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Being nervous is biggest mood killer. And if you've never had sex before, doing it for the first time can be pretty nervous.
/r/seduction01/08/20 04:01 PM
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"all the relationship ain't supposed to be perfectly fun and enjoyable," What's the point of such relationship? I feel like it's better to be alone than in relationship that is not fun and enjoyable most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:55 AM
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It's one thing to do couple things a month you don't really enjoy for your partner, it's another thing to not enjoy anything apart from sex with your SO. Op talks about the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:50 AM
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I like traveling as well, so I appreciate when I see that on a dating profile. And while you say how abundant that is, there is actually a surprising amount of people who never went further than their home town.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:40 AM
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I have twice out of my four LTRs. The other two were already pretty crazy I just wanted to get my dick wet. Sounds like it's just the people you choose to date. Not some kind of LTR magic that changes people. I just don't date crazy to being that. That is easy to see even before you start dating, while chatting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:22 AM
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You're saying you're getting the worst of them as soon as you "upgrade" to an LTR. I did not say that. I actually never experienced drastic changes when transitioning from dating to ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:45 AM
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The vibe was different, more chill and friendly, and for the most part they were on their best behavior. If the vibe changes after going from dating to ltr, then you were dating wrong person. if I was fucking other bitches Guess we're very different types of people. I never date anyone who refers to other as "bitches" and I never talk like that either. I am also exclusive from the moment intimacy is introduced, so the problem of who fucks who on the side does not affect me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:23 AM
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you never dated someone that wasn't a good fit? I did. It never lasted long. Your point is? But before the LTR you are compatible. Crazy. With a little bit of experience you can see incompatibility long before you enter "serious relationships" phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 09:21 AM
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Anyone who says modern world is worse than the past is crazy. We have more freedom, prosperity, technology and less violence, war and poverty than in any other period of our history.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:48 AM
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Wanting to have sex and wanting female validation are not the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:42 AM
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Men need to have better pics, better bios, better messages written to women and we need to become waaaay more picky in online dating. I recently made an experiment pretending to be a woman on dating app and was shocked at how low quality pics and bios men had and what low-effort messages they sent. Men also seem to swipe right to absolutely anyone and message just about any match they get. That's part of the problem why OLD gives an impression that women have an advantage - the "advantage" comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:34 AM
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m asking if the pros outweigh the cons, not if there are any pros at all. Considering that half of your "cons" are just normal parts of ltr-s, it's hard to answer your question. As for other cons - I weed out people with such incompatibilities before entering relationship. All the real cons of relationship come mostly from the fact that two incompatible people get together. never dated anyone with flaws before Part of a dating process is actually checking whether the other person has some kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 07:56 PM
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Every female plays games one way or another. I am sorry you had such experience. Hope you will meet some better people in the future. I literally don't care about time spent with me or attentiveness. Well then why you ask whether fwb or ltr are better? You don't like what make LTR a LTR, so any positives about it will be dismissed by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 07:00 PM
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Guess we just have different expectation in dating and relations. That's why I think OPs question is pointless - different people have different expectations. Some people will be more satisfied with fwb, other with LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:56 PM
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Having to be attentive (have to text back timely/call back) Have to go out Have to spend "enough" time with them ( That's what I expect from a GF as well. Don't see anything bad about that. That's just what makes a relationship - spending time together, going out and communicating with each other. Why is that bad? Start going out with someone and stopping and see where that gets you) Hanging out with certain people makes them "uncomfortable" ( I don't go into relationships with emotionally immat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:52 PM
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Can you present examples of those "hassles" you talk so much about? So far I've just seen a couple points that are present in bad relationship, but not some inherently bad hassles that are present in all relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:30 PM
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Probably. I just don't understand why so many think that calling what you have with someone a "relationship" automatically brings some negativity. If I have more than just friendly going-outs with someone, I prefer to go with relationship route. I like stability and exclusivity. It doesn't mean I like drama and fights that some people associate with LTR, I still like to keep it fun and awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:13 PM
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I just don't see the difference between fwb and relationship if we go on dates, vacations, talk about kids and my friends know that we're together. That all is in a relationship territory for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:46 PM
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than hooking up. So there is nothing fun for you in life apart from hooking up? You don't enjoy good food, movies, vacations, playing games together?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:52 PM
