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vogel777/r/MensRights27/08/20 10:34 AM
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no I didn't misinterpret, what next? So many women abused, beaten, raped and murdered by men, is that just a misinterpretation too? And all that asshole can do is feel sorry for himself? Why even reply if all you're going to post is that snivelling, pathetic wet fart of a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:39 AM
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“Men are less violent toward women than ever, and there are institutions protecting women. All legal institutions implicitly agree women are more likely to be victims rather than perpetrators.” What a piece of shit you are op, are you even capable of understanding what you have written or its implication? I seriously doubt it. Men are less violent towards women that ever and women now have some protections which they must fight to maintain all the time. Men are still violent towards women though…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 01:43 AM
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That is literally just semantics, your argument does not stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:16 PM
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I don't agree, typically women handle emotions better, even if they express them in the moment, they process them better than men do. Men also engage more widely in self harming behaviours like addictions to alcohol, drugs, gambling, porn addiction, they are also more likely to be engaged in crime, be prison, die through misadventure, they neglect themselves and do not seek medical attention when required, these are all forms of serious self harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:30 AM
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Confusion in emotions, Self harming. Funny I find that men tend to display these characteristics more frequently so I would put these down as masculine qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:01 AM
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It's not just dating apps it's technology in general. A lot of young men just sit home in front of a screen for a variety of reasons, gaming, porn, reddit, netflix, general surfing and social media. This affects women to some extent too meaning we are all more likely to just stay home. For example years ago I used to go out a couple of nights a week to take evening classes in things like art, astronomy, languages at the local university. Now these classes have either stopped or moved online. Far…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:56 AM
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That's why you should always wear casual condom, no excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:51 PM
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It's just that old trope, women are just supposed to absorb men's hatred and anger towards them and then kiss their emotional boo boos better in to the bargain, we're socialised to do this. The thing is on here even if you are nice, the men of ppd will just call you a whore and a liar, it actually invites more of their hatred towards you if they sense your niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:35 PM
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Well at least your not running crying to mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:29 PM
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I just want them to stop bring such pathetic assholes, I don't actually want to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:28 PM
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It's just so weak and catty though, they are such hateful assholes but I didn't report them, they just probably cry at my replies and go crying to mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:10 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:04 PM
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I'm glad someone else sees it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:03 PM
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Yeah just the other day some psychopath posted an angry rant that women had no right to have the standards they did and that they were narcissists for thinking they could exclude men i.e. him. I replied saying how he had no right to say what anyone's standards or boundaries should be and some other guy jumped on saying how I shouldn't be mean to him, he was obviously hurting and I should be kind, like wtf? Be kind while he shits on women for having autonomy? It really boils my piss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:03 PM
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That's men for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:43 PM
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That moron deserved that but he hasn't reported me...yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:38 PM
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How about no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:36 PM
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How many times are you guys gonna post this same tired old shit, we get you don't like it but its doesn't make a blind bit of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:36 PM
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Well it's very hard to feel anything but merciless disgust for the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:33 PM
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The guys here are so weak and pathetic, reporting my posts for not being civil or saying "be kind" to the menz, he's lonely and hurting when this is essentially a thinly veiled hate sub towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:20 PM
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No I saw what you did and it was weak and didn't achieve a thing, now don't you have a shitty dildo to be sucking on?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:17 PM
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This is so fucking weak and childish, either you are a child or you have brain damage. At least I don't have to be concerned about you passing on your genetic defects to children because no woman would let you anywhere near them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:38 PM
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Nope, time to oil your hamster wheel you loser and learn to take some accountability, oh sorry you men don't even understand the concept of that and prefer your escapist victimisation fantasy to reality. Well tough shit, you put your dick in her that's where your choice ends and I don't give a fuck if you think it's unjust, it isn't so fucking grow a ball hair and accept that you impregnate her you pay. It's truly pathetic that you guys bitch and moan about this like your being fucking skinned a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:37 PM
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Don't talk shit, I don't know a single woman like that. This is a male fantasy, at best women play along to massage the guys ego but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:23 PM
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False, no I don't want to be dominated, I want an equal partner and that's what I have. Men who try to dominate me or control me are an automatic turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:25 PM
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None, its over for you man😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:22 PM
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If a guy doesn't have the balls to approach then he deserves to be an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:21 PM
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No of course not, women have a choice over termination because pregnancy, childbirth and childrearing is a far greater burden on women than on men. By comparison men only have to contribute a bit of seman and a few measly dollars. There is zero comparison and don't try crying that men don't get a choice, your choice ends when you put your dick in a womans pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:16 PM
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This is pathetic bullshit, if you put your dick in a woman then there is always a chance of pregnancy. Men know in advance of that risk, and they know about child support so no excuses. Wear an extra strong condom even if the woman is on thr pill and even then there is no risk free sex men know this and so baby trapping is impossible. The only way to protect yourself from unwanted pregnancy is to abstain. So take some responsibility for your actions and stop spinning that hamster wheel 🐹
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:28 AM
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Yeah this isn't a thing at all, I'm not 21 anymore but I still can't go to the supermarket or library without men trying to hit on me even though I have a wedding ring on. I'd prefer it if it stopped to be honest because I don't need the validation of men finding me attractive. Anyway this post is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to try and make older women feel bad, sorry it isn't working. I also hate break the bad news to you but most men look like shit by 30 but men tend to be delusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:57 AM
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It depends but I he's 32 and she is early 20s or younger then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:50 PM
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Older women are not shaming younger women they are just older and wiser and have been their and know what your in for with these men, you'd do well to listen to them. Jealousy is nothing to do with it, its the older men they shame not the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:38 PM
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Keep telling yourself that kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:55 PM
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I think women would prefer to be alone than to breach some standards. If you did get a woman who met your current current low, desperate standards would you loss attraction to her once you'd slept with her for a while or do you think you'd stay attracted to her or fall in love with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:54 PM
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Of course the US did it they've been telling us they were going to do it since February anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. Fuck Russia, Fuck Nato and Fuck the USA, warmongers the lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:51 PM
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I don't want to be used by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:49 PM
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Not my problem 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:42 PM
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Guys who buy women like this don't care about exploitation, they don't even see women as human, just a hole and a domestic utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:40 PM
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No it's totally pathetic and cowardly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:39 PM
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This, no violence at all, no disrespect. If you are getting access to my body you had better respect it and my wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:31 PM
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Well don't be a dick, be a decent human being and not a peice of shit by lying aboutvyour intentions, it's not a trap its just about respect if you can't do that or you don't think women deserve that then you don't deserve a womans time or body.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:28 PM
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Yep, this says it all, women if they are prepared to be single can hold out for Brad Pitt if they like and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:33 PM
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Nope, I've seen your post history and you are a peice of shit who doesn't see women as human. I'm not some naive, insecure woman who needs validation, I see right through you and you disgust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:23 PM
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No in this context you are a peice of shit and you lose your humanity and decency. I also doubt you are showing any woman a "good time" you admit you are a narcissistic and openly compare yourself to Ted Bundy, you probably belong on a police register. So no you lose sicko.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:16 PM
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Purile and fucking weak ass response, pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:09 PM
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Yes, it's a schizophrenic rant, I personally don't dehumanise people as you have just done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:01 PM
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Naked men don't automatically turn me on even if I'm attracted to them. As a straight woman I do find men sexually attractive but it's not just a case of see it = sexual response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:10 PM
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You are only appealing to women with low self esteem, who are desperate for validation and they see your approach as validation. I wouldn't take this as a sign of attraction to you, because they are motivated by poor self image as opposed to genuine attraction to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:59 AM
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No red pill doesn't work, at best it might attract damaged, fucked up women. If your using red pill to pick up women then you're probably a damaged, fucked up man and you'll deserve each other and the misery you cause each other. No sane, healthy, stable and intelligent woman if falling fir that shit in a bar or anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:45 AM
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Nice, yet another man who doesn't see women as human but rather as just a thing for men to use. I couldn't care less about losing access to the men who would use prostitutes because those men are pieces of shit no woman would want anyway. I do care about the exploitation of women though. "then she has to court him if she wants a relationship. Any sexual rejection and he can just say "well if you're not interested I'll get my dick wet at the brothel" Lmfao that you think this would work to make w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:31 AM
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This is because many men dehumanise women and see them as a utility to provide sex, comfort and domestic labour. When a woman becomes seriously ill men like this don't think of their wife they just think, oh no the wife bot is busted, time for a new one. If men saw their wives as people and loved them for who they were not what they did fir them this wouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:29 AM
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No because the men here have failed with women for a variety of self inflicted reasons but rather than take responsibility and be accountable for those failures they blame women, hate on them and invent stories about women's motivations. Asking men on here about women will just get you a diatribe of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:24 AM
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So you think women should act as though they are in prison, with no personal freedom, no options just so they might consider a relationship with you, oh sorry a man they don't find attractive or likeable? Well this is yet another hideous, misogynistic and laughable train of thought from the men here. Do you even see what your saying OP? Either this is a shit posters or you need psychological help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:35 PM
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Well if you lie about that your a peice of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:09 PM
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Don't even think about having a kid until you can successfully handle the responsibility of a serious, committed relationship. If you can't handle that you can't handle kids. As others have said having children isn't some selfless act that shows what a great and mature person you are it's ultimately a selfish thing to do, YOU do to make YOUR life meaningful. It's often something people fall back on for meaning or as a way to change their lives when other things have failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:44 AM
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So like this is one video and a few people you say you know 🤔, thats meaningless op. What about all the extra care and support many single women give their families and friends, that's a far more common situation in my experience, but of course women's contributions are rarely valued until they are withdrawn. However don't let reality interfere with your sexist hate fantasy about how women without a man are just a drag and a drain on male relatives just don't expect women to fall for your pathet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:24 AM
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Women do approach but it's more like they give the guy the go ahead. Autistic guys round here don't get those cues and are probably not being selected anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:14 AM
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There is an imbalance and it is exploitation. These men use, young, naive girls for sex, its vile, predatory behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:05 AM
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Yeah there is no misunderstanding, all the bitching and whining on here is from men who only want highly attractive women. Men don't have to lower their standards they can want what they want but they should be happy to be alone if they can't get that and quit hating on women just because women who are qay, way out of there league reject or don't notice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:59 PM
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Did you even read the OP? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:52 AM
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"I have to make her laugh, witty banter with her, ask her out on a date, logistically plan the date, pay for the date, ask her out on a second date and so on . I have to break the touch barrier. That burden is on me. I have initiate the hugging, hand holding, kissing, making out and sex. If I fail to do so, in a limited window of time of usually a couple of dates, I 100 percent wake up to a text message saying "you're a great guy, but I'm just not feeling it is all." That window of time is real.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:47 AM
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Lol you really know nothing, I'm from a religious traditional background and some of these women can't even open up enough to have sex, nevermind enjoy it. One girl I was at school with had to have her marriage anulled because her pussy wouldn't let her husbands cock in and another apparently repeated "hurry up, hurry up, hurry up" to her husband every time fucked her. More to the point though none of these trad virgins will be available to you when you're done partying and fucking the kind of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:54 PM
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So some guy who has been caining it for 10 years, partying, travelling, fucking as many women as he can is then going to settle down at 30 with Mabel, she's 24 and never been kissed. Nobody has ever even asked her out maybe its because she's very religious, doesn't drink and spends her Saturday nights sitting in with her elderly mother watching TV, maybe it's because she has a turn in her eye and speaks with a lisp. She loves baking cookies (and eating them, you don't mind a "curvy" girl do you)…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:38 PM
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Well there does actually seem to be a correlation between sexlessness and misogynistic views, there was a study about it recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:00 PM
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No it's a real power imbalance when it's someone of 21 with someone of 32, that's a huge age gap when you take things like brain development in to account. It's the same regardless of gender, I know a woman who was 35 and dated a 21 year old boy, she was predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:32 PM
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I really don’t see how women in general are entitled, everyone is free to want what they want in relationships and partners assuming everyone is age appropriate. If a woman find a man who meets her standards and he wants her then great, if she doesn’t then she is single, that’s fine too. You are under no obligation to date anyone or do anything you don’t want to do, so what’s it to you if a woman you think is fat, ugly or expecting too much finds someone shes happy with and he’s happy with her, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:00 AM
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Why not both, probably more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:39 AM
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I just react to the batshit or straight up pathetic stuff men post here, I don’t think I meet these men irl because they are all locked in a basement somewhere with only a crusty sock for company and never see daylight. I think they all live in a fantasy world and have no grasp on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:37 AM
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Is this really what you’re mad about? Don’t you have any real problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:16 AM
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🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:57 AM
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You don’t have that much power, but I see your delusional, I bet in 10 years you will have a very fat wife, and you will be even fatter yourself 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:55 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:52 AM
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I say Fat people, that’s people of both sexes, can’t you read? Any man can reject any woman for any reason he likes and nobody will say a thing, you are paranoid if you think otherwise, just like women are free to reject you for being an idiot, doubtful if any woman will want you but perhaps your still just an ignorant child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:44 AM
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Well no there is actually medical research to back this up for fat men and women but of course you just want to hate on women any which way you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:41 AM
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Pathetic op, you want to roast women but then expect them to just flutter their eyelashes at you, no. You remind me of a guy who told me I wasn’t required to be funny because I was pretty, he thought he was flirting with me, I thought he was an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:37 AM
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Keep telling yourself that, women know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:34 AM
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“ Attraction comes down to whether she thinks you’re above her level. Status is a way to portray this. Money is as well. And so is being playfully abhorrent. There needs to be a sense of arrogance in the way you talk but not in a way where it feels like you’re hurt by the woman, but rather in a way that’s dominant and confident.” ​ This sounds grim, so no, just no. You don’t know what you are talking about, I’m very glad my husband didn’t take flirting tips from you or I’d have given him the bru…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:24 AM
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No fat people, fat men never lose weight either. Fat people stay fat regardless of sex. If women have been more proactive in campaigning for better representation then good for them, men should set up their own campaigns If they want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:09 AM
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No not really the person with power and money, the man is exploiting the woman. He is morally repugnant, she is a victim of patriarchy and exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:04 AM
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Your sister is entitled to reject men she doesn’t want fat or not, that might mean she never gets a husband, so what that’s her business and fuck all to do with you. The body positivity movement isn’t about saying fat is good or to encourage fatness or to say anyone should be attracted to fatness it’s about encouraging fat people to find some self acceptance. Most fat people will always be fat and will never lose weight and if they do they will just regain in usually and then some. Research has …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:56 AM
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"Agreed, although on a case-by-case basis, I wonder if some women's delusional daytime worries about maybe or maybe not getting truly harassed affect society as greatly as the mental state of men who are very palpably alone, long-term" There is unfortunately no maybe or delusion about it only a man would think that was the case and make light of it. The OP is literally a man saying how much he would love to get the attention women get and by extention that women shouldn't complain about the atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:31 AM
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Let's see your art then, message me your Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:15 AM
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Lol, you again with your "art career" 😂, hate to break it to you op but picking your nose and wiping it on the wall or arranging your crusty wank socks around the bed doesn't qualify as art. Stop using this sub as your personal problem page, get some real help and stop being a parasite on your poor grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:10 AM
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Guy in my street got leg lengthening surgery, it was really painful and didn't really work that well and basically fucked him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:03 AM
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It is creepy and morally repugnant to be a sugar daddy, a sugar daddy is just a john, a punter who exploits young women for sex. I agree that "sugar babies" are prostitutes, most prostitutes are vulnerable women trying to find the means to survive and horrible abusive men take advantage of those women and exploit them to get access to their bodies like they are buying a burger. Those men and all men who use prostitutes are despicable and should be places on a police register or if they are repea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:58 PM
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Well money could potentially be used as a way to control a less wealthy partner that would be financial abuse and financial abuse could be considered criminal offence if it is deemed coercive control. However in most cases if a couple are in an age appropriate relationship and financial abuse isn't taking place then a discrepancy in earnings shouldn't be a problem. This happens all the time, a woman on maternity leave relying on her husband, or a man doing his masters while his girlfriend pays t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:47 PM
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Well why are you wasting your and my time posting then, I literally say above about it depending on age appropriateness 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:13 PM
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Maybe you should seek therapy to end your toxic relationship patterns? Maybe all those 1000s and 1000s of women who've been murdered by men in sexually motivated violence can also seek therapy? Oh that's right, they can't, their dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:11 PM
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Well it does actually, a 28 or 30 year old going after a 19 or even 22 year old is predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:07 PM
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Don't be pathetic, your not entitled to anything from anyone, you don't get a cookie for being a "nice guy". Your sense of entitlement stinks, not harassing other people should be baseline standard human decency. Your lonely well that's not on the same level as bring harrased and made to feel afraid in the street in broad daylight. Being a good man is baseline but it doesn't entitle you to love or a woman's body or labour and the fact that you feel aggrieved that it doesn't shows your not such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:06 PM
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Being accused of something you didn't do would be awful but there is no coming back from being murdered and rape fucks your life up, your health, can ruin your relationships, you could get an std, even a life limiting one, you could get pregnant with your rapists child and be left with the choice of murdering your baby or giving birth to your rapists child. If a man beats you or throws acid on you your deformed for life, maybe blinded, nobody wants you, you can't hold down a job etc. And this mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:58 PM
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Well it depends if he can find a virgin or someone approximately their own age fine but if they think being sexually inexperienced makes them entitled to a much younger girl then he's a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:36 PM
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Safe to say I have more authority on what women want than you do and most women hate sexual attention from men when they are just going about their daily business.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:19 PM
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Great for guys but please leave us women alone, we don't want or need your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:51 PM
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I'm not threatening you with rape, don't be fucking ridiculous. I'm saying that to understand how women view attention from men you have to factor in the threat of rape and violence. But I don't think you have the capacity to have any empathy for women, you think they should feel lucky to get harrased and then you expect women to care that nobody even notices you, don't make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:49 PM
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No the implication is the same, if a man grabs my ass on the subway, it's not validation, it assult and if he's prepared to assult me in a public place who is to say he won't rape me given the opportunity, the op is idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:43 PM
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But neither Chad nor women want to be friends with losers, so I guess you're fucked either way 🤷 Also we may be closely related to chimps but we are not chimps, well you might be but last I checked I was a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:35 PM
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Well tough shit because you cannot compare a woman feeling you up to a man doing it, you could easily get away from a woman if you wanted to so the only way for you to understand how it feels for women is for you to be molested by a man twice your size, twice as strong as you, who doesn't see you as a person but as an object to be used for his pleasure. That's the only compartment that is legitimate to make. Honestly op you are disgusting, your parents must be so disappointed in you for turning …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:22 PM
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OP is obviously a fucked up creep who women will never find attractive, he needs to check himself into a facility or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:17 PM
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Well then you shouldn't have any problem being raped by a man then, good luck with that I'm sure you'll find someone here happy to oblige.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:15 PM
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No this is a discussion about attention from the opposite sex and yes stats do matter. If I get raped or murdered it will be by a man, if you get raped or murdered it will also be by a man but hey at least you'll have your precious attention and validation then so at least you'll die happy. Honestly just when I thought the men here could get any more stupid or disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:13 PM
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The OP literally implied he'd be ok with being forcefully molested by a hideous woman and then by extention you and he think that women should be grateful for the unwanted harrasment and abuse the receive from men. What next, should we be grateful when we get raped and beaten because its a form of validation? Do you think being ignored is worse than rape? I've seen men online claim this that women rejecting them is "reverse rape" and more traumatic to them than actual rape is to women. All this …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:08 PM
