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Ok genuis, who pays for the state. 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:38 AM
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In most civilized societies, we try not to let babies and children starve. I don't currently live in one of those, but I know they exist. Financial abortion will never be made legal because the state has a vested interest in NOT being financially responsible for children for whom they can otherwise identify an obligor. Rich men allowed civil rights and women's rights because it was good for capitalism. More workers means lower pay. There is no incentive for capitalism to allow sperm donors to ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:21 AM
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Women don't tolerate poor relationships the way that men do. Lesbian relationships have twice as many women in it. Lesbians getting divorced the most not only tracks, it actually proves that women aren't leaving marriages just so they can "rake their husbands over the coals in divorce court" since lesbians are doing it a fuck ton and there's no husband to "take advantage of" in this way. As a side note, this whole thing about men initiating divorce way less being portrayed as more loyal, honorab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:20 AM
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Who "enforces" this culture? The whole idea of status involves social power. Men who have more social power, use it to be promiscuous. Men who have less social power, would therefore be unable to impose any sort of, "seriously guys, can we just like, chill" dampening of male promiscuity. From highly conservative religious cultures to more egalitarian ones, there seems to be one thing in common, if a guy can use his status to get laid, he will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:55 PM
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Attraction is complex, layered, nuanced, and fluid. Niceness is one part of it, but genuine kindness and compassion is extremely easy to fake/perform in the beginning of a courtship. So a man who is not nice is going to eventually be discovered as such, and will get kicked to the curb. I think when women are doing this "all I want is a nice guy, ugh" thing it's because they are repeatedly finding guys who seemed nice, they were attracted to him because that was part of the package, only to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:38 PM
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You'd be surprised. I have a particular flavor of audhd that turns pedantry like this into charm with the right audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:27 PM
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The vampires might have clued you in on this. Narrator: they, in fact, did not 😂 Drives me crazy when people point to fantasy as if it provides insight into that person's genuine interest. Kink doesn't even really do that either. The whole point is the highly regulated nature of the situation. Take survival training as a more "masculine" fantasy example. Learning the crafts and skills related to survival is fun and interesting for a lot of people. But as we've seen in naked and afraid over and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:25 PM
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A stopped clock is right twice per day. A broken clock that is too fast or too slow is only right when it's error has lost or accumulated 12 total hours. Depending on the rate of the error, that's like once a year. Not the point, I just have a petty dislike of confusing idioms lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:15 PM
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What's a "prime"? Prime what? Intelligence? Health and vitality? Youth? Earning potential? Strength? Hotness? Libido? As someone with a wife of 17 years and 6 sisters, none of those happen at the same time, nor at the same age for each woman. Seems like an oversimplification so that insecure low IQ men can more easily digest a complex topic. The redpill seems to do this a lot actually. It's a bad look.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:14 PM
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What does empathy have to do with any of this? I guess you can exchange pity with sympathy in OPs argument, but it doesn't change it. Empathy isn't even really possible in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:40 AM
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Is this comment trying claim that 2 parent insulated nuclear families also can include extended families sharing in the duties? Dude what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:07 PM
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Does anyone take your Ferengi-coded shit seriously in person or do you only reveal your lobes like this online?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:58 PM
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Wait I'm confused. By your logic why would the women who are choosing to not settle for mid dudes and dying alone with cats give a fuck about the country turning into the taliban? The girls who will have to grow up in that world and be subject to it's bullshit are the daughters of the dudes who are settled for, right? Why would the men who do end up getting families advocate for that? Your beef isn't with women who will die alone, it's with the fathers of the girls who will get sold to you and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:56 AM
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I have 1 child, most of my peers have 0. My wife and I tried to adopt but it was extremely difficult and expensive so had a bio kid but we didn't care to originally. Most grown ups with bills and existential awareness don't give a flying fuck about "bloodlines", even the ones that want to be parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:51 AM
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Women keep saying this but single men keep saying they're lying. It's a bizarre dissonance I can't totally put my finger on. The only thing I can come up with is that a huge percetage of men who think they are kind and well socialized are just... not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:55 PM
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I thought men don't hit a wall
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:51 PM
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The only way anyone can know your thoughts is if you act on them. Speaking them aloud or writing them down is acting. If thoughts stay thoughts, they remain untouchable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:50 PM
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Dude what. This is so backwards and fucked up I don't even know where to start. Fooling around with people just so they don't feel rejected is worse than rejecting them. Like way worse. That's a very bad thing to normalize. I don't know what else to say. Learn how to be open and honest with people. Shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:26 AM
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Yes I know. If you were a man and your man friend confessed his feelings for you what would you say? You don't find him sexually attractive, your female friend doesn't find you sexually attractive, it's the same thing. It isn't personal, it's sexual attraction. Sexual attraction isn't logical. And yes, women see men they don't find sexually attractive the same way men see men they don't find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:15 AM
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So if you got really close to a guy and he told you something he never told anyone and then a few months later told you he wanted to kiss you and take your friendship to the next level you would basically say, "after you let me close and told me all your secrets I am now the person who knows the most about you and I think you are an undesirable human being." Or would you be fucking normal about it and say, "thanks bro but I don't feel that way about you".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:07 AM
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This is how I've seen it go almost every time a socially challenged dude falls for his chick friend. It's practically a script. In contrast, the not-socially challenged dudes say something EARLY ON. Something similar to what you mentioned. If it isn't reciprocated he just doesn't hang out with her one on one for a while so the vibe can reset. That's literally it. Sidebar. I'm in a fairly large mixed gender niche-interest group and it has happened a bunch. There are various genders and sexualitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:53 PM
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Finesse is an excellent way to put it. Brute forcing sexual connection just isn't going to be appealing to a vast majority of women. I also wanted to mention that I really like how you describe "creepiness" as primarily a shorthand way of describing someone who is socially uncalibrated. So many dudes think that the "creep" label is just universally given to men who fall below a certain attractiveness threshold. Which is... demonstrably not the case. People who touch grass enough to be in mixed g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:35 PM
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Literally all it takes. You'd think we were asking these people to bathe in fire ants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:09 PM
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This is such a good comment. I've been sexually attracted to women for 24+ years that I can remember, and it was pretty obvious by like the first 3 that women's sexual attractions and receptivity is anything but straightforward. Just simply learning how to "feel things out" solves well over 95% of all potential misreads and misfires. I have never met a single woman who cares if you passively find her attractive and keep it entirely to yourself. Zero. It just doesn't happen. Men en masse seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:31 PM
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Write them a love letter with ink and parchment like a goddamned victorian gentleman of course. God I swear romance is fully dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:09 PM
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It’s the same. Just because YOU can't see the difference between passive observation and active leering, doesn't mean there isn't one. Women's safety depends on them learning to see that difference, and it is learned at a very young age. If you go to prison you will learn the difference very fast as it will now be relevant to your own safety. Until then, you have to practice empathy. Assuming your experience is universal is a sign of stark immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:07 PM
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Linking the comment and context would be a pretty conclusive way of proving this tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:42 PM
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Temporarily embarrassed millionaires worrying about problems they will never have is a gottdamned American pastime at this point don't you dare try to take that away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:56 PM
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That was way too many facts for a feelings-driven canoe. He might need a ELI3 version.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:54 PM
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This is often referred to as the greater male variability hypothesis. It's a hypothesis for a reason but it's not unreasonable given the inherent fragility in having a set of unmatched chromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:01 PM
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Wait. Isn't the OP LITERALLY this fallacy?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:49 PM
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When I was growing up it was common knowledge that life isn't fair, awful traits are often rewarded, and no good deed goes unpunished. As Capt Picard put it, It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life. The value in doing good isn't for a reward, or so that people will like you. The value in doing good is for it's own sake but also so that you can live with yourself. The happiest people aren't people with a lot of rewards or status, those folks just …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:47 PM
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Yeeeaaaah... of course guys "playing nice" aren't getting results from it. It's obvious to pretty much everyone that it's not who they are it's just a strategy. Niceness with the expectation of return is, well, not nice. And yeah, if you're disappointed that being nice doesn't work, you had an expectation! It's a catch-22 for sure. Advice to "be nice" can't work because nice people are already being nice and not-nice people faking it will be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:05 PM
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Unfortunately, many guys see being not-desperate as something only Chads are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:58 PM
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You seem a bit obsessed with the "fair and balanced" aspect of this whole thing in a way I'm not sure I understand. Gift giving is just one small aspect of a relationship and not everyone likes to show or receive love that way. I'm a very particular person, I prefer to just buy myself what I wants, or gifts I can customize, like gift cards lol. My wife loves thoughtful gifts vs making a specific list but that backfires sometimes when she doesn't care for what I picked out. We don't "do" gifts fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:39 PM
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You can't thoroughly vet a liar unless you pay for a background check or hire a private investigator. You should tell her what you wrote here, somehow, though I suspect she will figure it out soon enough. On another note, you don't need your dad to plan holidays you know. Reach out to your extended family to see what's up and see if you and bro can attend any events. Perhaps someone on your mom's side of the family? Staying in contact with relatives over the years is not automatic or effortless.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:32 PM
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a man with two kids under 18 at home OP and their brother are minors
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:26 PM
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Eh... the logification of dating isn't the core problem in my opinion. The problem is the decision trees are somewhat incompatible between genders. A man's tree has a few main milestones that all paths pass through. 'Getting the date' is the first big one and all branches lead to it. A lot of guys develop this part of the tree heavily. After that, there is some minimal development and basically all branches feed to 'getting the sex'. There are two looping paths from there. One that circles back …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:47 PM
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It's interesting that you phrase this as if your wife has 0 agency and nothing new to offer you from here on out. Like a prized show horse that you pamper in retirement because of it's prestige. Fwiw I am also happily married and have been with my wife since my 22nd birthday but if I described her in this way I would feel like a fucking asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:38 PM
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Bingo. This is also why "financial abortion" will never be permitted. You can't sign away rights to a child you have been deemed responsible for without having someone else there to take over and adopt the child, no chance in hell the state will let you do it to a fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:03 AM
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I am asking how can you be collared, spanked, used, etc, and then later on, go to a rally to support your fellow women? Fantasy is often used as an outlet to deal with trauma. Like trauma of being oppressed. A submissive woman is still consenting to this position. That ability to consent, or not, is absolutely empowering and is not at all at odds with feminist or anti-patriarchal ideologies. In fact, it is likely caused by them. This comes across as a creepy fetish post my dude. The psychology o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:54 AM
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This is the body talking, I am just following it. you just feel then and act accordingly. I literally subscribed to this sub for self-reports like this, holy hell man! 😂 Give a crumb of introspection a try, you might like it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:49 AM
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If the women he's referring to proudly self-identify as sluts, he is not being derogatory or shaming. Please direct your bunched pantaloons at some of the actual dangerous misogyny in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:07 PM
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I don’t think it’s that other dudes didn’t work on themselves. They did, you just didn’t see it. The “effortless” look usually takes effort. Are you neurodivergent by chance? The "masking feeling like lying" thing feels very similar to the struggle I had finding a version of myself that communicated the best sides of me without it feeling entirely like a performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:37 PM
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In this case misogyny is the result, not the root cause. The cause is learned helplessness though I'm not entirely sure what caused that, though I have theories. One is that as infant mortality decreased and families became smaller, parental investment and attention per child increased dramatically. This lead to "extended adolescences" for pretty much all young adults. Due to the difference in puberty and the maturation process of boys and girls, this affected each gender very differently. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:45 PM
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Work under the table then. Lot of fruit picking farms in CA need laborers right about now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:28 PM
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Dammit, now I gotta flip the sign again. It has been *ZERO** days since someone improperly referenced the Just World Fallacy in PPD.*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:24 PM
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If you think you get nothing out of it then just... don't? This ain't a slave state bruh just live on the street if you'd prefer to be a bum. As for me? I work and contribute to society because homie needs a shelter near amenities and a frozen burrito every now and then. I ain't gettin either of those from a cabin the wilderness. This is a weird ass illogical post unless it's rage bait. Have you been checked for psychopathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:22 PM
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That's absolutely fair. We also replicate what we know. It is very wise for you to recognize that the life you see others around you living in real time is probably very representative of what you would encounter yourself. Not because that outcome in particular is universal, but because it is so prevalent in your own microcosm of experience. I had and have a much different experience of relationships. My parents divorced but kept the kids the top priority and then remarried people way better sui…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:16 PM
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Yeah the "comparison is the thief of joy" angle isn't often diacussed around here and it probably should be. A lot of desperately single people despairing about connections that other people have that they don't? They think they would just be SO happy and content if they could have just that one little thing. The virgin just wants sex ONCE and he could turn shit around. If just one FEMALE would give him a chance, he could prove himself a worthy partner. The thing is, that is entirely NOT how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:21 PM
