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Women can give great advice but its accuracy depends on the woman in the dating scenario. We don't have special access to all women's minds and people in general are very bad at understanding what they want and their motivations. The thing with red pill crap is it keeps talking about most women in dating to men who have not been successful in dating. These guys specifically should listen to women that are exceptions to these ideas. To illustrate what I mean, they constantly talk about how women …
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 08:34 AM
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I'm going to ignore the second point because that's just weird nonsense. Incel means involuntary right? Does it mean you want it and aren't getting it? Are you this antagonistic and openly misogynistic in your real life? Because if so, short of paying for it you'll die a Virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:23 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:11 PM
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Companionship, sex, partnership, literally everything you'd get in a relationship minus a child. You don't need to find those things in a relationship, but you also don't need to be in a relationship to have kids so...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:07 PM
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So the fact that women don't rely on men is the "problem"? I'd argue that marriage is on a hard decline because the option to stay single is often more compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:05 PM
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Wild guess here...You're very single?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:00 PM
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👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:58 PM
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No. They really don't. It's uncomfortable to reject someone and I think people avoid hard things. That's an interesting point about not realizing they're doing it. I guess I wouldn't really consider it ghosting if we've never gone on a date so very likely could fall into that category if the messaging is stale and I lose interest. Can't imagine doing it to someone after a date though.
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:11 PM
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I'm confused, are you telling me what men and women are doing as a group and then trying to point out that one person doesn't speak for a whole group in a single breath?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:12 PM
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The study you're referring to lists its own limitations and how you can't draw that conclusion. That's a horrible thing when it happens. The reality is that 33% of women absolutely aren't taking the time to get ready to potentially face an awkward or potentially dangerous situation for free shit - especially a meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:45 PM
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Oh ya the one study with a million faults on a bunch of 18 year olds that y'all like to quote. Listen man if I need food badly enough that I'm putting myself in that situation that's charity. Read studies better. There is no world in which a third of women are doing this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:27 PM
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Jesus. Free stuff we get from simps is an amazing take - you think I'm putting up with a bunch of insufferable dudes for free shit instead of buying my own? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:39 AM
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Thank you for responding. I'll give you an honest answer - if he has no shot because of the friend zone, he had no shot outside of it. The friend zone just means you don't actually want friendship and you're hovering in which case you're wasting both our time. A man who is platonic in his approach may also be platonic in his intention. I'm not going to assume every man secretly wants me so I will assume that my friends want to be my friends. That being said, friends date all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:11 AM
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I appreciate your understanding of dialogue in a forum asking for dialogue. Top notch. Thank you for allowing me to think what I want. Your generosity is impressive. Why are you even posting?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:59 AM
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To trick her? Lmao amazing. "I'm trying to sleep with you please tell me what works so I can tell you why it's a bad strategy but also why am I not getting laid? " Have I been attracted to platonic conversations? Absolutely. Should men use that as a strategy? To what? Talk to me? Yes. Sleep with me? Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:55 AM
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An intelligent blackpill. Is that incel? Please tell me your story. I'm not seeing nuance in men who can't understand nuance. Doesn't mean their take is worthless but it does mean their take is dangerous. I listen to them because it teaches me who to stay away from. When they say personality doesn't matter and they're not hearing women say otherwise and then circle jerking you have to appreciate it. I've never slept with a man that didn't make me laugh or make me think. I've turned down plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:03 PM
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And that's nuance. It's a beautiful thing. I'll pick stats over anecdotes but I'm well versed in how to assess validity of and interpret statistical studies. Two red pill men on one comment section actually engaging me in intelligent conversation is unheard of. I don't know that I've ever gotten a meaningful response in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:36 PM
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I've dated red pill men. They're not talking over me and telling me what I want. They valued what I brought to the table because I did bring plenty. So did they. Example of actual dumb shit in this sub - telling me what age men will stop wanting me or any of that noise. Telling me that men don't give a shit if I'm smart or successful. My favorite is the n count. I've never been asked that question in my adult life. Look, if the premise is men need to improve, look out for themselves and not get …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:23 PM
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I'm down with statistics if you're capable of understanding limitations of statistics. If you lose the nuance, you're missing the point. Sure taller guys are better looking to most women. Some women don't care. You can't change your height, why not accept that some women don't care? Let's add that most people have no fucking clue what they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:12 PM
