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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
2	CMV: TRP does not ruin marriages Nuhhuh, everything's always the woman's responsibility, and the woman's fault. Men are just mindless drones. Haven't you read the TRP sidebar?!	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/16 10:04 AM
-1	Why do women freak out when their SO is discovered reading TRP material, but it's ok for women to be reading everyfeminism, Jezebel or SJW tumblr pages? Which is why if a guy doesn't fit that narrative than it shouldn't matter if he has read trp, you can agree with TRP without fitting that narrative. If TRP fits their narrative, not if they fit TRP's narrative. There aren't all that many reasons to read TRP if it doesn't. If you find yourself agreeing with TRP, it's fitting your narrative. There are plenty (well, more than one) of TRPers who don't fit TRP's narrative, and who are members of groups that are consistently portrayed negatively by TR…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/15 01:25 PM
2	Why do TRPillers make rape fantasies such a big deal? As I remember, a radfem has managed to put those words into paper, which makes it closer to a feminist fanfic than canon. Sort of the same as saying that because a TRPer has called for the extermination of all women, that's TRP canon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/15 09:03 AM
1	Is there ever a legitimate reason for a woman to become a sex worker? silicon Silicon, you say? You sure you didn't mean silicone?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/15 08:53 AM
3	Why do women freak out when their SO is discovered reading TRP material, but it's ok for women to be reading everyfeminism, Jezebel or SJW tumblr pages? Basically hating all of Tumblr for the radfems yelling from the mountains of madness would be the same as hating all of Reddit for all the manosphere stuff in it. I don't go to Tumblr, but even I know that it's not full of people with interesting views.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/15 08:02 AM
-2	Why do women freak out when their SO is discovered reading TRP material, but it's ok for women to be reading everyfeminism, Jezebel or SJW tumblr pages? Emotions aren't like stds, you wont become misogynistic just from reading it Which is why TRP is chock full of misogynistic types because it fits their narrative. TRP didn't make them misogynists, it merely gave them a place to put their misogyny into words. And since TRP offers nothing new on the good advice front, it tends to fill itself with people with whom the bad parts resonate, since they didn't need it for the good advice. Many people don't want men to even read TRP ... because you can f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/15 07:56 AM
1	Question for redpillers: Why do some of you have such a problem with slutty women? Oh, yeah. Even in the case of the story, after the man to whose wiki entry I linked had been thought to be a "success", the same procedure was apparently forced on a number of other babies that had been assigned male at birth due to similar reasons. Of course, it's highly unlikely that all of them detransitioned and/or killed themselves (some probably were actually trans themselves considering that it was apparently sort of common at one point), just like some trans people likely learned to cope…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/15 06:19 AM
1	Question for redpillers: Why do some of you have such a problem with slutty women? giving estrogen pills to their little boys Actually, your particular idea has been tested and found to be a horrible, horrible mistake. Funny thing how you can't make a boy be a girl even if you surgically make him a vagina, feed him estrogen and force him to live as a girl. It also accidentally proved the existence of gender identity and gave extra legitimacy to trans people. You can't force a person to live as something they aren't without consequences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/15 09:41 PM
5	Q4BP: How can your subreddit be against hate speech when it's filled with so much hate? Of course, the problem with that point of view is that TRP and TBP don't exist on a spectrum of any kind. TBP as a concept in this silly pill business only exists because of the TRP claim of "everyone who isn't RP is BP". Plain and simple. Of course, I don't see where all these "non-insulting arguments" come from when one speaks of RP, considering how integral in their entire world view is the subhuman-ness of women. But then again, I guess you aren't a woman, so you wouldn't feel insulted on an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/15 06:59 PM
11	CMV: /r/TheBluePill, not /r/TheRedPill, is homophobic. I don't know, probably the in-depth and superbly detailed descriptions of other men's masculine bodies which are relatively common in TRP? The plethora of "I wish I were gay" posts caused by a deep-seated dislike towards women? The "men can give you everything that women can (except sex)" posts? And so on and so forth? Just a guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/15 10:32 PM
0	Banned from askmrp for "You are not entitled to sex with your wife." PPD, what do you think? So what you're basically saying is that we should leave the safe spaces meant for TRPers alone since we'll hurt their feelings by peddling "mainstream opinions", while TRPers complain about safe spaces for everyone else for being safe spaces and how everyone else shouldn't need them, and how those spaces should be "up for debate". Interesting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/15 05:52 AM
-1	Banned from askmrp for "You are not entitled to sex with your wife." PPD, what do you think? Yes indeed, don't go to a safe space for [group] if you don't belong in said group. That's what all these TRP things are, after all. Fairly reasonable, I'd say. Interesting thing, though, is that MRAs very often, including their subgroups like TRPs, think that it's okay for them to complain when they get banned from safe spaces for "debating issues" (which is usually basically telling people that they don't like their ways), but then think it's perfectly okay for them to do the same to others fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/15 05:41 AM
5	Q4BP: Provide Specific Examples of TRP Failures This is one of the problems inherent in "debating" TRP: Every time you see someone call them out on something, there's some weird hidden trick clause somewhere that exonerates them as a whole. "I see. NARPALT". It's the "wizard did it" of TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/15 11:33 PM
