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Sorry but that *is* civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:29 PM
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Me, u/HazyMemory7, practically every man in this thread who has posted the very same thing: you're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:17 PM
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Nah, I just have functioning eyes and a brain Apparently not since the entire subject of your post is a lie or misunderstanding that you're having. The amount of time women are called sluts, whores, amoral, lacking virtue… That’s not a straw man, that’s verbatim dude Strawman. The premise of your post is laughably untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:16 PM
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Ok but the point of subject of this post is essentially a lie. What you're saying, and the OP is saying, is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:12 PM
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You are without a doubt one of the silliest posters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:39 PM
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Because men are the only ones who will say it. Women will just pretend it's not true and then will act in a way that proves that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:34 PM
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Acting like women (but not men) who are sexually open are amoral or bad is ridiculous We're just acting like they're not marriage material. You're erecting strawmen because you don't actually have a reasonable comeback to this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:28 PM
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There's nothing wrong with your preferences, and there's nothing wrong with someone suggesting you to think about why you feel that way. That person doesn't understand nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:27 PM
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No she's just delusional and in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:18 PM
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You can’t make a hoe into a housewife is not grounded in any kind of reality. LOL. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:16 PM
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Yeah that seems like women being killed by men they *accepted*
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:07 PM
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his standard of beauty It's the general standard for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:06 PM
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You're wrong. The standard itself is what's shamed. For me. All the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:05 PM
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No, they stay in abusive relationships because they're subconsciously drawn to the "feelings" involved in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:36 PM
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LMAO. This sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:35 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:34 PM
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When you find out your wrong you just go here. As do almost everyone else like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:53 PM
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Says a clueless woman. Women are the selectors so their selection criteria is the main driver of this stuff. How could it not be "mostly" on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:53 PM
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Because you're apparently not paying attention: it's most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:34 PM
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You know who isn't to blame for men's problems? Women. Of course not, sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:32 PM
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Also wasn’t there a stat that said women consume more violent porn than men? Also what does porn have to do with the Redpill? Your post raises so many questions… Women are simply virtue signaling. Women like being roughed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:27 PM
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The vast majority of women I've been with asked for it to be rough. Once again a woman not understanding a single thing about female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:26 PM
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No you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:24 PM
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Because they're always dishonest on this topic. They're always lying to make it come right for their silly opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:39 AM
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His evidence is that he's not delusional like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:35 AM
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The guy is spitting facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:42 AM
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Not me I know. I already said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:13 AM
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The truth about male/female behavior in nature. But who needs that?!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:18 AM
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But they don't. This is observably true. They want the hot guys regardless of how *nice* they are. In fact they seem to like the abusive and dark triad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:05 AM
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This guy cries “strawman argument” any time someone makes a point, Yes, a point that nobody made that you can easily knock down. Or in other words: a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:00 AM
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I highly disagree with every thing your saying. Great. What's new? You're disagreeing with observable reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:00 AM
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It means that you rejected the introduction of useful information. And are *bragging* about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:57 AM
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I'm the only woman in my family who isn't a tradcon, so I was raised in an environment that was essentially red pill. Thankfully it never took, "I had the opportunity to learn about the world but thankfully I repelled it!" LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:26 AM
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So you agree that attraction is more complex than being nice? This is what *we* have been saying all along and I presume what red pill says: women are lying when they say they want nice guys. Attraction is first and foremost. Nothing else matters. Somehow you've convinced yourself that you've disagreeing with us when you're literally upholding every single thing we've said. And you also agree that rejecting a particular nice guy doesn’t mean that women aren’t interested in nice guys but that thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:22 AM
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What are you not understanding. Nothing that you're saying obviously. I can reject nice guy A because I don’t feel attraction to him but I can say yes to nice guy B because I am attracted and he also has the same hobby as me So attraction is what matters. Breaking news! Woman says exactly what we've been saying but still insists that we're wrong! More at 10pm!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:08 AM
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I'm apparently hurting *you* with the truth here. Don't worry about me sweetheart. I'm fine. What you should be concerned with is how utterly clueless you are about the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:05 AM
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Double strawman! Pathetic lack of intelligence and/or ability to articulate an actual point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:04 AM
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I don’t get it. We know. It's obvious. I think most women would agree to the statement that they are not automatically attracted to any guy who is good or nice No, that's not the claim. The claim is that they *want* nice guys. They don't because of what you said: they want the hot guy first and foremost. If they say they are not interested in this particular guy what’s the lie? What I just said: The lie is that they claim to want nice guys. But we all know that they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:00 AM
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Strawman! It's pathetic how inarticulate women are in these spaces. It's just one long slog of strawmen and non sequiturs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:58 PM
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It's the worst thing a guy can hear. But better to know the truth then be shielded from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:56 PM
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It makes you bitter and you're obsessed with it so it's definitely true. But nothing you've said here constitutes a single argument against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:55 PM
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loool don’t get me started on the nonsense you hear about body counts A woman trying to deny that men don't want whores. Shock! Awe!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:53 PM
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So a women has to accept every good man? How does that work with keeping the n count low? Right away with the strawman. Typical. No, just don't lie about wanting them. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:53 PM
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It explains reality. Women fight it tooth and nail because it threatens their leverage. If men behave accordingly then women won't be able to lie about their wants and desires without consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:51 PM
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I’m a girl lmao… Well, duh. In a long term relationship with one of the kindest people I’ve ever met So? I’ve rejected “good guys” in the past, but not bc they were good, but bc of the other reasons I mentioned above. Almost as if women lie about wanting good men but only if they're attractive and ambitious first. Yeah, and? Was never anything personal. You’re just either into someone or you’re not. Again, you're not making any points. You're the perfect encapsulation of the women we talk about …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:50 PM
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No woman has ever rejected someone for being a good man. Ok, so you're just a delusional simp. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:35 PM
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Red pill is just the truth. It's not difficult. It just explains how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:34 PM
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Which is nearly all men. Again, a women saying something doesn't exist and then confirming that it indeed exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:13 PM
