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warpcowboy/r/seduction18/09/11 04:09 AM
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If you saw this conversation in person, you wouldn't think anything of it. It would look like a budding friendship. If you see a guy and a girl get along at a club, you wouldn't think anything of it. They're getting along and vibing. This subreddit is an introspection into the subtle dynamics that make up the underpinnings of the elusive obvious. It's a mistake to discount complex things just because discussing them takes the romance out of it.
/r/seduction05/04/12 07:09 PM
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I'd wager that the group isn't aloof. Alpha Joe isn't really flying under the radar. He's being aggressive, shining a spotlight, and in this situation the other guys may become a passive audience as he grills you hoping that they don't fall victim themselves. They only play aloof in the same way you avert eye contact in class so the teacher doesn't call on you. This type of person is in the business of trading affability for social standing. And they are insufferable, especially since if they ar…
/r/seduction05/04/12 06:52 PM
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Can you explain? "Is that mp3 player good?" Not really sure what that's asking in the real world. Is her iPod good?
/r/seduction05/04/12 06:20 PM
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I didn't mean to literally suggest you thought it was some satanic ritual, I was just trying to point out that ill feelings towards sex with strangers is either a religious, cultural, and/or moral taboo. But you need to realize that's all it is and not judge people for transcending it if they choose to. You patronized every man and woman out there who doesn't share your view on "sex with strangers", which is arbitrary moralism. When does it become okay to have sex? After how many hours/days/week…
/r/seduction25/03/12 07:51 PM
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I'm 23 and have had plenty of "0-60s" (really?) so far in university. Believe it or not, sex isn't the Devil's Dance like they teach in bible study where women are beguiled as we men weasel our willies into their impregnable vaginas that otherwise don't unlock until some arbitrary number of dates have passed that TV shows and highschool discourse have deemed appropriate. Sex also isn't some land grab where men siphon power from women like in Highlander where Duncan beheads other immortals and ab…
/r/seduction25/03/12 10:15 AM
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I could tell because the rendered html starts on line 350. Honestly, I've never used Drupal in my life. Why's that lil guy pop up? http://i.imgur.com/VLHHk.png
/r/seduction24/02/12 04:04 AM
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I feel you. My brain also has trouble doing basic things like recalling what I did that day if I'm looking someone in the eyes. I've developed a reflex where I look up instead of down when I'm thinking mid-conversation. Simply looking up vs looking down makes a world of difference in how I read people, so I internalized it. I've just noticed that people that look down look like baby-back bitches. Up-lookers look like they are scanning the heavens for wisdom, comparably.
/r/seduction19/02/12 03:50 AM
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The dead will rise. I literally used that word to refer to the fact that I have a girlfriend at the moment. Must be a sign.
/r/seduction19/02/12 03:39 AM
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Mystery is the epitome of overanalysis and overengineering arbitrary rules/concepts just to fill some book chapters. 7 hours til sex? wat. Long, wrenching "DHV" stories? snooooze. A1 A2 A3 C1 C2 C4 R1 R2 R3 L S N? What the fuck. I think there's far more practical shit to read than someone that makes you track variables. Instead, look at what guys with confident personas do in movies or in interviews. Strong eye contact, but not unconditionally constant. It breaks naturally from time to time. I t…
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:02 AM
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--> Speed dick
/r/seduction18/02/12 10:03 AM
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But it's easy to invalidate everything so you can mire in your little sad-pit of inaction as you remind yourself that nothing works and it's all a conspiracy to fool you with false hope.
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:34 AM
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That's pretty cool that you were there to see the context and delivery of these, though. Could you give us some background circumstance for each one and how she responded?
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:33 AM
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Woosh.
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:31 AM
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Ahh, so be Norm Macdonald.
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:24 AM
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Whenever I read "something, anything", I hear it in Wygant's voice from that excerpt from Mansformation. He really hammered the point home.
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:23 AM
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I'm not disagreeing. You're actually just wrong, and that's not something I say on here. But your limiting belief is blinding me. I used to fret over openers in my first few years of college. Then I realized that openers are sorta like when someone introduces themselves, tells you their name, but it goes right out your ear. It's why, in Simply Pickup, the guys say whatever the fuck, "short change" themselves, and immediately blow into "Hey, I'm Kong" and have normal discourse after pulling a use…
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:16 AM
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My process happened in this order: Success, fail, laid, fail, Don't give a shit, fail success fail laid fail fail Just do it Become happy with myself I needed a bunch of referential experience to internalize before I could start to see what kind of person I was and what I really wanted.
/r/seduction13/02/12 10:23 PM
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You can also play those dancing games on the Xbox 360 Kinect. I've never touched it before, but the commercials make it seem like they'd help give you a raging clue about dancing if you don't have one.
/r/seduction13/02/12 10:17 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty much the gist of it. As a guy in a society where the onus to approach is on us, we can't pretend like we can predict the outcome or how she'll react until we try. One girl I'll approach in Starbucks might shut me down. The next might blossom into something else. All I can do is try. Take that idea to the club scene and you find out that everyone's there to mingle. But at different rates. Chemistry isn't static, alcohol is big. Girls have walked up drunkenly and kissed me on 6…
/r/seduction09/02/12 12:16 AM
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Well, I'm familiar with Tyler's shtick. I've listened to Blueprint Decoded and this is pretty much what his entire message is on the demonstrative level. The same guy that says one way to "get in state" is making a bunch of loud animal noises and uncomfortably expanding the area you take up. Right there in the club. I think the one thing AFCs need to understand is that rocking the boat on comfort level is how you peel away the self-limiting shell. Tyler's not a very easy guy to dig in a few minu…
/r/seduction09/02/12 12:01 AM
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In the first 3 minutes, he's just demonstrating the process for entering state, frontloading fizzle-outs off the bat before he has time to do the beer-to-the-chest clutch. Then he enters the numbers game of trying to escalate with girls. Sounds about right when it comes to taking girls home from downtown. Fail fast so that you lose the self-conscious cruft, then start engaging girls.
/r/seduction08/02/12 09:14 PM
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I don't know exactly what you're referring to, but it's just a numbers game.
/r/seduction08/02/12 09:09 PM
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I think that's why he resonates so well with a lot of us. He has to warm up his own buying temperature like anyone else. He's no insta-suave. He has to build state.
/r/seduction08/02/12 09:05 PM
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Took me a while to accept his personality in BP Decoded. The 20-second out of the blue spurts of maniacal laughter to himself. But he has some really solid stuff to say and I've grown immune to his over the top ways. Besides, I've tried to outgrow judging people by their personalities. I've only listened to BP Decoded off and on, but I think Tyler has done a good job steering guys towards the concept of just vibing with girls and hooking up because your mutually enjoying eachother. I'm a guy so …
/r/seduction08/02/12 09:02 PM
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I downvoted her for addressing the entire community in response to one comment she takes issue with as if Seddit is one monolithic hivemind that fawns over Mystery and the idea of checking your email and playing Farmville as an ignition switch for getting ass when you're in bed with a girl.
/r/seduction22/01/12 01:34 AM
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Well that was over-hyped. That wasn't very scandalous like you guys made it out to be. He basically just repeats a few of his stories on air and the hosts wait until either his headphones are muted or after he's left to talk shit and call him a liar. Nothing he said on air condemned him any more than the believability of his book going into that interview. I was hoping to see him caught in a stammer but not even that happened.
/r/seduction22/01/12 01:22 AM
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Damn, I wanted to partake but wasn't aware that this was the AMA. The SOPA downtown is also imminent.
/r/seduction18/01/12 09:50 AM
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Even if you were to make the ignorant assertion that Sedditors just want sex, that's a mutually entertaining endeavor. One person isn't floating the bill. It's orthogonal.
/r/seduction03/12/11 02:35 PM
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haha, beyond*
/r/seduction30/11/11 07:06 AM
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The only people I imagine dwelling on number collection are those that don't get them. I think you learn pretty quickly that number exchange is easy and only the start of challenge. Acting on a number is the hard part. Reestablishing that connection from last weekend is the hard part. I'd wager that anyone looking at number collection as an accomplishment will change their mind if they'd start following up on those numbers. I don't really see this as Game 2.0. Number collection (or even just Fac…
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:01 AM
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Haha, what made you even check? In other news, I've been hooking up with girls on one of those slutty alternative social networks. Running a girl's picture through TinEye.com has become habitual if she's even decently hot.
/r/seduction30/11/11 03:53 AM
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...they pay rent tho...
/r/seduction19/11/11 12:07 AM
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Would this shirt help if guys wore it?
/r/seduction18/11/11 08:21 PM
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Game is required. Not sure what you think game is, but it's pretty much just our jargon for interacting successfully and playfully with women while escalating beyond "just friends". It doesn't preclude "being fun", "being awesome", and "being a good time". Those are the tenants of what we call "game".
/r/seduction18/11/11 08:15 PM
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When a guy is buried under a network of self-limiting beliefs that he's perpetuated for over 20 years that severely limit his life (failure with women being only one symptom), what do you propose? Success with women is just the most pervasively-sold marker for masculinity by our society, so most guys identify with it. Most guys can deal with their lack of social skills, lack of confidence, and self-limiting belief abundance, but the encroachment of loneliness is devastating. What makes PUA work …
/r/seduction18/11/11 07:49 PM
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MDMA, the hug drug. Already feeling like you're bonded with those around you provides a very interesting experience. Or most other entactogens. Its most popular analogues (methylone and mephedrone) were just illegalized in early October, but you can still find em on the cheap from stockpilers.
/r/seduction18/11/11 09:39 AM
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Since you might have asked this because he's friends with a lot of girls, I'll offer another perspective. I'm a triplet with two sisters and they fucked me over. From as far back as I can remember to probably 10th grade, I had to listen to them make fun of guys that would approach them. I'd hear it on the school bus home, at dinner, and any time they were idly gossiping. Any guy that came up and said one of them was cute got poker-faced and then shunned when my sisters could meet up to share the…
/r/seduction18/11/11 07:24 AM
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"running social circle game" is just our jargon for what you described. you're coming in with some offensively large blinders on. you need to stop taking your life experience for granted and grasp the cold, harsh reality that there's a significant population of men that are trying to evolve into beings that can meet and attract women. it might look absurd from the outside, but it's absurd that the inherent evolutionary ability to meet and attract mates is often socialized out of the modern weste…
/r/seduction18/11/11 07:07 AM
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I think you're interpreting the gesture too explicitly as though I was proposing a line in a script. "So, tell me about yourself" discourse is always tacky, but that's not really how good conversations unfold. Yet, they somehow manage to cover ground without explicit questions. Hopefully you're too busy vibing and playing grabass on a first date to kill buzz with deep personal conversation at a club. In the meantime, cleverly unearthing what someone wants out of life is the most valuable thing I…
/r/seduction16/11/11 11:14 PM
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What do you want to do after school? Variations of this life-plans probe are my bread and butter. So much compatibility (or lack thereof) can be found in her answer. It goes so many places from a mutual disdain for corporate employment to plans for travel to lifestyle idealism. It answers a lot of questions that most people end up explicitly asking interview-style. An inquiry into anyone's future probably reveals more about a person than anything else you can ask.
/r/seduction15/11/11 07:38 AM
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The "worst" blowouts are just when nothing happens, usually just due to vibe famine. Or just anti-social behavior on her side. Cold rejection is pretty rare, but I've come to revel in it, especially the outrageously cold blowouts. I met and escalated a girl to making out and playing flirty grabass over the course of an hour downtown. We went to a few bars together and were having a good time. When the bars close, I hail a cab. As I'm opening the back door for her, she opens the shotgun door and …
/r/seduction15/11/11 07:25 AM
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I think the community is pretty good at establishing the implications of kino beyond an image of just being "touchy touchy" whenever I've seen its definition rear its head. It takes a defeatist bias to immediately interpret kino to just be a manipulative tactic to woo helpless women.
/r/seduction14/11/11 07:39 AM
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No, dude. Generic compliments are really chumpy. If you want to give her a vapid display of interest, there are better ways. Like flirting with her. And not running away.
/r/seduction04/11/11 08:40 PM
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That's the nice thing about wearing a watch. You can check the time without whipping out your phone looking like a weak baby back bitch. I was waiting for the elevator in my apartment the other day and three people were already waiting when I got there. All were clutching their smartphones, moving widgets around or whatever, evading eye contact, and generally just looking very soft. It all looked so petty that I asked "Just catching up on yall's text messaging?" Got some meek 'heh hehs' as I ens…
/r/seduction02/11/11 10:45 PM
