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no, i think fit healthy bodies are universally attractive for both genders, but you don't need to look like a greek god. I think men (specifically, Gym Bros) vastly overestimate the amount of muscle they need to attract the majority of women. Women want a guy who looks "fit". eg. healthy body weight, ideally some muscle tone, but you don't need to look like a fitness model or bodybuilder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:02 PM
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i'm 6'2. seeing a women close to my height is always a huge turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:16 PM
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I think COVID lockdowns started a more serious and intelligent conversation about loneliness for all people. Three years later, It's still a compelling topic and men's loneliness is an important part of the discussion. Plus, having so much media buzz around guys like Andrew tate begs the question "what are figures like Tate a response TO", and part of that answer is male loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:48 PM
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lmao good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:35 PM
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I think these are perfectly reasonable wants and asks, and honestly, reading this makes me feel very lucky because what you describe in your ideal woman sounds very much like my fiancé. I think what you describe here is actually what most well adjusted adult men want, it's just the online antics of RP/BP that skew our perception to think everyone is one extreme or another. I would argue the real "purple pill" men have no concept of all this pill bullshit and just go by their lived experience whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:34 PM
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hey, one day these autistic babies will keep this subreddit alive. in all seriousness, with so many couples in my generation waiting by choice or circumstance to have kids around age 35, will we see a spike in autism diagnoses down the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:20 PM
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PPD is "scaring the hoes 101"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:45 PM
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by this logic, no man over the age of 16 should ever make poor or regrettable decisions because they should know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:45 PM
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i think i'm just cool-guy pilled. if a woman thinks you're cool, it genuinely overcomes some of your perceived shortcomings. look at artists, musicians, or even 30 y/o guys who are still out there skateboarding. even if they aren't professionally successful at these things, if a girl thinks these things are "cool"- it can make these average in other aspects dudes stand out. this sometimes works for nerd shit too, if the girl finds that niche culture "cool". all of the average or even below avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:33 PM
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i would argue it's the opposite. i think men are under more societal pressure to have somebody in their life, at least these days. I know many more happily single and financially independent women that aren't desperate for a relationship meanwhile....*gestures broadly at the men here*
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:19 PM
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guess what, this happens for non-celebs too. ALL THE TIME. but i'm sure you guys will make up some dumbass argument for why they aren't actually happy and the man is somehow being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:07 PM
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thanks for the reply, it's god for me to hear the other side. It's like one time i got slightly annoyed when my fiance gave a strange guy who was chatting her up at starbucks her number. she said, "if you give a fake number, sometimes they text you right then and there to check, which can lead to more trouble. easier to give the real number and then just ignore/block" which in hindsight, made a lot of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:49 PM
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i understand your point, i just don't see how straight up ghosting is less likely to make a man lash out. maybe i just have enough self esteem to take "i don't see this going anywhere" as an acceptable answer and move on with my life, but just going total no contact seems like a more rude and harsh rejection in itself. I think telling someone upfront "thank you, but it's a no" shows a certain amount of mutual respect, whereas ghosting is like "wow...i'm not even worth a simple rejection text?". …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:57 PM
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in my brief period of using online dating, i had gone one 3 dates with this one girl. we kissed on the last one and i thought things were going good. Waited a few days before reaching out to make plans and when finally did, no response. another day went by, i text again, and she admitted "i was just going to ghost you, but you seem like a nice guy, i just don't see this going anywhere, thank you for the nice dates". I really wish she would have just come out with that last part and saved me the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:25 PM
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flawed source and study imo that can be prety easily explained by societal norms rather than virginity actually being good in a marriage. couples that married as virgins in the US almost always have a strong religious affiliation. eg. Mormonism. divorce is very frowned upon in these communities, especially if there are children in the picture. i think this also explains the drop off of happiness between one partner only and 2+ partners before marriage. These conservative couples may or may not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:59 PM
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i'd agree with this. in the US atleast, if she is a healthy BMI and no obvious deformities, she reads as above average. I do think men are "rating" other men as a man would, not as a woman. the old "women don't actually care about muscles" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:06 PM
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women says looks aren't that important? "UGLY" woman says there is more to attraction than your outer shell "BETABUX" you guys are hopeless. stick to vidya