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Thank you for explaining. It reminded me of something I realized a bit ago, how crucial family is to combating loneliness. My best friends in the entire world are my 3 siblings. The people I love the most and spend time with are my wife and son. I have a few close friends but a few months ago I didn't and I was not lonely. Before I met my wife I spent a lot of time with my siblings and cousins and was not lonely. I miss my nephews so much and I wish I lived close enough to help them grow up. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:50 AM
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Can you expand on this? What do you think the difference is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:25 AM
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do you think some women mistakenly assume it or hold men to that standard, and that’s why they get extra offended when approached by certain guys? Possibly? If a woman is specifically put off by an approach I would guess that 99% of the time it's because the setting or attitude is highly inappropriate. One thing inexperienced guys seem to miss is that when they are nervous to talk to a woman and highly sensitive to any rejection she may give, she has learned the smell of it. She has been sociali…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 01:19 AM
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swiped through tens of thousands of people Well first of all that's proof you aren't using them healthily. There could be 10,000 different reasons you haven't gotten a date from an app. Where you live is a HUGE factor on it's own and no one ever even brings that up! Where else are we supposed to gauge our value and see what works? Talk to people! What do your friends say? Siblings, cousins, coworkers? Ask PEOPLE. (And yeah, if you don't have people to ask, that's a very big clue why you aren't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:35 AM
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I agree that women's meter is better tuned than men's, but I disagree about why it is. Women are bombarded with objectifying attention from the first day their nipples stick out farther than their belly buttons, sure, but that isn't really a helpful type of attention. Being wanted as an object to use isn't "attraction" so much as it's "predation". A lot of girls get mentally scarred from this. Hot girls have more experience with predation AND genuine interest, but how do they eventually learn ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:31 PM
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The ratio alone makes it one of the worst environments to measure a man's attractiveness, charisma, or suitability as a mate and/or partner. Tbh I think the "I want a quick answer now even if it's bad, as opposed to a more accurate answer that I have to get dressed to get" is a huge part of this entire problem. Apps are awesome if you treat them as the low effort - low stakes - low reward slot machines that they are. They are absolute dog shit for gauging your romantic appeal more generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:40 PM
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This is a surprising self-own, props to you for admitting it. That said, this fundamentally misses the part where women talk to each other about their sex life, research online, read fantasy novels, etc. The idea that you can be a woman's David Bowie and she will never get any exposure whatsoever to any other music is sort of naive. Personally, I'm glad my wife had a lot of disappointment before me lol. I'm the best she's ever had and it isn't even close. I am far more secure in that than I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:59 PM
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100% based. Pill vs Pill is just another trick the haves use against the don't-haves. Social media algorithms are an intentional concerted effort by tech ceo billionaires to keep people in their angry little echo chambers. Why? Yes, it's profitable, sure. But also: IT KEEPS THE TARGET OFF OF THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:51 PM
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I've been happily married and poly for 16 years. I sort of assumed that my experience being in a long term, happy, healthy, successful relationship, combined with my experience dating consistently online and off for the past 2 decades, would be valuable. It is decidedly not valuable. That said, I stick around because my son is a tween and I need to see examples of what he could become so I can try to switch the trolly track before it kills him, or before he kills 5 others. Metaphorically speakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:19 PM
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No one is talking about the lockjaw to alt-right pipeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:14 PM
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Perhaps. My wife is a nurse and gets sexually harassed on the daily. She looks good for her age, which is 40, but she's not young looking by any means. Still, 70% of her male patients make some sort of inappropriate comment at some point and only 10% or so can blame it on why they're there. It's just an utter dick deluge and not a single dude in earshot ever says shit about it. Men reigning in their thirst for the good of everyone probably needs to start with other men calling out that shit. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:50 PM
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Men having more control over their libido and more selectivity in partners would benefit literally everyone. I don't think this take is as hot as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:40 PM
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Social validation from other men improves their status. Take a sociology 100 class or something dude I dunno what to tell ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:34 PM
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This is just blatantly incorrect. Attractive partners are a source of social validation for men and always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:50 PM
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Co-signed. It isn't much more complicated than this. The problem is, how do you authentically show the world that you have all of those qualities? How can it be that every single person in this thread considers themselves a good man or woman but in the same breath say that good men and women are rare? Seems like the disconnect is happening because no one can actually prove that they are good, and they are not seeing others prove it. We have lost the ability to easily demonstrate our own innate g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:00 PM
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Or the way women make themselves cum. That's literally the answer to this thread lol. If men consistently made women cum better than what women can do for themselves, I'm not sure it would reverse the loneliness epidemic, but it would make a dent for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:04 PM
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keeping women safe is one of the core traits of masculinity. When has this ever been true? Men keep their women safe. Their wives and daughters. Sometimes sisters and mothers. Men have not kept women collectively safe since their tribe included only the sort of women I described. Masculinity has never been about protecting all women. Only the women men own or love. And to be fair, the ownership usurps the love in many cases. The most dangerous person in a woman or girl's life is a man living in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:31 PM
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You're trying to teach a college class to a middle schooler. Admirable, but I think you're wasting your time. In any case, I appreciated the effort! (I'm a gifted high schooler in this metaphor lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:11 PM
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Isn't hope expressly prohibited in their worldview? I think it's in the manifesto or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:47 PM
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Maybe you gotta weird shaped dome? Not everyone looks good with a buzz. I highly doubt women dislike it because it's "utilitarian" 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:38 PM
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Hahahaha the internet sure loves to take anecdotes like this and then apply them so absurdly broadly that it worries people into a little tizzy. You've known this woman for years and yet you didn't date her? Why? Because she's a toxic maniac maybe? And yet you take her weirdly judgy word about skincare? The fuck?! My dude. Get a fucking spine. My skincare routine is the same as my wife's and like 20 other people of every fucking gender that I know personally: use a dedicated face wash in the sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:36 PM
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Agreed. I forgot to slap an /s on that one. That was my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:59 PM
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😂 On my first reading I thought... famous bisexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:33 PM
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When success is not possible, dominance will suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:31 PM
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Lol! I'll take that into consideration oh wise one. You're a funny one OP. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:54 PM
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“I want a masculine man to put me in my feminine energy” or any variation it’s a crimson red flag That's gonna be a black flag and a puke bucket for me champ lol. My throat lurched just from reading it!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:35 PM
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Huh? I never claimed they don't exist. And even if they didn't, women would do that anyway. One of my points was that women have probably been doing that since the dawn of humanity and will continue doing it! There are even multiple evo-psych theories about the origins of gossip and how it evolved in female spaces to root out and expose dangerous males in the group. This isn't new my dude. It likely isn't even exclusive to homo sapiens!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:32 PM
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Yeah. Exactly. Which is why it is a universal red flag for most people at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:11 PM
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The best leader is not who commands, but who delegates I'd actually shift this a bit to say the best leaders don't command or delegate as much as they demonstrate. The best leaders lead by example. To lead literally means "to go first". Men who want to lead in a relationship need to first become someone worth following. Woman who want to follow should look for men already on the adventure she wants to go on. Women trying to encourage men to take her on some grand adventure that he himself is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:09 PM
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At this point the whole "men leading" concept is just thinly veiled code for trad dynamics. Women who claim to want a man to lead her just means she wants the man to pay all the bills, usually in exchange for her performing all the domestic labor. Men who say they want to lead their woman just means he wants her to perform all the domestic labor, usually in exchange for paying all the bills. The disconnect happens when one or the other is unwilling to fully perform their part of the equation, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:56 PM
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This is what I would assume. Most women have been creeped on by a man. This isn't because most men are creeps, it's because the small portion of men who are creeps, are just really fucking prolific at creepin! This is such an obvious thing to me that I get really confused by men who claim to be not-creeps getting offended at creep backlash and anti-creep measures. That kind of baseless paranoia is either sign of an anxiety disorder, or a creep who wants to keep on creepin'. I've met way too many…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:41 PM
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It's a song. Cleaning Out My Closet by Eminem. It's fucking amazing. First CD I ever bought on my own and that's the best track on it by a very slim margin. There are like 5 of my top 20 rap tracks on that one CD. Sidenote: i was on a road trip with my family when I bought it at a gas station. I had to buy the "clean" version. I was under 18 so I was literally not allowed to buy the uncensored version. It was still filthy as FUCK! It was trivially easy to determine what word was changed or muted…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:51 PM
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Yeah I'm sort of confused by all the pearl clutching going on here. Why would I care if women I date talk to each other about me? That doesn't really stress me out at all. If they spread lies... ok? What percentage of women will even hear it? And those women who believe such lies without any substance are not people I want to be wasting my time on anyway so isn't it a moot point? It's not like my job will find out I ghosted a woman for acting insane and then fire me. Bitch please. Back in the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:27 PM
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If you follow your logic it has an interesting presumption about women's behavior. They will fuck guys they don't care about/don't see commitment with immediately, and withhold sex from the men they want to build a relationship with. By your own explanation, a woman engaging in both of these behaviors in back to back prospects is not only not contradictory, it's more sensible. How do you think it would go for her if she tells a guy she fucked the last guy on the first date because he was a hot i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:39 PM
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Getting distracted by a turn of phrase is relatable as fuck. It also ignores the very available way to obtain milk ethically in both cases, buy it by the fucking jug. The only 2 options in this metaphor being free milk (charity? stolen?) or livestock ownership tells me that we are either very far removed from the origins of the metaphor, or I don't understand the metaphor; likely both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:35 PM
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Just educating people to learn what's best to their interests, both men and women. This is, pardon my bluntness, vague as fuck. Do you think there's a concerted effort to not do this or something? I have a kid in middle school. I have yet to meet a parent that isn't emphasizing kindness, inclusion, openness, etc. You know why? I live in a moderately progressive area. In a lot of regions this sort of parenting is seen as soyboy weak baby shit. Also, consider this. When I was growing up, the peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:22 PM
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but almost no one is giving the chance for young people to get any experience. Ok so there should be dating internships? I'm wondering how that would work. Women giving men they aren't attracted to a chance to prove themselves as partners sounds... murky. Would they be assigned these men? Would they be expected to sleep with them? What would they get in return? Would men en masse be ok with knowing they weren't actually chosen because of interest but because of obligation? This is a fascinating …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:32 PM
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The marriage contract includes a lot of built-in legal protections for parents. It includes requirements too. Outside a civil marriage, it is trivially easy to force a co-parent to perform the requirements, but it is damn near impossible to force a co-parent to honor the protections.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:24 PM
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Having children outside of marriage is usually a dumb idead for both parties, but otherwise you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:29 PM
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Take a shot every time someone tells on themselves entirely unprompted like this. Imagine he tells a woman on a date he's a very clean person because he only cleans once a month and his place is still "pristine." I'm a blurty mcblurtyson AuDHD doofus and at this point I'm convinced that I've never struggled with women simply because I learned how to keep some shit to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:26 PM
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This doesn’t refute the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:17 PM
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I'm going to sound like a grumpy porch grandpa but holy shit is anyone learning anything at school anymore? Sexual selection is eugenics? What the actual fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:14 PM
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Just think harder bruh. Like telling a depressed person to smile more. Education systems are failing our children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:35 AM
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These people have been thoroughly bought and sold by dating apps my dude. Dating = swiping. Period. End of story. It's really damn sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:55 PM
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Dude what? If you fail at one you fap into your boxers at the end of the night. If you fail at the other you fap into a cardboard box because that's where you fucking live. Gmafb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:48 PM
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If that's what you need to tell yourself, go off king. It is not, however, what the research says.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:50 PM
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Yeah that is some wild ratchet behavior holy shit. To generalize that kinda stuff to the wider population is giving him away tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:04 PM
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Yeah this is reminding me of why I became an atheist. The hypocrisy of the Christians I grew up with bugged me way more than the dogma, supernatural crap, myths, etc; more than the beliefs themselves. I would put myself into the mind of someone who believes, but would still run into ridiculous whataboutisms, fallacies, egregious exceptions, and so on. So even if I try to have conversations playing by their rules, shit doesn't make sense!! Similarly, I have a lot of disagreements with the entire …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:30 AM
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I love this comment dude you are so right about so many things. Latin culture and machismo get a lot of things wrong, and frankly a bit dangerous, about dating; but it permits men to experience and express genuine deep emotional love, obsession and pain over women and romance. This vulnerability encourages passion and connection! Hyper independent and overly stoic variations of masculinity end up with zero access to this depth. It staight up cuts men off from the soft lover side so many great wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:16 AM
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Asking a woman to be with you until death is so absurd. Is someone forcing you to get married or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:16 AM
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Prove. It. Some? Sure, fine. Many/most? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:10 AM
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Not this guy admitting he wants to fuck psychological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:09 AM
