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Of course that's something an openly xenophobic maga person who was banned last week for telling a poster to "go back to his home country" would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:23 PM
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I am autistic And xenophobic/racist! Don't forget that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:29 PM
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Every time I hear some chud refer to themselves as "alpha", I read it as "alpha" like in software, i.e. an early undeveloped version full of errors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:45 PM
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If you don't care about me, so surely you won't mind if I keep posting this reminder to people when I see a comment of yours around here, right? If I'm so insignificant, and you are proud of your opinions, I see no reason why you would be upset at me mentioning this to other readers. Also... yes i did, 2x now. No, you never linked me anything before today. You just linked me an unavailable comment from yesterday. Even if it were visible, a comment made yesterday still doesn't prove you weren't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:40 PM
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Whatever comment you're trying to link to was moderated/removed. Also, linking to a thread from yesterday is not evidence that you weren't banned 7 days ago. Your banned comment was made last friday (feb 6), so you were banned until monday (feb 9). In those days I was specifically looking out for your comments, and there were none. You only returned to posting here on the last few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:38 PM
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I linked you to comments from ever day you claim I was banned, you are lying You didn't link me jack squat, wtf are you on about? Also, you gonna address the last paragraph of my comment or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:20 PM
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no I did not get banned Your comment was removed and you vanished from this sub for 3 days. that whole thread was nuked because someone threatened to hit me with a sledgehammer in the face If this were true, only the offending comment would have been removed, yours would have stayed up. Yours didn't stay up. Because yours was the offending one. witch hunting is against the rules lmao This is not what "witch hunting" means, dimwit. I'm adding valuable context about you to the things you say, whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:08 PM
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A reminder to everyone here that this user I'm replying to is a xenophobic maga person who just got banned a few days ago for telling an immigrant who made a post here to "go back to your home country".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 06:31 AM
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Was it just a coincidence then that, once your comment got deleted by the mods, you haven't participated in this subreddit for 3 days?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:45 AM
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Aren't you the person who just got banned for being blatantly xenophobic towards an immigrant here, and telling them he should "go back to your home country"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:49 AM
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Has anyone ever told you you are a terrible communicator? Every time I interact with your comments I end up having to ask you to clarify what you're saying. I'm baffled at how often you write things that I'm sure make sense inside your head, but mean jack squat to everyone else reading it. I just looked at the daily thread sorted by new, to see what people are talking about, and lo and behold. Try this exercise in empathy: When you write a comment, ask yourself "does someone who isn't me get eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:38 PM
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What criteria counts for what? Attractiveness? Men did not decide the biological factors that determine attractiveness for either men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:01 PM
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Your comment is unintelligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:56 AM
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Different situations. One is an average man who is upset because his options are all well below average, and he can't find an average woman like him. The other is an average woman who is upset because all her options are average like her, and she can't find a man well above average who likes her. One of those makes you picky and entitled, the other doesn't. Remind me again, which of the sexes is known for hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:12 AM
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Then you'll have to clarify what exactly you think presents them badly. Because that's exactly what "date within your league" means. If you chase a man who is out of your league, he will pick his best option, and it's very unlikely that you're gonna be that best option. He won't value a woman below his league and won't fear/care about losing her, which is why he can afford to use her for sex and discard her after. If women don't want to be used for sex and discarded (i.e. "pumped and dumped"), t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:50 PM
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So basically if he has options there is no chance he will value you, that's what those men are saying. That it's all about options, and that is a defining part of their behavior. Yeah, a person who has options will only value their best option. This isn't a gendered issue, both men and women do this. The only difference being that women usually immediately discard their options that aren't the best, while men will first see if he can get easy sex out of it, and only then discard them. If for exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:00 PM
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It's not just about physical release/orgasms. Being physically with and touching someone whose body you find attractive feels good. Even better when on top of the attractive body they also have a pleasant personality, and you see them as a cool person. And the psychological satisfaction from having an attractive/cool person finding you attractive/cool as well and choosing to have sex with you. All of those things together (and especially the physical contact with an attractive body) make the phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:11 PM
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Well, you're right, both those examples are massive assholes. I sure wouldn't want to be around them. That being said, was that hyperbole, or have you actually never found even one single man who has not treated you this way? Do even the men you hook up with do this? Also, do you happen to live in a very conservative/traditionalist area? I can't imagine another reason why men behaving this way would be so widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:52 AM
