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| 3 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketI also think the child will suffer and the woman should abort, but I can't force her to do it. If she wants to have a child by herself, that's her prerogative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketNope. People may choose to have an abortion for this reason, sure, but that is absolutely not why abortion is made legally available to women (where legal). The philosophical reason why a society makes abortion available is irrelevant. In practice, it absolutely will be used to prevent parenthood. As ai mentioned, adoption achieves this same result. Unless you make it so the man is able to unilaterally declare a child will be put up for adoption regardless of what the mother desires, that doesn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 03:42 AM |
| 5 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketIf the woman decides not to terminate the pregnancy, and the man simply opts out of support In that case it was her choice not to terminate the pregnancy. She chose not to terminate it knowing full well the man was opting out and she was going to do it alone. She doesn't get to complain afterwards. Certainly you aren’t suggesting that a man has the option to force a woman to terminate…right? Nobody is forcing anyone into anything. If the man opts out, it's entirely the woman's choice whether to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 02:25 AM |
| 3 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketThe purpose of abortion is not to prevent parenthood. One of the purposes of abortion is absolutely to prevent parenthood, and many women use abortion for that purpose all the time. It's lunacy to suggest otherwise. And that's a good thing for people to be able to prevent parenthood. Nobody wins when people are forced into parenthood against their will. You are expected to share the responsibility of raising any resulting children with women you sleep with. Except that, wherever abortion is lega… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 02:20 AM |
| 5 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketThe child wins by not being born into a disfunctional family with a compromised future. Instead, the two would-be parents will go on to have children later, when they're stable and ready, and then the children will live good lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 02:01 AM |
| 5 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketPlease indicate where i said this. Right here, in the same comment (along with many other mentions of this before): I'm not terribly concerned for people who have unprotected sex and then don't want to be responsible for the consequences and try to unload all the consequences on half the couple that each willingly decided to have sex. As is typical of an american, even the ones who identify with the democratic party, you are unable to break free from the right-wing authoritarianism you've been i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketNot free and increasingly not available in many areas of the US. Sucks to be you. It's free and available everywhere else in the developed world and in half of the developing world too. The shithole that is the US has other issues to solve first, but that's irrelevant for the 96% of the world that does not live there. Don't nut unprotected in a woman who doesn't want an abortion if you don't want a kid seems like a no brainer but an awful lot of people choose otherwise and then are mad about it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 06:43 PM |
| 5 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketSo the man has no responsibility but the woman has to undergo a medical procedure she maybe does not want to do because he can wash his hand of it and she can't afford it? It's a simple procedure that is freely available, and infinitely preferable to the alternative that is 18 years dealing with an unwanted child. No, I don't think it is healthy to set up a system where the man can financially manipulate a woman he gets pregnant This is just outright ridiculous. I have no idea where you got the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 05:55 PM |
| 9 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketThe issue is that it dumps the economic burden either entirely on the woman or on taxpayers. No, it doesn't. Like I said, the man opts out during the period where abortion is allowed, so the woman can just go ahead and abort. She will only be left with the financial burden of raising a child if she intentionally chooses to have that child instead of aborting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 05:14 PM |
| 5 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketThose are implementation details that can be sorted out. But you're right, some measure would be needed to ensure women inform men in a timely manner. It could be, for example, that if abortion is allowed until 12 weeks, then the woman must inform the man of the pregnancy at no later than 8 weeks, to ensure both the man and then the woman have enough time to make their decisions on whether to opt out/abort. Alternatively, it could be made that, once informed, the man has 4 weeks to opt out, rega… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 03:34 PM |
| 9 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketIf we allow men to make the choice to NOT parent, that also means that we allow them to make the choice TO parent. Yes, and? Why should men not have the choice to parent? Everyone's parenthood should be a choice. And at that point, womens bodies will effectively become an incubator. Complete non-sequitur. This is an illogical leap from the sentence you wrote before. Giving men the ability to opt out of parenthood does not make women "incubators". And unlike a man signing away his rights, a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketThis isn't just about the US either. Plenty of countries all over the world where abortion is legal and this discussion can already be had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 02:57 PM |
| 7 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketMaking bad faith responses on your own debate thread is against the sub rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 02:56 PM |
| 26 | Reproductive Risk Changes the Dating MarketThe entire premise of this post ChatGPT wrote for you is false. Nobody is claiming paper abortions are "equivalent" to a woman's pregnancy. It doesn't have to be, this has nothing whatsoever to do with equivalence. It's just a matter of fairness. Pregnancy happens to the woman's body, and she should have complete autonomy over what happen to her body, I'm 100% with you on that. But as a side effect to her right to bodily autonomy, it also gives her the ability, when she learns that she is pregna… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 12:30 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?I'll make sure to ask my girlfriend why she's with me even though this random nobody on the internet called me a selfish grouch. Or were you for some reason under the impression you were talking to an incel? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 06:48 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?was it meant to do only that? That was the part I care about. The rest is inconsequential to me and doesn't affect me in any way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 06:37 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?"Fine" outside of a whole lot of defamation involved in it. But yes, outside of a few cancellations of celebrities, the metoo movement completely failed in its attempt to make any actual, practical changes in the justice system, which was a great result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 06:32 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?and I think it's MORE worth solving the thing I mentioned What you think is irrelevant. No justice system will abandon the "innocent until proven guilty" framework and replace it with an unjust one just to appease the whims of women (or yours). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 06:28 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Yes. The way to fix one injustice is not to cause injustice in the opposite direction. If we make it so women can convict men without evidence, then the incidence of false accusations will skyrocket. Because I don't know if you noticed it, but women aren't all innocent little angels, evil women do exist. If you give evil women the means to be evil without repercussion, they will do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 06:11 PM |
| 3 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Neither common law systems nor civil law systems allow criminal convictions without conclusive evidence that meets a "beyond reasonable doubt" standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 05:27 PM |
| 3 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?so people try to fix that and you pull a hissy fit like some kinda baby turd? If people try to "fix" that in a way that opens me up to the possibility of suffering injustice (via false accusations), then yes, of course I will oppose it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 05:27 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Yes, if he did then it's not morally wrong to name him. Except that nobody knows whether he did it or the woman is lying. Which is why she needs to present conclusive evidence to show he did it. Without that evidence, she cannot prove that he did it, and then it's defamation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?you can sit in front of a judge. say what happend. and he can say "i believe you" lmao No, he absolutely cannot. Judges don't simply pick a side in he-said-she-said cases. If it's just a woman's testimony and nothing else against a man's testimony, the result will be no conviction 100% of the time. The reason the vast majority of rape/SA accusations end in no conviction is precisely because judges do not do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?As I expected, a response completely devoid of any substance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Wow, great argument bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 05:26 PM |
| 3 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Yes, the world. What about the world confuses you? Are you american? That would explain a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 04:50 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?by naming the abuser? that's morally wrong? By naming the abuser without evidence to back it up. Yes, that is morally wrong. If they do have the evidence, then by all means, name the man, report him to the authorities, and have him arrested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 04:47 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Yes, so? I'm a man, so I am primarily concerned with what affects me. If protecting innocent men from injustice hurts women, so be it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 04:46 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?That's right. Except that in a defamation lawsuit they have to prove that they aren't lying, and they need evidence for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 04:44 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?plenty of people wind up behind bars on the word of a couple other people and nothing more. "Source: my ass" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 04:43 PM |
| 3 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?giving women that recognition and a voice was more helpful than the times that it was misused, no? Absolutely not. The whole point of the justice system is "innocent until proven guilty" and "better to let the guilty go free than to condemn the innocent". Giving the power to women goes directly in the opposition to that. It's a bizarre distortion of the concept of justice. sure you can. not illegal at all. You can if you have evidence to support it. If you don't, it absolutely is illegal. defama… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 04:42 PM |
| 0 | It's fair to say that a woman who consistently chooses bad men just makes bad choices, and that they have a problem. In the same vein, if men consistently go for shitty women, you need to take responsibility for your choicesThe notion that women shouldn’t get as much sympathy because they have more options is stupid. Both men and women are trying to choose what they feel is the best option for themselves. This is a non sequitur. It doesn't change the fact that an average woman who got into an abusive relationship discarded many good potential partners in the process, an average man who got into an abusive relationship didn't. And you shouldn’t look at it as women having More options because if a woman doesn’t feel … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 03:29 PM |
