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In Mexico it is a huge issue too. Brazil is also following this route.
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 10:33 PM
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We keep moving away from traditional and local farming and cattle ranching via incentives to "modernize" and "take advantage of international trade liberalization". We consume more and more unhealthy GMO junk. The grounds are that "it feeds more people", but that is blatant lie. If that was the objective there would be no more hunger. We have plenty of natural resources still to produce enough food to feed everyone and keep everyone healthy, at least at a basic level. That also combines with the…
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 10:32 PM
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Seen that exact behavior before.
/r/MGTOW15/06/15 02:12 AM
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The last thing you need is more chemicals in your body.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 09:52 PM
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Where do I find that?
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 09:17 PM
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My friend, I don't like the word "empower" because it implies that your power comes from the outside. Your power is in you. If you chase power from the outside, you end up like a dog chasing its own tail. What you want is more important, but as soon as you realize and "you" and "them" are the same and essentially we want the same thing for all of us and we have been disguising it with individualistic needs. Money is only useful if you get it honestly and if it buys you things you need from peopl…
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 08:54 PM
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This where I completely loose the thread of feminist thinking. I have no problem with girls shitting in my apartment even if it stinks. In fact, me and my friends are fed up with girls pretending that they don't shit. They don't shit for themselves, not because we demand that from them. Go ahead, take a shit, that is what a toilet is for. Fuck us all. We are one the verge of WW3 and this is news.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 06:04 AM
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Everyone I keep in my life ends up being my friend when I need them. Maybe I subconsciously filter the ones that are not true friends by rationalizing that they are not "interesting people."
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 05:59 AM
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Welcome, brother. In this platform or elsewhere, you will find support to self-defining your worth. Let us know if you need any help with any specific issues or finding material.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 05:53 AM
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Essentially, all feminists are tradfem.
/r/MGTOW13/06/15 10:02 AM
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We just use porn because we got too lazy to use imagination/memory.
/r/MGTOW13/06/15 09:45 AM
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Lol, sounds about right. It is never good for a service business to solve anyone's problems in a single go. You need them to spend more and more money. That is why therapists never "cure" you. They need you to keep coming back for more solutions. What is next? How to cope being divorce-raped and not having access to your children? Coping may involve finding an old saggy bitch to bang? I am sure that they will find a good marketing package for that as well.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 11:46 PM
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Never excuse yourself from being passionate or having absolute ideas. We are living the climax of relativism and it is not good. What we really need is people to have the balls to say "fuck this, you people are insane."
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 11:31 PM
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not ever say you are MGTOW I am not going to nit-pick and point out the parts of your text I disagree with because I agree with the core of it. Thanks for the reminder, it is very much in order.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 11:06 PM
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I think this nice guy mechanic is separated from confidence, but that does not matter. I am a manly nice guy and in social settings I am seen as such. But in hookup culture, when you just want sex, focusing on the manly part gets you better results faster. Anyhow, I am done with that.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 05:26 AM
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Yes I understand your point and don't disagree. My point is that some people equate MGTOW to a refusal to marry for [inset reason here]. That is so simplistic.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 05:09 AM
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I've been nicer than ever before to them lately Lol that is so true. I remember way back before Red Pill stuff existed (or that I was aware of, anyway), I used to pick up the hottest chicks in university because I was an asshole to them for whatever reason (they were annoying me, I was on a bad mood, etc). I only understood the dynamic after studying evo bio and evo psych. So I started getting used to the idea of being an "asshole" to pick up women. And it works. But not only the women are not w…
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 05:04 AM
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I don't hate the game. And I would not hate it just for understanding it for what it is. I certainly don't expect society to change to play any game I would find more favorable. MGTOW is not a Marriage Strike or a chastity vote. You can do whatever you want. You just don't draw your own identity from female validation. That is all.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 04:55 AM
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This should be the basis for therapy. Therapists reinforce the opposite.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 04:49 AM
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Apparently this story has been removed from r/nottheonion on the grounds that it was "tabloid".
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 03:01 AM
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Valuing only prettiness is submitting yourself to the sex-fueled-machine definition of man stamped on you from generations ago. A lot of what sex really is for man is desire for female approval. Not trying to convince you. But seek out some quality material and ponder for yourself.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 02:59 AM
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Yep.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 10:08 PM
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In the end labels are just labels. MGTOW is not new, it is just a label. That label has help me self-actualize a lot. Later it may get hijacked, so there is no point in clinging too much to it.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 08:52 PM
