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wiking85/r/MensRights03/01/13 06:53 PM
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Nowadays they just import more men (the bulk of immigrants) and families from foreign countries.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:18 PM
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Where do you live? There is a few cities where this is possible due to sex ratios, the rest don't really work like that.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:14 PM
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Where do you live though? I swear every guy who says tinder works lives in a major city like NYC, which is the result of a male shortage in that city rather than the app working in general.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:13 PM
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I think you mean Ukraine given their losses, but those women are now hoeing around Europe as refuges instead.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:12 PM
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Maybe for foreign guys. Though my German roommate in college who was very fit and decent looking and studying to be a doctor couldn't pull American girls at all, but had zero problem back in Germany.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/22 08:47 PM
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Especially when they've all become cutthroats that sell out as soon as they can.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/22 08:44 PM
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Rich, handsome guys have it easier in the US. Doesn't matter what race. It's just that there are more white guys who are rich and decent looking than any other demographic. That doesn't mean you can just be white and succeed in America and even if you are decent looking and have a decent income it is still playing on hard mode, harder than ever before in history. Self improvement only takes you so far, at some point you have to be aware of the meta-game and realize that certain countries/situati…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/22 08:43 PM
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Any links to articles about location independent income?
/r/TheRedPill14/10/22 08:34 PM
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Pretty much what I said, but rather than no one, more like not the guys she's interested in.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/22 11:44 AM
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Sure, but generally inexperienced girls tend to be clingy and lack dating confidence.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/22 11:42 AM
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Maturing tends to come after 30 and once looks start to fade and the realities of work kick in the dopamine hits drop and she has to confront reality.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/22 09:46 PM
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For a hookup, not a relationship. They just don't want a clingy girl and a girl without any self confidence.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/22 09:38 PM
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Money. They can have more affiliated troops. One of my coworkers has a relative that works for the national org and they were saying how badly the Scouts was doing financially after the lawsuits, so this is a money grab.
/r/MensRights07/03/22 12:17 PM
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The larger and organization becomes the more bureaucratic and flabby it becomes. It becomes progressively more difficult to change entrenched habits. People get cushy jobs and the older they become the less they like change.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 08:51 PM
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They divide the groups so the male and female troops are separate, probably for that reason.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 07:07 PM
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Right, because not even girls want to join the Girl Scouts. The org got pissed at the Boy Scouts for opening their ranks to females, since it helps put their org in a death spiral.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 07:06 PM
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Boys weren't joining the Boy Scouts and there as of course the huge molestation scandal, so they had to open to women or fold. Besides they were little more than a training ground for basic skills for military use and heavily outdated. We just need to build and police strong male spaces. Sports for that reason are probably the best thing to push for young men since it is a lot harder for women to invade.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 07:06 PM
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Because that is how militaries have always functioned. The state only functions by force and coercion. Too many interests, male and female are served by young men being forced to fight for others.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 07:02 PM
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Things like epigenetics are a thing, which turn on or off genes based on environmental/lifestyle cues in a matter of a generation or 4, but that isn't evolution per se. For rapid population genetics shifts you'd need something like a mass extinction event, like major wars or massacres, since that would change what sorts of genes get passed on and how many different Y chromosomes survive. You could see potential major physical macroevolution for certain populations if say during a conquest there …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:59 PM
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Arnold only got married after his was big and she was cheating on him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:21 PM
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I don’t see why men should let women do that, either? Men shouldn’t let women just take advantage of them. Most men don't have a choice if they don't want to be alone forever. Women can’t trust that wouldn’t happen either, I know plenty of older women whose husbands left them for someone younger, and this is common enough I would be skeptical you haven’t seen it yourself. Probably much more to the story than just 'hey look someone younger, I'll get divorced and pay out the nose for it just for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:20 PM
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China is the most powerful country on Earth. You're basing that on...?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:22 PM
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Capitalism in the US has long since died, we're just a kleptocracy at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:21 PM
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Some. Many won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:20 PM
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Women generally don't help their male friends get hooked up anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:19 PM
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A strategy to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:18 PM
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Biology doesn't evolve that quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:17 PM
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USSR and Yugoslavia were thriving under government run economy post WW2. Thriving isn't the right word, they were rebuilding, which gives artificially boosted growth rates; when they finished rebuilding they stagnated and ultimately collapsed, because the systems were not set up to handle non-crisis situations. Central planning only goes so far and is a terrible way to actually try to manage a stabilized economy. There is a reason China abandoned that economic model and why the USSR collapsed an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:16 PM
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Modern technology has fucked up everyone. Couple that with pollution, not having enough to do to actually directly survive (helps anchor us in reality), most people having no community to keep them on the straight and narrow, and a media culture that promotes anti-social behavior and and we have a toxic brew of individual and social dysfunction. Women just as much as men are throw off by it and act like drug addicts chasing a high they get from this stuff because we all have had our brain chemis…
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 11:11 PM
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Patrice was a bitch, he only got women because he was famous. If you listen enough to him you'd have found out his history on that. She only wanted him because he was the best she could do after being a single mom in her 30's and then has coasted on money donated by his friends and doing a documentary about him.
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 11:05 PM
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Are you not aware of the huge crime surge of the 1960s-90s? The movies reflected the era.
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 01:01 AM
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Our nature is to live in small hunter-gatherer communities and not have things like social media, cell phones, and a globalized dating market. Even the alpha-beta dynamic and 'only the top 20% of men breed' is a distortion of our nature caused by 'civilization'. It was never supposed to actually be like that per evolution, so the behavior we're seeing today is how our genetics are distorted by modern technology and the resulting social organization; it is completely opposite from our evolved bio…
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 02:11 PM
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If i had to choose between a super shy “Nice” guy vs a man thats confident , strong , protective and gives off alpha male energy I’ll definitely pick the confident and strong guy. And this is how women end up with abusive guys.
/r/seduction28/04/21 12:27 AM
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What were the rates before Covid?
/r/MGTOW11/03/21 03:55 PM
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Its emotional communication; women want someone who speaks their language.
/r/seduction05/03/21 01:20 AM
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Have you not been paying attention for at least the 20 years? This has been the entire media narrative around this stuff. The message has been don't approach and respect women for most of my life.
/r/seduction05/03/21 12:23 AM
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I'm sure you're right, but am explaining why guys don't approach IRL nearly as much anymore. Covid is of course making things worse.
/r/seduction04/03/21 10:21 PM
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Take it up with the sisterhood, I've heard so many complaints from women online, in the media, and real life about it that it feels like the bulk of women hate it and just want not to be approached and would rather everything is done through online dating. Maybe that's why the dating scene is so dysfunctional.
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:27 PM
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Was this a pre-covid thing? Why don't you approach? That's kind of what women have been telling guys recently, don't approach women in public, that's harassment.
/r/seduction04/03/21 07:18 PM
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Sorry buddy, not interested in your onlyfans
/r/seduction01/03/21 01:28 AM
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Right...I'm sure you're 100% honest
/r/seduction01/03/21 01:00 AM
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Yeah, if you don't mind dating girls just like that as well.
/r/seduction01/03/21 12:16 AM
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Not enough self blowjob.
/r/seduction24/02/21 11:14 PM
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No its the communicator's fault for not being more clear in their explanation. You don't blame the student for not getting something if the teacher isn't explaining it accurately and fully.
/r/seduction17/02/21 09:34 PM
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Yes. Normal women don't post on reddit.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 11:36 PM
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Got a link to who you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:00 PM
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You mean the 6'4" famous professional athlete with money?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:40 PM
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Women will aggressively pursue sex if the dude is hot Some women maybe, most done even if they think a guy is hot; most still need a guy to approach them unless he's famous/got a ton of social status. They usually will not approach some rando unless he's like top 5% hot. See all the jokes about guys getting fit and dressing well only to find it's gay guys hitting on them, not women. The men become beta Nah, they just lose mystery when cohabitating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 02:43 PM
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Sex is not the endgoal of the female sex so men having low standards for fucking anything til they, alone, orgasm means nothing to us. You must be fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 02:34 PM
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Guess that is why the trans craze is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 02:33 PM
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I don't interact with women with that in their profiles, but that limits my options. Thing is guys are plentiful in OLD, quality women are extremely scarce and quickly find someone. Competition among guys is fierce on those dating sites. So 'turn about is fair play' gets you sidelined real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:04 AM
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Depends on the guy and the age. Thing is most career women are already married to their job, so guys don't go for that because it means being 2nd fiddle in the relationship. That and often career women tend to act better than most men, so if anything it's career women rejecting most guys not at 'her level' financially/in social status rather than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:03 AM
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Compared to being celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:01 AM
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If you're a 5/10 going after 7/10 guys is still swinging for the fences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:01 AM
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Were you shooting outside of your league? Or picking guys already taken?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:00 AM
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Women tend to get in their own ways by never letting guys know they're interested. Also just because guys pump and dump a fat chick doesn't mean that's a love life you want to emulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:59 AM
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Guys with a ton of options (i.e. the top 25% or so), but then they're out of the league of a 5 woman. Most men would love a 5 they can have a good relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:58 AM
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If you do the Cartman voice and put some lipstick on it you've got a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:57 AM
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A woman who can make a guy feel good about himself is never going to be short of male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:56 AM
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Have you been on dating sites? The height thing is a cliche at this point. Some even mention dick size straight up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:56 AM
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So they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:55 AM
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If they have money/game/social status to compensate. Really consider how ugly a male 3 is. That probably involves being overweight in addition to being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:54 AM
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A 5 can beat a 7 if she's got a good personality/disposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:54 AM
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I'd say the dressing well thing only helps if you're still doing the approaching and have decent game. It enhances your chances if everything else is on point with your approach/conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:53 AM
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That's probably more about signaling having money as a guy; if he can afford to dress up well he probably has some bank to get a personal stylist and get designer clothes. For guys being fit and wearing even cheap clothes that show that off will get you a much higher ROI than being a fatbody with style.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:51 AM
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Bullshit, women cheat on ambitious guys all the time. They just say he isn't giving her enough attention because he's too busy working. Plus a bunch of women stick with absolute lazy losers because they're hot or they're desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:50 AM
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Also 19/20 physically attractive women are dating physically attractive men. Including on the side when they're officially in a relationship with a rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:48 AM
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Nah, women don't care so much about the sorts of things makeup helps, it's more about enhancing features that typically signal more testosterone. That is unless the girl in question is into the K-pop type of pretty guy. Woman have and utilize so many tools to be more attractive because that is what matters to men. Not really, it's just that utilizing them is the highest ROI in terms of being approached by hot guys. Also the appearance side of it for women only really matters just for hookups, a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:46 AM
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Men don’t bother with makeup or waist trainers because they don’t have to, because their looks are not the central determinant of perceived value. Eh, not exactly. Maximizing looks unless you've got the right bone structure/frame for men just isn't enough to get girls. Guys focus on all the other stuff instead, because it is a higher ROI if they don't have the height, larger frame, or facial bone structure to have success on looks alone or at least coupled with minimal success in the other areas…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:42 AM
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I know plenty of guys who've gotten laid off the rumor they had a big dick and size queens are quite vocal about their preference. In fact there are subreddits about women admiring guys with large genitalia. Granted it is only modern society which has made it a big issue, but don't act like it's only something that comes up in the bedroom. Everything else is important but can be eclipsed by money, status and lifting Being a wallet for someone doesn't mean you're even getting laid. Lifting if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:39 AM
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Toxoplasmosis
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:26 AM
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The average woman has much higher standards then the average man, as they require much more than just minimal appearance requirements. So no, it isn't easier for an unattractive man to find a partner, if anything it is worse if you factor in unattractive being more than just his face structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:26 AM
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Women don't? Height? Penis size? Facial structure? All those things are more harshly judged on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:23 AM
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men, worldwide, literally have the vast majority of social, economic,and political power. No, a small elite have power, including some women. The vast majority of men, at least 99%, lack any sort of power socially. Women on the other hand have much more social power in the West even at lower levels, hence why most homeless are male, same with suicides, same with deaths at work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:20 AM
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When you get women and men to stop being attracted to appearance let us know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:18 AM
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Probably lack of alternatives for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:13 AM
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Huh? Not everyone is everyone's cup of tea, but standards for women are not rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:10 AM
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Wouldn't date either TBH. Friend up the less than attractive girl though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:09 AM
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That's the point, is the juice worth the squeeze?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:15 AM
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I was referring just to the dating part being not fun and not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:00 AM
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I've been saying this for years, it's about time someone besides me caught on. That's what the MGTOW guys have been saying for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 11:52 PM
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Yeah, you're not bitter at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:09 PM
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So everything women complain about, they should STFU about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:16 PM
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r/ihavesex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:55 PM
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That's my point, you have to have that as part of the overall date, because intellectual convo will get you nowhere romantically if you're not also more physically attractive than your convo partner (in their own eyes that is). It has to be flirting PLUS more serious convo.
/r/seduction20/01/21 11:27 PM
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Yeah, not something I have a problem with. Leads to good convo, not much else.
/r/seduction20/01/21 09:16 PM
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Tried that, got friend zoned.
/r/seduction20/01/21 08:36 PM
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Never been on Onlyfans in any capacity. Been trying mostly in real life (pre-covid) after giving up on OKcupid.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre16/01/21 03:15 PM
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maybe find a not-so-hot girl with a good head on her shoulders Where might those be? Been looking a long time and have yet to find one.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre15/01/21 05:17 PM
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Yup, I don't recall clowns being known as lady's men.
/r/seduction06/01/21 09:30 PM
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I'm sure you're a fine fiction writer, but I don't have time for make believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 07:34 PM
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So he's wealthy enough to have an exciting life. You're burying the lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 07:05 PM
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So why are you arguing here anyway instead of living your life? Seems like you care what strangers think after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:55 PM
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Part of the problem with these stats is correlation does not necessarily imply causation. The classic example is how it was thought that reading to your kids would increase their IQ when it turned out that it was more genetic factors, so parents who actually read to their kids were more likely to be readers themselves and thus their kids genetically had the predisposition to be more literate than average. Parental influence actually matters quite a bit less than has been thought based on the lat…
/r/MensRights16/12/20 01:55 PM
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If you're going to invest in a skillset, why not invest in yourself as a product rather than your pitch as a salesman? I'd rather just be the most attractive and seductive man I can be, rather then a guy with really great game. Your achievements in life speak for themselves. Because unless you're exceptionally physically attractive there is more payoff to improving your 'game' than your life. Improved life with weak game means ending up either without a relationship or a shity one when you can't…
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:50 PM
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If you do the self-improvement work, act like a fucking man, and talk to women, the rest pretty much works itself out. That's all the pitch stuff, not improving your product. Once again packaging trumps everything else. Quit trying to scam women and just make yourself a quality option, it's that simple. Then why are a bunch of quality guys with good careers and finances not more successful in relationship, but there are so many losers who are?
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:46 PM
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Yet a bunch of guys are successful in selling their shitty product. Improving your marketing skills is a lower cost method than upgrading the product. Same as in the business world. Despite all the claims, even good products don't sell without good marketing. Best strategy is to fix the easy stuff in your life and work on your marketing skills rather than grind away on self improvement and not developing the marketing aspect. It is really only the truly exceptional men who can get away with coas…
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:45 PM
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Not necessarily, I've seen fat guys do really well for themselves, but they tended to be out of high school and college and over 6 feet while having decent personalities and confidence. Generally though fit guys will have it easier, though not necessarily just due to appearance; being fit tends to mean you'll have higher testosterone, which tends to improve mood in men and make them more active and will help with more positive socialization. It will also help with the way you carry yourself and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:27 PM
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Being skinny or even fit isn't a guarantee success unless you're also handsome and tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 05:32 PM
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It sounds so easy /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:34 PM
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Sure, but they have fame. Social proof is pretty huge for a lot of women and being famous is the ultimate social proof.
/r/seduction15/10/20 01:53 AM
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I've seen guys with very basic personalities, but are hot, get women fawning over them. As long as you aren't socially retarded and are willing to initiate you'll do very well if you're good looking.
/r/seduction15/10/20 01:52 AM
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Yeah, different situation in the US in general. Also Italian women being hard to approach in public by Italian men is quite a bit different than the internet scene where you don't have to worry about physical danger and/or social fallout. I'm thinking your city/country is quite a bit different than the situation American OLD presents.
/r/seduction12/10/20 09:29 PM
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Where do you live? That might work in NYC where there are more women than men of dating age, but in smaller towns and more gender balanced or imbalanced in the other direction cities that isn't going to work; if anything it will wreck your self esteem.
/r/seduction12/10/20 08:50 PM
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'Equals' is an artificial constraint that exists only in their own minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:56 AM
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They're not hot, rich, and have a personality that meshes with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:25 PM
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it's surprising how hard it is to find a well educated (single) guy who also has qualities I want in a partner. Why is that surprising? Most women with some status have insane standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:22 PM
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I'm interested for you to expand on this. My understanding (please tell me if I'm misinterpreting) is that you discourage women who want successful marriages from pursuing high earning careers and having casual sex. As a generalization, yes. I'm not saying that women shouldn't pursue those careers if that is what they want, but understand the opportunity cost to doing so. Still, it's insane to expect someone to really understand what they want out of life at 18 when your brain is still developin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:42 PM
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Nope. Because there are a limited number of people who people can feel genuinely enthusiastic about and there aren't people for a huge part of the population, just people they feel 'meh' about that they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:06 PM
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Better than 10% and better than absolutely nothing. Especially if they demonstrate that they're willing to grow together and adapt. Good for you that you've never had to settle, but guess what, the majority of humanity will at some point if they want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:40 PM
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Who said the majority prefer it this way? We're just trying to survive in the society we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:32 PM
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Everyone is the hero in their own story.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:26 PM
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You won't really see it in real life, because you're not around those people or they're at least not telling you the truth, because most people hate looking sad and pathetic when talking to anyone, even friends. Of course the internet is the place for people to anonymously vent, but we also have stats about the rise in depression and suicides, drop in sexual activity among Millennials and Gen Z, the obesity crisis, general complaints about OLD, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:15 PM
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Some people get 100% of what they want. Some get 75%. Some don’t get more than 10% I’d much rather have a shot at 100% than be married off early to someone who doesn’t even give me 10%. Even if I don’t get 100%, I at least have a chance at getting it Frankly that's a silly thought. Getting 10% maybe more common than 100%, but much more likely you can get 50-70% if you're basically selective and frankly that is good enough to be happy in a relationship. Holding out for 100% is what is making peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:13 PM
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Sure there are some (not sure what 'plenty' breaks down to in terms of percentages) who do, but there is a growing number of both men and women (plenty of them) who are really unhappy with dating and relationships, which indicates there serious issues in the dating market/scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:06 PM
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That was exactly my point - the person I’m responding to is trying to argue that hot women should marry beta schlubs. My point is that women, like men, want an attractive partner I didn't get that read from the person you're talking to, if anything you're projecting that view on to what they're saying. Of course men and women value different personality traits and aesthetics. But both genders want the best, most attractive partner possible The argument is what is actually possible for them for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:04 PM
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Eh? Where does that come from? I think MGTOW and MRAs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:49 PM
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They actually do in most cases; it's a fiction that you can have 'love at first sight' thanks to Rom-Coms, Disney, and sleeping around with hot guys who just use them for sex. When men start lining up to marry acne-riddled hambeasts, then I’ll concede that you have a point. So men should have to marry someone much less attractive and in fact probably has some emotional/psychological issues leading to being morbidly obese rather than looking for someone who is a looks match and matches their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:38 PM
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Sure, their claim is that women have unrealistic relationship standards for what they bring to the table and what is actually out there. At some point 'good enough' is better than holding out for nothing and end up having to 'make do' with transient sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:35 PM
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It's not news within the manosphere either. Their issue is that women have unrealistic standards for a relationship, not that they shouldn't have any, and are actively hurting their relationship prospects by sleeping around and pursuing high earning careers while waiting to find 'Mr. Perfect'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:33 PM
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Cities tend to attract and actively make worse creeps, predators, and the mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 10:34 PM
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I've found that as a guy waiting to make a move will mean the woman thinks I'm not interested and will move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 10:28 PM
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Children aren’t and shouldn’t be used as anti-loneliness devices, genetic trophies or life purposes. That’s pretty selfish, don’t you think? Reproducing is selfish period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:20 AM