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Your being disingenuous here, just look at the stats on male violence towards women and vice versa, they are incomparable. Honestly the men here are truly repugnant to say this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:02 PM
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The thing is that women are no threat to you, a man is a threat to me. What if it were an obese, ugly, smelly woman who pressed her damp gusset against your leg? Would you like that? However its not about looks it's about harrasment and the physical threat men hold over women and how they use that to threaten us and get their jollies off us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:55 PM
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It's a pain in the ass to be constantly harrased as you go about your day minding your own business by men trying to get you to go out with them or talk to them. Sometimes it's even frightening. How would you enjoy a man who was twice your size pressing his erect penis into your back on the subway? Or what about if men followed you as you made your way home for a block and a half while making comments about what they would like to do to your ass? What if you got into the swimming pool and men ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:44 PM
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Honestly you can do what you want why do you need our approval? It's misogynistic when it's used as a stick to beat women with, why else would it be posted about on here every 5 minutes? It's an attempt to shame women into compliance. It also depends on your age, how experienced you are etc. If you are a 17 year old virgin who wants to meet a nice girl at church and save yourselves for marriage then fine, if your a 30 year old guy who feels entitled to a young virgin that's misogynistic. Ultimat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:14 AM
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Women want men who will be good partners, unfortunately many men are lazy and entitled and expect women to do all the work in relationships, no wonder so many women are passing on looking after a man baby. If men want relationships with women they will have to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:06 AM
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Boo hoo, women's standard exclude me, therefore women are all superficial sluts, that's what you sound like to me and it's a pathetic sound indeed. Chad = any man who isn't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:01 AM
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Women are more discerning than men, they have to be because they are more vulnerable to male violence and abuse. Many men also make poor partners because patriarchal society raises them with extreme entitlement to women's bodies and labour, while regarding them ad less than human. Women want men who are looking for a partner, not a mammy they can ride, or a slave so they need to be careful to weed out men with backwards views and men who are likely to be a liability to them because of things lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:55 AM
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OP so you've watched a couple of JBP videos on YouTube and now think your an expert on Jung eh? lol 😆 Red pill men are angry because they feel hard done by, they have a huge sense of entitlement and when they fail in life they cannot cope and seek anyone and everything to blame but themselves, especially women but it's also other men and society in general. Allow that I'd easier and more comfortable than taking responsibility for their own failures and inadequacy. The trouble with the red pill a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:32 AM
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Firstly it's not a surprise that op uses the scenario of a woman deciding she is worth because men here love to view women negatively (because it makes them feel better about being rejected no doubt). Also viewing dating as a "marketplace" is also a male conception and a misogynistic one at that. You view it as a marketplace because to you women are objects you seek to obtain and possess, a hole and a domestic comfort provider. Not all men hold this conception but many of the men here do and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:21 AM
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This is yet another post whining about how hard men have it and shitting all over women for just existing. You hate women we get it you feel hard done by because nobody wants to touch your weenie, we get that too. Posting all this changes nothing, it's just you trying to justify why you've been rejected bybwomen without having to take any responsibility for your failure, it will get you nowhere. Start by making an honest assessment of yourself and work on what you can improve and minimise your n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:02 AM
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Men on here do bang on about virgins regardless of what they mean, there was literally a post the other day from a guy who said that having a woman who'd had sex with other men was like having a rag many other men had ejaculated on and that she would never be clean. Now I agree with other posters that men on here who want young inexperienced women are generally insecure, sexless men who are frightened of being compared to other men and frightened of being with women they can't control. It makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:54 AM
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This isn't a men's sub, so I'm perfectly entitled to be here and say what I think. So it's OK for OP to insult women? To call them narcissists? To be angry at them for having the standards and boundaries that they have every right to hold? I'm sorry I have zero sympathy with the OP's infantile post and no sympathy with your assertion that I should just be kind to an asshole that makes angry posts and demands to women, you both need to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:10 AM
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Yes I agree guys here are miserable but rather than be accountable they take thar misery and externalism it looking to blame anyone but themselves, its always women's fault, women need to do this, women shouldn't be allowed to do that, women are worthless, women are evil and so on. It's not me who hates them, they hate women, I'm just here to wake this gut up to the reality of his own short comings and his failure to see them. The sooner he accepts that his situation his his own fault then the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:43 PM
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Weak, very weak. The OP is a self pitying rant. I'm actually trying to help the op, if he has any sense he'll blow his nose and do some honest self examination and stop looking to blame anyone but himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:33 PM
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No, he and others like him want to make women responsible for their unhappiness, he needs to grow up and take responsibility for himself. The OP is literally angry with women for having boundaries and standards that exclude him and calls them narcissists for it. He doesn't need sympathy he needs to grow up and be accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:17 PM
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Philosphical? Don't make me laugh, its a bitter rant that doens't seem to serve any purpose to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:31 PM
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Yeah, lots of them also want prostitution to be legal, they just hate women and see them as a utility to be used for their pleasure and comfort. They don't see women as people and therefore are not worthy of any woman at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:12 PM
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You are assuming that women will agree to sex with men randomly and that's not typically the case, most women are NOT promiscuous. Women might have a couple of boyfriends they sleep with prior to marriage. Your emphasis on purity for women is just another way you seek to oppress women and quite frankly fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:40 PM
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Oh please stop boo-hooing like an infant, what do you want women here to do? Kiss your ouchy better? Grow the fuck up, you're literally on here whining that if only women were as desperate as you someone might want you, that's pretty pitiful op.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:49 PM
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Women can do what they like, ask for what they want and reject whoever they dawn well please for any reason they feel like. Who the hell cares if that makes you mad. Get a chemically castrated if it upsets you that much, nobody else cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:33 PM
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Men typically see dating as a market place because they see women as objects they seek to obtain rather than as fully human individuals like themselves. They assume they hold a certain value and then feel entitled to the woman they believe they are owed as opposed to seeing women as people they should be building relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:35 PM
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Older women doesn't necessarily dislike men as a whole they are just wise to the shitty behaviour and attitudes of men like you and want to protect younger naive women from those men. Those older women don't care if men like you don't want them because they they find men like you repellent, all women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:28 PM
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Nope, this is the thing it isn't a privilege to be watched, stalked and victimised because men want to have sex with you even when you aren't interested, its a form of oppression. If you can't see or understand that and then make light of it then you are clueless about your own privilege and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:07 PM
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OP I think you make a very good point, I think as you say the men who want these young virginal innocent submissive women are weak, insecure men who are absolutely terrified of not measuring up to other men and in most cases know that they don't. Most of them are abusive men who are incapable of being a good partner to anyone and any women with any sense should avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:02 PM
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Well perhaps men need to stop being such pea brained slaves to their dick and not fuck women they have no interest in long term relationships and if they do insist on fucking and using women nothing more than a hole in which to stick their dick then they should wear a condom, an extra strong one, they they buy and put on themselves. They also need to understand that sex is never risk free and that is it is only right that women should have final say on what happens to their bodies if they become…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:58 PM
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I sort of agree that drugs and alcohol are helpful in a highly social, party lifestyle. If you want lots of superficial "friends" that your main utility is as a person to get pissed or high with then drugs and alcohol are the way to go. There may even be career benefits because being ok with drinking heavily and so on might help you fit in to certain (toxic) workplace cultures, if that's your thing. I personally don't drink, do drugs, or smoke / vape. I tried alcohol in my late teens but didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:23 PM
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80/20 stat comes from online dating. This roughly lines up with the ratio of women to men on online dating apps. There just aren't that many woman on apps so the 80/20 statistics bullshit. Men stop being lazy and thinking you can order up a date / sex / girlfriend / wife like you're ordering a pizza. Make some effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:20 AM
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It is gross, especially if you happen to be said younger woman. Men are so delusional about their appeal, lots of men actually believe for example that prostitutes enjoy fucking them 😂 So if you are OK with making a young womans skin crawl, making her feel nausea at the sight of your decrepit old face, because you do look old and decrepit to her then sure their is no law against it. Remember though that before the age of 25 the brain is still developing and so for a 35 to hit on a 22 year old is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:20 PM
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Yeah sure, I'm not a total pussy that is afraid of rejection or making an effort unlike some around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:32 AM
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Women here are just reacting to the vitriol from men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:49 AM
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Well women with phd's are probably not seeking ons, and especially not with men who have such backwards (and thats putting it politely) views on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:43 AM
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Women tell men what they want all the time but men don't want to hear it, they prefer the fairy tales they tell each other about how women really want big strong providers that they can wait on hand and foot. Well ,women want a partner a man who will do his fair share of childcare, domestic labour, who will take on an equitable load of the mental, and emotional labour that being a family entails. A man who doesn't expect her just to be a domestic skivvy but understands that she has dreams and go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:41 AM
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No, women on here say that about the kind of men who post sexist crap, as you have on ppd. In fact saying they can barely get aroused is probably being way too generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:33 AM
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Yep, his porn sickness is so obvious and off putting, and will be to the women he meets in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:01 AM
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Your edits don't matter, that's obviously what you think of women so why not just admit it. You assume your opinion is universal when it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:58 AM
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Yeah sure, most men you know on the internet who like you have porn brain rot and no actual real life contact or opportunities with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:56 AM
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Reported for hate!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:54 AM
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You're 27? Unbelievable and not very flattering for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:53 AM
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But you don't know that your just making assumptions and stating it as fact. You type "hoe" because its faster? Would you use a racial slur because it was faster to type?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:51 AM
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Weak, very weak, what are you 15? Just admit you're clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:48 AM
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This guy knows nothing about women. He watches a shit ton of porn and msinlines the manosphere kool-aid. In his paranoid, porn sick brain normal women are like the women he sees in porn. He's clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:45 AM
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No we don't, and again with the hateful language towards women for just having sex. Your judgement doesn't effect anyone but you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:39 AM
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We don't care what you think, you aren't on our radar sexually or romantically anyway, your opinion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:37 AM
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Again this is just all your paranoid fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:34 AM
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Bullshit, your evidence for this is manosphere hysteria, insecure men, nobody wants anyway obsessing about which women they would reject as if they have even one single women interested in them let alone a range of women from which to choose, it's laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:33 AM
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"the only thing that actually changes as a woman's bodycount increases is the personality of men who will be attracted to her. the more promiscuous a woman is the more feminine and the less confident the men who find her attractive for a relationship will generally be. it won't change how physically attractive the men who go for u r or how rich they are, all it will change is if they have a typical masculine viewpoint on life or not. but most of these women with high bodycounts dont like masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:12 AM
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A PhD might not make a woman more physically attractive but it does make her more marriageable to highly educated men. People especially highly intelligent / educated people prefer to marry more people like them. As commitment is the goal then I'd say that yes a PhD does make you more attractive to the right man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:50 AM
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Oh please, stop making up absolute shit and applying it to every woman and every man, then passing judgement on them as if your imaginary scenario were actually true, its not. You don't know shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:33 AM
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Thus sub is getting worse by the day, I'm reporting the OP for gross misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:42 PM
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Nobody wants to date an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:52 PM
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Sure they do but women are at far, far, far higher risk from men than the other way round and that is an absolute fact. If a woman gets murdered, raped or beaten it's usually a man. If a man gets raped, beaten or murdered it's also usually by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:53 AM
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I'm not going to waste my time trying to change your view because you don't want that you just want a stick with which to bash women. It's not the virgin status that is bad but the conditions that lead to the man still being that way. He probably has serious issues and is likely unpleasant to spend time with. The two are not unlinked, women in general don't want to fuck you because you are in general an unpleasant, unlikeable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:49 AM
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Yeah a lot of the subs he posted are mixed sex as well. OP is just a nasty piece of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:40 AM
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I looked at some of those sub-reddits and didn't see women demanding what you listed above. I'm not that familiar with the FDS sub-editor but I've listened to the podcast a few times and even though they can be mean mostly what I heard was them encouraging woman to have healthy boundaries and basic standards to the treatment they were prepared to accept from men for example one woman was dating a guy who wanted them to sleep in his apartment, turned out he never had a bed, just a pile of clothes…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:56 AM
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"society infantilize grown women" Do we really or do women actually have to be protected from male violence and aggression? Why don't men stop raping, beating and murdering women so that no protection is needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:10 AM
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Sometimes I have no patience with idiots, but I'm not really trying to work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:56 AM
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Exactly but they just keep trotting out this lie over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:53 AM
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"Autisim" Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:50 AM
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Well this is true sort of, I think it's important to have overlapping interests and tastes to some extent. That way you get to enjoy your own thing at times and then you get to enjoy stuff together, I don't think it looks a lot of fun to be one of those couples who hate each others taste in films and music. Also never belittle or laugh at something your partner loves, take pleasure in their enjoyment of it. I don't care for sports but my husband loves them and so I end up knowing more about socc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:47 AM
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Yeah, even Jeffrey Dahmer had guys lining up to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:40 AM
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I can't tell if I'm supposed to be looking at you or the car. I can't really see what you look like in this picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:39 AM
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Sorry to hear that, how awful for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:37 AM
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Well it wasn't just her was it but her drug dealer boyfriend too. Sounds like a very fucked up situation. Why didn't you go to the police at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:36 AM
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I think this must be true as I don't recognised a lot of what is discussed in my own country. Its funny how we watched all those American movies as kids that made it seem like this amazing place but now we can see how fucked up the US is and how messed up American people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:35 AM
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This particular nugget of male entitlement is deeply sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:26 PM
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It's sexist because its OK for them as men to be sexually experienced but not ok for a woman to have had sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:41 PM
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They just like telling us over and over they hate "sluts" and feel entitled to virgins. The laughable part is the bit where they expect us to believe they are actually having sex 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:39 PM
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"non-virgin guys wanting virgin girls" Nah this is ridiculous, other things like height, money, looks etc are a preference that you can want all you like but when you meet the right person then all that goes out the window or it should unless your an idiot with a superficial shopping list but non virgin men expecting virginal women is some sexist shit if I ever heard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:29 PM
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Exactly most of that pressure to man up is from other men who aren't comfortable with your emotional state. Women want guys who do this kind of inner work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:32 PM
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They say this but in my experience I always notice women take longer out of relationships after they end before dating again. I see more men jump right back on the apps or moving in with someone ASAP than women, more women do things like theraetc before dating again. I think men often just don't take time to process their feelings or heal, they expect to just carry on and if they can start dating again they will but they end up repeating the same mistakes over and over again. I suppose this is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:31 PM
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Well in time those will change, we still live in a very male dominated world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:23 AM
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But that’s not what your doing you are just pointing to one big overly simplistic idea and saying ”This is the reason” when it is far more complex than that. These simplistic solutions do more harm than good, they seem to provide straight forward answers but can prevent people from honestly dealing with the issue and it’s manifestation in their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:21 AM
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I personally think it's more complex and idiosyncratic than that, dynamics will vary for the same person depending on which partner they are with. I appreciate what you're trying to say but I think trying to draw these big overarching conclusions is actually a big part of the problem as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:52 AM
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I don't know I get along with my husband just fine, no gaps or mismatches here of any kind. Maybe some people just just bad a choosing the right partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:29 AM
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OP you're too good for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:58 AM
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We all know people who just aren't right, they are weird and creepy and not in a loveable eccentric way but in a " is that guy stalking me" kind of way. While I wouldn't call them losers they probably are beyond help and will likely never be successful in life or love unless it's with another weird, creepy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:55 AM
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It does matter the older person will be exploitation the younger. Brain development isn't complete until 25. 30 and 25 is OK, 30 and 20 isn't. But kero telling yourself your all good to exploit very young people to gey yourself off, I think it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:46 PM
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Lots of people, especially men but women too don't have the interpersonal skills to establish and maintain a long term relationship. They don't know how to listen, how to deal with conflict, their expectations are unrealistic etc. I'm married over 20 years too but some people like many of the men on here will never have a partner because they themselves would make such a poor one. I don't know if it's autism or too much screen time in childhood but something has gone amiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:43 PM
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The only men who care are possessive insecure assholes who are terrified she might have had bigger and better than them. They know they don't measure up to the majority of men and loath the though of being compared by their partner. The worst part is that this insecurity also manifests itself through their whole personality and attitude like you see so often on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:39 PM
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You can’t force a person to have sex they don’t want that is rape even in marriage. Women are just fed up with so many men failing as parents and husbands, if they did more instead of acting like an over grown teenager huffing if he’s given a chore then perhaps women would be down to fuck more often. When you treat us like your mummy that isn’t sexy for us, it kills our desire. A lot of men are dishonest about how much they shirk family and domestic responsibility And think they deserve big prai…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:07 PM
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This is bullshit kids do come first for both parents, that doesn’t mean you let them rule you but they are your priority, if not you’re a shitty parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:58 PM
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How convenient whenever I say anything to some guy with an axe to grind I'm always missing the point, not getting it i.e. just not going along with what they think. Well tough shit, I'm always going to provide context and point out the problems with the nonsense men post here because they are bitter and have an axe to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:20 AM
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Yeah I definitely think you have issues to deal with before you inflict yourself on anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 09:19 PM
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I do get it, you have no idea about what went on between a woman and her previous partner you are making a lot of assumptions and appear to have a huge sense of entitlement. You have no right to anything and by your attitude if you are indeed even getting as far as having a woman you can walk out on, well you are doing her a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:43 PM
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It's a separate issue, there are campaigns to end male violence towards women. There are also active campaigns to improve work place safety and to do things like deter young men from reckless driving. There are also lots of initiatives to try and prevent men getting involved with gangs and the violence that lifestyle brings. In my city there have been huge efforts to end knife crime which only really effects young men. I am in support of all these campaigns. If you feel strongly about a particul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:39 PM
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I guess it happens I know a guy years ago who flew out 2 American girls to visit him after chatting with them online. Also a friend if mine from Chile met a guy from France on holiday in Spain. They had a had a holiday romance and then kept in touch online. He flew out to visit her 6 months after in Chile and she was so floored that he made all that effort just to see her she knew that he was a keeper they are now married with two kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:13 PM
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Maybe for a man if he's hooking up with Jeffrey Dahmer, that's pretty high risk. Men are typically at risk from other men and in the workplace. Young men are also more reckless and more likely to put themselves in harms way. Women on the other hand at risk from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:57 PM
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Depends on the guy to be honest. I know a few guys who are in that position and honestly they may moan about it but everyone of them essentially chose that life whether they admit it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:22 PM
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Ah the classic male refrain of if only women would lower their standards so that those standards wouldn't eliminate me. While your at it why not just request that every woman makes her body and domestic labour "free use" to any man that wants to utilise her? Or alternatively just accept women are and should be free to reject any man they want to for any spurious reason she cares to come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:19 PM
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I've never been to Tulum. Again you are just indulging in the same angry and paranoid fantasy as the rest of these guys. This is what you sound like to me "Boo hoo, why isn't she fucking me immediately? I bet she would be choking on chads cock by now, what whore she is for not fucking me like I imagine she did to those other guys, even though I have no proof of any of that and its just what I like to imagine to torture myself as I project all my insecurities on to her and blame her for all my in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:11 PM
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Most women are not on dating apps so you undermine your whole argument by suggesting dating app data is indicative of what women in gender prefer. Your post is nothing but a list of personal grievances and insecurities. Rather than take responsibility for your own short comings like a shitty personality, halitosis or just generally being an uninteresting person men find it easier to create a fairy story about how evil and duplicitous women are to explain their own failures away i.e. I’m such a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:07 PM
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Lol, his art career! The guy is living in a fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:21 AM
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Good grief op, stop posting these self regarding personal grievances. I feel I can safely say your personality is putting women off you. Lots of struggling artists without wealth or status have relationships if your having issues you are putting people off. Stop moaning / bragging on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:19 AM
