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I don't understand your point? You're doubting BP's opinion of TRP as sociopathic/sadistic, or vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:38 PM
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I think TRP posts speak louder than the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:58 PM
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Anyone can buy sex. I don't see what the big deal is about the C conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:47 PM
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Did you not catch I was being facetious about your username? Edit: now I see, I misformatted. Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:40 PM
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Must be a difference in life experience then. Maybe even ethnicity. Either that or you're drunk. But it's interesting, I hadn't considered it could be a demographic issue. Assault is not okay. You've reminded me of that video where the guy slaps the girl on the subway. Where is it...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:33 PM
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Ehhhhhhh. Facts can be manipulated by attitude. Let's look at a different example. Fact: XX% of XX crime is committed by black men. Then it is extrapolated that many black men are criminals. But the issue is more complex than this, it depends on the current laws in place, and how they affect different population demographics. This is where you can get into institutional racism, etc. My point is that while facts "can't dislike anything," the groundwork behind a societal problem can set the facts …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:25 PM
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Most women aren't used to being rejected, so when it does happen, they tend to go nuclear. No. But are there a minority? Sure. I see a difference with how each "goes nuclear." The women that do this tend to attack objects (destroy his car, egg his house, destroy the items he leaves in your home), while men tend to attack people (the girl who rejected him).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:16 PM
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But I've also never seen a man break down and cry because someone said his hair looked dumb. So there's that. Yeah, instead there are men who physically attack women who reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:10 PM
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Which RP ideas are factually incorrect, and not simply offensive to you? How much time do you have :) EDIT: I didn't finish, sorry. The basis of why I believe most RP ideas to be factually incorrect is that some do apply correctly to a subset of women, but that they apply incorrectly to the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:10 PM
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Here's one on PubMed that reviews numerous studies on the subject and concludes: "Taken together, these studies failed to provide clear evidence in support of the existence of a specific premenstrual negative mood syndrome in the general population. This puzzlingly widespread belief needs challenging, as it perpetuates negative concepts linking female reproduction with negative emotionality." Is it fair to say your contention with RP is with its accuracy, and not its tone? Majorly, yes. But even…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:48 PM
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Men won't usually be this honest to a woman's face for fear of retribution over perceived hurt feelings. Isn't this why women aren't really blunt with men? Because when you are, there's a fear of retaliation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:38 PM
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There's this RPW discussion about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:33 PM
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I can understand that perspective, I don't agree with it entirely. Since we are such an intelligent species, I would think this romantic success would be a factor in fulfillment, not the entire picture. but I wonder if the anger, bitterness, misogyny, fear of divorce rape etc. ultimately makes it harder for them to be happy and enjoy relationships. I wonder this too! Can you really enjoy a relationship with someone when you believe that they are beneath you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:28 PM
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My mistake. My other point still stands. I hope one day you realize your disgust is misplaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:24 PM
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but still does exactly that at the height of her cycle There's this study from 2012 that disproves negative moods and menstruation. I know there was a recent one, I'm trying to find it on PubMed, but I might need to phone a friend. Yes, I am an INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:23 PM
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After realizing the deception of the wonder bra, would you lose some attraction to that person? Not necessarily because of the deception, but because of the reality of what they are underneath?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:18 PM
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What in the world gives you the idea that a man will feel deceived and pissed off that a woman looks better with makeup than without? Why would you believe this? Lot's of comments about women without makeup, especially the morning after. Are you one of those women who would be upset at learning that a man she was dating studied a "guide" about women and dating? I think it would just make me sad. Why would you need to study a guide about women and dating? Really? Just, why? Men and women really a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:17 PM
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I should have clarified - I've never been told any of these things by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:14 PM
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The problem is you can't separate emotion from your thoughts. You hear an idea and your first consideration isn't how true or false it is, it's how bad does it make you feel No, just, no. This is 100% false. If this were true, it would be impossible for women to have the INTJ personality type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:11 PM
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You're speaking solely of YOUR own experience, and extrapolating it to all women; and then projecting it on men. This sounds just like what you and TRP does, honestly, except flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:05 PM
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It does a great job of determining that no one is allowed to create a stereotype of a category of behavior, doesn't it? And that you're never allowed to clarify who you are talking about. Lot's of "this is invalid because it is" logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:03 PM
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have you ever in your life had a man (a date, a boyfriend, a fling, a ONS) tell you that he felt deceived, betrayed and lied to because you were less hot without makeup or because your makeup made you look better? No, because I don't usually wear makeup, and when I do, it's limited :) It's not for any feminist reason, really, I'm just lazy. Why should I have to paint a face on and pretend to be something that I'm not? No guy I've ever been with has enjoyed it more when I did wear makeup. More ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:00 PM