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r/seduction doesn't endorse the evasion of girls that you've sufficiently attracted and are interested in you. if you secure a girl last night, you escalate to a meet-up while the pussy is hot. text game is used to stoke the fire when a meet-up isn't imminent. but the end goal is to secure a meet-up. it's the definitive step in what we're trying to achieve, here.
/r/seduction02/11/11 10:35 PM
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Not true. Alcohol immediately binds to serotonin receptors (induces euphoria) and acetylcholine receptors (induces the same stimulation as nicotine). It depresses the CNS at a slower pace because even though it binds to the GABA receptor (like sleeping pills) which inhibits neuron activation, inhibitory effects have to first overcome the excitation effects of the flood of neurotransmitters from alcohol's immediate pharmacology. That's why you can take some shots to "wake up" if you don't feel li…
/r/seduction02/11/11 09:52 AM
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You don't escalate verbally. You escalate physically.
/r/seduction31/10/11 10:03 PM
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I put her in a fireman's carry and sprint past the vagrants.
/r/seduction31/10/11 09:56 PM
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If you have Reddit Enhancement Suite, tag ge99 so you can recognize him around Seddit. Always real insightful stuff.
/r/seduction31/10/11 05:47 AM
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First of all, Modern Savage is suspiciously pro-fapstinence. To the point where he seems to preach the gospel when he posts here about it. As if he has something to gain from the united blue balls of Seddit, not just a guy sharing an experience. Also, the testosterone serum peak is after a week and then abruptly gets downregulated. What are you going to do, try to time the day you quit fapping to line up with an event 7 days away just to get that 150% peak before it goes away? Finally, the studi…
/r/seduction30/10/11 11:22 PM
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I had surgery in my groin and erections were painful. Couldn't fap for four weeks but then waited two more weeks just to put the assertion up to the test. Felt zero change in my overall outlook just from abstaining. I didn't get a sensation that I was ready to burst, either. What gives me that sensation is when I'm getting blue-balled on the dance floor, and that happens whether I haven't fapped for 6 weeks or 6 hours. Just is a pointless way to torment yourself. However, what abstaining can do …
/r/seduction30/10/11 11:11 PM
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Nice thing about Facebook as a supplement is that it's so effortless to maintain contact. Doesn't even need to be explicit messages, just a casual exchange of photo comments, status comments, and wall posts. It's enough to keep you both on eachother's radar after email or texting might fizzle out.
/r/seduction30/10/11 10:45 PM
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I'm actually with him. Could you give us an example of some dialogue where he's "challenging her to not knowing you"? I guess some people reading your FR don't quite understand what that means.
/r/seduction28/10/11 05:49 AM
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Just remember "sorostitutes".
/r/seduction27/10/11 08:08 PM
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He's asking for you to explain what "challenged her to prove that she knew you" even means.
/r/seduction27/10/11 08:05 PM
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Currently on amphetamine. Yeah, I didn't even answer the question. I'm probably more coy than our more prolific Sedditors would like, but I go for breadth of many girls rather than depth with one girl. Unless she particularly attracted me beyond her beauty. But social abundance and a female social circle is more important to me in the long run. When I meet new girls, I generally do one of these (btw I'm a student at a big uni): Nothing. Nothing more than the idle default of just fucking around o…
/r/seduction24/10/11 11:35 AM
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"Thanks!". "Thanks for plucking me from my life of social destitution!". No need to say thanks. Maybe I missed what you are saying thanks about, but she didn't give anything to you. You both had mutual fun. I like getting a girl's Facebook because it's useful in many ways. Even though the phone should be your avenue of conversation, Facebook is really easy to flirt with. It's also where I can invite girls to Facebook events and then use the phone to tell them about what I invited them to. My Fac…
/r/seduction24/10/11 02:45 AM
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MDMA ingested by a girl is probably the best wingman a guy can have.
/r/seduction24/10/11 01:41 AM
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I enjoyed that thoroughly. Must write more FRs!
/r/seduction23/10/11 07:24 AM
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Dude, my sense of humor is offbeat. I could see myself saying something like that. "Yeah, girls tell me the same about my chest hair". I can picture girls I know that would take the opportunity to put their hand down my unbutton collar. And I can pictures girls that would go "wat". You're doing it live. What you really want to avoid is just being too goofy with too much frequency. See, you want the girl to laugh. If she's not laughing, then you either want to accept that she doesn't share your s…
/r/seduction22/10/11 09:50 PM
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The venue/person is irrelevant. You can pretend nobody on Seddit goes to clubs and it's all still applicable. I'm a 23-year-old college student and clubs just aren't me. Never were. I meet girls during the day and through my social network. Then I go downtown with them and use the venue to escalate with them. Attracting girls is all about vibing with them. Kino (physical touching) is necessary for physical escalation and it gets them used to your touch. It establishes that touching isn't a fucki…
/r/seduction22/10/11 09:23 PM
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Check out the sidebar. Kino is physical touching. You physically escalate to build attraction, demonstrate interest, establish that you're a physical being, and get her used to your touch. Try kissing a girl without having touched her yet.
/r/seduction22/10/11 09:09 PM
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Going out by yourself is like the warmup where you swing with three bats so that when you get up to the plate, you totally crank that one bat like it's nothin. Going out with friends is easy. It's a security blanket and a crutch. Going out alone is isolated immersion. It's the most rapid way to gain experience. It's either do or wimp out and go home.
/r/seduction22/10/11 09:06 PM
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Stimulants are much more conducive to social situations. With the added bonus of remembering everything.
/r/seduction13/10/11 10:25 AM
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Idly consuming seduction material became about as idly routine as not putting it to use.
/r/seduction11/10/11 05:58 AM
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I assert that the Sedditor archetype isn't a guy that's already immersed in social situations, approaching girls, and is merely stuck in a plateau/rut and can't figure out what to do next. Perhaps some guys here can identify with me and just need to be reminded that all the Seddit reading in the world isn't a surrogate for approaching girls. Finally, David D is still one of my favorite content producers to recommend. I like his focus on attraction not being a choice and inner game which I believ…
/r/seduction11/10/11 01:52 AM
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Especially a chemical that's literally entactogenic and elevates social bonding.
/r/seduction10/10/11 06:17 PM
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I started listening to David DeAngelo when I was 15 or something. Got into this stuff. Made zero progress despite consuming vast amounts of material. I felt like I could answer any question on the subject you threw at me. I could even give advice to FRs based on my accumulated exposure. Still, zero progress. Not a fucking ounce of progress was made until I said fuck it and started talking to girls. I would've made more lifelong progress had I never found the community/material and just immersed …
/r/seduction10/10/11 06:07 PM
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Furthermore, learn to embrace the freeze up. There's a lot of humanity in it that's often best expressed by just chilling there for a fat second without feeling some looming obligation to keep a conversation rolling. At least rationalizing it like that helps me sleep at night.
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:52 PM
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Or inaction.
/r/seduction05/10/11 06:52 PM
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When you graduate, you'll realize in retrospect how campus is the quintessential romping grounds for approachable girls. Don't wait that long to appreciate it. You can sit next to fucking any girl on campus under the passive pretense that you're just another student whipping out his netbook to check Blackboard, then casually make a comment to her about something. It's how I started when I needed to prove to myself how approachable most humans are and how readily random girls are willing to talk …
/r/seduction05/10/11 06:58 AM
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The title reminds me of a recent submission in r/pics. On Being Silent, Mysterious, and Alone How I think I look: *Mysterious, cloaked ranger sitting alone in the corner of a tavern* How I actually look: *Socially inept neckbeard*
/r/seduction05/10/11 06:19 AM
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Consider this definition of discipline: Activity or experience that provides mental or physical training In other words, the quote is saying that encounters with girls improves you. You learn from it. Even if an encounter goes to shit, you reap experience. It's training. Discipline. On the other hand, it's easy for us to convince ourselves not to approach, not to get out there, to avoid a situation. We justify this shit to ourselves all the time. But the only thing we reap from those decisions i…
/r/seduction05/10/11 06:00 AM
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Small-talk texting is meaningless to everyone. I'll never advocate that. Texting is low-stakes, low-hanging social fruit for everyone, which is why it's so popular. Everyone's insecure. If texting is your primary channel of communication, you're fucking up.
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:45 AM
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Then MDMA.
/r/seduction28/09/11 12:34 PM
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You're problem is that you're trying to make it into a binary. It's not. Progress with a girl is a continuum. Just because you text her doesn't mean you're regressing. Maybe calling her at a certain moment would've progressed you faster than had you texted. Maybe she's more receptive to texts in most situations. Who cares? There are a lot of reasons to call a girl rather than text her. And texting is often convenient and has its place. But trying to disqualify text game or any other tool in the …
/r/seduction28/09/11 12:30 PM
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The link aint dead: http://cdn.pickuppodcast.com/StockBanter_Cheatsheet(bonus).pdf
/r/seduction28/09/11 12:16 PM
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Just freeze her out. You admit that you're the initiator. If she's not going to contact you within two weeks, then it's pretty dead. But you'll have been busy connecting with new girls, so no tough feelings.
/r/seduction28/09/11 10:47 AM
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These play-by-plays are incredible to read through when you're still learning this stuff and need to find state. I used to print scenarios out and keep them in my backpack. Even if they didn't answer a specific contextual question I was having, they'd get me into the mentality where the correct action would become obvious.
/r/seduction28/09/11 10:40 AM
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Winding the watch is so menial it's hilarious.
/r/seduction23/09/11 10:41 PM
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hmm...
/r/seduction22/09/11 11:14 PM
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Given that you can hold conversation with your brother and friends, it's just nerves. Realize that. I was the same way. Anxiousness, even when I could hardly detect it at times, somehow stops fucking neurons from firing or something. I got over it in university by: Having female friends. It's huge. Especially if they're the type of girl you like. Every guy needs female friends. Don't have anything to say in mind while I'm walking up to a girl? Fuck it. Doing it live. Hope she's interesting! Gene…
/r/seduction21/09/11 08:25 AM
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Tyler Durden: "While I'm walking up to a girl, if I can't think of anything to say on the way, I just go 'Well, hope she does'."
/r/seduction21/09/11 08:22 AM
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My family never hugged or kissed. Never said "I love you". Zero affection. A string of highschool girlfriends helped make me into an affectionate guy, so I assumed that more and more experience would make me into the uninhibited sex god I pined to be. Well, I'm 23 and have slept with a lot of women, but I still don't get turned on by girls bluntly asking me to fuck them if there isn't some level of connection already. I chalked it up to It's Just How I Am. Talking dirty also feels silly to me de…
/r/seduction21/09/11 08:11 AM
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You're going in the right direction. But you need to cut the ginger shit out. Girls might share shit with you because you're already on friend terms with them (having nothing to do with your appearance) and they feel comfortable joking around with you about it, but it's never going to be the crux of your interactions with women. Just make sure you aren't growing a gingerfro. Given that most of your question was spent in self-pity, there's not much else to say. But the easiest way to demonstrate …
/r/seduction21/09/11 07:56 AM
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I disagree. I think inner game is only the product of accumulated experiences and references. Every approach you make changes your inner game. Every positive experience gives you a reference point you can generate confidence from via "Hey, I've done this before". Experience is the crux of inner game. Then again, you'd probably agree with this.
/r/seduction21/09/11 07:43 AM
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You're in highschool, iirc. Reading material without approaching girls is probably the most counter-productive think I've done. I stumbled upon David DeAngelo mp3s when I was 15 or 16 and it wouldn't be til I turned 21 that I really did anything with it. I'm now 23. The only difference? At 21, I said fuck it and actually started approaching girls. Five years of listening to David DeAngelo and random material on my one-hour night jogs didn't do shit if I wasn't going to actually talk to girls. Im…
/r/seduction21/09/11 07:39 AM
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it's good. in general, i like saving lines like yours for the face-to-face. it's better in just about every way, and it can lead to conversation/banter/roleplay that texting simply stifles. too many long texts or a two-page text joke (oh god, anything but two pages) can come across as tryhard. mostly because i know how witty i think i am when i twinkle-thumb out a long text that i read aloud to myself a few times, cackling and high-fiving myself. and i imagine that she did the same thing. i'm wi…
/r/seduction21/09/11 07:33 AM
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Took me a retardedly long time to accept that girls are in bars/clubs to meet you, not to reject every genuine male approach (that's how I played out every bar approach in my head when I was 20). Then, I found that walking up with a "what's up?" to two girls leaning against a table is all you need, and that girls are happy to help out with the conversation. Reading material without ever approaching girls might be the most counter-productive thing a young man can do.
/r/seduction21/09/11 07:07 AM
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bravo. i used to think like that. then i met a girl while we were both rolling at a sketchy music event that i almost ditched because it "wasn't for me". turns out it was both of our first time rolling and we lost our friends in the mix. she ends up being one of the most like-minded girls i've met in my life. congruent with every quirk in my human fabric. it didn't last because she went off to teach english in thailand, and we still keep in touch as friends, but meeting such a compatible girl in…
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:58 AM
3

