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If you think these things contradict each other it is on you to explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:26 PM
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If the women in your life don't support you, how would debating about it, especially here, change anything? It won't. Do you really think anyone believes it would?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:44 PM
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No rational woman would listen to a chick who had rejected the man. There's groups 100k strong of women who do nothing but that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:40 PM
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Exactly how does she cockblock you? There was this one woman I rejected who tried to convince other women that I have herpes by downloading a pic of a herpes infected dick and claiming I sent it to her unsolicited. This backfired when word got around that she couldn't prove the pic was mine or came from me, and backfired harder when another woman found the same pic on a website. But for years I still had people thinking I have herpes, when I've never had any STI. Not even HPV. So no, that behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:39 PM
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Lol this is just a lie I say that despite how both of my best relationships started with women who approached me. They are still vastly outnumbered by the women I approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:22 PM
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I think a surface level glance over the comments here will show you one thing. Men act already defeated before they have even stepped out of the house. Refusing to pay to go speed dating is being defeated? So how many of these venues do you own? Lol I would never go to war with guys like these. They are waving a white flag before they have even been issued a rifle. Why do you want to go to war in the first place? This is a thread about dating. They go out to get. They want to get approval, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:17 PM
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Hahahaha Only took two comments to uncover the "strong = good, weak = bad" watermark of the insecure man. You just like to pretend men more outgoing I just like to speak and write in coherent English. Calm down and try it for yourself. makes you feel better about yourself for being too insecure to approach women Lol I approach women all the time. Very few things make my fiancé feel sexier than watching her man run some game on other women. She gets off on how desirable I am, so what do I have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:01 PM
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"Women can sense when you want them to like them, cause that is weakness. You should only pursue the women who make you feel nothing inside, keep the stakes low. Cause that's what a secure and confident person would do!" I am funnier, that's why women actually like me 💅😘
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:44 PM
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Yeah, assuming you’ll be rejected is insecure It's speed dating. Unless you literally get every single person you are matched with, you will be rejected. You would have to be an insane megalomaniacal freak or a barely sapient fool to think you won't be rejected lmfao I’m a man. Idc Stop making excuses to be a wuss. Speed dating is for wusses lmfao And go outside I'm literally outside right now, eating breakfast under my favorite tree. It's over 260 years old! Since the leaves are gone I can see …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:39 PM
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Fucking THANK YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:23 PM
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No, you can’t. Confident people don’t care about rejection. Hahahahahaha This is an insecure person's understanding of confidence word for word. Confidence is not immunity to the opinions of others. Confidence is the belief in oneself established by prior success. You don't gain confidence before doing the thing that scares you, you only gain it after making the attempt and succeeding. What you're describing? That's contrived denial, or sociopathy. The average person who goes out regularly to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:17 PM
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Lmfao So not wanting to pay to pad women's unearned ego is "social anxiety and insecurity"?? Hahahahahahaha Impossible to take this seriously, this is just femcel whinging
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:10 PM
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Lol "Women are superbeings with mind reading powers who can smell your every sin!" Fucking hell you're hysterical
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:09 PM
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Maybe it is for you. My two longest, best, and ongoing relationships started with women approaching me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:02 PM
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After some point, don't you just get used to it? No. Tf? Are you even capable of empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:55 PM
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Hahahahaha "I'm initiating just by existing" Lmao you'll never get it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:54 PM
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Nobody's standards are an objective valuation of that and men should stop using female attention as a measure of self worth It's easy to say this when you have never experienced the absences of attention men have to endure. It's like trying to tell a person that it is ok to be alone sometimes while they're on their 145th day of solitary confinement. It is a demonstration of a complete refusal to empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:53 PM
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What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events? Because they are not for men. I’ve read a number of Reddit posts, including a few from this sub, where a number of ladies complain about there being few men attending speed dating events and the women are always frustrated that no men appear. It's always so funny reading those. Just dozens or even hundreds of women scoring goals against themselves. This is a situation I’ve also seen from YouTube and it seems to align with a broad…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:40 PM
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Right, because the claim that leading with emotional intimacy wins women's affection is a nakedly absurd lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:11 PM
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Lol oh yeah totally. I just hang out in bars, quietly helping ladies unpack their trauma and work through their emotional hangups. My pickup line is going up to a woman and demanding they listen as I unload my most uncomfortably private insecurities on her. Chicks can't get enough of me, I literally have to fight them off with my hardcover copy of the DSM-5. This is so fuckin silly lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:22 PM
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Even by your rationale. It's not mine lol, give me some credit! I only know what parts of me need to be cut off to imitate it. When parsing the delusions of the greedy, you have to remember that they are working with less humanity than you are. You need families. Because without families you don't have replacement fertility. Without replacement fertility you don't have a sufficient labor force. No, the people with their hands on the buttons and switches of our society don't. Human beings are lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:09 AM
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Completely disagree. Women naturally assume and project depth and breadth to men that we do not possess or would care to possess I don't hate myself or women even 1/1,000,000th of the degree I would need to in order to consider this claim as potentially valid. This is just naked misandry dude, and benevolent misogyny. In reality the cognitive desparity between the sexes is orders of magnitude less than the disparity between individuals of the same sex. I may be deep but when it comes to which pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:50 PM
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... no dude. Lack of sex being a dealbreaker for men is a cultural trope that is literally older than the invention of written language. What women don't understand about men is how much depth and breadth there is to our minds and feelings despite the persistent sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:45 PM
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All of it really. Hell, I'd argue that women today know less about what men actually want than just a generation ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:41 PM
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It's interesting that few "educated" young people in big cities seem willing to question deliberate childlessness, modern notions of dating & sexuality, large scale government intervention in the economy, or a secular worldview🤔 Have you ever met any? Questioning everything we are and do feels like well over 50% of what we do. Its existential rumination from sea to shining sea lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:37 PM
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Since they don't go through the physical aspect of pregnancy, they have zero incentives to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Um, bullshit. A society with less dysfunctional parent/child relationships is better for everyone. I'm worried about the men who want kids without the responsibilities. 🙄 Men? They can go around impregnating a bunch of women at the same time and promise support only to pull the financial abortion card after the fact. No we can't. That's why men want paper abortions. And if wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:27 PM
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I can't speak for everyone, but I am in favor of paper abortions and I find this logic is sound. Avoiding unwanted pregnancies is a no brainer to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:25 PM
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Finantial abortion arguments are incoherent Oh boy. Financial, btw. If true equality should exist between the sex, finantial abortions should be an option for men, because women can opt out of parenthood via abortion, thus, a similar right of opting out of parenthood should exist for men. The incoherence: 1. Abortion is not about parenthood, but bodily autonomy Parenthood is the socially and legally enforced status of subordinating your own bodily autonomy to the needs of your child. So your cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:23 PM
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Profit incentive and the superstructure's addiction to infinite growth mean that families are secondary (maybe even tertiary) priorities to our society. In our civilization, people exist to have their labor exploited for profit. Profit does not exist to foster families, families exist to increase profit. In fact, everything our civilization permits, it does so for the sake of increasing profits. So long as our economy is built to maximize private wealth extraction, human happiness and human surv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:15 PM
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No. I said "often" for a reason. The reason is plausible deniability, I know. Your words were "Lived experiences often = your ass", so let's not pretend like nuance or precision are high on your priorities list. Let me open the cover so we can get on the same page. Your argument that women are somehow victimized, or are 'disproportionately' dismissed, by men applying the most basic of evidentiary standards to women's claims was already an absurd demand for special exemption from evidentiary stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:02 PM
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Fuck. The truth in this is brutal
/r/EverydayMisandry17/11/24 03:26 PM
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Maybe you should listen to women when it comes to what women want. I listen to their demonstrated preferences, not their stated preferences. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:29 PM
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Bingo. Idealism only looks great in the imagination, when concept meets reality idealists are the first to get belt sanded off the actually functional remainder of the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:23 PM
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"Ugh, I can't handle it when my bigoted lies are debunked with receipts!" Hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:19 PM
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Reread the conversation to find out. 💅 How are you debating in good faith if you are not paying attention to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:18 PM
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It's not factually true though. Women rape and women murder and women steal and women lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:17 PM
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Lived experience often = your ass. So you're just invalidating lived experiences using unverifiable or refutable claims, essentially turning every report of real events into an existential debate on the value of primary sources. This is as tedious as it is pointless, since all anyone has to do is dismiss you with the same arbitrary solipsism you use to dismiss them. But give you think it's a valid metric with which to apparently make broad generalizations, "Men are better off paying attention to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:12 PM
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Then it fits right in with a lot of the shit discussed here, which is often based on trust me, bro. You mean lived experiences? I don't need to trust other's experiences when they coincide with mine. You certainly could, if you had an excessive amount of time, sift through say this subreddit and see how often it is used in response to a woman claiming something the responder doesn't believe vs how often it's used against men in the same way. How do you prove any anonymous user believes or does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:32 PM
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Right, and hypergamy is only a tendency that is most visible from a macroscopic and statistical perspective. It is no different from saying "all men's lust is more stimulated by visual info", it is just one factor in an individual's behavior and decisions. It is not the primary imperative all women structure their entire lives around, just one vector of impulsive interest which may or may not be acted upon or even noticed by the individual in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:12 PM
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while also disproportionately leveled against women to automatically dismiss anything they say that runs counter to one's beliefs How would you prove this is or is not happening in any given case of it? This is a platonic ideal of an unverifiable and unrefutable premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:08 PM
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But if a grownup can’t see that the attitude of “being friendly and emotionally available has gotten you nothing,” then you have are in fact not friendly and emotionally available, you are fake. Because you expect something in return. This is just circular reasoning used to condemn someone for reporting their lived experience. Friendliness and emotional availability are not contingent on selflessness or tolerance for abuse and exploitation. You are just victim blaming. The very nature of a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:03 PM
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Tendency =/= all women prioritize this specific impulse above all others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:43 PM
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"What what they do not what they say" silences no one. You are free to speak, and everyone else is free to ignore your speech in favor of your actions. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:52 PM
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Yeah, they were even worse than the OP. Frankly your overreaction to them is the biggest 'victory' dipshits like that will ever get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:58 PM
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So... obvious rage bait? It isn't even a coherent analysis of the election's results. But at least you have an example I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:21 PM
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Originally I was asking for politicians making this a policy position. Now I am asking for even one example of anyone saying this. No, I haven't found anyone saying this shit even in jest. That is why I am asking you for examples, because I have looked and cannot find these examples. I've seen nothing about a "dickocalypse" or threats of mass rape or forced sexual relationships. It just reads as deeply counterproductive hysteria. If you cannot show even any individuals, much less politicians, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:54 PM
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Can you give any examples? I am asking for names here, not impressions. Not diatribes. Not stream of consciousness prose. If it is so ubiquitous it should be easy to find. attempt to threaten us with the dickpocalypse during which mass rape will occur because we weren’t nice enough How is this even a coherent, believable threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:18 PM
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removal of our right to choose our own partners Again, can you name anyone who is advocating for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:01 PM
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So you can't name anyone who even broadly addresses men on terms that do not alienate them, and speaks accurately about leftist positions on current issues? I can name several, but it's odd you cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:45 PM
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Men who think "DEI hires" are the reason they aren't succeeding when billionaires are literally siphoning up all the excess wealth as fast they can manage are too dumb to be reasoned w One of the ways billionaires do this is by hiring people who are willing to do the same work for less, including migrant workers. So yes, you are talking about one group of men and not two. This is what happens when you try to make everything into a chance to accuse others of thoughtcrime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:31 PM
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removal of our right to choose our own partners which seems to be what a lot of the young men are looking for as their due. Who is advocating for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:29 PM
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The left appeals to men constantly. Unfortunately Democrats are center right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:26 PM
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The aim is to expand CO-ED FRIEND CIRCLES. "The gender can be added in later" wtf are you talking about, people aren't Mr. Potato Head dolls with removable genitals??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:15 PM

No one is dismissing friendship, fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:13 PM
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I'm amazing, and this is me taking it easy. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:02 PM
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Nah, you just hate being held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:31 PM
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My point is the hypocrisy, not whether or not abuse harms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:27 PM
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Oh, I just took that as a failed attempt to conflate you with incels. He basically built an incel strawman and demanded you condemn it and your own argument. That is essentially using the incel label as a sort of rhetorical threat. But if you took it differently I can't fault you for that!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:19 PM
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Why can't you go to groups that are just guys? We... do? Are you arguing society should be sexually segregated?? I think it's valid for women to not want to be hit on when doing their hobby Get over yourself. This is literally about men building platonic co-ed social networks, YOU are objectifying MEN by assigning stereogypical intentions and behaviors to men that deny our agency and the full moral spectrum of our personhood. It is valid to want whatever the hell you want. What isn't valid is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:19 PM
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Setting aside your incorrect belief that feminism is or should be a monolithic ideology I don't believe either of those things. It does not need to be monolithic to be a hate group either, brush up on your definitions. Hey btw, do you think you could try being correct about my position for a change? I clearly wrote it out for you. All you have to do is be competent/honest. That isn't asking too much from you, is it? do you see the problem with these two statements? Yeah, you pulled both from you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:10 PM
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Here you are trying to conflate another man with incels just for disagreeing with you: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Pw1mLhJGLI Most of the time I see you commenting, I see you invalidating men in some way shape or form. The thread I linked to here started with you victim blamimg men who open up under pressure from their partner only to be punished for doing so, and you did that by asserting those men were lying or presenting a false facade of themselves purely to manipulate their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:43 PM
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Here's a good faith answer OP: because men are not allowed to be anything else. Men spent their entire lives breaking themselves to fill the role of provider, husband, and father. Many were literally coerced away from their real passions to fill that role. To have that role suddenly taken from them with nothing to replace it is more than enough to completely break their sense of identity. Because women are nowhere near as constrained by obsolete gender roles they don't experience divorce as the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:24 PM

I promise, it doesn’t feel to you this way, but you quite literally need to be told what to do. I promise it doesn't feel (like this to you), but you quite literally are projecting your own fear of your own agency onto me. Also, it is extremely disgusting. Secondly, these things need to be rigid, as soon as gender norms around you get too lax and permissive you’ll take it as a card blanche to do stupid, unproductive shit all while busting nuts in women and leaving taxpayers with the consequences…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:15 PM
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It's an opinion piece, my dear, dear 'intellectual'. So? The movement's purpose is a matter of public opinion. It doesn't have a centralized hierarchy and does nothing to maintain ideological coherency. There are even feminists who are prolife lol. Try to keep up, intellect-phobe. You've found an example of one feminist scholar asking a rhetorical question. Which she answered, if you bothered to read the article. This is an embarrassing display of faulty critical reading skills, Yeah I feel sorr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:07 PM
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The people who believe courtship = marraige also believe Disney Movies = real romance. 💅 Yes it is necessary to date your spouse throughout your life, but anyone who thinks the honeymoon phase can last forever is not mature enough for adult ltrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:59 PM
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Guys fail to find any kind of social outlet Lol, find? They're omnipresent, they are not hard to find. What is hard is finding one willing to accept you that isn't just a bunch of guys. There are some mixed gender events, like trivia nights, etc, but even then I wonder about how welcoming they are to single middle aged men. They're not! The only way most cis straight men even hear about them is by dating someone who goes to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:56 PM
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You call men incels just for disagreeing with you lmao, save the crocodile tears
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:52 PM
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I've seen you call men incels for just disagreeing with you. How is that not predicating men's value on their ability to fuck women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:52 PM
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This gender chronically relies on guardrails that the society sets up for them, There you go, injecting hyperagency into men like the rest of society. Men being conditioned to stay within narrow gender roles or else be brutally punished for it is not 'relying on society's guardrails'. It's literally coercion. Then when the role they are coerced into defining their entire lives around is denied to them, what do you expect would happen? That they would literally overnight excise the conditioning t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:50 PM
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You are a genderless Redditor to me, not a man whose attention I want. So in order to avoid my point you are misgendering me? WOW. You don't see how that underlines my point? Again, you replied to me. I didn't jump in your mentions and demand your attention, you did. Now in your denial reflex you even deny my gender. I honestly didn't expect you to lean this hard into my point, I feel like a dog who caught the car by the tire lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:41 PM
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This comment only makes sense if you think feminism is about hating men. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html ^ Written by a professor of feminist theory. I'll take her as more informed about feminism than you. Maybe if you gain influence and change the movement from within you can center the movement on equality instead of hate? Believe it or not, feminists (most anyway. Sheila Jefferies is still alive I suppose)…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:36 PM
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Ah, “sweaty”! I haven’t seen any incel speak here in a long time! You still haven't.💅 This is me wanting your attention? Again, you replied to me first. You did that because you don't want my attention? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you are intelligent and old enough to be able to connect your choices with their most probable consequences. Egg on my face for that assumption! Lol Punishing a crime isn’t the same as denying human rights. Yes it is. People have a right to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:26 PM
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The ruling class has a vested interest in keeping young men bitter, isolated, and resentful of half the population. It has a vested interest in keeping everyone that way, especially women who vote in greater numbers. It also has a vested interest in keeping everyone ignorant and biased against intellectuals. What's your point? The problem is capitalism in general, but rp men don't want to overturn capitalism Why are you so hung up on a marginal population? they're just mad women are taking an eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:15 PM
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Hasn’t worked for me yet? Not being given attention by men who I don’t want attention from? If that's all you care about, am I supposed to presume I am one of the men you want attention from? After all you replied to me. Or you mean men deprioritizing women’s issues in the political sphere? Politcal, social, economic, everyday practical. I keep reading women complain about how older men won't mentor them for example, that's a socioeconomic concern. Or how women are spooked by guys saying they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:09 PM
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Dude, you know what, I don't even think you're talking to me, just some imaginary feminist enemy. I'm quoting you explicitly man, this is your projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:30 PM
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Sure, the ruling class - combined with the working class's inability to unite against them - are the real issue. As always.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:29 PM
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No. Women don’t care. Women don't care so much that they are whinging about how they are special unique little victims in batches by the hundreds. Come on. Of course women care, they would have to be insensate dumbasses not to care. Live in denial if you like, it hasn't worked for you yet but that won't stop you. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:27 PM
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"Letting" is such an innaccurate way to depict the process of actively rebuilding society around women's interests that it might as well be a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:21 PM
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Who said men don't know it feels to be dehumanized? Lovely goalposts do not need to be moved. I am talking about why even the claim "most men don't know what it feels like" is still a lie. Most men are poor and are not white. Feminists don't say that Are you arguing that twox and the people who agree with the post are not feminist? Isn't that up to them to decide, not you? Don't be a creep. They point out how men dehumanize them and play oppression Olympics when they try to bring the topics back…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:18 PM
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If true, then to be 'normal' is to be basically human livestock. Sorry the fancy words intimidate you, but anti-intellectualism is a tool of the ruling class.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:03 PM
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Women aren’t creating anything, they are seeking the same autonomy and freedom of choice men have always enjoyed. That's creating something: new expectations, new gender roles, new ways to exploit torment and break men for ego inflation. No, men are flying overseas to prey on women who have been raped and prostituted since they were children. Nah. I flew overseas to learn sculpture, drawing, and anatomy. You're doing the equivalent of a dumb MAGA chud noticing HRC was the driving cause of the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:02 PM
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You don't speak for men lol, you can only lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:58 PM
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That’s how man have always been, nothing changes Lmao Tell on yourself more Sharp, this is amazing Women are no longer forced to marry because of financially dependence and many now have the same freedom to choose based on attraction. That’s the same freedom men enjoyed for a couple thousand years. Some men. 💅 There is zero virtue in lying beneath a man who disgusts her for the duration of her marriage. Good thing no one is asking you to do that, for men and for women. The lack of virtue is all …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:57 PM
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Lol, always the victim. What happened to 'superior beings adapt'?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:55 PM
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That isn’t adapting, that’s remaining the same and expecting the ever-changing environment to continue to fit It isn't remaining the same. Men indulged women for the past century or so, that was the first change. Now they are moving from indulgence to half apathetic and half intolerant. That is a shift, a change, from the past century or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:54 PM
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We already know that, we're not the ones preaching patriarchy as bioessentialist truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:52 PM
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Men are adapting, by deprioritizing women. Women don't seem very happy about it, almost like they don't like having to adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:51 PM
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I didn't, you're hiding behind the false assertion that I don't know what feminism is. This is reducible to No True Scotsman bullshit, and all it indicates is that you are incapable of defending yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:42 PM
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'No true feminist' just means the movement is an incohate grift, thanks for confirming the con job. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:23 PM
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What lies That most men don't know what being dehumanized feels like. who are the oppressors? The ruling, ownership class of the capitalist hierarchy. Women don't oppress men, they aren't on top Ruling class women do oppress everyone beneath them, men and women. No singular sex is 'on top' because humans reproduce sexually, so any ruling class capable of perpetuating itself must include men and women. Ffs white women purchased slaves to rape them. During Jim Crow they fucked black men then false…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:21 PM
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When I said "I wish the sudden realization of their hypocrisy would blow their mind" I meant it figuratively, I swear!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:58 PM
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Oh shit the IDF fucked with his screen I'm so sorry dude I didn't know!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:57 PM
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Nope. Feminism explicitly acknowledges intersectionality and how the oppression of women mirrors the oppression of people of other races, typically by the same institutions. It's still denying the blatant fact that black men know what dehumanization feels like, which is racist. So either feminism is tolerant to racism so long as it makes white women feel better about themselves, or twox and the people agreeing with the post are not feminists. Pick one. This is yet another shining example of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:56 PM
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Turn your screen on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:53 PM
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How? By invalidating men's experiences and framing them as sadists you deny them personhood. The experience is very different No, dehumanization is a very interchangeable experience. What genitals you have matter less and less the closer your proverbial cattle car gets to its final destination. This is just Oppression Olympics bullshit. It helps no one but the oppressors. Men often show zero understanding of how women are denied personhood and default to how men are and show zero empathy for how…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:52 PM
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Yeah, they are lol. They are erasing countless minority men who are dehumanized every day. Not surprised to find you in the racist bandwagon either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:48 PM
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The 'experience' being debunked is that men do not know what it is like to be denied personhood. You're demonstrating that is wrong with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:23 PM
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I do wonder if the archetype of the Demigod is in decline. I'm not sure that is possible so long as the imperialist superstructure, which generates these archetypes, remains intact. And increasingly, young men don’t even aspire towards that anymore. Even the ones who are not per se angry incels. Is this what is happening? Or is all the girl-boss feminist messaging backfiring, in that women are no longer seen as weak and in need of protecting? They certainly got very uncomfortable with the standa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/24 09:33 PM
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you can blame men for this Men posted the video of women mocking them? You can blame men for women's choices, but you would be wrong for doing so.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/11/24 08:07 PM
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No one is saying obsess over celebrities, but these men need role models, and they need to understand what genuine female interest looks like. It’s hard to observe that except on the internet. I'd say it is harder to observe it on the internet since you're only observing others reporting on their obsrvations of behavior instead of making your own observations and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:26 PM
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Yet here you and a lot of men are trying to tell women they're not allowed to be vocal about what they find offensive in males No I'm not lol. If I were trying to do that I would have written that. I never said anyone is not allowed to express themselves, just that they shouldn't try to control others' feelings or lie about others to rationalize mistreating them. You're just lying 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:43 PM
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Because if you want to know what women want...look at the men women actually want. Idk I think a man gets a lot more actionable knowledge by getting out more, thinking about and investing time into his appearance and conduct, and just talking to women. Obsessing over celebrities is how a person wastes valuable time that could be spent on building a six pack or learning to unstrap a bra one handed or figuring out how to find a clit in the dark without pinching her. As a guy with a fiancé and gf w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:33 PM
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Like, the obsession with the 4b movement being some apocalypse of well deserved karma for men is one side of the "bizarrely unhinged about sex" spectrum. But the other side of that same spectrum is sitting around looking at pics of men you find insanely attractive and saying "Just look at his arms, don't they make you feel safe? Imagine how sexually frustrated he makes those 4b gals just by existing! Oooh I can practically taste the hypocrisy in their thirsty DMs that only exist in my imaginatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:24 PM
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Who cares lmao "Chad's world" hahahahaha... so like are you a voyeur or something? Why are you so driven by another man's hypothetical sexual success? Why does it matter to you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:14 PM
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So you are saying men are not allowed to feel feelings? Ok Captain Patriarchy over here, are men too 'soft' for you? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:11 PM
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Idc about the 4b movement, and I know no one who does. There will always be femcels just like incels, why give a shit? I thought people took it too personally. That's invalidating. When women pick the bear in this hypothetical, they aren’t thinking of you specifically, so it is weird to be offended. That they think "men" and think of the worst possible examples instead of the men they allegedly love and care about, is very offensive. Stop telling people what they should and shouldn't be offended…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:09 PM
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... why did you link that lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:03 PM
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Idk who that is but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:39 PM
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Wow I'm so sorry you felt like I was saying all that I literally quoted you, not my feelings but your words lol. Take responsibility for them. I have really good relationships with men and have all my life. Evidently not if you are accusing male friends who caught feelings of lying to you. Pick one, either you are constantly hounded by deceitful scoundrels or you are the epitome of platonic co-ed relationship ideals. I'm confused by how you say misandry sends men to war? It's systems of men send…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:37 PM
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How many of them actually mean it? Not many So they are either bigots or liars? Nah. Just bigots who lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:29 PM
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I think the main diff between misogyny and misandry is one is systemic and one is individual only. This is bullshit. This is just you deciding women are special little victims. Like there's not a country nor has there been where legally women had more rights to property, resources, etc than men with the exception of the proximity to power that being married to rich powerful men bring women. Queen Elizabeth of England oversaw the greatest period of imperialist expansion of human history. There ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:26 PM

"That didn't happen... And if it did, it wasn't that bad..."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:48 AM

30 second google search could have saved you some embarrasment https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:18 AM

Yeah, 'niceness' won't move the needle anywhere but down. We are way past pleasantries being persuasive. Without substantial material benefits to offer the party is basically dead in the water for federal elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:08 AM

No we do not. If a boy gets his rapist teacher pregnant and she decides to carry to term, guess who has to use his body to go to work to pay for his rapists' child support whether or not that is what he wants his body to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:04 AM

but the average American was too stupid to vote in his/her best interest. That's misplacing the blame. DNC and the HRC campaign ratfucked him. They also tried to make Trump a Pied Piper candidate and still lost to him. They cleaned the primaries of both parties out of all the put together and remotely sane looking alternatives so HRC could run against one of those inflatable punchable clone toys, only for the clown toy to completely wreck her. That wasn't the average American's fuckup. That was …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:02 AM

