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Not all humans are shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:58 PM
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All humans are shallow. Men act the same. I have a friend who just uses men, but they all go crazy for her! It’s insane to watch. She exudes confidence and sexuality and makes you feel like the most important person when she’s talking to you. Thing is she does that to everyone but men lose thier goddamn minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:43 PM
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No, she’s completely spot on. It all comes down to who the woman wants to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:19 PM
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Sure but good looking mostly means decently fit and well groomed. Anyone can be “good looking” if you take a small amount of care for yourself and develop confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:10 AM
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You’re partly right. Confidence/good grooming is the first gate. Then once she’s interested she needs attention to keep her. I think guys on this sub are too hung up on looks. Pretty much anyone can be decent looking if they have good grooming, well fitting clothes, and confidence. “I eat good pussy” attitude goes waaaaaay further than chiseled jaw line…. Trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:11 PM
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As a woman, I think this is very accurate. Really we just want to be taken care of (emotionally)and listened to and have good, safe sex. If you can provide those three things you are in the top 80% of the pool. Decent looks and confidence will get you most of the rest of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:06 AM
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Never in my life has a man I wasn’t currently sleeping with care about my orgasms. Do men lack empathy for women? I mean not being able to get an intimate sexually fulfilling relationship is hard. It’s something that I’ve struggled with immensely in my life. Do you have empathy for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:19 AM
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Wait a second, male loneliness is the same as not being able to cum in a vagina?????
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:00 AM
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That’s simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:31 PM
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Yeah I don’t think women generally have empathy for not being able to get your balls drained. I have a ton of empathy for guys who struggle to find a full filling relationship. But not being able to cum in a vagina? Nah, don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:30 PM
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Well I’m a woman I don’t think any of those things. Im sorry you’re so lonely that sounds very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:29 PM
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Oh boy. I think most women know that men have higher sex drives. We’ve been told this our entire lives. Men only want one thing, etc. most women in relationships know this as well. That it leads to suffering I think isn’t something women think about much. More lack of awareness and caring than maliciousness. Most people don’t care about things that don’t affect them, especially things that they didn’t cause and can’t fix. Do you care about child labor in Bangladesh? Correct me if I’m wrong, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:19 PM
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As long as you aren’t lying to them it’s all good. As a woman who dates casually, men catch feelings like whoah i think being socialized female makes it harder for me to just not care about thier feelings, but it is frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:06 PM
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This is something that I’ve really started to appreciate. The threat to a guys reputation and thus social standing and career opportunities is real real, if one women gets the wrong idea. I do think as a society we’ve over corrected and need to give average men way more benefit of the doubt about thier intentions, the confusion from mixed cultural signals, and the damage from women making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:01 PM
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But that hasn’t translated economically. Who cares if more women then men have higher degrees if there is still a significant gender pay gap. The truth is the gender divide manifests later in life as people start having kids, so you get more women with student debt with less ability to pay it off because now you have to choose between working and paying for child care. It’s also easier for men to find partners willing to follow them around for thier careers, even if the women is the same level o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:58 PM
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Do women deny this? Or just deny that it’s something they should care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:55 PM
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Because the metrics are different. Women have an easier time getting dates and sex, but when it comes to finding a compatible life partner it’s not easier for women. It can be difficult to find someone you are attracted to and compatible with, who respects you and wants an equal relationship, who wants to commit and have kids. All the first dates in the world don’t mean that finding a husband is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:53 PM
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I didn’t have my first “real” relationship until 33 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:56 PM
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To expand on that. Yes it’s absolutely true that it’s easier for women to get attention, dates and sex. There is definitely difference in sexy drive and spontaneous desire. But ultimately everyone wants the same thing which is a loving life partner who is a good match. For that, men and women are on an even playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:05 PM
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None of that is true. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:57 PM
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In dating, I’d say feminism has achieved equality or close to it (division of labor within LTRs is another matter). Feminism allows women to choose who she actually wants to be with instead of being forced into unhappy marriages because of culture or economic necessity. Although as I’m writing this I’m realizing that we haven’t fully achieved that but…. Women and men both have the ability to choose who they want to be thier partners. Enthusiastic consent means that both people want it. If you st…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:49 PM
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What does feminism have to do with any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:44 PM
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Wanting a paternity test doesn’t mean you are always scared of being cheated on, what a leap. Put yourself in their shoes. There is always a chance someone could cheat on you. I just listened to a podcast where a woman didn’t know her father was a serial killer. You never know about people. Can you not empathize with wanting to be 100% sure the kid is yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:04 PM
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What on earth are you talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:46 PM
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First of all I’m a woman. You can vet all you want, you can think you know someone for decades, and not actually. This is not a gender thing. What world do you live in? It really seems like you just hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:29 PM
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Even if you trust someone, paternity is such a huge thing it’s completely legitimate to want to be totally sure. Men should be able to get the test without having to blow up thier relationship. What possible argument could be made otherwise? Women trust men who turn out to be abusive all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:39 PM
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I don’t know if paternity testing should be mandatory, but it should be destigmatized and offered to new fathers confidentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:57 PM
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I boundary test guys. Say no to something I feel neutral about and see how they react.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:25 PM
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Yes and this is a good thing. As a woman I want the places that are acceptable to approach to be limited. I mean, I enjoy eye fucking a cute guy, but in general I don’t want to be cold approached by a bunch of dudes who don’t know anything about me. The switch from old school internet dating where you could browse all the profiles and message whoever, to swiping and needing a mutual match is also good. I want to date when I want to with who I want to, without getting constantly bombarded by bone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:16 AM
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Sure, but you have to recognize that you are the minority. It is what it is, but getting mad about it is pretty much useless. Acceptance is the only way forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:02 AM
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Yeah it’s super wierd to hit on someone you don’t know cold in a lecture hall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:00 AM
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This has happened more often then not, but when the guy talks about himself the whole time like he’s trying to sell himself, and doesn’t ask me about myself at all. Tells me that he’s not interested in who I am, just wants any woman. The other most often reason is that I can’t tell if I’ll be attracted to someone from the pictures. I don’t know that until we meet in person. More often than not, I’m not attracted to them, even if they are good looking. It’s all about chemistry and vibes, if it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:37 PM
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Everyone everywhere of all genders tell women that men just want sex. And if you date a lot it’s easy to believe it. However I happen to think that’s a bunch of sexist garbage and that most men want what everyone wants which is love and understanding and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:13 PM
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There are books written on this subject. Sheesh guys could educate themselves. Would it occur to these guys to try reading “she comes first” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:11 PM
