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Consider men who don't like fatties, They're not shaming em (that's mean tbh). They just don't like dating fat women. The people who don't like fatties don't have some bizarro ideas about "food being more than just food" The fatty has a "relationship" with food that makes her fat, perhaps. But it's being fat that goes against preferences of other people, "relationship with food" doesn't really factor into it, short of obvious projection ("fatty may have weird relationship with food -> ergo it mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:17 PM
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Gradients don't cross categories. Is there someones agency violated or not, are you reaping what you sow or are you not. Yes, a moron may claim it's all just a gradient between coercion and a sucker having second thoughts after being led on by their own greed. That there's no distinction in meaning, only in intensity, there's no line where agency disappears. I wonder for what purpose they'd make such an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:50 AM
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“Sex is more than just sex” Is this "if you don't agree with me being a whore, you're mentally ill"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:59 AM
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That's too much of sorry excuse for fraud. It's true theres no SEC for sex work though. It's seedy bussiness, so don't be a chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:17 PM
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Too many words. Both sexes can be stereotyped, women are just easier to stereotype. Women attempting to stereotype men often amounts to projection ("I'm the unique snowflake, while men are all the same").
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:18 PM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=golden+pussy+syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:31 PM
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No wonder you think it's pretending to be dumb It often boils down to that. That is, pretending you don't see something so as to not rock the boat, get along and accomodate feelings of others. You go along with the social fiction and pretend the emperor is not naked to be "emotionally intelligent". This is something a lot of people on the spectrum struggle with, "the emperor is naked, why should I pretend he isn't, this doesn't make any sense REEEEEEE".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:55 PM
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Though we're also seeing some major churn in what skills people are looking for. Niches are generally doing fine. It's the mainstream email jobs that are incredibly contested (and more recently this started catching up to generic IT keyboard touching as well, covid boom-bust just exacerbated it).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:58 AM
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It feels like we’re all fighting for a small portion of high paying jobs that really still don’t keep up with cost of living. People don't want to hear it, but when recruiter tells you you're overqualified, they're not lying. Half of people with office job degrees never work an office job they're qualified for, third of em work low skilled jobs. And this is not just basket weaving gender studies degrees, it's across the board including a lot of STEM. Too many people, not enough seats, and its be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:40 AM
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In terms of influence, it's the Megalian crowd in the 2010s. 4B is just later rebrand, long after the gender war online peaked. They've moved more of their gender war to popular culture, overall the whole timeline is shifted like 5 years earlier than western happenings. And again, much more vitriolic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:11 AM
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I'd say it's people opting out of a game if the odds of a positive outcome aren't that good. It's voluntary on one hand, on another hand the game being "rigged" motivated that choice. So there's definitely sentiment that the game should be destroyed. if men don’t get government girlfriends they will become roving gangs of pillaging rapists That's much further on the timeline, when the west actually falls, per chud prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:12 AM
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4B wasn't ever relevant in the west, I don't see why both femcels/incels are obsessed with it on here. You're not in korea, and their gender war is very much something else (and much more brutal to be fair). the birth rates in South Korea are actually rising now This is more of a covid rebound (during covid most couples delayed having a second kid, producing TFR bottom). It's not expected to really surpass pre-covid rates, but hopefuly it should go back to the 0.9 or so long term baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:06 AM
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Does this mean there's more choice than say, 10 years ago? What changed? This whole "women can at last choose" argument is so weird, becaues this would hold water maybe 30-40 years ago when the "more choice" was rather sudden. But what explains the trend of past decade? I don't see anything in that period that would "increase choice", yet women are increasingly opting for less relationships through that period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:52 AM
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Better analogy is employer vs job applicant. To candidates (men) it may seem employers have pick of the litter, but in reality employer (women) has to wade through piles of crap to find someone who's at least somewhat qualified (and doesn't ask for too much money, and doesn't have 3 other jobs on the side). Who "has it better" comparison is moot, it's too much of apple and orange comparison. The employer still wants to hire somebody whos not completely useless, but has their own set of problems …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:37 AM
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The idea that women are living their best lives because there’s no men left? I grant you the writeup on the wiki isn't very good. Either way: daily motion The Outer Limits S04E13 Lithia Or read spoilers: Without men, they're stuck in stone age. The peace is touted as advantage by the women, but it also comes at a cost of halting all progress. The idea that they tried a bunch of times to rehabilitate unfrozen men They did it because the elder council woman recognized without men, they'll be stuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:34 PM
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Now you got me curious, what exactly is coming across as feminist (or performative feminist) there?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:54 PM
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Thinking this represents trans coded opinion in any shape or form is just demented.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:50 PM
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A lot of men and even some nations don't have this by default which means it's a learned thing. You can socialize men to limit the bias which is indeed what ultra-conservative societies historically did. Notice that such cultures explicitly recognize women having this sort of "siren call", and religion/whatever teaches that you shouldn't succumb to it. Lizard brain says to trust the crocodile tears, prefrontal cortex tells you that its just satan speaking through the woman. There's other sex spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:26 PM
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Also, "women are wonderful" is enforced by both men and women in the most diverse way possible. Yeah, it's inherent bias (sympathy gap) towards women, from everyone. Both males and female judges exhibit similar bias of women are wonderful. Also, "women are wonderful" is enforced by both men and women in the most diverse way possible. Idk, while male feminist/simp types are more explicit like this, I think the bias is present regardless of how people rationalize it. There's flip coins to it also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:48 PM
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Keeping other men in check (le patriarchy) so that we can even have a society, and not a violent jungle, or longhouses stuck in stone age. There's excellent The Outer Limits episode that eli5 explains it in a way so that even socially stunted redditors can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:22 PM
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more scrutiny in family courts, less use of things like duluth models, more funds thrown in social helps for men to prevent suicide, homelessness and parental rights. More recognition for men who put their lives on the forefront in dangerous jobs and security, more safety nets for those who did thtose jobs in case of injury, a better representation of statistics about abuse so abused men get the needed help and less dismissal and/or shaming This is just broad desire of MRAs to remove pedestal/wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:58 PM
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Using marxism as politics is invariably flawed ("we do this because marxism/feminism is morally good"), since it always turns on itself. What this means in practice you take what marxism tells you about capitalism, but shouldn't use marxism as your anti-capitalist platform - that's more or less what fascism did a century ago, or china more recently. Of course free markets have flaws. No system is perfect. Capitalism seems like it's about to kick the bucket (by its own doing). We're circling into…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 PM
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You're missing the point. Marxism is a sound critique of capitalism, it becomes unsound the moment you make marxism your political program. Same with critical theory - while it's basically marxist style transplanted to social critique, it works well to identify whats wrong, but the moment you make it your politics it ends like any marxism, ie circular firing squad. Amusingly, the frankfurt school intellectuals recognized the problem with marxism (ie self-referential critique) - that no virtuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:41 PM
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So, they just aren't? They sure love to talk about that they are. Whatever it implies is up to you, I just find it interesting how both these things follow same trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:31 PM
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Gender essentialism doesn't preclude social conditioning. Essentialism only says what underlying impulses are, however such impulses would manifest unfiltered only if you lack any socialization/social pressure to filter em out. In fact, gender essentialism has frameworks for patterns of how each sex socializes in the specific (male risk seeking, female risk avoidant), which modifies behavior on top of the base animal. Women are not more emotionally stable Women are more emotionally stable than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:08 PM
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Mainstream feminism is blank slatism indeed (frankly, most of woke stuff is). Feminists in the 70s were far less deluded in this regard and were often hardcore gender essentialists with far more meaningful insights about the imperatives of sexes. naturally inconsiderate, sex obsessed brutes. By same token, we can label women as incompetent socially parasitic leeches. While the hyperbole is useful to hammer down what ones gender imperative is, one should always keep in mind its merely a hyperbole…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:58 PM
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I see, so vanguardism. I'm reminded of the incidents in sweden where initial gender quota that 50% of admissions must be women overshot the goal, and now there were 70% women admitted. And so MRAs raised a stink about it - what about 50% quotas for men as well? What?! Does this mean you'll have to reject female student admission just to make room for some stinky moids? Just because they're women? What is this patriarchy?! It's a ploy to oppress women! And this is why you need a vanguard party as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:27 PM
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They're ideologically opposed. That is goals of one camp infringe on goals of the other and vice versa. Eg if MRAs manage to meaningfuly reduce pussy pass (women are wonderful bias) in courts, it functionally infringes on feminist goals (who conversely insist the society is biased against em writ large, and MRA goal being achieved is just further patriarchy). Or if feminists manage to reduce pay gap to near zero, they'll do so only at a cost of massively unfair quota systems - again something MR…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:22 PM
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academic integrity Yeah, sociology being mostly coopted by woke screeching is doing it a lot of disservice. The priors of it (eg critical theory) are sound, but the people practicing it are for the most part dogmatic hacks who turned it into political orthodoxy that falls on its face as an intellectual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:28 AM
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the term has become almost meaningless Same could be said about MRA, chuds, incels, TRPers etc. Yes they come in a spectrum with shared center, but I don't think that's grounds to make no true scotsman excuses. Same for feminism - A TERF will disagree on trans issues and sex work, but otherwise will mostly align with mainstream feminist screeching - and its that cross section of that Venn diagram your opposition (ie MRAs) are mostly aiming at, not the outliers who give you "bad name". I fall clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:21 AM
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feminist issues exist in every country You're handwaving. What are the legitimate feminist issues in Sweden?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:09 AM
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The waves broadly generalize causes and their perceived legitimacy. I have mansplained explicit examples of what they are if you're confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:02 AM
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This is a broader issue with marxist causes. Their starting prior is that of victimhood becoming self-justifying moral superiority. The upside is you can easily attract losers as adherents for your ideology ("I'm a victim, and therefore a good person!"). The downside is you attract psychopaths, who mask behind the loserdom and attract sympathy (people who play victim card). Opposite of this is fascist coded ideologies that anchor their morality in more abstract ideals than victimhood. Ie race, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:59 AM
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I think most real feminist advocacy right now is probably taking place in non-Western societies. Indeed, most of non-western world (including africa and middle east) is kind of having its 1st wave feminism moment. One thing is to whine about pay gaps in Sweden with damn gender quotas, entirely another fighting for right to drive a car or be able to divorce abusive husband in Saudi Arabia. The Marxist roots of 2nd wave and onward pretty much delegitimized the feminist cause. Similar pattern can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:49 AM
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What about critique from female authors, eg Camille Paglia or Erin Pizzey? As far I can tell, they were just promptly disregarded as MRAs since they largely align with MRA talking points (never mind they criticized mainstream feminism long before modern MRA discourse).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:38 AM
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I'd just assume that the jar loosened through his efforts and I just so happened to the one who was able to open it. That's what a wise woman would do indeed - rationalize away the potentially bad impression she has, instead of yielding to it. Not every action is a power play or display. This has nothing to do with power play or display. You're not having a dickwaving contest with the woman (men have those with other men).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:22 AM
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Strange take because this comment suggests violence is acceptable where it is not. You're imposing a feminized frame that inhibits mens violent impulses leaving em frustrated to begin with when the dominance game can't be played on equal ground. This is very typical of female (and especially feminist) solipsistic perspective, but I don't think its that hard to see it if you detach from your own experience a bit. Men's social success is driven by dominance - be it literal or abstract violence. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:50 AM
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name calling is something we are exposed to our entire lives I'm not really sure women can grow thick skin like this in straightforward manner as men do. I do see it with the "cool girls" sometimes who are heavily exposed to male style of socialization, but generally women seem far more touchy with shaming language - both offensively and defensively. I can't tell a woman I like shes fat, not even as a joke. And it's obvious why, the thick skin simply isn't there and would be immediately internal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:17 AM
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Again, you're deliberately obtuse. Point is that one is competent and would rather prefer not to be. Anxieties about whether it's deserved or fear of being exposed is more of tack on anxieties in context of employment or academic achievement that obviously don't apply to jar opening, hence "specific kind". I do agree someone like you would be very unlikely to feel that way, as you seem to exhibit different style of coping pattern - try-hard to convince everyone else of your own competence so as …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:03 AM
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It's a feeling of guilt about your own competence. Maybe don't use such big words if you don't understand them. So far you're just screeching, and not arguing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:54 AM
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You're projecting your own militant feminism on women in general. anti-agency It's also known as the very specific kind of impostor syndrome when you open the jar in front of your feckless man. Or pick up his socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:50 AM
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I can't take insults about virtue seriously from porn addicts and whore mongers. That's more of rationalization so as to regulate the emotion it invokes, how you accomplish said emotional regulation doesn't really matter that much though. Can men preserve masculinity without a woman? It's just an example how it interacts with womens emancipation, none the less the male dominance game this is part of doesn't rely on women. You'll feel emasculated regardless of whether women are involved or not. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:47 AM
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None the less, If you hang on to facetious figure of speech you're still an obtuse moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:42 AM
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Turns out this tool was pretty load bearing. Shame is badly misunderstood in modernity. In that women overrate the effect it has in driving behavior - they think guilt tripping someone or being guilt tripped hits harder than it actually does - we live in a "shameless" age. And conversely men underestimate it - they think being shamed matters much less than it actually does. The reality of shame is that it has to translate into action, real shaming happens by others actually bullying you when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:06 PM
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This. Emasculated mode of shame exists to avoid sinking in social status. Ignoring it too much (as feminists naively suggest) and not acting on it is ill-advised. Women side of this is complementary anti-agency, they feel ashamed or disgusted if they're more competent (can easily open a jar) than the man who struggles or has no idea whatsoever how to open a jar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:40 PM
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Social defeat in the context of male gender role. Can't open a jar? Feel emasculated - it's "your job" to be the jar-opener and you failed. It's interesting that no such thing really exists on side of women anymore, that is, unlady-like behavior is instead painted as empowering, while it existed as victorian morals in the past (things that are lady-like and unlady-like). The male failure is typically one where the male fails to perform something they should be able to perform, while female failu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:28 PM
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True. None the less, truth is boring and hurtful, women love being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:17 PM
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The internet was a boys locker room until circa 2007, and everything was fine. Myspace, tumblr and later modern social media and iphone becoming womens hugbox is where it went downhill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:42 AM
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This is more about juggernaut effect in and itself. Whether one is "happily single" or not is irrelevant. Though it's true that people spouting value judgements like "being single is happiness" or "loneliness is misery" have some other underlying issue try're trying to rationalize (hamster) with the statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:12 PM
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Continuing this analogy, it means that you get shown some attention from women, but it's far less than you're yearning for (relationship/sex/family). Same as it is with poor people being entitled to money. Talking in absolutes is naive strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:30 PM
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80% of women cant have 20% of men. Of course they can. That's what serial dating is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:14 PM
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You can rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:09 PM
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You need money to live. Not that much money. In both cases it's entitlement to higher "living standard" than you can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:07 PM
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You're incoherent, this doesn't work even as a whatabout. For a man to be a 'hypocrite' like this, he'd have to be on OF himself. Consuming porn isn't the same as shooting porn. You can buy drugs, and still don't like drug dealers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:39 AM
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Better analogy would be a "socialist" saying that poor people are just entitled to money - said "real socialist" cares only about dismantling capitalism, not about poor people, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:09 PM
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The intuition behind it goes like I'm attractive -> I'm a good person, ergo, attractive guy must be a good person also. It's mere self-projection. And this is not even taking plain halo effect into account (effect of which people tend to overestimate here - halo is more of first impression thing that vanes over time, while other biases have more staying power).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:35 PM
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Again, video games and satanists were "linked" to violence all the same. I clicked your link, it's just moral panic pamphlet. Yes, I know what stochastic terrorism is. It's what illiterates about statistics call their trustmebro feelings. There are very basic issues, eg ignoring causal arrow, just because some shooters are incels doesn't mean incels are shooters and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:17 PM
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when even multiple factions of my government see it as a problem Gays were the problem before, and satanists and video games even before that. Moral panics indeed serve politicians and certain stripes of media well, but once again, nobody really takes idle frustration people vent online seriously. If you're in doubt, talk to a cop. People who lack resolve make vaguely threatening sounds, but you should be more worried about people that don't. They're the ones who end up doing the most damage. Ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:05 PM
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Now you're world lawyering, and being obtuse with subtext to boot. "Will not be tolerated" implies (in your literal reading) that there is price to pay - same as the village would. If incel said that, you'd immediately jump that its a threat all the same, village or not. You're not intellectually honest, that is, you're full of shit. Neither side is committed to that intent though, as their frustration is only intense enough to bring incoherent screeches like this, instead of making actual threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:41 PM
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That will NOT be tolerated. The irony, also an idle threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:35 PM
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Are you saying that incel who posted in the specific is a school shooter, or what? More catastrophizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:34 PM
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I do trust some people see it as a threat, especially people on the spectrum who can't read tone/subtext, and interpret everything literally. But if you want it spelled out what is actually happening here: The incel feels betrayed and more importantly resentful towards his obligations to the village. That specific statement codes for frustration - it's an idle threat at best, because it's non-committal. It doesn't say "I will burn the village" (actual threat if we're talking "educated on the eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:27 PM
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I do agree it's a tone deaf statement as it doesn't intend to accommodate your feelings, making you - and more broadly the moral panic about incels - hysterical. But sane people wouldn't really read basic bitch revenge fantasy like this at a face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:07 PM
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It gets to the point where treating men as equals is met with hostility. Treating a man like your equal (ie treating him like a woman) is emasculating, and indeed most men don't like that - no more like you don't really like being treated like a man (that's what men are low key doing when you feel threatened or "not heard"). I'm not exactly sure what the complaint is here, that we should all have androgynous, sexless, genderless values and objectives?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:01 PM
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"will somebody please think of le society" is just male propensity to externalize ones individual problems. It's not really a threat against you/women (that's your propensity to catastrophize, because you're conversely internalizing outside signal). You're overthinking (hamstering) elementary sex-coded cognitive biases, but it's not really that deep you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:54 PM
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The first woman RP men "listened" to was their mom, and it's no surprise how this ends. Moms tell their sons they should act in a way appealing as a son to moms (be boring, be stable, don't risk, be careful about sex or don't have sex at all etc), but not to other women. Freud was onto something all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:33 PM
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What you're describing is our blessed homeland meme. Women get similarly contradictory messages, be a girlboss, but be feminine, be a slut, but a wife material etc etc. Ultimately you have to recognize people are just reframing the masculine imperative to smear you. There's nothing wrong with objectifying if you're respectful about it etc. The behaviors themselves are fine, you're too focusing at negative framing of people who hate you. Just ignore it and stick to the actual meaning of said soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:22 PM
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Average man is a burden, or a net cost for average woman, so yes, the man that is preferred gotta stand above to be "worth it". That's just female hypergamy/male disposability. Is it fair? Idk, is being pregnant fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:27 AM
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It's true that women are more polite, especially in front of men the way you say. It's a different story entirely behind back of said men and in subtext - women are in fact far more ruthless with their gossip. Eg, man who has a chip on a shoulder about women will say that women are sluts - directly. Woman with same hang up about men will, instead, imply that men are violent rapists, but the implied passive-aggressive language doesn't make it nicer. You're trying to make apple orange comparison o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:36 AM
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Suppose women would be victimized more than they're now, do you think you'd hate men more, or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:56 PM
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Yeah, that's how it's normally used, it's basically how you say you have a side piece on a vacation, and how the sex compares vs your bf. It's interesting how one half the sub (mostly women) pretends that isn't the colloquial (albeit crass edgy girls) use, while the other half (like OP) doesn't even know what it refers to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:17 PM
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This is just halo effect. If you're sexless, you're most likely unattractive, being unattractive = bad personality (halo). Sexless = bad personality is a false correlation to rationalize the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:05 PM
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Better than dad bods ig.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:13 AM
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It's well past that, if you don't think feminism is adversarial to men (and vice versa MRAs to women), there's no gender war for you to begin with. Not mere crazy minorities, the tug of war is very real on political polarization of sexes. If you want something specific, if Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian didn't exist, it's quite possible Trump wouldn't be in office. Culture war has very tangible consequences, and the crazy outliers have often oversized influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:54 AM
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Yeah, the social contagion is real. I just don't see an easy way out of it - feminism is backlash to patriarchy, MRA is backlash to feminism which produces more feminist backlash... It's a cycle of ideological violence where both sides end up dehumanizing each other to caricatures. I think the blunt truth is that one side has to "decidedly" win, and just repress the other. That is, either patriarchy or matriarchy are metastable as two social orders, and everything inbetween ends up just being th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:16 AM
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People often find it difficult to tell the two apart. It's not just a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:39 AM
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Attend gay parties for improved vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:35 PM
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It works other way around too. Men (read: simps) reward (read: tolerate) poor character of women, and then complain about it. I don't think pointing at enablers is really that helpful, though, ultimately whoever does something bad is the bad one, enabler is at best complicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 06:51 AM
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Autism isn't constant over time. Whether there's causal link and not just coincidence is another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:35 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me? I can’t make sense of how what you’re saying is supposed to apply to what I said. Yes. many more women wouldn’t end up destitute after decades of caring for and contributing to their family both at home and through having a job. This isn't what commonly happens, precisely because women are mercenary to prevent that fate. I'm labeling it femcel spiel, because the perspective is delusional, and blown out of proportion. Understand that this is the anxiety most women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:12 PM
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Mercenary, for example, means choosing a man who will provide more long term security, even if you're not that into him. And many other aspects of femininity. Men on the other hand are possessive, not mercenary. I recommend Summerhouse Trilogy if you're interested in romance novel on the topic. Or Firestones The Dialect of Of Sex if you prefer analytic perspective on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:50 PM
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Nothing you're talking about, femcel woe is me spiel, is relevant to the topic, unless you're trying to illustrate that those are delusional and goal post moving abound just as incels are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:40 PM
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The goal post moving is annoying, plus its attributes of men being assigned arbitrary significance (things like dick size are infamous) that doesn't really track well as a generality. However the concept women loving differently and generally being more "mercenary" than men as such originates from female writers who are rather insightful on the subject (Firestone, Alice Thomas Ellis), as well the male usual suspects (from Schopenhauer to Bukowski).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:47 AM
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It's an euphemism for pump&dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:11 AM
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Ohhhh so only some stuff is to be taken at face value and other stuff isn’t. sounds totally legit, Yes, it's called semantics. All the stuff that looks stupid I’d just hyperbole! No, you're just trying to misinterpret the meaning to justify your own hysteria. it’s just a meme!! I'm sorry, but chad really is just a meme, exaggerated concept. Moreover, you're not anywhere "normie" to make your claim this is the first time you coming across it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:53 AM
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It's been always a hyperbole, implicitly. You're conflating this with alpha in TRP, where it's taken at face value because TRP narrative itself does (that's why it works to refer to someone as "alpha" ironically, but less so with chad - you can't use hyperboles for irony, as the hyperbole itself is already half-ironic).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:41 AM
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Yes, that's generally the idea (humorous exaggeration) behind memes. Especially the young or non NT? Indeed it's often people with aspergers specifically who are unable to read subtext, and misinterpret jargon subsequently. It’s not like those on the spectrum have a problem taking everything literally, right? You're not autistic (as evidenced by your use of sarcasm). Just obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:26 AM
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Irrepairable brainrot if you can't tell its a hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:11 AM
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Ok, monolilith.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:21 PM
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Is this from that OKcupid study where the women also tended to message guys they rated below average whereas the men kept messaging the mostly above average women? That's not what book (Dataclysm), nor the graph pulled from it says, stop making shit up. The graph is often misrepresented in blackpill spaces though, the normal distribution is mostly due to higher variance with which men rate women (that is, men are less likely to "agree" whether woman is hot or not so it spreads out over distribut…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:37 PM
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Forcibly desexualizing opposite sex (if you're hetero obv) isn't "human bean", but the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:27 PM
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Change tone of the room. If you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:25 PM
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This. From it also follows how you handle it: Just say you focused on yourself, career, mental health, traveled etc - ideally it should be true, even though not the actual reason for not pulling. By using the actual reasons for why women aren't dating to excuse yourself, suddenly there's nothing suspicious anymore as you're now relatable to her solipsistic worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 11:13 PM
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Point is whether the hyper individualism is something desirable, or just (feminist propaganda as stated by parent) delulu. Feminist framing is suspicious in that the single partner supposedly restricts your freedom more than having none. It's cynicism and avoidant attachment being sold as virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:09 PM
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Both abuse and protect, although protect will be overwhelming majority. You can make one excludes another by pretending a group is a single entity, but only to make it clear you're not interested in debating anything. Also, me talking to you isn't abuse. Sure you mean it only as a jab, but you still sound like insane attention chasing twitter user.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:40 PM
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You're not making statement about the real (civilized) world though. You're only telling on yourself. If you're a girl in pakistan who's force-married off by her relatives, I'll eat my words. But I doubt you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:27 PM
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Do you think most men out there are more likely to protect you, or abuse you. Indeed, I'm curious in what world do you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:25 PM
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shaming is pretty even. You can make some quantitative comparisons, such as occurence of "lol, men are so useless, amirite girls" vs "lol, women are so useless, amirite guys" in popular culture. If you do this a bit more honestly, you'll start noticing the former is far more widespread than the latter, but also that people are outright blind to the former, while the latter is somehow "outrageous". Women just complain a lot. About anything, not just about men. Just this being normalized so much -…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:11 PM
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I don’t think that’s a good moral compass It's also guys who prevent other guys from raping. It's literally the only compass that's out there, there's no alternative. Maybe "let's neuter guys, and make em be like women and do nothing". Look around how that turned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:06 PM
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It's not that deep. If he's into you, he's emotionally intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:47 AM
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As far the dating dynamics you seem to be most bitter about: Yes, it's comparable. You have dick on tap, but not relationship. You can get relationship anytime you want too, but with somebody you'd not want to fuck. Both as a gay man and a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:34 AM
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Point is that men act still as men (including promiscuity) if put into a "role" of women, not whatever nonsense you're hallucinating. But if you want something more concrete than that, try divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:14 AM
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There's a large group of men - gay men - who are in this situation. Maybe look in their direction first before hallucinating mouth-words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:58 AM
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You'll have same issues as women. It's easy to fuck with hot guys, but no relationship. You can get relationship easily, but only with someone you don't want to fuck. You'll be still stuck between rock and hard place. Hypergamy isn't "inherent" to women, but sort of a product of how male desire operates - young and hot mates are a minority and in demand, incentivizing em to monkeybranch, and they'll do so with glee. On top of that, tack on inherent male promiscuity women don't have (they're seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:16 AM
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Conversely, the onus is on you that gender gap between left/right used to be huge as your feminist alt-history purports. Again, you're conflating issue voters (like, say, temperance) vs left/right gap between sexes. It's unprecedented for this gap to be huge in a sense that voting blocs used to represent both sexes closely - ppl in proximity of equal gender mix(family, friend circles etc) voted close political alignment. Not anymore. For further elementary polisci, consult ChatGPT, this isn't ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:20 AM
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As far back this is historically relevant, ie past 150 years. Also, I'm talking about left/right divide, not about your victim olympics non-sequitur. Even at height of suffrage campaign it wasn't this wide - that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:50 AM
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Revenge fantasy. I do agree in spirit with OP though - the political polarization between sexes is historically unprecedented, and men falling behind probably has a lot to do with it. People who have nothing to gain from it don't radicalize. For as long gynocentric pedestal remain as is, the political sentiment to remove advantage it provides will continue to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:39 PM
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not very good at keeping your opinions to yourselves Yeah, it's a mask off in short order. Weeks at best. because you think there’s nothing wrong with them. Well, that's undersocializd incels who fail to make impression. As for holding beliefs = makes you honest, not believing a belief = makes you hide it (why? how? what?), that doesn't make any sense. alcohol exists Getting piss drunk is great to see who people are, but it's typically more intimate, mask off for both. As for just tipsy casual d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:27 PM
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Yeah, one has to bite tongue in those instances too, maybe roll eyes in a way she doesn't notice, and play along. Eventually there's a point of honesty and a reality check - how insufferable people who get outraged on behalf of others are. But its not something you can lead in with, face to face as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:04 PM
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Oddly, many men are able to do it. Until we smash, that is. Not gassing up women is a recipe for inceldom, but gassing em up makes women delusional over time. It's a rock and hard place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:58 PM
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Em dash is from ebooks. The bullet points is from various recipes the bot biases spiritually to when asked for advice and trying to be "helpful". You can tell the robot to not do that, and even include common typos. Genuinely spotting LLM then can be done due to its all-encompassing air of blandness (center of distribution) around the asked topic it does. But that can be also the case for someone with bland opinions.
/r/seduction21/05/25 09:55 AM
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/r/seduction21/05/25 04:33 AM
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Why is there so much contradictory advice for dieting (including "advice" like HAES)? Simple: People want to hear the "easy" way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:05 PM
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Women can smell autism, that is, lack of social skill. Fuckboys are the opposite, maxxed out social skill stat. Women get outclassed by fuckboy, whereas the autist gets outclassed by women. There's no hypocrisy, other than mischaracterizing social awkwardness as "misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:11 PM
