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In the same way I don’t want to put my hand in a snakes den, I just don’t want to go out of my way to increase the likelihood I am hurt dramatically for almost no payoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:28 AM
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All the fun topics got banned
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:39 PM
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Pretty unfortunate the way some people are set up for failure before they her the maturity to process the lessons they learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:18 PM
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I like the morning radio hosts for what it’s worth! Back when I was a kid and sitting in my mins car going to school I liked them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:12 PM
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I get weatherman a lot! At least it means I’m easy to understand, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:41 PM
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Again yeah from a male perspective this is how i feel. But I come at it from a givers perspective. I wouldn’t have a problem serving someone I was not attracted to, I just think the important bits won’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:35 PM
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I have a very high sex drive, but I am not willing to have sex with women I have no attraction to. I can’t really relate to the type of man to find a woman unattractive but still sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:14 PM
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It doesn’t vary— I’ve had sex with women I’ve been more attracted to and less attracted to and I don’t remember there being any variance. It might affect my physical performance but as far as pleasuring a person it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:35 PM
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Duncan answered your question exactly the way I would have. It’s not the same, but it’s a different kind of fun. And you end up connecting with them, too. I have always said that my bar for sex is the same as my bar for having sex is about the same as having someone over my house 1 on 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:41 PM
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I disagree that he would do better per encounter, but I agree that the average man will have a greater volume of interested women than the hot man. I just think the hot man is more likely to be accepted by the women that find him attractive and he will receive more leeway for his social faults. I think a lot of bpers ultimately want to become hot enough that their social deficiencies are excused ignored or romanticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:39 PM
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Right, and for some people even when they’re out at a bar and socializing among friends, a stranger approaching is a source of anxiety for them, not fun. All I’m really arguing is that you seem to be having a general positive experience because you enjoy the process of meeting strangers, which a lot of these men do not enjoy. If they enjoyed it, they’d probably have a better dating life, lol. I know I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:40 PM
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That’s not what I intended— it just sounds like you enjoy a random encounter. I love socializing too— with people I already know. A lot of people— men and women are this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:08 PM
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I mean I enjoy the act of pleasuring someone. They don’t need to be the light of my life for it to be enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:02 PM
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If you want a relationship/children, you have to play the game whether you want to or not. Also, are you extroverted? You sound like you enjoy socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EKJZ330TE6w I'm gonna throw up jesus christ 😭😭😭😭😭 Yeah, this man is a misogynist. The asterixis make me crawl out of my skin- I don't think even misogynist women would find this attractive. Why are they doing things to benefit themselves? I give beggars money because I have money and it's the right thing to do. The rest of this is interesting! I would regard my kindness and generosity as a compulsion rather than something I'm choosing a lot of the time. It's very o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:54 PM
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But my post mentions abusers. Physical and sexual abuse or felonies. Oh. Those guys try. They’re just not good at it. What I'm saying is that the incels complaining about abusers can't even be a dickhead to women, much less an abuser. How do you try to be an abuser? I feel like it's a pretty binary event based on actions taken. I’m going to need an example from you. I don't have anything but anecdotes. But I know several people who were bad partners to my female friends who are not said to be ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:12 PM
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...While I agree that those 3 people are the result of those 3 people doing what they wanted regardless of legality, Tate certainly does care what people think about him. But anyway, I wasn't talking about criminals, I was talking about guys who string women along, for example. Things that 'decent' men seem to be able to do without being called indecent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:52 PM
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I know we are talking in a separate comment thread, but in my response to the OP I addressed this part of your post. I'm phone posting so I can't copy paste but long story short if there are low personality standard women and high personality standard women, does that also not imply there like... mid personality women? You don't have to go to food banks but don't be rude to the waiter tier women? Doesn't seem unreasonable. "and do not need sexual or romantic incentive before behaving like good p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:13 PM
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See, you guys don’t want to hear when people say your actions might be conveying the opposite of what you’re feeling. What actions??? This is what I'm asking you to prove. What actions are people taking? The fact that it’s only a problem when it’s someone the man it’s interested in says a lot. But go ahead and complain about me criticizing how bad your words sound, proving me right. I will actually take this criticism, I used a poor choice of words. I should have said it is only a problem for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:55 PM
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Thanks for showing YOU dont listen. This whole post has been about behavior. I read through your post for the 4th time just to make sure I didn't miss anything. Nowhere in your post do you list a single behavior. The closest you have is this: Also, most men also do not spend their time victim blaming abuse victims, resenting women, or treating basic decency like a service that should be rewarded with sex. Which is just at best your interpretation of someone's feelings. And when they tell you "No…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:30 PM
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But you aren’t talking about behaviors, with are material, though. Like I said if people act crazy, I agree with you. Nice guys aren’t bad because they feel the way they feel, they’re bad because of the abuse they fling at the women who reject them. Are the actions these commit make them assholish things? Are the words they say to the women they’re interested in offensive? Whiny? Entitled? Or is that your perception based on private online conversations? Writing an anonymous comment online is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:40 PM
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That was not the argument you stated, though. When you say things like “They want her to see them as a savior and reward them with sex, admiration, and gratitude” this is you directly saying “When you say you feel this way actually you feel this way!” This is not about facts. Thank you for proving my point that you don’t listen when people are talking to you. You can prove that someone is in a situationship or not because situationships are an action(or lack of action, in not defining the relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:21 PM
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You can’t decide to disagree with someone else’s feelings. This isn’t a disagreement on reality— you don’t get to say “Actually when you guys say how you feel you actually mean x”. This proves that at least you don’t listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:10 PM
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I agree that's the next step. But it's not wrong to feel frustration that what you have been led to believe and what is true is discordant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:00 AM
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It’s really fucking retarded for a Person to be told it would help to be a good person and then they respond by saying well Look at all these shitty people Who have get boyfriends/girlfriends. Why is it? Like, seriously. If you tell me having small ears will get me a girlfriend, and then I look around and see all these guys with big ears get girlfriends, why is it weird to ask "Wait, you said I needed small ears, but these guys have big ears and have girlfriends while I don't. Why is that?" Now,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:58 AM
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This is exactly what I came here to say, lol. I feel like neither faction will listen to the other on this one and maybe it's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:25 PM
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I can pick a lilith thread out like a needle in a haystack. It isn't a good or bad thing, I've just been accustomed to her voice in writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:25 PM
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I knew it was a thread from you based on the title. Anyway, no, most men who talk about the way abusers treat their partners with surprise and frustration is because when you are told that your personality is the problem, and you look at men who literally abuse women, it is discordant. By virtue of not hitting a woman I am not a paragon of humanity, but I am better than anyone who ever hits a woman. Full stop, argue with the wall on that one. So, a lot of men like this, who are inexperienced and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:05 PM
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that is an aspect of patriarchy that WOMEN SEEK TO FREE MEN FROM ALSO. I do not believe that. I don't believe that most feminists believe this. You can just look at data on who's getting married, articles on men not stepping up financially enough, etc etc. I think most women seek to be divested of the female gender role which was oppressive, but don't introspect about what they expect out of men. The male role has not changed in part because it is not attractive to act unmanly. that is neither h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:43 PM
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like what? I'm about to leave the house so I need to make this reply brief, but things like asking for the masculine provider role in relationships, using benevolent patriarchy when it's useful, I'm just a girl minimalization of female intelligence, using biology to shield from physical escalation, deference to women in public spaces, to name a few. of course, not every human fully even thinks about this. it's not purposeful. the women that "uphold it" aren't doing it on purpose, they are more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:23 PM
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Completely agree. The voice note and bi men conversations being had are the clearest examples of this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:21 PM
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I asked for the bait!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:12 PM
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I understand what you mean— I still disagree with you. I do not think women(at large) are willing to give up what it means to be a woman under patriarchy— which comes with certain privileges and from what I’ve seen women at large don’t want to give those things up, which reinforces men to present in harmful ways. Like you said, patriarchy is a comprehensive, invisible force. We are all complicit— even women uphold the patriarchy. I guess I should have said that until women examine their role in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:12 PM
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I have no idea why this is happening btw. I really feel like the tea party had the last laugh by instilling conservative values into even self avowed liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:00 PM
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😔 I'm sorry to disappoint you but I agree with you completely with 2 and 3, lol. I do slightly push back on 2 because I think it is worth treating sides with equal seriousness, because people do believe in them. It wont convince anyone of anything when you just shit on them. It's best to take their beliefs seriously, but to take them down like any belief you'd take seriously. As for 1 though, I also agree, but unfortunately I don't think that's something men are willing to do so long as women de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:58 PM
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I'll argue with you if you want :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:44 PM
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That's fine if you feel that way. I feel similarly to this as I do breast augmentation- I don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:54 PM
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That's true, but I'm not interested in them, either. It's not about the fact they used to be a man, it's the fact that I'm not interested in penetrating a neo vagina is all. More power to people that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:39 PM
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If a man does not notice that makes them a bad lover- how do you not notice your partners lack of lubrication?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:34 PM
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You're really underselling the genital surgeries here. Supporting someone's right to do it doesn't mean I find it appetizing to put my body parts in there. There are things with sex with cis women that would be different with trans women at least now. In a hypothetical future where trans women could actually change their parts to a cis woman's, I would have no qualms at all dating a trans woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:22 PM
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I think that Jamie has more feminine features that women like in guys. Women don't typically like giant muscle men so a thinner guy with tighter proportions is probably more attractive in jamie's case. In Ryu and Alex's case though it feels like they were made in a lab to be sex appeal. I think they actually gave Ryu a beard in 6, because they gave him a skin with a beard in 5 and everyone was drooling over him. And if you haven't seen Alex's trailer you should, lol. I do really like street figh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:20 PM
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What do you think about street fighter characters? I think a lot of them have female fanbases like Jamie and Alex- Or bearded Ryu.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:14 PM
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While I think there are a section of men who feel that way, you don't just get to assert something like that. Maybe women can be more of an issue on this one subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:15 PM
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What does that have to do with being bi, then? What does that even have to do with being in a relationship? If a man is committing to you he's committing to you, so no matter what he would 'like' to do if it is outside of the confines of the relationship normal people don't step outside those bounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:05 PM
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It is a projection to say that the majority of men are alright with a bi partner because they want a threesome. The straight men who fetishize bi-ness in their partners is also problematic, and should be shamed for their prejudiced ideas on what a bi woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:56 PM
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Jesus Christ this biphobia conversation pisses me the fuck off, but honestly I'm glad it's happening. Very illuminating which people think they are above introspection, and what insults they fling instead of just sitting in their biases and understanding how they feel, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:19 PM
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Homophobia doesn't mean you have to be afraid of gay people. Bigoted, incorrect, and hateful opinions on LGBT people are homophobia even if you aren't spooked by them. I don’t think cultural or religious aversions to dating/marrying bisexual people are automatically homophobic. I can't imagine a single instance where this would be true. Maybe in the hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:09 PM
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Why do men care about body count? First of all, people who care about this are weirdos, and the reasons they care are often ad hoc justfications for insecurity. But anyway- Having a high body count is an action, not a state of being. A bi man can be bi and not act on that bi-ness whatsoever. If people like you said they couldn't imagine being with a man who got fucked by another man or something, I'd agree with you on this point. Sexual past, sexual preferences, sexual wants... they are very imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:06 PM
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I scrolled through the comments section of this thread, not a single man said this. You're the one making things up. You can go 'nuh uh' all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:04 PM
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The only people who have said this are all women projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:55 PM
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There’s plenty of men who wouldn’t be with a bisexual women for cultural and religious reasons. And these reasons are homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:54 PM
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Ariel is the worst disney princess. She summoned satan to get what she wanted and then had Prince Eric 1v1 fucking satan based off a TOTALLY FAIR DEAL Ursala made for her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:32 PM
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I go on a nice walk in a cute outfit and go to a boba shop, then go to the beach just to argue on ppd. You can do both!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:31 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't do that. If she wants sex on the same day she can be the one to initiate that. I don't even want to be with a woman who wants me to initiate after denying me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:12 PM
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The second time. Then it seems like we have a similar barometer for when things get uncomfortable for us. they absolutely know women enthusiastically consent to sex even if they haven't experienced it themselves How would they know what that looks like? Don't say porn. it is disturbing that they see women reluctantly or begrudgingly consenting to sex as acceptable because they got laid. I agree. It is bad and they should be corrected before they harm someone. I just don't think the way you state…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:41 PM
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I know no one asked me too. That’s the almost the same reason I broke up with my partner at that time. And “asking for sex was becoming coercive” how many times did you ask before you felt that way? You asked me why men will accept lukewarm women and I answered that they don’t know anything else. That’s the answer imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:23 PM
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The idea is that "coercing a woman into sex" should be an intolerable potential outcome for anyone, while "not having sex" is a perfectly acceptable potential outcome for anyone. I agree with you. I believe I'm hyper aware to this to the point it is detrimental to my dating success. However, I refuse to be romantically involved in an asexual relationship- I've dealt with it once and I have absolutely zero interest in putting myself through that again. I also like to date adults, so someone unabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:51 PM
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I believe in manifestation unironically, but the way I think about it is less 'the universe shall provide' and more 'you are priming your brain to notice and jump for the opportunities that point you in the path you have set' sort of situation. Kinda in the same way I believe in luck. Does that count as spiritual?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:44 PM
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I understand that, but the lack of nuance in the original post is why I felt compelled to argue with it and why I'm scrolling up and down this thread providing a, imo, fairly common experience for men who want sex fairly early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:39 PM
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No issue!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:34 PM
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<image> I'm not even persuading. I don't try to convince. I ask. And if you can point to any part of my comment that could imply a threat in any way, I'd love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:32 PM
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There has only been one time I asked a girl if she wanted to have sex and she said no where I asked her again. I tried to see if she wanted to have sex on the 4th date, and she said she wasn't ready. I said that was fine, and continued to date her for another month. I asked if she would be more open to it, and she said she still wasn't ready. I did not ask for another 3 months, hoping she would it up herself, and dropped her when I figured nothing was going to happen. My regret is that I did not…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:22 PM
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I'm not playing a game with you. I said a portion of women feel one way. You have just now said 'Lots of women find men repeatedly asking for sex to be coercive.' And I think that greatly helps my argument. Some women act the way I said before, some women act the way you are saying now. What does that mean? It means that women are different, and you can't approach all of them with the same stock responses and practices. I feel like the blue pill(I won't blame you specifically, but I'm almost sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:13 PM
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Great, I read it over, seems like the definition agrees with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:08 PM
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Hey that's fair! Everyone has their rules and limits dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:02 PM
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Lots of women When women We said different things, though? Lots of women does not imply all women or even most women like your lack of qualifier does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:02 PM
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I want to have sex fairly early, so I am used to a 'I am not ready yet". Since my entire aim in a relationship is not sex I am content to wait a bit longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:00 PM
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When women want to fuck you, they're not shy about it. Women are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:57 PM
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You won't be able to convince me that asking more than a single time is coercion. There are plenty of examples of women who said no one day, and then when asked a month later have a genuine yes. Lots of women want to have sex and do not make a single movement in that direction, because it is 'men's work.' Personally, I have about 2 asks in me before I will drop someone. But asking once and then asking again at a later date is not weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:53 PM
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I ghosted a girl when I broke my jaw and when I healed I kinda feel bad that I never texted her back
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:05 PM
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I need to hurry up and get a gf before I'm 30 then. I'm allergic to pets and I've never had an animal in the home so I don't like it😔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:01 PM
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It's pretty bad in average-land. Even if you get a match they won't answer you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:00 PM
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Right but even if that’s the case, the current situation is that they have no reason to date down. If the state of the world changes so will be my answer, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:40 PM
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Relationships are optional, unlike employment. There is no incentive for a woman to date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:42 PM
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If I was missing one of the other two I would not make a peep about not having a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:32 PM
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The logic is that if they don't want to and are fine with the results of that there is nothing you or I can do about that. If you or I don't want to take the risk to pester every woman we see into dating us we don't have to do that either, but expect the man who does the birdshot approach to eventually land on one girl who wants to date but does not want to take any action to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:26 PM
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Nobody actually believes in equal dynamics between men and women. If that were the case, men who want equal dynamics would be trying to figure out a way for the male body to gestate and birth children, but so far men do not want this. Hmmmmm lol. I mean. I feel like it's not an uncommon opinion to want the option to have children without anyone having to carry the baby to term, right? I'd love a test tube baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:23 PM
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Hinge just added a new feature to tell you what type of people you've been liking lately. The keywords it says I have been liking are Easygoing, playful, social partner, beachgoer, clear about dating, experience-seeking, shares music, red hair, and friend first. Honestly most of this makes sense to me. I wonder if the beach goer one is just because most people have a beach picture in a beach city. What sort of surprised me is the red hair one- I don't think I have a preference for red hair, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:11 PM
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Maybe I should change my profile to 4 pictures of me staring directly at the camera to see if my match ratio gets better or worse
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:05 PM
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Sure. I think "What do you bring to the table" is a very charged phrase- but it doesn't mean that's all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:25 PM
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I would say so!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:14 PM
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Just by being a presence I can be comfortable and myself around is doing 'enough'. When you vent to someone to have a shoulder to cry on they aren't doing anything but listening, but I would argue that being a safe person to do that with is quality worth highlighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:09 PM
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When I say peace I personally mean that she doesn't make me constantly anxious that I'm doing something wrong and always critical of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:02 PM
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What do you think women bring to the table I think when some people use the phrase 'What do you bring to the table' they respond with things like cooking or cleaning or being able to manage a home. I am not interested in that work from a woman nor am I exactly excited to be with a girl who thinks her function in a relationship is that. We are both adults and can handle that stuff ourselves imo. The reason I want to have a partner is because I want a friend and lover I can spend life with. and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:00 PM
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Interesting. I don’t think it’s morally wrong to want to have sex with other people, but I do think it’s wrong to fantasize about people who haven’t consented to it. I realize it’s a an unpopular opinion but it’s not like I’m stopping someone else from doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:45 PM
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Being bigoted is worse than mediocre AND they are self admitted bad friends :/ When someone says something really weird and crazy and happen to have a partner I decide they’re like these people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:44 PM
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This correlates with the actual surveys of Gen Z men, though. That’s literally the same percentage. Just thought that was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:37 PM
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Still! Definitely a level of having to prove yourself that curly haired white boys don’t have to. Add it to the list of struggles for a sensitive young man 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:11 PM
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I know you’re black haha— I don’t know if you’ve seen it going around but a lot of black men my age are #noticing that when girls say golden retrievers they’re talking about a specific color more often than not….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:53 PM
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I'm the exact same way. I really need to know a girl is attracted to me to go for it offline. At least on a dating app a match lets me know this woman is interested. I'm a good first date, but I am not a good first meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:28 PM
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Me when I'm short AVERAGE and thin 😔 I have no idea who Jameis is but I looked up the name and assuming we are looking at the same guy I see it. He has expressive eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:20 PM
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It's too bad for me that the golden retriever type isn't for black people I'd have that niche down pact 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:10 PM
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A lot of men won't reject you, but they will absolutely be disgusted and make sure you're punished for it and ir never let you forget it. And it's not super obvious until their true thoughts come out in a heated argument or something You are dealing with literally crazy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:06 PM
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I like you 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:43 PM
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Even if I granted you that, which I’m not, they have a relationship outside of the bounds of normal courtship. You’re not supposed to sleep with other people in a relationship but they communicated that and made it different— any other relationship defining terms should be laid out similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:12 AM
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They really should have spoken very clearly about what each of them want if they’re going to have such an off the beaten path relationship. This is the kind of relationship where everything needs to be communicated, and she had a desire she did not communicate. Do you think the man should have read her mind and think when she didn’t bring it up she secretly wanted a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:50 PM
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I think she’s very pretty!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:53 PM
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If I can think of a good reason I will. I have dnd tonight so I can mention it to dnd girl but the other ones I don't have an easy way to slide back in other than a blunt "hello?" which I don't want to do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:59 PM
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I posted a picture as an example of me getting ghosted like this. I addressed wat she said and asked a direct question. Other examples is me telling a girl I was going to be gone for an hour, and then after an hour texting her back and answering her questions and following up with 2 questions of my own. Another is us chopping it up about dnd, she was talking about how she does voices and I made a joke- I guess that's not something easy to respond to, but it seemed like we had a good back and for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:58 PM
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fr 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:05 PM
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I’m doing my best. I’m trying to have abs by October— my stomach is getting more defined and I can start to tell. I have a face and skin routine, hair care routine, and work out routine. Once I get my eating together hopefully I’ll be hot enough to talk about street fighter on first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:21 PM
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Honestly I’m not a stickler about it. But my supervisor absolutely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:17 PM
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:| I have some bad news
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:14 PM
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I’m definitely not that guy 😭 I just want to find a girl as enthusiastic about finding someone compatible as me. Like yea yea yea I get that or whatever but doesn’t anyone want to talk music or dungeons and dragons(they put it on their profile!!!!) for 30 irl minutes before I ask you to come to a board game cafe with me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:14 PM
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I have noooo idea why he did that considering teams is the EASIEST way to contact someone and provide small files. Why would you call into the office to call my extension when you can just hop on teams I will never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:13 PM
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I took a number and my number is 1! I’m the IT guy if I’m texting you it’s because it’s important!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:11 PM
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I am chad I proclaim it so 😠
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:08 PM
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Maybe? Most of the things I'm complaining about are because of an abrupt lack of reply while we are both present and typing. if we are send carrier pigeons back and forth every day I'd get it more, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:08 PM
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I gotta get work done! I don't use teams messages to hang out or send memes!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:06 PM
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My supervisor muted me on teams. So I started sending him shit exclusively on teams. If you’re not gonna check when I ask you things, fuck you, you can be lost and mad when you can’t find the files I gave you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:05 PM
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Yes I know— I was just thinking out loud. And maybe? But I don’t swipe on people who don’t want what I want. I pay attention to profiles. It’s ok if they don’t find me interesting but I don’t think I’m being boring either. I don’t really feel like making an Imgur link so have one sc from my phone of the Most recent one. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:04 PM
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I do have female friends and I have showed them my texts and they don’t know what’s up either. Not this series of texts but other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:03 PM
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With teams messages I don't care. If you don't see something in 2 hrs you're getting an email and if I don't get an email back by the end of the day I'm knocking on your office door :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:59 PM
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If I said something that made me think I said something off I would agree with you. I am literally just talking to them like people and it's not like I'm beading around the bush for weeks. I literally just want to get an idea of her personality and how our interests align before I ask her out. If the girls texted me back say, once every hour, I would have enough info to ask her out the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:53 PM
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Oh, sorry. Forgot to answer that. The woman I'm currently talking about we spoke yesterday at around 8am and she hasn't responded. Another girl was saturday the 11th, and the other was the 7th. The girl from the 7th is the only one that I have a natural lead in for. I've gone on quite a few dating app first dates. I believe women when they say no one wants to take them out because holy shit is it like pulling teeth to get to the point where a date offer would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:49 PM
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I guess I can text this one girl. The thing we were talking about is happening tonight. But I don't want to have to do that. I wish I was worth remembering to text back. :\
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:47 PM
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What does an exclusive kink/open relationship mean? I have no idea how open and exclusive interact there, lol. Still though, this is on her for not communicating her needs in my opinion. I firmly believe that if this had happened to me I would know to suck it up, because I just made assumptions. I used to have a problem making covert contracts in my head and being mad when people didn't do what I wanted. But as the saying goes, closed mouths don't get fed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:46 PM
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I mean we will be having a nice conversation or something, we will share an interest or something and then she just does not reply. Like, mid conversation when it's her turn to reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:43 PM
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If a girl texts you on hinge you text back and then she doesn't answer are you supposed to double text or what? I'm literally only considering this because the last 4 women I have spoken to on dating apps have abruptly stopped responding mid conversation. like wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:38 PM
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Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? Yes. And let her think otherwise? No. Recently, a man posted that he was in a year long relationship with a woman. To him, this relationship was just for fun and for casual sex. She understood otherwise because she met his family, they cooked together, etc. So she made up in their head they were in a relationship and forgot to tell him? She felt that because they cooked for each other and were meetin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:24 PM
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The fact that you consider yourself the cop in this analogy is super telling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:39 PM
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I don't think boys should be militarized and(likely) not taught to feel their feelings other than anger for them to be better employees, no. I think it's much more likely that a lot of these young people have no hope for their futures, so why try now? I really feel like I got out of nam in the last copter graduating in '21.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:37 PM
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I'd be cool with that. It sounds fun to be able to swap your parts if you wanted, and gender roles have never been something I've been interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:19 PM
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Looked for a meme for this but I ended up seeing poms and getting hungry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:30 AM
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I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. I think I'm very sweet and kind, but that's only because that's what I hear from other people. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:30 AM
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But a perfect blueberry is perfect 🤤
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:29 AM
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I had a great mental reset this weekend, I'm feeling a lot better. on the other hand, I finally did my hinge data thing. Should I post it? I wonder how bad/good it is compared to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:13 AM
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Blueberries are my favorite fruit :) That and pomegranate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:12 AM
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People should put their age in their flairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:41 PM
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The last time I dated someone for more than a month she wasn't flakey but she was very mentally unwell. I think I do attract a lot of flakes but it could be more dating apps than their nature. However, I think that's something i'm cognizant of and try not to fall for those same attraction markers my ex had that correlate to that sort of stuff. I think I match with some very pleasant, normal women- but they don't get off the texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:11 PM
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I agree, logically. Every time I match with someone it's a new roll of the dice, and women do not owe me anything. I can only pull the slot machine so many times though. I understand that any individual girl I match with does not owe me her time, but when no one is treating your time as worth considering it gets hard to keep it pushing with a smile. My feelings on it is less 'These girls should answer me' and more 'If I am as attractive and as good of a prospect as I think of myself as, you'd th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:59 PM
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If the bar is in hell I am very perplexed with how hard it is to clear, I think. I am very actively trying to court, which is what I hear constantly men aren't doing. I can't understand why I have a worse love life than men telling women to show up at their house at 1 am. There must be a vibe I'm giving off, or a way I speak, or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:51 PM
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Hmm. I agree with almost everything, but I would argue that 'Acting in more attractive ways' if that isn't who you are is still just trying to get girls who don't like you to like you. I've been considering writing a main debate thread post about it, but I'm not sure how to word it without making some bannable conclusions I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:48 PM
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I guess if it was easy it would have already been done before, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:40 PM
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It's more that I went from "This is never going to happen and you should stop caring about it" to "Wait this might happen" which was a mistake. I felt a lot better when I was accepting that I would no longer put any energy into trying to date. But then I went and started to try again, and I think that was a mistake because it undid a lot of progress emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:13 PM