The Dems ate shit for a bunch of reasons. I'm not convinced that "failing to cater to men" was one of them. I am. Whether it was the decisive reason or even a major reason idk, but it was definitely a factor. Like... every black woman I know was basically saying they'd hold their nose and vote for Harris. Most of the black men, way more than half, simply didn't bother. If they told me why many would talk about her history as a prosecutor, but there were a few who just said they were tired of bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:57 AM

What men's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:53 AM
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What makes it cringe? If you approve of the message but not the metaphor, is it because you think it failed to capture the message accurately?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:04 PM
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Because you clearly agreed that working out or auditing wealth or etc for platonic friendship or platonic love is not true love or true friendship Nah, you can totally have friendships or relationships that are contingent on achieving certain standards - so long as those standards are circumstantial and not conscious choices of the participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:46 PM
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A man should self improve only to attain sex or starting a family. A man should not self improve for love or friendship. Hahahahahaha Falling in love and gaining new friends is improving yourself, this is paradoxical insecure macho bs. I’ve been thinking lately. And this leads me to this post. I’ve self reflected Are these exceptions to the norm? Why mention this unless they are?? put in a lot effort/energy/investment whether fully providing or protecting or just devoting time and attention to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:19 PM
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No, that isn't how it works. Usually a foreign woman is just happy to escape whatever snake pit of violence and poverty they grew up in. This is probably a foreign concept to you, but for the most part they are grateful to their husbands for expanding their horizons and do not conflate the loss of their spouse with freedom but vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:40 PM
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Excellent analysis. This is honestly the only sub I have found which exhibits a coherent grasp of patriarchal realism, so I'm grateful to see that understanding applied!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 03:32 PM
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We see plainly, i mean super plainly how TERFS and Gender Criticals are woman led and how they actually dislike patriarchy, they are outright feminists yet they hold dearly to a hierarchy that centers them, especially in their suffering, towards exactly the exclusion any non-women. Plenty of women too. "Pick-me", slut shaming, exclusion and/or bullying against minority ethnic or religious minorities, shutting down neurodivergent women, etc. Just talk with autistic women about how hard it is for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 03:28 PM

"Investment banks know the future" is a hysterical Lucille Bluth grade premise, got to hand it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:46 AM
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Yeah, going on 20 years by now. My sedan was a used car from the 90s, hers likewise. The other factor was that it was a smallish semi-rural town. She was a local, I was a 'city boy' who tanned dark enough to be called the n word. I did not think the pd would have my back, even if I did have evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:11 AM
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Yeah... physically I was fine. Obviously she made it out intact enough to immediately start lying. Psychologically though, I am honestly not done healing. Appreciate your compassion though, every bit helps 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:03 AM
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Me? I can't do that. One lawyer offered to get an analyst out there but I couldn't afford their fee and afford to move. Tbh I was just scared shitless and focused on moving in the aftermath. I had been in fights before but nothing even close to murder, and with all but one of my former friends smearing or threatening me I just had to get out. I do use driver cams now though, front and back. Even if I never get in another accident just having them there keeps the anxiety down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:00 AM
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Violent. She tried to use her SUV as a weapon and run me off the road into a construction site at 65mph. She missed enough to not even trade paint, I didn't have a dashcam, and so it became a he said she said. She crashed and she claimed I caused it (but how do you make a car run nearly perpendicularly off the road without hitting it?), and because there was nothing proving anything either way every lawyer I consulted advised to drop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:29 PM
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After a woman tried to kill me for rejecting her, she also DARVOd my accusations of attempted murder. All of the people in that friend circle believed her... except for one woman. She didn't trust me as much as she had been roommates with the woman who attacked me in the past and absolutely did not trust her. She tried to defend me and was steamrolled for it. Much like myself, everyone in that group ostracized her in favor of the murderess. She told me a couple years later that multiple people (…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:30 PM

No, it's objectively superior in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:29 PM

Oh, so you voted for Trump? Hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:27 PM

Fill your cups of "I heart incel tears" with your own for once and drink up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:19 PM

Men are gloating and crowing Happens when people win. Try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:18 PM

Hey look alwayswrong was right there. Far better name.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:17 PM

"If you want the left to win they have to do the things the Democrat party has been doing for 170 years" Hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:16 PM

What the hell has feminism ever done for men? The Duluth Model is supposed to make us feel what, grateful??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:07 PM

What exactly are the right wing folks doing about these men’s issues? All they have to do is shit on men less. It seems (based on men’s comments in the last day) that the overwhelming reason a lot of men are going left is to punish women who don’t want them by taking away their rights and freedoms It is not a punishment to retract support for one's abuser, it is self defense. You are not entitled to anyone's vote or ideological loyalty. You're not a victim of people exercising their right to cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:05 PM

Tbh I kinda agree they remind me of the managers I deal with in HR or HOA organizations. Have I got news for you about HR and HOA orgs. They all pull from the same women's networking events, which in turn pull women from party affiliated volunteer and paid organizations. Instead of fighting for equity, professional class feminists essentially recreated the sexist backroom handshake and a back scratch system which conservativism used to protect sexist men since history began.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:51 PM
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You seem like you are provoking emotional reactions just to then shit on the reaction you obviously wanted. Go to therapy, narcissist. Nah, my future is bright as can be. 💅 Comes with being a decent person. Try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:43 PM
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Blah blah blah, you're still being evasive and we all know what your original comment implied. Lying about it only makes you more untrustworthy. Laugh emojis in response to men's trauma is the exact kind of man hating bullshit that you deny is happening, but because you already proved you are a shameless liar this was not a surprise. Now we get to the truth. Men fear equality 🙄 So you hyperfocus on that form of harm feminism caused and deny men's feelings about being harmed by smearing men as fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:28 PM

/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:57 PM
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No, I didn't. I asked a question A question which implied they are joking, thanks for being bad at being an evasive weasel. Yes. They do. Women make up 51% of society. Too bad, we don't have to put up with the manhating bullshit. 👍 Go make up 100% of some worse society or take it upon yourself to do better by men enough to earn our tolerance. No it doesn't Flat denial is not a valid argument, it's just a lie. It hasn't harmed men The Duluth Model of domestic violence has made it so men whose lad…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:42 PM
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Having a double standard that demands compliance in exchange for humane treatment If you expect your abusive treatment of others to never result in them losing any desire to enforce your rights when you need it most, enjoy the ruin you will make of your life. You will deserve it. It is not abuse to refuse to aid your abuser whenever they demand it. That is called "finding out". but given the obvious narcissistic personality I literally don’t think you’re capable of comprehending that Turn your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:27 PM
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I'm not making any excuses for GOP voters at all - I am saying your analysis that blames the GOP for this outcome in the first place is wrong on first principles of electoral statistical analysis. Trump's total votes are about the same as they were in 2020. Dems fell by 10-15 million. Blaming the GOP for this outcome is thus a lie, the Dems lost a winnable election by their own shitty campaigning. If misogyny is so widespread it makes women POTUS candidates unelectable then it was the Democrat's…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:19 PM
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I voted against billionaires this election, unlike GOP and Dem voters. I'm in a recession proof field anyway, enjoy your loyalty to billionaires!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:09 PM
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I never said it was just a joke. You're being evasive and defensive already? Thanks. You implied they are not serious. The alternative to being serious is to be joking. You were trying to diminish and dismiss the harm caused by those women, so comparing you to Schrodinger's Joker is entirely appropriate. They do have to put up with women as a whole No they don't lol. No it isn't The Duluth Model proves you wrong. What has feminism ever done for men but harm? Right back at ya Ok, but the differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:56 PM

/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:50 PM

I think of the self I was prior to when I was almost murdered by a woman I rejected as luckier than I am now. In the abstract I can understand that some of my experiences since then have been determined by the trauma of that experience, but that abstract understanding does practically nothing in any given experiential moment of consequential choice. Before my attack I could make choices involving women I do not already know well without feeling like memories of nearly being run off the road into…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:58 PM
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I’m talking about guys here justifying their vote on here. They are ones saying Trump is winning because liberals were too mean men. Never mind men have voted overwhelmingly right wing in ever election since the 1980s Most men didn't vote lol. Can't keep the facts straight. so there is nothing liberals can do to win them no matter who they run. This is cope, and it is so funny I’m responding to those claims. You're doing a terrible job of it. Jeffrey Epstein is on record calling Donakd Trump a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:49 PM
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If what they said weren’t acceptable they would not gotten votes and been forced to drop out. Your assumption that voters pay that much attention is naive, incorrect, and deeply funny. The fact they were not, shows it is in fact acceptable. No. It just shows it was successfully swept under the rug. Politics is downstream of culture, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Didn't realize you're an actual teenager, I have better things to do than dissect your idealist delusions. Just ask yourself this, when…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:42 PM
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Staying silent isn't the same as being a misandrist. Wrong. Tolerance for bigotry is no different from being the bigot yourself. Thinking women are wonderful is not the same as hating men. Wrong. Clinging to bias for women is what creates the pressure to be biased against men. This is literally the same argument white supremacists use, "I'm just proud of my race!". It is always a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:37 PM
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You think the tiny minority of women who say kill all men are serious? "It's just a joke" is no defense for misogyny, making it a defense for misandry only proves that men are right to not put up with you. The women's equality movement is about equality for women, not equality for all. Clues in the name. That's why it is called "feminism" and not the "women's equality movement", because it is about empowering women at men's expense not equality. And whilst I'd hope men and women could work toget…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:34 PM

The only consolation I guess is that misandry never makes me feel fear for my life or safety or rights. That must be nice, to be so deluded. But men are afraid for our rights too. Denying that isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:30 PM

Both can be just as abusive as individuals, but conservative women have a collective culture that is just less misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:27 PM
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But women do that too, so why do we have to behave in a way that men approve of in order to have them? Because rights only exist to the extent that others want to enforce them for you. When men behave in ways women disapprove of, we lose our rights too. Welcome to equality. 👍 Why do women have to play nice but all men have to do is exist? Both sexes deserve rights in the abstract. In reality, both sexes only get to rely on rights in proportion to how consistently others enforce them. Therefore t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:19 PM

Well zip up your pants buddy, No. cause the girls are gonna be fewer and further between for awhile by the looks of it. Nah, women need to get laid too. I'm a semi retired porn performer, I cannot care less about reactionary self inflicted femcels. Also it sounds like you are using women's bodies as a carrot on a stick to manipulate men. Fucking disgusting. And I'll be an ally for them the whole way Yeah I see how valuable of an asset you actually are lmfao... those poor ladies. You misogynists …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:15 PM

All these men are prominent rw figures or politicians. Your argument is that prominent politicians are an accurately representative microcosm of the wider population? And you wonder why you are not taken seriously? Lmfao We have spent two days now of guys saying meanie liberals are why they voted a rapist con man into office, Liberal abuse is why the liberal voter base fell off by over 10 million votes. Trump did not win by growing his base, Harris lost by Democrats scaring their own base away f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:07 PM
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The fact you think bank account = freedom is a perfect encapsulation of how twisted by capital everyone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:00 PM
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Can you describe the humility men have demonstrated that entitles them to their rights? Existing as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:59 PM
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Men need to learn how to regulate their emotions. We already know. Democrats need to learn how to appeal to men and humble sexist women. When women abuse men, men get to have emotions about it. Especially when they start feeling insulted and letting that emotion control them. No. We will feel insulted and act accordingly. We do not owe abusive women anything. Stew in your toxicity alone. if men learned to process and regulate their emotions they can become secure enough in themselves to avoid pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:57 PM
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This is just giving victim blaming vibes You blame men for being victims of verbal and emotional abuse and acting to defend themselves. So this is projection. And, women have good reasons for acting the ways they do. Including the tens of millions who voted for Trump or abstained from voting? You're just a sexist. Feminist does not equal faminazi. Tell it to the Duluth Model. Tell it to Jessica Valenti. Tell it to WaPo. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:51 PM
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Maybe you should keep being sore losers and see if you get different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:45 PM
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"Why do men hate me for constantly shitting on them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:44 PM
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Sure. HRC. Barrack Obama. Kamala Harris. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. Diane Feinstein. For the record, the GOP says misandrist shit all the time too. They just don't break kayfabe about it like dems do. Also the Clintons are on Epstein's logs too, and Weinstein was deeply embedded in the party. Sex crimes are all over both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:43 PM
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If you make the claim that you prefer bears over men and don't back it up with action, don't be surprised when people stop listening to your claims. Keep crying wolf, or bear, and no one will care what happens to you quicker than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:40 PM
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Why does women saying they are afraid of men make certain men so upset? It's all men, don't lie. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/13/feminists-do-not-hate-men She's talking about men as a collective. Take accountability already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:38 PM
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but on to your point. Women shouldn't have to constantly be afraid of hurting a man's ego. or try to center their whole lives appealing to male interests Cool. Men shouldn't either, that's why Dems lost. the point of feminism was so that a woman could live her own life. focus on her dreams and aspirations. No, the point of feminism these days is to leverage women's fear and hatred of men to keep a class of media and political elites paid. Democrats kicked the can of institutionalizing abortion r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:36 PM
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He's talking about triangulation and how if lefty women were smart they would stop triangulating men against them. Guess you are too short to catch the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:28 PM
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You think your feelings are more important than men's, and you wonder why you are hated? Lol, you earned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:26 PM
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Democrats don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:22 PM
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You think men who suffer abuse from women are effeminate, or just those who complain about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:21 PM

I think you'd rather believe all men are like that then admit you are wrong, and that's why women were defeated in the polls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:04 PM

I don't blame them for going the S. Korea 4B route. They were defeated so badly partly because of shit like that, so yeah. I blame them for doubling down on the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:03 PM

/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:01 PM
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If you can't answer a direct question you sure as hell can't ask a rhetorical question. Non sequiturs are easy and boring. Try creating something interesting for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:08 AM
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You were asked a direct question first. Answer it or I will just write you off as a dishonest interlocutor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:07 PM

This drive for moral purity in all respects is both impossible and misguided. There is an infinite gulf of difference between that and refusing to enable a sexual predator. So people hate Trump because he’s done despicable things in his personal life And in his public life. The man ruined the US's diplomatic standing for the next century. Mostly people hate him for his presentation. No, people hate him for being a violent tyrant. Stop speaking for people who are not you. Harris, Biden, and the B…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:29 PM
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They both should have the right to opt out. No baby wants to be raised by parents who don't want them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:15 PM

When you are done splitting the pubic hair of a convicted rapist's taint, give being a normal and morally sound adult a try. You may enjoy the novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:47 PM

I didn't vote for her either. I voted against genocide, just like I have in every election since 2008 when I voted for Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:46 PM

Come the fuck on. The man is in the Epstein flight logs. He is a rapist and a convict.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:22 PM
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So what? You want the men to be able to force women to either get abortions or birth their child? No. I would have written that if I wanted it. Duh. Men are also not the only ones legally obligated to support their child, paying child support has absolutely nothing to do with bodily autonomy They have to use their bodies to earn the money to pay the child support, so it absolutely does. Try again when you learn the definition of these terms. Men getting the right to paper abortions is just as ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:17 PM

They're the ones who are legally obligated to support the baby, their bodily autonomy is on the line. Therefore men have fewer reproductive rights than women, glad you agree and backed up my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:50 PM
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A man's choice to have a baby or not stops after ejaculation. A woman's choice to have a baby stops after the first trimester as that's the abortion period. This is you admitting men have less reproductive rights or right to autonomy than women, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:54 PM
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Well yeah, it's satirizing the stuff women say when they claim they were too scared of a man to help him. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:00 AM
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No it isn't, and no I don't. I'd appreciate it if you try not to speak for me going forward, if you can manage it. Just because a person does not feel obligated to put themselves at risk for a stranger does not mean they believe that stranger "deserves" to be harmed. The only belief we can confirm from their choice to not interfere is that they do not want to be harmed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:50 AM
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Answer my question first. Or are you scared?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:46 AM
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you feel the need to post how these women deserve to be hurt/killed, Where did OP write that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:54 PM

You are coming across as incredibly insensitive. Idc how I come across to someone who snarkily implies I've never heard of marraige before. Hold yourself to your own standards. 💅 Even in the US until the 1970s, a husband could not by legal definition rape his wife. And he also could not be legally raped. 🤷‍♂️ man, it's like society was cruel to everyone and making a contest over it is just another variation of insensate cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:26 AM

I don't need to guess lol. Comes with having lived the answer. By the time I am telling a woman I am only interested in sex, she has already told me the same thing without using her words. Luck is for unobservant kids who think they're the main character. Keep it for yourself, you need it more than me 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:40 AM

Well clearly you've never spoken to a woman just by how you're responding That's a silly thing to say. Losing your temper cause I touched a nerve? How insecure. you actually think a majority of women just want a bunch of ONS Lol is English not your first language? I never said anything about what I think a majority of women do or don't want. But hey at least its really funny you're so obsessed with me you feel the need to make up little fantasies about me. Do you do that with every guy you crush…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:26 AM

You're the one who implied I have never tried being honest with women, which was a lie. Not to mention probably a projection. 💅 Hilarious you're still thinking about this btw. Touched a nerve? 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:17 AM

Have you ever heard of this thing called marriage? No, I have never heard of matrimony before. 🙄 Marraige gives rights and obligations to both parents that are not necessarily in their personal best interests, because marraige is an institution built to perpetuate entitled linneages and help foster children. For example, husbands were legally financially and socially responsible for their wive's well being. Due to how strict gender roles polarized society, this meant that prison sentences for mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:13 AM

You should thank me for taking responsibility Sticking your head in the sand about your own support for fascism by >delegating your political consent to the management of private interests< is as far from taking responsibility as it gets. You are literally giving it away, as much as you possibly can, to pseudo-saviors you yourself admit are corrupt and who have already failed and betrayed you countless times. But instead of even trying to mount a coherent defense of your self contradictory posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:02 AM

I never said the Democratic Party wasn’t corrupt. I said it’s clear that one party is more corrupt than the other. And anyone can see that to be true with a functioning brain. If it is so clear and self evident it should be an absolutely effortless cakewalk for you to explain how you measure corruption and what objective measurements prove your claim. And yet anyone with a functioning brain can see you have not even tried to show this. How convenient! I don’t have an entirely positive view on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:27 AM

It’s clear to me that one is much more corrupt than the other. One wants to completely dismantle democracy and increase wealth inequality, the other does not. Why do you think either of these private institutions have any interest in representing the public? Neither need to actually dismantle the pseudo-democratic institutions of the US in order to render the public's will irrelevant for determining public policy. All both privately owned, privately run, privately staffed and funded brands need …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:39 AM

Incels don't do much terrorism, last I checked literally every self declared incel mass shooter had nothing to do with the community. It's been a few years but I would not be surprised if that trend holds. Incels are more likely to kill themselves than anyone else. Like all psychopaths, serial killers and mass shooters have a direct interest in maximizing their notoriety. It's the whole point of their rampage after all, to be recognized as powerful and scary. 30 years ago the same cowards were p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:25 AM

Reproductive rights, rights to innate value, in many countries the right to be recognized and classified as a victim of sexual or abusive crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:19 AM

For the majority of human history men’s rights came first. The concept of rights being something populations get for being born isn't even 300 years old. You're just making shit up. All it takes for men’s rights to be taken more seriously nowadays is for men to put this on their political agenda and back it up with money All the men with money made and make their money off men's disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:17 AM

There is nothing worse than being "early" to a revolution. Sure there is: the revolution never happens and the species extinsguishes itself in an apathetic yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:14 AM

It's actually gone into everyone's well-being Lol, then it failed. Most people in the US are less financially secure, less physically healthy, less mentally sane, and less capable of social mobility than the people of the same demographics were a hundred years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:11 AM

Capitalism cannot coexist with a society where men are not disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:08 AM

Deaths from workplace hazards in the most critically vital trades say you're self deluded. Edit to add: lol at that troll finally blocking me. I get to report them for frivolous blocks now 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:06 AM

It all starts with limiting the profit motive to the parts of the economy that run to sustain consumption instead of to sustain the logistical network which underpins modern civilization. Yes, what I am saying is all Men's Rights Movements that are not anti-capitalist are doomed to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:05 AM

Who breaks men's hearts more than women and their saturated fat soaked cooking? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:03 AM

But the reason they don’t have as much support as I’d like isn’t because society thinks men are disposable. Only that some men are disposable, and the only way society distinguishes between the two is whether or not the man in question aligns with or disrupts the status quo. Which makes men disposable as a class, Q.E.D. It’s because one party benefits from a less educated population—including men AND women—and seeks to expand income inequality for their own financial benefit. Both parties do tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:00 AM

Women are much more politically left-wing, at least in the United States. If they aren't white, sure. If they are, over half are right wing, and the white ones still outnumber the rest. While they may personally hold weakness in contempt, this demonstrates that they're much more interested in systemic solutions to homelessness, mental illness, etc., than men are. Bullshit, commitment to those issues is not determined by party affiliation and isn't gendered to begin with. You're simply perpetuati…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:34 PM

Homeless men are seen as a potential threat, not weak That is why weak men are held in contempt: we see them as a threat. Homeless men are less a threat to anyone than the societal neglect and contempt that is killing them is a threat to them. A weak man is not only one less shield on the wall, he's a potential traitor. A man cannot be percieved as weak without being seen as a threat, either to status and reputation or a literal physical threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:24 PM

To the privilege, their privilege never sounds like a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:20 PM

That's literally what OP did with his post lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:20 PM

Because millions of people DO care about these issues! They just don't care about "only the men" in these issues, because that would limit the solution to "only men". Then they do not care about men or men's issues, and that is a problem. But they don't cater these messages to "only men" because they want to combat suicide in all demographics. Actual equity demands that the demographic most in peril should be focused on, so this isn't a moral principle or practical solution. It is an aesthetic p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:19 PM

Isn’t the main complaint of men today that in the past they were almost guaranteed a wife no matter what? No. The main complaint is that we are disposable and have always been disposable. Ffs. The social role of men does not automatically include being a husband or father which gave men a feeling of control and power over their family. It never included that "automatically", anywhere. That had to be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:16 PM

, even the lowliest man was still in charge of the women in his life. Hahahaha Oh yeah, every piece of cannon fodder dying on a pike throughout history had a woman just off screen he could command and abuse on a whim. This is absolute bullshit. The disconnect in these conversations often comes from one side's refusal to grant any humanity to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:14 PM

Those norms can’t be challenged until doing things that are traditionally feminine aren’t considered weak. You can make playing with dolls or makeup look as strong as you like, most men will still prefer to spend their time differently. Men won’t do something considered weak so the place to start is with redefining what is feminine to include more things which is the goal of feminism. This is so messed up. You're actually reinforcing the role that men should avoid weakness by doing this, since y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:11 PM

All that evolutionary talk is outdated and inaccurate. Source? Proof? Men are more disposable than women in our society, all other current societies, and every known society throughout history. The real reason men's rights have no traction is: 1) it's not very clear what men want. This is just a result of you not paying attention. Men want more economic and social security, reproductive rights of our own, education reform, and overall less rampant hate against us. Do they want money to be spent …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:59 PM
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You're just diminishing and denying, you are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:22 PM
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So instead of answering in good faith you're getting defensive and lashing out against the messenger. Great look /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:21 PM
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Tldr: profit motive fucks everything to death
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:10 PM
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That absolutely hasn't been my experience but thanks for filling me in on the thoughts of the Female Hive Mind 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:49 PM
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I am a part of a poly triad, thanks but I am a few hundred steps ahead of this lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:43 PM
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Women having high standards will have positive effect on men. Hahahahaha Imagine going through life thinking men are so fucking pathetic and incapable of autonomy that they need to be lead by pussy on the end of a stick towards improving themselves and their own lives. Let's be real, we are not producing good men. Let's be real, you can only speak for yourself. So all in all, it will be net positive for men if women increasing standards. If they meet them they will always have options and can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:18 PM
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By moving on to the next person who does want what they want. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:27 PM
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So you want women to tell you how to “strategize” so that men can easily have quick, commitment free sex with women who don’t want to have quick commitment free sex without the women realizing it? OP explicitly said he is asking for strategies which make it easier for both men and women to get what they want. This seems like a huge reach to smear OP as dishonest or predatory, and is pretty close to slut shaming too. Or are you asking what strategy to use to make women want the same quick commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:26 PM
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Thanks for not slut shaming OP while still prioritizing decency and respect. Sincerely, need to see more of this 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:04 PM
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Eh, not all women. But a lot of them, and there's no movement to correct their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:14 PM
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I mean, there are women who say good things about him. They're not credible women and they're not credible claims, but the point is that it is a bad qualifier. Also, Elon threw himself into that group. He didn't trip over his shoelaces and fall dick first into the Epstein pedo ranch, just like the Clintons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:52 PM
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Both of these people just seem innately insufferable to me already, and the fact they thought this is a worthwhile use of their time only emphasizes my first impression
/r/EverydayMisandry01/11/24 10:51 PM
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The fearmongering about modest women being a bad choice cuz they are bad in the bed is absolutely ridiculous and it denotes massive pick-me and porn rotten behavior Lmfao Translation: "I am a virgin and if you ladies aren't then you are addicted to porn and dick - but also focusing on sex and learning lots about it doesn't make you better at sex!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:49 PM

If you want to get owned with creative originality you can earn it one of two ways: Write something worth my time. Pay me. Pick one, and notice that "whining" is not an option. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:40 PM

I don't want or need 'standing' from anyone like you kiddo, run along back to whatever mother figure you prefer to hide behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:34 PM
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So are we all supposed to stop using the word "guy" too? I mean I'd like it better that way but there are no logical or moral incongruities springing up from the use of "guy" afaik, so 'supposed' is kind of extreme. I don't use "Mother fucker" when talking about the qualities that make a good man good, so that's a great example. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:33 PM

