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She took over MJ's body without consent, lied about her identity to Peter to get his consent, and then kissed him. Pretty straightforward case there. Why aren't the press or the fans more upset? Because it's hard to take serious the morality of super-powered actions. And even so, Peter and MJ do discuss the morality of this specifically. This indignation that the movie is just glossing over it is factually incorrect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 12:49 PM
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There it is...There's your real issue. You're using the movie as a lightning rod for your frustrations about gender in media. It's a conversation worth having, but this particular movie isn't the culprit you're making it out to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 11:48 AM
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Call it a bad strategy if you want, but that doesn't make it "a free pass" or Spider-Man letting Jean go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 05:05 AM
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He didn't break her out of prison. He rescued her from the custody of the Department of Damage Control because he found out that the department head lied to him and was planning on experimenting on Jean, potentially to death, just like he did to her sister. There was like a whole scene with MJ, Ned and Yelena where Peter discovers this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 12:47 AM
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Bnd perfectly exposes how modern movies excuse or soften toxic behaviour when the villain is a woman. Instead of portraying a female villain as simply an unapologetically terrible person, the story gives her extensive victim framing, emphasizes her trauma, and encourages the audience to sympathize with her even when she has seriously harmed innocent people. This is exactly how Jean Grey has always been portrayed lorewise in the comics, cartoons and other movies, along with the majority of X-Men …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/26 02:06 PM
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Huh? He didn't "let her go." He was unconscious in the hospital for days after being shot with a sniper rifle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/26 01:59 PM
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Feminists don't get the luxury of saying, "Don't judge us by our loudest extremists." Huh? Feminists do this constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:53 AM
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Notice how any conversation about helping men, always turns out be about how men can be better for women. The conversations usually have nothing to do with helping men. At the very least, the Red Pill outlook seems to be the one that gets actual, tangible results in the dating market for men that have few to no options otherwise. It's why the Left will struggle to really appeal to this demographic of young men. The Red Pill is toxic and regressive because dating has become (and perhaps always wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/26 05:48 PM
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The "all men and women are created equal" phrase is a direct modification from the famous passage in the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence, and is similarly conflicting with the actual reality of its authorship: The Declaration's claim of equality being penned by men who were also literal slaveholders. The Sentiment's claim of equality being penned by women, who very much did not actually believe men and women should be literally equal (least of all between races) and who would go on t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 04:20 PM
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Everyone is allowed their preferences men are just shamed for being callous about where and when they express their preferences and how they express them No, there are entire public facing campaigns that shame men and place the blame for unrealistic female beauty standards squarely on the shoulders of straight men. Leonardo di Caprio and others get dragged in the media routinely just for appearing in photos visibly dating younger women. And that's without any men having to express anything about…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:38 PM
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Whereas men always have the green light to only go for women they find attractive No, men get shamed for not wanting fat or older women or single mothers all the time, we just don't care. Besides that men's standards tend to be genuinely lower, so we rarely run into the whole "(s)he looks good on paper, but..." issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:09 AM
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The irony is, contrary to popular belief, it's not so much that MRAs recruit men as much as toxic feminism pushes men into men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 01:06 PM
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It makes sense if you realize what feminism really is: women's revolt against having to compromise with average and below average men. Look at their boogeyman, Patriarchy. All men are usually implicated as beneficiaries and propogators of Patriarchy, but what the word actually refers to is a specific type of man: a Patriarch. The rare, socially dominant, authoritative alpha male. As it turns out, women tend to be attracted natural patriarchs and Patriarchal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 02:33 AM
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Convicted killers have fangirls sending them love letters in prison. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:54 AM
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right wing red pill stuff like going to the gym, making money and self improvement to be more attractive to women. Hilariously suggesting that left-leaning men don't also want to have money, be attractive, and self improve.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 05:29 AM
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The men’s rights movement actually addresses real male issues and advocates on behalf of men and boys — it doesn’t exploit or brainwash them! Part of the reason the red pill side of the Manosphere has the audience it does is exactly because they are addressing male issues that no one else really does in a satisfying way, including your preferred groups, it would seem. Like, do you hear yourself? "Those nasty manospherians aren't talking about the REAL issues!" What they are talking about is real…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 08:00 PM
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If you a truly for men, you must be willing to push back against feminism. If you visibly push back against feminism, you will be considered to be part of the misogynistic, toxic Manosphere, no matter the differences you'd try to argue between yourself and Andrew Tate. Trying to be "one of the good ones" doesn't work when there are no "good ones." So stop hand-wringing about the Red Pillers
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 07:08 PM
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First of all, let's reconsider the narrative that men in general ever made demands of women or acted towards women in the ways that feminists claim they did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/26 12:14 AM
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I don't know that actual egalitarianism was ever the real impetus as much as 1. indignation that racially/socioeconomically "inferior" men should have rights over their female betters and 2. A countercultural revolution against traditional gender roles that were ideologically described as uniquely harmful towards women. In either case, gender-based resentment is the fuel here, not a high-minded ideal. Disclaimer: I agree with the principle of gender equality. I am skeptical that feminism advocat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 04:43 PM
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And many radical feminists of the 70s and 80s absolutely hated her because she was taking away from the self agency of women over their own sexuality. But, tellingly, often not because she was a raging misandrist that fundamentally opposed the gender equality feminism claims to pursue except from the other side. One of the reasons I personally have come to believe feminism was rotten from the start...misandry was baked in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 03:48 PM
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One of the funny things about that sub (politics is another good one for this) is that it reveals just how okay certain leftists are with authoritarianism/fascism as long as it's "on the right side of history."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 03:36 PM
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I got banned for a slightly negative comment on a pizzacake opinion comic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 03:13 PM
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The sheer commitment to their misandry is incredible
/r/MensRights31/05/26 02:25 AM
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It boils down to a conscious or subconscious unwillingness to see feminism for the supremacist movement that a lot of evidence suggests it might be. For most people, feminism simply cannot be "the bad guy" so their minds will twist and turn away from that possibility, at best, seeing the movement as something that needs some "minor adjustments," maybe, but is otherwise a force for good. It's more like a religion than a position arrived at through reason. They won't be able to see the fundamental…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 04:21 PM
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Excellent breakdown across this thread. I also think that it's worth nothing that there probably is some self awareness that her selective instincts are are a problem, but both a stubborn hope that she can have her cake and eat it, and an indignation at other people (especially undesirable, low status men) calling her out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 12:13 PM
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Ironic post...attacks other men for attacking other men. This type of thinking is part of the problem... don't be in such a rush to blame men that you infantilize women. They are perfectly capable of imposing regressive social norms all on their own. In fact, it could be argued that social power was always their primary area of influence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 11:46 AM
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They use it as a gotcha but it really just reveals where their mindsets are wrt social justice. They couldn't give less of a fuck if anyone is suffering, as long as they don't feel responsible for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 01:29 AM
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Gender issues is the one of the best (and most disappointing) gateway drugs to realize that a lot of people left-of-center people are basically just palette swaps of the stereotypical right-wing nutjobs. The tactics are exactly the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 12:30 PM
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I just... don't understand the absolute hubris of it. Feminists expect men to just silently and enthusiastically take all the shit they talk about us, all the blame for what other men do. To endlessly grovel and scrape and bow and acknowledge how we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of women. And we did, FOR AT LEAST A CENTURY, if we're being generous, and by and large we still do. But it will be a cold day in Hell before a feminist says "Maybe we need to do better" and means it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 08:43 AM
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You: men and women should work together to be happy… but women are totally fucking stupid sheep without minds of their own and I hate them. This is your best comprehension of what I've said so far, but I'm the one who's ignoring content just to lecture? Okay. I’m criticizing the argument here that women should be doled out to provide happiness to angry men. I'm not sure anyone has been making that argument. I certainly haven't argued anything near that in our exchange. To recap, you claimed that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:28 AM
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You cannot actually have a society that considers both men and women when you use women as a tool to appease men. Realistically, both genders should be conduits for happy lives and families for each other. Except women seem to believe feminists who tell them that this is oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:50 PM
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You will be punished for the rest of your life by being forced to be obedient to, have unwanted sex with over and over with, bear the children of someone you do not want. Let's not be disingenuous. The goal obviously was to reward both men and women with a willing, competent and dutiful partner and a functional family. What you describe is an aberration, and was both seen as such and sought to be minimized (with varying degrees of success) in society throughout history. Society is not out to tor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:42 PM
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It's about making clear that we aren't the strawmen feminists talk of. My point is that: You're validating the loaded definition by trying to escape it The strawman extends beyond any particular label, so you'll never actually escape it anyway, unless you do the following. The only real way to combat it is to show that, no matter what label they want to apply, that you aren't actually the conservative, misogynist, violent strawman they are trying to imply that you are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 04:00 AM
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Let's not start playing dumb about labels and concepts we all clearly understand. It was cringe when far leftists and Democrats pretended not to know what "woke" means a few summers ago, and it would be cringe if we tried to feign ignorance about what the manosphere is. The Manosphere is a predominantly online subculture of content catering to men that engages with gender and social topics from a male-centric and feminist-critical or antifeminist perspective. <soapbox> If we're ever going to mak…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 02:28 AM
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Women will literally fall for men in prison, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:42 PM
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Which is crazy because drag is heavily supported on the left, even though there's a pretty obvious argument to be made that it's basically a gendered version of blackface. Woke leftists also cheer when visibly masculine men do things like paint their nails or wear female clothing and makeup. On the other hand, a staple attack towards anti-queer figures and politicians is that they are probably closeted. The consistency here is that they seem to be calling out hypocrisy, which is rich given that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 04:33 PM
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It's not that they don't understand what they're doing. It's that part of the loyalty/submission test for men on the left is to accept that kind of abuse without complaint and without pointing out the logical inconsistency with the wider leftwing thought. The ones that express any objection or discomfort are ostracized. See: Warren Farrell
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/26 01:49 AM
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To any who earnestly believe in the feminist conception of patriarchy and male-privilege, this makes men who fail or fall on hard times worthy of contempt, which almost certainly partly explains how utterly incapable feminist women are of genuine empathy for men. Rather, it's often a post-hoc justification for those that already hold men in contempt by default, especially men who they feel are beneath them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/26 12:32 AM
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When you want to argue that the rules are wrong but can't prove it yet
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:49 PM
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Wait so what's a debate flair for then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:42 PM
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it doesn't occur to them that these two are related Less "it doesn't occur to them" and more "they refuse to acknowledge it." It's very hard to get someone to understand something if their salary (or social standing, or worldview or life) depends upon not understanding it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:16 PM
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By their logic, the insecurity is dumb in the first place because it's based on something that isn't real (i.e. "nobody REALLY hates short people, but we'll attack your imaginary insecurities, anyway.") It's a tactic that simultaneously allows them to invalidate any male experiences that suggest men can be victims, and bully people while also maintaining plausible deniability of how hypocritical they actually are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:11 PM
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except for the obvious fact that the masks are there because ICE members are ugly No, this is still wrong. Their actions should be enough to criticize them. Mocking them for their immutable appearances in any way is the definition of body shaming. We should not (and should not want to) cheapen our stance with this kind of illogical schoolyard bullying tactic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:23 PM
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Progressive women can't both argue in favour of feminism and then mock men for being (in their eyes) insufficiently masculine. That's the neat part...they can and do, because they are neither held accountable nor suffer any real consequences for their hypocrisy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:18 PM
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I think there's actually two different discussions to be had here: Is the male loneliness epidemic about romantic relationships? I think it is, and I think it should be okay to acknowledge that. Rather than being dehumanizing, it reflects that men often desire some form of romantic connection in their lives just like almost every other person. No amount of platonic friendship is going to meaningfully replace the experience of loving and being loved and desired romantically. The feeling of "dehum…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 01:35 AM
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I think that part of the problem is that feminism operates more like ethnofascism rather than social justice, but is able to share space with Left Wing liberation movements because of people's tendency to prioritize women's concerns. Feminism is thought of as a kind of honorary minority advocate front in the same category as the other social justice movements instead of the female supremacist ideology that it actually is. Women, who aren't actually a marginalized minority group demographically, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 05:44 AM
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Separate from that, imo it's extremely hard for someone to be so unattractive that nobody will ever like them as long as they're putting effort into their hygiene and appearance That statement is probably true for women, but not so much for men, especially in the age of dating apps. Gender matters a lot in this case. Women swear up and down that society holds them to unrealistic beauty standards, but finding some man willing to at least have sex with a woman (any woman) no matter what she looks …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:54 PM
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They just don't recognise that women are reading/mentally consuming more porn where as men are visually comusing porn. Exactly. Women will read their smut openly in public, but it just looks like she's an avid reader to bystanders.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/25 08:18 PM
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And black people tend to know and understand more about racism than white folks do. As a black person, this isn't necessarily accurate or a good thing, as that understanding is often about excessively reifying something that matters less in material conditions than other factors, and also results in a tendency to wield that understanding as a one way bludgeon, using their perceived victim status as a shield. I'll give you that black people are more concerned and vocal about race, but I'd disagre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/25 11:52 AM
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Or, stay with me here, advise men to not waste their time money and energy in the clearly broken system, and either go elsewhere or just make the most of their single lives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 08:59 PM
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I like what you're saying but I'm going to push back on this a little: Liberal Feminism is ALSO Radical Feminism per your definition (which I agree with) i.e. Patriarchy Theory. The real difference between "Radfems" and other feminists is more accurately described by the manner and intensity of their misandry. The belief in the existence of a Patriarchy is the most fundamental identifier of a feminist, back to its origins. The solutions, theories, deconstructions and reactions to Patriarchy diff…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 04:16 PM
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So despite a power imbalance in favor of the men, domestic violence towards them still happens? See what I mean? Because physical power isn't the only type of power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/25 12:06 PM
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Men and women set it up and maintain it together. Patriarchy is a myth, and women's historical "oppression" was mostly just a set of tradeoffs that women made for the corresponding benefits of female privilege.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 03:29 PM
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But with their other online brain rot wars too. Think about the man v bear bullshit. Now if you instead said would you rather run into a black man or a bear, I think they’d take a step back. The sad thing is that the "step back" isn't about reevaluating their beliefs, but about doing the mental calculus of how much they can reveal about what they really think without social consequences. Put them in a situation where they feel like they can get away with it, and they can and will be horrifically…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/25 12:51 PM
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Called it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 07:16 PM
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What political angle would he have, latching onto a spicy topic to generate heterodox points / clicks for his pods? Yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 07:13 PM
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This forces women to either do better, or remain partner-less. The lower 70-80% of men have absolutely no leverage to force women to to do anything, collective abstinence or otherwise, and the upper 20%-30% of men see no reason to ally with the rest of us. The Lysistrata Gambit does not work on women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 07:07 PM
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It's referring more to a "friendship recession", where males have less male friends than the previous generations. I actually think this is a misdirection. Nobody wants the incels to be right about anything. So what happens when a growing number of "normal" men are expressing increasing loneliness, isolation and, in particular, frustration with a brutal dating market? Focus heavily on the fact that these men don't have friends at the same level that women do (which is true) to desperately draw a…
/r/MensRights13/11/25 10:07 PM
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Galloway is actually starting to annoy me more than Reeves, because a lot of his rhetoric skirts the tradcon ethos: men should be protectors and providers. Men need to "man up" blah blah blah. But then he avoids any criticism of women and/or deviation from the feminist ethos of "liberation for me, but not for thee." With actual tradcons, at least they push the gender roles on both men and women. What Galloway is preaching is one-sided traditionalism, and he knows it, but is too cowardly to take …
/r/MensRights13/11/25 06:27 PM
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It's all based on a massive genetic fallacy, that just because we used to oppress means that we should pay for our same-group ancestors' crimes. Which is doubly ridiculous when it comes to feminism because everyone has a mother/maternal figures. If oppression is carried through the generations, then I have just as much claim to that disenfranchisement as my sister inherits power (and blame for oppression) as the daughter of a privileged male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 08:46 PM
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I think that porn gets uniquely singled out for this because of the stigma and sex negativity around it, not the other way around. Plenty of industries, especially in entertainment, and in particular, industries heavily marketed towards women, are notorious for physical and psychological damage towards its practitioners/performers and worse. Entertainment, the film industry, the music industry, the beauty industry, and the fashion industry all have long, well-documented histories of coercion, ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:25 AM
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Anti-porn types make no moral distinction between live-action and animated, artistic, hentai or AI porn and, in fact, hold those up as further examples of how all porn is bad in the case of something that wouldn't be legal/possible In live-action, like lolicon. The real distinction is the gender of the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:40 PM
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Premise 1: It's okay to attack someone's immutable characteristics if you don't like them Close...In their mind "it's okay to attack someone's immutable characteristics if they are objectively wrong and evil." You have to understand that a lot of people don't have the integrity, self-awareness and critical thinking skills to challenge/back up their beliefs with any kind of logic. So the feeling of not liking someone, glides smoothly into concluding that they are evil, which then justifies the vi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 09:46 PM
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Accusing me of "concern trolling" is rich coming from someone who's handwringing about the less-than-nice reactions of internet personalities to the rampant misandry permeating mainstream culture. But yeah, take care =)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/25 02:21 AM
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If the goal is to move beyond radical ideologies, then we have to understand why they’re appealing in the first place and how they distort the conversation. Is that the goal? I don't know that most struggling young men would agree. You’re accusing others of finger-wagging and distraction, but you’ve shifted away from a well-developed critique that actually offers solutions in order to argue tone and intent. That doesn’t help transcend anything. It just keeps us stuck in the same loop. I'm not su…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 11:23 PM
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It still participates in and exploits that same system. The alternative is to just keep losing. What is off the table at this moment is replacing the system. It's arguable that, when and if it is replaced, it will be by those who were able to wield some power in the original system anyway. See: most revolutions in history. Not the ones that serve its dogma, just like feminists. For example? Except for the contradictions it does pretend do not exist, especially its own contradictions. For example…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 10:33 PM
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Nobody but the manosphere can be the source of its own constraints and contradictions. The manosphere is a reaction to a brutal and contradictory system, except that it points the contradictions out, and advises men on how to navigate them instead of pretending that they don't exist. It tells men that they are victims of maleness being pathologized, while pathologizing femaleness. With some accuracy, it points out how men are affected by the society's pathologizing of masculinity whilst also poi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 07:27 PM
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I’m interested in transcending the radical ideologies and making a path beyond their constraints and contradictions. I don't agree that the manosphere is at all the source of those constraints and contradictions, therefore finger-wagging in it's direction is a waste of concern or worse, a distraction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 04:47 PM
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The movement tells men they are victims while simultaneously telling them that examining their own behavior, developing emotional skills, or working toward positive change is weakness or capitulation. It offers the psychological comfort of victimhood without demanding any of the difficult personal growth that might actually improve their lives. Wait a minute. You've just spent approximately 3,000 words explaining, in great detail, that men and boys are, in fact, victims of an anti-male society, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 04:17 PM
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Hard disagree. A random crank on Twitter calling all men as trash is not why 60-75% of the homeless are men. The random crank on Twitter is echoing the anti-male attitudes of the general culture that allows homeless men to rot, while extending aid to would-be homeless women. Which is exactly why 60-75% of visible homeless are men. A feminist shaming men for having a bald spot is not why boys are falling behind in school. A feminist shaming a man for having bald spot, or any other physical featur…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 06:03 PM
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Recently I have been seeing a lot of red-pillers talk about double standards like men facing stigma for being virgins or bisexual. Keep in mind that these people don't have men best interest in heart. They are just using our arguments to push their agenda. What is "their agenda" though? Aside from the obvious grifting, the red pill and manosphere are clearly pro-male. The promotion of traditional masculinity is maybe objectionable on a philosophical basis, but it's not like men aren't held to th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/25 02:05 AM
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I feel like we give Reeves MORE criticism than Galloway tbh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 11:46 AM
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Yeah we should just believe in the massive coincidence theory instead! Is the bigger coincidence that the evidence aligns with the irony-laced ideals of this minuscule, fringe far right group that has been rarely heard of until right now, or that the evidence straight-forwardly aligns towards the ideals of the much larger, much more mainstream group? They asserted that the whole family, inclusive of him, was MAGA. They asserted that the family was conservative, that they were unsure of his polit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 12:19 AM
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Except the information I've shown you. Information which may or may not apply in this case, with no reason to believe it does. You are speculating that he did a magic secret flip to the other side of the spectrum. I am speculating that his own family is telling the truth His family has self-reported that they are conservative and have been much less clear on what his politics are. Other contacts have suggested that he may have been a leftist contrary to his family. Pointedly, none of this sugges…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 12:06 AM
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You pretended that I was insane and desperate for thinking these things. Quote me calling you insane and desperate. Your evidence is the same evidence as my evidence, but you have less of it since you're leaving out the parts that contradict you, and you're relying on coincidences and conjecture. I'm relying on the information that we actually have and calling a spade a spade. You are speculating past what we have, and extra information that may or may not actually apply to arrive at a prior con…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:55 PM
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Swap the race to Black and it could be a stand-in for any number of racist arguments about inner-city crime we've seen over the years
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:43 PM
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I have never once said that your theory is impossible. It just very unlikely. You're pretending it's a given that he didn't share his family's politics. It's not. You made that up. I'm saying that, given the evidence we have without further conjecture (to use your phrasing) that this is unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely. You're the one clinging to lesser evidence and building arguments off of things you made up. How is my evidence "lesser?" The evidence I'm referencing at an obvious face va…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:35 PM