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I watched this video and a few more. I think I'm good at saying these things out loud, and sometimes it works, and sometimes it really doesn't. I don't think how I'm feeling now is permanent, but I also don't think I'm very good at making this stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:11 PM
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I guess the closes thing is a dating coach but they aren't really doing the dating properly. Exactly. I think I do a good job on dates, but the women I take on dates don't tell me what I did wrong. And I can only report on how I feel and how I think the vibe is. I've talked to my friends and my therapist about dating issues but since it's all self reported it's hard to even trust my own truth. And a "trial partner" could be incredibly dangerous again. Especially for a woman. Thats why robots wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:02 PM
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Why are you talking to me like this if we are saying the same thing literally leave me alone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:58 PM
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Yeah, I was being reductive when I said that. I just don't have the energy to make a mental map of what the whole hour would look like. Ultimately, I think the triggers that are hurting me is that I allowed myself to feel hopeful about my dating situation and I think I was feeling good before because I let go of hope temporarily. But then that'll spiral into something else...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:50 PM
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This might sound bad? But I feel like I already know how the conversation is going to go in my head. They're gonna say something about how I am enough and I will agree, but knowing something intellectually and your brain randomly critting you with pain signals is just something I can't control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:43 PM
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I mean, I know the reason. The reason is because I feel undesirable and it's cutting through like a knife. But nothing's happened. I was just as undesirable last week and I was having a great week. This week I change nothing and my mood has fallen off a cliff? It doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:35 PM
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I have searched online quite a few times to see if I could pay someone to go on a date with me and then get a report card at the end. I can't find a service that does that, and I don't really feel comfortable hiring an escort even for non sexual services.(plus tbh it's expensive!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:33 PM
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I'd honestly argue that the entire ethos of red pill is trying to convince women who aren't into you to be into you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:29 PM
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As a guy who sensed pulling away and tried to redouble my efforts it is a total waste of time, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:28 PM
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It just feels like I have nothing to say. I have stuff to talk about and even though this week has been really bad it hasn't been bad for a reason you know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:14 PM
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Really all of the experience men need is just having some female friends and talking to women. I don't think this is true. The way women treat men they are attracted to and men they are friends with are not the same at all. Though, I agree that the starter girlfriend thing isn't morally right nor something I think is even possible. He may not be able to attract one of those friends, but at least he will learn how to talk to women and to understand how their minds are different than men's. I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:13 PM
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...Is it bad that I think this would have really been helpful for me? I wish I could get actionable feedback on how I appear on dates- even if I was barred from dating real people until I passed the robot, I don't feel like that would bother me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:09 PM
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I've had many people to ask me to join many discords and I have zero interest in getting any further in the ppdverse. It's not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:39 PM
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I wonder if I should talk to my therapist this session about me crashing out so hard and the depressive spiral ive been in. I feel a little guilty because I have been having such a good streak and I've been taking my medicine but I dunno, I'm not as anxious anymore so it's doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:38 PM
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I think you are correct, but like you said, women don't want to do this(and they shouldn't have to). I've seen this play out a thousand times because I was a nerd surrounded by nerds. I would see the annoying dude somehow find a gf and become a normal person the instant he was given female attention. It's actually kinda impressive how visible the 180 is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:36 PM
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I live in IL. I might look this up- I'm interested. Housing is out of control in chicago, but it's a lot more tame than pretty much any other big city in the country- and I still had to move out of my apartment because it's gotten too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:27 PM
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aren't height surgeries one of the most riskiest surgeries you can get in terms of the percentage you may die during or from complications after? Yes. Even if the surgery goes off without a hitch you are never supposed to run or jump again. I wanted to at least give her the consideration of BBLs or something. I think they look disgusting, but some men do like them and some women do get them for male attention. I think those have something like a 40% death rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:43 PM
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This place is awful and everyone is mean I don't doubt why it's dead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:25 PM
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Being offended is an emotion? Doing something offensive is an action. You’re talking about emotions I’m not. "Men gotta stop getting offended because woman don’t want them." I am sorry if I misunderstood the arguments in the body. But the title could only be about emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:25 PM
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Quick question: Why do people who make similar arguments like you think there is any sort of 'comeuppance' going on? A large subsection of this subreddit did not even exist in the 80s-90s. If the world were to flip around once more, would I be justified in making fun of the girls born in 20-30s and saying "You're just getting a taste of what it was like to be a man in 2026? That seems insane to me because the people being complained about and the people suffering the consequences are two differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:23 PM
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Offense and bitterness are not behaviors nor are the words, though. How I feel only manifests as harshly as you allow- at least as long as you're aware of the emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:15 PM
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Do I have typos? Let me try to explain it a different way: I think undermining sexual abuse that women have faced as a man is wrong. However, I do believe that the emotion- bitterness- is not something someone can control. I do think you can eliminate the emotion 'offense' however, as each individual woman does not owe you anything. Bitterness, to me, is an emotion that comes gradually due to your material conditions not matching your desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:09 PM
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I guess I agree, then. Just not for the reasons presented in your text body. Especially when the men get bitter where they undermine sexual abuse and make certain issues a competition. I think undermining sexual abuse is wrong, however you I don't think avoiding some level of bitterness is possible. I think eliminating offense towards a particular person is possible, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:03 PM
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What are you arguing? What does offended mean here? I've read your text body, but I don't know what it has to do for offense. Why would women separate from yourself being judged make you feel less bad about the fact that you're judged, too? I guess under my interpterion of the word offended, I agree that men shouldn't be offended because it's a useless emotion. But that's because it doesn't get you any closer to your goal, not because I think women have it hard in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:58 PM
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This makes the Beta seem nice. I like being support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:29 PM
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Like I said above- I was recovering from jaw surgery. I got it done, I had a diet of all liquids for 6 weeks. I tried to bite a piece of pizza and the bone was still too weak, and it snapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:39 PM
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It wasn’t intentional. I bit down on something and my jaw popped and fractured.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:31 PM
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I suppose what life was trying to tell me is not to try to eat something I was supposedly allowed to eat 2 weeks after surgery. I even waited an extra 4 days to be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:55 PM
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To me, pain is NOT neutral. I avoid pain! I choose happiness 24/7. I do my best to avoid pain but there's nothing to do after it's already happened. A few months ago I broke my jaw. It sort of sucked. But while the pain radiated really badly, ultimately there was just nothing I could do about it. You can just accept something is going to be painful- thats sort of how I see my desires at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:48 PM
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The only time that mind over matter works is if you take it to a positive place... Well, that's not true. The reason to go to therapy is because negative thoughts cause negative realities, right? If I were you I would really just start to accept what is (because it might actually take you to a good place)... I try to react to this information and these feeling neutrally. Pain is neutral. Having a cut hurts, but ultimately it just exists. It's neutral. Approaching loneliness from that angle does …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:30 PM
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That's because it's literally a built in male urge... And for some people it is nothing but a burden. Some men are willing/able to will their body into not having these urges, but most men (99.x%) cannot do this...and they should not try to either. I agree with you that while some men can, most men won't and couldn't. But if I could take a pill to neutralize my desire for a relationship I absolutely would.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:12 PM
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It's probably the most apt comparison I can think of. Just like cigarettes the pain doesn't go away it just gets easier to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:43 PM
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They just shouldn't obsess over it. As much as people like to say 'Just reset your mind bro' unfortunately at least for some people relationships and sexual urges cannot be prayed away. Have you ever smoked or anything? I would compare the way my body desires sex and relationships to an addiction to nicotine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:37 PM
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I suppose. Something is better than nothing. But it being something doesn't make it sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:35 PM
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Oh! I thought I mentioned it. I flipped over a bike last month on a trail, and bashed my chest pretty hard. It doesn't hurt at rest anymore, but it seems like putting pressure on it causes it to hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:34 PM
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I can't do pushups currently, or any chest exercises. I can do the first rep but afterward the pain gets a little too intense, lol. I think I am getting better though! I do feel good when I'm able to do do my little walks after work and a workout before bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:31 PM
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For some men? Maybe. But no, this would not be sufficient for me. I've lived with a male roommate who is my best friend of over 10 years. It is not the same, similar, or close to a romantic relationship, even though I care about him immensely. I've cooked for him, watched movies on the couch together, talked until the sun came up, all sorts of things. But romance and romantic attraction feels completely different to the emotion I get from my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:28 PM
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My roommate has been trying to get me to do yoga with her. My chest is starting to feel better, so hopefully I can really work out soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:25 PM
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I can't anything fun to argue here so I'm baiting on dnd subreddits for some interaction now, instead of doing work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:20 PM
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It's really bad, at least where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:03 PM
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Extremely real
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:21 PM
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Because being a jester is an insult, not a prescriptive term. This is something men see other men do and tell them they are jestering, because some women will treat him like a pet. Anyone describing themselves as a jester would be similar as someone describing themselves as a white knight- that's just not a proper term to use descriptively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:08 PM
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I cook, I write, I play dnd, play video games, and like anime. I'm pretty good at street fighter :] I only use this subreddit when I have no romantic interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:04 PM
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No. Imagine that jestering is being a class clown for 1 woman who does not like you. Or at least doesn't like you enough to give you the time of day. If the girl likes you you aren't jestering.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:02 PM
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I absoluetly love sushi, but there is a cap on how good it can taste per dollar. There is only so much you can do to make a raw fish taste better than any other raw fish- an upper mid tier sushi place likely is sourcing the same fish as the Michelin star sushi place. I don't most things they stuff in maki, so the quality of the maki is not very interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:32 PM
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As a naturally submissive man, you must decide if you value your submissiveness more than the ability to find a partner. There are plenty of kind, intelligent, lovely women that will be repulsed by your sexual desire- I've personally decided that it's not something worth selecting for, because it will hamstring my options so harshly it wouldn't be worth it. I personally like to use headtricks on myself and refer to myself as a 'service top'. I love being ordered around, tugged, moved and used li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:29 PM
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My pictures are in my profile. I am not yet happy with my hair but I think I take care of myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:21 PM
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I think an unhappy life is a strong word. I don't know if I would say that I lived my life without a partner I would call it miserable- but I would say my happiness would be capped. As in, I can work very hard but my life happiness will only ever cap out at a 7. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:21 PM
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All fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:53 AM
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The only thing I have control over is myself and my choices. I can lie to you and tell you that the things I have accomplished feel anywhere similar to the feeling of loving someone and making someone feel loved. Regardless, you’re right, I don’t think anyone’s brain can deal with endless torture. I plan to try my absolute hardest for the next 8 years. If I can’t get it done by then I’ll be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:01 PM
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I know what you mean. Like I said, I have been taking Wellbutrin for a few months. A girl ghosted me last month and my friends said I took it much better than I would have previously. So maybe it’s working.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:40 PM
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Attractively dressed? I’m not sure what you mean by that. I desire a romantic relationship and I also desire sex. For some people that is linked and it happens to not be for me. I don’t need to love the people I have sex with, I just need to like them as people— the same way I would feel about inviting a friend on a 1 on 1 hang out is about the emotional safety it needs for me to have sex. And separately from that, I have the life goal of being a father, and badly want to love someone and choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:36 PM
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Honestly? If she was kind to me and treated me like a friend, that is enough that I would not complain. I don’t need someone to be in love with me but i would like them to be in like with me. It is not my optimal— but I think the emotional aspects of loneliness I am currently able to 80% supplement. It hurts having no one ‘choose you’ first, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:21 PM
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I don't think I am hostile towards the people- I feel like that anger manifest as self hatred or something rather than it being about the person. My feelings are not "Why does he deserve this" my feelings are "Why is it that've done what this guy has done and more and he's happy and I'm not? I dont understand what I'm doing wrong" if that makes sense. you just have anxiety and insecurities which produce a synergistic effect I have insecurities about being unattractive. I would like to hope that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:42 PM
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You are aro/ace and do not understand the lived experience allistic people. That is fine, but we have different experiences of the world, and how our hormones inform us of the world. So why be so upset? Why isn't having friends enough? I crave having someone to share a life with. Someone who is my confidant and my hers- someone to kiss, and touch. Someone to give love to, generally. And yes, I am an adult(allo) man and my body craves sex. Without me trying to prompt it I feel a deep burning for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:25 PM
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Do you think that those couples have something specific you might want or is it just because they have succeeded in finding each other? I try not to feel jealous often. But in this case I do think feel immense jealousy against the man, because he happened to find a girl that was willing to at least give him a shot and was invested at least on some level. I think if I was constantly fumbling dates, I wouldn't feel this way. I honestly don't feel any sense of anger unless the man in the relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:12 PM
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I've been taking anti anxiety meds for a while. I think they do help and this doesn't feel like anxiety. Maybe you want something and you’re afraid of going towards it I guess I should have been more specific- this is dating content focused. I just hate, even accidently reading a success story, it fills me with so much hatred. It's probably self hatred, not towards the couple. I keep asking myself- what am I doing wrong that I cant get there, when clearly everyone else seems to do so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:02 PM
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I think I'm having that issue again that positive posts inspire a lot of hatred and anger out of me. It flares up really hard and typically I need to close the tab and find something to do. Does anyone know why that can happen? I sometimes find myself searching for doomposting because it feels reassuring to know people are in the same boat as me. I feel sort of bad for this feeling, and I'm wondering if anyone else has been able to identify with this feeling or if you relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:21 PM
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live your life in a way that makes you happy and fulfulled, A happy and fulfilled life to me is one with a partner. So living my life in a way that makes me happy and fulfilled includes me looking for a partner. If I didn't want a partner, I would be happy- so I don't understand why it's hard for you to understand. If I was happy to be single, I wouldn't ever date or interact with women in any way that was not platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:15 PM
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I guess I just have different opinions on sex and sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:03 PM
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If someone doesn't want to have sex with you then the answer is no. If it's about their hygiene, they have 2 options. Correct the problem she's addressing, or find someone who doesn't see it as a problem. If it's about desire/ideal frequency, you have 2 options. Decide you can live with the rules set by the other partner, or leave. In either case, arguing or trying to plead you case will do nothing except make your partner fear you won't respect their no. So- it's better to just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:02 PM
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Oh! I guess I thought you meant this through a more malicious lens. It's just advertising.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:58 PM
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Yes so why do men act like we owe them sex when so many struggle with basic hygiene? How does this correlate to what I typed? I don't mind what hygiene preferences women have. The only thing I spoke about is what I care about. I also don't care about (clean) clothes around the room, as long as she doesn't mind me stepping on them. But to answer your question, no one owes sex to anyone for any reason ever. There is nothing you can do, say, purchase, or work on that would lead to someone owing you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:55 PM
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“Wordlessly”? Yes. I think I've seen enough evidence to conclude that if you are unhappy with the cadence of sex as a man it's important that you do not talk about it. Just leave if you're able to. Of course you lose attraction. Hygiene is very important. It’s amazing how men get so defensive about this. Personally? I read through this list. The wall stains, sheets, and the toilet situation would be a turn off for me. The rest you would have to pay me to pretend to care about. Regardless though,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:49 PM
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I dunno. I think you'd get better ROI just posting your links online compared to handing out business cards and QR codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:46 PM
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Honestly, I don't think it is- I think women just have to be extremely strict when searching for a sexual partner. But, I'll defer to what you say. Do you think it would take longer than a week? I would spend the money he asked for gas with on tinder gold, pop one boost, look through who likes you, and then pick a man to have him take you out and clearly say if he keeps good entertaining conversation on the date then you'd be interested in going home with him. I really do think that would work a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:44 PM
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Right- if the man and woman are not aligned on this, it's best for the man to wordlessly break up with the woman to avoid this scenario.,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:42 PM
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How do you profit off of wearing a cosplay at a convention? No one gives you money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:35 PM
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Stop seeing him. There is zero incentive to do this or ever see this man again. You can block him and find another person before the end of the work day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:34 PM
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If I can be honest? I really like it. I would prefer that women that want nothing to do with me make that abundantly clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:23 PM
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Fwiw I have had that happen to me too. I have had women I met that same day say stuff like this to me. My thought is that it's intended to shut down any romantic ideal quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:18 PM
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It might be my location, of all the female friends(ranging from 18-27 as women as passed in and out of my life) I know, only 2 of them haven't had casual sex. And I've talked to many groups about our dating lives, struggles, and expectations. Among them, 1 is hyper religious and married her catholic partner the day after her graduation, and the other is demi sexual and has some serious hangups about sex. I actually know much less men that have had casual sex than women. Some of that might be sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:16 PM
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Then I suppose I do have emotional sex! What I was attempting to say is that I don't feel a sense of deep, special intimacy that other people seem to describe when they describe sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:56 PM
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Ah- I suppose by emotional I was thinking intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:36 PM
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I think I’m fairly pretty as it stands! I do a lot to keep my skin and hair up to snuff, eat right, dress nice, etc etc. this body type is what I’m gunning for. I’m close, I just need more larger arms like this guy. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:34 PM
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I have fun! And the other person does too. But I don’t feel an outpouring of emotion other than desire. I keep myself pretty constrained in day to day life so sex is where I let loose— the other party seems like they’re having a good time and that’s what is important to me. I just dont feel… anything else? Other than “I really like this person and I am having a lot of fun!” I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:30 PM
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Sorry to say this, but this means that women are not going to enjoy having sex with you. Sex without emotions is cold, like an exercise. Only sex with emotions has the potential to be hot. I have had nothing but glowing reviews from people I have had sex with. I worked hard at learning how to have good sex and am good at pleasing women mechanically, at least from what people are willing to tell me. If you want deep, emotional sex, I can attempt to mimic it but I probably won't be great. If you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:24 PM
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I'm naturally a slim guy. I think I can pull off a more elven look at least for now, if I can just bulk up by maybe 10 or so pounds. Every time I get close to my goal I end up getting sick as fuck and losing all the weight... Would you consider yourself in-touch with your feminine side? Or just masculine in a more reserved sense that comes off less outwardly dominant? Probably the former. I've always had more girl than boy friends growing up. I love talking about feelings and nurturing group dyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:17 PM
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You didn't talk about women's issues, you talked about porn addiction and how it manifests in the minds of men. I countered by saying it's an issue with individuals, and used fiction and delirium some people have from fiction as an example. That was even me agreeing with you that these men exist. Just that they are crazy people and it is an easy problem to solve for anyone invested in solving the problem. Hell, even by acknowledging that it can be an issue you are much less likely to exhibit the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:12 PM
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To be clear: My Opinion is that fiction!=reality and your opinion is that I have a porn addiction... because I emphatically stated that I know that porn is not real life and do not treat women like they're porn stars. I just want to make it very clear me(and the girl reading this 🥰) that that is the case. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:59 PM
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Did you decide to look away and talk to the camera in the middle of the conversation like it's The Office? Okay. I'll do it too. Dear reader, you and the adults around you have a responsibility to discern real life from screens. A porn actress is just that, an actress- because porn is not real life. Recognizing that porn is a medium meant to entertain men should be enough to know it's not reality, but continue to experience women in multiple facets- women in movies, books, stories, and even in r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:55 PM
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saying “I want a relationship and I’m willing to do the work” is still decentering women. Mm. I guess I don't see how this statement makes sense. If I spent as much time trying to do anything else as much as I attempt to be an attractive option(that's probably a better statement than 'be attractive to women') I would say I was centering it. “I’ll do anything a woman wants in order to get a relationship” is woman centered. You are aligning yourself with who another person wants you to be. If I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:47 PM
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If you see something frequently, it can change your mind. Sure, but if you allow that to happen to yourself you do not have the brain of an adult. I suppose I could lock myself into a room and watch conservative brainrot videos until I start reciting the 14 words, but part of being an adult is being open to a wholistic and diverse reality. Many men say they don't consume anything from women other than porn. You see women 9 times out of 10 only in a sexual manner, you will likely see women as tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:41 PM
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You didn't reply to my point. I thought I did. You are the one that brought up representation so I told you how I feel about it. People wouldn't love characters, people wouldn't hate characters, people wouldn't cry when they see a character dying. You also woudn't relate to any of them. Why would something have to be real to make you feel? You can feel for a story and characters while also knowing that they don't exist. That's why you can love villains even when they do horrible things. That's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:29 PM
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The third one was a callback to the first answer. The joke is that I'm saying people foaming at the mouth at 'woke' have the brains and emotional intelligence of children. At the second one, what I intended by that statement was to say that I only care about representation in media when it comes to children. Then again when I was a little (black) boy the characters I related to were Tails, Cody(from zack and cody) and Mordecai from regular show. I don't think any of those guys looked like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:19 PM
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No- who said it was a problem? It just 'is'. The worst you are going to get out of me is self-loathing when my work bares no fruit. It goes in phases and you can work your brain into shutting up about it. At least I can. The alternative is to not try, and end up worse off. I find it's useless as a mental reset too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:16 PM
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Real porn is not fiction, you're watching someone who may didn't even consent on having sex but got trafficked. I can reasonably assume that the porn I watch is ethically sourced. If not, they're doing a real bang up job of keeping up the facade. Real gore is not ficton, you're watching someone actually die on the screen, WAY different than horror movies. No ever consents to being murdered. Not the same argument at all. I dislike when people record other people in public without permission, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:10 PM
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It's fiction in the same way that a live action tv show is fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:54 PM
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Women don't force it on me. My own desires force it on me. I don't want to be a football player, but if I desired it I would also be forced to work out to get bigger. I don't think that needs any blame except upon myself for desiring something. Wanting to be attractive is normal, feeling forced into it is where the blame creeps back in. I force myself to do things I don't want to do to get things I want to get all the time. I don't see how this is any different and why failure would make me blam…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:52 PM
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you can search in 5 secs the issues it gives in one's mind Some people's minds. I dunno if it's due to my experience or what but I am pretty easily able to discern reality vs fiction. I can pretty confidently say I don't treat women like sex objects- I think people these days just have poorer discernment over fiction vs reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:50 PM
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I was groomed when I was about that age. I think porn is neat, but I don't partake in brazzers or anything produced like that, it's pretty boring. Why do you think it's gross? I guess I'll just never understand that feeling, I've never had thew feeling of 'ew' watching two people have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:38 PM
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I agree with the title but this was a terrible way to display your argument. Your example 2 has nothing to do with emotional support. Anyway- there are subreddits focused on male support if you're interested. A general chatting subreddit probably isn't the best place for a man to receive support.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:03 PM
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They may care about a person’s opinion. But not their opinion solely because of their gender. You're right. But in my case that person is a woman, with hosts of other traits. No one is a monolith, but there are certainly universal or near universal things you can do to stay attractive to the majority of the people you are interested in. I meant leveling up like what men say “get fit, make money, etc.” If I wasn't attracted to women I would be extremely content with my life. It's my attraction to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:59 PM
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‘stop being someone worth dating,’ That's not what I said. I said that I can't see how you could pursue a woman while decentering them. You must care at least a little about women's opinions if you are literally trying to get one to like you. What leveling up to you means something different than leveling up does to me. However, leveling up for women is probably closer to us having a similar ideal. Also means if I end up alone, I’ll be ok. Do you want to be alone? Or are you secure that you will…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:51 PM
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I want to provide structure and a strong home for children I will have within the marriage. If I can't have children I would have no desire to be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:47 PM
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(and a lot of them just become good-looking losers) But seriously. I think you're completely correct. (Now this is tricky because I also don’t think you should perform for women if it’s just not you; you already have to have some of that dawg in you to make this work) I mean I know you're saying this but there really isn't any other option if you want to actively find a partner. I am only hoping that all the looksmaxxing I'm doing can make me pretty enough that I don't have to pretend to be a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:42 PM
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Have you ever felt the need to elevate your sexuality to impress a woman? How did you up your game? Yes. I'm shy, skinny, soft spoken, and meek. I needed some kind of edge. I have read books on how to pleasure women, practiced tantric exercises, watched videos and guides on women's anatomy and what (generally) women like, how to work my fingers, how to adjust, thrusting angles, oral techniques, etc etc etc. Do you feel that your morals, norms, and behaviors around sex are attractive to women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:30 PM
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The people who don't eat veggies. I found out a guy I am acquaintances with hadn't had an orange until his girlfriend forced him at TWENTYFOUR YEARS OF AGE. I should have known he was a crimson red flag from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:22 PM
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I think many confuse decentering as avoiding. Many women that Decenter men still date men. The difference is they don’t put their life on hold or change their life for a mans approval. They make choices about what’s best for them not managing a man’s reaction. But this is something women are able to do because they are the selectors. I can't imagine what it would look like to no longer look for women's approval while also trying to continue to date women. If I do not go out of my way to be appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:19 PM
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I once had a guy tell me he does not eat any vegetables outside of aromatics (onion, garlic), and it made me lose interest. Too many people like this walk among us
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:14 PM
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Vaush is a bit weird sometimes The horse stuff is why I don't watch Vaush, yeah. young mens dating problems are downstream from general social issues, learn to socialize and make friends and dating will follow automatically. I guess I can only speak about myself but I've heard this 1000 times and it has not been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:11 PM
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I should note that Rigby was a great example of how relationships actually happen in Regular Show. But I guess I didn't learn anything from that since we had Elieen's prospective and got to see here real feelings about rigby before he moved. But also, I wasn't Rigby and never liked Rigby. He was impulsive and selfish and lazy, and a bad friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:07 PM
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Lol. I mean, the title is fairly corny, but not that corny. I'm at work now so I can't look up the exact name, but I think it's something like A Fucking Conversation,it's a series some guy has but I am only interested in the same 3 videos of the same 3 girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:37 PM
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If that's your message, you're directing it to the wrong people then, I think. None of the men arguing with you or Lilith believe you just have to be a special good boy to get a girlfriend anymore- this theme of debate she's been having has been people who at some point believed this but not anymore. If your argument is that once they figure this out they shouldn't complain about said bad advice, that's your right to complain about other people complaining. 🤷‍♂️ I can give you advice, and if it …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:31 PM
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it’s always better to say “I don’t know how to do that, can you show me?” vs just saying “Ok” and fucking it up and creating double the work and wasting time and money fixing it. Later on you say A lot of dating is “figure it out,” unfortunately. You have to find what works for you and what works on the specific woman you’re pursuing, and struggling guys don’t seem to like being told that, that there’s no “secret trick” to making that process easier. So... I don't understand your argument. Guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:37 PM
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No, I just thought it was really funny you did that. I left a proper response in the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:27 PM
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The media that most influenced how I thought about dating and relationships was likely Zack and Cody and suite life on deck. I always related to Cody in the original show, I was a lot like him as a boy. I still might be him. Suite life on deck was coming out as I got older and started to become interested in girls— I was always hoping to be a Cody, pining for one girl for the course of the show and then getting her at the end. Obviously that did not happen, but I was like 8-12 when I was watchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:02 PM
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No, because you dismissed the bugs life example with “First of all, he’s a bug”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:55 AM
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Have any of these creators posted dating stuff and actually had answers for people struggling to date? The only people in your list I’ve seen have that are FD Signifier and Destiny, and I can’t watch destiny anymore because he is a sex pest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:11 AM
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I have a good life but it literally is other people’s fault the wealth inequality in America is getting so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:03 AM
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If I find myself on a boat in the middle of the water in the first place I have made a very grave mistake and probably deserve whatever is about to happen to me anyway honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:23 AM
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Ok epic yeah I’m happy to give just about anything but my life I only have one of those 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:19 AM
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Yes, I agree— they shouldn’t joke about rape. Immaturity isn’t an excuse; it’s an explanation. And I think they should be punished for the way they act and should learn brutally that that language is not acceptable. That’s why asked to clarify children, not teens. Teens should understand the ramifications of rape because they’re old enough to understand those sorts of things. I feel differently because it’s a different developmental stage. Rape should be treated similar to murder wherein there s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:20 PM
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Ok? You clearly tried to insulate that the reason I wouldn’t care as much is because this is a problem I would never have to experience. The conversation I am having are about children who are boys. If you want to talk about rapists, talk about rapists. Anyway, I have nothing to do with any other man on this planet other than a gene I share with them. All I control are my actions and the company I keep. I don’t say violent things towards women as a group at all? And I would encourage you not to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:55 PM
