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You injected so much into this that I didn’t say and made so many assumptions about how things went down and dialed back what I said when it suited you That it is actually creepy You aren’t being obtuse you are being intellectually dishonest in an aggressive way, you are willing to use any foul trick in order to feel that you have won
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:32 AM
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You are taking what I said and dialing it back on purpose in order to be correct No man expects a woman that is flirting with them to start a relationship to then flirt with everyone in the same way afterward And female body movements can be natural or exaggerated to draw sexual attention This conversation is actually insane
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:23 AM
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I went back and looked and your original comment to me did not actually address what I had originally wrote that you were replying to I didn’t say “you can’t learn anything from a 95% CI”…you somewhat can if you actually know the exact mathematical interpretation, which most people don’t that use them and you certainly don’t from our interaction here And I’m not going to write you a book to explain that Then I looked at your comment history to other people and realized that you are consistently …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:14 AM
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Good to see you are consistently an insufferable prick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:56 AM
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I’ll explain, there are people that think they are very smart (you) And there are people that actually are If you do not actually understand the mathematics behind what you are stating, then you do not understand it well enough to have an opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:18 AM
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Explain to me the mathematically correct interpretation of a 95% confidence interval without having to look it up first Guaranteed you can’t because you don’t have a doctorate in a hard science from a tier 1 research university where they paid you to attend, instead of the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:00 AM
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I’ve forgotten more than you currently know And it’s not debatable
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:42 AM
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You’re being obtuse A woman is flirty with you on a date You date You commit She flirts with other men in front of you You don’t like that she acts towards other men like she did when single and after you If you don’t get this, then I don’t have words You’re just trolling a guy because you are a troll or a misandrist or you really have a lack of common sense in this area
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 11:28 PM
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In 3rd world countries, women are busy on real issues and getting practical jobs to avoid poverty Funny that feminism forgets these women Complaining about weird crap (like dolls and the color pink being marketed to girls) is something only a privileged person would consider and these people are often entitled and rude Or lying about rape and income statistics is something only a selfish person without shame would do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:06 PM
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Yep But you don’t know it won’t end once she gets you Actually, when I first met her, she was more reserved because she was trying to impress me specifically Then she used this behavior in part to mess with me I think because it got worse if she was mad at me It was nutty and a low point of my life and I should have bounced earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:59 PM
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Knowing a lot of geography also helps you understand the world and is accessible There’s all sorts of geography games online
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:57 PM
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Yeah Many men are not designed to get to know a woman towards exclusivity if they know she is currently getting railed by several different men a week or month That’s why this post is confusing It says date several men What does that mean? I read it as have casual sex until you meet the one And most men aren’t okay with that when looking for someone to settle down with long term
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:49 PM
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Knowing a lot of stuff helps I love nonfiction media It makes life fun when you know a little about most things around you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:41 PM
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Hobbies and just positive internal dialogue and friends and family I crack myself up all the time Like I’m driving and think of something and just laugh out loud My dog died August 2022 and it was horrible but I’m not ready for another one Same thing after breaks up I always took months off
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:36 PM
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Yeah A dumpster fire drunk chick threw herself at me at a bar, I said “no thanks” A friend saw it and was secretly bisexual and he figured a guy that turns down sex must be gay So he came out to me and tried to bang me that night! I was like “woooaaaahhhhhh”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:28 PM
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The physical side of relationship is downplayed in pop culture Being super turned on by someone brings you back together and smooths out bumps in the road
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:20 PM
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She was the best sex of my life (requested anal about once a week, etc) and I think she did that to blind guys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:17 PM
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They just try to figure me out A few people have given me crap I’ve dated a fair bit but haven’t much in the last decade and am not ugly at all So people find that extra weird and a lot of people think I might be gay (they’ve even said it) even though I’m masculine If I were deformed, they would just feel sorry for me! But a guy that can pull women but doesn’t is seen as weird at least around here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:14 PM
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My brother and I look very similar He’s 5 years younger than me but has a wife and 2 kids He is under so much more stress that everyone thinks he’s the older brother
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:12 PM
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I don’t get super lonely because I enjoy my own company People think I’m weird It’s worse because this is a conservative area and kids and marriage are the primary social gateway
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:11 PM
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As a guy, I would only get married if I wanted kids or I met a legit unicorn/best friend Neither has happened
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:09 PM
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She just loved male attention too much and wasn’t aware of a lot of things Likely BPD Used to self harm and had cut scars up and down her thighes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:52 PM
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For instance, P-values are the probability of observing data as or more extreme than the data set given that the null hypothesis is true Stats folks might know that, less than 10% of the scientists that use those frequentist stats know that Or that the 0.05 p value was plucked out of thin air Or how to interpret confidence intervals correctly Or what “statistically significant” actually means (which is almost nothing) and how that differs from a meaningful affect In fact, even given random data,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:13 PM
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It’s not appropriate to act like a single woman looking for men when you are in an exclusive relationship, especially when your BF is right there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:59 PM
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I think some women are just mean and rude and when called out they say Well, you just can’t handle a strong and sassy lady!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:59 PM
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What movie is the gif from? I remember an awesome animated movie but not the name
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:18 PM
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A female high school teacher here slept with male students her whole career I know several guys that she did this with Everyone knew and no one cares If she had been a male teacher, then she would have gone to jail She did this for decades, retired, then passed away
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:12 PM
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Men are just more likely to be violent across the board It probably does have to do with testosterone acting like gasoline on a bad fire (meaning if the guy has bad impulses)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:08 PM
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Typical But if someone thinks they can just adopt a personality and go all gas no brakes to sassy land Then they will come off bad It has to be calibrated and when it is, it would be weird to use it as an adjective to label yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:53 PM
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Ok Try again, it didn’t make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:51 PM
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Yeah You just made a bunch of assertions as if you are obviously right Super cringe With your attitude, I hope you don’t stay stuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:50 PM
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Are you trying to make a point via sarcasm but no one else gets it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:49 PM
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Exactly But I’m getting downvotes because women are like What? I can’t get my personality from reading female magazines?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:48 PM
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Swayed hips in an exaggerated manner, looked around the room trying too hard to make eye contact with men, would smile seductively at men, would entertain conversations too long with said men and act flirtatiously Basically, she acted like a woman that wanted men to hit on her, but the problem she was there with me (her boyfriend at the time) When swingers come up to you randomly and ask if you want to go have group sex, then that is kind of telling…these were strangers…happened twice..once subt…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:46 PM
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Lady game can go wrong when it is projected too widely and not primarily at the guy you are with or after I had an ex that projected sexuality too much to the room To the point where swinger couples approached us because it seemed like she was trying to generate sexual interest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:14 PM
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Be careful with sassy Women that try too hard there can just come off as a b word It seems it has become the new personality goal for a lot of women I’ve even had women act rudely and say “well i I was just trying to be sassy”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:11 PM
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OK Are you a scientist by chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:35 PM
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Better dip your nads and general area in latex paint for good measure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:33 PM
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Get views by crapping on dumb women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:31 PM
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The fact that you say this like a mic drop is hysterical If you graphed your argument it would be spaghetti
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:30 PM
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Yep The definition of crazy can simply be in the act Let’s say a woman gets gang banged by 50 guys on camera and is into it (she isn’t forced) I don’t care what her reason or back story is She’s crazy by definition because only a crazy woman would do such a thing It’s like eating poop…if you do it of your own free will…then you are crazy, full stop, no argument against that can hold for me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:27 PM
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Lol About letting humanity go extinct I guess if it was just me and her on Earth and we were both relatively young, then I’d knock her up and have sex with her But that’s about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:25 PM
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These women are most likely to find a guy that doesn’t really care about them, is bisexual, or fetishizes them (cuckold, etc) Or a guy with no options There’s a lot of cucks out there so maybe she can find one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:23 PM
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Eh…maybe But data analysis if a form of observation of patterns You can’t just sit in the woods and become an ecologist by observation That’s more a natural historian or just nature lover, and it is somewhat considered “pre science” despite being grist for the mill of others There’s also a huge difference between sciences that are by definition more observational versus those where controlled experiments are easier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:17 PM
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Ok Just giving you one male perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:08 PM
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It’s impossible to know without having an awkward conversation that might be off putting to him Unless it is obviously not, then my default would be to assume good intentions until it is obviously not or a definite pattern emerges Right now, I think you are thinking too much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:55 PM
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I think we are getting to the bottom of why you might have found this a potential red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:46 PM
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Yeah I deleted because I’m mean before coffee some times
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:33 PM
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That’s my biggest subtraction My chin isn’t super weak But it is exactly in line with my brow I got braces young before I grew, had them too long, and they pulled 4 adult teeth I feel that might have caused this Also, I had horrible allergies and couldn’t nose breath
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:31 PM
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Nah Super weak chin is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:29 PM
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You can look awesome without being formally dressed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:27 PM
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They want you to have female friends you hang out with one on one with? That’s weird and sounds like they are just saying stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:25 PM
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Also, you have to be okay with some people just not liking you The only way for everyone to like you is to be overly diffident or a chameleon and neither are authentic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:22 PM
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Start by setting personal boundaries and tell people nicely when they cross them Then don’t be afraid to express opinions I would go slow But you will inevitably go to fat at times, that’s okay and everyone does and it is part of learning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:21 PM
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White Horse by Stapleton In the Air Tonight by Collins
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:19 PM
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It’s annoying Dumb people are very likely to overestimate themselves and have a complex about the whole thing as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:14 PM
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This is also true I have laid waste to someone argument (but still trying to be nice) And they’ll walk away with “we will just have to agree to disagree” The best trait is reveling in changing your mind because it is like breathing out carbon dioxide and taking in oxygen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:12 PM
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My first reaction is that he is mentally disabled and she is his caretaker or relative That’s what I would think of I saw them briefly in public and didn’t get to watch any interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:07 PM
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Not rare enough to care that much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:06 PM
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Neither But tending green He might like you just the way you are, he doesn’t want to dress up himself, or wants the ability to spontaneously take you mini golfing or something active
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:05 PM
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I had a realization about mansplaining I think it might be partly when someone uses physical size and intimidation to try to “win” arguments I’m currently dealing with a dumb ass in another department that is a former college football player and is not obese and weighs well over 300 lbs but still looks strong as an ox He is wanting his way and his arguments consist of word salad said in a deep and forceful voice So, it might happen to everyone but it just so happens that men are generally larger…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:03 PM
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Many scientists use stats wrong or do not know how to draw conclusions from it For instance, classical frequentist statistics are easy but don’t usually mean what even many scientists think these procedures do They act like they are using Bayesian methods when they did not Source: I’m a scientist with a terminal degree and love math
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:37 PM
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I do I know many in real life So it isn’t social media effect I’m a weird atheist in that I just shut up about it and can be around many people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:29 PM
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I know religious couples And at least from the outside, they have the happiest and most respectful marriages I’ve seen…on average Of course you could counter with “but do your really know?” sang like Huey Lewis…..but that can be said of all anecdotal observations data throughout life and basically remove all wisdom and paralyze you So, again, are you 100% is not an argument Because not even a scientific experiment can be 100% And how can you even be certain about a general trend that of course h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:54 PM
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So? Does that mean my thoughts and feelings magically change so that they facilitate some compromise decision better where I change? I’m an atheist and could never marry a religious woman But I’m half jealous of religious couples because they have the best marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:52 AM
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Yeah Um You are talking to different men That don’t all think as a monolith Also, you are awful at arguing fairly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:49 AM
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Yep Their past is kind of a mighty morphing power ranger Like the biggest dick combined with smartest guys brain and then the abs of that dumb jock they banged
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:45 AM
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You are horrible about always picking the weakest point and ignoring the rest and even taking things not in the spirit they were intended Like arguing with a sarcastic magic 8 ball
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:41 AM
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It doesn’t matter If it always goes together it doesn’t have to be a cause to be used for decision making It is rather an indicator or a metric And almost as useful for decision making That’s why you hear people call something an indicator when everyone knows it is useful prior to or without needing to know the exact causal relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:39 AM
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Also STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:26 AM
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This is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:25 AM
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What? You hear of the cuckoo bird? It’s a bird that cucks other birds….see any word similarity and care to guess why that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:24 AM
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Or get an STD which were incurable at the time our brains evolved But feminists don’t believe in evolutionary psychology, when our views from our brain were so obviously influenced by adaptation in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:23 AM
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You’re making good arguments Most people can’t accept probabilistic decision making and just resort to “But you don’t know her” “How can you be sure?” Or some variant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:19 AM
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Yeah Don’t wanna get serious with a woman that settles sexually with a lot of dudes either There’s no way to spin an overly promiscuous woman to make it sound better (so long as it was consensual) There’s literally no argument that works
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:09 AM
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I wanna see a woman with a shirt that says 19 minute hot mess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:05 AM
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Women that have tons of flings and turn men away a lot are also a huge red flag….called man eaters So whether the guys left or she did, sheer volume is bad in either case
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:04 AM
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She took a few breaks Took some slow Got a couple with too many credits She tried for a PhD in mathematics and could do the work (too hard) and dropped out She might be done now She has a few BS and like one or two masters
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:37 AM
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He does He works as an engineer and she has gone to college for 30 years and keeps teaching as an adjunct and getting more degrees He basically supports her But he is not always pleasant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:04 AM
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It’s that marriage and pair bonding and monogamy were socially enforced inventions that made sense on many levels It’s no longer needed so women are acting on primal urges more like before monogamy drastically improved our standard of living The average feminist probably can’t even name a reason that monogamy became a thing across so many cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:09 PM
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It’s gross My coworker is short, bald, mean, with BO His wife came from the Ukraine like 30 years ago Back when it was probably an actual catalog of women She milks him for money and frowns at him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:07 PM
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straight women obviously have the most choices but gay men can have random sex whenever, but glory holes are probably gross
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:57 PM
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I’ve never read any feminist literature that suggest that sometimes women are the source of their own issues in life and cautioned them not to use feminism as an excuse to be a perpetual victim It would be bad for business But it would make it a healthier and more respected philosophy Modern feminism is laughable at times
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:32 PM
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My coworker has a mail order bride She obviously hates him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:41 PM
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40s Young gen x
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:55 PM
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Could be because women like social media but tend to not be as much into porn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:45 PM
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Ok, my point is that it hijacks the brains circuits (which you agree with) and can be very habituating for some people You’re probably lucky if you don’t like it. Like how I don’t like unhealthy food naturally and so it’s a lot easier to maintain my weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:44 PM
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I feel that and it is different now 100% Here’s what works for me I’m naturally right on the edge of too talkative and have to dial it back a bit, I also find humor everywhere and make people laugh I’d sit strategically and be where you can joke and talk with the staff if they are bored and look receptive Kind of be your own party And you’ll usually end up drawing people to you or if not then at lest you amused yourself Don’t take TRP too dogmatically They have catch phrase like “always say less…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:35 PM
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This really doesn’t happen First, a guy can almost always tell what she’ll look like approximately with no makeup I’ve never been startled And we are not talking those crazy no make up views where the girl had a whole face put on and special camera angles Most women only lose 1 point max for me wirhout makeup It’s in part because no makeup has a natural allure so they gain there even if they lose in complexion evenness or something A naked woman without makeup seems even more naked and that’s ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:10 AM
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No concern boxer briefs are fine containment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:51 AM
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A lot of men care I care about my health and my fitness I work to keep both as I get older I also don’t actively want wrinkles or skin blotches, or whatever is more superficial But my health and fitness are more important Few men honestly want to wrinkle up, some might not admit it though My oily skin was a curse when younger but now that I don’t break out I like it, I’m constantly supplied with natural oil of Olay
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:06 AM
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Yep Also online porn is right there with drugs and bad foods and many can’t handle it for similar reasons It’s like now we have to resist so many bad things that it is almost fatiguing I feel like we are constantly resisting all the deadly sins to a degree that has never been seen and it’s only going to get worse In the day, you didn’t have to have as much self control all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:58 AM
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Social media and the phone is a super stimulus that too easily fulfills an instinctual desire and humans often don’t handle that well An example of a selective super stimulus (selective in that only some men like this) are women with those sick triple F implant boobs that are unnatural, it tweaks a natural part of some brains The biggest though are drugs and bad foods We weren’t supposed to be able to release massive amounts of feel good brain chemicals at will that are supposed to be release wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:35 AM
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Lulz Also, at all ages, men are more likely to shart I was once called the chocolate thunder from down under and I’m not even Aussie
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:56 AM
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Maybe it is partly that social media has created weird expectations by making you compare the highlight reel of others to your non curated life while also creating false socialization My only social media is here, a YouTube account, and 2 hobby forums All anonymous except several guys from my hobby forum know my name and location I miss out on some stuff but I like it this way overall
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:34 AM
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I’m explaining how probability works It isn’t personal at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:06 AM
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You are missing the guys like me that are red pill aware and believe a lot of it But disagree with some too And I don’t like labels I have been voluntarily celibate for a while and turn down easy lays where I know the woman wants more So, you are looking at the probability of someone expressing opinions you don’t like given they have a red pill label or the probability they having the label if they say something you don’t like (similar but different probabilities) But that isn’t the probability …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:46 AM
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When conservatives are in power or prior to big business paying lip service to liberal causes, then it was very liberal to not trust govt and business I’m a former liberal and now independent and liberals were easy to play Liberals used to all protest big business or view it with skepticism Business leaders are smart though They just superficially adopted liberal causes and started like putting rainbow flags on things and now liberals trust and defend them Viewing from 10,000 feet, it’s actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:34 PM
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And never tell the LTR guys about any of it? Anyways, thanks for honesty It’s refreshing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:17 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:46 PM
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You assume that I’m unattractive just by pointing something out? Did I say “I” or “men”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:18 PM
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Some of the crap I put up with is insane Thank god I always left Like women asking “hey the guy I was FWB with before we started dating is moving. I want to drop by tonight and bring him a cake and tell him good bye” Of course I was an untrusting shit lord for not liking that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:17 PM
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I feel if prostitution was legal in the US that it would cut down on mass shooters I might be getting the arrows of causality mixed But almost every one is sexless Some guys literally flip shit (if already on the edge) imagining a life with no sex And to preempt, I’m not blaming women for mass shooters Also, annoying guys you hate would fuck off and just bang working girls
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:47 PM
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Why’d they cut the female graph right at super cougar age?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:37 PM
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Nice Thanks for sharing something heart warming
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:34 PM
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It’s pointless Both sides have their heels dug in
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:51 PM
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Once you get caught at it and word spreads You are gonna be that creepy guy on campus
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:45 PM
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They might even freeze part of your sample so that when cancer screenings come out you look and your life insurance payment tripled Hasn’t recent times taught us that trusting powerful entities is dumb ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:43 PM
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Lol You got my point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:00 PM
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I’m a dude But I love my oily skin now My dad has it too and he’s 71 and barely has crows feet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:58 PM
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I belong to a non reddit forum that is hobby specific and small and filled with scientists and engineers Companies 100% troll the DIY section and steal the ideas and parent them Be careful what you put out there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:56 PM
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MGTOW guys that aren’t black pill or incel usually seem the most reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:51 PM
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I think some folks read on hardcore red pill sites that it is okay to lie and manipulate individual women since many women do that to men I’m not into that It’s totally fine to use red pill ideas to navigate life and improve yourself so that you are happier and more women like you though That’s just specific self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:50 PM
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Crap you currently can’t say out loud without someone calling you an asshole and trying to get you fired
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:46 PM
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This is about where I am
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:46 PM
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I have some redpill beliefs but I don’t use women In fact, I’ll turn down sex if the woman obviously wants a relationship And my testosterone levels are fine I guess I’m old enough that the big brain is more in charge I’ve gone a year at a time without sex, it sucks but I don’t die or anything or go crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:42 PM
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Men want to be genuinely wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:39 PM
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Socially stunted men avoid conflict more often and internalize it and carry it as baggage I was like that more before I got over my social anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:23 PM
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23andme and also DNA fingerprinting for crimes also do not analyze your whole genome Those gel electrophoresis pics you might have seen use PCR to amplify certain cut sites and they use enough that for 2 people to have the same cut sites and hence pattern is extremely low Further, people have been caught for crimes via private DNA collection The govt wants all data They will say they throw it away but will keep it, just like your cell records etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:04 PM
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PS when I’ve been in a relationship where the woman was in love or falling in love with me and it wasn’t totally reciprocal, I felt bad and guilty almost It wasn’t nice for me I’m glad I know some women want this scenario (just to know a truth to look for, not that i like the reality of it) Gotta love anonymous women on the internet spilling the beans
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:42 PM
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I don’t think women realize how transparent they often are The gaze of a woman attracted to you is even different And this is especially true the more traditionally feminine a woman is It’s almost subconscious or impossible to suppress for them it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:40 PM
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Verb or adjective?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:38 PM
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I gained 40 lbs of mostly muscle as a guy The difference in how everyone treats me is incredible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:38 PM
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The best way to vet is to not get serious too fast But that’s hard if you actually really like someone From a male perspective, if I really like a woman the idea of her sleeping with other men drives me crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:36 PM
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This sounds good but giving the govt your dna will end badly in 20 years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:35 PM
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Yep They say the same thing over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:30 PM
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Yeah and the whole thing is dysfunctional
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:29 PM
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It works from your female perspective and you might just be rationalizing it Put yourself in the man’s shoes I’m in my 40s and have self control and respect I’ll walk every time once I’m sure I’m way more into her than she is me I will assume it will not change because I’m not wasting 6 months on a what if and a hope
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:29 PM
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It’s actually hot as hell and they don’t know what they are missing Having a woman that takes her sexuality a bit more seriously buck neked and slowly teasing you and building things up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:25 PM
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I’d give up romantic love or any hope of it if I could find a female best friend that loved sex with me and only me and wanted a life together, but we never felt the Hollywood love thing I’d marry her and I don’t believe in marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:21 AM
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It’s sad that some people purposefully look for a relationship in which they are the one that cares the least
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:19 AM
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Yeah doesn’t address my point Short guys that are actually smaller and weaker don’t understand that a 2 lbs bicep spread over a longer bone will look smaller but is stronger than the short guys 1 lbs bicep spread over a shorter bone Also, short guys need to feel tough and posture more often Napoleon complex is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:38 AM
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This along with biology is why women have STDs more often Old Chad is a Petri dish they are sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:35 AM
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That was a big part of the original male complaint Settling down at 30 with a woman that is at your same level and then finding out she used to bang hot randos regularly So you weren’t good enough for that but now that she has woken up and knows what she wants yadda yadda A woman wouldn’t want that either Let’s say she meets a male super model and he’s like “yeah when it was just about sex, I went for the hottest chicks…but I’m getting older and needed to find a woman with a good temperament to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:32 AM
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The thing women do here is assume any guy here that disagrees with them is red pill and believe most red pill Also, they assume any guy that complains about female standards for men are unattractive men and can’t get sex It’s weird If a super model treated like a princess by men complained about how some men treat less attractive women I’m gonna guess that no one would find that weird But even if a guy is good enough looking to be able to get a girlfriend, he is supposed to be content with gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:26 AM
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I’m sure you’ve seen the tinder experiments where hot guys put horrible crap in their profile and then treat the women badly via text and the women still invite them over to smash no strings attached
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:18 AM
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Hence why incel is the new favorite liberal female insult It’s like “y’all are not a series of holes and not to be objectified but you judge men based upon the ability to enter said holes”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:16 AM
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Yep I had an ex that liked tall, slender guys with a bump on their nose (which is me to a T) and she described that before she fully saw all of me (met on match) I was like “yes!“ Anyways, that was her type for the normal guys she was prepared to settle for in the real world I would bet she would like Brad Pitt better though The diversity kicks in once they have to find a type of guy they can actually get
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:22 AM
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Here’s my thoughts Men and women both display diversity in whom is the absolute pinnacle of attraction but tend to agree on whom is generally attractive They also display diversity in whom is not conventionally attractive but flips their switch due to an idiosyncrasy But generally, all men consider old school Victoria secret models hot and all women consider Calvin Klein models hot, they just disagree on which one is tops That isn’t diversity really Once outside the realm of conventionally attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:18 AM
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No way I’m letting people cut my skin while I’m awake
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:05 AM
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Midget quadruple amputee that survived Hiroshima and the blast made her lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:04 AM
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Is that a joke? That’s tiny feet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:00 AM
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Why do kids burn ants with a magnifying glass? To feel power and a sadistic glee and harming what they consider a lower life form?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:58 AM
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I was always relationship minded and did the whole muster up the courage to ask her out and then go mini golfing or something and then nervous passionate kiss after thing The women I went for I knew were single and not party chicks Dated one party chick seriously when I was drinking more Total train wreck But that was much later in life when I should have known better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:48 AM
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Also, women prefer a fat guy over a skinny guy that makes them feel fat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:46 PM
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Yeah, it’s gross to think of your exs out getting railed to get over the breakup while you are instead processing what happened
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:43 PM
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Men are told that if he and a woman are both drunk and consent that he assault her and she can get him locked up based upon regret
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:42 PM
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I think currently people don’t escalate bit by bit like they once did more often Back in the 90s, a woman could be super hot for you but not sleep with you for a while You might spend a month or more getting totally naked and doing everything but oral and vaginal At least I understood the process and wasn’t pressuring, steady increase let me know what would eventually happen It was super frustrating in a good way, when you finally “did it” the anticipation was such that both your brains would al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:32 PM
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Everyone shows attractive men more respect It’s in part why short men often preemptively disrespect taller men, especially if the taller guy is not as stocky as they are Almost every 5’5” 150 lbs guy with short arms of large diameter thinks they could take a 6’ guy that is 190 lbs but his muscles are more spread out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:26 PM
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A lot of guys are perturbed about thirsty men I have a high sex drive, but I know it’s just sex The amount of men that ruin their lives for sex is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:24 PM
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The biggest thing is we no longer grow up and settle down in small communities where we know of people and their reputation and their family background A gal moves to NYC for a job and is lonely She meets a guy that seems great and by the time she actually knows him they might be moved in together etc In the past, if someone drank whiskey and beat women, then you probably had heard that This is why gossip evolved
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:20 PM
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I’m just letting you know Women get herpes on the outer genitals and if you smash your skin against that then you get herpes even with a condom on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:17 PM