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Which, given that this guy was turned in by his own dad, doesn't apply to the shooter. So out of the people that don't share the politics of their families how many of them are going to go further in the same direction as their folks? There's you, and then there's thousands of people cutting their MAGA parents out all over Reddit. Again, you very possibly could be correct, but what I'm saying is all common sense. You know it is. But the fact that you're clinging to the unlikely scenario makes ou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:24 PM
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Any direction except the one their parents like. How many leftists on Reddit come from a conservative background? And yet somehow this kid from a conservative background definitely radicalized to the right of his parents? Possible? Yes. Likely? No.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:17 PM
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A "calling card" that for the majority of it's history was, and still is, used by many, many more leftists by a person who came from a right wing family who also said he was becoming increasingly politicised, (like a lot of young people do...guess which direction they tend to do it in?)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:12 PM
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So the fact that Charlie Kirk had right wing opponents means that the shooter was definitely part of that group and not part of the (orders of magnitude) larger group of people that opposed Kirk from the Left?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:05 PM
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This discussion isn't even about Kirk, to be honest. It's about the shooter and the Left's handling of this situation and other public shootings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 10:59 PM
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The source you've posted gives a pretty detailed history of that song as a leftist/antifascist anthem with no mention of it's supposed right wing interpretation up until the second-to-last paragraph. Do you honestly think that helps to solidify your case that the shooter was definitely a groyper?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 10:58 PM
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That statement that you've just made is speculation and the fact that you are saying this with such conviction as if it is a settled fact is exactly the problem and is only going to push more people to the right. The fact, at the time of writing this, is that there isn't any solid evidence linking him to the groyper subculture, only selective reinterpretations of evidence that point to him being a terminally online antifascist. The bullet casings were engraved with antifascist messaging. His fam…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 10:48 PM
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ahh there it is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:13 PM
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How long until we find out the Charlie Kirk shooter is an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:09 PM
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Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:22 PM
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"Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do." B-but that's Red Pill talk!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:52 AM
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Semantics is quite a bit irrelevant here in that the discussion is around which pole of the nice/not nice spectrum women seem to be more attracted to. It's frankly a derailing tactic. The observation is that the kind/nice/good/polite/prosocial side loses out in a surprising amount of cases to the rude/bad/rebel/mean/asshole side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:26 AM
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From the "empathetic gender" that claims to be able to smell the misogyny on unattractive guys/incels, yet somehow they are repeatedly bamboozled by obvious assholes over and over. Lol. Lmao, even They are labeled as assholes because the relationship is over. This is also very true and probably a more realistic explanation for a lot of the bad boy/nice guy dynamic than anything the female apologists have going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:09 AM
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Being tall and attractive is nearly a requirement for any male lead in a film. The fact that they felt the need to cast, and then, ugly up a movie star in the first place to convey the message better is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:01 AM
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What do you want, video evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:57 AM
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Yes, and then when they bring up what they are seeing, people insist that they aren't seeing it. For example: "But I was told that I should be nice to get a girlfriend." "No you weren't."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:54 AM
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Parents, friends, girls, you name it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:50 AM
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There are a lot of guys who were told, verbatim, to just be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:48 AM
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Who do you know thats wants to be around a piece of shit as friends? Irrelevant. Most people don't want to have sex with their friends either. But women complain about their exes being assholes!” Was he always an asshole or TURNED OUT to be an asshole? There’s a difference. If she left the asshole, that shows she doesnt like assholes because that destroyed the relationship. Often, everyone except the girl in question could see that the dude was an asshole a mile away. "BUT I LOVE HIM!!" Often, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:45 AM
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Spot on. The gaslighting about it is the thing that gets me. Like "insecurity" is always seen with a flavor of irrationality, as if whatever a person is insecure about is always a figment of thier imaginations. Except that sometimes insecurity is a rational response to a real problem. People don't call it "insecurity" when black people are nervous about interacting with police, or when women take precautions on dates as those situations are seen as valid. But, as you also point out, there is als…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/25 02:35 PM
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It's very important in this moment to keep up the pressure. Newsom is gearing up for his presidential run. He seems to be hitting a stride with his online trolling campaign against Trump and now moves like this, very transparently meant to drum up a more male-friendly, blue version of MAGA, and I think Democrats are likely to fall in line with this strategy. And it's probably going to work since no one, left or right, is likely to replicate the anomaly of Trump's personality cult once he's out o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/25 08:48 PM
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It's definitely not because they are weak. Being able to gain the affection of a woman is the primary purpose imposed upon men by society at large. The failure to do that casts a shade over everything else a man might aspire to do in the eyes of society. Gay men are (let's be honest here) stripped of their masculinity and categorized as "other" even in progressive societies. Even then, gay men are still subject to female oversight as seen in the presumption that they can be kept as "pets" by wom…
/r/MensRights17/08/25 01:30 PM
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Chasing women 100%. Never base your self worth on the acceptance of other people
/r/MensRights17/08/25 01:04 PM
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Me. Never thought it would happen to me until it did
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 03:13 PM
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Because the important thing, to them, is to always claim victimhood. Victimhood is power these days
/r/MensRights14/08/25 11:31 AM
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I actually agree that Reeves wants to do the right thing. The problem is that his ideas of what "the right thing" entails are necessarily circumscribed to a feminist, gynocentric worldview. He is married to feminism (literally, he often mentions his extremely feminist wife.) I want to be clear. This is not a purity test, I'm not prescribing some specific ideology around men's advocacy, whereby anyone who falls outside of it is a heretic. What I am looking for, though, is people who can call a sp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/25 04:14 PM
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We have political power, we just don't usually act like it. Per the OP, the only reason anyone gives half of a damn now, the only reason Richard Reeves even has a platform in the first place, is because the left is bleeding male voters in the current political climate. It's not the existence or magnitude of male suffering that gets people to pay attention. Men have been falling behind for decades now. No, people pay attention when we are a threat, political or otherwise. It's when we blow up the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/25 03:40 PM
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"Working with" someone who is actively sabotaging you is insane and counterproductive. As you say, effectiveness trumps all. I don't accept the premise that everyone who claims shared goals with us actually means that where it really counts. Litmus test: if it comes down to it, (and it does, sometimes) are you choosing men's advocacy or feminism? Richard Reeves, r menslib, et al. are probably choosing feminism, in that case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/25 03:18 PM
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Once we have sympathetic attention given to men's issues, This may not be something that ever happens. What does happen is that people sit up and pay attention where there is some threat to themselves in play. Reeves is only able to successfully bring attention to these issues because men are becoming a problem for people in power in the first place. "Playing nice" and trying to cultivate sympathy doesn't work. Fear works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/25 02:32 PM
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It wasn't the suicide rates, it wasn't the homeless rates, and it certainly wasn't the blatant discrimination. Identity politics revolves around voting blocs, not facts or any material reality. Represent yourself and your fellow men when you vote. Exactly. And this is why we. especially as leftists, need to resist the temptation to try and come to terms with or work together with feminists a la Richard Reeves, menslib et al. The only thing that works for getting most people to consider men is wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/25 02:26 PM
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Going against the grain here -- yes, we should. ITT people are appealing to "not sinking to their level." But the problem is: we're already at their level. We live in a gynocentric society that has long assumed the best of women i.e. the "Women are Wonderful" effect even to some degree back in the dark days of Ye Olde Patriarchy. We already hold women as a group. It's just that we only try to do it when it reflects positively on them. Feminism becoming the default authority on gender has only su…
/r/MensRights01/08/25 03:57 PM
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I feel like men's rights being talked about has caused people t simply dig their heels into gynocentrism more firmly, as anything done for men's benefit is now seen as a threat to women. That's not to say that I think men should not be speaking up, just that I don't think it's really ever going to result in society making things better for men. Our only real option is to go our own way.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 04:29 PM
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This is something that I've long noticed about feminists - they are often the biggest misogynists of all. Deep down, they actually hate their own femininity and biological vulnerability and a lot of their rhetoric is either projecting their negative attitudes about their own gender onto society, sour-grapes style chauvinism, or thinly-veiled penis envy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 10:22 AM
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Yes but you need to let go of the revenge fantasy, though. Women couldn't care less if most men dropped dead tomorrow. Nobody is going to be starved for your attention. Nobody is going to lose their minds or obsess over you in your absence. Just live your life for you and find what makes you happy outside of women, not for some pipe dream about getting any kind of vengeance and/or validation for your dating frustrations.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 06:36 AM
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Outside of race, Black people can be very socially regressive and fundamentalist Christian. Like, sit through hours-long sermons at church dripping in transphobic and homophobic rhetoric, fundies. Black people are generally very gender traditionalist, as well. Black women will opportunistically latch onto pop feminism, but in pure hypocrisy, also very loudly and proudly expect men to hold to traditional gender roles. The prevalence of single-mother households in the Black community suggests that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 02:57 PM
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I'd be interested in how you find this a rejection of bioessentialism, given that you are beginning with a premise that men have a greater capacity for inflicting violence. This could also explain why male homosexuality has been frowned upon more than female homosexuality. Just as non-monogamous heterosexuality unites the proletariat between the sexes while eroding at the gender roles and familial hierarchies, male homosexuality allows men to love each other more than they love their bourgeoisie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/25 11:55 AM
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That's not enough. That's part of why the left loses. Men want to be masculine and they want to be appreciated for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/25 08:05 PM
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A big part of the issue is that there aren't really any such things as "toxic" or "positive" masculinities. Masculinity is like fire...there is no "positive" fire or "toxic" fire. Fire is just fire. Crucially, the use of fire for positive ends can not be isolated from it's potential to destroy. It's all part of the same package. And so the same with masculinity. You can't actually distill positive masculinity away from it's "toxic" potential and the attempt to do so just produces either neutrali…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/25 05:25 PM
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And then the worst part is that they will project the raunchy sex slave porn on us, as if we're the ones that like the sex slave porn
/r/MensRights18/07/25 03:11 AM
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It's a good example of feminist hypocrisy and how gender liberation has been a one way street. Traditionally, both genders were sexually suppressed, but while feminists have championed female sexuality as empowering, male sexuality is still seen as dangerous dirty perverted and predatory. by these same feminists.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 03:09 AM
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Because women/the left/feminists won't or can't do what's necessary to disprove that claim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 06:02 PM
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It’s an impossible loop that exists because the narrative always needs to end with: 👉 “Women have it worse.” Correction: the narrative always needs to end up with 👉 "Women have it worse. Men are worse." It just wouldn't do to forget that heavy dose of man-hating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/25 02:53 PM
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"Men's problems are definitely smaller than women's and we should dedicate more time to focusing on women's issues since they are the oppressed class. As a man, and a member of the oppressor class, I humbly apologize for my intrusion and for taking precious time away from your chat that was meant for the betterment of society. Now ladies please go back to your wonderful discussion on how white capitalist patriarchy is fucking everything up." Also, never forget, men's widdle pwoblems are our own …
/r/MensRights15/07/25 02:25 PM
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While I'm certainly not any type of Alpha Male, I do have my share of masculine coded affinities. In broad categories, mine are: -Tinkering (e.g. programming, models/dioramas, cosplay, hardware customization, videogame modding) -Training/Coaching (e.g. teaching, writing, public speaking) -Lorekeeping (e.g. History buff, fandom, general geekery) -Puzzling (e.g. programming, technical musical instruments) These are specific areas where I really step into my masculine, start to look a lot more like…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/25 05:40 PM
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Yes, but having a baby that you don't want forced upon you isn't a woman-specific problem. The only reason it can feel like that is because we're accustomed to a world where women have reproductive rights that men don't. Not to say it isn't a problem, but it is very far off from the insinuation that Trumpers specifically want to turn America into some kind of misogynistic hellhole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 04:30 AM
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Right, it's just misandry masquerading as political opinion. They didn't get their girl boss Madame President two times in a row now and so they pretend we're on the brink of living in Gilead and throw "men" under the bus for the actual problem of people literally getting rounded up in the streets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 11:32 PM
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The difference being that the attractive person is thought of as being kind, and the unattractive person is thought of as being a spineless, people pleasing pushover
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:00 PM
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I consider myself pretty average The fact that you felt the need to make this post illustrates that you are probably underestimating yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:57 PM
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I get that Trump and his ilk are a big problem for women right now, but it's not as if we're anywhere near close to the Handmaid's Tale becoming real. The thing is that they really aren't a big problem for women, in particular. Hell, many Trumpers are women. Trump and his ilk are a big problem for immigrants, gender and sexual minorities and the poor. But for women, at worst, they want to roll back abortion rights, which in and of itself is an extension of the traditionalist desire to enforce th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 04:59 PM
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So glad I had a daughter, tbh. Having a boy and knowing firsthand what he would have to endure in life would have been heartbreaking.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 01:22 PM
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Mamdani will eventually be forced to bend the knee
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 11:04 AM
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This is a legitimate war between the sexes. I've never even heard of anything like this. Correction: women are at war with men. Men are, by-and-large just trying to live, and either to make women happy, to not make women (more) angry, or to leave women alone. If men were truly at war with women, the world would look very different.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 11:52 PM
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Funny thing about this... Wasn't there a big collective whine women had several years ago about how men are too solution oriented and try to fix problems instead of just empathizing and validating while their wives/girlfriends wanted to vent about their bitchy coworkers or whatever? "IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NAIL!!!" In and of itself an admission that women unapologetically expect men to perform straight-up emotional labor. But oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth if we expect them to reciprocate in a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 09:14 PM
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When is internalized misandry going to start making headlines? Approximately around the heat-death of the universe, if we're lucky Plain old "misandry" barely (and that's being comically generous) even makes the COMMENT SECTION of media about gender issues, never mind the headline.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 09:00 PM
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Bezos is a blue-pilled beta nerd at his core who just so happens to be rich as fuck. Just like Musk and Gates. Case in point that the guy decided to get married again after a divorce settlement that exceeded the GDP of several minor nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:47 PM
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It’s too individualized. It’s too inclusive of niche positions/perspectives. It’s too void of group responsibility & accountability. It’s too void of personal responsibility & individual accountability. It’s far too “protected” (where people expect a safety net to rescue them regardless of their actions). I think you need to pick one, here. Is feminism too individualized or is it too void of personal responsibility and individual accountability? The problem with feminism is the same problem with…
/r/MensRights30/06/25 12:30 PM
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They know, deep down, what they're doing wrong. But to admit/acknowledge it is to risk the ire of another large voting bloc: Feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 08:25 PM
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The reason this bothers me is that I really do want to see the Democrats succeed and win elections again and even win back a lot of their voting base that they abandoned. The Democrats are never going to win back men until they break with modern feminism. And they will probably never do that so that's pretty much the end of it. Voting, by itself, is cooked as any kind of effective political action until third parties are viable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 08:19 PM
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Right, and the perspective you've just shared is one that I would closely align with and, from what I've seen over my long time in this sub, very reflective of the tone and tenor of this space. Which, given that we're all in agreement here, raises the question of what the criticism of this community in your OP was about in the first place. Because had your OP been along the lines of what you just posted, I'd would have had little disagreement and been confused about where you're seeing this elem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 04:49 PM
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So, social democrats and democratic socialists are tradcon right-wingers now? . I would argue that the left is defined by its response to capital (pro/con) as opposed to a class-based/class-exclusive analysis I don't think social Democrats or Democratic socialists would reject class-based thinking either, which is why they are leftist. How pro/con you are about capital defines your flavor of leftism, but the class analysis is baked in. Even in the case of DemSoc/SocDems, my understanding is that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 12:22 PM
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The difference between classical liberals and left-liberals is taking the economic power of capital seriously. Which seems to be a bit of an arbitrary place to draw the line between left and right, given that the entire paradigm was based around class struggle (i.e. the Estates system) in the first place. So, okay, we're all "leftists" if we're defining the "right" as Monarchism. Wholly rejecting class analysis seems to be a solidly right-wing take, at least in the U.S. I don't know where you're…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 02:18 AM
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My point is more so that feminists reduce men’s desire for connection and relationships to just a desire for sex. Of course I want sex in a relationship, but I also want a partner that I feel like will support me in the way that I need whatever that may be. I think that feminists flip-flop between these, when the truth is that both are necessary. On one hand, They will belittle male loneliness as an just a crude desire for the physical act of sex. But on the other hand, they will studiously avoi…
/r/MensRights23/06/25 06:39 PM
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Everyone oppresses and everyone is oppressed. It's not a useful lens through which to see the world. Which is a viewpoint that, along with your bootstrapping ethos, makes me question why you consider yourself a "lefty" in the first place. The whole left wing edifice back to the French Revolution is built on the the idea that some groups oppress others unfairly and unilaterally and that we should (re)organize society to resist this. I can agree that just shutting up and getting on with it is prac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 06:12 PM
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Nobody feels better as a victim, and nobody is attracted to someone who is a victim. Citation fucking needed. Victimhood is power in modern discourse. That's why men's activists have so much trouble gaining a foothold in the gender dialogue--because feminists know that to acknowledge that men are victims (and victims of women, in particular) is to cede some of their power and jeopardize the bedrock narrative of their entire ideology. And the bullshit of it is, men REALLY ARE VICTIMS as evidenced…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 04:16 PM
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I agree with most of what you've said, but I'm going to push back on your premise a little. The loneliness epidemic IS about sex (or, rather, intimate companionship in general) and that's okay. Part of the problem is that feminists are able to use men's sexual needs as a bludgeon and some kind of moral ammunition against male loneliness, which speaks volumes to the sick pathologizing of male sexuality in society. "Oh, they're just mad they can't get their dicks wet." Yes, Karen, adult people in …
/r/MensRights23/06/25 03:08 PM
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Women are people too. Source??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:29 AM
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The type of man that needs to turn to a sexbot is not the type of man any woman wants in the first place. Do not underestimate this!!! Rather, it is you who is underestimating just how unnecessary most men appear to be in most women's eyes. They would not bat an eyelid (and aren't, given the utter indifference to the rate of male suicide) if a sizeable number of us dropped dead tomorrow. Let go of the revenge fantasy. Live your life.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 05:27 AM
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Stop tolerating bad behavior and place self-respect over getting laid. This won't even out anything. Women don't give a fuck what average men will or won't "tolerate" as long as there are other, stronger men to make sure there aren't any consequences. The only thing this will accomplish is even more men going sexless than there are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:09 PM
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Women don't compare themselves to top models who are flown to exotic islands, cruising on yachts and given Birkin bags as 1st date gifts by billionaires and conclude if we aren't being given that experience the men aren't truly attracted to us Tell me you've never met a woman without telling me you've never met a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:04 PM
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The argument between left and right is whether the demonstations are ocnsidered "riots" in the first place. So no, gender is not a part of the discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 11:37 AM
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"Black people should stop with the violence and thug culture" "Muslims are too backwards and misogynistic" People who are part of those communities but don't behave in those ways should not be offended according to your logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 11:24 AM
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To quote somebody(the internet says it was Oscar Wilde, maybe,) "Everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power." What's really difficult about gender for the left is that it is an inflection point where nature and nurture intersect, and people are both human enough to reason ourselves out of our biological instincts/realities but also animal enough to not always want to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 01:29 PM
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I actually don't think it's a "new" audience. It's just that the W Bush/Obama Era leftist coalition had broken down, with some evolving into the new establishment Dems that are so inept as to lose badly to Donald Trump twice, and with others being "left behind."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 12:01 AM
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Most men are fed up with the intersectionality and identity politics that have fully captured the Democratic party. How this simple answer is not obvious is beyond me. It's not that the Libleft doesn't understand the truth. They won't admit it, but deep down, they know. If they are totally honest with themselves they know exactly how they've treated men and they know that this is just the obvious consequence. The problem is that a lot of the attractiveness of social justice culture/wokism is the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 08:46 PM
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This (and patriarchy theory, as a whole) is largely a projection on the part of women and feminists. They picture what society would look like if women were the dominant gender in formal positions of power (i.e. deliberately organized to benefit women at the expense of men) and then simply swap the genders. The problem is that men usually don't think in terms of gender solidarity. Women do. In fact, BOTH genders show a positive bias towards women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/25 03:42 PM
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The fact is that women in 2025 do have agency, power, and influence over societal structures. In fact, most of the women debating these issues on social media and elsewhere weren’t even alive during a time when women lacked agency to influence society or gender norms/expectations. The fact is that women have always had agency to influence society and gender norms. See: the 18th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. What women lacked was access to formal power structures (usually, not always) but o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/25 03:51 PM
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The right doesn't tell men they're strong. The right tells boys and men they NEED to be strong so they can slot into the rigid gender role of of being the breadwinner and inseminator. The unfortunate part is that they aren't incorrect about that though. Women, even feminist women, are by and large attracted to and reward the traditional male gender role. On a philosophical level I can agree that this shouldn't be the case and that we should strive to liberate men from their rigid gender role. Bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/25 03:32 PM
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You're making the mistake of assuming that feminists actually want the presidency. The problem with being president is that people are going to want to blame you for the state of the country. Donald Trump is a very convenient (and both willing and deserving, to boot) scapegoat for the frustrations of anyone who isn't MAGA. Think about what would have happened if Hillary or Kamala had been elected. The state of affairs in America might be a little better, but not by much. Then, feminists and woke…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/25 03:44 AM
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Generally, these complaints are about women choosing between men that are so far apart morally that there isn't any reasonable way to compare the two, regardless of any under/over stating and hypotheticals. Again, in one case, we're talking about behavior that is literally criminal, abusive, etc. Maybe you can take a very sympathetic perspective on it, but it still is objectively worse behavior than the other case. It's like "Call me a misogynistic asshole because of my comments on Reddit, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:06 PM
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My red flags = a little annoying or inconvenient His red flags = literal criminal behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:10 PM
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Man, I could have almost written this exact same post except swap the puppy for a newborn baby girl. I have no real advice as I've currently escaped the house and am trying to figure out what to do myself, but I'm rooting for you, from one abuse victim to another.