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Do I think it's normal? No, I think it's immoral and should be punished. But, it is definitely a maturity thing if we are talking about children. When are talking about children, right? Children are not mature enough to recognize the gravity of rape- they are joking about something they know is bad but do not understand like you or I do. I'm not normalizing it, just saying that the reason they are joking about something terrible is because they are immature, not because they can't wait to do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:40 PM
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I'd be much, much more concerned if they were adults. Writing shit like that to be edgy is immature, and most people would be embarrassed if you confronted them with that. I'm not trying to 'boys will be boys' this, just that this is definitely a maturity thing rather than a 'these boys secretly harbor these dark thoughts and will enact them when they get older' thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:30 PM
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Yeah, Street fight 2 was such a poverty game that had no right going off as well as it did, lol. Guile is LITERALLY just the guy from Jojos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:23 PM
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I'm sure in the history of the world there have probably been even worse lists made. I don't think one instance is indicative of boys as a whole, but recognizing that there is a portion of gross, criminal, or stupid men isn't hard for me to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:21 PM
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Funny enough Juri was the one I checked because I wanted to know if her moves were in Korean, lol. And I mean it could be worse. You could have someone like Sim as your representation. Or blanka 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:09 PM
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I think I have enough capacity to be annoyed at both
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:05 PM
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If I can't handle it we will end up breaking up. If I can't handle it and she can handle me not masking then I'll be happy. If I don't mask I'll be alone and unhappy. There's only one option that has a chance of getting what I want. I go in phases where I don't mask, act just like myself, and see how the world handles that. It's an emphatic rejection romantically, but I still try because of cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:00 PM
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Lmao, I've actually never thought about it. But which characters speak their native language? I feel like only american characters get some japanglish in their japanese VOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:58 PM
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Yeah, I think misogynistic men are homophobic as well, generally. I don't hang out with people who are misogynist(at least, not around me).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:53 PM
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Have you seen the new street fighter girl? The one from the Philippines? Capgod has done it again...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:47 PM
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'yeah i'm kinda gay/bi" just b/c they'd fuck an attractive rebellious chick with short hair who says she's nonbinary and hates gender roles. I mean me, however I have been wokified on nonbinary and kind of get it now. My therapist being NB really made me understand and I would absolutely date an enby. I would honestly recommend it if they are actually interested in deconstructing gender roles, not just their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:43 PM
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I'm bag holding DRAM so fucking hard if it never comes back up you will see me on the news I don't think I'm gonna sector/stock pick for the rest of my life. I keep telling myself that if I can get my money back to neutral I will put it all in the snp and never look at a stock again
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:40 PM
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Yeah, maybe, lol. I meant things more like skincare, cosmetic surgeries and hair care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:39 PM
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I have money in superconductors and I just YOLO'd like 2k in to a biotech company that sunk to the bottom of the ocean today. That bounced back a bit but superconductors are still in the toilet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:36 PM
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The ability to actually know if a woman is interested. Women tend to not lie as much about what they are looking for in a relationship. Yes, there are gold diggers. But just don't spend money or a lot of money in the beginning and they are super easy to avoid Not going to argue the rest but women absolutely allow you to take them on dates while not being interested in you. Sometimes it's not malicious, sometimes they are attempting to give you a chance to interest them, but it absolutely happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:34 PM
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More pleasure during sex too. If you mean on average sure no argument, but aren't women's orgasms more intense than men's? You'd have better sex on average but the best sex would be worse for you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:32 PM
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That's true. I try to show off my domestic acumen early by doing a cooking date fairly quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:25 PM
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This was me reading the schizophrenia one' But seriously 1 and 2 should really give you pause man I've lost a few people to alcohol it's a dangerous road if you're feeling this way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:21 PM
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THIS HAPPENED TO ME This absolute alt leftist baddie said she liked my shirt on the way home from work. It was a band hoodie and I was like "Yo! You know this band?" And she was like "yeah I love them!" And then we talked about music for a bit. Then she started talking about racial justice which I fuck with, and I was nodding along but thought it was kinda weird we went from emo to black empowerment in 5 minutes but I was on board. Then she casually brushes her hair off her shoulder and she's we…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:19 PM
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Honestly it might be the bubble I'm in or the bubble you're in, but I openly talk about the beautification process I do to myself and no one's really calling me gay. I think in maybe the 6 years I've really started to care about my appearance I've gotten 1 or 2 gay jokes from my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:17 PM
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To be honest I just don't understand why you would deal with that though. I'm a 50/50 man(I'm actually an equity man) and I expect to do half the chores and handle the cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:12 PM
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I don't agree. I can only handle being alone romantically so long. I just want someone to love you know? It's hard to stay firm in isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:11 PM
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I do think it's useful to have a level of zen with the things outside of our control. I'm actually trying to become more delusional in my adult life. Being too pragmatic does not get me what I want- or rather, it gets me exactly what I expect. But that doesn't mean it's what I want. 'LOCK THE FUCK IN' culture has actually greatly improved my life. I mean... isn't that evidence that being a good person doesn't bring relationships? Your friends must've been decent, and they weren't dating. I wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:09 PM
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....Which iPad what model? I'd give her my old one for free >>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:37 PM
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Dude I completely understand where you're coming from but please block her number and take everyone else's advice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:36 PM
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There are too many factors, and too much individual variability. That's not a bad thing. It's just circumstance. I still don't agree! I agree that by percentage value the number might be small, but %1 of people in my city is nearly 27000 people. I just need one of those 27000, who are already predisposed to finding me, to find out about me. Maybe it's cope but hey it keeps me from getting sudden onset lead poisoning so hey 🥲 I'm glad. I would hope that the number of ppl looking to take advantage…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:33 PM
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I am happier not constraining myself to the bounds of masculinity. I like myself more, I show up as more authentic, I get complimented in public, and lead a better life. Being non masculine is a giant turnoff for women and if I want to go on a date I have to mask as a masculine man if I want to get the time of day from a straight woman. I would say Bi women are a 50/50 shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:24 PM
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As a man who is gender non confirming I only get dates if I pretend to be a masculine man and if the mask drops I get ghosted. I think you're in a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:09 PM
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I believe that it's likely for there to be a compatible person somewhere... But the implication isn't just that they exist, but that they'll be found, and interested, and it'll work out. So many circumstances have to line up that it's impossible to make any assumptions about that. Well, I don't believe in soul mates. I think that most people are compatible with a lot of people, even if each dynamic is not the same or similar. I personally think status is all about the amount of eyes on you if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:00 PM
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I really don’t care any more which is why I didn’t press it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:23 PM
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I am losing an unimaginable amount of money in the stock market so I'm back here because if I look at my account again I am going to vomit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:07 PM
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I've reported someone before and had nothing done. When people annoy me from now on I'm just going to tell them that I'm not interested in engaging with them anymore. If I get banned from ppd it's not going to be because of the stupid block rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:53 PM
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If you would hook up with random people but would not hook up with your boyfriend, who are you actually lying to: yourself or him? I am not compatible with the people who think this but many people feel that sex with someone they are interested in on more than a carnal level creates emotions that are harder to detach from than people they are only sexually interested in. These women want sex, but don't want their emotions tied up in sex, and are trying to communicate that they like their boyfrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:51 PM
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That's the just world fallacy. A transaction with the universe in which you do good, and you get good bc of it. I agree with you here. I was taught wrong. It's still entitlement, in that there's still the expectation of return. The actual reward for being a good person is having a clean conscience and self-respect. Adults absolutely should have taught that. And while I agree with the words you're writing in the context you're putting it, I think the word 'entitlement' is often used to say they e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:46 PM
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See, when I say someone is acting delusional and out of control, I'm saying they should stop. That's really how most people operate. I think "I want them to stop" and "They should stop" are different phrases, through. Sure, I want women to have standards that include me- that doesn't mean I think they should. It means I want them to, which has meaningful difference. I'm pushing back against this nonsense where "technically I didn't say the exact words that women should have to do anything so it …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:46 PM
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Like I can clearly outline what I want men to do differently. Why can't you do the same for women when they bear so much blame? Is that why you gun so hard at people all the time when they're just trying to talk about their feelings? Do you think a lot of people here, especially purple and no pill people, want women to do anything? One can be hurt by something and also recognize nothing can or should be done about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:25 PM
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"Just bc you're nice to Sam doesn't mean they have to be your friend." I think you almost get what the guys here are talking about when they say while they know they are not entitled to anyone in particular, the lessons they were taught growing up led them to believe that putting good into the world gave good back. I never thought that doing good to a person meant that person ever owed anything to me. But, I did think that if I was good, constantly, all the time, even when no one is watching, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:16 PM
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That’s on topic. A recipe is something you can look up, and it was one of *many* examples I typed there. And you’re never going to get me to agree with you that trusting your parents is blind following. You can’t learn to doubt your parents, but I don’t think most children start with distrust for their parents. I didn’t date in highschool. I would say I started to realize that women weren’t attracted to me in college. So let’s say atp it’s been 6 years since I found out and have made changes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:37 PM
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I straight up do not believe you. You look up the pronunciation of every word you learned at home? You look up the proper recipe for the family dish you made at home? You looked up the veracity of your parents stories to make sure it was backed by historical evidence? You’ve never heard someone pronounce a word weird, their friends chuckle, then when they realize they are saying it weird, find out how it’s actually said and move on? Seriously? This is me getting over it. Sorry— I get to complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:24 PM
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That’s not how I feel, personally. I don’t feel like I’m missing my better half, I feel like I have a lot of love to give and desperately want to give it to someone in a romantic way. I already give my friends plenty of platonic love and it feels really good. But I don’t want to share an intimate weekend or walking on the beach holding hands with my platonic friend. U want to surprise my partner with gifts or with a well cooked meal, I want to think about her when im out and buy flowers, i want …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:16 PM
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This doesn’t make any sense. You fact check everything your parents have ever said to you? What people are talking about is that their parents told them one thing, and then they experienced the real world and found out it wasn’t true. That happens any time someone gives you wrong information. You aren’t for believing something until proven otherwise. And… why are you acting like i said something completely off kilter? Let me spell out what I was saying more clearly: I was led to believe the thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:09 PM
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Then maybe I’m completely misinterpreting near every argument from the people in this thread. The ‘it’ll happen when you least expect’ method hasn’t worked at all for me. Trying extremely hard gets me slight amounts of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:27 PM
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I agree. I should put more stats in my flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:13 PM
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I’m tattling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:03 PM
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I honestly don't know. I've never had a pet in my life growing up and now the smells of an animal in the house really grosses me out, so I have an aversion to keeping pets myself for that reason, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:46 PM
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The reason I don't have a pet now is because I cannot imagine being responsible for another living being's food 3 times a day for the foreseeable future when I can't even feed myself 3 meals a day. That's something I know I need to get together before I plan on children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:28 PM
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I just disagree that the only way to meet people is online and feel it’s sooo much worse than meeting someone at the bar , having chemistry and going from there I didn't mean to dispute that. I'm just adding my own experience. All of my dating situations with the exception of one have come thru dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:25 PM
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I personally do not believe that men are in “romantic pursuit” en masse. While I think you're right I don't think he's speaking for men as a collective, only that the subset arguing that romantic pursuit is their life goal is valid. I believe men are on “pussy pursuit” en masse. I don't doubt this. I'm sure my more personal wants lie more here than the former, but the idea of finding my life partner and having a child(I guess you got me there with mating) is something far stronger than current d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:10 PM
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I started typing a sarcastic funny comment in response to this but I just sorta deflated. I think it's just so simple and easy or so low priority for other people and we are the odd ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:01 PM
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I counted about 2 dozen people I think I could reasonably hit me up to hang out. I think the 2 Halloweens ago we had over 50 people in our 2 bedroom apt. I'm not trying to friend off you, this is honestly way too much for me to handle. I understand but I bet you’re friends like you are rather socially reserved. Maybe they are. Lots of them are nerds in some fashion. But among my tighter circle I am one of 2 men who are currently single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:52 PM
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I would surmise its normal to want that, but its kind of absurd for anyone to revolve their literal entire lives around getting married and having kids. For me in particular, it might have disproportional weight because its something I have not made any progress in despite tremendous effort. Like you still need some form of life for yourself that doesn't involve another person being in your life I have plenty of other things that would be on other people's lists, it's just never swayed me emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:31 PM
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I know what an introvert is thank you for the reminder. I genuinely can't tell I this was a dig so I'm sorry if it's not- I only added that comment because the end of your OP you said being an introvert is a choice. I'm pretty sure it's well observed to be not a choice, but also not correlated with social acumen. I am sorry to hear that, I’ll be honest, I don’t believe you? And if that is true then I need to see what you are texting these women. The last time I got a number was a year ago, I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:20 PM
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I go out and dance with my friends all the time while being very introverted. And the best part is if even you go to a bar and meet no women, you could make a new friend who does know a women interested in similar things to you. As a raver and party lover at heart who used to think they were a shy introvert, it’s a literal no brainer I have never, in my ~5 years of fairly consistent going out, met a woman who would reply back to a text from a club or bar. I realize I must be pretty unlucky, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:55 PM
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No, it's something you do. Being a considerate friend is an active choice and it is constant work just not a state of being. I cooked 4th of july dinner for my friends the other day- entrees and sides. I did it because acts of service is my love language and it is my goal to make my loved ones smile. I guess I could have worded it like that, because 'making someone smile' is something I can achieve/do. It just means you aren’t outgoing or adventurous imho. I'm not very outgoing or adventurous. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:51 PM
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🤷‍♂️ I've received much more vitriolic comments when it was personal than speaking in the general like the comments are here. But it's whatever. I'm not going to go searching for it so we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:44 PM
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I think the clearest thing wrong with it is that no matter what you do you are at the whims of another person with agency, their own preferences, and their own desires at the time that you meet them. So many of these things have so much variance that it makes optimizing nearly impossible. Not to say these odds are impossible or overly low, it's just a dice roll you have to make many times. It can make you incredibly unfulfilled, even if the rest of your life is standard or above standard. Maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:34 PM
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Having no interest outside of your prospective partner is just plain boring and depressing. I have plenty of interests, they are just not things I would define as life goals or they are things that are continuous. I don't have a life goal of 'make the best dnd campaign for my friends ever' but my life goal of 'be a welcoming and caring presence to anyone I come into contact with' is not something that can be completed. It's something you do until you no longer can. I don't think most men saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:27 PM
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Scrolling down this thread will show you that people seem to think it's a sad or unworthy goal, though. At best, it's something to be kept to yourself. Also, I don't think I've ever said anything incendiary here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:19 PM
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Lowkey if you have no hobbies, goals or dreams/ambitions that aren’t targeted towards the sole purpose of finding sex/a partner - that’s a very sad life to live. Having a goal you have limited control over is painful, but I think many of the men that have this goal would have removed it from themselves if they could. You should be happy being alone and have dreams outside of them - like getting a good job, travelling to xyz countries, having a nice house/car or having a nice “man cave”, or ownin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:16 PM
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Many men absolutely are all about love and sharing! But in these conversations, that’s not what’s getting criticized I disagree with you. I mean I know it's anecdotal but the amount of vitriol I've gotten on this subreddit because my goal in life is to be a husband and father has been insane. It's to the point that I agree with them that it's a bad goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:07 PM
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Yeah, you sound really young and don't really understand the definitions of the words I'm writing. You don't have to infer- my age is right there in my flair. If 60%+ (it's far more) of the men that want to date her are dependable, responsible, blah blah boring - then it's a common feature and not rare. So those things don't help you in dating, I'm sure you must know this by now. Do you actually think the majority of men are truly dependable and responsible? Why do you think then that the vast m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:03 PM
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What happens after you are done feeling "unfulfilled, depressed, and angry" though? If you desire romance and intimacy, assuming you're not a criminal, you either get good, get lucky, or die mad/sad/unfulfilled. Are you sure that your fundamental disappointment results from women being free to live their lives as they see fit? Women having a free life is a benefit for humanity despite what personal negatives I might feel as a result. Society has objectively changed for the better and me not havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:46 PM
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I never said a woman needs to be "earned" - can you point to where that's said. Do you think women should reward weak men - is that what you're saying? Why would they? Do you mean something else by reward in this instance? Stable, dependable, responsible blah blah is most men in the western world - guys like this are common and around every corner. It's easy to be that, which is why women don't really care about it. It also doesn't stimulate her at all. It depends on your definition of a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:32 PM
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If you watch an hour of porn a day you have an addition for sure. I don't think the vast majority of men are spending more than an hour a week on porn. Honestly I think even that's a bit too high a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:11 PM
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Not who you're talking to but I think his smile is very cute. I like his voice, I think he's got a fun gentleness about him, and of course now that he's been in in his fair share of action movies he has the hollywood body. I've always been attracted to shaggy, more grungy women, and I think his 5 o'clock shadow or whatever he's rocking these days makes him look more disheveled in a way I would find attractive on a woman. Kinda like the boy version of messy hair to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:58 PM
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Men should be embarassed for taking the advice of their grandmothers.That is totally on them for thinking your mother and grandmother would be able to give you accurate dating advice Why would I be embarrassed about trusting my family? My mother was never very kind to me, so I do think she genuinely believed that all you had to do was be well put together and kind. My family still won't stop telling me that I'm an attractive young man who women are excited for. Boomer men didn’t expect their mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:54 PM
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It's not "proving anything" - the evidence of these risks taken in the past will be evident in your life - you're framing this as if they are performative and only risk taking in front of women - which just isn't enough. If it isn't your nature, it is performative. Just because something is performative doesn't mean you only risk take in front of women. "Fake it until you make it" is performative and yet is very common advice. Unless your conclusion is 'if you're not naturally extroverted it's o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:46 PM
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difficult decisions/take risks (the same thing) I don't agree with this, but it doesn't matter- I don't think it's luck. I was more or less asking how you think shy men acquire partners if you think taking big social risks is the way to how you prove you're a 'strong man', and that your definition of strong men are what women crave. Do you think women should reward weak men - is that what you're saying? Why would they? I don't think relationships are a reward. All a relationship requires is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:31 PM
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Thank god for people like you because I would NOT be dying just because I’m a single childless male you’ll have to kill me 😭 ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:33 PM
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Yeah, I’m weak, never take risks, I rarely approach, and I believe that good looking men don’t have to take risks like I am and can still date women I find attractive. Note I didn’t say ‘attractive women’ I meant women who I find attractive, which above average and higher. There, I said it. 🤷‍♂️ Do you just see it as a feat of incredible luck that men who are shy are able to get partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:21 PM
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I am not interested in marrying a virgin woman. Maybe if I was 18, but any woman intentionally hanging onto their virginity at my age isn’t a woman I think I would be compatible with ethically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:07 AM
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If she told me ahead of time, yes I’d take her. 100 dollars is very reasonable imo, if she told me the day before i would have been happy to do it if it was in my city. I can’t really swing flights + hotel + food + concert on 48 hrs notice, but i can save up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:09 PM
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I guess agree to disagree. Women rate presentation more highly than men do— that’s a fact. I believe that the average man is mid and you need to be above average to attract the average woman. However, think it’s a pretty easy to move up 1 point looks wise compared to the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:15 PM
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You’re completely incorrect on this. Unless you’re born with naturally perfect skin, hydration and skin care are incredibly important— unless, are you 18-20 years old? You can get away with not doing such things right now but the men who take care of themselves and men who don’t will quickly start to separate. Body sculpting, understanding your face and body shape, and styling your hair and clothes to match your body and vibe are incredibly important for attracting women. You do most of the attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:58 PM
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Do you work out? Do you have a skin routine? Do you moisturize? Do you hydrate? Sleep 8hrs a night? There are so many things you can do everyday to make yourself more attractive. What is so wrong with your face that you think no woman can be attracted to you? Unless you have EXTREME facial disharmony you have a canvas to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:44 PM
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Even if I granted you that argument(which I don’t)— who cares? Who cares that you had to ‘fraud your genetics’? Do you want to find love and have sex or do you want a woman to think you are intrinsically perfect? Bring attractive is work and the more you strive for it the more you realize how much work attractive people are putting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:38 PM
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Completely untrue. No one, not even black pillers believes this. How could you even come up with this hypothesis when there are infinite examples of the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:34 PM
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Yeah ngl I haven’t found a great fix for this part yet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:30 PM
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If you are so ugly that there isn’t anything you can do, you are such an outlier that it makes no logical sense to hate women. If you were born without a sense of smell, do you hate people for being able to smell apple pie?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:29 PM
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It's pretty easy to reroute why you're angry at women in dating to yourself. For example, if I could make myself into the kind of person women find attractive, then for what reason would I feel any contempt for women? I just need to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:25 PM
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It’s not arbitrary— assuming a 7% return and at my current rate of savings, I’ll be a millionaire by 37. If I look at portfolio and I’m a millionaire before I’m a husband, I’m going to give up. I mean, it’s technically not a set date, it’s a an age range trying to see what gets to the finish line first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:30 PM
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I’m glad you got there. I feel Joy plenty— but it’s never been because of an accolade. I think this one is *actually* childhood trauma, I hear plenty of people develop an apathy for success in overbearing households. I do, and it does make me feel good. It’s enough that I don’t go insane— but it is not something I think is sufficient or sustainable for my long term happiness. Like I said before, I need/want someone to choose me. I need more physical touch in my life, and honestly I need sexual v…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:43 PM
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I guess I’ll check it out. I’m not sure this if grief I can get over easily, though. My actual only goal in life is to be a father and husband— no material or experiential things come close. I’ve spoken on stage, traveled to different countries, made amazing friends, learned new skills… but this is just passing time. I think it doesn’t help that I get no joy from accomplishments. I never have. But I get joy from love, from making people laugh, and making someone feel appreciated. I just want tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:18 PM
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Everyone else has someone who has chosen *them* at the end of the day. When I get home from big parties with all my friends all of whom seem happy to see me there, when I leave I leave alone, lay in my bed alone… like I said in the other comment, I really just want to be chosen. It’s hard to feel like you’re nobodies favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:03 PM
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I didn’t say everything. Right now I live with two of my friends. I get a lot of support, I talk to them very often, and they seem to like having me around. But at the end of the day, they walk away from me and I’m alone. I just want my person at the end of the day to hold and care about my life, and I want someone who trusts me enough to do the same. Something about being chosen is important to me, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:01 PM
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I appreciate the empathy, thank you. Maybe you’re right. The way I feel right now however is that nothing else really matters to me without someone to share it with. You know that saying that goes “If a tree falls in the forest, and no one’s around, does it make a sound”? I feel like the fallen tree can do whatever it wants, it’s ultimately meaningless if no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:52 PM
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I don’t think there is something as there is no direct replacement. I kinda think a segment of us are going to completely shut down/go crazy. This isn’t me trying to fear monger or say women should do anything. I just know how *I* feel not able to date, and since I’m a non violent person I just want to give up. Some people are more violent than me and may get violent, but giving up and being unhappy is more likely. That, or as we get older our desire to be loved will dampen(maybe? I’m not sure. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:50 PM
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Yes. Assuming I have a similar enough mind to I am now all of my life goals would be achieved much easier as a woman as they are as a man. I doubt much about my employment would change. Assuming I stayed at the same schools as I did now I could see my friend groups changing a little, but I've always been in mixed gender friend groups. The only negative I think would be getting constantly hit on at my hobbies. Assuming I'm as autistic and health conscious as I am now, I'd probably still be skinny…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:56 PM
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I'm 27. I did it once this year and she ghosted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:24 PM
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The fact that my last few dating partners were unable to do what you’ve said in the last paragraph is why I’m still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:17 AM
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It’s going fine. I had a really good week this last week so it was mostly about all the things I’ve been doing. But all my positive emotions have crashed and I can’t really ignore it this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:24 PM
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That’s how I’ve been treating it too but the discussions I’ve been having here aren’t fun anymore either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:23 PM
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I thought I was immune! I’m not! 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:15 PM
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All I do is trigger myself all day here and I wonder why I feel so stressed and awful. I have to remember that for a lot of people this is their playground to shitpost on in the toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:03 PM
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The only one I use is Twitter and TikTok and I like those apps. I might block ppd unironically soon if my mental doesn’t get any better I am really struggling today
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:57 PM
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Rage quit all the apps today
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:53 PM
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What? So don’t work on your personality at all because your cute enough? I don't know how bad my personality is or isn't if I'm not cute enough, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:52 PM
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Every woman in my office is married with the exception of a recently divorced 60 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:46 PM
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Kinda crazy how we pendulum swing from “how dare you ask your female friends out” to “you should befriend a woman first” It literally just depends on what wins them the argument in the moment, we are never going to get rules on it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:34 PM
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Simply making friendships with the opposite gender in these workplace or classroom settings cannot be this hard. Some of us went into computer science in college and work in the industry. Not a lot of women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:33 PM
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This is the kind of girl I unironically am looking for where is my alley cat 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:29 AM
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Doom posting with your friends is really really cathartic i was very stressed before today and being able to vent about how bad the world is felt comforting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:28 AM
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I did it today on the lake and it was nice :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:18 AM
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No, you asked me for my immediate thoughts and I have you my immediate thoughts. I legitimately didn’t think about my answer before typing. Ok, let me think about it… before, I thought you said she said that out loud, verbally. If I just had some innate knowledge, it would be annoying but I’d probably treat her like normal. It would be annoying to be in a post apocalyptic world with no porn and no sex next to a woman I found attractive, but it literally makes zero sense to assault her even pract…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:43 PM
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If she opened with “for the record I will never have sex with you” I would think she’d be an unpleasant person to be around. If she proved herself pleasant or more likely I just went crazy from the lack of socialization I’d end up talking to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:32 PM
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My answer immediately was “I would leave her alone and never interact with her again” just in case you wanted my actual, unfiltered opinion. I have no interest really cohabitating with someone who would instantly jump to that, and I’m not sure she’d be as helpful as she would be a hindrance in surviving in this collapsed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:59 PM
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I’m not sure where you keep getting “I will force someone to change something” from “I don’t like this thing”. I’m sure there are plenty of things you don’t like but have no desire to change. I don’t like horror movies but I don’t think they should stop making them. In that same vein, I don’t like some of the standards women have and think they’re negative. But I’m not trying to change the way women act nor force them to act differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:53 PM
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Would you say the faces you like are rare? I feel like neither my threshold for face or body is super rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:18 PM
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Uhh? I’m not sure what you mean. What I’m sexually attracted to doesn’t supersede my desire for connection and I doubt it does supersede that for anyone else answering. This was intended to be a gender neutral discussion. Edit: also, the girl I described above is someone I would call attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:56 PM
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For example, when faced with two choices, a good chunk of people would likely choose a butterface over a morbidly obese person with a stunning face. This is what I was thinking too! I didn't bring up that example to my roommates, because I feel like I see women like the latter all the time. Most people look very normal with a quirk or two that you learn to love. I have heard of a lot of people when they are married to someone come to love their partner's facial quirks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:21 PM
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I typed this all out but let me add this to the top at least- if you don't want to talk about me, we can stop. I realize I didn't really make it clear that this was not a debate about trends, just personal feelings. I don't mind you criticizing me, though. But I've seen you describe the women you're into - who overall would be very desirable - and then see you be completely unmotivated to engage with the easiest kind of dating. That's nothing women can help you with. I agree with you. Dating onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:17 PM
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I've always joked that I'm 'woman shaped sexual'. I'm attracted to things that look like women to me. So like, femboys are attractive- but so is an exceptionally curvy tree. I am just not attracted to the male form at all. Not in an a disgusted way, just in an empty sort of way. I was at a party the first time and my ex and the guy's ex were at the party, and we were paying a pretty raunchy game with some kissing involved. I didn't want to kiss my/his ex and the same for him, so we just kissed e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:31 PM
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Yeah, I was making hyperbole, haha. I’m not disgusted by men and have kissed men before— it tastes like lips. But I don’t find them attractive, just neutral if they’re aesthetically pleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:01 PM
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The process of trying to get a first date is very emotionally taxing for me and men are abundant and expendable. I enjoy dates I'm on and don't get too sad when I'm ghosted afterward. It's everything before the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:52 PM