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It's more about carrot and stick. You need both and carrot (to lure em in) and stick (to make em work for the carrot initially promised) being the base psychology of marketing/seduction. The carrot is subject of libidic desire you need to cold read. Obviously being hot is always such subject but that's not all thats there. It's also more abstract things like yarning for some dream in future (=future baiting), self-image (=make em feel good about themselves) and many other things. Being hot is tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:24 PM
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The point of the analogy is the double standard for people in same category. Same group of peers, but different hidden rank of some members. Thats how entitlement from just world fallacy arises in the first place. Contrast with class systems of feudalism your analogy is more akin to, where serfs were simply told they'll never get the fancy shit - and this removed most of serfs entitlement, there was never a way, so no hope and unfulfilled expectation either. They simply accepted the shit is had …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:54 PM
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Dudes just have no standards and are just dumpster diving for LTR rather than be alone, what else is new.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:42 AM
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All women are effectively prostitutes but expensive prostitutes vs cheap prostitutes. That's very crude. The emotional investment from the man that is "betrayed" can be very abstract here - similar how you feel betrayed by someone you thought were your friend, but they do something that hurts you. There is underlying current of entitlement of expecting something back, but it's not just in return for your money, most of the time. but they will allow some/a man from the 80% to earn a spot? He earn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:43 AM
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It's intertwined. In very simple terms, men love in part to get sex, women give sex to get/feel loved. Of course real world is more complicated than that, it's just to illustrate from which direction the wind blows. How we experience jealousy follows from that - men are possessive of womans sex "given" to other men. Whereas women are possessive of man's love (attention) "given" to other women. For instance, man will be far less concerned about woman's emotional cheating with some other guy who's…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:20 AM
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And it's not like these promiscuous women are hurting ppl ? For as long people perceive sex is something scarce that women "give" and men have to bargain for (one way or another, let's not pretend they dont and it just happens), it will be like this. It's not really disgust, it's sour grapes. It's a feeling similar to buying something you think is great at great expense, only to find out others got it for free. You won't be mad at the people who got it for free - good for em and you wish you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:47 PM
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I have really nothing to add, but notice people are throwing "you're insecure" for deflection around a lot, so perhaps instructional how to be secure in your masculinity is in order. There's a distinction between insecurity and simply being judgemental (unless the judgement is used for deflection from ones own insecurity). If you feel judged by others, you are the one who's insecure, not them. There's a pain point for you salt is rubbed on, if you were confident in whatever they judge you for, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:21 PM
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If they were hypergamous then how do so many of them get used for free sex? "If they were truly greedy, they'd invest into building equity, instead of scratching lottery tickets." You're not differentiating behavior vs mode of its expression. Yes, there are dumb and smart ways to be hypergamous, and it will be expressed according to ones own intelligence. Actual hypergamous women would expect a man to pay for a real date and to “prove” himself. That is still rather weak play on the level of scra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:10 PM
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You're comparing across demographics, which has several sampling issues, eg each generation is different culture, as well fixed incentives like spouses becoming fat/ugly, thus incentivizing more cheating - these all disappear if you compare ratio of cheating between sexes which stays independent of externalities (they cancel out - share same generational culture, both men and women cheat more because people have incentive to cheat more as they get older, eg spouse getting fat/neglectful/whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:39 AM
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But the gap reverses as it jumps into the next age group. Again, the point is to make comparison where it flips (around wall), as I originally stated, not just pulling numbers without context as a non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:25 AM
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You need direct comparison between sexes, not when women "start", it doesn't work like that. Common sense query, "cheating rates men women" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:15 AM
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Wouldn't being hornier make em cheat more, not less tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:53 AM
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not smart enough to practice hypergamy That's like saying dumb people are not smart enough to be greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:38 AM
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I think cheating rates and number of partner rates is very similar for men and women. Men used to cheat more, but in my country by the 90s that gap had closed. Likely because women are less afraid of being left penniless and unable to work now. If you look up stats on this, you'll notice a rather interesting trend - women cheat more until 30 or so, and afterwards it flips, men cheat more. Intuition could be made that cheating reflects the mating opportunities a given demographic has overall if w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:33 AM
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You're slanting this a little bit too much to certain gold digger type of woman, but I agree in spirit. A more classic example is high school senior dating a college guy, coz he can get her booze and has a car. Etc. Another consequence of this dynamic is that if a girl moves up a class, she's more likely to be pretty, and this is less pronounced for guys. This can be gleaned from eg. obesity statistics that does breakdown of demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:04 AM
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The debate standards are not great on here, as plenty of people just default to defensive solipsism ("It's not my experience, ergo, your perspective doesn't matter"). But it's just matter of separating wheaf from chaff. Even when arguing with rabid incels/femcels, it can be useful as a sounding board to test your convictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:49 AM
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Charitable take: It's for people who want their beliefs challenged, but that doesn't imply changed. A debate changing opinions to opposing one is rare. The way this works is that it makes your opinion more nuanced, and shifts you either towards (becoming moderate) or away (doubling down on extreme) from the opposing stance. I'm seeing both with people on here, ie some TRPers and incels becoming less radical, some more, and same with femcels and feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:31 PM
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I'm not offended at all however this does help support the reason why we as men are closed off and don't expose our feelings.. You can seek emotional support from other close male friends. The whole "its too gay" is a ball in mens court. Men understand woes of each other far better, womens comfort counts for less as its more of sympathy, having no lived experience as a man, expecting empathy is a bit too much of an ask.
/r/MensRights13/04/25 02:52 AM
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What is a "normie"? Someone whose social instincts are imprinted social scripts. PPD skews poorly socialized people who overintellectualize it, which is in many ways polar opposite of the "normie" archetype. "normie people think this or that" The point is that normie man doesn't ponder why its bad idea to call woman fat, or why it makes her feel the way it does. He instinctively knows it makes her feel bad, so don't call her fat, even in roundabout way, even if she asks you to. That's all there …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:25 PM
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Men have no agency, they're just weak willed victims of women's social engineering. Most certainly, men are dogs. Just like parents are weak willed victims of children, poor parents have to pretend santa is real to not make em cry. Men are fully conscious of this, and partaking in the game is conscious choice. There's certainly many celibate men who choose to do the opposite too of course, if that's your paragon of men's virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:09 PM
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Yeah, I mentioned it elsewhere that women especially on OLD have a tendency to give men the rope to make the girl hang with. "i can fix him", "if I ask him what are we he'll think less of me", plus myriad of other toxic relationships via covert contract. As far I'm concerned, I have no qualms about being toxic if toxic is what they open with. I can feel sympathy only for people who are naive and don't play mind games.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:02 PM
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I fail to see the misogyny. Women are still the ones who decide whether there will be a relationship or not, as a guy you're just supposed to make best of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:55 PM
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make up = lying to get laid For users on the spectrum: Both are used to get validation from the opposite sex. Women's "i make myself hot for myself" autosexuality is still getting off from knowing that others find you hot, and the power it grants you over em. In case of men, we embellish to seem a bigger catch than we really are too. Self-absorbed vanity like women is the best case in a man. Way too many guys do this to "prove their worth", by explicitly soliciting pats on the back from the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:45 PM
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It's just seduction 101. Don't expect any commitment from the girl at first, just sex, even though her "intent" is the reverse. This is because the most common type of girl on OLD that wants a relationship she'd sabotage it the moment you'd give in too much in terms of emotional investment. She's a keeper only if she shows some staying power. Yes it's a psychotic game of dangling the carrot, but one that women socialize men to do. We'd rather fuck, not be your emotional tampon gay best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:32 PM
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You're forgetting the all time banger let em believe what they want to believe, aka leading em on and lying You'd be surprised how many women give you the rope to hang themselves with. For some reason they're death afraid to push with "what are we" early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:57 PM
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If they are told that they are at fault and deserve to be mistreated, they will never feel they deserve better and it will only further contribute to tolerating abusive dynamics. Pity doesn't work either tho, they're bottomless pit. Best way to go about this is to still criticize, but not in a way that would validate the vulnerable narcissist for their "i deserve my victimhood" self-loathing cope. For instance, you can just call people out when they take emotional shortcuts like this. That them …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:27 PM
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I see these comments as simple social ineptitude. Avoiding these blunders is part of normie socialization. Normie women know this as "men have fragile egos" and acting on it works well enough to not provoke retroactive jealousy. Same as normie men have the common sense "women don't like being reminded that sex is primarily what men care about at first" so as to not provoke anti-slut defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:39 PM
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He fumbled it by truthfuly voicing the male imperative. It's insulting in same way like when women sometimes fumble relationship by saying something like "You're not sex material, you're a boyfriend material". These suicidal "compliments" happen because people say how they perceive it, with no empathy for the actual desires of the person on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:38 AM
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careers or the government is their husband In high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:50 AM
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Bizarre orthodoxy. Similarly as religious cults do. Pulling in very weird people who have nowhere else to go. Similarly as cults do. I'm being a bit facetious here, people just jokingly refer to SV polycules as sex cults. As long it stays within realm of over-rationalized polyamory, it's harmless. However incidence of harmful cult behavior is definitely heightened in the proximity of EA. I'm sure you're familar with the trans ranch, SBF, and the Zizian incident more recently. As for Aellas work,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:41 AM
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s/rationalist/rationalizing You guys are certainly eclectic bunch with your reinventing sex cults and secular theology. It's a hard sell to normies though, as most people aren't really that downbad to spiral this far of intellectual deep end. For those interested regardless, look up Aella, who runs one of the larger sex cults in SV. For something less culty to "gain experience", it's simpler to hire a hooker like a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 08:15 AM
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"Most men" are over the age of 42.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:15 AM
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Matriarchy doesn't mean patriarchy genderswapped. Matriarchy/matrifocality is a soft power of women dominating men as a group in diffused way, congruent with how women socialize. It's not a system of individual competence/dominance like patriarchy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:15 AM
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Most people do all that stuff anyway but a lot of men here have absolutely nothing going on except gaming. Even that is valid, it's just that you'd have to be esports player for it to translate to enough popularity that would be attractive. Playing in a band or stand up comedy is definitely more realistic. Do note that "hobbies" alone is a bit of trite advice. "Something going for him" needs to result in proper social context of being respected by ones own peers (popularity). “I’m not six feet t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:31 PM
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I’ve known since age four or so that men are nicer when I look pretty, so I’m well aware that I’m expected to always improve on my hat I started with. It's not tabula rasa though. Infant girls have higher social value orientation from the get go, though it gets reinforced socially in ways as you say. It's not really some patriarchal brainwashing, in most mammal species (including those with dominant dominant female sex), females end up more pro-social. improving his personality and attitude Agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:49 PM
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Are women complaining they can't find attractive men? Both sexes are whining about it. Men whine they can't find (any) women, women complain the men they can find are not good enough. Men telling women they should lower standards is largely self-projection, meaning, that's what would a man do. Same as women are telling men they should find fault within and improve themselves, as that's what would a woman do. Neither "advice" is useful due to gender specific self-projection. Nor is it useful to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:32 PM
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It's ultimately about what you can afford. If you're broke, but want to drive a fancy car, so as to not be sentenced to a "lifetime of driving a shitbox", your options are either buy a car you can afford (as men do), or not drive at all (as women do). should be subjected to a lifetime of sex with a man who disgusts her sexually. If you're not willing to buy the cheaper car, don't complain the cars you want are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:00 PM
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Feel free to specify what "women's entitlement" is displayed in anything I've said Why would anything you said be relevant? If it wasn't clear: I mentioned the muh female entitlement as an example of incel whining that doesn't include the incentive to get sex. As for what I'm trying to argue, you're psychologizing way too much - the misogyny displayed in incel narratives is way too broad than simple "its a ploy to get sex". I can psychologize too: You're feeling like they're trying to guilt trip…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:14 AM
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This is never taken as a reflection of their own "unrealistic standards," Before jumping this whatabout: Notice the statement is gender neutral. But assuming we want to keep the argument honest, there's qualitative difference: It is trivial to see downbad men have virtually no standards aside from "shes at least vaguely fuckable", which only exacerbates their issues (low standards invites abuse from terrible women -> incels think this is all women). If anything, a bit of more (not too much) self…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:54 AM
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obvious self-interest. If you're complaining about something not meeting your standards writ large, you're in fact complaining about your own unrealistic standard, the common denominator. You just sound entitled, and it rubs people the wrong way like any entitlement: You're voicing an expectation that the world should change for you. Either they don't qualify and are unhappy with their dating options, and mistakenly believe that the reason they aren't considered for relationships is because wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:53 AM
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If only homeless people bought houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:07 PM
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women after 10% of men" The best way to deal with this is to find adequate analogy so that you're not distracted by personal feelings and anecdotes. For instance, one can make statement 80% of home buyers are interested only to buy property in top 20% areas (the ratio might be different, but pareto law definitely exists there). Now you're left wondering "How can this be true? I see people buying homes everywhere...". This is because your anecdote is missing a context - the long tail can't afford…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:11 PM
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The sub makes sweeping generalizations of both sexes. You have to argue why the generalization doesn't hold to some reasonable degree (that is, does it or does not represent substantial set of people?). "Achktually, there are exceptions to the [purported] rule" isn't a valid argument to refute the rule, but mere deflecting the generalizing assertion that is being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:55 PM
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It means that having a career does not make a woman attractive. Nor does lack of thereof though. "Career makes women unattractive" is something only incel and tradwife weirdos believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:41 AM
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Friendzoned. She's not into you that way.
/r/seduction20/02/25 02:40 AM
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To an extent (in Scream Quietly) she touches on how the pattern goes far back. Erin posits that at least half of DV is product of mutual escalation - and that escalation can more easily happen if womens right is in public discourse and wives opposing their husbands is more socially normalized, as opposed to suffering silently due to social pressure present in the 1950s. This weakly supports your thesis that there was indeed much less DV because women felt trapped by social stigma and were less l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:22 PM
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Do your own homework. Hint: Erin Pizzey.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:58 PM
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You wouldn't guess what The Simpsons were about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:07 PM
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It might help to qualify this is a very online trend thus affects chronically online women (which is still a lot of women in certain age groups). As for motivations for these seemingly distorted preferences, it ties to self-esteem ("how good a man looks depends on how it reflects on me") and social approval. Violating the approval rule is so discomforting it can actually kill attraction, meaning the resulting preference is real as an attractive attribute in a sense. The looks of the man don't ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:49 AM
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Throw men at a wall and see which one sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:36 PM
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yet it’s not mentioned at all When you're an employer looking to hire applicants, you don't care about felons, it doesn't even cross your mind, you simply care about the pool of applicants that qualify. Is the employer "dishonest" for not writing "no felons plz" on the job posting? Sure the felon guy could go and complain if he's clueless why he's excluded from the applicant pool. Maybe he needs to be reminded once or twice hell would freeze over before he gets that job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:49 PM
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“yeah I care about looks too, and you’re just not hot”? Only if the guy is severely autistic, but such would never ask you in feminine coded/flirty tone in the first place. He'd ask you like guys talk on PPD. As for how you'd shut down normal guy, just respond with unenthusiastic "sometimes", "maybe". Which just means "You've implied you're hot in a flirty manner, asked me whether I'm into that, and I said no". Because the guy asked with a given subtext, he'll also correctly interpret responses …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:26 PM
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I'm using [] for implied subtext here. Men are not that complicated. If I'm asking "The guy has to be hot too, right?" in a cheeky tone, it just means "am I hot enough / do you like hot guys?". The girl can reply in a way that doesn't hurt anyone ("Yes ofc", "Sometimes" ...). Judgemental would be more of "Why women want only hot guys?!! [EXPLAIN YOURSELF]" as you hear it all the time on PPD. If the non-judgemental tone of the first ask goes over somebodys head and get defensive anyway, it means …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:02 PM
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developing a more individual sense of what's truly important and attractive to her There's another nasty alternative narrative (wall) you'd need to contend with, do we mature coz we're pushed by circumstances (limited options), or is it something we do on our own? This is for a lengthy discussion too... If you feel like it stop on PPD discord (invite in sidebar). I really like your takes (yes, I stalked a bit), so if you have time to waste and feel like procrastinating discussing this further wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:04 PM
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But what if our dating and sexual history actually reflects our stated preferences? Exceptions to the rule. FWIW, while I think baseline height preference exists (generally, sans outliers), it's greatly amplified by the social media obsession around it, as it now became social status signalling in its own right (another part of attraction). it doesn't set off my bullshit meter Because it doesn't match your personal experience (aka you're not a heightqueen, presumably due to being way outside of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:14 PM
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primarily female spaces where they don't have anyone to impress, My headcanon for this is that the virtue signalling isn't done for men's sake. "I am not shallow, I am a good person" makes one primarily lie to oneself. I believe women speak what they believe, but at the same time, behave differently. We men practice such self-deceptions too (fe bravado - we flex on ourselves and maybe other men, but when push comes to shove, eh).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:09 AM
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Excellent writeup. One thing I'd like to add that such change by thousands cuts would likely happen online and then simply bleed into IRL for it to work in the west. Similar as it happened with woke "transition" between 2012-2022, but more extreme in opposite direction. Think tradwife proliferating on TikTok more and more, nudge by nudge, it becoming "fashion". 10 years down the line, the social networks could absolutely reprogram what is deemed normal. People, women especially wouldn't be on bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:50 AM
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I think "gaslight and troll" mischaracterizes what's going on. It's just people being defensive when you hit something that hurts, in most of those instances people just don't want to be judged and want to appear more virtuous than they are [willing to admit to themselves]. This often goes for both sexes, albeit each goes different way about it - women internalize, and thus deflection is all about them personally, how they (or a "friend") likes bald manlet janitors etc. Men externalize, and thus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:25 AM
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If it's between the lines and feminine coded language it's fine. One can playfully probe "The guy has to be hot [like I am] too, right?". If the girl is like "Yeah, ofc" thats alright. But if a girl takes on defensive stance (going on the whole "No I definitely like 4'11 bald janitors with dadbods/know someone who does!" spiel), in spite of asking in non-judgemental way, something is fishy. It's not about implied context anymore, but about striking something that hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:09 AM
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What job let's you just reduce hours because you want too? A good paying one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:54 AM
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Population of HK doesn't decline. HK is a population sink, meaning it declines population somewhere else (mostly mainland china).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:17 PM
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True, but wouldn’t this only work if people don’t know that they are pretty bunk? Yeah, on the internet it doesn't seem like a good idea because you give people time to thin about it. When actually canvasing you specifically introduce pressures to make reactions impulsive to get most accurate result. I think for online survey its still useful for general sentiment to interpret it in handwavy fashion, but useless for actual numbers. In this case I think its more of a mix of fear about unreliabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:29 AM
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On surveys, lie detector is a bogus pipeline, the actual result of the polygraph test - if it were to happen - is to be ignored for reasons you mention. People believing that the detector would reveal something - and thus avoid it or are compelled to speak truthfuly - is the actual information.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:22 AM
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It's an age old coming of age story. Girl gets less fat for a guy, not for herself (that came later). Guy got buff for a girl, not himself (that came later). Yes it's toxic, but sometimes people can't really pull themselves by the bootstraps, and need a little bit of a push from a crush, and the sex/drama just keeps you hooked for long enough for it to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:44 AM
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But for men, who has one option at any given time, who hes already proverbial working overtime hours to be noticed by her and compete for the attention of other men, what does "vetting better" look like for him? Be strategic in the direction to pursue, ie pick oneitis with not too many orbiters and have a go at it. While the simultaneous offer of options is limited, you still have choice in what options you make for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:00 PM
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Not on this earth. fuckbois You mean "all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:31 AM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:17 AM
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No, you're hallucinating shit. I never said anything about what men want, but indeed they are promiscuous to the extent women allow em to, and always will be. Nor I did draw any moral judgements about promiscuity, you did. I said it explicitly that shaming won't work and why. So why even bother to shame people? People who want to be promiscuous, but who don't have the possibilities to act on their promiscuous desire, aren't any better than those who act promiscuous. There is difference between t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:28 AM
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No, it’s not safer now. Meaning risks associated with having sex are the same, or even worse than they were in the past? Care to elaborate in what way? Birth control pills not working? Abortion is banned? You can argue that these tools carry risks of their own, but if they're so insurmountable to a point things are worse now, why not just stop using em when what was before was better?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:41 AM
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Let's try to eli5 illustrate: Were it safer before sexual revolution, or after. Still nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:28 AM
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Ma'am, this is a debate sub. See parent comment if something is unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:25 AM
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Every sexual encounter carries inherent safety concerns, health concerns, pregnancy concerns. Before sexual revolution, yes. After that, most of these concerns disappeared, and thus the balance of promiscuity tilted in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:14 AM
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You're talking about a small group of actors (the eponymous "fuckboys"), not about the group as a whole (most guys). So people would have to take it to the said small group. People did that before sexual revolution (= shotgun weddings), but I don't see that happening anytime soon in a liberal society with mere shaming. Outliers will simply transgress whatever social shaming rules you'd set unless you can make consequences severe enough to be comparable to what it used to be. It's a similar probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:12 AM
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Another way is to add her to a groupchat of guys who wingmen for each other, and they should add their girls they're trying to pull too, making it mixed sex (try to avoid sausage fest). The group should have some vague pretext of interest you all share (even if its just shitposting memes). Then take it to 1:1 chats after some general banter in group. It's more natural to ease in a DM slide.
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:31 AM
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Let's take the original male coded statement: "They want someone masculine to control them as it's primal" And rewrite it as female coded: "They want someone who'd support them and help them grow, and women tend to prefer such men". These two things do mean same thing, however even if you disagree with it from a feminist position of strict equal partners, the latter feels far less hostile - which is the whole point of feminine speech pattern, to dull the emotional impact and prevent hostility (r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:10 AM
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Maybe - and here's the crazy part - sexes use language differently. Where a woman would reach for a passive-aggressive euphemism, man would reach for something aggressively crass. No intent behind it, it's just a pattern of expression genders tend to be socialized with. Sure, men tend to filter out the locker room speech when talking to a woman's face, we have a concept of "scaring the hoes". But on PPD, wouldn't women on here see through men tone-policing themselves anyway? Better let people be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:59 AM
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Is men’s weaponized incompetence in housework and child care also benevolent sexism? That phrasing in the specific is schizo feminism, as it completely misses the mark of the underlying motive for why men are taking you for granted (they are!) in favor of feeding paranoia "men are out to get you!".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:28 PM
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can you guys ever talk about these issues without being derogatory, crass and absolutist Per the BS instruction, guys on PPD should word their replies in baby talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:26 PM
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Well duh. People who don't give a chance to anyone and wait for some ideal don't have many friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:04 PM
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You decided when you were 5 what personality you wanted to craft for yourself? In a way. You can throw yourself into a situation that will demonstrably improve on it. Go tend a bar for a year, and people who didn't see you for a while will straight notice the change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:49 AM
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but your views of what at least high-quality women want are extremely warped. Generalities like OPs are for the center of the normal distribution, not about the apex outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:45 AM
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The mystery of declining marriage rates solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:37 AM
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Aaron's a bit MGTOW slanted. What he says applies to his demographic - stable guys and fat divorced single moms. In their 20s, most guys don't have the luxury of choice as such and it's all on women for fumbling it. It's not really possible to make sweeping generalizations here, because the demands in desirability vs imperative flip around 30-40, ie either case is true depending where you look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:39 PM
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It's not high standards, and it's not really low standards either, as having low expectations rides on low entitlement. It's more like immature standards. Like scratching a lottery ticket, over and over, and then complaining you get nothing. Clearly there must be something wrong with the lottery tickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:53 PM
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you dont know if they’re taken, you don’t know if you guys are looking for the same thing Somehow this is even worse on OLD. you don’t know their sexual orientation, It's not hard to make an educated guess there. hence why men who do this almost always fail No it fails because a male stranger creeps women out while OLD provides a sense of security in knowing you can just block a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:02 AM
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Barring traditional means of putting down women, what you're left with is Women Are Wonderful - At a scale. This is implicit bias, culture is merely reflection of it, not a cause. Patriarchy vs Matriarchy has no stable equilibrium of inbetween, only the edges.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:35 AM
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They also take offense because his actions are often objectively tacitly detrimental Incorrect. it’s nbd Correct. The problem with nagging isn't really the content of nagging as such, but the incessant bitchiness, ie the repetetive pattern. Again, you're ascribing intent that simply isn't there by assuming men use language the same way women do. Conversely, the man is ignorant of what the woman is trying to accomplish there too - he just assumes she just wants to be bitchy and annoying, even tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:01 PM
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You don’t think many men bring up women’s “vulnerabilities” casually in how they speak (doesn’t even have be arguments). I think men are crude but not with intent, and women take offense by ascribing intent that isn't there, simply by assuming that men use language the same way as women do. Men use crude language among themselves, but only women are sensitive to seek subtext on a plane men don't even consider. I think men feel more hurt by these things. Indeed, that's why they don't say that to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:29 PM
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I’ve seen men throw women’s weight in her face. Her looks. I'll agree that this indeed happens, but not really during an argument. How many guy do you think get far with "you're fat" in a relationship? Her not being at work. This one is valid. The whole "I'm breadwinner, you do nothing" is definitely something the woman can feel insecure about. However I'm not sure if thats actually meant to target her insecurity. The man is simply pointing out his own grievance, that just accidentaly hits. Agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:23 PM
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Also chicken in the freezer isn’t really a vulnerability of his. No, it's not. It's how the argument starts to illustrate the opening salvo is not about vulnerability, but is something the man takes as factual and considers topic of the argument. Make it "You couldn't even get a promotion!" or something to that effect deeper in the convo that targets vulnerability, and comes out of the blue, unrelated to the frozen chicken. It would be more like “you always forget to do the basic shit. It’s frus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:21 PM
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. It’s like they never see it coming and don’t see how it’s relevant Men think that the argument is about the single thing she went ballistic about ("why didn't you take out the chicken from the freezer to thaw!!!111"), while in reality the woman is dumping all the accumulated grievances all the way to some minor icks deep in his past. It's not that men are stupid, they're just literal - they don't realize there's a subtext that woman assumes to be a valid context, to men, the point of the argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:48 AM
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It's how you call people names, but in a nice way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:39 AM
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Briffault's law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:37 AM
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Skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:41 AM
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Agreed. Red pill ultimately derives from feminist framing of gender relations as a zero-sum game. In that regard it's inherently feminine/anxiety driven worldview. It's not really solipsism as such (that word gets abused really badly), but cynical mentality of losers (for example, notice how "all men blah blah" on feminist side is carbon copied into AWALT) stopping you from seeking a win-win situation. In the end, I think just like rad-fems and FDS, red pill is an extremist ideology that tries t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:32 PM
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but dudes be having "chiseled jawlines" and "glistening abs", bro Just having a "gay awe" for a "chad" doesn't really say anything, all men - incels or not - do this. Just being curious about dicks of other men in the showers doesn't mean you're gay. It just means you like measuring dicks. I understand why it's confusing to women though ("why he's paying attention to other men, instead of women"), as they don't really participate in a "dickwaving contest" the way men do. If you're looking for cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:54 AM
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I like this schizo leap of equating porn to action movies. Totally true and real analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:23 AM
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The weirdest part is that gay men - ie the guys who actually don't like women (like that) - are nowhere near this assblasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:13 AM
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Worrying about shit. Men IDGAF -> less emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:33 AM
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It's hard to pass judgement on either cognitive style as such, the use for this is to pin down why men are utilizing over-reductive generalizations such as AWALT (coz it works well as a system suitable to their cognitive style), or why FDS approach is what's ordinarily described as holistic (contextual, and seemingly impervious to systemization). Once you get past that wrapper, one can make inferences what common impulse lies underneath the narrative (ie some sort of chip on shoulder / entitleme…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:59 PM
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Directly linking it to sex differences is radioactive in academia, so you won't find much of stuff looking at it directly. Instead you get fun utterances between the lines, like why men with allocentric impairment end up with schizophrenia.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:19 AM
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I think both are reflective of differences in perception between sexes. That is, men gravitate towards "grand systems" described as relation of objects (content), with no relation to self - you see yourself as part of the system. This makes you prone to rationalizations, as you seek to cherry-pick a convenient system you'd pigeon hole yourself into (niceguy mentality). Women, meanwhile, have a more self-relating perception (context) of the world (popularly termed as solipsism by TRP, but that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:53 AM
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CDC. Heterosexual women are second only to gay men in rates of syphilis. They used to be dead last. This can have multitude of other explanations, eg recent 3rd world immigration waves across the southern border. Similar trends do exist in Canada and UK though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:27 AM
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woman gets a job handed to her without even having to apply. Just for your analogy to be a proper one: She's the recruiter who makes money off finding people who are seen as valuable on the job market. And no, their task isn't as trivial as it sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:14 AM
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So essentially this all depends on the axiom you start with. What your interests and criteria are. You can try to relativize common sense, but there's a point it just becomes clownish. This ain't about girl next door whos a bit chubby, this is about disgustingly fat people. There's curves and then there's feeding a fucking hippo. Men who are that pathetic to be into that are just getting off the scraps of attention from the fatty, there's no point in beating around the bush.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:03 AM
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Agree and amplify - start hitting on him.
/r/seduction18/05/24 11:36 AM
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Gender desegregation was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:16 AM
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It's just incel bait, same as height trends before it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:49 PM
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Wouldn't that imply higher empathy? Which leads to this point- It drives feminine sympathetic empathy. Masculine empathy is very different beast - it's cognitive, ie you need to have enough mental model of someone so as to picture em how they feel and wear their boots, it's not just simple sympathetic mirroring on pure emotion level. That's the presumed mechanism by which men have far less empathy for strangers compared to women for example. Or why men feel less empathetic towards self-inflicted…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:36 PM