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That’s funny. I’m very hot and rarely get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:24 AM
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I wish I could exist in the world as a woman without the knowledge of how I’m viewed by men but sadly I cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:23 AM
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Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:23 AM
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That is a creepy interaction that you outlined. And no, you’re beautiful let’s grab coffee isn’t going to be interpreted as I want to get to know you. It’s very much I want to fuck you and all women know this ESPECIALLY if you’re approaching in a non social environment. I mean think about it, you know nothing about this person other that you think they are fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:21 AM
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I mean as they are going about their lives. You can approach respectfully in social situations. This isn’t really a complicated concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:40 PM
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Hahaha man, I don’t control all women, bitches be crazy 😝
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:38 PM
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Ignore that advice. It’s totally fine to approach at social events. HOWEVER coming up to a woman and asking her out based on her looks alone is still creepy. Like, have a conversation first, damn!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:35 PM
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That’s right, this is the answer. Awkward confidence is awesome, much better than suave or fake. Insecurity will always be a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:36 PM
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Well they usually don’t know they are dangerous and violent when first getting involved. That shit comes out over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:35 PM
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If you’re only interested in sex and are approaching a woman in a context where that’s not what’s on the table, you are a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:31 PM
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No the alternative is to leave women the fuck alone in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:30 PM
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Assuming this a guy she doesn’t know? It depends on the context. A bar or other social event that’s explicitly for meeting people and dating - not creepy. At a grocery store? Creepy af I want to go about my life without being reminded that I’m constantly being assessed for my fuckability. A guy who knows literally nothing about you other than that he likes your ass approaching you to tell you that is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:29 PM
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That is really crazy. We’re you guys actually taught this? Has to be sub culture dependent. Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:13 PM
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Oh sure yes this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:07 AM
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All of it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:51 PM
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That’s… some unhinged shit right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:24 PM
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by women using the state to take your stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:34 PM
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No. What he is talking about is the kind of harassment women receive constantly where NO THE GUY DEFINITELY DOES NOT HAVE YOUR INTERESTS IN MIND.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:30 PM
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Ive been grabbed by multiple men in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:27 PM
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Do you understand that stripping and only fans take skill. I could never be a stripper that shit is difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:40 AM
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There are a few possible reasons: 1) smell/pheromones: I was seeing a guy briefly who was hot and we got along great - but I hated how he smelled (not bad just not for me). I love how my current partner smells, even after working out. It’s a biochemical thing. 2)passivity/gentleness: I’m attracted to dominance. There could be a super hot guy but if he is too shy to make a move or if he’s the kind who wants to caress me gently and make slow love to me… my vagina literally slams shut. 3) assholery…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:53 PM
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That’s why I do it 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:16 PM
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You must understand that comparing the superficiality of men to women will get you downvoted, and that statement is light years away from saying looks don’t matter. Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:40 PM
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Look I’m really not making that value judgement. It’s true that men’s sexuality is more visual and frankly easier. I’d rather have the men’s version! And im not talking about emotional connection. Im talking about confidence and dominance and the things that women like in bed. You don’t need an emotional connection for that… but it’s not visually based is all im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:28 AM
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Huh no. I don’t think women are more evolved. I just think we are different. And no, a handsome guy who sucks in bed still sucks in bed. There’s no pleasure there regardless. I guess unless you count the ego boost as pleasure which sure, but that’s not gonna get the guy another date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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You don’t understand how female sexuality works. A guy being super hot doesn’t equal pleasurable sex. A guy with confidence who knows what he’s doing is much more likely to give me a good time. A super hot guy who knows what he’s doing is the best option obvi. Understand that women are looking to enjoy themselves sexually which just doesn’t have that much to do with whether or not the guy is a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:02 PM
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Cheers then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:58 PM
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Sure. I don’t agree that because you are entitled to do something, someone else shouldn’t be upset about it. It seems like you think that someone not liking your actions means they are saying you aren’t entitled to those actions, and that is simply not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:56 PM
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Oh no, I agree that you have the right to do whatever you want in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:45 PM
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Haha ok I’ll try again. Basically people expressing their disgust for your behaviors and beliefs aren’t infringing on any rights or entitlements of yours. You’re argument is “I’m entitled to be an asshole” and honestly, no one is gonna disagree with that statement. What you AREN’T entitled to is any particular reaction from any person. Trying to change your mind isn’t actually taking away from your freedom to do what the fuck ever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:44 PM
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Wow. I feel disgusted reading this. You’re entitled to everything you said, but that doesn’t mean you are a good person, shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:08 PM
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HAHAHA oh you sweet summer child
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:12 PM
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I mean, I don’t think that’s in conflict with what I am saying. Women do enjoy sex and are sexual beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:34 PM
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Or go out into the world and find the rare men to have awesome mutually pleasurable sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:49 PM
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I didn’t say all men. I said most on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:43 PM
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I love sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:43 PM
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I am telling you that sex is not necessarily pleasurable. And bad sex doesn’t release those hormones, it does the opposite. Why is it so hard for men to understand this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:02 PM
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I date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:59 PM
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That’s not true. They are the same rarity. Keep in mind I’m only including men who make me cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:59 PM
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That’s absolutely not what I am doing. I am not a victim and I don’t hate men. My one simple point is that being used as a flesh light isn’t an option. Edit: typo date should have been hate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:39 PM
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I’m not saying that. I’m sure those men exist. I’m saying that they are the same rarity as a women who wants to date all these “average” dudes. I’m saying we don’t have more options because being used as a flesh light doesn’t qualify as an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:30 PM
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Oh yes I understand from a man’s perspective. If they fail to put themselves in the women’s shoes of course that’s how it appears. That doesn’t make it correct tho. And what exactly was my immediate benefit in the scenario???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:26 PM
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I’m not sure being able to get a guy who wants to use my body to get off for a night is some great privilege. That is literally a negative experience for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:13 PM
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Yeah like I’m sure most (all?) of my male friends would fuck me. I don’t think most of them would date me. Are those guys in my friend zone?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:33 PM
