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usobitter/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 12:44 AM
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usobitter/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 02:10 AM
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That's a whole bunch of words but no elaboration of why.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 09:53 PM
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Not who you responded to but in my opinion, what you are unable to fulfill in one category you try to make up in another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 04:22 PM
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Aww, James wasn't that bad from what I remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 05:26 AM
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No, being in a relationship with a sycophant is not a goal for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:50 AM
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Agree. They're pretty much two sides of the same coin. It's a lose-lose situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 07:11 AM
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You're so brave!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:18 AM
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Lol omg, you terpers are so adorable when you feel threatened. You about to show me a movie what with all that projection you got going on, sweetie? Edit: also, angry texts would never hold up as a acceptable reason to assault someone. But you keep thinking that they will. As I said, I'll look forward to that whiny post about being charged with "false battery".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 12:24 AM
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Lol, as if it's my responsibility to educate ignorant bigots. You do that. I'll keep an eye out for your future post where you cry about being falsely charged with battering ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:30 PM
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Your as in trp since that's what you were talking about. Yes, I'm angry at homophobic terpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:20 PM
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I don't have to treat it as monolith when it's already part of your core messages. No one's mentioned feminism but you, get over your fear of them being a bogeyman out to get you. I guess you enjoy being wrong what with all the rampant homophobia openly on display in terper forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:54 PM
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Quoting others is a weak attempt of trying to hide your lack of intelligence, sugar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:38 PM
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Because prejudices are still highly prevalent. Your whole movement proves as much. But you just go on and stay jaded. Mostly means something is a major occurrence. How about you not say shit you don't want to stand behind? That's hilarious that you can pretend I'm the one who only sees things in absolutes, believer of an ideology men and women can only ever think and be one way. Don't worry, I don't expect you to post anything since you've done a shit job backing up your claims so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:20 PM
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Oh, well I guess since "several" are there that somehow means terpers calling them inferior and looking down on them somehow no longer counts. Even though they qualify it as a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:10 PM
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You too, hun. I'm sure you'll learn to read if you just keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:02 PM
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I guess that makes you a woman if that's how you interpret what's going on. Nice talking to you, Miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:16 AM
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Ha you think so? I thought terpers told you guys to avoid women with gay friends because "the gays" boost their women's confidence and offer emotional support. I thought terpers viewed gay men as beta manginas orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:16 AM
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Men making up a greater percentage of an occupation in no way implies women don't want to do the job. But I'll be sure to let are the doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists, etc. that they're just doing useless shit. You link to an image about "male privilege" and somehow that proves your point that companies are less profitable hiring women. I mean your image pretty much shows that men are worse candidates to hire since they're more likely to die/kill themselves. I dunno what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:11 AM
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Lol, at assuming I have ovaries, and pretending that you've said anything retaining even a iota of substantiality. Also, lol at saying stupidity is contagious. Through the internet. While at the same time defending a post that claims men are so simple minded that even reading the words "I am a woman" shuts off their brains and makes them solely think about having sex with that woman. EL OH EL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 08:09 AM
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"It's amusing as hell that I'm so shitty at defending my barely there argument that I have to resort to insults that literally make no sense, hurr hurr. Insulting you makes my point stronger." I salute you for staying aboard the sinking ship that is your terrible, terrible idiotic misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:10 AM
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The fact that you unironically can say that you're not heavily spewing ad hominem attacks while at the same time throwing a bunch of insults about ignorance and slobber in an attempt to detract from your flimsy stance is nothing short of pure comedy. You saying I don't understand the misogynistic piece of shit you're defending in no way makes what I said untrue. It calls women worthless, and I don't care if you want to live in a fantasy world where you can pretend it's saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 02:58 AM
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You make a claim and won't link to your source but instead tell others to do it. Besides, what you claimed is that women are more than willing to let men do the hard work, a job chart breakdown does not prove that at all. My bad, I did miss that you were declaring it not asking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 02:27 AM
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The core message is, "women are worthless except in the context of sex, that's why I think they should post nudes if they ever mention they are women", but you keep hamstering that it's not with all these bullshit excuses. Cute that you're arguing that mentioning anything about yourself adds nothing to the conversation while at in the same breathe accusing me of being unattractive because you don't like what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 02:18 AM
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You're asking other people to prove your opinion. I just want to make sure you understood what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:01 PM
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Lol the core message literally says the only reason men listen to women is because they want to have sex with them and you're trying (and horrifically failing) to pretend that it's anything but misogyny. Go look at read a comment by a woman or go stare at a woman since apparently that's all it takes to make males go gaga and stop their brains from functioning properly. Maybe it'll help you get rid of all your hostility at the mere thought of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:00 PM