Victim blaming, keep showing off all that class.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:01 PM
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People can still use the word nice to describe an action without labeling a person as a "Nice Guy" in the parlance as it's understood in this sub. They can, but if women do so while complaining endlessly about Nice Guys then others are free to conclude those ladies are causing their own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:00 PM
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The person I replied to use the word "nice". Idc if you didn't, I was originally replying to someone who did. There is being nice and doing nice things and then there is being a "Nice Guy". Frankly, the distinction in practice is always arbitrary because the label attempts to define the 'Nice Guy's' intentions unilaterally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:29 PM
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No. Being nice does not mean one has to be a doormat. It's literally the defining feature of the 'Nice Guy', so yes it does. Your husband sounds KIND, not nice. "Nice" is saccharine and ingratiating, kindness is just doing what you can to help because you simply enjoy helping. When women define "good men" exclusively in terms of openness to non-reciprocal generosity, they are either describing Nice Guys specifically or setting themselves up to attract Nice Guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:07 PM
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Doormats/suckers/naieve people, have no sense of awareness of what they’re doing or why, You're talking about infants and people trapped in comas. Also, it's spelled "naive". some people do believe in such things, charity/volunteer work/doing favors within reason/two way streets/family and friends, Those aren't doormats lol, those are examples of genuinely generous and compassionate people. This is what most people believe Lol You're incoherent. A doormat is a person who feigns selflessness or g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:04 PM
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Because theyre not actually nice. They want pussy for all their hard work and only want to be ‘nice’ to the person they wanna fuck. They're people pleasers, like I said. Since I’m bored, and I doubt you’ll answer, what’s mediocre about it? None of them are examples of you making any real sacrifices or taking real risks for anyone else's benefit. They're more like routine courtesies, the baseline minimum, than anything praiseworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:00 PM
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Even that... ok, when I think "tragedy" I think "awful thing happens to good people >because they are too good for this world to respect them<". A tragedy is a tragedy because it was the result of otherwise decent people pursuing good intentions to the best of their ability, only for human ignorance and the machinations of an insensate cosmos to interfere and render all their effort and virtue pointless. The assassination of Lincoln leading to an incomplete Reconstruction that leaves a gaping ma…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/11/24 05:56 PM
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I already said the list is mediocre, if you want more than that try earning it. 💅 People pleasers are not good people, you even said so yourself. "No one likes nice guys". You're the one with an incoherent position on who is a good or bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:27 PM
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"Tragically" this is not a tragedy, this horrifying. This is senseless death pursued for the worst reasons and inflicted on the least deserving. This is an attrocity, not a tragedy.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/11/24 04:25 PM
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I don't think you know what it means to be a person, let alone a good or bad one. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:22 PM
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These are hilariously mediocre standards for altruism lmao, and even funnier that none of them include doing anything for your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:12 PM
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Other women say good things about him, Men who fit this qualification include Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Marquis de Sade, Dolcett (the artist), Elon Musk, Jeffrey Epstein, etc. Like, what a bizarre and irrational qualifier! What if other women are deliberately inflating a man's reputation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:50 PM
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So, a doormat. You think a good guy is a guy who gives without even the false hope of reciprocation. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:43 PM
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I can't expect them to evenly moderate femcel content like they do with the incels. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:09 PM
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How do Lilith's posts not qualify as spam?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:55 PM
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It's called "subverting expectations", unlike trying to attack my masculinity just cause you got owned. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:52 AM
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Seems you have a habit of losing your money on dumb assumptions. I actually tend to date older women, but only if they treat me right. I bet it's hard to relate to anyone when you're so rudely presumptive. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:24 AM
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Not saying it's all his fault, just that is the curse he's working with. Only he can save himself from it🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:27 AM
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I wouldn't mind it too much if she really got a lot of happiness from it, but the more I have to literally provide for her the harder it is to relate to her. PS you're hubby's friend sounds like Captain Save A Hoe. The guy so insecure he has to date people who basically cannot fend for themselves, so he doesn't have to worry about them leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:15 AM
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That's ok, just be yourself and eventually you will get it. example of advice that works for no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:47 PM
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Most people who suck at flirting ARE "riddled with anxiety" about it. No, I think most people who suck at flirting suck because they fail to pick up on it. Those folks outnumber the social anxiety types by an order of magnitude or more. And no, it's not flirting "drills," it's a conversation that can involve her: giving him feedback on flirting I've never even once heard flirting feedback that was actionable or relevant. I don't even know what you could tell a person to help them flirt better be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:06 PM
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I think the premise that men need to learn social skills first is just an empty neg at best, and poisoning the well for the vast majority of men. It's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:59 PM
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Thanks, always nice to be appreciated for caring about others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:57 PM
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Why do you think flirting is harder than bonding platonically?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:55 PM
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...no, it doesn't mean that your female friend It doesn't matter if the carrot is a specific female friend or a nebulous quantity of women or the entire collective population of women. The fundamental message here remains: sexless guy => further suppresses his sexuality => befriends women => (does not matter how many or what steps go here) => sex with women. When what the message really should be is: sexless guy => learns to accept and express his sexuality around women and attraction to specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:52 PM
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It does for learning how to flirt. You cannot actively learn how to flirt with friends you feel no attraction to, you can only passively try to learn by watching them flirt with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:35 PM
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Then they should form platonic bonds with men, that would be starting at the lowest tier of difficulty. If your premise is they're too incapable for any difficulty (which is not one I am inclined to accept for the vast majority of men), starting them off on platonic friendships with women is just dropping them in the ocean with concrete waders. Any man who is a late social bloomer will just be held back further by that. Like... I don't understand why women seem so in denial about how a man's att…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:33 PM
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No one is offended lol, you're not that important. Here's hoping you internalize all the bad advice coming your way then, and at least learn the hard way since you denied yourself the easy way. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:17 PM
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Bad thing for all the men in your life who take your advice seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:16 PM
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There's women commenting in this very post about how "platonic ease" is necessary for flirting. So no, it is not mischaracterizing the advice, it is calling out terrible advice. That said most men are better off just using dating apps if they're working age/post college than tying their success to large platonic social circles, simply because the later is much harder and time consuming to develop even if it's theoretically superior in results, especially if you're not someone who has such a circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:58 PM
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Why do you assume that when people suggest working on social skills that they think ONLY that is necessary to get dates? It is not an assumption, that is the literal and explicit message too many women tell men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:54 PM
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sigh That helped you find a partner because you are a woman. For men this is seen as a baseline standard, not anything that positively contributes to their value as a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:53 PM
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They aren’t separate. Flirting is categorically distinct from all other forms of communication. The method of playing with established social norms to signal attraction and romantic potential has more in common with a comedy routine or the mutual attempts at intimidation in the prelude to a fight than more everyday social dynamics. You can’t learn how to flirt if you can’t make people feel at ease with you platonically. On the contrary, flirting is impossible with someone who is at ease with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:50 PM
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If a guy goes to his woman friends and asks for flirting advice and is told to socialize more without flirting, it is his women friends who struggle with socializing. They were given an explicit request and refused to grant it under the premise that they know what the guy needs better than he does. Hell that's not only anti-social, that is failing to be his friend. Now if he takes their advice he only has a stunted social and sexual life to look forward to, he was better off not going to them fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:36 PM
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Wait lmao are you suggesting flirting drills as a real recommendation?! Omfg I am dying, that's one of the funniest things I've ever heard! Flirting is all about sensitivity to another person's genuine feelings of attraction and their sense of what is and isn't appropriate to do or say, it isn't something you can drill like a breaching formation at boot camp. You only learn more about flirting by doing it with someone who is earnestly flirting with you, otherwise you are 'practicing' with someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:28 PM
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Oh look at that, it's OP's exact argument!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:21 PM
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It won't do that either. People who lack social skills don't get them by passive osmosis, if that worked they would not lack social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:21 PM
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So the idea is still "being friends with women will make women have sex with you, but there's extra steps". This is still dangling sex in front of men to persuade them to befriend women. It's only getting more gross the more I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:20 PM
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Why isn't "giving feedback to sources about their bad advice" one of the options here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:18 PM
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The only evidence you've given is your personal experience. Which is infinitely more than what you have offered. And I'm sure other men could chime in and say "this didn't work." It not only doesn't work, it is practically counterproductive and immoral. It is the exact same Nice Guy logic women hate: pretend to be a friend so you can approach when they are most vulnerable. It's disgusting. But then, for any piece of advice regarding literally anything under the sun, the same thing is true. No, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:16 PM
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What a bullshit hyperbolic vacuum of an argument lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:06 PM
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The great thing about taking someone's advice is that it's not a permanent life commitment. If it doesn't work you can always try something else. I honestly do not know how to relate to this degree of passivity. If someone's advice did not work for me in a way that shows it cannot work for anyone, or if their advice was deeply counterproductive - then I would be responsible for informing the source that their advice is actually harmful. Not doing that would be an ethical failure, as it would all…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:05 PM
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Half the accounts belonging to women doesn't mean half of Europe's women are on OLD, or that every account is active. Duh. Already explained this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:38 AM
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If that was true, every woman would get married if they wanted to online dating. No they wouldn't lol. They have to be proposed to for that to happen, and if they are too busy rejecting decent men to allow it to happen then they won't get married.💅 If that were true, why do the vast majority of women swear off online dating? Because it is dehumanizing to everyone involved. But that does not change how OLD specifically structures their apps to function like shopping for women. You think they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:42 AM
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Everyone online dating is just shopping. No, this absolutely contradicts the experiences I've gained as a man. Men are not doing OLD by shopping. Stop speaking for us, it is just lying. Believe me most women get discarded too. You have to be picked to be discarded. Most men are usually just ignored. Both sexes have specific things they're looking for, just like employers. I think you are projecting your own transactional mindset onto others, just like employers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:38 AM
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Who is the "good guy" who struggles with dating? I'd say most men struggle to some degree or another. It's very rare for a guy to face little to no difficulty or failure in dating, either across their whole life or in short phases. So look around you. So long as you are outside of prison, the majority of the men you see are the ones who face some struggle with dating. 🤷‍♂️ What are his values and behaviors that demonstrate them? Responsibility, shown with time management/planning. Trustworthines…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:35 AM
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Ahhh, yeah I share that suspicion as well. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/10/24 10:12 PM
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Is it true that bisexual men are much less common than bisexual women and that men usually lean hard one way or the other? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:22 PM
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The issue with a statement like "never" is that it only takes one case (even anecdotal) to disprove it. Oh stop moving the goalposts. Your claim was that society and women as a collective would change to become more accepting of bi men. You will not prove that has happened until women rejecting men for being bi becomes a statistically marginal experience. No single anecdote or collection of anecdotes (smaller than 7 digit sample sizes anyway) proves that claim, nor do they disprove the opposite …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:20 PM
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That the sexual fantasies about women's degradation are a call coming from inside the house? Me too.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/10/24 07:01 PM
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As a red pill or purple pilled man, what do you think about feminism? Started as a bunch of rich white women who wanted the same power as white rich men, and it never changed. Failed to protect women's reproductive rights and failed to respect men at all. I’m not talking about the sort of feminism where some crazy people want men to not exist, Ok, so you are no longer talking about feminism. You are talking about your fantasy ideal of what you want feminism to be. This is what feminism is: https…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:19 PM
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Keep this one mods, she's here to help 🖤
/r/Divorce_Men22/10/24 08:26 PM
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The only person obsessed with arguing semantics is you, my friend I'm not your friend, and you are the one arguing that taking advantage of others for sex isn't predatory. You are the one splitting hairs on whether exploitation for sex is predatory. We’re not changing because there’s nothing wrong to change. When did I mention anything about changes? Put down the bottle and the meth pipe before trying to reply again, and make sure to actually read the words I wrote. Women aren’t entitled, When d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:27 PM
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I said men want “higher value”. Not value from ZERO Then you failed to specify that, since a shift from zero to one is an increase in value. Again, not my fault you don't communicate well. 💅 Taking advantage of someone can mean a lot of things. “Predatory” is a super loaded word that you used. Taking advantage of someone is predatory, the fact that you are trying to worm your way out of that reality makes me think you projected that accusation without realizing the full weight of it. Which would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:06 PM
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"How does she view you" is an incredibly vague and abstract concept. Not even slightly. It's actually completely binary. Does she respect me, or does she not. Does she see me as a manifold of multifaceted features and characteristics, or does she not. Does she view my time thoughts feelings and desires as important to her, or does she not. It's actually just as black and white as scrutinizing her treatment of me, just through the lens of how she perceives me. Let's say you're not the hottest or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:00 AM
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Ironically, you left out the most important part of the "context" that matters: How are you being treated in your relationship? That was covered in the first section, "how does she view you". I'm genuinely not sure some of you know how to feel that way unless you're comparing yourself to some other dude. No, it's more like too many men are conditioned to believe the woman is the prize and they have to 'earn' her. Whether she treats them with any compassion or respect is an afterthought, if thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:50 PM
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You said men have to give ourselves value, which would mean we do not have any before we do that. Not my problem your phrasing was poor. I never said you were predatory. That’s a projection. You literally accused me of "taking advantage" of women, that is predatory. Now you are demonstrating you lack the emotional control to even acknowledge that. Keep proving the value too many women do not have for all I care, it is by their own dishonesty that they lose any value to me. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:08 PM
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You quoted four separate fragments and made 2.5 lines of "I'm not mad I'm laughing" emojis. There was nothing to see because you didn't write a point. The fragments you quoted don't even contradict each other and in fact support each other. Expecting others to innately understand what configuration of misinterpretations you are conflating with a coherent point is failing to communicate a point. Show your work, use complete sentences, and communicate like you graduated high school. Or I will simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:08 PM
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Do you have a point to make, or am I overestimating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:38 PM
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Oh I see what you are saying. However, espscially for men who have never been in a relationship before, getting that milestone is often a greater priority than making sure the milestone is marraige material.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:16 PM
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I limit likes by not using the apps 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:15 PM
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So drop them! They're basically mental health poison and we should normalize contempt for the apps and their parent companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:14 PM
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Like I said, much funnier this way! Awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:13 PM
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Yep, hence the phrase "bigoted belief"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:12 PM
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I felt like I was essentially objectifying each and every one of them. Exactly, that is because that is what the apps are for. Everyone objectifies everyone in them. Even cold approaching is a better method.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:55 PM
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Thing is, guys might actually be more successful if they are pickier - No. This has never once been demonstrated to be true. women are jaded because they know men aren't actually looking at profiles So? Men are jaded from putting tons of work in just to be rejected or ghosted. If they direct their attention to those they really like the look of, then the people they are messaging will know they at least read the profile. And it still won't mean they'll swipe right on those guys, so it is a waste…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:48 PM
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Being more selective does not make anything more meaningful, unless both people swipe right it is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:44 PM
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Men's low standards make women more picky on the apps. Sure. But it is a cost men are happy to pay, since we cannot afford to be more selective. I resent how cut-throat I had to be in order to avoid getting absolutely flooded with matches. 🙄 Sorry, it is really hard to sympathize with your privilege no matter how much you don't want it. It eventually worked, but the process felt cold, disconnected and even dehumanising. That would be because you are on a dating app. It's even worse for men, so j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:42 PM
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No thanks, I don't indulge learned helplessness. It's funnier that way. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:29 PM
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You wrote it in every post you've ever made here. When have you written anything positive about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:28 PM
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Don't need them to, I can make my own choices. When you grow up you'll understand 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:28 PM
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I cant because moderators hate that now. Just use the link format which prevents people from commenting, and they are fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:24 PM
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Every white paper on this topic published for the last 40 years says the exact opposite. This is just a bigoted belief with no substance backing it up, I feel sorry for the men and boys in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:22 PM
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Go to therapy, men Wont happen with large quantity of men because they refuse to go to therapy and see it as some feminist conspiracy theory. It has nothing to do with feminism, and everything to do with how men process their emotions differently from women. The fact that talk therapy is less effective for men has been repeatedly demonstrated for decades now. Also wont happen because then you’ll be told that you’re a woman or that you’re a chad, so your advice doesnt count, Why are you trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:20 PM
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You’re free to go about thinking women are good for nothing but sex I said most, not all. Don't get worked up now lol, you were the one who said men don't have value. We can also cringe at your morals from a large distance Idc, your morals suck. and feel bad for the women who you take advantage of. Making up women to make yourself feel bad is what neurotic nice guys do, I've never taken advantage of anyone. Plenty of women just want sex too, it's 2024. Your assumption that my sexuality is necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:59 PM
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I'll ask what I want, thanks. Let them tell on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:53 PM
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And women don’t actually say they prefer “self-interested dominance.” But it actually seems like a good description of the role they tend to like to see men play, whereas "learned helplessness" seems like a common complaint men have about the women they get with. I think the issue is everyone is interpreting “self-interested dominance” as a net-positive trait ? Lol, I'm not doing that Women don’t want selfish assholes who are domineering and seeking their own advantage at the expenses of others.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:56 PM
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I agree with this framing completely, it actually expressed what I was trying to say better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:57 PM
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It sounds like you are conflating basic emotional legibility with 'more feminine' and emotional neutrality with 'less feminine', when really that's all greater or lower quality communication. I mean, people are going to be more drawn to the people whose emotions are legible to them. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:54 PM
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Lots of the “masculine” characteristics that women desire in male romantic partners overlap with self-interested dominance. Ok... Lots of the “feminine” characteristics that men desire in female romantic partners overlap with submisisve learned helplessness. Wait, what? "Helplessness" is a dead fish in the bedroom. There's nothing attractive about someone basically having the mind of a child, wtf? Men like being relied on, not having to do everything for women. This seems like a huge reach. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:50 PM
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The dating scene is full of mediocre men, why should we initiate? Because you are mediocre too, and you initiating filters out some of the more problematic men. And yes, we do expect the bill to be paid by the man because they're not the ones at risk of being raped and killed by a man This is why you can only pull mediocre men. 💅 We already do so much to fit into the mold that society wants for women Boo hoo, so do men. And we don't receive any preferential treatment in schools, we all get the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:30 PM
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Or "If you were half the man you look like you would have been traumatized", yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:19 PM
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Lol more projection, starting to get boring. So in addition to your fragility you lack the communication skills or creativity to do anything but deflect? I think both pills don't exist for anyone but grifters' benefit. Maybe you should change your flair to "too fragile for others' individuality, please treat me like I'm 5 years old because I definitely won't act any older"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:25 PM
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I do talk to women in person, you have to talk to women in order to be friends with them or maintain a poly triad with your lady fiance and girlfriend. 🤷‍♂️ You don't have to be a psychologist to be familiar with the boy band brand model lmfao, you really cope with being wrong poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:15 PM
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Nope. Just don’t believe liars. So apparently you think all men who are not you are liars. That's a very bigoted belief. If you believe people’s tale of “I don’t know what happened, she just called me short and small dick out of nowhere for no reason” then you’re just a fool. So do you call women liars when they say they were harrassed, insulted, or abused by men? If not, that also is a sign of bigotry. If you do... then you're bigoted against victims of both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:12 PM
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No, it just takes someone choosing to insult you. Why are you assuming everyone but men are perfectly mature and emotionally balanced?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:09 PM
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Absolutely. An example, is even in families that are pretty relaxed about gendered expectations, when you have a family gathering it’s normal for the men and boys to be watching TV, and the women and girls to be in the kitchen preparing food. ...what? That sounds dumb and horrible. How can you enjoy whatever you're watching while your wife is busting her ass? In all my years I've never seen this happen outside of poverty stricken communities in 2nd and 3rd world countries. Maybe I'm just lucky, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 04:56 PM
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Every time I opened up to a woman I never once cried, so that is a lie. A functional and emotionally healthy person trusts their partner like I did when they said they need me to express vulnerability with them. So when, under pressure from them, I sat them down and talked about holding one of my best friends in my arms as he bled to death from multiple stab wounds - that was me trusting them to prioritize supporting me through expressing that and after. Instead, what they would do was some comb…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:50 PM
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Healthiest feminist right here fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:42 PM
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I just don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:41 PM
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You're a woman, you don't have any relevant experience of being a man who was pressured into being vulnerable by his intimate partner only for her to abuse or leave him for it. The only useful contribution you can make to this topic is describing women's side of the experience, or listening to men and letting us center our experiences in the discussion that is about us. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:40 PM
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Making up women to get mad at. Don't need to make them up, that's like 80% of my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:36 PM
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Snort. Men are not special, different little aliens Men are different from women lol, even their neurological activity maps differently for the same experiences and feelings. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5937254/ This doesn't make men 'special little aliens', it makes men physiologically, neurologically, and emotionally distinct from women. Which means what works for women may not work for men, and the only way we can figure out what works for men is by not lying to ourselves with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:31 PM
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Sure Men are not defective women, sorry. It's a learned skill and isn't gender specific. The specific method and perceived significance of emotional expression is not gender specific? You got a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:07 PM
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“Not liking” the term toxic masculinity is where you already became biased on your opinion. Lol, so fragile. How can a semantic opinion be fair or unfair? The reason you think women do it more is because you take their comments more serious than other men. That's a projection lol, combined with an attempt to invalidate lived experience. She’s toxic when she has conservative values and calls men gay for being effeminate. Yeah. You're saying she isn't? The thing about opening up is something that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:05 PM
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Idk, it can actually backfire. I'm a very handsome, very muscular classically sexy guy. 6'2", 34" waist, 73" shoulders, jawline like a cliff overhang. Sometimes it feels like I can be more vulnerable because I am attractive enough, others it feels like my very manliness makes it so that others see my complex emotions or vulnerability as an unnatural paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:51 PM
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Rights are a result of everyone choosing to respect and enforce them, so literally yes the strangers you pass in the street who respect your rights are directly contributing to your ability to rely on those rights. Social norms and constructs are only as provided as they are normalized after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:46 PM
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How are you defining "toxic masculinity" in its entirety? Because the only example that is ever really a concern to y'all are those ubiquitous "I showed emotion and she got the ick" examples. How is that an example of toxic masculinity? That is an example of misandry: the man is punished for expressing 'unmanly' emotions in an 'unmanly" way specifically via emasculation inflicted by a woman he trusts, often the same woman who pressured him into expressing himself. That is misandry, it has nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:44 PM
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I think it’s a narrow view to see toxic masculinity being upheld by just men or just women. Good thing no one is saying that. Sure there are lots of women who uphold toxic masculinity ie, the mothers who expect their daughters to do chores but not their sons This happens?? I will say, based off the amount of men who very quickly open up to me and talk about personal things that they say they haven’t spoken to male friends about, a lot of men do seem to find it easier/less judgemental to open up …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:35 PM
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A bunch of effeminate men that get women in their feels? Pop stars have to fulfill both fantasies for different demographics of women to become pop stars. It is the dichotomy of their 'good guy' features that appeal to the socially informed fantasies (well groomed, emotionally expressive), played in contrast to their 'bad boy' features (sexual conquest behavior, sex appeal, wealth, influence) which create the dialogues within women's social groups that fuel the star's rise to fame. If women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:53 PM
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Yeah but women view a loving relationship as the reward. That's what they say, but their actions speak differently. Many women also view sex as a positive thing to pursue for its own sake, and if seeking sex will pursue men who turn them on even if they cross boundaries or wave red flags. Men view sex as the reward. Some men do some of the time, but men also prioritize loving relationships too. Insisting there has to be this hardline separation of priorities between the sexes is simply counterfa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:44 PM
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You're just a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:58 AM
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You're the only one acting unlikable in this thread, AH. First you victim blame then you attack the people criticizing you for that as 'unlikeable'? Who cares who you like, you like to blame victims for being abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:57 AM
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That's bullshit. People verbally abuse others all the time, why assume it is only the victim's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:52 AM
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I largely agree. While there are some environments where men's pressure for 'masculinity' takes the lead, they're outnumbered by the environment's where the pressure is coming from women (because the latter includes the former). Liberalism is no defense against a woman losing attraction for a man who opens up. In my experience, the only women who stay emotionally invested and remain attracted after the man opens up are the women who went through severe trauma of their own AND experienced the aba…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:10 PM
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Women generally don't want us men to try to be friends with them Sure they do. Tf? so it's up to us to act accordingly and listen to them. Suit yourself, I'll be chillin with the gals. Or get offline and live your life according to what YOU want. Stop letting internet poisoned shut ins shame you for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:54 PM
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Not as awesome as her telling him the kids are his, THT would be winning!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:45 PM
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A lot of us do, and it tends to work so long as you are attractive and aware of the role she wants you to play
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:43 PM
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In this TikTok, a woman explains to an initially skeptical male podcast host how "Nice guys always finish last" is false. Already think it's bullshit just cause of tiktok + windmillflowers Basically, now that she's 25 she is ready to settle down - she's ready for the nice guys, like her current boyfriend. So she already proved NGFL is true. Fucking wild lmfao She asked the podcast host, "Don't you want to wait for that girl (who is now ready to settle down)? Or do you want to be the douchebag th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:42 PM
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1 and 2 are just different ways of saying the same thing. 3 is impossible to sympathize with as a man because it's not like we enjoy rejection either, but we endure it because if we didn't there would be no people left. 4 is understandable in the abstract but I don't see why this is any more or less a concern for relationships where the guy approached either. 5 is just fucking rude. That's not men being dense, that's women being their own biggest obstacle. Communication is contingent on catering…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:49 PM
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Good post, solid morale boost
/r/EverydayMisandry19/10/24 03:23 PM
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Of course, but marraige is a sort of contract with its validity contingent on the compliance of all involved parties. If one side backs out it ceases to hold the same legitimacy. I guess I just don't have the sort of attachment which tolerates any degree of schism or disloyalty, I can't imagine living with someone who betrayed my trust. I can't imagine sleeping in the same building!
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:58 PM
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A marraige is just a contract between two people with a special name, if one person pulls out of the agreement the agreement ceases to hold any validity. But on top of that, why force someone to stay with you? Why subject yourself to that kind of resentment?
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:54 PM
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... why would anyone want to stay with someone who doesn't want to stay?
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:51 PM
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So... you would rather be stuck in the same building with the cheater who betrayed you? ... that sounds deeply unappealing in every way. Why bother?
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:48 PM
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It is extremely biased data, given how it is entirely paranoid speculation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:04 PM
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Because most of women's self proclaimed 'standards' are little more than shit tests to filter out the men dumb enough to allow someone else to (in this case) define their mental health for them, or devolve into a worm and still deserve their love, or compare men to predators without their partners breaking up with them. That's all. Dehumanizing men is IN, respecting men's humanity is OUT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:45 PM
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Got it. So there is even less of a point for men to go to therapy considering that it has such a high rate of being useless for men. https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/are-men-less-willing-to-engage-in-traditional-talking-therapy-because-therapy-has-been-feminised
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:42 PM
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How many of you would be less inclined to help a female stranger in trouble, than a male stranger? No difference. All your scenarios seem equivalent to me, a person is in need of help so I would at least see if I can help or find someone who knows what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:27 PM
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Calm your knickers I don't wear knickers, and if I did they would not be calm. I'm saying that your reading isn't the spirit with which it was clearly intended By now you should be realizing I am aware of this and never once cared. Now you're accusing me of wanting men to be abused? Since when is a question an accusation? You're turning water into wine here man. Then stop whining and get to wining, drink up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:23 PM
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You're taking the phrasing too literally Am I? Perhaps you're taking the phrasing too loosely. linking it to abuse was a little extreme. So do you think it is extreme for everyone to have and follow basic abuse avoidance standards, or just men? They're just inquiring about traits that you particularly value and are attracted to. Then they should have written that instead of what they did write. You want me to respond to a prompt that only exists in your imagination? I may be an incredible guy bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:58 PM
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Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? Lol, no Good girlfriends do not cheat. I had the controversial opinion that most men would be willing to forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was genuinely sorry and willing to sacrifice to make up for it. Seems like indulgent wishful thinking, but let's see the details. 1: Dating is hard for men, finding a girlfriend is especially hard Nah. What's hard is finding one worth keeping, or even worse - trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:04 PM
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None. "Instantly", what am I, a yellow lab puppy born yesterday? What wins me over is consistent compassion and generous grace over the long term. There is no 'short term' timeline for winning me over, let alone "instantly". Holding standards like that is how you get a partner who pivots into abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:13 PM
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Lions tend to eat a zebra's liver first. Should it matter to the zebra whether the lion devours their liver first for the nutrition, or the taste? I find it is prudent to nip speculation in the bud when dealing with predators that use their prey's wonder as a smoke screen. Anything less is about as sensless as marching into a modern war with a red and white bullseye painted on your forehead. OP's ex is a person who preys on false hope and profligate pity. It is always a mistake to allow such a p…
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/24 03:59 PM
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That's Sharp for ya, she's only here to lie and fight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:18 PM
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Bad advice.
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/24 12:58 PM
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Not to be technical but that is a relationship by definition Oh yeah, totally, and a dingo is no different from a regular dog. 🤣🤣🤣 Go on, let it play with your kids. It is technically a canine, just like an actually domesticated dog who won't devour your children alive while screaming. You'll figure out how much technicalities matter in the real world real quick! And as I said there is a specific type of man that most gold diggers go after Yeah, the type who trusts them when they lie. Keep on vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:43 AM
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Turns out for an abusive cult-like exploitative organization like a political party, denial is better for harnessing electoral power than valid and authentic hope.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/24 01:17 AM
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A lot of people do exactly that lol sugar babies exist You think that is a relationship? Lmao that's buying a whore sis, you're talking about a sex worker not a partner! 🤣 The whole point of those is you don't have to bond with her or let her in your real house or introduce her to anyone or add her name to the will/life insurance/life milestone invitation list. She's a whore, you pay her in money so you don't have to invest with feelings. I've had sugar mommas and I wasn't dumb enough to think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:14 AM
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If you knowingly enter a superficial relationship you don’t deserve sympathy when it goes south Nobody does this. I just saw a video of a woman talking about how she left her husband when he was no longer rich. The interesting part is that she was honest from the beginning Lol, and you believe her? Hahahaha When the women you have made 'friends' tell others that they were honest about ruthlessly using you, and others believe them over you, by your own logic you wouldn't deserve any sympathy eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:49 AM
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Black men even being talked about in leftist discourse separately and without women somehow being leveraged onto a Higher Victim Pedestal is meaningful progress all on its own. The only reasons they are being discussed are: - to grease the gears of the blame machine should she fail - to shame black men into voting for her without making any coherent promises to win their vote In both cases black men are still being treated as less vulnerable and more disposable than women. This seems like an opt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:46 PM
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They were always going to do that, win or lose. They are already trying to pin the blame on black men before election day. Like, these are the Democrats, the same people who said Bernie was too white to win the 2016 DNC nomination only to 6 months later say that Bernie would have been too much of an open appeal to PoC to win the general. They all have make-work jobs at various political consultancy firms which depend on their ability to pass the burden of responsibility for their own policies an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:19 PM
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Lol, perhaps she is a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman in order to paint men in a negative light?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:25 PM
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Nah, the claim isn't ridiculous at all. Every man has seen a woman lie, just like how every man has seen other men lie, just like women have seen men and women lie. Therefore the truth that women's actions do not universally and perfectly conform to their words is self evident. Every human being has sufficient experience with women to know that OP's claim is insanely dishonest, and that anyone claiming OP is telling the truth is necessarily lying too. I got sarcastic to mock you for feigning ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:04 PM
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Yeah, it was a bunch of baseless nonsense. What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:45 PM
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Yes, I am out her manifesting the gestalt consciousness of the entire human male population. Problem? You're saying you can't do the same for women? Sounds like a skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:43 PM
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Lilith is probably a man pretending to be a woman to portray women in a negative light Yes, that makes this post a projection
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:38 PM
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Where is the evidence that nearly every man has witnessed this contradiction? Out here livin it right now lmao What, specifically, is the contradiction that you're claiming almost every man has witnessed? Lol, you think there is only one? "Love is love, no man is less of a man for being sexually attracted to men!" vs "I just learned that my husband of 20 years had a 2 week trist with a guy in college and I need to divorce him immediately" "Men should be strong enough to be vulnerable with their …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:36 PM
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Where? Where was this even the premise? Your title. If "watch what they do not what they say" was just about framing women in negative terms, then that necessarily means it is not a functional principle of learning about how trustworthy women are. And if that's the case, it can only be because there is no contradictions between women's words and actions due to the fact that the principle is nothing more than the imperative to watch said actions. Therefore, by just posting the title you posted, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:20 PM
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This isn't minimal progress though. Not if she delivers on these promises. She won't. Why believe she would when Dems never have before? Not destroying the lives of black men over fucking weed alone Trusting a literal prosecutor to do this seems like a good idea to you? Destroying the lives of black men over weed alone (while ignoring white collar crime) is how Harris started her career in politics. That didn't change when she grabbed the coattails of Joe I-Wrote-A-Bill-I-Called-"The Police Offi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:13 PM
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But it kinda just feels like they are trying to cover their ass after the controversy with Obama the other day Ding ding ding If this were a serious part of her campaign it would have been publicized months ago. This is too little and too late to be anything but damage control.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:05 PM
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In ten years they'll be patting themselves on the back for posting an agenda for "Affordable Voting" and Dem die hards will still cite it as proof that their hopes are not misplaced.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:04 PM
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It is cool to see a political candidate have policies to improve the lives of some men These are not policies, this is just an agenda lol It's basically the Harris campaign's version of the lawn sign that says "In this house we believe love is love...etc." It doesn't mean anything until political capital is spent in pursuit of real legislation or at least executive orders, which depends on the candidate's earnestness. Given the fact that Harris' entire career started by prosecuting largely black…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:02 PM
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Lilith is the one claiming there is no contradiction between women's words and actions, without proof. Meanwhile practically every man has witnessed such contradictions, which is proof they exist. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:58 PM
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I want you to go back to your one line “or at least a desire for it” The line that is only coherent in a marketing and sales context, and not in a romantic context because it reduces everything into transactional terms? That line? What do you think dating and sex and lust are all about? It depends on the people engaging with it, since they're the ones pursuing their interests through dating etc. Some are looking for ltrs. Others are just looking to fuck. Others are looking to plaster over their …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:11 PM
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You know the one thing people say about Sales and marketing “it ultimately boils down to relationships” of you and your customers have a great relationship you can build a successful long term partnership that’s beneficial for both of you. People say all sorts of immensely misguided and unrealistic things all the time, often due to the work of marketers. Sales and marketing ultimately boils down to having a product or service and others having a sufficient need or at least a desire for it which …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:58 PM
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That’s what I’m literally talking about “building your brand” Before reading your comments I couldn't think of a way to make dating even more bleakly depressing for guys. But making dating into a marketing gimmick? That would do it. Any guy who thinks like this and actually ends up in a relationship will be set up to believe that the deep intimacy and communication required to progressively develop that relationship are 'threats to the brand'. It's a recipe for inauthenticity. If some new Smartp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:44 PM
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Ironically, I got my first porn gig by delivering pizza to what turned out to be a live set whose male actor called out with an STI. Course they didn't just yank me in the door and start filming right then, but there was a direct causal chain of intending to deliver pizzas -> fucking a pair of pornstars. Also, they were sausage + pepperoni + mushroom pizzas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:56 PM
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So stay single then. You won't be missed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:48 PM
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Women SHOULD only aim to reproduce with the top 20% of men Hey, a eugenics post. Neat. Women SHOULD aim to only reproduce with the top 20% of men. Just by the fact that your first sentence repeats the title, I can already tell that the top 20% of men are not interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:17 PM
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Nah, that's what I am doing by blocking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 12:17 AM
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Or your current sex lives with people outside the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:16 PM
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If a person is hurt because they got broken up with for deeply hurting their partner, good. They deserve it, I hope it drives them to become a person who is not a piece of shit. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:14 PM
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"Hey, I overheard you thoroughly emasculating me to your friends. You've completely demolished my privacy, trampled the boundaries I discussed with you at the start of all this, and if I stay with you one more minute I will not be able to respect myself. This is over." There, talked about it, and what can be done is breaking up. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:12 PM
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Breaking up is addressing it like a grown adult. Adults are independent and only in a relationship because they want to be there, if they lose the desire the responsible thing to do is leave not pretend they still want to be with their soon-to-be-ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:10 PM
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So he's supposed to stay with a woman who he is no longer attracted to? That would be pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:09 PM
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If that term’s too loaded for you It's more like the term is too simplistic to be accurate or avoid bias. just call it rigid gender expectations While closer to the truth, why are they so rigid? men are the head of the family (e.g., they make decisions, we get our fathers’ names), but being the head means men must also be soldiers and protectors while women are weak and must be protected Yes, this is the classic fraudulent imperialist exchange: mortal peril taken on for the sake of the empire's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:31 PM
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Who is grieving those men? The people who know and care about them, hopefully. What a weird, pointless question. Women do NOT want this. Then where is the political campaign to stop it? This isn't misandry. What you're describing is the result of patriarchy. The fact that you think patriarchies cannot be misandristic is a very telling sounding of how shallow your understanding of this subject is. Patriarchies are, by nature, intrinsically misandristic. If we lived in a patriarchy today, we would…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:54 PM
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130 women is “all feminists”? They are 130 leading authorities and executive officers of feminist institutions and organizations. If they do not have any representative say over what feminism claims to believe, then it is not a coherent or functional ideology to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:26 PM
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What you’re describing is the other side of the coin. Let's name the coin: imperialism. These systemic bigotries can all be placed directly at the feat of the imperialist belief in peace being a product of the violent conquest of the entire world. Let’s not pretend the misandry you described and the misogyny the poster you’re responding to described aren’t part of the same system. Exactly. Both are tools used to divide and conquer populations of imperial subordinates. So long as every man is in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:24 PM
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I was hoping someone would bring up Fisher specifically, so I could then follow up with "How did that re-election campaign go?" While it would be idiotic to claim there are no sexist holdouts of classical misogyny in western power structures, the Manosphere specifically is a red herring relative to standard Christian indoctrination and is not even a drop in the bucket of scale compared to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:17 PM
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You said Manosphere people do the same to women, if that is true it should be easy to name human beings who: Have real power over the lives of others Subscribe to Manosphere frameworks/content/concepts Apply Manosphere material onto the unwilling/unwitting lives of those they have authority over If you can name those human beings, then you can say Manosphere types are doing the same thing without being correctly called out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:14 PM
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Name a Manosphere subscriber who runs a gender studies program at a university or holds an elected office.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:32 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna56629
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:31 PM
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Please take into consideration that misandry makes men feel bad. No, it kills us. Please take into consideration the fact that minimizing misandry in this fashion is participating in it. Men die by suicide at 4x the rate of women and die of preventable workplace accidents 20x the rate of women, and nothing is done to change these statistics because of institutional and cultural misandry. Misogyny ends up with dead and tortured women and little girls. Misandry ends up with child soldier slaves an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:30 PM
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The starfish is the one who is bad in bed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:32 PM
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Sorry trauma ICU nurse first 10 years of my career floated to ER never saw a man with his jaw broken by a woman saw lots and lots of women with their jaws broken by men. And less frequently men with their jaws broken by other men. This just in, the only way to abuse someone is to break their jaw. 🙄 Every time abused men come up I see you minimizing our suffering. Every time. You're not sorry, you are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:01 PM
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How would men not "accept" this? Checking out of modern dating mostly, it's what I did for a while. Do you think that banning dating sites would make people not meet online? Do you ban all sorts of online interactions so that women can't meet other men? ... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:54 PM
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Not so much "ignore" as "allow it to fester into politically and economically exploitable sexual polarization"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 09:33 PM
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What if, at the 1 min 45 second mark, she hits you? What then Mr. Manners? Are you sticking around for a few more hours?
/r/EverydayMisandry06/10/24 06:05 PM
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This is such a ludicrous self-own on her part. The fact that he left within 2 min hangs over her 'effort' and her looks like a thundercloud, leaving me wondering wtf she had to do to repel him so strongly.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/10/24 06:02 PM
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Imagine thinking sex is only about the physical act and not the emotional connection the physical act creates. Sounds like a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:30 PM
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Women cannot relate to losing their will to live due to lack of sex They don't have to acheive perfect awareness of it to at least accept that it is life ruining for men and show some empathy. Expecting men to cater their suffering to only what women can relate to is as insane as it is inhumane. And it is completely insane. If your issues were phrased mentioning the former rather than the latter then it would decrease the empathy gap between the genders and lead to more compassion. No, it would …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:29 PM
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I find that deeply offensive to people who don't have access to clean drinking water or food If you're not one of those people I find your projection of your offense onto them irrelevant. Sex directly correlates with procreation, birth control is a very recent thing. Sex = Pass on genes and procreate. If it was a NEED then you'd also be saying it's a need for everyone to procreate. Sex for human beings is not just about procreation, it's about forming and preserving emotional and social bonds wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:12 PM
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Too many men conflate sexual frustration with depression Written by a woman, because of course. Who else would lack the empathy required to avoid writing this. It seems certain men confuse being sexually frustrated with depression. Which men? However claiming sex is a need and you have lack of will to live without it is melodramatic at best and hints to a much deeper issue than simply sexual frustration at worst That seems remarkably callous and presumptive. Sex is part of the Hierarchy of Needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:59 PM
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It's just the trigger you need to rationalize your crybully crap lol. That's why you don't deserve the answers to your questions.💅
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:22 PM

