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| 1 | "Game" is overrated.Things like game, charisma, personality, humor, intelligence etc. only help you outcompete men of similar attractiveness to you. So yeah assuming an unattractive woman is looking for a relationship and doesn't want to stay single, since of course no attractive guy is going to date her seriously, she'll pick the unattractive guy with those qualities over the unattractive guy with none of those qualities. But top tier personality, high charisma, masterful game, ultra high IQ, the humor of a comedi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticYoung, skinny and agreeable is high standards now? Bruh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:48 PM |
| – | What is the point of dating men if they will always prefer younger women?People get what they can, not what they want. Ideally given the choice not only all men would be dating 20 year old women, they'd date 20 year old SUPERMODELS. And not just one, MULTIPLE. The same thing can be said about women. What's the point of dating if women always prefer some 6'4 ultra handsome fit guy with tons of money and fame? Why even bother when they'll inherently disrespect you, cheat on you, leave and get half your assets and your kids in a divorce? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:06 AM |
| -1 | Do you think men and women have different timelines for when they peak?Noone peaks physically after 30. It was the first sentence I typed. It goes for both men and women. And what I mean by "peak" is maximum attractiveness that you can achieve. So can a very obese woman start working out and eating properly at 30, lose a lot of weight and at let's say 35 be more attractive than before? Sure. But the ceiling has also gotten lower. If she had put that effort when she was 20 and had lost the weight by 25, she'd be more attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 01:12 AM |
| 2 | Do you think men and women have different timelines for when they peak?Physically? No. Younger people are more physically attractive on average. Noone peaks in their 30s. Generally? Well it depends on wealth, status and willingness to leverage those to date younger hotter, but less financially well off, people. Men generally are far more willing to do that. So yeah, if dating hot women you actually want is the end goal, some men can potentially peak later in life. Some 5'10 average looking guy at 23 with barely any money isn't going to get hot young women generally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Only wanting women who give you instant sexual gratification is being picky too.That's true. If you want the best woman you can get, you have to put effort and investment. For example, even if you're a 9, you have to put some effort to get a 9, because the competition is by default high, and there are men as desirable as you pursuing her. However, if you're a 9 and the woman is a 7, she simply is much more likely to jump straight into bed with you without requiring you to put much effort and investment, because it's highly unlikely she can easily get another 9, it's essenti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Sex isn't a "need". Men just want to have sex because it'll give them status among other men.Sex is definitely a need, just not an immediate need. You can't survive without water for long, you can survive without sex. However, the purpose of all animals, homo sapiens included, is ultimately sex and reproduction, thus the continuation of your genes. Each body is a vessel of its genes. It only needs to survive till it reproduces and passes on its needs, ideally a lot of times and with high genetic quality partners. You can have all the food and water in the world, but the body can live to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 11:46 PM |
| 0 | A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationshipsNo woman will be 100% ok with it, but some women might tolerate it if the guy is considerably more desirable than themselves. For example, if the woman is a 6.5 and somehow managed to start dating a guy that is an 9, she might tolerate his infidelity out of necessity in order to stay with him. She knows her chances of getting another such guy are slim to none, while she also knows he can easily find a more desirable woman than herself if they break up. It's just one of many ways a less desirable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 10:45 PM |
| 2 | Guys are to blame for expensive datesTaking her to a 3 michelin star restaurant will generally increase your chances of success more than taking her to mcdonalds. We can debate by how much, but it generally has a positive impact. Some guys can afford it easily because they make bank, some guys can't because they are making average wage. Different men have different levels of ability. For some men paying 500 for a fancy date is pennies and they won't lose any sleep over it. For others it's a considerable amount of the annual salary.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Simps are the problem.You're only a simp if you put a lot of time, effort and money into it, get nothing in return and have nothing to show for it. A mediocre looking rich man who puts effort and uses his money to fuck, date and most importantly reproduce with a very beautiful woman is not a simp if he gets what he wants. He is winning. At worst you can call him superficial or transactional, but that's about it. He is just exchanging what he has in abundance for what he wants - a pretty face to look at, a tight body … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Being very Intelligent made a potential mate less attractive. Kindness and Physical Attractiveness did notIf high intelligence doesn't translate to considerable social status and wealth, it doesn't tilt the scales in your favor to any significant extent in the context of dating/mating. It's ultimately just one of many traits and far from the most important one. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/26 07:53 PM |