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You defend a misogynistic image and now you're getting mad that I pointed out how it's trying to justify women as being worthless aside from what they offer your dick. I'm sorry that you don't like it when you get called out for debasing half the human population. I'd like to see you prove that every single one of those commentors are male and have never ever even vaguely referenced to being male. Either way, 7 subforums on one site do not represent the entirety of the internet. I find it hilari…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:58 AM
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That is the implication of the 4chan image which you linked. But you keep trying to pretend the text isn't just some weak ass attempt as justifying misogyny. Men constantly point out they're males which is the entire point of this conversation. Both sexes do it whether intentionally or not and, no it's not because they think they'll get "preferential treatment". In a way, they sure are imposing their masculinity but no one gives a shit whereas your logic seems to be that reading "as a woman..." …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:42 AM
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It's a natural reaction to view half the population as nothing but a warm hole and believe they are absolutely worthless otherwise? No, that's the way people like you think. By mentioning they're for no reason males, talking about their genitals, talking about who they want to stick their dick in, etc. How long have you been using the internet for? It's clear that you're intentionally turning a blind eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:33 AM
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That doesn't even sort of prove your point. And it is a meme because that shit gets posted everywhere as some sort of undeniable explanation of why women are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:51 AM
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I missed the point of telling women to show their tits or gtfo? The second sentence literally says that people want to fuck women so they pretend to care about what she says because maybe she'll have sex. You can try to dress it up as being a good thing but you're literally saying women are worthless aside from when they have sex. And don't pretend guys don't constantly make the fact that they're male known. You all just don't care because you're not trying to fuck them. The whole meme is just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:48 AM
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So you're saying that it's a positive thing that people only pay attention to women because they want sex and that in reality women literally have absolutely nothing to offer aside from their bodies. (Or at least that's the idea you're supporting by posting that 4chan meme)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:56 AM
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Exactly what are you qualifying as "positive attention"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:52 AM
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It's rational to be angry when you find out you've been lied to your whole life Is it really though? Things said on trp are explaining life so wouldn't witnessing what trp already claims make it much easier to accept? That is why they are called betas So beta men aren't more logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:24 AM
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There is both But that's what I don't get, if trp truths are logical and provides clarity, why would there be any anger? Experiencing emotions =/= Irrationality Didn't claim that. But anger in this context seems illogical. There are certainly a lot more men on /r/TheRedPill than there are women Indeed. But wouldn't all men exposed to trp see it's truth since it's logical and men are logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:59 AM
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Once the realization sets all of you past experiences suddenly make sense and your memories start popping in and you see the of the experiences where you fucked up in some way, or were confused. So wouldn't there be clarity and joy at understanding what was wrong, as opposed to anger? Suggesting that they shouldn't experience regret, anger, resentment, etc. is suggesting they aren't human. Once again, not what I'm claiming at all. My question is, wouldn't they just accept it since it's logical a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:03 AM
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I'm not saying that men are emotionless, I'm saying since the things on said on trp are what how rpers say life works and people who read trp turn to it because it makes so much sense, why is there an anger phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:54 AM
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If these men already witness rp truths in their day to day lives which is what made them turn to trp in the first place, why isn't it easy for them to accept, especially since men are more logical? I'm interested in how trp feels men and women process and readily accept information.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:43 AM
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I never claimed they were robots, I'm just saying that since they pretty much experience things trp claims, wouldn't it be logical for them to accept it as making sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:40 AM
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I never claimed men are emotionless though, you can read my post's edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:25 AM
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I'm not claiming that men are emotionless. My point is, since everything else has failed these men which is the whole point of why they turn to trp in the first place. So when reading these rp truths, wouldn't it immediately make sense to them (since it's what they witness and men are programmed to more easily accept these logical truths) as opposed eliciting anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:23 AM
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I'm not saying men never experience emotions, I'm saying trp claims that they process situations based on rationality as opposed to just emotions like they claim women do. So following that logic, even if their world view is being crushed, wouldn't men who read trp see it as making perfect sense? Especially since everything that they've experienced which led them to trp is pretty much supported by what trp says? So logically men who are considered as being rational should be able to process and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:51 AM
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But that's not what I'm talking about. In general, rpers believe that men are inherently logical while women are inherently emotional when processing information. So if that's the case, there shouldn't be an anger phase for men who are newly introduced to trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:33 AM
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So you don't agree with trp's stance on men being rational while women are emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:29 AM
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The sidebar material has nothing to do with the adamant claims constantly made by redpillers about it being a self improvement sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:36 PM
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I thought trp was touted as being all about self improvement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:18 PM
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Thanks, this makes it so much more comprehensive for us non military folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:18 PM
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I'd like to know what those abbreviations mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 12:15 PM
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Show me what lesson plan or religious example where we are commonly taught that all women are divine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:32 AM
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The thread you replied was about we are taught in school and church that women are divine creatures. Someone said that was not their experience to which you replied that women are glorified in the subtext and text of our culture. So I'm asking you for specific examples of that. Specific does not mean "the media and TV shows".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 12:13 AM