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Yeah, honestly. Men smell awful. Otherwise, lips and skin taste the same. I don't think I'd want anything up my butt but if men didn't smell so bad I don't think I would be opposed to doing it for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:49 PM
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You never said any specific question at all in your previous comment though. There didn't need to be a question. What I responded to was you saying that when men talk about what they like about a woman, they would lead with the physical. When I was saying that those two questions yielded two different answers, what I was trying to communicate was that the original question you stated, 'What do you like about a woman' is something I would answer leading with personality. However, acknowledged tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:48 PM
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I wish I knew that for certain so that I could give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:30 PM
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When the destination is depending on someone else getting you there trying to repeat something over and over again without changing the destination and without getting there is just insanity Dating is supposed to be fun 🙃 Maybe the focus then needs to be on the first thing as destination instead of trying to force to get to the goal far down the line. If I don't put conscious and active effort towards dating I will be single for, and this is me being optimistic, several years at a time. I do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:25 PM
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I think failure is mostly objective and absolute, honestly. If I try to jump 40 feet high and only jump 3 feet high, I suppose I succeeded in jumping 3 feet high and learned the lesson that I can't jump that high, but ultimately that's just data I'm not concerned with. If someone goes "Wow, I can't even get 2 feet off the ground", being in a better position than someone else didn't mean I didn't fail. When it comes to failing to get into a relationship throughout a life time, I can reframe it as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:13 PM
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I've noticed that I can feel like I look an absolute mess, my hair not styed, might not even be shaved and a guy will be laser focused on my butt. None of this has ever made a woman look attractive to me. I know there are men out there who care a lot about women maintaining a certain upkeep, but that's never moved the needle for me. Maybe I'm a little more face blind than average. Of course if someone asks you what you like about a woman, you're going to start talking about her physical because …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:06 PM
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I think I'm more extreme. I would take a (subjective, not objective) below facially average woman with a great body over the inverse. I like unique faces anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:42 PM
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I don't see the logic. I can't think of anything else where not succeeding in your goal wouldn't be a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:38 PM
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My roommates are one boy and one girl, but I understand you're talking trends here. but they can still be successful because of the status/money halo + good bodies. I think status is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, honestly. But if some people can find former presidents hot, I guess some women are face people? I feel like I never hear a woman say 'his face is really pretty' about a guy they're actually in a relationship with. They just go on about his personality. Once you get to more extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:36 PM
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But I find it weird to see that as a failure. How is it not failure to consistently fail at the thing you want in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:27 PM
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This would work if I wanted a pet woman but I actually want a partner so I don't think this would work out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:16 PM
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I would probably take this deal too. It's not that much different to living on my own chores wise and if I actually got that treatment from a woman I'd be happy. It does sort of seem like you have a pet woman now, and not a real partner though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:16 PM
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😭😭😭😭 I've gone from attracted to completely unattracted to a person because of their smell before. Or been completely enamored with someone because of their smell- and i know the difference between perfumes/oils and natural skin/sweat. Everyone does that right 👉👈🥺 ngl it does sound appealing being picked by an ND person with very specific wants that you fit in. Part of why I want to be rich and hot is that I need enough hotness and capital to find a woman willing to deal with all my bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:52 PM
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Are most people face > body people? I was talking to my roommates, and they both agree they prioritize face over body. We debated it briefly and I'm redirecting it here. I dunno- I feel like most women are pretty enough in the face for me. I think I am much more focused on what I find attractive in a body than a face. Girls I have zero attraction to I can point out many beautiful things about their face that inspires zero attraction in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:43 PM
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doesn't "deserve" the hot guys he sleeps with Ohh. That's based, I would feel good if I was the bottom. He gets to fuck the hot guys while they whine about it. do men give off specific scents? YES in my experience. Maybe I'm a crazy person, but attraction has to do a lot with my nose, not just their body or face. Men definitely have a scent to them I really dislike- I can't smell every dude in the world, so this is just anecdotal. Like, I hate man sweat I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:33 PM
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Oh. Lol. I can't imagine there being a porn community sending this guy hate, it sounds too ridiculous. I don't think I could be gay for pay. Not because I'm disgusted by a penis, but because men smell so bad. I hate the way men smell- that's probably 95% of the reason I'm not gay, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:23 PM
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Why does he look so sad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:14 PM
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This is so common on ppd you just have to laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:12 PM
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Yeah— I think some people, me included, hunt for negative feedback because it makes you feel good confirming your biases. He wants people to rip him apart so that he can feel better for being sad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:20 AM
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Well, that’s the point of asking the question. What does anyone do after asking a question on ppd?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:13 AM
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Ngl I agree with your post a LITTLE but 4.5 and 5.5 is not a bad size. You’re half an inch shorter than the average guy but you’re more than half an inch bigger in circumference. Thats a chode which isn’t actually bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:12 AM
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It’s definitely a risk. I hate hurting people’s feelings. I really need to get comfortable asking for what I want and not compromising. Ultimately, I want to take a woman out, see her often, and be intimate with her emotionally and physically. That does not need to be within the confines of a romantic relationship for me— but it does for other people sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:08 PM
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I have no issue with a FWB relationship— as long as I connect with the person I don’t need any sort of ownership of future with someone to enjoy time with people. I only worry about her catching feelings and don’t reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:55 PM
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I think we agree on your first sentence actually— but it’s because of the reasons I said before imv— that connection is not foreign in the way that desirability is. I feel like women will never understand why men dislike the husband material vs hookup material example. The comment I wrote above is *why* the hookup vs husband material comment makes men feel undervalued for the things important to them in the relationship. But there seems to be a complete disconnect that doesn’t facilitate underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:52 PM
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I would argue that the reason you see so much about sex and cuddles(I don’t believe most men want chad status deep down, they just want their partner to treat them like chad— and what they really mean is they want them to treat them like they’re actually attracted to them.) is bc the connection you’re talking about is implied/not foreign/ not lacking in their lives. I guess I don’t focus about talking about the connection in a potential relationship because I feel as though every connection is u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:28 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:12 PM
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The thing I hate the most about dating is 1. Being rejected on a desirability basis and 2. The chance that she likes me but I dont like her back. 1 hurts my feelings but since I can work on that it’s not a lasting issue. With 2, it causes me a lot of distress.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:50 PM
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It’s the kids mismatch I’m concerned with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:46 PM
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Yeah. I’m trying not to look 10 years in the future before a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:44 PM
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The last 2 girls I’ve been out with ghosted me so I’m numb now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:43 PM
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But I do (think) I want kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:36 PM
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But what if I take like her? What if she really likes me? 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:34 PM
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It’s ‘open to where things go”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:33 PM
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I'm talking to a girl on bumble who doesn't want children because I assumed she'd ghost me like everyone else but she's really engaged. I dunno if it's a smart idea to try to take her out or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:04 PM
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Because gaming is a very vast hobby and I feel like when people say this they have the image in their head of some sweaty neckbeard who can’t budget time for his hobby and the people in their life. Also, I think some games can have some extremely good stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:01 PM
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I think it’s foolish to admit it’s not just sadness- anger is a secondary emotion or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:58 AM
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I’m sorry about that— people don’t really talk about it, but that situation is scary for men too. I wouldn’t know what i would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:36 PM
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Yes it did. I’m not trying to be smart or anything— I’m telling you my in real life friends who are very normal by all estimation sometimes use these words and find it funny. I have mixed gender friends who live in various states of online-ness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:15 PM
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…what exactly is a self own? These guys are all happy in their relationships. How are they being owned?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:43 PM
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I mean I dunno what to tell you. My dnd friends talk like this, but I’m more talking about my normal friends I went on the bachelor party with. Only 2 of us(me and one other guy) are single, and 2 are married. We swing nerdier for sure, but none of us are basement dwellers— it’s just twitter vernacular that’s hit meatspace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:19 PM
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Uhhh. Yes they are. if you hang out with my friends, you’re going to hear “pog”, “based”, and “kek” as well as “X”maxxing and stuff like that. We don’t like ‘foid’ because we think it’s kind of odd to be calling people that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:08 PM
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😭 yes I can. I say words like “Pogchamp” and I don’t watch twitch. I also use twitter. ‘Maxxing’ is popularized as slang these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:59 PM
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hmmm tempting...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:52 PM
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As long as you're enjoying it, that's what counts. Oh no, I absolutely hate it. But I look in the mirror and can see progress which is the only thing keeping me going. I had the opposite problem than most of PPD. I had no trouble filling my bed, but I attracted one jealous psychopath after another. Most people haven't experienced this, but I have once. It was horrible, and I don't think men here really understand what it feels like to be in that situation. Getting hit and then realizing if i did…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:48 PM
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I'm happy you found someone who likes you! Like I said before. I have not been able to find that. Looksmaxxing for me is a hobby and distraction, and a cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:39 PM
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I don't know anything that sub genre, so I can't help there, haha. I'm 5'8 and I've dated women taller than me, too. I'm not some kind of ppd amalgamation, even if I agree with them on some general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:34 PM
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Sure, yeah. The reason I'm purple pill is because while I agree with a lot of red pill logic I think it's wrong the way they treat women, and think their explanations veer into pseudo science very quickly. Same with looksmaxxing- I agree that looks are the most important and important first. I also think that soft looksmaxxing along with strong nichemaxxing is all the average/below average needs imo- nichemaxxing along with status brings more attention to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:30 PM
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I said I do looksmaxxing, not that I'm a part of the community. Scroll up again to were I said I get my information- from beauty tiktokers, pinterest boards, calisthenics tiktokers, black women. Of course these people get commission on the products they talk about. But hey- everyone needs to eat. Imo it's about finding sources that share similar aspects to yourself and adapting it when you can. If the beauty lady has thick 4c hair I know the product she's using is likely to use my hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:13 PM
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All women are essentially hypergamous and are attracted to men who they believe have high social status. Even if I believed this is true(status imo is about eyes on you not about quality of woman you obtain but whatever) the trick to status is that it's actually the easiest to change. If you want high status shrink your niche until it's attainable. If you can't be president be alderman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:10 PM
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Before you continue I just want to make sure that you acknowledge the fact that I don't watch clav or any looksmaxxing creators. Deciding to work very hard to be the women who I'm attempting to attract is neither new(it's new to men, not new to women) nor is it giving them any money. I don't know what clav wants me to hear. I think legit the longest I've seen him speak is a clip on tiktok of him calling Logan Paul a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:04 PM
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Yeah. If I can be really angry at anything, it's to everyone who told me that it would happen when I least expected it and that everything would slot into place. It's never, ever been like that for me either. My friends are getting married and thinking of having kids, and I've never had to learn how to ask a girl to be my girlfriend yet. I have never bought flowers even though I want to. What's cute as a teen is corny as an adult and people are so hyper aware of having their time wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:57 PM
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Ok so what you admit then is that since that problem exists regardless, it should be a major area of focus and improvement…… but that’s not what looksmax ir TRP say at all is it? The only person I advocate for is myself, honestly. I know my personality isn't a problem. My friends like me, their parents like me, passerbys on the street like me, even the women who I date 'like' me. What I'm missing is a feeling of desire, which is why looksmaxxing is my focus. I don't tell people to neglect their …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:47 PM
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Let’s say you wanted to play a game, only thing is the whole thing is in Latin. Would you say that understanding the game matters more than being able to just log on? Honestly, no. The problem of the game being in latin would exist whether or not you're able to turn it on. And learning latin doesn't mean that you'll be able to turn it on even if you learned the language. Therefore: while Looks AND Personality will get you to step 3, a relationship, Looks is step 1, and Personality is step 2. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:32 PM
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What kind of women are you interested in? Do you have a niche, or a subculture you think you would be most likely to be attracted to? I'm really into the alt/grunge/midwest emo subculture, so that's the kind of girls I want to appeal to. For them: Women are still women, in the same men are still men. Most women are attracted to 'athletic' guys. When I say athletic, I mean men who look like they move actively often, but that doesn't mean gym guys exactly. Women want the kind of guy who looks like…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:21 PM
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So you just admitted that a personality can turn off a woman which means looks aren’t all that matter AND everything past that first threshold is more important? Ok. To use the game analogy again. You're playing a game and having fun, and someone else isn't. You ask him: "Why aren't you playing the game?" He responds: "I really wanted to play it, but my computer isn't compatible." Now- would you say the hardware of the computer doesn't matter? After all, the kid's skill has not been evaluated. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:14 PM
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I'm not against self-improvement. I'm against the PPD hamster wheel where tomorrow, after I have accomplished x, women will flock to me. Only, tomorrow never comes. It's all poison, but to be honest finding the next thing to obsess over when one doesn't work is what keeps me sane, and objectively a more well rounded adult, so. I suppose I prefer this to the alternative. I'll be honest. Nothing would change the lives of more PPD guys than if they just learned to go out a couple of times a week an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:08 PM
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If your problem is that your personality is what turns women off, you need to work on that(royal you). But if you don't have the chance to disappoint her with your personality, you need to look good enough be allowed to disappoint her in the first place. Consider your personality level 1- I would argue that Looks are the ability to turn on the game in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:03 PM
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I think that trends exist within most genders and to the extent that you can be conventionally attractive, you should be. Niche comes into play, and trends within those niches should be exploited where possible. Looks exclusively matter on a check fail basis as soon as you walk into the door. From there, charisma can influence how attractive you are up to a point. Personality, which I feel is different from charisma, is important to how the relationship develops, but I don't think it's important…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:00 PM
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Yeah, I didn't really care to read about him. I just remembered the quote from a postcard, and thought it at least respectful enough quote the author, haha. Regardless, if he disagrees on my take on perfection, I disagree with him. I think that striving to perfection is like being a graph trending towards zero- you will never attain it, but working on yourself, your conversational skills, your style, your niche, your physical aesthetic- etc. to increase your broad and specific attraction markers…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:48 PM
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“Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.” ― Norman Vincent Peale I unironically think this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:36 PM
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Not exactly. "He's attractive on paper and I can tell that he's not an unattractive person but I am not feeling a spark" Is more what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:32 PM
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TBH I don't think that's true- you can be attractive enough to be seen out with but not attractive to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:31 PM
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Keep in mind that the average woman commenting on PPD is much less likely to be closer to the average, normie women than women who are into niches that might include gaming or nerdy hobbies. Don't discount their responses, but understand the sample bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:28 PM
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Oh this is the same guy? Lol makes sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:29 PM
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He’s me fr but I just won’t reply ever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:20 PM
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https://www.np.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/1u7k2bl/can_i_rizz_my_way_back_into_this/ Brooooooooo I laughed my ass off to this though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:06 PM
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I need to get my pension vested here in Chicago first. Then I can look to private companies— but I think getting my pension vested is more than worth it. I have 6 years left and it’ll provide me a lot more flexibility in my retirement in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:41 PM
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I don’t think the men were talking about know how to navigate a casual relationship or attract someone interested in them in that way. If they were, wouldn’t they have already had it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:38 PM
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I think modern policy is centered around old people- think culture is created by the younger generation- that's why it can feel tilted in the direction of young people- because it's concerned with what young people are concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:40 PM
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I just lost 200 dollars in the stock market, just signed a lease on a new apt and have to buy new furniture, get a hotel for the wedding I'm going to in Mexico and the US dollar is going the way of the dodo because we just lost the war we started in iran and are giving them 300billion dollars increasing inflation even more until it surpasses wages I'm just a little worried about the state of the world I think
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:38 PM
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I need to get rich I really need to get rich
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:10 PM
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I literally don't know what I would tell someone other than 'go back in time and make yourself not a loser in 8th grade' because it seems like that's the only effective treatment to actually get the life these men want ethically. Failing that, what? You have to turn to unethical methods like lying to women to get the same life that a normal man would have gotten just growing up normal. And since these men are typically high in anxiety and neurosis, they are not likely to do that. i've talked abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:09 PM
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Unironically this is sad that some guys were not able to date in the life stages where this is acceptable. I dunno how old this guy is, but I feel like when you're in your late 20s/early 30s women just sort of go "Ok I'm ready to be married now" But... you got to have a dating experience. Lots of these late bloomer guys are functionally teenagers when it comes to their dating experience, and no one has anything to say to them. It's like all the advice is horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:53 PM
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I just make sure my favorite character is alive that's all I care about 🙏 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:12 PM
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King Gnu - AIZO Btw, this song is mandatory
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:11 PM
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I saw it in theaters! It was pretty fun! I'm not a demon slayer fan but my good friend is, so I've been going to see only the movies with him without watching the series. It's pretty funny to catch up and be like "Wait who's this guy why can he do that now"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:06 PM
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I get to play dnd in person for the first time in years! I'm super excited. I'm playing a Ronin ranger and it's going to be anime as fuck. I'm kinda basing her personality around Mereoleona Vermillion from Black Clover, Rumi Usagiyama from MHA, and Tengen Uzui from Demon Slayer, if you know them. I'm trying to compile a bunch of baddie edit/girlie pop songs to get me in the mood along with a lot of jpop/kpop. If you have any hype songs please feed them to me!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:00 PM
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I do this with weed and it really helps my anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:54 PM
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If the money is good, they gave me time to prep, and they got me really high- sure. I can get pretty gay when I'm high anyway and I would probably get some pleasure out of it if only mechanical. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:41 PM
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Dating is the level one you're talking about. What you're arguing is that women have it harder after establishing the relationship- and even then I would say on average, the power is just normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:37 PM
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Good for him! I’ve always been worried about sending a dm in those spaces but you really miss every shot you don’t take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:37 AM
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Sometimes i want to call someone weird when they make a weird logical keep based on nothing I’ve ever said
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:20 AM
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Did he dm her or something or did he run in the same community as an active user or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:19 AM
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I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:04 AM
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I randomly came across a thread about porn stars and unrealistic expectations. Men are we attracted to pornstars? I feel like I meet women in real life all the time that are more attractive than your average pornstar. Also random, but I wish you could pay someone to go on a practice date with you and then evaluate you. Is there a paid service for that? Seems like a good market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:45 PM
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Oooh! And I’ve never been a fan of the GOW games but his wife seems cool! I am bored with the whole “how come woman fight” discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:51 AM
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I haven’t! I looked them up, but they look like something I’d like. I love mussels and clams too. And oh shit that does sound up my alley. I’ll have to check it out and look up some stuff about it. Is that the most exciting thing you’ve seen for you or is there something else you’re looking forward to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:45 AM
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I love them! Some people don’t like the texture, but it tastes like the ocean sea but with no lingering fishiness to me. And I haven’t! Was it in one of the new summer games fest things? I only watched for street fighter and then I turned the stream off lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:29 AM
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I just bought oysters, and I’m going to make oyster shooters with my boyfriend roommate. I was just about to post how I wish I had a gf to get high and go to Whole Foods with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:24 AM
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Swiping left changes your algorithm to not show you people like that, but as far as I know it doesn't negatively effect your elo. I think Elo is based on match percentage- ie how many times people swipe right on you and how many times your right swipes are matches for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:24 PM
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The only principles I have are ethical. I don't really care about any other principles, but I'm not going to tell you to change your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:55 PM
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I don't really mind- I can afford it and it's landed me dates. I'm not really too hung up on some tracking if it means I have sex/find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:53 PM
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There are multiple ways to play the game. I dunno about you, but boosts really work for me. When I pop one I get ~10-15 likes at peak hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:49 PM
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That is the playbook but I prefer to keep my swipe rights very intentional and reasoned to have a higher match elo than the average guy, and try to focus on women I actually find appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:45 PM
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Not exactly asking if it’s going well or not — but are you actively trying to date? Are you on dating apps? Yes. I have a tinder, bumble, and hinge account. Are you asking women out IRL? I have on occasion. I hate doing it. And if you are,why are you still here? Does it help or hurt? Or do you consider this just a hobby? I came here for answers as to why I was struggling so much to date. This place is neutral- it does confirm my biases on dating, but it also helps me feel not alone in how bad it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:23 PM
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Right, but some hard checklist items still exist. An easy low hanging fruit one for me is "They can't be homophobic." That's just a hard rule that prevents me from continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:05 PM
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I guess what I'm complaining about is that I can't window shop, lol. There are women I'm super attracted to(I've tailored my hinge algorithm very well- about 1 in 4 women in my stack are my type which is a good ratio in my book) and because I know that at least aesthetically we are a match it's not impossible I match with them. When I see a girl who is my type and who's at least stated personality matches with mine, I just close the app because I don't want to swipe away but I also know I cannot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:39 PM
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Does anyone else decide intentionally not to match with someone you have a fair idea would swipe back on you, because you know you don't have the bandwidth to talk to anyone at the moment? I wish I could idly send likes into the vid on dating apps but I feel like I'm about to waste a woman's time if I match with her and don't actually speak to her/ set up a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:33 PM
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I think you're right about them having a checklist, but I think most people do. I think 99% of people have some combination of soft and hard requirements for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:32 PM
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Do you want to have sex? Are you not able to have sex? I don't understand the gatekeeping of the term, like mental ailments like social anxiety preventing you from having the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:30 PM
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There's actually a pretty easy way to find out through gaming if the boy is misogynist. You can say something like "Oh yeah I'm not into it but my friend was but they're so mean to girls on there. Have you heard about that stuff?" And gauge his reaction to misogyny in gaming. If he can't help but say something like "It's not so bad" or "If she can't take the heat go back to stardew valley" or something you have your answer. There are also tons of female writers for some of the most popular games…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:25 PM
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I do think that having a sister and a largely female extended family made me see women as normal people. But they are all southern black women(except my mom and sister) so they're a lot more redpilled on women than me, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:15 PM
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Have hobbies beyond video games. Something active or creative is nice. Talents are attractive. What if my talent is video games? 🥲 I'm joking but I'm seriously one of the best street fighter players in my state haha. Wish it counted as something impressive 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:13 PM
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I need to match with a slightly unhinged alt girl so that she can pick my tattoos stat
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:09 PM
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Are you going to see him? I don't think you should have sex with inconsiderate people but it's your life. I have been working on it. For about a year now. I’ve lost a lot of weight and it’s making things that I believed before even more apparent. Congratulations! If it's things like skin folds that will recover with time, and if you lost a lot of weight surgery might be a better option. Even if things don't look better now you're definitely improving yourself by working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:01 PM
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You don't have to be homophobic (or any -phobic) to feel uncomfortable being prepositioned for sex like that, especially if you just don't know a person in this way. Then why did you use a big burly man as an example? You might be okay with that, but keep in mind that's *you* Right, and my opinion is that it's pretty homophobic to be appalled if a big burly gay man asked me but not if a pretty woman asked me. I would feel wary or in danger if he cornered me or did this without a good exit option…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:59 PM
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I'd be surprised because it wasn't normal, but yes since I'm not homophobic I'm not going to feel any type of way from being propositioned by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:53 PM
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I mean, this an example of an unhealthy cope. I'm sorry about the way your ex treated you- I think it's horrible to string someone along like that. I think you should consider getting some help regarding your insecurity and past trauma around attraction. I've felt similar feelings(not to this extent) and therapy helps me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:48 PM
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I don't think I ever said that. I said when someone ghosts me, I feel better by optimizing my appearance so that I feel like she missed out on me and I'm not as emotionally affected. It's cope but healthy cope I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:38 PM
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I don't wanna get a tattoo, they are such good accessories in the summer. Maybe I should really start investing in temp tattoos but I don't wanna catfish anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:30 PM
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Well I won't tell you there's some secret recipe to success or something- but my way might improve the self esteem. I have very low self esteem too, but all this looksmaxing stuff makes me feel more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:30 PM
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I also want to date someone I’m compatible with. But I need to find them attractive first. They need to find me attractive first. I think that the more people that find you attractive the more chances you have to find someone compatible. i have sort of accepted that shallowness is a barrier to even sweet kind people, and I don't want my face or body to be the reason I don't meet someone who could make me happiest. I’m not hot. Never have been. Never will be. I don't mean to pry, but is there a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:20 PM
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I think the homeless analogy still holds true here. This just isn't consistent with how people view the struggles of others. Your rights end at their autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:17 PM
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Sorry- forgot to answer this. I'll send you a dm when I'm off work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:08 PM
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No, I try to date people I'm compatible with. I suppose I do date down financially most of the time, but it's not by intention. However, I'm always improving. Today I am hotter than I am yesterday- so a woman who's ghosted me just jumped off a high potential man(in my view)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:04 PM
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It distracts me from being ghosted to try even harder to be hotter to a larger amount of people. Feeling hot makes me think that they missed out and I can keep moving with my head held high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:01 PM
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I'm not Arab so I've never took the time to look it up. Here is an example of something I found: UPS Scholarship for Minority Students - Scholarships360. An easy way to find scholarships if you already have a declared major- look up that major and see if people will pay for you to study it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:51 PM
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Lmao yeah I've seen that! That's where I got the idea
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:39 PM
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Bc I threw it through AI to make it look less like her. Her facial features are the same but I didn't just want to post a picture of a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:36 PM
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Not a girl but I don't see why 2 and 3 should be a consideration. You know that homeless people could use your money but you are under no obligation to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:34 PM
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There are a lot of race specific scholarships. I applied for black scholarships and so did my sister, for black women. They can get very specific too- I got a volunteer scholarship so long as I volunteered on campus for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:31 PM
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Hmm. I kinda agree with this, but to offer a little pushback: It's fine- but it's fine in the same way that only eating junk food is fine. Like, yes, it's okay to do but not good for you- and people may judge you or try to change your ways out of concern for your future. To extend the analogy further- just like junk food, dating with superficial and selfish qualities is fine when you're young. But as you get older, you're the one who is going to realize you made a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:30 PM
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I wasn't trying to argue against that, I believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:20 PM
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I know. I know you aren't looking for advice and I'm not trying to give it, but I feel much better and less worried when I'm actively looksmaxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:06 PM
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Being white is rough as far as scholarships are concerned, unfortunately. Try to look for some specific study abroad or world culture type scholarships, and see if they're available to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:03 PM
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I'm sorry dude. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:01 PM
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How old are you and what demo are you in? There are some demo specific scholarships that have lower GPA barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:59 PM
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If you know what you want to do schooling is never a bad path and you're never too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:44 PM
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Hmm. Yeah, the stuff you're saying is cultural signaling. Those are socially acceptable things to say, but I bet most people have fetishes they just wouldn't say out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:43 PM
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I don't know what this means
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:19 PM
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Those are the only dates I go on, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:50 PM
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If my heart isn’t in it, if my weekend is busy, if I’m too sleepy to talk… right now my excuse is that I’m still injured from a bike crash and don’t wanna date in pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:51 PM
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What if it’s a feature that they can’t change like their nose or if they have a disease that makes children impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:42 PM
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No, I’m just really neurotic and if anything could go wrong I decide not to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:41 PM
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I have female friends I’m not attracted to, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:33 PM
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Fair point, but I still don’t feel right about it. I compromised by throwing it through AI to change the details of the person enough that I don’t think they’d be recognized. Here is an example of the kind of women I’m just not texting. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:32 PM