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Women often get upset when men pierce the veil of the feminine mystique It’s threatening to them because they lose some power
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:14 PM
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Women can’t stand it that smart men can pierce the feminine mystique Like I’ve wrote before that a guy with a decent sized wiener can tell if their partner had sex that day because the vagina doesn’t return to normal immediately and if you are big enough to usually stretch her then if she suddenly always feels “pre stretched” that that is a data point I mean cuckolds relish this feeling of sloppy seconds from other dudes But nope, women even know how a vagina feels around a penis! They purposefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:08 PM
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Condoms don’t protect against genital or oral herpes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:02 PM
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I’d assume every porn star or escort has genital herpes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:01 PM
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I have and I can’t do it for more than 6 months or so After the newness wears off for both of you, they tend to make you the target of their discontent and the “new and often” sex thing isn’t there to slightly offset it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:58 PM
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Have you tried online dating and being open to decent guys that are 3 to 5 range?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:56 PM
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Go online and be open to male 3s and 4s that are decent guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:54 PM
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Male sex drive is so high that something like social anxiety is seen as cute and endearing Also, a socially anxious woman will still be approached, an anxious male will not and is this screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:52 PM
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I’d say putting a roof on a house is worth 100 lasagnas
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:50 PM
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But have you tested it to see if it could last towards a male romantic partner for let’s say 20 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:49 PM
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If you accept that we are evolved apes then things become more clear Nature is not concerned with human happiness in itself but only as a means to keep us alive and having healthy kids For instance, a tasty fruit makes us happy because it is nutritive while being around sewage is gross because it is a disease vector Romantic love and sexual infatuation (limerance) are fleeting and a means to an end
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:47 PM
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The diversity is in the details that come after “hot” Library chick likes hot guys that are smart and wear glasses Rock chick likes hot guys with tattoos Sorority chick likes hot guys that play sports Etc No amount of smart makes an ugly guy cute, but it might get you settled for What hurts a lot of men is they find their looks and personality match and she is his everything (both average 5 out of 10 gamers or something) and then he finds out she wants the hot frat guy just like Stacey does
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:28 PM
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I’ve never asked either That is not the only metric for caring I care if it is clearly too high, and I figure that just by observation and appearing non-judgmental Folks here act like typical men excruciate over 5 vs 6 No, we can just usually tell 5 vs 130
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:27 PM
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Well, I grew up with a mother that thought cooking lasagna was as taxing as power washing a house using a ladder or shoveling deep wet snow (you know, typical man work). So I just don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:54 PM
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You’re wrong if you don’t think the loudest voices within the modern feminist community do not abuse it or want to abuse it. The movement is now a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:31 PM
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Except in my hypothetical which was somewhat just a “imagine what this guy might think” I explicitly made it so that the person we are to be in the shoes of is an u attractive guy that is not on public assistance So your point about equal use is orthogonal and doesn’t change my somewhat whimsical point (evidenced by me saying I don’t care)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 06:56 PM
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You think that they only mean “believe enough to investigate”? That is white washing history after the original meaning blew up in feminist faces about 10,000 times (about how many repetitions it took for learning to happen).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 06:01 PM
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Would you agree that this is in part because we are all taxed at a higher level to provide a safety net and so women know that they can always use the gov’t to stave off starvation? I don’t care but some male 3s that want to play the provider card to get someone looks at their paycheck and sees a lot of it is taken out with the end result of women not needing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:26 PM
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Chris Rock had this as the premise in a major joke/dialog in a comedy special from over a decade ago
/r/TheRedPill04/03/24 05:20 PM
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Nope And this is where it gets twisted Not asking doesn’t mean we don’t care It means we know how things work and that you will not get the truth and then make them guarded and weird Here’s the thing that should be mentioned in other related threads: Smart guys with experience can tell by your back story, stories, and behavior whether or not you were likely highly promiscuous or likely not The trick is to have a high enough decision threshold that once high promiscuity is believed then the chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:09 PM
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I’m caricaturing Like I wouldn’t be surprised if you do yoga and wear a copper thumb ring with a hammered finish
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:26 PM
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you can’t argue your way out of a wet sack I in no way said I am upset people like sex See some folks see logical fallacies and dirty debate tricks a mile away because we were studying and not aligning our chakras during bi sex orgies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:59 PM
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If I lost my testicles and had zero sex drive, there is no way I would marry or date So, I would say that sex drive is the primary thing I guess I would miss cuddling or hugs or physical touch but I’d probably just get massages and a dog
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:57 PM
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Shouldn’t I believe all women and take them seriously though? I am confusion Anyways, you and I both know there are people that actually do consider various sex acts and swinging and such as hobbies Alternative lifestyle special snowflakes just bend reality and words into whatever shape they want or need them to be in the moment though, it’s kind of a hallmark
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:51 PM
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Everyone knows what the baseline is in wider culture People surround themselves with like minded people when they are different and lose track of a lot or just wish it to be so I guess as long as I don’t have a formal study about common sense then you are free to assert whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:48 PM
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That is fine for casual relationships Men with no sexual hang ups regarding such things regarding committed relationships are usually not a typical masculine, cisgendered straight male I think that certain brain architecture, hormone levels, and past experiences just form most men to be like me and to think you are just saying bizarre stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:36 PM
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I have turned down multiple women because they dated a friend in the past Men with self control do this all the time It’s called not complicating your life for an hour of fun
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:29 PM
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Some folks here think when it comes to men at least that we are to apply strict logic to our basic instinctual reactions and then modify them at will thusly This is only suggested when it helps their position Other people in other situations are allowed to have preferences I think these folks just don’t understand the dark recesses of the typical male psychology and male interactions Yeah, sitting on the couch with your lovey dovey right across from your buddy that was inside her like a month ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:27 PM
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If you consider casual sex an actual hobby then you are really boring or unskilled or depraved Even when I was having the most sex of my life and the best, I would only list it as a hobby if I was trying to be funny
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:18 PM
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Yep, sex is like really slippery ping pong It’s funny how “Sex and fun and just like other recreational activities or even jobs” Is smuggled in as a first assumption in SJW and other arguments Here’s the thing, just because 2 things have a few common characteristics doesn’t mean you can automatically make them equivalent for the sake of all arguments I imagine thinking like this and I just feel a vacuum
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:16 PM
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I've been in 7 LTRs. 2 I'm pretty sure cheated but I have no smoking gun proof. I never cheated once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:21 AM
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All attempts at quantifying this relying upon anonymous surveys, with the best being large and random samples. However, you cannot remove the bias of the people questioning lying. And you cannot be sure that men and women would lie at the same rate. I would suspect women to be more likely to lie even on an anonymous survey when it comes to matters of sex. ​ A better survey question might be "has your closest friend ever cheated?" since people would be more truthful about another person. ​ Guess …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:13 AM
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What would happen if this was real though would be the guys would string her along, have some sex, and then just fade out and never let on or give some BS excuse. Then she'd think "hey we gave it a shot and it just didn't work out" and never know the actual reason why or hamster away any doubts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:29 AM
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Here's how women concoct what they will claim as their n-count to current guy: they think of all the men that they were with long enough that new guy will hear about them from family/friends/whatever and then add all those as a plus 1 then they look at how many single years are in there causing gaps in their story from #1 above, they then sprinkle in a few shorter term relationships to make it sound believable (and that they weren't celibate for years on end) and might even admit to a few ONS or…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:22 AM
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I'm sure you've seen the real life videos and memes where one overweight woman is in a poly relationship with like 3 guys that are all hideous neckbeards and they schedule hand holding and sex nights.....what would George Washington think of his sacrifices?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:13 AM
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But of course, they have catch phrases for that also ​ "he doesn't deserve to know because he shouldn't care" "it's my personal business and he shouldn't care anyway" ​ the list goes on ​ I think that's a main role of female media now: provide women with snappy comebacks to common scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:03 AM
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Well, true hypocrisy is the same person getting bent out of shape over thing A when someone else does it but are okay when themselves or another group does A. ​ So, a better analogy would be men using porn and getting bent out of shape when their lady uses porn. ​ A woman participating in a gangbang is just fundamentally different than a guy watching a woman be gangbanged on film. It's just two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:55 AM
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You point out an interesting solipsism: ​ Women often don't really care if their super hot BF banged a lot of chicks ​ So, since they fancy themselves a quality woman, they imagine men are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:23 AM
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I want to see a group of really short men start a companion where through various articles they just start asserting over and over: ​ "real women don't care if a guy is 5 foot or 6 foot 2 inches, it's all the same to them" ​ Then they organize and go online and just start arguing this all the time, trying to make it a self-fulfilling thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:18 AM
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First it started with articles and sentiments like "men should not care" and "men are wrong to care". Then it became, "you don't want a man that cares". Then it slowly morphed into women just asserting "men don't care" as if it is like a magic spell they just have to keep repeating until it comes true. A 100 men online can be like "yeah, I care and a lot of men do care they just aren't telling you". And they resort to "most men don't care and the ones that do are insecure". ​ Then you can setup …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:16 AM
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Yeah, they just resort to lying or obstinate denial on here. ​ I and a hundred other men can say: ​ "We have talked to a lot of normal men outside of like artsy fartsy club promoters in NYC that are bisexual, and the vast majority of traditionally masculine men prefer a woman not to have slept with so many men that they are clearly in "dang WTF?!" zone. Yes, some of our friends have dated or married promiscuous women but often they didn't like it and they had to overlook that and it still gave t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:08 AM
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There might be cultures where women are more okay or just have to accept men cheating, but there are not many cultures at all with any sizeable percentage of men are okay with their wives banging other men (unless you focus solely on the soy cucks of San Fran or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:00 AM
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With the long hair and sandals, he was probably a hipster and doing it ironically like "hey look at me, son of God, clowning these hos....lol".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:58 AM
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It's funny that given all their rhetoric, women judge men largely upon his ability to stick his penis inside of them. I thought of before why this was so hilarious/ironic/hypocritic but I can't think of anything now. It kind of speaks for itself though that a feminist will say "don't objectify me" in one second and then defame you for not being able to stick your penis in a woman in the next breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:55 AM
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You know what's funny to me? The very top men that have options like an average woman (these guys are top 1 to 3% I'd guess) date women the way that women often date average men. And women hate them for it and call them assholes. ​ I wonder if any of the women here introspect and realize the power dynamic if her and her partner are both dead average. She should know that she can replace him easier than he can replace her, unless she's just lying to herself. Does this affect how she views him or …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:48 AM
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Times have changed. In the past at least outside of large cities, if a man met a woman and he knew that she was currently casually sleeping with other men, then he was often unlikely to consider her for a serious relationship. I can't wrap my head around modern men meeting a woman that is currently sleeping with 3 guys in rotation and he wants her to pick him as her steady number 1. I mean is this acceptance just a grim reality, a result of internet pron, or a byproduct of lowering testosterone …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:43 AM
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Like her top pick among every man she's ever known or what? I think that is way too high a bar and you'll never know that. ​ Or do you mean "of all the guys she is talking with/interested in in that exact moment that are near her, she wants you more than the others"? ​ If you can find a woman that is not sneakily communicating with other "just friends" guys to have backup plans, then that's about the most you can ask for these days. Even that is decried as controlling. Men are supposed to be so …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:28 AM
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This is why women typically prefer the look of a guy that is just naturally strong, even if he helped it along in the gym. If I was super jacked now but was a string bean in school, I wouldn't show women those old photos to note the change. They will subconsciously register that you have crap genetics that you had to work your way out of, and the kids you guys have might not have the same drive and thus be reproductive dead ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:23 AM
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The survey result that really sank my desire for marriage was this, and it's easy to find so I won't quote a source: ​ When surveyed anonymously and asked ​ "If you were 100% guaranteed that no one would find out, would you commit sexual infidelity?" ​ Right over 70% of men (if I recall around 72%) said "yes" that they would. And right under 70% of women (I think around 68%) also said "yes". ​ So, even if I don't get divorced and neither of us actually cheat, then my big prize is probably a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:15 AM
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Ok, then I didn't make sense out of what you wrote that I quoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:04 AM
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I don't know how to say this gently, so I'll just say. I hope this does not come off as victim-blaming because that is not my intent. ​ It is a problem that no one sees you as a threat. ​ Now, I'm not billy bad ass by any means. I'm above average size and work out, but I'm not a huge guy. And I'm not mean. And I don't have a reputation for fighting. However, I think anyone that knows me well, regardless of their size, might be afraid to be in the room with me if they totally betrayed me and fuck…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/24 01:07 AM
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It's very hard to figure out the arrow of causality in observational studies. The takeaway for me is that whether A causes B or B causes A or they both help cause each other, the presence of A is an indicator of the higher chance of B, so it doesn't influence how I act on the information all that much.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/24 09:43 PM
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Well, if you want to have an actual discussion with someone that doesn't already agree with you, then at some point you're going to have to use agreed upon definitions and articulate your points and even your underlying assumptions clearly. ​ I don't know if that is what you are referring to as "black and white thinking" but based upon the fact that your replied to me and that your avatar is female, I'm going to assume that you disagree with me and are shitting on me. ​ Non-black and white think…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:08 PM
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If you're okay for someone loving you primarily for what you provide for them, that any other provider could do including the gov't in the form of a check, then that's cool. It's not my idea of love. But to each his own. You put traditional man in your flair, so I know that I'm tugging at your self-identity. I understand how that is uncomfortable. Feel free to end the conversation. We're too different to ever come to any agreement on anything or even talk civilly and fairly. The internet and lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:55 PM
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There's plenty of movements that were better and served a purpose and then went downhill by a combination of internal and external forces. Online atheism (I'm an atheist) is a good example. ​ Regarding theredpill here, it has been totally banned by reddit and also attacked multiple times. Also, look at what feminists and extreme liberals did to anyone that was upset at all about not getting laid. Now, unattractive men are supposed to just suffer in silence or be likened to school shooters. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:38 PM
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It is part of who he is just like on Wednesday when I take out the trash, I am a "trash taker out". I think you should get my point by now, but are just being a bit obstinate on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:22 PM
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at one time, there was a lot more to it than just grifters, there were people that put out massive amounts of content for free and anonymously I didn't act like they were the first to ever say this, did I? In fact, I at least implied that it was around but they helped to popularize it, if not in some part due to them causing a controversy which caused people examine and comment on the movement. I somewhat agree with you that now that my eyes have been opened, that a lot of this now seems like co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:05 PM
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Men's rights/TRP/etc were much bigger a few years back but the whole thing seems to have imploded. It drew controversy and discussion of ideas that were repressed or ignored. It was eventually attacked by SJWs and they tried to cancel it. In fact, I commented on TRP the other day for the first time and was insta-banned by several subs here that monitor any user that posts there and then blocks them. ​ There are videos on youtube talking about aspects of it and mentioning it by name with millions…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:29 PM
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It's partly anti-slut defense and also having power. It goes so far that many women won't even compliment a guy that is above average that they are dating. ​ A youtuber once comment "a lot of women are not good at their sexuality" and I think this is true, but they usually blame society or men for this. For instance, I've had several GFs that were tough to get to orgasm and they refused to tell me anything and thought I should just get it (as if all women are the same in that department). They p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:02 PM
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No, because he could die and the gov't put the same amount of money in the woman's account every month and nothing would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:15 PM
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"in the home" ​ Who does work right outside the home? Such as: mowing the grass, sealing the driveway, shoveling snow, etc. Women will watch their husbands slave in the hot Sun all day and think they did their part by bringing him a lemonade. ​ Could it also be that men realize that deep cleaning the house constantly is just a waste of time? I don't keep my floors clean enough to eat off of because that is why we invented dinner plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:13 PM
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The common observation is that men are more likely to like things about a woman that are centered upon her and can't be removed from her (like money or status can be) and enjoyed separately from her or something that could be lifted off her like a robe and put on someone else. ​ Good men that actually love a woman will be infatuated with her as a person. Even her looks are part of her personhood and cannot be enjoyed except as part of her. ​ In contrast, women are more likely to like things abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:03 PM
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I'd suggest maybe you just aren't good at explaining things in a clear way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:53 PM
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You're just being a Monday morning QB. The red pill and manosphere has been going on long before you were probably aware of it. And a lot of men prior to that didn't see through the BS that culture always pushed on men. The manosphere got people talking about all this stuff way more, even if the people doing so didn't mention them. So way more men now get it than before. But you want to pretend it was always common sense. Or maybe it was always common sense to you or a smaller percentage. Your v…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:51 PM
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Yeah, it's like now that the redpill and others have explained the feminine mystique and how it is kind of BS ​ the blue pillers or some such jump out of the bushes and say "well why wasn't all that stuff obvious to you as lies to begin with like it was for us?" ​ Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:46 PM
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And so they repress that information, and then when men are perturbed by this then we are to blame as well for not "just getting it" and seeing their lies for what they are....it's dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:40 PM
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no, your viewpoint and logic isn't specified enough to put handles on it so that it can be addresses....then you complain when people actually tease out your argument for you so that it can be formally discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:38 PM
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again, you're blaming people for not seeing as obvious lies they were told since they were toddlers...and lies that other people still believe...it's somehow wrong to point all this out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:37 PM
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" What none of them seem to realise is that all those other women are someone else’s girlfriend, wife or daughter too. When you point out his chaste little girlfriend sent nudes to her last boyfriend and did anal with him and let him record it and he probably still has those recordings and jerks off to them daily, and the girlfriend refuses to do anal with the new guy, men lose their minds in a jealous rage. " ​ How is this not a rational reaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:26 PM
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oh yes, the sex that obsesses about the appearance of everything (clothes, home decor, etc).....is less visual when it comes to sex and men ​ nope, it's that for a man to get a woman revved up just by looking at him, he has to be very attractive....and most women cannot be with very attractive men because those men are in short supply and most women aren't attractive enough to snag one ​ so this entire fiction has evolved to explain women settling with men that they aren't that hot for and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:23 PM
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sorta like how a little bit of alcohol use improves peoples health now in part because it helps them deal with stress....but it would be better to not have the stress to begin with? basically, i'm saying your point can be interpreted as "a lot of relationships are so fucked that you have to go all gas no breaks on trying to keep the sex life alive by bringing other people virtually into the bedroom."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:19 PM
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you see....there's these little things called self-control and having a conscience that modern extreme leftists have wanted to destroy in all ways over time....until people having self-control and a conscience benefits them in some way or furthers their own worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:16 PM
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I didn't say it was not a culprit, if you read what I said carefully. Obviously, it is part of the puzzle and a foundational one. I'm saying that it was not as disruptive to society and male-female dynamics until all the other pieces fell into place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:13 PM
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Dude, you're spineless and overly understanding and you wear that as a badge of trust and enlightenment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:11 PM
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It's just a mate guarding impulse. ​ Here's the thing, it's only in relatively recent times that either men or women thought it was acceptable for either one in a relationship to discuss other people sexually in anyway besides a passing "she looks beautiful in that gown" or something (and even that might not be appreciated). ​ I noticed a thing start probably in the late 1990s where married or committed people would discuss their celebrity crush with their partner and how attractive they were an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:07 PM
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Yeah, I think you are just weird (or virtue signaling liberalness and open mindedness to the point that your brain fell out). You remind me of a guy that would say "hey, my best friend just told me that he fantasizes about killing me and drinking my blood, but he's really nice to me and promises not to ever do that, so we're good."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:56 PM
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You tried to prove that it was all about the man's insecurities, but your entire framing is corrupt. Also, you likely think it is much more okay for a woman to have an insecurity and bad for a man to knowingly trigger it. ​ Of course, if a guy cares about his woman watching porn then he cares even more if it is something that could be an indicator of how she really views men sexually or what she ultimately desires. You would like to conclude from your experiment that if men were not insecure tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:51 PM
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Or they just don't really love their wife or their version of love is dysfunctional. ​ No mentally well, straight guy that actually loves his wife in a healthy way wants to see her get gangbanged and actually follows through with it. ​ This is simply a matter of definitions. It's like if I see someone smack their kids, they are abusive by definition. I don't care about their long backstory that tries to explain it away based upon stress and their upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:45 PM
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Horrible paradox: every girl I've dated that let me have sex easily and had a high sex drive and did freaky shit was also the type of girl that I couldn't trust and that I would think would have a high chance of cheating on me. Highly sexual women are more likely to cheat on average, and the connection between the two things can't be denied by an honest person.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/24 03:26 AM
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Online dating isn't totally the culprit. I did Match.com back when it was kind of shameful to admit and you had to pay $30 a month and we all used flip phones. A lot of the sins of the current scenario were present, but to be on their despite the stigma and pay for the experience meant most people were semi-serious about it. The free and popular apps on the ever present internet connected smart phone and the widespread popularity of it is what poured gasoline all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:43 AM
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I live in a constitutional carry state filled with rednecks, so a practical concern is that if you screw someone's wife that there is a non-zero chance they will shoot you. I don't care how bad of a dude you are or how beta the hubby is, he can hide in his car a block away and shoot you in the back with his deer rifle and there's nothing you can do. You can't live your life in a way where you are invulnerable to an angry male that is intent on doing you harm. ​ I think city dwellers or people th…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/24 11:13 PM
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I keep this in mind: none of this evolved in order to make anyone happy as a goal. It was to pass on genes. If you don't find it all super satisfying, then that isn't surprising because it isn't there for that.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/24 11:11 PM
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In other words, a woman with borderline or the traits pretty strongly.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/24 11:09 PM
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It has been studied and you can find it on google in 2 seconds, look up how testosterone levels vary by geography.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:08 PM
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I don't see how you disagree with me then. A 6 foot tall guy might not be huge by USA standards, but absolutely towers over the average male from Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:36 PM
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The problem is this: how many women are worth the colossal effort that you just described? I'm not doing that for 99% of the women I've met.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/24 10:34 PM
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You keep digging your hole deeper by not understanding my fundamental point and your own inability to modify your views. Bye, Roo....I hope you have some sort of awakening that gets you out of your own head a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:11 PM
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I'm sorry, but you are simply wrong here. It would be obvious to a sufficiently intelligent and dispassionate outside observer. You need to read more about formal logic and reductio ad absurdum. ​ You have a kernel of truth, but your statement is not sufficiently specified in order not to be easily defeated. ​ Instead of fighting this, I suggest that you learn more about actual thought and philosophy. You are just being stubborn and not wanting to admit the obvious. I have been formally trained …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:36 PM
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I didn't know Aussie women were so stubborn. I am using a very well-established technique in logic called reductio ad absurdum. ​ I agree that most men do not care that much so long as the number is somewhat reasonable. This however does not mean that "n-count does not matter." ​ In math and logic, to prove a statement, you can assume its opposite and show that it leads to something ridiculous and that proves the statement. Or if you want to disprove a statement, which is what I wanted to do, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:49 PM
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See my previous point that you are assuming "typical n-count" within this debate. Go pick a random Aussie guy, hook him up to a lie detector machine (even if they don't work it'll scare him into being more likely to tell the truth), and ask him "there are two Sheilas that are exactly the same, except one has slept with 5 men and the other with 150, which one would you rather marry?" ​ We both know the result of this and that it doesn't support your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:40 PM
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Did I in anyway state that it is a good thing or that people should try to do it? No. I do think it sometimes can be necessary in life, and honestly sometimes it might be a good thing (parents manipulate their kids all the time to do the right thing). Here's the thing, you have a mental block that only people on your team can be smart or decent people. You also aren't interested in having an honest discussion with someone that disagrees with you and maybe learning, you just want to win and confi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:32 PM
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Nope, I'm simply trying to get you to realize it is a matter of degrees. Of course, there is a level at which it is too much, and also a level which even the HOLY YOU is participating in it. Your perspective is obviously devoid of any such nuance. ​ Good ahead and throw slurs and act like they are arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:21 PM
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where you live and the pool in which you swim will largely determine what the men around you think and also (more importantly) what they are willing to say out loud....as a tangential example....do you think that the people of San Francisco represent the nationwide average of people that are trans or the average for people that are okay with biological men using the locker room with young girls? the answer would be no.....do you think the people in San Francisco that don't want biological men in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:14 PM
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No, you need a class in logic and a commitment to self-honesty and growth. ​ I did not say "everyone lies/manipulates all the time." I said everyone does, which would entail simply "at some times." ​ You have admitted that you do lie at times, just not all the time, therefore you have admitted that you sometimes manipulate people, and you have basically admitted that my original statement is correct. ​ I want you to consider that you think all men are dumb and that men on reddit that disagree wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:06 PM
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You are basically following a common lie pattern that is like "penis size doesn't matter." ​ Okay, so that statement would indicate that a 1" and a 9" phallus are equivalent as are all sizes in between, and that is obviously false. If the statement isn't a lie, then it means that "within the realm of the typical size, most men can get to where they can please a woman." But that is a very different statement. ​ Back to your n-count view, your view if actually employed would mean that most typical…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:00 PM
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It's the truth. Crap is not an argument. ​ You're like someone claiming that they never lie. Bullshit. You tell small lies probably almost every day. ​ Have you ever lied? If you say no, then I'm going to laugh in your face. What do you think a lie is if not a manipulation? ​ A lot of young people are the product of a participation trophy society that tells them they are brilliant when they are not. You simply overestimate yourself and are not interested in actually becoming a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:55 PM
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You're either brainwashed or purposefully not understanding me and not addressing my actual points. Therefore, there is nothing for either of us to gain from this interaction, other than frustration. ​ All you are doing is coming to an emotional conclusion that you want to be true and then trying to use logic to put legs under it because you can't stand the prospect of your worldview changing in a way that you have not pre-approved. Men do this as well at times, but it is observed by many that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:51 PM
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Honestly, everyone is manipulating people on some level. If you don't see that in yourself, then you're either the Buddha or self-deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:45 PM
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Other men simply aren't talking about it much especially in real life because there is nothing to gain from it. I talk about it anonymously because people thinking dumb shit is annoying to me. I'm far from a virgin, but you have to believe this in order to preserve your worldview. You're much like other women here that will respond to a guy that makes a detailed post with "more red pill drivel" and they think that is just an argument but it only pleases people that already agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:42 PM
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You don't know of all the opportunities a woman has lost because of this either because the guy just avoided her altogether due to her reputation OR because the guy had enough class to let her down easy once he found out. ​ So, some highly promiscuous woman still has loser men approach her that have low standards or total man sluts or guys that fetish her behavior or whatever....and she finds some sort of happiness with one of those but never knows what she missed. But "yeah" it didn't hold her …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:38 PM
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Good deal, I agree with this. ​ I just got flashbacks of Oprah et al telling women that their emotions are basically the best thing in the Universe and to ignore everything in favor of them. Which is basically ridiculous advice that can only be followed by someone that is benefitting from countless past generations that did not follow this same advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:35 PM
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Sure, your emotions are useful. However, I don't get the sense that you realize what they actually are, which is the preferences and urges of our more animalistic instincts coming into being. Dogs have emotions, most sufficiently complex animals do, and it was guides their day to day seeking of various things that satiate them. They are the most primitive parts of ourselves that are now celebrated as enlightenment in a way that is somewhat non-sensical at time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:02 PM
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Do you think this might have something to do with average physical size and also masculinity (testosterone levels)?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:51 PM
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It's obvious why things evolved as they did. It is also obvious that once you change technology that the old genetic programming is still in place. ​ You could build me the most realistic female sex robot that I could not tell from a real woman, and I would not want anything to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:30 PM
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For a serious relationship, I would prefer a woman to be non-political or somewhere in the middle with interesting takes on individual issues and an open mind towards discussion without getting upset. ​ I would never marry a highly progressive/liberal woman OR a highly conservative or religious woman. They would just come off as brain washed/closed minded to me and too different from myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:28 PM
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Women saying "n-count of women doesn't matter for relationships" should realize that they are speaking about the internal state of men and should consider recognizing they might need to stay in their lane a bit and maybe care about how men feel a bit more. Just like they want for an issue they might have. ​ Also, whether n-count matters needs context, ​ Is it: ​ in general, like how good of a person they might be as a friend, co-worker, dog sitter for casual sex for dating with no marriage for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:26 PM
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If you want to be an ethical guy and please women, then always be honest. I think women here might not realize how much other women (and even themselves) lie to men as a strategy and that it is largely condone because they subconsciously favor women so heavily. ​ If you simply want to get laid, and don't care what anyone thinks or the fall out. Then the average guy is best to adopt what I'd call "evil beta game." Basically, you lead a woman on that you are great relationship material and that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:00 PM
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" But why do most guys want to be this guy rather than have a long-term relationship or possible marriage? " ​ Huh? I would say even guys that don't want to be F-boys would like it if they COULD be an F-boy and their GF/wife viewed them with the same attraction that F-boys get. ​ 2 things can be true at the same time so long as they are not mutually exclusive, and your entire post pretty set yourself up for someone to point out the obvious here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:46 PM
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Yep, basic common sense is now misogyny or racism or something. ​ Let's say me (as a slightly taller and more in shape than average white guy) starts to date a woman. She slowly lets on that every boyfriend before me was a black basketball player with at least 9 inches, then I would be a fool to not be concerned about likely not really being her type. ​ The "but she chose you now" reply is so dumb. ​ Let's reverse it, and a somewhat pudgy latina discovers her current boyfriend only dated petite …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:43 PM