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This is the answer these guys don’t want to hear. It’s not your looks (after meeting certain hygiene and fitness baselines) it’s your swagger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:31 PM
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It’s not all looks tho. For me it’s the sexiness factor. Two men could look exactly the same but with different attitudes one I want to fuck and one I don’t. The guys on here REALLY overplay the importance of looks when in reality what women want is a man who turns them on, who knows how to balance anticipation with confidence, who isn’t NEEDY. Why would I want to lay there and spread my legs so the guy can use my body to get himself off? And no, being over eager to go down on me isn’t a turn on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:25 PM
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Are we talking about fucking Or relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:21 PM
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Huh, that hasn’t been my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:51 PM
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How do you figure that? Sexual desire is less superficial than enjoying someone for who they are as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:23 PM
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Exactly the conflation between liking and wanting sex is… telling
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:19 PM
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Im a straight woman. The qualities that I like in men are the same qualities as I like in women. The only difference is that Im sexually attracted to a small number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:17 PM
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You know that men wanting to use women’s bodies isn’t the same as men liking women…. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:09 PM
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It makes me very angry because I understand the sentiment behind believe victims. I think trust but verify is the best approach, but we can’t start thinking because someone said something, because someone is a certain gender, they are automatically the victim or the abuser. It’s actually sexist to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:25 PM
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I used to believe this. Then I encountered a woman who I believed and she turned out to be delusional. We have a culture that hands a certain type of victim seeking person a convenient narrative to soothe their ego. Lives can be ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:05 PM
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Best answer so far I’d say
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:40 AM
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Is that different than how it would affect your mono partner? Or are you talking about dating someone new?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:51 PM
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I think we can explain the why of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What’s the why for sexual exclusivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:16 PM
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My partners also date other women. It’s pretty equitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:12 PM
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Is the metaphor here that you buy people? That’s a really weird way to view other humans
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:11 PM
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But a lot of societal ideas haven’t stood the test of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:10 PM
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In my experience men are just as into being poly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:08 PM
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I am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:55 PM
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Where do you think that feeling comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:54 PM
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Are humans objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:53 PM
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I am asked why poly constantly. I was wondering what monogamous people would say when asked to question what is assumed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:52 PM
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This is what I’m getting at. WHY tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:51 PM
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This is my perspective as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:51 PM
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I agree that jealousy is rooted in evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:50 PM
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Why wouldn’t you? Why does her having sex with someone else prevent you from being with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:49 PM
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Poly doesn’t necessarily lead to more sex tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:47 PM
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Doesn’t everyone get crushes? Monogamy is simply choosing not to act on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:46 PM
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Huh? I’m genuinely interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:45 PM
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I think jealousy and promiscuity are both evolutionary in that we have tendencies for both, which is how you get a monogamous culture rife with cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:44 PM
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Well, if the other partners weren’t in the house, would that be a problem for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:43 PM
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Poly doesn’t mean that everyone is a family together - usually it doesn’t except for rare circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:40 PM
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My partner and I own a house
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:39 PM
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Would your partner having sex with someone while on a trip, no emotional connection, doesn’t influence your relationship at all, be a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:50 PM
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Do you feel this way about other relationships in your life? If not, Is there a reason it’s true for romantic relationships but not others?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:39 PM
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Sure, I’m not really asking why you aren’t polyamorous - you’re certainly right that it’s a lot of work. Could you not have what you want with a main partner and occasional side sex? Why the prohibition on sex with others specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:33 PM
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Not taking no for answer, including soft nos. Not reading social cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:59 PM
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Well he doesn’t see it that way at all. I’ve tried to explain your guys point of view to him as he is so confused. He like doesn’t believe me that people like you exist haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:22 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:20 AM
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I am in a polyamorous relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:37 PM
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Oh he is very happy in our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:16 PM
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Yes. I dated and slept with a loooooooot of guys before I met my partner. I have this lovely thing called perspective. I KNOW there isn’t anyone out there who’s as amazing as him, because I dated them all. 😅😅😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:12 PM
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This guy was dynamite in bed. No deeper explanation about women’s nature needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:00 AM
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Have you… read… come as you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:10 AM
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I can think of all kinds of reasons. Maybe he chickened out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:02 AM
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It’s really weird that you conflate expensive gifts with investing in a relationship. I had a boyfriend who gave me expensive gifts and honestly I don’t think he was that invested in me. I’d much rather have a man who invests his time, his effort, his consideration, his passion, than gifts. Edit: I think a better analogy here would be commitment or “boyfriend” things, like meeting parents, spending time with her friends, planning dates and stuff like that. Like if I really liked a guy who only h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:52 AM
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You don’t buy women my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:47 AM
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Why get rid of a part of your past?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:44 AM
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Would not matter. That’s why I make my own money - I can buy myself the stuff I want. My partners are there because I enjoy them as people. I would probably judge the last lady honestly for being shallow and I would have some questions about my partners character if he’s will to basically bribe a woman into being with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:42 AM
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People = men huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:26 PM
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Haha yeah. Women are people and people are notoriously bad at sniffing out fake confidence and bluster. Those women want to believe that about themselves but it’s not true. Fake it til you make it works in dating like it works at a job - it can work but if you leap too far eventually the truth will reveal itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:40 PM
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“It takes an exceptional man to beat no man”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:41 PM
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That’s just like, your opinion man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:55 PM
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Haha yes we know that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:54 PM
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WHAT!!??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:08 PM
3

