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False Accusationvzen/r/MensRights11/11/15 09:12 PM
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vzen/r/MensRights01/03/17 01:45 PM
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vzen/r/MensRights28/07/15 04:47 AM
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vzen/r/MensRights02/08/13 05:52 AM
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I agree. I would at least not encourage the firm if I contracted with them. Although... part of me actually wants to hire the guys more after seeing this, so one could hope there will be an ironic boon for Hux that causes some amusing reflection.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:59 PM
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I wonder to what degree sex discrimination laws apply here.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 01:17 PM
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I did, then stopped for reasons I mentioned. Re: having someone film me, see earlier point about lack of volunteers.
/r/MensRights07/05/17 11:57 PM
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Pffffffft yeah
/r/MensRights07/05/17 05:48 PM
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we fear being mislabelled Oh, I know. Experience confirms that is not fun. Here's a police report with a false allegation on me. There's more where that came from. But you all have had this fear for nearly a century. Moving up and changing things means taking risks. I took them, and many other good, strong people took them. And boy, do we wish more people would step up and make it look like the shaming doesn't work. So when will you feel better about working in today's projects, even anonymously…
/r/MensRights07/05/17 03:02 PM
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Veteran MRA for over 5 years here. No, but I want to be wrong. I define growth differently than the others ITT. I measure a movement by its ability to govern and take action, not persuade. Being right does not help much when believable nonsense has more leverage than difficult truth. You can say that things are changing, but the image of women, not necessarily the demographic, is the 800-pound gorilla that kills egalitarian legislation before you learn it's even on the agenda. I could stop all o…
/r/MensRights07/05/17 06:07 AM
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Not my intention, but I see what you mean. I will remove this immediately.
/r/MensRights03/05/17 05:37 AM
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Thank you. I just want people to view things from different perspectives, and by doing so I can understand their perspective too. You are very close, it's just the other way around. When you work to make someone feel understood, they will in turn want to understand you. The people who don't deserve that kind of love and compassion tend to make themselves known in the end. But few want to listen to someone who demands to be understood before understanding someone else. That kind of dilemma plague…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 08:08 PM
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Oh, it gets better. There's a salon near me that only services men, and it's awesome. They let me have free bourbon while I wait in the lobby.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 07:28 PM
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Sure. But it is a huge leap to say what his motives behind that are, and it is a huge leap to translate what he said into "women shouldn't have private gyms." The way you approached everything in this thread so far is to assume that the members of this community don't understand what women go through and want to take away the resources made in light of that. That bias is making it harder for you to have a dialogue, and I'm trying to point that out. You seem smart and can handle the discussion, b…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 07:22 PM
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I detected Okay, stop. You didn't "detect," you assumed. I think you are reading too much into the motive of the comment without asking for clarification. But sexual assault and unwanted advances are a big problem that most people here don't seem to realize This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. The assumption that other people don't know something completely fucking obvious. You think people here don't understand that sexual assault and unwanted advances are a big problem? See, that's what mak…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 06:56 PM
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The comment said: Women also get all female gyms. That one always bothered me And you said: Like there was a comment on this post saying women shouldn't have private gyms Do you see the problem here? The inserted assumption of what was meant?
/r/MensRights18/04/17 06:53 PM
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Okay, you are trying to be civil about this and I appreciate that. The reason I got frustrated is because I keep seeing this attitude that looks like "No one recognized the importance of women until I showed up." You are in a community of men and women who are frustrated about how men are treated. This alone does not displace or undermine the suffering of women. But the fact that someone needs to come in and remind (nag?) the community that women DO suffer comes off as condescending because they…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 06:51 PM
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Like the comment I replied to said something sounding like women don't REALLY have issues with rape/sexual assault No it didn't. It did however point out a problem in numbers. 1/5 or 1/4 women victimized by sexual assault is a gross inflation. You wouldn't be able to walk across UGA at 8 PM without hearing women screaming. They also don't even match stats reported via the Clery Act. It's not about saying women don't have issues, it's about saying that culturally we have a problem with perceiving…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 04:44 PM
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But why would you want to take away women's resources? Will you stop with that shit? Why is it that every time a post like this comes up it gets taken as if someone wants to "take something away" from women? "And yes, it fucking sucks how a lot of men have no resources to go to when something like that happens, and that's something our society should work on." Bingo. Now that you said that, how about checking the monkey on your back at the door and talking to people here as if they are human bei…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 04:27 PM
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I ran a student group and lobbied a VP on this exact subject. This article from Kennesaw State touches on it. First of all, it doesn't have to be a building. It could be a program, a department, or even just a club. The scale may be telling, but the way Title IX fits into this depends on more than just the area of the campus affected. KSU has their Women's Resource center, so I posed the Title IX question to Bob Mattox of KSU with a couple of my posse. His answer had to do with staffing: Involvi…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 04:16 PM
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I can only speculate from here, but the House including their language in a Senate bill that tackles a different issue is like saying "If you get rid of our law, you have to get rid of the Senate's law too."
