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This is exactly how it is.
/r/MensRights28/01/19 01:31 AM
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This is a good thing because the red pill, MGTOWs and incels have done more about creating male narrative and exposing feminist hypocrisy and female privilege than MRAs have ever done.
/r/MensRights28/01/19 01:30 AM
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Exactly.
/r/MensRights28/01/19 01:23 AM
2

Men don't do that. Look at all the unappealing women around you. They are probably all paired up.
/r/MensRights28/01/19 01:22 AM
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We see some serious female victimhood over here. /s
/r/BlackPillScience28/01/19 01:13 AM
0

Those women do not want to take away female privilege they just want to keep men in their chains. Wake up.
/r/MGTOW13/01/19 11:14 AM
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Men should neither be masculine nor feminine, they should be able to be themselves and still have a normal life like women do. This is what women and feminists fear the most.
/r/MGTOW13/01/19 11:07 AM
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I 'm afraid this is wishful thinking. They get pickier with age. And more bitter, they think and they are told that them being shallow and superficial and picking assholes or incompatible men is the man's fault.
/r/BlackPillScience11/01/19 07:09 PM
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What I find more interesting in this kind of articles is that they completely leave out the part that women are much pickier and much more excluding even in the looks department.
/r/BlackPillScience11/01/19 11:24 AM
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And much more likely to be unwillingly single and unwillingly childless according to statistics.
/r/MensRights05/01/19 12:42 AM
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Make up has become one of the main ways of rigging the dating game against men. It should either be promoted for both sexes by society or for none. The inflated sexual market value of women is one of the main feminist weapons. It keeps men drooling and it scares them from speaking out. By exaggerating facial neoteny women even take advantage of the natural instinct of protecting our children.
/r/MensRights10/12/18 09:39 AM
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The funny thing is that the menslib sub is still viewed as toxic by the feminist subs even if the menslib guys are completely subservient to the feminist doctrine. Talking about male issues and challenging the "women are victims" false narrative will always be seen as dangerous by the feminist dogma. Challenging the "women are victims" narrative is the biggest threat to feminism because it is challenging the feminist dogma to its core.
/r/MensRights10/12/18 08:51 AM
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Feminists have always known that strengthening the sexual market value of women in the sexual neocapitalism that feminism created and weakening the collective sexual market value of men is a key factor towards female supremacy. Remember that male spiders mate even if they know that this will be their demise.
/r/MensRights09/12/18 05:26 PM
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"Make no mistake, that isn’t a doll he’s doing, or maybe raping, choking, or hitting — it’s all those women he can’t measure up to." "Only 6 ft and up" is now an official requirement for men in the feminist regime.
/r/MensRights09/12/18 05:20 PM
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When your agenda is selfish or favoring only your group, your intention is authoritarian and you have no arguments then you turn to widespread censorship.
/r/MensRights25/11/18 05:16 PM
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We don't tolerate the nowadays rampant female cruelty here and we don't go along with your shaming tactics.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 05:50 PM
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LMAO, good one.
/r/BlackPillScience11/11/18 02:53 AM
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Too bad if you don't like facts and if you confuse them with arguments.
/r/MensRights05/11/18 06:06 PM
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The issue is from the beginning the lack of intimate companionship, it is clear if you visit the incel subs. The celibate part in the term can as likely exist for effect, as a reference to the stigma of being a male virgin and because sex is an inherent part of this type of intimate companionship incels and foreveraloners seek.
/r/MensRights05/11/18 05:20 PM
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Great comment. I was baffled by the fact that my comments here got downvoted. I thought that it could be due to a feminist brigade but then there also were those knee-jerk replies by the mod here that baffled me even more. So happy when Karen came to put him in his place... I guess that the regulars here don't dare to reach to the core of men's issues and they hardly even see the pick of the iceberg. I doubt if most of them have ever read Farrell or anybody willing to go deeper for that matter. …
/r/MensRights05/11/18 01:20 PM
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Thanks for this.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 08:17 PM
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My comments are in a stickied comment in the current post and I need to add that I totally agree with the title of the post.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 05:55 PM
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It is political though and it is tied to male gender norms and expectations. This is why there is no female incels in any significant numbers. The body positivity movement is still a thing for women and it is political even if looks hardly even have any serious importance in a woman's happiness. The same goes for the "sexual objectification" of women. If incels were a women's movement (if we call it a movement) do you seriously think that it wouldn't be discussed by society as a serious issue?
/r/MensRights04/11/18 04:40 PM
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Man you don't even have any arguments and you don't even try to address mine, you just repeat some lines. And there is no such thing as an incel ideology only an issue, a male issue.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 04:23 PM
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Still poverty is an issue being discussed and taken seriously as it should. We even pay taxes to try and solve it. You cannot seriously compare owning a Tesla with not having food to eat or rotting away in loneliness. It is male gender norms that keep most lonely men lonely. You don't know what you are talking about. Your reply is really sad.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 03:50 PM
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You are involuntarily celibate if you are constantly rejected. Human rights are constructs so what constitutes a human right is and always was a matter of debate. Men are held to such standards and expectations that some men can just not fulfill because of both what they look like and who they are. This leads a lot of men to unwilling loneliness and this should be a men's rights issue. MRAs should prioritize talking about the dynamics in male-female relations and male gender norms. If those issu…
/r/MensRights04/11/18 03:19 PM
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Hehe. Hardly impossible and being obese hurts men more than it hurts women. Obese women are still fetishized by a significant amount of men.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 02:49 PM
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Sounds beautiful, this is how it should work in a civilized society.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 01:07 PM
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What exactly are the impossible standards women are held to?
/r/MensRights04/11/18 12:57 PM
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This is what feminism has done for men, it has just upped the expectations from men according to the same old standards of traditional masculinity while women can be whoever they want to be and do whatever they want to do without paying any price. Whether because of nature or nurture, women prefer men that take risks. Feminism, by advancing the possibilities of women and not doing the same for men, it has just upped the need for risk taking from men if those men don't want to die alone. You eith…
/r/MensRights04/11/18 12:43 PM
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The interview shows the low level of any intellectual discussion in Sweden. If any Swede dared to talk about those things with the directness that Jordan Peterson does he would certainly lose his job and become ostracized. The other participants just utter some childish nonsense without any ability to address Peterson's arguments. And about what the female politician says about men being able to express their feelings to their children in Sweden this is also nonsense. In every part of the wester…
/r/MensRights30/10/18 01:09 PM