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Because some people are shitty. Learn to weed them out quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:50 PM
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I can't imagine presenting fwb to parents or friends as my partner, planning future together (ranging from planning vacation together to marriage and kids), going on an actual dates that don't involve "B" of fwb part, buying each other meaningful gifts, sharing some emotional stories from the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:47 PM
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either had them with a FWB or during a short relationship The only people I know who did that didn't have their life together. People from my social circle with education and stable jobs only had kids in stable relationship or after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:42 PM
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they're worried about where you are, what you're doing, where you're going, who you're talking to If you are getting too much of that, then you're just in a bad relationship. Being overly-cringy is not an inherent property of every relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:38 PM
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It doesn't sound like OP wants to feel like an outcast. It feels like he wants to be accepted by society for his values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:25 PM
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" within 1 year " is such a tiny difference in age that even if all of those relationship have men older by 1 year(which is obviously not true) it doesn't mean that women prefer old grumpy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:01 PM
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Women and men are most attractive in their late teens and early 20s. For me people in late 20s are most attractive. It's extremely subjective. I don't get where the idea that people peak in late teens comes from. Most of them look like kids with not fully developed facial and body features to be honest up till at least 20-21.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:41 AM
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I’d say everyone, men and women, are going to be the most attractive physically in their 20’s. As you age, your perception of that changes. I no longer find women up to about 22-23 attractive. 95% of them honestly look like kids to me. My age preference shifted to 25-35 as I moved to my late 20s. I am man btw, if that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:36 AM
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Some women would be shocked to find that there is actually no "male privilege". You are not handed out 30% pay rises and CEO positions just for being male. You still have to work hard to achieve anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:11 AM
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Define what "average" is. Only then we can discuss if that "average" appearance is attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:34 AM
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I've never encountered men who talk like that, except internet trolls. Either you somehow ended up in very toxic community, or you spend too much time on Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:41 PM
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That doesn't make any sense. If need to ejaculate was the only driving force, men would be just jacking off instead of going through all the hoops to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 04:13 PM
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" minor " Knowledge "major" Quiet nature Not being extremely sociable Sounds like your personal preferences. I wouldn't want quiet, shut in woman with little knowledge about the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:36 PM
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You should either spend less time on reddit or don't hang around trash men. Literally zero men in my social circle talk like that about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:16 PM
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Total BS. I am not going to date (long term with possibility of moving in, I am not taking about a short fling) a woman stuck in low pay job. She will be a financial burden and won't be able to contribute to bills. What's the point in having a partner who is not on the same financial level as you are? I am not going to become a single breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 11:26 AM
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I've never heard anyone saying like that about women outside reddit. Obviously men(and women too actually) care about sex, but I have not heard anyone being that disrespectful. But maybe I just don't hang around trash man...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 08:23 AM
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30+ manless and childless And? You say as if it is something inherenetly bad. Not everyone has a goal in their life to marry and have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:45 PM
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having a hard time coping with the idea of marrying down. What's wrong with not marry down? Marriage should add to the life, not be a burden. Expecting your SO to be of equal, and not lower, social and financial level is not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 02:49 PM
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Person above was talking about people being totally single - i.e removing themselves both from dating and hookup market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:12 PM
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It's not just women. Men do it too. More personal freedoms, less pressure to get married, longer lifespans - there is just no rush to get married. but it's quite alarming to see so many women like this. Why do you care what other people are doing with their personal life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:03 PM
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If this is the case, why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on? Treated like shit and abused? Because they dated assholes, not because they were sweet and innocent. Don't go for assholes (that is appropriate for both genders btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:08 PM
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It depends extremely on the location. Haven't been to US, so can't say about american men/women. But I've been around Europe and can say that ratio of beautiful men to beautiful women is very different - in some countries both men and women are nice looking, in some men are on average better looking (surprisingly that can happen too), in some women are on average more beautiful. Highly depends on genetics, diet (healthier - less obesity - more nice looking people) and style (clothes and haircuts…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 08:38 PM