Cutting to the truth of the matter is better than indulging dumb leading questions. Ask better questions if you want the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:28 PM
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Lol, way to shoot raw cocaine straight into my ego dude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:23 PM
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Thank you. Best relationships in my life all started with them asking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:20 PM
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Being lonely is better than the results of cold approaches lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:18 PM
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Basic manners teach children not to ignore people in a social setting, Got it, so whenever ladies ignore a guy they're being rude. Thanks Sharp!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:17 PM
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The only way to avoid losses from gambling is to avoid gambling. Aka: if rejection is a big deal for you (no judgement, rejection sensitive dysphoria is involuntary), then cold approaches are going to hurt a lot practically every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:11 PM
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And those words and actions were “what I was about” not just “well I’m a nice guy”. Then why put so much effort into proving you are a Nice Guy? See, I don't have this problem because I am absolutely not a nice person. I am a generous friend and lover, but I'm blunt and direct not nice. Who doesn’t think that? Me, and my friends for starters. Be more than “most dudes” Wayyy ahead of you lol This whole “well I had to be an asshole” trope is bullshit "Had to be an asshole"? Lol, no I just am not n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:06 PM
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I think I'm certain you've heard this a lot before, but you thought wrong. Lol you know your friends are gonna give you the goods about a person because that’s what friends do. It's not what my friends do. If you want to pretend otherwise just to pretend you aren't wrong, have fun being wrong. if they got nothing special to say about the person: it’s cause they aren’t special. No, it's because it is a blind date and hints kill the suspense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:59 PM
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I love how many excuses dudes are trying to make to avoid the obvious common sense. They are direct answers to your questions, not excuses lol. Why ask the question in the first place if you were never looking for the honest answer? No one said “it’s only one way always” it was literally “this is the basic expectations” And I am contradicting you: there are no basic expectations. In fact in my experience the more I expected the more disappointed I got, the less I expected the more happily surpri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:25 PM
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you really think dudes aren’t gonna tell their bro that the warm approach is practically being called in?? That's very different from sharing explicit details about her personal sexual proclivities, which I see as a violation of her privacy and beneath the dignity of anyone I want as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:22 PM
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Would you expect a date to be able to speak the same language as you? Not necessarily no. I've dated through hard language barriers before, there are more ways to communicate than language. Would have expect her to eat a meal on a dinner date? Yes? Not necessarily, no. I've been on dates where they meet me as I am finishing up dinner somewhere before we go somewhere more fun. Generally, I've found the less I expect the more fun happens. Well so is “being nice” it’s expected that a guy is going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:04 PM
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Ok but if that’s all your bro is saying do you really think she’s got a lot more going on. Who cares. Like if she was hot you know he probably would have lead with that None of my buds would. Do you have any guy friends? This would be weird to hear from any of mine. If she was into the sand stuff as you, you know your bro would be excited to let you know. Sand stuff? You mean same stuff? Again, this would be weird to hear. A blind date is all about figuring out who the other person is during the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:59 PM
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Women start refusing to open their legs to those men and they're breed out society. Do you really think criminality is a gene?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:24 PM
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I have a high T count and I have never once committed any of these crimes. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:23 PM
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What do we do about the fact that men are drastically overrepresented as murderers, rapists, and criminals? Find ways to support men so that we can at least cut the crimes of necessity/ignorance/insanity out of those statistics as much as possible. In 2023, men accounted for at least 67% of homicides, 84% of rapes, and 68% of all violent offenses. All of them on the official record books anyway. We all know that men are far more likely to commit these crimes. But how do we combat this reality? Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:22 PM
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well excuse me for not wanting to micromanage my partner like they are a child. You're talking to me here, not your partner. If you find this confusing, stop talking to me and talk to a doctor. If you like telling people what to do because that gives you some kind of power trip that's on you. You keep making these very revealing assumptive projections lmao, thanks for describing your flaws to me I guess. I'm the head of my household because everyone turns to me for structure, guidance, and posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:11 PM

No, it's still granting hyperagency to men and hypoagency to women and thus is still peddling the same tired, broken, obsolete gender roles that are driving more and more men to self annihilation. The solution is always men have to work harder, sacrifice more, and ignore their own emotions and instincts - all for the chance of being acknowledged as a human being with needs who deserves happiness. The western concept of a man has been revealed to be nothing more than a confidence scam, a fraudule…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:14 PM

Most Men accept anything Pffft, the fuck we do. Here we are rejecting you sis. Especially to women who want an assertive man, do not select against these traits. I am an assertive man, the best and longest lasting partners I've had both approached me and both are still going strong. Why? Because I saw my own assertiveness in them, and respected them more for it. Had they listened to your advice they would be a lot worse off for it. Maybe you should keep it to yourself if you actually want to hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:04 PM

If you don't believe the sexes are equal, why have legal equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:00 PM

Did you forget that your account is labelled as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:58 PM

You just said in another comment that nothing can fix struggling men. Make up your mind, or at least admit you are entirely out of your depth and have nothing coherent or helpful to offer men. You just want to blame men for how women treat them. Edited to add: I think they’re a lost cause because of their mindset. That's just victim blaming, their 'mindset' is a product of their struggles and suffering. You can be fixed Do away with the 'fixing' terminology to begin with. Declaring men are broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:57 PM

Because advice alone does not provide success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:55 PM

Niceness doesn't work, period. Niceness is pleasant but it is not erotic or arousing. It doesn't disqualify a guy from becoming a sexual partner eventually, IF the guy makes a point to politely and frequently express his sexuality and interest in the woman and if she is open to him. But it doesn't open any legs that were already closed, and it doesn't get a guy any closer to the finish line let alone past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:51 PM

This is just not true lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:45 PM

Someday you'll understand that this isn't a threat with any teeth lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:44 PM

The comments in your first link are depressing as hell, shit. Why? Women do like to be degraded. It's more nuanced and complex than that. Many women, not all, find the thought of being degraded by an attractive-enough man really sexually arousing. Whether or not they like that thought in the abstract is a whole separate matter. Or alternatively, they need to frame sex and sexuality in terms of objectification or degradation to feel aroused by it. It's like how a CSGO player can be presented with…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:01 PM

I know plenty of self respecting women who demand to be treated like I treat women in porn, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:51 PM

Porn Is The Main Destroyer Of Modern Sexuality Pffft lmao, not even close. Trying to convince a young man who consumes porn daily that being kind and loving will lead to a romantic relationship and eventually sex is difficult because porn portrays the opposite No. It is difficult to convince men this is true because it is not true at all. Porn often features attractive men having sex with multiple women in the most demeaning and disrespectful ways, leading him to believe that this is what attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:50 PM