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This is not even important. Trufemcels is online. 5.4k subscribers compared to the biggest male incel sub that had more than 40k before they got quarantined. Foreveralone has 96.2k and almost all of them are men. Women at Trufemcels mostly whine about their boyfriends or exes. There are numerous men even in relationships that are terrified by the thought of their women leaving them because they have had a taste of how difficult it can be to find another nowadays. Until the Men's Rights Movement …
/r/MensRights29/10/18 06:42 PM
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I don't think that unattractive women can be with whoever they want but they still have much more choices than unattractive men. Furthermore it is much easier for a man to be considered unattractive than it is for women, despite popular belief and there are studies that support this.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 05:29 PM
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I could write the whole day about it but unfortunately I don't have much time but I will add one more thing to my reply. Men can live their lives being who they are and in their own ways if they adhere to their gender norms. Otherwise they risk paying a high price through loneliness. At least straight men, gay men have it easier in this regard.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 05:14 PM
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Women can make the first move if they want and they do if the man is really attractive but most men are not in this category. At the same time they are approached by other men that try to impress her. A woman can do well even if she never does the first move and most women expect the man to approach first. This is the great thing about being a woman nowadays, you have a lot of choices, you can be whoever you want and do whatever you want without paying a high price for it and still retain a vict…
/r/MensRights29/10/18 04:51 PM
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Your last sentence is partly true and I don't think that the incel way to see the world is healthy or productive but it has a lot of truth in it. I don't know if they feel that they deserve a relationship because they exist but they see that it mostly works this way for women. Women are asked out, remember and men are expected to do the asking and face the rejection.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 03:23 PM
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Talking about the issue of men's loneliness, the double standards and stopping with the dehumanization of men is a good first step to address the issue. Dehumanization of men mostly harms the least sexually attractive men. Fighting against the male gender norms is another way. The single women in the equation are already mothers after mating with the other men. They are single but not lonely, they have their children. I will not talk about adoption it is special in ways I do not want to address.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 03:13 PM
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More angry personal attacks... Whatever...
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:54 PM
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Incels are not extremists, they are sad, lonely, damaged men that vent on the internet. They generally don't identify as MRAs but that doesn't mean that they are not victims to gender norms and the imbalance in gender relations that exists today. I agree with you about the rest.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:49 PM
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You are just making generalizations. I have never seen any "incel" lashing out on women in real life except the very few known cases everybody knows about. It is two men among millions and they are hardly the only murderers that have ever existed. As an Indian female MRA has said "if men are not entitled to sex then women are not entitled to victimhood". And with this I don't mean that men are entitled to sex, even if I believe that there should be legal consenting ways to accommodate this need …
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:41 PM
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Femcels was a satire sub to make fun of incels (officially). It still had only one tenth of the members of the male incel sub. In the Foreveralone sub almost everybody is a man. 24 percent of Norwegian men die unwillingly childless. The same percentage for women is 13 percent. This is in one of the most feminist countries in the world and a country with high fertility rates... The percentages for Sweden are similar. In Sweden more men than women live unwillingly alone. I hope this is enough for …
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:07 PM
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Yeah, more shaming... This is how men are kept down and in check.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 11:53 AM
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Calling him an incel. It is the new popular way to shame a man.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 11:49 AM
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By directly resorting to an ad hominem attack and shaming based on a male gendered issue she clearly shows that she cannot empathize.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 04:09 AM
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Shaming incels is shaming men. Men have a much higher risk of dying alone and childless, the statistics back this up. The expectations on men as partners are much harsher than those on women, it is much easier to fail. The fact that this is neither discussed or addressed in some way and the fact that the same women that reject lonely men are seen as perpetual victims is what makes incels angry. And despite the anger and that the whole world mocks them the only thing they do is state the injustic…
/r/MensRights29/10/18 04:01 AM
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This is related to the rabid entitlement that is cultivated in women that they deserve anything they want and the role of men as status objects. With relations becoming more disposable, women making their own money and the going after a man with good economy becoming both meaningless and shamed by the mainstream society women needed something new in order to rank men as status objects. Height was an easy choice, it is easy to notice, easy to measure and permanent.
/r/MensRights28/10/18 02:02 PM
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To add to my previous comment: men don't like the narrative, the narrative is forced on them since ancient history but it did not get removed when the female gender narrative was removed. A majority of men are blind to the ways society abuses them, they are misinformed or they can feel it but not articulate it but even when they start to realize it they don't dare to openly question it because the price is too high.
/r/MensRights28/10/18 01:48 PM
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Women nowadays have only their own personal narrative to engage in, they can be whoever they want, follow their own path and pay no price related to their gender. Men on the other side can pay a huge price for not fitting in or following their gender narrative. If you know that a choice will fail you, it is not really a choice is it? Do you see the imbalance?
/r/MensRights28/10/18 01:40 PM
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The "movement" needs to care less about looking good to feminists and more about being a movement. Men's rights will never look good if you only try to impress feminists.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 09:13 PM
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Not after a while. After all it is women that reject the lonely man and if it is all women it feels really bad. Don't women blame men for supposedly seeing them as sex objects (making it really obvious that women don't understand what continuous rejection feels like)? In the end incels are the ones who lose in the game of life and they know it, women and "white knights" are only kicking those that are already down while sitting in a place of comfort with their many choices.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 07:30 PM
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The only thing that #metoo revealed to the public is the reality of false rape accusations.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 07:12 PM
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Involuntary loneliness and lack of intimacy or the fear of it is or should be a men's rights issue. It clearly affects men more than women, the statistics back this up. It actually probably is the ultimate of all male issues. The men's movement will probably never go mainstream until it embraces this. Shaming involuntarily lonely men, even in one of their most damaged forms like incels, is the same as shaming men.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 06:47 PM
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Great advice!
/r/MGTOW23/09/18 01:18 PM
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I get what you are saying and I don't mean that the men's movement should adopt incel terminology while talking about the situation men face while dating. But I think that men's loneliness and the threat of loneliness is a huge issue and talking about it would unite more men around the men's movement. I think that it is a big mistake to have an apologetic and defensive stance towards feminists. If you do that, then you have already lost the argument. Trump, whether you like him or not, is a good…