| 0 | It's fair to say that a woman who consistently chooses bad men just makes bad choices, and that they have a problem. In the same vein, if men consistently go for shitty women, you need to take responsibility for your choicesYou're right on principle. Women who are abused/cheated on bear the responsibility of having chosen that partner, just like men who get abused/cheated on also bear the responsibility of having chosen that partner. But there is a huge difference in context that explains why women don't get anywhere near as much sympathy from men because of it. We live in a society where men are expected to pursue while women aren't. So we live in a context where average women have multiple men pursuing them, whil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:04 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Yes they are. Here is a thread with citations of exactly that: convictions based solely on a single witness’ testimony. The fact that links to nothing is the most hilarious thing you could have done. Rape itself is fundamentally almost always dependent on a single witness’s testimony Yes. And the fact that the vast majority of rape accusations lead to no charges and no convictions should tell you how much that single witness testimony is worth. Yet there are many rapists in prison. The only rapi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:38 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Testimony is literally evidence. It’s a form of evidence called “testimonial evidence”. You're trying to argue a worthless technicality. That's not what I mean when I say "evidence". Anything that is at any point present in court is technically called "evidence", regardless of whether it's useful, conclusive, inconclusive, invalid or thrown out. Your argument here is that "it's evidence because the court technically uses the term evidence for anything that is presented in court, even when it's u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:37 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Nobody is ever convicted on testimony alone. Testimony is worthless without other corroborating evidence, because it's trivially easy to lie on your testimony. Do you think courts are stupid? Do you think they didn't account for the fact that people can, and often do, simply lie? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:28 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?First: again, testimony is evidence. It's fucking hilarious that you make up something that is complete bullshit and attempt to use said complete bullshit as an argument multiple times lmao. You're literally not intelligent enough to participate in this conversation. You apparently default to assuming every victim’s words are always false evidence No, the victim's words are no evidence at all, because they can very easily be lies. ASgain, the justice system was not created by idiots. The justice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:25 PM |
| 0 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?And by doing that, they're potentially comitting defamation, and opening themselves to lawsuits and damages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:58 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Because it’s supposed to be innocent until proven guilty… Yes. "Innocent until proven guilty" and "believe the victim without evidence" are two completely incompatible statements, and you're defending the latter, not the former. yet you assume victims are guilty of a crime when they say they are victims Again, you cannot be this unintelligent. Saying victims need to present evidence is not saying they are guilty of a crime. Unless they name someone while having no evidence, in which case they li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:19 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Defamation is quite a bit more narrow than this. No, it isn't. In most places in the world, the onus on the claimant is to simply prove the statement was made, and then the defendant has the onus to prove there is no falsity. Hell, some countries consider it defamation even when the crime was real. In those countries, you can't go around accusing others of crimes ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 11:57 AM |
| 0 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?"He said she said" is just a different way of saying "no evidence". No evidence = no conviction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 11:52 AM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?You're right, that sucks. We need to invest resources in better forensics, better prepared police departments, safer channels for reporting, and incentivizing women to report quickly and collect as much evidence as they can. What we do NOT need is to throw basic justice principles out the window, and attempt to fix the problem by creating injustice in the opposite direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 04:40 AM |
| 0 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?I said we are talking about rights of real actual victims who really actually genuinely got fucking raped "Actual victims who really got raped" are indistinguishable from people who are making false accusations, unless they show evidence. and your response was to talk about protecting men from false accusations Of course it is, why wouldn't it be? It speaks volumes that you don't think victims of false accusations need to be protected and that men don't deserve the right to defend themselves in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:59 AM |
| 0 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?So you think all accusations are false, then? You cannot be this unintelligent. The discussion was about what you want real honest victims to do. Except is impossible to know if someone is a real honest victim without evidence. I want the real honest victim to present evidence before any convictioon occurs. The exact same standard that is held for any other crime. And your argument is that they are always lying and should shut the fuck yo. No, my argument is that they need evidence, like any oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:12 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Where's your credibility if you can't differentiate between what's criminal and what's civil? I am going to blow your mind, are you ready? Here it goes: What's civil and what's criminal varies per country! A false statement. Publication of that false statement. Fault. Damages. Where you live, maybe. This is grotesquely incorrect in the vast overwhelming majority of the world, including many US states. Fixed for you. One last time, being pedantic matters. This is the funniest part of your comment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:58 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?And you’re deflecting again from the entire premise in order to protect violent dangerous men from the obvious natural consequences of their own evil vile actions. No, I'm protecting innocent men from false accusations. Also innocent women from false accusations (against any crime), because they also benefit from the same legal principles of "innocent until proven guilty". If a victim knows 100% exactly who committed the crime, and where and when it happened We're not mind readers. Nobody can kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:27 PM |
| 6 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Pedantism. I know in the US it's technically not a "crime" in the legal sense, it's a "civil wrong". You're still commiting a morally wrong act that violates a law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:11 PM |
| 2 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?You know I really have to say the most amusing and thoroughly entertaining part of this reply is your condescension all up and down it while being blatantly repeatedly and thoroughly wrong about everything. Literally none of what I wrote is wrong. It's not necessary for me to make a report to the police to talk about my lived reality. Again, for the hundredth time, you can talk about your life as much as you want. But if you name someone while doing it, that's an accusation, and if you can't pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:09 PM |
| – | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Freedom of speech is wrong? Freedom of speech dooesn't mean what you think it means. It does not mean you can say whatever yoou want and never suffer any consequences. Even in the US, with its ridiculously permissive free speech laws, you still cannot say threats of violence to someone. You can't say you'll commit acts of terrorism. And you can't say someone else commited a crime that they didn't. Nowhere in the planet is unrestricted, absolute freedom of speech a thing. It is normal for people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:06 PM |
| 13 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?This post is incredibly ignorant in relation to actual laws. But talking about your own life and things that happened to you doesn't require legal due process. If person A rapes person B, person B can freely talk about this and say things like "when I was raped by person A" and it doesn't have to have due process for this person to merely talk about it. That couldn't be more wrong. That is exactly what the crime of defamation is about. You cannot simply go around telling people that Person A com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 05:25 PM |
| – | Can women truly love?Of course that's something an openly xenophobic maga person who was banned last week for telling a poster to "go back to his home country" would say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/26 06:23 PM |
| – | Which relationships have you preferred throughout your life: the men you developed feelings for via them being “popular”, or those who hanged out alone with you for sufficient time?I am autistic And xenophobic/racist! Don't forget that part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 10:29 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Every time I hear some chud refer to themselves as "alpha", I read it as "alpha" like in software, i.e. an early undeveloped version full of errors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 09:45 PM |
| – | Which relationships have you preferred throughout your life: the men you developed feelings for via them being “popular”, or those who hanged out alone with you for sufficient time?If you don't care about me, so surely you won't mind if I keep posting this reminder to people when I see a comment of yours around here, right? If I'm so insignificant, and you are proud of your opinions, I see no reason why you would be upset at me mentioning this to other readers. Also... yes i did, 2x now. No, you never linked me anything before today. You just linked me an unavailable comment from yesterday. Even if it were visible, a comment made yesterday still doesn't prove you weren't b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 09:40 PM |
| – | Which relationships have you preferred throughout your life: the men you developed feelings for via them being “popular”, or those who hanged out alone with you for sufficient time?Whatever comment you're trying to link to was moderated/removed. Also, linking to a thread from yesterday is not evidence that you weren't banned 7 days ago. Your banned comment was made last friday (feb 6), so you were banned until monday (feb 9). In those days I was specifically looking out for your comments, and there were none. You only returned to posting here on the last few days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 09:38 PM |
| – | Which relationships have you preferred throughout your life: the men you developed feelings for via them being “popular”, or those who hanged out alone with you for sufficient time?I linked you to comments from ever day you claim I was banned, you are lying You didn't link me jack squat, wtf are you on about? Also, you gonna address the last paragraph of my comment or what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 09:20 PM |
| – | Which relationships have you preferred throughout your life: the men you developed feelings for via them being “popular”, or those who hanged out alone with you for sufficient time?no I did not get banned Your comment was removed and you vanished from this sub for 3 days. that whole thread was nuked because someone threatened to hit me with a sledgehammer in the face If this were true, only the offending comment would have been removed, yours would have stayed up. Yours didn't stay up. Because yours was the offending one. witch hunting is against the rules lmao This is not what "witch hunting" means, dimwit. I'm adding valuable context about you to the things you say, whic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 09:08 PM |
| – | Which relationships have you preferred throughout your life: the men you developed feelings for via them being “popular”, or those who hanged out alone with you for sufficient time?A reminder to everyone here that this user I'm replying to is a xenophobic maga person who just got banned a few days ago for telling an immigrant who made a post here to "go back to your home country". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 06:31 AM |
| -2 | Should you seek infatuation when dating?Was it just a coincidence then that, once your comment got deleted by the mods, you haven't participated in this subreddit for 3 days? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 11:45 AM |
| -1 | Should you seek infatuation when dating?Aren't you the person who just got banned for being blatantly xenophobic towards an immigrant here, and telling them he should "go back to your home country"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 09:49 AM |