/r/MensRights24/04/25 12:55 AM
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I never seen an angry woman hating Chad in my life. You have never seen/heard women complaining about sexually successful men (fuccbois) that they are involved with? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:59 AM
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But you see, some guys here insist that good looking guys treat women like crap. "Liking" someone can have very little to do with how you actually treat them, i.e. you can "like" someone because they let you get away with treating them like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:55 AM
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But, you can't necessarily blame women for being deceptive and disingenuous with their preferences, as they face much higher risks of deviating away from the politically correct social norms as opposed to men. No they don't. Women regularly get sympathy for opinions and behavior that men get gleefully raked through the coals for if they are even suspected of having
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:07 PM
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Feminism at its core is about equality Highly debatable
/r/MensRights19/04/25 01:23 PM
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There is a good reason for that: emotional care in relationships is delegated to women. This is not true. Men are often expected to be the emotional rock of any intergender relationship, taught from childhood to mute or limit their own emotions while absorbing the emotional expressions of others, women in particular. The (pre-emptive) emotional care/labor that women do is mostly a projection of their own (and women's, in general) emotional instability and neuroticism onto other people. Your boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:15 PM
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Either she's crazy and insanely insecure, or I'm a literally evil and also shockingly stupid human being. Or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 03:53 PM
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OK, so I'm back because I'm out of that relationship. Bet you I'm never going to try that shit again...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 01:20 PM
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Well, looks like I'm going to be in a relaNoodles again, so it's time to delete reddit and deny any knowledge that PPD ever existed. Toodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:26 PM
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What women want are men who communicate that they are capable of being ruthless but (ideally) choose not to be. It's the sheepdog dynamic. But given the choice, women would rather take the risk of trying (and likely failing) to tame a ruthless man rather than settling for a harmless one. The most disgusting thing to a woman is a man who genuinely wouldn't hurt a fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:36 AM
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So it's not 30% of all men, it's 30% out of 5% of all men. As you describe it, it sounds more like 30% out of all men that were suspicious. Does the study say anything about the men who didn't have suspicions? That would be the meat of the issue: misplaced trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:17 PM
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Because being in (or close to) a relationship sounds better than being one of Chad's sidepieces that he calls for a drunken hookup at 1AM every few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:05 PM
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I am literally asking you to define good and nice since you don’t like anyone else’s definitions. You just like to call things conjecture. You are asking me to define nice so that we can get into a semantic argument where you will try to dissociate "nice" from being on the same moral side as "good" when, by all normal use of the word, they are closely related. I will humor you: "Nice" can connote: civil, polite, respectful, etc. but also: kind, compassionate, considerate, thoughtful, etc. Critic…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:57 PM
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Not necessarily. Real life observation and many responses to this OP indicate that there are at least types of "good" people think of when "good" is brought up. This conversation and real life observation is inherently unreliable due to the aforementioned clinging to a Just World theory. "Nice" and secretly "not nice" behavior is identical until and only when it is followed up by clearly "not nice" behavior. Before that point, people are mostly just making baseless conjectures to avoid confronti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:13 AM
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When I think of a “good person” I think of these character traits: kind compassionate considerate thoughtful You have the exact same definition of "good" guys that self proclaimed "nice guys" do i.e. the common-sense, damn near universally understood, obvious and colloquial definition. There is no "nuance." They straightforwardly mean exactly what it sounds like they mean when they say they are "nice" or "good." The only reason why we have to keep having this semantic navel-gazing discussion is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:52 PM
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I think it's a little of column A, a little of column B. Yes, women will all generally cluster around the same pool of top 20% Chads that all share a bunch of core traits like masculinity, social status, charisma, traditional good looks etc. The thing is that Chads are similar, but not identical. Each individual woman is waaaaaayyy pickier than to settle for the top 20% of men. That number includes the different flavors of Chad that various women may/may not be attracted to. This is one way you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:55 PM
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It's semantics, but I would think that connection sounds a lot closer to what you're calling intimacy since "connection" implies that it's bidirectional. Liking a streamer that has no idea you even exist wouldn't count as feeling "some form of connection."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:27 PM
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If we're defining intimacy as necesarily going both ways, then there's a lot on the spectrum of romantic/sexual interactions that aren't really intimate either, paying for it is just another one on the pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:04 PM
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I would say professional therapy proves that incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:56 PM
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The way they helicopter their tails when they poop to spread it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:55 PM
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Nope. Men don't just want sex, they want intimacy too. Lol you can pay for that, too. A lot of escorts will happily hold your hand and talk about life for the hour. It's kinda nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:24 PM
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Personally, when I get drunk, my inhibitions go away and I tend to just get really blunt and overtly thirsty if I'm attracted to someone without trying to tiptoe around it. Just straight like, "I just wanna say you're sexy as FUCK, let's hook up" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:43 AM
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my fear of coming across as pushy or making them uncomfortable is holding me back from operating with the level of confidence a guy needs to seal the deal. This is probably it. I would also say that there's a difference between being pushy and being honest about your feelings, which is easy to confuse. IME, being more honest (without being pushy), gets decent results.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:20 AM
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Hot. I'd tease her about being a perv though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:03 PM
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I'd probably feel a bit more intimate. Like how after you've been in a relationship for a while and you get comfortable enough to share the bathroom while one of you is pooping.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:47 PM
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am I missing anyone? Black and Pink piller
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:13 PM
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Humblebrag
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:16 PM
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Socializing and “masking” weren’t deemed these evil infringements on one’s right to fester away on that damn phone or video game. I think this ignores the other half of the issue, that it's much more attractive for groups to isolate themselves in echo chambers and also for ostracized people to be publicly pilloried at a wider, more permanent scale for social missteps. To the extent that people need to "put down their damn phones" and learn to socialize, there is also a need for people to be tole…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:40 PM
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Bro I'm at this giant dispensary that has it's own drive-thru. Making CVS look like amateurs lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:13 AM
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Physical features are the definition of superficial and can't be counted on to reliably give you any real insight into who someone is as a person. I'm not sure why you're asking me to demonstrate how un-superficial men are. I've already stated that men are very honest about how shallow they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:16 AM
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Shallow is choosing a mate who isn’t a good match just because of their looks or money. Which is exactly what women do pretty damn frequently (also to include personality traits which have little to nothing to do with how suitable a man is likely to be as a partner.) I mean, you've been proving my point as we keep having this circular back and forth. You came in acting like it's such this obvious thing that men should just know that women select for sexual attractiveness, and that men shouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:45 AM
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I still don’t understand why that is so distressing for men, who approach strangers based on nothing except her superficial appearance. The fact is not distressing to men. It's women who seem to have a problem owning up to how shallow they are. Men full-throatedly admit their own shallowness and get annoyed with women's denial of their similar behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:18 AM
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Any fake tan lip filler girls reading this, don't listen to her, she's just jealous. Let me validate u bby
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:45 PM
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Sexual attraction is based on superficial factors and, by your own admission, shouldn't be expected to be negotiable due to good behavior. It's shallow by definition for literally everybody. I don't know why women seem to be so resistant to being identified with basic human behavior when y'all are always talking about wanting to be "treated like people."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:37 PM
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And men misconstrue everything from fashion to growing breasts to bending over to pick up dropped keys as actions designed to distract and bamboozle men. Hard to misconstrue when women discuss literally offering or withholding sex according to men's behavior. Mmm hmm, and when women do exactly that, men call them “shallow”. Because they are. Is the expectation to be able to be shallow without anyone acknowledging it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:45 PM
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Have you read the thread you are participating in? You mean the thread claiming that women are not trophies when, in the real world, women use the prospect of sex to try and influence men's behavior in everything from voting habits, to chores, to romance as I pointed out in my first comment? I still haven’t figured out if men understand they are demanding that women date men they aren’t attracted to. Men are more demanding that women be honest about what kind of men they are attracted to rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:59 PM
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When men pursue sex without taking the steps to ensure she’s mutually interested, they indeed neuter themselves. It therefore behooves women to clearly communicate what they are interested in rather than repeating the narrative that their interest in sex is based upon something that men can earn with good behavior. Of course, the issue here is that women would have to give up a lot of the obvious leverage that they hold to get men to do what they want, and also would have to admit just how shall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:40 PM
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Earn something which is mutually enjoyable and mutually beneficial? That seems to be what women are implying when they cite male behavior as the reason for/lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:32 PM
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So how does this figure against the claims that incels can't get laid because women can smell misogyny on them a mile? Or discussions about "choreplay?" Or that dead bedrooms or cheating are the result of the man not putting in enough effort to romance her? Women make sex into a reward for good behavior by themselves all the time. The "WOMEN AREN'T VENDING MACHINES YOU PUT NICE TOKENS INTO FOR SEX" argument is only ever rolled out when women don't want to reciprocate or don't value the man tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:17 PM
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Feeling called out rn
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:11 AM
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Better get in quick, you already have a few female RPers to compete with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:30 PM
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Fitting too many people in a small car
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:24 PM
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People feel like frauds even when they do it the hard way. May as well take advantage of modern tech
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:31 PM
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That fraudulent feeling is going to evaportate once you get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:30 PM
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1.) What does Asshole Actually mean? "Asshole" means exactly what it means in common usage. From Wikitionary: asshole (plural assholes)(US) (vulgar, derogatory) A jerk; an inappropriately or objectionably mean, inconsiderate, contemptible, obnoxious, intrusive, stupid, and/or rude person. 2.) If being an asshole is all it takes, why do the men who complain about it the most not just... use this fail-safe cheat code to also succeed? They sometimes do. At other times, they'd rather not stoop to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:57 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/l5hpk1exeqjc1.jpeg?width=4636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d6b237988d054811e259778a33b13919dfda008
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:12 PM
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Yea Salma Hayek has been a dime for literally longer than I've been alive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:06 PM
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I mean, the nursery rhyme describes girls as "sugar, spice and everything nice..." Inb4 the goalpost shift of "OMG THAT'S A NURSERY RHYME I GUESS YOU THINK SANTA IS REAL TOO HUH SMH MY HEAD!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:04 PM
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It does not matter if she is selling OF or having private casual sex, she will be judged just as harshly by the ultra majority of guys. Again, this seems to be something you're projecting onto other men. The rest of the post is engaging with a prior acceptance/validation of feminist Patriarchy theory (possibly as atonement for your above feelings around female sexuality) which seems to have little to do with the original topic of discussion. I think I'll just leave the conversation here, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:07 AM
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Notice that I quoted her correctly, but you didn't. She did not say: People who need to say they are nice, aren't nice, That is YOUR addition and a clear attempt to make self-described Nice Guys out to be bad people. Rather, in her comment, she said that a man who can only describe himself as nice is unattractive and boring, and made no attempt to question whether or not his niceness is genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:42 AM
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Yes, and those preferences are formed because men like us in general think it is shameful for a woman to sleep around and that her value is less if she does so. Or maybe people think it's kind of trashy to be showing your naked body in public in a format where it's recorded for profit and can be accessed for all posterity on the internet. That's not slutshaming. There is a big difference between sleeping around in your private life and building a public-facing personal brand off of producing mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:59 AM
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The only reason there are long term repercussions to OF behaviour is because of the existence of slutshaming The reason there are consequences to OF behavior is because people are allowed to decide whether or not they want to associate with you depending on how you present yourself in public. That's not "shaming," that's just reality and respecting the boundaries of other people. You are focusing on the capitalism red herring but missing that you are actively confirming the other girl’s point Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:00 PM
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Its because you are mocking the idea of OnlyFans as not being empowerment. OnlyFans is largely about the capitalist exploitation of male loneliness. It's no more "empowering" than any other business, and is arguably less so as the "entrepreneurs" in this case are commodifying thier own bodies as a resource for short-term gain, with all the potential repercussions that may come with it. Calling out that OnlyFans is an off-base example of "female empowerment" isn't slut shaming. That's calling a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:16 PM
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The fact that slutshaming hasn't been 100% eradicated everywhere does not mean that we can't also focus on becoming more positive about male sexuality, especially given that the support for (female) sex workers is only one part of a general sexual liberation for women which, even if less than ideal, far outstrips any social positive attitudes around male sexuality (to include: the use/encouragement of female masturbation practices, sexual aides, sexual tourism, and the spectrums of female sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:35 PM
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You clearly have an unreasonably broad definition of slutshaming but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:19 PM
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I think if we were all more sex-positive and women weren't shamed and judged as much for being sluts, they would be more likely to be more open about their interest and maybe even initiate more, which could solve a bit of this problem. In a world where OnlyFans is unironically argued as being a form of female empowerment, I think we've got the "don't slutshame women" tack fairly well covered. Instead, how about we stop shaming male sexuality as dangerous, dirty, predatory, primitive and unwanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:56 PM
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There is nothing more unattractive to me than a guy who describes himself as a nice guy. I always appreciate this honesty. There is nothing...NOTHING...more unattractive than a man that can only describe himself as a nice guy. "Be nice" is literally the single worst piece of advice you can take to heart with regards to attracting women. You can and should do LITERALLY almost anything else instead of trying to be nice, and you'll be more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:44 PM
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Males are far more likely to externalize their issues and blame others. While females are more likely to internalize. Said with a straight face while feminism and patriarchy theory exist and are the culturally dominant narratives around gender in society. Might be something to do with how males are raised to expect everything to be equal. Said with a straight face when western women are increasingly moving towards the political pole that advocates for socialism and wealth redistribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:18 PM
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I heavily agree with this take. In a lot of the behavorial differences in genders may simply be different expressions of the same feature. For men, I think this is best relfected in the discourse around male emotional expression vulnerability, therapy, et al. A female-dominated spaces sees that men are behavorially dissimilar to women wrt emotion and conclude that men are emotionally stunted. But it's likely that men do engage in a rich emotional experiences, but that these may not resemble fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:13 PM
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Sure, but it's not a binary choice between abstinence and going ahead without any precautions whatsoever. Many people are concerned about out-of-wedlock pregnancy, but there is space for several different types of contraception and birth control methods between being committed to celibacy or having unproteced sex. Similarly, a man deciding to have children does not mean he has to accept the risk of being a victim of paternity fraud. Decades ago, that was the case. But today there is no reason no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:07 PM
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Sorry, all that came up was shades of gray
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:11 PM
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So because one of the risks can't be mitigated as well others, you'd suggest either deliberately forgoing whatever precations are availible for the other risks, or just abstaining entirely? How far back does that logic go? Sex isn't mandatory. Relationships aren't mandatory. Socializing with other people isn't mandatory. Do we present a binary of deliberately accepting ALL or NONE of the risks of each of those, even when we don't need to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:09 PM
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I'm not sure why, given enough data, black-and-white thinking wouldn't be enough to model any problem. We use math (i.e. Black-and-White thinking as a natural philosphy) to describe the entire universe with all it's complexity, random chance included. I think that when black-and-white thinking is "wrong," it's because of an incomplete data set, or human error, not because it's invalid to try and find definite answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:54 PM
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I'm actually going to push back on this. I think that black-and-white thinking is fine/perhaps the foundation of optimal results, but the issue is that you need to learn how to present the facts in a palatable way and contextualized way for other people. It's not either/or, it's both/and. Men struggle with dating when they lack the lack the emotional graces to soften/contextualize thier data, (or when thier dataset is incomplete.) Women struggle with dating when they fool themselves into thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:34 PM
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I think there are biological undertones, but a lot of it is socialization. Emotionalism or the lack thereof has very different utilities for each gender, which individuals will learn (probably harshly) despite thier natural tendencies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:26 PM
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They're very real examples of the traumas/heartaches that come with trying for kids and why not everyone is cut out to have them. But they don't both "come with trying for kids." There is always a risk of a pregnancy miscarrying. That is an unavoidable reality given the capabilites and limitations of of modern science and medicine. But in the 21st century, we have the technology to verify paternity with close to 100% accuracy. The only reason that there needs to be a risk of parental uncertainty…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:00 PM
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How do you 100% protect your wife from miscarrying or the child from having some kind of illness incompatible with life and being stillborn? You can't. Terrible analogy. You don't 100% protect your wife from from miscarrying because it's literally impossible to do so, not because you're just stoically "accepting risk." On the the other hand, knowing that your children are actually yours with near 100% certainty is completely possible, potentially routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:28 PM
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The government protects the vulnerable not deliberate morons. Since they are not the ones to give birth, men are 100% vulnerable to paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:16 PM
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I think we need some more visibility on how your "vibe" serves our business needs. I have to hop to another meeting, but let's circle back later and touch base on how this "vibe" can be leveraged to address our Q2 deliverables.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:56 PM
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https://youtu.be/B5YFLUj-NNk?si=9xOAvCNU5bzOq_Ln
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:43 PM
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Bro, totally
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:52 PM
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The cute New Ethiopian girl I just onboarded is making it tough not to shit where I eat. HR gives you a pads on Valentine's Day, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:55 PM
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Very specifically being gaslit and lied to, you mean. How dare men fall victim to female dishonesty!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:19 PM
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be these behavioral things: “men who are bold, extroverted, assertive, fun, not too inhibited, and socially charismatic.” *The difference between these positive traits and their negative versions are often identical behaviors from different perspectives, contexts, and nuances. be not neurotic Because to get better at the above behavior, you will need some level of comfort being potentially seen as a bad person. If your primary focus in life is "never upset anyone inder any circumstances" you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:26 AM
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What about what I’m saying isn’t happening in reality? Lol. What you are doing is pushing back against the common observation that "women like bad boys" by using whatever subjective internal (and likely self-serving) logic women may use as justification i.e. "We don't like Bad Boys, we like all these other positive things that only Bad Boys seem to be capable of." But my point is to let go of the subjective whys and wherefores. That is a trap that can and does trick men into doing the ineffectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:14 PM
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You're being honest and clarifying about your subjective feelings. I have no doubt that you really do feel what what you feel. What actually happens in reality is another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:07 PM
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Most woman don’t want a meanie. But many will settle for it for the other traits. (And then complain to their friends about his asshole ways until their ultimate divorce.) And yeah, back to my original reply to OP, ultimately the women I see who are generally happy together with their asshole men are also asshole women. And this, in practice, is just more spinning up of female plausible deniability. Because who is and who isn't "a meanie," and in fact, most of the other desirable traits that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:55 PM
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And so we return to the comfortable position of it always being men's fault if something goes wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:30 PM
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You seem to have some morality and value judgement hang ups that don’t got shit to do with women lol. You're projecting HARD. You were the one that was trying to equate liking bad boys with some sort of moral failure on women's part. That's YOUR judgement, which you seem to be trying to use to handwave any attraction women may have to toxic men: "Oh, those women you see that like bad men...they're bad women!" My reply was the opposite - that women are human and, just like the examples I gave for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:39 AM
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"Do you know who I am?" moment of 2024 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:04 AM
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This is what women mean when they say they can "smell the misogyny" on incels. More accurately, they can detect a bitter, lonely man that no other woman wants. The existence or absence of any misogyny has little bearing on that, seeing as how women can be irresistibly drawn to the exact types of men that are the biggest actual threats to their lives. No, women can "smell" when a man is a genetic dead end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:01 AM
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Men on this sub have to realize that women don't go around doing dating calculus in their heads. Sometimes women are just stupid or mentally ill and make fucking bad decisions based on irrational factors and feelings. Men would realize this faster if women didn't constantly lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:37 AM
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No matter how many men claim they want the girl next door, they will always hit on the wild one. Wrong. Men want the hottest, most willing one. The fact that a lot of those girls are toxic is an unfortunate side effect, not the draw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:33 AM
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This narrative is mostly just women trying to avoid accountability for what they are attracted to. When men notice that women are widely attracted to Bad Boys, it's either skirting responsibility by claiming that men are hyperfocusing on damaged women, or it's because "Bad Boys" are master manipulators that somehow take otherwise reasonable women completely by surprise. For all the talk of women wanting to be "treated like people" in this case, they seem to squirm away from the idea that, like p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:30 AM
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Women who are attracted to bad men, are also bad. Just World Fallacy. Taming the Bad Boy is a widely popular fantasy for all kinds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:48 PM
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Then there are the blue pill actual nice guys who think you just have to be a good person and women will be attracted to that. Reddit will not hesitate to accuse those men of being the meme "Nice Guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:46 PM
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Because this seems like a terrible strawman. It is. The vast majority of Nice Guys are "genuinely decent human beings who are sexually and romantically frustrated" that get immediately accused of being entitled, passive-aggressive perverts the moment they dare express any frustration out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:44 PM
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Like eating a candy bar with the wrapper still on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:06 PM
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Checking in to remind you all that snow sucks ass
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:57 PM
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Wtf? Women are going to reject the average man long before his porn usage is even worth consideration. Yeah, yeah...you dislike porn, but this post doesn't even make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:05 AM
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Corps are literally grubbing at old folks to get their credit card info for autopay subscriptions. You shouldn't have to be tech savvy to just watch something that is broadcast for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:00 PM
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Potentially, except most TVs in the past 20 or so years seem to designed without Broadcast reception as a priority
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:58 PM
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New Circle of Hell Unlocked: It's Super Bowl Sunday, and you are tech support for a bunch of people that are both too poor for cable and too tech illiterate for streaming services
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:59 PM
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So young people should continue to struggle with the basics of life especially when it comes to affording housing and medical care? I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:06 AM
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Guilt has been one of woman's survival mechanisms, imagine how worse it would be for them if everyone saw the average woman as a general piece of shit like the average man is seen, but without the ability to defend herself. Ass whoopins would be justified lol Or they could just...genuinely try to be good people, instead of trying to do thier bullshit and escape the consequences tf?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:48 PM
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Of course as a society we could improve the economy so more people could be seen as successful. That would make pairing up with men more desirable. Wrong. A rising tide lifts women's minimum standards
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:40 PM
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And men feel women owe them sex. You've learned nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:36 PM
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Women all shocked pikachu when they find out men are human and have feelings lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:28 PM
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My old ass would Probably get killed delivering them to the 2X hq or whatever Sniped on sight by the Sisterhood
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:16 PM
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But it's not "women literally never suffered at no point in history, at all" which is what a some dudes say here, and get upvotes. You have seen men on this sub arguing that women literally never suffered at any point in history? Surely, you have examples?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 09:47 PM
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The problem isn't women having preferences, it's them lying about it and/or making it seem like it's some kind of moral problem with the men they aren't attracted to instead of just admitting that they are shallow as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:52 PM
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For the last time, "sharing" a high value guy is more like being on a rotation of serial monogamy instead of Mormon Sister Wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:14 AM
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I love the ones with lyrics added!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:11 AM
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were called sugar titz. More like "serving wench"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:10 AM
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Okay I can f with those boots
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:05 AM
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It's okay to admit y'all are just jealous of how many pockets we have
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:49 PM
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You could be a literal, 'chad' but if you don't appear approachable, no one will approach. Lol yeah they will. If Chad is quiet and brooding in the corner, women will just think he's "mysterious," "shy" and "tall, dark and handsome" and sooner or later one of them is going to hop over there and do her best manic pixie dream girl attempt to try and "fix him" and "break him out of his shell."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:41 PM
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Only losing weight and building muscle seem to be in your control. Luckily, these two features are the primary factors in determining whether you are an ugly duckling or a swan, especially if you are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:58 PM
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Why do guys do this? Is pussy really that good? People knowing that you get pussy is better than actually getting pussy tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:10 PM
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I'd probably be too lazy to keep up with Girl #1's. If she really is able to tolerate me, it might influence me to be a more social/healthier person. I almost would want to go with her just to challenge myself to be better. Girl #2 is probably the more realistic right off the bat, which also might be better for my mental health. Iunno. It really would come down to how good our chemistry is together, all else equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:24 AM
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So shitty that you probably need a good deal of social pressure (like a family history of police work) to actually choose to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:39 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:42 PM
1

My birthday is also next week. Time for the annual escort and chlamydia package
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:12 PM
1

Or because everyone is fit, that means no one is, and only the superhuman extremes of genetic or artificial beauty will have any value in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:11 PM
2

the success What success?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:00 PM
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The problem is, because people see single men saying misogynistic things online Rather, people go looking for reasons to dismiss the compalints of unsuccessful men because otherwise they would have to confront the fact that life isn't a meritocracy and people often don't get what they deserve. It's the exact same treatment that poor people get. Everyone is desperate to prove that thier situation is somehow thier fault in order to uphold thier vision of a Just World, so unfortunate people's finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:37 PM
2

Don't feel bad bro. I once missed the hint when a woman offered to show me her tits
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:58 PM
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It's a step above not speaking about it at all. But it's not a very good, positive, healthy, or respectful one. Best case scenario is that it opens up the door to dissenting and actually pro-male voices to step in and correct him, use his name and recognition to springboard into actual discussion and support. He's a potential opportunity, not a solution or a viable advocate in himself. At this point, I don't know if I'm more afraid of things getting worse or if I'm more afraid of the drip feed o…
/r/MensRights06/02/24 09:13 PM
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It doesn't work as much as you think it does Niether does being a nice guy, and that is probably the bigger misconception of the two
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:51 PM
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thats what i do... We were talking about what your grandmother had to do to get repairs done... According to you, she had to get married instead of just paying a service provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:22 PM
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I understood the assignment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:46 AM
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-Candy -Dream -Foxxxy -Diamond -Kitty -Lexxxus -Stormy -Venus -Angel -Champagne -Roxxxy -Mystique -Sapphire -Luscious -Babydoll -Crystal -Cherry -Destiny -Exxxotica
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:48 PM
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Women have always been considered the moral agents of society. To the point of inciting war or peace (see: Lysistrata and the White Feather campaign,) influencing changes to the written law codes of nations (see: the 18th Amendment to the US Constitution,) and fomenting Revolutions (see: the Women's Marches of the French Revolution of 1789 and the Russian February Revolution of 1917.) The idea that women were and are historically these powerless victims of society just because they tended to not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/24 08:00 PM
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Ahh, the pumpkin spice latte of the dog world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:29 PM
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Do they honestly think things were okay until andrew tate showed up? Yes, that's exactly what they think. In fact, they still think that things are okay and that young men are just complaining over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:24 PM
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Pay him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:56 PM
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Your grandma would have had to marry a handyman to get him to fix anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:48 PM
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I always thought it was meant ironically, like "Enjoy your time in Hell!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:46 PM
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I kinda morbidly enjoy cornering them on the yes/no questions, tbh. There's no hope of changing thier minds, or getting them to admit they might have been wrong, so next best thing is to just watch them squirm and dig thier own rhetorical grave in front of an audience lmao.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 10:18 PM
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didn't work. Performance anxiety is unstoppable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:27 PM
2

Nobody is actually considering global population when considering whether or not to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:45 PM
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why would their dicks evolve for pleasure when they don't have sex for pleasure They wouldn't. But ours did. What does that tell you about the fact that humans evolved to have unusually large dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:38 PM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:27 PM
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People are "dating" and falling in love with AIs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:21 PM
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It's already happening
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:52 PM
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If women truly didn't like big dicks, they'd be genetically selected out, instead of slowly getting larger with time. Not only that, but humans have abnormally big dicks relative to our size compared to other animals (gorillas and chimps have micropeens) and our dicks have gotten measurably larger across recorded history.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:49 PM
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Unironically though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:45 PM
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I see a woman walking past who's more my style and think "it would be super cool if I could just ask her if she wants to join me for a drink". Not that you've asked for it, but my advice would be instead to strike up a conversation and then offer the drink after you've built some rapport. The benefit here would be plausible deniablility against this valid concern: I don't want to look like a) the sad loser with no friends or b) the creep who's trying to get her drunk with the expectation of sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:26 PM
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Men are shamed and judged more for almost every single aspect of sexuality than women are.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 07:21 PM
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What misandry does to a mf
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:51 AM
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But to find a long term high quality man to spend a lifetime with, that isn’t easy. Difference being that it's still easier for you than it is for a comparable man, and your worst case scenario (i.e. just the sex) is still better than the man's worst case scenario (literal decades without the slightest sign of interest from any woman.) This IS NOT an equal situation, and the growing gender divide reflects people coming to terms with the inequity of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:21 PM
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Men who are hyperfocused on a woman’s outward attractiveness will idealize her personality. A lot of men want their wives/girlfriends to behave like golden retrievers: I was with you up until this point, which, while accurate, is twisting a lot of your gripes about ways men can be selfish into pedestalization, which is the opposite problem. She should always be happy/sweet/cheerful. She should be a constant emotional support. What men want is for women not to get upset for no discernable reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:42 PM
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Well it's also local as opposed to global, which is why Passport bros are a thing. The trailer park crackhead are having children with other trailer park crackheads
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:48 AM
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Not so much brownie points, but more to spare yourself the trouble of conflict or upsetting others. Women tell little white lies to avoid hurting feelings or generating unnecessary drama constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:54 PM
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Sure, but why give up the brownie point? Being honest has no benefit and only provides your enemies ammunition to use against you, even if it's low stakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:37 PM
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But ALL of the women? Not 1 of them would think, "hmm... No, she is an unhealthy weight which is unattractive and therefore I'll have to disagree with the others" They may think differently for sure, but they will never vocalize it. You seem to be underestimating both women's eagerness to pounce on the one that breaks rank and women's fear of being the target of that kind of ostracism, especially over something as trivial as shallow opinions on a celebrity's body. Law of Power #38: “Think as You…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:50 PM
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I agreed with you up until it became the people of color raping white women trope that is disproven by data you even acknowledged… If I may, this is a good occasion to reflect on the part that you've agreed with her on. Because she's using the exact same thought process against people of color that she is using against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:40 PM
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The nightmare scenario is if women's true sexual selectivity is intractably much higher. I have no good answers for that, so best to first explore all the possibilities that are not THAT. This is what I'm talking about though. This is the hard question that is being avoided, and, annoyingly, the last thing that it seems anybody wants to do is to put some of the solution for this on women. "Oh, sorry. Women can't help their standards. Maybe if we reorganized society so that they don't want what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:09 AM
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To be more direct about it, what I'm really getting at here is that I believe that there are some difficult choices that will have to be made because, as you say, we are never free of our biology entirely. That there probably ISN'T some practical end-run solution around the antagonisms, contradictions and cross-purposes where both genders can meet in the middle and be adequately happy. That the reality is that for greatest number of men and women to be together, everyone is going to have to prep…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:28 AM
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I totally agree with your point that the issue comes down to maladjusted selection heuristics, but my further contention is the utter refusal of both genders to face the reality of the situation. For men, they either feed into the problem by adopting the negative behavior, thus perpetuating the cycle or by refusing to hold women and themselves accountable for their choices by pretending to not see how clearly women are attracted to some level of toxicity in men. Women try to have it both ways by…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:50 AM
