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vecter/r/seduction26/11/19 06:18 AM
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Logisticsvecter/r/seduction21/07/21 06:50 AM
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-1

We’re talking about seduction. What are you going on about?
/r/seduction19/01/25 02:32 PM
2

Why the sarcasm
/r/seduction19/01/25 12:58 PM
4

That’s because 95% of men are clueless and don’t know how to maintain attraction
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:33 AM
1

So what? Next.
/r/seduction14/01/25 02:41 PM
3

As man, you should never ask for the relationship. That’s the woman’s job. Your job is to seduce her enough that she wants to ask you for it.
/r/seduction14/01/25 02:05 AM
15

Most likely you have the same issue as 99% of guys, which is having boring logical platonic conversation. Search on YouTube for how to flirt.
/r/seduction13/01/25 10:21 PM
3

It’s night and day. Literally the difference between attraction and no attraction. Of course it’s still hard, but you have zero chance without rizz. With rizz, you have a small chance
/r/seduction13/01/25 05:34 AM
5

That won't work. You need to focus specifically on flirting. Coach Kyle is pretty good for this: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KSlQUJOEw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UnleoseK2k - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Bx59lKMXE
/r/seduction12/01/25 10:34 PM
12

I know because I've always been a crazy social person my entire life. Put me in a room with anyone and I can make fluid smooth conversation. But I had no rizz. It's an entirely different skillset.
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:28 PM
17

This isn't actually relevant advice. OP needs to learn how to inject a man-to-woman frame into his conversations. Talking to a lot of random people without focusing on that will do nothing but reinforce his existing non-rizzed conversations.
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:25 PM
118

That’s normal. Rizz is hard. Took me years to develop and I’m still only ok at it
/r/seduction12/01/25 04:18 PM
2

Calibration is important. If you notice she’s uncomfortable, apply comfort. However, apologizing for no reason is weird, low-value, and actually uncalibrated
/r/seduction10/01/25 06:02 PM
2

Walking around outside
/r/seduction09/01/25 08:31 PM
4

It's so strange. This sub used to have folks who understood even basic principles. Now things like "never double text" gets upvoted, when it in fact is one of the worst possible ideologies to follow and is the antithesis of one of the fundamentals of good game, which is non-need persistence. Truly weird. It's like this place got overrun by redpilled MGTOWs who watch Fresh n Fit 24/7 and haven't touched grass or actually talked to a woman in real life for years.
/r/seduction09/01/25 05:17 PM
4

Double-texting is “pushing shit uphill”? This place has lost its mind. No, that’s literally how most of game works. It’s tough. Lays with hot girls are hard to get. Of course like I said in another comment, it makes sense to stop at some point, but persistence is key for results. Your absurd hypothetical straw man is just that, an absurd strawman. There are no 8s anywhere eyefucking me. I’m not blind. Good for you if that’s your life but it’s just hard for most of us.
/r/seduction09/01/25 12:22 AM
-1

Most women who are very attractive aren’t instantly smitten by a guy. You should know: men are like light switches, women are like dimmers. It’s a slower ramp up for them. Most women I meet, even when I run great game and have a great interaction, aren’t jumping on me the moment I text them. Real investment doesn’t get built until you have sex anyway. And even then it sometimes takes a few sessions for them to really start to like you.
/r/seduction08/01/25 10:26 PM
-4

It depends on the context, but in general asking her out right away is too fast and pushy. Inject some man-to-woman in the convo and flirt with her, build some investment, then ask her out
/r/seduction08/01/25 05:53 PM
0

Absolutely wrong. Needy double texting is needy. Needy persistence is needy. Non-needy double texting is not needy. Non-needy persistence is not needy. https://youtu.be/yUBwq-bzCaw?si=eaWrJmDs-PhO66Wg
/r/seduction08/01/25 04:48 PM
6

Because this is the real world. Women generally have lower interest than men in the beginning. That’s how biology works. This mentality of “if she’s not crazy about me right away” isn’t some bold masculine claim, it’s actually just the sign of a fragile ego. Hell, I’ve forgotten to text my friends back before. Does that mean they should walk away from our friendship? Wouldn’t it be ridiculous if they said “this guy has my number/message. They can message if needed. I’ve done my part”. Some of th…
/r/seduction08/01/25 03:14 PM
-13