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No it's a very fine line, one he often crossed while lying to himself. Suddenly he's 30 and still at home and still in many esysva teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:00 AM
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OP you're not wrong, I know it's more difficult these days due to costs / debt, but staying at home with your parents into your 20s and 30s stunts your growth and development as an adult. People get stuck in the old family dynamics that were established in childhood. Being close to your family is great but by 21 or 22 you should be out of the family home making your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:25 AM
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So says you a typical male liar. I don't listen to what men say I judge their actions and their actions give their hypergamy away. Lmao at you quoting Nietzche at me, that guy was a insane and wanted to fick his sister. He had no experience with women beyond hating them from afar. No wonder your a fan, you must feel much kinship with the old loon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:09 AM
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Well perhaps you should rephrase your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:58 AM
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AF/BB is a male paranoid fantasy. You get with a girl and she doesn't fuck you like a porn star? Oh no she must not be truly attracted to you and therefore is only after your wallet! After all you've seen 100s of hours and 1000s of women fuck in pornos and so you know that if she were really into it she'd be bouncing on your cock in reverse cowgirl or gagging on your cock. Well guess what porn is an exaggerated performance orchestred to get the male masterbator off. It isn't about portraying a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:23 AM
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I think women find only some men attractive, this doesn't mean the guy has to look like a male model or whatever, he might be a regular looking guy but he just looks cute to you but your friend might think he's blah, while you think her fella is funny looking. I don't really believe the whole idea that men find basically every non obese woman attractive. Perhaps men would fuck every non obese woman but would he actually be attracted enough to her to date her? No I don't believe so. Average women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:04 AM
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Rather than expecting to never, ever argue, you have to learn how to handle conflict. If you set up this idea that all conflict must be avoided in a relationship then your setting yourself up for trouble. Obviously nobody wants to be fighting all the time but in marriages and long term relationships disagreements will come up and arguments will happen. If you don't learn to accept that and how to get past that or argue without the negative behaviours you list such as shaming, manipulation, guilt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:49 PM
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This post honestly sounds like angry, paranoid ramblings. Healthy individuals of both sexes just go though life encountering people and just taking them for who they are. An individual may have a set of standard boundaries that are prerequisites for a romantic relationship. If they meet another person who meets those standards, respects their boundaries and vice versa then thar is a match. They don't go around demanding every member of the opposite sex meet those requirements. People who fail to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:43 PM
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Men always accuse women of lying about what they want, they say don’t ask the fish ask the fisherman. Well men lie about what they want too but they refuse to admit their true hypergamous natures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:32 PM
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Nice how you view women as a receptacle for a mans ejaculate and rage, sort of like seeing women as a man’s emotional garbage can.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:06 AM
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At best they are only attracting damaged / abused women who are prepared to put up with men who hate them because that’s familiar to them. There’s nothing to crow about here, it’s just damaged, defective people making each other more unhappy and more hateful. However the video you linked reeks of fresh and fit vibes so wouldn’t be surprised if that man has to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:02 AM
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Well as we’ve seen from the fresh and fit goons, most of these guys have to pay for sex so yes my claims are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:52 AM
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So many men expect heir women to be attractive, slim, attentive to them, to look after them, please povide sexual and visual pleasure to them on tap, cook for them, organise their lives for them, keep their house, be their therapist while they give nothing like that in return and expect to sit their out of shape asses down and be waited on hand and foot. Men are the hypergamous sex and the hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:50 AM
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I don’t require a man to like me at all but if all he likes about me is my body then I’d never give him the time of day. That man wouldn’t interest me at all and he’d be no loss. I kno what she means though you can tell as a woman if a man hates women in general but wants sex from you and I makes our skin crawl. It’s really not something men have over women, it’s just another way you self exclude yourself from the sexual market place and make yourselves unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:43 AM
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Women get blamed for filling for divorce and it’s assumed by certain groups of men she is divorcing to gain access to her husbands assets and to try and ride the “cock carousel“ (another creep male fantasy) a second time. What’s really happening is a tired and stressed out wife sick of dealing with yet another man baby. She’s come to the end of her patience dealing with his porn, gaming, alcohol, gambling or drug addiction. She’s fed up with his abuse, his overspending on crap they can’t afford,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:37 AM
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I tried following Dr Fung at one point and got really unwell following his advice and found I feel so much better on a vegetarian diet. Its just not a one size fits all situation and ultimately it’s calories / calories out regardless of what you eat. Your also right no point in starving yourself in being miserable to meet some else’s standard of what you ought to look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:19 AM
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Don’t call us fellas, we’ll call you. If you don‘t receive a call you haven’t made the cut and better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:10 AM
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Have you ever thought about being tested for autisim? I have an autistic family member and you remind me of them quite a bit. Not that its bad but I do think you lack insight, nuance and tendency towards binary thinking that is often seen in autistic people. I also thought you might be very young but that is not the case. You make a lot of big assumptions about religon for example but you have no substance or context to your arguments just a lot of wishy washy ideas you freely admit you have no …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:40 PM
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Well women may want a man who isn't going to be useless when she is pregnant or has very young children to care for, as typically that role even today still falls to women. However I don't really see how that pertains to hypergamy and its misconception by the red pill. Why not just say women look for a man who will stick around and help out and contribute financially when there are babies? Wouldn't that sort of caring, involved fathering almost go against the sort of macho image of masculinity t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:12 PM
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May I ask you a question and this isn't asked to undermine you but are you autistic by any chance? I'm just trying to get a handle on your mindset, also how old you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:01 PM
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Again there isn't any evidence for a hypergamous (as you misconceptualise it) instinct. It's not a biological term its a sociological one. Mating strategies are affected and shaped by the cultural context in which they arise and so any attempt to boil down a behaviour within a set context to biology or genetic (fundamental as you put it) without any evidence is pure speculation. "a desire to look up to or admire her male mate is not a fundamental part of female attraction in a way that is not mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:23 AM
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Well you you were vague about what you meant with "there is something there" and "a core of truth that is essentially undeniable" without qualifying that at all and then complaining that I don't get you is pretty weak. There isn't any biological evidence for hypergamy, it's a sociological term. "women prefering to marry up in some way more than men do, or to admire or look up to their partners in a way that is not symmetrical with male preferences, you are not really engaging seriously with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:45 AM
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There is zero genetic or biological evidence for hypergamy, hypergamy also refers to the act of marrying up in both men and women, it’s not a single sex term or behaviour. Historically women were not able to possess much at all, and in many cases even work never mind inherit wealth or property so women had no choice but to marry a man with more because she had nothing. In contemporary settings where women do have the ability to earn, to own property, to work, to vote and so on women and men typi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:34 AM
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Of course society isn’t gynocentric. Women now have a some sex based rights enshrined in law and men feel their slight loss of privilege as oppression. They will twist anything that doesn’t suit them, that erodes their power to oppress and control women, that shows them up as lazy or ineffectual into proof of a gynocentric conspiracy. Much like their misconception of hypergamy, their cults holy grail, the concept of a gynocentric society exists to absolve them of their failures and to shift the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:11 AM
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I don’t really think males or females is that offensive really. Cunt, Twat, Dick, Asshole etc can be used on both sexes equally and in where I am from cunt is used as a term of endearment by and towards men and women by close friends. I wouldn’t use it but lots do. Interesting that women are both maligned for having sex e.g. slut and for not having sex e.g. spinster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:53 AM
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I don’t know, all the young men I know through family, neighbours, all have steady girlfriends from a young age and then go on to marry them. There is also no divorce in my family, like none. I think I only know of one divorced couple personally in my whole life who were our neighbours when I was a kid. Just be Catholic I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:44 AM
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Yeah I think it’s possible that an unfortunate woman with low self worth might seek validation by trying to date a man with status or fame, thinking if he likes me everyone will see how great I really am, this could go for men with low self worth too. That’s not genuine attraction its pathological in nature and often the guy/woman celebrity in question is using them too, which might explain why so many celebrity relationships turn to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:36 AM
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You lack nuance, I didn’t say dishonest your black and white thinking lacks insight and maturity. Also you can’t pick and choose which parts of your posts I critique. I just think your position is all over the place one on hand you say “ The new system wouldn't really have to be all that much different from this one, it's not like promiscuous people are going to be shot” and then you say “ between 'degenerate' people, and people like you who will fight to give them the freedom of choice, regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:22 AM
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Absolutely this is true op, men like Andrew Tate are what men aspire to be themselves. There may even be a subconscious homoerotic element to their worship of such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:33 AM
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I think you're on to something op.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:27 PM
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The thought of a guy looking at other women and getting off isn't the offensive bit but him getting off to and participating in an industry that exploits its performers and is fucking up loads of young people's sexual development is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:24 PM
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I agree hypergamy as misconceived by the red pill loons is just whatever any random guy wants it to be, any reason a woman rejects or leaves him for will be reduced to "hypergamy" in order to absolve him of any responsibility and neatly make it all about women's inherently evil nature as they see it. Saying this will wind them up though, it's the hamster wheel they are prepared to die on 🐹
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:17 PM
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Most women would think those men have great bodies. Can you explain how its womens standard that are causing men's dystopia, what is it you think women want and how is this made know to you? Isn't it more likely that these standards come via the media and the many forms of advertising?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:09 PM
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"The issue is that these women consistently tend to produce problematic children, largely through raising them in single mother households. The issue is that such children come with a massive list of issues, from increased suicide and crime rates, lower school grades and etc..." This implies that women are responsible and glosses over deadbeat dads who leave or give women no choice but to kick them out due to addiction, cheating, abusive behaviour etc regardless of women's best intentions. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:41 PM
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Well please enlighten me, what do you suggest we do to make everyone monogamous and chaste until marriage? Lots of people raised with those values, even with good parental role models who had a good marriage still divorced when divorces became easier to obtain and when women had greater access to the work place. I think it's a fantasy to think you can effect this sort of change without regressive policy and legal changes which will negatively effect a lot of people. Currently we are all free to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:43 PM
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Yeah I know you weren't I was just sharing my experience of knowing people in arranged marriages and it doesn't work. Things like shared values, and similar religious, socioeconomic backgrounds, levels of educational attainment are helpful in a marriage but only with the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:13 PM
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I've known a few girls from the Pakistani community here in the UK who had arranged marriages and they all ended in divorce after a few miserable years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:50 PM
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Well you are talking about changing a system that millions and millions of people are perfectly happy with to suit yourself. I just don't think your proposal regardless of whether you see it as a throw back or not will make people happier. My original reply was that just by forcing people into monogamous relationships or chastity doesn't by default give them relationship skills or automatically make them happy, it won't. Why don't you just live life on your own terms and find someone who wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:45 PM
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But you are talking about going back, any system that puts restrictions on people behaviour is by default going to remove peoples freedom, thats men and women. Those freedoms that come out of both technological developments and progressive politics they are linked. Its a genie you can't put back in the bottle. "monogamous system, which would again be better should it include some level of This is talking about days before the contraceptive pill regardles of your intention, there is no chastity a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:55 PM
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Ok sounds like great realistic advice, I'm sure it will help a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:04 PM
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Well lots of people feel like that there is no point in dwelling on it. There are lots of style consultants and even some subs on reddit that help with finding styles like https://www.reddit.com/r/DressForYourBody/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:02 PM
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I'm not here to judge you and when you are 50 and look 40 you'll be glad of it believe me, you think life will be over at 30 or 40 etc but it really isn't, you'll feel just the same inside, hopefully with more maturity, but do yourself a favour stop beating yourself up about your looks its really not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:55 PM
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Ok then, be sure to let me know when you hit the big time ... lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:52 PM
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Were people actually happier in the past? Probably not, they probably had much lower expectations, lower educational levels, lower life expectancies, poorer health. They didn't all have magically happy marriages, not at all and there is plenty of primary evidence for this in books on social history and even archive recordings of peoples first hand experience. You miss my point that by making all the things you don't like less acceptable that people automatically have happy stable lives, people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:51 PM
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Well if your happy being delusional carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:34 PM
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He's not trolling he's mentally ill. You know a plastic surgeon once told me that women with stronger faces age better because there is more scaffolding to hold on to the flesh. We lose facial bone as we age and so a more "handsome" look provides that extra support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:30 PM
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Well its still better to accept yourself and play to your strengths, you don't want to end up like this guy https://news.sky.com/story/oli-london-british-influencer-defends-identifying-as-korean-after-surgery-to-look-like-bts-star-12344765 Yikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:14 PM
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Well I don't want to ruin my life by choosing to marry a depressive, I grew up with one as a parent and have done my time in that respect. I know it sucks but its not anyones job help you get better and even if they do its probably sucking the life out of them. My younger brother has a brain tumour which is going to kill him one day, it almost did last year but he finds ways to enjoy his life and not bring everyone around him down. He's a man and he finds ways to deal with just about the shittes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:12 PM
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Well your very unlikely to become famous so you'll need to come to a more mature position in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:58 PM
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Are some people hypocrites, sure they are but lots of people don't cheat, lots of people are not impulsive and don't engage in impulsive behaviour. Lots of people love and admire their spouse even though they are not perfect. The problem with red pill is that it paints a very nihilistic picture of people and says everyone is the same when that isn't true. Nobody is perfect, everyone can feel temptation, every relationship can have its rough patch but if you are honest at least with yourself and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:33 PM
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If by status you mean have a job with some sort of future then I think thats pretty important. As a woman I want a man I am attracted to, I want him not to be drowning in debt and I want for him to have a job. He doesn't have to be rich, have model looks or some high profile career in fact I'd prefer his work not take up excessive amounts of his time because shared time as a couple is more important to me. I'd expect those requirements to be the same for most guys when selecting a female partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:20 PM
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Well I think a lot of male pro-atheletes also use their sexuality these days. I'm not very familier with WWE, to be honest I thought that was more pantomime than sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:10 PM
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I think women should be able to do what they like but I honestly don't think a lot of them enjoy promiscuity and I think it hurts them, I don't believe it is as prevalent as its made out to be on here at least in the UK and I don't think it messes up their ability to form a bond later unless they already had attachment issues originating in childhood. When it does happen its usually a misguided attempt to find love, some form of people pleasing or trying to fit in. I'm also not in favour of doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:07 PM
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I guess that goes both ways lots of husbands have little love or respect for their wives also. I don't know if changing the system really does much, perhaps its always been the case that only a minority of people have happy, loving, mututally satisfying relationships? Manipulating people into monogamy by changing societal norms about marriage, divorce or promiscuity doesn't give people the skills to navigate and maintain relationships long term, it doesn't erase childhood attachment issues or ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:00 PM
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There isn't anything wrong with working on what you have, being fit and healthy, that is to be encouraged but going under the knife no I think its not a good idea at all. Also I doubt you look ill at all we really are our own harshest critics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:45 PM
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I think its analogous to praise, it certainly confers some status on them even if they are resented for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:42 PM
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I hope so, if someone has a huge nose or jaw that's obviously unfortunate and recognisable by doctors at a young age then sure have surgery but all the cosmetic filler, botox, body alteration is just a form of barbarism to me. I'm not in favour of trans-humanisim, its very much a false hope. I mean just look at how weird and unattractive all these surgery victims are! I much prefer a less than perfect natural face. In my opinion coming to terms with our limitations and finding acceptance with wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:01 AM
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I saw a video recently where they were saying relationships are only for very highly functioning people. I don't know if that's true but a lot of people seem to lack the basic skills that make a relationship work long term or lack the maturity to be able to handle their own shit well enough not to pollute the relationship. Nobody's perfect, nobody has it all figured out but that's not an excuse to dump all over your love ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:48 AM
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Love exists, if you need to find concrete proof by looking for exceptions to this subs beloved SMV rules then that is a very sad place to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:43 AM
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I once watched a documentary set in Pakistan where a rather chunky woman who was covered up head to toe but was riding a moped was being cat called in the street and called a slut and temptress because of her provocative behaviour i.e. Riding a moped. Women have always been blamed for inciting men to lust, why do you think women are kept so covered up in some parts of the world, why did women have their clits removed even until fairly recently in the west if they were deemed too sexual. In some …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:39 AM
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Yeah it would be great if men didn't insist of showing you their cock at every turn. Logged on to a movie themed yahoo chat room for the first and last time in 2001 only to be met with a barrage of dick picks. Give your number to a make colleague at work because your giving him a lift one day to a training course. Then a few months later he drunkenly sends you dick pics? Walking down the street and a man walks out of the bushes at you duck in hand wanking at you, or at the bus stop, another gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:25 AM
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Well hypothetical for me as I'm married but no it wouldn't make me mad. I'd insist on a full panel of STD tests for both of us as well. No test no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:20 AM
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I've looked at FDS and most of it is just hyperbole. There is some good advice for women in there about having standards, many women are people pleasers with very poor boundaries and standards for how they will accept to be treated and anything that helps them correct that is a positive in my book. As for your concern well, the sort of women who hold the natural attributes required to "ensnare" rich men are not posting on FDS. Much of it is a response to red pill ideas and is somewhat tongue in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:45 AM
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Well I definitely think women are told men prefer happy cheerful women. Women are called nags, bitches, moaners and crazy by men for displaying negative affect. Women maybe seen as the more emotional sex but that doesn't necessarily translate to blanket acceptance and is in fact often used as a stick with which to beat them. Some guys might patiently listen to the troubles of some girl he wants to fuck but he has an ulterior motive which overrides his natural aversion to the display of negative …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:35 AM
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Men who aren't players may resent them but that doesn't mean they don't want to be players themselves. I see that sentiment from the sexless men here all the time. Sometimes they don't want the girls they can get, they want to be the mythical chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:35 AM
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Pregnancy and childrearing are much harder on women physically (even potentially life threatening), emotionally and financially for far longer than it is or men. Women must always have the final decision on what happens with her body. If men don't want kids they need to take responsibility for themselves and either wrap it up or abstain. Even if the woman is on birth control or uses a coil wear a condom if you definitely don't want kids with that woman as no birth control is 100% so 2 types of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:01 AM
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Oh come on, can't we even have a laugh anymore? He's the degenerate, planning on god knows what with hypothetical sex robots, I was merely pointing out that he'll likely have gone off the boil by by the time he gets to 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:25 PM
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Whoosh, it goes right over your tiny mind doesn't it 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:43 PM
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I'm married and it's wonderful but it's only wonderful with a man who is capable of being an equal partner, many do not possess this capability. Marriage is very rewarding with the right person because to have someone who knows you better than you know yourself, who helps you grow and supports you, who you know you can always count on, share things with, who'll call you out on your bullshit and back you up when you're right, and you do all the same for them, it's incomparable to anything else. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:19 PM
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No it doesn't affect my self perception, it might affect how others see me but that is largely an irrelevance to me and outwith my control. I'm more affected by the health and level of mutual satisfaction in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:08 PM
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Yes this is true, that is why I don't think red pill ideas are useful for individuals seeking satisfying relationships because they are predicted on leveraging that abusive / low self esteem dynamic that is just perpetuating suffering all round.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:59 PM
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Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks is horseshit, its a red pill brain fart and these guys get high huffing on them. Please don't concern yourself with what you read from men on here these theories don't apply to healthy individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:52 PM
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If men don't want to risk pregnancy then they need to take responsibility and either abstain from sex or bring their own condoms and wear them. Women overwhelmingly bare the burden in pregnancy and childrearing especially when the man doesn't want to be involved, all he has to do is contribute a few dollars, its really nothing compared to the time, effort, money, blood sweat and tears a women has to put into motherhood. Of course the man should not get a say, it should always be the choice of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:48 PM
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Well at 31 it should still work, but 51? Well you'll need to wait and see, over 75% of men have some form of ED aged 50 +
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:33 PM
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Ooh hit a nerve did I? It's OK, you can get pills for that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:56 PM
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Just because you don't treat women that way doesn't other members also don't, a hold chunk of men do, they must given its prevalence. Any sexual harrasment you have suffered isn't right but for the most part men are bigger and stronger than women and so you still cannot understand how physically threatened women feel. Even when men are raped it is for the most part by other men so it's still a male problem. I never said the world is full of raping men beasts but all men have the capacity to rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:55 PM
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I'm merely taking part in the shit show that is PPD if you don't wish to imbibe my wisdom, nobody is holding a gun to your head. The average man "here" doesn't take women seriously because they do not wish to, they just want women to get back in their box and do what men say they just want women to be a house slave they can fuck and don't care about their humanity and cannot understand that women have a life outside men, that is why it is us who must dismiss you men and as you can see women do.I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:25 PM
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There you go again, dehumanising women, tells me all I need to know really. Women might complain about men, we might reject them but at least we see them as more than objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:07 PM
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If that's the case it's their fathers who let them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:00 PM
