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| 0 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?My SO does. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?I was talking about MGTOW in general, but I guess you apply too. Fighting what? Way more than men do. No more than men do. Yeah, I agree. It's not all women, but I do think it's most. Most women marry/LTR men who are pretty much equal to them. Guys at the bottom don't get much But redpillers are always complaining how women only want to fuck lowlifes at the bottom of society purely because of their looks, while them high-earning high-standing confident alphas don't get any. Which is it? You may … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?Afraid to say no is not rape It is rape. Sexual coercion is grounds to accuse someone of rape. "Consent" under duress is not consent. Convincing someone to marry is also rape by that definition Not necessarily. How did you convince her, exactly? Lie to her about what? Your intentions and your character. By the way: rape by deceit is a thing too. Is that like lying via makeup to make yourself attractive ? Make-up isn't a defining quality like intent. You have no idea what "rape" is You don't deci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 01:51 PM |
| 3 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?straw rp It's not straw when it's real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?They come bitter because they had stupid entitled mentality, and they stay bitter because they have a sub that feeds into their stupid entitled mentality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 12:04 PM |
| 3 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?No one says lie to the woman and rape her Yeah, they say to lie to her and push through her LMR - don't care if she's too afraid to say no! That's rape too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?There's a distinction. Red Pill is still trying to "win", MGTOW gave up No, that's not true. You say you gave up but you're still here whining just like terps. Why don't you really give up and shut up and disappear for good. You saying women don't trade up? No more than men do. And not all women. I'm not going to say that men don't use women for sex because those men exist... but those men are also the top men No, they are not. They are losers at the bottom of society who only get with desperate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?which you seem to agree with No I do not agree with it all. Conscientious people blame what needs to be blamed, which might be themselves but might also be the system. Context is essential. Did I say that anywhere? So you agree, good. You won't change anything with your attitude If I can save someone from redpill predators that will be enough. Redpillers can disappear forever for all I care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:36 AM |
| 2 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?there are no objective feelings associated with these things There are no objective feelings associated with getting laid. Conscientious people have a really hard time when they get fired (because they blame themselves) What? Plenty people conscientious people know they did nothing wrong and still get fired. They might have a hard time but not for the reasons you imply. You can't infer their feelings from your feelings I can call them out on their actions, which are unacceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?quality men don't care about what women want A man who doesn't care about what I want isn't a quality man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:23 AM |
| 5 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?Controlling yourself is the opposite of rape culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:21 AM |
| 4 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?No because in your "self-improvement" you forgot this vital "don't be an entitled hateful piece of shit" part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:20 AM |
| 4 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?listen to what RP says A failing sexual strategy sub looks like with all the bitterness and anger in it. The red pill came from game being awesome Then why is everyone in it so bitter and hateful and angry? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:18 AM |
| 3 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?Porn and sex are nowhere near perfect substitutes Speak for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:15 AM |
| 4 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?I'm not a red piller. I'm more MGTOW Same drivel is same drivel. It's basically accepting hypergamy as a thing and not treating them as people that can actually love you Lies, in other words. Thanks for confirming that. but people who are only going to love certain things about you Like men who only love women for their bodies and only when they are submissive to them? That's all redpillers here. What a bunch of hypocrites. they have no problem discarding you once they're done with those certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:14 AM |
| 4 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?I wrote "in this context" that is in the context of redpillers. Learn to read. My SO wants me sexually. That is good, that is normal, considering he is in love with me. It is not rape since I want him too. But redpillers use "male thirst" as a justification for lying, oppressing, deceiving, lobbying to deprive women of their rights, badmouthing, hurting and harming those they claim to "love". See: "women are children" "women should worship men" "women don't need to be respected" "women having ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 11:00 AM |
| 2 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?Red Pill is kind of a philosophy that because women suck Quote your fellow redpiller about an angry man: His only chance of escaping the anger phase is learning to accept women as they are But how can he learn to accept something his own cult tells him sucks and is, according to you and to them, horrible mean bad? You admit the redpill is a hate ideology and your fellow redpiller is lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?"Male thirst" in this context is rapist excuse bullshit. Porn can satisfy any sexual urge perfectly, and you have plenty of porn for all tastes. You are just weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 10:18 AM |
| 6 | Are red pillers making sex/relationship too much of a priority?a sexual strategy sub the redpill isn't about women, it's a self-improvement sub Which one is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 10:12 AM |
| 2 | The Blue Pill thinks this is how Red Pilled men behaveHis only chance of escaping the phase is learning to accept women as they are By making up lies about them and being always hateful and resentful they aren't slaves to men? That's what redpillers do. That's not accepting someone as they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/17 09:53 AM |
| 9 | [discussion] IMO unattractive women dating way above their league isn't as common as you might expect.You know what I've never liked, not as a girl, not as a woman? The idea of my guy considering me a "insert number here" and wishing he were with other girls he considers prettier, even more so if it's because of peer pressure from other guys. If he wants to be with other women, cool. He thinks they're better than me, ok. He's free to be with anyone he fancies. But he's not free to waste my time if I'm not the only one he wants. That's the only number I care for, being the one for him no matter w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 03:35 PM |
| 5 | [discussion] IMO unattractive women dating way above their league isn't as common as you might expect.More like: A."Hey, you seem to be in my league looks wise. Are you seeing someone?" B. "Not at the moment" implying B is infallibly going to think she looks the same as you implying B doesn't have her own standards implying desperate incel A is going to accept someone who looks desperate like him Hahaahahahahahaha Duuuuude. Self-perception is subjective and it factors in multiple things. That's why your little fantasy doesn't work. Attraction and self-perception is more than just looks. only con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 03:16 PM |
| 4 | [discussion] IMO unattractive women dating way above their league isn't as common as you might expect.Yeah, I've always found that attitude repulsive. That's why I chose a man who doesn't do shit like that and why I always kept myself away from boys even if they shared my nerd hobbies and preferred the company of other girls even if they weren't into D&D videogames. Even if other girls weren't into the same things I was, at least they had the decency to let me be and let me enjoy my nerd loves in peace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 02:59 PM |
| 6 | [discussion] IMO unattractive women dating way above their league isn't as common as you might expect.A: "You! You're in my league!" B: ? A: "Have sex with me! I demand you have sex with me and be my loyal adoring waifu right now!" B: Wtf. Get away from me creep. I want nothing to do with you. Poetic, in a way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 02:16 PM |
| 5 | [discussion] IMO unattractive women dating way above their league isn't as common as you might expect.How horrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 02:04 PM |
