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I think it's just a historical matter, to be honest. Sexuality in general has been demonized, especially in Western cultures, for men and women. Feminists might say that men had considerable sexual freedom earlier on than women, viewing the world as some kind of Mad Men free-for-all where everyone got to be Don Draper, but that was hardly true. Men and women alike were criticized for being sexual, but where men just kind of historically accepted it ("Sorry, I'm just a dirty old man, what can I s…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:36 PM
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For people of European ancestry, roughly 105 boys are born for every girl.[1] You do see the decimal point in that link, right? 105 boys are born for every 100 girls being born. A 5% difference seems to be a pretty reasonable amount of variance, or at least it doesn't seem like a strong enough variance to explain the behaviors you describe in your post. This statistic suggests that in Europe, 1 in 21 men are destined to be single for life because there is simply not a partner available for them …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:42 PM
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Maybe, though I'm not disagreeing on the basis of word choice. As others have picked up, your position is extreme, so even if you used a less "loaded" word here, it wouldn't change the point that you genuinely are more inclined to assume a maxim of absolute selfishness in a woman over a more gray area level of "marked selfishness". I prefer to hang in the gray area because you have the opportunity to maximize benefits and minimize consequences if you can understand the nuances of the area. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 02:28 PM
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I'm saying that your evaluation of SMV may be inherently flawed if you are setting its development to accommodate the extreme limit of sociopathy in women. You may never leave Monk Mode if you assume all women are sociopaths such that you must develop enough value to exchange with people whose costs are inherently too high. You have $100, and most women want $200 from you. Meanwhile, sociopathic women don't want $200 from you. They want whatever amount of money you have and $20 more. So, if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 02:01 PM
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In my mind, Monk Mode is the negation of game. Game is momentum. Game is having both the mass that is value multiplied by the velocity that is action. If you lack value or action, then you aren't practicing game. You're sitting alone at a bar or alone at home. You can sit there smug that you have made the correct (though trivial) choice, but I don't see any goal or accomplishment in it. I'm not even convinced it's beneficial to your game to just intellectually masturbate yourself and try to legi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 01:33 PM
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Honestly, I don't think it's possible to change your view here because you're asking us to prove a negative. You will never be wrong if you take the approach of assuming the worst of people, trusting them to always act in their own self-interest. You're taking it to the extreme of bringing selfishness up to the level of outright sociopathy, which again, you're never going to be wrong if you assume everyone is out to not only protect their interests, but exploit you as well. However, the one thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 01:18 PM
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That's true. People who do not accept red pill are, by definition, blue pill for the most part. However, I'm saying that the breakdown of self-identification comes with no one wanting to self-identify as something that lacks the same structure and content as their opposition. RP has an entire community and philosophy to support its existence, while BP only has a parody community. Who wants to connect their comments to a community (BP) that only seeks to tear down another community (RP), not actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 10:47 PM
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The fundamental problem is that The Red Pill is a collection of ideas, principles, and content, while the The Blue Pill is just...well, Not-RP. People can disagree with RP because there is something substantial there with which to disagree, but people can't really disagree with BP because it really lacks any core ideas with which to disagree. Heck, you can't even agree with BP because what are you agreeing to? Some cherry-picked counterpoints to RP? While subscribers of RP may have their variant…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 10:37 PM
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I suppose it's just hard to separate my personal view from something more neutral unfortunately. I do agree with you about the two contentions, but I see them more as first-order and second-order contentions than separate lines of argument. Yes, to first-order, most disagreement in PP happens because RP sees the world one way (Alpha Fucks, Beta Bux) and BP sees the world another way (No, that's totally untrue. Women love all kinds of men.). However, to second-order, those disagreements boil down…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:13 PM
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RP - Red Pill - a philosophy encouraging actions and behaviors that take the world for what it is, not how it should be, often as they relate to social and relational issues. Rather than living by idealized morals and ethics espoused by others who stand to benefit in some way from such obedience, a RP individual seeks to find the morals and ethics that make them feel satisfied and fulfilled with their lives, taking the actions best-suited to meeting their goals, not best suited to receiving some…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:45 PM
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I'm not disagreeing, hence my admission that my argument was indeed weak. However, I did want to make clear that there are people like me who place the burden on ourselves to gather information on our partner and their behavior over placing the burden on others to not withhold that information. Cheaters aren't these magical, mysterious creatures who behave in random, arbitrary ways. They have shared characteristics and flags that make clear who they are, and sometimes, yeah, you give into the te…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 08:41 PM
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It's like saying "well he was happy raising the child before he found out that it's not biologically his". I'm admittedly pretty biased on this particular kind of matter because I assign myself some pretty significant agency when it comes to this stuff. If I am choosing to stay with a partner who gives me a significantly low amount of their attention, then I'm accepting that situation for what it is. If I am choosing to raise a child and treat them as my own, then I'm accepting that situation fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:53 PM
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Let me re-frame things a bit. I think it is amoral that these ten women are happy and satisfied being in a relationship with a man who gives them 1/10 of the attention and resources they would otherwise receive from a fully-committed man. Morality doesn't change the point that these women, in spite of other options, are attracted to this type of person, which means they have a role to be filled there. However, "trustworthy" is probably part of that role as well. These women may lose their attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:16 PM
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See, the examples you are using don't really match up with my understanding of the principle that sexual strategy is amoral. Sexual strategy being amoral has, for me, been the idea that the tools and tactics used to develop attraction are not guided by our values or morality. The amorality comes from the idea that we can't control what turns us on and off about people, so we have no moral decision to make. A woman can say all day that she wants a partner who is thoughtful, devoted, sensitive, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 06:43 PM
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And, yes, it probably is true that men are for more sexual value from the women they see than platonic value, and women see the opposite. That's why I said it. I'm just helping you make the distinction between the types of value to help you perhaps understand the difference of perception. Though to be clear, it's not even a matter of compliments. It's a matter of validation. Men receive their validation through sex, and women receive their validation through emotional connection. A man will see …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:16 AM
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Use some adjectives. if a woman wants to have sex with guy A but not guy B, she believes guy A has more sexual value than guy B. If a girl is willing to have kinky sex with guy A but only regular sex with guy B, she believes guy A has more sexual value than guy B. You value your friends for their platonic value more than the guy on the street, but you value that guy on the street for his sexual value more than your friends. And, yes, it probably is true that men are for more sexual value from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:03 AM
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I think the fallacy is that these tips are often given to guys who are looking to be handed ways to attract women, but they don't represent what works for men who are successful from seemingly day one. Being yourself, being nice, being sensitive, and being romantic? Those things are easy. That doesn't make them bad, but confidence, assertiveness, and dominance are qualities that are much harder to obtain. They can't be handed to you. They aren't a book away from developing. They aren't to be fou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 01:57 AM
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'Sexual strategy is amoral.' With regard to the statement itself, the key word isn't amoral. It is strategy. The sentiment is making clear that the most effective strategies for pursuing partners are not the natural product of moral behavior, nor are they necessarily aligned with a given person's sense of morality. Yes, there can be overlap where an effective strategy also happens to be moral, but the qualities of effectiveness and morality are not causal, just occasionally correlated. If a part…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 01:49 PM
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There's a hidden variable that the article does not relate, but is demonstrated by the pictures it includes and the people I saw posting it all over Facebook for a week. The so-called holders of these "Dad Bodies" are also implicitly members of fraternities. The pics from these articles show all the men in typical college fraternity wear, and so many of the girls posting it were sorority. Yeah, that's anecdotal, but check for yourself. It's not about the body. It's about the socioeconomic circum…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:55 PM
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