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:00 PM
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make condoms cool again
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 09:00 PM
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i'm a decently tall guy (6'2) who likes taller girls. dated a girl who was 5'11 or 6' for a few years and i think they have it harder. Usually, the guys who go after tall girls are tall themselves and as you noted, there are fewer of them and this same group often also likes shorter girls. I think tall girls are more willing to date men shorter than then "short" girls but they still want to keep that within an inch or two of their height. women in general do not want to feel "big" compared to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:31 PM
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not worth it. 99.999% chance it will lead to nothing and only give you some false sense of connection. just play the game and keep your romantic approach to IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:28 PM
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not in my experience for either case. Most girls aren't the image obsessed robots and i know plenty of guys who fit the "average looking but always attracting women" bill who are under 5'10
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:27 PM
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The ultimate irony to me is that yes, there are some girls that care about muscles, or fancy cars, or you having "alpha" energy, but these are usually the worst types of women, and the SAME kind of female stereotype these red pill guys hate on, yet, somehow they think getting the muscles, and the car, and the "status" is the only way they can have a real relationship?? I feel like i figured this out when i was 16, that the preppy popular girls weren't all that interested in me, but that didn't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:20 AM
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people will call me a blue pilled normie here, but even i will admit lookism is very real and some people have a more difficult "starting point" for dating or attracting romantic interest. that being said, i find very few people are genuinely ugly and if you walk around any public place, it's pretty clear the elusive "chad" is not the only one getting girls. but to answer your question, it's comforting to be told you are the victim or something, and if you feel your looks are holding you back, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:27 PM
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Father or father figure in ones life (could be an uncle, or godfather, or family friend) teachers (i had great teachers growing up, some of whom i'm still in touch with) leaders in ones interest (top athlete, artist, film maker etc. I think it's good to aspire for greatness even if that doesn't happen) Community leaders (people who put others or their cause before themselves)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:20 PM
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still no comment on the average person, who can be unattractive to some and genuinely good looking to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:37 PM
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this sub really thinks women are just living this gilded existence purely because of their gender. the truth (as i see it of course) is: avg men are not that much different than avg women. They're having sex, relationships, and mostly fulfilling lives. struggles too of course. the men here with 0 relationship experience are the exception, not the rule. women don't combust at 35 nor do men become any more attractive than they were before. if you were an attractive partner before 35, you will cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:32 PM
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tldr: "women be shopping"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:25 PM
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you are dodging my point. just because certain traits, like height for men or a slim waist for women (some of which is cultural) , are considered widely attractive, doesn't mean individual thresholds for attraction are extremely subjective. There are people many would consider attractive that i feel no genuine sexual interest towards and vice versa. i don't know why people here are so dedicated to attraction being set in stone when the reality is actually much more malleable and encouraging.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:24 PM
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no those people are all still Christians.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:40 AM
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i've never understood people chiming in on other peoples relationships or "looks match". if it works for them and they are happy, GOOD. what we have to say does not matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:39 AM
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hail satan
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:33 AM
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this question makes no sense. we have to pick one, but it has to be different? so there is no choice? we just wake up the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:18 PM
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you have a very narrow view of weddings. for most not hyper-religious people getting married in the 21st century, it's just a celebration of love and a party with their friends plus of course, the legally binding part. you can wear a white dress but drop the god part entirely. you can exchange rings but not last names it really is yours to design and just because you are hung up on the history of the names bit, it has no bearing on a marriage being "legit" or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:15 PM
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you don't think someone can pass the looks threshold test for one person and not another? that is subjective beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:05 PM
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right? it's like you had me until "Lizzo-sized, single mothers who are in debt all expecting men who are out of their league." the world can be a brutal unfulfilling place but that still doesn't mean the deck is stacked against you specifically for being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:15 PM