| 2 | "Males with a larger penis were rated as being relatively more attractive."That's common knowledge. Bigger is usually better. That being said, if something is not immediately discernible, it's effect ain't really that much. If a guy is attractive, even if he has a barely average penis he'd be fine, unless he has a micropenis or something. If the guy is ugly, even if he has a huge penis, it wouldn't change much, since he'll rarely even get the opportunity to use it. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/26 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Studies find that as many as 15-22% of people in relationships feel indifferent toward their partner (i.e., they don't have strong positive or negative feelings). Indifference is linked to lower relationship wellbeing by contributing to boredom, low intimacy, and a desire to be with others.Yeah most people are mid and are dating mid people, not the people they actually really want. Indifference and dissatisfaction are bound to happen sooner or later, especially after familiarity and boredom sets in. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/26 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Women do not peak in their 20sOlder women are less fit for healthy long term relationships. More set in their ways, their character is more rigid, they are more bitter and jaded and have more unresolved issues due to past failed relationships and short term flings. But even hypothetically they were more mature and more prepared for healthy relationships, that wouldn't change much. Those things can't make up for diminished physical attractiveness. Beauty is what men put most of their efforts to acquire. Most men end up with t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/26 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Younger women are just more attractive.Younger people are more physically attractive and desirable on average, that's just a fact. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. When there is a considerable difference in attractiveness, the less attractive person will have to give the younger person the royal treatment - they'll have to take more initiative, put more effort, take more risk, be more invested, and provide considerable social and financial benefits. And this exchange starts from the early stages of courting and continues throughou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/26 02:46 PM |
| – | Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worseA man that really wants a woman, essentially considers her a good deal, will put effort and go the extra mile. It's pretty evident. If the man doesn't really want the woman, in the vast majority of cases the outcome is already predetermined, regardless of her sleeping with him quickly or not. It's just that men are opportunistic and might sleep with a woman they don't find that physically attractive, or a woman that they don't hold in high esteem or a woman they don't like at all, if it requires… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Being a provider male is simpingYou're only a simp if you put a lot of time, effort and money into it, get nothing in return and have nothing to show for it. A rich mediocre looking "simp" that sleeps with, dates and has kids with a model, a woman of higher genetic quality essentially, isn't a simp because he is winning. He just happens to trade wealth for beauty. An equivalent exchange of value. A lot of this crap is male intrasexual competition. People just don't like to see less attractive, but richer, men win in the mating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 01:59 PM |
| -1 | Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+The answer in this case is always money. It's no grand mystery. A young hot woman isn't dating a less attractive man, whether it's due to him being born inherently mediocre looking or due to the deterioration of his former appearance that comes with aging, without getting some kind of compensation from him. When there is a considerable gap in physical attractiveness, in the overwhelming majority of cases it's money etc. The less attractive, in this case older man, provides the woman significant … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 12:59 PM |
| 1 | People aren’t afraid of commitment in 2026, they’re afraid of bad commitmentSome exceptions exist, that's why I said in the vast majority of cases. Also, physical attractiveness is the most important metric, but not the only metric. If the woman is mentally challenged and mentally ill, or has been with half the town, or is a single mom with multiple kids, or whatever else, can considerably hurt her odds of success. I don't share the opinion that men effortlessly sleep around with the most desirable women they can get. Yeah obviously ideally they want to sleep around wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 02:16 PM |
| 3 | People aren’t afraid of commitment in 2026, they’re afraid of bad commitmentMen aren't afraid of commitment. In the vast majority of cases, it's not like he doesn't want to commit to anyone, he just doesn't want to commit to the specific woman he is involved with. He doesn't consider her a good deal, so he doesn't want to fully commit, put effort and invest in her. She's just a temporary placeholder for no strings attached easy sex, or a temporary short term girlfriend. If a woman he really wants comes along the next day, he'll commit quite easily to her. Let's be hones… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 12:17 PM |
| 1 | High value men mostly end up with high value women>Beautiful woman that is a waitress >Successful, educated, average looking woman If the man can get the first one, he rarely if ever picks the second one. The only reason it doesn't happen as often is because you need considerable amounts of status and money to have enough leverage and get with a person that is considerably more attractive than you, and most men will not get to that level in their lives. And those who do, due to success taking a significant amount of time, will already be paired… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 09:08 PM |