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Thank you for writing what I was too lazy to write.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 05:25 AM
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What other 4 subs were banned? Just curious.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 05:22 AM
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Well at this point in the thread it is mainly just us two talking.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 03:44 AM
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Oh I get it. You are RooshV trying to convince us to adhere to neomasculinity. Welcome Roosh. I like your work, but neomasculinity is not for me.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 03:40 AM
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All right, you stated your point that MGTOW is a small part o the red pill philosophy. I disagree.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 03:28 AM
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Now, here is a question for you. Let's say in a magical world, marriage was not a raw deal for men. All the injustice that MGTOW rail against in marriage (child custody, unequal division of assests, hypergamy, etc) was gone. Would MGTOW not be ok with a man sleeping around in his 20's and then get married at 30? I'm not so sure. To answer that question one would have to define what marriage is in this magical world. Marriage traditionally entailed different responsibilities for the man and for t…
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 03:04 AM
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Why are you coming here and trying to evangelize MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:08 AM
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I understand your problem. It is YOUR problem. It is not OUR problem.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:03 AM
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Well said.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:00 AM
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Dude, some of us don't want to sleep with anyone. Why do you care? We are not here to give morals to society and don't try to bring your morals to us. We criticize whoever we want, for whatever reason we want. On a personal level: you believe in equality. I do not. I think men and women are different. I am not imposing my beliefs on you, don't impose your sacred belief in equality on me.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 01:48 AM
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What is the problem with using any phrase to anyone with a negative connotation? Is it only ok to call men pigs?
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 01:39 AM
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Now we are just arguing semantics. I think you are oversimplifying MGTOW. Your analysis is reductionist. But that is a matter of opinion.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 01:24 AM
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TRP is a metaphor. I am not talking about the metaphor and its multiple meanings. I am talking about the Reddit sub. I don't think MGTOW is simply an extension of Monk Mode. It is much more. There is a lot of good material about it. And not all of it is related to subjects discussed in the TRP sub.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 01:11 AM
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I think it is pointless to argue about which is better, TRP or MGTOW, especially here.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 12:55 AM
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I have no desire to do MGTOW propaganda. If TRPers think TRP is better, so be it.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 12:46 AM
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Sounds fair. I think about TRP and I think about I miserable I was even though I was achieving the supposed alpha objectives and how serene I am now.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 12:26 AM
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I agree. I actually don't read TRP, I might have overreached. I assumed the men there only talk about how to get women, quantitatively or qualitatively or how to "keep" them. I think that is a small part of the male existence, not the definition.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 12:07 AM
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"You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one"
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 12:03 AM
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The video does a good job of demonstrating what the endgame of killing the gamer identity was. What is the endgame of NOW?
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 11:33 PM
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Do they ever discuss that ejaculating on a regular basis decreases the risks of prostate cancer?
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 11:22 PM
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I love a good philosophical discussion, even though I only study it as a hobby. I don't buy relativism, even though it has been sold as a superior form of intellectualism since the European Renaissance. There is right and wrong and good and evil. One can not be told what it is. One can only remember.
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 11:15 PM
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That is part of the beauty of language.
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 11:09 PM
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If the censorship really comes from advertisement, this sub will be safe. It is a nice demographic for advertisers to explore. If the censorship is political, anything can happen. If I was a betting man I would bet on political.
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 11:04 PM
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But trp is not aware of the internal contradictions of their beliefs, MGTOW is.
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 11:01 PM
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Reddit said the only sub with more than 5k reads to be shut down was fatppl hate. We might have to leave Reddit altogether. We will see how soon.
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 09:20 PM
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This is huge. The whole attack in "Gamer Identity" was aimed at political indoctrination in schools. Holy shit, what a fuck up world. I wish I could unwatch that and remain ignorant.
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 05:34 AM
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No, that is not it. Tall, fit, relatively wealthy man can and do opt-out too. Even if they can get 10s to whatever relationship they want. The incentives given to women to act badly and men to seek female approval combined with male and female natural instincts is enough to make some man prefer to limit their romantic/sexual contact with women and stop deriving their self-worth from female approval. You don't need to be poor and ugly to use MGTOW to help yourself.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 10:05 PM