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u/Lemon_gecko Just pinging you again because I'm really curious about what are these insults that you get from every man you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:58 PM
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So, you treat your long term relationships like casual hookups? Yeah. Why wouldn't I? I treat my casual hookups with respect, enthusiasm, and try to make it as positive of an experience as it can be. Then my LTRs get exactly that, plus all the other perks of LTRs. I find it baffling that you would view this as something bad. You seek casual sex ABOVE everything even romance No, I seek them in equal measure (on the people I want relationships with, that is). If either of them are lacking, then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:22 PM
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She gets big numbers Why? Is she sleeping with 100 men and none of those 100 became a relationship? Something is terribly wrong with her then. This is just fantasy. I'm not saying she should make no effort whatsoever to find a person who wants a relationship, and sleep with every guy on the street that wants it. But a woman who is realistic with her expectations will not take that long to find a guy that values her and wants to keep her, even if she gets played once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:10 PM
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Of all the men I know, very few (one to be exact) of them have such an amount of relationship options that they are not willing to wait a few dates for a person they are really interested in. You don't need to have an overwhelming amount of options for what I said to be true. Even two is enough. Or just one, but also knowing from experience that it wouldn't take that long to find another one. That's enough for a man to feel they do not need to entertain the monkey dance expectations. Demanding s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:03 PM
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Yall just want casual sex. Correct. With some women, I want casual sex and nothing else. With others, I want casual sex, and then have that casual sex become a relationship. That's how I found all my LTRs. You want sex from a woman without having to put in effort. Why would I have to "put in effort"? I don't expect a woman I like to "put in effort" to have sex with me. If I find her attractive and she's a kind person, that's all I need for sex to happen. Just focus on hooking up and stop going a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:42 PM
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Sure, if she does actually apply those standards to everyone, no exceptions, then yes, there's nothing wrong with it. It will still shrink your dating pool a lot, but there's no problems beyond that. The context of the post and the discussion above is the women who have one set of expectations for casual relationships, and a different much more strict set of expectations for romantic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:36 PM
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But if there are remainders after filtering are they more likely to be fuckbois or good men. Neither. They are more likely to be desperate men who have no other options and feel forced to accept this treatment to have a chance at dating. Or even manipulators that saw you as a potentially good victim and so will wait however long it takes to have a chance to secure a victim. Normal well-adjusted people will just walk away and find someone else. Or if u have another suggestion to filter out fuckbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:30 PM
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For someone who says "not my problem", you care alot about this topic and insult women for it. I don't "care a lot", I like debating, which is why I'm on the debate subreddit. And again, I didn't insult anyone. You're claiming they date men they dont find attractive if they dont fuck him immediately. 1) No, I did not claim that. I don't know what goes through a woman's head when she decides to act like this. It does not necessarily mean she is dating someone who she finds unattractive. What I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:18 PM
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Casual sex ONLY takes physical attraction Romantic dating takes physical attraction plus romance plus chemistry plus shared interests and an emotional connection Casual sex only needs proof of attraction Romantic relationships need proof of physical attraction and proof of romantic feelings and emotional connections The way you describe it, to a man, makes casual sex sound like a way, way better deal than being in a relationship with you. Women wanting a romantic relationship WANTS the man to sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:09 PM
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Delaying sex filters out everyone, both the fuckbois and the good men alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:00 PM
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and contrary to what some men here claim, delaying sex usually filters out the men that are not actually interested in the person and are only looking for a hookup Delaying sex filters out every man who has options, both the good and the bad ones. You're not accurately filtering out men who only want sex, you're just drastically shrinking your dating pool to desperate men who don't have options. Delaying sex will also make her observe his behavior longer to look for red flags. Except that the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:00 PM
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You vet them for certain qualities before doing things that get you attached to them, like sex. I can see why you would think that, but I (as well as any man who isn't desperate) have no incentive to accept this. Then why are you insulting them? Sounds like you do see it as your problem. I didn't insult them. What is it exactly in my comment that you understood as "insulting"? I don't understand where you got this from. Most people don't fuck on the first date. In fact, most dont even fuck by da…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:49 PM
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They should then withold intimacy from you, for the same reasoning u just made. If they do, I'll discard her. That wouldn't be an effective way of dating me. As u have no sympathy for women choosing wrong Choosing wrong means seeing a man has undesirable characteristics (e.g. conservative, traditionalist, nascissist, arrogant, aggressive, etc.) and still picking him because he's hot. Choosing wrong is not the same as having sex early. If her father was an asshole, she will probably choose an ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:34 PM
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Yes it does, these guys will be pushy for sex and show a lack of interest in her without sex. They can also show they're not good people. That means men who aren't desperate will not date you to begin with, and men who are desperate will be discarded by you when they get pushy. A fantastic recipe to end up alone. If that's what you want, and you're one of those "I'm fine being single forever" women, then by all means. But for a woman that is actively interested in dating/finding a relationship, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:25 PM