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She said the" 80/20 is nonsense!" Then said that, well, "the vast majority of men are undatable!" An exact refutation of her initial point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:29 PM
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The problem is nature, obviously. And unless something changes it'll be everybody's problem to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:51 PM
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Thus is life. Women want all the benefits of being a man without any of the responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:07 PM
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Male nature is different than female nature. This shouldn't even be hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:00 PM
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That’s not true It is. You're just lying to yourself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:47 PM
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Says an "instragram model" LOL. Not at all transactional there, huh, honey?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:21 PM
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Average women are idealizing men and so they want better than average. That's sorta a main point of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:17 PM
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This comment is probably just a verbal manifestation of the 80/20 rule. I bet a lot of those guys were perfectly decent guys, they just weren’t top tier guys so you felt disgusted by them and now you feel the need to talk shit about them on reddit. Once again they prove the thing they're trying to disprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:10 PM
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LOL. Exactly. They always seem to prove things that they're trying to refute. Comical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:07 PM
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You should ask and listen to both. You should not listen to women on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:01 PM
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It's totally accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:01 PM
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Lol you beautifully explained the 80-20 rule by arguing against it Right. Her OP makes no sense in that it totally validates 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:34 PM
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Primitive man had the institution of marriage? Care to provide evidence for that? It's clear that you don't read anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:46 AM
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It actually is. Even ancient primitive man understood innately the need for it. That's as good an argument for "nature" as you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:49 PM
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I've lost track of the number of prominent men who've claimed that their wives turned them down the first couple of times they tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:31 PM
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After taking note of the way you interact with other women on this sub, I don't see any reason to entertain further comments Typical. When faced with simple truths that conflict with your worldview you just run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:17 PM
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How am I changing the subject? You said "societal construct," and I explained what that actually means. By playing word games to avoid admitting that marriage is kinda something that's been around forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:11 PM
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Reiterating a proven truth about the world certainly *is* fixing whatever claptrap you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:47 PM
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Christ. This sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:53 PM
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What you observe in nature doesn't match what studies observe in nature. So there are studies that say men want to marry whores? Please provide those. You mean male selection criteria, right? No, female. Women are the ones who select. A high n-count woman is choosing the highest quality men and hoping she can get them to commit. She can't and so she has a high-n count when other men choose against marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:19 PM
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How is it subject changing when the subject was marriage? You're trying to skate on a technicality. I'm gonna start calling you OJ. And who says there was even a past-equivalent version in the first place? Because there just was? You think ancient people didn't understand the trade? That's where it began!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:00 PM
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Yeah, it's just an observation of reality. You can deny it if you'd like. Nobody is forcing you to accept the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:58 PM
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Ok where is that evidence ? What is the logic behind it ? Are you serious? You need evidence to prove something so obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:57 PM
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K. And the guys that would rather have a trapped captive than a full partner are dumb. LOL. This sub is full of some really deluded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:56 PM
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breaking news - people who are more confident finding and getting into new relationships less likely to stick around when relationship no longer working. More at 11 Bob No, women who have been around a lot have a harder time making their relationships work or being satisfied. There. Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:55 PM
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that height shit is only real online Ridiculous. Another lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:54 PM
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Since I never said "that's how I feel" you're employing a strawman. Observable nature is my argument. Female selection criteria is my argument. If you don't know this stuff then that's not my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:53 PM
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Queue the technical word salad that's employed to obfuscate and change the subject. Women locking down a man to provide and protect while she's pregnant is not a societal construct. We just call it marriage today.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:50 PM
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Dude just stop, your post history says enough. You're being hysterical now because you can't refute what I said. What she said was indecipherable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:48 PM
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Because observable nature is the exact opposite of what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:45 PM
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Marriage didn’t even exist 5000 years ago. Now you've moved on to subject-changing technicalities. Whatever the equivalent version of offering resources and protection in exchange for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:43 PM
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The entire thing is a giant word salad. Completely vapid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:27 PM
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Ok? Look at the title of the post, the pretext is obviously about men. Y'all just be finding shit to get angry about, and your post history confirms it, just constant whining about women I read every word of what she said and it has nothing to do with the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:26 PM
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I'll respond to tell them that they're lying if that's indeed the case, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:25 PM
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One of the funniest things about this sub is the requirement for "data" when talking about simple human nature. It's almost parody at this point. One of the funniest things about this sub is the requirement for "data" when talking about simple human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:19 PM
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An opinion isn’t wrong just because you disagree with it Right, it's wrong because it's wrong. Has nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:16 PM
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I agree that it's completely societal, however, although most things that humans do are. Women getting married in order to bear children is not a societal construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:15 PM
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Point me to where “human biology” says that women need to be married. Marriage itself isn’t even a biological concept smart guy. It’s completely societal. And women got along just fine before it existed. Women want to get married and have kids. Simple as that. It's a biological imperative. Queue the anomalies and exceptions!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:14 PM
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She didn't use the word man one time in her word salad response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:52 PM
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You're wrong. But that's Ok. You're allowed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:50 PM
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I don't know and don't care. It's true regardless of what sub it's discussed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:49 PM
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I actually don’t understand this concept at all. Yeah, we know. You talk to women just to accuse them of lying? No, I'm just here making statements. If someone wants to disagree (mostly women) then I'll respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:48 PM
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I do believe that women are much more comfortable being single than a lot of guys realize. And I agree that this idea of every woman “desperately longing to get married eventually” is probably just male copium/revenge fantasy. Human biology is now copium/revenge fantasy. This sub, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:35 PM
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You are saying women want to marry up but don't do it because they settle ? Yes. Women will settle for the best they can get at some point because they want a family/kids. But make no mistake: when they are at their peak they were trying to get the tallest, richest, best-looking guy and they still pine for that guy to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:33 PM
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First I want to be clear that hypergamy is rarely practiced today Stopped reading after this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:30 PM