nice, met my girlfriend by doing the infamous drunken "i like you" at 4am.
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:38 AM
1

dude, you've gotta neg him a few times to disarm him first.
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:36 AM
2

haha, went to an ab class at the campus gym the other month. we had to grab a medicine ball and a weighted pole from the equipment closet. seeing all the girls grab the lightest ball, i assume i can handle the heavier medicine ball and totem, being a fit-looking male. had this bad ass strut as i noticed i had the heaviest gear in the room (was the only male). big mistake. naturally, the only available mat left was the one directly in front of the instructor and the entire class. i could hardly e…
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:32 AM
3

haha, i can't even go to strip clubs slightly sober. we were rolling really hard. mdma makes you really empathetic and loving which is somewhat responsible for his big mistake.
/r/seduction18/09/11 11:24 PM
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i took my friend to his first strip club last sunday after ingesting a bunch of mdma. i was doing my thing and lost track of him. 6 hours later, he starts pulling me out of the club. looked miserable, defeated, and i think i spotted a tear. apparently, he ended up chatting with a stripper the entire 6 hours. 2% lap dance, 98% juuust chattin'. totally thought he was connecting with this girl. and he somehow managed to spend $300 because he was making her miss stage time. so, at the end, he pulls …
/r/seduction18/09/11 11:12 PM
2

It's a bicep
/r/seduction10/09/11 03:19 AM
8

I learned this the hard way. An entire summer of freshman year in university was spent texting a girl. We hit it so off in texts, man. Very textual. Towards the end of summer, we meet up. The awkwardness of having a textual relationship for two months only to feel like you don't know the person sitting next to you is hard to describe. After a few more similar experiences, I've decided that texting should be used primarily to set up face-to-face time, but ultimately used as an escalator, not as m…
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:35 PM
10

Never delete Facebook friends like that. It's fucking petty and makes it crystal clear that you were affected like a little bitch. On another note, I always keep Facebook friends. It's no skin off your nose, and there's always a chance that connection can pay off some time in the future.
/r/seduction07/09/11 08:52 AM
11

I don't really understand the point of your comment.
/r/seduction03/09/11 06:39 AM
1

Stepping in to offer my Rails experience.
/r/seduction03/09/11 06:31 AM
1

I think it was pretty clear that he was talking about a guy that wanted to get intimate, but hemmed and hawed at the opportunity and didn't take action. Look at his first two qualifiers: Being too available Investing too much This isn't a guy who's nonchalantly moving on his own terms. The article is talking about a guy that wants a girl but is being tentative and safe.
/r/seduction02/09/11 04:32 AM
2

It's up to the woman to suspect that you're gaming her, and if she chooses to dwell on the possibility, it should all be devised in her head. She's never going to end it with you because she suspects you're a player. So, I think you're right in your suspicion that you planted the player seed and then she ran with it. Explicitly talking about your success with women is rarely a DHV. But your I-buy-two-tickets comment was really benign, anyway. Just keep things going on schedule. Unless you're lea…
/r/seduction28/08/11 08:35 PM
2

love reading your FRs. such a fun, easy narrative.
/r/seduction28/08/11 07:20 PM
7

We did this to each other in junior high. Could have just had the video content in the beginning and then trailed it with the slow over-analysis.
/r/seduction18/08/11 08:16 PM
2

I didn't even use my underwhelming grasp of French when I studied near Versailles. I initially tried, but fellow youth (especially girls) were more interested in speaking/practicing English with me. Girls tend to be easier when you're abroad due to the stranger in a strange land phenomenon no matter where you are. You tend to be more adventurous and take more social risks. Also, international students are already pre-qualified to be cool, so you're mingling with a cool crowd that's generally ope…
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:37 PM
1