| 1 | [discussion] IMO unattractive women dating way above their league isn't as common as you might expect.I don't get you people. It's like you write in English but speak an entirely different language. Why would any woman bother with "oh no my partner is out of my league" and other such useless nonsensical crap? I like him, he likes me, that's what matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 11:28 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Monogamy requires commitment to limit sex to each other, but also reasonable access to sex. If you deny access, you have broken the monogamous agreement just as much as an affair would have.If voluntary sex with your husband when you're not in the mood is rape I don't know about you, but I firmly believe if you're not in the mood then you should communicate so. Say "I don't want to. Not now, not like this," whatever. Unless you have reason to fear for your safety, in which case you should GTFO asap, be explicit and direct. Expect your husband to respect that communication. If he doesn't, and forces you to sex you don't want anyway, then yes, that's rape. It's not false imprisonment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 11:12 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Monogamy requires commitment to limit sex to each other, but also reasonable access to sex. If you deny access, you have broken the monogamous agreement just as much as an affair would have.I don't see the correlation here. OP is a guy who feels entitled to cheat on his wife because he isn't getting enough sex, when really he should just divorce. She will be better off without him too. If the guy in your example decides not to go out of his volition and he's okay with it, it's his decision. If he feels pressured not to go out and it is against his will, it would be best for him to divorce too. Your example is not clear about this. You must be a big Dworkin fan Nah, I like porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 08:11 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Monogamy requires commitment to limit sex to each other, but also reasonable access to sex. If you deny access, you have broken the monogamous agreement just as much as an affair would have.Oh wow! Two whole examples? That's more than your own life example which you keep bringing up. :) Neither of which have a family Where did I say that? you must be an expert! Just stating the reality I know, which is not like yours, since you act like you're an expert on women and divorces here. According to the latest census and the CDC, 9 out of 10 women who can have children will have them by the time their fertility window closes http://www.census.gov/hhes/fertility/data/cps/2014.html Percent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 07:12 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Monogamy requires commitment to limit sex to each other, but also reasonable access to sex. If you deny access, you have broken the monogamous agreement just as much as an affair would have.Exactly how many divorces have you experienced up close and p personal? A family friend and a coworker. Friend lives in her own property and is enjoying her newfound spinster life while cheater husband lost his job. No idea about coworker's husband but she lives in her own property too and is very happy with her dog. Do you honestly think that a woman not getting to be with her children for half of the time for their entire childhood will really make her happier? Depends on the woman. Lots of wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 04:46 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Monogamy requires commitment to limit sex to each other, but also reasonable access to sex. If you deny access, you have broken the monogamous agreement just as much as an affair would have.And this leads to this regardless Nah, that's your wish. Lots of women are happier without men, when said men do not care about them. When she won't do that for her partners? She won't do what, let herself be raped by her partner who demands sex when she doesn't want it, without any care or regard for her needs and wants? Yeah, how shameful. Women should just let men rape them whenever they feel like it. How dare they think of themselves too. Is it appropriate that women just take take take with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 04:20 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] Monogamy requires commitment to limit sex to each other, but also reasonable access to sex. If you deny access, you have broken the monogamous agreement just as much as an affair would have.You cheat, she has the right to dump you and cross you out of her life. Why should she destroy her life and the life of her family when she can just rid herself of someone who doesn't care about her when she could be with a better suited man who fulfills her need for respect of her sexuality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 08:45 AM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Do you believe Red Pillers when they tell you they are not misogynists and just want to help men improve themselves?No, I think they should all stop protesting about every goddamn thing. Safe abortion, affordable health care and birth control != every goddamn thing. Safe abortion, affordable health care and birth control = Safe abortion, affordable health care and birth control, or, on a broader scope, women's rights. People are protesting for their rights. Nobody's protesting because they aren't getting their lives ruined by trash like you. Men also face inequality and social injustice but we are taught from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/17 02:23 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Do you believe Red Pillers when they tell you they are not misogynists and just want to help men improve themselves?You don't see them out there marching, shouting, and crazily waving pickets though Because no one is denying them their rights, unlike the women's right to safe abortion which is currently under attack? You think people who see their rights being robbed from them should just sit quietly and accept it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/17 06:44 AM |
| 4 | [Discussion] Do you believe Red Pillers when they tell you they are not misogynists and just want to help men improve themselves?living with cats being unhappy That's impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/17 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Non-RPers - are there any issues you have seen the other side of, softened on, or become more sympathetic to, since reading subs like this?There are superficial things that people will reject you for even if you have the nicest personality on earth. I respect their right to reject me for whatever reason, since I want my right to reject people for whatever reason respected, too. Even if you think their reason superficial, it might matter to them or me. People want to be desired by living breathing human beings with free will. It's great that you are comfortable living alone with kitties and puppies, but I think most people would be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/17 01:59 PM |
| 3 | The flip side of deregulating sexual marketplace.That's some incentive not to get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: How come most societies throughout history INCLUDING current day China are Red Pill if its just "fake"What's wrong with paying the bills? I just paid the electricity bill. I like having electricity in my house. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: How come most societies throughout history INCLUDING current day China are Red Pill if its just "fake"TFW I met my man at >30 years of age and he's 10/10 quality to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 05:18 PM |
| 5 | Q4BP: How come most societies throughout history INCLUDING current day China are Red Pill if its just "fake"I thought you people hated gold-diggers? And hey, a man doesn't need to be rich to keep a wife, women can work good jobs too nowadays. The SO and I earn about the same amount and together we can afford a more than comfortable lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 05:13 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: How come most societies throughout history INCLUDING current day China are Red Pill if its just "fake"But they're already older according to Chinese culture and they're still not marrying? Also wtf, first you urge them to "obtain a good man" then you bitch when they want what you terpers call a "beta" which IS a good man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: How come most societies throughout history INCLUDING current day China are Red Pill if its just "fake"They realize that OLD women are usually at fault for their own predicament. Why is it a fault though? What if they want to be alone because they're happy like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Non-RPers - are there any issues you have seen the other side of, softened on, or become more sympathetic to, since reading subs like this?See if anything, this is one of the things I don't agree with. You'll have to take it out with your fellow redpillers then, because even those on r/marriedredpill advocate setting boundaries, putting yourself first and being ready to divorce in case shit hits the fan, because abundance mentality and all that. Make no mistake, I have no problem with that. It's such good advice I applied it to myself. It's when they go into detail and say things like "punish her for speaking out in public and not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 01:29 PM |
| 2 | "ALL Woman Like Sex Like That"K u/figthief. I guess it was nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 05:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.Yeah, knowing that the victim is going to regenerate and be okay is not the appeal of the first set of pictures, believe me. The artists into that fetish don't care to draw the girls regenerating, it all ends there. They aren't gory for the sake of shock value though, they're for those who get off seeing a helpless victim (a cute girl especially) get beaten to death. The more she's in pain before dying, the better. That's... not how my fantasies play out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 09:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.I mean, I like my men fighting with all kinds of weapons as much as anyone else, but I still see a difference between this: (WARNING! NOT SAFE FOR LIFE! DON'T CLICK IF YOUR STOMACH CAN'T HANDLE IT!) http://static.wixstatic.com/media/6bae93_23f54e580e9c436fa02d8ba79a883b35.png_srz_2880_1620_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_png_srz http://ryona2.x.fc2.com/ryonahokan2/image/ryona2-6501-7000/ryona2-6923.jpg http://ryona2.x.fc2.com/ryonahokan2/image/ryona2-6501-7000/ryona2-6905.jpg http://ryona2.x.fc2.com/ryonah… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 08:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.I guess. I don't recall reading anything appealing porn-wise that portrayed flaying and disembowelment, so I'll take your word for it. I've seen it plenty in hentai manga aimed at men though, always with a girl getting flayed and disembowel. You know when people can't look away from a car crash? Same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 07:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.Maybe it's just me, but if there are no bad consequences to the sex and at some point the so-called "victim" is revealed to have greatly enjoyed it and to have wanted it all along, and it ends with a "and they declared their love and lived happily ever after", I just don't see it as something brutal/degrading/anything that OP claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 