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Isn't one of the connotations of "I'm afraid that..." in English related to "The reality is that..."?
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 08:56 PM
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One thing is for sure: one of us is not self-aware.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 04:26 PM
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And if the OP "man's up" and "commits", when it comes true it was because he did not "chose right". That is said so you take your pick of the next abuser, who ,this time, is older and has more baggage.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 04:21 PM
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Let the anger flow through you.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 04:10 PM
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YOU HAVE TO TRY hahahahahahha
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 04:06 PM
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I suppose that is a fair point.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 02:22 AM
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Never knew salmonella could be used as a verb. I like it.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 09:58 PM
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Be at peace, sister.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 09:03 PM
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I don't feel the need to prove anything to you. You questioned my academic credentials, I replied. Doubt it if you want.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 06:15 PM
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You shaming me means you are trying to make me feel shame. I can then feel shame or not feel shame. I did not feel shame. Stay in peace!
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 06:05 PM
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No apology necessary, I did not feel shamed nor took offense. I hope you got the answers you sought!
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:55 PM
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You have been given plenty of speculations to answer the question. You just choose to ignore them and keep asking. They are only speculations because, to my knowledge, nobody has done a study asking "how are MGTOW and videogames related". You want to draw your own conclusions. Go ahead. And keep shaming us. It is very entertaining. Edit: I will answer this specifically: if you feel like you've always felt that video games were more fun than getting laid In the past, if there was no emotional bag…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:33 PM
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Nice, I hope he can help more men help themselves!
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:25 PM
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Geez, could it be that video games are fun and people like it? It has become so big that revenues for big titles surpass big title motion picture revenues? No... it can't be... otherwise... it would mean a vagina can be less fun than a videogame... does... not... compute...
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:02 PM
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How about 30% of human babies in US are not the biological sons of the men that women have led to believe are the fathers?
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:27 PM
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I did not dismiss your arguments because I think you are a female feminist. I will ignore the rest. Best of luck in your endeavors!
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:02 PM
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I can reply to whatever comment I want. I am replying to comments made by you in two separate threads because you are wrong in both but in each one the subject matter is different. Of course it is a metaphor, this is what people have being pointing out to you. You are the one who are claiming that the "biker" thing is concrete. Now if you are going to simply state that a biological theory has been disproven, it becomes a matter of faith, really. Evo biology and evo psych must be taken with a gra…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 03:45 PM
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Well I have an MBA from one of the top 20 business schools, a Masters Degree in a social sciences field from Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne and I have published material in academic journals and contributed to scientific books with whole chapters. The offer to help you with your research with monetary consideration stands. I love that kind of work and don't get to do it often. Please don't send me a dick pic, please. Edit: you can only validly state that I have resorted to ad hominem attacks if you c…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 03:27 PM
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Sure. I remember seeing a great post about it. I think it was called "the NAWALT irrelevance."
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 02:33 PM
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I don't believe you in one single bit that you are a man and - please - no dick pics. I have academic material to refute everything you are saying, but I expect to be compensated for it. If you are willing to pay me hourly, I will provide the information to you. Edit: Also, I said gamers ARE smarter, not gaming MAKES smarter, so correlation proves my point, thank you.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 02:17 PM
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You are clearly a female feminist. If you want to write blog post about how MGTOW are social rejects go ahead, feminists don't care about facts anyway. Here is the ugly reality you know exists and you are trying to convince us that it does not: females, in the human species and in others, will tend get a partner that secures resources even if he is not the most attractive and then cuckold him if she can with a more beautiful one. Alpha fucks, beta bucks. Feel free to continue to use shaming tact…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 02:04 PM
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Female feminist confirmed. Here is why: , love doing that Extra trying to be perceived as understanding "male" hobbies. dominated by men Says males "dominate" hobbies. become MGTOW because you've liked World of Warcraft States that someone is MGTOW because he cannot get a woman. porn, and gaming as their most common pastimes? States that porn is a pastime for males. Porn is something males use to help masturbation. Females use porn as a pastime (50 shades of gray) AND masturbation. Personally, I…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 01:29 PM
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Yeah but you get the point, you are doing what is best for you, not clinging to a title as a second-best option.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 10:01 AM
