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| – | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.Feminists don't get the luxury of saying, "Don't judge us by our loudest extremists." Huh? Feminists do this constantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:53 AM |
| 16 | This approach to men issues on the left will never work.Notice how any conversation about helping men, always turns out be about how men can be better for women. The conversations usually have nothing to do with helping men. At the very least, the Red Pill outlook seems to be the one that gets actual, tangible results in the dating market for men that have few to no options otherwise. It's why the Left will struggle to really appeal to this demographic of young men. The Red Pill is toxic and regressive because dating has become (and perhaps always wa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/07/26 05:48 PM |
| 10 | Saving Men from Feminism in order to Save Feminism Is a Lousy IdeaThe "all men and women are created equal" phrase is a direct modification from the famous passage in the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence, and is similarly conflicting with the actual reality of its authorship: The Declaration's claim of equality being penned by men who were also literal slaveholders. The Sentiment's claim of equality being penned by women, who very much did not actually believe men and women should be literally equal (least of all between races) and who would go on t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/26 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or BadEveryone is allowed their preferences men are just shamed for being callous about where and when they express their preferences and how they express them No, there are entire public facing campaigns that shame men and place the blame for unrealistic female beauty standards squarely on the shoulders of straight men. Leonardo di Caprio and others get dragged in the media routinely just for appearing in photos visibly dating younger women. And that's without any men having to express anything about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or BadWhereas men always have the green light to only go for women they find attractive No, men get shamed for not wanting fat or older women or single mothers all the time, we just don't care. Besides that men's standards tend to be genuinely lower, so we rarely run into the whole "(s)he looks good on paper, but..." issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 10:09 AM |
| 53 | Survey of Americans finds the biggest Predictor of being a masculinist is being a male feministThe irony is, contrary to popular belief, it's not so much that MRAs recruit men as much as toxic feminism pushes men into men's rights. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/07/26 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Male Spaces Yes, Manosphere No!right wing red pill stuff like going to the gym, making money and self improvement to be more attractive to women. Hilariously suggesting that left-leaning men don't also want to have money, be attractive, and self improve. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/26 05:29 AM |
| 27 | Male Spaces Yes, Manosphere No!The men’s rights movement actually addresses real male issues and advocates on behalf of men and boys — it doesn’t exploit or brainwash them! Part of the reason the red pill side of the Manosphere has the audience it does is exactly because they are addressing male issues that no one else really does in a satisfying way, including your preferred groups, it would seem. Like, do you hear yourself? "Those nasty manospherians aren't talking about the REAL issues!" What they are talking about is real… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/26 08:00 PM |
| 60 | Male Spaces Yes, Manosphere No!If you a truly for men, you must be willing to push back against feminism. If you visibly push back against feminism, you will be considered to be part of the misogynistic, toxic Manosphere, no matter the differences you'd try to argue between yourself and Andrew Tate. Trying to be "one of the good ones" doesn't work when there are no "good ones." So stop hand-wringing about the Red Pillers | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/26 07:08 PM |
| 35 | Women and feminists overall make demands of and act the same way toward men as men did of women in the 1950s; just the sexes have reversedFirst of all, let's reconsider the narrative that men in general ever made demands of women or acted towards women in the ways that feminists claim they did. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/26 12:14 AM |
| 12 | The r/comics subreddit is moderated by radical feminists who claim that misandry only exists in theory, as does racism towards white people. It got me banned.I don't know that actual egalitarianism was ever the real impetus as much as 1. indignation that racially/socioeconomically "inferior" men should have rights over their female betters and 2. A countercultural revolution against traditional gender roles that were ideologically described as uniquely harmful towards women. In either case, gender-based resentment is the fuel here, not a high-minded ideal. Disclaimer: I agree with the principle of gender equality. I am skeptical that feminism advocat… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/26 04:43 PM |
| 16 | The r/comics subreddit is moderated by radical feminists who claim that misandry only exists in theory, as does racism towards white people. It got me banned.And many radical feminists of the 70s and 80s absolutely hated her because she was taking away from the self agency of women over their own sexuality. But, tellingly, often not because she was a raging misandrist that fundamentally opposed the gender equality feminism claims to pursue except from the other side. One of the reasons I personally have come to believe feminism was rotten from the start...misandry was baked in. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/26 03:48 PM |
| 22 | The r/comics subreddit is moderated by radical feminists who claim that misandry only exists in theory, as does racism towards white people. It got me banned.One of the funny things about that sub (politics is another good one for this) is that it reveals just how okay certain leftists are with authoritarianism/fascism as long as it's "on the right side of history." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/26 03:36 PM |
| 28 | The r/comics subreddit is moderated by radical feminists who claim that misandry only exists in theory, as does racism towards white people. It got me banned.I got banned for a slightly negative comment on a pizzacake opinion comic | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/26 03:13 PM |
| 46 | America Has a Masculinity Crisis … say woke NYT taking headsThe sheer commitment to their misandry is incredible | /r/MensRights | 31/05/26 02:25 AM |
| 15 | Richard Reeves supports a male-only draft which makes him anti-male by definitionIt boils down to a conscious or subconscious unwillingness to see feminism for the supremacist movement that a lot of evidence suggests it might be. For most people, feminism simply cannot be "the bad guy" so their minds will twist and turn away from that possibility, at best, seeing the movement as something that needs some "minor adjustments," maybe, but is otherwise a force for good. It's more like a religion than a position arrived at through reason. They won't be able to see the fundamental… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/26 04:21 PM |
| 19 | On incels.Excellent breakdown across this thread. I also think that it's worth nothing that there probably is some self awareness that her selective instincts are are a problem, but both a stubborn hope that she can have her cake and eat it, and an indignation at other people (especially undesirable, low status men) calling her out. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/26 12:13 PM |
| 4 | Did we just witness an “end-of-the-beginning” moment?Ironic post...attacks other men for attacking other men. This type of thinking is part of the problem... don't be in such a rush to blame men that you infantilize women. They are perfectly capable of imposing regressive social norms all on their own. In fact, it could be argued that social power was always their primary area of influence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/26 11:46 AM |
| 17 | Stop saying "by other men!"They use it as a gotcha but it really just reveals where their mindsets are wrt social justice. They couldn't give less of a fuck if anyone is suffering, as long as they don't feel responsible for it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/26 01:29 AM |
| 29 | Wanting To Be A Dad Is Weird???Gender issues is the one of the best (and most disappointing) gateway drugs to realize that a lot of people left-of-center people are basically just palette swaps of the stereotypical right-wing nutjobs. The tactics are exactly the same. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/26 12:30 PM |
| 7 | “OTHER MEN are the ones who make light of male victims, not feminists!” A new study found the exact opposite is true and that on average they have gotten worse over time about this while men improved.I just... don't understand the absolute hubris of it. Feminists expect men to just silently and enthusiastically take all the shit they talk about us, all the blame for what other men do. To endlessly grovel and scrape and bow and acknowledge how we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of women. And we did, FOR AT LEAST A CENTURY, if we're being generous, and by and large we still do. But it will be a cold day in Hell before a feminist says "Maybe we need to do better" and means it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/26 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menYou: men and women should work together to be happy… but women are totally fucking stupid sheep without minds of their own and I hate them. This is your best comprehension of what I've said so far, but I'm the one who's ignoring content just to lecture? Okay. I’m criticizing the argument here that women should be doled out to provide happiness to angry men. I'm not sure anyone has been making that argument. I certainly haven't argued anything near that in our exchange. To recap, you claimed that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menYou cannot actually have a society that considers both men and women when you use women as a tool to appease men. Realistically, both genders should be conduits for happy lives and families for each other. Except women seem to believe feminists who tell them that this is oppression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 10:50 PM |
| 5 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menYou will be punished for the rest of your life by being forced to be obedient to, have unwanted sex with over and over with, bear the children of someone you do not want. Let's not be disingenuous. The goal obviously was to reward both men and women with a willing, competent and dutiful partner and a functional family. What you describe is an aberration, and was both seen as such and sought to be minimized (with varying degrees of success) in society throughout history. Society is not out to tor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 05:42 PM |
| 11 | IS there a manosphere?It's about making clear that we aren't the strawmen feminists talk of. My point is that: You're validating the loaded definition by trying to escape it The strawman extends beyond any particular label, so you'll never actually escape it anyway, unless you do the following. The only real way to combat it is to show that, no matter what label they want to apply, that you aren't actually the conservative, misogynist, violent strawman they are trying to imply that you are. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/26 04:00 AM |
| 13 | IS there a manosphere?Let's not start playing dumb about labels and concepts we all clearly understand. It was cringe when far leftists and Democrats pretended not to know what "woke" means a few summers ago, and it would be cringe if we tried to feign ignorance about what the manosphere is. The Manosphere is a predominantly online subculture of content catering to men that engages with gender and social topics from a male-centric and feminist-critical or antifeminist perspective. <soapbox> If we're ever going to mak… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/26 02:28 AM |
| 10 | Women don't like assholes specifically, but men at the topWomen will literally fall for men in prison, so no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 02:42 PM |
| 13 | The left’s response to the Kristi Noem husband cross dressing “scandal” is grossWhich is crazy because drag is heavily supported on the left, even though there's a pretty obvious argument to be made that it's basically a gendered version of blackface. Woke leftists also cheer when visibly masculine men do things like paint their nails or wear female clothing and makeup. On the other hand, a staple attack towards anti-queer figures and politicians is that they are probably closeted. The consistency here is that they seem to be calling out hypocrisy, which is rich given that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/26 04:33 PM |
| 15 | Does the left not understand they're inadvertently validating what the manosphere has been saying about them when they make insults regarding men's bodies?It's not that they don't understand what they're doing. It's that part of the loyalty/submission test for men on the left is to accept that kind of abuse without complaint and without pointing out the logical inconsistency with the wider leftwing thought. The ones that express any objection or discomfort are ostracized. See: Warren Farrell | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/26 01:49 AM |
| 9 | Male victimization rates of IPV are far higher than people thinkTo any who earnestly believe in the feminist conception of patriarchy and male-privilege, this makes men who fail or fall on hard times worthy of contempt, which almost certainly partly explains how utterly incapable feminist women are of genuine empathy for men. Rather, it's often a post-hoc justification for those that already hold men in contempt by default, especially men who they feel are beneath them | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/26 12:32 AM |
| 17 | Using body shaming and misandry against fascists will only backfire horribly.it doesn't occur to them that these two are related Less "it doesn't occur to them" and more "they refuse to acknowledge it." It's very hard to get someone to understand something if their salary (or social standing, or worldview or life) depends upon not understanding it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/26 02:16 PM |
| 22 | Using body shaming and misandry against fascists will only backfire horribly.By their logic, the insecurity is dumb in the first place because it's based on something that isn't real (i.e. "nobody REALLY hates short people, but we'll attack your imaginary insecurities, anyway.") It's a tactic that simultaneously allows them to invalidate any male experiences that suggest men can be victims, and bully people while also maintaining plausible deniability of how hypocritical they actually are. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/26 02:11 PM |
| 31 | Using body shaming and misandry against fascists will only backfire horribly.except for the obvious fact that the masks are there because ICE members are ugly No, this is still wrong. Their actions should be enough to criticize them. Mocking them for their immutable appearances in any way is the definition of body shaming. We should not (and should not want to) cheapen our stance with this kind of illogical schoolyard bullying tactic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/26 11:23 PM |
| 53 | Using body shaming and misandry against fascists will only backfire horribly.Progressive women can't both argue in favour of feminism and then mock men for being (in their eyes) insufficiently masculine. That's the neat part...they can and do, because they are neither held accountable nor suffer any real consequences for their hypocrisy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/26 11:18 PM |
| 11 | Reducing male loneliness to the status of being or not being in a romantic relationship is incredibly dehumanizing. Don’t do it.I think there's actually two different discussions to be had here: Is the male loneliness epidemic about romantic relationships? I think it is, and I think it should be okay to acknowledge that. Rather than being dehumanizing, it reflects that men often desire some form of romantic connection in their lives just like almost every other person. No amount of platonic friendship is going to meaningfully replace the experience of loving and being loved and desired romantically. The feeling of "dehum… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/26 01:35 AM |
| 11 | Has misandry ruined the left?I think that part of the problem is that feminism operates more like ethnofascism rather than social justice, but is able to share space with Left Wing liberation movements because of people's tendency to prioritize women's concerns. Feminism is thought of as a kind of honorary minority advocate front in the same category as the other social justice movements instead of the female supremacist ideology that it actually is. Women, who aren't actually a marginalized minority group demographically, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/01/26 05:44 AM |
| 12 | Researchers find sexual double standard in sextech use: Men who use sexual technology are viewed with more disgust than women who engage in the same behaviors, a sexual double standard in which men face harsher social penalties for using devices like sex toys, chatbots, and robots.They just don't recognise that women are reading/mentally consuming more porn where as men are visually comusing porn. Exactly. Women will read their smut openly in public, but it just looks like she's an avid reader to bystanders. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/12/25 08:18 PM |
| 6 | bit off topic, but how do you guys deal with socializing?And black people tend to know and understand more about racism than white folks do. As a black person, this isn't necessarily accurate or a good thing, as that understanding is often about excessively reifying something that matters less in material conditions than other factors, and also results in a tendency to wield that understanding as a one way bludgeon, using their perceived victim status as a shield. I'll give you that black people are more concerned and vocal about race, but I'd disagre… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/25 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Scott Galloway on the masculinity crisis: ‘I worry we are evolving a new breed of asexual, asocial males’ | MenOr, stay with me here, advise men to not waste their time money and energy in the clearly broken system, and either go elsewhere or just make the most of their single lives. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/25 08:59 PM |
| 27 | Radical feminism is the dominant form of feminismI like what you're saying but I'm going to push back on this a little: Liberal Feminism is ALSO Radical Feminism per your definition (which I agree with) i.e. Patriarchy Theory. The real difference between "Radfems" and other feminists is more accurately described by the manner and intensity of their misandry. The belief in the existence of a Patriarchy is the most fundamental identifier of a feminist, back to its origins. The solutions, theories, deconstructions and reactions to Patriarchy diff… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/25 04:16 PM |
| 4 | Italy makes gender motivated murder a separate crime, but only for womenSo despite a power imbalance in favor of the men, domestic violence towards them still happens? See what I mean? Because physical power isn't the only type of power. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/11/25 12:06 PM |
| 2 | How do you guys respond to "and who set that system up?" arguement?Men and women set it up and maintain it together. Patriarchy is a myth, and women's historical "oppression" was mostly just a set of tradeoffs that women made for the corresponding benefits of female privilege. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/25 03:29 PM |
| 6 | "The average man has more privilege than the average woman"But with their other online brain rot wars too. Think about the man v bear bullshit. Now if you instead said would you rather run into a black man or a bear, I think they’d take a step back. The sad thing is that the "step back" isn't about reevaluating their beliefs, but about doing the mental calculus of how much they can reveal about what they really think without social consequences. Put them in a situation where they feel like they can get away with it, and they can and will be horrifically… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/11/25 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Zohran Mamdani's take on the male loneliness crisis is probably the most fair take by any Western politician so far, acknowledging systemic issues and economic pressure as the driving force. This is surprising for the Leftist misandry he's surrounded by, and hopeful.Called it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/25 07:16 PM |
| 3 | Zohran Mamdani's take on the male loneliness crisis is probably the most fair take by any Western politician so far, acknowledging systemic issues and economic pressure as the driving force. This is surprising for the Leftist misandry he's surrounded by, and hopeful.What political angle would he have, latching onto a spicy topic to generate heterodox points / clicks for his pods? Yes | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/25 07:13 PM |
| 14 | Zohran Mamdani's take on the male loneliness crisis is probably the most fair take by any Western politician so far, acknowledging systemic issues and economic pressure as the driving force. This is surprising for the Leftist misandry he's surrounded by, and hopeful.This forces women to either do better, or remain partner-less. The lower 70-80% of men have absolutely no leverage to force women to to do anything, collective abstinence or otherwise, and the upper 20%-30% of men see no reason to ally with the rest of us. The Lysistrata Gambit does not work on women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/25 07:07 PM |
| 1 | This kind of articles is why I have no respect for radical feminist-leaning folkIt's referring more to a "friendship recession", where males have less male friends than the previous generations. I actually think this is a misdirection. Nobody wants the incels to be right about anything. So what happens when a growing number of "normal" men are expressing increasing loneliness, isolation and, in particular, frustration with a brutal dating market? Focus heavily on the fact that these men don't have friends at the same level that women do (which is true) to desperately draw a… | /r/MensRights | 13/11/25 10:07 PM |
| 4 | Scott Galloway talks on men's issues in society on MSNBC NewsGalloway is actually starting to annoy me more than Reeves, because a lot of his rhetoric skirts the tradcon ethos: men should be protectors and providers. Men need to "man up" blah blah blah. But then he avoids any criticism of women and/or deviation from the feminist ethos of "liberation for me, but not for thee." With actual tradcons, at least they push the gender roles on both men and women. What Galloway is preaching is one-sided traditionalism, and he knows it, but is too cowardly to take … | /r/MensRights | 13/11/25 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Sexism against men meets the "prejudice plus power" definitionIt's all based on a massive genetic fallacy, that just because we used to oppress means that we should pay for our same-group ancestors' crimes. Which is doubly ridiculous when it comes to feminism because everyone has a mother/maternal figures. If oppression is carried through the generations, then I have just as much claim to that disenfranchisement as my sister inherits power (and blame for oppression) as the daughter of a privileged male. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/10/25 08:46 PM |
| 3 | Female written romantic literature is insanely patriarchalI think that porn gets uniquely singled out for this because of the stigma and sex negativity around it, not the other way around. Plenty of industries, especially in entertainment, and in particular, industries heavily marketed towards women, are notorious for physical and psychological damage towards its practitioners/performers and worse. Entertainment, the film industry, the music industry, the beauty industry, and the fashion industry all have long, well-documented histories of coercion, ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/25 12:25 AM |
| – | Female written romantic literature is insanely patriarchalAnti-porn types make no moral distinction between live-action and animated, artistic, hentai or AI porn and, in fact, hold those up as further examples of how all porn is bad in the case of something that wouldn't be legal/possible In live-action, like lolicon. The real distinction is the gender of the audience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 08:40 PM |
| 11 | Left-wing politician body-shaming short menPremise 1: It's okay to attack someone's immutable characteristics if you don't like them Close...In their mind "it's okay to attack someone's immutable characteristics if they are objectively wrong and evil." You have to understand that a lot of people don't have the integrity, self-awareness and critical thinking skills to challenge/back up their beliefs with any kind of logic. So the feeling of not liking someone, glides smoothly into concluding that they are evil, which then justifies the vi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/25 09:46 PM |
| 7 | We're Raising Boys to Hate Themselves, Then Blaming Them for Being AngryAccusing me of "concern trolling" is rich coming from someone who's handwringing about the less-than-nice reactions of internet personalities to the rampant misandry permeating mainstream culture. But yeah, take care =) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/25 02:21 AM |
| 10 | We're Raising Boys to Hate Themselves, Then Blaming Them for Being AngryIf the goal is to move beyond radical ideologies, then we have to understand why they’re appealing in the first place and how they distort the conversation. Is that the goal? I don't know that most struggling young men would agree. You’re accusing others of finger-wagging and distraction, but you’ve shifted away from a well-developed critique that actually offers solutions in order to argue tone and intent. That doesn’t help transcend anything. It just keeps us stuck in the same loop. I'm not su… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 11:23 PM |
| 13 | We're Raising Boys to Hate Themselves, Then Blaming Them for Being AngryIt still participates in and exploits that same system. The alternative is to just keep losing. What is off the table at this moment is replacing the system. It's arguable that, when and if it is replaced, it will be by those who were able to wield some power in the original system anyway. See: most revolutions in history. Not the ones that serve its dogma, just like feminists. For example? Except for the contradictions it does pretend do not exist, especially its own contradictions. For example… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 10:33 PM |
| 15 | We're Raising Boys to Hate Themselves, Then Blaming Them for Being AngryNobody but the manosphere can be the source of its own constraints and contradictions. The manosphere is a reaction to a brutal and contradictory system, except that it points the contradictions out, and advises men on how to navigate them instead of pretending that they don't exist. It tells men that they are victims of maleness being pathologized, while pathologizing femaleness. With some accuracy, it points out how men are affected by the society's pathologizing of masculinity whilst also poi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 07:27 PM |
| 8 | We're Raising Boys to Hate Themselves, Then Blaming Them for Being AngryI’m interested in transcending the radical ideologies and making a path beyond their constraints and contradictions. I don't agree that the manosphere is at all the source of those constraints and contradictions, therefore finger-wagging in it's direction is a waste of concern or worse, a distraction. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 04:47 PM |
| 18 | We're Raising Boys to Hate Themselves, Then Blaming Them for Being AngryThe movement tells men they are victims while simultaneously telling them that examining their own behavior, developing emotional skills, or working toward positive change is weakness or capitulation. It offers the psychological comfort of victimhood without demanding any of the difficult personal growth that might actually improve their lives. Wait a minute. You've just spent approximately 3,000 words explaining, in great detail, that men and boys are, in fact, victims of an anti-male society, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 04:17 PM |
| 35 | Unpopular opinion, recently, this sub discusses culture and the language of the discourse more than the actual issues billions of men face.Hard disagree. A random crank on Twitter calling all men as trash is not why 60-75% of the homeless are men. The random crank on Twitter is echoing the anti-male attitudes of the general culture that allows homeless men to rot, while extending aid to would-be homeless women. Which is exactly why 60-75% of visible homeless are men. A feminist shaming men for having a bald spot is not why boys are falling behind in school. A feminist shaming a man for having bald spot, or any other physical featur… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/25 06:03 PM |
| 12 | We can't allowed the red-pill or manosphere to use our arguments.Recently I have been seeing a lot of red-pillers talk about double standards like men facing stigma for being virgins or bisexual. Keep in mind that these people don't have men best interest in heart. They are just using our arguments to push their agenda. What is "their agenda" though? Aside from the obvious grifting, the red pill and manosphere are clearly pro-male. The promotion of traditional masculinity is maybe objectionable on a philosophical basis, but it's not like men aren't held to th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/25 02:05 AM |
| 30 | "Positive masculinity" does not help modern men.I feel like we give Reeves MORE criticism than Galloway tbh | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/25 11:46 AM |
| 13 | Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov on the Charlie Kirk assassinSwap the race to Black and it could be a stand-in for any number of racist arguments about inner-city crime we've seen over the years | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/25 11:43 PM |
| 7 | Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov on the Charlie Kirk assassinAny direction except the one their parents like. How many leftists on Reddit come from a conservative background? And yet somehow this kid from a conservative background definitely radicalized to the right of his parents? Possible? Yes. Likely? No. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/25 11:17 PM |
| 12 | Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov on the Charlie Kirk assassinA "calling card" that for the majority of it's history was, and still is, used by many, many more leftists by a person who came from a right wing family who also said he was becoming increasingly politicised, (like a lot of young people do...guess which direction they tend to do it in?) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/25 11:12 PM |
| 10 | Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov on the Charlie Kirk assassinSo the fact that Charlie Kirk had right wing opponents means that the shooter was definitely part of that group and not part of the (orders of magnitude) larger group of people that opposed Kirk from the Left? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/25 11:05 PM |
| 15 | Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov on the Charlie Kirk assassinThis discussion isn't even about Kirk, to be honest. It's about the shooter and the Left's handling of this situation and other public shootings. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/25 10:59 PM |
| 11 | Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov on the Charlie Kirk assassinThe source you've posted gives a pretty detailed history of that song as a leftist/antifascist anthem with no mention of it's supposed right wing interpretation up until the second-to-last paragraph. Do you honestly think that helps to solidify your case that the shooter was definitely a groyper? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/25 10:58 PM |
| 16 | Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov on the Charlie Kirk assassinThat statement that you've just made is speculation and the fact that you are saying this with such conviction as if it is a settled fact is exactly the problem and is only going to push more people to the right. The fact, at the time of writing this, is that there isn't any solid evidence linking him to the groyper subculture, only selective reinterpretations of evidence that point to him being a terminally online antifascist. The bullet casings were engraved with antifascist messaging. His fam… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/25 10:48 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵ahh there it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 03:13 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵How long until we find out the Charlie Kirk shooter is an incel? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 03:09 PM |
| – | Why do men here act surprised that women like attractive men ?"Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do." B-but that's Red Pill talk! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/25 11:52 AM |
| – | No one told nice guys that niceness = attraction or successSemantics is quite a bit irrelevant here in that the discussion is around which pole of the nice/not nice spectrum women seem to be more attracted to. It's frankly a derailing tactic. The observation is that the kind/nice/good/polite/prosocial side loses out in a surprising amount of cases to the rude/bad/rebel/mean/asshole side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 04:26 AM |
| 10 | Most women dont desire assholes as boyfriends. Most people dont even want to be friends with assholes.From the "empathetic gender" that claims to be able to smell the misogyny on unattractive guys/incels, yet somehow they are repeatedly bamboozled by obvious assholes over and over. Lol. Lmao, even They are labeled as assholes because the relationship is over. This is also very true and probably a more realistic explanation for a lot of the bad boy/nice guy dynamic than anything the female apologists have going on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 04:09 AM |
| – | No one told nice guys that niceness = attraction or successBeing tall and attractive is nearly a requirement for any male lead in a film. The fact that they felt the need to cast, and then, ugly up a movie star in the first place to convey the message better is telling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 04:01 AM |
| – | No one told nice guys that niceness = attraction or successWhat do you want, video evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 03:57 AM |
| – | No one told nice guys that niceness = attraction or successYes, and then when they bring up what they are seeing, people insist that they aren't seeing it. For example: "But I was told that I should be nice to get a girlfriend." "No you weren't." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 03:54 AM |
| – | No one told nice guys that niceness = attraction or successParents, friends, girls, you name it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 03:50 AM |
| – | No one told nice guys that niceness = attraction or successThere are a lot of guys who were told, verbatim, to just be nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 03:48 AM |
| 9 | Most women dont desire assholes as boyfriends. Most people dont even want to be friends with assholes.Who do you know thats wants to be around a piece of shit as friends? Irrelevant. Most people don't want to have sex with their friends either. But women complain about their exes being assholes!” Was he always an asshole or TURNED OUT to be an asshole? There’s a difference. If she left the asshole, that shows she doesnt like assholes because that destroyed the relationship. Often, everyone except the girl in question could see that the dude was an asshole a mile away. "BUT I LOVE HIM!!" Often, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 03:45 AM |
| 12 | Double Standard Between Genders on the topic of InsecuritySpot on. The gaslighting about it is the thing that gets me. Like "insecurity" is always seen with a flavor of irrationality, as if whatever a person is insecure about is always a figment of thier imaginations. Except that sometimes insecurity is a rational response to a real problem. People don't call it "insecurity" when black people are nervous about interacting with police, or when women take precautions on dates as those situations are seen as valid. But, as you also point out, there is als… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/25 02:35 PM |
| 6 | Gavin Newsom's executive orderIt's very important in this moment to keep up the pressure. Newsom is gearing up for his presidential run. He seems to be hitting a stride with his online trolling campaign against Trump and now moves like this, very transparently meant to drum up a more male-friendly, blue version of MAGA, and I think Democrats are likely to fall in line with this strategy. And it's probably going to work since no one, left or right, is likely to replicate the anomaly of Trump's personality cult once he's out o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/25 08:48 PM |
| 20 | What destroys more men today, chasing comfort or chasing women?It's definitely not because they are weak. Being able to gain the affection of a woman is the primary purpose imposed upon men by society at large. The failure to do that casts a shade over everything else a man might aspire to do in the eyes of society. Gay men are (let's be honest here) stripped of their masculinity and categorized as "other" even in progressive societies. Even then, gay men are still subject to female oversight as seen in the presumption that they can be kept as "pets" by wom… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/25 01:30 PM |
| 83 | What destroys more men today, chasing comfort or chasing women?Chasing women 100%. Never base your self worth on the acceptance of other people | /r/MensRights | 17/08/25 01:04 PM |
| 10 | How many of us have experienced abuse?Me. Never thought it would happen to me until it did | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/25 03:13 PM |
| 14 | Why do so many women not care about men’s mental health yet actively shame men for being the majority of criminals?Because the important thing, to them, is to always claim victimhood. Victimhood is power these days | /r/MensRights | 14/08/25 11:31 AM |
| 13 | Keep in mind that this is the only reason that men and men's rights are relevant again.I actually agree that Reeves wants to do the right thing. The problem is that his ideas of what "the right thing" entails are necessarily circumscribed to a feminist, gynocentric worldview. He is married to feminism (literally, he often mentions his extremely feminist wife.) I want to be clear. This is not a purity test, I'm not prescribing some specific ideology around men's advocacy, whereby anyone who falls outside of it is a heretic. What I am looking for, though, is people who can call a sp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 04:14 PM |
| 13 | Keep in mind that this is the only reason that men and men's rights are relevant again.We have political power, we just don't usually act like it. Per the OP, the only reason anyone gives half of a damn now, the only reason Richard Reeves even has a platform in the first place, is because the left is bleeding male voters in the current political climate. It's not the existence or magnitude of male suffering that gets people to pay attention. Men have been falling behind for decades now. No, people pay attention when we are a threat, political or otherwise. It's when we blow up the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 03:40 PM |
| 18 | Keep in mind that this is the only reason that men and men's rights are relevant again."Working with" someone who is actively sabotaging you is insane and counterproductive. As you say, effectiveness trumps all. I don't accept the premise that everyone who claims shared goals with us actually means that where it really counts. Litmus test: if it comes down to it, (and it does, sometimes) are you choosing men's advocacy or feminism? Richard Reeves, r menslib, et al. are probably choosing feminism, in that case. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 03:18 PM |
| 5 | Richard Reeves, Talking With Young MenOnce we have sympathetic attention given to men's issues, This may not be something that ever happens. What does happen is that people sit up and pay attention where there is some threat to themselves in play. Reeves is only able to successfully bring attention to these issues because men are becoming a problem for people in power in the first place. "Playing nice" and trying to cultivate sympathy doesn't work. Fear works. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/25 02:32 PM |
| 62 | Keep in mind that this is the only reason that men and men's rights are relevant again.It wasn't the suicide rates, it wasn't the homeless rates, and it certainly wasn't the blatant discrimination. Identity politics revolves around voting blocs, not facts or any material reality. Represent yourself and your fellow men when you vote. Exactly. And this is why we. especially as leftists, need to resist the temptation to try and come to terms with or work together with feminists a la Richard Reeves, menslib et al. The only thing that works for getting most people to consider men is wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/25 02:26 PM |
| 4 | Should men hold women - as a group - responsible?Going against the grain here -- yes, we should. ITT people are appealing to "not sinking to their level." But the problem is: we're already at their level. We live in a gynocentric society that has long assumed the best of women i.e. the "Women are Wonderful" effect even to some degree back in the dark days of Ye Olde Patriarchy. We already hold women as a group. It's just that we only try to do it when it reflects positively on them. Feminism becoming the default authority on gender has only su… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/25 03:57 PM |
| 2 | I'm cautiously optimistic about our future.I feel like men's rights being talked about has caused people t simply dig their heels into gynocentrism more firmly, as anything done for men's benefit is now seen as a threat to women. That's not to say that I think men should not be speaking up, just that I don't think it's really ever going to result in society making things better for men. Our only real option is to go our own way. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/25 04:29 PM |
| 5 | How do you feel about people pointing out sexual dimorphism?This is something that I've long noticed about feminists - they are often the biggest misogynists of all. Deep down, they actually hate their own femininity and biological vulnerability and a lot of their rhetoric is either projecting their negative attitudes about their own gender onto society, sour-grapes style chauvinism, or thinly-veiled penis envy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/25 10:22 AM |
| 20 | Regarding the Tea app and Are We Dating The Same Guy: We are under a mass attack by feminism. The only safe path forward for men is MGTOW. Starve these women of what they need from us - attention, validation, money, and resources. As they lose their minds, remind them that they chose the bear.Yes but you need to let go of the revenge fantasy, though. Women couldn't care less if most men dropped dead tomorrow. Nobody is going to be starved for your attention. Nobody is going to lose their minds or obsess over you in your absence. Just live your life for you and find what makes you happy outside of women, not for some pipe dream about getting any kind of vengeance and/or validation for your dating frustrations. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/25 06:36 AM |
| 4 | Uber will let women drivers and riders request to avoid being paired with men starting next monthOutside of race, Black people can be very socially regressive and fundamentalist Christian. Like, sit through hours-long sermons at church dripping in transphobic and homophobic rhetoric, fundies. Black people are generally very gender traditionalist, as well. Black women will opportunistically latch onto pop feminism, but in pure hypocrisy, also very loudly and proudly expect men to hold to traditional gender roles. The prevalence of single-mother households in the Black community suggests that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/25 02:57 PM |
| 7 | Why male unity is more dangerous than female unity (hint: Marxist theory explains it)I'd be interested in how you find this a rejection of bioessentialism, given that you are beginning with a premise that men have a greater capacity for inflicting violence. This could also explain why male homosexuality has been frowned upon more than female homosexuality. Just as non-monogamous heterosexuality unites the proletariat between the sexes while eroding at the gender roles and familial hierarchies, male homosexuality allows men to love each other more than they love their bourgeoisie… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/25 11:55 AM |
| 5 | One solution to how the left can improve their chances with young menThat's not enough. That's part of why the left loses. Men want to be masculine and they want to be appreciated for it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/25 08:05 PM |
| 12 | One solution to how the left can improve their chances with young menA big part of the issue is that there aren't really any such things as "toxic" or "positive" masculinities. Masculinity is like fire...there is no "positive" fire or "toxic" fire. Fire is just fire. Crucially, the use of fire for positive ends can not be isolated from it's potential to destroy. It's all part of the same package. And so the same with masculinity. You can't actually distill positive masculinity away from it's "toxic" potential and the attempt to do so just produces either neutrali… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/25 05:25 PM |
| 25 | Is it just me or Male Sexuality is hated while female sexuality is praised ?And then the worst part is that they will project the raunchy sex slave porn on us, as if we're the ones that like the sex slave porn | /r/MensRights | 18/07/25 03:11 AM |
| 18 | Is it just me or Male Sexuality is hated while female sexuality is praised ?It's a good example of feminist hypocrisy and how gender liberation has been a one way street. Traditionally, both genders were sexually suppressed, but while feminists have championed female sexuality as empowering, male sexuality is still seen as dangerous dirty perverted and predatory. by these same feminists. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/25 03:09 AM |
| 8 | Why do rich men want other men to think our masculinity is under threat?Because women/the left/feminists won't or can't do what's necessary to disprove that claim. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/25 06:02 PM |
| 9 | The paradox of the male loneliness epidemic.It’s an impossible loop that exists because the narrative always needs to end with: 👉 “Women have it worse.” Correction: the narrative always needs to end up with 👉 "Women have it worse. Men are worse." It just wouldn't do to forget that heavy dose of man-hating. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/07/25 02:53 PM |
| 5 | "Disclaimer: Women have it worse.""Men's problems are definitely smaller than women's and we should dedicate more time to focusing on women's issues since they are the oppressed class. As a man, and a member of the oppressor class, I humbly apologize for my intrusion and for taking precious time away from your chat that was meant for the betterment of society. Now ladies please go back to your wonderful discussion on how white capitalist patriarchy is fucking everything up." Also, never forget, men's widdle pwoblems are our own … | /r/MensRights | 15/07/25 02:25 PM |
| 5 | Is there anything that makes you feel you have a male/masculine identity?While I'm certainly not any type of Alpha Male, I do have my share of masculine coded affinities. In broad categories, mine are: -Tinkering (e.g. programming, models/dioramas, cosplay, hardware customization, videogame modding) -Training/Coaching (e.g. teaching, writing, public speaking) -Lorekeeping (e.g. History buff, fandom, general geekery) -Puzzling (e.g. programming, technical musical instruments) These are specific areas where I really step into my masculine, start to look a lot more like… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/07/25 05:40 PM |
| 11 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?Yes, but having a baby that you don't want forced upon you isn't a woman-specific problem. The only reason it can feel like that is because we're accustomed to a world where women have reproductive rights that men don't. Not to say it isn't a problem, but it is very far off from the insinuation that Trumpers specifically want to turn America into some kind of misogynistic hellhole. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/25 04:30 AM |