I think we need to change to be more accepting and welcoming of male emotions and vulnerability. I think women need to normalize asking for consent from men and not assuming that of course they want it just because they are men. I think we need a widespread recognize of the harm and scale of false accusations. It’s shocking to me how many men in my life have false accusations stories. In general, I think women need to question our assumptions more about what men want and what thier motivations a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:30 AM
1

Swagger and good D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:08 PM
1

Well he basically made it his life goal to get good at sex soooo . It was basically his hobby lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:35 AM
1

I hear you. That can certainly be the case. In this case tho he absolutely knew what he was doing. I’ve experienced both. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:49 AM
1

We are both responsible adults who had the discussion prior to sex, use condoms, and get tested regularly. And frankly someone who has been with fewer women but neglects the safe sex practices because he’s “not that type of guy” is MORE likely to have an std
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:33 AM
1

Honestly, I prefer a man who knows what he’s doing, which often correlated to many sexual partners. One of my partners has an n count in the 100s…. For a reason. He’s extremely good at what he does. Works for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 01:51 AM
3

Never ever ever be financially dependent on a man. True equality isn’t possible unless you can freely walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:36 PM
0

Hey lady. I’m 35, men still find me hot and I have no problem dating. Don’t believe the lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:58 PM
1

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:59 PM
1

Don’t get me wrong, I mostly agree with you. That is what women mean when they say that. But man oh man are there plenty of women who do t know how to do this themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:49 PM
3

I honestly think this has more to do with social circle and culture than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:00 PM
6

The problem here is OP is conflating “women” with “emotional maturity.” The truth is most people aren’t emotionally mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:36 PM
2

I’ve seen both, often.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:25 PM
24

That’s right. An older woman the other day gave me some very wise advice that I agree with wholeheartedly. It takes an exceptional man to beat no man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:23 PM
1

I do it to be attractive - to be hotter than other women and for men to think I’m hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:13 AM
4

So I spend 20 min on tinder and my ego is thru the roof…. It’s not actually fulfilling tho, on an interpersonal level. It’s nice to be desired but it’s infinitely nicer to be loved and cared for. That is not something I can hop on tinder to find in 20 min.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:45 PM
14

Having a guy use me as a human flesh light is not getting your social needs met, da fuck is wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:32 PM
1

You think that people thinking rationally will automatically come to the same conclusions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:29 PM
1

Lol at rational being the opposite of cultural
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:50 PM
2

No no nooo. I just get Botox for the hell of it. 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:47 PM
1

Baldness is indeed a death sentence. That being said if you can pull off the shaved head look you’re fine. Shaved head is best with muscles and tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:00 PM
0

I have a much lower libido than one of my partners. We love each other but a monogamous relationship would never work. He has this fantasy of a woman who makes it her job to “keep his balls drained” and I just laugh at him. At least he knows it’s not realistic and has resigned himself to multiple partners. I’m sure as hell not going to make his dick feelings my responsibility. But that’s why I’m poly so ymmv 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:51 PM
9

Lack of effort from the man combined with the pressure of expectation. Is the man who wants bjs also going down on his wife regularly? Being an equal household member? And equal parent? There’s also just that sex changes as relationships progress - it’s more routine and less exciting unless you work to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:34 PM
1

Oh friend here is your mistake! Cold approachs don’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:54 PM
1

Nooooo way. I pity you guys. It’s roough out there for hetero dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:05 AM
2

This is the answer for real
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:04 PM
0

I love getting hit on anytime by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:44 PM
1

Dating today is a dystopian nightmare. Very glad I found a few partners that I love so I can just stop!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:27 PM
1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:15 PM
2

Demand? Since when can another adult force you to do anything? Take responsibility for your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:25 PM
1

You’re really under selling the importance of swager here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:13 PM
2

This is the answer 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:36 PM
1

You must be white lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:20 PM
8

This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:55 PM
9

I’m an attractive woman and I pretty much assume that all men want to fuck me always. Didn’t realize that when I was younger tho 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:30 AM
0

This is the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:01 PM
3

Ain’t that the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:54 PM
17

As another woman I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:24 PM
1

Fine with me. Only becomes your problem when you stick your dick in a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:27 PM
1

You opt in when you stick your dick in a vagina. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:51 PM
1

So the man has no responsibility to the child he helped create? Or to not prevent it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:27 PM
1

What does reproductive autonomy for men look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:07 PM
1

I mean that’s fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:23 AM
2

What’s the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:09 PM
9

Fuck no. It’s your fucking jizz. This is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:09 PM
2

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:43 AM
5

For marriage but not the first choice for fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:08 AM
4

Do you give head?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:19 PM
1

Yes this is exactly it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:09 PM
40

I was bitter and thought most men were rapists. My current partner just treated me with absolute respect and listened to me and didn’t take anything personally (because it wasn’t personal) and over time learning that this one man truly loved me, not just my body, helped me relax my assumptions about other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:23 PM
2

Yeah I mean sounds like cultural change is what you want? I agree with that completely. We need to view each other as humans and treat each other with respect and grace. And get over fairy tale ideas about perfect this or that. Like real honesty and willing to do the work to build something with another person. And I’ll preach to my friends all day about that. I also routinely tell my girlfriends that caring about height is the stupidest. They don’t listen to me tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:17 AM
3

I generally agree with you. I wonder tho if the lack of honesty is just youth or inexperience. I think generally people are pretty bad at knowing what they actually want outside of the easy things like attractive, makes me laugh, etc. and it can be so subjective and individual im not sure it would help men that much unless he’s invested in getting to know the individual. Furthermore, the kind of honestly about catching the ick or what actually turns us on or whatever… I didn’t know and have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:57 AM
3

Yeah I mean I hear you. The dating pool of people who want to date you is smaller than it would be if women were still forced to pair with men they don’t really want. But in the end who wants to be with someone who doesn’t want to be with them? Sounds like women’s desires are what’s the issue here and I think that’s self correcting. Like the smaller pool won’t stay smaller when women can’t get what they want… right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:49 AM
7

What I’m hearing is that womens liberation is in direct conflict with mens fulfillment… is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:45 AM
7

Yeah I suppose I feel that way when I observe an overconfident mediocre dude getting praised. But like, is it really lowering your options, really? Or are women just finally being honest about what we actually want and what you’re experiencing now is reality versus women being forced to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:43 AM
0

Why is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:47 PM
7

I think it’s more that there is not much to be done - you can’t legislate attraction. Interested to hear your ideas tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:46 PM
5

Well… isn’t that the goal when you are trying to court women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:44 PM
1

It’s a certain kind of privilege but it’s not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:43 PM
1