07:02 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.Doesn't sound like "men are fine with just a pretty face, tits, a nice butt" to me. Sounds more like being free to pump and dump with zero social backlash, or having multiple women at the same time without them getting jealous of each other. Also, huh: "In porn for women as depicted in romance novels, the fantasy is to be desired so much that the man loses all control, though he never actually hurts the woman, and in the end, marries her." Doesn't sound like rape or degradation or brutal dominan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 06:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.When I was a teenager my flavor was Alucard/Anderson hardcore gay vampire/priest smut with blood for lube. Don't vampires possess healing abilities anyway so no injury would be caused and the bottom would be fine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 06:38 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.I dunno, all the sex in the manga and doujinshi for women I've read depicted immense pleasure to me and nothing else, no "brutal raping and stockholming" or anything else like you describe. I've never read any kind of pain into it, there never were serious bad consequences to the sex. At most joke ones that clearly weren't meant to be taken seriously and had no impact on the story. It was clear the author was going for the "he/she wants it, he/she enjoys it and he/she loves it a lot but he/she j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Non-RPers - are there any issues you have seen the other side of, softened on, or become more sympathetic to, since reading subs like this?Oh come on, stop playing dumb. You know what I mean when I say doormat, in case you really don't, here's an example. I'm perplexed at a lot of what's in that article. My SO holds me in very high regard, and I'm completely fine with that. I don't want to be with someone who thinks poorly of me. However I don't do "crazy-bitch stuff just to see what would happen" or think he's "being a bitch" for respecting my boundaries. The boundaries I set with him, I have a reason for them to exist, they preve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What about "bad" movie characters is attractive? How can men emulate this in a dating context?I cannot agree with this. I do not want a man who wants to dominate and control me, which is why I am with a man who doesn't even attempt to dominate and control me. He's free to do whatever he wants, but so am I. He wants to watch a game or go out for a beer with his friends? Ok, but if I'm not interested in what he's watching or don't feel like going out myself I'm not going to go with him, he can do stuff by himself as I have my own things to do and my own preferences for entertainment. I wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What about "bad" movie characters is attractive? How can men emulate this in a dating context?We're on a subreddit full of redpillers, you can never overthink things when dealing with people who post absurdity like this: "The fact of life is this: Women aren't sexually attracted to men who treat them as equals." "A lot of men were taught growing up, "treat others as you want to be treated". A man wants to be treated like he is special from a woman, so he therefore treats her like she is special. And then sits there confused and hurt when he finds out she has been eagerly sucking Chad to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What about "bad" movie characters is attractive? How can men emulate this in a dating context?That's the catch, bad boys can make for great relationships Trick is to find your inner "bad boy" traits while not actually turning into a criminal, and then let her spend the rest of her life trying to "tame" it out of you. Of course, never let her succeed or the game is over Uh no, thank you but no. To put it with a figure of speech, I've never cared for hard mode in videogames, you can take it away and I'll enjoy the game all the same, in fact I'll enjoy it much more without it. I'm playing i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What about "bad" movie characters is attractive? How can men emulate this in a dating context?I don't, but if someone wants to be in a relationship I consider bad, unless there's something I can call the police on all I can do is advise them against it, as I said I don't get to control real people like one does fictional characters, I don't even want to. As long as one is able to make a free, conscious, informed decision, then it's up to them to do whatever they please with their personal lives, as long as it doesn't obstruct MY personal life and freedom that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 10:19 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women: What about "bad" movie characters is attractive? How can men emulate this in a dating context?Trick is to find your inner "bad boy" traits while not actually turning into a criminal, and then let her spend the rest of her life trying to "tame" it out of you I pity the fool who falls for this. My friends and I just want a comfortable life relationship with our partners, so we all are in relationships with men who don't pull shit like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 09:19 PM |
| 5 | Q4Women: What about "bad" movie characters is attractive? How can men emulate this in a dating context?Nothing. The appealing part of fantasies is that they are fantasies, that is they are under my complete control in my head. The fictional bad boy will never hurt me because I control all his thoughts and actions. Not so with the real bad boy obviously, so the real bad boy I just avoid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 05:51 PM |
| 4 | When Red meets BlueRP love says "I love you, but I don't need you." And that's a much healthier perspective because you're maintaining your sense of independence. Love needs a strong dash of fearlessness to exist. When you no longer fear, things like speaking your mind, believing in yourself, leading your relationships, and following your desires, all become much easier to exude or obtain And why do you imply that applies only to men when it applies to women too? I used my hatred of women Like clockwork. Hating wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Non-RPers - are there any issues you have seen the other side of, softened on, or become more sympathetic to, since reading subs like this?"doing nice things for a woman" is an oversimplification of the issue. Putting women on a pedestal and becoming a doormat is unattractive to most women. This is what most "terpers" advise against And again what the fuck is "putting women on a pedestal and becoming a doormat"? Is it respecting what legit thing a woman wants and not being abusive to her? Because that is not unattractive to most women, in fact it weighs in extremely for a lot of women when they are deciding whether they want to pur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 10:07 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.If these are observable patterns of behavior, it has some basis in reality I don't think you're seeing the same things I see and I don't think you people's conclusions are right, here. You're being absurd. RP doesn't advocate raping children. You're reading too much into it. No, better safe than sorry when it comes to this shit. Some terp posts creepy shit on the internet, it's his right to post it, it's also my right to think of my own safety and the safety of other people and stay away from/ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 01:41 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Again, yes people are individuals but when studying the collective group is where the pattern can be observed 1) That is irrelevant to the individual. What other people do does not concern me, as long as it isn't harmful to me or others, especially those I care about. I care about myself, my partner, my family, my friends, and my fellow women. Again, would I want my daughter to marry or have any any sort of relationship with a terper who will disrespect and abuse her? No. Definitely no, therefor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Non-RPers - are there any issues you have seen the other side of, softened on, or become more sympathetic to, since reading subs like this?Why the fuck do terpers believe that doing nice things for a woman makes you seem desperate? My man was a virgin before me (OMG worthless beta!!!/s) but that wasn't a problem for me, because he truly loves me and he's a genuinely good and awesome person. He has always treated me with the utmost respect (beta behaviour! Beta behaviour!/s) and has always done everything for me (Beta beta beta!/s), doesn't complain when I take the wheel in the relationship because he knows he can trust me and I enj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 07:43 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.You refuse to even acknowledge the SMP? Yes. I do not care what imaginary numbers a bunch of strangers assigns to people they have nothing to do with, as every individual has different parameters according to what is important to them and what isn't, so all the 123456789 that gets thrown around is meaningless. It's all purely subjective. My fiancé openly states I am the best in the world and the only one he wants, and as he is sincere about this, I think the same about him, and that's what's imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 10:35 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.I just told you what it is You listed a bunch of buzzwords for which I see in no basis in reality. AFBB? Men your cult calls "pathetic betas" are getting love, including sexual love, and are in happy relationships, while the terpers aren't. Hypergamy? The not-so-pathetic-betas' partners are their peers, their partners are not inferior to them. 80/20? They all have or have had partners and they definitely are more than a 20%. Cock-carousel? Women have far less partners than men, just because they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 09:25 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.AFBB Bullshit. hypergamy Bullshit. 80/20 Bullshit. the cock-carousel Bullshit. branch-swinging And more bullshit. Again what is this "female sexual strategy" you keep harping about? With something real this time, not a bunch of misogynists' lies. Ah, but many of then don't have an abundance of women wanting them And they keep not having it looks like, or they wouldn't need to repeat to themselves so hard that yes, they really do have abundance, they really do! You just gotta think harder! Don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 02:25 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Ah damn, this and the other comments got deleted by accident. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 01:46 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.[deleted] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<sup>0.6993</sup> What is this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 01:04 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.[deleted] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<sup>0.1466</sup> What is this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 12:32 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.How is forming sexual strategy based on what women find attractive You're not forming a "sexual strategy" based on what women find attractive, you're forming an harassment strategy based on what a bunch of bullshitters told you they think women find attractive, when they're wrong. Completely absolutely 100% wrong. And you have their own constant bitterness and bitching about everything, especially their exploits not working, to prove it. You have women here telling you what they find attractive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 12:08 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.I'm not citing any particular study So you really were talking out of your ass, because the 70% number comes from the study I quoted, which highlights how traditional marriage is objectively worse for women, thus leading to your answer as to why more women initiate divorce. It's only logical that people want to get out of a bad situation and women are people. what you just quoted only reinforces my idea that marriage is inherently a bad deal Traditional marriage is a bad deal for women, not for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 11:36 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Have you even read the study you're citing? "[...]the study’s lead author, Michael Rosenfeld, suggests — that women may be more likely to initiate divorces because the married women reported lower levels of relationship quality than married men. In contrast, women and men in non-marital relationships reported equal levels of relationship quality. Rosenfeld said his results support the feminist assertion that some women experience heterosexual marriage as oppressive or uncomfortable. He adds, “I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 11:06 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.You're not merely disagreeing with me, you're spewing a lot of lies that are going to harm anyone gullible enough to believe them. And in your posts you're expressing the wish to exploit women and hurt them/render them something horrible because of of a bunch of absurd delusions you yourself created in your head with no basis in reality at all. That's deserving of every insult and contempt. you're assign me a "category" You assign it to yourself with all your incessant whining over not being all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 11:02 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Women initiate most divorces and it's somehow the man's fault Nothing wrong with initiating divorce per se. It means someone who was in a bad/unhappy marriage has freed themselves from a bad marriage and a bad partner for them. It may well be the man's fault in plenty cases. Nothing wrong with less people marrying either since cohabitation can be just as good and it's getting regulated too, so even those who cohabitate are still legally protected. Again, are you mad you can't just exploit people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 10:03 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.No hypocrisy. You posted a lot of bullshit about HURRR DURR ALPHA FUCKS BETA NO GET LAID and all other typical absolutely false crap, and when presented with reality, you spouted some more false idiocy about minorities in an attempt to dismiss my evidence, because you can't accept reality not fitting whatever bullshit you've constructed in your mind, or it all comes crashing down. But reality, idiot, is that men who are sweet, open and loving get sweet, open and loving partners plenty. Shall I p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 09:57 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Women work and own property and wealth, plus there's this thing called laws that lets one settle an agreement with their spouse for everything finance and property-related, so you're talking out of your ass. If you just want to exploit a woman's time, work and resources in exchange of nothing don't worry, nobody will want to marry you or have anything to do with you whatsoever. It's still known though that the majority of divorces are initiated by women Those men who get divorced so much should … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 09:40 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Divorce =/= "divorce rape". "Divorce rape" is a strawman because it bullshits that some divorces end up financially bad for the husband, therefore all or most divorces end up with a woman taking 90% of a man's wealth and him living destitute for the rest of his life. That is bullshit. Each divorce case is handled differently according to the situation of the individuals involved, and if you wanted a sahm with no useful job skills for a wife, you deserve being made to pay for her until she can ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 08:53 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.I don't think I am in any minority. But what category am I doesn't matter. You are in the category of men who are disgusting women haters and deserve being alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 08:14 AM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.My fiancé is a romantic lovey-dovey guy and he's the one I chose to give my virginity to, have sex and spend my life with, as he sincerely loves me and respects me and everything I care for. Fuck off with your delusional bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/17 11:28 PM |
| 1 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Not fpor the person getting divorced raped "Divorce rape" is a strawman terpers and merpers throw around as they wish they could just force their victims to stay captive to them, when in fact they're the first to claim to initiate divorce as soon as a marriage doesn't work for them anymore. "Divorce rape" is hypocrite bullshit. Look up the law in your state and you'll find it doesn't work like that, but of course you don't know what you're talking about and are just repeating bullshit you read o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/17 08:54 PM |
| 2 | TRP, the manosphere, and guys striving to become Chads and Alpha Fucks is the natural result of women's lib and undermining traditional male roles.Divorce is a good thing, it frees spouses from horrible partners who are bad for them. It is not a social ill at all. Single motherhood keeps getting lower and lower thanks to sex education, contraception and abortion. All very useful and good things themselves too. Frustrated males like TRPs, MGTOWs, and all the other crap that wants to oppress women can fuck off, they have no right to make a woman miserable just because they're disgusting inferior pieces of shit who think they're entitled to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/17 05:43 PM |
| 3 | There's no downsides to being picky for the majority of womenWho's complaining though? I don't get where you people get all this complaining from, because I see none of it. In fact I experience the opposite, confirmation that a woman can be and is happier alone than in company she doesn't want. Are you sure it's not your confirmation bias that makes you generalize or that you aren't twisting the meaning of things as redpillers are observed to do? In fact, isn't it the same for all the whining dudes in this thread? Well, hey, whatever. It's time I got off … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/16 12:27 PM |
| 1 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleHaving 2-3 kids is not shitting out children carelessly. That's for the individual woman to decide. Anything more than 0 kids is shitting out kids carelessly when you're not financially, emotionally, and psychologically ready to have them. And whether a woman is financially, emotionally and psychologically ready to have a kid or not, only the individual woman can know, and decide. Not all women want the same thing. 1 kid is a huge burden already to a lot of women, and not all women want to have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/16 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Please understand the difference between poverty and destitution. Poverty is relative, destitution is not. What you're talking about is destitution, not poverty. I would have agreed with you, however comparing a woman who doesn't have disposable income but has her basic needs met is not poverty. It is poverty compared to a woman who can fulfill all her survival needs herself and have disposable income to fufill the rest of her needs too. Existence is more than mere survival, having your survival… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/16 10:53 AM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Again, a kid A woman is not a kid. An adult woman wants to and can provide for herself, she wants and needs her own money. Case in point: myself. not having your own money is not a sufficient condition to determine poverty Yes it is, as lack of money and resources to be fully autonomous puts you in a vulnerable position toward abuse by those you depend on to live. A kid will grow up, leave the family and live on their own terms, you are not a 6-year-old all your life. The condition of being a ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/16 07:18 AM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Severe economic hardship such as being without your own money and being subjugated to someone else to live? Thanks for reinforcing my argument. A woman without her own money IS experiencing severe economic hardship. Even if she is married her husband's money is not her own, she does not have total control and ownership over it. She has no control at all, she cannot use it at her own will. The husband does, not her. So she is in poverty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/16 06:43 AM |
