every command?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:02 PM
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All women are submissive really,the cuntier she is to you,the less likely she is attracted to you. If she's super into you, she will do everything you ask with zero complaints. This is all bullshit. A lot of women would rather be single than be completely submissive to a guy and do everything he demands. Just take a look at Dan Bilzerian,sure he's a tradcon cuck,but he was women living and fucking him with no real complaints,they roll his weed,suck his dick and he pays for their lifestyle. He's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:59 PM
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Very dominant women who are not turned off by dominant men. Submissive women are better with average-dominance men, most would be uncomfortable with a very dominant man. And a woman who finds dominance unattractive isn't going to like a very dominant man, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:52 PM
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I mean, this is a very short haircut, definitely on the more extreme end of short hair on women, but still, it looks professional, and if she's otherwise attractive, her SO probably doesn't mind. Also, based on my experience with friends and coworkers, most women are not going to cut their hair this short if their SO hates short hair. This style requires a certain level of confidence, and women with this haircut tend to have a bolder sense of style. Guys who are attracted to traditional women or…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:49 PM
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I have short hair (not like a super short pixie, more like a long asymmetrical pixie/short asymmetrical bob), and I get flirted with more since I cut it than I did when it was long. Not to mention, my husband loves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:39 PM
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How does this woman's hair not look tidy? Regardless of whether or not you consider it attractive, it's a professional hairstyle, it's not messy or unkempt. it will deter all men, including their own Some men like or even prefer short hair on women, and some men don't care either way. Maybe this is her husband's/boyfriend's preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:06 PM
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Most women get a short haircut so that men will leave them the fuck alone. Very few short-haired women chose their haircut for this reason. Most women with short hair just like the look or wanted a change, there's no deeper meaning behind it. Your theory might be true for women in upper management, but overall, it's just a personal style choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:01 PM
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That's all a matter of personal opinion. A lot of guys like and/or prefer shorter hair on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:57 PM
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Some 20 year olds have poor hair. It's especially common with women who have PCOS or other hormonal disorders, it can make your hair very thin. A shorter haircut makes your hair look thicker, while growing it long will just look thin and stringy. Not to mention, some people are healthy and just have thin hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:55 PM
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Maybe it’s a social thing, but most people I know consider a bad boy to be someone who sleeps around, maybe parties a lot, not a gang member serving time for several felonies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:25 PM
1

How many women do you honestly think are sexually attracted to Trump? Not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:47 PM
1

Most women would find those bodies attractive on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:45 PM
1

That guy’s look is a complete turn off to me, I like masculine handsome men, not cavemen. K-Pop guys aren’t really my cup of tea either but I would choose a K-pop star over him. FWIW, I’m half white.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:41 PM
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That’s not what it says. It says: Do NOT encourage violence or abuse against XY individuals or them as a group. This violates Reddit's content policy and will give us a ban. Note: Criticizing men is 100% okay on this subreddit as well as femdom material that men are subhuman and need to be controlled by a matriarch ;) It says that femdom material promoting that idea is allowed, just like there are countless subreddits that promote the idea that patriarchal society is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:30 PM
1

A lot of women do give a fuck, especially ones who put a lot of effort into dressing well and looking good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:26 PM
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An attractive man not trying will not be noticed as attractive. He might be tall, fit, and have good facial features, but if he hasn’t shaved or cut his hair in a month, and his clothes are a size too big because his mom doesn’t know what size to buy him, and he smells a little because “deodorant is gay”, then he’s not going to be seen as a handsome guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:21 PM
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I don’t agree with everything on there, but I like it overall. It’s nice to see an actual feminist community that doesn’t make excuses for shitty men, and teaches women to get rid of the “always be polite” mindset and put safety first. For example, there was a huge thread on there a few weeks ago about Gavin de Becker and his philosophy on safety. He’s a security specialist who has done work with the CIA and similar organisations, and a major aspect of his advice is that women have no obligation…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:18 PM
2

I don’t mind, most Jews do have larger noses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:33 PM
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That depends on his body type, and whether by thin, you mean “not fat,” or “slim and works out.” About 60% of people, both genders, are overweight. But only about 25% of men under 40 are bald. Thin women can easily get a guy who isn’t bald, so unless the guy is exceptionally handsome or fit, expecting a woman who is thin and fit might be difficult. An average woman who isn’t fat but isn’t exactly thin is more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:33 PM
1

In my experience, most Chads do settle down earlier than average-looking guys who want to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:29 PM
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No one has to settle down if they don’t want to. But then don’t complain that it’s hard to find a good woman in your 30s. The more traditional women who don’t like casual sex and have been with very few or no guys, they are getting married in their mid-20s, they’re not going to be available by the time you’re ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:24 PM
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I wouldn’t do anything financial for a boyfriend, like help him pay off debt, or move to be closer to his new job. Those are marriage-only benefits, and even then not a guarantee. I also wouldn’t do unpaid labour in a house I wasn’t living in, things like cleaning or doing laundry. I’d make a one-time exception in extreme circumstances (serious illness, needs someone to water plants while he attends out of town funeral, etc).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/01/20 06:01 PM
3

If a woman in her 20s wants to settle down, unless she’s very religious looking for a similar partner, she has to go for an older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:43 PM
8

I’ve always had a rule that if a guy turns me down, that’s it. We can be friends but it’s not going to lead to a relationship. It’s different if he had a legitimate reason like “I’m way too busy with work to date”, or “someone close to me just died and I need some time,” but if he just wanted to see what his other options were, then I’m no longer an option. I can do better than being someone’s second choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:39 PM
6

Why are you automatically believing these guys? There are two sides to every story, and if every one of a guy’s exes are clingy, insecure, or otherwise problematic, then that says more about him than them. Were they all insecure because he repeatedly proved himself to be unfaithful, or regularly belittled them? Were they clingy or needy because he spent very little time with them and was an uninvolved partner? Or does he just have a thing for women with personality issues, because he thinks they…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:37 PM
4

A less attractive guy cannot reasonably expect a super attractive partner, unless he has some other feature, like six pack abs or model-tier facial features, to make up for it. Some women are fine with buzz cuts, a guy can always meet a woman who finds shaved heads or buzz cuts attractive, but he will have less options than a guy with hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:22 PM
3

For me and a lot of women, yes. It makes a guy look more handsome and youthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:19 PM
2

I find some Jewish guys attractive (I’m also Jewish), but I also find a lot of white men with stronger features very attractive, such as this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:14 PM
5

That actually is fairly normal. Some people go to college after the military, or working for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:09 AM
2

This hasn’t been my experience. I was never into dating. I’m attractive and moderately outgoing, but it just never worked out for me. I met my husband online as a friend and we instantly fell for each other, we just happened to live thousands of miles apart. I wasn’t going to leave a decent guy just so I could be with a loser in closer geographic proximity to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:37 AM
2

It works for long distance couples. My husband and I got married before we could legally live together (we met online, we are from different countries and had to sort out immigration stuff), and being able to FaceTime every night made the relationship feel more normal, since we only got to see each other for visits once every 6 months or so. It was never about spying or making sure he wasn’t cheating, I wouldn’t have married him if that was a concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:35 AM
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I mean, someone moaning when they like something is a form of communication. That’s telling someone what you like. If someone tells me a joke that I liked, I laugh. I don’t say “that was funny. Tell another joke like that one.” Laughing is how I indicate that I liked the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:28 AM
2

I don’t find that guy’s features attractive at all. I’m into stronger features (larger nose, strong jawline), delicate features aren’t my thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:24 AM
2

It takes them down a few points. That doesn’t mean they’re completely unable to find a partner though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:22 AM
2

It’s unattractive to me (F26). Mild thinning or a receding hairline isn’t a big deal, but actually being bald is a huge turn off. Shaved heads are also a turn off for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:17 AM
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A man in his late 20s or early 30s who is actually seeking out high school students is creepy. If a 30 year old college freshman meets an 18 year old in his class, they start hanging out, and it leads to something, no big deal. But a 30 year old and a high schooler probably have nothing in common. I find it odd that you don’t think an 18 year old can be a feminist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:10 AM
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Some men don't consider slightly chubby bodies unattractive though. For example, a lot of guys would consider this woman attractive, or would at least consider her more attractive than a slim woman with a below average face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:26 PM
3

Assuming the woman is just chubby or overweight and not actually obese, most men would agree, especially for long-term relationships. Not only that, there are guys who prefer thicker/chubbier women, so a bigger woman with an attractive face is going to be his type. Very few men have a preference for unattractive facial features.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:18 PM
1

It's not healthy for the offspring, and high rates of incest/inbreeding lead to a less healthy and less intelligent society. When someone's choices lead to a disabled child being born, who will have a lower quality of life and possibly be a burden on society, people aren't going to say 'good for you'. Humans are supposed to be automatically turned off by close relatives, since that's what's best for the continuation of our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 08:59 PM
0

Biological sex isn't a social construct. Gender is, but I choose to have a traditionally feminine appearance. It's my right to wear lacy lingerie every day, just like it's another woman's right to wear boxer briefs and a sports bra.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 10:23 PM
4

You said that you don't like to spend any money on a first date. I pointed out how that is nearly impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 09:05 PM
2

They’re not. The funny thing is though, the type of woman that could actually be a good spouse to a red pill guy is the type of woman a red pill guy would never show any interest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 08:35 PM
7

If a guy can’t even afford to meet up for coffee and spend $3 or so on his own drink, then he’s not someone I want to go out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 08:29 PM
1

That’s a tradition, not a sexual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:49 AM
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I’ve read his writings. Most sects of Judaism prioritise issues other than sexual morality. The only thing we aren’t supposed to do are threesomes/open marriages. Other than that, whatever a married couple wants to do is valid. And according to the Talmud, the husband has an obligation to ensure his wife has an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:48 AM
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No, you only attract women who have no other skills. Women who can afford to be selective aren’t going to want to be with an asshole like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:36 AM
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My answer, as a Jewish feminist: Judaism can not be compared to most other religions, at least not Christianity and Islam. Obsessions over sexual activity and gender roles aren’t nearly as much of a major issue in Judaism. It’s more likely that a religious Jewish women would identify as a feminist than a religious Christian woman, since our religion isn’t necessarily incompatible with feminism. Not only that, you’re considered Jewish whether you are religious or not. An atheist Jew is called a J…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:28 AM
1