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For whatever reason? If you can't understand why you really, really being into this stuff would bother the average man, then you simply have low empathy and understanding for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:39 PM
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There are modes of painting where the art is somewhat "about the paint." My good friends sister is a trained fine artist and would paint some heavily layered abstract oil paintings and that was part of explanation of it. ​ Similarly, if you put on too much makeup, then it is no longer about accentuating your natural looks but is rather "about the paint." ​ I don't think it is hard to understand that the most beautiful women to most men are using a touch of makeup to accentuate their natural beau…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:28 PM
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I think it is pretty simple. Things like scars or a weathered look is "masculinizing". ​ Imagine a somewhat attractive man, and now add a scar that goes from his ear down his cheek. Now do the same thing for a similar woman in your mind. ​ The scar has less of an impact on the man and might even make him seem interesting and tough. ​ It is because things like scars, wrinkles, and tattoos even (which in our subconscious I think present as scars and such) are masculinizing. ​ PS Ladies this is why…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:24 PM
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So, you're saying it is more of a step function/dichotomous rather then something continuous and so "all else being equal" used in most thinking does not apply here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:21 PM
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I wouldn't take this too far. ​ I currently consider myself pretty neurotypical (I guess it is a spectrum). But my parents were both raised by WW2 veterans with PTSD, and I had a bad stutter as a child that I've overcome. This caused in me strong social anxiety that I don't think was genetic because it is now totally gone (at least in hindsight I consider this the cause but it is impossible to know for sure). ​ It wasn't until I was around 30 that I overcame this and was able to really effective…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:18 PM
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Everyone has to learn something new at some point in their lives. What I mean is, if someone has knowledge A, then by definition there was a time when they did not have knowledge A. It wasn't until my 30s until I learned how to tease women in a platonic way without going too far and how to open up a little without going too far. Then add in a splash of masculinity and confidence, and it's basically female catnip and most women will really like being around you even as just friends/co-workers. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:13 PM
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Complexity is so overrated. Here's an abstract take on it. ​ In complex systems, any additional feature tacked on can potentially interact with all previous components. This can create what is sometimes termed "combinatorial explosion". For instance, if you have a system with 3 interacting elements, then you might say there are 3 x 2 = 6 interactions (if A interacting with B is distinct from B interacting with A and A does not interact with A). Increase that to 4 elements and it doubles to 4 x 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 04:59 PM
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You don't see how incredibly self-serving that is and divorced from the personhood of the guy? Gee....when I was a teenager and my parent's were desperate to rekindle the connection that with me as a child, I should've dropped the whole "Well, the way I will feel love from you is if you buy me a brand new Mustang 5.0." ​ You can dress it up with love language or whatever, but it's still BS. ​ But let's say women evolved so that more of them legit have that as their "love language". Well, they sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:05 PM
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Your post screams "angry Karen that sides heavily with women in nearly all regards".....the type that assumes a man must have done something wrong when he sees a woman abusing him in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:42 PM
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Yep, when you see an ugly guy with a hot woman, people are legit shocked and typically think the guy must be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:05 PM
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I have 2 very close male friends that I've known since childhood that are also close friends with each other. ​ Both of these guys are married. In both cases, their wives are 100% threatened by the bond that we share and do little things to disrupt it. Or big things, like the worst of the wives often insinuating that we are all secretly gay (in a joke that is not a joke). ​ It seems that they want to be their husband's only source of emotional comfort so that they gain more control.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:58 PM
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Which statement? ​ The first is because I feel that love is somewhat sacrificial and protective on some level and about the intrinsic traits of the person. I never felt cherished by a neurotypical woman that I dated. It was too much about her and her needs. ​ As far as the autistic woman, she just wasn't overly emotional in a stereotypical female way. In some odd way, it's like she could shut off her emotional rollercoaster and just see me as I truly am.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:55 PM
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That when I appear more wealthy that I get tons of attention, since I'm past many women's looks threshold. I'm not some fat guy in a Porsche. I go from something like "that guy is cute" to a way more intense reaction, when I look like I might have a lot of cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:53 PM
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I experienced this in my own life. I started lifting heavy and eating more and went from 6 foot and 155 lbs to 195 lbs in about 2 years. I was underweight for my body's set point and so putting on muscle was easy at first (I just never viewed food as this tempting reward). ​ I was already decently attractive in the face (6 or 7), but after gaining a lot of size and going from weak to strong looking, I get at least 10 times as much attention from women now. ​ It's nice, but it makes me realize ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:50 PM
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This thread ironically illustrates a lot of things that are common female behaviors yet are not particularly functional, and the women/bluepillers here are proudly displaying these things with zero ability to self-reflect. Men here are stating: "I became friends with a woman with good intentions and then developed feelings for her and was honest with her about this. Then she didn't handle it very well and was upset (etc)." ​ Instead of even pondering for a second that maybe the guy has a point o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:27 PM
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No crap You read my post and thought I didn’t understand that? But if someone has really dumb aims that they work logically towards Then that does not reflect upon their meta-awareness? As stated, this entire thing is just going to be people using fluid and hidden definition to help their argument And as usual, people on Reddit think they are super smart because they might be in the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:48 PM
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The default psychological setting is to be more feminine I don’t think most therapists understand men or want to or want to help them become strong men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:45 PM
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Most illegal immigrants are young men from strange cultures It will mostly increase the number of sexual assault as Europe has seen It might help out some older cat lady types though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:44 PM
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If acting callously to achieve your goal is logical, Ted Bundy was logical Or someone that sacrifices everything for their love of stamp collecting is also logical We’d have to carefully define our terms and then get into decision theory to discuss this properly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:43 PM
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I’m straight as hell but I’ve often envied gay men They get to feel the romantic love of a man which from a healthy man is what people actually define as love Men and women love differently and female romantic love does not feel like true love to me The only exception was a girl I dated on the autism spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:40 PM
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The basis of our society is rooted in the biological truth that lower class men should be disposable utilities (from an evolutionary perspective, I’m not saying I agree). To challenge that is to challenge the religious beliefs of someone that built their entire lives on religion. There is no way they can accept it easily because it will remove the foundations of their lives. By the way, both pills are wrong. It’s just that blue pill is so wrong that it is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:37 PM
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This is BS. Maybe you just aren’t very physically attractive. I’m probably about a 7 in the face but taller than average and fit. Probably an 8 body wise. If I go out in a nice suit and/or borrow a friend’s sports car, then the increase in female attention is hilarious. I’m literally eye fucked in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:34 PM
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Bad social anxiety can make someone appear on the spectrum when they are not and also prevent them from learning effectively from social situations. But of course I don’t want to interfere with the male bashing. It’s easy to paint your opponent with a dark brush. For instance, half the extreme feminists I know appear to have borderline personality disorder. A lot of jaded men weren’t jaded long ago but they went for the prettiest and smartest woman they could find and didn’t properly weight them…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:28 PM
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I graduate HS in the mid 90s, so a bit of a different era than you experienced. I’m sure you’ve seen enough movies from the 80s and 90s to get a sense of typical female attire. If actresses were wearing big sweaters and jeans with some room in them, then you can guess that typical women did the same. I’ve seen people online dispute this and act like things haven’t changed. We kind of have the receipts on this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:01 AM
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If you aren’t physically attractive, then nothing else will cause actual desire Other than a few outlier women When women say “I love smart men” what they mean is “I especially like hot men that are also smart”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:04 PM
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They have been told by feminists and women’s magazines that men no longer care if a woman was highly promiscuous and if they do care then they aren’t right for them anyways This sounds good and so women are more likely to use sex either to get a man, get attention, or try to fix an emotional problem They do not realize (or realize when it is too late) that outside of a subset of men, that higher value men that can do better do care but have learned to never say it without anonymity because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:58 PM
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Life is easy enough that women no longer need men and use the gov’t as a surrogate as needed for provisions It’s of course changed things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:40 PM
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Hell no The exact opposite I must have written very poorly Gen X guys remember when women usually had modesty and being overly promiscuous wasn’t supposed to be celebrated and women could go 3 months without sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:34 PM
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Huh? By definition, a Chad is not celibate because part of being Chad is banging women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:32 PM
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Women often think men are vending machines where they put sex tokens in and get relationships as a reward I’ve had women ask me to their house after a first date and then get mad when I later didn’t want to get serious and asked “well if you didn’t want to seriously date me then why did you sleep with me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:31 PM
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Which is funny because sleeping with you casually and admitting you routinely have slept with men casually is not the best path to a man wanting to commit and be exclusive This is for masculine Gen X men that aren’t part of a deviant urban subculture where people are constantly banging randos
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:58 PM
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If a woman wants kids and a family, then it’s super dumb to wait a long time until the only guys left are either unattractive or don’t want a family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:55 PM
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Do you realize you are actually selecting for intelligence and social dominance?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:20 PM
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No Men often want women to have realistic standards Then, the men she dates will be on her level, she’s happy, and she isn’t settling at all What men don’t like is a 4 thinking she’s a 7 because she once got banged by a 9 and now she feels she is better than her current boyfriend who is a 6 In other words, ladies, pull your head out of the fantasy that has been created for you in order to manipulate and placate you in various ways I know it must be comfy in there though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:12 PM
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I’m not triggered, I’m just imagining you thinking these things and it’s just annoying is all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:02 PM
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I was stating that I am voluntarily celibate and underlining the fact that it is voluntary because half of the people here don’t think it is possible for a guy that can get sex with small or reasonable effort to NOT do that…in other words they’d say I was a coping incel You’re cut from the same cloth by immediately assuming any person saying something positive about themselves on the internet must be doing it for the reason you currently hold in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:00 PM
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Sadly, it’s often the same with platonic friendships If you are usually the one to reach out to someone, then they take you for granted until you slow down and then they will pick up the slack and reach out to you more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:54 PM
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It’s also not nice to think about and so they don’t or don’t say it out loud Related, but this is why women often consider a man’s lowest point as his true self For instance, they would prefer a man that is naturally strong to one that used to be frail and then through hard work became even stronger than the first guy The reason is because the natural just has good genes that her kids will easily inherit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:51 PM
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Women want men to open up so that they can judge them for their inner self Women don’t even know this is the evolutionary reason for what they think is a good desire on their part How would it ever be to a woman’s genetic advantage for a weak man to conceal that from her? This is the same reason most people love gossip, it’s genetically advantageous to know people’s personal lives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:45 PM
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Most women want a character in a movie or book and are too self-absorbed to realize this, want to change it, and then actually change it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:41 PM
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Yep. I’m not red pulled (I’m no pilled) but I used to read red pill and mgtow stuff and I learned some things Anyways, a red pill guy was bragging that his dog was ran over and killed in front of him and he was proud he didn’t cry over it in front of his GF I remember feeling really sad for humans It’s in part because I know that deep down a lot of women would prefer their man not to cry like that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:40 PM
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Sounds like you need to be able to call yourself on your own BS
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:35 PM
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This sounds like a cope You want chasing because it validates your worth and you spin that as masculinity in order to not realize it is about something you lack within yourself I guess you can spin it as “masculine men have high testosterone, high testosterone men are super horny, high testosterone men go after what they want, when a high testosterone sees me then he wants me and then tries to get me” etc But I’m just calling BS on your whole comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:34 PM
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It is strangely difficult for many men to realize that just because your body physiologically makes you to think sex is a really big deal that this doesn’t actually make sex a really big deal in an objective sense If you asked many men “would you rather cure cancer or sleep with (insert woman of their dreams)?”….they’d choose the dumb answer or at least have to think about it too long. If you asked them why sex is so existentially important for them, they would resort to some sort of circularity…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:31 PM
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In what world would having plenty of women you’re not interested in want you (or you simply abstain) be a bad thing? One where my life’s goal is to get my penis wet as much as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:40 PM
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Surf instructor is the same reason why personal trainers score a lot They are also having to touch the woman to spot and guide them So the personal space barrier is erased early on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:35 PM
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That’s how mentally I’ll women tend to start and sustain relationships…..putting out early, often, and well (at first, before the trap has sprung) This and general lack of boundaries is why “crazy girl sex is hot” is a thing in culture
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:33 PM
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Not always There’s many men that are voluntarily celibate A lot of people that are a walking hardon or want to think men are can’t grasp that though I’ve probably rejected more women in the past couple years than the average man beds in a lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:23 PM
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I’m sure guys do this to women, but when I’ve rejected women romantically they typically act mad at me and I’ve been called gay twice to my face in public over it. The two women women that called me gay were legit bat shit crazy though. This coincides with them not expecting or dealing with rejection, as you noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:20 PM
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Does a bear poop in the woods? It does not shock anyone to hear a rich man falling for his beautiful secretary. In comparison, how many female lawyers would consider marrying the janitor at work? She might shag him privately if he’s super hot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:56 PM
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You’d have us not discuss the reality of female nature because it could make something bad happen (you fear, which is a fallacious argument from consequences) and it doesn’t sit well with you emotionally. You are the caricature you don’t want men to point towards. Now that’s irony. But really it is mostly a liberal traitor sticking your fingers in your ears selectively. Also, outside of here where it is a bunch of ill spirited harpies sniping at us, men are generally very open to discussion of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:50 PM
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A former supervisor is on the spectrum. Anyways, this guy needed rules to interpret social situations at all correctly and to know what to do. If you put him in a novel situation, he would flip through his mental files and execute the closest program he had. This resulted in him often making serious social errors. He is perhaps the most blue pulled person I’ve ever met. Once, a female co-worker asked to speak with me alone and he rudely inserted himself acting as if he might need to defend her f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:45 PM
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Orgasm increases the chance of female pregnancy. It makes sense then that women are more likely to orgasm and become pregnant by very attractive men that likely have good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:36 PM
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A former custodian at work is a female from Egypt originally. Anytime someone did anything that didn’t sit well with her and involved her, she would claim racism to anyone that would listen. Another janitor switched vacuums with her without asking? They are racists, etc. I heard her call people racist for no reason at least once a week. I just stayed quiet because to disagree would be racist I’m sure. Grievance has now become currency. If you claim racism then no one wants to disagree or even en…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:31 PM
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Ok Thanks I understand better now I’m in my late 40s and grew up in a less urban area It was very different
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:37 PM
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A lot of it is mental health I had social anxiety pretty bad until age 30 I was attractive to many women, but it really hurt my dating prospects If younger men could gain self confidence then a lot of this would go away
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:30 PM
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Older women lack the abundance they had in youth and also have had a lot more sex (being older) and so it has lost its “big deal” Ones that are recently single or single moms have a need and often use sex to get whatever that is They also tend to resent the men they are now settling for because they hold onto their true value being associated with the best men they landed in their youth So, of course young women with less baggage and more options have a stronger position in the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:26 PM
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What’s your general age range and what “scenes” or subcultures were you a part of?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:23 PM
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Gen X men that did not grow up in super liberal urban areas and didn’t settle down young are in a weird place We remember when normal women did not wear tights and a push bra with a tight tank top to the grocery store Back in the day, if I saw a woman dressed like that in public, I assumed she might be a sex worker I worked at a grocery store when 18, and if a woman walked in like that the male employees would take turns walking by to check her out Also, friends with benefits, sleeping with and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:17 PM
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Men are much more able to accept male nature and that some men are assholes and that we in general have our faults If you talk about female nature in the abstract, women will tend to take it as you are talking about THEM specifically and get upset and not be open to any of it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:05 PM
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Some of that might be apex fallacy Men have very slightly higher average ability in some areas and also men are more variable (bell curve is flatter with longer tails that are thicker at the extremes of idiot and genius) Now, overlay a male and female intelligence distribution Pick a threshold that is “above this the person is smart as fuck and can do almost anything they set their minds to mentally” I would say that is roughly a 140 IQ Draw a vertical line at 140 on those 2 overlaid distributio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:01 PM
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Because they know the type of sexual thoughts and actions many men have Even if not abusive, during sex even a vanilla guy will be thinking things like “I’m going to use this tight wet hole up” even if they don’t say it This sort of dominant-submissive dynamic is the norm Men don’t like thinking of this happening to their special daughter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:47 PM
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As long as you aren’t spying, I consider anything publicly available as fair game. Women now think you cyber stalk them because you look through their online posts that they freely posted for all to see. If you stop dating them because you realize they dated 20 other guys that same year just by scanning their Facebook, then you are suddenly a Soviet spy. However, if you looked and only found wholesome things, then they wouldn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:40 PM
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None of your friends went on real dates until 25? They all just hung out and banged? That’s weird to me. I grew up in a town of 25,000 though. I think that’s a little spoken thing. Urban folks behave very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:37 PM
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Most women don’t cheat is like saying most parachutes open One thing just becoming more aware has done is made me sense the signs of infidelity around me, and I’m often correct (like the married woman in my office that would sometimes take long lunches and I’d notice at the exact same time the building superintendent would leave and drive in the direction he lived nearby…I just saw it randomly when taking breaks…,yeah they were banging…I knew it months before it came out) If you count all infide…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:28 PM
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There is no reason to assume people will be good You should start in an agnostic state where you expect people you hardly know to be roughly average in all ways Then, as you learn more about them, you update your beliefs about them Assuming people will be good when you meet them is naive It might be a nicer way to live, but it is not rational
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:18 PM
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I m not into hookers But I think men are better able to love (as men define love) other humans that we are not genetically related to The majority of men will risk their life to save their woman from a burning house, the majority of women will run for help
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:16 PM
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I’d say the lack of evidence to not trust is not evidence to trust People that are dating exclusively should be acting in ways to actively build trust I went into a relationship having never had trust issues because I always dated stereotypically “good girls” that only dated one guy at a time and might not even kiss on a first date Then I met a woman that was kind of wild and exciting We dated exclusively for almost a year She never acted in a way to build trust (which is just acting like a norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:11 PM
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Given how our brain is structured, this is actually somewhat accurate We do have specialized areas and then the ability to synthesize Split brain cases are interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:59 PM
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Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you. I screwed up in that I was in school for a long time moving around, and thought I wanted an academic type (or professional, like vet etc) woman that didn’t have a strong desire for kids. Well, it so happens that low empathy and nurturing is correlated with alack of maternal instinct in women. So, I ended up dating a bunch of bitches that didn’t really care about me. If you have a tendency for overthinking, then don’t make the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:57 PM
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And also Decision theory Most arguments can be simplified by separating out How does the system work without your values involved? As in, if we do X then what are all the outcomes and the probability of each (and also what are the working parts…this can b social systems etc) How do different people value the possible outcomes from step 1? That’s just the basics of it Now, I see how people dip between the 2 areas…often to score cheap debate points Such as “I can’t believe that is how it works bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:13 PM
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A lot of super woke folks disagree with the face tat thing too Here’s their reasoning “You don’t know 100% that a face tat guy will be a bad worker compared to a guy that looks highly professional” Their whole argument is based upon a lack of 100% certainty in life They are selectively against making probabilistic judgments (when it wouldn’t help them or their cause) They don’t get that the rest of us don’t have endless time to waste trying everyone out and learning all about everyone It’s becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:18 PM
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It’s partly what your appearance says about your decision making. Let’s say I have a business and I want to hire someone to work behind the scenes in a position of trust. I’m NOT hiring the person with YOLO tattoo’d on their forehead. It has nothing to do with ink causing behaviors. It’s that they knew society would judge them for that and they did it anyway. So, they either make bad decisions or they don’t care what people think. Everyone talks a good game about not caring what anyone thinks at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:09 PM
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Men absolutely weed out women they think are more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:07 PM
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Genuine and specific compliments regarding my intelligence or my penis. Was helping an ex move large furniture in her dad’s truck. He had rope but I didn’t want to cut it if I didn’t need to. I laced the rope around making a self-cinching net of sorts, uses his maglite as tourniquet to tighten it all super tight, then duct taped the maglite to the rope to keep it in place. I did all this like it was second nature. She turned to me with love in her eyes and simply said “you’re amazing”. I’ll alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:48 PM
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Just look at how female teachers that sleep with students are treated in comparison to males It’s gross Women and others that don’t openly admit there are huge double standards can’t be taken seriously by a thinking person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:05 PM
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My former supervisor is on the autism spectrum He married a church girl that believed in traditional values and tolerance That’s the only way it worked for him because he, like most autistic people, eventually becomes annoying as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:03 PM
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This is interesting There’s probably more men isolated in an objective sense (like tracking number of positive interactions per day) However, I bet more women feel lonely Men are more built for it Look at whitetail bucks versus does Maybe I’m getting old and cranky….but most people get on my nerves and I usually prefer dogs or my own company
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:53 PM
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No He says muscle is more important than height That can’t really be quantified But what you wrote certainly doesn’t support his point I agree though a jacked dude of at least average height is better off than a gross guy slightly taller But this does not indicate that muscle is more important than height but rather there is some compensation between the 2 things You’d need to do very subtle stats to tease this apart along with a research study
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:40 PM
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To answer your question better It is obviously several things But one thing is that women can smell little man syndrome a mile away and they hate it Short guys don’t know this but when they get done acting like Napoleon and leave the room….women are the first ones to roll their eyes and smirk Tall men (that aren’t small in the pants or have some other issue) are naturally more confident and this is also catnip to females
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:25 PM
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Women love tall men Sorry It’s a fact of life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:21 PM
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This is pure cope-ium Many many many women will take a somewhat fit guy that is 6’2” over a jacked guy that is 5’8” Anyone that thinks otherwise is a short jacked guy trying to cope with the cards he was dealt I’m only 6 foot and at the gym I get twice as much female attention as short super jacked guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:07 PM
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Thanks Stay more aware in public though :) I never wear headphones or such 100% watching for crazy people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:42 PM
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Decisions are made at the individual level You would ask a single smart person to give up their personal advantage so that dummies as a collective don’t revolt against smarts as collective? Not realizing this is why our politics are a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:00 PM
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Good point Men are at least told to care I’m larger than most women I know they are afraid I don’t walk closely behind them at night because of this sensitivity That’s one of many ways I specifically kind to women Are women told to be kind towards men or sensitive in anyway? Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:32 PM
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Pick a trait you hav me that helps you Let’s say you’re very smart This gives you an advantage of dummies Do you care enough to give up part of that advantage. because you feel bad for the less fortunate? Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:31 PM
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A little bit of anger at the messiness of life is expected unless someone is a religious figure or LARPs at one I’m 47 Do random things PO me sometime and I call a friend and rant for 5 minutes? Yes It’s called being human A supposed unicorn or being of light is more likely a liar than a unicorn or being of light Why? There’s way more liars that would pretend to be a unicorn than there are unicorns That’s the irony..:most people’s green lights are red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:24 PM
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I’ll add in here that our culture has over corrected We used to shame sexual things that were okay and innate (like homosexuality) Now, if you say it turns you on then we are to celebrate it Let’s say I like to eat feces just because it’s Wednesday My family should be concerned But if I say “this is a sexual kink” then many will call me stunning and brave It’s like claiming something is sexual is supposed to make it immune from concern or judgement and also assumed innate and immutable But why s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:31 PM
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Agreed, but it’s kinda tone deaf to present them in certain contexts I don’t have this fetish….but imagine if I was super into Asian women but married to a Latina etc And had her doing all this stuff that made her feel like second fiddle
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:26 PM
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Wow A reasonable person Good to meet you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:25 PM
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Every woman I’ve been with long enough to know has gangbang and/or grape fantasies Even my first serious GF in college We were each other’s second partner (I had a fling before and she dated another guy for 6 months) She was 19 when we met and seemed very innocent and made me wait a while I was shocked when she wanted me to tie her up and blindfold, leave her house for 30 minutes, enter making it sound like a break in, and then have my way in a way that she wouldn’t know it was me (no kissing or…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:08 PM
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It seems like drunk and/or dysfunctional people that are emotionally dysregulated with low impulse control and self awareness might be a case study, since they are closer to the bone regarding running on instincts I’m thinking about women that tend to put men or their man in situations where there might be violence because of her (two male gorillas fighting for breeding access) I had a bat shit crazy ex like that (likely borderline), several times she seemed to enjoy getting me into confrontatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:57 PM
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It also used to be very common to meet someone at work to date. Now that is discouraged or forbidden at most career type jobs. Heck, marrying your secretary used to be common. Now that’s consider some sort of intersectional patriarchical hate crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:00 PM
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Men tend to have smaller social circles. So, if society overall becomes less social, then those that fall below a healthy threshold towards unhealthy will be mostly men. It’s like inflation hurting the already poor more so because they fall below the threshold of living wage more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:55 PM
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Also, why do you think women are more likely than men to be vocal during sex, enjoy other people hearing them/knowing they are having sex, doing it in public where they might get caught, being “taken” in a consensual way? Sure, men can enjoy this, some more than others. But it seems much more common in women. It ain’t a pretty thing to ponder and even discussing it will get you attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:53 PM
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Ok, it was more a rhetorical device meaning “It will not be easy” and for the exact reason I stated Lastly, your post doesn’t fit what is obviously the spirit of my statement What would fit it would be a woman fighting a lion to save her husband Not “brainwashed women kills herself and her kids so that hubby can better do the emperor’s weird bidding”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:10 PM
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I mean swat down their feeble cope attempts They’ll eventually get mad as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:50 PM
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I read about it but don’t have the studies OP seems to have the energy to dig via google though Basically, some researchers have had people read and judge who is wrong in narratives They then only change the sex of the folks in the story and note how people flip their conclusions If I recall, women have 5x in group bias (it being a female in story makes them right) and men have like a 2x bias against themselves and towards women Both sexes tend to cut women slack, just women more so This is evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:44 PM
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The exception that proves the rule Are you familiar with that? Basically, if you have to search hard to find a counter example, then you parading that around basically proves the generalization as true It’s like “hey guys, you’re wrong that NFL players cheat on their wives. I searched for 5 years and finally found one….derp!”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:28 PM
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We hold DNA from before we were even tribal in any sense We have the DNA and some mating preference/etc from before we split from what became chimps and even from before that That’s in part why humans are so screwed up Being human and around so many dumb MFers that basically run off emotions/instincts only..freaks me out some times….just look at how animalistic and brutal we can be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:10 PM
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A big part of this is that culture and family would tell women “don’t fall for the silver tongue devil that just wants in your pants”….it was even a movie trope. Now, a young adult female probably has a single mom Ho as a parent that is going to encourage her. The daughter might be fugly and fat and the mom is like “you’re beautiful and Chad Thundercock must want to get serious otherwise why would he pick you up in a tinted van and park with you under a bridge?” So, women aren’t choosing the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:03 PM
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Also Women were stolen by raiders that just killed their male partner and relatives and then had to breed with the raiders and try adapt to their new life This goes back millions of years and before we were modern humans We hold all that DNA that was selected for and not selected against after or drifted away
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:57 PM
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Women do love some men However, women do not love men in the same way men love women So, to men this often doesn’t seem like love because it does not match our definition For instance, men reflexively risk their lives for women they love Most women do not do that Get on google and try to find a story where a wife died trying to help her husband It will be difficult The search algorithm is so flooded by millions more stories of husbands dying for their wives that it will return those almost exclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:54 PM
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Doormats without any resources or other things going for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:47 PM
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Women want good genes and resources Guys with both are rare Hence the dual mating strategy Which men also have (but ours is more investing in wife material while still being tempted by easy sex without investment…hence why men are turned on by actually beautiful women and also women that simply look easy to bang) I’d say “real men” to women fully satisfy one or both of these So a ripped and gorgeous tough guy is a real man So is some guy that has money and makes it his life goal to take care of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:45 PM
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Neither
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:11 PM
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Do you see a difference between Getting into Harvard and part of the deal is attention Versus Dressing like a prostitute ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:07 PM
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A lot of them are I’d look at probability of a male being an attention whore Rather than the probability of a particular type of attention whore being male Do you see the difference? Spoiler: this is a basic thing even lower iq scientists get wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:04 PM
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You are being very specific Like warning women of some predator I’m talking very generally as in “This person comes from 3 generations of mentally I’ll trash….best to avoid” This isn’t something people talk about of Facebook Rather it is the reason that gossip developed as a thing….it has a good use
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:22 PM
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No It could also be partly that It is hardly a direct argument for this without the hidden assumption you are smuggling in (which is no underlying difference) If you think women don’t on average seek attention more If that isn’t just obvious Then you are very special
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:14 PM
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You re making the assumption that all pod casting is driven by attention Are there any other reasons someone might want to speak to other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:12 PM