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yeah everybody understands and agrees with this concept, but where PPD takes it in the wrong direction is treating "attractive" as some absolute set of characteristics that aren't subjective. Just because you see a hot girl with an "average" guy doesn't mean he's rich or dark triad or whatever theory you use to feel better about yourself. She may find him genuinely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:02 PM
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there is a fine line between having fun on social media and having "main character syndrome" I'm plenty guilty of posting stories etc if i do something interesting or have something that i want to share, but so many people nowadays care more about the appearance of their life, than how they are actually living their life. It can also get into "over-sharey" territory where your personal relationship is aired out for the whole world to see, which may be out of your comfort zone. but if i had to gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:22 AM
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i swear people here write like they're an alien race trying to describe human behavior but are just comically off base. remember guys, when she says "she's just not into you" that's "women speak" for "you are not worthy of being in the gene pool"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:58 PM
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*whoosh*
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:37 PM
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not necessarily, more so that i value genuine communication over "stuff." Now if someone is all talk and their actions are the opposite of their words, that can be cause for concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:32 PM
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because it is inherently misogynistic. it's like people discussing eugenics and pseudoscience to make one race look inferior while also saying they aren't racist, just discussing science.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:17 PM
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no comment on the asian part, but as a man entering year 5 of a great relationship, i would say words of affirmation matter the most to me. gestures, or gifts are nice and all that but can sometimes feel transactional. Just hearing honest positive reinforcement matters the most to me. It can just be "today was really nice, i'm so glad we got to spend it together". i can be a bit of an anxious person or overthinker, so words, more than gestures help me feel loved and happy about the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:39 PM
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you can say this all day long and they still wont' get it. i know several guys in their 30s struggling with relationships but no one hates them or shames them. They have friends ,hobbies, good jobs and people who truly care about them. I think these guys will make great partners one day if they can meet the right person. but for the terminally online, poorly socialized guys who can go on and on about how women think and act with very little IRL experience to back it up, it's over for them until …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:57 PM
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i'm not sure what point you're trying to prove. i think every well adjusted adult would say the guy with a good job has more status and value in society. If you really think most people assign more value to the broke womanizer, that's a reflection of your own worldview, not society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:49 PM
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i've never seen society or individuals specifically shame lonely virgin men or treat them like garbage. i do however see people rightfully calling out hateful and misogynistic men who blame women for the problems of their own creation. I know several guy friends i believe to be adult virgins and no one is shaming them. I think most normal people feel some sympathy towards them because they are genuinely good dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:47 PM
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I don't even think most sexless men want casual sex, but becasue they know they aren't relationship material, it becomes another fantasy of "oh, i'd be happy without a relationship if i could just get laid now and then". p.s. i agree with the core message of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:43 PM
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the year was 2004, i was 13 years old. we met at a friends holiday party and i was instantly smitten got her AIM screen name and started chatting in the following weeks. had to CALL HER HOUSE and ask her mom if she was around so i could ask her to be my GF she said yes! we "dated" for a week but when i wanted to hold hands with her she decided things were moving too fast and that she didn't actually want a boyfriend. She called my house to break up with me. i was crushed, and wallowed in my emo …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:54 PM
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i think there are partial truths in the red,blue,blackpill but also a lot of bullshit spouted as truth in each one. for redpill: i would argue confidence and self esteem do in fact matter and make a difference in how you are perceived. people can be swayed by "charisma" for black: pretty privilege is real , and things like height for a man can make life objectively more difficult blue: i do believe your personality, matter a ton in relationships and for 99% of us, you won't get by on looks alone…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:16 PM
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and people here with zero relationship experience will still say "you're wrong, women just care about looks, doesn't matter if a guy is an asshole, they will come back". another anecdote, but my fiance and i love watching dumb reality TV together. dating shows where usually everyone is conventionally attractive, and we start with a neutral opinion of them. but as we see more of them, we'll grow to love or hate certain people depending on how they act and treat others. funny how that happens, rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:05 PM
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you just described this sub in a nutshell. if the rules and theory constantly spouted here actually described reality i too would be depressed. thank goodness that as you put it " in the real world. There are so many layers of nuance and shades of grey."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:31 PM