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I'm not seeing how this proves that be yourself is more harmful than negatively stereotyping half the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:56 PM
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Those are really vague examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:48 AM
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We need more women because women make everything better! Women are smarter than men! Where is this commonly said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 04:37 AM
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I know this is extremely late but for some reason your reply isn't showing up on my app's inbox and I just found it through my browser. Anyway, if that's not the argument you proposed then what did you mean by this?: Women are certainly glorified in the subtext, and sometimes, the actual text of our culture. It may not be prevelent in your church, but it's certainly the reality we live in if you're in the Americas
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:37 PM
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In op's scenario both men and women have taken the pill. But it sounds like you're saying you're self centered?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:10 PM
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My point is, wouldn't you have to date and apply the c/fm dynamic to begin with when you first start dating and then later find it whether you want to take your relationship further? Or do you act as equals with him until he says you'll be exclusive and then change up your behavior by letting him take lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 04:56 AM
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You can hate the hell out of them. And they'll still fuck you with reasonable success, and respect the hell out of you to boot. All women. Even the "smart ones." Yeah as long as you make sure to conceal your true personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 06:36 AM
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Which is why I said if he was ideal in every other aspect but didn't want to officially define their relationship, wouldn't rpw allow him to because when rpw find a compatible guy they do whatever they can (within reason) to be with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 02:04 AM
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So c/fm is only applicable to marriages for rpw? Does that mean any point before marriage rpw get equal say in decisions and act as equals in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:07 PM
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I'll word op's point now neutrally so it can actually be discussed. Rpw is all about captain/first mate relationship dynamics where the make male gets the final say on all decisions, correct? So if he is against marriage/ or serious ltr but is still ideal in all other aspects, wouldn't the woman just allow him that control?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:52 PM
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What sort of harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:41 PM
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You're u so bitter. FTFY ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:39 PM
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Careful, op, your racism is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:01 PM
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No one ever loved me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:03 AM
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HA! 3 BULLETPOINTS! TAKE THAT YOU LOWLY 2-BULLET-POINT PERSON!!! #winning Oh, just a hunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 11:47 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:52 AM
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Okay, none of what you've linked invalidates my point in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:32 AM
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There's a big difference between random women claiming men are pigs to express frustration and a philosophy who's core ideology is insisting that all women are like that because it's in their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:12 AM
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Was created by men. Is meant to share experiences of harassment that men face on social media like twitter and facebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:35 PM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:27 PM
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"Just be yourself" leaves a lot more room to interpretation than "all women are like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:02 PM
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Like if someone asks why a company makes office chairs for women and I say, "well, because women are shorter than men." The blue pill way of thinking is to assume I actually believe that every women is shorter than every man. But the expression says all women are like that, not that women are like that. There's a distinct difference between the two, one views it as being universal and leaves no room for exception while the other is a bit more of a broader claim. If I said "all redpillers are mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:00 PM
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Oh okay, I thought you meant it was solipsistic that women have sex because they enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:35 PM
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Your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 12:38 PM
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That isn't just a women thing. There are plenty of things you can't say to certain groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:48 PM
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That's not what you said, you said you're kind to women just because they're women. Being nice and not expecting anything in return is completely different than being nice because you're expecting sex, which is what you're doing. You don't view insincere people as bad? That last bit is just your personal, baseless assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:47 PM
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Well I went to catholic school and Mary is only celebrate as being chosen to give birth to the son of God. She was just an ordinary girl who god impregnated. The only time we learned about her was during the holiday season. She was never coveted as being infallible or perfect. The rest of the months were spent learning about every other saint or event in Christian history. I'm not going to argue with you over the merits of immaculate conception because I'm not trying to turn this into a religiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:04 PM
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Got any examples of some school or church lessons worshipping women as infallible beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:11 AM
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Women don't want anything more. They do not want your kindness that mask your selfish ulterior motives. Because what happens to the women that don't "mate" with you? Or the women whom "mating" with us not an option? No one said you should be ashamed of wanting sex, and that's not even what we're talking about. So you're saying the only options are kindness or being raped? If that's the way your mind works then I must implore you to please check yourself into the nearest mental institution becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:07 AM
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The problem isn't kindness, it's your reasons for being kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:45 AM
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Why do you say that? It sounds like your implying that you're only kind to women because they're women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:18 AM
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I went to american school and church. No idea what the fuck these people are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:17 AM