This is just your confirmation bias, not an actual argument of any substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:17 PM
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No it isn’t. Yeah it is. Denial doesn't change how you don't know how men think because you are not a man. That’s literally how men think Because you are not a man, this is a self evident lie. Any time I see a woman saying “don’t settle for the guy who treats you poorly” on social media, men come out and say all the woman deserves is poor treatment. No, they say good treatment has to be reciprocal. Also, if you are defining men based only on social media you need to get out more lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:48 PM
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I see what you're saying, blaming men alone is inaccurate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:24 PM
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Nah, that's a projection
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:22 PM
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So why are men getting blamed for walking away from marraige?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:53 PM
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Besides, men walking away from marriage is an incel cope. It holds no connection to reality Marraige rates have dropped dramatically over the last half century. What exactly is the cope? https://www.axios.com/2023/02/25/marriage-declining-single-dating-taxes-relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:30 PM
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Selfishness? So you admit it is in men's best interests to avoid marraige! We're done here, pack it up, your mind has been changed. I assume men want to live in a better society Yeah, that would be one without marraige. Duh. I assume men would also want their sisters and daughters to have a higher quality of life available to them Marraige makes life worse, so you are correct. I also assume men value living This is why men don't want to waste life on an institution that makes life intolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:28 PM
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I'm suggesting we change his mindset to find value in marriage. That's doomed to fail, obviously. If marraige is a shit deal for him, the only way to change his mindset enough for him to accept it is to break his capacity for desiring his self interest. Which makes for an absolutely shit husband. The only way to bring men back to marriage is by making marraige into a better deal for them. Which means ladies will have to make concessions to get what they want. 😱😱😱 That changes the equation. It th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:26 PM
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Can you explain how these women behave? Entitled and abusive. Why do you expect plain women to be eager for any guy that comes around? The expectation is for basic respect, enthusiasm is desired not expected. Do you ask the men why they become that way? Nothing happens in a vacume Usually it's due to the wife taking him for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:15 PM
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Which is why many single men do their own housekeeping. It's 2024 Sharp, men are putting on the rubber gloves and breaking out the mops and dusters too. Nobody needs tits to run a vacuum or wash dishes, get with the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:11 PM
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Doesn't matter. Why get hitched in the first place when it doesn't benefit the man in the first place, and on top of it all it opens him up to emotional and financial ruin? Juice aint worth the squeeze because there is no juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:09 PM
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CMV: Males should stop walking away from marriage No. Men should walk where they please. To clarify. I don't mean getting divorced. I mean not being open to the idea of marriage anymore. Make us. Lol, you don't even know how to make us want to marry women? Sucks to suck! Society is better off when children are raised in stable, two-parent households Why should men care? What is society doing for men that is so necessary, insisting on privatized healthcare? Society as it is deserves nothing but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:07 PM
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Come on, it's clear it's not a quote from someone Sooo it's just you creating a hypothetical strawman. Neutral as in "not implicitly suspecting your wife of cheating". According to this definition, I'd say most men who otherwise trust their partner but still want a paternity test are experiencing a 'neutral fear'. I still think it is a bad term for it though, because again fear is an intrinsically subjective and anti-rational experience. The desire for the same certainty women take for granted i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:18 PM
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Relationships are built on trust. Trust is earned, not obligatory. Asking for a paternity test is admitting that this trust is not there. Nah, it's just acknowledging the man's lack of certainty and providing him with certainty. For the other party, this can feel like a devastating blow If they insist on refusing to understand their partner's PoV, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:16 PM
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Why are you expecting fear to be logical? That's a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:12 PM
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One thing can be irrational while still not implying complete distrust and negative judgement of your partner's caracter, integrity, and loyalty. Correct. That is why a man asking for a paternity test is not necessarily accusing anyone of cheating! Neutral in relation to the relationship's foundation of trust and fidelity. Functional trust is a byproduct of certainty, dysfunctional trust is the result of trust being obligatory. If the relationship was built on the premise that trust is owed firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:10 PM
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"I fear you cheated on me and are willing to lie to me, our families and our child for our entire lives hiding a secret that would break my heart. Oh you could also have given me AND the child an STD, and hiding the child's true medical history could potentially put their health at risk. Yup, that sounds like something you could do." Why is this in quotes when nobody wrote or said it but you? a totally neutral fear Nobody said fear is neutral. Fear is irrational, it cannot be neutral by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:05 PM
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I have no idea. It’s insane to me. Just take the damn test already. Thank you! Men can get scared and emotional before a birth, and one thing women should understand… there is no doubt in their mind about them being the mother, and all the nurturing hormones that flood their bodies, but men don’t have that in any way. Yes! So many women take their certainty in their parenthood for granted, and never even try to imagine what uncertainty about this does for men. So why wouldn’t you put the man you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:03 PM
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That's just downplaying. 1/20 kids born out of wedlock are born from infidelity, that we know of. That isn't rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:52 PM
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Sounds like fear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:41 PM
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To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:36 PM
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I mean... it is obviously the mom's fault. Punishing the victim of paternity fraud for being a victim seems deeply fucked up to me, and practically guarantees the kid will be raised in an abusive environment while rewarding the cheater with two decades of financial servitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:19 PM
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1/20 people is not that tiny. It's about the same rate as NPD in the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:08 PM
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How do you address the guys who actually get scammed? Those guys don't matter to these people. Literally. They do not give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:08 PM
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their humanity. What a way to misspell "ass". If you don't talk with them you only witness their body, not their humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:35 PM
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You can object to that while still deprioritizing women because of how frequently they dehumanize you. There is no contradiction in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:53 PM
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Most women don't feel right these days. I don't blame men for passing on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:43 PM
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Women did adapt. That's why some men are so upset Yeah, the Duluth Model was a big change. Beyond that though, women have only 'adapted' by becoming better corporate simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:42 PM
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Adapt or suffer. Adapt by cutting women like you off, suffer by chasing vapid beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:41 PM
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Seqence prediction =/= AI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:38 PM
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I had a woman try to kill me for rejecting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:36 PM
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No. What, do you think men are entitled to sex and women are entitled to approachers? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:34 PM
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No, it doesn't. Like the Duluth model, you're just lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:09 PM
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Inability to form or maintain attachments to their sexual partners is the biggest one, but there are others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:08 PM
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Not one that is worth marrying, I'll wager Sounds like the biggest obstacle to your romance, is you. definitely not one that is a virgin by choice Just go to churches. Duh, lol I set a worthy goal Hahahaha That's not likely to end well. Paid off college and grad school with it and got out nearly 10 years ago now. Worked out fantastic, better than failing to find a pure virgin for you did lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:06 PM
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70% percent of divorce is initiated by women. Majority of reasons is overwhelmingly abuse. No, the majority of the time it is pursuit of happiness stuff. You have no sources just bs. If you don't want to be with a man, don't. Leave. You won't be missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:01 PM
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The "not all men" males quickly switch their tune when their are talking to their daughters. No we don't lol Now you speak for men? You have a penis? We tell our daughters that men contain multitudes. If your dad didn't he sucks. How do you explain the statistics about male abuse of women? Women are more abusive. Guess you didn't do the reading. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ The stereotype of men being the bigger abusers is due to the sexist Duluth Model of domestic viole…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:53 PM
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I spent 10 years not degrading or compromising myself. You spent 10 years failing. I can find a virgin man in less than 30 minutes, it isn't hard. You set a goal for yourself and proceeded to fuck it up for a decade, this is cope lmao Though it was lonely and painful, it was better than the alternative You don't know the alternative. More cope. Also lol @ the notion that there was only one alternative. Narrowmindedness is not a virtue. past ten years of causal sex, Lady, I'm not casual about sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:46 PM
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Women get it way more than men lol, we literally get told we hate women just for saying most men don't act like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:36 PM
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Men are different from each other, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:34 PM
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You spent 10 years looking for a virgin and failed. I've spent the past 10 years with 13 different women, not including the people at the orgy I went to in 2016. Pretty sure the loser is the one who lost a decade of their life failing to get what they want. If you were honest with yourself you'd have realized that your bullying is just your dysfunctional lashing out at the people who have made better choices and enjoy better lives than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:28 PM
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Nah, you're just an abuser. Haven't seen you speak the truth once, it would be an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:20 PM
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Guess I touched a nerve! Try to be less weak. One of my wisest aunts always said, "If the truth can hurt you, Calling dudes you want to bully virgins has nothing to do with the truth lol Calling a man a virgin only works as an insult if he is a virgin but desperately wants to fuck around like a player Nah. Maybe the women who gang raped him as a child called him that, and he has traumatic memories associated with the word despite having no intention to 'fuck around like a player'. You just want …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:19 PM
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If I thought a woman only needs me like she needs a hole in the head, I would leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:05 PM
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There are always tells, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:04 PM
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So your argument is that calling a man a virgin only works if he fucks like a pornstar? Meanwhile if the man is actually a virgin he can't feel insulted fir being called a virgin? Seems pretty incoherent. You just have hideously prejudicial views of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:04 PM
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Men only have the safe spaces we do not tell women we have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 10:41 PM
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To mock it? Lol that isn't giving a shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:08 PM
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The “locker room talk” phrase came into the public lexicon because Donald Trump Uuuughghhjjhhjgh The phrase has been around since before the Great Depression as a commentary on American football culture. The public lexicon records it as early as 1921 ffs. The world did not spring into existence when Trump said "grab em by the pussy", it turns out there are thousands of years of human history that preceded that event. Donald Trump used it to explain away some disparaging comment or another (I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:57 PM
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tell me you've never worked construction before without telling me. I worked nearly a decade as a plumber with a lot of masonry work on the side lol, and I specifically avoided nepotism companies because they treat their employees like trash. Look, idiots exist in every demographic. You don't have any control over what others think or say, but you do have control over how much it impacts your day to day life. Resentful dumbasses are their own worst enemies, and paying much attention to them does…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:50 PM
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Not a problem lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:40 PM
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Lmao who gives a shit Watch out consenting adults, did you forget to ask Windmill Flowers what they do and don't consent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:38 PM
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What you described is nepotism, just because the business was small doesn't mean anything. Not my problem your standards suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:14 PM
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How is it harmful. Be specific. Also lol @ you getting vicariously upset over someone who was hired for being the boss's wife getting shittalked by the rest of the employees. That also happens if they are the boss's son. People tend to not respect those who only got where they are from nepotism, because nepotism not only denies actually qualified and honest people the jobs they deserve it also denies the company the talent it depends on to stay competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:41 PM
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The data shows that crime statistics are flawed and have been for decades, and nothing has been done to change that. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/ The other commenter already showed you this study so you are just being obtuse. because apparently, cops are…what? racist toward Black people and sexist toward men? Oh no, you really think government institutions are never corrupt or fallible or biased? Hahahaha... what a jejune greenhorn. When do you graduate from highschool, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:14 PM
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Equivalent to racist police crime data on black people. Look, as someone who had to fend off multiple sexual assault - at minimum - attempts from women in my life you simply are not going to convinvce me that men are the only or even the vast majority of sexual predators. It's just that when women rape men, nobody believes the victim is a victim. Even when the male in question was a child, he is denied any victim status and all too frequently no crime is reported. Until more data on the known wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:50 PM
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Not what the data shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:21 PM
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I didn't say its not, people can br aroused by multiple things. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:20 PM
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Teach everyone not to rape or teach everyone about consent, but targeting one population for the crime is prejudicial and reinforces the very stereotypes that perpetuate the problem. Might as well teach women and only women not to murder their children. How do you think that will play out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:31 AM
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I wasn’t there to see it in person so it’s fake. Keep saying that around the wrong people and they will show you what it looks like. So why have I never seen a war happening in front of my own eyes? You have, you just either lack the conceptual framework to identify it or you are playing dumb for the sake of supporting a fundamentally weak argument based on lies. The group you’re describing also kill people. No, they don't. They're just dumb kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:10 AM
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Exactly. It can happen anywhere, and it is usually far more boring than women want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:07 AM
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Because the concept of being a cuckqueen/cuckold is to be sexually aroused by having your partner having sex with other people. Simplistic and imprecise, but semi functional as far as definitions go. Definitely a definition from someone who has no direct experience of doing this wholesomely though, if at all. By definition, it mean if you are the one having sex with others, your cuck partner doesn’t have sex with you, Wrong, not in the definition at all. Some cuckqueens want to be fucked before/…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:38 AM
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I’ve never seen anyone being shot to death in my entire life. Then watch either Kennedy assassination, or the Collateral Murder video, or any number of documented and verified media that recorded such a morbid event. That cherry is pop-able, so much so that you really have to put effort into avoiding getting it popped these days to hold onto it. Does this mean that war and gun crime don’t actually exist and it’s just made up fearmongering? Surprise: most wars exist as products of made up fearmon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:30 AM
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Nice attempt at damage control What damage? Wtf are you talking about? So melodramatic. Women already know men do this. Nah, some sub par women tell themselves men do this with the same breath they use to tell themselves they are a greater authority on men than men are. Other men have admitted to it Liars exist in both sexes. caught doing it by their partners sneaking through the phones thinking they’d catch them cheating only to find them having “locker room talk” in their all male group chat. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:25 AM
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Locker room talk isn’t necessarily to be taken literally as a name Ffs, obviously Making a joke about how men are uncomfortable with sharing details about their private affairs was intended to highlight the absurdity of the premise. It was not a mating call for every pedant on this sub to come running over with their flaccid attempts at correction. Men could be having sordid discussions about women over beers Except they don't. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:20 AM
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Dude no one uses the excuse of "well they do it so we can also do it" to talk about this stuff. Ask a woman who gossips about her partner behind their back about why they think it is ok and 9/10 times they will say, "Oh but boys say FAR worse things with their locker room talk!". So I just don't buy this premise. I have seen and heard women do this all my life. Both sexes just love to talk about this crap it really isn't that deep. I don't think men enjoy it nearly as commonly, nor have I ever e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:00 AM
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Tf are you on about? People love to play victim, and this gives women an excuse to do it anywhere at any time and in reaction to practically any conversation between men. I have been with guys who don't discuss sex ever and I have been with guys who would casually chat about it and comment about certain women's bodies. Who is harmed by either of these interactions? And you know why certain men do this. Because it is fun. No it isn't, even talking about other dudes talking about it is painfully b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:53 PM
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Probably why so few are engaging with it tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:43 PM
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You are taking the phrase waaaaaaaaay too literally. Locker room talk doesn't need to actually take place in locker rooms. As drinking flasks are to alcoholics, so is this definition to paranoid self-victimization hypochondriacs. Sate your addiction anywhere and everywhere, because the infamous Locker Room Talk can be happening RIGHT NOW at an office room watercooler near you! Got any more validation for my hypothesis this is a fearmongering fantasy? Also we definitely do talk in locker rooms wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:23 PM
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Nah, it is cheating to lie to your partner for the sake of benefiting yourself at their expense. This is possible to do not just sexually, but emotionally, financially, and other ways too. If no deceit is occuring, everyone involved is fully aware of what is happening, and everyone consents with it and wants it to continue, cheating is not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:16 PM
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She encourages it because she fears him leaving If she was afraid of him leaving she wouldn't provide him with options to leave with, lmao A cuckqueen is simply a woman who experiences her idiosyncratic zenith of sexual pleasure and erotic intensity while watching her man fuck another woman. It has nothing to do with fearing anything. I've had one night stands with cuckqueens, how could they be afraid I would leave them when they were already single and not interested in anything long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:13 PM
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No person who has any self respect would allow their partner to cheat on them. That's why she is encouraging and requesting it, not allowing it. Sick projection there dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:41 PM
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If the woman you are with is begging you to fuck another woman in front of her, and you cannot stop feeling like you are cheating despite how you are fulfilling your partner's explicit request, then all that means is kinky sex is not your thing. Not that you actually cheated on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:39 PM
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Right? So odd that their reflex is to challenge the commitment of either partner, when both are working to fulfill and please each other. This sort of kink depends on immense loyalty for both partners too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:37 PM
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Bizarre generalizations. If your partner is begging you to fuck someone else right in front of her, doing so is not cheating by any sane definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:35 PM
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What happened to commitment? If I am committed to my partner's happiness and this is what she says she wants, and I have no problem with it, then my commitment leads me to at least try it out. If I derive pleasure from it too, why wouldn't I see where commitment to her leads?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:34 PM
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who actually desire me enough to have sex with me Why is this mutually exclusive with your concept of a cuckqueen?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:32 PM
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Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean? Nah. Had fun with a few of those already, have always been curious about a LTR with one. Would you still be with her or would you pull the plug on that relationship immediately? Depending on how stable she is through the whole scene and afterwards, I'd quickly move to escalate the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:31 PM
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It's fearmongering bullshit. You have yet to describe any instance where anyone was actually harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:28 PM
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But men have told me that they do. I've never seen it, in or out of locker rooms. Can't account for every conversation, but it can't be that widespread if I can go nearly 40 years without witnessing it. Some have even claimed that men who say otherwise are "lying." Once again, this has been told by men themselves. On PPD? How do you know those are men? They could be lab apes with keyboards for all you know, or sequence prediction bots. I don't get why it's hard to phantom that there are guys out…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:13 PM
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Sure, in that the boy's are not actually violating the trust of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:33 PM
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And unless you shared private info about real people with that guy, nothing equivalent happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:32 PM
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locker room talk is not the same as women speaking to friends about their partners This is compleye bullshit. for the most part locker room talk is Not real. It does not happen. It is not a thing which exists in the way misandrist women describe it. If men talk in the locker room it is about working out, plans after working out, or changes in schedule for future work outs. no cis woman can ever really know how bad it gets because no matter what men will always censor themselves around a woman, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:30 PM
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It’s one of many myths many men claim as a fact on here Lol what? Men don't chat in the bathroom, why would we chat when we are even more naked in the locker room?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:26 PM
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I have been with women who lied about their long term goals, their current or past relationships, what they like about me, practically everything really. It's not hard to imagine one lying about her attraction too if she thought it suited her interests. Obviously leave any liar ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:09 PM
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"Tokenism is not racism" Bullshit. Y'all are so racist you persecute other residents of your island for not being from downtown London.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:55 AM
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Fuck no. Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:45 PM
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The “social biases” and “sociocultural views” you’re talking about are a result of people having basic pattern recognition skills. No, they are instinctually ingrained reflexes which people use to rationalize their confirmation bias, which in turn rationalizes their bigotry. The “erasing gender-biases” you demand from studies is nothing more than asking people to meaninglessly reaffirm common sense The most common 'common sense' is bigotry. You’re so obsessed with achieving equality with women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:16 PM
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That is not how language works. You're in the capitol of English, learn a thing or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:12 PM
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It's like lead poisoning, spend a year in London and there is no measurable difference. It is the island that is cursed as much as the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:00 PM
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You explicitly support misandry. That is all that is required to be a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:59 PM
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How many women died in WWII, compared to how many men? There is your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:57 PM
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It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:56 PM
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The chance is closer to 2.5%, you just subscribe to bigotry instead of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:56 PM
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British people are the most bigoted of all the world and you're certainly proving the stereotype correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:55 PM
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Queen Victoria mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:51 PM
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Tldr Confirmation bias to rationalize hate is intrinsically invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:42 PM
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I already said: the many women who go out of their way to avoid men. You are being obtuse, nothing of value lost by blocking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:39 PM
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You're denying that women can rape men, when it absolutely happens. You are ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:35 PM
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convince men to start going to the police for their sexual assaults. Convince police to take those men seriously, and more will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:34 PM
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The categorical avoidance of men is an overestimation of risk many women engage in every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:25 PM
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It is self evident. Women have reflexive fear of men as a category and not the specific men who are a threat. Again, you are being obtuse. Wake me up when you are here in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:58 PM
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So many men think rape is sexual. It’s just violence bro It is sexual violence. Duh. Try to think outside of false dichotomies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:03 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:01 PM
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Wrong. Women do way more domestic violence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ You are just conflating your misandry with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:00 PM
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You are being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:58 AM
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Crime statistics and observations of women's behavior. It is practically self evident women do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:58 AM
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Some concerts and house parties can be fun when done with real friends, the rest is usually tolerable in a 'sure why not' kind of way. I'd rather die than pick women up at happy hours anymore, those ladies are too insane. Ultimately the activity is most fun if both people are there to focus on it, and what takes the fun out of dating is feeling like you can't relax because you're always being evaluated or like you have to make connections. Turning fun into a chore or a job interview is not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:26 AM

The world already does bend to me, I aim to bend it some more. Don't need to cry about it when I can just point out how miserable people like you are, and use you as examples of what not to be. So miserable you are projecting your own tears onto others while reinforcing the same male stereotypes that set the world against you. See if you can overcome being painfully self defeating next.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:19 AM
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I don’t want to be with a partner who never uses my vulnerability against me only because I don’t give them the chance to. I want to be with a partner who I can trust to hear my vulnerabilities and won’t try to use them against me. Then seek and find a man, or seek a woman and a lot of luck. You can see it in another way. Let’s say there’s a gun pointed at my head and my partner can pull the trigger. I can choose to load the gun with a bullet. With my ideal partner, I trust that if I load the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:16 AM
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Where is she going meet this boring man if not outside and at an event whose entire purpose IS CONNECTIONS Literally anywhere else. Nothing is more boring than a networking event anyway. If dating needs to be so hard on men it should at least be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:45 AM

I feel like the truth upsests you. I take distinct pleasure in telling you your feeling is a lie. It's like being chosen last in gym class Most gym class end within an hour, do not contain any element of monogamous sexual relationships, and don't lead to marraige and kids. So it really, absolutely is not like gym class at all. What a bizarrely oversimplistic simile for someone who accuses others of being upset by 'the truth'. The moment a better opportunity comes along, they'll bail. They don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:25 AM

I'm too busy dating shy women, they'd get jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:16 AM

A bit more than half of the human beings who exist at least, way more than the people who care about me or you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:15 AM

Get out more I guess? Idk what you want me to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:14 AM

What people call shyness is usually mere introversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:13 AM

What country exists where men aren't expected to help women feel safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:13 AM

By their nature, shy men aren't "seen" by anyone at all. Absurdist hyperbole. I'm talking about shy men, but you've reframed it as men in general Defining masculinity around extroversion is an objectification of all men, introverted and extroverted alike. It is men in as a gender who are impacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:11 AM

Does that extend to politics and economics, or just dating and social success? Is the ideal modern citizen really an island unto themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:53 PM

Most opinions about the motivations of others, maybe. 'Most opinions' are blunt truths, such as "I think chocolate is delicious/awful".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:32 PM

It is obvious that's my opinion. That does not change how you still surpass all objective standards to determine ridiculousness. Try to make fewer and less useless comments and you should be able to get your RQ down to normal levels. Again "Oh come on!" isn't proof or an argument Correct, the burden of proof is on you and strawmanning me is not proof of anything but your ridiculousness. Calm down, nothing I wrote was dramatic. Take deep breaths, maybe light a sented candle, and practice mindfull…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:25 PM

You are objectively acting pretty ridiculous right now. Everyone knows that the vast majority of women are either too anxiety prone or too skewered on the barbed hook of toxic gender roles to take on the risk of rejection and approach the men they want. If you think the conventional wisdom is wrong the burden of proof is on you to prove your astronomically less probable hypothesis correct. Nobody is here to build your case for you, you are a grown woman who doesn't need a daddy figure to hold yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:18 PM
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No one does, and the only way to guarantee one's partner never does that is to never give them the chance to do it. See the logic yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:12 PM
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Remember that women who uphold patriarchal gender norms don’t deserve you. You deserve a supportive partner! Ah, idealism. So confident in its hubris. Yes this is technically correct, it is also practically a sentencing to lifelong solitude for many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:09 PM

It is a tiny minority lol, don't get hysterical over objective fact. It is a quantity so low it can be mistaken for a margin of error. Of course I define "approach" as "zero plausible deniability, direct exposure to risk of rejection".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:06 PM

second of all, yes that's correct. abusers and bad boys suffer from an excess of masculinity, No they suffer from a deficit of empathy and an excess of psychopathy. You just define abuse as masculine because you are toxically biased. I have always found extroverts to be weak, all bark and no bite. Both women and men, if they talk too much it's because they have nothing of interest or value between their ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:03 PM

In the east introversion is seen as masculine and extroversion is feminine. They don't have any issues protecting their own lol, if anything the east will suprass the west on every quality of life index sometime in the mid 21st century.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:00 PM

Why does "empathy or sympathy" from women have to involve mothering men? Your concept of mothering is pretty problematic if it involves sexual relationships. Pervert. Shyness is a detriment in a society that functions on communication and socialization. Introversion is seen as the pinnacle of masculinity in the east, so clearly it is perfectly fine. Femchilds are just too fragile to tolerate divergence from toxic gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:58 PM

Cool. So it's also not men's job to cater to women's anxieties or interests either, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:56 PM

Why can't women be socialized to realize that men are people too? What's the matter, you don't think women are smart enough to pull that off?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:55 PM

A tiny minority of women approach attractive men like me, while avoiding the rest like the rest of women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:52 PM

This is just shallow stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:51 PM

This doesn't make sense because the people doing the work aren't the people who have the problem. Men already do the work to help women with their equivalent problem. You're saying the only solution to this issue has to come from men doing even more work. Which is pretty lame. Men are tired of playing daddy to femchilds. It is not a worthwhile relationship from the start, so all that work is just to gain a partner who starts from a position of entitlement from default.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:49 PM

That's a projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:46 PM

Human experience lasts for all enternity. When we die we wake up right where we started as a newborn, groundhog day style. So build the life you want to relive forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:33 PM

Society collapsing would directly lead to billions of miserable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:16 PM

Part of the disconnect between the sexes is a product of the alienation either group feels when the other denies a foundational reality of their experiences. Acknowledging that dating for most women is primarily a struggle of qualifying candidates - while dating for most men is a struggle against social/sexual isolation, the subversion of their mental health and success caused by widespread androphobia and misandry, and the ever increasing pressure to be a provider during an economic era defined…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:16 PM

Why? They know acknowledgement doesn't heal anything too, just that it is a necessary prerequisite to stop the damage from getting worse. It is still insufficient to heal any of the damage already extant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:39 PM

It isn't. Abortion has been legal for decades across the country and the 'unwanted men' alive today were all born during that period. Accordingly you are not talking about just passively allowing the abortions of voluntary abortions. You are calling for a policy of enforced culling of unborn male human beings. Leaving aside the insanely unethical and morally radioactive nature of such a policy, it is also not logistically or economically feasible. How are 'unwanted men' supposed to be determined…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:37 PM

Acknowledgement does not heal anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:24 PM

What the fuck are you smoking dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:23 PM

You're not being real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:22 PM
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How interesting, no response. Just like your previous post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:55 PM
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She tried to drive me off the road into a construction site at 65mph. Based on how the vast majority of the women and many of the guys in our feminist activism group responded and how she got away without even any record of the charges against her, I'd wager the actual "norm" is far more women act violently entitled to men's time and attention than criminal statistics suggest. Also, given the fact that the abuse in 70% of non-reciprocally abusive relationships is done by women, 'the norm' of bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:33 AM
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Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. This is bullshit. Men are afraid women will have them ostracized, beaten, imprisoned, or murdered. A woman even tried to kill me once for rejecting her. Every time I see this dumb quip it reminds me that my attempted murderess faced precisely zero legal or social consequences for trying to end my life. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:06 PM
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That's even more bizarre and unweildy of a stretch than I thought, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:57 PM
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Do men really want women to give them a "chance"? Probably. Depends on the man and the woman. But, is this really desirable from the man's standpoint? An explicit green light to try to woo her? Why wouldn't that be desirable, seems like that is the core point of dating. Because let's assume for the moment that giving men a "chance" becomes a commonplace practice among women as an alternative to an upfront rejection of the man. It would then be the case that a woman's agreeing to go on a date wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:15 PM
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The people OP made up to upset themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:13 PM
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why is it hard to accept that the opposite is also true? It isn't, and I think you are making up a strawman. I don't think anyone argues the opposite is false, repeated mistreatment by a demographic is going to foster hatred for that demographic. That is practically self evident. It isn't a just outcome, no, but it is a practically unavoidable outcome. I had a lot of comments saying that men are angry at women because women treat them badly on a personal level Is that what they were saying? The …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:08 PM
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Correct, immature idiots staining feminism with their bigotry is why the movement is nowhere near as influential as it could be. Keep shooting yourself in the foot for all I care
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:28 PM
3

Correct. Sharp seems closer to an astroturf campaign than a genuine good faith interlocutor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:27 PM
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You gendered it Sharp. Such a bad liar lol it was always an utter lack of accountability on the part of men who in fact girlfriendzoned or fuckzoned their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:03 PM
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So ignoring the obvious romantic feelings of someone who you call a friend for long periods of time, all while weilding their desire against them to make them serve your interests, certainly qualifies as deserving moral judgement. If all a person is doing is keeping their unrequited feelings to themselves there is nothing self serving or narcissistic about that. What's narcissistic is expecting others, especially those you claim to care about, to suppress their feelings for your comfort and vani…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:02 PM
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Not necessarily at all. Unrequited love can refer to someone who is deeply private about their feelings but is unable to control them, or to a borderline harrassment charge. Not sure why you feel the need to inject moral judgement into unluckily unshared feelings and thoughts. Are the skeletons in the closet haunting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:40 PM
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Infatuation and obsession aren't love, ffs "Unrequited love" is an umbrella term Sharp, it tastefully refuses to take sides or get into the weeds of the situation. That's probably why you are so bitter about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:36 PM
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No one is demanding reparation, don't be hysterical lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:30 PM
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Lmao Tell us more about how you cannot maintain a logical premise Sharp. This is honestly pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:30 PM
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It seems like you are projecting your own history onto things more than grappling with the specific comments you are replying to, as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:28 PM
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So men don't actually build and maintain the infrastructure, How is that a relevant reply to what they wrote Sharp? Of course it is primarily men, by astronomic margins, who build and maintain infrastructure. That does not mean they have power over anyone. Ffs, in slave economies it is slaves who build and maintain infrastructure despite having less power than any free person of any gender. but are in fact "controlled" by a single platonic female friend who has shown zero sexual interest in him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:27 PM
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That's just unrequited love lol, ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:24 PM
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Lmao hell no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:22 PM
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It's been around since before Euripedes wrote Hippolytus ffs. The 'spiteful woman driven by jealousy and desire to control men around her' concept is an archetype older than writing itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:22 PM
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You're the reason why feminism is facing mounting opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:48 PM
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So... librarians? Lol But for real, anti-intellectualism is arguably one of the defining differences in between white American and white European cultures. Something about the colonial era selected against erudite critical thinkers, and the results are visible in every aspect of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:03 AM
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"Yes I am a slavery abolitionist living in the year of our lord in 1862. No I have never heard of Abraham Lincoln..."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:56 PM
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The books.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:26 PM
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Do you choose your s/o according to her SMV? Pffft hahahaha Fuck no. What a great way to make oneself a miserable asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:06 PM
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I hope you suffer every ounce of indifference you have inflicted on others when you need it most. You obviously will never learn otherwise. Ostracism is a form of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:31 PM
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This comment section proved to me women have it harder. Being callously inhumane for no reason generally makes life harder, but not as hard as the people you are inhumane to. Grow up. I don't hate men because of that. I hate men for what they do and did to me and other women when I was already an adult. Lol, come tf on. You were cyberbullied, that is your evil villian origin story? I was almost murdered for rejecting a woman and I don't indulge in the hate you do. You're just clinging to your co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:26 PM
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Why did you comment on the autistic man's comment but not on mine? Why didn't you comment on any man's comment who suffered violence from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:24 PM

You have basic humanity issues. Not wanting to 'deal with' autistic people or associate with them is just pure ableist bigotry. They're not going to bite you hysterical bigot, they just have innate difficulties picking up on social cues and are far more likely to be harmed than harm anyone. At least the bullies are working out their own abused trauma, cowards like you who damn people to empty and maladaptive childhoods of slow despair just because they don't act like cookie cutter copies of you …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:11 PM

Ableist victim blaming, how deeply disgusting. No wonder women are less and less popular every year, y'all flaunt how much you deserve less than what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:28 PM
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Doing their homework for them is more than help. You are being ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:26 PM
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It does mean you are mamipulative and likely planting the seeds for his future resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:25 PM
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Classic victim blaming bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:23 PM

To be fair, you're being a real dick here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:22 PM

"It's just childhood trauma haunting your every waking moment, just ignore it." You're a real scumlicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:20 PM
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Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"? Aside from the one who tried to murder me for rejecting her, and the huge chunk of women I thought were my friends who turned on me and helped her evade justice? I've been groped, objectified, mocked and ostracized for romance drama crap, stolen from, hit a bunch, and ghosted. Oh and pretty sure I had my shit vandalized by one too. Then there was the Mrs. Robinson shit when I was a teen. about women supposedly treating men awfully. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:17 PM
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Lol, owned
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:55 PM
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So you think it is funny for women to get away with attempted murder? Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:02 PM
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Sounds like you're a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:12 PM
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The answer is all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:12 PM

Fair but you guys aren’t able to explain it aside you HAVE to. Sure I can. This probably is not the first time this has been explained to you, so next time you make this claim... don't! Here we go. The dopamine and seratonin and oxytocin women get from talking and working with other women? Men get about a tenth or less of the same chemicals from the same interactions. Social and emotional validation does not satisfy us like it does for women. It helps sure, but it does not scratch the itchiest o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:21 PM