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The average man on the street is just anonymous default humans to women. Isn't that the same for average women? I definitely don't pay attention to every single women on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 02:30 PM
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. What do men have that’s natural to attract women? What I gathered from talking to women - broad shoulders, overall well composed frame, strong jawline, pretty face, nice hair (if we are talking purely what you were born with). Yeah, not all men got those traits naturally...but neither do all women got attractive "tits, ass, curves, hips, legs". Why do you think they use all the tricks like make up, push up bras, clothes that hide unflattering parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 11:02 AM
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Everyone is different. I would drop you immediately for doing such things : I start crying over stupid shit. I don’t give him a break, ever. I hate such things, I enjoy calmness and silence. Mostly due to my introverted nature. Maybe you were just going for guys who enjoy more extroverted, emotional women. I started demanding things That's a whole other thing. But you don't need to go into crazy mode to express your wishes and needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 09:11 AM
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I think it has nothing to do with gender. It just that most people can't see struggles of other people (no matter what gender or ethnicity they have) - we are trapped inside our minds and can't really understand what goes in other peoples heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 03:23 PM
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Not everyone is attractive and not everyone is looking for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:51 PM
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For me it's the opposite - the further I go away from HS, the easier it gets. I had almost zero dating success in high school and university - had been just on one date before 23. I was typical nerdy skinny boy with stupid clothes. It all changed when I got a job - I got more confident, started working out, got better clothes and haircuts. In last two years I had been in one serious relationship, another short one for couple weeks, many-many first dates, easily get matches(and even some of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:39 AM
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What's his height though? Also he didn't just go down to 200lbs, he converted his weight to muscle (looking at his arms) - it's much different than having all this weight in body fat. Little muscle with 200lbs would be looking fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:27 AM
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is human construct A lot of things in our lives are social/human counstructs. Doesn't make them any less important for many people. Never understood the idea that if something is a human construct, it's somehow not important.
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:15 PM
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to clutter their place up with anything other than the bare essentials. Since when a bed frame and good mattress are not considered essentials?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 11:57 AM
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bed frame, a comfy mattress, put on a mattress protector You guys don't have that stuff by default? What kind of holes do you live in? In my country it's default setup for bedroom in 99% of houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 11:47 AM
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these women are most likely the majority. That doesn't align with the fact that majority of women I know (of all kinds of looks - from below the average to top tier) are in relationships, or take very little time from breaking up to finding new boyfriend. Not saying there are no women that struggle with that, but they are clearly in very small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 11:41 AM
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being 'too nice' Being too nice aka "doormat" is not same as being generally nice to people unless being treated badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 10:24 AM
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Women's looks typically start to decline starting sometime in their 20s. More like late 30s. The only women I know whose looks declined in 20s were horrendously bad at taking care of themselves and were actually doing damage with excessive smoking and horrible diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 10:21 AM
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I mean the overall consensus. The more I live on this planet, the more I think there is no overall consensus. Population is divided into different groups with different ideals of what is high value for them. That's why I said those traits are valid for both genders - it's up to individual to determine which of those is more important for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:58 AM
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Those traits apply to both genders. Woman who can lead and has good career is awesome, just as fit man with good homemaking skills is awesome as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:45 AM
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Looks are superficial and have nothing to do with high value (or rather it's only a part of overall value). I was once on a date with a model (tall, fit, blonde - all that), but it was boring as hell - all she could talk about was about her ex-es and sleezy messages she gets all the time. Didn't want to pursue her at all. Obviously looks matter, but personality is a big deal as well. At least for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:39 AM
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What does that mean? What makes someone worth it?
/r/seduction24/12/19 11:29 PM
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Has it ever worked for you? Man, I can't imagine directly asking someone for sex like that at the very first date...
/r/seduction24/12/19 11:00 PM
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openly profess interest in casual sex. How to do that in non-creepy way though? Like say in online dating. Or even if you meet someone irl. You can't just say outright "Hey, you're hot, let's go to bedroom with me", right?
/r/seduction24/12/19 10:57 PM
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You still cannot grasp that situation in post-soviet and post-socialist countries is different. For example - But if a man fails due to things outside of his control, he is blamed and abandoned asap. I've seen a lot of examples of the opposite sutation - woman sticking to unemployed alcoholic husband, because - 1.many people in ex-soviet countries are raised in traditional believes that woman must be a good wife 2. they are simply afraid of leaving due to those men being very violent. Also the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 05:41 PM