| 1 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Has anyone ever told you you are a terrible communicator? Every time I interact with your comments I end up having to ask you to clarify what you're saying. I'm baffled at how often you write things that I'm sure make sense inside your head, but mean jack squat to everyone else reading it. I just looked at the daily thread sorted by new, to see what people are talking about, and lo and behold. Try this exercise in empathy: When you write a comment, ask yourself "does someone who isn't me get eno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/26 02:38 PM |
| 1 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵What criteria counts for what? Attractiveness? Men did not decide the biological factors that determine attractiveness for either men or women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/26 02:01 PM |
| 1 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Your comment is unintelligible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/26 08:56 AM |
| 2 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Different situations. One is an average man who is upset because his options are all well below average, and he can't find an average woman like him. The other is an average woman who is upset because all her options are average like her, and she can't find a man well above average who likes her. One of those makes you picky and entitled, the other doesn't. Remind me again, which of the sexes is known for hypergamy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/26 01:12 AM |
| – | Men here present all men in a terrible light and then act surprised when women call them outThen you'll have to clarify what exactly you think presents them badly. Because that's exactly what "date within your league" means. If you chase a man who is out of your league, he will pick his best option, and it's very unlikely that you're gonna be that best option. He won't value a woman below his league and won't fear/care about losing her, which is why he can afford to use her for sex and discard her after. If women don't want to be used for sex and discarded (i.e. "pumped and dumped"), t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Men here present all men in a terrible light and then act surprised when women call them outSo basically if he has options there is no chance he will value you, that's what those men are saying. That it's all about options, and that is a defining part of their behavior. Yeah, a person who has options will only value their best option. This isn't a gendered issue, both men and women do this. The only difference being that women usually immediately discard their options that aren't the best, while men will first see if he can get easy sex out of it, and only then discard them. If for exa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 10:00 PM |
| 1 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Why do u assumr they are picking him cause he is hot? Maybe hr is very charming It's the same shit. "Charming" is just a different way to say "I'm physically attracted to him". The exact same action will be "charming" when done by an attractive man and "creepy/repulsive" when done by an unnatractive one. and the mean reason will be that he gives her lots of attention She gets lots of attention from less attractive men too, only she considers attention from those men undesirable. and she feels lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/26 11:10 PM |
| 2 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵It's not just about physical release/orgasms. Being physically with and touching someone whose body you find attractive feels good. Even better when on top of the attractive body they also have a pleasant personality, and you see them as a cool person. And the psychological satisfaction from having an attractive/cool person finding you attractive/cool as well and choosing to have sex with you. All of those things together (and especially the physical contact with an attractive body) make the phy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/26 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Men severely underestimate how bad they actually are.Well, you're right, both those examples are massive assholes. I sure wouldn't want to be around them. That being said, was that hyperbole, or have you actually never found even one single man who has not treated you this way? Do even the men you hook up with do this? Also, do you happen to live in a very conservative/traditionalist area? I can't imagine another reason why men behaving this way would be so widespread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 09:52 AM |
| 1 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Not necessarily immediately, but within the first couple dates, yes. No man desires to be in a relationship where he has to wait for sex. So that only ever happens when something convinces him to accept this undesirable circunstance. It could be because he is desperate and feels like he has no other options. Or that he is a manipulator who saw you as a potential victim, and will wait as long as it takes to get his chance to secure a victim. Or he is a conservative/traditionalist/religious man wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Men severely underestimate how bad they actually are.u/Lemon_gecko Just pinging you again because I'm really curious about what are these insults that you get from every man you know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 10:58 PM |
| 1 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.“Insulting you is not insulting you”. Circular reasoning “People pointing your flaws doesnt mean youre doesnt something wrong or that there’s a flaw in character.” Withholding sex is not a "flaw", the same way someone's appearance for example can be a flaw. It's not something intrinsic of you. Withholding sex is a conscious choice that you make, and you can stop making it any time you want. When you make that choice you become unattractive (just like many choices men make will make them unattrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 10:48 PM |
| 1 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Saying someone is a bad option for dating is not an insult. It's just an objective observation. Same as saying that guy who swiped on 2 million women, which you made a post about recently, is a bad option for dating. He objectively is, almost no women would be interested in getting involved with what he was offering. That doesn't mean he is doing something wrong, or has a flaw of character or anything like that, or that I'm making a moral judgement of him as a person. It's not an insult to say h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 10:05 PM |
| 1 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.they're gonna get a type of woman more than others What an incredibly judgemental statement. Outside of your prude community, plenty of women of all kinds enjoy sex, all over the world. A woman having sex early does not mean that she is "a type". Hell, my ex-girlfriend in uni was a "girl-next-door" type virgin when we started going out, and she had sex with me (her first time) a few dates in, before we were official. Is she a "slut" in your eyes? It's almost like.....women don't care that the ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:45 PM |
| 1 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.it’s common to be single for months to years, regardless of attractiveness That's common in my circles too. Except that being single doesn't mean being celibate. The people who stay single for months/years (that includes me) are still having casual sex in that time. Both men and women. If you mean people in your circles stay celibate for months/years, then yeah, that's absolutely not what mine is like. for something so minor/stupid That is absolutely not minor nor stupid. Sexual compatibility is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:35 PM |
| 0 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.And those are the women you guys want This is a leap of logic. Men just want sex (with someone they find attractive), not necessarily those women specifically. Those women only come up because they become examples of how some will literally pick a bad attractive man over a good average-looking man when given the choice. Which flies in the face of the common claim women make, that women care more about personality than about looks. People focus so much on those examples because they show this cla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:30 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.So, you treat your long term relationships like casual hookups? Yeah. Why wouldn't I? I treat my casual hookups with respect, enthusiasm, and try to make it as positive of an experience as it can be. Then my LTRs get exactly that, plus all the other perks of LTRs. I find it baffling that you would view this as something bad. You seek casual sex ABOVE everything even romance No, I seek them in equal measure (on the people I want relationships with, that is). If either of them are lacking, then th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:22 PM |
| 2 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Because he doesn’t think “no instant sex” =/= “no attraction” You're misunderstanding the issue. It's not "no early sex = no attraction". It's "no early sex = this relationship will not be worth having", even if there is attraction. Or they are willing to wait a few dates for sex for someone they are really genuienly interested in I am willing to wait. It doesn't have to be on the first date. I can wait until the 3rd, give or take. they actually enjoy the woman’s company conversations I already … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:16 PM |
| 3 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Then he will keep you as a friend, and date someone else who will give him sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:10 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.She gets big numbers Why? Is she sleeping with 100 men and none of those 100 became a relationship? Something is terribly wrong with her then. This is just fantasy. I'm not saying she should make no effort whatsoever to find a person who wants a relationship, and sleep with every guy on the street that wants it. But a woman who is realistic with her expectations will not take that long to find a guy that values her and wants to keep her, even if she gets played once or twice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:10 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Of all the men I know, very few (one to be exact) of them have such an amount of relationship options that they are not willing to wait a few dates for a person they are really interested in. You don't need to have an overwhelming amount of options for what I said to be true. Even two is enough. Or just one, but also knowing from experience that it wouldn't take that long to find another one. That's enough for a man to feel they do not need to entertain the monkey dance expectations. Demanding s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 08:03 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Yall just want casual sex. Correct. With some women, I want casual sex and nothing else. With others, I want casual sex, and then have that casual sex become a relationship. That's how I found all my LTRs. You want sex from a woman without having to put in effort. Why would I have to "put in effort"? I don't expect a woman I like to "put in effort" to have sex with me. If I find her attractive and she's a kind person, that's all I need for sex to happen. Just focus on hooking up and stop going a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:42 PM |
| 1 | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Or they're men who have other options and wait anyway. Wishful thinking. Why would a man who isn't desperate do that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:38 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Sure, if she does actually apply those standards to everyone, no exceptions, then yes, there's nothing wrong with it. It will still shrink your dating pool a lot, but there's no problems beyond that. The context of the post and the discussion above is the women who have one set of expectations for casual relationships, and a different much more strict set of expectations for romantic ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:36 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.But if there are remainders after filtering are they more likely to be fuckbois or good men. Neither. They are more likely to be desperate men who have no other options and feel forced to accept this treatment to have a chance at dating. Or even manipulators that saw you as a potentially good victim and so will wait however long it takes to have a chance to secure a victim. Normal well-adjusted people will just walk away and find someone else. Or if u have another suggestion to filter out fuckbo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:30 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.For someone who says "not my problem", you care alot about this topic and insult women for it. I don't "care a lot", I like debating, which is why I'm on the debate subreddit. And again, I didn't insult anyone. You're claiming they date men they dont find attractive if they dont fuck him immediately. 