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Fish photos say, "this is my personality: it is limp and dead. Like this fish." Sport fishing? Cool. Fish photos in dating apps? Nopers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:08 PM
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Yeah I think it's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma. It only takes a few men being out of control with desperation to convey to all other men that they have to behave similarly indiscriminate in order to even be considered. Plenty of men rightly recognize how badly that behavior acts as a spoil in the long run, but they can't take this up with these "simps" because while they themselves aren't simps for women, they are still simps for other men lol. Or afraid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:04 PM
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someone who approaches relationships like a ruthless business wit cost-benefit analysis. First time in this sub or...? Seriously, this sentiment is overwhelmingly asserted here, primarily by men. I'm confused by this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:10 AM
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This will definitely lead to a happy and fulfilled life, keep on keeping on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:15 AM
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How would anyone know?! Thought crime isn't a thing yet my dude. Stop defending people who can't keep their erections to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:11 AM
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"indirect consequences of my actions aren't real" What are the actions you are referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:07 AM
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One: who gets to decide the morals? And what are they? Ok Jordan Peterson lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:46 PM
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There is plenty of evidence that shows that men who don't start families or have partners are likely to be substance abusers. Correlation ≠ causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:50 PM
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It's projection, plain and simple. When everything you do and think is filtered through a lens of mistrust and victimization, you see the behaviors of others as having the same origin, even when it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:18 PM
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According to whom? The men being called that? Who are they typically insulted by in that way, other men? In the real world of offline, busy grownups no one gives a fuck about that. I'm nearly 40, I met a 43 year old virgin at a board game event 2 weeks ago. It was mentioned casually in context (because of the game we were playin) and not a single person gave him shit for it. My wife's friend from work is a pretty chaotic old lesbian with a worse adhd filter than me and asked he felt about it. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:51 PM
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Uhhhh. Do you know what neet stands for?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:40 PM
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There are girls that you’re so attracted to you can’t help but ‘orbit’ them as people would say on here That's a pretty high bar to set for women you'd be willing to show romantic attention to. Anything less than that feels like settling, or like an insult to the woman? Bro. If I only spent time on people I feel uncontrollable levels of draw to I'd be very lonely. Most of my closest friends aren't people I immediately wanted to get to know. Most of my relationships were with people I was interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:22 PM
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Thinking that men can only have morals if they are acting on the promise of love and sex, or on the responsibilities of upholding a family, says way more about you than it does society. One of the most influential myths in human history is about a man being the most moral and virtuous man possible, and nowhere in the many versions of that story did he have a wife or children; nor did he seek them. Speaking of which, you a pastor's kid or something? Reckless hedonism being seen as the "only obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:54 PM
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Dude what? Every single person I know IRL who has expressed interest in MGTOW or 4B felt the way they did BECAUSE OF dating. All but one of them had been married. Two of them have really awesome friendships with their exes (not each other lol) and coparent really well. This shit isn't a "you don't fire me because I quit" type of thing. In my experience the people that feel connected to these ideas aren't even bitter at the opposite sex! They're bitter at society in general telling them that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:19 PM
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What annoys me is people think you can self improve your way into someone's life. Huh? Who says this? I think there's a misunderstanding about what self-improvement actually is. I have never seen improvement touted as guaranteeing a specific outcome. The idea is that it changes you, your own experience of life, how you see yourself, and what doors might become open as a result. The expectation that effort will always lead to a return isn’t built into that concept dude. You added that. Or, more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:43 PM
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I met my wife through a mutual friend. We were just living our lives, not trying to meet people romantically, and encountered each other. This is how people are supposed to meet, and it's how most love match relationships have happened over the course of our species. Dating advice is always going to be a bit paradoxical. Yes there are certain things that can help you improve your odds, but as soon as you are doing something with the specific purpose of romantic success, you are actually changing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:24 PM
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It isn't a bad term, necessarily. It's just frustratingly reductive. My core issue is thst it tends to be used by people who completely dismiss the subjectivity of physical attraction, and how the intensity of a connection can enhance or diminish how attractive someone appears to you. It gets treated as a gold standard of value comparison when it should be a footnote at best. It throws out pretty much all of the social science on compatibility, mating behavior, and pair bonding in favor of a com…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:53 PM
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Yeah the ugly thing is tricky. If someone is ugly, they know it, and it typically affects one or more of those other bullet points. Like your friend. The ugly stigma becomes an impedance in developing socially, emotionally, confidence, etc. Not just because of self-esteem, the world just makes it harder for ugly people to make any sort of progress. I'd argue the effect is worse for women (though the advantages are also higher for attractive women), but men are affected too. Very very rarely does…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:41 AM
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Psh. Wikipedia is owned by the wokies! I miss the days when people used normal words to describe people's brains like smart and ret... Ugh. Can't even finish it. Think emotional intelligence is a buzzword, lol. What a boomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:28 AM
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Username checks out I guess 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 01:36 AM
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Lol the height requirement alone makes me believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:29 PM
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Even still, I was curious how unusual this person would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:09 PM
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Lol I asked ChadGPT how likely you are to find this person and it pulled no punches. This guy may call them “preferences,” but he’s outlining a very specific—and statistically rare—set of traits. Let’s break it down one by one and see how rare this hypothetical woman really is, particularly in the U.S. or similar Western populations: 💁‍♀️ Demographic + Physical Traits Tall (5'9–5'11) Less than 5% of adult women in the U.S. are 5'9 or taller. Most women are 5'4 or below. Rarity: ~5% White Roughly…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:04 PM
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Yes. This also frames sex as exclusively something men are actively doing to women who allow them to do it. It reinforces a lot of fucked up shit including but not limited to the idea that men can't be raped by women. Many incels seem to see sex as a systemic framework that they are being unfairly denied access to. Like a women declining to let him fuck her because he is ugly is akin to a business not hiring someone because they are black.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:22 PM
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My wife can get off way quicker by herself even if I'm doing the exact same thing because she has literal real-time feedback in her brain. She can make microadjustments to location and pressure immediately without even really thinking about it. Are you saying jacking yourself off and a woman jacking you off feels the exact same? Bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:44 PM
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Not to people who don't want them. Horrific take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:28 PM
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everyone will get ghosted eventually If my wife dies before me that is the ultimate ghosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:02 PM
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Hey Google, translate this English into... English that makes sense...? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:58 PM
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I have never interpreted the fact most men are not attractive to most women to mean that they find them ugly, gross, repulsive, etc. Unattractive is a neutral state. It's like if I try to figure out if my mom or sister is attractive. Like, not to me, but generically... maybe? They aren't on my sexual radar because they're my family. That seems to be how most women see most unacquainted men. Just... not on their sexual radar. Because they don't know if he's safe or not. I feel like this gets misi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:37 PM
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Do you genuinely think that unattractive = ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:27 PM
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Same. Peak masculinity tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:20 PM
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Thank you for your honesty and vulnerability in sharing all of that. No cap. I can tell you’re doing hard work to make sense of what happened, and I truly wish you healing and peace on your path forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:06 AM
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If victims can be aroused during their assaults then certainly the perpetrator can be too. This is called arousal nonconcordance. The perpetrator is aroused because of the assualt, the victim is aroused because of biology (likely a survival mechanism). You have a really concerning take on sexual predation and assualt. I hope you don't take this interpretation of your experience and project it on to women because for the 12 years I worked wigh victims I have never heard a woman describe her assau…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:29 PM
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This reeks of desperation man. People who actually succeed in getting what they want don't have to work this hard to convice others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:06 PM
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Sigh. Worrying about your comparative attractiveness to other people of the same sex is healthy and normal, when it's at a healthy and normal amount. Men who obsess about their dick size compared to other men have had their Intrasexual Competition anxiety turned up to 11. Because of porn. Female pleasure is not linearly correlated to phallus size. Period. It is ONE thing that goes into a very complicated sexual compatibility matrix, and as you noted, it is weighted differently depending on the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:18 PM
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My son is only in school 27 hours per week. 6 hours per day for 4 days, and a half day on Wednesday or Friday depending on the district. And it's only 180 days per year on average in my country. The days off are constant and the summer is long. Kids only sleep like 9 or 10 hours per day. So kids are at school 6 hours but home and awake like 8 or 9. A full time primary parent is still "working" a minimum of 8 hour per day assuming the working parent is entirely unavailable. (My wife and I both wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:55 PM
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Most people see long term partnership as a companionship, which is a form of friendship. Most people want friendship to be A PART of their relationship. Not the entire purpose, but a fundamental aspect. All of your replies give the impression that you think actually liking your partner and wanting to spend time with them is not only a waste of time, but a flawed premise in the first place. I won't comment on the ethical validity of this as I don't really give a fuck, but I just wanted to point t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:35 PM
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What do you have against tattoos?! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:23 PM
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That was an example. Women get the "ick" over all kinds of shit, large and small.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:32 PM
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Look. I own a gun but I am under no delusions that I am always safer by having one. The statistics are not unclear on this. They are crystal fucking clear. I am more at risk from my own gun than anyone else's. Period. It is more likely to be used to harm me that to protect me. Likewise, women and children are at greatest risk from the man INSIDE their home than they could ever be from any outside threats. The man in the home is more likely to harm them than protect them. Obviously this isn't a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:47 PM
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Ehh, not necessarily. My brother is 35 and wants kids. He is noticing that many of the single childless women who are 30ish and not batshit crazy are childless by passive choice. Women who actively want children are typically partnered before 30. Therefore, a lot of the women who are 30 and single, stable and grounded, and actually WANT children, are those who already have them. Most have "got married too young, wanted a family, etc" kinda story. If a man doesn't want kids of his own than exclud…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:16 PM
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Do people not realize that "fluster" is just fucking ANXIETY lol. Like, that isn't a choice and it isn't pleasant unless you are excitedly anticipating where something is going. I know tons of married people who hate when they find coworkers physically appealing because it can cause an unwanted fluster response and fuck up their work environment for a person they don't actually want at all in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:48 PM
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Yeah if I see a woman as hot as my wife I don't feel intrigued or "attracted" in a sense that I want to pursue her. It's like damn ok, way to be blessed in the, well, fucking everything department, but that's enough. To me it's like seeing a really gorgeous and expensive car. I want to look at it, maybe talk to it so I can bask in it's majesty for a few minutes, but then I get back in my trusty 10 year old Honda and drive home. I do not, under any circumstances, want to drive the supercar; let a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:42 PM
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You would confront someone and want them to apologize for getting flustered at a situation and then choosing to disengage? Nervousness and anxiety aren't physiological responses that you can control, you can only control your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:33 PM
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I was making a joke how rp and pua say that asking a woman what women want is like asking a fish how to catch fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:59 PM
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You don't ask a horse how to lead itself to fish... or however that nonsense goes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:55 PM
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Who is defining and weighting these "percentiles"? A man who THINKS he's 50th percentile overall may have such a shitty take on something that despite being "average on paper", he's actually a 20th percentile man in attractiveness to women. This is the entire point of this post that you seemed to miss. If someone's standards are their supposed equal, but they aren't matching anyone in that class, THAT ISN'T THEIR EQUAL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:52 PM
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If this were true, women would be chronically single and complaining about it. (Tbf, this is absolutely happening in some circles.) The standards are only too high if the person who has them is disappointed by their outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:49 PM
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Blink twice if the shmazi is in the room with us lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:46 PM
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It's such a common trope that we got like 2 full decades of sitcoms about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:58 PM
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I think it's only unrealistic if you can't find a match in your chosen range, are bitter about it, and you expect the cohort you are attempting to attract to be the ones to change their standards (so that it includes you) rather than adjusting your own. Anyone with high standards who is content with waiting as long as they need to find a partner doesn't have unrealistic standards, they just have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:57 PM
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I literally had to explain to multiple men the other day that effort is inherently mandatory in relationships. Yeah I basically got called a chump sucker beta cuck because I said I like to do small things for my wife to make her day better and I don't worry about reciprocation because it's not the point of marriage for me. The assumption/assertion that I am in a marriage that is inherently unfair to me on purpose was so bizzare. It's a ludicrous idea and not at all the purpose of my comment but …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:03 AM
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And touch grass isn't literal ya dunce lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:00 PM
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When you say men are punished for not having social skills what do you mean? Punished by who, in what way? If a woman just isn’t interested in someone who hasn’t done that work, isn't that just a preference shaped by her own development? Saying no thank you to a risk hardly seems like a punishment. Punishments are typically active harm, like mocking and ridicule. The biggest complaint socially challenged guys seem to have is that they're invisible to women. How can women simultaneously be mockin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:38 AM
