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Women having knowledge that men can’t even perceive ? That’s preposterous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:20 AM
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I’ll just take suicide aid if it exists. I don’t want to live until I’m 90 I’ll be happy if I can go with 70 and clear senses instead of being a drain on my hypothetical family making them resent me for fucking up their life. You can say that creating a child is a selfless act and it definitely is self sacrificial but you don’t have the monopoly on sacrifice or being altruistic. There are valid reasons why someone wouldn’t want to create a child and not all of them are selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:15 AM
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Not to mention the growing resentment you can get when you actually take care of your parents in old age. I wouldn’t want my children to take care of me because I’d know that I’d be a huge strain in their life and there is no way around that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:11 AM
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So do you think it’s a womens fault for being catcalled when she walks along the street in very revealing clothing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:17 AM
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Then those people shouldn’t drink alcohol. We don’t treat drunk drivers differently. Bad luck if you can’t handle your alcohol doesn’t change anything. Guys asking further questions is just annoying and depending on the context uncalled for. I wouldn’t want to be involved in a conversation about why I don’t want to do stuff with some random guy. They can try and talk but they should back off once it is clear that there is no interest It’s not that difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:03 AM
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Oh I don’t agree with that either but it doesn’t make your parenting any better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:36 AM
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Yeah let’s put all the responsibility for the father leaving his duty on the women. If you can’t deal with having a child then use contraception you manchild
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:43 AM
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You know most people don’t consider letting your child butcher a rabbit as an achievement of good parenting or anything that contributes to a good character. Maybe it is easy for you to say that raising a good person isn’t complicated if your definition of it is completely fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:31 AM
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Yeah and create children that rather harm society than enrich it. Why is nobody talking about the quality of parents ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:28 AM
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So how is anybody else supposed to post it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:23 PM
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Why didn’t you post it ? You came here with one side of the coin trying to make an argument obviously knowing the flaw to your argument but instead of correcting it you put the responsibility in some random redditors because in the end nobody can tell you no now. If you were actually interested in the truth you would at least mirror this already flawed form of data collection. Make better arguments and people might actually contemplate your claims
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:16 AM
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It’s not necessarily about consumerism but the freedom that comes with financial independence. Red Pillers talk about this all the time. Maybe I don’t want to be in a high paying career because it’s what I would have to do to support a child nowadays. I want to be able to visit my family that lives in another country without the restrictions of school holidays. And most importantly you can’t fuck up a child if you don’t have one. The risk of my child being miserable in this world is not somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:46 AM
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Does he have a phd in philosophy?
/r/ExRedPill01/08/23 12:13 PM
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It has no bearing on the accuracy but it still is a bit disappointing that you talk about the studies and then go on to tell me about your personal life. It doesn’t change the universal truth but I am not even a little closer to that truth
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:06 PM
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I thought you were a big studies guy. Instead you wrote about your personal experience which is pretty much useless for representativity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:38 PM
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Yeah I disagree with those studies and even if it were the case it would still not excuse the unfair relationship dynamics RP guys aspire to establish. Everyone has their agency and rights right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:01 PM
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Extremely red pulled thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:09 PM
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I don’t think every blue piller does that the problem that often comes with this is that many red pillers try to say that it only happens with women which I don’t think is true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:26 PM
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You are still increasing the amount of psychopathy and other DT characteristics. I don’t see how that is supposed to be better because more children are born to higher dark triad people than before. You are giving up cooperativeness and usefulness by trying to emulate the people that you loathe because you want somebody to fuck. I don’t think that we should ever give the advice to actively increase DT traits. Nobody in society actually wants that. Even if I grant you that women are attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:08 PM
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If this is true then that makes every man trying to get these attributes an actual bad person and they should be condemned for that. Since evil is self-evidently bad nobody regardless of how much they want to have women should then use this strategy to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:09 PM
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That’s true but men tend to fall for a lot of get rich schemes and self help stuff which has also become a huge industry
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:00 PM
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But did he say she was awful ? As far as I could see he was actually quite understanding but knew that it had to end under that condition
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:41 AM