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it was based on a book written by a real life version of the protagonist Funny you mention that: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7295837/Sex-City-writer-admits-regrets-choosing-career-having-children.html
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:10 AM
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What's hilarious is that SATC was written by a gay man and portrayed more of a gay male lifestyle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Star
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:35 AM
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Got some numbers to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:51 PM
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As if women didn't (and don't) also beat men? Women just complain more about it: https://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:09 PM
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I was referring more to technology and general prosperity. People's lives were rough 100 years ago and alcohol helped people cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 01:46 PM
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Which was only ever a minority of women. And the ban on alcohol was about 100 years ago in a very different country and economy where life generally sucked if you weren't rich or at least middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 01:34 PM
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I was saying in the context of what it says about women. It focuses on the basic commonalities though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 08:16 PM
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I'm saying the theory is more diverse than you present above.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 08:01 PM
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It's whataboutism to point out this isn't limited to one gender or perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:39 PM
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If they weren't hung up on sex they would enjoy romance more. If women had the male sex drive they wouldn't be so hung up on romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 06:18 PM
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Most guys would probably think it's a trick and say no too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 06:12 PM
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r/redpillwomen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:24 PM
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there is some indication that femspergs are rarer than their male counterparts I highly doubt that, they just don't necessarily present the male/traditional way, so you don't see the symptoms as easily 'in the wild'. I work in a field with a lot of spectrum people, both male and female, and the women are noticeable, but you wouldn't think they are on the spectrum necessarily, just weird or maybe bitchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:20 PM
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Couldn't a lot of the differences be avoided here if men just sought more women who were also on the spectrum? Where do you find those women and don't they come with their own host of problems? I've met many autistic women and haven't really seen too many capable of healthy relationships. Two autists together aren't naturally going to bond, it might well end up being people unable to read each other and fighting a lot over their understanding of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:18 PM
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You could honestly apply all that to Feminism and FDS as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:15 PM
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A lot of guys in the manosphere can't take responsibility for their part in relations with others. They can't or refuse to see it, or at least won't acknowledge it online. They'd be more at peace, and might even start heading in the right direction if they did. Same with Feminists and the womansphere. If you're complaining about gender politics stuff in general you're probably not realizing your own role in your personal issues with that stuff. Plus having a whole quasi-religious theory about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:14 PM
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Depends on the situation. Sometimes no amount of trying is going to help and it's better to spend your energy where the reward will be higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:25 PM
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To a point, there are hard limits on what is possible to change. The 'plasticity' of the brain is often exaggerated to give people hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:52 PM
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Gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:49 PM
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What unrealistic standards? Have you met the average guy and asked him what he wants in a partner? You need to stop paying attention to media and interpreting what real people want based on what you see on TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:48 PM
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So? I didn't have sex until I was 24 and have had exactly one serious relationship in my life. I know tooons of single girls who haven't ever been in a serious relationship and who aren't exactly tripping over dick in their every day lives. Sounds like the problem is them then. The fact is with population being what it is for every lonely guy there is an equally lonely woman out there having the same bad luck. Do you seriously think all women are just passing the same 20% of guys between them an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:46 PM
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Women complain about anything and everything to bond with one another. Those that focus on all their dating and relationships problems tend to be the source of their own problems, so simply accepting those complaints as 100% accurate and valid devoid of context is beyond retarded. It isn't really all that hard to find someone to have a great relationship with, you just need to be willing to work at it and be willing to change yourself, it's just that most people haven't actually be brought up to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:41 PM
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It’s the same way how women’s period cycles sync together when living together with each other for a while. That's a myth: https://www.livescience.com/58687-menstrual-cycle-sync-myth.html
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:22 PM
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Publicly. The real question is what people were thinking privately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 06:00 PM
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I'd put money on it being a negative in more cases than a positive in general. Probably. Just saying not always, especially for girls who are interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:00 PM
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All? No. But I've in part gotten laid by mentioning my N count and the girls in question were impressed. One literally said as she was taking off my pants "I want to see the cock that (x-number) of women have fucked".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:38 PM
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Probably. Question is whether its a nature v nurture issue given that mental health is declining for both males and females across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 12:59 PM
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Eh, sort of true sort of not. Low and high N count guys become bitter and jaded, but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 11:55 AM
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Generally incels like Rodgers have mental issues as well; Rodgers had some form of Aspergers among other issues and refused to take prescribed medications or see his psych and was badly bullied in school: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings#Mental_health_and_social_problems Much the same with all the other incel killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 11:52 AM
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You're buying into the media narrative about the generation, not the reality of it. Same with the 1920s generation. Or the WW2 generation, which was more promiscuous than people generally want to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 11:19 AM
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70% of men are overweight or obese (same is true of women, with a higher percentage of women obese). It's not a gendered issue. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 03:00 PM
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So ELI5, how do you 'do it right'?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:02 PM
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Praeto principle is badly overused.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:40 PM
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Not sure I buy that. Based on the numbers it's probably more like 40% of guys who aren't doing well. The top 40% are crushing it to varying degrees (the higher up you are in the top 40% the better it is) while guys who are middling 4-6 out of 10 on the attractiveness scale aren't celibate. It's the 1s-4s who are having the problem, while it's only the 1s-2s of women who are celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:15 PM
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I don't actually buy into that specific framing; it's more, at least in the cases that it's true, that he sick of her behavior/attitude/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:09 PM
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How much of it was muscle and water retention?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:53 AM
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Keto works because of the lack of insulin spikes. I ate fat and a limited amount of protein without counting any calories and actually eating a lot and still lost 30 pounds without working out without any loss in muscle mass (checked repeatedly throughout with a body fat composition machine). Calories in and out is the worst fallacy anyone has pushed on society. Sorry, but you were doing it really wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:02 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovulatory_shift_hypothesis#Meta-analyses
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:34 PM
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It's post-menopause, not in the 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:22 PM
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A shitty personality and behavior will kill attraction. A lot of women really underestimate how annoying they are. The Madonna/Whore thing is the same for women too and is probably more 'familiarity breeds contempt' more than anything. Once you see how someone really lives and is it often a turn off. Same with once the Honeymoon phase wears off and all the cute stuff just becomes annoying. Let's not forget life stress and bad diets having an impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:18 PM
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What were you eating? What you eat is more important than calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:13 PM
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Yes? The point was they weren't fleeing a repressive culture, they were going to a place with few young men, which meant a lot of women who were available that they'd never have access to otherwise, and better pay for a better life. Not exactly the same reasons, but similar to why Euros were fleeing Europe for America once colonization opened up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:09 PM
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Question is how to make her feel sexy in the way that turns her on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:00 PM
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That study was debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:59 PM
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If I want sex with a woman, I am going to be honest and upfront about it... no apologies. If it works so well why are there so many women complaining about creeps hitting on them and dead bedrooms when guys keep trying to go for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:57 PM
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Economic migration. Germany was rich and needed workers after WW2 killed off half the work force, Turkey had too many people relative to available jobs that paid decently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:46 PM
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I think it's actually like 23 when they did surveys. 19 was the preference until 30 and there after it raises slowly to 22-25. But they were just asking about looks not everything else IIRC.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:05 PM
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Oh I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it tends to be much less common than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:01 PM
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The notion that you could be unattractive as an 18 year old, and be attractive as a 40 year old. You seem to think that can't happen. It can happen, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily common or that a 40 year old man who only became attractive at 40 or in his 30s to date a woman in her 30s or 40s who was attractive at 18 and is not by 40. Disagree. There are plenty of men who seek out younger women. Of course there is a non-zero number who do, but that is quite a bit different from a married…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:00 PM
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So what are you actually arguing about? What do you care what anyone else thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:54 PM
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What is hot at 35 is different from 19 otherwise 35 year old single women would be sleeping with a bunch of guys 10 years or more younger and trying to settle down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:53 PM
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Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:52 PM
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No, it's saying that a man is so perfect at that age that he can never better himself. You're basing that on...? I mean, I think it's complex. There is also a trope of man leaves his middle aged wife for the hot young sectretary. Should that mean that women should not marry or divorce when she hits 30 because he will obviously leave her for a younger model? No, because some shitty people are just shitty people. How many men have a secretary by the time they are middle age? That's a very specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:52 PM
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Are you a TRP troll? Because you're literally sounding like a caricature of what those guys say bitter women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:40 PM
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Sure, and no guy owes her anything either. Remember turn about is fair play and your attitude is why the TRP exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:37 PM
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you’re a horrible person for having the audacity to change & want better for yourself after having life experiences. Most really don't think like that, just the ones who are younger and are struggling emotionally with the world being the way it is. It's more an issue of them looking out for their own interests when they're attractive enough to have options. they expect (mostly) naive 18-24 year old women to be mature enough to know exactly what they want & to know all about smv & to do everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:37 PM
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So what's the big deal? Because average women get to have that phase in their teens and twenties and average guys often don't. If they make it through and are attractive in their 30s that is when they get to have their experimental phase, at least in the society as it has been in the last 50 years of so. Again not all guys, if you're attractive in your 20s as a guy you can have that experimental phase (attractive in any way, not just physically...though that physical is really important to hooki…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:32 PM
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This seems to indicate that men believe they are perfect at 19, and have no capacity for more growth. Its more that they understand no one is perfect at 19 and see imperfect women lust after older guys or at least the top tier 19 year old guys instead of getting with the guys that are similarly imperfect and of the same age. Maybe the man also became a more attractive (in all ways, not just physical) as he grew up? Sure, which is why girls tend to prefer older guys even by a year or two. Therein…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:26 PM
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That has always been outrage culture. It just seems different today because technology and media amplifies it so we can't really escape it or pretend it doesn't exist, but it is nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:07 PM
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What turns a teenage-20s girl on is different than what arouses more mature women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:06 PM
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Online yes it is all about looks (or at least how you make yourself look in pictures), but in real life when you can express your personality that counts for as much if you're at least a decently put together average looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:05 PM
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Nah, just thought this one thing related to what you were talking about. Interestingly though I came across and interview with a male pornstar recently who was giving sex tips and he really echoed the general sentiment that women love to be dominated in bed. Properly of course and if the guy looks masculine enough and was congruent in his behavior (i.e. wasn't one thing in the streets and another in bed). Of course what works for him and the rest of us might be something different, plus he's mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 06:58 PM
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On reddit, I forget where though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 06:31 PM
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There was apparently a Japanese-American actor famous in the 1920s who became a sex-symbol in America (yes racist America) because of a scene at the end of a film in which he was the villain where he literally brands a woman and claims her as his. Supposedly women screamed out in ecstasy in the theater at that scene: https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/32658/1/sessue-hayakawa-japan-hollywood-film “If you keep me here — I’ll kill myself,” says the woman. The man smirks and offers …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 05:46 PM
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Usually having money comes from having earned it and to have earned it means you have certain traits that many people find attractive. So it may well not be the money itself, but what having financial success signals about the man in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 12:24 PM
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It is though. If they think a 5 incher is 7 inches the problem isn't that they are slutty or only going for the biggest ones, it's that they can't guestimate properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:29 AM
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You sure they just couldn't properly gauge size? Apparently it is such a problem that for the one study that was done of female penis size preferences they printed out a couple dozen different models in blue and made it like a dildo in shape so that women weren't influenced in their perceptions by other characteristics. They weren't told measurements, but they could handle them. The average choice was 6.5 inches as their ideal 1 night stand length, shorter for a relationship. I'm guessing too th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:23 AM
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I'm sorry I can only updoot this once.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 10:11 PM
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Yup. Society generally has lost most of it's social skill grace and have a distorted view of reality, so this has become the general social mentality for many people. Or maybe it's always been this way and we're just much more honest now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:21 PM
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They're the ones who get the most attention
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:46 PM
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You're grossly generalizing and focusing on women under 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:42 PM
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Prenups. Apparently they don't get thrown out as often as is often claimed so long as your lawyer isn't a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:50 PM
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Very interesting theory
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:48 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:45 PM
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Online attention yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:24 PM
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STD bait
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:22 PM
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And gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:15 PM
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Finally, what's with the explosion of soyboys? So many dudes are just okay with all this, and just so "nice" to the point of being doormats. I normally would have thought chicks would hate this, but just from my personal perceptions I'm seeing some weird dynamics. Like, chicks walk all over them, but get angry once they aren't acting like that. It's like only certain guys can have spines, while the rest of them have to be super nice and sensitive and never "shame" a woman for anything ever, no m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:06 PM
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I've literally had a girl tell me to my face was that her goal was to have 5 BFs like her friends and that she wanted me to be one of them. She was offended when I said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:04 PM
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How old are you? What you're describing is more a teens-20s thing than a 30 (or 35)+ thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:01 PM
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So basically Nassim Taleb's intolerant minorities theory or Lenin's theory of the revolutionary class.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:59 PM
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East European women can be very sexy, but are extremely demanding. They need a VERY masculine and dominating dude it seems. Like even though American women would see me as a bit of douchey asshole, EE women would see me as the most soft and sensitive guy they've been with. Some really like that but ultimately, they still have these very rough Russian cut throat energy to them. That is a very specific sort of Eastern European woman who probably grew up with extremely dominant and abusive fathers.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:52 PM
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dating over 30 has a bias that likely repels (or probably even bans) dissent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:39 PM
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Sure, because society has a lot more compassion for women and she's got options that the average guy doesn't. Why get angry enough to murder when you can go on the internet and find another guy in 24 hours? Of course I've seen women get extremely angry and violent when they're rejected, they just don't have the guts to take it all the way. They might incite other men to do violence against the guy they hate, but they won't do it themselves most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 03:03 PM
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The women here do not represent what most of the women in real life think. There is an outsized Feminist and FDS contingent here. Happy normal women don't bother arguing with people online about gender politics, they just live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:59 PM
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It's not the community that is making men resent women, it's their real life experiences that do. They come to the community because of the resentment and find acceptance for their feelings. Same reason women's subreddits get so toxic too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:58 PM
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Average hetero men don't have easy access to sex, so they fuck anything because they have no other option than masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:54 PM
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Depends on what his potential partner is willing to accept. I've had women want to sleep with and date me when they heard about my 'number'. I've never had a woman not want to date or sleep with me based on my 'number'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:53 PM
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What's wrong with young women focusing on themselves? Depends on what she's looking for out of life. Potentially nothing, potentially a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:51 PM
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That and Japan who needs more people. We should start a fund.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:46 PM
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Because I've read BDR and it usually guys saying they've tried everything their wives have asked them to do and more and still can't get her to have sex with him. I didn't see any women really offering to make major changes to entice their husbands. But then it's been a while since I've been on there, way too depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:44 PM
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Non-married mothers. That doesn't mean single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:35 PM
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Except most people don't if you look at the average financial stats. Most people aren't or can't do it right in the current economic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:28 PM
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Who are they marrying at 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:27 PM
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Sure but what's the ratio and did those women actually do stuff to really try and fix the situation? If they gain 100 lbs and do nothing about it and nag it's hardly a surprise that their husbands aren't interested anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:26 PM
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And the reality he's pointing out is it is much more difficult for the average guy to find 1 or more regular sex partners that you can have good sex with and most important of all actually is willing to do that with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:20 AM
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That's what most guys want. Problem is that is actually really tough to find for most guys. They approach as many women as possible to have a chance at meeting Ms. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:18 AM
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The average guy should just try to accept that and focus on LTRs and marrying as good a woman as he can find. The average guy is and generally doing ok in that department, but things aren't great in general for society there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:14 AM
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Cock size doesn't matter as long as you're at least average. Depends on the girl. But yeah you got to be at least average for the average girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:10 AM
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Guys forget that women aren't as visual. They don't care about your cock size or how big your muscles are. Is it good to be in shape?Yes but she doesn't care if your arms are the size of a basketball. Some girls yes. There are a lot that actually do care quite a bit about looks, dick size, and muscles. Especially the hot ones. Guys spend hours in the gym building muscles thinking that will get them girls not realizing it doesn't fix whatever issues they had mentally. They're still the weak perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:10 AM
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I've seen that too. Only thing is he was insecure and not above average in looks which did not help his cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:08 AM
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Pretty sure a lot of couples have similar earnings. Got stats? I mean, yeah, if people are marrying under that sort of circumstance where they have no alternative, that's a bad deal for sure. That's how marriage always has been. There are contingency plans that people can put into place to drastically reduce damage in these divorces. Marriage can be used to ensure that everyone gets their fair share of community property and that no one just goes out for milk one day only to never return. Yes, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 05:07 PM
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Doesn't seem like accurate stats are kept for the country. I saw the number in an article I read a while back, but cannot find it again ATM. If I do I will post another reply with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:55 PM
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Marriage does save steps, and it's not required. No arguments here. That's actually kind of my point. Marriage is not the more complicated arrangement to make, and it doesn't have to be justified if people want to stay together. It is the more dangerous one for the higher earner however and the benefits do not outweigh the risks. Building a dynasty requires marriage, yet hardly anyone these days is pressured into that. I plan to have no children. Unless we can build a bond with my nieces and nep…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:52 PM
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And they get thrown out half the time: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5333445&page=1
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:11 PM
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Yes you are a good bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:07 PM
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You're an extreme exception in modern America.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:06 PM
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You can also write a will and when in the hospital designate someone your legal decision maker. None of that requires marriage, marriage just saves a couple of steps, but adds enormous risk in case of divorce (which was at 50% relatively recently). At least the upper classes respect the status if marriage, and that's where most want people want to be. Right because they have the financial resources and social pressure to make marriage work. And they're building strategic alliances to make dynast…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:03 PM
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And vastly worse to be divorced. Considering the divorce rates the benefits do not outweigh the risks even slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:02 PM
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Signals of investment are temporary. If you're planning on the long term you can't trust that it won't change given the divorce rates and how often relationships end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:44 PM
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Many do. Just like women it's a spectrum of how much effort people put into the window dressing. I've seen plenty of women who think a bit of make up is all they need while being poorly dressed and obese. Generally though society doesn't judge men as harshly on appearance, but definitely does in other areas like career success, so men focus on things that matter more socially to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 02:30 PM
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I see you've met my parents and grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:47 PM
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Alot of them watch YouTube and play video games but don't go out as much as previous gens. - The men seem irreligious and apolitical. The women are mostly left wing. - Onlyfans and simping is taking off - Massive feminist brainwashing in school - Online redpill forums and other forums ate accessible to young men. - The concept of "dating" and monogamous relationships seems to not be as prominent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:22 PM
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We didn't, our elders fucked us badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:17 PM
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I'm guessing collapse of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:16 PM
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Eh, not sure I agree. The Halo effect works for good looking men on straight men too, and for women on women. Being good looking is simply attractive to everyone, including non-sexually, so if anything it is more about enhancing the Halo effect rather than anything else: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect#Role_of_attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:12 PM
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Hot men are born hot, they have good genetics. The rest is window dressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:06 PM
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Sure, but do the women do it to attract men or make themselves feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:06 PM
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Not sure how your point really has anything to do with mine; if guys en masse started improving their appearance what average is rises and then that is the new standard to maintain or be considered below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:56 PM
3

