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There's plenty of movements that were better and served a purpose and then went downhill by a combination of internal and external forces. Online atheism (I'm an atheist) is a good example. ​ Regarding theredpill here, it has been totally banned by reddit and also attacked multiple times. Also, look at what feminists and extreme liberals did to anyone that was upset at all about not getting laid. Now, unattractive men are supposed to just suffer in silence or be likened to school shooters. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:38 PM
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at one time, there was a lot more to it than just grifters, there were people that put out massive amounts of content for free and anonymously I didn't act like they were the first to ever say this, did I? In fact, I at least implied that it was around but they helped to popularize it, if not in some part due to them causing a controversy which caused people examine and comment on the movement. I somewhat agree with you that now that my eyes have been opened, that a lot of this now seems like co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:05 PM
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Men's rights/TRP/etc were much bigger a few years back but the whole thing seems to have imploded. It drew controversy and discussion of ideas that were repressed or ignored. It was eventually attacked by SJWs and they tried to cancel it. In fact, I commented on TRP the other day for the first time and was insta-banned by several subs here that monitor any user that posts there and then blocks them. ​ There are videos on youtube talking about aspects of it and mentioning it by name with millions…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:29 PM
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It's partly anti-slut defense and also having power. It goes so far that many women won't even compliment a guy that is above average that they are dating. ​ A youtuber once comment "a lot of women are not good at their sexuality" and I think this is true, but they usually blame society or men for this. For instance, I've had several GFs that were tough to get to orgasm and they refused to tell me anything and thought I should just get it (as if all women are the same in that department). They p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:02 PM
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I'd suggest maybe you just aren't good at explaining things in a clear way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:53 PM
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You're just being a Monday morning QB. The red pill and manosphere has been going on long before you were probably aware of it. And a lot of men prior to that didn't see through the BS that culture always pushed on men. The manosphere got people talking about all this stuff way more, even if the people doing so didn't mention them. So way more men now get it than before. But you want to pretend it was always common sense. Or maybe it was always common sense to you or a smaller percentage. Your v…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:51 PM
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Yeah, it's like now that the redpill and others have explained the feminine mystique and how it is kind of BS ​ the blue pillers or some such jump out of the bushes and say "well why wasn't all that stuff obvious to you as lies to begin with like it was for us?" ​ Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:46 PM
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And so they repress that information, and then when men are perturbed by this then we are to blame as well for not "just getting it" and seeing their lies for what they are....it's dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:40 PM
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no, your viewpoint and logic isn't specified enough to put handles on it so that it can be addresses....then you complain when people actually tease out your argument for you so that it can be formally discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:38 PM
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again, you're blaming people for not seeing as obvious lies they were told since they were toddlers...and lies that other people still believe...it's somehow wrong to point all this out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:37 PM
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I didn't say it was not a culprit, if you read what I said carefully. Obviously, it is part of the puzzle and a foundational one. I'm saying that it was not as disruptive to society and male-female dynamics until all the other pieces fell into place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:13 PM
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Online dating isn't totally the culprit. I did Match.com back when it was kind of shameful to admit and you had to pay $30 a month and we all used flip phones. A lot of the sins of the current scenario were present, but to be on their despite the stigma and pay for the experience meant most people were semi-serious about it. The free and popular apps on the ever present internet connected smart phone and the widespread popularity of it is what poured gasoline all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:43 AM
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Did I in anyway state that it is a good thing or that people should try to do it? No. I do think it sometimes can be necessary in life, and honestly sometimes it might be a good thing (parents manipulate their kids all the time to do the right thing). Here's the thing, you have a mental block that only people on your team can be smart or decent people. You also aren't interested in having an honest discussion with someone that disagrees with you and maybe learning, you just want to win and confi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:32 PM
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Nope, I'm simply trying to get you to realize it is a matter of degrees. Of course, there is a level at which it is too much, and also a level which even the HOLY YOU is participating in it. Your perspective is obviously devoid of any such nuance. ​ Good ahead and throw slurs and act like they are arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:21 PM
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No, you need a class in logic and a commitment to self-honesty and growth. ​ I did not say "everyone lies/manipulates all the time." I said everyone does, which would entail simply "at some times." ​ You have admitted that you do lie at times, just not all the time, therefore you have admitted that you sometimes manipulate people, and you have basically admitted that my original statement is correct. ​ I want you to consider that you think all men are dumb and that men on reddit that disagree wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:06 PM
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It's the truth. Crap is not an argument. ​ You're like someone claiming that they never lie. Bullshit. You tell small lies probably almost every day. ​ Have you ever lied? If you say no, then I'm going to laugh in your face. What do you think a lie is if not a manipulation? ​ A lot of young people are the product of a participation trophy society that tells them they are brilliant when they are not. You simply overestimate yourself and are not interested in actually becoming a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:55 PM
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Honestly, everyone is manipulating people on some level. If you don't see that in yourself, then you're either the Buddha or self-deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:45 PM
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Good deal, I agree with this. ​ I just got flashbacks of Oprah et al telling women that their emotions are basically the best thing in the Universe and to ignore everything in favor of them. Which is basically ridiculous advice that can only be followed by someone that is benefitting from countless past generations that did not follow this same advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:35 PM
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Sure, your emotions are useful. However, I don't get the sense that you realize what they actually are, which is the preferences and urges of our more animalistic instincts coming into being. Dogs have emotions, most sufficiently complex animals do, and it was guides their day to day seeking of various things that satiate them. They are the most primitive parts of ourselves that are now celebrated as enlightenment in a way that is somewhat non-sensical at time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:02 PM
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Do you think this might have something to do with average physical size and also masculinity (testosterone levels)?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:51 PM
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I wouldn't take this too far. ​ I currently consider myself pretty neurotypical (I guess it is a spectrum). But my parents were both raised by WW2 veterans with PTSD, and I had a bad stutter as a child that I've overcome. This caused in me strong social anxiety that I don't think was genetic because it is now totally gone (at least in hindsight I consider this the cause but it is impossible to know for sure). ​ It wasn't until I was around 30 that I overcame this and was able to really effective…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:18 PM
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Everyone has to learn something new at some point in their lives. What I mean is, if someone has knowledge A, then by definition there was a time when they did not have knowledge A. It wasn't until my 30s until I learned how to tease women in a platonic way without going too far and how to open up a little without going too far. Then add in a splash of masculinity and confidence, and it's basically female catnip and most women will really like being around you even as just friends/co-workers. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:13 PM
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Complexity is so overrated. Here's an abstract take on it. ​ In complex systems, any additional feature tacked on can potentially interact with all previous components. This can create what is sometimes termed "combinatorial explosion". For instance, if you have a system with 3 interacting elements, then you might say there are 3 x 2 = 6 interactions (if A interacting with B is distinct from B interacting with A and A does not interact with A). Increase that to 4 elements and it doubles to 4 x 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 04:59 PM
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I have 2 very close male friends that I've known since childhood that are also close friends with each other. ​ Both of these guys are married. In both cases, their wives are 100% threatened by the bond that we share and do little things to disrupt it. Or big things, like the worst of the wives often insinuating that we are all secretly gay (in a joke that is not a joke). ​ It seems that they want to be their husband's only source of emotional comfort so that they gain more control.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:58 PM
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Which statement? ​ The first is because I feel that love is somewhat sacrificial and protective on some level and about the intrinsic traits of the person. I never felt cherished by a neurotypical woman that I dated. It was too much about her and her needs. ​ As far as the autistic woman, she just wasn't overly emotional in a stereotypical female way. In some odd way, it's like she could shut off her emotional rollercoaster and just see me as I truly am.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:55 PM
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No crap You read my post and thought I didn’t understand that? But if someone has really dumb aims that they work logically towards Then that does not reflect upon their meta-awareness? As stated, this entire thing is just going to be people using fluid and hidden definition to help their argument And as usual, people on Reddit think they are super smart because they might be in the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:48 PM
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The default psychological setting is to be more feminine I don’t think most therapists understand men or want to or want to help them become strong men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:45 PM
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Most illegal immigrants are young men from strange cultures It will mostly increase the number of sexual assault as Europe has seen It might help out some older cat lady types though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:44 PM
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If acting callously to achieve your goal is logical, Ted Bundy was logical Or someone that sacrifices everything for their love of stamp collecting is also logical We’d have to carefully define our terms and then get into decision theory to discuss this properly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:43 PM
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I’m straight as hell but I’ve often envied gay men They get to feel the romantic love of a man which from a healthy man is what people actually define as love Men and women love differently and female romantic love does not feel like true love to me The only exception was a girl I dated on the autism spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:40 PM
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The basis of our society is rooted in the biological truth that lower class men should be disposable utilities (from an evolutionary perspective, I’m not saying I agree). To challenge that is to challenge the religious beliefs of someone that built their entire lives on religion. There is no way they can accept it easily because it will remove the foundations of their lives. By the way, both pills are wrong. It’s just that blue pill is so wrong that it is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:37 PM
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This is BS. Maybe you just aren’t very physically attractive. I’m probably about a 7 in the face but taller than average and fit. Probably an 8 body wise. If I go out in a nice suit and/or borrow a friend’s sports car, then the increase in female attention is hilarious. I’m literally eye fucked in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:34 PM
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Bad social anxiety can make someone appear on the spectrum when they are not and also prevent them from learning effectively from social situations. But of course I don’t want to interfere with the male bashing. It’s easy to paint your opponent with a dark brush. For instance, half the extreme feminists I know appear to have borderline personality disorder. A lot of jaded men weren’t jaded long ago but they went for the prettiest and smartest woman they could find and didn’t properly weight them…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:28 PM
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I graduate HS in the mid 90s, so a bit of a different era than you experienced. I’m sure you’ve seen enough movies from the 80s and 90s to get a sense of typical female attire. If actresses were wearing big sweaters and jeans with some room in them, then you can guess that typical women did the same. I’ve seen people online dispute this and act like things haven’t changed. We kind of have the receipts on this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:01 AM
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They have been told by feminists and women’s magazines that men no longer care if a woman was highly promiscuous and if they do care then they aren’t right for them anyways This sounds good and so women are more likely to use sex either to get a man, get attention, or try to fix an emotional problem They do not realize (or realize when it is too late) that outside of a subset of men, that higher value men that can do better do care but have learned to never say it without anonymity because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:58 PM
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Life is easy enough that women no longer need men and use the gov’t as a surrogate as needed for provisions It’s of course changed things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:40 PM
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Hell no The exact opposite I must have written very poorly Gen X guys remember when women usually had modesty and being overly promiscuous wasn’t supposed to be celebrated and women could go 3 months without sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:34 PM
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Women often think men are vending machines where they put sex tokens in and get relationships as a reward I’ve had women ask me to their house after a first date and then get mad when I later didn’t want to get serious and asked “well if you didn’t want to seriously date me then why did you sleep with me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:31 PM
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Which is funny because sleeping with you casually and admitting you routinely have slept with men casually is not the best path to a man wanting to commit and be exclusive This is for masculine Gen X men that aren’t part of a deviant urban subculture where people are constantly banging randos
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:58 PM
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If a woman wants kids and a family, then it’s super dumb to wait a long time until the only guys left are either unattractive or don’t want a family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:55 PM
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Do you realize you are actually selecting for intelligence and social dominance?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:20 PM
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No Men often want women to have realistic standards Then, the men she dates will be on her level, she’s happy, and she isn’t settling at all What men don’t like is a 4 thinking she’s a 7 because she once got banged by a 9 and now she feels she is better than her current boyfriend who is a 6 In other words, ladies, pull your head out of the fantasy that has been created for you in order to manipulate and placate you in various ways I know it must be comfy in there though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:12 PM
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I’m not triggered, I’m just imagining you thinking these things and it’s just annoying is all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:02 PM
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Sadly, it’s often the same with platonic friendships If you are usually the one to reach out to someone, then they take you for granted until you slow down and then they will pick up the slack and reach out to you more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:54 PM
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Women want men to open up so that they can judge them for their inner self Women don’t even know this is the evolutionary reason for what they think is a good desire on their part How would it ever be to a woman’s genetic advantage for a weak man to conceal that from her? This is the same reason most people love gossip, it’s genetically advantageous to know people’s personal lives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:45 PM
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Most women want a character in a movie or book and are too self-absorbed to realize this, want to change it, and then actually change it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:41 PM
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Yep. I’m not red pulled (I’m no pilled) but I used to read red pill and mgtow stuff and I learned some things Anyways, a red pill guy was bragging that his dog was ran over and killed in front of him and he was proud he didn’t cry over it in front of his GF I remember feeling really sad for humans It’s in part because I know that deep down a lot of women would prefer their man not to cry like that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:40 PM
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Sounds like you need to be able to call yourself on your own BS
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:35 PM
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This sounds like a cope You want chasing because it validates your worth and you spin that as masculinity in order to not realize it is about something you lack within yourself I guess you can spin it as “masculine men have high testosterone, high testosterone men are super horny, high testosterone men go after what they want, when a high testosterone sees me then he wants me and then tries to get me” etc But I’m just calling BS on your whole comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:34 PM
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It is strangely difficult for many men to realize that just because your body physiologically makes you to think sex is a really big deal that this doesn’t actually make sex a really big deal in an objective sense If you asked many men “would you rather cure cancer or sleep with (insert woman of their dreams)?”….they’d choose the dumb answer or at least have to think about it too long. If you asked them why sex is so existentially important for them, they would resort to some sort of circularity…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:31 PM
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In what world would having plenty of women you’re not interested in want you (or you simply abstain) be a bad thing? One where my life’s goal is to get my penis wet as much as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:40 PM
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Surf instructor is the same reason why personal trainers score a lot They are also having to touch the woman to spot and guide them So the personal space barrier is erased early on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:35 PM
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That’s how mentally I’ll women tend to start and sustain relationships…..putting out early, often, and well (at first, before the trap has sprung) This and general lack of boundaries is why “crazy girl sex is hot” is a thing in culture
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:33 PM
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Not always There’s many men that are voluntarily celibate A lot of people that are a walking hardon or want to think men are can’t grasp that though I’ve probably rejected more women in the past couple years than the average man beds in a lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:23 PM
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I’m sure guys do this to women, but when I’ve rejected women romantically they typically act mad at me and I’ve been called gay twice to my face in public over it. The two women women that called me gay were legit bat shit crazy though. This coincides with them not expecting or dealing with rejection, as you noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:20 PM
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Does a bear poop in the woods? It does not shock anyone to hear a rich man falling for his beautiful secretary. In comparison, how many female lawyers would consider marrying the janitor at work? She might shag him privately if he’s super hot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:56 PM
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You’d have us not discuss the reality of female nature because it could make something bad happen (you fear, which is a fallacious argument from consequences) and it doesn’t sit well with you emotionally. You are the caricature you don’t want men to point towards. Now that’s irony. But really it is mostly a liberal traitor sticking your fingers in your ears selectively. Also, outside of here where it is a bunch of ill spirited harpies sniping at us, men are generally very open to discussion of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:50 PM
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A former supervisor is on the spectrum. Anyways, this guy needed rules to interpret social situations at all correctly and to know what to do. If you put him in a novel situation, he would flip through his mental files and execute the closest program he had. This resulted in him often making serious social errors. He is perhaps the most blue pulled person I’ve ever met. Once, a female co-worker asked to speak with me alone and he rudely inserted himself acting as if he might need to defend her f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:45 PM
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Orgasm increases the chance of female pregnancy. It makes sense then that women are more likely to orgasm and become pregnant by very attractive men that likely have good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:36 PM
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A former custodian at work is a female from Egypt originally. Anytime someone did anything that didn’t sit well with her and involved her, she would claim racism to anyone that would listen. Another janitor switched vacuums with her without asking? They are racists, etc. I heard her call people racist for no reason at least once a week. I just stayed quiet because to disagree would be racist I’m sure. Grievance has now become currency. If you claim racism then no one wants to disagree or even en…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:31 PM
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Ok Thanks I understand better now I’m in my late 40s and grew up in a less urban area It was very different
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:37 PM
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What’s your general age range and what “scenes” or subcultures were you a part of?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:23 PM
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Gen X men that did not grow up in super liberal urban areas and didn’t settle down young are in a weird place We remember when normal women did not wear tights and a push bra with a tight tank top to the grocery store Back in the day, if I saw a woman dressed like that in public, I assumed she might be a sex worker I worked at a grocery store when 18, and if a woman walked in like that the male employees would take turns walking by to check her out Also, friends with benefits, sleeping with and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:17 PM
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Men are much more able to accept male nature and that some men are assholes and that we in general have our faults If you talk about female nature in the abstract, women will tend to take it as you are talking about THEM specifically and get upset and not be open to any of it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:05 PM
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Some of that might be apex fallacy Men have very slightly higher average ability in some areas and also men are more variable (bell curve is flatter with longer tails that are thicker at the extremes of idiot and genius) Now, overlay a male and female intelligence distribution Pick a threshold that is “above this the person is smart as fuck and can do almost anything they set their minds to mentally” I would say that is roughly a 140 IQ Draw a vertical line at 140 on those 2 overlaid distributio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:01 PM
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As long as you aren’t spying, I consider anything publicly available as fair game. Women now think you cyber stalk them because you look through their online posts that they freely posted for all to see. If you stop dating them because you realize they dated 20 other guys that same year just by scanning their Facebook, then you are suddenly a Soviet spy. However, if you looked and only found wholesome things, then they wouldn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:40 PM
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None of your friends went on real dates until 25? They all just hung out and banged? That’s weird to me. I grew up in a town of 25,000 though. I think that’s a little spoken thing. Urban folks behave very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:37 PM
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Most women don’t cheat is like saying most parachutes open One thing just becoming more aware has done is made me sense the signs of infidelity around me, and I’m often correct (like the married woman in my office that would sometimes take long lunches and I’d notice at the exact same time the building superintendent would leave and drive in the direction he lived nearby…I just saw it randomly when taking breaks…,yeah they were banging…I knew it months before it came out) If you count all infide…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:28 PM