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Uhhhhh yeah. I'm not actually trying to win some zero-sum contest with my wife. I'm trying to live with her. In a way where we both feel supported and not quietly drowning. I'm a spastic neurodivergent golden retriever dude. Fun but chaotic. I know I'm no picnic for normies to live with, but living with normies makes my days make sense. I aim to carry at least 80% of my "fair share" because I know I’ll inevitably miss things. But that's the thing dude, so will she. And the whole reason it works …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:27 PM
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Two problems with this - some of the most anal retentive partners I know are men. That doesn't really contradict what I said. I only meant that with so many women on hormonal birth control, the potential collective tightening of disgust tolerances seems like it could be pretty significant. Plus, anal retentive men aren't always this way due to lower disgust tolerances, but because of higher anxieties about maintaining control and authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:36 PM
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Nah dude fuck this whole "woe is me I don't understand empathy" attitude. I know my standards are looser than my wife’s. I didn’t need to be told, I just paid attention. And I VERY QUICKLY realized it’s not enough to say, “Well, it doesn’t bother ME" and then go about my business. That’s just a way to justify opting out of shared responsibility and look like an incompetent idiot to her. Looser/lower standards aren’t inherently worse, but I know I can’t use mine to justify skipping out on certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:22 PM
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I agree with that. Personally I think it's really dirt fucking simple and comes down to progesterone creating a lower tolerance for disgust. Women just care about shit that men don't care about, because of hormones. That's it. My wife used to start fights with me occasionally about clutter and executive function crap. It always seemed super unreasonable to me and she would admit later she didn't fully know why she got so incensed and, for lack of a better term, triggered about it. Since she came…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:01 PM
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Yeah pretty much. Economic scarcity whether it's real, imagined, or in-between, doesn't necessarily make women more or less likely to want children than men. I just think for women there is a primal understanding that pregnancy is one of the most vulnerable and dangerous things that can happen to her, and it is way more likely to happen to her if she's partnered. Birth control is too recent an invention to impact primal concerns like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:49 PM
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Not much disagreement from here on most of that. That last bit sounds a lot like the paradox of choice rearing it's ugly head which I can definitely see happening in some spheres of society right now, not just dating. There's also something to be said for scarcity mindset. For women with increased social anxiety about further dwindling resources, the presence of a mate is almost always going to make her living situation worse. I'm sure there is something primal about making sure one stays unimpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:19 PM
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I have an umbrella theory about why modern mating is falling apart that is essentially what you just descrbed. Genetic anthropology studies show that, depending on the era, 25-50% of the male humans in a group did not produce offspring. Patriarchal systems that forced monogamous pair bonding onto women are a relatively recent thing, evolutionarily speaking. Before we became so agrarian, we didn't need such conventions. I think we are returning to some of our more hunter gatherer adjacent mating …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:47 AM
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I'm a little confused by your argument. If men don’t develop social skills because society doesn’t value them, but then also that men are punished for not having those skills, does society value the skills or not? Can you clarify how that’s not a self-correcting feedback loop? To me it seem that if the pain of social failure is real, that itself would be a signal that the skill is valued, and therefore would be something men would start developing. Perhaps this is how it works for women in schoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:53 AM
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You didn't explain how something being born out of misogyny automatically means it is still rooted in misogyny. There are a lot of marriage traditions that were sexist as fuck but are just performative rituals now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:53 PM
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Lol no. In fact, fuck no. If you think anyone is, or should be, loved unconditionally, you are a CHILD. And no, not even children should be loved unconditionally. Ever seen Intervention? Parents loving children unconditionally is how addictions get enabled. Grow the fuck up. As an aside, I will always feel love for my child, no matter what happens. But love is not first and foremost a feeling, it is a verb. I will absolutely choose to no longer BE loving towards my child if he turns out to be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:37 PM
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The tone of this comment is defensive but you weren't the person being talked about so I'm curious why you are responding defensively.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:42 PM
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Pulling the titty trump card is wild 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:54 PM
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The latest openai model was nerfed to save energy and it shows in posts like this. The circular nonsense sure is... circling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:00 PM
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Holy no true scotsman batman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:57 PM
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Are people lying about their body when they wear clothes? This is such a basement take bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:47 PM
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I would argue this is more the fault of dwindling media literacy. And, well, literacy in general. Most rom coms and disney stories are fantastical in nature and are meant to be telling a really old story of morality or human nature using these allegorical frameworks. From what I can tell, they aren't EVER meant to be taken literally. Anyone who watches The Little Mermaid and thinks it's about some dorky girl who likes to sing being able to get with a Prince because she kept her mouth shut for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:55 PM
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Fathers can legally obtain a DNA test from their child without consulting the child's mother unless they live in France. If you are married to her, presumptive paternity is putting your name on the birth papers anyway, so you have time to do this. Unmarried partners don't have to sign the affidavit of paternity at birth unless they want to. This is literally a fight no one has to have unless they're a useless dumbass who doesn't know how to google how to get a DNA test done and thinks their mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:33 AM
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This assumes all taken people are out of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:59 PM
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Actually wait. In one of the replies calling out this stupidity, this person honed in on how the reply was focused on the mammal/animal nonsense and not the "actual argument". That's the reply I got as well. This may not be a true belief but It's a weird diversion tactic this person uses to distract from other unfounded claims so those don't have to be defended.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:22 PM
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This is some christofascist adjacent anti-intellectual nonsense. We're not animals anymore but we're mammals? Dude. Mammals are a subcategory of animal. My degree program included a lot of biology. You're just confidently incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:19 PM
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Who took care of your son before he turned 5? Is he homeschooled by you now? My wife makes way more money than me so I am the primary parent and have been since my son's birth. Parenting from 0-5 and parenting after 5 are two completely different ballgames my dude. If you are judging the job of a stay at home parent based primarily on your experience of being the primary parent of a 5 year old, it explains why your post is so out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:46 PM
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Once again, a man blames women for a problem that only exists because of the behavior of other men. If some woman I'm dating expects a bunch of bullshit I don't want to do, I opt out of dating her. If her, and women like her, don't feel any pressure to stop expecting that bullshit because they have plenty of suitors who will put up with it, why the fuck would any grudge I develop be against the women?? Men who accept crumbs are the problem my dude. Take it up with them. If women's standards were…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:06 AM
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According to this subreddit, lesbians are all domestic abusing divorcers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:27 AM
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I've been with my wife for 17 years so your sass is sorta wasted on me. The thing is, we have both had periods of "providing" in various ways. Never once has either of us been THEE provider. Ever. When one of us is holding the money bag, the other has the parenting one. When one of us is carrying the team emotionally, it's because the other one is dealing with a lot of stress, trauma, family drama, whatever. There's a lot of shit to manage when you build a life and a family with someone. Assigni…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:32 PM
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when a guy doesn't manipulate, or cheat, or take advantage of others, etc to access sex, then they are a good guy. When women say the bar is in hell, this is what they mean. Way to prove it my man 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:00 PM
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No sweat dude, welcome in. Glad to add someone with their head on somewhat straight to this chaos lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:33 PM
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This is just a self-report that you are bad at setting boundaries in friendships. Stop being friends with people who don't reciprocate. This is elementary level socialization here people. The only reason you would give more than you get is if you're hoping to get more later, in which case, you ain't a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:27 PM
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This is sad to me. I would characterize a lot of the relationships I have with my wife's friends and family members of both genders as friendships. Many of the ones in her family are not close enough to be MY family, so yeah, they're just friends. (Like, her sister, sure. That's my sister-in-law. That's basically my family, but her cousins and stuff? No? No one think of a cousin-in-law as their family.) Same with people from her work that I've gotten to know over the years. They're my buds, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:24 PM
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I think it was sarcasm. Your ridiculously reasonable take was just below some unhinged comments by sad boy fuckzone dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:17 PM
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That question should give anyone the ick, it's entirely transactional and self-interested. If more people asked themselves why should anyone want to be with them, we'd have less problems. Which leads me to the next ick in your post. All of it. Your view of men as a monolith of natural born whatever the fuck is ignorant and immature. Studying gendered socialization, group behaviors, influences of genetics and hormones, tracking trends and patterns of everything from violence to success in school,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:13 PM
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They can use many antidotes of women Anecdotes. Though I would LOVE if there were antidotes for the sting of approaching someone and it going poorly!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:08 PM
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I have a theory that "laziness" doesn’t actually exist as a standalone trait. What we label as laziness is almost always a symptom of something else: dysregulation in motivation or reward systems, unresolved trauma, burnout, depression, misaligned incentives, or even mal/adaptive strategies like rest or energy conservation. Sometimes it's a form of learned helplessness or weaponized incompetence, but it's never just a matter of, “I should do the thing, but I simply don’t feel like it.” That fram…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:04 PM
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I mean, most women have to assume any given man wants her literally dead, and he has the strength to do it, so fair's fair I guess 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:24 PM
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We didn't mean that the olds should have having the kids, ewwwie!! 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:20 PM
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Where are you at on your anatomy and endocrinology qualifications? Let's start with a ballpark: Have you, err, seen a female human before. In person?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:57 AM
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The difference between I live with parents because I am too lazy to bother or too broke to move out vs I live with my parents by choice because of cultural reasons or I take care of their health or something is really fucking significant. My wife is a SEA immigrant and it's always some kind of drama when one of the young adults in her family moves out of the family house before getting engaged. Even though no one has followed that rule for like 18 years. Just something for the oldies to gossip a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:52 AM
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Omg. "I didn't feel like trying any harder to get my ween wet" is your answer?! Grind culture is largely bullcrap. You DON'T always get out what you put in in every area of life. I will grant that any day of the week. But if your complaint is "I knowingly settled for crap sex with ugly women because I was too lazy to put forth the effort required to attract someone better" there's going to be minimal sympathy available for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:50 PM
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Maybe everyone would be better off finding partners they're actually attracted to. Or like, going to fucking therapy 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:43 PM
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Is there a "you'll be sorry" fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:47 PM
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And? Average dudes, getting laid. Count the bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:22 PM
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I have had the displeasure of interacting with this kind of "every accusation is a confession" person plenty. One of them, up until recently, was my wife's best friend. She had to terminate the friendship with this guy because he refused to take accountability for his behavior but then started going on unhinged rants about everyone being out to get him and stuff. It reminded me of a different, but digustingly familiar, flavor of my grandma's reactons to pushback I gave her about her voting choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:34 PM
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Yeah. This post is basically "women are targets everywhere, news at 11". Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:15 PM
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This comment appears to be arguing to go back to the beating and repression thing... Maybe not what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:46 AM
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Twice as many men under 30 are single as women. Dude, this isn't the fault of women, how could it be? THIS IS THE FAULT OF MEN OVER 30. Think about it. Actually use your brain. How can so many women in that demographic be partnered, but so many men be single? Polygyny and polyamory is actually fairly low in practice, and lgbtq folks are typically taking the same number of both genders out of play here. So what's the answer? Younger women are partnered to older men. That's it. Not hoeflation, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:52 PM
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Hitting on people while they're on the clock in a service job isn't the move my dude, pretty skeevy. Some establishments consider it harassment, even if it is the first time and even if you're polite about it. I dispatched for my university police back in college. One store in particular trespassed 7 dudes in one semester for approaching employees while they were working. The store manager was groped on the job so I guess she was done being polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:28 PM
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Not when it isn't working.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:17 PM
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I always wonder this about prosperity gospel people too. There's a Chuck Palanhnuk called Survivor that muses on this subject a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:22 PM
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And the weird thing is that they keep winning politically and they’re still just as mad Because they're getting what they think they want, but not what they need, so their lives aren't actually improving. These types think that having a wife that serves and obeys him will solve all his problems. And for many guys, sure, her desire doesn’t matter. The problem is that a lot, perhaps even the majority, of men want a wife that actually likes him as a person while she does both of those things. But a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:14 PM
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I thought the "befriend women" thing was just to demystify and depedestalize them. Guys who have never had a conversation with a woman can build it up so much in their heads. Having genuine friendships with women takes the untouchable shine off of them. My reading of your post is that it is actually very successful at doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:59 PM
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How dare you say that about my 84 year old grandmother's lord and savior, Mr Worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:33 AM
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I have been attracted to my women friends and specifically not taken our friendship in a sexual direction because I felt the risk to the friendship wouldn't be worth it. I didn't then lose my attraction to them or anything, it just didn't factor. I will say that is a thing that got easier to do as I got older. When you're 19 and getting propositioned by a hot acquaintance has really great pal potential but choosing to say fuck it I wanna play and then things go predictably chaotic... yeah haha. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:54 AM