They're showing off their wealth. K-pop stars aren't popular with women for being well put together, it's that they're handsome, rich, and famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:55 PM
1

Are you suggesting men paint over their flaws and call it self improvement as women do? I've seen a French-Italian Swiss guy do it. He was already good looking without it, which made it extra weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:50 PM
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And raise women's expectations. It's a treadmill man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:48 PM
2

Exercising and eating right for your own health is different than this: get invisalign, whiten your teeth, exercise and get fit, dress well, etc. Getting healthy is different than getting fit to maximize attractiveness, which generally means weight lifting and getting big muscles (or at least what you can w/o steroids). Eating right enough to be healthy is different from eating a consistently depriving and restrictive diet to get visible abs, which is where eating right matters. Being skinny or …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:45 PM
4

The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:59 PM
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The mass media acceptance of it you mean; 2nd wave Feminism was if anything even crazier and more extreme in a lot of ways, but it wasn't accepted in media and society like 3rd wave was, because they toned down the rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 09:18 PM
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Read about the crazy swingers parties the upper class in Europe was having before WW1: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/sep/02/sex-parties-duels-blackmail-german-emperor
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:18 PM
3

I disagree that most don't want kids, I think most cannot afford kids with the lifestyle they want to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:16 PM
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Which is funny, because Richard Feynman was RP before there was a word for it and he apparently used it to get laid a lot: http://www.roberttwigger.com/journal/2010/9/16/richard-feynmans-pick-up-technique.html https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/richard-feynman-sexism-and-changing-perceptions-of-a-scientific-icon/#:~:text=In%20addition%2C%20Feynman's%20ploys%20to,only%20scientist%20to%20do%20so. Youngest guy to work on the Manhattan Project, Nobel Prize winner, and a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:58 AM
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You're looking at it only from your perspective, a lot of younger women are into that and it's also ok for guys to shoot their shot if there is someone they fancy, just as it is yours to shoot them down if you're not into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:53 AM
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What you are proposing it to build walls around people, and ban people from crossing the walls. No, that's your projection on to me. I'm saying people do this anyway with where they choose to live, who they choose to associate with, the reality of how class and race intersect in society, etc. I'm not talking about enforcing anything legally or by force, I'm saying people with free choice do this to a large degree by choice anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:47 AM
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Yes, there was a documentary about the Stonewall Riots on PBS and they got extremely graphic about what was going on sexually; if anything things were even more wild back then because they had to hide their sexuality so went nuts when they had the chance to find a safe space to let things out. Then there is the 1920s Berlin example...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 01:50 AM
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Rape culture doesn't exist outside of limited social groups (prison, certain athletic groups, maybe the military). The biggest problem though is trying to fight through the sex-negative and even some sex positive Feminists who run the media discourse on gender relations issues. Until ideology of ANY sort around sex is removed from the discourse we're getting nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:56 PM
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Communicating to the other person that you want sex is initiating, isnt it ? Well, it is IMHO Hints aren't really communicating. Initiating to me is starting the sexual encounter by physical action. But you do need to talk about it before. What those women are doing is training men to rape other women in the future. BDSM is different than women's ravishment fantasies. Talking about it beforehand ruins the experience for them, they just want you to 'get it', i.e. the subtle hints, and demonstrate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:37 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but a ton of women are just like that. I've been with several. If you learn how their sexuality works though and work with it the sex with be awesome. That's why a lot of younger girls like to date older men, the older guys have experience and understand the 'game' much more than younger guys who are still learning how many women's desire works. Why do you think there is so much frustration with sex and dating? Inexperienced guys are being miseducated about this and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:23 PM
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Depends. Most women have responsive sexuality and if done right a passionate, aggressive initiation will get them from 0-60 is 3 seconds: https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/when-urge-is-uneven-understanding-universe-of-sexual-desire-0206185#:~:text=Responsive%20Sexual%20Desire,of%20that%20feeling%E2%80%9D%E2%80%94activates. Our lack of cultural understanding of this basic facet of female desire is causing all sorts of problems in male-female sexual relations and why 'bad boys' are so desirable to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:20 PM
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Your ex wife is a fucking psychopath. Eh, a lot of woman really need that passionate 'ravishing' to really enjoy sex, it is a LOT more common than you think. A few girls I've been with literally could not orgasm unless I got really aggressive with them; they'd play the resistance game and keep doing sexual things in the hope that I'd say say 'fuck it' and jump their bones even though they were saying 'no', but with a coy smile. Then they'd cum hard and tell me they loved me. When I tried to be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:18 PM
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You missed this part: will grow to resent you. That implies that while there is unhappiness early on it's a minor issue to start otherwise why would anyone bother settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:13 PM
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You're missing the point. Men have all those same threats as well. The woman could be a lure for a robbery/assault/rape/murder. Men can get STIs too. You can get a girl pregnant and be on the hook for child support. Women can get an abortion on demand in most places in the developed world, so the threat of pregnancy is virtually non-existent today. Unfulfilling sex is potentially an issue for women, but that is in part a function of sex drive; if women are turned on and ready to go in my experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:02 PM
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'Voluntarily' is a funny way to say 'the only other option is to die alone'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:48 PM
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Don't most divorces come in the 40s-50s?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:48 PM
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Problem with your idea: DV rates are the higher for homosexual couples than straight ones: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/if-youre-not-stragiht-youre-at-higher-risk-for-domestic-violence-180949988/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:44 PM
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That would be to divide society in classes, and segregate them based on genetics. I hate to break it to you, that has basically already happened and has been the norm for most of recorded human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:36 PM
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You've heard of delayed gratification, right? Successful people and societies are based on it. Not giving in to every urge is generally a good skill to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:32 PM
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Yes, the standard for attractive traits would go up instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:37 PM
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Being underweight and stunted was much more common then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:18 PM
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If more men did the things to make themselves attractive then it would just raise the standard everyone had to meet. Like if everyone was a 10 then the scale changes to reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:05 PM
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What the actual fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 02:40 PM
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Yeah it's rough being in that situation. You might actually have more success when you're alone in that case both because of the lack of comparison so you're natural attractiveness can stand out and because generally guys will avoid approaching women in groups unless they have a group too. How long have you been on campus though? At 18 and with the academic year just starting it can't have been for that long. As much as it sucks to wait you might have to have patience about meeting someone. If a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 02:17 PM
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Oh...yeah younger guys are pretty dumb. Sorry that's the situation where you're at. If I were you and your dating situation is that important to you you might want to consider transferring to another school in a more urban area or even out of state, because it sounds like the school you're at isn't your ideal 'market'. Of course maybe it will just take time and you'll find the right person eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 02:11 PM
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It sounds bad but I’m open to literally almost anyone as long as they don’t have major character flaws. That doesn't sound bad at all, especially at your age. I’ve met so many people in the past few weeks that it’s crazy and I honestly love it, but I’ve already had experiences of guys that I barely even just met already making digs at me for being the ugly friend (once again, check profile. I’m not ugly in the slightest). Yeah you are cute. If you weren't so much younger than me and out of state…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 02:07 PM
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Have you talked to other black women on campus about their dating experiences? Or is that just from your perception? Have a lot of guys you're interested in outright said that they're not interested in BW? Its really hard to try and diagnose the situation via the internet without really knowing what your social life is like; often times I've found people complaining about their dating life aren't getting out socially with new people and then complaining about their lack of success. Well that and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:49 PM
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I’m pretty sure the only media you’re looking at where the black women explicitly say that they don’t like white guys are the ones that focus on the stereotype of black women being loud and hyper sexual. Quite the opposite actually. Opinionated yes, but that's not a bad thing necessarily. Actually some of the media was a professional black woman complaining that white guys she was vibing with weren't asking her out and her friends making fun of her for being interested in 'swirling'. I’m also fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:45 PM
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That might be your problem right there. Having a larger social network and with more diverse looks will probably help your dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:34 PM
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I have no idea where this comes from tbh. That black women aren't into white men? Life experience and media. Most women of any racial background tend to be more into men of their own group than 'outsiders'. I just hope that’s the case but I sincerely hate always having to make the first move of talking to a guy. Unfortunately until a lot of black women publicly start showing they're interested in white guys that's probably going to be the way things go. Plus a lot of guys do have a preference, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:33 PM
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If Trumpism has taught us anything its that not having norms and social standards is untenable. Trump is the result of the collapse of social standards and norms in the preceding administrations not the cause of it. If you think voting out Trump is going to fix anything, just wait and see what's coming; I remember when W. Bush was the worst thing to ever happen to the country and then we got Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:46 PM
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This is a really retarded example choice.
/r/seduction08/09/20 10:20 PM
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Thanks for the source, but they don't actually have any citations around the parts where they claim that trafficking is increased in nations with legalized prostitution and even where they do make the uncited claim they just say in comparison to countries that have it illegal, not in comparison to before those countries legalized it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:55 AM
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Got some tips?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:47 AM
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It's called the halo effect; men and women both do that. I've had the same treatment from both men and women after I lost 60 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:38 AM
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Problem #1: You're taking anything you read on the internet seriously and project it out onto reality. I'm honestly sorry you feel this way. As a man I don't really think this is true of most men. Absolutely some do think like that, most don't. Unfortunately women have their issues too and both men and women are humans first; humans are flawed by nature. All that said don't let some internet BS ruin your life by internalizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:38 AM
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Men just don't report it as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:23 AM
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The crazy stuff has always existed. If you go back to ancient Greece you can find murals of group sex and bestiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 06:20 PM
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Could have fooled me, because your post was exactly about who uses who for what.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:36 PM
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Go to the dating subreddits. There are quite a few posts about the horror show dating is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:35 PM
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And then they think it's bad advise when they are told to just be themselves. People generally are themselves on a daily basis, thing is most women aren't interested in most guys just 'being themselves'. They want a guy who is the best possible version of themselves rather than just being themselves. Women (and people in general) like someone who is unique, passionate about something express genuine feelings and thoughts. That's not someone just being themself, because the average person is pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:34 PM
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too many men still treat them like objects to be obtained Considering most men are expected to do everything to make a relationship (any kind) happen and women rarely approach men and move things forward in the relationship it's hardly surprising that that sort of mentality is common. If women didn't want to be treated like that they would behave equally in the dating scene and not act like objects to be obtained by having to do a special dance just right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:28 PM
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Those countries have high gender equality and both genders can empathize with the other. Is that why their birthrates are crashing and they're dying out?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:23 PM
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I'm fairly sure the CDC numbers are like 1 in 5, not even 1 in 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:13 PM
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Maybe look outside your male lens once in a while and consider your privileges instead of pretending you’re somehow oppressed. Since Feminism basically dominates most media it's virtually impossible not to be force-fed the female perspective on what they resent about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:11 PM
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Have you seen the stuff that existed in the 1920s before it was outlawed? Or the less mainstream acceptable stuff from the 1950s on until Penthouse became a thing in the 1970s? The internet just made the hardcore stuff more accessible to the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:06 PM
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Don't take the troll's bait
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:42 PM
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Pornstars tend to either be exceptional women with extreme sex drives or psychological damaged people with serious abuse and addiction issues. So if you think what you're learning from porn about women has any bearing on what the vast majority are like rather than being a very narrow sample of a certain type of person, you're in for some trouble. Most women are sexually unadventurous pigs who refuse to learn how to deepthroat. Ok, you have to be a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:41 PM
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You do know a lot of women keep a harem of guys to fill certain roles in their lives too, right? The Madonna-Whore thing is a general human thing, not just a male one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:38 PM
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Or they're staying home watching porn because socializing hasn't worked out for them. Do people really not get that most people don't have to have to be friggin' perfect before being able to get laid and even then still put up with much more rejection than success? There is a lot less incentive to actually try and become 'good enough' when the rewards are so few and far between and not really all that great relative to opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:33 PM
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Because the average woman can indulge in that fantasy with her average partner, not go to some secret club to try it out. The only women who are in the secret scene are the most extreme fetishists who need specialized 'treatment'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:32 PM
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Foreplay type stuff after sex. I was really surprised, I've never had a girl react like that after cumming before. I'm used to 'a big one and done' types. But at that point I think she was falling for me so that might have had something to do with it too and it might have just been that she was capable of multiples. Also I do know she was into me for my size, she was like 5'2" and I'm 6'0 and had blown off another significantly shorter guy (who was better looking IMHO, had more money, and was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 09:26 PM
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Eh, I don't buy that, because I've turned down quite a few women who were eager to hookup because I was not interested in them physically or their personality. Like don't stick your dick in crazy or at least people who are not good people. I may not be usual, but I've had friends do the same, so I don't think we're outliers with that. Honestly though looks aren't everything to guys either, even for hookups. I've had a bunch of guys tell me that they'd rather be with the girl who is average and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:52 PM
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Arnold and his wife had a very open relationship. She was fucking someone else, so was he (probably several someones). Plus the maid might have been hot and Arnold has expressed a preference for Latin women. Besides Mrs. Arnold was not exactly a beauty, it was likely a political marriage since she was related to the Kennedy's and Arnold wanted to get into politics. Also Arnold used steroids and likely has quite a bit more testosterone than the average guy given his height and muscles, even in hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:31 PM
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I'd say it depends on the person more than anything. The culture generally enhances people's natural inclinations or might push them to do something they aren't inclined to, but honestly I do think most people are picky and 'Chad' generally isn't bedding down everyone. The Khan wasn't just going after just anyone, he was taking his pick of the best and just happened to go to a LOT of places, so had many more opportunities than most rulers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:17 PM
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We have promoted a culture where quantity over quality is the goal, so that's hardly surprising when people go buck wild when they have the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:56 PM