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don't go bringing actual real life experience into this conversation! women are supposed to be mindless robots solely focused on the elusive chad! /s but yes, your experience mirrors most normal functioning adults. men and women alike. you need to be attracted to your partner, but the real meat and potatoes of a strong healthy relationship is what your partner has to offer beyond looks. I know the guys here will say, oh yeah, money! but you and i both know there is more to it than that. i really…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:28 PM
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you're right. my point is just that they do exist. people seem to think the ugly nice guy is getting passed over for the rich douchebag, but that's not always true. There are rich, handsome nice guys out there too and that's almost a scarier conclusion for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:21 AM
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the dark truth no piller wants to hear is that those girls aren't lying, they can just find the whole package. There are guys who are handsome, successful, confident, and genuinely nice, and that's who i actually see attractive successful women (high value if you will) going after. they aren't settling for a hot guy who is a douchebag, because they don't have to. that's just what blackpillers tell themselves to feel slightly better, that girls are just easily manipulated robots that only want ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:49 AM
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thank you, it seems no one points out how this problem feeds on itself. There have always been young sexless men who have felt on the "outside" of society. Some of them would grow out of this , and naturally some wouldn't. Now i feel there is a risk of any angsty young man trying to figure out the world getting sucked into this bullshit at the first experience of rejection. It really becomes a cult for these guys and it's hard to "deprogram". A liberated society isn't the problem here....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:31 PM
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the implied solution seems to be "return to a 'traditional' society, where women have to pick a partner to survive, whether the is any real romantic interest or not. Then men's 'needs' will be met and there will be no looming incel rebellion" so basically some form of sexual slavery or forced marriage. I hope we can all agree the current reality is a better alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:24 PM
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i'm more worried about the degeneracy stemming from people who aren't having sex, not those who are having casual sex. No one elevates fuckboys more, and puts down "beta" dudes more than blackpillers online, which this post screams of. They reduce everyones intrinsic value to how much or how little sex they are having. I think the system is working better than it was 60 years ago. Sadly, it's not perfect, and good people deserving of love and partnership fall through the cracks, but i would argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:12 PM
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This sounds like a medical condition not a "girls can sense your energy" problem. You could hit it off great with a girl, have attraction and good chemistry, but if she was unable to have or enjoy sex, learning this would be a dealbreaker for most guys. I do understand the point you're trying to make, that having sexual competence does matter to women, not just looks, but i would argue this rings true for both genders. I hope you are seeking medical help for your hormone issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:54 PM
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not to sound callous, but this sounds like a "you" problem, not a women problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:55 PM
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my reaction to this information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psi-K-PupRM
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:32 PM
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"girls get turned off when you don't have a genuine sexual or romantic interest in them" Is this a surprise to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:13 PM
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yeah guys who point to leo as some ideal are usually weirdos. honestly, it sounds exhausting to me. How much does an aging movie start have to talk about with a fame thirsty 22 year old? I bet that gets old fast. Regardless of fame or status, i would prefer an age appropriate partner with a deep connection over his situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:56 PM
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Everybody wants to be a victim of something these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:18 PM
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should not exist for either gender. the cost/benefit is way out of wack here and will just lead to doxing people and false allegations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:13 PM
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i'm talking about real life, face to face interactions, not trolling dummies on tinder with fake pictures. Of course hot people, men and women, do well on dating apps. that's news to nobody, but when it comes to actually having and maintaining a relationship, don't underestimate the power of being a genuinely likeable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:02 PM
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hotly debated subject on this sub, but an average guy who is naturally likeable, funny, and down to earth will do better than a gym maxxed weirdo who has polluted his personality with one pill or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:23 PM
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well said. I'm sure there are people who are hung up on one person, and comparing new partners to them, but is likely a reflection of their own insecurities being projected onto a partner. Not something you can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 08:27 PM