/r/MensRights29/03/17 10:32 PM
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Where did you get "instead" from? Do you seriously believe that people actually don't care about rape, or are you intentionally acting like an ass?
/r/MensRights21/03/17 12:57 AM
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If this bill passes, campuses have to involve due process instead of handling criminal allegations themselves. Take time to research the details if you can. Thanks in advance if you reach out to a Senator.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 11:15 PM
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Hey boss, pm me anytime!
/r/MensRights11/03/17 12:17 AM
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Want to ditto most of this. Went down to the capitol today and I even heard from Senators personally that THE single most effective approach is to bring your testimony to committee hearings in person. Those who cannot do so are better served sharing their OWN WORDS on EMAIL or phone . So yes, again, don't use a script, but do keep it polite and civil. Senators told me just today that they do not appreciate hostile emails and some may even be swayed in the opposite direction. If you message a leg…
/r/MensRights11/03/17 12:05 AM
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why not get like 20 dudes together and hold a protest A couple of reasons: We'd be lucky to get 20. Look at how much attention this post got compared to others despite being stickied. I've been active for at least 4 years, and most people who call themselves MRAs won't assemble unless you do all the organizational work for them, add a celebrity personality or two and make things entertaining. There's only a golden few MRAs who would care about this bill on their own accord. The rest won't care u…
/r/MensRights08/03/17 12:37 PM
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That's kind of a bummer if the tally means what I think it means
/r/MensRights06/03/17 10:35 PM
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Yeah, me then. And thanks!
/r/MensRights05/03/17 06:05 PM
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I don't know of any movement in Georgia before my work, although I knew I wasn't the only person who believed in what we were doing. I went public in Georgia with Zen Men (formerly KSU Men). We did a lot of stuff, and false accusations were only one aspect. Does this or this look familiar?
/r/MensRights05/03/17 05:15 PM
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You've been awesome for following this. Thank you and good luck!
/r/MensRights05/03/17 05:10 PM
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That may have been me, but others could have come along. Did that person start on a campus?
/r/MensRights05/03/17 03:39 PM
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Look, I get it, but as someone who actually lives here and talks to the reps, I am trying to help you get context on the situation. Meanwhile, if you refuse to try to sway someone, then that limits the credibility of any complaints you have about where they go. You are much better served trying and then holding them responsible for what they say instead of just running away. Even one D vote in support of the bill is huge given the circumstances. If you don't buy it, that's fine. We appreciate wh…
/r/MensRights04/03/17 11:24 PM
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Oh, okay. Well, I respect your perspective but I need you to understand that there are people in the world who suffer other than you. Part of the reason I'm supporting this bill is because any mention of sexual assault victims is supposed to basically grind the conversation to a halt and make us all care about them. Which is fine, except for the fact we are supposed to care about ONLY them. This is a bill that says that sexual assault victims AND the people who are falsely accused deserve someth…
/r/MensRights04/03/17 05:47 PM
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Going to play devil's advocate here and remind everyone that Democrat senators may feel justified opposing the bill after being sent comments like this one. Not that I don't get the frustration. I agree with your point, even. Democrats taking such a firm stance against what should be a consistent legal doctrine is not a good sign, and brings partisan politics into what should be a non-partisan issue. But when I was at the state capitol I heard reps say explicitly that they are tired with anyone …
/r/MensRights04/03/17 03:46 PM
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This totally endangers us Who is "us"?
/r/MensRights03/03/17 11:22 PM
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Yep!
/r/MensRights03/03/17 11:12 PM
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Thank you so much for doing that! Anyone who can update us in this way helps out citizens on the ground visiting the representatives in person.
/r/MensRights25/02/17 07:16 PM
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You can leave a message on the weekend, thank you for the help! :)
/r/MensRights25/02/17 12:51 AM
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Go to bed.