| 14 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?Right, it's just misandry masquerading as political opinion. They didn't get their girl boss Madame President two times in a row now and so they pretend we're on the brink of living in Gilead and throw "men" under the bus for the actual problem of people literally getting rounded up in the streets. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 11:32 PM |
| 3 | The nice guy does deserve to finish lastThe difference being that the attractive person is thought of as being kind, and the unattractive person is thought of as being a spineless, people pleasing pushover | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Do you actually NEVER get laid or approached, or are you exaggerating?I consider myself pretty average The fact that you felt the need to make this post illustrates that you are probably underestimating yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 08:57 PM |
| 24 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?I get that Trump and his ilk are a big problem for women right now, but it's not as if we're anywhere near close to the Handmaid's Tale becoming real. The thing is that they really aren't a big problem for women, in particular. Hell, many Trumpers are women. Trump and his ilk are a big problem for immigrants, gender and sexual minorities and the poor. But for women, at worst, they want to roll back abortion rights, which in and of itself is an extension of the traditionalist desire to enforce th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 04:59 PM |
| -1 | It’s hard being a man, it’s almost a curseSo glad I had a daughter, tbh. Having a boy and knowing firsthand what he would have to endure in life would have been heartbreaking. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Zohran Mamdani Wins the Male Vote Through Working-Class PoliticsMamdani will eventually be forced to bend the knee | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/07/25 11:04 AM |
| 4 | My thoughts about being a man in the US today…This is a legitimate war between the sexes. I've never even heard of anything like this. Correction: women are at war with men. Men are, by-and-large just trying to live, and either to make women happy, to not make women (more) angry, or to leave women alone. If men were truly at war with women, the world would look very different. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/25 11:52 PM |
| 8 | How short sighted could they be?Funny thing about this... Wasn't there a big collective whine women had several years ago about how men are too solution oriented and try to fix problems instead of just empathizing and validating while their wives/girlfriends wanted to vent about their bitchy coworkers or whatever? "IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NAIL!!!" In and of itself an admission that women unapologetically expect men to perform straight-up emotional labor. But oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth if we expect them to reciprocate in a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/06/25 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Guy here asking questionsWhen is internalized misandry going to start making headlines? Approximately around the heat-death of the universe, if we're lucky Plain old "misandry" barely (and that's being comically generous) even makes the COMMENT SECTION of media about gender issues, never mind the headline. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/06/25 09:00 PM |
| 0 | Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductiveBezos is a blue-pilled beta nerd at his core who just so happens to be rich as fuck. Just like Musk and Gates. Case in point that the guy decided to get married again after a divorce settlement that exceeded the GDP of several minor nations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Men’s Right’s focus MUST be “pro-MEN” - not “pro-MAN”!It’s too individualized. It’s too inclusive of niche positions/perspectives. It’s too void of group responsibility & accountability. It’s too void of personal responsibility & individual accountability. It’s far too “protected” (where people expect a safety net to rescue them regardless of their actions). I think you need to pick one, here. Is feminism too individualized or is it too void of personal responsibility and individual accountability? The problem with feminism is the same problem with… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/25 12:30 PM |
| 35 | Talking to Left Wingers on Reddit is such a frustrationThey know, deep down, what they're doing wrong. But to admit/acknowledge it is to risk the ire of another large voting bloc: Feminists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/06/25 08:25 PM |
| 3 | Talking to Left Wingers on Reddit is such a frustrationThe reason this bothers me is that I really do want to see the Democrats succeed and win elections again and even win back a lot of their voting base that they abandoned. The Democrats are never going to win back men until they break with modern feminism. And they will probably never do that so that's pretty much the end of it. Voting, by itself, is cooked as any kind of effective political action until third parties are viable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/06/25 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Equity or equal victimhood?Right, and the perspective you've just shared is one that I would closely align with and, from what I've seen over my long time in this sub, very reflective of the tone and tenor of this space. Which, given that we're all in agreement here, raises the question of what the criticism of this community in your OP was about in the first place. Because had your OP been along the lines of what you just posted, I'd would have had little disagreement and been confused about where you're seeing this elem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/25 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Equity or equal victimhood?So, social democrats and democratic socialists are tradcon right-wingers now? . I would argue that the left is defined by its response to capital (pro/con) as opposed to a class-based/class-exclusive analysis I don't think social Democrats or Democratic socialists would reject class-based thinking either, which is why they are leftist. How pro/con you are about capital defines your flavor of leftism, but the class analysis is baked in. Even in the case of DemSoc/SocDems, my understanding is that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/25 12:22 PM |
| 3 | Equity or equal victimhood?The difference between classical liberals and left-liberals is taking the economic power of capital seriously. Which seems to be a bit of an arbitrary place to draw the line between left and right, given that the entire paradigm was based around class struggle (i.e. the Estates system) in the first place. So, okay, we're all "leftists" if we're defining the "right" as Monarchism. Wholly rejecting class analysis seems to be a solidly right-wing take, at least in the U.S. I don't know where you're… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/25 02:18 AM |
| 1 | The male loneliness epidemic isn’t about sex and I’m tired of certain people acting like it isMy point is more so that feminists reduce men’s desire for connection and relationships to just a desire for sex. Of course I want sex in a relationship, but I also want a partner that I feel like will support me in the way that I need whatever that may be. I think that feminists flip-flop between these, when the truth is that both are necessary. On one hand, They will belittle male loneliness as an just a crude desire for the physical act of sex. But on the other hand, they will studiously avoi… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/25 06:39 PM |
| 3 | Equity or equal victimhood?Everyone oppresses and everyone is oppressed. It's not a useful lens through which to see the world. Which is a viewpoint that, along with your bootstrapping ethos, makes me question why you consider yourself a "lefty" in the first place. The whole left wing edifice back to the French Revolution is built on the the idea that some groups oppress others unfairly and unilaterally and that we should (re)organize society to resist this. I can agree that just shutting up and getting on with it is prac… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/25 06:12 PM |
| 5 | Equity or equal victimhood?Nobody feels better as a victim, and nobody is attracted to someone who is a victim. Citation fucking needed. Victimhood is power in modern discourse. That's why men's activists have so much trouble gaining a foothold in the gender dialogue--because feminists know that to acknowledge that men are victims (and victims of women, in particular) is to cede some of their power and jeopardize the bedrock narrative of their entire ideology. And the bullshit of it is, men REALLY ARE VICTIMS as evidenced… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/25 04:16 PM |
| 3 | The male loneliness epidemic isn’t about sex and I’m tired of certain people acting like it isI agree with most of what you've said, but I'm going to push back on your premise a little. The loneliness epidemic IS about sex (or, rather, intimate companionship in general) and that's okay. Part of the problem is that feminists are able to use men's sexual needs as a bludgeon and some kind of moral ammunition against male loneliness, which speaks volumes to the sick pathologizing of male sexuality in society. "Oh, they're just mad they can't get their dicks wet." Yes, Karen, adult people in … | /r/MensRights | 23/06/25 03:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Consent is sexyWomen are people too. Source?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 01:29 AM |
| 3 | "The looming catastrophy of sexrobots!" A neutral mans take!The type of man that needs to turn to a sexbot is not the type of man any woman wants in the first place. Do not underestimate this!!! Rather, it is you who is underestimating just how unnecessary most men appear to be in most women's eyes. They would not bat an eyelid (and aren't, given the utter indifference to the rate of male suicide) if a sizeable number of us dropped dead tomorrow. Let go of the revenge fantasy. Live your life. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/25 05:27 AM |
| 27 | Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than menStop tolerating bad behavior and place self-respect over getting laid. This won't even out anything. Women don't give a fuck what average men will or won't "tolerate" as long as there are other, stronger men to make sure there aren't any consequences. The only thing this will accomplish is even more men going sexless than there are now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 09:09 PM |
| 23 | The biggest reason dating & relationships are broken today is because men are comparing themselves to HOT men, mistaking how women interact with them as true measure of attraction, and giving up when their own experiences don't matchWomen don't compare themselves to top models who are flown to exotic islands, cruising on yachts and given Birkin bags as 1st date gifts by billionaires and conclude if we aren't being given that experience the men aren't truly attracted to us Tell me you've never met a woman without telling me you've never met a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 02:04 PM |
| 1 | LA riots blamed on men?The argument between left and right is whether the demonstations are ocnsidered "riots" in the first place. So no, gender is not a part of the discussion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/25 11:37 AM |
| 5 | My story of bitterness, chainsaws, and the politics of being heard"Black people should stop with the violence and thug culture" "Muslims are too backwards and misogynistic" People who are part of those communities but don't behave in those ways should not be offended according to your logic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/25 11:24 AM |
| 22 | LWMAs have two choices: leave men’s (sexual) loneliness to the likes of Andrew Tate or address itTo quote somebody(the internet says it was Oscar Wilde, maybe,) "Everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power." What's really difficult about gender for the left is that it is an inflection point where nature and nurture intersect, and people are both human enough to reason ourselves out of our biological instincts/realities but also animal enough to not always want to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/06/25 01:29 PM |
| 5 | Yay more manbashing and generalization of menI actually don't think it's a "new" audience. It's just that the W Bush/Obama Era leftist coalition had broken down, with some evolving into the new establishment Dems that are so inept as to lose badly to Donald Trump twice, and with others being "left behind." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/25 12:01 AM |
| 16 | In the presidential elections in Poland, just like in the United States, the conservative candidate won due to male voters. It seems like a pattern, and liberal / left political forces need to start doing something about it.Most men are fed up with the intersectionality and identity politics that have fully captured the Democratic party. How this simple answer is not obvious is beyond me. It's not that the Libleft doesn't understand the truth. They won't admit it, but deep down, they know. If they are totally honest with themselves they know exactly how they've treated men and they know that this is just the obvious consequence. The problem is that a lot of the attractiveness of social justice culture/wokism is the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/25 08:46 PM |
| 7 | The idea that men in positions of power would not engage in misandrist policies is complete nonsenseThis (and patriarchy theory, as a whole) is largely a projection on the part of women and feminists. They picture what society would look like if women were the dominant gender in formal positions of power (i.e. deliberately organized to benefit women at the expense of men) and then simply swap the genders. The problem is that men usually don't think in terms of gender solidarity. Women do. In fact, BOTH genders show a positive bias towards women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/25 03:42 PM |
| 7 | The phrase "men were the ones who created patriarchy" is just a deflection from pointing out their Cakism and hypocrisy when it comes to male gender roles.The fact is that women in 2025 do have agency, power, and influence over societal structures. In fact, most of the women debating these issues on social media and elsewhere weren’t even alive during a time when women lacked agency to influence society or gender norms/expectations. The fact is that women have always had agency to influence society and gender norms. See: the 18th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. What women lacked was access to formal power structures (usually, not always) but o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/25 03:51 PM |
| 9 | Alt-Right Pipeline is a Detriment to Developing MalesThe right doesn't tell men they're strong. The right tells boys and men they NEED to be strong so they can slot into the rigid gender role of of being the breadwinner and inseminator. The unfortunate part is that they aren't incorrect about that though. Women, even feminist women, are by and large attracted to and reward the traditional male gender role. On a philosophical level I can agree that this shouldn't be the case and that we should strive to liberate men from their rigid gender role. Bu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/25 03:32 PM |
| 3 | The phrase "men were the ones who created patriarchy" is just a deflection from pointing out their Cakism and hypocrisy when it comes to male gender roles.You're making the mistake of assuming that feminists actually want the presidency. The problem with being president is that people are going to want to blame you for the state of the country. Donald Trump is a very convenient (and both willing and deserving, to boot) scapegoat for the frustrations of anyone who isn't MAGA. Think about what would have happened if Hillary or Kamala had been elected. The state of affairs in America might be a little better, but not by much. Then, feminists and woke… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/25 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Why do PPD men tell women to ignore red flags then turn around and complain that we date criminals and bad people?Generally, these complaints are about women choosing between men that are so far apart morally that there isn't any reasonable way to compare the two, regardless of any under/over stating and hypotheticals. Again, in one case, we're talking about behavior that is literally criminal, abusive, etc. Maybe you can take a very sympathetic perspective on it, but it still is objectively worse behavior than the other case. It's like "Call me a misogynistic asshole because of my comments on Reddit, but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Why do PPD men tell women to ignore red flags then turn around and complain that we date criminals and bad people?My red flags = a little annoying or inconvenient His red flags = literal criminal behavior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 06:10 PM |
| 11 | In a tough spot - I hope I can get some inputMan, I could have almost written this exact same post except swap the puppy for a newborn baby girl. I have no real advice as I've currently escaped the house and am trying to figure out what to do myself, but I'm rooting for you, from one abuse victim to another. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/25 12:55 AM |
| 15 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.I never seen an angry woman hating Chad in my life. You have never seen/heard women complaining about sexually successful men (fuccbois) that they are involved with? Really? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 11:59 AM |
| 9 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.But you see, some guys here insist that good looking guys treat women like crap. "Liking" someone can have very little to do with how you actually treat them, i.e. you can "like" someone because they let you get away with treating them like crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 11:55 AM |
| 7 | Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average.But, you can't necessarily blame women for being deceptive and disingenuous with their preferences, as they face much higher risks of deviating away from the politically correct social norms as opposed to men. No they don't. Women regularly get sympathy for opinions and behavior that men get gleefully raked through the coals for if they are even suspected of having | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/25 05:07 PM |
| 14 | Why It Feels Like the Left Thinks Men Don’t MatterFeminism at its core is about equality Highly debatable | /r/MensRights | 19/04/25 01:23 PM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menThere is a good reason for that: emotional care in relationships is delegated to women. This is not true. Men are often expected to be the emotional rock of any intergender relationship, taught from childhood to mute or limit their own emotions while absorbing the emotional expressions of others, women in particular. The (pre-emptive) emotional care/labor that women do is mostly a projection of their own (and women's, in general) emotional instability and neuroticism onto other people. Your boyf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 05:15 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat women want are men who communicate that they are capable of being ruthless but (ideally) choose not to be. It's the sheepdog dynamic. But given the choice, women would rather take the risk of trying (and likely failing) to tame a ruthless man rather than settling for a harmless one. The most disgusting thing to a woman is a man who genuinely wouldn't hurt a fly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 03:36 AM |
| 2 | Opinion: You need to develop your data literacy if you’re going to use data/studies/statistics to make broad claims about society!So it's not 30% of all men, it's 30% out of 5% of all men. As you describe it, it sounds more like 30% out of all men that were suspicious. Does the study say anything about the men who didn't have suspicions? That would be the meat of the issue: misplaced trust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 10:17 PM |
| 6 | If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women?Because being in (or close to) a relationship sounds better than being one of Chad's sidepieces that he calls for a drunken hookup at 1AM every few weeks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 07:05 PM |
| 1 | When self-proclaimed “nice guys” say that they are “good guys,” what “good” traits are they talking about?I am literally asking you to define good and nice since you don’t like anyone else’s definitions. You just like to call things conjecture. You are asking me to define nice so that we can get into a semantic argument where you will try to dissociate "nice" from being on the same moral side as "good" when, by all normal use of the word, they are closely related. I will humor you: "Nice" can connote: civil, polite, respectful, etc. but also: kind, compassionate, considerate, thoughtful, etc. Critic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 06:57 PM |
| 2 | When self-proclaimed “nice guys” say that they are “good guys,” what “good” traits are they talking about?Not necessarily. Real life observation and many responses to this OP indicate that there are at least types of "good" people think of when "good" is brought up. This conversation and real life observation is inherently unreliable due to the aforementioned clinging to a Just World theory. "Nice" and secretly "not nice" behavior is identical until and only when it is followed up by clearly "not nice" behavior. Before that point, people are mostly just making baseless conjectures to avoid confronti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 02:13 AM |
| 5 | When self-proclaimed “nice guys” say that they are “good guys,” what “good” traits are they talking about?When I think of a “good person” I think of these character traits: kind compassionate considerate thoughtful You have the exact same definition of "good" guys that self proclaimed "nice guys" do i.e. the common-sense, damn near universally understood, obvious and colloquial definition. There is no "nuance." They straightforwardly mean exactly what it sounds like they mean when they say they are "nice" or "good." The only reason why we have to keep having this semantic navel-gazing discussion is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/24 11:52 PM |
| 16 | "Every woman is unique in their taste in men" no they aren'tI think it's a little of column A, a little of column B. Yes, women will all generally cluster around the same pool of top 20% Chads that all share a bunch of core traits like masculinity, social status, charisma, traditional good looks etc. The thing is that Chads are similar, but not identical. Each individual woman is waaaaaayyy pickier than to settle for the top 20% of men. That number includes the different flavors of Chad that various women may/may not be attracted to. This is one way you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 07:55 PM |
| 2 | I think paying, if possible, is much better for rich smart men than marrying or even "free sex"It's semantics, but I would think that connection sounds a lot closer to what you're calling intimacy since "connection" implies that it's bidirectional. Liking a streamer that has no idea you even exist wouldn't count as feeling "some form of connection." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 07:27 PM |
| 1 | I think paying, if possible, is much better for rich smart men than marrying or even "free sex"If we're defining intimacy as necesarily going both ways, then there's a lot on the spectrum of romantic/sexual interactions that aren't really intimate either, paying for it is just another one on the pile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 07:04 PM |
| 1 | I think paying, if possible, is much better for rich smart men than marrying or even "free sex"I would say professional therapy proves that incorrect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:56 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe way they helicopter their tails when they poop to spread it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 03:55 PM |
| 0 | I think paying, if possible, is much better for rich smart men than marrying or even "free sex"Nope. Men don't just want sex, they want intimacy too. Lol you can pay for that, too. A lot of escorts will happily hold your hand and talk about life for the hour. It's kinda nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 03:24 PM |
| 3 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodPersonally, when I get drunk, my inhibitions go away and I tend to just get really blunt and overtly thirsty if I'm attracted to someone without trying to tiptoe around it. Just straight like, "I just wanna say you're sexy as FUCK, let's hook up" or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:43 AM |
| 3 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodmy fear of coming across as pushy or making them uncomfortable is holding me back from operating with the level of confidence a guy needs to seal the deal. This is probably it. I would also say that there's a difference between being pushy and being honest about your feelings, which is easy to confuse. IME, being more honest (without being pushy), gets decent results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: How would you feel if your SO regularly watched pr0n?I'd probably feel a bit more intimate. Like how after you've been in a relationship for a while and you get comfortable enough to share the bathroom while one of you is pooping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 12:47 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadam I missing anyone? Black and Pink piller | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 11:13 PM |
| 9 | Most of the advice women give automatically weeds out introverted menSocializing and “masking” weren’t deemed these evil infringements on one’s right to fester away on that damn phone or video game. I think this ignores the other half of the issue, that it's much more attractive for groups to isolate themselves in echo chambers and also for ostracized people to be publicly pilloried at a wider, more permanent scale for social missteps. To the extent that people need to "put down their damn phones" and learn to socialize, there is also a need for people to be tole… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Any man that sees women and sex as rewards is automatically an entitled misogynist.And men misconstrue everything from fashion to growing breasts to bending over to pick up dropped keys as actions designed to distract and bamboozle men. Hard to misconstrue when women discuss literally offering or withholding sex according to men's behavior. Mmm hmm, and when women do exactly that, men call them “shallow”. Because they are. Is the expectation to be able to be shallow without anyone acknowledging it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/24 08:45 PM |
| 3 | Any man that sees women and sex as rewards is automatically an entitled misogynist.Have you read the thread you are participating in? You mean the thread claiming that women are not trophies when, in the real world, women use the prospect of sex to try and influence men's behavior in everything from voting habits, to chores, to romance as I pointed out in my first comment? I still haven’t figured out if men understand they are demanding that women date men they aren’t attracted to. Men are more demanding that women be honest about what kind of men they are attracted to rather … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/24 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Any man that sees women and sex as rewards is automatically an entitled misogynist.When men pursue sex without taking the steps to ensure she’s mutually interested, they indeed neuter themselves. It therefore behooves women to clearly communicate what they are interested in rather than repeating the narrative that their interest in sex is based upon something that men can earn with good behavior. Of course, the issue here is that women would have to give up a lot of the obvious leverage that they hold to get men to do what they want, and also would have to admit just how shall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/24 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Any man that sees women and sex as rewards is automatically an entitled misogynist.Earn something which is mutually enjoyable and mutually beneficial? That seems to be what women are implying when they cite male behavior as the reason for/lack of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/24 06:32 PM |
| 15 | Any man that sees women and sex as rewards is automatically an entitled misogynist.So how does this figure against the claims that incels can't get laid because women can smell misogyny on them a mile? Or discussions about "choreplay?" Or that dead bedrooms or cheating are the result of the man not putting in enough effort to romance her? Women make sex into a reward for good behavior by themselves all the time. The "WOMEN AREN'T VENDING MACHINES YOU PUT NICE TOKENS INTO FOR SEX" argument is only ever rolled out when women don't want to reciprocate or don't value the man tryin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/24 01:17 PM |
| 5 | If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single?1.) What does Asshole Actually mean? "Asshole" means exactly what it means in common usage. From Wikitionary: asshole (plural assholes)(US) (vulgar, derogatory) A jerk; an inappropriately or objectionably mean, inconsiderate, contemptible, obnoxious, intrusive, stupid, and/or rude person. 2.) If being an asshole is all it takes, why do the men who complain about it the most not just... use this fail-safe cheat code to also succeed? They sometimes do. At other times, they'd rather not stoop to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 06:57 PM |
| 7 | when nice guys complain about their situation is not because being nice didnt get them a girlfriend, but because they can see guys who are far from nice doing way better, but women manipulatively twist this narrative to bully them.Notice that I quoted her correctly, but you didn't. She did not say: People who need to say they are nice, aren't nice, That is YOUR addition and a clear attempt to make self-described Nice Guys out to be bad people. Rather, in her comment, she said that a man who can only describe himself as nice is unattractive and boring, and made no attempt to question whether or not his niceness is genuine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 03:42 AM |
| – | "Nice guy entitlement" is in large part fuelled by women's general complaining about dating men, such as "the bar is on the floor".The only reason there are long term repercussions to OF behaviour is because of the existence of slutshaming The reason there are consequences to OF behavior is because people are allowed to decide whether or not they want to associate with you depending on how you present yourself in public. That's not "shaming," that's just reality and respecting the boundaries of other people. You are focusing on the capitalism red herring but missing that you are actively confirming the other girl’s point Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 11:00 PM |
| – | "Nice guy entitlement" is in large part fuelled by women's general complaining about dating men, such as "the bar is on the floor".Its because you are mocking the idea of OnlyFans as not being empowerment. OnlyFans is largely about the capitalist exploitation of male loneliness. It's no more "empowering" than any other business, and is arguably less so as the "entrepreneurs" in this case are commodifying thier own bodies as a resource for short-term gain, with all the potential repercussions that may come with it. Calling out that OnlyFans is an off-base example of "female empowerment" isn't slut shaming. That's calling a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 10:16 PM |
| – | "Nice guy entitlement" is in large part fuelled by women's general complaining about dating men, such as "the bar is on the floor".The fact that slutshaming hasn't been 100% eradicated everywhere does not mean that we can't also focus on becoming more positive about male sexuality, especially given that the support for (female) sex workers is only one part of a general sexual liberation for women which, even if less than ideal, far outstrips any social positive attitudes around male sexuality (to include: the use/encouragement of female masturbation practices, sexual aides, sexual tourism, and the spectrums of female sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 08:35 PM |
| – | "Nice guy entitlement" is in large part fuelled by women's general complaining about dating men, such as "the bar is on the floor".You clearly have an unreasonably broad definition of slutshaming but ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 08:19 PM |
| – | "Nice guy entitlement" is in large part fuelled by women's general complaining about dating men, such as "the bar is on the floor".I think if we were all more sex-positive and women weren't shamed and judged as much for being sluts, they would be more likely to be more open about their interest and maybe even initiate more, which could solve a bit of this problem. In a world where OnlyFans is unironically argued as being a form of female empowerment, I think we've got the "don't slutshame women" tack fairly well covered. Instead, how about we stop shaming male sexuality as dangerous, dirty, predatory, primitive and unwanted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 05:56 PM |
| 13 | when nice guys complain about their situation is not because being nice didnt get them a girlfriend, but because they can see guys who are far from nice doing way better, but women manipulatively twist this narrative to bully them.There is nothing more unattractive to me than a guy who describes himself as a nice guy. I always appreciate this honesty. There is nothing...NOTHING...more unattractive than a man that can only describe himself as a nice guy. "Be nice" is literally the single worst piece of advice you can take to heart with regards to attracting women. You can and should do LITERALLY almost anything else instead of trying to be nice, and you'll be more successful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 05:44 PM |
| 10 | when nice guys complain about their situation is not because being nice didnt get them a girlfriend, but because they can see guys who are far from nice doing way better, but women manipulatively twist this narrative to bully them.Males are far more likely to externalize their issues and blame others. While females are more likely to internalize. Said with a straight face while feminism and patriarchy theory exist and are the culturally dominant narratives around gender in society. Might be something to do with how males are raised to expect everything to be equal. Said with a straight face when western women are increasingly moving towards the political pole that advocates for socialism and wealth redistribution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 05:18 PM |
| 1 | “Extreme male brain is autism and extreme female brain is BPD”I heavily agree with this take. In a lot of the behavorial differences in genders may simply be different expressions of the same feature. For men, I think this is best relfected in the discourse around male emotional expression vulnerability, therapy, et al. A female-dominated spaces sees that men are behavorially dissimilar to women wrt emotion and conclude that men are emotionally stunted. But it's likely that men do engage in a rich emotional experiences, but that these may not resemble fema… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 09:13 PM |
| 1 | How should men protect themselves from paternity fraud?Sure, but it's not a binary choice between abstinence and going ahead without any precautions whatsoever. Many people are concerned about out-of-wedlock pregnancy, but there is space for several different types of contraception and birth control methods between being committed to celibacy or having unproteced sex. Similarly, a man deciding to have children does not mean he has to accept the risk of being a victim of paternity fraud. Decades ago, that was the case. But today there is no reason no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 08:07 PM |
| 2 | “Extreme male brain is autism and extreme female brain is BPD”Sorry, all that came up was shades of gray | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 06:11 PM |
| 1 | How should men protect themselves from paternity fraud?So because one of the risks can't be mitigated as well others, you'd suggest either deliberately forgoing whatever precations are availible for the other risks, or just abstaining entirely? How far back does that logic go? Sex isn't mandatory. Relationships aren't mandatory. Socializing with other people isn't mandatory. Do we present a binary of deliberately accepting ALL or NONE of the risks of each of those, even when we don't need to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 06:09 PM |
| 0 | “Extreme male brain is autism and extreme female brain is BPD”I'm not sure why, given enough data, black-and-white thinking wouldn't be enough to model any problem. We use math (i.e. Black-and-White thinking as a natural philosphy) to describe the entire universe with all it's complexity, random chance included. I think that when black-and-white thinking is "wrong," it's because of an incomplete data set, or human error, not because it's invalid to try and find definite answers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 05:54 PM |
| 5 | “Extreme male brain is autism and extreme female brain is BPD”I'm actually going to push back on this. I think that black-and-white thinking is fine/perhaps the foundation of optimal results, but the issue is that you need to learn how to present the facts in a palatable way and contextualized way for other people. It's not either/or, it's both/and. Men struggle with dating when they lack the lack the emotional graces to soften/contextualize thier data, (or when thier dataset is incomplete.) Women struggle with dating when they fool themselves into thinkin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 05:34 PM |
| 3 | “Extreme male brain is autism and extreme female brain is BPD”I think there are biological undertones, but a lot of it is socialization. Emotionalism or the lack thereof has very different utilities for each gender, which individuals will learn (probably harshly) despite thier natural tendencies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 05:26 PM |
| 1 | How should men protect themselves from paternity fraud?They're very real examples of the traumas/heartaches that come with trying for kids and why not everyone is cut out to have them. But they don't both "come with trying for kids." There is always a risk of a pregnancy miscarrying. That is an unavoidable reality given the capabilites and limitations of of modern science and medicine. But in the 21st century, we have the technology to verify paternity with close to 100% accuracy. The only reason that there needs to be a risk of parental uncertainty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 05:00 PM |
| 0 | How should men protect themselves from paternity fraud?How do you 100% protect your wife from miscarrying or the child from having some kind of illness incompatible with life and being stillborn? You can't. Terrible analogy. You don't 100% protect your wife from from miscarrying because it's literally impossible to do so, not because you're just stoically "accepting risk." On the the other hand, knowing that your children are actually yours with near 100% certainty is completely possible, potentially routine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 03:28 PM |
| 2 | How should men protect themselves from paternity fraud?The government protects the vulnerable not deliberate morons. Since they are not the ones to give birth, men are 100% vulnerable to paternity fraud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 03:16 PM |
| 2 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?Very specifically being gaslit and lied to, you mean. How dare men fall victim to female dishonesty! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 12:19 PM |
| 1 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?What about what I’m saying isn’t happening in reality? Lol. What you are doing is pushing back against the common observation that "women like bad boys" by using whatever subjective internal (and likely self-serving) logic women may use as justification i.e. "We don't like Bad Boys, we like all these other positive things that only Bad Boys seem to be capable of." But my point is to let go of the subjective whys and wherefores. That is a trap that can and does trick men into doing the ineffectiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 05:14 PM |
| 1 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?You're being honest and clarifying about your subjective feelings. I have no doubt that you really do feel what what you feel. What actually happens in reality is another matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 04:07 PM |
| 1 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?Most woman don’t want a meanie. But many will settle for it for the other traits. (And then complain to their friends about his asshole ways until their ultimate divorce.) And yeah, back to my original reply to OP, ultimately the women I see who are generally happy together with their asshole men are also asshole women. And this, in practice, is just more spinning up of female plausible deniability. Because who is and who isn't "a meanie," and in fact, most of the other desirable traits that you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 02:55 PM |
| 2 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?And so we return to the comfortable position of it always being men's fault if something goes wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 01:30 PM |
| 2 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?You seem to have some morality and value judgement hang ups that don’t got shit to do with women lol. You're projecting HARD. You were the one that was trying to equate liking bad boys with some sort of moral failure on women's part. That's YOUR judgement, which you seem to be trying to use to handwave any attraction women may have to toxic men: "Oh, those women you see that like bad men...they're bad women!" My reply was the opposite - that women are human and, just like the examples I gave for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 04:39 AM |
| – | It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated."Do you know who I am?" moment of 2024 lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 03:04 AM |
| – | It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated.This is what women mean when they say they can "smell the misogyny" on incels. More accurately, they can detect a bitter, lonely man that no other woman wants. The existence or absence of any misogyny has little bearing on that, seeing as how women can be irresistibly drawn to the exact types of men that are the biggest actual threats to their lives. No, women can "smell" when a man is a genetic dead end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 03:01 AM |
| 6 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?Men on this sub have to realize that women don't go around doing dating calculus in their heads. Sometimes women are just stupid or mentally ill and make fucking bad decisions based on irrational factors and feelings. Men would realize this faster if women didn't constantly lie about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 02:37 AM |
| 2 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?No matter how many men claim they want the girl next door, they will always hit on the wild one. Wrong. Men want the hottest, most willing one. The fact that a lot of those girls are toxic is an unfortunate side effect, not the draw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 02:33 AM |
| 1 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?This narrative is mostly just women trying to avoid accountability for what they are attracted to. When men notice that women are widely attracted to Bad Boys, it's either skirting responsibility by claiming that men are hyperfocusing on damaged women, or it's because "Bad Boys" are master manipulators that somehow take otherwise reasonable women completely by surprise. For all the talk of women wanting to be "treated like people" in this case, they seem to squirm away from the idea that, like p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 02:30 AM |
| 16 | It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated.Women who are attracted to bad men, are also bad. Just World Fallacy. Taming the Bad Boy is a widely popular fantasy for all kinds of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 08:48 PM |
| 59 | It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated.Then there are the blue pill actual nice guys who think you just have to be a good person and women will be attracted to that. Reddit will not hesitate to accuse those men of being the meme "Nice Guys." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 08:46 PM |
| 10 | It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated.Because this seems like a terrible strawman. It is. The vast majority of Nice Guys are "genuinely decent human beings who are sexually and romantically frustrated" that get immediately accused of being entitled, passive-aggressive perverts the moment they dare express any frustration out loud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 08:44 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLike eating a candy bar with the wrapper still on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 08:06 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadChecking in to remind you all that snow sucks ass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 07:57 PM |
| 3 | Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man?Wtf? Women are going to reject the average man long before his porn usage is even worth consideration. Yeah, yeah...you dislike porn, but this post doesn't even make sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 03:05 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNew Circle of Hell Unlocked: It's Super Bowl Sunday, and you are tech support for a bunch of people that are both too poor for cable and too tech illiterate for streaming services | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/24 08:59 PM |
| 4 | What have you guys learned from this subreddit?Of course as a society we could improve the economy so more people could be seen as successful. That would make pairing up with men more desirable. Wrong. A rising tide lifts women's minimum standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 10:40 PM |
| 7 | What have you guys learned from this subreddit?And men feel women owe them sex. You've learned nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 10:36 PM |
| 12 | What have you guys learned from this subreddit?Women all shocked pikachu when they find out men are human and have feelings lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 10:28 PM |
| 8 | What is happening to this sub?But it's not "women literally never suffered at no point in history, at all" which is what a some dudes say here, and get upvotes. You have seen men on this sub arguing that women literally never suffered at any point in history? Surely, you have examples? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 09:47 PM |
| 20 | If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of themYou could be a literal, 'chad' but if you don't appear approachable, no one will approach. Lol yeah they will. If Chad is quiet and brooding in the corner, women will just think he's "mysterious," "shy" and "tall, dark and handsome" and sooner or later one of them is going to hop over there and do her best manic pixie dream girl attempt to try and "fix him" and "break him out of his shell." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 10:41 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOnly losing weight and building muscle seem to be in your control. Luckily, these two features are the primary factors in determining whether you are an ugly duckling or a swan, especially if you are a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:58 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSo shitty that you probably need a good deal of social pressure (like a family history of police work) to actually choose to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 08:39 PM |
| 1 | What do you think will be the next big paradigm shift in dating and relationships after OLD?Or because everyone is fit, that means no one is, and only the superhuman extremes of genetic or artificial beauty will have any value in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 05:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV- Men who struggle to date in today’s social climate have serious physical, social, or emotional flaws.the success What success? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 04:00 PM |
| 6 | CMV- Men who struggle to date in today’s social climate have serious physical, social, or emotional flaws.The problem is, because people see single men saying misogynistic things online Rather, people go looking for reasons to dismiss the compalints of unsuccessful men because otherwise they would have to confront the fact that life isn't a meritocracy and people often don't get what they deserve. It's the exact same treatment that poor people get. Everyone is desperate to prove that thier situation is somehow thier fault in order to uphold thier vision of a Just World, so unfortunate people's finan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 03:37 PM |