I made a joke about doing the limbo in hell, that's 'acting offended' to you? Sheesh, lighten up buttercup. Little wonder that you criticize other men for having basic standards of emotional maturity and mental health. If you’re happy and also in a poly relationship why were you seething that I said that chick was based? Seething is what you're doing kiddo. I am lightly making fun of you in the hopes it sparks the start of your self awareness, I'm having a blast lol Valorizing women who feed on …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:29 PM
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The vast majority of the time they got a life of slavery and a violent premature death for it. Tf are you talking about??
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 06:00 PM
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There are certain issues that are worsened by feminism. However, the root cause generally isn't feminism. Spousal abuse justice disparity is entirely caused by feminism. But even if feminism 'only' worsened it, then that is still sufficient grounds for worthy critique. For instance, gender-neutral rape laws isn't a product of feminism. They only contribute to it. And perpetuate them, and defend them, and advocate for them. The majority of men's issues are due to traditional beliefs, yet very lit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 05:58 PM

My rebuttal is you're not qualified to take seriously, and your inability to grasp that proves me right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:47 PM

Cope and seethe about it more sucker, I'm laughing at you and her. I'm in a poly relationship with a fiance and a girlfriend, I love women who are sex positive and not afraid of their freak side. Those are not the same as the women who feed their ego on stringing men along or turning them down. The fact that you need the difference explained to you says everything. Keep defending the shit behavior of coworkers who see you as an orbiter at best, you'll get the life you deserve!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:45 PM

You meant to say, I did not say anything, I wrote it; and I wrote what I meant to say. I don't need some illiterate imp squatting on my pencil's eraser to tell me what to write, I am an adult. Your lack of familiarity with the concept of intellectual maturity is your failure and no one else's. Also you did not even correct my grammar properly lmao, there was nothing to correct. Grades are a discreetly quantifiable noun, "many" is no less applicable as "high" while also informing the reader that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:40 PM

"I don't have any problem reading... so long as it isn't much reading... and the words are 3 syllables or less... and I need my inflatable arm tubes and my mommy needs to hold my hand. Then reading is not a problem for me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:01 PM

Meh, not my problem you can't keep up with my literacy. Why should I change to indulge a weaker mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:12 PM

r/whoosh Sorry, apparently the 8th grade reading level is a few too many for you. Please, climb down off the cross. Gotta finish nailing you to it as a warning to the others first, hold still. Oh, are we to the part of the conversation where only the most literal use of words count? We are at the part of your vivisection where you break down into incoherent sobs because nobody has any desire to take your lies seriously. Just boo hooing all over, "Waaah, why won't men listen to me as I tell them …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:10 PM

Forever-a-hoe is based now? No wonder men are pulling back from women lately. The bar is in hell and they still try to limbo under it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:54 PM

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:37 PM

None of that makes these women worth dating. I used to attend these events as a paid plant, under the premise it would drive up male participation. It never did, but I did get a lot of insight into the type of women who organize and attend such events. They invariably have no empathy for men, so even if they are physically attractive they are emotionally repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:33 PM

Yeah, it makes me suspicious that supposedly all women at the single mixers are unattractive when men claim they're attracted to most women. The vast majority of men are not attracted to indifference or contempt for men. The ladies may or may not be physically attractive, but if they are at a singles event they are emotionally repellant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:31 PM

I mean two of my co-workers went to a speed dating event and both are thin attractive women in their 20s, That does not mean they ever successfully built a wholesome relationship with a man. one legit has a bf and just wanted to see what a speed dating event was like This is evidence of her contempt for men and her bf, not that she is successful at dating. So she's undermining her bf's trust while rejecting every man in front of her at the event, all because she cares more about her curiosity (a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:25 PM

I just don’t understand why you guys need 🐱 to be a little productive And you never will because you don't experience what it is like to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:19 PM

Psychopath anecdotes don't define anything for normally humane people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:17 PM

Women who approach men are fine lmao My two most successful relationships are both ongoing and started with the ladies approaching me. It works best when they only approach at the very beginning as a signal that they want to be courted and seduced, the green light at the start allows the guy to really give his best effort with the assurance that she will at least give him an honest chance. Women who attend singles events invariably have zero empathy for men, women who approach men almost always …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:15 PM

Did you not see the argument? You made a transparent insult, not an argument. Not surprised you cannot tell the difference. My mistake, I thought the meaning was clear. It's clear you are only interested in abusing men. You, like many red pillers, are preemptively excluding women based on no criteria whatsoever That's a lie, the criteria is whether or not they attend or organize singles events. Are you drunk? Should be easy to keep track of these basic elements of what people are talking about u…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:10 PM

It's interesting how many bluepillers conflate contempt for men with insight. Especially bluepill men who seem to loathe everything that men are. Men like this are just the bluepill version of a hazing frat house who makes fun of anyone who doesn't need or want to degrade themselves just to be accepted by abusive shitheads. Red pillers already belong to a club that have them as a member: red pill. You really couldn't put that together without an adult holding your hand? It's not that red pill gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:01 PM

Being correct is easier than being wrong, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:51 PM

I think it's actually a good thing that men aren't invading female spaces If only women would stop invading our spaces too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:50 PM

Because they are the ones who reject to pad their ego. Bullies are more fragile, not resilient lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:49 PM

More like revulsion in response to objectification
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:48 PM

Lol @ another Windmill Flowers troll post. You actually got more than 20 upvotes for this one, congrats at learning how to pass a bit better. I'll indulge this one to celebrate. Why aren't males attending singles events anymore? Because men care about our mental health and these events do not. When you look up "singles mixer" on social media, you will come across these posts talking about how males just aren't attending anymore. Good. Maybe they will stop organizing them. In this clip the EVENT …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:33 PM

Don't lie. I've been to these things as a paid plant, the women there are not interested in meeting men at the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 12:37 PM

I’m sorry, I think I had a stroke caused by your logic. We can all hope. You think that because she’s there, she has high standards? Yes. The women who attend these events are invariably highly networked and have practically zero empathy for men. If they cared more about men's experiences and PoV they would automatically realize these events are a waste of time because they repell nearly all men. So if she is there, it is because she thinks too highly of herself to get a date naturally and doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 12:32 PM
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Yes Virginia, there is thoughtful, effective feminism. Wake me up when the thoughtful and effective feminists roll back the Duluth Model and I might consider no longer defining them as a hate group. Until then, waiting on them to reign in their misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 06:17 PM
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I just corrected all the lies you claim are fact, so I care infinitely more than you. Go peddle your vapid slave mindset to someone who hates themselves as much as you do, your lies are wasted on me.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/09/24 06:11 PM
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Fact: According to a 2018 survey by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), 74% of right-wing men view traditional masculine traits, such as leadership, strength, and courage, as positive and essential to society. I don't care what misandrists think. Your claim is not only incorrect but ignores the overwhelming support for masculine values among right-wing men. They have the value system of slaves, not men. Until they liberate themselves they are more of a threat to themselves and other men tha…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/09/24 06:07 PM
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Fact: Over 80% of right-wing voters in the U.S. emphasize the importance of traditional family values, which closely aligns with male advocacy groups focused on preserving family structures (Pew Research Center, 2020). Those advocacy groups are also misandrist for pigeonholing men's interests into the nuclear family scam. The rise of the nuclear family directly corresponds with the exponentially elevated rates of successful male suicides, both began in lockstep with the Industrial Revolution whi…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/09/24 05:50 PM
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I haven't. You have, and still are. The right wing puts a focus on the traditional family structure and strong families. Yeah, that's part of what makes them misandrist. They are the backbone of any society Families?? The concept of the nuclear family is the backbone of an exploitative capitalist society, sure. It is also the primary yoke that men get locked around their necks which ultimately transforms them into sacrificial lambs for the wealthy. They improve men's image by highlighting and ce…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/09/24 04:20 PM
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How is the right, who embrace masculinity, The right doesn't embrace masculinity, they crucify it on a cross of self hatred. Everything they define masculinity by is actually men participating in their own destruction and enslavement, cracking the whip on their own back so that some callous-free hand need not bother. We got to be real here, You are welcome to join us in reality when you are ready. we've seen some misandrist stuff from the right, Name a single unvarnished benefit the right has ev…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/09/24 04:10 PM
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If Kamala Harris wins will the Republican Party hopefully return to normal or something? Lol, why tf would it? When Obama beat McCain and Romney did they get more normal or less? The left isn't a great party, and the right wasn't before Trump became president, but once Trump became president the right became fucking terrible Both were always terrible. Tf? Was the Iraq War and Katrina not bad enough? Was the dot.com bubble and deindustrialization not bad enough?? You need different perspectives a…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/09/24 04:05 PM

an intentional subversion of the more common socially acceptable misogyny of the past. It is also a perfect recreation of victorian era misandry, where men were deemed as brutal animals unless 'civilized' by the white supremacist capitalist superstructure. Everyone wants to compare it to making these statements about black folks, but it's more like making the same type of statement about white people. No, it is often the exact same phrasing as literal nazi propaganda against black people. The 'b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:23 AM
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Stay 'true to yourself' all you like lol, the more you take pride in refusing to adapt the more adaptation is advantageous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:25 PM
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Nah, stubborn people are the fussiest thin skinned crybabies alive. Shutting down and refusing to adapt out of sheer inertia is as fragile as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:09 PM
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“Believe all women” was never a literal suggestion. That's a HYSTERICALLY funny thing to say while you argue that men should take women more literally, and trust that women mean what they say. Like ffs, pick a position and stick with it already. I was already thinking you're trolling. What am I supposed to think now, that the person who wants men to trust women mean what they say also wants men to not trust that women mean what they say?? Also - yes the hell it was a literal suggestion. It was u…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:01 PM
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Idk, like I said I am a sadist. I feel pleasure when I sense another's pain, and I have caused a lot of pain. But I have never intentionally caused harm outside of self defense. My conscience is fully functional and my integrity intact, and it has nothing to do with how I feel in response to other's pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:50 PM
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But you don’t know the percentage of women Correct, I also do not need to know that. It is not relevant information. Unless I know with omniscient clarity which specific individuals are liars and which are not then a position of guarded skepticism is perfectly valid. "Believe all women" sounds good on paper but in reality some women are liars. Some women are theives. Some women are rapists. Some women are murderers. Many are just stupid - just like men. So thanks but no thanks, I will keep my cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:27 PM
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What a coincidence, I am a professional sexual sadist and empathy is my most valuable tool too. Empathy allows me to feel the pain I inflict so that I can inflict more and make a real performance out of the ordeal. However, I would never call any action I directly benefit from "paying it forward". What I meant is that empathy without reciprocity is pearls before swine. When I was volunteering at a shelter, before covid, homeless people were among the most reliable reciprocators of any empathy I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:17 PM
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Lol @ the mods rushing to clean the doodoo stains off their bigot mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:49 PM

The lesbian and bi women stats always seem misrepresented to me. You've expressed numerous chauvanist views to dismiss women's abuse and frame women as victims, so that reactionary dismissal fits your MO. Isn’t the stat that those women have experienced higher rates of DV in their lifetime compared to straight women? Not that their female partners have committed DV? They have experienced higher rates than straight women because women are more abusive. What, do you think someone can be abused int…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:08 PM
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Wrong. Men just don't report the violence women inflict on us. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ "In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:18 PM
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Never pay anything forward that you know you will never be paid back, especially empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:26 PM
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Found the man hater
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:24 PM
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He is successful in the eyes of society No he isn't, he is successful to you. Society is jailing him. majority of people look up to guys like him. Lol, child. This is the brutal reality pill. Hahahahahaha loser
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:16 AM
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Weasel isn't saying they have the exact same audience, he's saying they have the same method of building that audience. They appeal to different demographics of vulnerable men, yes correct, but they still weild religiously charged fantasies as lures to inflate their own value in the eyes of insecure and lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:27 AM
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You really are the type of guy who thinks the stripper loves him, damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:15 AM
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I don't ideologically agree with him or like him at all. "Successful" means you believe he has a life you see as desireable. His life consists of coercing poor or otherwise vulnerable women into sex work, and creating a Disney Princess fantasy for insecure men. If that is success to you, then you share more of his ideology than you think and you don't have the confidence to even be honest with yourself about that. You wouldn't call it success if he did not succeed in appealing to you. Whether yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:28 AM
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Definitely feel the same way man, 1000% It's a very specific feeling, realizing that the person you're talking to lives in a contrived world where you are not allowed to exist as you actually are despite no fault of your own. Sharper than disappointment, more corrosive than ennui, more suffocating than hatred.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/08/24 01:15 AM
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That's repugnant, I'm sorry you had to deal with that crap. Hope you're doing fine
/r/EverydayMisandry29/08/24 01:08 AM
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That's a disappointing reply. Either explain how telling men to be honest about saying no is manipulative or admit you completely misinterpreted OP's position in a way that ultimately proves OP right. Cause I am not trolling and it is very easy to understand that you are portraying "men should learn to say no" as manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:28 PM
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I’m saying that men here discount expamples of women of women doing what they say. Because it is whataboutism. The existence of an extreme minority who do live by their word does not mean it is any less practical to pay infinitely more attention to their actions anyway. So it is irrelevant, aka whataboutist, to bring it up. It changes nothing, but it makes you feel better. there really is no way for women to be believed in this scenario. Sure there is, she has to act in conformity with her words…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:26 PM
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The average man has traumatic experiences with women. I don't expect you to understand or respect our truth, you have demonstrated you can't already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:23 PM
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How is the woman having it easier if she’s being made to prove herself to a neurotic guy all the time? She isn't, that's why she has it easier. Most women who do this are not even aware their partner has to mask around them, because their privilege makes the mask invisible. What's funny about this question is how it is DARVO. It is the men who have to prove themselves to neurotic women by masking their true vulnerabilities. If a man is telling you that you have not earned enough of his trust for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:26 PM
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For being human and mortal and male, more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:17 PM
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Misandry and abelism go together like priests and molesters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:16 PM
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Whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:11 PM
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As a man, every time I paid more attention to what women say than what they do I was brutally scarred for it. So no, I don't think I will believe that. If I did, I would have died to the woman who tried to kill me for rejecting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:11 PM
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But OP isn't talking about setting healthy boundaries, I disagree. OP literally describes the impulse many men feel to indulge every whim of their lady partners in detail, explains how that indulgence indirectly threatens the relationship's integrity (for all relationships, but especially those with women who don't try to manage or emotionally regulate themselves, which is a disturbingly high quantity of women), and then provides his step by step reasoning for why the ability to simply say "no" …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:06 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't choose to remain with either person. If my partner kept viewing me suspiciously and hid his emotional state from me all the time, or pulled any of this "holding frame" nonsense where he has zero trust in me whatsoever AND is emotionally manipulative as OP suggests...I would break up with him. So you just instantly trust a guy after the first successful dates? Or maybe after he asked you out the first time? Or is trust earned over time with effort, and thus fleeing a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:50 PM
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Given that you are reacting to a post about men setting healthy boundaries by getting suspicious and refusing to take it seriously, can't you see that this trend among men is a reaction to women's near universal mistreatment of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:12 PM
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does OP's post sound utterly exhausting for both people. The woman don't sound exhausted at all tbf. They're literally being indulged. The man because he has to constantly hold a neverending "frame" of perfection and always being the original guy she fell for rather than showing any of the minor changes or new desires he has as he gets older, learning new things. Yeah, tell me about it. 😒 The woman because she's with someone who believes her version of love is inherently receptive/consumption ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:06 PM
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Bullshit hatemongering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:00 PM
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Have you never seen a LTR hetero dynamic where the woman has more power than the man in some aspects? Sure. Never seen one where she respects him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:59 PM
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That's a hell of a Freudian slip, almost wrote "I'm the biggest turnoff" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:58 PM
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Indeed, you saying I need to grow up and that I am a dweeb are insults which reveal your skin is a bit too thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:36 PM
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I look better than the butthurt insecurity you are putting on display.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:55 PM
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Oh I’m sorry - A lie. does that very small distinction matter that much The fact that RoeVWade was never codified into law is the primary reason why it was overturned. So it is not a small distinction, it is THE distinction which made it possible for women to lose reproductive rights. I guess you don't care about that? Do you feel just so super smart that it was a precedent set that backed up the laws we had in place? What laws? Lol. Also, no. Knowing RoeVWade was never a law does not make me 'f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:54 AM
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Bullshit, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:43 AM
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I didn't say it is, I said you should try to have empathy. Evidently you are too inadequate of a human being to even try, what a loveless failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:43 AM
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Lol, bullshit they don't. "Show me, no those don't count". Troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:41 AM
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I'm not the one painting hypothetical men in the colors of child abusers for taking care of their own mental health, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:32 PM
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You don't have to. But it means you didn't love the child It doesn't mean dick. Knowing that your trauma and resentment is going to fuck up the kid and avoiding that outcome is an expression of love. If the kid can't accept that then that is on them. You're so controlling you need to dictate people's emotional state to them to feel better about yourself. Which will then most likely also be the case if you ever get some yourself. More victim blaming bullshit. You are truly obsessed with villianiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:29 PM
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Misandry runs deep, turns men against themselves just like misogyny can do with women. Note how they all characterize the man protecting his sanity by leaving as 'punishing' the child, but never consider the obvious fact that forcing the man to stay is punishing him for being a victim. They are all convinced that the victim is a victim because he deserves it. It's just victim blaming all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:07 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:46 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:46 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:45 PM
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Correct, the father not the man who was victimized by the father and the cheating mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:44 PM
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Its not a punishment. Forcing a man to raise some other man's fraudseed is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:43 PM
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Found the paternity fraudster.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:42 PM
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Have empathy with men for a change. Just try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:32 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/RdJUKZCjGl
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:31 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/RdJUKZCjGl
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:31 PM
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They're bluepilled, "surprised" is an incorrect spelling of "in denial"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:28 PM
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RoeVWade was never a law lol, it was a SCOTUS precedent. Lmao, educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:23 PM
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The child will suffer no matter what the man does, and it is not his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:22 PM
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I HAVE seen people say those dads should absolutely not be financially responsible going forward, and should leave their lying spouses. But it would be cruel to tell a kid you've been raising as your own, "sorry, your mom lied so you're dead to me forever, fuck you." It may be cruel, but it is ultimately the mom's cruelty. It would be cruel to the man to make him stay against his will. The man is just looking after his own mental health, the person who deliberately inflicted harm on him AND the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:21 PM

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:41 AM

It’s not impossible to confront these expectations if you begin to release them. Though it’s been a difficult task for me I’ve begun years ago to define my own version of manhood rather than allowing others to control me. Everyone does that. It is also irrelevant, not a challenge to the power structure in the slightest. No one said you can’t have expectations of women This sub says it all the time lol A woman’s- I want a man who will provide for me. Is not the same as a man’s- I want to intimate…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:55 PM

It’s not important to talk about the part women play- that’s why I say men are the issue here. Men are the ones who must take the largest steps in order to adjust their cultural outlooks. That's entirely arbitrary. Women as a group have done more of this work and had to do so while securing their release from essentially slavery by men. Last I checked nobody defended their slaves with their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:44 PM
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u/Mordagath why not try replying to this one, the comment that directly addresses the core point of your post? What's the matter, aren't you confident in the validity of your beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:46 PM
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In the body of the post you exclusively talk about the failures and injustices of men as though they occur in a vacuum. The body of the post provided nothing more than a 1 dimensional perspective which blames men for all the problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:42 PM
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"Men are the issue" is an explicit accusation that men are "the" causal source of these problems. So if you intended to write something other than that, yes your reading comprehension is very poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:39 PM
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That's another lie, he did not write that either. You are really bad at honesty huh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:15 PM
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, I was more referring to you insinating women are naturally dishonest, again, completely unsubstantiated. That's a lie, they never wrote that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:49 PM
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Good thing I don’t put the blame solely on men. Your title shows this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:59 PM
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Becoming a better person means adapting to society. Lol, this is totalitarian logic. Becoming a better person means adapting society to serve one's needs, not vice versa. The only need society has is to serve human needs. If you are unable to find someone to date because of modern sexual morality then you are the one with the issue not society. No it is both, duh. Obviously. Society depends on taxpayers and there is only one way to get those, every failure to reproduce is a failure to perpetuate…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:55 PM
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The title of your post blames men for the baggage of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:49 PM
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the claim that any man who holds a different view only does so hoping to get laid This is not just any different view. This is a position which is entirely defined by its attempts to appeal to a misandristic framing of men that is popular among feminist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:37 PM
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I have pretty immense sympathy for everything you’ve said. Given the title and content of your post this must be a lie. It’s hard to confront the expectations put upon us as men. It is not just hard, it is impossible because those expectations contradict each other. I believe that assistance in this from women is essential in the form of examining what expectations are reasonable None of them are. If we are not allowed to have expectations of women without being accused of being controlling and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:30 PM
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No it is a blatant lie, as is your claim here. Now you're just being obtuse since you don't have any substance to back up any of this self flagellating crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:52 PM
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You said the issue was men. You said the majority of men hold inherently sexist beliefs. You have yet to show any evidence or coherent hypothesis as to why this must be the case, and when asked you cited Manosphere content as though it is representative of current day men's beliefs and values despite how only a hyperminority of men are even aware of the word "manosphere" let alone know what it means. You said the commodification of sex and the sexes is sexist and this is true, but you have faile…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:49 PM
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That's monumentally hubristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:37 PM

No, it tells you that I can put on a performance without being attracted. But your insistence that you know my mind and preferences better than I do tells me your grasp on autonomy is tenuous at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:32 PM

? "Work with it" implies that I am not attracted but can put on a performance
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:12 PM
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No the belief that men are inherently sexist is sexism. That is also sexist. I am saying that the separate and distinct belief that either gender is more sexist than the other ends up supporting the structure of sexual hierarchy more than it could ever subvert it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:11 PM
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Manosphere is basically irrelevant. If you want to tie yourself in knots over shit 99% of men have never heard of nor agree with before as though you are grappling with some core conflict of modern male identity then you should know that is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:56 PM
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So when my dad took me and my bros to the commissary and put Dark Side of the Moon on the car's stereo, that was coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:54 PM

Just because I can work with it does not mean I want to put in the work! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:52 PM
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If women aren't going to help us out of our gender roles why should men help women? Sexist. Either your independence is equal or it is full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:14 PM
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Lol cop out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:13 PM
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No one expects that. Really would just be happy if the self haters like you kept to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:12 PM
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The majority of men hold inherently sexist beliefs, The belief that men specifically are more sexist is itself a sexist belief. It's also invariably projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:08 PM

I can work with everything but the first one individually💪
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:57 PM

He probably finds me a huge turn off too!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:56 PM

No, it is very believable that your whiny victim complex is insufferable. The fact that men endure abuse and talk about it does not make you a victim. Toughen up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:30 PM

No I did not. They were two separate items in a list. So in addition to being a liar you're also illiterate, two things only you can take accountability for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:28 PM
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Notice that rejection and abuse are separate things guys have to contend with. For example this thing you are doing when you try to speak for me? That is objectifying, and it is an indication you are abusive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:33 PM
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Getting rejected by women sexually isnt abuse Good thing I did not say it is. Men are not victims because women wont sleep with them. Another irrelevant quip, I never said otherwise. Try to stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:31 PM
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Why? For one, I might be ace but I have eyes, dude. I can appreciate when someone looks good. Which is irrelevant, sexual attraction is not reducible to looks. But also, my friends who are in relationships aren't ace. We do talk to each other. You cannot communicate an experience you lack the sensory data to experience. All you will ever have is an abstract description of what love can feel like to some people, at best. An asexual person by definition can't know what it is like to experience sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:06 PM
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I'm asexual, Oh. So it is literally impossible for you to get it. Ok, next time this pops up lead with this fact and everyone will understand that it is pointless to try to explain any of this to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:02 PM
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This just sounds like "nice guy" rhetoric to me. Because the only way you can acknowledge men's objectification is by objectifying us further in response. We know. The women didn't stop looking for people they're into... they just started getting more serious about commitment. Meaning: they learned that their feelings of attraction are not the best way to find a responsible caretaker and that they need to prioritize the characteristics that make a man responsible. This is just rehashing what we …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:54 PM
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Isn't that an assumption, though? It is an informed conclusion made from experience. The very fact that she makes these comparisons at all is proof she only cares about what he provides. If she actually felt unbearably attracted to him, this comparison would never have been made at all. You're operating on the logic that women only see a stable future with guys they're not passionate about, which seems like a really cynical way to live. You act like men come out of the first stage of puberty thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:45 PM
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Her who? I was talking about the imminent peril wealth inequality has forced upon the entire species and why that alters the character of the wealthy. Sorry you got rejected I guess? Insane. Project your control obsession all you like, you can't make worthwhile people like you because you are not up to their standards and you have zero intention of changing. 🤷‍♂️ Just like the wealthy parasites who can use their unjustifiable assets to force the species into misery and extinction without ever ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:45 PM
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That guy does not care about your opinion and is happier for it. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:09 PM
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A productive conversation is one wherein the participants successfully devise a scheme to humiliate and destroy a wealthy parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:05 PM
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It’s just a fact, and there isn’t anything which needs to be done about it. Just like people who are born into wealth No, something needs to be done about wealth. I guess you are in favor of the 65-70,000 deaths due to lack of medical insurance that happen every year in America. Another reason to take your 'advice' and dump it all in the trash. Some lives are easier than others. Some people are scumbags who would do nothing but measurably and permanently improve the lives of everyone else on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:04 PM
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Is it possible you are waiting for a reward? Do you say things at people because you expect some positive feedback? "Kill your hope" Jfc sharp this is... tantamount to sabotage. The lack of gains is not a consequence of expecting gains, it is a consequence of not facing the pain that actually makes gains. I feel that making pleasant noises and being conscious of your effect on others is good practice Well, that's what trusting feelings over critically analyzed experience gets. Men need to be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:51 PM
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It builds confidence at small talk sure. If that's all you're trying to do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:09 PM
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This is true, but it’s also something which can be unraveled with a bit of practice Lol ok, let's see what specifically is being practiced Practice small talk when running errands. Learn how to make pleasant noises at others. Wish clerks and servers a good day. Ok yeah, this is why most men quickly learn to stop coming to women for dating advice. Confidence is won, not practiced. You can't 'fake it til you make it' this, that is how people build a fragile ego instead of real confidence. Real ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:07 PM
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Men find insecurity and dependence endearing because it arouses their protective instinct No we don't lol. Nobody wants to be a parent to their partner, ladybabies are just as unattractive as their male counterparts. It's just that some men are desperate and willing to tolerate too much. If she’s needy and clingy and helpless, she’s going to rely on him for everything instead of getting attention from other men. Cheaters can be clingy too lol, this is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:17 PM
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Stop listening to men’s advice on how to attract women, Lol, no. it’s designed to keep the crabs in the bucket because the crabs pay grifter bills. All the most effective dating advice I got was free and from men. Admittedly a lesbian taught me how to eat pussy but that's not really dating advice. If and only if you plan to date tradcon women, employ stoicism Actual stoicism is little more than emotional self maintenance. It still impresses conservatives but so does jangling keys so who cares. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:15 PM