/r/MensRights18/02/17 05:34 AM
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Here is the final Campus SaVE Act, I believe as it was passed: That's the VAWA reauthorization. Different (parent) bill. (EDIT: SaVE was a part of the re-authorization, but the text you link shows amendments to SaVE, not the full text) Are you going to write to a rep?
/r/MensRights17/02/17 08:06 PM
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See my other comment.
/r/MensRights17/02/17 06:50 PM
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The preponderance standard was established by the Campus SaVE Act after the fact. So even though the letter's call for a preponderance standard WASN'T backed by a law, it is now (Search for "preponderance" in this page.), and has been since March 7, 2013 when Obama signed it into law. Was the Dear Colleague letter based solely in law at the time of writing? No. Are there administrators who had a field day with the letter? Probably. Were shady under-the-table threats and deals taken with some uni…
/r/MensRights17/02/17 06:48 PM
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It only feels like "law" because few schools want to risk cuts caused by pissing off the DOE. The DOE does not create schools or colleges directly, but rather deals with policy enforcement, among other things. One way they can do this on an executive (NOT legislative) level is with the power of the purse. "Hey, you might want to do this, because it would be a shame if something happened to your budget."
/r/MensRights17/02/17 02:00 PM
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...they went ahead and used this letter as an excuse... Sure, but that's not the primary reason. The Dear Colleague letter also came with a wink-wink-nudge-nudge suggesting that not following the preponderance standard might have an effect on funding. Post-secondary institutions don't want to piss off anyone who gives them money, and the same can be said for HB 51 (considering it is coming through the 70+ member appropriations committee, who's job is literally to decide who gets Georgia's money)…
/r/MensRights17/02/17 01:55 PM
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Link fixed, thanks. If you read any of the articles I linked near the top, you will find a template
/r/MensRights17/02/17 12:44 PM
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Hey all, please see the latest update on the opposition here! We need you NOW.
/r/MensRights17/02/17 05:02 AM
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Ok. Fine. I am wrong. There is no overlap or analogy between physical and behavioral treatments and the motivations to get them. The doctors are completely disjoint, unnecessary and in fact threatening to all patients. You are qualified to speak to how mental health patients should heal. Whatever. I'm out.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:41 PM
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Sure, but that's not the point on which you are being challenged. The point is if a man who needs help should seek it. I say yes because sometimes people need it. You say no because a risk exists. By that logic no one should go to hospitals because sometimes patients get misdiagnosed and die.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:13 PM
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I was institutionalized before (by my own choice) and went to a high school for emotionally disturbed children. Instead of assuming that I have no idea what I'm talking about, consider the possibility that I do. Some help I got was better than others, I just had to keep looking and play politics accordingly.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 01:16 PM
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No, I don't recall ever hearing about Ryerson for any reason, ever. http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/barbara-kay-ryerson-drags-mens-issues-group-through-the-wringer http://theeyeopener.com/2015/10/mens-issues-group-proposed/ http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/angry-young-men/ (corroborates others) Google for more. Hey, fuck you. You posted something on a website designed for feedback. By posting here in the first place, you solicited the judgement of everyone subscribed. Hey, fuck you t…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 11:14 AM
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If I tried to handle all of the problems I've had by myself, I would have attempted suicide a second time with every intention of following through. I needed help, and I'm glad I got it. There's absolutely no reason to discourage people from seeking help.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 03:22 AM
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I disagree with both you and /u/Clockw0rk for there being no story, for one reason and one attitude. The reason is that this is damned interesting. Some guy rambling about Nazis gets carted off by cops over loud complaints about nightmares, leaving more questions than answers about the situation leading up to when the guy hits "Record." CNN breaking news? Maybe not. A story? Hell yes. I wanna look at this a bit longer. Relevant to men's rights or not, this is a story. But regarding relevance... …
/r/MensRights11/01/16 03:15 AM
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If he actually does have cruisers around his house, then all he did by bringing it up is make the doctor think that there's a reason cruisers are there. But before we go too far down that route, in ~5:30 the doctor did say something in the video that she believed the student not only had a mental illness and was intimidating to someone. Given Ryerson's history I'm tempted to think that cops coming in on the premise of a threatening male student is evidence enough that male students are under spe…
/r/MensRights10/01/16 02:30 PM
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I'm feeling serious cognitive dissonance here. On one hand I don't want to be the next callous prick that makes assumptions about a man. On the other if he were in my office making that much noise and projecting that much panic, I'd probably want him to leave. The fact that his other videos are dedicated almost exclusively to calling people Nazis isn't helping him look good. Here's hoping to a sound resolution where no one gets hurt. This looks fucked up in many different ways.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 02:24 PM
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TL;DW: Doctor believes male student is dangerous after he requests to talk to someone about his nightmares. Doctor calls police to commit student. Male student disagrees strongly with her decision, calls for deescalation. Police come in and detain student regardless. I should clarify here that I literally just got this link and need more context. Other videos on the uploader's channel suggest that he is used to confronting authority figures, so it's hard for me to tell if that confrontational be…
/r/MensRights10/01/16 02:15 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Ad is still up today though.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 09:02 PM
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http://reference.avoiceformen.com/wiki/Main_Page
/r/MensRights30/11/15 05:40 AM
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You've never seen a feminist shame a man by insinuating he hates or avoids women?