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I doubt that. So did a lot of men until they saw it happen over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:00 AM
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You can go tell that to girls in western europe who get raped by middle easter immigrants 😬 Radfems and male-focused racism. Name a more iconic duo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:08 PM
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Of course when out alone at night you'd be more wary of a certain population if they're more violent and crime committing. I think that a lot of people would see that as prejudice and unjust profiling. Especially when... because it happens all the time everywhere. The number of men arrested for violent crime every year in the US is fewer than 1% of the total adult male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:02 PM
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So, are you saying that this rhetoric is valid for the time periods and cultures where that is the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:28 PM
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Intersectionality for everyone except straight men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:05 PM
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Yeah, me neither. I was a goodie-goodie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:03 PM
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Most women (not all) are not chasing dudes that mistreat them. You would assume so, but most men have seen evidence that challenges that assumption. So if that's really what these kindly dudes mean, they're branding themselves as not at all capable of critical thought (and I mean not at all capable, I don't mean bad at it, I mean not doing it at all). But they literally are though. The expectation that they are given by society, women and all common sense is that women should not like men that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:59 PM
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You don't need to be super agreeable to be kind. Having an edge, being interesting, having backbone, etc. do not mean being an asshole. But it also does not mean being nicer. In fact, having an edge, having a backbone etc are about tapping into that side of yourself that isn't so nice and accomodating, and being able to do that, at least a little, is likely the bare minimum if you want to succeed. This is the issue. No part of a man becoming more attractive has anything to do with being nicer, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:39 PM
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Being nice never hurts your chances. Never say never.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:14 PM
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Of course, I'm open to this not being the case, but I think we really need to start digging in on what the fuck these guys mean when they say how kind they are. They probably mean "I am at least kinder than the asshole that regularly mistreats women, that is somehow very popular despite that fact"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:08 PM
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Genuinely though. Men Black people are more likely to be a physical threat to women and men people of their own and other races. Men Black people commit more violent crimes. It’s just cut and dry. If you’re a man Black person there’s more of a chance another man Black person is gonna rob/rape you than a woman white person will. It’s obviously not all men Black people but I don’t get why totally normal dudes Black people get so upset that women other races have to take precautions bc of the actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:55 PM
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"Just walk on water and die for our sins, bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:08 PM
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Whether it is MAXIMALLY attractive in a purely erotic sense can be debated, but doesn't really matter. It does when the person is asking for advice on how to achieve their goal and the advice you've given is a direct hindrance to that goal. Q: "How do I get a job?" A: "Get a face tattoo."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:31 PM
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Man moment AKA "observing reality"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:24 PM
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And then let's replace "love" with "money" or "food" - "You are not entitled to money, if someone is not willing to pay for your work - it means that you are simply useless for society, please enjoy your poverty and do not bother people who have money, touch grass and be happy - there is so many poor people out there and look at them, they don't complain". The standard response: "Uhm - this analogy doesn't make sense, sweaty. You aren't going to die just because you can't get your dick wet. How …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:20 PM
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There’s nothing more unattractive than a person who’s not able to have their own opinion. I really want to amplify this because I think both men and women avoid drawing this out to it's conclusion. There is nothing...NOTHING...more unattractrive than a man who is so spineless that he seems like he is not able to have his own opinion. Nothing. Not an abuser. Not a cheater. Not a player. Not a rapist. Not a criminal. Not a manipulator. Not even a physically unattractive person. Every single one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:46 PM
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Now, they may be wrong or distorting reality to feed their erotic fantasy; nevertheless, it's important to note that pure, unmitigated evil is generally repellent to women if they can see it for what it is. Not just terrifying, but also repulsive. This is the important point of contention, though: No matter how "repellent" anybody claims evil is, nothing, NOTHING, is more unattractive to women than being a little bit too nice and a bit spineless. Be a ruthless asshole, steal from the elderly, ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:28 PM
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Yes, those would be some examples. To be distinguished from other forms of power such as raw physical force, authority granted by a public office or institutions, or the accumulation of economic resources
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:22 PM
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Ugh, that's heartbreaking. This is why I can't have pets
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:12 PM
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Without hesitation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:06 PM
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Daughter. Always daughter. Having sons is child abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:04 PM
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I'm lowkey in it for the shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:00 PM
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Sir those are separate words, you know, like macaroni and cheese. Ma'am, you just...combine them. Like macaroni and cheese. You have macaroni. You have cheese. Put 'em together and what have you got? Macaroni and cheese. So, combining terms in that proud tradition, using the definitions provided. "social power" would be... "Relating to society or it's organization, the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality, and/or the capacity to direct or influen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:28 PM
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I did. so·cial /ˈsōSH(ə)l/ adjective relating to society or its organization. pow·er /ˈpou(ə)r/ noun the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality. the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:05 PM
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If those above you in power don't think of you as competent enough to advance in your career, you will be unable to. This applies to both genders. one could reach honorable fatherhood easily because the obstacles are people with no control over you. the only place this would apply is in court The way that people exercise thier control over you is by invoking the legal/justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:12 PM
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in·fra·struc·tur·al /ˌinfrəˈstrək(t)SH(ə)rəl/ adjective relating to the basic physical and organizational structures and facilities needed for the operation of a society or enterprise. so·cial /ˈsōSH(ə)l/ adjective relating to society or its organization. pow·er /ˈpou(ə)r/ noun the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality. the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:56 PM
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single mothers are shamed, but single fathers are honored for stepping up. motherhood is expected, fatherhood? a man is a decent father he is honored. Men have a harder time "stepping up" as fathers as people generally do expect them to be incompetent, unsafe or even perverted when caring for children, much in a reverse way to how you are probably familiar with women being negatively stereotyped, discouraged and discriminated against when trying to step into masculine roles. And just as women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:48 PM
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Because (infra)structural power and social power are two different things and one doesn't imply the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:36 PM
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feminine coded things have always been treated as inferior to society. it's why women are bolstered and given honor when taking masc roles, but men are shamed for taking feminine roles. Depends. Motherhood seems to be far more honored than fatherhood. Also, could be argued that women are allowed to prove themselves as capable in a masculine way while men are shamed for daring to to try and take the protected role of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:35 PM
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Now, hold on. Let's not be hasty here. I do have this broken arm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:29 PM
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Yeah, you sure showed me! That one time I saw that bald, potbellied 4'9" Indian janitor get a date proved that women are infinitely unknowable and unique individuals and that general trends and patterns don't exist. All those advertising, media, marketing and political professionals are totally spinning thier wheels trying to tailor thier products to achieve wide appeal, since everyone knows that people are all a completely unique individuals with an entire set of mutually exclusive and unpredic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:27 PM
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masculine coded things like leadership, control, agency, dominance vs feminine coded things like housekeeping, detail work, and submissive. ok Are you trying to say that feminine coded things are inferior somehow? I don't think so. social media is an example of the most absurd people with absurd expectations. I'm looking for self-induced, not socmed inspiration This is self-induced. Nobody is forcing women to live up to social media standards, but it's the basically same exact cumpulsion that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:18 PM
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Feel free to use the search engine of your choice and discover why men have perpetuated the "honest man" stereotype while abusing that power in politics, dating, and in church for generations. All examples of why nobody shames skeptical women when they side-eye men and why #BelieveMen isn't a thing that ever took off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:14 PM
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less being expected of women is a prevailing thought through our patriarchal history. "Less" is highly contextual. "Less" was expected of women in masculine coded things. "Less" was expected of men for feminine coded things. give me an example of a woman giving herself self-inflicted pressure, I have never heard of this at all. Social media is filled with examples of self-inflicted pressure in that living up to what is presented there is ultimately optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:08 PM
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Mmm...yes. Accusing someone of coping means you don't have to actually prove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:53 PM
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Do men lie? Yes, much in the same way that women lie. Nobody's expecting women to just believe men at their word, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:51 PM
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Oh, nono, I understand your point. Certainly, when men witness women doing the exact opposite of what they claim to be doing, it's all just a big misunderstanding, I'm sure. Apologies, we should have known not to trust our lying eyes over what women tell us to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:49 PM
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If this is the female nature, why wouldn’t we have gone the whole feminist route hundreds of years ago? Because hundreds of years ago, women needed to compromise with men to survive more than they do now. Why is it that only hurt men are drawn to it ? Because the people comfortable with the status quo are less likely to complain about it or search for solutions. Why is it that that everything about the female nature is negative and everything about the male nature is mostly vague but positive an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:31 PM
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Crazy how red pillers have such a “clear” understanding of women despite being told directly by women that they don’t. Right. Because women would never lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:10 PM
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Sex Worker
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:56 PM
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Okay that's your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:26 PM
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Eh, she's mid. Say "thanks" and shut the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:16 PM
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Not voting for either is a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:13 PM
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Fall of 2005. University of Massachusetts Amherst.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 01:05 AM
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I've said this before and I'll say it again---whatever else I might have to say about feminists, I will give them their due in the fact that they know gender. They know the ins and outs of masculinity and femininity and how it ticks and functions. This is one of the things that make me extremely skeptical of the Patriarchy narrative. Gender is a handicap for men because we don't seem to think in a strategic way about it. Yes, we are on average the more physically capable of the sexes, but the wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 12:07 AM
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Oh yeah. The most vivid discrimination I have ever felt (for context, I am a Black man in America) was during my college orientation when a feminist got up on stage and did the "Look to your left, look to your right one of those men will rape you" thing. That was the most I had ever felt stereotyped and ostracized as threatening, unwanted and othered mostly because, contray to something like racism which is condemned for the most part in the 21st century, this blatant sexism was proudly displaye…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 11:49 PM
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Halloween
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:37 PM
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Because hope is for women and babies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:37 PM
1

Start eating it instead
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:35 PM
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That was the neat part about lockdown. I didn't have anybody to impress. Take a shower and change out of the PJs I've been wearing for the last two weeks straight, you say? https://preview.redd.it/qrhklmusx9ec1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=9d9e4b67fc32ba3d43072ef7a7bd6b4655c26380
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:27 PM
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I may be only 5'8" but at least I still have a foreskin 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:23 PM
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The Greeks had the right idea. Bring back nude gyms!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:22 PM
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I unironically LOVED lockdown. Everything was so quiet and peaceful. The streets were soothingly empty and if you ever had to go out you had a free reason to hide your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:21 PM
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I just give up and enjoy being low value. It tastes like pizza!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:18 PM
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Flirting tip of the week: One of you has to be the straight man and the other the funny guy. Guys who struggle to flirt are often unwilling to be the funny guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:18 PM
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Ooof, played yourself. Always under promise and overdeliver
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:07 PM
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Is it slaw without cabbage? Suggest adding red cabbage. Also duck fat? Genius
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:26 AM
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they also have to be attractive enough More like don't be objectively unattractive (i.e. literally disfigured.) The spectrum of what men in general find attractive enough covers something like 80% of women. You are near guaranteed to get attention from some number of men just by being a woman and in public. By your own admission, you put no effort in and got approached at least once a year. This success rate far exceeds the effort/results ratio of the average man. Men will need to either be luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:20 PM
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"Women have to do basically nothing" has an implied "Women have to accept one of the men that approaches them"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:32 PM
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Have you ever been approached?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:02 PM
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Interesting... but tell me more: how are they so ideologically opposed? Because the basis of the TERF argument is in favor of orthodox, exclusionary feminism (i.e "More Feminism) and MRA views are either antifeminist or in favor of inclusive feminism (i.e. "Less Feminism") This would be like trying to get a staunch capitalist and committed socialist to agree on the ideal economic policy. Personally, I see Rowling as being motivated by Duluth Model misandry rather than by transphobia, This illust…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 04:34 AM
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I wonder whether any TERFs are now thinking, "Maybe I was unfair to some of those MRAs who swore it really was about integrity in video-gane journalism..." Highly doubt it. There can't really be any kind of "kindred spirit" argument that you're making. I understand the temptation to do so, given the similarity of the detractions lobbied against both groups. But the association immediately rubbed me the wrong way. After thinking about it, I realized it comes down to polarity. Because those accusa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 01:55 AM
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Unfortunately, all that hinges on what women are attracted to. When women are having sex and relationships with a wider spectrum of masculinity, then we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:08 PM
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I do want to be a writer but I am not sure if this is the way It is. You can still sit at an upscale coffee shop where they serve les cafés et les croissants très luxueux off of real porcelain plates, looking all deep and sophisticated while you write your smut, and no one will be the wiser. Don't let your dreams stay dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:42 PM
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What in the Bourgeois fuck did I just watch?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:30 PM
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Boomers trying to sing along with what the kids are listening to like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:24 PM
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Legal protections against domestic violence go back to at least the 17th century and rarely, if ever, consider men as potential victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:33 PM
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To push back on both points: I’m simply not convinced that all men want is the mousy girl next door but are just terrorized unrelentingly by the crazy cheerleader. I'm not claiming that, and I don't think most men would either. Men and the wider society seem to be pretty (self) aware that men are attracted to physical beauty and sexuality to the exclusion of almost everything else, to the point that we have common idioms like "thinking with his dick" and ancient stories of men literally killing,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:54 AM
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Do you really think women are seeking out ugly toxic men the same way they’re seeking out hot toxic men? Because "toxic" isn't really any objective behavior in this case, and plausible deniability is the name of the game. It's not that women are just tolerating toxicity from hot guys. It's that the "toxic" behavior is hot when hot guys do it. But then, if a guy isn't attractive, she can fall back on criticizing his behavior as a reason for rejecting him. The ravishiment fantasies, the dominance,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:07 AM
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Except hot assholes pull across the spectrum of women, not only the hot bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:51 PM
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Women are fucking as much as they want. I don’t get this idea you have to work for it Because the men they want to fuck excludes a sizeable number of men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:23 PM
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A lot of hot assholes categorically refuse to eat pussy and still pull
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:20 PM
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Of course. Oral is a requirement for sex. Appreciate and mirror your enthusiasm for oral, but this definitely isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:18 PM
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Someone else doing the cooking and/or cleaning
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:16 PM
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Masturbate instead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:15 PM
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At my lowest points, I would have said life hopefully includes some pleasure but definitely includes a lot of pain and that the one isn't necessarily worth the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:51 PM
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I've learned not to try and find some kind of "worth" of the pain, because sometimes it just isn't, and it ends up being a good argument for self-deletion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:33 PM
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I know, but prefering something doesn't mean you hate the other options. This isn't what women tend to say though, "I prefer big cock, but average ones are okay, too" No, it's always something that comes off as sugarcoated: "Oh, different women like different things", "the big ones hurt," "Most women need clitoral stimulation to orgasm," "the best sex I've ever had the guy didn't have the biggest," etc and so forth. All of that may be true but comes off as evasive when we're specifically concern…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:06 AM
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Modded Astarion into a chick. Halsin's next.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:50 PM
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Lol mf like: "just be confident, bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:30 PM
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Agree, but the amount of dating success that comes down to plausible deniability, "faking it" and outright lying is funny. The game is the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:58 PM
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"But don't try a hobby with the primary motive of meeting women because that's creepy"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:50 PM
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Disclaimer: Only works if you're a pro athlete
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:08 PM
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Hearing "Ayy papi que rrrrrrrrico" is just 🤌 Never gets old
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:28 PM
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Mani/Pedi fishing is real
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:24 PM
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All the guys angry that some women find it easier to find sexual partners should be really angry at how easy it is for gay guys to find sexual partners. Nah, the fact that gay guys also have an easy time getting laid just reinforces the fact that women are the roadblock here. Literally is a hating the player, not the game moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:30 PM
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Just go on a solo vacation to cure it. Fuck your itenerary, Karen!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:09 PM
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Why Nintendo specifically? Or are you using "Nintendo" to mean videogames in general like some kinda Boomer?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:06 PM
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10-20 Emails. Maybe double that in IMs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:04 PM
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Check my OnlyFans for that, babe 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:50 PM
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Woke up like this https://preview.redd.it/lqc34i8th2cc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec3c2105f959116899cf1d31a2a7f7e0ad760bb4
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:17 PM
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​ https://preview.redd.it/mrkz8oyyd2cc1.png?width=808&format=png&auto=webp&s=f28b38cce9e88f9ae8749ee13c7dc6ad734662ba Yeah, you like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:55 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:49 PM
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I'll give you that most women grow out of it eventually but, no, dealing with a fuccboi is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:42 PM
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I didn't say all women were the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:40 PM
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So women are either abusive or ending up with fuccbois, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:39 PM
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Physical strength isn't the only kind of power and using physical force is often straight up illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:38 PM
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Or rather, visibly wielding power makes you responsible for whatever happens, so just benefitting from it behind the scenes is much less risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:47 PM
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Nope. Vast majority of women have a fuccboi experience. Something about the toxicity is actively attractive to most women, even though the consequences suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:41 PM
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It's accurate or not. The sexism claim is irrelevant and nonsensical here. It's sexist because it's inaccurate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:23 PM
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First, one could argue that women ARE more moral than men in terms of Christian morality. Absolutely not, and it's sexist as hell to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:27 PM
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See the rules will not change, true as the only thing which most males crave touch and sexual pleasure of penetration a live vagina But they don't. Because then prostitution would solve the dating market. Yup and if that is substituted, will they feel that need? I don't think so. Except sexbots, as you describe them, will not subtitute that need because they are machines that are literally bought and programmed for the sole purpose of having sex with the owner. That is not "attracting a partner"…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:14 AM
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And why do they need female affection? Because mating is a basic biological urge and besides that human males have been socialized to place a lot of their sense of masulinity, personhood and belonging on thier ability to successfully attract a woman. More control over kinks and turn ons, Limited by whatever an individual sexbot is built/programmed to do. Also cheaper, and more easily achived by porn, VR and AI. simulation of a sexual partner irl, sense of touch (materials can be made such that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:29 PM
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Why do they grovel? Primarily because they've been conditioned to think that this is an effective way to earn female affection. It could be due to social stigma which the robots can take care of as no one will know it's in his bedroom unless they check themselves. Also the stigma of religion for some people stops them from seeking out prostitutes. This way is a workaround All true of masturbation, toys, porn, onlyfans and sex dolls, which are all cheaper than sexbots and already exist. What just…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:03 PM
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Let us be clear what's plaguing the market as of now. The number one problem is simps, The very fact that simps feel the need to grovel to women for scraps shows that they aren't the problem. The matter as much as a homeless person does to a billionaire. The access to sex will decrease which will make them less thirsty and also less touch deprived. This will cause them not to throw away their standards and look for any woman to settle with. There are places where prostitution is legal, in addtio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:28 PM
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It worked for Gay Men. It worked for Black Men. It worked for Atheist Men. By blaming straight white men. There's no other boogeyman to blame if we want to generate sympathy for straight white men, so it's never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:47 PM
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Crocs see us as prey so ima go with the gator
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:57 AM
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Meanwhile, women complaining about misogyny in every other form of media possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:56 AM
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Overrated af. 10.00 for a basic ass burger that's looks like they dumped in oil and threw it against the wall and then you don't even have the common decency to include fries. Shiiiiieeeet...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:57 AM
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Or better yet, maybe Tanisha will call your dog ass if she ever stop fuckin with that brain surgeon or lawyer she fuckin with. N***gaaaaaa
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:51 AM
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She could actually be really smart but she'd never have a chance to demonstrate that. Tf you mean? Do University degrees have cup size limits now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:45 AM
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You think it's always that obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:39 PM
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Do women get that in a relationship? It's like they can almost guarantee their man will have sex with them when they go home. They don't need to work for it That's anxiety: "I might not get what I want and the suspense of it is making me feel things" Anticipation would be "When I get what I want, it's going to be so good."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:27 PM
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For example?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:23 PM
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How do couples even flirt? I heard that flirting is a mix of lust and anxiety. I would say it's more anticipation rather than anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:20 PM
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The message to men should be "True, being a nice guy may not get you a ton of attention from women, but that's ok. Be a good person anyway because its the right thing to do." That's not entirely true, either. Being a nice guy may actively repulse women and sonk your attractiveness up to and including keeping you entirely celibate for the foreseeable future. It would be an easier sell to say that men may get less attention, but the reality that a lot of men are staring down is that they might nev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 12:13 PM
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Those are social skills not personality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:33 AM
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A reasonable and empathetic man will not make an issue because he believes his partner, see how that works? Especially if they’ve been together for years, there’s never been any hint of cheating, he would understand the hurt and resentment his insecurity is going to cause. And probably every single person that got defrauded probably thought the same and still got fucked over. That's how betrayal works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:26 AM
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Brave =/= stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:22 AM
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Sure, but I would say the onus of honesty should be on the person who’s most likely to do the hurting. That entire argument hinges an uncalled for anticipation that someone is going to want more than sex. There's absolutely no rule that states sex should lead to anything, and much, if not most of the time, it doesn't. Not anymore, anyway. I would say that it's everyone's responsibility to protect themselves from getting hurt, not on others to anticipate your needs. For example, if you go to a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:47 AM
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How about it's on the woman to express that she only wants to have sex if it leads to a relationship? Why should people be expected to anticipate and mind read other people's desire to make a transaction? Name one other case where that happens. That's like the homeless dude coming to wash you windshield and then asking you to pay them for their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:23 PM
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Ah. Assumed you were meeting her for a date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:00 PM
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my best actor blowjob skills Suck her so good she sees stars, my man 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:58 PM
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In other news, fuck snow
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:56 PM
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Oh am I? Please elaborate. What I'm hearing is that a wanting a woman for something more than sex is a basic human courtesy. I'd disagree with that. No one owes anyone any kind of personal relationship, besides your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:53 PM
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I'm going to disagree with most of the comments here. The elephant in the room is sex and relationships with women. Men can and do get together in male support groups, hobbies, guys nights out, etc. RIGHT NOW. Most men have at least some friends, and a lot of the reporting around that seems to not consider male-coded modes/styles of friendship. E.g. a lot of men socialize heavily online, but most people seem to think that this "doesn't count." But still, men are "lonelier" than ever. No, what ne…
/r/MensRights07/01/24 07:30 PM
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Mine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:33 AM
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That's black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:31 AM
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We're not talking about anyone being raped. Having sex with someone doesn't imply anything after the fact. It's not a transaction. What is it that women like to say about Nice Guys..."You can't just put nice tokens in and expect to get sex out"? Well, same goes the other way around. You can't just put sex tokens in and expect to get a relationship out. Not anymore anyway. Oh noooo, is the Sexual Revolution backfiring?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:00 AM
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Unattractive men don't deserve any particular relationship perks either. Everyone deserves basic human courtesy, but the benefits of a romantic relationship fall outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:56 AM
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They don't deserve to be treated as more than cum socks just because they're women either. Unattractive men don't get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:47 AM
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They want Trump to be worse than Hitler and Jan 6 to be worse than 9/11 so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:41 AM
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Watching Zoomers struggle to read cursive makes me feel like Gandalf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:39 AM
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Man, women really love when you play with their hair. White women maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:37 AM
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Cock whisperer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:20 PM
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"Men should be more emotionally available, but not like that!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:15 PM
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Because of not for porn guys would have no outlet for their sex drives. It's almost as if that's exactly what many porn-negative people want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:12 PM
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Quiting porn is a common recommendation in self improvement spaces to motivate men to focus on real women. The recommendation: "Isn't it just so fulfilling to struggle constantly with a real woman that will challenge you?! It’s like playing Elden Ring!!" (Paraphrasing, but someone actually said that shit)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:09 PM
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Boba Tea >>>>>>>>> Women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:34 AM
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So it’s not really going to help then is it? Band-aids do help, even if they don't solve the core problem. Upthread there are a bunch of women claiming that moments of emotional vulnerability with their husbands result in sex. That's what men want: to know that you're not going to think less of him in moments of weakness and an obvious way to show that is through sex. The actual problem is men need to stop dumping all their emotions and stresses onto just their partner and balance out their issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:40 PM
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If any women are saying they don't need penetration, they're telling the truth. Because god knows they aren't saying it to protect our feelings. They wouldn't be saying it to protect our feelings, they'd be saying it to signal thier virtue. i.e. Body shaming would make women look bad, better to make men out to be delusional and insecure instead of admitting that they have preferences that exclude men for reasons beyond men's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:01 PM
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The sex is really just a band-aid. The real problem is that men need this kind of affirmation from women in the first place. The actual solution is for men to not derive thier sense of masculine identity from what women think, which is a much bigger, systemic fish to fry and not something that you will actually be able to handle personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:47 PM
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You said: I might be reading into it too much, but it sounds like "women who can deal with your vulnerability aren't that attractive" which is a weird argument. It still sounds like that's what she's saying, except now also trying to cover herself by conflating "attractive" (bailey) with "traditional woman" and "popular" to RPers allegedly (motte), which is also a weird position to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:37 PM
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Enthusiastic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:28 PM
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You hit the nail on the head on your first take
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:22 PM
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What would you say is the baseline emotionality of your husband? My guess is that he's generally emotionally stable and the moments of vulnerability feel special ---> intimacy ----> sex. Two things that stand out being that 1. There is already a connection there that you would like to deepen, and 2. his emotionality is revealed in small doses or that aren't overwhelming, inconvenient or something that you have to tolerate/deal with. More chinks in the armor rather than full-blown weakness. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:16 PM
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I tried to do the usual comfort methods I know but it wasn’t enough for him and I felt he was demanding something from me that I just didn’t have. What he was probably demanding from you was some sure sign that his vulnerability didn't make him less of a man in your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:57 PM
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Because male emotionality is less acceptable in general outside of contentment. Outside of that, the expectation is that nobody should be burdened with handling a man's inconvenient emotions and everybody knows it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/24 09:41 PM
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I think framing this as some kind of recompense for oppression is off the mark and doesn't logically follow from many things you observe. Rather than society artificially "making men's lives harder" it's instead that men are biologically in the best position to contribute the most resources to society while costing society the least, compared to women, children, and the elderly. In other words, men are the most useful, but also the most disposable. What society used to do is make men's lives art…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/24 05:53 PM
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The truth is that a very high percentage of men will do something in their life that takes advantage of their superior power to try to force a woman to engage with their male sexuality in some way that gives him a thrill but not her. That isn't true at all, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:59 PM
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That's an admirable attitude to have, "I got to apologize" as if it's something to look forward to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:15 AM
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Honestly, Disney really doesn't have too bad of a track record with positive male figures and even deconstructions/challenges to male gender norms. For example, you mentioned Aladdin, which at it's core speaks to the attempt (particularly by men) to appear to be something they aren't specifically to attract a woman. A similar motif of masking presented with Flynn/Eugene in Tangled. The Lion King and Tarzan exemplify taking responsibility and rising to meet challenges. Wreck-it-Ralph, Hercules, a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 08:00 AM
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I have hit rock bottom. You're only 21. Part of growing up is finding out that rock bottom is a lot lower than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 07:20 AM
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Can you read? I don't think it's reasonable to claim that noticing red flags are about avoiding drug dealers and convicts when the red flags are actually about avoiding weak, boring and socially awkward men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:09 PM
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That's not relevant to what you asked for. There are female users here that claim women are the more empathetic gender, as requested, QED, wham, bam, thank you Ma'am.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:07 PM
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Search the sub for "empathy" and you can find examples from female users claiming such here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:54 PM
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In order for that to work properly, the red flags have to be focused on features common to drug dealers and convicts. As it stands, the red flags that women notice are instead usually about things that make men seem weak, boring, and socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:53 PM
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They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:49 PM
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"Efficient cock, bro" 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:56 AM
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Lol he even checked the "go rock climbing" box.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:37 PM
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It does. Just like female privilege exists. In theory. In practice, in modern Western society, it gets difficult to separate such privileges from corresponding drawbacks/privileges for the other gender. Gynocentrism and its political expression (i.e. feminism) has arguably weighted any/all unilateral privileges towards women in the modern day, notably without any major counterpart arguing for men as a counterbalance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/23 11:10 AM
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The major component of my politics boils down to "down with the corporate duopoly" style leftism, but I admit that I don't really buy the not-uncommon argument that the Male Loneliness Epidemic is a direct result of capitalism. At this point, capitalism is a couple of centuries old, and that includes the unregulated, industrialized, globalized, slave-taking, pillaging, indigenous population suppressing kind. But the current "crisis of Masculinity" to include the loneliness epidemic, suicide gap,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/23 09:59 AM
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Gen Alpha is gonna make you feel so old one day lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:48 PM
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Nah Will just weak af. We should have known when he wouldn't cuss in his rap to sell records.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:43 PM
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Pickleball
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:40 PM
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D. Other: Flattered by the interest. Understand why she wants to cut ties I've actually had this exact scenario happen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:04 PM
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Don't get mad. Get even.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:15 PM
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that time period i.e. 2006 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:11 PM
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The ones that get mad wouldn’t fuck couldn't lock down a fucboi
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:39 PM
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? We regularly argue about women being attracted to bad men. If anything, the hot take on this sub is acknowledging that women can ever be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:35 PM
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It's a shit test. You pass the test by being ballsy enough to take the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:26 PM
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Target acquired
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:22 PM
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Q4A: Is there anyone here you regularly disagree with that you would miss if they quit PPD/got permabanned?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:29 AM
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Same energy as "poor people are just jealous of the rich"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:16 AM
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Feminism is the political manifestation of women's hatred for non-apex men.