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From what I read she texted the guy she accused saying she wanted him to "fuck [her] in the butt". He texted back telling her to come over. She went; he did. Then she claimed that the sex was consensual but not the anal part. When the University saw the evidence (he had a good lawyer), they did not expel him. Regardless, she paraded around the campus with a mattress to shame him and even got art class credit for it.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 09:51 AM
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That is fucking awesome.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 08:54 AM
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Good luck trying to construct a castle for the princess there. I don't think Egypt (or any other country for that matter) would take a foreign invasion lightly on the grounds that "it's just a patch of desert."
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 08:14 AM
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This bitch is going to join the hordes of post-wall women asking where have all the good men gone.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 07:52 AM
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Very well articulated and most true. MGTOW would never had existed if we had not changed the language of the discussion in the first place.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 07:29 AM
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Stop wasting everybody's time.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 06:43 AM
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This is complete bullshit because there is no causation, but I will engage and throw you a bone. Gamers are smarter and drink less kool-aid than people who are influenced by mass media and mainstream "culture" instead. Smarter = more prone to become MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 06:22 AM
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become MGTOW because you've liked World of Warcraft This makes no sense.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:38 AM
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I agree with the OP. The whole point about cultural Marxisms, etc. is that is created incentives for the behavior we see today. It is a tool for understanding the change in the bigger picture. Nevertheless, the behavior is a choice, it was not forced upon man an women. If you try to rationalize that "it was not people's fault, they were made to do this by society" your are in a mental prison desperately clinging to an illusion projected by the former system of incentives.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 08:04 PM
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If that is the case, these guys have the a mental condition as bad as feminism.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 09:20 AM
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I don't see the slut shaming trend here in Reddit, but imagine that if that was the case it would be an emotional reaction to what society has become rather slut-shaming a woman or women in general. Traditionally, the "guardians" of morality were women, who increased their collective power by creating a perception that sex was scarce.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 09:12 AM
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Why would PUAs slut-shame? From their logic, the sluttier the better, I would assume.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 09:06 AM
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I really don't see a slut-shaming trend in MGTOW. I can choose not to be with a slut but that is not slut-shaming. The next day I may chose to be with a slut because I want quick low effort sex. Who are you arguing against?
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 07:06 AM
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We would make a nice "bad cop - good cop" routine in an 80's movie.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 04:40 AM
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There is no answer to the "Am I MGTOW" question because MGTOW is not a movement nor a club. It's about self-actualization. Find good sources of information and see if it applies to you.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 03:34 AM
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I'd like to separate the individual vs. the social to address this subject. On an individual level, a lot of PUAs fail to recognize that the bad-boy vs. "beta provider" is a construct of the lizard part of the female brain. It holds no objective value. This drives PUAs crazy when they get laid a lot with hot women because less and less internal satisfaction come from it. It just becomes a handicap, an addiction. I don't want female interaction right now, but If I want them in the future I might …
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 12:01 AM
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If you are at peace with yourself you can celebrate marriages that end up working, which is rare but can happen. If if your buddy gets divorce-raped, you will be there for him.
/r/MGTOW06/06/15 03:47 AM
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He is just smart and wise. Who cares how he got his conclusions?
/r/MGTOW06/06/15 01:34 AM
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Check out Lenon Honor on youtube. Even though I don't subscribe to some his views on a personal level (he seems tradcon) and I am not black (he talks about black identity), some of his material have given me useful tools for self-reflection.
/r/MGTOW05/06/15 07:53 PM
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This shows how feminism ultimately "infantilizes" women. "I did because the guys at the club made me do it. I am not responsible for my actions." Pathetic.
/r/MGTOW05/06/15 07:44 PM
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Is there ever going to be a day in which people are going to ask themselves: "why is this news?"
/r/MGTOW05/06/15 04:40 AM
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I have seen discussions about men with very little to no "romantic"/sexual experience with women claiming to be MGTOW. I have still not made up my mind on how to address this, but I will try to summarize the points made: - You don't need to get burned to learn that fire hurts. You can learn from other people's experiences. - However, one could argue that having little to no experiences might lead someone being more easily manipulated in the future by a NAWALT. - MGTOW is not a movement and there…
/r/MGTOW04/06/15 10:07 PM
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Well, I used a few marriage counselors before divorce and they only help a little bit, because it all goes back to this bullshit. But one thing I really think happens is wymyn leave men they love sometimes because they cannot change him. When she met you you were independent-minded and did your own thing, but after you marry, she expects you to be a full-time servant that pays the bills. If you don't become that, she might leave you because she will be afraid that she does not measure up. I real…
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 01:00 AM
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The duality is strong here. Wymyn want us to marry when they want by pushing a bachelor tax agenda, while the shadow government wants to depopulate the earth to make it easier to control.