/r/MensRights20/11/15 08:10 PM
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You are a KSU student?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 03:12 PM
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Hi! That site is no longer maintained. New site is Zenmen.org
/r/MensRights12/11/15 01:36 AM
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Split up leadership as to make multiple targets rather then just you. That only works if the split leadership has comparable exposure and no one looks like the big boss. People have a bias to attack the top. I split my leadership across an officer team, but I was still the exclusive target at my group, and every chapter of the syndicate suffered the same problem. IMO it's more realistic to assume that you WILL be attacked and prepare accordingly, instead of arranging chess pieces and assuming th…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 02:43 PM
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We re-branded as Zen Men after starting chapters off of Kennesaw State. And yes, financial assistance is available. :)
/r/MensRights03/11/15 02:40 PM
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From my experience if someone can get you to say "I don't hate women", they've already put you on the defensive and therefore in a bad political position.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 02:39 PM
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Don't... I know this sounds bad but it's just not worth it. That DOES sound bad. It is TOTALLY worth it.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 02:37 PM
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Hi, my name is Sage Gerard. I did this and went national. Contact my team for free advising at zenmen.org, or pm me here. The work is highly stressful, but also among the most fulfilling things that you can do with your life. As long as you can endure students and teachers making an active and continued effort to shame and even ruin you, you will be part of the effort that brings sanity back to campus. EDIT: Will answer more thoroughly now that I am off my phone. First and foremost, grab a recor…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 02:07 PM
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I record consent on my Olympus, and let my partner and hook-ups know why I am doing it. If they don't like the idea of my protecting myself, I leave immediately. Sex is not that hard to find when you get a handle of the communication style, so there is no excuse to put off due diligence.
/r/MensRights08/09/15 02:30 PM
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While that particular implementation sounds expensive for mass production, I really like your idea of inducing a moment of clarity. We'll explore that further.
/r/MensRights08/09/15 02:26 PM
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Hey Jonathan, Sage here. Later in the project you may wish to consider using specialized pages modeled using D3.js to set up a beautiful presentation of your compiled data. I can assist in those implementations when needed.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 04:38 PM
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Stop molesting kids, PLEASE?
/r/MensRights21/04/15 04:04 PM
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Ok, then design it to say "yes."
/r/MensRights16/04/15 04:22 PM
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If someone posts a legitimate issue affecting men and boys, a mention of feminism does not necessarily risk mission creep. I can just imagine someone sharing their experience with abusive feminists and someone is all "oh, gee, that's harsh, but you wrote in the wrong box. I deleted your post because you need to write where people are allowed to give a shit." Quick example: l am a victim of false accusations of murder or harassment by a feminist group. Apparently I cannot post about it in your su…
/r/MensRights15/04/15 01:24 PM
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It's one thing to create a sub because you have a new topic, but it is another thing to create a sub because you want more control over how the topic is discussed. Enjoy yourselves, and I hope you make change, but the mentality I am detecting appears to be more interested in the image of pragmatism than actual pragmatism.