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Vienna. But I travelled to Northern Italy and didn't really notice too much of an issue with people not in relationships. And yes the Italian (and Spanish) women didn't seem like they were too interested in non-Italian or Spanish guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:41 PM
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Because it contradicts my experience with Italians.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:13 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:13 PM
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a) those are self-reported figures which are bound to be higher in reality Perhaps b) it only focuses on 18-30 age group No, it did the entire age range breakdown, but they focused on the 20-29 group because they were by far the highest in terms of celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:58 PM
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Seemed like most of the Italians I met while studying abroad were getting action most of the time. Same with the Spaniards. It was the Central and Northern Europeans that seemed to be struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:56 PM
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You're ignoring the context of modern society where this is actively frowned on. If you're attractive enough (not just physically, but in terms of personality), you can pull it off, but you have to be pretty good at it to avoid coming off as harassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:54 PM
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Yes! I wish more people would understand that OLD exists because people are getting more disconnected and socially retarded than ever, so they have to go online to get any attention at all and then wonder why the entire scene is a shit-show. Meanwhile those with decent lives outside the internet aren't bothering with OLD because they're already getting action or have a relationship from their real life activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:52 PM
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Only if you're issue is just having a negative thought pattern. For most people with depression/depressive thoughts the issue is much deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:50 PM
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Great, got a mushroom hookup I can use?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:48 PM
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There’s no conspiracy to deny you sex. The Illuminati beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:44 PM
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That's not a counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:43 PM
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Except they're having offers of sex endlessly on the apps, so it inflates their perceptions of their 'market value'. Same reason hot women post naked pictures of themselves on reddit, they get endless validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:43 PM
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Not sure I'd say OKC is an LTR app. It's not Tinder to be sure, but it's also not Match.com.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:41 PM
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I do and see mostly skinny women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:39 PM
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I think guys are complaining about the level of effort they have to put in to get scraps of attention, i.e. the juice not being worth the squeeze. You can simply tell them to shut up and get with the program, 'man up' if you will, but that doesn't mean it is actually worth it for them to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:37 PM
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Again, in pictures on dating apps with a limited cohort of women who aren't finding partners in real life. Its not really representative of anything other than who uses the apps, both male and female.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:35 PM
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Looks are a function of an enormous amount of artistic quality in 2d images. Look at how much production goes into making models look like 10/10s when without makeup, lighting, camera angles, etc. at lot of them are 5s or 6s. I think a lot of those women doing the ratings are also judging men by their standards of production quality, especially in this age of social media and filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:34 PM
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Which app? Plus people generally want the best they can get for an LTR if they're planning on committing. Men rated women along the expected distribution. It's only womrn that didnt How many women vs. men were sampled? And again remember this is a self selected cohort of people using OLD. There are many more males than females on the apps, so you're more like to get normal guys who have normal standards than women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:32 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:30 PM
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Huh? I'm just going down a thread and replying to comments I feel like replying to. Sorry if it's been multiple comments you've left on one thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:30 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:26 PM
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They don't. They hook up with guys with greater looks and status, but those sorts of guys aren't dating girls that significantly beneath them in looks and status. Generally speaking if a guy has to 'date down' it's because he's got some issues you're not perceiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:26 PM
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I knew them for a while before we hooked up, so I'm sure that helped. AFAIK they weren't going out hooking up with randoms at all and were generally more relationship focused even if it was 'just' a casual relationship. When they had in the past just done the ONS thing they were pretty disgusted by it. Honestly most women I've talked with and seen in action really aren't looking for a ONS; even in hooking up they want it to be with someone they can talk to and stand being around for a while and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:23 PM
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yet most people can't get laid In Italy???
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:18 PM
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I can show you pictures of bodybuilders that would change your mind. You can be buff AF, but that doesn't mean you're actually attractive to the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:17 PM
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Humans are in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:16 PM
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F
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:16 PM
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Uh...70% is most guys. 30% is a large number, but it is still a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:14 PM
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Most guys are with utter pigs. Honestly, what the hell are you babbling about? The average person is average, not a pig. Therefore the majority of guys literally cannot be with below average women!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:13 PM
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Don't worry, that's a bullshit claim. You also have to have success, confidence, style, an engaging personality, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:12 PM
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That's a self selected cohort though. People doing OLD are there either looking for an easy hookup or because they are failing to find someone in real life. So you're not really dealing with 1st (or even 3rd) round draft picks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:11 PM
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You do realize 6' and taller guys are only like 14.5% of the population in the US? I got a feeling you're ignoring the majority of the population to look for validation of your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:08 PM
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Right, because as humans were interested in things other than looks too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:06 PM
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Shallow women yes, which in our media culture is an increasing number (guys too, it's a general human problem), but that isn't the case for the average woman who you're ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:05 PM
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You should compare that with what they think of other women's pictures. I think women are generally more judgmental of pictures because of how much effort they put into maximizing their own appearance in photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:04 PM
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That was a study of online dating. I don't think that holds up in real life, especially considering most women don't use OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:02 PM
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Huh? I've seen it a lot. But the guys has other perks beyond his physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:01 PM
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Most guys don't either. Despite all the rhetoric most guys really don't want to have to fuck someone below a certain level, which is probably close to 40-50% of the female population. When they do it is generally because they have some sort of personality connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:00 PM
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If the 8 is confident and the 6 isn't then sure. But that doesn't necessarily mean women would fuck said 8 unless he's 2-3 levels of attractiveness above them. I feel like a lot of people really miss out on the nuance of relative attractiveness here; yes an unemployed 8 can easily get women, but only women who are considerably less attractive than himself. The reason those women are willing to do that is because they have a chance to get with a guy that they normally would never get any attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:56 PM
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Prime example: Chris D'elia. I guess he's maybe a 6/10, he's really not funny, and actually can be quite annoying, but apparently being a well to do son of a rich dad who is in the film industry and some level of fame gets you endless play. Of course even then he gets in trouble for hitting on young girls, so he's still actively seeking women out online.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:54 PM
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How visible/memorable do you think the average person is on the street to the average person walking around? We actively ignore the regular person and generally only remember the standouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:51 PM
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Attractive in that case is a combination of things, it's not just looks unless you're 7-10/10. Of course it depends on the woman you're interested in, a 4/10 woman in looks is likely going to respond well to a 6/10 guy hitting on her. Also fat women do have a lot of trouble dating, they just have more options (not good ones necessarily) than fat guys with similar personalities. Plus a lot depends on what they want; a fat girl is likely able to get all the sex she wants, not usually that good of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:47 PM
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Ben Shapiro is only out for himself and his own income, same with just about any media personality of any ideology. They don't give a shit about the movement in most cases, they're simply making money off of it by pandering to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:44 PM
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Maybe now relatively speaking. But a lot of that depends on the person and how attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:40 PM
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Extroverted guys hitting on introverted women is hardly new, they can just do it online a lot more than ever before though, which is the big change and women are generally speaking more interested in 'playing the field' than before since society has focused on making everyone worker bees than human beings with a fully life outside of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:38 PM
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Not just converse, do it right in the right context with someone who is interested. You can have conversations all day and have a bunch of friends, but still get no play.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:35 PM
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Life as an introverted woman is a lot easier than life as an introverted man. Shit I know a disabled woman who could barely leave her house other than for work get in a relationship with minimal effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:34 PM
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How is it entitled to say that the dating scene is unfair? I mean you acknowledge that above. There is nothing wrong with saying that the unfairness of it makes the juice not worth the squeeze, its just a matter of perspective. If you're willing to make the changes and sacrifices to play the game then good for you, but there's nothing inherently wrong if someone doesn't want to and opts out while pointing out the reasons for opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:24 PM
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How old are you? The dating game has changed pretty dramatically in the last 30 years or so, so while at one point introverted girls were more likely to meet introverted guys out in the world now it's transitioned to OLD, which completely upended dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:22 PM
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Not surprising that Brooks would make such an obvious statement. Classical music only really existed because the nobility were bored and financed artists to entertain them and they'd compete to attract the best ones for status among their peers. Same thing with most modern art (and yes the CIA did fund it specifically for status competition against the Soviets).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:19 PM
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Considering how many useless people with fame and money there are who really if anything hurt society, I don't think that having status and money makes you valuable to society, we just act like it does. I mean really, what does some trust fund kid really contribute to society in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:17 PM
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It's a way for them to make money. Fighting the culture war is very profitable for right wing media.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:14 PM
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A lot have actually. Mostly people buying into her narrative that she had to do it to survive. Hollywood actually made a movie glorifying it with Cardi B in it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustlers_(film)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:12 PM
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Generally sex with a willing partner that you find physically attractive as a male is much better than jacking off. The problem is all the baggage that may come with the person you're sleeping with; but in a perfect world where that isn't a problem I don't see how anyone would seriously think porn and masturbation is better than sex with someone you find attractive and she is into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:07 PM
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I have. Trans-men. Women who transitioned from female to male and started taking testosterone got insanely hornier on a regular basis than they ever had as a woman. There is a big difference between turned on in a moment as a response to a specific set of stimuli and being generally horny and those trans-men found that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:04 PM
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Depends on the woman. I'm pretty average looking and even when pretty fat there were some girls I could get nearly uncontrollably horny to the point where she was basically attacking me. Some were even better looking than I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:02 PM
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I mean I'd argue the same is true for men, just that men's horniness is considerably stronger than the average woman so he has a much broader pool of women he'd find sexually acceptable...depending on what he can get. If he can get highly attractive women guys will generally be pickier as well unless he's so horny that standards get pushed down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:59 PM
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Eh depends. I did see one topless girl sitting on a guy's shoulders at a concert freak out and try to hide when a camera focused on her and put her up on the big screen by the stage. Guess she didn't want to be highlighted for the crowd to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:58 PM
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(Look up the statistics on how many women actually orgasm when engaging in sexual activity). Usually for one night stands, because the average woman isn't really wired for that. Even in relationships it's a problem of the female sex drive once the honeymoon period wears off. Cardi B’s hit became so controversial because it challenged the social norm. Mainstream talk about female pleasure is rare. Women talking about their enjoyment of sex is not common. For many, it was their first exposure to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:48 PM
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(Cue all the "Women just aren't horny for you" comments to silence anyone willing to say that women aren't as horny as men.) Got to love how they have to use sexual shaming to not engage with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:46 PM
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There's a large group of men out there who have a difficult time understanding that women love sex... just not with them. There's really not a misunderstanding of that. They're just saying that there is also the component of women not wanting sex as much in general. They can get horny with with a guy significantly more attractive than them in some way, but that doesn't mean horny as often as the average male or triggered by the average guy. Women flaunting their sexuality while rejecting these m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:43 PM
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That's the thing, women are able to express their sexuality much more because in real life they have many more options to go wild if they want to. Male thirst is accepted because so long as they don't rape there are not nearly as many chances to express that sexuality, so to actually be able to is an achievement as something to be looked up to (per society in general). In part due to female approval of the guy able to achieve his sexual desires since he was able to find willing partners he then …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:35 PM
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You could say the same about the people that post to r/inceltears In that case what does it was about those men and women that post there?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:21 PM
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If anything it proves they are playing to male thirst yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:17 PM
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Depends. I have seen women who do fuck just because they enjoy sex, but they're definitely a minority. Because they are so rare they can get guys out of their looks league very easily, so typically aren't 'slumming it' with average guys unless they want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:17 PM
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She's not thirsty at all. She's just sexually signaling because it gets attention and for the kind of class she grew up in that is power over men. After all when she was a stripper she'd use this sexuality to drug and rob men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:15 PM
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Sure, but male sex workers end up servicing a lot of gay men. To make that kind of money they'd need to go hard at the day male dollar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:14 PM
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Have you seen politician's wives? I mean the ones who aren't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:11 PM
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Actually it is not. Otherwise Feminists would gatekeep who they allow to define themselves as Feminists. You do know that there are also sex-negative Feminists too, right? https://radtransfem.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/the-ethical-prude-imagining-an-authentic-sex-negative-feminism/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/3cvbyu/what_is_sexnegative_feminism/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:05 PM
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you will find almost zero shaming if male virgins in feminist texts We're talking about real life, not the propaganda to sanitize what they actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:42 AM
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Also feminists aren’t the people shaming virgin men... that would be other men you are thinking of. Ah no. You clearly are either not paying attention or are actively ignoring where all the shaming talks is coming from. Men don't really shame each other about sex after high school. Well other than Feminist men who are incels and like to bash other incels because it makes them feel morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:40 AM
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Arguably most women have been hurt by it other than those not really interested in relationships and more interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:37 AM
1