1) No, I did not claim that. I don't know what goes through a woman's head when she decides to act like this. It does not necessarily mean she is dating someone who she finds unattractive. What I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:18 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Casual sex ONLY takes physical attraction Romantic dating takes physical attraction plus romance plus chemistry plus shared interests and an emotional connection Casual sex only needs proof of attraction Romantic relationships need proof of physical attraction and proof of romantic feelings and emotional connections The way you describe it, to a man, makes casual sex sound like a way, way better deal than being in a relationship with you. Women wanting a romantic relationship WANTS the man to sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:09 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Delaying sex filters out everyone, both the fuckbois and the good men alike. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:00 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.and contrary to what some men here claim, delaying sex usually filters out the men that are not actually interested in the person and are only looking for a hookup Delaying sex filters out every man who has options, both the good and the bad ones. You're not accurately filtering out men who only want sex, you're just drastically shrinking your dating pool to desperate men who don't have options. Delaying sex will also make her observe his behavior longer to look for red flags. Except that the me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 07:00 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.You vet them for certain qualities before doing things that get you attached to them, like sex. I can see why you would think that, but I (as well as any man who isn't desperate) have no incentive to accept this. Then why are you insulting them? Sounds like you do see it as your problem. I didn't insult them. What is it exactly in my comment that you understood as "insulting"? I don't understand where you got this from. Most people don't fuck on the first date. In fact, most dont even fuck by da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 06:49 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.They should then withold intimacy from you, for the same reasoning u just made. If they do, I'll discard her. That wouldn't be an effective way of dating me. As u have no sympathy for women choosing wrong Choosing wrong means seeing a man has undesirable characteristics (e.g. conservative, traditionalist, nascissist, arrogant, aggressive, etc.) and still picking him because he's hot. Choosing wrong is not the same as having sex early. If her father was an asshole, she will probably choose an ass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 06:34 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.Yes it does, these guys will be pushy for sex and show a lack of interest in her without sex. They can also show they're not good people. That means men who aren't desperate will not date you to begin with, and men who are desperate will be discarded by you when they get pushy. A fantastic recipe to end up alone. If that's what you want, and you're one of those "I'm fine being single forever" women, then by all means. But for a woman that is actively interested in dating/finding a relationship, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 06:25 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.That is exactly my thought process. If one of the very first things a woman does while dating is put up barriers for sex, that does not bode well for the future of that relationship. It is so much easier to just go look for someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 06:15 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.The issue isn't whether she is attracted to me or not (though obviously I want her to be attracted to me), it's that I would feel insulted regardless. I'm already not interested in a relationship that starts that way and requires "long investment" to get to sex, but knowing that some other dude got it without having to make that investment makes it even worse. I don't think it's a sound strategy in the long term. By delaying sex you filter out good men (because good men have other options and do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 06:15 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.You're still insulting them and implying they want men they're not attracted to. That's not what insulting means. Saying they are making themselves unattractive for relatioships is not insulting. As for being attracted to men, if a woman is only interested in men who are out of her league and have better options then her, she's setting herself up for failure. You're contradicting yourself, which is why I made this post. What is the contradiction? How would you know? If "physically interested in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 05:59 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.So you think a woman shouldn’t learn from her experiences? If "learning from her experiences" = will make me jump though hoops for sex, why would I want to be with her to begin with? She can do whatever she wants, but if I don't get sex by date 3 at most, I'm dropping her and finding someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 05:41 PM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.It’s so funny watching guys here and in the red pill blame victims of abuse for not choosing better and how a lot of single moms didn’t choose better. Rightfully so. The majority of those women had a pool of men interested in them to choose from. In that pool, there were men who were not abusive, interested in long term, and who wouldn't abandon her with a kid. But instead of those men, they picked the one that was the most attractive but also ended up being abusive/leaving her. So 1) she doesn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Men severely underestimate how bad they actually are.I've said that one of my criteria for choosing a man is that he doesn't insult me too much. A guy once reacted with, "Why can't you just choose someone who wouldn't insult you at all?" And the answer is, those men basically don't exist. They all do it. You need thick skin if you want to talk to a man; you have to be able to tolerate some insults and figure out whether he's doing it maliciously or just "being a man." You're gonna have to be more specific, you can't just make vague claims like thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 02:54 AM |
| 0 | For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process.Citation needed. Just observe reality. 95% of couples I know began like this. This might come as a surprise to you, but there aren't studies for literally every single observable thing in the universe, academics has a limited production capacity and more important things to worry about. If I make a claim like "most apples for sale in supermarkets are red", you don't need an academic study to accept that as reasonable if you ever experienced supermarkets yourself. There's no study that says "most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 12:26 PM |
| -2 | For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process.Hookup and then keep hookup until either a glorified fuck buddy or a real relationship. That exactly how the vast majority of people date, yes. You seem to be struggling with accepting that you are the minority. You also seem to be really upset that other people (especially men) can have sex without jumping through your hoops. For example? This one right here. And this one. And this one. And this one. And many others we can all see in your profile. That's not what I literally said, but go on. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 12:58 AM |
| 1 | For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process.Hookup and then keep hookup until either a glorified fuck buddy or a real relationship. That exactly how the vast majority of people date, yes. You seem to be struggling with accepting that you are the exception. You also seem to be really upset that other people (especially men) can have sex without jumping through your hoops. For example? This one right here. And this one. And this one. And this one. And many others we can all see in your profile. That's not what I literally said, but go on. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 12:52 AM |
| -2 | For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process.Exactly, hookup. And keep hooking up. No, not hookup. That's how all my LTRs started. Prove it, sir. Literally every post you make is arguing that sex is not important and that men have to be okay with not having sex while dating. I love being proven right. Best ego stroke of my life. I don't know how you managed to conjure the thought that you are being proven right. Your point was that "men can't claim they want a relationship in addition to sex, but at the same time despite the vetting proces… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 12:03 AM |
| -3 | For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process.I think guys here intentionally misrepresent the problem as. “women hate sex and men for wanting sex” because they don’t want to admit that they are the problem, I have a girlfriend. Had two relationships before, plus other shorter/casual things here and there. I'm not sexually frustrated. In what way am I the problem? For some reason men here think “Men do want relationships” should mean “We tolerated your bullshit and became your dance monkeys, now where’s pussy?!”. No. men genuinely do want r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.So? It's still sex. Why would I be upset at having sex with someone who sees me as "default acceptable"? I still have sex, and sex is good. I'll keep having sex with this woman as long as she wants to, and once she no longer wants to I'll go look for someone else to have sex with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 09:13 PM |
| 9 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.Would you still be so enthusiastic to be hookup material? It's fucking hilarious that you ask this like it's some kind of gotcha, only to learn that most men will answer "yes, why wouldn't I?" That's exactly what the point of being hookup material is, to be picked for sex. The guy in your scenario got picked for sex, so it worked and he's happy. If he never sees the woman again after having sex, he's still happy with the sex. Hell, in some cases he may find never seeing this woman again after se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultYou don't need to say it, all women have more or less the same preferences, just like all men have more or less the same preferences. The only difference is how strict people are with these preferences, but they generally find the same things attractive. That's a big part of the issue as to why you were incapable of finding good men for sex. You are too strict relative to how attractive you are, so you only pick men out of your league who have no incentive to treat you well, because to them you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultIf they want to be alone, that's not my problem. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not the one complaining on the internet that all the sex I had sucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultAnd yeah. for a lot of women it’s men that don’t fit those criteria. Delusional women, that is. We might be getting to the crux of the issue here. An average woman who chases a very attractive man that is out of her league is priming herself to be used for sex and discarded, with no regard for her pleasure. That's precisely the reason the other commenter above needs to self-reflect. If the only people who meet your "standards" are people who have better options than you, you're setting yourself … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultI literally never mentioned ugly men even once in my comments. Where the fuck did you get "ugly men" from? Are you suggesting that any man who isn't a model-looking, muscular, 6-foot-tall rich man is "ugly"? If so, you can drop the façade and wipe that "blue pill" flair of yours right off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultshould of You are 100%, without a doubt, american. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultMost men cum too fast Citation needed. You have not had sex with most men. If you have a source that shows that most men suffer from premature ejaculation, by all means it, let's see this source. and they will be selfish simply because they can in hookups The men you chose are selfish because they can. There's plenty of men who are not selfish in hookups. You just specifically picked the ones that are selfish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:34 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultYou don't need to. I now know you're american. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultI don't need to know your criteria. Me knowing it changes nothing. Whatever they are, that's what caused you to only hook up with bad men. The world isn't entirely bad men. If you consistently find bad men, it's not because all men are bad, it's because you specifically (inadvertently) seek out bad men. Now, statistically, chances are your criteria is exactly what I said, and you just don't want to admit it because it isn't a good look publicly, and/or you don't want to think of yourself as a pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultBecause rich men can spend money on you, genius. You may not care for it, but some women do, and that's why they do it. It baffles me that I'd need to explain this to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultNo, that is not what black pill means. Black pill means your fate was decided by genetics the moment you were born, and there's nothing you can do about it. That's not what I believe in, there's plenty you can do about it. I myself am far from a "chad" and I'm still pretty satisfied with my experience dating. Doesn't change the objective fact that attractive/tall/rich men receive the lion's share of attention (and sex) from women. That's just observing reality. I do have a few beliefs that overl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultWhat an incredibly dumb response. First of all, I want to know your nationality (where you were born and, more importantly, received your education), not where you live. Not every american lives in the US. Second, if I wanted to be creepy and stalk you or something like that, what good would it do me to ask of you live in one continental-sized country? Do you think that narrows down where you live in any way whatsoever to me? I would ask which city/neighborhood you live, not "do you live in this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:12 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultAm I? That's weird, my assumptions are based on what women themselves say on woman-centered forums like twoxchromosomes, female dating strategy, and so on. As well as observing what type of men has success in casual sex and dating apps. Enlighten me then. Explain to me how my understanding that tall, muscular, rich men with attractive faces are overwhelmingly chosen for casual sex is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultSure, that was speculation on my part, because that's what most people do. But regardless of which criteria you use, it lead to the same result. Whatever criteria you used made you discard every man who was a good selfless partner, and lead you to have exclusively bad selfish partners. There's no arguing around that fact. The world isn't made entirely of bad selfish men. The reason you ended with bad selfish partners was your own choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:21 AM |