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You point out that this happens within a community Exactly People have lost that largely It actually empowers toxic people because they can just move around and stay under the radar
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:05 PM
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I was getting at women like attention more than men Just using rhetorical questions Which sex is free to openly admit they live attention? I’ve had tons of women tell me they like attention I’ve never heard a straight man say this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:59 PM
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Both sexes lie about themselves during the initial process This is why the modern thing of moving to a strange city and investing in a stranger you know nothing about but what they ve shown you for a few months….is bizarre in a historical context In the past, you’d know if a woman’s family was a mess and she reacted by becoming a promiscuous problem drinker….because people talk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:53 PM
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Yes there are male attention seekers The questions might be How common is this behavior in men vs women? How accepted is this behavior? Attention seeking is generally considered somewhat feminine I know when I see a guy trying hard to get attention that the adjective “masculine” is not the first thing to come to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:51 PM
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More women willing to be house wives No matter what they say, everyone looks down on a house husband If I was one, I’d assume my wife would eventually cheat on me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:07 PM
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You’re simple or on the spectrum or trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:26 PM
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If a guy wants sex really bad and is ugly Move to or visit places where prostitution is legal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:32 PM
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Single and divorced moms are so easy to bang if you’re half decent looking and have your shit together I don’t do it But they throw themselves at me periodically
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:29 PM
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Wanting to know about and then asking specifically for it in relation to a person is borderline cuckoldry Almost no men want to hear this crap or be like “suck it like you sucked Steve’s!” It’s weird and cringe As a guy I can see it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:27 PM
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Um Do you think the popularity and reaction to fiction doesn’t tell us something about society and people? For instance, when I joke about why didn’t the chick consider jumping off the door in Titanic to save the guy….the blank look on a female’s face is priceless. They hadn’t even considered that plot twist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:08 PM
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It sounds like this is more than you being okay with their past. You asked about and listened to sex stories about specific guys and then wanted the same thing. That’s borderline cuckold stuff. Most women are not okay with that because they know intuitively that cuckolds are usually weak and mentally ill (despite how many online say they aren’t…:sorry the act in itself is part of the definition….it’s like I don’t care why someone eats dog poop….you eat dog poop so you are insane by definition).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:38 PM
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Just ask an unattractive woman that is past menopause. They live in a world where men seem to have very little libido (towards them).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:30 PM
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Someone talks about women in general And you get offended as if she was talking about you specifically and think you not being like that disproves a generalization? Weak
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:55 PM
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They have a t shirt that says “I have the pussy so I make the rules” Women actually believe this and are surprised when a guy drops them on their ass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:47 PM
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When a man finds out his wife banged a bunch of dudes too quickly, it is similar to how a woman would feel if she found out her husband told 100 women he loved them, took 100 to special places, and proposes to them too. That natural ick is exactly what men feel imagining their special lady allowing d-bags to feel like they were using her for sex like a gutter snipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:01 PM
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This is in part because a primary draw of modern leftism is feeling like a good and smart person for no other reason than agreeing with folks that act like they are obviously the good and smart people. It’s lazy and smug.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:55 PM
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Most women do not understand men at all because they don’t care to and don’t have to. About as far as many get is thinking they can manipulate experienced middle aged men with their aging vagina like we are still in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:50 PM
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I like a lot of different women. But short, curvy women with curly brunette hair are the top for me for some reason. It helps if they are moderate on showing skin and on makeup also.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:44 PM
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There is no reason to assume that as many men as women are bisexual….but it’s just society hiding them back. It probably is partly nature and nurture, like all things human, but there’s not the data to tease it apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:40 PM
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What was the mom to do? Say out loud one of her son’s is ugly? People don’t like to think or say hurtful things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:37 PM
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And then there was the survey that showed around 70% of women and men would cheat if guaranteed they wouldn’t get caught So even if you do everything right and manage not to pick a bad person that cheats on you Your likely prize is a partner that would cheat on you if they weren’t chicken shit about getting caught John Mellencamp once wrote Sometimes life is too ridiculous to live As an atheist, I know that none of this is designed for human happiness We aren’t adapted to live in bliss happily e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:41 PM
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Grad school is weird It’s a place people often go to prevent entering adult life It was that way for me in part
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:32 PM
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It’s genetic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:06 PM
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So you don’t think people change? You don’t think people hide parts of themselves at the beginning of things? You’re acting like I meet a woman and she hands me a little book that tells me the full truth of her now and into the future. I’m sure your response will be related to proper vetting….as if everyone coolly observes a person for 1 year and learns all about them prior to decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:05 PM
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I think we’ve blown too much smoke up the female behind regarding them being these enlightened creatures regarding emotions and relationships They go into any such interaction with the belief that they must be right and the male wrong in these areas
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:03 PM
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Yep If a male colleague for no reason other than spite called our janitor that name, I would immediately ask him something like “What has she ever done to you to deserve that?“ While staring him dead in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:46 PM
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How prim and proper women talk amongst themselves often surprises me Our female janitor at work was fired She was well liked We got a new female janitor that is perfectly nice but obese I found out that several seemingly professional women in their 40s and 50s that were friends with the past janitor now call the new “that fat bitch” to the old janitor I guess as a sign of solidarity? The new lady had nothing to do with anything though and there is no reason to be like that I can tell you that in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:11 PM
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Men can lead a woman on that he wants to start a relationship He takes her out to dinner and charms her She sleeps with him on the third or fourth date and she’s all happy and then ghosts I consider that immoral because it is deceit And it is a form of using
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:51 PM
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Not like this I’m middle aged and perceptive There is sweet and then there is attention whore I just didn’t describe it vividly enough Simply sweet girls don’t shake their ass and eye fuck other men when in a relationship, especially when their SO is present This isn’t making eye contact with a smiling at someone you are interacting with That’s normal This is scanning the room and doing it and then the guy is enticed and tries to catch her alone to talk and such
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:07 PM
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I’ve been there I broke up with a gf in a bar parking lot over it once She would get this overly open persona in certain settings (overly swaying her hips while walking, making eye contact and smiling at strange men) I had one guy walk up to me once and ask if her and I wanted to leave and partner swap….just based on how she behaved (I guess like swinger couple bait gal or something) It wasn’t a good fit She thought she was just being friendly and having fun Really, her body language was that of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:26 PM
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It creates problems unless the guy or gal in the couple are assertive/alpha and are adept at identifying and avoiding/shutting down issues. If a reserved or smaller guys goes to the bar with his GF and she is dressed overly provocative, then more dominant men will hit on her right in front of her man. I’ve seen this cause issues in all sorts of social settings. It is just more forward and aggressive in crappy bars. I feel some dysfunctional women enjoy this dynamic and having men compete/fight o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:30 PM
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You aren’t smart enough to know when you are beaten and outclassed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:08 PM
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This same argument of yours can be applied to everything So it isn’t an argument Get called a gay pervert at work? And you don’t like that? Well why do you care about strangers at work and you must be a gay pervert anyway or you would not care And why do you care if people think you are gay? Are you a homophobe? See what I did there? I can LARP young dumb liberal easily because I used to be one You’re dense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:44 PM
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You’re dense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:03 PM
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You are engaging in a false dichotomy Your argument assumes that if you disprove pure selflessness and unconditionality that you then support (insert your favorite characterization like perhaps truly selfish) I can fully grant that the relationship is not perfectly selfless but you still have not support any specific statement of your own (like all relationships being equally conditional) Do I concede that there are selfish elements of parent to child care? Sure. But I still think you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:29 AM
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The form of your argument actually is (whether or not you realize it) The phenomenon has selfish aspects, therefore it is wholly selfish It’s just bad reasoning that you are wed to You’re the type that would make an equivalency between feeling good after helping someone versus feeling good after harming a person….it’s all the same and selfish since you felt good afterwards, right? I reasoned similar to you sometimes when much younger and it is now embarrassing…it’s lazy reasoning designed to app…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:33 PM
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I’d just chalk it up to you either being in an odd environment (like folks in San Fran thinking 25% of the population is LGBTQ), being willing to lie to score a point, or bad at observation and drawing appropriate conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:56 PM
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Reproduction having selfish aspects does not imply your overall conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:54 PM
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Because I’ve been alive over 40 years and have been observing reality At no point did I say or imply what you wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:38 PM
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People care about having both They usually want biological kids first But this preference does not imply the strong conclusion you are making (that all things, including kids, are viewed in the most cold utilitarian way..:.beneath it all) People often say stuff like you are to come off as “super smart edge lords” None of what you wrote is implied by evolution by natural selection (something everyone thinks they understand intuitively or based on one bad class….but most get wrong)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:37 PM
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I’ll speak for everyone and say Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:18 PM
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Well it’s true My mistake was giving you something to focus on other than what I said previous to that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:07 PM
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Maybe comedy isn’t your thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:01 PM
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This isn’t true Tons of men go for their looks match or below In fact, I would be worried to get into a serious relationship with a model-like woman She’s very likely to be entitled and self absorbed and tons of men will be hitting on her non stop
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:54 PM
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This is a version of the Pareto Principle often related to power distributions from stats If I say “80% of the work here is done by 20% of employees”, then that does not imply that some people do zero work Now, see if you can use that nugget of obvious to improve your views
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:44 PM
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I feel bad for your boyfriend You get to do what you want because it must be okay since your narcissistic butt likes it But you judge others for the interests you don’t understand You need to grow as a person You are like an ex supervisor that holds strong beliefs about things they know almost nothing about And big buck hunters are hardly slaughterers I let almost every animal I see walk right by
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:33 PM
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That’s evil as hell You are basically taking the utilitarian assumption that economists and psychologists only make to simplify things so that they can do math models and assuming it is actually true I hope you never have kids because you’re cynical in a dumb way that makes you feel smart
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:22 PM
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You should add that “healthy committed” is the minority of relationships Yeah, I agree that if you can find a decent and sane woman that they probably won’t switch like a light switch It just so happens that most modern women are bat shit crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:19 PM
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It makes total sense in light of cold hard reptilian logic If the woman is young and hot Of course she will abandon ship if she has 20 ships circling her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:13 PM
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Yep Three times I’ve had women switch off on me like a light switch over mundane shit All 3 in hindsight were crazy bitches….but that’s about half of all modern women Once it was because I was touched by something a family member did and I shed a few tears
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:11 PM
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What is it okay to be obsessed with according to your judgy ass? I love to bow hunt mature whitetail bucks, is they okay with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:08 PM
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If you are attractive to a woman and you do not put her on a pedestal so much so that you will not date her And she makes it obvious And she knows you are single She will often hate you for embarrassing and rejecting her and also cope by thinking you are gay and even telling people that They can’t wrap their heads around a middle aged man turning down sex They want to believe all men are like sex obsessed teenagers that they can manipulate with their overweight and old vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:06 PM
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And be bat shit crazy Yeah, all the women with 100 plus counts or escorts or sugar babies or in open relationships claim to be perfectly sane But that’s the thing……most people that think they are crazy really aren’t that crazy Call an actual crazy person crazy and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:21 PM
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They do but they mean It is harder for a woman to get good sex than it is a man to get average or below sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:09 AM
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Were you like born yesterday or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:27 PM
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There are no ugly studs There are countless ugly sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:12 PM
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This has been asked via a survey It was something like Would you have an affair if guaranteed not to get caught? From memory, like 68% of women said yes and like 72% of men Extremely depressing and one reason I don’t date Even if you stick together, your wife will eventually want another dude and not do it simply due to fear of getting caught
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:04 PM
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Why “more” instead of “potentially also”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:03 PM
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I’ve been mildly abused (slapped hard in the belly or pushed when mad) by 2 women Worst I’ve done is break a tray after being pushed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:49 PM
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So men initiate divorces in happy and unhappy relationships at the same rate? Sounds wrong on its face and ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:45 PM
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True They spin it as a virtue and being in touch with their feels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:43 PM
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The argument against is “Why are you a homophobe against lesbians? Maybe you should be quiet or we will try to hurt your life.” Modern butch lesbians very often have an irrational hatred towards men and it makes them look crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:41 PM
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I believe we are in an over correction regarding human sexuality In the past, all gays were shamed and even killed Women that slept with one guy were sluts etc Most people agree this was bad The overcorrection is in part that now anything that is sexual is fine Imagine I like to go to the bar and piss off large men to beat me up Everyone should be concerned But what if I pay a woman to wipe my butt just as bad in a dungeon in order to get my wiener hard….that’s now fine and a healthy expression …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:35 AM
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Agreed I’ve never dated a virgin My first serious GF had 1 BF before me I don’t judge women for being normal I do judge them for being crazy and acting like that is the new normal Crazy people hardly ever think they are crazy People with depression, anxiety, or a few issues…not crazy but worry they are But try calling a chick with borderline personality disorder crazy…she ll slash your tires and boil your pet to prove she isn’t So all these swinger gangbang queens claiming to be functional…..I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:28 AM
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It is much more acceptable for a woman to ask another woman to grab a coffee or go shopping etc Men can only easily meet other men in a couples context or over a shared hobby If I meet a new guy at work and ask if he wants to grab a beer after work, chances are very high he is going to think I am gay and hitting on him This is 10x more true if one or both of you aren’t married with kids So everyone thinking that the primary male motivation is our dongs is a big deal This is the same reason peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:41 PM
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Women are kinda weird I’ve been with 15 women (turned down many more) and I’m not huge but probably 1 inch longer than the average white dude in the USA with proportional increased girth Only 2 women have ever complimented me down there It’s like they didn’t want to give me power or something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:32 PM
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That would be awesome if it caught on and people started telling crazy bitches they have Loose pussy energy Or maybe Arbys roast beef energy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:28 PM
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I’ve never met a rad fem that wasn’t some combo of crazy or dumb, but they all they think are very evolved
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:02 PM
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I would say to treat people with decency. I’m not going around treating random people with “high regard” because most people don’t deserve that at all. I think treat someone with respect means decency to most people in this context I’d say the opposite of disrespect in this context is not respect but rather decency I’d say decency is just basic kindness and a lack of rudeness or other negative actions….but that is not high regard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:52 PM
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And this is why most neurotypical men have an innate disgust with the idea of committing to a promiscuous woman It’s because for most of human history female promiscuity was such a dumb move that only a crazy or desperate person would engage in it There were close to zero well adjusted and successful sluts around 70 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:48 PM
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If you want a relationship, then having a FWB is not going to help unless you are willing to lie. The Antifa members in skinny jeans and the women that love them (or whatever these weirdos on here are) will disagree but the vast majority of traditionally masculine men that aren’t soy boy baristas from San Fran will not get serious with a woman if they know she has a FWB when they first meet. Men have just learned not to say this out loud because a rad fem with purple hair will explain the patria…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:47 PM
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It is “dangerous knowledge” to not be spoken of…..but a lot of these relationships are mutually abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:44 PM
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How does the existence of abused women that put up with further abuse a way to discount my general advice to other men (assuming I’m not giving advice to abusers on how to find others to abuse…ya know for the sake of Christian charity)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:41 PM
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Lol You know as much about math as Dahmer does about dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:13 PM
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A lot of women considered cute have facial issues that would make them considered ugly men What I mean is you can imagine what their genetics would cause if they were XY (like a brother that seems obviously related) People act like you can’t do this or that “congrats, women make ugly men”….but they miss the point and don’t have a powerful enough thinkie meat behind their eyes Imagine a country girl with a smoking body, nice personality, and dresses sexy But she has slightly weak chin and cheekbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:09 PM
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Gay men do sometimes hook up with their female friends Gay men are often somewhat bi, are hedonistic enough to take pleasure, or are not as repulsed by women as straight men are by men Straight men very often have a physical revulsion to other men sexually, and this is not homophobia They figure that all gay men must view women the way they view men…this is largely false A lot of this confusion is caused by people making reification and map-territory mistakes and not knowing what that even is (l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:57 PM
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Yeah It cracks me up when women and other blue pillers take 2 ugly people being married as evidence that ugly women are attracted to ugly men and treat them well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:52 PM
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You need to internalize 2 things. Many people act VERY differently to different people. Men and women mostly compete in separate dominance hierarchies with their own rules and such. Ever have a woman being a bitch to other women subtly and men don’t see it? If you say no then you have no life experience. In other words, a lot of these men actually are kind of assholes to many other men or to women they aren’t attracted to. Are you struggling with the idea that men are especially nice to women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:17 PM
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No shit She was casually fucking 2 dudes….then Chad thundercock shows up….probably knows she is boning dudes causally and then waits his turn The sheer amount of hamstering to not feel used and promiscuous….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:10 PM
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This is why men should avoid women with significant childhood trauma, even if they claim to be okay now Most will hide it well for a while and love bomb Also, be cautious if a woman “out of your league” physically pursues you….crazy women know that men with options and high self respect won’t put up with them for long
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:06 PM
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Most cynics are disappointed idealists
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:23 PM
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I disagree Women have much lower testosterone and are only fertile a minority of the time They simply need a stronger stimulus at the right time…when that occurs the bs cope about social stuff goes out the window
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:22 PM
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Wow, you must have a cool life knowing all these rad super sluts getting their backs blown out by many top guys and then telling them all and locking down king Chad….who also totally doesn’t see her as a way to get into swinging Simplest explanation is that you are willing to lie or say anything to “win” here Also, you should figure out what “exception that proves the rule means” 6 foot and 6 figures by itself only means you are semi tall and are a good electrician or car salesman 6 figures in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:11 PM
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See my other comment It is obvious that the Earth being hit by an asteroid does not mean that other asteroids did not miss it Same with men A woman bangs 200 men and 1 sticks around and puts a ring on it….doesn’t mean anything about whether many men avoid that with them or not Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:09 PM
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You are purposefully obtuse and act like it is being clever Yeah they don’t avoid them when it comes to easy sex….duh Or things like work etc But when it comes to relationships, men do avoid them You’ll come back with “well a lot have boyfriends” No crap You don’t know how many men said nope until she found a low value man or someone that fetishized sluttiness etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:01 PM
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They are avoided for relationships by men with options
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:58 PM
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Borderlines are often promiscuous when single and very sexual at the beginning of relationships and females with this are basically toxic female traits turned to 11 with the knob ripped off Once they have their hooks in, they often manipulate with sex (giving and withholding)..,and if you’re dumb enough to marry one you might be stuck in a dead bedroom with the former or current town whore A fate worse than death for any man with self respect I think a lot of the stereotypes for high n count wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:52 PM
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I dated a woman that was likely mildly autistic Other than not liking to talk (which caused our breakup), she was the kindest and most understanding GF I’ve ever had and it isn’t even close
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:43 PM
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So your argument stripped to bare bones is that We cannot usefully explore whether certain facets of human thought and behavior are at least partly the product of evolution by natural selection and how they might have come about in the past and other related questions How are your beliefs substantively different than that? because what you seem to imply is dumb AF By the way, I watched when the push against evo psych happened A movement called atheism plus had these wokesters that hadn’t really …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:55 AM
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Because the modern woke somehow has to think that evolution stopped at the neck whenever it not stopping at the neck would entail something they don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:47 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:57 PM
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Have you met a range of adults? Humans are often incredibly illogical in some emotional issues This will not change due to humans improving individually It will be cultural changes that they conform to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:17 PM
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Because it blows up part of the romantic love narrative A lonely guy and girl making eye contact across a crowded room and become each other’s everything just sounds so much nicer than both people having FWBs when they meet or something
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:25 AM
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You’re wrong By your reasoning, then all of evolution by natural selection is prey to this critique You are saying we can’t make hypotheses about the past and then test then with historic or present day data and that is false The reason you are saying this is because evo psych says some ouchie things about men and women Feminists didn’t like this and they could not control it so they decided to come up with a BS reason to dismiss all of it Please explain why this is uniquely true for evo psych b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:17 AM
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Well let’s say you are the hottest guy in a 100 mile radius You have to work, eat, sleep, and workout to maintain your hotness That entails that you probably don’t have more than 5 or 10 FWBs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:47 AM
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I’m ashamed that I was once like you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:36 AM
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Nope You don’t understand decision theory and should If you think there are only 2 sides and only one has any points at all I’m going to leave this subreddit because people here just aren’t interesting or nice to talk to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:11 PM
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You are now the equivalent of the black knight from monty python I suggest you delete these comments and look into nootropics as they are your only hope
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:53 PM
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Huh? Where did I mention forming groups and putting women in them for shame purposes or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:44 PM
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I don’t like Sam Harris as much anymore but he has a point there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:43 PM
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You’ve just set yourself up perfectly The right does not have to be correct if the left is wrong, this is not the only 2 choices…both can be wrong and to disagree with you doesn’t require me to defend your adversaries….I mean that I saw that and you didn’t should tell you something Human climate change can be real but the projections wrong and second and higher order effects wrong OR the proposed way of handling it wrong…again, you set yourself up…you think anyone that disagrees with you must de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:38 PM
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Oh okay From your previous comment then, your philosophical divide must be dumb fucks and non dumb fucks Let’s take one thing that tends to divide folks which might be the individual vs the collective good There are trade offs to either view and most interesting people can discuss that gray area even within a single issue Reality is hardly crisp in these cases You have no idea who I am and are just caricaturing me as another dummy on the internet you got the better of, so you think And if you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:24 PM
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Also, your little caricature list is nothing to be proud of I can have respectful conversations with conservatives and independents that I disagree with, but not with modern liberals like you You’re just horrible to be around unless someone fully agrees with you So smug while having such a shallow understanding of the systems you hold deep beliefs about For instance, the knowledge most liberals have about energy and climate could fit in a brochure and was procured from watching a few TED talks…d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:12 PM
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How else will they groom them if they don’t find kids outside without parents around? I kid I kid…sort of
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:06 PM
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Well, I hold beliefs that neither “side” tends to have And I look at each issue separately The reason people cluster in two camps and we draw a line between them is because humans are deeply tribal and most people are dumb and want a leader and packaged set of beliefs You see tribalism even with people’s smart phone choice and the type of truck they drive So that’s why you see a clustering is because people are sheep and any organization that gains power and will survive tends to do this (create…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:05 PM
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Well, I certainly feel smarter than you based upon your comment Also, both sides do not have to be equally bad for someone to determine that neither are worthy of their respect or allegiance You do realize that the very idea of 2 sides (a one dimensional political line you place yourself along) is pretty dumb, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:51 PM
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Is this some meme thing for when moderates/independents state the obvious? The bar is pretty low when people are amused by typing with a mix of upper and lower case
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:40 PM
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I hear in Canada that third date is known as the “salad tossing date” since analingus is almost expected
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:26 PM
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Or flirts too much with other people/too much of an attention seeker
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:24 PM
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Some sort of activity is best where you have a mix of talking and also doing stuff Movies are bad because you just sit next to each other in silence Dinner is bad unless you both are conversationalists….otherwise any awkward silence will make one or both people feel like the other person isn’t into them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:23 PM
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That’s good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:16 PM
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I had a secure attachment style until I interacted with modern women post smart phone Now my attachment style is “stay the hell away from me because I value my peace of mind”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:08 PM
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I agree that several things have worked to over inflate the egos of many women….which hurts their awareness and empathy as well I’ve left several after they behaved horribly and they were shocked and mad If I’d acted like they had, I would expect the person to live and also be ashamed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:05 PM
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I figured by good liberals you meant Sam Seder and The young Turks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:59 PM
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Just don’t let them do that and try to include them in your activities and be honest about it all If they are that into you, then it will be okay Also, if your schedule allows it, working out right before or after work is easier to maintain If there is a gap in time then it feels more optional
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:25 PM
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Oh, I see, you listen to the good liberal sources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:18 PM
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You think it’s only right wing media that makes money and influences others via fear? Where did you hear that, MSNBC? The truth is that the media on both sides are equally propaganda machines Best thing I did during Covid was watch both sides and more independent journalists and then try my own fact checking It disgusted me and made me leave the Democratic Party and register as an independent (I was never a big joiner and now I want nothing to do with organized politics) Most people would rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:13 PM
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Lol I walked out of catholic confirmation and quit the church at age 12 or 13…well walked out after the end of the first class when they said we were there to make our adult decision and never went back Pissed everyone off in my family
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:35 PM
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No these top guys aren’t banging every single woman The exact numbers don’t matter It illustrates a point that is somewhat credible though I’d say the top slice is getting most of the online attention, however a lot of women might be waiting on their Chad that matched with them but he is never going to materialize Perhaps this helps explain the sexlessness common for both sexes now Average dudes getting passed up, average women swiping on men that don’t have time for them All I know is that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:33 PM
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The saddest thing is a lot of rural parents are becoming helicopter parents There’s nothing to do in the country but be outside and if you take that away from those kids then you are going to mess them up bad I grew up in a town of 25,000 people in a rural state I was outside by myself constantly from age 6 onward
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:28 PM
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You mean people that don’t like woke or people that are woke and freak out over dumb stuff (like a man was stronger than a woman in a show therefore patriarchy) and want all white people to feel guilty all the time? I think it is highly dependent upon where you live, your job, and social circle I work a STEM job in a town of 25,000 in the mid Atlantic area This is where I was born but I lived other places including a large city in NYS but not NYC for school etc There are woke people here but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:18 PM
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You are talking about a small slice of people that were mostly fundamentalist Christians Those people still think those things, but they are not allowed much access in the modern “public square” of social media, big tech, and all major media being blatantly liberal I’m an atheist and not pilled and a registered independent So what happened is those folks became marginalized a lot more over time and people are increasingly less religious Also, back then, liberals were actually closer to classic l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:06 PM
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Yep, I was alive for it The media causing a small panic is a point how?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:45 PM
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Go read another article written by one ideologue designed to affirm the beliefs of other ideologues on the same “team” It wasn’t a discussion, it was as you asserting that you’re right several different ways
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:40 PM
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Hopefully one day you’ll learn to call yourself on your own BS
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:29 PM
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Why are you replying with this tone while simultaneously agreeing with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:13 PM
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Yeah It was just a record skip moment because no one was suggesting anything remotely non consensual Are you like some weird character on a show that randomly reminds people (in an offensive way….they seemingly aren’t aware of) things like “don’t rape anyone on the way to the store” or “don’t set any houses on fire”? Seems like a big virtue signal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:10 PM
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Ok You can cherry pick me all you want You’re still wrong From the 80s until now, people have slowly become more sexual in dress and behavior Believe your mom and a few anecdotes so you can continue feeling right, or try to research it yourself with an open mind
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:07 PM
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This makes no sense in the context of this comment thread
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:39 PM
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Ok You keep going back to one example of the game show It wasn’t a big show, I’ve never heard of it I don’t want to google and watch now either Anyways, grunge girls still wore a lot of comfy jeans, t shirts, and flannels Maybe your mom is selectively remembering or sensed hearing this would make you happy I’d do a neutral image search of Grunge 90s And don’t add sexy or women in there Then just look and know that if a picture is popular and at the top of the search algorithm then it is likely a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:32 PM
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Except a lot of women think it is hot to feel like the guy is “using” them during sex It’s part of the dominant-submissive dynamic and dirty talk Tell a woman that is into you to “use your pussy to jerk my cock off” and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:17 PM
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Humans are extremely packed with animalistic instinct That is a main function of our emotions and urges (to get us to do the instinctual thing) However, modern youth either don’t know this or it is actively scrubbed but to be fair humans have always been uncomfortable with this truth and do things like shave and such to hide who we are (ultra smart ape) Humans are deeply ingrained regarding sexual selection and mating strategy…going back to where some of these strategies pre-date us being human …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:55 PM