That’s terrible butthurt behavior. Double texting is ok as long as it’s not needy
/r/seduction08/01/25 03:05 PM
4

You clearly don’t understand women
/r/seduction02/01/25 03:26 AM
4

This has nothing to do with traumatized women or not. This is how normal healthy women perceive reality.
/r/seduction02/01/25 01:33 AM
0

Thanks man. Very few guys get it. Glad you do too.
/r/seduction27/12/24 03:18 PM
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Forever. I pay for pretty much everything. The girls I’ve treated this way in the past often end up doing a lot of things for me without asking, getting me gifts, or just proactively paying for stuff once in a while so I don’t even get the chance to pay. But it’s mostly because I’m extremely masculine so they like me for my personality and want to show their appreciation. When I pay for things, I never make them feel like they owe me something, because they don’t. That would be a bribe for sex, …
/r/seduction26/12/24 05:44 AM
6

Good point. Even though it’s an emotional interaction, he gave her an “out” to give him her number in a way that didn’t make her feel slutty in public
/r/seduction26/12/24 04:45 AM
9

They will soon be replaced by AI girlfriends. It’s a terrible trend and men are becoming weaker and sadder with each passing year, but it’s reality.
/r/seduction26/12/24 04:41 AM
-15

More than men?
/r/seduction18/12/24 04:29 AM
1

You have height privilege. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. You’re clearly unaware of it. I’m not some short guy complaining. I’m 6’ and lucky for that. But I’m also aware that I have mild height privilege, whereas you are unaware of (or seemingly actively trying to ignore) your extensive height privilege. It’s a great thing to have obviously, not sure why you’re taking it like an insult. Saying that short guys are just blaming their insecurities on height is beyond arrogant and cond…
/r/seduction12/12/24 08:50 PM
1

No need for the defensive attitude. You're 6'3" dude. Do you realize how many doors that opens for you? There will be some fraction of women that no matter what you do, they won't be receptive. That's fine. Next. But, you could get a better reception from many more if you had better game. That's just a fact.
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:21 PM
1

You can’t flirt. Learn to flirt. It’s on you to create a spark with a girl
/r/seduction12/12/24 02:46 PM
2

Never allow yourself to be friendzoned to begin with
/r/seduction11/12/24 10:15 PM
1

What turns women off is neediness. You can be persistent in a non-needy way. Obviously persistence has its limits also, and at some point you have to stop, but double-texting is nowhere near that limit. The context and how you do it matters.
/r/seduction18/11/24 05:04 AM
1

facts
/r/seduction18/11/24 05:03 AM
2

Even that's not true. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYAP_MjTpmga
/r/seduction16/11/24 02:41 AM
8

Legitimately awful advice. Some of the hottest girls I’ve been with I’ve had to double text. Don’t get butthurt
/r/seduction16/11/24 02:00 AM
1

That’s not your average approach. On average, you only succeed a small percentage of time. So the expected time for a date is probably many hours
/r/seduction15/11/24 01:41 PM
1

Yes, assuming the woman is attractive. It’s hard to get dates with attractive women
/r/seduction15/11/24 06:58 AM
0

This is bad advice. OP just need to learn game. Develop some rizz. He’s probably your typical boring guy
/r/seduction15/11/24 12:31 AM
1

Masculinity + flirting and sexual tension
/r/seduction12/11/24 02:27 PM
2

He’s 5’7” at best and slightly overweight. A 6 on looks. But great great game
/r/seduction22/10/24 03:15 AM
2

You are by far in the minority
/r/seduction27/06/24 12:03 PM
0

Please elaborate
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:58 PM
3

Are you that lacking in self-awareness? You’re a 6’2” good-looking Chad. Try being a 5’8” average-looking dude and claim that shit tests don’t exist. That’s not even me but I get shit tested all the time. Sometimes when I pass them, she gets interested and we go all the way.
/r/seduction23/04/24 04:12 PM
11