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alcoholics so much (men numbing there suffering? Alcoholics in Eastern Europe are usually not "good men numbing their suffering", it's mostly degraded human beings who are very violent. Alcoholism is major cause of home violence. And what else are you supposed to do with someone who does nothing other than drinking and beating the shit out of family members?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 02:44 PM
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You don't understand the situation in post-soviet countries at all. The economy collapsed in 80s-90s, and in many places hasn't recovered since - american economic crisis is like a little bump on the road compared to this. People became literally too poor and homeless to form functioning families. Like zero money, not like "oh I got shitty college degree and still live in my comfortable parents house".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 02:07 PM
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From what I know, the reasons for divorce are different from US. It's not "I want to take half the shit from my husband" (most people in eastern europe are too poor anyways for that sort of logic) and more like "our marriage is in total shit, better end it".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 02:04 PM
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It is indeed. And in general dating culture in US is different from the rest of the world. In Europe we don't date multiple people at once, don't have exclusivity talks (though we have talks in the sense "who are we as a couple", but it's not some step in dating process and can happen at any point, even at first date), weird dating rituals and strict rules. Just meet someone, spend time with them, if everything clicks - become a couple. If that doesn't work - only then move to another person. Ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 02:00 PM
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radical dieting Nothing radical about eating less calories than your body uses (if you need to lose weight) and vice versa if you need to gain weight. Yeah, some people are obsessed with diet and counting every milligram of carbs/proteins/sugar, but they are overkilling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:07 PM
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they do not want goals, Absolutely has not been my experience. Almost all women who I've been on dates ask about my future plans (and plans on relationship as well), some even about things like moving in/marriage/kids (not in a way "lets do it now", but more like "what's your view on it").
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 01:24 PM
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Same experience, I've yet to meet anyone who is down to smth casual on dating apps/sites. Even on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 01:18 PM
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Maybe it depends on an area where you live. Close to 100% women I've matched on dating apps (even on Tinder) were looking for something serious. Casual dating just doesn't exist in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:00 AM
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Negative bonus points if you're shirtless in your bathroom. That is bad, don't do it Morty. Done that(honestly at first just for lulz), got even more matches. Did not expect that. What should I take away from that?
/r/seduction03/12/19 08:54 AM
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Doesn't really matter. Unhealthy things usually come out in other places (bad skin, teeth, hair). Weight is basically your calorie intake vs usage per day. For the vast majority of people, except very small minority who have some disease that make them overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:44 AM
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She works out a lot and eats healthy Most possibly her calories in/out per day is unbalanced. Because she is overweight and not fit. You can eat super healthy food, but if you eat 2500 kcal, but your body only uses 2000 kcal per day, you're going to gain weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:30 AM
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nice butt There are many exercises for the butt. They are muscles after all, so you can change it's appearance through exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:21 AM
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The times when your average German was tall, blond, blue-eyed guy/girl are long gone. Women are especially not very beautiful in Germany. At best they are plain and unremarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 08:02 AM
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The difference is quite noticable even when compared to nearby european countries (like Germany and UK).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 05:51 PM
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the bar has never been lower. Only in the US (and I guess it's different in various US areas as well, since it's a large country). Now come to northern Europe, where obesity rate is much lower, average male height is above 5′10″ , basically everyone goes to the gym, and every 2nd person looks like he/she could be a model...it all makes it incredibly hard to stand out. So it all really depends on the location you live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 11:15 AM
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1 being attractive and 0 being unattractive. That's waaay too simplistic. There is a reason why 10 point scale is so popular. Attraction and your success in dating is not a binary switch. You don't go from wasteland to hanging out with all the girls in one step. Some guys don't get dates at all, some get them from time to time and might get sex in LTR, some have girls throwing at them and having sex with no commitment. And everything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:11 PM
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I am not a biology expert, so I can't say for sure. All I learned from a little bit of googling about evolution is that it's basically an extremely random process of mutations, that creates more complex forms of life. If "mutated" beings manage to create enough offsprings, a new more comples species are created. And more complex beings require more complex processes of creating offsrping, that's why bacterias can just divide like a cell, but human beings require sex to pass the genetic material …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:19 PM
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Basically - evolution and our lizard brain. Trhoughout the evolution those species that managed to procreate - those survived. Our bodies through prolactin, oxytocin and other chemicals makes sex pleaseruble for us(well, for our lizard brain), which makes having offspring more likely. That's it, everything else are just cultural and social constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:45 PM