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It’s debatable whether it was expected. While it may be dumb to start dating a surfing instructor you are allowed to change your mind. Maybe at the beginning he didn’t know better. I would say though that he could have left without saying anything would you have been ok with him leaving without mentioning why or is it also wrong ? Because in the end those are the two options he has except maybe him being unhappy in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:32 AM
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„Myron Gaines taught him well“ is the most cringe and pathetic sentence that someone could say.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/23 01:00 AM
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I wouldn’t say transactional is a bad viewpoint Every relationship is transactional it doesn’t mean however that love isn’t something worth striving for. I know that if I find someone I love I will have to support them and enrich their lives as that they should have that function for me. I can’t expect that my partner does the dishes if I don’t do my part as well and clean the bathroom. It is always a balance. It wouldn’t be a surprise to me if my partner falls out of love if I never support him…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:48 PM
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Not to mention that caring for a good cause is pretty attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:46 AM
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Yeah so what ? Most of our laws work that way ? Speed limits are pretty utilitarian. Most would be for some sort for speed limits but also everyone ignores them on some occasion because they see it fit. It is about a general rule here and how it would be if that rule wouldn’t exist. In the end you have women in the gym being hit on two times Per session which makes a lady gym pretty justifiable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:36 AM
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That was great thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:28 AM
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I would try some selfies with natural light first just to try it out. I would use a photographer as a last resort :/ On the friend note there are some apps where random people set up a small event with a random activity and everyone can join. Meetup was its name I think.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 11:27 PM
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Hmm I wouldn’t agree with that assessment from the profile picture. I can say however that indoor home photos always give off a certain aesthetic that usually isn’t that attractive. Do you have friends that could help you with taking pictures of you outside ? I can say without a shadow of a doubt that every single photo from me that isn’t made by myself is better than anything I could come up with
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 05:49 PM
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Im sorry to hear :/ have you tried other portals that usually cost a bit more but tend to put more emphasis on connection ?
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 01:59 AM
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I think both of these movements tend to rather harmful to society in general. The mindset that you should always for the best is so harmful in my opinion. In the end we want a society where optimally everyone finds a person they can love and connect with. Why not swipe right on some people that are not completely up to your standards but might still surprise you
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 07:28 PM
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You misunderstand his point. He would have a job to support his family if there was any chance for him finding a family. Supporting yourself as a grown man just isn’t very meaningful in itself. It is just a tool to find true meaning. If true meaning seems unattainable then why bother ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:15 AM
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Well most people wouldn’t be able to survive right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:12 AM
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Wait 30 years is completely different from medieval times. You can’t combine them like that xD
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:05 AM
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I mean to be fair it wasn’t really about sex but building a family. I don’t really think how that is necessarily a bad thing. What are they supposed to do when they don’t like the typical rather hedonistic things people do. Things like traveling, art, partying, gaming or anything else isn’t much more meaningful either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 10:03 AM
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It is fascinating how the view on dependency and relationships changed over the years. I always thought that it was ok to find someone to combine your life with. To find meaning together but it seems somewhat discouraged nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:59 AM
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Wait what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:57 AM
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I understand well I hope that you manage well that way :D
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:04 PM
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Yeah that’s probably easier with guys. At least the sex part I’m sorry :/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:52 PM
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How do you deal with sexual urges ? Just masturbation and is that enough for you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:51 PM
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I guess you can yes. So you mean the MGTOW way or general celibacy or do you mean something different ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:47 PM
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Im not saying it is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:44 PM
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Well I would yes but it kinda came to my mind in this context since I am at the moment looking more into the redpill. Honestly I don’t agree with the red pill at all and I would say that red pillers are the last ones that should complain about sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:40 PM
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How could I forget the 40% of college women get flown out to Dubai take. That was the most beautiful thing that I have ever heard.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 03:17 PM
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I do think that there are two For example if someone wants to commit suicide and a friend decides to give you the drug that can kill you then you do have a responsibility. The same with sex If you are necessary for the equation and you see the promiscuity as a moral wrong then you can’t really participate in good conscience
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:24 AM