| 0 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultAnswer the question, please. Are you american? It's suspicious how you are avoiding answering this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultA person either passes another person’s attractiveness rating or they don’t. Correct. The idea that someone needs to, for example, be over 6 feet tall to pass the threshold is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as it would be for men to say that a woman needs to have at least D cups to be attractive. Complete lunacy. Holding nonsense standards like these has nothing whatsoever to do with actual attractiveness. They are either attractive or ugly by that persons standards. Completely wrong. Who is att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultBeing tall, muscular, and with good facial features has correlation with being attractive. Irrelevant. The commenter above was talking about how she wants men that are not selfish and that are skilled at sex (not just attractive). Those things I listed have nothing whatsoever to do with that, the things she said she wanted. Woman want hook ups with attractive men. Yet here you women are complaining that the "attractive" men you hooked up with all sucked at sex. You are shooting yourselves in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultHow is it not unrelated? Being tall has zero correlation with being selfless or skilled at sex. Being muscular has zero correlation with being selfless or skilled at sex. Facial features have zero correlation with being selfless or skilled at sex. Being rich has zero correlation with being selfless or skilled at sex. If those are your criteria for who to have sex with, you are setting yourself up for failure, because they do not filter for what you say you want. because men don’t care about impr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultFor that type of thing one wants a hot guy that can eat pussy. Literally my point. Using selection criteria that are unrelated or detrimental to what you want. Can’t assess someone’s entire life history in 20 minutes to 30 minutes. Here's a crazy idea. This will blow your mind. Get ready: Talk for more than 20 to 30 minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultIt's not that she is intentionally seeking out men who are selfish/unskilled and specifically picking them. The issue is that many women might claim they want a "good/kind man", but the characteristics they use to select men either have nothing whatsoever to do with being good/kind (like height, facial features, pays for things for her) or are inversely correlated with being good/kind (arrogance, power, dark triad stuff, "masculine frame", etc). They claim they want good/kind men, but make no at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 11:50 PM |
| 0 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultStill a sample of the population. An extremely biased sample, influenced by your personal choices, with zero statistical significance. It's not like you took a random sampling of men from all over the globe to have sex with. Again, you cannot be this stupid. Are you american? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultYou have to be a special kind of brainlet to somehow think the small handful of dudes you personally hooked up with are representative of every man on the planet. Doesn't help that they put on an act of pretending to be nice 🤣 Again, those are the kind of men you choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultSex requires a lot of learnt skills tbh. Yeah, and by your own self admission you have been incapable of finding someone with these skills. So again, have some self-reflection to understand why you are consistently picking selfish, unskilled men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 01:14 PM |
| 0 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultThat's not the point of my comment. I'm not telling you you shouldn't have sex, I'm telling you the criteria you use to pick men to have sex with are leading you to specifically choose the ones who are selfish and bad at sex, and to discard the ones who are selfless and good at sex. So the answer is for you to self-reflect on why you have this behavior that sets yourself up for failure, instead of coming to the internet to claim that all men suck at sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 12:25 PM |
| -1 | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultHonestly having casual sex with men sucks. They are bad at it, or selfish and cum too fast. No, the men you pick are bad at it and selfish. There are tons of men all over the world who are considerate, selfless partners that care about your pleasure. It's you who are consistently discarding them and picking the bad/selfish ones instead. You need some self-reflection to understand why that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | The Redpill’s sex obsession at the expense of social competence leads to failure in men.Speak for yourself. All 3 LTRs I have had (including my current one) started with us having sex first, and the relationship only coming later. In fact, I wouldn't have considered the relationship to begin with if I hadn't had sex first. Plus all the other casual/short-term flings where obviously there was sex involved and a relationship never came to be. Women like and want sex too. This "no sex until relationship" nonsense is just terminally online behavior, not what normal people are like in r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 08:03 AM |
| 3 | Men need to have a certain amount of casual sex before their thirst and desire for it is satiated long term. This amount is unique to each man and he needs to be honest with himself about it. Until you've been there done that, you won't experience the true platonic human side of womenMost men who call women who have casual sex slurs and men who seek out casual sex are the same men. "Source: my ass." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 02:03 PM |
| -1 | Men need to have a certain amount of casual sex before their thirst and desire for it is satiated long term. This amount is unique to each man and he needs to be honest with himself about it. Until you've been there done that, you won't experience the true platonic human side of womenBecause you guys call them sluts or bring up body count stuff online. Goomba fallacy. This subreddit needs this image pinned at the top, because it's baffling how many of you here suffer from this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 12:20 AM |
| 2 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itNone of those things require censoring yourself. Also, nobody would look at those things as anything other than normal humor that everyone has. Women and feminine/gay men also tease friends, make jokes, and disagree with other people, none of those things have anything whatsoever to do with masculinity. but I think there is a scenario where a generally nice guy can say something or joke and it's immediately heavily judged in group spaces even though it wasnt that bad This is literally an extreme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/26 04:00 AM |
| 0 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itLike I said, it makes you look like a biased asshole. It only makes me look like that to conservatives. Why would I give a shit about what conservatives think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 04:04 PM |
| 0 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itSo, you know it's wrong but you do it anyway? Nothing wrong about it. And no I'm not conservative. I don't self identify that way anyway. If you didn't like what I wrote, I have some news for you. Someone who isn't conservative wouldn't bat an eye, and wouldn't be here arguing with me over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:55 PM |
| 1 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itWelcome to the world, buddy. This is how everyone who isn't a conservative feels about conservatives. Conservativism is an abhorrent worldview and everyone who adheres to is is a trash subhuman. Some people just aren't as open about it as I am. Hell, conservatives know this. They know their beliefs are seen as deplorable, they know that they need to hide them. That's why so many conservatives are afraid to tell their co-workers that they are conservative. That's why conservatives on dating apps … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:14 PM |
| 2 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itBeing typically masculine is being able to think for yourself. If you thought for yourself, you wouldn't be conservative to begin with. Conservativism has always and will always lead to worse societies with worse quality of life. Being conservative qualifies as that in an environment where everyone who isn't super liberally progressive is constantly being shouted down. No, it doesn't. Being stupid in a place where everyone disagrees with you doesn't preclude you from being stupid. If we remove y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 05:40 AM |
| 2 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting it"There we go" yourself. Didn't take long for what you really meant to come out. This has nothing to do with being "masculine". You're just upset that you're a conservative asshole, and people don't like conservative assholes. The reason people don't like you is not anything related to masculinity, it's your disgusting, deplorable conservative beliefs. Now, I don't know what gave you the ungodly stupid idea that conservativism is the same as masculinity. But you're conservative, so not being very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 05:23 AM |
| 0 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itNormal behavior also doesn't have to be censored. Are you gonna clarify what exactly you mean by "normal masculine behavior", or are you going to intentionally leave it vague like this, making it obvious to everyone reading that by "masculine behavior" you just mean "being a conservative piece of shit"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 05:16 AM |
| 4 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itWhy would you need to censor yourself? Really struggling to disprove the "behaving in a typically masculine way" = "behaving like a dickhead" allegation here. It very much just sounds like you want to be able to be a piece of shit, and for some ungodly reason that's what you call "being masculine". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:54 AM |
| 2 | If you’re a teenager or young adult into the “red pill” pipeline or “manosphere”, there’s a strong chance you’re going to end up really regretting itTry behaving in a typically masculine way in a book club You're gonna have to go ahead and define "typically masculine way" for us. Because they only way this sentence of yours makes any sense is if "behaving in a typically masculine way" = "behaving like a dickhead" in your head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:20 AM |
| 2 | Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simpsYour basis for that claim is one random idiot writing ragebait content 10 years ago? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Women’s Selective Traditionalism Fuels the Red PillI'm not addressing the second part of what you wrote. That's why I quoted the first paragraph specifically. The second part of what you wrote has nothing whatsoever to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the expectations about who pays, not about when or whether sex happens at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 09:40 PM |