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And now compare it to USA where almost 70% of people over 15 are or were married. Marriage rate is also double in USA than in Netherlands - 7 per 1000 compared to 3.8 in Netherlands. So I bet the difference will continue to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:20 PM
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. I'd be willing to bet a lot of Dutch chicks still get married. I just googled statistics - only half of the Dutch population over 20 are married. And 50% of births in Netherlands are outside the marriage. Also marriage rate has dropped from 9.5 per 1 000 in 1970 to 3.8 per 1 000 in 2013. There are also more people who never married than married in general in Netherlands (8 to 6 mln), which is in stark contrast to USA, where there are twice as much married people than those who never married. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:03 PM
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My consensus is - women strongly want marriage if they are from more conservative areas/families or marriage has extremely good legal/financial benefits. Where I live (northern Europe) marriage doesn't have huge benefits from the government and we are a bit more liberal (in terms of religions and relations at least), so I know many couples who live together for years, even have kids and they are not married. And they are not some kind of "opportunistic people who play the game" - they just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 05:50 PM
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to not raise a goddamn finger when they’re in relationships That's a shitty relationship, not "emotional labor". You don't need to "fix" such relationship, you need to dump it and find someone who puts equal effort into relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:27 PM
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It's hard to judge fairy tales...seriously though, I've never in my life seen examples of such guys. Example n2 could work out if he had lots of money...but ugly man working at low end job? He is never going to get multiple hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:20 PM
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I am not saying that US is the only place like this, but it's the closest place culturally and language-wise to Europe, so any cultural differences stand out much more. Like I am not surprised that marriage is huge in Asia and Africe, since those places are waay more traditional and religious, but for US it looks...odd? Don't forget that we also tend to speak a lot more with americans on the Internet, rather than with asians or africans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:36 PM
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I know plenty of people who cohabite and have kids without marriage. Your point is mute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:09 AM
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As an european, all I can say is that american obsession with marriage as " the ultimate form of commitment" is really odd. I know quite a lot of couples who are together for years without getting married, some of them even have kids and buy property together. Most married people who I know only married for some legal benefits (kids, inheritance, legal citizenship status). And they were together also for several years before getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:23 AM
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84% of men reported being very or somewhat satisfied with their sex lives That doesn't correlate with the data from latest studies that shows almost 30% of men under 30 in US are having no sex. When you don't have sex, how can you be satisfied with your sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 08:51 AM
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Y'all have way too negative view on the world here on PPD. If I were to believe what is said here, then world should be full of shallow, emotionally unstable people who cheat and lie left and right. And this is definitely not what I am seeing in my social circle. Sure there are some awful people, but where I live they are definitely a small minority. Majority of the people are perfectly normal and don't treat others badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 11:05 AM
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Someones that adds value to my life, not takes away. So she is on the same intellectual level, can at least appreciate my interests (ideally take part in them), can be a good travelling companion, is financially wise (doesn't expect me to be a sole breadwinner and is ready to split the bills in case we move in together), and is sexually compatible with me (enjoys physical intimacy and doesn't see it as something to "give up" in exchange for something else).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:43 AM
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I think discrepancy is not in the idea of normalcy, but the environment we live in. If I take a look at my family, people I work with and studied with, I can't think of anyone I could name philanderer or a thot. Everyone are pretty normal, and even their negative sides are pretty mild like "too shy" or "too talkative".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:26 AM
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If that was true, then 100% of men would cheat. Which is far from truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:57 AM
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Bro, are you even aware that James Bond was created "back in those days"? And take a look at the typical 80s action movie - every single male lead actor looks like he just came out the 1 year heavylifting-binge.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 09:07 PM
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men are generally overwhelmingly awful, What kind of place y'all are living in? I am definitely not seeing hordes of awful men around me. Nor do I see hordes of awful women either. Most of the people are pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 08:59 PM
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Well I am now surprised by what you talk about. Never seen anyone praise men just for being decent. And I am really surprised that so many people think that majority of men(or women) are somehow awful, because in my social circle that is definitely not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 08:31 PM
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Men showing basic human decency is considered remarkable by most women. That is not what I gathered from talking to women. That is considered bare minimum and won't get anyone a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 08:03 PM
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I don't think I ever saw in real life a guy that could fit into this stereotype of "beer loving, simple man with no emotions, who only wants sex". I only saw such in comedic sketches on youtube. Real life people are a bit more...complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 05:03 PM
1