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Oh no I'm agreeing with you. This sub is I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:58 PM
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I'm not arguing with most of the ideology. But you're a fool if you engage in this sub and think the majority of the men are actively succeeding with women. You may not be an incel, you are one guy, hell you even sound capable of coherent thought - tell me the majority of these dudes commenting are not brain dead. Who's coping with what? What uncomfortable truth do you think we need to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:57 PM
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This is my favourite r/confidentlyincorrect material
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:50 PM
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Hahahaha the group of single men complaining women don't want them are clearly right about what women DON'T want - them. Pretending to know what we want is what's delusional. Telling us we're wrong about what we want is downright Asinine. Stay mad and completely unfuckable listening to the LOSING group of men. At least have the decency to listen to men who know what they're doing. I'll never get over incels telling me what I want or even what men want. What truth does not feel good? We're not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:44 PM
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By your ridiculous standards I would be considered a whore because I have sex like a functioning human that happens to enjoy sex. I said I have no trouble finding men who like me and want to date me. I don't give a shit if they don't. Who the fuck is saying they don't have the right to say no or I would give a shit if they tell me no? Wtf are you talking about? Who's also saying men love them? What a dumbass way to change your original stance of nobody likes them. And yeah I've had plenty of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:07 AM
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And fun fact if you can work two brain cells for 10 seconds. Any argument that makes an absolute statement like nobody or all is the dumbest one to make. One singular example blows your entire premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:58 PM
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Yeah cuz change implies you're capable of learning and growing as a human. I don't care if you're drowning in pussy. The entire point of this discussion is that you said no one likes whores. You're wrong and your terms are horribly undefined. Take the L and move on. Your cult of desperation doesn't represent men, you're a fringe on the internet that I'll never interact with because you'd never talk to me like a normal person and I wouldn't notice you exist. Men are fucking awesome. Little bitch …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:53 PM
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Hahahaha the idea that you can affect my ego is the cutest thing you ever said. I don't think a man who rejects certain women (which guaranteed has never actually been tested because they don't approach you) is a loser. A man who thinks his narrow viewpoint represents every man has the critical thinking skills of a potato. I don't care about you, I responded to "nobody likes whores". Wanna talk about getting in your feelings, that was your response to emotional tampon? How about you answer - are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:02 PM
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It's incredibly cute that you think I'd even get curious about your dick. Even cuter that you think whatever helps you sleep at night means anything other than I have no meaningful contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:44 PM
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No man likes whores - let's thank the lord that you don't speak for men because we'd all be doomed. But ya bro let's pretend you're turning down whores or anyone is wanting your bitter ass. No women like weaklings- are you 12? Wtf is a weakling? Wtf is a whore? I'm sure by your definition of negative n count you would think I'm a massive whore and yet there will never be a situation where one of you is turning me down or I'm approaching a bird brain. Tell me they only want me for sex and I'll la…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:25 PM
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Ah the genius commentary I love and expect from pathetic losers that actually know what it's like to have no one like you. Can't relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:39 PM
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HAHAHAHA emotional tampon when men like this have the emotional intelligence of a spoon? This made my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:03 PM
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Different rules for different men - I'm struggling to see why that's even a problem. If I only wanna fuck a guy I don't wanna waste my time getting to know them and it doesn't have to mean anything. If I'm emotionally invested in the dude I wanna know that he's feeling the same way so I don't get fucked over. Sex isn't a prize and no one owes you shit, a fucking prostitute can turn down a paying client. This entire thread is a circle jerk. Dude decided to go with her ridiculous standards, why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:26 PM
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What does "another guy corrupting them when I wish I was" mean exactly? What is corrupting to you? Your type is a cute girl with a perfect Instagram? I think a good place for you to start is to actually reevaluate how you view women, not as something for you, but individual human people. Also you're 28, for the love of God please call them women and not girls.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/22 02:05 AM
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Unhinged is the perfect word here. What actual reality are these guys living in?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:50 AM
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Huh? Since the beginning of man, groupthink served the group and kept people alive. People arriving at the same conclusion is not new. Again, religion does the same thing. Throughout my life I've had far more exposure to religion than I ever have the media so I'm not sure what you're on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:12 AM
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I can get behind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:53 AM