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Women are far more sensitive to shaming (higher neuroticism as a group), that's how you get more response from them if they're made feel guilty about things. Men, meanwhile, are more arrogant / bold, and you're more likely to get "so what?" response, its harder to make em feel ashamed. Point being that men apologize less, across the board. In feminine lingo, they're less thoughtful or in feminist lingo, it's toxic masculinity and entitlement. It's how male behavior appears as crude to women, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:12 PM
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You're conflating admission and guilt / moral judgement. What you're basically saying is "they should feel ashamed, but they don't, how dare they!". I agree your moral indignation is in the right place, but this isn't normalizing anything. This is simply men having much higher bar for feeling ashamed in general, and you being outraged they don't act like women. Do you honestly want men to be apologizing for everything they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:55 PM
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I don't think men would feel shamed by this tiktok brainrot. The point of the trend is that it is bewildering to men, or rather, a lot terminally online men being woefuly unaware of how widespread the background misandry actually is. Would you leave your daughter with a bear or a man in the woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:50 PM
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Yeah, diffused feminine identity / female support matrix is definitely at play here. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing in its own right, as it allows to function as a sisterhood. Women who'd refuse to toe the party line are NLOGs and pickmes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:43 PM
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Riddle me this, how is one admitting to ones shitty behavior "excusing" it? are immediately and aggressively pummeled into the ground. If its utilizing some seriously flawed logic (such as apex fallacy in case of man vs bear), then sure. I'd not really call that as kneejerk response as is the case when womans virtue is put in question, and more towards "mansplaining" the mischaracterization.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:37 PM
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There's a very strange belief on this sub that women finding attractive men attractive is this earth shattering revelation that women are trying to keep this fact hidden Nah, that's just your own strange belief. The argument is about whether people stay in their lane or not (especially on OLD), which isn't even gendered. It never was about attractive people being attractive being "earth shattering".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:32 PM
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Women are more sensitive to shaming (higher neuroticism as a demographic), and so you get more knee-jerk response from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:20 PM
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Having your first BPD rollercoaster, huh? Don't hang on too tight, they're dime a dozen.
/r/seduction16/05/24 08:39 PM
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Warrior vs Worrier patterns are abundantly clear across all human cultures, and it's odd to ignore this aspect of evolutionary psychology in one breath, yet tout different evopsych aspects in another (let's say, hypergamy). Try to strive for some ideological consistency, people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:11 PM
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And once enough people just hodl and refuse to trade, liquidity collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:38 AM
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This is not that specific to women, but how a mark and a hustler interact. People who are easily scammed are fed a story. They then double down ("It passed all my precautions, so it must be legit, no way my superior lie detector/intellect could be wrong!") even after red flags show up. Paradoxically extremely risk averse people are easiest to con, as they tend to overestimate small risk but underestimate big ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:18 PM
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Yes. When you remove artificial sources of said standards (fe social media, sex for validation, porn) and keep it more real. Takes some discipline, so is basically impossible for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:40 PM
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This. Just because the small chivauva yaps doesn't mean the big dog is being dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:56 PM
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Real men cook the meals and do her nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:50 PM
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Fairs, lol. This is a debate sub. We're both supposed to be big bad meanie to each other. Agreeing is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:42 PM
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If I attempted to list the issues specific to men and women, someone would say I'm biased or forgot X, Y, and Z. The convo is inherently radioactive, yeah. Honestly people should just read feminist canon which for the most part argues well for both sides (say, Firestone vs Paglia). It's not even as much about what it is, but what to do about it. Clearly the liberation experiment isn't panning out as originally hoped, again, even that isn't in dispute between both camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:22 PM
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It's simply wrong argument, it has nothing to do with you (or parent?) being a woman. How would I know (or why should I care) anyway. Nobody said we pin this all on men, but as always, like to paint themselves as the victims What's the purpose of the whatabouting tangent, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:07 PM
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The point is you're going on a tangent "b-but what about things MEN do" - which has been explicitly mentioned in the OP, mind you. The whole argument is about can we pin this all on men? The feminist talking points about how bad patriarchy is, everyone knows. That narrative breaks down on timelines (basically the more you remove toxic masculinity, the more toxic feminity fills the power vacuum).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:50 AM
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Things like poor mental health services, the top 1% getting richer, soaring bills and toxic media putting unfair expectations on both genders. Agreed, but you'd need to be still concrete with the issues, not just "we live in a clown world".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:46 AM
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You don't really want to play the whatabout statistical apple-orange comparisons bigotry game. Start with sex, end with things like ethnic groups or religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:43 AM
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Decadence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:02 PM
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People don't see women as a threat, so they give her a free pass for throwing a temper tantrum. This is just how we humans are wired subconsciously, we let the weaker ones act out more coz they can't really hurt us. Smaller dog barking at a bigger non-plussed dog sort of thing. Sucks for the children (who definitely see her as a threat).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:10 PM
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Contrary to popular disney movie belief, trust isn't a black and white thing in reality. Yes, you should trust your partner, but you should also protect yourself to not be played for a fool. Reasonable people can accommodate that. If my girl asks me for a passcode of my phone, I just give it to her. I understand she generally trusts me but there might be specks of doubts, and this will in fact increase trust. If I throw a temper tantrum about how this is my phone, my kingdom, and how dare she do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:27 AM
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Someone who doesn't have sex is probably a guy I would not like. Someone who I don't like is probably sexist (guys I like are all respectful guys). It isn't that deep, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:55 PM
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Four witnesses of good moral standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:04 PM
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I'm fucking done being stoic I see, so you have a personal pet peeve with stoicism. That's fair, especially for guys with a bit shorter temper wearing that mask seems painful. People with calmer disposition don't really need it though. Why would you want that around? That's the dilemma - I feel like I'm getting punished for it, and where I am isolating myself to so few people is not really an option. It's not just in regards to the ick either, I can visibly see women feeling less secure (eg my n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:12 AM
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you have to be effeminate Being vulnerable unfortunately comes across effeminate to women (who are keen to hamster it as "trauma dumping" or some other such buzzword). There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it's a sure fire way to kill any and all attraction. I'm not really sure if its internalized or what not on their part, but I've seen it produce ick even in extremely liberal women. I’m trying to shed the toxic elements of my masculinity. Could you be more specific? I'm not really talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:46 AM
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"Internalized patriarchy" is a bit of cop out to be honest. Feminists often pride themselves in being "woke" (in old meaning of the word) about that. On paper. Yet still holding same old expectations of masculinity all the same. There are some exceptions, eg women who genuinely prefer effeminate men. Doesn't really have much to do with feminism, and more to do with one's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:19 AM
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extremely high self confidence. You mean arrogance masking the underlying low esteem. Bullying is a (maladaptive) tool to build it up, it's hard to be arrogant when you can't sell that image.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:09 AM
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This doesn't work due to a counterfactual - most of bullies clearly weren't bullies because they were successful prior to becoming bullies, meaning the opposite causality applies: Bullying helps to become successful. There's a body of research that bullying is a maladaptive strategy to being a loser (as well in popular culture, eg Nelson in Simpsons).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:06 AM
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It works as a two dimensional metric. Dark Triad = hot. Nice guy = husband material. Ofc women are primarily interested in the "husband" quality, whereas men are interested in being "hot". The confusion stems from trying to project these two axes into one dimension.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:51 AM
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No, the point is we don't know what sexual attraction actually is there. Holding hands doesn't really doesn't really tell you whether there's passion (attraction), or it's duty sex (no attraction), or dead bedroom (totally not attraction). These people can still love each other, but the "spark" is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:27 PM
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Every day I step outside of my home ... enjoying their time together. OP is specifically asking about sexual attraction, not platonic love. Does it mean you live in area where most people openly make out outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:21 PM
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In other words, NTs are pervy, whereas autistic men are obsessive. And obsessive is worse than pervy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:06 PM
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I imagine we'll import workers from countries that are having a population boom So you expect all the 3rd world countries to remain the same? As far I can tell, they're all on the same trajectory as the west (yes, even including africa), just lagging by 5-20 years. Demographic transition is primarily correlated to urbanization, and that happens all around the world, even in 3rd world shitholes. I don't really care if we die out. Dying out isn't really on the table - barbarism that follows social…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:39 AM
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How do you plan on making people of reproductive age have more kids again? Forced breeding? Banning abortion? Demographics is a logistic function, trend in each prior generation transfers into next one. Just curious how do you actually picture the population pyramid developing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:19 AM
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We got AI and handy men robots on deck, ya know? These can't do anything about demographic implosion. One can't magically reset birth rate back to 2.1 the moment median age is 50+. Once you're past the point of no return, you're there all the way. Artificial wombs, maybe, but even then it's an open question whether people will even want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:14 AM
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he will make her out to be the crazy one and no one will listen to her. "Who hurt you". Idk how many times we have to say this until the “nice guys” understand it’s a cycle of abuse. Yep. This is a more general pattern - first let some unfortune happen to them, and subsequently seek sympathy for being a victim. Victim blaming is not really nice when done in excess, but there's also something to be said about the psychology of Munchausen syndrome involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:40 PM
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Yep. This goes for any and all such "boundaries" kek.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:29 PM
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More than standard deviation above average male height (172cm -> 180cm in korea, 5'11 -> 6'2 in the US in population below 35). Only 20% of men are that tall. Whether a given society is obsessed (ie height projects stronger halo) is clearly visible in height of their politicians, celebrities and so on approaching the +1sd mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:48 PM
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Same. Sexual violence is practically absent in first world humans and the evolved paranoia of women is usually just that. Now in presence of abundant sexual violence, that's when the story is different - violence is basically the male half of sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:44 AM
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It exists everywhere to some extent, but only places like US or South Korea make it a point of obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:35 AM
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There's definitely angle of pressure in terms of social matrix (think working class vs ivy league segregation in the US), but the rules are too loose to make it into oppressive selective breeding. Caving in to social pressure is your choice after all, too. I would argue that it's at the point where women are ashamed to bear short sons. Yes. It mostly correlates with how heigh-obsessed the entire society is. Think average % height of politicians in the US vs in say, Taiwan or even Netherlands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:30 AM
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Which is essentially what these women are doing, right? Eugenics is understood as being socially enforced - neutering "lesser" groups, caste systems and so on. It's not just mere individual choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:26 AM
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and people still call them "victims" This isn't really unique to women. Plenty of guys buy into obvious Ponzi schemes and subsequently become"victims" once it folds. Yes, they're victims of their own greed - or lust - but victims nonetheless. The crowd will always throw the stone at the conman which may not make sense in the abstract, but it's quite practical to do so - it makes it so that the world isn't filled to the brim with conmen, they lay at the outskirts of society (unless they're rich).
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 05:24 PM
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Think of the usual dynamic in bay area. It's not like her job would be something most guys would have trouble with per se ... it's just the general trouble of finding dateable guys. This plays especially contrary to she would want him to get on her level. Fuck no. A lot STEM chicks date anything from lumberjack himbos to loser musicians, simply coz those guys got some swag compared to the usual dudes in her socioeconomic bubble. She's the last person to care about being "on the same level" bulls…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:10 PM
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Yep. In music production we have a saying - there are no male muses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:59 AM
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Few specific professions - therapists, schoolteachers, career academics in humanities, HR karens - all leave an evident mark on women making them borderline undateable. Anything else? Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:53 AM
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The trouble with STEM is that 99% of guys around you are unfuckable autistic dweebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:47 AM
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Have a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:10 PM
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It's the r/antiwork effect. Are poor people really "struggling"? All the homeless people, where are you? Apparently most people out there can afford to pay rent, quit your whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:20 AM
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He was one of her ONLY friends and he was her best friend for 2 years. Guess they both learned their lesson. Man and woman can be good friends, but it's impossible for them to be best friends. I don't think Nice Guys are actually THAT common, but they do exist. You see them often orbiting girls of "particular" character disposition, especially if she has no female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:06 AM
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It's a bad idea to take what books are popularly published and bought as evidence for who's interested in writing what It's more about who's reading what, as that is what imprints as aspirations on future authors. The mainstream market certainly isn't female in terms of who reads the books, which is a different matter. It's dominated by women both as readers and writers. Just because hugo awards and what not is all male nerds who made it from the closet doesn't mean people actually read any of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:33 AM
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I'm talking about fanfiction You mean slash fiction. Yea, guys do that sort of porn too, in their typical way where it devolves into a myriad of degenerate fetishes. I still don't see your point, these things are very obviously sex-segregated in the first place. Do you really want AOOO tier my immortal fanfics fused with MLP porn that badly? You have no idea what sort of eldritch horrors of porn you're summoning here. In terms of the more mainstream content you're discussing there's just differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:35 AM
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How about things like media, you're aware that the obsessive fanfiction writers are pretty much all female? Erotica is pretty interesting topic, in that its split between sexes pretty starkly with little overlap. Men are largely uninterested in women's porn though (as it's incredibly bland), and vice versa (porn done by men is excessively graphic and weird). This sentiment translates across all of literature, where women absolutely dominate the mainstream with YA, mystery and romance schlock, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:22 AM
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crafts or something It's immensely popular, and hardly a fringe. Indeed you won't find many men into that sort of thing, just like most women aren't into spectator sports - a popular thing for the opposite sex. This isn't about what is male or female dominated hobby, but that women simply don't exist in fringe niches of gender neutral hobbies, and therefore don't associate with nerds for the most part. To illustrate this on desk games - for as long you stay in the mainstream - say, sunday Monopo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:58 AM
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The argument isn't as much about which pill is the "true" or "false" one, but which one of the competing narratives are gaining currency as the social overton shifts. Eg bluepill is becoming visibly less relevant as social fabric becomes increasingly atomized, giving more room to black pill/pink pill and such. Christpill/whitepill et al is more of a separate category of copepills living on the fringes. People run there as they get fed up with whats in the mainstream and that's great, but are als…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:17 AM
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Isn't christianity something like 2 billion-strong circlejerk? Shit's bigger than anime :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:49 PM
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niche music I'd struggle to call the scene niche as such. The sound systems, producers and DJs are, but the underground events as such are still massive. But that aside, it is a very situationship kind of event, you can't really go out cold after women, you ARE 100% guaranteed to see them again. Sure, I'm not talking about casual hookups, just people being promiscuous af. Whenever a lot of drugs is involved, so is "free love".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:47 PM
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but raves are much less of a fuckfest than people give it credit to be. I suppose depends how much of a drunken sailor a given raver scene is. The harder the music, the less impulse control of people in there. Great for promiscuous hookups (for as long you don't mind gonorrhea), but otherwise a lot of unstable people around, with horrible lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:32 PM
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NICHEMAXXING IS KING Nichemaxxing refers to fitting a certain mainstream trope (raver, surfer guy, e-boy etc), wearing it like a popular fashion style. If you go anywhere near an actual niche, the ratio of women to men drops drastically. Women simply don't occupy unpopular fringes, so the math of "chad of the nerds" doesn't work out particularly well due to the massive sausage fest. lots of experience in the scene Is that an euphemism for a plug?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:22 PM
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higher caloric expenditures due to the stress Try meth/ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:12 PM
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That's why there's self-aware and unaware in cluster b. You don't need to be some plotting psycho, that is more of a Hollywood take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:08 PM
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what the girls would always say? People do that when they're guarded, afraid to be judged. The whole point of truth or dare style of chat is the "I'll show what a degenerate I am, you try to one-up me" rapport. It's really not that hard. Could be just a cultural thing.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 07:34 PM
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No woman will ever tell you the truth about any of this Someone didn't play truth or dare in elementary school. A lot of women have no trouble spilling the beans about their ho phase during regular chitchat. Though you're right they're less inclined to do so in front of their boyfriends (for a good reason).
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 07:28 PM
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This is completely off the cuff, no edits except for correcting truly unreadable shit, so if you made it to the end, you're a real G. Man, the eloquence of these school shooter manifestos sure is improving. But if you are neurodivergent, can you really keep up the charade for your whole life? I've started perma sperging-out early teens onward. Punk kid, drugs, petty tough guy "gang" shit. If you're gonna be a loser outcast, you'd better be one all the way, none of this cool guy mask shit until y…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:34 AM
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Silly non-sequiturs are hit or miss TBH, I'm probably making it too off the wall to land. Better luck with tardy variants on widespread tiktok memes. Fe "you wouldn't date female version, lower your standards" ... with faceapp edit of my dog.
/r/seduction27/06/23 03:21 PM
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Ok, Alpha.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 08:38 PM
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Go visit Sweden sometime. Make state be the provider, problem fixed ezpz.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:32 PM
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I know dudes who threw punches at depositions and were proud of that reputation Hey, if this sort of intimidation works in court, one can respect the hustle (i presume prosecutor's cops must be especially lovely bunch). But ye, in the hospital you could see male patients raging too. Trouble is the volume to quantity ratio. While a man will rage and destroy the room somewhere once a week maybe, karens throwing hissy fits and catfights about retarded shit was nearly a constant occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:56 PM
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female dominant jobs are frequently expected to maintain composure compared to male dominated jobs I've worked as a male nurse in hospital for almost 2 years. This is some S-class feminazi reality warping. It's true that when men rage, they're genuinely dangerous - and when women walk on eggshells in face of that, I can certainly see how that can be emotionally laborous. But as for who's frequently hysterical and losing composure outside of fawn response, the stereotypes are here for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:58 PM
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I’ve literally done today is to provide my partner a checklist (that he asked for) of chores that need to be done while I’m away for a week So, nagging in other words. j/k Good for him for at least asking you for one, took me years to develop that habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:55 PM
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Eastern Europe With bar tabs, there's a social dance around it - the default is to pay for everything as a guy, but she can insist on her paying for her own drinks. At which point you're expected to "convince her" that you're indeed paying her drinks. Or not, if she's in fact making a statement "i don't need your money" (the stronk independent types). This sort of ambiguity permeates into all of casual flirting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:46 PM
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“keep your turf” Traditional gender roles. The whole point is that those are clear cut, and enforced by social pressure and custom, for better or worse. There's of course downsides - you're forced to play the given roles, even if it gets awkward at times. The upside is a lot of micromanaging and constant re-negotiation of "what do YOU bring to the table?" bullshit goes away. power play or submitting aspect I just don't get this whole "submitting" feminism is obsessed with (are they into BDSM?). …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:27 PM
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who has the last word If the argument gets that far, then the division of responsibilities in the relationship wasn't all that clear to begin with. I agree that these arguments do happen often, but if there's unwillingness to "keep your turf", the seeds of resentment are probably sown irreparably. A canonical example: Man makes the money, woman has full discretion to spend it. Then the guy develops a gambling addiction or a drinking problem, siphoning off 3/4 of the income to his new hobby, argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:53 PM
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women should follow and men should lead It's a base for "woman chooses interior decoration and the man shuts up, man fixes the car tire and she shuts up". Sure strict roles like that is not a good fit for everyone, and more power to you. But consider what literally the 90% of human race are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:24 PM
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As I said: Incels, terpers and feminists tend to frame "trad wives" as what you said pretty much exclusively. Presumably because it generates the most attention (in case of feminists or terper gurus) and/or due to bitterness in case of incels. It has no bearing on what traditional views on women are, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:28 AM
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In a traditional setting, there are simply prescribed ways each side is supposed to do, and will receive respect for. Things get noticeably more complex in liberal settings, where people are supposed to figure it all out for themselves. Not saying that can't be done, but naive notions such as "power dynamic" certainly ain't helping. She has the power to divorce me and take the kids. I have the power to make more money and she may feel threatened by it, just like I feel threatened about the divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:13 AM
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less capable, less mature, more easily swayed and what not The curious thing is that it's basically only terpers and radical feminists projecting that image. Whereas the more traditional types will respect the woman for what woman (traditionally) should do. Just as man will be respected for what he should (traditionally) be doing. You can certainly argue which parts should be what in complementarity feminism, but this whole "if genders are different, slippery slope to handmaid's tale, duhhhhhhhh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:33 AM
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If you're excessively worried about "feeling disrespected" and "not wanting to be submissive", it's most likely because you don't have high opinion of yourself. All of this is just first world mental health problem bullshit. All you need is a little bit of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:26 AM
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And it's easy to let go of provided that you are capable of accepting the reality you're in. I agree that there's a huge factor where most women are forced to compartmentalize feelings more because they're constantly exposed to barrage of male attention. By sheer experience they're much better at dealing with stuff like that, including fuckzone cost/benefit analysis when they're orbiting etc. A lot of men (ie friendzoned simps) are never exposed to anything of the magnitude women are, so they fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:48 AM
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Uncharacteristically sane take for PPD, on purge week no less lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:43 AM
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this whole argument that women were chattel is really annoying Feminists who are like that are hot tho. The moment she goes on this spiel you pretty much know for a fact that's her fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:23 AM
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I’m saying that certain rhetoric and media and groups exacerbate the bad behavior of those people. It's a popular liberal narrative, but largely ignorant of how propaganda works. For any given narrative to be effective, it needs to be collectively enforced. Doesn't matter if its fascism, corporate ethics or real world misogyny. Without peer pressure, narratives are about as radicalizing as violent video games, for vast majority of people except severely neurodivergent. hate groups or who use the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:19 AM
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It’s not profiling LMAO. Not only you're profiling, but in the wrong direction too. A profile of lone wolf shooter will indeed be some sort of incel in the US. That doesn't mean if you somehow get rid of incel ideology, those shooters will magically disappear, though. It's about as preposterous as trying to ban gangsta rap (we did arguably, by making it too fake and mainstream). Gang violence would just move to drill. Profiling only tells you that any given perpetrator belongs to the profiled gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:41 AM
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Why would we dismiss online hate that statistically had been correlated with acting out? Because it's profiling, and extremely shoddy (as in, twitter outrage driven) one at that. How many of those school shooters and incelibate murderers had manifestos? Online videos they made? The causative agent here is alienation, not ideology as such. We know this because if anything you say were true, the violence would scale linearly with spread of incel or alt-right ideologies, but it doesn't (where are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:46 AM
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just because they make misogynist statements rather we should wait for them to actually do something misogynist irl My opinion on this is path of deradicalization, rather than pushing em further to the extreme on account of banality like edgelord online speech (attempts to exclude on this basis only radicalizes em further). Sure the speech hurts feelings of some people, but is for the most part victimless here, since it happens in closed space anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:29 AM
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Again, do you genuinely believe incels spew their bile IRL, you know, where it actually affects people? I think argument could be made for the likes of Andrew Tate as well most of rap artists. That's no longer bunch of autists venting on some obscure forums, that's popular culture casually propagating in everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:46 AM
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How many incels you think really act that way in real life? That's the trouble with unhinged online spaces, people vent their bile, but are too much of cowards to translate that into hatred and actual aversion. Misogyny is something that people actually do, not just say in their internet hugbox. It's the same thing why twitter activism doesn't work - some people act insane online, but very very few actually feel so strongly to do something. There are definitely few who progress that far, and tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:31 AM
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Here, have a womanhating welcome basket from Weininger and Schopenhauer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:49 AM
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I'd say I hear poor rhetorics from both ends, only the styles are different. Redpillers tend to do biased sampling (women on tinder vs women more generally for things like AWALT). Bluepillers are indeed prone to arguing anecdotes vs the generality put forth, as well as various forms of deflection. It feels like it's more of a result of just being defensive - they feel personally attacked, and so they knee-jerk with personal reply. Motte/Bailey is more bad faith, where you construct it like that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:35 AM
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Where's the contradiction? Libertarians are pretty on board with wife-slave markets.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:51 AM
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THIS IS A RED AND BLUE HATE PLACE
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:45 AM
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It's pretty much just genderswapped feminism: > strongwoman needs no man > constantly talking about men doing this, not doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:19 AM
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Bullies, no matter how ugly, always had a girl. Redpillers, PPD and feminists can be autistic about it all they want, while the grass outside will do its own thing. Calling incels "misogynists" is hilarious. Most of those guys don't really have it in them to act on their bitterness outside of the internet. Just like the guy in that blog. He's doing exact same thing as them, just using softer language for his impotent whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:53 AM
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not new mommy, sex doll, or live in maid Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:31 AM
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Sure it's purge week, but your transphobia is uncalled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:33 PM
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The post-Tate/Whatever YT redpiller grift is getting pretty insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:16 PM
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Depends. Are we talking femme fatale straightforward, or karen straightforward? Being self-assured can sure be hot, but being arrogant douche can sure ruin it. I don't think this sort of thing is even gendered.
/r/seduction14/06/23 05:54 PM
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Is "being a man" really that much of unrealistic expectation? I get that it doesn't make sense in androgynous "we're all equal" framework, but why are you using that nonsense to begin with?
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 11:36 PM
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There's a saying in credit industry: Don't look at how many credit cards the woman has, look at the credit worthiness of the ACH wires settling up her CC bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:14 PM
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This reads like highly speculative incelish wishful thinking. The only thing I do agree with is online sex "work" becoming very different landscape, as titty streamers will be forced to be more enticing than simple softcore porn that's becoming too trivial for AI to emulate. More or less just expect hos returning to the streets where they belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:57 PM
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but how valueable young, pretty white women are as an object of utilization Yes, the pedestal is rooted in how both sexes are positively biased towards young and attractive women. I never said this is result of feminism, my point is that this bias is apolitical and very deeply rooted in all human cultures. And that feminists, especially younger ones, aren't particularly on board to counter this bias, but instead tend to rely on being heard more as victims thanks to the bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:11 PM
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. Fuck "missing white woman" syndrome, it's a product of patriarchy, not intersectional feminism. The syndrome is real in that it is innate expression of apolitical bias. No matter how woke or MAGA you are, both groups will express it all the same. Similar effect is present with liberal NIMBYs vs explicit racism of conservatives. I'll grant that some liberals are aware of this, however as far as mass mainstream politics is concerned (ie "status quo"), it's basically about how you slice this lip …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:57 PM
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Both CNN and Fox news suffer from "missing white woman syndrome" as well notions that men should pull themselves by bootstraps more. What differs is just political talking points how to go about it and which constituency they pander to. Sex (and even racial) biases are rooted too deep, way beyond the resolution of simple left/right wing political grift. Status quo bias is to patronize women, left/right differs only in ways to accomplish this bias. Whereas Tate/Incel position is contrary to that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:41 PM
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Do you genuinely believe the likes of Andrew Tate or Alex Jones represent the interests of status quo? I'm well aware of far left notion of "whoever isn't far left is a reactionary and somehow status quo at the same time". However that's more of a tribalist bastardization of semantics resulting in a non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:24 PM
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You seem to be conflating status-quo ("normalized") vs reactionary ("vocal minority", ie incels) politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:35 PM
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This. It's pretty rich for gender role policing to come from a feminist, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:58 AM
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Where does it say men aren't attracted to girl boss? Moreover, why are you splitting hair? We both know the stereotype, cut the bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:57 PM
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social butterfly and witty are masculine traits? what? OP phrases it in weirdly feminine POV, but I think they mean 'social capital' or 'clout'. Which can mean the funny popular guys at times, but not necessarily. Anything that makes you a lot of other guys listen to you will do. Power like this is certainly more of a masculine quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:17 PM
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Single female MBA students hid their ambition on questionnaires when they expected male classmates to see their answers. Where does it exactly say "men are intimidated by girlboss?". You can certainly speculate it from the above quote, but do note that women do this even in front of each other, when men are out of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:12 PM
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by asking about their career, goals, family, friends, life etc Dunno, when people are exceedingly prying in a "do you have some important shit going on" direction, I don't really see the difference. It still brings the same "dance monkey, dance" feel, and using feminine passive-aggressive voice for it doesn't really help. It's not really about how it's said, but about the intent behind it. Are they just curious, or measuring me up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:29 PM
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Not really offensive, just cringey. It's typically socially stunted people (ie key TikTok audiences) who would need to frame a relationship like this. It just signals inability to recognize (nor empathize with) what it is others bring, so they need to ask in the explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:21 PM
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Compliments. Don't ask what they bring to the table, but simply recognize whatever it is they do bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:16 PM
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Sir, this is a polycule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:09 PM
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Competitive doesn't necessarily mean just being a salty bitch. It can be also just a drive to do better, and respecting those who did better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 10:16 PM
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is it not a turn off if your woman can be distracted so easily? Pretty much. A lot of this rhetoric boils down to guys being under the foot of a literal ho, but dating (or having the idea of doing so?) a ho in the first place is kinda on em.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:22 AM
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it makes that man feel like he's less attractive than those other men I feel like this is more of a terminally online strawman. Past certain age you simply grow up and stop comparing yourself to others in this fashion as a man. If you want to be a functioning adult anyway. What makes sluts undateable is their cheapening of the emotional connection. You can tell a girl is a ho if her side of emotional investment is completely flat. She's seen it all, men that is, and that's it, she doesn't care, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 03:04 AM
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Don't approach emotionally stunted tiktok audiences, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:20 PM
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SEND BOBS
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 08:09 AM
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Temporarily embarrassed chad vs beta uprising wannabe.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 05:51 AM
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Only if you can get it up.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 05:28 AM
1

Porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:57 AM
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This premise doesn't work because most women devalue their exes. Ie current bf is the "100% prince", after that he's "abusive ex bf".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:17 AM
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Men on the red pill, Facebook, tiktok, and 4chan and other manosphere spaces. I presume some people hang around these places they hate so as to be outraged, and not just morbidly curious about internet weirdos and catty celebrity gossip. Which is fine, a lot of these places are explicitly designed (twitter, tiktok and instagram especially) to feed ragebait and trigger insecurity in terminally online people addicted to consuming it. Doesn't mean it's at all representative of what's out there. MEN…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:21 PM
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Men I doubt that it's "the men" telling that. Now hollywood, social media spaces and magazines directed at women are indeed in the business of selling women their own insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:30 AM
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False dilemma. These two things aren't mutually exclusive, but terminally online niceguys and some women on reddit alike seem to truly believe it's either-or.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:14 AM
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You mean regular internet? Or is anything "not reddit, tiktok, facebook, youtube or instagram" really dark web now lol.
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 03:11 AM
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Do they need to, tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:33 PM
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Only if I'd be having a meth problem as well. Assortative mating, aye?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:57 PM
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This. It's not as much about "would you date", but "would you tolerate once you find out" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:55 PM
1

You just hwve preference for it
/r/AllPillDebate05/03/23 08:19 PM
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it's why heart shape is the most common in both sexes in anime. For anime, the canon aesthetic is cat face (cute, neotenous) and wolf face (masculine v-shape) trace lines. Those are used interchangeably depending on trope the character is pigeonholed into. Yandere will be masc face, whereas klutz moeblob will be overwhelmingly feminine. That said, anime is pretty far removed IRL. If neoteny really were a thing as you say, it would most notably manifest in petite height and round faces, both are …
/r/AllPillDebate05/03/23 08:16 PM
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prettyboys, models These guys are not neotenous (neotenous round face = cutecel), merely metrosexual superstimuli where you justaxpose exaggerated masculine features like height, v-shape, jawline against the rest being "soft" aesthetic to make it approachable and less threatening, thus easier to sexualize for women. This has always been a bit of a fetish for teenage demographic, hollywood and more recently kpop.
/r/AllPillDebate05/03/23 08:04 PM
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I don't particularly care about N, but I do try to figure out whether she's a ho or not. Obviously something you can't really ask point blank, but there's a lot to be seen between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 05:22 AM
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That trad ship has sailed quite a long while ago. Besides, another old popular story is that of Casa Nova and Don Juan.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:35 PM
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Ye I expect the landscape to get real weird once more after zoomers get into their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:28 PM
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Isn't this just "MGTOW is right because I say so", in so many words? What exactly is your view you want challenged? that's to go after extremely unattractive women. For ONS maybe, for relationship its more murky waters. Ugly people tend to be bitter about opposite sex due to a string of failed "relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:20 AM
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do you actually not want to date women in their 30s? No. are you biased against women your own age? Yes. 30s is attractive and fit and that she is single at this age because she was late bloomer Exception, not the rule. Skin ruined by years of tanning. Single mom most of the time, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:17 AM
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Peak emotional skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:06 AM
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Fun to ride, but embarrassing to be seen with in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:58 PM
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also at age 60 there is only a 3% difference in rate of child bearing between men and women so just keep at it ig? Aka the real wall, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:21 AM
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Unfortunately incels have a very hard time empathizing with being a scooter, since they never were one. I think its sad, incels and femcels both have a predicament that can allow for a lot of mutual insight. Instead, they for the most part just hate on each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:14 AM
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I think nichemaxxing is sorta of a concept in incelsphere, but definitely needs to be more popular one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:12 AM
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> That platonic love for gigachad in the air allowing men to sit in the cuck chair. Meanwhile, prettyboy can't be respected as a man, so it's an abomination.
/r/AllPillDebate25/02/23 01:03 AM
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The natural birth rate disparity is about 5% more men. It contributes for sure, but isn't really a major component here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:43 PM
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P R I M E R I M E
/r/AllPillDebate22/02/23 05:03 PM
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Seems equal to me.
/r/AllPillDebate20/02/23 06:58 PM
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What I'm saying that breaking up with guys like that for the span of 15 years is the treadmill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:24 PM
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At some point you need to commit to something instead of just running on a treadmill though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:14 PM
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Like criminals? Incels, losers, certain types of criminals... Bottom of the society most women would typically label as "creepy". But I will admit sometimes women have to speak up against other women Therein lies the fundamental. What men do is build hierarchies of control - the better man is above the lesser man, ergo, this is what our various "patriarchal" dick measuring contests are all about. Such a social game is profoundly alien to women and most have a very poor read on it - women prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:16 PM
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protected from what exactly? Other (less desirable) men. OP seems to be confused by it, but this is ultimately the pet peeve the "toxic masculinity" crowd is voicing - "man as a solution to a problem man has made" (cue "men should take responsibility for" etc etc). Needless to say, such sentiments arise largely due ignorance - most women rarely, if ever, have to go face-to-face with men in a competition. It's easy to denounce conflict with "boys are so stupid lol" when you're never thrust into a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:03 PM
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Women are judged according to the sort of men who are trying to "get" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:51 PM
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weighing things up with what they know about that person. Here's how this works: If you're positively biased, you'll be the "defender" camp, ie assume its made up bullshit even if its true. If you're negatively biased, you'll be the "finder of truth" camp, ie more likely to believe bullshit if the report is false. Online sleuthing is always a massive shitshow. It can be done once you get enough people, and enough autism (ie kiwifarms). But even then you have to be very careful with what you beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:32 PM
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It's the same reason why cancel culture has such a bad rap. Person 1 makes shit up about person X. Person 2,3,4,5 wants to be the samaritan for god knows why and warn others about X due to second hand info from person 1. It's neigh impossible to make anonymous gossip virtuous. It's perfectly fine to gossip about people you know, with people you know. But trust a stranger, or gossip about a stranger, and you'll end up drowning in bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:18 PM
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What if it had to be highly moderated though? It's tricky because a lot of of people don't really break up particularly amicably when it comes to relatively short relationships where people would want to use such a thing in the first place. Only longer relationship breakups tend to be more amicable. if you make any strong accusations you must have proof When someone has a "proof" (read: kompro) and are invested in using it - they'll use it, regardless of whether such a system exists or not. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:08 PM
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if 5 guys all commented that this one girl tries to bring her mother along on a date you know to avoid You gals have the weirdest ideas about what men would consider hangups, lol. We do gossip in this regard the same way you do, but the hangups are very different - it's basically only whether she's crazy, slut or a cock tease. Her mom on the date? Goofy, but far from a showstopper like it would be with a dude bringing a mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:55 PM
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At least yelp does positive reviews too, so the bias evens out. With dating, positive reviews (from strangers) are super awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:50 PM
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It's a magnet for crazies - few people can do a lot of damage. Since there's no accountability whatsoever, you get false accusations on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:44 PM
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Yup. In my country we have had such a facebook page for years. It's full of jilted women trying to cockblock their ex/fling. Stories about how he's "abusive" are rampant on there, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:41 PM
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100% agree about "caretaker mode". That said, Do you think this is really happening in progressive places like germany and finland. How does this factor into man showing vulnerability. Is it really so surprising to women men prefer to avoid doing that in front of em, since it becomes "trauma dumping" and "emotional labor" all too easily? My theory on it is that when living together, the caretaker mode activates no matter what the man does. If he refuses to be "taken care of" by the woman - for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:28 PM
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Same as how men are responsible for woman's pay (pay gap, orgasm gap... there's a pattern)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 08:18 PM
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tl;dr: Turns out coolidge effect was just a wahman's slander and projection on men all along, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 12:49 AM
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ULTRA
/r/AllPillDebate29/01/23 08:07 AM
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It's why most people don't really use OLD, and prefer social media DM sliding - it's far more functional for branding/visibility, instead aggressively marketing snake oil down the throat of people who don't necessarily have a shopping addiction. the first thing you need to do is take better pictures and redo your profile If you have a hard time selling healing crystals and essential oils, is it because you spend too little on adsense, or is it because you're peddling bullshit nobody is intereste…
/r/AllPillDebate29/01/23 02:05 AM
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Consoom brain. Point me at an ad actually offering a good deal. I suppose you're mistaking advertising for visibility. Visibility is important so that people who want to find you can actually find you. It carries far lower signaling cost for everyone involved than advertising though.
/r/AllPillDebate29/01/23 01:53 AM
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Fucking self-contradicting communists contributing to capitalism because they want shit, amirite?
/r/AllPillDebate28/01/23 09:44 PM
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Yep. You need marketing only to sell something people don't want in the first place. It's the desperation which makes it hilarious. Please give me 8 selfie profile pics anytime. At least those are honest about one being self-absorbed.
/r/AllPillDebate28/01/23 09:34 PM
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What could've been done? The genie is out, in any society with sufficient development that has to compete on global market, they can't chain their women to a kid in the kitchen. When they do so, they'll remain a 3rd world shithole. The world as a society has decided we'll no longer do separation of production of services/goods and family between genders by a social decree. Now it's just production of services/goods by both genders. But I'd not bother with any blame game here, this has been a col…
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 03:04 AM
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SAHM.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 02:51 AM
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Point is, you don't really need any of this to ruin your demographics. All you need to do is remove expectation of women having a family and bam. It's like magic, no matter which culture.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 02:46 AM
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This started in the early 80s. When women were given opportunity to opt out, they for the most part did so, which broke the whole sararyman deal in turn. Ubertrad cultures tend to hit the wall hard, as opposed to slow transition. Similar "unexpected" thing happened in Saudi Arabia.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 02:43 AM
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standing female that he can make submit, Dunno, am not all that sold on the power-play RP stuff tbh. It's more like, bitch, learn to drive, I won't drive you around because you're "submissive", you're just lazy lol. And if she really were submissive, she'd just do it assured by those words alone, no bullshitting about how she's scared to drive and basically quadriplegic.
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 11:02 PM
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Indeed, just pretending you care about and agree with all their bullshit coz you want their peepee/veevee/whatever ain't really submissive, but superficial charm. Legit submission runs much deeper. It's not mere daddy issues (to make daddy like you - super common), but there's also implicit trust and deferred accountability (uber rare).
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 10:50 PM
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K, now do the one on "The Implication" and LMR.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:39 PM
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IMO it's perfectly fine to babysit submissive blob of a woman or whatever if that's your jam, the weird thing is how incels lack the personality to complement it. Not even Madonna-Whore, Mom-Whore or something? Freud would have a field day with this one.
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 10:28 PM
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Whew, the hamsters gymnastics *cels can do for revenge fantasies never cease to amaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:01 PM
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in the extreme circles there’s talk of genocide of women and camps for the rest I think you mistook the dark incel plot to enslave women #135235235 for dark incel plot to genocide women #135235235.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:59 PM
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pErSonAliTy You make it sound as if only women were doing this. Most of simps going into debt for a twitch e-thot will tell you the same, it's totally her personality and they're in it for the "plot". If there's gaslighting going on, it's gaslighting oneself first and foremost (ie delusion). Given the sex ratio of simps, I'd wager men are much blinder to stacy's halo than vice versa.
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 08:25 PM
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Chill out, boomer yoda. The trouble with you trite tree huggers is the patronizing tone (because you evidently didn't live by it, and come merely from a position of regret, not really something that counts for "wisdom"). In retrospect, beeing yourself ain't that much of a bad thing, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:58 PM
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> imagine getting bullied by a girl Truly a soyciety.
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 09:36 AM
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Forrest Gump has ruined an entire generation of reddit autismos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:20 AM
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Shitposting aside, it works a lot like tiddy sizes. Some ethnicities are bigger on average, some smaller, point being, nobody really gives that much of a shit about it aside from gay hollywood propaganda.
/r/AllPillDebate18/01/23 07:25 PM
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The average penis size of the Chinese is 4.3 inches. Just say it out loud - you're attracted to microjeeb, lol.
/r/AllPillDebate18/01/23 07:17 PM
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Yep. It dates back to the BBC.
/r/AllPillDebate18/01/23 06:50 PM
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horny The official party line is that men get addicted to porn because they hate women ("objectifying").
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:48 PM
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K-pop is now what "nerdy" was 15 years ago of Daniel Jackson SG-1 or Harry Potter. The aesthetic trope is fetishized, but it can carry uggos only as far. It's like a landwhale cosplaying in a sailor suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:42 AM
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someone who knows what she wants like this. That's a very charitable take on cluster-b personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:43 PM
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Imagine being told "you're such a cute, easy to manipulate doofus" by a WAHMAN. Srs tho, it's more of an issue of easily pussywhipped men who are all too desperate to say "yes". Only do that if you're sure enough of yourself to stand your ground. In any partnership commitment, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:22 PM
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Ngl, your obsession kinda creeps me out. It's true ER is kind of an archetype for "it's your personality". However implying that most incels are actually school shooting sons of film directors in LA, that's a bit stretching your LARP-dating-an-upperclass-douche-incel fantasy, don't you think?
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 02:07 PM
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It's macabre, but the reality of ER having weirdo weeaboo fangirls only posthumously is the most amusing on multiple levels. Infamous, hybristophilia, all the blackpill/incel checkmarks. Plus doing what he did is the only thing of note to get any poon, not sure if that was intent. I didn't read his manifesto, but you sound like an expert, didn't he sperg about how asian girls don't like him either or something to that effect? Or is he genuinely the femcel archetype for "he only wants 200cm Victo…
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 02:00 PM
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Hapa with horrible upbringing. You're too specific, but I'm sure you'd find few fine specimens of supreme gentlemen on r/asianmasculinity.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 01:55 PM
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True. Most guys definitely went thru a fat gf phase, if only to lead her on as a scooter. The whole discounting it as even an option is weird.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 01:53 PM
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I mean it's safe to assume reddit is just full of dweeb weirdo men, and insane women. Not exactly hot shots in dating department. Such a preselected demographic is closer to the janitor than 5/10 average joe schmoe imo.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 01:49 PM
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devoted, beautiful, blond, blue eyed, naive 18 year old cheerleader with the body of a porn star. Aka not a landwhale.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 01:46 PM
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5/10 guys reddit Doubt.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 01:45 PM
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Nah, Leykis actually was a talented shock jock. There were many like him all the way back to early 80s, especially stand up. I'v'e tried few of Tate's rant podcasts. I don't see the appeal, it's pure garbage, even by low standards for RP content. I suppose the swag flash and rabidly seeking notoriety is all that one needs?
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 10:47 AM
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if you have to lie to get what you want do you really need it ?? In business, we call such people sales rep. And your question is of course only rhetorical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:40 AM
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People understand only on surface. To give an example, when women talk about something it's long winded rant filled with detail about how they or some other people felt. Meanwhile, men describe things matter-of-factly, "detached". This is a core difference in cognitive style, one is concerned with relationships between objects in the world, whereas other is concern about the objects as such. Whenever a woman complains to me that I'm mansplaining (objects), instead of just "listening" (meaning, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:22 PM
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Same deal as women who are all like "men don't understand themselves". It's pure projected nonsense. What they really mean is "expect the opposite sex to be completely clueless about your own perspective". Each sex has far more insight into what their sex is doing, by definition it's trivial to empathize with whatever you're very "personally" in touch with. The fact that both sexes use almost diametrally opposed cognitive style to self-describe doesn't exactly help in mutual understanding. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:58 PM
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JUST PRINT MORE LIKE YOU CAN PRINT MORE WAHMEN lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:56 PM
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shut themselves down about what they actually like I feel like nerdy is whatever is unfashionable to the public at large - that's why its inevitably mark of a loser. Having a horrible fashion sense is nerdy. Not using social media is nerdy. A lot of subreddits seem to be huge nerds. Anything that makes a normie go all "say what? lol". It's not really a question of what it is, but how "uncool" it is. If you have to hide your "weird" hobby, it's what makes it nerdy in the first place. Nobody will …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:53 PM
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Not really. The chasm between sexes is immense. Women tend to make a lot of assumptions about emotional life of a man by presupposing he's a woman ("why is he so emotionally closed off?"). This is obviously completely off mark, but at least it's a desire to empathize, though going about it in completely misguided way. At least they can see something sometimes. Meanwhile, most men consider women completely inscrutable, ie don't even really bother empathizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:41 PM
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I'd say women understand men to an extent, to be able to tard wrangle a lot of em. Which is to say, they understand men far more than most men understand women in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:24 PM
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Fuck, talk about a laundry list. Guess men took the whole modern meme "be more like women" too seriously lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:15 PM
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The only real red flag is you thinking about red flags (read: made up, post-hoc reasoned bullshit) whenever you're not attracted in the first place. gas-lighter, monkey-brancher, cheaters, and abusers These all sound like made-up words.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:13 PM
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What the hell is up with "gaming" being a mark of a nerd these days? Literally everyone is a nerd or what? Granted, the rocks collection is kinda sus. Let's spell out what being a nerd is for what it is: A loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:05 PM
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There's enough money for everybody twice over, yet somehow only very few people end up with any. MIND BOGGLES
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:53 PM
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Right. tfw no master race of armor skin men, because femoids apparently don't like it
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 08:32 PM
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implying autism is dysgenic I think the more interesting one is schizotypy and ADHD being y-linked to an extent. cardiovascular y-link Inconclusive. It's worth noting that by "genetic disease", we're talking about hard mutations in conserved somatype. With yDNA, what you really get is euchromatin variance pushing something somewhere too hard to get a sperg or a schizo. While SNPs do occurs for the little coding that is there, but it's usually so debilating in no shape could be considered dysgeni…
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 08:08 PM
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You could just stop being a fucking weeb and cut on ur fujoshi habit. t. oldfag who quit anime and porn years ago dispensing unsolicited boomer advice
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 06:33 PM
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thirst trapping like a boss Congrats, you're a foids and not a landwhale (azn hapa?). You have the opportunity to choose.
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 06:27 PM
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Lmg, you're a foid built like a tank. Makes sense to sprinkle your lineage with some cutie k-pop boi neoteny again to reverse the trend.
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 06:25 PM
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Shitposting aside, that's really a thing I've noticed too. Tall and looking old. Like dude 20yo dude looking 35. Fisherian runaway does the weirdest things.
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 06:11 PM
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read technical literature Do people really do that when the internet exists? Rick Riordan and Harry Potter Yep. The stereotypal arthoe is that of young adult schlock well beyond the age of "young". majorly in non fiction My favourite genre is "unreliable non-fiction", ie where people can't legitimately tell what genre it is. Thomas Pynchon (THE INCEL CHAD) or Camille Paglia (SHE'S A WITCH, A WITCH I TELL YOU) come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:05 PM
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also they come from the ''paternal'' side Dysgenics means proliferation of X-linked risk alleles. There are no Y linked genetic diseases. Fucking foids can't do anything right, lol.
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 05:54 PM
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sign of immaturity when people have children they're not ready for. Indeed. Point is, people can almost immediately tell whether you having a kid is a commitment in the earnest, or you're just immature crackwhore babymomma - that's why I mention family, because bringing a kid to anything less is not just immature, but outright cruel. People of all political angles (except yours lol) can make a snap and accurate judgement about this in similar vein. Meanwhile, if you advertise you're volunteering…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:14 PM
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However it's not sufficient to just be pursued by drunk guys, trust. Again, being pursued by drunk girls is plenty of validation for most guys. Once again, far lower expectations in this than anything women have. There is evolutionary component to juggernaut effect from different angle though - guys feed on attention from drunk women of reproductive age. Post-menopausal women who throw themselves at you are no longer a mating possibility and rapidly devalued to platonic validation at best. immat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:31 PM
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With family, you're kinda forced to commit, you can't just virtue signal that shit. Because everyone knows what it entails, and if you fail, you'll be shunned. With charity, your motives can be immature as fuck, and most people won't bat an eye. You can't shittalk volunteering, it's like making fun of cripples. Yet in reality of NGO sector is that of being deeply polarized between virtue signaling fraud, and charity. Anyone in vicinity would tell you as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:47 PM
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Here's how "throwing herself at him" plays out (anecdotally IME): Woman believes the guy is interested in having sex with her, usually coz she's in fuckable league to begin with, there are no hotter competing women around etc. Woman is interested in having sex with the guy in turn. The guy says no, typically for a reason which makes said woman flip upon hearing "I'm flattered, but I'm not interested in hookups". But I was rejected consistently as a teenager for being fat and autistic so rejectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:27 PM
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Didn't really imply you are. The overarching theme I'm hearing on "sad reddit" is that of loneliness, especially among zoomers. In my country, life is pretty hard for most (I've kinda "made it" which I gotta admit, somewhat isolates me). Picture trailer trash and below, living on $10k/y in the west. But there's an upside to that, too - since almost everyone has to hustle, no time to obsess over bullshit. Hardship somewhat nudges people together by necessity. West and west-adjacent has too much o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:48 PM
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Not really complaining, I just have this cringe fetish, I just can't really look away. I kinda understand where you guys are coming from, I just have this urge to make you suffer, so you'd have something to whine about lol. starving african child You guessed correctly, I'm from a relatively poor country. The sentiment of "westoids and their complaining about non-issues" is pretty deeply ingrained almost anywhere outside of the western sphere. We do have our own crop of incels, but even their woe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:32 PM
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Early and often. Shitposting aside, I have a weird (sadistic?) fascination with people whining, comprising probably half of my subs on reddit. The sheer gall of the most privileged retards on the planet being all "teehee, my life is hard", it's like a fucking zoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:23 PM
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Yep. Calling tough-love "ableism" is wholesale insane. How it increasingly leaks from twitter into real life is disconcerting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:17 PM
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volunteering Let me try: I've been an IT drone for streetwork charity. Pro-bono. And there are basically two kinds of people there. Social posturing retards who list it in their insta bio, whose sole focus is to brag about it. Obsessed with how much of a "nice person" they're seen as. And then there are people who do this shit as a part hobby, part for warm fuzzy feelings without need for a fucking medal. It's rarely ones life calling, save for the very few motherfuckers who go all-in doctors wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:09 PM
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"men are more honest about how superficial they are"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:01 PM
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Genghis Khan was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:58 PM
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exercise, read, learn, volunteer It always cracks me up "I'd rather focus on my zero-effort pedestrian hobbies than any serious commitment to anything". "I'd rather play LOL, smoke weed and fap rather than talk to a roastie" incel tier mentality. Emotional maturity of 15 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:55 PM
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I have lots of women friends and they're all mature reasonable people. I agree my views are ultimately misantrophic. I don't trust what people say, I trust what they do. And in this case, what overwhelming majority of women will do is flip their shit when they're told no by a guy whom she is throwing herself at already (an important precondition, remind you). She may have enough self-control to not literally flip her shit, but you can read it on her face and follow up actions regardless. There's…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:28 PM
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Also those are two different terms. Men’s rights can speak to men’s rights to anything, even the right to have more than others. No, you're just shitposting semantics. These two are notoriously polarized, tribal camps of one sex wanting to dominate the other. Yes both camps are very fond of hamstering its all in name of "equality", please tell me which fascist regime doesn't try to self-justify its own "greater good" lol. It’s not to give women any and all rights over men. If you want to know wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:10 PM
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I also don't lose my shit if I'm rejected I'm not a teenager 😂 Odd assumption. Riiight, bcoz women = you in particular. I always forget how women on PPD struggle with the distinction between "me" and a much larger group. Everything they hear is somehow talking about them personally, the outside world probably doesn't even exist. Those men are scary and repeat offend. You're right. What I really meant to say that women feel about men in particular, and that feeling is very at odds with the realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:47 AM
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Here's my pet theory: feminism mens rights activists The writing is on the fucking book title, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:39 AM
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Maybe Jefrrey is just a little teeny wee bit autistic coz he can't really see the fucking obvious? I wonder if Jeffrey is buttblasted the same when facing everyday white lie politeness. Say a job interviewer turns you down - ofc he won't tell you why, because you lacking the self-awareness about the why is a large part of your fucking problem in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:35 AM
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*scrotes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:32 AM
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Only incels, but not virgins. What the fuck is the difference between the two, really? Walks like a duck, quacks like a permavirgin duck, ofc its a fucking incel duck, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:30 AM
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Do women really care that much? Picture what women think (hurr durr, empathy): All those men hounding you for sex 24/7, 365 days a year, rapist lurking in every alley and DM. Clearly, this means men have sex all the fucking time, or at least would have given the opportunity. Clearly, if a man is virgin there must be something very wrong with him, he probably hates women or something. Right right, I can hear resident PPD gals screaming at me for making assumptions again, but hear me out: Why it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:20 AM
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with bullying losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:14 AM
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you guys would all accuse them being bluepilled liars Let me reiterate: Why do you care what you're accused of? The point is you opting for bullshit instead of speaking clearly because of could-be and what-ifs. Yes, people will attack your opinion and your motives. That's what a fucking debate is, it's meant to be confrontational. i think blackpillers at least should congraluate women who are honest. Fairs, but there's the gotcha - suddenly you're pariah in women's world. There's no shortage of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:10 PM
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we aren't allowed Who the hell is stopping you? Soyciety? Or are you just too afraid people wouldn't like you if you just said what you think to their face? Shitposting aside, there's no winning this - the few women who are willing to assert themselves suddenly find themselves in harsh male world playing field, and most women simply have no idea how to play, at best they come across as some ghetto sissy on TikTok. The only women good at this are down to earth old ladies (think Thatcher, Merkel o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:00 PM
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Overall, I agree with your point of the delusional incel cope about the wall. However I'd not dismiss that the wall as being a myth, simply because wall is something men do to their partners: Men are far more selective with their neoteny preference than women are. This is self-evident to anyone who's talked to a gay man in his 30s. The wall has downstream effects. Most notably for women who are used to being carried by simps all her life, suddenly she has to make compromise by late 20s when the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:53 PM
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tl;dr: Shopping for a reliable car on craigslist. Bad idea, but still doable if you're realistic about the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:36 AM
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that you had to pick one For LTR? Fairs. There's another bias you're showing - you presuppose that men predominantly chase after celebrities and models, or in general, women more successful than them, on account of you thinking "popular and successful women are hot". Once again, you're applying female gaze thinking that men's brains work the same. Yet there's massive gender bias when it comes to groupies and consumption of celebrity gossip. The point I'm making here is that men aren't picky, men…
/r/AllPillDebate23/12/22 01:43 PM
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pick the latter. Herein lies the difference: Most men would simply pick both (we're talking fucking, not relationship, right?). Women give bad advice to men because they project their POV. Sometimes it's applicable, often time it's simply not.
/r/AllPillDebate23/12/22 10:58 AM
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If being nice can be relative, so can be bullying. Besides, I'm sure you're very scary in gaming lobbies.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 04:19 PM
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I don't have words for the type of pathetic that you have achieved. 3 comments of banter so far. Clearly struck a chord.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 03:54 PM
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Tone, mister. And yes, the keyboard warrior is strong with this one.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 03:49 PM
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Or doing it online. Like a coward. So do you right now.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 03:44 PM
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Being nice is subjective. In what universe? My assessment, and the claim of the person themselves are equally worthless. Yes, that's why we use objective judgements with this newfangled invention called morality. you are not a nice person. Agreed. I take pride in bullying people tho. 'nice guy' is a meme that translates directly to huge piece of shit I'd translate it to loser / simp. Most of those guys just can't handle rejection and flip their shit, I don't see much point in trying to pile on v…
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:24 PM
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If that were true, this whole sub would piss off to Grindr already.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:23 PM
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JayzerJ is the 90% of ethnicels, who's the 10%?
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:22 PM
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You look like a suitable pet to keep.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:21 PM
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Have sex with your therapist. /thread
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:10 PM
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White guilt.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:08 PM
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TikTok You make it sound like that makes it somehow true, lol. TikTok is flooded with incel bait like this. Easy views.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:06 PM
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Sir, I hope you are not insinuating that cuckolding is a sin.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 11:55 AM
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tl;dr: Don't date a ho lol.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 11:53 AM
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You weren't enough of a whore to keep her side interested. As much I'm not fond of RP, there's a lot of truth to dread. Not really in the blackmail "I can cheat on you at anytime". Just being enough of a flirt elsewhere to keep things spicy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:23 AM
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I think exposure effects are at play here. Normally, dogooders are oblivious to escorts because they don't literally see em on the streets. In my country, escorts are very hush hush affair yet common (~1 out of 100 women). Johns who are getting into it are always surprised how many are there in their city. But when they do pay attention, it's even worse - some dubious "samaritan" NGO decided to make a name for themselves by going after our largest forum because it took 0.5% cut on escrow and pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:40 AM
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She's on a crusade and she's gonna save the world, baby! Shitposting aside, situation with pimps has drastically improved since early 2000s, real street hookers are almost non-existent now, save for drug dens and ghettos.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:55 AM
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Yes, most not-autistic people around me know which sleeping dogs to let lie, it's just common sense. I don't give a shit about her hookups in high school, she doesn't give a shit about my drunken party escapades. What is normally meant by "sexual history" is past relationships, crushes, "the ones that got away". Those are far more important - you wanna be honest with your partner about past flames which can burn your current relationship. Again, people don't give two fucks about N or irrelevant …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:31 AM
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I'm curious, have you ever been around escorts? Most of em around here do it to live waaaaay above their means. Why? Coz they fucking can and know it. Does that really make em a victim? You sound like a gender studies textbook with that whole catastrophized "all sex work is human trafficking" line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:23 AM
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I think you’ll find many women feel is incompatible with what they want in a relationship. So what? It's not that they'd ever know I did something like that in the past, provided I don't do it while being with her, another reason to prefer hookers to hookups. The thing with hos (this includes "being a player" in recent history) is that they're pretty self-evident, it literally is "having a reputation" keeping you boxed you can't even really change even if you wanted anymore. People talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:07 AM
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I don't really mind the cynicism, if the point of that is to hammer the point home. The issue is that they're oversimplifying dark triad and coercive group dynamics with autistic hamstering. Take negging or frame for instance. They're completely oblivious to how it spectacularly backfires the moment they don't neg/keep frame at somebody else other than her - especially a guy they're too afraid to start shit with. If you're not consistent, people instantly feel awkward and realize in their gut yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:53 AM
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IRL, people care about her being a ho or not, not the N. The whole "her N is higher that mine, oi vey" and "moids are hypocritical (wat?) with N" is very specific to terminally online redditors. using "hoes" Ho means: opportunistic, "hypergamy" how often has she cheated on her ex-bfs no impulse control commitment issues, "i'm not interested in relationships" She can have N 6 for all I care, and still be a ho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:54 AM
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Yep. Chimp troop group dynamics are merciless. The pattern repeats itself way past highschool, though adults tend to be more coy about it, often pretending pretty hard it's not really high school anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:38 AM
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how to be the most appealing to men as possible I'm not particularly fond of vindicta tbh, as they're embroiled into a lot of mutual female-gaze style of virtue signaling still. Some of em have that pure femme fatale energy they oh-so-much want to be, but most are unwilling to fully commit to being a seductress. The dream they're chasing inevitably means getting kicked out of the sisterhood, a frightening prospect to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:34 AM
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Being physically attractive helps to pass the muster, but it's not really what people mean by "women like bad boys". Bad boy dynamic is sort of a "social proof". Real "tough guy" is being mean to everyone else too, and THAT is what makes it "hot". It makes her chase the impossible validation of "If I'll make him be nice to me (but he remains mean to everyone else), it proves I'm the princess special", preying on combination of savior/inferiority complex certain types of women are self-obsessive …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:34 PM
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"guys i need you to treat me like crap, understand that you're better than me leave me at all times don't let me talk shit to you don't call me back don't take me out on an expensive date for the first date, fuck me and pull my hair, treat me like a slut and uh make sure under no circumstances you over validate me” Imagine a simp being all like "oh yea, I love when stacy neglects me, pays attention only to chads" etc etc. Some - especially legit masochistic people are. But in general, naw. Their…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:22 PM
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Cohabitation is fine. But the babymomma hos the RP youtube shills are sperging about? Not really. You date a ho without any vetting whatsoever, you're a desperate idiot with no traditional family sense whatsoever. I'd say such people are made for each other and not socially conservative in the slightest. Would be really nifty to cross-ref this with church attendance / denominations to make a ranking list which protestants are the most degen (non-evangelical republicans probably leading the list)…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:57 PM
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I mean, how exactly is this conservative again? It literally says it's just babymommas/hos getting on with chumps they mooch off who voted Trump lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:36 PM
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I suppose many spouses never found out that their child wasn't theirs. It really depends how functional the family is internally. A lot of our grandmothers kept the skeleton in the closet because they felt they really couldn't trust how would hubs react. More functional families eventually do pull out the skeleton when kids are old enough to understand. It's better to maintain the victorian appearances that way, as opposed to being eaten away with guilt or fear of being found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:28 PM
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Yes because dating leads to cohabitation and conservatives are jumping into the fray How does this connect to "becoming a stepdad by dating"? Thus as I said there u/upalse do some research a little before mouthing off, it just might help a little Can you at least stay on topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:22 PM
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dating does lead to being a step dad at times. > conservative Are you for real? that conservatives are performing cohabitational relationships more than in the past Yea, there's continuous conservative to liberal shift in the US. Ton of white trash "conservative" MAGAs not really subscribing to traditional sense of the word. Do note that my notion of conservative is from orthodox church legacy, which is pretty black and white. None of this "choose your own megachurch which allows for no-fault di…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:13 PM
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It's what fault-only divorce is for - the man is given a choice "I got cucked, now I have to either suck it up, or bolt to never show up again because I'll be shunned for bolting". As well giving women to kick out abusive husband. But no more than that, none of this "I'm not happy, lol" selfish bullshit. 50 years ago, it was also not really all that uncommon to keep the cheating affair a secret from everyone due to the stigma. This again served a good purpose - the kids genuinely believed the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:07 PM
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A guy getting on with a turbo-liberal ho isn't really conservative, as he profoundly compromises on conservative values he's supposedly committing to. There are very specific ways you can become stepdad in traditional setting: Her husband bolts Or you get cheated on in marriage If its none of that - she divorced her ex, out of wedlock kids etc, we're way past conservative - well into modern liberal "family".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:56 PM
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Point is, they're all talking about desperate liberal chumps getting on with "strong and independent" hos/babymommas. How the fuck does that jive with conservative? If there's no husband who's gone for a pack of cigs after a shotgun wedding year prior, there's really nothing conservative going on, all I see is white trash/hood liberal dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:47 PM
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These people don't seem even remotely conservative. Yeah, I get why man will be mocked as a cuck in more liberal circles as they have their own fucked up way of doing family "values".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:36 PM
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Can, but in practice socially conservative = traditional (christian-esque) values in the west. My country is 80% atheists (thanks commies!), yet it still works out this way. We leave out god out of it, but the traditional orthodoxy of christianity remains in conservative parts of the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:21 PM
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I had seen the shit the step fathers go through and yeah, no. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:17 PM
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It would depend on the situation and the person. I'd personally be open to it if she was always conservative leaning and her situation is a product of betrayal from a man who'd promised to be the father. Husband going for a pack of cigs sort of thing. But a woman who just hooked up, trying to babytrap a himbo who's been "love of her life" (read: FWB) for 5 years. No chance, we're simply of opposing mindsets. Her "I want a traditional man now" is purely opportunistic, and she wouldn't genuinely a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:06 PM
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Not sure how to explain it better. Basically, socially conservative traditionalism is a whole package, you just don't get to be conservative by cherrypicking the parts as it suits you. You can't fuck around, be a single mom or dead beat dad and then be suddenly "lol, i'm a born again christian trad nao". That's not conservative conviction, just pretense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:49 PM
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There's a lot of it in Christian canon. Joseph, Virgin Mary being loosely alluded to be Mary Magdalene and such. Or even King of the Hill (Dale). Basically the trad dogma is: You proscribe adultery and no-fault divorce, but once the milk is spilled in spite of that, you gotta do what you gotta do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:42 PM
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Anyone saying "no, I don't wanna be a cuck" isn't really socially conservative. You don't get to pick and choose from trad roles: You have a duty to provide no ifs, no buts. Woman has a duty to follow. That's the covenant which makes it work in the first place, you can't just eat your cake and have it too. It's what really irks me about /pol/ style of traditionalism. While I understand the gut feeling to not provide for a bastard, you simply can't reject the bastard. When the entire system is "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:26 PM
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Women understand that a foundational part of men’s attraction to them is based on our beauty, sexuality and traditional femininity But a lot of men seem to genuinely struggle with the foundational part of women’s attraction tl;dr: Women understand men to some extent by default - it's what gives em a lot of upper hand to tard wrangle men. Meanwhile it takes a lot of men forever to understand women at all - chiefly due to not having enough exposure. So much so there's the popular cultural trope of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:25 PM