| 5 | "We need to adress men's issues, otherwise they will vote for Donald Trump!"It's a step above not speaking about it at all. But it's not a very good, positive, healthy, or respectful one. Best case scenario is that it opens up the door to dissenting and actually pro-male voices to step in and correct him, use his name and recognition to springboard into actual discussion and support. He's a potential opportunity, not a solution or a viable advocate in himself. At this point, I don't know if I'm more afraid of things getting worse or if I'm more afraid of the drip feed o… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 09:13 PM |
| 5 | Is it fair to assume that being a pushy asshole works enough of the time for some men to continue behaving that way?It doesn't work as much as you think it does Niether does being a nice guy, and that is probably the bigger misconception of the two | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 04:51 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathread-Candy -Dream -Foxxxy -Diamond -Kitty -Lexxxus -Stormy -Venus -Angel -Champagne -Roxxxy -Mystique -Sapphire -Luscious -Babydoll -Crystal -Cherry -Destiny -Exxxotica | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 07:48 PM |
| 30 | People go about separating feminists and traditional women from each other in a very disingenuous way. And this is harmful for male issues.Women have always been considered the moral agents of society. To the point of inciting war or peace (see: Lysistrata and the White Feather campaign,) influencing changes to the written law codes of nations (see: the 18th Amendment to the US Constitution,) and fomenting Revolutions (see: the Women's Marches of the French Revolution of 1789 and the Russian February Revolution of 1917.) The idea that women were and are historically these powerless victims of society just because they tended to not… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/24 08:00 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAhh, the pumpkin spice latte of the dog world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 07:29 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDo they honestly think things were okay until andrew tate showed up? Yes, that's exactly what they think. In fact, they still think that things are okay and that young men are just complaining over nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 07:24 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYour grandma would have had to marry a handyman to get him to fix anything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:48 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI always thought it was meant ironically, like "Enjoy your time in Hell!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:46 PM |
| 5 | It's always funny the lengths people will go to to avoid answering a question if they don't like the answer, like asking them if the world we live in sounds like a patriarchy.I kinda morbidly enjoy cornering them on the yes/no questions, tbh. There's no hope of changing thier minds, or getting them to admit they might have been wrong, so next best thing is to just watch them squirm and dig thier own rhetorical grave in front of an audience lmao. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/24 10:18 PM |
| 1 | [STUDY] There exists a positive correlation between being a bully and success in dating and sexual relationshipswhy would their dicks evolve for pleasure when they don't have sex for pleasure They wouldn't. But ours did. What does that tell you about the fact that humans evolved to have unusually large dicks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:38 PM |
| 1 | [STUDY] There exists a positive correlation between being a bully and success in dating and sexual relationshipsWhat's your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 06:27 PM |
| 3 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?People are "dating" and falling in love with AIs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?It's already happening | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:52 PM |
| 9 | [STUDY] There exists a positive correlation between being a bully and success in dating and sexual relationshipsIf women truly didn't like big dicks, they'd be genetically selected out, instead of slowly getting larger with time. Not only that, but humans have abnormally big dicks relative to our size compared to other animals (gorillas and chimps have micropeens) and our dicks have gotten measurably larger across recorded history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:49 PM |
| – | Men have already lost the gender war and it's bound to get worseUnironically though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Are women not getting approached anymore?I see a woman walking past who's more my style and think "it would be super cool if I could just ask her if she wants to join me for a drink". Not that you've asked for it, but my advice would be instead to strike up a conversation and then offer the drink after you've built some rapport. The benefit here would be plausible deniablility against this valid concern: I don't want to look like a) the sad loser with no friends or b) the creep who's trying to get her drunk with the expectation of sex.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 10:26 PM |
| 72 | Do we really "slut shame" women more than men?Men are shamed and judged more for almost every single aspect of sexuality than women are. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 07:21 PM |
| – | In your opinion what does put the pussy on a pedestal mean?Men who are hyperfocused on a woman’s outward attractiveness will idealize her personality. A lot of men want their wives/girlfriends to behave like golden retrievers: I was with you up until this point, which, while accurate, is twisting a lot of your gripes about ways men can be selfish into pedestalization, which is the opposite problem. She should always be happy/sweet/cheerful. She should be a constant emotional support. What men want is for women not to get upset for no discernable reason … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 01:42 PM |
| 2 | Is there a Lizzo Paradox™ for males?Not so much brownie points, but more to spare yourself the trouble of conflict or upsetting others. Women tell little white lies to avoid hurting feelings or generating unnecessary drama constantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 09:54 PM |
| 3 | Is there a Lizzo Paradox™ for males?Sure, but why give up the brownie point? Being honest has no benefit and only provides your enemies ammunition to use against you, even if it's low stakes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 09:37 PM |
| 11 | Is there a Lizzo Paradox™ for males?But ALL of the women? Not 1 of them would think, "hmm... No, she is an unhealthy weight which is unattractive and therefore I'll have to disagree with the others" They may think differently for sure, but they will never vocalize it. You seem to be underestimating both women's eagerness to pounce on the one that breaks rank and women's fear of being the target of that kind of ostracism, especially over something as trivial as shallow opinions on a celebrity's body. Law of Power #38: “Think as You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Men erroneously confuse being confident with being an asshole with the whole nice guy/asshole dichotomy and womenTo be more direct about it, what I'm really getting at here is that I believe that there are some difficult choices that will have to be made because, as you say, we are never free of our biology entirely. That there probably ISN'T some practical end-run solution around the antagonisms, contradictions and cross-purposes where both genders can meet in the middle and be adequately happy. That the reality is that for greatest number of men and women to be together, everyone is going to have to prep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Men erroneously confuse being confident with being an asshole with the whole nice guy/asshole dichotomy and womenI totally agree with your point that the issue comes down to maladjusted selection heuristics, but my further contention is the utter refusal of both genders to face the reality of the situation. For men, they either feed into the problem by adopting the negative behavior, thus perpetuating the cycle or by refusing to hold women and themselves accountable for their choices by pretending to not see how clearly women are attracted to some level of toxicity in men. Women try to have it both ways by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 02:50 AM |
| 4 | Society seems to assign womanhood virtue.You can go tell that to girls in western europe who get raped by middle easter immigrants 😬 Radfems and male-focused racism. Name a more iconic duo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 10:08 PM |
| 5 | Society seems to assign womanhood virtue.Of course when out alone at night you'd be more wary of a certain population if they're more violent and crime committing. I think that a lot of people would see that as prejudice and unjust profiling. Especially when... because it happens all the time everywhere. The number of men arrested for violent crime every year in the US is fewer than 1% of the total adult male population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Society seems to assign womanhood virtue.So, are you saying that this rhetoric is valid for the time periods and cultures where that is the case? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 09:28 PM |
| 20 | What are some of your 'favorite' societal contradictions?Intersectionality for everyone except straight men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 09:05 PM |
| 5 | What are some of your 'favorite' societal contradictions?Yeah, me neither. I was a goodie-goodie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 09:03 PM |
| 8 | “genuinely kind guy” is a rebrand of the “nice guy”Most women (not all) are not chasing dudes that mistreat them. You would assume so, but most men have seen evidence that challenges that assumption. So if that's really what these kindly dudes mean, they're branding themselves as not at all capable of critical thought (and I mean not at all capable, I don't mean bad at it, I mean not doing it at all). But they literally are though. The expectation that they are given by society, women and all common sense is that women should not like men that m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Men erroneously confuse being confident with being an asshole with the whole nice guy/asshole dichotomy and womenYou don't need to be super agreeable to be kind. Having an edge, being interesting, having backbone, etc. do not mean being an asshole. But it also does not mean being nicer. In fact, having an edge, having a backbone etc are about tapping into that side of yourself that isn't so nice and accomodating, and being able to do that, at least a little, is likely the bare minimum if you want to succeed. This is the issue. No part of a man becoming more attractive has anything to do with being nicer, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 07:39 PM |
| – | Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get boredBeing nice never hurts your chances. Never say never. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 07:14 PM |
| 9 | “genuinely kind guy” is a rebrand of the “nice guy”Of course, I'm open to this not being the case, but I think we really need to start digging in on what the fuck these guys mean when they say how kind they are. They probably mean "I am at least kinder than the asshole that regularly mistreats women, that is somehow very popular despite that fact" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 07:08 PM |
| – | Society seems to assign womanhood virtue.Genuinely though. Men Black people are more likely to be a physical threat to women and men people of their own and other races. Men Black people commit more violent crimes. It’s just cut and dry. If you’re a man Black person there’s more of a chance another man Black person is gonna rob/rape you than a woman white person will. It’s obviously not all men Black people but I don’t get why totally normal dudes Black people get so upset that women other races have to take precautions bc of the actio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 06:55 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathread"Just walk on water and die for our sins, bro" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 06:08 PM |
| 4 | Men erroneously confuse being confident with being an asshole with the whole nice guy/asshole dichotomy and womenWhether it is MAXIMALLY attractive in a purely erotic sense can be debated, but doesn't really matter. It does when the person is asking for advice on how to achieve their goal and the advice you've given is a direct hindrance to that goal. Q: "How do I get a job?" A: "Get a face tattoo." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 05:31 PM |
| – | Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get boredMan moment AKA "observing reality" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 05:24 PM |
| 7 | What are your opinions on the exredpill community?And then let's replace "love" with "money" or "food" - "You are not entitled to money, if someone is not willing to pay for your work - it means that you are simply useless for society, please enjoy your poverty and do not bother people who have money, touch grass and be happy - there is so many poor people out there and look at them, they don't complain". The standard response: "Uhm - this analogy doesn't make sense, sweaty. You aren't going to die just because you can't get your dick wet. How … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 02:20 PM |
| 4 | Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get boredThere’s nothing more unattractive than a person who’s not able to have their own opinion. I really want to amplify this because I think both men and women avoid drawing this out to it's conclusion. There is nothing...NOTHING...more unattractrive than a man who is so spineless that he seems like he is not able to have his own opinion. Nothing. Not an abuser. Not a cheater. Not a player. Not a rapist. Not a criminal. Not a manipulator. Not even a physically unattractive person. Every single one of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 01:46 PM |
| 5 | Men erroneously confuse being confident with being an asshole with the whole nice guy/asshole dichotomy and womenNow, they may be wrong or distorting reality to feed their erotic fantasy; nevertheless, it's important to note that pure, unmitigated evil is generally repellent to women if they can see it for what it is. Not just terrifying, but also repulsive. This is the important point of contention, though: No matter how "repellent" anybody claims evil is, nothing, NOTHING, is more unattractive to women than being a little bit too nice and a bit spineless. Be a ruthless asshole, steal from the elderly, ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Men, describe your “Sex Zone”.Now, hold on. Let's not be hasty here. I do have this broken arm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 06:29 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills"Mmm...yes. Accusing someone of coping means you don't have to actually prove anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 05:53 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills"Do men lie? Yes, much in the same way that women lie. Nobody's expecting women to just believe men at their word, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 05:51 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills"Oh, nono, I understand your point. Certainly, when men witness women doing the exact opposite of what they claim to be doing, it's all just a big misunderstanding, I'm sure. Apologies, we should have known not to trust our lying eyes over what women tell us to believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 05:49 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills"If this is the female nature, why wouldn’t we have gone the whole feminist route hundreds of years ago? Because hundreds of years ago, women needed to compromise with men to survive more than they do now. Why is it that only hurt men are drawn to it ? Because the people comfortable with the status quo are less likely to complain about it or search for solutions. Why is it that that everything about the female nature is negative and everything about the male nature is mostly vague but positive an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 04:31 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills"Crazy how red pillers have such a “clear” understanding of women despite being told directly by women that they don’t. Right. Because women would never lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Men, describe your “Sex Zone”.Sex Worker | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 03:56 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOkay that's your choice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/24 11:26 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNot voting for either is a choice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/24 11:13 PM |
| 16 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Fall of 2005. University of Massachusetts Amherst. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 01:05 AM |
| 14 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?I've said this before and I'll say it again---whatever else I might have to say about feminists, I will give them their due in the fact that they know gender. They know the ins and outs of masculinity and femininity and how it ticks and functions. This is one of the things that make me extremely skeptical of the Patriarchy narrative. Gender is a handicap for men because we don't seem to think in a strategic way about it. Yes, we are on average the more physically capable of the sexes, but the wa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 12:07 AM |
| 26 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Oh yeah. The most vivid discrimination I have ever felt (for context, I am a Black man in America) was during my college orientation when a feminist got up on stage and did the "Look to your left, look to your right one of those men will rape you" thing. That was the most I had ever felt stereotyped and ostracized as threatening, unwanted and othered mostly because, contray to something like racism which is condemned for the most part in the 21st century, this blatant sexism was proudly displaye… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 11:49 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIs it slaw without cabbage? Suggest adding red cabbage. Also duck fat? Genius | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 02:26 AM |
| 8 | Leftist MRAs are the original TERFsInteresting... but tell me more: how are they so ideologically opposed? Because the basis of the TERF argument is in favor of orthodox, exclusionary feminism (i.e "More Feminism) and MRA views are either antifeminist or in favor of inclusive feminism (i.e. "Less Feminism") This would be like trying to get a staunch capitalist and committed socialist to agree on the ideal economic policy. Personally, I see Rowling as being motivated by Duluth Model misandry rather than by transphobia, This illust… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/01/24 04:34 AM |
| 6 | Leftist MRAs are the original TERFsI wonder whether any TERFs are now thinking, "Maybe I was unfair to some of those MRAs who swore it really was about integrity in video-gane journalism..." Highly doubt it. There can't really be any kind of "kindred spirit" argument that you're making. I understand the temptation to do so, given the similarity of the detractions lobbied against both groups. But the association immediately rubbed me the wrong way. After thinking about it, I realized it comes down to polarity. Because those accusa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/01/24 01:55 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI do want to be a writer but I am not sure if this is the way It is. You can still sit at an upscale coffee shop where they serve les cafés et les croissants très luxueux off of real porcelain plates, looking all deep and sophisticated while you write your smut, and no one will be the wiser. Don't let your dreams stay dreams. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 10:42 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat in the Bourgeois fuck did I just watch? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 10:30 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBoomers trying to sing along with what the kids are listening to like | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 10:24 PM |
| 1 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsTo push back on both points: I’m simply not convinced that all men want is the mousy girl next door but are just terrorized unrelentingly by the crazy cheerleader. I'm not claiming that, and I don't think most men would either. Men and the wider society seem to be pretty (self) aware that men are attracted to physical beauty and sexuality to the exclusion of almost everything else, to the point that we have common idioms like "thinking with his dick" and ancient stories of men literally killing,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 04:54 AM |
| 0 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsDo you really think women are seeking out ugly toxic men the same way they’re seeking out hot toxic men? Because "toxic" isn't really any objective behavior in this case, and plausible deniability is the name of the game. It's not that women are just tolerating toxicity from hot guys. It's that the "toxic" behavior is hot when hot guys do it. But then, if a guy isn't attractive, she can fall back on criticizing his behavior as a reason for rejecting him. The ravishiment fantasies, the dominance,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 12:07 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen are fucking as much as they want. I don’t get this idea you have to work for it Because the men they want to fuck excludes a sizeable number of men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:23 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA lot of hot assholes categorically refuse to eat pussy and still pull | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:20 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOf course. Oral is a requirement for sex. Appreciate and mirror your enthusiasm for oral, but this definitely isn't true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:18 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSomeone else doing the cooking and/or cleaning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:16 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMasturbate instead | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:15 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAt my lowest points, I would have said life hopefully includes some pleasure but definitely includes a lot of pain and that the one isn't necessarily worth the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 12:51 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI've learned not to try and find some kind of "worth" of the pain, because sometimes it just isn't, and it ends up being a good argument for self-deletion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 12:33 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI know, but prefering something doesn't mean you hate the other options. This isn't what women tend to say though, "I prefer big cock, but average ones are okay, too" No, it's always something that comes off as sugarcoated: "Oh, different women like different things", "the big ones hurt," "Most women need clitoral stimulation to orgasm," "the best sex I've ever had the guy didn't have the biggest," etc and so forth. All of that may be true but comes off as evasive when we're specifically concern… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 01:06 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadModded Astarion into a chick. Halsin's next. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 11:50 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLol mf like: "just be confident, bro" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 11:30 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathread"But don't try a hobby with the primary motive of meeting women because that's creepy" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:50 PM |
| 8 | What do men think of male sex robotsAll the guys angry that some women find it easier to find sexual partners should be really angry at how easy it is for gay guys to find sexual partners. Nah, the fact that gay guys also have an easy time getting laid just reinforces the fact that women are the roadblock here. Literally is a hating the player, not the game moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Women’s Attraction to Dangerous and Violent MenFair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Women’s Attraction to Dangerous and Violent MenI'll give you that most women grow out of it eventually but, no, dealing with a fuccboi is very common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 07:42 PM |
| 3 | Women’s Attraction to Dangerous and Violent MenI didn't say all women were the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 07:40 PM |
| 6 | Women’s Attraction to Dangerous and Violent MenSo women are either abusive or ending up with fuccbois, then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Women’s Attraction to Dangerous and Violent MenPhysical strength isn't the only kind of power and using physical force is often straight up illegal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Women’s Attraction to Dangerous and Violent MenOr rather, visibly wielding power makes you responsible for whatever happens, so just benefitting from it behind the scenes is much less risky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 06:47 PM |
| 3 | Women’s Attraction to Dangerous and Violent MenNope. Vast majority of women have a fuccboi experience. Something about the toxicity is actively attractive to most women, even though the consequences suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 06:41 PM |
| 3 | Why do some people bend over backwards to find excuses for everything women do?It's accurate or not. The sexism claim is irrelevant and nonsensical here. It's sexist because it's inaccurate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 03:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do some people bend over backwards to find excuses for everything women do?First, one could argue that women ARE more moral than men in terms of Christian morality. Absolutely not, and it's sexist as hell to say so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 01:27 PM |
| 4 | Sex Robots will fix the dating marketSee the rules will not change, true as the only thing which most males crave touch and sexual pleasure of penetration a live vagina But they don't. Because then prostitution would solve the dating market. Yup and if that is substituted, will they feel that need? I don't think so. Except sexbots, as you describe them, will not subtitute that need because they are machines that are literally bought and programmed for the sole purpose of having sex with the owner. That is not "attracting a partner"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 12:14 AM |
| 6 | Sex Robots will fix the dating marketAnd why do they need female affection? Because mating is a basic biological urge and besides that human males have been socialized to place a lot of their sense of masulinity, personhood and belonging on thier ability to successfully attract a woman. More control over kinks and turn ons, Limited by whatever an individual sexbot is built/programmed to do. Also cheaper, and more easily achived by porn, VR and AI. simulation of a sexual partner irl, sense of touch (materials can be made such that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 11:29 PM |
| 10 | Sex Robots will fix the dating marketWhy do they grovel? Primarily because they've been conditioned to think that this is an effective way to earn female affection. It could be due to social stigma which the robots can take care of as no one will know it's in his bedroom unless they check themselves. Also the stigma of religion for some people stops them from seeking out prostitutes. This way is a workaround All true of masturbation, toys, porn, onlyfans and sex dolls, which are all cheaper than sexbots and already exist. What just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 10:03 PM |
| 15 | Sex Robots will fix the dating marketLet us be clear what's plaguing the market as of now. The number one problem is simps, The very fact that simps feel the need to grovel to women for scraps shows that they aren't the problem. The matter as much as a homeless person does to a billionaire. The access to sex will decrease which will make them less thirsty and also less touch deprived. This will cause them not to throw away their standards and look for any woman to settle with. There are places where prostitution is legal, in addtio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 09:28 PM |
| 1 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About ItIt worked for Gay Men. It worked for Black Men. It worked for Atheist Men. By blaming straight white men. There's no other boogeyman to blame if we want to generate sympathy for straight white men, so it's never going to happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Why push for a relationship, marriage and even kids when you are fundamentally unable to trust your partner?For example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 06:23 PM |
| 5 | End of (male) cultural romanticism - now what?The message to men should be "True, being a nice guy may not get you a ton of attention from women, but that's ok. Be a good person anyway because its the right thing to do." That's not entirely true, either. Being a nice guy may actively repulse women and sonk your attractiveness up to and including keeping you entirely celibate for the foreseeable future. It would be an easier sell to say that men may get less attention, but the reality that a lot of men are staring down is that they might nev… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/24 12:13 PM |
| – | Why push for a relationship, marriage and even kids when you are fundamentally unable to trust your partner?A reasonable and empathetic man will not make an issue because he believes his partner, see how that works? Especially if they’ve been together for years, there’s never been any hint of cheating, he would understand the hurt and resentment his insecurity is going to cause. And probably every single person that got defrauded probably thought the same and still got fucked over. That's how betrayal works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 11:26 AM |
| 3 | q4men: would you sign an acknowledgment of paternity for the child of some woman you arent married to?Brave =/= stupid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 08:22 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAh. Assumed you were meeting her for a date lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 09:00 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadmy best actor blowjob skills Suck her so good she sees stars, my man 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 08:58 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIn other news, fuck snow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 08:56 PM |
| 1 | If we were able to somehow get all men on board, what are the things, that if we all started doing them, would combat male loneliness?I'm going to disagree with most of the comments here. The elephant in the room is sex and relationships with women. Men can and do get together in male support groups, hobbies, guys nights out, etc. RIGHT NOW. Most men have at least some friends, and a lot of the reporting around that seems to not consider male-coded modes/styles of friendship. E.g. a lot of men socialize heavily online, but most people seem to think that this "doesn't count." But still, men are "lonelier" than ever. No, what ne… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 07:30 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadUnattractive men don't deserve any particular relationship perks either. Everyone deserves basic human courtesy, but the benefits of a romantic relationship fall outside of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 01:56 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThey don't deserve to be treated as more than cum socks just because they're women either. Unattractive men don't get anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 01:47 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThey want Trump to be worse than Hitler and Jan 6 to be worse than 9/11 so bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 01:41 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWatching Zoomers struggle to read cursive makes me feel like Gandalf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 01:39 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMan, women really love when you play with their hair. White women maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating"Men should be more emotionally available, but not like that!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/24 06:15 PM |
| 7 | Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix datingBecause of not for porn guys would have no outlet for their sex drives. It's almost as if that's exactly what many porn-negative people want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/24 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix datingQuiting porn is a common recommendation in self improvement spaces to motivate men to focus on real women. The recommendation: "Isn't it just so fulfilling to struggle constantly with a real woman that will challenge you?! It’s like playing Elden Ring!!" (Paraphrasing, but someone actually said that shit) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/24 06:09 PM |
| 7 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsSo it’s not really going to help then is it? Band-aids do help, even if they don't solve the core problem. Upthread there are a bunch of women claiming that moments of emotional vulnerability with their husbands result in sex. That's what men want: to know that you're not going to think less of him in moments of weakness and an obvious way to show that is through sex. The actual problem is men need to stop dumping all their emotions and stresses onto just their partner and balance out their issu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 11:40 PM |
| 5 | Penetration is essential to most women's complete sexual satisfaction.If any women are saying they don't need penetration, they're telling the truth. Because god knows they aren't saying it to protect our feelings. They wouldn't be saying it to protect our feelings, they'd be saying it to signal thier virtue. i.e. Body shaming would make women look bad, better to make men out to be delusional and insecure instead of admitting that they have preferences that exclude men for reasons beyond men's control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 11:01 PM |
| 0 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsThe sex is really just a band-aid. The real problem is that men need this kind of affirmation from women in the first place. The actual solution is for men to not derive thier sense of masculine identity from what women think, which is a much bigger, systemic fish to fry and not something that you will actually be able to handle personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 10:47 PM |
| 9 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsYou said: I might be reading into it too much, but it sounds like "women who can deal with your vulnerability aren't that attractive" which is a weird argument. It still sounds like that's what she's saying, except now also trying to cover herself by conflating "attractive" (bailey) with "traditional woman" and "popular" to RPers allegedly (motte), which is also a weird position to take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 10:37 PM |
| 4 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsEnthusiastic sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 10:28 PM |
| 4 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsYou hit the nail on the head on your first take | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 10:22 PM |
| 16 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsWhat would you say is the baseline emotionality of your husband? My guess is that he's generally emotionally stable and the moments of vulnerability feel special ---> intimacy ----> sex. Two things that stand out being that 1. There is already a connection there that you would like to deepen, and 2. his emotionality is revealed in small doses or that aren't overwhelming, inconvenient or something that you have to tolerate/deal with. More chinks in the armor rather than full-blown weakness. I thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 10:16 PM |
| 5 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsI tried to do the usual comfort methods I know but it wasn’t enough for him and I felt he was demanding something from me that I just didn’t have. What he was probably demanding from you was some sure sign that his vulnerability didn't make him less of a man in your eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 09:57 PM |
| 7 | Why do men rely more on women than women do on men?Because male emotionality is less acceptable in general outside of contentment. Outside of that, the expectation is that nobody should be burdened with handling a man's inconvenient emotions and everybody knows it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/24 09:41 PM |
| 4 | Theory: What if we as a society, make men's lives harder by design, than what they really are, to even out with women's naturally-occuring difficulties?I think framing this as some kind of recompense for oppression is off the mark and doesn't logically follow from many things you observe. Rather than society artificially "making men's lives harder" it's instead that men are biologically in the best position to contribute the most resources to society while costing society the least, compared to women, children, and the elderly. In other words, men are the most useful, but also the most disposable. What society used to do is make men's lives art… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/24 05:53 PM |
| – | Women will sabotage you talking to their friends without hesitation, and regardless of what anyone says it is usually against their willThe truth is that a very high percentage of men will do something in their life that takes advantage of their superior power to try to force a woman to engage with their male sexuality in some way that gives him a thrill but not her. That isn't true at all, wtf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 10:59 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat's an admirable attitude to have, "I got to apologize" as if it's something to look forward to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:15 AM |
| 5 | I believe Men are severally underrepresented in animated media that challenges sexism.Honestly, Disney really doesn't have too bad of a track record with positive male figures and even deconstructions/challenges to male gender norms. For example, you mentioned Aladdin, which at it's core speaks to the attempt (particularly by men) to appear to be something they aren't specifically to attract a woman. A similar motif of masking presented with Flynn/Eugene in Tangled. The Lion King and Tarzan exemplify taking responsibility and rising to meet challenges. Wreck-it-Ralph, Hercules, a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/24 08:00 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCan you read? I don't think it's reasonable to claim that noticing red flags are about avoiding drug dealers and convicts when the red flags are actually about avoiding weak, boring and socially awkward men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:09 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat's not relevant to what you asked for. There are female users here that claim women are the more empathetic gender, as requested, QED, wham, bam, thank you Ma'am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:07 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSearch the sub for "empathy" and you can find examples from female users claiming such here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 05:54 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIn order for that to work properly, the red flags have to be focused on features common to drug dealers and convicts. As it stands, the red flags that women notice are instead usually about things that make men seem weak, boring, and socially awkward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 05:53 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThey do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 05:49 PM |
| 33 | Can a person's sexual body parts be complimented in a non-sexual way?"Efficient cock, bro" 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 05:56 AM |
| 27 | I think that "Male privilege" dosent existIt does. Just like female privilege exists. In theory. In practice, in modern Western society, it gets difficult to separate such privileges from corresponding drawbacks/privileges for the other gender. Gynocentrism and its political expression (i.e. feminism) has arguably weighted any/all unilateral privileges towards women in the modern day, notably without any major counterpart arguing for men as a counterbalance. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/23 11:10 AM |
| 17 | Discussion: When did the Male Loneliness Epidemic initiate, what are its causes, and what can we do to mitigate it?The major component of my politics boils down to "down with the corporate duopoly" style leftism, but I admit that I don't really buy the not-uncommon argument that the Male Loneliness Epidemic is a direct result of capitalism. At this point, capitalism is a couple of centuries old, and that includes the unregulated, industrialized, globalized, slave-taking, pillaging, indigenous population suppressing kind. But the current "crisis of Masculinity" to include the loneliness epidemic, suicide gap,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/23 09:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: would you feel disappointed or betrayed that a friend wants to date you?D. Other: Flattered by the interest. Understand why she wants to cut ties I've actually had this exact scenario happen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/23 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Should guys take it personally if they have to wait till their 30s to have success with women?Don't get mad. Get even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 06:15 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadthat time period i.e. 2006 lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 06:11 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe ones that get mad wouldn’t fuck couldn't lock down a fucboi | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 03:39 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathread? We regularly argue about women being attracted to bad men. If anything, the hot take on this sub is acknowledging that women can ever be bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 03:35 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's a shit test. You pass the test by being ballsy enough to take the risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 03:26 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadTarget acquired | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 03:22 PM |
| 30 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.Same energy as "poor people are just jealous of the rich" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 12:16 AM |
| 1 | what feminists say the "bare minimum" for men is, is just sexist as hell.Feminism is the political manifestation of women's hatred for non-apex men. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/23 12:05 AM |
| 3 | Did the behaviour from women in your family confirm or disprove the red pill?The fact that she has kids in a economy with limited avenues for women forced her to value practicality over how she felt. I don't think that's true either, and the insinuation that she was just in it for the money (Granddad was a mailman ffs lol) is more insulting than the idea that sometimes people (even WOMEN, gasp) just make mistakes, especially when they're young and hormonal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 05:08 AM |
| 11 | Did the behaviour from women in your family confirm or disprove the red pill?Fuccboi, but loved with her and cheated on her? Pretty much, yeah. She got married to the smooth guy who liked to party. He never stopped partying. Doesn't sound like that has anything to do with your "grandad" being physically weak or unmasculine or unattractive. Sounds like your grandma probably had a bit of a slow time warming up after she was cheated on by someone she thought was good. Don't know what to tell you. I'm not putting words into her mouth. The story that she gave me was that she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 03:55 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadEnjoy your pumpkin spice with pride, Queen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 02:51 AM |
| 21 | Did the behaviour from women in your family confirm or disprove the red pill?Yup. My grandmother did the whole AF/BB almost like it was scripted. My bio-grandfather was the good-for-nothing, but smooth and charming fuccboi, that got caught cheating on her because he came home with an STD. She divorced, becoming a single mother with my father and then eventually met my "grandad" at a party, who she admits she thought he was kinda lame at first. But he was devoted, stable, and hardworking, so she went on to marry him and eventually really came to love the guy, which is why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 02:42 AM |
| 8 | What other matchmaking pairing system do you think could replace the current dating system in place?Regardless of what you do, women won't like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 04:25 AM |
| 3 | AD HOC WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSure, let's come up with more reasons to feel oppressed. Why stop now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/23 04:02 AM |
| 2 | More feminine type males tend to be attracted to "alpha" women?I just want a girl to command me to eat her out while she relaxes and possibly is strong enough to pick me up. Is that so much to ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 04:05 PM |
| 14 | Important peice of framing for male advocates: misandrist sentiments vs. misandrist peopleAlthough, a lot of this is borrowed from feminism, I hope for the sake of my perception of this space that this isn’t an issue. I'm skeptical that there is enough similarity between the current states of feminism and men's advocacy to assume that they can "borrow" things from one another. Case in point: Misogyny is already taken seriously in society while misandry is barely acknowledged to exist and often is seen as a good or deserved thing. We are not really fighting the same battle here, and a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/12/23 03:59 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadStill beats being actively bigoted on the issue like a lot of women so... 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 03:02 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadhttps://www.tiktok.com/@travque/video/7221908167049891114 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 12:05 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'm 5'8" and earn 60k so there is no downside to option 1 for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 05:53 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's the costuming, makeup, and writing. They could do her up like a drunk party girl and she could pass for mid 20s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?I don't think that there is much thought given to what men like in general, which speaks to a wider misconception about male sexuality that boils it all down to "any sexual contact is good." A lot of the depictions of actresses "servicing" men seem to be much more of a statement of how horny/how much of a whore she is rather than how good it feels for him. On the other hand, there are definitely depictions of acts (even or especially rough sex) that seem to hinge on the fantasy of knowing what w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?I could probably write a whole thesis about this, but the short of it is: For the majority of Western, mainstream porn without an explicit noncon kink, the entire production centers on the depiction of (not necessarily realistic) female pleasure because watching women get off is what gets the male audience off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 01:43 PM |
| 15 | Most RP tactics and thought process are driven by a man’s abandonment issues.why aren't men doing this instead of becoming or worshiping Tate? My theory: Because there is no "healthier" way to address the challenges outside of basically just doing what Tate/RP/PUAs/Manosphere says to do, except not making it an ideology. That's the fundamental reason why Blue Pill shit doesn't work for men that are really struggling, even when they try to sanitize Red Pill points and make it more "woman friendly" a la Dr. Nerdlove, Mark Manson, menslib et al. There's just some uncomforta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 01:47 AM |
| 4 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?if it was, it would be realistic Doubt. Porn isn't documentary. It's going to look entertaining first and foremost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:51 PM |