/r/MensRights27/12/23 12:05 AM
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because why should we be socialists towards people who are not socialists towards us? I heavily doubt women would be more open to sharing their bodies with the community just because they are treated with socialist policies in other areas. Case in point: explain how socialism/communities require viewing women's wombs as community? If the premise is "to each according to his need, from each according to his ability" I don't see why sex should be any different than sacrificing your body to the col…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:57 PM
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It seems clear that a high heterosexual pairing rate in longterm, stable relationships is better for everyone. Don't think everyone agrees with that, considering what that might cost them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:27 PM
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funny bc the people that push hyper individualism (conservatives) also think people who don't like hyper individualism and want communities where people care for each other are selfish. I think boiling that behavior down to "conservatives" is part of the problem. As seen in this sub, women who are normally pro-collectivism become hyperindividualist, bootstraps-loving, free-market capitalists when it comes to the dating market. Where you sit on the spectrum of collectivism/individualism probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:09 PM
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That's a lot of assumptions that you're making about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:50 PM
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Why bother making the point if you are unwilling to explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:45 PM
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Take me through the steps in your logic then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:41 PM
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Based upon what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:28 PM
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Imagine thinking that no matter how good of a lover you are and how expertly you pleasure a woman, a guy with a few additional inches to him will always effortlessly outclass you by the sheer virtue of his huge cock. So you understand it perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:22 PM
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The fact that she has kids in a economy with limited avenues for women forced her to value practicality over how she felt. I don't think that's true either, and the insinuation that she was just in it for the money (Granddad was a mailman ffs lol) is more insulting than the idea that sometimes people (even WOMEN, gasp) just make mistakes, especially when they're young and hormonal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:08 AM
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Fuccboi, but loved with her and cheated on her? Pretty much, yeah. She got married to the smooth guy who liked to party. He never stopped partying. Doesn't sound like that has anything to do with your "grandad" being physically weak or unmasculine or unattractive. Sounds like your grandma probably had a bit of a slow time warming up after she was cheated on by someone she thought was good. Don't know what to tell you. I'm not putting words into her mouth. The story that she gave me was that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:55 AM
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Versace Eros is tricky to get the right dose, IMO. The right amount smells like the perfect shade of purple, but too much goes into "Sex Panther" territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:11 AM
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She's feeding your masculine urge to explain things, subconsciously stroking your ego. She loves you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:07 AM
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Enjoy your pumpkin spice with pride, Queen
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:51 AM
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Yup. My grandmother did the whole AF/BB almost like it was scripted. My bio-grandfather was the good-for-nothing, but smooth and charming fuccboi, that got caught cheating on her because he came home with an STD. She divorced, becoming a single mother with my father and then eventually met my "grandad" at a party, who she admits she thought he was kinda lame at first. But he was devoted, stable, and hardworking, so she went on to marry him and eventually really came to love the guy, which is why…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:42 AM
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Regardless of what you do, women won't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:25 AM
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Sure, let's come up with more reasons to feel oppressed. Why stop now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:02 AM
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tl;dr Stop worrying about female evaluation mechanics. Be yourself and let women exercise their godgiven right to test and evaluate men. Accept the judgment gracefully and try to find a woman who, when she finds out who you truly are, is attracted to him. In other words, if you never get to find love/companionship/procreate, lol, sucks to suck, just accept it. This is why if women were in charge we'd still be living in mud huts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:40 PM
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God-Umma
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:30 PM
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Reminder that he probably sees you as his servant and would eat you if he had to lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:29 PM
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The binders full of cards lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:27 PM
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Yeah I'm 36. Tbf the old ones were reruns on Cartoon Network at odd times of the day/night. But yeah Princess Mononoke came out when I was like 10 and that's when I started to connect the dots to stuff like Sailor Moon and DragonBall Z
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:14 PM
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My first was probably reruns of Voltron, Speed Racer, and Gatchaman. Princess Mononoke was the first anime that I realized was something different than just regular (Western) cartoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:05 PM
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Ayyy welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:10 AM
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They are bigoted about age. Lol but not about dating bisexuality. Like how women are. Which was the topic of conversation. Lol just take the L. It's going to be okay. Women can be flawed in ways men aren't and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:31 AM
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Does it? Sounds like a baseless assumption that one's primary reason for supporting someone is also the only reason. And that's still better than bigotry. Lmao. Just take the L and perhaps hold your fellow women to higher standards, instead of excusing toxic attitudes out of gender solidarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:18 AM
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Wanting to have threesomes is still being a “bigot”. Your position is that people who want to have threesomes are bigots?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:33 PM
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I just want a girl to command me to eat her out while she relaxes and possibly is strong enough to pick me up. Is that so much to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:05 PM
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Although, a lot of this is borrowed from feminism, I hope for the sake of my perception of this space that this isn’t an issue. I'm skeptical that there is enough similarity between the current states of feminism and men's advocacy to assume that they can "borrow" things from one another. Case in point: Misogyny is already taken seriously in society while misandry is barely acknowledged to exist and often is seen as a good or deserved thing. We are not really fighting the same battle here, and a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/23 03:59 PM
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Still beats being actively bigoted on the issue like a lot of women so... 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:02 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@travque/video/7221908167049891114
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:05 PM
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This is something I keep pointing out “the RP-dark pill” have been around for 10 years but the key demographic of the pills always stays men 18-25” “Dudes get laid and abandon this “PILL” mentality. IDK if that follows. Imagine, for a second, that the pill mentality actually works. Then what would happen is dudes get laid and simply have no more reason to keep strategizing about how to get laid online, because they've won. Doesn't mean that they have "abandoned" the pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:30 AM
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Nah that's woman braining it. Men don't preselect like that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:25 AM
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The women are way more likely to have a roster of orbiters, not a rotation of guys she's fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:12 PM
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I'm 5'8" and earn 60k so there is no downside to option 1 for me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:53 PM
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It's the costuming, makeup, and writing. They could do her up like a drunk party girl and she could pass for mid 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:52 PM
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Hell yes. Can't wait for summer again
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:43 PM
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I don't think that there is much thought given to what men like in general, which speaks to a wider misconception about male sexuality that boils it all down to "any sexual contact is good." A lot of the depictions of actresses "servicing" men seem to be much more of a statement of how horny/how much of a whore she is rather than how good it feels for him. On the other hand, there are definitely depictions of acts (even or especially rough sex) that seem to hinge on the fantasy of knowing what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:57 PM
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I could probably write a whole thesis about this, but the short of it is: For the majority of Western, mainstream porn without an explicit noncon kink, the entire production centers on the depiction of (not necessarily realistic) female pleasure because watching women get off is what gets the male audience off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:43 PM
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why aren't men doing this instead of becoming or worshiping Tate? My theory: Because there is no "healthier" way to address the challenges outside of basically just doing what Tate/RP/PUAs/Manosphere says to do, except not making it an ideology. That's the fundamental reason why Blue Pill shit doesn't work for men that are really struggling, even when they try to sanitize Red Pill points and make it more "woman friendly" a la Dr. Nerdlove, Mark Manson, menslib et al. There's just some uncomforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:47 AM
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yet male pleasure is reliably connected to the male actually being pleasured It's not, though. Neither the pleasure of the male actors nor the female actresses are prioritized on a porn set. In both cases, aesthetics of the scene are of primary concern. And we've agreed that the male interest is centered around a vision of female pleasure. Even if this is a just vicarious ego investment for the male audience, it still is a consideration of (alleged) female physical pleasure. Male physical pleasu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:38 AM
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if it was, it would be realistic Doubt. Porn isn't documentary. It's going to look entertaining first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:51 PM
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ts about male pleasure of the viewer hearing female moaning/feeling like a man for pleasing her In other words, the idea of female pleasure is central to the entire fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:34 PM
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This is true, yes. And his ego is based upon his apparent ability to please her. His actual pleasure is barely in consideration and never the focus. Contrastingly, in female-targeted media, his female targeted media his pleasure is still barely considered since those stories seem to assume (accurately, I wager) that female audiences don't derive similar ego boosts from how well they service men. So in both cases, not about male pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:27 PM
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But are they wrong though? I feel like there's this argument-terminating device, whereby referring to these arguments as "abandonment issues" implies that they are untrue or irrational. Except they're not, and I feel like here's where bluepill specifically (and the political left) kind of fucks up and cedes ground unnecessarily. What if you don't pretend that men are just imagining shit and instead really address the challenge in a way that doesn't leave a vacuum wide open for the Tates of the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:14 PM
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From a practical female perspective, sure. But one of the oldest and most common porn tropes is that there is a lot exaggerated moaning. The "acting" portion of it seems to heavily suggest that that the actress is supposed to be enjoying it. How believable she is is another discussion. All the over-the-top "YES! YESSS FUCK ME, FUCK ME HARDERRR I'M CUMMMINGGGG" isn't for nothing. Take a look at Japanese porn if you want to see what it's like when the actress is supposed to look like she ISN'T enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:55 PM
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In both, others are gushing over the person who's meant to be the self insert for the viewer. I don't think so. Porn actresses will maybe gush a little about how big a cock is, but most mainstream porn seems to more be about (the apperance of) female pleasure. The idea that porn is generally a self insert for the audience to the same level of romance/erotica doesn't really hold up, IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:11 PM
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"Chad Harems" are usually talking about having a number of women on rotation instead of open polygamy. Still counts as monopolizing women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:59 PM
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Why aren’t the ladies crying about Stacy all the time They aren't? "She wears short skirts, I wear T-shirts, She's cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers Dreaming 'bout the day when you wake up and find That what you're looking for has been here the whole time"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:54 PM
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Absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:47 PM
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I don't even remember the last time someone gave me money that wasn't a paycheck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:46 PM
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It would help if I knew how Instagram actually works, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:33 AM
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Nah ya gotta like em to build up your spank bank. Cum back later
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:32 AM
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Can I hire you to be my new inner monologue? I think mine is broken
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:09 PM
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They shouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:59 PM
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Also: The lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner was: For women: - Lesbian - 43.8% with the majority of those (67.4%) reported having only female perpetrators. So point #1 refuting your comment that "its that study that asked lesbians if they've ever been abused (by someone of any gender)" it doesn't sound like lesbian women are the problem? A reminder that no one is claiming lesbian women are "the problem" but rather that female-female relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:16 PM
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This is the study from the CDC. It specifies by gender of perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:14 PM
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Lesbians!!! Divorce and Domestic Violence Rates!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:18 PM
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Replied to the wrong person? None of that has anything to do with what I've said
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:01 PM
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People use the "real man" carrot/stick to control men regularly for all kinds of reasons. This is a tactic probably every man is familiar with "Just don't care, bro" isn't an actual solution, especially coming from someone who isn't in any danger of having this type of shaming used against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:39 PM
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It's not "following orders." It's avoiding negative consequences, some of which are not faced by women at the same level of severity that are faced by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:33 PM
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It may sound cold and depressing but I've long ago realized that the other side will never show the same level of empathy, compassion and dedication to solving our issues as they demand us to have for solving theirs. This is exactly it. There's a lot of cultural messaging, probably founded somewhere in our biology and gleefully exacerbated by feminism, that leads us to believe that women are the more compassionate, more empathetic to the other gender. That men are the oppressive, self-serving br…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/23 11:01 PM
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I'm 5'8" and wish I was either 6'3" or like 5'6". 6'3" is attractive to most women and 5'6" gets you access to role reversal vibes with the taller ladies (pick me up, mommy :3) 5'8" is just kinda "short, for a guy."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:41 PM
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Always flexing those innuendo skills :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:55 PM
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Something doesn't have to have a competition involved to be something you can get good at. It has to have some sort of challenge involved. Any challenge that is worth anything can be compared to other people i.e. competition by default. I'm ashamed of how good I am at Sims 4 How does one get "good" at the Sims 4? In terms of the gameplay, keeping your Sims alive and healthy is not difficult and there isn't really any score to compare how "good" at it you are. Being "good" in terms of creating cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:52 PM
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Except some have more uses than others. Except "how useful it is" has never (dis)qualified anything that takes skill from being impressive. Rubik's cubes, painting, chess, dollhouse making, needlepoint etc. Even the things that are "practical" usually are valued at a high level for how unpractical they are e.g. haute couture, gourmet dining, several types of high art. Instead, it comes down to "how hard it is." For videogames, the things that are targeted at guys tend to be competitive and legit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:39 PM
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Fair to say that it isn't something you care about, but being skilled at games is similar to being skilled at anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:17 PM
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Tbf The Sims isn't something you get "good at." The competitive stuff is mostly in games marketed toward guys anyways and does, in fact, take a bit of skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:16 PM
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Nope. A extreme minority of people will get lucky and settle into healthy relationships. A slim majority will be in and out of relationships with unbalanced power dynamics and a large minority of people will be perpetually single/in situationships
/r/MensRights18/12/23 06:33 PM
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Can we dispense with the idea that women are always "manipulated" into these abusive relationships instead of just accepting that women are human and, as such, 1. are not psychic, 2. make mistakes often and 3. usually think with thier genitals more than anything else? Like, there's always this mythology that goes along with how women select partners that assigns some sort of superhuman ability on the part of women or on the part of the men they regret. Women can magically "sense the misogyny" of…
/r/MensRights18/12/23 03:27 PM
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Patriarchy is female hypergamy made social policy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/23 02:35 AM
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Men are just able to hurt women a lot more than women can hurt men, and in reality men hurt women over romantic rejection is a lot more severe of a problem than women hurting men over romantic rejection. Why are we limiting the definition of "hurt" to physical stuff only?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:37 PM
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The girl in the tiktok video is hot imo. That flex tho. Capable, strong and badass women are attractive to me, as long as they don't have some kind of chip on their shoulder about rubbing men's faces in it e.g. "Boss Bitches" But women that are tough but also pretty and kind? Swoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:23 AM
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tfw mom picks up the phone right before the download completes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:11 PM
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Oh, you don't say... In other news, water is wet. More at 10
/r/MensRights15/12/23 05:10 PM
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rent out a slave plantation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:07 PM
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Specifically the political left was forced to abandon it's female supremacist bigotry (or face voting booth anihilation): No they haven't. They've just pivoted to getting men on board with the female supremacist bigotry a la menslib.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 10:31 PM
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You’ll get better sleep at night and, ironically, understand more once you realize there’s a lot about people that isn’t for you to understand. Maybe even the quality of debate will improve once you stop trying to find conclusions and settle for acceptance of no conclusion. I agreed with the title, but not with this. The problem isn't that people are infinitely unknowable. The problem is that people (women especially) refuse to recognize/admit how things really are, and THIS is the thing that gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:11 PM
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How we do this is simple; recognize and expose high status males for what they are, greedy pigs that ruin and bodies/minds of our future potential partners. And why would they give a fuck what a bunch of men that struggle to get laid think?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:04 PM
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So is there something bad about men specifically sexually objectifying others? Sorry for the questions, I'm just trying to get precise on why you'd rather your father be sexually objectified rather than your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:48 PM
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So there's something worse about sexually objectifying a woman, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:24 PM
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So would you rather hear your mother described as a walking fleshlight or a greedy rich asshole? Father as greedy rich asshole. Would you rather your mother be described as a walking fleshlight or your father as a walking dildo?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:09 PM
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I feel like you already know this, but you're illustrating a problem with polarity, not subject: "Walking fleshlight" is more to "greedy, rich asshole" as "really hot lady" is more to "really rich dude." There are probably better apples-to-apples comparisons to illustrate your point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:54 PM
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natural cosmetics ngl sounds like that is going to involve some kind of dung and/or guano
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:17 PM
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I've been crushing on Mary Elizabeth Winstead for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:14 PM
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I don't think women would care if they were seen as success objects Female arrogance and a lack of understanding of true failure without a safety net. romantic objects. They do, infact, dislike this. They just conflate it with being treated as a sex object, because making it about sex is more demonizing to men. There's something uniquely dehumanizing and gross about being seen as a walking pussy Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:12 PM
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Seems like we need a substitute lilith. RPers just pining after her lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:27 PM
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Realizing I didn't see if she swallowed like
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:38 PM
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THIS IS NOT A DRILL! REPEAT: THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:35 PM
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The victim blaming lmao. If you're not Batman prepared just don't deal with women. "Should have anticipated that she would try to steal your sperm out of the condom, idiot."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:16 PM
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lol anybody seen this company that encourages spermjacking with it's product? https://twitter.com/MakeAmom/status/1733348656097669307
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:04 PM
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Broooo this sounds dope but I can't suggest it to any girl I'm dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:08 PM
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I did that for a Halloween Party once and it earned me a beej
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:33 AM
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Get into a knife fight with a hot Kyrptonian
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:30 AM
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My isolation clown has grown fat and eaten the community one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:20 AM
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Women trading sexual selectivity for security
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:09 PM
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but that would be very boring It's not boring. The thrill of discovery, cracking the code, that feeling of Eureka is exhilirating! no matter how much you study, analyze, try to understand, try to create and define rules, you never will. you'll never be in a scenario where you know without a doubt in your mind your efforts are 100% going to succeed, the fear and scariness is a part of it. it's what makes the success mean that much more. there are no rules. And this is where I think there's a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:50 PM
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More guys need to understand, men are the ones that really hold the power. Most men are hold no power whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:19 PM
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Manson Blue pilled af
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:42 PM
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Don't blame you, always puts a spring in my step. I'd definitley be a thirst trap if I were female
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:38 PM
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Or maybe you'll get catfished
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:38 PM
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IKR?? Just how like a lot of people who have never set foot in Israel/Palestine, and aren't related to or even knows anyone who has, having strong opinions about what's going on over there... <sup>this is sarcasm. People are allowed to be concerned about things that they aren't directly going through at the moment.</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:50 PM
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white trash mud girl is kinda dope tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:44 PM
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I think it's that individual standards exist, but few to no standards that are wide enough to use as a generalization for where men draw the line. Maybe overweight women, but even then. Hence why the number of male incels far outstrips the number of femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:10 PM
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No courage or brain. Or dope shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:17 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't say feminists lie only because of money. A lot of it is hatred, too.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 01:46 PM
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First
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:03 AM
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A lot actually. Never like horror or being murdered or anything, but more like fucking my life up somehow, like when I'm asleep is when my mind gets to indulge in anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:46 AM
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Aww Yiss. On this day we are all Florida Man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:21 PM
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"You might be a whore and the mother of a bastard child." That is what a woman will likely hear when her spouse asks for a paternity test. What does a man hear if a woman says "You're not the best man I've ever had sex with but-" blah blah something about how nice he is. Both are immature and emotionally driven desires for your partner to protect your ego, but only one of them is asking both your partner and child to sacrifice certain knowledge of their biological relationship to one another (wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:44 PM
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What exactly about getting married to someone gives you telepathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:07 PM
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It is sensible and reasonable to mistrust people you don't know Ceasar knew and loved Brutus like a son. That mf still stabbed him in the back tho. Trust doesn't actually mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:02 PM
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Why on earth are you people treating keeping secrets from your spouse as some kind of revolutionary concept. Why are women so adamant about 100% unquestioned trust being the lynchpin of relationships? People can be idealists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:55 PM
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Classic feminine tactic. "When it's your fault, it's your fault. When it's my fault it's our fault."