🤷‍♀️ sure! May not be your fault but it’s still your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:41 PM
-2

It’s almost like there are 4 billion women in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:40 PM
2

Not really, it’s still the mens problem. I don’t gaf if someone wants something from me. His problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:39 PM
2

So what? Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:38 PM
1

This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:27 PM
7

Woman here. Yeah a lot of women are ridiculous with their standards (the whole height thing comes to mind). But at the end of the day they are only hurting themselves because impossible standards mean you are alone. I don’t know about inflated egos, I think that’s often a mask for insecurity. But it’s true that there is a supply and demand discrepancy that makes it easier for women to not put in effort in the initial stages and makes it in her best interest to vet aggressively, which I could ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:23 PM
5

Right if a woman’s standards are impossible she’s only hurting herself. Why would you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:17 PM
8

What, exactly, do you want women to be accountable for?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:15 PM
1

Maybe… 15%?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:09 AM
1

Most of what you are saying makes sense to me. Can you elaborate by what you mean by sex being a right? Would this be via sex work … like a government sex work program?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:48 PM
2

Imo a good step would be to legalize and destigmatize sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:27 PM
3

Lol one night stands and FWB?? Nah it’s all about that hitachi life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:26 PM
1

Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:39 PM
2

I mean yeah going after a guy for his money is similarly shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:40 PM
2

Rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:39 PM
8

Honestly I lecture both about misogyny but only fuck the ones I want to fuck haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:33 PM
2

It is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:35 PM
3

Every day baby
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:37 PM
5

Jesus Christ you have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:52 PM
5

Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:44 PM
6

Info: how old are you and where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:44 PM
3

No
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:39 PM
7

Not unless you act creepy aka don’t take no for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:40 PM
0

Well… ok then I guess more power to ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:54 AM
2

But they were sexually attractive to you, right? In some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:07 AM
2

Tell this to the guy yesterday who was telling me that women who “refuse to date thier equals” are greedy 😅😅😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:06 AM
1

What is your evidence for your assertions about women’s motivations?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:24 PM
1

Yeah the issue here isn’t the preferences, its the whining and entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:55 PM
1

Greed: intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food What exactly are women being greedy about in this scenario? As far as I can tell, the intense selfish desire here is to…. Not have sex with someone they don’t want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:22 PM
1

Women who don’t have sex they don’t want are greedy? Ok buddy. Tax single women? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:49 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:29 PM
2

The only solution is women having sex they don’t want?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:29 PM
2

This scares me. Is there any solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:54 PM
5

What happened to your hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:35 PM
-5

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:44 PM
1

Even this… because I can find unsatisfying sex in 15 min just doesn’t seem like a privilege to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:21 PM
1

This is the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:19 PM
-2

Dear lord, if you are talking about deservedness in attraction and dating you have lost your way
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:16 AM
11

This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:14 AM
–

Makes perfect sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:37 PM
1

“Communication” hmm I doubt your claim that you are contributing something positive to society
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:56 PM
1

Congratulations! I’m not saying that it doesn’t exist but it’s definitely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:26 PM
2

It doesn’t have to but generally you can’t make a lot of money doing something that contributes positively to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:53 PM
3

That’s your prerogative. Personally I would rather be with someone who is contributing something meaningful to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:27 PM
2

Why 50/50 despite income disparity? Income has to do with what field you work in, not how hard or long you work, or how important that work is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:47 PM
2

🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:42 PM
24

What…. What world do you live in….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:00 PM
1

Yes, this is how I approach dating men. I haven’t quite found a way to keep the casual stuff going without hurt feelings. At some point you gotta be up front that serious girlfriend option is off the table. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:45 PM
3

I also think a lot of people don’t want strings and mistakenly think they can control their feelings. I’m poly and Ive discovered that even if you really want something jealousy is not always voluntary and there is a learning curve for how to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:23 PM
1

I’m not making moral judgements either and I do agree that men and women are different in a few key areas. I personally don’t think that status seeking is one of them. I think thats a consequence of women’s best way of getting power (still) is with her sexuality, because of both sexism and supply and demand sex differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:11 PM
1

You think? I think the 50 yo woman CEO could pull hot studs with her money and status. You don’t? There are just more powerful men because of sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:08 PM
1

I’m not disagreeing that those happen. I’m saying it’s due to supply and demand, not some idea about women’s “nature”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:31 PM
1

I simply do not agree. Men and women are basically the same. However, sex is higher risk and lower payoff potential for women, and men have a higher sex drive and are generally more visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:10 PM
1

I absolutely believe you. That’s society tho, it’s not some innate trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:24 PM
1

I dunno, me having a good job has seemed to be part of why the men who are attracted to me are. It’s the don’t need you have my own shit thing. A lot of guys find that hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:57 PM
1

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:14 PM
3

I of course we can’t know… but I know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:40 AM
8

You were in a lose lose situation. If you had refused the ride he would have made it a problem as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:21 AM
1

What? 9 month “abortion” is not a thing you are ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:36 PM
4

I’m pretty sure an abortion at 9 months is called a C section 🙄🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:30 PM
13

What! No way. Her story checks out to me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:41 PM
2

No, tattoos are a plus. Honestly I appreciate a broad range of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:47 PM
5

On the contrary, I quite enjoy a nice hard dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:24 PM
8

Just so you know, good sex for women doesn’t have to involve boners at all. FYI
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:56 PM
1

Right?? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:55 PM
10

Best sex of my life has been skinny guys with tattoos. Women don’t care about muscles, we care about if you can turn us on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:54 PM
6

Isn’t it? 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:17 PM
7

I understand you perfectly, and this analysis is spot on. Aligns strongly with the men I go for - who trend asshole because apparently I’d rather have excitement than than boring and nice. Finding that sweet spot I think can be frustrating for men, but if you can get it right man oh man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:50 AM
35

Regressive is the exact right descriptor
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:55 PM
0

It doesn’t have to be a traumatic violation to be wrong. It doesn’t have to have destroyed your life to affect you. It’s ok that you had a different experience as a man, or an individual, or whatever. I’m sorry that happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:03 PM
2

