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Great keep laughing at at anonymous profile’s responses. The joke’s on you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:30 PM
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You don’t know what you’re talking about: if the specific coach in question has a money back guarantee, I think it’s definitely RESULTS BASED! Please check your facts before embarrassing yourself ffs 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:24 PM
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Yep pretty sad, gotta agree with that NGL!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:23 PM
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You don’t know what you’re talking about. He’s been operating since 2008. 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:42 PM
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Agree completely! ​ Sometimes I get come ons from women who appear in their 20s. I'll take what comes to me 🤷 but there are hot women in their 30s and I'd probably be slightly (at least?) more likely to emotionally connect/ be on the same wavelength as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:33 PM
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I agree with your overall sentiment that it’s difficult to pinpoint what’s likely to creep women out. However I’d like to suggest that you look up on YouTube HealthyGamer’s video on what makes someone creepy. I watched it and found it incredibly insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:00 PM
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Ok…. NO ONE “deserves” a virgin. People aren’t here to please anyone’s religious or religious-esque fantasies. People’s bodies regardless of biological sex belong to themselves .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:41 AM
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Nope it depends completely on personality plus individual’s emotional issues. Good looking people can still be insecure and having past experiences of being socially excluded and left out can fuel a need for validation about your attractiveness which is ultimately EASIER to fill the void of through hooking up with people IF you’re good looking and can use, leverage and capitalise on that as an advantage. It allows you to fill the emotional void of not feeling accepted in the easiest possible way…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:39 AM
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This seriously doesn’t even need an explanation. Age gap is just wrong meaning gross… UNLESS the guy is hot. Or the woman is strangely enough attracted to something about him that makes him stand out. I frequently get told I’m good looking, handsome but even so I’m not particularly interested in dating a uni student. Sure, I’m attracted to college/university age young women but I’m not focusing exclusively on trying to appeal to them. If they’re into me which sometimes they make it obvious they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:10 AM
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Short answer in one word: sexism. Society sees men as capable of other roles… besides just parenting. With women on the other hand… maybe subconsciously a lot of people still can’t see beyond that as being what women are “meant for”/designed for. Not my views. My interpretation of what the popular view still IS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:21 AM
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Get called handsome on a regular basis. 5 feet 9. Not SUPER tall but taller than some celebs like Mark Wahlberg, Joaquin Phoenix, Tom Hardy. And within 1 cm of same height as Matt Damon. And yeah that’s the irony. Offline it probably would have looked very different 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:39 PM
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Dude… no way on earth she’d have the courage to say that to me irl… I’ve been called 8/10 by other guys who are straight. Been told hundreds of times I’m good looking /handsome. And been athletic all my life. She’d look like a weirdo going full b1tch mode on me face to face…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:19 AM
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My Thai partner found me instead where I already live. I never needed to go there 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:12 AM
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YES! I think that's pretty easy to agree on. ​ Can we ALSO perhaps agree... that this realisation is the height of common sense level obviousness? ​ Being NICE isn't sexy. It's just... the opposite... of being...a total dark sadistic psychopath? ​ However if you were only BEING nice in the first place, specifically TO appeal to people you're attracted to... in order to perhaps, get them to like you, be fond of you and maybe even make out with you and make love to you, that's a really SIMP REASON…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:16 AM
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These won’t happen at all if you’re doing street cold approaches Also in a nightclub, there are loads of distractions from lots of stimuli so you could be waiting weeks for a single IOI or indicator of interest there If you’re not going to have ANY social interaction until you’ve been given green lights then you’ll be waiting a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:29 AM
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I’m actually attracted to women who are on the taller side. I’m 5 feet 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:58 AM
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I do, completely and will spend my life with her. And also…. We both still love each other… even though we hardly EVER have sex because of how busy we are 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:15 AM
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The whole idea of incels being bad is a huge misconception. I recently joined a Facebook group for them just to observe what they’re really like and what they say and talk about. Most of them are just depressed or low self confidence. These guys aren’t ranting and raving women hating statements. They’re mostly just suffering from a deep sense of hopelessness about how to ever improve their situation. Having said that, I do agree that this purple pill subReddit… is basically CHOCK FULL of closet …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:04 AM
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Yes and no. It’s the same for SOME men but not all. When I was much younger like in my 20s, I was so lonely that I wanted… a relationship just so I wouldn’t be alone. Having been in a bunch of them since… I now accept as valid and ok wanting casual sex and flings. I also now know how to find one and make it happen. So yes there are men aligned with the blue pill. But once you’ve has the life experience to know what relationships are really like and what they involve, then it’s natural to want ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:00 PM
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Some parts of this like "getting over yourself" seems like new a55hol3 was ripped lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:19 PM
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You are right however so are they. ​ The reason they have no idea what they're talking about is... because they're not a) your psychologist OR b)... your coach. ​ Of course, you do need to communicate better, more effectively that is. And how exactly you need to and what skills need to be used specifically, obviously depends on what exactly the situation is and also what you're already doing or not doing. ​ When guys get "friend zoned", it's because the conversation and interaction isn't sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:27 PM
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Hmm. Well having PTSD might??? If it happened previously, meaning if she was mugged in a parking lot… previously? Because there’s an opportune PLACE for a dedicated organised crime creep to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:18 PM
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It's a pretty old question. All women want a committed relationship. Even if they say they're preoccupied with other things... they would still jump at it if it presented itself in front of them. ​ Socially calibrated yet also interesting guys are relatively difficult to come by: hence why a) so many guys are single and b) so many marriages... end in divorce. ​ What generally happens is that guys shag up with women, then the guy lets his guard down, relaxes a little bit too MUCH... and then ulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:38 AM
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In parking lots, she’s right. That’s super uncalibrated and CREEPY AF. It’s a security risk. It’s stalker/ish geez
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:13 AM
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Of course, but they should learn how to do it properly and do it in a calibrated way,
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:12 AM
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Umm… they STILL IDENTIFY as female! Geez lol I did think of that but it doesn’t resolve the tautology lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:08 AM
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What’s a female woman? 🤔 As distinct from a non female woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:08 AM
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I don’t recall seeing any evidence of 86,000 men using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:31 PM
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Agree completely about external state of the world being a reflection of people’s psychological inner state.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:33 AM
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Ironically enough… it (his silly profile name?) also doesn’t make any of his advice less useful. That was my whole point to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:57 PM
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I’m honestly too busy with more important things to have looked into it that deeply. My one was… it’s only a profile handle. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:31 PM
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Not sure whether it’s ever occurred to you but…. whether advice IS actual good or bad comes down to whether it works not what someone’s social media handle is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:24 PM