/r/MensRights22/09/18 10:25 AM
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I don't know if this the right post to write this but I think that the "incel" question should be included in some healthy form in the men's rights agenda. I think that more and more men are starting to realize that the dating scene is rigged against men and luck of intimacy is a real issue and of great value in understanding gender dynamics. 23 percent of Norwegian men are childless by the age of 45. The same number for women is 13 percent. The vast majority unwillingly. And this is in a countr…
/r/MensRights21/09/18 07:30 PM
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When you make such a big and false statement you can at least try to give some examples.
/r/MensRights19/09/18 06:53 PM
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The thing is that these initiatives when they are lasting and organized they have effect. Fat women are already a thing, no point in denying it whether we like it or not. Social norms and social hierarchies have a huge impact in sexual tastes and hierarchies. Of course we are not going to see any similar initiatives for example for short men. A large part of feminism is raising the value of the female sexual capital and lowering the value of men. This way "men keep drooling and women ruling".
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 10:21 PM
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Great comment. Men have three "choices" if they want to be attractive to women nowadays. 1. Be tall 2. Lift full time 3. Be a full time clown/performer. At the same time women can be/do whatever they want or nothing at all for the same or even better result.
/r/MensRights30/08/18 10:04 PM
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It might be interesting to scroll through her tweets to see that her views are clearly leftist and feminist. The most likes the tweet has is also from other clearly leftists and feminists.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 01:58 PM
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You can still find the tweet if you search for it in a search engine but she hid it from her timeline. The tweet was up yesterday.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 01:50 PM
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Because sexual selection based on personality is pro-social and connection based on personality is deeper and more long term. Sexual selection based on looks has no value for society, the partner is often showed off as a trophy, the connection is hedonistic and individualistic and destined to fail when the sexual attraction fades.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 10:59 PM
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Lol spot the rampant perverse gynocentrism in this comment. It is gotten that bad that gynocentrists now claim that the whole human civilization was a mistake because it allowed intelligent, decent and productive but ugly men to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 08:02 PM
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Unbelievable that you people think that the only value and worth of an individual human being is looks. Maybe ugly men exist because "nature" decided that intelligence, decency and contribution to society are more important traits for the human race. Feminism will send the human race back to the caves. Go back to the jungle where you belong, wear something sexy and see how it works out for you without those ugly men that created civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 07:55 PM
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Every time the discussion comes to lonely men the usual people will come full of hate and arrogance and ask society to marginalize these men, ridicule them, persecute and silence them so that the ascension, comfort and the narrative of this new privileged class will not be questioned. They often talk about nature "taking out the trash" (just saying this is actually horrible but why wouldn't this also apply to women in this case?) or isolating the least productive, which is ridiculous because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:47 PM
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This psychopath is the personification of modern day feminism.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 10:00 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:54 PM
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Female attraction is more based on looks than male attraction. Men just don't understand that female attraction is more primitive and brutish, women are attracted to height and attributes that show aggression and potential for violence when men have more civilized and refined tastes even if they don't dare to admit it, they care about gentleness, a pretty face etc. What can be done about the issue that unattractive men become marginalized and isolated by the feminist regime is to first of all st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 04:09 AM
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You obviously care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:24 PM
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Still better than a cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:21 PM
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Are the sexbots invented and nobody told me?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:17 PM
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Exactly!
/r/MGTOW10/06/17 03:16 PM
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Your childish and incoherent answer shows that I won the argument. Natural selection works in another scale, it does not care about aberrations like a century of feminism and leftism as long as the species survives it which is not certain. Humans have reached the point where they can set the rules for "natural selection" and decide the direction it will take and by this decide if the human kind will survive and feminism and leftism will go back to being irrelevant perversions as they were for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 07:40 PM
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Are you serious, is this really an argument? He saw that he was getting fooled and he wanted to renegotiate, people do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 07:26 PM
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The social contract was breached when he was left out of that little society which ignored his emotional and sexual needs. There is no greater intimacy than the one that can be reached through a sexual relation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 09:08 PM
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Monogamy and family is one of the institutions on which human civilization is built. After the victory of the left the period that followed is the least productive and successful if you think of the resources that the previous generations had left us. Everything gets thrown away to favor the opportunistic desires of the individual. You are welcome to describe the genetically unfit men. I don't think that humanity prospered because we were the bigger or the prettiest in the animal kingdom and it …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 09:01 PM
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The left sets the rules for their own game and they decide that sexual desire and hedonism are the highest "virtues". In this world the female body becomes in a way "holy" and should only be given to the elite who in the primitive age of the left are the most sexually attractive males. The sexual and sentimental needs of men who are born with unattractive physical traits are ignored and vilified because these men are considered not worthy in the hedonistic society. They are excluded from society…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:32 PM
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Men can have a type of woman they say they are mostly attracted to but this is not something they pursue in reality. Furthermore if you gather the types of women each man is attracted to you would end up with an endless number of types. Women do persistently try to find, even in real life, their "type" of man with the features they are attracted to and if you gather the types of man of each individual woman you would only end up with a few good looking male caricatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:28 PM
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For example false accusations, spreading rumors and even physical violence. And think that those things happen quite often although there is an extremely low number of women, if any, that get so systematically and harshly rejected as a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:27 PM
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Lol. Nice try but I will help you a bit. To deny that women suffer their own brand of pain in dating is ludicrous. It's not a competition There is no way around this My arguments are already out there. bye
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:32 PM