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Also, isn't one of the core tenets of trp to never listen to what women say? But suddenly a thread about guilty attractions is credible it because it conforms to rp beliefs. So only listen to women when they're agreeing with your views but once it stops confirming their bias it's all lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 10:39 AM
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Well that's the way it's going to be interpreted given the context. She says his body gets her off, you say women with partners that have high incomes orgasm harder. Trp claim is that women with higher partner counts are never sexually satisfied as one of the main reasons why men should avoid them. This study proves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:33 AM
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The study shows that women intensity increases based on their partner's attractiveness, income, and humor. Show a study where women orgasm more intensely with a partner who is fugly but rich than they would with an attractive poor guy to at least try to counter her point. Interesting side fact from the study "Women who began having sexual intercourse at earlier ages had more sex partners, experienced more orgasms, and were more sexually satisfied with their partners." This seems to go against re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:06 AM
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She said her husband's looks and dick are what made her orgasm, not his money, intelligence, social standing, or values. You replied: Studies have shown that a woman orgasms harder if the man she's having sex with makes more money. So how was that not the point you were trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 01:30 AM
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I completely agree with you. He's just looking for any excuse to claim that promiscuous women are dangerous. If he's so concerned about STDs and believes that taking precautions such as using protection and getting regularly tested are not enough then the only route left is to be abstinent. Having sex with someone who's had fewer partners in no way lowers anyone's risks and it's ridiculous to preach that as the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 06:00 PM
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Why does this thread which is a poor attempt at trolling get to stay up but the thread about trp being similar to the kkk get taken down instantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 11:28 AM
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Lol, calls women "irrational", believe he's entitled to sex by sheer virtue of existing. You redpillers are adorably tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 11:25 AM
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Quite a bit. I'd prefer someone who's had three or less partners, preferably all ltrs. I wouldn't be adverse to someone who had a few one night stands or fwbs though, lots of people like to have fun and figure out what they want in life during their late teens and early twenties. How he views and treats women and past partners would be much more important to me because that lets me know so much more about his character. But just partner count isn't all that matters when choosing an SO, many othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:15 AM
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There are countless posts detailing the anger phase of TRP where men realize the spoonfed message they've been given on women, is at least innaccurate. I hate this bullshit "it's just an anger phase" excuse trpers use. You can't sit there condoning all the shit they say and just expect people to brush it off on your claim that it's just a "phase". The mods and endorsed contributors and all those links in the sub's sidebar contradict it being something temporary. The difference here is in the sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:17 AM
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Your loaded implications mean nothing. You might as well call TRPers niggers and call it a day. You have the same reasoning as these imaginary bigots you claim to be debating against. I mean come on, there's no way you're not seeing this. You are no better with your stereotypes. You've shown me the error of my ways! When redpillers say women are worthless, I won't call them misogynist because "hypocrisy". In before, "but thats what you do to women!" Women living a happier, more fulfilled life wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 02:10 AM
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Yes, a group of people who choose to follow an ideology that considers women to be less than men is not that same as someone who simply has two x chromosomes. I mean, this is pretty common logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:21 AM
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Women = half of the human race. Trp = a group of people who choose to follow a specific ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:53 AM
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Hey hey now, let's not suggest anything that drastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:36 AM
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So you guys are only concerned with women who do behave badly and claim they're representative of, hence the term AWALT to support your confirmation bias. Trp literally claims the last one under the bs claim that it's biological for women to be manipulative, hypergamous, and solipsistic, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 11:09 AM
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Well then if that's what you meant then it doesn't answer my question. Exactly what "that" are all women like? If AWALT was coined in order to refute claims that when a women acts deviously she's not representative of the whole gender, then what exactly is it refuting? One can only assume that it's literally saying that, no, that is the common behaviour of all women. Or else the phrase is an extreme misnomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:38 PM
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There is no double negative. Just gone in the opposite end of the spectrum with your assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:06 PM
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So, pretty much what I just said about assuming all women are evil. You've just gone from one extreme to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:40 PM
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So what is the default? What is the "all" representing in the phrase awalt? A woman walking away from a guy who pretended to have a Lamborghini is hardly infallible evidence of your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:52 PM
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So it literally does mean awalt, just that all women are inherently evil as opposed to being kind and that all instances of bad behaviour from women are the norm is what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:44 AM
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Sure there's a middle ground but it's all subjective and as soon as sex stops, "she was such a slut" but if it doesn't even begin "she's a prude and something must be wrong with her".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:37 AM
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You guys really need to sort yourselves out on whether awalt is meant to be taken literally or not. You can't make such a huge generalization that is pretty much one of the core components of your ideology, literally call it "ALL women are like that" and then act baffled when people take such a statement literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 10:52 AM
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Yep, been virgin shamed and I always found it hilarious. Apparently a woman being celibate by choice is absolutely mind boggling to males. It's funny how they'll complain about how women are such sluts but as soon as they realize they're not going to get any, suddenly chasity is prudish and only for religious nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 12:42 PM