Why “ew”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:24 AM
1

Men and women have certain biological differences, but that’s not the point. I do not want to present as masculine. I wear what makes me feel good, and presenting as a man wouldn’t make me feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:14 PM
1

Yes, I do mind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:01 PM
2

Because I’m a woman, and I’m feminine. I don’t want to have a masculine or androgynous appearance. I wouldn’t feel like myself wearing underwear that looks just like men’s boxer briefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:01 PM
5

Those don’t look comfortable to me, I don’t like the elastic waistband. Not only that, I don’t want to look like a man, and those look very masculine to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:33 PM
0

Because pantie lines are awkward. I don’t want a guy looking at my ass and imagining what my underwear looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:51 PM
1

Sure, but no one is obligated to sleep with you if they find you boorish.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:14 AM
2

If a guy tells me that another woman is his second choice, it’s fair game for me to tell her. I’d tell her nicely, something like “he’s a real creep, I’d be careful if I were you.” She deserves to know if a guy is using her as a second choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:08 AM
5

I agree. I love video games so I personally wouldn’t mind being proposed to in this way (as long as I was also getting a ring).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/19 06:41 PM
1

I don’t unless I’m genuinely unwell. We both have high libidos so not being in the mood doesn’t really happen with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:27 PM
2

Outside of sex, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:20 PM
3

Almost everyone has to be submissive to a company in order to earn a living. That doesn’t mean they want to voluntarily be submissive to their partner. Most men are submissive to a corporation, but would recoil at the thought of being submissive to their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:16 PM
4

I’m married, and this is how we feel about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:04 PM
5

Guys who date gold diggers do so because they want a woman who is far more attractive than themselves, and who is more likely to be subservient and more tolerant of their bullshit. Instead of putting the blame on gold diggers, encourage men to date intelligent and ambitious women with similar hobbies and interests, and to be realistic about what “league” of women will be into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:38 AM
1

And most of the times it's charm. Look at Danny Devito. All charm and smalls and huggy feelings. He seems like an incredibly nice guy and someone I’d be great friends with, but I find him very unattractive physically and have no desire to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:34 AM
3

I mean; that’s realistic at least. If someone is out of shape, they don’t get to demand a guy with a six-pack. I can respect someone saying like dad bods because they’re a little out of shape as well. Maybe the fat guys with a “no fat chicks pls” rule should take a hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:32 AM
3

That’s not true. When you’re married (and in a good marriage), your SO is your ideal partner in every way. They’re a perfect 10/10 for you, exactly your type. And you’re in love with them and their personality, and have a strong connection and a strong sexual attraction and compatibility. You’re not going to lose interest because they’re slightly overweight. If they become obese or completely neglect their looks, then the physical attraction will wane. But a few extra pounds aren’t going to caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:30 AM
1

It’s certainly not my preference. I wouldn’t leave a man I was married to or in a committed relationship with over it as long as I was still attracted to him overall (handsome face, good hair, dresses well), but I wouldn’t start dating a guy who had one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:20 AM
1

It’s not just homeless women or even the very poor. Some women live hundreds of miles from the nearest abortion clinic. Many states have a 24-hour waiting period. And the procedure costs hundreds of dollars. Between missing two-three days of work, transportation, a hotel, and the procedure itself, you’re easily looking at close to $1000. And if you don’t come up with that money in time, the abortion is more expensive, and possibly not even available in your state anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:18 AM
1

Abortion access is incredibly limited in many parts of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:15 AM
4

Another thing to add to this, poorer people tend to have smaller homes (they don’t have spare closets or spare rooms/garages to store random stuff in), and there’s more of a sense of needing to save something in case you need it, since when the day comes that you need it, you might not have enough money to replace at that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:14 AM
2

That’s because people are more likely to try something once if you’re respectful about it rather than being pushy or a whiny nag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:07 AM
0

It’s mostly bullshit. Women are allowed to decide they don’t like something. Just because you did something sexually with one person doesn’t mean another partner is entitled to the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:05 AM
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I have nothing against Kim Kardashian. A sex tape that she made got leaked, and she used it to her advantage instead of letting men decide the narrative.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/19 08:42 PM
1

I don't think that having hair is an unrealistic standard for someone under 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 08:23 PM
1

Right leaning people value job security just as much. Especially for someone who is married, knowing that you have a guaranteed middle class, white collar job for life is a pretty good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 01:17 PM
0

A small percentage of women prefer shaved heads. And quite a few, maybe even half, are fine with a shaved head, it’s not a turn off and they have no strong preferences on the matter. That being said, if a guy doesn’t want to have his options limited due to baldness, and Rogaine doesn’t work for his hair loss, a hair piece is an affordable option for most men, and for those who can afford it, there are hair transplants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:35 PM
3

How do you expect me to take any women issue seriously Have you considered that maybe, the women listening to music like this aren’t the same women who are actively feminist and discussing women’s issues online? Or that some people who listen to music don’t pay much attention to the lyrics?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:15 PM
1

No, but if I ask a guy if he wants to go on a date and he just wants sex, that’s not going to happen. Why would I be intimate with someone who won’t even casually hang out with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:02 AM
2

Yes, we share a bank account so he’s aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:42 AM
0

I don’t have any desire to experience casual sex. Being in a committed relationship means you’re with someone you have feelings for, and you’re comfortable with them and trust them. Being intimate with a stranger doesn’t appeal to me. Not to mention, sex gets way better as a relationship progresses, and you have sex more and more. Having casual sex seems mediocre at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:41 AM
1

I’ve asked him, and he prefers makeup to no makeup. He also prefers more natural makeup (and I’m into bolder makeup) but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:29 AM
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Because if you’re looking for a relationship and someone doesn’t want that, that’s rejection. A guy wanting to sleep with me means nothing, since I’ve never been into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:28 AM
0

My husband does notice, he prefers when my hair and makeup are done. That being said, I do that stuff for myself, not other women or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:18 AM
0

I don't think that most guys will turn down a hot woman because of her race. Some will. But I'd say they're the minority. Sure they might not wanna be seen in public with the woman, but they'll still bang her. I’m non-white, and above-average attractiveness. I’ve met a lot of white guys who wouldn’t consider dating me by wanted to sleep with me. I don’t do casual sex, so not being willing to seen in public with me counts as a rejection in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:16 AM
0

When people talk about average attractiveness, they’re usually talking about median, not mean. Or more accurately, expected median. When someone says “80% of men are below average,” that’s a polite way of saying “80% of men are unattractive.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:25 AM
1

Only about 25% of 30 year olds have thinning hair. Even with thinning hair you can hide the effects with a decent haircut. Also, Rogaine works. If you’re 30 and completely bald or close to it, then either date women who are into bald guys (some women are fine with shaved heads), or lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:57 PM
3

A lot of people (both genders) turn down people based on race. A lot of guys will claim their only requirement is “don’t be fat,” but when they’re actually asked out by a woman with an ugly face, they’re not into her either. Which is valid, but being attractive isn’t a choice for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:53 PM
2

Because I’m allowed to spend my earnings on myself and things that I like. I like looking good. I’m not going to go without makeup or getting my hair done so I can spend money on an SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:46 PM
2

being attracted roided out manjaws with male shoulders and musculature is homosexual Some women naturally have a stronger jawline and broad shoulders, and some women bulk up when they work out (instead of getting super slim). It's fine if you consider that unattractive, but that doesn't mean she's unnatural or using steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 09:05 PM
6

If you mean things like make up and hair, it's because I think that it's fake. It would feel like I was tricking my man about my real looks. If a guy feels tricked because he believed I actually have bright red lips or dark lined eyes, then he's too unintelligent for me to be in a relationship with anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:59 PM
4

Most men with attractive girlfriends and wives still lust after other women. Or you could just look that way yourself Certain aspects of your appearance, such as height, bone structure, facial features, and skin colour are unchangeable without very intense, painful, and expensive surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:57 PM
6

Not really. Most unattractive men could become average overnight just by dressing better, getting a decent haircut, and shaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:44 PM
8

women literally rated 80% of men as below average attractiveness If average means 'has a decent haircut, showers and wears deodorant daily, shaves, and wears clean clothes that fit properly', then yes, 80% of men are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:43 PM
2

Women look down on blue collar jobs even though you can earn six figures from some of them. To be fair, a lot of blue collar workers look down on white collar workers, it goes both ways. A lot of people prefer dating someone who sees eye-to-eye with them on work related issues. A blue collar worker doesn't want a partner who sees themselves as more intelligent or intellectual, a white collar worker doesn't want a partner who sees their job as easy, cushy, or lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:41 PM
5

Did you not see how women were laughing at Aquaman for not looking like he's 100% shredded when he's not working? I'm not saying it's right, but that's basically the norm for how men act toward famous women's bodies. The difference is, men do it so often, no one feels the need to write a whole article about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:32 PM
4

Long untrimmed beards are rarely hygienic. A lot of guys with unkempt beards grew them because they were too lazy to shave, and someone too lazy to shave is likely also not inclined to clean food and drool out of their beard and wash it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:42 AM
4

Are you saying men should get a skincare routine? It's blowing my mind a little that women would even want a dude who fussed about his skin in the way women do. Men have skin too. At the very least, use a face wash. But if you need moisturiser or something, use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:40 AM
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Nothing, I wash my face in the shower too. It’s not the best idea to use body soap on your face though. It’s not dirty, just not great for your skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:34 AM
3

Absolutely. Most men shower and brush their teeth, but things like cleaning your nails, removing visible ear wax, wearing deodorant, and washing their face and hair are kind of seen as optional to a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:29 AM
1

It was just a random photo, I wanted to find a group of people, not all the same race, but not a stock photo or modelling shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:25 AM
7

She's not wrong. If you want an attractive girlfriend, either be attractive, or make enough money to appeal to gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:58 PM
2

There's a difference between mocking someone for their facial features or physical traits, and mocking someone for how they style their hair, makeup, or what they wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:54 PM
5

I can tell that a lot of people in this thread don't really understand what average means. Most people are still thinking of 'Hollywood average', not real life average. Here's a random photo of a group of people at a workplace, not models. Most of these people are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:52 PM
6

No, it's not a privilege. If I don't find a guy attractive, I don't have to feel grateful that he wants to sleep with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:41 PM
6