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You want me to accept that the rules of the game should be or naturally are those that suit you and I will not give you that because I don't agree. Men are happier being with a woman who settles for them than alone as long as they think she is ok, because we always settle for someone. Nobody is exactly who we want them to be the whole time especially not after a few months. Being with someone is not only about emotional needs it is also about social acceptance, it opens other kinds of doors to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:04 PM
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"Good girls" are probably having more fun with random guys and better quality fun than party girls. They just know how to hide it. More clever I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:18 PM
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Most of the times rejected women are much more dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:05 PM
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Women's "suffering" consists of not always having the best while many men need to try really hard to even have something while in high risk of ending up with nothing. It is the difference between having no clothes and having non-brand clothes. The female "suffering" that you describe just shows the luxury that society actively offers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:00 PM
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You are not worth my time but your "arguments" and your tone just proves me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:51 AM
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It is with such sexist hypermasculine crap women won and now try to silence the men they marginalized so that they can go on without worries. But what did you expect from chad's dad...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:06 AM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:21 PM
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Feminism is a social experiment and it is destined to fail. Do you think it is without reason that in the thousand years of human history there has never been a civilization, that we know of with certainty, that was ruled by women. Society is either going to collapse under the weight of women's destructive and excluding hate and hedonism or adjustments will need to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:53 PM
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Nice post man. Caring only about yourself has its obvious positives and negatives. One negative is the risk of being exposed and therefore excluded. Caring only about yourself is not good or fair it is just egoistical and therefore evil in some way. Women are winning a rigged game and they want to silence the opposition so that they will not get exposed. Unfortunately they have society and welfare on their side. And "the left" the fanatic protectors of the new elite. Shaming and exposing is a va…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 03:30 PM
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Yeah the greatest minds in history were chads... Go teach that to a university. What is it called, the chad chromosome? Remember that in appreciating the worth and intelligence of others, one's own worth and intelligence is always a bottleneck. But your comment is nevertheless a good example of western decadence and decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:15 PM
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Yeah he could beat up a dinosaur and choke a lion. He could certainly light fires with his looks though...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 04:05 PM
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That's one of the most terrible things about women. Looks for women is the highest virtue. If they don't find you sexually attractive they think you are useless. For women looks and a person's worth are one and the same, that's why they discriminate against unattractive men in all aspects of life not just dating even work etc. Have you ever heard of the halo effect? I have no interest in commenting on you or the social circle you name.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:59 PM
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This says more about you than about chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:04 PM
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Not to mention if the idea of "Chad" gets a few more guys to build up some nice muscle for girls to pet then I'd say he's very, very useful. I rest my case man, if that's your idea of usefulness to society. Spending hours per day to build up muscle for girls to pet... Chad is neither intelligent nor stupid. Intelligence is probably irrelevant to being a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:02 PM
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Shit was certainly cold and brutal but thankfully humans have big brains (they are about to get smaller thanks to chads and women). I doubt that about raping.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 02:11 PM
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I am not talking about what happens in the present obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 02:05 PM
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What exactly does he offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 02:00 PM
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Sexuality in women is excluding and primitive. Sexual attraction for women is decided in features a man could never achieve and improve if he was not born with these features. This is why female sexuality needed to be somewhat controlled to allow civilization to prosper. "Chad" is only a threat to men. In the end he offers nothing valuable to the community besides pleasure to women. Cavemen probably ostracized chads in order for their tribe to be able to prosper.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:21 PM
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Those that have experienced bullying in real life know that this is true. You have probably only experienced bullying through the media that try to paint their own picture of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 04:20 AM
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Shaming and trying to ridicule as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:29 AM
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Perfect!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:25 AM
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Yeah because raw muscular strength is what helped mankind survive and rule the earth. The best genes... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:21 AM
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It would never have existed without feminists. And anyway although other sources do exist, no man needs other sources, proof etc for things that he has experienced his whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 02:58 AM
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Your flair says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:19 PM
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He has used bullying successfully as a way to impress women or he is directly sent by his girlfriend that needed some "amusement".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:24 PM
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These boys are abused and broken. Women are evil but incompetent, they need to use a man to accomplish their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:12 PM
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There are hundreds of studies on the internet that prove that. If you care do an internet search, if the everyday experience is not enough for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:08 PM
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About double standards the difference is that there is a large variation in what men find attractive. The tastes of women are more homogeneous, they lack individuality and diversity. And women have welfare and society on their side.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:58 PM
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Praise for masculine looks and masculine behavior is the same thing. Sexual selection is women's biggest weapon and how they mold society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:52 PM
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You want to believe this but it is not true. The only times men bully other men is when they are forced to do it by women or if they are psychopaths/criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:40 PM
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I am sure you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:36 PM
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The role of women in wars and society, literature since ancient times, women shaming and punishing their sons for not being masculine enough, women laughing at, bullying and rejecting men who show weakness or who they do not consider masculine enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:28 PM
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Both bad taste and unoriginal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:16 PM
4