Why though? You don't need sex, you don't need anything financial from him, and you get companionship from your girl-friends...you don't need to date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 03:27 PM
1

companionship, a battle buddy for when shit gets overwhelming, stability, another set of hands around the place, a second income. The problem is it's incredibly hard to find someone with qualities like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 03:12 PM
2

More older women though. Men in Russia die much younger than women. In 20s-40s ratio is pretty equal.
/r/seduction08/11/19 03:55 PM
2

Attractiveness is not linear or scientifically quantifiable. Of course there are general things that make someone not attractive (being obese, bad skin or teeth, messy hair), but once someone is above this minimum, the personal preferences start playing big role.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 06:59 AM
4

It seems some people have different definitions of "hotties". I looked up pics of Anna Kendrick and she is definitely hot, at least 9/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 06:55 AM
1

It's one thing to be aware that there are lots of asshole men and women, and another thing to think that 100% of men/women are assholes. First is being realistic and being prepared for when bad things happen, second is just being hateful sexist. Because in reality not all men/women are "like that". I know plenty of people who are in fact respectful and never cheated in their relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 07:35 AM
1

Interesting. Maybe it's an effect of university...Where I work I know at least 10 guys and girls in the office who are single. That's almost third of my coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 07:17 AM
2

Really? What's your age group? In mine (mid twenties) I'd say it's closer to 60-70%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 05:38 PM
3

It's not even really fear, but lack of knowledge. I don't know how to show/tell/ask for my desires. With a couple of women I did become intimate it just...happened naturally, I didn't use any game or techniques. So in a sense I didn't really gain any knowledge, just a vague understanding that I can do it, but how I did is still a big mystery for me. Maybe because I am very logical person and when I tried to analyse it, I just didn't see any patterns.
/r/seduction28/10/19 02:24 PM
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used to fear talking to girls. What if I have no problems talking to girls, befriending them, but I don't really understand how to move from that to romantic things? I just straight up don't understand flirting, compliments, innuendo jokes. It all just feels alien to me.
/r/seduction22/10/19 06:45 PM
2

Divorce rates does not mean shit. You can be in unhappy marriage with toxic husband/wife with dead bedroom for all your life. But hey, you weren't in divorce statistics, so everything is great and happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 10:36 AM
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Like 90% of dudes get at least a few women to like them Yet according to latest surveys almost third of the men under age 30 did not have sex within the last year. Yeah, most dudes get some women to like them...but when your number is maybe 2-3 for a whole life and you are going for years with dry spell...you are failing hard in dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 07:50 AM
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This actually applies to every aspect of life.
/r/seduction21/10/19 10:16 AM
2

will just work enough to play for internet,games, and basic needs. Isn't that how many (if not already a majority) of guys (at least in the generation) are living?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:11 PM
1

Okay, I can kinda joke in person, but in text it's just impossible for me. I can't tell a joke when there is zero ...I dunno how to call - personal relation you kinda build when you talk face to face. I can gauge when to throw in joke while seeing how they react and how their voice changes. I cannot do it over text, when person typing "haha" can in fact have the most dead face ever.
/r/seduction17/10/19 07:23 PM
1

sexualize over text How do you do that through text without sounding like a perv? Everything I can think sounds cringy/creepy without seeing her in person.
/r/seduction17/10/19 06:10 AM
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Firstly I have phone call anxiety (99% of my calls are for some very important reason, which puts quite some pressure), secondly it's still not really a face to face conversation - I can't see their expression, voice sounds always somehow different than in person, I also hate to ask again if I didn't properly hear due to some connection issues.
/r/seduction17/10/19 05:55 AM
1

"how you text, " Any ways to improve on that? I totally stuck at texting/calling if it goes beyond simple exchange of information. It's just...so impersonal. I dunno, I just feel like taking with the phone, not a person. I'm much better at real life conversations.
/r/seduction16/10/19 08:14 PM
2