It sounds more like extreme paranoia and fear than misandry Still misandry. Extreme paranoia and fear towards men is a symptom of misandry for the same reasons the same feelings towards women is misogyny for the same reasons the same feelings towards black people is racism. Sorry you're not flawless. I know I'll sound like a broken record but the "small minority only 1%" thing is bullshit. No I know what a broken record sounds like and it isn't this. This sounds like degrading hate by category w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:42 AM
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You want to make a wager on that? I'm not a betting man but yeah. This would just involve you giving me money for being correct. I can figure out a way to prove you wrong there lol I'm sure it's been done many times. It hasn't. The inability to get a date itself is a signifier of social incompetence. Betting on this is basically betting that men cannot catch themselves in a Catch 22 by allowing their visible appearance and conduct to close off social opportunities. Men absolutely can do that, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:18 PM
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It is, you just don't like the answer. Nobody needs to date a person even once to get a good idea of how socially competent they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:30 PM
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Lol, no it doesn't. They can just observe using this handy dandy new tool. You might have heard of them, they're called eyes and ears. Look em up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:11 PM
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Six days ago you posted about how watching the deaths of other human beings feels therapeautic to you. When you accuse men of being unable to form friendships, consider the fact that the overwhelmingly vast majority of both genders experience the deaths of other human beings as sad at bare minimum. More often than not humans find the deaths of other humans traumatizing to witness. You on the other hand called the experience of viewing the deaths of real people (including a man flayed to death in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:09 PM
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?? Global male height average is 5'7"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:59 PM

If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? Lol @ women always conflating men seeing something as not a disqualifier or obstacle to love as "devaluing". Never stops being funny. The value is right in front of you ladies, and some of you are determined to do anything but see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:47 AM

Not a good sign when you can't get through a dialogue without your comments getting deleted. 😘💪🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:20 AM
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You keep on coming back to the shooting gallery hon, but at least this is finally getting funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:10 AM
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No, because you are derailing and do not deserve an answer. Gonna report you for harrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:08 AM
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She didn't like cross dressing and said that Yeah, I know. I don't like crossdressing either and could never pass as a woman, but if I did both for 18 months I have no doubt in my mind that I would be swamped in gender dysphoria because that would challenge everything I believe which contributes to my sense of my own appearance as a man. There's nothing to suggest that she was unhappy with being a woman, That is not what gender dysphoria necessarily is. It can also arise from feeling alienated f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:25 PM
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Is a political stance Personal politics are downstream of a person's psychology, not vice versa. I'm sure she felt honest, but psychological denial is about trauma tolerance not honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:16 PM
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It is, denial does not change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:14 PM

She never claimed to have gender dysphoria A TERF would rather die than admit that, are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:58 PM
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Yeah being a TERF and crossdressing for a year or more would put most people in a padded cell. What isn't clicking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:56 PM
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All this means is that women actually get help when they seek it and men don't. That's the factor that explains every data point discrepancy. Women attempt more but with 'methods' that are more prone to failure than success: because they actually get help when they commit actions that are cries for help. The success of other women seeking help this way prompts more to take the step as well. Women are diagnosed more: because they actually grt help when they do so. being diagnosed mean they're see…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:52 PM
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If you had made a sentence worth reading, that is not a lie, I would have had no issue. Speaking as the authority on the meaning and intent of another's words is a lie. Identifying general trends between behaviors and perspectives is not a claim that any behavior necessitates any perspective. You are not owed a slackjawed audience of passive lie swallowers. The fact that you want that at all is odious enough. I don't like thought-controllers on principle, I cannot concieve of a lower nadir of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:41 PM
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TLDR. Also do not care about the opinion of someone trying to speak for me. Not interested in continuing your pointless lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:22 AM
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Because I do not respect you or your question. You are derailing and you are not owed even my contempt. Take your entitled ass to someone who gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:20 AM
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Yep, when our expectations fail to prepare us for reality they also prepare us to be exploited by the more ruthless and observant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:06 PM
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In humans, our most dangerous natural predator is other humans and we also have built-in instincts that are there to protect us from other humans. Those instincts evolved in social groups of 150 members or less for the overwelmingly vast majority of the time that contributed to those instincts. The notion that there is a perfect correlation between the impulses which enabled survival in a tribal setting and which enable success in the modern setting is just flagrant hubris. If that were true, tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:03 PM
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This is complete horseshit What a fascinating reflection of the contents of your skull, but it doesn't pass muster as a coherent point. Misandry is just a term predatory men use to shame women from acting in their own self-defense Pffft, lol, just a "nuh-uh, you" but even more bitter and depressed. Misandry is the business model of the private prison industry, the recruitment pitch for the military, the central operating thesis of capitalism, and (not coincidentally) the only thing feminism offe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:13 PM

🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:58 PM
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I just want to say that women really aren't as afraid/cautious of men as neurotic women on reddit claim. Oh totally. It's fairly obvious what kind of audience you can expect on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:39 PM
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Every 14 year old has read ol' Freddy talk about his deep hole, no one is impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:04 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:03 PM
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Disagree Not an argument. this feels like just a big elaborate way to say "give more men some chance instead of being so closed off to all of them" Ad hominem, still not a valid argument. No woman is ever misandrist or cautious for no reason. Irrelevant to the subject of the post. Try to respond to the post instead of your projections next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:03 PM
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You clearly think they are because you married one. Have yet to see you post a single good faith comment. Just gonna block and lose nothing of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:54 PM
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Funny then how lots of prey animals in the wild are instinctually inclined towards over-reacting to potentially threatening stimuli. It’s almost like that’s literally adaptive behavior in the presence of predators And it is behavior which is effective at defending against interspecies predation. It does not seem as well suited for defending against social/sexual predators who belong to the same species.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:52 PM
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Perhaps, but brevity is not one of my virtues. It's just a post, I'm not terribly worried about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:46 PM
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This is managable for me. Sorry I couldn't dumb it down further.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:21 PM
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That's literally what modern crime statistics data shows 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:20 PM
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What are the negative consequences of refusing to accede to the attention demands of strangers? Figure it out as I ignore you. Doesn’t it lower a woman’s sexual market value to give attention to men? Lol, no. Hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:44 PM
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Tbh Eulen you strike me as white pilled. Maybe a cyan?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:31 PM
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Yes. That makes them inconsistent. Good, we are making progress: feminism is inconsistent. You're that close to get my point but i feel like you're playing the dumbest by always ignoring the elephant in the room which is consistency. I'm not ignoring it. I am saying the feminist movement does not qualify as ideologically consistent. It is closer to a brand than an ideology than most political ideologies. Even 'leftists' are more ideologically rigorous than run of the mill self identified feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:27 PM
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There are no negative consequences to refusing to acknowledge strangers who demand your time. There absolutely are lol, you are just blind to them. It’s a false argument to equate this with misandry I never did equate it to misandry, you did. Because you are derailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:17 PM
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Here is my response: The anti-racist movement is full of racists. Which will actually cure the racism problem: pretending those racists are not in the movement (your strategy), or admitting they are and something must be done to eject them (my strategy)?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:05 PM
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I'm talking about the negative consequences of misandry to the misandrist, not to men. You coming here and trying to derail with your projection that I am talking about how men are harmed, when I am not, is indeed your projection. It remains off topic, derailing, and entirely in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:02 PM
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You're the one talking about misandrists. So? Are you capable of making a coherent thought? I'm just pointing out how a misandrist would handle the situation. Nah, just a hyperminority of misandrists. I think you're projecting the average man's desperation to get dates and sex Nah, I have a little too much of both at the moment. I think you're not going to add anything of value to this post so I'm just going to ignore you going forward. Have fun avoiding men while also trying to troll them, you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:31 PM
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Idc. Lmk when you want to discuss my post, I didn't write it to parse your projections.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:28 PM
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It's more than a bit lmao, it is exactly the same! You get it lol 🖤💪
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:27 PM
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You probably believe black people do the majority of the crime in America because the police are invariably honest and infallible. You're basically Ben Shapiro but more in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:26 PM
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Well I still appreciate it!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:25 PM
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You aren't providing any criticism lol, just hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:24 PM
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You are conflating experience with men with a positive view of them and a healthy relationship with them. No I'm not. What an absurd claim lol I'm going to dismiss your attempts to speak for me, you have done nothing but demonstrate you are not up to the task. You could just as easily make the argument But I didn't. Stay on topic. And there is no logical reason you’ve given as to why Refer to the puzzle and hydraulic press analogy until you realize I have given a logical reason. You say it’s due…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:22 PM
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I don't think proving a negative is possible, much less an opportunity. I think you are too addled by hatred to be of any value in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:11 PM
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I don't. Disrespect is a form of cruelty, and cruelty is the watermark of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:10 PM
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What they do is mostly subconsciously compare the potential partners they meet with what was modeled for them in their childhood. If healthy and caring was modeled, they feel comfortable and attracted to it. If unhealthy and abusive was modeled, they feel comfortable and attracted to it. Was hoping someone would bring this up, because I think there is an important element of projection in all of this. Those who are raised under abusive role models usually learn by adulthood that those behaviors …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:09 PM
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I believe it, I've had to pull that type of lady out of my friend's lives like ticks off a dog's back all my life. In fact this was the strategy of the woman who tried to kill me for rejecting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:43 PM
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The private prison industry is an example of systemic misandry. So is the military. So is the capitalist culture of reducing a man to his networth. The fact that you cannot identify these systemic gender targeting injustices simply because the victims are men? Also misandry that is systemically conditioned into us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:38 PM
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She is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:36 PM
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That’s an issue I rarely hear about, That would be because whenever men complain about it women call us gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:36 PM
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Can you tell me in what way "misandry" hurts men? Yes, I can. You cannot? I'm asking in good faith. I find that impossible to believe. Why even ask this question in the first place? Whether misandry hurts men and how is not a part of my post. It seems ironic and revealing that you're hanging yourself on this irrelevant hathook. Address the content of the post or I will just assume you are deliberately derailing. extremely small sect of women It's practically all women. Exceptions are few, and ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:34 PM
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Essentially, “if some women are going to accuse predatory men of being exactly that, then we'll have no choice but to prove them right,” I didn't write any of that shit. Putting it in quotes is a lie. This is just a refusal to engage with the post honestly. When we lived in a culture that previously benefited men How were men benefited by being the only ones who were used as human test subjects and living sandbags? The world and its history are infinitely more complex than your black and white o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:21 PM
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For your first point, I think women can probably tell within a few hours (sometimes minutes) of conversation if a guy is a danger to them. Lol. Sorry I have seen too much to take this seriously. You are assuming that women do not do this, No, I am not. Pretty bad analysis if you have to project assumptions I haven't made. Strike two. Those toxic red flags apply across all genders and across a wide range of mental illnesses. Of course, that's why searching for men instead of for actual toxicity i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:40 AM
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No. That's a bizarrely hostile interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:37 AM
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I can tell you are consistently biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:36 AM
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That's a flimsy analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:10 AM
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You're a misandrist, this whole conversation is one big blind spot for you. The vast majority of men are not predators, and the more men you have in your circle the more that group should statistically resemble the wider population. You know, unless you are really bad at evaluating men's character. Mileage always varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:10 AM
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Nah, women rapists are far more common than crime statistics would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:07 AM
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Lol, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:06 AM
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Lady I have family from Gadsden AL. I know way too many racists. My great-great+grandparents and their siblings used to shoot at black people from the porch for fun. That only validates everything I said about fear and hatred making people dumber and more liable. If men really want to be victims, we can make that happen for you lol Misandry is emotionally abusive, I don't need further demonstration. Also not impressed by what appears to be a threat, so enjoy the report.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:10 PM
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Hopefully it will serve as a suitable bridge for the trolls to hide beneath
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:05 PM
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By working together with trusted contacts to establish a real record of relationships and behaviors. You know. Actually investigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:05 PM
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That's just demanding men prove a negative. They can't show otherwise until after they are dead, and even then one could always tell themselves "they just hid the evidence well enough". So, still impractical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:03 PM
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Correct in that it about misogynistic men. But also, so? Misogyny = mentioned. To more thoroughly answer your original question, hatred by category is a very specific state of mind that causes the brain to literally ignore important details which separate individuals from each other in the hated category. Just refer to any study proving people in cultures tainted by racism perceive little difference between black individuals, or have a lot of difficulty seeing their real age. Hatred is literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:01 PM
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I don't claim to know any reasons or motivations, I am only presenting my analysis of misandry as a predator defense strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:55 PM
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I did mention misogyny. Did you read through the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:54 PM
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No, that's still misandry. The attractive men just get the 'benevolent sexism' treatment. As an attractive guy who has made more than my fair share of mistakes, it is definitely still a form of bigotry that creates abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:53 PM
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it can be a chicken and the egg situation. Totally agreed, thankful you brought this up. but it’s unfortunately true for all people in general, that facing abuse can put you at higher risk of more abuse, which obviously gives you a more negative view of others. Exactly. I think personal views of the potential victim are kind of irrelevant. I think it depends on the predator and target and the circumstances around both. I am definitely not saying misandry is the only, primary, or even secondarily…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:51 PM
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It's both. There's no real contradiction here, you are talking about two different stages of a woman qualifying a man as more or less safe or dangerous. It's like asking "does the shuttle use the primary thrusters, or secondary thrusters, to achieve orbit?". It's both. Not sure why you thought these are opposed in the first place tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:48 PM
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Why are you assuming the predator is a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:44 PM
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This is just telling on your bias dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:24 PM
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Nope. We made the Nazis and clanners shut up. Lol then why are they still around? Nazis and confederates both lost their respective war, only to be allowed to win the subsequent peace. Shutting up the Nazis was prevented by Operation Paperclip, among others. Do your homework better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:13 PM
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I haven't. Men are very direct when they hit on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:06 PM
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Yes but they don’t know that 🙄 If you think a guy asking for directions is secretly trying to fuck you, you are the problem. If there is literally zero space in your mind for the possibility that men are interacting with you without any sexual intent at all, that is prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:04 PM
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I don’t think it’s fair to compare men cold approaching other men to men cold approaching women Asking for directions is not a 'cold open'. Tf is wrong with people these days. One clearly has different goals and intentions than the other. No they don't. Asking for directions has the same goal and intention no matter the sex of who is asked. This is objectifying men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:40 PM
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You're doing the dehumanizing Nothing dehumanizing about recognizing men's sexuality. Men aren't beasts driven by natural urges. I didn't say men are beasts. We are all driven by natural urges though, one of which is sex. Another is a sense of social belonging. Another is emotional intimacy. Another is material necessity. One of which is fear. Ignoring, downplaying, or demonizing any of those drives ultimately is a form of objectification. Pul yourself together ? I'm as cohesive as a solved jigs…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:38 PM
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Comparing human unlimited capabilities Humans are mortal, fragile, and finite. Nothing about us is unlimited, not even our capacity for self delusion. isn’t “hate speech” It literally is, and your approval is not required. if anything that should make you reflect I don't know what it is like to be so weak minded that anything anyone says makes me do anything, so I can't relate to you. If you are surprised your transparently self excusing rationalizations don't influence me beyond inspiring me to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:52 PM
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I'm not denying that. You are shaming men for being born with a sex drive. We can all read you doing it. Why lie? I'm denying that women should be obligated to give sex or be accused of being inhumane. No one here said that. Tell it to someone who did. That is dehumanising I agree, that is why no one in this thread is advocating for it. Take your derailing sexual fantasies elsewhere. What if gay guys stared calling straight men inhumane for not sleeping with them? I sincerely think you need to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:48 PM
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1: humans are also animal, comparing an animal to other animals isn’t “dehumanizing”. Wrong, it is literally how dehumanizing is defined. It is a denial of moral agency to a human being by reducing them to an animal. It is a form of objectification, and it is invariably emotionally and socially abusive. 2: when your species are some of the most dangerous animals on earth, comparing human to a worm is more degrading to a worm that it is to a human I'm not impressed by self hatred, but rather bore…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:42 PM
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Idk dude, I get approached often enough that I stopped approaching a decade ago. What men need to understand is that a strategy contigent on others approaching you is not a PASSIVE strategy, it is INDIRECT. It takes work in other words. Work to be attractive. Work to be approachable (not the same as attractive). Work to find the environment that matches your personality and interests. Work to find the people worth building anything with. Work to catch their attention, send all the right signals,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:30 PM
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Humans are sexual organisms. It's pretty sad to live in denial of that, as well as dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:08 PM
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That's dumb, not like women ever leave us alone. Might as well expect the sun to go out, it will happen eventually but not in our lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:08 PM
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If she can't advocate for her own pleasure that's her fault. Expecting men to be mind readers is just setting them both up for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:04 PM

It is literal dehumanization according to every definition of the term. Maybe I should compare you to animals until you get it, worm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:03 PM
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I don't. I would have said that if I did. I was simply saying women are not united in the fight for women's rights, so why expect men to achieve unity for a cause outside our interests when you cannot achieve unity for the cause despite it being aligned with women's interests. It's a double standard that makes your cause seem less coherent and more hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:02 PM
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It's also how women responded. Half of them vote GOP too. Unite your own house before you shit outside it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:38 PM
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Because their first reflex is to try to dehumanize men who demand more humane treatment for men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:34 PM
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It is dehumanizing by every definition of the term. It is hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:33 PM
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I'm sorry you didn't understand the man/bear debate, but it was actually about dehumanizing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:32 PM
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I am aware, that's why my principles haven't changed. I don't paint all women in the colors of the worst one I've met, I still believe true equality is the touchstone of a just civic structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:56 PM
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They don't even have to die. Just make up 50% of the workforces most prone to deaths by preventable accidents. Their presence alone would literally save tens of thousands of lives per decade as they force safety standards to comply with reality. I'd take that deal ffs. Just stop letting us die for literally their vanity's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:30 AM
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Honey… that’s because men are susceptible to brainwashing I'm not your honey. And everyone is susueptible to being influenced into doing self destructive things, in direct proportion to their belief in their own immunity. ;) The belief women are not is literally a symptom of brainwashing. Thanks for demonstrating. Subverting the value of the lives of others to make yourself feel better is a distinctly feminine habit, as you demonstrate as well. Highly socially corrosive, but what an oddity it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:26 AM
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We can agree the percentages vary, but the point remains that every time I have looked into this there are double digit percentages of women who cannot orgasm from penetration alone or who have never experienced an orgasm at all. Holding men responsible for a woman who only orgasms with other women is just blaming men for the existence of lesbians. I don't blame gay guys for how they can't get me off, because I am self aware enough to know whose responsibility my own nut is. Connection with a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:17 AM
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You mean the last straw? Cause I don't have time to rehash the rest. To make a long story short: when a woman I rejected tried to murder me in retaliation, the large majority of the people I networked with (in many cases for a decade or more) cut ties with me for pressing charges. Only a fraction of them reached out after they all realized what an intolerable menace she is. The rest never even tried to get my side of the story once. I don't call myself a feminist anymore. Not because I hold any …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:54 AM
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So do you only get involved for the approval of women? Not in the slightest, I just don't associate with those who emotionally abuse me. Do you? I feel sorry for you if so, but you really should stand up for yourself instead. No one will do it for you, and no one you want will fuck you for tolerating abuse. It is remarkably toxic of you to conflate intolerance for bullying as seeking women's approval. That is an obvious projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:59 PM
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Why fuck the man if he won’t give you an orgasm? About 30% of women never have orgasms. Are they just supposed to be celibate so YOU can feel like you are superior to men? Get over yourself and find some compassion for your fellow women. What’s the point? ? Connection, novelty, pleasure, escape from the drudgery of the day to day, romance... like if all you think sex with men is good for is orgasms that's remarkably sexist. Not a good look. Women can give themselves an orgasm just fine with a vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:55 PM
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Why don’t men want to get involved? Who says we don't? Every time I did though there was invariably some number of women there to remind me I am irrelevant, or I am subhuman, or I should be thankful I am merely loathed and tolerated. Maybe if being involved wasn't a constant montage of emotional abuse (like the rest of our lives), more men would participate. I’m around athletic men often, and joining teams, rooting for teams, and laughing with a group is the norm. It is when the group does not h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:49 PM
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Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern women That's up to her. But in many, many cases a woman will not be satisfied no matter what the man does. Why even ask this question to begin with? Satisfaction is a moving target. If she wants to hurt her husband's feelings she can always compare him to her abusive high school boyfriend. So why give a fuck? I also think the notion women are pro-social is just a stereotype born of semantics. A man dying for the benefit of others see…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:43 PM
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To fuck, along with whatever else they agreed to do. Need any other 'mysteries' unraveled?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:40 PM
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Sex cannot simultaneously be a privilege for women while also having negative social and physical consequences Lol, non sequitor. "Being the president can't be a privilege because..." What advantages or benefits do women get out of having sex? Ask the women who are enjoying it. But in case you haven't yet: - social status - pleasure - connection with others - all the things men give and do in order to get laid What benefits do women get out of having easy access to sexual encounters or casual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:17 PM
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If you depend on another person's efforts to climax you're simply bad at sex according to the most basic indicator of skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:10 PM
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So... you hate men for having a sexual drive that attracts them to women? Ffs, no matter what men do top many women find some excuse to reduce us to nothing. This is just as counterproductive and silly as guys who hate women for prioritizing physical and emotional security. Might as well hate the sun for casting shadows. So exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:08 PM
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Found the misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:00 PM
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Depends on the relationship, but most men are employees. For many men, romance is a 2nd job they have to pay to participate in
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:58 PM

Men also label women who they find unattractive " creeps No, you have to be seen as unsafe to be a creep. The Kardashians are a family of creeps, for example. Has nothing to do with attractiveness. Women get told this fantasy that ALL WOMEN will call the police on a mid or medium ugly guy who approaches them. Not true. First of all, the police wouldnt respond to that And you know this cause you tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:27 PM
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I don't do either of those things and know no man who does. Again, Shake... YOU are the only one fantasizing about this scenario in this thread girl! This is all your projection 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:42 PM