The guy hurt you by lashing out, you hurt him by rejecting him. He was just making things equal. Only men who feel entitled to go out with a woman feel that way. Rejecting someone isn't a negative action, it's neutral. If someone feels hurt by a rejection, that's their issue to sort out. Just like an employer isn't an asshole for not hiring you just because you walked in and asked for a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:30 PM
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Women do this shit too when men "beneath" them dare to approach. But several men above you have stated that this is how men interact with each other, and that it should be expected. So why do men act shocked when women rudely or coldly reject them? Especially since most women don't rudely reject a guy unless he's disrespectful while asking her out or doesn't accept the first polite rejection. Also, someone rejecting you without apologising or giving a reason isn't rude or cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:23 PM
1

The point is, most men find completely unshaven body hair unattractive. Even if a woman wasn’t anti-shaving, but due to a medical condition, was unable to shave/wax/laser, a lot of men would not want to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:18 AM
1

No, I’m talking about a thin woman who has an average face but refuses to shave/wax/laser. Most men wouldn’t be okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 12:12 AM
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Most women aren’t ruling guys out for being under 6’ tall. Most women’s only requirement is that the guy is taller than her. And I was talking about race, not hair colour. I can dye my hair any colour in the rainbow but I’m still going to be the same race. Most women can’t afford breast implants and most insurances don’t cover them. Not to mention, even if you do save for them, most women can’t afford to take weeks off of work to heal. But yes, that’s changeable. You can also get surgery to beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:12 PM
1

Two-day stubble isn’t what I mean by unshaven. I’m thinking more along the lines of “my mom forgot to pick up razors when she went to the store so I’ll just shave next week.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:54 PM
1

Fair enough, but the rest can be changed (and hair pieces are an option for men). That being said, I see a lot of guys with buzz cuts who would be able to grow hair if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:53 PM
0

That's actually only 25 pounds overweight. 146 pounds on a 5'4" woman falls within the healthy range.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 06:50 PM
6

I'd say that most men look like shit. Not just not dateable, a lot of men look below average. Unshaven, ill-fitting clothes, dirty shoes, bald or have bad haircuts, smell bad, etc. All these things could be changed literally overnight if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 06:33 PM
12

A huge majority of women are gonna turn someone down for being the opposite race, or having a small dick, or not having a moderately attractive face, or not being tall enough. And a lot of men will turn down women based on race, having small boobs, not having an attractive face, or not being thin enough. You know what beauty standards men have? Don't be fat. That is literally it. Nothing about hips or boobs or thighs or any shit like women would let you believe. That's a blatant lie. Men turn do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 06:29 PM
7

Spending $100 on a first date for someone you met online is a lot. Most first dates I’ve been on were at Starbucks or something. It’s inexpensive so if it doesn’t go well, no financial loss, and you can stay for 30 minutes or 3 hours, depending on how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 04:28 PM
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Most people don’t know their body fat percentage. Not to mention, anyone can see the difference between 5’8” and 6’. Most people can’t tell the difference between 26% body fat and 30% body fat. Plus, it’s easy to look at a photo and know if they’re fat or not, but you can’t really tell if they’re tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 04:41 AM
1

I find 99% of men unattractive. I married someone within the 1% of men I do find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:06 PM
3

26 year old straight woman. I would not. I like men who have certain traits. Tall, very hairy chest, broad shoulders, very well endowed. I’ve met and worked with several trans men, and all of them (no offence to anyone) look like either very small effeminate men, or butch women. At my last job I worked with three trans men and I was taller and heavier than all of them (and I’m neither obese nor excessively tall). I like being with a guy who is taller, larger, and stronger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:03 PM
3

Probably about 1-2%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:19 PM
3

For one thing, I was 22 when I met him, so expecting a guy in his 20s to be a virgin was kind of unreasonable, especially since I wasn’t looking for a religious guy or someone who wanted to wait until marriage. I also didn’t want someone unattractive, awkward, or an incel. I also do like that he had sexual experience before me, because to be honest, he is really good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:42 AM
1

I’m very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:59 PM
6

Reason 3 is incredibly valid. If a woman approaches a guy, she’s treated as if she’s desperate, and a lot of guys won’t try as hard to impress her. And if she is forward with a guy and decides not to have sex with him, and he does assault her, a lot of people will accuse her of being a tease.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:56 PM
1

Three years, he’s always been faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:44 PM
1