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There is no reason to assume people will be good You should start in an agnostic state where you expect people you hardly know to be roughly average in all ways Then, as you learn more about them, you update your beliefs about them Assuming people will be good when you meet them is naive It might be a nicer way to live, but it is not rational
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:18 PM
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I m not into hookers But I think men are better able to love (as men define love) other humans that we are not genetically related to The majority of men will risk their life to save their woman from a burning house, the majority of women will run for help
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:16 PM
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I’d say the lack of evidence to not trust is not evidence to trust People that are dating exclusively should be acting in ways to actively build trust I went into a relationship having never had trust issues because I always dated stereotypically “good girls” that only dated one guy at a time and might not even kiss on a first date Then I met a woman that was kind of wild and exciting We dated exclusively for almost a year She never acted in a way to build trust (which is just acting like a norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:11 PM
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Given how our brain is structured, this is actually somewhat accurate We do have specialized areas and then the ability to synthesize Split brain cases are interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:59 PM
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Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you. I screwed up in that I was in school for a long time moving around, and thought I wanted an academic type (or professional, like vet etc) woman that didn’t have a strong desire for kids. Well, it so happens that low empathy and nurturing is correlated with alack of maternal instinct in women. So, I ended up dating a bunch of bitches that didn’t really care about me. If you have a tendency for overthinking, then don’t make the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:57 PM
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And also Decision theory Most arguments can be simplified by separating out How does the system work without your values involved? As in, if we do X then what are all the outcomes and the probability of each (and also what are the working parts…this can b social systems etc) How do different people value the possible outcomes from step 1? That’s just the basics of it Now, I see how people dip between the 2 areas…often to score cheap debate points Such as “I can’t believe that is how it works bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:13 PM
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A lot of super woke folks disagree with the face tat thing too Here’s their reasoning “You don’t know 100% that a face tat guy will be a bad worker compared to a guy that looks highly professional” Their whole argument is based upon a lack of 100% certainty in life They are selectively against making probabilistic judgments (when it wouldn’t help them or their cause) They don’t get that the rest of us don’t have endless time to waste trying everyone out and learning all about everyone It’s becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:18 PM
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It’s partly what your appearance says about your decision making. Let’s say I have a business and I want to hire someone to work behind the scenes in a position of trust. I’m NOT hiring the person with YOLO tattoo’d on their forehead. It has nothing to do with ink causing behaviors. It’s that they knew society would judge them for that and they did it anyway. So, they either make bad decisions or they don’t care what people think. Everyone talks a good game about not caring what anyone thinks at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:09 PM
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Men absolutely weed out women they think are more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:07 PM
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Just look at how female teachers that sleep with students are treated in comparison to males It’s gross Women and others that don’t openly admit there are huge double standards can’t be taken seriously by a thinking person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:05 PM
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My former supervisor is on the autism spectrum He married a church girl that believed in traditional values and tolerance That’s the only way it worked for him because he, like most autistic people, eventually becomes annoying as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:03 PM
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This is interesting There’s probably more men isolated in an objective sense (like tracking number of positive interactions per day) However, I bet more women feel lonely Men are more built for it Look at whitetail bucks versus does Maybe I’m getting old and cranky….but most people get on my nerves and I usually prefer dogs or my own company
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:53 PM
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No He says muscle is more important than height That can’t really be quantified But what you wrote certainly doesn’t support his point I agree though a jacked dude of at least average height is better off than a gross guy slightly taller But this does not indicate that muscle is more important than height but rather there is some compensation between the 2 things You’d need to do very subtle stats to tease this apart along with a research study
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:40 PM
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To answer your question better It is obviously several things But one thing is that women can smell little man syndrome a mile away and they hate it Short guys don’t know this but when they get done acting like Napoleon and leave the room….women are the first ones to roll their eyes and smirk Tall men (that aren’t small in the pants or have some other issue) are naturally more confident and this is also catnip to females
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:25 PM
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Women love tall men Sorry It’s a fact of life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:21 PM
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This is pure cope-ium Many many many women will take a somewhat fit guy that is 6’2” over a jacked guy that is 5’8” Anyone that thinks otherwise is a short jacked guy trying to cope with the cards he was dealt I’m only 6 foot and at the gym I get twice as much female attention as short super jacked guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:07 PM
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Thanks Stay more aware in public though :) I never wear headphones or such 100% watching for crazy people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:42 PM
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Decisions are made at the individual level You would ask a single smart person to give up their personal advantage so that dummies as a collective don’t revolt against smarts as collective? Not realizing this is why our politics are a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:00 PM
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Good point Men are at least told to care I’m larger than most women I know they are afraid I don’t walk closely behind them at night because of this sensitivity That’s one of many ways I specifically kind to women Are women told to be kind towards men or sensitive in anyway? Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:32 PM
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Pick a trait you hav me that helps you Let’s say you’re very smart This gives you an advantage of dummies Do you care enough to give up part of that advantage. because you feel bad for the less fortunate? Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:31 PM
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A little bit of anger at the messiness of life is expected unless someone is a religious figure or LARPs at one I’m 47 Do random things PO me sometime and I call a friend and rant for 5 minutes? Yes It’s called being human A supposed unicorn or being of light is more likely a liar than a unicorn or being of light Why? There’s way more liars that would pretend to be a unicorn than there are unicorns That’s the irony..:most people’s green lights are red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:24 PM
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I’ll add in here that our culture has over corrected We used to shame sexual things that were okay and innate (like homosexuality) Now, if you say it turns you on then we are to celebrate it Let’s say I like to eat feces just because it’s Wednesday My family should be concerned But if I say “this is a sexual kink” then many will call me stunning and brave It’s like claiming something is sexual is supposed to make it immune from concern or judgement and also assumed innate and immutable But why s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:31 PM
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Agreed, but it’s kinda tone deaf to present them in certain contexts I don’t have this fetish….but imagine if I was super into Asian women but married to a Latina etc And had her doing all this stuff that made her feel like second fiddle
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:26 PM
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Wow A reasonable person Good to meet you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:25 PM
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Every woman I’ve been with long enough to know has gangbang and/or grape fantasies Even my first serious GF in college We were each other’s second partner (I had a fling before and she dated another guy for 6 months) She was 19 when we met and seemed very innocent and made me wait a while I was shocked when she wanted me to tie her up and blindfold, leave her house for 30 minutes, enter making it sound like a break in, and then have my way in a way that she wouldn’t know it was me (no kissing or…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:08 PM
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It seems like drunk and/or dysfunctional people that are emotionally dysregulated with low impulse control and self awareness might be a case study, since they are closer to the bone regarding running on instincts I’m thinking about women that tend to put men or their man in situations where there might be violence because of her (two male gorillas fighting for breeding access) I had a bat shit crazy ex like that (likely borderline), several times she seemed to enjoy getting me into confrontatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:57 PM
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It also used to be very common to meet someone at work to date. Now that is discouraged or forbidden at most career type jobs. Heck, marrying your secretary used to be common. Now that’s consider some sort of intersectional patriarchical hate crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:00 PM
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Men tend to have smaller social circles. So, if society overall becomes less social, then those that fall below a healthy threshold towards unhealthy will be mostly men. It’s like inflation hurting the already poor more so because they fall below the threshold of living wage more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:55 PM
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Also, why do you think women are more likely than men to be vocal during sex, enjoy other people hearing them/knowing they are having sex, doing it in public where they might get caught, being “taken” in a consensual way? Sure, men can enjoy this, some more than others. But it seems much more common in women. It ain’t a pretty thing to ponder and even discussing it will get you attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:53 PM
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Ok, it was more a rhetorical device meaning “It will not be easy” and for the exact reason I stated Lastly, your post doesn’t fit what is obviously the spirit of my statement What would fit it would be a woman fighting a lion to save her husband Not “brainwashed women kills herself and her kids so that hubby can better do the emperor’s weird bidding”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:10 PM
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I mean swat down their feeble cope attempts They’ll eventually get mad as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:50 PM
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I read about it but don’t have the studies OP seems to have the energy to dig via google though Basically, some researchers have had people read and judge who is wrong in narratives They then only change the sex of the folks in the story and note how people flip their conclusions If I recall, women have 5x in group bias (it being a female in story makes them right) and men have like a 2x bias against themselves and towards women Both sexes tend to cut women slack, just women more so This is evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:44 PM
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The exception that proves the rule Are you familiar with that? Basically, if you have to search hard to find a counter example, then you parading that around basically proves the generalization as true It’s like “hey guys, you’re wrong that NFL players cheat on their wives. I searched for 5 years and finally found one….derp!”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:28 PM
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We hold DNA from before we were even tribal in any sense We have the DNA and some mating preference/etc from before we split from what became chimps and even from before that That’s in part why humans are so screwed up Being human and around so many dumb MFers that basically run off emotions/instincts only..freaks me out some times….just look at how animalistic and brutal we can be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:10 PM
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A big part of this is that culture and family would tell women “don’t fall for the silver tongue devil that just wants in your pants”….it was even a movie trope. Now, a young adult female probably has a single mom Ho as a parent that is going to encourage her. The daughter might be fugly and fat and the mom is like “you’re beautiful and Chad Thundercock must want to get serious otherwise why would he pick you up in a tinted van and park with you under a bridge?” So, women aren’t choosing the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:03 PM
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Also Women were stolen by raiders that just killed their male partner and relatives and then had to breed with the raiders and try adapt to their new life This goes back millions of years and before we were modern humans We hold all that DNA that was selected for and not selected against after or drifted away
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:57 PM
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Women do love some men However, women do not love men in the same way men love women So, to men this often doesn’t seem like love because it does not match our definition For instance, men reflexively risk their lives for women they love Most women do not do that Get on google and try to find a story where a wife died trying to help her husband It will be difficult The search algorithm is so flooded by millions more stories of husbands dying for their wives that it will return those almost exclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:54 PM
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Doormats without any resources or other things going for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:47 PM
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Women want good genes and resources Guys with both are rare Hence the dual mating strategy Which men also have (but ours is more investing in wife material while still being tempted by easy sex without investment…hence why men are turned on by actually beautiful women and also women that simply look easy to bang) I’d say “real men” to women fully satisfy one or both of these So a ripped and gorgeous tough guy is a real man So is some guy that has money and makes it his life goal to take care of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:45 PM
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Neither
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:11 PM
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Do you see a difference between Getting into Harvard and part of the deal is attention Versus Dressing like a prostitute ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:07 PM
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A lot of them are I’d look at probability of a male being an attention whore Rather than the probability of a particular type of attention whore being male Do you see the difference? Spoiler: this is a basic thing even lower iq scientists get wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:04 PM
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You are being very specific Like warning women of some predator I’m talking very generally as in “This person comes from 3 generations of mentally I’ll trash….best to avoid” This isn’t something people talk about of Facebook Rather it is the reason that gossip developed as a thing….it has a good use
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:22 PM
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No It could also be partly that It is hardly a direct argument for this without the hidden assumption you are smuggling in (which is no underlying difference) If you think women don’t on average seek attention more If that isn’t just obvious Then you are very special
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:14 PM
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You re making the assumption that all pod casting is driven by attention Are there any other reasons someone might want to speak to other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:12 PM
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You point out that this happens within a community Exactly People have lost that largely It actually empowers toxic people because they can just move around and stay under the radar
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:05 PM
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I was getting at women like attention more than men Just using rhetorical questions Which sex is free to openly admit they live attention? I’ve had tons of women tell me they like attention I’ve never heard a straight man say this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:59 PM
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Both sexes lie about themselves during the initial process This is why the modern thing of moving to a strange city and investing in a stranger you know nothing about but what they ve shown you for a few months….is bizarre in a historical context In the past, you’d know if a woman’s family was a mess and she reacted by becoming a promiscuous problem drinker….because people talk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:53 PM
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Yes there are male attention seekers The questions might be How common is this behavior in men vs women? How accepted is this behavior? Attention seeking is generally considered somewhat feminine I know when I see a guy trying hard to get attention that the adjective “masculine” is not the first thing to come to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:51 PM
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More women willing to be house wives No matter what they say, everyone looks down on a house husband If I was one, I’d assume my wife would eventually cheat on me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:07 PM
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You’re simple or on the spectrum or trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:26 PM
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If a guy wants sex really bad and is ugly Move to or visit places where prostitution is legal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:32 PM
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Wanting to know about and then asking specifically for it in relation to a person is borderline cuckoldry Almost no men want to hear this crap or be like “suck it like you sucked Steve’s!” It’s weird and cringe As a guy I can see it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:27 PM
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Um Do you think the popularity and reaction to fiction doesn’t tell us something about society and people? For instance, when I joke about why didn’t the chick consider jumping off the door in Titanic to save the guy….the blank look on a female’s face is priceless. They hadn’t even considered that plot twist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:08 PM
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It sounds like this is more than you being okay with their past. You asked about and listened to sex stories about specific guys and then wanted the same thing. That’s borderline cuckold stuff. Most women are not okay with that because they know intuitively that cuckolds are usually weak and mentally ill (despite how many online say they aren’t…:sorry the act in itself is part of the definition….it’s like I don’t care why someone eats dog poop….you eat dog poop so you are insane by definition).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:38 PM
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Just ask an unattractive woman that is past menopause. They live in a world where men seem to have very little libido (towards them).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:30 PM
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Someone talks about women in general And you get offended as if she was talking about you specifically and think you not being like that disproves a generalization? Weak
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:55 PM
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They have a t shirt that says “I have the pussy so I make the rules” Women actually believe this and are surprised when a guy drops them on their ass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:47 PM
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When a man finds out his wife banged a bunch of dudes too quickly, it is similar to how a woman would feel if she found out her husband told 100 women he loved them, took 100 to special places, and proposes to them too. That natural ick is exactly what men feel imagining their special lady allowing d-bags to feel like they were using her for sex like a gutter snipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:01 PM
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This is in part because a primary draw of modern leftism is feeling like a good and smart person for no other reason than agreeing with folks that act like they are obviously the good and smart people. It’s lazy and smug.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:55 PM
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Most women do not understand men at all because they don’t care to and don’t have to. About as far as many get is thinking they can manipulate experienced middle aged men with their aging vagina like we are still in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:50 PM
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There is no reason to assume that as many men as women are bisexual….but it’s just society hiding them back. It probably is partly nature and nurture, like all things human, but there’s not the data to tease it apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:40 PM
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And then there was the survey that showed around 70% of women and men would cheat if guaranteed they wouldn’t get caught So even if you do everything right and manage not to pick a bad person that cheats on you Your likely prize is a partner that would cheat on you if they weren’t chicken shit about getting caught John Mellencamp once wrote Sometimes life is too ridiculous to live As an atheist, I know that none of this is designed for human happiness We aren’t adapted to live in bliss happily e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:41 PM
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Grad school is weird It’s a place people often go to prevent entering adult life It was that way for me in part
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:32 PM
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It’s genetic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:06 PM
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So you don’t think people change? You don’t think people hide parts of themselves at the beginning of things? You’re acting like I meet a woman and she hands me a little book that tells me the full truth of her now and into the future. I’m sure your response will be related to proper vetting….as if everyone coolly observes a person for 1 year and learns all about them prior to decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:05 PM
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I think we’ve blown too much smoke up the female behind regarding them being these enlightened creatures regarding emotions and relationships They go into any such interaction with the belief that they must be right and the male wrong in these areas
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:03 PM
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How prim and proper women talk amongst themselves often surprises me Our female janitor at work was fired She was well liked We got a new female janitor that is perfectly nice but obese I found out that several seemingly professional women in their 40s and 50s that were friends with the past janitor now call the new “that fat bitch” to the old janitor I guess as a sign of solidarity? The new lady had nothing to do with anything though and there is no reason to be like that I can tell you that in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:11 PM
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Men can lead a woman on that he wants to start a relationship He takes her out to dinner and charms her She sleeps with him on the third or fourth date and she’s all happy and then ghosts I consider that immoral because it is deceit And it is a form of using
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:51 PM
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Not like this I’m middle aged and perceptive There is sweet and then there is attention whore I just didn’t describe it vividly enough Simply sweet girls don’t shake their ass and eye fuck other men when in a relationship, especially when their SO is present This isn’t making eye contact with a smiling at someone you are interacting with That’s normal This is scanning the room and doing it and then the guy is enticed and tries to catch her alone to talk and such
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:07 PM
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I’ve been there I broke up with a gf in a bar parking lot over it once She would get this overly open persona in certain settings (overly swaying her hips while walking, making eye contact and smiling at strange men) I had one guy walk up to me once and ask if her and I wanted to leave and partner swap….just based on how she behaved (I guess like swinger couple bait gal or something) It wasn’t a good fit She thought she was just being friendly and having fun Really, her body language was that of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:26 PM
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It creates problems unless the guy or gal in the couple are assertive/alpha and are adept at identifying and avoiding/shutting down issues. If a reserved or smaller guys goes to the bar with his GF and she is dressed overly provocative, then more dominant men will hit on her right in front of her man. I’ve seen this cause issues in all sorts of social settings. It is just more forward and aggressive in crappy bars. I feel some dysfunctional women enjoy this dynamic and having men compete/fight o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:30 PM
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You aren’t smart enough to know when you are beaten and outclassed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:08 PM
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This same argument of yours can be applied to everything So it isn’t an argument Get called a gay pervert at work? And you don’t like that? Well why do you care about strangers at work and you must be a gay pervert anyway or you would not care And why do you care if people think you are gay? Are you a homophobe? See what I did there? I can LARP young dumb liberal easily because I used to be one You’re dense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:44 PM
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You’re dense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:03 PM