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I'm from a family of tall people and many of the women are taller than their husbands and it's never really been a thing. 3 out of 4 of my dad's sisters are taller than their husbands. I have 2 mormon aunts who went on missions to Hungary and brought back shorter Hungarian husbands. They are 5'11" and 6'0", their husbands are 5'7ish, and they each have a tall son. One is 6'3" and the other is 6'6". Homie is almost an entire foot taller than his dad. Dad doesn't care at all, I've never heard him …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:25 PM
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Dude same I'm never sure where she's gonna go with it. It looks so normal at first but then you think hmm, this quite possibly was written by 3 ferrets in a trench coat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:41 AM
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Sigh. Another "men are only as good as their wallets" and "women are only as good as their waistline" posts. This kind of framework is comforting because it offers a clear, external solution: get money or lose weight and you win at dating. But both this take and the "opposite projection" version it tries to debunk are popular for the same reason: they’re convenient. They sidestep the uncomfortable truth that being desirable is nuanced and often means confronting emotional immaturity, social skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:04 AM
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All joking aside, I'm sorry to hear you're struggling man. The obsession with ambition and achievement is a toxic force of nature in my culture (and sounds like yours too.) We need some measure of a sense of responsibility or else yeah, we can end up destitue, but it so often causes people to lose the forest for the trees. To see everything they don't have, and get obsessed with that. I'm only 40ish, but in my experience, it is very easy to become myopically focused on goals and miss life as it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:41 PM
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Well sure. Don't become homeless, hug my family more, two chicks at the same time. Ya know, the standard crap they taught back in my day at Bootstrap University. Turns out living in the present is pretty dope too. Walk + chew gum. You got this!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:49 AM
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Don't listen to that capitalist propaganda, comrade. There's more to life than ✨️productivity✨️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:56 AM
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Hmm. You sound triggered. Making people suck dicks they don't wanna suck is all fun and games until it's you on your knees eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:23 AM
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Save a life, suck a wiener. Well you sure got a pretty mouth on you, don't ya. Open wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:07 AM
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I'm having a hard time understanding why this word is being used this way. Everyone seeks the best of what is available. HyperGAMY literally translates women, specifically, feeling entitled to caliber of man that is more superior than herself, because she's a woman. If it means this it means nothing. Everyone seeks the best mate they can and mate hopping isn't relegated to women trading lower status mates for higher ones. In fact it's more common for men to trade aging mates for younger ones. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:57 PM
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This subreddit is based on r/TheRedPill and concepts taken from the red pill. I am using hypergamy how it is intended within pill spaces. In your first comment you said this I think most women have hypergamous urges even if they don’t act on them. Hypergamous in the red pill sense and how it’s defined in this subreddit, I mean, so women being attracted to the best men, most sexually attractive men among her options or what is available to her, not sociological hypergamy. But then I copied the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:45 PM
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The official definition is to marry above your station/social class, but the RP concept mainly refers to women seeking men that are "better than they are". That is likely to mean station/class but could also mean education level, social standing, other sources of prestige or status more generally. That's from the definition on the wiki. If a woman is choosing the best from her available options, that actually doesn't automatically imply hypergamy. She could perceive the best of her options to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:23 PM
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's definitely a nazi?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:46 PM
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Alright you want baby bites? I gotchu fam. Past promiscuity is not a predictior of monogamous success in either gender. There is correlation, but it goes away when you control for factors such as trauma and personality disorders that contributed to the promiscuous behavior in the first place. You think OP's relationship is doomed because she was promiscuous in the past. Why would a woman's relationship be doomed by past promiscuity but not a man's?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:52 PM
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I initially thought all that crap at the bottom was your sources and I was shocked and impressed. I played the fuck outta myself on that one. Sneaky! On another note, what in the quora is going on here mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:39 PM
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Post the ruined pair bonding study you're thinking of. Do it. I've looked for it and it doesn't exist. You're coping. Badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:33 PM
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Good one. You just implied that the only nonsexual physical contact that you can imagine having with any creature is... playing with a pet. I sure hope you think parents partake in physical intimacy with their children that is nonsexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:29 PM
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Oof. Telling on yourself by sliding in here under the automod's skirt. (Me too lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:33 AM
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Big agree on all of the above and congrats on the new spawn!! You ready for man to man coverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:20 AM
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I like my genitals affectioned Aannnnddd end thread lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:41 PM
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You’re drawing the wrong conclusions from that study. It talks about fields affected by AI, not specific jobs, and definitely not how those jobs will be affected. Just because a field is female dominated doesn’t mean the women in those fields will be hit hardest. Automation typically targets roles that are high cost and very structured like managers, analysts, and coders. The hands on jobs, mostly done by women and blue collar men, will stick around because they’re underpaid for their labor, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:44 AM
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There is an obvious reading of this anecdote that actually proves OPs point, that some men are master manipulators. Which, to me, is sorta the meta point that "Choose better" is a weak, unconstructive, and victim blamey dismissal of abusive behavior. It is when it is said to men too. It's usually made in a self-aggrandizing way by someone who thinks they are the "better" but by saying this are proving they are not. Quite a cute little paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:56 AM
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In fact I think many bullets were dodged here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:40 PM
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Just requires some listening, curiosity, and consent. Hmmm, best I can do is.. is.. penis size?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:37 PM
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This math isn't mathin for me. How do you know if a woman with a low n count even had as many offers? It's very probable, if not likely, that a woman with an n count of say, 20, has turned down way more "offers" than a nonreligious woman who has an n count of like 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:28 PM
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Soooooo, what happened then? 🤔😆
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:09 PM
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Actually it requires very little effort if you truly love and care for each other Sorry bro but this is insanely naive. I've been with my wife for 16 years and not a single ounce of effort towards my marriage hasn't been worth it, but it absolutely does require effort. Raising my kid has taken insane amounts of effort as well, also worth it, but also a lot of work. Complacency, relying exclusively on love to sustain a relationship? That's how you end up divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:58 PM
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"Bare minimum" is an expectation threshold defined by each individual for each situation. Some high maintenance gal using the term in a way you disagree with isn't an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:00 PM
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Is someone forcing you to associate with people like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:17 PM
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Yeah, the whole pill metaphor low key annoys me (this sub is my daily self-harm 😂). The pill concept flattens complex issues into nebulous ideological "sides" that offer primarily pseudo-solutions. You're right that they tap into a real sense of alienation, especially among young men. I don’t think those ideologies gain ground because the people who buy into them are inherently malicious though, it’s more that they’re sold a distorted overly simplistic answer to a genuine but insanely complex ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:11 PM
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Ugh. This again. The original comment wasn’t arguing that the world is fair or that people get what they deserve. It was about freedom to pursue relationships; not morality of outcome, not entitlement to success. That’s not the just world fallacy. I see this goddamned fallacy cited constantly in here, and maybe one in twenty times is it actually used correctly. Misusing terms like that doesn’t strengthen your argument, it muddies it. Which is a shame, because you probably do have a solid point. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:59 PM
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I don't think entitlement is always concious. I think if you see "everyone" around you attaining relationships or sex or career advancement or whatever, you can unintentionally internalize that it is "available" to you. This can make it seem like it i therefore is something you should be able to "earn". If you do what you believe you are supposed to do to earn it, but then feel restricted or cut off from getting it, you feel cheated. This is not itself a bad thing. Wage theft, housing discrimina…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:34 PM
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Seeking out is vastly different than attaining. Capitalist cultures brainwash people from a very young age that if it's available, you (not the royal you, you personally) have access to it. Maybe not right away, maybe not easily, but if you "perform requirement well enough" you will get the thing. That just doesn't work for things like human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:12 PM
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Prison sentences and abuse shelters are your beacons of gynocentrism? Things that only 1% of people ever encounter? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:28 PM
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Any man who must say I am the king is no true king.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:22 PM
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It is not. Irrelevant. To her. You know, her preference, her opinion. What you explicitly asked for in this post. You clearly need help that is far outside my scope of practice. Good luck my man. Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:59 PM
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A woman said, "Yes, I'm sure about size. I am a small woman. I don't need anything extravagant." That’s clearly a statement about her personal preference and comfort, not about anatomical limits. You ignored that and replied, "Even small women can take any size," as if her subjective experience is invalidated by physical capacity. That’s a category error. You confused can with wants or feels good. My response, pointing out that women can also push out a baby’s head, and that doesn’t make it enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:54 PM
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This is porn brain talking. Yeah small women can take any size up to and including THE HEAD OF A HUMAN INFANT. That doesn’t mean it feels good ya numpty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:37 PM
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Yeah masculinity is a whole paradox innit. In my estimation, the strongest form of masculinity throughout time and culture is just a man, acting on his values and integrity, entirely unconcerned about how manly he seems. Think about the most relatable and inspiring masculine figures in our stories and culture. Aragorn, Uncle Iroh, Samwise, Mister Rogers, Atticus Finch, Mufasa, Jesus literal fucking Christ lol. These dudes aren't rich and bombastic abd macho and ridiculously buff and strong. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:34 PM
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The dead bedroom thing seems more likely to be a consequence of a woman with highly sexual past not being attracted to the man she settled down with. I have literally never seen this. I used to be obsessed with DBR stories. Every dbr story that I've read from a LL woman's perspective has to do with her husband becoming a complacent or needy partner and she lost attraction to him because of his behavior. Half of them were virgins or low body count before marriage and most say they are still physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:29 PM
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Some of his stated positions seemed odd coming from someone who's never been married or had children despite admitting that he fits the profile of a man who could easily do so. There was a lot of denigration towards women who chose to delay dating for marriage or having children, but he was doing that exact thing. He posted a video recently that he wants to get serious about that no but if his shift in personal priorities lines up with his shift in content that would be very telling, and not in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:41 PM
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You should make this comment a whole post because I would bet the lack of understanding of this specific point is the problem with 95% of modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:13 PM
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One side of my family is LDS and they support this stuff pretty much as written. They have to keep it off social media because of the "woke mob" but I promise you there are at least 50 in my extended family. Like just my dad's siblings and their kids. Many of my cousins are married fathers of girls and proudly support this shit in person. You may need to get out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:16 PM
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They could have, but most men don't do that Dude holy shit. This is not the win you think it is. If you go to a sandwich place and see a disclaimer Less than the legal limit of 2% poop! would you want to eat there?! Legal limits are absolutely relevant. Would a valid defense to paternity fraud be " well most women don't do that." No. Be so fucking forreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:21 PM
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Project 2025 for one. Laws passing across the US to lower the marriage age so children can be married off by their parents, the SAVE act that prevents married women from voting if they don't have a passport, etc. It kinda seems like it's all being set up like a sword of damocles. My wife and I both changed our names when we got married but it's clear that law is meant to subjugate women. It's... not good dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:18 PM
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knowing you're one of the people that matter in the world Somewhat off topic but people who believe this about themselves, that if they're economically disadvantaged then they don't matter, also believe it about others. And other people can tell that you feel this way. I'm sure there are classist women who will agree with this sentiment, but there is a LOT of anti-gold digger messaging out there that discourages this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 08:10 PM
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The same reason the first guy didn't do shit when the kid came, most men don't wanna be hands-on with raising kids. To me, being an involved parent is nonnegotiable. If my wife died or ran away to Figi or something and I became a single parent, I wouldn't mind dating single moms. But my standards would be higher for them because I understand parenting intimately and wouldn't expect less out of her than I do myself. I've been around a few single moms that are goddamned superhumans and I have no c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:19 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:54 PM
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By all means keep using that term incorrectly so that becomes meaningless. 🙄 It has already happened with gaslighting except this time we will lose access to a useful and genuine critique of privileged views. Look it up, study it, save it for when it actually, obviously applies. I don't want to lose another term because numpties like you wanted to treat it like ranch and throw it on everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:42 PM
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How do you know this for sure? There are tons of men who are extremely socially awkward and can't date then they find a hobby they're really into, meet someone at work, blah blah yada yada and they have a partner. They didn't level up their looks AT ALL, yet now have a partner. That points to your theory being wrong and the person you replied to being correct. Especially since the other way around (un ugly socially awkward guy getting plastic surgery to change his face or height suddenly being i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:34 PM
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You're spending a lot of words centering male desire and trying to argue that it isn’t inherently objectifying. But is that really the issue? I don’t see many people seriously claiming that feeling desire, by itself, is objectification. No one can actually know what you’re feeling unless it comes through in your behavior. Desire and intent are invisible. Actions and impact are what people actually live with. That includes the effect of behaviors that may seem neutral on the surface but carry obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:33 PM
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Aww buddy, of course they do! Nonstop dick talk, as soon as you're out of earshot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:00 PM
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My grandma brings this up every family zoom. Ya know, the weekly hang out 4-8 family members have been having since covid. Her social life is 3 times busier than any of the rest of ours, her husband is 11 years younger than her and takes her golfing at least twice a week, and my mom has a separate phone call with her on Sundays independent of the zoom. She still says she's sad because no one ever remembers her or wants to talk to her. Some women just feel like this when they get older. It has li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:20 PM
