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Everyone with a brain understands what he means. "No one" not meaning "literally zero people" but rather an irrelevant, impotent amount is the most common usage of the phrase.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 12:49 PM
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When he says no one, he means no one meaningful. He means that ninety nine percent of the people talking about toxic masculinity aren't calling all masculinity toxic.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 12:40 PM
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It's both inherently bad manifestations of maniless (e.g. violence) and the pressure to conform to general standards of manliness like pressure not to show emotion.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 12:38 PM
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Wow, that is a fucking shitty article. The actual quote is "masculinity can be extremely toxic to our mental health;" the quote in the title suggesting a unilateral condemnation is maliciously and intentionally misleading. The discussion is about how the pressure to conform to standards of masculinity is bad, something this subreddit talks a hell of a lot about in between dumb right-wing posts like this.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 12:35 PM
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Almost invariably, anyone who thinks the radical feminism is a pervasive and relevant problem has a very, very low standard of what "radical" is.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 12:28 PM
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Systemic meaning the idea that in reality men are victimized at the same rate as women. There is no evidence to support this. Men underreport, but not to the level that this subreddit suggests.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 09:50 PM
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I've linked data. I've linked studies directly concerned with male victimization. "No you" isn't a refutation.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 08:18 PM
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...the people using the term on "the other side" are responding to claims of the first group. What in the world is that logic? Group 1: It's a witchhunt. Group 2: It's not a witchhunt. You: See, it is a witch hunt! They both said witch hunt! Unless you're fundamentally misunderstanding what I'm saying, in which case you're the one with the reading comprehension issues. I'm say that this subreddit only seems to think #metoo is a witch hunt when it's female victims coming out, and ignores all of t…
/r/MensRights24/02/18 08:13 PM
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I've substantiated all of my arguments. Your argument is as such: Premise 1: There is underreporting of male victimhood. Premise 2: Studies have difficulty acquiring accurate victimhood figures. Conclusion: Men are directly comparably victimized. With that logic, you could deny literally everything that suggests anything to the contrary. Do you not see how that's fallacious and how you're just pushing a narrative?
/r/MensRights24/02/18 07:57 PM
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It's literally not. It's only "consistent with the data" in that it supports your narrative. The only research that's been able to find remotely comparable rates are in male subcommunities, like gays or the incarcerated. "Some" underreporting does not suggest a discrepancy an order of magnitude larger. As for Me2, yes some high profile men have been begrudgingly accepted. Contrast that with the orders of magnitude more who were abused & shunned for daring to speak up while having the wrong genit…
/r/MensRights24/02/18 07:50 PM
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Substantiate your accusations. Some research suggests that men face a greater stigma in reporting rape and sexual assault than women, though men identified themselves as victims of predatory sexual behavior in several high-profile cases in 2017. It's absolutely divorced with any evidence to suggest that men, even correcting for underreporting as a result of reporting stigmas, face close to the level of sexual harassment as women. They are overwhelmingly disproportionately victimized. And the sad…
/r/MensRights24/02/18 07:33 PM
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im kinda done talking with you, but i just wanted to point out this little gem. I'm talking about how not for a single second are Terry Crews and other male victims doubted in this subreddit, but this subreddit will still insist on calling it a witch hunt even after the accused have confessed in the case of women. dont you think its a little offensive and sexist to come to the ladies rescue like this? especially when youre having to make shit up to do it? Witchhunt" is being used everywhere to d…
/r/MensRights24/02/18 07:23 PM
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Read where the data comes from, dude. It tends to capture much more information than sources like police statistics, since many crimes are never reported to the police.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 04:56 PM
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The survey doesn't take into account whether charges are pressed. It asks victims directly. There's no evidence to suggest systemic underreporting of male victims. It tends to capture much more information than sources like police statistics, since many crimes are never reported to the police.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 04:55 PM
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Why didn't you address the fact that Terry crews can't name the perpetrator because he has to fear for his career? Or the fact that he has been threatened to drop his lawsuit else his career might be "damaged". I did. That's the entire point of #metoo. Matt daemon had made a completely reasonable argument. Is it wrong to try to be the moderator in a witch Hunt? There was a petition signed by around 300,000 people to get him off a movie for what he said. Is this what you want the #metoo to be abo…
/r/MensRights24/02/18 04:50 PM
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nice source. meanwhile, im going to cite federal sources, not some garbage website. ...the (very reputable) website cites the BJS survey. For some kinds of victimization, men and women have roughly equal experiences. Stemple concluded that we need to “completely rethink our assumptions about sexual victimization,” and especially our fallback model that men are always the perpetrators and women the victims. That is a problem, but this isn't about that problem. Male victims are given the spotlight…
/r/MensRights24/02/18 05:32 AM
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How am I a troll? Women make up the overwhelming majority of sexual assault victims. Male victims Terry Crews and Blaise Godbe Lipman are featured and covered extensively, and their accusations of sexual assault taken seriously. Outside of the Time coverage, male victims have been overwhelmingly treated positively by the media, and given fair representation for their claims. The claim from lower in the thread that there's a cabal against this content is delusional. The sexual assault of Brendan …
/r/MensRights24/02/18 03:15 AM
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Literally every week Terry Crews is at the top of /r/movies or /r/television. He was included in Time magazine's issue. It feels like this subreddit doesn't just want Crews to be taken seriously, but that the problem is that the male victims are not given a total monopoly on attention.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 10:02 PM
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The ironic thing is that the vast majority of posts on this subreddit are circlejerking about SJWs, without realizing that they're literally SJWs with penises with the one out of every twenty posts that is actually vaguely related to men's issues.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 08:24 PM
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Subtle.