I am 100% problem free lol, this is entertaining not problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:38 PM
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There is a massive difference between saying “no thank you” or swiping left on tinder and going on social media to write an essay about how single moms are alpha fucks and bring no value to their partners Sooo you're stalking these guys' social media? Once they say no why do you spend even one more second on them? Even if this actually happened, which is hard to believe, this isn't a guy turning away from his drink at a bar to scream you to tears. It is a post on social media, whether or not it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:34 PM
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YOU are the one fantasizing about it! Lmfao Also, the woman in that scenario is the one whose current ties to the man are defined by her using him to stroke her ego. She rejected him before, whatever who cares it is in the past so move on. But circling back around after he has put in the work to improve his life shows she never has nor will (literally) give a fuck about him. It's all about her and what she can get from him, not give to him. So why would he care? He made the gains he did in life …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:59 PM
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Is courtship just the initial approach to you? That's pretty sad. It should at least be an immersive mood that two people share and contribute to throughout the relationship. Doesn't have to be grand gestures and five figure vacations, just earnest effort to create bonding memories together. For me, her approach is my permission to court her. It is the green light that tells me my efforts will -at the bare minimum- not be wasted on an unwelcome offense. I operate this way not out of laziness but…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:52 PM
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Don't put your finger on the trigger if you aren't going to shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:36 PM
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This lady gets it. I think there is also a factor of women hyperfocusing on and catastrophizing rejection due to that male stereotype. So they can't accept that he wasn't in the mood, there has to have been something else wrong or he has to be some kind of monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:35 PM
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It's all just their projection lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:34 PM
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Nah. Just don't be a cruel cunt and you'll get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:33 PM
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Lol Been dating only women who approach for a decade now. Have a fiancé and a gf now. Never had an issue finding a partner after the first six months and word got around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:32 PM
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I literally only date women who approach and initiate. Have for a decade now. Changed everything for the better, the ones who wait to be approached are never worth the hassle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:27 PM
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Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:24 PM
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Men only exist to soothe her ego to her, so of course it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:24 PM
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It isn’t femcel spite Lol, yes it is. Men here get angry when single moms, fat women, or older women approach them. No, you just interpret rejection as anger to portray yourself as a victim. Which is behavior no one wants in a date. Some even have revenge stories about a girl from high school approaching them 10 years later when she’s post wall and them being like “well you didn’t date me in high school so BEAT IT!0 That's not 'revenge' lmao that is basic self respect. The guy knows you're only …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:22 PM
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Doesn't matter at all. The gender role that men must provide is intact despite that. OP herself admits that the lie that men prefer to approach is from FDS, and the whole premise of using that lie is to put pressure on men to fulfill the provider role. So you're just lying to men about men's own preferences and reasons for them, and apparently you think this has no impact on our opinion of your value as a partner. No wonder men steer clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:04 PM
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Have fun sorting through a population of 95%+ predators
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:50 PM
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It is only a power position for women because men are the ones saddled with the gender role of provider, leaving women free to exploit that role. A man waiting to be approached has just as much power as a man who approaches: absolutely none lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:47 PM
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This guy gets it. This is how women objectify men. It is FDS femcel spite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:45 PM
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This is honestly just femcel spite. Men are literally all over the internet asking women to approach, the widespread lying about men's own preferences is objectification in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:44 PM
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They routinely tell women to get degrees and level up in their careers + be financially independant Yeah, men don't care for that at all. In fact there is a growing trend for men to avoid women who highly prize these achievements. Do more research Your 'research' (read: doomscrolling through FDS content) was worse than doing nothing, it was counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:41 PM
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You get an ego boost if it's someone even moderately attractive. Great. I'm saying she'd have to be extraordinary to make you commit for life. Be. Fucking. For. Real. It does not matter how pretty she is, I don't think any man is just going to commit to sexual exclusivity with a woman he hasn't even dated once yet. Let alone commitment for life wtaf!! She could have a billion in cash and both sets of rings and all the wedding plans arranged and I'd bet +90% of men would still run for the hills (…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:37 PM
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The vast majority of men are turned off by the average woman approaching him. Lol No, women just tell themselves this as cope. If she's way out of his league he might throw her a few fucks,but the fact that she approached will always nag him. "If she's so desirable surely she could have waited for a man to approach" Lmao... Most men don't give a fuck about how 'desirable' someone is in the abstract hahahaha We only care if a woman is desirable to us individually, in that specific moment. Whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:44 PM
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Do you think having a discussion about the types of things you like, what you dont like, what you are open to and what are hard nos would have no positive benefit to normal people? ... do you actually think vanilla sexual relationships don't communicate about these things? Nobody needs to be introduced to roleplay or cnc concepts to have those discussions. I think the more folks try to 'normalize' something that is both by definition and in jubilant self aware spirit "abnormal", the more you inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:23 PM
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Are the practices in bdsm good at establishing and maintaining consent? Mileage may vary, but I think in general kinksters tend to be slightly better at consent than the mainstream population. More practice, more planning, more openness to constructive criticism. There are problematic elements, but what you are proposing isn't some kind of purge of the BDSM community's worst elements. There are aspects of this that would help non bdsm people and should be taught Such as? Would they ever use them…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:46 PM
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Why would he need to be responsible for these actions? He does not need it, your claim about him needs it. In order for your claim (that his criticism reflects more about him than about those he criticizes) to be true, he would have to be directly responsible for the choices he criticizes. I don't know how to explain this any more clearly lol, but the TLDR here is that you are displacing responsibility for American women's choices from those women onto him and anyone else who holds similar criti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:41 PM
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Idk I don't think that is necessary. Non-standard consent is a strongly self motivated niche interest, even curiousity about it in the abstract is very far from common. Active inquiries into how to express, ask for, or respect conditional/nonverbal/counter-intuitive forms of consent thus act as a form of social filter. More experienced kinksters use them to identify newer people who have done the emotional and intellectual work that makes them a safer and more fun playmate. Making a generalized …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:33 PM
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I didn't say he was responsible for anyone else. I know, you hid behind plausible deniability by making his criticism exclusively about him instead of what he criticizes. In order for that to make any sense he has to be responsible for women's actions, so you implicitly made their actions his responsibility even if you did not do so explicitly. idk how he thinks the can so easily distance himself from the other people in his country and their apparently appalling behaviour. It's very simple: "Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:01 PM
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You are all Americans. You have the same culture. Lmao, this is you admitting you don't know dick about American culture. American culture shifts and changes by zip code, brand preference, and yes sex and gender. American men are not responsible for the choices American women make, and their criticism of those ladies is reflective of those ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:57 PM
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He asks "So you want to have sex" and she responds "No", please tell me what you think he should do? Say "I was under the impression you wanted to have sex, thanks for clearly communicating with me." After that it depends on what he wants. If the guy wanted to have sex and is feeling too disappointed, annoyed, or antagonized to enjoy the evening he could say "I don't really like the mixed signals I am getting from you, I think I should head out". Then simply leave. If the guy didn't want to fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:55 PM
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Do you think feigning resistance or teasing your partner in these situations are always “stupid games?” Without prior communication about it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:53 PM
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No they arent Denial is the 1st stage of grief. They come from progressive countries where Their divorce rate exceeds even the US? Yeah, another reason why they can be dismissed from the conversation. It's clear you're just talking trash out of ignorance lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:05 PM
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This is your own culture ... no it isn't. American men are not responsible for American women's choices, values, or priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:39 PM
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Why is he responsible for how American women act? The way you displace women's accountability onto men is not reflecting well on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:38 PM
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I have a lot of friends from Europe (all around Europe) and they dont have a positive view on American men. They say they are lazy and entitled. As an American who fucked his way across Europe for most of a decade... lol "Hey, the nations who benefit from America's military protection think American men are lazy and entitled." Who cares. Doesn't keep them from fucking us. but I gotta say, they are demanding and their husbands are kinda whipped. All the more reason not to take them seriously, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:20 PM
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1 or 2 women doing this would be "meeting only shallow women." Dude if all you are doing with your life is hanging in the meat market and renting hoes you're going to only be around shallow women. Let's not pretend like there are not obvious signals to follow, if you want women of clsss and substance you know where to find them. You just don't think that game is easy enough, and now you are armpit deep in the consequences. ive had girlfriends of good friends of mine tell me they want me to fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:10 PM
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No, it is still simplistic and shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:44 AM
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No, you just hate women dude. Women want companionship too, and while it sucks you have only met shallow women that is your own selection bias and ultimately a reflection of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:40 AM
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Neither of those are benefits, and due to the financial risk of marraige it is debatable whether it is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:26 PM
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Meh, low effort copypasta rage bait. How boring. No wonder you mock men as virgins for disagreeing with you, you're not creative enough to do anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:14 PM
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"Of course men benefit from marraige. They get these things that they never needed marraige to get!" If marraiges guaranteed sex and kids that would be different, but they don't. Let's not play coy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:10 PM
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A nihilist has nothing to cry about, they're too busy denying their feelings to themselves. You seem jaded but who wouldn't be after what you have been through, and you still give a shit. Again, that is a victory 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:06 PM
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Virgin shaming isnt real. Lol, I've seen you call dudes virgins for disagreeing with you. I have never seen guys for insulted for being virgins unless they say something stupid or misogynistic. So it is real. Pack up the thread. In fact, I mainly see guys mock other guys for being virgins. Even then, it was movies like American Pie, where the focus is on a guy trying to get laid. "Guys do it too so it must be ok, I've seen it in movies!" From my experience, most people actually dont care and its…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:39 PM
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You feel that way cause it is broken. But that's ok, if you let it time will heal that too. Whether or not you ever fall in romantic love again, it's clear your ability to love yourself is not broken. In the face of what you have been through, that's a huge victory. It is also, for the record, completely understandable why your trust in women is where it is. That's a level of betrayal that is just... unimaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:26 PM
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You said straight women don't want other women to be hot. That is toxic. So is playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:32 PM
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That being in your presence is a chore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:32 PM
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I was where you are now about 8 years ago man. The aversion will endure for a while but it won't last forever. I feel like I should say it is important that you don't burn too many bridges. That was a big mistake of mine, not discerning between toxic people and people who just didn't live up to expectations. The ladies come and go, but I gave up on some guys who couldn't reach me through my pain and I regret it. Eventually I found a woman who refused to let me see her as just another woman, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:15 PM
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isn’t it interesting how men with attitude are viewed as an alpha boss, while women with attitude are seen as annoying bitches No. It is one of the most boring realities of gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:27 PM
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so there’s nothing to ‘deal with’ in the first place. That's an obvious lie, we can all see it lol Why do you guys have such a problem with admitting that people are often intimidated by confident women? Because it is a lie. There is a difference between intimidated and annoyed, and ignoring the difference is even more annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:25 PM
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Straight women don't want other women to look hot. How toxic, thank goodness my ladies are bi
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:18 AM
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Nothing I propose would eliminate the pain, but rather is meant to help manage and overcome the fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:06 PM
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Preventing the exploitation of others women They don't care about preventing men's exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:56 PM
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Bluepillers in general want men/males to live more morally virtuous lives. Nah, they want men to live subservient lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:56 PM
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Remove the paint from the "Mona Lisa" and it's just a blank canvas. That's because it is a painting and not an actual human face, fyi. Remove the makeup from a human face and you generally get an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:54 PM
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Wouldn't the argument be that women look better because they put in so much more effort No, not at all. The effort does not mean much to most men, it has more to do with competition between women. Most men are functionally blind to differences in make up, hairstyle, or clothing and accessory choices that women seem to take so much more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:52 PM

Yeah people are also forgetting the whole consent thing being the main reason verbal communication especially in a sexual context is better for men. I genuinely think it is kind of funny how many of them assume men can't read their body language, it is just a projection of their own lack of depth. Men can, even autistic men can. The problem is there is no difference in body language between "come fuck me" and "come fuck me so I can fuck up your life". Men demanding more assurance of safety and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:00 PM

Yeah, women apparently have the right to complain about men without it reflecting on them but whenever men do it must be because of some character flaw. 'Women Are Wonderful' effect in action, once you see it you cannot unsee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:56 PM

Bro seriously, are you on the spectrum? Are you capable of not being ableist? Women do like it when you're in a romantic situation and you "pick up" on their signals and just kiss them. I'm sure some women do, just like how some men like it when women 'pick up' on their signals and initiate sex on the first date with no strings attached. That does not change how most men don't like this behavior since it puts them in a position where they cannot feel safe or respected, where they feel like they …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:51 PM
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Well I never said he did me wrong That's generally what 'led me on' means, usually involving false promises or lying assurances of shared long term goals. I get the sense that miscommunication is a frequent problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:44 PM
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She doesn't have to be for him to date multiple people ethically. If you never got any claim for exclusivity then he did nothing wrong. If you did then you need to come to terms with the fact that one man does not represent all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:09 PM
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Man you sound like you wanna live a very loveless life I have a fiancé and a girlfriend, I have plenty of love. If you think those relationships are just me endlessly pouring labor into two women's lives with no reciprocation you cannot be more wrong. Relationships are sustained by being of benefit to the participants. Marraige alone or emotional bond alone is not a benefit, a person can marry or bond with a bully ffs. It is not a positive achievement on its own. Also single women demographic is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:06 PM

Sucks that you surround yourself with desperate liars, but people tend to attract the company that matches them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:28 PM
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I did. You are conflating complaints and advice seeking with entitlement. It is a common abuse tactic classless women use on men who stand up for themselves. I don't trust a misandrist to see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:27 PM
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A guy literally led me on and then sexted with another girl in a groupchat. So he's dating multiple people before going exclusive and you felt entitled to him. Boo hoo. You can be a creep for stalking strangers but not for stalking your parents What the absolute fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:23 PM
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No. Men do not benefit from modern marraige at all. Men do not benefit from emotional connection alone enough to compensate for the financial burden of caring for a woman and kids. That emotional connection between him and his wife cannot be maintained without routine sex anyway. Women are not entitled to relationships with men that do nothing but harm us. Men are the ones who determine whether women's contributions to our lives are sufficient, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:14 PM
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Why do men feel so entitled to women here They don't. I've been here for a while and most of the posts goes like You don't have to stay. Nothing you cited is an example of entitlement. I just can not believe that there are people who don't understand how to make women feel comfortable and then they cry about out standards being too high As a demisexual person who pretty much has now very limited interaction to the male population because I'm scared of having my boundaries over stepped. It's very…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:05 PM

Don't care, I'm not fucking anyone with the communication skills of a toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:29 PM
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Powered wigs don't work today, but they worked once upon a time They specifically 'worked' during a time when everyone was a drunken alcoholic by default, people owned other people as property, and the wig was an indicator of wealth instead of an enhancer of aesthetic. Because the men of that time did not need to impress women with their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:42 PM
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Agreed. It's astroturfing imho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:38 PM
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Men need to normalize makeup and cosmetics to better compete like women do No thanks. I am not a freak who needs to put powderized baby foreskins on my face to feel sexy. Women who use makeup tend to be less attractive to me than those who don't anyway. So... as far as I am concerned we should normalize the whole industry away. its pretty clear women with some makeup look a lot better than women without makeup Lol How much they paying you to say looking like a clown is sexier than looking normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:37 PM
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Never said it is perfect, just that you would not be alive without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:18 PM
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No, we lived short brutal and deeply tragic lives of constant fear and violence and suffering without it. Look up polio, small pox, and countless other diseases and maladies that run roughshod over humanity until the last century. Go back and tell a kid crippled before he could walk that he has a better life without modernity and the assets it introduced to the human experience. Fetishization of the past is just that: a fetish. There's nothing pleasant about the times before we learned how to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:17 PM
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Are you aware most humans that have lived, lived without those things? Are you aware some still do? I'm less impressed by that than I am by how almost 7% of the total number of human beings who have ever lived, are currently alive today. Sustained by modern infrastructure, made possible by the labor of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:03 PM
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You think it's sinking wealth and people's lives into monuments, They did not describe a single monument, but rather the vast infrastructure system you apparently take for granted. I think it's a community working together. That is what he described. I don't give a shit about building bigger and better, that in no way makes my life better The odds are that your life would not exist without generations of making the industrial revolution bigger and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:42 PM
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Polyamory is a thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:56 PM
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I have two partners, a fiance and a girlfriend. They both are happy to go as far as I like, because we built trust and respect out of our time together. This crap of "oh you are capable of untangling the knot of bs a woman just wrote, that must mean you can't get laid" is just you making up a fantasy to console yourself over the fact you cannot refute me. It's like watching someone do an endzone dance after scoring an own-goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:56 PM
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Neither of these things make any difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:51 PM
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I get a lot from non-verbal communication and find it more honest and accurate than verbal because it places less pressure No, it just displaces any pressure on you onto the man. It drastically increases the pressure on the man. Some men are desperate enough to not care, and life generally sucks for them. she's looking at you with longing/warmth and is really really close, probably wants a kiss, right? If it was after a good date then it was a good date because I already told her that relying on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:47 PM
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Non-verbal communication is communication Sure, it is still shitty communication though. No specificity, no assurance of actually conveying anything at all, no way of confirming the other person is even aware of the attempt. Relying on non-verbal is begging Murphy's Law to fuck your life up for men. Women who insist on it are not safe. If a woman is making eye contact with you and then your lips and getting really really close to you in a somewhat secluded area, she probably wants to kiss you Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:48 PM
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Because men cling to their masculinity for dear life in a way that women don't to their femininity. Mainly because it is associated with power and societal dominance. This is your projection of your own power obsession and rationalized by your hatred of men. The vast majority of men are just trying to make it to tomorrow. No one worships masculinity more than the manosphere and cries that society is "trying to steal" it. Feminism does, and feminism is far larger, and feminism worships a type of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:15 PM
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Feminism has lots of things to offer, such as the breaking of traditional gender roles *role. Just one, women's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 12:41 AM
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Feminism is anti patriarchy. The main engine of Patriarchy is heterosexuality, If it actually exists then its main engine is war. War is what kills off the surplus men and gives the survivors status and holdings. But feminism does not want to talk about that because it is an appendage of the war machine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 12:41 AM
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Huzzah!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:37 AM
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Peace is the most underrated and hardest thing to achieve, but once attained there is nothing quite like it. It is like what Da Vinci said about flying: "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, and there you will always long to return" Except there is no longing to return, since you carry it with you. For me, when I am most at peace, I only feel the desire to share it. 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:27 AM
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Hobbies and friends go a long way. For some of us they end up being the true love we were looking for all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:23 AM
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The system is the free market. Doesn't seem very free to me. How... exactly? How are the gender roles for men still enforced while the gender roles for women are jubilantly torn to shreds, without misandry playing a factor? The enforcement of gender roles on men which harm men qualifies as misandry, for the same reason the enforcement of roles that harm women qualifies as misogyny. In both cases the autonomous individual person is reduced to an object incapable of volition or moral agency, and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:11 AM
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Again, all I am saying is exposure therapy can help with the fear. It does not do anything for the pain, I'm sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:40 PM
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Possibly, sure. None of the folks I talked to mentioned that, but they wouldn't since I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:33 PM
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Most people's "interests and values" are fed to them by social media algorithms. This is just another example of the hubris the tech industry runs on imho. Algorithms can only work with the instinctual and cultural pressures they are programmed to recognize, which is work done by human beings using human interests and values. While it is fascinating to watch an ideology try to excise humanity from human technology, it's also uniquely alienating. Like an inverted uncanny valley, it all looks welc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:19 PM
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Yeah I would think that if you cannot cope with solitude you would be long gone by now. I do not believe the fear of solitude is the only obstacle to relationships for men, just a highly confounding obstacle for some men. Over a quarter century is a long time, have you at least come to terms with it or is it still an agony?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:02 PM
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It's almost like sapient creatures react to the success or failure rate of the institutions they created to serve their interests by engaging with or abstaining from them, or something!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:59 PM
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I don't have a fear of solitude. If true then the process I propose has little to nothing to teach you beyond the need to identify the fear that is limiting your options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:54 PM
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What does Σ have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:47 PM
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What is the longest period of time you have gone without pursuing romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:46 PM
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Lol dude if you think meeting someone once a week or once every 2 weeks is gonna keep you satiated for human contact, idk what to tell you man. We're not talking about human contact. You get human contact every day you avoid pissing your boss off at work. We're talking about scheduled social events, and just because one of my friends can only hang out on Thursdays does not mean I only have social time on Thursdays. What a weirdly antagonistic assumption. Do you not have friends who have kids or …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:45 PM
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Every person not suffering CTE or similar debilitating conditions should be capable of the self reflection required. It is not a great effort of thought, truly, if anything one's mind will have far less to do than it usually does. The only knowledge it requires is the same knowledge that has sustained the person thus far: the knowledge of reaching the next day. All I am advocating for is to overcome the fear which keeps men ignorant of the full spectrum of options available to him. So long as he…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:33 PM
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Loneliness is part of the world, and solitude part of the human experience. You are not going to grow by running from fear, but by confronting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:25 PM
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It's that I want one so badly and there's nothing to do to "earn" a relationship Correct, but there are things people can do to attract or repel a relationship. The cosmos' sense of irony is cruel, but that does not change how the single least attractive thing a person can do is express desperate desire for a relationship or general complaints about their life. Doesn't matter if they are man or woman, that behavior is anti-erotic and suffocating. If that behavior is enough for Robert Pattinson t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:21 PM
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I didn't call anyone a rapist No, you hid behind plausible deniability and implied that whether or not women call a man a rapist is entirely in the man's control - when it is not. This is you participating in the rape culture that victimizes men. Women rapists often use the threat of accusations against their male victims to assert control. Think about that the next time you tell a man a woman's lies about him being a rapist are his fault. Think long and hard. Then think about how any male survi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 10:01 PM
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To be fair I was mostly curious to see if this sub could handle it lol Mixed results but better than expected all in all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:43 PM
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You are not going to grow as a man secluding yourself from society. Incorrect. If a man's growth is limited by his fear of solitude, then he must seclude himself to grow. Getting into bad relationships is not the end of the world for men It might as well be for men who are more afraid of solitude than abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:41 PM
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All I said is that the divorce rate falling seems like a natural consequence of the marraige rate falling... because it is. In statistics if two data pools are causally connected such that B can only be a smaller number than A, if A reduces in number it is reasonable to expect B to decline too. I did not make any value assessment of the situation, in fact I deliberately tried to remain neutral. But let's explore the question "isn't that an improvement" a bit. Why would it follow that is an impro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:39 PM
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Confronting one's fear of solitude =/= acheiving enlightenment. It also does not have to be a lifelong commitment to stay in solitude. You're stretching my post past the limits of coherence. The unabomer thought humans were over socialized too I never said anyone is over socialized. Telling men to be asocial That is not what I am doing. isn't going to end with them dying quietly in a corner where they don't bother you. It's going to end with a bunch of sociopaths with no stake in society and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:28 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that what you posted in your OP is not actually what you live by 😮‍💨 No, that is not correct. What I live by is confronting the fears that control me, which is all I advocate for men desperate for companionship to do. I only specified that I had to overcome the opposite fear, the fear of connection, to explain why I cannot go through the exact same process of confronting the exact same fear because I don't really have that same fear. I am a recluse, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:16 PM
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People change over time, I never said the man has to stay alone forever. Only long enough to overcome his fear of solitude, which should change his outlook and choices for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:10 PM
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Yeah, you tend to get fewer divorces when marraige rates remain in decline for decades. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:08 PM
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🙄 oh that is bunk. The first time I read it because it was assigned to me, the second time I had to read it through because I was picking it apart to impress a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:07 PM
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Yep. The more men try to compete in a playing field built to make them fail the more we degrade ourselves. The only way out, is up. We have to reject that which degrades us and let the men who don't live the lives of abuse they accepted as examples of what we are leaving behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:05 PM
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To be frank I am very strongly of the opposite disposition from the men who need this advice most, which is probably why it is conceivable to me. Were I to follow my instincts I would live the life of a recluse. I am, and will forever be, an Outsider - it is a frame of perspective I cannot shed but I can compensate against it. I have always been too different to fit in without monumental effort, and most of my life I did not care to make the effort. Most of my life what was available to fit in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:57 PM
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Yeah, of course it is "fine" to socialize in those settings but the grocery store and public transit are not social settings To you. To many others these are their main or only places where they can reliably socialize outside of their family or work. Your sensibilities are not universal moral absolutes. I'm not saying you should make yourself uncomfortable or that you are obligated to do anything. But there is something wrong with telling people they are wrong for wanting or seeking social conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:16 PM
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It's equally impossible for every man to take my advice equally sincerely at the same time, so we are probably safe from that outcome anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:13 PM
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You get it. It's surprising how many are over thinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:12 PM
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Learning to live with yourself =/= ignoring intimacy. That's not what I am advocating for at all. I am also not saying this process should be permanent either, which would be truly self destructive. All I am saying is that too often I see men accept relationships or circumstances that are far worse than isolation out of fear of isolation. What I offered is an argument for the importance of overcoming that fear. That does not seem dystopian or resigned to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:11 PM
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For whatever it is worth, I am sorry for the hand you were dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:07 PM
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All I am advocating for is that men care about themselves and be more realistic about the harm they suffer when exposing themselves to a culture which does not respect them. Being a man who wants to make a big family is separate and distinct from being a man who conditions his happiness on whether or not he makes a family. You can pursue a goal without tying your sense of fulfillment or self-value to its success.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:58 PM
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I never said this is about self "improvement". This is just emotional self sufficiency.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:54 PM
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Communities depend on shared interests and values. All I am saying is men should be capable of withdrawing and reprioritizing themselves for the sake of shedding those who do not prioritize their welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:52 PM
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Is your friend with a wife and kids going to focus on his kids' success/happiness, his wife's success/happiness, and his job that provides for his family or his friend who spends all of his time alone? My friends (note the plural) know how to manage time well enough to be able to hang out weekly or bi-weekly despite marraige and kids and a job. Most of their wives encourage or insist on it. It's good for them. you are a minor priority in their life once they are married with kids. It's not neces…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:50 PM
2

So because I don't want to make friends or get into conversations in non-social settings like the grocery store, public transit etc., that makes me anti-social? All the settings you named are places where it is fine to socialize. You're not in court, you're not at work, there is no harm in simply talking with other people who are open to it. I feel like most people, men or women don't want to be approached by others in these settings. Idk, and neither do you. All I know is the people who do soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:44 PM
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Well, one of the downstream consequences of learning to accept and find peace in solitude is that it tends to make you more approachable. Yes it is hard. But if a man takes the time to build supportive friendships with other men, it's not as hard as going at it completely alone. All things in moderation, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:55 PM
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repressing your desires Not what I recommend or advise. Deciding a desire is not worth pursuit at the moment is not repression. embracing actual solitude will alter you in an irrevocable way Yeah, that is the point. If one is miserable, change is necessary to achieve happiness. If one is miserable because they do not know how to love themselves or be at peace with their solitude then changing into someone better by learning is a good idea. if you don't care about having a wife and kids, fine. bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:51 PM
3

Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:42 PM
4

I can relate. Do you need to feel like a pursuer to get into it though? If so, do you ever feel like the pursuit is... idk, patronizing? Like they're not really into it and only doing it because they expect you to expect them to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:41 PM
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I never loved Ayn Rand for a second of my life lol, The Fountainhead was as comically ridiculous at age 9 as it was at 29. Regardless of your sensibilities, there has been virtually zero progress at disentangling men from male gender roles for decades. One of those roles is the belief that a 'real man' is self sacrificing for the good of those around him specifically and society in general. This belief is fundamentally incompatible with a healthy outlook that is emotionally self sufficient since…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:37 PM
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convincing yourself that the grapes are sour and you don’t really want them. Not at all. It means learning basic logistical and emotinal self sufficiency, which is going to require accepting the fact that not everyone is capable of positively contributing to your life. men are who find the right grapes are the luckiest men alive. Some of them maybe. But I know a few of them who chalk none of their success up to luck, but rather to reorienting their goals away from the chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:31 PM
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Idc about "excellence" beyond how excellent it feels to be at peace with oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:28 PM
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Terrible advice if you want a wife and kids. I am posting about how single guys can make themselves happier. If they want a wife and kids then they have selected the path of suffering. People will not notice in your solitude and will move on from you entirely This is a highly underrated benefit of prioritizing yourself: losing shitty people who have no real connection to you anyway. I feel bad for people who take this advice to heart, Seems like a waste of your time imho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:27 PM
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Honestly I think people would take it less seriously if I did that. Over the years I have simply approached the men I see around me who are going through it the hardest and try to be a decent friend. If they decide to share their grievances about dating I dispassionately break down their circumstances into simplier pieces and reorient their focus back on themselves and their own health. I decide the effort was a success if the guy makes real changes to his weekly schedule, even if they are small…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:21 PM
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Not really. If they like people, focusing on themselves is how they avoid the worst and attract the best. If they don't, focusing on themselves is the only rational move anyway. In all cases if a man deprioritizes himself beneath his partner(s)/friends/job he is doing himself a disservice and misery will be his compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:10 PM
2

If a woman is pursuing that means she is defying the gender roles that objectify men, so that already is a sign that she is worth some consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:34 PM
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Ok? I'm not pro or against babies. I'm just against the current zeitgeist of omnipresent emnity against men and male sexuality, and I don't see a way out of the problem aside from men simply deprioritizing women off their to-do list until men are not taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:14 PM
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Idk, whenever I was outside the west everyone seemed very eager to talk with each other. They talked with me less so until I was less of a stranger, but every day in the marketplace or busstop or just on the street was a day surrounded by conversations and connections. Westerners seem so addicted to misery in comparison. It's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:10 PM
2

Every minute spent on them is a minute not spent on living a fulfilling life that makes you more attractive in turn. It sets people up for failure, they honestly should be criminalized
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:08 PM
2

Men shouldn't use them either, they're poison
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:51 PM
2

the best way to socialize is in situations where you have to get along with other people because it's advantageous. Situations such as: life? When is it ever advantageous not to get along with others? Again, this is borderline antisocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:50 PM
5

Then they can always uninstall the app. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:38 PM
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Men should just stop approaching outside of bars or clubs, if not everywhere. There's just no point anymore, if there ever was. They should curl iron or read a book or draw a picture they then throw in the trash, it is all a better use of time money and attention. Stop the cold openers. Stop the guessing games. Stop trying to build anything with people who see them as subhuman. Focus on building the life they want without women that don't want to add to that life, and if any lady is humble and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:37 PM
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This is borderline antisocial. What exactly is the horrible sin OP is doing, realizes is wrong, then refuses to change? Valuing human connection? Working to form human connections? He's not disrespecting anyone. He isn't ignoring clear indicators he isn't wanted. He is not even blaming women for being cautious or judging anyone. He's just saying it is hard, because it is. I don't see any reason to be so insulting to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:27 PM
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Nah, they're just liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:21 PM
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Maybe you should work on not reflexively calling people rapists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 12:00 PM
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If you want people to be better, make it worth it. If women want men to treat them better they can always pay it forward.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 11:55 AM
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if trump goes down their party will exactly be thoroughly humiliated and shattered. I'm not convinced. Their party leaders and voter base are a lot more aligned than the Dems, and in the two party system we have what matters is who becomes unelectable first. Losing Trump just means the GOP would have to pivot to another non-politician to weild as a figurehead/scapegoat, one which does not have Trump's problem of uniting opposition against him. Meanwhile Dems winning means four more years of clin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/24 11:45 PM
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