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I let an old lady sleep on my shoulder on a flight home from vegas. I didn't move or go pee like I usually do. She seemed so bone tired and like it was the first rest she'd gotten in days. I was happy to let her use my body and never see her again. You can connect with another human for a short while and it be intimate and important and valuable and then you never see them again. That's a valid form of connection. Setting sex aside for a moment, people don't do this kind of hit and run connectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:58 PM
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Yeah these systems are typically self-balancing eventually. The men and women who manage to find partners and make families in the current culture will be able to train their children how to repeat their success. I guess the problem is there has to be a sacrificial generation before we can collectively learn to adapt. As for me, I will be teaching my son in the same vein that my own father taught his daughters. If you find yourself having to rely on anyone to meet any of your needs, you are givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:53 PM
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most men don’t have those things. It’s no one’s fault This seems incongruous to me. Shouldn't someone should be preparing boys for this shifted landscape? Other men, society, parents? Or do you believe that most men are fundamentally unable to develop these, what many social scientists call, "soft" skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:01 PM
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I've watched my gay buds swipe on grindr. It's butt after butt or just a shirtless mirror pic with only the dude's chin showing. No hobbies, minimal personality, just a body buffet. I think way too many men create their own profile with what they would want/need to see on a woman's profile. It's naive at best, irredeemably self-centered at worst. I've used dating apps for a really long time (before they were even apps because phones didn't HAVE apps. Bush was president y'all, fuck.) I'm a medium…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:38 PM
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If the brain is shaped by patterns, why assume detachment learned through casual sex is more lasting or defining than attachment learned later through committed relationships? Isn’t that just picking the interpretation that fits your narrative? This just sounds like repackaged "casual sex ruins a woman's ability to pair-bond" crap from trp. Every study I've read on the subject demonstrates that a person's sociosexuality is related to a whole crapton of factors and can morph and change throughout…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:08 PM
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How do you figure out whether someone’s cheating habits come from their personality, their past, or just their taste for chaos? Why assume casual sex rewires them like some kind of gateway drug? I'm not even sure there'd be a way to scientifically measure that. Also, how do you decide which outside factors don’t count when making that call? Culture, trauma, opportunity, they all play a significant factor in both behaviors. I know men who 100% wouldn't have cheated if they hadn't had a gorgeous w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:41 PM
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Face hard truths, do hard work, fail, keep doing that shit anyway. That's what previous generations actually did. TRP is like religion. A narrative that makes the painful part of reality easier to swallow, but the cost is your utter and unquestioning devotion. And you typically end up choking anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:03 AM
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I've noticed this paradox before. It's a self-reinforcing ideology, too. The more you explain how it's a bad path, the more you fulfill the prophecy that "everyone will tell you it's a bad path, that proves it's the right one."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:00 AM
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you people This is troll level behavior and this subreddit requires good faith arguments. Keep it up please. Low effort nonsense like this deserves a ban and you are well on your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:31 PM
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Do you think he knows what actuarial means? Come on. Homie wants to pull some random statistics out of his ass and use it to, scrolling up for a second, oh yeah, to dunk on dead moms. Fucking yikes. He clearly doesn't give one fuck about anything that doesn't personally affect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:28 PM
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Reverse shocker where the 2 fingers go in the booty side.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:19 PM
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Shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:19 PM
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No. I have been interested in "manosphere" content since I was in college in 2008 and learned about MGTOW in an upper level sociology class, many years before my son was born. I found content produced by women to be the most interesting takes, and usually the most nuanced. Karen Straughan, Christina Hoff Summers, etc. It sort of seemed like their innate distance from the topic, not being men themselves, provided a less biased or personally traumatized perspective. (I wouldn't characterize these …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:55 PM
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Her social shaming behavior was inexcusable, but she did not lie or deceive him. I struggle to understand how she violated his trust. Since that is the entire premise of your post, please explain that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:21 AM
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I imagine most women have been "propositioned" by enough randos on the street, dudes they thought were buddies, coworkers, etc, that the idea that no man wants them at all in any way is an obvious, disprovable, falsehood. Even ugly women have experienced this attention. Whether or not they know the attention is shallow, or even just harassment, is irrelevant. It's still an offer, and I'd eat my hat if there weren't men out there who would follow through if she was amenable. Women aren't "admitti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:04 AM
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I get where you’re coming from, but I’m not totally sold on the "genetic lag" idea. Seems like a lot of guys are just pissed the old easy-mode is gone. Yeah, tech and wealth changed the game in that survival isn’t the baseline anymore. But that doesn’t mean society’s cooked. If anything, fewer people are bothering with half-assed relationships now. That’s why both marriage AND divorce rates are dropping. Less dead weight, more people only signing up when it’s actually good. It’s rough if you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:58 PM
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Really like the coal mining analogy. It nails how old systems might have offered guarantees, but not necessarily good or fulfilling outcomes. A lot of people forget that part when they get nostalgic. Forced lifelong monogamy was actually a shitty deal for a lot of people. Plenty of men were pressured to marry specific girls from church, stay married to cheaters, raise other men's kids, etc. The guys mourning the one-man, one-woman breadwinner+housewife ideal of the '50s are acting willfully igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:20 PM
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All stories should teach you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:48 PM
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Something that is now no longer the norm. 70% of children are being raised in a dual parent household. I wish it was even higher, but 70% still seems like it would count as being the "norm". Sauce
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:46 PM
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Dude, what are you even talking about? They are clearly looking at things broadly yet somehow also avoid thinking about them broadly? Your comment doesn't make sense. Systems are just a bunch of individual choices stacking up. When women say 'it's just choice,' they're not ignoring reality. That's literally how reality works. You're acting like they're missing something or hiding something. You are just assuming weaponized naivete or something I've never even heard of before lol. If you're seein…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:54 AM
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This is what I don't understand about this entire line of discourse. Who. The fuck. Is asking?! Even if a gal you're dating is making casual conversation and asks about the last relationship you've been in just say it's been long enough to not be relevant anymore. In my experience women get shamed enough for being slutty that they don't open the line of questioning about sexual history because they don't want it turned back on them. I date women my own age. Very few women my age are virgins. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:28 AM
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If you answer the reverse, you will probably get the answer to yours. Let’s imagine a woman who, by most measures, has her life together. She has a stable job that supports her, a car, a clean apartment, and she’s a kind, decent person. She’s also had a rich dating and sexual history: many relationships, short and long, and more partners than some might expect or approve of. Maybe she was exploring, maybe she was seeking connection, or maybe she just had different values in her 20s. But now she’…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:19 PM
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As a housecat married to an outside cat, this. You can't field a sports team with all keepers or strikers or quarterbacks or whatever. The key thing is to divide and conquer by interest and talent vs gender or income level or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:50 PM
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So he just has to not be a liability when living together? What is the difference between that and a roommate? What about expectations when the couple doesn't cohabitate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:32 PM
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Men genuinely underestimate how much stronger womens sense of smell can be than theirs. There are very few genuinely universal "truths" about differences between men and women that have been found by scientific studies that cross time periods and culture. More modern studies that include pregnant and trans people show that most or all of these differences can be attributed to hormones. Two of the most clear-cut ones are the tolerances for risk and disgust. I think this is where a huge huge blind…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:54 PM
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That isn't how I read that AT ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:29 PM
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Women are more selective with who they interact with, trust, and allow into their circle. Period. This selectivity is based mainly on safety, but societally, it serves as a sort of cultural vetting process for people. Men who are never "chosen" by women feel ostracized, and often find it harder and harder to be chosen the longer they go without it. The gap in the resume phenomenon. What isn't talked about very often is that women who aren't "chosen" by other women feel this way too. It might eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:33 PM
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And the woman/princess isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:12 PM
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I personally know at least a dozen women who chose to partner with another woman after a divorce or breakup with a male partner. I'm curious what you think is driving this. You stated it in conjunction with the church thing so clearly you think it's correlated to shifting values. But in what way? Do you think 40 year old women, once they're past the wall, get to just choose who to be attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:33 AM
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This seems weird, dude. Pretty misandrist actually. And maybe a borderline self-own? Like think about it. Your claim is that women would rather shack up with someone they aren't attracted to and don't fuck and can't extract resources out of, just to avoid having to deal with any men whatsoever. They could get one thay pays the bills and also fuck chad on the side, they could have whatever they want from men but they'd rather have... LITERALLY NONE OF THEM!? Bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:29 AM
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Don't bother with this one. Some men are positively throbbing at the idea that somehow women treat female partners even worse than they do. There is ample evidence that refutes it, especially when it comes to familicide and family annihilation. They don't wanna hear any of it. I think it kills their boner. Orrrrrrrrrr it's defensive projection. I only know of 2 men who brought up this "statistic" IRL, plus the one about lesbian divorces, and both turned out to be abusive towards their girlfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:17 AM
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I used to get 1 sex for 1 laundry and 2 sex for big promotion and now I barely get 1 sex for 5 things! Inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:42 AM
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make a product that satisfies the need and has no rights. We had that once, then we had a war about it. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:38 AM
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Ah, when you said "psychological and physical needs" you actually meant "intimacy and sex". Bit of a bait and switch, but fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:23 PM
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Aren't some of your family members... women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:13 PM
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Yeah this doesn't track with what I've seen too. Single parents with their shit together really have it together. Stable, organized, mature; typically very attractive marriage partners. That said, hot mess single parents are bad options for settling down with but often quite tempting because they are absolute love bombing professionals. They act like manipulative little gremlins in their desperate search for someone to emotionally and/or financially support them and their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:57 PM
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Ok dusty. Your post from a month ago: Bitches lie for no reason. First conversation with da bitch she 21 talkin bout she a virgin, (ik 2 niggas & a girl cracked) yall be peeping this shit too? We too old for that I must have DUMBASS tatted on my forehead gang 😭 Why bitches be lying bout that? ilovehonesthoes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:25 PM
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The amount of confidently incorrect in some of these "umm akshually" posts is staggering. This one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:38 AM
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I mean, sure, if they wanna risk violence. r/whenwomenrefuse I'm sure a good chunk of women reject men too nicely in an effort to avoid confrontation and still be seen as the "nice" one, but I'd wager most have had bad experiences with men taking their rejection really badly so they softball it for their own safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:45 AM
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This is the way darker side of this entire dynamic that I don't see talked about enough. Have you ever heard of a woman finding a man attractive and sexy, finding out he's gay, and still wanting to fuck him? I never have. I've heard of some women creating very intense, emotionally codependent friendships with gay men in lieu of pursuing a romantic relationship with a straight man, but do they want to fuck him? Not usually. I agree with you big time. Wanting to fuck someone who you know for a fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:59 PM
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People definitely seem to understand the unhinged and juvenile part 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:14 PM
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Comments on are full of bitter rejected men. Um, you're also aggressively coming for pretty much every single comment that dares even suggests that reality is more nuanced and complex. You are coming across as unhinged and juvenile. And I actually agree with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:12 PM
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HA!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:05 PM
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This is typically my vibe. I like very communication-heavy and cerebral connections, and text is a nice way to build that foundation. However! Within the past year, I actually met someone who had a completely different vibe in person than over text. I've been using online dating since 2004 and this is the first time I've been this surprised by in-person chemistry and how different it is to texting. I'm not even talking about attraction, just purely communication style. This person later told me …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:54 PM
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Exactly. If you are someone who wants first dates to be low-key, go for that. Turn down dates outside of that. Similarly, if you like to get fancy from the jump, insist on it. The only problem here is when someone is lying about what they prefer, begrudgingly agreeing to a date they think is the wrong vibe, and then bringing their resentment about it to the situation. The situation they agreed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:48 PM
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Nah, he sounds like an unhinged control freak to me. But my reply was too dry, I forgot /s, and he took it as me agreeing with him, so we've lost the plot. I'm choosing to stay lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:50 AM
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What dragon war could home boy possibly be fighting while also pontificating like this on reddit?! Be so fuckin for real lol. Smugly asserting that you are tough is the #1 top proof that you aren't. Every 9th grader knows this. Any man who must say 'I am the king,' is no true king.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:44 AM
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Not the same level of suffering, no. Not by a long shot. Just the same level of 6th grader answer lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:30 AM
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Homie went for the 6th grader answer like a pro because it will never not be a solid ass answer. Girl answer of "no random boners" applies in the other direction lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:10 PM
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Dude don't you know that male 3 prong plug goes into female electric outlet and energy flows in one direction only?! If you ignore how energy works entirely?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:07 PM
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You ever grab a snack pack pudding but don't have any spoons clean and can still get every last drop of pudding out with your tongue? That's the eating pussy equivalent 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:05 PM