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That is exactly my thought process. If one of the very first things a woman does while dating is put up barriers for sex, that does not bode well for the future of that relationship. It is so much easier to just go look for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:15 PM
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The issue isn't whether she is attracted to me or not (though obviously I want her to be attracted to me), it's that I would feel insulted regardless. I'm already not interested in a relationship that starts that way and requires "long investment" to get to sex, but knowing that some other dude got it without having to make that investment makes it even worse. I don't think it's a sound strategy in the long term. By delaying sex you filter out good men (because good men have other options and do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:15 PM
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You're still insulting them and implying they want men they're not attracted to. That's not what insulting means. Saying they are making themselves unattractive for relatioships is not insulting. As for being attracted to men, if a woman is only interested in men who are out of her league and have better options then her, she's setting herself up for failure. You're contradicting yourself, which is why I made this post. What is the contradiction? How would you know? If "physically interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:59 PM
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So you think a woman shouldn’t learn from her experiences? If "learning from her experiences" = will make me jump though hoops for sex, why would I want to be with her to begin with? She can do whatever she wants, but if I don't get sex by date 3 at most, I'm dropping her and finding someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:41 PM
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It’s so funny watching guys here and in the red pill blame victims of abuse for not choosing better and how a lot of single moms didn’t choose better. Rightfully so. The majority of those women had a pool of men interested in them to choose from. In that pool, there were men who were not abusive, interested in long term, and who wouldn't abandon her with a kid. But instead of those men, they picked the one that was the most attractive but also ended up being abusive/leaving her. So 1) she doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:28 PM
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I've said that one of my criteria for choosing a man is that he doesn't insult me too much. A guy once reacted with, "Why can't you just choose someone who wouldn't insult you at all?" And the answer is, those men basically don't exist. They all do it. You need thick skin if you want to talk to a man; you have to be able to tolerate some insults and figure out whether he's doing it maliciously or just "being a man." You're gonna have to be more specific, you can't just make vague claims like thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:54 AM
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So? It's still sex. Why would I be upset at having sex with someone who sees me as "default acceptable"? I still have sex, and sex is good. I'll keep having sex with this woman as long as she wants to, and once she no longer wants to I'll go look for someone else to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:13 PM
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Would you still be so enthusiastic to be hookup material? It's fucking hilarious that you ask this like it's some kind of gotcha, only to learn that most men will answer "yes, why wouldn't I?" That's exactly what the point of being hookup material is, to be picked for sex. The guy in your scenario got picked for sex, so it worked and he's happy. If he never sees the woman again after having sex, he's still happy with the sex. Hell, in some cases he may find never seeing this woman again after se…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:29 PM
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You have to be a special kind of brainlet to somehow think the small handful of dudes you personally hooked up with are representative of every man on the planet. Doesn't help that they put on an act of pretending to be nice 🤣 Again, those are the kind of men you choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:32 PM
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Sex requires a lot of learnt skills tbh. Yeah, and by your own self admission you have been incapable of finding someone with these skills. So again, have some self-reflection to understand why you are consistently picking selfish, unskilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:14 PM
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That's not the point of my comment. I'm not telling you you shouldn't have sex, I'm telling you the criteria you use to pick men to have sex with are leading you to specifically choose the ones who are selfish and bad at sex, and to discard the ones who are selfless and good at sex. So the answer is for you to self-reflect on why you have this behavior that sets yourself up for failure, instead of coming to the internet to claim that all men suck at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:25 PM
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Honestly having casual sex with men sucks. They are bad at it, or selfish and cum too fast. No, the men you pick are bad at it and selfish. There are tons of men all over the world who are considerate, selfless partners that care about your pleasure. It's you who are consistently discarding them and picking the bad/selfish ones instead. You need some self-reflection to understand why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:54 PM
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Speak for yourself. All 3 LTRs I have had (including my current one) started with us having sex first, and the relationship only coming later. In fact, I wouldn't have considered the relationship to begin with if I hadn't had sex first. Plus all the other casual/short-term flings where obviously there was sex involved and a relationship never came to be. Women like and want sex too. This "no sex until relationship" nonsense is just terminally online behavior, not what normal people are like in r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:03 AM
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Most men who call women who have casual sex slurs and men who seek out casual sex are the same men. "Source: my ass."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:03 PM
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Because you guys call them sluts or bring up body count stuff online. Goomba fallacy. This subreddit needs this image pinned at the top, because it's baffling how many of you here suffer from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:20 AM
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"There we go" yourself. Didn't take long for what you really meant to come out. This has nothing to do with being "masculine". You're just upset that you're a conservative asshole, and people don't like conservative assholes. The reason people don't like you is not anything related to masculinity, it's your disgusting, deplorable conservative beliefs. Now, I don't know what gave you the ungodly stupid idea that conservativism is the same as masculinity. But you're conservative, so not being very…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:23 AM