You mean ex-husbands/wives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:26 AM
2

FDS confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:10 AM
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It could be a personality issue, dating market problem (small town), or lack of a decent social circle. RL isn't any easier than OLD, just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:42 PM
2

This is a dude who has female friends. Or bothers to read most dating advice online these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:07 PM
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Depends on the girl.
/r/seduction02/09/20 04:12 PM
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I don't think you understand how 'make things more equal' and 'improve yourself' are at odds in this context. Women aren't interested in dating guys on their level, they want someone better. 'Try harder' isn't making things more equal, it's making things more unequal and expecting more from men than women. That's the opposite of where we should be going if we're looking for gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 02:08 PM
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Women have a high relationship drive so it only makes sense for them to put in the work too. Apparently not otherwise they'd be pursuing that as hard as men pursue sex and put in the work. Frankly I think the issue is that most women don't really need most men, so they're only really interested in relationships if the man is 'worth it' in their view, which is increasingly a shrinking pool of men. It really does seem like more and more women would rather stay single and hookup rather than be in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 02:06 PM
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Sexual attraction is probably something most young guys feel toward most young women anyway, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I meant romantic attraction to the point that they want a relationship, i.e. something more than just friendship but not just a hookup. If they were only interested in a hookup I doubt the friend zone would even be an issue.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:15 PM
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Some guys only realize they're into a woman after getting to know her in a friendly way.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:09 PM
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You can have good success despite not being stand out good looking if you've got compensating attributes like good social skills and a good social network.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 10:47 PM
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I have no idea who you've been dating or dealing with so your experiences might simply be an issue of which guys you've chosen to be around, but a lot of the friction on those issues is contextual and none of that are things only men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:04 PM
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Yes, and? The vast majority of men are not looking for customer service in a relationship. Like most women we just want someone who is sympatico with our personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:24 PM
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Look into the history of the word 'manpower'. Society only functions on human exploitation of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:57 AM
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How many women actually care about that these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:53 AM
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You think the laborers building the pyramids felt like they had a "stake" in society? Yes, because they were being paid to build the pyramids in the growing off season when otherwise they'd starve. And they were treated with respect: https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids Hawass said the builders came from poor Egyptian families from the north and the south, and were respected for their work — so much so that those who died during cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:46 AM
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I think we will return to somewhat of an equilibrium naturally as women become aware that actions have consequences. They will teach their daughters not to end up like their 45y.o friend Becky who spent her 20's fucking Chad's and then couldn't find a suitable life partner. Similarly women will soon realize that work sucks and the degrees aren't worth it, therefore teaching their daughters to focus their youth on finding a suitable life partner instead of climbing the career ladder. I love how p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:41 AM
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You and Ted Kaczynski can work out how to do that from prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:38 AM
1

Even after society collapses?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:22 AM
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Of course, we've turned everything into a market, a highly rigged one in most areas including dating. I've felt like this for a while, what's the point of investing in society and making it work if you're not getting anything of value in return and all the messaging that is out there is you need to make something of yourself to matter to anyone; perfect yourself before you can reasonably expect anyone to give a shit about you and even then only if they feel like it. What have women been saying? …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:19 AM
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Who told you we don't want personalities??? Its when you don't have an engaging one that leads men to only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:10 AM
1

Who said they only seek out rich men? We said that being rich/successful will increase the attention you get and chances with the average woman.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:41 PM
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Most of the guys I know are actually middle class or up and they are what you could call successful for Millennials. They all have middle class gfs or wives who were relatively successful themselves.
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:58 PM
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Fair enough. But feminine women aren't always the overly submissive type. Some of them are go getters as well. A dentist woman I know comes to mind here for me. Then we're probably not talking about the same things. It's not just confidence, it's also polarity. It appeals to her emotions on an intuitive and instinctual level. Sure, but that is confidence. The reason it tends to sexy is it gives a feeling of comfort. Though Charisma might be the better word, calibrated confidence is basically the…
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:51 PM
1

I'm a man. Of course I have a fetish for feminine women. You like your women masculine? No, but I'm not into super feminine, submissive women either. They get boring very quickly when they expect you to be constantly in charge of everything. I have so much better luck with women when I'm centered in my masculine energy, and I think I'm pretty average. Vibes and energy are huge with women because they feel rather than think. Calibrated confidence is sexy in everyone. Girls orbit guys they think t…
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:38 PM
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Yeah, but wasn't attracted to her because of that. I think you just have a fetish for that. I meant to type masculine guys, but the masculine guys often are the hot ones that do well with girls. Have you ever seen a guy talk to a girl platonically like he doesn't care, yet she's all into it laughing overenthusiastically at his lameass jokes? They're like female orbiters. I've had some so you probably have too. They're often "nice girls." Trying to befriend the hot guy they secretly wanna fuck. I…
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:58 PM
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They're stand ins for more basic needs for protection and status (high value women have high value partners). We are social creatures after all. Guys do this too for long term relationships in different ways. Money alone won't get you laid except by gold diggers and prostitutes, you need the other features that alone, but usually unless you're born into it the ability to accumulate money usually means you have good social skills and smarts. Honestly I've seen a bunch of women go for that even wi…
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:53 PM
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By extremely feminine do you mean conventionally hot? In that case yes, I'm guilty of that myself. Come on. Hot guys hang out with hot girls. This is common sense. In that sense of course, but that's not what you said before.
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:49 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_male_(slang)#:~:text=In%20the%20manosphere%2C%20the%20term,nonetheless%20engage%20with%20them%20sexually. In the manosphere, the term betabux refers to beta males who give financial favors to women in an attempt to earn their romantic or sexual interest. It is used in contrast to alphafux, which refers to alpha male men who do not give money to women but nonetheless engage with them sexually.[21] The term presupposes a sexual strategy among women whereby they p…
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:39 PM
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Visual desire in women is different in my experience; generally speaking women won't necessarily go for a guy they find visually appealing without the other stuff, but will give him a shot if he approaches and then can prove he is 'socially worth it'. Some women will of course approach guys they are attracted to, but then those guys have to be at least socially competent enough to play the game and 'seal the deal'. I've seen those 'hot guys' fuck it up too even if they get hit on a fair bit. Not…
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:26 PM
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Yeah, but that's a general American cultural failing. We've made money the only marker of being successful and created a mentality of short term thinking, so why invest in an up-comer when you can go for the already successful and reap the rewards without having to deal with the come up period? As much as a loath the term 'beta bux' it isn't necessarily a false concept considering that guys will not care once they have success since they 'starved' in their 20's or 30's to finally get to a place …
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:18 PM
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Not unfortunately. Women are social beings and value things differently than men. Having social success is more important than simply being visually appealing (though that can get you hook ups, but you also need to have some sort of social smarts to even make that work most of the time). Guys run into the problem of thinking that if they simply adopt the female strategy of being attractive, just in male terms, that women will respond the way they do to attractive women; that doesn't work any mor…
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:44 PM
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What's the expression? "You'll lose money chasing women, but you'll never lose women chasing money". The more apt description of the phenomenon is have an interesting life that people want to be a part of will get you more success in life and with women than doing PUA stuff when your life isn't in order.
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:40 PM
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The rich part is probably the more important part of the two. Being ripped will attract gay guys and other gym rats.
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:37 PM
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It should be getting sustainably healthy rather than getting ripped. There is too much Adonis Complex (male body dysmorphia) going on with the obsession of getting ripped. Besides most women aren't even really into the 'ripped' look, more like 12% body fat at most with some muscle, but not to the level that you look like a gym rat, just clearly 'fit'; visible abs, but not shredded so you can see every single defined muscle. Don't get me wrong there are women who love the ripped look, but not mos…
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:37 PM
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"We" don't do that. Some assholes do.
/r/seduction07/08/20 12:54 PM
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Who is upvoting this shit?
/r/seduction26/07/20 05:34 PM
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She might be Canadian though.
/r/seduction20/07/20 03:13 PM
1

Worse from what I've seen on average.
/r/seduction06/07/20 12:44 AM
2

Real incel behaviour has found its way into normal society. Guys really need to hear what you’re preaching. Garden variety narcissism. Women of the same generation are just as deep in that shit as these guys. Society is pretty f-ed up right now.
/r/seduction06/07/20 12:43 AM
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Except it doesn't for a guy who doesn't even know what his best foot forward even is. Do you really not see how such extremely generic platitudes are unhelpful for someone who has had little to no success in dating?
/r/seduction20/05/20 05:31 PM
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Then say that instead of a the most generic line in the world that no one agrees on what it actually means.
/r/seduction20/05/20 05:29 PM
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Or should I have worn ill-fitting clothes and ignored personal hygiene What does that have to do with being wealthy or poor? You can find clothes that fit for cheap and you can wash even if you're homeless. You don't need a Porsche or a 6 figure salary to attract women if you have a personality and take basic care of yourself, but you do if money is all you have to offer.
/r/seduction11/05/20 05:24 PM
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Why is it "superficial" --- in your opinion -- to have a successful business or job? Why is it superficial to have taken care of your body/mind? Why is is superficial to be attracted to money and/or someone who has devoted their life to sculpting their body? Because those things aren't necessarily about that person being a good partner, just a provider or eye candy. It's like guys only being attracted to tits and ass on a slutty girl. Would you want to date a woman who had no redeeming qualities…
/r/seduction11/05/20 05:04 PM
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Yeah, what's wrong with a woman who loves a man for being successful? Or in shape? Or talented? Or fill-in-the-blank? Superficiality We're, by and large, not chasing women who are grossly overweight, have bad hygiene, and poor social skills. Those traits are quite a bit different than what you listed above for men.
/r/seduction11/05/20 04:42 PM
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Rich, famous, socially validated rock stars can get away with something that was fashionable for a certain kind of guy at the time. This isn't the 1980s and the average guy doesn't have all the other stuff that made the rock stars hot to women, at least enough to get away that look...unless you have enough cocaine to share.
/r/seduction24/04/20 07:51 PM
3