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Your ignorant racism is showing. I mean, I don't even know where to start because it's just all so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 02:41 AM
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Lol, what are you even asking? And you're only looking at minorities in euro-centric countries and discounting them as being inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 01:52 AM
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Ha, if that's what you classify as a hurried mish-mash, I can not even imagine what a detailed response looks like. You example with the boss really got me thinking; do you think shit tests are conscious efforts on some degree? I didn't view the actions of the employee as being a shit test, but then realized his actions may have been considered inappropriate in a work setting. Also when women shit test you believe they're trying to one up men even in seemingly innocent actions like asking to pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 08:56 AM
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I quoted the sidebar because you seem to have a problem with me asking questions when I'd like someone to expound on an answer they've given. I'm not sure what your point is aside from your theory that I have some hidden agenda. Unless you're shit testing me. Hmm... Do you think shit tests are fitness tests, mind games, or attempts at changing the social hierarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 08:21 AM
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Well, we are talking about TRP here, so... Fair point. I don't fully agree with the second point but that's probably just my bias. I don't know, I've never seen a person get written off because of the brand of car they drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:59 AM
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The sidebar post does not really do a substantial job at explaining shit test, at least in comparison to what I've as being considered shit tests on theredpill which is why I'm asking. I'm sorry you feel like explaining one of your sub's theories to nonmembers is a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:45 AM
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Purple Pill Debate is a community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheRedPill and /r/TheBluePill. Also, nope but thanks for adding another perspective to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:39 AM
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Sure but I still don't see how it negates communication as being a form of seeking attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:36 AM
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Asking if someone has a lot of sex seems like a pretty straight forward question to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:34 AM
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Seems pessimistic to assume they're just judging you and trying to figure out how much money you make or how fancy of a car you drive. I see it more as someone trying to get to know a person's interests or area of expertise, and the car question as just talk about how well it runs and the quality of the vehicle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:29 AM
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Well now you're delving into tone and body language that accompanies the shit test. That's more understandable. But if they're bad things that break rapport in the way you described why would redpillers strive to pass them? Why not fully disengage if the other person sends off signals that they're not interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:24 AM
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Well my if you look at the submission, you'll see that I've asked for what is considered a shit test and what isn't along with the difference between shit tests and qualifiers or whatever the male version of it is called. I thought redpillers loved philosophical debates?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:18 AM
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How do those questions break rapport? To me that builds it and the other was just asking a favor during a meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 08:43 PM
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Are they really considered annoying by redpillers? That's an interesting to view them. I always considered those types of questions plain old conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 08:38 PM
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What if it's asking for help with something as innocuous as passing the salt or taking out the trash on your way out? What if she was genuinely busy and forgot? How could you tell the difference between a shit test and genuine actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:57 PM
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Okay so this is theredpill's sidebar definition and example of a shit test. Do you consider a question like "what kind of car do you drive?" or "where do you work?" or "can you pass the salt?" as being relevant to your explanation? Edit: adding links in mobile is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:53 PM
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Okay so this is theredpill's sidebar definition and example of a shit test. Do you consider a question like "what kind of car do you drive?" or "where do you work?" as being relevant to your explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:49 PM
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Okay what kind of game do you view shit tests as? The whole point of this sub is to justify and explain ideologies. What's the point of even participating if you're not going to answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:39 AM
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I never implied otherwise. That doesn't invalidate the fact that communicating is form of giving attention. Let's try to keep the emotional snark at bay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:33 AM
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Lol, so you're shit testing me. Try answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:25 AM
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That's kind of the equivalent of when guys ask if they're big enough. It's just insecurity and vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:22 AM
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Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to usernames when I reply. So you say shit tests are games women play (I'd classify that more as flirting and building rapport) and the proper response is to show them that you're better than them. Them being annoying isn't really a good enough reason to justify all the malice and hate they get though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:14 AM
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Yes, I get that, I'm asking you why you think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:01 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:42 AM
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How are shit tests not honest? What do you consider a shit test and what do you consider an honest inquiry or action?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:36 AM
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No, I'm not talking about hypergamy. I'm asking what is a shit test why theredpill finds them to be a negative thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:33 AM
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I think it's human nature to aim for the best. But why does theredpill consider it a bad thing when women engage in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:14 AM
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As is all forms of human communication. Does that make it a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:12 AM
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Sure but I've also seen some really innocuous comments or actions that are dismissed as shit tests on trp, such as a woman asking for help with something or a woman not responding to a text quickly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:10 AM
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How else should they find out if someone is right for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:51 AM