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To be honest it looks to me like women are socially clustering by sexual preferences (or some other criteria unknown to me) and more and more openly sharing the rare desirable men within that cluster. This actually makes a lot of sense, anthropologically and evolutionarily. Human mating strategies are flexible and varied. Throughout our evolutionary history, humans and proto-human ancestors lived in a range of social structures, including male-dominated, female-dominated, cooperative, and shifti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:28 PM
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A lot of studies don't produce results that you would expect or agree with. It's like the entire point of the social sciences. If research consistently produces results that don't match your lived experience (or your algorithmically tailored exposure to the experience of others) that isn't a problem with the research, it's just your own bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:43 PM
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I looked at your profile. Othering, speaking for, and pedestalizing women are also forms of misogyny. It may not feel like it, especially if it comes from a place of unworthiness, but it's still a form of objectification. I won’t pretend that this brand of misogyny is as harmful as the kind centered around domination or contempt because it's not. But that doesn’t mean yours passes the test either. Women are just people my dude. You should believe what they say about themselves. The amount of con…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:41 PM
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I would accept a chode of a chance at this point 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:05 PM
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On today's episode of things that totally definitely for real happened you guys I swear. I always do it in a way that eventually feels good to her This is a rape fantasy my dude. You are not well and I have to report this comment. Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:28 PM
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Wait. How the fuck does anyone know how many people a person is having sex with unless they are personally having sex with that person? Keep it in your pants and no one can shame you for shit because they won't know. If they assume you're a creepy virgin even though you've never told them you're a virgin, maybe they're honing in on the creepy part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:55 PM
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You guys need to update your NPC programming. The chemtrails interrupted their OTA update 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:28 PM
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my women and their families You shootin for multiple at once or one at a time?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:12 AM
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Could that change? If the first one doesn't change, she might be a vampire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:10 AM
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First of all they don't get any success and that's why they quit. Nobody wants to be repeatedly humiliated Can you explain this a bit more? What I'm getting is that every time a man attempts to date a woman he is asking her, "Am I worthy?" Despite the fact that she isn't answering on behalf of all women, merely herself, consistent answers of, "no, you are not worthy" accumulate into an extremely negative self-image. Is this correct? Humiliation seems like an odd word choice. A simple, "no thanks…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:29 AM
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Can you define the 80/20 rule as you understand it? I want to check something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:21 PM
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I've heard feminism criticized for having too much infighting moreso than this. Might be an algorithm echo chamber/circle jerk thing you're seeing specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:52 PM
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Tyrone.AI I'm crying 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:47 AM
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I honestly don't even bother learning the names of the girlfriends etc. This is really sad. Not that you do this, if you do, I don't give a fuck. It's sad that you see it as a flex. You know when people work unnecessarily hard to demonstrate a trait, it means they don't have it, right? Fucking Shakespeare talked about it. The lady doth protest to much, methinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:01 PM
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The women don't seem to understand that, they take it really poorly, gnashing of teeth, threats etc. So what? Abandoning your commitments to people is pretty trash, but the person you abandoned either has access to recourse, or they don't. You are mad that women get... grumpy about it?! Fathers abandoning their families to go get milk is such a common and mundane trope that my son told me a joke about it in 1st grade. I had to actually reassure him that most fathers don't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:56 PM
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i dont even see why redpillers care so much what chronically online reddit feminists have to say If discourse is triggering to someone, it is likely because it is ringing true to them in some cognitively dissonant way. A hit dog will holler. just say "ok boomer" and call it a day Ignoring discourse that doesn't ring true only works if it is irrelevant to you. Boomers thinking getting a job just required a firm handshake was delusional, yes, but job seekers couldn't really ignore the statement wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:15 PM
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This is one of the most r/ihavesex comments I've seen in a while. Yikes bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:19 AM
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There are like 7 new small businesses where I live that have opened up since covid. All owned and operated by female tradespeople. They are booked out for months longer than the others. One of my wife's coworkers just bought a house and it needs a new HVAC. She has a female roommate who was assaulted by a maintenance man in college so she was like hey lemme check out this all-chick HVAC team instead of trying to schedule around the roomie. They were scheduling out their non-emergency installs fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:57 AM
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Fair. But if your comment did, in fact, agree with the main premise of OPs debate post, then it shouldn't have been a top level comment. My reading of it was biased towards not agreeing because top level comments aren't allowed to agree...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:03 PM
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Uhhh, that comment didn't agree with your post though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:46 PM
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I think... I think he's actually trying to mansplain breastfeeding. He's got nothing if not audacity 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:43 PM
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4 babies in my extended family, including my own, never nursed because of problems latching. I never dug deep enough to figure out if it was weird nipple shapes on the boobs or a weird tongue thing going on with the babies. In all 4 cases the mothers pumped breastmilk and it was fed to the babies by mom, dad, auntie, grandma, whoever the fuck. Breastpumps have been free under all insurances in the US since the ACA. Pumping can be a lot of work but none of the moms seemed to mind. There were no f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:39 PM
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Welp looks like I'm not the only one who couldn't read through your da vinci code post to figure out your actual argument. Maybe my reading wasn't the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:47 PM
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You would need to prove this men are consistently batting below their league while women are dating above theirs Before making this claim assortative mating is now fundamentally dead Your entire position rests on this and it doesn't appear to be supported by anything other than... let's see here... For anyone with a brain, everything I've said is pretty obvious. Oh. Well, I was gonna say ✨️vibes✨️, but argumentum ad populum works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:43 PM
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The responsibility to provide evidence to support a claim rests with the person making the claim, not the person who denies or questions it. You made the post and claim. Anyone dismissing your claim because it doesn't contain evidence is justified in doing so without providing their own evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:32 PM
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It's almost like "human nature" either isn't the same for everyone, everywhere, for all of time; or it isn't internally consistent. Not sure the mountains of study and philosophy going back hundreds of years exploring both concepts will suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:25 PM
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Homie already admitted to knowing absolutely nothing about baking ok, maybe he didn't know that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:19 PM
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Dude, anything can be a date. Picnic in the park, walking around the city, having a drink at a cool new microbrewery. Finding niche things you both are into and figuring out how to turn one of them into a NOTdinner date is an extremely attractive and charming move actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 12:11 PM
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It kinda sounds like he imagines himself as the woman in this scenario, doesn't it? Such detail about the experience from her perspective...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 12:03 PM
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I feel like I gotta take more pain before I get to that level again Ugh. Always lol 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:39 AM
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That's the day I knew I was old. Monkey bars felt like a form of torture. These stupid squishy ricepaper covered hands used to climb trees and hop fences damnit!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:27 AM
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This take should be thrown in the garbage. There's a string about parents in this very thread. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:23 AM
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This literally doesn't describe her at all 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:35 PM
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Don't debaters have to, ya know, debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:56 AM
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This is an important point. Men are dangerous to women in relationships, but they are more dangerous in general to other men. Social scientists just consider it a different category of violence compared to violence against women because men rarely attack another man because of his gender. While 50% of violent crime victims are men, 80% of murder victims are men. The most common and devastating form of violence is, and always has been, men killing other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:05 PM
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I appreciate the clarification in your response. I don’t think the idea of cultural misandry is entirely baseless. There are real ways in which men are mocked or dismissed, particularly when it comes to emotional expression. However, I still see fundamental flaws in your framing, especially regarding the idea that men are bearing a social burden as "payback" for patriarchy. First, you describe a culture where misandry is pervasive, yet its effects seem limited to discomfort. If that were truly t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:43 PM
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I have... questions. I largely disagree with the premise, but you've correctly latched on to a cultural defensiveness that I think is worth exploring. If you could provide some clarity on your positions, that would help me understand how to respond. How are you defining misandry in this context? Are you talking about personal hostility, systemic oppression, or just criticism of certain male behavior? How do you distinguish between misandry and broad criticism of patriarchal norms? If pushback ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:38 PM
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I could see these being silly ways a woman refers to her sex toys I guess. Vacation dick is small and discreet and fits in a carry-on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:02 AM
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I am my minimum standard for most things. Repeated for emphasis. This is not hypergamy, this is the statistically proven process of assortative mating. People almost always end up with someone in their "league." Period. Not on every metric, it's a composite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:33 PM
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Apparently you can have a lot of centers. And you can rank them. 🙇
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:46 PM
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Just because I’m not decentering something doesn’t mean my life revolves around it Holy shit. Did you actually type this out? If you aren't decentering something that means you are centering it. That literally means your life revolves around it! Bro. Words mean things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:43 PM
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Only penises permenatly ruin people. Notice how the number of women that a woman has slept with doesn't apply to her bodycount? Same for guys. Women don't ruin his value, not even sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:29 AM
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Can you expand on this? Men not valuing nor investing in platonic connection doesn't seem to be a positive thing for society overall, but the way you've stated this is that it is neutral or fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:45 AM
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Errr, when is the last time you had a conversation with a grown up in real life? 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 06:12 AM
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But why does he have the confidence?! That doesn't come from nowhere. He likely has had subtle bullshit advantages his entire life. He was likely shielded from consequences so he became more emboldened to take risks and yeah, sometimes risks pay off. It's like the birth month athlete thing. Kids born at the beginning of the school year are more emotionally and physically developed than their peers. They are often better at sports and are able to develop more confidence and motivation to continue…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:41 PM
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I agree with you. I phrased that way too ultimatum-y. It was more intended to be a reminder that what is obvious communication to you may not be obvious to the receiver. And that if the woman doesn't realize something is a dealbreaker until it has already occurred, the necessary communication to divert disaster just won't be possible. I went more in-depth in my response to OPs reply, if you're curious. Anyway in your case, I don't think your husband was the kind of man I was referring to. It sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:34 PM
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Blackmail? I think you're thinking of an ultimatum? Either way, you are correct in that I phrased that part more ultimatum-y than I intended. My ideal way of this being communicated would be more like, I've noticed that you don't seem to take this Issue that I keep bringing up as being serious. I want to make sure you know that this is becoming a dealbreaker level situation for me. Not just from Issue itself, but because of your repeated failure to genuinely address it despite your placating res…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:25 PM
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Confidence, luck, privilege, pick your poison. Doesn't matter. The point is he didn't have better outcomes because he worked hard to achieve them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:08 PM
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I would like to challenge the notion that these men are always negligent or delusional for missing relationship warning signs. Differing tolerance thresholds for dissatisfaction are shaped largely by gender socialization and can lead to these dynamics. Men are often socialized to endure discomfort and may misjudge the significance of recurring complaints, not out of malice but because their internal benchmark for “tolerable unhappiness” in general is higher. This discrepancy means that what one …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:44 PM
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People who whine and complain about life not being fair betray their immaturity. Who THE FUCK told them life was fair?! Disney? Their parents? Ok, yes, same, but then life happened, and I grew up? Confuses the fuck outta me when I see rants, articles, reddit posts, etc from people in their 30s complaining they didn't get a blessing from RNJesus. Most of us don't. Acknowledging, addressing, and advocating for ends to systemic oppression? Sure. In fact, absofuckinglutely. But that's... not the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:16 PM
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Yeah, even OP seems to understand that being "macho" is a performative or exaggerated expression of masculinity. Feeling the need to perform something does seem to imply that you can not do it naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:41 PM
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Tag: "Question for Women" Doesn’t have to be a question. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:10 PM
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It was a very powerful expectation for all of my father's daughters to go to college. Even moreso than his son! All 4 kids got degrees but one of his daughters ended up a stay at home mom. He is very worried and disappointed and asked what her plan for work was, if she needed money to go back to school, etc. She's almost 40 and he is still extremely uneasy about her being dependent on anyone else, even if it was her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:03 PM
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Yeah, this isn't a genuine question or request for debate. Just more preaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:24 PM
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You haven’t shown that men are conscripted to oppress them as men, only that conscription is unequal; which I already acknowledged. Unequal treatment isn’t automatically oppression if it’s based on functional criteria rather than an intent to harm or dominate. If conscription existed to oppress men based specifically on their sex, it wouldn’t be limited by age and fitness, it would target all men equally. In this reply you’re arguing that any sex-based distinction contradicts egalitarianism, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:28 PM
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Conscription is a form of government oppression, but its purpose is to create an emergency force of the strongest available defenders. The reason most governments only conscript people with testicles is not arbitrary oppression but the belief that they generally have greater physical strength, making them the most effective fighters. This is similar to how conscription often has age limits, prioritizing those in peak physical condition. If the goal were to oppress people with testicles specifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:00 PM
