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Humans are animals too. They engage in signalling behaviors. This doesn't mean humans are meat-machines with no free will, but we've observed humans acting this way. You're essentially saying that evolutionary biology has no impact on human actions, bodies or behaviors. And I disagree with that. No, that's not what I'm saying. I said that the definition of Handicap Principle does not fit the human concept of self-improvement. As I said above, it is the act of signaling to others by incurring a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 10:25 AM
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The Handicap Principle isn't "evo psych bullshit that's pretty much just an armchair theory." Its a documented phenomenon in both evolutionary biology and economics. And just for the record, its the best theory we have for explaining the peacock's tail. The Handicap Principle has nothing to do with self-improvement. That is literally about an animal sending out a signal to others by incurring a cost to itself. It would take a serious stretch to get from that to a guy going to the gym to work on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 09:01 AM
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Probably OP: You can't be irrational if you're dead (forehead touch)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 06:05 PM
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To put it simply, no. That makes zero sense without some serious evo psych bullshit that's pretty much just an armchair theory. Do you think women are any less attracted to present-day Chris Pratt just because we know he wasn't always that buff? Sexy is sexy no matter how sexy got there. The problem is when past hang-ups, issues, and insecurities from before sexy happened show up in the present. That is a recurring problem I've run into with guys who started serious self-improvement later in lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:04 PM
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Can't argue with that. Ime women who are truly tired of those types don't feel the need to announce it from the rooftops. They convey what they are and aren't tired of through actions instead (e.g., unmatching and/or blocking men who hit their inboxes with stuff like"hey sexy wanna fuck").
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:53 PM
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I think it's pretty telling in and of itself that I had no idea you were a divorcee until now, and I've been fairly active on PPD for over a year. A lot of the RPers on here can't go five minutes without talking about their exes, and you hear almost nothing about the relationships they're currently in. All I hear about from you for the most part is your current SO, who you seem to like a lot, to the point where I thought she was your first wife. I think that's a sign of someone who's moved on an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:45 PM
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Where on earth did I try to fault black men for anything? I only take issue with those who think they have any right to dictate who I can and cannot date. Like I said before, I'm perfectly comfortable dating outside my race. As long as a man respects and loves me for who I am I couldn't care less what race he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:26 AM
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I'm sorry sir, but nothing you said within this comment reflects my personal experience. You can choose to believe me or not (invalidation is not allowed on this forum, but okay). I have attended predominantly white schools throughout my life. Not by choice, but due to the nature of racial income disparities rendering the predominantly black schools in the area where I was raised extremely underfunded. At the predominantly white college I attend the number of women significantly outnumbers the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:36 AM
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I've only dated one guy I kind of suspect was TRP/PUA. I've talked about him a couple of times on here. A libertarian gym nut who was a couple of years older with a really nice body he liked to show off on Tinder and Insta. He told me that he was pretty scrawny in high school but decided to start hitting the gym a ton to get girls. He claimed that he wanted a tradcon woman ("who doesn't sleep around or party") but looking back on it I'm pretty sure he had a fuckboi lifestyle. His mom cheated on …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 10:21 PM
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I'm personally don't do fwb but I know a lot of girls who do, so I'll give it a shot. Ime it's pretty common for girls to do fwb right after an LTR falls apart. We had a slew of those cases around freshman year when everyone starts realizing that long distance relationships suck and start breaking up with the high school sweethearts. I haven't heard of any situations where a girl wanted an upgrade to an actual relationship, and one outright told me she wasn't interested in jumping back into anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 08:21 PM
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I spent quite a bit of time in the BPsphere when I first started out on Reddit (the BluePill sub itself plus other anti-RP subs), and am still active on PPD. I'm afraid I haven't really witnessed much of what you're talking about. What I have witnessed is BP getting frustrated and giving up when a person pretends they actually want advice but is actually there to argue with them and double down on their self-defeatist/pro-RP attitudes. RP does the same thing when Blackpillers go to them seeking …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 08:02 PM
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Because I am chaste (no sex before marriage) Presumably likes Pokémon I have found my twin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 04:26 PM
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No. At my all-girl school the administration was constantly nagging us to go to the boys' school dances. Saying people should get out of the house and socialize isn't the same as saying they owe anyone sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 04:08 AM
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I have two guy friends with (confirmed) high functioning autism irl. Both are actually pretty attractive. One is a club swimmer and the other power lifts. They definitely get approaches but their mannerisms and ticks kinda turn girls off. The power lifter is extremely talkative to the point where you can barely get a word in once he goes on one of his tirades, the other one is a slender pretty boy type but is very quiet, avoids eye contact, and does this weird thing with his eyes if you do manag…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 01:59 AM
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Not wanting guys to hit on me with zero prior introduction is contributing to social retardation? Whoopsie, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 05:46 PM
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The authors examined relationship duration and its effect on sexual desire in a sample of 170 undergraduate men and women between the ages of 18 and 25 years Nothing about this sample population set off any alarm bells for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 04:10 PM