| 1 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?So why should I care that men are miserable when those same men want to make me miserable, by depriving me of my freedom, my autonomy, my independence, my self-realization, my opportunity to all those, my well-being, and pretty much all my basic human rights? Why should women care for men who do not care for them and their needs? Its not as detrimental to how a man views a woman It's detrimental to how a woman views herself, her satisfaction and her self-fulfillment. Also, you are wrong on what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Control over one's circumstances and one's own life and destiny, not control over others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 06:50 PM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?As already told you by many, poverty is relative. Survival isn't enough to cover all of a person's needs. Being unhappy is not the same as living in poverty No. Poverty may also be understood as an aspect of unequal social status and inequitable social relationships, experienced as social exclusion, dependency, and diminished capacity to participate, or to develop meaningful connections with other people in society. Which is the condition of wives who live depending on their husband's income and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 12:05 PM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Poverty is relative, absolute poverty or destitution is not. We're talking about poverty, not destitution. So yes, the label is correct, as women had a systematic scarcity of money, resources and opportunities compared to men, which is the definition of "poverty" and which feminism was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT to do away with. You have no right to deny a woman her autonomy. It's bullshit to say that something is yours when it isn't. Your parents' money is not yours, it's theirs. That they decide to use … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 11:42 AM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?You're right; both small children and adults want to have their needs fulfilled. However the needs of an adult are very different from those of a small child, and an adult woman wants to and can fulfill her own needs herself, unless you arbitrarily decide to prevent her from doing so because it upsets you to see a woman accomplished. That is not right. For the record a kid can be not okay with being without personal disposable income too, especially once they enter adolescence and see their need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 10:37 AM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?An analogy that compares two radically, completely different things that have nothing to do with each other in this context (in fact what they have in common goes against your ideas) is a not an acceptable analogy for a reasonable discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 09:50 AM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?She is free. Can't have her own job and money/income Can't do nor have what she wants because things require money and she is precluded her own money, and she can't use her husband's money without his permission, which isn't granted - in fact the posts above show it's often denied (as it's his right to, I'm for people having their own money not for people seeing their own money get used against their will by others) She is free You are contradicting yourself. We're talking about women who were n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 09:35 AM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Again: do you think freedom and autonomy are not basic needs? The millionaire can decide a yacht is a need for him because he's buying it WITH HIS OWN MONEY. It's his money, he can do what he wants with it. Access to one's own money and resources, in an amount that satisfies enough of one's own needs and wants, that's the basic need here. It's also called autonomy, and in the case of the millionaire it is being plenty satisfied. No one is denying him his money. In the case of the housewife? How … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 08:19 AM |
| 0 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?was taken out to movies, or on vacations, or watched the household TV, or enjoyed luxury food items, etc. The point is that it's not HER DECISION. She's taken out to movies her husband decided to see. They're not movies that interests her. How is she enjoying them? She's taken on vacations her husband decided to have. They're not the vacations she wanted to have. How is she enjoying them? She is allowed to watch the tv channels her husband approves of. They're not the channels she wants to watch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?So? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Would they rather have been the housewife of a man who denied them what they wanted or would they rather have had a good job that earned them enough to fulfill their own wants and needs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?shared disposable income is available can't do what you want because the owner of the money is opposed to it income available How is an income available if you can't do what you want with it? Also: why are you deciding for others whether one's needs are met or not? Only the person herself can decide that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?because the married woman likely can partake It's still not her own money. And the things the husband decides to spend his income on may not be the things the wife wants, likes or cares for, so both she and the penniless guy are in the same position - neither have the money to do as they want. Not having my own money to do as I want is an unacceptable condition for me. For the record, I'm a woman too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 01:05 PM |
| 4 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?This is why I will always be working to have my own money and this is why my mother always urged me to get a good job and be financially independent, always. I have my own money, I can do as I want. I make the decisions concerning me. Redpillers/men in general who attempt to sell not having your own money (therefore not having it guaranteed you are able to get and do what you want as you're subjected to another's will which may not coincide with your own) as a good thing baffle me. They remind m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 12:38 PM |
| 5 | Guys are too easily rattled by a girl's standard rejection template: "I have a boyfriend"How ironic considering it's redpillers who say the only reason a guy talks to a woman is to get sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 02:42 PM |
| 5 | CMV: the best way to address women's problems is to change her mood, not her mindAs long as you don't complain when she sees you do nothing to solve your issues, decides you're not worth her time and trust, and leaves you for someone better. Or she starts nagging because your problems keep piling up rather than get solved. And in both cases, you refuse her help, refuse her solving your problems for you, which gets you back to the first point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/16 07:02 PM |
| 1 | What would it take for you to convict a person of rape?What I wrote is "Your time is less important than me NOT GETTING RAPED." Only a rapist would think that's not reasonable. you can do whatever the fuck you want to fuck over other people whenever you feel like it and they have to roll over and take it This is all in your head. You started spewing a lot of bullshit about women having an OBLIGATION to finish sex, which is bullshit and complete nonsense, as a woman is free to refuse any sex she doesn't want or she no longer wants no matter what, as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 08:28 AM |
| 0 | What would it take for you to convict a person of rape?the question of rape would not ever arise Reality doesn't work like that. You do not get to control what people do, what they want and how they feel. As I said, if someone decides they are disappointed with you and do not like you anymore, or they no longer want it for whatever arbitrary reason, it's perfectly within their right to opt out and if the other person is a basic decent person, they will respect that and not whine they don't get to rape them. All you do is continue whining people don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 10:53 PM |
| 1 | What would it take for you to convict a person of rape?Dude, you assume a lot of shit that only exists in your head, don't bother to check if what you presume to be okay/true is okay/true for other people too, and the fact you were originally talking about sex tells me you would act the same with a partner. There's nothing reasonable in your expectations to detain people against their will and let themselves get raped by you without complain. You are not well-meaning at all. I want nothing to do with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 11:15 AM |
| 0 | What would it take for you to convict a person of rape?Well I didn't call you a piece of shit for getting up and leaving the dinner table, even though it's extremely rude It's not extremely rude in my home and I prefer to keep my way. You know what's extremely rude? The attitude you're showing here. Where I come from Yeah I'm aware there's horrible people like that. Can't stand them. The type who thinks like that isn't really generous, they don't care what their guests want, they just want to make a big show for themselves. That's why they get upset… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 07:13 AM |
| 0 | What would it take for you to convict a person of rape?What consequences does someone refusing sex they don't like and don't want have for someone else? That someone doesn't get raped? And this somehow upsets you? Decent people do not want to force harm, pain and suffering on their partners. They are not so disgustingly selfish they want to make their partner suffer something horrible like rape because they can only think of themselves like you do. Your airplane example is retarded by the way. People in a room are not on a moving plane and they can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 06:36 AM |
| 1 | What would it take for you to convict a person of rape?I don't care whatever you think is selfish, shitty behavior, no one has any obligation to continue any free activity - sexual activities included - they don't like or they are no longer interested in, just because rapists would like to force them to. When someone means no or no more, they mean no and no more. Your obligation is to respect that. You're not paying them, they have no obligation towards you. They can also refuse your pay. Do you need to be told "you are completely disgusting and rep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 06:52 AM |