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still seems a bit darwinian and old school It's not "still", but "more than ever". The rise of incel narratives coincide with the status chasing market becoming substantially globalized. Before social media, disney narratives were somewhat plausible, now those are outright delusional. It's not a coincidence either that superhero capeshit is the "new disney". Literally up-to-date parable - nobody gives a shit about virgin prince charming in some backwater kingdom. You better be the chad captain-s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:30 PM
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At one point, commies received same amount of hate, for basically the same reason - complaining about being a loser makes you a double loser. By default anyway, until commies do a beta uprising, where being a loser becomes a status symbol in and itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:25 PM
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I’ve never been asked, ever. That's fair. Men (outside of PPD) care about whether you're a ho, not your N. Conversely, women (outside of PPD) don't really give two fucks about whether a guy paid a hooker or slept around in college - if anything, the latter tends to be a bonus (she's such a pickmeisha, amirite?! :). What they're looking for is whether he's able to commit now. Regardless, it is my understanding that this convo is about ho or not, warped through autistic lens of incels and femcels …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:00 PM
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It really depends on the geography and economic class, so the stereotypes are pretty wonky here. With business-like being more common in asia and southern america (consider how JBW sex tourism plays into it for instance), whereas desperate-like street ho being more common in the west. If they don't know it's a duty fuck, they're stupid. But they're fine with duty fucks. Platos cave. Duty fucks are for desperate chumps, and majority of men are chumps. There's a stupid amount of guys out there who…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:19 PM
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If they both desired each other, there'd be no reason for payment to be involved. She's hot, she doesn't desire to commit to normal relationship, has plenty of guys who are hot enough for her, so she chooses those who are willing to throw a cash bonus in. The mutual desire is there as far as sex goes, but no more than that (certainly no emotional intimacy if that's what you mean). Simple as. Again, you're operating from some ridiculous commie mindset that work for money can't be pleasure, or tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:48 AM
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Isn't "no, u" kinda like no argument at all? Why are you personally invested in "mocking" (where exactly you did that, lol?) manwhores at all? It's the same as incels with their "roasties" thing, all I see is bitterness. There's rarely wit or insight in shaming unless you understand why are you shaming people for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:43 AM
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r/fds aside, there is one useful angle to shaming manwhores - they do produce hos, who are shamed by everyone. Manwhores are malignant by proxy, coz of course hos are just little children who can't make the hard choices for themselves, they need a manwhore to blame lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:58 AM
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CMV: "Ho" and "manwhore" is apples and oranges. There's no "hypocrisy", there's only retarded past time of too many cels on PPD. Reason? Manwhore has a choice in what he desires - it's why "manwhore" doesn't really work as an insult, lol. A ho, on the other hand has no choice, coz no guy she'd desire would commit to her (in part due to being a ho, but not necessarily - some guys actually do desire hos). She's insecure about her N just like incel is about his. This is backed by hard data, once yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:49 AM
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Isn't LVM or fuckboy the proper femcel lingo?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:43 AM
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There’s a big difference between having sex with lots of people and paying someone for sex. Point is, your hoe past will be equally scrutinized ("always a ho"). If a guy hits a street ho because booty calls in his phone are too much of a headache, ye that's definitely sus and nothing I'd particularly brag about. But because he has commitment issues. Just like a ho will present as a nun. People are insecure about their skeletons when they know full well they'll be judged on things. But you don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:17 AM
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You're arguing in vain with "all compensated labor is slavery" commie mindset of certain resident radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:14 AM
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Fundamentally, he enjoys having sex with people he knows don't want to have sex with him for its own sake. Hold on there with the presumptions about SW, tiger. How do you know all johns are not desired? Ever talked to a not meth/heroin-adddled pickier escort? They literally say no to johns who are unfuckable most of the time lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:10 AM
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Paid for drinks to a femoid once -> Clearly a desperate school-shooting incel creep lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:05 AM
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Am I not allowed to develop such preference? The point is, why does the "telling the N" matter? A born again christian ho will simply tell you low N if that's what you wanna hear. Finding out whether or not she's a hoe is much more squarely on point, and the correlation with "admitted N" is unreliable to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:02 AM
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ability to get with a girl who not only had a low n-count but is also attractive and smart The way this works is that slayers simply get tired of it, and look to settle down. Once you get to that stage, you'll start looking up closer whether the girl is a hoe or not, as it's clear to you more than anyone that hoe's affections are fleeting at best. I find people framing it in terms of N somewhat bizarre. While it's true that you can't really reform a hoe (until she's 40 anyway), a girl who's been…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:04 AM
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I have this XYZ count, but it does not matter, I want a low count woman. That's just the RP lala land, not the real world: Guys who slay hardly ever care about her N. Only autistic chumps ask about N, not realizing it's their own insecurity/ineptitude talking -> unattractive for obvious reasons. Anyone else can easily tell whether the girl is a hoe or not and that's basically all you need to know. I agree that the only valid reason this could come up is when both are seriously trad, ie both care…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:31 PM
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tl;dr: to fix being desperate you go all out with "bobs and vagene pls" and dick pics
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:54 AM
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I'd just straight shoot "are you retarded or what?" at him, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:45 AM
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Essentially a 50/50 split on everything. It's a hideous trope. People seek in others that which they don't have - they complement each other. Not necessarily by gender roles, but there's always some yin and yang. Being infatuated with your perfect clone is just pure narcissism, not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:39 AM
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Missed opportunity. Seriously, your talents are wasted on PPD. You better normiepost this crap on your "DAE amirite?!" tiktok or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:35 AM
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And let's not forget another hot take on master key / lock. Isn't this whole "Human beans, not piece of steel!" outrageous?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:30 AM
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The Poe law of reddit: When OP is so autistic it becomes indistinguishable from virtue signalling twitter outrage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:08 AM
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It's no different from racial profiling. Sure you can do it, and sure the target group would "benefit", until the unintended consequences arrive. Namely, the presumption of cheating becomes self-fulfilling prophecy - subconsciousness goes all passive-aggressive on you with "If I'm presumed cheater, might as well be a cheat".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:01 AM
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only makes sense now in very narrow contexts It's very much alive and kicking almost everywhere in the 3rd world - traditionalism always reasserts itself whenever society is not industrialized enough to afford individualism/consumerism. Nazi germany was one of the exceptions to the rule in modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:53 AM
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It's not. Either you're a hoe, or you're not. Traditionalism literally IS about black-white moral values, none of this new fangled liberal "continuum".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:37 AM
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Weak willed people feel enamored with people who act self-assured - simply because they see in the other something they desire for themselves. How this ties to gender stereotypes, you can answer for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:16 PM
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I agree that it's kind of cringy when women position it like this, since their perspective is centered on the effect it has on their own self-esteem. Shaming others to mask your own shame never really goes well for anyone. No different from incels whining about women being promiscuous or w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:10 PM
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People with inferiority complex and self-loathing when being offered help. It's not generally that gender specific, either. Men do exact same thing when they refuse to ask for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:01 PM
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Being on top of the woke clout chasing game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:58 PM
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more naturalistic state You'd need far more war and rape to get back to the "natural" selection equilibrium.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:11 AM
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virtue signalling The hole in the argument you're making is the assumption that people can't fetishize just the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:32 PM
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I think women use entirely different metrics from men. Most notably, they're much more tolerant to fat, much more sensitive to height and face, not to mention subtle shit like veins, hand sizes, body hair...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:52 PM
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The 6' or whatever rule is dumb in my opinion. The subtlety lies in "too fat, compared to" and "too short, compared to". I'd rather have a facially attractive (personally) 5'8 guy than an average looking 6'3. I think people make a lot of these tradeoffs with various metrics without even realizing it. I often see it in retrospect - while I'm no fan of fat, I've been with a chubby girl, simply due to her being cute face and above average character. But if she were outright fat, it would be hard no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:45 PM
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All you see will still be "he's 6'5". That's not how standards work. There's simply "too fat" or "too short". but I didn't notice him nor felt attracted to him at all That's fairly normal for women (and even a lot of men). Yet again, everything you say doesn't discount your standards for height.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:29 PM
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What do you mean by "effort". Plastic surgeries? Being even more aggressive? most attention to looks and fashion and so on, but it seems women are winning on that Depends. The dolled up k-pop metro trope isn't all that popular standing on its own. Women simply have far wider criteria for men than looks compared to what men desire in women. While cliched as "personality", I think better reference is "he has something going on" (ie social power).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:42 PM
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Tinder or at a night club The deck is too stacked with those for mere mortals. Realistically, they should get a job as a waiter, and observe for a while what other guys are doing. guys seem to not know how to even properly approach women and it’s just creepy. To be perfectly honest, men in general are just tonedeaf to subtle social cues, not just when it comes to reading a room with a woman. The upside is that this helps with being direct and get shit done instead of dancing around issues just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:34 PM
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PPD is a cesspool (a very entertaining cesspool) and should be treated as such. No argument here. To be fair, I do meet people with weird damage of this sort in real life where you absolutely cannot get any insight why they're that way. On PPD it's more transparent as the arguments unravel. want a romantic relationship This one is interesting too. What RP guys often desire is intimacy (typically with mommy issue tint), and are usually unable to separate it from sex. This provokes knee-jerk react…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:22 PM
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Why, because it's extremely superficial to have a numerical cut of point. Boils down how insecure you are about particular framing. A lot of women were hardcore socialized to not be seen as superficial, hence the deflections to "ick" and "chemistry" relativism. Regardless, you can put a number on "too fat for me" and "too short for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:14 PM
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Female CEO (and everything inbetween) equality (not just outliers). Never gonna happen apart from lip service. Women simply don't represent enough psychopathic outliers to self-select in equal amount. Ditto with nobel prizes due to no outliers, yada yada. This is why feminism is angled towards socialism - crab approach to tear down the ambitious. Participation trophy mentality has its own set of issues - perhaps making things even worse, though. It's a nice pipe dream said CEOs can slap on shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:02 PM
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Mommy issues. That is, seeking validation from women to an unhealthy extent. Their natural disposition is to be annoyingly clingy, layered with insecurity about it on top (pretends to be tough guy, until they start whining about mom - any woman in vicinity - being mean to em again). Women can sense a clingy ("desperate") guy like this from a mile away - it's one of the biggest turnoffs to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:51 AM
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One thing I've noticed working in hospitality: A lot of guys don't have a proper working slutdar, so they shotgun all women in range. Few guys have the spidey sense a woman is up for something casual, and only then pursue. This is how you get more or less average looking "chads". Modern RP and incel dogmas are now so removed from OG PUA theory they don't even entertain this possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:34 AM
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RBF is a nifty twist of nature. Automatically filters out only for the few men who can see past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:29 AM
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someone who appears willing You're being charitable here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:23 AM
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You seem to have a soft spot for insecure guys, lol. Stop staring at my ass and look at my resume for once, how about that? This one always sounds so weird. Why should any of that matter? And especially on Reddit, a lot of “feminist” subs are supporting the opposite of feminism. Reddit purged all TERFs couple of years ago, so only the sex-positive neoliberal fems remain. Even here you're probably walking thin ice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:05 AM
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My niece prostitutes herself to pay for lifestyle of her meth addled "bf" for 2 years now. The guy isn't particularly attractive, nor tall. He's just shitty and good at pushing her insecurities. When you see "bad boy" dynamic up close like this, it's hard to not be redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:51 AM
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Why do you need a 'pill'? *sheltered whitoid noises*
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:46 AM
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but the concept of completely discounting someone based on a physical trait IME, women call it "there's no spark" with a short guy. Whereas men call her straight, "she's fat". It's the same thing, though - discarding based on very obvious physical attribute. Whether one allows themselves to not name the elephant in the room is secondary. People are judged for actions, not their opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:42 AM
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Worse still, if a person has a pattern of chasing after abusers, it means your only chance to be with em - if you really want to - is to be abusive as well. No thanks, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:39 AM
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I inadvertedly left my 5'7 ex for my 6'5 boyfriend, but his height was not in the top 20 reasons why I started liking I can never wrap my head around this defensiveness. Just because PPD is set to shame you for it, it's not a crime to admit it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:35 AM
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being uninterested in or emotionally unavailable for serious relationships "Ho phase" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:29 AM
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if women are the ones selecting, and they select for the top men, why don’t we make their selections explicit as a social norm? It's called matriarchy, and indeed, few societies did work that way historically. There are downsides, though - you remove the just world fiction, and now you have a population of restless men who know exactly what cards are they dealt. This is why matriarchies are exceedingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:04 AM
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Whats going wrong here? It's not "wrong". It's literally MO of each sex. Generally, women internalize more ("victimhood") so they're the ones more prone to blame shifting to cope with the internalized feeling of failure. Meanwhile, men blame the world from the get go ("entitlement") and are thus more prone to aggression instead of nagging / whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:15 PM
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IME, the "cool girl" type hides her "You'll like me once you see how good of a girl I am". Outwardly she acts smitten, she's very into poly and FWB all of sudden. But eventually, she flips once this grandiose belief is not validated down the line. And suddenly she's very trad again, and he's abusive ex-bf rapist. It's a mirror image of niceguys - very clear motive that lingers as elephant in the room - he's yielding to her demands on the surface of it (attention), but eventually flips his shit w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:29 AM
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Initially i was thinking this is a manipulation tactic. It is, lean-into-abuse with the intent to play victim later - you know, the bike-stick meme. The whole "showing my skin is absolutely the fault of men being animals". Be very vary of people who weirdly feel sense of empowerment whenever you explicitly "ignore their wishes". This is still non-consent from their POV they're going to guilt trip you with sooner than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:00 AM
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Some of us also like to be valued for our intelligence People who want to be "valued" for their "intelligence" are by far the most obnoxious sort. There's a reason why intellectuals aren't particularly liked bunch - they lack the drive and grit to make use of their intellect, if its present at all, so they constantly obsess over schemes that would make the world see em in their "true" (imagined) form, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:36 AM
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Women saying, they do not need men and needing to say it every few minutes also suggests some form of insecurity. It's also funny that MGTOW is basically male version of what "strong independent women" have been doing for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:02 PM
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I hear this "gaymaxxing" rhetoric a lot of as of recent. There's a gotcha, though - the attentionn is nice when you're 18-22, maybe up to 25. Then you hit the wall by 30, at full force. The wall is far worse for gay men than it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:54 PM
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The contraction is smeared all over the west ofc, US is just at the center of it, everyone at a periphery will become zombieland much sooner, a lot of em perhaps even going the suicidal korea route. This is already abundantly apparent as a trend - europe being much older populations than the US, simply because it's nowhere as near popular destination for immigration. Brazil and South Africa Latin & black. Yes, something akin to brazil is to be expected racially in 50 years. But US is rather dist…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:36 AM
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Some men definitely do it too, especially himbos. If you frequent r/tinder you also know that "hey" openers typically won't get you far as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:31 AM
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People are varied and are supposed to be more than their instincts. People's motivations can be for the most part traced back to their instincts, especially in absence of social constraints (what are those in liberal society?). Imagine a man excusing having 10 kids with different moms by saying it's just his instincts and that means it's okay. That's a bit of appeal to emotion ("think of the children") lol. However the instinctual drive for this is obviously why men are horndogs trying to sleep …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:24 AM
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The way dysgenics works vis a vis urbanization: Fit populations self-select and move to urban centers to compete with each other and innovate etc. Urbanites almost never reach replacement rate. As industrialized nations are now approaching 80% of urbanization, they became fitness blackholes for past couple of hundred years. Note that this goes for both sexes, its not really about what wahmen do. Non-urban areas pretty much serve as a genetic reservoir to counter this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:03 AM
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They will say they behave the way they do and are more valuable just because they can get pregnant. They are. They will claim this is the result of evolution etc. It is, we're diploid species. They will do this so they will never have to admit any blame for their choices or behavior It's not really an excuse though. People with natural advantage to be more valued will feel entitled to more - to the extent of opportunity to assert their claim. In any situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:54 PM
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Ye, racial tensions will wax and wane. It's not really unprecedented in the US history. OG irish or chinese immigrants could tell you stories. But 2 generaitons down the line, almost all of that is forgotten. Productive immigrants always integrate. The non-productive ones don't. US neoliberal discourse is not yet ready to have that conversation, as it's not really a pressing issue, yet. That will change, soon-ish, overton window shifting from universalist doctrine ("woke") to pragmatism (Singapo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:26 PM
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That theory assumes the capitalistic model of constant growth. We're entering a phase of economic decline already, there's no growth in real terms, only inflation. Growth would be represented in increased standards of living, which is near universally not the case save for few 2nd world economies. This transition is rocky, but not really end of the world. Shrinking economies is even more pressure on the labor though - as market transitions from win-win to zero-sum, there's much less opportunity …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:13 PM
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It's fine, but build him a well equipped cuck shed to show how much you care about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:31 PM
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I'd chalk it up on reddit on the whole being a den of liberal/libertarian hyper-individualism, not exactly trad. RP is somewhat consistent on this, albeit it's hard to say to which extent it's just an excuse for their degeneracy. There's the whole "enjoy the decline" and "unicorn" rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:24 PM
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almost-slave labor Such things are largely obsolete. By chery-picking I mean self-selecting populations of industrious people who seek better life in the west by bolting from their 3rd world hellhole and then not having kids in the US, eventually draining "useful" immigrant surplus. Migration can be good but also it can cause more issues, or move issues for future generations to deal with. I'm assuming that most western countries will eventually adopt sane immigration policies, being too woke ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:17 PM
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Dysgenics is already occurring for the past 200 years due to increasing urbanization. It's not really an issue in and itself as that problem is self-correcting for the most part, demographics-wise. It's more about even having demographic profile that can sustain itself when facing sudden collapse under its own weight due to being age top-heavy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:03 PM
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Nationalism/racism will cease to be relevant in about 20 years. Future culture wars will be fought over reverse-colonialism. US will hog all the young talent, leaving rest of the world elderly wasteland just like Korea or Russia is. A lot of people won't be thrilled with the disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:57 PM
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If you "hey" me - be it on the street or an app - it's pretty clear I'd have to carry the entire convo. Fuck that. Strangers that "hey" are socially retarded at best, creeps at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:51 PM
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production line It's not even about that. Demographic trends move at a glacial pace, but with crushing inevitability. With current trend extrapolated, we'll just flatline at 10b or so, in ideal case. But if Africa's reproductive rate collapses "unexpectedly", as it did in places like, say, Saudi Arabia, the reset will be quite drastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:42 PM
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Regardless, not all migrants are profitable. That's besides the point. Some of em are, and for as long there's enough of em, you can cherrypick. Of course as the supply goes dry and only lemons are left, immigration will cease to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:26 PM
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It's true there's not much point worrying about dropping birth rates in the west, because those are well below replacement rate beyond point of no return. West being repopulated by immigrants is its destiny now. What's worrying is dropping birthrates in Africa, Asia, Latin Americas. 3rd world imports aren't exactly endless supply, drop curve will eventually cross a point where even productivity gains via automation can't make up for it. In that regard, Korea is a model of what happens when entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:20 PM
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We'll be fine just by importing 3rd world immigrants for a couple of decades still, we won't probably live to see the zombie apocalypse (world median age of 40). Japan, China and Korea are fucked due to being anti-immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:17 PM
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Please explain how swiping on every women saves you time ? Perhaps trying to find the one which doesn't message with just "hey".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:02 PM
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People often confuse ambition with insecurity. There's a difference between natural dominance (pride, contest of merit), and entitled dominance (arrogance, excuses, narcissistic shaenigans etc). Insecure is when somebody says "I should've won because <insert how better they are, or how others are lesser>". Incidentally, shaming somebody for being insecure is almost without fail manifestation of insecurity in and itself (if you really were above it, you'd employ more sophisticated social tools).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:57 PM
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Crybullying is how women perform dominance. "Insecure", "abusive", "gaslighting" etc are the canon lingo for it. The connecting thread is always: I'm the victim it's a fault of somebody else Really whiny men (incels, crybullies etc) do this too, but the gender balance of it is pretty obvious in real life or even on twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:53 PM
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Username relevant. I do agree. My take on this is that women don't mind wrinkles and widow peak on old guys. It's men who are substantially more selective about looks that creates the wall for women. Bad skin, saggy tits, chubby? A lot of women will have a hard time about that past 30. Of course men become monstrous and balding too even for woman's lower standard, sometime by 45 for someone who takes care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:47 PM
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Can't afford plastic surgeries. Using hollywood as a starting assumption for real life is what keeps PPD amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:42 PM
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Cherrypicking gossip rag celebrities to prove a point -> definitely she.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:35 PM
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It's ok, as long you frame it "I'm all past that, I've seen error in my ways". People love a good redemption arc.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 06:28 PM
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"I wanna be one of the boys"
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 04:49 PM
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very personable way with women, very playfully persistent This. Having a non-threatening, yet persistent mojo somehow eludes PUA bloggers.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/22 01:25 AM
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Insecurity in men is a huge turn-off for women and yet women are just as riddled with insecurities as men are. So? Are you one of those retards who insist that there should be equal standards for both men and women? Go tell your mom she's fat, I dare you.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/22 01:19 AM
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Seducing is hardly a rocket science for a woman, given that most men have universally low standards. Finding the right man is the hard part.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/22 01:08 AM
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It's more a matter of practicality. Madonna-Whore complex. How many men are incapable of achieving sexual arousal in a loving relationship, really? Also, wasn't Freud deboonked?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:46 PM
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It's a tactic. I'd argue that sexes express confirmation bias differently. Men tend to bend entire systems they're talking about, resulting in sophistry. Women, meanwhile, bend their empathetic perception, resulting in solipsism. Solipsism is trivial to call out, on account of lacking logic straight on the surface. Sophistry is harder to call out because one needs to follow the internal logic of it to uncover the faulty reasoning. That's not to say that women are incapable of using sophistry - a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:00 PM
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Look at Leonardo Dicaprio. Again, you're mashing two points. I agree that in such cases it's just feminist screeching nonsense. But other age gaps, especially if we exclude massive outliers like this and age gaps below 25yo bracket, it's an entirely separate issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:12 PM
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After like 24/25, the age gap doesn't matter unless that specific relationship is controlling. Because she could be independent and take 0 shit, and he could be a decent guy who just doesn't wanna fuck 50 yos. Which isn't great, but doesn't mean abuse. True, but at that point people don't really mind age gaps either. At that point they're all like "why is she with a fat wrinkly monster", ie presume some sort of sugaring relationship. Often it's her who has more power (but often not money) in suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:35 PM
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One difference is that cougar+boytoy is mostly about sex, rarely a relationship. Frankly, there's not much that can go wrong with age gaps when it's just hook up sort of situation with no stringing along to it, assuming we're talking 18+. You want to hook up with someone decade younger than you? Go for it, you dog, but don't string someone naive along that a relationship is realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:17 PM
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young women look That's not what's really disputed here. The creep factor is more about being in relationship with somebody really immature. It's you being the daddio that creeps people out. Most guys tried dating somebody much younger at least once (think 24yo guy dating a 19yo), know exactly what it's about, and just smh whenever they see it. Women often share similar experience - realizing in retrospect how controlling such relationships tend to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:10 PM
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When is the last time you heard about a man having acid thrown in his face for rejecting a marriage proposal? Is that what women genuinely fear on dating apps, or when a stranger hits on em in walmart? What are the odds of man throwing acid in such "dangerous" situation, 1 in 1000, 1 in 100000? Do women fear car, air travel and thunderstorms (being hit by a lightning) to such an extent, too? After all, bad things can happen, you never know. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean those damn manly…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:03 PM
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Most incels are a product of crippling social anxiety, they barely go outside. Besides, even if they tried what you're saying, it would be way too awkward. Baby steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:20 PM
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disgusting and proceed to have sex with them Low disgust threshold. Even a goat will do. Talk about abused women not caring about character like men and then chase crazy women. Don't put your dick in crazy. Cry about divorce rape and marry women without educations and jobs. Cry about divorce rape and marry women without educations and jobs. This one is mutual - women don't want low/comparable SEC "loser", while men are also "threatened" if their spouse is a "career woman". Divorce rape is thus n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:54 PM
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There isn't much of 'gaslighting' per se. The rhetoric is more akin to 'whats the big deal, lol?'. And I do agree, woman's imperative is the opposing force here, why should they care about incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:43 PM
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I see, my tangent is in reaction: anarchism has strong social constructivist vibe Basically my angle is realist (an example of anarchist praxis at a scale is geopolitics, or any realpolitik in a collective wherever possible). While yours is socially constructivist - for instance, an anarchist who shoots unpopular leader, primarily because they're indoctrinated by some strain of anarchist dogmatism. I suppose these views are not easily reconcilable - my claim to superiority is that reality always…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/22 12:08 PM
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However your previous message delved into a determinist argument for a reason that still eludes me. The specific example with risk-taking? Here's the intuition - the developmental psychology of risk taking is falsifiable prior (weakly, due to limited extent you can apply scientific method to soft science). This axiom is anchored in empiricism so not very reliably, but still far more compelling that naive social construction such as patriarchy exists vaguely out of thin air just because it's soci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/22 11:19 AM
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whose knowability is debatable Sure, that is where post-structuralism shines as a critique of structuralism - that excess reductionism can compromise soundness of a structure. It's often not a valid argument (especially when scientific realism gets involved) to dispose of structuralism altogether just because it can be unsound on occasion. Complex systems are not perfectly reasoned abstract cows orbiting earth, we actually live in those and can approximate em, both subjectively (as experience an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 11:39 PM
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I wouldn't consider that a post-structuralist argument, it's a social constructivist one. I'll consider it as such as I can't map that line of argumentation to a post-structuralist framework. It maps in my critique of post-structuralism that it is refusing objective structures - there's no deduction, only subjectivity. While subjectivity is fine (its what anarchism always does), my point is that once you extend it into deconstruction, you end up with foregone conclusion back-reasoned to purporte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 09:51 PM
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Why not just shift focus of anti-feminism onto anti-misandry? I can empathize with misandry (or just sexism in general) - someone has a personal chip on their shoulder, I get it. What I can't stand is intellectual dishonesty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 08:46 PM
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namely the elimination of hierarchies of gender. The divorce lies in how to go about it. If you label entire gender as reactionaries who "must behave", "or else", congratulations, you're now vying to establish dictatorship of a gender-proletariat on rigid ideological basis. This paradox is a timeless classic of leftism, one that OG anarchism pointed out rather succinctly - your ideological project can't just impose hierarchy of control on its own, willy nilly. In anarchism as originally understo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 08:06 PM
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I like this line of reasoning because it holds me responsible for the idea I espouse. I can't hide behind truth, I have to account for why I like a set of interpretation which explains why i accept the axioms behind it. Intent of the speaker, instead of merit of their argument, eh? That's fair and useful to come from a place of empathy instead of rudely invalidating ones experience with "facts and logic" (which can be totally wrong when axiomatically dishonest on top of that). What I'm talking a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 07:31 PM
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Or it could be argued that post-structuralist anarchism and radical feminism blended into one by the 80s. I'm not really a fan of such takes, feminist or otherwise. It's all fun and games to bring Deleuze into it, until you start rejecting deductive reasoning because it could, technically, lead to wrong of use of axioms ("everything begins with God" and such). But if all you do is induction instead, you often end up with back-reasoned gibberish all the same, just from the other end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 10:48 AM
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Left doesn't necessarily mean anti-authoritarian. In all fairness, I don't think the feminist project could really thrive on a more anarchist platform, as it would lose its ideological consistency. I suppose the irony of top-down authoritarianism being inherently paternalistic is lost on most feminists though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 08:54 PM
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About 50% success rate. I'm very selective about whom to approach though, meaning I'd cold approach maybe 1 out of 100 women in vicinity.
/r/seduction27/08/22 03:58 PM
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the majority of views are so different to what I experience in my daily life. This applies to cultural wars in general. On one hand, what one sees online tends to be without filter, how a lot of people genuinely feel. Yet at the same time, rabid and radicalized due to various opportunistic social media parasites fanning those flames. In the real life, what you see, especially with opposite gender, tends to be pretty opaque. People are simply not that honest about their darker thoughts and anxiet…
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 02:25 PM
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A bit like buying used car from a friend vs one off craigslist. The latter offers potentially a better deal, while in practice, it's a net loss for a lot of people who end up buying lemons.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 12:01 AM
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I'd not call it "complicated". Mercurous. Men typically have a more stable center, but that doesn't help you all that much when you're constantly shifting the POV you're viewing him from.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:43 PM
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I was dumped by a guy that continually told me I was too good for him. He could also have been, you know, realistic - it did work out for the better for you in the end, so his assessment was on point. Whatever the case may be, one anecdote doesn't really say all that much. When it comes to whining, we need to look at general trends (femcel/incel is typically a chronic condition).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:36 PM
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As I said, pills in general. Not just RP evopsych, but hamstering logic that "explains" supposed behavior of opposite of sex, while in reality is biased by situation/views of the observer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:33 PM
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They prefer lower women because they feel safer with them. Possibly. Or you're just coping ("I'm such a catch, men who don't want me are just insecure lol"). You'd need external observer knowing your situation well to tell you for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:27 PM
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They have no problem with attracting women, so they have nothing to bitch about. Same reason why successful career woman won't be particularly assblasted she has a dead end job - because she doesn't. Their bitching might be source of their lack of success (victim complex), but that is purely speculation on your part. Their gripe might be entirely legitimate as well. People on PPD read too deep into insecurity, it's usually not all that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:23 PM
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Yes, men are far more possessive of woman's body. Woman is more possessive of his mind (emotional investment). This may seem bizarre at first, but consider how it fits into imperative of each.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:21 PM
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Agreed. The "study" sought to confirm foregone conclusion. This is rampant in a lot of feminism and sociology (and pills) - if you're just "deconstructing" something, you're just back-reasoning the status quo to arbitrary axioms, not a sound model. Induction can work for basic intuition, but is quite prone to your own preconceived biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:15 PM
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It reminds me of the whole "I'm passed down for CEO promotion because I'm a woman, AGAIN" a bit. Bitch please, that's not how ANY of this shit works. People are just whiny shitheads, the sex differentiates only things they're lacking and feel entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:12 PM
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Yep. Most of cold approaching fails because guys push too hard and make things awkward. I also found its far easier to meet new people (their BFs, friends) like that - it's less "weird" to hit on a girl, than "hit" on a guy from out of nowhere.
/r/seduction25/08/22 08:04 PM
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The whole neoteny stuff is massive elephant in the room, especially common with men who never had younger sister or daughter for paternal/brotherly instinct to kick in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:27 AM
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When women are saying they mostly use make up for themselves, they're not lying, it's like 90% intra-sex competition. There is makeup vast majority of men like - very provocative/neotenous (think belle delphine) one. Same logic follows with clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:22 AM
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It's kinda hard to relate to people who say they truly have no friends, but I suppose you'd run into the same issue like with incels X escorts. Friend or love, either is something you can't buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:17 AM
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I think the neoteny stuff is fair assessment. The woe is me, men are such pigs boohoo is where the ball drops.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:15 AM
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There are good empirical stats on war rape, which I think would correlate fairly well. The numbers are not encouraging (about 30%).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:12 AM
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I mean, don't dunk it until you try it. That said, most therapist follow Sturgeon's law - 9 out of 10 of em are garbage and the good ones is probably someone you can't afford, especially in country like the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:11 AM
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Your 10..7 is completely bunk - those are attractive to women, not men. Meaning they're all hideous instawhore kim kardashian clones. The cute begins at 6 and your ratings are ok from then on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:03 AM
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higher standards and I believe it Same goes for china and japan. This is all self-reported, so not particularly reliable as hard data, but it's just common sense for it to be like this. A lot of women aren't in those categories you've spelled out. Well, there's third category - those who are normally dating, and then miniscule section of weirdos that can be ignored for all intents and purposes. OPs point being that normal dating is diminishing pool, and in some countries already a minority in yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:57 AM
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Weird dejavu, this is what my ex used to say lol. Wish more women were as enlightened, but I suspect there are downsides too (starfish).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:55 AM
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The original point was: A lot of women don't want to share. They'd rather be alone (femcels). That's my perception of both femcels and FDS. I suppose there's some difference - that some women on FDS do seek to improve their situation, just like incels seek TRP to same end. But since either route is pretty ill-advised with results that are hardly measurable, they're all *cels for all intents and purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:52 AM
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Ye, lean is a category of its own. I'm assuming out of shape guys. People in shape I'd label either as lean or ripped.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:48 AM
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I'm talking about femcels the entire time. They can't find the prince charming, or they hate men due to some trauma, so they'd rather be alone. I'm assuming general demographic here, not some aromantic weirdos - most people DO, contrary to popular belief, want to date. And if they fail to do so, for one reason or another, they're effectively *cels the moment they start venting about it on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:43 AM
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Post histories are another good one you can use to asses them. Oh, I have no doubts about the perv simping. However if someone posts bait for attention in slut subs, those PMs are de-facto solicited (and the "outrage" is some cheap karma). While this is bread and butter of the internet since basically ever it gets boring quick as a cringe material. Some incidents were glorious though, of particular note was when r/Drama banned everyone with underage flair in r/Teenagers, and it turned out like q…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:36 AM
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Anywhere not in the US, where you guys started redefining words so as to fatcope. Skinny guy (Dale Gribble) = virtually nonexistent, Fat guy (Hank Hill) = skinny, Morbidly obese guy (Bill) = fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:24 AM
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Dunno how these spaces are now - I purposely avoid all such degeneracy. But in my day (ICQ..), it was pretty common for teenage / college girls to bait simping pervs, then post the screencaps on facebook, all for attention / victim play. I'd suspect basic attention whoring like this is pretty common to this day, especially on cringe subs that tend to be magnet for attention whoring by prodding lolcows.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:17 AM
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Yes, platonic. Again, I can't imagine average woman that would be ok with it, hence why I'm finding the cheating test strictly in sexual sense pretty flawed. Edit: Ah, realized that you mean romantic = platonic originally, nvm. In that case, people are allowed to crush, but never act on it, not even in platonic sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:12 AM
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What about emotional cheating? Suppose: A man has a second wife they don't sleep with, but still support her and her kid (which isn't his). It's not all that unusual as it sounds, either. Especially in middle age when sex is nowhere near as important for some men. IME, women are far more possessive in this aspect, than the sex as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:09 AM
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FDS is about women who WANT to date Sure, so do incels. They're just both really really bad at it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:00 AM
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JJK and MHA TBH, anime is at a point it's almost like capeshit, so athletic guys being into superhero, shonen A list anime isn't particularly "interesting" anymore. It's still pretty unusual to find legit weeb with all it entails - 4chan poster, reasonably proficient with computers, and myal list spanning 5 pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:51 AM
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For men, skinny is worse than reasonably fat. Yes, it's a double standard or whatever, but there's some logic to it too: The bigger (we're not talking obese!) guy would absolutely murder a skinny dweeb of same height in a fight. Women select for fighting capability first and foremost when it comes to physical attributes. Likewise why roided up monsters aren't particularly attractive - they look unreasonably "fat" in overall shape, yet muscular, it triggers uncanny valley.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:40 AM
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JRPGs, and learning new languages It's the justaxposition that makes him "interesting" (covert weebs are common, anime is big these days). If he were 5'10 dweeb, his "hobby" would be offputting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:36 AM
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There are basically two definitions, increasingly divorcing in meaning. The biological definition is apex men - someone who wields power, be it through might, wit or even mere exposure. The breeding male in the pack. The second definition is pop-cultural, the stereotypical hulk silent but assertive chad. While that can have some appeal (more to gay men than to women), it's nowhere near the appeal the apex has.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:30 AM
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All I'm saying that femcels are pretty buttblasted just like incels are. Regardless of whether it is "where all the good men" HuffPost cat ladies complaining that men are manchildren, or the more colorful r/FemaleDatingStrategy, the bitterness is palpable. As for who "hates", that sounds more like twitter tier shit slinging unless we can see something more than vomiting their bile. Regardless, it's pretty obvious both groups are pretty bitter about opposite sex, something we associate with *cel …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:18 AM
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the assumption that communists don't care about money, Sure, that's the agitprop. Yet in reality, they very much do. Otherwise there would be no reason to be bitter about people who have money as is typical of a communist, would be there? Ditto with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:56 PM
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To sperg more generally: Is a just world fiction immoral? Note that large societies rely on a lot of just world fictions in order to even function, as the alternative is to descend into a lot of infighting if people genuinely acted out on systematic injustices. Men are naturally reckless and arrogant. These testosterone attributes arise by necessity - only if you're fool willing to go against all odds you get enough people through the meatgrinder to select for the best, while discarding the rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:46 PM