/r/MensRights31/12/17 09:18 PM
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If you don't deliberately seek it out, you literally almost never run into "SJW culture."
/r/MensRights13/11/17 06:47 PM
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If this isn't deliberate bait, you're fucked in the head.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 12:57 PM
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To pretend nothing happened and continue reaping the rewards given to you by your master. You were sexually abused. Your entire life -- not "rewards," but your literal entire livelihood -- is at risk if you decide to come out. This isn't sleeping with your boss for a promotion, which I think you're interpreting it as in a fucked up, misogynistic kind of way. If you are willing to accept a situation for monetary gain, you're no longer a victim. If someone tells me they're going to do sexual thing…
/r/MensRights18/10/17 03:22 AM
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Are you being intentionally dense? It seems like you just hate women and have an overpowering victim complex.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 08:48 PM
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They said nothing because in all likelihood, they'd end up with their life ruined in addition to having been sexually assaulted, and nothing would come to their abuser. They didn't "wait until it would for sure benefit them," they waited until they could come out without fear of being accused of lying or having their entire fucking life ruined because they came out. The problem is the fucking sexual abusers. Your post history looks like some sexist incel shit, so I can see why you blame the vict…
/r/MensRights17/10/17 08:11 PM
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Seriously, the guy you're responding to is calling women who were sexually harassed accomplices in the harassment. How does he and the hundred people that upvoted him and the other person have such little empathy? Might as well say she dressed slutty and deserved it. Two things happen if you come out: 1) Nothing happens to your abuser and your entire life, like other women who have come out, is ruined. You can't get jobs anymore. You have no future. You're broke. Literally your entire life is ru…
/r/MensRights17/10/17 07:04 PM
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But the subreddits you're banned for posting in are famous for posting that kind of stuff. If a frequent poster from here is posting in another subreddit dedicated to women's issues, nine times out of ten it isn't going to be a nuanced contribution to the discussion.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/17 08:23 PM
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Why is it that the last line people always fall back on is censorship? You're actinv like moderating internet forums is some venomous form of censorship. If the subreddits banned are actually prejudiced shitholes, which they pretty kuch are, the only "circlejerkery" being created is the circlejerky of normal discourse. You aren't banned for having a different opinion unless that opinion is bigoted and dickish.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/17 07:56 PM
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More troublingly, this is x-posted from /r/sjwhate.
/r/MensRights05/07/17 01:27 AM
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Well, the problem with MGTOW is that most of it isn't just people swearing off dating and working on business goals or other interests. By the nature of the community, it tends to be really misogynistic, and it is for that reason that a lot of people don't like MGTOWers. They tend to have some really toxic attitudes toward women, being not so much nonromantic as they are anti-woman. You can sort of see a little bit of that bleed through in OP's post. Rather than realize that people tend to disli…
/r/MensRights16/06/17 03:50 AM
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Well, /r/cringeanarchy was literally created by neo-nazis and racists, so that's what that's a shithole. And no, I'm not calling everyone that disagrees with me a racist. The head mod is Deathwave88 and it has delightful "race realist" mods like Dindu_Muffins.
/r/MensRights16/06/17 03:36 AM
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This is my problem with the MRA movement. Rather than be true advocates of men's issues, they end up becoming nega-SJWs.
/r/MensRights16/06/17 02:38 AM
0

The thing that debunks all of the supposed "chat logs" is that fact that there was only a singular article (http://kota -- ku.com/the-indie-game-reality-tv-show-that-went-to-hell-1555599284#_ga=2.247469903.9934570.1497407750-1879283578.1497407750) mentioning Quinn in the context of a failed reality show. Not even a review; nothing favorable about the game was mentioned. When the whole idea is that it was "a fuss about people exchanging money or other services for favorable coverage," the distinc…
/r/MensRights14/06/17 04:58 PM
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How exactly was Gamergate not totally sexist? It was basically a coordinated harassment campaign against feminist voices (born from a demonstrably false accusation, too) which, regardless of whether or not you agree with them, is totally not okay. When you somehow use Gamergate to delegitimize every voice you disagree with, then yeah, the only articles people will point to will obviously be from people who Gamergate somehow "exposed."