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This is such a good answer. They didn't even answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:27 PM
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You shouldn’t talk in these terms. There are no consequences because you do not intend to harm them, you are just opting out of something. This is ridiculous. The consequence is that far fewer men will consider them as a long-term mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:13 PM
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No one's complaining. Women can fuck who they want but there's consequences to their actions. This. Women want all the benefits of being a man but none of the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:11 PM
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A man's revulsion at a promiscuous woman as is wife is subconscious. One of the problems with this sub is that people think that all of these things are conscious decisions when they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:11 PM
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Because they constantly claim otherwise. So I tell them that they're lying. Not difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:07 PM
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:) the issue is, you are wrong with your "feeling" about human nature. Another trait of this sub. Claim that scientific and biological truths are "feelings."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:06 PM
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Ok great. So who are they selecting that you can see with your eyes? The opposite of the safe, sane, consensual, sober and stable men. How about you demonstrate by doing a non identifying blurb on your closest 5 coupled neighbours? Should be dead easy right? I have mentally done mine - shockingly mine appear remarkably similar in socioeconomic background, education level and outward appearance. I’m confident in that as I know all 5 couples very well. This is just non-sensical babble that proves …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:57 PM
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Always. Men are not allowed to do anything, really, when it comes to women. If you believe their words then you get burned. If you judge them by their actions you're a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:55 PM
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I'm not assuming. I'm actually observing this behavior. So in that case you'd agree with me? Nah, probably not. You'd come up with some other nonsense excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:53 PM
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LOL. It's perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:52 PM
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It's Ok. You can be delusional and defensive on behalf of all women. Us men will just continue to observe and not listen to anything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:51 PM
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This is really stupid. Scientific polling doesn't poll every person on Earth. It takes a random representative sample. I've observed enough women, have friends who've done the same, and know enough about human nature to confidently state that what I've said is true for the general female population. But you keep pushing those outliers so you never have to admit the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:50 PM
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I guess I should wait until you learn to read and comprehend first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:48 PM
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A double standard is perfectly reasonable regarding two different things. Not difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:24 PM
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I don't think. I know. And that's because I observe how women behave. I don't have to listen to lies told by biased women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:23 PM
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Typical clown response. I never claimed to. I just work with the generalities and majorities. If people want to sell the exceptions then they can do to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:22 PM
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Nobody. It's observable in nature. Don't ever listen to what women say. Watch what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:21 PM
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See, you're paying attention. These other people merely take a woman's word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:46 PM
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Stop judging by the exceptions. It's so silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:45 PM
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Women do want those things. We know that they don't because we can see with our eyes who they select.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:45 PM
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Because it's the exception. Men judge by the rules. Women judge by the exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:44 PM
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I speak from the perspective that I've seen many guys who want their women with a low n count. Bit of a double standard. Yeah, it's almost like men and women are two different things. Crazy!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:31 PM
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SAfe, sane, consensual, sober, stable All very reasonable and fruitful in a relationship. Unfortunately women don't actually want those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:28 PM
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No, you're clearly labeling having standards as shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:27 PM
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You are free to provide ANY data for your argument One of the funniest things about this sub is the requirement for "data" when talking about simple human nature. The people around here are so clueless that they don't even understand the simple concept that men don't want to marry whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:26 PM
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Because women lie and virtue signal all the time. Don't take a woman's word for it. Judge them by their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:25 PM
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My standard is to not try to wife up promiscuous women. Only clowns who don't understand basic human conditioning think it's shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:24 PM
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Absolutely women want men who make more. I believe in hypergamy. But in western society, money matters less to women because they have the ability to make their own money. Again, completely wrong. Women *still* want men who make more than them. So the more money women make the *less* viable partners there will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:48 PM
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Also, let’s be real, majority of men aren’t making enough money to provide shit. No, most men don't make enough to *satisfy* their hypergamous wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:47 PM
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It's nonsense lip service.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:46 PM
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If you read this sub and conclude that *men* are the ones who can't self-analyze then you're just stupid. Guys like him are the quintessential simp/beta. Placating women for their unreasonable (but biological) selection criteria. Women are the gatekeepers. Therefore, the vast majority of issues with relationships are based on women's wants/needs. This is simple stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:44 PM
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Then please be so kind and interpret the number of mate dollars spent on "Chastity" trait by western men. Excuse me, what? What the hell is a chastity trait? Men care about a woman's past. Period. It's crazy how little women understand about men. Like shockingly low levels of understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:42 PM
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Like you're some shining light? Never said I was. But I can see that you're already resorting to strawmen. Just one look at your profile, and it's evident just how hurt and miserable your existence is. What do you have to show for your existence currently? I'm not you. So that's a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:40 PM
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LOL. So alpha/beta are right-wing tropes. You are irredeemably lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:39 PM
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Waiting for you to make your first point, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:38 PM
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So men aren't allowed to have simple standards? Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:36 PM
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What I noticed is that women want to be able to do whatever they want and not have any consequences for it 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:01 PM
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Exactly. Women lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:47 PM
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It's a minority of men who care for sexual past Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:47 PM
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The simplest concept in the world to understand and yet we've got people fighting tooth and nail to deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:46 PM
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Why is this so hard to understand? I swear women detest accountability and responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:44 PM
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I don't even know why I'm here myself. I guess it's to remind me that I, as a man, turned out alright. Beta clown. Sorry, dude, they're still not going to give you a sympathy fuck merely because you agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:35 PM
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It's just insecure men projecting their issues onto women. That's all it's ever been. The ridiculous and delusional takes by some on this sub are just crazy. Not wanting to wife up a whore is an insecurity. It's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:33 PM
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Extremely insecure and incelish way of thinking. But mostly true which is why you immediately went to the incel attack. So typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:29 PM
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I think this is true where the man is already desirable at a young age. The idea that an undesirable man somehow becomes desirable as he ages is not in line with reality Men gain wealth, resources, status, wisdom, etc. with age. Those are attractive to women. So you're wrong, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:57 PM
1