| 7 | Women’s Selective Traditionalism Fuels the Red PillI never understood this whole “split the bill” debate. If you ask someone out, get the bill. It’s that simple. Everyone knows that this "the person who asks is the one who pays" bullshit is just a more roundabout way to say the same thing. This is only said by women who never ask men out to begin with, which has the same end result, she will never pay and the men will always have to pay. This is just something you say when you want men to pay for you, but you're afraid of being labeled as selfis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 09:32 PM |
| 2 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herThis is a complete non-sequitur. I never claimed that relationships are not conditional. I said that my relationship is not conditional on money/status specifically, in response to OP's claim that men have no option but to accept that they will have to spend money/status specifically if they want to be with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 07:54 PM |
| 4 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herYour anecdote is not a reflection of every woman in existance. Your friend's wife is a horrid person and your friend should dump her ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 07:40 PM |
| 5 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herPeople who post here complaining about how hard it is to attract and keep women seem to want to do that And your solution to those people is "impress your date by spending money on her, so maybe you have a chance at sex"? How is that any different from prostitution? If someone isn't satisfied with the idea of going to a prostitute, they won't be satisfied with the idea of impressing a date with money either, because to men it's the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 07:36 PM |
| 2 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herI don't understand what point you're trying to make with this, but there's a lot of men who are laid-off/unemployed and in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 07:13 PM |
| 6 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herFor whatever reason the free things you provide might not be enough or even wanted for the other person. That's my point. I know those people exist, but why would I ever want to be with someone like them? If the answer is "because you find her attractive and want to sleep with her", I can get a prostitute that is even more attractive, more convenient for me, and much cheaper. The implication of your post is that "as a man, you are trapped and will be forced to give in to high maintenance women i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 06:57 PM |
| 12 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herBecause one assumes you are seeking her because you think she will add to your life by providing sex or companionship Yes, I'm with my girlfriend because she adds to my life by providing sex and companionship. She's with me because I also add to her life by providing sex and companionship. Why would I want to be with someone for whom sex and companionship (and intimacy, emotional support, etc) is not enough? Wanting money/status out of a relationship is what is utterly bizarre. I am only ever go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 06:39 PM |
| 3 | Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simpsYou have no way of knowing that, you cannot make this claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 06:18 PM |
| 1 | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanWhoopsie, did you just find out you broke subreddit rules and had to revert what you did to avoid getting banned? https://preview.redd.it/y1g4ua8bn1bg1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=d45e11ebe2c7415456020b07a727b0f2276a9fa3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 02:18 AM |
| 6 | Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simpsAgain, that is not gaslighting. Gaslighting is an abuse method that one abusive person does to one victim. One group of people telling you one thing, then another group of people telling you something different is not gaslighting. You should also familiarize yourself with this concept: goomba fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 12:29 AM |
| – | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanFirst of all, pay attention to the usernames you're responding to. I'm not the guy you were arguing with, it's not me you have to send your sources too. Second, why the fuck are you here if you don't want to debate in good faith? Again, this is a debate subreddit, the whole point of its existance is debate. If you don't like debate (that is, presenting your arguments properly, with sources) and have to be forced into compliance by other commenters calling you out on your bullshit, wtf are you do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 11:57 PM |
| 10 | Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simpsor sometimes straight up gaslighting (ex: “personality matters more than looks”) That's not what gaslighting means. Gaslighting isn't just a synonym for "lying". Gaslighting is a form of abuse where someone systematically manipulates another person to make them doubt their perception of reality and question their own mental health (e.g. trying to convince the other person that they are crazy). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 08:54 PM |
| – | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanThis is a debate subreddit, dumbass. Make your point properly. Telling others to google things is arguing in bad faith and should get you banned from here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Why do men think there are so many good menComplete fucking bullshit. If I meet a woman who donates lots of money to charity, I will think of her as generous. She doesn't need to donate the money to me for me to recognize the generosity. Again, the problem here is you specifically. You are a horrible person who only views other people through the lens of extracting advantages from them. You don't care about "generosity", you care about using other people's money for your advantage. You are inherently a selfish, exploitative person, that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 05:20 PM |
| 15 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableWomen want to be chosen by a man who has high standards and meets a woman who fits them. This is a perfect illustration of the delusion of women like you. By definition not everyone will meet "high standards", only a small fraction of people will, 100% of women cannot all be in the top 10% of women. For the vast majority of women, you're simply not good enough to meet "high standards", no matter how much you wish for it. If you want to be considered exceptional by a man but you're not actually e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 05:14 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menThe only men who are obsessed with women taking their resources are men without resources Nobody is "obsessed" with anything. I'm talking about extraction of resources because you made it clear in this conversation that your sole objective for relationships is extraction of resources. Outside of this conversation I don't give a shit, I live my own life and enjoy my own relationship. If you want your partner to think of you as a generous person Why the fuck would any man care about this? If anyth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 05:30 PM |
| 2 | It's men's fault and responsibility for 'the loneliness epidemic'yes. because if system could be exploited it will be. And why are the systems in scandinavia not being exploited then? Why are scandinavian countries still very productive, rich developed countries? And if not by your people...then as we see in all those countries - by migrants. Even if that were happening to any significant degree, which it isn't, why wouldn't your belief then be to have those systems plus a more strict immigration policy, rather than scrapping the systems? That's what's happen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 05:14 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menAnd by "life being better" you mean extracting money and advantages out of the other person? How isn't that blatant selfishness? You're "making your life better" by making the other person's life worse. Relationships make people's lives mutually better via companionship, intimacy, shared joy, emotional support, etc. You don't need literal extraction of resources from others for a relationship to be worth it. I'm so sorry for your husband, by the way. I hope he finds a way out of this situation a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 05:02 PM |
| 2 | It's men's fault and responsibility for 'the loneliness epidemic'I'm a centrist if you must know. Far enough. Most women identify as left, that's why I asked. However there shouldn't be systems that you can just live off, simply because i think we should make it uncomfortable to be parasite. Do you actually think this is a issue worth worrying about? Countries with generous welfare state systems, like the social democracies of europe/scandinavia, make it possible for their people to be "parasites", and yet they aren't, and those countries are still incredibly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 04:54 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menIf a woman is nurturing to orphans but ignores your own children it probably would have the same effect Not the same thing. Parents are legally responsible for their children and neglecting your children is a crime. Men are not legally responsible for the women they date, and neither are women vulnerable people who need to be taken care of like children are. Suggesting a man needs to take care of a woman financially to be considered "good" is lunacy. In the context of a relationship you need to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 04:17 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menWe all know that "generous" is just a female-coded word for "will spend a lot of money on me". It has nothing to do with actual generosity, like donating to people in need. If a man is very generous with charities but asks you to split the bill on your date, you will promptly discard him as "trash" and go back to the internet to say that there are no good men anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:40 PM |
| 5 | It's men's fault and responsibility for 'the loneliness epidemic'Do you also extend this kind of thinking to economics? Do you think that it's each person's responsibility to make enough money to survive, regardless of circumstances, and that it's not your problem if someone can't do that so you don't want to pay into welfare systems to support them? Are you a classic liberalism right winger? I'm asking because you don't seem to have the worldview of a left wing person. I very much believe the world will be better if we make the collective effort to create sy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Some men predominately attract younger women without intending toYou got the answer to this so it’s time to move on and stop trying to force others to agree with you. This is a debate subreddit LMAO Trying to make others agree with you is the entire fucking point of this sub existing. Why are you here if you're not interested in debate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 03:53 PM |
| 0 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Feminine energy This is not a thing. Completely made up concept. Also, a million other things are also soothing, so it doesn't answer his question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/25 12:18 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵I thought it would be more obvious, but that comment was a joke lol Did you not feel one-upped? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 07:40 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵I know what you mean. I used to talk to a girl who was like that too, but even worse. I also thought she wanted to relate to me and make me feel better, but I realized she was also trying to be in a victim position. Then she beat me, broke my videogames, and cheated on me. You had it easy in comparison. So now I'm always roll my eyes at people who one-up others, they are always assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 06:38 PM |
| 8 | Men demand empathy from women, and at the same time they punish women for being empathetic.Maybe try to empathize, create a scenario when women treat you like that, and try to feel something about it. Why would I empathize with that? I empathize with people who are victims of circumstances beyond their control (like for example tall women who get broadly rejected for being tall/unfeminine). But women being used for sex because they keep chasing after attractive men out of their league is an entirely self-inflicted problem. Ironically when you're only mentioning how men being used for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 04:49 PM |