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 12:43 AM
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Dude, I am sorry to hear that. If you are more responsible than your parents, consider cutting them loose.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 05:43 AM
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I believe in AWALT You clearly don't.
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 07:25 PM
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And constant fear so you give away your liberties and say "thank you".
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 07:04 PM
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Drip... drip
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 01:52 PM
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IS was created by the US to do their dirty work. Don't believe me, do your own research. Start at the cold war conflict in Afghanistan.
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 01:49 PM
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New profession: the "beta" male prostitute. You pay him for his time and expenses and he pretends to take you out to dinner, paying for everything (counts as expenses, ofc).
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 01:43 PM
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That is some good comedy out there. Check this out: "She has even offered a finder’s fee for anyone who brings a new male client into the fold. But so far the results have proven uneven." Dowry making a comeback? LOL
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 05:38 AM
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Have you tried "Why?" Let them listen to their own nonsense.
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 05:33 AM
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I agree, this is completely irrelevant.
/r/MGTOW27/05/15 06:38 PM
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Being "accused" of being gay is very common. Looking back, I think my first step into MGTOW was taken when my ex gloated about how she could make us have a baby by just stopping the pill without telling me. I replied I could make the choice to by refusing to fuck her. The immediate response was: "are you gay"? Hilarious.
/r/MGTOW27/05/15 05:49 PM
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I'd say its spot-on. Personally I would just change the word "jobs", because MGTOW can help men get away from wage-slavery.
/r/MGTOW27/05/15 05:43 AM
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Find out what common law marriage means in your jurisdiction before you pull that shit off. Even not moving in, just having a public relationship can get you "divorce-raped".
/r/MGTOW27/05/15 04:30 AM
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It is part sad part amusing watching people using classical shaming tactics against people that are immune to it.
/r/MGTOW27/05/15 01:39 AM
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I think this suggestion is more suited to the MRM, not MGTOW. MGTOW are not trying to actively victimize themselves nor change society directly. Also, I think there is already a project under that name. So, thanks, but no thanks.
/r/MGTOW27/05/15 01:37 AM
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I have had therapy and most of my friends as well. It can only help to a certain extent. When deep issues make you confront the force-feed fake reality, therapists cannot help you anymore. Everybody has issues nowadays because the contrast between what you are being told is normal and the empirical or anecdotal evidence you find is latent. For some, ignoring everything and just having a routine is enough to keep sane. That is why you see so many people nowadays having religious devotion to a hob…
/r/MGTOW26/05/15 11:06 PM
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When did feeling offended become a virtue and being a victim became a profession?
/r/MGTOW26/05/15 07:42 PM
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If you are going to go that road, lawyer up first.
/r/MGTOW26/05/15 05:13 PM
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Man, that is so sad. I lived in America once and I really admire American people. They manage to keep good qualities despite being constantly told what to think. Regardless of all the political propaganda, free speech is one area in which "freedom" actually represents something good. Yeah the world is fucked up but so many Americans worked extremely hard on innovating and perfecting technologies and services. This kind of thing leads to a downward spiral, taking the world down with it. It is so …
/r/MGTOW26/05/15 04:10 PM
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Yes, and yet people always think NAWALT. Often the girl is a completely different person pre-marriage.
/r/MGTOW26/05/15 04:22 AM
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There is no solution to this situation. You have to opt out. Who is going to believe you when, between two walls, with no witnesses, your wife hurts herself hitting you and accuses you of doing it? In our feminized society, even your friends might say that you were "always a violent person" just because you were into sports, lifting, military, martial arts, whatever. If you tape things in secret the evidence might be thrown out. The only choice is not to play the game.
/r/MGTOW26/05/15 12:33 AM
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While I agree with some of the principles Roosh stated, I also agree that his attempt to steer society back into traditionalism might not bring a positive change in society. I think MGTOW is the only thing that helps men right now, on an individual level. But we must consider his word of caution about MGTOW potentially degenerating due to MOB rule and "left" influence.
/r/MGTOW25/05/15 07:07 PM
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I think your fear of being alone is fear of yourself. Watch all of Spetsnaz' videos, one or two a day.
/r/MGTOW25/05/15 12:20 AM
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This video and the preceding "You're arrogant" are great. Before I divorced my ex-wife, her simp of a father told me: "I get it. You are proud." It was meant to sound proud as in "the quality of having an excessively high opinion of oneself or one's importance." But what he really was saying was: "the consciousness of one's own dignity."
/r/MGTOW24/05/15 08:43 PM
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Acknowledging how you wanted to be regain the lost love of your mother and how you wanted to conform by being a "good man" helps realize that you are not really that addicted to sex, you were just made yourself that way.
/r/MGTOW24/05/15 08:18 PM
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What is the point of marriage anyway? If you want to get screwed by a woman and the government you just need to get one bitch pregnant. You don't have to be married to ruin your life.
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 04:45 PM
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And to think the American Ivy League was once the envy of the world... what a disgrace...
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 10:32 AM
3