A cool, foreign male with personality is always exotic. Only thing I can say felt different about approaching girls in Portugal, Barcelona, and France compared to other countries is that there's a bit more of a critic's sentiment when it comes to America. And, unless you have a persecution complex, it just translates into fun conversations about misconceptions and more serious conversations about the US government. The latter ending up in mutual agreement, anyways.
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:17 PM
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I'd say 18 is more reasonable. It's the lower bound of "college student", and nobody can give you shit for fucking college students.
/r/seduction05/08/11 02:35 AM
4

yeah, you can't both link to something as a submission and write something.
/r/seduction01/08/11 01:55 PM
3

Adderall does the opposite of making your dick into a battle axe. What's really happening is that it's increasing your libido which may or may not overcome the onset of speed dick.
/r/seduction28/07/11 01:03 AM
8

When you're picking out cucumbers/pomegranates/watermelons, hold it up to your ear and give the nearest female a long, dead gaze.
/r/seduction24/07/11 09:54 PM
1

I disagree. I grew up in an all-guys/all-girls boarding school situation, went to a school with 60% girls, then wound up at a large 50/50 public university. Gender ratio doesn't matter like you think it does because mate-finding economics don't work on a 1-for-1 basis. Just as many guys are single and AFC in a 50/50 split as they are in his 30/70 split. From my experience, coupling is almost entirely on the proportion of males that approach and look for mates. That definitely is not the default …
/r/seduction22/07/11 10:00 PM
8

Beyond your fixation on "getting a girl", living at home will be your biggest dealbreaker.
/r/seduction22/07/11 03:22 AM
1

If you've been grinding on a girl for a while and she's grinding on you, you certainly do escalate. Else, I'm not sure what you're even doing. Although using your hands in some way is probably a good segue. Kissing her shoulder from behind is less intimate and more accessible on the dancefloor than a straight-up kiss, for sure. We're talking about grinding on a college club dancefloor, not doing the polka with Aunt Rosanne.
/r/seduction18/07/11 08:07 AM
3

Generally, listen to other people when they call you arrogant. They might be right. In my case, they were. In highschool, I found out about the seduction community and began conflating arrogance with confidence. Originally blew off my friends' assertions that I was being too cocky. Wouldn't really come to realize that they were right until a while later. On the other hand, they might be genuine wet blankets that will just slow you down. People calling you arrogant when viewing you in social situ…
/r/seduction18/07/11 07:57 AM
2

These two guys already nailed it, but it sounds like she could even have been playing some sort of "Well, I'm not going to text him if he doesn't text me -- Hmph!" mental game with herself while you were just hanging out all week without even really thinking about her. You did things on your terms and she couldn't handle it. She did your homework for you.
/r/seduction18/07/11 07:48 AM
1

Peacocking is just being congruent with a unique appearance. You see peacocking happening every day around you, but I think most people imagine peacocking to involve a furry tophat + zero social prowess.
/r/seduction18/07/11 07:24 AM
1

Dunno, dudebro. I think you're the one reading into it. I thought the submission was entertaining. Seddit doesn't take offense to it because this subreddit isn't a faction, just a bunch of people looking for some better outlook.
/r/seduction18/07/11 07:21 AM
3

Seduction isn't an institutionalized establishment with a weekly liturgy. Someone spreading "Warpig" over there and "Bitch Shield" over here will contradict someone else, but it's immaterial -- doesn't matter.
/r/seduction18/07/11 07:19 AM
17

Her: "We're not having sex tonight." You: "We'll see. I'm stronger than you." Am I doing it right?
/r/seduction15/07/11 09:40 PM
3

"Hey, did you guys see that fight going on outside?"
/r/seduction12/07/11 12:40 AM
1

Besides, if you think this has an affect on the elusive *deep voice* "seduction community", then you might want to check out VH1's Pickup Artist reality show starring Mystery. The bottom line is: who gives a shit if some glamorous, false rendition of the community gains popular traction. Worst case scenario is that people think the seduction community plays out like Tom Cruise's Respect the Cock scene in Magnolia, but that affects nobody. I think we all share a disdain for tacky seduction gimmic…
/r/seduction12/07/11 12:39 AM
1

So many quality insights that I'd actually like to see this on the sidebar.
/r/seduction10/07/11 07:55 AM
1

at Motel Beta.
/r/seduction30/06/11 03:50 AM
1

This question is like "What do I do if a girl catches me looking at her".
/r/seduction31/05/11 10:24 AM
7

And a little amphetamine.
/r/seduction30/05/11 01:43 AM
2

this is a good response if she replies hours later, but i don't like the idea of chasing an unreplied text with this. ideally, you'd make new plans. but why would you substantiate them to her?
/r/seduction27/05/11 11:00 PM
5

pretty sure he's bringing everyone, too.
/r/seduction27/05/11 07:06 AM
1

Not really, which is funny because it has acronyms like AI (approach invitation) but no AA.
/r/seduction19/05/11 11:18 PM
1

Haha. I came immediately to Seddit to post that after I saw it on Hacker News. The take-away is a reaffirmation of one of Seddit's core tenants: how others perceive your status and value are highly influenced by your body language and how you conduct yourself far beyond what you're actually saying. It's the reason why we're such advocates for "fake it til you make it" and "living in your own reality".
/r/seduction19/04/11 04:58 AM
3

I think that most skeptics will realize how successful almost everything is if they only tried. From "Sup" to "God, you are fucking hot" to "Did you see the two guys derping outside?" to "lol so my sisters wants a tattoo..." to "You are shimmering with power." Approaching with anything is better than not approaching. And what you actually say is less important than how you come across.
/r/seduction22/03/11 08:07 PM
6

Have you been out of the States? US has one of the most approachable cultures in the world. Fuck, you could even say Hello to everyone that walks past you in NYC and it's not a big deal. People in general are insecure and don't acknowledge those around them.
/r/seduction21/03/11 04:04 AM
3

Core information doesn't really change, though. If anything, it makes more sense for core information to be compiled somewhere because it's static. As a newbie, you should sit the fuck down and consume it until you understand things like why wussy men are actually manipulative and success with women is actually contingent on you evicting you manipulative ways and stop trying to control every situation. You know, things that you got backwards until you really started to understand this stuff. Whe…
/r/seduction13/03/11 02:40 AM
3

Sure, but Seddit isn't the Who's Who of Legendary PUAs to begin with. Seddit already downvotes "noob" questions where the OP evidently didn't even venture 5 seconds of Seddit exploration before making the thread. If the OP doesn't put much effort in, it's clear that few of us are likely to respond. However, GOOD "noob" questions that ask good questions from an OP that clearly is trying to consume Seddit material are always looked highly upon. For example, FRs are more or less noob questions, but…
/r/seduction13/03/11 02:36 AM
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Every subreddit on Reddit has a subset of subdivision advocates that push for the fractioning and marginalization of yet more subsubreddits. It's a destructive endeavor. Just ignore the few crabs that can't contribute anything to a thread but the call to post it in some other arbitrary location. Frankly, I can't even imagine what makes AskSeddit unique. People ask questions on Seddit. Good questions get upvoted. Bad questions don't. And it gives Seddit a rounded mix of FR's, questions, and infor…
/r/seduction12/03/11 08:01 PM
13

I'd definitely say that sideways is the default we're-walking-towards-eachother-uh-oh-better-not-make-eye-contact reaction rather than anything indicative of disinterest. Next time you walk down a sidewalk, make eye contact with everyone. You'll quickly realize how reactive it is. Almost nobody will hold your gaze no matter who they are. The sideways "derp, I swear I heard something come from this direction just now" glance-away is humanity's #1 move. Back when I was 15 and first listening to Da…
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:54 AM
10

Took me half of university to figure out that apparent disinterest is often nervousness. One of my most game-changing realizations.
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:48 AM
1

You're getting voted down because you aren't even trying. Check out this link in the sidebar: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ctoxh/new_to_seddit_check_here_first/ Girls in classes are the easiest girls to pick up. You are in a structural setting of the LOWEST stakes. You can sit next to girls and battle internally with what to say the entire lecture, never nut up and say anything, and nothing will be different. You can drop cute one-liners intermittently throughout the lecture that y…
/r/seduction13/02/11 08:59 PM
2

I'm big on day game, which is just codeword for "I talk to girls outside of the club setting". For me, clubbing/downtown is where you take girls you met during the day, and it feeds into a circle of friends (social proof) that continues a self-perpetuating ability to bring home girls from downtown. Fortunately, I have a lot of time during the day to meet girls (college student), but I know that guys up in this bitch depend on the whole "going out" thing to meet girls, like guys with real jobs wo…
/r/seduction27/01/11 09:33 AM
2

The OP even explains that he'll offer his name if she asks, "which she'll do if she's interested." If you want to seem like a total corncob though, go ahead and ask for her name and then declare "Cool, cuz my name's Danny! Durr-hyuck!"
/r/seduction27/01/11 09:21 AM
3

For me, social risk-taking is all about momentum. I make small chat with everyone. All the little interactions give me a running repository of conversation material for when it counts. What can I say? I'm big on recycling. Go green.
/r/seduction27/01/11 05:02 AM
1

Nah. Really, name exchange is so customary that nobody even really cares.
/r/seduction27/01/11 03:39 AM
3

Only betas get their "limits pushed" by trivial internet posts. I don't make the rules.
/r/seduction24/01/11 11:18 AM
1

Deangelo is my first and only influence (I guess, hook) into the concept of actually thinking about how to attract women. Most of his value is in his spoken stuff like his massive collection of guru interviews and presentations which I find hard to downplay. He's a good place to start if you want to avoid the "seduction" scene all together. That said, I discovered him when I was 15 and haven't visited his content in years, but I'm not sure of any established persona in the scene that doesn't sha…
/r/seduction24/01/11 11:14 AM
2