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I've actually been lucky, I have a wonderful husband and I had a great father so I know good men exist but I've also been a woman in the world and this is how men treat women. Literally ask any woman and they will tell you the same, we have all been assaulted multiple times by men just going about our daily lives. If you can't see that, I'd you lack even the basic empathy to understand that is a pretty much universal female experience then I'm really not surprised men struggle to connect with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:58 AM
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Lol, how about men stop being "men babies" and actually contribute to family life? If men did their equal share of childcare, domestic, mental and emotional labour, if they picked up after themselves, if they didn't leave piss all over the toilet seat and bathroom floor, if they weren't porn sick, addicted to pornography and masterbation, if they weren't alcoholics and drug addicts, if they didn't check out of family life by playing video games ever spare minute or sinking excessive amounts of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:39 AM
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I'm sure they would love avoid the "dumbfucks" as you so eloquently put it but truth is there just aren't enough good men to go round, most are pretty useless and emotionally stunted. Ah we come full circle back to why women have issues with men, thank you for letting me reiterate my point and again I'm sorry to have triggered you, you might want to do some work on yourself to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:23 AM
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A "good chunk" could really be anything, it simply means more than a few. Speak to the majority of women and they will tell you about multiple experiences of sexual harrasment, men rubbing up against them rubbing their erections on them, ejaculating on you against your will in public places, even holding you down while they doing it as you struggle and try to get free while pleadingwith them to stop, men shouting to them in the street about wanting to fuck them, about being able to smell your pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:53 AM
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Me? Well personally I'm happily married. However I know a lot of women, we talk and its true many complain about how men want to be looked after like they were little boys, not having to lift a finger or contribute anything more than money and yet they expect their wives and girlfriends to be mad with lust for them when in fact they lose respect and desire for immature men who only take and take. Sorry I triggered you, must have hit a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:00 AM
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"in my 50s when I would be more likely to do a lot of degenerate sexual experimentation" Lol, dream on, you'll be dead from the waist down by your 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:55 AM
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I don't think its most men but a lot of men here are autistic like I am sure the op is. They struggle to relate to other people, they fail to develop theory of mind and as a result cannot read or understand others, leading them to make many erroneous assumptions and act in ways that alienate them further. Such an individual would perhaps be more satisfied in a relationship with a preprogrammed puppet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:54 AM
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"watch the anime so you understand." Lol, the Waifu uprising begins, but seriously man you're fucked in the head, I'm sorry for you and all being the way you are but anime isn't reality and it's not what most people want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:43 AM
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These machines would be pacifiers for autistic, incel men, most neuro-typical men will still prefer real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:39 AM
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Let me correct that for you OP, when fembot girlfriends become available lonely autistic men who fail to adequately develop "theory of mind" will be satisfied by proxy relationships with machines in much the same way a paralysed person is satisfied with a wheelchair to get around. Most people will still know the value of flesh and blood and will want relationships with real people. Women will be relieved these men who they never wanted but who hounded and hated them have been distracted and neut…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:36 AM
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I think these same men aren't actually out there looking for a relationship or they lack the skills required for a relationship. Men who sit home every night sending money to women on only fans, fapping and lamenting their lack of intimacy only have themselves to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:21 AM
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This is true, pretty much every woman has been sexually assaulted at least once not to mention all the times men expose themselves to women, rub themselves up against us, leer at us, make comments and sexual threats to us. I'd like to think this isn't the majority of men but it must be a good chunk of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:59 AM
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Ita not that the majority of men are "bad" men or abusive, its that the majority of men expect women to do all the heavy lifting in relationships, do all the emotional labour, all the domestic shit work then when we ask for help, for an equitable contribution we get labelled as nags and bitches. Men still think all they need to do is not abuse us and to contribute a few dollars (something they seem to resent even though women these days also contribute financially) and then they get to sit back …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:55 AM
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I think it's more that by 50 there are less single people in general. I don't think women of 35 - 45 are particularly interested in dating 50 year old men. Women 45 - 55 are interested in in 50 year old men. Because the pool of available single people in that age range is smaller in general there is more chance of men at that age of getting a match in the context of a dating app. This is not the same as men peaking at 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:47 AM
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Your wrong, men in their 50s are passed it, men are completely delusional about how men age and how women perceive them as they age. Men in their 50s are not attractive to young women. Women prefer men their own age and older women 40+ prefer somewhat younger men. Men peak in their early thirties after that they are in decline. I am well aware of what women appreciate in men, I dare say I understand what those things are better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:38 AM
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Firstly men do not peak at 50, that is laughable, that is dating site data probably just means that by the time you get to 50 the ratios on dating sites are more even and there for men of 50 get more matches from women their age. Secondly, just because a 45 year old thinks an 18 year old is attractive doesn't mean he'd be able to have a mutually satisfying relationship with her. Most older people find very young people to be clueless, boring and too much trouble. For a full relationship which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:31 AM
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Those things are paid for from taxation they don't require individual women to minister to the emotional boo boos of potentially dangerous and hateful men. Men need to take responsibility for this issue and stop offloading all their emotional processing onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:21 AM
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Well, I take it English isn't your first language as some if your writing is a bit unclear. Women don't need to be taken down from their entitlement, how do you even know they are entitled? Just because they are not attracted to you? There is something else putting women off you then because being chill and introvert isn't unattractive. My husband is "chill and introvert" but he still picked up the phone, called and asked me out. I don't know what you mean by toxic feminisim but when most men ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:16 AM
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You seem to have the idea that women don't desire male bodies sexually or at least a wide enough range of male bodies and that by starving women of male attention and sex they'd become more attracted to unattractive men? Well sorry that's not how attraction works attraction is a spontaneous, involuntary response. "slave-provider" Women don't want a slave provider, they can provide for themselves. They want a partner, unfortunately a lot of men are incapable of this. Men often want a house slave,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:31 AM
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Chad sounds fucking heinous. "Chad" isn't what women want, he is the fantasy (perhaps even the homoerotic fantasy) of incel men. Chad is who they desire or at least desire to be, what women want doesn't come into it, he's a purely male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:47 AM
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"lowering down the importance on how much overrated females are" What sort of education do you propose to do this? How women are valued by men isn't women's problem, that's down to men themselves. Women do understand men get lonely but we can't be expected to enter into relationships with men we don't love and aren't attracted to. The only solution for lonely men is to become attractive to women somehow or to find contentment and connection through non romantic relationships. I don't believe it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:35 AM
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It would surprise you OP, male entitlement can be breathtaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:06 AM
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I'm sure some have but for many men even a polite rejection from a woman is probably perceived as a willful act of humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:54 PM
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Even if women do understand and agree that it must be frustrating for you what on earth do you expect them to do about it? You don't want women's empathy, it doesn't help you, what you really want women themselves. All these complaints of women not understanding are just veiled demands that we submit ourselves to accepting relationships with men we do not desire and have no interest in. You cannot ask that of women, its a profoundly unreasonable demand thar dehumanised women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:51 PM
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People typically end up with someone who is of roughly the same level of attractiveness as them and the same can be said for socio-economic background, educational achievement and so on. People generally prefer to partner up with people like themselves, it's called assortative mating. Mostly though thinking in terms of leagues isn't helpful, most people will like various people and then hopefully at least one if them will reciprocate those feelings enough to establish a relationship. It's not ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:42 PM
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I've been friends with guys I know would have liked to date me if I were single. I wasn't single or interested in them and while they liked me I wasn't their primary or exclusive interest so if we had good grounds for mutual friendship then I think that's fine, am I supposed to have no male friends because men will generally be attracted to me? These friendships are equitable and don't involve money being spent or gifts. I've had a couple of men tell me that don't want to be just friends and if …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:25 PM
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Oh what a surprise, yet another post from a clueless man telling women what they feel and what frigid, stuck up bitches they are 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:13 PM
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I've never humiliated a man for asking me out when I wasn't interested but I have been bullied, harrased and stalked for turning men down or breaking up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:03 PM
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"You CANNOT tell if a woman is "aroused" or if she enjoys sex" We've got a live one here girls 😂 OP you are literally clueless women, come back when you've actually had sex a few times, if that ever occurs, but until then at least acknowledge your utter ignorance about women 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:59 PM
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Previous experience suggests men with low self extreme often display controlling abusive behaviour, they undermine you to gain control of you and the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:43 PM
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The blame here is constantly placed on to women in a way that attempts to undermines their autonomy as humans as if they are out of line for choosing the partners they want. I get it its not just about sex men are lonely and need women for emotional intimacy as well as sex but the issue ultimately lies with men. Many men do not offer enough in terms of mature adult partnership to women. Women want partners too but they prefer being single to being with men who are quite frankly a liability, like…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:41 PM
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What a load of fucking shite. Women may not love you or sex with you but I assure women do love good sex and they love the men they love. Now toddle along op and sublimate your frustrations into something more productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:00 PM
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I agree its not women's fault but we are so often made to feel like it is, women are being made scapegoats for men's inadequacy, misery and violence. It ends up sounding to me like those crys for "state issue girlfriends" we heard about a few years ago. This attitude to women like we are just something that should be distributed to men completely exposes something fundamental about how many men actually see women as something less human, less autonomus than they themselves, we are more a resourc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:23 PM
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While this might be a "society" problem and its really up to men to fix this for themselves. Its not women's problem. You're not my son, my father, my brother, my boyfriend, my husband? Well then you're not my problem. Women are also fed up being told we make it worse or can't help unless we just shut up and just be what men want us to be, lower your standards and expectations, stop prioritising other things over men. Thats not going to happen, women have shown they prefer to live solo over an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:07 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:02 AM
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Here's the disconnect in a nutshell, women want a partner and men want a house slave who will suck their dick and kiss their emotional boo boos better. Women are fed up of being treated like a utility men feel entitled to. Women can meet their intimacy needs through robust connections with friends and family, they can get sex if they want it and they can support themselves. If men are unable to offer partnership then they literally have nothing to offer Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:59 AM
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Are you like terminally online or something, don't you have a life off reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:49 AM
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Calm down it was a typo, I was agreeing with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:47 AM
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Lol, Love that I'm putting that on a T-shirt! "Stay virgin and marry a virgin" that is exactly what these creeps think!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:42 AM
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As a counterpoint everyone, men and women get old, ugly and eventually sexless. It's difficult to find new partners as we age so marriage when youngish may provide companionship in old age that would otherwise be missing. It might not be necessary in your tribal community scenario but we just don't live like that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:39 AM
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I know right? I was always so excited for mgtow and was ready to wave those men off into the sunset but they just never leave! They should rename themselves MTOWW, Men Totally Obsessed With Women 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:32 AM
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You're not wrong but that's not what men here are after, they want a mammy they can ride and to have no responsibility other than putting a few dollars on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:29 AM
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You're sooo right, women have always deep down loved doing all the domestic shit work and we should just be glad to get back to it, given that's our place in the natural order right? How fucking convenient for men that women are just "naturally inclined" to looking after them. Keep telling yourself that, women have moved on and aren't coming back to wipe your ass anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:23 AM
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Even the best men see you as a house slave in the end. Men can only conceive of women in relation to men, they don't typically see them as fully autonomous human beings with motivations that are nothing to do with them. They might think they do but they don't and it's obvious in everything they say about women. Until men snap out of this issues will remain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:11 AM
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Lol at the op for expecting reasonable behaviour on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:04 AM
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Your being pathetic, nothing will come of the whinging of a bunch of sore loser men who think society will collapse or some uprising will occur because no woman wants to touch their weenie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:46 PM
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16? I’d feel sorry for his tiny porn addled brain if it weren’t so hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:18 PM
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Men’s valid concerns? Don’t make me laugh. The concerns men have are only about loss of privilege to use and abuse women and there is still a long way to go in that regard. It’s over guys, get used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:15 PM
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Hopefully we’ll see less consumers born to serve the machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:11 PM
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I’m not in favour of promiscuity or using other people for sex male or female. However having families and raising children isn’t for everyone, there is satisfaction is being a parent it can also cause a great deal of unhappiness for people and plenty of research backs this up. I know there is a current trend to reject hedonism and return to “old ways” because the modern pursuit of pleasure and fulfilment of desire has left so many miserable and unhappy but I think it’s important not to be so re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:10 PM
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Thank you for posting this, so many men post here and just never acknowledge the female experience. I think this is so revealing and betrays that so many of them don't really see women as fully human and autonomous individuals. Instead they see women only in how they relate to men, how they might serve men or hurt them. They seem incapable of understanding that we may for example have motivations that have nothing to do with them! I think this is why they become so enraged when women best them p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:59 PM
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So basically women given the chance to get and education and enter the workforce prove themselves to be equal to and even superior to men. Women in Korea then also rebel against the shitty, abusive treatment Koren men have subjected them to for long periods most recently an epidemic of filming them with hidden cameras while they pee, shit, change etc. They finally stand up for themselves and fight back and the men have a meltdown because they lose some of the privilege which they feel entitled t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:45 PM
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No of course they aren't, being a young woman can be really painful and difficult so getting older is often relief for women. Sometimes older women warning young women off creepy men or sounding the alarm about a certain group of men trying to gain access to women's spaces is seen as evidence they are old and bitter, but really they are just wise and see right through the bullshit and see it as their duty to try and protect others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:30 PM
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Women have become obsessed with the idea they need to get fucked with every size dick, by every type of men in order to 'find out what they like. Bullshit, this is merely your paranoid fantasy, I'm beginning to think you guys actually get off in this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:38 PM
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The good advice red pill has to offer isn’t any different from big standard advice your grandma would give you or that you’d find in any mass market self help book. It’s not the special preserve of red pill but the concept of it’s “secret knowledge” appeals to the immature male mind. Anything good in the red pill is just a lure to trap you in it’s toxic web of lies, always remember red pill is just a basic cult run by grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:19 PM
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Everybody is sensitive to rejection, do what everyone else does and just suck it up, that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:13 PM
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I don’t think they do listen, men attracted to red pill ideas are NPC’s and have very low intelligence and aren’t capable of formulating their own views, they prefer and need to be told what to think and there are plenty of baldy old men online looking for simps who are happy to exploit that need. When someone offers them any alternative or tries to inject nuance into their black and white thinking they literally cannot compute it and so lash out or automatically reject the differing viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:11 PM
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We need to stop worrying about guys like this say they want, it’s the same as them worrying about winning the lottery and what prize they’d prefer. It isn’t going to happen either way. If these men want a female partner then they need to lower their standards or accept becoming lonely old cat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:03 PM
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There was some study that said people who are more promiscuous prior to marriage have less stable marriages. However what these low iq red pill guys fail to see is that the same issues that drive people to highly promiscuous behaviour is also the same issues that destabilise marriage, that these people are unstable prior to any sexual or romantic involvement due to childhood trauma. Some of them also literally believe that a woman’s vagina moulds itself to the shape of the best and biggest dick …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:41 PM
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Lol exactly, I’m getting to the point where I really don’t believe in “incels” anymore. We need to start calling it what it is autism and other mental disorders. There was even the case of that guy who blew his own hand off building a bomb to blow up “hot cheerleaders” he was a self described involuntary celibate and idolised E. Rodger. Yet he’d been in a sexual relationship with his steady girlfriend for two years. The whole incel, red pill, manosphere debacle isn’t anything to do with how all …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:00 PM
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It's pointless trying to argue with these boys they are typically ND and really struggle to understand nuance or anyone's perspective than their own. It's a sad but best just to post and hope some of it sinks in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:23 PM
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True, I wonder how much of the problems the men who frequent PPD have with social skills could be put down to the aged semen of older fathers causing autisim?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:18 PM
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Have you seen the red pill goons? I see a bunch of baldy, fat, cat bum mouthed, old ugly looking guys. They all hit the wall, reversed and smashed back into it repeatedly, starting a long, long time ago. These men and probably most men are just utterly delusional about their appearance, how young they look and how attractive they imagine they are, it's laughable really, they must all have magic mirrors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:15 PM
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I think men who like pill ideas have certain deficiencies that means they need rules telling them how to act in life. I don't think it matters to them that it's all made up bullshit and ineffective they just need someone to tell them what to do. Same with people who are vulnerable to cults. It's pitiable really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:54 AM
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No it's not true at all, most men look like shit past 30. Even Brad Pitt, George Clooney and Tom Cruise haven't been attractive for a very, very long time. Don't be deluded, you won't be sleeping with 20 year olds at 50, not a chance. Following red pill ideas will only make you uglier and less attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:45 AM
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I get that this is difficult for you to understand but this isn't about you or men, it's about the exploitation of women and children. The fact that you fail to see this glaringly obvious fact tells me all I need to know about you and your attitude to women and children and probably shows up the real issue that men on this forum have with women in general. Your a pretty disgusting human being and no women will ever want you, your money or your seed 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:42 AM
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I think it's definitely possible to be happy and fulfilled single but nothing beats the feeling of having someone you love, someone who you know has your back, who you trust, who knows you better than you know yourself. It really is an incredible thing to experience and be a part of. I personally find marriage to be more rich and fulfilling than being single and being in a relationship is a powerful experience for growth as a human being if done with awareness. Not everyone has the capacity or d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:13 AM
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You reproducing? Yeah, that's not happening. On a serious note I would suggest fostering or adoption but you need a shit ton of therapy before you'd be allowed anywhere near a child. People who think they can buy people aren't fit to be parents, your not fit to be a father and you won't find an avenue to reproduce until you fix your issues, if that is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:04 AM
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OP, I totally agree with you. Men, especially the men here are full of shit. Yes a man will message just about every woman in the hope of getting his dick wet (any holes a goal) but studies prove men spend the most time looking at the profiles of and messaging the youngest, most attractive women, even men in their 50s are still looking at 22 year olds on dating apps. Men have a warped image of what is average because they don't even see women they don't find hot, they just tune them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 08:35 AM
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Why not marry a woman and prospective mother of your kids who you love and actually like? However its patently obviously what you actually mean to say is "I hate all women and view both women and children as object that I can purchase for my own satisfaction" It gives me some comfort to know your chances of reproducing are vanishingly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:24 AM
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No surrogacy is wrong, its exploitation and its cruel to both the mother and child. It turns children and mothers into mere commodities. It should be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:00 AM
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Why not consider dating other men then, if women are so repulsive to you perhaps you should be questioning your sexuality? Perhaps you'd find same sex relationships more satisfying especially if purity / virginity are what you value most?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:10 PM
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You are spectacularly missing the point of what is meant by "nice guy". The "nice guy" women moan about is in actual fact not a nice guy at all, he only claims to be while being an absolute prick to any woman who doesn't react to his advances as he thinks they should, these men are bullies. The studies you link don't suggest men are more successful with women when they beat women up. "women, for some reason, lack the self-reflexive awareness to even come close in acknowledging dating behavioral …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:06 PM
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Lol no most men regardless of their circumstances are balding, fat and showing significant facial aging by 30 because they are too lazy to take care of themselves properly and are deluded enough to think women still think they are attractive and sexy when they are well past their sell by date. However men are excellent self deceivers telling them selves how young they look, they must all, like you have magic mirrors!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:56 AM
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You sound completely deranged. Women haven't been duped by some conspiracy, women wanted out of the home, they wanted out of doing 24/7 childcare, they wanted out of having more than 2 kids, they wanted out of having to look after a lazy man child. Women wanted more, they wanted and education and the freedom to choose their own path, to have choices outside of marriage and kids. They might be prepared to marry and have children but only if the division of labour is equitable but men failed to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:04 AM
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Perhaps what your really trying to say is that some women are raised to expect to be treated badly and so when they meet someone who does so that expectation is fulfilled and that feels satisfying on some psychological level. It's not love though, both these people are fucked up and will never have a healthy, happy relationship while indulging this dynamic. In healthy relationships people support and do things for each other as needed, picking up the slack if their partner is ill or has pressing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:47 AM
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Lol he's not a great debater, he just shouts over people and cherry picks the guests to ensure he will be able to over power them, which is different from actually willing intellectually. He's also been exposed multiple times as a massive fraud and liar. He's a laughable joke and will no doubt be removed from the various platforms in due course because the quality of his content is so poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:35 AM
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It would annoy me as I prefer calm, centered individuals but other people like someone lively.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:34 AM
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Any sense of entitlement to sex is turn off, regardless of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:30 PM
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No women don't need to alter their behaviour to make things easier for the minority of men who struggle with social cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:27 PM