You are obviously joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:14 PM
0

Yeah a lot of sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:13 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:09 PM
2

You think that because your perspective is not objective or because you simply need to look more carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:08 PM
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The white feather movement is a good example but sad that you end up trying to shame and ridicule someone you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:05 PM
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The concept of masculinity was created by women in order to control men and keep them on a leash. Who would choose it for himself to need to comply to such high and ungrateful standards in order to be deemed worthy. All this talk about fragile masculinity is essentially only mocking men to get them to "man up" but this time as well-trained, obedient but aggressive pets for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:02 PM
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To conform is not even an option to a lot of those men. They have no choice but to remain alone and sexless. The other options are either already illegal or they are soon going to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:14 AM
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Exactly and this is what created the incel and forever alone phenomenon after the sexual "liberation". And still the western society officially still pretends and functions as if there is such a thing as male privilege and discrimination against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:53 AM
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Yeah, in lack of arguments shaming and ridicule is put into action. The feminine way. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 11:42 PM
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Men are not violent. They only sometimes become violent to entertain women. Except if they are psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 10:36 PM
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Because men are rarely so excluding as women are and their preferences most of the time don't really matter. Also men's preferences vary a lot from man to man. Women's preferences are rigid and are actually requirements and women are much more homogeneous in their requirements. If a woman finds a man unattractive it is almost certain that all the other women find him unattractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:34 AM
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Economic liberalism favors the capable and creative. Sexual liberalism benefits people gifted in more primitive areas (looks) and ultimately hurts the civilization's progress. Sexual liberalism is supported by welfare and it thrives in leftist countries or states. So I wouldn't call a supposed decline of sexual liberalism "sexual Marxism".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:18 AM
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What about unattractive women that have after years of feminist campaigning seized to exist? Maybe unattractive men want the same thing now, the same good treatment. And no such change can come from within especially in regards to attracting women that are only attracted to the most primitive traits that are almost always traits that men can't change. And what about all this money and campaigning that is wasted against the supposed sexism against women when the only sexism that exists nowadays i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:01 AM
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Disabled women have no problem at all to either have sex or a relationship. Other than that interesting and valid post in regards to disabled men or "omegas".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 04:43 AM
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Women are only interested in height and the impression of high physical strength (which essentially height is a part of). If you have status and money they might try to use you but they are not attracted to you. They are of course totally incapable to appreciate personality and things that are part of the civilized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:54 PM
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It is called feminism and social liberalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:49 AM
1