You’re*
/r/seduction11/04/24 06:05 AM
34

Both you and OP are right and don’t contradict each other
/r/seduction06/04/24 04:21 PM
1

Yes they do. Most women are low value. Most women have multiple bodies, and never been married, and aren't striving for it. That's where we disagree. Most women I know are not hoes. How is it that 80-90% of women you meet are hoes?
/r/seduction15/03/24 08:59 PM
1

Yes she has decided, and this is obvious because of her past. When a woman has been with multiple men before you, she has already decided she is NOT striving to be with one man for the rest of her life. This is pretty simple to identify. That is a true statement, but most women don't fall into that category. And most women don't know whether or not they want to be with a man forever, until they actually meet a man whom they respect enough to want to be with forever. They're not logical like men.…
/r/seduction15/03/24 07:45 PM
1

Way too hard to explain in a comment. You could write books about it. A good starting point is Casey Zander: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=casey+zander+frame Two playlists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-xj3p_xQP8&list=PLxJiu4hQthmMiazl4GqO-JEprh-xstpHy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0DhvJiGQoo&list=PLxJiu4hQthmNqazDXDrzs3axL0spldm1h
/r/seduction15/03/24 05:11 PM
0

You are agreeing with me. No I am not. ​ Either she is striving to be with one man for the rest of her life, or she isn't. Often times, a woman hasn't decided whether or not she wants to be with one man for the rest of her life. If she comes across a guy she truly admires and respect, then she'll feel that she does. If she doesn't, then often she won't. That's how women are. They're led in a million different directions by their emotions, which change constantly. Note that these women aren't nec…
/r/seduction15/03/24 04:49 PM
2

Your first two sentences are generally wrong. Your last sentences are correct though.
/r/seduction15/03/24 06:35 AM
1

This is straight-up wrong. She leaves because you have no frame or you don’t maintain it. You make it sound like every woman is bound to leave every man. You don’t understand women at all if you believe that.
/r/seduction15/03/24 06:34 AM
3

You’ve failed if you’ve ploughed to get that reaction. You need to see the right frames from the beginning, not push forward without being calibrated to her emotional state
/r/seduction09/03/24 03:32 PM
2

Is that your personal experience doing pickup? My close rate is way less than 25%. Only about 25-30% of girls respond to my initial text. I'm in NYC. I'm not terrible at it either. Not advanced, but probably somewhere in intermediate. It's not like I'm some weird autistic kid with no social skills getting flake numbers. Even if I have a solid interaction, many just ghost. I'm skeptical of anyone who gets 25% of their numbers to dates. Extremely skeptical.
/r/seduction31/01/24 08:25 PM
3

You must be a Casanova or something because even the world’s best pickup artists have like a 10% numbers to date rate
/r/seduction31/01/24 06:14 PM
1

Wdym? It's very effective. I do it all the time
/r/seduction27/01/24 11:03 PM
2

Yes I’m 37
/r/seduction27/01/24 07:03 AM
2

Stop when you've re-pinged her three times (over say 5-10 days) and you get pure silence. Sometimes I've waited 2 weeks or even a month to re-ping and it was perfect. But quadruple texting with no response often means it's time to move on.
/r/seduction23/01/24 09:30 PM
6

I double-text almost every girl whose number I get on the street at least once (except sometimes if they ignore my first message--that's usually a really bad sign). It depends on how much investment you're getting from the girl. Plenty of girls just get busy and forget or miss messages. It's natural. Yes, if they were crazy about you they probably wouldn't have forgotten, but the world is not so black and white and this absolutist view that "if she doesn't love me 100%, then screw her!" is ridic…
/r/seduction23/01/24 02:02 AM
1

I'm confused lol, what does that mean?
/r/seduction22/01/24 05:40 PM
48

This is bad advice. Persistence matters, BUT it must be non-needy. I’ve closed girls that I’ve had to double text.
/r/seduction21/01/24 04:29 PM
0

Figure out what you’re doing wrong
/r/seduction18/09/21 08:47 AM
4

That second quote pissed me off so much. If I were a mod, I’d remove this post
/r/seduction01/09/20 05:15 PM
1