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You are engaging in a false dichotomy Your argument assumes that if you disprove pure selflessness and unconditionality that you then support (insert your favorite characterization like perhaps truly selfish) I can fully grant that the relationship is not perfectly selfless but you still have not support any specific statement of your own (like all relationships being equally conditional) Do I concede that there are selfish elements of parent to child care? Sure. But I still think you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:29 AM
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The form of your argument actually is (whether or not you realize it) The phenomenon has selfish aspects, therefore it is wholly selfish It’s just bad reasoning that you are wed to You’re the type that would make an equivalency between feeling good after helping someone versus feeling good after harming a person….it’s all the same and selfish since you felt good afterwards, right? I reasoned similar to you sometimes when much younger and it is now embarrassing…it’s lazy reasoning designed to app…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:33 PM
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I’d just chalk it up to you either being in an odd environment (like folks in San Fran thinking 25% of the population is LGBTQ), being willing to lie to score a point, or bad at observation and drawing appropriate conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:56 PM
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Reproduction having selfish aspects does not imply your overall conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:54 PM
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Because I’ve been alive over 40 years and have been observing reality At no point did I say or imply what you wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:38 PM
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People care about having both They usually want biological kids first But this preference does not imply the strong conclusion you are making (that all things, including kids, are viewed in the most cold utilitarian way..:.beneath it all) People often say stuff like you are to come off as “super smart edge lords” None of what you wrote is implied by evolution by natural selection (something everyone thinks they understand intuitively or based on one bad class….but most get wrong)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:37 PM
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I’ll speak for everyone and say Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:18 PM
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Well it’s true My mistake was giving you something to focus on other than what I said previous to that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:07 PM
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Maybe comedy isn’t your thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:01 PM
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This isn’t true Tons of men go for their looks match or below In fact, I would be worried to get into a serious relationship with a model-like woman She’s very likely to be entitled and self absorbed and tons of men will be hitting on her non stop
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:54 PM
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This is a version of the Pareto Principle often related to power distributions from stats If I say “80% of the work here is done by 20% of employees”, then that does not imply that some people do zero work Now, see if you can use that nugget of obvious to improve your views
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:44 PM
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I feel bad for your boyfriend You get to do what you want because it must be okay since your narcissistic butt likes it But you judge others for the interests you don’t understand You need to grow as a person You are like an ex supervisor that holds strong beliefs about things they know almost nothing about And big buck hunters are hardly slaughterers I let almost every animal I see walk right by
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:33 PM
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That’s evil as hell You are basically taking the utilitarian assumption that economists and psychologists only make to simplify things so that they can do math models and assuming it is actually true I hope you never have kids because you’re cynical in a dumb way that makes you feel smart
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:22 PM
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You should add that “healthy committed” is the minority of relationships Yeah, I agree that if you can find a decent and sane woman that they probably won’t switch like a light switch It just so happens that most modern women are bat shit crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:19 PM
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It makes total sense in light of cold hard reptilian logic If the woman is young and hot Of course she will abandon ship if she has 20 ships circling her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:13 PM
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Yep Three times I’ve had women switch off on me like a light switch over mundane shit All 3 in hindsight were crazy bitches….but that’s about half of all modern women Once it was because I was touched by something a family member did and I shed a few tears
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:11 PM
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What is it okay to be obsessed with according to your judgy ass? I love to bow hunt mature whitetail bucks, is they okay with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:08 PM
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If you are attractive to a woman and you do not put her on a pedestal so much so that you will not date her And she makes it obvious And she knows you are single She will often hate you for embarrassing and rejecting her and also cope by thinking you are gay and even telling people that They can’t wrap their heads around a middle aged man turning down sex They want to believe all men are like sex obsessed teenagers that they can manipulate with their overweight and old vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:06 PM
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And be bat shit crazy Yeah, all the women with 100 plus counts or escorts or sugar babies or in open relationships claim to be perfectly sane But that’s the thing……most people that think they are crazy really aren’t that crazy Call an actual crazy person crazy and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:21 PM
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They do but they mean It is harder for a woman to get good sex than it is a man to get average or below sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:09 AM
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There are no ugly studs There are countless ugly sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:12 PM
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This has been asked via a survey It was something like Would you have an affair if guaranteed not to get caught? From memory, like 68% of women said yes and like 72% of men Extremely depressing and one reason I don’t date Even if you stick together, your wife will eventually want another dude and not do it simply due to fear of getting caught
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:04 PM
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I believe we are in an over correction regarding human sexuality In the past, all gays were shamed and even killed Women that slept with one guy were sluts etc Most people agree this was bad The overcorrection is in part that now anything that is sexual is fine Imagine I like to go to the bar and piss off large men to beat me up Everyone should be concerned But what if I pay a woman to wipe my butt just as bad in a dungeon in order to get my wiener hard….that’s now fine and a healthy expression …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:35 AM
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Agreed I’ve never dated a virgin My first serious GF had 1 BF before me I don’t judge women for being normal I do judge them for being crazy and acting like that is the new normal Crazy people hardly ever think they are crazy People with depression, anxiety, or a few issues…not crazy but worry they are But try calling a chick with borderline personality disorder crazy…she ll slash your tires and boil your pet to prove she isn’t So all these swinger gangbang queens claiming to be functional…..I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:28 AM
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It is much more acceptable for a woman to ask another woman to grab a coffee or go shopping etc Men can only easily meet other men in a couples context or over a shared hobby If I meet a new guy at work and ask if he wants to grab a beer after work, chances are very high he is going to think I am gay and hitting on him This is 10x more true if one or both of you aren’t married with kids So everyone thinking that the primary male motivation is our dongs is a big deal This is the same reason peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:41 PM
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That would be awesome if it caught on and people started telling crazy bitches they have Loose pussy energy Or maybe Arbys roast beef energy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:28 PM
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I would say to treat people with decency. I’m not going around treating random people with “high regard” because most people don’t deserve that at all. I think treat someone with respect means decency to most people in this context I’d say the opposite of disrespect in this context is not respect but rather decency I’d say decency is just basic kindness and a lack of rudeness or other negative actions….but that is not high regard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:52 PM
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And this is why most neurotypical men have an innate disgust with the idea of committing to a promiscuous woman It’s because for most of human history female promiscuity was such a dumb move that only a crazy or desperate person would engage in it There were close to zero well adjusted and successful sluts around 70 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:48 PM
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If you want a relationship, then having a FWB is not going to help unless you are willing to lie. The Antifa members in skinny jeans and the women that love them (or whatever these weirdos on here are) will disagree but the vast majority of traditionally masculine men that aren’t soy boy baristas from San Fran will not get serious with a woman if they know she has a FWB when they first meet. Men have just learned not to say this out loud because a rad fem with purple hair will explain the patria…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:47 PM
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It is “dangerous knowledge” to not be spoken of…..but a lot of these relationships are mutually abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:44 PM
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How does the existence of abused women that put up with further abuse a way to discount my general advice to other men (assuming I’m not giving advice to abusers on how to find others to abuse…ya know for the sake of Christian charity)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:41 PM
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Lol You know as much about math as Dahmer does about dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:13 PM
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A lot of women considered cute have facial issues that would make them considered ugly men What I mean is you can imagine what their genetics would cause if they were XY (like a brother that seems obviously related) People act like you can’t do this or that “congrats, women make ugly men”….but they miss the point and don’t have a powerful enough thinkie meat behind their eyes Imagine a country girl with a smoking body, nice personality, and dresses sexy But she has slightly weak chin and cheekbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:09 PM
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Gay men do sometimes hook up with their female friends Gay men are often somewhat bi, are hedonistic enough to take pleasure, or are not as repulsed by women as straight men are by men Straight men very often have a physical revulsion to other men sexually, and this is not homophobia They figure that all gay men must view women the way they view men…this is largely false A lot of this confusion is caused by people making reification and map-territory mistakes and not knowing what that even is (l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:57 PM
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Yeah It cracks me up when women and other blue pillers take 2 ugly people being married as evidence that ugly women are attracted to ugly men and treat them well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:52 PM
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You need to internalize 2 things. Many people act VERY differently to different people. Men and women mostly compete in separate dominance hierarchies with their own rules and such. Ever have a woman being a bitch to other women subtly and men don’t see it? If you say no then you have no life experience. In other words, a lot of these men actually are kind of assholes to many other men or to women they aren’t attracted to. Are you struggling with the idea that men are especially nice to women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:17 PM
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No shit She was casually fucking 2 dudes….then Chad thundercock shows up….probably knows she is boning dudes causally and then waits his turn The sheer amount of hamstering to not feel used and promiscuous….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:10 PM
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This is why men should avoid women with significant childhood trauma, even if they claim to be okay now Most will hide it well for a while and love bomb Also, be cautious if a woman “out of your league” physically pursues you….crazy women know that men with options and high self respect won’t put up with them for long
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:06 PM
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Most cynics are disappointed idealists
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:23 PM
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I disagree Women have much lower testosterone and are only fertile a minority of the time They simply need a stronger stimulus at the right time…when that occurs the bs cope about social stuff goes out the window
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:22 PM
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Wow, you must have a cool life knowing all these rad super sluts getting their backs blown out by many top guys and then telling them all and locking down king Chad….who also totally doesn’t see her as a way to get into swinging Simplest explanation is that you are willing to lie or say anything to “win” here Also, you should figure out what “exception that proves the rule means” 6 foot and 6 figures by itself only means you are semi tall and are a good electrician or car salesman 6 figures in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:11 PM
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See my other comment It is obvious that the Earth being hit by an asteroid does not mean that other asteroids did not miss it Same with men A woman bangs 200 men and 1 sticks around and puts a ring on it….doesn’t mean anything about whether many men avoid that with them or not Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:09 PM
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You are purposefully obtuse and act like it is being clever Yeah they don’t avoid them when it comes to easy sex….duh Or things like work etc But when it comes to relationships, men do avoid them You’ll come back with “well a lot have boyfriends” No crap You don’t know how many men said nope until she found a low value man or someone that fetishized sluttiness etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:01 PM
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They are avoided for relationships by men with options
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:58 PM
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Borderlines are often promiscuous when single and very sexual at the beginning of relationships and females with this are basically toxic female traits turned to 11 with the knob ripped off Once they have their hooks in, they often manipulate with sex (giving and withholding)..,and if you’re dumb enough to marry one you might be stuck in a dead bedroom with the former or current town whore A fate worse than death for any man with self respect I think a lot of the stereotypes for high n count wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:52 PM
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I dated a woman that was likely mildly autistic Other than not liking to talk (which caused our breakup), she was the kindest and most understanding GF I’ve ever had and it isn’t even close
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:43 PM
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So your argument stripped to bare bones is that We cannot usefully explore whether certain facets of human thought and behavior are at least partly the product of evolution by natural selection and how they might have come about in the past and other related questions How are your beliefs substantively different than that? because what you seem to imply is dumb AF By the way, I watched when the push against evo psych happened A movement called atheism plus had these wokesters that hadn’t really …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:55 AM
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Because the modern woke somehow has to think that evolution stopped at the neck whenever it not stopping at the neck would entail something they don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:47 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:57 PM
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Have you met a range of adults? Humans are often incredibly illogical in some emotional issues This will not change due to humans improving individually It will be cultural changes that they conform to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:17 PM
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Because it blows up part of the romantic love narrative A lonely guy and girl making eye contact across a crowded room and become each other’s everything just sounds so much nicer than both people having FWBs when they meet or something
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:25 AM
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You’re wrong By your reasoning, then all of evolution by natural selection is prey to this critique You are saying we can’t make hypotheses about the past and then test then with historic or present day data and that is false The reason you are saying this is because evo psych says some ouchie things about men and women Feminists didn’t like this and they could not control it so they decided to come up with a BS reason to dismiss all of it Please explain why this is uniquely true for evo psych b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:17 AM
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Well let’s say you are the hottest guy in a 100 mile radius You have to work, eat, sleep, and workout to maintain your hotness That entails that you probably don’t have more than 5 or 10 FWBs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:47 AM
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Nope You don’t understand decision theory and should If you think there are only 2 sides and only one has any points at all I’m going to leave this subreddit because people here just aren’t interesting or nice to talk to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:11 PM
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Huh? Where did I mention forming groups and putting women in them for shame purposes or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:44 PM
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Also, your little caricature list is nothing to be proud of I can have respectful conversations with conservatives and independents that I disagree with, but not with modern liberals like you You’re just horrible to be around unless someone fully agrees with you So smug while having such a shallow understanding of the systems you hold deep beliefs about For instance, the knowledge most liberals have about energy and climate could fit in a brochure and was procured from watching a few TED talks…d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:12 PM
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How else will they groom them if they don’t find kids outside without parents around? I kid I kid…sort of
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:06 PM
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Well, I hold beliefs that neither “side” tends to have And I look at each issue separately The reason people cluster in two camps and we draw a line between them is because humans are deeply tribal and most people are dumb and want a leader and packaged set of beliefs You see tribalism even with people’s smart phone choice and the type of truck they drive So that’s why you see a clustering is because people are sheep and any organization that gains power and will survive tends to do this (create…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:05 PM
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Well, I certainly feel smarter than you based upon your comment Also, both sides do not have to be equally bad for someone to determine that neither are worthy of their respect or allegiance You do realize that the very idea of 2 sides (a one dimensional political line you place yourself along) is pretty dumb, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:51 PM
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Is this some meme thing for when moderates/independents state the obvious? The bar is pretty low when people are amused by typing with a mix of upper and lower case
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:40 PM
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I hear in Canada that third date is known as the “salad tossing date” since analingus is almost expected
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:26 PM
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Or flirts too much with other people/too much of an attention seeker
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:24 PM
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Some sort of activity is best where you have a mix of talking and also doing stuff Movies are bad because you just sit next to each other in silence Dinner is bad unless you both are conversationalists….otherwise any awkward silence will make one or both people feel like the other person isn’t into them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:23 PM
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That’s good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:16 PM
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I had a secure attachment style until I interacted with modern women post smart phone Now my attachment style is “stay the hell away from me because I value my peace of mind”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:08 PM
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I agree that several things have worked to over inflate the egos of many women….which hurts their awareness and empathy as well I’ve left several after they behaved horribly and they were shocked and mad If I’d acted like they had, I would expect the person to live and also be ashamed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:05 PM
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I figured by good liberals you meant Sam Seder and The young Turks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:59 PM
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Just don’t let them do that and try to include them in your activities and be honest about it all If they are that into you, then it will be okay Also, if your schedule allows it, working out right before or after work is easier to maintain If there is a gap in time then it feels more optional
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:25 PM
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Oh, I see, you listen to the good liberal sources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:18 PM
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You think it’s only right wing media that makes money and influences others via fear? Where did you hear that, MSNBC? The truth is that the media on both sides are equally propaganda machines Best thing I did during Covid was watch both sides and more independent journalists and then try my own fact checking It disgusted me and made me leave the Democratic Party and register as an independent (I was never a big joiner and now I want nothing to do with organized politics) Most people would rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:13 PM
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Lol I walked out of catholic confirmation and quit the church at age 12 or 13…well walked out after the end of the first class when they said we were there to make our adult decision and never went back Pissed everyone off in my family
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:35 PM
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No these top guys aren’t banging every single woman The exact numbers don’t matter It illustrates a point that is somewhat credible though I’d say the top slice is getting most of the online attention, however a lot of women might be waiting on their Chad that matched with them but he is never going to materialize Perhaps this helps explain the sexlessness common for both sexes now Average dudes getting passed up, average women swiping on men that don’t have time for them All I know is that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:33 PM
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The saddest thing is a lot of rural parents are becoming helicopter parents There’s nothing to do in the country but be outside and if you take that away from those kids then you are going to mess them up bad I grew up in a town of 25,000 people in a rural state I was outside by myself constantly from age 6 onward
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:28 PM
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You mean people that don’t like woke or people that are woke and freak out over dumb stuff (like a man was stronger than a woman in a show therefore patriarchy) and want all white people to feel guilty all the time? I think it is highly dependent upon where you live, your job, and social circle I work a STEM job in a town of 25,000 in the mid Atlantic area This is where I was born but I lived other places including a large city in NYS but not NYC for school etc There are woke people here but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:18 PM
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You are talking about a small slice of people that were mostly fundamentalist Christians Those people still think those things, but they are not allowed much access in the modern “public square” of social media, big tech, and all major media being blatantly liberal I’m an atheist and not pilled and a registered independent So what happened is those folks became marginalized a lot more over time and people are increasingly less religious Also, back then, liberals were actually closer to classic l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:06 PM
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Yep, I was alive for it The media causing a small panic is a point how?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:45 PM
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Go read another article written by one ideologue designed to affirm the beliefs of other ideologues on the same “team” It wasn’t a discussion, it was as you asserting that you’re right several different ways
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:40 PM
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Hopefully one day you’ll learn to call yourself on your own BS
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:29 PM
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Ok You can cherry pick me all you want You’re still wrong From the 80s until now, people have slowly become more sexual in dress and behavior Believe your mom and a few anecdotes so you can continue feeling right, or try to research it yourself with an open mind
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:07 PM
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Ok You keep going back to one example of the game show It wasn’t a big show, I’ve never heard of it I don’t want to google and watch now either Anyways, grunge girls still wore a lot of comfy jeans, t shirts, and flannels Maybe your mom is selectively remembering or sensed hearing this would make you happy I’d do a neutral image search of Grunge 90s And don’t add sexy or women in there Then just look and know that if a picture is popular and at the top of the search algorithm then it is likely a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:32 PM