This. This guy gets it more than I do. I agree with Bar Bar and RazorBladeKandy when they say that we will get attacks from people that want to keep the MGTOW ideas contained. Controlling the language is a way to do it.
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 06:55 AM
1

This often comes up. You are right - but - going through anger can be a process to self-defining worth. Therefore, we don't need to stop angry rants altogether because it helps people starting their journey to defining their identities.
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 06:11 AM
3

I used to wonder why even my friends that had the most success with hotter women when they were younger ended up marrying uglier women than they used to date, even though they got rich and keep a degree of looks. This explains. One of them even said that "marriage is not about liking your wife... it is about being with someone that makes you feel comfortable..."
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 03:57 AM
2

How can hypergamy be on a decline? It is biological. We can curtail our instincts, but not remove them. It would be the same thing as saying polygamy is on a decline. It can be on a social level, but not a biological one. It is one thing for men to cheat less, it would be another thing altogether for men not to get horny looking at pretty young women. Do you have any source for this u/master0jack?
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 03:09 AM
2

Someone has popcorn?
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 03:05 AM
6

I'll give it a go. - The assertions made regard the female gender of the human species. There might have been variance during evolution / devolution, but it does not appear to be the case. - It appears to be mostly biological. This goes for men too. - Is not within the goals of MGTOW to change women or society. Our goals are to understand and improve ourselves and maybe help other men do the same. People can change only to a certain degree and nothing can change biological imperatives, only supp…
/r/MGTOW22/05/15 06:51 AM
3

Would help explain why the majority of divorces are filed by women after no-fault divorce laws have been enacted.
/r/MGTOW21/05/15 09:44 PM
1

Biology is not really my field but if you would like to add interdisciplinarity (is that a word?) to your study I would suggest looking up the historical accounts of the Amazons of the Caucasus.
/r/MGTOW21/05/15 04:59 AM
1

MGTOW is about how things affect you, not how they affect women.
/r/MGTOW20/05/15 07:25 PM
3

Funny. Either she is really wet or she wants to be the hero that "proved" that MGOTW man are really craving for any stinky pussy in denial.
/r/MGTOW20/05/15 05:40 AM
1

Thanks for the video, but I think that the "win" for a MGTOW is (i) "forging our own identities and path to self-defined success, cutting through collective ideas of what a man is" (as per the sidebar) and/or (ii) helping other men do the same.
/r/MGTOW20/05/15 05:32 AM
18

Regardless of MGTOW, the ultimate irony is that guys that look like the guys in this video will mostly just use thin-lipped fat bitches like this chick for pump and dump while they sing their demands for their future husbands to their cats, their wall or at twitter.
/r/MGTOW17/05/15 12:48 PM
2

Can you explain in laymen's terms the basis for comparison of evolutionary strategies withing a single species (ours)? Maybe you already explained that somewhere but I did not quite grasp it.
/r/MGTOW17/05/15 12:40 PM
2

It's fine mate. Post-modern discourse only discourages the free flow of ideas. My main worry is people getting caught up in ideas about sexual dimorphism and forgetting to consider all of the possible implications of a purely synthetic reproduction system at the elemental level. Consequences are impossible to predict and simulate at the current state of the art. They can be unimaginably dire. We need to have patience on the subject.
/r/MGTOW17/05/15 12:31 PM
0