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It’s obviously meant for guys who are physically disadvantaged. Overcoming that physical disadvantage will require a lot of game.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:57 PM
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I’ve never witnessed what you’re talking about with women responding to “stupid” openers. I’m also not what exactly stupid means in your context or specifically HOW stupid we’re talking about. But I’ve personally used Tinder a ton. And a LOT of women just won’t respond to boring ass shit like “Hi” /hey/how are you? Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:16 AM
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Agree completely. But just because someone else or a lot of people do it, doesn’t meant it’s useful or effective. What people aren’t considering when they THINK they’re “leveraging” AI for things like this is that it only serves to contribute much further to already profound problem of the trending atrophy of the average person’s social skills. My point is this: what will people DO when their date optimiser gets them 5 dates per week yet they can’t make these dates “convert” once they actually m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:05 AM
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People have already been doing it since last year using ChatGPT to generate Tinder chat openers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:46 AM
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Cool. I guess you’ve heard my consideration in detail 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:56 PM
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Definitely not. What I’m saying is actually that there are certain traits that will make a person of either biological sex attractive sexually and this traits will be appealing to a lot but obviously never ALL of people in both sexes. A lot guys seem to really like my butt. Women like it as well, even though unless they’re trans, they don’t have a cock to f*** me with. Also both men and women seem to find a large dick attractive provided that the skin is young and healthy. It’s things like that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:44 PM
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Yeah I guess I can see that you’ve attempted to clarify yourself but you’ve also indicated that you’re straight so you wouldn’t have any experience with what you’re commenting on. And I’ve met heterosexual women, bisexual guys and gay guys who’ve been attracted to me (enough to fuck me and make out with me?). I’ve also been told I look nice even by some women who said they’re lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:11 PM
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That’s you not me lol. Where does say in the group rules that only straight people are allowed on here??? lol if they do change the rules to that, I might leave anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:33 PM
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They’re the BEST judges of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:24 PM
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Of course not. No means no. Also, you should love yourself so much that if they say no at first, even if THEY pursued you back after changing their mind, they’d have their work cut out for them to change your mind. You wouldn’t (shouldn’t) just take them back without question, without making them work for it and EARN your interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:22 PM
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My partner and I don’t conform to them much except that my partner is very kind and helps a TON with housework because she’s understanding of my fatigue issues. I have medical conditions. Autism can be draining to deal with on the commute to work and actually AT work. But apart from that, we absolutely both consider ourselves to be the “breadwinner” and we both try to make as much money as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:31 PM
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Well. I’ve gained more fat than I’ve ever had in over a decade… but that only makes me just not “ripped” because I have a fast metabolism. So right now, my body type is slim (177cm or 5 feet 9 and 75kg) with a fit shape and healthy amount of muscle but still a very “smooth” texture and look on top of my muscles as a result of gaining fat. I’m bisexual. I get women smiling at me. One yesterday was blushing a lot whilst smiling. But I also get a lot of guys on Grindr wanting to meet up like instan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:28 PM
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It doesn’t happen to me… I just get kiss zoned 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:59 PM
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That’s true, it doesn’t: but the research and biology itself does… 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:46 PM
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I think you’re definitely in the minority with thinking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:21 PM
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It’s very easy to explain. Women crave emotional connection. And most guys don’t know how to build one with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:09 PM
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Ok well, that “call me” thing was weird (hence why I’m throwing it back…) even AS a joke lol. 🙄🤔 Btw… it’s cool. Even if you did… I’d still play hard to get and make you work for it 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:15 AM
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It depends how LONG they make me wait. Waiting only happened when I was much younger and SUPER clueless about how to physically escalate… Believe it or not… my current partner just liked me A LOT and literally kissed me while I was cat napping on her bed with the flu. Sometimes if someone likes you enough they’ll do big things! lol. You don’t change anyone’s VIEW about you and them sexually. You change their FEELING about you. I had an ex once in 2016 who actually ASKED me, at my place on my cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:11 AM
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Lol. If you’re for real you know what to do 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:49 AM
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100% true! And I’ve honestly had some of the most intense amazing ones by myself lol. Penetrative sex just makes me feel desirable and validated. And caters to imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:05 AM
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What’s n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:05 AM
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Cool. Well yeah, I’m an experienced “cold approacher”, done thousands in both and night settings and I was once told by a middle aged woman that I “shouldn’t be approaching random women in the street”. Well excuse me but… SOME women actually think I’m good looking/handsome/hot, I’ve been told exactly that a ton of times AND… she can’t and had no right to speak FOR (on behalf of?) other women she doesn’t even know. Plus to top it all off… SOME of my day time cold approaches have had absolutely fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:02 AM
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What does “zoomer” mean??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:12 AM
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Disagree ENTIRELY. But I can see why a dramatic before and after pic like the above… would be compelling and convincing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:32 PM
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Because the men are desperate. And jealous of a woman’s appeal by having a pretty face, long hair, and everything else that’s physically f***able. So you’re saying that below 10 years old women were showing interest in you? I mean yeah if you’re being called handsome at around that age, that’s a great sign but it’s not interest as in sexual interest. I agree with you overall though that guys on here should try to get over how much more sexually appealing the average woman is than the average man…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:49 PM
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You’ll say this as long as you believe it I’m sure. However they are some nuances at play that make the whole situation so much more complex. Guys generally DO behave in more attractive and socially fluent ways when they’ve recently had very enjoyable sex. The opposite is largely true as well. Guys on forums for men who’ve never ever had sex tend to exhibit indicators of an extremely concerning mindset towards women and also themselves. It’s usually themselves first though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:05 PM
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Basically: 1) looks max through style in general, better clothes, build a physique, experiment with different hairstyles 2) learn flirting especially push pull. And learn to actually have a sense of humour 3) expose yourself socially (not physically in relation to clothes!) to a broader range of social activities eg take a few short courses I personally want to learn videography and electronic music production at my city’s community college. They have 8 week courses
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:25 PM
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I’ll tell you where they are: They’re inside men’s brains 🧠, specifically in the same area of the brain that both labels women who have as much seed as they want as “hoes” and also… the same part of the brain that performs cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:59 AM
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Not all men are red pillers. I’m not. And I want my partner to succeed in her career and make more money than she’s making now, a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:47 AM
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All good. Whether they actually wanna be “nice” or not… being nasty and vindictive isn’t gonna get them ANY closer to getting laid. If they were actually one of the ones who made UP that “body count”, they probably wouldn’t be bitter at all about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:50 AM
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Which name? My handle of “whitehack” or hoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:24 AM
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You’re missing the point. But that’s your right…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:24 AM
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Glad we agree on that. That was exactly my point. Also I don’t the term should be used whether someone’s a lady OR a woman. It’s still disrespectful and nasty either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:23 AM