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There are a lot of horrible questions on this sub but this one might have some basis in reality. I don't know that "alpha" has a ton to do with it, but it's not unusual for people to compare their current partner to things they've liked in past partners. That being said, you probably aren't being measured and judged for every little thing you do or have. Different, does not always mean better or worse worse. you might look at her ex and go wow, he had x,y,z that i don't have, but some of these t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:58 PM
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i am a 31 y/o man engaged to a 31 y/o woman. don't worry about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:33 PM
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you commented there 12 minutes ago you fucking moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:07 PM
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homeboy was very active on "rapehentai" subreddit before deleting all his comments and has the audacity to say "where does the hostility come from".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:04 AM
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i am a man, mocking a very specific subset of men. i'm guessing you fit that bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 10:00 PM
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another common terminally online fantasy, usually by people with zero relationship experience. Women aren't all settling for mediocre guys in their 30s. usually, like most adults do, they grow and mature, and are looking for an actual PARTNER in life, not just someone nice to look at. that's normal and good. men do this too. Don't worry guys, if you were a weird asshole in your 20s, and are commenting about "women getting out of their slut phase and then looking to settle down", you're probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 07:16 PM
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"understand basic social skills" you're asking WAY too much of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 07:05 PM
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*PPD Poses silly question* Guy with years of experience in healthy relationships: "actually, people are a little more complicated than that. let me explain...." Blackpiller with zero XP: "cope"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:41 PM
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I know the internet has poisoned your mind, but the hot rich people end up with other hot rich people their age. They don't need to find an old rich asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:34 PM
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this has to be one of the most reddit-autist "i don't understand how relationships work" bits of sad cringe i've seen on this sub this far. bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:55 AM
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i remember discovering red pill stuff when i was 21 in 2013 and even back then it was very much "women are dumb, and easy to manipulate, here's how to convince them to fuck you". maybe you've been in that sphere longer but from my casual understanding, it's been pretty misogynistic from quite some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 02:43 AM
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Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing? by default, sure, but re-read OP's question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:43 PM
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i'm no expert and i've never bought into this PUA stuff but as an outsider i can say.... Alot of this stuff caters to men who are not successful in relationships and dating for a variety of reasons. It's always easier to see yourself as a victim and to blame someone or something else for your problems. Often, we see men blaming modern western society and the loss of "traditional values" as a reason for their struggles. Conservatives, by definition, long for these "traditional values" examples: -…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:05 PM
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i don't mean this in a sarcastic or insulting way but in my limited time here, this subreddit is fueled by autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:00 PM
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some how OP answered the question correctly themselves but is also cockblocking themself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:43 PM
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you pretty much answered the question yourself, but are also gatekeeping yourself from that good advice. of the three long term (ranging from 1 year, to 3+) relationships i had in my 20s... met in class. thought she was cute, made a point to sit near her and chat her up. eventually asked her out and went from there met in a busy dive bar, chatted it up and joked in the line for the bathroom. got her number and the rest was history met through mutual friends. was "just friends" for a few months. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:33 PM
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how many women have you actually dated that displayed these traits or did you just read about women online? This is the male equivalent of women going "men are trash, all they do is lie, cheat, and steal".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:56 PM
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Men on this sub: *constant complaints about women not giving average guys a chance and only wanting their definition of a perfect "chad"* Woman on this sub: "my man isn't super tall, isn't rich, doesn't have a six pack, but is perfect for me and i love him very much" Man on this sub: "LOL" people here are hopeless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:33 PM
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there is no sense talking to these people. Their perception of how relationships work is based almost entirely on niche internet echo chambers full of other people who ALSO know very little about how adult relationships work. Not sure why so many guys here are hung up on woman being single mothers and then finding happiness but i truly feel sorry for them. A lot of these "cucked" step-dads are probably happier than most here ever will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:11 AM
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Most people change their behavior, learn from their mistakes, and mature as they get older. Sadly, most of this subreddit does not fall into this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:47 PM
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