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Yeah, no I’m just showing why you are wrong I’m not making my own hypothesis because it is not necessary in order to point these things out I’m probably twice your age have probably studied science and logic for longer than you’ve been alive You’re just wrong in how you are thinking Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:48 PM
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Here’s your answer: This was fiction and a plot device for the writer People actually enjoyed entertainment back then and weren’t looking for how everything is problematic Literally, google any popular show (breaking bad, walking dead, etc) and put “is sexist” or “is racist” after it and you’ll get 100s of articles that are like “you know that one time Michone couldn’t beat a white man? Yeah we need to talk about that” As far as sex being everywhere and kids being exposed to these idea too early…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:39 PM
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This might have been true in large cities or in certain scenes….but in the rest of the USA this was not common I graduated high school in 1994 Also, women on average dressed much more conservatively than today Although it was edgy compared to the 80s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:35 PM
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Watch TV shows from the 80s and 90s and notice that the adult females usually dressed in a way considered conservative now and of course this was doubly true of minors If a woman wearing yoga pants and a tight, low cut top was teleported back to a medium sized town in 1990….people would legit think she might be a prostitute This is in part why many middle aged guys don’t like our sig others following these trends and walking around in a way where everyone basically knows what they look like nake…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:24 PM
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Also I think you are going to extremes here Women don’t have a binary between Mr Smooth and Mr Creep….a socially awkward guy might want to believe this though He legit might be atrocious at this and copes by saying “well I guess I have to be perfect then!”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:20 PM
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Women hate awkwardness more than men So much so that it is primarily women and soy boys that have as part of their personality thinking it is interesting or funny to point it out as in “AaaaaaKkkkkkworddddd” like a valley girl PS all of society would be better off if unfunny people stopped trying so hard to be funny My thinking is that women highly value knowing what to do in social situations, and so they hate social awkwardness because, almost by definition, it is a situation where folks don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:13 PM
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An instinct such as hypergamy can exist alongside the effects of nurture/environment The 2 are not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:06 PM
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These are not exact numbers But this is just the Pareto principle based on power law distributions In teaching, for instance, it is said 20% of your students create 80% of the work or trouble In business, 20% are said to do 80% of work This is just stating that the top men are with a lot of women or could be if they wanted Those guys have to want that though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:17 AM
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And it’s usually nature and nurture as you said
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:13 AM
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Sexual selection is well established Women and men both select sexual partners Do you think women try to select the best male they can just like any other animal seeking a mate? How much more evidence do you need to simply believe your eyes and common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:47 AM
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Also the vaginas of virgins and 60 year old escorts are the same because “that’s not how vaginas work……reeeeee reeeee”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:07 PM
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This is pretty good but you are missing something about evolution, which is ironic sense you kind of talked down to others We still carry a lot of genes from before we were human These traits are not removed unless a mutation arises to cause its removal And the trait sufficiently harms reproduction/survival that it’s removal will be selected for whenever that DNA mutation to do so arises Lastly, it takes a long time for all this to happen Women are usually hypergamous (I’m not saying nurture doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:01 PM
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One reason for such strong selection for intelligent is it is its own niche in sense And the increase in intelligence opens and expands this niche…..sorta like the smarter you are the more advanced civilization there is which increases the benefit of more smarts….rinse and repeat….it’s influencing the selecting environment, in part, similar to a termite have DNA to make mounds which changes the selecting environment Once you have a pretty large brain, you can keep getting smart without further h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:39 PM
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Because for many women that do not have a man when they have a kid, it seems to trigger “have to find man to help kid and I survive mode” A lot of single moms come off as viscerally desperate It’s similar to the baby rabies that childless women at a certain age develop Of course nothing said about women prior to woke Ism was correct (unless a compliment) according to corny leftists….so yeah single moms totally don’t put out easier on average, etc….yep it’s all a fantasy misogynists cooked up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:27 PM
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So, are you saying the liver-shop vac thing is dangerous or just that another meat might work better?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:31 AM
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I m not taking credit for anything personally I’m simply stating a fact Let’s say cloning becomes a thing and so only one sex is needed to have babies If men disappeared, humanity would collapse….all women on Earth combined simply don’t have the combined knowledge to actually run the systems that make modern life possible If women disappeared, material standard of living would go up (since in the aggregate women take more than they produce) but the hard part would be straight guys having to be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:15 AM
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It depends upon how it is said I was using ironically Which doesn’t translate It means that you actually don’t sound like fun Of course in real life around like minded people they are probably ok fun at parties If it is said plainly or with a devilish grin then it is either a dry statement of fact or the person might be flirting or actually being witty in a nice way, respectively
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:26 AM
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I see the issue here now I asked for a list out of curiosity, given the discussion People thought I was asking out of a need or want Nah, I’m good but thanks No way I’m doing anything i don’t want in order to meet more women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:26 AM
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Um….it’s an expression people use Here I use it because the person shuts down discussion related to why this subreddit exists As such it is not pro social Hence the comment It would be like going to a party and being anti why people go to them But leftists don’t like discussion when it is with someone with which they disagree, hence why they come here just to disagree and never learn anything from talking with someone they disagree with I bet most would have to google and disagree with what is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:52 AM
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Do you realize that if men had that attitude towards women what would happen? Long term of course men need women for population increase, but short term women would die or have horrible lives without men. Men do everything that women can’t. Hell, a guy named Earl even invented and patented the tampon for women. You’re probably a rad fem that thinks men and women are the same or that women would figure it out. Nope, it would be horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:16 AM
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I never said I was struggling I was just asking about hobbies because none of mine include women I did make pottery on a wheel for years, but I have a mild back injury now and pottery posture aggravates it (too much leaning forward while sitting) Also, if there wasn’t sex and offspring, then men and women would be around each other less…I don’t think that’s toxic if it’s true….but I would see the same women I do now because I’m not sleeping with any of them I guess anyone that asks a dating rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:37 AM
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Sure that works and how many people form social networks, but it is rather indirect and has nothing to do with a hobby in a sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:31 AM
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One issue is that a lot of hobbies have almost no women so any woman is surrounded or it is something women do with their man Competitive archery is one example, most women into it were introduced to it by husband etc The hobbies with an equal sex ratio are usually not as interesting to men Someone please list some hobbies both sexes like equally, I’m drawing a blank I mean we tend to not even like the same movies and music If it wasn’t for sex and reproduction, how much time would we actually s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:42 PM
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Actually, we could easily solve world hunger if we all wanted to and everyone pitched in It’s a people and political problem at this point Science has given us the ability to produce that much food Same with extinction…we know why animals are dying but humans just can’t get their shit straight and half the time to solve huge problems it takes authoritarian control that is abused and then causes other problems
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:23 PM
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I think you are putting the cart before the horse somewhat A big reason these guys do okay is because they belong to a social circle related to the hobby Surfers do well with surfer chicks because they hang out where surfer chicks are at, it is less so because they look and dress like a surfer Tailoring your whole persona to one thing and in order to get chicks…is what is weird to me…maybe it’s because I’m older and an individualist I could never respect myself if I did as you say Also, once you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:20 PM
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A trend among women is to be “sassy” as a personality First, this is not a personality Second, you’re probably just a bitch Third, it is common for them to see celebrities that have entitled attitudes due to being famous and the women think if they act like that then it will be good No, you’re just working a menial job and acting like biotch…which makes you less desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:40 PM
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I feel bad if you think that is an appropriate comment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:34 PM
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I have 2 ride or die buddies I’ve known for over 30 years, they are also best friend with each other…so 3 of us Both of their wives are friendless and felt threatened by our bond and have both tried to disrupt it That is an abuse technique common to cults, isolation from outside support so that the cult (or in this case wife) becomes the only support and thus gains power I’d suggest no one here do that to anyone else It’s evil
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:54 PM
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Omg I bet you’re fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:39 PM
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You and I do not define words the same I take “care” and “matter” and other words to mean in this context “is an input to selection” which is the sensical definition here (unless you can come up with another clear definition for evaluation) You are defining them in a wrong way that is convenient to your argument An average woman probably won’t want a hot guy with mental retardation or a brain injury either…so how do you square that? I am acquainted with a guy that looks like a model and works ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:36 PM
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Ok, once again Many, many women are more attracted to a smart hot guy more than a dumb or average hot guy This is in fact being attracted to intelligence You are of course right that if a guy is deformed and stinky, then most women will pass him by even if he is the smartest guy on Earth So, you are looking at this in a very narrow way and just have to be right, when you aren’t It’s like saying “only tires matter for a car because you have to have tires to drive”…this is false
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:18 PM
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Because it causes issues And people should know how they and the world works and it has been somewhat quantified I’m sure you and others think about and worry about less important matters all the time So this seems like an odd place to “take a stand” for what does and doesn’t qualify as useful info
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:14 PM
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You’re wrong Many women care about it once you’ve met their looks threshold This is often posited as why women like witty men…because witty men are almost always smart You’re right that looks open the door though And it isn’t every woman, and a dumb one isn’t even smart enough to correctly identify intelligence Take it from someone that pretty regularly turns down women and can date at will….and also has an IQ that I won’t post here because people will think I’m lying or bragging….you’re viewing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:07 PM
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Women trivialize it just as much if not more At least some men point this out, so I’d say men are winning on that I’ve never seen a woman discuss to seriously at all, unless it happens to their son or something
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:34 PM
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Female teachers assault underage males and everyone laughs Skinny guy on a pot charge gets raped in prison and everyone says “he deserves it” As many men get prostate cancer as women get breast cancer and no one cares….there’s no campaign to end it Men are disposable utilities Most women only care about men they are genetically related to because of evolution via kin selection Reality is ugly at times
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:28 PM
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No You made the assumption Someone would likely assume it was a bad thing, so I was saying I’m not saying it was…I also was not saying it is good I was not doing a smarmy water cooler thing of “Well is that a baaaaaaddddd thing?” With a derpy grin
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:00 PM
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Shallow take Attractive people’s actions are interpreted differently If you think “that’s just inevitable because that’s what attraction means” then you are basically saying illogic shouldn’t be confronted with reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:23 PM
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It’s called the halo effect and cuts both ways They have presented scenarios of a crime to subjects and changed the picture Predictably, people are more likely to find conventionally attractive folks as not guilty The worst is flirting An ugly guy hitting on a woman is often considered sexual harassment whereas it isn’t for hot guys People in general often mistake their feelings for external reality and blame others for their feelings inappropriately But women are way worse at this on average an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:19 PM
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Yep I told a girl once “Let’s bump uglies” She thought I was asking for oral
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:00 PM
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Simply stating a fact doesn’t imply and opinion I wish more young folks and people here got that They often won’t accept an explanation that doesn’t make them feel good and assume the person giving it is endorsing it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:59 PM
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Yeah that’s more redneck-ish I’m taking showing up in shape, well groomed, but you are wearing jeans, decent shirt (name brand even), and then something like a Carhart barn jacket or a nice hiking jacket I’d never post dead animals somewhere to impress women Basically, don’t be metro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:34 PM
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This is false If you are physically attractive and smart, then many women will like you even more I’m middle aged and have dated a good bit, had many female friends, and seen a lot The current trope for “smart guy” is a super nerd that is on the spectrum There’s a lot of ultra intelligent people that are also socially adept and even hide it, learning how to deal with people well is just another problem they easily solve
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:31 PM
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I hunt and hike a lot and buy what I want for these hobbies If you dress casually but have on a pair of boots that an outdoorsy chick knows are $$$ and look nice, something like that is catnip….extra points if it isn’t a boot or brand that random people know exist (like Asolo boots) It’s masculine but draws attention to a shared interest and shows you probably aren’t poor
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:40 AM
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The dress thing is dependent upon the guy, the girl, and the area (it might not fit the guy’s vibe or make him self-conscious or look cringe like when a PUA has an autistic guy put a green stripe in his hair) Traditionally masculine men don’t tend to dress for attention and women that like those types of men seem to prefer their guy to be clean and groomed but not thinking about clothes very much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:02 AM
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Well yeah That’s why I picked the thing I thought was most interesting and didn’t mention anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:43 AM
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I mean a woman that is making eye contact with you from across a room or when not otherwise expected I don’t mean that a cashier looked me in the eyes while asking me paper or plastic bags Also, it is the timing and type of smile We can ask women here: If you are the type to indicate to a man that you’d be interested in talking with him, what do you do and how do you use your eyes? How about your smile?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:18 AM
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You could spin the robot thing into being cool and interesting and a sign of intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:55 PM
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It’s both The 2 are not mutually exclusive and feedback to each other People argue only side of a vicious cycle all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:53 PM
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There’s many ways to skin a cat And age and genetics changes your durability The main thing is to be consistent and stay in the gym and so you have to avoid injuries Plus a lot of gym guys are just cocky and dumb as hell You tell them you can’t do overhead presses because they hurt your shoulders, so you do various raises and other exercises instead They insist you must be doing it wrong because it doesn’t hurt their shoulders (they don’t know that certain shoulder geometries can cause this) Hal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:44 PM
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We are more used to harsh treatment all the way back to childhood The female brain has way more connections between the brain hemisphere and this is a double edged sword For these and other reasons, people are expected to be nicer to women, especially a hot woman has no idea what life is like for most men (and don’t care)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:27 PM
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Women do this in their own subtle way. If you find that a woman makes excuses to be near you or you see her where you are by coincidence, then that’s a sign they are giving you opportunities. Also, eye contact and smiles are approach signals. They just don’t wanna be the ones to walk over and start the actual convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:45 PM
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Stick a well lubed finger in their next time you flick the bean…only way to know is to try it out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:48 PM
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Like i said Fuck motivation Rely upon discipline if you want something
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:30 PM
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If you and your GF are both into, it’s the hottest thing in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:30 PM
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Truth be told, if he really likes it and doesn’t think you mind it or even like it, then he’s gonna ask about it a few times a month minimum (if he’s like every guy I’ve ever known…..yeah young guys talk about this stuff sometimes)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:14 PM
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Motivation ain’t shit Discipline is the ticket Motivation is making yourself want to do the right thing Discipline is fuck my feelings I’m doing the right thing But the tricky thing that is great is that discipline turns into motivation For instance, make yourself work out 4 times a week and after 3 months you’ll want to do that and it’s easy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:07 PM
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Yep A lot of what we see is influenced by big tech etc It’s a feedback loop too The algorithms and people controlling them view the world, mess with people, this changes the world and then the AI/techies see this and react and adjust It’s sinister and weird and young people raised with a smart phone don’t care that much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:49 PM
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What if a guy legit has a very high iq (tested by psychologist etc) and doesn’t find talking with an average woman very interesting? Like he isn’t making it up and everything about his life screams it. Is he being arrogant according to you? You kinda act like exceptional people don’t exist, which is of course false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:46 PM
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A past coworker had little man syndrome so bad it basically drove him insane He was in his 60s and would turn red and lash out if anyone even mentioned something innocently related to height in general, not even referencing him (like commenting that a certain NBA player is 7 foot or something) He got a mail order bride from Ukraine like 25 years ago and most people think he’s a tool bag
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:39 PM
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It’s a deflection so that you can be into appearance without being called vain or shallow No, all this hair and makeup and clothing is an artistic expression Which might be true sometimes but also sometimes isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:05 PM
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Yeah You’ve really made me want to answer I’m saying what seems to work I’m not commenting about morals But I’m a guy that you sense isn’t on your team, so whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:44 PM
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Fingers, small toys, and your BF’s mouth and tongue Plenty of lube You have to start considering your ass a sexual organ and errogenous zone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:42 PM
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It only is if you enjoy it or at least it isn’t painful (and not in a hurts so good way) I wouldn’t want a woman doing it just for and in pain A lot of women try it when younger and nobody knows what they are doing and it hurts and they decide to never try again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:57 PM
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Sure that’s an indicator with a low false positive rate for her being into you I’d think in terms of false positive and false negative rates here and how you view risk and wasting time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:52 PM
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Yep High n count men or some men even fetishize it Be careful though because half those guys that get turned on by it might end up trying to swing or use you as a hotwife/cuck thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:22 PM
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The tried in true method that women use is Scrub your past of as much evidence as possible and then refuse to condescend to such a discussion, be vague, or lie This works unless the guy finds out, doesn’t like it, and is mad enough to leave There’s a reason this is so common It isn’t good for the guy though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:20 PM
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Here’s the elephant in the room If a woman enthusiastically deep throats, swallows, and takes it in the back door At least 25% of all men will become infatuated and fall in love It unlocks something primal in many guys When men say “crazy chicks are the best in bed” They don’t mean “they make the coolest faces and moans” They usually include at least one of the 3 acts i listed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:17 PM
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Again, you’re kind of circular You are defining wildly attractive based upon them sleeping with you quickly, as is OP What I think you are doing is called “affirming the consequent”. Basically, If the lamp is broken, the room is dark Does not necessarily always imply that The room is dark, therefore the lamp is broken Since there are other explanations for a dark room
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:12 PM
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Might as well put the odds in your favor I’m not saying anything is right or wrong…just outlining how others can affect you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:55 PM
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Nah, I’ve had women wildly attracted to me that waited until like the 3rd date for anything more than a kiss. It is totally possible that you were sometimes with a more reserved/lower notch count girl who was just more slowly getting her engine revved up for you. The women I’ve dated like this were usually better GFs too. Just keep in mind that you might be this mixed up some times. I can tell you from experience that I would have been wrong several times if I’d taken your approach. Lastly, skin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:19 PM
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The algorithms online have been shown to try to radicalize people because radicals spend more time online
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:09 PM
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And she sounds like a catty bitch too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:07 PM
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From a legal (and perhaps ethical) perspective, you should not in some situations. In most states, you can use justified force to end a threat. That’s why lawyers will counsel people on even what words to use on a 911 call. For instance, some breaks into your house. You can probably shoot them legally in your state, but most likely it would be deemed excessive to then walk up to someone incapacitated and give them a follow up “just to make sure they never do this to anyone else”..,.said with a C…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:01 PM
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Maybe because deeply (actually believe it) religious people are against cohabitation and divorce so they throw off the numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:41 PM
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I don’t know If it’s like 500 an hour, a long haul trucker in the area can swing that Truckers often make 6 figures
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:56 PM
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I know, but that’s still highly restricted compared to all of Europe etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:15 PM
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Did you mean this Instead of this < ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:40 PM
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Back in the day “corn” was shameful and harder to get and expensive Like guys would drive away from home and go buy a magazine at night while not making eye contact with the store clerk Today is totally different and I can see men using it once a day and getting that physical need met enough to not care…like taking methadone or something to stave off cravings for the “good stuff” If prostitution was legal in the US, then this effect would be magnified I’ve had folks tell me it practically is leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:38 PM
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No I’ve observed and then made an assertion based upon observation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:33 PM
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“ had a sexual history”….this is too vague What do you mean? Had sex before me vs a former escort is a big gradient Would I change my view of someone based up having what I consider an unreasonably high body count? Absolutely. Does this mean I’d leave, not sure I’d have to be there…..if I left based partly on that I might not disclose it because it might be unnecessarily hurtful If a woman was 40 and told me 100 or more men, then it would be viscerally gross…women don’t get that men can have ick…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:39 AM
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It’s a simple observation Your idea that someone needs to follow a complicated procedure to be allowed to express a reasonable observation online is kinda bananas Your bar for stating an opinion is unreasonably high for this because you disagree I only skimmed your screed enough to post that because that was painful to look at with it’s ton, many directions, and wall of text
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:32 AM
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Marriage rate is also dropping Which could mean that the more marginal marriages aren’t happening as often and so divorces also decrease So some folks waiting just keep on waiting Not that that’s bad but probably something to consider
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:47 AM
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Part of the point is that what women tend to call average is actually above average
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:45 AM
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Would people push for legal action? I’m guessing at some point there would be a woman’s march complete with pink hats and shirts that read “pound us out!”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:18 AM
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Throw me another softball and I’ll see what I can do for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:16 AM
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I’d work in more explicitly character assassination by lying/talking about you behind your back Almost all women are on team woman and will believe what she says about a man, despite them knowing that women lie about other women all the time A weird thing…they realize women have been toxic towards them but their in group bias is just too strong and reflexive I’ve never even had them deny it here of all places…they know they put too much stock in the words of other women and are hugely biased tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:20 PM
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You’ve just outlined the reason why many think women have a hard time being happy with a man They want a guy with a 6 pack that doesn’t go to the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:18 PM
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I agree with a lot of this But how do you explain people that pull themselves out of poverty (like immigrants that get a job cleaning and their kids become doctors) versus folks that have been in a trailer park for generations? That is also partly genetic (dumb and lazy has some DNA involvement also)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:01 PM
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My verdict is I ignore people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:47 PM
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Wow You sound awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:27 PM
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It has an effect sure I don’t agree with the whole “poor people are fat because they can’t afford healthy food” trope that folks use to excuse fat people and also try to increase entitlements It’s more like a lot of poor people are poor because they make bad life decisions and lack impulse control which spills over into their diet and exercise habits….this is generational and also peer related with parents infecting their kids with this I was poor as a grad student for years and you just limit y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:22 PM
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You think this post where you lash out at strangers and say things you can’t know makes you seem sane? You’d probably be nicer to a convicted killer that gave you a hard luck story (my mom never hugged me) than a male that stands up to you here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:14 PM
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I’ve always treated women better than they’ve treated me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:52 PM
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Lol “My husband is so hot when it is Friday the 13th, he’s standing in the moonlight, and wearing that pink shirt I bought him”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:16 PM
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Tons of men say this Men simply love women more than women love men We are less likely to view you as a utility For instance, if a man and woman (in love) get into a car wreck and the woman is trapped in the car while it is on fire, the man will try to free her up to and including giving his life If he doesn’t, then every man will consider him a pussy until the day he dies A woman in a reverse situation? She could just run off into the night “to go get help” while screaming, and everyone will te…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:11 PM
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All that is true But building lean muscle is still way harder than maintaining a healthy BMI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:07 PM
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Also, if you show weakness (at least how they define it) This is why most men have no value onto themselves, we are human doings and judged harshly by performance In contrast, women are human beings and if a man loves and is attracted to you, then he is much more constant Female romantic love towards men just isn’t how men define love and isn’t very strong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:46 PM
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Don’t forget daddy issues in women is just as real I can just sense you jumping up and down in excitement because you got to shit on men just now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:16 PM
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This does sound about right However, screw that I guess I’m too old and jaded to perform for someone at that level This explains a lot of the friction between men and women If I want to study something, neutron stars are way cooler at the moment I think younger men might benefit from this if they accept and ingrain it while still impressionable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:14 PM
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Male mother need is real I was just talking to a guy here that is miserable unless in an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:00 PM
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The old school think paper bags (I was a bag boy 2 years of college) were awesome To keep them dry, you use a small plastic bag to put wet items in (veggies, ice cream etc) which still reduces plastic overall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:59 PM
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Certain flavors of romantic love might require some codependency I think this is why many past cultures did not consider it the highest form of love They don’t give me the tingles, but I love my close friends and family more truly than I have any woman I’ve been in an LTR with It is in part because we now do something which was formerly quite rare We move away from our friends and family for work or school or some rite of passage or adventure and then try to make things work with people we hardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:57 PM
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I just wrote this somewhere else Human uniqueness is such an overblown concept, especially now For some reason, people have been convinced that uniqueness is a good onto itself and that you can’t feel good about yourself unless you are unique Imagine an NBA player, do you think high performers like those guys care about uniqueness or more about excellence? Uniqueness is a cope to make people feel better (hey you are mediocre at everything but let’s discuss your taste in books and that nose ring)…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:41 PM
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I d be more like “My GF is hot so why did she fuck her hair up today?” I’m not pilled or whatever so “y’all” doesn’t fit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:08 PM
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I have heard of it and just looked it up I wouldn’t want a partner like that People with these type of differences usually have too many others for me to handle Humans all want to be unique, but it is so overrated and overused For instance, we look at squirrels and we’re like “yeah that’s a squirrel” If the squirrel was hyper intelligent, it might think “I’m so unique, I have more space between my ears than Tom and my fur is fluffier than John” Nah sorry just a squirrel Imagine how aliens would …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:51 PM
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Maybe this is a personal difference I thought Cindy Crawford was hot when I was a teenager, she’s still hot I can imagine how my hotter exGFs looked and it still does it for me Maybe it is male vs female or maybe it is just a thing with you I don’t know of any women that think Brad Pitt is hot one day and not the next But maybe it is more for borderline cases, for instance if your BF is barely physically attractive to you, then I could see that on some days he is below your threahold
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:45 PM
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Ok Then I guess you are just so made that outside of LTRs you are miserable I can’t relate now But when I was more like you, it was in part because I was viewing myself too much from the lens I thought others were using to examine me Best of luck because I got nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:30 PM
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I am talking with the context of a romantic relationship My physical attraction certainly influences my mental and emotional state…anyone that thinks otherwise might be fooling themselves Again, I’m a guy that disagrees with you, and so you have to interpret what I say in the worst and weakest way possible so you can get your “win”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:20 PM
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As a guy, I have baseline physical attraction that must be there and her other traits can strengthen that but can’t replace it In other words, I can meet the most amazing woman in the world (from a non physical perspective) but if she is not at least cute to me, then we will remain friends I guess this coincides with what you are saying about men versus women But as a guy, if a woman explained to me her secondary attraction to me, I would view it as I experience attraction and conclude that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:07 PM
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I think you need to seek cognitive behavioral therapy and work on yourself You are fixated and determined to be unhappy with the hand you’ve been played Why take your genetic and other “cards” and make yourself feel as bad as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:06 PM
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I just disagree I can be mad at a GF, but if she is hot she is hot And that will help me get over my anger more quickly None of what I said implies attraction and arousal don’t vary but rather there is a baseline But like most blue pillers or whatever that disagree with me here, you interpret my posts in the least charitable way possible because that is the only way for you to feel you’ve “won” with any regularity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:04 PM
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I’m convinced that people were never meant (from a psychological and evolutionary perspective) to get most of their social needs met from a single person From a practical point, it gives them way too much influence over you So, I would say to expand your socialization with friends and family I find that when I do that that worries over romantic status are super muted Once you get your social needs met (learn to make friends if you have to), and you are still pining away for some special gal, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:15 PM
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Yeah people here will say stuff like “I see ugly dudes with women so ugly dudes get laid” They forget the commonality of dead bedrooms, divorce, and people that stay but don’t like each other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:05 PM
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You are basically saying that women can make themselves attracted to a man, which is what OP is saying But it is flimsier than immediate attraction When she is mad at you, then she doesn’t feel all those things, but if you are hot to her then she will still be innately physically attracted OP is right I’m not saying those things you listed don’t count and I’m not saying physical attractiveness is enough….but those things plus immediate physical attraction makes for much better relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:02 PM
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Actually if you age a bit and start enjoying your own company, then you’d rather be alone than with a woman that doesn’t treat you well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:00 PM
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I agree with this Attraction is not self-reflective but settling is In other words, ugly people aren’t attracted to other ugly people People discount the importance of attraction for smoothing out the rough patches
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:59 PM
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I think that if you take testosterone blockers that you have less testosterone than a woman https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23127814/ I don’t know enough about the biochemistry of female libido but I know women that take anabolic steroids report higher libido Also, the male body might “need” more testosterone to function properly For example, a young man with low T might have higher T than a woman of the same age, but one experiences the symptoms of low T and the other does not I wish more peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:41 PM
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Confidence has a very positive feedback The more confident you are the more successful you are which further builds your confidence Failure can be the same for people with low confidence with it begetting a vicious cycle Therefore, in order to get your first wins or breaks, I see nothing wrong with someone faking confidence at first However, as you benefit from this initial facade and gets self affirming wins, then for everyone’s sake you should start easing off of the facade and start trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:41 AM
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I’m a straight male and would stay put Male because I like my physicality and ability to tune out my emotions without it being suffering or depression (I can just choose not to feel things often times) Straight because gay men cheat more than any group there is I don’t want things to be easier on me I don’t care that much about lack of easy sex, sex isn’t the most important thing in life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:34 AM