Maybe he could have "scored", but that's not indicative of the utter failure in the attraction/connection game.
/r/seduction15/01/11 07:25 AM
1

I remember some awkward movie nights in highschool. Feeling all rigid as every minute passed and I still hadn't made some move, any move. For the same reason you should try to escalate to a kiss in the middle of the date rather at the end on the doorstep, start the escalation before the movie. One option is to prepare something in the kitchen together.
/r/seduction09/01/11 04:41 AM
3

I'm a 22 year old UT student and I've always found it easier to take girls home just outside of 6th's UT bubble. Younger girls are more frequently uneasy about going home with you unless you live in a very convenient location, like across the street from their sorority house and their best girlfriend is going to drive you there. Too much of a logistical nightmare no matter how old you are.
/r/seduction08/01/11 04:25 AM
3

Yeah, don't. It's even worse than trying to convey a good face-to-face story through Facebook chat. I personally like escalating to phone call terms as fast as possible. To me, texting is purely functional and can't get much more intimate than maybe rebuilding some familiarity with a new girl by reinstantiating an inside joke yall had when you met downtown that first night.
/r/seduction04/01/11 11:14 AM
1

Her friend comes, so the two of them take off down the hill, and as they do I yell at her to “keep looking at people!” Another one in the bag. Haha, I love these. Also, someone left you an amazing comment on the "i like em young" post. Lots of value in what she said. Good luck!
/r/seduction23/12/10 11:03 AM
1

Not to mention getting so directly shut down. Most people are immature and wouldn't even know how to respond to that beyond avoiding you.
/r/seduction20/12/10 06:05 AM
3

You probably went overboard. Playing tickle monster with your supposed "wingwoman" at the bar?
/r/seduction20/12/10 05:54 AM
0

You really put a shitty lens on this community.
/r/seduction20/12/10 05:52 AM
1

And then you feel like you look even more beta and "rehearsed" any time you contemplate making a move. Of course, at that point, you're overthinking it, but it always froze me up real bad.
/r/seduction20/12/10 05:48 AM
3

David DeAngelo influenced me years ago with this same topic. He mentioned watching some journalist on TV walk into a monastery and exclaim that it was "shimmering with power", so in a bar he told a random girl that she was "shimmering with power" just to get a reaction. Whenever I've hesitated with a girl, I always remember that worst case scenario, I can just exclaim "you're shimmering with power." Usually gets me to at least say "hi".
/r/seduction06/12/10 10:52 AM
2

Yeah, biggest thing I learned in college is that generally, we're all pretty lonely in a way. Many people go all day without having any meaningful interaction with strangers, yet they're open to it. Lots of people spend time worrying about their look, then they'll sit in classes and study at Starbucks all day and then go home. The default mode of operation for most of the world is to stay inside its comfort zone and play things safe.
/r/seduction01/12/10 05:54 AM
17

Sure, it feels shitty. But if you are serious about a girl and some dude sweeps her away, you have a net gain from it. He saved you time.
/r/seduction01/12/10 05:31 AM
1

I'll reiterate the first and foremost: Your main goal is to keep the conversation light and fun and be playful. Socially vibe. The ideal scenario is that you're both laughing and enjoying yourselves. That's it. If you can achieve that, then no matter what, the date will feel successful for both of you and you'll feel triumphant even if you missed every signal, hint, and clue.
/r/seduction16/11/10 06:36 AM
1

Anxieties will control your life until you confront them. The only way to truly confront them is to flood your discomfort zone. Approach people and you'll soon find yourself too familiar with the act of approaching to make up all the fairytales in your head that used to drive your anxiety. Things you're routinely familiar with simply can't exist outside your comfort zone.
/r/seduction16/11/10 06:22 AM
1

There are a lot of things wrong with your assertion, but I'll just say that stumbling across David DeAngelo when I was 15 dramatically changed my life. Even if I didn't act on it immediately, it gave me a rough idea of where I wanted to be and how I'd get there. I can't speak for his newest material since I haven't consumed "material" for years, but I recommend his older stuff (interviews) to guys just getting interested in this community. He's one of the few "gurus" who distances himself from t…
/r/seduction10/11/10 04:23 AM
1

huyvanbin is fortunate that you wrote this up. i hope he appreciates it and re-reads it. you're one of this community's best contributors and anyone that posts a FR should hope for such a dedicated response.
/r/seduction08/11/10 06:55 PM
2

In response to your mini-FR: What's even more accessible than trying to quickly escalate to phone number exchanging terms with someone you don't really know or just met? Facebook. If a girl makes a good impression on you, the lowest hanging fruit is to at least trade Facebook friend requests on your smartphones. Often it even has more escalation potential if you have absolutely no solid basis to even text each other. I agree that sometimes the phone number exchange can feel premature. Facebook f…
/r/seduction08/11/10 06:37 PM
1

Not only is that severely inconclusive like most internet chit-chat, but you're putting way too much weight on it. Internet messaging mobilizes such little social capital that you don't really make a huge impression either way. It should only really be used as a mechanism to escalate to a phone chat and ultimately a face-to-face. You can seriously say the stupidest shit while IMing and completely overwrite it by being cool when you call her. The only people who take it seriously are those that o…
/r/seduction08/11/10 06:19 PM
66

Don't get sucked into the vanity side of "Seduction". Seddit is pretty good about minimizing the use of AFC-DHV-IOI vogue spam, but those words first emerged on newsgroup/usenet discussions of guys trying to figure this shit out. Nutshelling high concepts into simple terms became mutually-understood jargon to expedite communication in these early days. Unfortunately, these acronyms were great for marketing a "secret underground seduction community" with books like The Game and VH1's Pickup Artis…
/r/seduction24/10/10 10:15 PM
3

Eye contact like that should just condition your approach and nothing more. Hell, sometimes I accidentally make eye contact with some random person a lot simply because we happen to. So don't run with it too far. We all respect your confidence in the approach, but seduction is all about building attraction, not the numbers of cold-calling X girls out and hoping a % of them say yes. Let's say you instead approached her in the gym casually and just socially vibed with her. Then when you asked her …
/r/seduction18/10/10 06:26 PM
2

Yeah, man. Best thing you could do is try even the corniest thing we said and then reply with your results.
/r/seduction16/10/10 10:44 AM
18

Just accept that dance floors and loud clubs aren't places to run game that needs a high-level conversational exchange. And it's a beautiful thing. It's imperative that you learn how to build attraction without even really saying anything. It's especially imperative that you learn how to dance.
/r/seduction16/10/10 10:41 AM
4

Don't think there's any Seddit-related takeaway from this other than a reminder that humans can be crummy.
/r/seduction16/10/10 10:33 AM
1

longhorn
/r/seduction16/10/10 10:30 AM
11

good article, really. hugging at the beginning of a date is huge. if you're not setting the "at least we've hugged" baseline, you're starting even below "at least we've high-fived". in europe, i grew accustomed to the cheek kiss and accidentally pulled it on girls back in the states when i moved back. such good results that i've continued to do it. i pull the same "lol accident. you see, i lived in europe and <epic stories>..." routine. and if you're waiting until the dropping-you-off kiss on th…
/r/seduction13/10/10 11:27 PM
1

I was about to say this. It's why people feel accomplishment when they tell everyone they're quitting smoking every weekend but never actually do.
/r/seduction13/10/10 11:13 PM
10

Day game = socially vibing with a girl. College is easy because it's structured. In class, even if you have fuckall to say to the babe next to you because your sphincter is so tight, you can generally spend 15 minutes thinking up one-liners of low-stakes conversation starters/progressers and then sneak them to her between the professor's sentences. Class is an easy place to build conversational/social confidence because the stakes are so low. Well, the stakes are always low really, as it's all a…
/r/seduction11/10/10 10:43 PM
2

Girls party. Underclassmen girls go to them. Frat parties are highly solicited and accessible to everyone. If you enjoy them, go to them. But being hungry for a LTR is just a bad mindset. Keep going to frat parties. My university has 50,000 undergrads and I still met a LOT of girls my first 2 years of university that I still keep in touch with and are responsible for my circle of friends I have to this very day. Get out of the LTR-hunter mindset. Have fun. Any experience with girls is good exper…
/r/seduction11/10/10 10:15 PM
2

Pretty much. The problem isn't in the situation, which really just boils down to "girl asks boy to help with X." The problem is in the guy's inexperience and cluelessness, which will undoubtedly turn him into a subservient pleaser that won't tease her or take the opportunity to flirt with her. He'll likely focus more on getting the task done and less on just hanging back and making it fun for himself. My advice is to, yeah, flirt, tease, and socially vibe. But these are rather demanding suggesti…
/r/seduction11/10/10 10:04 PM
10

You don't need an excuse, neighbor. Odds are, she's bored as shit in her place watching Gossip Girl and browsing /r/TwoXChromosomes. Your excuse is that you want to talk to her. She'll be glad to see you. Someone else mentioned borrowing a cup of milk or something. It's funny because it's purposefully obvious. What are you making with this cup of milk, DerpDerpBurp? A fucking protein shake.
/r/seduction07/10/10 06:55 AM
4

Sure, but the seduction community is far more than just formulaic shit like the Mystery Method. More and more men are growing up out of touch with how to even generate attraction and what exactly is attractive. Believe it or not, you're preaching to the choir. "Just get out there and do it" is already one of our ad nauseams.
/r/seduction07/10/10 03:39 AM
12

Definitely recommend against this. Nobody likes being pressured into starting conversation and forced into performance mode.
/r/seduction07/10/10 03:23 AM
5

I've been into the "seduction community" since I was 15 and subscribed to Cliff's List. I've written a lot of words regarding seduction over the past 7 years. And I've never used a term like "HB8" in my life. Too many people come in as unappeasable skeptics and scorn the easily-scornable shit. I probably would've done the same had The Game or VH1's Pickup Artist show been my initial insight into the community. All the acronyms and over-simplifications still nauseate me sometimes when I see them …
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:57 PM
2