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As far as agitprop goes, marxism is especially bad one coz their hamster are ridiculous tl;dr pseudo-intellectualism. Surely there must be simpler way to cater to the whole butthurt "I don't have money, ergo, money bad" crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:33 PM
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Sure, and communism isn't about "hating" the rich. Please spare me of the moral posturing spiel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:27 PM
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make assumptions about its proponents, Every ideology does. To illustrate - consider how communists "don't care about money". Their rhetorics is all about how they don't need money and capitalism and need to "self improve" as humans, while in reality, the ideology is very much catered to the have not's who are envious of the rich. Meanwhile, a poor person who is genuinely ascetic wouldn't give a fuck about money, nor communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:23 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:16 PM
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Notice how one swap TRP for feminism and mysoginy for misandry in your sentence, and you arrive at exactly the same. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong about having hangups about opposite gender that renders you adversarial and bitter, be it TRP or feminists. However labeling it as "hate" is pretty much done only in bad faith ideological screeching, or by absolute idiots who genuinely believe microaggressions are hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:14 PM
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Yes, it's purposeful milking of simps for cringe. But I don't see why you're so butthurt about it. They're reddit version kiwifarms, they're doing god's work - the most efficient way to stop being a simp is to get thoroughly humiliated as a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:05 PM
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The issue with your statement is that you equate self-improvement to simping for women No I don't, in the explicit. What I'm saying that if someone is simping (ie RP), they tend to reach for certain caricature to "self-improve" with. RP does openly admit it is simping, because part of the canon is "get over women" - there's apriori assumption that simping looms in the background and it's a habit they need to break via abundance mentality first, perhaps genuinely later if they ever find something…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:58 PM
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Cruelty and social justice aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Just look at every communist scheme ever attempted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:49 PM
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The point is that whenever a man tries to simp for a woman through "self-improvement" (like RP does), they'll reach for stereotype that is primarily same-sex attractive (and women tend to do the same). Ofc whether one simps or not is up to any particular person, but the stereotype of "chad" they'll employ they think is attractive to opposite gender will be stereotypically the gigachad / gigastacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:41 PM
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is calm, assured, assertive, masculine, intelligent, takes care of his body/appearance, etc. Ye, that's the gun totting chad stereotype. It's what men find awe-inspring, and thus think women would absolutely find hot. This is so culturally permeated that men now need to be "red pilled" with various hamster theories so as to explain why the gun totting stoic gigachad doesn't really work that way in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:25 PM
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I mean, I never cared for the female gaze. It's perfectly natural that each sex applies only their own gaze as well projecting it on opposite sex while being largely ignorant of the opposite gaze. In very simple terms: men are sending dick pics because they think women have male gaze, and would find dick pics interesting. The whole "gaze" thing is a technical jargon in marketing, ie if you're targeting to female demo as a guy, you need to know about their gaze, and vice versa. your woman may be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:20 PM
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I suppose boy bands idols don't really get all that much groupies (anymore). Regardless, correct definition of an "alpha" would be something along the lines "object of hysterical desire from a lot of women". Billionaires, pop stars, anyone with ton of exposure (ie even famous criminals), really.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:14 PM
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Calling gurus a "platform" is a bit of stretch, since they're near universally profit motivated media circus. Someone telling you how you can shove healing crystal up your ass won't exactly cure your cancer, nor will it raise the awareness about the issue of cancer too much. Look at what happened to feminism - virtually all their talking heads are media grifters, technically yes, "raising awareness", but ultimatelly spouting bullshit that is the most marketable to their audience, with no effort …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:09 PM
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But what does this mean? (Speculation) New Age Cult MLM scammers discovering new fertile ideological grounds to abuse? I got the feeling that most RP gurus operate like this, Tate doesn't really seem like anything new in particular, save for a wee bit more of Trumpism utilized to self-promote.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:04 PM
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It's been always pretty vague as far as stereotypes go. Justin Bieber is is technically an alpha male as far as RP is concerned, even though he's lacking in all the stereotypical hypermasculinity people often wrongly attribute to an "alpha". I thought virgin/chad meme storm made the irony clear, but apparently most people are just this humorless. men admire different things from men than women do. Formally, you get male and female gaze. Men have sort of gay hots for the gun totting gigachad and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:55 PM
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Nah, that's done when marketing to femcel insecurity, as well as pander to revenge fantasies of incels via ragebait. I don't think you can extend rhetoric of some TikTok idiot to be the mindset of men writ large just because you have a doomer fetish for AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:44 PM
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I think the issue is that women are instinctively mortified of the idea saying "no" to men (fawn response is one of more sensible things coming out of feminist theorists), knowing the primal reaction it evokes. And while vast majority of men can control the sting of rejection perfectly fine, the woman's fear remains, and is projected in all directions "men I dont find attractive = potential source of harm", ergo, hates women writ large.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:06 PM
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At which point society isnt going to care about paternity fraud It's an unwritten taboo for fathers to throw a fit about paternal certainty, and it's been socially engineered since the dawn of monogamous societies. "Virgin" Mary is just theological euphemism for "cucked Joseph". I thought someone mentioned the case of France already for a more concrete example of the dynamic. Of course men are not instinctively thrilled with it, yet on the other hand the elite realizes there's enough BP useful i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:57 PM
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I think choosing to be single is different A bit of splitting hair. Femcels, in original sense of the word, do typically occupy reddit and whine about what losers most of men are, so clearly they are invested to some extent. While calling the "silently romanceless" population incels/femcels is technically incorrect, it's what the words are shifting towards semantically anyway, as people project their own expectations on *cels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:50 PM
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not to be with men because it is easier for them to be alone than settle with a subpar dude It's who most of the femcels in the west are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:23 AM
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1) There are limit to logistics. Not that many chads, each has 20+ harem max. They mostly hog the slutty women, a relative fraction. 2) A lot of women don't want to share. They'd rather be alone (femcels). Again, look at Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:17 AM
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You mean RP guru (or any self-help guru, for that matter) scam market has overtaken camwhore market? That's kinda hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:24 AM
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The red pill acts like when a man is offered a chance at pussy he’ll do anything for it. What do you think of OF simp audience? They're all broken by RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:19 AM
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You said it is in society's best interests to find the real dad. No, it's in society best interest to have some dad. Biological or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:13 AM
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just work better for them, namely OLD To put a hyperbole on it: They talk up a stranger in a gay club, "yo, I'll suck yer dick", and off they go. This is not really comparable to women, at all. Gay clubs were kind of designated hookup places for a given metro area, just like OLD is now, hence "nothing really new", save for a bit of more convenience. When gay dudes hookup, and they like each other, THEN they try to make it work on some deeper level (THAT is a curse I'm not envious of, because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:00 AM
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sought after What does it matter? I think it's pretty well established on PPD that self-reported laundry lists are bollocks, for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:55 AM
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It’s like going on a walk to the park for him. It's a blessing and a curse (easy come, easy go).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:53 AM
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will ever become a reality. Don't forget mass migrations and religion. There's this speculative fiction by everyone's favorite incel (Michael "my wife is asian" Houllebecq) you might be interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:45 AM
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This would suggest a reversion the more open society becomes though? There was a point sometime in the 80s when mass coming out of closet occurred. Anecdotal, but some of my older gay friends reminisce of the "old times" fondly, when closet was a necessity - it forced sort of "monogamy", instead of ridiculous free for all it is now, and monogamy is fairly difficult. Gay scene doesn't really practice hypergamy in ruthless fashion women do, they're far more keen to go for their looks match, instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:38 AM
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Anyone posting on this sub is autistic to a large extent. How's your Downs? Are you planning a school shooting?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:30 AM
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I don't think its entirely out there. Not necessarily born autistic, but becoming so functionally anyway - ie 30%+ men could be simply pretty inept socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:24 AM
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Don't tell me, I'm bi. And men have no problem with male intimacy to the extent most women on PPD think, especially outside of the US. Regardless, the atomizing forces affect both sexes the same in this regard, the only difference is that men lead, women go in tow, and the difference amounts to hypergamy when it translates to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:16 AM
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Babymommas will become too far and inbetween to be statistically significant. Remember, the trend is that of sex dropping for 2/3 of women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:14 AM
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The atomizing forces are affecting both sexes. Even though women always had twice as many same-sex friends as men do, that "sociability" ratio doesn't really seem to have changed in a dramatic manner as feminist rhetoric would want to make you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:09 AM
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There is possible explanation: Gay scene has been always somewhat ruthless as well as atomized by its sparse nature. Meaning they've reached whatever limits of hypergamy they had in the 80s or so, and they have no further to go. I'm not a fan of the comparison to heterosexual dynamic, too much of an apple and orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:02 AM
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Venn diagram of “sex” and “intimacy” isn’t a circle. Sexual bf + emotional bf poly? I suspect there's a limit to how far you can push this with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:59 AM
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Women only wanna bang Chad? Want, but can't, so they don't bang anyone, save for relative minority (20% or so) who opt for FWB/serial dating/P&D. We're basically mirroring the trend of Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:55 AM
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Very well researched, especially how the medians of N count can be deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:50 AM
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Trust me, I can recognize anger management self-help when I see it. I'm not saying it's bullshit either. All I'm saying that it's not really applicable in a lot of instances of anger, nor does knowing mantras that neurotic people use particularly raise their social skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:30 AM
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Possessiveness (as a character trait, ie raging when posession of an object of libidic desire is denied) is quite applicable in the situation portrayed (cheating). Of course you can insert insecurity in there, but that's typically post-facto cope with some therapist quack, or a real thing when people are actually obsessing over shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:18 AM
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AUSTRIA IS RIGHTFUL MORAVA-HUNGARIAN CLAY
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:47 PM
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I'm aware of the framework you're trying to use. I'm simply opting to use different one, specifically not trying to insert emotions that aren't really there, as that tends to be a massive hamster to self-pathologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:44 PM
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Yes, austria has ordnung, we have p much the opposite of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:43 PM
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Spoken like a true crusader :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:40 PM
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Where did the possesiveness come from? Whatever else you wanted from the other person and is now violated. Regardless of what that is, it always existed before, and contextualizes the anger you subsequently feel. Do note that posessiveness isn't really a feeling per se, as it manifests only as an initial want, and then when violated as anger but otherwise exists as a mere state of affairs (unless you're neurotic). Is this making any sense? Are you understanding EQ any better? No, you still talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:09 PM
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insecure But the possessiveness always existed and most people are self-aware about, it didn't magically spring up into existence the moment she cheated. Only anger did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:56 PM
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shame, hurt, insecure, rejected, offended, hopeless, abandoned, depressed, disgusted, dismayed, foolish or miserable? Quite possibly most of those, since most of those is contextual rephrasing of anger. Still, I don't see how that connects?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:43 PM
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I'd say there's adequate amount of drama relative to the cheating - women are far more possessive than is typical of the west (and often cheat on possessive impulse to "keep score"), and men are pretty keen to cheat. What's different is that people don't break up nearly as much over cheating as one would expect in western countries. Basically there's a lot of morality thrown around, but people are kinda live and let live in regards to adhering to it. Germans have a word for the opposite of what …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:39 PM
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We're very victorian in this regard. On surface, it's all very trad, look only slightly beyond surface, utter degeneracy ensues in all directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:29 PM
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Nothing, there was simply an event that triggered the anger. Fe, I get cheated on, I feel anger towards the girl the moment I learn of it. What I felt before (my possesiveness of her?), I just don't see how that connects in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:25 PM
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In central european culture, it's low key expected that flings will happen. For both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:24 PM
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You mean angry out of nowhere for no discernible reason? Again, doesn't really happen to me (most extroverts suffer from this, though). With the exception of misplaced anger I've outlined earlier (usually being angry at myself, but ego doesn't easily allow to see it).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:17 PM
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I'm conflicted, on one hand, the hubs behaves like a teenager with the whole begging for sex dance. On another, she's a total immature cunt herself. They were made for each other lol, I feel bad for the kids tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:08 PM
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I'll take the cute femboy anytime over a pixie haired hambeast, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:05 PM
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So you mean introspection in general? Again, I don't see most introverted people who are struggling with their "EQ" being particularly bad at it. It's typically problem for extroverts, who rely on others to show em a mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:59 PM
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I narrowed down your meaning, since it didn't make any sense otherwise. When people rage at themselves, they typically externalize ("somebody's else fault" even if it isn't), or internalize ("it's my fault and but I deserve it"). Self-hating is basically the only instance where people get confused when introspecting rage, due to massive self-perception blind spot. There are other instances (eg your idol can do no wrong, so you blame shift) when rage is pointed incorrectly, but generally somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:51 PM
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Using "having intimacy" as an euphemism for sex, outside of context of sugaring is something truly deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:45 PM
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VAGENIES
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:38 PM
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I just explained exactly what it is You talked about hamstering, introspection of self-hate and empathy (vaguely). All these things are real, and socially retarded people can be very good at all of those in a limited context, yet they'll still have "low EQ" as far as cosmogirl is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:33 PM
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You convienently omitted the EQ part. As I said, I don't believe EQ is a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:28 PM
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Obviously a fawn instinct. The guy is clearly trying to rape her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:26 PM
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This involves quite literally going back thought by thought, emotion by emotion and figuring out what caused you reaction. Sure that can be nice sometimes, but social retards typically overintellectualize to a point of absurdity (hamstering). EQ would involve figuring out those emotions and thoughts that came before anger and what triggered the cascade. Only absolute idiot doesn't know why they're angry. Anger is a very pointed emotion, who the fuck needs to delve on it? Now, if you're talking s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:14 PM
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Just neckBEard yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:07 PM
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I've elaborated on the other side of the coin elsewhere in the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:01 PM
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Honestly? I think it's a cosmorgirl-esque meme. If one were to force it into personality matrix anyway, it would probably share dimension with openness (imagination) and agreeableness (suggestibility).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:00 PM
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your lack of understanding mens issue Do you honestly think most men need your rulesheet?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:55 PM
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Can't be helped, tamponboy (emotional boyfriend) and fuckboy (sexual boyfriend) just sound so much better than beta/alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:49 PM
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We're the ABCDs of PPD:: Autistic, broken, cynical, deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:46 PM
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Btw, learning to discern gender from posters tone is a good start to practice yourself some EQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:44 PM
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Ye, if there's will, there's always a way to make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:41 PM
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Yep, I too am worried about feminist "victims" LARPing in r/rapekink and r/slutyconfessions as of recent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:36 PM
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I’m a 29yo hetero female So young, and already herding cats lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:33 PM
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"Prime pussy * WASTED * on those damn rave bad boys." Nah, this is PPD, the autism, not drama, will always prevail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:31 PM
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All else being the same? Not all that much, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:29 PM
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and that it's existed since the beginning of humanity. Feminists do have a religious canon for that. See bonobo, noble matriarchal savage etc fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:27 PM
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I think u/KombuchaEnema says it well. Yes, if she's hysterical she wants you to be her rock she is forced to mirror. But that's only one of the cases, and fairly rare one at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:22 PM
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I think that most (reasonably socialized) men do pretty fine. When woman is bitching that he "doesn't open up" or that he's "not in touch with his emotions", it typically means she doesn't understand him, and is often pretty poorly equipped to do so - only constantly trying to impose feminine style of her cognition on him, leading to frustration of everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:18 PM
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When I’m venting my emotions, I want engagement. Nah, it means people want for you to empathize. Ie actually imagine yourself in the situation, and feel the same emotions. Mirroring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:12 PM
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Without thinking about the rules, then we're talking some degree of social acumen. Following some sort of rule chart at any given time is just autistic masking. I suppose it can work to bootstrap autism into socializing properly, but on its own will come off as fairly wooden and uncanny valley-esque.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:07 PM
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At a minimum it made their partners feel more heard. That much I can believe, but I'd be worried it would explode over the long term. I'm not a fan of RP-esque rule based systems, as those typically fail to account for a lot of heuristic people naturally do. Stuff like "reading the room" are notoriously difficult to explain in explicit terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:59 PM
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Miley used to be barely contralto, but tried to sing in that range, which put a lot of strain on her voice. She had a larynx op for this reason, so now she speaks raspy like an old woman. Cher speaking voice is natural, but slightly higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:51 PM
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Miley Cyrus post op? Her speaking voice is still feminine (like an old woman, heavy smoker), as it lacks bass accent on syllables the way men do. She could definitely imitate full male voice if she wanted to with ease, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:48 PM
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Cher voice (contralto)? She should definitely consider a singing career, uber rare and sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:42 PM
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I've dated femboys. Whenever they slip in their voice, it's a massive turnoff. As for women, it's no big deal, as it's pretty much impossible to reach below barytone for most of em, even on TRT.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:37 PM
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How is a normal woman even supposed to look like now? BMI < 22 (excluding outlier frame/height).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:34 PM
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imagination and mimicry And intuition. Those are probably some of the prerequisites, but I think the larger problem is people refusing to apply to those in their life, be it for relationships or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:32 PM
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How's that working out for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:30 PM
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Yes. Or rather, "just for sex guy" and "husband material guy" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:28 PM
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Ngl, sounds kinda hot. Ie some RP guru telling the hopeless sissies section of their audience "dude, just femboymaxx" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:09 PM
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You have no idea how difficult the logistics of fucking someone you don't find attractive are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:08 PM
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stereotypes Talking to a man = becoming a survivor. Hear hear ladies, this is some untapped TikTok clout right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:06 PM
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Doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:04 PM
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and just start fucking each other already. For better or worse, life isn't yaoi manhua.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:02 PM
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He's the male version of Kim Kardashian, manufactured controversy and bad boy/gurl and all. Just selling to their audience whatever fiction they desire. The difference being that Tate et al can milk the liberal butthurt for everything it is worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:58 PM
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What got them to this place? Anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:56 PM
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Can’t call all dating handicaps equal but I can’t see how replacing ugly with autistic fixes the OP’s opinion. OP is arguing that when the guys LARP status like he "disproves" by browsing Facebook. That one can magically whisk the autism away through stereotypical masculine signaling. However HF autism takes far more effort than just surface level the way RP purports it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure most of people on here had their phase at least. For weeaboo stuff, one can kind of understand because the media is pretty much unmatched in terms of sheer output and variety - the japanese are way ahead of anyone else in escapism. Whatever your autistic tastes are, the weeb shit has you covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:33 PM
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ugly *autistic. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:25 PM
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I'm an urbanite desperately trying to escape the city rat race. Bought land near river, rented out an excavator, now trying to level the place and make foudations for my cuckshead for the past three weeks. The heat waves and rain definitely don't make it easy, tempting me to quit. It's cottagecore posts like yours that are keeping my wannabe-villager spirits up!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:35 PM
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That's one of my gripes with TRP/FDS. It's a laser focus on a purported silver bullet "ideal waifu/husbando". But having opposite sex to validate your existence is doomed to fail. In spite of their other flaws, MGTOWs are far ahead ideologically in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:21 PM
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Imagine your therapist giving you a whore prescription. I think it's a clever idea, but seems like it wouldn't work in the long run. Japanese essentially went this route, to no avail. People ultimately desire intimacy, not just sex. Sex is in the spotlight because it's easy to point at, but there's far more to loneliness and alienation than just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:14 PM
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Sure, majority of posters cling to few memes they spout over and over. But that's not an issue for chan posters. After a decade of seeing memes becoming overused, stormers, qanon boomers and other idiots barely register on your radar, they're just another fad in a long line of many. /pol/ is just the new /b/, the containment board for the firehose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:59 PM
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Twitch dropped the ball with camwhores, tbqh. They were in perfect position to implement OF paywall, but instead opted for pretend "morality" nobody is going to believe em anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:54 PM
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Is it because they actually don’t like what they claim they like? AKA they don’t feel comfortable and normie enough around “unadulterated” free speech because it attracts bridge troll people with mental issues. I'm a frequent chan poster, and the vibe is just different. Chans are a loud stadium of people shouting, one over another and sometimes you hear a really interesting opinion, that's what makes you coming back. It's pretty much the opposite of echo chamber, because dissenting voices - no m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:41 PM
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I do agree OP is just fetishizing "gentle giant" chad in her leap of logic colored by infatuation. That much is obvious - and perhaps show of emotional intelligence to see it that way, which could be what she was getting at in the first place. Her example with astrology signs is a more explicit one. Point is, it doesn't matter who is hipster or not. The point is whether people understand why they're pretentious and why that works (or not).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:30 PM
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misogyny Frankly, it doesn't exist in vacuum. You can hamster it all you want about it being reactionary to loss of male privilege - and maybe it is. But that doesn't change who shot the first shot, and who aims the sights in return. The more people start framing gender dynamics as conflict, not a compromise, the faster the downward spiral and a genuine ideological conflict it will materialize as.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:24 PM
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That's the mindset, but words are not matching the action. There's no organization, no war rape, no sharia law anywhere in sight. The beta uprising is a powerful fantasy the likes of Tate can monetize, but one that hardly ever translates into reality. Regardless, it's very bad idea to do because women are still the enemy in your head, you still think there's a total war. Ditto for women with hardline pinkpill mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:13 PM
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Hardline RP for women is just pinkpill. I like your enthusiasm, but "opposite sex is the class enemy" isn't exactly new. I think it was women who invented it, and it had some success because they could do it as a collective action for a while. I've yet to see RP becoming viable fighting force. So far it looks more like a school cafeteria brawl, everyone for themselves hyper-individualism. That can result only in chaos and banditry, not any semblance of "victory".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:06 PM
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Travel is fine, but where, how and why is important. Most people are interested in tourism, not travel, but women especially lack the grit to genuinely enjoy it. The backpacker sexpatting scene is a sausage fest for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:00 PM
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For gay relationships, there's no well defined in-group/out-group, thus no "war" to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:57 PM
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No. Hardline feminism/pikpill vs hardline incels/redpill essentially amounts to Total War between genders. Nothing good can come out of that, as each side is seeking total domination over another, not a compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:54 PM
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Going to art galleries does not mean you process your emotions a certain way. You need to at least pretend to be pretentious (huh?) if the target of your affection is a long legged socialist. vaguely artsy dude I'd not dunk on hipsters that much. Surely something what they're doing is working.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:45 PM
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I'd say women get off from getting an emotional reaction from a guy. If you mean emotional on his own, that's emotional labor, carrying his baggage etc for her. Also, for the love of god, if a woman asks you your sign (or birthday) do NOT go into dismissive mode about astrology, True. Try to anticipate the zodiac sign she thinks you are and say that. If she gets your birth date later on, just say you have no idea which date corresponds to which sign (seriously, who does?).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:20 PM
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An unsettling amount of groping occured in hospitals before they employed sex workers & to this day it is still a very high paying job because it is so fucked up. I'm in one RN, does this mean I'm a enough of a victim to demand a sex worker? Sweet. Could really use one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:10 PM
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Hey, this is reddit. One can't exactly expect peak intellectualism of tumblr or twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:06 PM
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Hemorrhoids. Literally getting assblasted here, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:05 PM
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Just really really bored (am in hospital).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:25 AM
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analogous You're still stuck in circular reasoning - if you believe in what OP says, then we have an analogy. You're just one of those people who think Chad is real and shit. Hm, another unrelated wtf accusation out of nowhere. So you are actually minimizing the horrors of Nazi Germany. Leading to non-sequitur conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:22 AM
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I don't understand what that means. You mean a blackpiller, for instance, is trying to pad up their self-esteem with the doomerism? I'd call it more like a cope strategy, for most pills actually. Most of the time not something people would wear with pride and sense of accomplishment (except for TikTok ragebaiters, but that's a very different dynamic from PPD).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:15 AM
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Are you autistic? You do realize how sardonic tone works? How would women around the globe in a completely uncoordinated fashion participate in eugenics Don't ask me, ask op if you're so invested. The nazis didn't know how to do selective breeding properly either, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:12 AM
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The number #1 problem that people have is trying to prove their worth. Depends if you wear the label as a fashionable identity statement (hello, Tumblr and TikTok!), or just drop it casually as a summary of your opinion, but otherwise don't flash it. I agree that anyone who says IRL that they're "red pilled" is peak cringe, but what's wrong with doing it here in this sub precisely? In here, it is generally useful to know what ideology your debater subscribes to, so they don't have to explain it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:04 AM
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I really hate explaining irony, but here goes OP (serious): Achktually, inceldom is just survival of the fittest, what's so wrong with it? Me (in sardonic tone): "Achktually, German Nazism was just survival of the fittest, what's so wrong with it?" Now, an eugenicist or someone like that would actually agree with OPs line, and thus start equating inceldom = genocide from the paraphrase. In case you don't agree with op line (i didn't even bother reading ops post, its just something utterly idioti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:50 AM
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Only PPD can contain autism of this magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:45 AM
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Wait, so this is all about you just missing the tone mark? Geez.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:41 AM
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Again, "Achtually, German Nazism was just survival of the fittest, what's so wrong with it?" ^^^^ please explain how this says "Inceldom is the same thing as holocaust" I just don't see it, unless I'm someone really obsessing over the idea already, and trying to fit it on whatever is tangentially related. legend: inceldom = men who can't get dates sentence in quotes, Achtually = ironic tone signifier
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:35 AM
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I also am horrified anyone would compare inceldom to genocide. Yet it was the first thing you asked, entirely out of context. Granted, I had to probably qualify in my original smirk that "survival of the fittest = nazi germany", but you had to make it "men who can't get dates = genocide". I wonder what was your thought process to twist it like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:17 AM
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you insert (create) things like eugenics Well, you did the same with genocide, and implying that inceldom = genocide. Such implication out of nowhere are confusing, as original question was mere "survival of the fittest" together with nazi germany ideology. Sure you can use darwin for genocide apologia, but it's a bit of curveball to just throw it here out of nowhere (unless you're a nazi). So are you eugenicist, or not? Don't be shy, we're on reddit, the den of right wing weirdos lol. no real u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:57 AM
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You sounded pretty much like randian eugenicist. As far as their "surival of the fittest" ideology goes, there's not much difference from nazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:32 AM
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You sound like a hyperbolic git True. I did choose "literal holocaust" to provoke, so as to make people stop using this pseudo-darwinist idiocy. It's not how any of this works, regardless of whether you hamster it like a nazi, femcel or an incel, your idiocy is all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:24 AM
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In the west women largely decide which men reproduce and which men don't. We're dimorphic species, and here's how our sexual selection actually works: You let men kill/enslave each other, and from what remains women select. But what happens if you let all men live? You cut one part of equilibrium off and dysgenics are inevitable until the entire system realigns over span of thousands of years. I just don't see the great tragedy in some men not getting dates or having children. Their frustration …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:11 AM
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But not everyone is going to reproduce. Just the way it is. Not everyone pairs off. Some people live alone and die alone. Usually because other humans find them off-putting for whatever reason. Sure, I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing your pseudo-darwinism. Real evolution exists in an equilibrium - just enough intraspecies conflict (sexual or otherwise) to drive selection, just enough cooperation to benefit as social species. But this is no longer the case, for a loong time - the humanity has…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:49 AM
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Sexual selection? Would be applicable roughly 100k years ago, around clan warfare for war brides. We're homo economicus, baby, in case you didn't notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:37 AM
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No, I'm saying that any social darwinism is idiotic - be it of nazi variety or randian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:30 AM
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I'm not that well versed in darwinist genocide apologism, but wasn't darwin against slavery?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:27 AM
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Ok, Ayn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:23 AM
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The sub sure did a number on your spelling. Damn ESLs!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:18 AM
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Pinning either to "it's just evolution" is idiotic, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:06 AM
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There are also responsible pet owners of both genders. I thought the pathology was made clear (social substitution). You’re generalizing with no facts to back it up. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gender-differences-in-involvement-animal-cruelty-Data-from-Gerbasi-2004_tbl3_233515933
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:43 AM
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I’m going to pretend you’re not insulting my husband That wasn't the intent, but the way you said it painted certain picture you probably didn't have in mind. and it seems like he and his male friends just don’t need as much interaction The whole point is that male friendships don't need to be "maintained" on continuous basis to begin with (emotional grooming). I’m a specialized type of clinician. IC. For general clinician it could be quite useful, given that significant amount of americans seek…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:33 AM
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Like how men define the quality of their friendships by the extent of sacrifice they’d be willing to make for each other and women’s relationships don’t reach that level. The generalization is intued as there's not much of data to reliably back the assertion, as follows: Men generally have fewer friendships than women (ground truth) do => it follows that they'd value (and subsequently invest into) each friendship more. This assumes that both sexes expend relatively comparable amount of energy to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:16 AM
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Your training is showing, all wishy-washy refraining from directly making strong assertions one way or another :) As with most things there’s usually more within-group variance than between-group variance. It's the principal component ("stereotypical case"), not the outliers (are you sure you and your surroundings are reasonably representative?) that define the group, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:42 AM
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Yeah, I mean if someone says it like "Scientists says" and such, I'm definitely tempted to ask "which ones?". But things that aren't prefaced with appeal to authority are implicitly opinions for informal debate. (i won't give citation on that, it's just common sense lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:50 AM
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I’d even argue that most conferences I attend are female-dominated. I only dabble, so my perception is largely from psyarxiv. One thing about gender ratio that's especially hilarious is how feminist therapists are utterly butthurt that male therapists have double the salary, absolutely ignoring the massive supply-demand dynamic at play here. Yes, my friends would absolutely sacrifice. My friend’s kid got diagnosed with cancer and I drove hours home and arranged stuff to help them financially. Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:45 AM
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My husband has a handful of friends from HS he barely talks to. If he gets stuck on a highway with a broken down car, one of em would gladly waste half a day to drive 500 miles to get him out of a pickle. To men, quality of friendship measures how much sacrifice you'd be willing to do for each other. I have at least three women in my life I’d call on my worst day imaginable. Would anyone of em actually do shit of significance, or are we talking only emotional hugbox? I’m a therapist, for example…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:22 AM
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But I ask in several ways of he wants to talk and I try to learn his language. The thing is, men don't communicate things via individual feelings, but in abstract ideas. Take bro code for example - we have bro code not because we'd care about feelings of our friend on case-by-case situational basis like women do, we simply have a code of honor that's presumed implicitly and doesn't need to be communicated at all. This goes further - we have model of behavior of what the other person would do in …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:47 AM
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But him being able to share how he feels is absolutely crucial as well. As I said, men can do it only consciously, we need to remind ourselves of particular feminine communication style, we need to learn to talk to women. It's very unfair of women bitching that men don't this or that, because men do, for womens sake. Women on the other hand have a very hard time of meeting men across, which is why the whole "being in touch" talk irritates me so much. It's because when he doesn't express himself,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:27 AM
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being in touch with emotions I think you'd need to be far more specific than that. Masculine emotional life is introspective (we're nowhere near as much in touch with how others feel, nor are we invested to make them understand how we feel), feminine is extrospective (care a lot about how others feel, and express a lot to make others understand how they feel). Whenever woman tells me that I'm not in touch with my own emotions, I'll press to be more specific. 90% of time we'll arrive at blatant p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:05 AM
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If you piss off broken horse, they'll still bite you. If you piss off abused horse, they'll just passively take the abuse and bash their head against the wall of the stall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:56 PM
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One way to make women relate: Look at tomboys who were pressed into a feminine role. In same vein, if you press boys to be feminine, all you'll accomplish is covert resentment of that conditioning, and direct opposite of your social engineering goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:52 PM
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I don't think that pent up aggression is particularly controversial subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:47 PM
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Yep, the attitude is p much normies REEEEE in there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:41 PM
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Outside is gross, it's where plants cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:38 PM
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Women on there are just being considerate, which is fair. Men on there are just BP deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:37 PM
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They do indeed, just not in ways women would stereotypically tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:35 PM
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What an echo chamber hugbox does to a MF.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:33 PM
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Whenever you hear buzzwords that don't make sense even after translation, you know you're talking to an idiot who's unable to peek at their own emotion, relying on euphemisms only to obscure meaning. "chemistry" = infatuation "connection" = makes you feel safe / he wants to protecc "creepy" = social retard is looking your way, or whatever other ick (horror movies etc) that is triggering your own social anxiety As for source of those, using euphemisms comes to women pretty naturally and indeed it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:02 PM
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I'm not that familar with Carr. Assuming it's all in the vein of this, not particularly my cup of tea. Netflix exec thinking along the lines of Can we do Jimmy Kimmel mass appeal, but "safely edgy"? Deadpan comedy is very hard to land. Basically only the likes of Tim & Eric in the US, and traditionally brits can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:45 PM
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As far I can tell, you're a shrill femcel with a chip on your shoulder that men want stacy, and not you. Ergo, they all want sex, and any talk about emotional support must be a lie. Am I correct so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:27 PM
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"Achtually, German Nazism was just survival of the fittest, what's so wrong with it?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:21 PM
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Men don’t want emotional support from women who aren’t their mothers. True. Or rather, the dynamic shifts from sexual to motherly when this happens. hey don’t give a flying fuck about emotional support They do, but you won't find that many men who'd consider a random woman - or a man - worthy their respect. You're still projecting how emotional support and respect works among women, which isn't really applicable with us. Men are far less inclined to trust ("respect") implicitly compared to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:11 PM
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Wait, are we talking about emotional support, sex or respect? All three are very different things only tangentially related.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:03 PM
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men aren’t nice You mean the whole "no homo" being touch starved thing? I think it's a little bit overblown, or rather, women throwing their own ideas of emotional support at men. As a guy, you won't suddenly start feeling less lonely and useless if you start hugging with strangers. Meanwhile, poker game and breaking balls at a pub can amount to something to us. I can call up those guys to help me move furniture. The sex difference in nature of our group emotional bonding here is quality (men de…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:58 PM
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I'm reminded of Pim from Smiling Friends for some reason. You could eat out of garbage cans if you have no money for groceries. Broadening your food security options, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:52 PM
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She has to be the one saying "no". When a woman becomes very grabby feely with you (because she automatically assumes you desire her), and you say no for whatever reason, she'll lose all interest pretty quick. Reactive libido, remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:42 PM
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Yes, most women do consider it affront when she's not feeling being desired by the object of her affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:38 PM
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It's just telling you should go out and spread/receive DNA in fact, not just in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:36 PM
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📠
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:34 PM
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Be My Rock = "Be confident in yourself, because I sure as hell am not".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:32 PM
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Yup. Centrists are first to the wall, regardless of what revolution cometh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:30 PM
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Be a rape-culture denying feminist, and go counter both femcel (stacy exists only in your mind!) and incel (chad is your own gay fantasy!) worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:29 PM
1