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Normal behavior also doesn't have to be censored. Are you gonna clarify what exactly you mean by "normal masculine behavior", or are you going to intentionally leave it vague like this, making it obvious to everyone reading that by "masculine behavior" you just mean "being a conservative piece of shit"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:16 AM
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Why would you need to censor yourself? Really struggling to disprove the "behaving in a typically masculine way" = "behaving like a dickhead" allegation here. It very much just sounds like you want to be able to be a piece of shit, and for some ungodly reason that's what you call "being masculine".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:54 AM
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Try behaving in a typically masculine way in a book club You're gonna have to go ahead and define "typically masculine way" for us. Because they only way this sentence of yours makes any sense is if "behaving in a typically masculine way" = "behaving like a dickhead" in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:20 AM
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Your basis for that claim is one random idiot writing ragebait content 10 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:47 AM
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I'm not addressing the second part of what you wrote. That's why I quoted the first paragraph specifically. The second part of what you wrote has nothing whatsoever to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the expectations about who pays, not about when or whether sex happens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:40 PM
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I never understood this whole “split the bill” debate. If you ask someone out, get the bill. It’s that simple. Everyone knows that this "the person who asks is the one who pays" bullshit is just a more roundabout way to say the same thing. This is only said by women who never ask men out to begin with, which has the same end result, she will never pay and the men will always have to pay. This is just something you say when you want men to pay for you, but you're afraid of being labeled as selfis…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:32 PM
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This is a complete non-sequitur. I never claimed that relationships are not conditional. I said that my relationship is not conditional on money/status specifically, in response to OP's claim that men have no option but to accept that they will have to spend money/status specifically if they want to be with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:54 PM
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Your anecdote is not a reflection of every woman in existance. Your friend's wife is a horrid person and your friend should dump her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:40 PM
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People who post here complaining about how hard it is to attract and keep women seem to want to do that And your solution to those people is "impress your date by spending money on her, so maybe you have a chance at sex"? How is that any different from prostitution? If someone isn't satisfied with the idea of going to a prostitute, they won't be satisfied with the idea of impressing a date with money either, because to men it's the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:36 PM
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I don't understand what point you're trying to make with this, but there's a lot of men who are laid-off/unemployed and in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:13 PM
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For whatever reason the free things you provide might not be enough or even wanted for the other person. That's my point. I know those people exist, but why would I ever want to be with someone like them? If the answer is "because you find her attractive and want to sleep with her", I can get a prostitute that is even more attractive, more convenient for me, and much cheaper. The implication of your post is that "as a man, you are trapped and will be forced to give in to high maintenance women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:57 PM
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Because one assumes you are seeking her because you think she will add to your life by providing sex or companionship Yes, I'm with my girlfriend because she adds to my life by providing sex and companionship. She's with me because I also add to her life by providing sex and companionship. Why would I want to be with someone for whom sex and companionship (and intimacy, emotional support, etc) is not enough? Wanting money/status out of a relationship is what is utterly bizarre. I am only ever go…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:39 PM
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You have no way of knowing that, you cannot make this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:18 PM
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Again, that is not gaslighting. Gaslighting is an abuse method that one abusive person does to one victim. One group of people telling you one thing, then another group of people telling you something different is not gaslighting. You should also familiarize yourself with this concept: goomba fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:29 AM
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First of all, pay attention to the usernames you're responding to. I'm not the guy you were arguing with, it's not me you have to send your sources too. Second, why the fuck are you here if you don't want to debate in good faith? Again, this is a debate subreddit, the whole point of its existance is debate. If you don't like debate (that is, presenting your arguments properly, with sources) and have to be forced into compliance by other commenters calling you out on your bullshit, wtf are you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:57 PM
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or sometimes straight up gaslighting (ex: “personality matters more than looks”) That's not what gaslighting means. Gaslighting isn't just a synonym for "lying". Gaslighting is a form of abuse where someone systematically manipulates another person to make them doubt their perception of reality and question their own mental health (e.g. trying to convince the other person that they are crazy).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:54 PM
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This is a debate subreddit, dumbass. Make your point properly. Telling others to google things is arguing in bad faith and should get you banned from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:36 PM
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Women want to be chosen by a man who has high standards and meets a woman who fits them. This is a perfect illustration of the delusion of women like you. By definition not everyone will meet "high standards", only a small fraction of people will, 100% of women cannot all be in the top 10% of women. For the vast majority of women, you're simply not good enough to meet "high standards", no matter how much you wish for it. If you want to be considered exceptional by a man but you're not actually e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:14 PM