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I’ve told the boys off for this as well, in my comment above. It’s not nice and it’s not ok. I’ve had my sources of frustration with women as all, as a guy with both social anxiety and autism and I still don’t approve of women being spoken of in rude ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:49 AM
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Can we please use nicer language when talking about the ladies? Than h03???? I get that they communicate in really cryptic ways for guys like me who unfortunately want to all boys high school but seriously… perspective change? We’re talking about the same group of human beings that have birth to us. At the very least. Men and women both enjoy orgasms and being desired by another person. It doesn’t make anyone a three letter word. It makes them healthy enough to have properly functioning nerve en…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:47 AM
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Actually, the “natural” is a term used in the pickup community to mean basically a more technical (skill focused?) version of the term Chad. So they’re almost completely identical. Chads are basically the manosph3re term for naturals OR… as you said, guys who’ve most naturally got it social skill wise. Also I felt right after I wrote my first comment earlier that I might have been coming across as a little bit condescending. Not my intention. But to give you another example of what I mean by bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:40 AM
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Man… SOOO many false dichotomies on this group it’s no wonder some of you guys struggle. In case the specific location of the dichotomy isn’t quite obvious yet… naturally attractive normally means… handsome. One other thing possibly worth pointing out… you can ask the question that you did: as long as you realise at some point that it’s virtually entirely academic. IF you actually learn good flirting and attraction (flirting per se is really only a small PART of it, physical touch eg making out,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:01 AM
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I never ever said that and if that’s what written by any chance it must be a typo because I WOULD never say that on purpose. You’re trolling. Which means you’re a coward. Hey guess what…throwing taunts and other attacks from behind a screen and keyboard is an easy way to feel powerful. But we both know you’re too scared and probably too weak to challenge me in real life. So go away if you don’t have anything constructive to add.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:20 AM
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You’d need to actually have social skills especially flirting skills. And then physical escalation skills. And if you do, you can have succeed without having a consistent social life. You can stop and start as you please if you have those.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:10 AM
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Apparently it makes him the same as overweight lmao 🤣 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:56 AM
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You might have perhaps found some kind of data that SEEMS like it supports this notion but I think you’re forgetting that all the sub 5 feet 11 big Hollywood actors, Mark Wahlberg, Tom Cruise being the shortest, but Brad Pitt is only 5 10… once upon a time, that too had no STATUS. They weren’t born as Hollywood stars. Also I’m only 5 feet 9 and I’m happy with my height but I’ve also been told by hundreds of people that I’m good looking. So really, I think ugly is the only only real ugly. Maybe u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:55 AM
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Yeah well you’ve got some fair points. But still, what I’m I supposed to do? Think for 5 days every single time, write down ideas with pen and paper brainstorming for 5 minutes per woman per conversation and then go with the best idea to open with out of the 10 ideas I generated? Look, don’t get me wrong, I get what you’re saying about the huge volume women deal with. All I’m saying is… sometimes… you just can’t actually think of anything to say except something generic and low effort openers. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:40 AM
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You’re asking how to get over it? There’s only accepting it. That’s all there is. Women just have higher sexual market value for everyone. A lot of women are bisexual and they’d probably rather have sex with an attractive other woman than with most men. It’s just reality. 🤷 Also I think it’s really bitter when guys refer to women on an attractiveness scale as anything less than an 8. It’s partly the way you’re wording it. “She’s cute but… she like a 6”, as though so to mean she’s nothing amazing…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:19 AM
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Oh ok. Well fair enough. It’s admirable that you’ve got higher standards than most people hold themselves to. Personally I just don’t care anymore because it’s happened so many times on tinder and we’re talking dating all the way back to 2013 when I actually had 200-300 matches. Yet somehow even though they’re attracted to me enough to match with… they’re not quite attracted enough to reply to a simple “Hi” Now some people might say I should put in more effort than that or come up with some inve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:05 AM
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Agreed completely but people still don’t even owe it to you to not be a shitty person Also, I don’t know whether you’re a girl or a guy here but women do get their phones blowing up a lot more so it’s actually not the same as genuinely being “a shitty person”. It’s called, potentially that is, “forgetting”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:54 PM
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I did say for anyone yes. It does go both ways. But you then need to make sure that they consent to being pumped and dumped and then discarded. Separate issue from ghosting per se but still an important if you want to avoid sexual assault charges. If they weren’t aware they were going to be objectified and then they get a shock when they going out they have been, then they can motivate a lot of anger. It’s not how I do things. Ghosting is an of itself isn’t immoral but misleading someone in orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:51 PM
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Ghosting is never immoral for ANYONE to do. No one OWES you anything including company.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:26 PM
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Several and it was a great experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:12 PM
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It’s happened to me a few times. But it still rarely happens even to guys who it happens to like me. I’ve never actually gotten laid off it directly but I used to be best friends with a guy who did once and it started by her asking him for directions, at the train station and then 2 hours later they were in bed f***ing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:07 PM
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No you don’t get it. You’re just presumptuous about thinking you get it. I’ve stared at both men and women and no one has ever attacked me… or called me a creep. Probably because in most cases, I just tell them they were staring or looking at me first. Then that puts them on the defensive. But you seem like an a55hole. So congratulations 👏🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:02 PM
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Well you kind of deviated from your own social experiment a bit but YES what you said is possible although again, you were talking originally about simply find two GUYS to stare at. I don't see how that's going to result in a woman calling you a creep? Unless you stare a woman... AND she happens to know a guy who's up to the task. ​ I think I'm confident I can handle myself physically. People seem to be a lot more ready to throw attacks online than in person. It's called cowardice lol. It's a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:09 PM
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Yeah I did but isn't that what you stepped in momentarily for? To "break it up, you two"? I mean I was just responding to what she said. If someone's gonna smack talk to me, it's necessary to do it back to show them you won't take it passively. That said, yes I reported it... every instance of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:17 PM
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Before you lost your confidence? Which was as a result of? It’s ok if you don’t wanna say. Ok…I have to be honest now: I’m autistic and EVEN I don’t get upset/mad at women looking at me if I can figure out that there’s a high probability “they ACTUALLY thought I’m attractive”. Interesting perspective. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:58 AM
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Seriously... it may be hard for you to understand but... you're extremely rude and sadistic and most likely, hell wouldn't accept you (what Michael Myers doctor, Dr Loomis, says about HIM...).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:34 AM
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What's a female space? Your answer: anywhere where a woman happens to BE that very second. Meaning... as soon as a woman walks into the gym... EVERY GUY has to leave (to "avoid" women, as you said) 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:32 AM
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Can you tell that to the previous person who initiated it? The person who used the words “ugly ass” first? That’s a quotation btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:10 AM
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Sorry but did you seriously… ONLY JUST… figure that out?? Wow. It’s like the equivalent of when one of us autistics are thrown completely by a text only sarcastic statement. “Ohhhh I GET IT now”. So you sound like you obviously really dislike people with autism. How do you even know WHO’S ass is uglier… yours probably is 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:05 AM
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How is social isolation a miserable way to live? Do you really have no answers to that of your own???