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No there is no evidence for this also autism arises across socioeconomic groups, it's not restricted to those with degree's in stem subjects who had kids together. Also there would always have been women with the aptitude to study STEM subjects but until relatively recently they did not have the option of doing so. So its not like these women just magically appeared out of nowhere, they were always there. Autisim rates increase as the definition of the disorder broadens and diagnosis becomes mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:28 AM
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Women do typically provide better emotional support to their friends than male friendship groups do. Nobody has to change if the choose not to and certainly not because of your opinion, which will be irrelevant to most people. If men are struggling then they needs to learn to be better friends to each other, to provide better emotional support to one another. However men seem to find it very difficult to do this because they prefer to place the burden of emotional support on women and struggle t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:14 AM
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The misogynistic language you use about women shows you are highly undesirable to any women, disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:38 AM
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You have no idea of what its like to be a woman, constantly watched and harrased. Being nice and letting down your guard to a man, even just a smile is seen like an invitation to sex by some men. You learn just to essentially wall yourself off to protect yourself from constant sexual advances. It's exhausting and limits a womans participation and freedom in life more than any man could ever understand. Then on top of that there is the back lash you face if you reject a man which can be downright…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:35 AM
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Your post proves red pill doesn't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:23 AM
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Traditionally women have felt immense pressure to be in a relationship and find a man to marry however in recent times that us changing. I think young men are driven by a strong sex drive to find women to have sex with inside or outside of a relationship. It's also likely that men find more emotional support inside a romantic relationship / marriage than is the case for women who tend to find more emotional support from friends. I think a lot of these pressures you feel come from other men so pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:21 AM
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Well its not just women but your obviously not open to an actual discussion so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:33 PM
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But the same even happens with older women, they message men around their age, these men are not top percent as you put it, they are just average middle aged men but the behaviour is the same. Even if it were the case it doesn't change my point that it is apps driving maladaptive behaviours and expectations in both men and women and not that the apps are exposing some terrible truth about women. Please stop being so blinded by a misconception and see the bigger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:42 PM
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Men find larger amount of women attractive that's why they message more women. If thats the case then why do so many women complain about pump and dump, if men were so keen on any woman who isn't fat or deformed then that wouldn't be such a feature and its not just all "chads" doing this behaviour is just normal guys. I think its pretty objectively observable in reality that lots of women marry men who they do find highly attractive but who other women do not. I do appreciate that you guys here …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:20 PM
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I'm not quite what you mean by the narrative that men need to elevate their standards. I think that men are willing to sleep with women they don't like or especially find attractive and some men, not all will use manipulative means to get that sex. It is possible that men will both sleep with just about any woman but then feel frustrated that he isn't getting the women he really wants and that could be at least in part do to porn consumption and instagram, I'm not saying that applies to you but …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:05 PM
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Prior to Daniel Craigs Bond the target audiance was male but when Craig became bond there was a move to make the franchise more female friendly as you say. So for example the inclusion of Monica Bellucci as a Bond girl in her 50's, recruiting Pheobe Waller-Bridge to the writing team, the maturing vision of Barbara Broccoli as producer, the influance of Craig himself and so on. As I said before a man might watch that scene as say wow, what a body, I wish I looked like that so all these hot bond g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:16 PM
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The statistic you mention comes from a study OK Cupid did on their users. I think that dating apps are very unnatural set ups. I believe most apps have fewer women overall and initially the most attractive women then get 100's or more messages daily from men, these women get overwhelmed and don't reply or even read most of them. Frustrated by this men respond by emailing and ever increasing amount of women with cut and paste "hows you" messages, then all women are overwhelmed by 100's of message…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:52 PM
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Well I think within the definition you give that could also be considered the "female gaze" as the male gaze as defined by pre-eminent film theorist Laura Mulvey the male gaze also encapsulated the way women look at themselves as in the quote from her text above. So I think female gaze would be the correct term in this case but of course it may become the queer gaze or homoerotic male gaze in the works of a filmmaker such as Jean Cocteau for example. You lose me a bit when you start talking of S…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:00 PM
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Well I didn't specify that it was only above average women using those things, we've all seen the jaw dropping instagram vs reality images, my whole point is that not even those instagram baddies look like that irl. I don't think its healthy behaviour for women to do that, least of all for their own mental health and self image. The majority of women however don't do this and it's disingenuous of you to suggest they do. The issue is men don't look at very ordinary looking women when their are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:41 PM
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I also think a lot of mens rating of women if off because of what they see online, on Instagram, TikTok, Porn etc. Even if the consciously know these women are using make up, angles, lighting, posing, filters and even things like filler and surgery their lizard brain or whatever doesn’t understand that. So when they see some average girl online or in real life she looks homely, even below average to them and if that is the only girl they can get (because she’s a real life looks match) they resen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:41 AM
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I think when you’re very young as a female you are conditioned to be perhaps not submissive but to see the best in people, to smile and not be difficult as an example I once went to the cinema on my own one afternoon. I sat down alone and a few minutes later a much older man sat next to me in a pretty empty scree, he had no reason and no business sitting next to me but in my mind I’m thinking stuff like, this doesn’t feel right but I don’t want to make him feel uncomfortable or that I’m implying…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:39 AM
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Your example isn’t really what the male gaze is, a young woman with an old dude is more like a trope. Male gaze is more about how the camera lingers on the female body. Here is a definition of sorts: The male gaze is - “How men look at women, how women look at themselves and finally, how women look at other women. Typical examples of the male gaze include medium close-up shots of women from over a man’s shoulder, shots that pan and fixate on a woman’s body, and scenes that frequently occur which…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:33 AM
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Many women isn’t most women, I’ve never known a woman to have a dick size requirement. Men talk a lot of shit about womens vaginas but ultimately they are all pretty decent and the same is true in reverse it’s all about who it’s attracted to. The height this I must admit I don’t get, 5 foot 8 is average make height here so well under the mythical 6 foot And it’s just never been something I’ve thought about in terms of liking a guy or not, I think this is more of a factor in online dating where i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:00 AM
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No we don’t and you know you are being disingenuous here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:52 AM
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A very wealthy man might get a higher than average amount of interest and sex from a self selecting group of women but they are all outliers and that set up doesn’t apply to most people who are just looking for someone to share and loving and mutually supportive relationships with, it’s not all the soulless power play you imagine it is. You conception of relationships isn’t healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:49 AM
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But a man could easily communicate his need to be left alone the way a woman tells him I don’t need you to fix it I just need you to listen. Women in healthy mutu fulfilling relationships deal with men’s emotions all the time as I do with my husband and many other women do. I am saying these are my actua experiences talking to women, you then turn it around and make it all about how men are hard done by. You don’t take any accountability like many of them men here who use misogynistic talking po…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:44 AM
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I honestly don’t think most women really benefit from or fully enjoy fwb/hook up type situations. I think it’s a cultural norm and women, especially young girls feel it’s normal and expected but it’s not really healthy or advantageous for them. I think men get hung up on the responses women get online and on dating apps but women tend to understand unless they are very damaged / low iq that the attention they get is meaningless and without value. A hundred “ hey how’s you” doesn’t substitute for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:22 AM
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What makes you think an emotionally intelligent guy would be a loser? Do you think all women would dump their husbands to run off with Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos? I think not. I am talking about what most women want and most women don’t want a guy who gets with a lot of women. Your view is male projection, you are confusing what you think is cool in a man with what women in reality want. Why would I be interested in a man who is a womaniser, I wouldn’t be and nor would most women be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:05 AM
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I am a woman and I talk to women about this sort of thing all the damn time and what they moan about in men isn’t that he’s not rich, oh he’s only a plumber and 5 foot 8 so disappointing. They complain that he never listens, that he expects her to do all the mental load of house and kids, even though they both work full time, that he doesn’t call when he says he will, that he shuts her out when he’s upset about things or gets angry when she’s upset about anything, that rather than ever admit he’…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:00 AM
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Oh please can’t you try harder than this woeful little post?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:39 AM
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Some women may say that especially on the unnatural platform o dating apps. However that isn’t what this thread is about, it’s about men having emotional maturity and relationship skills. For most women regardless of what they say on dating apps, these qualities trump the superficial things you mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:38 AM
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You can disagree but that doesn’t make you correct, there are things far more important in a partner to women than money. As long as we have enough between us who cares who earns more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:34 AM
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Well you said average woman and that includes all women whether you’d date them or not and even if we go by your selection even then only a very small percentage of women are doing as you suggest, ergo the average woman is promiscuous or selling their body, unless of course you are only looking at women on only fans or online sex workers etc? I never said the average man couldn’t provide those things in a relationship, I said that there were many men who could not which is quite different, plent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:31 AM
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Its very dependent on the individuals involved in each relationship of course but I think the women who complain would say they had been in relationships with men who failed to bring much to the relationship. Sex or money isn’t enough for a mutually fulfilling and supportive relationship, there needs to be real friendship mutual support, doing your fair share of what’s required in the home and in the relationship. Some women feel that some men they were involved with want a woman to just look af…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:23 AM
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I think it’s more nuanced than how you put it but I suppose if you are saying people in future will have less relationships and only enter into a relationship or marriage when it’s truly desired by both parties then yes perhaps that is true. I suppose there are other questions like what kind of sex does a sex robot using man become habituated to given that a sex robot doesn’t have needs of its own nor is consent ever required to do anything to a sex toy. Women do already complain about the effec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:47 AM
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You may laugh but this is the problem for men here, they come with too many ingrained prejudices about what women want and then refuse to listen to what actual women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:34 AM
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I don’t know about those stats a quick google shows one survey from pornhub which isn’t exactly the lofty heights of peer reviews academia but that’s beside the point here. I am not sure one can be addicted to sex with women, that’s not really how addiction works. It is possible to be addicted to sexual experience and orgasm. If one was addicted to sex with women exclusively then in the absence of sex with a woman you’d go through withdrawal and ultimately those cravings would diminish. I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:30 AM
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Well quite, the post I was replying to was implying that sex robots would be an alternative to relationships between men and women given current grievances. However I did think that availability of porn and sex toys still doesn’t for most people take away the longing for other human although they may hinder goal related action. My post though was in response to the initial post which seemed to me to be suggesting robot / men relationships would be an alternative to traditional human relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:16 AM
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I agree that porn is harmful to both men and women but my implication was that frequent hardcore porn escapism takes up precious time and energy and demotivates men from pursuing other goals. Perhaps due to its effect on dopamine baseline?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:01 AM
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You’re missing the point, I’m not talking about what gets you laid I’m talking about what happens in long term relationship with someone you love going through life’s hardships with them and getting your edges knocked off. As opposed to the escapism of a sex robot instead of a real relationship with a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:57 AM
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Because for normal, psychologically healthy individuals relationships usually involve more than sex or financial support. They involved conversations, facing difficult times together, calling each other out on poor behaviour, providing emotional Support to each other, looking after each other, learning to put someone else first at least some of the time, arguments and the resolving those difference, encouraging each other to try something different or see things from another persons point of vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:53 AM
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I did read again and again you are reading through a heavy cloud of biases and seeing what you want to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:35 AM
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Only fans has just over 1 million content creators globally out of 7.5 billion people. Not all of those content creators are women and not every account is pornographic. There are approximately 4 billion women in the world, even if 1 million of them were creating pornographic content on only fans that would only be 0.025% of women globally on only fans and in reality it will be less than that. Your belief that the average woman is doing this is false and perhaps skewed by the content you consume…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:33 AM
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Because as humans our interpersonal development and growth is facilitated through our relationships or attempts at relationships with other humans. A sex doll by creating a proxy for that human relationship but removing all the actually beneficial feedback good and bad that one gets from another human being. A robot programmed to mindlessly serve you will not provide the same real time feedback a human would. Sex robots are an escapist strategy and a dead end for individual growth but it still a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:19 AM
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a subreddit called “dead bedroom” is a self selecting group and doesn’t prove anything and even a quick look at it shows me that men also withhold sex from women. Women don’t need a man who earns more and that’s not what the OP said, I can’t see how you could have read it like that except through the lens of your own preconceived ideas. The last part, that you said was sensible is the actual point she is making, everything else you say is sheer paranoid projecation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:11 AM
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requiring a dude who has to be tall and smooth and have money Typically this isn’t what women are talking when they say men have to offer more, they want someone who can be a real partner to them not someone who wants to be taken care of all the time like a little boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:05 AM
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Women won’t go back into the home full time willingly a lot of women were never fulfilled or even that happy in that role so it’s not something they will ever give up. I don’t buy that a big enough percentage of men are affected by this issue for it to cause major issues, bigger issues are probably things like the free availability of hard core pornography and the chronic masterbating and unrealistic expectations it inspires. An alternative solution is that men grow up and learn to be better par…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:00 AM
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When I was a post grad student I lived in a house share with 2 guys (we were all 23) on my course one night we were all woken up by a window breaking and intruders trying to gain access to the property. My two male housemates hung about upstairs wondering what to do while I flew downstairs putting on all the lights as I went shouting at the intruder to get the fuck out of my house. By the time I got to the point of entry all I saw was the intruders running off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:49 AM
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The average women isn’t on onlyfans, engaging in eprostitution or getting pumped and dumped. Women want more from men than just sex and money isn’t a bargaining chip nor should it be. Women want connection and partnership but if men can’t provide that then better to be single. Sex robots will only further stunt men’s development but at least they may aid in ridding women of unwanted attention from unwanted men who are unsuitable as mates and fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:39 AM
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I know this was deleted but I just wanted to say that I agree with you, I think a lot of men in the manosphere are autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:25 AM
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I think there is some truth in what you say, it’s not all men but many just aren’t that interesting or good company. They are often moody and immature which is draining and dull and they struggle with real intimacy. They are often highly entitled and demand a lot in terms of what they expect from women but offer little in return. Women can make their own money, have their own house, even have a kid on their own if they choose so men need to offer more if they want a woman’s time and attention an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:21 AM
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The phrase about fishermen and fish doesn’t make sense when you use it to talk about humans dating. Fish do not talk, you cannot communicate with them, and we can probably assume they don’t want to be caught, killed or eaten. Human beings of both sexes can communicate (well most can) and most of us are willing to be ”caught” under the right circumstances. It’s probably fair to listen to advice from a range of different people and then as an intelligent, adaptive human being use your own discernm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:10 AM
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Chad's just a paranoid figment of your imagination, he's just any guy who isn't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:12 AM
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Here, let me translate this for you all "I'm bitter and angry man and I resent women for not wanting me, it eats away at me and so I come on here to lash out at them with my spurious accusations"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:09 AM
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Lol, yeah. It's actually a positive most of them don't have the wherewithal to actually have a relationship as they'd make any woman miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:03 AM
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You're paranoid and there is NO truth to any red pill argument its all bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:59 AM
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You sound unhinged OP, get off the Internet and stop reading black pill garbage. Find yourself a nice homely girl who doesn't care your not a looker, bit sort our your mental health first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:51 AM
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Oh dear, you've really lost the plot haven't you? I've only told you the truth, that you know nothing at all about women and that your opinions are just that, your mere opinions. My opinion has more validity here because I am a woman. It's pretty obvious from your posts you have no respect for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:34 PM
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Lol, video games have taken over this one's brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:02 PM
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By the time a man drinks the red pill kool-aid he's already lost his last marble.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 09:58 PM
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You'll be fine, lots of men will want you, your main issue will be ensuring your boundaries are strong enough and your standards are high in regards to what you actually want and need. This will help you weed out all the undesirable men much faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:36 AM
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They'll hate us for seeing right through them but who cares, they should know we're on to them 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:45 AM
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Ignore this guy he's clearly paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:21 AM
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There is no logic to men like this, they hate women, that's your explanation. They hate women but want access to their bodies and to benefit from their domestic labour. This internal conflict creates resentment and suspicion. It's purely an emotional response, best you can do as a women is to cut men like this off completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 09:59 AM
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Meanwhile on back on planet Earth emotionally healthy people form healthy relationships free from these bizarre dynamics and paranoid anxieties all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:41 AM
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You men are so paranoid and lacking in insight it's laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:44 AM
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Yes it's on men, they are the ones that get angry, women might experience disappointment at being unable to fine a man they want to settle down with but they just get on with their lives alone, men have a meltdown when women aren't interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:15 PM
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If a guy has these insecurities and anxieties then it's his hang up to resolve and get over, like we all must overcome our hang ups in order to reach emotional maturity. AFBB is pure paranoia and the sign of deeper psychological issues men need to address before bothering women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:10 PM
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Is this really a topic we can debate? What can I say, boo hoo poor you? 😢 Do what you like it sounds like your not capable of healthy relationships anyway, too paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:56 PM
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Beta Bucks is a totally paranoid fantasy of deeply insecure men. They are men who want to be what they perceive as the hot men they imagine all women want to be with, they may as well be day dreaming about being a rock star or a superhero. They are so immature that they can't accept they are just ordinary men with very ordinary options, they feel demeaned by having to live an ordinary, run of the mill life with an ordinary woman. So they create a narrative of victimhood around thus scenario that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:37 PM
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It's bullshit, like all of the red pill mythology. It's far more likely that the same mental and emotional issues that may drive a woman to engage in promiscuous behaviour with a large number partners are also the same issues that later destabilise her long term relationships or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:07 PM
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You are only stating your mere, inconsequential, invalid opinion, you know nothing of how women interact with each other. I know you have a shitty view of women because you hold blatantly misogynistic views.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:55 PM
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You could substitute therapy with intelligence, a healthy degree of introspection and self awareness but how many people actually possess these skills? How many people are actually even honest with themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:11 PM
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Nope none of them have, I never have. As I say in my op it might be a thing in the SB dating scene but it's not something most women would ever do, our time is to valuable to spend time with a man we don't like for the same of some shitty dinner, we're not homeless, we're not destitute, we can buy our own meals. This is just another paranoid male fantasy which comes from the shitty view some of them hold of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:28 AM
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No I am not, I stated right at the start that hypergamy as discussed by the red pill is a misnomer and misconception. It takes an academic concept, strips it of its correct meaning, its context and then mixes in a whole lot of other paranoid fantasy and serves it up as fact to men who are so desperate to find reasons to demonise women, shift all the blame on them and imply their "evil nature" they swallow it without question. I'm not surprised someone like yourself is tying yourself in knots try…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:23 AM
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There article's are speculative journalism not empirical data.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:03 PM
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I have seen no empirical data and according to you anecdotal evidence isn't valid. You have no reason to believe foodie calls are a thing except for the senario's in your imagination. You are intent on pushing your belief that women are out to dupe men into paying for their food, this intent of yours exposes your deep seated negative attitudes to women, sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:13 PM
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As a woman I am aware that men will always hate woman and they especially hate women now because we are now free to buy our own god damn dinner and no longer rely on unpleasent and undesireable men like yourself. You are and your ilk club together to fabricate little theories about women to justify your hatred of us and then expect us to be accept your shit and lies about us well we don't accept it and we don't have to. As I said you cannot provide any evidence that this is a thing you are just …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:46 PM
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Not all men just men with an axe to grind against women, men who think buying a woman dinner = she must put out for me now. I also do know who you are you are a red pill kool-aid drinker who loves the escapist ideology of the red pill because it allows you avoid any accountability and to blame all your own failings on women, sad, so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:46 PM
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No its convenient for men to invent yet another stick to beat women with, women are the ones who are exhusted with mens shit thats why they are no interested in guys like you any longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:13 PM
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Bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:42 PM
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I never said women are perfectly virtuous (that's your paranoid projection) but that it's a waste of our time to get dressed up (costing time and money) and take time out of our busy day to go out with a man we have no interest in just to get some free shitty dinner, do you really think we're that hard up? If so you are deluded. I see you have your little shield of ooh that's gaslighting if anyone says something you don't agree with when you cannot provide even a shred of evidence that it's actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:33 PM
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No I haven't you are just so determined to hold on to your desperate escapist red pill conception of the world Mr Shotgun"TRP" that you prefer to run your hamster wheel loose than face the baselessness of your fake ideology. You are the ignorant one, you have not bothered to read or understand the research you posted and you know nothing of the academic context in which any of that research sits nor do your red pill brothers in arms. Perhaps most of you are just dumb but some will be willfully i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:00 PM