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How on earth is that manipulation? Maybe they see eye to eye simply because religion is taken out of the equation. You're also naming feminist men who are not at all controversial and care about women. To say they agree with every person is missing the fact that they're public figures and the things they say are well curated. Do you miss the glaringly obvious in religious people as well? They all believe exactly the same thing - they have to by design.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:28 PM
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This is what I mean when I say men here tell us what we want and don't listen to what we say. You're assuming I would feel bad for fucking a dude just because he's hot. Why would I feel bad about that if that were the case? I didn't even say that I wouldn't just that it hasn't been the main factor in what drew me in. I do enjoy flings for what they are but I'm not having flings with men I'm not enjoying conversation and laughing with. Even my one night stands happen after many hours of chilling …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:14 AM
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Yeah I'm just talking about predisposition to violence and domestic abuse etc. A woman is killed by her partner at alarming rates, they're hardly all incels. Incel violence is definitely its own category but I'm not surprised to hear about the racism and hatred. Bigots of any kind tend to hold negative beliefs about multiple groups, it's just part of the fractured way they see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:52 PM
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I have to agree with women don't owe you shit but I'd equally agree that men don't owe us anything. The idea of women not owing men something is in direct relation to sex like when men pay for a dinner and feel entitled to sex for it. No one is owed anything but we want people who choose us and behave in certain ways. Selectivity is not entitlement and wanting things for reasons other than "deserving it" isn't a bad thing is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:24 PM
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Yeah people can be a bit extreme but the manosphere can be pretty extreme to begin with. I've never been motivated by looks, money or status. I'm not naive enough to think they don't play some unconscious part but I have never had the conscious moment that linked attraction to any of them. Yet within the manosphere I'm constantly told what I like and what I want even if it doesn't align with my reality. It's definitely okay to care about your needs and to want sex as long as it doesn't go into e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:12 PM
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If you personally identify with the group but you are not blaming women and you're not positioning sex with women as something you're entitled to then I apologize for grouping you in. My disgust is directed entirely at those who blame me. If your mindset isn't limited by that view, can I ask what you get from being part of that group? That aside, I don't accept the premise that they're not enough of a common problem because there are other more common ways to die. I'm also not thrilled about tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:56 PM
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Fair enough and I don't doubt that there are many reasonable ones among them, but groups are often represented by their loudest members. You're right that I'm assuming an ideology but a group with shared "enemies" using common language and similar reasoning is sharing an ideology whether or not individual members are also part of other groups. Forgive me if I don't have a lot of patience for emerging threats to women's safety as if we didn't have enough to worry about. I'm sure there are just me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:33 PM
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And? Getting into a car is a risk I willingly take. This is not a bias in perception. It is increasing over time. That's a fact. I wish I knew what the solution was. As it stands, closely monitoring those communities is a great start and I'm glad that's happening but I wish I had better answers. As a women, I really don't need more reasons to be afraid but unfortunately here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:24 PM
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You're missing the point. These people cited being incels as the cause of their rage. Being an incel is directly correlated to them being a murderer. As women are the source of the rage, they are necessarily in danger but their anger also spreads to men and society at large. Hence why them being a threat is not limited to women. Murderers are constrained by opportunity and time. I'm sure we would see a lot more deaths outside of those factors when maybe they could afford to be more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:21 PM
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Once someone is on a killing spree and starts shooting, they're not selective. That ratio simply indicates that there were more men around. Another incel in Toronto rammed his van into a group of people. Hard to be specific in that case. The reason they're a threat is that their prevalence is increasing. There are more attacks and attempts as the ideology spread. To say it is not a threat to women and society at large is to say those who died didn't count. A group premised on the idea that they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:11 PM
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Theres been at least 10 mass murders tied to incels with many more being stopped before they were carried out. Not every single person in the group is a threat, but there's no doubt their ideology is hateful and can easily result in escalation. The specific people are easy to look up but they are essentially the ones with the victimhood complex and they're punishing everyone they're blaming for their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:00 PM
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This is an identifiable trend that is increasing in frequency. While there are bad actors in every group, these murders were largely applauded in incel communities - also documented. I've seen interviews with perpetrators that reference incel ideology and point to other perpetrators in the group as their inspiration. Young men without sex are distinct from young men without sex that blame women for their problems. Incel communities are largely composed of the latter. It would be a lie to pretend…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:56 PM
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What is delusionary about mass shooters or violent perpetrators being a threat to our existence? The irony of blaming a victimhood complex to defend incels is mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:24 PM