/r/MensRights04/12/23 07:41 PM
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I think more engagement with women that are already bought into the idea would help to explore women on the fence's positions, and ultimately women that are vehemently against the idea. Engagement with the women that are bought into the idea only reveals my original point: that most women will never empathize. Because even those women share the same issue as the stonewalling women, namely, the opinion that mothers feeling accused is a more important issue than children and fathers knowing that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:10 PM
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dude if you dont have the confidence that your girl wont go off fucking some other guy behind your back, then wtf are you doing being with her? Paternity testing doesn't prove that she isn't. Only that the child is actually mine
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:51 AM
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Trusting people doesn't prevent them from lying to you. Source: everyone that got betrayed ever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:38 AM
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Paternity testing is an issue (probably not the only one) that women are never going to empathize with men over. Just have to swallow that one, fellas. May as well quit arguing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:23 AM
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Never going to happen. Hard pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:22 AM
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I'll do you one better. I think that we'll reach the breaking point, and society STILL won't hold feminists to account. Like, the best we're going to get is some allusion that society has been underserving men for some mysterious unknown reason, but we're never going to get to a place of either denouncing feminism or calls for women to check their privelige/be better etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 05:57 AM
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Racial equity has always been a democratic movement, including racial discrimination by the police. THat's a pretty broad thing. BLM definitely reflected a shift in general dem sensibilities towards a more woke agenda than the previous stance, which was more MLK-style colorblindness, and I'm a bit baffled how you think it didn't with the rise of people like Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo in the zeitgeist of core blue Middle/Upper Middle class American life. They sell BLM and intersectional sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:01 PM
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The Dems are now learning this... They thought the new young generation was all very "woke" and this is the new sentiment. They were wrong. They were VERY wrong by trying to ride that wave, and it cost them dearly. Were they? The largest mass protest in American history was woke, and surpassed that record held by yet ANOTHER woke protest only a few years prior. It would suggest that there may have been something to the idea that the population has an appetite for woke politics. And through it al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:42 PM
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Attraction cannot be negotiated and neither can empathy. Attraction, fine. But empathy damn well should be negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:15 PM
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She is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:23 PM
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That sounds just like feminists telling lonely men they should just be gay. It's not a choice.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 02:38 PM
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The thing about patriarchy is that it isn't MEN with power...it's PATRIARCHS. Places in the Middle East are commonly harem cultures where men who aren't patriarchs also get the shitty end of the stick. In western cultures, patriarchy usually involved monogamy and investing in men to train them to be patriarchs so that they could protect and provide for thier women/families. Certainly wasn't all sunshine and rainbows, but on balance, it may have been a lot more stable than the toxic gender landsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:13 AM
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More women would support patriarchy if men used it to support and protect women Arguably, that's always what patriarchy was about except, like children, in order for women to be well protected/supported, their freedom had to be limited. Women eventually decided that they didn't like that, so here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:55 AM
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Because deep down people understand that the only likely solutions to this problem are either traditionalist or throwing the status of women as perpetually oppressed victims into question, both of which are antithetical to the left as currently configured.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 12:22 AM
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Possibly extinct or a Dark Ages from which humanity would never return. That's not a hypothetical. In 18 BC, the emperor Augustus initiated laws that provided social privileges for marriage and child rearing and penalties for celibacy because the post-civil war population and future growth wouldn't have been enough to maintain the Roman Empire.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:31 PM
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Sorry about your grandmother. With respect, I think that there are a few questionable assumptions being made that you highlight here. Most arranged marriages feature severe age gaps Such relationships were always one-sided and automatically a worse deal for the woman. Arranged marriages are necessarily worse relationships than the alternative. Arranged marriages involved no input from the children (specifically, the daughter) whatsoever. The negative situation in which your grandmother found her…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:11 PM
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I'm much happier now that I can choose my partner, Do you have experience of not being able to choose your partner? Honest question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:30 PM
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For the first time in human history, women are CHOOSING their partners rather than marrying them because they are socially or economically required to do so. One of the interesting things about this argument is that it ignores that there are two people in a marriage in order to focus on how women are victims. Like, in most cases, BOTH partners would have been constrained in their mate choices by family/society. Children of either gender were "traded like cattle," to use feminist parlance. And gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:05 PM
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but I'm just left wondering what kind of porn have they been watching. Yeah, there are some some cases but in my experience it's very far from the vast majority. Porn-negative folks (especially feminists and women) also tell on themselves when they complain about porn being degrading, misogynistic, and rapey. There are specific genres of porn that heavily feature female degradation and noncon elements as kinks, but it's far from any kind of universal industry standard. And guess which genres of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 05:39 PM
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Ngl I'd rather eat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:07 AM
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And God wants us to be happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:05 AM
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Dat booty does make a compelling argument
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:04 AM
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You're right 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:36 AM
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How do interns figure into the "don't shit where you eat" rule at work? One of the co-ops is giving me eyes and I noticed she has a booty for the first time at a work party today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:03 AM
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Phallusy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:00 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:57 AM
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One reason is lack of professional qualifications There are a lot of unemployed underemployed fuccbois that women complain about. This isn't the answer. The second reason is demonizing of masculinity (misandry). Men hear phrases like toxic masculinity and that affects their mind. It lowers their confidence and self-esteem. While this can be a factor, I doubt it applies in a blanket way to all incels, since shyness and a lack of confidence is a common problem in dating. Let me offer an alternativ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 01:44 AM
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For example, one of the complaints about porn is that it promotes unhealthy standards of beauty. Except that porn is the one media industry that features performers of literally every shape, skin color, nationality, culture, age group, sexual orientation, gender and even several disabilities. Because of the enormous spectrum of sexual interests, if you can think of it, there is porn of it. No exceptions. Meanwhile, mainstream media such as Hollywood, television, modeling and the fashion industry…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 12:46 AM
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Crazy thing about porn is that, for every negative point lobbed against it, it actually comes out surprisingly rosy and even positive compared to probably every other form of popular media when you really think about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/23 11:14 PM
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Because men are only socially allowed a binary (and permanent) lens of sexuality. There is no room for exploring the spectrum of sexual orientation at all aside from the poles of heterosexuality and homosexuality. In practice, anything, including unrealized thoughts and fantasies, outside of strict heterosexuality in men is treated as irrevocably 100% gay by both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:49 PM
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I love that you're bringing this energy to the mod team
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:42 PM
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Facts. I was just remembering how working retail on Black Friday used to feel like literal trench warfare. Meanwhile, my corporate job expects everyone in the office to just take an unofficial long weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:29 PM
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Strategic use of "some" for the more widespread orientation and "many" for the outlier case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:10 PM
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Did you actually watch the South Park special? Kathleen Kennedy is portrayed sympathetically and complaining about wokism in the media is mocked as just as bad. Mindy's Scooby-Doo reboot was lampooned for being unfunny and hostile to its audience, not simply for being woke. The fact that Mindy herself was called out for a "woke" reason (i.e. sexual harassment) is further evidence that there wasn't some kind of rebuke of wokism as a concept outside of the manosphere-adjacent corners of the intern…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:10 PM
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OK, you show me proof that most people are SJW‘s You're moving the goalposts. You, in your previous post: Most people hate SJWs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:16 PM
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1/4 of the USA just banned abortion and multiple states are banning kids from participating in LGBT events. Most people hate SJWs. Math.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:58 AM
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Who do you think experiences the worse social effects of that perspective, male sluts or female sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:02 AM
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many women are demisexual in nature While this may be true of some women, many women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:50 PM
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Keep going. You're almost there...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:22 PM
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Women are open to dating for potential moreso than men because men take more time to "cook." The flipside is that men are pretty easy to please, so most women don't need to have potential to score a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:11 PM
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Women enjoy being seen as sex objects, though, just by the men they want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:05 PM
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3/4 but now I wanna name my next pet Kyle or smth
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:59 PM
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Depends on the location. I wasn't aware we were focusing this discussion on Saudi Arabia. I assumed we were referencing the western world/1st world culture like in every other thread in sub. Do you normally just let rich people’s propaganda shape your world view? Obviously not if I'm pushing back on the gynocentric and feminist narrative of gender. But this question is irrelevant to the counterpoint I was making. To paraphrase... You: "I still don’t understand how guys can sit there, watch how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:24 PM
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Women's preference is more rational (income, personality, intelligence etc) while men's preference is superficial and shallow. (looks) Women's preferences are just as shallow as men's are, just over a wider range, and almost contrary to the types of relationships they claim to want. If your goal is love, commitment and a LTR, it's not "rational" to ignore the vast majority of available mates in favor of clustering around a select few with immutable, high-value (but also shallow and counterproduc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:41 PM
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Only if they have the elites backing them. Quoting myself for emphasis: the government, all of higher education, the media, Hollywood and the biggest businesses in the world regularly kowtowing to SJW sensibilites and priorities and tripping overthemselves to validate thier victimhood narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:19 PM
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From my perspective and likely many others, you don’t deserve respect for having this attitude. Not because of your actions, but because you’re so desperate that you’ll sleep with just anybody. i.e. the exact premise behind slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:16 PM
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Men, by and large, do not seem to be so suspicious about paternity - or do you think they simply don’t speak up about it because they know the reaction they’ll get? I think that a people's risk assessment is more often a result of socialization than the actual risk presented is much less of a factor. e.g. Women are more afraid of male agression and violence, but men are actually more at risk of becoming victims of male violence and aggression. A lot of that is due to the way we socialize people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:58 PM
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Being happily single is an option and clearly these guys prefer the bad option Being single is an option. Being happily so is not. Whenever people suggest to a guy who is struggling with women to improve himself to get better options, excuses come in, the advice is criticized, and labelled ‘toxic’. Bootstraps rhetoric is always a weak solution to apply in a blanket fashion to unfortunate people. “Low value” vs Low value Different standards of value apply to the differnt genders because of gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:44 PM
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But expecting women to be just fine with having to prove they were not pregnant by another man is asking a lot. It's also asking a lot to expect men to either not care or accept on blind faith that the children they are investing in are actually theirs, when there is an easy and availible way of giving men that peace of mind. As I’ve said - if it’s medically and socially normalised for paternity to be confirmed, then it takes all of the accusation out of it. I agree that this is something that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:18 PM
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Like you missed out because you struggled during social events because you didn't drink? Yes. Or I entirely avoided social events that were heavily alcohol fuelled, such as college parties, nightclubs and barcrawls. On the other hand you might have developed social skills while sober that you wouldn't have otherwise while drunk No. Without the drink, I was too inhibited to take the necessary risks to build many social skills. Besides, being drunk only lasts for a couple of hours. Any social skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:10 PM
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Expecting most women who have had children with a man to have no problem being accused of lying and cheating is asking a lot. Even though some of those women are liars and cheaters, it’s making them all out to be guilty until proven innocent and that seems an unfair position to take. The thing is, a paternity test doesn't prove she isn't cheating. It proves that the child is his. The offense at mistrust and being accused of infidelity is really a logistical side issue to the actual point of pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:47 PM
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the theory isn't that men are responsible as in right now, but since it was men leading countries during their (for the lack of a better term) "formative" years, and many of those archaic rules still exist (such as the UK rape laws), it was indeed set by men. In order to villify men in general, ignoring both the informal, and specifically social, power and influence that women have always wielded and that the (vanishingly small) minority of men who were in positions of formal power very often we…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 04:27 PM
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Honestly, you should probably tell him to stop
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:01 PM
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Alcohol is a means of coping with anxiety/poor social skills Took me too long to figure this out. Missed out on/struggled through a lot of social opportunities unnecessarily because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:46 PM
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Men being settled for in relationships and starfish fucked in exchange for utility doesn't mean women aren't attracted to problematic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:24 PM
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Men being settled for in relationships and starfish fucked in exchange for utility doesn't mean women aren't attracted to problematic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:21 PM
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Amber Midthunder as Sacagawea if you age her up a little. (Which you should, because real history has a lot of paedophilia and child slavery)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:09 PM
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Or maybe your social circle is the outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:35 PM
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Probably would be an HBO Series or something nowadays. Also would definitely watch!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:38 PM
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Just World Fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:36 PM
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Graphs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:12 PM
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Why not move on and search for women who don't want to date losers? Exceedingly rare
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:03 PM
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Eh. Could have been a lot worse
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:06 PM
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Which would be an even a worse justification for dehumanising people. "oh no, ugly jarod might like me" doesn't seem like a valid reason to limit all human kindness and empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:10 PM
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As in, the other poster is suggesting that simply being around undesirable men is "unsafe" because they may develop feelings for her. But nobody is entitled to police other people's sexual/romantic interest in them. Nobody can reasonably expect to only recieve romantic interest from people that they are attracted to in turn. Suggesting that undesirable men daring to have interest in women as some kind of dangerous threat is part-and-parcel of the kind of dehumanisation of unattractive men that u…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:00 PM
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Women all learn from a young age being friendly to a guy invites him to believe he can try to date or have sex with you. We all learn it’s not safe to be friendly unless this is someone in our core group. Mask-off statement. Part of the problem here is the wierdly hostile view that a man that you aren't maximally attracted to wanting to have sex with you is "unsafe." The idea that people are entitled to only deal romantically with people at the very top of their attraction scales isn't the way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:18 PM
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My mother died when I was young. A lot of my dysfunction flows directly from that. For my surrogate mother (my grandmother) it went/goes like this: Are or were you close with her (talk to her about your life, your problems, did activities together)? No. How much menial labor did your mother perform for you past the age at which you needed her to do it (cooking, cleaning, laundry, driving, shopping chores, etc.). Obviously I'm not talking about a mother feeding her 2 year old. Minimal. Cooking mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:17 PM
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there's a good woman every few years when you're trying to be good. And here is the main point of contention. A lot of lonely people's experiences tell them otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:44 AM
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Agreed, which is why it's prudent to understand that there's reality is much more gray than the black and white narrative that liberal = content with the state of modern dating; conservative = struggling with dating and redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:48 PM
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But the reality is young conservative men are on the manosphere conplaining they can't get dates. How many liberal arts students have you seen on the manosphere? They are not struggling with dating. That young liberal men don't complain doesn't mean they aren't struggling. Rather, they understand that to voice any frustration with their dating lives is social suicide, so they keep their mouths shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:53 PM
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There are a lot of women in their 20s that have below average SMV, and not every 50 y/o man looks like the cryptkeeper. Besides the fact that women have a higher SMV than men in general, there's a lot of holes in that theory. And I'm not sure why you expect young women with barley any life experience to have a high RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:08 AM
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Then explain how I am wrong. Let's agree on the definition of hypergamy first. What do you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:00 AM
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Why do men get so defensive when you call them out for their Hypergamy? Probably because you're wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 11:57 PM
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Yep, it's called getting old. Pretty soon you'll be liking stuff you thought was gross as kid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:01 PM
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No, it isn't. They're not magical "stop caring" pills. As someone currently on antidepressants, I disagree...magic "stop caring pills" is mostly accurate for me. I noticeably stopped getting so wound up about things that made me anxious/catastophically upset prior to taking my meds and my emotional stability is much more improved even in really difficult situations that would have reduced me to a puddle of nerves previously. But neither pills or therapy can make your loneliness, or your brokenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:16 PM
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No way. Step 1 as a man is to not get yourself into dire terms, or if you do, have your life together that you're not making the woman you brought into your life suffer. Or you know, don't date and marry if you don't have your shit together. In a nutshell, "don't be vulnerable."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:28 PM
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There's bropill, there's menslib--those are good places. defining "good places" as "deferent to feminism"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:21 PM
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I'm excited to test out your flair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:56 AM
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That's not close enough. I wish women would just ask
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:35 AM
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Yes, but this isn't my CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:52 PM
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In the end, kindness and goodness are not sexually arousing qualities for either gender. I disagree with this kind of blank-slatist view of how attraction works between the genders. Kindness and goodness are not all that relevant for sexual arousal for men. But in my experience, kindness and goodness ARE, in fact, relevant for sexual arousal for women, though. It's just in the counterintuitive direction i.e. kindness and goodness are unsexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:45 PM
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Is there any reason that you can see where someone can struggle with dating and it not be thier fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:56 PM
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Part of what's fucked about this whole thing is that, somehow, being weak-willed is less attractive than being actively hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:09 PM
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I think most women overestimate their powers of discernment. Yes. And also this supposedly clear distinction only came about as a result of women being called out for saying/implying one thing but doing another.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:06 PM
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So feminists fight for reproductive rights Oh, but the wailing and gnashing of teeth about paternity testing and paper abortions. maternity/paternity leave Not so much shared custody and family court reform, though. an end to gender based violence Defined exclusively as "male aggressor, female victim" funding for domestic violence shelters Whist literally protesting and making bomb threats to male domestic abuse shelters. an end to patriarchal concepts that conditions men to ignore their mental …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:49 AM
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What do MRAs even fight for? Most of their real issues are a symptom of the patriarchy that impacts men negatively too. Male feminists realize this and seek to dismantle the patriarchy. The feminist conception of the Patriarchy™, how it operates, and the best ways to address its alleged negative effects (if it/they even exist) are highly debatable. So that's the first problem with the "why don't MRAs just become feminists" take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:49 PM
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There are studies that show 74% of statistics are made up on the spot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:42 PM
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Nah theres general studies showing women score higher for emotional intelligence, compassion and agreeableness compared to men Yeah? There's also studies which show that women have a higher in-group gender bias than men do and other studies that show that a lack of benevolent sexism in the workplace(i.e. equality) feels like misogyny to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:06 PM
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If you really think that its your social circle. Some social circles believe the world is flat. Doesn't speak to the prevelance of that idea in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:43 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:16 PM
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That same chick would also call Tyrone a bum or a dog but he's more focused on getting his own needs met; That chick calls Tyrone a bum or a dog after he's fucked her over for the nth time, only to run back to him when he's ready to string her along again. when good guy backs off he bulldozes forward. Maybe stop giving an F what people think or say. So...the advice is to stop giving an F what she thinks or says and bulldoze forward? Sounds like a good way to catch a charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:36 PM
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And they still call you corny and still be down for Tyrone when he's in the mood for an easy, sloppy lay (i.e. That's why they're single mothers lol) Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:18 PM
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Paranoia. If you’re worried about something happening without any reasons to worry, that’s called an irrational fear. The "reason to worry" is that there is a nonzero chance that things could go bad. It's called a precaution. Are you "worrying" when you put a seatbelt on in a vehicle?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:07 PM
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If men don't like particular women's choices, men shouldn't pay any attention to those women. Yet they do, because frustrated men are speaking specifically about women they find attractive. Men's standard of attraction is low, so "women they find attractive" isn't as much of a minority as you're implying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:54 PM
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If you think its possible, why are you dedicating your life to her? It means you don't fully trust her. It's always possible. That's just a fact regardless of whatever trust you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:20 PM
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Women have always been exactly as rude, judgemental and dismissive as men are. Women are arguably more rude, judgemental and dismissive of men than the other way around Because you know full well men don’t give a shit about other men. Or about women. How many male feminists are there? How many female MRAs are there?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:43 PM
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I love that my comments get downvoted the most when I ~~insist on men taking control of their lives and not play the victims.~~ Refuse to acknowledge that it's possible for men to ever have problems without it being 100% their fault. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:22 PM
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I'm not more likely to cheat than a man is so much so that we should have mandated testing of my honor based solely on my gender. But a paternity test doesn't prove you aren't cheating. It only proves that the father is who you say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:53 AM
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women are surrounded by water they can’t WON'T drink. Ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:57 PM
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Vaporized
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:05 AM
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Because she is threatening automatic divorce if he asks for a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:01 AM
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I don't think I could get over such accusations from someone who knows and loves me. So the solution is to destroy the family, and leave the child fatherless, just because people other than you have the gall to also want to know if they are actually related to their other parent/offspring. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:45 AM
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I always wondered how cold those things are. They look cold
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:01 PM
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Just lie, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:49 PM
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When it’s obvious as hell the person was awful. But what if it's not obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:34 PM
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At what point does trust become a failure to vet properly? Let's say a guy is a victim of paternity fraud. What ratio of vetting/trusting would you accept as it not being the man's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:26 PM
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Repeating from your previous thread: So do we show common sense and personal responsibility and vet people thoroughly or do we blindly trust them? Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:31 PM
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Thick crust is like eating fluffy bread with pizza toppings This is a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:26 PM
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This is the best thing you've ever written here 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:45 AM
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People will just make AI porn. You can't stop it. Also was porn ever illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:15 AM
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You're more libertarian than I am, but I would support it being an opt-out procedure instead of opt-in. Have it be part of the standard battery of tests and procedures that go along with having a baby, and as such, give parents the option of declining. Women in this thread are calling for men to deal with the emotional consequences of asking for a paternity test, but I think that is unfairly loading all of the risk in the man. Rather, it's more even handed to have the woman deal with the risk of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:44 AM
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I just don't see any reason why they should be mandated or automatic. Because, Women clearly take it personally if they are asked on an individual basis, and this presents an enormous risk of emotional manipulation. It's probably a good idea for legally binding documents to be verified. It's a better way to ensure that hospitals and other birthing services aren't accidentally switching babies (which can and does happen) rather than just assuming their competence. It's supports a fair and egalita…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:29 AM
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So I'll just mark you down as firmly on the side of "blind trust for women" then. Good to know that the premise of this entire thread is therefore null and void.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:15 PM
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Healthy relationships are built on trust, so yes. Deal with the consequences for not wanting a healthy relationship built on trust. "Have common sense and vet properly." "Blindly trust people" Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:50 PM
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The only reason it's proposed as a social issue and/or government concern is because of the unreasonable way women react to it. Women: "You're accusing me of being a cheating whore!" Men: "Okay let's just make it standard procedure, government mandated, or opt-out then, so it's not personal." Women: "No! Believe all mothers!" You: "Men should use common sense, be responsible, and vet properly, but also take women at thier word with absolutely no hard and readily available evidence"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:37 PM
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So guys here would have children with whores, he just wanna make sure the whore is having his kid. She's her own person, she can be a whore if she wants up to the point where she's trying to defraud a man into taking on the responsibilities of her decision. No. Humanity enforced monogamy so there’s less of a chance of bastard children running around. In what reality of the west in the 21st century is monogamy "enforced?" Where are all the people being criminally charged with adultery? It’s assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:16 PM
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When you have kids with someone you trust you don’t doubt that the kids are yours. An unverified lack of doubt still doesn't mean the kids are actually yours. BE SINGLE. If you can’t trust a woman to not be a whore, then don’t bother. Again, testing doesn't prove she isn't a whore. It proves that the child is his. And so humanity went extinct just because women couldn't stomach the idea that anybody else wanted to know if they are actually related to people that they didn't give birth to/were bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:00 PM
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People don’t need telepathy to not have kids with people they dont trust. Having kids with someone you trust still doesn't mean that the kids are actually yours. What they need: 1. Common sense. 2. Mental stability. 3. Self-control as to not have unprotected sex with anyone that offers. What is a foolproof way of vetting someone that doesn't boil down to either blind trust or a worse version of paternity testing with more steps? You're a logical woman. The idea of those two highly fallible optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:37 PM
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I agree that it is reasonable verification, but there is only one reason that verification would be needed: Because you suspect that someone else may have impregnated your partner. Consider that several children have been given to the wrong families. Consider that we have the signing of a legal document that, when challenged, ends up being (or should be) verified by tests anyway. Consider the potential health implications for the child. Consider that relationships can be messy and strict monogam…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:20 PM
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The Declaration of Sentiments was written in 1848 and is still used as a powerful counterpoint when people try to whitewash feminist misandry. Same idea here. Jezebel is hard evidence against the claim that feminists aren't hateful towards men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 04:05 PM
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Trust isn't telepathy. People get betrayed by people they trusted all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:59 PM
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Do any number of things to partner themselves up with the men that are currently feeling left out of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:32 AM
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By asking for a paternity test, the man is suggesting that his partner may have had sex with someone else. That isn't an accusation, it's just the most that anyone aside from the partner can possibly know for sure. An accusation would be "I think you've had sex with someone else." Asking for a paternity test is, at best, "I don't know whether or not this child is a result of us having sex." Again, it doesn't even necessarily answer the question of whether a woman is having an affair. Unfortunate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:30 AM
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There are no realistic non authoritarian measures to coax women into considering men they aren't drawn to. Exactly. Which means that we have to make a choice. Either we swallow the fact that men are going to be at a disadvantage in the dating market, or we take authoritarian measures to balance the playing field. Nobody wants intimacy with someone they aren't attracted to, even men. If you offered a single man a relationship with a randomly selected woman chances are he wouldn't take it. I think…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 07:17 AM
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High Key. Bring back Occupy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:42 PM
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Bourgeois scum Damn Bourgeois
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:35 PM
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Do women really perceive them as completely the same? No, they understand that it's not the same, but they also realize that fixing male loneliness due to lack of sex and relationships probably requires women to change their behavior, which they are unwilling to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:30 PM
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I don't think most guys are chomping at the bit to call their partner a whore but they can't really square asking for a paternity test without it coming off like that (because that's absolutely what it comes off as). But a paternity test doesn't prove she isn't a whore. It only proves that the kid is or isn't his.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:21 PM
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But it isn't. Technically, the child could be his but she could still be cheating on him i.e. she's using birth control with the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:19 PM
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Nope. Have at it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:17 PM
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A paternity test doesn't prove that she isn't a lying whore. Just that the child is actually his.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:17 PM
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No. We will need to make choices between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Current gender discourse mostly just flip-flops on these choices to whatever is in the favor of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/23 06:07 PM