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The only person I've ever known who was obsessed with getting free meals from his girlfriend, parents, friends, events etc was a man. I've never known a single woman who would waste her precious time in this way. It is laughable. Such arrangements may exist in the realm of sugar dating, or PUA where the underlying dynamic is one of financial transaction but for most women no they don't do this. Men get wound up about foodie calls because they project their own predatory nature on to women. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:08 AM
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It's something I've never done and I've never heard of being done irl by any woman I've known. We can buy or make our own dinner, its not worth the time and effort to go on a date with a gut you have no interest in just to get a free burger. The only person I knew who was obsessed with getting free meals was a guy I worked with. He based his whole week around being able to eat at other peoples homes, his parents, his girlfriends house, other friends houses. On nights he wasn't invited anywhere t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:57 AM
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I have looked at these and my criticism stands and in many cases backs my position up (did you actually read and understand any of them?). Women sometimes practice a hypergamy (as do some men as its a term that applies to both sexes). This is a term used in the social sciences within a that is misappropriated and misused by the manosphere to imply that women are hypergamous by nature, that she is ruled by this inate, genetic drive and that as a result women cannot truly love, only seek utility f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:17 AM
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The idea that I or any woman would go on a date with a guy they are not into just to get a free meal is laughable. We can cook or buy our own delicious dinner thank you very much. On the other hand a man cannot have real PIV sex with himself so it's logical that he might date a girl he has no real interest in just to sleep with her once or twice. In addition sex is riskier ll round than paying $20 for someone's burger and fries. Therefore I conclude that pump and dumps are more of a risk that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:02 AM
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Within the red pill community Rollo Tomassi is the main proponent of the hypergamous model of female motivation. People like Peterson have also used the concept of hypergamy as if it is fundamental to their nature, and he has erroneously suggested that women have in the past played a large role in sexual selection. In the last men typically controlled the resources including women. So Peterson like Tomassi take social structures and limits imposed on women as wrongly interperate those limits on …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:23 PM
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Red pill asserts all women are like this but its actually a small number of women and men who have casual sex and are promiscuous but don't let me piss on your delusions with facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:24 PM
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But there is none, only 5% of men and women are what could be considered and young people now have fewer relationships and less sex that previous recent generations. The cock carousel may be your fantasy but its not reality, there is no evidence for its existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:01 PM
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But it isn't semantics its the fundamentals of meaning and motivation that the whole red pill ideology rests on we are talking about so you can't expect to just gloss over inconsistencies and call it nitpicking when errors in that conception of are raised. When you take these ideas, misrepresent them and muddy the waters with lies about why or how such strategies manifest then you open the door to yet more lies and erroneous thinking. Your saying to me don't look to closely at what I mean by hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:52 PM
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I haven't changed the argument, red pill theory asserts that hypergamy (again as they incorrectly use the word) is an inherent motivation in women, even that its genetic. There is no evidence for that. In a world where historically women have had little agency due to male oppression of them then they would have little choice but to marry a man with more than them and those social conditions still continue to this day, women cannot universally catch up overnight. However in pockets of society whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:33 PM
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Lol sure, where is the proof. Do you have footage of all your great success? I have nothing against low iq men giving their money to a huckster if that's what he wants but it won't get him laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:58 PM
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Cutting and pasting from one study doesn't prove anything. Where are the raw statistics to prove women marry up? Not so long ago women had so few rights in terms of education, employment and voting and property ownership that they had little choice but to marry someone with more of all those markers of status than them but they still married people from the same general class and background. Showing me evidence of millennia of women's oppression doesn't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:55 PM
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I'm a woman and have had experience living in Berlin, London and Edinburgh being approached by these men and it makes my skin crawl. We know inherently when we are getting a sales pitch and only the most vulnerable women are swayed by generic, empty flattery. Getting in shape, making the best of yourself and putting yourself out their is advice anyone could give you and that may have some positive effect. Their suggestions to play a role, to try to manipulate the woman, to break down her resista…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:48 PM
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I said that if it does work, it only works on unhealthy women, there is no victory in that. However most of it is bullshit, smoke and mirrors to separate foolish and desperate men from their money. Many of them pay women and prostitutes to make it look like they are having success when they are not. Look at how many of them travel to parts of the world to exploit economic disparity, to plat the part of the wealthy westerner. If it actually worked wouldn't it work on all women? Look at Troy Franc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:31 PM
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Lol seriously, your just a brainwashed parrot, completely unwilling to think fir yourself because red pill shills like Tomassi offer you a feels good man, no accountability ideology of escapism. I cannot believe that you are saying that him having made it all up and then lying about the data he claims backs his ideas up and my mocking him for that doesn't discredit his ideas! The fact that he's a liar and a fraud is enough, he discredit himself and he's depending on his acolytes being too stupid…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:23 PM
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I don't believe it and I don't see evidence for it. Perhaps if a guy can extract the basic advice from red pill to lose weight, get fit, have some goals, don't just spend your days masterbating and playing video games then that may improve his chances getting a girlfriend however let's be real and not pretend that isn't exactly the same advice your grandma might give you, the red pill doesn't have dibs on that. I don't have time now to look at all your examples but a quick look at John Sonmez, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:13 PM
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Firstly, hypergamy is a misnomer, secondly assortative mating is much more accurate and is engaged in by men and women equally. We choose partners like us. Rollo Tomassi can be roundly criticised for everything in all his books being absolute garbage. Nothing he has written has ever been peer reviewed, he doesn't even engage the services of an editor. All his books are self published and none of them would ever be published by a reputable publishers not because of some anti male, gynocentric con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:03 PM
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I've never seen any proof of this. At best men who hold with the toxic red pill delusion might attract women who are also damaged and they make each others lives hell. Healthy women are repulsed by these ideas as are healthy men. I don't even see any real evidence any of the so called seduction / pua guys are successful with women. There was that one Welsh guy who was in his 30s who did record himself having sex with teenagers and then sold those recordings to his acolytes, but when he got expos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:46 PM
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I'm perfectly calm, you're the one losing your shit and unable to make any coherent argument to support your own stance so you lash out. Let me save you some time. You won't ever be able to make a coherent, fully substantiated argument for red pill ideas because its all bullshit, its all about the feels and completely detached from reality. Langish there for the rest of your life for all I care or wake up and learn to think for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:02 PM
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This isn't true, we all men and women tend to prefer partners who are similar to us in terms of background, education and so on. This is called Assortative Mating. Hypergamy is a misnomer and is used to pedal spurious red pill ideas to uncritical thinkers by using big words they don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:55 PM
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Proponents of red pill ideas do lie about statistics and they lie and misrepresent the science they claim backs their ideology up. There is for example no evidence that women have a "hoe phase" and the cock carousel doesn't exist except in the imagination of red pill men, that is their paranoid fantasy. Only 5% of men and women are what would be considered promiscuous and people are typically having fewer sexual partners now than I previous recent generations. It's funny how anytime you challeng…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:48 PM
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I'm not misinformed about what it is and I didn't say a thing about alt right or trump so you are projecting there. The red pill is a bunch of lies, it made up rubbish that is popular with men because it feels good for them to havevan outlet for their resentment and hated of women, it feels good for them to be told its ok to view them as less than human and to use them (not that many, if any of these guys actually get women). It's an baseless ideology that allows men to avoid any accountability …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:10 PM
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But there is very little actual evidence for how they and the manosphere in general (incorrectly) uses the term. It ends up being a catch all for any reason a woman rejects or leaves a man, hypergamy becomes anything you want it to be. The deviation from its actual meaning makes it in fact imeaningless just like the entire red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:59 PM
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Men shoot themselves in the foot by drinking the red pill kool-aid. Nothing is less attractive than catching even the faintest whiff of that shit from a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:50 AM
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Lol so you prefer to use the completely made up definition of the word within the context of your made up ideology with absolute no basis in reality, I got you 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:43 AM
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Well I'd say the same about the majority of male manosphere content creators. Kevin Samuels made the switch to denigrating women when his perfume reviews were not lucrative enough and he saw the thirst some men have for misogynistic content. You see content creators like Tomassi and Donovan Sharpe who do not live a red pill lifestyle but still push out their red pill content to rake in the cash, $100 super chats, ad revenue, merchandise etc. The red pill space is one huge hustle that exploits me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:24 AM
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Hypergamy refers to the act of both women and men marrying up, for him to frame it as something inherent to only the female is intellectually dishonesty. If he were such a towering infallible intellect you'd think he'd use the correct academic language but he doesn't because he's spinning a "narrative" to dumbed down mass market.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:14 AM
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It's really something that is an individual choice depending on priorities and circumstances. This woman is freezing her eggs because she is single she isn't currently trying to get pregnant. It sounds like she has not had much luck in relationships but she may have other issues relating to sex and intimacy blocking her from getting into an adult relationship. Lots of highly successful female athletes maintain relationships during their career and go on to have families. It is obviously hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:05 AM
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As people garner more life experience they often have a clearer idea of what they want and what sort of treatment and behaviour they are not prepared to put up with. Then they may feel well its better to be single that put up with some shitty abusive guy. It's not about a fantasy life it's about a good life with or without a partner. What about a lot of the men on here? Many of them will never have a relationship or even experience sex with a woman who likes or desires them. Lots of people end u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:50 AM
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Hypergamy doesn't mean what you think it means, it's a term that applies to both men and women marrying up and no not everyone does it or even seeks to do it. Rollo Tomassi the pseudo-intellectual and fraud basterdised the term an used it to pull the wool over all your eyes and now you all go around blindly repeating it. There is a serious lack of critical thinking in those who swallow the red pill ideology, perhaps even a significant deficiency in intelligence that they allow this man to hoodwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:41 AM
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None of this stuff applies to most people. Your post and concerns are only paranoid fantasies of deeply insecure men who are incapable of healthy relationships anyway. The kind of sex he gets is literally the least of his worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:30 PM
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This is exactly why women should wait because a guy who really, really likes you will wait and a guy who would just pump and dump in the scenario you described are not worth sleeping with. It’s about getting to know someone over a period of time and believe me the mask always slips. You view being made to wait for sex as manipulative but that isn the case it’s often more about building trust until you feel safe enough to let someone gain access to your body. However men (especially red pill men)…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:40 AM
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Any one can have the standards they like, If the old ugly guy wants to marry a 21 year old beauty queen then fine. However he also has to respect the standards of the 21 year old beauty queen and accept that she doesn’t have to want him and is in fact highly unlikely to want him. He needs to accept rejection without becoming angry or resentful. The problem comes where that man feels entitled to a woman who doesn’t want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:21 AM
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Lol, he’s not charismatic, he’s not even good looking. He’s a liar, the money he has comes from his father (which he lies about) and from running a pyramid scheme (which are illegal). He has openly admitted he lives in Romania because it’s easier to get away with rape there. He is currently being investigated for trafficking women. His ideas are not received positively by the mainstream most people are appalled by this odious man. He only appeals to low IQ men who either believe he can make them…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:13 AM
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Well I am more talking about the ideology and how it frames women. However if the manipulation tactics do work I believe they would typically work better on traumatised, vulnerable people. I think healthier individuals intuitively understand the danger from manipulative people where as traumatised people are drawn towards it. All round it’s a tragic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:01 PM
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My heart bleeds for you, so sorry it’s been so hard for you to dupe and exploit women if it’s any consolation you’ve completely nailed being a douche bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:59 AM
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No not really some of the most courageous people most likely to intervene and say or do something if there is a dangerous situation have been women and some of the most emotionally supportive and caring have been men. Should I scoff at the value these people have brought to various situations just because it doesn’t fit gender norms, no of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:55 AM
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Most women are not promiscuous and they don’t engage in casual sex I think stats show only about 5% of men and women are genuinely promiscuous and people are becoming less promiscuous these days. Just another reason why red pill theories are bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:46 AM
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The red pill doesn’t help men it condemns them to misery, everything about red pill ideology can be easily disproved. The red pill lies about statistics, misrepresents and lies about science and most of it is just completely made up. The red pill exists to extract cash from men through ad revenue (YouTube views), courses, chats, merchandis, books etc. Content creators have a vested interest in keeping men trapped in misery, anger and hatred because that’s what keeps the the bucks rolling in. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:31 AM
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All the things you mention about women doing are things only a small percentage of women capitalise on. Most women do not use there sexuality in this way, most women are very average looking even when young. Most guys are not rich or even a bit wealthy so why would he be objectified financially when we can earn just as much or more than him? Your post sounds bitter and resentful you want to hold this position because you want to avoid accountability for your own proclivities and holding this bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:59 AM
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It does prey on men, it's founders and gurus are frauds and liars only interested in the money they can make and they don't care what lies they tell or who they hurt and they don't care about men, they have a vested interest in keeping you down. Everything single theory or basis for the red pill is easy to disprove by anyone who cares to check but most just take it on uncritically because it gets them emotionally. It feels good to men to hear its not them who are lacking or who failed but that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:47 AM
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The red pill is bullshit everything about it is a lie. It only exists to make men miserable and to then milk them for cash. Rollo Tomassi is a fraud, and all his theories or rather his spurious opinions which make up much of the red pill ideology are easily debunked by anyone who cares to check up on the supposed evidence he uses, he gets away with it because most who ingests his shit never think critically about it and he's banking on people not checking up on him. Forget everything you ever le…
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 12:22 AM
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More fool you but loads of guys are out there sending those guys $100 superchats, probably whack off to them too. If you watch them on yt use ad block, deprive them of every penny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 12:13 AM
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The thing is that most women don’t go out with just bad boys before settling down most are with the guys who they dated in college and then they get married to those same guys at 30ish. This whole red pill model only applies to a minority of people but red pill devotees take that small minority and extrapolate it to all women and then disseminate those views as scientific fact. I more or less agree with the op that these ideas only resonate with very damaged people who are perhaps pretty exclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:08 AM
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Luckily for you no woman will come near you so you are safe, thank god!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:02 AM
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Well so many guys are dirt bags who fail to take responsibility when it comes to their children. You cannot complain about women divorcing men until you know what happened. Men will go online and cry that they were a good man, there wife is divorcing because she‘s a heartless witch who got bored and discarded him for chad. What they won’t tell you about is the years of emotional, psychological, sexual and even physical abuse they subjected her to. How they had addiction issues to porn, drugs or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:01 AM
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Your deranged if you are actually a woman then seek mental health support for your own internalised misogyny. If you are a man seek help for your misogynistic views before you hurt someone. There is no way you are a happy person either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:49 AM
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If a man doesn’t have a male to confide in then that’s a failure of men to provide support to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:46 AM
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Sorry you lost me at “scientific” nothing about red pill is science based, only low Iq people who don’t see the wool being pulled over their eyes think red pill nonsense is scientific. Red pill is just old guys exploiting you to extract some money from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:45 AM
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The red pill will only help men attract damaged women who because of previous trauma are drawn into unhealthy situations and to other damaged people. In the end both those men and women will only bring each other more pain and further damage them. I think it’s likely that some people are just doomed to live unhappy lives because they don’t have the wherewithal to see through there own bullshit to get to a place they can heal. The red pill is one of many dead ends that appeals to such broken peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:41 AM
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No the red pill is a misogynist cult, that preys on men who failed in relationships. It leverages their resentment and bitterness towards women by feeding that bitterness and then milks the stupidest of those men for money, so you then end up with a situation where sad lonely men are simping for baldy old guys sending them $$$ online. It would probably make more sense of those guys were at least getting a nut over it, perhaps that’s what is happening, guys jacking off over Rich Cooper? In the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:35 AM
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This isn’t true, women also don’t like it when their sons date much older women. I do know Some age gaps relationships going both ways and for me it’s always pathological, boys With mommy issues and girls with daddy issues coupled with older adults who struggle to maintain the interest of adults their own age. Anyone with half a brain remembers how dumb you were in your teens and twenties and how inappropriate a relationship would be with someone that age. Of course there are selfish individuals…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:27 AM
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Nope I have literally real world experience of working with prostitutes over many years. You are an internet windbag who doesn't have a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:23 PM
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You can keep saying the word safe but it's meaningless. It's been done and it doesn't work. Come back and talk to me when you've done years of work with prostitutes and tell me what you think. Until then your opinions on the matter are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:49 PM
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We are talking about prostitution. Supposed safe, legal brothels in countries where prostitution is legal are not safe. I don't think prostitutes should be criminalised for selling sex, the men buying it should be. Unfortunately legalising Prostitution doesn't work to make these women safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:38 PM
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Women are still beaten, abused and raped in legal brothels, there not "safe" environments for women. Women are still trafficked in to work in legal (and illegal)brothels in countries where prostitution is legal and making prostitution legal doesn't make these women automatically safe it just increases demand. There will still be highly marginalised and vulnerable Women on the streets in countries where prostitution is legal and these women will still be murdered by the men who pay them for sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:38 AM
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High class prostitutes still get raped, beaten and murdered. There is no "ok" prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:15 AM
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By willingly providing the services or buying them you are creating a demand and perpetuating a cycle of abuse and exploitation, end of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:14 AM
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I've worked for years with prostitutes, seen and heard what has happened to them and had a childhood friend murdered by a client. That's my reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:11 AM
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I don't know who that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:33 PM
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Feminists who think prostitution or "sex work" as they call it is a ok, empowering and so on are plain wrong and clearly have no experience of working with women groomed or trafficked into prostitution. Anyone male or female who engages in or supports prostitution freely is part of the problem, no ifs or buts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:38 PM
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It's fine to want sex but its shameful buy into or perpetuate a cycle of abuse and exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:32 PM
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Men who used prostitutes are pathetic abusers who should be shamed. Using prostitutes creates demand which encourages grooming and trafficking of women into prostitution. I've worked at a non profit with prostitutes and seen too many women beaten, abused, raped and murdered to have any sympathy for the men who buy sex. Shame on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:28 PM
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Yeah you need to get the right style to suit your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:22 AM
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Hmm no women aren't a hivemind however they may use similar stock phrases while giving a man they have no interest in the brush off, it seems likely that this is what you are experiencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:07 AM
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No they don't know how women think, women are individual human beings not some hive mind. Those guys selling you info are frauds. Some people are naturally charismatic. All you can do is be your authentic self. If you play games and try and play to a player pick up script that is so off putting and fake. Not attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:37 AM
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I've only really listened to the podcast and I enjoy it it's amusing. I think they have some good ideas about women having standards and boundaries and not giving up or lowering them. I can't really comment on the sub reddit. I am very happily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:24 AM
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Personally I think everyone looks hotter in glasses but then a womaniser glasses or not would be of no interest to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:21 AM
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I'm not convinced that any PUAs are that successful, what they say and the truth are two different things, never forget they want your money. Some non super hot guys get lucky with girls because they are funny, charismatic, sexy, smart etc. It's not something you can learn. Look at how often PUA gurus tell you to travel to meet women. What's really happening there is you are leveraging geographic economic differences to get women. All the PUAs really have is to say approach, be in shape, wear de…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:19 AM
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"As in self improvement is obvious but the direct approach is very much a well kept secret. As in anyone who actually knows how to get women directly, will either keep that secret or sell it for a hefty price, see most coaches and the good ol PUA's." All of the above is bullshit, there is no special formula to "get women". PUAs are grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:43 PM
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Men literally don't even see women they aren't attracted to, they tune them out So everything they post here should be considered within that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:56 AM
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Male Hypergamy!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:49 AM
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But ... but female hypergamy? Surely only women pull that kind of shit, men love for real and women are purely opportunistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:48 AM
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Gross, younger women aren't interested in guys thar much older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:43 AM
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It seems pretty obvious that most red pilled men are "failures" in love, relationships and the mating game. They turn to red pill theories to account for these failures in a way that preserves the ego and shifts blame elsewhere; dating apps, society, the government and of course women. So called blue pilled people haven't suffered the same abject failures as most red pilled people and so do not need to resort to red pill ego sparing ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:34 AM
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Most educated, successful, middle class + people I know are usually with the person they will marry by late 20s early 30s. Their 20s are spent in education, building careers, traveling and saving money for house deposits. They marry about 30 - 35 and have kids thereafter. They have less kids but invest in them more heavily so they can be more successful. They have substantially lower divorce rates than the average. They aren't "wine aunts" or guys being sexless while getting their shit together,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:10 PM
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That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it's irrelevant here. OP framed his post to suggest his stated outcome is inevitable but it's not, there are other quite feasible options. Just because he doesn't like them doesn't negate them. So his thesis is a bust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:51 PM
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Lots of men also claim benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:29 PM
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That's just how it goes, doesn't wind me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:28 PM
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I'm a working woman and proud to pay my taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:36 PM
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HRT really helps in your 40s as we're all most likely in perimenopause at this age.