What were they doing?
/r/seduction15/04/20 04:11 PM
1

Because most people get that a drunk girl pissing in front of you isn't anything special. I've had multiple drunk strange women piss in front of me and it wasn't a trust thing. It was a 'I need to pee thing and don't give a shit about who's around' thing.
/r/seduction14/04/20 04:29 PM
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Women definitely don’t see it this way. Only men do. Big Dick Energy as a meme was started and boosted by women: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/big-dick-energy Women are ALL about power, why do you think 50 Shades of Grey was so big and Feminists say sex is about power? And what is the context of your scenario? Seriously? Did you have a stroke? We're talking about the inverse of the scenario in the OP. The closest someone came to doing this to me- we were in separate rooms and I he was peeing wh…
/r/seduction14/04/20 04:27 PM
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Out of curiosity do you believe it is an intentional top down decision, or was it a case of a primed pump that existed and is now a run away train. Personally as much as I love reading conspiratorial theories I’m really not of the belief of a Bildeberg style group getting together to commit social control in this manner. Yes and no. I don't think the Idpol stuff necessarily was built from scratch by a top down conspiracy, so your pump priming point is accurate IMHO, but they fostered and directe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/20 03:35 PM
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How would you feel if a guy you had only made out with a couple of times whipped out his dick and started pissing in front of you while maintaining eye contact?
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:10 PM
12

Full bladder energy
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:09 PM
3

There's definitely a religious vibe to this. They're basically selling indulgences. Perfect comparison.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 07:10 PM
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I'm talking about the US where I live, because I thought that was the political climate we were discussing. It's a different situation in Canada. My experience is that liberal white people hate themselves too. Look at Race2Dinner. Rich people paying something to stoke their self-hate. It's almost fetishistic. Yeah probably to some extent. There is also a virtue signaling aspect about it as well and think that probably quite a few of those people are just closet racists who feel guilty and want t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 07:03 PM
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Society at large doesn't care, because they largely aren't all that aware of what is going on or don't think they can change anything, or even agree with it because it fits their biases. That or they're checked out politically or have become Republican. That is why the GOP is largely the part of white people with positive in group bias and the Democratic party largely only has white people who hate on right wing whites or poor/working poor whites who don't vote. Imagine the public funds and atte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 06:53 PM
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Why isn't that concerning to anyone else? Who said it's not? Partly though it's a function of them being a minority of white people and explicitly hating on the majority of the country for clout among themselves, the PMCs: https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/566846/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 06:25 PM
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I, like u/Dunkolunko think that the solution lies in moving away from group-based problems and more to wards a more encompassing class-based problem solving. That's not to say that group-based problems like sexism shouldn't be given attention of course. This would help pull people together and gather more support. Sure, but the media and ruling class explicitly do not want that, which is why left identity politics that cuts out class and economic issues except through the lens of identity politi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 06:23 PM
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Not sure 'leftism' actually has done that for decades, as left idpol was still there before, but there was a turn in 2011 with the media, because the ruling class got scared shitless about Occupy Wall Street and stepped up their efforts to shut down any sort of class or economically based organizing in favor of identity politics. So the Democratic party became a mirror image version of the GOP on identity issue and stopped focusing on economic messages to maintain the status quo, while in policy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 06:17 PM
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Do people agree with this? What can/should be done about the problem? Is it even a problem in the first place? At this point there is nothing to be done. The media and ruling class have decided on identity politics to cut off discussions of class/economic issue except in the frame of race and gender reductionism and it seems little can be done except talk about it online. The majority of the public, especially younger folks, have been brainwashed into it and we are seeing the results of it now a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 06:14 PM
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One small research study found in a controlled setting that when women were guaranteed of their safety, they initiated and accepted casual sex at an equal rate to the men. Can you post the link, because this goes against a lot of research into female sexuality. Sex-positive circles also tend to say that women and men are observed initiating and accepting sex at about equal rates. Which don't usually include the average woman, just those more sexually focused. Even then that doesn't really mesh w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 02:41 PM
2

Woman and men deserve equal amounts of respect. None until it's earned.
/r/seduction23/03/20 01:01 AM
1

I see you've never heard of Benjamin Disraeli.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/19 03:51 PM
19

its like sooo common for men to sponge financially off women Not compared to the inverse...
/r/seduction11/12/19 01:10 AM
11

Do you though? Giving a woman an ego boost isn't validating in an of itself to any but the most desperate guys.
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:34 PM
12

she wants yours. More often for validation and little if anything else.
/r/seduction26/11/19 12:40 PM
14

Game didn't exist then? Casanova was slaying it in the 1700s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giacomo_Casanova#Relationships
/r/seduction15/09/19 09:26 PM
7

Have you read "The Sorrows of Young Werther" by Goethe from the 1774? Same deal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorrows_of_Young_Werther
/r/seduction15/09/19 09:24 PM
10

Ugh, why bother.
/r/seduction13/09/19 10:15 PM
4

If you're good looking enough you will be to some extent, but that isn't game, that's just the male sex drive. Game is the interactions that go on after that. Just like how male game isn't 'hitting the gym and getting abs', having money, or having a pickup line, it's all the seductive interactions that go on after the initial opening.
/r/seduction30/04/19 01:31 PM
10

Agreed. Girl game is something quite a bit different than just looking good or putting out an OLD profile. It is something different than guy game, which should warrant it's own subreddit honestly; I don't think most guys really get the differences and how to play the game from the women's side of the equation.
/r/seduction30/04/19 01:04 PM
1

Confidence is what they are talking about of which abundance mentality contributes, but isn't the entire picture, nor can truly be faked.
/r/seduction30/04/19 01:01 PM
13

I'm just saying that if you're out trying to meet more women romantically, but are just facing rejection then that isn't going to build an abundance mentality, quite the opposite. The best option is to build a life that doesn't require a romantic interest to be happy, so even in the face of substantial rejection you can still have an abundance mentality, because your life is built on more than the approval of others.
/r/seduction29/04/19 06:34 PM
44

That only works if you're getting abundant return interest.
/r/seduction29/04/19 04:37 PM
1

I didn't make the distinction. He talks smack for marketing and promotion, win or lose. He probably gets a bigger thrill when he wins though.
/r/seduction16/10/18 07:51 PM
2

The reason is marketing. You don't get paid if you can't create drama to pull in the viewers.
/r/seduction16/10/18 06:16 PM
2

That book is so full of factual errors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_at_Dawn#Negative_critique https://quillette.com/2018/06/07/explaining-monogamy-vox/
/r/seduction12/09/18 12:04 AM
10

You don't. There is always the risk, you need to determine if it is worth losing the friendship over or at very least altering it permanently.
/r/seduction11/07/18 03:50 PM
2

Yeah it can help, but it doesn't work on everyone and will actively turn off some women.
/r/seduction20/03/18 09:11 PM
12

Of course it was published years ago, I don't see they having the guts to do this now.
/r/MensRights06/03/18 10:00 PM
3

It's fine for small talk in a professional setting, not so great for deeper convos, flirting, and more 'romantic' conversations due to the type of environment you're in (at least in my positions I couldn't get away with anything serious like that).
/r/seduction27/02/18 04:47 PM
5

Have done that and customer service, doesn't work as well as you'd think
/r/seduction27/02/18 04:03 PM
10

Improve your conversation skills Any tips on that?
/r/seduction27/02/18 03:42 PM
6

Yeah from what I've seen that is generally the case, women don't tend to go alone.
/r/seduction23/02/18 04:21 PM
11

Exactly, which is something that needs to be explicitly said online.
/r/seduction23/02/18 04:20 PM
18

Not exactly. They just don't like it when guys only go to dance class to hook up or get dates, not to actually dance and enjoy themselves. If dating or whatever happens organically in the process of enjoying the dancing together, then generally they don't mind, they just don't want guys coming to ask out all the women and use the situation to skeeve on them.
/r/seduction23/02/18 10:42 AM
99

Salsa/dance classes Got to be careful how you approach there, I've heard from a lot of women that they expect that single guys are there to hook up and they do not appreciate it.
/r/seduction23/02/18 10:24 AM
1

I recently been shocked at the men that I know that actually support #MeToo. The more I heard it I realize that it's just beta game. Not really, most people just want to have a social life and disagreeing with the hive mind will get you attacked and negatively impact your ability to function socially or even your employment. It's more a survival mechanism by both men and women, even though often both will express reservations privately with people they trust. https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/18 09:58 AM
5

Michael Ian Black was tweeting about how we need to redefine masculinity and deal with toxic masculinity to solve the school shooting problem.
/r/becomeaman17/02/18 03:03 AM
19

It doesn't just apply to female-on-male, but also female-on-female. Lesbian relationships are rife with physical abuse and authorities do little about it, nor is it a studied subject due to the perception of domestic violence being male perpetrated. So there is little support of victims of female violence, regardless of whether that victim is female or male. http://www.mmgconnect.com/projects/userfiles/file/dce-stop_now/ncadv_lgbt_fact_sheet.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in…
/r/MensRights12/10/17 12:20 PM
9

Based on the reporting I heard last night this is actually a money move by the Boy Scouts, as they've had declining membership for years and are becoming non-viable financially. So they are trying to find a way to get more members and by poaching girls from Girl Scouts they can dramatically expand their dues paying membership. The Girl Scouts org is NOT happy about this. In the end it is a money move pure and simple.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 12:16 PM
14

So it's more about it being a numbers game and always be closing.
/r/seduction06/10/17 05:28 PM
18

Depends on how you do it, you can be completely honest and get 100% no's.
/r/seduction06/10/17 04:39 PM
1

Got some quality dance skill advice?
/r/seduction20/07/17 05:39 PM
3

I get your point, just speaking for myself it's usually better to have multiple motivations rather than just one; like you say if you're just doing it for yourself, then you can easily quit for yourself or talk yourself into going easy on it, which is where other external motivations can kick in to the rescue. But conversely if you're just doing it for women, then if things aren't going well in dating despite getting fit, then you could lose motivation just the same because you're not getting th…
/r/seduction03/06/17 06:13 PM
63

There is nothing wrong with going to the gym to look better for the opposite sex, but if that is the only reason then you're likely to slack off and not keep with it.
/r/seduction03/06/17 05:41 PM
2

Audiobook.
/r/seduction23/03/17 03:33 PM
2

You need to study up on Lend-Lease and strategic air warfare to understand why the Soviets could even get in a position to roll back anything.
/r/askTRP27/10/16 10:35 PM
1

Of course appearance matters to both men and women more than anyone likes to let on. Women are just a lot more dishonest about their physical preferences in partners, but are willing to compromise on them more if the guy has a big personality that keeps them entertained.
/r/seduction31/07/16 02:52 PM
8

A 5 is average looks.
/r/seduction06/03/16 11:31 PM
31

By definition a 7 out of 10 is not average.
/r/seduction06/03/16 05:37 PM
1

It could be a heart issue affecting your circulation, depression, not enough sleep, diet, or even a back issue; tight lumbar spine muscles can affect nerves and blood flow.
/r/askTRP12/01/16 08:00 PM
5

Funny, I was reading something that attraction has to come before comfort to avoid the friendzone
/r/seduction02/01/16 03:32 PM
7

Are they really any different than men? Average people are just that, coasting through life not taking charge of themselves.
/r/askTRP30/10/15 07:20 PM
2

Look you feel how you feel, there isn't wrong or right to it. If that is something that makes you feel negatively then that is how you feel, you don't need others to validate your feelings. If you're not going to marry her you know she's Miss Right Now, not Miss Right, so enjoy the relationship for the temporary fun it is and just remember how you feel about where things are headed; let things take their course and get out and meet people.
/r/askTRP26/10/15 04:45 PM
2

They only do because guys actually do it.
/r/askTRP08/09/15 08:15 PM
1

Love and hate are a fine line. The more you invest emotions into someone the more it hurts when things don't work out so they lash out. As women tend to be more in tuned to their emotions and have less social stigma for lashing out against men they have little restriction on their emotional outbursts in reaction to emotional pain; add in the growing narcissism that affects western society (whole lot of reasons for that) resulting in less understanding of others and a much more fragile ego at rea…
/r/askTRP22/08/15 05:46 PM
6

Air B&B her pussy
/r/askTRP16/07/15 07:20 PM
0

Kill her and feed her body to pigs. Its the only sane solution /s
/r/askTRP16/07/15 07:04 PM
2

Hey what did Hitler ever do to you? /s
/r/seduction10/07/15 10:29 AM
4

Women don't want a man that will be a pushover and let them do anything they want; they want a guy that stands up for himself and recognizes when she's been too emotional and running wild; they had no respect for a man that cannot manage their emotions, insanity, and goofyness. A guy that looks to them to lead is not a man, they want a guy that they can look up to to lead them and for them to calibrate their behavior, emotions, and mindset on rather than having to be that for a guy. They don't w…
/r/askTRP06/07/15 01:13 PM
0

Yeah, I'm waking up to how dogmatic I am in all areas of life, which is so easy these days with the internet bubble to fall into. I guess its just part of growing up and realizing the world is far more complex and less easy to understand and you have to put aside simple answers and grow up to accept there is not just one way of looking at things.
/r/askTRP01/07/15 02:52 PM
6

RP is just a single worldview to understand the world and IMHO not the end all be all, nor does it have a monopoly on answers. I think its a useful antidote to the ridiculous feminist dominated world view of the modern era, but often goes too far in its points (or at least can). In terms of human experience its of course normal that sex falls off in a relationship, even in the most RP effective ones for all sorts of reasons besides the guy acting like a bitch; you need to figure out what is uniq…
/r/askTRP01/07/15 01:12 PM
10

She may just have a low sex drive naturally or she could have responsive sexuality meaning she needs you to initiate to become turned on. Or should could have other issues going on in her life driving down her sex drive like diet or depression or stress. Or perhaps she doesn't feel as connected to you emotionally and isn't will to try anymore; as some point learned helplessness becomes a factor if she feels you're out of her league and she needs you to chase her to make her feel desired; women u…
/r/askTRP01/07/15 12:24 PM
5

as long as she shares
/r/seduction09/06/15 06:54 PM
12

You've made me curious, I need anecdotes
/r/seduction09/06/15 06:05 PM
14

elaborate
/r/seduction09/06/15 05:41 PM
1

Time to go cave man style and invest in a club and cave.
/r/seduction08/06/15 07:31 PM
4

This is the core problem; when boys are raised by their mothers they take on that mode of interacting with women without seeing another way and fall into friend mode. Some guys can transcend it without a father around by either finding a strong male role model or just through luck by not falling into it, but I don't think most guys raised by single mothers can or do really and need to learn the hard way why they need to interact in a 'typical' male way.
/r/seduction24/05/15 08:25 PM
0

I don't know if I agree with all of this. Stand up for what you believe in sure, but don't be a dick about it and calibrate yourself socially.
/r/seduction20/04/15 05:07 PM
-1

Right, but if there isn't proof the child is his yet, how can she sue? On the potential that it is his?
/r/askTRP19/03/15 10:06 PM
-1

Of course, but limited rights compared to non-citizens; AFAIK they didn't have the right to bring paternity suits in US courts. Does anyone have reliable info on that?
/r/askTRP19/03/15 09:04 PM
0

As a noncitizen?
/r/askTRP19/03/15 06:48 PM
0

She cannot claim you are the father if she's not a citizen, you have to acknowledge that it is your child first; it was a law to protect me against getting trapped by foreign women. So don't legally acknowledge its your child. This applies in the US, not sure about Sweden; make her do the work to force paternity testing if it gets that far.
/r/askTRP19/03/15 03:38 PM
3

Clean up your diet, clean your face properly, moisturize properly, and get enough sleep. It also helps if you aren't going through puberty.
/r/askTRP20/02/15 06:52 PM
1