What they're interested in is having a wife that loves them and is sexually attracted t o them. Not simply being married because "uGlY GuYS hAVE wIvEs TOo!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:30 PM
4

Thank you Finally somebody who's reasonable and not hysterical whining about "no wall!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:32 PM
5

Salty woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:29 PM
14

Yes, in other words: men have to create value. Women have to maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:29 PM
0

That average men are tired of your platitudes that "ugly men get married and have kids all the time!" It's so stupid and has become a meme on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:27 PM
1

Yet I'm the clueless one. As demonstrated, yes. But please keep trying to play amateur psychologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:26 PM
0

Who's moaning? I'm explaining something to you. You're under no obligation to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:26 PM
1

Again, nobody said otherwise. I just have to conclude that you're clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:22 PM
1

I'm a dude, so for me, this isn't an issue, but rather a simple understanding that makes my life go on easy mode. You're just clueless, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:22 PM
-1

Ok let's run with that. Women have high standards. Is that EVERY woman on the face of the earth? Or all Western women? What fraction are we speaking of? Great. Another "DoN'T GEneRALizE WoMEn!" poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:29 PM
2

I didn't deny it's truth. Just it's relevance. Ugly men get married? Great! But not something men are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:28 PM
2

Good grief. Such nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:25 PM
-2

This makes no sense. He literally said in this OP that women have high standards and they're hard to meet. How does you asking what he brings to the table refute that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:07 PM
0

Agreed. The issue is that we can admit it when we see it but you can't when the opposite (blaming men for everything) occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:05 PM
1

Get out in the real world, many many many average as fuck men with average as fuck wealth, average as fuck personality and average as fuck looks have girlfriends. Quickly becoming an unironic trope on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:04 PM
1

I'm saying that men value sex a lot in a relationship and if this is news to anybody then those people are clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:31 PM
0

You should have sex as soon as possible because if that doesn't work than nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:58 PM
3

LOL. This sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:42 PM
3

Because she's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:41 PM
1

So a very minor reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:07 PM
2

So telling them straight up won't get them to leave you alone but *not* telling them and leading them on.....will get them to leave you alone? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:26 PM
1

What's the point of keeping it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:20 PM
1

It gets cluttered with 2-3 Maddies, 3-4 Nicoles, etc. Clear the clutter. No point in keeping the numbers of dead ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:19 PM
1

What's not civil about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 04:55 PM
2

There are plenty of women who cheat because they just find the guy attractive. There are plenty of men who cheat because they are unhappy with their relationship. It’s sad how people make assumptions about cheaters based on their gender. Peak PPD right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:44 PM
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Plenty of 30+ women marry men in their thirties and forties. Again terrible advice. "Wait until your 30+ years and marry older men who are likely not as high value. Plenty of women do it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:15 AM
1

I’m not insinuating anything. majority of men 30+ don’t think 30 is too old for a women. that doesn’t mean anything other than what it says dude, why are you having issues understanding that? The only person having issues here is you. You keep claiming that it's a conscious choice who men are attracted to. No, it's not. They will gravitate towards the best looking and those are *not* going to be over 30 very often. majority of men 30+ are not exluding 30 yr old women from their searches because …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:36 PM
1

The fact that you don't think that's serious is more proof of the delusional nature of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:34 PM
1

You keep insinuating that it's conscious. Men are going to turn their heads for the best-looking women. They're likely not going to be 30+ years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:56 PM
-1

The initial attraction is not a conscious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:32 PM
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It matters to you then I guess. And that's fine. But your way of thinking doesn't reflect everyone's view on this matter. I may be wrong, but in that case, so are you. This sub is summarized perfectly by this post. Lying to women Claiming that "not all people agree" Babbling word salad at the end
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:27 PM
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Don't tell a woman that age doesn't matter when it clearly does. If you're asking this question then you're clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:19 PM
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Ladies at 22ish have peak hotness. But at 32 you're maybe up to one standard devation down... like maybe 10% of your sexual value has decayed. So if you were a 10, maybe you're a 9 or 8.5. That's some fuzzy math. It's more than 10% brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:16 PM
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Teenage boys/20s will. the rest dont Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:13 PM
-14

I would say that age doesn't matter, it's how you approach life. Please don't tell anybody that because it's bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:12 PM
2

It's all just straw men here 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:11 PM
-1

Only because they know it will matter to the woman even if it's subconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:58 PM
2

Women want all the benefits of being a man without any of the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:30 PM
2

A giant strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:29 PM
0

Girls being 100% hypergamous. But this dishonest. Saying that women are hypergamous is not to say that *all* women are or that they're 100% hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:28 PM
5

We agree that you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:27 PM
3

hypergamous women exist. women are not automatically hypergamous. both can be true. Everything here is right except the first and last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:25 PM
1

Maybe you could just answer the question I did. You are just an outlier but mistakenly claimed to disagree instead. Want me to post it a 4th time?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:22 PM
1