Yes, I did. He had been with about 100 women before me (never married before), I was a virgin. I didn’t care about how many women he had slept with. What I care about is previous marriages and kids (I wouldn’t date a single dad or a divorced guy). And obviously no STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:42 PM
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If you like a guy and do something to please him, because you like him, and you aren't getting anything out of it, they call you a pick-me. You bought dinner? You gave him a blowjob and he didn't get you off? You cleaned his apartment? You're a pick-me. If you do all these things regularly, and don’t get anything out of the relationship, you are a pick-me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 11:33 PM
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In her case, he was her neighbour and they liked each other and started dating. They got married last year. In my case, we met online and were friends first (not on a dating site), and I didn’t know his age right away. I already liked him, and when his birthday came up and he told me how old he was (we weren’t dating at this point yet), I didn’t see it as a big deal. We’ve been married for three years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:18 PM
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This was not my experience in college. When we were both 22, I was dating a 29 year old, and my new friend was dating a 35 year old. I agree that 40 is definitely pushing it though for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 03:16 PM
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I know it’s nearly a decade. But my original point still stands, most people barely notice nor care. No one is looking at us when we are walking down the street and giving a second thought about our ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 02:39 AM
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A lot of men age badly. And those men aren’t attracting younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 03:50 AM
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I was 22 when I met my husband, he was 29 at the time. That’s not exactly a noticeable age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 03:47 AM
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People have different lifestyles though. For example, younger religious people tend to have some older friends, since some communities don’t have many young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 03:45 AM
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It all depends on your weight. If you’re an overweight guy, then expecting a woman under 150 pounds is an unrealistic standard. If you’re at a healthy weight, then it’s not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 01:10 PM
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Women who committed adultery, slept with multiple men, or even had sex outside of marriage were labelled antisocial and were often sent to work camps (where many were executed). Abortion, including self-induced abortions, were punishable by death. The Nazis also passed legislation forbidding women from wearing makeup or cutting their hair short. That's not really much of a stretch from laws in some third world countries that force women to cover their hair or otherwise dress modestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 10:14 PM
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Someone who hates women cannot be assimilated into western culture. Someone who holds those views would really struggle to even hold a job in most workplaces. Places that are extremely male dominated and conservative, the only place where their views wouldn't be much of an issue, are far less likely to hire Muslims. Not to mention, a lot of non-feminist men are going to be far less sympathetic toward anti-feminist Muslims or foreigners than anti-feminist Christians, atheists, or Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 10:04 PM
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There's a few things wrong with the premise of your question. Not all feminists are leftists or even liberal. There are many right wing feminists who support women's rights. Most right wing ideologies are compatible with at least some forms of feminism, and according to some right wing ideologies, all women should be feminists. Not all feminists hold liberal views on immigration. Some feminists oppose immigration from the third world specifically because of the views that many non-Western men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:57 PM
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He’s speaking German and the women are texting him in English. I don’t know what country he lives in so I can’t speak to the culture of his country. A lot of antisemites exist. There are many parts of the world, including enclaves in the Western world, where being openly antisemitic will not hurt you romantically. Only 4 women responded. I’m sure there are at least 4 Nazis in a 10-20 mile radius of you right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:31 AM
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That guy is more muscular than most men though. Bone density does play a small role, but only by a few pounds. That’s why doctors aren’t overly concerned if someone’s BMI is slightly over 25 but their body fat % is low and their blood pressure, cholesterol, and heart rate are in the healthy range.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:27 AM
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I mean, if someone says 'no guys under 5'9",' you're free to message her, but then you can't be surprised if she decides she's not into you after meeting up. When I was in college I met a guy on a campus Facebook page who had some pictures of himself both with and without a beard. I told him that I don't go out with guys with beards, he said the pictures with the beard were old pictures. I showed up for the date, he had a beard, I left.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:46 PM
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It's accurate for most men. Unless you're very muscular (in which case you know that you're fit already), it's accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:38 PM
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If you're not physically attractive, why do you feel entitled to date physically attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:34 PM
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Female Nazis exist. I don't find it hard to believe that a Nazi could make a Tinder profile and find 4 women who are sympathetic to those views who would respond to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:29 PM
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Most women wouldn't date a guy who was only 5' tall. That's shorter than most women, by several inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:22 PM
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why don't women themselves who claim to genuinely not care about height, why is this never revealed on dating profiles? Because people don't list non-preferences. If it's something you don't care about, then you don't care enough to list it. Not to mention, a woman might list that, thinking she's fine dating a guy in the 5'4" range, and end up getting messages from guys more in the 3'8" range, and having to have a very awkward conversation letting them know that when she said she didn't care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:18 PM
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Because that's wasting your time and hers. If you don't have a college degree, and you apply to a job listing that indicates that they require a candidate with a college degree, that's not assertive, persistent, or eager, that's called being a pain in the ass. It's not only a waste of your time, but it's a waste of the HR rep's time who has to sort through applications and read through yours just to find out you're not qualified. If a woman outright says that she has a height preference, and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:16 PM
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Insecurity is a turn off. No one wants to be with someone who needs constant reassurance that you're not put off by a physical feature of theirs. Timidity isn't as much a turn off, as it's something that holds people back from meeting someone in the first place. A lot of women are fine making the first move, but if they approach a guy and he's too timid to engage in much of a conversation, she's going to assume he's not interested and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:11 PM
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Yet, a man's work history, his social life, his finances, his work ethic, lifestyle and physical health is upto immense scrutiny. These are not things that most women care about. Most women expect a guy to not be fat or antisocial, and to be gainfully employed. Women who are very fit often want a man who is similarly fitness-oriented, and women who are very wealthy often want someone who earn a salary similar to hers. Women who are very social want someone with a similar personality type. But so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 07:00 PM
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If I can discriminate based on the above, why not also promiscuity? No one is saying you can't. However, nothing is stopping anyone else from discriminating based on your standards. Why is it so wrong for men fo have standards? If you're not a virgin, then expecting potential partners to be virgins is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 04:46 PM
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I don’t mind short hair (like an inch or so) on a guy, and long hair is actually a turn off. But I’m not into the buzzed look at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:01 PM
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For me, the traits that make me want to sleep with a man are almost identical with the traits that make me want to marry him. That being said: Must be taller than me. I’m 5’6”, I don’t think that’s being too picky. Be clean shaven or have stubble. I’m not into facial hair of any kind. Not be bald. That includes buzz cuts and shaved heads. Thinning hair or receding hairlines aren’t a dealbreaker. Either a muscular or average build. I’m not into super skinny guys, or fat guys. Not be hairless, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 11:25 PM
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places where conversation was made like the market, town square, and the public forum are now all on the internet now These are all places that are publicly owned. Public parks, open outdoor markets, and sidewalks still exist, and you have absolute rights to freedom of speech there, because they are publicly owned and your tax dollars pay for their maintenance. Reddit is more comparable to a shopping mall or something. A shopping mall, while very large, is still privately owned, and shopping mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:57 PM
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We just like equality. There was a link on the sidebar of TRP claiming that women have the mental capacity of teenagers. That's not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:51 PM
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The problem with forcing companies to respect free speech is that it prevents a private business from deciding what content they want to host. A vegan restaurant should have the right to ask a customer to leave if they pull out a lunchbox and start eating a steak, annoying other customers. If you go to a classical music concert and decide to start loudly rapping, the venue should have the right to ask you to be quiet or leave. If you go to a feminist book club meeting held in a privately-owned b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:50 PM
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If we do not demand that companies respect free speech then it hardly even exists. A company should not be forced to host content they do not want to host. They're paying to run the servers, so they should get the final say, not you, and not the government (barring extreme content such as child pornography).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:43 PM
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It's the equivalent of going to a black lives matter protest, and then saying the conversation should be about how there needs to be more acceptance of gay people. Gay black people exist. Having a black rights movement that discriminates against gay people isn't a good movement. A men's rights movement that ignores gay men is a straight men's rights movement, which is fine, but then call it what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:38 PM
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Frankly we're dealing with a War On Nerds TRP/Gamer Gate circles hate nerdy women, and to a lesser extent, nerdy minorities. To be honest, nerd culture is at least fairly mainstream these days. If you don't play any video games you are in the minority these days. The most popular show on TV until recently is part of the fantasy genre. The most popular films right now are superhero films (Avengers Endgame being the top grossing film of all time). No one is getting picked on for playing video game…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:33 PM
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My thoughts on the matter are the same as my thoughts on any subreddit getting quarantined or banned: Reddit is a private company, they are free to allow or disallow any content they want on their site, for a good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all. They don't have to be fair or unbiased in deciding which subreddits to ban. The site is free to use and costs you nothing, so you are not entitled to access any subreddit. If you don't like Reddit's policies, you are free to not use the site.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:21 PM
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If someone is a stay at home wife without kids, then I feel they should do nearly 100% if he housework, unless they are hurt or unwell. If someone is staying home and caring for young children, then they are ‘working’ quite a few hours already. I would argue that the split should be more like 75/25 in that case. It wouldn’t be fair for them to never get a day off while their spouse has two days off a week. If the wife I reluctant to be a stay at home mom but does so at the husband’s request, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:01 AM
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When a woman doesn't want to sleep with a guy, she's very upfront and honest about that. When a man wants to sleep with a woman but doesn't want a relationship, he's likely to play games and be manipulative. Most won't come right out and say 'I only want to sleep with you, it's never going to lead to a relationship.' Women also tend to be more take-charge in setting requirements, such as no sex for several dates, and blocking men who only want sex. That's not entitlement, since they aren't compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:52 AM
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You do if you've only ever made out with one person...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 04:16 PM
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A lot of people haven't had so many partners that they lose count. I mean, you easily know whether you've been with 3 people or 4 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 04:15 PM
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Do you count oral sex or strictly PIV? If you've fucked whores, do you add that to your number? Yes, since those both obviously count as sex. Especially the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 04:13 PM
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That's more due to having children than getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:25 PM
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This is not a law in the US. It is a policy at most companies though. Most offer bereavement time for immediate family, which doesn't include married partners. Also, the Family Medical Leave Act only applies to spouses, you cannot take an extended period of time off work for a boyfriend or girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:19 PM
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I'm opposed to it for the same reason @aggressive_beta gave. I don't consider it theft since the government has the right to implement a tax, but I don't like it. If I'm single and paying into Social Security (which is not optional), and I die unmarried, that money remains the government's. I don't have the option to leave that money to a relative of mine, or a charity I support. If I had that money in a private retirement fund and I die before retirement age, then I get to decide where that mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:16 PM
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They belive these kinds of things are petty issues. They usually do have a thicker skin than women. You must not spend much time on the internet. There are entire communities on this site alone dedicated to having small dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:24 PM
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A lot of feminists and other civil rights leaders have faced the consequences for their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:19 PM
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I don't take someone's beliefs seriously if they're not willing to publicly support them. I hold some controversial political opinions that I'm not getting into here since it's completely irrelevant to gender. I have no problem expressing them in public, and my friends and family know my views. If there were a rally in my city for a cause I supported, I'd go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:16 PM
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A lot of men don't feel they're experiencing problems, at least not problems that society can fix. Most bald men aren't going to start a social justice movement to combat baldness, they'll either live with it, or they'll do something to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:02 PM
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So your legal name is Super Stink? Your parents had a cruel sense of humour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:00 PM
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Some women are very unattractive. It really is true that ugly women are invisible to most people. A woman who is 300 pounds, hairy, has bad teeth, and wears a baggy polo shirt and jeans every day isn't going to be asked out. Some women are also loners, and don't put themselves in situations where they would be asked out. There are way more people than you think who go to work then go home and watch Netflix or play video games. Some even get their groceries delivered so they never have to leave t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:59 PM
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I have never seen a single one saying "this is what a REAL man looks like" with some overweight, hairy, balding shlubb on it. Plus sized (even obese) female models still have attractive faces, thick hair, makeup, and no body hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:16 AM
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Most women will prefer larger than average, but that doesn't mean they'll turn down any average sized guy. Lots of women posting "6 inches or GTFO". At least. And lots of men post 'no fat chicks.' Attractive people can afford to be pickier, and more vocally picky. According to your link, having a 6 inch penis puts you in the top 7% and a 7 inch penis puts you in the top 1%. If a woman doesn't have much trouble getting a 10/10 guy, why would she settle for someone with a small dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:10 AM
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Inb4 "go create it". 'Go create it' is a perfectly valid response to this complaint. Fat women were able to organise and create a fat acceptance movement that has actually been quite successful at spreading their message. And it has led to several major companies hiring more plus sized models, better selections in clothes for plus sized women, and men who are into heavier women not being as ashamed to admit it. No one is stopping fat men from doing the same. Or bald men, short men, or men with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:03 AM
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My husband doesn't want me to be friends with other men, and to be honest, I'm fine with that since pretty much all my close friends have always been women anyway. And he doesn't have any close friends who are women. To be honest, it works for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:33 AM
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Yeah. A guy would start hitting on me, I’d suggest a date that weekend, and it was more like “I’m not looking for a relationship, I was thinking we could just hook up. I’m not sure we’d be compatible.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:34 PM
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Female. Huge insult. I've met multiple guys who implied it and about half a dozen actually tell me this to my face. I did not sleep with any of them obviously. I'm an intelligent, funny, kind person. Why would I want to be with someone who doesn't appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:55 AM
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I think the argument only works if the 'alpha' guy is only slightly less attractive than the other guy. Guys who are actually 10/10 chads like TRP guys strive to be, don't need guides, websites, and books to help them pick up women. Women are coming to them. Their strategy is literally "leave the house".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:30 PM
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It's hard to compare men's looks to women's looks. Ugly women are judged a lot harder for being ugly than men, but can also do a lot more for their appearance than men can if they make an effort. Most ugly women will wear an attractive hairstyle, makeup, and fashionable clothes if they want to go out with more attractive men. You're only seeing these couples in public, so the woman looks like the more attractive one out of the two, but I'm sure that if you saw her without makeup you'd consider t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:22 PM
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I personally don't find him handsome, so if I were single I wouldn't be interested in him if he walked into a bar. I'd say hi and get a photo with him since I like him as an actor, but I'd choose the hot Instagram guy over him. That being said, he's allegedly slept with about 3000 women so clearly a lot would disagree. Then again, Dustin Diamond and Dennis Rodman also apparently slept with thousands of women, so I think some women will just sleep with any celebrity. I don't think men are that di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:07 PM
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Or, they're ugly as well and know that they're not getting a 10/10 guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:57 PM
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I’m not sure it’s women who are refusing to admit this. Also, there are women who will go out with ugly guys. Some of my friends are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:31 PM
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Is Leonardo DiCaprio an actor in this scenario, or a non-celebrity with his exact same looks and personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:17 PM
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I’m a woman, and this definitely happens. Some women don’t approach guys ever, but the ones who do will approach a handsome guy even if he seems kind of quiet. Personally, I’ve always had a very high standard for looks, but for charisma, my standard is basically “don’t be autistic.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:12 PM
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Back when I was single, I wouldn’t even waste my time talking to guys I found unattractive. Not because I’m a snob or anything, I just didn’t see the point in letting the guy flirt for a few minutes then call me a bitch when I let him know I’m not interested. He might be the most charismatic guy in the world, but if women don’t think he’s handsome, he’s not going to get to the ‘game’ stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:08 PM
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And I don’t blame them. If a woman is earning a good income, I don’t see anything wrong with her expecting the guy to also earn a reasonably good income. I also don’t see anything wrong with someone without kids not wanting someone with child support obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 09:39 PM
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There are a lot of career women btw -- often very attractive, even for being older -- who tend to wait till their 30s also. This is true. But it’s also true that they end to marry a guy who is also career-oriented, and doesn’t have any of the baggage I mentioned. Attractive women in their 30s aren’t dating bitter divorced dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:37 PM
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The average age that a man marries is like 32 or 33 years old That’s an average though. Most people who are exceptionally attractive, in terms of looks and personality, are married before 33. If a woman is attractive, intelligent and nice, not interested in partying or casual sex, an wants to get married, she’s unlikely to still be single at 33. She’s also likely to marry a man her age or a few years older. Women in their early 20s aren’t marrying men in their 30s unless the guy is exceptionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:04 PM
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There's a huge difference between buying a naughty magazine once or twice a month, and having free porn on demand 24/7. There's also a huge difference between looking at nude women in suggestive poses, and watching a woman get fucked by 10 guys and an octopus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:41 PM
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When women get older, they become less sexually attractive, and they also accumulate baggage. You don't think older men come with baggage as well? Once a guy is in his 30s, if he's single, he falls into one of three categories: Divorced and bitter. Probably has kids, which means you'll end up spending every weekend for the next 10 or 15 years with a kid you can't stand. Also, be prepared to listen to a lot of rants about how marriage is unfair to men, child support sucks, women are all cheaters,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:39 PM
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I’m a ‘career woman’ with no desire to ever be a housewife, and I completely disagree with the premise that I’m not as devoted to my husband as a housewife is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:57 AM
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Have you considered that maybe she would fuck you more if you did more around the house? All the guys I know who complain about not having enough sex are the ones who expect their wives to do the vast majority of household chores and childcare, and their wives also have full time jobs. Their wives are exhausted, so they’re not in the mood for sex after not having a moment to themselves. They want to read a book or play on their phones and have a few quiet minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:51 AM
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I do, I actually enjoy cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:47 AM
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Maybe so, but I don’t consider Trump to be Hitler either. That being said, there’s a difference between his supporters, who go out of their way to go listen to a bigoted blowhole rant for an hour and chant along with him, and people who go to a celebrity talk show, not expecting a conversation about cutting guy’s dicks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:23 AM
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Clapping to an in-poor taste joke on a talk show is not the same as actively aiding in genocide. Acting like jokes are literally violence is an SJW mentality. That’s not something I get behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:18 AM
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If you try to nail feminists down on why women do this, welp... total silence. One of the hosts on the show condemned the applause and jokes, and called it sexist. As for why people in the audience clapped in the first place, it's a case of going with the flow. A friend of mine went to a show like this years ago. You're supposed to clap at certain points, laugh at certain points, etc. That's the entire reason they give out free tickets to these shows, the audience is getting a free show and a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:12 PM
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Also big lol at how you used 'released an album' as a metric for current relevance, my cousin released an album too He's sold 40 million albums and has 3 Grammys. He's one of the most famous R&B singers in the last 50 years. His music has never been my cup of tea but I know he's had a very successful career.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:58 PM
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No one can name a single one of those movies or albums, no one knows who the hell Ben Rothswhatever even is. They're all well-known celebrities in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:56 PM
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All the men you named were accused of rape. Rape and theft are always perceived as two very different crimes. Mark Wahlberg beat up a blind man. Tim Allen trafficked drugs. There are many other examples of celebrities who committed fairly serious crimes in their past. I don't see why she should be held to a different standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:55 PM
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That's not rape. Telling someone that a partner of theirs is transgender isn't rape. If sex that you later regret after learning new information counts as rape, then that has to apply across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:46 PM
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I don't really have much sympathy for johns who get ripped off. That's probably a controversial stance to take but it's how I feel. Lots of women who work in the sex industry are sex trafficking victims, and this has been well-known for years. Men who participate in that are contributing to some of the scummiest criminal enterprises. It's not the sexually-empowered paradise that some try to portray it as. She did what she had to do to avoid sleeping with scummy men who possibly would have tried …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:43 PM
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There’s one. If I ever, due to health reasons, couldn’t engage in any sexual activity (no intercourse, oral, anal, or even hand jobs), and this situation was incurable and would last for the rest of my life, I would permit my husband to have sex with other women, as long as there was no emotional connection, I never found out when he was doing it or with whom, and he wasn’t flaunting it in public. That being said, if he couldn’t have sex again, I’d choose not to seek it elsewhere. I just have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:31 AM
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No. I love going out, I don't want to be with someone who doesn't like going out. We just wouldn't be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 11:13 PM
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I would expect the NBA sub to talk about basketball, since it’s natural to want to talk about things you like. What I would find weird, is if someone started an anti-basketball subreddit. If you hate basketball, why would you want to spend so much time talking about it? There are lots of men who simply don’t date. They go to work, hang out with friends, and enjoy their hobbies, all without worrying about women. Joining a group of other men who don’t date isn’t abnormal, but it is if all you talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 03:45 PM
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Joining a community or movement solely dedicated to ignoring women is making women the centre of your life. Lots of people give up on dating and just do their own thing. They don't constantly discuss it online and find other non-romantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:04 PM
2