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Yeahh, that's what I thought too when we learned about the ride or die thing in religion class (except the alimony part; I didn't know that until now lol). But the sufferings and sacrifices we bear on earth for the sake of the faith contribute to our eternal reward, so I have that to gain. Or I'll just die alone for no reason and that's it. But I'll be too dead to have any regrets, so whatever. That works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:17 AM
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Oh boy. This is going to be kinda embarrassing to explain but here goes... Most Catholic school uniforms are arguably hideous. It's as if they're made to be male gaze-proof. We had to wear blouses with no visible bra underneath and skirts that touched the floor if we kneeled, nothing shorter. Needless to say, wearing an outfit like that for your whole life isn't exactly conducive to getting used to cold approaches. So when I started getting them more frequently in college it was really awkward, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:01 AM
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Catholicism. Ride or die, fam.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 05:33 AM
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Nah, hence the sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 05:20 AM
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SHIT-I mean yaaay guys will continue to satisfy my natural female validation cravings. Goodie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 05:04 AM
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Exactly. So if the number of guys dating online continues to increase we might have less cold approachers. Then, as they say, "and nothing of value was lost."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 04:56 AM
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why is an ideology that encourages men to love women despite that essential flaw so despised Gonna have to disagree here. Love is an abstract concept so we could probably argue about this for months on end but here goes. I personally believe that love is surrendering oneself entirely to another person, and that person surrendering everything to you. That is probably the most blue-pilled definition in existence, but whatever. RP is about doing pretty much the opposite of that. You give certain pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 04:54 AM
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If this means the gradual death of cold approach I'm totally for it. I'm way too awkward irl to handle that shit and yet they keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 03:39 AM
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Thank you! My mom feels the same way and encourages me to date whoever I want, as well as most of the black women I look up to. The men in my family give me the most trouble. Don't get me wrong. I love them to death, and I know they want what's best for me but damn. Let me do my thing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:58 PM
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Gonna have to second this, though I'm only 20. I get quite a bit of shit from...certain people in my family over the fact I haven't dated any black guys yet (I've only gone white and Hispanic). It's as if they wish I would have waited for the right black guy to come along but...that hasn't quite happened yet. I'm open to marrying outside my race but I am kinda scared of the inevitable pushback, especially from older relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:49 PM
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Ah, I gotcha. That makes sense. I knew I wanted so avoid the whole freshman 15 thing so I just kind of floated around open practices and stuff for various teams and ended up settling on dance. It's a pretty intense schedule and performances are kinda anxiety-inducing but I like it overall. My guy friends who are on our power lifting team had similar experiences. But I can see how that might be a stretch for serious introverts or guys who are very new to staying fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:27 AM
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That advice is helpful, but there are specific nuances to keep in mind to tailor that advice to a specific audience. For example, I generally find that college guys who participate in athletic teams and clubs have more success with girls than those who prefer bodybuilding solo. You have real world people to hold you accountable, you get access to the social networks of your teammates, you can establish an identity as part of "that group" and get the associated perks as far as reputation goes, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:57 AM
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More information needed. Ime the advice that works for a high school student vs a college student vs a graduate just setting out in the real world can be very different. You can probably guess which of those groups arguably has it easiest and which has it hardest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:27 AM
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I made the mistake of dating a guy like that once, back when I was more naive. He was super turned on by the fact that I was a virgin who went to a Catholic school. Though he got pretty annoyed that a 19-year-old Catholic virgin wasn't as quick to put out as he thought and called me a mentally ill freak after a couple of weeks of trying. Needless to say we're not together anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:13 AM
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Saw the part where RPS tried to justify your RPW ban. Let's just say that the mod message he posted summed up pretty much every single problem I have with RPW and why I prefer to just come to PPD when I want to see the perspectives of tradcon/tradfem women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 07:11 PM
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Its ok to say one doesn't exist Sorry, I thought "it doesn't exist" was implied in my answer. Yeah, it doesn't exist, and I don't think it ever will because such a thing would be contradictory to the nature of Blue Pill. I was mainly trying to explain why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:04 AM
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Anyone wanna post some conversation highlights? I can't access the sub anymore so I missed all the action. :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:41 AM
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RedPill has a way of making what it teaches logical by giving reading material, data, and self-building tactics Interestingly enough, this is exactly where one of the conflicts lies. Don't get me wrong. I like data, I like science, I like when things can be logically laid out. I was a late bloomer in high school in terms of a social life and searched all over the Internet to figure out how to confidently socialize with guys (in before "you're a girl, all you have to do is stand there"; I went to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:38 AM
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Sorry about the degree thing. That was rude. I try to remind myself not to say things online I wouldn't say in an argument with someone in person. Anyway, I've noticed that the concept of male disposability is a common one in the pillosphere. The one that comes to mind most of all is "draft"/men in general combat protector roles. You're suggesting that feminists don't do enough to address that particular role?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 09:08 PM