| 6 | Men demand empathy from women, and at the same time they punish women for being empathetic.What's wrong with "pump and dump"? It's just a shorthand for very common occurrence: woman pines for a man out of her league who has better options then her, has sex with him hoping for it to turn into a relationship, and gets discarded after sex because the man has better options. Story as old as time. The term exists to describe that situation. It just means discarded for not being good enough. What term should we use instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want.Which is why you will pay the proper price and half your shit will be taken away in divorce. I wouldn't marry someone who doesn't have sex with me in the first place, so I don't see how this is relevant. I also don't want a "traditional" relationship/marriage, so the principle of a woman taking half of my stuff because she was staying at home while I was providing for the family doesn't apply to begin with, I wouldn't marry under those terms. Sounds fair if your entire plan is to waste womens ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 08:51 PM |
| 3 | Women should not date, sleep with, or in any way sexually validate men who are conservative/right-wingThat is a tiny minority of men. The vast overwhelming majority of men are not attractive enough to benefit from that effect. Some exceptions will always exist, some men will have women pining for them no matter how awful they are due to being exceptionally attractive. But that's irrelevant to the majority of men. And as I said, the fact that incel/mgtow/redpill communities are almost entirely conservative men shows that conservative men are already suffering and being excluded due to their belie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want.As a woman you're free to do that if you want, but it's not a viable strategy if you want to actually find a good partner. First, because if you want to withhold sex, there's tons of women out there that won't. And second, because selecting for people who are okay with waiting for sex has no correlation with them being a good partner. Plenty of good men will refuse to wait for sex and will look elsewhere, and plenty of bad men will wait for sex and still abuse/discard you after they get it. Unle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 03:03 PM |
| 4 | If you want exclusivity with a person, you should be willing to communicate that.I don't see how this can even be a debate. OP is 100% right, if you don't have a conversation about being exclusive then you are not exclusive. Being single and free to have sex with whoever you want is the default, if you want to be in any state other than that you have to talk about it and agree to it. And no, the "vibes" do not change that. It doesn't matter if you went out for X months, or you met their friends/family, or you made plans together, or you "felt it was going so well". If it was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Women should not date, sleep with, or in any way sexually validate men who are conservative/right-wingOP, you're getting a lot of responses from salty conservative men, and some from a few salty conservative women too. Some of it is hilarious, like the people trying to pretend that all right-wing men are "chads" and all left-wing men are "soyboy" caricatures. But you are absolutely correct. Conservatives have deplorable views and women (at least left-wing women, which is the large majority of them) should absolutely not get involved with them. The good news is, this is largely already happening.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 02:29 PM |
| – | Q4M: Between two identical looking men, who’s going to have the most casual sex: the intro or the extro?It is a skill issue. Fuck off. Being born extraverted is not a "skill", and neither is being born an introvert a "failure" or "lack of skill". Absolutely disgusting thing to say. Male extros in aggregate are more attractive to women for casual sex than male intros. "Source: my ass." Who elected you the spokesperson of all women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 06:32 AM |
| 10 | Q4M: Between two identical looking men, who’s going to have the most casual sex: the intro or the extro?I’m not asking them to change anything. In the comment you linked to on your post you literally called not being an extrovert a "skill issue". You are literally right there talking as if extroversion were a "skill" and introversion a lack of this "skill". How is this not asking them to change their personalities, genius? he person with the more attractive personality Again, talking as if extroversion is fundamentally "more attractive". Absolute nonsense, extroversion is only more attractive to o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Men who ask out a female friend 9 out of 10 times naturally developed feelings for her and didn’t put her in the “fuck zone”Men do the same thing to women who are 10x more attractive then you or equally. What you personally consider "attractive" is irrelevant. What matters is whether the man has options. If the man has sex with you and discards you, it's because he has options (specifically, options better than you). And if he has options, your opinion on how attractive he is isn't very well aligned with reality. Dating, marrying, even breathing next to you males is pointless. Sounds like you are fine with the idea o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/25 12:44 AM |
| – | Men who ask out a female friend 9 out of 10 times naturally developed feelings for her and didn’t put her in the “fuck zone”Men literally play the long game just to have some coochie. Men only do that to women who they see as beneath them in attractiveness and they have better options than. If a man sees you as his equal in attractiveness, he will actually have incentive to value you and avoid risking losing you. Women only experience this "he waited months, then left after he got sex" thing because a lot of them pursue men above their league. That's what men who are above your league will do to you, they take the op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Why do women advice men that if they want a great sex life, they should marry a promiscuous woman? Why does a man need to MARRY a promiscuous woman to benefit from her sexual experience and high libido?Well, the remaining 80 women get "nothing" either. In this example, the remaining 80 women (and the remaining 20 men) don't want casual sex, they're not part of the conversation. In this context, they get nothing because they want nothing, they don't participate to begin with. We're talking about people who want casual sex and actively try to get it. Every woman who wants it will get it, but only a fraction of the men who want it will get it. The ones who don't want it it will obviously not even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 09:30 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵If you're a 24/25 year old woman who has never had a relationship despite trying, there are only two possibilities. You are either extremely unattractive (which I doubt, 99% of people aren't), or you have delusional standards (much more likely). The fact that you think being on your late 20's is a "death sentence" for dating further confirms that this is just a case of delusion on your part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 08:41 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵My 10-year-old niece weights 31 kg. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 08:25 PM |
| 0 | Why do women advice men that if they want a great sex life, they should marry a promiscuous woman? Why does a man need to MARRY a promiscuous woman to benefit from her sexual experience and high libido?I understand the sentiment, and you wouldn't be wrong if not for the fact that, for casual sex specifically (not relationships), there's a huge gender imbalance. Let's put it this way, imagine a club where there are 100 single men and 100 single women, 80 of those men want casual sex, but only 20 of those women are open to casual sex. There are not enough willing women for every willing man, so in this example it's likely even the least attractive women of the group can find a casual sex partner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.You just pulled some bullshit facts out of your ass with zero evidence to back it up. Nothing in your comments has been "logical". You're just a nobody on the internet make absurd claims without evidence. Until there's evidence, what you say will be promptly dismissed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.Then your whole comment is just complete delusion, what you described is not happening anywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.You're a misogynist Disagree. What makes you think that? reveal who you really are to her face To whose face? WTF you even talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.If more women are choosing not to deal with men They are not. Again, maybe they are where you live. But globally they are not. Your local community is not a reflection of the entire planet. You're american, right? I know that this a concept that is difficult for americans to grasp. Lives and female autonomy are at risk Again, this is a thing in the US. Not a thing here in europe. It's more complicated in south america, because we're talking about poorer countries that still suffer the concequenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 11:59 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADBut I'm willing to bet it's an extreme example. It is a somewhat extreme example of an ugly man, but it's also a real one. Both ugly men and ugly women are real human beings that actually exist in the real world, and deserve respect, we shouldn't be sweeping them under the rug and not even acknowledge their existance. Everyone has a point at which they consider attractiveness insufficient to date. That image is one man that the enormous overwhelming majority of women will consider insufficient. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 11:28 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADNo looks isn't the next thing. Who the person is is the next thing. Are they someone who is intelligent, kind, has similar values, etc. This is absolutely incorrect. If a man looks like this, no amount of intelligence, kindness or value compatibility will make women want to date him. Relationships are not built on just personality, physical attraction is a huge fundamental component of them, and if there is no physical attraction a relationship won't exist to begin with. This notion that women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 10:19 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThe 10-point scale is useless. There's nothing useless about it, it's just an allegory that serves as shorthand. Instead of typing "average", "slightly below average", "below average", "unnatractive" every time, I can type 5/10, 4/10, 3/10, 2/10 respectively. The normal distribution of human attractiveness is something that objectively exists. My point is that it's not the absolute first thing to come into play. A woman must first be interested in pursuing romance. Ok, sure. This doesn't disprov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 08:40 PM |
| 3 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADReminder: looks aren't the most important. I disagree with this, I think looks are very important and the absolute first thing people will judge you on. But the bar is lower than most people think, especially the doomer men here. For example, say a woman would date a 4/10 or higher (i.e. she will date someone slightly below average, but not a lot below average). If you're 4/10 or 5/10, you made the cut-off, and then all the other things you listed start to matter and could work in his favour. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 08:25 PM |
| 2 | No one will force you to pay for dates if you don't want toMe. I would feel weird paying. Why would I want to be with someone for whom my time and company isn't enough? What's the point of dating someone who doesn't like me unless money is involved? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 08:02 PM |
| 5 | No one will force you to pay for dates if you don't want toSame, I'm a 34 year old (who, unlike your flair, am an average looking guy who's nowhere close to being a "chad") and I never paid for someone else on dates in my life. Didn't stop me from having 3 LTRs, a few other shorter relationships, and a few more casual flings throughout my life. Not "chad" levels of action, but I'm pretty satisfied with what I got, and never had to foot the bill alone. That being said, I'm not american. Dating culture in the US sounds miserable to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itWhat you describe is not love. You don't get to declare what other people feel is or isn't. Again, that is exceptionally arrogant and stupid of you. Attraction often has little to do with love Without attraction, people will not be open to spend time together and develop love. Again, explained in detail in my previous comment, and you failed to comprehend it. Go back and read it again. When you love someone they are attractive to you, regardless of what they look like. What you are describing is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Men are lonely because women are changed.OP, I think you are largely right on what you wrote, with the addendum that you are describing one particular type of man (the selfish immature traditional conservative). I even agree that this type of men deserves the loneliness that they face. The problem is that not every man who is lonely is that kind of man. To give you an anecdotal example, I have a friend who lives in the US who has struggled with loneliness, isolation and depression for years now. He had a girlfriend in uni, but got chea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itExcept love isn't something that just happens suddenly out of nowhere. Love has to grow over time, and it has to be mutual. In other for love to exist, there needs to be attraction between two people first, and then those people need to spend time together. And people don't give their time to just about anyone who wants it. You're only gonna give your time to some you already felt attracted/open to. If a woman says "I don't date men under 6 feet", then she doesn't allow herself the time to fall … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 01:19 PM |