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Humans are extremely packed with animalistic instinct That is a main function of our emotions and urges (to get us to do the instinctual thing) However, modern youth either don’t know this or it is actively scrubbed but to be fair humans have always been uncomfortable with this truth and do things like shave and such to hide who we are (ultra smart ape) Humans are deeply ingrained regarding sexual selection and mating strategy…going back to where some of these strategies pre-date us being human …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:55 PM
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Here’s your answer: This was fiction and a plot device for the writer People actually enjoyed entertainment back then and weren’t looking for how everything is problematic Literally, google any popular show (breaking bad, walking dead, etc) and put “is sexist” or “is racist” after it and you’ll get 100s of articles that are like “you know that one time Michone couldn’t beat a white man? Yeah we need to talk about that” As far as sex being everywhere and kids being exposed to these idea too early…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:39 PM
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This might have been true in large cities or in certain scenes….but in the rest of the USA this was not common I graduated high school in 1994 Also, women on average dressed much more conservatively than today Although it was edgy compared to the 80s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:35 PM
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Also I think you are going to extremes here Women don’t have a binary between Mr Smooth and Mr Creep….a socially awkward guy might want to believe this though He legit might be atrocious at this and copes by saying “well I guess I have to be perfect then!”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:20 PM
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Women hate awkwardness more than men So much so that it is primarily women and soy boys that have as part of their personality thinking it is interesting or funny to point it out as in “AaaaaaKkkkkkworddddd” like a valley girl PS all of society would be better off if unfunny people stopped trying so hard to be funny My thinking is that women highly value knowing what to do in social situations, and so they hate social awkwardness because, almost by definition, it is a situation where folks don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:13 PM
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An instinct such as hypergamy can exist alongside the effects of nurture/environment The 2 are not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:06 PM
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And it’s usually nature and nurture as you said
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:13 AM
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Sexual selection is well established Women and men both select sexual partners Do you think women try to select the best male they can just like any other animal seeking a mate? How much more evidence do you need to simply believe your eyes and common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:47 AM
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Also the vaginas of virgins and 60 year old escorts are the same because “that’s not how vaginas work……reeeeee reeeee”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:07 PM
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This is pretty good but you are missing something about evolution, which is ironic sense you kind of talked down to others We still carry a lot of genes from before we were human These traits are not removed unless a mutation arises to cause its removal And the trait sufficiently harms reproduction/survival that it’s removal will be selected for whenever that DNA mutation to do so arises Lastly, it takes a long time for all this to happen Women are usually hypergamous (I’m not saying nurture doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:01 PM
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One reason for such strong selection for intelligent is it is its own niche in sense And the increase in intelligence opens and expands this niche…..sorta like the smarter you are the more advanced civilization there is which increases the benefit of more smarts….rinse and repeat….it’s influencing the selecting environment, in part, similar to a termite have DNA to make mounds which changes the selecting environment Once you have a pretty large brain, you can keep getting smart without further h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:39 PM
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So, are you saying the liver-shop vac thing is dangerous or just that another meat might work better?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:31 AM
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I m not taking credit for anything personally I’m simply stating a fact Let’s say cloning becomes a thing and so only one sex is needed to have babies If men disappeared, humanity would collapse….all women on Earth combined simply don’t have the combined knowledge to actually run the systems that make modern life possible If women disappeared, material standard of living would go up (since in the aggregate women take more than they produce) but the hard part would be straight guys having to be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:15 AM
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It depends upon how it is said I was using ironically Which doesn’t translate It means that you actually don’t sound like fun Of course in real life around like minded people they are probably ok fun at parties If it is said plainly or with a devilish grin then it is either a dry statement of fact or the person might be flirting or actually being witty in a nice way, respectively
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:26 AM
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I see the issue here now I asked for a list out of curiosity, given the discussion People thought I was asking out of a need or want Nah, I’m good but thanks No way I’m doing anything i don’t want in order to meet more women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:26 AM
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Um….it’s an expression people use Here I use it because the person shuts down discussion related to why this subreddit exists As such it is not pro social Hence the comment It would be like going to a party and being anti why people go to them But leftists don’t like discussion when it is with someone with which they disagree, hence why they come here just to disagree and never learn anything from talking with someone they disagree with I bet most would have to google and disagree with what is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:52 AM
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Do you realize that if men had that attitude towards women what would happen? Long term of course men need women for population increase, but short term women would die or have horrible lives without men. Men do everything that women can’t. Hell, a guy named Earl even invented and patented the tampon for women. You’re probably a rad fem that thinks men and women are the same or that women would figure it out. Nope, it would be horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:16 AM
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I never said I was struggling I was just asking about hobbies because none of mine include women I did make pottery on a wheel for years, but I have a mild back injury now and pottery posture aggravates it (too much leaning forward while sitting) Also, if there wasn’t sex and offspring, then men and women would be around each other less…I don’t think that’s toxic if it’s true….but I would see the same women I do now because I’m not sleeping with any of them I guess anyone that asks a dating rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:37 AM
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Sure that works and how many people form social networks, but it is rather indirect and has nothing to do with a hobby in a sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:31 AM
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One issue is that a lot of hobbies have almost no women so any woman is surrounded or it is something women do with their man Competitive archery is one example, most women into it were introduced to it by husband etc The hobbies with an equal sex ratio are usually not as interesting to men Someone please list some hobbies both sexes like equally, I’m drawing a blank I mean we tend to not even like the same movies and music If it wasn’t for sex and reproduction, how much time would we actually s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:42 PM
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I think you are putting the cart before the horse somewhat A big reason these guys do okay is because they belong to a social circle related to the hobby Surfers do well with surfer chicks because they hang out where surfer chicks are at, it is less so because they look and dress like a surfer Tailoring your whole persona to one thing and in order to get chicks…is what is weird to me…maybe it’s because I’m older and an individualist I could never respect myself if I did as you say Also, once you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:20 PM
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I have 2 ride or die buddies I’ve known for over 30 years, they are also best friend with each other…so 3 of us Both of their wives are friendless and felt threatened by our bond and have both tried to disrupt it That is an abuse technique common to cults, isolation from outside support so that the cult (or in this case wife) becomes the only support and thus gains power I’d suggest no one here do that to anyone else It’s evil
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:54 PM
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Omg I bet you’re fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:39 PM
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You and I do not define words the same I take “care” and “matter” and other words to mean in this context “is an input to selection” which is the sensical definition here (unless you can come up with another clear definition for evaluation) You are defining them in a wrong way that is convenient to your argument An average woman probably won’t want a hot guy with mental retardation or a brain injury either…so how do you square that? I am acquainted with a guy that looks like a model and works ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:36 PM
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Ok, once again Many, many women are more attracted to a smart hot guy more than a dumb or average hot guy This is in fact being attracted to intelligence You are of course right that if a guy is deformed and stinky, then most women will pass him by even if he is the smartest guy on Earth So, you are looking at this in a very narrow way and just have to be right, when you aren’t It’s like saying “only tires matter for a car because you have to have tires to drive”…this is false
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:18 PM
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Because it causes issues And people should know how they and the world works and it has been somewhat quantified I’m sure you and others think about and worry about less important matters all the time So this seems like an odd place to “take a stand” for what does and doesn’t qualify as useful info
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:14 PM
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You’re wrong Many women care about it once you’ve met their looks threshold This is often posited as why women like witty men…because witty men are almost always smart You’re right that looks open the door though And it isn’t every woman, and a dumb one isn’t even smart enough to correctly identify intelligence Take it from someone that pretty regularly turns down women and can date at will….and also has an IQ that I won’t post here because people will think I’m lying or bragging….you’re viewing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:07 PM
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No You made the assumption Someone would likely assume it was a bad thing, so I was saying I’m not saying it was…I also was not saying it is good I was not doing a smarmy water cooler thing of “Well is that a baaaaaaddddd thing?” With a derpy grin
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:00 PM
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Shallow take Attractive people’s actions are interpreted differently If you think “that’s just inevitable because that’s what attraction means” then you are basically saying illogic shouldn’t be confronted with reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:23 PM
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It’s called the halo effect and cuts both ways They have presented scenarios of a crime to subjects and changed the picture Predictably, people are more likely to find conventionally attractive folks as not guilty The worst is flirting An ugly guy hitting on a woman is often considered sexual harassment whereas it isn’t for hot guys People in general often mistake their feelings for external reality and blame others for their feelings inappropriately But women are way worse at this on average an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:19 PM
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Yep I told a girl once “Let’s bump uglies” She thought I was asking for oral
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:00 PM
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Simply stating a fact doesn’t imply and opinion I wish more young folks and people here got that They often won’t accept an explanation that doesn’t make them feel good and assume the person giving it is endorsing it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:59 PM
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Yeah that’s more redneck-ish I’m taking showing up in shape, well groomed, but you are wearing jeans, decent shirt (name brand even), and then something like a Carhart barn jacket or a nice hiking jacket I’d never post dead animals somewhere to impress women Basically, don’t be metro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:34 PM
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This is false If you are physically attractive and smart, then many women will like you even more I’m middle aged and have dated a good bit, had many female friends, and seen a lot The current trope for “smart guy” is a super nerd that is on the spectrum There’s a lot of ultra intelligent people that are also socially adept and even hide it, learning how to deal with people well is just another problem they easily solve
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:31 PM
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I hunt and hike a lot and buy what I want for these hobbies If you dress casually but have on a pair of boots that an outdoorsy chick knows are $$$ and look nice, something like that is catnip….extra points if it isn’t a boot or brand that random people know exist (like Asolo boots) It’s masculine but draws attention to a shared interest and shows you probably aren’t poor
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:40 AM
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The dress thing is dependent upon the guy, the girl, and the area (it might not fit the guy’s vibe or make him self-conscious or look cringe like when a PUA has an autistic guy put a green stripe in his hair) Traditionally masculine men don’t tend to dress for attention and women that like those types of men seem to prefer their guy to be clean and groomed but not thinking about clothes very much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:02 AM
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Well yeah That’s why I picked the thing I thought was most interesting and didn’t mention anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:43 AM
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I mean a woman that is making eye contact with you from across a room or when not otherwise expected I don’t mean that a cashier looked me in the eyes while asking me paper or plastic bags Also, it is the timing and type of smile We can ask women here: If you are the type to indicate to a man that you’d be interested in talking with him, what do you do and how do you use your eyes? How about your smile?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:18 AM
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You could spin the robot thing into being cool and interesting and a sign of intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:55 PM
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It’s both The 2 are not mutually exclusive and feedback to each other People argue only side of a vicious cycle all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:53 PM
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There’s many ways to skin a cat And age and genetics changes your durability The main thing is to be consistent and stay in the gym and so you have to avoid injuries Plus a lot of gym guys are just cocky and dumb as hell You tell them you can’t do overhead presses because they hurt your shoulders, so you do various raises and other exercises instead They insist you must be doing it wrong because it doesn’t hurt their shoulders (they don’t know that certain shoulder geometries can cause this) Hal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:44 PM
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We are more used to harsh treatment all the way back to childhood The female brain has way more connections between the brain hemisphere and this is a double edged sword For these and other reasons, people are expected to be nicer to women, especially a hot woman has no idea what life is like for most men (and don’t care)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:27 PM
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Women do this in their own subtle way. If you find that a woman makes excuses to be near you or you see her where you are by coincidence, then that’s a sign they are giving you opportunities. Also, eye contact and smiles are approach signals. They just don’t wanna be the ones to walk over and start the actual convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:45 PM
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Truth be told, if he really likes it and doesn’t think you mind it or even like it, then he’s gonna ask about it a few times a month minimum (if he’s like every guy I’ve ever known…..yeah young guys talk about this stuff sometimes)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:14 PM
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Yep A lot of what we see is influenced by big tech etc It’s a feedback loop too The algorithms and people controlling them view the world, mess with people, this changes the world and then the AI/techies see this and react and adjust It’s sinister and weird and young people raised with a smart phone don’t care that much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:49 PM
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What if a guy legit has a very high iq (tested by psychologist etc) and doesn’t find talking with an average woman very interesting? Like he isn’t making it up and everything about his life screams it. Is he being arrogant according to you? You kinda act like exceptional people don’t exist, which is of course false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:46 PM
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It’s a deflection so that you can be into appearance without being called vain or shallow No, all this hair and makeup and clothing is an artistic expression Which might be true sometimes but also sometimes isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:05 PM
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Yeah You’ve really made me want to answer I’m saying what seems to work I’m not commenting about morals But I’m a guy that you sense isn’t on your team, so whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:44 PM
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Fingers, small toys, and your BF’s mouth and tongue Plenty of lube You have to start considering your ass a sexual organ and errogenous zone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:42 PM
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It only is if you enjoy it or at least it isn’t painful (and not in a hurts so good way) I wouldn’t want a woman doing it just for and in pain A lot of women try it when younger and nobody knows what they are doing and it hurts and they decide to never try again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:57 PM
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Sure that’s an indicator with a low false positive rate for her being into you I’d think in terms of false positive and false negative rates here and how you view risk and wasting time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:52 PM
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Yep High n count men or some men even fetishize it Be careful though because half those guys that get turned on by it might end up trying to swing or use you as a hotwife/cuck thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:22 PM
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The tried in true method that women use is Scrub your past of as much evidence as possible and then refuse to condescend to such a discussion, be vague, or lie This works unless the guy finds out, doesn’t like it, and is mad enough to leave There’s a reason this is so common It isn’t good for the guy though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:20 PM
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Here’s the elephant in the room If a woman enthusiastically deep throats, swallows, and takes it in the back door At least 25% of all men will become infatuated and fall in love It unlocks something primal in many guys When men say “crazy chicks are the best in bed” They don’t mean “they make the coolest faces and moans” They usually include at least one of the 3 acts i listed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:17 PM
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Again, you’re kind of circular You are defining wildly attractive based upon them sleeping with you quickly, as is OP What I think you are doing is called “affirming the consequent”. Basically, If the lamp is broken, the room is dark Does not necessarily always imply that The room is dark, therefore the lamp is broken Since there are other explanations for a dark room
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:12 PM
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Might as well put the odds in your favor I’m not saying anything is right or wrong…just outlining how others can affect you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:55 PM
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Nah, I’ve had women wildly attracted to me that waited until like the 3rd date for anything more than a kiss. It is totally possible that you were sometimes with a more reserved/lower notch count girl who was just more slowly getting her engine revved up for you. The women I’ve dated like this were usually better GFs too. Just keep in mind that you might be this mixed up some times. I can tell you from experience that I would have been wrong several times if I’d taken your approach. Lastly, skin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:19 PM
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The algorithms online have been shown to try to radicalize people because radicals spend more time online
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:09 PM
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And she sounds like a catty bitch too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:07 PM
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From a legal (and perhaps ethical) perspective, you should not in some situations. In most states, you can use justified force to end a threat. That’s why lawyers will counsel people on even what words to use on a 911 call. For instance, some breaks into your house. You can probably shoot them legally in your state, but most likely it would be deemed excessive to then walk up to someone incapacitated and give them a follow up “just to make sure they never do this to anyone else”..,.said with a C…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:01 PM
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Maybe because deeply (actually believe it) religious people are against cohabitation and divorce so they throw off the numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:41 PM
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I don’t know If it’s like 500 an hour, a long haul trucker in the area can swing that Truckers often make 6 figures
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:56 PM
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I know, but that’s still highly restricted compared to all of Europe etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:15 PM
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Did you mean this Instead of this < ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:40 PM
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Back in the day “corn” was shameful and harder to get and expensive Like guys would drive away from home and go buy a magazine at night while not making eye contact with the store clerk Today is totally different and I can see men using it once a day and getting that physical need met enough to not care…like taking methadone or something to stave off cravings for the “good stuff” If prostitution was legal in the US, then this effect would be magnified I’ve had folks tell me it practically is leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:38 PM
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“ had a sexual history”….this is too vague What do you mean? Had sex before me vs a former escort is a big gradient Would I change my view of someone based up having what I consider an unreasonably high body count? Absolutely. Does this mean I’d leave, not sure I’d have to be there…..if I left based partly on that I might not disclose it because it might be unnecessarily hurtful If a woman was 40 and told me 100 or more men, then it would be viscerally gross…women don’t get that men can have ick…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:39 AM
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It’s a simple observation Your idea that someone needs to follow a complicated procedure to be allowed to express a reasonable observation online is kinda bananas Your bar for stating an opinion is unreasonably high for this because you disagree I only skimmed your screed enough to post that because that was painful to look at with it’s ton, many directions, and wall of text
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:32 AM
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Marriage rate is also dropping Which could mean that the more marginal marriages aren’t happening as often and so divorces also decrease So some folks waiting just keep on waiting Not that that’s bad but probably something to consider
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:47 AM
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Part of the point is that what women tend to call average is actually above average
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:45 AM
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Would people push for legal action? I’m guessing at some point there would be a woman’s march complete with pink hats and shirts that read “pound us out!”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:18 AM
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Throw me another softball and I’ll see what I can do for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:16 AM
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I’d work in more explicitly character assassination by lying/talking about you behind your back Almost all women are on team woman and will believe what she says about a man, despite them knowing that women lie about other women all the time A weird thing…they realize women have been toxic towards them but their in group bias is just too strong and reflexive I’ve never even had them deny it here of all places…they know they put too much stock in the words of other women and are hugely biased tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:20 PM
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You’ve just outlined the reason why many think women have a hard time being happy with a man They want a guy with a 6 pack that doesn’t go to the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:18 PM
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I agree with a lot of this But how do you explain people that pull themselves out of poverty (like immigrants that get a job cleaning and their kids become doctors) versus folks that have been in a trailer park for generations? That is also partly genetic (dumb and lazy has some DNA involvement also)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:01 PM
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My verdict is I ignore people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:47 PM
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Wow You sound awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:27 PM