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You would have to take a testosterone blocker like what they give for prostate cancer or transitioning from male to female My dad had to take them and it was hell He had all the symptoms of low testosterone in men (depression, chronic fatigue, hot flashes, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:30 AM
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I don’t know Porn gets me so horned up that I think it makes me more attracted to women overall I like amateur porn because the women are doing it for free and seem more into it (which puts the lie to the old thinking that no woman could possibly enjoying doing that) and the females in it are more realistic to what you see day to day
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:22 AM
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I don’t know I don’t see it the same We all have preference or ideals But I’ve never told a woman that she doesn’t fit my ideal I wasn’t aware this is now common Maybe it’s also because everyone meets on screens now and so are pre-objectified But to reject every woman that isn’t ideal is dumb and not what I see my friends doing The only female bodies I can’t find attractive at all are ones that are really heavy or really weird shape I knew a thin girl that had an exaggeratedly flat butt and exag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:08 AM
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Just imagine how these folks dirty talk or other stuff. May I comment on the wonderfulness of your loins m’lady? May I pull thy hair gently?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:58 PM
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I’m going off of normal, average men and not online men acting out I love a short, thick girl with curly dark hair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:41 PM
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I won’t entertain your ramblings I have forgotten more about science, logic, math, and related disciplines than you currently know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:40 PM
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I meant me and the women I’m around, as in thanks but no thanks for all the “help” I did not use the royal “we” as if I speak for all men Again, try not to interpret everything a man says in the worst way possible just so you can score a point I think having sex with a passed out or even heavily intoxicated woman (when you are not) is horrible However, 2 drunk and horny people getting it on is maybe not ideal but it isn’t as bad as what feminists would like to say (a drunk woman goes after a dru…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:46 PM
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Obviously drinking and wearing a short skirt is not consent Asking the question is offensive Like asking “hey does your mom do gang bangs?” I do not do the weird consent dance pushed on college campuses where you have to say “Is it okay if I touch your butt?” While a woman has her tongue down your throat and grinding on your lap You obviously just touch their butt and if they aren’t ready then they’ll let you know, I don’t go too fast so I’ve never had an objection (except when my last gf didn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:50 PM
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Women could do a better job of calling out other women It seems though that non crazy feminist women enjoyed some of the fruit of the rabid blue haired harpy but don’t like the consequences of said harpies going too far and demonizing men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:46 PM
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Dave Chapelle had an interesting take on this in a stand up special
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:44 PM
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It is possible to look at the data and see how reliable it might be For instance, what is someone most likely to lie about? Also, it isn’t just the bias, they also don’t go into social science because physics was too easy for them They are the least intelligent scientists on average also Half the time, a trained scientist in what is called a hard science will come to better conclusions from their data than they do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:16 PM
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Ok You probably know, but I was inferring the guy was part of a criminal motorcycle gang We have a hive of them here And they routinely kill each other etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:14 PM
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It doesn’t have to be And I won’t say all studies are bad But these ones where they try to estimate prevalence with a simple survey are bad Why does it seem men cheat way more are they all banging the same handful of floozies? Social scientists are usually very liberal These surveys make women look better than men, so my suspicion is that they are satisfied by it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:20 PM
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Well then thanks for the interesting back and forth!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:19 PM
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Thank you for your service.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:55 PM
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Huh? I am making a simple statement I am not convinced by any self reported infidelity statistics Full stop Are you confusing me with another person you are talking with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:31 PM
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Thanks I take it seriously and try to model healthy behavior for them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:28 PM
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We have no accurate statistics on infidelity It all relies upon self reporting which is notoriously unreliable for issues like this, even if anonymity is promised
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:25 PM
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Spineless men behave better around bitches in order to gain their validation and sex and avoid abuse It is hardly genuine and healthy love Omg I hope this isn’t a trend because some young women will believe it and start acting horrifically
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:19 PM
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STEM and tech are much broader than that I’m more science and engineering. STEM stands for science, technology, engineering, and math I also program in several languages to aid analysis and simulation modeling The folks doing that just for money are often not that great at it and explains some of the software trends I see
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:14 PM
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Strong men competitors and power lifters are often overweight They can list a ton of weight but can’t do body weight stuff very well I’m sure you have a better strength to weight ratio than them The square-cube law sets kind of an ideal size (why pit bulls are better fighters than some larger breeds and why Navy SEALs aren’t all as big as Brock Lesnar). If I recall, most special operators are around 5’ 10” to a little over 6’ and around 180 to 220 lbs (but of course with good body fat %). This i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:55 PM
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If it is specific to the college then you have a point However, people outside of that specific example could at least mention it Why exactly shouldn’t a general anti rape group ignore the most common place where rapes occur? Why do feminists act like men don’t get raped? Why do they sometimes argue that men can’t be raped? I say the simplest answer is that they just don’t care much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:51 PM
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Skinny can help (less weight to pull up) Most guys here are at least 20 lbs overweight I’d say at least half can’t do a single strict pull up with good form (no leg kicking etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:48 PM
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Tight yoga pants are not more comfortable than sweats I wear tight base layers under my hunting clothes so that they can wick sweat better…loose and sweat runs down your back….outside of a layering system with specific components I’d never wear them tight like that It is not as comfortable as something like pajamas or sweats (even accounting for anatomy differences….based upon how they feel outside the groin area) I’ve had women also tell me that tight and low cut shirts are more comfy too I con…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:31 PM
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I live in one of the fat states (there’s like 5 that are about tied and like almost 50% obese) Any woman with discernible hips and breasts (not just a few of many bumpy areas) think they are princesses and are pursued It’s very common to see a skinny guy with a morbidly obese wife or GF On the plus side, if you are a guy and can do a single pull up then you are automatically in around the top 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:28 PM
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I live in a constitutional carry state It doesn’t matter against the 1% type guys here I avoid situations where I might have to use force
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:26 PM
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I’m not a sarcastic narcissist at all I’m well liked at work In fact, I m not a typical tech guy (at least I hope….I’ve had to deal with a lot of guys with social issues)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:23 PM
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This is exactly me I’m really close with my only sibling (bro) and I’m really close with his 2 kids (boy and girl)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:22 PM
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It was a red flag But I was 28 (higher testosterone and less life experience) She was 24 and smart, funny, and exactly my type physically So I put up with too much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:21 PM
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Absolutely I’m just speaking from my experience If I were a hetero woman, I hope my standards would be similar to mine now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:20 PM
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Kids and crazy exes or legal and credit and debt trouble are the biggest examples of potential physical baggage But when I think of how the term is usually used, it means someone that has emotional and psychological problems that are in some way seemingly connected to the past And this latter type might be worse than the physical examples
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:14 AM
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I typo’d sex as sec And what I meant wasn’t that I was going to try at a gas station upon first meeting her I meant that the moment I saw her I could imagine enjoying sex with her in the future (meaning I don’t need time to build physical attraction…it’s just there)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:08 AM
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Special enough for me to get married (and expose myself to the legal system) would have to be crazy special A little special and I might date them So I recognize that special women exist, but I have a very high bar for someone I would marry And it is almost exclusively not about looks To be perfect for me, the woman only has to be cute enough that I immediately want to have sex with them (6 in the face with a nice body) From there it is all about her intellectual and emotional life You’ve actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:00 AM
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Huh? I didn’t insult a woman’s looks here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:57 AM
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I’ve read that scientists have found that viruses and bacteria from a shit can also be in the air but usually not in high enough density to be dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:53 AM
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Takes more than a little special
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:50 AM
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I heard a guy call it free lottery for easy sex Have the expectation as you play the lotto (you assume you won’t win) Just play at it and maybe you’ll get lucky I’ve never done modern dating apps I had a paid match.com account like 17 years ago and I met two GFs off it From what I hear it was way easier on those old internet paid sites because there was still social shame involved and like 30 a month, so women didn’t go on there just for fun and for free attention
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:49 AM
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This splits many groups I’m a big bow hunter Some guys only care about having a big buck to show off and they take the easy path (and even cheat) and don’t care The other group, that I’m in, value ethics and the quality of the hunt more and have fewer nice bucks to show For instance, I never hunt over bait because it is boring as hell to be a corn pile security guard versus walking the mountains trying to figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:45 AM
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It’s way worse to walk into a public restroom after someone takes a super stinky deuce Actual molecules of feces are in the air That’s why you can smell it Someone is going to say “oh it’s just gas”….nope pieces of poop break off into those gases and also just right into the air in the room The chemoreceptors in your nose and chemically binding with shit molecules and triggering sensory neurons to relay to the brain
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:42 AM
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If this was for marriage or LTR and I had full knowledge of both personalities I will pick the ugly nice girl over the pretty bitch every time I’ve dated pretty bitches and learned to hate them fast
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:19 AM
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Also The body standards for women are much easier to attain Basically, look healthy and don’t be overly fat Dieting and light work outs are WAY easier than building lean muscle (like lifting such a heavy weight that you need a spot or you might get hurt) So basically have sex with your boyfriend, don’t be a bitch, and don’t eat so much that you look unhealthy….hell a little chunky if the weight goes mostly to the boobs and butt is sexy too…there’s no place on a man’s body where fat makes him mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:13 AM
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Lol Your last line made me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:12 AM
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I think the hair is a bit too far I never comment on a woman’s appearance except to compliment her I can’t think of a great example It’s more like talk to them with a leisurely smile and not taking anything seriously Like there is no way they can do anything to bother me They’ll actually try this negging on me but I just judo it and turn it into a neutral joke or back to them but more gently than they came at me and it just goes back and forth I hate to say I have natural game, but I think I do …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:04 AM
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She never told me this She just praised me for my masculine traits And if I expressed weakness would punish me I figured her out years later on my own She probably doesn’t even realize it now Why would she care? She was young and hot and had a new steady bf after like 2 months
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:26 AM
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Negging is what guys in feathered hats try to teach guys on the spectrum for 100 an hour And it comes off as cringe as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:58 AM
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As evidenced that anti rape groups ran by women never mention the people that are raped the most in the US which are men in prison I wouldn’t be surprised if they laugh about it and say it serves them right (for getting busted with a pound of weed or something not violent)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:56 AM
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You can’t pull a Jedi mind trick on everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:01 AM
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Where am I blaming anyone for anything? We are talking about actions and what is and is not and about intent I haven’t talked about blame at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:32 AM
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Nope Not falling for it It’s a different thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:22 AM
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I know what negging is and I don’t do it I am just funny in a way the includes them I do not neg or break rapport or any of that garbage And I didn’t read about this It’s just me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:21 AM
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It would be harder to find an example where they don’t For instance, not wanting to pick plans, as a small example I’ve straight up told them “you want someone else to pick because if the food is bad then you don’t want it to be your fault” And they agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:57 PM
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I didn’t in any way say anything to suggest that if a woman dresses a certain way that she deserves bad treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:54 PM
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You can get close to people, just don’t sign a contract that allows their decisions to seriously hurt you I would only marry if I found a true unicorn or I wanted to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:08 PM
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Higher status men still seek validation but it is from men above them, which are fewer in number If you seek everyone’s approval then you are signaling at times that everyone is above you You can be a good person for its own sake and when someone still is an ass about it, then you just don’t care like “well I did my best and if they act like that then piss on them” In that way, you can not care about outcomes while still being a good person and yourself Any guy that goes out of his way to be a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:33 PM
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It’s because in the ancestral environment, an asshole would kill a guy and take his resources and woman anyway So, genetically and practically, it is easier for the woman to just go with the asshole to begin with I got my oil changed the other day at Grease Monkey The guy that talked to me in the pull up area came off like an instant asshole but he also had a Harley parked nearby and was like 5’6” and 130 lbs with bad jailhouse tats everywhere including his neck and hands We have a lot of 1% bik…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:27 PM
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Ants that don’t reproduce are still furthering their genes via kin selection Like how an 80 year old grandpa jumping on a grenade to save all his grandkids is assuring his genes survive more than if he selfishly saved himself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:16 PM
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Accountability in general Women are expected to deflect any problem they’ve created whereas a man that always does that is not respect by other men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:03 PM
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The kindest GF I ever had was likely mildly autistic Incredible artist The only woman I’ve ever truly thought valued and loved me just for me (other than female relatives) The only reason we broke up is because she did not like to talk and getting her discuss anything (even her passions) was like pulling teeth Back to the subject, good men routinely call other men out for selfish behavior towards women I always give advice taking into account that the male and female in question are both thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:02 PM
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I want neither I am most compatible with women that have had almost all of their sex within committed relationships and don’t sleep with guys too quickly but are not waiting for marriage In other words, sex is kind of a big deal to them but not a religious, god is watching kind of big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:00 PM
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I had a very progressive ex I was very progressive and blue pilled at the time And it ruined our relationship She would do things to try to get me to be more of a man and put her in her place if she was not acting in a pro social manner And I just thought she was being a bitch and broke up with her This was 20 years ago and I’ve learned a lot since then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:55 PM
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I work in a tech/STEM field and many women are empowered or whatever Still, if you are attractive to them, they usually love it when you kind of joke with them in a “nicely messing with your little sister” kind of way Most guys can’t do it right Basically, you have to be able to poke fun at them without hurting their feelings while acting kind of aloof and amused by it all Most people aren’t witty enough to do this without being hurtful or overly sarcastic But if you are good at it, it’s absolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:48 PM
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So because a creep will ogle a woman in a trench coat then putting on booty shorts is not usually meant to encourage it Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:38 PM
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You’ve just hoisted yourself on your own pitard If I do a friend a favor for it’s own sake, and do so several times and then I need help and he always refuses Then my good deed was not necessarily not for its own sake nor to create a sort of virtual credit account It is that I have realized that my friend is selfish and doesn’t view our friendship the same or friendship in general the same I now know I cannot really trust him or behave together in the way that most mentally normal men consider a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:36 PM
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Online ones yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:18 PM
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You don’t think subtly enough to know that the way in which psychologists define transactions within relationships does not necessarily include conditionality and fairness (not that I have much admiration for many social scientists) For instance, my best male friendships are characterized by respect and mutual aid If one of my two lifelong friends began acting disrespectfully or like a total mooch, then I would speak with them and reconsider my investment in the friendship This is not transactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:17 PM
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Yeah because online adulterers that like to tell tales are reliable Also, two things can be true at once so long as not mutually exclusive For instance, it is possible that women that married while virgins and those that married as hos are both more likely to cheat Don’t get hung up on life being a simple linear plot on excel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:55 PM
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Look up the difference in brain hemisphere connectivity differences between men and women and what it means Basically, women have way more connections between the logic and emotion circuits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:29 PM
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Actions are done to give an impression The impression wished for such actions require context Dress attire is the context here It’s similar to swinging your hand with and without a knife held in it….you could probably parse that tens ways too Similarly shaking ones butt with a trench coat on is fundamentally different than doing the same with booty shorts instead For once, a feminist is mildly right, based upon simple definitions, but as usual, you miss the larger point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:09 PM
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Putting on clothes with intent and then walking in said clothes is doing a thing, it is acting like something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:54 PM
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I’m middle aged too Experience doesn’t mean that much if you aren’t perceptive If you are a male and view relationships as transactional, then you are likely emotionally disordered I would agree that they usually are not unconditional and that fairness is a thing, but that is not transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:53 PM
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Modern feminism is a lobbying group to remove all accountability from women and place it on males wherever possible while keeping all old accountabilities for men in place A bunch of evil harpies that are anti civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:50 PM
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Many women are not concerned at all with men they are not genetically related to These non relative males are to be used for their purposes as almost a birth right Imagine a male and female walking down the road, concern is expressed for the female and fear for the male (I wonder if she is okay and needs a ride?) This might be understandable but it should at least be acknowledged and it is genetically ground into us When researchers present scenarios and ask for judgment calls and then do the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:44 PM
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Dressing is an action
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:36 PM
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I don’t get it but a lot of men like their women to wear this stuff so that they have something to look at plus to make other guys jealous I had one ex assume I was like that because she had ex BFs that liked it I also have never talked sexually about any of my past GFs because I don’t want to encourage other men to see them in that way This was standard up until around 15 or so years ago Young people that came of age around 15 years ago think a bunch of stuff is normal that was not at all for l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:30 PM
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Here’s what’s funny to me Human emotions are the most animalistic part of us Despite the protestations of blue haired feminists that are into crystals, all reasonably intelligent animals (advanced enough for something we’d say is consciousness but not necessarily self consciousness) have emotions as guiding tendrils from their genetic instincts Following your feelings and wallowing in them is one of the least evolved things you can do, neglecting what makes humans unique, but all the while this …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:27 PM
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Women are not attracted to as many men as men are to women But also women no longer need to get married Also, women are now less likely to be given and heed traditional advice from women in their family A lot of them probably have a single mom as a mother and there’s a decent chance the mom has Ho tendencies And they get their advice from women’s magazines that don’t actually care but are trying to make money while having the desired social impact
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:23 PM
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This is partly why marriage was independently invented in many cultures and those with this cultural tech tended to perform better. It keeps men from fighting and keeps more of them invested in society. But a blue hair feminist disagrees because of course it was only about owning women or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:18 PM
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I don’t believe men that say “I love my wife as much as the next guy but sharing her with other men doesn’t make me jealous and brings us closer”. I also think that a lot of male swingers use their wife to get access to other women. I knew a swinger and he said how you have to bring a woman to go to the clubs so that the sex ratio is right. Yeah, that makes sense, but their wives are still hall passes and tribute they pay to bang other women. I consider it mercenary and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:09 AM
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It’s common for people that are stressed and unhappy and not getting enough sleep to wake up pissed My uncle’s therapist told him about this My guess is you are waking up during some sleep cycle where negative thoughts are more likely
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:04 AM
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Emotions are largely the expression of instincts that are wired in us As such, dogs have strong emotions People like to change the definition of “emotion” so that animals can’t have them (basically define it by giving it uniquely human elements) but those folks are wrong Feral children 100000% have emotions throughout their lives To suggest otherwise is I’ll informed and kinda monstrous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:59 AM
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This is totally false And if you actually read this somewhere, I bet it was a pro choice source that was trying to make abortion sound better
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:56 AM
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Basically a more grandiose version of “people like boats so get a boat and people will want to hang out with you to ride on your boat” The argument for this is that they might eventually start liking you and not being purely transactional I could do it if I wouldn’t see it a mile away and be turned off by it I’m in a career where it pays for certain people to kiss my ass It’s pleasant that so many people are nice to me, but it is often unclear which ones call me a prick after they hang up the ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:39 AM
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This place has just turned into a place for people to shit on each other Like you just did
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:32 AM
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Not always Older or more shy women can have massive crushes that they hide perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:28 AM
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That is common where you live and in the circles you are in socially Go outside certain areas of large cities and those guys are anomalies You should travel more I might add a lot of feminist women secretly think these guys are weak and don’t like them as much as they would with red blood
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:03 PM
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Did I say 80%? Don’t specify my argument in the exact way that would most help your own I swear Modern kids need to take a logic course It’s flipping awful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:01 PM
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They want to hang out with men that aren’t their significant other
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:00 PM
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I’m guessing secure = high self esteem and confidence to you? It’s awesome you’ve identified how everyone with that trait should think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:58 PM
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The person you replied here to is an internet tough guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:57 PM
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I was talking about you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:55 PM
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Yep Women confuse reality for the BS copes their female friends come up with over Sunday brunch to make the sad one happy again “Ah girl he doesn’t want to go out with you?” “I bet he’s gay or is just insecure” Women act like men haven’t watched them do this in real time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:54 PM
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You honestly think the only reason a man would prefer a women with a notch count of 5 over one with 500 Is insecurity? Why don’t you listen to men instead of the hamster wheel spinning?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:52 PM
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Women act like they wear this crap at home alone Knock on their door Sunday and they are in sweats and a big t shirt…not booty shorts and a bustier top
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:50 PM
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They do it for themselves in that they like male attention You are just slightly modifying this as a get out of jail free card For instance, women have told me they dress sexy (boobs out) because it makes them feel more confident and better about themselves, so it is for them Well, they feel better because it makes them feel good to have men sexually attracted to them So, it’s just word play You actually wrote that women post thirst traps for themselves and not men…,that’s actually funny and jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:49 PM
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You think you will get a true opinion walking up to a random guy on the street and asking him politically and otherwise charged questions? Are people here just selectively naive? Do you only consider modern men the ones at Starbucks in Manhattan wearing skinny jeans and a scarf?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:44 PM
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No It’s just obvious Promiscuous people, male or female, that are used to quickly getting into bed for casual sex are more likely to cheat Full stop You can’t spin that away Your words are not magical incantations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:40 PM
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I was talking to an ex about female military service She said that women should be able to try out for infantry roles and do them if they can I said sure, but how do you account for men sometimes being forced into infantry roles while in your hypothetical women could choose it or not based upon their preference? And even try it out and then quit and do another job She is a smart person but simply could not understand why this might need discussed or be a thing I tried to explain for so long and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:38 PM
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Yep Reject a woman and she will turn cold and often act like she hates you It’s because she took a chance and got embarrassed and she blames you for her bad feelings, no matter how you handled it Men are expected to shake it off and act like nothing happened I feel many women are so in their feelings that they cannot zoom out and see things like this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:34 PM
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I somewhat agree But do you not think there is some expectation of a difference between behavior while single vs behavior when committed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:32 PM
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We’ve got a few groups Wokesters that think we are socially constructed beings almost entirely (when it suits them only) The religious that think we are mostly spiritual beings Folks that see us as really smart evolved apes with DNA and behaviors from long before we were even human still floating around I’m in group 3 It makes absolute sense to me why women like certain male traits. It also makes sense to me why many, many men feel revulsion at the thought of loving, marrying, and raising a fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:30 PM
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People use their power and abuse it Both sexes Women have a power to call men controlling and insecure and everyone nods their head People use and abuse their power levers often without noticing Women realize this about men but not typically about themselves, except when it is a woman to woman issue…then they suddenly see these things Women often act like they are at war with men, men usually want to protect women, let men push back against women at all and women lose their minds
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:22 PM
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A lot of women want these girls nights where they dress revealing and they hang out with random strange men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:16 PM
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A random social scientist from a random school probably doesn’t understand much and also wants to support their own biases Surveys show women in a better light than men regarding infidelity etc and so they wipe their hands as if done They never explore a way to determine the truthfulness of answers For instance, regarding infidelity stats, they should ask people things like “has your best friend ever cheated?” and then a follow up to determine how they rate their own confidence in knowing Guess …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:13 PM
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A lot of marriages are not happy Even more so if one or both people do not have attraction for the other This is just basic observation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:06 PM
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Um…..what you originally wrote was much more extreme than what you are following up with What you just wrote is reasonable What you first wrote was not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:50 PM
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Stop using red herring wrong It is a specific thing and not just parsley to decorate your comments It comes from a tale where someone dragged a dead herring fish across their trail to fool a bloodhounds nose It is a purposeful act of misdirection and cunning You cannot be confused yourself and say a confusing or wrong thing and have that be a red herring It is a purposeful act of cunning You used red herring term on me recently and it was also wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:30 PM
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Part of the indoctrination is to ignore those clues and think really hard until you square the circle and make it go away from your thoughts Also, most families aren’t like yours and wouldn’t tell an ugly kid “hey you’re screwed unless you get surgery or money or something”….they’d lie to protect the hopes of a child and hope for the best themselves Despite being honest, talking mad shit behind peoples backs to a child is an asshole move
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:24 PM
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Do you know how many married women stay but aren’t attracted to their husbands? It’s a significant slice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:20 PM
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Listen Almost everyone gets fooled a little in relationships or surprised I’ll say because it takes years to actually know someone So, you’re basically victim blaming here But if the victim is a straight white male, then you’re probably cool with that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:14 PM
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You simply don’t have enough life experience You millennials…..always right on the internet, in real life you couldn’t build a birdhouse if given a full workshop and 8 hours
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:11 PM
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I was talking about your post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:09 PM
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For a lot of women, their male “friends” that validate them (and want to sleep with them) are more important than any boyfriend If they slow down hanging with Jeff the guy that flirts with them and the others, then when their relationship ends they won’t have a simp self esteem support system and they’ll have to reestablish it This becomes a self fulfilling prophecy because all these guys sniffing around help to end their relationships and hence necessitate the existence of these guys sniffing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:57 AM
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You act like any compromise is controlling And that people don’t learn and evolve together This thinking is exactly why modem relationships are failing a good bit I can basically reverse a lot of the tales here and be closer to reality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:48 AM
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You are assuming that the guy has full knowledge of someone before being serious This is not the case always You have cognitive blind spots that you could drive a truck through
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:46 AM
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It isn’t controlling to tell someone something like “You didn’t hang out with men alone when we started dating, you want to do that now with your new male friend, and it is not acceptable to me. If you insist on doing that, then I will reevaluate this relationship and might leave.” But you probably think that is some other buzzword designed to remove any control a male had over his life once he gets with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:44 AM
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Listen, most men that act like nothing ever bothers them are play acting being secure as a LARP Most self styled tough guys are deep down very troubled and emotionally weak Perfect example are outlaw biker types, those dudes just run in a pack for protection and most of them are mentally ill, often with cluster b personality disorder (which are extremely common among inmates…and means deep down they are total emotional pussies)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:40 AM
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We get called insecure for avoiding these women We get called insecure when a woman is fake and we later find out she doesn’t fit us and we leave OP is right that “insecure” is the main tool hanging off the “debate tool belt” Notice the hardly any male here just blanket condemns a woman as insecure and thinks that that somehow wins the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:38 AM
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It’s because average men are not real men to them and don’t count
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:32 AM
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A new partner every month for 5 years is a lot No way I would invest time with that person
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:09 AM
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I don’t but I’ve been asked by women If a guy asks a gal this, she will likely lie and then be very careful afterwards You’ll never know the truth or know that you know the truth, so just play it cool and you ll be able to tell if a woman acts like she is overly promiscuous or has an unhealthy relationship with male attention You don’t need the exact number A previous ex was promiscuous as heck I have no idea what her real number is…I just let her talk until I knew her relationship with sex and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:08 AM
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You’re full of it Nothing I’ve written indicates a Madonna whore complex You are projecting onto me I’m guaranteed a more grounded person and more rational than anyone that could write as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:28 PM
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This is a ridiculous question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:26 PM
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Rational humans make good choices as far as who to associate with and ignore people that want them to do things they perceive as wrong for them Real men is such an obvious shaming and control tactic It’s funny Men have been laughing about that one for years
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:05 PM
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I hope you are joking It’s like conjure real men and then add your own requirement without any justification
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:04 PM
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Absolutely If he has social anxiety and fears approaching and stays to himself, then he’s screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:14 PM
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A “real man” being one that agrees with your opinions You wouldn’t know a real man if he pinched your butt (if your a man or woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:00 PM
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What percentage of married men are not considered attractive by their wives and not given sex with any frequency at all? It’s enough that these folks have their own subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:51 PM
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Ok If you think 1 and 1,000 are the same Then you might not have lost the debate objectively (not sure if this can be done regarding this subject), but you have lost the debate among almost all humans other than rabid wokesters or sex workers lobbying for their own self-interest (1,000 being crazy and bad is a nearly universal subjective human opinion, regardless of which sex has that count) But I could at least make a case using some data and a few other things, but you’d just wave your hand at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:45 PM