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:01 AM
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Friends? You mean fights lol. Yeah I’m not stupid geez. Mind you I’ve done a LOT of those types of social experiments and my own eye contact is typically quite brief UNLESS someone specifically does something that makes me feel threatened which is an obviously valid reason to observe someone more closely (and obviously when their back is turned so that you’re not conveying to them through eye contact that you’re eyeballing them).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:01 AM
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Right but the point is that zero eye contact is not sustainable or practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:57 AM
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Being embarrassed? Are you being serious? The problem is being told off for staring. It could get more serious than just FEELING embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:57 AM
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Yes exactly I agree. But again, all I’m saying is that if you look at recent events, it’s possibly the way things are heading ie eventually we’ll be unable to safely make ANY eye contact with women because the definition of staring, according to someone else on this thread, is ANYTHING more than 1-2 seconds. Now what can happen is: that can REDUCE progressively over time simply through women becoming progressively more and more UNCOMFORTABLE with men as a group. Eventually, the more women become…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:56 AM
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Sure, all of that makes sense and I’m not saying and never said that maintaining awareness of surroundings is an excuse for staring. What I’m saying instead is that if you watch several of these recent gym drama videos, upon carefully reviewing, and looking more closely, it becomes obvious that the guy was literally gazing in a prolonged way off beyond the woman. Like if you look closely and properly at the image in the video, it’s clear as night from day that that the dudes eyes literally weren…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:47 AM
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Ok sure. That does sound reasonable. So basically staring is significantly longer than 2 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:23 AM
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Ok you clearly have a problem here with facing reality OR just basic English: a false accusation is if someone makes an accusation where the person it’s directed towards DIDN’T actually DO it. Pretty basic really. It’s happened plenty of times. It’s not like it’s some kind of FOREVER HYPOTHETICAL… In most cases… yeah that’s called ignoring the data. So you’re basically saying that ALL guys stare… at gyms? Look Miss. The SPECIFIC part where it’s false is this: the other day I was just arriving at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:13 AM
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So just out of interest, so that we’re clearer, what’s your own personal definition, as a specific number of seconds for when “staring” begins? Is it 1 second? Half a second? You’ve already said it’s not the same as eye contact. But that it’s prolonged. So now…what’s defined as prolonged? Half a second???? I’m being serious. No offence but seriously, you guys (The ladies that is…) are the ones: 1) actually videoing dudes instead of actually focusing on your own exercising 2) post editing videos …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:06 AM
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Well I get all of what you’re saying but I’m a human being as well and I was bullied in high school and that’s obviously scarred me and whilst I do grant that your suggestions are very rational, when you’re suddenly stressed out by something you’re going to potentially sing very likely feel very threatened. I mainly felt insulted because the accusation implies that I’m a pervert and it now seems like women are just obsessed with trying to cast men in that light for things that aren’t even clearl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:00 AM
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You said you “looked for” him. It just sounds like you’re SEARCHING for him by going for DAMN WALK. Like in my head I’m thinking “whoa, maybe STAY AWAY and DON’T go NEAR this weirdo???”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:52 AM
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But yeah… I get the joke now. But like I said.. with no photos on Reddit, why would I doubt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:50 AM
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Not my fault to not know that you’re not actually trans dude. If I question or doubt that…then I can also be accused of “assuming someone’s gender” or being transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:49 AM
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Ok so… it’s just kind of confusing how you end your sentences with this sarcastic narcissism comment because it kind of interrupts what the main point is. But yeah I see what you mean. And I’m not saying there’s no such thing as creepy men, but women have basically EXPANDED their “range” detection to simple a MAN… actually… BEING ANYWHERE near them and breathing and being ALIVE. That’s still how it comes across, because in my experience, I’m not seeing women being stalked or harassed ON A DAILY …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:48 AM
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So you’re saying running a van is something that’s scary? Just because… oh yeah… that’s right, Ted Bundy was actually alive and doing what he said… DECADES ago? So because of that, your mom NOTICED this sign of danger that was… a VAN??? Sorry but you haven’t said ANYTHING else about the van so YES that’s a bit HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:44 AM
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Ok. Again, there’s something just a bit confusing about how you’re wording this. “I saw him looking everywhere”. So if he’s looking… EVERYWHERE… not just at YOU, that’s probably not staring? I’m not concluding, just asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:41 AM
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Right sorry but, the part where you’re looking for the other person is the part where you’re casting yourself as pursuing them back. Not sure if that was your INTENTION but you’re using “narcissistic drama” ridiculously frequently as sarcasm, yeah even with my autism, it hasn’t eluded ME lol… But if someone’s creeping ME out I’m telling you right now I’m not GONNA LOOK FOR them geez…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:38 AM
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So is ANY amount of being aware of who’s in your surroundings by using eyesight somehow perverted? You clearly don’t realise how absurd and ridiculous that sounds! We’re not talking about staring here. We’re talking about FALSE accusations of that… 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:35 AM
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So is ANY amount of being aware of who’s in your surroundings by using eyesight somehow perverted? You clearly don’t realise how absurd and ridiculous that sounds! We’re not talking about staring here. We’re talking about FALSE accusations of that… 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:34 AM
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Oh yeah, the why is OBVIOUSLY completely rational 🙄 🤔 because SOME men have harassed SOME women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:33 AM
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What’s the delusion? That women are out to destroy men in every possible way, socially at least?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:32 AM
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No I didn’t. Because I’m just hearing you fictionalise hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:26 AM
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And you’re gonna do the same? And not look at us as men? lol ok 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:25 AM
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What you just said makes no sense because it’s blatantly contradictory. Sorry but … it just is? Like you’re saying that CIS women’s accusations against you go discarded. But you’re saying for US to check our CIS privilege? Aren’t you the one here with some kind of advantage and therefore “privilege”? Sorry if that’s too logical… 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:24 AM
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Sure so you walked away and probably a good move considering how it happened but in my case I’m waiting for the ferry, nothing further happened but hey, it was 2003, maybe women were less CONVINCED back then? If I backed out of catching the ferry I’d be late for university. So you handled yours well. But honestly, I see this whole thing getting really out of hand in different ways both slowly and rapidly at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:21 AM
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Well sorry to have to be blunt now but being allegations isn’t a simple thing. Like seriously, it’s common sense: literally the ONLY WAY to “beat the allegations” would be thought control, because once the general public has found opinions and CONVICTED BELIEFS, that is beliefs held firmly with strong conviction, reputation damage can be done so quickly, it sticks in peoples memories stubbornly and persistently and takes a lot of evidence to get rid of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:17 AM