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Do you think the same of men who perform quality tests? Is it not good to try and figure out how compatible you'll be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:47 AM
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Actually, in that example and any similar situation I'd say that seems more like flirting and banter, not really a competition to see who's better. Conversations aren't about trying to one up each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:45 AM
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I have seen them sometimes referred to as fitness test. But then why the negative connotation and why so much contempt for them? Isn't testing potential partners compatibility a good thing? Do you mind going into more detail on how the examples you gave of male fitness tests are fitness tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:34 AM
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Do those good responses not qualify as shit tests themselves? All they've done is deflect the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:29 AM
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Having sex isn't going to rule a person's life. Hardly anyone lets their career define their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 08:29 PM
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I think they meant in more in a way of saying their work/sex life didn't define them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 04:47 AM
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If the only thing about me that changed is being born the opposite sex but everything else stayed the same, looks, personality, and goal wise, I'd just keep on doing what I do now. Join clubs to meet people who share the same hobbies as I do and volunteer like I do now to make friends with people whom I have things in common with. It's how I've made a good chunk of my friends and how I've found relationships in the past and it's how everyone I know has found their S.O.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 07:04 AM
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I never hinted at thinking OP is infallible, it's trp that calls her qualities unique and make her a unicorn. You disagree and find these qualities ordinary. I've only asked you what other qualities do you think should be offered in a relationship. You've yet to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:49 PM
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I really was hoping you'd answer since you think the OP only offers the standard qualities and seem to perceive her as being entitled since because she has tits and a vagina as you put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 11:28 PM
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Okay, but my question was what qualities would you want in a partner that aren't listed here because the reason she's made this list is because these qualities are what trp thinks makes a unicorn. All you've told me so far is that she's only listed average things that should be expected in any relationship, so I'm asking you what's missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 05:46 PM
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Do you mind linking to it because the one that I've seen is pretty much what OP listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 08:36 PM
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So what amazing qualities do you want in a partner aside from everything that OP listed? If that's not what trp calls a "unicorn" then what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 05:09 PM
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So you're saying guys like the idea of being a cuckhold of sorts. Lovely. No, I am saying that a girl that fucked 20 average buring guys are more acesible than one that dated 3-4 PUAs or RPilers. I'm sorry, do you mean accessible? I don't understand how this reinforces your assertion. Yes unfortunetly this is the new "normal" but that is just because men become domesticated animals after being commited and women have much higher standards due to their relationship history. So you're telling me r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:47 AM
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Sometimes that can work to. When X fucks Y, X actually love his mental image of Y more than Y. I don't see how this relates to your original assertation. More relationships than penises, if you had one average penis you've had them all. Just a minute here, at first you said sluts are unable to form deeper connections, now you're telling me that just one is enough to bore women in all her future potential relationships? I't not that it shuts down, they still want a relationship, intimacy and so o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 08:21 AM
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What fantasy? The fantasy of knowing the person you're having sex with had sex with someone else? I really don't understand what you're saying here. So after a certain amount of penises the part of their brain that helps them bond just shuts down forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 11:45 AM
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It's not about the drugs per se, but about the power, the high risk behavior and the trill. This creates a fantasy that is better than sex for women. You know you're basing that on your feelings again right? Regardless, my point still stands, not wanting to date someone doing something illegal is in no way comparable to not wanting to date someone based on how much sex they've had. No, that women with high partner counts find deeper connections not as satisfying as "virgins", at the time I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 11:28 AM
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It's the same trill, exitement, legality is irrelevant to men, but not to women. We get that trill from female promiscuity. Not really. Sex is in no way comparable to drug dealing. But I did notice a correlation and this was in my pre red pill days when I didn't have the sense to not ask. Are you saying you noticed you could no longer connect with someone after they revealed their partner count?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 10:18 AM
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There is no rhetoric that micromanages your life, every world view is applicable only trough individual interpretations. Sure it can't micromanage your life but there are definitely core aspects of trp that it's followers abide by and deeply believe in that make them redpillers or else there would be nothing that seperates them from everyone else. No, you comit for the exclusivity, not the sex, not to share rent, net out of fear of loosing the gorl and not to avoid loneliness. You give up a form…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 10:43 PM
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You really aren't balancing anything out, you just sound like you're deep in the closet. You really don't get not prioritising your ego over your partner, do you? Haha, this is more apt of a question that you should be asking yourself. All redpillers claim they know the rhetoric better than anyone who tries to argue it with them. Sadly, no redpiller can actually explain redpill philosophy because once it's core, highly agreed upon points are brought up, the whole lifestyle becomes nebulous and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:11 AM
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yes I do, men haven't the interest, balls or cold hearted ness to manipulate their SOs without some serious restructuring of their values. Lol you sure do enjoy pedestalizing men. Being an asshole is not gender exclusive. They are not projection, the are real wold effects, and yes, cunts follow that type of mindset: you are awesome but your personality is the the greatest thing about you. It makes narcissists that can not take legitimate criticism or praise. No it's definitely projecting. I sayd…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:26 PM