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There is a dumb stereotype where intelligence is correlated with goofiness This is a TV and movie trope and also a “cope” for people that aren’t that smart (“well I’m not that smart but at least I have common sense and I’m not weird”)….basically, the smartest person in the room supposedly the most bizarre, unless it is a woman and then they might make her perfect in every way For those that have been around a mix including enough folks with very high intelligence, smart guys are about as likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:33 PM
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It’s quite easy to understand Saying “n count doesn’t matter” full stop entails that 1 is the same as 1,000 When you want to make it 5 vs 25 and avoid having to explain why 1,000 doesn’t matter, then you are basically admitting that n count does matter in some circumstances But you’d rather not go there (because it hurts your argument) and would rather take someone into the weeds by comparing low average to high average and then arguing over thresholds If what I’m saying doesn’t make sense, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:25 PM
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Sock bin at the second hand store…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:17 PM
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If a woman was already average ish when younger and/or she picked up a lot of baggage Then it gets really hard for them and some become bitter and desperate These are the ones that often start pursuing men pretty aggressively
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:16 PM
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It’s because if your logic is correct, the it should not have an obvious limitation If it has an obvious limitations, then you should recognize and think on that or explore it more instead of being such a smug leftie Current young people simply can’t argue usually Your objection is the exact point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:08 PM
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Many women like hot men that are also smart Almost none find intelligence enough to make an ugly guy hot I won’t discuss myself because I’ll be accused of various things here But I happen to have a background that has put me into contact with a decent chunk of people with IQ at least 2 SD above the mean, perhaps 3 or more SDs in some cases This is evidenced by my ability to judge this, them getting perfect scores on the SAT or GRE or other test, and also achievements (making important scientific…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:42 PM
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See, you are adding the “immoral and beneath them” part I don’t blame you much The current American educational system is horrible and politicians and folks on the news don’t argue fairly or logically Just because I would not marry a porn star or a butcher does not mean that I think they are immoral or beneath me Take for example someone’s height, if a woman doesn’t want to marry a short man then would you jump to her thinking she must think them “beneath her” in the figurative sense? No And the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:37 PM
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That was a long text to explain why your question is a dumb trap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:33 PM
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It’s interesting that current progressives think if you can attach consensual sex to something that it then makes it off limits to question It is an over correction for when people judged gay people very negatively The overcorrection goes like this “people have no control over what sexually excites them, therefore we are not to have an opinion on any consensual act” This leads to all sorts of strange things For instance, let’s say I like to go out on the weekend, make bikers mad, and get beat up…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:30 PM
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Yeah They never get that some of us have dated a fair share That since promiscuous women date many men that many of us will have had experience with at least one And that we can accurately compare them to non promiscuous women They just assert “nope doesn’t make a difference” over and over and make up other stuff It’s like arguing against a zoo keeper that chimps aren’t dangerous or something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:40 PM
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They hate when the inverse of their logic is shown as being more likely accurate Reminds me of Douglas Adams’ parable of the mud puddle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:38 PM
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Your point has no stopping criterion Folks nowadays hate someone pointing that out and also doing the exploit of turning into an informal reductio ad absurdum of sorts To that end, are you suggesting that a woman that has been with 500 different men is indistinguishable from one that has been with 5?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:36 PM
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He doesn’t want to invest the months it takes to determine if someone is trustworthy People lying about their past so often partially fuels this type of thing Also, his search would possibly pick up people that posted their OFs content in preview form as advertisement or would catch leaks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:28 PM
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This doesn’t make sense My your logic, what do you think of LEO that looks at this stuff to catch criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:22 PM
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Someone doing this with an eye for decreasing false positives would likely use this only as a dragnet and then visually examine and compare several images to establish their own confidence level
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:20 PM
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Wouldn’t it be more accurate to call someone a hypocrite if they were in porn and judged someone else for also doing porn? (like to like) I think we need a better definition of hypocrisy. For instance, if I enjoy steaks cut by a local butcher while simultaneously neither wanting to be a butcher nor date a butcher am I then a hypocrite? Why does it become hypocrisy when my genitals become involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:12 PM
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My age is immaterial and the way you write as to demand information makes we want to give you less of it You are using a debate trick, actually sophistry, where you, perhaps unwittingly, are using the continuum (aka bald man) fallacy to your advantage, so you think. I cannot give you an exact number. I only consider someone “town bicycle” category once they have obviously surpassed any standard I might have. I do not quibble over gray area. For instance, if I defined a bald man (hence the termin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:40 PM
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Name almost any famous and helpful liberally minded person from history, and if they were alive today a horde of modern shit libs that don’t know shit about shit (but think they know everything because of phone and Wikipedia) would try to get them cancelled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:01 AM
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Quote your definition of “red herring” and why my post is one It’s not and you’re just using big words
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:48 PM
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Really common Average guy, not getting any, meets a cute girl Then he proudly announces “hey Stacy had a FWB when we met, but she likes me and is gonna stop seeing that guy” [insert deerpy grin]
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:56 AM
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Women do notice men “beneath” them of the man is exceptionally attractive, however it is likely to be a rags to riches story but rather a “I screwed the janitor at work behind my husband’s back” story
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:47 AM
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They want above average men to celebrate and worship their averageness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:40 AM
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You know damn well what I meant I meant very unlikely to co-occur in the same person It is extremely obvious what I meant and that I was not writing on Reddit like I would doing a logical proof You’re the second person to point this out If trying to be smart, you gain more points by steel manning someone than by pointing out things only slightly above a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:38 AM
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You got my point I was not using “contradictory” in the strict way befitting a discussion of formal logic As evidenced by me stating “nearly impossible” later These fantasy people are maybe 1 in a million, almost everyone errs on one side or another We both seem to agree most unicorns are a jackass with a dunce cap In fact, appearing to be a unicorn is a red flag The reason is that there are many more liars pretending be unicorns than actual unicorns (maybe 1,000 to 1) So if you find a unicorn (…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:35 AM
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Yeah it’s kind of a tautology or Zen koan or fortune cookie if translated Women are happier not having sex because they never go without sex A more sensical theses might be Women tend to be happier because they have more social support and can attract men more easily (for both long term or casual things) But I don’t have a dog in this fight because I don’t care anymore I wouldn’t want to be a female, I like being a man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:16 AM
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If you are willing to be celibate, then not having to deviate from your path to please someone just to get sex is obviously a bonus You can do more with more energy and fewer constraints You seem to have an immature view that all men rank sex as one of the most important things (this changes once you are 40 plus) and that people are thinking about how others score them and trying to gain points by not changing Most really exceptional people that made a difference in the right way (and not exerti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:04 AM
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Many people desire conflicting traits in a romantic partner The chaste woman that also is down to have a lot of sex and learn all about sex from her husband Is one example men hold Women have their own, like the super tough and masculine man that dominates and instills fear in other men but also has a sensitive heart of gold towards her and their kids This is just part of the human condition The key in life is to call yourself on your own BS Just realize all this and that you want something almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:59 AM
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You act like all insecurities are caused by a defect and also irrational Yeah, I would feel a loss of security if I married the town bicycle I’m weird like that….noticing patterns around me and looking into the future and all….if done well the less smart people around you might even accuse of witchcraft
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:55 AM
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Or they think they have no other options, either because they don’t feel attractive or because they think everyone does this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:50 AM
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I ll give up a few years to have more freedom But this likely influenced in this way: attractive people are more likely to be married and attractive people tend to be healthier since many attraction markers are actually surrogates for health ( many obvious examples like healthy skin and teeth and facial symmetry)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:23 AM
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I am a guy and understand male psychology more than I do female psychology I have no idea how a guy can develop feelings for a woman while both people are simultaneously banging other people I’d never be exclusive with a woman that was having sex with one or more different men when I met her This was kind of the norm before everyone supposedly changed ( which happened to coincide with internet, smart phones, and social media) Marriage and birth rates will continue to decline
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:19 AM
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Well, in that case, thanks and sorry for my rant reply! I have literally had people tell me that a guy’s wife can leave a lover’s house after a marathon session, sleep with the husband right then as she walks in the door, and there is no way the husband would know because “vaginas don’t work like that” I mean, I’m a huge fan of the female anatomy, but they aren’t magic! I chalked it up to I’m a man and so I of course am dumb as shit and can’t know anything about women! I actually caught an exGF …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:16 PM
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Actually, I know how a penis feels in a vagina better than any biological female on Earth And you’ve just reinforced my point If you’re a dude, then you either have a smaller one (doesn’t stretch the woman much at all) or you haven’t had much sex Ask any honest male if his GF feels different after 1 hour between sex sessions or after 1 week This can’t even be debated by a thinking and honest person You’re simply parroting talking points created to combat the admitted myth that sex with many diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:11 PM
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Did you hear about Lisa? The whole football liberated her all night last weekend….it was like a train to freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:36 PM
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Yep Women exercise power by controlling the social network and acceptable thoughts and words In fact, they even tell men how female vaginas feel around a penis Recently, I posted here that if a man’s wife started having regular sex with another male that the husband can possibly detect a change….because her sexual habits/frequency changed Women of course told me I’m wrong (because they have a penis and know what that is like)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:15 PM
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Average looks A guy can date an average looking woman and then see all sorts of special things about her that he loves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:46 PM
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I d rather have 5 or 10% of women drilling over me You just pick one you like and she’ll probably treat you well longer term People discount how much the physical and sex help relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:21 PM
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There is selective service, which all men have to register for That is the list that we are drafted from, if that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:10 PM
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In science, the sample size is often written as N =
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:55 PM
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3.5 days/week x 5.5 men/day x 4 weeks/month x 4 months = 308 men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:45 PM
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Huh I guess I’m a more attainable height or something I have experienced this from several mean a year for the past 20 years I guess because I am the height they lie to become (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:45 PM
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Yep The only men always honest about their height are 6 foot or more I’m 6 foot barefoot and not cheating Shorter guys always tell me I must be at least 6’2” because they are 6 foot I’m sure truly tall guys (I’m just a little above average) get this constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:02 PM
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I knew a married woman that legit weighed over 300 lbs….she was so heavy that my ability to judge her weight is gone (I can judge if a woman weighs around 170 lbs or something but her size breaks that ability for me) She had 2 guys that she cheated with that were in much better shape (normal weight and appearance) There is nowhere that morbidly obese men are having casual sex with multiple average women, unless maybe he is paying them or he is rich/famous
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:59 PM
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This is simply because men think that male attractiveness to women is roughly a bell curve, similar to how they view women Women view men differently than how men view women Men look at themselves and think perhaps rightly that they are a good bit above average compared to other men, but that does not mean women will find you attractive at all One reason for this phenomenon is that women have lower testosterone and lower libido on average, so it takes a stronger stimuli It’s more similar to a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:54 PM
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Just calling it RP isn’t an argument The whole “did hitler like cake?” Style logical fallacy If you don’t think women judge men based upon their relationship status then you’ve been living in Antarctica or just lie to yourself or others….it’s so obvious as to be self evident I’m not a red piller but tons of what they say is true and is often backed up However the entire field of evolutionary psychology and human evolution is under attack by feminists and other groups….simply because it supports …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:01 PM
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Things that make sense to men don’t make sense to women and vice versa Women tend to want a natural born winner that other women want and will help her make healthy kids and the male kids should grow up to be a Chad just like Dad Women here tend to think men that give up on women haven’t had any, whereas some of us have had enough to have had enough, so to speak For instance, dated a girl for months, did stuff that got her rev’d up like getting in a huge bouncers face that disrespected her/etc….…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:58 PM
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Changing for a specific woman you aren’t with at all is a dysfunctional “sniper” approach to dating…where you go from specific target to specific target Also, if a woman rejects you because you are fat, you go lose weight, do not tell her (before or after you start dating) that you did it for her….some guys would find endearing but most women will be put off or even scared by if (also it will make the accomplishment seem tainted in her eyes)….it’s just a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:49 PM
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If you’ve been around many women, then it’s obvious why
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:32 PM
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Eh…this can backfire Had a women talk about her love of butt play during dinner on our first date It was meant to entice me, it seemed, but had the opposite effect You can’t just talk without having someone think you are being weird or controlling their reaction For instance, if I talked to a woman about sex, she would likely think I was softly/indirectly propositioning her or at least putting out bait with some plausible deniability It would be great if we could just all be frank (and Frank) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:31 PM
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Female vanity is brave and sacrificing? If women starve themselves for men to the extreme that is pathology and should be addressed individually But in the more mild cases, women are responding to their instincts from the ancestral environment in which we evolved…during that time females without male protection and provision had a very bad time Men want women much more than the converse, but women need men more This is also why most women cannot understand a man that is fed up with dating them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:44 PM
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In comparison to whom, all non single men? I’d say that your substantial reason is a partial and somewhat ad hoc and post hoc rationalization It’s more about females being the arbiters of social acceptance and they don’t like that which doesn’t further their aims I might have to make a t shirt with a little Venn diagram that visually explains that although many serial killers are single males that the majority of single males are not serial killers, sorta help folks understand conditional probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:41 PM
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https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1018967-the-fundamental-defect-of-the-female-character-is-a-lack
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:44 PM
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I was around groups of people, not in a healthcare capacity I see what you are doing The 2 fields (healthcare and K12 Ed) are female dominated and that is why we had to hear about how brave they are continually Further, back to the original point, taking care of a Covid patient is not as brave as saving a woman you don’t know from a knife wielding rapist You literally found the one common example of women being brave to help men they aren’t related to, I’ll give you that and won’t further besmir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:28 PM
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Learn to identify not only aggression but also the passive aggression of “joking” a guy is gay for appreciating another guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:25 PM
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Nope I have multiple STEM degrees and consult/problem solve for an industry you rely upon to stay alive everyday I was “in the field” continually and had paperwork to show why I could go about anywhere (didn’t have to follow all lockdown protocols) I’m a male and this industry is male-dominated that I work within, and so none of us sat around and talked about how stunning and brave we were as heroes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:20 PM
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Do I have to add “on average” or “typically” to every statement I make which imply I am not, in fact’ making universal statements? Further, what I wrote has been studied about sex difference And the more liberal countries are more women go into traditionally female jobs Wanna find the most female engineers? Go to a poor country where people have to be practical or starve
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:11 PM
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Listen You are imagining it through your lens or what you’ve seen in movies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:10 PM
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The whole “we are heroes” thing is totally overblown And they did it in part to keep getting paid They weren’t volunteers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:09 PM
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See A man appreciates another man, and you assume the male must be sexual You’re a fool
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:07 PM
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You are assuming she did something that I just missed Why do you assume that? It’s probably, like most women, you resort to in group bias whenever a man and woman are in conflict It’s weird women will bitch about a toxic woman but would probably side with her if she was in conflict with her husband It’s a knee jerk pathology at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:03 PM
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I’ll give you an example And exGF had an extremely sensitive clit Any direct touching of it was off limits, just the area around it and moving the hood etc but nothing should touch the part of the clit that is exposed to the air Well, you’d think she’d tell me that, right? Nope, like 6 months in she blows up on me and spills all this and then tells me “You should just know this!!!” She probably thought all women were the same or just was being overly emotional But I don’t think you actually know…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:27 PM
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You wrote dumb stuff in public, that is reason enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:17 PM
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The physical cues must be apparent It can’t be “well my back did momentarily arch”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:16 PM
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I’m single and childless Many women see male worth through “what does he do for women and children and can he get access to women?” It’s so dysfunctional Women don’t see this very often because it has been shown that the two sides of their brain are more interconnected This sounds like a good thing, but a consequence is that women have a much harder time separating their logical thinking from their emotional impressions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:14 PM
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I’m not pilled but I like it when people see reality accurately I like it when people tell the truth I like it when people take responsibility for their own actions I like it when people care about others and see everyone (even straight white men) as equally human The current feminist movement is a laughing stock If it takes years of training to believe and support non-complex things, then you know it is BS Like the whole “intersectionality” thing is just a wrong take on something statisticians …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:12 PM
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This is a main difference Men like physical objects (I.e. observable reality and practicality) Women like people and emotions (I.e. you can just make stuff up and not test it and have a definite rebuttal to your ideas….just keep spinning it away) It reminds me of how female friend groups tend to support each other Jane did a bad thing and made her husband mad She brings this to her girl Sunday brunch round table All the women start spinning ideas until they find a narrative that takes the blame …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:07 PM
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Joe has a much higher IQ than average, he just comes off like a regular, well, Joe sue to being humble and has on people that are world class intellects (which makes him seem not as smart as he is by way of comparison) He is also a deeply decent person Lastly, the idea that you can’t listen to someone you disagree with often is wrong headed and one reason the world is as F’d up as it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:59 PM
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I am talking about women that do not communicate and so to “just get” requires more than normal attention….you’d have to be taking her vitals or something to see if you were moving in the right direction I’ve had women that would not even make audible noise because they were so bashful/not understanding the situation They would lubricate and show other physical signs and maybe an orgasm at the end, but with no “yes, keeping doing that” or guiding of the hand/etc….then you are asking the guy to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:56 PM
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Rogan has more integrity in his little finger than you probably do in your whole body You just believed the hit pieces put out by corporate media that doesn’t like that people trust him but not the news
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:52 PM
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Lol Replied to wrong person Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:52 PM
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Yeah I’m going to look at your lack of example and my lives experience and not believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:51 PM
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Rogan has more integrity in his little finger than you probably do in your whole body You just believed the hit pieces put out by corporate media that doesn’t like that people trust him but not the news
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:39 PM
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Try your best using google to find examples of a woman risking her life to save her husband or any male she is not genetically related to You will have trouble configuring a search to return any/much because the algorithm will give 100s or 1,000s of stories of the opposite (man saving woman) because it is so much more common I’ve tried this multiple times, even if you can find women saving men the results will still contain mostly the converse Women can love men that are not their sons or otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:29 PM
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Because this isn’t a space that women tend to complain in, they do it on friendlier turf usually
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:24 PM
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Women might not realize that women are more diverse than men are when it comes to what feels good/works They also want it just to happen because telling you somehow ruins it Or they are bashful around sex Or their idea of a real man is someone that just gets it Or they want a man with so much experience with different women that they just know Or they think the guy has had sex with as many women as they have had men (a lot of relationships end up where the woman has slept with twice as many peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:52 PM
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At least you won’t accidentally marry the “town bicycle” Young folks traveling to a large town by themselves to live and then meeting and trusting someone you hardly know and don’t have any outside info on is common now but historically rare It’s actually weird given human behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:48 PM
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Uh huh….that’s a fair assessment of this, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:45 PM
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Danke Schoen
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:44 PM
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Lol You think after what I wrote that I’m not capable of understanding what you wrote? Yeah, what you wrote is just obvious and not interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:24 PM
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Anything majorly disruptive would cause most of us not to exist because your existence is predicated on the exact sperm and egg that connected that night If your parents had conceived you in a different position or room or 1 minute later, then a different sperm would almost certainly have created a different child, genetically speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:05 PM
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I wouldn’t date anyone super political or with extremist or inflexible ideas They are super boring because they want to steer everything to their pet cause and they are so sure of themselves that they cannot engage in interesting discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:38 PM
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I live in a fat state, in the fat USA Here, any woman that has discernible breasts and hips (not just 2 of several lumpy areas) thinks she’s a queen You see fit men with overweight women all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:13 PM
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Depends In smaller towns, people have an idea
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:36 PM
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Interestingly, I could have used your Tourette’s example and gotten you to give me a similar or exact answer regarding the human view of agency I just used an example that was ouchie to your feels or you just needed to add a dig because you sensed I wasn’t on your team You’ve supported my point here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:52 PM
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The underlying idea is How much does a person’s ability to choose freely inform our view of their behaviors? My post was NOT a comparison It was an analogy using extreme subject matter to underline a point of discussion And it went right over your head
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:36 PM
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This is a common refrain Person A makes an analogy that is somewhat extreme in order to highlight a point Person B states “well that isn’t the same thing” or “are you saying women are like serial killers?” To that I say, you don’t understand how reasoning in the abstract works
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:16 PM
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Let’s say we found a serial killer gene that in certain environments making being a serial killer way more likely That dang Dahmer had no choice, let’s say for the sake of this Now, how might that change how we view him and his actions? Would we still dislike his actions? Would we still dislike him? Take it a step further and imagine a robot programmed to annoy you….how would you view the robot? My questions are simply to show that maybe this is a more complex subject
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:18 PM
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Blue pillers believe in patterns when it suits them All ideologues have an inconsistent world view (ie they don’t evaluate all ideas with the same rubric lest they be wrong about their special thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:00 PM
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Because human diversity is overstated because we see it from the inside of the group and our egos are involved Take squirrels for instance Tony the squirrel might think “I don’t know why humans just call us all squirrels as a group. Why look at the color pattern on my tail, certainly that makes me unique” Just switch in humans
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:59 PM
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Or “work wife” or “work husband” I can’t imagine being married or in a LTR and cultivating “a special lady at work that I spend most of my social time at work with” or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:57 PM
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Sure Number 2 was basically ignored Number 1 is “women pursue you like hounds from hell” And there is no middle position Your conception is distorted and does not match reality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:41 AM
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Be yourself Because what good is it to gain a thot while losing your authentic self?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:26 PM
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It likely meant “too confident for who you are” and was an indirect insult
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:25 PM
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Eh…unless you say this perfectly and have charisma, it’s likely to backfire on you Like you are trying to instill false confidence Would you do this with a stranger in any other situation? An extreme example “Hey, I know that a few kids have been abducted from this park, but let the record show that I’m not that kinda dude” Best approach is to be attractive and smooth…at least smooth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:28 PM
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If they estimate with a logical method and then are explicit in their methods, then this is very different than a guess In fact, many things in the past (like age of Earth) are estimates using known methods If you think this is the same as a wild guess, then you don’t understand science enough yet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:23 PM
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There seems to be a gap between 1 and 2 High normie or low Chad Women don’t commonly hotly pursue them, at least not hot women, but average to low average women do sometimes and cute women will sometimes make it very easy for them This type of guy might be 6 foot, muscular, but face is average or slightly above
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:16 PM
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It’s based upon genetic analyses and probability theory
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:14 PM
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I don’t think bars are your “thing” As far as attractiveness, if a guy has a handsome face, then he will know because women will periodically tell him right to his face If women do not approach and compliment you at least once in a while, then you are probably a 7 or lower in the face It doesn’t mean you are ugly A woman with a hot bod and a 7 face will be popular among men, but the lower female libido means most of them only respond to super stimuli I don’t think women are interested in actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:12 PM
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Once I got in my 30s, I purposefully stopped asking any direct questions. I knew I probably wouldn’t get the truth, and knew I probably wouldn’t like the truth. But I still cared. Some women here wrongly take a guy not asking and seeming easy going as not caring. Acting like you don’t care is the best way to get closer to the truth. Even though I stopped ever asking, I still looked for “tells” and based some decisions partially on that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:05 PM
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For a young male, the sheer lack of physical intimacy is in itself a huge issue It often warps their minds if they think they ll be a kissless virgin their whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:22 PM
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I misread countries And I don’t know how things are there I do not many mass shooters in the US look like and even admit to being kissless virgins It will never be studied to answer the question because the results might be politically incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:19 PM
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Huh ? Prostitution is illegal in all of the US except a few spots in Nevada
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:42 PM
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When men only want sex, then they don’t care When men want a relationship, they often do care This is why you have women that claim “Men don’t care about n count. All the men I let hit it on the first date didn’t even mention it! None of those worked out though…” The reason you see a contradiction is because you are taking a diverse set of people with different views and even different views by the same person in different contexts, and acting like all those various views belong to a single pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:32 PM
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The problem is both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:30 PM
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Imagine what would happen if the US decriminalized prostitution and so all these desperate guys could easily get nookie
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:57 PM
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Also, women can more easily be single and have a FWB In fact, their FWB will on average be more attractive than their exBFs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:55 PM
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True It just annoys me when poly or open or cucks play It up like “We’re just normal people and this lifestyle is only for the most in love”. Or something similar No, most of them are weird at first glance, their relationships blow, and they are pervs indulging in pervy-ness and there’s no big lesson or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:27 PM
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Some people are just wired super weird Like I cannot imagine a mentally health man that respects himself and loves his wife and isn’t bisexual wanting to see his wife with another man I guess it’s possible, but when you see these cuck or open relationships, the people seem weird, desperate, disturbed, or perverted Like the husband revels in calling his wife names while she is with other men That just doesn’t fit any normal definition of love and respect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:48 PM
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Unless you’ve known someone from childhood, the relationship will tend to be transactional and not deep You ll find, as an adult, that the more you provide (killer party boat) and the less you ask for that the more even nice people like you, it’s largely subconscious You’ll also find that if you slow down your communications with someone that they will reach out to you more, if you reach out to them first a lot then they will not reach out to you often and will even start to find you annoying Hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:44 PM
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You don’t need an exact number, you just need “probably too high for me” Plus, I just find the traits associated with promiscuous women to be inherently unattractive even if the woman is not promiscuous Like acting thirsty for male attention and acting inappropriately towards other men….bad trait even if the woman is a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:39 PM
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I read about an older woman going away for the weekend for the first time with a new guy She went to the gynecologist to get hormone creams and advice so that she could have sex (usually too painful) and said it was “to put her best foot forward” Which means “trick the guy into thinking sex will be common in their relationship” I don’t why she was stressing if she had a mouth and booty hole….I kid, I kid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:29 PM
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Only if the death was a result of her negligence….because that probably means she’s crazy and will give me some of that hot crazy girl sex I’ve heard about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:26 PM
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Yep Women that are relatively average in the face but have: nice teeth, nice bod, nice hair, and dressing to show off bod can be considered smoke shows What is an average guy with a jacked body called? Overcompensating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:21 PM
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True, the math I showed assumed an independence that is not realized But it is still much less than a 50% chance to be above 50% regarding multiple traits
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:15 PM
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What about a dial that can make you attracted to any woman? So if you find a good woman that is unattractive they you can make yourself super into her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:55 PM
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The “most couples” are looks matched is a bit of red herring Yes, women can’t date the level of guy they can just bang The guys they let hit it casually are usually better looking than the woman Relationships are much closer in looks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:51 PM
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Actually, you can do the reverse also, yes Male and female faces aren’t that horribly different if you remove your mental process of “I’m looking at a girl” and know how the sex hormones tend to affect the face
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:31 PM
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You don’t think it is possible to both desire sex and be voluntarily celibate? If so, then how do people voluntarily diet and not eat junk food they desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:24 PM
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Assuming symmetrical distributions for looks, height, and wealth (3 things you mention first paragraph) Then the chance of being above average, given random chance, is 1/2 for each of the 3 traits The chance of being above average in all 3 is 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 or 1/8 or 12.5% Given modern education, I wouldn’t be surprised if many women think that the average man in fact does have a 1 in 8 rarity Would explain quite a bit, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:15 PM
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Here’s how many women count it to determine what they tell their BF First, they count all ex boyfriends and men so significant in their life that you will hear about or see them Then, like someone lying on a resume, they look at the year coverage of these guys and in any large opening they count a minimum number of short term partners, flings, ONS, FWB, etc This is the minimum credible number that you might believe All situations like casual sex on vacation with a guy she never saw again are str…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:57 PM
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It’s pretty easy to put men and women on a somewhat equivalent scale Mentally focus on the woman’s face and ignore her hot bod and sexy clothes…..her boobs and showing them will cause men to give her facial points due to boner logic Now, mentally remove her sexy hair and makeup You’re basically envisioning a head shot of her with her hair pulled back and no makeup Now, kind of masculinize the face in your head….basically ask yourself “if she was male but with otherwise similar genetics…what woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:38 PM
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I’ve watched him on YouTube, but you’ve inspired me to buy a book of his Which would you recommend I read first?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:31 AM