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It has an effect sure I don’t agree with the whole “poor people are fat because they can’t afford healthy food” trope that folks use to excuse fat people and also try to increase entitlements It’s more like a lot of poor people are poor because they make bad life decisions and lack impulse control which spills over into their diet and exercise habits….this is generational and also peer related with parents infecting their kids with this I was poor as a grad student for years and you just limit y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:22 PM
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You think this post where you lash out at strangers and say things you can’t know makes you seem sane? You’d probably be nicer to a convicted killer that gave you a hard luck story (my mom never hugged me) than a male that stands up to you here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:14 PM
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I’ve always treated women better than they’ve treated me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:52 PM
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Lol “My husband is so hot when it is Friday the 13th, he’s standing in the moonlight, and wearing that pink shirt I bought him”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:16 PM
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Tons of men say this Men simply love women more than women love men We are less likely to view you as a utility For instance, if a man and woman (in love) get into a car wreck and the woman is trapped in the car while it is on fire, the man will try to free her up to and including giving his life If he doesn’t, then every man will consider him a pussy until the day he dies A woman in a reverse situation? She could just run off into the night “to go get help” while screaming, and everyone will te…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:11 PM
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All that is true But building lean muscle is still way harder than maintaining a healthy BMI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:07 PM
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Also, if you show weakness (at least how they define it) This is why most men have no value onto themselves, we are human doings and judged harshly by performance In contrast, women are human beings and if a man loves and is attracted to you, then he is much more constant Female romantic love towards men just isn’t how men define love and isn’t very strong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:46 PM
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This does sound about right However, screw that I guess I’m too old and jaded to perform for someone at that level This explains a lot of the friction between men and women If I want to study something, neutron stars are way cooler at the moment I think younger men might benefit from this if they accept and ingrain it while still impressionable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:14 PM
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I d be more like “My GF is hot so why did she fuck her hair up today?” I’m not pilled or whatever so “y’all” doesn’t fit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:08 PM
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I have heard of it and just looked it up I wouldn’t want a partner like that People with these type of differences usually have too many others for me to handle Humans all want to be unique, but it is so overrated and overused For instance, we look at squirrels and we’re like “yeah that’s a squirrel” If the squirrel was hyper intelligent, it might think “I’m so unique, I have more space between my ears than Tom and my fur is fluffier than John” Nah sorry just a squirrel Imagine how aliens would …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:51 PM
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Maybe this is a personal difference I thought Cindy Crawford was hot when I was a teenager, she’s still hot I can imagine how my hotter exGFs looked and it still does it for me Maybe it is male vs female or maybe it is just a thing with you I don’t know of any women that think Brad Pitt is hot one day and not the next But maybe it is more for borderline cases, for instance if your BF is barely physically attractive to you, then I could see that on some days he is below your threahold
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:45 PM
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Ok Then I guess you are just so made that outside of LTRs you are miserable I can’t relate now But when I was more like you, it was in part because I was viewing myself too much from the lens I thought others were using to examine me Best of luck because I got nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:30 PM
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I am talking with the context of a romantic relationship My physical attraction certainly influences my mental and emotional state…anyone that thinks otherwise might be fooling themselves Again, I’m a guy that disagrees with you, and so you have to interpret what I say in the worst and weakest way possible so you can get your “win”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:20 PM
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As a guy, I have baseline physical attraction that must be there and her other traits can strengthen that but can’t replace it In other words, I can meet the most amazing woman in the world (from a non physical perspective) but if she is not at least cute to me, then we will remain friends I guess this coincides with what you are saying about men versus women But as a guy, if a woman explained to me her secondary attraction to me, I would view it as I experience attraction and conclude that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:07 PM
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I think you need to seek cognitive behavioral therapy and work on yourself You are fixated and determined to be unhappy with the hand you’ve been played Why take your genetic and other “cards” and make yourself feel as bad as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:06 PM
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I just disagree I can be mad at a GF, but if she is hot she is hot And that will help me get over my anger more quickly None of what I said implies attraction and arousal don’t vary but rather there is a baseline But like most blue pillers or whatever that disagree with me here, you interpret my posts in the least charitable way possible because that is the only way for you to feel you’ve “won” with any regularity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:04 PM
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I’m convinced that people were never meant (from a psychological and evolutionary perspective) to get most of their social needs met from a single person From a practical point, it gives them way too much influence over you So, I would say to expand your socialization with friends and family I find that when I do that that worries over romantic status are super muted Once you get your social needs met (learn to make friends if you have to), and you are still pining away for some special gal, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:15 PM
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Yeah people here will say stuff like “I see ugly dudes with women so ugly dudes get laid” They forget the commonality of dead bedrooms, divorce, and people that stay but don’t like each other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:05 PM
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You are basically saying that women can make themselves attracted to a man, which is what OP is saying But it is flimsier than immediate attraction When she is mad at you, then she doesn’t feel all those things, but if you are hot to her then she will still be innately physically attracted OP is right I’m not saying those things you listed don’t count and I’m not saying physical attractiveness is enough….but those things plus immediate physical attraction makes for much better relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:02 PM
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Actually if you age a bit and start enjoying your own company, then you’d rather be alone than with a woman that doesn’t treat you well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:00 PM
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I agree with this Attraction is not self-reflective but settling is In other words, ugly people aren’t attracted to other ugly people People discount the importance of attraction for smoothing out the rough patches
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:59 PM
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I think that if you take testosterone blockers that you have less testosterone than a woman https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23127814/ I don’t know enough about the biochemistry of female libido but I know women that take anabolic steroids report higher libido Also, the male body might “need” more testosterone to function properly For example, a young man with low T might have higher T than a woman of the same age, but one experiences the symptoms of low T and the other does not I wish more peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:41 PM
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Confidence has a very positive feedback The more confident you are the more successful you are which further builds your confidence Failure can be the same for people with low confidence with it begetting a vicious cycle Therefore, in order to get your first wins or breaks, I see nothing wrong with someone faking confidence at first However, as you benefit from this initial facade and gets self affirming wins, then for everyone’s sake you should start easing off of the facade and start trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:41 AM
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I’m a straight male and would stay put Male because I like my physicality and ability to tune out my emotions without it being suffering or depression (I can just choose not to feel things often times) Straight because gay men cheat more than any group there is I don’t want things to be easier on me I don’t care that much about lack of easy sex, sex isn’t the most important thing in life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:34 AM
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You would have to take a testosterone blocker like what they give for prostate cancer or transitioning from male to female My dad had to take them and it was hell He had all the symptoms of low testosterone in men (depression, chronic fatigue, hot flashes, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:30 AM
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I don’t know Porn gets me so horned up that I think it makes me more attracted to women overall I like amateur porn because the women are doing it for free and seem more into it (which puts the lie to the old thinking that no woman could possibly enjoying doing that) and the females in it are more realistic to what you see day to day
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:22 AM
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I don’t know I don’t see it the same We all have preference or ideals But I’ve never told a woman that she doesn’t fit my ideal I wasn’t aware this is now common Maybe it’s also because everyone meets on screens now and so are pre-objectified But to reject every woman that isn’t ideal is dumb and not what I see my friends doing The only female bodies I can’t find attractive at all are ones that are really heavy or really weird shape I knew a thin girl that had an exaggeratedly flat butt and exag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:08 AM
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I’m going off of normal, average men and not online men acting out I love a short, thick girl with curly dark hair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:41 PM
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I won’t entertain your ramblings I have forgotten more about science, logic, math, and related disciplines than you currently know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:40 PM
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I meant me and the women I’m around, as in thanks but no thanks for all the “help” I did not use the royal “we” as if I speak for all men Again, try not to interpret everything a man says in the worst way possible just so you can score a point I think having sex with a passed out or even heavily intoxicated woman (when you are not) is horrible However, 2 drunk and horny people getting it on is maybe not ideal but it isn’t as bad as what feminists would like to say (a drunk woman goes after a dru…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:46 PM
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Obviously drinking and wearing a short skirt is not consent Asking the question is offensive Like asking “hey does your mom do gang bangs?” I do not do the weird consent dance pushed on college campuses where you have to say “Is it okay if I touch your butt?” While a woman has her tongue down your throat and grinding on your lap You obviously just touch their butt and if they aren’t ready then they’ll let you know, I don’t go too fast so I’ve never had an objection (except when my last gf didn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:50 PM
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Women could do a better job of calling out other women It seems though that non crazy feminist women enjoyed some of the fruit of the rabid blue haired harpy but don’t like the consequences of said harpies going too far and demonizing men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:46 PM
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Dave Chapelle had an interesting take on this in a stand up special
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:44 PM
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It is possible to look at the data and see how reliable it might be For instance, what is someone most likely to lie about? Also, it isn’t just the bias, they also don’t go into social science because physics was too easy for them They are the least intelligent scientists on average also Half the time, a trained scientist in what is called a hard science will come to better conclusions from their data than they do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:16 PM
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Ok You probably know, but I was inferring the guy was part of a criminal motorcycle gang We have a hive of them here And they routinely kill each other etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:14 PM
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It doesn’t have to be And I won’t say all studies are bad But these ones where they try to estimate prevalence with a simple survey are bad Why does it seem men cheat way more are they all banging the same handful of floozies? Social scientists are usually very liberal These surveys make women look better than men, so my suspicion is that they are satisfied by it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:20 PM
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Thank you for your service.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:55 PM
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Huh? I am making a simple statement I am not convinced by any self reported infidelity statistics Full stop Are you confusing me with another person you are talking with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:31 PM
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Thanks I take it seriously and try to model healthy behavior for them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:28 PM
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We have no accurate statistics on infidelity It all relies upon self reporting which is notoriously unreliable for issues like this, even if anonymity is promised
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:25 PM
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STEM and tech are much broader than that I’m more science and engineering. STEM stands for science, technology, engineering, and math I also program in several languages to aid analysis and simulation modeling The folks doing that just for money are often not that great at it and explains some of the software trends I see
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:14 PM
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Strong men competitors and power lifters are often overweight They can list a ton of weight but can’t do body weight stuff very well I’m sure you have a better strength to weight ratio than them The square-cube law sets kind of an ideal size (why pit bulls are better fighters than some larger breeds and why Navy SEALs aren’t all as big as Brock Lesnar). If I recall, most special operators are around 5’ 10” to a little over 6’ and around 180 to 220 lbs (but of course with good body fat %). This i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:55 PM
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If it is specific to the college then you have a point However, people outside of that specific example could at least mention it Why exactly shouldn’t a general anti rape group ignore the most common place where rapes occur? Why do feminists act like men don’t get raped? Why do they sometimes argue that men can’t be raped? I say the simplest answer is that they just don’t care much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:51 PM
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Skinny can help (less weight to pull up) Most guys here are at least 20 lbs overweight I’d say at least half can’t do a single strict pull up with good form (no leg kicking etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:48 PM
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Tight yoga pants are not more comfortable than sweats I wear tight base layers under my hunting clothes so that they can wick sweat better…loose and sweat runs down your back….outside of a layering system with specific components I’d never wear them tight like that It is not as comfortable as something like pajamas or sweats (even accounting for anatomy differences….based upon how they feel outside the groin area) I’ve had women also tell me that tight and low cut shirts are more comfy too I con…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:31 PM
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I live in one of the fat states (there’s like 5 that are about tied and like almost 50% obese) Any woman with discernible hips and breasts (not just a few of many bumpy areas) think they are princesses and are pursued It’s very common to see a skinny guy with a morbidly obese wife or GF On the plus side, if you are a guy and can do a single pull up then you are automatically in around the top 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:28 PM
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I live in a constitutional carry state It doesn’t matter against the 1% type guys here I avoid situations where I might have to use force
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:26 PM
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I’m not a sarcastic narcissist at all I’m well liked at work In fact, I m not a typical tech guy (at least I hope….I’ve had to deal with a lot of guys with social issues)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:23 PM
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This is exactly me I’m really close with my only sibling (bro) and I’m really close with his 2 kids (boy and girl)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:22 PM
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It was a red flag But I was 28 (higher testosterone and less life experience) She was 24 and smart, funny, and exactly my type physically So I put up with too much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:21 PM
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Absolutely I’m just speaking from my experience If I were a hetero woman, I hope my standards would be similar to mine now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:20 PM
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Kids and crazy exes or legal and credit and debt trouble are the biggest examples of potential physical baggage But when I think of how the term is usually used, it means someone that has emotional and psychological problems that are in some way seemingly connected to the past And this latter type might be worse than the physical examples
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:14 AM
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I typo’d sex as sec And what I meant wasn’t that I was going to try at a gas station upon first meeting her I meant that the moment I saw her I could imagine enjoying sex with her in the future (meaning I don’t need time to build physical attraction…it’s just there)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:08 AM
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Special enough for me to get married (and expose myself to the legal system) would have to be crazy special A little special and I might date them So I recognize that special women exist, but I have a very high bar for someone I would marry And it is almost exclusively not about looks To be perfect for me, the woman only has to be cute enough that I immediately want to have sex with them (6 in the face with a nice body) From there it is all about her intellectual and emotional life You’ve actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:00 AM
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Huh? I didn’t insult a woman’s looks here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:57 AM
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Takes more than a little special
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:50 AM
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If this was for marriage or LTR and I had full knowledge of both personalities I will pick the ugly nice girl over the pretty bitch every time I’ve dated pretty bitches and learned to hate them fast
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:19 AM
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Also The body standards for women are much easier to attain Basically, look healthy and don’t be overly fat Dieting and light work outs are WAY easier than building lean muscle (like lifting such a heavy weight that you need a spot or you might get hurt) So basically have sex with your boyfriend, don’t be a bitch, and don’t eat so much that you look unhealthy….hell a little chunky if the weight goes mostly to the boobs and butt is sexy too…there’s no place on a man’s body where fat makes him mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:13 AM
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Lol Your last line made me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:12 AM
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She never told me this She just praised me for my masculine traits And if I expressed weakness would punish me I figured her out years later on my own She probably doesn’t even realize it now Why would she care? She was young and hot and had a new steady bf after like 2 months
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:26 AM
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As evidenced that anti rape groups ran by women never mention the people that are raped the most in the US which are men in prison I wouldn’t be surprised if they laugh about it and say it serves them right (for getting busted with a pound of weed or something not violent)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:56 AM
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Where am I blaming anyone for anything? We are talking about actions and what is and is not and about intent I haven’t talked about blame at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:32 AM
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I didn’t in any way say anything to suggest that if a woman dresses a certain way that she deserves bad treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:54 PM
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You can get close to people, just don’t sign a contract that allows their decisions to seriously hurt you I would only marry if I found a true unicorn or I wanted to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:08 PM
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Higher status men still seek validation but it is from men above them, which are fewer in number If you seek everyone’s approval then you are signaling at times that everyone is above you You can be a good person for its own sake and when someone still is an ass about it, then you just don’t care like “well I did my best and if they act like that then piss on them” In that way, you can not care about outcomes while still being a good person and yourself Any guy that goes out of his way to be a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:33 PM
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It’s because in the ancestral environment, an asshole would kill a guy and take his resources and woman anyway So, genetically and practically, it is easier for the woman to just go with the asshole to begin with I got my oil changed the other day at Grease Monkey The guy that talked to me in the pull up area came off like an instant asshole but he also had a Harley parked nearby and was like 5’6” and 130 lbs with bad jailhouse tats everywhere including his neck and hands We have a lot of 1% bik…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:27 PM
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Ants that don’t reproduce are still furthering their genes via kin selection Like how an 80 year old grandpa jumping on a grenade to save all his grandkids is assuring his genes survive more than if he selfishly saved himself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:16 PM
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Accountability in general Women are expected to deflect any problem they’ve created whereas a man that always does that is not respect by other men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:03 PM
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The kindest GF I ever had was likely mildly autistic Incredible artist The only woman I’ve ever truly thought valued and loved me just for me (other than female relatives) The only reason we broke up is because she did not like to talk and getting her discuss anything (even her passions) was like pulling teeth Back to the subject, good men routinely call other men out for selfish behavior towards women I always give advice taking into account that the male and female in question are both thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:02 PM
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I want neither I am most compatible with women that have had almost all of their sex within committed relationships and don’t sleep with guys too quickly but are not waiting for marriage In other words, sex is kind of a big deal to them but not a religious, god is watching kind of big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:00 PM
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I had a very progressive ex I was very progressive and blue pilled at the time And it ruined our relationship She would do things to try to get me to be more of a man and put her in her place if she was not acting in a pro social manner And I just thought she was being a bitch and broke up with her This was 20 years ago and I’ve learned a lot since then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:55 PM
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I work in a tech/STEM field and many women are empowered or whatever Still, if you are attractive to them, they usually love it when you kind of joke with them in a “nicely messing with your little sister” kind of way Most guys can’t do it right Basically, you have to be able to poke fun at them without hurting their feelings while acting kind of aloof and amused by it all Most people aren’t witty enough to do this without being hurtful or overly sarcastic But if you are good at it, it’s absolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:48 PM
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So because a creep will ogle a woman in a trench coat then putting on booty shorts is not usually meant to encourage it Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:38 PM
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You’ve just hoisted yourself on your own pitard If I do a friend a favor for it’s own sake, and do so several times and then I need help and he always refuses Then my good deed was not necessarily not for its own sake nor to create a sort of virtual credit account It is that I have realized that my friend is selfish and doesn’t view our friendship the same or friendship in general the same I now know I cannot really trust him or behave together in the way that most mentally normal men consider a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:36 PM
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You don’t think subtly enough to know that the way in which psychologists define transactions within relationships does not necessarily include conditionality and fairness (not that I have much admiration for many social scientists) For instance, my best male friendships are characterized by respect and mutual aid If one of my two lifelong friends began acting disrespectfully or like a total mooch, then I would speak with them and reconsider my investment in the friendship This is not transactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:17 PM