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The only men who are obsessed with women taking their resources are men without resources Nobody is "obsessed" with anything. I'm talking about extraction of resources because you made it clear in this conversation that your sole objective for relationships is extraction of resources. Outside of this conversation I don't give a shit, I live my own life and enjoy my own relationship. If you want your partner to think of you as a generous person Why the fuck would any man care about this? If anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:30 PM
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yes. because if system could be exploited it will be. And why are the systems in scandinavia not being exploited then? Why are scandinavian countries still very productive, rich developed countries? And if not by your people...then as we see in all those countries - by migrants. Even if that were happening to any significant degree, which it isn't, why wouldn't your belief then be to have those systems plus a more strict immigration policy, rather than scrapping the systems? That's what's happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:14 PM
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And by "life being better" you mean extracting money and advantages out of the other person? How isn't that blatant selfishness? You're "making your life better" by making the other person's life worse. Relationships make people's lives mutually better via companionship, intimacy, shared joy, emotional support, etc. You don't need literal extraction of resources from others for a relationship to be worth it. I'm so sorry for your husband, by the way. I hope he finds a way out of this situation a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:02 PM
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I'm a centrist if you must know. Far enough. Most women identify as left, that's why I asked. However there shouldn't be systems that you can just live off, simply because i think we should make it uncomfortable to be parasite. Do you actually think this is a issue worth worrying about? Countries with generous welfare state systems, like the social democracies of europe/scandinavia, make it possible for their people to be "parasites", and yet they aren't, and those countries are still incredibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:54 PM
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If a woman is nurturing to orphans but ignores your own children it probably would have the same effect Not the same thing. Parents are legally responsible for their children and neglecting your children is a crime. Men are not legally responsible for the women they date, and neither are women vulnerable people who need to be taken care of like children are. Suggesting a man needs to take care of a woman financially to be considered "good" is lunacy. In the context of a relationship you need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:17 PM
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We all know that "generous" is just a female-coded word for "will spend a lot of money on me". It has nothing to do with actual generosity, like donating to people in need. If a man is very generous with charities but asks you to split the bill on your date, you will promptly discard him as "trash" and go back to the internet to say that there are no good men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:40 PM
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Do you also extend this kind of thinking to economics? Do you think that it's each person's responsibility to make enough money to survive, regardless of circumstances, and that it's not your problem if someone can't do that so you don't want to pay into welfare systems to support them? Are you a classic liberalism right winger? I'm asking because you don't seem to have the worldview of a left wing person. I very much believe the world will be better if we make the collective effort to create sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:01 PM
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You got the answer to this so it’s time to move on and stop trying to force others to agree with you. This is a debate subreddit LMAO Trying to make others agree with you is the entire fucking point of this sub existing. Why are you here if you're not interested in debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:53 PM
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Feminine energy This is not a thing. Completely made up concept. Also, a million other things are also soothing, so it doesn't answer his question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:18 PM
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I thought it would be more obvious, but that comment was a joke lol Did you not feel one-upped?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:40 PM
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I know what you mean. I used to talk to a girl who was like that too, but even worse. I also thought she wanted to relate to me and make me feel better, but I realized she was also trying to be in a victim position. Then she beat me, broke my videogames, and cheated on me. You had it easy in comparison. So now I'm always roll my eyes at people who one-up others, they are always assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:38 PM
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Maybe try to empathize, create a scenario when women treat you like that, and try to feel something about it. Why would I empathize with that? I empathize with people who are victims of circumstances beyond their control (like for example tall women who get broadly rejected for being tall/unfeminine). But women being used for sex because they keep chasing after attractive men out of their league is an entirely self-inflicted problem. Ironically when you're only mentioning how men being used for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:49 PM
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What's wrong with "pump and dump"? It's just a shorthand for very common occurrence: woman pines for a man out of her league who has better options then her, has sex with him hoping for it to turn into a relationship, and gets discarded after sex because the man has better options. Story as old as time. The term exists to describe that situation. It just means discarded for not being good enough. What term should we use instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:51 PM
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Which is why you will pay the proper price and half your shit will be taken away in divorce. I wouldn't marry someone who doesn't have sex with me in the first place, so I don't see how this is relevant. I also don't want a "traditional" relationship/marriage, so the principle of a woman taking half of my stuff because she was staying at home while I was providing for the family doesn't apply to begin with, I wouldn't marry under those terms. Sounds fair if your entire plan is to waste womens ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:51 PM