Can have.
/r/seduction23/01/15 06:31 PM
8

There's much more to sex than thrusting and even in thrusting there is a lot of variation. Thanks for proving my point.
/r/seduction23/01/15 06:03 PM
7

They want good sex. They don't just want any sex, as its harder for them to get off, so it can be frustrating to have sex and not get off. I've had women tell me that good sex an enslave them because its so hard to find.
/r/seduction23/01/15 05:06 PM
2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture Rape culture was a term coined to refer to specific subcultures that encouraged, enable, or tolerated rape. Some football teams, like the one in Steubenville, are examples of this. Now there has been some attempts to classify the entire US culture as a rape culture which is patently absurd, as it is one of the most reviled crimes in society and there are laws that severely punish it. They claim that because the rate of prosecution is relatively low and e…
/r/askTRP30/12/14 03:20 PM
1

Some old people; there are a lot of shitty ones too.
/r/MensRights23/12/14 02:29 PM
0

Facial piercings. Not a fan at all.
/r/seduction21/12/14 03:14 AM
6

What about ratings? People are watching it, if they weren't it would have been cancelled. Initially you might be right that it got a chance due to that criticism, but it apparently is able to stand on its own. But a counter point is that Sex and the City was pre-Entourage and Girls is just a millennial version of SatC.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 03:34 PM
10

I'm saying that having tens of millions of people in the middle class is better than 2.5 millionaires while the bottom 80% struggle. http://www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/review/sweden_beats_us_for_billionaires_fAE7b9UaytpNYpE3w3EElL
/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 03:00 AM
10

Yet Sweden per capita has more billionaires than the US. They also have a significantly larger middle class, which in the US has been hollowed out to created more millionaires at the expense of wiping out the middle class.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 11:04 PM
-5

Really? Wendy's Chili is just the expired hamburger meat, don't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 02:22 AM
9

Um, its historical consensus that Mary Todd got pregnant on purpose to trap Lincoln into marriage and Lincoln did not want to marry her. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Marriage_and_children In 1840, Lincoln became engaged to Mary Todd, who was from a wealthy slave-holding family in Lexington, Kentucky.[27] They met in Springfield, Illinois, in December 1839[28] and were engaged the following December.[29] A wedding set for January 1, 1841, was canceled when the two broke off their…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 01:23 PM
1

White is a vague term, distorted by bunk racial theories in which the Irish weren't considered 'white' at one point, but I think they mean European heritage Hispanic, meaning Spanish. The women you linked to is caucasian racially probably, as the definition of caucasian is very broad, including the Middle East and North Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
/r/TheRedPill15/11/14 05:31 PM
3

6% of the city. Most major US cities are only a minority white. The smaller cities, suburbs, and rural areas are where the majority of whites live. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami#Demographics White Hispanics are the majority of the population of Miami.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/14 04:40 PM
-11

Except its not: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=train
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 09:55 PM
18

Are there instances of children unprompted experimenting with their siblings?
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 08:04 PM
5

Why do people yearn for utopia, which by the way means no-place? Its pure Weltschmerz, the pain we feel for the world not being the ideal we want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltschmerz
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 03:42 PM
2

Then check out WW1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Battalion Called into action against the Germans during the Kerensky Offensive, they were assigned to the 525th Kiuruk-Darinski Regiment and occupied a trench near Smorgon. Ordered to go over the top, the soldiers of the war weary men's battalions hesitated. The women, however, decided to go with or without them. Eventually they pushed past three trenches into German territory, where soldiers discovered a stash of vodka, which the women…
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 04:46 PM
2

Read about the history of all female combat units in the USSR in WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_women_in_World_War_II
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 01:26 PM
7

Sure, but the current 'CEO' of Komen is the wife of a politically connected Texan donor; most charity 'CEO's' are really just friends/spouses/kids of rich people (usually men) that need a job to keep them occupied: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Brinker#Personal
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:54 PM
0

Got a source for that? I'd like to read more
/r/TheRedPill09/10/14 08:15 PM
13

If you actually study how their society worked, they actually have always had one of the most gender equal societies in the world; while the men were away a-viking the women ran the households and had full legal equality with men, being independent, able to own property, and marry and divorce as they pleased. Plus women were warriors in that culture too. http://www.viking.no/e/life/ewomen.htm
/r/TheRedPill09/10/14 02:26 PM
0

Saying to top 1/10th of 1% is not a catchy slogan; they were simplifying the message, though the reality is even worse.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 02:16 AM
1

More Dark Triad; besides the whole Alpha-Beta thing is about wolves, not humans and has even been discredited for them: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/07/07/the-myth-of-the-alpha-male/
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 07:30 PM
1

That's how badly we are all being screwed; all the complaints about gender by everyone is just a Red Herring to distract us from economic issues and how we are being exploited. I'm not a communist or libertarian, I'm not looking for radical solutions, how about just going back to 1960's economic policies when things were closer to the ideal in the video?
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 05:37 PM
3

That's a disguise for the intense wealth inequality; yes the top 20% actually have 93% of the wealth, because within the top 20% the top 1% have 40% of the national wealth, while the remaining 19% have the other 53%. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM The top 1% is grossly wealthy, but its not even all of the top 1%, rather than top 1/10th of 1% really.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 05:16 PM
3

They do fall within the top .1 or so of the 1%. The top 1% includes all the incomes starting at $380k and above. Within the top 1% are the ~480 US billionaires.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 05:03 PM
5

Considering the beginning of the bracket to be in the top 1% is $380k, its really not that high a bar. So it's not really the top 5-10% that benefit, rather a top fraction of the 1%. http://www.financialsamurai.com/how-much-money-do-the-top-income-earners-make-percent/ Based on the Internal Revenue Service’s 2010 database below, here’s how much the top Americans make: Top 1%: $380,354 Top 5%: $159,619 Top 10%: $113,799 Top 25%: $67,280 Top 50%: >$33,048
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 04:29 PM
23

Wasn't that a Groucho Marx quote? https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Groucho_Marx
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 06:10 PM
21

He's making an American Psycho reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkaoPO1G10Y
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 10:41 PM
3

And the world wars. The mass death of men and rise of female led households and workplaces resulted in a lot of female empowerment in western societies. The female rights movement was in place pre-WW1, but it was WW1 that got women the vote and WW2 that really locked in the feminist movement in western society, especially in Europe, as women were without men in the millions, so had to learn how to adapt and take care of themselves.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 10:43 PM
2

Sure, but its whats on the table. Really look at Japan as our future model or even Germany.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 10:35 PM
1

That's why elder care is a booming industry and retirement communities are expanding.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 10:25 PM
9

Sure, you can do that until your body falls apart, but it doesn't mean quality women will want to be married to you.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 10:11 PM
0

In terms of what they find acceptable in a mate, their value in their eyes is what matters. They won't settle for less and don't need to with their own income, so won't need a man the way they used to. Women don't feel the need to settle for less than what they expect and seem to be okay enough with being alone, so we have less marriage as a result. They can find guys to sleep with, but don't feel the need to settle down with those guys and deal with there issues. Its also a function of the incr…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 10:10 PM
6

Doesn't mean women want to marry those men; look at the Black community in the US, women are generally much better educated than the men who work blue collar jobs and those marriages don't last; women don't respect the men and the men don't like being emasculated by their women earning more than them. Sure those guys can theoretically end up having sex with better educated women, but it is pretty hard as they don't end up running in the same social circles, so where the quality women are there w…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 09:12 PM
50

Not at all, women have become picker now that they have better career prospects and no desire to go for lesser men, which are now the majority due to lesser male bachelor degree graduates relative to women. Women are competing for fewer better men as they raise their own value relative to the majority of men and won't settle for less.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 06:04 PM
2

Where did you get that she's German from?
/r/TheRedPill23/09/14 10:13 PM
3

Since when is Breitbart a reliable news source?
/r/MensRights18/09/14 12:41 PM
1

Eh, he was loud and obnoxious and kind of a bitch. He just had social proof from being funny and money which enabled him to get women. In his interview with Marc Maron Patrice demonstrated his inner core was not alpha. People often mistake domineering and loud as alpha, when often its really just insecurity trying to hide itself; Patrice was very insecure, he just had other traits that gave him success with women. Had he not been famous he wouldn't have gotten laid nearly as much; he even bragge…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/14 12:45 PM
-8

If those are the only books you've read
/r/TheRedPill06/09/14 07:50 PM
3

Good sex is hard to find for women, so having good sex is a goal in itself.
/r/askTRP26/08/14 08:30 PM
2

Bad back. I have to be careful
/r/askTRP18/08/14 01:54 PM
6

Certainly, but there is a wider set of issues going on involving lack of jobs and male educational attainment (more women get BAs). Men are falling off economically due to lack of support systems for them in education, but also loss of traditional male jobs in manufacturing and construction. Edit: The official figures though don't include male participation in 'off the books' work in various industries, both for illegal immigrants, but also citizens/residents that don't want to pay taxes. Plus t…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/14 04:50 PM
2

All is fair in love and war.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 12:09 PM
5

No the majority of our foreign aid goes to Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt etc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid most of that is military or development aid to support our foreign policy in those countries, not female rights.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/14 09:26 PM
2

U6 BoL stats have unemployment at over 12% right now, that's including everything conceivable about unemployment, not the usually reported U3 stat at 6.2% which includes only those fully unemployed actively looking for work. So over 12% of the workforce is under or unemployed and the economy hasn't fallen apart, in fact taxes are extremely low and corporations are dodging around $300 Billion in taxes, plus unknown numbers from the top .1% of earners stashing money abroad. Its going to take a lot…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/14 09:23 PM
-1

Bugsy Siegel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugsy_Siegel
/r/TheRedPill02/08/14 02:07 PM
9

Dark Triad people are pretty shitty human beings. Hitler was lusted after by women for all of his evil.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/14 02:03 PM
2

Congrats to you. Glad things are working out, do you have any specific tips from your experience?
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 01:33 PM
3

The question is what is large in the context of the study. Were they looking at flaccid or erect penises? Of course the appearance of a large penis is more appealing, which is why they predominate in porn, but the reality is appearance doesn't necessarily mean useful; there is too big and too small, but it depends on the woman. Some women need below average or average guys, because more hurts. Some women need big penises because of their lack of tightness. Just because you're average doesn't mea…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 07:36 PM
2

This seems a bit too spot on, basically fake.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 07:31 PM
7

Its based on a book called Traumnovelle from 1926: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Story
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:48 PM
2

Come on, STDs. Condoms still will be very useful, its only in the context of a relationship that male contraceptives other than condoms become less necessary.
/r/askTRP10/07/14 11:11 PM
6

Stay vigilant stay alive
/r/seduction02/07/14 12:39 AM
16

The worst thing they can do is mace or taze you and claim you assaulted them to LE.
/r/seduction01/07/14 11:21 PM
1

If you want a balanced budget revenue is part of the deal. Cutting taxes without an agreement to cut spending is irresponsible. Reaganomics was also called Voodoo economics by George Bush senior, so Socialism has nothing to do with it. I suggest you learn the meaning of the word before tossing it around.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 01:42 PM
2

He didn't do an effective job of keeping his caucus inline and did work with Reagan on a number of issues, hence Reaganomics got through.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 06:40 AM
0

Already gave it to you; tax cuts by the GOP trying to starve government of revenue to force them to cut social programs. The 1920s budget was mainly the VA that was created for the WW1 vets and cost more than the GOP wanted to pay for it.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 10:14 PM
4

No, that's what happened. Reagan cut taxes back to 1931 era levels and the deficit exploded; he had to raise taxes multiple times to recover the budget, but there still wasn't enough money coming in. The right wing rewrote history to paint him as a hero. They are trying to do that with W. Bush right now.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 10:13 PM
2

So you have a biased info graphic that has no other references to what was going on at the time and assumes correlation necessarily implies causation. This is one of the most common logical fallacies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 08:05 PM
1

Pre-Clinton the president had a lot of say in the agenda. Read the new book about the Tip O'Neil-Reagan relationship from Chris Matthews about how Reagan got his agenda pushed through. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_policy_of_the_Reagan_administration I'm not saying that Congress doesn't deserve part of the blame for what happened, but they were passing his agenda, rather than initiating it themselves. Part of the deal was though that given his landslide elections they were pretty scared…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 07:31 PM
2

Proof? There were the legacy costs of WW1 to deal with; in fact though we were very financially sound after the war, being the richest country on earth with no social programs like they had in Europe (though Britain was certainly not what it would be later on). In the 1980s we started spending ridiculous sums on the military thanks to Reagan cutting taxes and spending on the credit card; ironically both periods were with Republican presidents driving a tax cutting agenda that unbalanced the budg…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 06:19 PM
1

Came here to say that, well put.
/r/trpGAME26/06/14 06:08 PM
12

I'm only afraid to approach because I don't know what to say. Don't tell me it doesn't matter, it does.
/r/seduction22/06/14 02:21 PM
2

Most of these are just right wing hate points. When its cross posted to r/whiterights, I don't have much faith in it.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 12:19 PM
2

I hope she does and gets a new perspective. We only benefit by having a wider set of constructive perspectives shared between us.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 05:05 PM
10

Why is it a gender issue, not a class one?
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:18 PM
14

That, but also very poor nutrition is causing all sorts of issues, as is bad parenting and technology. Technology has helped destroy the brain's reward centers so people, not just children, are literally drug addicts to their brain's dopamine injects that they get from the internet, smart phones, and computers/gaming systems that has entertainment/emotional pleasure at the touch of a button; internet addiction is real, which is why people go through withdrawals at losing access and retreat facil…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/14 06:54 PM
3

Modern dietary research shows that much of the weight lost via calorie restriction will invariably be lean muscle mass, not fat. So you will lose weight, it will just leave you skinny fat. I posted the second link to show the other way forward, which is not calorie restriction at all, but eating lots of calorie inefficient foods to trick your body into burning fat by having to process lots of foods without much easily digested calories, while thinking its full, so not burning muscle mass to pres…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/14 01:36 PM
1

Doesn't work as easy as that. Biology isn't math. http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?65228-Why-dieting-doesn-t-work-the-WW2-starvation-study http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/
/r/TheRedPill11/06/14 12:31 PM
1

Not everyone likes the stretched feeling though.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 08:35 PM
1

Depends on the woman, not everyone can handle that length. Girth is more important up to a point.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 01:33 PM
4

There are enough stories on reddit about women noping out after seeing small penises or even very large ones. So its not a given she will fuck on seeing your dick.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 01:32 PM
4

Exactly, pornstars have to use numbing agents to loosen up to take the big dicks and not be screaming in pain. There are of course size queens that like to be stretched, cervix pounded, or just are looser, but they are a minority overall. Different women have different preferences in size, but the majority seem to think about 6.5-7 inches in length is perfect, but girth is important; I haven't gotten a good answer on the ideal there, but 6 inches around is above average and probably plenty for t…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 01:31 PM
9

Eh, not everyone wants marriage, even if they think they do. They might have imagined it because they were taught that was the goal in life, but never really wanted it; how many men get married because 'its the thing to do'; women too fall into that trap and realize they never really wanted it and were just doing what they were told by society/their families was the goal of life/relationships.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/14 04:26 PM
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Adam and Eve ate from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_the_knowledge_of_good_and_evil In Jewish tradition, the Tree of Knowledge and the eating of its fruit represents the beginning of the mixture of good and evil together. Before that time, the two were separate, and evil had only a nebulous existence in potentia. While free choice did exist before eating the fruit, evil existed as an entity separate from the human psyche, and it was not in human nat…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:27 PM
4