Great post!
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 03:27 PM
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You did the right thing.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 02:58 AM
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I have enough experience to be able to call it a study.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 02:42 AM
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Most men tend to see a woman as a whole, personality, interests, looks etc. Women only pay attention to looks and create an illusion of personality around those looks so that they can lie when necessary. Besides that men are attracted to a much wider range of body types and facial characteristics than women who are more or less only attracted to a specific body type and some certain facial characteristics. The perception that men care mostly about looks is just based on propaganda by a feminism-…
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 05:55 PM
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It is most probable that the majority of "betas" would cooperate and get rid of the "alpha" so that balance and peace would be established in the community. What good would an alpha do if he kept all the food and women for himself and mocked all the others. The alpha would still get eaten by a lion in such an encounter. After the betas got rid of the parasite they would go on with inventing the wheel, discovering fire etc.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 09:49 PM
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It is almost always women that are the worst bullies. Men that bully are exceptions and become bullies mostly under the pressure of women. Unfortunately we accumulate false experience from films and other media that have tricked us into believing the opposite that is the myth of the noble woman. Women are of lesser virtue and more primitive instincts something that is known from prehistoric times. If you add to their nature the fact that they can now exercise their savage instincts without conse…
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 09:39 PM
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That's exactly how things are.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 07:48 PM
2

Sexism in Sweden lives on, is extremely escalated and aggressively aimed against men not women.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 09:03 PM
4

Nowadays unattractive men are even discriminated in the workplace. Soon enough there will be no careers and money acquiring for unattractive men. The feminist's dream in action.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 03:09 PM
2

The feminist brutality marches on.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 07:09 PM
2