That's ridiculous. People of all ideologies and world views like having pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:01 PM
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I got married at 23. I hate dating, I’m not into partying or going to clubs either. I made an online friend, we started flirting and stuff, and started an online relationship, then got married. A lot of women aren’t into those sorts of things. I’d argue the reason a lot of women aren’t marrying young is because a lot of young men aren’t so eager to get married in their 20s, and women aren’t pushing them as much as they did in previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:15 PM
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Women don't need men, they choose to have men in their lives for the same reason men enjoy having women in their lives. If a man is making a woman's life more difficult and he's making her miserable, why shouldn't she leave? Some men are trash, and I see no point in keeping trash around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:11 PM
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Not always. Sometimes you're just tired of the relationship and you'd rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:09 PM
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There is almost ALWAYS a notable drop off in communication, in intimacy, in enthusiasm, more arguing, etc. yes you can be blindsided but it likely meant you were too obtuse to see the warning signals. I'd argue that women are far more likely to openly state "I think we should start going to couple's counselling, I'm not happy" than a man is. I see a lot of posts on Reddit where guys ask "a few months ago my wife said she wanted to go to counselling, I refused since I didn't think we needed it. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:04 PM
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Women divorce perfectly decent husbands Maybe they didn't consider their husbands perfectly decent, for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 09:52 PM
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That's definitely true. With the exception of those who file due to abuse or adultery, most women tell their husbands that they are unhappy with something in the marriage before they make the final move to file for divorce. A lot of guys will claim "I didn't see it coming", but when asked further, will admit that their wife suggested counselling a few months before she filed and he refused to go "because everything seemed fine," or that she started seeming distant in the weeks or months before s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 09:51 PM
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I’m not Muslim, but I am Arab and mixed race. If a MAGA doesn’t trust me because of that, then they’re welcome to not interact with me. I don’t care, since I don’t have much of a desire to be around bigots anyway. People who are part of any racial, religious, or sexual minority know that there are going to be people who dislike them for that, so they tend not to waste their time trying to interact with bigots when they can be avoided. Men don’t usually do that. If someone comes off as having a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 05:07 PM
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I don’t know what a UMC is. Millennials are less obsessed with owning big McMansions than their parents were. They’d rather spend their money on experiences like travel than living in a 6 bedroom home. Obviously everyone’s an individual with their own preferences, but that’s the general trend. Also, I mentioned that I was referring to making $60K after taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 04:53 PM
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I'm open to changing my opinion on any stance I hold, as long as someone is willing to present convincing counter arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 03:13 AM
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That's not accurate for many libertarians. Being conservative in the US implies being socially conservative just as much if not more than being fiscally conservative. I'm incredibly conservative on fiscal issues. I support the right to own guns and the right of responsible sane people to carry them. But I'm also pro-choice, pro-LGBT rights, in favour of amnesty for illegal immigrants who aren't committing crimes, and think religion has no place in politics. I don't consider myself a conservative…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 01:20 AM
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Men in the top 10% looks wise are more likely than average to commit and get married. A lot of men want an attractive woman who is caring, loyal, and hasn't been with more than one or two guys at most (some prefer that the woman hasn't been sexually active at all), and has never been married. A guy who sleeps around in his 20s and doesn't even want to start considering marriage until he's in his 30s is going to find a very diminished dating pool at that age. Also, your statement was objectively …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 01:11 AM
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Someone doesn't have much real life experience. I'm an architect, I know a thing or two about housing costs. I already made it clear that I wasn't talking about downtown NYC or the Bay Area. Here are some homes that are worth $100K. Some are condos, but some of these are in the suburbs of larger cities, and are perfectly fine homes for a single woman in her 20s with no kids. Unless you are in a region of the country with over-inflated housing costs and rent, there is absolutely no reason one per…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 12:45 AM
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They don’t want someone who will always be challenging them, are prone to arguing, etc. Some men do want a woman who stands up for herself and isn't afraid to disagree or challenge him. Not every man wants a subservient woman. And to me, a man who can't handle a little disagreement isn't a high value man. Having to be surrounded by overly-agreeable people isn't a desirable trait in any aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 11:04 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 11:01 PM
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If you have $400 car note and $200 payments on revolving debt (quite low numbers) You're going to need to earn at least $80K to qualify for a mortgage with a $2 monthly payment (likely more given today's stricter underwriting). Perhaps. The average mortgage is around $1000 a month though, so $2000 is definitely on the higher end. I just used that as an example, assuming they've living in a detached home in a good neighbourhood in the Northeast. health insurance (can be over a thousand dollars pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 11:00 PM
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No woman wants to marry a taxi driver I'd marry a handsome taxi driver with a good personality. Do you honestly think that no blue collar men are in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:42 PM
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I'm not bisexual. I'm not into women, at all. I've never met a woman I'm attracted to. I don't rule out the possibility, if it ever happened I'd accept it, but everyone I've ever been attracted to has been a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:34 PM
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She didn't say that her friends expect to find men to finance their lifestyles, just that they want someone who earns a good living so they can continue living their current lifestyle. Finances are one of the biggest reasons for divorce. Someone who values vacationing and dining out isn't going to be compatible with someone who has never been able to afford to do that, or someone who could afford it but thinks it's a waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:33 PM
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Solid 10/10 response, you've totally changed my perspective on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:30 PM
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I'd rather be perceived as hostile toward men than be raped or assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:28 PM
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I love how you think that their SMV is increased by hairdos, nails, waxing etc. Most men don't give a fuck about any of that. Some dudes even like to sniff a woman's sweaty hairy armpit. No, men don't care about the specific colour of a woman's nails. However, a woman who regularly gets her hair and nails done, and removes body hair to some degree, is going to be more attractive to men than a woman who has thin, unkempt, stringy hair and doesn't shave at all, not out of principle but out of lazi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:14 PM
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Yes it is. Someone who earns $60,000 a year (after tax for arguments sake) can afford that lifestyle if they have no kids. Especially if they're living in the suburbs. You can get a very nice house in most places and have a mortgage of $2000 a month. That leaves them $36,000 a year to eat out at nice restaurants, buy designer clothes, and go for regular hair, nails, and waxing appointments, and travel once or twice a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:09 PM
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No one is owed anything. They're not being unreasonable by seeking out someone whose lifestyle is more in line with theirs though. A woman who makes effort to look attractive shouldn't be expected to settle for a fat neckbeard in sweatpants. And a woman who makes good money and enjoys going out and having a good time shouldn't be expected to date someone who isn't into that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 09:57 PM
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A lot of people debate whether dating is harder for men or women, but they're referring to people who are average or above. Ugly women have a much harder time dating, hooking up, or marrying, than ugly men. Even if an ugly woman was incredibly kind, funny, intelligent, and wealthy, her options would be extremely limited compared to those of an ugly man with the same qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 09:23 PM
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Yes, I’m a feminist who isn’t ugly. Sorry to burst your bubble. I’m not saying I’m a supermodel but I didn’t exactly look like your typical 22 year old kissless virgin either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 07:40 AM
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I was a virgin until 22. I’m not fat or ugly either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 02:34 AM
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There's no reason to treat a woman badly because of her weight or even DQ her as a romantic prospect because of it. No one should treat anyone badly because of their weight, but if you're not attracted to fat people, it's okay to not date fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 05:38 PM
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My thoughts are that first of all, it was wrong to share private texts with the media. He does come off as an asshole in these texts, though. It sounds to me like he was trying to neg her after she said she didn't want to fly out and meet him. He made an assumption based on the photos she posted on Instagram, he assumed she'd be up for a hookup. When she made it clear that wasn't the case, he should have backed off. If someone dresses in a way that suggests they like hookups, but they say they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 05:33 PM
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The difference is, men pay for their own water and yours. Men pay for their share of hte police services and womens. Men pay to use the roads and they pay womens share to. Men pay for their own share of the military and womens. Men pay for their own share of healthcare and womens. Are you under the assumption that all men work and no women work?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:36 PM
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Everyone benefits from government spending, I don't disagree. But I think you and I both know you weren't talking about things like infrastructure or utilities when you claimed most women benefit from government programs and most men do not, unless you're making the claim that men don't drive or drink water.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:27 PM
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I've read some of her writings, and I agree with a lot of what she says. I don't really follow one specific type of feminism, my overall philosophy is pretty much that feminism should be primarily a woman's liberation movement. I don't really want "male feminists" in feminist organisations, nor do I think it's the responsibility of feminist groups to worry about how gender inequality negatively affects men (which is always what happens when men get involved in feminist circles). Black Lives Matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:25 PM
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You notice I said public assistance, not welfare. That includes TANF, EBT, WIC, utility help, Section 8, and any other government programs that directly give assistance to people. I didn't look up the statistics of who claims tax credits. I don't consider tax credits to be welfare though, unless you want to make the argument that a graduated tax rate is also a form of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:57 PM
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The majority of people have never collected any public assistance. Women with kids are more likely to collect than men with kids, or either without kids. Men and women without kids collect at a nearly identical rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:36 PM
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I'm fine with that as long as men pay for their own existence themselves too. TBH, there's no reason any able-bodied person should be living off government funds. Minimum wage should be a living wage, and welfare should be eliminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:26 PM
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it's enough to turn any self respecting woman into a radfem. Men IRL aren't much better in my experience. I don't even attempt to hide the fact that I'm a radfem these days. Fighting for your own interests isn't hateful as long as no one else is hurt in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:24 PM
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Have you considered that maybe, women who actively post on gender politics subreddits are less likely to care about money and more likely to care about personality than the average woman? I don't think women on here represent all women. The women are here probably range from 20-35, more likely to be educated than the average person, more politically active than average, and more likely to openly identify as feminist or anti-feminist as opposed to being ambivalent. That demographic is far less li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 07:17 PM
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the most beautiful women in the world take themselves to milieus in which they can meet these men Among very attractive women, the percentage who are interested in dating an unattractive but wealthy man are in the minority. Very attractive women have no problem meeting attractive, wealthy men their age. It's not hard for a very attractive 25 year old woman to meet an attractive 30 year old doctor, she doesn't have to settle for a fat 70 year old if she wants a wealthy partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 07:08 PM
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Not unless I'd find them attractive otherwise. I'm not attracted to money or power, it's not a factor for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 07:05 PM
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Most women are visual. Most want to be with someone they are sexually attracted to, which means he has to be physically attractive. As for Danny Devito, he's been married to the same woman for 36 years, and she's kind of ugly as well. But they seem genuinely happy together, they both seem really funny and nice, and probably are attracted to each other's personalities. Not everyone is visual, and I'm sure that people who aren't conventionally attractive are less visual than people who are, to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 12:28 AM
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In my experience, people who didn't live nearby or work together, who do happen to meet by chance somehow, tend to have much stronger relationships than average. Maybe it's because your relationship has to be strong to make long-distance work, but there's definitely a correlation in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 03:02 AM