| – | The Delusion from Manosphere guys, that only beautiful Women have good Dating Options, and the other Women just get pump and dumped is laughable.Yeah, that's not reality at all. The math ain't mathing. The ratio is close to 1:1. 105 men are born for every 100 woman, which means the equivalent of a woman in the 50th percentile of female attractiveness is a man in the 52nd percentile of male attractiveness, that's a very marginal advantage. It's common sense that people at the top of the totem pole have the first and the best pick, not the people in the middle. That's pretty much why most people in relationships are generally within the sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 08:35 PM |
| 8 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenMen's and women's prime are when they are 20-25 years old. Also, cellular deterioration starts in your mid 20s biologically. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous. Older people are by nature and biology less fit for longterm mating and reproduction, that's why it gets harder and harder as people age. Mating and reproduction is a young person's game, not for someone that is a few years away from middle age. People get less desirable with age, their realistic dating pool also gets less desirable with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 09:11 AM |
| 3 | If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options.The average woman only has more options than the average man when it comes to short term flings and casual sex, not longterm relationships. And that's because most men drop their standards, including physical ones, quite precipitously for easy casual sex if it takes little to no effort and investment with them. If anything what drives this discrepancy is the more desirable guys, leveraging their excess desirability, to engage in low effort low investment opportunistic casual sex with less desira… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Dating is asymmetric by nature.What is even considered hypergamy? A woman making 50k/year dating a guy that makes 70-75k/year? They are more or less in the same socioeconomic bracket. Women who date considerably up in socioeconomic status, usually down down in beauty/looks. For example these are are not women in the the 50th percentile of female attractiveness dating men in the 50th percentile of male attractiveness. The women rank higher than 50th percentile compared to other women. Usually there is no charity when it comes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 07:51 AM |
| 0 | Dating isn’t about what you deserve. It’s about what you’re attracted to.Leagues definitely exist. Men in the 50th percentile of male attractiveness usually end up with women in the 50th percentile of female attractiveness and vice versa. The ratio is very close to 1:1, so for monogamous pairings there is not much leeway. That's why the man and the woman in the vast majority of couples are more or less matched in physical attractiveness. Exceptions of course exist, but are quite rare. Essentially it boils down to someone who is rich that is dating someone who is cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 08:45 PM |
| 3 | Dating single Mother's is a massive "L" For men.Most men don't want to waste their money and time taking care of another man's kids. They also don't want to shoulder extra stress and responsibility for another man's kids. All those resources could have gone to your own kids instead to improve their outcome in life or just used on yourself. The same applies to the mother as well. She'll have to split her attention, time and resources between your kids and the other guy's kids. So unless her kids are out of sight out of mind and it stays that w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 08:29 PM |
| – | Why don’t men have a body positivity movement?Men don't really care much about their appearance or how their appearance is perceived, especially when it comes to how their appearance is perceived by other men. Men only care about their appearance because they know it matters a lot to women, especially women they actually want, when it comes to sexual and romantic relationships. Some nonsense body positivity movement titled "short kings are beautiful" ain't going to make any difference. It's not like it can convince the hot women to find sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/26 11:43 AM |
| 0 | What do you value?I prioritize physical attractiveness, especially facial attractiveness, for longterm relationships. Otherwise, I can't get get invested in them in any serious romantic way, even if she has a good personality, millions of dollars in the bank, high intellect, is a virginal virtuous maiden and has a banging body. Personality would be second. Her finances would be dead last. So even if I had little money and she had little money, I'd rather work like a dog, struggle to make ends meet, and be with a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/26 03:50 AM |
| 1 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?To know the true patterns and behaviors of a group, you should look at the people that stand at the top of the totem pole, where there is no constraint of choice and are able to act exactly how they wanna act. Men, when it takes little to no effort and investment, are willing to sleep with a larger number of women compared to the woman they want to date, that's why men drop their standards precipitously for casual sex. That applies to all men, it's just that the most desirable men can pull it of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 07:43 AM |