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I don’t think it’s hatred not to be attracted to me. I have female friends who have called me short too and I know they like me as a person. I just know they aren’t interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:22 PM
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A woman’s height doesn’t really matter to me— women who are 5’2 have called me short and women who have been taller than me have been attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:18 PM
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It would be wrong to post pictures of other people online. But my matches are very attractive I’m just stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:17 PM
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Sometimes they do? But I’m attracted to women taller than me— I’ve dated a 6’ ft tall woman before and would do it again. I think more women than not aren’t interested in my height, but women who are interested exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:13 PM
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😔 it’s bad man I could have a gf rn if something wasn’t wrong with me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:13 PM
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Sometimes I do. I try not to let it bother me— I know it’s worse for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:56 AM
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I’m 5’8
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:54 AM
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I think if some of you guys saw the kind of girls I was leaving on read you would beat me to death with hammers(I also want to beat past me with hammers)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:22 AM
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I actually share that opinion and have had casual sex, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:17 AM
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I mostly use PPD and other dating advice subreddits. I don’t find them to be very causal sex positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:42 AM
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Hmm. Depends on where you spend your time on Reddit, I guess. I’ve only ever seen people put down for not wanting casual sex if their thesis statement is “I didn’t like casual sex so you shouldn’t do it either” which, I dunno— everyone has their own algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:34 AM
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No, you don’t get to bring up Andrew Tate and then roll your eyes when he’s the perfect example of what people who are hesitant about sex work are pointing to when we say our grievances about the practice. I don’t want even a .0001% chance that I’m having sex with a woman against her will. Why is this shocking to you? Why is it so incredulous that this is a serious concern? Seriously like Jesus Christ. Tell me the percentage of women who are forced into sex work and then let me know if you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:20 PM
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But so then this kind of disproves the original commenters claim that 'when you (a partner/wife) give your man sex he will equate it with receiving love?' How so? If my wife makes me a cup of coffee with hers in the morning I equate it to receiving love. When she asks me about my day and is genuinely interested, that is also receiving love. I don't think it's exclusionary, I think these examples, and sex, are all ways for people to receive love. Sex is one among many and more or less important d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:11 PM
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He’s a misogynist who’s being investigated for being a violent rapist along with his brother. Among the people he violently raped where the women he sex trafficked. You're talking about hiring professionals- did you hear the stories from his victims? Why would I be interested in adding to a girls enslavement? What does that have to do with the topic at hand? What you do irl and what you do on the internet are not necessarily the same. I said the complaining doesn’t stay on the Internet. And I gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:05 PM
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I don't believe that if you would receive nothing else Hold on. I never said that. A girl wouldn't feel loved if I only complimented her, either. She still has to be a good companion, a great friend, witty, dorky, all sorts of things. I simply said what I like the *most*, no one has ever said love languages comprise the totality of your desires in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:56 PM
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I use what you have in addition to an eye cream, retinol, and sometimes scar removal cream to get rid of old acne scars. I just wanna be beautiful for as long as I can. 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:51 PM
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I think the only relevant thing you said here is that people can understand the sentiment behind an action of love, even if that action doesn't make them feel loved. I can agree with that. I mean, that's I was trying to say so I'll consider this a job well done. I would add that conversely, people can feel loved even if someone's intentions weren't to make them feel loved. But, so since you asked, love is an intense feeling of deep affection, and I think if this affection is valid enough people …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:49 PM
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I don't see it as valid. Ok? Which do you see as valid then? What is a valid way for someone else to feel loved, in your opinion? Okay, so let's say you feel loved by that women then. What if she hates you though? Nothing. What I feel and what the truth is are not automatically congruent. If I feel loved and she hates me, I was just wrong to feel that way. Then was it a valid love languages or ultimately, the participants misunderstood each other? Mismatched desires and expectations are somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:28 PM
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I wrote a lot for you, and you focused on the part of my argument that had nothing to do with your own OP. Alright. If their complaining stayed on the Internet, we wouldnt have Andrew Tate being as popular as he is, people would never have known what incels are. What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Andrew Tate agrees with you that you should get a hooker if all you want is sex. In fact, he sells women to you. It doesn’t stay on the Internet because so many of them try to make noise …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:23 PM
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Tbh I have heard of the concept of hatefucking but I've never experienced it or seen it. Also, I agree with you personally. A girl expressing her carnal attraction to me is both a romantic and sexual turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:11 PM
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I give gifts to people I don't care about all the time and I have been given gifts from people who couldn't pick me out of a lineup. And yet gift giving is a valid love language. why couldn't someone feel loved when someone they like has enthusiastic sex with them? I won't speak for all men, but seeing a woman express carnal desire for me seriously makes me more romantically attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:09 PM
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So how much you know about America and Europe. Did you mean "Shows how much you know about America and Europe"? That can happen at a strip club. Why would I ever want to go to a strip club? Getting blueballs with your homies seems boring. So their complaint are fake. Is this punctuation a new thing you're doing? Anyway, Lilith, you've attempted to spin my argument. When I say 'the internet is not real life', I was referring to the act of complaining, as you were in the post above mine and the OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:02 PM
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If they’re in America or Europe, there’s plenty of easy places they can get it. I assume, since this is an English speaking sub that the vast majority of people here are probably in the west. I meant illegal, not just hard to access. I have no desire to be a part of some sting operation by the police or worse, be a part of some stick up situation. And spending a plane ticket to go to the one county in Nevada to spend 3k then fly back is an insane proposition you're making. Getting mad that you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:36 PM
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It's illegal in many places first of all, and carries harsh social stigma even in some places where it's legal. There's also the matter of exploitation. Even if a man could be okay with only sex work he could still be concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:24 PM
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I finally checked out men's profiles on bumble and stuff. I know these guys aren't my competition because they're men searching for men, but like... I thought my pictures were bad and need improving. Ugh, it's like I took all this reddit advice and it doesn't even really matter, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:45 PM
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I think if women started approaching men the rate of men approaching women would go down. Obviously you can't control other people, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:35 PM
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The one on the top is probably what most people mean, because low functioning autism is just enough where you feel like you could be a normal person but everyone sees you as off somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:32 PM
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It came out of nowhere genuinely. I don’t know what happened I went from speaking fine to crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:21 AM
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But I care about what she feels not how she acts— I think other people could to. Would you rather have someone who loved you and acted like it or someone who only acted? I choose the latter and even if I couldn’t tell practically it’s still important to me. This is like saying “your friend can secretly hate you but if they act like they like you it’s the same” it’s like, practically yes but spiritually no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YeHV5DDeCk
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:37 PM
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Dude, I think he's just excited to be a dad and share experiences with his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:57 PM
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Stealing is wrong 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:37 PM
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I cried again in therapy. It was unironically about mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:36 PM
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I dunno- maybe I wanna buy her a rose but I have no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:35 PM
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I think this was just a funny video he was starting to make that actually just hit him in his real feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:34 PM
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It's weird how he already has all the sons being into sports, meanwhile the girl just... talks about her day? He was talking about a 19,20,21 year old woman. He couldn't put her in any sports. I think this was just an off the cuff ramble that made him emotional not a dissertation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:33 PM
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Sometimes you want to but can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:24 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8sAeNQW/ this is really how I feel. I teared up a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:24 PM
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It's anxiety for me. The one time I finished during sex it was when I was very very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:16 PM
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I know nothing about you. Look at the color of my flair. In this thread I've spoken a lot about myself. You fell off another thread where I told you directly I was comfortable showing myself. You don't want to know me. You want to fight with the version of me you made up in your head. I am only reacting to your rhetoric. And your rhetoric is reminiscent of Elliot Rodger’s. Hearing that may be insulting, but that’s the content you are posting. Were you a bully in high school? Elementary? You’ve a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:13 PM
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These tests are hard because I can't tell if what I'm saying is true or what I know is right, lol. But Happiness in lowest makes sense. Lol. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:53 PM
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I don't fake it I just don't. 🤷‍♂️ I heard some people spit on their back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:50 PM
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You’re a grown ass man and can’t seem to grasp the very basic fact that these men get with women inspite of their red flags not because of them. Red flags are sometimes corollary to things that are attractive. To other men, a woman who is very sexually forward early is attractive. But something corollary to something you're interested in can be a red flag. In the case of this hypothetical woman, maybe you find a high body count to be a red flag. Do you understand what I mean better now? And I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:45 PM
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I think ResponsibilityAny sort of nailed it. When I call myself a boring guy, what I mean by that is I don't get into crazy situations, I typically plan for things to have a set start and end time, I have a consistent schedule that stresses me out when it's broken, and I have a few hobbies and interests that most people wouldn't find all that exciting. I know the frame data for every street fighter character and love talking about fighting game terms and numbers- not everyone's cup of tea, but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:51 PM
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Red pilled man: *speaks exactly like Elliot rodger* I'm not red pill. And yes, it is insulting to be compared to a serial killer. Did Elliot Rodger just wake up one day shooting people? Or did he not have years of documented rhetoric where he said the exact same shit you are saying now? I haven't read his whole manifesto or anything- Just watched videos about him. Did he also wonder how to be more attractive to women, and not understand why people who actively harm women have more success to him…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:40 PM
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If it's a shitty one bed, at least make sure the one bed is nice. Sorry- a Jr 1 bed is a type of studio where the bed is blocked off from the main room but isn't in it's own actual room. The place I'm looking at is 1700 for a jr one bed with in unit- that's the best I'm going to get for that price. The equivalent 1 bed for this start at 2.3k. I would assume you don't care or try to project wealth, and if that's the case, maybe do try to buy some nicer things to publicly display it, since I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:36 PM
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Like doing a number? ....That would actually be pretty fun. I'd have to actually get good at dancing though- I just move to the beat right now. But this seems like a fun project...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:30 PM
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That works too!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:29 PM
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No one’s putting shit in your mouth. What you've claimed about my thought process is not anywhere close to the way my brain works. Calm down and talk to me like a normal person- I haven't spoken to you out of turn even though you've done so to me multiple times. You have an utterly bizarre worldview and it’s reflected in your rhetoric which we all can see. I've had pleasant conversations with everyone else here. I don't think I've even touched on my worldview. The fact that abusive men have part…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:28 PM
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The argument was about whether or not lying is wrong, it is if lying is desired or ignored. For example, I want a woman who openly sexually desires me. I don't want a woman who 'acts' that way, just because she knows I like it. I want her to actually feel it in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:00 PM
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Sorry, I didn't see your edit and read it now. You sound like a very nice, nerdy guy, but sadly that doesn't really cause attraction. Lacking impulsivity is generally a turn off when a primary element of "excitement" is the unknown. When everything is planned/behavior is always what is expected, that's not exciting I agree with this take(and thank you for the compliment). I try pretty hard to be more spontaneous, but it isn't my nature. I'm the sort of person that needs a 2 week notice before we…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:46 PM
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I hope you were dancing too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:35 PM
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I was really hoping someone would respond- it's rare for people looking for advice to have all of my checkboxes checked, so some dating advice just doesn't apply to me. I have roommates now which could be a red flag? That changes in august so hopefully that's another thing off the list. I go outside a fair amount too- I go to about 2 concerts a month and regularly out with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:32 PM
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I'm not sure how just world applies. This was in response to a woman saying she doesn't care if a man loves her she just cares if he goes through the motions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:26 PM
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I have read this blog post a million times. It echos how I feel very closely!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:29 PM
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I would probably have a panic attack try to talk about it and then walk on eggshells for a few months before I can't take it anymore and leave. This would be my worst nightmare and I would run over every sexual encounter I've had with her in my head to try to find out where I could have gone wrong and I don't think I would be able to bare with the guilt that someone really thinks I was capable of that- or worse, that I was somehow capable of that and couldn't remember/couldn't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:05 AM
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I haven't been in a relationship long enough to have this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:53 AM
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Get out of your social circle, This is easier said than done. I have obligations to like 20+ people I keep in regular contact with. find hobbies do what you want to do with your life outside of dating, put it on the back burner for twelve months and do shit that makes you happy, I don't think I have time. happiness is attractive. I try to spread positivity. My friends consider me kind, and optimistic. I believe in a 'the energy you put in the world is what you receive' type of thinking, and so e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:52 AM
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She was mean to me, but I do think she was attracted to me. She crashed out when I broke up with her, spread lies about me through my friend group, and tried to pry my circles away from me. But I still think she was the woman who showed she was interested in me. I did not have to guess, even if it was scary to be alone with her sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:50 AM
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Maybe. I'm still attracted to the same women as the ex I spoke about before- I just consciously avoid those women when I get those same feelings that the old ex used to give me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:48 AM
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I tried really hard not to say anything mean to him when he called me Elliot Rodger. I had to take a deep breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:47 AM
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It might be out in the real world, but if you hold this dislike of women out there that’s not going to help. I don't dislike women on the whole. I dislike how I am treated in dating and on the internet when I try to ask for help, that's all. I have many female friends, I swear. young men are weirdly desperate to get into dating it actually used to be the other way round. If I want a partner that I am attracted to who is attracted to me I should use all the time I have to get there. I don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:46 AM
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You’re not competing against men though, you’re competing against a woman’s peace, I'm competing against both. To a stranger who is a woman I am indistinguishable from other men- not that I shouldn't be. but you can’t just fake that shit you have to actually have respect for her because you’re genuinely interested not trying to “win” something. I'm not sure what made you think I was interested in faking, but I agree that you cannot fake things to actually find yourself in a long term relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:43 AM
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I've been told by my therapist and friends not to underplay my accomplishments- it's a bad habit of mine. I put objectively in statistics because I don't think I'm better than everyone else. A better phrasing might be "Based on the hard numbers I have I am above average for the population, and especially among my peer group." I don't think it makes me better than them- sorry if that is what it came across as.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:40 AM
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Sorry, I hit enter accidentally. Long story short, I do look at other dating subs from time to time and try to apply lessons when applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:37 AM
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I think if you look at the points you’re making about those women you’ll see it’s the same for men. I didn't think that was true, but the more I thought about it the more it makes sense. I don't understand how it makes sense, but criminality correlates to sexual partners and also low impulsivity. I'm a very neurotic person. I need to take a few drugs to approach the impulsivity of a normal person- I know that's a flaw I have. you need input from women friends more than most men to be honest, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:36 AM
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Your mistake is you think they get away with it, they don’t, there are victims in this too. By 'Get away with it' I mean continue to attract other women, not retain the same women. Good men will be asking “wtf is wrong with this asshole” not “why does she put up with that”, being a victim isn’t simple stuff. If someone is harming another person, the former is always my feelings both internal and stated. Abuse is never ok. "Why does she put up with that" is how I feel when I see a woman being dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:30 AM
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lol dude you’re attractive so that’s not an issue. I can be more attractive(but thank you!!! 🥰). I hurt myself biking the other day so my workout progress has been delayed again 😔 it the women you’re choosing to chase? Not sure. Chasing doesn't seem to work for me. Is it attitude about women or behaviours towards women? Among my peers I would say I'm a pretty egalitarian person. My friends often remark that I'm the most liberal among them- being a liberal doesn't make one not a misogynist, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:26 AM
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Don’t put words in my mouth. Please argue with someone who sees women as people who only pick abusers if that’s the kind of person you want to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:10 AM
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Fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:18 AM
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? Would you like me to link you my pictures again? I’ll dm you a picture of myself if you want— I’ve posted myself many times on PPD. Do you want my bank statements too? I am not wealthy, I’m upper middle class, especially for my age. I just went to college and got lucky to get a job in my field right out of college. Nothing flashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:15 AM
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Do you think you’re better than an abuser? If you have not abused a woman, I think you should feel better than them. I am better than racists and homophobes, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:13 AM
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I want my partners to treat me like they desire me— that was the only case it was very apparent. Honestly it was spoiling because I can’t deal with lukewarm treatment anymore. I’ve been trying to get better at managing my expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:48 AM
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That’s why I looksmax. I am ‘objectively’ better than average across many fields— I have enough money, hair, and while I’m short (5’8) it’s not short enough to be doom posting. I’m pretty charismatic too! At least most people seem interested in me— just not romantically. I know that men and women are shallow. I intend to maximize my chances by being as hot as possible and varied as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:13 PM
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I don’t bring them up out of nowhere— that was just the conversation at hand, since that the topic the op brought to the conversation. If I make my own post on the daily I’ll be sure to include all of my stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:22 PM
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Right, then it’s about something else. If I thought the answer was that shittiness was attractive, my question would be “how do I emulate shittiness to be attractive to women? How long would I have to sustain it?” And the reason I focus on shitty men is that every man is a bunch of both good and bad qualities. As far as I’m able to measure myself though, I am a good man. If my measurements are off, I’d like to know why— and that only comes from feedback and iteration. I think I’m already a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:09 PM
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Where did I criticize the women that date shitty men? What I asked was “how do I become attractive enough that women will date me” because men who abusive are still dating. Being shitty is still a negative trait, like being a slob is a negative trait. If the question was ‘how do I become attractive if slobs are attractive and I’m not one and can’t get a partner?’ The answer to that is ‘Being a slob is something people can hide for months before being in a relationship.’ Stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:56 PM
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His boyfriend was a bad person. I want to be married but between me and you if I knew me and my partner could get equal amounts of attention I would have no problem with an open relationship until I have children. I prefer the structure a nuclear family provides. But if I wasn’t interested in having children I wouldn’t even be interested in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:41 PM
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I said my assumptions that people are attracted to morality were wrong. And again, as I have said before, I am not looking to ‘prove’ that I should be more attractive than the men in question because of my morality. What I asked is what makes them more attractive than me. Assuming what makes them more attractive isn’t their immorality, after all. If it is, I’m out of luck. I would rather women date me than a man who is abusive, even if they’re shitty. If they meet me, and like me enough to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:39 PM
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That’s what I want to know. I think I’m fairly cute, but I want to know why my personality is not attractive romantically . Women like me as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:33 PM
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I’m as successful as I want to be in most other aspects of my life. The things I feel I’m lacking in are material and objective. I think you’re understanding my question differently than I’m asking. I don’t care that life isn’t fair. I want to know what im lacking to be attractive. And sure. But if an attractive woman asked me why criminal women were more attractive to men, I could explain why: she’s likely more outgoing and extroverted, and low impulse control makes her more a match for men, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:31 PM
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I think if either women were more like men or men were more like women it would solve a lot more problems than it would create. I would prefer homosexual dating to heterosexual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:17 PM
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I think you’re agreeing with me? My argument is the former, but even in my argument I stated that cheating isn’t what I was talking about. Committing an immoral act of breaking your vows is not a sexuality, like being polyamorous is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:58 PM
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Which is different than a non monogamous relationship— cheating necessitates that the other party is not privy to the information.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:41 PM
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Most people are monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:36 PM
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If that’s the answer leave it that, then. Just say these abusive men get away with it by being attractive. But if that’s the case, please don’t make it seem like I’m doing something wrong for being unable to attract a woman with my personality. It doesn’t matter what I’m like if I’m hot enough, which would be fine for me. I just don’t want to hear that my personality is a problem if it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:49 PM
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Because men with equal sexual access to women are more likely to enjoy being in a non monogamous relationship. The big joke about non monogamy is that the instant a man opens up the relationship he gets nothing and his partner has a date every day. I don’t think the average person would be as angry about this if it wasn’t very uneven.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:25 PM
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I answered another comment why I was attracted to her, but I’ll post it once more here: She treated me like she desired me. She touched me without me having to initiate everything(not sexual. I mean things like holding my hand, putting a hand on my thigh, non sexual, intimate touches). She was really good at making me feel wanted— I’ve never experienced this feeling of “I want you to be here” like her before or again. I suppose this falls under your definition of charm. I don’t know how to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:22 PM
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She treated me like she desired me. She touched me without me having to initiate everything(not sexual. I mean things like holding my hand, putting a hand on my thigh, non sexual, intimate touches). She was really good at making me feel wanted— I’ve never experienced this feeling of “I want you to be here” like her before or again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:20 PM
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Because I am clearly, emphatically, better than those man. They are worth the bottom of my shoe. If, somehow, these worthless pieces of garbage seem to be able to get partners easily, what does that say about me? That’s the feeling most men have when they ask this question. I don’t think any of us are aspiring abusers. It just feels like people speak out of both sides of their mouth on this issue. I understand that looks are a primary factor. But I guess I’m surprised that I’m so unattractive it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:18 PM
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If people want to lie about the answer to something, I would like to hear their justification. Most people when pressed will come up with any deflection to not say what you did, and I wanted to see if anyone will ever give me an argument that convinced me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:15 PM
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I don’t think it was a misread. I didn’t mean to imply that’s what you said— what I meant is that if someone said those combinations of words to me I would leave them instantly. I don’t have to be the hottest person ever for them, but they do need to desire me deeply, and me them, physically and emotionally. I don’t consider it fine to have only one of the two. I don’t think tiered treatment of people should be a thing— if you aren’t going to treat a 3 to the best of your ability, leave them alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:12 PM
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I guess the question I(we) are asking is about what that charm and attraction is. Am I not bold enough? That’s the only reason I can really see for myself personally, but other people have other issues. I’ve been in relationships that were abusive before. There were clear signs I ignored because I was attracted to her. In retrospect if someone asked me what she did that attracted me to her, that a more mentally healthy woman wouldn’t have done, I could answer. I guess I am hoping for the same he…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:40 AM
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I think ‘is this what you aspire to’ is a disingenuous question because it goes without saying that abusers are disgusting. However, they are able to get something I am not able to get(a relationship) so people like the op and myself are left wondering what exactly are they doing to have what we want, when we are told that what they do is bad. If I suddenly found out women were attracted to abusers, I wouldn’t become an abuser. I would just be incredibly sad and dissatisfied with my life, that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:22 AM
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Thanks! I need to sleep and get ready to clean the air bnb but this genuinely improved my mood after doomscrolling through ppd for an hour thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:15 AM
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I’ve been mostly gearing up for this bachelor party because I’m the best man. But a week or two ago I hit a 17 game win streak with the new character 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:09 AM
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Yeah I’d do the latter part no problem, if I liked her otherwise. I wouldn’t make her my girlfriend but sex is fun even if I’m not being pleasured.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:05 AM
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My friends bachelor party just ended tonight, and I looked back at this place again. God, PPD is extremely annoying. I did 5 days straight of grass touching— hiked, kayaked, went dancing, ran a few miles, and really enjoyed life just to come back here and debate if girls like nice boys Anyway see you guys tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:00 AM
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I don’t understand the idea behind competition at all. Why the fuck would i care that another man is sleeping with another girl? I just don’t get the logic behind being ‘protective’ of dating advice. If I live in IL USA why would I care about snatching up the young hot women in Vancouver? It just makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:58 AM
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The example you stated and most examples of what is reinforced by gender roles are enforced in part by women if not fully by women and their attraction. If women were attracted to men who cried ‘boys don’t cry’ would be erased in a single generation, I’d bet one million dollars on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:53 AM
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This doesn’t work unless you’re naturally attractive and extroverted. Happy for you if this works for you though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:44 AM
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It’s genuinely better for the man the alternative tbh. Women deal with porn sick men all the time, but they don’t deal with desperate ones at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:38 AM
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I think if a man said that to his partner she should absolutely break up with him and never talk to him again. This example sorta solidifies the idea to me that if a woman doesn’t desire me sexually I don’t want her to ‘warm up to me’ in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:34 AM
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I really think people who have not actually dated in this current generation does not actually understand the problem the men currently dating are talking about. No offense I just think you have a total blind spot here— I think your experience actually detracts from your ability to see that the dating game has changed and the expectations with it. I promise you the more feminine traits i exhibit the less a girl is attracted to me. The traits that make someone a good partner and what makes someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:25 AM
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A woman without online dating has an easier time meeting a man and setting up a date than the inverse too, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:19 AM
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It’s just not cheating— because they never entered into a monogamous relationship in the first place. Like gay men, the men who are interested in sleeping around while having a partner will have conversations with these women. More likely, they string them along and date them as long as possible while sleeping around uncommitted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:16 AM
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Women should *absolutely* care whether or not the man is acting or truly feeling things. I’d be extremely shocked if you were correct on this— otherwise you’re telling me that lying to women is what I *should* be doing to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:11 AM
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I feel like loud obnoxious guys who don’t care about other people’s feelings tend to have loud obnoxious girlfriends who don’t care about people’s feelings. But if you don’t care about women or their opinions you likely don’t care that she’s annoying and mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:14 PM
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I have been extremely fortunate as far as my friends go! My friends are so kind and nice. My therapist actually caught me out with my buddies after session and they remarked on how loved I looked and I bawled in the office, lol. Still though. My friends I’m talking about are married to eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:08 PM
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I try to be very kind and treat everyone the way I’d like to be treated. People think I’m funny and nice so I just be funny and nice. I also have a very dry humor that’s quick with punchlines and observational humor which is why I like someone witty and observant to pick up what I’m putting down. I think I’m very socially aware/anxious, but I take medication for it now. I like to dress cute and talk cute so I care a lot about fashion and clothes and am able to talk about that stuff with girls to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:05 PM
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I think I’m able to do this and people seem to like me. I really think that the kind of person I am just isn’t sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:48 PM
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Watching someone’s naked body whilst thinking about the existing reality of them regretting it removes the fun out of it for me. It leaves me feeling bad instead of good. This is what I think causes the negative feelings for me. It's not fun anymore. This might be a weird comparison, but do you know the artist D4vd? He killed his minor girlfriend(allegedly... 🙄), and his music heavily referenced his crimes. I don't have problems listening to music from criminals. But hearing a song that is about…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:23 PM
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I just need to become hot enough that these aren't problems for the woman I'm seeing Tbh avoidant might be a problem, but I don't think I am much these days just not willing to deal with things that make me mad or not want to see a woman again. I don't know what I'm supposed to do about introvertedness, though. I feel lik eI'm doing all I can and burning out bc of it already
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:48 PM
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Thank you for answering the question! Sometimes when I ask questions like this to examine my own views, because a comment(like yours) made me pause and think about something I've never thought about before. When I was typing out my pervious comment, I felt the distaste about consuming porn that the actress regretted. I'm trying to figure out why that is. I think morally I should be consistent because I truly don't think there is any problem with watching and enjoying a film an actor hated acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:45 PM
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Sure is a lot of weeks between episodes, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:21 PM
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That’s fine. They can all be great wing women and a great vouch. Most forks have female friends who, co workers, classmates, sisters, cousins, horny divorced aunt, etc…… The one time this did happen is the OCD ex that's dating a former friend of mine now. Not much luck in the set up department.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:04 PM
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I go to all the events I can and have fun. But I don’t have a gf… so I’m wondering where I went wrong. Apparently a girl and I were supposed to have some friends to lovers arc but I don’t really believe in it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:45 PM
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Most of my temporary friends became permanent friends. My dnd groups stayed together my high school friends stayed together and within their partners extended friend groups I have made actual friends from that. It’s very unfortunate I did all this while looking for a girlfriend because now I have all these friends and no gf, lol. Right now I see probably a random combination of 10 friends every month, with like 5 being the same 5 people every month, assuming there are zero parties that month. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:43 PM
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Tbh I completely get the argument that some people can be trafficked or not consent. I don't agree that because you regret making the porn its bad to consume. Not exactly the same thing, but there are definitely movie stars that regret roles they were in. I don't think it's wrong to enjoy those movies anyway. Is it just the sensitivity of sexual content?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:31 PM
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People say to go out and make friends and not try to think about finding a partner, how many friends do you have? Doesnt make any sense to me- I don't want any more friends. I seriously don't have the capacity. Are you guys going to birthdays every weekend and events every single week day or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:21 PM
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I'm not a huge boob fan. I mean looking at them is nice and all, but the reason I like them is because I enjoy the amount of pleasure a girl can get from me touching them. I mean the feel is nice too, but if I was just going for that I'd go for the butt. I'm a fan of firmer pillows. 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:08 PM