0	Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way? Considering that TRPers consider women to be subhuman based on what they actually put out, you would think there's a reason to be offended? I don't know, would you like being considered subhuman filth? As in, in all seriousness, by actual living, breathing human beings?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/15 11:19 PM
-1	Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way? Considering TRP is based on the idea of women needing to be forced into submission by any means necessary for your own benefit, I don't see why you are getting triggered so hard by people laughing at your safe space.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/15 11:13 PM
1	The quote that defines the blue/red clash Oh, yeah, but the things in TRP that you could sorta call "unique" don't really increase one's chances to do anything. Fitness, confidence and social skills are about as uniquely TRP as carbon is unique to human beings. Its particular brand of misogyny and the like, though, it only shares with a few other, ultimately similar things, if even with those. It's kind of like first building a perfectly good house and then, to make things more difficult, tearing holes in its roof.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 08:23 AM
1	The quote that defines the blue/red clash I was being facetious (dun dun dunn). Your point hit my funny bone in relation to the earlier claim that "TRP wouldn't be here if it didn't work," which is obvious bull. There are a lot of things that exist merely because there are people who want to believe in them, TRP being one of them. It's the same problem with a lot of PUAish things, really. They think doing thing X does Y, while it is much more likely that it does Z. Unlike what many TRPers think, TRP doesn't make people attracted to them…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 12:49 AM
4	The quote that defines the blue/red clash Indeed, if murder wasn't an effective way of getting rid of people you dislike, it wouldn't still be here!	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 12:20 AM
2	The quote that defines the blue/red clash There would be no point of this debate sub if we don't agree that TRP works. Ding, ding, ding! You have unlocked the "So close!" achievement, worth 10 points!	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 12:19 AM
4	Female strategic response to TRP & PUA If such an alternate approach existed and had any credible success It does exist, as proven by the continuing success of a far greater number of men who do not use TRP/PUA and still manage to garner the attention of women versus men who do use TRP/PUA. Of course, TRP/PUA would argue that these men use TRP/PUA "without knowing", except they don't. TRP/PUA is mimicry, not natural, after all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/15 09:22 AM
3	Female strategic response to TRP & PUA PUA/TRP gives women exactly what they want, as discovered through women's collective behavior. No. PUA/TRP gives women what a small collection of men think women want, and often bases it all on lies and deception. TRPers think women want alphas, and even have a concept of "natural alphas". TRPers aren't, by definition, these "natural alphas", as natural alphas would not need to use something like TRP. Thus, they aren't even what women want based on TRP's own ideas. This clay foundation might wor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/15 08:30 AM
6	Female strategic response to TRP & PUA 2 and 9 are not contradictory. You can desire exclusiveness, but only go with exclusiveness once both sides have agreed to be exclusive. 3 is not hypocritical. It merely removes a group of men who would not fit the paradigm (= are most likely faking it, MRAs or somesuch) from the pool of potential mates. Undesirables, if you will. What benefits women get from men following PUA/TRP? None. It's a big list of negatives with no positives, due to blatant lies and fakery. I doubt OP wants the outlined…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/15 12:52 AM
2	Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ? Psst! All romantic love is conditional. Show me a man who claims to love a woman unconditionally and I'll show you a person suffering from delusions. Unconditional love would mean accepting things like: abuse (physical and/or mental) cheating changing entirely as a person etcetera without batting an eye. ... You know, come to think of it, women who stay in abusive etc. relationships seem to be a whole bunch closer to having mastered "unconditional love" than the men who leave their "crazy girlfr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/15 04:39 PM
6	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Pitting men adn women against each other like dolls or characters in a play. Your entire premise is on the fact that men are more oppressed than women. I point out that men cause most of the oppression towards men (as well as women). You then proceed to make a complaint of this sort. Just because men have problems doesn't mean women's problems shouldn't be addressed as well. And vice versa. Feminism tackles both, even if men's problems are tackled as a sort of side effect. Men's rights and women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/15 12:07 PM
7	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Yes, I read that. Still, none of those things are extremely likely to happen unless you go looking for them in these times, or had the terrible misfortune of being born in a bad place. genocide Genocide however never seems to only affect men on the receiving end. It often does include men as the sole perpetrators of the act, however. Queer, how that works out. Considering the only places where the gender balance has been disturbed to a great degree are places where men outnumber women by assload…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 11:55 PM
7	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. TIL all kinds of lethal situations are "jobs". Yes, because "often" is the same as "all". But let us not forget that the "all" in AWALT isn't "all".	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 11:30 PM
14	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Yes, they have. Men are routinely put into hazardous situations because they are men. Those are often routinely called "jobs" which men never wanted women in the first place. Complain to other men if you find this unfair, it's not women's fault. Until recently, most times a place is conquered the men are killed. Also, armies die all the time. Most times a place was conquered, the men weren't really systematically killed. Except the soldiers. Because they were, you know, fighting a war. Which pre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 11:05 PM