You only come off creepy if you use it to masquerade the fact that you just want to talk to her. Hell, my most used opener is just "sup", smile, followed by an innocuous comment.
/r/seduction04/10/10 10:02 AM
3

Nah. New day, new frame. Often a bad/beta move to bring back a previous encounter if you feel you feel like you weren't in control during it.
/r/seduction02/10/10 04:21 PM
1

person walking in the opposite direction No doubt! That's disruptive as fuck. People have shit to do, and if you stop them going the opposite way, you're essentially telling them you're about to do and say something that's worth dropping what they're doing. And unless you're David Blaine, you probably shouldn't be stopping someone hustling to catch the metro going the opposite direction. Since you brought that up as an example, compare that to saying something to someone walking the same directi…
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:11 AM
2

It's amazing how much of the world instantly averts eye contact if you eye-lock them while passing them in a hall. It was one of the first things I noticed when I started actively looking into body language and it still baffles me. Every dozen of people, maybe one person will reciprocate the eye contact, but don't look away until they do. Most people don't last one second, awkwardly checking their cell phone or something. If it's another guy, just nod your head. He's one of us. If it's a girl, t…
/r/seduction15/09/10 07:02 AM
1

on the topic of approaching girls like normal people, there's a lot to gain from just being able to befriend girls. every guy here needs some girl friends that are similar to the type of girl he's attracted to. i don't think there's a more effortless way to meet prequalified women. i've become so complacent because of my circle of friends that i don't think i've been laid by a girl all year that didn't know one of my female friends.
/r/seduction15/09/10 06:45 AM
3

Interactions with people have low stakes. In fact, the casual initiator has even less at stake than the receiver. From smiling and saying "hello" to mentioning something funny to the person next to you, the person either can't match your casual friendliness and doesn't respond or they do respond. There's no obligation to keep conversations going. But you'll find that as you start talking to more people, the conversational machinery sparks back to life. As you engage people, you build social skil…
/r/seduction15/09/10 06:34 AM
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I don't wait. Like a fire, the connection will burn out if you don't keep it stoked. Wait too long and you're back to square one trying to jog a connection from scratch. I usually mention that I spend time at the campus pool. Girls like pools and it's hot Texas, so it's an easy pretense to set up before we split. I love the pool because I can call up friends, acquaintances, and girls I don't even talk to and tell them to bring a swimsuit to campus. Low stakes. Worst case scenario, too many peopl…
/r/seduction06/09/10 10:55 PM
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Life. Meet women during life. During your days and nights, no matter what you're doing. Be social, spread vibes, make connections. Clubs/bars are different animals. Motives are always obvious and everything is inherently framed around the "hook up". If you don't like it, don't waste your time and your money. Also, don't narrowcast people that go to clubs. Bars and clubs don't have a monopoly on vapid/boring people. Our culture glamorizes bars/clubs as the thing to do on thursday night. It's just…
/r/seduction03/09/10 11:08 PM
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I ride my bike to and from university campus. Some hills I just absolutely cruise down, going to fast I even start to feel a bit uneasy. My old bike creaking and straining to stay together. So fast that I actually feel relieved when I hit the bottom of the hill even though I cruise down it twice a day. Last week, I was passing a bike shop when I saw a promotional sign out front said "$20 tune-up". My bike being a hand-me-down from my dad, I went in and had them look at it. My back wheel always h…
/r/seduction03/09/10 11:00 PM
1