Fucking hell you really get upset by people replying to you on here. When it's dumb, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:20 PM
1

The rate of increase has basically been flat in recent months. The vast majority of that 8% was in a short period of time. But thanks for wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:30 PM
-1

And that's based on what? That you're mistaking your preferences for *men* in general. You disagreed when in reality you're just an outlier. Your anecdotal evidence that somehow trumps my anecdotal evidence because reasons? Because given your posts that I've read you're sheltered and don't actually have majority experiences. Again, why do your anecdotes trump mine? Your experiences are abnormal. But maybe you can ask me the same question in a 3rd different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:28 PM
2

But it hasn't been 8% every year, think tank.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:26 PM
2

Do you think I'm talking about inflation of the last few years or that that grew for literally half a century? Yes, because otherwise would be weird and irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:25 PM
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I disagree No, you're just an outlier. Unless by average you mean a guy with no options who will date anyone that can tolerate him. Ya, he'll date anyone. I mean average as in the average of all men. You're an outlier. That's OK. But you're in the cast minority and clearly don't interact with normal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:23 PM
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Ya, I just roll my eyes every time I see those posts or hear it irl. I heard it a lot more when I was younger, less so as I get older so I'm pretty sure the people who post it here don't have any real world experience lol No, you're just not the average man. The average man, courting a woman, is not concerned with her income or career. That may be a thing *later* if you want to marry her but no normal guy is filtering for income and career when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:35 PM
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It feels like one income, though, because inflation So 8% inflation is costing you half your income? LOL. What nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:31 PM
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I heard a lot of guys saying that her degree, job and earning do not matter, all that matters is her looks. So post wall women are supposed to be trash. What guys say is that they don't care what a woman does or how much money she makes which is true. It has no bearing on our attraction to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:30 PM
2

It's certainly true that you want us to stop saying it, yes, but that doesn't have any inherent value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:21 PM
1

life it’s the perfectly even and fair it never been or will be so why complain about it? Another common response on this sub now when a part of female nature is explained is to tell people to stop saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:30 PM
12

Fat men also date and marry. Not to be cliche but go to Walmart. This is quickly becoming the hackiest cliche on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:26 PM
1

And we're all happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:11 PM
2

Does she? Yes. This is a hallmark of modern dating. Women having ridiculous standards because society, and one-night stands, have convinced them that they can. How is she throwing her life away by making the best of her options? What is she losing out on, exactly? Holding out for a guy that she has no chance of locking down and ignoring average guys who would marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:10 PM
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Proof they were alcoholics? Mind blowing if true. I didn't say they were alcoholics. But it's a fact that they went to strip clubs and drank in the months before 9/11. I can’t wrap my mind around believing in God and both KNOWINGLY and UNREPENTANTLY commiting the same sin on a regular basis. That's great but it has nothing to do with your ridiculous claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:08 PM
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It’s not a strawman. You literally said every person you ever heard give that opinion was a wimp while devating on an online forum with strangers. It’s obviously you’re just responding from an emotional pov So now you're showing that you don't know what a strawman is. I said that everybody I know who has that particular hang-up is a wimp. You proceed to say that anybody who disagrees with me must be a wimp. That's not what I said. That's a strawman because you have no retort and are struggling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:07 PM
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But that's not how the world works. The "4" thinks she can get a "7" man and has delusional standards because of it. She can throw her life away if she wants. Doesn't matter to me. But it *is* objectively delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:01 PM
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Sure, anyone with a different opinion than yours is a wimp. Strawman!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:55 PM
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It’s pretty based. It's nonsense and basically absolves religions of blame for any behavior that might be embarrassing to it's adherents. For instance, the 9/11 hijackers went to strip clubs and drank heavily. Were they not true Muslims despite the fact that they crashed planes into building while screaming Allahu Akbar?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:54 PM
-1

So if someone wants a financially equitable relationship, they hate women? Around here? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:49 PM
-4

They're probably more attracted to the red pill guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:42 PM
1

This is totally illogical. A standard can either be reasonable or not. The fact that a "7" guy might fuck a "4" woman on a given night doesn't mean that the "4" can reasonably bag a "7" man. The delusional nature of modern women is perfectly echoed in your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:39 PM
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Accusing me to making things up is not an argument, lol. It just so happens to be true in this case. Let me explain, I am a woman and I know a lot of women very well. "Let me lie to you about female nature, now." Yes, I have discovered hypergamous tendencies in some women. It is just not very prevalent and it's also easily detectable. And here's the lie. So really it is simple, if you don't want a hypergamous partner, don't choose a hypergamous partner. Thanks for the bad advice that totally isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:23 PM
1