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See my other comment on "BAM QED."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:55 PM
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If your style of argumentation is "one source BAM QED" theen you do you bro. I'm also within my rights to say that I believe that that style can lead you to mischaracterize social movements and simplify controversial subjects within said movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:55 PM
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See feminism=woman talking comment. I mentioned that because some might wonder why I tend to correct people who ramble off random feminist mommy blog stuff and say "that's feminism." I am also a college student who has had conversations and taken classes with specialists in the field. And if "boy crying" is the only thing that comes to mind when you hear the term "gender roles" with regard to children I can't help but wonder what exactly that degree was for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:51 PM
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And a feminist-leaning network with a largely liberal demographic felt comfortable mocking it and satirized what many feel are its condescending tone. It's almost as if feminism can't be chalked up to a single talking head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:46 PM
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So The Atlantic and every single writer who contributes to it is now the leading authority on feminism? Good to know. Someone should probably let them know that Sheryl Sandberg has become something of a controversial figure amongst feminists and using a quote from her to finish your article is an interesting choice to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:42 PM
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The Gillete ad that has become a meme and is universally made fun of by pretty much everyone I know irl, including feminists. Hell even SNL made fun of it, and they're known for being liberal-leaning in terms of their content.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:59 PM
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I know feminist parents (Catholicism is a surprisingly diverse melting pot betweens trade and libs) and their big thing seems to be not forcing expected gender roles onto their sons. Buut to a lot of men here that means "turning son into girl" so...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:57 PM
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I see feminism=woman talking is still a big mood on this sub lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:54 PM
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Feminists are still instructing men to defend and protect women Are they though? I say this as a tradcon who has zero qualms with such roles in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:45 PM
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All of those people seem to be older, tradcon types. I can almost guarantee that they're giving their daughter the "act like a lady if you want to be treated like a lady" talk on the side. The tall tale is that a bunch of liberal, sex-positive rad fems are teaching their sons to pump gas for women to be good little betas. You're seeing two very different groups at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:21 PM
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Aren't there a lot of staunch feminists who have beef with TwoX though? Many of them have moved on to TrollX and other subs. I get what you're saying though. There are definitely feminists who do like to indulge in those things. I'm arguably one of them. But there is definitely a non-insignificant number of feminist women who despise such behaviors. I was just reading a Matthew Hussey book the other day, and he basically calls out women who refuse to let men they're interested in do anything for…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 06:35 PM
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What "staunch feminists" do you hang out with? The ones I know practically flip their shit when men insist on doing the things you listed (opening doors, paying for everything, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 06:10 PM
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Active PPD user, genius. She's certainly been here way longer than you. Yet you're a newbie asking "how she stumbled here."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 06:16 AM
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Wtf? She's been an active user for ages. How'd you stumble here from MMORPG land?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:29 AM
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"She just happened to be a virgin" and "wanting to get with a virgin" aren't the same thing. Can't speak for your first GF but most girls who are still virgins at my age are either actively choosing to wait (religious, waiting for someone special, whatever) or have something else going on. Ime the majority of men, especially those with experience, don't feel like dealing with that. And I have nothing against them tbh as long as they're upfront and don't play games.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 12:18 AM
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As a 20-year-old who's actively waiting until marriage I can say the "men in general want virgins" thing is largely a myth. Men who are just as Christian and tradcon as I am? Yes, they're down. Average/only vaguely Christian dudes? Hell no. The ones in that crowd who do claim to want to date virgins are normally into what porn tells them that virgins are like. The ones who have actually experienced it irl know to steer clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 09:27 PM
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I asked my brother and dad lol. They haven't done it, and they've never heard of any men doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 11:07 PM
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Are they so much lying as overestimating? I'm not a guy so I wouldn't know, but is actively pulling out a ruler to figure out the exact size of your dick common? Asking people to provide measurements is an entirely different science from asking them for a number of times they've done something since there's plenty of room for people to screw it up without necessarily intending to. Even if women are estimating on the lower side I don't think that's enough to get us down from the 100s to 7. But OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 05:28 PM
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So you're saying that women lie when polled about their sexual history anonymously...just because?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:19 PM
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"People lie" isn't a strong enough reason to completely disregard data. Generally people are more inclined to be honest when they are answering questions anonymously. Why would this not apply to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:28 AM
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So the average woman has fucked 100s of guys throughout her 20's Wtf? The number I'm getting on average is around 7, for the U.S. anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:42 AM
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