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You fail to mention how men would have had far more leeway than women to select a partner based on raw physical attraction. Not necessarily. Consider arranged marriages, for example. This is a classic case that feminists cite as an example of women being traded like cattle, but they usually completely ignore that men and boys were/are also subject to the same treatment as the other half of these arrangements. On a basic ethical level it just seems unfair to remove that agency from one party but …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/23 01:59 PM
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My suspicion is that women's initial attraction (like men's) is extremely shallow and that they are a lot more flexible than they think. Feminism paints a picture of historical patriarchy where most women are forced into these horrible relationships with men that they absolutely hated. On the other hand, the issue with women's liberation is that it allows for the total prioritization of shallow, immature, and highly selective attraction, which ironically leads women to the exact same types of ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 08:38 PM
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Not without artificial intervention that will feel like oppression to women. Men are already happy enough to pair with most women to the point that the vast majority of women will have no problem finding partners. Women, however are selective and hypergamous. If the goal is to maximize coupling, sorry to say it, but women are the roadblock.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 06:42 PM
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Maaan that shit... Like I'm not trying to nail you on policy, I just want to get a relevant quote and go tf home
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:06 PM
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Ugh. That journalism grind. My condolences
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:02 PM
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Just made it over the line with Transunion. Equifax a real one tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:58 PM
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quotable af
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:04 PM
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We should definitely archive it. Jezebel said some horrible shit over the years which is likely to be memory holed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 01:52 PM
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Brooo they just send you down a rabbit hole. Have you seen the transparent hives?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:05 AM
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Well, what's consistent is that women both here and elsewhere like to dunk on loser men. It's just that in mixed company, they'd rather "hit back" and try to use some kind of reactive verbal jiu-jitsu rather than start the fight. They only "start it" in the other subs where it isn't a fair fight to begin with. Probably biological/socialization. Unless they're ND or otherwise male-brained, women mostly don't have the bravado to challenge men if there is a chance they might lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:49 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:26 PM
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Based and Byzantine Pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:01 PM
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Women by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:08 AM
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A man might say he's single. A woman would probably say it's complicated/not single.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 12:55 AM
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In a lot of cultures, historically and culturally, the teen years are when the society makes an overt effort to turn boys into men. Modern western society gets a lot wrong here and it's the core reason why we're seeing the crisis of masculinity in young men today. For one, men are not born. They have to be made. Or at least they have to be made if being a "real man" is something that our society still wants to see as a conditional status conferred upon males being what society needs them to be. …
/r/MensRights07/11/23 02:44 PM
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Oddly it was a large group of women who shot this person down and told her that this was not the time for man hating rhetoric. That women needed men right now and there was no point in purposely alienating potential allies. In my opinion, this tracks with what we've seen in the recent rise in public conciousness of men's issues...namely that it requires women and/or feminists to step up to the plate for men's issues rather than any recognition for it being generated on account of men's efforts. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 10:26 PM
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More to the point, feminists and anti male ideologies use men to do their dirty work unless the "enemy" is a vulnerable man or child. Strip enough of that lement away and there is really nothing they can do but stand there in impotent anger. This is where I'm heavily skeptical of this approach (although admittedly, it's better than the nothing solution that I have.) I heavily doubt that we will ever be able to convince a critical mass of men to turn their backs on women in enough solidarity to p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 08:55 PM
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Yep, which is why the most common argument as to why women won't leave their abusive boyfriend's is "but I love him!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:27 PM
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The OG Augustus Octavianus Caesar
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:24 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:22 PM
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You'll be fine. My first time I had 6 because I'm a fat fuck and I turned out just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:06 PM
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Nice seax, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:52 PM
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Female mid life crisis: signs up for Pilates Becomes an alcoholic, gets a divorce and flies to the Carribbean to passport sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:42 PM
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Yes. Also, that's just for the US. It's like that or worse in every nation on the face of the planet. Not an exaggeration. Every single country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/23 08:34 PM
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Not yet. I still count her as dark even if it's just a goth phase though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:29 PM
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I gave up and ordered some Uber eats by step 2
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:19 PM
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If most, men stopped paying for dates, women couldn’t get dates paid for. It wouldn’t be an expectation. Women will still want boyfriends and husbands and fuck buddies. If most men stopped paying for dates then women would simply stop dealing with most men. Which is probably fine with them since they don't want most men anyway. It would be like poor people "boycotting" an expensive brand. The expensive brand doesn't care if people that couldn't afford to be thier customers in the first place ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:05 PM
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This painting of women craving commitment but not sex and men wanting the opposite is not that accurate in reality. The issue is that they don't want sex and relationships from the types of average men that need to wine and dine them (i.e. less attractive men.) Average men have very little levarage over average women. So if average men decide to stop paying for drinks/dates/etc, it's not like women are going to be forced back to the bargaining table. No, women will just mess around with more att…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:47 PM
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Women would have to go 50/50, or they would be the ones going without. Women are far happier to "go without" partners at their level than men are. The Lysistrata gambit doesn't work on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:41 PM
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Most people know that everyone, including their parents, are flawed and human just like everybody else. I think it's more that most people eventually find out that their parents are flawed and human just like everyone else. It seems to resonate with a lot of people how wierd the role reversals with their parents can suddenly feel when they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:13 PM
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But also, men could just… choose not to do that and attempt to change the culture to a more egalitarian one. In other words, men could just choose to give up on sex and relationships entirely for the rest of thier lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:57 PM
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Dark. Just realizing that the light feminine is missing from BG3. They got me good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:42 AM
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Gotta admit, as a good boy, I'm somewhat intrigued by women who are actively trying to corrupt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:03 AM
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Don't sell your tits short. Tits are tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:56 AM
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watch what they do and then discard that and make up your own paranoid delusional reality accept whatever conclusions women want you to make. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:06 PM
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chad-executions What?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:00 AM
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I feel that AI will raise beauty standards for people who don't go outside That ship has sailed long ago. Which is incidentally why stable diffusion models have pretty women on the cover. Because the best images are generated from the largest dataset and the largest dataset is probably unattainably attractive women. /mansplain
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:54 PM
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Just a just rolling a nat 1 on the chromosome check.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:47 PM
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Try to get good at plausible deniability, so that you can make less risky approaches and observe what works and doesn't in a semi-experimental fashion. Also start very wide, slow and general and begin to hone in on targets gradually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:48 PM
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Oh no I'm in the same boat as you, still dreaming about doing it someday whenever I get the space. Yeah, electrical seems scary but I follow a few youtube channels where they basically seem to just hack it together pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:43 PM
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You make your dollhouses, I'll make a detailed, functional train diorama in the basement that I won't allow kids to touch. Happiness is embracing the weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:35 PM
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Assuming that women can admit to themselves that they have to share and that they aren't going to be the ones that get him to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:29 PM
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Just get a job at Vice and get paid to write bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:26 PM
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I'll give you boring, but an unloving relationship is way worse than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:57 PM
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Sure. But people underestimate how much of an impact any serious nose dive in gender relations or balance could have. Less underestimate. More aggressively failing to care unless it obviously and directly affects them. Especially if any solutions mitigating such a far away threat very likely require some sacrifice on their part. Or, in other words, it's difficult to get anyone to understand something when thier lifestyle depends upon not understanding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:17 PM
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Or they simply are more or less ok with the status quo and don't give af as long as they personally feel they're getting a deal they can live with. Trying to discuss why we need to (re)balance society according to some "big picture" is often motivated by people wanting to make their personal disadvantages into some kind of wider social issue. I'm not saying that this is necessarily an incorrect take, but the people who are doing just fine have little incentive to go along with those who want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:59 AM
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Will politics be forced in the long run to look at men’s issues from a non-feminist perspective? Will the left be forced to really look at men because alarmingly many will turn to the populist right? The only way things will change wrt gender politics is something that catostrophically destroys the establishment left. They will never abandon feminism and feminism will never cede ground to men. The best we can hope for is a new left that is agnostic about gender and that will only happen in the f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 09:37 PM
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As a Pats fan, thank you. I needed to remember the good times after the season we're having.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:45 PM
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what is the adjective for some deeply religious and patriarchal countries then? I'm not sure I understand the question. Deeply religious and patriarchal doesn't necessarily equate to misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:27 PM
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Can I ask though, because this concern feels very distant to me, what the scenario that leads to that is? Full disclosure, I personally don't have this fear, but I know where it comes from. There is a lot of messaging in the media, social campaigns, politics, the workplace, and general discourse around that strongly suggest that women largely see men specifically as predatory sex pests (or worse,) are frequently made to feel unsafe and uncomfortable by male sexual desire and approaches specifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:20 PM
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fuckin lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:16 PM
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Meanwhile women be like: "We live in a deeply misogynistic society"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:11 PM
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You do not need chocolate to live
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:06 PM
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No no...you we're right the first time. You SHOULD be fine. But on the other hand, that's no guarantee. It is very much is a risk. I agree a small one, but still, it exists. For men that are worried about the risk, I think more actionable advice to them is to give them strategies for dealing with the risk, rather than trying to minimize thier valid concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:02 PM
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you should be fine Not good enough for what's at stake
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:36 PM
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Hormons make people take risks. That is my very clear point. If there were no hormons involved, there would be no horniness and nobody would have sex. Hormones influence people to ignore or diminish risks. This is something men who don't even want to try to squeeze say. And yes, there are more and more of men like that. If you acknowledge that there are "more and more men like that" then what is the difference between whatever point in the past and now, if not society? The spikes in male sexless…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:34 PM
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Society has been sex positive for the last 55 years or so, since the sexual revolution of the late 1960s. For women and LGBTQ. People still see heterosexual male sexuality as gross, juvenile and predatory, even outside of SA or consent issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:17 PM
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I think that they can be an effective way of organizing society as long as they are applied or unapplied to both genders fairly. i.e. Gender roles for everybody or no gender roles for anybody. The mess of gender relations we are currently living in is a result of trying to dismantle or maintain gender roles in an uneven way, namely, in a way that prioritizes women's benefit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 12:44 PM
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Young men are horny because of hormones. Most men act on that and try to be with a girl. That is how nature made us. "Acting on horniness" does not equal "want to make mistakes." That was your original point. Hormones don't make men want to make mistakes. If anything, hormones make men more likely to ignore/invalidate risks to the exclusion of all reason. Don't blame society. Adapt and do what you can under the circumstances you live under. Take some damn accountability for your life. The adapti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:32 PM
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And my answer is: you remember when you were young and people were scary and the risks felt too big so you didn't learn these skills and lessons. Yeah. You still don't want to leave your comfort zone even now. Even now you're too scared and cowardly. Even now you want it handed to you and to be easy. Well it isn't. It never was. The risks felt scary and big but they really weren't. As a kid, you probably weren't going to be put on a list or something for being awkward and making a social faux pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:23 PM
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Nature makes it natural for men to want to learn from mistakes in a young age. That is why most do it. Nobody "wants to make mistakes." Most young boys do it because they have an overinflated ego which makes them feel invincible. It's not really choosing to "take a risk" as much as it's having enough confidence to feel like there is no real risk. Unfortunately, some boys are more aware of risk/unconfident about thier chance of success and modern soceity does a bang-up job of exaggerating whateve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:13 PM
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In a their perversions need to be studied way. Meanwhile women out here like "I want this man to pretend to rape me"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:24 AM
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School teachers frequently comment on the change in boys’ behaviors and language, including their use of common manosphere lingo, in the last 5 years or so. If it's only in the last 5 years or so, that means that Gen Z didn't grow up with the likes of Andrew Tate. Most Zoomers are in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:48 AM
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I'd say it's easy, but not simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:39 PM
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OP: "Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple..." Also OP: Writes a wall of text explaining how to approach without coming across as creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:44 PM
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Like trying to have sex with a Slinky
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:17 PM
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Can't make me cum if I never get hard. Checkmate, bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:06 PM
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What works for one woman will not work for another, but that’s the beauty of being socially competent. Yeah sometimes it’s awkward when one or the other isn’t getting the hint, but in the vast majority of these cases you just move on with your lives. Except this defense doesn't work when someone does get offended. Then it's "you should have known better" with the consequences for getting it wrong ranging anywhere from public shaming and humiliation, to reputation destruction, to literal criminal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:21 PM
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Mother Nature a dirty bitch for snow. Like a real funky ass bitch and you can tell her I said that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:21 PM
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Not really, especially for Boston. There's tons of colleges here. There's a ton of stuff in the city catered to people exactly her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:33 AM
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Yeah, she's pretty. I'm from Boston. I'd be interested if I was ten years younger with my current job/life etc. I think it's that she seems to be a bit anti-social. If she's going out on the weekends I don't see why she wouldn't have any options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:31 AM
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IMO the issue is not women not caring, it is women (and men) not knowing what is going on. I'm going to disagree. I think that there's actually four levels to the way men's issues are addressed by women. Not knowing what's going on Knowing what is going on but actively and aggressively ignoring, denying and minimizing it. Knowing what is going on and showing some genuine compassion, but only to the extent that it doesn't run counter to the dominant gynocentric/feminist narrative of gender discou…
/r/MensRights22/10/23 09:36 PM
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Yep 100%. My dad was a classic fuccboi and my mom was a good girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:50 PM
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For once, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:35 AM
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I like eating salmon but I hate reading it. That L is so goddamn tempting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:52 AM
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SEIZE THE MEANS OF REPRODUCTION!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:43 AM
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It is frivolous and minor compared to things like whether or not this man is more likely to be a poor partner, cheater or abuser. And your dogwhistle that this judgment is born out of some kind of misogyny is nothing but a persecution fetish. Society at large judges male desire in the exact same way. It's called "thinking with your dick." The only difference is that men are humble enough to admit that this is something that we are prone to, whereas women consistently deny it and try claim that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:52 AM
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This. Also, the flipside of "women are caretakers of children and elderly" piece also means that women are responsible for a lot of the abuse of children and elderly. The "men are more violent" argument begins to lose steam when you realize that a lot of it is just that women more consistently limit their violence to battles they are more likely to get away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:42 AM
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What's funny is that some women who blubber about the "trust issues" around being asked for a paternity would prefer their man to literally just lie about it rather than honestly bring up his concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:04 PM
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And what if she wanted to say “I just want to make sure you’re not fathering children outside of this marriage” does your wife have the right to be suspicious of every woman that’s platonically or professionally connected to you that becomes pregnant? She has the right to be suspicious of whatever she wants. What means does she have if verifying that you’re not about there cheating. Asking me, primarily. I'm not going to get upset just because she wants to know. Plus, why not just check for sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:07 AM
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That’s not the same at all. What amount of testing counts as "obsessive" is a matter of opinion. Point is, I'm not going to get offended just because my partner wants to get herself tested at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:56 AM
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Not necessarily, no. The only reason I would think a woman getting STD tested is a sign of trust issues is if she's doing it obsessively. So, if a couple get a paternity test done for every kid, one and done, no problem. If the dude is demanding that every kid get tested more than once so that he can cross verify results. Yeah, that's obsessive, and a sign of trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:13 AM
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But this is like, if your female coworker gets pregnant and your wife asks you if the baby is yours out of the blue. Answer: "No. Wanna get some lunch later?" End of. Maybe I'll ask her why she asked over lunch, but I'm not going to get offended just because she did. Honestly, the bigger concern of that is that she's keeping close tabs on the pregancies of my coworkers, not really that she asked me if I had anything to do with it. ​ there’s no other way to take it other than “I don’t trust you” …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:09 AM
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Again, your quarrel is with the system that allows that. This has little to do with YOUR integrity and good faith dealing within your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:56 AM
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Like I said I wouldn't be getting tested because it's my body. If she wants to get tested every month, yeah, she has trust issues, obviously, but I'm not against her getting tested at all. I'd encourage her to get tested at a reasonable rate if she wants it for her own peace of mind. Hell, I'll get tested on my yearly physicals too, for MY peace of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:53 AM
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But the man still gets screwed out of money and his kid, if it's his If it's his kid, he isn't getting screwed out of money. He's providing for his offspring. Not being able to see the kid just for wanting a paternity, yet another failure of the justice system and society, if that's what happens. Take solace in the fact that you were the only reasonable one in the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:47 AM
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Sure! The earlier in the relationship the better! Frankly I think people should do prenups too. But things are messy, people change. Sometimes, people don't know it's an issue until they're in the thick of it. Maybe the couple never even got married or expected to have children but it just kind of happened, as it does sometimes. So I'm not going to say. "Well, if he didn't give her x amount of prior notice of it then, no dice, he's an asshole." Especially since it's not a catastrophic ask, like …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:42 AM
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What is this fantasy of being able to trust someone 100%? People are not mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:17 AM
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If she cuts the relationship you don't get to see the kid anymore Not really your fault. She ended the realtionship for an immature reason."That bastard! He wanted to know he is actually related to the children I want him to help me raise for the next two decades!!! THE NERVE!!" you likely get forced to pay child support even if it turns out not to be your kid Which would be a catastrophic failure of the justice system given that you have hard evidence against you being at all resposible for sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:15 AM
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You wait for the kid to be born and do it anyway? Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:11 AM
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But if your wife of 5 years is pregnant and there’s no indication of cheating why be worried that the kid isn’t yours? Because some people are damn good liars. It's not personal. It's not about mistrusting her. It's about the basic reality that human beings are not telepathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:09 AM
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Me? No. My body, my choice She can though. Only thing is I might think her getting it done every month is obsessive but I'm not opposed to her getting tested on principle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:07 AM
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This. I have no problem if a woman gets a STD tests at her physicals. I'd encourage it. Hell, I get STD tests at my physicals and I barely even have sex. TF. She's supposed to risk her health unnecessarily because I "but lurve hiimmm?" No, bitch, get tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:05 AM
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Nobody said she's showing signs of an affair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:01 AM
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Have a discussion. Suss out why. She's not offended enough by your asking to end the relationship, so what's the problem? Maybe you can live with her reasoning, maybe you can change her mind, maybe you can't. Also, she says no? It's not her body. It's the kid's and your DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:00 AM
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It's not about "trust." It's about truth. People get screwed over by people they trust all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:53 PM
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It's not a "power play." Wtf. It's basic equality. Why do men have to just blindly trust that this child that they are emotionally, personally and financially investing in is actually thier offspring when there is a readily availible way of verifying that? Nobody but nobody gets on women's case for not blindly trusting men, nor should they. Like, it's idiotic. People get betrayed all the goddamn time by people they thought they could trust. Trot out for the millionth time how female victims of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:50 PM
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Honestly, just ask for the damn paternity test. Don't even lie about it to keep the peace. If she decides to implode the relationship because she gets so offended that you also want the privelige that she enjoys of knowing that your kids are actually yours (gasp! quelle horreur!!) then that's her perogative. Move on with your life. If she wasn't lying, see the kid when you can and if anybody asks, (especially the kid) feel some satisfaction in the truth that you aren't a deadbeat dad, but your e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:32 PM
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Sure why not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:55 PM
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Dating is supposed to be hard, you aren't going to be compatible with the vast majority of women you interact with. So hard that literal children manage to do it, yep
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:43 PM
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Is it? The conclusion "IT'S YOUR FAULT MY DATING LIFE SUCKS" (which is almost certainly not what anyone actually said, let's be honest) is incorrect, but is the reasoning behind it just some deliberate made-up bullshit? Or can we trace how a person might have reasonably come to that conclusion? Which is probably a better strategy for changing thier mind instead of just calling them a bullshitter. (Assuming that the goal is to change minds and not just to dunk on people over the internet)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:52 AM
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No. Kelly did not have “valid reasons” she wanted to blame other people for her bad decisions. Fair, you know this person better than I do. I said you should be open to people's reasoning, not accept it outright. Could be valid, could be bullshit. Don't assume that justifications are automatically deliberate bullshit just because you think their conclusion is wrong. You guys seem to underestimate how little respect and sympathy I have for people who like to blame things on other people. You do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:37 AM
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So why should I only believe you guys are correct when my lived experiences something entirely different? You shouldn't just believe anyone is correct. You SHOULD be open to the idea that they have valid reasons for believing what they do, even if you think/know they are incorrect. You should also be open to the idea that you may not understand the full reality of things and may, in fact, be incorrect yourself, especially when we're involving anecdotal evidence and lived experiences. In other wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:15 AM
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To go with this analogy, why are guys mad they couldn’t get the job cleaning toilets when they allegedly want the job in a office building? Except that isn't going with the analogy; That's making up a new one. The analogy that I've presented is "being upset that you've been passed up for a job that you are qualified for in favor of someone that is clearly unqualified." The analogy that you've presented is "being upset that someone was hired for an unpleasant job that is also very different than …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:20 AM
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Most people don't support Hamas, they support Palestinian people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:33 PM
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You get the same endorphin rush like when you play chess, and you make a genius move, and you want to yell “did you see that move bro?!” Imagine actually winning at chess for once. Or finding the clit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:30 PM
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Why care that the asshole has a girlfriend? Frank Grimes Syndrome. You ever been passed over for a job or position by someone who was clearly less qualified than you are according to what the position allegedly entails? Why would you want a woman who’s constantly dating assholes? It is because she’s hot and you’re mad that the women you want doesn't want you? Why are you assuming she’d not an asshole herself? Is her good looks worth ignoring red flags? Sure, she might be an asshole too, but is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:49 PM
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probably more common amongst the impoverished More the reason to make it a mandatory government program.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:17 PM
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If you don't want me when I've got the mattress directly on the floor, no boxspring, you don't deserve me when I've got a bedframe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:16 PM
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This is why the whole complaint that women aren't in positions of corporate/political power is kind of a red herring. The real source of power in the modern day is percieved victimhood. If you can convince everyone you are a victim, then you get to act with impunity and/or shame others into acting on your behalf and incurring whatever consequences arise from it. That's why feminists fight tooth and nail to make sure men aren't seen as societal victims even as the data shows men falling behind at…
/r/MensRights17/10/23 02:16 PM
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Yeah I follow this channel. ...kinda want to eat the duck ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:16 AM
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Everyone pays for its own shit, problem solved Translation: Men just get ghosted/dragged online for being cheap, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:12 AM
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Grew up surrounded by women, heard what they said, watched what they did, and IME it tracks with what I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:02 AM
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In my imagination, he is making direct, unbroken eye contact with her as he does it, like your dog is taking a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:16 PM
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Sorry...the 70th shower washes off the smell of misogyny. Common mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:14 PM
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I (somewhat) got over my crippling fear of talking to girls by hanging out with girls who were "one of the guys" so to speak. Nope. Because she is specifically "not like other girls." So talking to the "exactly like other girls" is a different animal, unless said Tomboy has a secret crush on you and then turns into a "exactly like like the other girls" in a romantic context. Note secret crush doesn't guarantee this. Source: collected tomboys friends like Pokémon, at least a couple of which I dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:02 PM
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No. That's not how it works Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:34 PM
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No Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:30 PM
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heart nipples
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:54 PM
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Like what does this mean then? Women want to be with the person they are attracted to? What is "positive" about someone depends what you are attracted to. To illustrate, consider a group of 5 men, 5 women on a normal curve of attractiveness. The situation isn't that everyone automatically pairs up. It's that all the women are attracted to one guy (the most dominant/attractive/alpha) and the others are left out. If we change it so that the men are all attractive, then we may have a situation wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:13 PM
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Have not noticed a lot of strollers in Boston over several cons. Mostly, friend groups, I want to say most of the time, not gender balanced. Obvious couples are usually high effort cosplay and attractive. That's just my experience, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:59 PM
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Where's "out here?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:50 PM
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And what is attractive is subjective. And of course if someone with traits you find attractive is there you want to be near him. Subjective yes, unique no. Attractiveness also includes a lot more than looks. I know. I never claimed as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:46 PM
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They’re the overweight nerd couples you see all over cons with babies in strollers, all of them in kind of low-effort but sincere cosplay “for the kids”. YMMV on these groups being "full of couples." The majority of people, especially nerdy and overweight, I see at cons are seem to be single or in friend groups and certainly not toting kids and strollers around 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:41 PM
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The fewer attractive traits a man has, the fewer women will be attracted to him. That’s not anything women are doing to him, he just literally doesn’t have anything to attract them. "Having fewer attractive traits" does not mean "he just literally doesn't have anything to attract them." Sure, 6/10 is not 10/10, but it also isn't 0/10 either. That women might basically see 6/10 men as equivalent to 0/10 as you describe isn't something that men can just avoid by going for the geeky girls. Instead,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:22 PM
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Yea if you’re the least attractive member of a group AND you have no positive traits, there is no silver bullet guaranteed to get you a girlfriend. You still have to have something about you that a girl likes more than other guys. Gonna stop you right here because this kind of weasel wording is what leads to a lot of talking past each other. The issue isn't that a guy is the least attractive member of the group and has no positive traits. It's that women often gravitate towards the most attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:05 PM
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Imperial is better for temperature at a human scale, the range from 0° - 100° F is about the normal range human beings can stand without getting hurt. 0° F means you're risking hypothermia. 32° F Means it's cold and ice is everywhere but you won't die. 40°- 60° is chilly to cool. 70°- 90° is room temp to hot. 100°+ F is risking heatstroke. On the other hand, 0°C is cold but not immediately deadly, while 100° is enough to literally boil you alive. That goes for other imperial units as well. Imper…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 04:05 PM
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Waffles or you deserve to die a heretic's death
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:48 PM
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hey mean the whole situation is a staged set with people standing around in the background doing lighting and sound and camera angles. Which isn’t usually how most people fuck. No, they mean that the sex in porn looks way more glamorous, fun and sanitized than it actually is, and also that you shouldn't expect "real sex" to look or feel anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:43 PM
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In D&D, that means the person who is best at roleplay and story telling. More accurately, D&D Flavored Chad. Means jack shit to the less attractive men in the group that they happen to share a hobby with an attractive guy. Rule #1 is always "Be attractive." Deciding not to chase Stacy just means you'll get rejected by less attractive women unless you address the attractiveness bit. Look at what's happened with a lot of geek culture as it's made it into the mainstream. The original geeks didn't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:37 PM
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It just seems like almost everything written in this group is very aligned with conservative ideals. My support for men isn't "an alignment with conservative ideals." It's a consistent application of progressive ideals that also includes men. Most leftists seem to compromise on leftist principles when it comes to those they see as "the oppressor." I try not to do this. People being responsible and held equally accountable for their own actions. This is the tradcon/feminist position when talking …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 03:55 AM