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Thanks, no offense taken I don’t always show it, especially here, but I have my own path It’s partly blindly staring into the scientific explanation of things until finally (with a bit of probability theory) meaning has popped out for me clearly The other part is plucking the decent bits from good philosophy, psychology, some Buddhism, but more stoicism At one time, I read quite a bit of Zen literature I have to sometimes remind myself of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:23 AM
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I’d say this is a limited reading of history It wasn’t all sultans with harems and warlords Our ape relatives have some female choice And human females have selection instincts that cross cultures and would not evolve unless used Regardless of whether it is forced or by modern women choosing to be in the soft harem of a rich hot guy, in the past the average guy not having a family caused fewer males to fully invest in society The laws against polygamy and marriage being encouraged was a way to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:21 AM
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I’m an atheist, but realize that moderate religion helps people I wish I could believe, but it is impossible for me I made a deal with myself long ago to try to only believe what is most likely given the best observations and reason.. even if it hurts…this is stuck and is who I am and can’t be undone The people with the happiest lives on average were raised religious, never questioned it, married a fellow Christian at a relatively young age (before 25), and had kids and live a life focused on fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:08 AM
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I am not making a naturalistic fallacy I do not think our natural urges are necessarily good In fact, I think the proper use of our minds is to transcend these urges where possible and prudent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:01 AM
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BS from a dark and selective reading of history It wasn’t all harems and warlords If females had no choice, then why do almost all women have evolved sexual preference that are similar across cultures? If they never chose, then they would not have instinct choice heuristics Look at even other apes, the female bonobos choose mates
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:59 AM
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And the opposite, the moralistic fallacy, as well Sometimes in the same argument, used interchangeably to the desired end
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:55 AM
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Civilization formed partly in spite of our biological urges In the past, the sexual marketplace was more similar to how it is now, as folks more did what they wanted This didn’t lead to a stable society where many men were invested due to them having a family and children Modern “progressive” movements are reversing this and taking us back to a more primitive mindset while saying it is progress The dummies realized that people in modern society couldn’t just follow their base emotions, they thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:15 AM
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You’re fine if you have hobbies, friends/family and social outlets, a rich internal life, and pets However, there are definite downsides depending upon where you live I live in a small town in a rural state As a single guy, if I ask a male to hang out or grab a beer, then he is likely to think I’m gay asking him out on a date, you’re unlikely to be invited anywhere by couples because the female won’t have your GF to talk with, a lot of people will think you are odd just because you don’t priorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:16 PM
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This is true at the individual level At the aggregate, it’s obvious why marriage and the nuclear family were focused on, because it makes for more stable and stronger societies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:46 PM
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It’s also ok for women to own and use sex toys (in part because it signals male inadequacy and it is assumed she could go get real sex but doesn’t want to) Men do not casually mention that they have a small collection of fleshlights
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:39 PM
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Things will have to get so bad that even the purposefully obtuse take notice Of course, they will misattribute the reasons But it will be a start The US overall will likely decline in most ways prior to a turnaround It’s the whole Strong people make good times Good times make weak people Weak people make hard times Hard times make strong people Rinse and repeat
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:38 PM
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Imagine how much more advanced we’d be if human attraction was all mental and zero physical Einstein would have been one of the hottest men on Earth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:22 AM
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People downplay how much sexual attraction gets people through rough patches in a relationship It’s a lot harder to be mad at someone you want to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:15 AM
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Yep After a woman goes after guys out of her league and gets used, then when a guy in her looks league doesn’t want that…he’s the bad guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:03 AM
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So many women going after men out of their league is ruining dating for everyone It’s because of digital dating which gives a woman in a small town the ability to hit up every hot guy within 100 miles, men which in the past she would never meet It’s causing women all sorts of issues and they are sharing these men, whether they know it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:57 AM
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Is this a set up to show women that the inherent attractions of men are not wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:39 AM
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It’s in part because men were around when these wild women were doing their thing Even if they didn’t participate, they know the girl that let a frat run a train on her was a mess and mentally ill They don’t want to be tricked into marrying that type later in life in part because marrying someone capable of horrible decisions is not wise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:33 AM
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I think men don’t like that women lie A lot of women would or have let a very attractive man they don’t know well and aren’t dating use them for sex But women act like that isn’t true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:15 AM
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Hence why you see 5 women treating 5 men like trash on the regular The 5 women remember that time a drunk hot guy banged them, so they are sure they are settling and take it out on their hubby
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:13 AM
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That’s in part because the best women are selected first The remnant women are more desperate but the negative traits that caused them to be passed over remain A guy in his 40s can have as many overweight, half crazy single moms as he’d like This then makes us similar to a woman in her 20s that has men after her but most aren’t attractive to her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:12 AM
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Yep Sperm is cheap and abundant, so nature invented testosterone so men would want to spread this resource The desire gap and much of society simply follows
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:09 AM
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Live a healthy and social life and keep your eyes opened for a good match but leave when you know they are not and don’t overinvest quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:44 AM
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Regarding the men they truly desire, I agree they don’t have that much…hence why they think guys are a-holes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:40 AM
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Are those women happy and not thinking they settled? I feel most women think they can do better and this fuels some poor treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:22 AM
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Super hot guys do not take a woman’s sexual past into account when deciding upon a long term relationship? This place is laughably absurd But it goes with modern culture where people just cozy into a digital echo chamber of their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:01 AM
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I think many men don’t like that promiscuity is now encouraged in young women Also it is lied about Even here, folks say only 1% of men care about a woman’s sexual past at all (like she could’ve gotten gangbanged by the football team every weekend and they don’t care)…and that is laughably absurd Sure dudes in skinny jeans sipping Starbucks in San Fran might not care, but there are tons of guys that do but they don’t talk about it A super liberal feminist is surprised that given the crowd she is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:59 AM
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That’s fine But do women know they are passing by their looks match to be a part of a guys soft harem? Do women realize just because a top guy banged them that it doesn’t mean they are on his level and that a similar guy will date them? Do women realize that when they talk about men they are ignoring most men? I think what bugs people is that men are expected to be realists but women are not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:51 AM
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I live in one of the fat states Any woman that has discernible hips and breasts ( not just a few of many bumps) acts like a hot commodity This lowers the bar for all women Any fit woman feels like a model
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:48 AM
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The only reasons I would get married is to have kids or I met an amazing woman and she will leave if I don’t marry ( and she is vetted and I trust her… basically top 0.1%)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:45 AM
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Social proof for a man is in part a way for a woman to think you are not a psycho If you are an average or above sized man, then you appear scary to a woman because of the size difference Like imagine a 6’ 5” tall, jacked stranger walks into a bar alone, a lot of men would be intimidated If you know people and appear friendly and those people respond nicely to you, then women think you aren’t a threat to them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:01 PM
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That’s says a lot about them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:52 PM
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Yep Not obese, at least somewhat cute in the face, not crazy and treats you with respect and loyalty, able to hold a decent conversation, has their life somewhat in order, and likes you and enjoys sex with you I think this is roughly the average guys criteria You get into trouble when you allow super meeting one or a few criteria overpower other concerns The classic is the hot crazy girl that a guy puts up with But he is violating one criterion to get a surplus in another
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:34 PM
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The ugly truth is humans are evolved from much lesser animals and we hold a lot of traits that are not as useful now We are super tribal and break into categories easily, people even do it with their brand of phone or truck This type of research goes against the narrative and so you will not see it fully explored except when it makes straight, white men look bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:25 PM
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It is more that higher status guys are less likely to openly talk shit It’s a bad look Ever hang with an older guy that has real money and floats in those circles? If someone starts talking smack about their mother in law or something, they are way more likely to nicely nip it in the bud and move the conversation to something more pleasant. However, this doesn’t mean that they don’t think certain things or use certain things as a guide….without saying it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:23 PM
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Yep Weird that feminists don’t think volcels exist because women are the greatest thing in the Universe for a straight guy Women tend to call volcels “gay” after they hit on the volcel When someone can get women but doesn’t then it fries some wires, especially in smaller towns
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:20 PM
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Buddy, you are a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:43 PM
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Are you calling me an underling? If so, you have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:37 PM
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Actually, I have no trouble attracting women. I’m 47 and exercise everyday and am 6 feet tall with a STEM career.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:28 PM
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It would be better if women owned it They heavily prefer traditionally attractive and masculine men (even among bohemian hippies the hottest hippie chick is with the guy with a chiseled jaw, abs, but with dreadlocks too) They will settle though They take into account some other traits, especially money, and that makes them think they have a more well rounded view They are not opposed to casual sex with an attractive male and don’t make these guys try or wait It’s fine, just don’t lie about it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:01 PM
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True that a shirt skinny guy acting tough towards larger men will soon have that behavior modified
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:58 PM
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It won’t help Top % is top % even if the distribution shifts to the right Chads will get surgery to be giga Chads Women also judge men that do things to help their shortcomings Compare push-up bras for women vs short guys that wear shoe lifts Women also judge you by your lowest point because they think that low point is what you will pass on to children, what you gain through hard work is ironically less impressive than what you were born with For example, a guy is now pretty jacked His GF sees …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:55 PM
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This is exactly why women are better at not getting caught when they cheat An average woman can cheat at her leisure and under ideal conditions Let’s say she goes out of town for work once per month Each time, she can get dressed up, go to the hotel bar, and pick up a man An average guy to cheat regularly is more likely to need to work at it and seize any opportunity, this makes him more likely to get caught My dad knew a woman that lived in the country, and this was before cell phones My dads a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:50 PM
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It’s because men are better able to run “emotional brain” and “logical brain” in parallel, note the inputs of each and where it coming from, and then act accordingly The modern idea that getting in touch with and focusing on emotions is enlightenment is laughable because your emotions are largely your animal instincts made manifest for you to act upon and the most primitive part of yourself….a dog going for what he wants is running on emotion (do the instinctive then feel good after)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:29 PM
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That’s the great gift of internet anonymity A bunch of guys piecing it together And women hate it It only confirms most of what I saw as a kid, had brainwashed out of me, and now see as true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:23 PM
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You stating that you’d want a co worker or underling (nice word choice…) to be subservient to you is a big tell In contrast, as a guy, I don’t like it when even my janitor at work acts like that and I build them up and deflect their negativity towards themselves An intelligent, good man has a super power that almost no woman understands…the power to almost always act outside the petty aspects of our personality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:14 PM
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It doesn’t have to be “every woman” to be a significant enough fraction to discuss Also, there are no accurate infidelity stats because the researchers are “social scientists” that don’t know what they are doing People lie, especially women, lie about this sort of thing even if it is promised to be anonymous If these social scientists had half a brain, they’d do something like ask people “To your knowledge, has your closest friend cheated?“ And not ask for this personal name, etc They are more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:58 PM
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Let’s stack up the mental achievements of both genders, shall we?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:53 PM
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This is demonstrates in caricature a real thing But it is ugly, so the opposition will nitpick details instead of addressing your actual point I was at a bar once with 2 couples and a single woman One of the bartenders was around 25, over 6 foot, model face, and so jacked he probably used PEDs….he was one of those guys that even a straight dude is like “damn WTF?” All the women were glancing at him continually and were commenting about him It was awkward AF I said to myself “if any of these wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:45 PM
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This is the halo effect Unattractive men are whipping boys that can do no right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:08 PM
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Women usually aren’t used to being around men they find physically attractive immediately (due to how rare those guys are), and women often have trouble handling it Men are the other hand are around women they would sleep with all the time, so most of us develop means to just act normally and get on with life These 10/10 men can have a lot of women, if they put in at least a small effort which is often not needed, which includes married women that would swear on a stack of bibles they’d never ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:53 PM
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Good luck I could take on several guys in skinny jeans at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:56 PM
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It’s just the MO of modern, young super lefties Ganging up on people, cancelling people, because they just know they are correct It’s a mental sickness
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:55 PM
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Said every petty despot ever as they went along with “the ends justify the means” until they became what they started out loathing I’m going to suggest that you are a young, confused Marxist that doesn’t know crap about crap
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:47 PM
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As a guy, you can usually pretty easily get women that are 2 or more points below you on a 10 point scale The women will think you are equivalent though I’m probably a 6 or 7 in the face but somewhat tall and fit with other strong traits (good job, funny, etc) I have had multiple sub 5 women obsessed with me and throw themselves at me So, I can have all the sex and companionship I’d like from fat women with mental health issues….lucky me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:18 PM
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Older women and even TV and movies used to send young women a message of caution towards the playboy that sweeps them off their feet only to drop them on their butt Nowadays, a young woman that is a 5 being courted by a male 9 (he only wants sex) would probably be encouraged that she is a queen and that’s probably her forever king
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:46 PM
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The one dimensional political line that people try to enforce…..you’re either left or right…is dumb and caused human stupidity and tribalism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:36 PM
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It happens both ways but how fair you are and how much you stick to logic should not depend upon whether or not you agree with someone or are on the same general political team For instance, once I am detected as likely male independent/not leftist, then I feel a super feminist liberal woman is likely to use any underhanded trick to appear to win a debate (like tangential gotcha questions) If she was talking to a supposed ally, then she would behave and try to address the strongest debate points…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:29 PM
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I had an ex that did this I figured she was afraid someone would tell me about her cheating or past indiscretions or she went through men so fast that she didn’t want others to notice (especially because she dated several men multiple times over the years)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:24 PM
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Hyperfocusing on too narrow a set of traits during vetting is an issue, especially if kindness and sanity isn’t at the top of the list For example, some guy is just too into smart brunettes with shoulder length curly hair When he runs across one of those that likes him back, he’ll be too enamored over those few (nonessential traits) that he might settle for a raging narcissist or something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:44 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:43 AM
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I was making an STD joke
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:40 AM
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You can still go to wholesome places and look for women It doesn’t need to be church Join a sports league with women in If you want to find a decent woman, then go where decent women are more likely to hang out Even a card game group is more wholesome than a bar or wild party Work is off limits now, at least in career jobs It used to be common for folks to meet at work but the wokesters ruined that because some times it is bad and they don’t like bad things and so they need to control it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:40 AM
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And you don’t think impregnating (aka no protection) a modem empowered woman isn’t risky?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:34 AM
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Yep Also, asking and making a big deal out of it is exactly how you won’t figure out the truth You’ll likely never get an accurate number So, you just relax, ask innocent questions, seem nonjudgmental, and then wait for her stories and behavior to indicate Likely promiscuous Or Likely not Women think men are very simplistic, despite us, you know, inventing almost everything (including the tampon I believe lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:02 PM
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When women say they want a romantic man Do they primarily mean that they want a man turned on by romance or a man that does romantic gestures?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:41 PM
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I had a slightly obese, divorced mom that is 5 years older than me aggressively pursue me at work (same building, different employer, so horrible conflict) I soft rejected her Her response? She called me gay in the parking garage and never apologized If she didn’t already look pathetic, then that cinched it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:37 PM
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We are all a product of our surroundings Are you going off of what men you interact with are willing to say out loud with women present? This is likely not a fair representation of what men actually think and feel. I know all sorts of guys that don’t want a promiscuous woman but end up dating one because they settle for what they can easily acquire given their attractiveness level
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:43 PM
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Men are more romantic than women Men do romantic gestures Women claim to be romantic because they like romantic things being done for them, as if it an interesting trait to enjoy people buying you gifts, taking you places, and giving you attention
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:17 PM
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There’s no reason to get married unless you want kids Otherwise it’s like having a roommate you sleep with that can also ruin your life on a whim
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:16 PM
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You have a pretty flexible definition for “deriding” To deride is to ridicule If you think my brief post reply was ridicule for an entire gender, then that’s super interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:14 PM
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Those are not the easiest jobs, but very far from the hardest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:45 PM
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Similar here If walking behind or towards a woman, I’ll sometimes modify my path so they aren’t threatened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:43 PM
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Women love being approached by hot men And then when men stop approaching they miss being approached by anyone I wear a chest holster when hunting in bear country Random hikers I meet are sketched out and keep looking at my chest, it’s weird but now I know how women with nice breasts must feel
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:39 PM
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All traits a distance second to looks, money, and status and just icing on the cake Like women claiming “I like smart guys” She would likely not be attracted to an ugly guy that has a 160 IQ She is especially attracted to hot men that also are smart…..but she would sleep with a hot dumb guy before she would an ugly smart guy They also bend the definition of attracted….there is attraction for sex and attraction for a relationship Men generally find being attractive only for a relationship but not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:37 PM
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Yeah What’s the stopping criteria? It’s basically blaming even your own emotions on the outside world and having no accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:16 PM
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Women and most of society judge a man in terms of what he contributes to women and children and his ability to attract women We are judge in relation to what women find important, which I guess is unsurprising
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:01 PM
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Or just super thirsty for attention
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:59 PM
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They love attention from hot guys They enjoy and tolerate attention from guys that aren’t creepy or ugly They hate and are offended by the attention of ugly or creepy guys It’s pretty straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:56 PM
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Yeah I stopped reading when he incorrectly drew the conclusion that CLT would cause rare folks (really ugly or really hot) to assortatively mate. Two really hot people pairing is a rare event from a random process. If the CLT affected the outside world in this way (which it doesn’t it just describes part of it), then you could make a case for bizarre things happening in general. I then went to the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:52 PM
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I see men in their early 40s now virtue signaling by saying things like “Men my age attracted to 25 year old women are disgusting” It’s so dumb and an obvious lie
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:38 PM
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This is false Most men do secretly care if their partner has an “oh yikes” number You folks can keep repeating “men don’t care” all you want, but men with options, self respect, and mental health do care and most will not marry a woman with a huge body count You are going off of the polite lies men tell so as to appear politically correct
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:35 PM
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I get that But that average also includes women that got married out of high school I take into account other factors For instance, a 40 year old with a 10 count is different than a 19 year old with the same number
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:53 PM
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Most guys in the US just don’t want it to cross an obvious threshold For instance, a woman in her 30s sleeping with 20 guys is above average but won’t send most guys into OMG mode as it might match their number But the same woman with a body count she doesn’t m ow but estimates as “over 50” or “probably around 100” will be a red flag for most If the guy rejects a gal over this, then he might give a different reason like “30 minutes drive between us is too much”…..which might lead women to think …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:35 PM
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It also might coincide with modern women seeming to be increasingly promiscuous or promiscuous-acting (flirts with everyone, dresses very provocatively etc) In the past, do you think a churchy guy in the 1950s would feel compelled to ask a churchy gal “so have you engaged any group sex or Onlyfans?”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:27 PM
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A woman that is a master penis-smith is a turn off and their tricks can come off as formulaic and mechanical. If she is too “good” (gives porn star sex) then you kind of can guess at her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:17 PM
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So you pick the existence of counter examples to disprove a statistical generalization My question wasn’t “is it possible for a woman to fool a man” It’s more like this “Coffee can be good for you in small amounts due to antioxidants” “What about people that can’t tolerate caffeine, shit lord?” You are too ideologically driven to be fair You know my point, but answering fairly means you lose
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:03 PM
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To answer your question I knew roughly how things were for different frequencies and intensities (this is across several partners….I’m in my 40:s) If we were on vacation and going at it like bunnies then that is one situation If we hasn’t seen each other in a week then that was another So, the way you are approaching this is you trying to frame it in a way where you win and not a way in which we get closer to the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:10 AM
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You are still doing it and don’t even know better
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:36 PM
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I put “normal” in quotes for a reason If you are having sex 3 times a week, let’s say Then you know roughly what each time tends to feel like So “normal” isn’t the most precise term And that’s exactly why you tried to play “gotcha” with it Most people have been trained debate like how the horrible people do it on TV, which is not to address the strongest version of an argument and general intent of it Rather, you try to pick at a single thread and then point gleefully at the small fraying of an …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:05 PM
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Whoosh right over your head Again Are you a woman? If so, how would you know how a vagina feels around a penis and how quickly it returns to “normal”? If you’re a woman, then you are proving my point. You’re such a vagina expert that you even know how a vagina feels around a penis. I can tell you that I’d have sex with your GF after not for 3 days then it feels different than if you have sex at 5 pm after also having sex at 2 pm on the same day. Again, the discounting of men and male experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:16 PM
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Vermont and NM were obviously pulled out of thin air for illustrative purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:12 PM
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You’re framing it differently and I wasn’t clear I made it sound like a one off and you need the exact cause for one different time I’ll ask you another question that gets to my point Assume a man that is at least average in intelligence. He has been with his partner for years and had sec with her several times in a day or in a row or has gone days or weeks without and so he knows the range of feelings. He knows how the texture, wetness, and fit tends to be. Could his partner start having sex of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:16 PM
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You think a guy discussing sex here is bragging? That’s at least half the point of this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 11:33 PM
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It was random, just something that bothers me But it is true If any guy makes a comment regarding this, some rad fem will be along to shame the man and say he is wrong I’ve read this spouted probably 20 times minimum, in articles and also random comments
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 11:33 PM
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And also after vigorous sex, I’m sure I’m talking about once you are pretty aware of your partner’s body
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 11:31 PM
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Yeah, both things are possible I’ve seen both One of the most promiscuous women I’ve met is very tall and strong (6 foot, has beat up several men) I always thought she probably had really high testosterone for a woman When single, she hits on men for sex like a pervy guy and owns it proudly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:21 PM
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Feminists try to tell men how vaginas feel around penises It is the craziest thing They write that there is no way a guy can tell if a woman is cheating by the feel Excuse me? Have you had a penis? Have you experienced the sensations a man feels inside a woman? Every guy knows if you sleep with your GF 3 times in one day after being apart a few days that the second and third time feels different than the first (unless your penis is too small to stretch the muscles at all) If you GF suddenly feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:15 PM
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Women are also way more likely to be okay with acting dumb or incompetent to get their way or get out of something or get out of work As a guy, the only way I’d act like purposefully would be if it was a matter of life and death OR serious money was involved (like convince a stranger you are disabled and win $10,000)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:08 PM
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Add “for me” to the end of that sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:59 PM
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It’s not your problem if the woman is not capable I had 2 GFs like that due to trauma It sucks Otherwise, I want to make then orgasm and get a lot out of it Many men love making a woman orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:53 PM
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The automatic yea category is partly why most men do not trust promiscuous women If your GF has slept with 50 or more men, then if an automatic yes type guy is at her work then he can probably get her to cheat if he decides he wants that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:51 PM
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Yep A woman goes to the mall She might only see one “hot guy” in the whole mall Guys will be attracted enough to look at 25 to 50% of the women there Men love women in a way that rad female don’t understand and that’s sad as it is turned against us Men die protecting women they don’t even know Women will run and might call the cops if you are lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:49 PM
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This is 100% true. Attraction is not self-reflective, but settling is. If you take a woman that is ideal weight and make her gain 1 pound a week for 2 years, she doesn’t magically hit a threshold where her brain changes and she suddenly really digs fat guys. The reason women aren’t attracted to average men is that they don’t have to be. An average woman can easily sleep with a guy that looks like a model but happens to be bored or especially horny. Many plain janes then think they deserve a mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:45 PM
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Because modern liberals feel that it is okay to lie if it achieves a goal which they consider good (the noble lie). In this case, it pushes “the narrative”, affirms lesbianism, and shits on straight men (win, win, win). I understand liberals very well having been one until 2020 when I dropped all political party affiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:39 PM
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You can’t understand why a horny person wouldn’t have sex…..you can’t imagine any more complex reasoning Well, then you don’t have the ability to understand what I would write to you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:14 PM
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I dated a girl with social anxiety (seemed almost very mild autism) and was very artistic and was 22 (I was around 27) I was her second and I believe it She wanted sex at least once a day and was highly orgasmic We’ve lost touch and it’s been years, but I guarantee she hasn’t slept with over 20 guys by now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:04 PM
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I’d have no issue with what you’re describing regarding yourself What I don’t want is the girl that has had trains ram by bouncers after last call or just slept with men as a contact sport with happy ending In other words, no one that couldn’t remember their partners if given all day and a pen and paper
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:01 PM
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Actually, the women with the highest notch count often don’t enjoy sex as much and have trouble orgasming This is because trauma or some mental issue is causing them to have a lot is sex alongside sexual dysfunction A woman that consider sex intimate and chooses you to focus on can have a high sex drive and low notch count I’ve had both
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:37 PM
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And women that fall on penises on the way to yoga class all the time are more likely to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:35 PM
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Because you have competing other values and you aren’t making decisions in a vacuum It’s amazing how hard it can be for women to understand men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:34 PM
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What men seek is something independent of sex drive. You act like high sex drive automatically means more sex. It doesn’t or almost all men would be promiscuous or want to be. I want a woman that considers sex something important and intimate and something she wants to do within a relationship. And something she has some self-control around. We all know that if our GF is hot that other guys will try to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:33 PM
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True Height helps and is fetishized by some women But when women say “I like tall men” or “I like smart guys in glasses” they often mean “I like hot men that are tall” etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:28 PM
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Good deal The larger conversation often suffers heavily from what I pointed out “Well men say A and then turn around and say B” And they are actually talking about 2 subgroups of men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:01 PM
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I won’t date a woman that smells or has dirty clothes or body….it’s a primal disease indicator I would date a woman that happened to make a bad hair style or makeup or clothing choice…I would not date that weird girl that wants everything about her to scream 1980s (or something similar) because basing your identity on thing like that is weird to me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:48 PM
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Height is just an elimination factor for some women, few women will date a tall guy that they don’t find attractive for other reasons also
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:45 PM
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I don’t care I’m just describing what I see I thought that’s what we did here I didn’t think this was a “care space” or something
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:41 PM
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Ok I’ll try again I don’t judge a person with a penis IN THE CONTEXT OF DATING PROSPECT because I don’t date people with penises because I’m a straight male And your use of problematic is just classic
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:40 PM
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I am a straight male I’m probably a 6 in the face But I’m 6 foot, 185 lbs with abs while being in my 40s, which is probably top few percent around here But I have male friends that are probably an 8 in the face Women tell them they are cute, hot etc openly in public sometimes (I’ve seen it) Women will also target them sometimes and take them home for casual sex That never happens to me So, if some women aren’t telling you straight to your face that you are hot, then you aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:00 PM
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Yep Women are a lot like us men Women also often like novelty/newness and variety Every guy has experienced a woman that tore their clothes off the first few month until they got used to you/got their hooks in…,,then they are way less interested in sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:56 PM
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The body positivity movement has morbidly obese women getting butt hurt when men that hit gym 5 days a week won’t date them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:54 PM
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And also expressing toxic femininity at the same time They have the crazy woman thing going on already Then they make the mistake in thinking what they value in a man is the same thing a man will value in a woman The hair dye hurts their brains
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:50 PM
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Beware the woman that moved to your town for no good reason, they are often wanting to go somewhere without rumors about them There are obvious exceptions like for school or a better job But the RN from Vermont that moves alone to be an RN in New Mexico (and isn’t like super into aridness or the art there or something)…..might want to be wary
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:44 PM
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I’ve had 2 women accuse me of being gay because I wouldn’t date them after they made it clear that they were interested I can’t imagine calling a woman a lesbian because she wasn’t into me Middle aged women often think men their age are still like the horny guys from their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:41 PM
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“I don’t want to date someone like that” Is not devaluing someone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:33 PM
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Your issue is “we” It makes no sense to talk about a large, diverse group with outputs from many as if it was a single entity But if we narrowed down to where hypocrisy can happen (within the same person or entity making various decisions), then this debate goes away or has to be reframed And that’s not fun
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:32 PM
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It isn’t a double standard if there are two different things Men and women are different For instance, trusting your child around a house cat but not a tiger is not a feline double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:30 PM
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I already detailed earlier a main flaw in reasoning that seems to perpetuate this debate But you gave me an opportunity to talk about the second Assume: I’m a straight male I am looking for a GF I met a woman and judge her body count too high for me to date I met a guy with the same body count I don’t want to date him because I am straight So I don’t judge him unfit for me to date because I don’t date men How is this problematic or hypocritical? Would it make things better if I forced myself to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:22 PM
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