Since attraction isn't a choice, it's generally specious to suggest that attraction's factors can be unethical. Having a girlfriend showcases your desirability which is attractive. You're being prequalified by the fact that another female wants you. Humans want things that other humans want. It's how we evaluate social status.
/r/seduction01/09/10 03:33 PM
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If you're ever packed in a lecture hall, draw a tic-tac-toe grid in the margin of your notes and nudge it towards the girl next to you. There is no worst case scenario. If she grouchily rejects your sporty offer, you can say, surprised, "Whoa, not friendly." or just "Oh, not a fan?"
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:50 AM
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Just a warning: If you get into the "gotta neg, gotta neg!" mode when talking to girls, at the very best you'll come off as the annoying kid that pulls girls' ponytails at recess. At worst: someone who feels unapproachable and prevents connection. Story of my highschool life.
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:45 AM
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I recommend most guys replace "neg" with "flirt" or "tease". It's generally a healthier mindset and "negging" should be reserved for actually negging. It's very counter-productive, especially for someone just getting into this stuff, to confuse the concepts. When in doubt, don't even neg. The only "mandatory neg" is to reveal to a girl that her attractiveness doesn't faze you. You do this by not being a chump, by flirting with confidence with energy derived from your will to have fun, not derive…
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:35 AM
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In a big classroom when you're mashed in rows with other students, start a tic-tac-toe game in the margin of your notes. Place your X and then inch your notes to the girl next to you. It's always funny, especially when the professor is particularly dull. Second tip: Greet everyone adjacent to you when you seat yourself in a large classroom. Do this daily and be the icebreaker. The person that greets everyone else is always the most approachable.
/r/seduction31/08/10 04:55 PM
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Actually, it's mostly used by women viciously towards each other.
/r/seduction31/08/10 07:10 AM
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Highschool and college is the biggest concentrations of cute girls your age that you'll ever experience in your life. Unfortunately, these experiences come before our real world experiences so it's hard to appreciate these truths. Moreover, girls in college are generally more similar to you and directed than the chaos outside of the institution. The education system is a social sandbox. Crash and burn while you try to accumulate experience now while you're in a position to meet new people every …
/r/seduction29/08/10 08:38 PM
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Best post yet. I learned all these the hard way in highschool. Furthermore: Escalate from texting to calling/meeting as soon as possible. You learn more about someone 60 seconds into your first phone call than you could learn texting them all summer. You don't want to be like me my senior year of highschool and finally meet up with a girl only to realize despite the thousands of text messages back and forth, you hardly know her. Never heard her laugh before or the way she tells a joke. It's an i…
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:32 PM
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Calibrate it from the other side: It's better to "undertease" than to "overtease". The latter makes you simply unapproachable and prevents connection while the former doesn't really have any direct "repercussion" (I don't think "underteasing" even exists). I'll actually venture to say that "when it works" for you has less to do with the nature of your teases and more to do with the girl. I've said and tried some stupid things with girls and have still hooked up, but my counter-productive efforts…
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:00 PM
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See the thing is I usually take teasing to the point that it seems to piss them off rather then be into me. You've identified your problem. It's a big one, too. Taking teasing too far is an attraction massacre. I had a similar problem in highschool. It's like I thought I had to keep pushing the envelope. If she's not laughing or playfully scoffing at you, you might be killing attraction. You really need to address it. Might stem from insecurity as my tendency did.
/r/seduction21/08/10 08:39 PM
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It's easy to be bitter about the past and how shit would be different had it gone any other way. I certainly was. My childhood sucked beyond. A lot of men today just have sterile suburbia upbringings keeping us susceptible and exposed to the emasculation that social conditioning perpetuates, a problem only getting worse. "PUA" and stumbling into this subreddit are huge eye-openers that help explain shortcomings of the modern western male and our to-date experience in the education system. At lea…
/r/seduction20/08/10 09:22 PM
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22 in a couple weeks. Learning to 1) fight and 2) dance have directly enriched my life. Learning to fight, face opponents, deal with defeat, and just expanding that part of your grey matter are all empowering, especially on a subconscious level. Stick with it and I promise you'll find yourself carrying yourself differently through the day.
/r/seduction20/08/10 10:15 AM
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You sound like me my freshman year. Overcoming self-image problems, caring what others think, and all the inner dialogue that directly conspires against you is at least 80% of the journey to success with women. Worst of all: It's easy to say but hard to do. Nobody chooses to be nervous, anxious, and have schizo-levels of inner dialogue. Inner dialogue was always my problem. Any time there was any amount of social pressure or a feeling of "performance", it's like alternate personalities would ris…
/r/seduction20/08/10 04:00 AM
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Nice! I recommend going about your day and talking to those in your direct vicinity. Just take cues from around you until it's natural. I was at a crosswalk the other day. It was a hot Texas day with one cloud in the sky. Yet the girl next to me was carrying a transparent umbrella over her head. I crinkled my brow and put my palms to the sky as if I was feeling for rain. She laughed, put her umbrella away. We exchanged some light banter for a block and went separate ways. Right on about it being…
/r/seduction18/08/10 03:39 PM
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Huge point. I'll repeat that again: Introverted people classically hide their emotions out of fear of rejection. Can drive you crazy until you understand that they're insecure, not stoic.
/r/seduction18/08/10 03:18 PM
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Yeah, that's the point. I think it's counter-productive for guys to focus on women. You can't improve your confidence with women without improving your confidence in every aspect of life. That approach is backwards. Success with women is a natural consequence of more life-changing shifts, so I think it's a healthier approach to realize that from the beginning.
/r/seduction16/08/10 08:01 PM
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Was introduced to the reality of there being a community of men actively looking to, formulaically or otherwise, improve their success with women when I was 15. If I had to introduce my friend to it all now after 7 years, I'd make him put himself in positions to talk to everyone and get involved with social groups where he has to speak to women and men alike. Then I'd tell him to put some David DeAngelo on his ipod while he rides his bike or goes for a jog. Start off with David's 77 Laws of Succ…
/r/seduction15/08/10 07:19 PM
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A decent amount of us, myself included, distance ourselves from "seduction" and "PUA" terminology. You'll find that Seddit isn't a bunch of PUA wannabes and if you find chatter that's too PUA-ish, just dial down the acronyms and look for the basic message that's being communicated. Besides, saying you don't want to be a PUA is like a girl complaining that she doesn't want to be bulky when she hits the gym; Don't worry about that happening. ;) Where do you start? You start by talking to everyone.…
/r/seduction14/08/10 11:38 PM
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Yeah, waiting is for seduction forum jockeys. We're talking about a girl OP randomly got the phone number of. Her connection to him is about as lasting as a lightbulb filament. Odd are the girl's not waiting next to her phone for him and the longer he waits, the more counter-productive he's being. You asked a girl for her phone number. It's not exactly a secret that you may want to see her in the future.
/r/seduction14/08/10 11:23 PM
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I'm taking a course at a local community college this summer before I finish off my degree at a large state university and I completely forgot how easy it is to establish personality and social authority in a small classroom. The social risk couldn't be any lower. If you aren't a stand-up guy, perhaps you can develop the personality in class. Being funny out loud, joking with the teacher, generally being chatty -- All great ways to experiment with what makes people laugh and how to be a social l…
/r/seduction14/08/10 06:39 AM
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Yeah, we obviously weren't there, but the language used made me expect a kiss to happen.
/r/seduction14/08/10 06:20 AM
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I don't particularly like david wygant, but I love his quote "I don't pick up women. I attract." david deangelo's "attraction isn't a choice" quote blew my mind since it was pretty much my entry point into my interest in attraction and the first four words I ever heard from the community. you'll find that trying to generate attraction with women goes against everything that will make you attractive as you become more and more successful with attracting women. finally, to actually address your qu…
/r/seduction14/08/10 06:11 AM
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You can't. But you can ensure that the qualities that made you originally attractive are in fact a part of you, not a temporary charade that will diminish as you grow comfortable and secure with her. And you can carry yourself in a way that lets your girlfriends know that you won't tolerate certain behavior, and ultimately possess the ability to terminate relationships on precisely your terms. Beyond that? Yeah, it's a free world. And thankfully so.
/r/seduction14/08/10 06:03 AM
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I recommend avoiding the "You should take me out sometime!" approach. Contrary to what you'd think, it's not a way to ask a girl out "without asking her". It's transparent and it's such low hanging fruit that girls get it all the time. My sister even showed me some texts from guys and asked me what "You should take me to dinner then" (and similar texts) meant. She receives it so often with no follow-up from the guy that she started interpreting it to mean that he wasn't interested enough to just…
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:49 AM
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Not to mention the extraordinary amount of people in "relationships" just for security, comfort, and until something better comes along. It's certainly easier to stay in one than break one for most people, especially when life's being a bit routine and slow.
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:40 AM
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Taking beta blockers or benzos for social anxiety is a great way to needlessly develop one of the most potent drug-induced psychological addictions possible.
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:30 AM
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You're an idiot.
/r/seduction09/08/10 06:23 AM
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I don't like "tricks" that hedge against kiss rejection. You want to develop intuition on when the moment beckons a kiss. Kissing is an in-the-moment thing that demands that you are present. So by playing a game, you risk diluting the moment. Or you're just making some rational-brain noise if there was no moment.
/r/seduction05/08/10 04:36 AM
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i've not read much of that thread, but from what i saw that put this particular comment in more context is that Incelmanlate20 seems to be crippling himself from the start by rejecting any possibilty success. it's as though he's frustrated that the responses to his thread didn't justify his self-limiting beliefs that he's doomed because of things out of his control and it's harder for him to justify his resentment. i downvoted this thread, though. we shouldn't be calling eachother out in Seddit …
/r/seduction31/07/10 07:52 PM
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men capable of causing emotional rollercoasters are also generally guys that don't play it safe and don't act completely and utterly predictable or manipulative (the demise of attraction) as men do that have a lot of inner conflict and anxieties. the world is more fair than your assertion that "decent, upstanding, responsible guys" are unattractive. similarly, challenging heroines that may take us for emotional rollercoasters are more attractive to us than Velma Dinkley from Scooby Doo who may c…
/r/seduction31/07/10 07:44 PM
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Too technical. A confident man laughs at what he wants to laugh at for as long as he thinks it's funny. The second you start analyzing something like "am I surrendering status by laughing too long", you are surrendering your status by nature of analysis, not because you're laughing too long. P.S. I fucking laugh at everything, especially when it's most inappropriate. I'll even laugh at things that aren't funny because they're so unfunny. Can't help it, always was like this. If anything, at least…
/r/seduction28/07/10 07:56 AM
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After your recommendation, I actually slipped that onto my ipod last night and listened to it on a bikeride to see why you were parading it around other threads. It's probably become one of the best, concise explanations of developing success with women and dating that I've heard. Definitely something I feel I can safely recommend to newbies, and that's rare. Good mix of theory, motivation, and actionable material in an hour's time.
/r/seduction17/07/10 12:35 PM
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Ignore the PUA/seduction marketed community. Pickup Artist Forums comes to mind. You end up just getting this circulation of low hanging fruit rather than learning things that will change your life. I was reluctant when I first came to Reddit Seduction, but I can proudly say that the most valuable, celebrated contributors here are down to earth, realistic, have a lot of insights, and you can tell that those that contribute are actually successful unlike a lot of other communities. You need to be…
/r/seduction16/07/10 09:03 PM
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Thanks for that. For some reason, I never liked Wygant until that audio file. Been a DeAngelo fan since 15 though.
/r/seduction16/07/10 07:30 PM
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I bartended downtown Austin. I'm not in the business anymore, but waiting tables and bartending are some jobs I highly recommend to any guy. You can't help but improve your social skills. Before I started, I thought I'd be running game on girls all night. The reality is that I got majority-laid by either girls I worked with (restaurant biz is generally like this) or girls I met outside of work would come see me when they found out where I worked. -- Both situations were pretty effortless. Beside…
/r/seduction11/07/10 08:46 AM
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Can't remember who said it, but someone in the community said not to get a girl naked unless you're going to seal the deal. From my experience, I agree.
/r/seduction07/07/10 12:50 PM
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Yeah, I'd actually say that it became a stronger opener from what it started out as. But I'm sure he felt disarmed at the time.
/r/seduction04/07/10 10:22 AM
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While clearly hyperbolized, it's clear that darkknight is describing the reality that you want to ultimately try to come from. The end game of PUA is being so comfortable with yourself and so free of limiting beliefs that you don't invoke any means of topical manipulation that the average male tries to do in the presence of an attractive female. Ultimately, your inner-self and your exterior actions are so congruous that you do treat the most unattractive girl the same as the most attractive girl…
/r/seduction19/06/10 09:40 PM
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Could always pop an Adderall. Social prowess comes from only one thing: Experience. Your ability to socialize literally defines your ability to communicate and interact with other humans at a high level. You can't read your way there nor can you get your social foundation from watching Gossip Girl. Just get out there and shape your day to day life in ways that maximize your socialization with others preferably in a fun way. Being a lead singer in a band sounds like a good start.
/r/seduction14/06/10 12:32 AM
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Nope. Most people think of expensive tourist excursions, cruise ships, and prepackaged vacations when they think travel. In reality, you can work for half a year cleaning toilets to fund a serious venture abroad. Even a month of rent in your city apartment can fuel weeks of smart traveling. I'm about to graduate from university and I'll likely teach English somewhere in southeast Asia for a year and see where that takes me.
/r/seduction11/06/10 09:50 AM
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If you want to see a man acting incongruous to who he really is, being so much unlike himself that he's more or less trying to "trick" a girl into liking him, take a look at the average male in the presence of an attractive female. The ultimate goal of PUA is that how you act towards others, especially attractive women, is congruous with who you are as a person. The biggest stretch of the journey to success with women and dating is shedding your manipulative tendencies which is a rather ethical …
/r/seduction11/06/10 09:26 AM
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Nailed it. Girls go out clubbing and bar-hopping to meet guys and have fun. What she does during the day (perhaps functionally perusing the library or getting her Calculus III homework done at the park) and what she does at night are by no means exclusive or indicative of her ability to intellectually stimulate you. Now, I know what the OP is trying to ask, but the classification he presented in his post is ultimately just doing him a disservice. Meeting intellectually stimulating people in gene…
/r/seduction08/06/10 07:04 AM
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Plenty of girls shop there, but they'll stomp your ass out with their combat boots.
/r/seduction21/05/10 07:01 PM
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A lot of success with women and dating has to do with tearing down your inhibitions and counter-productive behaviors. You got tanked which enabled you to not be yourself.
/r/seduction15/05/10 10:06 PM
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Learning to be successful socially pretty much solely hinges on your ability to cut away the counterproductive obstacles that you've developed over time. Unfortunately we aren't all cut from a mold that makes us instantly attractive or particularly sociable to our fellow humans. Your comfort zone precludes touching and eye contact, thus if you want to include touching and eye contact into your comfort zone, you're going to need to leave it. So head to the local mall and start groping people.
/r/seduction15/05/10 08:41 AM
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Haha, been reading narcism's responses all thread so far. I think he's busy trying to convince himself that success with women is a very narrow gamble.
/r/seduction04/05/10 06:07 AM
2