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Virtue is something you do because it is virtuous and not because you get something out of it. It is about becoming an actual virtuous person and not an impostor. Just like people search for truth because truth in itself is valued
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:30 AM
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I haven’t read it completely yet and it tends to be on the philosophical side. It is however contemporary so no thousand year old dude. Iddo Landau Finding meaning in an imperfect world It is not really self help but he tries to dismantle arguments about nihilism that I think tend to get to everyone at some point. If you do like very old dudes with complex and disorganized ideas maybe some classical stoic philosophy can be intriguing to you. Meditations by Marcus Aurelius an actual Roman emperor…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/23 03:59 AM
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As far as I can tell that is rare however how long would you know that person before you propose ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:20 PM
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As far as I could gather fresh and fit and sleep around and many in this comment section said that they don’t care they just want to get their dick wet. I would be somewhat fine if these groups would be separated but it seems that some guys just want it all regardless of the problems
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:19 PM
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I just don’t see that as convincing. There are not many women left that actually expect that. I think there are more men that want a relationship rather than women who want sex after marriage Regardless that would mean that women start to intensify playing games and also lie. I don’t see how that is going to long term make everything worse than it already is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:40 PM
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Don’t Myron fresh and sneako sleep around ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:31 PM
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Is that for both sexes or women only ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:31 PM
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No red pillers talk about women and their value too often for it just being sharing hookup tips sorry. Of course lieing will not automatically get you sex but it might help for pickup artists that want to give the impression that they would dedicate to that women which would have else excluded them from their potential partners list.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:30 PM
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I get your theory I’m not that stupid. My point is that you are hypocrites if you take advantage and further a system that you don’t think is desireable and that is obviously what they are doing but I guess it has no sense to continue talking. I got the perspective I needed :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:27 PM
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I do get that theory What I don’t get how you then can go around and fuck with as many women as you want since you are devaluing them. Especially if you lie what many men do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:24 PM
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Im saying about guys that lie to have sex relatively early and then dropping the girl before they actually go into a serious relationship. How are women to blame if they can’t discern between guys that lie but the guys that do lie are fine ? That makes no sense at all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:18 PM
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Myron is fit from fresh and fit No it is absolutely resignation. Resignation from trying to change the system for the better. Facts do not have interpretations tied to them they are neutral. Example ICE cream is unhealthy (fact) ICE cream is unhealthy so I should stop eating it( personal decision based on our values) Ice cream is unhealthy but I don’t care about early death( personal decision based on our values) Both personal decisions are based on the fact but the Interpretation is different D…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:54 PM
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I am not assuming any of those things. My problem is that a big part of RP is game and many use deceiving tactics to bypass her gatekeeping. That means that you actively try to make the „natural“ strategies of women less efficient which would mean that more women get higher body counts since can’t gatekeep as effectively. A popular example would be lying about the intention of the dating. Sometimes men lie about wanting a relationship when they only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:48 PM
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Thank you for your elaborate response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:29 PM
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That is not true Someone like Myron is trying to make onesided open relationships a thing. That is not how the world is he is trying to make it a societal norm I don’t get how redpillers can have a circlejerk around this topic how great and alpha they are if their basic premise is Resignation to what is. Enjoy the decline right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:19 PM
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Do those „course correctionists“ still condone sleeping around or do they see that if furthers the problem ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:14 PM
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No it is not practical is just a common word used to shift responsibility What happened to good old virtue
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:12 PM
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That’s very general :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:09 PM
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Well I didn’t hear of it until today. It doesn’t change however that this is a childish Idea and the person doing that now contributes to the same system
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:09 PM
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Might is right
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:04 PM
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I don’t quite understand where you are coming from but single parenthood is imo a completely different topic and I would agree that this idea of single parents is in most cases wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:38 PM
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My point is that forging a master key is necessarily going to create bad locks in turn. I don’t see how you can judge women for caving in to that master key. Now leaving the analogy behind If you want to have a society where women are high value and men are high value then we need to have balance since taking the one seems to increase the other. There are other ways to increase the value of a man that don’t need devaluing women and that gets mentioned often. Things like money and certain appeara…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:30 PM