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Before birth control pills, the only option was condoms, and most people don't want to commit to wearing condoms every time they have sex until their wife has finished menopause. People would pull out, wear condoms some of the time, or avoid sex during ovulation. Those things work for some people, but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 02:32 AM
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I'm married without kids (we might have kids one day). I don't understand what's confusing about marriage without kids. It makes the relationship more permanent. Yes, divorce exists, but it takes time, so you're more likely to work together and compromise in order to make the relationship work. You'll leave over cheating, abuse, lack of affection or sex, but you are more likely to stay despite disagreements or minor issues. Having that commitment is important if you're going to make joint financ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 02:28 AM
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If you went to a bar with exactly 100 women, what percentage do you think would want to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 12:06 AM
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If you're ugly and lack game, you could be the best pianist/programmer/sky-diver/etc in the world and still be a virgin. If you're an unattractive and socially awkward pianist, you won't have a problem dating unattractive and socially awkward female classical/jazz musicians. You will have a problem if you are trying to appeal to attractive women or women who have no interest in piano or classical/jazz music.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 11:58 PM
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To be honest, if someone of either gender calls the police because someone threw a piece of cardboard at them, that's not going to lead to criminal charges in most jurisdictions, and if it does, no one is going to prison over it. Is it assault if your kid throws slime at you or silly strings you? An old employer of mine once threatened to call the cops on an employee for eating a bag of crisps without paying for them. A few days later, a cop came in to get a coffee, and my coworker asked them ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:38 PM
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He should have done the second one. Tell the viewers that he has to go, turn off the stream, then have a discussion/argument with her. He could have even asked for a divorce if he wanted. There are almost always numerous options other than hitting your spouse. He didn't hit out of self-defence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:26 PM
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As I said, feminists aren’t advocating for cuckoldry. A lot advocate for couples having the right to make their own decisions about monogamy without being shamed by society, but most aren’t actively pro-cuck. And lots of feminists (including me) do have STEM careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:44 PM
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Are you talking about child support? Providing for your own children isn't cuckoldry. Once you break up with someone, they have no obligation of exclusivity to you anymore, they're allowed to date or sleep with whomever they want. If you have a child with them, and they are responsible for the majority of childcare duties, you are required to provide financial support to offset those financial responsibilities. Your responsibility to your children doesn't go away if your ex starts dating someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 12:04 AM
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Feminists, or women in general, aren't into cuckoldry. That's a male fantasy. Go to the subreddits for any of these fetishes, and you'll find that most of the subscribers are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 12:01 AM
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An acquaintance of mine was into that before cucking became a popular thing. He'd get in touch with married couples on Craiglist, Fetlife, or swinger sites, and sleep with guy's wives, sometimes with the husband watching, sometimes not. He liked it because it was no-commitment sex for him. He was kind of skinny, socially awkward, and nerdy, and wasn't comfortable approaching women in bars, and hook-up apps like Tinder didn't really exist then, so while he wasn't really into the whole "husband wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:58 PM
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This isn't /r/whineaboutsinglemothers. A few people on here seem obsessed with that topic. It has nothing to do with this post. Dating a single mother is not cucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:51 PM
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Women who cheat usually aren't into cucking though. In fact, a lot of women who do it only go along with it because it's their husband's fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:50 PM
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Even if your entire social circle is made up entirely of Dutch-Americans, you still can't completely disregard the statistics. At best, you could say "5'9" is short to me".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:21 AM
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Yes, if you exclude all Americans other than Northern and Western Europeans, then 5'9" seems short, but that's not how statistics work. You can't just keep excluding different ethnic groups until you get the desired results.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:18 AM
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It's rare to find a decent woman who's 30 and hasn't slept with more than 7 guys anyway. The average woman sleeps with 6 men in her lifetime. And this isn't the 90s anymore where if you "just lower your standards" you can find someone willing to date/hang out with you. If this were true, only the most attractive people would be in relationships. Do you honestly think that everyone below a 7/10 is single? Lots of below average people are in relationships. What I can't understand is men who admit …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:40 PM
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When women deem 80% of men as below average in attractiveness, that is cruel When I was single I considered about 98% of men too unattractive to date. That's not cruel, it's just reality. I put effort into looking attractive, I'm allowed to demand the same from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:19 PM
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Then only date virgins. Just keep in mind that virgins over 20 tend to be super picky and probably won't sleep with you unless you're a 10/10 and they see you as marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:24 PM
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Men are already going on a marriage strike, and women and society are losing their shit over it. They must not be doing a very good job of it, since this is the first I've heard of this marriage strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:17 PM
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This is only true if Becky doesn't earn a great deal. If she can afford to buy a nice car for herself, she doesn't need to worry about settling for a controlling incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:16 PM
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They'd back down. The average woman cares less about having a sexless life than the average man. So if men decide that they're going to act collectively and change social norms to benefit men at the expense of women, single women will just avoid men until they back down. Unions work in the labour market, since employers need employees in order for their business to function. If you own a store and have 10 employees, and they all go on strike, and no one else is applying for work there, you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:13 PM
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Most ugly overweight men have ugly overweight wives. And even then, you need to have an attractive personality. Intelligence, a sense of humour, being a super romantic boyfriend/husband, something. You can't be stupid, rude, and boring, and be physically unattractive and expect to meet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:07 PM
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card tricks What woman is turned on by card tricks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:02 PM
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Women are spoiled and cruel in the way they evaluate men Having preferences, and not dating men you're not attracted to, is not cruel or spoiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:00 PM
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For me, attractive means handsome face, not fat or bald, taller than me, doesn't dress like shit, and has at least average social skills. If you want to be more attractive to women, definitely lose weight, and dress well. Women are more likely to go out with a guy who is confident and takes care of himself but is a little on the heavy side. No one wants to date a fat slob though. A lot of fat men make the mistake of completely giving up on their looks because they're fat. As for your social skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 08:58 PM
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Most high schoolers aren’t consenting adults. If an 18 year old in high school wants to date a 25-30 year old, that’s fine. That being said, I’d still find it creepy if a man in his mid to late twenties was actively seeking out high schoolers on Tinder or something. If an 18 year old and a 28 year old meet at work and fall for each other, that’s a little different, nothing weird about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:42 PM
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That's just wasting a delivery driver's time. Most of them work entirely on tips. He'll show up at the girl's house with the pizza, she will assume you paid for it over the phone. He'll call his boss to find out what he should do, and the pizza shop will either tell him to give her the pizza anyway, thinking she was pranked and feeling sorry for her, or tell him to bring the pizza back to the shop, which means the food gets thrown away, and he worked an hour for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:00 AM
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How is it shitty? I've never even used Tinder, but if someone asks you to buy them a pizza, and you buy them a pizza, that's a pretty fair exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:55 AM
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Not everyone considers Western Europeans to be the pinnacle of attractiveness. My BIL (white and British) is with an Eastern European woman. I'm Arab and Roma and married to a white British guy. Blaming your lack of dating success on race/ethnicity is just lazy. If you have a job, a decent personality, and aren't ugly, there's no reason you can't find a woman in Western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:51 AM
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I don’t continue seeing a girl if we don’t have sex on the first date (where I also spend as little on her as possible) I'm about as far from a gold digger as you can get but that's just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:39 AM
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You get what you give. No sane man will wait for 3 months to get sexual with a woman who used to get sexual on week 2 in her youth. Most men assume that about any woman they're with, whether it's true or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:34 AM
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Regardless; if it's true in the US be mindful that the US is a unnaturally religious and "traditional" country for a developed nation. More than half of all Americans live in metropolitan areas, where the culture is almost indistinguishable from Europe for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:06 AM
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Most women care if a guy is hot. That doesn't mean "Calvin Klein's latest underwear model", that means someone they consider hot, based on individual preferences. I'm not fat, I spend over an hour every morning doing my hair and makeup, spend a lot of my disposable income on buying good clothes, skincare products, and good makeup. When I was single, I wasn't going to settle for a guy who wasn't hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:57 AM
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Have you ever heard a bunch of teenage girls talking about how pathetic wrinkly old men (ie, 25 year olds) are? A 25 year old man trying to date girls in high school is pathetic, regardless of what he looks like. I've always been into older guys, so in high school, I found guys 25-30 attractive, but I was also smart enough to know that one showing any interest in me was a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:44 AM
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No 22 year old women want marriage, despite their claiming they do Several in this thread have already stated that they were married, engaged, or actively seeking marriage at 22. Do you think all 22 year old brides are getting married against their will?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:38 AM
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👋🏼 I was engaged at 22. My fiance was 29 at the time if that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:34 AM
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The majority of single women are not mothers. When I was single, I refused to date single dads. I wasn't willing to make sacrifices for someone else's kids. So I just didn't date single dads, I didn't go on bitter rants about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:30 AM
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This isn't unique to women. Obviously the older you get, and the more financially stable you are, the more financially stable you expect your partner to be. A 15 year old isn't going to demand that their partner be a homeowner with a diversified stock portfolio. They know anyone they date will live at home with their parents, so their primary demand, other than be attractive, is that their partner can afford (whether from earnings at a job or money from parents) to go on dates at a coffee shop o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:27 AM
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I'm not saying that women don't genuinely enjoy their lifestyles, I'm saying that if a woman is absolutely not attractive to men within her lifestyle, she will branch out a little. I went to a very liberal art college, and I loved it because I could study what I wanted to study, and I enjoyed that. I'm not into liberal artsy guys though. I eventually met a guy online who was more my type, since there was no way I was going to meet a guy on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 03:22 AM
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Not necessarily, since many (not all) women would decide to change themselves rather than changing what type of guy they're into. I'm not saying they would totally give up their hobbies, but they'd also get into hobbies where they can meet guys they like, and who will like them. If a woman does decide that she doesn't want to date someone who doesn't share her lifestyle, and/or her lifestyle isn't appealing to men who are her type, then yes, she would be settling if she's not as keen to be with …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 02:58 AM
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I don't know, I'd say she was around a 4-5 to be honest. Still, she was very outgoing and charismatic, good sense of humour, intelligent, and nice, so a lot of guys would be attracted to her based on that, and she certainly wasn't ugly or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 02:41 AM
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Most women in that situation aren't in love with the men they choose I would disagree. If a woman is unconventional in some way, she will usually either fall for a similar guy, or will stray away from that image and become more conventional when she's looking to settle down. For example, if a woman is nerdy, and her hobbies and social life revolve around that, she's unlikely to think all nerdy guys are weirdos. If she does though, she will probably start branching out and getting into different …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 09:59 PM
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Probably not. Falling for someone who isn't conventionally attractive doesn't mean you're settling. Sometimes the person you are with is the most attractive person to you, you find them more attractive than supermodels. Sometimes it's a case of falling for them more for their personality, other times you prefer unconventional looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 09:53 PM