1 is his best point. Rude? Risky? ...Haha. By walking outside your house you're subjected to the scrutiny of the world. Approaching a girl and saying anything can be counter-productive. The entire premise of attraction is that what you think might happen does not matter. I can think of a lot of reasons why interrupting a girl on her cell phone might not work. If it does work, you know you've got an interesting girl in front of you that knows how to play ball. Flirting is obvious. It should be ob…
/r/seduction04/05/10 05:53 AM
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Passing off someone else's contribution as your own, throughout any interaction in life, is poor character. Reddit and Youtube comments don't need to be glorified into publish-worthy content just to deserve some attribution respect. If someone is ripping off a Youtube comment for their PUA blog, it evidently was something more than an lolcats reference followed by "XD". Even then, if you're going to start copy-pasting my witty Youtube comment trollings around the internet, I better see a "- warp…
/r/seduction01/05/10 10:14 AM
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First of all, it's good that you wrote this out. Keep writing. Your future self will thank you for it. Last year (I'm now 21), I found a stack of intermittent writing that I did when I was in middle/high school. It was sitting in this attic bin of old trophies, school work, and other shit you'd typically throw away. I don't remember much from those years, but it was touching to read what I was going through then. It really gave me insight into why I'm the person I am today and sparked memories I…
/r/seduction01/05/10 09:58 AM
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She's not sleeping with you because she likes you. Girls will often do what guys do when they like someone: Overthink. It's equally frustrating for girls when a guy likes them, but the guy is too busy overthinking every action he can make that he's paralyzed in inaction. We all have these funny human quirks and hangups.
/r/seduction28/04/10 04:45 PM
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Just don't bring up IT anymore. If there's ever a lull in the conversation, asking her about IT troubles she might have is low-hanging, ultra-lame fruit, but don't be tempted. Next step? Call her and let her know that she should join you for event X within the next few days. In the future, don't use an offering of IT help to exchange numbers. It's definitely a tempting method because it's so innocent and hard to reject. The clearer it is that you're trading numbers to explicitly see each other a…
/r/seduction26/04/10 03:29 AM
2

I personally recommend a good, tall hat.
/r/seduction24/04/10 03:19 AM
5

Break out of your bubble. The most rapid way to do this is to travel. Spend half a year across the world and you WILL come back as a new man. It's hard to change your paradigms of life when you live the same day 7 times a week. Talk to everyone.
/r/seduction23/04/10 09:03 PM
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Bonkdaddy is referring to the peer-reviewed resignation that unconfident men like to circulate amongst themselves as they collectively agree that no matter what, they'll never have success with women and dating due to various excuses.
/r/seduction23/04/10 08:58 PM
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I think a different way to put it is that guys frequently seem to learn just enough from the seduction community to be able to communicate their failures and why they'll never succeed in PUA lingo. It's very common and I'd say it explains the majority of the superficial "PUA community" on PUA message boards. It's caused by the instant gratification "nuggets" of PUA like "negs", "openers", "routines" being such low-hanging fruit that they're the first concepts consumed by newbies. However, these …
/r/seduction20/04/10 12:40 AM
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Nailed it. Suggesting someone can't hold a conversation because they didn't turn your random, simple compliment into a stimulating discussion is very narrow-minded. The best follow-up to "heh thanks" is actually starting a conversation.
/r/seduction05/04/10 09:10 PM
1

he makes up for it with his audio content. from his advanced series to his interviews with dating gurus to his 77 laws of success with dating -- it's a lot of good content.
/r/seduction27/03/10 06:40 PM
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Nailed it hard. Good piece.
/r/seduction26/03/10 07:42 AM
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Definitely. Many guys overlook the fact that "hi" is still one of the most successful pickup lines. I think indoctrination into PUA material makes guys size it up to witty openers and subsequently avoid it.
/r/seduction26/03/10 07:37 AM
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I'm a big fan of David DeAngelo (writer of Double Your Dating) but haven't read his book. I used to consume his audio content. He illustrates the concepts of attraction without getting into PUA acronyms. He even expresses a distaste for "seduction".
/r/seduction24/03/10 12:04 AM
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I go speed dating all the time in downtown Austin. Like any conversation, generic questions are boring and should be avoided at all costs. As soon as you shoot her a boring question, you'll see the blood drain from her face and her flirty smile will turn into :|. If you're going in with canned material, beware that people often go to speed dating in groups so you don't want girls to be comparing notes at the end and discover you're some sort of material spammer. "Wow, he said that to me too!" ne…
/r/seduction23/03/10 02:21 AM
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thinking too hard about your facebook profile means that you're doing it wrong. 99% of people will, upon finding your facebook page, immediately start looking through your pictures. it's the fastest way to get a sense of somebody. reading through their information? not so much, so don't put much weight on it. i have a couple favorite books/movies/music/quotes that i like to share and can potentially be used as conversational topics, but that simply isn't the way fb interactions go and you won't …
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:54 AM
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Nice. Once you start approaching girls, you get that approach inertia where you can snowball the conversational fuel you used with other girls into your interaction with the next girl. Very easy way to eradicate approach anxiety
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:31 AM
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this scenario shouldn't be a common one. if girls aren't consistently remembering you, it sounds like you're wrangling numbers without making a memorable impression. it's much easier to do well during the night game to set yourself up for the following day(s) than it is to deal with the "who are you" scenario. as far as your question goes, i like to text a girl i met, then call her after she texts me back. that way she's had her memory jogged about you, you can refer to some jokes yall shared th…
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:27 AM
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You were right to have left her with a single missed call during the event. Since it was so open, it doesn't sound like she flaked. For all you know, there are dozens of plausible reasons yall didn't get to see eachother. I'm personally a huge advocate for always calling over texting. Always. You build rapport MUCH more rapidly that way, you get used to talking, she feels more comfortable, and it contributes more to your success. I of course text when I'm idling during the day, at work, or in cl…
/r/seduction21/02/10 04:13 PM
3

A big criticism of learning to be more attractive involves suggesting that it's manipulative. However, guys forget how manipulative and not-themselves they are around attractive females that they're interested in. Understanding attraction and how it works improves your life in many ways with the ultimate goal of becoming naturally attractive without effort. I do agree that the PUA community focuses too much on the low hanging fruit that is learning a bunch of canned interactions and carbon copyi…
/r/seduction05/02/10 05:07 AM
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Haha, exactly.
/r/seduction01/02/10 03:09 AM
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I never liked the word "neg" or many of the ways the neg is introduced or explained. All you're doing is being playful and teasing. I'd rather use David DeAngelo's "cocky and funny" to get the point across.
/r/seduction31/01/10 07:08 PM
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Good idea. I think we should introduce newbies to non-"PUA", non-"seduction" resources. I've seen guys learn what a "neg" was and suddenly go about harassing women with insults and I believe there's definitely a wrong way to jump into this.
/r/seduction31/01/10 08:09 AM
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The way you cure one-itis with women is with experience: to jump in and desensitize yourself by placing yourself in a situation where you meet a lot of women, particularly high quality women. I don't know what you personally happen to be alluding to when you speak of other aspects in your life, but exposure (and overexposure) to alternatives and gaining new perspectives can get you out of that rut.
/r/seduction31/01/10 06:00 AM
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Good advice in number one. You could even give her a little wink.
/r/seduction31/01/10 04:06 AM
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You can put yourself in a position where you have no choice but to interact with people all day every day. If you're younger, consider waiting tables. You have no choice but to become more sociable and build social skills which lead to comfort with people altogether.
/r/seduction29/01/10 04:46 PM
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Those books are also David DeAngelo's recommended titles, which is how I found out about them (and read them). Wether or not you're interested in the science of attraction, they are powerful and I think everyone should always be seeking new perspectives. These books deliver.
/r/seduction27/01/10 09:06 PM
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haha, we were just young highschool babies still getting a grasp on this whole thing. if i ever got that message nowadays at my age of 21, you can bet it would be on much different terms. bottom line is just to not hesitate on escalation and taking things to the next level.
/r/seduction23/01/10 08:14 PM
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Biggest lifechanging event for me was when I was a sophomore in highschool and still learning how to interact with girls. I was grounded hard from some trouble I'd gotten into and this girl I had casually known from classes baked me some cookies and snuck over to my house while my parents were asleep. We ended up lighting a small firepit in the woods behind our property and were talking for hours. She eventually went home and left me a text message I'll never forget. It simply said "Shut up and …
/r/seduction22/01/10 11:00 PM
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Not sure exactly what alternative to the fish in the sea mentality you're proposing. Maybe just harp on the girl you keep failing to build attraction with until she loves you?
/r/seduction15/01/10 06:09 AM
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Good post. It seems that most guys that jump into the seduction community will flagrantly insult girls until they begin to realize that they misinterpreted the neg. I personally distance myself from the seduction community and prefer to teach my friends about attraction. The whole pickup artist community (industry) is so formulaic that I don't blame guys for getting stuck in it. Jumping into it is usually unhealthy given all the absolute trash floating around in it.
/r/seduction10/01/10 07:33 AM
1

I don't think there's such a limit to negging. It's a playful device. As long as she's laughing, it's working.
/r/seduction10/01/10 07:23 AM
1

Sure, but look at the PUA community distribution. Also, we're discussing the reasons why PUA is often looked down upon. It's a perception thing.
/r/seduction17/12/09 01:59 AM
5

There's a distinction between "game" and natural methods of attraction generation. Most of game feels forced and is canned. Girls sense the incongruency from a mile away and I think the "seduction community" really does earn most of its negative reputation. Most of the noise resounding around the community comes from insecure guys that think "neg" means relentlessly attack women and if you have any experience in the field, you see it all the time. Almost all self-proclaimed "PUAs" are far from w…
/r/seduction17/12/09 01:34 AM
2

While I've never read DYD, David DeAngelo is definitely my favorite. If I had to recommend one guy in this field, I recommend him because he separates attraction from the whole seduction/PUA business -- the latter often responsible for fucking over guys who just jump into it.
/r/seduction13/12/09 11:50 PM
4

Good to hear that you impressed a really hot internet.
/r/seduction11/12/09 10:22 AM
2

Not really the best place to learn pickup, but it's somewhat entertaining. Might motivate you. Like most reality shows, the focus is on the participants and their struggle to win, so don't except much subject matter in the way of techniques and such. And for fuck's sake don't use, "Hey, did yall see that fight outside?" as an opener.
/r/seduction10/12/09 05:36 PM
5

don't dip your pen in the company ink. much more of a dilemma than whatever inexperience you may have in doing the actual pen dipping.
/r/seduction08/12/09 10:14 PM
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