Sorry, you are correct. I did not read enough and don't understand the science as well as you do.
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 11:13 PM
-1

Is this supposed to be academic? The species needs eggs and sperm to recombinate DNA and produce a healthy supply of humans, even if we have artificial wombs. Gynocentrism will always exist in one form or another because one man can get many women pregnant. It does not have to disappear, we, men, just need to respect ourselves and cultural paradigms must be respectful to our biological function and curtail male and female bad behavior. I am not advocating a return to traditionalism, but in the f…
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 08:40 PM
3

That girl is doing everyone a favor by showing the how ridiculous it is to have a whole system of belief based on the "oppressor-oppressed" mentality. Logically she is right because society affords the same benefits to the other "oppressed". Why not take advantage of it when you can? Obliviously, it is not her that is wrong, it is the whole system of belief that caters to the "oppressed" by asserting that stratified results are alone a justification for mandatory preference for the "oppressed".
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 08:26 AM
6

I can make moral choices and feel good about it
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 06:01 AM
1

BPD is often used by psychologists that don't want to say a girl is just being the typical manipulative selfish bitch while making some money in the process
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 05:35 AM
2

Good save
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 05:29 AM
3

Why of course he is! If he wants to have a "dad-bod" or become a beached whale, that is his choice. We suggest healthy leaving here, but for oneself, not to fullfill another's expectations.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 03:46 PM
3

You, Sir, have achieved ultimate MGTOWness.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 03:02 PM
9

I know we joke about that but in modern criminal legal systems that contract would be void, because consent can be withdrawn validly anytime without a requirement of form. Strictly legally, you would have to get her to sign a release between pumps in a "yes means yes" system... even then she can claim she was coerced or under duress.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 10:22 AM
9

Yes I read about that. I also read about I guy that was forced to pay child support after a woman used his sperm from a sperm bank. But if raping man entitles a women to child support... that would be the biggest legal clusterfuck in history... I really hope it does not come to that, but I am not a skeptic of anything anymore
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 10:11 AM
9

It was too recent to report any significant change. But it helped shrug of a depression that was not going away with meds (they made it worse) or therapy (feminized bullshit pseudo-science). Edit: I am not saying not to do therapy if you are depressed. But from what I have seen, therapist tend to downplay female bad behavior (calling psychopathic behavior BPD) and encouraging you to play by society's rules and get a girlfriend - which could be a good thing in times of old.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 09:55 AM
10

Fuck, that would be really serious. Imagine if that really became more and more a common thing? The girl rapes you and claims you raped her? I sure hope the AnCaps boys make some men-only seasteads so I can go live my life there instead of any country...
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 09:32 AM
7

Dude, someone should run a script to copy MGTOW. I don't want this to be associated with MensRights.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 09:02 AM
16

Many men will go to prison and get raped for real there in the meantime and nobody will raise an eyebrow.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 08:49 AM
20

REPORTED RAPE CASES AT ALL TIME HIGH AS CONVICTION RATES FALL Forget innocent until proven guilty. If you read carefully, they are treating "reports" as "rapes" and "people not found guilty" as "rapist that escaped conviction". There used to be a time in which journalist would call a person against whom a crime charge was levied "accused". Now the media calls them "criminals". All I can say is, regardless whether you think MGTOW is for you or not, do not have sex in Great Britain, or with a Brit…
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 08:39 AM
10

Also, freedom for me meant understanding male need for motherly love. That is a hard pill to swallow but leads to enlightenment.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 08:03 AM
17

This. I also felt superior when I was getting laid a lot. It only caused me to disgust myself later. Good thing that you realized that you don't need to be an asshole to be a man. Good thing too that you took care of your body and eating. That ultimately benefits yourself. Whatever you chose to do in the future, you are informed and free.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 08:01 AM
8

This reminds me of an argument with my ex. She used to switch back-and-forth between saying she wanted a baby from me and saying she would never have my baby because I was not a "real man". She claimed she could have the baby anytime she wanted because she would just stop the pill and not tell me. I told her I could make the choice by refusing to have sex. Drove her crazy!
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 07:08 AM
3

It will be funny when they claim they did it first, in order to indulge in the "you can't fire me, I quit!" type entitlement.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 06:54 AM
2