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I asked him about it once, he said he didn’t ask me out because he wasn’t sure how serious I was. We were online friends and had never actually met, but talked every day and we flirted a lot. He had told friends of his that he cared about me but worried I didn’t feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:39 PM
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No woman who's slept with only 2 men have the experience to say that kind of thing. Fucked only 2 dicks in her life and yet knows so much about dicks that she knows what size is "the best" for her and what length/girth is big enough. FWIW, I've only been with one man, and I can honestly say that if you've been with a guy whose around 8", you have enough experience to know that 8" is going to be better than 5".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:01 AM
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Sometimes it just happens. From the woman's perspective in this scenario, I was 22, in college, and met a guy online. I knew he was a little older but wasn't sure how much, he turned out to be 29. I liked him and asked him out anyway, graduated shortly afterwards, and the age difference has never been an issue. Not every older guy with a younger girlfriend/wife was intentionally seeking out younger women, and vice versa. If you meet someone and truly have a connection with them, and have common …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:38 AM
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Yes, I'm married (to a very conservative guy lol) and I'm feminist, and pretty vocal about it. It leads to some interesting debates at home. Being promiscuous was just never my thing. I've pretty much always had the stance that if I'm not good enough to be a wife or at least a committed girlfriend, then I have no interest in being a sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:54 AM
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Do you think that a virgin wife will never have eyes for another or wonder what she missed? As a woman who has only slept with (or even kissed) one man, I can honestly say that I never have any desire to cheat. I'm satisfied with the sex life I have and don't have any interest in sleeping with other men, nor do I think I missed out on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:04 AM
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He can have whatever preferences he wants, but assuming that someone would be a bad mother because they had a few orgies or sex in nightclub toilets is pretty misogynist. Why can't someone who has had orgies be a good parent? Also, if a guy was 23 years old and had slept with 20 women, most people wouldn't think anything of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:59 AM
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Lots of women are in relationships with men who don’t provide for them, and they love their SOs just as much as women who are provided for. I love my husband for who he is, money has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:47 PM
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It depends on the guy. Some men know how to be charming, and are able to be a little persistent without coming off as creepy. The type of men making Reddit posts asking questions about how to handle social situations usually aren’t that type. Nothing wrong with that, but it’s a fact. For men who are a bit less socially adept, it’s better to advise them to err on the side of caution, and always back off after a woman says no the first time. I’ll always give a more nuanced answer to someone who I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:11 PM
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A lot of women also do it because they want to wear a jacket that smells like their SO. It’s kind of intimate.
/r/MensRights29/11/18 02:27 AM
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But subconsciously?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 10:45 PM
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I prefer men with blue eyes. I’m non-white. Does that mean I hate my race?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 08:55 PM
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Large boobs usually have large areolas. It’s rare that they don’t, and they are natural. Sometimes they look relatively small, other times you can tell they are large.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 05:05 PM
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Probably because they’re used to seeing good fakes in porn, assume they’re real, and assume that most women with large natural breasts have tiny nipples. Then they get disappointed the first time they see real breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 05:25 AM
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I know lots of white women who have a preference for Asian or black men, and it has nothing to do with being a white hater. Preferring darker skin doesn't mean a white person hates their own race. I also know many white women who don't care either way, and would date a man of any race if they thought he was handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:15 PM
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That's probably part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:13 PM
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That's true, I'm taller than average for women even in the US, where I'm from. If I were single and moved to a country where a lot of men were shorter than me, there's a chance I'd be more open to dating shorter guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:13 PM
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Lots of women have preferences for non-white men though, so I'm not sure that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:19 PM
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I never said the guy has to be white, I said I'm only attracted to blue eyed men. And I'm not a white nationalist or anything, I'm not even white. It's just a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:40 PM
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I don't know why I have that preference, but I prefer being the smaller one in the relationship. If I'm wearing super high heels and I happen to be temporarily taller than my husband, I don't mind, but I just wouldn't be attracted to someone who was always shorter or smaller than me. What exactly are you two doing that he needs to be super strong for? Not being able to pick me up would be a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:10 PM
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Not many guys are shorter than me. Maybe it's seen as shallow, but I don't want to be with someone who if I'm wearing heels, I have to lean down to kiss. Not to mention, he'd probably be physically weaker than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:01 PM
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What does someone do if they're only attracted to people with that hair or eye colour?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:55 PM
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I heard recently that most people in the US who identify as hispanic also identify as white but I haven't verified that. That's because the only "races" you are allowed to declare on the census are white, black, Asian, or Native American. Middle Easterners, North Africans, and Latinos typically select white, even though that's not they personally identify.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:53 PM
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Very few Latinos are of 100% European origin. Most are mixed race, and don't pass as white, appearance-wise or culturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:50 PM
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I don't buy the "it's cultural, we have a very eurocentric world view" cliché because current culture pedestalizes "diversity" to an unhealthy degree 20% of American couples are interracial. Interracial couples don't make up any more than that on television or movies. People are just so used to seeing homogenous couples, that if 1/5 couples on TV are interracial, they assume an agenda is being pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:47 PM
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It depends on someone's reason for preferring white people. I've always preferred white men (I'm not white), but that's because having blue eyes is almost a requirement for me to be attracted to someone. I don't know why, it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:41 PM
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As someone married to someone whose politics are drastically different to mine, I get it. We are in love, and we both like being with someone who challenges our views, but sometimes it leads to arguments. I can understand the appeal of being with someone who more or less shares your political views.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:39 PM
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Most men don't care about height though, so a woman being 5'6" or shorter doesn't make a woman any less attractive to the vast majority of men. So it's not like shorter women are being choosey beggars for liking tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:31 PM
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Most women only require that the guy be a few inches taller than them. Women who demand 6'2" or something are rare. My requirement has always been "must be taller than me," and I don't think ruling out guys under 5'7" is terribly shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:29 PM
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A lot of men have dumb preferences regarding boobs. I constantly see posts on Reddit with guys saying that they only like "large boobs, must be natural, and can't have big nipples." 99% of women have exactly two of those three things. All three are nearly impossible (large natural boobs almost always have larger nipples.) Many guys who have that preference also demand that the woman be a size 2, draining their potential dating pool even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:27 PM
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Commitment: Only being intimate with me, and considering marrying me. Romance: Going on dates, spending time together doing things other than having sex, having an emotional connection, being in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:52 AM
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Many women do like being submissive to dominant men. Dominant =/= "sleeps with multiple partners" though. I enjoy being submissive to a dominant partner. That doesn't mean I'd put up with cheating or non-exclusivity. If a guy wants me to be submissive to him, he has to earn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 11:20 PM
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I know that's what a lot of men want, my point is that a man who wants and actually expects that is not marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 11:04 PM
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If the guy was really marriage material, he wouldn't be fucking other women. He'd offer exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 10:59 PM
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Put ~~ before and after the '||||'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 10:57 PM
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What does a woman get out of being a personal bangmaid? She doesn't get any of the commitment or romance, and she doesn't get to have sex with different guys. Most women want one or the other, and aren't okay just being part of some guy's harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 10:56 PM
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But what do you bring to the table? What you're describing is incredibly rare, but not completely non-existent. But women who are in their 20s and virgins but not religious, asexual, or unattractive, they want to put out early and often, but only for the perfect guy, someone who is a 10/10 and has an incredible personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 10:52 PM
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You can easily look up these statistics. Personally, I've only been with 1 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:17 AM
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Probably because there are so many posts on Reddit like "I'm a 5/10 man, but the only women who show any interest in me are 2/10s."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 11:04 PM
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A ship can only have one captain. If a woman wants a strong leader as a partner, then she needs to respect the line of command and let him lead. A ship also has a first mate, who only continues to fulfill that role as long as the captain makes reasonable decisions and maintains the first mate's respect and trust. I'm fine with my husband being the one with more power in the relationship, but that's because I choose to participate in that dynamic. I like having a strong leader as a partner, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:59 PM
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I think it all depends on the guy. A decent guy will want a woman who isn't an asshole, but has her own thoughts and isn't afraid to disagree with him or stand up for herself. Losers prefer women who are completely docile and will just be agreeable and meek.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:47 PM
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Hence why the average woman probably fucks a new guy every week. The average woman has been with 6 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 08:17 PM
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Lots of men know whether or not they have feelings for a woman before having sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:04 AM
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My strategy has always been never having sex outside of a relationship. I've only been with one man, my husband (we did it before we were married though).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:03 AM
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I also mentioned good looks and a big dick. What's your problem anyway? You have a shit personality but expect an attractive woman who will be subservient to you. It's not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 02:19 AM
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That's probably because there's no male equivalent of a butch. A woman who wants to be masculine can cut her hair short, stop wearing makeup, and wear men's clothes, and she's still accepted by society as a cis woman. If a man starts wearing dresses and heels, grows his hair long, and wears makeup, most people are going to label him as trans, and even if he insists that he identifies as a man, he will still be considered non-binary at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 10:21 PM
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Or the fact that he spent time at work writing a whole manifesto instead of doing his job, then sent it around to everyone he worked with in the form of a professional memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 10:15 PM
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The ideology behind TRP is that men and women are different biologically, and that straight men should use that to their advantage. You can't insist that biological sex determines personality and that people will act a given way based on their sex, but then make an exception for trans people. And you can't argue that it's based on gender identity rather than biological sex, since doing so would also require them to accept that gender non-conforming cis women exist, which would destroy their enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 10:11 PM
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As a young woman, I’d say there’s a lot more pressure to be promiscuous, especially by men, but if you conform, you’ll be mocked for it, by both genders. I’ve only ever slept with one man (and only kissed one man), and some people seem to see the lack of experience as a bad thing, or make assumptions about my personality or lifestyle because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 05:44 PM
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Because going after mail order brides is something only losers do. And do you really think those women will stay with you once they get their green card?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 03:51 PM
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Unless you’re a handsome multimillionaire with a big dick, have fun being single for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 03:48 PM
1