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That is a tiny minority of men. The vast overwhelming majority of men are not attractive enough to benefit from that effect. Some exceptions will always exist, some men will have women pining for them no matter how awful they are due to being exceptionally attractive. But that's irrelevant to the majority of men. And as I said, the fact that incel/mgtow/redpill communities are almost entirely conservative men shows that conservative men are already suffering and being excluded due to their belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:45 PM
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As a woman you're free to do that if you want, but it's not a viable strategy if you want to actually find a good partner. First, because if you want to withhold sex, there's tons of women out there that won't. And second, because selecting for people who are okay with waiting for sex has no correlation with them being a good partner. Plenty of good men will refuse to wait for sex and will look elsewhere, and plenty of bad men will wait for sex and still abuse/discard you after they get it. Unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:03 PM
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I don't see how this can even be a debate. OP is 100% right, if you don't have a conversation about being exclusive then you are not exclusive. Being single and free to have sex with whoever you want is the default, if you want to be in any state other than that you have to talk about it and agree to it. And no, the "vibes" do not change that. It doesn't matter if you went out for X months, or you met their friends/family, or you made plans together, or you "felt it was going so well". If it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:47 PM
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OP, you're getting a lot of responses from salty conservative men, and some from a few salty conservative women too. Some of it is hilarious, like the people trying to pretend that all right-wing men are "chads" and all left-wing men are "soyboy" caricatures. But you are absolutely correct. Conservatives have deplorable views and women (at least left-wing women, which is the large majority of them) should absolutely not get involved with them. The good news is, this is largely already happening.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:29 PM
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It is a skill issue. Fuck off. Being born extraverted is not a "skill", and neither is being born an introvert a "failure" or "lack of skill". Absolutely disgusting thing to say. Male extros in aggregate are more attractive to women for casual sex than male intros. "Source: my ass." Who elected you the spokesperson of all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:32 AM
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I’m not asking them to change anything. In the comment you linked to on your post you literally called not being an extrovert a "skill issue". You are literally right there talking as if extroversion were a "skill" and introversion a lack of this "skill". How is this not asking them to change their personalities, genius? he person with the more attractive personality Again, talking as if extroversion is fundamentally "more attractive". Absolute nonsense, extroversion is only more attractive to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:35 AM
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Men literally play the long game just to have some coochie. Men only do that to women who they see as beneath them in attractiveness and they have better options than. If a man sees you as his equal in attractiveness, he will actually have incentive to value you and avoid risking losing you. Women only experience this "he waited months, then left after he got sex" thing because a lot of them pursue men above their league. That's what men who are above your league will do to you, they take the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:52 PM
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Well, the remaining 80 women get "nothing" either. In this example, the remaining 80 women (and the remaining 20 men) don't want casual sex, they're not part of the conversation. In this context, they get nothing because they want nothing, they don't participate to begin with. We're talking about people who want casual sex and actively try to get it. Every woman who wants it will get it, but only a fraction of the men who want it will get it. The ones who don't want it it will obviously not even…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:30 PM
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If you're a 24/25 year old woman who has never had a relationship despite trying, there are only two possibilities. You are either extremely unattractive (which I doubt, 99% of people aren't), or you have delusional standards (much more likely). The fact that you think being on your late 20's is a "death sentence" for dating further confirms that this is just a case of delusion on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:41 PM
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My 10-year-old niece weights 31 kg.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:25 PM
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I understand the sentiment, and you wouldn't be wrong if not for the fact that, for casual sex specifically (not relationships), there's a huge gender imbalance. Let's put it this way, imagine a club where there are 100 single men and 100 single women, 80 of those men want casual sex, but only 20 of those women are open to casual sex. There are not enough willing women for every willing man, so in this example it's likely even the least attractive women of the group can find a casual sex partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:28 PM
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You're a misogynist Disagree. What makes you think that? reveal who you really are to her face To whose face? WTF you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:00 AM
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If more women are choosing not to deal with men They are not. Again, maybe they are where you live. But globally they are not. Your local community is not a reflection of the entire planet. You're american, right? I know that this a concept that is difficult for americans to grasp. Lives and female autonomy are at risk Again, this is a thing in the US. Not a thing here in europe. It's more complicated in south america, because we're talking about poorer countries that still suffer the concequenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:59 PM
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But I'm willing to bet it's an extreme example. It is a somewhat extreme example of an ugly man, but it's also a real one. Both ugly men and ugly women are real human beings that actually exist in the real world, and deserve respect, we shouldn't be sweeping them under the rug and not even acknowledge their existance. Everyone has a point at which they consider attractiveness insufficient to date. That image is one man that the enormous overwhelming majority of women will consider insufficient. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:28 PM