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Their motivation is not sex, it's rage. It's related to sex, but it's pure unbridled hate-fueled rage by that point and is expressed accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:58 PM
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It's a group that openly hates women. That's a good place of bitterness to start if you're gonna end up as a mass shooter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:14 PM
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Then yes, definitely a distinction between the two. I don't even know if most blackpillers start out in TRP but in my eyes TRP focuses primarily on men being the best version of themselves and while the group is filled with misogynysts, most of the ideas themselves are not horrible. Same with FDS. Not every idea is great, and the group is filled with misandrists but most of the ideas are not bad. That being said, I question my sanity all the time so maybe you're onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:40 PM
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Remind me what blackpill is again? I'm thinking it's the incels but I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:31 PM
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I mean maybe but which one is more likely to kill the other? As a group they're probably more militant but I'd argue that the worst of RP is far worse than the worst of FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:25 PM
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It depends where. Bar or parties, very often. Grocery store, not as often but still every once in a while. Approached far more often when I'm alone like reading in a coffee shop and slightly less so if I'm clearly busy. Most of the time I don't care and sometimes it's even flattering. I strongly dislike it when it's straight sexual or something about my body from the start and I especially don't like it when they don't stop once I've said I'm not interested. It's annoying as fuck when men approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:12 PM
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"Y the Last Man" is an awesome comic series that deals with a similar premise but he's the only one left. I think it's being adapted for Disney + as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:01 PM
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Freedom of speech as an enshrined right directly relates to the government. It's not just criticizing the government, but the right is that the government cannot take it away from you. It absolutely does not include talking to random people on the street. That is not a right it's just a thing people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:59 PM
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I don't know if I'm your target audience because I don't agree with every single thing in FDS but I definitely agree with far more than I disagree with. I have a ton of respect and admiration for a lot of men. Do you want specifics to men in our lives or public figures? In my life I have an incredibly high opinion of my father, my brother, all my cousins (big family), many male colleagues, a few male friends and the majority of my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:43 PM
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It's interesting that you say that because I definitely have the same feeling like I could be good friends with someone who holds RP views but isn't obsessed with it. When it comes to RP, I only take issue with purposeful manipulation but it seems like the general point is for men to be the best version of themselves and not place too much stock in women they're just meeting and I can't see any fault with that. I find most things in FDS make perfect sense if the aim is a LTR. I don't have to see…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:37 PM
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They shouldn't have to. Conscription is a horrible and antiquated practice that has no place in the world today. If a nation values its citizens and a military is well incentived and supported, there will be volunteers. At the end of the day, it will still be largely composed of men (front line combat) but it will be those who are there willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:03 AM
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SSRI abusers? LMAO - do you actually think SSRI medications have some recreational value?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:18 PM
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There is a net benefit to society that you seem to be missing. The country is defended by the men now and the women are insurance that the country will have a future. Women are historically the ones taking care of children, the future of the country is fucked if you take that away. Are the men fighting personally benefited? It depends. Some will say yes if it means their children will thrive even if they die, many won't. Many of these surviving women with children will lose their husband and lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:53 PM
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If moths are attracted to lightbulbs then by definition it is attracting them. It's not the primary function of the bulb and it's not an intended effect but it still happens. Just by being there. Still attracting them. Luckily we're people and not moths and lightbulbs so we can account for some nuance and context. Looking at your profile it's obvious you're just trying to be inflammatory but at least do so in a way that's less redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:19 PM
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Social anxiety is hard to deal with, i completely get it but you're obviously a decent guy and if anyone doesn't like that about you, they're the problem, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:33 PM
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You're probably a younger guy, don't let the hateful shit you see here pollute your mind. Men and women are great. Men and women can be shitty. That's life. I can guarantee that all these formulas and nonsense these guys are talking about don't actually help them with women. They just like to tell us what we want and what we mean and how we think instead of actually listening to us and then they complain that they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:18 PM
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But she didn't call you anything. Saying if you don't see that makes you something isn't saying you are the thing. If someone called me a bitch for agreeing with something shitty, then I'm kind of being a bitch. Doesn't mean I'm always a bitch but in this particular case I'm being a bitch. You seem to not hate women and want genuine dialogue so I'm trying to give that to you. You're taking advice from the wrong people and ignoring the good ones. She just gave you a list of how not to act. Her an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:03 PM