| 3 | What would it take for you to convict a person of rape?There is no duty of care to finish sex unless one is getting paid for it, and even then it's exclusively only what one has agreed upon. If I didn't agree to give a blowjob, I have no duty of care to give a blowjob. If I didn't agree to have unpleasant (for me) sex, I have no duty of care to have unpleasant (for me) sex. If that bothers a man, tough shit, a man who wants to force me to do something I am against is a man who doesn't love me, and I don't care for nor do I want anything to do with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?I think my mom is extroadinary. She did things no ordinary person could do imo. I look up to her a lot and me starting my own business was because I wanted to emulate things that she did. Well then, good for you. Thanks for clarifying that point. I wouldn't say being a housewife is what's best for all women or men. Even if my dad stayed I could never imagine my mom being a stay at home mom. She is too ambitious imo. So I wouldn't get offended if a woman wanted to go work instead of being a house… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?Yeah like I said there is no right answer. Which is why I dislike men who say being a housewife is the best, because in their mind they've pictured an idea that doesn't correspond to others' reality, and get offended when a woman says being a housewife is not what's best for her. FYI, housewives typically do not run their own businesses, they depend on someone else's money to live. Note how you say even your own mother worked for her own business, regardless how little you think she did. That wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?You're welcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?Yep, that's how it's always been for me personally. Other people may be different, but other people aren't me. Edit since you added this after my reply: MGTOW is of course toxic filth If they really just went their own way without making a huge shitshow about it, people wouldn't have a problem with them. and their bitching about women is horrendous https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/5h7u3b/women_choose_cell_phone_over_men/ "Woman doesn't pay attention to me 24/7, the horror. I don't want my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?Duh, it was rhetoric. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?I talked about porn with a male friend once, mostly the differences in what he liked vs what I like. Nowadays I have this kind of conversation with my boyfriend. Don't see anything weird or wrong about it in either circumstance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?Food and shelter are not pay. Money is pay. Money one can use to better themselves and build their own life, food and shelter that you don't own and depend on someone else to give you can't be used the same way. People work for money so they can buy food and shelter of their preference, not for food and shelter they didn't choose and have no way of changing/choosing. Food and shelter aren't a medium of exchange like money is. No one is talking about forcing their wife to live in a hovel off of b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?Notice how this applies perfectly if you replace feminism with mgtow. It doesn't apply perfectly if you replace feminism with mgtow though. Mgtows say they want to live without women but then bitch and complain all the time women don't give them attention and wish to be able to force women to be subservient, they wish to deprive someone of choice. Feminism instead ensures women do have choice. The general sentiment that men deserve the misandry The kind of man who posts a lot of shit on certain … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?She's talking about the kind of man who posts onto redpill/mgtow/incel subs. However only a retard would think that kind of man never existed before those subs, rather those subs exist because men with those ideas already existed and wanted a modern platform to circlejerk. The detail about rapists getting their victims drunk on purpose so they can't say no? That's something that's recommended by redpillers, puas and other like-minded men all right. The statement that men are more willing to comm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?Classic dodge post of someone who has no argument and doesn't want to admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?She died years before those subs existed The kind of man who posts on those subs has been existing for much longer than the subs themselves have. Before the subs there were other platforms for hateful men to congregate and circlejerk, always have been. The medium changes but the worthless piece of crap stays the same. Would you also assume without evidence that somebody who makes misogynistic statements is talking about the kind of woman you find on bluepill/srs/feminism subs? Without evidence? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?Your grammar tells me you dropped out of high school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?That's not what I said at all Hurr women can't be forced to pretend they like someone they don't and they don't have to suffer sex they don't want because they aren't forced to stick with someone they don't want to be with, men no longer have a choice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP resent how men are expected to be providers? Does feminism not remedy this?A guy on the internet that hates the idea of women not being forced to house slavery to live. And you wonder why people don't like you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 01:28 AM |
| 1 | If not TRP/PUA then whatYes, if you show no interest people will think you're not interested, however that's not the same as "the girl will think you have no balls". That's not true. Just like it's not true that no early sex = the girl isn't interested. I get the impression you that you think concepts like "early", "late", "waiting too long", "making an (acceptable) move" etc. mean exactly the same thing to everyone when they don't, because as you've said you need to systemize things in order to understand them, so you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 11:36 PM |
| 1 | If not TRP/PUA then whatSounds like your boy didn't have to do much first, but this kind of shit doesn't happen to me where girls fall into my lap and start with the initiation process ? No. Details snipped. I said nothing about what he did. You make me presume you expect sex and relationships to happen quickly, but that's not how it works if it's not a casual fling you're looking for. And I can be the one the watch out for different social cues or non-verbal invitations, but even then I might misinterpret or not recog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 10:50 PM |
| 1 | If not TRP/PUA then whatIf it's just innocent non-sexual contact, that'd be one thing, but if you keep escalating with the goal of sex in mind without ever bothering to check if she's ok with that or not, you will end up arrested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 10:12 PM |
| 1 | If not TRP/PUA then whatI do start conversations and practice holding conversations. I'm wondering if you think I'm a retard or something that I'm unable to figure out that I should talk to people. I didn't say 'talk to people', I said talk to HER. Who are you talking to, exactly? I'm not presuming anything that girl is a okay with touching or bothering. If anything I do not do it enough. According to PUA standards and advice anyway. Classic PUA advice is kino escalation which implies I should always be rather more tou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 09:52 PM |
| 0 | If not TRP/PUA then whatWhat do you mean by talking directly? Start a conversation with another person. What is indirect talking? "Hey guys, Stacy today said __. What do you think she meant by that?" What do you mean by unjustified advances? You presuming (without reason) she's okay with you touching or bothering her. Which advances are justified? When she's told or shown you in some way she's ok with you touching or bothering her. You'll need to ask the individual in question for the specifics of what is/isn't accepta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 08:21 PM |
| 1 | If not TRP/PUA then whatYou've always made a bunch of calculations in your mind without ever bothering to talk directly to the girl you like, without trying to make any unjustified advances on her, have you. You never bothered to take input directly from her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 08:04 PM |
| 1 | If not TRP/PUA then whatThe problem I've noticed with people like you is that you always tend to overlook/omit/forget factors in your calculations that aren't important to you but are important to others, and you can't even begin to understand why they would be important to others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)No, they won't. But you're describing the hate group, and I'm saying they don't describe every man who struggles to find intimacy One should hope so. And they're the ones I don't hold out much hope for. But I'm also aware of Those aren't mutually exclusive. I was bullied as a kid by my classmates. It took time, but I got over it. Never once during the years I thought that I needed a partner to validate myself and my existence, nor was I looking for one, nor was I desperate for one. I was already… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)It needn't be that. Freud was wrong to pin everything on the parents; humans are very adaptable, to their environments. Even those who lack social intelligence. It's still a highly ĺikely possibility, and it needs to be considered. But for the most part, gradual exposure, in good company, is the cure for a traumatic memory. You're simply forcing the context of that memory to be rewritten. They aren't going to find good company willing to take them if they keep being bitter, obsessed, and/or hate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)I won't argue, but I've met a few who were legitimately trying, and failing because they were either autism spectrum or were struggling with the teachings of a toxic culture. Or both. For me it boils down to people who didn't belong with each other staying together and having a child when the woman didn't really want it and the man didn't really care for the woman. Anyone can be interested in whatever they want, but unless they resolve their mommy/daddy issues first, nobody's going to go far. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)But you aren't even reading my replies are you I am. They're a bunch of butthurt shitposting. I have. Nope. How about you actually read my replies The problem is I am reading them and it's still just a bunch of butthurt shitposting. Yes, I do. The methodology of randomly guessing the underlying reason for something, assuming the guess to be correct and running with it, is not something that makes for quality research True, that's why all the "research" redpillers and incels spew out and tout to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)I have, in fact, presented a number of arguments to you You've been saying a bunch of stuff without proof. Still waiting for the proof here. No, they can't. You're just willfully ignoring anything that doesn't fit into your own hateful narrative Well can you show me or tell ne about something in your experience that doesn't fit my hateful narrative? Like an incel admitting he's the problem and not wishing to hurt women who have done nothing wrong because he blames other people for his problems? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)I already did those steps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)Incels are into some weird romance movie because I say so and I will ceaselessly tout, without actually bothering to link Step 1: click on r/foreveralone Step 2: Scroll down to "Scientific studies" on the sidebar Step 3: click on the link It's not hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)You went into this thread with an extremely bad attitude Anything that questions incels' victim mentality counts as "extremely bad attitude" it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)Being this bitter at fellow fans (actually at people in general) enjoying themselves is why those like you have such a bad reputation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)the fact that it started out as a nerd (ie undesirable, low social status, male) The first unofficial Star Trek convention was organized by two women, Devra Langsam and Sherna Comerford, in March 1, 1969 at the New Jersey Public Library in Newark. The first official convention was in 1972. From the 1973 program book the founders were: Joan Winston & Elyse Pines/Elyse Rosensteiyn (Other members included Allan Asherman, Eileen Becker, Steve Rosenstein, Dana Anderson, Thom Anderson, Renee Bodner, S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)Too normie for their tastes. In all seriousness, a lot of people and a lot of different people, men and women, love Star Wars, Star Trek and lots of other stuff. They're great. They aren't the prerogative of creeps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)r/foreveralone, it's in the sidebar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)Not in reality. But to you, it is, because you don't care about how incels actually are - you care about rationalizing your own inherently irrational hateful beliefs How are incels in reality then? Yeah. Every time you say something wrong, I will tell you that you're wrong. That's how it works. You win debates by presenting arguments, not by repeating your point of view Then why do you keep repeating your point of view while never presenting an actual argument? No, I can't. There isn't any one s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)it's the author's definition that matters. "Who Is "Love-Shy"? At the outset it is important for the reader to have a clear under- standing of the nature of love-shyness and of the key characteristics shared by all the people studied for this research. In essence, a love-shy person is one who possesses each and every one of the following seven characteristics: (1) He is a virgin; in other words, he has never had sexual intercourse. (2) He is a person who very rarely goes out socially with women.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/16 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)That's for love-shyness though Incels here use love-shy as an interchangeable term for incels. Plus it wouldn't be in the sidebar if your fellow incels wouldn't hold it true and relevant in some way. I suggest you talk with them over what is an incel and what isn't. You could, of course, try to project that data on all sexually undesirable men as a whole, but you'll run into the problem of such assumptions running contrary to what actually goes on in incel communities and what interests incels .… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/16 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)Wait, what? What study? 'Love and shyness' r/foreveralone links to it from the sidebar. What's the sample? The group of incel men interviewed for the study. Who are David and Lisa? Two mentally ill teenagers as declared so by the movie. He a something-phobic and she a schizophrenic. You're going to have to explain to me why that kind of preference would be evil or harmful "Love" entails wanting the well-being of the other person, so if your intention is keep her in a vulnerable position where sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/16 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)The study reports the favorite incel movies vs the favorite non-incel movies, according to the sample taken by the author. Incel movies apparently are the kind of bland, forgettable romances wherein shy guy meets cute but totally unable to take care of herself girl, and she falls in love with him. The author actually notes how one of the top movies according to incels, David and Lisa, portrayed a romance between two mentally ill teenagers and many incels remarked that's what they want, a girl wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/16 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)You haven't progressed since your first crush? Even I figured out there's a good reason most people use safe words, and that the sex is better when I have the freedom to say "No", as well as say "Yes." Those are obvious things I was aware of even before I entangled myself with another person. I'm asking where is incels' progress? Most either keep repeating the same mistakes or pretend to "go their own way" (while still obsessing over whatever women do) / "swallow the pill" and become even more r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/16 10:38 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)Many suffer from a delayed maturity That's a problem. Also I don't think "think like kids do, when dealing with their first crush" is quite correct. Little children up to the age of 8 may think like this, but older children (who are still kids) already exhibit greater maturity and better ability to relate to others than this. And incels repeat this behaviour with every woman that is so unfortunate to meet their interest. Where would most of us be right now, if we'd never progressed beyond that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/16 06:11 AM |
| 5 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (19 November 2016)The 'love and shyness' study reports incels pre-emptively expect the woman they are infatuated with to fulfill all of their expectations, even though they do not know her at all. Their "love" is based exclusively on a specific look, personality doesn't even enter the equation in their minds. That means: they do not care to get to know the woman as a person; they project their unfair, one-sided expectations on her even though she is practically a stranger to them. Then they blame the woman for fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/16 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenThen why do you keep replying? Genuine question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenDidn'y you say you weren't going to reply anymore? revenge fantasies ( For people that harmed them Like all the women who "bullied" them simply by rejecting them? That's publicly expressed incel logic here. rather than plenty of guys who simply beat up the people who harmed them Incels prefer to take up firearms and shoot randomly at the crowd it seems. therefore not needing any fantasies What you don't get and what the study says, retard, is that incels keep seething in their hatred wishing the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenThat incels "stalk women to the point of harassment" is not an observed phenomena Your model community r/foreveralone self-reports stalking women its members got an obession with. If you want me to check r/incel and all other sources too, just ask. Also "Love and shyness" the study on incels r/foreveralone links to states that staring, following and other inappropriate behavior is common in incels. And when the woman who gets their unwanted attention reacts rationally by denouncing it, they see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenLook, you might say as well say incels abuse little children and female incels all volunteer in charity. That's not an observed phenomen like that which I described. You're unbelievably sexist. Same to you. It's no coincidence that you went straight to /r9k/ Want me to check /pol/ too? That's where you find incels whining women have too many rights and need to be deprived of freedom for the good of society and single men. which is the only place you could find these threads with any frequency /p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenAlright you idiot, so you spent your entire posts trying to strawman incels, those who identify as incels, claiming if someone is an incel then he's oh so bad ( But women ever are ) Generally speaking women don't commit mass murder, don't wish for stripping men of their rights, and don't bother men as much men do with women. The typical incel stalks a girl and bothers her to the point of harassment. The typical cat lady loves cats and keeps to her own. and now you're backpedaling to "a subset of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenIt took you this long to admit your definition of incel is "Someone who is an incel and does everything bad I attribute I attribute nothing. I did not seize someone else's computer and posted all the bullshit/bigotry/hatred they posted. they are just as shitty as the shitty segments of other groups of people? Took you long enough. I wonder why you give special sympathy to them, talking about wives not being sympathetic to umdesirable males while not considering the wife might have a reason for n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenYou gave absolutely no sources about what the majority of all incels think or do If we go by your definition that an incel is just a guy who doesn't get laid, without digging into the reason why, it is impossible to do that, as the