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Yeah because online adulterers that like to tell tales are reliable Also, two things can be true at once so long as not mutually exclusive For instance, it is possible that women that married while virgins and those that married as hos are both more likely to cheat Don’t get hung up on life being a simple linear plot on excel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:55 PM
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Look up the difference in brain hemisphere connectivity differences between men and women and what it means Basically, women have way more connections between the logic and emotion circuits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:29 PM
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Actions are done to give an impression The impression wished for such actions require context Dress attire is the context here It’s similar to swinging your hand with and without a knife held in it….you could probably parse that tens ways too Similarly shaking ones butt with a trench coat on is fundamentally different than doing the same with booty shorts instead For once, a feminist is mildly right, based upon simple definitions, but as usual, you miss the larger point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:09 PM
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Putting on clothes with intent and then walking in said clothes is doing a thing, it is acting like something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:54 PM
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I’m middle aged too Experience doesn’t mean that much if you aren’t perceptive If you are a male and view relationships as transactional, then you are likely emotionally disordered I would agree that they usually are not unconditional and that fairness is a thing, but that is not transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:53 PM
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Modern feminism is a lobbying group to remove all accountability from women and place it on males wherever possible while keeping all old accountabilities for men in place A bunch of evil harpies that are anti civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:50 PM
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Many women are not concerned at all with men they are not genetically related to These non relative males are to be used for their purposes as almost a birth right Imagine a male and female walking down the road, concern is expressed for the female and fear for the male (I wonder if she is okay and needs a ride?) This might be understandable but it should at least be acknowledged and it is genetically ground into us When researchers present scenarios and ask for judgment calls and then do the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:44 PM
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Dressing is an action
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:36 PM
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I don’t get it but a lot of men like their women to wear this stuff so that they have something to look at plus to make other guys jealous I had one ex assume I was like that because she had ex BFs that liked it I also have never talked sexually about any of my past GFs because I don’t want to encourage other men to see them in that way This was standard up until around 15 or so years ago Young people that came of age around 15 years ago think a bunch of stuff is normal that was not at all for l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:30 PM
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Here’s what’s funny to me Human emotions are the most animalistic part of us Despite the protestations of blue haired feminists that are into crystals, all reasonably intelligent animals (advanced enough for something we’d say is consciousness but not necessarily self consciousness) have emotions as guiding tendrils from their genetic instincts Following your feelings and wallowing in them is one of the least evolved things you can do, neglecting what makes humans unique, but all the while this …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:27 PM
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Women are not attracted to as many men as men are to women But also women no longer need to get married Also, women are now less likely to be given and heed traditional advice from women in their family A lot of them probably have a single mom as a mother and there’s a decent chance the mom has Ho tendencies And they get their advice from women’s magazines that don’t actually care but are trying to make money while having the desired social impact
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:23 PM
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This is partly why marriage was independently invented in many cultures and those with this cultural tech tended to perform better. It keeps men from fighting and keeps more of them invested in society. But a blue hair feminist disagrees because of course it was only about owning women or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:18 PM
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Emotions are largely the expression of instincts that are wired in us As such, dogs have strong emotions People like to change the definition of “emotion” so that animals can’t have them (basically define it by giving it uniquely human elements) but those folks are wrong Feral children 100000% have emotions throughout their lives To suggest otherwise is I’ll informed and kinda monstrous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:59 AM
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This is totally false And if you actually read this somewhere, I bet it was a pro choice source that was trying to make abortion sound better
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:56 AM
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Basically a more grandiose version of “people like boats so get a boat and people will want to hang out with you to ride on your boat” The argument for this is that they might eventually start liking you and not being purely transactional I could do it if I wouldn’t see it a mile away and be turned off by it I’m in a career where it pays for certain people to kiss my ass It’s pleasant that so many people are nice to me, but it is often unclear which ones call me a prick after they hang up the ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:39 AM
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This place has just turned into a place for people to shit on each other Like you just did
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:32 AM
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Not always Older or more shy women can have massive crushes that they hide perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:28 AM
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That is common where you live and in the circles you are in socially Go outside certain areas of large cities and those guys are anomalies You should travel more I might add a lot of feminist women secretly think these guys are weak and don’t like them as much as they would with red blood
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:03 PM
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Did I say 80%? Don’t specify my argument in the exact way that would most help your own I swear Modern kids need to take a logic course It’s flipping awful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:01 PM
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They want to hang out with men that aren’t their significant other
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:00 PM
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I’m guessing secure = high self esteem and confidence to you? It’s awesome you’ve identified how everyone with that trait should think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:58 PM
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The person you replied here to is an internet tough guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:57 PM
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I was talking about you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:55 PM
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Yep Women confuse reality for the BS copes their female friends come up with over Sunday brunch to make the sad one happy again “Ah girl he doesn’t want to go out with you?” “I bet he’s gay or is just insecure” Women act like men haven’t watched them do this in real time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:54 PM
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You honestly think the only reason a man would prefer a women with a notch count of 5 over one with 500 Is insecurity? Why don’t you listen to men instead of the hamster wheel spinning?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:52 PM
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Women act like they wear this crap at home alone Knock on their door Sunday and they are in sweats and a big t shirt…not booty shorts and a bustier top
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:50 PM
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They do it for themselves in that they like male attention You are just slightly modifying this as a get out of jail free card For instance, women have told me they dress sexy (boobs out) because it makes them feel more confident and better about themselves, so it is for them Well, they feel better because it makes them feel good to have men sexually attracted to them So, it’s just word play You actually wrote that women post thirst traps for themselves and not men…,that’s actually funny and jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:49 PM
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You think you will get a true opinion walking up to a random guy on the street and asking him politically and otherwise charged questions? Are people here just selectively naive? Do you only consider modern men the ones at Starbucks in Manhattan wearing skinny jeans and a scarf?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:44 PM
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No It’s just obvious Promiscuous people, male or female, that are used to quickly getting into bed for casual sex are more likely to cheat Full stop You can’t spin that away Your words are not magical incantations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:40 PM
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I was talking to an ex about female military service She said that women should be able to try out for infantry roles and do them if they can I said sure, but how do you account for men sometimes being forced into infantry roles while in your hypothetical women could choose it or not based upon their preference? And even try it out and then quit and do another job She is a smart person but simply could not understand why this might need discussed or be a thing I tried to explain for so long and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:38 PM
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Yep Reject a woman and she will turn cold and often act like she hates you It’s because she took a chance and got embarrassed and she blames you for her bad feelings, no matter how you handled it Men are expected to shake it off and act like nothing happened I feel many women are so in their feelings that they cannot zoom out and see things like this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:34 PM
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I somewhat agree But do you not think there is some expectation of a difference between behavior while single vs behavior when committed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:32 PM
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We’ve got a few groups Wokesters that think we are socially constructed beings almost entirely (when it suits them only) The religious that think we are mostly spiritual beings Folks that see us as really smart evolved apes with DNA and behaviors from long before we were even human still floating around I’m in group 3 It makes absolute sense to me why women like certain male traits. It also makes sense to me why many, many men feel revulsion at the thought of loving, marrying, and raising a fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:30 PM
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A lot of women want these girls nights where they dress revealing and they hang out with random strange men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:16 PM
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A random social scientist from a random school probably doesn’t understand much and also wants to support their own biases Surveys show women in a better light than men regarding infidelity etc and so they wipe their hands as if done They never explore a way to determine the truthfulness of answers For instance, regarding infidelity stats, they should ask people things like “has your best friend ever cheated?” and then a follow up to determine how they rate their own confidence in knowing Guess …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:13 PM
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A lot of marriages are not happy Even more so if one or both people do not have attraction for the other This is just basic observation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:06 PM
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Do you know how many married women stay but aren’t attracted to their husbands? It’s a significant slice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:20 PM
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Listen Almost everyone gets fooled a little in relationships or surprised I’ll say because it takes years to actually know someone So, you’re basically victim blaming here But if the victim is a straight white male, then you’re probably cool with that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:14 PM
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For a lot of women, their male “friends” that validate them (and want to sleep with them) are more important than any boyfriend If they slow down hanging with Jeff the guy that flirts with them and the others, then when their relationship ends they won’t have a simp self esteem support system and they’ll have to reestablish it This becomes a self fulfilling prophecy because all these guys sniffing around help to end their relationships and hence necessitate the existence of these guys sniffing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:57 AM
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You act like any compromise is controlling And that people don’t learn and evolve together This thinking is exactly why modem relationships are failing a good bit I can basically reverse a lot of the tales here and be closer to reality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:48 AM
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You are assuming that the guy has full knowledge of someone before being serious This is not the case always You have cognitive blind spots that you could drive a truck through
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:46 AM
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It isn’t controlling to tell someone something like “You didn’t hang out with men alone when we started dating, you want to do that now with your new male friend, and it is not acceptable to me. If you insist on doing that, then I will reevaluate this relationship and might leave.” But you probably think that is some other buzzword designed to remove any control a male had over his life once he gets with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:44 AM
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Listen, most men that act like nothing ever bothers them are play acting being secure as a LARP Most self styled tough guys are deep down very troubled and emotionally weak Perfect example are outlaw biker types, those dudes just run in a pack for protection and most of them are mentally ill, often with cluster b personality disorder (which are extremely common among inmates…and means deep down they are total emotional pussies)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:40 AM
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We get called insecure for avoiding these women We get called insecure when a woman is fake and we later find out she doesn’t fit us and we leave OP is right that “insecure” is the main tool hanging off the “debate tool belt” Notice the hardly any male here just blanket condemns a woman as insecure and thinks that that somehow wins the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:38 AM
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A new partner every month for 5 years is a lot No way I would invest time with that person
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:09 AM
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I don’t but I’ve been asked by women If a guy asks a gal this, she will likely lie and then be very careful afterwards You’ll never know the truth or know that you know the truth, so just play it cool and you ll be able to tell if a woman acts like she is overly promiscuous or has an unhealthy relationship with male attention You don’t need the exact number A previous ex was promiscuous as heck I have no idea what her real number is…I just let her talk until I knew her relationship with sex and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:08 AM
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You’re full of it Nothing I’ve written indicates a Madonna whore complex You are projecting onto me I’m guaranteed a more grounded person and more rational than anyone that could write as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:28 PM
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This is a ridiculous question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:26 PM
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Rational humans make good choices as far as who to associate with and ignore people that want them to do things they perceive as wrong for them Real men is such an obvious shaming and control tactic It’s funny Men have been laughing about that one for years
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:05 PM
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I hope you are joking It’s like conjure real men and then add your own requirement without any justification
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:04 PM
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Absolutely If he has social anxiety and fears approaching and stays to himself, then he’s screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:14 PM
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A “real man” being one that agrees with your opinions You wouldn’t know a real man if he pinched your butt (if your a man or woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:00 PM
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What percentage of married men are not considered attractive by their wives and not given sex with any frequency at all? It’s enough that these folks have their own subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:51 PM
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Ok If you think 1 and 1,000 are the same Then you might not have lost the debate objectively (not sure if this can be done regarding this subject), but you have lost the debate among almost all humans other than rabid wokesters or sex workers lobbying for their own self-interest (1,000 being crazy and bad is a nearly universal subjective human opinion, regardless of which sex has that count) But I could at least make a case using some data and a few other things, but you’d just wave your hand at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:45 PM
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It’s quite easy to understand Saying “n count doesn’t matter” full stop entails that 1 is the same as 1,000 When you want to make it 5 vs 25 and avoid having to explain why 1,000 doesn’t matter, then you are basically admitting that n count does matter in some circumstances But you’d rather not go there (because it hurts your argument) and would rather take someone into the weeds by comparing low average to high average and then arguing over thresholds If what I’m saying doesn’t make sense, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:25 PM
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Sock bin at the second hand store…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:17 PM
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If a woman was already average ish when younger and/or she picked up a lot of baggage Then it gets really hard for them and some become bitter and desperate These are the ones that often start pursuing men pretty aggressively
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:16 PM
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It’s because if your logic is correct, the it should not have an obvious limitation If it has an obvious limitations, then you should recognize and think on that or explore it more instead of being such a smug leftie Current young people simply can’t argue usually Your objection is the exact point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:08 PM
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See, you are adding the “immoral and beneath them” part I don’t blame you much The current American educational system is horrible and politicians and folks on the news don’t argue fairly or logically Just because I would not marry a porn star or a butcher does not mean that I think they are immoral or beneath me Take for example someone’s height, if a woman doesn’t want to marry a short man then would you jump to her thinking she must think them “beneath her” in the figurative sense? No And the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:37 PM
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That was a long text to explain why your question is a dumb trap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:33 PM
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It’s interesting that current progressives think if you can attach consensual sex to something that it then makes it off limits to question It is an over correction for when people judged gay people very negatively The overcorrection goes like this “people have no control over what sexually excites them, therefore we are not to have an opinion on any consensual act” This leads to all sorts of strange things For instance, let’s say I like to go out on the weekend, make bikers mad, and get beat up…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:30 PM
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Yeah They never get that some of us have dated a fair share That since promiscuous women date many men that many of us will have had experience with at least one And that we can accurately compare them to non promiscuous women They just assert “nope doesn’t make a difference” over and over and make up other stuff It’s like arguing against a zoo keeper that chimps aren’t dangerous or something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:40 PM
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They hate when the inverse of their logic is shown as being more likely accurate Reminds me of Douglas Adams’ parable of the mud puddle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:38 PM
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Your point has no stopping criterion Folks nowadays hate someone pointing that out and also doing the exploit of turning into an informal reductio ad absurdum of sorts To that end, are you suggesting that a woman that has been with 500 different men is indistinguishable from one that has been with 5?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:36 PM
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He doesn’t want to invest the months it takes to determine if someone is trustworthy People lying about their past so often partially fuels this type of thing Also, his search would possibly pick up people that posted their OFs content in preview form as advertisement or would catch leaks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:28 PM
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This doesn’t make sense My your logic, what do you think of LEO that looks at this stuff to catch criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:22 PM
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Someone doing this with an eye for decreasing false positives would likely use this only as a dragnet and then visually examine and compare several images to establish their own confidence level
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:20 PM
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Wouldn’t it be more accurate to call someone a hypocrite if they were in porn and judged someone else for also doing porn? (like to like) I think we need a better definition of hypocrisy. For instance, if I enjoy steaks cut by a local butcher while simultaneously neither wanting to be a butcher nor date a butcher am I then a hypocrite? Why does it become hypocrisy when my genitals become involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:12 PM
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My age is immaterial and the way you write as to demand information makes we want to give you less of it You are using a debate trick, actually sophistry, where you, perhaps unwittingly, are using the continuum (aka bald man) fallacy to your advantage, so you think. I cannot give you an exact number. I only consider someone “town bicycle” category once they have obviously surpassed any standard I might have. I do not quibble over gray area. For instance, if I defined a bald man (hence the termin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:40 PM
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Really common Average guy, not getting any, meets a cute girl Then he proudly announces “hey Stacy had a FWB when we met, but she likes me and is gonna stop seeing that guy” [insert deerpy grin]
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:56 AM
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Women do notice men “beneath” them of the man is exceptionally attractive, however it is likely to be a rags to riches story but rather a “I screwed the janitor at work behind my husband’s back” story
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:47 AM
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They want above average men to celebrate and worship their averageness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:40 AM
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If you are willing to be celibate, then not having to deviate from your path to please someone just to get sex is obviously a bonus You can do more with more energy and fewer constraints You seem to have an immature view that all men rank sex as one of the most important things (this changes once you are 40 plus) and that people are thinking about how others score them and trying to gain points by not changing Most really exceptional people that made a difference in the right way (and not exerti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:04 AM
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You act like all insecurities are caused by a defect and also irrational Yeah, I would feel a loss of security if I married the town bicycle I’m weird like that….noticing patterns around me and looking into the future and all….if done well the less smart people around you might even accuse of witchcraft
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:55 AM
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Or they think they have no other options, either because they don’t feel attractive or because they think everyone does this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:50 AM
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I ll give up a few years to have more freedom But this likely influenced in this way: attractive people are more likely to be married and attractive people tend to be healthier since many attraction markers are actually surrogates for health ( many obvious examples like healthy skin and teeth and facial symmetry)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:23 AM
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I am a guy and understand male psychology more than I do female psychology I have no idea how a guy can develop feelings for a woman while both people are simultaneously banging other people I’d never be exclusive with a woman that was having sex with one or more different men when I met her This was kind of the norm before everyone supposedly changed ( which happened to coincide with internet, smart phones, and social media) Marriage and birth rates will continue to decline
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:19 AM
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Did you hear about Lisa? The whole football liberated her all night last weekend….it was like a train to freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:36 PM
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Yep Women exercise power by controlling the social network and acceptable thoughts and words In fact, they even tell men how female vaginas feel around a penis Recently, I posted here that if a man’s wife started having regular sex with another male that the husband can possibly detect a change….because her sexual habits/frequency changed Women of course told me I’m wrong (because they have a penis and know what that is like)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:15 PM