Not surprised. Even the first season was rubbish praising decadence and advocating anti-male sexism and female supremacy.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 01:14 PM
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This article is a joke. Most men strive nowadays to find a woman, a large portion of them will die unwillingly - not talking about MGTOW enlightened men - alone and not because of their "porn expectations" and we are supposed to pity women that are supposedly not worshiped as much as they would like. The realization about the worth of conservatism is nevertheless interesting, not a surprise that it comes from a woman in her sexual decline.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 01:00 PM
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Feminists have already made prostitution illegal in many European countries, look at Scandinavia and France. The next step is surely porn. Women want to hold all the cards and only deal them to a few men.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 12:47 PM
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Trump is far from perfect but he is humanity's last hope. Clinton will bring chaos and humanity's final fall.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 01:21 PM
1

That's because they find you reasonably attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:19 PM
2

The sad thing is that I was defending you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:03 PM
1

I at least have arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:46 PM
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Women don't have any social skills. They just use the leverage that nature and society has given them to manipulate men, which isn't a difficult art to master. Their only social skill is to sense if the man in the encounter has taken the bait. If women think that there is no personal profit or pleasure involved in a social or professional interaction their only "social skill" in that situation is to make sure that the man gets that they would never but never want to be around him if they could a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:05 PM
1

Feminism creates new social norms that are more rigid and marginalizing than ever. In this way feminism influences even the perception of a person's attractiveness thus making you unattractive even if you weren't from the beginning. Furthermore has feminism influenced the society's values by placing worth only on looks and forcing men perceived as unattractive (but valuable in a lot of other ways) out of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:31 PM
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BS. And looks are rarely a reflection of health.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 02:14 PM
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So much text full of nonsense. Dividing men in social classes depending on looks that should determine if men should or should not have a woman (who apparently are according to the poster all of the same high value) is sickening but typical of feminist societies. Writing that women will save humanity by choosing the most attractive men completely disregarding any other human qualities is just laughable. Women and feminism want to send the human kind back to the caves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:06 AM
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Yeah if you were marginalized by the feminist society forced to a pitiful life because you are not sexually attractive enough and stigmatized for it by the same regime that rejected you I would like to see how well you would manage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:00 AM
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Women care more about looks than men, are much more homogeneous in their preferences (which are actually requirements for women) and have a much narrower range of what they can consider attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:39 PM
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No one even pays attention if a woman has small breasts in usual situations. Women try to offend and humiliate (your word) short men all the time, on the media, in the workplace, on the internet, when just walking down the street or using public transportation. Not to mention the rudeness and other microaggressions in everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:24 PM
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There are sources that back this up besides that it is obvious if you have a little experience in life. The sources are very easy to find through internet search. I don't really have an explanation why, but I don't really believe that evolution stuff. If this was evolution in action then the height discrepancies would be eliminated long before our time and women would be equally afflicted as men. If you think this way, then which caveman would want to have besides him a petite woman who can not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:15 PM
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Men's preferences when it comes to looks are much more varied and individual and in real life they almost not matter. Women's preferences are actually rigid requirements and their only variation is the guy's hair color.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:25 AM
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There is only a really small percentage of men that would in real life care about a woman's breast size. There is probably even a significant percentage of men that actually prefer women with small breasts. No woman will get brutally rejected or bullied over having small breasts. A woman on the other side will many times try to offend a short man over his height even in public or in the workplace and even without him making a move to approach her romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:17 AM
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5'10 is not short. Women can absolutely tell if a man is 5'5 or 5'7 or 5'10. Calling a 5'10 man short shows how bad the situation is for really short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:57 AM
1

You can't go through your whole life with lifts. At some point you will need to take your shoes off and then you are going to look ridiculous. Besides there are some cultures that place enormous value to height that force you to take your shoes off when you enter a home, some public places etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:53 AM
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You are changing the discussion in your own post in a ridiculous way. You start talking about height and breast size and then start obsessing with 50 year old women. 50 year old women could be appealing to 50 year old men. In real life big age differences within pairs is really rare. In the same way a fifty year old short man is less attractive than a 25 year old short man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:46 AM
1

LOL! Nice try...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:30 PM
1

In Europe it is the left that wants to or has already made prostitution illegal (by penalizing the clients) in the name of feminism. Take a look at France or a lot of Scandinavian countries. And what does "well paid" mean? Should the state intervene and set a lower limit to the price so that women don't lose their privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 06:01 PM
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Yes but this is where feminism comes in and makes prostitution illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 06:25 PM
2

MGTOW is essentially a movement that wants in some way to affect and go against a society that has shifted to female supremacist ideals, rewarding women's even most primitive whims and punishing men for even existing and wanting a decent life. If MGTOWs can get laid or not is not an argument against them, it is part of the problem. If they actually cannot get laid then this is only an argument that supports their cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 06:17 PM
1