| 2 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itWomen are not chasing "Chad" to win him over. This made up fiction of the manosphere needs to die. "Chasing chad" is just allegory for having "high standards". And as you can see in this very subreddit, many women will themselves proudly proclaim to have "high standards". Of course, not every woman is like this. But, particularly in the US, a lot of them got roped into this "high standards" culture. Only this culture incentivizes a lot of women to pursue the very small amount of men who can meet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 05:00 AM |
| 2 | The manosphere doesn’t believe men should be putting effort into relationships.1 in 6 boys were found to have a postive opinion on Tate. So yeah, women are insulted by the manosphere and they have a pretty big audience. I thought you were being personally insulted by someone here. But you're right, the manosphere types are assholes who insult women. I also feel insulted by FDS/4B types who broadly insult men. And it's okay to debate that of course, but don't let it consume your mental state and cause you distress. It's just assholes on the internet, and there's little we c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 08:01 PM |
| 5 | The manosphere doesn’t believe men should be putting effort into relationships.Who the fuck would be silent while theyre being insulted? Thats a doormat. Paying assholes no mind is a stupid idea when theyre falsely accusing you of things due to their own problems. Are you being insulted? I responded to your post with no previous context. If you're responding to insults that's fair, but that context wasn't given here. Did you ask for a hookup? I invited her over to my apartment, she said yes. To me both the hookup and the possibility of a relationship were implied in that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 07:19 PM |
| 1 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Okay, I see. It seems you're speaking from a place of scarcity/insecurity. Which is normal, I also wouldn't want to date a woman who has a drastically higher N-count than me, because that's too big a difference in life experiences and I wouldn't be comfortable with that. But if you get the opportunity to have sex with even just a small handful of people (and I hope you do), you'll see that this concern about "best sex ever had" quickly wanes. The best physical sensation may have been with a bad … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 05:58 PM |
| 5 | The manosphere doesn’t believe men should be putting effort into relationships.When they bitch about feeling unloved, yes, Sure, but I think you're falling for a bit of goomba fallacy here. The men who bitch online about feeling unloved aren't the same men that are going around having casual sex, those are two different groups of people. You havent seen guys here who bitch about women making them wait for sex and not other guys? When you ask them if they made it clear they wanted a hookup, they said no. So they dont even want to admit it. I have, I fact I'm one of them. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 05:42 PM |
| 1 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵And why would a man do all this for a woman that doesn't feel he's the best sex partner she's ever had? I see this sentiment here often (maybe it was from you specifically, I didn't pay attention to the usernames), and frankly, I never understood it. Why do you frame this as it being only about the woman? Isn't it equally true for men? Do you only date a woman if she's the best sex you've ever had? I 100% understand the responses you get from women on this, because it's the same thing for me. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 05:08 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere doesn’t believe men should be putting effort into relationships.Men who don't want relationships don't put effort into relationships Well, duh. You speak as if not liking/wanting relationships is a flaw of character. But men who don't like/want relationships don't see it as a flaw of character. They do what you describe in your post because that's exactly what they want, they want sex and no relationship. If you go up to them and say "that means you don't actually like relationships!" like it's some kind of gotcha, they are just going to agree with you. Why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.Maybe where you live. None of what you said is true anywhere that I've lived (south america and europe). Except for the young women with female roommates, which has always been a thing, nothing changed in that regard. What you said sounds like american gender wars, coupled with some good old US defaultism. Dating in other places is not anywhere near as vitriolitic as it is for you in the US. Women and men here don't hate each other like you described. I and most of my friends (both the europeans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itPeople form relationships based on compatibility and chemistry. That's a huge naivety on your part. Men absolutely see dating as a matter of "superiority", "league", and having options. Why do you think it's such a common complaint in woman circles that they get used for sex and then dumped? That's because they are chasing men above their "league", and those men will take the oportunity to get easy sex and then move on, because they have other/better options and don't need to commit to her. You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 08:12 AM |
| 2 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.No its men that should be held accountable for unlawful behavior THEY COMMIT. They are. That's why we have a justice system. Doesn't negate the fact that some women deliberately pick those men to be in a relationship with, which is negligence on their part. becuase YOU have never taken accountability for yourself ????? I was never abusive, violent, or commited any crimes towards any woman. I have nothing I need to take accountability for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.So why should women be blamed for men engaging in poor behavior Women are the ones who choose to be with abusive/violent men. Other men are not responsible for the behavior of the abusive/violent man, nor for the woman's choice to stay with him. Men cannot engage in poor behavior in relationships if women don't 1) choose to enter a relationship with that man, and 2) choose to continue in a relationship with that man after being disrespected/abused for the first time. It's women who have to take … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 08:37 PM |
| 3 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.Yeah, exactly my point. Do you see misogynistic communities like red pill/mgtow/etc and "giggle and keep scrolling" like the commenter above said, with zero worry? No? That's how men feel about the hateful FDS/4B/"no good men" stuff too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 08:15 PM |
| 3 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.How about men take ACCOUNTABILITY for criminal and abusive behavior WTF are you suggesting here? That innocent men should be accountable for the crimes of other men that have nothing to do with them? What kind of nonsense argument is this? Nobody has to take accountability for the crimes of others. A criminal will be arrested, tried and jailed, that's the accountability that is relevant here. Men (or women) who don't commit crimes don't need to take accountability for the crimes of others, that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 05:59 PM |
| 8 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.If I see an unattractive person saying they only want to date supermodels, I giggle and keep scrolling. The problem is those high-standards women don't frame it as "I only want to date supermodels", they frame it as "men are all trash"/"there are no good men". So obviously men take issue with that. If instead of seeing an unattractive man go "I only want to date supermodels", you saw multiple unnatractive men congragate on a community to all discuss how only young, pretty, thin/fit women with bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.Wait, so you're saying you are a very attractive woman thhat men frequently refer to as perfect/goddess, and who intentionally pursues average-looking nerdy dudes, which get self-conscious when they're with you due to fear of losing you? Yet, on your first comment, you said "men have treated me like objects to use whenever they do come around". This story doesn't add up. I dislike the implications of your words that I am self-objectifying That's not what my implication was. My implication, based… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 10:07 PM |
| – | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.You're missing u/Poorbatman471's point because of the "1%" hyperbole. The only reason you were "treated like an object to be used" by the people who you were pursuing was that those people were above your league and had better options than you. That's why they can afford to use you for sex and then discard you, they don't need to value you because they have better options. Only men who are in the same league as you (i.e. roughly as attractive to women as you are attractive to men) have an incent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 06:34 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADand my answer is because that someone else would have more of what you value But it's just as easy to find those other things I value in other people who also do want to sleep with me. If my choices are "someone kind, pleasant and compatible who wants to make me wait for sex" vs "someone kind, pleasant and compatible who wants to have sex with me right away", it's obvious I'm gonna go with the second one. i'm poly, so i have an advantage here, i'll find sex elsewhere if that would be the case Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 02:40 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADIs there nothing else you value? Of course I value other things too, like kindness, a pleasant personality, compatible life goals, and so on. But this conversation was about sex. I would date a man who doesn't fuck me at all under certain circumstances. Well, personally, a relationship without physical intimacy (of which sex is a huge part of) makes no sense to me. I appreaciate all the other aspects of a relationship, like the companionship, emotional support, quality time together and so on. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 02:08 PM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI wouldn't say I "fuck around", I'm in my 30s with somewhere in the 10 to 15 vicinity for my N-count. That averages to around 1 person per every 1.5 years that I've been dating/sexually active. Pretty standard where I live. That's a few relatioships that worked out and lasted a while, a few more than didn't work out and ended more quickly, and a few ONS here and there. Of course, I'm not a hypocrite, I think women my age having counts similar to or even a bit higher than mine is perfectly fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 04:13 PM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWhat exactly sounds bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 03:59 PM |
| 5 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI wasn't offering to date you. I'm responding to the point you made. You completely ignored mine. Why should I entertain women who want to wait for sex, when I (even as an average dude) can just as easily find women who don't want to wait? Why do you think I should accept waiting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 03:41 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADwhat counts as making someone wait for sex? To me, if we don't have sex the second time we meet, that's saying something. It's understandable if the first date is just a "we're just getting to know each other" deal, but on the second date she alreadys know if she wants to. No sex on the second date means she either doesn't want to, or does want to but is choosing against it for whatever reason, which is the same end result. In either case, I'll then go out with someone else. You're allowed to wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 03:22 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADLet me put it this way. I'm very far from being a "chad", I'm an average-looking, very thin/skinny, and slightly below average height for men where I live (which, to be fair, is nowhere near as much a problem as it is in the US, as women here aren't obsessed with height like american women are). I have faced a LOT of rejection over the years. And even within that context, I still have always managed to find women who would sleep with me quickly. Every single woman I ever dated slept with me long… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 02:54 PM |
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