| – | The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regardedNormal people don't care much and don't waste mental resources and time on what random people are doing, this is mostly an online issue. As long as the parties involved are 18+ and consenting adults, it's noone else's business really. People should stop getting baited and triggered about this nonsense. A young hot woman dating an much older/less physically attractive man in the overwhelming majority of cases is primarily dating him for the financial, social and status benefits she can get from h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 08:53 AM |
| 1 | If women want to see certain changes in men, they should reward the men who embody that idealYou'll get more of what you sexually reward and less of what you sexually don't reward. It's that simple really. If women collectively generally pick a certain type of guy, most men would try to emulate that type of guy because it works and has higher likelihood of success. Ultimately, the goal of every mammalian species, including the homo sapiens, is sex and reproduction. That's the main quest in life, regardless of what people claim. Everything else is generally a luxury pursuit. Every status… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 01:02 AM |
| 3 | I Don’t Agree That Men are Invisible to Women.Invisible to women means invisible from a mating perspective. It's that simple really. People here will argue just about anything just for the sake of it or try to spin and change the argument to start talking about something completely irrelevant. Just like "male loneliness epidemic" is lack of romantic/sexual relationships, not lack of friends. People are being too dense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Feminists will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to avoid admitting that women objectify themselves whenever it's convenient, and would rather demonize male sexuality instead.People care about their appearance in order to ultimately attract more mates, especially more desirable mates. That goes for both men and women. No matter how much someone tries to spin it or pretend that's not it. Whether it's been done subconsciously or consciously, intentionally or unintentionally, that's the purpose of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/26 10:10 PM |
| 3 | The term "ran-though" needs to end.Yeah, they'll now call them promiscuous. So what changed exactly? Does a fancier word or description suit your tastes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 08:08 AM |
| 6 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenSo their high standards are no single mothers, no fat women and no sluts? Is this considered a high standard nowadays? No woman is born fat, a slut or a single mother. It's their decision to engage in all these things. All they need literally to not be any of those things is some restraint. Also, if a woman is not a slut, a single mother and not fat is suddenly considered to be in the top percent of women? Hilarious. Now if men wanted a white, blonde, blue eyed, young, 5'9, toned, woman with a n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 05:38 AM |
| 3 | The term "ran-though" needs to end.Yeah just like people talk shit about their boss sometimes when he is not around. Who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 05:19 AM |
| 3 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)The ultimate goal of life for every living organism is reproduction. That goes for every mammalian species, including the homo sapiens. The body is a vessel for your genes. The vessel technically only needs to stay alive, thus needing water, food etc, till it manages to reproduces, hopefully many times and with more fit mates, and eventually passes on its genes to the next generation. If people purposefully decide not to reproduce, for whatever reason, that's their decision. Their genes essentia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Men, why are you surprised that attractive women are attracted to attractive men af/bb? And should women feel the same?I am not surprised at all. If a man wants a considerably more attractive woman than what he can otherwise get, he'll probably have to offer her significant social and financial benefits for her to consider him. It's an equivalent exchange of value. The men who could actually date very physically attractive women in their youth aren't ending up with "wife material" mids that have a good personality and high IQ. They usually end up with... a very physically attractive woman. Men of course prioriti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 05:07 AM |
| – | Dating older men (like 10 plus years older) is simply a bad deal for most womenIt's up for the woman to decide. Women date older men(that are on average less physically attractive) or even men their age that are less physically attractive generally for the social and financial benefits. Most women are making average wage. The guy probably needs to be rich but he doesn't need to be a billionaire to have enough leverage to trade wealth/status for beauty/youth/fertility. The average young high fashion model in NYC makes average wage for example, she's not gisele or adriana. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 04:34 AM |
| 4 | The term "ran-though" needs to end.Ridiculous response. Men aren't going to call this hypothetical woman "run through" to her face. Only among their buddies behind close doors or online under the guise of anonymity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 04:19 AM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardYounger women are on average more attractive. Even the most attractive 33 year old supermodels were more attractive at 23. Younger women are more desirable and have more options, so in reality they can and are by default more selective and picky, especially when it comes to superficial traits. For a man to get a much younger/hotter woman relative to himself, he has to have considerable social capital, money and social status to leverage and compensate for his lack of physical attractiveness. So … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 04:50 PM |
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