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Average looks A guy can date an average looking woman and then see all sorts of special things about her that he loves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:46 PM
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There is selective service, which all men have to register for That is the list that we are drafted from, if that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:10 PM
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In science, the sample size is often written as N =
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:55 PM
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3.5 days/week x 5.5 men/day x 4 weeks/month x 4 months = 308 men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:45 PM
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Huh I guess I’m a more attainable height or something I have experienced this from several mean a year for the past 20 years I guess because I am the height they lie to become (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:45 PM
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Yep The only men always honest about their height are 6 foot or more I’m 6 foot barefoot and not cheating Shorter guys always tell me I must be at least 6’2” because they are 6 foot I’m sure truly tall guys (I’m just a little above average) get this constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:02 PM
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I knew a married woman that legit weighed over 300 lbs….she was so heavy that my ability to judge her weight is gone (I can judge if a woman weighs around 170 lbs or something but her size breaks that ability for me) She had 2 guys that she cheated with that were in much better shape (normal weight and appearance) There is nowhere that morbidly obese men are having casual sex with multiple average women, unless maybe he is paying them or he is rich/famous
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:59 PM
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This is simply because men think that male attractiveness to women is roughly a bell curve, similar to how they view women Women view men differently than how men view women Men look at themselves and think perhaps rightly that they are a good bit above average compared to other men, but that does not mean women will find you attractive at all One reason for this phenomenon is that women have lower testosterone and lower libido on average, so it takes a stronger stimuli It’s more similar to a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:54 PM
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Just calling it RP isn’t an argument The whole “did hitler like cake?” Style logical fallacy If you don’t think women judge men based upon their relationship status then you’ve been living in Antarctica or just lie to yourself or others….it’s so obvious as to be self evident I’m not a red piller but tons of what they say is true and is often backed up However the entire field of evolutionary psychology and human evolution is under attack by feminists and other groups….simply because it supports …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:01 PM
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Changing for a specific woman you aren’t with at all is a dysfunctional “sniper” approach to dating…where you go from specific target to specific target Also, if a woman rejects you because you are fat, you go lose weight, do not tell her (before or after you start dating) that you did it for her….some guys would find endearing but most women will be put off or even scared by if (also it will make the accomplishment seem tainted in her eyes)….it’s just a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:49 PM
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If you’ve been around many women, then it’s obvious why
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:32 PM
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Eh…this can backfire Had a women talk about her love of butt play during dinner on our first date It was meant to entice me, it seemed, but had the opposite effect You can’t just talk without having someone think you are being weird or controlling their reaction For instance, if I talked to a woman about sex, she would likely think I was softly/indirectly propositioning her or at least putting out bait with some plausible deniability It would be great if we could just all be frank (and Frank) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:31 PM
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Female vanity is brave and sacrificing? If women starve themselves for men to the extreme that is pathology and should be addressed individually But in the more mild cases, women are responding to their instincts from the ancestral environment in which we evolved…during that time females without male protection and provision had a very bad time Men want women much more than the converse, but women need men more This is also why most women cannot understand a man that is fed up with dating them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:44 PM
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In comparison to whom, all non single men? I’d say that your substantial reason is a partial and somewhat ad hoc and post hoc rationalization It’s more about females being the arbiters of social acceptance and they don’t like that which doesn’t further their aims I might have to make a t shirt with a little Venn diagram that visually explains that although many serial killers are single males that the majority of single males are not serial killers, sorta help folks understand conditional probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:41 PM
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I was around groups of people, not in a healthcare capacity I see what you are doing The 2 fields (healthcare and K12 Ed) are female dominated and that is why we had to hear about how brave they are continually Further, back to the original point, taking care of a Covid patient is not as brave as saving a woman you don’t know from a knife wielding rapist You literally found the one common example of women being brave to help men they aren’t related to, I’ll give you that and won’t further besmir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:28 PM
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Nope I have multiple STEM degrees and consult/problem solve for an industry you rely upon to stay alive everyday I was “in the field” continually and had paperwork to show why I could go about anywhere (didn’t have to follow all lockdown protocols) I’m a male and this industry is male-dominated that I work within, and so none of us sat around and talked about how stunning and brave we were as heroes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:20 PM
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Do I have to add “on average” or “typically” to every statement I make which imply I am not, in fact’ making universal statements? Further, what I wrote has been studied about sex difference And the more liberal countries are more women go into traditionally female jobs Wanna find the most female engineers? Go to a poor country where people have to be practical or starve
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:11 PM
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The whole “we are heroes” thing is totally overblown And they did it in part to keep getting paid They weren’t volunteers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:09 PM
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You are assuming she did something that I just missed Why do you assume that? It’s probably, like most women, you resort to in group bias whenever a man and woman are in conflict It’s weird women will bitch about a toxic woman but would probably side with her if she was in conflict with her husband It’s a knee jerk pathology at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:03 PM
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I’ll give you an example And exGF had an extremely sensitive clit Any direct touching of it was off limits, just the area around it and moving the hood etc but nothing should touch the part of the clit that is exposed to the air Well, you’d think she’d tell me that, right? Nope, like 6 months in she blows up on me and spills all this and then tells me “You should just know this!!!” She probably thought all women were the same or just was being overly emotional But I don’t think you actually know…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:27 PM
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The physical cues must be apparent It can’t be “well my back did momentarily arch”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:16 PM
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I’m single and childless Many women see male worth through “what does he do for women and children and can he get access to women?” It’s so dysfunctional Women don’t see this very often because it has been shown that the two sides of their brain are more interconnected This sounds like a good thing, but a consequence is that women have a much harder time separating their logical thinking from their emotional impressions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:14 PM
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I’m not pilled but I like it when people see reality accurately I like it when people tell the truth I like it when people take responsibility for their own actions I like it when people care about others and see everyone (even straight white men) as equally human The current feminist movement is a laughing stock If it takes years of training to believe and support non-complex things, then you know it is BS Like the whole “intersectionality” thing is just a wrong take on something statisticians …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:12 PM
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This is a main difference Men like physical objects (I.e. observable reality and practicality) Women like people and emotions (I.e. you can just make stuff up and not test it and have a definite rebuttal to your ideas….just keep spinning it away) It reminds me of how female friend groups tend to support each other Jane did a bad thing and made her husband mad She brings this to her girl Sunday brunch round table All the women start spinning ideas until they find a narrative that takes the blame …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:07 PM
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I am talking about women that do not communicate and so to “just get” requires more than normal attention….you’d have to be taking her vitals or something to see if you were moving in the right direction I’ve had women that would not even make audible noise because they were so bashful/not understanding the situation They would lubricate and show other physical signs and maybe an orgasm at the end, but with no “yes, keeping doing that” or guiding of the hand/etc….then you are asking the guy to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:56 PM
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Yeah I’m going to look at your lack of example and my lives experience and not believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:51 PM
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Try your best using google to find examples of a woman risking her life to save her husband or any male she is not genetically related to You will have trouble configuring a search to return any/much because the algorithm will give 100s or 1,000s of stories of the opposite (man saving woman) because it is so much more common I’ve tried this multiple times, even if you can find women saving men the results will still contain mostly the converse Women can love men that are not their sons or otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:29 PM
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Because this isn’t a space that women tend to complain in, they do it on friendlier turf usually
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:24 PM
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Women might not realize that women are more diverse than men are when it comes to what feels good/works They also want it just to happen because telling you somehow ruins it Or they are bashful around sex Or their idea of a real man is someone that just gets it Or they want a man with so much experience with different women that they just know Or they think the guy has had sex with as many women as they have had men (a lot of relationships end up where the woman has slept with twice as many peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:52 PM
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At least you won’t accidentally marry the “town bicycle” Young folks traveling to a large town by themselves to live and then meeting and trusting someone you hardly know and don’t have any outside info on is common now but historically rare It’s actually weird given human behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:48 PM
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I wouldn’t date anyone super political or with extremist or inflexible ideas They are super boring because they want to steer everything to their pet cause and they are so sure of themselves that they cannot engage in interesting discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:38 PM
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I live in a fat state, in the fat USA Here, any woman that has discernible breasts and hips (not just 2 of several lumpy areas) thinks she’s a queen You see fit men with overweight women all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:13 PM
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Depends In smaller towns, people have an idea
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:36 PM
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Sure Number 2 was basically ignored Number 1 is “women pursue you like hounds from hell” And there is no middle position Your conception is distorted and does not match reality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:41 AM
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Be yourself Because what good is it to gain a thot while losing your authentic self?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:26 PM
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It likely meant “too confident for who you are” and was an indirect insult
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:25 PM
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Eh…unless you say this perfectly and have charisma, it’s likely to backfire on you Like you are trying to instill false confidence Would you do this with a stranger in any other situation? An extreme example “Hey, I know that a few kids have been abducted from this park, but let the record show that I’m not that kinda dude” Best approach is to be attractive and smooth…at least smooth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:28 PM
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If they estimate with a logical method and then are explicit in their methods, then this is very different than a guess In fact, many things in the past (like age of Earth) are estimates using known methods If you think this is the same as a wild guess, then you don’t understand science enough yet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:23 PM
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There seems to be a gap between 1 and 2 High normie or low Chad Women don’t commonly hotly pursue them, at least not hot women, but average to low average women do sometimes and cute women will sometimes make it very easy for them This type of guy might be 6 foot, muscular, but face is average or slightly above
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:16 PM
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It’s based upon genetic analyses and probability theory
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:14 PM
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I don’t think bars are your “thing” As far as attractiveness, if a guy has a handsome face, then he will know because women will periodically tell him right to his face If women do not approach and compliment you at least once in a while, then you are probably a 7 or lower in the face It doesn’t mean you are ugly A woman with a hot bod and a 7 face will be popular among men, but the lower female libido means most of them only respond to super stimuli I don’t think women are interested in actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:12 PM
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Once I got in my 30s, I purposefully stopped asking any direct questions. I knew I probably wouldn’t get the truth, and knew I probably wouldn’t like the truth. But I still cared. Some women here wrongly take a guy not asking and seeming easy going as not caring. Acting like you don’t care is the best way to get closer to the truth. Even though I stopped ever asking, I still looked for “tells” and based some decisions partially on that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:05 PM
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For a young male, the sheer lack of physical intimacy is in itself a huge issue It often warps their minds if they think they ll be a kissless virgin their whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:22 PM
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I misread countries And I don’t know how things are there I do not many mass shooters in the US look like and even admit to being kissless virgins It will never be studied to answer the question because the results might be politically incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:19 PM
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Huh ? Prostitution is illegal in all of the US except a few spots in Nevada
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:42 PM
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When men only want sex, then they don’t care When men want a relationship, they often do care This is why you have women that claim “Men don’t care about n count. All the men I let hit it on the first date didn’t even mention it! None of those worked out though…” The reason you see a contradiction is because you are taking a diverse set of people with different views and even different views by the same person in different contexts, and acting like all those various views belong to a single pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:32 PM
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The problem is both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:30 PM
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Imagine what would happen if the US decriminalized prostitution and so all these desperate guys could easily get nookie
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:57 PM
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Also, women can more easily be single and have a FWB In fact, their FWB will on average be more attractive than their exBFs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:55 PM
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You don’t need an exact number, you just need “probably too high for me” Plus, I just find the traits associated with promiscuous women to be inherently unattractive even if the woman is not promiscuous Like acting thirsty for male attention and acting inappropriately towards other men….bad trait even if the woman is a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:39 PM
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I read about an older woman going away for the weekend for the first time with a new guy She went to the gynecologist to get hormone creams and advice so that she could have sex (usually too painful) and said it was “to put her best foot forward” Which means “trick the guy into thinking sex will be common in their relationship” I don’t why she was stressing if she had a mouth and booty hole….I kid, I kid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:29 PM
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Only if the death was a result of her negligence….because that probably means she’s crazy and will give me some of that hot crazy girl sex I’ve heard about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:26 PM
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Yep Women that are relatively average in the face but have: nice teeth, nice bod, nice hair, and dressing to show off bod can be considered smoke shows What is an average guy with a jacked body called? Overcompensating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:21 PM
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True, the math I showed assumed an independence that is not realized But it is still much less than a 50% chance to be above 50% regarding multiple traits
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:15 PM
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What about a dial that can make you attracted to any woman? So if you find a good woman that is unattractive they you can make yourself super into her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:55 PM
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The “most couples” are looks matched is a bit of red herring Yes, women can’t date the level of guy they can just bang The guys they let hit it casually are usually better looking than the woman Relationships are much closer in looks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:51 PM
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Actually, you can do the reverse also, yes Male and female faces aren’t that horribly different if you remove your mental process of “I’m looking at a girl” and know how the sex hormones tend to affect the face
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:31 PM
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You don’t think it is possible to both desire sex and be voluntarily celibate? If so, then how do people voluntarily diet and not eat junk food they desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:24 PM
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Assuming symmetrical distributions for looks, height, and wealth (3 things you mention first paragraph) Then the chance of being above average, given random chance, is 1/2 for each of the 3 traits The chance of being above average in all 3 is 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 or 1/8 or 12.5% Given modern education, I wouldn’t be surprised if many women think that the average man in fact does have a 1 in 8 rarity Would explain quite a bit, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:15 PM
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Here’s how many women count it to determine what they tell their BF First, they count all ex boyfriends and men so significant in their life that you will hear about or see them Then, like someone lying on a resume, they look at the year coverage of these guys and in any large opening they count a minimum number of short term partners, flings, ONS, FWB, etc This is the minimum credible number that you might believe All situations like casual sex on vacation with a guy she never saw again are str…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:57 PM
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It’s pretty easy to put men and women on a somewhat equivalent scale Mentally focus on the woman’s face and ignore her hot bod and sexy clothes…..her boobs and showing them will cause men to give her facial points due to boner logic Now, mentally remove her sexy hair and makeup You’re basically envisioning a head shot of her with her hair pulled back and no makeup Now, kind of masculinize the face in your head….basically ask yourself “if she was male but with otherwise similar genetics…what woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:38 PM
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I’ve watched him on YouTube, but you’ve inspired me to buy a book of his Which would you recommend I read first?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:31 AM
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Thanks, no offense taken I don’t always show it, especially here, but I have my own path It’s partly blindly staring into the scientific explanation of things until finally (with a bit of probability theory) meaning has popped out for me clearly The other part is plucking the decent bits from good philosophy, psychology, some Buddhism, but more stoicism At one time, I read quite a bit of Zen literature I have to sometimes remind myself of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:23 AM
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I’d say this is a limited reading of history It wasn’t all sultans with harems and warlords Our ape relatives have some female choice And human females have selection instincts that cross cultures and would not evolve unless used Regardless of whether it is forced or by modern women choosing to be in the soft harem of a rich hot guy, in the past the average guy not having a family caused fewer males to fully invest in society The laws against polygamy and marriage being encouraged was a way to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:21 AM
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I’m an atheist, but realize that moderate religion helps people I wish I could believe, but it is impossible for me I made a deal with myself long ago to try to only believe what is most likely given the best observations and reason.. even if it hurts…this is stuck and is who I am and can’t be undone The people with the happiest lives on average were raised religious, never questioned it, married a fellow Christian at a relatively young age (before 25), and had kids and live a life focused on fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:08 AM
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I am not making a naturalistic fallacy I do not think our natural urges are necessarily good In fact, I think the proper use of our minds is to transcend these urges where possible and prudent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:01 AM
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And the opposite, the moralistic fallacy, as well Sometimes in the same argument, used interchangeably to the desired end
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:55 AM
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Civilization formed partly in spite of our biological urges In the past, the sexual marketplace was more similar to how it is now, as folks more did what they wanted This didn’t lead to a stable society where many men were invested due to them having a family and children Modern “progressive” movements are reversing this and taking us back to a more primitive mindset while saying it is progress The dummies realized that people in modern society couldn’t just follow their base emotions, they thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:15 AM
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You’re fine if you have hobbies, friends/family and social outlets, a rich internal life, and pets However, there are definite downsides depending upon where you live I live in a small town in a rural state As a single guy, if I ask a male to hang out or grab a beer, then he is likely to think I’m gay asking him out on a date, you’re unlikely to be invited anywhere by couples because the female won’t have your GF to talk with, a lot of people will think you are odd just because you don’t priorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:16 PM
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This is true at the individual level At the aggregate, it’s obvious why marriage and the nuclear family were focused on, because it makes for more stable and stronger societies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:46 PM
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Things will have to get so bad that even the purposefully obtuse take notice Of course, they will misattribute the reasons But it will be a start The US overall will likely decline in most ways prior to a turnaround It’s the whole Strong people make good times Good times make weak people Weak people make hard times Hard times make strong people Rinse and repeat
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:38 PM
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Imagine how much more advanced we’d be if human attraction was all mental and zero physical Einstein would have been one of the hottest men on Earth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:22 AM
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People downplay how much sexual attraction gets people through rough patches in a relationship It’s a lot harder to be mad at someone you want to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:15 AM
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Yep After a woman goes after guys out of her league and gets used, then when a guy in her looks league doesn’t want that…he’s the bad guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:03 AM
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So many women going after men out of their league is ruining dating for everyone It’s because of digital dating which gives a woman in a small town the ability to hit up every hot guy within 100 miles, men which in the past she would never meet It’s causing women all sorts of issues and they are sharing these men, whether they know it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:57 AM
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Is this a set up to show women that the inherent attractions of men are not wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:39 AM