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Has everyone who’s ever told me (easily a hundred people by now..) that I’m handsome being lying to me? Obviously you can’t tell without seeing me but you get my point surely. I’ve been told I’m handsome a lot of times. Somehow I don’t think anyone’s immune to this. What if I’m not the right TYPE of handsome? There’s no version of handsome that every single woman is into. See I do everything you’ve said but it’s a miserable way to live tbh. Like it just wholesale removes a ton of social interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:14 AM
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Agreed completely. OR… just stop CARING about being LOOKED at maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:09 AM
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Luckily I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:08 AM
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Yeah exactly it’s gone mad. Like if it’s purposefully meant comically then yeah ok lol But even without ever having that ridiculous suggestion made to me, even years ago, I already found myself weirdly doing this thing where I’ll race ahead, with a few metres between me and a women on the footpath, going AROUND her, just in order to get in FRONT of her so that I physically can’t possibly be “following” her. I’m going to be honest here and not lie any longer and just say straight up: I actually f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:08 AM
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Sure but even THEY could make this laughable false accusations. The world now…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:53 AM
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So you see… I was being facetious and deliberately creating irony by phrasing, as COMPLETELY serious suggestion, that WE as men take responsibility for what is really just women somehow, and weirdly, COMBINING both paranoia AND narcissism. I remember literally as far back (people seriously THINK this sh1t is RECENT? Just wait and see what comes next…) as 2003. I’d barely turned 18. Barely finished being legally a boy. I was catching the ferry ⛴ to university in Sydney from Taronga Zoo. I was tex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:52 AM
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I’m definitely not having DIFFICULTY agreeing with what you’ve said here…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:37 AM
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I didn’t change my story because I never said she she asked me to go away. I said I refused to leave… because she said NOTHING aka ignored me. Well, when it’s a loud nightclub, there could be a difficulty in being heard. Saying I refused to walk away isn’t the same as saying SHE TOLD/asked me leave. You either misread or didn’t read fully. If she asked me to leave I’d leave. I have no desire to talk to someone who has stated clearly they don’t want to talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:24 AM
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No she didn’t. I’ve already stated that several times in fact. She said nothing. Saying nothing in words isn’t the same thing as saying “go away”. As I said.. I’ve clarified several times that she said NOTHING. And in case you haven’t noticed? You weren’t there. What an odd detail to miss that if you weren’t there, you’re probably limited in how much you can comment on what each person DID. Instead of asking questions, you’re basically rewriting the event fictionally. 😂 great stuff 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:16 AM
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Except that I’ve also been ass slapped (sexual assault??!!!?) by a random woman in another night club… so really, that starts to make it LOOK a lot like women JUST WANT TO CONTROL the power dynamic of consent. Mind you… to clarify: 1) I approached a girl…on the Gold Coast, tried to start a convo, DIDN’T touch her in any way… and got a drink flicked in my face… wow 2) Meanwhile, back in SYDNEY… I’m in another nightclub and get randomly ass slapped… WITHOUT ANY conversation OR me indicating consen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:42 AM
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Yeah get lost thanks. I didn’t TOUCH anyone here so that part about getting prematurely handsy is just BS. Seriously get lost
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:36 AM
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Nope that’s not what I said and I’m not gonna re-explain everything for people who can’t read or just can’t be bothered reading
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:34 AM
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How is talking to someone doing something to them? It’s not against the law to a) talk to someone b) check that they HEARD you in a loud night club where they might not have I certainly didn’t flick any drink at her which she did in fact to me. So you’re almost delusional if you’re trying to convince yourself of who did what in an event that you’re even present at.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:47 AM
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That’s an extreme comparison with someone telling me to “persist… a little bit” and I wasn’t there for an extended amount of time. I tried to get a response 3-4 times because MOST people don’t just say absolute nothing. You’re trying but failing pathetically to paint what I did in a malicious light when it wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:35 AM
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Well I didn’t so that’s one less excuse. All I said was “hi how’s your night going?” If that’s annoying then you should have a better idea or shut the fuck it… NO OFFENSE (said as sarcastically as you said it to me you asshole)..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:10 AM
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And again I’ll just emphasise: To really hammer home my point: I’ve been told by many women who’ve actually gotten to know me “you’re a nice guy/nice PERSON” I’ve been told by DOZENS of women that I’m good looking I have AUTISM/Asperger’s > I’m actually diagnosed. I also have ADHD. I’ve battled with depression repeatedly I’ve approached thousands of women to work on my conversational skills I’ve even done YEARS of public speaking with Toastmasters I’ve tried numerous supplements for managing anx…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:25 AM
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Well let’s see: 1) sorry you’re not my type, I prefer guys with bigger muscles > we can then CHOOSE whether we want to CONFORM to that or not 2) you need to work on your conversational skills > any REASONABLE person would look up on Google ways to do that 3) your body language isn’t the best when you approached if guys don’t want to HEAR these feedback points then YES they absolutely deserve to PROBABLY never laid. But I’m just telling you, you have no idea what I DID to work on myself, the copi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:20 AM
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Not all human beings respond to criticism with anger. Also there’s a tactful WAY of expressing feedback. The whole concept of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is to give ACTIONABLE feedback. The term “criticism” is just a misnomer and poor choice of words which like many poor choices of words just happens to have gained traction. No one’s going to be pissed off about being told in a respectful way WHAT to do to BE MORE ATTRACTIVE. That’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:07 AM
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In fact I’m just gonna vent and say…. Women are vicious and sadistic. They enjoy rejecting men who aren’t their perfect “type”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:41 PM
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Yes I approached her. No she didn’t ask. Obviously it’s POTENTIALLY going to be confusing WHY A DEAF women would be in a night club…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:35 PM
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I’m astonished that YOU’RE sorry! Nothing directed at you personally but every single OTHER person replying to my comment just wants to blame me for harassing someone when really, no one was holding a gun to her head forcing her to STAY where she was so she could have left. Honestly, I’ve approached THOUSANDS of women and I don’t feel like SOCIALISING anymore AT ALL. That’s how awful the experience was. It’s a long list tbh. But some women would be proud as hell about it. Amazing really. And wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:34 PM
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No. Whether or not you know what you’re talking about LOGICALLY has nothing to do with someone ELSE’S experiences and everything to do with whether your ADVICE works which it doesn’t. Like I said… which you’re deliberately choosing to ignore, you can persist past green lights. So that obviously goes against you’re advice to “never persist”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:13 PM
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You can’t read? I’ve explained with several paragraphs above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:59 PM
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I agree. But tell that to the people who told me that. Why wouldn’t a woman make it “easy” for you as a man? No I’m serious. That’s a question. Well ONE reason is if she’s deliberately playing games, leading you on and is a narcissist. I wasn’t trying to convince anyone to like me. The other thing that’s extremely misleading is the concept of a “shit test”. The event I described in the night club happened YEARS ago in 2008. So obviously some details will be fuzzy. But guys ARE told in the pickup…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:57 PM