/r/RedPillWives11/07/22 11:01 AM
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High enough to fund a full range of state Services and Security Benefits and while your at it, Americ should stop calling it “Welfare”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:14 PM
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I’m saying increase the rate of tax progressively, tax high earners more, tax wealth and inheritance at a higher rate, tax corporations at a FAR higher rate. Pay for social security by taxing rich people much more. This is done in other countries far more civilised than the US to good effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:00 PM
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Last I checked women also pay tax also no idea where you get any threat of violence. However op we get it, we see you for what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:57 PM
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Honestly the US state should just introduce more progressive taxes, tax personal wealth, inheritance and corporations at much higher rates. It won’t of course because your government is in service to those that hoard and accumulate wealth, the very same entities who evade and avoid paying tax, all that should be cracked down on. I’m not an American but from the outside it looks pretty messed up with its attitudes towards taxes, social security and the provision of health care. You seem fixated o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:52 PM
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Yeah it’s toxic, I feel like reading what so many of the men write here, their aggression and hate towards me as a women is harmful, it reactivates my trauma from growing up inside the patriarchy, all the hateful and shameful things I’ve absorbed about what being a woman means. We internalise these things and almost believe they are true even when we have no evidence to that end. Then these angry men here scream it in our face to hurt and abuse us. I came here thinking I could help but I’m only …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:43 PM
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This is it exactly, men like the OP do not see women as actual human beings but as an object he should have access to and he’s angry at a system that gives women any sort of financial freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:34 PM
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This argument literally boils down to you saying welfare benefits should be removed because this would force women (especially mothers) to become dependent on men again. I did research for a documentary series here in the UK and listened to hours and hours of archive recordings of working class women who were married with children, living with their husbands and the problems they had. They spoke of how their husbands abused them and the children through beatings, cruelty and rape. The husbands w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:31 PM
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I think both sexes love romantically, obviously even when young some people may just want a boyfriend / girlfriend to fit in or to have sex but I think that initial first love is very romantic, idealistic and naive. Once you've been there once or twice you begin to realise that romance isn't everything and that relationships aren't some sort of static state of ecstasy. Life goes on, other things happen or take priority. You realise that other things are important like a person being trustworthy,…
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 12:43 PM
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See you are absolutely trying to shoehorn some element of red pill ideology into your reply by Grasping at straws. Nowhere in my post do I say that my friends are attempting to date chad or have ever dated Chad, I do say hypothetically that is women are using an unrealistic criteria for online dating then that is perhaps a reaction to the sheer number of responses women get on dating apps i.e. It’s just another distortion. My friends don’t care about Chad they just want and have decent, loving m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:29 AM
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Well that's fine it is your opinion, just be wary of putting to much stock into something with very little credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:17 AM
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I have no idea what your on about, what guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:06 AM
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"And i really, REALLY believe that evo psych has bad rep because the psychology field is notoriously filled with woke progressive people, and research that points against pro choice/freedom/liberal nature in humans has in, any kind of determinism is going to suffer backlash regardless of being true or not." What you really, really believe is irrelevant, it's literally not respected by the majority of experts in that field, including lots of unwoke old men. If you feel that strongly feel free to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:04 AM
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Well cool it looks like we're are on the same page! Absolutely with you on defense spending as acway to fund it. I'd also increase progressive taxation but I'm European.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:06 PM
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Well mostly I undress for practical reasons but sure I do get naked to have sex with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:32 PM
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I would absolutely not object to policy that helps men succeed in life but I don't believe it needs to be a zero sum game in that women must lose for men to win or vice versa. u/goatismycopilot makes an excellent point below, however to address these political issues is often anathema to red pill men for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:30 PM
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I'm not personally interested in casual sex but if I were and the 25 yo was mature enough then yes I would sleep with him but as I said I'm not interested in casual sex. I'd prefer sex within a full relationship and for me that means I'd prefer a man much closer to my own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:52 PM
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Not for me I dress to please myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:48 PM
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I'm not sure what you are implying, that womens education leads to increased Divorce? As a previous poster suggests educated women get divorced less often.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:47 PM
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Woosh, you just don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:49 PM
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Good grief this sub is irredeemable!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:29 PM
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Not true, lots of nice guys hit on me and other women. A decent guy takes a rejection graciously and does not hassle you. This is what happens most of the time, this is fine, women don't mind this. Some men a minority, asks you out and when you reject him he turns into your stalker or just get plain nasty to you, work for them they make your life hell, work or go to collage with them they try to humiliate you or spread lies and rumours about you. So what I said if you weren't so hell bent of twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:03 PM
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Giving you an honest response about the experience of myself and women I know is not being dishonest, what a bizarre way to frame it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:08 PM
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From what I've read coeducational schools typically benefit boys and single sex schools benefit girls. It's obviously more complex as in single sex schools girls are subject to more intense peer group pressure and incidents of eating disorders rise in single sex schools. On balance I think coeducation is better. I think that the culture of kids or teens is a different thing that is about longer lifespans, improved standards of living, increased disposable incomes, longer adolescence and the desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:06 PM
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No that wasn't the exact study I found, the one I saw was done by doctors because men lie about penis size in surveys. Anyway your the penis obsessive. I just ride them and I'm telling you most guys don't have "big" penises and they get wives and partners just fine. If you sit at home stewing over your perceived short fall and how it's pointless to even try because women will never be satisfied by you well perhaps you are right because women don't want someone with such major hang ups. Ultimatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:45 PM
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Could this have something to do with American culture in general, rampant individualism, lack of any safety net, belief that you'll be the one to be rich one day, so fuck the losers? As a European looking in the US has a fucked up culture in general. I'm not saying Americans are bad people but the culture appears to suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:38 PM
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Well I found one saying something different where doctors physically measured men's dicks and found the 3.5 inch to 5.8 inch. A self reported study showed average dick size being a bit bigger as men added the odd vanity inch. I really do think men care more about the size of their dicks than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:49 AM
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On my other post here I say that in the UK the average penis size goes from 3.5 to 5.8 inches. None of these penises would be considered large but the women of the UK get by with them just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:18 AM
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Evolutionary Psychology as presented by the red pill isn’t a particularly respected field of psychology, there a a lot of critiques of it that point to the fact that much of its theory being based on assumption as opposed to evidence which isn’t very scientific at all. The idea that our behaviour is motivated by pure instinct doesn’t have a lot of traction in more scientific, respected fields of psychology where beyond a small number of instinctive behaviours in babies there isn’t much evidence …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:14 AM
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Well you really are big penis fan! Perhaps I have a tiny vagina but I do not personally prefer a bigger penis and found the larger penis painful and unpleasurable. See my other post on this post for further details.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:45 AM
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So as a woman I’ve never been especially attracted to tall men, I think 5 foot 8 is perfect and I’ve dated shorter. I’ve also dated a 6 foot 2 guy. If anything tall is a slight turn off for me as I prefer the way a shorter guys body fits with mine but basically I don’t care about height. Penis size well I have only had 2 sexual partners, my first was a tall guy with a large penis (don’t worry he wasn’t a Chad, think Garth from Waynes World and I met him playing D&D) I went out with him for 2 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:39 AM
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“strongly attracted to big dicks” Now thats a bit of a stretch 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:31 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:26 AM
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I think it’s safe to say that capitalism ruthlessly exploits every vulnerability one may have to turn a dollar. I don’t think anyone has an issue with men going their own way, supporting each other in the choice to stay single and focus on their own development. The problem society has with groups like Mgtow is that these spaces become not pro-man but misogynistic venues for stirring up ever increasing hatred of women, those spaces are obsessed with women, it’s all they ever talk about. I’d be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:02 AM
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Someone who crosses a picket line, i.e. a worker who goes to work when their fellow workers are on strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:25 AM
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Yeah, I have good friends that use it and there experiences interest me, It feels like 15 years ago people were finding online dating useful then something changed, the apps perhaps, smart phones or just enough time for the culture to change? In 2005 for example it was still seen as a bit sad to use online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:54 AM
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Honestly just be yourself and Don't worry about gender stereotypes as defined by red pill or any other ideology and don't worry about pinning down your sexuality or preferences that's an in practice trial and error thing. I think if we are authentic and open them we attract the right people for us so focus on that. I also don't really buy into the whole gender, label evey last bit of yourself ideology that seems popular at present, I think it's really appealing to young people when you are tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:02 AM
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Well to be fair when I said about men having more partners I was talking about my friends who are late 30s - 50s so Genx or older millennials. Some guys no doubt are prolific shaggers, but there are also some women like that and it's likely those two cohorts are having a lot of sex together while the rest of us sit home alone. Most women have sex within monogamous relationships with guys who ate much like them and some women have no boyfriend and no sex. Can women get sex easier than men if want…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:51 AM
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Well guys of all ages hit on me all the damn time and don't even seem to pay too much attention to my wedding ring so I can't say I've encountered this hesitancy from men to flirt or try it on. I have encountered some men who get nasty when you turn them down and I have a watertight reason, I'm married. That bad, and it's creepy to be persistent if you've been turned down already. That goes for the girls as well but to just ask someone out shouldn't be seen in such harsh terms even if unwanted. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:15 AM
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Well it's pointless for me to try and convince you otherwise I expect, it's genuinely not my experience or perception though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:03 AM
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I'm talking about hyperfocusing on a definitive reason for something because even general trends don't map neatly onto individual experiences. I don't know exactly what you think but I get the feeling you think most young women are having lots of sex with multiple partners, how many fo you think 10, 20, 50? Thinking most young women are all having casual sex with a lot of different men is a paranoid fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:00 AM
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I'm not especially familiar with fds it doesn't seem that healthy to me and I'm not really on board with anything that takes people further away from their authentic, vulnerable selves. We should be playing less games like this, not coming up with new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:53 AM
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OK I do get it being young is intense and perspective is typically lacking, that's part of being young not being able to see the bigger picture and looking for reason and resolution where it there is none.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:50 AM
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Your losing me son, I knew you had a pretty fixed idea of things but come on now! It's all a conspiracy sure why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:47 AM
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Well I'm not a fan of dating apps myself I have a few friends who met their partner on apps in the mid 2000s but since then the do seem to have degenerated into hook up apps but as I said above young people both male and female are having less sex than previous generations so again it's that promiscuous minority getting all the sex as opposed to all women having dozens of sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:42 AM
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I suppose as someone who lived before online dating it was more like you meet someone socially or at uni or work, you got to know them and overtime you would both realise there was something there, banter turns to flirting, the sexual tension ramps up and bingo your snogging at the Christmas party. You weren't just cold approaching but getting to know people irl and letting it happen organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:38 AM
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Well I'm not so sure. I've only ever slept with 2 men in my life and I'm 44. My single friends who are around my age I think the men have had more partners as they will have sex with women they don't see as a long term prospect just to have sex where as most of the women see sex as part of establishing a ltr. They probably have had quire a few more partners than me due to having had multiple long terms boyfriend over 20 - 30s years but most don't hit double digits. Things maybe different for muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:34 AM
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I think it varies from person to person, its a small sample size so perhaps not useful statistically. What's your thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:21 AM
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Your mum sounds feisty, no wonder she had those grandpa's buzzing round her!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:19 AM
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Not many I think but then people get ever more adept at fooling others znd themselves, it turns ordinary decent men and women into sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:16 AM
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I think at best from red pill we can learn that some men are very unhappy and looking for answers, I don't think red pill seriously provides those but I think the question of what men want is interesting and not to be dismissed out of hand. Blue pill, well I'm not sure how to categorise that as it seems to cover a much broader range of beliefs than red pill. Perhaps they could learn that women do still face inequality, that women are not just objects or their to serve men, that women will not ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:13 AM
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True, if I were single I wouldn't have ruled out Mr 50 completely because in theory he's not too old for me. He was an older looking 50 though. As always it depends on the individual and I like sex so would want to have a man with working equipment for as long as possible so a bit younger is better imo, perhaps this is your mum's thinking as well 😲
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:49 PM
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Dating apps are as far as I can tell total trash. Women receive 100s of messages from men who just messages every woman looking for a bite so it's easy for the women to get jaded and defensive or for a decent reply to be lost in the inbox deluge. Men get fed up crafting careful messages targeted to specific women they actually like which never get a reply so they end up doing what most guys do swiping right on everyone and sending out low effort "how's you" messages to every woman hoping for a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:41 PM
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I'm 44 and I agree with 25 -35 but that is purely physical / sexual. For a relationship I'd prefer within 5 years of my age, compatibility trumps looks for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:44 PM
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I'm 44 and married but the last guy that hit on me (a couple of weeks ago) was fifty and while I wasn't interested or available if I had been he felt borderline too old for me, attractive guy but just too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:40 PM
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I think that it's less that life is mundane but by the time you get to your 40s life will have kicked you in the teeth a good few times illness, failure, loss, grief. Your more aware what can go wrong. It's not all bad of course you do hopefully gain some wisdom and perspective you realise a lot of stuff doesn't matter and that can be attractive in it's own way, at least to other mature people. I have a friend who is in his 40s and he loves young people (lucky as he's a teacher) his view is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:30 PM
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The other week my BIL came round our house with his new apprentice, he was 22, nice looking boy but when he opened his mouth his immaturity and childishness was apparent. I'm not knocking him he was a nice boy but he was a boy. While he was nice looking I'd feel like a preditor if I tried to get him into bed, I couldn't feel sexy with someone who was mentally so inexperienced in life. It's incredible how daft very young people sound to older people again no meanness meant, that's just how it is,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:16 PM
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They do as long as they don't open their mouths! I'm joking, kind of 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:08 PM
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I'm in my 40s and purely physically younger men are more attractive it depends on the guy as some might look very boyish until they are well into their 20s and that would be less appealing now to me although my preference when I was that age. Now a guy of 25 - 35 as long as he's physically mature is most sexually appealing to me. However I wouldn't be interested in just casual sex with a much younger man and I'd prefer to date a guy around my own age for non physical reasons such as same life st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:27 PM
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I sometimes frequent mumsnet and most of the relationship discord from women’s POV seems to be cheating of some description, porn use, sex worker use, the husband checking out of the marriage and parental duties by way of excessive working or hobbies, I don’t think working or hobbies are an issue of themselves but excessive time or money spent on them is especially when the mother feels it’s used to evade parenting duties or leads to inappropriate spending. Addiction issues, heavy drinking, drug…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:09 PM
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So I’ve said this before on here but my experience is the opposite. I can think of at least 6 long term relationships where the woman is between 8 and 18 years older than her husband but literally none where the woman is that much younger than the man. I know a few where the guy is three years older than his wife but that’s practically the same age. If I really rack my brains, my Dad’s cousin is married to a guy 5 years older than her but he was a Pop star when she married him so he had extra al…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:46 PM
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It sounds like you’ve been watching boring tiktoks of boring women saying stuff like, he has to treat me like a queen, secure the bag and other such bullshit, which is mostly just to attract views and stir up drama. Most women are happy to split the bill and would prefer that over pay inequality any day! On a more serious note the pay gap has to do with complex things like childbearing which has a life long impact on a woman’s ability to earn, save for retirement and so on. Even if a woman works…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:24 PM
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I think there is a correlation between reddit use (and Internet use in general) with introversion but I don't think that extends to looks, perhaps you would be surprised who posts on here? Introversion in itself may lead to increased introspection and insight but upto 40% of the female population may introverted and they aren't all on here. So it would be remiss to assume that women on here are so vastly different to women in the general population. It is possible that the experience of the majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:08 PM
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Can you say why it would feel off for you to do this? I think that people assume women will want to be primary care givers to newborns and babies especially if they are breastfeeding but once that part is over its becoming more normalised especially where the woman is the breadwinner / highest earner for the man to take over. I don’t really find it strange as it’s so normal now And makes sense for a lot of families.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:41 PM
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Yes, some may be primarily motivated out of fear due to personal experience or perhaps that of their mother to be financially independent and never have to rely on a man or anyone other than themselves that’s a person with trauma. Most career women have multiple reasons for why their career is important to them just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:35 PM
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I’m sorry you had your heart broke or at least stamped on, it happens to us all sadly. I wonder if she choose you almost because of your distance because in reality she wasn’t ready for a serious relationship? Then when you start to be emotionally available to her and open to a proper relationship (a good thing) she then backs off because She’s not ready or capable of that level of intimacy yet. It sucks but it happens especially when we’re young and all bouncing around colliding into each other…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:47 AM
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Ok so my initial feeling is that you are talking about an explicit personal experience and then extrapolating that to “all women”. An alternative interpretation might be: In this case the woman might be seeking comfort as a way to establish or recover emotional connection / desire in the relationship, essentially projecting her feelings of disengagement onto her boyfriend. He then attempts to provide this comfort to her, when she receives this comfort and it doesn’t take her to a place where she…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:31 AM
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I think that mostly it’s because they got to know each other and clicked and attraction grew from that. Sometimes attraction is immediate and visual and if you’re lucky that person like you and you have a connection or you get to know each other, there is a connection or spark and then over time physical attraction grows. In addition not everyone likes the same type of guy / girl some girls like skinny guys with glasses, others like muscle bound gym rats, others like hairy guys with a dad bod. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:58 AM
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It’s really the other way round, he takes something that may be the driving motivation for a very small number of outliers and applies it to the majority of career women. It’s a truly ridiculous assumption on his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:46 AM
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A lot of women feel stifled and become depressed looking after their children and being a sahm 24/7. Back in the 50s and 60s loads of women were drugged up on Valium to cope with how unfulfilled and trapped they felt at home. Women are not just baby making machines who are ultimately fulfilled by child rearin, of course for many women it’s a vital part of their lives (for men too) but that doesn’t mean they stop wanting other things, to contribute in other ways or have a different identity outsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:39 AM