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Glass houses and all that. Fair enough. You also have this hilariously off (but sadly common) belief that self-betterment has to only come about in a fashion that props women up I said anything remotely close to that. I am baffled that self-betterment at TRP occurs by tearing women down. Why can't you stop talking about women? WHY?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:57 PM
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this is why I, as an absolutely average guy, positively despise women You realize that you are part of the reason that RPers are labeled as misogynistic, right? I mean come on, you're not even trying to hide it. And you can't even tell when s/he said "women want it all" s/he was being sarcastic. You fell right for the bait. Your comment just makes me sad. I'm sorry that you despise women. I'm sorry that shitty things have happened to you that make you believe women are like what you describe. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:52 PM
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Just about EVERY woman can increase her attractiveness with makeup, or "better" makeup more tailored to her facial structure, eye color, complexion and hairstyle. Yeah, but isn't this at its base falsehood? She doesn't actually look like that underneath the makeup. Wouldn't someone be pissed off for being "deceived" that she was hot when she actually wasn't when she removed the makeup? A woman with short hair will be attractive to a small set of men. A woman who grows out her hair will be more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:44 PM
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Women don't do that to nice guys. They tell them the opposite of what they want. It sounds like most women tell nice guys to "just be themselves" and that is somehow a lie. It's not a lie. I have never been attracted to a guy who did not act like his true self. However, not everyone is attractive, physically or personality-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:42 PM
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I did read the article. I still don't think it addresses this stereotype. The subreddit is not talking about guys who suffer from shyness. The subreddit is talking about douchebags. Barry and his ilk described in that article are very different than the majority of characters highlighted on r/niceguys. So you can try to "you didn't read the article" shame me all you want, I still don't agree with the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:36 PM
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You are not reading me correctly. I am not saying that long hair, not obese, tasteful makeup, dresses like a woman, isn't a bitch, are characteristics of EVERY sexually attractive woman. I am saying that these things are things that women are universally told to do to improve their sexual attractiveness to a broader spectrum of men. A previously unattractive woman who does, or at least tries to do, any or all of these things will improve her attractiveness. My mistake for misunderstanding. Howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:24 PM
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I'll take a shot at changing your view by convincing you that the entire meme is bigoted. anyone who reads that and continues using the term has no moral high ground whatsoever So you're correct because of this article and anyone who reads it and doesn't agree with it is a crap person? OK. The subreddit's purpose is not to make fun of actual nice guys who are just having a hard time finding love, but "[f]or all the self proclaimed "nice guys" who are actually manchildren or douches" So calling a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:17 PM
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--lose weight --wear tastefully applied makeup --dress well and in a feminine manner --keep your hair long --don't be an insufferable bitch This is all your opinion. Except maybe the last one. Note that women are telling men that these things (be yourself, be nice, looks aren't important) are sexually attractive Hm, I think this actually may be where there is a disconnect. I feel like women are responding to the question thinking men are asking how to get women to be emotionally attracted to men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 02:57 PM
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I agree so much with everything you have said!! Describing how NG's view women as the Other is a much better way of putting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 02:25 PM
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You've made the assumption that I believe women are faultless, which is inaccurate. I don't believe that the issues we are dealing with currently have one side as the victim and the other side as the perpetrator. There are subsets of both male and female behavior that are to blame. I believe you are correct in part - we do a terrible job of holding the subset of women that treat men poorly accountable. It's similar to some of the arguments I hear men make about "Not All Men." (When I say "we" I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 02:23 PM
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TRP is saying "here is how the world works, change yourself accordingly". That is the difference. You've failed to challenge my view, you've only confirmed in different words my belief that a RPer is just Nice Guy evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:52 PM
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Much obliged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:21 PM
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To play devil's advocate, we actually don't know if she has told him to back off. We only hear his side, which could be totally off-base from reality. I'm not saying that he is a stalker, but it's not unheard of for stalkers to lie to themselves and everyone else about events that have happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:19 PM
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Christ how many greek letters do you all use? I've only ever been aware of alpha, beta, and plate. Ok, I think you can tell I'm joking about that last one...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:13 PM
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This is such an American view on therapy. Have you ever been? You don't need to have a diagnosable disorder to get something beneficial out of therapy. This guy needs a professional to help him see reality and get control over his obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:09 PM
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Exactly what I was going to say. He needs therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:06 PM
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This is a rectangle and square kind of issue. The men I am attracted to are all intelligent, but I am not attracted to all intelligent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:25 PM
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I'm going to ask you the same question but flipped: Do men find intelligent women attractive? My answer to your question is I believe intelligent women find intelligent men attractive, though I think the marker of intelligence can vary (and not just entail someone who has a PhD)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:05 PM
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Being hit on in the attire you describe when at a bar with friends (usually a mix of female and male in my case, with my SO around) is highly annoying. It happens usually when you are alone: walking to the bar to get the group drinks, saving a table/seats. It's really fucking annoying, but I try to cut these guys some slack, unless they continue bothering me after I've made it clear I don't want to be pursued. You're walking down the harassment path and this point. Undeniable harassment is when …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 12:51 PM
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