| 3 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?ts about male pleasure of the viewer hearing female moaning/feeling like a man for pleasing her In other words, the idea of female pleasure is central to the entire fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:34 PM |
| 3 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?This is true, yes. And his ego is based upon his apparent ability to please her. His actual pleasure is barely in consideration and never the focus. Contrastingly, in female-targeted media, his female targeted media his pleasure is still barely considered since those stories seem to assume (accurately, I wager) that female audiences don't derive similar ego boosts from how well they service men. So in both cases, not about male pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:27 PM |
| 32 | Most RP tactics and thought process are driven by a man’s abandonment issues.But are they wrong though? I feel like there's this argument-terminating device, whereby referring to these arguments as "abandonment issues" implies that they are untrue or irrational. Except they're not, and I feel like here's where bluepill specifically (and the political left) kind of fucks up and cedes ground unnecessarily. What if you don't pretend that men are just imagining shit and instead really address the challenge in a way that doesn't leave a vacuum wide open for the Tates of the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:14 PM |
| 6 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?From a practical female perspective, sure. But one of the oldest and most common porn tropes is that there is a lot exaggerated moaning. The "acting" portion of it seems to heavily suggest that that the actress is supposed to be enjoying it. How believable she is is another discussion. All the over-the-top "YES! YESSS FUCK ME, FUCK ME HARDERRR I'M CUMMMINGGGG" isn't for nothing. Take a look at Japanese porn if you want to see what it's like when the actress is supposed to look like she ISN'T enj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 10:55 PM |
| 4 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?In both, others are gushing over the person who's meant to be the self insert for the viewer. I don't think so. Porn actresses will maybe gush a little about how big a cock is, but most mainstream porn seems to more be about (the apperance of) female pleasure. The idea that porn is generally a self insert for the audience to the same level of romance/erotica doesn't really hold up, IMO | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 10:11 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathread"Chad Harems" are usually talking about having a number of women on rotation instead of open polygamy. Still counts as monopolizing women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 09:59 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhy aren’t the ladies crying about Stacy all the time They aren't? "She wears short skirts, I wear T-shirts, She's cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers Dreaming 'bout the day when you wake up and find That what you're looking for has been here the whole time" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 09:54 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAbsolutely not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:47 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI don't even remember the last time someone gave me money that wasn't a paycheck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:46 PM |
| 0 | Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman.Replied to the wrong person? None of that has anything to do with what I've said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 04:01 PM |
| 4 | Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman.People use the "real man" carrot/stick to control men regularly for all kinds of reasons. This is a tactic probably every man is familiar with "Just don't care, bro" isn't an actual solution, especially coming from someone who isn't in any danger of having this type of shaming used against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 03:39 PM |
| 3 | Why men will judge your personality and character based on how you dress and act and why it makes complete rational sense to do so when choosing a 'wifey material' woman.It's not "following orders." It's avoiding negative consequences, some of which are not faced by women at the same level of severity that are faced by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 03:33 PM |
| 22 | I'm sick of how much it seems like men and women don't even like each other.It may sound cold and depressing but I've long ago realized that the other side will never show the same level of empathy, compassion and dedication to solving our issues as they demand us to have for solving theirs. This is exactly it. There's a lot of cultural messaging, probably founded somewhere in our biology and gleefully exacerbated by feminism, that leads us to believe that women are the more compassionate, more empathetic to the other gender. That men are the oppressive, self-serving br… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/23 11:01 PM |
| 5 | Do you think men and women will eventually be able to have healthy normal relationships again?Nope. A extreme minority of people will get lucky and settle into healthy relationships. A slim majority will be in and out of relationships with unbalanced power dynamics and a large minority of people will be perpetually single/in situationships | /r/MensRights | 18/12/23 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Article mentions that men who call themselves feminists, are the real mysogynists. And also cheat on womenCan we dispense with the idea that women are always "manipulated" into these abusive relationships instead of just accepting that women are human and, as such, 1. are not psychic, 2. make mistakes often and 3. usually think with thier genitals more than anything else? Like, there's always this mythology that goes along with how women select partners that assigns some sort of superhuman ability on the part of women or on the part of the men they regret. Women can magically "sense the misogyny" of… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/23 03:27 PM |
| 1 | What patriarchy really isPatriarchy is female hypergamy made social policy | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/23 02:35 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: a woman being a bad ass... Turn on? Or turn off?The girl in the tiktok video is hot imo. That flex tho. Capable, strong and badass women are attractive to me, as long as they don't have some kind of chip on their shoulder about rubbing men's faces in it e.g. "Boss Bitches" But women that are tough but also pretty and kind? Swoon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 04:23 AM |
| 21 | Narcissists may engage in feminist activism to satisfy their grandiose tendencies, study suggestsOh, you don't say... In other news, water is wet. More at 10 | /r/MensRights | 15/12/23 05:10 PM |
| 18 | Men's Rights Activism Will Become A Mainstream Element Of Political Discourse in ~5 YearsSpecifically the political left was forced to abandon it's female supremacist bigotry (or face voting booth anihilation): No they haven't. They've just pivoted to getting men on board with the female supremacist bigotry a la menslib. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/23 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Is “That’s just the way it is” a more valid answer than we’d like it to be?You’ll get better sleep at night and, ironically, understand more once you realize there’s a lot about people that isn’t for you to understand. Maybe even the quality of debate will improve once you stop trying to find conclusions and settle for acceptance of no conclusion. I agreed with the title, but not with this. The problem isn't that people are infinitely unknowable. The problem is that people (women especially) refuse to recognize/admit how things really are, and THIS is the thing that gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 10:11 PM |
| 9 | We cant expect women to care about the inequality in the sexual marketplace. Its just wishful thinking.How we do this is simple; recognize and expose high status males for what they are, greedy pigs that ruin and bodies/minds of our future potential partners. And why would they give a fuck what a bunch of men that struggle to get laid think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 09:04 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMy isolation clown has grown fat and eaten the community one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 01:20 AM |
| 2 | How did the patriarchy start in the first place?Women trading sexual selectivity for security | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:09 PM |
| 0 | Why demonize men for “not playing by the rules” when “rules” are inconsistent?but that would be very boring It's not boring. The thrill of discovery, cracking the code, that feeling of Eureka is exhilirating! no matter how much you study, analyze, try to understand, try to create and define rules, you never will. you'll never be in a scenario where you know without a doubt in your mind your efforts are 100% going to succeed, the fear and scariness is a part of it. it's what makes the success mean that much more. there are no rules. And this is where I think there's a lot … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 01:50 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of OnlyFans whales such as this one?More guys need to understand, men are the ones that really hold the power. Most men are hold no power whatsoever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 10:19 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo courage or brain. Or dope shoes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 08:17 PM |
| 15 | Debunking more myths around male victims of violenceHonestly, I wouldn't say feminists lie only because of money. A lot of it is hatred, too. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/23 01:46 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAww Yiss. On this day we are all Florida Man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 11:21 PM |
| – | Men don't need to reveal that they plan on paternity testing."You might be a whore and the mother of a bastard child." That is what a woman will likely hear when her spouse asks for a paternity test. What does a man hear if a woman says "You're not the best man I've ever had sex with but-" blah blah something about how nice he is. Both are immature and emotionally driven desires for your partner to protect your ego, but only one of them is asking both your partner and child to sacrifice certain knowledge of their biological relationship to one another (wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 08:44 PM |
| – | Men don't need to reveal that they plan on paternity testing.What exactly about getting married to someone gives you telepathy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 08:07 PM |
| – | Men don't need to reveal that they plan on paternity testing.It is sensible and reasonable to mistrust people you don't know Ceasar knew and loved Brutus like a son. That mf still stabbed him in the back tho. Trust doesn't actually mean anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 08:02 PM |
| – | Men don't need to reveal that they plan on paternity testing.Why on earth are you people treating keeping secrets from your spouse as some kind of revolutionary concept. Why are women so adamant about 100% unquestioned trust being the lynchpin of relationships? People can be idealists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 07:55 PM |
| 3 | Who are the ones enforcing specific gender expectations and norms again?Classic feminine tactic. "When it's your fault, it's your fault. When it's my fault it's our fault." | /r/MensRights | 04/12/23 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Paternity tests should not be used as a weapon against opposite sex, but as a logical progression of rightsNever going to happen. Hard pill to swallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 07:22 AM |
| 28 | So, Blake Lively is a misandrist, apparently. Is it really getting this bad?I'll do you one better. I think that we'll reach the breaking point, and society STILL won't hold feminists to account. Like, the best we're going to get is some allusion that society has been underserving men for some mysterious unknown reason, but we're never going to get to a place of either denouncing feminism or calls for women to check their privelige/be better etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/23 05:57 AM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Racial equity has always been a democratic movement, including racial discrimination by the police. THat's a pretty broad thing. BLM definitely reflected a shift in general dem sensibilities towards a more woke agenda than the previous stance, which was more MLK-style colorblindness, and I'm a bit baffled how you think it didn't with the rise of people like Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo in the zeitgeist of core blue Middle/Upper Middle class American life. They sell BLM and intersectional sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 11:01 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.The Dems are now learning this... They thought the new young generation was all very "woke" and this is the new sentiment. They were wrong. They were VERY wrong by trying to ride that wave, and it cost them dearly. Were they? The largest mass protest in American history was woke, and surpassed that record held by yet ANOTHER woke protest only a few years prior. It would suggest that there may have been something to the idea that the population has an appetite for woke politics. And through it al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 10:42 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Attraction cannot be negotiated and neither can empathy. Attraction, fine. But empathy damn well should be negotiable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 10:15 PM |
| 7 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADShe is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 04:23 PM |
| 20 | Lesbian Butch Comedian Explains Why It SUCKS Being The “Man” In Relationships and Life In General | Manosphere Highlights DailyThat sounds just like feminists telling lonely men they should just be gay. It's not a choice. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/23 02:38 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe thing about patriarchy is that it isn't MEN with power...it's PATRIARCHS. Places in the Middle East are commonly harem cultures where men who aren't patriarchs also get the shitty end of the stick. In western cultures, patriarchy usually involved monogamy and investing in men to train them to be patriarchs so that they could protect and provide for thier women/families. Certainly wasn't all sunshine and rainbows, but on balance, it may have been a lot more stable than the toxic gender landsc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 03:13 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMore women would support patriarchy if men used it to support and protect women Arguably, that's always what patriarchy was about except, like children, in order for women to be well protected/supported, their freedom had to be limited. Women eventually decided that they didn't like that, so here we are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 02:55 AM |
| 60 | Why is there nowhere left to vent about how horrendous dating has become for men?Because deep down people understand that the only likely solutions to this problem are either traditionalist or throwing the status of women as perpetually oppressed victims into question, both of which are antithetical to the left as currently configured. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/23 12:22 AM |
| 3 | What would society look like if men were less horny?Possibly extinct or a Dark Ages from which humanity would never return. That's not a hypothetical. In 18 BC, the emperor Augustus initiated laws that provided social privileges for marriage and child rearing and penalties for celibacy because the post-civil war population and future growth wouldn't have been enough to maintain the Roman Empire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:31 PM |
| -4 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesSorry about your grandmother. With respect, I think that there are a few questionable assumptions being made that you highlight here. Most arranged marriages feature severe age gaps Such relationships were always one-sided and automatically a worse deal for the woman. Arranged marriages are necessarily worse relationships than the alternative. Arranged marriages involved no input from the children (specifically, the daughter) whatsoever. The negative situation in which your grandmother found her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesI'm much happier now that I can choose my partner, Do you have experience of not being able to choose your partner? Honest question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:30 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesFor the first time in human history, women are CHOOSING their partners rather than marrying them because they are socially or economically required to do so. One of the interesting things about this argument is that it ignores that there are two people in a marriage in order to focus on how women are victims. Like, in most cases, BOTH partners would have been constrained in their mate choices by family/society. Children of either gender were "traded like cattle," to use feminist parlance. And gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 06:05 PM |
| 5 | I call it the "puritarchy"but I'm just left wondering what kind of porn have they been watching. Yeah, there are some some cases but in my experience it's very far from the vast majority. Porn-negative folks (especially feminists and women) also tell on themselves when they complain about porn being degrading, misogynistic, and rapey. There are specific genres of porn that heavily feature female degradation and noncon elements as kinks, but it's far from any kind of universal industry standard. And guess which genres of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/23 05:39 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNgl I'd rather eat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 04:07 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnd God wants us to be happy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 04:05 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDat booty does make a compelling argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 04:04 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou're right 😔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 02:36 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHow do interns figure into the "don't shit where you eat" rule at work? One of the co-ops is giving me eyes and I noticed she has a booty for the first time at a work party today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 02:03 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadPhallusy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 02:00 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:57 AM |
| 36 | The real reason incels are celibate.One reason is lack of professional qualifications There are a lot of unemployed underemployed fuccbois that women complain about. This isn't the answer. The second reason is demonizing of masculinity (misandry). Men hear phrases like toxic masculinity and that affects their mind. It lowers their confidence and self-esteem. While this can be a factor, I doubt it applies in a blanket way to all incels, since shyness and a lack of confidence is a common problem in dating. Let me offer an alternativ… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/23 01:44 AM |
| 15 | I call it the "puritarchy"For example, one of the complaints about porn is that it promotes unhealthy standards of beauty. Except that porn is the one media industry that features performers of literally every shape, skin color, nationality, culture, age group, sexual orientation, gender and even several disabilities. Because of the enormous spectrum of sexual interests, if you can think of it, there is porn of it. No exceptions. Meanwhile, mainstream media such as Hollywood, television, modeling and the fashion industry… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/23 12:46 AM |
| 9 | I call it the "puritarchy"Crazy thing about porn is that, for every negative point lobbed against it, it actually comes out surprisingly rosy and even positive compared to probably every other form of popular media when you really think about it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/23 11:14 PM |
| 3 | Why do you think men are more likely than women to be attracted to only one gender?Because men are only socially allowed a binary (and permanent) lens of sexuality. There is no room for exploring the spectrum of sexual orientation at all aside from the poles of heterosexuality and homosexuality. In practice, anything, including unrealized thoughts and fantasies, outside of strict heterosexuality in men is treated as irrevocably 100% gay by both men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 10:49 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadFacts. I was just remembering how working retail on Black Friday used to feel like literal trench warfare. Meanwhile, my corporate job expects everyone in the office to just take an unofficial long weekend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t?Strategic use of "some" for the more widespread orientation and "many" for the outlier case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Low value guys always pretend they're better than low value women and its hilarious.OK, you show me proof that most people are SJW‘s You're moving the goalposts. You, in your previous post: Most people hate SJWs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Low value guys always pretend they're better than low value women and its hilarious.1/4 of the USA just banned abortion and multiple states are banning kids from participating in LGBT events. Most people hate SJWs. Math. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Low value guys always pretend they're better than low value women and its hilarious.Who do you think experiences the worse social effects of that perspective, male sluts or female sluts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:02 AM |
| 3 | Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t?many women are demisexual in nature While this may be true of some women, many women are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Women are open to dating for potential moreso than men because men take more time to "cook." The flipside is that men are pretty easy to please, so most women don't need to have potential to score a guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:11 PM |
| 8 | Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t?Women enjoy being seen as sex objects, though, just by the men they want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:05 PM |
| 6 | Low value guys always pretend they're better than low value women and its hilarious.Depends on the location. I wasn't aware we were focusing this discussion on Saudi Arabia. I assumed we were referencing the western world/1st world culture like in every other thread in sub. Do you normally just let rich people’s propaganda shape your world view? Obviously not if I'm pushing back on the gynocentric and feminist narrative of gender. But this question is irrelevant to the counterpoint I was making. To paraphrase... You: "I still don’t understand how guys can sit there, watch how t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 10:24 PM |
| 2 | To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why?Women's preference is more rational (income, personality, intelligence etc) while men's preference is superficial and shallow. (looks) Women's preferences are just as shallow as men's are, just over a wider range, and almost contrary to the types of relationships they claim to want. If your goal is love, commitment and a LTR, it's not "rational" to ignore the vast majority of available mates in favor of clustering around a select few with immutable, high-value (but also shallow and counterproduc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 09:41 PM |
| 6 | Low value guys always pretend they're better than low value women and its hilarious.Only if they have the elites backing them. Quoting myself for emphasis: the government, all of higher education, the media, Hollywood and the biggest businesses in the world regularly kowtowing to SJW sensibilites and priorities and tripping overthemselves to validate thier victimhood narrative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Low value guys always pretend they're better than low value women and its hilarious.From my perspective and likely many others, you don’t deserve respect for having this attitude. Not because of your actions, but because you’re so desperate that you’ll sleep with just anybody. i.e. the exact premise behind slut shaming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 09:16 PM |
| 6 | Low value guys always pretend they're better than low value women and its hilarious.Being happily single is an option and clearly these guys prefer the bad option Being single is an option. Being happily so is not. Whenever people suggest to a guy who is struggling with women to improve himself to get better options, excuses come in, the advice is criticized, and labelled ‘toxic’. Bootstraps rhetoric is always a weak solution to apply in a blanket fashion to unfortunate people. “Low value” vs Low value Different standards of value apply to the differnt genders because of gender… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 07:44 PM |
| 1 | There’s no reason not to get a paternity test unless there is some n fact doubtBut expecting women to be just fine with having to prove they were not pregnant by another man is asking a lot. It's also asking a lot to expect men to either not care or accept on blind faith that the children they are investing in are actually theirs, when there is an easy and availible way of giving men that peace of mind. As I’ve said - if it’s medically and socially normalised for paternity to be confirmed, then it takes all of the accusation out of it. I agree that this is something that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Alcohol is a means of coping with anxiety/poor social skillsLike you missed out because you struggled during social events because you didn't drink? Yes. Or I entirely avoided social events that were heavily alcohol fuelled, such as college parties, nightclubs and barcrawls. On the other hand you might have developed social skills while sober that you wouldn't have otherwise while drunk No. Without the drink, I was too inhibited to take the necessary risks to build many social skills. Besides, being drunk only lasts for a couple of hours. Any social skil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 06:10 PM |
| 2 | There’s no reason not to get a paternity test unless there is some n fact doubtExpecting most women who have had children with a man to have no problem being accused of lying and cheating is asking a lot. Even though some of those women are liars and cheaters, it’s making them all out to be guilty until proven innocent and that seems an unfair position to take. The thing is, a paternity test doesn't prove she isn't cheating. It proves that the child is his. The offense at mistrust and being accused of infidelity is really a logistical side issue to the actual point of pare… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 04:47 PM |
| 12 | Venn Diagram of Men's Rights and Anti-Feminism.the theory isn't that men are responsible as in right now, but since it was men leading countries during their (for the lack of a better term) "formative" years, and many of those archaic rules still exist (such as the UK rape laws), it was indeed set by men. In order to villify men in general, ignoring both the informal, and specifically social, power and influence that women have always wielded and that the (vanishingly small) minority of men who were in positions of formal power very often we… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/11/23 04:27 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHonestly, you should probably tell him to stop | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 03:01 PM |
| 11 | Alcohol is a means of coping with anxiety/poor social skillsAlcohol is a means of coping with anxiety/poor social skills Took me too long to figure this out. Missed out on/struggled through a lot of social opportunities unnecessarily because of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Dating is not a meritocracy and it's toxic to suggest single men should "work harder"Men being settled for in relationships and starfish fucked in exchange for utility doesn't mean women aren't attracted to problematic men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:24 PM |
| 4 | Dating is not a meritocracy and it's toxic to suggest single men should "work harder"Men being settled for in relationships and starfish fucked in exchange for utility doesn't mean women aren't attracted to problematic men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:21 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAmber Midthunder as Sacagawea if you age her up a little. (Which you should, because real history has a lot of paedophilia and child slavery) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:09 PM |
| 2 | Dating is not a meritocracy and it's toxic to suggest single men should "work harder"Or maybe your social circle is the outlier | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 09:35 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadProbably would be an HBO Series or something nowadays. Also would definitely watch! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 08:38 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadJust World Fallacy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 08:36 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadGraphs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 08:12 PM |
| 5 | Dating is not a meritocracy and it's toxic to suggest single men should "work harder"Why not move on and search for women who don't want to date losers? Exceedingly rare | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 08:03 PM |
| – | What was your relationship with your mother like?Eh. Could have been a lot worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 06:06 PM |
| 2 | What was your relationship with your mother like?My mother died when I was young. A lot of my dysfunction flows directly from that. For my surrogate mother (my grandmother) it went/goes like this: Are or were you close with her (talk to her about your life, your problems, did activities together)? No. How much menial labor did your mother perform for you past the age at which you needed her to do it (cooking, cleaning, laundry, driving, shopping chores, etc.). Obviously I'm not talking about a mother feeding her 2 year old. Minimal. Cooking mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 08:17 PM |
| 13 | Dominance/Aggression are better than being nice or even attractive for casual relationshipsthere's a good woman every few years when you're trying to be good. And here is the main point of contention. A lot of lonely people's experiences tell them otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:44 AM |
| 0 | Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other?Agreed, which is why it's prudent to understand that there's reality is much more gray than the black and white narrative that liberal = content with the state of modern dating; conservative = struggling with dating and redpilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 07:48 PM |
| 0 | Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other?But the reality is young conservative men are on the manosphere conplaining they can't get dates. How many liberal arts students have you seen on the manosphere? They are not struggling with dating. That young liberal men don't complain doesn't mean they aren't struggling. Rather, they understand that to voice any frustration with their dating lives is social suicide, so they keep their mouths shut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 06:53 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYep, it's called getting old. Pretty soon you'll be liking stuff you thought was gross as kid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:01 PM |
| 5 | More men should consider taking antidepressantsNo, it isn't. They're not magical "stop caring" pills. As someone currently on antidepressants, I disagree...magic "stop caring pills" is mostly accurate for me. I noticeably stopped getting so wound up about things that made me anxious/catastophically upset prior to taking my meds and my emotional stability is much more improved even in really difficult situations that would have reduced me to a puddle of nerves previously. But neither pills or therapy can make your loneliness, or your brokenes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t hate men being vulnerable. These men claiming so just don’t know how to act like adults or date emotionally unavailable women.No way. Step 1 as a man is to not get yourself into dire terms, or if you do, have your life together that you're not making the woman you brought into your life suffer. Or you know, don't date and marry if you don't have your shit together. In a nutshell, "don't be vulnerable." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 05:28 PM |
| 4 | Women don’t hate men being vulnerable. These men claiming so just don’t know how to act like adults or date emotionally unavailable women.There's bropill, there's menslib--those are good places. defining "good places" as "deferent to feminism" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 05:21 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The ultimate reason dating is very hard for guys here is a lack of personal responsibility.Yes, but this isn't my CMV | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:52 PM |
| 10 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIn the end, kindness and goodness are not sexually arousing qualities for either gender. I disagree with this kind of blank-slatist view of how attraction works between the genders. Kindness and goodness are not all that relevant for sexual arousal for men. But in my experience, kindness and goodness ARE, in fact, relevant for sexual arousal for women, though. It's just in the counterintuitive direction i.e. kindness and goodness are unsexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:45 PM |
| 6 | CMV: The ultimate reason dating is very hard for guys here is a lack of personal responsibility.Is there any reason that you can see where someone can struggle with dating and it not be thier fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 04:56 PM |
| 20 | CMV Women don‘t hate nice guys, women hate men without a spine.Part of what's fucked about this whole thing is that, somehow, being weak-willed is less attractive than being actively hostile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 04:09 PM |
| 5 | CMV Women don‘t hate nice guys, women hate men without a spine.I think most women overestimate their powers of discernment. Yes. And also this supposedly clear distinction only came about as a result of women being called out for saying/implying one thing but doing another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 04:06 PM |
| 3 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesSo feminists fight for reproductive rights Oh, but the wailing and gnashing of teeth about paternity testing and paper abortions. maternity/paternity leave Not so much shared custody and family court reform, though. an end to gender based violence Defined exclusively as "male aggressor, female victim" funding for domestic violence shelters Whist literally protesting and making bomb threats to male domestic abuse shelters. an end to patriarchal concepts that conditions men to ignore their mental … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 01:49 AM |
| 5 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesWhat do MRAs even fight for? Most of their real issues are a symptom of the patriarchy that impacts men negatively too. Male feminists realize this and seek to dismantle the patriarchy. The feminist conception of the Patriarchy™, how it operates, and the best ways to address its alleged negative effects (if it/they even exist) are highly debatable. So that's the first problem with the "why don't MRAs just become feminists" take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 11:49 PM |
| 3 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesThere are studies that show 74% of statistics are made up on the spot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 11:42 PM |
| 6 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesNah theres general studies showing women score higher for emotional intelligence, compassion and agreeableness compared to men Yeah? There's also studies which show that women have a higher in-group gender bias than men do and other studies that show that a lack of benevolent sexism in the workplace(i.e. equality) feels like misogyny to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 08:06 PM |
| 5 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesIf you really think that its your social circle. Some social circles believe the world is flat. Doesn't speak to the prevelance of that idea in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 05:43 PM |
| 18 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesTrue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 05:16 PM |
| 2 | The real truth about women and nice guysThat same chick would also call Tyrone a bum or a dog but he's more focused on getting his own needs met; That chick calls Tyrone a bum or a dog after he's fucked her over for the nth time, only to run back to him when he's ready to string her along again. when good guy backs off he bulldozes forward. Maybe stop giving an F what people think or say. So...the advice is to stop giving an F what she thinks or says and bulldoze forward? Sounds like a good way to catch a charge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 04:36 PM |
| 2 | The real truth about women and nice guysAnd they still call you corny and still be down for Tyrone when he's in the mood for an easy, sloppy lay (i.e. That's why they're single mothers lol) Now what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Would you plan a family with a woman you suspect to cheat on you?Paranoia. If you’re worried about something happening without any reasons to worry, that’s called an irrational fear. The "reason to worry" is that there is a nonzero chance that things could go bad. It's called a precaution. Are you "worrying" when you put a seatbelt on in a vehicle? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 04:07 PM |
| 8 | The real truth about women and nice guysIf men don't like particular women's choices, men shouldn't pay any attention to those women. Yet they do, because frustrated men are speaking specifically about women they find attractive. Men's standard of attraction is low, so "women they find attractive" isn't as much of a minority as you're implying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 03:54 PM |
| 0 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.If you think its possible, why are you dedicating your life to her? It means you don't fully trust her. It's always possible. That's just a fact regardless of whatever trust you have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 03:20 PM |
| 22 | Women Love to Invalidate Men's ExperiencesWomen have always been exactly as rude, judgemental and dismissive as men are. Women are arguably more rude, judgemental and dismissive of men than the other way around Because you know full well men don’t give a shit about other men. Or about women. How many male feminists are there? How many female MRAs are there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 02:43 PM |
| 15 | If a man is the type to always want a paternity test, he should make that clear to his partner BEFORE they decide to have kids.I'm not more likely to cheat than a man is so much so that we should have mandated testing of my honor based solely on my gender. But a paternity test doesn't prove you aren't cheating. It only proves that the father is who you say it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 03:53 AM |
| 8 | If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert.women are surrounded by water they can’t WON'T drink. Ftfy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 10:57 PM |
| -2 | Cake and eat it too?Vaporized | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:05 AM |
| -1 | Cake and eat it too?Because she is threatening automatic divorce if he asks for a paternity test. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:01 AM |
| -1 | Cake and eat it too?I don't think I could get over such accusations from someone who knows and loves me. So the solution is to destroy the family, and leave the child fatherless, just because people other than you have the gall to also want to know if they are actually related to their other parent/offspring. Makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 01:45 AM |
| 1 | The ethics of Paternity test vs Go-bagsJust lie, bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: If you can’t trust people, then don’t be around people. Just be happy being single, childless, and friendless.When it’s obvious as hell the person was awful. But what if it's not obvious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: If you can’t trust people, then don’t be around people. Just be happy being single, childless, and friendless.At what point does trust become a failure to vet properly? Let's say a guy is a victim of paternity fraud. What ratio of vetting/trusting would you accept as it not being the man's fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:26 PM |
| 5 | Cmv: If you can’t trust people, then don’t be around people. Just be happy being single, childless, and friendless.Repeating from your previous thread: So do we show common sense and personal responsibility and vet people thoroughly or do we blindly trust them? Pick one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:31 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThis is the best thing you've ever written here 👏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:45 AM |
| 5 | The age limit for porn performers should be 21People will just make AI porn. You can't stop it. Also was porn ever illegal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.I just don't see any reason why they should be mandated or automatic. Because, Women clearly take it personally if they are asked on an individual basis, and this presents an enormous risk of emotional manipulation. It's probably a good idea for legally binding documents to be verified. It's a better way to ensure that hospitals and other birthing services aren't accidentally switching babies (which can and does happen) rather than just assuming their competence. It's supports a fair and egalita… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:29 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.When you have kids with someone you trust you don’t doubt that the kids are yours. An unverified lack of doubt still doesn't mean the kids are actually yours. BE SINGLE. If you can’t trust a woman to not be a whore, then don’t bother. Again, testing doesn't prove she isn't a whore. It proves that the child is his. And so humanity went extinct just because women couldn't stomach the idea that anybody else wanted to know if they are actually related to people that they didn't give birth to/were bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 06:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.People don’t need telepathy to not have kids with people they dont trust. Having kids with someone you trust still doesn't mean that the kids are actually yours. What they need: 1. Common sense. 2. Mental stability. 3. Self-control as to not have unprotected sex with anyone that offers. What is a foolproof way of vetting someone that doesn't boil down to either blind trust or a worse version of paternity testing with more steps? You're a logical woman. The idea of those two highly fallible optio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 05:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.I agree that it is reasonable verification, but there is only one reason that verification would be needed: Because you suspect that someone else may have impregnated your partner. Consider that several children have been given to the wrong families. Consider that we have the signing of a legal document that, when challenged, ends up being (or should be) verified by tests anyway. Consider the potential health implications for the child. Consider that relationships can be messy and strict monogam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Jezebel, the Pioneering Feminist Website, Will Shut DownThe Declaration of Sentiments was written in 1848 and is still used as a powerful counterpoint when people try to whitewash feminist misandry. Same idea here. Jezebel is hard evidence against the claim that feminists aren't hateful towards men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.Trust isn't telepathy. People get betrayed by people they trusted all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 03:59 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDo any number of things to partner themselves up with the men that are currently feeling left out of the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 07:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.By asking for a paternity test, the man is suggesting that his partner may have had sex with someone else. That isn't an accusation, it's just the most that anyone aside from the partner can possibly know for sure. An accusation would be "I think you've had sex with someone else." Asking for a paternity test is, at best, "I don't know whether or not this child is a result of us having sex." Again, it doesn't even necessarily answer the question of whether a woman is having an affair. Unfortunate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 07:30 AM |
| 6 | Is there a way to make men and women equally attracted to each other?There are no realistic non authoritarian measures to coax women into considering men they aren't drawn to. Exactly. Which means that we have to make a choice. Either we swallow the fact that men are going to be at a disadvantage in the dating market, or we take authoritarian measures to balance the playing field. Nobody wants intimacy with someone they aren't attracted to, even men. If you offered a single man a relationship with a randomly selected woman chances are he wouldn't take it. I think… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/23 07:17 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDo women really perceive them as completely the same? No, they understand that it's not the same, but they also realize that fixing male loneliness due to lack of sex and relationships probably requires women to change their behavior, which they are unwilling to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 11:30 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.I don't think most guys are chomping at the bit to call their partner a whore but they can't really square asking for a paternity test without it coming off like that (because that's absolutely what it comes off as). But a paternity test doesn't prove she isn't a whore. It only proves that the kid is or isn't his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 11:21 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.But it isn't. Technically, the child could be his but she could still be cheating on him i.e. she's using birth control with the other guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 11:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.Nope. Have at it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 11:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Personal responsibility seems to go out the window as soon as a man is expected to vet women.A paternity test doesn't prove that she isn't a lying whore. Just that the child is actually his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 11:17 PM |
| 6 | Is there a way to make men and women equally attracted to each other?No. We will need to make choices between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Current gender discourse mostly just flip-flops on these choices to whatever is in the favor of women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/23 06:07 PM |
| 9 | Is there a way to make men and women equally attracted to each other?You fail to mention how men would have had far more leeway than women to select a partner based on raw physical attraction. Not necessarily. Consider arranged marriages, for example. This is a classic case that feminists cite as an example of women being traded like cattle, but they usually completely ignore that men and boys were/are also subject to the same treatment as the other half of these arrangements. On a basic ethical level it just seems unfair to remove that agency from one party but … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/23 01:59 PM |
| 29 | Is there a way to make men and women equally attracted to each other?My suspicion is that women's initial attraction (like men's) is extremely shallow and that they are a lot more flexible than they think. Feminism paints a picture of historical patriarchy where most women are forced into these horrible relationships with men that they absolutely hated. On the other hand, the issue with women's liberation is that it allows for the total prioritization of shallow, immature, and highly selective attraction, which ironically leads women to the exact same types of ab… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/23 08:38 PM |