I’m sorry that happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:24 PM
1

Yup. 🙁
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:47 PM
5

Ain’t that the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:12 PM
0

This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:27 AM
1

I am a woman and yes this is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:45 AM
1

Ok that’s a pretty good explanation thanks. I think there’s a lot of truth to that. Women are conditioned not to express our true desires and unlearning that is a long journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:54 PM
1

Jokes on you, women don’t need you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:34 PM
0

Yuppppp
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:39 PM
1

Attracted, bored, doing it to do it 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 09:57 PM
1

That guy from the bar did not make me cum. Safety allows that. However…. I can’t imagine waiting 8 months that’s crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:12 PM
1

Lol no I’m a USian
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:40 PM
3

How old are you? I’ve experienced being slut shamed by men many times, but it depends on the culture
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:06 AM
1

Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 09:01 PM
2

That’s obviously the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 09:01 PM
4

Darn that’s depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:06 PM
6

So every man ever is primarily going to value me for my body and that’s it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:34 PM
2

I mean that’s a recent trend, this makes it sound like this is a message you’ve been taught your whole lives. And believe women is a response to women generally not being believed. I guess if you didn’t know or experience the back story to believe women you could take it as literal women never lie, but most people understand the broader message (I thought)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:31 PM
3

That’s so interesting I really had no idea. Explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:28 PM
5

There’s some truth here. It’s actually a turn off when a guy says that. Like doth protest to much. For guys that actually believe you are equals, it doesn’t generally occur to them that it needs to be pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:25 PM
3

30s, sometimes 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:23 PM
1

Lol sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:22 PM
8

Have we? All I ever hear is misogyny day in and day out. That’s confirmation bias for ya - for both of us
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:47 PM
13

I know this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:46 PM
2

Lol. Not many. They say they do. But most do not. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ I’d rather be single than with a guy who doesn’t see me as an equal. Whatcha gonna do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:45 PM
1

I believe it but man some people are dumb. I like to think I’ve honed my bullshit detector but maybe I’m fooling myself 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:43 PM
7

Lol of course. Nothing wrong with sexual attraction. Now if that’s ALL he wants from me, and is honest about that… I still want him to be honest. I just won’t date him. Of course I want men to be honest about the things that would make me not want to date him. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:38 PM
1

I don’t think most people can fake a personality for the long term (I hope). As for someone saying something that sounds like what someone else says… that’s my whole point to look at actions rather than words. Yes, women need to follow this advice too. I don’t know what you’re on about with astrology- that’s not a thing that intelligent people buy into. I would never date someone who believes something as stupid as star signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:27 PM
2

I think that’s mostly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:23 PM
3

Yes I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:21 PM
1

A lot of guys tell me they like strong independent women, which spoiler alert, most do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:19 PM
3

Because the belief that women are somehow a different kind of human is part of a lot of guys dating problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:18 PM
2

Fair 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:17 PM
4

Because I wouldn’t want to date you I don’t want an honest man? 😅😅😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:16 PM
6

I always ask and listen, yes. I have this terrible problem of taking people at their word which has honestly not served me, at least in dating. If you watch behaviors rather than words it’s pretty clear who is just trying to get sex, who wants the fantasy girl in their heads, and who wants to build a genuine connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:14 PM
4

Good points!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:10 PM
5

Good for you for being honest. Would let me nope right the fuck out from the get go. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:59 PM
2

I’ve heard this a few times, and I think it’s part of the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:57 PM
1

Lol sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:57 PM
13

That’s pretty much my entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:56 PM
5

You are not capable of pulling it off. A lot of men act this way. It’s not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:56 PM
10

Lol no way. In dating men do NOT say what they actually want, like ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:55 PM
5

There is just… so much wrong with this comment and this mindset. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:54 PM
3

Interesting perspective, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:53 PM
2

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:52 PM
8

I think that’s entirely incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:52 PM
3

That’s not the point of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:51 PM
1

Yeah, it’s not bad advice. It’s just not advice that’s unique to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:40 PM
11

That’s my entire point. Men are NOT doing what they say, just like women. It’s the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:39 PM
2

That was just an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:37 PM
4

Hmm. Interesting. As a man you’ve gotten the message that you should take women at their word? I’ve definitely received the opposite message about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:36 PM
5

The hot take is that this does not apply just to women, like I often see argued here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:35 PM
6

…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:33 PM
4

I mean, any guy that tries to date me says that, at least 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:16 PM
2

No no no no no no
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:21 PM
1

Lol no because I will be paying them to get exactly what I want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:41 AM
-1

I would if I could! I wish there were more male prostitute options
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:53 PM
0

Sure you do you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:43 PM
-1

Here’s how I see it. I’m an attractive woman. I make my own money so I don’t need you. I have a Hitachi do I don’t need your dick. You want something from me that in all likelihood will not be worth it for me so I need to be incentivized.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 02:46 PM
2

Nah, i would encourage a teenager to go after her own pleasure. Which could be a high N count but honestly most one night stand dudes are bad in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 02:44 PM
1

Attitude, confidence, good in bed vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:45 PM
1

Dress well, tattoos, well kept beard, and swagger
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:27 PM
5

Nope. Not true you are a rape apologist. Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:08 PM
1

How tf do you lol this creep
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:35 PM
2

This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:40 AM
3

Yeah that’s fair. It takes effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:43 PM
5

Oh yes, plenty of poly explosions 😅 I’m of the opinion that turning a monogamous relationship poly never works. That said, plenty of monogamous explosions as well…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:05 PM
1

I guess this is a guy thing but closeness does not have to come from sex, and there are many different kinds of connections. A partnership is more then being a roommate. Swinging and poly are totally different mentalities - I’ve found swingers to be basically monogamist mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:58 PM
4

This is why I’m poly. I only have sex when I feel like it, and if my partner is horny when I’m not he can hit up his other girlfriend. Everybody wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:28 PM
4

Spoiler: they are the same girl
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:44 PM
1

This has literally never stopped a guy from dating me. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:33 PM
1

Right that’s why there’s child support
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:15 AM
0

“Just don’t be fat” lmao what a stupid ignorant anti-science take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:04 PM
3

Yeah I’d be ok w the paper abortion if the state stepped in to pay the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:59 PM
1