Todd V is very successful with women and he looks like he’s 5’8”, maybe 5’7”
/r/seduction26/08/20 07:27 AM
2

Dude your knowledge of game is basically zero. Start with the fundamentals. You’re doing literally everything wrong.
/r/seduction25/08/20 07:56 AM
8

This is why you don’t ask women for dating advice.
/r/seduction19/08/20 09:27 PM
37

I agree with you. It’s hard to say without more info, but most likely OP is doing something wrong.
/r/seduction24/12/19 09:04 PM
7

Might be a matter of execution, but verbally asking seems needy
/r/seduction20/12/19 11:38 PM
9

“Can a man be brave when he’s afraid?” “That’s the only time a man can be brave.”
/r/seduction13/12/19 05:42 PM
0

Did you read it correctly? That’s what the girl said to HIM, not what he said.
/r/seduction04/12/19 05:45 PM
1

Needy.
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:20 PM
1

There aren’t 100% rules, but there are definitively 99% rules. By perpetrating this concept that anything is ok, all you’re doing is unintentionally reinforcing people’s many bad habits. That’s why we’re here in this sub. To carve out our bad habits and develop good habits.
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:30 PM
2

Depends on context and your delivery
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:08 AM
7

1-3 days If it went super well next day is probably fine, but I generally do around 2
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:26 AM
3

You’re right. As Todd says, the answer to everything in game is “it depends”. Generally though, this is needy behavior. Lots of people read these posts and learn things, so I wanted to call this out as something to avoid as a general pattern.
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:34 AM
22

Why are you being defensive on his behalf. Sometimes people perform the wrong action and get a good outcome. Sometimes people perform the right action and get a bad outcome. We all grow with constructive criticism.
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:28 AM
8

Fosho, just offering some feedback
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:18 AM
71

Awesome, congrats! One tip: don’t try to nail down the next date right away. That can be needy. It’s fine to plant some seeds for stuff in the future, but that’s more subtle and can be done in a push-pull way. e.g. “hey if you turn out to be actually cool, maybe I’ll show you XYZ one day”
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:00 AM
1

Thanks! Trying my best not to screw this up. Prolly need to change that mindset to be high value.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:52 AM
1

She actually did reply later, just took a bit of time. Still texting and trying to get her out again.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:41 AM
2

Don’t women slut-shame women more than men do
/r/seduction01/11/19 01:25 AM
4

Some degree is good for the guy. Too much is unhealthy.
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:26 PM
4

Curious about your interest in browsing this sub as a woman. Not judging, genuinely curious what you’re looking to learn.
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:54 AM
2

I appreciate your engaging in a genuine conversation without agenda. Game is CERTAINLY real. I know because I've improved my game in the past 3 months and have seen drastically different results with women. I've pulled more women of higher quality in the past 3 months than I have in the past 10 years. I can assure you that nothing significant about me has changed in those 3 months aside from game. My job is the same. I look the same. The only difference is how I act and behave. A lot of of the c…
/r/seduction19/10/19 07:06 AM
1

No one said she’s interested or will like him. Just saying that neutral doesn’t mean no. Jesus Christ.
/r/seduction18/10/19 06:09 AM
2

Speak for yourself
/r/seduction18/10/19 02:24 AM
12

Nice disqualification.
/r/seduction18/10/19 02:24 AM
0

lol if someone showed you that 1+1=2, you would say the same thing
/r/seduction17/10/19 05:28 AM
0

lmao I’ve invested money and have gotten huge returns after improving my game. Most abundance I’ve ever had in my entire life, and I’m only 3 months in.
/r/seduction17/10/19 05:23 AM
-1

You’re an incel in a seduction sub. Wrong place.
/r/seduction17/10/19 05:18 AM
0

Also mostly false. Yes obviously good looks help. Duh. But your behavior and the way you carry yourself matter. Can you seduce any girl in the world? Of course not, that’s nonsense. You can’t even seduce most girls in the world. But that’s besides the point. If you don’t believe me, look at the average looking pickup artists out there. Take Tom Torrero for instance. Very average-looming bloke. Gets hot girls.
/r/seduction17/10/19 05:11 AM
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This is terrible advice and I’m shocked it got so many upvotes on this subreddit. Intermediate+ game is all about turning sets around that start neutral. In fact pretty much every set you have with a hot girl will start neutral. As long as she’s not ejecting and you’re still in the set, you have a chance.
/r/seduction16/10/19 11:38 PM
2