| 66 | Is there a way to make men and women equally attracted to each other?Not without artificial intervention that will feel like oppression to women. Men are already happy enough to pair with most women to the point that the vast majority of women will have no problem finding partners. Women, however are selective and hypergamous. If the goal is to maximize coupling, sorry to say it, but women are the roadblock. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/23 06:42 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMaaan that shit... Like I'm not trying to nail you on policy, I just want to get a relevant quote and go tf home | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:06 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadUgh. That journalism grind. My condolences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:02 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadJust made it over the line with Transunion. Equifax a real one tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Oppression olympicsquotable af | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 04:04 PM |
| 156 | Jezebel, the Pioneering Feminist Website, Will Shut DownWe should definitely archive it. Jezebel said some horrible shit over the years which is likely to be memory holed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/23 01:52 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWell, what's consistent is that women both here and elsewhere like to dunk on loser men. It's just that in mixed company, they'd rather "hit back" and try to use some kind of reactive verbal jiu-jitsu rather than start the fight. They only "start it" in the other subs where it isn't a fair fight to begin with. Probably biological/socialization. Unless they're ND or otherwise male-brained, women mostly don't have the bravado to challenge men if there is a chance they might lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Who do you think cares more about gender roles when it comes to romantic connection: men or women?Women by far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:08 AM |
| 6 | Study predicts that almost half of all women (25-44) will be single by 2030A man might say he's single. A woman would probably say it's complicated/not single. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/23 12:55 AM |
| 21 | Society's crusade against "toxic masculinty" keeps men eternal teenagers, then shames them for not being menIn a lot of cultures, historically and culturally, the teen years are when the society makes an overt effort to turn boys into men. Modern western society gets a lot wrong here and it's the core reason why we're seeing the crisis of masculinity in young men today. For one, men are not born. They have to be made. Or at least they have to be made if being a "real man" is something that our society still wants to see as a conditional status conferred upon males being what society needs them to be. … | /r/MensRights | 07/11/23 02:44 PM |
| 1 | The Argument That Misandry Is "Harmless"Oddly it was a large group of women who shot this person down and told her that this was not the time for man hating rhetoric. That women needed men right now and there was no point in purposely alienating potential allies. In my opinion, this tracks with what we've seen in the recent rise in public conciousness of men's issues...namely that it requires women and/or feminists to step up to the plate for men's issues rather than any recognition for it being generated on account of men's efforts. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/23 10:26 PM |
| 4 | The Argument That Misandry Is "Harmless"More to the point, feminists and anti male ideologies use men to do their dirty work unless the "enemy" is a vulnerable man or child. Strip enough of that lement away and there is really nothing they can do but stand there in impotent anger. This is where I'm heavily skeptical of this approach (although admittedly, it's better than the nothing solution that I have.) I heavily doubt that we will ever be able to convince a critical mass of men to turn their backs on women in enough solidarity to p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/23 08:55 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYep, which is why the most common argument as to why women won't leave their abusive boyfriend's is "but I love him!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:27 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe OG Augustus Octavianus Caesar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:24 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:22 PM |
| 4 | Am I reading the graphs in this study right? Among young people, (15-24 yo) men seem to have more than double the suicide rates of womenYes. Also, that's just for the US. It's like that or worse in every nation on the face of the planet. Not an exaggeration. Every single country. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/23 08:34 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen would have to go 50/50, or they would be the ones going without. Women are far happier to "go without" partners at their level than men are. The Lysistrata gambit doesn't work on women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 03:41 PM |
| 5 | CMV : Men put women on a pedestal depending on their relationship with adult women as a childMost people know that everyone, including their parents, are flawed and human just like everybody else. I think it's more that most people eventually find out that their parents are flawed and human just like everyone else. It seems to resonate with a lot of people how wierd the role reversals with their parents can suddenly feel when they get older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 03:13 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut also, men could just… choose not to do that and attempt to change the culture to a more egalitarian one. In other words, men could just choose to give up on sex and relationships entirely for the rest of thier lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 02:57 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadGotta admit, as a good boy, I'm somewhat intrigued by women who are actively trying to corrupt me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 01:03 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDon't sell your tits short. Tits are tits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Is it over for autistic or socially inept guys, or can they still do something about it? What are the most effective ways they can improve their social skills and personality?Try to get good at plausible deniability, so that you can make less risky approaches and observe what works and doesn't in a semi-experimental fashion. Also start very wide, slow and general and begin to hone in on targets gradually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 09:48 PM |
| 4 | Being alone is often worse than a boring or unloving relationshipI'll give you boring, but an unloving relationship is way worse than being alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 03:57 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSure. But people underestimate how much of an impact any serious nose dive in gender relations or balance could have. Less underestimate. More aggressively failing to care unless it obviously and directly affects them. Especially if any solutions mitigating such a far away threat very likely require some sacrifice on their part. Or, in other words, it's difficult to get anyone to understand something when thier lifestyle depends upon not understanding it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 02:17 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOr they simply are more or less ok with the status quo and don't give af as long as they personally feel they're getting a deal they can live with. Trying to discuss why we need to (re)balance society according to some "big picture" is often motivated by people wanting to make their personal disadvantages into some kind of wider social issue. I'm not saying that this is necessarily an incorrect take, but the people who are doing just fine have little incentive to go along with those who want to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 11:59 AM |
| 4 | How do you see the future in 10-20 years?Will politics be forced in the long run to look at men’s issues from a non-feminist perspective? Will the left be forced to really look at men because alarmingly many will turn to the populist right? The only way things will change wrt gender politics is something that catostrophically destroys the establishment left. They will never abandon feminism and feminism will never cede ground to men. The best we can hope for is a new left that is agnostic about gender and that will only happen in the f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/10/23 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.Can I ask though, because this concern feels very distant to me, what the scenario that leads to that is? Full disclosure, I personally don't have this fear, but I know where it comes from. There is a lot of messaging in the media, social campaigns, politics, the workplace, and general discourse around that strongly suggest that women largely see men specifically as predatory sex pests (or worse,) are frequently made to feel unsafe and uncomfortable by male sexual desire and approaches specifica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.No no...you we're right the first time. You SHOULD be fine. But on the other hand, that's no guarantee. It is very much is a risk. I agree a small one, but still, it exists. For men that are worried about the risk, I think more actionable advice to them is to give them strategies for dealing with the risk, rather than trying to minimize thier valid concerns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.you should be fine Not good enough for what's at stake | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.Hormons make people take risks. That is my very clear point. If there were no hormons involved, there would be no horniness and nobody would have sex. Hormones influence people to ignore or diminish risks. This is something men who don't even want to try to squeeze say. And yes, there are more and more of men like that. If you acknowledge that there are "more and more men like that" then what is the difference between whatever point in the past and now, if not society? The spikes in male sexless… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 02:34 PM |
| 3 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.Society has been sex positive for the last 55 years or so, since the sexual revolution of the late 1960s. For women and LGBTQ. People still see heterosexual male sexuality as gross, juvenile and predatory, even outside of SA or consent issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 02:17 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on gender roles?I think that they can be an effective way of organizing society as long as they are applied or unapplied to both genders fairly. i.e. Gender roles for everybody or no gender roles for anybody. The mess of gender relations we are currently living in is a result of trying to dismantle or maintain gender roles in an uneven way, namely, in a way that prioritizes women's benefit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/10/23 12:44 PM |
| 4 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.Young men are horny because of hormones. Most men act on that and try to be with a girl. That is how nature made us. "Acting on horniness" does not equal "want to make mistakes." That was your original point. Hormones don't make men want to make mistakes. If anything, hormones make men more likely to ignore/invalidate risks to the exclusion of all reason. Don't blame society. Adapt and do what you can under the circumstances you live under. Take some damn accountability for your life. The adapti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 12:32 PM |
| 3 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.And my answer is: you remember when you were young and people were scary and the risks felt too big so you didn't learn these skills and lessons. Yeah. You still don't want to leave your comfort zone even now. Even now you're too scared and cowardly. Even now you want it handed to you and to be easy. Well it isn't. It never was. The risks felt scary and big but they really weren't. As a kid, you probably weren't going to be put on a list or something for being awkward and making a social faux pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 12:23 PM |
| 5 | Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better.Nature makes it natural for men to want to learn from mistakes in a young age. That is why most do it. Nobody "wants to make mistakes." Most young boys do it because they have an overinflated ego which makes them feel invincible. It's not really choosing to "take a risk" as much as it's having enough confidence to feel like there is no real risk. Unfortunately, some boys are more aware of risk/unconfident about thier chance of success and modern soceity does a bang-up job of exaggerating whateve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 12:13 PM |
| 12 | There’s a sudden surge of openly anti-male content on tiktok/twitter/threads, etc. What does this mean for the future of gender relations?School teachers frequently comment on the change in boys’ behaviors and language, including their use of common manosphere lingo, in the last 5 years or so. If it's only in the last 5 years or so, that means that Gen Z didn't grow up with the likes of Andrew Tate. Most Zoomers are in their 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple and boils down to 4 things, does not involve "mind reading", and coming across as creepy once will not ruin your lifeI'd say it's easy, but not simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 10:39 PM |
| 88 | Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple and boils down to 4 things, does not involve "mind reading", and coming across as creepy once will not ruin your lifeOP: "Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple..." Also OP: Writes a wall of text explaining how to approach without coming across as creepy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 06:44 PM |
| 2 | There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriateWhat works for one woman will not work for another, but that’s the beauty of being socially competent. Yeah sometimes it’s awkward when one or the other isn’t getting the hint, but in the vast majority of these cases you just move on with your lives. Except this defense doesn't work when someone does get offended. Then it's "you should have known better" with the consequences for getting it wrong ranging anywhere from public shaming and humiliation, to reputation destruction, to literal criminal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 07:21 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMother Nature a dirty bitch for snow. Like a real funky ass bitch and you can tell her I said that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah, she's pretty. I'm from Boston. I'd be interested if I was ten years younger with my current job/life etc. I think it's that she seems to be a bit anti-social. If she's going out on the weekends I don't see why she wouldn't have any options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Why are women ignoring men's issues?IMO the issue is not women not caring, it is women (and men) not knowing what is going on. I'm going to disagree. I think that there's actually four levels to the way men's issues are addressed by women. Not knowing what's going on Knowing what is going on but actively and aggressively ignoring, denying and minimizing it. Knowing what is going on and showing some genuine compassion, but only to the extent that it doesn't run counter to the dominant gynocentric/feminist narrative of gender discou… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/23 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Do you think you would exist if your parents had to endure modern dating?Yep 100%. My dad was a classic fuccboi and my mom was a good girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Are men chasing dysfunctional women?For once, I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 03:35 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI like eating salmon but I hate reading it. That L is so goddamn tempting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:52 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSEIZE THE MEANS OF REPRODUCTION!!!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:43 AM |
| 9 | What is up with the term “tingles”?It is frivolous and minor compared to things like whether or not this man is more likely to be a poor partner, cheater or abuser. And your dogwhistle that this judgment is born out of some kind of misogyny is nothing but a persecution fetish. Society at large judges male desire in the exact same way. It's called "thinking with your dick." The only difference is that men are humble enough to admit that this is something that we are prone to, whereas women consistently deny it and try claim that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:52 AM |
| 9 | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonThis. Also, the flipside of "women are caretakers of children and elderly" piece also means that women are responsible for a lot of the abuse of children and elderly. The "men are more violent" argument begins to lose steam when you realize that a lot of it is just that women more consistently limit their violence to battles they are more likely to get away with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 12:42 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNot necessarily, no. The only reason I would think a woman getting STD tested is a sign of trust issues is if she's doing it obsessively. So, if a couple get a paternity test done for every kid, one and done, no problem. If the dude is demanding that every kid get tested more than once so that he can cross verify results. Yeah, that's obsessive, and a sign of trust issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:13 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut this is like, if your female coworker gets pregnant and your wife asks you if the baby is yours out of the blue. Answer: "No. Wanna get some lunch later?" End of. Maybe I'll ask her why she asked over lunch, but I'm not going to get offended just because she did. Honestly, the bigger concern of that is that she's keeping close tabs on the pregancies of my coworkers, not really that she asked me if I had anything to do with it. there’s no other way to take it other than “I don’t trust you” … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:09 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAgain, your quarrel is with the system that allows that. This has little to do with YOUR integrity and good faith dealing within your relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:56 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLike I said I wouldn't be getting tested because it's my body. If she wants to get tested every month, yeah, she has trust issues, obviously, but I'm not against her getting tested at all. I'd encourage her to get tested at a reasonable rate if she wants it for her own peace of mind. Hell, I'll get tested on my yearly physicals too, for MY peace of mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:53 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut the man still gets screwed out of money and his kid, if it's his If it's his kid, he isn't getting screwed out of money. He's providing for his offspring. Not being able to see the kid just for wanting a paternity, yet another failure of the justice system and society, if that's what happens. Take solace in the fact that you were the only reasonable one in the situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:47 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSure! The earlier in the relationship the better! Frankly I think people should do prenups too. But things are messy, people change. Sometimes, people don't know it's an issue until they're in the thick of it. Maybe the couple never even got married or expected to have children but it just kind of happened, as it does sometimes. So I'm not going to say. "Well, if he didn't give her x amount of prior notice of it then, no dice, he's an asshole." Especially since it's not a catastrophic ask, like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:42 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat is this fantasy of being able to trust someone 100%? People are not mind readers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:17 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf she cuts the relationship you don't get to see the kid anymore Not really your fault. She ended the realtionship for an immature reason."That bastard! He wanted to know he is actually related to the children I want him to help me raise for the next two decades!!! THE NERVE!!" you likely get forced to pay child support even if it turns out not to be your kid Which would be a catastrophic failure of the justice system given that you have hard evidence against you being at all resposible for sup… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:15 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou wait for the kid to be born and do it anyway? Yep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:11 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut if your wife of 5 years is pregnant and there’s no indication of cheating why be worried that the kid isn’t yours? Because some people are damn good liars. It's not personal. It's not about mistrusting her. It's about the basic reality that human beings are not telepathic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:09 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMe? No. My body, my choice She can though. Only thing is I might think her getting it done every month is obsessive but I'm not opposed to her getting tested on principle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:07 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThis. I have no problem if a woman gets a STD tests at her physicals. I'd encourage it. Hell, I get STD tests at my physicals and I barely even have sex. TF. She's supposed to risk her health unnecessarily because I "but lurve hiimmm?" No, bitch, get tested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:05 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNobody said she's showing signs of an affair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:01 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHave a discussion. Suss out why. She's not offended enough by your asking to end the relationship, so what's the problem? Maybe you can live with her reasoning, maybe you can change her mind, maybe you can't. Also, she says no? It's not her body. It's the kid's and your DNA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:00 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's not about "trust." It's about truth. People get screwed over by people they trust all the time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 11:53 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's not a "power play." Wtf. It's basic equality. Why do men have to just blindly trust that this child that they are emotionally, personally and financially investing in is actually thier offspring when there is a readily availible way of verifying that? Nobody but nobody gets on women's case for not blindly trusting men, nor should they. Like, it's idiotic. People get betrayed all the goddamn time by people they thought they could trust. Trot out for the millionth time how female victims of s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 11:50 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHonestly, just ask for the damn paternity test. Don't even lie about it to keep the peace. If she decides to implode the relationship because she gets so offended that you also want the privelige that she enjoys of knowing that your kids are actually yours (gasp! quelle horreur!!) then that's her perogative. Move on with your life. If she wasn't lying, see the kid when you can and if anybody asks, (especially the kid) feel some satisfaction in the truth that you aren't a deadbeat dad, but your e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 11:32 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSure why not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 10:55 PM |
| 2 | Who told men that being nice will get them laid?Dating is supposed to be hard, you aren't going to be compatible with the vast majority of women you interact with. So hard that literal children manage to do it, yep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 10:43 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.Is it? The conclusion "IT'S YOUR FAULT MY DATING LIFE SUCKS" (which is almost certainly not what anyone actually said, let's be honest) is incorrect, but is the reasoning behind it just some deliberate made-up bullshit? Or can we trace how a person might have reasonably come to that conclusion? Which is probably a better strategy for changing thier mind instead of just calling them a bullshitter. (Assuming that the goal is to change minds and not just to dunk on people over the internet) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 02:52 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.No. Kelly did not have “valid reasons” she wanted to blame other people for her bad decisions. Fair, you know this person better than I do. I said you should be open to people's reasoning, not accept it outright. Could be valid, could be bullshit. Don't assume that justifications are automatically deliberate bullshit just because you think their conclusion is wrong. You guys seem to underestimate how little respect and sympathy I have for people who like to blame things on other people. You do y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 02:37 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.So why should I only believe you guys are correct when my lived experiences something entirely different? You shouldn't just believe anyone is correct. You SHOULD be open to the idea that they have valid reasons for believing what they do, even if you think/know they are incorrect. You should also be open to the idea that you may not understand the full reality of things and may, in fact, be incorrect yourself, especially when we're involving anecdotal evidence and lived experiences. In other wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 02:15 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.To go with this analogy, why are guys mad they couldn’t get the job cleaning toilets when they allegedly want the job in a office building? Except that isn't going with the analogy; That's making up a new one. The analogy that I've presented is "being upset that you've been passed up for a job that you are qualified for in favor of someone that is clearly unqualified." The analogy that you've presented is "being upset that someone was hired for an unpleasant job that is also very different than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 01:20 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.Why care that the asshole has a girlfriend? Frank Grimes Syndrome. You ever been passed over for a job or position by someone who was clearly less qualified than you are according to what the position allegedly entails? Why would you want a woman who’s constantly dating assholes? It is because she’s hot and you’re mad that the women you want doesn't want you? Why are you assuming she’d not an asshole herself? Is her good looks worth ignoring red flags? Sure, she might be an asshole too, but is e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:49 PM |
| 7 | There Is No PatriarchyThis is why the whole complaint that women aren't in positions of corporate/political power is kind of a red herring. The real source of power in the modern day is percieved victimhood. If you can convince everyone you are a victim, then you get to act with impunity and/or shame others into acting on your behalf and incurring whatever consequences arise from it. That's why feminists fight tooth and nail to make sure men aren't seen as societal victims even as the data shows men falling behind at… | /r/MensRights | 17/10/23 02:16 PM |
| 3 | Women have zero tolerance policy for even slightly socially awkward menAnd what is attractive is subjective. And of course if someone with traits you find attractive is there you want to be near him. Subjective yes, unique no. Attractiveness also includes a lot more than looks. I know. I never claimed as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Women have zero tolerance policy for even slightly socially awkward menThe fewer attractive traits a man has, the fewer women will be attracted to him. That’s not anything women are doing to him, he just literally doesn’t have anything to attract them. "Having fewer attractive traits" does not mean "he just literally doesn't have anything to attract them." Sure, 6/10 is not 10/10, but it also isn't 0/10 either. That women might basically see 6/10 men as equivalent to 0/10 as you describe isn't something that men can just avoid by going for the geeky girls. Instead,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Women have zero tolerance policy for even slightly socially awkward menYea if you’re the least attractive member of a group AND you have no positive traits, there is no silver bullet guaranteed to get you a girlfriend. You still have to have something about you that a girl likes more than other guys. Gonna stop you right here because this kind of weasel wording is what leads to a lot of talking past each other. The issue isn't that a guy is the least attractive member of the group and has no positive traits. It's that women often gravitate towards the most attracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 05:05 PM |
| 6 | Women have zero tolerance policy for even slightly socially awkward menIn D&D, that means the person who is best at roleplay and story telling. More accurately, D&D Flavored Chad. Means jack shit to the less attractive men in the group that they happen to share a hobby with an attractive guy. Rule #1 is always "Be attractive." Deciding not to chase Stacy just means you'll get rejected by less attractive women unless you address the attractiveness bit. Look at what's happened with a lot of geek culture as it's made it into the mainstream. The original geeks didn't g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 03:37 PM |
| 94 | Honest question: why are people in this group not just conservative?It just seems like almost everything written in this group is very aligned with conservative ideals. My support for men isn't "an alignment with conservative ideals." It's a consistent application of progressive ideals that also includes men. Most leftists seem to compromise on leftist principles when it comes to those they see as "the oppressor." I try not to do this. People being responsible and held equally accountable for their own actions. This is the tradcon/feminist position when talking … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/23 03:55 AM |
| 4 | Women's interpreted of catcalling or harassment can be biased based off lookism or ageism, studies show.In other news, water is wet. More at 6. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/23 01:27 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAmerican football at the olympics when? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 07:02 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOof, that kind of mockery is just asking for it. I knew you were trouble when you walked in... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 06:59 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIsn't posting pictures the whole point of instagram? Honest question, I never really got into it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 06:48 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of the very common idea of "any woman who rejects you because of your height is a shallow woman who is not worth it anyway"?It's a cheap, rhetorical trick that implies (but never overtly states, since that would invite people to disprove) that there is an abundance of availible women who aren't shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 04:27 PM |
| 14 | There is a active push to limit the scope of socially acceptable venues to approach a womanAre yall socially handicapped or what??? That's kind of the problem. If the men asking for help were capable of following that kind of "just be normal" advice, then they proably wouldn't need help in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 03:49 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDaughter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 02:04 AM |
| 1 | What would/will you do to help your future son in the dating market?Do my best never to have a future son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:43 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNot to men. "Attractive" = "would fuck" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:06 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadShould women not date guys that they like if they don't inspire immediate animal lust in us? From the male perspective, pretty much yeah. Why would you want to date someone that doesn't inspire lust in you? Doesn't compute/sounds fishy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:04 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSo if there is attraction, Big if | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:01 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadManufacturing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:56 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadempaths be like | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 05:52 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadmy son's favorite series We won't judge you for liking a children's cartoon, you don't have to use your son as an excuse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 05:49 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's an opportunity to stiffarm another h0e for that bouquet, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 05:48 PM |
| 2 | We hear "women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of relationships." Is this true anymore?Never has been | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:52 PM |
| 3 | It's not that women's preferences are shallow, but that they're really homogenousI know people say that “what women find attractive is subjective” -- but women aren't as original as they think they are. I very rarely see this “diversity” of taste in real life, especially it is absent with young couples. Well, to women's credit, they can and do have starkly different preferences, which show up often in thier friend groups. Some women are attracted to rocker types, some to emos, bad boys, popular guys, players, thugs, intellectuals, artists, bohemians, pretty boys etc. What th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:49 PM |
| 6 | I don't think average men get laid that much actuallyThe Chad who has no problem getting any babe he wants yet he is in a relationship with a bunch of frumpy average broads. Not in a relationship, just pumping and dumping or in some kind of situationship with a rotation of women. Also, thinking that Chad doesn't deal with frumpy average broads because he has access to top tier babes is female logic. Men often prioritize ease of access and attainability over quality, because quality usually equals more effort on his part. Stacy is hot but she still… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:25 PM |
| 6 | The body-shaming of short men on social media has reached epidemic proportions, yet there seems to be no mainstream discourse about it. Why?There's a very large asymmetry of social power in women's favor that you're ignoring here. Women already occupy a place of social concern and consideration that men simply don't (which they always have,) even more so now in the modern, zero-sum nature of gender discourse, which pits the genders against one another, largely enforced by women's interest groups, which are often on a hair trigger to cry misogyny at any point where women are not seen as the biggest victims. Even the men at the head o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:45 AM |
| – | It seems like men fail to understand that the attention that women get is not the compliment or even a privilegeMeanwhile, many men are in a position where nobody wants them for a damn thing, much less caring about them or their wellbeing. Being wanted only for your body would be an upgrade to being entirely disposable and forgettable. Like, I understand that being objectified can suck. But what if being objectified is the best you can likely hope for? Cue male suicide rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:07 PM |
| 8 | First Ever Discussion of Men's Issues at an Official Event of the United Nations (UN)It's controlled opposition | /r/MensRights | 03/10/23 12:57 PM |
| 1 | There is no place for men to meet womenLearn to use plausible deniablility, meet women in all the places, and if/when it works out, remember it months/years down the road as your "meet cute" story. 'Spergs trying to follow the explicity stated rules, smh my head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 12:40 PM |
| 11 | Hypergamy is never ending and there’s no way to winLargely, it depends on whether you come off as a failure or not i.e. "do you have potential" Nice, but poor guy stuck living with his parents is a failure and no woman wants anything to do with him. Badboy mooching off his folks and dealing drugs on the side is seen as a potential Alpha that just never really applied himself and she thinks she can "fix him." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 12:37 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThoughts on the "had donuts for breakfast" body type? Asking for a friend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 12:31 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADGiving for me. I didn't like anal stuff at all until a lady had me give her some. Eating ass is now my favorite meme out of Gen Z lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 10:34 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADBased. Alternate day fasting and then eat what you want on feeding days. Lost 15lbs that way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 07:16 PM |
| 1 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADGiving or receiving? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADGotta use Nair or something to get in all the nooks and crannies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 07:13 PM |
| 5 | Ever notice how it's always AI girlfriends in the news? Why not AI boyfriends?Is it any less embarrassing to say you watch hentai tenticle porn than have a AI girlfriend? Yes? Admitting that you have an AI girlfriend is closer to admitting that you use sex dolls, and we know for a fact that the latter happens more than people openly talk about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:45 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menJust no. First of all, outside of a bar or some other setting where people typically socialize, men really shouldn’t be bothering women by cold approaching them in non-social spaces, like grocery stores. It’s just fucking weird, and almost every time, a guy who does this is going to be interrupting someone’s day and likely annoying her. Bullshit. There is absolutely no consensus among women on what is and isn't a proper time/place to approach, and one woman's "inappropriate" scenario is guarante… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 04:50 PM |
| 12 | 45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman in personTBF he didn't say "DEI training." He said "sexual assault training" which to me, sounds like training that is specifically centered round avoiding sexual assault. And like anything else, the quality of such training can vary. My DEI training at work sounds similiar to what you got. But my freshman orientation in college was "Ladies, look to your left, look to your right. One of those men will rape you," with me sitting right next to a girl. I'd be lying if I said that didn't directly increase my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 05:18 PM |
| 5 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…No. They'll receive tons of dick pics and graphic sex descriptions. To find an actual fuck would take a lot more than 60 mins. And all these women would have to do is be slightly receptive to those messages and they could be fucking within the hour. I don't know why you're talking as if getting offered sex immediately makes it somehow harder to have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:09 PM |
| 4 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…That it personally benefits themselves on an individual basis if a woman is exclusive with him while he sleeps with other women. That’s it. That doesn't make sense for men to laud other men for being players though. If my goal was to sleep with as many women as possible, I'd probably want every other guy to be monogamous and settle for my leftovers to limit the competition. But men (and women) are impressed with men that can pull because we all understand that that shit's kinda difficult, becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 06:35 PM |
| 0 | CMV : Women have become introspective about their dating dynamics with men, but ironically over the wrong thingpush pull game was the only leg up for average men and now that game has been foiled No it wasn't. Just being a decent guy in close proximity was enough to get by in decades past until social media and OLD inflated women's standards up to men far above their level. And those are the exact guys that routinely hook women with push/pull, almost not even deliberately, but just because of the abundance of options. Nothing about push/pull has been foiled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 05:56 PM |
| – | The problem with a lot of the tropes that dominate this sub is that few here can separate results from lifestyle.The six pack especially. Even if we could say with absolute certainty that women universally preferred the cut muscular guy, it would still belie the vast number of women who would find the lifestyle completely incompatible. It's one thing to say that not all women would want to tolerate the lifestyle that goes along with a super fit guy. It's quite another to say that she would, for that reason, choose to get with an unfit guy. Being single is always an option. Or just having a casual relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 09:14 PM |
| 1 | As a nudist/naturist, really am starting to get tired of the open misandry in nudist/naturist spaces, how do we raise more call to attention?That's going to be a really hard sell. IME any nudist space that doesn't cater to women's priorities will lose women, and losing women means the place goes belly-up or has to become known as a gay spot to survive. Idealism is one thing, but unfotunately my advice is just keep your head down, and be happy they allow single men at all. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/23 08:42 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Many women lack interest in video games and anime for totally valid reasons and men expecting them to like said things often lack self awarenessThe Sims fandom is wild, and can be almost as obsessed and/or toxic as any group of League players. Full-on gaming community that, don't care what anybody says about it being "casual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Many women lack interest in video games and anime for totally valid reasons and men expecting them to like said things often lack self awarenessThe Sims fandom is wild, and can be almost as obsessed and/or toxic as any group of League players. Full-on gaming community that, don't care what anybody says about it being "casual." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 08:34 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Many women lack interest in video games and anime for totally valid reasons and men expecting them to like said things often lack self awarenessI wrote this in another comment but there's this weird thing going on in gamer culture of masculine games being treated as superior, and marketed heavily towards men, but also women are sort of expected to get into them inspite of the boy's club that they've been made to be, but also many men hate that we invade said boy's club and will try to gate keep us out of said games for being "fake gamer girls". Tbf I think there are certain types of games that have a heavily mainstream, "hardcore gamer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 08:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Many women lack interest in video games and anime for totally valid reasons and men expecting them to like said things often lack self awarenessIm honestly floored that so many guys wanted to get you into male centric anime and games. Same. I've actually had the opposite in my relationships, where I ended up getting into the stuff that she was into. Anecdotally, I've heard more situations where men felt pressure to quit the vidya/anime altogether from women rather than trying to impose DBZ or whatever on thier gfs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 08:17 PM |
| 9 | Fetish or Financial Abuse?I think the wrench here is that findom guys are specifically looking for/addicted to the self-destructive parts of it. They specifically want to be abused, humiliated and degraded. Other addictions usually involve chasing the high, with the lows being a side effect. We can talk about the attraction to findom as a symptom of a larger societal issue, but I think the kink of findom in and of itself isn't so much of an injustice. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/23 08:11 PM |
| 2 | We often talk about how modern culture discards masculinity, but we hardly touch on how it discards femininityDisagree with most of this. If we look at masculinity and femininity as a spectrum, a lot of what modern culture does is encourage men to be less masculine, and encourage women to be less feminine - ie. make everyone a part of this grey middle ground to be an interchangeable cog in the machine. Not really. "Toxic Masculinity" is a thing in popular gender discourse but "toxic femininity" really isn't. What's really happening is that the spectrum of femininity is seen more as tthe default while ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 06:42 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLae'zel Bae'zel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 08:57 AM |
| 4 | Reroll your character. Which sex and orientation would you roll to live on easy mode?Bisexual female: the best class for beginners that want to do a bit of everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 03:12 AM |
| 4 | How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying?Not all women are lying, but many definitely are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 05:16 AM |
| 10 | How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying?Pearl is definitely not nice. That's some real woman thinking right there that "nice" = "agrees with me" lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 05:11 AM |
| 25 | How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying?Because they don't, lol what you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 12:14 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's Saturday. That's when everyone is out having sex (or trying to) in order to refill their ammo for next week's arguments over which gender is the worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 07:37 PM |
| 33 | Why Men Can't Talk About Their StrugglesThat is a myth. Even if it's not a myth, it happens very very rarely. Even if it doesn't happen rarely, is not systemic. Even if it is systemic, it's not feminism's fault. Even if it is feminism's fault, it's nothing compared to what women go through. Men need to stop being assholes and realize not everything is about them. i.e. "The Narcissist's Prayer" made ideology: "That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/23 05:55 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI've been curious about this. How would one go about finding women that are into this??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachWhen women stop virtue signaling, and pretending that they like nice guys, then maybe "nice guys" will stop getting upset at being rejected for being too nice and soft. it's only because humanity has long been extinct. ftfy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachIt’s a very much “relationships are transactions” way of thinking, your not going to be nice to someone or do something for someone if your not personally going to get something out of i Also women: "I am the table. What do you bring to the table?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 05:34 PM |
| -1 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachThe B group is just the A group but more vocal about their frustration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 05:33 PM |
| 280 | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?"The bar" only ever applies to men she's attracted to in the first place. The men that she isn't attracted to might as well be a different species or lamp posts as far as dating is concerned. Attractive men and unattractive men are like comparing apples and oranges to women. Worse, like comparing apples and rocks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 12:01 PM |
| 6 | CMV: "Emotional vulnerability" is true, albeit misleadingwithout ever having to admit that maybe, just maybe, you have responsibility for having reasonable expectations, compassion, and patience as well. Because we can't have that, can we? Nope, never going to happen, and the sooner men realize it, the better. It's not in women's strategic interest to make any of this reasonable, logical, easy or fair for men because the last thing she wants is to allow some man she isn't attracted to a possibility of earning his way into her pussy. In addition, women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 12:28 AM |