In my experience most girls are into "extroverts", only a handful are into "introverts".
/r/seduction16/10/19 08:09 PM
4

Lol, the chicks in the comic are at best average and nowhere near the chad league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:29 AM
10

if you can chat to other guys you can flirt with girls too. Lol. If that was so easy, almost no men would have problems with dating/seduction. The thing is that flirting with women is different than chatting with your friends. And you can only get better at flirting...well, by practicing it with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:01 PM
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In my experience there is no need to strategize. Just start with the hug and go with physical contact throughout the date. If she is ok with that and not pushing away - go with the kiss. Overthinking is not good in that situation ("is it ok to kiss?" "is it good situation to kiss?"). I've ruined more dates by not kissing than by kissing. In fact 100% of dates I've kissed on went perfectly, while all very good dates with physical contact but no kiss moved me immediately to "friends" territory.
/r/seduction15/10/19 06:35 AM
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None of them look "feminine" except Harry. They are just not super-mega jacked like Jason Momoa, but they still look masculine enough (even with "pretty" faces). You also cherry-picked photos of them in quite young age. I mean look at Brad Pitt or Ryan Gosling now. They don't look like innocent boys as in the pics you posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:43 AM
1

Yes, I care. What's the point of being in a LTR with someone who I can't talk about anything not superficial? That will become boring really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 07:11 AM
2

That's true, but I make a distinction between romantic and friendly relations. It's totally possible (at least for me) to have friendly relations with women without thinking of sex at all, but romantic relations without sex? No, totally impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 12:50 PM
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"sex is the prime motivator for initially being friends" You're confusing friendly and romantic interactions. When I hang out with female friends I don't think of having sex with them. But going on a romantic date? Yes, sex and physical intimacy is on my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:30 AM
1

emotional and social support What even is that? I often hear about "emotional work" that women supposedly do in relationships, but I never heard concrete examples of that. Maybe as an introvert and pretty self-sufficient person it's hard for me to understand the need for these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 08:48 AM
2

Tall girls tend to be fat I've never seen tall and fat woman, lol. In fact the shorter the girl, bigger the chance she has excessive weight. Though it might be an american thing...Here in north europe most girls are quite high (I'd say at least 5'6-5'7 and over on average) and I don't see them struggle in dating because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:52 AM
1

Asian cultures have not undergone sexual revolutions like the western ones Lol. They also have later marriages, less kids per family and so on. It's slower than in western society, but they are undergoing same process. It's a global trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:40 AM
1

like Western/Northern Europe Housing is as crazy expensive here as in the US though. You're also not becoming rich right as you exit the college into your first job. Nobody has enough financial independance here in Europe to support a family until their late 20s-early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:38 AM
1

Pushing the average marriage age by almost a decade has left ample time for top tier men to pump and dump As if marrying as 20y old inexperienced barely over-teens, making kids because "it's the right way" and going through quickly deteriorating marriage with divorce in 30s is any better. People had become much less idealistic and romantic, Majority of people have never been "idealistic". You're romanticizing the past. loss of conservative values towards marriages. At some point "conservative" m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:33 AM
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hings to escalate She escalated things. If anything, you should have told that you only wanted to ask a question and made her apologize for misbehavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:16 AM
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I immediately apologized and left without even ordering anything since everyone else saw it too and started giving me stares. Shouldn't have apologized. Best thing would be to ignore her and continue being in line. Who cares about strangers giving you stares? And some crazy slapping you shouldn't make you feel ashamed. Your actions made her feel right and that only reinforces such actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:14 AM
2

Not UK, but in mainland EU (but close enough I guess).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 07:44 AM
1

Only form relationships with women who carry their own weight and who make your life better. You have to be incredibly lucky to find a women with such qualities, who is single and attracted to you. It's like hitting a jackpot - yeah, ideal, but quite unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 07:05 AM
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Good for you (seriously, it's always good when a person is self-sufficient), but there are millions of women who desire a men to take care of them and be a sole breadwinner, so they can be a self-entitled "queen"/"princess". The amount of such women is actually astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 06:51 AM
2