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In other news, water is wet. More at 6.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 01:27 PM
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Nah, low bone density Marscels getting thier hips shattered with minimal force like old-ass men. "Welcome to Earf"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:24 PM
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American football at the olympics when?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:02 PM
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Oof, that kind of mockery is just asking for it. I knew you were trouble when you walked in...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:59 PM
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Isn't posting pictures the whole point of instagram? Honest question, I never really got into it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:48 PM
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It's a cheap, rhetorical trick that implies (but never overtly states, since that would invite people to disprove) that there is an abundance of availible women who aren't shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:27 PM
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Is it that there are literally few guys that want serious relationships on OLD? Or is it that there are few highly attractive guys on OLD who want to settle for relationships with the type of mid-level women who complain about there being no good men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:58 PM
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Widow would be fun to chase and have her come up with cruel ways to reject you. Mercy would be too kind but still reject you (politely) anyway. But Mei, especially annoyed and probably on Reddit like in the pic, yeah, she looks like the type of girl that you could have awkward, drunken unsatisfying sex with after her 5th wedding reception as the chubby bridesmaid. That's the good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:31 PM
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Ass-men is a more recent phenomenon, no? A girlfriend/wife asking her man if her outfit makes her butt look too big is an old trope. Never heard of a woman worrying if her tits are too big outside of like, lower back pain territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:39 PM
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Wait "five oldest"?! Your bloodline is strong, sir
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:26 PM
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Are yall socially handicapped or what??? That's kind of the problem. If the men asking for help were capable of following that kind of "just be normal" advice, then they proably wouldn't need help in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:49 PM
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Daughter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:04 AM
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Do my best never to have a future son.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:43 PM
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Not to men. "Attractive" = "would fuck"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:06 PM
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Should women not date guys that they like if they don't inspire immediate animal lust in us? From the male perspective, pretty much yeah. Why would you want to date someone that doesn't inspire lust in you? Doesn't compute/sounds fishy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:04 PM
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So if there is attraction, Big if
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:01 PM
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Manufacturing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:56 PM
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empaths be like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:52 PM
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my son's favorite series We won't judge you for liking a children's cartoon, you don't have to use your son as an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:49 PM
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It's an opportunity to stiffarm another h0e for that bouquet, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:48 PM
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Maybe you're just asexual. Like, imagine being so obsessed with sex that you're willing to risk 9 months of pregnancy and hours of labor to potentially birth the child of a man who probably couldn't give less of a fuck about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:06 PM
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Þótdóttir
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:02 PM
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Never has been
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:52 PM
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I know people say that “what women find attractive is subjective” -- but women aren't as original as they think they are. I very rarely see this “diversity” of taste in real life, especially it is absent with young couples. Well, to women's credit, they can and do have starkly different preferences, which show up often in thier friend groups. Some women are attracted to rocker types, some to emos, bad boys, popular guys, players, thugs, intellectuals, artists, bohemians, pretty boys etc. What th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:49 PM
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The Chad who has no problem getting any babe he wants yet he is in a relationship with a bunch of frumpy average broads. Not in a relationship, just pumping and dumping or in some kind of situationship with a rotation of women. Also, thinking that Chad doesn't deal with frumpy average broads because he has access to top tier babes is female logic. Men often prioritize ease of access and attainability over quality, because quality usually equals more effort on his part. Stacy is hot but she still…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:25 PM
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There's a very large asymmetry of social power in women's favor that you're ignoring here. Women already occupy a place of social concern and consideration that men simply don't (which they always have,) even more so now in the modern, zero-sum nature of gender discourse, which pits the genders against one another, largely enforced by women's interest groups, which are often on a hair trigger to cry misogyny at any point where women are not seen as the biggest victims. Even the men at the head o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:45 AM
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Feelings, interactions, expressions, and/or attitudes indicative or affirming of a mating pair bond, or the desire for such a status with another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:18 PM
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Meanwhile, many men are in a position where nobody wants them for a damn thing, much less caring about them or their wellbeing. Being wanted only for your body would be an upgrade to being entirely disposable and forgettable. Like, I understand that being objectified can suck. But what if being objectified is the best you can likely hope for? Cue male suicide rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:07 PM
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It's controlled opposition
/r/MensRights03/10/23 12:57 PM
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Like whiteknights and radfems. If you get described as "one of the good ones," by a partner or a peer group, you might want to take a hard look at your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:32 PM
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I'm not short. I'm down-to-earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:07 PM
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Learn to use plausible deniablility, meet women in all the places, and if/when it works out, remember it months/years down the road as your "meet cute" story. 'Spergs trying to follow the explicity stated rules, smh my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:40 PM
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Largely, it depends on whether you come off as a failure or not i.e. "do you have potential" Nice, but poor guy stuck living with his parents is a failure and no woman wants anything to do with him. Badboy mooching off his folks and dealing drugs on the side is seen as a potential Alpha that just never really applied himself and she thinks she can "fix him."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:37 PM
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Thoughts on the "had donuts for breakfast" body type? Asking for a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:31 PM
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Giving for me. I didn't like anal stuff at all until a lady had me give her some. Eating ass is now my favorite meme out of Gen Z lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:34 PM
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Is it possible to just not get hangovers? I've never gone far enough to black out, but even when I've drank enough to start puking, I've never felt bad enough the morning after to think about eating a raw egg or anything. Maybe a little dehydrated, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:19 PM
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If it's "pretty normal" does it really even count as a kink? Which is to say that all my kinks are the "fake my death and disappear if anyone found out" kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:09 PM
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Based. Alternate day fasting and then eat what you want on feeding days. Lost 15lbs that way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:16 PM
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Giving or receiving?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:14 PM
1

Gotta use Nair or something to get in all the nooks and crannies
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:13 PM
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Is it any less embarrassing to say you watch hentai tenticle porn than have a AI girlfriend? Yes? Admitting that you have an AI girlfriend is closer to admitting that you use sex dolls, and we know for a fact that the latter happens more than people openly talk about it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:45 PM
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Just no. First of all, outside of a bar or some other setting where people typically socialize, men really shouldn’t be bothering women by cold approaching them in non-social spaces, like grocery stores. It’s just fucking weird, and almost every time, a guy who does this is going to be interrupting someone’s day and likely annoying her. Bullshit. There is absolutely no consensus among women on what is and isn't a proper time/place to approach, and one woman's "inappropriate" scenario is guarante…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:50 PM
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5th slice of pizza and 2nd beer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:23 PM
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You're still a kid. The nostalgia is going to hit you hard too someday
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:21 PM
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Yea it's actually "fixing to"->"fixin' ta"->"fi'in'a" "Finna" is that thing that Gen Z does where they adopt black people's speech patterns without actually knowing what it means a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:43 AM
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Go after the weak and sick ones first
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:23 AM
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Older women aren't attracted to younger guys, What? Yeah they are. Cougars, women "getting thier groove back on vacation, etc." A lot of women get horny af around menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:19 AM
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TBF he didn't say "DEI training." He said "sexual assault training" which to me, sounds like training that is specifically centered round avoiding sexual assault. And like anything else, the quality of such training can vary. My DEI training at work sounds similiar to what you got. But my freshman orientation in college was "Ladies, look to your left, look to your right. One of those men will rape you," with me sitting right next to a girl. I'd be lying if I said that didn't directly increase my…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:18 PM
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No. They'll receive tons of dick pics and graphic sex descriptions. To find an actual fuck would take a lot more than 60 mins. And all these women would have to do is be slightly receptive to those messages and they could be fucking within the hour. I don't know why you're talking as if getting offered sex immediately makes it somehow harder to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:09 PM
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That it personally benefits themselves on an individual basis if a woman is exclusive with him while he sleeps with other women. That’s it. That doesn't make sense for men to laud other men for being players though. If my goal was to sleep with as many women as possible, I'd probably want every other guy to be monogamous and settle for my leftovers to limit the competition. But men (and women) are impressed with men that can pull because we all understand that that shit's kinda difficult, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:35 PM
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Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:10 PM
1

Bo'o'o'wo'a
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:07 PM
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push pull game was the only leg up for average men and now that game has been foiled No it wasn't. Just being a decent guy in close proximity was enough to get by in decades past until social media and OLD inflated women's standards up to men far above their level. And those are the exact guys that routinely hook women with push/pull, almost not even deliberately, but just because of the abundance of options. Nothing about push/pull has been foiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:56 PM
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Imagine your “coworkers” are children and you barely get to be around any fellow adults most of the day until your spouse gets home. For the first 5 years, maybe. Then it's off to school/summer camp and you get the AM to early afternoon to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:46 PM
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This triggered me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:17 PM
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Cilantro tastes soapy to you? Apparently it's genetic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:14 PM
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If that's shocking to you, you definitely aren't watching enough porn then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:12 PM
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The six pack especially. Even if we could say with absolute certainty that women universally preferred the cut muscular guy, it would still belie the vast number of women who would find the lifestyle completely incompatible. It's one thing to say that not all women would want to tolerate the lifestyle that goes along with a super fit guy. It's quite another to say that she would, for that reason, choose to get with an unfit guy. Being single is always an option. Or just having a casual relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:14 PM
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That's going to be a really hard sell. IME any nudist space that doesn't cater to women's priorities will lose women, and losing women means the place goes belly-up or has to become known as a gay spot to survive. Idealism is one thing, but unfotunately my advice is just keep your head down, and be happy they allow single men at all.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 08:42 PM
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The Sims fandom is wild, and can be almost as obsessed and/or toxic as any group of League players. Full-on gaming community that, don't care what anybody says about it being "casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:36 PM
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The Sims fandom is wild, and can be almost as obsessed and/or toxic as any group of League players. Full-on gaming community that, don't care what anybody says about it being "casual."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:34 PM
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I wrote this in another comment but there's this weird thing going on in gamer culture of masculine games being treated as superior, and marketed heavily towards men, but also women are sort of expected to get into them inspite of the boy's club that they've been made to be, but also many men hate that we invade said boy's club and will try to gate keep us out of said games for being "fake gamer girls". Tbf I think there are certain types of games that have a heavily mainstream, "hardcore gamer …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:32 PM
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Im honestly floored that so many guys wanted to get you into male centric anime and games. Same. I've actually had the opposite in my relationships, where I ended up getting into the stuff that she was into. Anecdotally, I've heard more situations where men felt pressure to quit the vidya/anime altogether from women rather than trying to impose DBZ or whatever on thier gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:17 PM
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I think the wrench here is that findom guys are specifically looking for/addicted to the self-destructive parts of it. They specifically want to be abused, humiliated and degraded. Other addictions usually involve chasing the high, with the lows being a side effect. We can talk about the attraction to findom as a symptom of a larger societal issue, but I think the kink of findom in and of itself isn't so much of an injustice.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 08:11 PM
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My tastes actually evolved away from conventional and more towards what was accessible to me, personally, instead of media coverage. Redheads were always really flirty with me for some reason, so started to have a thing for redheads. Definintely started to prefer aggressive or dominant women but I'm not exactly sure where it came from, but I do latch onto such women in media. And while I used to really dislike heavier women, I grew to really appreciate a bit of well-placed chub, especially for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:51 PM
1

jk are you though? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:41 PM
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Ahh...I used to be a reporter too. Then I had to pay my student loans lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:37 PM
1

Wait you're a reporter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:26 PM
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Disagree with most of this. If we look at masculinity and femininity as a spectrum, a lot of what modern culture does is encourage men to be less masculine, and encourage women to be less feminine - ie. make everyone a part of this grey middle ground to be an interchangeable cog in the machine. Not really. "Toxic Masculinity" is a thing in popular gender discourse but "toxic femininity" really isn't. What's really happening is that the spectrum of femininity is seen more as tthe default while ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:42 PM
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Lae'zel Bae'zel
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:57 AM
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Bisexual female: the best class for beginners that want to do a bit of everything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:12 AM
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Not all women are lying, but many definitely are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:16 AM
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Pearl is definitely not nice. That's some real woman thinking right there that "nice" = "agrees with me" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:11 AM
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Because they don't, lol what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:14 AM
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American football is regular football wym
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:12 AM
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Well, you got me there. My thing was pretending I was okay when I wasn't. For me, the substance abuse was almost a gateway into the perscription tbh. Like, being drunk/high clears up some of my issues. What I could do that but with Doctor's orders taps temple. Turns out, my meds helped me out with it in places when I had to be functional, like work 🤷‍♂️ Getting sloshed is still fun, though, yeah, in the proper context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:05 PM
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Yes, the weight gain with antipsychotics is a common complaint. From what I've seen/experienced, though, being off of them is so much more destructive, and it can get so much better if you stick it out long enough to find something you can live with. I legitimately fear for my person's life when she's off and wish I could just help her to stick with out long enough. She's a beautiful person, and it makes me very sad to see her spinning her wheels like that. Personally, I do get the sleepiness on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:37 PM
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I know, it sucks. Keep trying to find what works for you, though. It can get better. Don't give in to the feeling that you're invincible and can do without. That's just the mania talking, and it doesn't often end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:16 PM
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Mood. But seriously take your meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:09 PM
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Aww Congrats! How dare you make me feel things in my cold, dead heart
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:58 PM
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Well what did you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:03 AM
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It's Saturday. That's when everyone is out having sex (or trying to) in order to refill their ammo for next week's arguments over which gender is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:37 PM
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Yes, mommy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:09 PM
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That is a myth. Even if it's not a myth, it happens very very rarely. Even if it doesn't happen rarely, is not systemic. Even if it is systemic, it's not feminism's fault. Even if it is feminism's fault, it's nothing compared to what women go through. Men need to stop being assholes and realize not everything is about them. i.e. "The Narcissist's Prayer" made ideology: "That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 05:55 PM
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I've been curious about this. How would one go about finding women that are into this???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:35 PM
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and pineapple
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:14 PM
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This led me down a rabbit hole to discover that breakdancing is an event in the Paris games next summer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:05 PM
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When women stop virtue signaling, and pretending that they like nice guys, then maybe "nice guys" will stop getting upset at being rejected for being too nice and soft. it's only because humanity has long been extinct. ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:09 AM
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It’s a very much “relationships are transactions” way of thinking, your not going to be nice to someone or do something for someone if your not personally going to get something out of i Also women: "I am the table. What do you bring to the table?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:34 PM
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The B group is just the A group but more vocal about their frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:33 PM
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"The bar" only ever applies to men she's attracted to in the first place. The men that she isn't attracted to might as well be a different species or lamp posts as far as dating is concerned. Attractive men and unattractive men are like comparing apples and oranges to women. Worse, like comparing apples and rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 12:01 PM
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Fuck bro. Got me spooked. Sex isn't worth it, I quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:06 PM
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I'm guessing it's not Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:04 PM
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without ever having to admit that maybe, just maybe, you have responsibility for having reasonable expectations, compassion, and patience as well. Because we can't have that, can we? Nope, never going to happen, and the sooner men realize it, the better. It's not in women's strategic interest to make any of this reasonable, logical, easy or fair for men because the last thing she wants is to allow some man she isn't attracted to a possibility of earning his way into her pussy. In addition, women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:28 AM
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As ever when dealing with women, the challenge to men is "Guess what women want. See what happens."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:04 PM
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This 'judged on things we cannot control' line kinda falls flat with me as an excuse since most men don't do much to improve the appearance aspects they can control Probably because it's seen as wasted effort if you still get disqualified for the several things you can't control
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:27 PM
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You're implying the premptive caution came out of nowhere, when it actually comes from reasonable concern for ability and statistical behaviour. Which when applied to demographic groups other than cishet men, would probably be called prejudice and bigotry, btw. Effectively, something like, "Black people are statistically more likely to commit a crime, so, as a precaution, let's follow this Black person around our business to make sure they don't try to steal anything." I understand what you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:43 PM
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You and plenty others seem to have taken that as “looks don’t matter at all” — very few people say or believe this, but your entire argument hinges on the idea that women collectively say this. Similarly, you and plenty others seem to have taken "looks matter way more than I was led to believe," as "I was told that looks don't matter at all." The most rational viewpoints of either side are somewhere pretty near each other in a plausible middle ground, but the gender wars require that we mischara…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:09 PM
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Teachable, mask-off moment here, gentleman. It's a constant shit-test. What women really want is men who dare to stand up to them, even as they will swear up and down that men need to listen more. Because if men actually do what women (say) they want, then that implies that women hold some responsibility for whatever happens, and that accountability is the last thing that women want. They told y'all in Genesis. Listening to Eve will fuck you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:54 PM
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Sure, but men will also admit that they go for women purely out of sexual attraction to the exclusion of everything else (which they also get socially dragged for,) whereas women will usually try to deny it and avoid the social judgment for being shallow that men just take on the chin. Adding to this, while men are more or less agnostic to personality/compatibility/LTR viability in a partner as long as she's hot enough, there are a lot of observations that women are specifically attracted to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:26 PM
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Disagree. Women regularly use preemptive caution with men in general, regardless of any concrete evidence, from keeping an eye on men around small children, to crossing the street when they see a man coming in their direction, to avoiding being physically isolated with a man. Women are primed to see men as threats and treat them with suspicion until proven otherwise, not the other way around and that level of caution is applied to groups of men just as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:13 PM
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Excuse me sir, not everyone is a Beautiful Prince Man, that is "the fun one" of the group, who is also excellent in bed and has a massive, massive penis. *scoffs and storms off in a huff*
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:06 PM
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This tends to be because of something harmful that group is doing though. Disagree. Women's suspicion of men is usually preemptive, not reactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:43 PM
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"The spark" is just subconscious attraction and isn't exclusive to women. Can you logically explain why you like your favorite ice cream flavor? No. You like what you like. The problem with "the Spark" wrt to dating is that people, especially women, want to be able to use it as a "get out of judgement free" card when confronted with the fact that what does and doesn't give them "the spark" isn't always congruous with what is rationally good for them, and that they should probably learn to make b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:39 PM
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But when you date within your social circle... you and your friends know them. If they are an asshole and hiding it, you are almost guaranteed to have a friend tell you about it. So you can lose the anxiousness, relax, show self confidence. But then when you break up, you risk losing the entire social group if the ex is a better politician (read: liar) than you. Edit: Also everyone is going to know how much you suck in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:40 PM
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spoilsport
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:38 PM
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It's not women's fault if men have no empathy for their fellow men. It's not women's fault if men are worse at creating support networks. I don't know about that. Women get suspicious when men congregate outside of female supervision and have actively attempted (and succeeded) in getting such organizations either shut down or socially shunned. If there are problems that men face, (like circumcision, the male draft, unfair custody etc.) men have the power to legally change them. The fact that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:36 PM
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The "race war" was practically dead in the West by the time social media came about. The only reason it has reached the divisive heights it has today is because of heavy-handed campaigns by the idpol wing of the Left that (falsely) suggest that race relations have barely improved since Jim Crow, and the backlash generated from that kind of hysteria. My tinfoil hat theory is that this is actually a deliberate psyop meant to distract the masses from achieving class consciousness. The gender war is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/23 11:57 AM
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No no, you see, the poster specifically states that "A woman who is intoxicated cannot give her consent." There's nothing about the man other than that he's drunk (and also a RAPIST.) Male consent isn't a consideration, clearly, so fuck 'im. Perfect logical consistency unless you are some kind of filthy egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:18 AM
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Won't work. Men want results, not platitudes. Everyone's mom tells him that he's a handsome young man and he's going to make some girl happy one day. When it doesn't happen, he gets angry and goes Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:11 AM
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It leads to a lot of bizarre double standards, like it’s normal for women to wear pants but men are laughed at for wearing a kilt. I actually think that there is too much focus on that kind of window dressing. Harry Styles or Lil Nas wearing dresses, men crying more and wearing nail polish, drag and queer men are cheered as examples of breaking patriarchal norms in certain spaces. But there doesn't seem to be a lot of examination of allowing cis-hetero men to step outside of their roles in a way…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:45 PM
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This only ever works in one direction, though. If the guy is troubled in masculine ways (i.e. a "bad boy") she thinks she can "fix him" by balancing him out with femininity. But if he's troubled in a feminine way (i.e. a "nice guy") well, she's not a man, so she both can't and doesn't want to "fix him" by balancing him out with more masculinity. The problem is that our feminized society and heavy demonization of "toxic" masculinity leads a lot of men into the latter situation rather than the for…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:18 PM
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These two are perfect for each other ngl. And that's why they will never date
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:03 PM
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i watch this channel in hopes to understand men's problems in a way thats not "aLl BecAusE Of WOmEn!!1!" and i feel like i acutally learned quite a bit. But also, I feel like sometimes he presents issues in a kind of "men are dumb" kind of way. Eventually, you're going to run into blaming one gender or the other, so just decide which is more tolerable to you and go with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:01 PM
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Unfortunately, it's not so easy to figure the right balance of this while actively desiring a relationship. For example, I started to understand how to do this by accident when I had a girlfriend and was trying to avoid other women. But, basically: You should flip the script with women from you trying to get something out of them, to them trying to get something out of you. Treat her like she's a salesperson trying to get you to buy what she's got. In that vein, always keep in mind that, no matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:37 PM
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I sorta treated them like they were an annoyance, was more critical, and short-tempered. Dismissive and judgemental in tone and words. Deliberately disagreeable, difficult, and unaccomadating. A bit rude and unpolite in a kind of "I'm just telling the truth" kind of way. Not mincing words. Acting superior. Essentially, it is the opposite of how I normally interact with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:20 PM
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As cringe as it is, i wonder if any guys here have tried to put on a more arrogant/reckless bad type persona and how different the people acted Did and women seemed to be more overtly attracted to me. My conscience couldn't handle it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:54 AM
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Zones
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:56 PM
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Modern society and women generally echoes the feminist idea that "toxic masculinity" and patriarchial norms are individually and socially harmful, and backward and are thus unattractive to women. But often women are attracted to the type of men that epitomize those behaviors, and repulsed by the men that behave in the opposite way. Modern society and women tend to promote this idea that, of the two genders, women are the more mature, enlightened, "deeper" and prioritizing serious commitment in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:59 PM
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That's a good example but I wouldn't say it's a moral failing necessary of moral judgement. I think a lot of people do see it as a moral failing, but it's subjective, and whether this specific case is seen as a moral failing isn't the issue. It's how adaptive the behavior is to the situation. Violating morality standards might be one of the reasons that the behavior is maladaptive, but it doesn't always have to be. What consequences? For one, pointing out that women's dating habits violate sever…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:12 PM
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If you're going to act like it's all down to biology and women are just following their natural drive which has contributed to the most "successful" species that has ever existed, then frankly why the hate? I don't think that understanding the biological or natural rationale behind behavior is mutually exclusive with making a moral judgment. For example, it's true that humans have a natural/biological attraction to fatty and sugary foods because they are dense sources of calories. But it's also …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:43 PM
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Nope! I had a donut!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:41 PM
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Men lie about what they want and women lie about what they want. Nah women lie about what they want. Men lie about what they will commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:28 PM
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You have many more ahead of you. You can't even drink yet
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:22 PM
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I’m not planning the wedding Lol, yes you are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:17 PM
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Women will never willingly give up their power in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:15 PM
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Doubt. A big reason why singledom is considered a valid option for women is because it is seen as more of a choice/the fault of men that fail to see her value. When the tables are truly turned and women are made to feel inadequate, we see similar feelings of self-loathing, low self-esteem, and people pleasing behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:29 AM
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Zones
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:06 AM
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Maxima Decima Meridia
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:40 PM
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Men and women both
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:04 PM
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A nude photo will ruin a woman’s life, Not necessarily if it's a tasteful nude and, even if it's not, only if she cares about being seen as "a good girl" by traditional society. There's virtually no situation where it's seen as acceptable for men to be nude in a photo, that won't also get him branded as a pervert, homosexual or both. sex insults are only directed at women Male sexuality has been seen as dirty and degrading since the beginning of time, and at the same time, NOT having sex is indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:27 PM
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If I could remove one thing from this earth it would be football (both NFL and FIFA) I'm not even the biggest football fan and this is one of the most triggering comments I've ever read on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:31 PM
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What even is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:24 PM
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Would you rather be in a pool with a shark or in a cage with a tiger?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:40 PM
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Australians got the combo going on: "Wadah, mate"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:07 PM
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"Do lioncels even understand that we female lions aren't ALWAYS attracted to the winner of the fight? Like, it's uh totally personality 'kay?" I mean, look at what happened to Scar. Once a beta always a beta
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:36 AM
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I'd be a THOT with daddy issues, most likely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:57 PM
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Wait so did he say that he was creeped out or that he thought you were hitting on him or were you just wondering about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:16 PM
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Get one. Seriously. Just go to your GP and tell them how you're feeling and see if you can get a scrip with minimal/no therapy. What you're writing sounds like I could have written it a few months ago. My medication helped me a lot. It's definitely worth a try vs. the alternatives
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:10 PM
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Take your meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:04 PM
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The evidence we have for Pontus Pilate is A coin that might(?) have his face on it? Nothing else I've heard that we have also have a part of a building inscribed with his name.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:39 AM
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We literally know more about him than we know about the governor of the province (Pontus Pilate) and have more evidence for his existence. I doubt this. AFAIK we have actual material evidence that Pontius Pilate existed (a Roman inscription and some coins bearing his name from during his the alleged time of his administration) whereas the most evidence we have of Jesus is that a lot of people said/believe he existed. FWIW I do think that Jesus most likely existed but I think that saying we have …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 02:26 AM
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