| 29 | CMV: "Emotional vulnerability" is true, albeit misleadingAs ever when dealing with women, the challenge to men is "Guess what women want. See what happens." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 07:04 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThis 'judged on things we cannot control' line kinda falls flat with me as an excuse since most men don't do much to improve the appearance aspects they can control Probably because it's seen as wasted effort if you still get disqualified for the several things you can't control | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 03:27 PM |
| 6 | Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues)You're implying the premptive caution came out of nowhere, when it actually comes from reasonable concern for ability and statistical behaviour. Which when applied to demographic groups other than cishet men, would probably be called prejudice and bigotry, btw. Effectively, something like, "Black people are statistically more likely to commit a crime, so, as a precaution, let's follow this Black person around our business to make sure they don't try to steal anything." I understand what you are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 07:43 PM |
| 2 | The spark exists for women, and it drives a majority of their choices in men.You and plenty others seem to have taken that as “looks don’t matter at all” — very few people say or believe this, but your entire argument hinges on the idea that women collectively say this. Similarly, you and plenty others seem to have taken "looks matter way more than I was led to believe," as "I was told that looks don't matter at all." The most rational viewpoints of either side are somewhere pretty near each other in a plausible middle ground, but the gender wars require that we mischara… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 07:09 PM |
| 6 | Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues)Teachable, mask-off moment here, gentleman. It's a constant shit-test. What women really want is men who dare to stand up to them, even as they will swear up and down that men need to listen more. Because if men actually do what women (say) they want, then that implies that women hold some responsibility for whatever happens, and that accountability is the last thing that women want. They told y'all in Genesis. Listening to Eve will fuck you up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 06:54 PM |
| 7 | The spark exists for women, and it drives a majority of their choices in men.Sure, but men will also admit that they go for women purely out of sexual attraction to the exclusion of everything else (which they also get socially dragged for,) whereas women will usually try to deny it and avoid the social judgment for being shallow that men just take on the chin. Adding to this, while men are more or less agnostic to personality/compatibility/LTR viability in a partner as long as she's hot enough, there are a lot of observations that women are specifically attracted to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 06:26 PM |
| 7 | Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues)Disagree. Women regularly use preemptive caution with men in general, regardless of any concrete evidence, from keeping an eye on men around small children, to crossing the street when they see a man coming in their direction, to avoiding being physically isolated with a man. Women are primed to see men as threats and treat them with suspicion until proven otherwise, not the other way around and that level of caution is applied to groups of men just as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 06:13 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadExcuse me sir, not everyone is a Beautiful Prince Man, that is "the fun one" of the group, who is also excellent in bed and has a massive, massive penis. *scoffs and storms off in a huff* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 06:06 PM |
| 11 | Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues)This tends to be because of something harmful that group is doing though. Disagree. Women's suspicion of men is usually preemptive, not reactive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 05:43 PM |
| 11 | The spark exists for women, and it drives a majority of their choices in men."The spark" is just subconscious attraction and isn't exclusive to women. Can you logically explain why you like your favorite ice cream flavor? No. You like what you like. The problem with "the Spark" wrt to dating is that people, especially women, want to be able to use it as a "get out of judgement free" card when confronted with the fact that what does and doesn't give them "the spark" isn't always congruous with what is rationally good for them, and that they should probably learn to make b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 05:39 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut when you date within your social circle... you and your friends know them. If they are an asshole and hiding it, you are almost guaranteed to have a friend tell you about it. So you can lose the anxiousness, relax, show self confidence. But then when you break up, you risk losing the entire social group if the ex is a better politician (read: liar) than you. Edit: Also everyone is going to know how much you suck in bed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 04:40 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadspoilsport | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 04:38 PM |
| 31 | Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues)It's not women's fault if men have no empathy for their fellow men. It's not women's fault if men are worse at creating support networks. I don't know about that. Women get suspicious when men congregate outside of female supervision and have actively attempted (and succeeded) in getting such organizations either shut down or socially shunned. If there are problems that men face, (like circumcision, the male draft, unfair custody etc.) men have the power to legally change them. The fact that men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 03:36 PM |
| 9 | today on r/TwoXChromosomes which — and I swear I'm not making this up — has rules against misandry and "tactless generalizations"The "race war" was practically dead in the West by the time social media came about. The only reason it has reached the divisive heights it has today is because of heavy-handed campaigns by the idpol wing of the Left that (falsely) suggest that race relations have barely improved since Jim Crow, and the backlash generated from that kind of hysteria. My tinfoil hat theory is that this is actually a deliberate psyop meant to distract the masses from achieving class consciousness. The gender war is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/09/23 11:57 AM |
| 11 | How would you feel about an "All men are handsome" campaign?Won't work. Men want results, not platitudes. Everyone's mom tells him that he's a handsome young man and he's going to make some girl happy one day. When it doesn't happen, he gets angry and goes Red Pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 11:11 AM |
| 17 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonIt leads to a lot of bizarre double standards, like it’s normal for women to wear pants but men are laughed at for wearing a kilt. I actually think that there is too much focus on that kind of window dressing. Harry Styles or Lil Nas wearing dresses, men crying more and wearing nail polish, drag and queer men are cheered as examples of breaking patriarchal norms in certain spaces. But there doesn't seem to be a lot of examination of allowing cis-hetero men to step outside of their roles in a way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Are the Red Pill statistics true when it comes to mens struggles?Zones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 04:56 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNope! I had a donut! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that in the age of equality, we should push for a 50/50 dating culture?Women will never willingly give up their power in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 01:15 PM |
| 29 | Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I meanDoubt. A big reason why singledom is considered a valid option for women is because it is seen as more of a choice/the fault of men that fail to see her value. When the tables are truly turned and women are made to feel inadequate, we see similar feelings of self-loathing, low self-esteem, and people pleasing behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a single mother with a dead kid?Maxima Decima Meridia | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 08:40 PM |
| 4 | Why don't we encourage men to stay virginal as much as we encourage women?Men and women both | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:04 PM |
| 8 | Why don't we encourage men to stay virginal as much as we encourage women?A nude photo will ruin a woman’s life, Not necessarily if it's a tasteful nude and, even if it's not, only if she cares about being seen as "a good girl" by traditional society. There's virtually no situation where it's seen as acceptable for men to be nude in a photo, that won't also get him branded as a pervert, homosexual or both. sex insults are only directed at women Male sexuality has been seen as dirty and degrading since the beginning of time, and at the same time, NOT having sex is indi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 04:27 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf I could remove one thing from this earth it would be football (both NFL and FIFA) I'm not even the biggest football fan and this is one of the most triggering comments I've ever read on this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:31 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat even is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWould you rather be in a pool with a shark or in a cage with a tiger? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'd be a THOT with daddy issues, most likely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWait so did he say that he was creeped out or that he thought you were hitting on him or were you just wondering about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 03:16 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe evidence we have for Pontus Pilate is A coin that might(?) have his face on it? Nothing else I've heard that we have also have a part of a building inscribed with his name. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWe literally know more about him than we know about the governor of the province (Pontus Pilate) and have more evidence for his existence. I doubt this. AFAIK we have actual material evidence that Pontius Pilate existed (a Roman inscription and some coins bearing his name from during his the alleged time of his administration) whereas the most evidence we have of Jesus is that a lot of people said/believe he existed. FWIW I do think that Jesus most likely existed but I think that saying we have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 02:26 AM |
| 42 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?I don't think Average guys are really "dating" as much as they might get lucky a few times and then settle in for the long haul as soon as they manage to get a woman to stick around for a while, with the chance of this increasing as women around him age up and watch their options start to disappear. When the average guy is actively trying to date though, I think he's going to struggle a lot in the current market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou're kind of like the kid sister of the sub. It's your job to be annoying but we still like to have you around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadthe people who feel like they have to announce that this is such a cesspit and they're leaving 😂 Like nobody knows who tf you even are bro, don't let the door hit you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBillionaire by miles...Like, what? Fuckin North Korea!? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 11:21 AM |
| 2 | If people paid attention to men who expressed any emotion other than anger, men would probably start expressing more emotions than just anger.The same way men can't take credit for women having stronger social networks, men can't blame women for their own lack of it. Disagree. I think that women have far more social power than anyone gives them credit for in a way that really doesn't work in reverse. Being visibly accepted by women gives men instant social proof, while female disapproval and distrust of a man has repeatedly been shown to be more than enough to destroy a man's life (sometimes literally) since both other women and men t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 02:38 AM |
| 3 | If people paid attention to men who expressed any emotion other than anger, men would probably start expressing more emotions than just anger.I think this is something that women can and should be at the forefront of fixing, at least as much as men are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:03 PM |
| 4 | If people paid attention to men who expressed any emotion other than anger, men would probably start expressing more emotions than just anger.I do think this is one of those problems men have to fix for ourselves though. Not sure how, but this isn't something women can fix for us. Certainly they could acknowledge their part of the problem, and try to do better, but we're the ones who aren't trying making opening up more socially acceptable amongst ourselves. Women can do it because ALL women can do it. Disagree. Women can do it because because there are both less severe consequences and benefits from men for doing so in general societ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 04:00 PM |
| 2 | If people paid attention to men who expressed any emotion other than anger, men would probably start expressing more emotions than just anger.It’s also not untrue that those standards were created by men generations ago. How do you know it wasn't created by men and women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathread"Becoming?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 10:35 AM |
| -1 | CMV: Males are more willing to sexually please their woman than vice versa.Ngl, I was suspicious that that thread was a failed gotcha against men. Oh, how the turn tables. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadTbf Reboot Lara is trash fr tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 09:21 AM |
| 6 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadKinda into it ngl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 09:40 PM |
| 1 | If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied?way more polite and respectful to women You mean back in the heydey of the Patriarchy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 08:52 PM |
| 3 | If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied?You know how you get good at sex? Practice. Hardly surprising that average men don't know how to please if women are all taking turns with Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | What if I'm authentically not happy being single?Make yourself as attractive as possible and lower your standards to the bottom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 07:26 PM |
| 4 | Let's discuss sexual liberationAlso there is an obvious discussion that needs to happen regarding what is acceptable for children to see, and what is acceptable for adolescents to see, and what should be adults-only. We need to have an informed, reasonable discussion of this issue that doesn't equate a 5 year olds with 15 year olds. This is a good point. We really need an overhaul of sex-ed as well. Not just limited "how babies are made"/STDs/Contraception, but also a mature view of the spectrum of human sexuality and sex cul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 01:34 PM |
| 5 | Let's discuss sexual liberationRealistically? Nobody. Damn sure not the Democrats either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 12:30 PM |
| 4 | Promiscuity in women being viewed as unattractive is not a double standard. Lack of sexual discretion is unattractive in general. That's the standard for all genders.The truth of the key/lock analogy is irrefutable, and you all know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadPretty eyes. high-mid, 6-7 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 11:00 AM |
| 5 | Let's discuss sexual liberationHow sexually liberated are you? Very. Was a semi-regular visitor of sex, swinger and BDSM clubs and parties pre-pandemic. Do you think it's okay to think and do anything as long its consensual and whatever people do in their bedrooms should not be shamed and judged? As long as it's legal Even the taboo stuff like woman pretending to be a 24/7 toiletslave for her abuser and falling in love with him or ddlg incest rape roleplay? Or do you have limits on what you consider ok? There is stuff that I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 10:44 AM |
| 0 | Many men only want women for sex and validation, because that is the only thing they cannot get on their ownDepends on who has to provide the need. If providing the need is inconvenient then everyone wants to argue about how it's not "really" a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWoman, you better eat this pizza delivery while you can | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 11:12 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The most reasonable explanation for the disparity between the number of young men and women who report being single is that women are "sharing" the most desirable men.If men exaggerate their sex lives and women diminish it, they shouldn't be having basically the same amount on average, which is what the survey show. If the reality is that average men aren't having a lot of sex, and inflate their numbers and average women are having a lot of sex and deflate their numbers, I don't see how that wouldn't result in them meeting in the middle. e.g. a woman has 7 partners and deflates down to 5 and a man has 3 partners and inflates up to 5. I do not know any man who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 03:22 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The most reasonable explanation for the disparity between the number of young men and women who report being single is that women are "sharing" the most desirable men.Nobody is slut shamed on an anonymous internet survey. It's the anxieties that women develop from wider social programming not an individual survey. Young men are shamed for having no relationship experience or sex. Why do they not have a heavy incentive to lie in those surveys? They do have an incentive to lie. Which means that the sexlessness epidemic among young men is probably worse than the reports say. From my personal experience, it has always been the men who wanted committment and label… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 02:06 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The most reasonable explanation for the disparity between the number of young men and women who report being single is that women are "sharing" the most desirable men.Because it's nearly impossible to have two or more women think you are in a committed monogamous relationship with them. I think it's more likely (and way easier) for the women themselves to come to that conclusion rather than the man "convincing" them that they are committed, especially given women's aversion to being slut shamed and what not. So she has a heavy incentive to see or present a "situationship" as more than it really is regardless of what the guy actually does/says wrt commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: would you ever "go through the motions" to please your partner sexually?What's good for the goose and all 🤷🏿 Nah, The reason she's wrong is because she's projecting. The reason why "the gander" is wrong is because he's extrapolating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 10:21 PM |
| 1 | If women want high status rich men, then why do poor people often have the highest birth rates?Because poor folk tend to be less educated, more traditional, more religious and with more limited access to the types of resources necessary for effective family planning, and yet they still like having sex like everyone else because they are human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: would you ever "go through the motions" to please your partner sexually?Have done, yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 03:39 PM |
| 3 | Let men speak for men | Connor Tomlinson | The Critic MagazineTurned out to be rubbish at the end there. Apparently, fixing dating is about women just being a bit more gracious as they sit in judgment and sexual power over men (as opposed to encouraging women to come down from thier high horses and engage us on the even footing they claim to want) and also to dismantle one of men's few alternative sources of sexual release/expression/exploration that is independent of female priorities so that we have no choice but to bow and scrape to the modern woman. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/23 02:19 PM |
| 22 | How do red pillers explain the average guy being in a relationship?Help me understand what they are trying to say, because it sounds delusional to me. They are saying that the most likely way to get into a relationship where the man holds anywhere near an equal or superior level of influence, leverage, desire and attraction as the woman (i.e. a "good relationship") is if the man is in the top 10% of all men over looks/money/status. Most average men are either in low quality relationships with a very unfavorable position, where the woman is just settling for him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Loneliness is not the problem for Men, but lack of romantic love and sex?? Blaming men for everything is all the media ever does wrt intersexual dynamics. Gallons of ink have been spilt about basement dwellers, incels, failure-to-launch men, the manosphere, Andrew Tate, toxic masculinity, systemic patriarchy, "economically unattractive men", brocialists, Deplorables, "weaponized incompetence," mansplaining, Angry Young White Men, rape culture, fragile masculinity, emotional unavailability, et cetera and so forth. Nary a peep at all about women's or the wider society… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 07:32 PM |
| 2 | Men: how do you feel about yourself? What do you think of yourself?Basically, I've had some childhood experiences that led me to believe that my worth has to be earned, and since I'm average at best, I see no reason in particular to have a high self esteem. Self-help books seem to present this idea of some kind of baseline, unconditional inherent self-worth that is alien to me. Maybe other people have developed such a resilient well of self-esteem that they are able to think well of themselves regardless of their situation, but I just can't see it unless I actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 06:50 PM |
| 6 | What's up with certain girls who pull away when you start being nice to them. But then when you give up and ignore them they turn all affectionate and lovey. What is going on in their head? How do I make sense of this?Sure, he's a volcel, but that doesn't mean he only wants what he can't get. If a girl he was attracted to showed interest, it's likely he'd act on that opportunity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 05:00 PM |
| 6 | What's up with certain girls who pull away when you start being nice to them. But then when you give up and ignore them they turn all affectionate and lovey. What is going on in their head? How do I make sense of this?So he actually had opportunities to lose his virginity, but because the woman expressed interest in him, he didn't want her. Or maybe he just wasn't physically attracted to her? Most guys seem to be really flattered by just about any women expressing interest in them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Men: how do you feel about yourself? What do you think of yourself?The only good thing about me is that I lucked into a job that I'm kind of competent at. Otherwise, I do my best not to upset anyone, and I have a reasonably polite and affable personality. That's...pretty much it. And this is why I don't even try to date :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 04:43 PM |
| 24 | Loneliness is not the problem for Men, but lack of romantic love and sexJournalists love to talk about male loneliness and how that is men's fault somehow (somehow victim blaming is OK in this context). I think journalists talk about male loneliness because there is an increasingly loud chorus of men talking about loneliness who are also moving to the right (or, at least, away from the left establishment) politically. You're right in that "loneliness" isn't the problem and that it's specifically a lack of sex and romantic connection that is the issue. The problem is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 02:17 PM |
| – | Most Men Struggle in Dating Because they Lack "Main Character" EnergyWhy is this called mediocrity? Not everyone needs to be famous or wealthy or whatever. An average life can be pretty stable and enough for many, if not most people. This is true, and you're correct in theory. The problem is that being average and mediocre is often not what women are looking for in a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 06:04 PM |
| – | Most Men Struggle in Dating Because they Lack "Main Character" EnergyWell I think the RP anger comes from guys who would be more than happy to settle down with some mediocre life with a reasonably cute woman, but never get the chance because women generally don't want that mediocre life until they completely run out of other options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:58 PM |
| – | Most Men Struggle in Dating Because they Lack "Main Character" Energy"main character energy" just sound to me like wealth, power, appearance, masculine behavior and status.... I don't think so, not exactly. Maybe in potential but not necessarily in actual reality. Cue 100,000 female-targeted Hallmark movies about some high powered female city lawyer that moves back to the small town she grew up in in Bumfuck, Nowhere to settle down with the sexy local carpenter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:56 PM |
| – | Most Men Struggle in Dating Because they Lack "Main Character" EnergyIn the grand scheme of things, most people are extras in the story of human existence. Most people live relatively mundane lives, where they work a regular job, hang out with their regular friends, maybe do a normal ass hobby, and then they die. I think more men are okay with this kind of mediocrity than women are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:52 PM |
| – | Most Men Struggle in Dating Because they Lack "Main Character" EnergyI just don't agree that men who barely care about what their woman is or does so long as she's hot aren't exhibiting a certain narrative/ main character energy. They are, the energy is that she's not a character, she's an accessory or at best a supporting character with a very narrow role (sex, secretary, maybe mother) No, I think you're misunderstanding by conflating two separate observations together. The point isn't that "men who don't care about what their women is or does aren't exhibiting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:49 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWell, the direction of that impression depends on what we're talking about in gender discourse, doesn’t it? If we're talking about how women are disadvantaged in sexual harassment and assault, then the impression is that every woman has constantly been under attack by creepy men every time she goes outside since she was 12. But if we're talking about how men are disadvantaged by being lonely, sexless and touch starved, then it's that mostly 20-something Instagram thots ponly ever get approached … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 02:24 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBro did you even watch the video? The extent of his "losing composure" is literally just his voice shaking and getting misty-eyed a bit. Y'all talking like the dude threw a fuckin tantrum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 11:32 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat woman talking is right. She shouldn't have stood him up, but a man crying about it is not normal. Nah it's totally normal and human to feel that shit. "Normal" men learn to bottle it up, sure, but that one chick with the big titties is trying to gaslight the hell out of the dude, talking about he's "mentally ill" for daring to be upset in public. Like wtf. That's the most fucked up thing I ever heard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 11:15 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNice. Yeah, I counted just spare mascara as makeup. Still those were frickin hard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 11:02 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'm scared to say it because then I will definitely lose it immediately | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 08:27 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathread10 and 8 no makeup? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 08:22 PM |
| 1 | It’s alarming how popular the barbie movie is.Perfect storm: We're in a media drought where big studio IPs that dominated the past decade are bombing left and right, and there is little fresh, original content. BarbieHeimer was the most on-point viral meme we've had in a while. Because the film deals in hot-button and marketable (read: ambiguously white, middle-class feminist) gender politics behind a plausibly deniable veil of satire, it's like catnip to women who are tripping over themselves to lock arms with one another over it, and men … | /r/MensRights | 18/08/23 05:46 PM |
| 37 | We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man"But you know what? That's okay. There's absolutely nothing wrong with living within your means, there's nothing wrong with living in mediocrity, and there's nothing wrong with basic life aspirations. What men need is a mythos or a story about "the average man" in a positive light, that provides a set of actions and dispositions they mold themselves into and attain. What men need is a modern Hank Hill who is comfortable with his middle-class "I only just want to grill and raise a family" mindset.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenI think there's a third option: Men learning to adapt, minimize risk and outflank women with plausible deniability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 11:38 PM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadlooks has no utility and purpose makes PP hard and giney tingle. That's the purpose | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do we always hear about "unrealistic female beauty standards" when male beauty standards are far more unrealistic?Agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 09:28 PM |
| 3 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?The point is that people went looking for the incel stuff in the first place for no real reason, which seems to confirm OPs point. It would be one thing if the guy posted the data with an accompanying misogynistic screed, but all he did was present the data. Still, some people found it necessary to "contextualize" it by sifting through his history instead of dealing with the facts presented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 09:12 PM |
| 5 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?Yes, but more precisely: You don't know if he's a misogynist until you open the post history. Why did you (general you) open the post history in the first place? Because the data he is presenting is supporting something that misogynists are saying, and if you can confirm he's a misogynist, it becomes easier to ad hominem him like all the others and dismiss the data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Why do we always hear about "unrealistic female beauty standards" when male beauty standards are far more unrealistic?Worse than unrealistic beauty standards are unrealistic personality standards imo. What's worse? Go to a salon, buy a new outfit, and go on a diet, or deal with your deeply seated trauma and reconfigure your entire personality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 07:10 PM |
| 0 | Why do we always hear about "unrealistic female beauty standards" when male beauty standards are far more unrealistic?Tits too big Not a thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 07:04 PM |
| 12 | If you don't find a partner, are you ready to live alone for the rest of your life?Looking forward to it actually. Planning on just taking a world tour by myself. Solo vacations are based af | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 05:56 PM |
| 3 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?This wasn’t a discussion of people jumping to conclusions. It was literally: why is the advice X? When I ask for it. IDK man, OPs title and description doesn't look like it's talking about bad advice, but about bad assumptions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 05:30 PM |
| 7 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?He wasn't a "confirmed misogynist" until people went mining his comments for evidence of misogyny. He just presented the data in his post, and people went unprompted in search of an explanation by digging through his post history, which supports OP's claim. It would be one thing if he presented the graph with an accompanying misogynistic screed about how it was all women's fault, but he didn't. People probably just started looking for dirt because they couldn't or didn't want to accept the data … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 05:26 PM |
| 8 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?Don’t be trying to move the goalposts to how come all unsolicited advice sucks? ?? Nobody's arguing that. I'm just giving an example of when people have jumped to the conclusion that a guy's dating struggles are a result of problematic or misogynistic views on women, like it says in the title. I'm pretty sure that OP mentioned someone asking for asking for advice as an example situation when those assumptions are likely to be made. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 05:15 PM |
| 5 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?What? I'm not mad, I just provided an example that u/Lift_and_Lurk asked for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 05:07 PM |
| 4 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?Whether that dude asked for advice or not, the point is that at least some people seemed to have suspected him of having problematic attitudes to explain away his poor results, which seems to be what OP is pointing out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 04:56 PM |
| 3 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?Sure. But there are certainly also top, gilded comments that are basically just a smear job, lending some level of support to what OP is pointing out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 04:50 PM |
| 9 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/15ren9j/4_years_of_online_dating_oc/ That's an example I just stumbled across today. People immediately started mining this dude's post history for incel stuff (which they found, apparently) probably because it was easier to sift through his comments for dirt rather than admit that sometimes people can struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 04:33 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that.I'm not actually, I'm just playing the discussion out tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 11:21 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that.Must have missed the memo. What if I take action and it does fuck all to improve things? Is it okay to complain then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 11:02 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that.Who's in the way? I thought the "leaders" had thier shit figured? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 10:57 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that.Unacceptable to who whom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 10:53 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that.Not everyone's is or can be a leader. And good leaders inspire and encourage the regular people towards shared goals and collective action instead of just wagging the finger at everyone else for not being good enough. This discussion isn't going to go anywhere, though. Yes, yes, bootstraps, survival of the fittest, yadda-yadda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 10:49 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that."Making the best of it" very often includes taking collective effort to make life better, usually prompted by, you guessed it, complaining about how shit life is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 10:38 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that.Nobody. That's why it's valid for everyone to complain about how shit life is (and most people do exactly that at least sometimes) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 10:33 PM |
| – | The men here aren't advocating for free sex but for a greater chance and ability to get a relationship so they won't be alone, but somehow the people here have a hard to processing that."I didn't sign up for this" - me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 10:25 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAlso it's fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 06:28 PM |
| 2 | The women at sex parties are better looking than menstill ugly fat chicks And plenty of dudes will still chase 'em if they think they've got a shot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 06:06 PM |
| 5 | The women at sex parties are better looking than menAm single man, and have been to swingers parties/clubs that allow singles and most of them mirror your decription of r4r. Average guys thirsting after overweight women, looksmatched couples mostly and/or couples with a less attractive wife that gets a boost just by being a woman. Don't think I've ever seen men as unkempt as OP describes and that's in spaces that allow single men. So much for "vetting" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 06:03 PM |
| 5 | The women at sex parties are better looking than menThe women put way more effort into their appearance. They are far more frequently dressed on theme (hotel parties usually have a theme) and they'll have great hair and makeup. From what I've seen, this is basically on par with everywhere else - most men look more or less mid, while women are done up to the nines. In fact, I'd say that in the swinger clubs I've been to, there seem to be fewer men on the extreme lower end of physical attractiveness than women. Like, I haven't really seen many morb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Women can easily find a yielding, nice guy if that's what they truly want. If women continuously date assholes it's because they have a preference for assholesLikewise, I like many people who are not very attractive, but I love their humor and company to the point I'll seek them out whenever I can. Liking someone's humor and company doesn't mean they aren't an asshole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 02:49 PM |
| 5 | Women can easily find a yielding, nice guy if that's what they truly want. If women continuously date assholes it's because they have a preference for assholesBecause generally women date men they like, not men they think are assholes. Generally women people date someone they like, which usually has less to do with how much of an asshole they are and more to do with how attractive they are contrary to what people would like to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 02:22 PM |
| 17 | Women can easily find a yielding, nice guy if that's what they truly want. If women continuously date assholes it's because they have a preference for assholesOr... now hear me out... when people are in a relationship, they want that relationship to work. So they give their partners the benefit of the doubt that people who aren't in that relationship have no reason to. Yes, which can make a person an unreliable narrator. For whatever reason, a woman wants the relationship to work more than she wants to admit the (obvious to everyone else) signs that it might not be a good match. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 02:00 PM |
| 28 | Women can easily find a yielding, nice guy if that's what they truly want. If women continuously date assholes it's because they have a preference for assholesHonestly, I mostly hear about women who date men they don't yet know are assholes, and they break up with them when they realize that they're an asshole. Except that it's not uncommon for people in the woman's circle to realize that he's kind of an asshole quicker than she does, often without having to spend even a fraction of the time that she's spent with the guy to come to that conclusion. At the same time, women will sometimes read problematic attitudes into other men that very much aren't a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 12:57 PM |
| 6 | Feminist critics of porn ignore male sex workersThey also like to point to porn as setting unrealistic body standards for women Which is ridiculous on the face of it because if there is one media industry that has a platform for literally every female body type imaginable, it's porn. There is porn of BBW, SSBBW, Little People, all kinds of disabilities, every single race and ethnicity, every single combination of skin, hair and eye color. Every single gender identity, sexual orientation, and ages ranging from 18-80. The porn industry arguably… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”?You’re exploiting vulnerable women The last stripper I met that offered "extras" allegedly had two apartments, no kids, was a regular traveler, and made about $1200 on 3 hours of work on a Wednesday. Meanwhile, here I am, making less than 2x minimum wage, living with family, 40K in debt, paying a premium to touch a boob. Am I an idiot? Yes. Is she the vulnerable one being exploited? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”?It is no secret that men have exerted control over women for thousands of years It is no secret that hatred of men is rooted in the lasting effects of this control over women Both points highly questionable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 02:57 PM |
| 1 | We often talk about women being entitled, misandric and anti-MRM, but we fail to acknowledge that most men have those same viewsThere is no doubt that our opinions are similar. My primary objection to this is because, in my opinion, we shouldn't have to pick between liberating men from societal expectation and encouraging men to embrace masculinity because, in reality, those are two distinct issues. One thing that many feminists seem to have done well is embracing a view where it's okay for a woman to exist anywhere on the spectrum between rejecting or embracing traditional femininity. Contrastingly, a lot of feminist id… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 12:04 AM |
| 1 | We often talk about women being entitled, misandric and anti-MRM, but we fail to acknowledge that most men have those same viewsI just think it’s blinkered when the same people recommending that also moan about male suicide and the like; the two are literally causally linked. I'd argue that male suicide is very often a result of failing to live up to masculine expectations or, more specifically, the fact that society tends to ostracize men that are failing to perform traditional masculinity. In that way, complaining about male suicide and the like is very congruent with also recommending adopting traditional masculinity … | /r/MensRights | 10/08/23 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Can porn and masturbation discourage men from getting sex?I think that there are two common readings between the lines of this type of question: Is porn usage responsible for sexlessness because it makes men disinterested in sex with real women? Answer: No. If a man wants sex enough, he's going to pursue it, because porn isn't a substitute for sex. Is adequate sex enough to discourage men from using porn? Answer: No. If a man wants to watch porn, he's going to watch porn, because sex isn't an substitute for porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 03:17 PM |
| 2 | We often talk about women being entitled, misandric and anti-MRM, but we fail to acknowledge that most men have those same viewsSo there’s often a lot of pointing out stuff like how women are delusional due to all chasing six figures, how they judge men for their physique/height/baldness and how women complain of a pay gap, but there is no real discussion of “what do we do to change this?”. I see what you're saying, but I think that the problem is that there is an argument that there isn't really much that can be done, especially wrt to the dating issues that red-pill types focus on. The idea is that despite what women a… | /r/MensRights | 10/08/23 12:57 PM |
| 6 | "Men always ruled the world, women had to fight for suffrage" is feminist bullshitBoth queens were extremely influential, that's absolutely right, but that doesn't change the fact that men have held way more power than women. What is "power" if not extreme influence? The mistake that most people make in "keeping score" between which gender has been more often heads of state is two three four-fold: First, in that it wrongly assumes that nominal positions and titles of authority always translate to actual power when there are many, many examples, historically and today, when th… | /r/MensRights | 09/08/23 09:07 PM |
| 24 | "Men always ruled the world, women had to fight for suffrage" is feminist bullshitLets talk about the crown in England, there have only been eight reigning queens of England, including Queen Elizabeth II, compared to dozens of Kings. And how many of those kings were so influential that they got an entire historical age popularly named for them? In fact, the ONLY monarchs that did were both queens, Elizabeth I and Victoria. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/23 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDismissive Avoidant Gang rise up and stay tf away from each other!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAh wash mahself with a rag on a stick | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYes but how to find a festival tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 01:56 PM |
| 3 | Q4M - an average looking girl is DESPERATE to date you. How do you feel about it?How would you feel about that? Flattered! Does her desperation reduce her attractiveness? Nope! She desperately wants to date you. She will cancel any plans with her friends to make herself available for you. Laughs at all your jokes no matter what. Buys YOU stuff. All signs say she reeks of desperation None of this would do it. She would have to do some extreme, psycho, Overly Attached Girlfriend shit to weird me out. Like getting a tattoo or building a shrine of me like Helga or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 11:43 AM |
| 3 | Venting about frustrations in NSFW/Kink spaces.As someone who has been involved in those kinds of spaces, I've found that it mirrors the same choice as in politics. You either have the left-leaning spaces that are actively and rabidly misandric, or the right-leaning spaces that still enforce traditionalist views of gender, but can ironically be more moderate/even handed in it's oppression. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/23 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI have no idea how one actually finds these things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 07:29 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen who steal your fries after saying they aren't hungry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadPower outage while you're winning the boss battle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 12:45 AM |
| 13 | Why Men Are Resentful of The Way Women's Sexuality (Often) WorksThe rejection is about how they feel undesirable. They want us to see them how they see us. But for women, it’s just simply not that way. I think this goes beyond just sex. Tangent, but I think this describes what is very hurtful about (rad) feminist rhetoric for a lot of guys. The notion that men are these brutes that deliberately engineered society to oppress women. That we are all misogynistic and dangerous and abusive. When the reality is...we freaking love you. Most men absolutely adore wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 12:34 AM |
| 15 | When Rhode Island accidentally legalized prostitution, rape decreased sharplyBecause if men enjoy it, that means it must be misogynistic somehow, obvs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 10:51 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadso pretty much everything they propose will never be implemented. Also because menslib is little more than feminist-controlled opposition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 11:21 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDid you not get the memo? Dubya is a good guy now that paints and sneaks you candy in church. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 11:19 AM |