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It’s in part because men were around when these wild women were doing their thing Even if they didn’t participate, they know the girl that let a frat run a train on her was a mess and mentally ill They don’t want to be tricked into marrying that type later in life in part because marrying someone capable of horrible decisions is not wise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:33 AM
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Yep Sperm is cheap and abundant, so nature invented testosterone so men would want to spread this resource The desire gap and much of society simply follows
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:09 AM
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Live a healthy and social life and keep your eyes opened for a good match but leave when you know they are not and don’t overinvest quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:44 AM
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Regarding the men they truly desire, I agree they don’t have that much…hence why they think guys are a-holes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:40 AM
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Are those women happy and not thinking they settled? I feel most women think they can do better and this fuels some poor treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:22 AM
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Super hot guys do not take a woman’s sexual past into account when deciding upon a long term relationship? This place is laughably absurd But it goes with modern culture where people just cozy into a digital echo chamber of their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:01 AM
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I think many men don’t like that promiscuity is now encouraged in young women Also it is lied about Even here, folks say only 1% of men care about a woman’s sexual past at all (like she could’ve gotten gangbanged by the football team every weekend and they don’t care)…and that is laughably absurd Sure dudes in skinny jeans sipping Starbucks in San Fran might not care, but there are tons of guys that do but they don’t talk about it A super liberal feminist is surprised that given the crowd she is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:59 AM
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That’s fine But do women know they are passing by their looks match to be a part of a guys soft harem? Do women realize just because a top guy banged them that it doesn’t mean they are on his level and that a similar guy will date them? Do women realize that when they talk about men they are ignoring most men? I think what bugs people is that men are expected to be realists but women are not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:51 AM
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The only reasons I would get married is to have kids or I met an amazing woman and she will leave if I don’t marry ( and she is vetted and I trust her… basically top 0.1%)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:45 AM
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Social proof for a man is in part a way for a woman to think you are not a psycho If you are an average or above sized man, then you appear scary to a woman because of the size difference Like imagine a 6’ 5” tall, jacked stranger walks into a bar alone, a lot of men would be intimidated If you know people and appear friendly and those people respond nicely to you, then women think you aren’t a threat to them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:01 PM
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That’s says a lot about them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:52 PM
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Yep Not obese, at least somewhat cute in the face, not crazy and treats you with respect and loyalty, able to hold a decent conversation, has their life somewhat in order, and likes you and enjoys sex with you I think this is roughly the average guys criteria You get into trouble when you allow super meeting one or a few criteria overpower other concerns The classic is the hot crazy girl that a guy puts up with But he is violating one criterion to get a surplus in another
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:34 PM
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The ugly truth is humans are evolved from much lesser animals and we hold a lot of traits that are not as useful now We are super tribal and break into categories easily, people even do it with their brand of phone or truck This type of research goes against the narrative and so you will not see it fully explored except when it makes straight, white men look bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:25 PM
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It is more that higher status guys are less likely to openly talk shit It’s a bad look Ever hang with an older guy that has real money and floats in those circles? If someone starts talking smack about their mother in law or something, they are way more likely to nicely nip it in the bud and move the conversation to something more pleasant. However, this doesn’t mean that they don’t think certain things or use certain things as a guide….without saying it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:23 PM
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Yep Weird that feminists don’t think volcels exist because women are the greatest thing in the Universe for a straight guy Women tend to call volcels “gay” after they hit on the volcel When someone can get women but doesn’t then it fries some wires, especially in smaller towns
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:20 PM
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It would be better if women owned it They heavily prefer traditionally attractive and masculine men (even among bohemian hippies the hottest hippie chick is with the guy with a chiseled jaw, abs, but with dreadlocks too) They will settle though They take into account some other traits, especially money, and that makes them think they have a more well rounded view They are not opposed to casual sex with an attractive male and don’t make these guys try or wait It’s fine, just don’t lie about it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:01 PM
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Good luck I could take on several guys in skinny jeans at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:56 PM
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It’s just the MO of modern, young super lefties Ganging up on people, cancelling people, because they just know they are correct It’s a mental sickness
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:55 PM
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Said every petty despot ever as they went along with “the ends justify the means” until they became what they started out loathing I’m going to suggest that you are a young, confused Marxist that doesn’t know crap about crap
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:47 PM
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As a guy, you can usually pretty easily get women that are 2 or more points below you on a 10 point scale The women will think you are equivalent though I’m probably a 6 or 7 in the face but somewhat tall and fit with other strong traits (good job, funny, etc) I have had multiple sub 5 women obsessed with me and throw themselves at me So, I can have all the sex and companionship I’d like from fat women with mental health issues….lucky me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:18 PM
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Older women and even TV and movies used to send young women a message of caution towards the playboy that sweeps them off their feet only to drop them on their butt Nowadays, a young woman that is a 5 being courted by a male 9 (he only wants sex) would probably be encouraged that she is a queen and that’s probably her forever king
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:46 PM
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The one dimensional political line that people try to enforce…..you’re either left or right…is dumb and caused human stupidity and tribalism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:36 PM
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It happens both ways but how fair you are and how much you stick to logic should not depend upon whether or not you agree with someone or are on the same general political team For instance, once I am detected as likely male independent/not leftist, then I feel a super feminist liberal woman is likely to use any underhanded trick to appear to win a debate (like tangential gotcha questions) If she was talking to a supposed ally, then she would behave and try to address the strongest debate points…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:29 PM
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I had an ex that did this I figured she was afraid someone would tell me about her cheating or past indiscretions or she went through men so fast that she didn’t want others to notice (especially because she dated several men multiple times over the years)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:24 PM
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Hyperfocusing on too narrow a set of traits during vetting is an issue, especially if kindness and sanity isn’t at the top of the list For example, some guy is just too into smart brunettes with shoulder length curly hair When he runs across one of those that likes him back, he’ll be too enamored over those few (nonessential traits) that he might settle for a raging narcissist or something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:44 PM
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I was making an STD joke
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:40 AM
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You can still go to wholesome places and look for women It doesn’t need to be church Join a sports league with women in If you want to find a decent woman, then go where decent women are more likely to hang out Even a card game group is more wholesome than a bar or wild party Work is off limits now, at least in career jobs It used to be common for folks to meet at work but the wokesters ruined that because some times it is bad and they don’t like bad things and so they need to control it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:40 AM
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And you don’t think impregnating (aka no protection) a modem empowered woman isn’t risky?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:34 AM
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Yep Also, asking and making a big deal out of it is exactly how you won’t figure out the truth You’ll likely never get an accurate number So, you just relax, ask innocent questions, seem nonjudgmental, and then wait for her stories and behavior to indicate Likely promiscuous Or Likely not Women think men are very simplistic, despite us, you know, inventing almost everything (including the tampon I believe lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:02 PM
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When women say they want a romantic man Do they primarily mean that they want a man turned on by romance or a man that does romantic gestures?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:41 PM
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We are all a product of our surroundings Are you going off of what men you interact with are willing to say out loud with women present? This is likely not a fair representation of what men actually think and feel. I know all sorts of guys that don’t want a promiscuous woman but end up dating one because they settle for what they can easily acquire given their attractiveness level
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:43 PM
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Men are more romantic than women Men do romantic gestures Women claim to be romantic because they like romantic things being done for them, as if it an interesting trait to enjoy people buying you gifts, taking you places, and giving you attention
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:17 PM
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There’s no reason to get married unless you want kids Otherwise it’s like having a roommate you sleep with that can also ruin your life on a whim
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:16 PM
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You have a pretty flexible definition for “deriding” To deride is to ridicule If you think my brief post reply was ridicule for an entire gender, then that’s super interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:14 PM
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Those are not the easiest jobs, but very far from the hardest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:45 PM
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Similar here If walking behind or towards a woman, I’ll sometimes modify my path so they aren’t threatened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:43 PM
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Women love being approached by hot men And then when men stop approaching they miss being approached by anyone I wear a chest holster when hunting in bear country Random hikers I meet are sketched out and keep looking at my chest, it’s weird but now I know how women with nice breasts must feel
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:39 PM
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All traits a distance second to looks, money, and status and just icing on the cake Like women claiming “I like smart guys” She would likely not be attracted to an ugly guy that has a 160 IQ She is especially attracted to hot men that also are smart…..but she would sleep with a hot dumb guy before she would an ugly smart guy They also bend the definition of attracted….there is attraction for sex and attraction for a relationship Men generally find being attractive only for a relationship but not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:37 PM
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Yeah What’s the stopping criteria? It’s basically blaming even your own emotions on the outside world and having no accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:16 PM
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Women and most of society judge a man in terms of what he contributes to women and children and his ability to attract women We are judge in relation to what women find important, which I guess is unsurprising
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:01 PM
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Or just super thirsty for attention
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:59 PM
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They love attention from hot guys They enjoy and tolerate attention from guys that aren’t creepy or ugly They hate and are offended by the attention of ugly or creepy guys It’s pretty straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:56 PM
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Yeah I stopped reading when he incorrectly drew the conclusion that CLT would cause rare folks (really ugly or really hot) to assortatively mate. Two really hot people pairing is a rare event from a random process. If the CLT affected the outside world in this way (which it doesn’t it just describes part of it), then you could make a case for bizarre things happening in general. I then went to the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:52 PM
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This is false Most men do secretly care if their partner has an “oh yikes” number You folks can keep repeating “men don’t care” all you want, but men with options, self respect, and mental health do care and most will not marry a woman with a huge body count You are going off of the polite lies men tell so as to appear politically correct
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:35 PM
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I get that But that average also includes women that got married out of high school I take into account other factors For instance, a 40 year old with a 10 count is different than a 19 year old with the same number
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:53 PM
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Most guys in the US just don’t want it to cross an obvious threshold For instance, a woman in her 30s sleeping with 20 guys is above average but won’t send most guys into OMG mode as it might match their number But the same woman with a body count she doesn’t m ow but estimates as “over 50” or “probably around 100” will be a red flag for most If the guy rejects a gal over this, then he might give a different reason like “30 minutes drive between us is too much”…..which might lead women to think …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:35 PM
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It also might coincide with modern women seeming to be increasingly promiscuous or promiscuous-acting (flirts with everyone, dresses very provocatively etc) In the past, do you think a churchy guy in the 1950s would feel compelled to ask a churchy gal “so have you engaged any group sex or Onlyfans?”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:27 PM
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A woman that is a master penis-smith is a turn off and their tricks can come off as formulaic and mechanical. If she is too “good” (gives porn star sex) then you kind of can guess at her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:17 PM
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Vermont and NM were obviously pulled out of thin air for illustrative purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:12 PM
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Yeah, both things are possible I’ve seen both One of the most promiscuous women I’ve met is very tall and strong (6 foot, has beat up several men) I always thought she probably had really high testosterone for a woman When single, she hits on men for sex like a pervy guy and owns it proudly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:21 PM
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Add “for me” to the end of that sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:59 PM
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It’s not your problem if the woman is not capable I had 2 GFs like that due to trauma It sucks Otherwise, I want to make then orgasm and get a lot out of it Many men love making a woman orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:53 PM
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The automatic yea category is partly why most men do not trust promiscuous women If your GF has slept with 50 or more men, then if an automatic yes type guy is at her work then he can probably get her to cheat if he decides he wants that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:51 PM
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Yep A woman goes to the mall She might only see one “hot guy” in the whole mall Guys will be attracted enough to look at 25 to 50% of the women there Men love women in a way that rad female don’t understand and that’s sad as it is turned against us Men die protecting women they don’t even know Women will run and might call the cops if you are lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:49 PM
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This is 100% true. Attraction is not self-reflective, but settling is. If you take a woman that is ideal weight and make her gain 1 pound a week for 2 years, she doesn’t magically hit a threshold where her brain changes and she suddenly really digs fat guys. The reason women aren’t attracted to average men is that they don’t have to be. An average woman can easily sleep with a guy that looks like a model but happens to be bored or especially horny. Many plain janes then think they deserve a mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:45 PM
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You can’t understand why a horny person wouldn’t have sex…..you can’t imagine any more complex reasoning Well, then you don’t have the ability to understand what I would write to you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:14 PM
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I dated a girl with social anxiety (seemed almost very mild autism) and was very artistic and was 22 (I was around 27) I was her second and I believe it She wanted sex at least once a day and was highly orgasmic We’ve lost touch and it’s been years, but I guarantee she hasn’t slept with over 20 guys by now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:04 PM
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I’d have no issue with what you’re describing regarding yourself What I don’t want is the girl that has had trains ram by bouncers after last call or just slept with men as a contact sport with happy ending In other words, no one that couldn’t remember their partners if given all day and a pen and paper
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:01 PM
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Actually, the women with the highest notch count often don’t enjoy sex as much and have trouble orgasming This is because trauma or some mental issue is causing them to have a lot is sex alongside sexual dysfunction A woman that consider sex intimate and chooses you to focus on can have a high sex drive and low notch count I’ve had both
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:37 PM
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And women that fall on penises on the way to yoga class all the time are more likely to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:35 PM
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Because you have competing other values and you aren’t making decisions in a vacuum It’s amazing how hard it can be for women to understand men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:34 PM
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What men seek is something independent of sex drive. You act like high sex drive automatically means more sex. It doesn’t or almost all men would be promiscuous or want to be. I want a woman that considers sex something important and intimate and something she wants to do within a relationship. And something she has some self-control around. We all know that if our GF is hot that other guys will try to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:33 PM
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True Height helps and is fetishized by some women But when women say “I like tall men” or “I like smart guys in glasses” they often mean “I like hot men that are tall” etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:28 PM
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Good deal The larger conversation often suffers heavily from what I pointed out “Well men say A and then turn around and say B” And they are actually talking about 2 subgroups of men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:01 PM
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I won’t date a woman that smells or has dirty clothes or body….it’s a primal disease indicator I would date a woman that happened to make a bad hair style or makeup or clothing choice…I would not date that weird girl that wants everything about her to scream 1980s (or something similar) because basing your identity on thing like that is weird to me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:48 PM
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Height is just an elimination factor for some women, few women will date a tall guy that they don’t find attractive for other reasons also
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:45 PM
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I don’t care I’m just describing what I see I thought that’s what we did here I didn’t think this was a “care space” or something
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:41 PM
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Ok I’ll try again I don’t judge a person with a penis IN THE CONTEXT OF DATING PROSPECT because I don’t date people with penises because I’m a straight male And your use of problematic is just classic
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:40 PM
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I am a straight male I’m probably a 6 in the face But I’m 6 foot, 185 lbs with abs while being in my 40s, which is probably top few percent around here But I have male friends that are probably an 8 in the face Women tell them they are cute, hot etc openly in public sometimes (I’ve seen it) Women will also target them sometimes and take them home for casual sex That never happens to me So, if some women aren’t telling you straight to your face that you are hot, then you aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:00 PM
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Yep Women are a lot like us men Women also often like novelty/newness and variety Every guy has experienced a woman that tore their clothes off the first few month until they got used to you/got their hooks in…,,then they are way less interested in sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:56 PM
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The body positivity movement has morbidly obese women getting butt hurt when men that hit gym 5 days a week won’t date them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:54 PM
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And also expressing toxic femininity at the same time They have the crazy woman thing going on already Then they make the mistake in thinking what they value in a man is the same thing a man will value in a woman The hair dye hurts their brains
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:50 PM
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Beware the woman that moved to your town for no good reason, they are often wanting to go somewhere without rumors about them There are obvious exceptions like for school or a better job But the RN from Vermont that moves alone to be an RN in New Mexico (and isn’t like super into aridness or the art there or something)…..might want to be wary
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:44 PM
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I’ve had 2 women accuse me of being gay because I wouldn’t date them after they made it clear that they were interested I can’t imagine calling a woman a lesbian because she wasn’t into me Middle aged women often think men their age are still like the horny guys from their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:41 PM
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“I don’t want to date someone like that” Is not devaluing someone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:33 PM
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Your issue is “we” It makes no sense to talk about a large, diverse group with outputs from many as if it was a single entity But if we narrowed down to where hypocrisy can happen (within the same person or entity making various decisions), then this debate goes away or has to be reframed And that’s not fun
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:32 PM
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It isn’t a double standard if there are two different things Men and women are different For instance, trusting your child around a house cat but not a tiger is not a feline double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:30 PM
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I already detailed earlier a main flaw in reasoning that seems to perpetuate this debate But you gave me an opportunity to talk about the second Assume: I’m a straight male I am looking for a GF I met a woman and judge her body count too high for me to date I met a guy with the same body count I don’t want to date him because I am straight So I don’t judge him unfit for me to date because I don’t date men How is this problematic or hypocritical? Would it make things better if I forced myself to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:22 PM
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Your problem is that you are arguing against a collection of views from a group (men) that are not a monolith. To explain: Take all men as a group Some men are chaste and want a chaste woman Some men don’t care Some men are promiscuous and judge promiscuous women The list goes on You can’t pick one view from one subgroup and pen it against another view and then claim hypocrisy of the group overall. All you are doing is noting that men as a whole have diverse views. There is no male collective wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:18 PM
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An honest 6 foot (barefoot and not cheating) I have lower body fat now at 190 than I did at 155 I was gaunt and my body wanted to grow muscle, so it was easier than most body transformations
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:57 PM
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I had a mini version of this. I went from 155 to 190 lbs in a few years by hitting the gym hard and changing my diet. The difference in how a scrawny vs. a strong looking male is treated is incredible. This is true of both genders. Other men are much more respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:54 PM
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