Apart from being somewhat inexperienced, those stereotypes couldn't be further from truth. I've studied in uni in male-dominated IT field, and most guys were just average to slightly above average guys, not some fat ugly neckbeards. They just didn't have much experience in dating due to being too logical and being mainly surrounded by guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 06:34 AM
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even my more attractive friends fuck below average girls And they are one of the reasons dating scene is so ruined. Below average girls feel they can get better looking men and stop looking in their own league. Also, what's wrong with not having sex with someone who you don't find appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:57 AM
1

"are 80% of your co-workers single" Well, not 80, but 35% of my male coworkers are single. While out of the female coworkers (current and past) only a couple were single for any substantial amount of men. So just from my anecdotal experience it looks like for men dating is harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:32 AM
3

I don't have any large statistics, but it feels like single dad is usually a conscious choice, something that a father wants to do and fights to have a right to raise kid on his own - so it kinda shows some value/determination in that man. While being a single mother is kinda default option for women after breakup/divorce, it doesn't inherently mean any positive qualities of that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:52 AM
2

If I am romantically attracted to someone, I am also sexually attracted to them (always, no exceptions). However I am sexually attracted to many women, who I have no romantic feelings for. I don't think this situation is abnormal for a male though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:03 AM
1

Touching me on a first date. Just ugh. I guess it's up to each own taste and the type of date you go for. Best first dates I had were with women open to touches (which ended up usually in making out)). Worst ones were where they were closed off and moved away at any sight of physical closeness - obv they weren't attracted enough to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 10:20 PM
1

Go ahead and tell me you talk to a puppy the same way you talk to your boss at work, or act the same around a baby or a policeman. What if I do though? Well, not exactly 100% the same, but the way I talk to different people doesn't vary much. It's always kinda-serious, but not too much way, with occasional joke here and there. I don't act super tense around boss or policemen (which I am actually kinda proud of, because I did have serious problems with fear of authority some years ago), nor do I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 09:58 PM
2

I don't think this advice will really work for everyone. You either radiate extreme charisma, or are just plain handsome and underestimate your looks. When I act uninterested people respond with same lack of interest. I have to actively communicate with other people to achieve any sort of chemistry, it just doesn't happen naturally.
/r/seduction13/03/19 07:49 AM
2

Because for a man you spend like $15 on an occasional haircut, 15 $ in my town will only get you basic haircut without any style - you'll be lucky to get an ok haircut for such price. Anything fancy from normal barber will cost $30-40. and $5 on a razor That'll only get you a shit-tier razor. clothing Nice clothes for men are not cheap either. and gym. Yeah, as if men don't go to gym, lol. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:10 PM
1

I live with my boyfriend so I can’t really take any breaks, it’s constant. If you have a boyfriend that can't handle when you have 1 day without spending 100s on makeup shit, then it's not a problem of "spending on dating" it's your choice of boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:03 PM
1

That would be comparable only if those 300 were spent for each and every date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 01:55 PM
1

Men tend to have a much smaller wardrobe, you didn't know that? Men spend less money on clothes. Men spend less on skincare. You're making tons of assumptions without even trying to prove them. Have you counted how much men spend on clothes? How much we spend on good haircuts? On going to gym and becoming fit? How much time is spent on advancing in career to be deemed as socially viable option for dating? And also spending tons on clothes and haircare is a choice, not a requirement for dating. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 01:44 PM
1

hair appointments nail appointments skin care makeup Don't you do it anyway, even when you don't date? I find it hard to believe that women drop caring about their looks as soon as they stop dating. Also you say it as if men don't put effort into skin care and haircuts. Probably the only thing we don't do from this list is makeup. Many attractive girls with nice skin, hair and nails are spending hundreds a month on products to look that way. I think here lies the problem. Majority of average wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 01:30 PM
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100 years ago as well. 100 years there was huge societal pressure to marry as young as possible. Many countries even had arranged marriages, and most people knew very little about brain development. Divorce was also extremely unaccepted. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 12:10 PM
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No, getting married young is not working anymore because it is irresponsible. Our brains aren't even fully developed until age 25. Most people haven't fully completed education and gotten stable career until late 20s. It's just stupid to marry young in our day and age and it has nothing to do with being "free and wild".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 12:04 PM
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" I'll check out their ass a few times and tits" Sounds like a solid recipe for being accused of sexual harrasment,lol )
/r/seduction03/03/18 03:25 PM
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