He was a Gefreiter, which was a private 1st class in WW1. So you totally not Hitler!
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 02:33 PM
3

How many men are really that much better? I've seen a ton of men that have a lot of feelings about something, but can't explain why they feel that way.
/r/askTRP01/06/14 12:07 AM
0

The Big Lie theory.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 01:44 AM
12

Tighten the labor pool with drive up wages. Incomes have been steadily falling since women entered the work force in numbers; removing some will help wages rise and remove people that really don't want to be there and affected operations. It also gives people a chance to take risks with starting their own businesses and agency over their lives.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 01:44 AM
1

Yeah probably professional porn, not real strippers. Dante talks about never using condoms, but that was in the 1980s and early 90s, so HIV wasn't as big a deal then. He even had a Canadian stripper on once talking about the scene up there, pretty much just echoing everything that Dante was talking about.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 07:37 PM
2

I bet higher than 30% at very least of women at bachelorette parties done something; listen to Dante Nero's podcast Beige Phillip for some awful stories of this happening, including him fucking 13 girls at one party and at another fucking the bride and mother in-law in a threesome in the bathroom and then getting invited to the wedding! Apparently he's fucked over 2500 women all before he was 32 stripping in NYC and had his stripper friends on who are all in the high hundreds/low middle thousand…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 07:28 PM
8

Rationalizing whatever happened as not cheating perhaps. I've had female friends outright rationalize their actions as either 'not counting'. Plus there are plenty of stories here about women rationalizing their cheating as being raped/molested because they 'totally wouldn't cheat'. Obviously there is such as things a sexual assault and date rape, but there is also rationalization, just like the CNN article in the last few months about the girl that claims her 3 year relationship to her ex-boyfr…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 02:42 PM
3

Note it says admitted to cheating. I don't think everyone is being honest about it.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 02:15 PM
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Can you provide sources on that? I've seen 50-50 or it being weighted toward women.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 02:14 PM
1

IIRC wasn't he bipolar?
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 12:45 PM
8

Brackish bitches concept. Some women thrive on the emotional abuse and drama because that is what they grew up on in their family life and don't know anything else. They aren't healthy emotionally, so cannot handle healthy emotional relationships and crave destructive ones because its what they understand. People aren't all necessarily healthy individuals and they gravitate toward certain types of people regardless of what is actually healthy for them. I'm definitely not advocating abusive behav…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 09:18 AM
9

So how do we increase free testosterone?
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 01:59 PM
2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect#Notable_conditions_and_diseases There are a lot of issues with older sperm, because cells age too; just because we as men don't start with all of our sperm, the production cells age and are affected by environmental issues too. Aged men semen has more problems associated with it than you allow for here.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 07:08 PM
3

Men's sperm ages too, so if both parents of over 35 the risk goes way up; just because a man can have kids beyond 45 doesn't mean his sperm quality is as good as it was at 35 or 25.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 03:54 PM
3

Whoa, when did I say what the Allies did was okay because the Germans were worse? You pulled that on me; I'm saying that both sides committed atrocities, but there wasn't moral equivalency. Suggesting that the Soviets failed to destroy a class of people when they had years to do so and no reason to stop is evidence that they weren't trying to do so; the Nazis were stopped as they were trying to finish their genocide. You also did not prove the Soviets tried to commit genocide, you cited a famine…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 08:20 PM
2

The Holodomor was not a genocide, but rather a famine created by the incompetence of the Soviet leadership and some malice to punish the 'kulaks'. At worst you could argue it was a democide, i.e. the destruction of a class of people. It was not even successful at destroying that class of people either. I'm challenging your notion that the Germans and Allies were morally equivalent; they weren't. The Axis (Germans and Japanese) were worse than the Allies, even the Soviets in terms of plans and bo…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 07:22 PM
2

The US wasn't mass murdering people in death camps in WW2, even the Soviet Gulags weren't anywhere as bad as Treblinka and Auschwitz. While I'll agree that the Soviets were worse than the West, they were also less bad than the Nazis; there was no Soviet General Plan Ost that anticipated the starvation and murder of 80 million people to clear out 'living space' for colonists. The Nazis (not the Germans as a whole) were trying to exterminate entire groups of people, while the Soviets, as bad as th…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 06:18 PM
1

There certainly was more and less bad in WW2.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 05:34 PM
12

I agree, but understand the context; there was the equivalent of a My Lei massacre every week of the war and even conscripts were heavily involved in murdering of civilians there: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/17/vietnam_was_even_more_horrific_than_we_thought/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_Crimes_Working_Group_Files http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/0805086919 The American people were more aware of what atrocities American forces were committing during the war…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 03:01 PM
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I understand your point about bomber crews, but AFAIK it was men that did the killing of downed pilots. I've read about German crews being beaten by crowds of men and of British and Americans being lynched by mobs, against mostly men, though older, during WW2. Also rounding up downed enemy aircrews is well worth it, preventing them from attacking your civilians, escaping back home, or sabotaging something. Again none of what you've posted proves that women are to blame in any way for this. I mea…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 02:56 PM
5

Women are generally speaking very blood thirsty when they face no personal risk. And they rarely respect their enemy. During WW2 is German or British bomber crews had to bailout, if the military did not get to the bomber crews first, usually women would beat them to death with shovels. During all wars, women would always encourage men to get war trophies, as in ears, skulls etc of the enemy. This occured even with the US against the Japs during WW2. Source on this? Anecdotes do not prove a wides…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 01:49 PM
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I disagree with the Vietnam part, because there were a lot of women protesting the war and the fact that their friends, brothers, uncles, etc. were being drafted to fight in a colonial war in Asia. I would also like to see how widespread this white feather movement was; I've heard about it before, but was given the impression it was a small group of women involved.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 01:16 PM
6

Compromise means you compromise your wishes for mine.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 11:27 PM
8

She goes from saying she wants equalness then talks about being the boss and him not liking that. Equality in a relationship is impossible, someone is more in charge than the other; she wanted to be in charge and called it 'being equal', he didn't want to be the submissive in the relationship, so it didn't work out. She blames it on him not liking 'equality' be the reality is she wanted to be in charge when it suited her and him to pick up the slack when she didn't want to make decisions; that's…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 10:32 PM
1

Has anything ever not been a racket in some way?
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 07:26 PM
1

Ah, thanks.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/14 03:40 PM
1

Alpha means pack leader, beta middle pack follower, Omega/Gamma bottom of the pack/scape goat. Lone wolf is something else entirely and can be good or bad. Being alpha though is all about being a leader, rather than pack-less.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/14 02:46 PM
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I'd like to see a deconstruction of positive and negative femininity in Time magazine.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/14 02:40 PM
1

So she is there for her money? Worked for Russel Brand.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 08:42 AM
6

Have you seen Katy Perry without makeup??? http://thecastingdock.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/katy-perry-without-makeup.jpg
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 08:01 AM
3

She is a paedophile.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/14 12:42 PM
5

The Indian situation and really any colonial one isn't so cut and dry as 20,000 controlling 300 million. The British made deals with local armies and rulers to support them over others, so in effect jumped in to local conflicts and used their support to win, so had the ruling done by their local allies; classic divide and conquer.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 11:11 AM
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Well, its a better social option than how they used to deal with it in Europe: Witch burnings http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal11.htm Anybody with a grudge or suspicion, very young children included, could accuse anyone of witchcraft and be listened to with attention; anyone who wanted someone else’s property or wife could accuse; any loner, any old person living alone, anyone with a misformity, physical or mental problem was likely to be accused. Open hunting season was …
/r/TheRedPill28/02/14 08:15 PM
3

That book as a lot of issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_at_Dawn#Reception_from_experts_in_the_field There are just too many extrapolations from too little evidence that the authors generalize about. Frankly there is no 'natural' per se when it comes to relationships; there are some tendencies, but much, perhaps most of sexual mores are societal, that is learned behavior. Plus some people have a different tendencies: there are asexual people, people that are hypersexual, people that are m…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/14 01:35 PM
1

Munich is a lot more expensive than Berlin, and somewhat less cosmopolitan. I never lived in Munich, so I can't say for sure. Yeah, it would be harder for Asian guys than females, it always is, but if you can dance and are brash, but not too brash, you can do fine anywhere.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 01:00 PM
2

Hitler was not elected, he was appointed by a Conservative government that didn't want another round of elections where the Socialists and Communist parties were about to wipe out the Conservative parties and Nazis. Hitler's appointment as Chancellor (in a parliamentary system there is not direct voting for candidates, only parties), was a hail mary attempt to maintain the collapsing Conservative power structure; of course Hitler wiped that away as soon as he could.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 01:00 PM
7

Lived in Berlin and Vienna and am of Scandinavian heritage; if you were a women, you'd get awesome play in those countries; being an asian male, you have tremendous roadblocks in your path. There are certainly women who will get with you, I knew an Austrian girl that would only fuck Asian guys because she though they were cute, but those are rare. Learn to dance and be brash, they won't be expecting it. You'll have a much better chance as a 'westernized' asian male, so approach with that out the…
/r/TheRedPill18/02/14 05:13 PM
5

The hereditary underclass cares. There is a reason you get revolutions like in Russia, France, Cuba, Vietnam, China, and so on. Hell, even the Nazis were a revolution against an entrenched system of inequality and privilege of the German ruling class. The New Deal was a Southern, economically liberal/social conservative movement to deal with US inequality that was unfairly baked in the cake, so that someone who was born poor almost always stayed poor.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/14 02:12 PM
1

Capabilities.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 10:56 PM
1

Being fit for office
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 10:22 PM
-3

Chemically and effectively there is no difference, but accusing a black man of using cracking as a slur against him is pretty much a dog whistle racial reference. Especially when he did no such thing. There are plenty of people with high achievements that have tried drugs and it didn't disqualify them, yet you used it as a slur against the man, though he doesn't use drugs any longer.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 09:19 PM
0

Source? He smoked cannabis and did use powdered cocaine, not different that George W. Bush and Clinton, though there is the potential that others did as well. Supposedly there are even writings from Jefferson that he smoked cannabis, so its likely that several presidents have. That's not even mentioning the crap that's gone on in Congress. Drug use in college isn't exactly disqualifying for office, especially considering the academic achievements of Obama after that. So let's keep the race baiti…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 08:59 PM
1

What's your definition of federalism?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 08:03 PM
1

A mixed economic system is the best way forward IMHO, as any 'pure' ideology, be it socialism, communism, libertarianism, or capitalism (among others) have inherent flaws. A market economic system has its value to society, but needs to be properly regulated and balanced by a federal government with a plan for the future of the nation, as it is the institution that should be making the investments in the nation to make it ready for the future (infrastructure, education, science, etc.) The problem…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:53 PM
5

This doesn't really debunk anything, he's leaving out the Bureau of Labor's report that does debunk it. He was also factually wrong about several things, including claiming that women outnumber men in grad school, law and medical school. He's right that women do not experience a pay gap, that's been debunked by several studies and the original study it was based on by the Census Bureau has been roundly and rightly criticized for its faulty methodology, but he doesn't mention any of that, only un…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:40 PM
3

What does 'liberal academic establishment' mean to you?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:34 PM
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State nullification is part of economic theory? Sounds more like social ideology, rather than economic theory.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:34 PM
2

Basically a libertarian in name only that wants to return to a confederate system of government predicated on states rights, but are very flexible on personal liberty, mainly being interested in how liberty affects them and their friends, rather than notions of how free markets can restrain personal liberty. Frankly its about their freedom to turn back the clock and rule as economic oligarchs over those economically weaker than themselves similar to what existed in the Confederacy during the US …
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:27 PM
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Sorry, Neo-confederates that plagiarize their books and speeches aren't going to be taken seriously by any serious person.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 04:46 PM
0

Career would be nice, but I don't speak Japanese. I studied German as a second language, so I can teach German to English speakers. I don't know what the situation is there for foreigners looking to teach subjects other than English in Japan long term.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 07:41 PM
1

Any ideas for jobs other than English teacher?
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 07:01 PM
2

I've never been to Japan, so I was curious about why there would be a 'western advantage' in one part of the country over another. Are there many english teacher opportunities in that area? Is Japanese fluency a necessity to meet women there?
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 06:29 PM
3

What's so special about Kagoshima?
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 06:00 PM
5

You do realize that women tend to exaggerate penis size by about 20%. There was a girl on r/sex who talked about wanting a 'coke can cock' as her ideal, stating that that was 6 inches in girth; someone measured it and a coke can is actually 8.5 inches. Women don't judge size well. Unless they are major size queens average is satisfying to most women and too much for some. http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/1vj666/i_dont_enjoy_small_or_average_sized_dicks_anymore/ This chart needs to be sources…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/14 08:35 PM
3

That's bit of a biased view of the man. He also wanted to turn the army on protestors for demanding political rights, which Kaiser Wilhelm stopped and was one of the main reasons Bismarck was let go. He suppressed the Catholics and tried to eliminate the church in Germany and oppressed minorities in Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck#Last_years
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 04:06 PM
-8

Right, just like how conservatism has collapsed under its own bullshit?
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 03:59 PM
1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy#Vasectomy_reversal Not sure if its not on the brochure, but the wikipedia entry is pretty thorough on the issues around it. Don't do it lightly, its pretty permanent; even if you get it reversed the sperm is damaged by it, so can produce damaged children as a result.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 03:17 AM
3

Vasectomy reversal success rates go down every year after you get the vasectomy. Within 5-10 years its pretty much irreverseable depending on the person.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 02:41 PM
5

They're only viable for about a year after freezing, so its not a panacea.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 02:40 PM
1

Goethe was notoriously good at bedding younger women, perhaps there are some German RP clues in his books?
/r/askTRP03/01/14 07:37 PM
13

??? He said she let him know that if he cheated, she would too; that's not letting other guys fuck her, its her telling him to stay loyal or else.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 02:33 PM
1

I actually know the guy that invented it, but like you said its not getting back your foreskin, just creating stretched skin.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 05:00 PM
10

Female circumcision is the removal of the clitoral hood, which is exactly the parallel of male circumcision, which is the removal of the foreskin. And seeing as the penis is a more developed clitoris, as men initially develop as women and only develop in men later in the womb (all men have vestigial vaginas for instance), the clitoris is the penis and the clitoral hood is literally the foreskin. That said female genital mutilation is the removal of the clitoris at a minimum or various other wors…
/r/MensRights03/01/13 11:42 PM
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Those studies have been serious called into question, so the jury is still out on that. If it were true, then yes, circumcision would be desirable for all men.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 11:35 PM
8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA
/r/MensRights03/01/13 10:21 PM
9

Me, I wish I weren't. It removes glands and hundreds of feet of nerve endings.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 09:47 PM
20

Is it really a valid medical procedure or unnecessary surgery? Its really the latter once you live in 1st world nation with proper sanitation.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 07:20 PM
7

You got girl booty called. She just wanted the emotional validation of being able to bring someone home and to cuddle her. That's all. She wasn't looking for sex, just emotional intimacy.
/r/seduction21/01/12 03:04 PM
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