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Well you could say that about everything „If someone else wants to judge my theft as moral while I never said that it was moral to begin with“ You can say that but the problem is that everyone in turn is justified in hating you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 07:57 PM
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Every action is either moral immoral or grey but almost never out of that spectrum Simply saying that it isn’t a moral code doesn’t change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 07:40 PM
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I didn’t say that they have the goal but it is a byproduct in red pill theory
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:33 PM
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Yes I can because men decide to themselves contribute to that system. Not to mention that people get taught to lie to the women so that they can sleep with the last few people that would not have been that promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:09 PM
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Well I wouldn’t say zero but not a lot that’s why I writhe this thread. Makes sense right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:07 PM
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But that would mean that you can’t judge anyone for acting on their emotions. You are the contrary from the rational man that every redpiller hopes himself to be
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:04 PM
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It is a bit ironic with those rational alpha dudes when in the end their motivator is actually emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:00 PM
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Yes but many dudes lie about their intentions to get women that want only relationships. They lie and say they want a relationship too to get sex It is not that difficult guys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:59 PM
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I just gave an answer for that Lying with intentions. Women wants relationship and only sex with people in relationship and the dude lies about also wanting a relationship but only wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:57 PM
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What about taking responsibility ? To be a good person ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:55 PM
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Not at all Let’s say a women doesn’t want to sleep with a man with a high bodycount and the dude lies about it. Has the women now the responsibility? I would say not the man actively lied. The man here is responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:39 PM
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Nothing works without morals. I know the argument I heard one say once about that RP is not an ideology but a praxology and that was the stupidest thing I have ever heard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:18 PM
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Im not saying that you can’t have casual sex I really don’t care. It is usually redpillers that do. My point is that you can’t bitch around about women sleeping around to much by using pick up strategies to get women to sleep with you. It takes two to have sex and you are a contributor to the problem Many redpillers use strategies to actively circumvent the barriers of women and that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:16 PM
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But many other redpillers pretend to do would you say that this would be hypocritical and that your opinion is the only way to make your worldview consistent ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:12 PM
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The point is that while female promiscuity can be caused by something else like feminism the redpill is not the solution but rather something that increases the rate at which our society worsens. Myron has said multiple times that women should accept that men want to sleep around and not be monogamous since it is in their nature. This however means that men contribute to the problem that too many women have too much sex since it always takes two. If you try to sleep with as many women als you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:10 PM
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Yes but it tends to be so full of hatred which I think is unwarranted. You can’t judge people for making the world shit when you took the conscious decision to make it even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:55 PM
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That doesn’t seem to be a bad expectation. I mean you potentially cut a lot of women out of your dating pool but I guess that is fair. Do you usually have this information when you start dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:53 PM
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As far as I could gather Redpillers say that sleeping around with women diminishes their worth but for men it is the reverse. Their value grows as their body count piles up. So I guess they think it makes them more desireable (?) It really is weird to me . Granted I am a gay dude but I would probably not sleep with any man that has a body count of 70 without a doctors note that he has no stds. In heterosexual relationships this seems far more problematic since even pregnancy is a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:43 PM
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Is that referring to a hookup or a relationship ? It also seems a bit reductive to say that it is because she isn’t as attracted to you there could be other reasons for why she would wait. This is in no way an insult but maybe she doesn’t feels safe or sure if she likes you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:39 PM
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Honestly I am going to recommend Destiny a YouTuber. He seems to have a nuanced view on these topics while discussing with FnF and pearly. Maybe you already know him.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 03:30 PM
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I don’t think that the Wikipedia article you quoted necessarily implies what you said. I might be wrong but couldn’t „seeking the same qualities as each other“ just mean that they both search the same things they might however be both above their „status“ ?
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 03:25 PM
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That is the only conclusion that I personally can come up with aswell since their worldview usually revolves around „might is right“ but I don’t know. It seems so contradictory that it is hard for me to grasp
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 02:59 AM
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