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As I said, if I realised it’s harassment I definitely wouldn’t have knowingly continued realising that. I was told misleadingly that I need to start conversations and it was the ONLY way for me to build my social skills. Obviously it’s going to be an extremely rough journey when: a) psychologists won’t ever set foot outside their consultation room with you to actually OBSERVE how your problems crop up and what form they take socially b) the ONLY guidance you ever got was to “be persistent” AND y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:33 PM
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If I realised it was harassment I wouldn’t have done it. But really, I had every right to be there as much as she did. Why can’t she walk away?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:30 PM
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u/catfishchapter I see your point. But I think you need to consider just how toxic and rude SOME women are. I had a drink flicked in my face at a night club… just because I refused to walk away from a young woman I’d been chatting to. I didn’t touch her. What she did to ME though was assault. These types of experiences need to a) never happen and b) stop already The domestic violence problem is also massively misrepresented as “men are always just out of control and need nearly no real provocati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:20 PM
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No it doesn’t. But that’s a typical moron response on this sub I’ve noticed…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:09 PM
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It’s not about lowering your standards. Until I read that part, I actually agreed with your title. But lowering your standards only leads you to bring the SAME old desperate needy vibe to LESS attractive women and those are no more “easy” in fact they’re harder to hookup with since they’re hyper validated because most OTHER guys also see them as the low hanging fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:43 PM
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I can’t tell you from firsthand experience. I’m not one of them 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:18 PM
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More importantly…? Why are they so pathetic as they date women they’re… NOT attracted to instead of ones who they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:16 AM
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I need to get up to speed on the “two main views” 🤔 All I really know for certain is: I’m good looking and I get told this often… by my partner’s friends… I still feel anxious towards attractive women probably because I experienced rejection from them in the past and really, in fairness, they have no idea what it feels like to be repeatedly told “I’m not interested/I have a boyfriend/no”. social skills and especially FLIRTING skills makes a massive MASSIVE difference… so much bigger then most pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:56 AM
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Most likely not. That’s based on knowing him for… gee, 2007-2018? So 11 years. You didn’t define “fat” though. I think some chubby women are hot. It really depends on the individual. Facial structure. Bone structure. Muscle structure. Specifically where fat is held/stored most. The reason I say that is that I’ve hooked up with a number of “fat girls” and one in particular, really cool chick and nice person, convo flowed naturally, but I just couldn’t get hard literally because her body shape was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:52 AM
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I used to have a friend who once said that girls/women are, on average, or have been over recent decades, getting prettier. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:33 AM
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Yeah I guess the further away you are from that level of stupidity… the harder it gets to empathise with and even just conceive of how that’s possible. But I see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:27 AM
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Why would they do that??? As if someone would ever do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:39 PM

Where have all the hot men gone? Same place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:37 PM
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That assumes that you’re aware that the supposed rapid in front of you IS one. What you’re saying could easily happen with well meaning people, who don’t want to condemn an innocent person, when the person’s guilt or innocence hasn’t been proven yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:25 PM
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Is Aba meant to be ABA (an acronym)?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:22 PM
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With any guy? Not with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:09 PM
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I’m bi also and I know exactly what you said. I get a ton of matches. MOST can’t be bothered messaging me first. Will hello fellas… I happen to have… A LOT of these matches. Do you guys really expect ME to do that enormous amount of work of messaging every SINGLE one of you??? I actually do message SOME of them but we’re talking a number getting over 100 easily at some point. As if ONE person is gonna do all the messaging. Also… even the least attractive guys seem to have a huge problem with act…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:37 AM
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Well see it's interesting what you're saying and it seems like a VERY individual thing. I'm not single. And I get sex whenever I want (even if not with my partner?) BUT... I do have literally zero social life and THAT is the part where I agree with this theory of yours of "social atomisation" and people just overall being more... insular. ​ As it is, I'm currently working security for events (at night) and so I'm working at the exactly same time as anyone with a social life is normally... social…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:39 PM
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Key word here is MOST men's low standards for sex. MINE aren't low (waiting for trolls to come running in... and ready to stand my ground lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:53 PM
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My partner is a total extrovert compared to me, it's like chalk and cheese, the difference is just dramatic personality wise in terms of interacting with people socially. I basically need to be running a service based business (coaching/consulting/teaching English language etc) to force me to get outta the house. ​ As a result, she has an absolute ton of friends and I seem to learn of new ones all the time that she's known from way back. She's just a lot more social than I am. And less fatigued.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:15 AM
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Oh 100%, I've had a LOT of variety since then, trust me, from an ex who BOUGHT me outright not only cooking pots and pans but even a Dyson vacuum cleaner. Seems like her love language and ENTIRE language was... money? 🤔😂 we're on better terms at least more respectful of each other now than the other one I mentioned: but we're still not gonna f***. And I'm completely fine with that. ​ Those were both my longest standing long term relationships though. And everything since then has been much short…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:11 AM
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Relationships only end for a very good reason. Typically when they do end, it's usually because whatever conflict has arisen somehow overpowers or trumps the attraction that brought the two people together as partners to begin with. ​ To answer your question more directly, YES of course the attraction can still be there BUT oftentimes women will strongly and powerfully suppress it and trust me when I say it never takes on a good "form" when they do that, even to the point where it's almost impos…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:26 PM
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Right... BUT... in regards to your last sentence... the reason why feminism hasn't provided an alternative is because... quite frankly "it" (as both a movement AND a group of people really) couldn't give a f*** and IF possible, they'd probably give even less of a f*** and much harder (more harshly if there were a WAY to) lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:18 PM
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Disagree COMPLETELY! Being a provider is numerically (monetarily) constrained within parameters: at SOME point, you'll meet both your AND your partner's needs and wants (from a lifestyle and luxuries point of view). ​ Trying to fit into attractiveness ideals, as a woman, is NOT easy at all. That's why they spend HOURS both putting on make up AND trying and split testing clothing pairs against each other when I personally, as a guy, would just look inside my wardrobe and grab whatever looks comfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:57 PM
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Maybe. OR... just match up with an Asian (or whatever other non Western?) lady who's come to America (or UK or Australia). My partner is Thai. My old supervisor's (previous workplace) partner is Vietnamese. In his own words: "you just don't get any respect from Aussie/Caucasian women"... obviously an off the cuff comment and not to be taken entirely literally but whilst it's on the one hand a huge generalisation, there's also a HUGE element of truth in there: feminism HAS in fact encourage women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:54 PM