Yes but society aka "the world" plays a decisive role in what you can get through its rules and values. You would probably be able to get different things in different periods of time. This is what people arguing, complaining, rallying try to affect, society's values and norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 06:06 PM
1

Your reply doesn't even make sense. Not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 03:31 AM
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The disgusting comments under his article are proof of how bad and dangerous for society the female privilege has gotten.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 01:30 AM
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He is an at least decent, interesting and moral guy with a good, demanding job but below average looks or some undesirable physical traits. He had too much respect for women at least until his thirties. Above all he is strong because no weak man can bear the burden and stigma of loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:07 PM
1

People make so many false assumptions about lonely men...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:53 PM
1

I have seen men flirting with women in a wheelchair, some men simply have a thing for disabled women. I have seen, in real life, deformed women with decent mates but never the opposite. Being obese and autistic is not even a serious disadvantage for women when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:48 PM
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The danger of walking alone at night applies even to men so your comment is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:15 PM
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Only a minority of men mind a woman being taller than them. It was probably you that felt self conscious. Writing crap like this might make you feel better about yourself but we all know it is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:55 PM
1

Correct. You shouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:35 PM
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This whole thread could be called The Blue Pill exposed and it was that easy. Social norms celebrated to the maximum, jungle sexuality and looks requirements that exclude most men. Throwing in some personality elements similarly exaggerated just makes the whole thing more comical. I hope unattractive men that read this thread start to understand where they should stand and whom they should support. The leftists, cultural liberals, feminists, SJWs and white knights are the privileged and the mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:26 PM
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lol. total bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:42 AM
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I am not a woman but the answer is quite simple: height and muscles and the illusion of personality that height and muscles radiate. Height is much more important though. Women are not as complicated as men. In the past years men were just projecting their own spirituality to women because if they expressed it otherwise they would get laughed at by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:09 PM
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According to men most women are average or attractive, according to women only a minority of men is average or attractive so having this point of view it is understandable why the OP believes what she writes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:02 PM
1

The looks requirements that women have are much more absolute and miles higher than the looks preferences that men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:03 PM
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BS. Casual sex is only easy for women and the above average men. By the way does being a nerd make you a lesser human being not worthy of intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:58 PM
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Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:48 PM
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You name statistics not cases. Big difference. By the way I don't see anything funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 01:25 PM
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The only thing we shame nowadays is unattractive men that don't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 12:25 PM
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Probably because these statistics do not exist...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 12:21 PM
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This thread should be against this subreddit's rules. It can not be argumented without breaking the subreddit's rules. I would suggest that the OP opens a book about depression and its relation to loneliness and even reflects a little on human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 11:26 AM
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You don't need to be a feminist to be a product of feminist culture. After all most women nowadays want to keep the privileges of being a woman but get rid of the negative sides and they have managed to achieve this through legislation and by spreading false social perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 11:14 AM
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If you work hard and make good choices you can still reach monetary success. Your sexual success is decided at birth through your looks. A sick side of our society is that income is heavily taxed and the tax money is used to finance the people that can and choose to lead hedonist lifestyles, huge economic support to families etc. So a sexually unattractive man who lives alone but has at least worked hard to have a good income and get some relief in life through his money is punished and his mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 11:47 AM
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I don't agree especially about the weight thing. For every man that doesn't like fat women there is one that loves them. I understand the age thing but even this is relative to the man's own age. Every man has his own taste in women and his own kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:18 PM
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My point is that she would still be more desired than he apparently deserves to be according to a lot of people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:55 PM
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Nowadays the sexual market is the biggest part of life thanks to feminism and the leftists. The postmodern social classes are build on sexual capital and the left sides with the privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 02:08 PM
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I didn't know the guy but after googling him I can say that I wouldn't call him sexually attractive but certainly not ugly. A matching woman in the looks department would be considered average. Him being raised as an example of unattractive men "getting laid" just shows the plight of men that really are ugly/below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:47 PM
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I will, to begin with, use one of your "arguments": What you write is nonsense. In addition to that I should remind that I am talking about the average man not about you, usually men that mostly choose women as friends are the ones that resemble them the most or the ones that build around them the postmodern hypergamy harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:17 PM
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The average man tries in some degree to be noble, the average woman exclusively cares for herself, which by the way has created the current state of modern-postmodern feminist society. This is why man-woman friendships do not work well for men. Also men tend to have a wider range of interests and skills than women so they are easier to take advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 12:22 PM
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