Approach
/r/seduction15/10/19 06:27 AM
15

I once waited a couple of days and said “NAME. What happened this weekend” They responded the next day and after some banter and a short phone call where I did a pretty good job of teasing her and building comfort (she seemed very nervous and in her head), she agreed to meet up.
/r/seduction14/10/19 03:15 AM
1

Don't be so hard on yourself. Learn from your mistakes, but don't be toxic and cruel to yourself. You need to build yourself up, not tear yourself down.
/r/seduction07/10/19 12:53 AM
143

Most communication is nonverbal. That’s what “vibe” means
/r/seduction02/10/19 12:15 AM
2

Body language. Tonality. Laser eye contact. Slow speech. Pausing. Killer combo.
/r/seduction27/09/19 07:02 AM
-3

Only b/c OP's beta behavior enabled this to begin with. If he had been alpha the entire time, do you think she would've done this? Let's get real, we're honest with each other in this sub.
/r/seduction27/09/19 06:53 AM
1

These are actually SOLID fundamentals that everyone should learn. I’ve been doing game for a couple of months and I’m still working on these. Also, talk louder.
/r/seduction22/09/19 06:50 AM
5

Congrats bro. Excelsior.
/r/seduction16/09/19 05:08 AM
0

Cringe. Let’s get this beta male shit out of here.
/r/seduction16/09/19 02:19 AM
1

Actually yeah. If you’ve made concrete plans (time and place), you’re set. Find Corey’s stuff on YouTube
/r/seduction13/09/19 04:26 AM
3

Read Corey Wayne. Make concrete plans and you’re set. Don’t text her after you’ve made plans
/r/seduction13/09/19 04:10 AM
1

Read Corey Wayne. You’re chasing too hard and not giving her enough space
/r/seduction12/09/19 07:53 AM
3

Bro, read Corey Wayne (or search him on YouTube). It will seriously fix all of your problems. You must love her in a way that makes her feel free. A relationship should be her idea, not yours. Have fun, hang out, hook up. Eventually she’ll ask you to be official.
/r/seduction20/08/19 07:58 AM
1

Nice! Will try that. The key isn’t that you cold call, you actually do a bit of prep before 👌
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:38 AM
1

Oh great point. Hadn’t thought of an instant date 👍
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:34 AM
1

Sure, but why even bother to ask? If you ask for a girl’s phone number, she KNOWS it’s not to be best friends. There’s a man to women context implied there. If she’s not available or interested, she’ll just let guy know
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:28 AM
3

I wouldn’t even ask #4. If she has a bf, she’ll let you know
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:13 AM
4

Depends on what kind of hook you have. Girls are very adverse to picking up calls nowadays, especially if they just met you.
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:12 AM
1

That’s not at all what Corey says. How can you possibly get a date if you don’t communicate with her?
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:04 AM
6

Hell yeah
/r/seduction06/08/19 04:46 AM
24

Read Corey Wayne. Texting is like a game of tennis. You hit the ball and wait for her to hit it back.
/r/seduction06/08/19 04:45 AM
6

Cannot recommend #1 enough. Literally changed my dating life. Have bought 3 copies and give them as gifts to guys I care about
/r/seduction06/08/19 04:20 AM
5

This is incredibly good advice. Listen up OP
/r/seduction04/08/19 03:07 AM
9

To a very small degree, but let’s not kid ourselves that skill is still the primary factor in your success
/r/seduction04/08/19 12:47 AM
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I’ve read it three times. I’ve bought multiple copies and given them as gifts to friends and others. When it comes to dating and relationships, there is no better source of truth. Corey nails down exactly how women feel and what they want in a man and long term partner. In my opinion, it is knowledge that every man in the world must know if he is to live a truly happy life. I cannot endorse his material enough. That having been said, I want to explain what this book is not. It is not about picku…
/r/seduction19/07/19 07:24 AM
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