Thanks for the info. Who cares? (not sarcastic. I mean both)
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 06:20 AM
6

Church has demonized sex in order to curtail male polygamy and female hypergamy and cuckoldry, which makes humans work better in civilization. It was effective. It was against our nature, but it had a purpose, and that purpose was generally achieved, in spite of creating false guilt in individuals sometimes. Feminism, which is a another form of gynocentrism, has no purpose. It only makes things worse. I am not advocating the return to traditionalism, but just pointing out that that feminism is m…
/r/MGTOW14/05/15 09:13 PM
3

The belief that you should like each racial prototype equally is so ingrained in our minds that we don't realize how insane it is. We are free to have our preference, regardless of what women in the west are doing (i.e. the short guy analogy). Everything that does not conform to the ludicrous idea that the white male is bad is deemed racist and/or sexist. It is the same logic of "oppressor-victim" that fuels feminism combined with issues of race. Everyone can want to fuck whatever race they want…
/r/MGTOW14/05/15 09:02 PM
1

I will name it: "If you don't eat shit, you are oppressing my anus." It will be full of college hipsters.
/r/MGTOW13/05/15 09:14 PM
17

Very interesting. It is a rather harmless little experiment. But I doubt a teacher could get away with declaring "boy's day" in class in the West without getting fired and shamed for "oppressing".
/r/MGTOW13/05/15 12:32 PM
8

That is a nice thought but the ultimate irony is that you might have helped a guy get a girl's number when ultimately she is going to bleed him dry, cuckold, take his assets and future earnings.
/r/MGTOW13/05/15 12:27 PM
2

MTGOW works because it is not a movement. It is just about men helping themselves climb out of a whole we put ourselves in in the first place. PUAs might still be in the hole. Someone might claim to follow MGTOW's ideas and deep down wish he was just a blind slave. But we won't know and don't care. There is no lying to society about being MGTOW. There is only lying to yourself.
/r/MGTOW13/05/15 12:18 PM
-1

Is not ironic, it's societal norms that changed. They were the same evil creatures before, but had no advantage by showing their true form.
/r/MGTOW13/05/15 11:06 AM
16

When the reporter says that she found she could not believe that anyone would say that "to a Woman", substitute "Women" for "Noble" or "Wise Guy" or "Lord". Food for thought.
/r/MGTOW13/05/15 12:17 AM
3

"Yes means yes" is worse than what I think you understand it to be. It means that the absence of express consent does not imply consent and that the consent must be continuous. That means that even if she signs a document before the sex, you will be considered a rapist if you did not ask her during the sex if her consent persisted. Also, even if you prove consent by document, she can claim that she was physiologically coerced into signing it, making it void.
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 10:42 PM
1

This is clearly gynocentric. The decision has no legal grounds. I am very curious about gynocentriscm in Turkey, specifically. Anybody has more information on what form it is manifesting at present?
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 09:19 PM
9

The problem with your though experiment is that you are assigning typical male thinking to a women. They don't think like that. If they are smart, they will get a degree and marry a rich guy or a guy with potential for getting rich. They will have kids so they cal play the mommy card. They will resent their husband for supporting her and divorce him if bored with life. They will cheat if it is not damaging to their reputation and remarry a richer guy if they can (most can't because older women h…
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 07:42 PM
4

"Holliday hopes to change the landscape of the fashion industry." I'll open a restaurant that serves shit and hope people realize that shit tastes good.
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 07:34 PM
4

Great counter-points. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 01:31 PM
6

Part of women's behavior has been promoted by natural selections. But it does not means that "they cannot help themselves but behave badly". That would mean that humans would would be throwing their feces at each other as chimps do.
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 01:30 PM
4

As to "it's an idea that you either follow or don't", I just wanted to point out that you can embrace this idea without going full monk (I choose full monk for myself).
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 01:11 PM
9

I did not make this post to advocate. I made it to ask a question and state my current thinking on the subject. I do not want to propagate r/theredpill. MGTOW was "The" red pill for me metaphorically. The truths I learned were hard to swallow. I do not want to act in any way to make myself more attractive to women because they have nothing to offer me. The whole notion of "alpha" and "beta" only exists in a women's brain, which is a small place.
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 01:09 PM
3

What do you mean? In the metaphorical sense or is no r/theredpill?
/r/MGTOW12/05/15 12:34 PM
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