variables are too many. Some will be dicks some will be good people, some won't call themselves incels so we'll never know, and each will have his own opinion. It is impossible to draw a conclusion. But if we go by my definition that an incel is a guy who cannot get l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenI fail to see any sort of statistic, study, any sort of basis at all If you refuse to analyze the sources I gave you, that's your loss. Can't have a discussion with someone who refuses to look at the data presented. "The majority of the millions of people visiting 4chan are incels" It is a popular site with the young socially awkward male crowd and they have at least two highly active boards dedicated to socially inept males, who have trouble relating to women. You draw your conclusions from tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in women[part 2] I only gave you examples of women dating bad people And what you don't get is you fall into the category of bad people too. You are too insane for anyone to have a healthy relationship with. You spent a whole rant defending actual Nazi's I pointed out that Nazis believed they were the good guys who were fighting evil just the same as you. I do not agree with their ideas, that goes without saying, but you seem to have this notion that other people always know or believe what they do is e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenWasn't even a rapist Never said he was. He was a typical incel and a mass murderer. That's your reasoning for thinking it's likely 90% of rapists are incels? Never said that either. Are you capable of understanding a discourse? I said incels, socially inept virgin males who think they're entitled to sex and love for no reason at all, have expressed the wish to rape/murder/abuse without consequence and one has every right to be wary of such people. Whatever your insanity stems from, it's simply f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenNo, you said it's likely It's likely people who praise Elliot Rodger would have no problem acting out their revenge fantasies if they knew they could get away with it? Yes it is. Only the first example you gave is an actual example of an incel community No, all of them are. All are communities frequented by socially inept virgin males, who have no desire to become decent people, and who tend to blame others for their own faults. You've got exactly zero evidence 4chan itself is one giant stinking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenit's "likely" 90% of rapists are incels That's your interpretation here. Give me the statistical or psychological data on which you base all your accusations about incels I can give you sources: /r/incel /r/mgtow /r/theredpill 4chan, Wizchan and all the other chans out there where incels gather to whine about women not giving them the attention they wrongly think they deserve. 4chan especially is frequented by millions, the declaredly incel boards are among the most active. going by actual defin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenIf your loved one is going through hard times yes, you should help them to the best you can, but it is absurd to expect another should give up entirely their life and well-being for you. From your words you sound like that's exactly what you expect from your partner. That's not love. For the record ,the 'you' I meant in the first sentence is the generic, impersonal one. Only the one in the second sentence is personal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Single Japanese Women Are Buying the Boyfriend ExperienceHear hear. My mama taught me to be financially independent and take care of myself, doing what I want, so that no matter whether I found a good man or not, I would have never had to worry about my future. That is good and wise. It also turns out independence attracts the best kind of man, the kind who loves you for you and wants you for your lifelong companionship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 08:40 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Are asexual men creepy?This. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in women[part 2] Not really. Yes really. many men all over the world who are "incel" by definition I hope there's not that many psychos out there, because my definition of incel is different from yours. I know a guy who would be an incel by your definition, he doesn't have a girlfriend and doesn't get laid as far as I know. He's still one of the sweetest people you'll ever have the pleasure to meet and everyone, man or woman, treats him friendly, like he belongs in the pack. He doesn't call himself an i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenIf blind morality means relying more on intuition yes. You misunderstood that completely. Blind morality is morality that relies exclusively on principles and does not take into account the situation at hand. And the other morality is not necessarily "taking the whole situation into account" It must do that though if it wants to pass a fair judgement. They don't have to be blind though. Even though as I told someone, that's one of the ways in which male morality might go awry It already has done… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenMaybe you read too much into a few dozens of people in an extremely minor sub, but "incel" is generally a denominator for anyone who wants love/sex and gets rejected. Well, in my experience people who aren't bitter and entitled about not getting what they want (as they have done absolutely nothing to deserve it, in fact they have done plenty not to deserve it) do not call themselves incels. Incels are a specific subgroup of bitter, shitty, odious men who think they are entitled to something they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenFor the morality, I am talking about this study A study that points out both sides of reasoning that are valid to me, "principles" that you pin to males and "context" that you pin to females, abstract principles that do not care for contextual reality lead to oppressive regimes. I hold both equally important. No, it states inter-hemispheric connectivity was greater in women's and girls' brains, whereas intra-hemispheric connectivity was greater in the brains of men and boys. "Fully analyzing a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 10:51 AM |
| 3 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenYes necessarily. An analytical decision won't be wrong because it was based on feelz even when it is. It would be wrong due to insufficient data. Insufficient data such as deliberately choosing to ignore what your intuition is telling you? Ignoring data is never a good thing for an informed decision. A false gut feeling which dates back to primitive times and has a much reduced impact in a moral setting You're not making any sense. What moral setting are you talking about here? Help me visualize… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 08:28 AM |
| 2 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenI am no scientist, so I am going to debate only what I can logically infer from the article which you linked. "Roughly speaking, the back of the brain handles perception and the front of the brain handles action; the left hemisphere of the brain is the seat of logical thinking, while the right side of the brain begets intuitive thinking. The findings lend support to the view that males may excel at motor skills, while women may be better at integrating analysis and intuitive thinking." You link … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenA woman, except in her role as a mother, is too self involved and selfish to be capable of that. How is a woman too self-involved and selfish, exactly? From my experience on dealing with people who say stuff like you're saying, your reply is going to show you have absurd, insane, hypocrite ideas about women, exalting selfishness and putting oneself first on one hand when it involves men but decrying the exact same thing when it involves women only because it interferes with your interests. That … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 06:32 AM |
| 2 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenSure. It's not perfect, but it is a measure that's defined by a society and then used to make decisions. It's far better than mainly going on feelings and not trying to use established rules and guidelines. You don't get it. It boils down to exactly the same thing because society is compromised of individuals who ultimately use feelings to determine what is good/bad for them, and then create rules and guidelines to achieve what feelings have decided regarding whether X thing is desirable or unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 05:48 AM |
| 2 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenUtilitarianism for example. Someone's own feelings are irrelevant for choosing how to act in a given situation. Judgement is made based on measures guided by rules, laws. Which can be wrong. Utilitarianism is an ethical theory that states that the best action is the one that maximixes utility. But then "utility" is subjectively defined, so rules and laws would be subjectively defined by whatever group in power, with potential, highly probable disregard to whether that corresponds to the definiti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/16 11:41 PM |
| 4 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenBut making the decision about constitutes a moral good ( analytical ) is more realz-based than reacting based on immediate feelings. Not necessarily. You know what is commonly called "that feeling in your gut"? That is actually your second brain picking up on non-verbal signals that your primary brain cannot pick up on, and those signals can be of friendliness but they can also be of danger. There's a whole nervous system in the guts dedicated to assessing whether a situation poses risk to one's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/16 11:18 PM |
| 4 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenDo correct me if I have misunderstood you, but you appear to be describing blind morality vs morality that takes the whole situation into account. I am against blind rigid principles as blind rigid principles do not assess the situation properly and do not take all details into account, (that's why they're blind; because they apply the law blindly) therefore causing more damage than good. For example: A group follows its rigid moral code that states "THOU. SHALT. NOT. kill." Said group is theref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/16 05:59 PM |
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