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Hypotheticals like this are so ridiculous and betray how ignorant nonparents are about parenting. One of the biggest ethical struggles of parenting is the balance between making sure your child doesn't have to struggle and suffer too much, and raising them to be a good person. Pretty much every comment will lean one way or another based on where they lean on that question. My personal parenting philosophy is that suffering is inevitable, integrity is not. So I guess if I had to pick, I would pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:14 AM
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Politics shapes laws, rights, and daily life, so saying it doesn’t reflect a person’s virtue asserts that political choices don’t have serious consequences. That’s a privileged perspective because clearly it just means that politics hasn’t directly impacted your safety, freedom, or well-being. It’s like saying fire safety laws don’t reflect morality. That is easy to say, and believe, if your home has never burned down personally. Doubly so if you have never known someone close to you who lost th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:08 PM
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Work 40+ years providing & protecting the entite family only to wind up alone & no friends in the nursing home. Yep. If you spend half a century insisting that all you are good for is a paycheck and a firm hand, you can't really blame anyone for believing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:15 AM
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Nuance?! At this time of year? At this time of day? In this subreddit? Localized entirely within your comment? Good luck with that. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:55 PM
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you sound like a man with experience, we don't do that here please. You joke, but actually though...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:10 PM
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My suggestion is. Stay off the apps for a few months at a time. I can't remember where I heard this, but based on how apps work, this is the actual best way to use them! Go on for a few weeks, power swipe and dedicate a good amount of time towards genuine conversations, and boldly pursue people you find. Once it fizzles out, uninstall or deactivate the app for like 4 months. Something about the way the algorithm boosts new users, the way that existing users treat new people, etc. Most people I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:22 AM
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Bro has that new iphone with 1000x zoom karyotype mode
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:47 PM
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This analogy has a flaw, and it's pretty much the same one all anti-socialists make: you are conflating communism and democratic socialism (the only modern version of socialism with wide support). Socialism seeks to establish democratically crafted support systems to address fundamental issues that socialists see as public goods like education, national defense, and ensuring there aren't too many desperate, hungry people (who are more likely to turn to violence). Incel entitlement is about deman…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:19 PM
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Capitalism is the dominant social hierarchy, but it relies on patriarchy as a structural support. Reinforcing traditional gender roles that includes unpaid care work, while somehow also demanding a two income household, ensures a cheap labor force. It props up and justifies wage disparities, and keeps economic power concentrated at the top. Capitalism also has a vested interest in making sure people don’t see it as the dominant hierarchy. That’s why, in the debate over ‘why are full-time working…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:56 PM
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Beyond that, letting anyone else determine what is right, wrong, or, God forbid, "toxic" for you is a chicken shit move. This sentence just made me realize something. This is the exact reason why red-pill ideology and rhetoric comes across as insanely unmasculine to me. Doesn't it sort of seem like this form of masculinity is fundamentally paradoxical? There’s an increasing obsession with defining, optimizing, and policing what it means to be a ‘real man,’ but this obsessive degree of self-scrut…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:39 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure what OP's point is. I don't think any woman would argue that there is a point in their life when they have the highest QUANTITY of men who are interested in them sexually. But like, so what? Is it useful to have a high SMV if you don't want to have sex indiscriminately with any random person who will have you? Most women I know are my age and consider themselves long past that peak point, but there doesn't seem to be a "wall" where interest ceases completely. In fact, divorcee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:35 PM
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it does make most straight women slightly uncomfortable. It took me a really long time to understand biphobia. Bisexuality in men seems to make straight women uncomfortable, and bisexuality in women seems to make lesbians uncomfortable. Conversely, very few men consider bisexuality a dealbreaker in women they date. It's like there's this idea that if someone sleeps with/dates both men and women, that person will only ever treat the relationships that they have with men as the serious ones. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:46 PM
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"Avoidant" and "egomaniac" should ideally not be used as nouns that describe people. Categorizing people who are prone to certain behaviors AS that behavior is typically unhelpful in healing them OR dealing with them. There are very few true narcissists (people with narcissistic personality disorder), but many who display narcissistic traits or behaviors. Similarly, attachment theory doesn't seek to diagnose people as anything, but rather to explain patterns of behavior, their possible sources, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:28 PM
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I'd much rather date a bisexual woman for the simple reason that they might actually be open to something like this. I have a few hetero lady friends who are specifically seeking out bisexual men for pretty much the same reason. A queer partner is almost always going to be more open minded in those departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:04 PM
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who these women are that are comfortable eating a whole meal with somebody they don't even like lol I've been on a stretched food pantry budget, drained ebt account, ramen for days straight diet, etc. My introverted ass has still never been that hungry. 😟
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:17 PM
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Shirtless in a completely different, still appropriate context, isn't necessarily bad. Shirtless in the gym says quite literally, "I spend a lot of time here and am proud enough about that to not only have a photo of it but to use that phoro to attract mates." Again, not bad if that's what someone is looking for, but I imagine not all women are looking for a Gaston type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:46 PM
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Women are treated more gently in ways men are not Is this not because they are taken less seriously? I'm not sure there is a meaningful difference between "benevolent sexism" and "patronizing misogyny." This kind of "gentle" behavior isn't about giving women an advantage—it's about underestimating them while masking it as respect. It can manifest as dismissing women’s opinions, assuming incompetence, or treating them like they need constant guidance. It’s especially insidious because it can be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:22 AM
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So, presumably, these women are disgusted by their fathers, brothers, and sons?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:43 PM
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Fish don't consent to being caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:11 PM
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Your bulleted manner of communicating is really strange my dude. It's like you can't connect your thoughts together and have to print them out one impusle at a time like a telegraph. Perhaps you are not a native English user and are using a translator? If so, please try a different one. If not, please see a psychiatrist asap as disconnected thoughts and ideas can be symptoms of serious neurological or neurochemical disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:50 AM
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I change the oil in the family cars three times per year, I change the family laundry over three times per day. I think the last time I had to kill or remove a critter by hand was like 20fucking19. Daily domestic work and intermittent domestic work are different categories of labor. If they are to be compared, the only two metrics that matter are hours spent completing them and/or dollars spent hiring the tasks out. I don't personally care how people divide tasks in the home, but the total hours…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:44 AM
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My answer was pithy and sarcastic mostly. My real answer is, as usual: it depends. The idea that anyone who struggles with attracting others romantically will be so happy once they find someone that they will be dedicated and loyal and not want to leave is as absurd as the opposite. Like most difficult things in life, the first time is the hardest. Once you've cleared that "first time" hurdle, subsequent attempts will be easier. Women clear it early because they experience a period of time in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:19 PM
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It only takes one jackpot to create a gambling addiction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:53 PM
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Got a few of those too. One of the divorced women I mentioned told one of those guys to buck up and leave like she did. If not for his own sake at least do it for his kid. He can't do it. We live in a 50/50 state, he has a good enough job to support himself and his kid, he just... won't. He hasn't had sex in 18 months, he doesn't even like her anymore. He's not a dedicated family man he's a coward and a doormat. Staying in a marriage like that isn't a flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:56 PM
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Yeah, I'm in my late 30s and keep seeing this happen in my extended friend group. The men getting cozy and lazy, the women picking up the slack. Slowly at first, because the women aren't working or lost in the sauce of raising little kids. But over the years, the women pick up more roles and go back to work and such, and the dudes sorta stagnate. Eventually the women are doing effing everything and the guys just work and sleep. I have been a firsthand witness to these women reminding their husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:31 PM
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I think it's a bit of a paradox. Once they get into a relationship, they don't consider themselves low value anymore and get too big for their britches. Also, a lot of men think the hard part is "finding a relationship" and give 0 focus and effort to the "keeping the relationship" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:15 PM
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This is clearly a trauma response, but one that is pretty easily explained, and more often than not, understandable. A guy will say he doesn't like dogs, and it's a red flag until he explains he was mauled by one when he was 10 years old. A gal will say she is suspicious of all men, and when she explains she has been treated predatorily by them since she was 10, the answer is: but not all men are bad. Seriously?! You don't think she knows this? The dog guy knows not all dogs are bad either. To b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:46 PM
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I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding the aversion. If someone eats deli style roast beef that was left out all night and gets food poisoning, it is probable that an aversion to deli roast beef will form. The aversion that develops is not rational. Yes, the poisoning was because of poor food safety because my roommate at the time was a dipshit. But 13 years later, I still can not encounter roast beef in that form without feeling queasy. This is an automatic response. For most women, aggr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:19 PM
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What many men seem to forget, and this analogy highlights it, is that for many women, not drinking water at all is an option. Men aren't just competing against highly attractive men, or a woman's ridiculous standards, they are also competing against a woman's peace while single. This is technically true for men too, they could just NOT entertain women who pose a threat to their life and livelihood. Many older men understand this and make this choice. But for young guys, hormones be raging. But a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:27 PM
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Fwiw, I see far more women expressing sympathy and trying to match up their brothers and sons than I see men defending women and girls who are getting harassed by other men. I don't think women have much impetus in defending the feelings and struggles of a cohort who, in their experience, don't defend their literal safety. (I personally disagree that this is a tit for tat or zero sum situation. These two things don't need to depend on one another, and defending safety AND feelings should be prio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:10 PM
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I agree with you, but I also believe her. I think there are just that many desperate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:59 PM
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"I don't like it when women talk around me." Have you tried, I dunno, just telling them that? 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:24 PM
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I didn't have "dude mansplaining queer sexuality" on my bingo card when I opened this thread, but here we are. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:52 PM
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Imagine calling teenage whiny naive Leonardo Dicaprio in the Titanic "the manly hot one" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:19 PM
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Moisture contributes to the problem significantly. No fluids besides sweat, less moisture, less smegma.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 01:40 AM
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A penis just for fucking. All the rest of the yucky biological stuff happens elsewhere. Less smegma and cleanup, easier birth control. This seems... kinda futuristic, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:49 PM
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You think he's hung out with women? That seems generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:08 PM
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I know a cute grad student (~24f) who tried this last year in our mediumish city and the singular guy she made it to an in person date with chickened out before the meal was over. I didn't mention it before because it's literally n=1 but hey, do a fake profile and prove me wrong if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:48 AM
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Yeah if a woman put on a dating app that the only sex act she will consent to is pegging straight men, she would have a hard time getting matches. It isn't the gender that's important. For sex with this clear agent-object dichotomy, the object will always have more options than the agent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:07 AM
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Women don't inherently enjoy sex, this leads to checks notes them having sex and getting pregnant. 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:06 AM
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That's some peak Dunning-Kruger shit tbh. Most people who think they are smarter than some system are actually not intelligent enough to recognize that the system accounts for that. The only way to adequately fight any kind of social engineering is to recognize and accept that you are vulnerable to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:40 PM
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Literally algorithms. Where have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:29 PM
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other similarly crass defenses of going after much younger partners. I agree that it is not a universal truism, but from what I can tell, it does not seek to defend harmful age gaps. It seems to actually be more of a way to socially stigmatize harmful age gaps. By this math, a man in his 50s would be considered too old to date anyone in their 20s. This seems appropriate, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:51 PM
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Ok, so it's specifically financial, unilateral control over household budget. Thank you. Control can mean a million things in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:27 PM
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Ok so the rule I learned as a millenial is "the minimum age you can date is half your age plus 7" By that math, 6 years younger is too young for anyone 18-23. Which makes perfect sense because for anyone in that range, 6 years younger makes the other person an actual child and too far apart in age for any romeo and juliet laws to save them. There are definitely some stages of life where 6 years is hard to relate to, even if it passes the math; I do agree with that. Someone who is 28 and graduate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:10 PM
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Can you explain what "control" means in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:00 PM
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A lot of us love sex and have high libido, but are turned on by the mental/emotional connection that takes a little time to develop I think a portion of this disconnect could be solved if more men had a basic understanding of the demisexuality continuum and the fact that almost all women are more demisexual than almost all men. Demisexual people do not typically get a full steam yes or full steam no when it comes to someone's fuckability factor based on appearance alone. It happens, but it is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:50 PM
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How can identity be shaped without influence from external sources and experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:30 PM
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You might be interested in the end of history illusion. Most people think they aren't going to change much going forward. Most people do. Those who don't are typically making a concious effort to stay the way they are for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:18 PM
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4B is just women's 2008 era MGTOW. I flirted with MRA stuff back then and got deep into that rabbit hole. The ideology is remarkably similar. I can't think of any honest reason a RPer wouldn't be all for it, especially a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:14 AM
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Why do you say this? I would define myself this way and I'm married. I'm in a relationship because I want to be, not because I need to be. This seems like a weird take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:20 AM
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