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Agreed: except that when you already HAVE number 1) and then develop number 2) traits (intelligence, humour and wit/overall sense of "fun", then the person who only has number 2) category of traits simply can't compete: as it's an unfair advantage to have BOTH.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:22 PM
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Not sure if you mean... that you tried to explain a) your second hand version of my attempt at explaining the phenomenon of pretty privilege (simply being advantaged socially, even at baseline, all other factors controlled for, due to being physically attractive) OR b) simply the phenomenon itself... without referring to the way I personally explained it. ​ I'll admit that maybe I'm not perfect at explaining things but I'd have a better chance if what I've said isn't being passed on as second ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:33 AM
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Alright then 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:30 AM
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Sorry that I triggered you. Not my intention. And no, I've received enough validation about my looks. ​ It's ok. I've found someone. I'm not single :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:22 PM
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The phrase is "scraping" not scrapping. ​ Give sources? Yeah I could but I didn't realise it was "essential". There have been studies done on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:22 AM
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It's all completely subjective. People will disagree on the exactly number either by a small or large amount. ​ Bisexual people will obviously have a tendency to have a higher body count due to have sex with more than one cis gender that is. If someone is pansexual, then that will increase even more. If you're bisexual/pansexual, it's not hard at all to get a body count up to over 30 between both cis men and women you've been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:01 AM
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I actually wrote a post that touches on this mildly, earlier today: it's about how physically attractive the guy is. The hotter the guy is, the younger (within a range of 20 years old upwards obviously...) the guy can date younger women. ​ If a guy is average or below physical attractiveness in the face AND overweight AND far below average overall skin health, then really, he's generally and unfortunately it WILL feel unfair, going to be looked on poorly for dating or trying to date women much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:09 AM
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Of course inner confidence is "quiet" and silent on the inside but it's what it enables you to DO that other people can observe that counts, which, in social situations at least, happens to be... self expression. ​ If you ARE genuinely internally confident, then you absolutely won't feel withdrawn from initiating conversations OR responding adequately when other people initiate them with you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 05:29 AM
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Thanks for filling me in. I'm now clearer on how this audience perceives their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:38 AM
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Yeah I see what you mean now. And yes it's about looks but again, if anyone reads what I've actually said, I've acknowledged the role of both social skills/charisma AND looks but that doesn't mean either one cancels the other OUT. ​ Cool. Glad we're on the same page, you and I at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:23 AM
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Sorry to have to break it to you but... even LESS attractive women will still "sense" your desperation if that's the place you're coming from. ALSO bear in mind that they'll be "hyper validated" because they're often considered "low hanging fruit" by guys who assume that they're "easier" just because they're less attractive. Doesn't work that way. As a result of being approached more often due to being less intimidating, they become desensitised to the SAME ways of being approached again and aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:12 AM
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Exactly. That's exactly what I mean and if two guys learn the SAME or roughly the same amount of social skills beyond that they already had (and lacked...), then the good looking guy compared to the average or unattractive guy will always get EASIER and faster results.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:02 AM
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No it's not. I'll be firm about maintaining that. If that's honestly what you think then you must have just not read everything I said. ​ My point is that looks make a DIFFERENCE and a significant one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:00 AM
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Well then I'm guessing people who say that probably also automatically are suggesting, sadly enough... that men who can barely attract any women at all... are accordingly barely IN any league it's that bad. Ouch
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:35 PM
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I can tell you right now, it's not about his height as much as he thinks. And if he does have an above average attractiveness face, then really it's all going to come down to ONE thing: his ability and inability to express himself freely and in a fun way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:44 PM
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Very good points. Hadn't thought about this until now. ​ And yes to number 7 especially... absolutely NO way anyone in their right mind would ever move back there especially with the chaos still going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 12:31 PM
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It's Tate-ism. That's the new name for the hypocrisy. It's also not necessary for attracting women. ​ It really doesn't matter. It's a complete illusion. There's nothing wrong with someone wanting to have sex with different people and it doesn't at all corrupt someone. It's simply an ideal and if anything is kind of reminiscent of a religion that Andrew Tate reportedly even converted to: 1slam... Isn't that where 70 whatever virgins are prized? I think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:36 AM
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More than 80% of men are having semi-regular sex (US) and more than 70% are having regular sex, virginity is still lost on average the 17th year (same as in decades prior) and by the 25th year over 90% of men have lost their virginity, so no, there is no "monumental rise". ​ Whilst I do agree with your point about having a gf or spouse not curing loneliness especially male loneliness (which is due to lack of friends...), could we possibly have a source for your referred to statistics here? ​ I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:13 AM
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It has not come out of nowhere. It came... out of two things: ​ 1) when? The 70s... 2) WHO in and during the 70s? Gloria Steinem. She was a CIA operative who literally began the mainstream fostering of and growth of feminism. ​ Don't believe me about the CIA Steinem part? No problem. It's all here in the Chicago Tribune, clearly it's not even considered to be "worth" denying anymore and is therefore just taken as/accepted as FACT at this point. Now to be fair, feminism HAS brought about SOME ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:08 AM
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Sorry but can't hold myself back any longer... can't BELIEVE how ignorant some of these responses are. ​ HellOOOO???? ALLLLLL this "IF she's attracted to.... THEN..." Ummm. There ARE ways to create that attraction. I think that's what clueless OP's typically WANT to know. ​ Smh...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:32 AM
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"if she's attracted". ​ I think his questions IS primarily concerned WITH... what does actually "create" attraction in a woman, IS it being friends with her FIRST OR making your intentions clear? ​ For someone who doesn't know the answer like the OP wouldn't if he's asking, it's a fair question. But his question IS really asking about what sparks or creates attraction IN a woman "in the first place" (in the very early stages of knowing/ making an impression on her). ​ There ARE non creepy ways t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:30 AM
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Don't worry. I'm autistic and I figured it out years ago. It's not be only friends first. It means... build an emotional connection. THAT is the TLDR IF you are pressed on time... otherwise if not, then I've elaborated below. ​ You can DO "friend stuff" (friend type activities) but you cannot be just friends first. There are so many reasons why but just one example is: first impressions LAST. So if your first impression is a non sexual one, it's probably NOT off to the (right) start that you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:25 AM
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Depends how you read that sentence. ​ There are both more attraction women than men AND more attractive men than women. Why? ​ Simple: there are women who are more attractive than SOME men and men who are more attractive than some women. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:48 PM