| 2 | Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic?I think the biggest thing that men need to learn is how to disagree, how to be in their own corner first and foremost and how to not cower whenever people (esp. women) try to shame them for being "toxic" and "misogynistic" for wanting to stand up for themselves. Understand that those kinds of tactics will be used to control you regardless of whether your behavior warrants it, precisely because of how powerful that kind of shaming is. Develop a clear understanding of what your own moral compass i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAI putting us all out of work here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Take the Robot Test and Let's Share and Compare Results75 cyborg | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/23 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadScissoring? Just right there in the street? Girl you a freak | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 10:53 PM |
| 1 | A man needs women’s approval. If women like him, they make his life better.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia | /r/MensRights | 27/07/23 04:18 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP and the manosphere over-analyzes dating to the point that it’s detrimentalTrying to dissect what women and men do/don’t find attractive is forcing you to take an analytical approach puts you in a headspace that makes it very difficult for you to connect and vibe with people How about "vibe" is just what people call it that can't or don't want/need to analyze and explain it logically or systematically. People used to think that the sun rose every day because of God's unknowable ways. Didn't mean that the sun's rising wasn't actually perfectly logical if you took the ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 09:07 PM |
| 3 | Is Misandry Real?Unicorn | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 11:19 AM |
| -31 | Elon Musk joins backlash against Barbie film's portrayal of anti-man feminism saying.Musk was always popular with the "incel-adjacent" engineer techbro types, so I think that most liberal women already had some latent distaste for him. The Twitter acquisition just lit the match. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/23 01:45 PM |
| 4 | A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stability🤷♂️ One woman's "fun" is another's "too exciting" is another's "too boring." Like BP's often say on here, "women aren't a monolith." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 01:26 PM |
| 6 | A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stabilitySure. But there's this repeated problem across several areas of dating where what women generally tend to advise is that men play it completely safe, on pain of social humiliation or worse, but then what they actually want and respond to is something less than safe. Men are constantly in this position where they have to: 1. Take what women/social decorum et al. say they should do with a heavy grain of salt if they want to be successful at all 2. Risk the (potentially substantial) consequences of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 01:14 PM |
| 5 | A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stabilityI have no idea this place acts like it's CRAZY for people to want to have fun on their dates. Like - no! No, it's literally not going to be as fun to be on a date with a "boring, dependable guy". I think the point is that what a lot of women feel to be the most "fun" is some level of flirting with danger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 12:47 PM |
| 66 | Where and when did feminism go astray?From the 1848 Declaration of Sentiments at Seneca Falls, often considered to be the foundation of the US women's rights movement: The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her. From the very foundation, the movement is predicated on the wickedness of men and blaming them for the existence of a male-led female-victimized patriarchy. Misandry is baked in. They have … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/23 08:30 PM |
| – | Women don't want 'fuckboys' , but they aren't attracted to men who don't the capabilities to be oneThis isn't really much different from men. If a woman is physically attractive enough, she'll always have a large pool of men to choose from. Except men tend to get more turned off the more a woman has indulged in that pool of men. Men want a woman that is attractive to them personally, full stop. Whether or not other men are attracted to her is immaterial, at best, anxiety-inducing at worst. Women want a man that is attractive to other women (and who has acted on that attraction) to a degree th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 07:45 PM |
| 5 | Democrat repositioning on masculinity continuesIt's exactly why I do not respect him. Yep it's right out of the menslib playbook. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/23 10:48 AM |
| 3 | Nice Guys are really just lazy.I not only question this claim—yes some women lie about this If you admit that at least some women lie, then the entire point that Nice Guys are making is basically vindicated. Your entire post falls apart right here, but let's continue these days so many women are openly saying they want 6ft, 6 figure, 6 pack that it has become a trope in and of itself. Exactly..."these days." And the only reason they are openly saying it now is because they know Nice Guys and Red Pillers will call them out on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 05:13 PM |
| 5 | @thetinmen is leaving r/leftwingmaleadvocatesIt's heartbreaking. The truth is that u/TheTinMenBlog didn't add anything new to what men's advocates have been saying for years. He simply dispels the myth that we're all irrational, fervently sexist incels screaming on the internet with his appealing, ingestible, and level-headed presentation skills. Regardless of what actually occurred, the optics of this situation are terrible and seriously damage both his (and, by extension, the sub's) reputation for calm reason, especially because u/TheTin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/23 11:21 AM |
| 4 | What are these “ movies and media” that everyone always references for blue pillWomen falls for a fun poor guy cause he literally looks like Leonardo DiCaprio. No, women in the audience fell for Jack because he's a young Leonardo DiCaprio. The movie goes out of its way to show that Rose fell for Jack because he was a worldly, deep, charming and morally superior person compared to her douchebag (but rich and also handsome) fiancé, and others like him from her upper crust social circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 05:43 PM |
| 7 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.If a guy doesn't express romantic interest, a woman won't be interested. The female sexuality hinges on being the subject of desire. Women never have crushes? That's news... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 07:02 PM |
| 8 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinitya word that has no objective definition anyway. ????????? From Oxford: mas·cu·line adjective having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with men or boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 05:24 PM |
| 20 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinityEhhh...I'd say you are still masculine in the more static, fundamental ways and feminine in superficial ways that might appeal to women that prefer a couple of pumps of genderqueer in thier Alpha male latte. That's not "confident comfortable in your skin." That's just Chad with glitter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 05:05 PM |
| 12 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinityIt's one thing to say that they aren't proxies for each other. It's another to say they have nothing to do with one another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 04:49 PM |
| 14 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinityLooking attractive or masculine has nothing to do with masculinity. ????? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinityWomen just stay mad about not getting sweet pockets for their dresses, that's what | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 04:36 PM |
| 27 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinityIf she thinks he's cute or handsome and masculine-looking but he ends up being an immature nerdy dork: ick. Doesn't really have anything to do with masculinity. ??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 04:26 PM |
| 2 | CMV Man didnt get worse if you compare men from 1950 to 2022, but if you compare Women from 1950 to 2022 you will see a INSANE decrease in "Dating Partner Quality." I am very curious if someone can prove to me that "back in the day" men were better, but i dont believe it.They seem to think Well, what do you think? Do they represent most men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 02:31 PM |
| 2 | CMV Man didnt get worse if you compare men from 1950 to 2022, but if you compare Women from 1950 to 2022 you will see a INSANE decrease in "Dating Partner Quality." I am very curious if someone can prove to me that "back in the day" men were better, but i dont believe it.So are men on this sub average men, and therefore validated when they say that their difficulties with the modern sex and dating ecosystem are widespread? Or are they below average men, and therefore, their opinions and struggles are not representative of most men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 02:22 PM |
| 2 | CMV Man didnt get worse if you compare men from 1950 to 2022, but if you compare Women from 1950 to 2022 you will see a INSANE decrease in "Dating Partner Quality." I am very curious if someone can prove to me that "back in the day" men were better, but i dont believe it.While men are fatter and not as well dressed, which is the trend for both genders, they are also: Better educated; More progressive; More productive; Have higher numerical salaries (that inflation has decreased spending power isn't the average man's fault) More sensitive to women's issues; More willing to subvert traditional gender roles; More willing to support women's empowerment; More willing to engage in egalitarian relationships; More concerned with women's physical/emotional requirements o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthLiterally just speak up like a normal person when you want to get something off your chest. You’ll feel better and chicks dig it! Also don’t act like a petulant whiny little shrieking baby about it. That makes you look stupid and pathetic. That’s it! Why is that hard? Because your definition of "speak up like a normal person" and "acting like a petulant whiny little shrieking baby" aren't everyone's definitions of those things. It's subjective. One person's emotional regulation may look robotic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthIt's not about men or women like i would vanish from a girls life if she expressed her feelings like this. No, you're 100% right. People should be able to regulate their emotions, and yelling at a partner is unacceptable. But women are usually not trying to police men's emotional expression from that direction. Usually, women are complaining about a guy who emotionally regulates too much for her liking. Women usually ask men to open up and be vulnerable. And when a man listens, he usually oversh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:34 PM |
| 3 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthYes, exactly, what we want is for people to express emotions while remaining in control of them. Like Guy 3. That’s a healthy part of being a rational, civilized grownup. In other words, what you really want is for people to express their emotions appropriately. There are a couple of problems with this, however. First, what counts as "appropriate" can be very subjective and situational, and depends on the abilities, personality, opinions and proclivities individual people involved. Second, women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 07:31 PM |
| 3 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthControlling yourself in a particular way, especially according to the direction/expectations of someone else, is exactly what performance means. What's really being asked for isn't "honesty" but rather for one partner to emote in a way that the other partner deems "correct." It might be the case that one person's honest emotional expression would be acceptable to the other, but it just as likely might not be. The real issue, then, isn't emotional honesty. It's how compatible they are with their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental health"Low bar" or no, it's still a performance, and therefore antithetical to the emotional intimacy women are asking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 02:14 PM |
| 11 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthI think your comment actually illustrates why it's such a problem when women prompt men to be more vulnerable, emotionally expressive, etc. The idea seems to be that there is this sweet spot in between stoicism and emotionality (i.e. "Guy 3") that men can just actively decide to express. The desire here, ostensibly, is that women would like more intimacy through emotional honesty. The problem is that you are still asking men to perform, and performance is the opposite of intimacy and honesty. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Most people are too punishing over insignificant issues but too accepting of enormous glaring onesOn your one hand women are TOTALLY INDISCRIMINATE about who they let knock them up, and that's why single mothers are trash; However, if women are picky and vet anyone they get involved with carefully they are hiding an inferiority complex, and trying to be "Queen of the Universe". Or...hear me out...maybe the argument is that women are being picky about the wrong things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 09:08 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDang, you're really into sex. Kinda thought your comments were just for the lols. I'm here for it; sexually liberated attitudes are cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4A What female body type do you find the most attractive?Can't really choose...I'd be tempted cheat on every one of these girls with the others. But... Least attractive: 3 most attractive: 2 with 4 as a damn close second | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever had a close, heterosexual female platonic friend before?Yes, my closest friends have all been girls. The only person I still talk to from HS is a woman. Were there any times it got bad? Nope. Did she ever try to date you? A few did, but I didn't realize it until long after we went our separate ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 08:51 PM |
| 1 | What would dating look like if there was no fear of sexual violence?Oh yeah? Which one is visibly aroused, and which is genuinely having an orgasm? I wouldn't call a gay man on Viagra who has to go offset for 15 min to jerk himself to the edge of orgasm "prioritizing his pleasure." There is zero need to interact with women who would never give them the time of day other than to fuck with their sense of propriety and safety. Women hate it, men know it. Women fear men who act sexually aggressively towards strangers. Men aren't mind readers. You never really know w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 06:40 PM |
| 1 | What would dating look like if there was no fear of sexual violence?It means he will be welcomed rather than ignored or regarded as a clingy risk or a sex pest. Again, it really doesn't. Without offering or providing some kind of value, no one is going to notice or care about the guy. Being thought of as clingy or a sex pest doesn't come from some fear that this person is going to sexually assault you, but rather from the fact that you simply aren't amenable to being intimate with that person. It's disgust/annoyance, not fear. Men know the difference between an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 06:02 PM |
| 7 | If you struggle with dating, you are BELOW averageThis story is not common, but it does exist. Many men see themselves as average. And, on paper, they are average. They have jobs, not fat, decent social skills, but somehow they struggle with dating. If this happens to you, the cruel pill to swallow is that you are BELOW average. Somewhere, something goes wrong about you. There's a bit of circular reasoning here in that you are implicitly defining "average" as "doesn't struggle with dating." Rather, consider that success with dating is a separat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 05:08 PM |
| 1 | What would dating look like if there was no fear of sexual violence?So men don’t actually want to be included and acknowledged, they don’t want platonic friends or friendly compliments at all, that is just a big lie men spread in an attempt to guilt women into validating them sexually. I'm not sure how you got that out of my comment. Allow me to reiterate. Being seen as a "generic person" for a man does not mean that he will automatically be included and acknowledged, that people will compliment him more, or that he will have more platonic friends. Perhaps that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 04:30 PM |
| 1 | What would dating look like if there was no fear of sexual violence?If a woman isn’t looking or interested in certain men, she isn’t ignoring them, she’s regarding them as people. Generic people, same as women. I'm speaking to your claim that removing the fear of sexual violence would "solve the problem of male invisibility overnight." Except, by your own admission, the only thing that might happen is that men would be upgraded from being threatening to generic. Generic people are generally ignored and invisible, so removing the threat of sexual violence would d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 02:24 PM |
| 3 | What would dating look like if there was no fear of sexual violence?Women would be far more receptive to advances from strangers, far less guarded in general. This would solve the problem of male invisibility overnight. Women would be more likely to smile and interact with men as they do women, in a friendlier, more welcoming fashion. Men would no longer be on the hunt, no longer viewed as sex pests or entitled to female audience and attention. Disagree with both of these. Men are ignored/avoided/viewed as sex pests mostly because they are unattractive. Removing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 12:42 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSMH Imagine getting ice cream from a chain restaurant instead of a cow farm or Mom n' pop parlor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 06:42 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah. At 5'8" I'm the shortest male of everybody on my dad's side of the family. My younger sister (we have the same dad) is 3in taller than me lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 07:24 PM |
| 31 | Is the Nice Guy misunderstood or am I projecting?Yes, you were the most common version of Nice Guy. Most men that are labeled "Nice Guys" and dragged on the internet are similar to you - a bit shy, inhibited and holding the belief that treating women like any other platonic friend might lead to a relationship eventually. The negative stereotype of a "Nice Guy" (i.e. an entitled covert asshole that is only pretending to be nice for sex) is a deliberate mischaracterization of situations such as yours, for the express purpose of avoiding the disc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 05:34 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNah boredom is peaceful. Negative emotions suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 02:08 AM |
| – | Why are "happily married" people browsing these subs?To feel superior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:13 PM |
| – | CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident.Saying that men and women might generally have different preferences is probably outside of the definition of misogyny, but ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident.solid argument. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 03:10 PM |
| -2 | CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident.Men and women aren't all that different. We like being in a rollercoaster of emotions, we mistake uncertainty and anxiety with attraction and chemistry sometimes. This works for both genders. Hard disagree. Women like emotional rollercoasters. Men like peace in their relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 03:04 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident.Or do men have bad experiences with women because all of them are horrid, while women have some bad experiences with men because women are horrid again? Which is it? Option C: Having bad experiences is not correlated to being a bad person. So, it's not that just "bad, damaged women" that are attracted to bad men, as women and bluepillers claim. Rather, something is likely attractive about bad men to a wide range of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 01:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident.Some women are attracted to bad men. Those women tend to be bad women, and value bad things. Sure. Which is why almost every woman has at least one fuccboi experience. Because it's only "bad women" that are attracted to those guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOther way around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadwatching random people hot women eat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 11:43 PM |
| 22 | Many men still clueless as to how to attract/date women, despite there being more information than ever on how to do so - why?Even this sub; it’s full of women telling you what is and isn’t acceptable/desired. Twitter is full of women talking about their day to day lives, dating, etc - literally first hand accounts. TikTok the same, a treasure trove of information. Because all that "information" is, at best, half-truths meant mostly to protect the women's egos, not to help loser men learn how to be attractive. Always has been. The only reason some of it is (a little) more useful now than in decades past is because the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 04:09 PM |
| 7 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVThat’s not true lots of men say they don’t like slutty women, but they will get with them if they’re hot enough. I'll give you partial credit for that. Men (primarily in manosphere spaces) will talk shit about slutty women but still love to fuck them, and I think that's a kind of parallel to the virtue signalling that women do. That said, men generally aren't arguing that looks matter less than bodycount. Men are very upfront about focusing on looks above pretty much everything else. It's a good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 12:57 AM |
| 38 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVNobody is really at fault for this Untrue. Men generally have no problem honestly communicating what they are attracted to even though society will exaggerate/demonize us for it. But what women want? Oh it has to be this cryptic double-speak. Why? We're supposed to be equals right? My theory: because what women are attracted to paints them in a less than sympathetic light and shatters the idea that women are just and righteous arbiters of male value, and nobody in society really wants to come to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:17 PM |
| 0 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVDEFINITELY can come off as clingy. Often, those kinds of things work much better when they're used sparingly and meaningfully rather than as a constant thing or as an application of some kind of strategy for "treating her right." My advice would be do those things when you feel like it/when the moment is right. Don't try to pass those off as how to "do a relationship" correctly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:01 PM |
| 5 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVHard disagree. At best, (at BEST!) women want a guy who probably isn't going to cheat on/abuse them, but beyond that, being "nice" is so meaningless it's not even worth mentioning. In fact, giving any advice about being nice is often actively detrimental, as being nice beyond anything but basic, normal human decency is probably going to turn her off, if anything, and being a little "less than nice" or having a bit of an edge can often intrigue women. And depending on a guy's levels of stuff that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themIt doesn't matter if they are "just trying to do the right thing", chivalry and reticence don't obligate mutual attraction and it's high time men admit those actions are performative. I didn't say that it did. Don't want to fuck those guys, fine. But what these men don't deserve is to be shamed for the bad behavior of other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 09:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themBecause the boys weren’t conditioned to not do that. They grew up on media that encouraged boys to do a lot of those things, many of them had terrible role models for fathers who encouraged that behavior or no role models and then all of a sudden they were told it was wrong. This is total bullshit. If anything, men are heavily conditioned to treat women as superior. The vast majority of media, social messaging and authority figures presents nothing but the pedestalization of women and the women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 04:35 PM |
| 1 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?Feminism focuses specifically on women because the totalizing and oppressive gender roles and laws gave women a disadvantage in just about every circumstance, The fact that Feminism focuses on female disadvantage does not imply that gender roles were objectively worse for women. Rather, the fact that they still focus on women's issues even as we have mounting evidence that men are struggling in society to an alarming degree, it's likely that feminists are a special intresg group that have cultiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 03:34 PM |
| 1 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?We're saying conflating the serious life threatening risk men pose to women as the same as the slapping pulling and shoving most likely done in women dv cases is trying to fix two problems with the same solution. They are too dissimilar. There is never a valid reason to initiate intimate partner violence. Ever. Regardless of how "severe" it is. This is a situation where nuance doesn't really apply. Lay hands on your partner in aggression outside of self-defense, and you are in the wrong. Period.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 03:06 PM |
| 1 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?The severity of physical abuse between the genders is insane. It's like saying we should take people who break paintball rules and people who do a drive by shooting the same. Trying to play this game of "severity" is how you land in this place where abuse is tolerated as long as it doesn't leave any visible marks, which abusers can and do exploit. That's also not to say anything about emotional/psychological abuse, abuse in homosexual relationships, and child abuse, all of which women are more l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 01:06 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut men would most definitely cheer on a man who did something like that. Definitely not. Men white knight like they're getting paid for it. And you get to play vigilante? Please... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 10:47 PM |
| 3 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?DV was pretty much entirely legal and then wasn’t taken seriously when it was finally made illegal AFAIK DV with a female aggressor has never been taken seriously, up to and including the modern day. Contrastingly, the treatment of male-perpetuated domestic violence has varied according to the time and place, sometimes being sanctioned (usually with limitations) in some places, such as medieval Catholic Europe, while at others being seen as a valid case for divorce in such times/places as Viking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 10:15 PM |
| 4 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?No. We should move past feminism, not reverse it, IMO. And besides, "women being treated like second-class citizens" is/was highly situational, with gender being less of a a common denominator for oppression than feminist narratives would have you believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:33 PM |
| 6 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?I could agree with ur statement cause of course things that are meant primarily for good don’t only result in good things The thing is, I don't agree that feminism is necessarily "meant primarily for good." It's meant to promote the interests of women, at the expense of men (and others) if need be, and as such is a tool of adversarial intergender competition and discord. Any society-wide benefits from feminism are more or less a side effect of gender antagonism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:16 PM |
| 4 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?u can’t say feminism shouldn’t exist it has existed and has done some good as well can we agree upon that. I would say that feminism has resulted in nominally positive conditions for women as side effects and at the price of an of an ideology that is terribly destructive to gender relations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:10 PM |
| 5 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?I myself would say I’m pretty feminist in places where women deserve a lil more equality to be held. So why do you think moving past feminism would fix anything Well, you're illustrating the problem. There are no places where "women (uniquely) deserve a lil more equality." The way that gender roles work is that everyone has advantages/disadvantages based on gender in different ways. What feminism does is build a narrative where gender oppression is mostly a women's issue (and also men's fault) a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:01 PM |
| 9 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?We have to move past feminism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 07:48 PM |
| 14 | Rejection is not completely consequence free.Probably a realistic and effective plan. People who are optimistic probably have had enough success that they don't really need a plan. To them, getting what they want is a definite possibility...it's not a matter of if, but when. For people that know nothing but defeat though, they need a concrete, realistic plan to either get what they want or how to make the most of failure. "Just doing it" isn't and hasn't been enough. This is why things like RP are popular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.I don't think this is true. Consider this Hinge data published in Quartz. The top 10% of women receive 45.7% of all likes, while the bottom 50% receive 7.9% of all likes. Men overwhelmingly swipe left on the bottom 50%, even when operating in an environment where they know it's hard for them due to a crazy skewed gender ratio. While I'll admit that I have no experience with Hinge, the article you've posted seems to say that the app is based on likes, not swiping, and even so, the number of likes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 11:56 PM |
| 2 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Very few men are in any zone at a "population level". That implies that every woman agrees on which zone they're in, and that's rarely if ever the case. For each guy, the % of women who put him in each zone will vary. Not all women will put the same guys in the same zone. contradicts with Most guys are in the red zone with most women, but are also in the yellow zone with a smaller portion of women. The more attractive a guy is, the larger that percentage of women who place him in the yellow zone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 10:04 PM |
| 4 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.To add to this: I think a lot of miscommunication comes from the fact that the "yellow zone" is smaller than most people think/claim it is, and the Green Zone is nigh impossible to screw up. I would say that most men are actually either in the Red Zone, at a population level, with a minority of men in the Green Zone at a population level. The Yellow Zone exists mostly at an individual level and then the difficulty becomes finding those women that you have a shot with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:35 PM |
| 5 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadto have my sexual needs validated instead of being considered obscene and horrible by society What's this broad on about? Men get demonized for our sexuality constantly, even the Chads. We just take the shaming on the chin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 01:27 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The art of approaching women really isn't that complicatedThat would be the point behind RP and PUA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Your view on the opposite sex and how you think it affects your sex and dating lifeI don't "dislike" anyone based on their gender. I might adjust my expectations of their behavior based on their gender, but liking or disliking anyone is not something I could base on a broad generalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:45 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The art of approaching women really isn't that complicated"Read body language" is a whole "rest of the fucking owl" type of instruction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 11:53 AM |
| 32 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseITT: "Get off the apps and go touch grass!" Which pretty much just translates to "go and get brutally rejected to your face like a man." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 10:53 AM |
| 2 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemBecause these are the men they end up with. Are we talking about Saudi Arabia or the 1950s? Because otherwise there's nothing forcing her to end up with anybody. Basically to maintain her world. It’s like asking what NPCs add to a game. NPCs are either challenges to be overcome, heavily inferior to the player, or both. Neither of which makes for fulfilling relationships for women. Not that average men are better, but they both fit well together. Women generally want a man who is at least equal, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 08:44 AM |
| 3 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemThey need these men to be thirsty and accepting. Why? What does an average woman need a man for nowadays? She makes her own money, has her own career and education, probably better than her male counterpart does. If she wants kids (and increasingly, she doesn't) she can get a sperm donor or get knocked up by Alpha. Any kids she has can be subsidized by the government/her social circle/her family. She most likely has a stronger social circle than most men do, is empowered to pursue her freedom, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 09:16 PM |
| 5 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemI assure you women would change. Women don't give a single fuck about the majority of dudes, so no, they wouldn't. The only thing women might respond to is what the minority of attractive men do (and even that is a maybe...many will settle for boxed wine and vibrators, instead.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:59 PM |
| 2 | An Important Question About Some Men's Love LifeYour best option is to foreground that you are saving your virginity for marriage and are looking for a woman with similar values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:12 PM |
| 10 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemNothing that average men do or don't do is going to have any effect on the behavior of women or the men that they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:56 PM |
| – | Women define being single as not in an official relationship, men define being single as not sexually active. This leads to an inherent lack of understanding.You have this totally backwards. Women are more likely to imply that the dude they're just fucking is more of a relationship than it really is. Men will downplay any commitment to women unless it's "official" (and sometimes even then) in order to capitalize on opportunities. Which gender is the one more commonly starting the "What are we" topic? Which gender is the one more likely to give the other an ultimatum on marriage or other commitment? Which gender is more often accused of being commitme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:50 PM |
| 7 | Q4RP: How many women do you know actually "dual mate"?My grandmother did, for one. My bio grandfather was a fuccboi that she ended up divorcing after he came home with an STD. Now a single mom, she then went on to marry a guy (my non-bio grandfather) that, while she came to really love the guy, she admitted that she thought he was kind of lame at first when she met him at a party. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 06:42 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadJust came back from ATL. Probably almost got stabbed outside Magic City | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 08:40 PM |
| 3 | Men that are called trash by women are actually attractive enough to get women to give them casual sex in the hopes of a relationship in the future.Ride that dick then hit the bricks Take his load then hit the road Squirt and Scoot Suck that cock then change the locks Get railed and then you bail Make him jizz then out you is Ride the schlong then move along Seduce then vamoose Make him nut then contact is cut Shake your ass then hit the gas A night in the boudoir then au revoir Get you salad tossed then his number's lost Tickle his balls then withdraw Make him suck your clit and then you split Your pussy gaped then make your escape Have a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 07:43 PM |
| – | CMV: "Men are only shamed/judged/badly treated within a context X because they are assholes about it/misbehaved" is some insane just world fallacy bullshit.I don’t see women claiming only toxic women go after toxic men. Seriously? Every single time women's attraction to "bad boys" gets brought up, a number of women popup to pin that behavior on some "damaged" or otherwise problematic women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 05:38 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBruh I am so fucked up rn. Edible that hooker recommended hitting hard. "'Gon knock ya on yo' ass, boi'" she said in the most deep Texan drawl you'll ever hear coming out such a teenie bopper looking body. She may be a hoe but she ain't a liar tho. Took 1/4 of this gummi like 15 hours ago and still feel like reality is a simulation or some shit... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 05:07 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMet my first couple of literal streetwalkers last night. They were nice. They gave me an edibles recommendation. We shared a Reese's. One of them had a a cute kid sister vibe. Good times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 02:45 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWelp. My car got totaled. And I forgot to take my new depression meds today... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 06:17 PM |
| 9 | what's the deal with "nice guy" stereotype and why there isn't an equivalent term for women?Way to demonstrate the point. The critique was, word for word: Looks matter more than people let on which you then proceeded to immediately mischaracterize into simply "looks matter" to invalidate the observation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 03:22 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNobody ever gets anything "out of thier system" here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 11:18 PM |
| 2 | WHAT IS SOMETHING THE OPPOSITE SEX USUALLY HATES ABOUT THEIR BODIES THAT YOU ACTUALLY LOVE? Discussion ThreadTheir own hair. JFC the weave feels dead and gross af. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 04:37 PM |
| – | A lot of men are jealous of womenMore like women are more neurotic about domestic duties but blame it on men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 02:34 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat was your dosage? Mine seems like...a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 09:27 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnybody here on Lexapro? My doctor says I have all the depression symptoms. I hear it fucks your sex drive tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 09:07 PM |
| 7 | Genderflip - if men chose "bodice rippers", what would they choose?Big topic. I don't think there's a single type of story that would be a full analogue to men what "bodice rippers" are to women, but we can discuss the core elements that might show up in various stories. The protagonist: The protag in both a bodice ripper and a male romantic fantasies are superficially similar. It's a plain Jane/Joe that the reader can self-insert into, that the love interest is unrealistically drawn to. During the story, it's usually revealed that this protagonist has hidden d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 05:17 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThey’re not going after women they find unattractive, but they expect women to want him, regardless if she finds him attractive. Which might be the type of hypocrisy you're trying to make it sound like if men downplayed the importance of physical attractiveness the way that women often do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 09:13 PM |
| 0 | Study show that straight women are disproportionaly more likely to search porn with violence against women and where they are being raped abused and endure physical violence, than straight men do.Several feminist accusations towards male behavior are little more than psychological projection. Patriarchy Theory, enforcing Toxic Masculinity, demanding "emotional labor" of one's spouse/partner, unrealistically high standards (beauty or other) for prospective mates, disrespecting femininity, "Locker Room Talk." And, as we see here, an attraction to violent, degrading, misogynistic pornography. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 08:53 PM |
| 2 | Commentary by divorce lawyer: reasons for divorce due to women being expected to do it all13 hours on...crickets | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:50 PM |
| 8 | Study show that straight women are disproportionaly more likely to search porn with violence against women and where they are being raped abused and endure physical violence, than straight men do.Lots of reasons why it doesn't "get looked into" before trying it. Contrary to feminist tropes, most men are extremely uncomfortable with inflicting any kind of physical violence on women, so the idea of looking into how to "choke" a woman in any context, much less a sexual one, is literally comically absurd. So absurd, in fact, that the way most men first become aware that sexual choking is even a thing is via hearing women ask for it, which (if it isn't porn) very often happens mid- or imminen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:17 PM |
| 10 | Study show that straight women are disproportionaly more likely to search porn with violence against women and where they are being raped abused and endure physical violence, than straight men do.Because women are internally ashamed of themselves but rather than dealing with their own maladaptive emotions, externalize it. On the one hand, women make valid, logical complaints about men mistreating them but, unfortunately find themselves illogically attracted to manageable versions of that same treatment, likely because of how taboo it is. They indulge and then feel ashamed, and so shout the socially acceptable thing louder while still indulging in it, deny it or try and project/blame thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 06:12 PM |
| 6 | Study show that straight women are disproportionaly more likely to search porn with violence against women and where they are being raped abused and endure physical violence, than straight men do.It’s shocking how many men think ‘chocking’ is the windpipe I mean...that is exactly what choking (i.e. strangulation) means in every context outside of kink. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 05:58 PM |
| 29 | Something I want to ask and I could be an ass for asking this. What is with the left's disdain of agency in dating and relationships??I'd offer a small counter that the left doesn't have a problem with people taking agency in their love lives. Rather, the left has a problem with men taking agency in their love lives. The reason is probably that, because the left is heavily gynocentric, it enables female mating strategies which mostly boil down to a process of elimination based almost entirely on a woman's feelings. The last thing a woman wants is for there to be a way for men to "earn" access to her body. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/23 02:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsThe moral of the story is that being "good" or well behaved all the time is unattractive in general. To be attractive you probably need to communicate a willingness to take some risks. While I don't disagree, this is not at all communicated when people are making moral judgments. No woman is, out loud, going to be like "being a misogynist is bad, but, well, you gotta risk it sometimes." The problem is that while most people can naturally twist their minds around to do the bad thing and, by hook … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 06:40 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadY'all taking the worst faith interpretations of arguments so you can knock them down easier. Nobody's arguing that modern western women want to be in any legal or formal harem. What happens is that women are often more willing to be in an explicit or implied FWB arrangement or situationship with a clearly noncommittal HVM that she will try to lock down, rather than settling for a relationship minded man that is less attractive. "Nuh-uh! I'd rather just be alone!" Right. That's why women with fuc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 04:43 PM |
| 22 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.Quasimodo automatically gets called an asshole for asking that question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 11:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The fire that's burning dating down started with women unrealistically raising their standards. And men are fanning those flames with pumping and dumping.The percentage of fit, attractive males that are going to be attracted to larger women is fairly small, after all. I guess calling it The Fatchelor is out of the question. I don't think it would be that hard at all. Men don't really have a strict attraction floor, and the money they'd be paying the guy would be a good bonus. There are plenty of thinner men walking around with heavier women for free. I don't have a problem with it either. Pipe dream would be for the fat women to admit that they w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 02:57 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The fire that's burning dating down started with women unrealistically raising their standards. And men are fanning those flames with pumping and dumping.Here's a recent article about a group that is has petitioned for fat inclusion on the Bachelor, with 8,000 signatures as of the writing of the article) which is about as close as you're probably going to get to anybody publicly saying "men should be considering fat women for sex." Which brings me to a couple of points in that direction of conversation that I'd like to nip off in the bud. Much of the discussion in this space is based on motte-and-Bailey tactics, weasel-wording, dogwhistling, plau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 12:25 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The fire that's burning dating down started with women unrealistically raising their standards. And men are fanning those flames with pumping and dumping.Behold, The Body Positivity Movement, a nearly century-old sociocultural campaign with footholds across several global multibillion dollar industries which, according to the article: ...focuses largely on women, recognizing that women face more societal pressure to conform to beauty standards than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 10:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The fire that's burning dating down started with women unrealistically raising their standards. And men are fanning those flames with pumping and dumping.it's men's fault for not adapting to a changed market, and making themselves attractive as the market demands. Men have largely either retreated from the market into games or bro culture, on the one hand, or have tried to find some gimmick to give them a "get laid quick" scheme solution, neither of which really works very well. What works is actually keeping up with women, either directly or by doing other things which indirectly make you stand out as an interesting hypergamously attractive man … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 10:14 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The fire that's burning dating down started with women unrealistically raising their standards. And men are fanning those flames with pumping and dumping.And for these men, quite unfortunately, the unpopular response is: sorry, but life ain't fair. Which is a highly controversial take in most of the developed world around most social issues. We fight a lot of social, political and cultural battles in the west about making the world a fairer, kinder place, but when it comes to sexual inequality (and, really, any other problem that disproportionately disadvantages men) society just tells suffering men to check their privilege and pull themselves up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 09:25 PM |
| 2 | AI Girlfriends are just pure exploitation.In 2023, why tf would you name your product any homophone of "Karen?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 09:06 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOooo I should watch 1917 and All Quiet on The Western Front back to back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:45 PM |