Which is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:20 PM
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the underlying assumption with a lot of these arguments is the 30s man is sexually experienced/a bad person with bad intentions. Yes, the underlying assumption is that the 30 year old man has all the power as well. Both are insidious lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:19 PM
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Why acting so defensive? Says the guy who won't answer the question but keeps coming back for more. If you don’t want your stance challanged or don’t want to hear people with different opinions, avoid public discussion forums and find a safe space. Again, the irony of the dodger above claiming that other people should find a safe space when he's the pussy who won't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:17 PM
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old enough. Nobody believes you. i’m js this had nothing to do with the OP but suddenly it’s women bad with no objectivity. I never said women were bad either. I simply said women behaved a certain way. You don't like it so you complain and tell me to stop saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:15 PM
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So what’s the issue? Why say it but not accept it? Just seems passive aggressive. If I accept the sky is blue, it’s blue whatever, I’m only going to argue it’s purple if I want others to soothe my ego and tell me it’s blue. The issue is to tell the truth. Tell other men so they understand and act accordingly. If a women hears it then it's probably just a fluke since we know that they'll never accept it. And how is it passive aggressive? It's right directly in your face. There's nothing passive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:02 PM
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This is probably the dumbest take/argument here this week. and that’s saying something since all yesterday was dudes trying to convince themselves not to but for a month. Another coping mechanism for being a beta. When I call you stupid I can at least articulate why. When you do it then it's just a tantrum because you know you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:56 PM
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It's basically about women and beta men trying to deny nature. Women look best at about 21 years old. Men look best at about 30 years old and even older. Trying to reduce nature to fetishes is just a shaming mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:53 PM
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you can say it all u want but don’t act like women are bad when men are bad too. How old are you? You can't refute a single thing I say so you just yell at me to stop saying it. It's pathetic. Nobody said men aren't bad. I think that usually goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:52 PM
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No, I find that the majority of the time women disagree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:50 PM
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Hypergamy is overrated Only if you have no idea what it is or want to diminish it's relevance. Women are normally happy to, and even prefer to date within their socio-economic class. A totally made-up thing that you just came up with. Women prefer to date the best according to their rigid standards. They may end up with someone of the same class because that's the best they could get to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:48 PM
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Don't worry. Your insults don't wound me. I know I'm living in reality and you're in denial. So no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:45 PM
1

Nobody says you have to listen. And we know given this sub that you won't!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:44 PM
1

Women no longer need to pretend to be attracted to a man in order to eat. Good. They'd rather make their own money have sex with men they actually find attractive. This is not unreasonable. Who said it was? You're changing the subject because your initial post was so stupid and inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:42 PM
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I can read your silly posts on this sub and get a pretty good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:41 PM
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Why are you so sure of this so-called “truth”? Experience and observe life and read a lot from other people as well. It also helps to have a basic understanding of human nature. You’re telling women what their nature is and dismissing any disagreement with “women are delusional, or virtue signalling” or whatever. That is not logical - though you probably think it is. It's totally logical to understand that women don't act logical. Divorcing over money is not the whole story - and it doesn’t foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:40 PM
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Every man that's ever existed is attracted to 21 year olds. So ergo you think every man is a fetishist. Don't get mad at me because your claims are objectively stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:33 PM
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Why is that too bad for me? You're "principally" opposed to men getting with younger women if they can. I wasn’t looking for girls that had their first beer or still in college when I was working and had my own stuff. Again, who says they're looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:32 PM
1

This happens so infrequently that I would be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:29 PM
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Men will seek sexual variety by nature but rarely will they seek to end their relationship over it. Women will end relationships because they don't "feel" it anymore. i’m not denying women are hypergamous, im just saying stop throwing rocks from ur glass house. "What you're saying is true but just stop saying it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:29 PM
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Also just use some common sense. If you always were egalitarian, why would she start respecting or desiring you less due to equal labor division years after? Because it's not a conscious choice. It's nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:21 PM
-1

If you’re right, then my marriage is fucked. Good luck, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:20 PM
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Of course it does because it has to in order for you to feel good about this interaction. You get to deny reality and insult someone else. Two checks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:19 PM
1

These kind of responses are proof that you're losing this debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:18 PM
2

If you are an old guy looking and lusting at women purely for their looks and youth it’s a fetish So every man in history is a fetishist? Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:00 PM
2

Women get mad because it reminds them they're considered hottest at 23, which makes the young women angry and the older women angrier. Shits not actually creepy. Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:58 PM
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Because it’s the principle behind looking for someone with less experience that went to prom last month while you’ve been doing adult shit for 7+ years. Race or sexual orientation has no influence on that. Who says they were looking? They saw an attractive woman at a bar and approached. She may be 21. Too bad for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:55 PM
0

So men's fault again? Darn it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:53 PM
5

Yes, that's exactly what he and what the women in this sub are telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:49 PM
3

You tell me This is how we know that you're not here in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:47 PM
2

I hate this conspirational tone red pill men take. As if they're revealing some kind of scared mystery to women when they say Chad won't commit. They know... It only seems like a scared mystery because people like you deny it's existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:44 PM
1

Exactly. The OP completely misstated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:37 PM
2

Traditionally, men were more workhorses than studs and their abilities as providers mattered more than anything. Now, men demand actual sexual attraction and initiative from women and get bitter when women's preferences are revealed to be that which they've always been. I think you're misstating it. The demand is that men not settle for being *just* the beta bucks after their wives are done with the alpha fucks. Men are perfectly willing to still be workhorses and providers as long as the previo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:37 PM
-4

She sees you as less masculine. Studies prove that the more a man helps around the house the less sex there is in the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:32 PM
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Oh yes obviously this man knows women's nature better than women Again, obvious. Women lie about their nature all the time. it's why you're so successful and happy in your romantic relationships right? No, it's why I'm clear-eyed and rational in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:23 PM
0

Arguably yours is just another mechanism when you don't get what you want. Like most people I sometimes get what I want and sometimes I don't. What I'm posting here is just the truth regardless of which side I came out on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:21 PM
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This is such a bleak view of women Again, we're not here to give you hope. We're here to give you truth. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen LOL. This sub. but it is demonstrably not a very common occurrence for women to just up and leave a good man and a good relationship because there are other men in the vicinity who have more money or status How do you know this? Women initiate divorces a lot for many reasons. Money being the #1 reason. There’s always more impressive people around most of us - …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:19 PM
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But, that is why people also talk about power imbalances, Dumb people, yes. People have more "problems" when someone who is 30 is with someone who is 20, than someone who is 40 is with someone who is 30. When someone who is 50 is with someone who is 40, nobody even bats an eye. There's no power imbalance. This is only talked about when the woman is younger because the younger party is giving up *their* power. The whole idea that young women have no power is so insanely stupid and counter- factua…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:14 PM
1

do you believe that if a man is introduced to a hotter/better woman he would not jump on it? There certainly would be single cases of it but as a rule? No. In general, men are more "satisfactory" selectors whereas women are more about "ideal" selections.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:10 PM
0