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Yes, that's why I'm losing money investing, so that I can get super lucky win the lottery and then I don't have to worry about my world imploding on me or I lose all my money and nothing changes because the world is still imploding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:55 PM
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The least charitable interpretation of this arrangement is that he's pimping out his wife in exchange for mario games
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:50 PM
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This is my strategy. I literally can't tell what's wrong with me or why I haven't had a girlfriend, so the only solution left imo is to just become so hot that whatever is wrong with me is offset by her looking at me and forgetting it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:49 PM
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Right, but things like the land, pollution rates, building rubble, signs of life- all things we would be able to see even if there existed intelligent life millions of years ago, and unless actual magic was real I just don't think all of that stuff would go away without a trace. The only way I could think this could be true if there actually existed cities under the ocean or something, and we somehow missed all evidence and after millions of years the glass bubble shattered and eroded into nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:58 PM
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For someone you’ve never met before? I guess agree to disagree. I’m not a woman, but if a woman gave me flowers or some equivalent on a first date before we got to know eachother I would be put off. And 3 texts isn’t the issue— that’s easy. It’s the level of commitment and stock you’re putting into someone on a dating app. Again, agree to disagree. I’ve done it before at a woman’s request and it felt extremely inauthentic. I don’t spend enough time on the apps to be talking to anyone as long as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:49 AM
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Not to detract from your point(maybe it adds to it) but I am very scared of driving, so I don’t drive. I choose in a city where public transportation is plentiful. In that same way, some women look at the risk and decide dating men isn’t worth it— and I respect that choice a lot whether or not I agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:16 AM
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Where do you get ‘some guy who isn’t really doing anything’ out of ‘lovebombing examples include sending good morning texts 3 days into matching with someone and giving them flowers before ever meeting’? There are plenty of ways of showing intent that aren’t too aggressive emotionally before you’ve even gotten to know the person. I know I’d be uncomfortable if a girl started up good morning texts on a dating app before we ever met. I’m not sure where you’re from that this is basic socializing. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:05 AM
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Basic effort is not love bombing. A quote from the original post. I used to believe most women were far too wise to be love-bombed and that they would know that any flood of attention coming from a man in a relatively short amount of time was highly suspicious. So this is about love bombing. Unless you think doting on a stranger you have met once 3 days ago is appropriate. I don't use apps ...I seriously don't mean to be rude, but do you date strangers? Like, not a friend of a friend, an actual …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:00 AM
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not skinny I was so close
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:58 AM
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I thought about it but I just don't think it's possible, unless we are actually aliens that seeded earth or something. We've dug down too deep and entered too many ancient caves for me to think there's Atlantis out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:53 AM
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That isn't the expectation though Right but it is the definition of love bombing. As far as I read your comment, you are defending being allured by love bombing- what I am saying is that love bombing is dangerous behavior and it should be screened out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:46 AM
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My play was extremely bad. I was so sure it was going to work out I puta few grand down and the emotional rollarcoaster I had was rough. I'm gonna hold till June 12 to see if the idiot play they are talking about actually happens. This is not financial advice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:48 PM
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third :0 I made some money betting with WSB today I do not recommend it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:14 PM
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Because no one normal treats you like they are in love with you a week into meeting you. You should be concerned if someone treats you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:13 PM
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I do understand it it just kinda seems like a pattern. Like guys who have the kind of personality to be enthralling and collect followers seem like they’re more likely to abuse people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:18 PM
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You think it’s hopeless— I think it’s hopeless too. But I’m going to be kind, and call out unkindness when I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:46 AM
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I don’t want to be judged morally for being unable to get in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:33 AM
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What do you think incredibly lonely, unloved men look like? Do you have an example? I want to know what kind of man you are imagining. I’ve never understood this concept. These women won’t be branded. There are men like me who do not care(I do not care if a partner of mine was formerly a sex worker. If only care if she was still active…. And even then. I think I could get over solo content. And if they don’t want someone like me, they are free to, I dunno, move to a different city. No one should…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:15 PM
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Reread my answer to your initial question— the first sentence please, right after I quoted you. You’re the one who keeps dropping arguments, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:55 PM
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And I personally think it should be on the men to take this birth control role since the women are having sex with them for their (the mens) benefit. The women aren't having sex for men they are having sex for money. Unless you're saying this is some sort of volunteer thing? Its a thing the women are doing for the men against the women's desire. And the women ggetting her tubes tied is super invasive as a surgery. The women are doing this for money, not men. I don't do my job for anyone but the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:44 PM
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It is however annoying as all heck to the people around you. Then say that and leave it there. Do you enjoy listen to people complaining? I genuinely don't mind it. I like to help if I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:33 PM
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We can't actually know for sure that oysters don't feel pain anyway. Agreed it's such a poor justification to eat them imo. People used to think lobsters don't feel pain when you steam them. People STILL think that. Plants are alive but don't feel pain. What's the meaningful difference between them and an oyster besides taxonomy? If I could eat exactly how I wished, I would probably stick to grain, fruits, and veggies that don't kill the plant. I don't think we can sustain ourselves without some…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:28 PM
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Idk, I think people would be better off if children weren't being born into state sanctioned prostitution. Is what you're saying that you don't want to deal with accidental pregnancies as a result of state sanctioned prostitution? Or are you saying children shouldn't be born into a world where that exists? We already exist in a world where that has existed for thousands of years so I assume you mean the former. Since it can be deadly or way more invasive for the women to get sterilized A contrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:20 PM
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It's also active vs passive harm, e.g. the Trolley Problem. Harder to rationalize active engagement vs lack of action. By eating the oysters, you're not killing them. You're eating what is already dead. Passively your consumption contributes to the demand though. I was actually saying the opposite, haha. I shuck my own oysters. I have to kill them myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:05 PM
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Yes, the act of you complaining is what you are judge on. It's not immoral to complain. If I see a vent post I don't like I just keep scrolling. "all the shit that happens to people, and this guy over there thinks getting laid is the world biggest problem." Serious question: Do you actually believe that dating is largely the same for everyone- lets just say every man on ppd. And if you do think it is, do you think this is a justified response to someone's suffering? Even if you went through the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:02 PM
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Idk, I think if you're partaking in something as drastic as sex work you should be ok with your kid getting into it Okay, and I'm okay with it. 'Okay with it' doesn't mean actively encourage. I like movies and consume movies but I wouldn't actively encourage my child to be an actor. So now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:47 PM
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What's even more fucked up is that I'm vegan(ish?), but even that is debatable. I do kill insects in my house. Not 100% if it's reasonable I can relocate them, and I try to give flies a chance to fly back out the door, but still. I still feed my dog animal products. I'm happy for you- I'm sort of the opposite. I realize I'm a super hypocrite eating meat but I do everything in my power to not kill an insect. I dunno why, when I was like 7 years old I was stomping bugs outside and something in me …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:45 PM
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What else could I be manipulated to kill so easily? It's easy to kill what you hate, but what about killing what you don't even mind or have any strong feelings about? Is all that it takes is rhetoric about crop devastation, or some other semi-existential threat? I can't answer the first for you, but the fact that we accept the slaughter of animals for food in western countries at this point when we simply don't need to weighs incredibly on my conscious. I can't help but think in 200 years the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:24 PM
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People judge you on your words and actions. No one besides maybe your family cares if you are in a relationship at all. No one cares about me being a millionaire either. But if I try to be a millionaire and fail and complain about it, no one comes out of the woodwork and pontificates on how if only you were a better person you'd actually be a millionaire now. No one besides maybe your family and friends care about anything you do. Dating, courtship, and attraction are spoken about through a lens…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:20 PM
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I watch boxing, too. What other adults do with their bodies has nothing to do with me. I don't do it, and I don't my child to do it, but I don't care about the fact that there are people out there that want do to it. 🤷 "I am a huge supporter of X, but don't you dare do X" My stance is something closer to "Hey, I don't want you to do x, but if you want to do x when you're an adult that's none of my business." I think the goal as a parent is to teach your children what I know and think about the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:11 PM
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It is about tje child having to be raises by a shitty father. And a man seeking state sanctioned prostitution is Definitely proof of being a HORRIBLE father ...? Why? My opinion on prostitution is that I wouldn't want my daughter to do it in the same way I don't want my son to go into Boxing or Football. If either of my kids went into any of those fields I wouldn't approve of it or financially support that goal, but I would still love and support my child. Is this somehow a radical take? He has …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:05 PM
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I think the underlying fantasy people have is that if they get others to acknowledge their exclusion/struggles as unfair, then it will increase their dating outcomes/desirability. No. I would just like to hope that if they acknowledged it was unfair I wouldn't be judged morally nor put down because I'm not able to access what's supposedly easily accessible to 'normal people'. The issue is that most people do not arrive at attraction via moral reasoning. Yes, but they do use morality as a post-ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:58 PM
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I'm maybe 4million of the 37 million watches on this video I love it sm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:54 PM
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HE SAID THE THING HE LITERALLY SAID THE WORDS
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:51 PM
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You may or not believe it, but I'm the wokler among my boy's friend group, lol. I'm probably still to the left of average among my female friends too- and I think I niche max towards both being and appealing to left wing type of women. I'm not a socialist or commie tho, so I'm too right wing for a lot of left wing women I'm attracted to out there. Shame. 😔 I don't think right wingers ever larp as left wingers, they just dodge and obfuscate so that you aren't sure what they after. Actual lefties …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:44 PM
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You already saw it but I got a pair of jorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:37 PM
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Vennu Mallesh - It's My Life What Ever I Wanna Do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:36 PM
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I know I got the HPV Vaccine and thought to myself "Why do I even need this it's not like I'm gonna have sex any time soon" So I must have been younger than 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:33 PM
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No I meant your ex girlfriend Oh. I don't like either of them. She's caused me tons of problems in my personal relationships during the relationship and after. That is true, even though I've heard men say women are willing to change for their man, including adopting his religion and ideology. I'm not going to lie, I see this that this happen all the time constantly. It's actually crazy, lol. It is equally toxic to fake a belief just to have sex with a woman Yes, I agree. I'm against lying in any…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:31 PM
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Oh OK well I hope there was no bad blood between you two and that she leaves him eventually when she finds out Between me and him? After this? I used to not be angry about it before but after the way he's acted around this I've grown to dislike him a lot. He's a coward for multiple reasons least of which is just talking to me like an adult. But that really does make me question why a man would do that there are still plenty of women who aren't real feminists and are more traditional or even one'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:20 PM
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An example would be the way some people post about craving sex But I feel the same way as them, largely. I'm actually losing my mind. how women SHOULD choose them. I agree this is cringe at best and very misogynistic/fascistic at worst. I guess I don't feel guilty having a shared identity with guys like this(an identity I had no say in adopting as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:46 PM
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Wait do you mean they pretend they were lesbians and tricked them? I mean not tricked. The situation is a lot different- a lesbian friend of mine was having doubts about her whole 'not being attracted to men' thing and so she asked a friend she could trust if they could try. She wasn't that into it so they didn't do it again, but I doubt it was a terrible experience for the man, lol. Honestly I think you should or at least give her a hint, but you might feel bad for ruining her relationship so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:43 PM
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Not the current way it’s being expressed! Putting aside the objectifying and rude posts/comments on social media, it comes across as very needy and almost feels like calling for women to take pity on you and letting you hit. But see, you realize you haven't given a solution you just told men(again) that you don't like what they are doing. I think a large part of the problem and why we have so many men in the manosphere is because people who don't believe in manosphere ideas didn't actually help …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:39 PM
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But ‘Treat women like people’ isn’t a response to ‘How do I have varied and multilayered friendships with women’ it’s a response to ‘how do I get a girlfriend?’
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:32 PM
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On the other hand, some men befriend lesbian women while still hoping she'll change her mind just to have sex with her Yes this is bad and short sighted. However I know men who have had this happen to them with their friends they thought were lesbian, actually- so. I have also heard of men who pretend they are feminists and blue pill in order to have sex with women while their male friends say they don't actually think this way I have a friend like this(friend is a strong word) and it's maddenin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:30 PM
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For one they're female-only, so I can't counter-argue. This is why I hate the recommendations. I actually want to respect women's spaces even when I think the arguments within those spaces are really stupid and I want to argue with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:27 PM
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🤷 How would you prefer we express our desire for sex and relationship? very embarrassing for our gender Why does your gender mean anything to you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:24 PM
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I agree that this is good practice for being a good person I guess I just don't see it rewarded in the dating market, it's neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:23 PM
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I don't fully disagree with you here- but I will slightly push back on this: just like I see the men who don't befriend women they wouldn't sleep with as inhuman, they could be treating their male friends terribly but that's not because of a sex they can't change I mean I get the implication, but what implies they can't treat this woman well? Most people actually pair up, even in friendship, along similar attractiveness lines. It's rare to see a huge swing in attractiveness throughout a friend g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:21 PM
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proven wome are capable of seeing others as humans more so than men, and alot men on this sub specifically have proven they don't Okay, but what does this mean? I mean, 'treat people the way you want to be treated' is a good start, but 'treat women like people' says nothing because treating people on the whole like 'people' does not mean treating them well. Additionally while it isn't your fault the OP is using the term 'treat women like people' in a very weird way. I still don't agree with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:39 PM
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So the argument is that women treat men and women like people and men treat men and women as less than people? Does this mean that I should treat people the way women have treated me, historically?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:18 PM
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Didn't see this yeah good luck 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:16 PM
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How possible this is entirely based on what you mean by alternative music
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:15 PM
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If men treat men worse than women, and women want men to treat women like people... which treatment are you comparing his treatment of women to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:12 PM
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I'm confused what does this mean
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:40 PM
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I think it’s just the fact that it’s my life. Full of stories of people who didn’t plan properly and spend the next 20 years scraping by for money or working as a Walmart greeter at 80. It’s a terrifying life to stare at at least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:29 PM
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Thank you, but you know what they say about plans. Im so unbelievably stressed about this stuff(tbf it is my job) that I’m ‘that guy’ who wont shut up about investing and retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:08 PM
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I would much much prefer they told the truth here or I’d be incredibly sad! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:52 PM
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But that’s why I’m working as hard as I am to have so many assets. My pension should be able to cover assisted living expenses provided I can keep working in this field. And I am trying to have a diverse enough pre tax and post tax portfolio so that no matter what happens I can be as prepared as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:41 PM
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Don't you just love america 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:02 PM
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My money makes more money invested than the taxes on my student loans are taxing me. It makes more sense to pay it slowly over time rather than just getting rid of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:58 PM
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I would tell them not to and that I can pay it off whenever I want to. I just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:56 PM
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I love to cook for my friends, I treat my sister when we go out, and I buy my friends gifts when I think of them. But these are people are share bonds with, not women I don't know yet. All that aside, if you’re really poor or really stingy, there are lots of free things you can do on a date. I pay for dates because I have the money to afford it, but there isn't a part of me that enjoys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:26 PM
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Look how men interact with each other when a pretty woman comes around - they’ll often insult the other and try to make their friends sound worse than themselves. While I will grant that some loser men act like this, this isn't eliminating men as a whole from the dating pool. This is them trying to remove their friend as an option to the individual woman he's trying to impress. I also think that men highly overestimate how well they please their partners sexually. I can only go by what my partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:17 PM
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What do you mean by ‘realize?’ I’m glad that you like it— but meeting new people is free. I don’t find it fun to meet someone new but have to pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:14 PM
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Lol no it's ok! Honestly it's very minor so I don't really complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:50 PM
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Thank you AMC 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:36 PM
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My philosophy is that I'll probably ease up on the idea of FIRE if I meet a woman and get married. My plan is that if I turn 37 and still don't have a wife, I'm just going to ramp up my savings for the next 5 years after and then retire, and move out of the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:32 PM
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It’s honestly a pretty good strategy for men use to eliminate their competition. 🤔 Do you think there is some secret forum where all these guys meet up to concoct similar stories of their wives not being interested in sex? Or that there is small cabal of men running this operation? I kinda think it has to be true on some level. I’m 99% sure those type of comments are just other people trying to bait anxious, risk adverse men into being terrified of relationships. I am an anxious risk adverse man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:30 PM
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I’ve made 12 whole dollars so far following Wall Street bets advice :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:16 PM
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I like it because I like to reply to people to reply to me, but I hate when I get a notification, excitedly click on it, and then it's just some random shit from an offshoot conversation in a thread. I still leave it on sometimes because sometimes I enjoy reading the conversation branches, but that's only 1 in every 10 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:00 PM
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Thank you! I noticed it when I was doing my taxes for the first time- that's what made the idea of fire real for me. I'm just a very pessimistic person- hoping for more than I have hasn't gone well for me in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:58 PM
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I love the frugal subreddits and use those often, too. Maybe I'll check out the poverty subreddits, but the reason I'm like this is because my parents came from nothing and have ardent saving principals that's made me really neurotic about this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:53 PM
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I know that, but living like that sounds so stressful. So long as my life is tied to employment my entire world can be ripped away from me if I lose my job. If I can keep up the amount of saving I'm doing for at least the next 16 years I will feel secure but I don't think I will feel secure until then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:50 PM
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I'm currently above that mark. It just doesn't feel like enough. There's more that I could be doing if I were more dedicated and I think knowing that makes me even more anxious because if the cards come crumbling down it's because I didn't do enough, and then I'm destitute despite how much I'm already sacrificing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:48 PM
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I agree, that's why I'm so stressed out. I think I need to retire with 2.5M and that's being conservative. I can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:44 PM
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I'm rich in friendship, but I'm currently poor in finances, love and in health. Finances will help with the health and love aspect so i need to give it a lot of attention i mean, in the fire sub you’re gonna feel that way. I work in the retirement industry(lol, that's pretty funny to say) so this is kind of all my job is about really. My thoughts gravitate towards this stuff constantly even if I wasn't on the subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:39 PM
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I agree with you I need to make so much more money I need a third job
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:35 PM
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I have autism please understand 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:34 PM
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I can't help but be extremely panicked about the future. I'm spending more money than I'm making post retirement savings(health tanked and multiple weddings in the same year 😭) so maybe I'm just more anxious than I should be because this is an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:33 PM
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I actively participate in looksmaxxing yes— I soft looksmatch and have a complicated skin routine, hair care system and take preventative measures towards hair loss, exercise, stuff like that. I have a lot of trouble with the diet— I’ve had some setbacks regarding gaining weight but I hope to get back on the wagon soon. I also consider fashion a part of soft looks maxing. Something I like to call niche maxing— I’m an alt guy with alt interests so I try to dress fashionable but with edge. Why do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:23 PM
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I know comparison is the thief of joy but is everyone on reddit a fucking millionaire? Am I fucking up somewhere? People are talking about how having 700k vested feels like nothing. I really need to stop looking at the FIRE subreddit it's making me going crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:11 PM
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I watched this and it's the exact advice you'd expect from wikihow If this was possible for you to do you would have already taken this advice and done this. If I could do this I wouldn't want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:57 PM
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His interviews make him sound more Ace than gay. 'I'd rather my dick not work and mog than have a working dick and not be able to use it' sounds ace to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:19 PM
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Depends on the space you're trying to operate in. Attractiveness standards fluctuate between communities and subgroups, but being white has the most absolute general appeal yeah. So is being 6 feet tall as a man. There's nothing to be done about it, so we work with what we have. I normally date in communities where my body type is a bit more appealing and dress very well, while realizing that my blackness is a negative in mass appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:42 PM
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Nah i scrolled through Pinterest for a few mins and they go from neutral to ugly for me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:26 PM
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I don’t think clav is gay. He’s just autistic, and noticed a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:24 PM
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I read it and honestly my only opinion is that babydoll dresses are ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:20 PM
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When you say take turns, are you saying when you and a group of people go out, you pay for everything one day. Then on another day someone else pays for everyone? That's not something I understand. Or inviting someone to a movie and paying, and then they invite you to a concert and pay? Why don't you just pay your way for both is what I don't get and then everything's chill. If I don't want to do something bc it's too expensive that's chill my friend will go with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:13 PM
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Why is everyone so mad at this post it's really easy to engage with and should be easy to debunk guys I mean I know it's a bait post but you can't be like "This is a bait post!" but get baited anyway lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:08 PM
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the argument was if the judge was hotter than him. And the judge absolutely mogged Clavicular. I mean I agree but we are both older than Clav. yeah, he is conventionally hot, of course, I'm not saying that, but he also looks like a child, he has baby face syndrome. He's young too so we'll see if he gets rid of that trait when he gets older Isn't he young? It will reduce with time/he will speed it up with more surgery and look worse when he's 35. If he's trying to attract his age range his face i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:07 PM
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But we can point to hetro women's reactions to him, right? I don't think he's all that attractive in the face but if girls call him attractive he has to be at least above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:03 PM
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More often than not, their interest in women seems to only exist in context of impressing other men. People say this but I just don't think this is true. If no one would ever know I had sex with a woman it wouldn't change my preferences at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:01 PM
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I have a thing for not being paid for, it makes me very uncomfortable. So I'm glad it's not really a thing I've dealt with in my friend circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:58 PM
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I get that- I just rented a 4k airbnb for my roommates wedding. But I only do that because I trust my friends to venmo me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:14 PM
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I mean I can too, but I want to save my money, lol. My friends can also cover for everyone, but I want them to save their money too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:13 PM
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I think so too. I’m sick of people making up justifications as to why they want something. Just please say it with your chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:57 PM
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with good friends it usually all works out some way or another. like one of my friends paid me for watching her dogs with artwork recently. a friend is cooking me dinner next week. the next time we hang out i’ll cover dinner. My friends operate a lot more like this- pizza in exchange for helping move, dinner nights where all of us contribute a dish, beer/weed at the party in exchange for us hosting, stuff like that. But this is fairly rare. Dating, and initiating a date as a man is not rare. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:51 PM
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So when I finally got taller I didn't get taller so all my girl friends stayed friends. lol jeez, I could have stopped there. Look I love my female friends too, but you were literally blessed. I'm happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:48 PM
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I took one part of the body of your argument because I thought it detracted from your overall point. I don't super disagree with your ultimate take, I only said I could definitely imagine a scenario in which sexuality was dictated by immoral agents, haha. If a bunch of bad people are having sex, but none of them want to have sex with a “good guy” is any given individual in that group committing an immoral act by not having sex with that dude? If they aren't attracted to him because of his moral …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:44 PM
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Yes, and if a bunch of individuals collectively decide to fuck liars and thieves, for example, it creates a culture where lying and theft are promoted. This makes it a bad society. Now I'm not saying this is true of any place, I was only refuting the line I quoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:37 PM
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I'm a little confused I think. Are you saying this could be the case for other people? In that case I agree with you, but the original topic was about people saying 'the person who invites the other pays'. I mean yeah sure if I was asking a girl on one date a year that makes sense but weekly/more than once a week as we get to know eachother...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:35 PM
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but i’ve paid for friends when it makes sense, like if the activity is more for me or if i really want the company but money is tight for them. I saw your comment on this and low key I did wanna ask about this but I didn't wanna necro it lmao. I have never asked a friend who's thing it wasn't to come with me for something I was interested in. I have friends for all the different things I am into- movie friends, concert friends, partying friends, dnd friends, etc etc. If I ever wanna do something…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:31 PM
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Ngl if someone did that to me I'm never going out to eat with them again 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:28 PM
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Why would being involuntarily celibate be a moral failing? I don’t think it is no. I just wanted to ask for consistency's sake. And what you’re suggesting, is controlling “society”? And society is made up of individuals. It’s individuals that give other individuals sex and love Culture is what makes society more than a collection of individuals. A society that promotes characteristics that leads to immoral outcomes is an immoral society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:27 PM
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It's so weird. When i read posts like this it's basically if she walked into the room and didn't fell in love with you at the first sight and didn't lust to the point of jumping you straight away - then walk away. And men call women delusional after this. No, that's not what he's talking about. I know exactly what he's talking about. The kind of girl that's interested in you doesn't have to be lusting all over you and that wasn't his argument- but she should communicate interest. Have you ever m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:24 PM
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lol sorry for misinterpreting. Here you can either split the check based on purchase, or split the check evenly— I thought you meant the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:23 PM
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For my friends it’s always been pay your own way. That way if you want more expensive stuff there you’re able to get that, if you don’t you don’t have to. Everyone’s happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:18 PM
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I guess I don't really hang out with people who earn significantly less than me. My social sphere all make around the same amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:14 PM
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And to suggest it’s an inherent moral failing of any given individual, or society, because they are not wilfully giving you sex or love, is entitlement. I wouldn't put it on the individual, and I would never argue this for myself- but logically, if you imagined a society where the desired traits for mating were traits that were anti social, and as a result collapsed the society- wouldn't you say that there is a failing in that society? I'm not sure if moral failing is the right word, but we woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:11 PM
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I’ve never 6 7’d someone’s nuts before 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:09 PM
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I don't wanna necro a conversation from 11 hours ago here but you guys really pay for your for your friends when you do shit with them? That's insane. I mean I don't wanna disbelieve people who do that but it's a total shock to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:00 PM
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I guess bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:52 PM
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Yes, but only one partner. She had really bad OCD. Not saying it isn't a good practice! Just noting that the only person that asked me had really bad medical anxiety and OCD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:51 PM
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I think the Bechdel test is kinda a poor metric for seeing if someone cares about women or not. Half of people on earth are men, so if you're ever telling someone something relational, depending on the conversation you can have a 50/50 shot of bringing up a man in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:50 PM
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I agree with destiny here, and you. But, I think at baseline men have a lower standard for what makes them happy, and happy works different for men than it seems to women. Most men are happy if a woman crosses 70% of their boxes, women would not be happy with that distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:07 PM
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You can't orient yourself too be attractive to one woman- it's impossible without being able to read many women's minds. You should be doing as much as possible to have both deep appeal within your subculture while getting as much wide appeal markers if you can. If you're into skateboarding chicks, yes learn the lingo and learn how to skateboard, immerse yourself in the culture. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be broadening your appeal. Grow muscle, get a haircut that suits you(You can incor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:59 PM
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I might as well swipe on them. What’s the difference between .001 and .0001 really.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:51 PM
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I am the same way, but I wonder if I should be even more discerning with looks, I hate the mental effort dating apps take from me. Maybe it’s worth even less matches if it means I actually feel like setting up a date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:15 PM
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Yeah, I wasn’t paying much attention when typing. I meant conceivably attractive, but when I mean that I mean like “yeah I could get to know you and maybe find you attractive/maybe I’m not seeing something in the picture”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:04 PM
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Even if they don’t find me attractive it’s worthless to get a match with someone I find unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:00 PM
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I try to keep my match rate high by swiping on people more likely to swipe me back I do think being not attractive impacts it but I think your match rate % is probably more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:00 PM
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Doesn’t that ruin your elo?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:55 PM
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I think I should try doing the latter. I think the former just leads to burn out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:52 PM
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On dating apps, when you guys swipe- are you swiping on everyone you could conceive of yourself being attracted to, or only people you actually find very attractive? I don't think it makes much of a difference for men, but I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:44 PM
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Me too tbh. I don't see why this wouldn't be optimal even if your goal is to want marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:31 PM
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I want to have sex with people I am attracted to and I want the people I have sex with to be attracted to me. I want a woman who can't wait for me to get home so that she can jump my bones and then we can watch critical role together. The simp strategy caters to men who want a respectable wife he can point to as social proof even if she isn't attracted to him, only what he does. That sounds like hell on earth to me. And "betas" "prey" on someone more secure. They aren't the predators in this sce…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:30 PM