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No looks isn't the next thing. Who the person is is the next thing. Are they someone who is intelligent, kind, has similar values, etc. This is absolutely incorrect. If a man looks like this, no amount of intelligence, kindness or value compatibility will make women want to date him. Relationships are not built on just personality, physical attraction is a huge fundamental component of them, and if there is no physical attraction a relationship won't exist to begin with. This notion that women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:19 PM
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The 10-point scale is useless. There's nothing useless about it, it's just an allegory that serves as shorthand. Instead of typing "average", "slightly below average", "below average", "unnatractive" every time, I can type 5/10, 4/10, 3/10, 2/10 respectively. The normal distribution of human attractiveness is something that objectively exists. My point is that it's not the absolute first thing to come into play. A woman must first be interested in pursuing romance. Ok, sure. This doesn't disprov…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:40 PM
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Reminder: looks aren't the most important. I disagree with this, I think looks are very important and the absolute first thing people will judge you on. But the bar is lower than most people think, especially the doomer men here. For example, say a woman would date a 4/10 or higher (i.e. she will date someone slightly below average, but not a lot below average). If you're 4/10 or 5/10, you made the cut-off, and then all the other things you listed start to matter and could work in his favour. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:25 PM
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Me. I would feel weird paying. Why would I want to be with someone for whom my time and company isn't enough? What's the point of dating someone who doesn't like me unless money is involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:02 PM
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Same, I'm a 34 year old (who, unlike your flair, am an average looking guy who's nowhere close to being a "chad") and I never paid for someone else on dates in my life. Didn't stop me from having 3 LTRs, a few other shorter relationships, and a few more casual flings throughout my life. Not "chad" levels of action, but I'm pretty satisfied with what I got, and never had to foot the bill alone. That being said, I'm not american. Dating culture in the US sounds miserable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:46 PM
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What you describe is not love. You don't get to declare what other people feel is or isn't. Again, that is exceptionally arrogant and stupid of you. Attraction often has little to do with love Without attraction, people will not be open to spend time together and develop love. Again, explained in detail in my previous comment, and you failed to comprehend it. Go back and read it again. When you love someone they are attractive to you, regardless of what they look like. What you are describing is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:03 AM
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OP, I think you are largely right on what you wrote, with the addendum that you are describing one particular type of man (the selfish immature traditional conservative). I even agree that this type of men deserves the loneliness that they face. The problem is that not every man who is lonely is that kind of man. To give you an anecdotal example, I have a friend who lives in the US who has struggled with loneliness, isolation and depression for years now. He had a girlfriend in uni, but got chea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:51 AM
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Except love isn't something that just happens suddenly out of nowhere. Love has to grow over time, and it has to be mutual. In other for love to exist, there needs to be attraction between two people first, and then those people need to spend time together. And people don't give their time to just about anyone who wants it. You're only gonna give your time to some you already felt attracted/open to. If a woman says "I don't date men under 6 feet", then she doesn't allow herself the time to fall …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:19 PM
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Women are not chasing "Chad" to win him over. This made up fiction of the manosphere needs to die. "Chasing chad" is just allegory for having "high standards". And as you can see in this very subreddit, many women will themselves proudly proclaim to have "high standards". Of course, not every woman is like this. But, particularly in the US, a lot of them got roped into this "high standards" culture. Only this culture incentivizes a lot of women to pursue the very small amount of men who can meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:00 AM
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1 in 6 boys were found to have a postive opinion on Tate. So yeah, women are insulted by the manosphere and they have a pretty big audience. I thought you were being personally insulted by someone here. But you're right, the manosphere types are assholes who insult women. I also feel insulted by FDS/4B types who broadly insult men. And it's okay to debate that of course, but don't let it consume your mental state and cause you distress. It's just assholes on the internet, and there's little we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:01 PM
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Who the fuck would be silent while theyre being insulted? Thats a doormat. Paying assholes no mind is a stupid idea when theyre falsely accusing you of things due to their own problems. Are you being insulted? I responded to your post with no previous context. If you're responding to insults that's fair, but that context wasn't given here. Did you ask for a hookup? I invited her over to my apartment, she said yes. To me both the hookup and the possibility of a relationship were implied in that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:19 PM
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When they bitch about feeling unloved, yes, Sure, but I think you're falling for a bit of goomba fallacy here. The men who bitch online about feeling unloved aren't the same men that are going around having casual sex, those are two different groups of people. You havent seen guys here who bitch about women making them wait for sex and not other guys? When you ask them if they made it clear they wanted a hookup, they said no. So they dont even want to admit it. I have, I fact I'm one of them. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:42 PM
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Men who don't want relationships don't put effort into relationships Well, duh. You speak as if not liking/wanting relationships is a flaw of character. But men who don't like/want relationships don't see it as a flaw of character. They do what you describe in your post because that's exactly what they want, they want sex and no relationship. If you go up to them and say "that means you don't actually like relationships!" like it's some kind of gotcha, they are just going to agree with you. Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:40 PM