The person who turns me on the most. Isn’t that what good sex is??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:28 PM
1

That too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:26 AM
3

True, but socialization is a powerful thing. There are real tendencies because of how we are raised and what we are taught and the messages we still receive every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:11 AM
5

That I can get behind!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:33 AM
1

No not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:14 AM
1

Not true. My personal experience and that of many other women and gay men says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:10 AM
1

No, Im not. You invented that part in your head. I love men. I don’t think all men are bad. I wish it were safe to give random guys I don’t know compliments but it just isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:53 PM
1

But I’ve said nothing about how all men act.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:10 PM
1

I keep telling you I’m not saying all men. Logic logic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:05 PM
1

I’m not doing any of that. I’m a big fan of giving men compliments when I can do so safely. I understand that men generally don’t get many and it’s a damn shame. You’re upset that I’m prioritizing myself by not being willing to put myself at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:20 AM
1

You said it…. Who believes what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:16 PM
2

The hard truth this sub doesn’t want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:30 AM
1

It’s true and I absolutely don’t think all men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:41 PM
2

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:06 PM
0

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:18 PM
8

I guess I just don’t care? It doesn’t change the core issue of what will benefit me… you know, how all humans behave. Why would we invite risk when we literally will gain nothing, and cherry on top, be blamed if it goes wrong? For what it’s worth, when there isn’t a big risk I go out of my way to give men compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:17 PM
1

This is true, but it doesn’t address the core issue of: what’s in it for the woman? Seriously. We are all humans and want to do things that benefit us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:15 PM
4

“Every day a women is told she is attractive” As an an attractive woman I can tell you confidently that this is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:16 PM
3

This is the answer. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:12 PM
2

Uff, truth bombs right here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:34 PM
1

Laying truth bombs here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:29 PM
1

Truth that won’t be heard
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:30 PM
3

It’s everyone’s job to make the mature choice. This is not a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:05 PM
13

Well then ok. You’re wrong. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:26 PM
17

Having an abortion is not neutral physically, financially, or emotionally. Do I expect men to have a child he doesn’t want? My expectations are irrelevant. That’s up to biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:07 PM
3

Having an abortion is not neutral and not accesible to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:51 PM
14

It’s on him when he blew his load in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:21 PM
3

Correct those are the options because you are an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:18 PM
5

Having an abortion is not neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:17 PM
3

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:17 PM
3

That’s right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:16 PM
12

Sure I hate condoms as much as the next guy. I want to be not pregnant more than that tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:15 PM
21

In what universe is getting pregnant and having a baby no accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:14 PM
0

That’s right. It is what it is. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:14 PM
26

Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:24 PM
72

Wear a condom. Don’t finish in her. This isn’t complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:24 PM
4

Haha!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:45 PM
1

Sounds good
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:33 AM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:14 PM
3

My god every time I think there’s something to be gained from this sub the sexism shines thru. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:36 PM
4

I think that you misunderstand the basis of redistribution. It’s not that inequality is inherently bad in everything, it’s that there are levels of wealth accumulation achieved at the expense of human dignity. It’s not inconsistent at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:34 PM
2

No i hear what you’re saying. That redistribution is the norm idea in society so it makes sense that some folks would misapply that to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:32 PM
3

Yeah I’m following it and your logic is flawed. You can’t compare people to money. How do you redistribute sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:29 PM
5

Money is not the same thing as bodies wtf are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:27 PM
1

Apples and oranges…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:26 PM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:15 PM
17

Omg me too. I got into a discussion with a guy here recently who was insisting that a lack of fairness in dating was a grave injustice. I was flabbergasted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:09 PM
1

Yup that’s what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:46 AM
1

Why MUST it be the same? Why? What’s the reasoning? Edited to add: since as we’ve established, your situation wouldn’t change
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:45 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:43 PM
1

You’re right I’m confused then. How does banning abortion change your options compared to the present situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:41 PM
1

Yikes that’s sad and scary. You’d rather spend your money to take options away from women even though you’re in the same place regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:40 PM
1

Ah ha! Just world. Unfortunately we are animals and the world doesn’t work that way. Can you accept that because of biology there is no way to achieve complete fairness between genders with regards to reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:36 PM
1

I was under the impression that the financial obligation was the thing that you and the OP were concerned with. Is that not true? What other metrics are you concerned with? Yes child and pregnancy support would be necessary if you banned abortions. The thing is your either or are not the only options. Edited to add: banning abortion still doesn’t achieve fairness due to pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:33 PM
1

I’m talking about how the legacy of patriarchy impacts our current society. I also don’t care about dead men. I understand your preference. What doesn’t make sense to me is why the abortion ban is your alternative. Currently, a woman gets pregnant and has the baby you’re on the hook. If you ban abortion and a women gets pregnant, you’re on the hook. So banning abortion takes away options from women, but men are in the same situation. So you’d rather take away freedoms from women in the name of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:07 PM
1

I see. The logic almost makes sense. The problem is you can’t get around biology. Women are the ones who get pregnant. First, abortion is not neutral - it has mental and physical effects - so allowing men to opt out if the woman doesn’t want an abortion isn’t true equality. Second, I don’t agree with your premise because I prefer to look at the world practically and throw out the just world fallacy. Yes, in one way of thinking abortion gives women more options then men because once the pregnancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:47 PM
1

Interesting. What’s the grave injustice here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:36 PM
1

Well, I’m digging into the logic of an abortion ban. Why should abortions be illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:31 PM
1

Huh? I don’t think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:29 PM
1

Is this a real thing? I’m seeing a lot of red flags with the “sort the rest out later” part. What if they decide the woman is lying? How can you even prove that? It’s also inconsistent logically. Why ban abortions but make an exception for rape? Either abortion is bad or it isn’t, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:27 PM
1

Are we talking about a rape exception to an abortion ban? That’s impractical on many levels. Edit for clarity: I’m specially talking about the impracticality (not to mention moral issues) with proving rape
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:16 PM
1

Are you thinking theoretically or practically?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:10 PM
1

As long as abortion is legal!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:08 PM
1