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If you truly understood and emphasized with women then you’d view our reaction EVEN to the warm approaches as less of an issue. Me saying that my problems are not something that are reasonable to be solved, because a woman's safety is more important than my desire to have a girlfriend is me acknowledging it's not an issue worth changing the world over. Imagine being me, dealing with all that chaos and seeing multiple guys complain about women being stand offish even if they mean no harm…yet igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:48 PM
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I understand the real issue, but what am I supposed to do about that in my own life? It only impacts my own life negatively and I have to just hold that. That's fine- some things can be negative for my life but be a net positive in the world. The 'problem' I have is that warm approach is also not encouraged- if you get to know her too long confessing is an issue, if you don't get to know her long enough it is an issue as well. Again, no one has to do anything about it, that's just why I have a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:28 PM
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I'll take 3rd today
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:20 PM
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No, I want children, and it depends on what you mean by average. Average is overweight, and I am not overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:20 PM
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I don’t care about the analogy that much, I’m not attached to it. I just used it because he did. Sorry I'm dragging it. Analogies are the way I see the world and how I explain it, which is why I was using it to be analogous to the main conversation on socializing. I can drop it. To be honest I have had to socialise so much without my consent that I don’t really see it as that voluntary, but I do understand where you’re coming from. My point is that those social circles don’t usually just happen,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:14 PM
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No comment. 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:06 PM
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And the reason I disagreed with the analogy is because unlike swimming, you need the consent of another person to 'practice' relationship building. That's why I suggested the alternative analogy of partnered dancing. Do you think socializing and specifically dating are more like partnered dancing or a triathlon?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:02 PM
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I will hope everything is alright, and the staff treat you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:01 PM
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If I was gay I would give Jesus a chance he's cute humble and has super powers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:57 PM
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oh no! I hope it's for something more minor than what you experienced before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:57 PM
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Forced classroom socialization is not at all like attracting and building a relationship with a woman, though. Those are Wholey different experiences and you can go your entire life without anyone consenting to do that with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:56 PM
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I mean I can clarify if you're confused. Lookism is blackpill rhetoric and the mods here have decided they do not want to debate blackpill talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:55 PM
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"I like a woman with a big ass" isn't really a looks focused conversation. Looks based comments are always allowed ("I am attracted to x, what about you guys?" has always been fine). By looks being banned, it's the discussion on looks being the ultimate deciding factor in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:50 PM
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He's not talking about financial assets here, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:45 PM
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It's much more similar to learning how to partner dance, because swimming does not require the consent of anyone else. you can want to dance all you want but if no one wants to dance with you? You can learn the steps from books and tutorials, but you will not have the experience most other people are expecting out of a dance partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:44 PM
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The op is completely wrong about the definition of status and I have no idea where she got that definition from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:39 PM
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Status is an SMV multiplier, because the more eyes on you there are and the more accolades you have the more likely a woman who is actually attracted to you will notice you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:48 PM
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This is the definition of social skills not status. Unless you think what makes your husband personable is his job title and accolades, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:43 PM
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I have never heard of this in my entire life. I've literally never heard a man say this. As for me, I am very uncomfortable with receiving gifts because of traumas around it- gift giving is basically my anti love language. But I think I'm the weird one- most people, men and women, love a thoughtful present.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:35 PM
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I guess I should have included that it still requires you to put in work on processing what happened to you to benefit. Yeah, and this is going to sound bitter- this is why my bullies are married and I am about to be in year 4 of weekly therapy so that I can begin to be as vulnerable as most normal people, and why I have to take medication when most people do not. I have a great life, other than romantic success, but even if I'm able to become some social savant because of all this additional ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:28 PM
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It’s not “abnormal” to have thick skin. I shouldn't have included thick skin in the list of traits, then. Pretend I didn't add that one and just look at the rest of the examples, then. Trauma happens when you don’t know how to respond to something, so you dread it ever happening again. Sure. But children are irrational, and brain develops fears and traumas without your consent when you're too young to understand the nuance of the situation. I don't think I'd call myself 'traumatized' under that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:08 PM
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Some men can overcome bullying and those guys are fine in life (dating included). The softies end up needing podcasts to find out that women like a good looking man. Being a softie doesn't preclude you from being good looking. You can look as good as you want and style as much as you want, that is not the factor that will change most struggling men's chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:44 PM
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Ew I might be your ex boyfriend because this sounds exactly like me. Except, I cut out all self depreciating humor after highschool because I don't think it's okay to put myself down anymore. He was definitely neurotic though. He overthought everything. This is killer. I need to get high off my ass just to have a normal person's level of neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:42 PM
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I think this is survivorship bias. I'm glad the hard life you had to endure made you a more resilient person. Some bullying and some coping strategies can teach the wrong lessons that take a lifetime to recover from. I can directly trace back my lack of confidence and inability to share my emotions to a very unsafe childhood, and lack of self care and intellectualization of my suffering to my rampant and uncontrolled bullying as a child. Sure, I might have thicker skin and a much higher pain tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:33 PM
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Although I do believe that to be the case I don’t believe that needs go be true for what I said to be true. When i say ‘most women dont want to have sex with most men outside of a relationship’ it would imply that theres a minority of men they might sleep with. While I think this is less true than your statement, i do think that is also the case in some occasions. You’re allowed to think that it isn’t worth it without high standards. What level of importance do you place in a sex life? If it’s v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:30 PM
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I don’t think provider qualities are worth the ROI when it comes to attracting women— I think it’s too easy to find the type of woman who isn’t actually attracted to you. Better to attract her with your looks and personality and have the provider aspect hidden as long as you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:32 AM
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Do I like him? If I like him then yes. If I don’t like him then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:48 AM
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What he was arguing was that men need the confines of a relationship to have sex, because people don’t want to have sex with them outside of the confines of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:13 AM
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You asked if it was worth the social cost of commitment, not if I would have sex with someone I dislike. To answer that question, no, I wouldn’t, but Im not sure how that relates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:20 AM
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I mean it’s worth it because 70 years ago men would get married right after highschool to get married lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:13 AM
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Value for me most would be my humor or kindness. But among the things I want her to value me for it would be my sexual prowess and body. Those probably sit right after humor and kindness in order, then after that would be things like fashion, finances, and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:24 PM
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Yeah I wasn’t just being pedantic when I said this was a harder question to answer. My abs and arms start to burn during missionary and it hurts, and that’s like the most vanilla sex. I don’t think that’s what she’s looking for tho. Some men don’t enjoy blowjobs I know our deep throat’s but most of the tone that’s an issue with sensation for them. It doesn’t feel like much. At least that’s what I’ve heard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:15 PM
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Hmm, i think fisting is more of a fetish than deep throat is. I don’t think it’s analogous because the recipient of the pleasure is different. To have a kink for being the fister is different than having a kink for deepthroat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:52 PM
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Right. And as a man, grab my hair, throw me around? Push me where you want me to be, lmao. The counterpart is guys who feel like eating a girl out is submissive. Very immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:41 PM
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Similarly if a man offered to pay the bills and help with chores and childcare you wouldn’t say no thank you I can do all this free labor would you? No. So why not take advantage of the situation and sweeten the pot? This is completely off topic but I can't imagine how this wouldn't make me supremely uncomfortable. This isn't to cast judgement I would just feel so uncomfortable living the life you made out, I would feel like a complete burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:00 PM
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Well it’s not too surprising that you don’t know any men suggesting it, given that you are (I assume) straight and have sex with women, not men. Sorry I should have clarified. My mix gender friends and I have discussed kinks many times- so these are self reported, I guess. By discomfort I don’t mean mental, but physical. Physical pain and discomfort. Then yes the vast majority of my kinks cause no pain or discomfort, except for deep throating, I guess. But I genuinely don't think that's a kink- …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:55 PM
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If it’s anything to do with degradation, that kinda goes with discomfort unless she’s into that I don't understand this fwiw- how is a facial supposed to be shameful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:46 PM
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It seems like men’s kinks and sexual interests nearly always include things that often cause women pain or discomfort such as deepthroating, anal, choking or spanking Only women in my life have asked for choking and spanking. Not a single man I know has ever suggested it and it's always been suggested by the woman in the cases I've performed them myself. I won't lie, I do enjoy deep throat- but that's because it feels good not because it hurts the woman. I have plenty of kinks that don't involve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:43 PM
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I come here to argue talk and have fun. I know most people aren’t going to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:41 PM
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Yes I agree. If you’re gonna pay it should be very personalized to You and Your Life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:37 PM
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Makes me feel like this https://youtu.be/5zHL7x0zI40?si=C_yWg4m6Eo5U6T1w
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:02 PM
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Yeah I had a good laugh about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:02 PM
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You had me in the intro and lost me in the body. None of those are valid reasons to treat someone as anything other than 'human'. You had something in there I agreed with about it being a different sort of communication than with people you aren't attracted to, but you messed it up with... everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:56 PM
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I tried to report them, it didn't work, and I didn't really care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:47 PM
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NGL, the redistricting thing caught me for a loop as well as the 1.8 billion irs refund to himself and his children as well as complete political immunity wasn't on my bingo card.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:30 PM
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Someone literally blocked me to have the last word here lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:23 PM
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I never ragebait I joybait 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:23 PM
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I'm low key very scared for the next 5 years or so. The median voter is so... uniquely intelligent that I'm hoping if nothing else gas being expensive will wake them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:20 PM
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Oh I completely agree with that. Reaaaaaaally hoping things change by 2028.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:05 PM
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Most men don't feel comfortable opening up and being vulnerable with their friends, fearful it will be met with dismissal and mockery. Y'know i've heard people say this about other people, but does anyone feel this way about their friends? If I felt like there's a chance of this they wouldn't be my friends. Anyway, your title sort of dies on arrival to me, bc a man can(as in is able to) find friends to confide in. As some commenters have said already if a man is not actively seeking relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:01 PM
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Which is why the data shows such persistent overlaps between the manosphere and MAGA/right wing/fascist/supremacist/libertarian/etc. ideologies. I think using the blanket term manosphere here is a little unfair. I'm pretty sure I've seen surveys showing incels are on average more left wing than men who have had sex. I just think the types to externalize their suffering are more likely to be right wing. Additionally this is anecdotal but i've seen PUAs across the political spectrum. It's fallen o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:57 PM
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The irony is that most successful long-term relationships start with emotional comfort, friendship, trust, humor, and basic social warmth. But TRP often treats platonic connection as either weakness, manipulation, or a failed sexual strategy. This just isn't true. Most ltrs start online these days, at least according to the data. And even if this were true, it still misses key things that differentiate a relationship from a friendship. If you were next to someone who was your perfect person but …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:53 PM
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To be honest in order to monetize redpill you must be a grifter. The original intent was to open source a guide on how to attract women, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:51 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8pVfqGH/ my goat
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:11 PM
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No prob I get it! But yeah. I think having goals I have no control over is really the big problem. The things I actually want in life aren’t in my control. Funny enough, I reread the thread again. Maybe it is a factor of things being too easy? I don’t really like to challenge myself, though…. Hm. Something to think on I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:35 PM
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Maybe that’s my problem. I don’t really want anything. A lot of what I have I have because it made the most logical choice for me to do those things. The only thing I want and don’t have is a girlfriend, and it’s not as I can just work hard enough that one will appear in my lap, you know? Lol. When I cook a good meal for my friends I tend to feel how you do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:19 PM
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I wish I was like that- this is essentially a vent post about the way my brain works, lol. I really do enjoy making people happy. That's probably the thing that gets me up in the morning more than anything else. But no schooling or work has ever given me any fulfillment, it's only neutral to dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:01 PM
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Listen man it's about overall volume not just length bro(coping)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:51 PM
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Yeah but I don’t get a feeling of accomplishment I more or less get a feeling of like, that’s how it’s supposed to be? The best I can relate is street fighter bc I’m really good lol. I am not happy that I can perform the motions to do stuff, all just feels right with the world when i can and things are ‘wrong’ when my body and brain are in discordance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:48 PM
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I think the circles she operates in the chances of her finding that are very low and hot guys are basically treated like hot women in populations where they are low. Its similar in atlanta.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:47 PM
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Ashley is female freak representation, and I am here for it 🙏 I liked solider boy too, despite what I have said previously! Are you gonna watch the prequel?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:32 PM
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I was about to say, my advice would have been totally different if I knew she was from SF
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:29 PM
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Everyone has their line, lol. I still keep up with the show culturally and I love Ashley! She's one of my favorite characters so when a clip comes up I'm always happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:25 PM
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no bullshit I was on a road trip to Mississippi and back and knew we were close to home because I started to be able to see miles of flat land ahead 🥰 But ok fine I'm probably gonna go to Washington state next year and if I don't care about the hiking there either I'm suing you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:20 PM
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But you feel that way at the time you met your current partner? What I'm saying more or less is that you can't project that aura of "finally I can stop trying to date' .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:17 PM
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That's what I figured, lol. But damn, if you're off hinge that's tough. Again this is why I ask how large, because the issue with in-person connections really is that you'll be wasting a lot of time finding guys and then finding out you're incompatible because of what's downstairs. Have you tried reddit? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:15 PM
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You could make a hinge and be insanely direct with what you want, but referencing genitals in your profile might get you banned. Spend money on hinge+, scroll through your likes until you find a dream boat, and then be very up front with him and see if he's down. The thing is, unless the man is a sex worker, you probably won't be able to optimize for amazing first time sex with anyone- there are just too many variables here. If you can find a guy who communicates, can take direction, and is cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:10 PM
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I'm an extremely chill mellow person with zero competitive spirit. I really feel like I wasn't built for grinding. I'm built to be a cheer leader and confidant, because the fulfillment grinders seem to get out of work is what I get out of making people smile. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:04 PM
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Warren Dunes are pretty hilly! Starved Rock is nice too. Nature has just never been my thing my version of being outside is on a patio with a latte
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:00 PM
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There are literally no attractive young men with big dicks that are easy lays & can actually make me cum. How big are you talking and how easy do you finish? Honestly if what you're saying is true you could set up a feeld account, and demand photo proof before meeting. The 'make you cum part' is probably more a function of finding yourself a fwb though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:58 PM
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But the people who enjoy it even enjoy the process of getting there more. With people like me, it's a major turn off to have a 'finally thank god I can stop looking around' attitude about dating, because it feels like settling to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:57 PM
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I think I want the result of my hard work and typically in non dating spheres I get what I wanted- I just don't really get enjoyment out of performing the action it takes to get what I want. I wish I had the quality some people do where the effort seems to feel nice to them instead of dreadful to me. Not everyone is achievement oriented I really wish I was. People who get enjoyment out of goals set are probably happy to work and sweat for the things they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:55 PM
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No, lol. If I'm going to be completely honest with you, I've been on a few hikes with friends. When they stop and admire the view I just kinda pretend I care 😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:45 PM
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Right, I guess I'm saying I'm the latter and I really wish I was the former. I think I'd be much happier if I actually enjoyed the challenge of dating(and other things)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:36 PM
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I will fight high BC women appreciation with my last breath I am with you brother
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:36 PM
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Yeah, women uphold patriarchy pretty harshly. At least for me women have always been the harshest and most unrelenting critics regarding my gender role or my lack of upholding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:35 PM
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Yes, but I don’t enjoy the process. I thought other people enjoyed the process? Maybe this is just another one of my autistic things I took too literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:27 PM
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Note that you said guy not girl 🥀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:24 PM
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It's less male/female dynamics and more oppressor/oppressed dynamics. Not that I agree with it but the idea is more that a woman's hate for a man has no systemic power but a man's hate for women does. I don't see how this makes sense to anyone but as far as I can figure that's the justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:20 PM
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I do more calisthenics instead of weights so it might be a little bit different. My reward is getting to flex in the mirror and like the way I look. But I don't feel excited because I earned it, I feel excited because I'm closer to feeling the way I want to look. I literally have to get high and not think about how much pain I'm putting myself through when I work out. If I think about it too much I can convince myself not to do it pretty easy, which is why I do calisthenics- no time to talk your…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:17 PM
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Yeah but there's good strange and bad strange and I didn't get the good ones
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:16 PM
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This has never happened to me. Things I work towards that are easy I get no fulfillment out of and things that are hard are just really annoying and then I try not to think about it again I'm not saying I don't work for things- I do. I just hate it the entire time. But being miserable for a little while means I get the thing that I want at the end of the day so I work despite hating it. I wish I was born with the gene that made it feel worth it instead of just necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:08 PM
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I kinda wish I was born able to enjoy and appreciate all the stuff I'm supposed to I guess. I think guys who actually enjoy the chase and get fulfillment out of providing and stuff are probably a lot happier than me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:05 PM
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I will check some of my high school peer's instas sometimes. One guy who was in my class is on broadway now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:04 PM
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I stopped watching it after Butcher betrayed Solider Boy and teamed up with homelander to save ryan. It was just too stupid and I couldn't handle it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:03 PM
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Does hard work make the payoff actually feel worth it to some people or is that made up like people being able to see images in their head or the easter bunny I saw a guy on here say that part of what makes getting a girl so fun for him is the amount of effort it takes to one. I have never once thought to myself "Man I'm sure glad it was hard to do this thing it makes doing this thing more fun" ever in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:59 PM
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I think being 'the safe guy' is a huge, huge gamble on your happiness for little reward. If that's what you're advocating for I mean maybe it would work for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:28 PM
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Love is a feeling and an action to me. I feel the feelings of love and commit the actions of love. I can feel love and not do love, or do love and not feel love- both need to be together for a relationship to work to me. Also spark can be built with a lot of people if you work on your skill. I agree with you, but both parties have to want to do it(ie feel invested). The way you describe marriage being mostly effort is how I assume arranged marriages work. They perform love, and sometimes it resu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:22 PM
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I'm a body guy not a face guy so I don't mind that so much. The body types mainstream pushes just aren't my taste generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:19 PM
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Honestly most people are super cool about it! I've gotten really good work out of people who are super excited to work though shit with me!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:13 PM
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I'm confused. Your rebuttal to the comp het guy was that that your attraction would be reciprocated. Now, I think the comp het people are a little crazy but if you don't discard their premise then that attraction could never be reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:12 PM
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Hard to beat prime Abella. I am not the kind of person to remember pornstars names so the fact that she's a name I can recognize by face says a lot at least to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:07 PM
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hahah yeah it is a little bit weird to explain it to someone Honestly at first it was but now I just hop into an artist dms and am like 'Sup' and send him 5 pictures of balls from various angles hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:05 PM
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I pay men to draw hentai for me sometimes, and to do that I have to describe what I would like in detail, most likely with pictures, hand written notes, and edits with red line revisions if I'm really invested. It's kinda the worst of both worlds but it doesn't feel gay to me, just a collaborative project. I like when we are both excited about it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:02 PM
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I am a cutie pie and I think I would get along with most people here irl. I feel like a ton of people here have fenced dog syndrome and wouldn't be barking so fervently in person
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:00 PM
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I am talking about finding someone compatible to build a relationship with, not just someone to fuck But you need to find both for them to be a compatible partner. Ands spark is more than just raw physical attraction, it's also mental and emotional connection too- the kind of magnetism you get when someone falls into place with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:47 PM
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She is actually attracted to you = your attraction being reciprocated? lol These aren't equal but aren't both of these conditions necessary to a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:43 PM
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It's your fault if you can't find someone by "following the script" And It's litterally possible to find someone by "following the script". Are different claims. It's possible to find the love of my life doing anything. By 'find someone' do you mean a living breathing human? Yes you're right. But I thought we were searching for compatibility not signs of life. You know you are X and you need Y but you keep chasing the wrong person because of lust or that you felt a spark. Isn't a spark a part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:23 PM
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Having it all = She is actually attracted to you? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:18 PM
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This is basically what I came here to say. Though, I don't think it being a male hierarchy matters as much. Performative men(me 🤭) can achieve status in feminine spaces to impress women too I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:03 PM
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the males who complain think of quantity not quality, so they want to have some sort of status that will make more women into them, rather than find a woman into them. This is exactly why status is important to me, for the reason you state in the latter half of this sentence but the first doesn't map for me. It's not about quality, not really- but in order to find quality you need a large enough sample size. Status increases the amount of women who have their eyes on you at all- to be known soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:55 PM
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Yeah I agree- when I say marriage is different though I more mean that there is more duty and responsibility compared to a girlfriend boyfriend thing— not that the love is somehow different. I would just behave different. And funny enough, I don’t need to have sex with them to ‘turn on’ that feeling, but if I feel that way about someone for too long without any sex the feeling starts to feel grating and I start to really dislike it. I think I’m the kind of person that can fall in infatuation dee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:17 AM
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We’ve been over this before hotlack 😭 I actually just saw one of the boys I’ve kissed get married a few days ago! Weirdly all the boys I’ve kissed weddings I’ve been to so far….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:03 AM
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I guess that’s why I think a relationship and a friendship aren’t much different— if I can just turn it on, wouldn’t I be able to do that with anyone I found attractive and interesting? Now, I’m only talking dating here, not a marriage. But I think being a husband is much different than being a boyfriend or a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:02 AM
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It depends if he’s happy then he’s won. If he’s not happy he hasn’t. I’ve been in relationships with very attractive women who sucked and if I didn’t have the self respect to leave maybe people would have thought it was very happy because I had a super hot woman on my arm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:38 AM
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I miss boys for female attention it’s all equal if you’re willing to do it 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:36 AM
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To me, romantic feelings normally happen from connection attraction and interest, then allowing myself to feel those romantic feelings for someone over time. It’s weird, but I’ve always been able to turn that on and off— I can look at someone with a romantic glow about them, but if I can’t have that person for whatever reason I can just make that feeling go away pretty easily? I’ve had plenty of female friends I’ve decided not to be romantically attracted to and it just shuts it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:34 AM
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This is pretty funny but also I’m extremely afraid of ending up like this guy with no wife in like 8 years
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:25 AM
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That scenario is kind of funny to me because I don’t think this would happen— I think enough people would still want relationships/children once the luster wears off. I think it would only push up the average ‘incel’ age from like 25 to 40 on average, because that’s when they’d want a relationship and be permanently kicked out of the dating market. It’s almost a trap to enjoy the first half of your life much more in exchange for ruining the second half.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:16 AM
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Eh I completely agree with her. An FWB that loves me (that I love to) is what I want out of a relationship. My girlfriend should be a friend before she’s a romantic partner imv and the distinction shouldn’t be that clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:11 AM
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This is hard to find? Do you live in a city? This describes about half of my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:15 AM
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I would absolutely seek it that’s higher than my average rn
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:29 AM
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A movie that came out recently basically had the B of the scenario, which is what I was thinking. But he did have a purpose and something to work towards, which I think helped with the sanity of his situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:01 PM
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Right I answered based just on the hypothetical— I would select B. I was just curious about the implications of isolation if I were to stretch this hypothetical further.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:55 PM
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I mean I would rather kill myself? But taking these as is B is the only choice I could make. Question— what’s the entertainment situation? I think I could pick A if I could still use the internet/have discord friends or whatever. I don’t think I need my connections to be in person to be meaningful and I can connect just fine through a human over a text channel. If I had no access to entertainment and just A or B I think I would go crazy either way, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:46 PM
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I wasn’t comparing the scenarios through one person making different choices, I was comparing the different rules both groups have for hookups vs a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:56 PM
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As a counter point, if the male is not sufficiently attracted to the woman his member won’t work. There needs to be some amount of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:59 AM
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I just went past a girl that ghosted me in an uber. What an interesting life we lead
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:59 AM
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I don’t know what you could possibly mean 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:58 AM
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My dose isn’t even that much I dunno why I feel like garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:24 AM
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Dude I forget all the time but this time it’s especially bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:23 AM
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I’m going to fr start getting into witch craft. I think maybe these Wiccan girls are onto something bc they seem happier than me Also completely unrelated DONT skip your meds for even a day I feel like absolute shit howwwww was this my baseline before
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:28 PM
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I don’t watch podcasters. I think the way I learned how to date was mostly observation- the way my parents treat eachother, the way my friends treated their gfs, and talking about it with my friends, online, and then applying those observations and tweaking my own approach based on the feedback I’m getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:26 PM
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I was really close to my sister, so maybe I don’t know what it’s like to grow up without women in my life. I’ll recognize that having a ton of women around is how I grew up so I don’t know what it’s like to not have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:01 PM
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Does your platonic success with women equal relational success with them? I've found no correlation personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:50 PM
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Yeah, I was mostly just feeling like your definition of nice guy just sort of seemed like the standard symptoms of social anxiety, not Nice Guys as I understood the meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:48 PM
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I take medication for it and a lot of the stuff has drastically reduced. And if you claim to be shy and nerdy and not interesting you can start there and work up. You can learn some things that could help you be better in skills you think you are lacking in I think I'm a very good conversationalist and pretty funny 🥰 I think being funny can make up for not being all that interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:44 PM
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Nice guys I know seem to want to hide in the dark and have women come to them. They think that somehow being nice will attract people they aren't social or confident people. They don't have the courage to go up to a girl and talk to her. This doesn't sound like nice guy syndrome as much as it sounds like social anxiety. Not having the courage to go up to a girl is not Nice Guy behavior. Hell, if I can help it I will live my entire life without cold approaching a girl. I have no desire to. They t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:32 PM
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and it's result is a mass angry desperation rather than something calmer and more effective anyway Having lots of platonic relationships with women doesn't make you feel fine about not having a romantic partner. It some ways the hurt can be more acute because you know your personality isn't repulsive to women platonically. basically, if nothing else, your lighter relationships with women are helpful to lean on for both stress relief and relating to women, in the pursuit of a romantic relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:21 PM
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For the record, plenty of habits we have as an adult were modeled for us as a child. You're calling it coddling, but I think that's unfair to tease someone for an unlearned skill most people didn't have to work for. I understand not condoning poor behavior but I don't think demeaning verbiage has ever changed anyone's mind or helped them out. Because if that's how bad things are then men have a to do a lot of work. It's not a lot of work. A lot of it is just realizing that transactional relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:14 PM
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What if you are satisfied with the platonic relationships you have? I don't mean to make it about myself, but i'm a great scenario for this. I have a web of probably 30 or so mixed gender friends. I don't want any more friends. Is it ok for me to focus on getting a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:00 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. People want to fulfill a desire, which is sexual validation, they just don't know how to articulate that and say sex. Otherwise, a prostitute would give them everything they want. How long are you allowed to work towards a goal until it is absolutist? If someone wants a girlfriend and can't do it organically, how much refinement over his relationship building skills with women should he practice until it's become absolutist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:57 PM
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Are men so lost that basic ideas need to modeled to adult men for them to have any level of understanding. Adult men were once boys. Men my age and a bit younger also had to deal with covid which stunted the social growth of a lot of up and coming young adults and teenagers. Look, I'm sure you and I both did the work to unpack destructive ideas. But not everyone has done that work, and they have stuck to biases they have crafted about the world unchallenged until the moment they're faced with it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:51 PM