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She said "if you can't see that, then congrats you're one of the nice guys". The first part of that is important and that's not an insult. If you agree with the assholes you're probably an asshole. If you don't agree with them you're probably not an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:56 AM
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She wasn't rude to you at all. She said that many of the responses here are from guys that fit into the fake nice guy group. There are, I just read so many of them. She said IF you can't see that, you're one of them which I have to agree with. If you respect women then you're not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:51 AM
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If someone thinks a genuinely decent person is a problem, they're not likely a very decent person themselves. Most decent people like decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:47 AM
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"Broaden your mind or keep getting brainwashed" - the irony of that is unreal. There are tons of rude as hell replies that you're agreeing with and a woman mentions that and you take it as an attack? A group of single guys that clearly hate women should not be where you get advice about women. We are not confusing the terms, YOU are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:42 AM
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I see you taking the advice of men in these comments and being combative with the women genuinely answering your question. They're not doing mental gymnastics, that's a ridiculous bitter assertion. Nice guys in the group you're referring to specifically applies to a certain type of guy. That's a subreddit. In reality those guys are not nice, so they actually don't fall into the nice category. There's no confusion between actually nice people and people who expect sex for being nice for five minu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:27 AM
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The player douchebag types are more likely to approach so confirmation bias plays a huge factor here. They are also more likely to make their intentions clear from the start vs. friendly encounter so it may seem as if they're the main ones attracted. While most guys certainly don't fall into that category, they are severely over represented in the types of men to approach or send explicit messages. They don't care about rejection and they're going for quantity so it stands to reason that most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:17 AM
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She'd still have to attract them...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:10 AM
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It's definitely an interesting model and worth looking into purely from a theoretical perspective. Anecdotally, my parents weren't arranged (something similar but they knew each other from the community when my dad proposed through the cultural channels) but they were alone for the first time after they were married. They barely spoke beforehand. 40 years later and they're still incredibly happy and very much in love. That definitely developed over time. My problem is more with arranged marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:00 PM
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Yeah I agree with your general premise, but my aim isn't to weaken marriage. Arranged marriages exist in cultures that don't afford women the rights and protections that having the ability to leave allows. Society putting the vows before safety and agency is a problem. There are plenty of great arranged marriages but there are also plenty of horrible ones. We're defining success differently. I don't call being stuck in a horrible or abusive marriage a success by any means. If you disagree with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:05 PM
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The opportunity to divorce and the consequences are nowhere near that of western society. Aside from having the financial independence, a divorce brings shame to a family and a single woman or a divorced woman of a certain age is seen as a problem. And let's not discount the importance of financial independence in making a decision to leave a marriage. As to your point of the possibility that actions can precede the feeling, of course it can and it often does but that's not evidenced by the "suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:17 PM
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In most cultures that enforce arranged marriage, divorce is a nuclear option and has incredibly negative consequences on the chance they're even allowed to get one. Women tend to have less agency as a whole, they're less likely to be financially independent and domestic assault is rampant. Let's not pretend these marriages are working better because they're in love, they've just separated love from marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:47 PM
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Is your argument that we don't know something so we should make an incorrect assumption not supported by the very data we're using to make said assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:51 PM
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What I'm doing is actually called knowing how to properly read and interpret a study. The cold hard data you're reading lists these limitations. Conjecture is what you're doing. Badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:45 PM
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"It is important to note, however, that neither of these studies recruited representative samples of women, so we cannot know if these percentages are accurate for women in general." From the above study. Also, the study notes most women believe it is moderately to extremely unacceptable. And university studies like this tend to be based on university students and they're highly recruited from first year classes which tend to have the largest numbers of students per class. I don't know how old y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:17 PM
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I don't understand - do you think we can't afford food and this date is what's standing between us and starvation? Do you think we don't have our own food? Everytime I see this comment it baffles my mind. If a man thinks I'm hungry and desperate enough for food that I'd go through the hassle of getting ready and meeting and spending time with a stranger, they should consider it charity at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:10 PM
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Nah, it turns me on.
/r/seduction12/01/22 04:28 PM
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