Why can’t you date a 5.5/10 woman in your country? Or work on becoming more attractive, if you can’t stand to date an average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 03:44 PM
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A lot of fat guys would consider dating her though if she had a good personality, dressed well, and had good hair/makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 02:32 AM
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The tweet in this image talks about financial discrimination and spousal rape, both of which I consider legitimate issues, especially the latter. It’s tagged as “humour.”
/r/MensRights15/09/18 10:00 PM
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Serious question: why should women lift a finger to address men’s issues when MRAs think the issues we have faced are a joke?
/r/MensRights15/09/18 09:41 PM
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MRAs: Tell women that we have to take responsibility for our own safety to avoid rape. Then laugh at us and accuse us of hating men when we do. Sorry, but my safety comes before your fee-fees. I don’t let men buy me a drink (I’m married now, but when I was single I never did), and I don’t let a drink out of my sight. The benefits just aren’t worth the risk. And if someone is offended by me politely declining their drink, that’s probably not someone I want to be interacting with anyway.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 09:03 PM
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He’s a professional thief. One of his charges is for running out of a hair salon after an appointment without paying.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 08:53 PM
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Even if all that is true, people are still only going to go out with people they find attractive. Selecting sexual partners is one situation where you can be as discriminatory as you want. If someone feels belittled by that, then that’s their own shit to work out.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 05:22 PM
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I'm calling bullshit. You start helping girls carry their books, are asked to stop because they think you're being creepy, so you decide to help another girl regardless of being told to back off. Somehow, in trying to take her books, you "accidentally" touched her thighs. Being called a creep isn't a false accusation. You were acting in a way that people found creepy, and didn't stop after being told to stop. Not every woman wants some guy she doesn't know helping her carry her stuff.
/r/MensRights29/06/18 11:12 PM
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Sensitive is fine, but this sub is hypocritical. You claim to support free speech and condemn feminists for calling people out for misogynist jokes, but then get sensitive over a joke when men are on the receiving end.
/r/MensRights28/06/18 08:45 PM
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They never tried to stop her from speaking freely. That being said, they’re free to criticise her points of view as harshly as they want. OP admits that she wasn’t banned from the group; they told her they’re not going to read MRA literature, she didn’t like the reason why, and she found other things they said about men and housewives offensive, so she left.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 06:28 PM
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She wasn't actually kicked out and told she's not allowed to attend more meetings. She was told they're not going to start reading MRA literature because, long story short, they don't want to, and "if you don't like it, leave". She left. They can't forbid her from sitting at a table in a public library if there's an open seat, but they're under no legal obligation to engage with her.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 05:57 PM
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I'm guessing the reading group was mostly feminist women, and they weren't interested in reading about men's rights, which is fair enough. If I were in the book club, I'd assume you were showing up just to be a concern troll and push an anti-feminist agenda. Feminists join feminist reading groups so they can meet with like-minded people once a week or so, they don't go there to debate MRAs. It's not childish for them to refuse to completely change how they do things to cater to one member. That …
/r/MensRights04/06/18 05:47 PM
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I don’t see how this makes the Girl Scouts exclusionary. The Girl Scouts prefer having two separate Scout groups. They had nothing to do with the Boy Scouts’ decision to change their name or policy. So why would they be pressured to accept boys into their group, when they have always supported having separate social groups for boys and girls?
/r/MensRights02/05/18 09:59 PM
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Which means that the majority of "regulars" on here agree with what he said?
/r/MensRights04/03/18 09:35 PM
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In particular, he never said "women should learn their place" Did you read the part of his comment which I quoted? making you've kind of neglected to make any yourself in terms of what above and beyond voting/financial independence you think should be there. I pointed out that women serve in the military, some women do support their family financially, some women are the builders and creators in society. The rights of women shouldn't stop simply at voting and holding a job. Women should have exa…
/r/MensRights04/03/18 09:25 PM
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It doesn't matter if there's 50 or 50 million people. 27 more people agreed than disagreed with the comment. It could have been 28-1, or 1027-1000, the point is, more subscribers upvoted than downvoted. And I'm on my laptop, so I can see the CSS for the subreddit, and it's not a subreddit that disables downvotes.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 07:54 PM
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That's not what he said though. He said he's fine with women voting and earning money for themselves, but "that's where it should stop, women should learn their place". Nothing he said could be interpreted as "women should be more understanding of what men do for them". I browse /r/all sometimes, and I like checking out different communities on here, getting a different perspective. I've never had a high opinion of the Men's Rights Movement, and comments like his basically confirmed it for me.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 07:44 PM
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He has 27 upvotes.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 05:32 PM
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Men provide for their familes. They build. They create. They protect. They fight. They are the foundation, beams and rivets that society and civilation is built on. Our forefathers didn't experience what modern men have to endure because women knew their place. Now I'm not saying women should remain out of the equation. I'm okay with a woman being able to vote and make a living for herself. But IMHO that's where it should've ended. Lots of women do that, and lots of men don't, there are lots of …
/r/MensRights03/03/18 10:12 PM
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I've never heard of someone having no custody or even visitation unless they're a very shitty person/parent. If the courts had to keep him from being a part of his son's life, perhaps there's a reason.
/r/MensRights03/03/18 10:05 PM
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