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Interest is more than eye contact, I have an issue with these types of advice even when I find them in the red pill, and seriously, just staring out of context creates more confusion than comunicates interest. But it's not telling women to just stare out of context, it's telling them to initiate and maintain eye contact during interactions. You don't look for common interest because you rarely have any, you are individuals so in practice this leads to faking it. People rarely have common interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:31 AM
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Sorry for the delayed reply, phone never alerted me of the reply. I find it amusing that you linked to a cosmo article but alright. Let's compare your translation to what the article actually says: don't tell him you're interested, just stare and be vague This one's a bit iffy but the author never states that you should just stare at him, it's telling women to always make eye contact and maintain eye contact. pretend to have things in common It actually says "focusing on the ways in which you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 12:41 PM
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Do you have some examples of how it is acceptable and what kind of manipulation are they thought? And do you think this is exclusive to just women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 07:19 AM
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How is a woman always in power?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 02:25 AM
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So any kind of relationship where one partner is dominant and has control over the other is fulfilling an "ancestral itch", as you put it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 05:36 PM
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Even Femdom/male sub relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 10:44 AM
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I don't think making a scene erotic is necessarily a requisite in helping women get off, at best it's just a nice bonus that adds to the mood. Not many people watch porn and can get off to just the storyline or scenery no matter how erotic it looks. Basic, vanilla porn aimed at men focus on what get men off but it's not nearly as straightforward as you described. Men's porn still focuses on the woman's body and positions, her facial expressions, and the sounds that she makes. All these things ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 08:31 AM
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No, it's not as not the scene or the story, it's about how the actual sex is being performed. Also, porn aimed at women doesn't just focus on shots of the women, they actually include the male performing the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 09:13 PM
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Having someone just jack hammer you in different positions and then finish themselves on your face doesn't look very enjoyable and it's easy to tell when those women are faking and when a guy is just going by a script. People watch what they're find enjoyable when they watch porn and for most women, someone pounding at them is the opposite of that. Porn aimed at women is sensual and passionate. A couple of subs that demonstrate this were linked above if you'd like some clear examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 03:14 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/14 11:18 PM
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It focuses on making the sex look like it's actually pleasurable and enjoyable for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/14 10:55 PM
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Because most porn is tailored to men? A large majority of porn consist of scenes that focus on a women getting pounded in several positions and the ejaculated on in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/14 10:40 PM
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You've put a fair amount of thought into this fantasy haven't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 09:31 AM
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Yeah, that's totally what's going to happen. Not at all just a hamstering revenge fantasy for you to jerk off to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 08:54 AM
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I mean, if you want to hamster yourself into believing that, that's your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 08:28 AM
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So you're basing your statement solely on your bias against feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 07:43 AM
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But feminism does protect those bitches from being called out and reinforces their beta boys delusion with rethoric like "it's just a phase" or "she needs to find herself". That's a pretty bold claim, do you have any proof that backs that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 10:13 PM
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A duck that believes it's fooling others into thinking it's a potato seems more likely but I'll wait for your edit to the other comment tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 12:18 AM
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If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 12:03 AM
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So, you make a several posts and comments (so much that they decided to make you an ec) that obviously align with trp beliefs but you're not a redpiller?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 11:04 PM
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I find it weird that they think being attracted to other people means their partner isn't Mr. Right. Edit: where did you get the 4% from?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 05:42 AM
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Not using methods of manipulation, coercion, taking advantage of their weakness, or any other form of trickery/false advertisement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 12:08 AM
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Using their weaknesses against them and making them insecure for your own personal gain. Funny you felt the need to immediately mention rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 12:06 AM
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Ah I see the problem. Let me clarify for you; if they didn't want to spend money but the salesperson convinces the customer (not using methods of manipulation, coercion, taking advantage of their weakness, or any other form of trickery/false advertisement) and the customer then willfully agrees and therefore wants to spend their money obviously they are not being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 10:35 PM
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Still not seeing how you're jumping to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 10:04 PM
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If you want to pretend that "taking advantage of" and "changing intention" are synonymous, go for it bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 09:52 PM
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If they take advantage of people in order to make a sale, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 09:45 PM
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Unless a customer already intended spend money, yeah they're being taken advantage of. I never said it was a crime though just someone who has poor morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 09:39 PM
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When you say someone who is getting exploited is not a victim, that's victim blaming. And the question was why is trp wrong if it works. If it takes exploitation to attract women then yeah, it's wrong in my opinion, I'm not really interested in how you want to spin it in to being the exploitee's fault. If narcissism, machiavellism, and psychopathy are what works for you and your husband then more power to you but let's not pretend using people's weaknesses against them and making them insecure i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 04:11 AM
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I mean, if you just want to victim blame that's your prerogative. Which just brings me back to my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 12:06 AM