2	Do redpillers think that a majority of heterosexual sex happens between most women but only a small minority of men? Doesn't really seem to care much for the whole "nature" thing, there. Since outside of that, I'm not too surprised. What with wars, harems and so on and so forth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/14 03:16 PM
10	Do redpillers think that a majority of heterosexual sex happens between most women but only a small minority of men? The closest thing to a source you'll get on this is the fact that 80% of females reproduce while only 40% of males do (in nature, where piles of BP shit isnt shoved down our throats). U wot, "in nature"? As in, humans, in nature? 80% of human females in nature reproduce while 40% of human males reproduce in nature? ... Oh, right, I see, you're using research cobbled together by the Stetson-Harrison institute! That explains everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/14 09:16 AM
2	Why is there a discussion? That was not the part I was referring to, mister super-logical-man of the land of Logic. Surely a man of your level of logic/rationality should have seen that. There is, however, a theory of projection being a thing; not being an actual defensive mechanism in its own right, but rather a byproduct of one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 07:37 AM
2	Why is there a discussion? Hey, you seem to be having a serious case of naïve realism going on! Better get that checked out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 06:29 AM
1	A woman's sex drive begins to plummet once she is in a secure relationship, according to research. Sorry, that is a thing I have never heard of. Not once. Well, okay, actually, I've now heard it once, from you. Still, considering that it is implied that both groups, the ones who have been in a 4 year long relationship and the ones that have not, are 30 years old, it's fair to assume that they are different people. The problem with that is, of course, that you can't really tell what is causing the difference in libido. Is it caused by others being in a relationship (the assumption made), or ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/14 03:23 AM
3	A woman's sex drive begins to plummet once she is in a secure relationship, according to research. That's one way to look at it. Another way is that people who've been in a relationship for twenty years are liable to not being thirty, but more like in their forties, if not fifties already. Women go through a phase called "menopause" which can, among other things, cause a drastic drop in libido. I don't think that has much to do with supply and demand. It's just human biology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/14 06:24 PM
1	How do you define masculinity? Oh, okay, so I guess that means to you, masculinity is a set of mostly positive qualities? I can live with differing definitions of the word. Yeah, to me, both masculinity and femininity are just mostly socially constructed guidelines of sorts on how "you should be" according to the society at large (or your peer group, or even just your family), and then you're supposed to apply them as you understand them from childhood to adulthood. And this is how masculinity and femininity are understood an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/14 08:25 AM
1	How do you define masculinity? Yes, there are biological things that gravitate people towards things like sports and so on, but much of masculinity as well as femininity is socially constructed. What you're allowed to wear, how you're allowed to behave, how you are allowed to speak, what you're allowed to like, hell, who you're allowed to befriend without it seeming "weird" to most. Things like that. These aren't inborn things, they are social constructs, yet they are parts of both masculinity and femininity. And yes, testost…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/14 08:00 AM
0	What is your take on the BCC program 'Secrets of the Sexes?' I can perfectly believe that if you try to get it on with enough women, you're likely to meet with some level of success, regardless of venue. I doubt it's a sure fire way to get anything quickly, but it's a way. Some women are just bound to be more open about sexual stuff than others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/14 02:35 AM
1	What is your take on the BCC program 'Secrets of the Sexes?' Not here, in this particular thread, no. It doesn't make the fact that it's a major tenet of TRP disappear, however. You can't just remove that aspect and pretend it doesn't exist when discussing TRP and sexual differences (or lack thereof).	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/14 06:19 PM
0	What is your take on the BCC program 'Secrets of the Sexes?' Oh, I don't think there's any reason to question that TRP, just like other things with PUA parts, works as a way to get sex, at least to a degree. It does oft seem to lead to the mistaken thought of the person applying PUA stuff to be able to get "any woman", however, which is just a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees; if your stuff is working on the women in clubs, bars and the like, that doesn't mean it works on every woman ever. It only means it works in clubs and bars, wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/14 04:56 PM
2	What is your take on the BCC program 'Secrets of the Sexes?' Ah, but I don't think most people have trouble with things like, on average, men are better at some things and on average, women are better at others. The problem is that on average, you can have two and a half children, while no one has half a child. On average most people aren't average. It's not all you should be looking at, since when you look at the actual differences without concentrating on the averages, suddenly in many cases the differences become less obvious. And thus, these things on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/14 09:27 AM
3	What is your take on the BCC program 'Secrets of the Sexes?' I doubt "redpill" was a thing in 2005, and I don't think anyone's ever claimed that men and women are 100% the same, just that the differences aren't anywhere near as sweeping as TRP would like us to believe. 100% similarity, after all, would mean that we'd all be hermaphroditic, able to procreate with everyone. I don't think anyone has ever claimed that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/14 07:15 AM
4	Amusing Daily Show piece on women in politics, and the red pill/conservative claims that women are more emotional than men and less fit to lead. Thoughts? I don't think we're getting the full story here. A quick googling of the woman who started that shows that she's just as looks-oriented and crazy as her supposed all-female employees. Often bad leadership leads to inefficiency, u kno, and the genders of people don't really matter at that point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/14 10:30 AM