I obviously don't know how *your* relationship works and never claimed to. But I do understand female nature better than you and that's obvious given this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:08 PM
2

Yes. Women are dishonest about these things and will deny something if they feel that it's unflattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:07 PM
2

Yet another coping mechanism for PPDs women when they don't like something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:06 PM
2

You just seem to be making excuses on why people can't be in happy healthy relationships. I'm guessing you're not. Feels like projection. I'm explaining female nature and you don't like it. Don't worry. That's typical around here. A decade together? Still happy. Sorry you're not. Good for you. That's anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:23 PM
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This discussion is not about married couples. So you're wrong on the merits and you're mistaken on the subject. Selection biases. Young people go to school with young people, etc. The older people get, or the more they step out of their rigid social circles, the higher the age gaps become.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:22 PM
0

Making more money doesn't necessarily make a man better than other men. Agreed. But it's not a conscious decision that a women makes. It's subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:20 PM
0

Great. He still has a chance. You seem to be struggling with the fact that this stuff is subconscious. You think women consciously decide to be unhappy and/or unsatisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:18 PM
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You think a famous, multi-millionaire, multi-instrumentalist is an example of not having to be better? Yes, because none of that stuff matters to men. This is a common thing that women do: they think that acting like men will be attractive to men. Wrong. A fat male rapper can plausibly claim to be a high value male because he has money, status and power which are attractive to women. Lizzo is not a high value woman because she's 300+ pounds and has a shitty attitude. That stupidity aside, what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:10 PM
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Is it a viable strategy as in "it could happen"? sure. Is it a viable strategy as in "does it have high chances of happening"? hell no. You're still wrong but keep putting your head in the ground. I don't know about your social circle, but all throughout college, and then moving between 3 jobs (I am now in my early 30s), I can count the amount of 10+ years I know of on 1 finger. The same reason that you think they are rare is the same reason why you never see them personally. Cognitive dissonanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:07 PM
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Let that be the case then. We have no other choice since that's the reality of female nature. You’re doing exactly what the post is saying making excuses and blaming women. Because it's female nature. I always love when a woman basically agrees with that we say but then immediately moves to "stop blaming women!" If men are good being angry at women and being single that’s fine, quit crying about it then Then the next move: "Even if it's true stop saying it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:03 PM
-1