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As I said, being influenced does not make a person dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 11:48 PM
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Being influenced into something you wouldn't normally do does not make you dumb. I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 11:26 PM
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Yes, they're doing things they wouldn't normally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 11:12 PM
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According to trp, women won't do those things willfully which is why trp needs to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 08:19 PM
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Is it wrong to become a thief if it works? Or harass/threaten someone you don't like if it works? These are all questions of morality so it's all subjective but in my opinion just because something may work that doesn't it's worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 02:30 AM
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What about r/beatingwomen? Isn't it literally about gender violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 10:20 AM
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I disagree, Chris Brown didn't get more male fans because his music is red (I don't agree with this btw, he doesn't have tons of songs about women being just hoes), he got more male fans because of his dance songs. I've already explained why it's related to that audience. Guys think it;s impressive to get tons of sex with multiple women. The same way most music that is popular and relatable to women is about a guy being wholly in love with her. It's easy to make songs about hoes and whatnot beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 11:51 PM
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Just because a guy (take Chris Brown again for example) is not on reddit posting in a forum, doesn't mean he is not RP thinking or holds ideologies that line up with what is posted all over RP websites That's nice but if you had read my comment more carefully, you would have realized that I was specifically referring to the redpill subreddit and it's subscribers who talk about having tons of plates. So your point of Chris brown being redpill and using him as an example really doesn't counter any…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 10:03 PM
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Sure I've listened to him. He's also made many songs like 'with you', 'fallen angel', 'no air', 'so cold', 'diagnosed with love', 'wait for you'...etc. I'm sure you get my point. Theses are just some off the top of my head but I know he's made a shot ton of other songs about being in love, only wanting that girl, and showering her with affection. Very much against trp. Old school rap wasn't about misogynistic and sexist because it was old school and still only just becoming popular. Those mainst…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 09:18 PM
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Sure I did and I said I don't think such a comparison is even semi accurate. I find it hard to believe that such high value guys who are "spinning so many plates" so effortlessly are spending their free time on an Internet forum dedicated to insulting women. No need to be purposelessly rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 08:31 PM
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Yes that's usually how casual sex works but I'm specifically referring to how trp handles them. They don't seem to talk much about whether their plates see other guys so it's unclear to me. They do however talk about how devoted and in love with them some of their plates are which is why I assumed the women they hook up with stay faithful to just them. Or it might just be a don't ask, don't tell kind of deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 01:39 PM
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Firstly, the guys on trp are not Chris Brown. Secondly, Chris Brown should not be used as a basis on how relationship dynamics work. You're going to have to back your assertion of women happily sharing a man because he's "high quality" with a lot more then just some pop star's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 01:13 PM
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But they rarely have just one guy they are seeing. Exactly. What are the benefits of having casual sex with just one person while that person gets to hook up with tons of other people? If she's doing it because she hopes it'll develop into a more serious relationship, is she supposed to just sit around and hope that if he ever does decide to settle down he'll choose her? Also redpillers make it explicitly clear that older women (because they've hit the wall) and women with children (risk being h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 10:37 AM
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They say they're honest with their plates but I kind of find it hard to believe. I just don't think there's a plethora of women who are okay with just having a causal relationship with just one guy while knowing he's out there with a bunch of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 10:09 AM
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I have sort of been in a casual relationship situation before but it didn't involve anything sexual so I'm not sure if that counts. This was different because the more I got to know the guy, the more I came to realize he was mainly just fetishizing me. Also, I wasn't looking to be in a short term or casual relationship and made this clear from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 09:47 AM
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A guy whom I was previously interested in dating tried to treat me like a plate which made me cut contact with him immediately. Of course it doesn't feel good knowing that someone you care about only views you as a novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 09:09 AM
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Some men do, and some men do not. That is their choice based on their preferred sexual strategy. Personally, a minority of women do have value beyond their body but they are few and far between. We’re not talking about some men, we’re talking about redpillers, specifically the ones in the thread. Even you support the idea that women have no value, which goes against what you said about anyone who says women bring nothing of value to the world are downvoted and banned. Do you not realize that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 11:02 AM
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As I said in another comment, every human being has worth that are not limited to just their genitals and it's up to everyone else to acknowledge that worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 11:26 PM
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Correct, but is it a man's job to tell a woman how to have value beyond her looks? My point is that they're complaining that women offer nothing aside from the their vagina yet don't explain why they think that. Every human being has worth that are not limited to just their genitals and it's up to everyone else to acknowledge that worth. She loses her value as a potential long term partner if she wasn't worth commitment after the sex. How is that determined? Assuming she was interested in a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 10:52 PM
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None of those comments actually explain what a woman should offer them. But why does a woman lose her worth as a person because she had sex? It even goes against RP philosophy because redpillers believe that if a woman doesn't put out by X amount of time, she's not worth their time. I don't buy the whole "women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment" because it takes two people to have sex or agree on a relationship regardless of whether they're a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 07:33 AM
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Are you serious? This thread proves that those comments are not downvoted at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 05:31 AM
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