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Women are people, the same as all others. ​ Some who are misandrists, I obviously want nothing to do with: until such time as they decide to treat me/us as men also like human beings. ​ But other women I've met are unbelievably kind, generous and loyal. ​ Some people are drama queens when it comes to almost deliberately misinterpreting behavior to be a sexual advance on them when it wasn't. Others are down to earth and straight up when it comes to both showing interest in men and receiving it. ​…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:10 AM
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Yes and no. ​ MGTOW as far as simply focusing on your own goals, self development and health is fantastic. ​ But trying to block women completely out of your LIFE simply won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:40 AM
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It seems pretty on the money until the last three which I think are going a bit FAR and are overall a bit silly. ​ "I have a boyfriend"? Yeah... sometimes it DOES mean they have one. Sometimes, it just means they WANT you to think that: because they're on the street maybe instead of at a party and if she walks away, there's no one ELSE to talk to as an excuse to leave you (ohh hey, I just saw this person I have to say hell to them, I haven't seen them for AGES...) ​ Attacking you with a knife? L…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:28 AM
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Well there seems to be some consensus that get means everything: have extended chats/conversations with, THEN exchange numbers with, THEN meet up and then have sex. So get was purposely meant loosely as a "catch all" the way I used it. ​ Well there you go! That next part of what you said is ALSO a KEY part of what is REAL red pill, hypergamy theory, which mind you I'm only recounting and describing to you, I didn't myself invent it as I'm sure you're aware. Yes that's correct, the very implicati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:40 AM
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That's not the only component of hypergamy, whether or NOT it's actually true. ​ The most apparent aspect of hypergamy these days is the women appear to be virtually inundated with sexual options when it comes to online dating apps whereas guys just struggle endlessly on AVERAGE... UNLESS they are the top whatever % of hot, high status etc guys in which case they tend to get roughly "80%" or whatever you wanna CALL the majority of women. ​ If you look at most women's Hinge, Tinder or Bumble they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:37 AM
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This is actually a fair point. ​ It's not so much that flirtatious behaviour IS hard to see but more just that women DO seem to have a tendency to deny that their flirtatious behavior does mean anything. ​ On the one hand, this can almost seem like a playful form of gaslighting (denying the truth about what someone's observing when it's obvious?) yet at the same time, both men AND women will agree that men aren't very good at reading nonverbal cues. Here's the problem: when we do call something …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:34 PM
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100%. Of course. I've often thought it's absurd that a lot of guys, especially Andrew Tat3 push this idea that women are "ruined" after x age or x body count of sleeping with a certain number of guys. ​ The second one is obviously blatantly misogynistic. But even the first idea that women need to be in their late teens (obviously over 18) to late 20s at LATEST is just absurd and bizarre. It's obviously a case by case basis. SOME women in their 40s are absolutely stunning, very sexy both in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:09 AM
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I would expect that. Although I'm bi/straight. Otherwise probably wouldn't be on this group...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 11:48 AM
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From my experience as a guy having been hit on by other guys a lot... it definitely doesn't work like that. It can depend on your mood a lot. If you're horny as well as the person hitting on you then it's a match. If not, then maybe you'll just be bored and unamused by it. That's just my experience of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:32 AM
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Exactly. So much speculation instead of just working on the social skills that are missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:16 AM
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See this whole comment just sounds like it's coming from a place of frustration which in itself isn't the problem but it's the WAY that you've then ampliflied that by assuming that women have a superiority complex when in reality, a LOT of women are insecure about their looks as well. It's not as one sided as a lot of guys think. Even some really hot women are insecure about their looks. There IS literally no level of physical attractiveness that will completely "immunise" ANY person either male…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:15 AM
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I find that title really unhelpful overall. ​ Can you not be polite and blunt at the same time?... Ohhhh YES OK. I just realised... that's unbelievably... SUBJECTIVE!!! lol ​ But seriously, if a guy can't "handle" the truth, then he's in essence being averse to feedback which, mind you, you simply WON'T get ANY of if ALSO at the same time want your "feelings" to be saved in the short term. ​ I've often assumed that MOST guys really would prefer to just be told the most accurate truth. Maybe I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:11 AM
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Could it be because most guys lack a lot of social skills? ​ Why would you try to prove that you're not romantically interested in a woman. Isn't simply not hitting on them enough to satisfy that "question" in their minds? ​ Do women ALWAYS reject men's advances when flirting with them OR is it only when guys do it clumsily, awkardly OR worse, in a persistent way? ​ When you say "women that look interesting... don't even reply to you because this s***...", do you mean over text or in person and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:48 AM
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Geez. Sorry BUT... WHAT A MASSIVE ASS generalisation... ​ I WAS active in the Sydney Australia based pickup community from mid 2007 to around say 2014, before my involvement kind of trailed off progressively and then since then I've only been involved with Facebook groups on social and dating success which OFTEN overlap or are affiliated and associated with GENERAL self improvement groups and guru's since improving the REST of yourself as a person has for a very LONG time been seen and in fact r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 10:31 AM
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Quite simply, there are NOT enough high value men to match with EVERY woman who thinks she's entitled to them especially when what IS considered high value seems to be progressively evolving to a higher and higher standard, then logically and necessarily, really that "pool" of the absolute creme-de-la-creme of the best of the best high value men MUST be getting a) harder and harder to mee the criteria OF and to therefore be considered worthy of being recognised as a member of it and b) ALSO as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 10:00 AM
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I have news for you in relation to that last phrase "someone they want to build a life with first"... I've been in my fair SHARE of relationships with women and am currently in one now also... I'm absolutely intending for it BE my last... because it takes a LONG time to "train" someone to live with you and believe me, THAT IS what's needed. It also takes a long time to BE trained and to learn to LIVE with THEM. It goes both ways and like I said, it's FR1GGING TIME consuming AF... ​ But the part …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:24 AM
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Because plain and simple: they DO have to put in way too much effort relative to what (as a situation and relationship) and who they’re likely to get for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:49 PM
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Many reasons, various and complex, but smartphones have had an adverse impact on social skills and etiquette as well as compassion for our fellow human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:18 PM
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Extremely high. And the stereotypes are all true. Tall, handsome, modern/in vogue Chad hairstyle and fitness model body are all an absolute must: if you want to be lover material rather than provider material. But there’s one final catch that CAN render all of that useless: you still need “game” aka... social skills and a smidget of charisma aka banter, flirting, rapport building skills and ability to touch effectively. Extremely high uncompromising relentless standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:34 PM
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“Unattractive” is always extremely subjective and many guys I’ve noticed have rated objectively moderately attractive women as plain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:39 AM
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I love this post! Those three reasons are very thoughtful!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:29 AM
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