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exactly though, that's what it makes it hard to sympathize with its about sex and is that hostile This is why men are/were flocking to the red pill, btw. It's more like they've moved onto looksmaxxing because red pill does not work, but whatever. Anyway, young boys and men have been trying to find out how to date and have sex, because sex is normal and natural to desire. But when only one side of the aisle is willing to actually help, of course the boys are going to listen to the red pill, wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:45 PM
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The redpillers you're talking about can be crazy and misogynist separately from red pill , but nowhere in the redpill does it say for you to disregard female platonic relationships. but many are and blow right on by any other form of connecting with the opposite sex which would alleviate the strain No, it wouldn't. The redpill is aimed at attracting and retaining women's attraction- for whatever purposes you wish to do with it, from marriage to hooking up or just shooting the shit at bars. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:39 PM
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That's because the redpill is about getting sexual relationships, not making female friends. I have female friends- and they are great for platonic partnership. But friends do not replace my desire for a romantic(and yes, sexual) partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:29 PM
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I'm a munch this is my whole brand
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:18 PM
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My friends probably would have to do this at least twice to make me talk to a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:04 PM
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I would rather be alone. I really mulled over this question, but ultimately I don't think I could get over the self hate and frustration that would come with having this partner in my space that didn't desire me sexually, for the rest of my life. I would feel like I settled for something I so deeply didn't want. I would probably be a terrible partner because I'd be irritable, never want to lay or cuddle with her, and just spend time away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:00 PM
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Like you said, it's fear and insecurity, at the end of the day. I think we should allow men to be vulnerable more. I think the capacity to be embarrassed is not something modeled by men because to be embarrassed is not just to lose social standing but also masculinity. Also, being vulnerable enough and safe enough to express when you feel a change in your relationships with someone is hard for people to do, men included. I still have a lot of trouble telling romantic partners how I feel, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:54 PM
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I really wonder what it feels like on both sides of this. I wonder if I’d be able to tell, and conversely I wonder what it feels like to want to do this. Like I said, I don’t really feel crushes and especially not towards my friends so I can’t map this feeling at all. When you say friends, you mean people who you hang with platonically in both single and group settings for months, years? This seems like such a waste of time on the guys end.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:41 PM
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And I know there are men who develop feelings naturally after being friends with a woman. Bit it always sucks to be lied to by a man And I agree that all of that is terrible. I just don't think that's how the scenario goes most of the time between friends- actual friends, not guys who hit girls up on snapchat and text wyd 3 times a week before asking some for pictures, lol. I think truly for most men there exists a low rumble of attraction for most pretty girls in his life. For most men, if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:33 PM
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I remember that survey, that was actually shocking to me. I really can't believe that women expect over 80% of their preferences to be met. I think I'm hoping for over half. 51% is all I'm asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:24 PM
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I think it's fun 🥰 The last girl I was with I would just make her finish enough times that she let me tongue her ass till I was bored after. I miss her 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:09 PM
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I didn't say anything about trusting strange men- I don't trust strange men. I don't trust stranger women either, but I'm a paranoid person haha. I specifically said a friend. I have surrounded myself with kind and empathetic people. But that hasn't been always the case and everyone has their own blind spots. I've heard women extremely irate about male friends who have asked them out. I have zero qualms with men being treated with wariness- stranger danger after all. But I do think that a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:07 PM
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I don't really care about fucking it but have you ever ate ass? I don't think I can go back 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:01 PM
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I understand and thank you. But being treated as one of those other men is very annoying. It's taken a lot of inner work to brush off being constantly treated like some unemotional oaf or covert misogynist. I as I am now would probably be fine with it, but I don't know how 16 year old me would have been reacted to being rejected by my friend and then accused of being a fake friend for some long con.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:59 PM
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Tell me what the mirrored version is? "This guy was hot but I didn't really like him so that's why I slept with him on the first date. This other guy wasn't really my type but I liked his personality so I let him take me out a few times, and since he's got his shit in order he can be a good partner. The sex isn't as good as the hot guy but it keeps him happy" Not a direct quote, obviously. But I've seen so many permutations of this- I wish I cared enough to try to find a screenshot but I'm not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:55 PM
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To the point where our birthday may become a lesson in hosting, empathy, and taking care of the people around you versus focusing on yourself It's funny you say this because my friend group has a culture of going all out for their own birthdays, for the enjoyment of other people. I'm already planning mine, and am thinking of renting out a bar for the evening. I do understand what you mean though, and of course I have some male friends that don't do this. So, a man may think he is ok with a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:40 PM
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I get that. I think for a lot of socially stunted men, real altruism hasn't been modeled. If you go on the internet, or even just read the news, you see nothing but objectively bad people get whatever they want. That combined with people (also on the internet) saying both that kindness attracts women and equating men to the kind of monsters we are talking about(the kind that get on tv/social media, like abusers) can make some of these guys think that just by not being an active criminal they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:29 PM
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Most women aren’t into casual sex What does that matter? This conversation about women who are interested in casual sex to start with- a woman not interested in casual sex does not have these categories in the same way a man who is not interested in casual sex is not making these categorizations. It’s typically no-orgasm (because casual partners won’t do the work) and gross and anonymous. You should read the new thread about casual sex and on if women would be open to casual sex if they had an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:51 PM
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I wasn't arguing with you- I was outlining how myself, as a male, feel about dating a virgin. I figured it was relevant because you were speculating on how men feel. I figured it was a worthwhile comment because I am a man who dislikes dating virigin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:44 PM
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In my experience, I wouldn't call them crazy, but most women who are a virgin at my age are doing so intentionally, because they see purity as a virtue. I think the entire idea is cringe and would not date anyone with those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:42 PM
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Maybe you don’t. Apologies— when I said ‘women’ I meant some women, just like I’m sure the entire thread up everyone else only meant ‘some’ men. But I definitely know women irl that do this. I know some women in this subreddit who have said that they have different criteria for casual as opposed to serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:40 PM
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I have never seen a woman here say hot men are boring. This isn't what I typed, though. I said "Hot men who are boring" not hot men are boring. They have said they would prefer a non-boring average man over a boring hot man Yes- For a relationship. For casual sex, which was the original focus of this conversation, multiple women have said they want their man to be hot and to not like him that much, because if they like him they want to be in an actual relationship with him. This is just the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:31 PM
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Are you saying not really as in it's not equivalent, or not really as in it doesn't happen? Because it definitely happens. I know women who do this. I've seen other men talk about it. I promise you it's not made up out of thin air, lol. Women on this subreddit have said it, though in different words (i.e. "Hot men who are boring I just fuck and then discard, do you want to be treated like an object?"). If the equivalence is your argument, please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:07 PM
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I actually have a great example. I'm into anal- not everyone is. I would be sad if my partner wasn't interested in me playing with her butt at all. But, that would be something I would try to get over because it's her body, and obviously I'm into her personality if I'm with her. I suppose it is settling, but I never once thought I could get everything I've ever wanted in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:00 PM
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Well, it's like I just said. Women do a mirrored version.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:57 PM
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I looked through this thread in its entirety at this point, and only like 5 women said they would have casual sex if the orgasm gap didn’t exist, and a few of them had casual sex before. I find it interesting that people use the others gap as an argument when it seems like women don’t really care about it. The safety and std argument seems like the one most people focus on in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:14 PM
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That’s not true— I and a few men I know do not want to date a virgin. I’m looking for marriage but I don’t believe that sex is such a big deal and so sacred— so I have no interest in people who observe sex as something only for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:08 PM
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Bad from a red pill man’s perspective. That’s why he’s saying this is a female sexual strategy that benefits women and ‘costs’ men, just like how the ‘for fun’ and ‘for marriage’ girl idea is a male sexual strategy that benefits men. I don’t agree with it but that’s the gist I’m pretty sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:04 PM
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Yeah pretty much. If I’m neutral, I don’t mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:02 AM
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Well I answered depending on the act, lol. I think her intention is to find out if the reason men want women to do things that their exes did before them is bc of insecurity, a sense of fairness, or some other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:47 PM
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I'm less willing to stay with a person if they had an active dislike of what I'd like to do. I don't know why, but I feel like I could try to get over something that was physically impossible for someone over distaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:01 PM
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I tried my best to answer the question as stated, but I don't think most (normal) people here think in the way the OP is trying to lead them into. I'm sure men like the people she's thinking about exist but they are a minority. I think she used a great example, because it's an example those same minority of men have used.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:53 PM
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In this scenario, I am the kind of person that desires anal sex enough that I would potentially leave a girl over it? Then yes- I would feel flattered, and probably hold that story close to my heart, but if I wanted anal sex that badly I wouldn't let the highest compliment anyone's ever given me distract me from my mission, lol. Me as the person I am now? As long as I still get to eat it I don't mind one bit. I'd probably love my life less if she didn't even let me do that but I'd try to get ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:48 PM
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it's like when somebody tries to understand the feeling of jealousy in a relationship when you've never been in a relationship I've been in relationships and I am not a jealous person- I think people are just different. These are the people watching these guys https://youtu.be/v-pLb5VvnjM?si=HLRcoyCRidiYI2Mg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:51 PM
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But wouldn't the gen alpha broccoli haired kids be the most influenced by the influencers people say target young children? They are the tate demographic not this 29 yr old unc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:33 PM
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I think you will find you have to be far from perfect in either. I just don't want you to put perfect ahead of good, because you've been running yourself in circles with this for a while. Consider trying, and iterating when you fail, instead of trying to reach a peak before trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:51 PM
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Inhibition is just an anxiety and confidence issue. If you can do it drunk you can do it sober. You can try it sober if you want- just make sure you are able to speak to women and be willing to dig for what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:49 PM
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That's the only one that doesn't piss me off and even then, I don't want any person enough to pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:44 PM
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Alcohol doesn't make you a different person it removes your inhibitions. If you can get laid drunk it means you literally just need to chill out, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:43 PM
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Why do you need to find casual sex sober? I can understand wanting to have it sober, but not why anything before hand has to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:40 PM
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They can't name 3 black people bro that's not chronically online 😭 They are probably happier than pretty much all of us here tho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:39 PM
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I'm ngl I got very lucky, but have you considered just going on tinder getting really intoxicated and start spamming boosts until someone with short term looking matches with you? I mean sure it'll cost money but atp it's probably worth it for your mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:37 PM
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I feel like all the male boys in the video disagreeing with him proves that this guy is an outlier in your own video lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:36 PM
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I don't really agree on this guy with much else but yes, as long as I'm physically capable I should want to please my partner. Not all the time or every single day, but if I notice I'm neglecting her needs I would consider it a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:01 PM
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I imagine it must cover more surface area.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:04 PM
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I need to stop reading arguments in favor of paying for dates and the effort men and women put into early dating because nothing turns me more red pill. They are all so terrible- bioessentialism at the absolute best. No one has a good justification and they just call you a misogynist if you say you don't like the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:57 PM
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Sex work is cool and based and they should be able to create a union have healthcare and anyone who assaults a sex worker should be put on the sex offender database for the rest of their life. I see absolutely no reason why that shouldn't be an option for people. If anything, I want for basic income to rise to the point where sex work is an option, but not such a wildly lucrative option for young women that it eclipses other forms of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:14 PM
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straight men disgust by gay sex Wait what about being straight means I need to be disgusted by gay sex. I don't want to do it, but I wouldn't say it's disgusting. Thinking on it it's probably on the same level to me as getting my legs waxed. I don't want to do it, but it doesn't seem disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:10 PM
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That's a pretty common response too, the ghosting lol. And sometimes, but I think this behavior is pretty universal. Most often I'm arguing with the women on this subreddit and get this all the time, too. I personally think it's a failure on their part to not see the person they're arguing with as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:06 PM
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Normally I just hard call them out and ask why they attribute things to me I never said and don't continue to engage until they wrestle with that. You'd be surprised how many people start floundering when you just refuse to accept a position they attribute to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:01 PM
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Sometimes people decide they don't want to debate you, they want to debate the you they made up in their brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:57 PM
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He's lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:56 PM
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I would pay 65 dollars for a pair of sandals but they look fine. Not very striking to me but if they're comfortable I'd go for it Edit: Also you made me check the converse store. Ew wtf are these SHAI 001
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:55 PM
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Very Real but also she texted me back 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:54 PM
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Hmm? I didn’t mean to imply you thought that. The second paragraph was to share my personal feelings on a sexless relationship as an Allosexual male. The first paragraph was the one directly addressing you about the ‘not needing to have sex to have love’ thing. I tried to use ‘romantic relationship’ to separate that sort of love from familiar or platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:48 PM
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Elders still have sex. Senior homes are hotbeds for STDs because the seniors fuck around. Virgins also want to have sex— and asexuals are not Allosexuals. I would argue that most moderate to high libido people need to have some sex to be in a monogamous relationship, barring circumstances like health and pregnancy. Even if you’re right that sex is not required for a relationship, to me, the idea of a relationship without sex is very similar to loving a woman with a million dollars in debt. I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:43 PM
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Parenthood isn't. That's a choice. Raising a child is elective. If you mean this in the sense of being a meaningful parent to your child, I agree with you. If you are talking about being in the possession of a child and being their legal guardian for 18 years, plenty of women are forced by their husbands/communities to be mothers when they don't want to be, or they are shamed into thinking they should want it when they don't. I hope it goes well. Thank you me too! I have a female friend who want…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:16 PM
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I come from a traditional household where my mom is the homemaker and my dead is the breadwinner. They had two kids in cul-de-sac and a brown fence, not a white one, lol. Anyway, my parents have been married longer than I've been alive and all but one of their friends have remained in their first marriage. I guess I never thought it wouldn't happen for me, but I did not want a traditional woman nor to be a traditional man. I don't especially like the dynamic my dad has with my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:09 PM
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We're starting to get there. We aren't there yet. Esp not in cultures that are heavily influenced by religion. Yeah, I live in a major city with a blue state. My upbringing is probably more progressive than average, I'm biased. Worse than not having kids, better than knee replacement surgery. I don't think pregnancy is always elective like your other two examples, unfortunately. I think an unwanted pregnancy you resent is much different than deciding to have kids and then later coming to find ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:48 PM
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That doesn’t mean most women view it that way. we’re living in a different age. Well, I'm talking about people who actually have kids, not people who theory craft it. Your brain literally produces hormones that make you want to love and protect the baby- and we are only animals. Having a baby literally will change your mind(in most cases) Most women care about having a career I don't think this is true. I think it looks that way because both of us are privileged- the average person does not have…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:24 PM
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Old and childfree... Regret is fairly rare. Depending on your favorite study, as little as 4% have regret - almost entirely what's called "whistful regret," which is an interest in what could've been without a legitimate desire for that outcome. I think in prior generations the choice to not have children is a very intentional, counter culture idea for a woman. I think a lot of people in this generation are not trying to rebel against culture, because the wider culture accepts this as a choice f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:15 PM
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Well I don't wanna beat her up 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:40 PM
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I'm extremely low maintenance, maybe this is just a season of anxiety for me. But I really feel breadcrumbed. Whether or not I can tolerate it is another question. I was joking to my therapist about me being the girl in this situation, with a guy texting once every week and the girl totally strung along. 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:39 PM
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Yeah that's why I don't care a lot of the time you get bored of saying the same thing over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:11 PM
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I am not emotionally hurt by people who choose to spend their day debating red pill vs blue pill, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:06 PM
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Crumbs might be better than an empty plate though....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:05 PM
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In your life? I super disagree. I see people talk all the time that having a child has been the hardest thing they have ever done and also the most rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:04 PM
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Even working purely within your mindset(which I don't agree with btw) why couldn't you hate your own gender? There are self hating members of every tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:03 PM
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I'm not gonna lie it depends entirely on my personal emotional state. I can tolerate a lot when I'm having a good week.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:53 PM
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Hannah I'm weak
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:47 PM
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It makes you so cautious which I think is bad. I want to believe people actually want to date me but how could I trust that any date is going right or any pause in communication is the last time I ever speak to them? It definitely sucks but that bated breath waiting wastes my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:47 PM
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Unironically at this point I am getting desperate and might spend a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:18 PM
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I'm pretty sure I am ghosted again and ngl if she truly hits the 48 hour mark I am not going to hit her up again. Man, it does suck when you turn out to really like someone and it doesn't work out. Back to hinge I guess. Watch me betray my values if she texts me back though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:55 PM
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I am not sure anyone will be happy in 30 years when that comes true. Like, I understand the appeal of being single and childless- every year I age I wonder if I would be happy to have a child right now and the answer is always no. I love my life too much. But I see children as an investment in your future, something to cultivate and the ultimate thing a human can do- and unfortunately you can't wake up tomorrow and have a baby in your arms. I very much wonder how many of the people saying they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:29 PM
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Do you like paying for dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:01 AM
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I agree. I don’t think the me right now talking to you would be able to handle hearing what the OP said to myself without feeling resentful and that’s unproductive. Hopefully I get to the point where this sort of thing wouldn’t make me very unhappy in a relationship 🤷‍♂️ I do think I am open to critiques, but I don’t really have any desire to be compared. So if I’m compared and compared in a very negative way(imo) I’m probably not going to take that feedback in stride.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:00 AM
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Okay? Do I have to like something to do it? I don’t wake up in the morning excited to brush my teeth, but I recognize I have to do it to get what I want(clean teeth)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:52 AM
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I agree! But I don’t have the benefit of talking to this lady, and can only go off what she’s written. Similar to the tea preference you’re saying, she did tell us what the toxic alternative was like. Yes, the guy was a bad person, but she describes the sex in ways I would like my partner to feel about our sex. It’s less that I think she’s got some grand conspiracy here— I just read how she felt about the sex with a toxic guy vs how she feels with her husband, and in a vacuum I want to give her …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:51 AM
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If someone says ‘I love coffee! It’s bitter and it makes me shit right after, and it all tastes the same. And it’s not that coffee is bad, it’s just different than tea. The word choice chosen makes me feel like even though you say you like it you might not like it as much as you have verbalized. Otherwise, you would have written things that didn’t make it sound terrible to be the recipient of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:28 AM
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If I didn’t want children I wouldn’t want a woman to live in my house with me because I like having my own space away from everyone. Even if you think I am this torn up about paying for dates 1. Please refer back to the fact I Have and Do and 2. Why wouldn’t you think I am a creature of values? I do not want my partner to be a bang maid and I would break up with someone if that’s how she wanted to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:26 AM
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I would honestly guess that Chicago has a lot more in common with the coasts than rural Ohio, haha. And yes, I think people my age(including me) are more passive than previous generations. It kinda only matters that men are passive though, since Gen Z women have been conditioned to expect men to approach while also not knowing how to signal interest. Everyone’s kind of stumbling blindly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:51 PM
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...I think women are likely to feel a lot less like they're under constant siege, and more like it's both safe to make the first move, and also that that's the only way to get a date. This just hasn't been my lived experience at all and I'm 27. Maybe Gen Alpha will more like this. Online I read lots of stuff about 'who's gonna be the boys' because women are irritated by men not initiating anymore- I've gone searching for female focused dating advice and it's never had to do with initiating. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:10 PM
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🥰🥰🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:21 PM
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Probably the idea that something is better than nothing. A lot of men here think that being in a bad relationship is better than no relationship at all. I've been in a very bad relationship. Would I do it again? Fuck no. It's still causing my life stress. But would I go back in time and stop it from happening? Also no. She was so hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:12 PM
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I just talk to women like they're people, but I don't talk to people like I want to fuck them 😔 I'm also not very masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:00 PM
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Yes and honestly I prefer having sex high
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:00 PM
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Lol It's a castlevania reference
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:59 PM
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Results matter I agree- that's why finding out what I have cultivated is not actually something women regard when they are just starting to get to know you. I(and many men here) need to figure out how to be attractive, and no one but the red pill has any solutions on how to do that. And trust me, I do act like myself, I ask questions, I have hobbies and am interested in her hobbies and her life as well. That's not sending sexual signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:34 PM
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Do I sound pissy about it? Genuinely. I just got really sad and needed a lot of therapy about it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:01 PM
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But that obviously doesn’t matter very much, which also annoys us My positive traits for a ltr do not matter to me yet because I have not made it long enough to show off those attractive qualities. I could be a 10/10 or a 0/10 when it comes to ltr qualities, but since I've never got there my concern is not on step 10 when I have not completed step 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:55 PM
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What if you do not plan to cohabitate through? I mentioned that in the post you linked, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:35 PM
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though I suspect more will with less harassment) This might come off as aggressive and I'm not intending to sound aggressive, I just don't know how else to word this question: Why do you think this will be the case? I like to think I hang out in pretty progressive spaces, and the conversation between approaching as a man and not approaching is a huge matter of debate even irl in my experience. Every woman has their own preference and at least where I am it's like literally 50/50. But what is alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:30 PM
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I agree with your topic and the first paragraph but the rest falls apart for me. I do not think women feel that approaching is submissive, they just see it as part of the male gender role and the tango that is courting. A lot of this is based on traditionally masculine framing, but the logic doesn't hold up for me. If the woman wants a traditionally masculine man, she shouldn't be doing all this. But yes in general I think men should not approach women for their own mental health. If you can wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:26 PM
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I don't think that's the way I would put it. It's more like... Imagine you wanted to be a boxer. And everyone your whole life(by your perception) told you that your legs were important. So you trained your legs and your footwork every day. Then, you step into the ring for the first time, and find out while footwork is important it doesn't matter if you can't swing a good punch. It's anger at the idea that we have honed a tool that is worthless for romantic relationship building. What's even wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:21 PM
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A miserable pile of secrets!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:15 PM
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I don't think this is true. I think natures can't really be changed- in a way, I wish I was causally confident. I'm not. I'm gentle, soft spoken, anxious, and nerdy. But I do look at the guy I would describe as an asshole and wish I had his success with women. And it makes me feel a sense of dissonance because despite you guys saying it didn't actually happen, I grew up thinking if I was nice and sweet enough someone would end up liking me. Then I became a teenager and then adult and found out n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:14 PM
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😁 I know it feels like when someone rage quits on me in video games
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:09 PM
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They’ll bitch about the quality of women theyre getting, as I also had mentioned. They care about the consequences very much, they will blame those consequences on women and society. I agree. I share no love for those men so I do not care to defend them. What traits did they display that was obviously a red flag? The one guy I know for sure was mean, anti social, and did not share her values at all. He was the kind of guy that tried to direct who she hung out with and what she wore. But he was v…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:09 PM
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Someone just blocked me mid debate https://youtu.be/5zHL7x0zI40?si=7hnA9G4b0g_-ZslR
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:00 PM
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The point of what? Are we talking about being an asshole, or are we talking about being a criminal. The men I was referring to were not criminals, just people with low empathy and respect for other humans, abrasive personality, mocking personality, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:52 PM
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.....We are talking about being an asshole, right? Being an abuser or a murderer is not being an asshole, it's being a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:47 PM
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All I've done is tell you what I have experienced in real life. I have been in the room with female friends and watched their partner act in ways I would consider assholeish towards them, silently think that guy is bad news, and then watch the tower eventually fall when she finally releases him. Those men were not hot and, even if they were, that’s not what got them “in the door”. Being hot is what gets everyone in the door. Most everyone has some sort of attraction threshold, and most people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:46 PM
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They do and wont STFU about it. Incels, blackpill, redpill, etc. They all care about rejection. Because they dont like that women can choose to not tolerate them. By 'those people' I meant the assholes getting girls, not pillers. …….. a wolf in sheep clothing isn’t a new concept. Do you know how many vile criminals were pillars of their communities? But I'm telling you they weren't wolves in sheeps clothing. They were just wolves my friends went 'Maybe it's a puppy!' over. It had to bite a few t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:33 PM
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Part of being an asshole is a lack of empathy, and typically misogyny comes packaged with it. These men do not care about rejection because they do not value the opinions of women, and with enough bird shot you will eventually hit a bird. I think most men think that being an asshole is bad, and yet I am someone who also looks around me and notices that all of my friends have had a shitty asshole ex that did x y and z. And these are women I like and respect. But what it tells me is that while bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:54 PM
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These questions are all rhetorical. Your argument was about how since dating was unbalanced in the aspects you outlined, men should have to pay. My questions were intended to poke holes in that logic- if I'm providing the same things as the woman, am I still supposed to pay? Your followup would be that men do not have the burden of carrying children. The next question was to preempt that- if neither of us want to get married or have children, that factor does not apply. Can you see my logic here…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:49 PM
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I scrolled through this entire thread to check- and no, I didn't say any of that. My reading of my responses is very consistent with what I outlined above- I do not like gender roles and I think both yours and the guy you were arguing with are dumb to be assigned to gender. Everyone should be initiating and looking the best for their partner and paying for things and holding doors and stuff. And somehow you twisted that into thinking I wouldn't pay 50 dollars for dinner. Address the fact that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:42 PM
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Quote me. The last time I spoke about it was with my therapist, and I have evolving dialogue on this subject. I've spoken about it online and in person at length. So if I've said anything other than what i've said now, that is my feelings on paying for the first date as I have discussed with my friends and therapist, lol. You have made it clear that you hate it because you don’t want to spend the money and you feel victimized and used for a $50 dinner. The last date I was on I spent ~130 dollars…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:35 PM
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Yeah, I hate it. Do you know why I hate it? Because it's patriarchal, and comes from a time when men did not respect women. The idea of purchasing a woman's time is uncomfortable to me, which is why I dislike it. I've never come at it from any other angle, other than the fact that I dislike being branded as 'The Man' when that is not something I've chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:32 PM
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I contribute to the housework all the time. I have to, because I live with 2 other people and split the chores equitably. I choose to believe that if I ever have a live in partner I won't suddenly decide she needs to be my maid. And ewww another reason why men who don’t pay for dates are a red flag. I never said I don't pay for dates. If the woman wants to split I won't fight her though. you don’t value marriage or commitment, Certainly not in a religious way. Relationships take different forms-…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:27 PM
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Most men claim to be progressive and helpful until the time actually comes to be progressive and helpful. Okay. What 'most men' do in their relationships has no baring on the relationship you're having with your partner. If he is not measuring up to your standards find someone who can. And if you don’t want to marry a woman and you constantly want to keep her at arms length, you’re wasting her youth, beauty, and fertility. Eww wait are you religious or something
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:08 PM
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Oooh wow that sounds good. I miss apples, fruit is so expensive these days 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:06 PM
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I did them over medium, and then plastered some green tabasco sauce on top. Did you make brekky?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:59 PM
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Kind of? It would make me no longer enjoy the sex to know that those were her feelings about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:50 PM
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2 eggs!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:47 PM
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I cooked breakfast and made coffee today but now I'm at work and my stummy hurt 😔😔😔😔 How is everyone doing today
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:19 PM
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Well, it's less that I think she thinks it's bad. It's more that if I knew my wife felt the way this woman felt about me/our sex, I would find that to be a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:16 PM
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Probably. I really can’t do it any more. If a girl is my friend or know my friends she’s already deeply entrenched in my life, and if the relationship doesn’t work out I have no desire to try to navigate that minefield. My social life is still fucked from the girl I dated two years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:36 AM
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Dating is individual not collective. If I don’t expect my wife to do more housework, cook, clean, and do childcare more than me does that mean I don’t have to pay for the date? If I don’t want to marry her, cohabitate with her, or have children does that mean I don’t have to pay for the date? I don’t understand how you can say say ‘if this is fair so is this’ when no one is forcing you to put up with the ‘woman options’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:24 AM
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I don’t hate women like red pillers do but if there was a button that would make me actually not attracted to women anymore I’d push it a million times
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:20 AM
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Based on the way she wrote it it sounds like super cope on her end
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:19 AM
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