Because you're a woman and sub-consciously you will lose love/respect for your husband if he's not better than other men in your sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:01 PM
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Basically, it's not in the favor of women so it's icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:42 PM
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but it's not a common enough think that men should consider the "i'll wait till I am 30 and hook up with 20 year old girl" strategy a very viable one It actually is. Just because you don't like what the OP says doesn't mean that you can try to "bothsides" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:40 PM
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If you think so then you're not good at understanding syllogisms. This thread is about men who are not willing to put in the work to be better. The flip side of that is that women never have to be better. They can be Lizzo and we are expected to think that she's perfect the way she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:42 PM
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This thread and this sub. Do you read anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:40 PM
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Income and hypergamy are very much related. Maybe she shouldn't say something so silly as if she made a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:02 PM
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Because her point was stupid. "Women date the guys that they see!" Yeah, no shit. But if he is introduced to someone perceived as better then she will jump on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:50 PM
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LOL. Ok, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:45 PM
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Well, it seems like people are just wanting and not actually doing. Because the opportunity hasn't presented itself yet. but if it isn't affecting how they date, what does it actually matter in this context? It will affect them the moment a better option comes around. What kind of question is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:45 PM
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Good for you. I'm sure most women do when the marry someone. But the claim that "don't worry loser men! I see losers with wives all the time!" is really stupid and not what men are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:44 PM
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Mostly nonsense. Yes, she likely can't get him but if she *could* she would. This is simple stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:20 PM
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The truth of it is that most people date within their class. This is a common take around here and it always misses the point. Hypergamy is regarding a woman *wanting* the best. She may be dating a guy in her class right now but is yearning for better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:18 PM
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It's actually less than 5% but you're not addressing the point. It's a real thing that lesbian women don't deal with women who claim to be bisexual because they're usually just into guys and will dabble in threesomes if available.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:12 PM
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It's conjecture to say they do even though all of our human experience and common sense says they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:00 PM
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Lazy and nothing to say. Wonderful combo! I'm sure a man is just waiting to lock you up!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:56 AM
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I'm merely substituting happiness for satisfaction. They're both increasingly hard to find in a marriage especially with women. As for your silly question: men want steady pussy and marriage has been a way, for thousands of years, to get it. Men are not complicated. Women are impossibly complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:44 AM
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You're drifting into subject-change territory. The bottom line is this sub is an endless stream of women claiming that (insert truth about the world) doesn't matter because ugly/broke/weak men are getting married. As if getting married but then being unattractive to your wife is the peak of the male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:42 AM
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Firstly, they won't be happy. But a lot of men who complain about women's preferences don't really care if she's happy anyway. This would be important if happiness actually mattered. But that's not the right word. Women are never satisfied which is even more difficult since happiness can somewhat be defined and measured. Satisfaction is always competing with the next best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:51 AM
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What's funny is not the irony. It's that women seem totally oblivious to it. We have to lie to ourselves and claim that Lizzo is desirable and sexy yet men have to constantly improve and get better to be good enough for these increasingly average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:30 AM
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I know fat guys that are married, short guys that are married, broke guys that are married etc. Improving yourself to improve your chances has nothing to do with luck. This is really dumb. I always hear women say something like: "The 80/20 rule is myth because ugly guys get married!" But their wives don't like them, love them, fuck them, etc. So because a guy has become fat and is no longer is attractive somehow the rules of nature don't exist? Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:27 AM
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The vast majority of women who want marriage and kids get them. The women who don’t are perfectly fine. This is patently ridiculous. Biology and nature are telling them to do something but if they don't = perfectly happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:40 AM
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Yes. Your idea of showing interest, to a guy, might seem tepid. Men deal with this stuff all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:38 AM
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Curious if you consider the BLM "protesters" burning down cities a fanatical domestic terrorist group? Name one city that was burned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:47 PM
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In fairness, women flake all the time with lines like that. Guys mostly feel like assholes if they call you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:42 PM
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If they're hot in their 20s, especially this day in age, they just roll on into their 30s looking hot as ever and making more effort and having more money to sometimes look even better. This is complete nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:09 PM
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But that, again, makes my point. The vast, vast majority of women aren't happy without at least one of the two (marriage, kids). So stop claiming that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:18 AM
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Exacty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:33 PM
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These women aren’t happily single, they’d just rather be single than date the leftover guys. And because women are earning as much or more than men now there are a lot more "leftover" men than desirable ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:32 PM
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Most of the single moms I know over 35 decided to stay single when their marriage ended, and I know a dozen or so women through professional circles who elected to have a child by donor and stay single by choice. But you see these situations don't count for the OPs example since those women *did* get married and had kids. They might be fine being single for the rest of their lives. But the idea that there are millions of single, unmarried and unmothered women out there who are perfectly happy is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:28 PM
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Its a rat race and I don't understand why men are so hell bent of making dating even more difficult but propelling women's insane expectations even further. Guys who do this shit as well as those who do outrageous photo ops for their proposals piss me off. Bending over backwards to raise the bar for themselves and everyone else. It's so try-hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:55 PM
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Women have given great advice when it comes to dating so I have no idea what you’re talking about. Said nobody ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:52 PM
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I’ve met quite a few that have declined to marry again at 50, 60, 70 seemingly preferring to life without re-marrying. The women are mostly divorced or the husband has died. Well, yeah they already had a marriage and kids, etc. I believe the OP is talking about those without husband/kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:37 PM
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I think if you had to choose whether male cognitive dissonance is a thing here or female cognitive dissonance then the latter would be the choice overwhelmingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:16 PM
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Of course getting laid only once in your life would be fucking terrible, but that's literally all that's needed to rebut OP's also absurd claim So you're just being disingenuous to "win" a point. Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:22 PM
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Considering how much this blatantly obvious notion is challenged on Reddit, I don't think it's too crazy to make a CMV post about it. Yeah, it's funny when people react that way given how much pushback that "simple" concept gets by women around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:54 PM
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Nope, it's pretty easy to google and find that the 95%+ figure of men who will get laid in their lifetime is correct. LOL. The chef's kiss of "one-ism."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:50 PM
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The fact that the men are bad is understood. The discussion is about the fact that men are incentivized to changed because their behavior is rewarded by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:57 PM
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Women aren't responsible for men's bad behavior though. Nobody said they were. The men were being blamed for being shit and the women were being blamed for their complicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:53 AM
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A balding man with a beer gut is his 40s is in no better dating situation than a visibly aging woman of the same age. But men are attractive to women for many other reasons and women are practically only attractive to men based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:43 AM
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Hmmm. I don't think dumping a man for bad behaviour and forcing change and self-reflection is a woman fixing a man You'll never convince them to accept any responsibility for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:36 AM
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That's definitely not what's happening. They're saying that men are acting poorly (blaming men) and that women are helping enable it (putting some blame on women). And women definitely never take responsibility for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:35 AM
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You are proving the point that men don’t understand women though. We understand completely. What are you not getting about that? No, she didn’t. You clearly don’t understand the variables. Lol Well, you're just dumb I guess. Or just being obtuse. You have no point. You're clearly just a teenager who only knows how to post lol a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:30 PM
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Difficult TO UNDERSTAND. Acknowledgement and understanding are two different things. If they’re difficult, that means you don’t understand it well. Sometimes the most obvious answer is the right one. Women are difficult. She didn’t deny the general rule. You just can’t see the other variables. She did. A generalization by nature accepts that variables exist. You basically demonstrated my point in this comment. As you have mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:09 PM
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Then why do men have problems understanding the general rule of it’s so applicable? Lol They don't. Men understand that women are difficult. And she didn’t deny that there’s a general rule. Of course there is. She’s saying that what’s under that rule is different for each individual and men will never understand women as long as they ignore this. So she tried to deny the general rule. Which is exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:56 PM
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This is such a cop out. Yep. Totally ridiculous attempt to tell us people are different when the general rules apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:38 PM
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I'm sorry but this is absurd. That movement is about stopping shaming people for their bodies, not trying to make men date women they aren't attracted to. You're going to need a strong citation for that one. If you don't think that men are shamed for saying that they're not attracted to fat women then you haven't been paying attention. The fact that you're asking for a citation is classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:32 PM
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Exactly. Women are only bicurious if the guy they're dating wants a threesome. Otherwise many of these bisexual women never actually date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:56 PM
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From what I’ve seen when I used to go out almost every weekend,a really attractive woman and an “ok” woman are sitting at the same table and a man walks up,8 times out of 10 he’s ignoring Ok or not showing her any signs he “wants” her or sees her as a sexual option,because his first and favorite option is already there. You ever see a guy approach two or three women and he’s clearly only into one of them and laughing extra loud at her jokes and completely facing her. Men will go for the one that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:24 PM
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