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Maybe where you live. None of what you said is true anywhere that I've lived (south america and europe). Except for the young women with female roommates, which has always been a thing, nothing changed in that regard. What you said sounds like american gender wars, coupled with some good old US defaultism. Dating in other places is not anywhere near as vitriolitic as it is for you in the US. Women and men here don't hate each other like you described. I and most of my friends (both the europeans…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:17 PM
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People form relationships based on compatibility and chemistry. That's a huge naivety on your part. Men absolutely see dating as a matter of "superiority", "league", and having options. Why do you think it's such a common complaint in woman circles that they get used for sex and then dumped? That's because they are chasing men above their "league", and those men will take the oportunity to get easy sex and then move on, because they have other/better options and don't need to commit to her. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:12 AM
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No its men that should be held accountable for unlawful behavior THEY COMMIT. They are. That's why we have a justice system. Doesn't negate the fact that some women deliberately pick those men to be in a relationship with, which is negligence on their part. becuase YOU have never taken accountability for yourself ????? I was never abusive, violent, or commited any crimes towards any woman. I have nothing I need to take accountability for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:27 PM
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So why should women be blamed for men engaging in poor behavior Women are the ones who choose to be with abusive/violent men. Other men are not responsible for the behavior of the abusive/violent man, nor for the woman's choice to stay with him. Men cannot engage in poor behavior in relationships if women don't 1) choose to enter a relationship with that man, and 2) choose to continue in a relationship with that man after being disrespected/abused for the first time. It's women who have to take …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:37 PM
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Yeah, exactly my point. Do you see misogynistic communities like red pill/mgtow/etc and "giggle and keep scrolling" like the commenter above said, with zero worry? No? That's how men feel about the hateful FDS/4B/"no good men" stuff too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:15 PM
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How about men take ACCOUNTABILITY for criminal and abusive behavior WTF are you suggesting here? That innocent men should be accountable for the crimes of other men that have nothing to do with them? What kind of nonsense argument is this? Nobody has to take accountability for the crimes of others. A criminal will be arrested, tried and jailed, that's the accountability that is relevant here. Men (or women) who don't commit crimes don't need to take accountability for the crimes of others, that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:59 PM
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If I see an unattractive person saying they only want to date supermodels, I giggle and keep scrolling. The problem is those high-standards women don't frame it as "I only want to date supermodels", they frame it as "men are all trash"/"there are no good men". So obviously men take issue with that. If instead of seeing an unattractive man go "I only want to date supermodels", you saw multiple unnatractive men congragate on a community to all discuss how only young, pretty, thin/fit women with bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:51 PM
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You're missing u/Poorbatman471's point because of the "1%" hyperbole. The only reason you were "treated like an object to be used" by the people who you were pursuing was that those people were above your league and had better options than you. That's why they can afford to use you for sex and then discard you, they don't need to value you because they have better options. Only men who are in the same league as you (i.e. roughly as attractive to women as you are attractive to men) have an incent…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:34 PM
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and my answer is because that someone else would have more of what you value But it's just as easy to find those other things I value in other people who also do want to sleep with me. If my choices are "someone kind, pleasant and compatible who wants to make me wait for sex" vs "someone kind, pleasant and compatible who wants to have sex with me right away", it's obvious I'm gonna go with the second one. i'm poly, so i have an advantage here, i'll find sex elsewhere if that would be the case Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:40 PM
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Is there nothing else you value? Of course I value other things too, like kindness, a pleasant personality, compatible life goals, and so on. But this conversation was about sex. I would date a man who doesn't fuck me at all under certain circumstances. Well, personally, a relationship without physical intimacy (of which sex is a huge part of) makes no sense to me. I appreaciate all the other aspects of a relationship, like the companionship, emotional support, quality time together and so on. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:08 PM
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I wouldn't say I "fuck around", I'm in my 30s with somewhere in the 10 to 15 vicinity for my N-count. That averages to around 1 person per every 1.5 years that I've been dating/sexually active. Pretty standard where I live. That's a few relatioships that worked out and lasted a while, a few more than didn't work out and ended more quickly, and a few ONS here and there. Of course, I'm not a hypocrite, I think women my age having counts similar to or even a bit higher than mine is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:13 PM
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What exactly sounds bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:59 PM
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I wasn't offering to date you. I'm responding to the point you made. You completely ignored mine. Why should I entertain women who want to wait for sex, when I (even as an average dude) can just as easily find women who don't want to wait? Why do you think I should accept waiting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:41 PM
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Let me put it this way. I'm very far from being a "chad", I'm an average-looking, very thin/skinny, and slightly below average height for men where I live (which, to be fair, is nowhere near as much a problem as it is in the US, as women here aren't obsessed with height like american women are). I have faced a LOT of rejection over the years. And even within that context, I still have always managed to find women who would sleep with me quickly. Every single woman I ever dated slept with me long…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:54 PM
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