Individualism. Even in asia, matchmaking is becoming a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:26 PM
7

but I've noticed women increasingly use this argument too TikTok femcels is the fastest growing gen-z marketing demo now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:24 PM
2

Not into fashion or art What's wrong with that, it's essentially her only good quality compared to the rest of the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:23 PM
2

As malls are disappearing, mallcore is becoming a lost art.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:20 PM
3

Insecurity => overcompensation. Part reason why femcel kween hamplanets can't get a bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:17 PM
1

Find your inner pygmalion, and buy her a wig.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:16 PM
1

But if Seinfeld was iconic for you then that is fine. Back then, both shows were pretty revolutionary spins on the Friends formula. Seinfeld with male centric bent, SATC being female centric. Both shows relish in selfish and idiotic characters, however there are practical differences how selfishness and idiocy (for comedic exposure!) manifests between genders. Understanding the characters at a face value ultimately means you didn't get the joke - often the case with men who don't understand SATC…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:05 PM
2

Larry David is hardly extreme. I'm comparing within the period. SATC was run by a gay man, but most writers were female in there. It was female-demo targeted from the get-go after all. selfishness and idiocy Yes, the typical understanding of male humor from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:58 PM
1

different extreme You mean SATC "extreme"? No offense, but that's just bog standard romantic comedy schlock. There's nothing in there that could be considered genuinely dangerous - it's all too safe of a female power trip, nowhere near the extremism of Seinfeld or Sunny. they reward women I think there are women who can write for male audiences and are highly respected for it, it's just matter of very low numbers. Aubrey Plaza, Tina Fey etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:53 PM
1

Hey, at least being pretentious is a start. "Nice knowing you, bye." It's a bit better if you're familar with the religious canon, eg "Feminism is For Everybody" or some such ridiculous agitprop, and compare it to more coherent female philosophers (Florence Nightingale, Erin Pizzey...). If you're not that well versed in it, she's right in that you're just blindly hating. Feminists are often guilty of this when it comes to TRP/ MRA / Incels too, so the ignorance definitely swings both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:42 PM
1

if only women could just laugh at a rape joke we could all get along better? Anything that's in the extreme is taboo to most women, yet the more taboo cognitive dissonance you pit against in a joke, the better the joke is. I don't think men and women could ever see face to face with humor, as this is a divide that underlies the fundamental difference in their temperament - women are very unlikely to entertain extreme ideas, ever - their ick and survival instinct kicks in and immediately assume h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:31 PM
1

We're talking about the craft, not their personal drama. Indeed CK is miles more funny than Amy, yet the style ultimately is "i'm fat / gross / muh genitals" for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:27 PM
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Men make jokes about their weight and penises constantly. What are you talking about? lol Amy Schumer vs Louis CK. I like a good rape joke when it's actually funny. Most men aren't as funny as they think they are. It's very obvious in comedy writers rooms. SATC is hysterically funny to women, while the humor is lost on men most of the time. The few men who do understand merely understand how it works as a craft, but aren't particularly fond of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:23 PM
3

A good example of this is rape jokes. Men joke both about prison rape, as well as raping women. But only women are instantly butthurt about it, it's simply too crass for their taste and the loud volume of the counter-fact is not in tune with their sense of humor. Meanwhile, "i'm fat / my vagina" jokes are somehow hilarious to women, whereas men are scratching their head what's supposedly to be funny in there - it's just too low volume to register.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:10 PM
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Our humor and other counter-factual speech is so in your face it's patently obvious to everyone. Women are far more subtle in this regard, so it comes across as ambiguity to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:06 PM
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Ppd makes things way too deep I'd say PPD just formulates the question poorly. Right here, we're talking "why aren't women funny?".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:04 PM
1

The most egregious part is that most women put little effort into the conversation and are lukewarm at best to average men talking to them. Ever talked to a feminist? Women definitely can be opinionated, question is, why would they be inclined to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:01 PM
3

Alpha would excel at the first game. Think big megacorp CEO vs small but disruptive startup CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:56 PM
1

Like, is it you just don’t care? More or less. If the game is rigged, start a game of your own. The issue is that this means massive risk taking and stepping out of your comfort zone, pretty much the opposite of what self-professed "sigma males" do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:54 PM
2

How come no one told me how clothes worked when I was in my 20s... My mom tried to, but I didn't listen. Presentation = representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:48 PM
3

THERES A SIGMA WOLF INSIDE YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:46 PM
4

"Citation needed" are the two magic words which basically mean "I'm scared to death of ever being wrong, so I can't even articulate a (counter)opinion of my own".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:42 PM
0

The movie is pretty decent (it's fucking Fincher, could we expect otherwise?). The source book, on other hand, insufferable romance schlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:36 PM
2

You need to fap less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:31 PM
1

Consider which sex is far more likely to be in the closet, and thus stay on the fringe. It's not really a good example anymore, btw, as homosexuality is no longer pushed out to the fringe by mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:48 PM
1

I posit that sociability in and itself is largely an effect, not a cause. Its easier for anyone to break into an out-group, but only if they're willing to mold their opinion to be in line with that group. This invariably pulls you towards the status quo mainstream, where bigger and more powerful groups are, but your opinions become more bland in the process. Fringes are specific in that they're isolated - both from mainstream, and each other. They place more value in their opinion, unwilling to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:45 PM
2

Fringe means just that, fringe. In any context - outcasts if we're talking sociability, but it can be also very simple opinion things, unrelated to sociability at all, like B movie cult followings. If you ask an average person about some thing, thought or endeavor, and 90% have no idea, it's a fringe thing. Incels used to be fringe ("wizard") until they entered status-quo by mid 2010s (hence why femcels emerged in tow). It's true that being a geek is more accepted in men, than in women. But you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:31 PM
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I'm not really sure how sociability and pedestal really plays into it. Affinity to harbor fringe opinions seems to be more about risk taking - opinion fringes is the place from where new winners emerge, should their opinions turn out to be more useful than a status quo belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:26 PM
1

Depends on how vapid a given culture is (yes, that is a body image issue in and itself). In eastern europe or germany, lawyers and politicians don't need to be nearly as tall, teeth don't need to be nearly as white, and fat people are tolerated a bit less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:26 PM
2

Nobody really gives a shit save for bipartisan politics grifters. For as long it's a hour drive to get an abortion. Abortion tourism bans are interesting, but I'm not sure if any state ever managed to enact those.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:07 AM
1

I've sperged about it elsewhere, but context is important. If you cry or seek comfort because of your factual weakness that could impact her in the future, then it's a brownie point down. Nobody cares about sentimental bullshit, on the contrary, its a brownie point up because you're "oh so sensitive".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:03 AM
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Not really for most people, mate guarding instinct operates mostly with same-sex romantic rivals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:50 AM
1