Because abortion bans are scary. “don’t engage in PIV sex if you don’t want the risk of of pregnancy” doesn’t work when it’s not up to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:07 PM
1

I don’t understand what you’re asking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:05 PM
1

Why not what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:59 PM
1

That is an option! The rape exception is carrying a lot of weight here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:58 PM
1

Yeah scary scary shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:53 PM
1

PIV sex always has the potential for pregnancy (except for vasectomy, tubes tied, infertility…). If a person of any gender engages in PIV sex, they are agreeing to the possibility of a pregnancy. For any gender, if there is a baby at the end of pregnancy that isn’t put up for adoption, the parents are responsible for that child. You agreed to that responsibility when you engaged in PIV sex. Abortion is up to the woman because only women get pregnant. It’s not “fair” but that’s just the way it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:47 PM
0

The logic almost makes sense. The thing is, abortion isn’t neutral physically or psychologically. I don’t think we should be creating a situation where the woman has to choose between abortion or being financially fucked because that’s a different kind of coercive. I’d like to see a world where everyone takes responsibility for their reproduction. There’s so many ways to prevent pregnancy. If you’re a woman who doesn’t want a child - go on birth control, use condoms, etc If you’re a man who does…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:18 PM
0

Fairness is not a concept that applies here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:28 PM
1

Interesting. My life experience has been very different. I suspect it’s cultural. I’m not backed into a corner tho? So I’m not sure where you’re getting that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:44 PM
1

I read “that’s how women argue 101” as contempt. Was that not your intention?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:37 PM
1

Let’s take a step back and clarify. I read “that’s how women argue 101” as derisive. Was that not your intent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:33 PM
1

I’ve done a lot of research on this and the science is not at all conclusive and subject to confirmation bias. Basically yes in some ways different areas in our brain light up for some stimuli but there’s not a lot of evidence that impacts our cognitive skills. There is a TON of evidence that men and women are basically the same in how we think in any meaningful way. That being said, socialization is very real and our environment and upbringing impact our thought patterns and brain structures. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:28 PM
1

I also get annoyed with people who jump to the racist and sexist labels. But shit man when it’s an egg it’s an egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:24 PM
1

What am I diverting from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:18 PM
1

It is. Men and women don’t think differently in any meaningful way - we are all humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:17 PM
1

My god this sub is a cesspool of misogyny. You are aware that women are people….. right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:13 PM
1

Not avoiding. Declining to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:59 PM
1

This has really devolved into a useless discussion. Rage and hate is no way to live good luck. ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:42 PM
1

Bro…. That’s not what happened. But yes when you have shameful opinions feeling ashamed is the appropriate response.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:37 PM
1

You were defending the claim so I thought you might have some insights. The question was directed at both of you or anyone else that wants to chime in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:36 PM
1

No. Im asking about an aspect of the topic I am interested in. No one has an obligation to respond. Isn’t that the whole point of this sub? It’s not a men’s space - it’s a discussion space.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:26 PM
6

You’re welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:24 PM
1

Ah. This makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:23 AM
1

What has led you to this belief? Do you honestly not know any professional women? Again I ask, how old are you? This reads like an angsty 20 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:39 PM
6

Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:32 PM
1

Yes, believing that professional women are basically unicorns is very misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:25 PM
3

….. ….. Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:31 PM
1

So… straight men want to date… anyone? Is that what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:12 PM
1

Maybe I’m missing something. Can you explain the origin of the disbelief? Edit: I’m not trolling, I’m very curious. Do you not know any professional women? The idea that women with careers are rare boggles my mind. Like… what?Where do you guys live? What have your life experiences been that led you to this conclusion? I’m genuinely trying to understand your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:11 PM
1

Yes it is bro. A) why would you question that? It’s pretty normal. B) he claimed that no women are actually career woman. This is misogyny in big blaring letters, and im Noh one to jump to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:44 PM
1

What was the “legitimate” question? Whether I’m actually a career woman even those don’t exist supposedly? No, Im not going to engage with straight up misogyny thank.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:38 PM
2

That’s sad. We need to break the gender bonds of men!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:36 PM
1

I get that. My confusion is why you’d want to date someone you can’t take at face value. If a women gets pissed you didn’t pay and there’s no second date, isn’t that dating working how it’s supposed to? You go out, find out you’re not compatible, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:18 PM
2

Yeah?? That’s what I thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:42 PM
4

Sure. I dislike transactional attitudes towards dating from both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:30 PM
2

Yeah talking to men who date women this seems to be true. I can thank being raised by a second wave feminist. Never mind the crippling perfectionism, status obsession, and workaholic toxicity…. It’s all good I’m fine really 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:28 PM
2

Yeah I agree with the OP that Dutch is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:19 PM
1

I usually pay my own way unless the guy insists. If I asked him out I pay. The vetting for sexism happens at all phases of dating. I’m surprised and dismayed that so many women have the expectation of being paid for. Money is power - if I pay my own way it avoids weird entitlement and we set a precedent for a mutually respectful relationship. That being said the gender pay gap is real. My rule of thumb is that people should pay proportionally to what they make. Yes when I date guys who make less…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:15 PM
2

I mean… we have to vet out the 95% of men who are sexist. So I guess join the club?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:04 PM
8

I mean… maybe the women are looking for something different then what you are looking for? And that’s ok? Dating is about connection not transactions in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:35 PM
3

Backbone? This isn’t an argument? I’m curious about experiences that are outside of my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:31 PM
3

I’ll tell you how many degrees I have if you tell me how old you are. 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:31 PM
3

Maybe it is typically true. It’s not true in my bubble. Which is why I’m like wait what.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:29 PM
7

Hey you’re pretty hostile. I’m not questioning your experiences, but it’s pretty weird that you’re questioning mine 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:52 PM
5

Do you mind if I ask how old you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:36 PM
5

I’m curious what that looks like? Do they stare at you when the bill comes? That’s so weird to me. None of my friends are like this but we are all career women. I think I live in a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:24 PM
10

Is this true? I’m a woman who has dated A LOT in my life and usually we go Dutch or the guy absolutely insists on paying. Honestly the insist on paying ones never work out, I wonder why 🧐 I’m not negating your experiences, genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:20 PM
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