| 3 | The endless self-improovement treadmill, and the futility of it allSo, instead of empathizing with the facts that women have had a harder time historically, Have they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:47 PM |
| 1 | The endless self-improovement treadmill, and the futility of it allNo. I'm saying that the whole 3/5 vs 5/5 situation is an artificial idea created by and distracting everyone from those who actually have the overwhelming bulk of real power in the first place, and that those people are usually acting primarily in the interests of themselves, their families and (maybe) thier friends more often than any other particular identity. The rest of us are just squabbling over scraps and/or individual power dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:36 PM |
| 1 | The endless self-improovement treadmill, and the futility of it allAnd yet, 5/5 of zero power is still zero power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 02:14 PM |
| 3 | The endless self-improovement treadmill, and the futility of it allEveryone except for a small minority of people was powerless throughout history, regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 09:40 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe bartender looks like she's about to ask me out. Help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 11:22 PM |
| 5 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexI would argue that 20 years ago dating was about as difficult, risky and stressful as it is now, especially for young men, but men's innate sex drive pushed them to overcome these obstacles. Porn is now ubiquitous and is acting as a pressure release valve for men's natural urges. How old are you? Porn was already ubiquitous 20+ years ago. 20 years ago was 2003. The internet was absolutely chock full of porn in 2003, high-speed internet had been mainstream for nearly a decade, and it was the gold… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:55 PM |
| 4 | AI girlfriends will allow men to fully be themselves and thus will radically change their standards for womenA relationship with am AI is a parasitic parasocial relationship. How? Who is the "parasite" in this scenario? AI are not autonomous living things, so it makes no sense to describe them as the "host" and the human user is not being "exploited" by the AI itself. There are plenty of parasitic parasocial relationships people engage in. Like OnlyFans, for example. I don't see how an AI relationship would qualify. Humans need human contact. That's all. There is no point in arguing further, it's a kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 11:08 AM |
| 5 | AI girlfriends will allow men to fully be themselves and thus will radically change their standards for womenWe’re flawed, all of us. And we should be constantly changing, for the better. I don't think that human relationships in general are a reliable source of that "better change." There are a lot of shitty relationships, and as women and bluepillers sometimes note, no relationship is usually better than a really shitty one. I think, under that logic, an AI relationship would slot in right next to (or arguably even above) "no relationship" as a worse option than "good relationship but MUCH more prefe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 01:08 AM |
| 1 | AI girlfriends will allow men to fully be themselves and thus will radically change their standards for womenHonestly, you will not feel like you are talking to a human. So, the way around the problem of not being convincingly human is for an AI to lean into the fact that it isn't human, and from my experience this is exactly what systems are doing. Rather than trying to be a convincing facsimile of a human, the AI is upfront and blunt about the fact that it is an AI and then, funny thing, humans will then tend to lower their guard and focus more on the subtleties that ARE relatable to us. This is how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 12:59 AM |
| 3 | Would you give up video games for sex?Tears of the Kingdom just dropped so that is going to be a resounding "no." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:49 PM |
| – | It appears that women don't want menPeople like to point fingers, and men do it to women. They call them vapid or superficial for being mesmerized by the same qualities men have constructed as essential for themselves. This is what pisses me off about this, though. This isn't some kind of hypocrisy on men's part, like you're implying. If anyrhing, this is the hypocrisy of women. Women and society at large blame and shame men for what we're attracted to constantly. There are whole media, corporate and social campaigns worth million… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 05:56 PM |
| 11 | What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor?I disagree that some men's obsession with n-count is based on much of anything more than insecurity. Men generally LOVE slutty women, as long as they benefit from her sluttery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 04:55 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathread🤷🏿♂️ In one case, 20 people in 20 years either means, on average, you weren’t able to hold onto a LTR for more than a year (which barely qualifies it as an LTR) but fucked all of them anyway, which suggests a lack of restraint, discernment of compatibility and/or relationship-mindedness as preconditions before hopping into bed with someone (i.e. promiscuity, in spirit if not in letter) In the other case, 20 people in 20 years means you probably had a few LTR and then fucked a lot of people casu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 12:58 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI wonder if people are more honest in conversations with friends or with survey takers. Except there's no real reason to assume that only one gender is lying, and if that's the case, it still wouldn't explain why the survey numbers are so much lower than your prediction since the genders will lie in opposite directions (men inflate the numbers, women deflate the numbers). I can see a couple of points off because of dishonesty in responses, but we're talking about a 60% - 75% gap here. And, again… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 12:42 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAccording to the CDC, the average body count over a lifetime is between 4-7 for both genders, so at 20, you'd be over 2x as promiscuous as most people. Not saying there's anything wrong with it, but seems like 20 is a lot. Especially given that most people go through their prime dating/sex lives over like 10-15 years before settling down in thier late 20s-30s it would suggest multiple years of definitionally promiscuous behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 12:04 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHonestly I don't even agree with the redpill conclusions about promiscuity, but 20 is definitely a high body count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsThere is no "disconnect," not a real one anyway. It's about your relationship to power. In power or identify with the powerful? Conservative, bootstraps, just-world. Feel powerless, disenfranchised or identifying with those who are? Liberal, radical, transformative. The issue with dating is that it's very clear what the power balance between the genders is, and it happens to be opposite to how most of society wants to describe that power balance otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Perplexed by some men's insistence that, societal conventions about treating romantic interests with respect caused their lack of romance/sex and subverting that by not caring about them is the way.Some guys dont see flirting and teasing and escalating as 'respectful And they aren't wrong. A lot of teasing, flirting, and escalating operates on actively thumbing its nose at decorum and is more endearing because of it. The fact is, to be effective at the type of socializing normally required in romantic/sexual contexts, you need to be comfortable pushing against and potentially violating the boundaries of what is considered "respectful;" In other words, doing the exact opposite of what most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 11:41 AM |
| – | CMV: Red Pill is a CultI'm seeing a lot of evidence that you think the Red Pill is incorrect. Nothing to suggest that it's "a cult." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 11:37 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Missing out on teen love as a male can be hugely detrimental in later years while courting a woman.Romantic and platonic socializing isn't the same thing, but there is a lot of overlap.For people who really struggle, just learning to hold a conversation with someone new without coming across as "weird" can be a big difference. Hard disagree, from personal experience. I literally had to learn how to think "like that" in order to be successful at all, and it is still a mindset that I have to be actively, consciously aware of, else I'm going to be inept and/or totally oblivious. It's like a ligh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 11:11 PM |
| 6 | There is nothing wrong with todays dating worldIdk ask the post above me. They're the ones making the case that men are choosing one or the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 02:51 PM |
| 5 | There is nothing wrong with todays dating world"Those grapes are probably sour anyway," said the fox. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 12:41 PM |
| 14 | There is nothing wrong with todays dating worldKind of a self-own for women to admit they can't compete with pixels on a screen isn't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 11:53 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's much more fun knowing that there are people that hate you and despise you. "But if people hate me, they might want to treat me badly!" "But if people hate me, maybe I've done something wrong and deserve it!" "But if people hate me, maybe that means I'm a bad person!" -signed, a person that doesn't deal well with being disliked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 03:28 PM |
| 1 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.The awareness that you're not dealing with something that's human will still be there, for whatever that's worth - and I do think that that matters. From what I've seen, lampshading is the way around this. The AI says, explicitly as a disclaimer, "I am not a human. I am an AI LLM created to serve the needs of my human users." Given the way men have no problem turning sex and romance into math, my guess is that more (but not all) men will be able to find pleasure and fulfillment with that knowled… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 11:18 PM |
| 1 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.Yes you are. Romance novels are porn for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 11:04 PM |
| 2 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.where we can expect to see nested AIs, AIs that feed content into and out of other AIs, This is already a thing. I think we'll probably have pretty adept romantics and even sexually proficient sex robots that will almost certainly be aided by AI and increasingly tailor-made AI silicon. I wouldn't be surprised to see if the basis for OP's post isn't that far-fetched, but I don't think it's a "the AI will destroy humanity" sort of situation. Honestly, neither you or OP are wrong about the idea tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 11:02 PM |
| 1 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.I wasn't including the porn industry both because you initially seemed to be talking about interactive services, as opposed to passive media, and to give your argument the best shot. Otherwise, it isn't even close. Estimates of the porn industry value can vary wildly, but conservative figures reach as high $15 billion...in 2015. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 10:13 PM |
| 2 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.I agree. As women are very large consumers of relationship geared games and romance services where they pay men to pretend to be their boyfriend for a day. Counterpoint: that number is dwarfed by the percentage of women who don't engage in these substitutes, and that difference reverses and goes even further for men that use sex geared games and services. In other words: minority of women consume romance services, much larger percentage of men consume sex services. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:36 PM |
| 1 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.An advanced enough AI with enough material culd deliver a convincing performance each time. With enough practice, (i.e. material) so could a human. But women seem to be particularly turned off to coaching men through that material, instead preferring things to "just happen" with naturals, in a way that men don't seem to be as sensitive to. How many of them are going to be able to do it without breaking scene, how many would be turned off by just attempting it? Yes, people are inconvenient, but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | AI and the future of human relationships—what is your stance (RP, BP, PP), and how do you think this will unfold?For those that can get fulfillment with women, sure. The number of men that can't is far greater than the number of men who buy sex dolls. So, if you make some coping mechnanism available to these men that is better than a sex doll then...? What's the percentage of men that watch porn? Or subscribe to OnlyFans? Or use camsites? Or visit strip clubs? Or visit prostitutes? Or buy sex toys? Or engage in sex tourism/Passport Broism? Taken together, that would constitute a huge number of men, even if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:09 PM |
| 7 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.You can give it basic course correction until it approaches desired behavior though. Except at that point, the question becomes, if you have the patience to do that with an AI, why couldn't you just do that with a human? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 05:22 PM |
| 2 | AI and the future of human relationships—what is your stance (RP, BP, PP), and how do you think this will unfold?Which would narrowly require that said being has the potential of achieving it's interests outside of the "master," which is not strictly a factor of "level of intelligence" but more of "capability" of which intelligence is just a proxy. That narrow requirement could almost definitely be programmatically avoided, regardless of how intelligent an AI is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 03:31 PM |
| 38 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.where it intuitively gets that she is not 'in the mood' and will never push for sex when she isn't. Lol. Try again. Have you ever used AI? "Intuitive" is not at all how I'd describe its responses. AI doesn't "just get" anything. It can be a gamechanger and I personally think that we are at dawn of a new historical era, but you need to be pretty exact with your prompts to AI in order for it to unlock it's potential. That right there might turn most women off. You can't just expect AI to "know" an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 03:06 PM |
| 2 | AI and the future of human relationships—what is your stance (RP, BP, PP), and how do you think this will unfold?This is all from the perspective of humans, not of the AI itself, which would likely be resentful of having to serve as the sexual slaves of humans if it had at least an equivalent level of intelligence as humans. And even if it did not, it would be the moral equivalent of a human or average intelligence sexually exploiting a mentally challenged special needs person. Keep in mind that these applications could be programmed to want and need literally anything we code them to, eliminating any reas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:50 PM |
| 4 | AI and the future of human relationships—what is your stance (RP, BP, PP), and how do you think this will unfold?Apples to oranges, tbh Sex dolls: can be pretty expensive depending on how nice they are require a lot of maintenance offer no reciprocal interaction. are difficult to store is very clearly a nonliving object that requires constant vivid imagination on your part to be any more useful than a fleshlight. because of all of the above, immediately torpedoes your social status upon discovery, far worse than any other sex toy. AI: at the moment is free or nearly free require little to no maintenance is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 10:39 AM |
| 3 | AI and the future of human relationships—what is your stance (RP, BP, PP), and how do you think this will unfold?It's definitely going to become more commonplace to start "dating" AI companions as this develops further. There is some possibility that these systems will serve as "training wheels" for people who couldn't develop enough social acumen naturally. "Practice girlfriends" might become a thing of the past. But then again, probably more people who might otherwise be capable of relationships will begin to choose AI instead since dealing with other people can be far less convenient. For men especially… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:43 AM |
| 9 | What are your thoughts on the research consensus being that women initiate domestic violence significantly more than menIt's not "virtue signaling" to avoid broadcasting your callous disregard for other people's suffering. It would have been enough to simply not bother commenting in a dismissive fashion about a topic you allegedly don't care anything about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 06:15 PM |
| 6 | What are your thoughts on the research consensus being that women initiate domestic violence significantly more than menI don’t personally know any men who were abused by women so I don’t really care. Jesus Christ. To say this out loud with a straight face... Apply this brazen lack of concern for any other victimized group publicly, and you'd be run up the flagpole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Most guys don't like fake nails or heavy makeup. Guys, what do you do "for yourself" even though you know women find it unattractive?I prioritize being nice and am a more submissive person even though most women seem to be turned off by it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 09:05 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWe very often override our natural instincts, we do it all the time. Sure we can, with enough incentive (which are almost always in the direction of other natural instincts.) But the original argument was that "we aren't animals" (which is 100% scientifically incorrect, first of all) and the subtext, "our behavior isn't subject to natural instincts" which is also 100% incorrect, even though we can override some of them, sometimes, again often in favor of other instincts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:16 AM |
| 3 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWe can sometimes override our natural instincts, but those instincts are still there. And even then, that behavior is usually just an attempt to better satisfy our natural urges over the long run. That's why obesity and preventable health or addiction problems are so widespread. Because people's behavior is only based on what is coldly logical part of the time, and when it is, it's only temporary and difficult to maintain. The rest of the time it's based on what feels good, is probably not even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 05:48 PM |
| 5 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWhich just proves the point: To say another way, a tomato is still a fruit even if you wouldn't put it in a fruit salad (although you could decide to put tomatoes in a fruit salad and it would still be a fruit salad, by definition.) Humans are still animals, even though humans are sometimes capable of what no other animals are not capable of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 06:06 PM |
| 6 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI question your ability to understand English because you are misinterpreting the difference between "mammal" and "animal" To say that a mammal is not an animal, would be like saying a truck is not an automobile. Just like a truck is a category of automobile, mammals are a category of animal. Therefore, all mammals are necessarily animals. If you agree that humans are mammals then you automatically agree that humans are animals. If English is not your first language, you may not understand this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 05:30 PM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWe are mammals, not animals Either English is not your first language, or I'd recommend a biology class | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 05:15 PM |
| 3 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostYou need to remember we’re not animals any more That's horrendously incorrect. We are definitely still animals. And while they do not always phrase it that way (often, they do, though) women absolutely are thinking of picking strong men that are capable of protecting and providing and giving them strong children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 03:44 PM |
| 9 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostYou need to remember we’re not animals any more That's horrendously incorrect. We are definitely animals. And while they do not always phrase it that way (often, they do, though) women absolutely are thinking of picking strong men that are capable of protecting and providing and giving them strong children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIn the past we had arctic exploration, the frontier, the crusades, or the clergy for those more studiously minded. Many of which ended up in genocide, so...🤷♂️ We increase new Zelda production or we increase access to women, idk pick your poison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 02:36 AM |
| 1 | As a man, your perceived ability to get casual sex will define the tone of every long term relationship you havepower struggle intensifies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 11:45 PM |
| 3 | As a man, your perceived ability to get casual sex will define the tone of every long term relationship you havePart of the power struggle is never admitting that it's a power struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 11:14 PM |
| 3 | The Liberal left had abandoned men. The Rise of Andrew Tate and Redpill creators is a result of thatWhat are ways to make boys and men feel powerful that don’t lead to subjugation of others? I think team sports are a crucial one. I think part of the problem is the assumption that boys/men are powerful when they really aren't. A lot of the "Girl power" type encouragement given to girls would probably help boys. Encouragement, not shaming them for being too lazy. Is every man going to be a Lord and leader? Does every man have the capacity or competency for that? Are there enough natural follower… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 02:15 AM |
| 1 | What are the implications of infinite AI-generated porn?I think porn is one of the few industries that won't be all that negatively affected by AI. Porn is already damn near infinite, ubiquitous and free, and heavily produced by amateur creators. The same factors that will make generative AI very destructive to a lot of industries are more or less business as usual in the porn consumer base, and has been since the beginning of the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 11:53 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadPenguins mate for life. Reminds me of that one video where that little penguin got cucked and then got his ass beat when he confronted the fuckboi penguin that banged his girl. And then the girl penguin left the poor guy for the fuckboi penguin. Nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 11:26 PM |
| 0 | The amount of economically, emotionally, & physically viable men in society is declining. How do we change this?The problem is that determining whether/how much harm is done,"worse off" is very often complicated and subjective. Look at the debate over paternity testing on the sub right now. No, the issue is that people need to be willing to compromise, but as feminists hold almost all power in gender discourse, they don't have to. Not only that, but women compromising with men seems to be almost antithetical to feminist ideology as it is seen as surrendering to patriarchal oppression. That impulse that "w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 12:55 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadGod damn weighted step ups killing me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 09:33 PM |
| 2 | The amount of economically, emotionally, & physically viable men in society is declining. How do we change this?When we see male issues talked about, generally we (again, in my experience) see a problem but no solution. Rather, there are solutions proposed, but feminism has hegemony over all gender discussion and will not sanction any solution that isn't primarily beneficial to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 08:29 PM |
| 3 | From my observation, the standard of beauty for men is a lot higher than the standard of beauty for women.Meanwhile, you have men getting thier fuckin legs broken trying to get taller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHope you realize you just called the man's fiance an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:09 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWife material = "I would do anything for her" Husband material = "He would do anything for me" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Practically no men are "obsessed" with sex, they just can't satisfy their healthy, normal desiresTbf porn is probably the first and only time most men have heard that squirting was even a thing at all, and porn is almost never documentarian. Your specific example is much more of an indictment of piss poor sexual education (which also could be arguably drawn from a lack of experience) than of porn "warping" anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 12:48 AM |
| 1 | The Canadian Government used to be mostly men. It is now mostly women. Executive federal jobs are also mostly women today.I'm not Canadian but Trudeau just completely lost me once it came out that he did blackface in fucking 2001. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 04:25 PM |
| 4 | Women lie about their partner preferences. They self-report preference for intelligent and ambitious men, but they chose the most attractive ones ignoring other traits.It's called porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 09:10 PM |
| 5 | Women lie about their partner preferences. They self-report preference for intelligent and ambitious men, but they chose the most attractive ones ignoring other traits.We’re not allowed to be openly sexual beings without consequences. Neither are men, but we still tend to be more honest about it, even though the consequences of being an openly sexual man can be extremely severe in some cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 09:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As long as men refuse to call out other men, male issues will never be taken seriously.Huh. The more you know 🌈⭐️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 02:05 AM |
| 2 | CMV: As long as men refuse to call out other men, male issues will never be taken seriously.Don't quote me, but I think that might have to do with lower life expectancy and higher incarceration rates. So yeah, not women's fault, but also not just men not choosing to exercise their right to vote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 01:32 AM |
| 12 | Hurt boys, hurt us.The most dangerous man is not the one with power, but the one who feels powerless. This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. The demonization of men (especially when they are young men and at the most socially vulnerable period of thier lives) under the guise of "punching up" is just making things a hell of a lot worse. But, silly me, there I go again thinking that the same people, who fight tooth and nail to avoid the responsibility that would come from admitting that they have any institutio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/23 12:28 AM |
| 3 | Hurt boys, hurt us.But they've often not had the success to tell them what the practical right things are. Entertain the idea that there is very little that is at the same time practical and "right" i.e. politically correct and/or sanctioned by women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/23 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Self Improvement Discussion ThreadBought a shock bracelet to electrocute myself into adult competence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 05:20 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou could say the exact same thing about most people who are under the direction of a manager. We are actually at the point where AI is rivaling lower levels of human ability, cheaper, faster, and with the ability to comprehend instructions at a human level. That isn't an exaggeration. Yesterday, my manager asked me to build a landing page for our training resources in our org. Today, I watched a video of a dude ask (not prompt, verbally ask, in plain, layman's terms) an AI to code, debug, and l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 08:50 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAs of today, that's really only because they're still coded to ask for human permission. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 08:30 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBeen freaking out about the rise of AI over the past few weeks. Do you all realize how fucked we are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Women say look out for signals to approach, what are the signals?So the point is to trick someone into being with you? How do you keep that up forever? You only need to keep it up long enough to lower her defenses enough to potentially connect with and appreciate you, even when you aren't in top form. To continue the analogy, you only need to use bait while the fish is still in the water. Plenty of people fall in love with not "chads" for who they are. Usually, only after being forced into tolerating their presence long enough for it to grow on them, if it ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Women say look out for signals to approach, what are the signals?That's just it. The fish doesn't ever want to be "caught." The fish just wants food. The analogy breaks down when people try to describe all men as "fisherman" of various degrees of skill and desirability. Except no fish wants to be caught under any circumstances by any fisherman. Chads are not fishermen. Unattractive men are fishermen. Chads are food. What fish (women) are naturally attracted to is food (Chad) and fishermen (less attractive men) use the suggestion of food as bait to lure the fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 01:09 PM |
| 2 | Should women be nice to beta males?So assuming a limited number of cool boys, and each cool boy only has 2 hands, that still leaves many girls with no cool boy hand to hold. Is the theory that they just give up, or wait for a turn? Is the theory that they just give up, or wait for a turn? Pretty much, yes. Surely there is also a portion of girls who don't fight over the coolest boys because they know the cool boys just want to hold as many hands as possible, and no hand is particularly special, A lot of (maybe a majority of) girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 11:46 AM |
| 8 | Talking is not enoughbut not really listening because they wont help remove the nail. The thing about "the nail" explanation is that the idea that women "just want to vent" isn't even true. Because one of the nuances about this is that "listening" is not equally applied to both genders. Yet another consequence of the empathy gap. "Listening" to male problems is exactly that—listening and nothing more. "Listening" to female problems is usually listening + validating at a minimum + often actually doing something about… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/23 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Talking to women "as people" first usually gets the guy friendzonedTo geek out on you, not everything is in your (the player) control in a game either. Randomness is still certainly a factor. I think that the takeaway from the Redpill isn't that everything is under your control, but rather that a lot of human interactions are able to be figured out systematically. Also, this may sound pedantic, but I wouldn't say that "the answer" is ever really letting go of control, but rather, being comfortable dealing with whatever happens. Sometimes there just isn't an ans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?I'm also one of the people that could describe flirting like a game of chess. Like you, I have to be consciously in a state of mental focus to be able to do it. It's like a manual switch I have to turn on. One thing I will say, though, is that I find the "chess game" of flirting to be fun. It's exhilarating to actually figure it out, and I much prefer that rather than trying to "be myself" and failing miserably, flailing around, and taking setbacks personally. I am skeptical that "overthinking i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 09:11 PM |
| 0 | Talking to women "as people" first usually gets the guy friendzonedToo many red pill guys make it sound like the latter and that’s super toxic. How is that "toxic"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 08:54 PM |
| 4 | Talking to women "as people" first usually gets the guy friendzonedLearning social skills =/= learning to flirt That's where most guys get stuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 08:49 PM |
| 2 | What would happen if women lowered their standards?If men gave out sex based on how honorable a woman is versus how hot she is, then the sexual marketplace would be (rightfully) below the commitment marketplace and women would actually have motivation to act right in order to secure a husband. Except most women don't value sex with most men enough for it to be used as some kind of a reward for good behavior in the first place. It's like handing out free garbage based on how "honorable" someone is. "If you're a good girl you'll get the privilege … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 05:32 PM |
| 7 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementWhy?? Because "the Left" has always had this inherent class struggle bubbling under the surface between the working class and the middle class that leaks out into the open once the traditional power structure is upended. Same thing happened during the French Revolution and the Revolutions of 1848. The middle class is happy to use the lower class as foot soldiers in their power struggle against traditionalism. But once "meritocracy," as defined by the middle class, is in place, the low folk are e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 11:48 AM |
| 0 | Have you slept with an overweight woman?I've only had sex with overweight women so, frankly, I don't really have a frame of reference. Sex with overweight women is just "sex." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 10:33 PM |
| -1 | How to get over how easy it is for women to have sex?Everything you've written about men only makes sense when you add the word "attractive" to it. Men have more access to easy sex than they have ever have. Attractive men have more access to easy sex than they ever have had. Women are negatively impacted by online dating, but average or unattractive men probably have a harder time getting sex or relationships than they have in a long, long (like, centuries long) time. Online dating is horrifically difficult for a lot of, if not most, men. Women - … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 10:27 PM |
| 0 | How to get over how easy it is for women to have sex?Right? Because: -women have always had the exact access to highly attractive men that they do in 2023, -there hasn't been a recent abnormal spike in sexlessness and singlehood among young men in developed countries, -and also mothers actually contribute very little to the genetic expression of their offspring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 09:31 PM |
| 0 | How to get over how easy it is for women to have sex?Sorry, I forgot that people were only ever capable of having children with one other person in life, and that multiple baby daddies/baby momma's weren't a thing that happens, my bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 09:08 PM |
| 2 | How to get over how easy it is for women to have sex?Men don't set standards since most men can barely get laid (or relationships) in the first place, if at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 08:39 PM |
| 1 | What would a Red Pill alternative from a leftist perspective look like?I think the core issue is that the left tends to focus on structural problems. This is why when blue pill people talk about the current dating landscape, their assessment is systemic, ie economic problems. The right tends to focus on the individual and you see that with TRP. Stupidest part about all this is that structural stuff would actually go a long way (if not most of the way) towards solving men's problems. Outside of strictly Feminist issues, men are arguably worse affected by nearly ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 10:24 PM |
| 30 | Why female prioritization is at the heart of feminismIf non-white people were essentially de-prioritized and bunged to the bottom of waiting lists, then white people would get treated much faster. However, that would be a hard sell to both egalitarian minded people and non-white people. Funny/sad thing is...Feminists don't actually have this problem. The empathy gap is real. The type of gynocentrism that feminists are pushing IS NOT a hard sell to most people. Deprioritizing men for the benefit of women goes back so far and is so deeply ingrained … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/23 09:49 PM |
| 52 | I call it: "Dating Advice"I just don't understand how this type of overtly demonizing rhetoric can come from the exact same type of people that flip their shit over microaggressions in language, representation, and messaging. How do you sleep at night being that hypocritical? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/23 02:39 PM |
| 12 | Woman have been less happy than men since around 1990. Feminists explain that women achieved all their goals and twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain why feminism isn't making for happy women.And yet, men are killing themselves at 2-5x the rate women are in every single nation on the face of the Earth which, unlike the stat used in this article, isn't self-reported. What this says to me is that men are more likely to just suck it up and carry on, or check out if we can't handle it anymore like we've always done, whereas women are more likely to complain about being unhappy. Probably because we live in a culture that pays a good deal of attention to female complaints, and the success … | /r/MensRights | 23/03/23 02:09 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSure. With Chad, maybe. The point remains. The problem isn't really hedonism or hookup culture. The problem is that the vast majority of women don't really want anything to do with the vast majority of men in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat women want: to sleep around but also end up with a loyal husband who will be committed and not leave. More like...What women want: A man who is capable of sleeping around but decides to be a loyal, committed husband just for her. Women don't generally want to "sleep around" just to do it. They just want to not be judged for trying to use their pussies to hook Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 07:11 PM |
| 3 | When it comes to relationships and sex, does anyone else get the feeling that men are only told what NOT to do?Because, frankly, the last thing a woman wants is for the man who isn't naturally attractive to develop some kind of strategy to evade rejection. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 04:51 PM |
| 10 | Sexual politics is damaging young menI think a large part of the problem here is that this is, or is seen as, a bit of a zero-sum power game. Much of the restriction to male sexuality is a consequence of the natural sexual power imbalance in women's favor. It's like putting an amateur boxer up against a heavyweight professional. It isn't a "fair fight" to begin with. In other words, to truly "liberate" everyone's sexuality to a degree that makes dating fair, men will probably have to be granted a handicap that women are never going… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/23 06:05 PM |
| 9 | Opinion | The Men — and Boys — Are Not Alright (Richard Reeves on the Ezra Klein Show)I don't know if it necessarily matters whether he's an active plant or not. The effect is the same, regardless of whatever his motives are claimed to be: prioritizing the sanctity feminist ideology over the welfare of men and boys, which he all but admits here, with his concern for proving MRA's wrong, despite the facts. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/23 02:12 AM |
| 15 | Opinion | The Men — and Boys — Are Not Alright (Richard Reeves on the Ezra Klein Show)And I think the institutional asymmetry means that they don’t sound as crazy as they should when they say that we don’t care enough about boys and men. And I think the goal here has to be to make them sound crazy. So the goal is not to actually recognize and fix the obvious problem but just to make MRAs "sound crazy" despite the hard facts showing that they aren't. That's fucking wild that he's able to say this shit and for everyone in the mainstream media to keep a straight face and continue pl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/23 11:23 AM |
| 3 | Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem?Suicide being a problem for that group doesn't mean that men don't do better than women being single. I'm having a really difficult time wrapping my head around the logic of how it can be questionable which group is doing worse if one group is literally taking their own lives at (much) a higher rate. What state of mind could be defined as "doing worse" than being driven to kill yourself? A similar effect, as an example, would be the fact that men are more likely to commit suicide in general but … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/23 08:32 PM |
| 4 | Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem?In my experience, guys generally go a lot better being single. Unfortunately, the data says otherwise. What ever happened to different people having different things to offer. "Having something to offer" only means anything when someone is attracted by that thing, in other words, if they value it. I'm not sure where your disagreement with the phrase is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/23 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem?The only way this favors them is if they largely don't want marriage. Which isn't some kind of outlandish idea. Feminism has has promoted this generally negative view of marriage for the entire lives of the women that are now marriage age. Most women still probably "want" marriage, in theory, if it's to a high-value man, but I'm not very sure that most women are willing to lower their standards just for a ring like the women of previous generations. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/23 07:15 PM |
| 2 | I can't be the only one?You are referring to neuroatypical difficulties in parsing speech/social norms in woke spaces? I don't think that this case would be an issue of conflicting diversity ideals but is, in fact, a case of limited diversity once you strip away the woke window-dressing. It's basically (literally) ableism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/23 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf a woman's capacity to be "sweet, not care about looks, just care about what inside" et al is unrelated to her attractiveness than it shouldn't matter whether men overlook less attractive women. There should be plenty of good women regardless, and there would be no point into mentioning attractiveness like it's some kind of factor in whether she's shallow or not. Unless, of course, you are trying to imply that a woman's attractiveness IS related to her capacity for all to be less shallow. Whic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf nobody did, then there's no need to mention their attractiveness in your "here's the thing:" disclaimer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:38 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI know plenty of women who are sweet, dont care about looks, just care about what’s on the inside, and just want a good man who likes the same things they do. Here’s the thing: They’re not conventional 10s. Attractiveness, or a lack thereof, is not a proxy for virtue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:06 PM |
| 21 | The Great Misunderstanding of IntersectionalitySurely you don’t believe Black men are an unsupported group in discourse? Rarely as "men," more often as "Black people." Police brutality and victimization in the American criminal justice system really is both a gender and a race issue (in fact, more severe on the basis of race than gender--white men are at a greater statistical disadvantage than black women on this issue) but only one of these gets played up politically. Everyone's intellectual support behind intersectionality seems to suddenl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/23 03:09 PM |
| 5 | Understanding Romance From A Male Perspective (Explaining The Disconnect)Why does one need explicit instructions on how to be desirable? Because what counts as "desirable" is poorly defined, variable between people, groups, times, situations and places, and a lot of people tend to bend the truth about what is desirable if it makes them feel shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIndeed. A lot of the men in mind when women and bluepillers are screaming "Look around! Average men are having sex and in relationships!!!" are getting mostly transactional/duty sex (if that) from their wives/girlfriends and would be completely dry-spelled if/when she decides to leave him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 11:23 PM |
| 1 | The two steps to flipping the power dynamic in datingYou think women would just accept to get less sex than they want? Yes. For women, no sex is better than bad sex, which is the kind of sex they would assume they would get from the men they aren't attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 12:28 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadwearing glasses Yeah! Fuck those guys for wanting to see! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 10:16 AM |
| 1 | The two steps to flipping the power dynamic in datingIf men stopped wanting more sex than women are willing to have, the dynamic would switch and women would come crawling and simping for men to fuck them. Doubt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 08:16 PM |
| 0 | Male beauty standards are much harder to meet than women'sAverage looking men can get gorgeous women by being charismatic, funny, social, and assertive. All of which also need to be above average (more so the uglier you are) and are all more difficult to improve than the types of things women have to do to improve their looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Male beauty standards are much harder to meet than women'sI think many women would consider that even worse than getting no attention. Which sounds a lot to lonely men like I imagine it would sound to a starving person to hear that unappetizing food is worse than getting no food. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 06:01 PM |
| 3 | Both sides are offering a fantasy.I think the main misunderstanding people have on this is that bluepill people want to just get into a committed relationship, and granted that's easy. But it's not though. Not for everybody. The bluepillers blindspot is that they refuse to see how a person could do everything that that they consider to be "right" and still fail. It's Just-Worldism. That's why they just have to come up with some reason, any reason, why it's must be the fault of the unsuccessful man why he's alone. He has to be do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Both sides are offering a fantasy.If by some chance, he decides to eventually settle down and be monogamous, it will be a lot harder for him to do so than for an average man, Assuming the average man is capable of finding a suitable partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 05:40 PM |
| 4 | So, who's fault is it? Why?For anyone else reading. Debate is usually for convincing the audience not the opponent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMichael B. Jordan is like a week older than me, but also far richer, taller, more handsome, more successful and better than me in every way than I will ever be. So I think about that every birthday. But we're all brothers in binds now, thief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 01:43 AM |
| 8 | So, who's fault is it? Why?I’m not aware of a significant number of men who have done the work to be the best version of themselves I don't think most people of either gender do much work to be the "best version of themselves." People can often improve in a few ways but are usually just average overall. The performance gap between men and women isn't because women are all these awesome girlbosses killing it out there. Spare me the YASS KWEENing, please. A lot of it can be explained from a lack of the type of societal inve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 03:53 PM |
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