Sounds like infatuation with a certain type. I had my muse too, but turns out it's possible to meet another, and the old one can pale in comparison. Narrow range of experience can blindside us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:46 AM
1

I'll say, "no matter what shithead you are, god still loves you" makes for a pretty nifty cop-out to circumvent the entirety of christian morality. Oh and btw, you'll end up in hell, but god still loves you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:43 AM
3

But what about demonic possession?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:41 AM
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This. And it gets even darker - one of my friend couple were "gifted" with a severely retarded child. Whenever I'm over for a bit of friendly binge drinking they share their darker thoughts. It's clear how are they torn between the unconditional love forced by nature, yet utterly despising their fate. Another friend of mine is a mother with PPD, describing essentially the same. She outright loathes the breastfeeding instinct and various other hardwired responses to child's cry. It is love, for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:18 AM
2

Even that is dependent on biological phenomenon. Now you're just splitting hair. Specifically hormones. I'm afraid that kin-affinity is a bit more involved than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:06 AM
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Yes. Paternal love is deeply tied to paternal certainty and mate guarding instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:04 AM
2

Do note that PC/console game industry only doubled from then (40b->80b). Whereas mobile went from 0 to 90b. This correlates with average hours spent playing too (3x more). This doesn't mean that addicts are playing more today. It only means there are 3x more addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:49 AM
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Ye, wow definitely was one of the early trend setters (for me it was EVE) in mid 2000s. Still, online addicts were an incredible minority back then. I think the real tipping point of internet geeks ceasing to exist because everyone became one were iPhone, Facebook, twitch, e-sports and internet bandwidth becoming cheap enough for video (youtube, binge watching and porn) leading to the mainstream becoming terminally online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:38 AM
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Porn and video games were a thing long before sexlessness. That's just matter of progression. Porn mags and Doom? Not nearly as much exposure as Pornhub and Steam. There were simply not that many computers to waste your time with as a cope. Now every single person in the west has one in their pocket. Computer geeks were geeks up until mid 2000s, but became the new normal from there on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:00 AM
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Africa isn't really pre-industrial, but for whatever little of rural self-employment they do have, they're indeed out of the wage slave loop. They're still extremely poor compared to mediaval europe once we adjust for the time period, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:56 PM
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common man since they were too occupied I recommend you to look that up. Does the average miner in rural Africa worry about whether life has meaning? What the fuck is average rural miner in africa? Most Africans have no jobs of this sort. If you wonder whether average 3rd world wage slave wonders (subconsciously) whether their job has any meaning and it all feels pointless? All the fucking time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:43 PM
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Why is it a bad deal if women make you wait because they want to give you more than their body? Because men want women for sex first, everything else second. Whereas to women those priorities are in opposite order - meaning woman is forcing her priorities on the man, contrary to his own, which gives rise to the conflict. I feel like we were over this like million of times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:39 PM
4

This is often understated factor for why RP guru scams work so well - majority of incels (i think 80% or something ridiculous like that per incel.co polls) are from single parent homes. Easy pickings
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:36 PM
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There's was a window where women got franchise which made men "optional", yet internet didn't exist yet. The left behind effect correlates too closely with social media, video games, porn etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:33 PM
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Sure, but you're talking after industrial revolution and urbanization, where situation was nearly the same as it is now. Sure people primarily wanted to make money (consciously) even pre-globalization, but they also felt they were needed by the people around them (subconsciously).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:28 PM
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There wasn't much welding as a specialzied profession going on pre-globalization. Think blacksmiths.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:23 PM
1

And frame and height, yes. Just assuming average looking white european folks here, not outliers. This is a problem with fashion models with BMI ~20 especially - since they're ridiculously tall women most of the time, that's well into unhealthy area.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:17 PM
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The globalizing effects are far more reaching than just this. Think about sense of purpose - before, you did a job as a craftsman for your community, and you did shit nobody else (within reach) could. Nowadays, people buy the cheapest shit from wage slaves in china, all of us beaing easily replaceable. This absolutely wreaks havoc with our sense of self-worth in ways most people don't even realize (save for few OG leftists who are now long gone, replaced by corporate sponsored identity bullshit)…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:56 PM
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I think the anorexic model look (BMI <18) is over the top. Just keep it healthy folks. BMI 25 limit is kind of a fatty cope, more realistically its around 18-22 (for women).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:48 PM
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For 5'6 women, it's well into chubby chaser area. Do note I'm not in the US where anything under BMI 28 is considered "thin".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:38 PM
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"Fatter" than BMI21, per original question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:35 PM
1

Yes, that's how quotes work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:32 PM
1

I've obsessed over Berserk and Gintama as a kid. Can HxH compare?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:16 PM
0

BMI 23 is "fatter", regardless of muscle, as far as most men are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:05 PM
4

Here's how ragebait works: camp A: say something outrageous ("women are whores") camp B: say something outrageous ("men who say women are whores are rapists") camp A stans: be outraged at B camp B stans: be outraged at A stans .... voila, both A and B get clout from clueless stans. People like Jesse Jackson were in the baiting game for a very long time, this is just its modern iteration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:01 PM
1

Musclewoman bad. Death by snoo snoo only when Grug desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:57 PM
1

Toxic Avenger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:55 PM
1

"By getting him a gf, you whore" Sounds like ragebait, but it's kinda cute never the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:53 PM
1

I'd say about 1/3 are able to overcome their rape anxiety so as to be able to actually hookup with strangers. RP has no idea what the limiting factors are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:45 PM
1

I ❤️ u too, smegma.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:42 PM
2

Shots were fired first from you, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:38 PM
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Pfft, US being behind japan and finland by like 10 years. Leading "hegemony" my ass, no wonder you lost war in Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:37 PM
1

running for fuckin president Word. Worked wonders for Clinton lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:18 PM
2

F. Loyalty, ie not flipping even if it would be very convenient to do so. Do note that this is different from D), think wives of criminals who didn't flip. It's extremely rare for women to be like this, as it goes directly against their survivor nature. Most of bonding in this regard happens only as bromances. RP often hamsters this as "monkey branching", but have no real understanding of the underlying impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:05 PM
3

Exactly. The dude strikes me as an incredible square. Of course that's not a hookup material, lol. His sole problem is that he desires to be out of his comfort zone, without actually stepping there. Midlife crisis, but too much of a pussy to act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:54 PM
1

For me, it's a personality issue in general, not just women - there's certain aspect of self-conflicting machiavellianism, where I compromise moral principles for immediate gain on an impulse, and later hate myself for it, so I cling to morality some more until I get sick of being a chump, and jump on some opportunity... Aaand it goes back and forth like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:44 PM
1

Reasons I've heard the most is being "shifty", "slimy", "irresponsible", "rude" - which is not necessarily false. Most guys in my culture have a tendency to act very square towards gf-MIL, which I despise and do basically the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:28 PM
1

visually This is extremely misunderstood in popular culture. Most men are absolute dogshit at aesthetics compared to women, ie we're opposite of visual. The only thing we're visual about is neoteny signifiers, all else be damned, she could wear rags and as long shes not fat, men wouldn't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:21 PM
0

What about really degenerate erotica/manhua?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:17 PM
4

Whenever people say that anorexia is "extreme" body image issue, I'm always reminded of legit lookism guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:16 PM
1

Integrity, sense of being true to self and ultimately self-respect. Better question, is it really worth it to cling to those?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:11 PM
1

No you must me gay or you ain't got enough dick. There is some logic behind it, basically "prove me wrong" (by showing ur not gay and fucking me, or showing me your dick, thus fucking me). I suppose it can have some success with idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:05 PM
1

Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:46 PM
1

Not with this amount of despair, there's been always some upbeat cheekiness (for pop, typically some "strong gurrl" undertone for in female-targeted whining). Ditto with more symbolic artists, think Joji going full depressive episode vs Joe Haweley.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:38 PM
1

Would, assuming he'd ease up on the self-tanning cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:29 PM
1

Whinecore means just that, whining, in teenage angst fashion about self-inflicted woes externalized into existential despair. Emo is just historical origins of it, and trap is where it's at now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:24 PM
1

I think if you're self-aware and analytical Nobody is really that self-aware. You can compensate, sure, but impulsive biases of your "rationality" and self-reflection are a closed loop, where self-reflection happens post-facto (too late), more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:20 PM
2

Dogs are loyal, dangerous and intellectually inferior to you, the ideal emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:15 PM
5

You're such a bad boy now, expect a horde of fangirls obsessing over your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:11 PM
1

Whinecore irritates me to no end. Can somebody who listens to this shit (entirety of gen-z?) shed a light on its appeal?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:07 PM
0

The intuition is "His feelings, his fault.", and I do largely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:05 PM
5

Reminds me of this classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:50 PM
5

Just break your shins, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:35 PM
1

Nope. You need to sperg harder. As for very recognizable "usual suspects", wtknight, decoy, poppy and blackporcelain in recent few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:32 PM
1

eToro is a bit deceptive with their slippage. Also the psychology is entirely different - it's very easy to be rational with fake money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:26 PM
1

Yep, harmonious red-pill is 100% wumao approved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:25 PM
2

From my POV, it's fairly rare on here. Other relationship subs are littered with it. Also some tone tags are used more like figure of speech. A classic from the old internet is: <outrageous hot take designed to catch your attention> j/k <elaborate more reasonably about the hot take>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:18 PM
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/s = I'm a self-absorbed sissy, assuming everyone is a retard and wouldn't detect basic bitch sarcasm so I need to school em so they understand how brilliant I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:10 PM
2

I'm not sure if simping for/infantilizing/patronizing your gf is necessarily "loving".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:57 PM
2

I'm giving benefit of doubt and assume they're just exceptionally bad debaters. Another common thing on reddit, how people become super defensive when you're talking about a generality, or even sb else in the specific, and they jump out to defense assuming you're talking about em personally. That's not just bad oratory skill, but outright being self-absorbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:54 PM
2

Only if he gets the full InfoWars treatment. I don't think he will, the guy seems reasonably well versed in how to play the ragebait game.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:48 PM
2

Fathers either love me (we go fishing, work on a car and such), or hate me (cue guy with a shotgun stereotype) because I've soiled his baby princess or something. Mothers almost universally hate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:44 PM
1

"Magic mirror on the wall, who is the fairest one of all?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:41 PM
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Women seem to be better keepers of status quo than men are. It's why you're seeing so very few women at the fringes of society. I think a better question is what does open-minded even mean? Is propensity to go with the flow - and thus throwing stones at fringe opinions - being open minded? Or is defining yourself against status quo more open minded?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:34 PM
1

Why? Affairs is pretty much how majority of hookups happen for an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:28 PM
0

It seems like every person has their own personal take on Freud. Mine is that only parent's love is unconditional (assuming sane family). If you expect unconditional love from a girl, you might as well shag your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:24 PM
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A bit too much of a Tsundere IMO. My fav self insert from that show is Kaji, as he speaks to my inner slimeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:10 PM
1

Oedipus complex. Freud did nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:04 PM
1

Literally that one Bojangle horseguy episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:02 PM
1

Not everyone is so eager to fuck their mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:01 PM
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The point is that if women are already willing to believe the lie, why would incels feel the need to be "honest"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:57 PM
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On r/AskMen there are recurring threads "did you lie about being a virgin with your first?", and answers pretty consistently being yes, save for disney and religious relationships. “I’m afraid if I fake it she’ll know” becomes “women don’t want men who had to do work to improve themselves. Therefore there’s no reason to bother improving myself.” I think there are ways to positively hamster it. Eg, women need to hear it so as to feel safer if they think you know what you're doing, even though you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:40 PM
1

Whenever I get post-history hate DMs, I take it as a badge of honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:32 PM
2

How true is the idea that women want a guy who just “gets it” with dating and are turned off by guys who had to heavily invest themselves in order to become good with women? Women are exceptionally creeped out by guys who "get it", as in, openly verbalize their emotions. The key is to "get it", but never be open about it. Pretend-telepathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:29 PM
1

Point by point is largely because of femcel dogmatism, ie back-reasoned feel-good hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:22 PM
1

Practice gf: When inexperienced guy gets social proof, aka "only when I have a gf, other girls are into me, so I cheat with someone hotter than my fat slob of a gf" effect and don't realize whats happening. Nor does his soon-to-be-femcel gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:19 PM
0

B-but if you look like a monster, you're a monster!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:17 PM
1

liberals: BREEDER FETISH!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:15 PM
4

I'd call it Shinji/Rei effect. Cute anime girls doing cute anime things. Whereas anime guys are insufferable losers most of the time. GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT, Shinji. Meanwhile, Rei silently doing what needs to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:09 PM
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so clearly people want to report others for trolling The key is to shitpost in a deadpan. Sometimes even the mods do a little bit of trolling in removal reason when dealing with comments sb is butthurt about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:54 PM
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It's how reaffirmation works. I've seen the quote pitched out thanks to you, you showing doubts about it working in so many words. But the tl;dr is: The article is garbage, on account of buzzword list used by self-help scammers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:36 PM
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I'm doing the opposite - talking about the article being utter garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:32 PM
4

I'm not quoting you, silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:28 PM
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level up mental health game therapy to cure autism Jesus christ, I just skimmed the article and didn't realize it's this sort of buzzword laden garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:26 PM
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Do you think that most men can’t get into a relationship because they lack basic decency? I'd not say "most men can't get into relationships", but it's definitely true that a lot of men are really bad at reading the room, subtleties of first impressions and such. They don’t show any initiative, they expect you to treat them well and guess what they want and make them smile and make them the center of your attention even though you’ve never met before. You won't catch any fish without a bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:23 PM
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Saying a 26 year old girl is post-wall sounds me as surreal and absurd as saying a 5'10.5 man is short. I don't follow RP/incel mantras all that closely, do they really say that? I was under impression post-24 is a slow decline in looks. I always assumed the true "hard" wall is when people start getting fat and gross, which can be anywhere between 28 to 35 (depends on ethnicity and culture a lot), with few unicorns who put in the hard work rocking the scene well into their 40s.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 06:13 PM
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It depends on vibe a lot. If it genuinely looks like there's a bf (or ex-bf) on her mind when she says it, that's usually a go signal. One has to also telegraph you're not there to call her on her bullshit (if there's any), but you're trying to genuinely meet new people. If she feels like talking about her bf (sometimes ex-bf she's carrying the torch for), let's talk about her (ex-)bf! The PUA shit comes across creepy only when the words don't match the intent, the interest has to be real. IME, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:37 PM
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What it really means, don't leer like a perv, both verbally and in body language. As far I can tell, there's certain prerequisite of being smooth. Grocery store? Helping/venting about idiocy of self check-out cash register, striking up convo about cooking when you "accidentaly" reach for same product, that sort of thing. As long you leave plausible deniability for both of you, you're pretty much golden. But if a guy goes all "m-may I ask m'lady on a date?" to a stranger, what the hell do they ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:21 PM
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oh no thank you I have a boyfriend Ever got the classic PUA counter, "tell me all about him"? Fake wedding band is my favorite talisman. I'd just say hubs must be one damn happy guy, then proceed the same as with "I have a bf".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:10 PM
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If I sense being crude would work, I'll be crude. Sometimes it misfires. Yes, it's abusive or w/e. Sue me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:56 PM
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Nvm, your question seemed phrased as rhetorical (ie what does she think about his intent).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:52 PM
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I'd pin it on survivorship bias. Most guys are just benevolent misogynists, which doesn't make for a very good TT clickbait. Only very uber feminist types who take sexist jokes about rape, kitchen, not being a CEO etc all too personally would probably think it's worth "exposing" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:45 PM
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21yo women are anything but naive in this regard. Women become hyperaware of their sexuality and its effects on men by the time they hit 12-14. It's basically forced practice, because they're encountering male thirst on constant basis. What they are naive about is when mind game shaenigans ensue. Think 50yo gentleman future-baiting her with promises of getting her a showbiz career.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:34 PM
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She knows, and is content with it. She thinks she can get some profit from it, without having to put out, just by cock teasing some delusional grandpa. And most of the time, she's right on the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:24 PM
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So you're still going to ignore the whole thing where one talks to a girl to figure her out, and she doing the same of me? Guys just give a long look from thighs to tits, and then jump straight to rape or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:20 PM
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You've probably never threatened to rape and kill someone after rejection. Well, that's just common sense. I presume most guys who try to cold approach - even in cringe manner to be worthy a video or DMs repost - know better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:16 PM
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I have nothing but positive experience with exposure. I still fail to understand how it's a threat or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:10 PM
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Why is it always women who insist that sex and emotional connection are mutually exclusive? I hit up a girl, and yes it's clear as day am trying to get into her pants. But how do you come to conclusion I'm not interested in her as a person as well? Always presuming the worst case scenario, are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:05 PM
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Those are obvious exceptions, ie don't piss where you're mixing the potions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:00 PM
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I don't see the issue. Free PR. Fwiw, most of tt celbait is staged.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:54 PM
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It is the fastest way for a woman to get out of the capitalistic system that will only exploit her and work towards being an independent business owner that can spend her day doing w/e she wants and meeting whoever she wants. This is pretty meh as far as marketing copies go. My hats you're only LARPing as a promoter, or you're a glorified camera at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:03 AM
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You're a 13yo minecraft youtube kid, and you have no idea how steep the competition is. It's basically "when I grow up, I want to be a CEO of Tesla". Sure it's a nice dream to have - the path is perhaps more important than the goal, but one needs to be realistic about the odds of anything interesting happening. For every Belle Delphine, there are literally millions of camwhores struggling. As for experience, video editing is not as glamorous job you may think it is. As for networking, going out …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:47 AM
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What do you think? Good slut cope. Basically same argument of "free love movement". It doesn't work, because there seems to be intrinsic mismatch in supply/demand. When women by and large start acting like men on Grindr, then we're talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:44 AM
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I don't think its a matter of morality, but self-inflicted ouchie due to their own idiocy. Think chad chasing 20 something feminists whining about "all men" being mean to her. Think incels not really trying to give a fatty or a cougar a chance, even though they'd find something there, if just for the experience to climb higher. It's those cases where people are criticized for, not for "morality".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:35 AM
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It's trivial for women, because their sex drive is pretty reactive. Meaning they don't attach to a guy who doesn't find them attractive. When you have a dick and balls its different - no reactivity at all, you're attracted even if she clearly doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:29 AM
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tiktoks/podcasts/YouTube and has that as a networking tool to meet the other content creators/influencers in your city. What is this bullshit, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:24 AM
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A) But I'd constantly try to get into their pants, so it's not as easy for em. Guess that's why all my woman friends are fatties, uggos or too old in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:15 AM
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If we were to dig up your backyard, do you think we'd be more surprised to find skeletons, or we'd be more disappointed by their number?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:11 AM
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Would they tolerate this partner cheating? Being physically abusive? Emotionally abusive? Being hot and cold? Constantly asking for money? Being mentally ill? Ignoring your boundaries Yep, all of that. Look up some poly lifestyle vloggers. Look at the pain in the eyes of the most uggo guys there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:06 AM
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"Oh my god I was wrong about all of the things! Maybe I should fuck the guy I'm not attracted to." There's a small minority of RPW, as well as PP men who clearly give a vibe of reformed incels. Nobody says to fuck uggos, but I think the point is to throw your shit at the wall, and see what sticks. It's quite good for self-reflection, provided you don't join some hardline incel/feminist cult where you try to fit yourself into their dogma. But the game hasn't changed since the beginning of time. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:00 AM
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Become a content creator, work on her brand and mingle. This is what majority of teenage girls already aspire for. Crowded market, recipe for disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:55 AM
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I would say over thinking comes naturally to women and it can be a form of bondage but deep thinking isn’t negative. I personally try to steer clear of over thinking. I'd put it more harshly: Anxiously inclined thinking, worry and fears, both about self and others. The mom effect seems intrinsically linked to it - anxiously overthink, and subsequently overcoddle. Men do basically the oppopsite, we don't sweat the "small stuff", which seems to irritate women to no end lol. A classic is cheduling …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:36 AM
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deep think I presume it just comes to women naturally, it's the female equivalent of being 'smooth', instinctive avoidance of assuming direct control. If she needs to think about it this hard, it would come off as wooden and unnatural. I've encountered this once - one very masculine lady who tried her best to act feminine so as to make an impression. You won’t risk over stepping because you’d never over step - if that makes sense. Yep. There's an exception, though: When we don't actually feel ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:17 AM
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I think the key is for you to "take control", but in feminine fashion. This means subtle suggestio into thinking it's his idea. Kinda like when you're telling your boss he's wrong. If the guy has some sense (which I presume most HVM would), he'll leave you an opening. To illustrate: You: "I think tomorrow would be perfect for a picnic" Him: Sure, let's go on a picnic tomorrow. Tomorrow: He's impressed you had the perfect place picked, you had a lot of stuff prepared making it obvious you planned…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:53 PM
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rape victim Strawman. Even the most trad countries allow abortion for rape victims. Doesn't mean they'd allow abortion. Ya'll are welcome to fight for everyone to be drafted, Nobody gives a shit about draft. Women are useless at war, near every single one that had been on the ground will admit that, too. At best, it's a red herring "issue". for greater equality in the justice system Yes, gynocentric bias is massive in there and not something any politician would dare to fuck with. They'd become …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:42 PM
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bake him some cookies or brownies and decorate the box yourself I can't get the Trigun donut scenes out of my head. plan a picnic and organise the foods, blankets and make a cute dessert like miniature tiramisu May feel lil bit too much mom-esque, but then again, I'm by no means a chad. write a card it doesn’t have to be lovey dovey if you don’t feel comfortable you can make it light hearted but still uplifting “you’re absolutely the best” Yep, compliments that stroke our ego work universally on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:33 PM
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I think the idea is that the venting anonymously on the internet is the "bad personality". People then jump to conclusion they're whiners in general, which may not necessarily be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:27 PM
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Humans would be self aware about where their feelings are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:23 PM
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It’s not some weird power play. That is, until safety match in your doorlock, or having to repaint your car.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:21 PM
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Men are welcome to advocate for this stuff! For anti-feminist policies and cultural narratives? That's political suicide. Even half of conservatives are begrudgingly pro-choice. Not because they'd believe it, but because it's a political necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:13 PM
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A lot of women on PPD often argue "men would act shitty, if they could". That's not how ANY of this shit works. Your entitlement grows as you're allowed by the situation and it eventually imprints. Spoiled vs well brought kid doesn't make em somehow equal just because the well parented kid "could", in theory, act spoiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:58 PM
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I don't get why so many men jump to taking away women's rights. Easy, the political power results in policies and culture that are patronizing and infantilizing women, because it's a very easy sell to female constituency. So if you want patronizing policies to go away, what other answer do you have? Don't tell me it should be politicians who should change. Of course proper answer is that women should take responsibility for themselves. This approach is a bit more visible in nordic countries. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:43 PM
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What world do you live in where young women are brought up to be insecure? TikTok does. Most of modern social media thrive on a rat wheel of female insecurity. It's very easy to be insecure if you're bombarded with images of unrealistic standard you'd compare yourself with, all the while your parents told you how wonderful you are. This is not something you can "educate" about, all you can do is to curb your narcissism and be realistic with your place/limits. The problem isn't that young girls a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:33 PM
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The visibility of it is enough to make it gendered, though. Most men simply don't have the options. Whereas morbidly obese babymomma in the US can act ridiculously entitled and get away with it. I agree that men are enablers in this situation, but if they genuinely "took responsibility" for it, I'm not sure feminists that are giving this suggestion would be thrilled with the logistics of it - removing the female suffrage so as to remove gynocentric populism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:20 PM
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Sure, but that's consequence of alienation. Take finland for example, on one hand, their self-reported well being is the highest in the world. On another, the relationship scene in there is on a trajectory of japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:12 PM
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one solution. i think that the solution is to educate both boys and girls about healthy relationships and to teach them to respect each other as equals. Awww, Education! moreover i think that we need to teach girls to love themselves Don't you think people are self-absorbed enough? failure to thrive means that your well being is compromised and that is something that this culture perpetrates It could be also externalizing your own failure. Why bother to improve, when you can blame the environmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:01 PM
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Pretty much. Women (and men!) have no problem projecting their insecurities on others most of the time, but all too often have no insight into what goes on with themselves, or the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:55 PM
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In a place where vast majority of profiles don't, it's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:47 PM
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For women, I'm guessing it's to gain respect the same way a man would within a male peer group. I suspect pickmes just equate 'attention = respect', which couldn't be further from the truth. If you utilize the simping pedestal to pad your merit, all it does is diminish the room where you can stand on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:20 PM
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As far were trading online gaming anecdotes, I used to run a small corp in EVE about a decade back. If you're unfamiliar with the game, it's basically space capitalism on steroids where enormous amount of people need to cooperate in a corporate hierarchy of space industries, conquest, piracy and clan warfare with neighbors. At one point we had to kick out all women from the corp, pickme or not - simply because 90% of guys were thirsty and couldn't keep their distance. Stealing gear for the girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:59 PM
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The predictability is also double edge sword, because a girl who is legit gets immediately accused by guys who hate pickmes, but are not really all that good at telling em apart. This is especially apparent with women in tech. There are workarounds, for example women who are legit tend to hide behind male/neutral screen name in relevant spaces (GitHub etc). A pickme will of course upload her profile photo and use her pronouns, which is usually a dead giveaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:40 PM
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I feel those are easily sussed out because their surface level understanding of whatever that is would give it away. One would think, right? But turns most men are all like "this is pretty good ... for a girl". The pedestal is complicit in enabling it, even if they clearly suck. The few who try to call it out are jumped by whiteknights, further validating the pickme. It's a pretty toxic dynamic all around. But really, if a person could pull off a long con of being good at something for the sake …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:24 PM
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because girls are all shallow and stupid I suppose the irony was not lost on most people. I'm reminded of the 2000s emo/scene where you could find the most pretentious types of both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:17 PM
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People simply didn't believe she could have an interest in such hobbies unless it was made up for pick me points. I suppose that's because of sheer exposure. Pickmes invade sausage-fest spaces precisely because it's male attention on the budget, but having no real interest in the male endeavor. They merely keep up in the competition, but never really try to compete. You know, the usual W40K or D&D dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:12 PM
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Pickmes and niceguys are essentially covert narcissism. Sooner or later they explode into a ball of drama when they're not given the object of their desire in return for them "being nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:04 PM
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"On one hand, I'd like to shy away from conflict of opinion, on another the conflict is so personal, my nagging instinct uncontrollably kicks in."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:36 PM
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FSM = female support matrix. It's a relatively obscure pillosphere meme. Denotes that female power structures are organized more like lattices where you get support from all directions and behaves a bit like hivemind as you need to constantly morph to fit in "your place" there. Compare with top-down hierarchies of male gangs, often isolated from each other. More ruthless, but also more diversity of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:04 PM
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I'm all for more cougars, so more power to you. But so far it seems you're all talk, no action (in my country, age gap in 15-35 group is 5+ years).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:50 PM
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The FSM borg mind has gone too far!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:41 PM
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Is this a group account for majority majority of 23F women? Or is it just you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:39 PM
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Liberals: "AOC should be 40yo when your brain is fully formed" Conservatives: "AOC should be 4months old fetus at which point it's a person with personal resposibility"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:36 PM
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Nah, in general with men - loser or not. FWIW, TikTok incelbait is really bad frame of reference. Most of that content is architected to trigger incels in the first place, and even then this is one is pretty mediocre at that. 90% of incels don't really mind cougars (they'd be happy even if a MILF gave em time of a day). This is entirely separate issue from wall revenge fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:51 PM
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Sane people do find reasonable arrangement, wife allows a mistress, for as long the wife can trust her husband he doesn't get emotionally invested too much and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:47 PM
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Sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:46 PM
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Bitter sarcasm bordering on bad faith. Where's the view one is supposed to challenge?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:42 PM
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Are we talking actual young women, or incelbait influencers on tiktok? Consider groupies, suddenly age gaps are no longer an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:36 PM
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hit the wall too hard! He deserves better, it's un naturalne, he is a beta, stupid feminist!". Does this really happen? I can definitely hear all the whataboutism from incels, but no way a guy would complain about cougars that she is "too experienced" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:30 PM
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FWIW, it think it's a bad idea because young people are just fucking annoying and dumb due to lack of life experience wisdom. To much older people, their problems all seem trivial, while for the young person it's a genuine struggle. This leads to the older partner trivializing their experience, and the resulting frustration breaks the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:28 PM
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You need to translate "maturity" or "experience" into "power". Women are rarely literal creatures. Read the subtext.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:26 PM
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You're assuming "implied" category too broad. Women are typically anxious - concerned about future (including mans reaction to her r/hotpast). What is OP implying is male jealousy, and female anxiety. Yes, both are neurotic, but ffs get your context straight before you try to attack semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:18 PM
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