/r/MensRights15/04/15 10:03 AM
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Is anyone here familiar with university policies about "Sexual misconduct" I could really need some help! In general, Universities have internal disciplinary proceedings that enforce the local Student Code of Conduct. With every code comes definitions, and a different set of people who interpret the code. Unsurprisingly, "sexual misconduct" takes on different practical meanings depending on the campus and the tribunal/behavioral response team/laywer deciding on the standing of an accused student…
/r/MensRights15/04/15 09:31 AM
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What is a SIC? See wee-kee-pee-dee-uh Where is the database? ReferenceUSA. You need a subscription. Libraries have them. Go to a library and visit the site.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 10:39 PM
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Hi, I'm typing on my phone, so forgive the lack of links. PM me or reply if you need more info, and I will get back with you once I am in front of my PC. I actually just went through 142 records in Georgia and only found one shelter that serves men in Blue Ridge. It really is a desert out here. Your best source is a database of businesses. Go to your local library, which should have a subscription to ReferenceUSA. Search for businesses with SIC prefix 80, 8322 or 8399. You can also try NAICS cod…
/r/MensRights14/04/15 03:55 PM
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As of now, I am one person, getting that first person is going to be very hard. I know. I went for several months without a single dedicated member on my end when I was getting started. Keep talking to people, and give it time. I'm not entirely sure how to introduce myself to the cops. "Hey, I'm starting a group on campus that will likely cause some degree of hell to break loose. Nice to meet you." That's pretty much what I did when I set up the Male Students in Peril conference. I emailed a cap…
/r/MensRights12/04/15 07:32 AM
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Thank you so much! :D
/r/MensRights10/04/15 08:04 PM
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Hey, thank you for your support! You can donate by going to zenmen.org, clicking "Support Us" and then clicking "Donate." We are doing our summer fundraiser now, so every bit helps. :)
/r/MensRights10/04/15 07:38 PM
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This is one of those times where you need to know your audience. I can't answer that question well without some more context, so let's find that context. I took the liberty of visiting the Mizzou factbook and Student Life sources and came up with some info that can help you tailor your message. If you don't mind, I'm going to speak in the first person so you can get an idea of my thought process if I was in your position. I'm not saying you have to do as I do, I'm just trying to give you an idea…
/r/MensRights10/04/15 05:22 PM
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he's stated some time ago that he would like to see more people like himself forming groups in their own respective colleges. Oh, very much so. I'm even willing to donate money. My organization Zen Men LLC has a budding affiliation program for students that want to start their own Zen Men chapters. Students starting no-bullshit, fact-based men's rights spaces on campus have my support. Period.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 04:28 PM
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The big argument I hear always boils down to men's problems being less important than those of other demographics. Often people frame it in a "historical context" of male privilege and power, but the irony is that this actually imposes a modern interpretation that unfairly restricts historical context. That's a whole discussion in itself, and it is not actually relevant to the point that there exist men who are not privileged and are currently hurting. We have to face the question of if we'd rat…
/r/MensRights10/04/15 03:29 AM
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Hi TomwaIvory, it's Sage. I got your email and would be delighted to offer help wherever possible. Since your proposal is still young and notably open-ended, there are limits to what I can contribute without making presumptions. Please by all means ask questions under my comment and I'll respond. [Men's Rights Mizzou will] serve as a place for people to come together and discuss issues affecting boys and men throughout the world and how such issues might be resolved. The obvious benefit to a dis…
/r/MensRights09/04/15 03:54 AM
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Sure, we'll be ready for that.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 04:56 PM
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I appreciate the kindness, thank you. :)
/r/MensRights20/03/15 04:56 PM
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That's a good one, thank you!
/r/MensRights20/03/15 04:55 PM
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This is Victor Zen. I cannot share private information, but can hopefully bring some perspective given what is publicly observable. First, AVfM is not just a website, it is an organization. It is now two LLCs, both of which have operations with their own set of responsibilities. There's an editorial team, a radio show, an upcoming book publishing house, translators, artists, videographers, and indeed an entire community of media. Needless to say, maintaining the beast costs money. And to say "it…
/r/MensRights08/03/15 03:36 PM
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Hi Hopeless_Dabbler, this is Sage Gerard. I'm the Collegiate Activism Director of A Voice for Men and the founder of Zen Men (formerly KSU Men), a college men's rights group. I want to commend you for taking on this project, and I encourage you to do so with every fiber of my being. But do note that there are many challenges, and it helps to be informed about the details for equally many reasons. Zen Men has managed to do a lot, but I won't reiterate what you can look up and read. All I will say…
/r/MensRights21/12/14 03:52 AM
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Because a kid in juvenile detention has the same motives and prospects as a spoiled housewife with two and a half kids. Quit thinking with your ass cheeks.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 01:39 AM
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Zen here. Not everything can be condensed without sacrificing important details. Besides, one can either read the original report, which will take hours, or watch a video that summarizes it. If you feel you can do better, then I will be happy to learn from your example.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 06:01 AM
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