/r/MensRights14/06/17 01:24 AM
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Don't waste your breath. He's not self-aware enough to recognize his glaring hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights13/06/17 03:59 PM
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It's not guilty by association. If you like watching people die, you're fucked in the head. That is not normal behavior. A person's personality can be inferred Neither is the association fallacy. You can make inferences. Who knows, /r/whiterights might be subreddit dedicated to explicitly white issues, but when the subreddit overlaps massively with /r/coontown and /r/nationalsocialism, maaaaaaaaaaybe it's a neonazi shithole. It's related issues, it's not a logical fallacy.
/r/MensRights14/05/17 04:51 PM
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Where did I defend homophobia? edit: Your frequent editing is weird. Not sure why I expected someone that frequents /r/watchpeopledie and /r/pussypassdenied to be intelligent; you're obviously not all there. My whole point is that this subreddit is misogynistic and has a victim complex. The "homophobic rant" is a dumb Tumblr post from a random person that has nothing to do with Men's Rights. That's the "victim complex" part. As for the suffragettes, you can say that, but that still doesn't justi…
/r/MensRights14/05/17 03:02 PM
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The other guy was right. Nothing I can say will ever convince you. It's not worth responding to you.
/r/MensRights14/05/17 02:54 PM
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Here's a couple from this thread. This person argues that this post is somehow part of a "chronic attack of male sexuality from the 1800s." The citations are from delusional, misogynistic blogs. One particular quote from the second source alleges that the suffragette movement wanted to secure the vote for women to control "male sexuality." Images of the suffragettes reveal that early feminists looked much like their third wave modern variety – plain or downright ugly. This will come as no surpri…
/r/MensRights14/05/17 04:31 AM
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/u/tmone Adding on to this, it's a tad bit different because /r/roastme, while it does have a fairly toxic user base, isn't really dedicated to the same issue as /r/imgoingtohellforthis. You'll probably run into a lot of racists there because of the user overlap, but that's not the point I'm trying to make here. When your men's rights movement subreddit has significant overlap with the extremist fringe of that movement (i.e. TheRedPill and MGTOW) and with victim complex and straight-up delusiona…
/r/MensRights14/05/17 02:48 AM
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They used it on /r/the_donald and gave really interesting results. There's a link to the article they wrote on it on that page but here's the link with some of the most /r/the_donald-iest subreddits being /r/kiketown and /r/coontown when you adjust for a general interest in politics; super interesting. /r/conservative without politics is guns and religion, too.
/r/MensRights13/05/17 12:30 AM
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Are you saying that you are the male version of radical feminists? That's not a good defense.
/r/MensRights13/05/17 12:19 AM
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Yeah. There are men's rights issues, but this subreddit is primarily misogynists with a victim complex; before you downvote me, these are the top ten subreddits by user overlap with /r/mensrights as per FiveThirtyEight's subreddit similarity tool: Similarity Rank Subreddit Name Similarity Score Link 1 PurplePillDebate 0.652951089931563 http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate 2 TheRedPill 0.651283842679626 http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill 3 MGTOW 0.629972815062433 http://np.reddit.com/r/MGTOW 4 …
/r/MensRights13/05/17 12:17 AM
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We're in a post about shitting on feminism. It isn't hypocrisy. It's like the Black Lives Matter versus Blue Lives Matter movements. Is it bad to support police officers? No. Does Blue Lives Matter bring up some good points? Yes. But it spawned in opposition of the Black Lives Matter Movement and as a result a significant part of the movement is anti-Black, not just pro-police. MRA proliferated after Tumblr feminism became a popular issue and as a result a significant portion of the movement is …
/r/MensRights27/01/17 12:12 AM
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I'm not demonizing Men's Rights as a whole. The online movement really spawned in opposition of the feminist movement. That's why the stereotype exists. I wasn't disagreeing with you; I was just explaining why I think that MRAs aren't taken seriously sometimes. The best response to this is to not give a shit and keep a perspective, and try not to become the person they think you are.
/r/MensRights26/01/17 11:53 PM
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The reason why that happens is twofold. First, because there's a disturbingly large portion of MRAs that just hate women, especially online. It makes it hard to associate with the MRA movement because a lot of the people are generally despicable. This damages the movement's public perception. I mean, we're in a thread in the MRA subreddit shitting on women. Second, it's a confirmation bias. You don't notice the people that support your cause, only the people that critique it. I'll elaborate on w…
/r/MensRights26/01/17 11:33 PM
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You know how you feel like there's systematic biases in the world that prejudice men? That men are discriminated against in child custody cases, that adult men interacting with young children is unfairly tabooed, that male-targeted rape isn't taken seriously or punished, that men don't have the social support structure that women tend to have and "man up" is toxic, false rape allegations, and so on? Women face similar, but unique problems of their own. Street harassment. Pressure to bear a child…
/r/MensRights26/01/17 10:55 PM
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