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People these days marry someone like them doctors marry Other doctors, teachers marry teachers. Most middle class men for example will not marry a working class, uneducated women no matter how hot or nice she is, sure they will sleep with her but they don’t invite her to their friends weddings or marry them because she won’t fit in. A few very old rich guys might marry the stripper in an Anna Nicole Smith type scenario but it’s rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:29 AM
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Well you may as well say are some people selfish people, of course or even better is everyone selfish at some point, yes! Your argument fails because although you attempt to frame a section of women as selfish using a very narrow qualifier it’s impossible to to do so because all those women will have a mix of reasons for being career focused just like a man would. Some of it will be financial including wanting to support their family, some will be for fulfilment, some will be to contribute to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:22 AM
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Nailed it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:12 AM
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Would you have a problem if the man were to be the main carer and give up work to look after you children while his career focused wife (the higher) earner goes out and earns to provide for her family? I know of several couple who have done this and it has worked out well for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:11 AM
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I’m an artist and I work to create, to communicate to others, to enrich the discourse in my field, to hopefully bring joy to others. I am very lucky to make an income from this which allows me to continue working as an artist and and to support my loved ones. I am also married and my husband is a high earner so I don’t work out of fear, if I had to my work could support me and him if he was unable to work. My income contributes to our standard of living and the help we can afford our families. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:05 AM
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Honestly you're not making a lot of sense to me and I feel you are willfully failing to understand my responses. In general in this day and age most childfree couples both work, they could potentially live off one person's salary male or female depending on their lifestyle and income but mostly both would work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:24 PM
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Because she wasn't just a normal housewife, what do you class as normal anyway? She acted like a manager and secretary to him, a private chef when he needed special food, that's hours cooking for 7 people everyday, she managed his finances, investments, properties. I've worked a lot with footballers if you don't know footballers then they are like wee boys even when they are playing, they don't really grow up until they hit mid 30s and retire, some never do. Most rely heavily on their wives to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:05 AM
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I think it takes a combined income to have a decent standard of living these days. Life is cheaper without kids but then as a non parent the woman can go on to make more income herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:48 AM
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Yeah I think you have a point. A lot of guys complain about being invisible to women while only seeing the women they find sexy and desirable. Then they project whatever they want onto those women regardlessof who she really is, they might be angels to one man, a whore to another, lazy and carefree to some or ruthless manipulators grafting to secure the bag to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:32 AM
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Yeah she was impressive, I found working with footballers that lots of girls fancy the job of footballers wife from the outside seeing only the glamour but few were as keen on the graft and restrictions that go with it. It wouldn't be for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:11 AM
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Most women know they cannot rely on marrying a man wealthy enough to allow them to sit back and relax and ignore their future financial security. Even if they do get married most men don't earn enough to single handedly keep a family afloat. Many mothers can barely afford to take maternity leave and even still their earning potential suffers because they have children. I think you are projecting a lot onto the women you see, some may just be young and not yet thinking seriously about the future,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:44 AM
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This isn't true at all, I had a very wealthy ex-footballer (uk) attempt to remove me from my marriage with promises of taking care of me forever etc. I turned him down flat and eventually had to leave my job working for him due to his repeated strong advances. One woman I know who did marry an English Premier League footballer didn't work but she didn't do nothing. She had 5 kids to the guy, had to basically act as a personal assistant to her husband organising every aspect of his life so he cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:32 AM
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I don't think I would find a man attractive based on his success but I guess if I found a man attractive in general and he was successful in some sphere of his life that would add to his attractiveness. I think it just shows other positive qualities like determination, intelligence, reliability, commitment and so on which hopefully translate to other parts of his life and make him a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:05 PM
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I wonder if this job interview vibe is an extension of online dating being like advertising yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:06 PM
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I don't think that's true at all but perhaps for people who have been in and out of relationships for decades, been abused, cheated on, abandoned etc then perhaps they do become harder headed. I still don't think most are just out for themselves but I can see how they may be more wary and have strong requirements of a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:04 PM
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I think that it might be possible that as we get older and the reality if life sets in having to keep a roof over your head or food on the table, the understanding that money worries are a horrible life sapping thing to endure that someone male or female who just takes and doesn't contribute in any way can be problematic. After all adults are not children and things like illness, education or caring responsibilities aside we all have to contribute what we can to our families and communities. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:46 PM
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The alpha widows thing is paranoid horseshit. I've seen both men and women hung up on people from their past. It's usually a sort of defensive mechanism where the memory of the "one that got away" or the person who rejected them comes to represent a potential idealised self and life, none of it based in reality and with very little to do with sex. It's usually based in underlying feelings of unworthiness and trauma. It effectively can block you from taking positive action in your life and apprec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:17 PM
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I feel like this sort of black and white thinking is a sort of cognitive defect and the basis for a lot of depression and pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:53 PM
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What about the men who are happy with the 35 + year old women they are with who they have been with since they were 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:50 PM
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I'd say most average people men and women are just muddling along completely unaware of the red pill nonsense. Lots of women are very happy with their nice average joe guys and have no idea their supposed to be lusting after tatted up assholes and their partners aren't constantly paranoid about it. I really think the red pill stuff must just chime with certain guys due to having had bad / traumatic experiences in the past and the red pill philosophy creates for them an illusion of control the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:46 PM
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I'm not convinced that's totally true althoughit may have some truth. I think it more that a greater amount of our experiences and connections are mediated via the screen/ technology and not everyone is good on paper. As we get more reliant on digital means of connection it gets harder, more taboo irl and those who fail to shine on paper do worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:43 AM
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I know some women will complain that her husband will just stick it in rather than do foreplay and provide clitoral stimulation to get her going prior to piv. Or that the man just jackhammer away at her with no sensuality. I don't think I've ever heard a woman complain that her husband isn't chocking her or throwing her about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:35 AM
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My husband isnt rough at all he's gentle and respectful but the sex is amazing. He just knows how to have sex with me and give me maximum pleasure. That's my real life female experience. I don't want to be choked or spat on or held upside down and hammered. I want to give and receive sensual pleasure. I do think alot of these ideas of getting dominated in bed come more from what people see in porn then try to emulate as opposed to what actually feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:30 AM
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So in my experience we all have a mix of masculine and feminine qualities or energy. I think we are attracted to or gravitate towards people who compliment us, and perhaps provide strength in our weak spots and vice versa. I think that's why a one size fits all model like red pill is not much use because we're all different and trying to shoe horn yourself into an artificial mode of presenting in relationships is potentially going to alienate you from your best matches. They see a false version …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:22 AM
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I think attraction is to some extent idiosyncratic but by all means make the best of your appearance. Be aware that not all people like the same thing so some will like a very groomed appearance others will prefer a lower maintenance look. However attraction will not be sustained by healthy individuals if a person is unpleasant, boring, cruel etc. The people these unpleasant traits do not put off will be unhealthy individuals themselves, damaged in someway and acting out previous trauma. That ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:05 AM
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Starting HRT early (prior to menopause) and using collagen induction methods can essentially offset the effects of menopause on appearance especially if people never smoked, drank, sunbathed from an early age. I think in the future womens appearance will hold far longer that we see currently, we're already seeing outliers. This ought to be good for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:29 AM
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I'm over 35 and much happier now than when I was younger. I think its that your life is set up, there is less uncertainty, you know who you are, who your people are, you're less insecure, care less what people think. Lots of women (like myself) were never beautiful so never really had all that privilege but still got harrased and objectified which is miserable experience. Being older your less of a target and that's such a relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:14 AM
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I'm an average looking woman and what I notice is that your just sort of invisible most of the time. I did notice that people especially guys would see a beautiful girl and sort or project all sorts of positive qualities onto them and bestow them with depths they may not have actually possessed. I suppose this could go for beautiful people of both sexes the halo effect? Things that were difficult was when I worked in the film industry years ago in the camera department there was was heavy cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:31 AM
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Its not a double standard its because the two situations are really incomparable. Motherhood reduces a womans earning capacity pretty much forever, her career and earning potential will never be the same as a mans or childfree women ever again because mothers will require more flexible working, part-time working and so on to be there for her child. Many children go into expensive childcare most days so the mother can work but nurseries won't keep a child who is ill or often who has even a minor …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:57 PM
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I wonder though if men and women who do build strong friendships may end up finding each other attractive even if that was not initially the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:29 PM
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No because women are the ones getting pregnant, their bodies it is there choice what they do. I do agree though that everyone should take more responsibility about having sex and realise its a reproductive act with consequences so if your going to so it at all you need to be aware of the risks and double down on the contraception. However it does have more impact on a woman's life and body so she should retain the option of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:57 PM
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You made me smile ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:52 PM
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There is only one solution to this and it is not to have sex with someone you do not want to risk having a child with or bring and use your own condoms, do not expect someone else to prevent the pregnancy or rely on the pill its not 100%, abstain or use more than one birth control method. If you are prepared to have sex with a woman you should be prepared to help raise the child you might create together. You cannot just abdicate responsibility after the fact so take responsibility before the ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:48 PM
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I think it is more the how vs the what if you see what I mean. I think its men who care more about dick size than women to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:41 PM
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I guess for me someone with a highly promiscuous past would be a turn off, a guy with any active addictions or personality problems. If they were long term unemployed with no good reason i.e. maybe he's engaged in some other personal passion project but if he is just sitting in his underpants all day scratching his arse then that's not attractive. Depends what the crime is but yeah for the most part that's not a plus. My husband only learned to drive a few years ago and it was great when he did …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:38 PM
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If I am being overly optimistic then perhaps you are being overly pessimistic and the reality is somewhere in between?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:32 PM
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I think there is some truth to this in the women I know who are single they get their needs for companionship met through family and having a wide circle or friends, they can financially support themselves and don't need a man to survive. Many of them would like a partner ideally but only with the right man. If he isn't available to them they prefer to be alone. I don't think many are actively seeking out casual sex to get their sexual needs met because as you say that is risky behaviour so they…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:31 PM
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Well some people just have monogamy with one person their whole lives more or less so they never have multiple partners in either respect. I think the majority of people men and women do want monogamy, with a minority being happier with open or poly relationships. Even if poly style relationships were more normalised and accepted I still think many women would choose to stay single than enter into relationships that don't work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:20 PM
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I mean its hard to say in every case but I've heard of lots of so called lotharios who were not rated highly as lovers even if they had the ability to charm their way into bed with women. I think genuine attraction is more of a factor, I feel like saying women want experienced men is the same as saying women only want bad boys who are tatted up and ripped and pump and dump and that's just not true, not for all women. I actively preferred someone who hadn't had tons of experience because having m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:14 PM
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Perhaps you are right but I think the takeaway is that there is nothing set in stone about the way social media has shaped people, its like a distortion where we are encouraged to package ourselves and rate ourselves and in addition to that in real life interaction is reduced so its easy for that perspective to take over but its not fundamental to who we are as people. It could be reversed and probably one day when we catch up to ourselves we will have a better handle on how these new technologi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:06 PM
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I think that there are no objective 10's in either sex but that someone can be elevated to a 10 for a specific person because they have some idiosyncratic attraction to you that gives you extra bonus points, the same system goes down the scale so a 6 becomes an 8 in the eye of a specific beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:43 PM
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A 10 in looks would be a youngish Christopher Walken, a five would be Harry Styles (not attractive to me but he isn't ugly) and a 1 would be Elon Musk who isn't at all attractive to me nor is Bezos.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:40 PM
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I can see what you are saying I think in that book, The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene he talks about having a type and sticking to it. You won't appeal to everyone but you will increase your appeal to those who do like you. A bit like how nobody is a 10 they only become a 10 in the eyes of a person who especially digs them for idiosyncratic reasons, same as an objective 6 can become an 8 in the eyes of someone who just digs them. I think the concept of adhering to a specific sub-culture look…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:36 PM
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My husband was a virgin when we men and is hands down the best sex I ever had, its compatibility that counts not that you have some time served diploma in bedroom gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:25 PM
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I think this is largely true, people tend to marry people similar to them so doctors marry other doctors, academics marry other academics and so on. Intellectual compatibility is important to most people as well as a shared cultural idea of what a relationship should be like. I once read a study about western men and their experiences seeking more submissive women from other parts of the world. While many enjoyed the more defined gender roles in relationships they still had a western cultural ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:22 PM
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I have heard that women only find something like 20% of men attractive while men find a much broader range of women attractive. Perhaps that is actually true but hidden within that result is that women don't all find the same 20% of men attractive. Growing up I'd have crushes on guys and my friends would be like eww why do you like him and I'd feel the same about the guys they were into. My sister in law is dating a guy now she is crazy about and to me I can't see anything attractive or sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:07 PM
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Thats not actually what I said my post goes into much more detail. I think my point is that women over 45 do want sex but that often they cannot get the sort of sex within loving committed relationships that they need to fully enjoy it and therefore the opt out to some extent perhaps just meeting their own sexual needs. Some may not want it but thats true for some men as well. I think most would enjoy an active sex life but they prefer to opt out than have it on terms that don't meet their needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:01 PM
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There are huge differences between paying someone for affection, sex and actually having those things from someone you love and are committed to. A paid employee will not nurse you or support you through sickness or a period of unemployment if they aren't getting paid. They won't challenge you to grow as a person they don't care about you, they don't enjoy the sex or the cuddles or spending time with you. Love isn't getting those things like sex or cuddles it is knowing you and your partner feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:49 PM
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So I am not single but I'm closer to 45 than 35 and I personally still love sex and want it frequently so that part of your assumption is untrue. I think maybe that 45 year old single women are just not actively looking on dating apps that much. Single friends of mine are either happy being single or meet their new partners irl as opposed to on the apps which they all agree are full of people with issues male and female. I think women do want sex but as a woman myself my experience is that its n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:44 PM
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Because Hypergamy is just not as true or fundamental as the red pill philosophy would have you believe. Anyone who enters a relationship might one day get dumped or get their heart broken, that's a risk for us all. However to say women only care about men as a stepping stone or that you should treat women just as holes is plain wrong and does you more harm than anyone else. Here is an experience I had which runs counter to the laws of hypergamy: I teach Iyengar yoga on top of my main job and a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:37 PM
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I really don't know what age you are or your experience level in relationships but women are interested in sex. I am a woman and I've been with my husband for many years and I still love sex and enjoy it as often as I can get it. The only think I've seen is that a lot of women with small children can sometimes go off sex a bit because small children are very demanding and they can get all touched out. You lose something of your bodily autonomy in pregnancy, child birth and motherhood which is ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:31 PM
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I guess this sub is called Purple pill debate so you should expect to be challenged on your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:15 PM
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I guess this sub is called Purple pill debate so you should expect to be challenged on your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:14 PM
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It really depends speed dating, online dating to me is quite a strange set up and it does encourage a shopping list mentality from both sexes. When you meet people in real life and get to know them overtime they might not make you think wow they are so hot right away but when you get to know them over time the fact that they are nice, funny, clever, loyal, strong and so on means that attraction can grow over time I know this because I've experienced it. Even just being friends with someone and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:13 PM
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It really depends speed dating, online dating to me is quite a strange set up and it does encourage a shopping list mentality from both sexes. When you meet people in real life and get to know them overtime they might not make you think wow they are so hot right away but when you get to know them over time the fact that they are nice, funny, clever, loyal, strong and so on means that attraction can grow over time I know this because I've experienced it. Even just being friends with someone and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:12 PM
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As a woman I just don't think it’s as straight forward as assuming getting the "highest value male" is like a woman’s prime directive. When I was single in my teens and early twenties, I didn't really give much thought to a guy’s status or wealth. I was only interested in dating guys my own age either a year or two younger or older tops so most of them would be other students of in low paid starter jobs. I was romantic and just wanted to be in love and have someone love me back and I didn't give…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:58 PM
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As a woman I just don't think it’s as straight forward as assuming getting the "highest value male" is like a woman’s prime directive. When I was single in my teens and early twenties, I didn't really give much thought to a guy’s status or wealth. I was only interested in dating guys my own age either a year or two younger or older tops so most of them would be other students of in low paid starter jobs. I was romantic and just wanted to be in love and have someone love me back and I didn't give…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:57 PM
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I totally agree it was that way for me I'd secretly be into these bigger girls but want to kudos of getting with a model type. I think as you get older though you care less about what others think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:18 PM
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Perhaps when I was in my teens but I was probably too worried about what my mates would say and not enough of a bastard to just sleep with them secretly which does go on a fair bit I think. Now I've been with my current girlfriend for 6 years she is slim but I still am mostly attracted to larger women. I recently did some work for a woman who was in her mid 30's and about 200+ lbs, I was very, very attracted to her and there was a bit of a spark I think but obviously I'm not in a position to pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:17 PM
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I'm a 29 year old guy, I'm pretty fit, tall and slim myself and my girlfriend is petite and slim. I have never visited a prostitute and wouldn't intend to but I do favor chubby and bbw porn, its turns me on the most but I have never dated a larger girl. I do get attracted to them in real life but have never really acted on it. I think a lot of it is when you are younger you will get comments about it from your mates and so that puts you off a bit. I think now that I am older and more sure of mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:54 PM
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